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[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Ok a few things. For one, do you see a forum for Droid Razr Maxx HD?? No you do not. We have a forum for the droid razr HD and since the only differences are the battery, its better to keep everything together.

Why on earth would anyone buy a phone like the Droid Maxx which is only being released on one carrier, and after its been out for 3 days expect to have ROOT after all the trouble we had getting the razr maxx hd root? I HIGHLY doubt dan is going to come back and help with the droid maxx because he explicitly said he encouraged to take a locked bootloader into consideration when making a next cell phone purchase.

I agree with the people that want a phone with a large user base. More users=more bug reporting and more modification. If that is your most important issue then you may want to reconsider your phone model. I had a huge struggle going from the galaxy nexus to the droid razr maxx hd. I could hear crickets on here for cripes sake.

There is a system dump file of the droid ultra. I'm sure we will begin to see some things soon.

To the person that only got 21 hours of use, you totally should post some screen shots of your battery use. Thank you!
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
I was at about 35% battery after 15 hours yesterday..First full day with the device. I dont think 21 hours is completely unrealistic. I have a lot of time in poor reception areas.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
I got more than two full days, but I spend a lot of time in wifi
[Droid Ultra General] th3taman:
I feel about the same way. The phone looks nice, love the extra battery and bigger storage. Price kind of sucks. But I'm also wondering if I should go with the X? I too think it will get more dev support but then I also wonder why I would want dev support or at least AOSP support. I think it will kill the optimizations and tweaks giving my Moto. AOSP will never be able to handle and use the CPU cores in the same way.

Just not sure what I want to do....I flip flop between the Maxx and X like every 30 minutes.:silly::eek:
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
Too funny! I was flipping back and forth till I finally decided on this.

I feel the Moto X will make it through the day on the battery they've given it.

But it's not enough for me right now. Dev support or not. To have it customized would be cool for the first month or so.

But then again, that's not enough for me. Guess I'm getting old and kinda over the custom Rom things. This device has what I need. ;)

And, I have an upgrade in a year. So if Moto gets to make next gen Nexus, I'll get that when my upgrade is up.
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
Agreed. I am also over the whole custome ROM thing. It always breaks some core functionality. And the functionality it breaks seems to be more and more important as time goes on.

However, I am talking about upgrades coming from Motorola/Verizon. The larger user bases always get updates quicker.

There is so much to love about this Maxx. The screen is amazing. The battery is unreal. The software is so close to stock, but has a lot of added functional upgrades. I really do love the Maxx....except I guess that it feels a little big in my hand. But I'm sure I will get use to that.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
I've had my maxx hd since march. Its the first android phone I've been able to run on stock firmware. The only reason I rooted and unlocked was for trying to get webtop to work. My galaxy nexus was a neat phone in its prime but I became so obsessed with flashing what I thought was the latest and greatest. Don't get me wrong I think its hilarious how over a year after jelly beans release I have friends bragging about google now. I'm like uh yeah been there done that, had it for a year. But constantly tweaking my device and never feeling its 100% perfect is just annoying.

The only major complaint I have with my current phone is the ram. I shouldn't have to reboot my phone every day or two to keep things running smooth.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
MAXX.

4G for 90% of the night, spent all night on YouTube/forums/chrome. Any time screen was off, I had music playing though headset off of device memory.
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
15 hours seems like the bare minimum anyone would get...i think thats still a pretty good worst case scenario
[Droid Ultra General] 18t:
That's two days of on screen time for me. My gnex is usually 1.5-2.5 hours per day max
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
That's actually an insane amount of use. And to be able to get 15hrs. Dope.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
Yeah, I ball hard.
[Droid Ultra General] Stolly08:
Damn son! I want one! Love me Samsung and Motorola...! I wish good ole Sammy would come out with a phone with that large of battery!
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
Guess this will be the Maxx battery thread. :thumbup::D Tested calling today. Holds up like a champ.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Don't get me wrong, it's great battery life. But insane is a bit extreme. I get comparable life now on my MAXX hd.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
Coming from an HTC one, it's insane lol. I'd get 3.5hrs to 10% left on that thing with rom and kernel modifications.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Sorry for duplicate posts I don't know why it's posting that way.

The pics on this post were from a day and a half of moderate use. I was impressed so I wanted to see how much screen on time I could get and ended up at over 6 hours.

Totally not trying to have a size contest here lol..

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] add119:
Man this device is making me want to go crazy and now droid 5. Idk what phone to choose.

Cant wait for Moto X to be released!

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I love capacitive button the on screen take screen size away

Cant wait for Moto X to be released!
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
The moto x has on screen buttons though....
[Droid Ultra General] adrialk:
That's impressive, but the previous post was on LTE, not WiFi as yours.
[Droid Ultra General] AWD FTW:
Wrong places
[Droid Ultra General] pauliewalnutted:
Is the 6 months free of Google music all access supposed to be linked automatically? Mine isn't.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
That's an assumption. Just because you saw I was on wifi doesn't mean I was the whole time. I was on wifi only 50 percent of the time.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
Well judging by the pics it was majority of the time. One pic shows 3 hours of screen time on WiFi and the other is 6 hours and on WiFi. Looking at the times in the corner looks like more than 50%... But hey who cares your phone works for you. That's a good thing, no need to try to steal the new maxx joy...
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
The battery size of the MAXX hd is not even 300mah smaller than the MAXX.

The only reason I'm saying all this is I have been considering the Droid MAXX for weeks. You would think with the better processor it would handle battery consumption better. I mean technically Motorola says 36 hours of use vs 48. I guess in my head I figured we would get significantly more screen on time.

I mean come on this is the Droid RAZR hd forum and I want people to see what's relevant. There may be others straddling the fence like me.

I think it would be nice if the MAXX had smart actions to toggle 3g/4g. And also disconnect mobile data when on wifi.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] alee:
Every Android phone I've had (including the MAXX) does this already.
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
I thought this was the droid ultra/maxx forum... Maybe you are in the wrong place... Also RAZR maxx HD was a horrid phone.. This phone blows it out the water. Of course battery time will be pretty much the same as you stated the batteries are about the same size. This phone manages to stay awake ALL the time and still turn out great results. That there is your difference. And to be perfectly honest 6 hours of screen on time is heavy usage not general so this phone could possibly go for days.
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
So, I'm starting to fall in love with the maxx. The battery life has won me over.

The gorgeous screen too. For an amoled screen, the colors during video streaming are amazing.
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
This definitely doesn't need to turn into a thread full of bickering over devices.

There are only a few threads talking about the Maxx, and because I purchased one and am excited, I decided to post batt pics.

No two people are gonna get the same results. This issue has turned into a argument for 7+ years now. It really needs to stop.

If you aren't a Maxx owner, and creep through this thread, there's no need to rant and rave if you don't have one in hand.

It really isn't a "mine is bigger than yours" issue. :cowboy:
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Talk about misinterpretation... Anyway...

I spent almost 90 minutes at Verizon today playing with the MAXX. What a great phone. The build quality is really nice. Everything is rounded, less blunt edges.

Did a quadrant standard test it was over 9000! That's insane. The screen is definitely better in terms of size and brightness. It reminded me of my galaxy nexus display when adjusted correctly, but clearer. Typing on the keyboard was easier with my big hands. Love the capacitive buttons. Huge screen real estate compared to the MAXX hd. The flip gesture to launch camera was very responsive.

I was very disappointed that their demo software prevented me from experiencing active notifications. And I also couldn't set up touchless controls because it was too loud in the store.

I loved the new processor. I was able to seamlessly switch between Google maps, YouTube, and ingress without hesitation. No matter what I did there was always over one gig of ram available. I'm lucky if my MAXX hd has 300 mb. It's nice to see another Motorola phone that runs decent on stock firmware.

And I also found it intriguing that the majority of the Samsung phones had horrible screen burn in. The note 2 was the worst. Not even the non new Motorola models had burn in.

The store was mostly selling the mini and ultra. I found their sales pitch a bit cold and clinical stating the only differences of the new droids to be screen size and battery (pretty sure the mini only has 16gb). 3 women even said they would plug their phone in twice a day to avoid paying $300 lol.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
I just started my Google play music app and it told me I had 6 months free.
[Droid Ultra General] Stolly08:
Neither of my two Galaxy S3's or my Note 1 ever had any screen burn in.... And I have 3 friends with Note 2's and none of them have it either...

I'm liking the responses from everyone on the new Droid Maxx I've been tossing the idea around whether to put that on my second line or the new Nexus...
[Droid Ultra General] add119:
Why do samsung users act like apple? Putting their two cent on why ppl shouldnt get this phone. Smh ya sound like isheep fans and hater at same time.

Team DROID

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Anyone here that have droid ultra/maxx which device should i get droid ultra or moto x? Why or why not?

Team DROID
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
I have the maxx... Which is stellar I might add... Not one hiccup since I have had the phone. It is a beast of a phone and battery life is amazing. To be quite frank the ultra is ugly.. MotoX is sexy as all out doors.. But the MotoX is also being manufactured in the USA which may be why it has camera issues that the maxx doesn't. Not trying to be rude but as an American we don't have a eye for detail as other countries do. In my opinion you can't go wrong. They are very similar devices. Only difference is which design fits you...
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
The Moto X is having camera problems?
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
I have a Maxx. Was up and down on waiting for Moto X, or to go ahead and get the Maxx. Maxx won by size, battery and style. Although being able to customize the X would be cool, the coolness would wear off for me after the first month.

Maxx is worth every penny.
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
All over the forums and reviews. The reports are not so spectacular for the camera and photos are coming out with a purple tint where it should be blue. Check the moto x camera thread. My assumption and purely assumption is that the new lens are not being put in correctly.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
Well, the MAXX isn't that good in low light tbh. Plus the screen itself has a purple Tint in darker colors
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
My camera takes good pictures in low light. Not the best of the best but good none the less.. I don't have a purple tint to my phone. Not that I know of though.

The purple tint the motoX ppl were complaining about was in the actual photo. You could see it in the pics of the sky very prominently. To me a camera on a phone doesn't have to be great just need it for social media sharing.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
Ah, check out the tapatalk dark theme. It's purple, should be dark gray.

Also, low light shots

https://plus.google.com/104862895633418872032/posts/9M6cZnQ7k8G
[Droid Ultra General] Stolly08:
Why don't you reread what I wrote! I said I really like everything about the Droid Maxx and I'm really considering getting it on my second line.... Where did you get apple snobbyness?

Read before you post!!
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
I can't speak for the Moto x, but I'll give you my story.

I picked up the droid Max the day after launch. After one day I thought I would take it back for the Moto X. after five days, you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands.

It's simply the best phone I've ever owned, the battery life is incredible, the screen is absolutely amazing, all of the software features are nothing like I've ever used before. This is the first phone where I don't feel like I need to run a custom ROM. I would love to have root access but I will never run a custom ROM.

The number one best thing about this phone is the battery life. Running my golf gps app on any other phone will drain my battery to 20% but on this phone it's only down to 90%.

Everything else is the same as the Moto x.
[Droid Ultra General] chewybang:
Ditto to EVERYTHNG you said here.

I'm 99% happy with it. If we get root, I'm up to 100% It's not a deal breaker, though. This phone is a beast... and a good looking one at that.
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
Yep! Same here as well. Give me root for adaway and I'm satisfied for a very long time!
[Droid Ultra General] raichur0xx0rz:
Well, depends on what you want.

If you're comparing the Droid Ultra with the Moto X, you simply have to determine which build appeals to you. Do you prefer larger screens or smaller? Do you want a matte finish on the back or glossy? Do you value thinness?

And then if you are deciding between the Droid Maxx and Moto X, it's primarily a discussion of battery life and if you need one day or two.

I will eventually also pick up the Moto X in addition to my Maxx once Moto Maker opens up for Verizon. I will probably use the Maxx on trips, and just have the Moto X around for daily usage when I don't expect heavy use.

Unfortunately, there isn't an easy way to really compare the two until the Moto X actually hits stores and you can mess with them side by side.
[Droid Ultra General] lordbah:
Verizon removed anything?

Do we know yet what Verizon has tampered with on the Droid Maxx? What they've removed or disabled?
[Droid Ultra General] driggity:
Does anyone know if Foxfi or another method of non-root wireless tether works? I don't use wireless tethering a ton, but it definitely comes in handy when I'm traveling. Right now it's built into the ROM I use on my Galaxy Nexus, but I could live with using a 3rd party program until the Maxx is (hopefully) rooted.
[Droid Ultra General] alee:
Corporate mail (Email.apk, Exchange.apk) is not there - Motorola replaced it with MotoMail.apk which is fairly different. Lots of changes. Not happy about it - does not support serialized events, so if I read an email and then put it into a folder, the read status doesn't sync before the move to folder, leaving unread items in folders.

Calendar is tweaked but very gently (different icon that shows the date in the icon), and some minor stuff with regards to internal non-synced calendars. You can download the Google Calendar version from the store, but you still have to disable the Motorola Calendar.

Dialer is enhanced with some nicer tweaks but removes the SIP-based VoIP client.

SMS client, email and Gmail have some sort of enhancement on it (or could be OS-level) that shows badges on the icon for unread item counts.

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You will need root. I have a subscription to tethering and it works fine, but others are reporting 3rd party tethers are broken.
[Droid Ultra General] marky2mark:
LOL...this thread was moved from the RAZR/MAXX HD forum. So the previous poster was not in the "wrong place".

As far as the RAZR MAXX HD being a horrid phone, I couldn't disagree more. I've had mine since last October and it has been a great phone in all respects. Beautiful screen, great battery life, outstanding performance on all connections (call quality, wifi, Bluetooth, 4G etc). I read about some people having "lag" issues, I have had none. My phone is completely stock and there is no lag whatsoever. I also read lots of complaints about the camera, for my purposes it is more than adequate. On the few occasions I have used it, the picture quality has been very good.

If I were in the market for a new phone now, I would definitely go with the MAXX. In my opinion, the best android phone on the market right now. But its predecessor the RAZR MAXX HD was and is also a great phone.
[Droid Ultra General] Redwolf379:
I went with the Mini over the Maxx or Ultra and love it. Simply the best phone Ive had thus far, and Ive had quite a few. Even without Root, it rocks.
[Droid Ultra General] svzurich:
I asked the Verizon Wireless Sales person on their site about that, and was told that it IS Sim Locked. I further asked again at a corporate Verizon store (when I went to buy a Maxx) and my sales rep confirmed it was sold Sim Locked, even when bought outright (I ain't losing my unlimited data plan without a fight). He also winked and commented on how many places around Las Vegas claim they can unlock a sim slot. :) I mean to take it buy one of those very stores before my next trip overseas. :)

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So far FoxFi does not work on my Droid Maxx. :(
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
I could really use a non-root tether app. If anyone has a working app, please let us know!
[Droid Ultra General] driggity:
Well, that sucks. I guess I'll be holding on to my Galazy Nexus for a bit longer and see how things play out with the Maxx. The battery life is so tempting though.
[Droid Ultra General] EVOme:
I am in love with the Ultra. It's so thin and snappy. Like it better than my S4. I will drive this until the G2 arrives.
[Droid Ultra General] doogald:
I was told at a corp store when I bought it that it was not sim locked (though who knows if he knew what he was talking about?). However, an ultra use at androidcentral.com reports that an AT&T sim works fine, without error messages, etc.

See http://forums.androidcentral.com/motorola-droid-maxx/307673-new-droid-works-att-sim.html
[Droid Ultra General] craigbailey1986:
All of Verizon global phones are Sim unlocked.
[Droid Ultra General] svzurich:
Looks like I was lied to twice. :D Better for me.

http://support.verizonwireless.com/...esandRoaming/global_phone_roaming.html#item57
[Droid Ultra General] plmiller0905:
I had the Ultra and that was Sim unlocked out the box. I exchanged it for a Maxx yesterday and that too is Sim unlocked...just like with my my Ultra, I'm using my Maxx on ATT
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
You can use them on AT&T?

No 3g I take it?

Any other shortfalls to doing this?
[Droid Ultra General] plmiller0905:
I get HSPA / HSPA+ ... no LTE
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
I haven't confirmed if it works but easy tether pro always worked on my MAXX hd without rooting. Yes it's not a wifi hot-spot but bluetooth or usb cable works just fine. You could bridge the connection to a wireless adapter and share it with other devices / computers.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] mistermojorizin:
foxfi/pdanet also work for USB tethering. the trick was getting the motorola ADB interface to install correctly.
[Droid Ultra General] EyeCU:
Nice Phone

I bought the MAXX on the 23rd and love it. But as they didn't have any cases I wanted, I went back up to Verizon on the 29th to buy one hoping they had new stock. I was told that all stores in the area were sold out of MAXX phones and that they were going fast when they did have them.

Also bought a OtterBox Defender Case while I was there...

I wish someone would to a tear down of this phone and also a durability test. I really want to see how the new Gorilla Glass, and Kevlar back hold up. If anyone knows of any, PM me or past them here. I have been Googling every day in hopes of finding one, but no luck.

I rooted all of the phones I actually kept, and would like to root this one too. BUT just to use Titanium Backup, connect a PS3 contoller, or a few other simple things like that. I currently can't see any reason why I would replace this stock ROM. It hasn't been messed with at all!

My only concerns are

the non replaceable battery, (3500 mah battery made me feel OK about that, but want a tear down to know how to replace if it goes out)

no micro SD card slot. (I couldn't survive with a 16GB phone, but 32GB will be enough as long as I don't get to crazy with play movies saved locally)

MAXX is the best phone I have ever used, and minus the two items mentioned, has all of my requirements. (main items including 32GB (if no SD slot), 2.4ghz/5ghz wifi radio, and wireless charging). The other droids and X do not have all of those.
[Droid Ultra General] nnaatthhaannx2:
Hopefully the purple tint is a software issue and will be fixed quickly!
[Droid Ultra General] SDC_Bolts:
When in wifi 3g is still on, think it had to do with caller id app, anyway to remove that without root?
[Droid Ultra General] mbh87:
It isn't and won't be.
[Droid Ultra General] DJTrackula:
Droid Maxx overseas?

I know it's a Verizon only phone, but since it's global ready and 4g LTE, I hear that means it's unlocked from the box. China isn't 4g yet so I can deal with the 3g for now, but Motorola isn't sold here anymore as of a year ago! i'm still using the Droid Razr XT910 that I got in Hong Kong almost 2 years ago.

Is it true that I can use the Droid Maxx in China with a Chinese sim card? I'm buying it and shipping to China if so and I will be the only person in China with it.

Thanks dudes.
[Droid Ultra General] wolfgart:
i use it in Italy , and all works perfectly . No LTE (only on cdma networks) .
[Droid Ultra General] DJTrackula:
You bought it from America?
[Droid Ultra General] wolfgart:
Oh yeah

sent from my DROID MAXX
[Droid Ultra General] DJTrackula:
Thank Wolfgart.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Where's the damn *#*#4636#*#* menu on this thing?