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[Galaxy Note II General] WCF:
My personal reasons for upgrading from N2 -> N3:

- 16GB Internal Storage -> 32GB Internal Storage

- No LTE in my international N2. My area just got LTE several months ago.

- Bigger screen while simultaneously being smaller and lighter. Any weight loss makes a big difference for me; when I hold this phone, I tend to balance it on my pinky.

- Different color. The white plastic on my N2 has been turning yellow over time. It hurts resale value and I wouldn't pick a white phone again on the grounds of how blemished they get

- The usual spec enhancements: CPU, camera, RAM, etc.
[Galaxy Note II General] CLARiiON:
I think both are good. I am not a native English speaker myself.

BTW, while talking about upgrades, we do have to consider that with each iteration of device, the next upgrade will look even lesser. That's human nature.

It's similar to

law of diminishing marginal utility

. Economics grads will probably explain it much better. With each upgrade of the device, the marginal utility of upgrading to the next version will appear lesser.
[Galaxy Note II General] qazibasit:
Where is the joke no one is laughing guess ur not a note league...
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Weird how the battery life on my i9505 was shocking. Much, much worse than my note 2. I know the battery is smaller but I would have thought that the smaller screen and "more efficient" processor would have balanced that out to an extent.

Screen on time was half that of the Note 2. I'm not saying that test is wrong, just that real world use doesn't always match the results in lab conditions.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] Formhault:
Well, I just got myself a Galaxy S4 (I9505) and flashed MIUI (based on AOSP - 4.2.2) on it. Guess I'll see how good it performs :)
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a review in Russian with a lot of N3 pics, pics taken by the N3, and screen caps of the apps and UI.

http://translate.google.com/transla...u/review/misc/Samsung_GALAXY_Note_3-prev.html
[Galaxy Note II General] Crash:
Great post my friend

Hugs
[Galaxy Note II General] skyred5:
For me personally I would still do an upgrade but probably not as soon as the product launch. This has always been my pattern for any smartphone releases. Maybe a year or 1.5years after its release when everything is stable, more roms( i love to flash roms really!) then probably is the right time to get it. But of course, people will tell me by then the next product in line will be released!

Learnt from this "mistake" during the launch of ip4 and ip4s where u know they discovered the antenna problems and stuff? yeah...like the world test out the first batch of the phone first.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Nice article, thanks for sharing.

I am hanging with the Note 2 for a while longer, not because I think (like many others) that the Note 3 doesn't bring enough improvements.

I think it's indeed much improved, even in comparison with the S4, not to mention the Note2.

However, I am finding the initial price of the Note 3 , more abusive than ever, even for a state-of-the-art phone.

Combining that thought, with the fact that the Note 2 remains to be an amazing phone, I will wait actually for the launch of the Note 4 and then make a decision:

Buying a probably very expensive Note 4 (with probably flexible screen) or buying a probably much cheaper (around then) Note 3, and having used my excellent GNote2 for at least 2 years.

Having that said, all I have to do now, is resist the temptation and stick to the plan ...it's not going to be easy :laugh: :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Many GNote2 users who decided to stick with it, are ignoring much more than that my friend (for some reason or another).

Not me. I am appreciating every single improvement.

Just decided to wait a little longer till the (abusive) prices drop down considerably, even if it takes a year..

Till then, the excellent Note 2 will do just fine...

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[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
Abusive price? Whats the international price of note 3? $800 I guess

Sent from the New S Pen
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
I dont know about the dollars, but the price of Note 3 stated by Samsung for the 32GB version is 699€ (Euro) and Note 2 16GB also has 699€ as price from Samsung, but the first retailer where I saw the Note 2 live had it for 625€ at the beginning and at the end of october last year it dropped to 569€ which is quite a drop from the original 699€ as price stated by Samsung.

Since Note 3 has an even stronger Rivalry in the 5 inch and up class (S4, Note 2, Note 1, One Max [when it comes out], xPeria Z, Z Ultra, Z1, just to name the main ones) maybe the prices drop even faster...

also about the S-Pen, if you look clearly, it does NOT seem to be completely round...

pic of the russian review

http://hi-tech.imgsmail.ru/hitech_i...84x-/i/0a/61/a5394df908faec35c4db7b3d0503.jpg
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Here in Holland we need at least 2 months for prices to settle a little.

Pre-order prices right now are around 750 euros (980$ !):

http://www.gsminfo.nl/mobiele-telefoons/samsung/galaxy-note-3/prijzen-los-toestel

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[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
you sure that this is the 32GB version and not the 64?

this is even more than Samsungs Price tag, which I have never seen in any retailer before...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
The links are there for you to check.

Anyway sales always start with one model over here; and always the cheaper one...
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
I was on the link but there was nothing obvious stated and I cant understand that language...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Just checked, only the 32gb models can be pre-ordered right now.

My guess is that it could be little cheaper in Germany

But you should never pre order.

Just wait for sales to warm up and prices to settle...

It will be a while till prices get less abusive over here.

At least for the Dutch models.

Anyway, my preferred supplier (belsimpel) always get models from Polland or other eastern country.

The secret is not to be in a hurry

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[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
yes indeed...

also about German prices, pre-order for both the LTE and the 3G (Exynos) Variants are for 699€...
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Very well said. The N3 is a big improvement over the N2, far bigger than between the S3<>S4 in my opinion. But it's totally personal as to whether those improvements are worth moving from a N2 to N3. But saying the N3 isn't improved significantly, which quite a few people in this thread are, isn't realistic.

I think it depends where you live. In the U.S., off and on contract, the N3 is the same price as the N2 was at launch ($299 on contract, $699-750 off contract). The UK launch price of the 32GB N3 is about 85GBP more than the16GB N2 was when it launched. Taking in to account the difference in storage you could say it's about the same price. It's still very steep but that's what people said about the N2 when it was launched and it went on to sell 20M copies.

The radios in the SGS3, N2, and SGS4 support BT LE so now that 4.3 does too the same benefits the N3 will receive will also be received by those devices. So everything you said is true but it doesn't really make the N3 "better."

On that note (no pun intended), the N2 will probably receive a lot of new features from the N3/SGS4. If I had to bet I'd say the new version of S Note and a subset of multitasking improvements. I don't think it'll receive the new "action wheel" and all the new functions associated with it because it would most likely bog performance down significantly. I think for a lot of people the N2's 4.3/TW improvements will give them even more reason to stick with the N2 they already own.

Here's a great "official" YouTube video demonstrating the new S Pen features of the N3.

[YOUTUBE]-Fo5x7ZIPCM[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note II General] Tny35:
From Orange (Swiss carrier) is out at the price of 799 CHF, about 650 €..
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
oh nice already 49€ down.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tny35:
Yes, but in Swiss all the price are better than the other part of Europe.. Go to mediamarkt.ch and see! For sure in Italy the correct price is 729 €...
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
oh my god...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Hey people,

If you want to compare prices , don't base it on contracts and plans, cause they are misleading...

Look at the prices of the simlock free models.

And then you will know how much they stole from you, at the end of your contract :laugh:

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[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Hey, next time quote my whole post...it was not that big and it contains a solid plan :D

By the way, that video is already old news...

Just waiting on Erica Griffins video review ( I like her reviews....)

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[Galaxy Note II General] Tny35:
The price that i told tou is the price of Note 3 unlocked, without plans or contracts
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Do you have a link?

You want to tell me the Media Markt in Italy is already selling the sim lock free model?

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[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
I dont think so but most probably a pre-order price or alike...
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Done. ;)
[Galaxy Note II General] Tny35:
Here is the link of Note 3 from Orange Carrier, the price is Sim lock free

http://shop.orange.ch/en/galaxy-note-3/invt/10061403

I live near Swiss, and Mediamarkt is in Lugano, and yes, all the phone are simlock free! Here a link of Mediamarkt

http://shop.mediamarkt.ch/it/

I have a plan with orange, and every year give me a new phone, and for this year i take Note 3.. Arrive in 25 of sept :)
[Galaxy Note II General] kersey:
I too am going to wait for the prices to drop on the N3, can't really justify the £599.99 price tag that Expansys will be selling it for...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Firstly, on that Orange site it's not even possible to purchase it without a plan

And second, On that Media Markt link you posted, there is no GNote3 to be found ....

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[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
Here in my pakistan, the price of samsung was as follow:

S3 =$580

Note 2= $660

S4= $720

N3= not sure, based on price pattern for last 2 years, I guess it will be around $800 which is huge I guess.

Interesting thing is that s3 was released at lower prices in Asia, so expecting same for note 3. $800 is way above range for moat here.

Sent from the New S Pen
[Galaxy Note II General] Tny35:
No, only in the store you can buy it without a plan, not online, but i explain for compare the price!

And Mediamarkt for the low price of all the item......
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Can I ask a favor of those of you outside the U.S.? Can you let me know as you're searching for N3s if you come across a 3G or LTE Note 10.1 2014? I want that more than a N3. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
3G here you go:

http://www.belsimpel.nl/samsung/samsung-galaxy-note-10-1-3g-white/overzicht ( my favorite webshop btw )

http://www.phoneshop.nl/T11551/?ref...elijker&utm_content=Galaxy+Note+10.1+3G+N8000

Edit: didnt check if it's 2014

Edit2: The 2014 edition (3G/4G/LTE) , you cannot even pre-order around here yet, but it's just around the corner
[Galaxy Note II General] JCM800:
Knox and root.

Think I will wait until the Note 3 has been rooted before deciding. I've read that it may not even be possible due to Knox security?

If that is the case, I'll keep my N2 for sure, and go wherever Crisekelo goes I think :)
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
There are some obstacles to be confronted with , such as a locked bootloader and more....

Hopefully nothing that Chainfire, Criskelo and others can't handle :p;)

Anyway who's in a hurry? My GNote2 still rocks !

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[Galaxy Note II General] JCM800:
Thanks - I agree, the resale value on a Note 2 is poor, for a phone that still rocks.

I shall wait and see, don't deny the HD screen does appeal to me tho..
[Galaxy Note II General] turilo:
I'm a gadget freak so either way the note 3 will be in my hands :D hoping on a unlocked bootloader here in Canada, but who knows. I need that power house in my hands
[Galaxy Note II General] oalex:
You sir are correct. My bad!

Its a 4.3 thing not a GNote3 thing. Despite SGS3 and Note2 having BT 4.0. Only Android stacks were none functional (and google didnt care to fix it), now these are supposed to be fixed in Android 4.3.

http://www.android.com/whatsnew/

I just remembered NOTE2 not working with LE stuff and thought it was a hardware issue.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Oops.....

"Yes" voting is catching up earlier than I thought ....

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[Galaxy Note II General] artorelis:
32gb internal storage is a nice decision from Samsung. However, I'm a little bit disappointed about "only" 3200mah battery. I was expecting at least 3500mah battery.

---------- Post added at 05:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 05:10 AM ----------

Turn down this offer. Everyone who has Galaxy Note 2 likes bigger screen and s-pen. :)
[Galaxy Note II General] landeiro:
I bought S4,,,
[Galaxy Note II General] artorelis:
A mistake was made... ;)

You had to wait for Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
[Galaxy Note II General] vali_ics:
If I'll have money I'll change for sure my note 2.first of all I wanna leave that shiny plastic and all the sound from construction. The gorgeous screen.. I hope I can sell my note.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tubgirl:
Nice try to make this thread look more popular than it is. Before merging it had about 20 posts... what a failure.

Please take a hint and realize that we don't want to discuss Note3, Mega 6.3 and Xperia Ultra in the same thread... it takes the fun out of it and we don't want posts about the phone you want to compare with the Note2 to drown in several pages of Note3 posts.
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Please take a hint and head over to the Note 3 forums.

That way you can stop the whining.

Get over it or move on.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tubgirl:
Ok I will gladly move on... please enjoy your personal sticky thread apallohadass... you make almost 50% of the posts in it. (not counting the merged thread that in a couple of hours got more response than your personal sticky-thread gets in weeks).

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[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
I wasn't aware that there was a competition going on?

The survey thread was aptly timed for the release of the N3 and pretty much worthy all on it's own.

Since you seem to be stalking me, you probably noticed that I gave a thanks to several of the people posted there because they made worthwhile contributions to the thread.

Unlike you, who are posting just to whine, complain, and detract from anything remotely useful.

So, be useful, head off to the N3 forum (just created), or put me on ignore. I could care either way about your existence, that is unless you have something germane to say regarding the N2...
[Galaxy Note II General] Tubgirl:
To all the masses that are reading this thread...

The newly created Galaxy Note 3 forum can be found here --> http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2493

Brgds... /Tubgirl
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Finally! You did something productive in this thread. I even gave *you* a thanks :D
[Galaxy Note II General] WCF:
I actually agree with this. This thread is too messy, it's hard to get useful comparisons with so many different discussions going on.
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
indeed...

we were talking about its direct successor and not just a change to XZ or whatever...
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
When this thread was first created, the mods said that they would leave open all of the comparison threads prior to the creation date of this thread.

The ATT GN2 forum has a similar thread and it's done a great job of keeping down a flood of comparison overlap threads.

The mods did a crack down in this forum on a day when a dozen comparison threads suddenly nailed the first page of the forum.

One behind the other people create a brand new thread saying the same thing. It's not confusing to put it into one thread unless you're just really really easily confused.

Even now this thread is diverting because you guys are choosing to derail it.

The poll thread honestly had some merit on it's own, because it's the successor to the GN2 and because useful info was actually coming out of it. I'm guessing that if that was the ONLY GN3 thread rolling it would have been left alone. Instead there were 7 or 8 similar threads not including the thread where someone called the moderators 'D*cks' for daring to do their job.
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
ok that is bad but the most annoying thing is that sometimes the mods dont do their work, for example in the SF thread the have probably some questions asked over 50 times (I have to know, I created the FAQ for that reason and also I am the last pile of support while Legend is gone (at least it seems like that) and there could be easily 100-200 pages be cut down, but anyway I would have liked a chnage device thread (for Z/Ultra and all the whatnot) and an Upgrade Thread (to N3)...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Just to make clear to everyone, my thread/poll got almost 9000 views and almost 200 votes in only 3 days (way more that this much older one) and yet some moderator, arbitrarily closed it.

It's arbitrary because comparing the current phone with its successor is NEVER off-topic on any forum I ever took part in the last 4 years .

I complained about it and with good arguments to the Forum moderator and asked him to reopen my thread but all he did was merge it with this obscure one.

When a subject or a topic is being to much repeated in a Forum, a moderator should merge it if he will, with other ON-TOPIC threads and not close them and force users to use a messy/sticky off-topic one.

Having that said, ignore this thread, rate it 1 star as it deserves and move on to here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2438466
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Yes. Please move on. The thread is now your complaining ground for the last 3 pages.

The only people that think I created this thread for 'popularity' are you and a guy who's named himself after a picture of a girl shooting diarrhea into her own mouth.

I can assure you that popularity is the last thing I care about.
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
who and what the hell yo you mean?

anyway I dont think beto is complaining about the thread itself, but rather with the merging his topic which is in my oppinion NOT off-Topic with this general one...
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Tubgirl (named after an infamous pic of a woman in a bathtub shooting her own diarrhea into her mouth).

I thought Beto's poll thread was a good stand-alone thread, especially with the timing of the release of the GN3.
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
what is a "diarrhea" (first time reading that)

I think the same but the mods messed everything up and as I said at places that REALLY need work (like simplistic Framework thread) there is noting done, you know a mod I can ask for that???
[Galaxy Note II General] mr.r9:
That's when you have a leaking septic tank (poop) :)
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
ok really NOT beatiful, rather horrible or (what was that word with g?)

but anyway the fact that betoNL's thread was stand along was something I think many ppl in here think too and this is obviously a modfail...
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Holy sh*t the iPhone 5s looks like is gonna be blazing fast
[Galaxy Note II General] turilo:
Then go get that garbage
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Someone is butt hurt!
[Galaxy Note II General] Clark Joseph Kent:
I did put my hands on an iPhone 5, was almost impressed....just not a fan, that's all. Just never can go wrong with my Samsung devices....
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
I actually really like the iPhone 5, especially the speed of the browser, its insane. The 5S looks much faster with some extra goodies. Will definitely give it a try!
[Galaxy Note II General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thinking the Note 3 or trying the Mega.....;)
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Definitely Note 3!!!!
[Galaxy Note II General] Haplok:
Umm, yes, fast. And probably a great camera. So... what else is new?

Screen still tiny, as far as I can see.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Ios7, fingerprint sensor, Open GL ES 3.0, better battery life. Isn't that good on top of what you mentioned?
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
The first two are irrelevant, the third if you play alot of games sure, and the 4th is questionable.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
The first 2 are irrelevant to you vs the millions of people out there waiting for it. Just saying.
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
1) iOS is losing market share hand over fist. So yeah, another reiteration of the same thing is not only irrelevant, but losing more footing every time they don't do something new.

http://venturebeat.com/2013/09/09/analysts-ios-growth-lags-and-ipad-is-losing-market-share/

And on a global scale?

http://techcrunch.com/2013/08/07/an...s-as-ios-and-blackberry-share-slides-per-idc/

2) Fingerprint scanners are a gimmick and nothing more. Apple is pushing this 'security' feature and god only knows why. The Sheeple will suck up the idea of paying more for the fingerprint scanner than a less expensive software solution of ... wait for it... a lock screen.

Millions? LOL! Good joke!
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Then the 3 IOS users there are in the world i guess. Sheep this sheep that, what makes more sense honestly, face unlock or fingerprint scanner? But you're entitled to your opinion. I always welcome new tech especially when i find it useful. Never used face unlock ( in fact dont even use passcodes) but a simple thing as just using your fingerprint for security? Awesome in my opinion. Apple is losing market share? Ok....thats great. I just want the new iphone not to buy shares.
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Facelock is also a silly gimmick.

Apple had a hard time fulfilling the new shipment orders for this iPhone why? Supply for fingerprint scanners. There's just no demand for it until *they* created it.

There is a difference in welcoming new tech and paying for useless tech. Titanium latice work that can be used to replace bone? New tech and welcome. Aluminum bubble wrap that can be used in vehicles to improve impact absorption? Welcome.

Fingerprint scanner that's going to make my phone cost more? Not welcome.

Personally, I'm looking forward to 2014's phones. Providers are figuring out that we consumers aren't so stupid to fall for gimmick after gimmick. That's why they keep trying newer things. Hopefully, Facelock and fingerprint scanners will fade away quickly.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
To each his own. I honestly think that the fingerprint scanners makes a lot of sense. I dont like using passcodes to unlock my phone, its annoying. unlocking the phone by just pressing your thumb on the home button? Mad easy. Ill take it.
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
but also about the iPhone 5 there is the idiotic price. 5C should have a price OFF-Contract 599 Euro for 16GB and 699 für 32GB (everything but cheap, the 32 version costs the same as Note 3 and it's far less useful, also with the plastic they most probably DIDN'T introduce replacable batteries or extra storage) and the 5S will probably cost 100-150€ more...