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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
This is true. However, I would not recommend to skip it. Step one is carefully designed to automatically skip any part that is already up to date by comparing checksums. So if nothing needs to be updated, it will not needlessly flash the same data. Including step one ensures that your configuration matches the "official" Kinology image. That being said, it is separated so that you, the end user, have the maximum choice possible and the freedom to do what you like.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
Can some one post screen shots that work or a YouTube link I would like to see this in action. Please
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Ph0enix_216:
Third post of this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2163135

>>>Sent from my homebuilt TARDIS running Android 4.3... or maybe it's a rooted Kindle Fire HD running CyanogenMod 10.2<<<
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
the screenshots do not exist any more bad links
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psychoTR2:
I'm currently running CarbonROM. Do I need to go back to Stock 7.4.6 before I start Step 1?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
merseine.us was psych0phobia's, and went down permanently last month. I'll see if I can't resurrect some screenshots.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
As far as I know, you should not ever need to go back to stock. Kinology is literally built on top of stock and the step-by-step process installs the stock OS and then overlays the Kinology bits.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psychoTR2:
I see. Thanks a bunch! I'm going to flash this today, then!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] r3pwn:
Sorry to thread hijack, but may I ask what made you switch from Carbon?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psychoTR2:
Nothing in particular, except maybe for a few issues. I'm new to ROM flashing and am just trying to decide which ROM is best for me by trying all of the ones available on XDA. I tried CM11 Beta for a while, then Carbon, and now Kinology. Next on my list is CM10.2. I hope that's not something that would upset people; if it's a no-no, please let me know.

If I may be blunt: Carbon, so far,seems to be the fastest, while fixing a lot of issues from the CM11 Beta, but both Carbon and Kinology have issues that kinda break the deal for me.

Netflix refuses to work on Carbon and YouTube is sketchy, even after uninstalling/reinstalling and clearing the cache/dalvik. I'm sorry, I intended to post my issues in the Carbon thread today :(

Kinology looks great so far, except it cannot find my personal data (movies, pictures, music, etc.), even after re-flashing, which is a big deal for me. The MD5's matched, too so I dunno what's up, which I also meant to ask about.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] r3pwn:
No, its fine. I was just curious. Well, welcome, and if you have any questions on anything, feel free to ask someone. :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psychoTR2:
Thanks a lot!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
I can believe that your KK rom is fast,	r3pwn . I loaded 4.4 on my phone and it is noticeably faster. Unfortunately, I use Amazon Prime content so I need Kinology.

Having lived without Kinology (when my "update" went south) for about a month before I was able to recover properly, I really appreciate the perks or advantages that Kinology provides.

Rooted Stock Amazon rom was ok, but the custom rom options of Kinology like screen saver control (off for me), adding apps that the Amazon rom won't allow and many other customizations that operate better on Kinology than on Amazon's stock rom simply make this the rom that Amazon should have included in the KFTT when it sold it.

Of course, Google play media users have more flexibility and can enjoy the pure android experience like Carbon or CM roms, but for Amazon content users, I can't think of a better option!

Thanks again JulianPaoloThiry!

:)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
Can some one please put a video or screen shots the ones in the 3 post do not exist anymore there broken.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
It's been 24 hours since you last asked. I am but one cranky old man with a three week old newborn. I'll get to it as soon as I can. In the meantime, if you'd like to empower your imagination, it looks just like stock. Alternatively, it looks just like whatever launcher you choose to use...

Sorry for the semi-snark, but I've never really understood screenshots of ROMs.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I know I'm kind of the odd one in this opinion, but while it seems to ruffle a lot of feathers on XDA, I personally encourage this kind if comparison feedback. I think that knowing how end users compare one ROM to another helps the developers know what might be improved in their own work. At the very least it lets us know how a ROM is perceived in ways that don't always show up in the main threads.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psychoTR2:
I hear ya! I always want feedback on my stuff! I just don't want to ruffle feathers or have anyone think that I think their ROM is bad, because they're all amazing ROMs and they're all a big step up from stock.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
Sorry about that didn't mean to be pushy.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I've added a screenshots page to the Kinology website. They're a bit old, but they do highlight some of the differences between stock and Kinology.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
ok i see it now thank you!!!!

i have my kindle HD 7" running boot loader kfhd7-u-boot-prod-7.2.3.bin + TWRP 6.2.0.0 running on 7.4.3 os

and i have made a backup of my kindle i want to install kinology with out loosing my apps and data which setup should i use?

or do i just do the following "Will it Keep all my Apps and Data I am using Go launcher EX"

Download the "Step 1" files and put them on your Kindle.

Download "All-in-one" files, and put them on your Kindle.

Reboot into recovery.

Flash the "step1-boot" file first.

Reboot into recovery again if asked.

Flash the "All-in-one"

Reboot and enjoy!

Also just curious can you run live wall papers with this?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
If you want to keep all of your apps just do a Titanium Backup (TIBU) and restore of APPs with data (NO system files) after installing Kinology. To preserve the launcher as you currently have it, you would need the launcher to have a Backup-restore option.

For example, I use nova (on the phone) and it has a backup as well -so when I change roms, I first restore apps/data via TIBU, then restore nova setup via it's backup/restore function and my phone looks exactly as it did prior to changing roms. . .That is a fast way to rom hop (~40 minutes when it all is working). Also, I don't remember if GO has a backup/restore function, it's been a long while since I used it.

I have had best success using the file-by-file install of Kinology. I think some have used the composite file without issue, but the older approach seems best to me. Did not use live wall paper, so sorry, can't help on that one!

Good Luck!

I find the default launcher augmented by LMT works great for me in Kinology.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
ok but can i flash my existing twrp with this one through twrp? and what do you do to back up media like music and pic?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Sorry, not quite sure I understand. you can flash this using any version of twrp. So if you have twrp on your Kindle Fire HD 7" (KFTT) you are ok and can down load the files to your machine and flash them.

As to data, the quick answer i: it still should be there, but back it up just in case.

[I had backed up my SD card -the built in data on the Kindle Fire- and could move over any files if I did a total wipe. My data was still there after switching from CM back to Kinology. (However, after completely wiping my system and reinstalling Kinology3 again later, I did erase all my data, and had to download it back when I was done!).

However, if you are coming from another rom, say CM10 series, your data *should* still be there unless you chose the option to delete it. (Others please correct me if I am wrong!). The file structure will change -and a /0/directory may be there as a result of using cm (See Hashcode's thread on CM10 for explanation please), but your data will still be there under /media/data/"something" (documents/download/media etc. . .).

Good Luck!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
Sorry let me be more clear i have my kindle HD 7" running boot loader kfhd7-u-boot-prod-7.2.3.bin + TWRP 6.2.0.0 running on 7.4.3 os

can i install the new twrp 2.6.3.1 through my current TWRP 2.6.0.0.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Just follow the "first time install" instructions exactly (Skip item 6 since you don't want to wipe anything). That will take care of everything for you.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
it worked thank you only thing is some apps had to be re-installed no biggie.

thank you

---------- Post added at 03:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:38 PM ----------

i question is OTA update disabled in kinology?

also are these in the AIO file?

Step 2 - Stock(-ish) Amazon OS:

Step 3 - Amazon OS updates:

Step 4 - Kinology:

Step 5 - Google Apps:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Quoting the website Feature List section:

OTA updates disabled (based on prokennexusa's scripts)

Quoting the website Downloads section:

All-in-one (replaces steps 2 through 5)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
sorry and thank you
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
How do you get recent Windows to work?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Hold Home
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
Any one else getting gallery has stopped off and on?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
OK, after checking a couple of time over a couple of days, my gallery seems fine. No crashes.

Perhaps you restored the Gallery app from a backup by mistake? :confused:

Sorry I don't have any other explanation... working well here. . . (But I did NOT update the Step Three Amazon updates (I skipped that file when restoring since when I updated last November, I had all sorts of problems. . .not sure anyone else did, but Kinology3 without the Step 3 Amazon updates is still. . . perfect! ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
i used titanium to disable gallery and it still came up.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
OK, something else may be calling Gallery and could evoke the error message. So even if you have frozen Gallery in Tibu, the message could pop up!

1. You could use tibu and unfreeze Gallery, The go to settings applications installed apps/gallery and clear data on it -clear cache if you can and then go into recovery and clear dalvik cache. Then reboot. The apps will rebuild their dalvik cache files and after settling, see if you can use Gallery after that without error.

2. If that does not work, you could force it to stop using apps menu in settings and work around it, or you could even take a bit more extreme approach and "dirty" re-flash step5 of the Kinology install package. Sorry, if you already know all about this, but it means simply flash the install file #5 (Google Apps -which includes Gallery) on top of your existing installation. The point of this would be to overwrite the old Gallery app and its related files to erase a corrupted version or error. . .

Good Luck!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
i know where to clear it in TWRP but what is the dalvik cache and if i clear it will that screw up my apps?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
#1 Dalvik cache is a space used by Android apps in their operations. Please Google a technical description, but I also recommend that you read a bit on Dalvik cache, android os architecture and twrp, since this knowledge will guide your steps and decisions in rooting and using custom Roms.

#2 No, it won't ruin your set up, or installed apps at all. clearing your Dalvik cache could be done 100 times in a row without any negative effect!

It WILL slow the rebooting process the first time after cleaning Dalvik, since the android os will see that no apps are written to Dalvik, and it will have to write data for each app into the cache. .( you already see this each time you upgrade your phone or install a different rom and upon rebooting /first boot you get a message stating "android is updating" with a changing/increasing number count as each app has its data written. .

)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kgyuszko:
Hi All

Have been using Kinology since I beleive it was originally introduced, and never had a single issue (over a year now) its been perfect for my needs.

Yesterday it started something odd... It just cuts out as if no power?- when on mains power seems more stable and doesnt drop. Battery stats look good and system reports backs battery condition as 'good', but quite simply it resets back to the orange 'kindle logo, before blue kindle etc...when on own. Normally drops 1/2 way through boot sequence, but occasionally it loads complete, and drops as soon as an app is selected.

Any offers as to if this is software or hardware?- Have a horrible feeling its hardware, but was hoping someone might have a clue.

Worst case I can do a full factory reset, and completly start again, but would rather not!!

Any offers really appreciated.

kgyuszko
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] GateWayGee:
I've been having this issue on all the roms I choose. It works fine after flashing the rom but as soon as I start loading apps and selecting them, boom it shuts down and has a hard time loading if not plugged in to power source. Kind of odd. This shutdown/restart trigger seems to be any application i choose. Anyone else experiencing this?

Sent from my SCH-I605
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] wire55:
Go back to completely stock and give amazon a call, they might send a replacement device.

Sent from my KFHD running CM11
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kgyuszko:
Resolved! It was a faulty Kindle... i reset back to factory, removed root and 2nd bootloader, reloaded stock and still same problem!, Spoke to Amazon and they happily repaired unit- The battery had failed apparently..

kgyuszko
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Just curious is this going to be updated to 7.4.8? Or is the update so minor its not worth it?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
7.4.8 UNrooted me. I had not upgraded Kinology since I first installed it in June of last year. It was getting sluggish so I followed instructions to copy new files to Kindle, install package, reboot, and then install update (with backup). Things were proceeding famously until about 2 hours later the system rebooted without any interaction by me and installed 7.4.8.

In addition to having no Google Play functionality or root, I can't access Amazon Shop either.

Assuming I should 1) reroot, 2) go back to early Amazon stock, 3) flash latest Kinology all over??
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
I would re root and start all over and re flash kinology
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I just started investigating 7.4.8 last night. However, I no longer have a device that I can experiment with, so I'll need a bit of help from someone with some spare time on their hands. I'll post the details of what I'll need soon.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
wow. Have installed Android SDK but can not get it rooted with QemuRoot or even ADB to recognize the device.

Did the new .8 version block rooting? i had NO problem when I first bought the machine last summer..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
I had no issues re rooting I used the binary method on xda to root but I had issues with backing up 4.6.8. So I downgraded and went from there.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
I'm getting a new fastboot cable to see if that fixes it. thanks for the input. (BTW, what is "binary" method? )
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Its the method described here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
Thanks so much. Rooted again and starting over..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
I'll help as much as I can. I'm not a dev but can test.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Below, I've outlined what I need someone to do. Please read through the instructions and make sure you're comfortable with them before doing anything. I cannot be responsible for lost data, and, as with any flashing, there's always the risk that something goes sideways. Also, you might want to post a reply here so that several people don't waste time with it - we only need one. I will PM that person with an FTP location to upload the results.

Make a nandroid backup and make sure you have a copy of Kinology-step1-boot-7.4.6.zip. This is required in order to return to your current state, assuming you're running Kinology 3.2. Be absolutely sure your backup includes system and data!

Download Kinology-step1-boot-7.4.8.zip, Kinology-wipedata-nobackup.zip, Kinology-step2a-amazonos-7.4.8.zip, Kinology-step2b-amazonos-7.4.8.zip, and Kinology-step2c-amazonos-7.4.8.zip (5 files)

Flash the five files in order. This will install a clean, stock 7.4.8. When you reboot, TWRP should ask if it can root the device. Say yes.

When the setup screen eventually appears, don't touch it. Wait five minutes, then power off the device.

Turn on the device and go through the setup. Be sure to enable WiFi and register your device (i.e., log in to an Amazon account).

Launch all of the default apps to initialize them. In other words click each item in the "Shop Games Apps ..." menu, page through any setup junk, and then return to the home screen.

Let the device sit for a bit - let the screen turn off by itself rather than hitting the power button.

Wait five minutes, then power the device off and back on.

After the device boots, unlock the screen, then let the device sit for a bit again - let the screen turn off by itself rather than hitting the power button.

Leave it alone for a few hours. When I have done this in the past, I would generally let it sit overnight.

Use ADB or a root explorer to grab the contents of /data/app. This should be a set of .apk files that Amazon has pushed as updates to your device. These are the files I need.

To restore your device to how it was previously, first flash Kinology-step1-boot-7.4.6.zip, then restore your nandroid backup.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] RincewindUK:
Installed and it all worked first time.

So far so good. Love it :victory:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
No takers?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
I got ya covered. I'll download and install sometime today and get your files you need. Just been a little busy fixing my AOKP port. I'll send a dropbox link to you when I get the files pulled.

Sent from my AOKP Kindle Fire HD 7
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
On a 7.4.6 reinstall, SWIFTKEY no longer works. It stops during STEP 2 of the it's installation (the part where you select the ENGLISH US).

Does anyone else have this problem or does SWYPE or another keystroke helper work?

(I also will try to upgrade to 7.4.8 this weekend)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I know Swype works, as that's my go-to keyboard on all devices.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
There were only like 6 or 7 apps in that folder. Here's the dropbix link let me know when you download it https://www.dropbox.com/s/wffof9r6kgwesem/kindle apps.zip

Sent from my Kindle Fire HD running AOKP Jellybean
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
That's exactly what I need. Thanks! I have a copy saved now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
You welcome anytime
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Kinology 3.3 is now available at the official website, but be warned: it has not been tested. Be sure you have all of your data backed up before giving it a go. If I get some positive feedback, I'll update the thread title, etc. There were no surprises in the 7.4.8 update, so it's unlikely there are any problems, but you never know.

Edit - Don't use the Update-3.2-3.2 file... the updater-script is broken. I'll fix and repost shortly.

Edit - Fixed.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
Nice great thank you very much .:o :good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] fs1023:
Hi JulianPaoloThiry

Thanks for your great work with this ROM.

After I flash step 1 - 7.4.8 boot file do I then need to flash the 3 update files one after the other ? (already have 7.4.6 Kinology)

Regards

fs1023
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
There is only one update file per release that updates from one to the next. If you are on 3.2, apply the 3.2-3.3 update file.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Over 200 downloads and no complaints, so I'm going to call it official.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] starstremr:
so what are the benefits of upgrading to this version?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Did you read the history page? That's it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
Installed yesterday, no issues at all
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] P30SiNa:
I really like your work.

Thanks.

Keep it up!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] riker147:
Updated from 3.2 to 3.3 with no issues. Extremely easy. Thanks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] theroar:
Thanks for the update! I have been slacking, so I am only on 3.1. I would just like to clarify before I hit the button. The initial post page has me believing this...

I flash update 1, to get the 7.4.8 boot, reboot into recovery,

Then go 3.1-3.2

Then go 3.2 to 3.3.

My only bit of nervousness is whether the 3.2 will be fine on the new 7.4.8 boot.

Thanks again!

Mike
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] theroar:
re-read the first page.

3,2 is still 7.46, so I will complete that update first, then I will go to 7.4.8 and 3.3

---------- Post added at 01:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:31 PM ----------

Followed that order and it worked like a champ.

Thanks for the update!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] schlackxda:
7.4.8 Update amazon prime instnant video can be downloaded

Hello,

I bought a KFHD7 Tate with 32 GB in Germany for 130 EUR.

Firmware Version is 7.4.8

I have routet it.

Now I got an update so that it is possible to download amazon prime instant videos!!!

Could you include the update into Kinology so that it is possible to download videos?

If you need help I could support you

I have installed Kinology 3.3 on an other KFHD7 (16GB) which works great, but no downloading of amazon prime instnant video is possible.

Thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
Prime Music

Just amazing that the new upgrade for Prime Music automatically shows up.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Scottchy014:
Definitely agree! Pretty sweet app too!

Sent from my Nexus 7 2013 running AICP
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] wire55:
Well, I might switch over to kinology from cm11 but I would like some more feedback about the ROM and is it worth going from kk to ics?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] escrimps:
Still waiting on the upgrade. Not sure why I wouldn't have got it with the rest of the Kinology users :/
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
New Update ver 7.4.9

Kindle Fire HD 7" Software Updates Version 7.4.9 here

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_navbox_200529680_kindlelhd?nodeId=201016350

:highfive:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Would anyone with a stock/rooted kfhd7 be able to tell me how much free space is left on /system after a 7.4.9 install? I'm not sure if there's enough room to add the Kinology bits anymore...