yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
I don't use swiftkey but I do use Swype and it works great.

In the past, there were old instructions on how to load it, but they are out of date. Now it was simple!

With swype I just installed the program and started it and selected the Swype & Dragon Keyboard in Kinology's "Keyboards" menu. (it displayed as the first keyboard -out of alphebetical order!) Even the voice input on Swype /Dragon keyboard works!

So, perhaps installing Swiftkey and looking in keyboards for an added line for that keyboard.

Sorry, Can't help more :(

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Hi Julian (et al.)

There is some cross-talk on Prokennexusa's Kindle Fire First Aide tool about disabling OTA updates --his tool has an option for that.

I also read on the old thread (Julian) your post #544 (on the old thread) states that OTA is disabled. and	psych0phobia's post #497 in the old thread also reiterates:"//cut// The built-in OTA scripts are the same ones created by prokennexusa and the same ones present in KF First Aide. If you doubt this, take a look at the contents of /system/bin/ota-disable.sh and compare it to the commands issued by OPTION14.0 in RunMe.bat."

So, my question is does Kinology3 retain this no-OTA scripting (I am guessing yes. . . but!) and b) what exactly is stopped? Just Amazon's Rom Version upgrades? Some say everything else gets through (like whisper sync and other Amazon app upgrades? But I am a bit curious -for the opposite reason -I had disabled OTACERTS.zip in ssytem/apps/security, but I've been told that this works, but is overkill and hurts my KFTT updating other things. . .I have not seen any bad effect, but any technical knowledge, pointers (or even google search terms;)) that could explain it to me with a bit more detail would be appreciated!

Sorry to bother you. . .but it's an interesting aspect of our rom(s) and our machines!

Thanks in advance!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Swype > all others

Sent from my Android Kindle Fire HD 7 Running Cyanogenmod 10.1
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
Got it. It was at the top off the list for some reason. :/ Thanks for the help.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] itouchables:
I can confirm that swiftKey is working

sent fro my rooted kindle fire hd 7 with twerp and kinology rom installed
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] designforce:
Thank you for this hint.

by the way it looks like you / me must install a additional app called "no lock" but ok :)

I have made all you have wrote and this works fine until i switch off the Kindle Fire HD.. then it shows up the standard kindle locker for the first time... after unlocking this it works until switch off.

You have also a solution or a trick for this ?

Best Regards

dForce
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mr00oo00:
Thanks a lot Julian for the full informative guide.

I missed sending files to my KFHD7 prior TWRP.

I had to mount the USB from recovery and adb push all files with 100% success.

Now my KFHD7 is Running Kinology :thumbup:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kstephens98:
Also set the correct permissions for the apk. That's all I did.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] philhull:
I use SwiftKey. Go through the setup process in the SwiftKey settings and when it asks you to select SK as default it will show the list of languages for the Amazon keyboard. Scroll all the way to the top of that list and SwiftKey should be there. Select it and it will be the default.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
If you are using a third party lock screen, go to Settings, Security, Select Screen Lock, and choose None. That will disable the default Kindle lock screen.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] itouchables:
but just so you guys know, when the kindle is held in the landscaper orientation, the soft bar cuts part of the end keys...( but you can still press them)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
There was a work around for the screen cut off, but I don't recall where I saw it...perhaps in the original Kinology thread!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] designforce:
Yey thats it thank you :)

Gesendet von meinem KFTT mit Tapatalk 4
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] GreyGeist:
Launchers

Can I use Nova Launcher with this? What about CM10 's fixed trebuchet?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
Yes. Currently using Nova, and have had no issues.

Sent from my UnSensed TBolt using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] GreyGeist:
How does it perform? Is it sluggish like with the previous verison of Kinology (e.g. stuttering when flipping pages), or is it fairly fluid (especially compared to my current CM10.1).
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
It's very responsive. But keep in mind, my Kindle is for home use only, so I don't really stress test it thoughout the day. But when I do use it, there's no lag.

Sent from my UnSensed TBolt using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Agree with Irish! I use Nova on my phone and love it! I loaded it on my KFTT and use it whenever I get bored or tired of the default launcher.

Since I am a heavy Amazon user, the default launcher works well for me. However, whenever I do drop into Nova, it reacts quickly, does not lag and switches from landscape to portrait quickly and responsively!

Hope this helps!:laugh:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] damnd_boy:
fullscreen desktop mod

Hi guys great job with the ROM, I'm loving it. I want use it in fullscreen desktop mode even the apps is there any way to do that ? and also to use search bar with google now. Thanks in advance.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
If full screen mode you mean have the launcher like a typical tablet, then all you need do is get a launcher like nova or go or adw and the like.

As to using Google search, you can use it with Kinology31 no problem.

I have (mostly via advanced Google search)...

However, if I were you I'd search this thread and the old Kinology thread, because I vaguely recall some conflict with Amazon's unified search...

Perhaps others can comment more clearly on this..

Good luck
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mayers33:
don't know if it's a bug but i cant seem to deactivate notifications which is really anoying coz my kindle keeps beeping for a long time whenever it gets an email at work. (and yes, i've disabled sound for notifications in settings)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Try notifications off in the play store:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aboutmycode.NotificationsOff

it gives you a lot (sometimes too much ;) control of all notifications, including email.

BTW in the default email app I think you have to disable notifications for each email account individually. . Sometimes that slips by.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Hey guys just a quick question - I'm about to install this rom on a buddy's new kindle, and I was wondering if it supports the 1.5 or even 1.4 ghz overclock? Couldn't seem to find any posts on the subject

Thanks!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
No, I don't think that the kernel used supports overclocking. Anyway, I have not heard of anyone doing so. . .
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Well I'll give it a whack for hahas and report back after just to be sure so everyone knows, unless of course someone has actually tried. I wasn't sure if this rom even used stock kernel tbh
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Random Username:
I wish this ROM would use Hashcode's kernel, that one allows for overclocking (i think).
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
i think you dont understand. or no one understand this? Kinology is the stock amazon rom (forked android) and cm use other kernel. the stock os cant use that kernel, it wont happen.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Thanks I actually had no idea what kernel this rom used since I know it's evolved, changed hands, and I've never used it before. I figured at this point it used a unique one to help improve performance

So this is basically rooted Amazon with gapps, and a couple other features available from KFFA and the pimp my rom/ kindlefree apps?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I suggest reading the feature list on the website. It's nowhere near that simple. Several of the features are available nowhere else. That being said, it is "just" Amazon stock, improved.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
I actually tried downloaded and flashing a rom and one or two different kernel versions that were claimed to be used by some developers for alternative KFTT roms in Asia.

It did not work for me. I not only did not get their roms to run, but when I flashed their kernel(s) (two versions of the same kernel), it totally froze up my system and wouldn't boot at all.

I did recover. (I think I used my factory cable and restored stock then back to Kinology. . . but it was a while ago and not a happy experience.)

Also I vaguely remember some warnings here on XDA -maybe in Hashcode's thread or another about don't go near another kernel for KFTT without checking that it works. . .Sound advice anyway.

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Nothing "just" about it. . . except that Kinology is JUST the best rom for KFTT! :good::good::good:

:victory:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Firstly, I want thank you for the the ongoing the development of this rom. Secondly, I want to apologize if the questions I asked offended you, as I saw no reason for the condescension. The first thing I did was read the features. The second was read the forum. The third was read the original forum, and I couldn't find the answers I seek. The apps I mentioned, from what I can see, would amount to having this rom loaded, and I asked because it's going on a device I kindle for a friend, so it is important to me to set it up to the specifics my friend mentioned. I was hoping for user insights into the rom; why they use it over modified stock root with sidloaded google frame services and gapps for example. It seems to benchmark @ around stock Amazon from the antutu image a rom user posted, so if anyone has actual feedback of why they use this over than say, stock root with google play working and a third party launcher, that I guess is what I'm really looking to hear.

Thanks :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Didn't mean to sound condescending, just didn't want to trivialize the amount of work that has gone into Kinology. No offense meant whatsoever.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
All good man, I know a lot of people do have problems reading I blame them not you lol
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gflorezarroyo:
It's very nice to get when everything is done and say that Kinology is simply an improved stock Rom.

Some people do not understand the work that has been done to unlock all the potential without losing the benefits of still remaining a kindle. Almost all the tricks that now are at hand where hardly searched by a few pioneers, and some needed difficult processes to be made. JulianPaoloThiry has joined all of them in a solid Rom who does not know that it is not any more the trading Rom from Amazon.

JB blah, CM 10, blah, blah, etc.. There are individuals who believe that the best is always the newest, but ICS is not obsolete and, even my phone has Gingerbread and works perfectly.

I've already tested Hashcode's roms and they are great, but lack the personality and usability that gives Amazón OS. And there's always vital functions that are lost, while Kinology is now almost perfect for me.

What is better?, improving something good and tested, or go through the ordeal again of creating a promising system?

Who is buying the new version of Windows most recently published? The smart thing is to wait(as usual) as long as the possible failures are fixed. I don't like to suffer in vain. (I still have XP installed on most of my PCs.....)

In a few years, when the Kindle becomes obsolete it will be funny to stick in it the last android, but now is simply not useful or amusing, except for the developers challenge of achieveing it.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
:good::good::good:

+1 Agree! With Kinology we get the best of Kindle and changes or add-ons that make this just the right Rom for this tablet!

:fingers-crossed:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Thanks for the input guys! Def leaning towards this after reading your responses. My only initial concern was that there were glitches/unnecessary files, but from what I read before it's perfect for my friends needs (he basically wants cm10.1 with options to revert to stock, which is obviously impossible) so I figure I'll throw this rom on there, toss in nova launcher, and it'll be a win. One last question: does this rom retain the kindle favorites button? Because that's pretty key for quick swapping with that kind of set up

Cheers!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gflorezarroyo:
It is the magic of Kinology, you maintain all the good tricks of the Kindle(I remark ALL, including that favourites button), while removing all the Amazon's imposed protections, opening it to real ICS android with all google services and without barriers to install what you want. The machine itself doesn't know it has two merged personalities, but it is no more a cash register....

I reiterate that for me now, ICS is a more verified and stable version than any JB.

And another reason to prefer ICS is that Flash content(Youtube or embedded video) is incompatible with web browsers in JB and that takes away a lot of fun.....

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There is only one thing that I would like it to work as good as in Hashcode Roms, the ease of use of an external GPS bluetooth, because in the official Roms from 7.2.3 onwards(and Kinology) the installed manager programs hang by accessing "Mock locations".
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] galearned:
disable.sh scripts for OTA

There are at least two versions of disable.sh OTA scripts (some with 14 services being disables - all of them) and some scripts where just eight services are disabled - the True OTA services). renaming or removing OTACERTS.zip in system/etc/security is an overkill method and stops everything as far as I know. I have both a 14 services disable script and an 8 services disable script. The KFFA folks maintain that renaming OTACERTS.zip also uses more battery since the underlying services are still trying to work and keep looking for the OTACERTS.zip.

Remaning or removing OTACERTS.zip does do one good thing. It allows the user to download and update the Kindle OS from Amazon. If you run the disable scripts, kindle update is always grayed out whether you have the update on the sdcard or not. Renaming OTACERTS.zip stops OTA solidly but, if you manually place the kindle update on your SDcard, device/update will be bright and will update if you needed or wanted to.

Regards Jerry

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I have one question for JulianPaoloThiry :

The Kindle OS is very very large compared to CM10 (nearly 700MB versus 150MB)

The Kinology reading indicates that the Kindle OS service stuff (cashregister), etc. is missing from Kinology.

Is it really missing? Just asking because the Kinology OS is still very large compared to cm10?

Seems that if a lot of Kindle stuff is gone, the OS should be a lot smaller (It is a bit smaller than stock Kindle OS but, not much).

I don't have the knowledge to actually compare the performance of Kinology versus CM10 but, I do know that CM10 is very quick.

Regards
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Not quite sure what it is you think is missing. There are only four things deliberately removed: the ad service, two tutorials, and the market proxy. You should be able to do anything with Kinology that you can do with stock, except for OTA stuff.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] galearned:
Cyanogen versus Kinology

JulianPaoloThiry Thanks for the reply: Very much appreciated. Nice job BTW with the new Kinology version.....!!!!

I am not complaining that Kinology is missing stuff.

I am actually wanting as much of the Kindle OS removed as possible so that it is not 700MB.

I was thinking that if the Kinology OS is nearly as large as the Kindle OS that not much has been removed.

Your response confirms that essentially, the Kinology OS is the Kindle OS in size and functions.

I guess that one of my questions is - what is it that Kindle does that requires an OS four times the size of the CM10?

One of the other posts was asking how Kinology handles removing the OTA stuff?

There are 14 Kindle services that run all the time and 8 or so of these services deal specifically with getting updates to the tablet and executed.

Does Kinology disable only the 8 update services or more of them.

I will have to install the new Kinology to see how manual kindle updates are handled.

Understanding that automatic updates are stopped, if a manual Kindle update is downloaded to the tablet, will Kinology allow the user to use it to update the tablet? Now and then, a user might want to purposefully update the tablet especially if they were to sell the tablet or return to Amazon.

Although recovery can be used to change the OS, most if not all of the OS zips are all pre-rooted. If a regular Kindle update is used, the tablet is returned to stock with root, etc. all removed. I would be really nice if OTA could be stopped but, still allow the user to manually download and update the tablet...

Regards
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gflorezarroyo:
I did the mistake of mean that Kinolgy removes the Amazon cash-register. Sorry.

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An OTA over an unprotected kinologied Kindle returns it completely to stock safely as Kinology is shown as a "legal" Rom. An update also rewrites the bootloader.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mrkhigh:
<strike>Hi small issue,I did a dirty install from 7.2.1 with gapps already installed now everything is working great except google maps, I get the error when trying to install "incompatible with other applications using the same shared user Id" it doesn't matter if I drag it to system or try to install it with es file explorer the end result is a failed install. I'd really like to get this to work any suggestions?</strike>

Never mind,I figured it out

I went into packages.xml and edited out all google maps entries

Then performed a dalvic wipe.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rhplusa10:
Hello, I have a quick question.

There are a lot of talk about OTA, but I still don't get it.

I have used Kinology 2.0.1 so far, which is the best rom ever for KHD7.

2.0.1 has disabled the OTA by default.

How about 3.1?

is default disabled? or should I do something to do?

Thank you in advance.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] axelroll:
I have a 7.4.6 Kindle fire HD, I`ve already rooted it, but that`s it, what should I do yo install this???

I want to follow this guide but it says that is for 7.4.3 can i follow it anyway????

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] linh03:
Yes!

but You use Restore KFHD7 7.4.3 back ROM 7.4.3 are 100% successful

Step 1

Restore 7.4.3

1. Check conected ADB (ADB)

2. Fastboot (ADB)

3. Check conected fastboot

4. Flash stock boot 7.4.3

5. Flash stock recovery 7.4.3

6. Flash stock system 7.4.3

7. Delete data and cache

8. Reboot now.

Done

Step 2

Custom Bootloader 2.6.0.0:

Goodluck.

PS: Tool Restore KFHD7 7.4.3 use language Vietnam
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] axelroll:
Thanks, and when do i have to use it? Right now im in step 1 of this guide: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2271909
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] linh03:
Step 1: Restore 7.4.3 (rooted) = Step 1: Rooting + Step 2: Grabbing Files and Backing Up

Step 2: Custom Bootloader 2.6.0.0: = Step 3: Installation

:)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
As mentioned in the feature list, OTA is disabled. The feature list even includes a direct link to the exact script being used, so I'm really not sure where all this discussion is coming from....
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Sorry, it's not about Kinology. Or, it's not about any PROBLEMS with Kinology, but on the Kindle First Aide app thread there has been discussion about ota and how to ensure we block it in the best way...so folks who (like me...us) use and love Kinology, have drifted into your thread with the same questions....you've answered these in the past already, but I think that was on the old thread, might be on the early pages here too...

Thanks again for the perfect kindle fire hd Rom...
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] cybertlc:
I'm noticing graphical glitches while using the Chrome browser. Anyone else?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kgyuszko:
Has anyone managed to get sky go working yet? Didn't know if this new version of kinology resolved the issue?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
I don't normally use Chrome. I reloaded it and played on it for an hour. It worked well, except that it does not do flash, at least for me. I do have flash on Boat and Dolphin, but not Chrome. Other than that youtube worked, images worked screens displayed well and the websites were clear. Maybe clear your app cache or data for chrome and try it again. If that does not work, you can reinstall it. If THAT does not work, then possibly go to recovery, fix permissions, and (maybe) clear dalvik and or cache.

One of those steps has gotta work :)

Good Luck

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Sorry, don't know Sky Go :( is it a game? a productivity app?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mmesh:
KFHD 8.9"

Hi JulianPaoloThiry,

Can this ROM also be flashed to KFHD 8.9"?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gflorezarroyo:
GPS again

Hi Julian:

Let me insist you on to fix this great ROM so it can work with real BT GPS.

Lately I've flashed CM 9.1.0 Alpha 9 on a HTC Wildfire S, and now it has ICS 4.0.4, a similar Android version than Kindle HD 7's ICS. I'm a lego on Android OS or programming it, but since I own my Kindle I've tried every hack GPS related to make work my external BT antenna on it .

But now I've found that it isn't necessary to "fiddle" with "Mock Locations" to make it work, as the non-castrated Android ICS allows the BT data input legally. See the two captures from the Phone. Look at the two extra options: "GPS satellites" and "GPS source", and how you can then select any paired device....although it would be or not a GPS antenna...

Can you open those options in Kindle settings as you did with TTS?

Don't worry about the necessary GPS antenna for testing, any Android phone with internal GPS receiver can do if you install a free app like "GPS over BT" (Vasily Saenko) or "Bluetooth GPS Output" (Meowsbox) , but there are more...

Or I can test directly....
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] eridroid:
Thanks for the great rom julian! i have one issue to.report that sometimes tue sounds will be gone till.you restart the specific apps that need to play music or make sounds.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rightjb:
Fire 7 HDX ?

Curious if you plan on supporting the new Kindle Fire 7 HDX? I literally would not buy/use my Fire HD without this ROM and unless they open the architecture to Google Play - likely wouldn't on the HDX..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Random Username:
It just has been announced and you already ask for a custom ROM?

Anyway, you can download apks from GPlay and install it even if you don't have the Play Store installed. Just saying :)