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[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
The hardware buttons don't bother me actually. With a 5" screen not being intruded by a nav bar, it will feel a lot bigger.

Very curious to test the performance of the new q8 processing. 8 cores dedicated to specific things. I'm sure it's fast.

Funny story I received an email from Verizon corporate regarding the new droid lineup and figured I'd call around to some stores. They were all confused thinking I was asking to test a Droid razr maxx, and that they had all been taken down last year upon release of the droid razr hd and maxx. I had to repeat my story five times until I blatantly said "sometimes you guys get new phones a few weeks before they are released, do you have a new droid ultra test unit available?!"

They all had no clue of what model I was even referring to. I'm sorry but if I worked at verizon I would know about what's coming out. It's not like I was asking about the iPhone 6 release date, sheesh

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] 0815 1234:
The Droid Maxx looks quite nice and would suffice for me.

As I live in Europe I hope it will get released here (hope it will be?!) quite soon.

The Maxx seems to fullfill all my needs:

big battery

5" 720p - I'm not so much into 1080p(performance & battery drain)

decent enough hardware

optimized for long battery life

camera will be okay enough for my needs

price below 300€

:good:

Finally I think I will get rid of my galaxy s plus :fingers-crossed:
[Droid Ultra General] tech_head:
I'm skipping the Razr Ultra/Maxx lineup.

Not enough of an upgrade from the HD.

Marginal improvements and nothing great. At least not for my "full retail" dollar.

I'm looking at the HTC One or something else later.
[Droid Ultra General] mgerbasio:
Same here. I like the wireless charger, had it with a D3, and the extra battery life is always welcome, but for me there isn't enough reason to spend $700. If I were buying a new phone on contract, yea, I'd get it.

I'm waiting to see if this is the same as the X phone and if that turns out to be half the price as rumored. Motorola cutting an exclusive deal with Verizon seems to throw the whole "Don't be evil" thing out the window. My Xoom LTE still hasn't been updated and that's a Nexus device!
[Droid Ultra General] tech_head:
The problem, I see is that the X might not be coming to Verizon.

It may be on all *OTHER* carriers as not to compete on the same network. IIf the X is $300, I may for it. Then again if we get the HTC One on Verizon, I'll just keep checking Swappa and see what comes up.

Seems like to get the build quality I want, I have to give up on the SD slot.
[Droid Ultra General] gusbeto37:
Initially I got excited about the DROID MAXX, but then some specs came out saying that none of the new DROIDs have microSD card slots. That is a big feature for me. I am a music-phile and I currently use up most of my 64GB SDcard on my RAZR HD.

Hopefully the Moto X does have an SD Card. otherwise I will think about eventually upgrading to something not Motorola.
[Droid Ultra General] mentose457:
I won't ever downgrade to a phone that doesn't have an SD card slot or softkeys. Unless that phone has 64+ gigs of internal memory.
[Droid Ultra General] kendive:
Same here... Gotta have an SD Card Slot and softkeys built in.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
What do you have saved on your phone that can't be accessed from the cloud? Even downloading entire seasons of TV shows I'd have a hard time filling up my phone now with stock memory.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] mentose457:
It's not what but when those things can be accessed from the cloud that is the problem. The majority of my free time is spent in areas with little to no service. My work also puts me in areas with little to no service. Plus, If one does not have unlimited data then its not practical to stream music and videos when you are on the go.
[Droid Ultra General] animez:
Even if we had a connection all the time and unlimited data, streaming (especially 4G) eats battery like crazy. There's the cost as well, you either have to buy the media from the cloud provider or pay for the space. For movies and music you already own a cheap SD card (and a slot to put it in) is a much better solution. HTC has abandoned the SD and Moto seems to be headed that way. Looks like my next phone might be a plastic a$$ Samsung.
[Droid Ultra General] orcsbane13:
If it's any consolation the galaxy s5 is rumored to not be made of plastic. :-/ I hate the way these companies are going. I love my SD card slot. I was sold on a droid maxx until they said no SD card slot.
[Droid Ultra General] skeevydude:
As an Atrix HD owner with the advertised "Unlimited" 2GB AT&T Data Plan....streaming isn't even an option. Tried that once, could only stream 4 hours of video before hitting an overage charge.

How the hell can they legally be allowed to say "Unlimited Data" in big words across the screen then put 2GB in the fine print??? I guess it sounds better than "Unlimited Access to our Networks with Fees incured after the 1st 2GB then a $10 raping every 1GB after that...."

//Yes, a full 4.7GB Linux Live DVD costs an AT&T user $20 with about 300mb left before another overage charge....
[Droid Ultra General] TacticalDesire:
Unless many new phones come out with SD Card slots I'd imagine many are going to be sticking with their current phones for longer. And to be honest, there isn't much of a reason to upgrade anyway. On the bright side, HTC has the Butterfly S they just released.

2gb RAM,

5 inch 1080p screen,

1.9Ghz Snapdragon 600

Android 4.2.2

And.......SD Card Slot.
[Droid Ultra General] hollovoid:
If I HAVE to replace my Maxx HD id get the maxx. Locked bootloader sucks, no SDcard sucks, but damnit, I can not go near a phone that has battery life of most of todays phones. After suffering through the Galaxy nexus's absolutely retarded battery its just not gonna happen. I used to keep 3 EXTENDED batteries with me on that thing, now I dont even have to worry about it.
[Droid Ultra General] spencer88:
I'm right there with you. I too came from the galaxy nexus. I broke down and picked up a Razr Maxx HD back in March or April for full retail and haven't regretted it at all.

With light usage on the stock ROM I could go three and a half days on a single charge.

I'm currently on CM 10.1 and I have 50 % battery left on 31 hours with 3.5 hours of on-screen time.

Just can't beat it.
[Droid Ultra General] curly9:
I did see on a picture of a verizon moto x let me se if I can find it

Edit http://mobile.pcmag.com/#!/article/51ffee5393e8e475011be4bb-motorola-moto-x-verizon-wireless
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
I'm confused about pricing of the X.

Previously all I had read was $300 full retail. Now all I see is, $199 on contract or free if you're referred to try the designing tool.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] wolfgart:
guys , Sorry i'm confused about official specs of New Droid MAXX .

I would buy this phone as soon available in USA but i live in Italy and reading the official specs network i don't have understood if this phone is usable with LTE (GSM) on 1800 MHZ frequency

"NETWORKS 4

WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1800/1900, LTE Band 04/13, HSDPA 42.2 Mbps (Category 14), HSUPA 5.76 Mbps, CDMA EV-DO Release A, GPRS Class 12"

which are the real LTE specs ? We'll have LTE on GSM network with this phone , or only on damn CDMA ?
[Droid Ultra General] tech_head:
I'm going for the LG G2 as my next phone.

I have a Razr HD, but I keep a phone 6 moths to a year.

By the time the G2 comes out I'll be almost at the end of my year.
[Droid Ultra General] freebird_78:
Most places I've seen say that the Ultra/Maxx won't have the X's dual LTE antenna. My workplace is in the middle of nowhere and simply depending on where I set my phone on my desk, my MHD will either have 40% or 70% by the end of the day. So to me, anything that increases reception in very weak areas is a BIG deal. Do you all agree that the Ultra/Maxx won't have the dual antennas? If they don't, do you think the X's dual antennas will make a meaningful difference in my situation?
[Droid Ultra General] Insano Kyller:
this would be the X?
[Droid Ultra General] raichur0xx0rz:
From what I've seen on GSM Arena's database, it looks like the LTE Bands are 700 / 1700 / 2100.

The low-cost unlocked price was simply a rumor. Everyone assumed that since the Nexus 4 was cheap off contract, that the Moto X would be also. It's looking like around $600 for 16GB off-contract. It's $199 on-contract for 16GB, and $249 for 32GB on-contract.

Also, it isn't "free" with referrals - since the Designing Tool is only for people who have ordered a Moto X from ATT, it seems as if no one else will be able to mess around with it. Thus, you can get a referral to play around with the Tool without actually ordering the device.
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
I'm looking into the Droid Maxx.

Like the size, look, battery, wireless charging and touchless feature.
[Droid Ultra General] open1your1eyes0:
New DROIDs get rid of microSD slot and even more locked down bootloader. I went and bought a DROID Razr HD just to own one after seeing the new series and realizing microSD slots aren't coming back and bootloader will likely not be unlocked so easily ever again.
[Droid Ultra General] willzzz88:
I don't care about locked bootloader so much as I need the US domestic SIM card functionality unlocked. That would be grand /w the extra battery life. APN should be unlocked also. I hope there is a XDA forum for this phone series. I was waiting for this. Unfortunately NO SD slot, not a big deal.
[Droid Ultra General] wolfgart:
Best design , which has better ?
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
I can't believe there aren't more videos about the maxx and ultra. Aside from the ones from weeks ago, few have been added today. I was hoping to see a more in depth tour of the phone without going to verizon.

I think I am hesitant to upgrade because I like this phone so much (despite the lapdock issue). And the note 3 with 3 gigs of ram coming out looks promising.

Is it just me or are the new releases not much better than what I already have?

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] smooth781:
Got mine

I love this new Maxx phone. I wish there was a forum for it, So we can get it rooted soon.
[Droid Ultra General] :
If only that is how it worked. Phone forum = rooted phone. The now Droid phones aren't targeted at the phone geeks. You know, the guys that root phones. I wonder if there will be a root method for them.
[Droid Ultra General] The Unnamed Time Lord:
I am actually looking for a System Dump/build.prop of an Ultra/Maxx.

Is there any way of obtaining one yet or has the bootloader become that much harder to get passed?
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
I'm loving my Maxx so far. Motorola makes quality devices, that's all there is to it.

Hope this new line gets more attention then it is now.
[Droid Ultra General] :
You might get cast-offs from the moto x when it comes out on big red. The x will get a bunch more attention as it is on all of the major us carriers.
[Droid Ultra General] raichur0xx0rz:
Do we know if the new Droid Ultra/Maxx are SIM Unlocked like the DNA and other VZW LTE devices? I would assume so...
[Droid Ultra General] marky2mark:
The only thing the new Droids and Moto X have that might make me want to upgrade is Miracast support. It is basically the equivalent of Apple Airplay. Still in the early stages but it looks pretty cool. For example you can stream concerts from Concert Vault on the phone and wirelessly mirror it to the TV with HDMI picture and sound quality.

I am hoping if RMHD gets 4.3, miracast support might be included. From what I have read, it has all the necessary hardware, only requires the necessary software. But I could be wrong.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
Picked up the maxx the other day, my first motorola phone. I am incredibly impressed, it is probably one of the best phones I have owned. I am very worried that they won't be able to unlock the bootloader.
[Droid Ultra General] alee:
Indifferent about the locked bootloader, but I really want root so that I can get rid of the non-AOSP email client.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
Got the MAXX

I rooted all my previous phones - started with the OG Droid, but this phone I might just go without rooting - everything on it is stock android - Moto put 0 skin. As far as the bloat - when in the app drawer, press and hold on a bloat app icon - pretend to drop it onto the desktop but instead drop the icon all the way on top where it says "App Info" - Force Stop then Freeze! Done. Dont even have to go through all apps guessing which ones to freeze. I know it's not entirely the same as completely removing them form the System\App, but close enough for me! THE only need I still have for rooting is to install Cerberus as a system app but it is running as a regular app and hidden from the app drawer - this will suffice. Other than that - this phone can be gotten to pure Nexus experience pretty closely and very easily without rooting! I'm a happy camper, so far.

So, I think locked bootloader is a moot issue if not for all but might be for many.

I also dont get why some cry for soft-buttons - the capacitive dont take any real estate and besides re-mapping or adding more to the nav bar - I just dont see any need. The legacy menu function is re mappable on the MAXX in settings.

The only valid, at least in my book, complain about this phone is lack of the SD slot - but in all reality I think that option is a dying breed.

I'm coming from HTC DNA to MAXX and absolutely love the display.

This phone is a winner for me all around. Love it
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
Great point. I went through apps as well in settings and disable, force stopped and uninstalled updates to all the unused apps. Now they aren't in the app drawer and not running. The more I use this, the less I want it rooted. Fact is, this device is smooth, fast and has everything I need, minus a good theme. But I can cope with that.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
What about the fact that Android comes out with newer OS and you are stuck on an older one because VZW doesn't provide an OTA update? Being able to flash newer OS's is really nice.

Also, I like a battery percent instead of the bar in the notification tray... I can add one to the left side, but it takes up more space.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
All valid points, no doubt about it. The reality is that each of us values different options differently. I would love to get the circle battery mod, but for just that - I will not root my phone. For someone else, the mod might be so important that it alone will be worth rooting. As far as the new OS goes, unless there are groundbreaking features introduced in the next update - this current version of Android is very capable and fits me - ymmv.

All I'm saying, this is very very nice phone right out of the box and being stocked and locked is not as burdensome as any Sammy or HTC phone
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
This is basically on par with what many new RAZR MAXX hd owners said in the beginning.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
I am just a flash addict.... That being said, while I love this phone, it may not be for me.
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
Do they feel differently now?

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I'm surprised how few of these phones seem to be selling.

I LOVE my new Maxx, but I might return it simply because there are so few users. My last phone was an HTC Rezound..and being on a phone with a small user-group is not something I want to experience for another two years.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
I completely agree with you...just not sure what to go to that is compatible.
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
So few users? For crying out loud the phone came out on a Tuesday for $300 on contract which was literally two days ago.
[Droid Ultra General] darksizzle:
I got the Droid Mini this morning. It's exactly what I've been waiting for. Awesome screen, grear battery life, and specs that aren't crap. The guy at the Verizon store took about 15 minutes in the back to find one. They were in an unopened box in the back. Can't wait to see root for it the bloatware is horrendous.
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
You can freeze all the boat via app info I believe. I did.
[Droid Ultra General] 18t:
Probably gonna wait. Doesn't seem like maxx is getting a lot of love. I'm hoping any exploits for x also work for maxx
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
Explain. I'd love to hear your logic
[Droid Ultra General] midarnel1:
I'm getting the issue as well
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
I completely agree. People need to give it some time. It is on the pricey end. Shoot, I paid full retail. So far, worth every penny. :)
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
They have the same chip set and 99% the same soft/firmware. Any root for the (Verizon) version at least should work on all the new DROIDs.

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I did too. I can't wait for root for three specific things.

Wireless tether

NFC support while screen off, for unlocking with NFC ring/tag

Google wallet

Then the secondary reasons

Changing the toggle layout and hoping to implement some sort of toggle pull down using the right side of the screen.
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
I was referring to the first part of your statement.

All I'm looking for with root is TiBu and adaway. Adaway mainly though.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
Ah, I misread your comment. And though I replied to your post, I didn't make first comment anyways, lol.

Well, here's to hoping Dan Rosenberg roots this for us. I know he said he was done with Motorola, but he said the same thing after rooting the D4, then a few months later he ended up breaking the encrypted boot loader so we will see.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
It has wireless tether already, I just turned mine on to try it. Am I missing something?

The toggle layout is a big thing for me, I want it to edit mine badly.
[Droid Ultra General] Casen:
I still have unlimited, therefore I can't get it for free.
[Droid Ultra General] ashmerae:
Maxx!!

I purchased the Maxx yesterday and love it (minus the inability to find root... or any other help at the moment, sigh...).

There were a couple things that made me go this route:

1) Battery - I'm at 10% after 21 hours of use. I get emails pushed to me, texts, check social media, make a few phone calls, go online, etc. with my phone and this is absolutely amazing to me. Especially when the phone is still able to be slim!

2) 32GB - I just couldn't do a 16GB phone... not anymore anyway.

3) Wireless charging (meh, not so much, but it was something to consider). VerizonWireless.com says the Ultra doesn't support this feature, but the store rep said it did... regardless, the Maxx has it for sure.

4) I just like the actual look and feel of the device. While the Ultra was nice, it seemed "cheap" in comparison to the Maxx.

But battery life really was the deal breaker. Now if we could only get to the rooting...

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Agree with you on the rooting... hopefully we'll see some dedicated threads on here soon. I saw there was one on here where we can request a thread to be made.

I find it a little strange that the Ultra has one, but the Maxx doesn't... seems like it would cause more confusion because it looks like people are posting about the Maxx under the Ultra thread.

I WANT MY WIRELESS TETHERING BACK!!! :crying:

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Do you subscribe to Verizon's mobile hotspot?

Wish there was a way to bypass Verizon's subscription check.
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
You can tell on launch day whether a phone is a hit or a miss. The Maxx is a miss. Look at the threads on XDA..there are like four. Also, I purchased mine from a very busy corporate store the day after launch and was told I was the first to buy any of the three (Mini, Ultra, or Maxx).

I agree that this phone is awesome. I absolutely love it. However, I only have 14 days to return the device on Verizon. So unless we start seeing some Maxx love, I'll be returning.
[Droid Ultra General] dspcap:
I am with you on this, thinking of the HTC One. I was reading the forums and VZW got HTC to pull down the code to unlock the bootloader last night. What are you thinking of getting?
[Droid Ultra General] robstunner:
Enjoy the HTC One for Verizon for a month, before the HTC One+ comes out next month for GSM. Any kind of sales for either phone right now is speculation. However, HTC's history is to bring an inbetween phone before the next be ticket item. (HTC One X / One X+)
[Droid Ultra General] Piaband:
I LOOOOOVVVEEE the HTC One. I am coming from an HTC device and I really like the newer sense skins. But (a big but), I almost dont trust HTC to follow through with updates. They totally screwed over the Rezound users and their company is falling on hard times. And I really like all of the Motorola software features...active display, touchless controls, etc.

I will either get the Moto X or the HTC One.

The Moto X has the same features as the Maxx, but its getting a lot more marketing push and its on all the carriers....So there will be more users. I just wish Verizon had the Moto-maker customization. Yet again, Verizon sucks. They contantly have the least impressive phone selection. I've been with them for two years and I have used an upgrade once (I bought my Rezound on Ebay and brought it with when I signed up). For two years, they have had a phone worth me buying. Verizon sucks.
[Droid Ultra General] ashmerae:
I think it's going to depend on where you are. I had to check 2 stores in order to find mine, then I was able to get the last one. Not sure how many the store(s) received at launch though. Hope to see some more activity... again, would love to have wireless wifi w/o a VZ sub check! But the phone is so new... maybe the app devs just need to catch up.

I've seen a couple threads on here talk about how the X, Ultra, Maxx, and Mini all have the same (??) software/OS/code/whatever, so if there's a root for the X, that means the Ultra/Maxx/Mini could get it as well? I'm new to how all this works and if I wasn't such a noob (or if I could find a good source online) I'd try to figure it out myself.

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I can't post links yet, but AndroidCentral has some Maxx threads started! Only one that asks about rooting though :(
[Droid Ultra General] One2thTEXAN:
I'm sure Moto X will get most of the love. But I'm keeping this Maxx no matter what.

I've been a modder on Android and a Tweaker on iDevices for quite a while now.

To be completely honest, this is the first device in a long time I,m in no rush for Dev support.

I'm an artist and a visual guy, the only thing I would want from root is to be able to have a theme.