yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] victoradjei:
Use the one dated 13th may 2005. Do a right click on the rar file and check properties. 8)

Victor
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
Strange vertical lines when XDAII is turned off

I've found that sometimes when my XDAII is turned off random vertical lines (dark grey) appear on the display. But display is not active. I don't think it's good for my battery life :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] mariolouis:
[/quote]

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=114774

sorry to edit it...please no direct link, I already pm cedric99---xda2jojo[/quote]

Oooops! Sorry!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] JamesManios:
I've had this happen as well. I think the OS is not sending the "clear" commands to the screen fully so some of the pixels stay on. I believe this is a common thing for LCD displays, you have to "clear" them when you want them to look off empty? I don't think it takes any power (or really VERY little).

Still it is annoying...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
The display is "cleared" when turned off. Lines appear usually in a few minutes. Sometimes they never appear. That's really strange, display should be turned off or am I fooling myself? :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] ex3206:
why GR 231 GPS can't connect to mapking v5 under wm2005?

hi,

i have update my 696i from 2003se to wm2005,

i have add bl device to bl manager,

1\motorola 801 headset ,

2\holux gr231 gps ,

the headset can work well , but run mapking v5 and use its function to connect to gps , it can'nt find my gps gr231 .

why ???????????

gvie me a hand

thx a lot
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] JamesManios:
I wonder if the pixels start to appear whenever the device goes into the low power state. There are several power states of the device, OFF is suspend, and there is a low power one where the screen stays off but the cpu is running. You can sometimes tell when that happens by hitting the volume slider and you will hear the beep sound. Maybe its a bug in the OS during these states?

Well I guess it has to be Win2005 related since it didn't use to do this :?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cedric99:
thx~~

Dear mariolouis and xda2jojo:

thx~~Support me for WM2005. Thx~~~ Very much
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] KT:
download manager + radio 1.17

hi guys...

one ques :-

what's the deal with the download manager of win2k5?

no matter what I do, I can't seem to get it workin. it doesn't manage any downloads what soever.. even if a d/l is going on, it doesn't show..

is this the case with everyone or indeed 'I am the child of a lesser god' ;)

also.. couldn't quite find the radio 1.17 rom in the ftp... pls QAN, redirect me... thanx

alwez

mOrph
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rictec:
some things i did find

so i find out that only one of the power settings the older one without the plug in can acess the backpack batery the other doesnt show it

them if i click the "Turn off power if device not used for " them the device shuts down but the radio stays on

if someone calls me it gives the ring signal but the phone dont wake up or ring.only a reset solves that state.

i will put here the radio stack 1.17 its workining better for me than the 1.18

keep up the good work

xda2jojo and toenailed are earth people and luky of us they use the himalaya

i can tell a story like ....its was light ...buzz..came along ...on is left was xda2...on is right was toena.....and peace on mobile .....etc etc
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rayan:
Re: WM 2005

I guess not... I also have problems SENDING sms... I can receive them no problem.

Could it be that the ROM is a O2 ROM? Should I have changed it to TMOBILE prior to upgrade my MDA2?

My Provider in Mexico is Telcel, but my prior WM2003SE (TMOBILE) worked just fine on SMS.

Any ideas?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] [Krueger]Dr.Stein:
Re: WM 2005
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rayan:
Re: WM 2005

Okay, I failed to mention that I already tried Buzz recomendation with no results... It still fails...

Any other clue?

Thanks

Rayan
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rmhtoh:
Reboot Screen showing WM2003SE

Hi,

I have just re-upgrade to WM2005. But after upgrade, it prompt to reset the device as i follow the step, the screen show "Rebooting WM2003SE" and "XDA ||z" > After rebooting, everything is fine.

Is that normal? What should I do in order no to see the "Rebooting WM2003SE" when I do a soft reset?

Thanks

Ric
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Herman:
Re: Reboot Screen showing WM2003SE

I guess you have a splash-screen on your device with the text "Rebooting WM2003SE"... -The Splash-screen is not a part of the OS-ROM, and may because of that be kept from your previous install.

EDIT: Get Buzz's splash-screen from this topic http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=21244&highlight=buzzwm2005splash
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] j_metselaars:
Question

Can anyone please post the gifs for the dialer of WM2005???

I think they should still be using the same or not???

Can anyone please post a zipfile with the files??

Thanks in advance!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] shafa:
Any good news about the bloody buttons? I did several hard reboots and went back to 2003SE, found it that I don;t like th downgrade went back to 2005 and found out i need the buttons, downgrade, upgraded again and...

please help me, i love the 2005 and i need those buttons for VC and my audio bool listener program.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] KT:
CHILL

Patience Shafa... Patience...

:D Am equally damned without those two buttons... && am sure HE (buZZ) is doing more than he can to solve this issue...

meanwhile... if i may suggest...

get urself Vito Button Mapper... it allows multiple functionalities to the same button... Though... when i uninstalled my Vito, it took with itself the Original Button Mapping tool... so had to hard reset... newez...

for those who have been lookin out for themes for Magneto... the Forum Index has a thread called Magneto Themes or something... READ IT & Download s'thing...Not much, but its a start... besides asthetics shouldnt really be a high priority with a few functonalities gone wonky... :)

3 cheers to the 3 heroes (buzz,toe & jojo)...

mOrph
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] j_metselaars:
Re: Question

Please! Can anyone help with these files? Would be very pleased!![b/]
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Kired:
how do you change the radio version???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
You have to re-flash just the radio_.nbf file into your device.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Kired:
@ steelorange

Pardon my ignorance but how will i reflash the radio.nbf :?: :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
Note: Doing this might require you to Hard Reset your device...so backup first. :)

> Extract Radio_.nbf (found inside Radio_1.17.rar) into an empty directory/folder in your PC.

> Place the attatched file (HimaUpgradeUt.exe) in the SAME folder where you've extracted Radio_.nbf

> Place your device in the cradle (you may need to put it in bootloader mode..see below) then run HimaUpgradeUt.exe

> Wait until update is done

***

Bootloader mode:

Put your XDA II in boot mode, by pressing the direction key left while holding the off button and then pressing reset button with your stylus
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] student:
Hi Everyone,

First off all let me thank all the members of this forum for there awesome support. I really have learnt a lot from here in the past one year or so.

I have upgraded my XDA2 to WM5 with instructions from this web site.Everything is fine but just that i dont get the autoconfiguration happening as it use to with WM2002 and WM2003se.I also dont have the auto config icon in the program list, that i used to use to configure my network.I also used to install a lot of other things after a hard reset. I cant configure my gprs anymore for Optus (Australia).

ANy help will be great,

Thanks in Advance.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Kired:
@ steelorange

:D Thank you.

:) I have re-flashed it succesfully :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
'Glad to help :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] shafa:
Please,

don't get me wrong. I am more than thankful. I think what buzz and other guys have done is great. I really appreciate their talent.

just frustrated with the bloody buttons :evil:

Cheers,

Shafa
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] KT:
WHERE is HE

our beloved buzz has been missing for a while... no new posts from him...

i'd like to think of this as the silence b4 the storm....

;)

everytime buzz is absconding for a day or two, I find myself upgrading ROMs

:D

hats off to the genius....

mOrph
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rictec:
where where where

buzzz stay away from the light and tell us what are you cooking

my buzzmobile 2005 is working very very well didnt find a mms software yet......
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Kired:
Sorry for my ignorance. :? but how do you clean the registry :?: :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] testdebug:
perfect w2k 2577 extendedrom

Hi everyone. I want to thanks this forum for eveything. Especially for the w2k2005. here is my uploaded file of my w2k5 extendedrom. my almost 2 years of accumulated and tested software full version. Hope this can help all the people here to powerup their pda to the fullest. Thanks.

ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Himalaya/Uploads2005/2577.rar
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] testdebug:
2577

i dont know how to attach that file. anybody please help out cos the file is at that directory i uploaded but people will encounter the permission denied

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Himalaya/Uploads2005/2577.rar

Viruscan after downloading===xda2jojo
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] KT:
hi

hi testdebug...

dunno how do u provide link to already uploaded file in FTP but u could reupload it as an attachment to ur post if it aint too much trouble..

thanks dude...

mOrph
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] testdebug:
2577

hopefully this link should work.

contained almost hundred softwares.

ftp://xdaupload:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Himalaya/Uploads2005
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: 2577

Actually, i found it here:

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Himalaya/Uploads2005/

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar

WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar

get it!!

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] woaychee:
Re: WM2k5_1.50g_XDA2_HIMALAYA.rar

hi, could u tell me enhancement of the rom u released? thanks and good work. :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] fmatos:
I am upgrading now. Thanks Buzz for your work.

I could no bypass COUNTRY ID error so I used himaupgrade that does not use country .

now 33%

I will post news when finished.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] fmatos:
Only upgrading os image, I will keep radio
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] qianbi0000:
Upgraded

I upgrade the OS smoothly, the handy changes to storage...still find other changes...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] kopecek:
What's new in 1.50g?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] qianbi0000:
Great Buzz pls give your fans some ideas on 1.50g.... :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] fmatos:
Finished upgrade fine.

Camera and rec buttons not working. Bootloader v 1.06

No more nand disk, now storage.

One thing I don´t understand. What role plays now the extended Rom?

None of the programs I have in ext rom are run when rebooting or I do not notice they run.

I'll continue testing

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] JamesManios:
Did the storage / program memory ratio change? Is there more/less ?

I'm assuming the camera software is the same as before, (crappy)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] testdebug:
what has changed in this version? is it now we have 30 meg of flash? Buzz can you make the os windows and registry directory information be stored at flash so that we dont have to backup constantly? this would represent a breakthrough!!!!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] KT:
where is it?

hi all...

searched the ftp... could find only the prev fullRAM version, guess 'b' or'f'...

where on ftp is the 1.5g?

pls help someone
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] [Krueger]Dr.Stein:
Re: where is it?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] testdebug:
can anybody tell me what is the changes with this new os please?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
now...

i've got ABSOLUTELY GREAT NEWS EVER, but unfortunately I cannot say, what it is, here...

so stay tuned...

let's see what's gonna happen in next few days...

;o))))))))))))

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
regarding 1.50g...

it is just the letter, what was changed in version, so there are just minor changes. if i'll post 1.60x, that would mean A CHANGE... ;o)

...so most obvious change is the existence of \Storage now instead of NAND Disk.

please try the HW buttons. if they don't work, try to downgrade towm2003SE and reupgrade to 2k5 again...

can't write more now, coz after that GREATEST NEWS EVER my hands are shaking ;o))))))))))))

and sorry, i'll not respond to questions what it is on any channel...

thanx for understanding...

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] ramram:
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHH BuZZ lool just give us some infos, what have you achieved grrrrrrrr :twisted: I can't wait...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] keithhiap:
fantastic upgrade for me.

shall wait for the patch for the HW button, anyway, not really affecting my usages.

i also dont care about the applications compatibilty.

most important is, a new change of interface .

thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steverae:
Cheers for the update to storage in 1.5g buzz, i like to give you ideas like that.....

now i'm waiting in anticipation for news on the GREATEST NEWS EVER..... could end up being a good weekend me thinks ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] zeeber:
OKKKayy man

u have pushed all of us in the ''wait state'' even temptised not to log off.

so,,,, for killing that waiting,,give us five names or five clues ...

and we will try to guess ,what is on ur mind :lol: :lol:

like ''''is it a country?

if country ,then is it from europe?[example] :wink: :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] maxtro:
The obvious change is NAND converted to well known STORAGE. Camera & Record buttons problem remained, btw under bootloader v 1.06. Guess everyone has the button problems with the same bootloader, could we finalize that v. 1.06 bootloader are all the caused?

Didn't solve the problem for power on, still need to press at least 2 secs/press it twice to turn power on, else press hung up button once to power on.

Hope the great news ever from buzz is the version 1.60x :shock: hehehe...

buzz keep it cool dude 8)

After all buzz really did a great job, impressive piece of work, really :wink: . Eventhough I'm just entering into the thread, in fact I had been following pretty closely in wm 2005 thingie.

Hope in the end we could get something like WM 2003 SE v 2.06 for WM 2005.

:lol:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Garou-69:
hadware button work for me with 1.06

Hello,

I upload to 2005 version (1.50g) and my buttons work fine with my 1.06 bootloader (they work with the first version FULL_RAM too).

I have radio 1.18, delete all file in storage and extend rom when i upload from 2003se to 2005.

if you need more exams, tell me.

And after the upgrade to 1.50g i find that my activeSync synchronisation is faster...

Garou

PS : thank you buzz for your hard job :-D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] awojtas:
successful upgrade

hey guys,

just to mark up another successful upgrade to 1.50g. Just used the 1.17 radio with it instead of 1.18 also -- flight mode works perfectly now which is great.

I bought an XDA2 for my girlfriend (safely keeping her on WM2003SE for the moment...) and she held the stylus down on the time and found you can switch to analog. i never knew you could do that... what a dumb dumb.

Anyway lol all good for an upgrade so thanks buzz, the 1.50g works great with 59.7mb storage and 41.3mb program available on first startup.

What does KITL do?

And when are you releasing 1.60? :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] ramram:
My bootloader is 1.06 note and camera buttoms doesn't work, since the first releases of magneto, someone mentioned about the note buttom would work in case the phone is in sleep mode, this fact is true, it was the only way how it worked with me to wake up the ppc and turning on the notes..

But still camera doesn't work even notes when it's in normal use :(

I even downgraded to Wm2003 then back to magneto, didnt work, I even tried the SE then back to magneto same results..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Phreakazoidz:
THANKS BUZZ

:lol:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D BUZZ
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] double_ofour:
Hey buzz.. look at your head.. you have HALO!! lol! tnx buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] sprint:
Thanks BUZZ

:arrow:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] nghilc:
xBackup error

Thanks Buzz

I have uprom to wm2005 ver 1.50g.00WWE, but when I run xBackup then have error: "Unknown Backup information error". Buzz, you can help me. Or anybody have ideas. Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] WGonzales[dC]:
WOW, HAIL TO THE KING OF Windows Mobile 2005 - BUZZ.!!!

BUZZ_LIGHTYEAR forever, i'll 4ever praise you for rhis buzz.. tnx. also to all who contributed buzz.. :D

also, jojo, for the call.. :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
hehe...

no i am not.

just compare the registry with old version...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] mariolouis:
great work buzz!!!

but i think i'm missing something. i've uninstalled the previous version already, deleted it in the startup folder, installed the new one but i still have 10mb free program memory. :shock:

i think i'm having that friday the 13th badluck! :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Christain:
And now, please please please tell us how to manage this, give us the light :idea: What do we have to change in registry to get the program-memory?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Shikra:
Buzz,

Out here we consider 13th a very auspicious day. So it has finally come true :)

Buzz you are lightyears ahead of us 8)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
:D...hehehe buzz...know where i am now...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
hey jojo,

where can i get that wonderful looking tool on screenshot?

THANX

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
i use the "Print Screen.exe" from "My Device" and copy the shortcut to start menu program, then map the button...hehehe
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
sorry...are you referring to the "space detective"?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Christain:
I think, buzz do not mean how to make a screenshot. I understand, that he wants to know which program shows these likely memory-bars.

Until now, I consumed about 5 liters coffee by waiting for the registry-changes... :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] blacklist:
buzz_lightyear. Pls send me ur nice app. I love it so much
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] WGonzales[dC]:
yes you are. ahehehe :D :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
yes...

THANX

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] marksken:
and how would the screen of space detive read with 2003(se)

do we have the same amount of memory ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
space detective

pm buzz my idol
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: space detective

THANX my FRIEND :o))))
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] blacklist:
xda2jojo,buzz_lightyear. u r great.

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] mariolouis:
still can't make it to work!!! :oops:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] HDJ80:
You are greatest, thank you very much to all (specially to Buzz).

Taking advantage of your knowledge on Magneto and the XDAII... It will be possible that the backpack CF slot works someday in wm2005?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
i would suggest you all to read THIS WONDERFUL POST done by jojo... :o)))

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rayan:
Re: xBackup error

As far I know xBackup does not work yet... Nevertheless I would recommend not to restore from a previous OS anyways...

You'd better reinstall everything from scratch...

Oh, by the way... I have upgraded to WM5.0 since first release and my buttons work all the time...

Regards,

Rayan
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] asaikovs:
WM2k5 for XDA2 (ver. 1.50g) and optus

Can anyone tell me if they have done the 1.50g upgrade on their XDAII and are using optus as a carrier??

I am looking to do the upgrade but before i do i wanted to know if i need to change my operator id as per Buzz's instructions or can i just run the rom upgrade without doing anything??

I am in australia and use optus as a carrier.

Thanks in advance
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] shafa:
don't worry mate, you don't need to do any thing. just upgrade.

i'm on optus as well.

Cheers,

Shafa
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] blacklist:
Call Duration does not recognise

- incoming: Unknown

- outgoing: Unknown
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] humayunl:
Any changes in the upgrade procedure?

Ok, I think I'm about to take the plunge and upgrade to WM5 as well... I even dreamt about it last night.

Hope it goes better than it did in my dream :)

One question, with all the new updates (1.50g) and the much awaited 1.6 coming, are the Upgrade instructions on the wiki still valid or are there any changes there too?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] blacklist:
After have an incoming call everything is ok. he he

Thanks again Buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Mahmood:
THANKS BUZZ u are the great !!

Uploaded and installed the WM2005 ver1.50g yesterday and it is working great but still waiting for your next magic version 1.60 !!!! :D :D :D :D :wink: :wink: :wink: i hoop that we wil hear soon from u and the new version is :

1.FASTER

2.HARD WARE BUTTONS working *(for those who have problem try to download RADIO versio 1.17) much stable then any other version and bootloader 1.03 !!

3.New icons i see at settings :D

4.STORAGE shows 14.1 MB :cry: :)

5.Extended ROM i installed had tooooooooooooo many programs !!! so becareful with installing them because it neeeeeeeeeeeds alot of memory !!

6.Still waiting for your next brilliant move !!!! version 1.60 :wink: :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Pyrofer:
Dont think ill go to 1.50g yet, I get the feeling something good is in the works...

Has anyone done the f to g upgrade and kept their data? Does doing this require a hard reset or can you keep the installed programs etc as is?

In regards to the Radio Rom, Im using 1.18 and wondered if its worth going back to 1.17, a few people have said 1.17 is actualy more stable. I know we dont have a changelog or anything, but does anybody know if there is a benefit to 1.18 over 1.17?

The general opinion seems to be 1.06 bootloader means ur buttons wont work, I have 1.06 and indeed, cam and notes buttons dont work.

Has anyone yet discovered a way to change the bootloader?

I wonder if Buzz's good news is that M$ are so impressed with his work they just hired him for $lots ?

Thanks again Buzz, keep up the good work.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Dutchie:
Bootloader 1.06 and Buttons Work

:D All the buttons work correctly :D :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] i3oyi3astos:
Buzz,

Did you make another BuzzROM? hehe i already have the 1.50f.bl installed. I asked coz you said that there is no more Nand DISK

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] sintaxe:
Buzz G version

since this last "g" version any e-mail account you create goes bananas after you soft reset.....

damn....

great job buzz....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] shafa:
My buttons still not working :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: