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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
So if you were getting poked with a stick would you just ignore it and hope it stops or try to make it stop. And when it stops and then happens again and again and again how long would it take to make you feel frustrated.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] coolvipcandy:
a quick though bit offtopic question : (a bit coz i'm trying to help for the issues related to s5 ports :) )

what u use to edit apks ??

i used apk editor from xda itself "APK edit v0.4",, all goes well until last step when it refuses to save the apk and returns error.

then used apk editor (android), it does all but the apk rebuilt with it is not accepted by phone,,

then there's ninjamorph,, same issues as apk editor (android),,

is there any decent editor ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] wolper13:
When you always answer the question over and over again. I'm sure you will get frustrated. but ignoring their questions won't harm you or frustrate you. This is a thread where there is always people around. I'm sure somebody will answer their question eventually. that is how helpful people are here. So I suggest don't answer every question you see especially when it is discussed over and over again. If you feel like answering them, you could always answer in a nice way. when you help someone eventually they will learn and eventually they will also help someone. its a cycle
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] I am totally sorry for my previous post on that matter and on thinking that the ones who it was addressed to will even bother reading it....laughing it off and making fun on these posts was way better my friend. Stupid me was just not able to realize that.

Please don't let these things bother you too much as the passion to give the users the most possible features and best experience was the reason I always liked Echoe so much and I can fully understand why these posts hurt. One (me included) has to understand that there are way to many people who just don't give a f*** on what actually stands behind a ROM and that there might be personal feelings involved.

The new features are actually so cool that I want to buy a S4 just to play around with it so please don't stop working on it just because some Aroma fan boys can't understand that the real work is no where near the installer!!!!!

At last if it has to to be windmills whe're chasing so be it as long as this great project will continue. Let me just check how to mod a lance to do so.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Thaw.Bytes:
So getting them to read the last few pages before asking what has probably already been answered there isn't helping them?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bryantjopplin:
Shoot son your doing the hard way. Lol I have been using 7zip lately. Put apk into archive, open archive, open app in archive, pull what you need to edit (copy), put edited file back in (paste), exit archive, extract archive, push apk where you want it, install and blah blah blah lol
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] nechmadi:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] you're great developer that helps his users more than any other developer here in xda . v25 and 25.1 are great! smooth as butter. just wanted to say thank you
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
here you go

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/edit-your-apk-files-using-apk-manager-4-4/
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] wolper13:
Well you could always say just backread in a nice way, that is helping them. I just sometimes saw people saying it in a rude manner which is not right.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bryantjopplin:
What, aroma? I hate it personally, put a standard rom together, let it flash all the extras that aren't needed to the SD card, or just a separate zip, make everyone learn how to make a zip and install what they want and then bam, they will appreciate it. This world is too full of takers, people need to learn how to do things for themselves. I don't have any college or class work on any pc, Android, graphics design, html design, but dang it I learned from trying and reading.

Always remember,

Do or Do not, there is no try.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] :
The thing in this thread is, when a new update is released, everyone is happy and say thank you to the dev. There are after every update lets say 10 pages of thankful comments and confirmation of everything is working fine. But if there is one or two bugs found, 20 or 30 pages are full of complaints about the whole ROM. In this release (v25.1) it's the first time ever that Echoe is a little bit buggy and this is mostly related to the whole S5 stuff. Everyone was crying for S5 stuff, now that it's included, everyone is crying about bugs. Tamirda does a great job, BUT he said it himself that SOME things are not working perfect. Nobody must flash v25.1. V25 is rock stable, so keep it. If you want the S5 stuff stable and full working, you only have to wait. The devs are working on their projects every day and we have to respect, they also having a private life.

for me, i was testing another ROM the last few days, but i come back to v25.1 because i like that version. I can live with some features that not working correct, and you know why? Because since Echoe V2, i have been Echoe supporter from the bottom of my heart and i know, if there is any bug, it will be fixed sooner or later. No complaining, just report, wait or fix it yourself. Let's keep the good spirit of this thread, because this is what it makes it the best.:good:

friedrich, I'm behind your back and i know a lot of people here who are that also.:good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Darkwing_X:
It works very well, i'm still on 4.2.2 MGA Bootloader
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
GOD I LOVE THIS THREAD !!! ???
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ranger4740:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] mate you've got wonderful conviction, I have been following echoe creations for quite a while now I think I started using from version 10 or 11. You have been doing some really awesome work you've even started dabbling in kernel dev, you're awesome and far above anything I have ever achieved regarding android.

I've been around xda for a number of years and have seen developers come and go, the ones that go is usually cause by nasty, ungreatfull users that can't even turn on their phone let alone anything else and won't stop to read anything, OK I'm not perfect and have made some stuff ups.

Point is fried a lot of other devs would have said stuff you lot I'm outa here with some of the crap I've seen you get dished up on here!

I consider myself privileged to be able to have your wonderful efforts powering my phone.

Thank you!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Trilis:
this should be more clasified, not by only read... started with echoe creations, tryed all browsers, tryed download managers still getting *.php file, yes i can rename it, but it doesn't flash right, getting error. Echo kitchen, where can i find all the mods without using my phone? You know sometimes i want to be prepared to flash everything right away in one time. Now i have to flash main, then download everything via phone (sometimes happens, download has stopped..) and flash again.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] :
With dolphinbrowser every download of echoe creations is in zip format.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Just to "clarify" and not to be mean but what browsers did you try? It does state in bold on the creations app to use a 3rd party browser (example dolphin) I've used chrome with no problems only after I updated it from the play store. As for the flashing part I use TWRP and I can load up to 10 zips to flash at one time Imo that's easier for me than going through all the Aroma screens.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] JJalowiec:
V25

Will the newest version of this Rom work on M919 T-Mobile Variant??
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dysan0201:
Hi! First thanks to dev, this rom is really good, but today i can't use the Bluetooth. I try many solutions. Wipe cache,wipe dalvik, clear bluetooth app in settings... Afternoon no problem, now i can't turn it on.

Anyone any idea?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] d@m3:
Do you use tasker? It can create some conflicts. Try flashing different kernel or dirty flash the rom.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Yes I converted my friends sprint s4 to tmo and it flashed just fine? just backup before you try it ?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] d@m3:
Be careful with the bootloader though :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dysan0201:
Nope, i not us a tasker. Thanks i try the kernel flashing. Not working, am reinstall the rom. I don't wanna change to another rom, but thanks the advice.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] stootie:
Hi !

For when an installation with Aroma?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
That is a really good question. I assume you read the previous pages cause it really seems you did.

I think it was scheduled for v78 but if we are lucky it might be already in v75
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bryantjopplin:
Well it might seem he doesn't speak English well. Seriously. So maybe he didn't understand.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] markworksfx:
Yes and yes again I have the m919 and it works great just follow the directions

1. Clean install of v25

2. Set up phone

3. Dirty flash v25.1

4. Enjoy all the great work put in the Rom.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Aroma was discontinued?

Sent from my UPSM v25.1 s4.9

---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:53 PM ----------

Come on man? kinda funny though ? I gotta remember that others have to use a translator in this thread and that doesn't always go so well ?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mannybiker:
Dear friedrich420, the only thing that worries me is to offend you in some way, so if this is what my personal opinion made I apologise for this and I invite you to re-read my post without prejudices. I really appreciate your work and the time you spent. I personally know what it means to follow a project like the one you started, so you have all my respect. You are always kind and I won't imagine to be disrespectful to you.

Said this, I hope that in a community forum it is still permitted to express an opinion, a fortiori given that it was not a criticism.

The majority of developers divide their releases following the concept of stable and nightly versions (regardless of the name they use to indicate these branches) and I don't think they are all stupids in doing so. I don't say you need to do like this, I've just asked for an opinion, if you did not find this way useful to clarify to the end users which version best fit their needs. Simple like that. I've never said your releases are beta, also if I think that 25.1 in fact could be seen like this. Nonetheless I've never thought releasing beta should be a shame, this is part of the community work, to test and debug, but 25.1 is in fact as you said a preliminary version and I have just suggested to indicate that. If 25 was rock solid, then perfect, just mark it as stable. This was the idea. Is this so offensive to propose and discuss?

It would be great if everytime someone express an opinion this was not taken as an offense. If suggesting something will result in flooding the thread with posts that will incourage you to not listen what your users think, we will pass our time to justify ourselves, to complain and to argue about human behaviours instead of talking about technology. I will certainly avoid to express myself next time to avoid any kind of misunderstanding or discontent that might disturb the great job you are doing.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dysan0201:
The dirty reflash solved the problem. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
That wasn't meant to be said in a inappropriate manner guys I just couldn't resist just to say there won't be one. ..

[MENTION=4304370]jds3118[/MENTION] so you were aware I thought someone would answer in a matter that would have startet it all again:p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
No don't get me wrong I knew what you were up to ? but I don't think he would have lol that's all ?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] JJalowiec:
Thank you! Anything I need to do with bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Alxoom33:
Really, no aroma? So what!!! Lol. This smells like a great series of fantastic Roms.

---------- Post added at 07:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:39 PM ----------

Seriously, I flashed versions 24, 25 and 25.1 and have Nandroid backups of each, nicely Cobalt themed.

I personally prefer 24 as my DD but play around with each, as well as the new GPE 4.4.4 ROM.

Its fun, that's what we like to do! We are lucky to have such a great developer as [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] and the Echo team. So lighten up everyone feel lucky and enjoy your S4.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Attention Echoe family! As an example to the conversation we all had earlier on this thread about users and developers, I have been informed that [MENTION=4921688]The Sickness[/MENTION] has closed up shop. All his threads are now closed and links have been pulled. We lost a great person and developer! I for one am going to miss his awesome work and out of respect for him I am pulling the links from my thread. It's a sad day especially when we were just talking about how users (not all) treat developers. We don't want [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] to do the same so please everyone let's not let that happen!!!! It's happening more and more every day developers leaving xda very sad.??

Sent from my UPSM v25.1 s4.9
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] SelfElevated2:
No. The rom won't flash a boot loader. Just flash 25 clean. Then do initial setup and then dirty flash 25.1

~Sent From My Insane S4~
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Eudemony:
Respect

[MENTION]@friedrich420[/MENTION] has all my respect. He is extremely helpful and takes the time to talk to users. Because of his influence I've started developing my own rom and if I have any questions or need help he will help to the nth degree. I can see the stress he's getting but [MENTION]@friedrich420[/MENTION] we are all supportive of your tireless work. Some times I don't know how you do everything you do!!

From one rom dev to another, you are the MASTER! :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwarfer66:
That is sad, good thing I got his latest yesterday before he closed. :crying::crying::crying:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] coolvipcandy:
this was first thing i did but seems like this doesn't work for all apks, it does render few non-working esp the framework-res.apk
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bryantjopplin:
Hmm never been a problem for me
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
That one can be tricky sometimes especially during recompiling the apk

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwarfer66:
Hey mate did you try sickness mod v4 before he quit, I have it but have not use it as v3 worked fine.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Yup he added a few more goodies to it?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwarfer66:
Cool may have to look into it! :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Try the lenevo camera? I think it's better than sammy's IMHO?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Acer4605:
Sorry to drop in on this but I dissagree here,

[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] and his team are more then willing to help whenever a new problem is comming arround, they are not affraid and stick their heads in the sand waiting till the storm blows over.

If people should respect the hard work of [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] and his team they should know by now that every exception on a traditional install, is mentioned seperately in the OP of the latest release.

Friedrich knows that most of the people are reading this thread diagonal instead of following the instruction to the letter they are so excited that they just read there is a new version and every thing else is forgotten because of their flash addiction.

Having issues in IRL I don't have the time to read the nr of pages that have been written between my last and current visit, however if Friedrich advises me to install V25.1 the dirty way over V25 with the side note (if you want to know why read a couple of pages back, because it has been answered a couple of hundred times) I can totally understand why he reacts the way he does.

And if I should ignore his remarks and end up with a soft bricked phone because of that, then it's up to my sorry a-ss to correct this problem myself simply because I did not follow the OP's instruction to the letter.

I know for a fact that [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] is far from perfect and he has his mistakes like everyone else, and if he made a mistake/srewed up and because of that a users phone will not work as designed he won't rest untill he has found a solution for this problem.

Since no one besides the other devs here on XDA can imagine what a time consuming job rom/kernel building is on a very old pc with a crappy internet connection we should accept the fact that he react the way he does from time to time.

either you take his remarks like a man or just say I don't care and move on to the next Rom, where the support is not as good as it is in this thread.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Mussels84:
thanks for that. just one thing - when Echoe has bugs, we refer to it as a 'feature'

this is where "featured-up" or "F'd up" comes from.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwarfer66:
I agree with that, the rom itself is fine, if I have a problem it's at MY END. :D:D:D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bala_gamer:
tried echoe 25.1 today... flashed it after making a mega wipe from aosp roms... stuck in bootloop, tried 3 times still same. Am i missing something?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwarfer66:
:crying: You have to install v25 FIRST, then after boot up install v25.1.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] SelfElevated2:
Says it in the op. You have to flash 25 then do the initial setup and reboot back into recovery. Then flash 25.1 without wiping.

Its something in the new s5 mod thats being fixed but as of now that is what you have to do

~Sent From My Insane S4~
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bala_gamer:
damn... thought so.. thanks for the heads up
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Mussels84:
i just looked at page 1 and the FAQ, and i dont actually see it written anywhere that you need to dirty flash.

can someone show me where it is on page 1?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Here you go ?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Mussels84:
ya know what, its there, but it wasnt stupidly obvious either. i managed to miss that twice XD
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
Haha so things need to be stupidly obvious? That's a new one hahahaha ??

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Mussels84:
this *is* the internet.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jds3118:
This is very true my friend ? maybe we can write a new book Echoe Rom for dummies haha they have them for everything else ?

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] onnomeijers:
Hi,

Every time I flash, some contacts are being merged.

Does anyone knows a way to avoid this behaviour?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] friedrich420:
So is replying to explain myself, a sign that im offended or that i dont allow discussions??

Have you realized that im "damned if ido, damned if i dont" on this thread?

Becaus the dictator bullhsit that has hurt me more than anything here on xda began from that!!

If i respond and explain myself, you assume that im a dictator who is telling people not to criticize??

Once again im starting to believe that its more a communication issue..

Can a "dev" not respond? Im not sure where you are getting at...

The other time i explained why aroma wasnt included and my reply was called "nagging"

Yesterday i express myself and you make the interpretation that im not allowing people to ask/ report things..

Damn what's going on??

Are you guys not used to real human feelings? I dont get it!! Is it all supposed to be robot-like responses and reactions?

But i think this can everybody get:

Once a thing is not fun anymore it HAS to end...

We have come to the point that im afraid of responding, because of how its gonna be interpreted, and what are people gonna think and say about me... I have heard a lot of nasty things and the worst ones were from people that i thought mattered to me...

Take care!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ronnie498:
Thread Reopened @ OP Request
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Coktail:
Hi

Hello Mates,

i flash the v25i version and have much battery drain. I never had such battery drain before. Even i done battery calibration.

And one more big problem: Before i sleep i switsch my phone of and all night long its and electroc but not 100% full...It was just 61%.

I use Anker 5200 mAh battery. When i use the originall battery its is 90% over night.

Anybody have same problems?

Best Regards
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] :
Welcome back beloved family. Thank you very much friedrich. This was so important for me.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] robboc180:
Echoe 25.1 Rom Air Call Accept.

Hi all can some confirm if Air Call Accept (hand wave to answer call) is working on Echoe 25.1 Rom as it does not work on mine, the sensor is working though as it shows up at the start of the call.

It also works with some other gestures.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] :
Must be a faulty battery my friend
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] zibdor:
FRIEDRICH ******

Unfortunately, not really understood in that thing but I guess by watching non-stop the entire thread.

When I saw that it is CLOSED - I could not believe it!

It's like something taken away from me and so suddenly. I fully understand your behavior. And no matter what you do - I support you. Forum is a cluster of "different people" and probably some of them did not notice that something happened.

Take a big breath as Developer. I show as always classy.

Today I saw the unlocked thread Echoefamily - the sun came out for me
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] markworksfx:
So glad that this thread is back opened I was like what the hell I'm going to do now got to have my daily dose of echoe goodness v25.1 so freaking sweet
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] minhas4all:
Thanks Almighty ... the thread is back ... [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] plz don't disappoint 99% pure echoenion because of 1% bad people .... :::: good :::: good ::::
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] coolvipcandy:
Welcome Back and plz never do it again,,
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] htcsensation:
i came from Phoenix Rom 8 I9505XXUEMJ5 XXUEMK9.

wiped the phone, installed zip fajll, than reboot, after that phone freeze at Samsung logo.

can anyone explain me why ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
Did you install v25 with clean install and than dirty flash v25.1on top?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] zibdor:
Because I have not read exactly 1 page
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] stefeda:
I've strange problem with phone rotation. What's the cause? I've echoe 25.1
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 4aces:
I feel you.... thank you my friend