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[Nexus 4 General] younix258:
To all three responses above me:

Fine it might not overheat to the point of melting or burning or even getting damaged but it does reach throttle temps and get uncomfortable to touch at times. Both of these are issues. Your phone should not be too hot to keep on your ear during a conversation, nor make your palm sweat excessively from holding it. It would also be ideal if your quad phone 1.5GHz phone stayed at 1.5GHz when under load. If it is forced to go below that, there is a good reason for threads like these.
[Nexus 4 General] predator290:
My nexus 4 reached up to 77C. It never shut off or anything. I called Google and they said as long as everything still works its fine. I thought it was a lame answer but we will see. Battery got up to 56C.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
1. Throttle temps are actual very low.

2. It's glass. Glass absorbs hest from the ambient air very easily ( it is summer for many) and from the inside of the device.

3. The phone shouldn't get to hot to hold to ear. I have never felt the display to be hot. Unless it was in direct sunlight.

4. All modern smartphone phones will throttle. Yes this one is more aggressive than most but they all do it. The amount of power all the modern high end chips can draw under load is the highest it has ever been. So they get hotter than ever. Since they are passively cooled, even the best designed phone under full load will throttle.

5. The only good reason for threads like this is to inform the user there isn't a problem. There are no issues.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
thats the thing, its not a phone. its much much more than that. you ever feel how hot a laptop could get? anyways, i do agree with you with one point, that lg, or google, chose to set the cpu throttle temperature too low as a default. having root, i choose to disable thermal throttle, so i never have an issue with with my cpu being throttled down. i sympathize there with non rooted users. but thats only a software fix(the difference is changing a Y to a N in a file), thats not an issue with the n4 overheating.

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you look familiar to me, where have i seen you..
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
Waiting for you to post the solution on how to use the volume buttons on the side of the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
What do you expect with no laptop class ventilation?
[Nexus 4 General] darkness4every1:
My N4 get realy hot too, when i'm outside (38C-42C) i can't talk because it burns my years :D but i see MIUI and 4.3 the heatting issue is gone, i mean it's still hot sometimes but not burning.

I've got a Optimus Black when it first appeard and i got even hotter...
[Nexus 4 General] coolnow:
Actually, the Nexus 4 is more prone to overheating than, say, the almost identical Optimus G. Something about a small space in the Nexus 4 somewhere that doesn't conduct heat as efficiently away from the SoC, unlike the Optimus G.

However, like said before, it is summer for most people and it got hot in the UK, so your phone will be warmer than usual if left in the pocket or in the sunshine, but you can't expect to use a phone that's running at 55C-60C by only browsing, can you? Have you guys noticed the drastic temperature difference between wifi usage (low temps) vs data usage (high temps)? This pattern is present in most if not all phones but not as drastic as this, no way.

Then again, sometimes Franco's app is reporting 40-45 C and the phone feels really cool to the touch, and another moment, it's reporting 38 C and the back feels hot, so there's lots of factors that play in this.

Make sure you keep the phone out of the sun, and use Wakelock Detector to see if any rogue apps are holding a dirty wakelock doing lots of syncing especially over data (recent Whatsapp versions have been producing fullsync wakelocks with me everyday).

Disclaimer: other than hot weather and normal heating of the phone, i have not experienced any abnormal overheating, but have a friend who has. My normal temps are 34 C - 38 C, even in hot weather with most of my usage on wifi. Outside in hot weather gets to 42 C - 44 C but that's understandable.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
this thought that coolnow just had..

feel doesnt report a temperature, feel only shows that something is warmer than/cooler than whatever body part you are touching it with. its all relative to your body temperature. try this experiment.. get 3 glasses of water, one hot water, one ice water, one room temperature water. at the same time, stick one hand into the hot water and the other in the ice water. keep them in there for a minute. now pull both of your hands out and stick them both in the same glass of room temperature water at the same time. this will mess with your senses, so be warned! the hand that was in the hot water, will feel the room temperature water to be cold, the hand that was in the ice water will feel the room temperature water to be very warm, while they are both in the same glass of water. so you see, reporting how something feels is very inaccurate and unreliable.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
As simms22 point out about the feel, that is a terrible way to judge it.

Also so is the actual number from franco's app. His app measures the cpu (Soc) temp. It doesn't also include the battery temp. The higher battery temp will make the phone feel hotter even if the cpu temp is basically the same. Example when changing from the wall. It's also much larger than the SoC so it warms up a gesture surface area more quickly than just the SoC.

It's also located on the middle to lower part of the phone where it is more common to have your hand. Compared to the near the top / camera location for the SoC

Another thing that is obvious but I never mentioned. Is the phone is black. A black glass phone in summer sunlight ( on a call holding the phone up to your ear) will get hot. Even if the thing was turned off.
[Nexus 4 General] coolnow:
That's exactly what i'm saying, reporting what you feel, especially on a glass backing that the Nexus 4 has, is inaccurate (and everyone who went through highschool biology knows our sense of temperature is just a measure of temperature difference).
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
In case you didn't notice, Simms22 was not arguing against you but supplementing your arguments instead. In layman's term, you are both playing for the same team. So stop fighting amongst yourselves.

At this point I think we can all agree that in terms of actual temperature the Nexus 4 is not (much) hotter than other phones with similar specs. However, there is probably something about the design and/or materials used that causes people to worry (and complain) about the phone overheating. Now if you good folks want to figure out what actually causes the phone to "feel" hotter in comparison to other phones, feel free to proceed. I have no doubt that it will become an interesting topic.
[Nexus 4 General] coolnow:
Somehow, i took his post as heavy sarcasm. I've edited my post.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
really, i wasnt arguing with you, i was backing you up, explaining, because unfortunately most people dont know that feel is just a measure of temperature difference.

what i think the issue is, is that lg(or google) had the cpu throttle temp set too low on stock devices, giving people a noticeable reduction in performance within a normal temperature range, plus the whole glass back thing, therefore freaking out many. enjoying the freedoms of root access, i disable thermal throttle, so i dont notice any of the affects that the throttle would cause.

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and im out of thanks, but thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] RockBoyEmy:
It is true that the Nexus 4 is heating more that other devices, it has been know even before its release. I had them too at first, when using heavy apps or games. But some roms and kernels make it heat more than normal because they are putting the cpu freq constantly at the max (1.5 GHz), that's why some users have problems constantly. I use the Paranoid Android rom, which is pretty light speaking of cpu usage, and franko kernel putting the max cpu freq at 1Ghz, also lowering the voltages. It helps a lot.
[Nexus 4 General] danielsf:
Every device I've ever had, htc desire, archos 70it, galaxy s2, galaxy s3, galaxy tab 10.1, nexus 7, nexus 4 and nexus 10 all have a new thread like this every week, just because the device "feels" hot. All our SoC are so powerful these days do have a high TDP and that's made worse by our SoC's relying on passive cooling. We won't have cool CPU's anytime soon, unless you want a fan or any other active cooling mechanism. Anything under ~80C is fairly safe for modern SoC's and isn't really anything to worry about. When you CPU get's too hot it will aid passively cooling by thermal throttling the CPU to a lower Frequency and if it carries on going up, then it will shut down before any damage is done. With all my devices I've done the same test, Undervolt, turn stress test on when SoC is at ideal temp and time how long it take to reach a certain temp. Repeat the experiment several times. I found that my nexus 10 heats up by far the fastest, thanks 32nm A15's and the nexus 4 was one of the coolest, only being beaten by my galaxy tab 10.1, 40nm dual core A9. To be fair, I do have a faster binned chip. Even my 1.4ghz exynos 4412 s3's core temp was higher than the n4's, you just couldn't feel it as much through the plastic. The nexus 4's heat dissipation even with the minor fault compared to the optimus G is reasonably good. :)
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
no, its not true. and its known because of bloggers that have no knowledge of how its supposed to work who wrote false statements. and then those people who read that crap believing anything they write. and then gets continued by false posts like this. the nexus 4 does not heat up more than any other device. what evidence do you have besides for blog articles? my nexus 7 and galaxy nexus easily heat up more than my nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] C4SCA:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43837328

[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION]

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
:silly:
[Nexus 4 General] C4SCA:
Forget it simms... People are square about this...

Anyways, the n4 soc works fine there is no manufacture issue and glass is highly conductive so the heat (wich is normal) does come out of the phone more easily and so u feel it more than with a plastic phone. IMO be HAPPY that the heat is outside the phone and doesnt stay in it

typed from my NeXuS 4 beasting Matr1x kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
exactly!
[Nexus 4 General] RockBoyEmy:
ok...first: dude, you gotta chill out a bit

second: you know, when people do reviews about phones, especially when talking about temperature, they tend to make measures on the phone surface and write down the temperatures, and after that post them on articles. (I am talking about important sites, not simple bloggers or stuff). As for me, I am a normal person who before getting a new phone searches for info everywhere he can, and then decide what choice to make. I am not stupid or someone who (quoting you) "reads all that crap believing anything they say". Of course that I may not have all that knowledge you were talking about, but as a matter of fact, I am not complaining at all about the phone heating, as you had the possibility to see from my previous post. In fact, I am super happy with my nexus 4, despite all the things that I read about it, I chose it instead of other devices, exactly because I DIDN'T ACTUALLY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEY SAY. So, for the future, try to be a little less aggressive, ok mate? Cheers ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
I'm pretty sure Simms knows what he's talking about; phone reviewers think they know what they are talking about, but really they don't. Its the people that actually mess around with their phones, flash custom kernels etc, that do. Think car reviewers vs car mechanics; I'd you had a problem with your car, you would go to a mechanic to sort out your problem, not Jeremy Clarkson.
[Nexus 4 General] RockBoyEmy:
I definitely agree with you, but I don't think this is the best way to talk with people :\
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
And your comment was the perfect way to respond? I don't think he was particularly aggressive, but I'm sure you would be the amount of threads clueless people have made moaning about heat 'issues'
[Nexus 4 General] username8611:
My car overheats all the time too. I popped the hood after going for a drive the other day, rested my hand on the radiator and it burned the **** out of me. The temperature gauge reads in the middle but I know its lying to me. Currently on the phone with the dealer about warranty replacement... They say its normal to get hot but I'm about to find their engineers and tear them a new one, its not supposed to get hot.
[Nexus 4 General] denpos:
wnedfor was

Yes, it does get warm but it shouldn't be a problem for the device.

If it is really disturbing you, flashing custom roms might help. I'm currently running PA 3.69 with the kernel that comes along with it and it has slightly lower temperatures compard to the stock rom and kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] iGoogleNexus:
O.o ... Ive been sticking mine in the freezer when it gets really hot... <_< yeeeaaaah

Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
bad idea.

all that condensation that forms on it when you take it out of the freezer.. well it forms on the insides as well. and you know how much your phones insides love water :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] iGoogleNexus:
O.o thanks for the tip...

Google Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] snapper.fishes:
You may also seriously damage your lcd screen. Liquid crystal can be damaged by cold temperature
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
The so called important sites are usually the worst offenders.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
i personally know a lot of these "reviewers", writers, from these blog sites and regular news sites. i used to help out with a few of these android sites myself. who do you think they ask for help with their android phones? not all of these people are clueless, but you would be surprised just how many are. many even just recycle what they read, from other blogs/sites. anywho, im not being particularly aggressive as i want to be here. i just want to squish this untruth that keeps going around and around and around and around.. thats all. this untruth has cost many people countless hours of stress. or is that unimportant?

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truth!
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Two words: Arctic Silver.
[Nexus 4 General] vinz2904:
Simms, I dont know your old phones, but also for me this N4 is a device really hot. Don't talk about air temperature and other, if I feel that device hot is hot, not important the temperature because the temperature is always the same, but if I change device from a day to another one, is "problem" of device.

Inviato da mio iPad usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
thats the thing, "feel" isnt an accurate way to read temperatures. feel is relative, just compares temps, if its warmer or cooler than the body part you are feeling it with. you "feel" it more on a nexus 4 because of the glass back. my galaxy nexus and nexus 7 run warmer than my nexus 4. not by "feel", but by actual temperature reading. here, maybe this will explain about "feeling" temperature..
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
What you feel is irrelevant.
[Nexus 4 General] Richieboy67:
Of course when you have a glass phone it will feel hotter because glass acts as a conduit or conductor for the heat. Plastic is an insulator so plastic phones will not get as hot.

This is a quad core CPU. It gets hot! They all do depending on what you are doing. I highly doubt it gets hot unless pushing it.

Mine only gets hot when playing a game or something like that. I don't think it is a concern. You just are not used to it. CPUs can get pretty hot without damage. They will throttle down also if too hot.

If it bothers you just use a case and you will be fine.
[Nexus 4 General] aliablow:
My N4 gets unbearably hot to the touch when I play heavy games or browse the web through 3G while charging. But that's supposed to happen I guess because heavy gaming itself heats up the device and charging through AC heats up the device to some extent too. But when I check the temperature from FK Updater, it never goes beyond 40 to 45 degrees. That being said, my point here is that N4 is very average and normal in terms of heating up because it never heats up as much exaggerated by the OP when in normal use. My average temperature is 37 degrees and I live in a tropical country country where the ambient temperature is always above 30 degrees. :laugh:

Certainly all the factors mentioned in the posts above comes into play too. Glass back, quad core, etc. :good:
[Nexus 4 General] :
My CPU temp (according to trickstermod) is ~45-50oC most the time, 75-80oC while gaming and a insane ~105oC when overclocked (I immediately shut the phone off!!) Writing this I'm at 58-59oC!
[Nexus 4 General] gnan10:
Oh man it resembles my gaming laptop's temperatures...ur fone is just insane
[Nexus 4 General] Xmaster8:
Man thats the worst thing to do with phone. Combining charging with heavy gaming or browsing on 3G...
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
are you talking battery temp or cpu temp? your numbers sound like battery temps.
[Nexus 4 General] aliablow:
Sometimes there's really no choice. I use my phone if I have to. Besides USB Tethering itself is sort of using the phone on 3G while charging...

Battery temperature from System Monitor of Franko Kernel Updater app. I don't think it provides CPU temperature. I could be wrong though.
[Nexus 4 General] Lucena04:
My Nexus 4 is heating up too much and the battery is draining very fast.

I've tried to restore the factory image (4.2, 4.3 and 4.4) giving wipe everything, still not resolved, either by using the Toolkit as installing the file. Official image of the bat.

Gives the impression that the processor becomes very hot, just above where the battery sits. I arrived to dismantle the cell to give a direct charge on the battery but the battery is different from that of other cell know and could not give it direct load. Battery heating problem can give the processor? My phone was imported late last year and have no warranty, you guys have any tips of what I can try to do to fix this?
[Nexus 4 General] Jikx:
My phone would get incredibly hot on stock kernels as well.. I just load up a custom one and undervolt it. Keeps it cool, battery life is also better.

Currently on Stock 4.4 ROM with *hells core* kitkat b42 kernel undervollted by -0.125v across all CPU frequencies with Trickster Mod.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheJusticeBeaver:
I just got a GT-i9500 GS4 and I wanted to install miui on it but didn't noticed the release was for i9505, after the installation finished my phone didn't boot up and I think it's bricked. I tried a few unbricking methods like factory reset and cache wipe but nothing helped.

Any1 can help me please, also is it possible to get it to the store and get it fixed because I did a factory reset on it so it's not rooted ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HS™:
First thing u do is use my sign link and flash a stock firmware using Odin with the "pit" file reading all the instrucion properly and see what's the result

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheJusticeBeaver:
Thx for the reply but It didn't help.

After trying a few more things I installed CWD instead of Philz touch recovery and it had a restore point so that fixed the problem for me :)
[HTC One SV] SnakeFist2005:
I have jelly bean 4.1.2 and in system/apps theres a velvet.apk with a blue icon with a white g in the middle of the blue icon does anyone know what it is used for on the htc one sv?
[HTC One SV] esp7:
it's the google search app. i removed it too and did not face any issues...
[HTC One SV] SnakeFist2005:
Oh ok thanks i just wanted to make sure it was not for talk to text as i use that to talk out txt messages while driving. I never have my hands on the phone while driving thats why i like that i can speak and it will type out the txt message for me.
[HTC One SV] michaelg117:
Actually it is not the Google search app it is the successor to project butter, it was introduce in kitkat how you installed it on android 4.1.2 probably because you installed the gel launcher

From My Amazon Kindle Fire HD 8.9 With CM11
[HTC One SV] H3RY:
In fact i also have that velvet.apk preinstalled on my 4.2.2 phone.
[HTC One SV] Krsmqn:
Velvet is google search. As seen at the top in the screenie... Why its called velvet is beyond me.

HTC K2_PLC_CL
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] xperia4me:
Hi

Well i have installed Gimlo v2.0. But i m unable to use timescape . . When i go to settings> xperia there is no option which was available earlier.. In stock ROM & in Gimlo v1.3 . I downloaded timescape frm playstore also then i rebooted my phone but im unable to find that in my SETTINGS> XPERIA .. Not in app drawer.. Not even in widgets.. Suggest me any solution.. Plz.. Or should i switch to Back Gimlo v1.3.

Plz Help !
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xantrk:
Hello all

I'm having artifacs on 4.2 rom as i mentioned

They are more like vsync issues like tearing. It happens usually when fps goes above 58. Happening more on popup windows like ringtone selector , also too frequently on twitter app while scrolling. Its really annoying things look messed up like half or one second then it goes normal and then happens again some after.

Anybody can help? Sory for my english
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] misterG33:
So .... i have cm 10.1 on my mini2 and i want to flash back the stock. What should i do before doing that?(because i don't wannna make something bad for my phone)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] xfim:
1. Get odin 307 (i use it and no flaws, atleast i havent experienced)

2.get stock rom from Sammobile

It should be like this s6500dxxld3 or so. Make sure its s6500 gm2

3. Start odin and put stock to pda column

4. Start

Dont do it yet. SOMEBODY PLEASE CONFIRM I WROTE ACCURATE INSTRUCTIONS thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] lowtax:
yes you are right...just make sure the firmware is right. Don't forget to enter to download mode before plug in the usb cable to pc.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Deleted member 5063461:
when you have to put the stock firmware you always wipe, especially if you're from 10.1 cm
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] xfim:
You somtimes dont have to wip (from some GB) and always from Android 4+
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ZaXpired:
#1 Get Your Stock , Odin

#2 Go to fownload mode " Vol. Down + Home + Power " .. Then Press " Up " to go.

Open Odin from your PC and click " PDA "

Choose your "ROM.md5" and be sure your mobile " S6500 , S6500D , T , L "

Now click Start and wait (:.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] miaad:
New to the mini 2 section, I wanted to ask the same question as OP.

Going to flash CM 10.1,

For that I need:

1. Root

2. CWM 6.0.3.3

and flash it right ?

For going back to stock I need:

1. My stock fw from sammobile, btw I saw a list, how can I find its my fw version, is it the PDA ?

2. Odin, ( the same used to attain root and CWM)

3. And follow the procedure above

Right ?

Thanks in advance ! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] thelastbad:
yeah,make sure about stock firmware

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and yeah on Odin, ( the same used to attain root and CWM
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] miaad:
The firmware is found by checking the baseband version right?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] thelastbad:
you put your model and country in sammobile you will have your own stock rom
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] miaad:
Couldn't find it, bought from Oman !
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] thelastbad:
GT-S6500d if your ****ry indonesia or oman if oman flash country near you like iraq or egypt or sudia arabia that support arabic language

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i think sudia arabia is near you
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ZaXpired:
send me your mobile model and baseband version (:
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