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[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
My hands are not shaking :)))))

Morning, guys :)

With all respect to Buzz and all the people making our dreams come true, why are my hands not shaking having H revision? :wink:

At least I wanna call for free :!: :D :D :D

RESPECT :!:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] shafa:
good evening if you ask me :)

My version G used to remember my selection on mic AGC, but H seems to forget about it.

also I feel like 2005 consumes more battery power comparing to SE.

Another annoying thing is the landscape mode after soft reset, any cure for that?

Shafa
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
Poor battery

You are right with the battery. XDA2 running WM2005 is really hungry, even when switched off :(
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Demon:
Does anybody know how we can make .mid files play? There in no album application, therefore midi files are not recognised.

Also when selecting a mid file within a contact for personal ringtone, it doesn't play polyphonicly. Is there any way to solve this issue?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] ramram:
http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=21391&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: My hands are not shaking :)))))

no problem, mate...

I still didn't get that 'hand shaking' stuff...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
Re: My hands are not shaking :)))))

"I still didn't GIVE that 'hand shaking' stuff..." would sound much better :D :D Never mind! :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Demon:
Thanks! However, midi files didn't play correctly as ringtones. I installed a newer file than the one you proposed on 6th page. I assign it with this post. After installing it, midi files will play perfectly as ringtones, that is polyphonically.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: My hands are not shaking :)))))

I thought, that you will bring us something... ???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
Re: My hands are not shaking :)))))

Sorry, mate :oops: I surely would if I only could!

But you have inspired me to try to ask someone. Hold on, it will take a while. :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] isk2005:
same problems , just like hkyoon

i am also suffering from same problem hkyoon , maybe i think if

we upgrade to H it might be solved.

can u tell me how to upgrade only the radio version

mine is 1.14.00

thankx :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: same problems , just like hkyoon

upgrade will not help.

it's a 'known' wm2k5 bug.

maybe some reg tweaks can do the trick..

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] TofClock:
Re: same problems , just like hkyoon

I don't have this problem :shock:

my sync icon is fully functionally :lol:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] JamesManios:
Really, I have this problem, I just assumed everyone did? I wonder if this is another Hardware keys type of problem where some people have it and some don't?

Won't it be ironic if people with working hardware keys, have disconnect on their activesync broken, and those with no hardware keys have working activesyncs?! :wink:

Ahh Microsoft :roll:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] awojtas:
keys etc

Let's start recording then!

HW Keys working: No

Sync/GPRS Icon working: No

Radio: 1.17

WM2005 ROM: 1.50g

Bootloader: unknown... don't want to hard reset :(

Sync icon stays looking "sync'd with USB" when i remove from cradle. I also have problems with GPRS - if i cancel connecting, it won't reconnect until soft-reset or flight mode off -> on -> off cycle.

Btw, my record key works when the phone is off. The camera key doesn't. Also, when I press both keys at once then the record key works okay. My contacts/calendar keys work 100% fine at all times. Sometimes the record key "sticks" - gets locked on recording and you have to end the task to stop it continuously recording.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] deank:
For what it's worth

Since I did almost all the possible upgrades for my T-Mobile MDA2 (starting w2k3 rom 1.6) I'd like to share that this last reflash with WinMobile 2005 just went fine straight from the start.

Prior to upgrade for couple of hours I managed to read all the instructions, warnings and anything I could find.

I started with:

* ActiveSync Developers Edition (v4.0.0 Build 4343)

* T-Mobile MDA2

* ROM 2.0.6

* RADIO 1.14

* BOOTLOADER (USB) 1.0.1

* PROTOCOL (Can't Remember)

* EXTENDED ROM (unhiden and unlocked)

* I downloaded RADIO 1.17

* I downloaded 1.50h ROM

* Correctly set operator IDs in both NK and RADIO .nbf files

Upgrade went first shot.

* I did hard-reset

* Cleared the settings in the menu as instructed in the upgrade options

* There I had a perfectly working Win2005

I had no problems neither with Hardware Buttons nor anything else. ActiveSync works just perfect (provided you're set your firewall correctly).

My OS is Windows 2000 Proffesional.

Thanks to you all!

Dean
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] lezink:
NO problem on 1.50g

I upgraded from 1.50f to 1.50g (build 14340) when Buzz released it (Thanx a lot !!!!:D) and, so far, I got no problems at all :

All buttons working flawlessly and in all appz(with integrated assignment, with vito buttonmapper as well and even with double launcher) - I formated storage & cleaned reg after each install - bootlaoder v1.06

my activesync icon disconnects very well, just like does the gprs one (radio 1.18 )

My only problem comes from desktop activesync i guess : i cannot sync anymore from the craddle since about 1 week (it worked perfectly before that), when I sync'd via bluetooth to another pc !!! gonna install 4328 instead of 4343 and see if any changes appear !!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] deank:
Re: NO problem on 1.50g

I'd suggest you this:

1) Remove your device from the cradle

2) Uninstall completely ActiveSync

3) Restart

4) Install ActiveSync 4343

5) Restart

6) Open ActiveSync and delete your old partnership

7) Put your device on the cradle

8) Wait until Windows finds the correct DeviceID ("Generic RNDIS PROTOTYPE--Remember to change idVendor", which will change to "Windows Mobile Device")

9) It should work fine.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Hs-Neo:
Hey guys!

The last times I've installed WM5 the consumation of Energy was quite high, so that the Battery was empty quite fast... So is there any Solution for this?!

Cya
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rictec:
sync stays and active sync is running

well my active sync stays on after i take it from the card

and if i kill it the icon stays there

but i found out if i go to connections and change something in

remote-ndis Host it stops

so maybe the great register master toenailed have a fix for it

it is possible to put the cf memory card to work?

thats my big big problem i must have it and without it i will sadly have to revert back to 2003se :-(

tanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Pyrofer:
Power Button issues

I have the "double tap for on / Hold for 1sec to turn on" issue.

I also noticed that it has sucky battery life in wm2k5....

I recently started double tapping to turn OFF the pda, Ie, turn off, then tap quickly once after its off. Then to turn on I just tap it quickly once as normal and its on!

I think its got better battery life now!

It seems that the battery is lasting longer when I double tap off instead of on. Can anyone with a multi meter-take actual current readings for on, off, off with double tap etc?

Id love some real current draw readings to confirm this!

Can anybody else try this and see if they see the same thing?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: Power Button issues

I'm working on app, which will show current and average battery drain...

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Kired:
any wonderful news :?:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] nukenuky:
I have the same problem like yours, sorry that I don't have any solution, but i'd like to have the tray with soft reset, rotation icons at the right bottom like your screenshot. Where i can get that? Thks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
See attatched file...

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To all WM5.0 users,

Has anyone been able to SEND (from XDA II to another device) a file via Bluetooth?

My case is that there's NO option to send a file via bluetooth (using built-in Explorer and Resco Explorer).

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] deank:
Turn your Bluetooth Radio On

Open Resco Explorer

(Check to see if in File/Options/General/Use IrDA via OBEX is unchecked. It should be UNchecked)

Choose a file

Hold and select "Send to >"

Choose "Infrared Recipient"

Resco will show:

To beam, select a device.

-------

Infrared ...... Align Ports

-------

And if your BT is ON and there are BT devices around you should see a BLUE radio Icon just beneath (Infrared)

Hope this helped :)

Dean
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
at last!

@deank

Thanks a lot man! You made my day!!!

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BTW, does anyone why BroadCom/WidComm bluetooth drivers doesn't work with WM5.0? Thanks!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] melvincz:
Re: at last!

Sending files via Bluetooth works using built-in File Explorer as well :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] nukenuky:
I've installed the 3 files, but the Running Program List shorcut points to \Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Running Programs.lnk which does not exist. Can you help how to fix that?

Thanks a lot
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
BOOTLOADER UPGRADE/DOWNGRADE

HAR HAR HAR...ANYBODY?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Pyrofer:
If there is a way to downgrade from 1.06 to 1.03 id LOVE to try it..

Im brave, or stupid... :p

I am almost sure it will fix my button issues and i guess would give us a good indication of how important the bootloader is to the camera button etc.

Is there a way to do it?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] steelorange:
Open TrayLaunch (i think it's in the Settings>Systems tab) tap and hold on the Running Programs then Delete/Remove.

@melvincz

Thanks for the info! :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xender:
Power button double tap - test yourself the difference

Hello Evbody,

Try this:

Power off by doubleclicking (with your keys locked in a config). You'll see that you can still power on with any button. Which means that we now have a choice of powering off with or without locking the keyboard in WM2005 8)

Cheers,

Grzegorz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Freshster:
Re: Power button double tap - test yourself the difference

Yes, mine does the same thing.

I have also noticed that turning on the bluetooth radio changes the "two tap" power button to a "one tap" power button.

Since I always have my bluetooth radio on, I never see the "two tap" power button problem. But I just verified that it does return to "two tap" if you disable the bluetooth radio.

BTW, I am running WM2005 1.50h and radio 1.18.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Pyrofer:
Well, when Bluetooth is on, indeed the doubletap "feature" goes away, but so does keylock!

If bluetooth is on, one press turns on, but one press of ANY button turns on. the keylock breaks.

same for everybody else?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Freshster:
Mine works

My keys stay locked even when my Bluetooth radio is on.

What radio stack are you using?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] asaikovs:
WM5 very bad battery life!!!

All,

Has anyone else found that WM5 has a tendendancy to sap ones battery really quicky?

I had to go back to WM2003SE and my battery is back to its old self.

Is this a bug or something??

I read that WM5 was meant to be 30% better for battery life.

any thoughts??
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] jenellej:
Widcom/Broadcom BT Stack?

Has anyone tried applying the same steps in making these BT Stacks work for WM2003SE with Magneto?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
Re: WM5 very bad battery life!!!

When you press the power button to turn off the xda2 it doesnt entirely turn off the device it only toggle the screen or put it on StandBy mode ...

That's why it eats lot of battery power compare to wm2003se ..

That answer the Idea of ''Pyrofer'' about the pressing the power button twice cause it does turn off your device if you press it twice.

Using also the ''psShutXP''

When you click the Lights OFF .. it turns off the device

But when you tap the TurnOFF .. it only toggle the screen(or Standby Mode).

Also if your device is totally off (Pressed the Power Button Twice) .. the record button or camera button will not work .. both if you have the working HW button or not.

---toe

===============================================

From: rhmartin

To: xda2jojo

Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 00:13

Subject: baliktad lahat (opposite)

Hi Jojo,

I tried to confirm the double tap functions in my device & got results w/c is kabaliktaran(opposite) ng lahat as posted.

I tested by pushing up the volume up/down button as an indicator if the device is off or just the sreen is off.

Test setup 1

Power button single tap;

Pressing volume button up a couple of seconds = no beep

Power button double tap:

Pressed volume button up = beep sound (indicating max volume)

Conclusion: single tap is REALLY device off & double tap is just screen off or standby or Light Off.

Test setup 2

Using psShutXP turn "off" by clicking:

Light Off: pressing volume button up = beep sound

Shutdown: pressing volume button = no beep sound

Conclusion: psShutXP Light Off = Screen Off & Shutdown = device off

Test setup 3

Using Wichita Recorder (similar to Resco Audio Recorder)

Double tap turns off screen but recording continues.

Single tap kills the device & stops the recording.

Therefore: single tap "kills" the device double tap just turns off the screen.

But whatever, still doesn't solve the fast battery drain problem it just proves that its better to single tap or use psShutXP Shutdown icon to power off the device rather than double tap or click light off w/c just "blanks" the screen.

In the lighter side, do you think i'm gonna hard reset again this weekend? Buzz routinely come's out with a new ROM every Friday!!!!!

Thank's for making our Hima "better" than it used to be... same goes to toe & Buzz.

Regards,

thanks rhmartin
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] joohan:
wm2k5 and battery time

Answer to xdajojo:

This is not correct according to my experience. I don't have bad battery life and the unit really switches off when the power button is pressed. Actually I can't switch the background light off with the power button anymore.

//Johan
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] buzz_lightyear:
Re: WM5 very bad battery life!!!

WOW, impressive!!!

didn't know that...

THANX

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] gotan:
same here

same here with me.. my battery life doesnt consume that fast..

if i unplug my xda wm2005 around 7am to 9pm my battery life is around 25% left...

estimate.. i talk around 2 hrs with around 40 to 50 msgs each day so that u guys would know if my bat is bad or its still normal..

tnx!

more power xdajojo, toenailed, buzz!!!!!!:)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Squuiid:
Is H better than G in ANY way? I can't see how. :shock:

Anyone?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rhmartin:
Re: WM5 very bad battery life!!!

Interesting finding!

But, my device can only be waken up/turned on with the record button but not with the camera button whether using pyrofer's "double tap" method or psShutXP method, also whether in "standby mode" or power off mode!? :?

Record button also turn on/wakes up device even if it's assigned with another program like Voice Command.

-rhmartin-
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rudegar:
alphabetic nummering of the versions by buzz mean that H is newer then G

and I will likely be the next version

what is changed i'm not sure but something is otherwise there would be no cause for inc the nr
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] yourmate:
I am also interested - seems to me I have more problems (I should rather say: "strange behaviour") than previously with g

maybe just a strange feeling...

about buttons:

with buttonlock ON:

a.) single tap off

- camera is NOT waking up device

- record is NOT waking up device

b.) double tap off

- camera is NOT waking up device

- record is DO waking up device

with buttonlock OFF:

a.) single tap off

- camera is NOT waking up device

- record is DO waking up device

b.) double tap off

- camera is NOT waking up device

- record is DO waking up device

when device is on both button work of course...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] JamesManios:
People with the battery problems might just be having bad signal issues? Typically when you hit off the device is supposed to suspend, though that might take a while, but it does power off the display. You can tell if your device is faking it is ‘off state’ by moving the volume slider up and listening for the beeping.

Anyways, when your signal goes low your device comes out of suspend (but doesn't power the display) and searches for a signal, (which takes more power)

I actually wrote an app to test that and logged the number of times it 'wakes up'. At work, (with VERY bad signal) it woke up over 350 times in the work day, at home (very good signal) over the night it only woke up twice.

For those with bad battery, can you try turning off the radio for a day and see how your battery life is, (if that’s an option for you)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Squuiid:
Yes, me too! That's why I was asking really. Thinking of going back to G :?

Some SMS messages disappear from my inbox after doing a soft reset. WTF :shock: (Didn't happen in G)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] yourmate:
I've done it already...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Piesang:
Hi there guys

Could you please e-mail me the files needed to upgrade my i-Mate Pocket PC / XDA II from Windows Mobile 2003 to 2005.

I'm not able to download anything from any forums. I'm behind some kind of a firewall at work.

I would really appreciate it if you guys can help me.

My e-mail address is: piesangj at gmail dot com

Thanks a million
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rictec:
ask aggain or praying to gods who knows

Gods of xda software please answer me

will my backpack memory cf card will work in buzzmobile2005 (explain Buzz=the god mobile2005=the miracle )

well my time is running out (as my vacations) and i will have to switch to 2003se (time traveling) if god doent put my work (in compact flash) accesible

wainting on my knees (i m paying what doyou think)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] gmerin:
sorry for quoting the whole thing, but (1) assuming the device is "faking" how do you stop or limit the amount of time the device wakes ans searches for a signal?

(2) where is your app to test the number of times the unit wakes to search for a signal? is it available?

(3) do the batteries typically just go bad overnight? today is the second time this week that I've returned home from work to find the back of my XDA II hot to the touch, and it has absolutely no juice at all. Normally I'd say the hot battery is a dead giveaway that one or more cells in the battery have shorted, but I'd like some "proof". Has anyone any experience connecting an XDA battery to a MAHA?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rico83:
JUST CHIIIIIIIIIIIIL

<rant>

ok ... its time for me to be a *****...

first off: this release of wm 2005 is an ALPHA BUILD!

expect many many bugs,

if your hardware buttons dont work then tuff titties...

if the battery doesnt last "as long" then... tuff titties!

be happy that u have 2005 running on your mobile...

wait for a newer BUILD and then the problems will be fixed!

its tha same with any software, anyone use the ALPHA of XP?! ****all worked in that... same with LONGHORN!

i have 2005 (AND HOW HAPPY AM I FOR HAVING THIS, - a crate of beer goes to buzz n co!) on my mobile, who cares about 2 silly buttons, and who cares about battery life.... use your charger!!

im sorry guys, i had to post this, im just fed up with the same problems being posted on and on and on and ****ing on!

be happy with what u got! wait a couple of months and better (fixes) shall come!

surely some folk agree with me here???

ps: no disrespect to ppl who r comlaining about the probs but just CHILL!

</rant=over>
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] alphaandomega:
Re: JUST CHIIIIIIIIIIIIL

Well, actually, H is an RTM build, but I'm with you on the *****in' thing. So the buttons don't work - big deal. You still need the stylous once you press of of the buttons anyway.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] xda2jojo:
buzz don't have probs with HW button BUT me and toe(downgrade his bootloader) still no working rec/cam button....We have almost the same bootloader version!

To all complaining about the HW button, this is my PATCH!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] victoradjei:
THAT'S GOOD ADVICE!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] evolvd.:
so far i've only run the G build but i have no problems with it at all. at least no major ones. only problem i have with it is when i leave it cradled connected with USB cable connected to pc, it gives an unusual IP/networking error but only when "usb connection" is disabled by activesync. it seems to be ok if it stays connected to activesnc

a little annoying but since bluetooth is working nicely i've unplugged the USB and use bluetooth to sync and leave it to charge with the cradle.

on that note i was wondering if there was PAN bluetooth profile in H build? I'd like to get networking over bluetooth. tried vpn via activesync but i think it only works the other way (ie activesync via vpn). anyone know how to get a network connection? If there is a PAN profile any way to extract it from H build.

Overall, i think G build seems most stable. i've had no probs other than the above mentioned. WM2005 rocks!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Duan:
Assign button to toggle Bltuetooth on/off

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know of a way to set up hardware buttons to toggle Bluetooth on/off or even better would be if the device could turn on BT when a call is comming in.

This would conserve precious battery life.

2005 Rocks! Thanx buzz!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] pschoch:
To switch Bluettoth... Buzz has written a tool for that. It's called SwitchIT. Search for it in the forum, you will find it there.

I have mapped a button to toggle BT on/off with that tool.

Cheers

Pat
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Duan:
Thanks pschoch and thanks to buzz for creating it!!! It works great!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] J10DA:
LOL...btw, can u downgrade u bootloader version?...my version 1.06, can't use camera & record button..can u downgrade bootloader version (1.06) to 1.03 ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Duan:
My buttons also doesn't work, it seems to be a mistery, but I consider it to be a minor inconvenience.

I have however found that the device still looses it's data when the battery completely runs flat... I thought that this was not supposed to happen.

Have I missed something?

Rom: 1.50h.00WWE

Radio 1.17.00

Protocol 1337.28

Bootloader: 1.06
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] istana_pulau_es:
HW Button

I took your suggestion and it works.. jojo :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] joohan:
Loosing data

Answer to Duan

Windows Mobile 5 supports persistent data but the Himalaya hardware isn't. Normally it would use flash ram to store programs and ordinary RAM to execute them, like your PC but Himalaya has only 32 MByte Flash RAM and 128 RAM. This last type of RAM has Buzz made a tweak to, so the WM5 makes a RAMdisk, a part of RAM that acts like flash RAM. That makes us able to use the system but we loose the persistent part of it since the ordinary RAM looses it content when switched off.

To sum it up, we use tomorrows operating system on yesterdays hardware.

//Johan