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[Galaxy Note II General] RomBox:
if the note3 has same or better battery performance and my note2 can get a good price I will upgrade...
[Galaxy Note II General] j_tag:
I dont see any need to upgrade from the note 2.. in my opinion the note 2 looks better than the note 3 and theres really no need for more ram and processor power with the apps/games out there right now.. and i hope they give us the new cool spen features with the update in october.. i actually cant wait to get the galaxy gear hooked up with my note2 :)
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
I think the Note 2 is an awesome phone and there is no NEED to upgrade to the Note 3.

This said my Note 2 is for sale and I'm getting the Note 3 ASAP. Just because it's fun.
[Galaxy Note II General] chatonveca:
Not a big deal for me, for that I have a Canon 5D Mark III :D
[Galaxy Note II General] suree_n:
If gnote3 support 2 Sims, It will be worth upgrafing for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] DubelBoom:
Not for me.

I'm upgrading to the Nexus 5. I want a Nexus. I'm tired of all the bullsh!t Samsung feeds us. Drivers, now problems with root (thanx to knox), drivers not release, color of the "metal" rings coming off, I don't like AMOLED displays..

Also, Nexus is much cheaper. Also, I hope KitKat will bring new design which I'm very waiting for. Only Sense is very beautiful today. TouchWiz is ok, not very nice buy not bad as it used to, Vanilla is slightly better but misses some thing. Not colorful enough.
[Galaxy Note II General] bayones:
Yes, if budget persist :)
[Galaxy Note II General] defenderko:
No until they make twice the lifetime of the battery.. all other stuf that n3 has.. they can keep it..
[Galaxy Note II General] JohnSteveDoe:
That;s nice for you, but I'd rather pay my month old Note 2 + $150-200 for a Note 3 that has results near enough (for non-professional consumers) to the Canon 5D, without dropping $3k.
[Galaxy Note II General] Super Chimp:
At least hardware wise & unlike previous Notes the Note 3 isn't just the GS4 in a larger form factor. I can see though that Note 2 owners would probably have to give it some thought if it was worth them individually moving to the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Well, if I can sell my GNote2 as good as I sold my Gnote1, I'll get it.

Otherwise I will stick with this beast which is awesome enough, for a while longer....

These gadgets are just too expensive....

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[Galaxy Note II General] ehsangolpesar12:
Today at Galaxy Studio ( Samsung exhibition at Berlin Alexander Platz) I spend 1 houre exploring Note 3 and comparing it to my Note 2. And I am convinced that with expected JB 4.3 upgrade; the difference between two handset is minimal for me . As I don't care for 13 MP camera and I hardly noticed the difference in screens.

Note 3 was not a surprise at all. Although it has a very nice flip cover with s view.
[Galaxy Note II General] hockeyfan:
In a word, YES. Without a doubt. My justifications for upgrading include:

1) Snapdragon 800 SoC with LTE - My carrier is AT&T (North America) and my current unlocked GN2 is only HSPA+ compatible, so it will be nice to finally get LTE speeds.

2) 3GB RAM - I am looking to run a full Linux install on my GN3, so the extra 1GB of memory will certainly help here, along with other multi-tasking needs.

3) 64GB onboard storage - Combined with the 64GB microSD, a total of 128GB storage space is pretty decent, considering I take a lot of pictures and videos.

4) MHL 2.0 - This is actually a big one for me, because it's very difficult to hook up my GN2 to my HDTV with its current HDMI adapter because of the need to have the power supply plugged in. The power outlet in the wall is very inaccessible. With MHL 2.0, the GN3 can output to the HDTV without the need for plugging in the separate power adapter.

5) USB 3.0 - I transfer a lot of files between my phone and my laptop (which has USB 3.0), so removing the USB 2.0 bottleneck will save a lot of time.

The screen and camera upgrades are nice, too, but those aren't too high on my list. As one of the previous posters indicated, I hope that the DPI change will not adversely affect any of my current applications (I run a few deprecated applications which will never be upgraded by the developer, so I have to hope they'll still work and look right on the GN3).

One area that does potentially concern me, however, is Samsung KNOX, which as I understand it, is derived from SELinux. This makes it much more difficult to root the phone, from what I've been reading on the S4 forums. Potentially not being able to root the GN3 may be a showstopper...
[Galaxy Note II General] bunnybash:
For me it all comes down to Root - if Knox screws everything up, there is no way in hell i will buy a phone I can't root and rom. If the 4.3 update includes Knox and that screws up root then I won't even update my Note 2 to 4.3.

But like +hockeyfan has said, USB 3.0 is awesome, MHL 2 is awesome and 64Gb + 64Gb card = totally usable as a laptop replacement if they come out with a smart dock like the Note 2 smart dock.

Actually the smart dock possibilities are HUGE with 3GB of RAM - if they allow awesome multi window support etc. Will be interesting if someone can replicate the Spen functionality with a mouse for the smart docks.

Anyways all that to say that without hearing more about the effect of Knox - I may not even update my Note 2 to 4.3!!!
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
IMO its not worth it specially the software it 95% the same as note 2 :eek:

but there is good thing to consider buying it :

it has better design - lighter - thinner - 1080p display - the ****ing hyper glaze finely gone - 32GB version

things i don't like :

no ****ing ois ( for real Samsung :eek::eek: ) - probably it will have 3GB of bloatwares so the 3GB ram will make no noticeable different from N2 - i think the 3200 battery will not be good for those beast SoC's ( Exynos 5420 or Snap 800 ) - no big changes on the software
[Galaxy Note II General] _delice_doluca_:
Since Samsung will never release sources on public probably your Linux (or CM if any or PA or any ROM that is not TouchWiz) will have problems on MHL and HDMi TVs.
[Galaxy Note II General] hockeyfan:
That's a good point, and a definite bummer, if true. At this point, I envision the Linux install just acting as a LAMP server, but I would like to eventually be able to dock the GN3 to my HDTV in order to fully replace my laptop. We'll have to wait and see, I suppose...
[Galaxy Note II General] timmyk101:
You haven't tried bean stalk 4.22 ultimate edition then

;)
[Galaxy Note II General] TrompKramer:
Ordered the note3 today.

Just because i love smartphones.

(And the note3 is definetly one to love.)

Sent from my hawkish extreme note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Yep...is good to be rich ....:laugh:

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[Galaxy Note II General] _delice_doluca_:
In our case, software is a driver, hardware is a car.. In history we can find victories of the cars which are not the highest when it comes to horse power but there is no victory of a bad driver...

Software matters.. Since the same Google Market of 2014 (and probably 2015 too) rules both to Moto X with dual core and the Note 3 with octa core then Note 3 is overkill on with tomorrow's hardware and yesterday's software...
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Never give up..

As someone wrote, look at the bean stalk 4.22 ultimate rom or the latest Slim Bean rom for the Note 2. Pretty darn good

Let's no be so dramatic and let's stay on-topic

This thread is just about discussing if upgrading from the GNote2 to the GNote3 really worth it and how ....

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[Galaxy Note II General] CLARiiON:
Agree. I will add a few points here:

1. 1080P 60FPS video recording.

2. Increased batterylife.

3. High CRI LED flash.

4. Better audio (not sure how much benefit we will notice)
[Galaxy Note II General] mjrshark:
Note 3 is upgrade for who like to change , Upgrade for who have much money , good for someone didnt have note 2 , maybe from Note 1 or S3 yeah good to go

Note 3 is cool and for sure beats Note 2 , but lets wait Note 2 update and apps port , they will get too close to each other , why would Samsung postpone updating note 2 !?!?!?
[Galaxy Note II General] turilo:
I agree but software ports never run the same on other devices, also hardware wise the note 3 is up there. I'll be buying it full out because I can :D so don't matter to me
[Galaxy Note II General] jt404:
Seems more like a tweek for a new model year (like in cars) as opposed to a complete redesign that I have to have. Based on what I've heard thus far, I'd still feel current with my GNote2.
[Galaxy Note II General] ipsuvedi:
+1

I am currentlynot a note 2 user but i am thinking to buy note 3 ....

Everything he said in this quote is correct & key points
[Galaxy Note II General] julzz:
Design is like SGS 2 it is not bad SGS 2 is still great phone but, nothing new.

Camera 13Mpx, no big deal, i had 12Mpx on my Nokia N8 3 years ago.

Speed up processor and more RAM ok but, it is not doubled compare to NOTE 2.

The worst thing is that it will be no 4.3 update. Because if Samsung roll it two phones will be very close.

I think it is ok to skip Note 3 upgarde, go straight to Note 4.

Note 3 is Great for NEW NOTE SERIES USERS...... and despite all ill buy it.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...nd-the-Samsung-Galaxy-Gear-smartwatch_id47147

This should help users in making decision. Good detailed handson.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
Cool that you can finally use S pen on note 3 to operate capacitive buttons.
[Galaxy Note II General] zephr5:
+1 exactly what I was thinking. I just want my developer to upgrade my Moon Rom.
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
I won't be upgrading, at least not until sometime next year. While there is no question that it's an improved device I can't really see the point when I'm already satisfied with the phone I have. Once prices drop a little I'll give it some thought but for now the Note 2 provides everything I need.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] kaibosh99:
The screen on the N3 isn't reason enough to upgrade, and until there are games out that choke the N2 there is no reason to upgrade. If we were stuck on stock Sammy roms then it would start getting stale, but ProBam/Nova/Devil makes the N2 a pretty sweet piece of hardware.

I was hoping for a bigger screen on the N3, even at the cost of form factor. There is still room for an EDC phablet smaller than an N7.
[Galaxy Note II General] kaibosh99:
Until the Note 2 is choking on new games, there is no point in upgrading. All the manufacturers are jumping on 1080p long before they have next gen battery hardware or power management, you can't tell me a Note 3 isn't going to drink juice. Do we know the nitty gritty of the GPU? That is the one bottleneck of the Note 2 that will start being hard to hide.

I was hoping for a 6.1" screen, even at the cost of a bigger form factor. There is still elbow room in daily carry phablet territory smaller than a Nexus 7.
[Galaxy Note II General] qazibasit:
There was no big change b/w note1 and note2 but if we compare note2 with note3 there is a hell lot of difference and a complete change in the 2 devices. So when note2 came i didnt felt the need to upgrade. There form factor was the same yes there was a bit performance diff i noted in my sis's note 2. But now when i am looking at the note3 reviews and its images i am getting the feeling that its worth and upgrade from both note1 and note2. But for those happy with their note 2 and for those who can wait long for the updates yes they still can keep their phones for a year more or 2.

Its always an individual preference if the device needs an upgrade but yes what is acceptable is they have further enhanced the class of note series. My fingers were crossed when lg g2 and sony honami rumors came. I was thinking how will samsung keep up and once again they did it.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Tip for new users

Not so fast ......

If there are any New users reading this, meaning, the ones that are going to buy a GNote for the first time, here's a good tip ( and you can thank me for that) :

Once the selling of the GNote3 warms up, the prices of the excellent GNote2 will drop even more..

So new users ( specially on a short budget) will have 2 choices:

1) Go for the latest state-of-the-art high-end device such as the Note 3 but pay good buck for it or...

2) Go for the much cheaper but nevertheless high-end very good phone, the Note 2 which still rocks ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Another tip

This time for the GNote2 users:

If your are thinking to first sell your GNote2 in order to buy the GNote3, this is the time, meaning, right now!

If you wait too long, you won't be able to sell it for a good price, since the price of a new one will drop even more, systematically and accordingly to the success of its sucessor ...

:good:
[Galaxy Note II General] Castellano2:
LOL. Best joke ever.
[Galaxy Note II General] elevul:
Small screen, PATHETIC battery, and a lot of crap nobody cares about.

Guess I'm gonna keep my N7000 for a long time still...
[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
but we have to say that there is as far as I remember NO SINGLE phone device with a larger battery (tablets with phone functionality dont count)
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
GNote3 screen is bigger than the GNote2's and way bigger the GNote1's.

And waaayy less bulky, smaller and thinner phone.

Battery is way more powerfull than the GNote1's

Software, specially what multi-tasking and s-pen is concerned is waaayy better and more exciting than 'the GNote1

Not to mention that annoying over saturated screen and black clipping on dark videos on the GNote 1.

So..what the heck are you talking about?

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[Galaxy Note II General] My1xT:
Mathematically speaking, Note 2 screen not way bigger than Note 1 they changed aspect ratio to 16:9 (I like it, personally) from 16:10, so the screen area is not that much bigger (if note 2 would have kept the 5.3 inches and just changed the aspect ration the screen would be smaller, so in fact the 0.2 inch increase in the diagonal for Note 3 have more impact on the screen size than the +0.2 ines on Note 2...

I didnt have the Note 1 but I have my Note 2's screen on the setting with most saturation, because it is more colorful and not so gloomy as LCDs...
[Galaxy Note II General] elevul:
It's not way bigger, it's only 0.2" bigger than the Note 2. With the 6.3" Mega we were all expecting a 6.3" Galaxy Note, with a 4ah+ battery. Yet the Note3 has only a 0.2" bigger screen, 0.1ah bigger battery and barely any other difference from the Note2...

0.7ah bigger battery, fat difference... The first custom battery I can find on google is 5ah+...

I don't give a damn about Samsung's ****ty bloated software. The first thing I'd do would be installing Cyano/Slimbean...

Real facts. What are YOU talking about?
[Galaxy Note II General] Formhault:
Adreno 330, which is 50% better than the Adreno 320 (which is in the Galaxy S4 and still performs pretty good). So, the CPU + GPU are just awesome.

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I had the Note 1. It was great. Then I switched to the Note 2, simply because I wanted better battery life & performance (+ the screen is a bit better, in terms of colors and black clipping, you know).

Now, I am dissapointed with my Note 2. Why? Several reasons :

- poor screen performance (let's face it, this Super AMOLED isn't as good as a S-LCD, even the old, S-LCD2) + pixelation (720p on a 5.5" screen isn't really optimal).

- Exynos... it sucks. Qualcomm is so much more better.

- 1.6 GHz quad core processor... and it doesn't seem to perform twice as good as the 1.4 GHz dual core processor the Note 1 had :)

So yeah, I'd switch to the Note 3.

- Snapdragon 800 + Adreno 330 is a BEAST.

- 1080p on a 5.7" screen is great.

- 3 GB of RAM... I don't know - 2 GB seem enough if you ask me.

- 13 MP camera... well, it's better than the 8 MP camera the Note 2 has, but I doubt it's a hell of a change :)

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Screw TouchWiz. Why are you even talking about the software? It's gonna be a Snapdragon device, so CyanogenMod and other AOSP based ROMs will work on it perfectly.
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
Let me try narrowing it down for you:

What you mean with PATHETIC battery?

The GNote2 have the best battery performance from all high-end smartphones e the GNote3 battery performance is expected to be even better, so what's pathetic about that?

I wrote it's way bigger than the GNote1, since you brought that already pre-historical phone into this discussion.

And what you mean with "we all were expecting a 6.3" Note"? Talk for yourself buddy. The majority of the users think that 5.7 inch is big enough, specially now that the phone got lighter, thinner, less bulky...

Again talk for yourself.

Many GNote2 users, including many CM/AOSP fans, cannot resist latest Samsung gimmicks, such as airflow, multi-windows and some s-pen functionality.

That's why many developers are trying to build and optimize hybrid roms and dual-boot kernels (I am talking about GNote2 development here)

Once you root your phone, remove all that bloat you want/can, keep what you like, install stuff like Simplistic Framework, Xposed framework, Hybrid roms etc etc ( All the stuff you don't know because you don't own a GNote2) and have fun.

And I know what I am talking about because I owned the GNote1 and was very happy running SlimBean or Asylum roms in it..

But the Gnotes 2 and 3 are a different ball game . And unlike you, I know what I am talking about because I tried all kind of CM/AOSP based roms on my GNote2 and exchange information with many people in that community.

I can go on and on, but it doesn't matter really...

I respect your opinion, just totally disagree with it

And so you know, I am thinking about keeping my GNote2 , so, probably not moving on to the GNote3...

But there is nothing pathetic and crappy about the GNote3

Let's agree to disagree

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[Galaxy Note II General] marcowang:
Note3 is too much better than Note2(screen/camera/size&weight/usb3.0/ir remote/performance....),

so I will get it asap.
[Galaxy Note II General] iPTPenguin:
If I were to buy a new phone right now I'd go for the Note 3, definitely!

However, my Note 2 still gets things done quickly and I have 0 problems with it, which is why I am sticking with it until it breaks or until the Note 4 comes out. One thing is for sure though, I'm never switching away from the Note series!
[Galaxy Note II General] betoNL:
I know where you are going Pall ;)

But finance is a pertinent and relevant issue.

I was happy with my GNote1, but there was some issues ( as you know), but I sold it for 350 euros and got me a GNote2 for 514 euros..so not that painfull in my wallet.

But starting price of the GNote3 seems taht is going to be way higher than the GNote2's was.

And that's relevant...specially when I see how good my GNote2 is right now..

Only if I was a rich man like you :laugh:

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[Galaxy Note II General] Formhault:
I sold my GNote 1 for 200€ (and I bought a lot of cases for it - 5, but sold one in the meantime). It was in perfect condition, with screen protectors changed every couple of months. Initially, I bought it for 320€ last summer.

Got a GNote 2 for 313€ (aesthetics mark 9/10 - dented in a corner, nothing big, but could hurt in case of a resale).

I'm not that rich. I'm not rich at all. I'd sell my Note 2 and buy something else - the next Nexus, perhaps, or the Galaxy S4 (although I don't REALLY want the S4). But so far, I'm pleased enough with my Note 2 - at least enough in order to NOT sell it and buy something else. I'd go for the One, but the screen is too small and I can't stand those buttons. I'd go for the S4, but I can't stand the idea that that AMOLED will fail to deliver. I'd go for the Sony's but I can't stand the TFTs. God dammit, I guess I'd end up buying the Note 3 afterall :silly: :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
This is a complete nonsense, I had the Note one for eight months and now the Note II for the last one year and let me tell you the difference is like day and night.
[Galaxy Note II General] starche_old:
Repost from other topic.

Same here. To be honest I'm kinda disappointed. Nothing really new, innovative and exciting, nothing to stay out of the crowd. That remind me one "fruit" company's "new" devices and that's really sucks that Samsung decided to go that way. Thus - no reason for me personally to upgrade. And keeping in mind Samsung's nasty habit not to open source code, being very late with updates and stop updating devices very early... I'm not really sure my next phone gonna Samsung one at all...

And now Samsung decided to lock bootloader. Hello Moto... Looks Samsung doesn't want to learn on some1 else mistakes and that is not really smart in my mind. Hey, leave Moto's rake alone or it will hurt you for sure.

My 2 cents, just saying.

Sent from SGH-i317m
[Galaxy Note II General] Tubgirl:
No wireless charging on the Note3 ?
[Galaxy Note II General] Sandata:
Why do people says "nah, not worth it, ill stick to note2, bad design, etc.,".. is it because they just bought the note2 last month/week & can't afford an upgrade til next year?
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
What do you gain from attempting to insult a stranger's financial situation? That's just internet-anonymity-bravado. Didn't even need to be said.

Geez.
[Galaxy Note II General] stateit:
Well, my Note 2, cases, battery charger and spare battery are going on eBay when the Note 3 lands in the UK.

I prefer the look of the Note 3.

That's enough for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] starche_old:
That's not really nice to other people, dude. And yes, I pre-order my note 2 well before it show up in the shop,I think it was early October last year.

I forgot to mention fake leather on the back. But that's too funny to comment :D

Sent from SGH-i317m
[Galaxy Note II General] wtr_dhd:
You haven't looked good enough then. Slimbean didn't crash even once in the 3 weeks I'm using it and my batterylife is even better than a crappy TW rom, and everything works perfectly fine with no bugs, at least not with my use.
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I'll stick with my Note 2...On Note III i like display the most, and besides that i think 2.3 GHz is too much :D

P.S. New here..Hi all :)
[Galaxy Note II General] ceftriaxone:
Promised to my girlfriend that I will keep one phone for at least one year (bought N2 in February)...

Now, I am eating my shorts :)

I love my N2, but the thing that impresses me most are dimensions of N3. I am short, and I have to admit that I would prefer smaller dimensions. Other new things are great, but still not enough for buying.

Will see soon. For now, staying with N2. Don't want to spend 300euros on changing phones right now.
[Galaxy Note II General] hockeyfan:
I must have missed this. What exactly do you mean by this? Does it mean you can put the S Pen back into its holder, regardless of whether it's backwards or not? With the GN2, you can only put back the S Pen one way (e.g., the Samsung logo on the S Pen on top). If you twisted it even slightly prior to re-insertion, it would get stuck, forcing you to straighten it before putting it in.