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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] niconicostory:
I've used the s3 and s4,

The s4 is only totally worth the money if you root it plus tweak it (you can get many tweaked roms from development sections).

the original stocks is absolutely disappointing,

after tweaking around with roms,

i can get double the battery lifespan or even more.

Other disappointments includes useless bloatwares,

and also the free space samsung have wasted on those bloatwares and roms.

Therefore, an s4 is definitely a disappointment to the average user that doesnt do anything to pimp his/her phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
You are absolutely wright.

But with new Knox FW versions, we have to be very careful if we want to retain warranty=no custom ROM, no custom kernel, only root might work...

So, generally S4 is not worth the money...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darixtorento:
im very disappointed buying s4:

*towchwiz is crappy, and stupid. I thought the problem had been already fixed, but I was wrong. the device freezes from time to time although "the huge 8 cores" (which are not good at all) and although the 2gb of ram.. I mean danm.. what the hell the device needs in order to stop freezing? 8gb or ram, maybe 20cores running at 3ghz?!

I was thinking there would not be any space problems, memory ram problems and freezing problems. but I was wrong and there are A LOT ! (i must switch rom)

*not enough internal storage.. only around 9gb out of 16gb.. yeah I know I already bought sd card but I still doesnt like the limit in the internal storage, which is almost full all the time.

*bugs, crashes, freezes, camera delays are just a few parts of the daily huge via the "huge phone" (just a lie)

*no enough roms, kernels. no support at XDA

*releasing 2 international versions for 1 device (i9500 i9505) is a stupid move to do. why not just releasing 1 international version?! it makes Confusion and xda support and world wide support are damaged.

*there is no even an exact date when Android 4.3 will be released and it takes too fu___ long. why cant they just write down a simple date like apple?

*it takes too long for android 4.3 to arrive. same thing will be with android 4.4

*there are no even leaked versions for android 4.3, unlike the i9505 who has.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
Well HTC One international just got 4.3 update and I am not even sure it's official OTA release so you can't much complain about 4.3 being late on S4,it will be surely out by the end of this month.

Also as many mentioned already and it was based on a beta 4.3,most of the bugs and lags are ironed out with 4.3

Perhaps LG G2 is a good choice for you but it will be difficult to see 4.3 on G2 before S4 and its camera is much slower than S4
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vzzoli:
Ahh f***ing annoying issue, what I experienced today morning. The phone was on charger whole night. At morning, i wake up, but

the phone isn't. The notification LED was blinking, and the phone wasn't freeze, but i couldn't wake the screen up. The most annoying

thing: When I tried to call the S4 from my private phone, I heard in the private phone's speaker it is ringing, but the S4 doesn't

show anything. I had to pull out and put back the battery to restart. And when I restarted it, the phone didn't show the missed call. It remembers me the old HTC Windows mobiles. Those did the same.

Fantastic. Especially because I used the S4 for company phone, and i have night duty. I hope they fix this issue with the 4.3, else i sell it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michyprima:
I'm disappointed because mine (I9505) is always warm, even while just browsing. I hate that.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smep:
Totally exaggerating ! :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darixtorento:
im totally not.

maybe for you.. but:

1. why cant samsung give a proper release date like other companies do? why we always have to guess a release date for an update?

2. releasing 2 international versions may have a few benefits. but if you like it or not- its a huge disadvantage for the world-wide community.

(see XDA i9500 vs i9505 as an example).

3. internal storage almost full is actually a huge disadvantage as well. please keep in mind that sd card is not a solution for everything. tons of users do not want to root there devices so they cant do a lot with external sd card (games and more)

having almost full internal storage is not good at all.

4. yes, towchwiz is crappy and very slow.

for example, I had to root my device and switch rom, because it was too laggy and the device freezes from time to time.

why samsung goes that way? not all the people are interested of switching roms and stuff.

I still like my device and its very good. but all the problems ive mentioned above, are very disappointed and i though samsung would have already fixed all those problems.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegetaleb:
You my friend should buy an iphone 5S,if you don't like the idea of roms and root
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewerthon_jp:
i'm disapointed, the s4 don't worth the money. i had a s3 and it was a great cost benefit smartphone.

samsung is anoying the clients/developers with exynos, and now with that knox thing...sob....i'll buy a nexus next time, maybe when nexus 5 comes to my country! samsung nevermore!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unleashedgamer:
Very annoyed about the touchwiz ui, bloatware and other dumb restricitions.

touchwiz maybe a matter of taste for everyone itself, but i find it very inconvenient. id rather stick with the standard launcher...

we dont have to talk about the trillion gbs of bloatware... you get a 16 gb device and have just 7 gb useable. im thinkin to myself, why did i idiot dont buy the 8gb model? also, what the hack are those restrictions? No apps on lockscreen, ugly widget controls in lockscreen, removed service mode and whatelse. one thing i know, i will never falls for this kind of stuff again. Next time i buy a smartphone, i will surely check this forum up and down about it, to see what the device is offering and whatnot. you cant really believe official datasheets tho.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
No, it is not matter of someones personal taste or habit... This phone should be almost perfect without root in all areas, considering its price and reputation.

And with Knox, you can't root it any more, not to mention custom roms and recoveries... Other vice, probably no warranty, depends of country!

So, I think we should consider another device for sure.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darixtorento:
you my friend, should shut up. it seems your not smart at all...

its not 'black/ white'. I dont like iphone/ ios.

but android is not only for roor/ rom.

I like switching roms, ive never said i didnt like it..

i was talking generally

because most of the customers, up to 80% do not switch roms..

if you think android and all the devices running android are for ONLY roms and all those stuff you totally dont know what you are talking about.

its a fact- most of the customers does not even change the system

(you my friend has serious reading and understanding problems..)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jonny:
Ok guys, I'm seeing a few borderline posts here... whilst I don't mind you lot having an argument or discussion, please do it without the insults.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chapruk:
i love my S4 before KNOX smashed it!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tidsoptimist:
+1 with the added stuff with locking the phones to region-cr-p comeing in the updates just like the Note 3..

And I somewhat hoped we would be able to simply transform it to the google version or at least get faster updates due to it being similar to the google version. =/

Sadly now im prob going for a N5.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hoggles:
After nearly 6 months with my S4... the only thing I think was a horrible design choice (aside from TW, but I use Nova), is the speaker location.

Whoever at Sammy HQ, said to themselves...."lets put the speaker on the bottom of the phone, where its muffled 99% of time".....should be fired. Absolutely horrible location.

Also, at the very least if they put it on the bottom, they could have given us two of those speakers for stereo.

Time for Sammy to start thinking about sound & speaker placement. Im perfectly happy with their update schedule.

Cheers!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mittaa:
Totally agree.

Samsung is turning into kind of Apple´ish company where money is God :eek:

Only reason for me to root is to get rid of all this Samsung bloatware, making nandroid backup and because I like freedom to make choices of my own.

I still have 0x0 but stucked with 4.2.2 until some smart Dev find a proper solution.

KNOX might be a good idea for companies, police, military and people with the need of a high level of security, but Samsung shouldn't block users with other needs!

Why not make a special developer version KNOX free and pre-rooted for the playful ones?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smep:
Samsung is tired from some who keep pushing unsupported roms into thier GT-I950s purposely because they have scratches or any visual damage forcing to break it, then after come back asking for replacement

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aitch:
What is Knox and why is it so bad?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mittaa:
True, but I think that's a minority and they will continue playing around KNOX or NO-KNOX.

I like TW and would like to have a KNOX free, rooted S4 ... If I break my piece of HW I'ill take the consequences.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arashi:
Bought i9505 and NOT i9500 as piece of hardware because of "not exynos" and therefore EXISTING Cyanogenmod support (; Just went to it's forums on xda and checked things before buying. Have i9300, n7100. Know about Codeworkx and no more exynos in CM for newer devices because of Samsung software politics.

Not buying GNEXes ONLY because no external sd card support. Where goes my anime ongoings, downloaded directly on phone through torrents and music in flacks?

And I do not like TW's not understandable bloatware, country specific adware and vintage looks . CM 10.2 has no some specific samsung neats like IR support and floating touch but it has for example support of sd formatted to ext4, private mode for apps, root from the box, has no bloatware, all customisation that I need and native neat look.

Therefore I am for example is not flashaholic - I simply choosed CM as phone OS and wisely changing hardware for it (like with desktops)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a67q:
After 6 months of having this s*itty overpriced phone this is why I'm disappointed:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simonna:
Did you try another camera app? Does this problem happens constantly?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttk81:
+1
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shan89:
Why don't you guys simply switch for HTC One , it's pretty much same price , maybe few bucks extra but phone in overall package is much better.. i'm not saying s4 sux far from it but for the things you guys complain none of them exist with HTC One.

Speakers - Much better placement , better quality and louder + stereo

Software - lagfree and fast as hell + sense 5.5 brought many new features + 4.3 has been out for 2 months already for us who root.

Build quality - much better

Design - much better

Storage - 32gb ( 25.4 accesible ) or dev edition with 64

Software development roms / kernels - are much more advanced then on s4

Camera is better @ night but not in daylight tho it's pretty good in daylight as well if your primary things you picture are ppl and closer objects , not so good for cropping as well if anyone cares for that.

Video recording and sound is also much better

Battery life pretty much the same as on s4

And device doesn't get hot while normal usage , only gets warm when gaming for longer period of time like 3-4hrs non stop

For those who are really advanced you can use dual boot and use any 2 roms ( cm / sense , or cm / aosp doesn't matter )

Also with S-OFF you can convert into fully google edition and receive OTA-s from google directly , if not you can always flash GPE roms.

So the way i see it you guys pretty much complain about this things on S4 while one has them all working perfectly fine.

Please note i'm not comparing the two just solving issues for those who have them with s4 personally.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] naset:
Camera sux on low light..pink,purple,red tint..90% htc one have that problem..I sold my htc one for s4..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zubairamd:
Disappointed because I fell for that useless features like s-pause... don't like mentioning them as they don't work most of the time... They should have focused on software development rather than adding more bloatware and useless "s" stuff.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jjnhl68:
Yes, but One>>S4 with Knox crap
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shan89:
That only some users have , I personally don't have that and I've changed every firmware / base since 4.1.2 up to 4.3 sense 5.5 never had this issue , we also got flash light assist with sense 5.5 so camera is true killer @ night especially with flash. Anyway you should've exchanged your 1st one , there's also some info that HTC is working on this to fix it via firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btemtd:
All I can say is 4.3 update has really brought the real power of the s4.. this is how they should of released the phone. I am honestly back in love with this phone. It's literally sooooo buttery smooth now .. even when going into the widgets drawer that famous 2 sec startup jerk???... GONE . Veryyyyyy good firmware update
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adi90004:
me, touchwiz, working slow and the 8 cores will never work together.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] go0gl3:
the fact that when I'm watching things the phone is normally flat on the table so sound is really muffled :(

---------- Post added at 04:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:41 PM ----------

That's assuming you have the octacore? and you could always root and use a custom rom :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] concesca:
battery drain i think
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] a67q:
It could not be worse than this. After 4.3 update my phone is getting more 'report' messages

than before. Terrible.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robogo1982:
The invincible, indestructible super-durable Gorilla Glass 3 on my phone has 2 scratches.

Thoroughly dissapointed.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gleybert:
knox lixo Sony xperia z1 Brasil versão
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Schnedi:
i will change it asap. will buy the Nexus 5 or Xiaomi Mi3. coming from iOS, TW is f***ing slow!!

changed the ROM and now it's fast but i want to have fast official updates and want to enjoy the real android experience.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] linemeks:
Well , The problem often found in my S4 is Heat and Battery life.. and some games are weird (Ex. Games by Kairosoft can't use High graphics..)

Also I got this for free , Not paid
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackent:
i have beeen using i9500 for last 4 months and i am quite happy with it. No regret at all. But my battery had a defect and lasts only 30 minutes with full charge. I have sent it for replace.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robogo1982:
I got fed up with battery life, screen autobrightness issues, random freezes and reboots even on stock versions that I lost my patience, sold my I9505 and went for an LG G2. Don't think I'll be coming back soon, especially now with knox and everything.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danvdh:
Google edition 4.3 is you're friend
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eirik_smo:
In general I like the phone, especially after installing 4.4 Google Edition-rom.

The only two things I don't like is the cheap feeling of the removable back panel, it gets scratches fast and creaks.

The other is the 1 mm thick silver line just around the gorilla glass, it chips very easily and reveals the white underlay plastic.

But both problems can be forgotten by simply using a cover. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C B S:
Agreed, back panel gets scratches fast and fragile, also the camera is really not protected.

And what i don't really like is the model is not so premium since it has a premium price :silly: :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eSSeMM:
Since the early days of Android this is the first non-nexus phone that I have used day-to-day. I have a number of Samsung tablets and I dislike the Samsung bloatware crap on them .... I only bought the S4 because I thought that it would be easy to install a Nexus rom from the i9505G onto it.

Suppose my only disappointment is that I can't take a pure i9505G rom and load it onto the phone.

I tried installing the latest 4.4 i9505G rom but had some issues that forced me to go back to a 4.3 rom.

Expect this will be the last Samsung phone that I will but.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JuniorGG:
I am disappointed because of the pre-installed bloatware in conjunction with that KNOX thing introduced AFTER the phone was marketed that does not allow getting rid of such bloatware unless you like the idea of potentially voiding the phone's warranty.

I seriously doubt I will buy another Samsung phone next time.

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rikxzdjz:
OverHeat and Battery Drains so fast :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] idroid2324:
disappointed because it went to service centre because of USB port problem within 3 weeks of use and the service centre people didn't replace it. :( Didn't expect it to be so fragile.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TCMuffin:
WiFi...WiFi...WiFi :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SiMeee:
Crapware, knox, battery issues (i have swollen battery, ordered new one). I have i9505. Selling soon for G2.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chilenoneto:
Not disappointed but...

One thing that really annoys me, is the heating problem.... if I get to play a lot or do any processor/GPU intensive app the phone goes very hot, and probably that lowers the lifetime of this otherwise perfect device,...

I know there may be a fix, but as I am a very lazy man, probably I will just adjust my usage to avoid this issue :D:D:D

Using the device at stock 4.3 rom (bloated and all :D )
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] btmz:
the only thing I have to say is 0x0.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marko_s91:
Same here :D

Sent from my S4
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erid2thed:
Actually - the S4 has "real" / "true" aosp (i9505g)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darknes4o:
Not disappointed in anyway actualy.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] towg2000:
The obvious and much commented on disadvantages are the build quality and tackiness of the TW UI.

Coming from an iPhone 5 the s4 is a significant let down as far as a 'premium handset experience' goes.

I was totally fed up of the iPhones lack of screen estate though so didnt have much of a choice. I'd already had a HTC One so thought I'd try something different.

I'll stick with the s4 till next September but when the bigger iPhone comes out its going on Gumtree ASAP.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PantsDownJedi:
I'm not dissapointed with the phone. I'm dissapointed with Samsung. I went from the S 2 to the S 4. I think its self explanatory, all the warranty issues and especially in my locale where its not necissarily even legal but people are still report being told that they are by Samsung.

There was a short period between the S 2 and the S 4 that I had a Motorola RAZR HD and my gripe there was the warranty voiding but additionally the tracking and tracking of what ROMs specifically people had on their phones. In retrospect, at least Motorola was honest and up front about it. The warranty agreement was part of the literature about the phone on paper even and not just on a warranty card or the long string of crap you're meant to read when setting up a device. I feel Samsung has been devious with people like us who they know full well are going to flash new firmwares but don't tell us up front that its going to blow a binary fuse that voids things.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
I'm not at all disappointed with my S4. Carrier unlocked, LTE, stock ROM is stock Android, unlocked bootloader, gorgeous screen, thin form factor that fits nice in my pocket, good hardware, and fast as anything. I just wish it was available in black.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pilot35:
I have been using it for weeks now and I have no regrets buying it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] planetf1:
I don't have much to complain about - sure there's a few things (below) I'd change, but it's my favourite phone to date.

I've stuck to stock roms as generally they work well. The camera's good. and the 2GB ram keeps the phone responsive. The touchscreen and display are great. I've used Nova and GEL but went back to touchwiz launcher.

I do wish samsung would allow more of their added bloatware to be disabled (it keeps improving, but there's still plenty of things that can't), and of course wish base OS updates were quicker.

KNOX is annoying but only because it's actually iMO a very good approach to support BYOD schemes. It's just a shame it's not (yet) reversible. But it makes sense for samsung to push into the enterprise market.

battery issues are almost always app related, and more a general android issue IMO
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ice.modding:
Why!? ?

ice tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Diamond008:
Mellow Phone

Interesting topic. However, I feel it will take time to properly ascertain the sgs4's true viability. The device is relatively new and the technological possibilities are endless.

Like Amazon bringing in the new delivery systems with their drone technology. Samsung Galaxy S4 is a forward thinking device. Given we function as human beings in the present moment, I would say that only time will tell the true worth of this device.

I am happy with my S4 I9500. In fact, the more I get to know it each day, the more I am glad I bought one. Yes, development can become more stable, yes, we need more interest in rom development in regards to this device. But I do think that with time comes experience and with experience, comes knowledge. I would make the decision to buy a galaxy s4 any day.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zubairamd:
Guys I just started loving my s4(after buying it's cover which stopped it's flickering problem) as it is fast on any aosp rom ( halo gen,pac etc).

Also great on stock Samsung though bloated with crap.

I just like it... And that's my opinion.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CrashUK:
To be fair you need to setup the phone and know why you battery is draining.

Apps I would Install

Deep Sleep Battery Saver = Best Battery Saver in my view

Alternative facebook app = Official Facebook app use about 10-20% battery in a day.

Black Wallpaper = Black Screen less battery used.

Root Phone

Greenify - Hibernate Apps your not using. Less wakelocks = more battery

Google Setting

Location Reporting Off = Ramdom GPS Locking or Wakelocks that use Battery when phone is sleeping.

Location History Off

Google +

Turn Off AutoBackup

Google Now Turn Off. Ramdom GPS Locking or Wakelocks.

My device

Turn Off

Air View

Smart Screen

Motions and gestures

Developer options

Turn Down Animations from 1.0x to 0.5x Apps will load 500ms faster.

They is more you can do but just some basic things.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N!KE26:
I was disappointed of the speed of s4 before I rooted.Now I have the kitkat gpe rom on my s4 and now the speed and performannce is what I expected from the s4.