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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harysick:
i have a local forum in my country, discuss about S4.

one of the member had an accident with his S4, he explained that his phone fell off from the table.

and it's not too high, just 40cm from the floor.

so what happened when he took the phone off the floor?

baammmm, screen get cracked by the floor.

just a short story :)

? sent from my fingers
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
The oled or the glass? They are not the same.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harysick:
the glass, because oled screen is protected by gorilla glass on the surface.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pifsworld:
My s4 has been pretty good build quality has been perfect I've dropped it twice (like a nob)but its only scratched the bezel which I could replace,ok it should of had the snapdragon 800 but we missed it but my s4 has been better than expected I had the s3 didn't like it at the time and went to ip4s then i had the htc one which was ok apart from htc's os (blinkfeed bugged me) then I got this S4 and its been great up to now,oh and ive have and will keep my nexus 4 butI have to admit a liking towards the note3 as that looks like a power house with the snapdragon 800 and 3g ram.. so I have to say my S4 is my go to device ok I only have this n4 and ip5 but I love this phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
That sucks. Most cases of this are the AMOLED cracking.

I just dropped mine on concrete, landed flat on the back. It's absolutely fine. I'm still shaking a little. I need a good case!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harysick:
i have a few pic

there are still two more cases of the screen that cracked from a fall.

maybe i need permission in advance to the concerned to take some more pictures from the owner (badly cracked).

and i do not believe the video on youtube about S4 screen review, let alone hit with a hammer :silly:

its i9500.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossFixxed:
I don't doubt what you're saying. It sucks for the people with broken devices! I got lucky tonight and I better get a good case! :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3ayachi:
I hate the fact that samsung made usb 3.0 and the new octa core simultanious work for the Note and not for s4 despite being the flagship. I know i can survive without them but hate paying that much for my phone and not getting these options :p

Also i hate when samsung make lot of versions with options indisponible for some.. LTA and the new LTA-A.

About my phone, I am happy with everything, though the only possible drawback is that it doesńt look very solid. At least as solid as my S2 which did great job during the previews 2 years. I cant remember haw many times i dropped him, i didnt take too much care because he felt solid at the time. S4 doesnt offer that feeling, maybe because its a bit havier.

Sorry for my bad english :p
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harysick:
Samsung has taken over most of the S family and replace it with the Note family.

S series are so many out there, and it reduces the exclusivity of S family.

maybe if Samsung launch galaxy S5, there are many variants as well :p

? sent from my fingers
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tournier:
the only thing i hate about this GS4 is about how many version that made... too, too many, really.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
A little disappointed because it isn't that much different from the S3. Yes it has a better display and internals (as it should be) but physically it looks the same, performance isn't that much better and it launched with a lot of lag. The development community speaks for itself. The S3 has a HUGE development community, the S4 is OK.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karandevilocs:
this is my first samsung phone and it didn't impress me at any means! (these are all about i9500)

i mean come on how could you launch it with failure CPU!

where are the great GALAXY community that every one was talked about these past years!

it's little annoying flashing with odin and stuff!

i had a an ONE X before and ANDroid Revolution HD and Maximus Roms were GODS! i mean they leaked so many stable frimware ! (as they are leaking so many new roms again but this time with HTC One) (they have freakin' 4.3 rOm)

when i had One X they published 4.2 a month earlier on s3 but this time it's EXACT opposite scenario!

i Chose One X over S3 Just because of Design and stuff but this time i chose INTERNAL + MINIMUM BEZEL ! but i think i chose wrong variant!

overall i think i chose wrong phone and there are not so many phones that i would exchange this for those!

ONE : Large Phone despite of having only 4.7 screen! S600 CPU / LG G2 : UI is crap + it's LG / Z1 : HUGE BEZELs SAME LOOK / Note 3 : HUGE phone but i love every aspect of it ! but unfortunately i'm not LeBron James ! / i think i would wait for NEXT BIG THING from samsung and HTC in 5-6 month!

despite all those disadvantages i'm livin with it with bunch of customizations : WANAM Xposed / Adam Kernel / Action Launcher / ... so on ... !

it's not a torture but i think it doesn't worth it's money AT ALL!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tournier:
I agree with you, S3 and s4 are not ""that much"" different, since i was on a GSII i switched for a GS4 i9505g and i'm not dispointed, really feel the difference between those two awesome phones. (despite of the fact that the last GSII update was really great, and give a huge bunch to his performances)

for the community, the S4 is still 'new' so, let's give him enough time to grow up ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
You buying the phone for its looks?

That's something that disappointed me as well. Coming from an S2 with a wonderful and active community it was like a shock. :P

It could be as tournier say but I have a hunch it won't be like the S2 ever.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nex86:
I own an i9505, I do like it but I'm really disappointed of Samsungs new security features like knox or the new knox warrenty void counter that you still can't reset yet.

like say, if you later have issues with the hardware they will refuse to repair it on warrenty because you rooted your phone.

I mean come on.. you CAN NOT damage your hardware by rooting your phone. Even if you overclock it, it is impossible to damage the chip.

Even though I'm happy with the S4. It is fast and stable, I gave my old S3 to my dad.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] negrobembon:
Everybody does man, its one of the most important parts of buying a phone, if you're paying so much money for it then it better look good
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nex86:
I don't.

In my opinion, the HTC one and Xperia Z look better but I bought the S4 because it offers the most features and fastest hardware.

The HTC one has a cool slim aluminium body but a slower Snapdragon 600, no MicroSD slot and no replacable battery

Xperia Z is water resistant, has a cool looking glass body but only a Snapdragon S4 Pro,

no replacable battery and a crappy LCD (the one I had had a horrible contrast and dead pixels)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
Well, I'm not... that denies the "Everybody". :p

I do balance a lot of things. Of course I won't buy an awful phone but as that is in the eye of the beholder you really can't tell.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Yes that too. Is that wrong?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] E300L:
s4 looks better than s3 the 4+4cpu is not a good solution
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kriomag:
MH8

samsung is officially over...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rl421403:
Yes, along with nice hardware too.

I certainly cannot imagine myself buying a phone just for it's hardware if it doesn't look nice.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T4mpon:
FM tuner missing, can't belive they left it out of the phone. Onlineradios drain to much battery. And also bad quality speakers.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
Yes, the numbers say so... :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zubairamd:
Not happy as the screen flickers every time and shows s-view's clock...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Please don't be so sure of this statement.

A rooted phone CAN have it's hardware damaged, here is 1 example I directly know about, over in desire HD forums, development work on sense 5 kernel caused blown touch digitizer by the kernel sending too much voltage to the controller.

I know the example is not Samsung, im sure the same can happen in any device.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChampMEon:
I do like the phone beacause of the big screen and the IR blaster.

Further more the internal parts are a bit dissapointing performance wise. Especially the camera with shutterlag.

The bad batterylife on the 9500(compared to 9505) is also not appealing at all.

I miss my smoothness on my jailbroken iPhone 4 and the zero shutter lag.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mirkocosta:
People expect more from model to model. Talk about disappointment is not enterly right, but I can say that i expect more from Samsung, they could do better with s4.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] difyel:
a priori i will say a better battery and a larger screen size . Also , i have been reading on the forum and it seems that the new firmware updates are somewhat limiting to what can be done with the device and that's a shame .
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazza7111:
Dissapointed with apps to sd card option

Not good enough.

Now ive just noticed I have "custom" even though im not rooted and updated through kies. Why? 64gb card?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vzzoli:
You are wrong. Some tuners for the better overclock availability increase the CPU voltage. I think i don't have to explain what does it mean.

---------- Post added at 05:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:20 PM ----------

Hello

i bought the I9500 after S2 and some chinese quad-core dual sim phone.

The positive things: the S4's display quality is brilliant, and the loudspeaker is louder than my all previous phones.

Despite of these, I'm disappointed in almost all those features why i bought it.

The first, and most important thing for me was the speed of interface and the apps.

The chinese phones were faster, than the S2, but (next to many other disadvantages) their GPU is too weak to properly serve the FHD screen.

In most cases the S4's UI is slower than the chinese phones'.

Laggy between the main screens and applications, sometimes the dial pad and sms menu load under 3 seconds. Not to mention the camera app. Some cases i'm waiting for at least 5 seconds to switch camera on. When i press the camera button, it takes few seconds to take a picture. It is ok at a chinese phone for $200, but not at a top product, especially with the own UI.

The memory consumption is high. With 2 GB RAM it has less free memory than the S2, because it is full of unused (by me) Samsung apps. Samsung reinvented the wheel with its own integrated services (chat, hub, apps, etc). The problem with these, they are running parallel with Google similar services, and both of them eating the memory.

I disabled as i can without root, but it seems only on battery life, not the performance.

The battery drains under half a day, when I keep the location settings on. It would be good feature but not so.

I know, easy to root and remove unused apps, or install customized ROMs, but i think twice to void the warranty on a $650 phone.

I choose Samsung chipset, because my experience with S2 with the Android 2.3 was excellent. That was stable, faster than any competitor, perfect in it's all part without compromise.

I hoped the newer chipset follow this way, but unfortunately not.

The heating was problem with the S2 and this phone too. But the S4 gets hot when i just reading mails or browsing net.

And the I9500 disadvantages compared to I9505: no LTE, no OpenGL 3.0, worse battery life.

It clearly seems, the Samsung mess up this chipset. They realized this, and they compensated they failure with Snapdragon. Profanity :o)

Overall my opinion is, this phone targeted the premium market, but (with this chipset) it is only average.

When i bought the S2, i felt instantly i will use it for years, but this phone...I'm just waiting for the Xperia Z1.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
The S2 was an amazing phone for sure.

It's hard to compare when you have a really good starting point.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NZCloud:
S2!!!!

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I agree...i loved my S2 when it came out. Even struggled leaving the S2 for the S3.

Looking forward to getting the note...looks like a giant S2! :fingers-crossed:

Hard to say why im not a fan of my S4...i think we expect to much from year to year when it comes to innovation..Its an incredible phone but just doesn't do it for me.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ultramag69:
I think the phone isn't bad, just not really a major step up from the s3... I owned both. Some of the features are just a little under developed and should only improve with time but the new bootloader and KNOX really did it for me...

Samsung has really Sh!t in their own bed for this community with the new security features, KNOX and the locked bootloader are going to turn away more than a few Samsung fans. You just know these little slap in the face are going to be put into all the new Samsung devices.

If that happens then I know that I will be recommending something else to all my non tech savvy mates on principal alone, this is why Apple Icrap gets such a bad rap here on these forums... All locked down with no room to do what I want on MY $600+ device... That's why I recommend anything but Samsung, err, sorry, Apple...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeorgeM269:
mixed thoughts here... great device, like it stock, but would like it more customized like my old S2... that phone rocked... trying ColorOS as of now... very nice.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vzzoli:
I agree, the Samsung is becoming a wannabe Apple year by year. It looks like they didn't realized or can't accept that most of their customers are choosing Android phone, because they hate the closed, highly controlled systems.

And it wouldn't be big problem, if they could present a perfect integrated system, but this one is...http://xdaforums.com/images/icons/icon13.gif
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DesireHDScreenorgasm:
I only hated Samsungs TouchWiz, most of the times. Since AOSP Official 4.3 finally everything works fine and this is a great Nexus-like device. Not much you can complain about if the OS is the right one :o
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xuelide:
the only things I do not satisfy about S4 is the battery.

Even though the battery life is not bad after switch from TW to GE or AOSP.I got 4-5 scr hr for daily use.

But I think the dimension of S4 is capable for installing a 3000+ mah battery.If so ,the S4 is the best phone in 2013.:silly:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hovax615@hotmail.com:
I really love my s4. I messed up and traded it for an iPhone 5 next day I traded it for the gs4 again. Missed the openness like being able to almost everything like a laptop/PC can. When I was at the att store everyone was buying a galaxy s4 over the new iPhone 5s(which is a shortage at stores) but with that being said they were in their 30-50s buying galaxy s4's. I wouldn't trade this phone ever again for anything else besides another android phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfsmw_gr:
Coming from an S3, i'm disappointed so far with my S4.

Compared to S3:

-Battery life sucks.

-It's kinda hotter.

-The gpu doesn't perform as well s advertised.

-KNOX Warranty takes away all the fun.

-Audio quality good but not as good as I expected.

-Less quantity and lower quality xda development support.

I think I'll sell it and go for a Note 3.

But if Note 3 (and all upcoming phones from Samsung) have this irreversible KNOX Warranty **** I'll go with Sony this time.

I love Samsung (maybe I'm a bit of a fanboy too) and I've owned all Galaxy S models except the S2 because I didn't like it from the start, but if buying a Samsung phone in the future means losing warranty automatically and irreversibly after modding it, then bye bye Sammy. :)

EDIT:

Damn!!

I need to unlock the bootloader on Xperia Z1 for example to flash a kernel?

Once again I'll lose warranty...

Is there any decent phone manufacturer which you can buy phones and mod them without worrying about warranty issues?

HTC's phones have warranty if you mod them or they lose the warranty too?

Any suggestion/answer will be highly appreciated. :)

EDIT 2:

I also read you can re-lock the bootloader on Xperia phones.

If you do this the warranty will be valid again, right?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
Battery life is at the worst on par but easily alot better than s3 iphone 5! My i9505 doesn't get hot from reading email or sms. Gpus performance is outstanding!! Plenty of development here but than again how long has the s4 been around for?!! guys must be doing something wrong or got a lemon lol oh and the audio quality isnt as good as the s3 due to the wolfston chip used in the s3 but still the s4 lte version holds its own in that department! And if u don't like TW install S4 ge 4.3 rom its excellent :)

Sent from my S4 i9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfsmw_gr:
You don't prove me wrong by just saying the opposite.

That's my opinion from personal experience and I'm keeping it mate.

I'm not doing anything wrong personally, I've got a lot of experience with android devices and I'm sure I'm doing it right. (I've been tweaking/flashing/modding etc since the first Galaxy S (i9000) and so far I've learned a lot of things I use every day.)

I'm glad you're fine with yours man, but I'm not with mine.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
Not my experience with the 9505 and the 3 people I know that use the 9500 think the battery is about the same as S3.

Not my case but it seems that the 9500 has that. Could be the Exynos processor?!

I feel the same. Audio quality is one of the things I don't like about Samsung phones so far.

Yes, even the more dev friendly 9505 has not as much development as the S2. But I believe they are quite new devices. Maybe, with time we will see more activity.

What?! :p

That's the best phone I had.

A wonderful Android experience if it weren't for the battery.

Any developer edition should be unlocked from factory but I believe that warranty has some limitations.

You should check.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nfsmw_gr:
[MENTION=4377026]jcasares[/MENTION]

Not my experience with the 9505 and the 3 people I know that use the 9500 think the battery is about the same as S3.

I had around 6-7 hours screen on with my S3 and with my S4 I can barely get 4.30-5! :|

I'm disappointed really.

My GF also has the S4 coming from S3 and a friend of mine also comes from an S3 and we all aggree that the battery life is worse!

(When I say S4 I mean i9505 and when I say S3 I mean i9300, I'm always talking abou the international versions)

Not my case but it seems that the 9500 has that. Could be the Exynos processor?!

Maybe it could!

I wanted the exynos model but it wasn't available here in greece. :(

I feel the same. Audio quality is one of the things I don't like about Samsung phones so far.

I liked the quality of the S1 and the S3, I didn't like the S2's quality and I feel okay with the quality of the S4.

Yes, even the more dev friendly 9505 has not as much development as the S2. But I believe they are quite new devices. Maybe, with time we will see more activity.

+1

What?! :p

That's the best phone I had.

A wonderful Android experience if it weren't for the battery.

+1 About the battery, but my GF's S2 was way too laggy after getting 4.0 update. :/

Dunno, maybe only her phone was having issues and the other S2's were okay?

I never had the chance to play around with any other S2 except her's but I remember it was lagging heavily and she wanted to get rid of it in the end. :P

But I was also dissapointed because I expected a qhd screen not a wvga one, a better audio chip and maybe stereo speakers(?) that's why I kept my i9000.

Any developer edition should be unlocked from factory but I believe that warranty has some limitations.

You should check.

I think they don't sell these here, but thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcasares:
You mention the 9505 and I don't have bad battery usage with it. It last a full day of heavy usage (around 16 hours) or a little more than one if I use it sparsely.

My heavy usage includes around 2 hs of game play each day while commuting. :p

I'm using CyanogenMod 10.2 so I don't know if Touchwiz is more consuming.

I was saying that the Exynos version overheats and lasts quite less than the Qualcom counterpart. I don't have heating as I had with the S2 with my international S4.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
Stock rom i9505 battery lasts easy 6 7 or 8 hours screen on

Sent from my S4 i9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superandroid2011:
I have I9500 and I had I9300 before, definitely the battery is better on I9500.

And since battery on I9505 is about the same as I9500, I do think it is also better than I9300.

But of course you have to compare I9505 Stock FW with I9300 Stock FW, otherwise the ROM can be the problem.

Less development, yes, it is less.

I think 2 reasons for that:

1-) There are more options out there this time around, Samsung is not King.

2-) Phones are blazing fast out of the box these days and ROMs were mostly developed to enhance performance, there is not a imense need to do it anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
Depends on what you do with it of course.

It is simply impossible to browse the web for 8 hours, for example. Screen on + using data drains the battery like crazy. As it does on any phone, it's no surprise.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hwalalufazey:
disappointed with the battery life .. and the phone heating too much ..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paras:
battery life is pretty sad to me as well,but the phone is awesome
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
My GS4 I9500 battery is definitely better than my GS3 I9300's battery life, especially over WiFi, my GS4 is very frugal when on WiFi, big step up from the great GS3, IMO.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potofgold:
kinda disappointed with the battery life, but everything else is just great!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] razno:
I am coming from s2 and I will use it like reference point.

Camera is crap. Full stop. I sold s2 to my friend and he constantly joking about my camera. You must be still when taking pictures but still in non sunny day s2 take clear picture and when zoomed it's still clear (eg, picture of bottle of beer in bar and then zoomed to tiny text on bottle.).

Heating. Phone heat to much using Facebook or chrome.

Build quality. After black s2 I have frost white s4. Light around back and setting Button look cheaply. Also led on top doesn't look perfectly evenly. I don't know if it suppose to be, right rim around a phone is slightly more rised then left.

Also I can feel in max volume vibration on rear. And also, motor on my model have springly vibration motor so I can feel it then taping phone...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paras:
I really feel s5 should have better battery.Iam coming from note 2 so s4 battery with the processor etc should have been more.

Sent from my HTC One
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ausboy 2011:
Internet on browsing can get 8 hours you can tune your kernel and get that

Sent from my S4 i9505
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maysider:
SGS4 stays as it is but

+ need a better camera

+ better battery

+ pure Android

+ poor IR blaster
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Get the zerolemon and you won't have to worry about battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smep:
2g ram with 1.9 processor, i dun dare to complain :D