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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
There should be links to older versions of kinology somewhere, I know older versions supported it, I've just never used this rom so I can't provide direct links

They gotta be out there though

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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
The kinology 2.01 thread is still up and you can get the older version from there. ..it's in the development section too ..

Here it is

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2163135

Good luck

Oh, what you will need to do is probably flash an older version of the kindle fire rom and then install kinology 2,0,1... don't remember if you can load 2.0.1 directly over 4,3... anyway I think that is covered in the old thread as well..
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dmullens:
My kindle is on the fritz and amazon is sending me another one, but if I remember kinology is android 4.2 something. Are you planning to update to 4.3?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Eh, wot?

Kinology is based on stock, which is based on ICS (4.0.3). Kinology will continue to be based on whatever the current stock version is.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dmullens:
Guess I missed that. What I would love would be to run android 4.3 or 4.2 with the ability to play amazon video files. I like kinology because it integrates amazon and Google. Youve done an awesome job there. I don't know of any other ROMs that combine amazon and Google nearly as well.

Would the amazon stuff break under a newer android version?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Oh yes

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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] karanrcb:
Hello, I am using Kinology 3.0 and it is working flawless!! Only problem is that the flash plqyer does not work!!

When I use flash on dolphin or any other flash browser, it crashes!! Adobe flash player is installed.

pls help.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Kinology 3 is really nice!

However, Flash doesn't work on Amazon 7.4.3, and Kinology 3 is based on the latest Amazon build...

If you really need flash you might have to consider stepping back to Kinology2,1 ...

BTW, I think that the flash situation is explained in the OP, and also in some of Julian's posts here...(look above:)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
Amazon update version 7.4.6 here :

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...p_navbox_200529680_kindlelhd?nodeId=201016350

The software update includes the following enhancements:

Language Support for Brazilian Portuguese

You can now change your device language to Brazilian Portuguese.

Download New Keyboard Languages

Download keyboards in different languages to use on your Kindle Fire.

Multicolor Highlights

Highlight a word or passage in your Kindle books using additional colors.

Share Notes & Highlights from a Print Replica Textbook

E-mail your personal notes and highlights to classmates.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Wow! 7,4,6 that's got to be another new update... :(

Thanks for the info!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Re: 7.4.6 - already working on it :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
Firstly, thanks for developing this rom, it's an amazing concept that I hope never gets abandoned as long as Amazon is rolling out updates.

My only concern is that without the ability to use flash, it won't be able to compete with other custom roms. Has anyone got flash working that uses this rom, despite the obstacles in the way?

More importantly, do you think you will ever be able to code this to support flash somehow? Or is that option right out the window?

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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Yes, that's the million dollar question!!

- Don't want to speak for Julian, but I think he's already mentioned that a) its a difficult challenge due to the recent coding and b) he's working to see if it is possible.

Not sure how much more we can ask of him without getting into the "what is the ETA?" and "here's my request for customizations" lanes in the road that are not really encouraged on XDA. . . :confused:

Fortunately, we also have Kinology2.1 for those who really still need flash.

[And] Kinology 2.1 is rock solid! I still have the nandroid of it on my KFTT just in case. However, it may be my imagination but the font seem a bit crisper on 3.0 At least on the information or notification bar. . . might just be me since I like that new battery % icon a lot :). . .

Of course, if we **could** get flash back. . . .:D:D:D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bigfoot.kom:
Hello. My kindle has been on for four days 45 mins, mostly on standby and minimal usage. Still at 85 % battery. Using kinology 3.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Good news everyone! Kinology 3.1 is being uploaded now. It's based off of Amazon's 7.4.6 update with the most recent Google app updates as well. Kinology will now also be available in an All-in-one-zip version, and a much smaller update zip for those already running 3.0. Oh, and Flash is working as well.... :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
OK, 3.1 is up. I'm having trouble getting the AIO uploaded tonight, but I'll add the link as soon as I can tomorrow.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Kinology 3.1 up and running. . . Thank you for another great product!:good::good::good::good::good:

- Using the multi-file method (the all in one is not up -as you mentioned) the Rom installed well.

- I did a new full install and had no problems (the reboot in recovery after it flashes step1 still is a requirement, but I was ready for it this time ;) ) . What that really means is in TWRP we probably should only queue up steps 0 and 1, since we will have to reboot recovery after TWRP flashes step 1 anyway, and then immediately que up all three parts of step 2 plus steps 3 and step 4).

- Also, after the first language screen I rebooted -I recall that some settings in the old rom required a reboot after installation to work, not sure for 3.1, but did it anyway. :confused:

One thing that puzzled me --after the Kinology boot screen I saw some Amazon wallpaper appear out of nowhere. . . kind of frightening! But all was right after the rom opened.

Used TIBU to restore my 100+ apps.

The install did not take much out of the battery, I started at 74% and after installing and rebooting twice I am at 63% while running the restore. That's pretty good!

- An initial Antutu benchmark test provided this result: 7621 (@1200), which is a pretty respectable score for my KFTT. :victory:

- I still think the Kinology screen looks a bit sharper in this (and the last version) when compared with stock or older versions. Not sure if it is technically so but it just seems a bit clearer and sharper ... was anything done to the screen in this build?

Thank you again Julian -we could not ask for more out of this rom and this KFTT -the world is in sync today ;)

(time for a nandroid backup!)

:cowboy:

***** EDIT: TESTED THE FLASH PLAYER VIA DOLPHIN AND FLASH WORKS! What could be better than this? *****
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Just made a minor change to the step1-boot files so that the "restart your Kindle" failure message will not show up if the recovery is not actually changed. This doesn't affect anyone who has already installed 3.1, but should make installing updates a bit faster.

--------------------

Not by me. The display drivers were, however, updated in 7.4.5.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Ssantos6981:
Error 942

I am enjoying this rom so far, it is working very well. I really enjoy the fact that it combines the amazon OS with the google apps. Something that the kindle is sorely missing. The amazon app store is just terrible. Here's is my problem though, only certain apps give me an error 942 when installing. Wild blood, Mass Effect infiltrator, modern combat 4, GTA iii, monsters ate my condo, and even google search. Final fantasy iv, jet set radio, and all sorts of other apps installed correctly. It doesn't seem to matter about size because I installed a 1.8 GB app. Any information of what this is about?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
No wifi

Upgraded from 3.0 to 3.1 and now have no wifi!

WiFi wont even switch on. Applied the update with no wiping at all, went back to recovery and wiped cache/dalvik.

Going to wipe caches and re-apply update to see now.... EDIT - No difference, awesome, I always make a backup before flashing anything - except just now:mad:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Did you forget step 1?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
That will teach me to read and not assume... :o
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
According to	ENvisiNKeD "If having Play Store error 942... Fix permissions in recovery and clear app cache and data"

in thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1666000 there are a lot of posts on this error and how to fix it!

Its not the rom. . . try these steps (permissions and clear x2) and see if you fix it!

Good Luck!

:cowboy:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I'm seeing some odd behavior as well. However, I confirmed that nothing was accidentally changed in the Play Store app, and also that nothing changed in the system permissions declarations (not related to "fix permissions").

My current install was achieved through the update.zip, so it may very well be that some combination of clearing data/cache and rebooting might fix it on mine as well.

Still investigating, just in case.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Here is another thing that might be affecting you. . . The Google Play store is having issue -independent of our Rom. .

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-when-installing-or-updating-apps-no-fix-yet/

:confused:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Ssantos6981:
no change

No change Marc. I removed my account from accounts & sync. I cleared the data & cache from anything that was associated with google. Went into recovery, fixed permissions and then went into the google apps again and cleared the data. I then went into accounts & sync, signed in and tried again but still having the same issue. It is only those select few, they work fine on my HTC One S but "error 942" galore on the kindle. Maybe they are just not compatible with the rom/hardware?

Does anyone have google search installed?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I've been investigating Google Search specifically (the others are paid apps). According to the manifest for that app and the available features that Kinology exposes to the Play Store, there should not be any problem. Something is wrong either on Google's servers or in the newest Play Store app. I'll try rolling back Play Store a version or two next.

Edit: Yeah, as best I can tell, this looks to be server side. I've rolled back everything Google related on my device to what was there in 3.0 and wiped all appropriate data and still cannot install Google Search. Given Mark's link regarding the known corruption issues, I'm inclined to think the Google engineers are monkeying around and something isn't quite right at the moment.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
OK, I have read Julian's reply to you and I agree.

Also, please see this other link that adds some additional information on the issue. http://cafbit.com/entry/android_package_file_is_invalid

It makes me think that perhaps your HTC One updated because you might have been updating via the 3g or 4G/LTE/whatever network and not via your wifi (or maybe the One is such a good phone that it could overcome problems like this ;) )

One thing to try -if you can without trouble- is to tether your KFTT to your ONE And try a download that way instead of via your wifi, if that works it might confirm the issue is Google -although we sort of know that to be the case anyway!!!:cool:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Ssantos6981:
Wifi all the way

My phone was connected through the wifi while the downloads were made. The kindle is connected through the same wifi. I don't have a package invalid issue, that usually happens after a download is "finished" and then tries to install. The download doesn't even begin on the kindle, as soon as you accept the install it immediately returns the error 942. I will still look through the various threads you guys have posted to see if I can fix it up. Either way I am still enjoying this rom, it works very well and brings an added breath of fresh air to the stale amazon store.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
+1

:victory:

---------- Post added at 09:15 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:13 AM ----------

Hey, Julian, Who fixed flash? Did Amazon's update correct their own error? Or, have you developed a routine to work around them? Just curious. .:confused: . .(As I happily use my flash on Dolphin/Boat in Kinology3 ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
Wish I could take credit, but no. That was the primary change from 7.4.5 to 7.4.6 on Amazon's side.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Random Username:
First, I'd like to thank you very much for maintaining Kinology! I already wondered what happened to it, but then I discovered your new thread :)

Now, can I "dirty-flash" Kinology 3.1 onto my installed 2.0.1 version?

Also, the download is pretty slow (about 100KB/s). Is there anything you could do about that or is it only because I'm living in Europe?

Regards,

Random Username
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
As long as you are currently running any Stock OS or any version of Kinology, you can safely install the latest Kinology without wiping data. Just make sure it's a full install (step-by-step or all-in-one), not an update.

As far as speed goes, I don't think there's anything I can do. I'm using the same file server host (MediaFire) that Kinology has always used.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bigfoot.kom:
Hello. Would it be better to upgrade my kindle software first before i upgrade to new kinology or does the zip do it for you to use flash? Thank you.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
I think that as long as you have the TWRP (2d bootloader) installed, you don't have to upgrade your software.

TWRP will load any compatible rom regardless of what you had on it before.

So, flashing this (super) Kinology3 would not require a new base -just TWRP. :good::good:

[ However, if you still need to add TWRP (a prerequisite for using this, or any other custom rom on the KFTT), that's a different story and maybe the TWRP thread has addressed it -I suspect you don't have upgrade to load TWRP, but I've had TWRP loaded now for so long that things may have changed...]:confused:

Other users please jump in if I have this wrong --I don't want to provide bad advice (don't think this is wrong, but ...);)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] itouchables:
if i am on the stock rom(7.2.3) (rooted and 2nd bootloader) can i flash this rom without wiping data ?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
I'll just quote this.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] itouchables:
Lol read right passed that.... great rom man !!

sent fro my rooted kindle fire hd 7 with twerp and kindology rom installed
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] karanrcb:
This may be a horrible question but I am curious........

Can you make a Kinolgy rom with JB??
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kstephens98:
Not unless Amazon update stock to jb.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Random Username:
USB Host/OTG Support?

I've always wondered if the KFHD supported USB OTG. I've read that the chipset actually supports it but the devs at Amazon didn't include the software feature. Is that right and would it be possible to activate it? That would be awesome :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] DroidIt!:
Well do know at this particular time it doesn't work. Got a micro usb cable with thumb drive I use with my hox and it works great, tried the same setup with stickmount on kindle and no recognition at all. If the hardware's in there though that would be great if somebody could find a workaround. My wife uses her kfhd for work and was asking me that same question just two days ago.

Any chance this could be worked out in Kinology, or would that be a massive undertaking? Just curious myself.

from my Viped out one x
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gqukyo:
I've just flashed 3.1 this morning and noticed now that my wifi cuts off from time to time with a little x, I can leave it alone and eventually it'll work again or I can turn wifi/airplane mode off and then back on. Anyone else experience this?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Does the wifi actually quit? or only the logo? I sometimes have the logo display no wifi (x on the band), but in fact it still works.

In the Kindle Fire First Aide Kit thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2096888&highlight=blue+tooth&page=70 , Onoitsu2 made the point in post #2777 (in reply to me #2776) about the x in wifi. . .Seems to be a screen re-write thing and not a real wifi problem --unless you have tested it and have no wifi! ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Opensystem:
I've been asking for otg forever, it should be at least number 3 on any given Rom wishlist

Hash seems to think it's more in the "massive undertaking" category, unfortunately :(

Sent from my Android Kindle Fire HD 7 Running Cyanogenmod 10.1
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
He's right.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gqukyo:
Nope, actually cuts off. I've never seen it before with my non-rooted stock rom. Minor annoyance but does affect me at least.

On another note, who does everyone use for an app switcher? With the stock rom, I basically just the favorites menu as my app switcher since I don't really have a choice but since I'm rooted now with Play store, I'm guessing I can install more stuff than its available on Amazon's store. :cool:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Wow! I remember some of the early KFTT had some wifi issues, but in general they are rock solid -never saw this wifi in-and-out.:confused:

If I were you I would reflash Kinology and make sure you clear cache, dalvik factory reset and (maybe) format system just to make sure you don't have some legacy junk interfering with the install/OS. :confused:

As for Launchers. With Kinology I use LMT -it's great and sits on top of the stock interface. I also have Nova pro loaded, but rarely use it on the KFTT -it is great on my phone however!

:rolleyes::victory:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gqukyo:
The launcher doesn't control the app switcher as far I know, it's the base rom. Amazon's stock rom's "app switcher" is the carousel, at least to me. I use Nova prime on my N4 but for my Kindle I'm using ADW Ex since I paid for that way back when I had my Evo. There's no app/task switcher to that.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] JulianPaoloThiry:
App switcher... you mean long press the home button?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
AS Julian mentioned, a long press of the home button will provide you with the list of apps and you just press on the one you want to switch to.

Also you can have that as a default on your PIE menu with LMT so when you engage the pie -you can slide into a quadrant that will open the app switching mode. LMT rides right on top of the Kinology (Amazon) stock launcher so it is out of the way and works. . .

Others have mentioned NOva with I use on my phone and any of those will have a home/switcher button. ..

There is also an app you can get that puts your latest /open apps in the notifications window -and you can pull down the notification window in Kinology and press that app and switch. . .will look up the name tomorrow . . .

For me LMT is the best mix -I keep kinology/Amazon's default that throws the Amazon content at me quickly and easily, yet I can hop over the top of the screen with LMT's PIE menu and do other things when I want -and when I don't want, it's hidden and out of the way. . .
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gqukyo:
Oh right, now I do remember seeing those options somewhere but I guess I had it mixed up with my MIUI rom on my N4. Thanks guys!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Hey there is also another app that works nicely with our kindle interface..it's called

RECENT APPs and you need to enable notifications for it.

When you run it, it sits in the notification bar (pull down) and when you pull down the bar it's there an you can switch to any of you open app s...

Just an idea in case you need options :=)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] gqukyo:
Thanks for the suggestion.

Anyone having issues with Netflix? I tried both the version from the Play store and Amazon store but neither works with showing the pop up when I click on a movie.

Ok so it seems it only works on landscape mode.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Random Username:
Another small problem: My Bluetooth keyboard works flawlessly with the KFHD, but my mouse doesn't. Would it be possible to improve the bluetooth functionality or is that also in the "massive undertaking" category? :D

BTW, it works fine with my phone running JB.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] markbc01:
Sorry, gqukyo, I am an Amazon instant video user, no Netflix for me :silly:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] designforce:
flash back to kinology

Hi, at the Moment i have installed CM10.1 on my KFHD7 and i would return to Kinology cause i miss my amazon cloud features. There are any instructions, hints or important requirements/things i must do before i can switch back? There are instructions how to switch step by step?

Best Regards

DForce
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
Not really. I'm getting ready to come back to Kinology myself, and all I'm planning on doing is creating a backup for CM 10.1 (just incase), and follow the step by step instructions that are posted here --> http://android.jupath.me/custom-roms/kinology/installation-download/

Wipe and flash.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] designforce:
So i have made the same and this works good, i am back on kinology now. Only thing is.. my unlock screen replacement Widgetlocker allways crashes.. :( or shows only a blackscrren so i must shut down the kindle fire

Greetings

dForce
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
Okay. Made the switch back to Kinology! I don't remember seeing this in either thread, is there a way to use a different keyboard? I have swiftKey installed, but can't set it up.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kstephens98:
Move the widgetlocker apk to system/app and change owner to root. Reboot/ profit.