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[HTC Butterfly S] tanjinjack:
Can anybody confirm if this phone comes with the HDR mic as found on the HTC One? My digging reveals that Engadget Chinese suggests on-par audio recording quality but I really need a confirmation. Anyone bothers to make a short recording on loud music to confirm it?
[HTC Butterfly S] Abdullah87:
Amazing battery life
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Ya, i can do that.
[HTC Butterfly S] bertula:
Hi, could you please help me double-check some infos?

Could you confirm that the only the 901e comes in black? Because I've seen some retailers selling the 901s in black but I think it's the grey one mislabeled, and the HTC official page makes no mention about colors. Btw, does the 901e work in Europe (Italy) too? (specs says so, but better ask before wasting houndreds of euros... ;) )

Thank you in advance.
[HTC Butterfly S] tsokh:
As I know, there are only 3 available colors: red, grey and white. Butterfly S in black will be released in China, but noone know when.

Almost all GSM carriers in Europe will work, not sure for 3G or 4G, you'd better compare frequencies with the operator.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I am not buying this phone if no s-off is ready don't make any sense
[HTC Butterfly S] orb3000:
Unless you are a Dev you don´t need S-Off

My last 3 devices never had S-Off (or never care to do it) and I was happy as hell without it ;)

Butterfly S is the best HTC device I ever used!
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I does need it I test roms for ppl
[HTC Butterfly S] playb0y:
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.ca/2013/06/do-we-really-need-s-off.html

Read this !
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
When I flash a rom I don't want to connect to a pc to flash a boot images further more I want to change my splash screen
[HTC Butterfly S] sephstyler:
I dont know if I'm going crazy/blind or both, but my Butterfly S (901S LTE), seemingly doesnt have a calculator built in...

hahaha

can you guys check yours?
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Lol
[HTC Butterfly S] tllim73:
It doesn't have the icon. But from the widget you are able to add. LoL....
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Don't know what to say are u rooted
[HTC Butterfly S] tllim73:
Yes, rooted.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Make a factory reset then
[HTC Butterfly S] UOKM8:
I'm about to buy this :laugh: but before I spend my £500.. I have a few questions;

1) Will the LTE version work with UK LTE? (not fussed if it doesn't, would be a benefit if it did though)

2) Is the Camera as good as the One? Even without OIS?

3) Is the audio quality from the Boomsound speakers and in ear as good as the One? I had the One briefly and was blown away by the audio quality.
[HTC Butterfly S] Taptapdude:
My butterfly s flexes and makes some creaking noise when I try to twist it. My HTC one is much better built. Anyone with this issue? Can I return to htc?
[HTC Butterfly S] Taptapdude:
The lte works in every country now and the camera and audio are as good or better than the one. Having owned both I can attest to that. Other that the fact the build quality of the butterfly s somewhat freaks when flexed it's in every way better than the one. Although the aluminium finish is gorgeous. I'd have to go with extra juice and screen size.
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Creaking noise? Lol. Ummmm.....no. I have nothing but positive things to say about this device!!!! Best I've owned yet!! It's better than the ONE.
[HTC Butterfly S] tsokh:
I don't have any issues with the build quality, no creaking noise. Or maybe you were so powerful in twisting that phone made some noise to warn you.;)
[HTC Butterfly S] -cyNix-:
Rooted & Busybox'ed

The first time I rooted & busybox'ed & sqlite'd, the HTC Blinkfeed lost it's ability to pull updates from Facebook, Twitter, and the other streams. There was just no entries under the 'Services' part in the Blinkfeed settings. I restored a backup, redid it again, and this time, I lost the Torchlight app. Anybody experienced this kind of issue? Like, loss of functionality in stock apps/framework? And, I need to know if the Calculator is really missing. Seems to not have the icon, but the widget. Can somebody confirm this? Need a straightforward answer, not a 'LoL' or a 'Restore if it's not there' answer, like above. Thanks.

Also, I am unable to copy/access/pull the TWRP folder if I'm booted in the ROM. I need to enter Recovery to access it. Is this normal? The messages I get when I try to access in ROM is that I don't have enough privileges.
[HTC Butterfly S] Taptapdude:
Hi there. Wonder if u guys had this problem. First time for me on any smartphone. My butterfly s cannot dial direct from a weblink to a phone number. When I click the highlighted number it opens the phone app and displays the number I clicked on. But in one second the number disappears and shows me another number I dialled recently and the number I'm trying to dial is gone. It can't be in the call history cos technically I havent clicked on dial. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks
[HTC Butterfly S] tsokh:
You won't have some stock apps after you root the phone, you need to install them separately or flash MaximusHD rom. Here is a list:

-Calculator.apk

-Flashlight.apk

-HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk

-HtcSoundRecorder.apk

-PDF_Viewer_F_A.apk

-SoundHound_Freemium.apk

-TuneIn.apk

I also wasn't able to move or copy TWRP folder if booted in the ROM, however you can make a backup to external SD in TWRP and then access the rom.
[HTC Butterfly S] lucids:
Re the LTE in the UK the above answer is not strictly true. If you want the LTE to work properly in the UK you would need to source the European (EMEA) version of the Butterfly S and not the Asian one. There are 3 frequencies used in the UK for LTE 800/1800/2600 MHz and the different networks have purchased licences for different portions of the 3 frequencies. Say you are on one network you may be able to get an LTE signal in the city but not outside the city because your network uses a different frequency there. Or your network just may not work at all on the Asian version on LTE. An example would be the O2 network in the UK whose LTE service launches in under 2 weeks will only be using the 800MHZ band which is unavailable on the Asian Butterfly S, but is available on the European one. Various sub networks piggy back on the O2 network so if you were on tesco mobile or giffgaff your 4G would not work either.

The safest bet then if in the UK is to get the European version. I myself am still looking for a source of one and am not even sure it is available yet. It is tricky as some sellers are showing the wrong specs on their websites.

For example look here: http://www.valuebasket.com/en_GB/HT...Unlocked-(Black)/mainproduct/view/13664-AA-BK

They list the correct LTE frequencies for Europe, but the 3G frequencies are incorrect and show the spec for the Asian model. So be careful and get them to email confirmation of the version you ordered.

If you look at the specs on the Hong Kong HTC website it does list an EMEA version there so should be available at some point I hope.

http://www.htc.com/hk-en/smartphones/htc-butterfly-s/#specs
[HTC Butterfly S] -cyNix-:
Oh I see. Well, thank you for your response! Info must have slipped me. The forums as of now are a little disorganized with the information we have from the phone. Someone should start posting up big proper threads to link the proper information to the masses. And the wiki. Yes, the wiki. That'd be good.
[HTC Butterfly S] Sepulture:
Just gotten my Red Butterfly S after realising that HTC doesn't release the black one in Singapore. Just a quick check, has any one of you guys actually gotten your hands on a Black Butterfly S?
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
HTC Butterfly S 901E/S Official thread

I am in Texas too and Im considering buying this phone! How are you liking it so far? I am glad you posted your experience with no LTE on At&T as this is my carrier too and had the same question. How is HSPA+ where you are? Does the radio seem to have a good strong signal? I have the HTC One currently and it gets hot when you use it a lot. Have you noticed the same with the BF S ? Are you getting lots of miles with the bigger battery between charges? Sorry for all the questions but any light you can shed on any of these questions and any other feedback you might want to share would be helpful.
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
Does the HTC Butterfly S have a notification light similar to the HTC ONE? and in the same spot?
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
i've been using my 901s for the past 3 weeks with no problems on att.

solid signal wherever i go in the Dallas metro area. i'm getting average HSPAP (HSPA+) downloads of 8-11 MB/s, which is good enough for my phone internet needs. upload speeds are anywhere from 1.5 - 3 MB/s.

i have not noticed any overheating; i'm not playing games, etc. so i wouldn't expect it to get warm.

i can easily get through a full day with about 40-50% battery left. picture below shows my battery usage over the last 13 hours and you can see i have 66% battery left. this is with 35 minutes of calls, 4 hours of screen time, wifi/bluetooth on the entire time, 110 emails (3 Exchange accounts all push) and 30 text messages. your experience may be different, but i'm very happy with battery life.

overall i'm quite happy with my 901s. i really like the "One" form factor with a 5 inch screen. one of the features i use most often is using Sense to see all my activities with multiple business contacts. for example, when i look at them in contacts i can see text messages, emails, calls all in one place. this is very valuable for me. i will close by saying this: if you are a heavy internet user and you depend quite a bit on LTE internet speeds, you will notice the slower internet speeds for sure. the tradeoffs for me were not an issue. if i need LTE for tethering i use my unlocked att Galaxy S4 with my att/T-mobile sim. hope my response was helpful. cheers!
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
Thanks man. This is awesome feedback. One last question, does it have a notification light like the ONE has? upper left hand corner? Really appreciate the time. :)
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
there's a small notification light in the top right corner; appears to be behind the speaker grille.
[HTC Butterfly S] Taptapdude:
Yes. One color
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Which color is the best to get
[HTC Butterfly S] zii_:
The front panel is always on black so for me I guess its better to have the red one.

Sent from my HTC Butterfly s
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Does finger prints show a lot on the red one
[HTC Butterfly S] xhahzl:
It's all personal preference, but I hear the black has a matte finish as opposed to the other 3 colours being glossy.

I myself got the red cause I thought it looked nice.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Jus asking I thought u would see more fingerprints with the red
[HTC Butterfly S] xhahzl:
never compared with others and also use a case so i can't really say...

sorry i'm not much of a help :S
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Tru what color case do u have
[HTC Butterfly S] zii_:
Well, based on what I have read or watched over the internet (not sure), the gray one shows most of the fingerprints and the red one shows the least.

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[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
What about the white
[HTC Butterfly S] zii_:
Sorry mate. I dont know about the white. I never wanted the white one. I think it could pick up dirt easily.

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[HTC Butterfly S] alfa7d:
Why i can't find the black color in websites ? all color available except black !!
[HTC Butterfly S] zii_:
I think Black and Pure White version is the one released on China.

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[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
How long are you seeing for charging times? I currently have the HTC One and its takes forever to completely charge.
[HTC Butterfly S] playb0y:
For the butterfly S the charging time is pretty long too. But 32oo mah ;)
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
Thanks! Thats what I thought. I ordered mine (RED!) yesterday. Should be here by mid week next week! Cant wait! Time to get the HTC ONE ready to sell! :)
[HTC Butterfly S] zii_:
Mine goes like 2-4 (worst case: everything on and im playing games) hours.

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[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
The white version i have, it doesnt get dirty at all. And it barely shows fingerprints.
[HTC Butterfly S] playb0y:
Did you find any solution?? I have the same issue, the recovery can't see sd card so I am unable to flash Maximus !
[HTC Butterfly S] tsokh:
Please ensure that you formated your external SD card as FAT32.
[HTC Butterfly S] iJesu:
I just got my htc butterfly S (red). I order it from negri. I have a problem it have backlight bleeding on top of the three buttons. You can check it when the screen shows black. Anyone have this problem? :(
[HTC Butterfly S] Taptapdude:
Yeah. Led bleed is quite bad on mine too
[HTC Butterfly S] xhahzl:
mine does too. i think all might be like that.
[HTC Butterfly S] koniiiik:
Mine most certainly doesn't have this kind of backlight bleed. There is a default background, though, which is displayed in certain moments, such as when loading an app, which does have a paler gradient at the bottom. I'm not sure at which moments I've seen it, but when I display a black screen, it is the same color all the way to the bottom.
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
So I got this awesome phone today! Red! :) Everything works as it should as far as I can tell. Question. With AT&T it shows H for HSPA and 3g. Are you seeing HSPA (+)? I mean the speeds are decent around 8mbs down and 1.5 up. I can live with that. I am in central Texas. Mostly asking to make sure I am not missing a setting in the APN. Any feedback is appreciated!
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Where did you buy it
[HTC Butterfly S] alfa7d:
I heard there is a problem with SD card ( can't read it ), is that true ?
[HTC Butterfly S] iJesu:
You can see the backlight bleed when a youtube video its loading and dont show the video (shows black). Anymore with the same problem? Thanks
[HTC Butterfly S] tsokh:
There are problems with SD cards formated in extFAT or NTFS, but it's the common problem of Android. Works perfectly with 64gb fat32.
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
Negri Electronics.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Ok I ordered my red butterfly s today from negrielectronics, the order is now processing I got tired of waiting
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
Yes. Fastest speed I've seen on mine is 12mbs down and 2mbs up.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Ok my butterfly s was shipped :D
[HTC Butterfly S] boogie2001:
Thats cool. So does the logo show "H+" up top when you are on hitting that band? Did you have to do anything special in your APN settings? Im getting decent speeds but want to make sure im not missing out on some setting that could help it go up. So far pretty satisfied with the phone. Im still breaking in the battery. Did you remove all the included Taiwanese apps bundled in?
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
i do not see the H+ when i have a HSPAP (HSPA+) connection. i'm using the stock settings that were configured when i put my att sim in the phone.
[HTC Butterfly S] iJesu:
Can anyone recommend a good case? thanks
[HTC Butterfly S] y3kesprit:
Guys I followed the instructions to root according to this thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2396248

I have managed to unlock bootloader. Next I did was to copy the root file on my sdcard to flash. However in recovery mode, I can't seem to choose the install zip from sdcard option. The error reads that it can't mount.

Anyone know a fix?
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
based on your description, i suspect your SD card is formatted as exFAT; it needs to be formatted as FAT32. i believe CWM can only read FAT32 formatted SD cards.
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Just flash a rooted rom bro.
[HTC Butterfly S] orb3000:
850US (ouch!)

Here is cheaper
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
EBay is
[HTC Butterfly S] Dark Sector:
it is weird though , because the official price is $800 in China
[HTC Butterfly S] orb3000:
Yup but customs make it higher and when you want the black model "yesterday" price is even higher lol
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I was saying the sake thing I am wondering if it's a scam
[HTC Butterfly S] agustaf4:
I paid $850 for mines . First release the 901e . Like I stated before the 901s adds lte support for bands.

LTE 800 / 1800 / 2600 - EMEA version

LTE 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - Asia version
[HTC Butterfly S] firespitta:
Any rumours on if or when this comes to the US? Maybe a droid dna2 ?
[HTC Butterfly S] Bilhouse:
I stupidly rushed and bought the Butterfly S 901e from a Taiwan eBay seller, not realising that the 901s with LTE was launching so soon in other Asian markets. Whats even more annoying is that the LTE bands would work in the UK too. Might have to sell my white Butterfly S now.

Also whats everyones colour preference? I initially chose the white one but I might get a Grey one later if the first one sells.
[HTC Butterfly S] WPMan:
I'm actually digging for the grey one. I'm planning to sell my red Butterfly mainly because of LTE and the big battery.
[HTC Butterfly S] Dark Sector:
I really liked the white version but when i saw the white Chinese version it was like turn off for me .. that's why i ordered the gray version .

There is a US seller at ebay selling all the four colors with free shipping

you might wanna check his store and ask him some questions .

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-Butterf...55055?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item232d8214af#shId
[HTC Butterfly S] orb3000:
I ordered the black colo, which actually is the only one with matte finish, the 3 others come in glassy finish.
[HTC Butterfly S] d.cortez:
i'm in the US and should have my Grey 901S today... will try to post pics at the end of my day.
[HTC Butterfly S] WPMan:
Where did you got yours? Price? They are still quite high as of now. :-S
[HTC Butterfly S] Seresai:
Just picked up my white HTC Butterfly S and am in love already. Coming from the One, which was already my favourite phone of the last few years, this phone just polishes everything up nicely. And that screen....

Here's a couple of photos just so you can see it in the wild. If anyone has any queries, just ask!
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
How's the speed and what's the price and where did u buy it
[HTC Butterfly S] Seresai:
Smooth as butter, haven't had a single lag on it doing anything at all so far. HTC Sync isn't picking it up yet on my Mac - may have to wait for an update or something.

Bought in China from a friend's shop, paid 3999 yuan, which is $651 USD according to xe.com!

Edit: And like magic, HTC Sync works again. Probably the stupid Mac as opposed to the software.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I'll stick to the old butterfly for now it's also lag free and smooth and gas sense 5. When development starts on the butterfly s I will buy
[HTC Butterfly S] xheavenic:
was just wondering if the nillkin cases for butterfly S 901e will fit the 901s ?

or is it going to be like the previous butterfly where x920e and x920d have different dimensions hence different cases :confused:
[HTC Butterfly S] Seresai:
I'm not too sure. I picked up a really nice translucent crystal white case from a Chinese manufacturer called Nairuide, and in the description it says it fits both models. However, I've only tried it on my 901e.
[HTC Butterfly S] orb3000:
Dev already has started mate, it starts with dumping the ROM ;)

I got the Nilkin and according to seller it fits both models, will confirm that on Friday
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
When you got your butterfly s from negrielectronics was the box open or it came sealed?
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Open. They open before shipping. To assure its not shattered, and it boots.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I ordered my red one I jus wanted to know. I am still keeping my old HTC butterfly x920d because I am not sure if I will unlock my bootloader when it reaches

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I still think they should seal it back when they open it
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Ur right. Lol. They should reseal it. Especially being how expensive it is!!
[HTC Butterfly S] Dougi:
hey guys,

been reading, some pages .. of this usefull thread.. don't have time to read the entire 38 pages..

question >>> has anyone ordered an Butterffly S 901 S ( LTE ) to france, and is LTE working... , i guess yes..

i saw this prices on EBAY >> HERE

545 € ... it's international right ??

really thinking of buying this phone , but LTE is great to use, browsing is way faster with it ...

Anyway , thanks in advance.. :) .. if i get the phone you have a themer ;)
[HTC Butterfly S] koniiiik:
Actually, you can get the same phone from the same seller cheaper by nearly 60 USD here. I ordered mine from them, they shipped by fedex priority, so it took about two weeks.

Can't help you with LTE though, we don't have that here in Slovakia yet. d-:
[HTC Butterfly S] Dougi:
think i'll go for it ..

thanks a lot , same t-dimension seller..
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
Isn't there any one with a s off method
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Not for the butterfly s yet. Theres 3 out now that i know of. Revone, moonshine, and facepalm. And actually theres juopunutbear s-off as well. I tried the revone. Its a no go. It will come. Especially being how we have sd card.
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
My butterfly s should be here this week and there is no s off:mad:
[HTC Butterfly S] zounduser:
Ya, but there is unlockable bootloader. And recoveries, and roms, and some mods. Lol. Enough to hold u over.
[HTC Butterfly S] FYL21:
accidentally spilled some juice and a little bit got into the left speaker, fortunately it still works. Even though it isn't waterproof like the original I think it still has some resistance.

Audio quality is great at low volumes but disappointed with the distorted bass output at higher volumes for some songs - very similar problem that Qualcomm i9505 GS4 had (see thread in Troubleshooting section). I tried PowerAMP and Neutron and there is still this distortion if volume is greater than 11/15 (I find 12/15 to be my optimal listening volume for IEMs). Problem is alleviated if you use higher impedance over-ear headphones as opposed to IEMs or earbuds (around 14/15 I don't hear such distortion).
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I wonder if we have to relock the bootloader to get OTA updates?
[HTC Butterfly S] daorderdillon:
I have received my beast
[HTC Butterfly S] alfa7d:
I have a question about htc weather. after updating for about 15 min (let us said it is now 40c, after 15 min the widget show it 34c" may be default " , and again after re-update .... etc ) and this happen all the time !!
[HTC Butterfly S] vegetaleb:
I hope it won't be letdown by XDA devs like Butterfly.

Anyway any sign of purple tint in low light? ISO 600 and more
[HTC Butterfly S] FYL21:
not that I know of, but white balance can be inaccurate... tends to be a bit too yellow and not enough red under indoor lowlight. Although the camera lacks OIS, the software anti-shake function works well (I think it picks a sharp image out of several). Unfortunately you can't adjust white balance or anything in this mode.

After looking at some of my videos, where I was walking it does indeed seem like the camera is using electronic stabilization in video mode. There is a slight distortion that moves around, a bit like videos stabilized on YouTube's editor. Or maybe it's a CMOS jelly shutter artifact.

Haven't rooted or anything yet but such a shame there is a lack of development here. I think it's worse because not as many people buy BS as much as the original Butterfly which is still very popular. (HTC Taiwan was giving out free water bottles, towels and bags with the purchase of a Butterfly, they only did that with the Butterfly s this month) The thing is most Butterfly users are casual ie. it appeals to girls a lot.

This will probably be HTC's last high-end phone that has 3 buttons! :(
[HTC Butterfly S] bervin:
does anyone know if it is possible to fully unroot and lock back the bootloader to warranty valid state?