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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_mullet:
Is it just me, or is there a lack of diversity when it comes to ROMs for the n4? I have been using the nexus lineup since the nexus s, and it seemed back then, and with the galaxy nexus, there was more variety. As in sense ROMs or xperia ROMs, miui etc... With the n4 its miui or aosp variants like AOKP or cm10.

I was a flashoholic for sure back then but now it rarely seems like its worth the effort to try new ROMs out. I typically find one that is stable, and I stick to that for weeks or perhaps a couple of months. There is the odd new feature added to these new ROMs that's interesting, but nothing ever drasticly different.

Don't get me wrong, I love the ability to dump some lines of code in and have an LTE device, or benchmark near what the new s4 puts down, I do like the phone, but why no ports?? Even now there are 4.2.2 xperia ROMs on devices out there, why no n4 love? I have been waiting forever for an alternative lock screen (bb10 or lg's) that I don't think will ever come. Just find it weird.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
many of the developers love the pure android side of it in the first place, thats why they are here. and ports just arent the same, and dont run as well as a native rom. if you want a port, see what you could do to build one, id try it if you put one out :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j_mullet:
I have thought about trying to port. I don't believe I have the skills to get this done, nor the time to gain said skills. I just wonder, is this perhaps due to the fact that this is an lg device, and the others were Samsung? I would think not, but I don't know enough to say for sure.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
that does make things harder. writing new drivers probably wouldnt be worth it, among other things. that is, unless the developer really wanted that port :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DirgeExtinction:
When I was on my GNex, I don't remember any Sense/TouchWiz/Blur ROMs, at least not functional.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 7TimesCursed:
You bought a nexus 4, but didn't want AOSP?

If you want a different lock screen, there's apps for that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
None of the ports would ever get into a useable state or be a fully functional daily driver.

It's easier to have a samsung/htc/whatever and go cyanogenmod when you want the closest-to-stock feel, and you'd also have variations of stock roms (sense, tw..).

I don't think the situation was different in the galaxy nexus forum than it is now here, but i do remember that every once in a while threads about how "all roms are the same" would pop up.

And a last point, i don't get this flashing habbit. There's nothing wrong in sticking to 1 rom for a long time, it only means it's stable and it has all the features you actually use/need. *It's a phone, not a toy, if you're bored during your days maybe it's time to find a hobby or maybe start dating or smth. , or just get another non nexus phone and use it to satisfy your flashoholic needs with buggy ports.

*not being rude..
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tweaked:
No Diversity?

I believe that Diversity starts here.

PIE? Halo? Just a couple off the top of my head.

I would rather have stable and new innovations rather then buggy and every option CM can add thrown at me. Hence why I own a Nexus.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BeyondExistence:
Don't forget Ubuntu Phone, that's pretty far from an AOSP ROM. Most other phones besides Galaxy Nexus don't even have a usable port of this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ghostrid3r:
Nothing to see here... Just another lazy window shopping end-user with very little knowledge on how developing works trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Akhil:
Human beings can never be satisfied.

(Tendency of human beings)

Exynos S4 users are crying for AOSP based ROM and here nexus 4 users are crying for some OEM based ROM.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oSandmaNo:
It happens.

On Moto forums people cry for sense ROM. On HTC forums people cry for touch wiz. On Samsung forums people cry for MotoBlur.

(This may or may not be real but when I was in the moto section before there were so many threads asking for a Sense port)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eqjunkie829:
I would love a perfectly functioning sense rom for the nexus 4 but I highly doubt that will ever happen. Then again the reason I bought this phone was not to have manufacturer and carrier restrictions like the other ones do.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunder2132:
As a former Nexus S 4G and GNex owner, I agree with him. I don't flash roms anymore because I'm bored with them. I picked up another Nexus phone because I know from experience that Nexus phones push the limits of android, and I just don't feel that about the N4. I'm very thankful for all the devs that are out there, but most of the ROMs coming out for the N4 are large group roms (PA, CM10.1, AOKP) and are not made specifically for our device. ROMs that are made specifically for our device lack diversity.

With the HTC Evo 4G I was trying every ROM out there, and when ICS was released I was on the cutting edge with it, and upgraded to the NS4G because of the way it handled ICS. I then switched all over the place looking for more speed and stability, eager to try out every new feature. Then came the GNex, with Jelly Bean first being released, it was again an adventure of trying new things and having an active development community building for it.

The Nexus 4...I don't know. Other than aesthetics I don't think it's as good of a phone for me as the GNex was. The same core of ROMs run on both phones, but the Galaxy Nexus had a lot more storage.

I still like my phone, but I almost feel like I lost a hobby.

In response to the "get a hobby / start dating" comment. I'm married, work a ton, and have a few hobbies, but I still liked tinkering with my phone during my free evenings.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bleuwave:
Yeah, where's all the 13 y/o developers (jk) who used to use the kitchen to make cute roms with custom everything (fonts wallpapers bootanimations dialer you name it) and really stand behind the ROM . As much as other big respectable devs who build from source like to ridicule them, I actually really miss them.

I see illusion ROM kinda doing it right now for the nexus 4 and love it. :) hopefully more come for us...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] altoprime:
you have a point....but stock android with optimization is what most people download the roms for and get nexus 4 in first place (for many ppl)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
Well you said it, galaxy nexus had jelly bean. There were no big updates during the era of the nexus 4, but give it a bit of time till KLP (or whatever it's gonna be called) arrives, none of those buggy touchwiz or sense roms will interest you. Oh and it's gonna be exclusive to a few devices (nexus line and GE phones)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drakester09:
I'd rather have developers pushing the boundaries of AOSP (so everyone can enjoy them) than investing time in a proprietary and in the end, lackluster result compared to the stock experience.

Unless the device is a direct relative, you won't see a good port of any OEM firmware.

I believe stock has a great level of quality and that can be seen on the polls, most people using pure stock.

Also we have great Roms that build upon AOSP and our device is first party supported (see PA). With features like HALO, privacy controls and others, they are delivering great improvements across all devices.

In the end, if you want the best AOSP experience, get a Nexus.

If you want the best Touchwiz experience, get S4.

If you want the best Sense experience, get One.

Etc.

If you really need a OEM overlay, I guess you have the wrong device, friend.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunder2132:
I just installed PA with HALO to try to prove my thoughts wrong, and there's really no way to get rid of HALO? It's annoying and intrusive, I absolutely hate it, and it just sits there. I went to hide it, and it still just sits on the edge of my screen. Gah! It makes me claustrophobic. I realize that this isn't a popular opinion as everybody raves about HALO, but I can't stand it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lowrider262:
Same here, I couldn't stand it for more than 5 minutes when I tried it. I even tried to like the whole pie craze, but after 2 days I got sick of swiping to use the navigation buttons, it just felt like extra work. I mean don't get me wrong the PA team are absolute geniuses at what they do, but it just wasn't for me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ulver:
You can use PA without halo.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] El Daddy:
Dear people,

XDA is not a supermarket, it's a developer forum. It was made for people to help each other to better their devices. Not to show up and complain that what you want isn't in stock.

If you feel something you want isn't readily available, learn something and do it yourself!

The internet is full of guides and how-to's. Once you spend some time researching, you'll come to realize that doing what some of the great devs around here accomplish takes time and a great deal of effort. Especially since none of them require anything in return from the users enjoying their work.

Maybe then you'll understand how disrespectful posts like this are.

That is all,

-El Daddy
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bleuwave:
This is not the development section.

That is all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
He has a point though. The only thing that is stopping more development is the users. The nexus is a developers device. So learn to develop for it.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zainiak:
the entire forum is a dev forum
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RohanM:
@ OP - there is a Xperia Z rom for N4, I am using it.. Ya & I also wanted more ports like sense, xperia... stock Android feels boring after some time... so plane & basic...

U can try xperia rom - go here.http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2145269

It's based on CM 10.1 & xperia themed.. u can also apply any other CM compatible theme from play store... :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] siddroid:
I owned 3 HTC phones before and all I did was flash newer android version cm rom nighties to upgrade to ICS JB etc as all skin based OEM companies delay updates and never officially support major android upgrades . Naturally the nightlies had bugs and issues so I spent most of my time not using the actual phone but researching, flashing bug fixes etc.

After having owned the N4 for close to six months I am finally using my phone as a smart phone instead of trying to get to that illusive perfect/latest state. Plus there are tonnes of true software innovations happening here both from Google like Now and developers - PA, Halo, Privacy Guard, PIE. Instead of gimmicky software features from Samsung especially.

I love to be in this state of smartphone high and for me the grass is green on the vanilla side.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
This is the most meaningful post ever, soo deep :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunder2132:
No disrespect was meant by my comments, and I hope that none was taken. I've done program and app development, as well as done a few custom builds of CM10 and one port. None of my Android stuff was good enough or unique enough to merit a release (I had a working CM10.1 build for the Sprint GNex, I just got it working a day or two after someone else beat me to it), so I never released it here. What I'm saying is, I'm not recognized, but I know what kind of work and dedication goes into making a quality ROM release, and I'll never intentionally disrespect people who can dedicate themselves to it.

Like I said before, I feel like the groups are doing the heavy lifting, and most of the smaller releases (by single developers or smaller groups) are cherry picks from the big group ROMs. That's not bad, it's just boring. I miss the days when guys like Prelude Drew (Andrew Boren), Peter Alfonso, and Kush (Deck, not Koush, though he's great too, talk about an app developer who pushes the limits of Android) were releasing new nightly builds that were really changing the way my device worked.

There are still areas where development are thriving, kernel releases, app development, themes, and for that I'm grateful. Android and smartphone hardware have just come so far that the golden days of the flashaholic are coming to an end.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Why always say the same think.you bought nexus line and dont like aosp...i love aosp i abandon iphone to use the ics+ experiance...but i have nexus...the best dev phone...and if its posible i wanna try every rom available..the OT have a point...we only have aosp,cm,aokp..nothing more...whatever rom you flash you get the same features...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atulalvenkar:
Lot more storage? How so? AFAIK Galaxy Nexus was also a 16GB device.

Anyways about your other questions.

Nexus S came with GB and it was a big deal when ICS came as it had hw accelerated UI and new Holo interface.

GNex came with ICS and got JB which again was a huge change under the hood i.e. Project Butter

Nexus 4 hasn't seen any huge release. It came with 4.2 and is still on 4.2.

There aren't many 4.2 devices yet in the market. Just S4 as of now with HTC One getting update as we speak. Because of this it's difficult to build Sense or TW ROMs for nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thunder2132:
GNex = 32GB

My N4 = 8GB

Most everything that I do is streaming, so usually I don't miss the storage, but for things like nandroid backups it becomes a pain.

I completely understand why there's a lack of diversity, and it's not that I want a port (although a modern port would be nice) it's that I miss when every release was different. As an example, I have a hard time telling the difference between XenonHD and Xylon. I have no urge to try a new ROM because CM works great for me. Again, I'm not complaining, per se, I just expected another development phone (practically unstable due to being so bleeding edge) but what I got is a rock-solid, stable, device that I don't have to play with every night. See what I mean about not complaining? I love that my biggest problem is that bluetooth cuts out every couple of days and I have to restart (every kernel, every rom, even bone stock) but I miss when my phone was a hobby.

That being said I was gifted a Droid 2 Global the other day, I'm looking forward to seeing what I can do with that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Roastmeat:
"Hey guys, new rom!"

Features: Based on some old one

Most stable, Most features

best best best!

-----

This is basically what is happening in the dev forums

WHAT ARE THE DIFFERENCES? Why should I pick your ROM?

"Read the comments"

pfft
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
A lot of guys here are spoiled by the stability of our roms.. I guess if we had buggy roms with "what's not working" lists you wouldn't have time to think about other stuff...

People with OEM skinned phones would kill to have a bugfree aosp rom... Many have not been on that boat, or a long time passed and they forgot what it was like to flash zips every couple of days that would fix something and break another...

Take a look at the S4 and htc One forums and see the number of people trying to convert their devices to google edition.

Any aosp rom can be themed to look like touchwiz, sense or whatever, but if you're looking for features that come with those skins, then you bought the wrong phone, yes, aosp is not for everyone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RohanM:
Again we are nexus users. So like u said if u have any rom that has a not working bug list no one will try that. As nexus has always updated os. One will simply revert to stock. Ya the situation may change after 2 years may be when all bells and whistles will be for N5-6 ;)

When I was using LG P690 that phone did not receive ics update so I jump in custom roms and all... But for N4 we already have the best can android has to offer... :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Tattered:
Is there away to dim the lights on the bottom buttons?

[ SGH-I337 SlimBean ]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] oddspec:
Don't think so some phones support it thru custom kernels ( older phones ) but I ahvent seen it for a Samsung phone it a while only optoin is the amt of time they r on or shut em off
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajao:
I'm having a bit of a problem installing twrp. When I'm done installing I try booting into recovery but I get a dead android icon. Anything I could be doing wrong?
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananapeapod:
Is your bootloader unlocked?
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajao:
Yes.
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananapeapod:
Are you using the Droid Razr HD Utility for installing TWRP?
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ajao:
No
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananapeapod:
I highly recommend you use it, I was having issues until I used that utility and everything worked great after that... sorry I should have said that explicitly when I posted the link to it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Soldier 2.0:
Just wondering if keeping these lights on at all times wastes that much battery power.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jbdan:
Like set the setting so it's on all the time while the screen is on? I really don't think it's that much of a power draw but of course there are those out there who want to sip every ounce out of the battery so they turn them off or set to 2 sec. I use the 6 sec setting myself and am extremely pleased with battery life of this phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] devynbf:
I noticed it does in fact suck a bit of battery (I know on the Note 2, sucked an unreasonable amount).

I just keep them off at all times and it has gave me about 5% more juice.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Soldier 2.0:
I decided to keep them off. That way I cannot blame them for battery drainage.

Please close this thread.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] yaz360:
samsung s4 capacitive buttons

people plz help , my samsung s4 capacitive buttons lights are not working, even when i turn them always on in the options.

what to do ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Deleted member 2747343:
that happens to me sometimes restart your phone a few times if that doesnt work you might have to reflash a rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] yaz360:
sir, do u mind posting a link on how to reflash a rom? i checked couple of tutorials it seem a bit complicated and risky.

p.s tried to restart the device couple of times and it didnt work.

many thanks
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] +Riantic<-.->+:
My captivate has been working like a champ for better than two years now, aside from possible phoneco problems and the smershingly infuriating wth speaker problem. I was pretty conservative with the apps I installed for most of that time, but have been less so more recently. I did program a simple app to see if I could, and was just starting to think about trying rooting it with the freedom to renew the contract and get a better fone too, but recently it has been rebooting repeatedly, giving erroneous battery condition info, and having problems connecting to the voice and data nets. So my question is going to be do I need a new handset or is it the battery needing replacement and I can use the money to get a laptop that I need instead.

details:

My first suspicion towards the battery was the erroneous battery condition info, specifically that it was showing a battery level of 0% but able to work. The phone did seem to boot more normally instead of rebooting to airplane mode with a cheaper Chinese replacement battery, but then starting having the same rebooting/radio problems. Before booting the replacement battery, I noticed the original battery oddly bulged where the replacement was not. After booting the replacement battery, the replacement battery bulged oddly in a similar manner. I don't know to handle bulging batteries for heat or not. I have 2 more unbulging replacement batteries from an ebay auction package, but I was not happy with their charge life when I tried using one of them before.

Now the phone seems to work ok on usb power.

Some of the recently non-conservative apps installed recently were AnkiDroid, Gunsmith (didn't work and I uninstalled it), Sudoku something, Mind Games, and mind calculator. Some of the other apps that were champing it up along with the phone no problem 100% were AskPhil, US Army Survival Guide, Brain Genius Deluxe, Google Goggles and Sky, jjReader, a ton of music related apps, and the update to Android2.1. I was planning to update to 2.2 soon, but the update to 2.1 was a little bit of a hassle so I didn't take the time.

So the questions really:

should I be able to get away with uninstalling my recent app installs and installing 2.2 or should I start planning a weekend for a more drastic reset and rooting procedure? I am somewhat versed in unix style systems, but prefer windows, and am not very knowledgeable about kernels of either, will I need more than a weekend to figure out the root and wipe out?

can batteries go bad from a bad app or does the phone maybe have a more serious problem?

Have people been noticing 4G as usefully faster, I use maybe 1Gb of data a month, should I go for a new phone and thaw my 897 later?

What do people think about the programmability and functionality of the newer windows phones? App programming for Android is maybe twice as messy a my experience in .net desktop frameworks, should I figure to get a windows phone?

That is a lot, thanks for reading and any answers or suggestions you have.

riantic
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Val D.:
- Your problem is not app related. Try replacing battery with original Samsung one, don't rely on cheap Chinese batteries.

- Check your charger, may be going bad and bugging phone's charging circuit.

- Install CyanogenMod CM10.1 Stable Android 4.2.2 and see if the problem persists.

- IMHO, no future in Windows phone OS, they hold <3% of mobile phones market.

- A new faster phone is always better, but first try to resurrect Captivate, it's still not a bad phone.
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] +Riantic<-.->+:
somewhat reassuring

Thanks, I guess it would be better that the apps can't fry the battery, although that means my case is more something hardware malfunction. The Chinese replacement battery is working ok but doesn't hold a charge as long as the original.

Do you know if the batteries have a built in voltage sensor or if the phone was possibly doing the error voltage sensing?

I don't necessarily think to trust the AT&T+Samsung/Samsung approved android build more than one in widespread use from the internet, besides the consideration that they would want to keep my business. Is the CyanogenMod you mention more or less observation intrusive than the stock? Is it worth the risk for any specific 4.2.2 features?
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Val D.:
- Yes, batteries have their own charging protection circuit with voltage control

- Android 4.2.2 is better in any way - speed, compatibility and features

- No risk with CM ROM, it is very stable and you can always go back to stock in case you don't like CM
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gado45:
I have same problems ever since I don't use stock kernel .. I replace the battery but problem persist even with a brand new battery.. I blame the kernels and almost every 4.2 kernel out there is based on semaphore .. The problem is killing slowly the new batt
[Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Val D.:
Millions of Captivate phones use Semaphore based kernel with no battery issues. The problem you guys have is hardware related.