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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
I would do the second option. If you activate smartphones first it will knock the basic phones off and then you will definitely have to get them put back on. However, if you switch the sim cards over before activation it should just activate them on the line that the sim card came from. Thus, your basic phones should still be active and the M8's will be on the unlimited lines. Either way it should work. But the second option is better because you will never lose service on the basic phones.

The way activations work is when you buy a new smartphone they put the ESN and the sim card in the system. The old phone, regardless if its smart or basic remains active until the new phone is turned on and activated. Once its activated its replaces the existing phone. So if you switch the sim first, it won't push the basic phone off because your using a sim from another line. Hope this helps.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] urthling:
<bit the bullet!>
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kensai:
I'm in the same situation except only one of my basic phone is eligible and one of my smart phone is eligible. Also did u use the RMN30 for 30% off?

My plan:

1. Move upgrade to basic phone.

2. Upgrade both phones.

3. Activate in store then swap out for new sims since my current phone has a regular sim.

The only reason I'm activating phones is that since I'm transferring my upgrade I'm afraid it might touch the plan where the phones are coming from. Just feels safer to me.

Am I OK w this course? Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] urthling:
This morning, I transferred an upgrade from one of my ULD phones to a basic phone and then upgraded two basic phones to the M8. According to posts in this thread, transferring an upgrade from an ULD phone to a basic phone does not void the ULD (it only changes the upgrade date). It wasn't clear in your post if you were upgrading two basic phones, or a basic and a smartphone. Regardless, if you are upgrading one of your phones directly with ULD (not through an alternate upgrade), you will lose ULD.

And yes, I did use the VERIZON30 code and the order went through fine. I'll post back once I swap out the phones hopefully with a success story!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kensai:
Nice!

I'm planning on transferring my upgrade from one of my ULD to a basic phone and the other basic phone already has an upgrade available.

If I wait till April 9, both basic phones would be eligible for upgrade but I don't know how long the B1G1 will last. I called verizon twice n both times I got completely different answer. One said new promo every month n the other told me in mid may... Go figure.

Do you happen to remember what options you picked for the new plans on the two new phones? Thanks again
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] urthling:
Ah, then the same thing I did this morning. As far as paid options, the only thing I chose was the 2 GB data plan. I also didn't want to risk the promos expiring, and I was a little taken aback by the final amount due (with the upgrade fees, taxes, etc.), but it was still a good deal overall.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kensai:
LOL just can back from a corporate store and they totally shot me down. Told me that in a normal case, a one on one alternate upgrade would work but since I'm using a special promo for BOGO, it's not gonna work. N they wouldn't have taken the 30% promo code also. Oh well, gonna get it done online tonight.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ULEWZ:
Went to Bestbuy today after my bad experience at the corporate Verizon store, and the first guy said, it is impossible to do what I want. He sent me to another person, and she did it no problem. Why are there so many unwilling people? So morale of the story is, keep at it until you find someone who is willing and knowledgeable and stay away from mother Verizon corporate.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
I don't think its that their unwilling. I think its ignorance. A lot of people don't know about it. Glad it worked for you.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fillyo:
So, this worked for me. I added a new line with a 2gb data plan and got the S5. Activated the S5 on the new line. Then, we did a swap party. Me and the wife did a SIM swap, she on my S4 and me on her S3. Then, I swapped the S5 to my line, and the S3 on the new line with 2gb data. Waited 2 days, called Verizon this morning to cancel data on the new line, and activated a flip phone on a basic $9.99 line, and our existing 3 lines with unlimited data are all intact. Success! Loving the S5, screen is stellar and TW is more polished, phone flies.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wonderrx:
Here is where I am, any/all suggestions welcomed.

I have a GS3 with ULD still in contract, just beat the wire to get that done in July 2012.

I upgraded another dumb phone line to the GS5, the local store activated it using a new sim on the 2GB plan

We have not touched the GS3.

My friend who has worked at this independent store suggested that on day 15 I call in and ask them to do the phone switch after the GS5 is out of its return period, they felt VZW watched less closely after that point.

Then that I should call back in a few days and drop the 2GB plan and reactive the dumb phone.

The friend said VZW is watching stores closely for some of this kind of stuff, they wanted me to call VZW direct to do it also so it didn't count as a knock against their location.

Thoughts/suggestions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Never heard of them catching anyone. Its not against the rules, its a loophole. Now if you took it off the dumb line and sold it, your probly getting a bill for the full price.

As far as waiting 15 days, you may get charge $30 dollars for the data plan doing it that way.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 318sugarhill:
I agree. No need to wait 15 days. This what I did with my S4.i added a line. I have a dumbing line out of contract now... So I'm gonna try to swap the new line and out of contract line to dump $10 a month.

The only important step is to make sure you activate the new phone on the new line.... Or upgrade line FIRST. then you are free to switch and dump the data plan. I did it the day the phone arrived and that way you save $30 in data. You pay it up front and get credited your next bill
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jihoonie:
Just did this today and got myself a brand new S5. Thanks OP. The rep at a private retailer said he did the same thing to keep his ULD when he upgraded to the M8. I even asked him if he'd be cool doing this for me when I buy my wife a new S5 off Amazon and he said he'd gladly do it though he wouldn't get the commission. I'd highly recommend going to an authorized Verizon retailer as these guys seem to care about the commission rather than bowing the big Corporate office.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] taz1458:
Just an FYI here's what I did to get my gs4 in late December. Did an alternate upgrade on the dumb phone, accepted all the data package crap, activated it on that line. Went to my car. Shut the gs4 and my Galaxy nexus off. Put my sim card from my nexus into the gs4 and off I went. Reactivated the dumb phone, called to cancel data and haven't had a problem since.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] robsonline:
I went to a retail store last night to do an alternate upgrade from a line with UDP to a dumb phone line, and the CSR at first said it would not work. She and I stepped through the process and she said it looks like it will work. Then she said I just want to clear this with my manager. The manager was a royal jerk. He said my unlimited data would drop off if I extended my plan. I asked him how and to what? The contract does not show anything about dropping my unlimited data on that line. I did not agree to drop unlimited data on that line. Show me where it is? He just kept repeating the same thing that if I extend my contract it will drop my unlimited data. Now his CSR would not do it because his manager had an attitude so I just left. I am thinking about just doing it online, and picking it up in the store pickup.

Update: I went online and ordered the two HTC One (M8) phones last weekend (BOGO), and did an in store pickup. When I went in to the store (the same one from the night before), I told them I wanted to do a device swap after the activation. The CSR paused a moment, shrugged his shoulders and said ok. It took him about an hour to activate both phones, and then swap them over to my UDP lines. Then he reactivated my dump phones back on those lines. Every step of the way, he showed me I still have unlimited data on both of my lines. If the manager was not such a jerk, I would have had them the night before! I was able to do this with two phones at the same time with a BOGO free, so I can verify that it still works. I would just start the process online, and then go to the store. Less hassle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jazzyjames:
I just did this on thursday with my brother, well not getting the phone from verizon, my brother had a Samsung Fascinate and got a Note 2 for $1 at Best Buy, we went to best buy transferred his upgrade to my moms line that was a dumb phone, Put her on a temp 2 GB data plan, then walked over to Verizon told them we got the phone for my mom and she doesn't like it and said he could have it, they made a sim card for my bro we walked out did a *228 again on my moms phone and all was well.

I have argued with Verizon reps all the time about it, and they are just focused on getting you off unlimited data, so if it was me, just go in upgrade the dumb phone to the smart phone you want, then just go home swap sim cards and move the dumb phone back to its proper line. The less they know the less they can harass you about it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rwc95:
This method still works for anyone wondering just did this today at best buy to get me a m8 they were super cool told them how I wanted to keep my unlimited data they did the alternate upgrade from my line to my other line activated the new phone then switched it out to my normal number and put my dumbphone back on the extra line and all is good.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wonderrx:
Just went through this process with success.

1. Upgraded a dumb phone line (Line A) with an upgrade to a new smartphone that that line had available

2. Added the $30 2gb "feature pack" to that line.

3. Did nothing to my current old smartphone (Line B)

4. I waited (and did a phone return for a different smart phone in the meantime) until the return period was over

5. Day 15 I called and did a device swap moving new smartphone to my line (Line B), moved old smartphone to what was the dumb phone line (Line A), kept data active

6. Day 16 I called in and deactivated feature pack on the old dumb phone line (Line A), and did another device swap moving the dumb phone back to the line/service and taking he nearly 2 year old smartphone out of service.

7. Day 17 I logged in to VZW website to make sure I still had unlimited data, sure do!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] paradisewasted:
I can confirm that the method works ;) Thanks guys!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jidcman:
This is my situation, a year and a half ago, I let a friend use my unlimited data plan and gave her an out of contract thunderbolt to use it. I went with PagePlus, I didn't port my number and she got a new phone number and was able to keep unlimited data.

I'm now trying to keep my unlimited data because she's going with straight talk and wants to port her number to straight talk.

I activated a rezound today as a new line and was planning on porting her number to straight talk after Verizon swaps my unlimited data to the new line I activated today.

A chat conversation and three customer service representatives told me it can't be done, I will lose unlimited data because it cannot be transferred to a different number and my friend needs her number to be ported to straight talk.

What I'm I doing wrong?

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Far as I know it can't be done. You can take over her phone number and keep unlimited data but you can't put it on a different phone number.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jidcman:
It sounds more to me like they're not willing to do it, not like their system doesn't allow such swap...

Anyone else with a different experience or outcome in a situation like mine?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
Sounds like you're in a Catch-22. They might be able to assign a new number to the account, but then your friends number would no longer be available to port out. If you try to port the number out first, the contract will be automatically canceled as soon as the port happens.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
The only way you can take over and the unlimited data line is with an assumption of liability. However your girlfriend will not be able to keep her phone number if you do that. If you try to assign a new number to the line you will lose the data. Your only two options are to take her number or lose our unlimited data. I used to work for them and I'm 99.9% sure that this is accurate.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Credit Clown:
Can I do this if my other line has no data and just has normal minutes and text? I'm assuming not because when you switch back to the other phone, my S4 wouldn't have data afterward.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Yes you can. It's explained in the main thread.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Credit Clown:
Well, I'm reading the OP and it says 2gb data line, not no data line. So I can get a smartphone upgrade without having data on that line? I didn't know you could do that. Sorry if I'm being difficult, I'm just making sure lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
You left one thing out.

Once the AOL is done you can request the number to be changed to a new one, so you don't have to live with the old number.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
His problem is not that he can't live with the number, is that his girlfriend wants to keep it when she leaves for another company. So although what you said is accurate, I doesn't apple here because then the GF loses the number.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Credit Clown:
Sorry, one more quick question. What if I have multiple unlimited data phones that have upgrades? Can I upgrade those lines off that one non-unlimited data line? Thanks for your help
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Yes but I would not do them all on the same day. That would look pretty strange on Verizon's end.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Redflea:
Does the transfer of the upgrade from a ULD line to a another line always require a human at Vzw or Best Buy to do it, our can you do it online? And has anyone done one of these upgrade transfers/upgrades at a Costco? Any reason why they couldn't?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
You can do it on the internet or at Costco. Both have been done

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Redflea:
Thanks!

I found the upgrade transfer step on VZW's site, and found that it's really an upgrade swap - my wife's line got my son's upgrade date when I transferred her upgrade to his phone. Makes sense.

I didn't continue online as we're going to Costco this weekend to take the plunge and wasn't sure if confirming the online transfer of the upgrade would require me to continue the upgrade transaction right there online...

At Costco we'll transfer the upgrade to my son's line, get the S5 upgrade on his line and then swap the phones back so my wife gets the S5. She is way too excited about getting the S5 (she doesn't care about root, luckily), like a little kid at Christmas. When did my wife become a smartphone geek!? :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] conanbarb:
Thanks for putting this thread together Shaftamle. I was able to transfer my upgrade from my Unlimited line to a different line at Costco yesterday without any issues and still keep Unlimited. :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thesoldier:
^Just did the same as the guy above except did it at Best buy. Still have unlimited according to my Verizon. Thanks for the write up!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scheirere:
Anyone tried this with a business plan? My phone is on my family's business plan which caused problems when I went to best buy once to use an upgrade. They said the couldn't do anything for me since it was a business plan. Seemed odd as they plan was basically the same as a family plan (with 5 lines on it).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
As long as the plan shares minutes and not data you should be fine. I'm not positive though.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hermdresh:
Shaftamle,

I wanted to thank you again for posting this information to the forum. I purchased the HTC M8 from Costco on Monday, followed your instructions and have a new phone with unlimited data.

I will add that the phone I upgraded was being used by my sister in one city while I am in another. Once the switch was completed, my sister called Verizon to indicate that the device change had been completed. This step was critical before either my new phone or her existing phone could be used.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
No problem! Glad I could help!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skranendonk:
How would this work if I were to purchase online? Also has anyone been "audited" and charged for their device? I attempted to do this a a local radio shack and the lady wouldn't do it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] taz1458:
Transfer upgrade to whichever line is not unlimited, once you get the phone activate it on that line. Then shut both phones off, put your sim card in the new one, put the other sim back in the original and your good as gold. Have done it twice on my plan thus far with 0 issues. Once online, and once at RadioShack.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skranendonk:
The phone that does not have unlimited is a dumb phone. could I just do the device transfer online myself? and I'd have to activate the new phone on the dumb phone line first right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] taz1458:
Yup, just hit check upgrade eligibility wherever it is on there, then transfer upgrade to the dumb phone, upgrade your device. When you get it activate it on the dumb phone line, then shut both off. Put your sim card in the new one, reactivate dumb phone, then call Verizon and cancel your data package on the dumb phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Still works!

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skranendonk:
I attempted again and they were going to put my dumb phone on an individual plan with data which was 90 bones..is this correct? Then I just cancel the data? I am on a legacy alltel plan with 500 mins, unlimited everything else. 2 smartphones and a dumb phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wasuellc:
Ijust upgraded my G4 with unlimited to a HTC m8. Just told the guy at verizon what I wanted and he transferred unlimited to the new phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shaftamle:
Should only be 30 for the 2 GB data plan, which you then cancel. Make sure they just add the 2gb data package when you get the phone. After the switch you obviously don't need it so then it gets taken off. You don't need a new line or separate account.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skranendonk:
I wonder why I keep running into problems. When I tried the last time it wouldn't let them activate the phone due to the line I was upgrading being on a shared plan (alltel shared). They told me I had to either switch to vzw shared plan on all lines or put the dumb phone on a new individual line then upgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] spjetrovic:
What did you pay for the M8

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wasuellc:
[quote name="wasuellc" post=53982991]Ijust upgraded my G4 with unlimited to a HTC m8. Just told the guy at verizon what I wanted and he transferred unlimited to the new phone.[/QUOTE]<br />

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What did you pay for the M8<br />

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I was due for an upgrade, so got it for $199

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] questionquestion:
motomaker upgrade question

here is my situation:

1. on a family plan

2. I have unlimited, 2nd line does not

3. 2nd line eligible for upgrade

4. motomaker moto x upgrade cant deal with transferring upgrades so under advice of verizon chat, I ordered the upgrade with the other, non-unlimited line with the intention of activating it with my existing sim associated with my unlimited line once the phone arrives.

I have two questions:

1. both current phones have standard sims, while the new phone uses a nano sim. would I still be able to use the suggested method of activating new nano sim on non-unlimited line, turning off all phones, then putting my newly trimmed unlimited sim in the new phone and the old non-unlimited big sim back in the old non-unlimited phone? is there anything I'm clearly misunderstanding? sorry if the wording is confusing.

2. do I have to activate the new phone to the non-unlimited line first, or can I just put my unlimited line's sim in the new phone and activate it?

thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] u4icpain:
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What did you pay for the M8<br />

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I was due for an upgrade, so got it for $199

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Ummm... I'll drive to that verizon store now to make friends with this rep. Jeez they usually try to con you into getting rid of the unlimited data .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wasuellc:
If they do that, just ask to speak to another sales person. Seems to work for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mikepar:
Here's kind of a different scenario.

I have 4 lines 2 unlimited a 2 gig line and a dumb line.

I transfered the upgrade fron the dumb line to the 2 gig line which currently has a Iphone 4s. I ordered a g3 which i want for one of the unlimited lines (DNA). Which will be then swapped to the 2 gig plan in place of his iphone. When the phone arrives can I just activate it on the unlimited line with that sim ? Or do i have to use the 3g sim card from the iphone, or it sounds like they send you a new sim anyways. Would i activate the phone on the 2 gig plan with the new sim and just swap sims with the DNA ? Im sorry if it sounds confusing, because to me it is. Thanks all !!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] taz1458:
Activate on the 2 gig line, the shut both off and swap Sims. Just make sure you DO NOT activate on the unlimited line or their gone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mikepar:
Thanks man.