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[One (M7) General] hd2joel:
HTC is Sense, Sense is HTC. It's a Taiwanese company, Sence is the soul of the phone. It's much more than a skin as most have said in this thread. It's a core set of features, if you don't like sense don't by HTC. The One without Sense 5 is just another phone. With Sense 5 it's the phone that is winning every comparison & will go down as the best phone in android history. Those that like the stock version in their hearts just want an HTC made nexus & that is the closest they can get for now. It's a nexus 4 with FAR superior build quality, but it's not an HTC One without Sence 5 plain & simple.
[One (M7) General] dagamer34:
One version has 4.3 now, the other won't get it for 3 months and we'll be talking about how the Sense version of this phone won't be getting Key Lime Pie until Spring 2014.
[One (M7) General] rasstar:
What's funny is some of what google added has been available for years on android skins. Things like dial by name in the phone dialer and even Bluetooth avrcp 1.3. I tried out android 4.3 but I went back to sense. I like having my contact photos sync with Facebook among many more enhancements.
[One (M7) General] dagamer34:
Different priorities I suppose though it's when you have major updates like Android 4.0 or in the future 5.0 that I think many would rather not wait for new features like Google Now or Project Butter.
[One (M7) General] :
For me Sense is a relief, after using Nexus 4 with stock Android. Especially version 5 on One with beautiful condensed font, dialer, contacts and ironically BlinkFeed. De gustibus...
[One (M7) General] pepporony:
When I'm using Galaxy S1, I have no regret switch to things like CM or AOKP because touchwiz is just slow and ugly and I understand why people hate the "skinned" Android so much.

Things, however, changed when I switched to Xperia S and eventually One. I don't feel the need to run vanilla anymore. Using stock Android right now is a very boring experience for me.

(I do hate Sense old lockscreen that is on HTC One X, the one that you need to drag the icon to the "ring" to unlock. That thing is ugly)
[One (M7) General] SleemLDJ:
I'm happy for having this thread after beating my heart flashing and returning to sense. Back and forth. Not able to decide and most of the time, I end up back with my Nandroid backup of sense ROM.

What always popped in my head was that ......paying £450 for the HTC one and then installing GPE ROM to make it look like Nexus is a waste of moolah, why didn't I just buy the nexus for £250 instead ey.

I feel like taking sense off of HTC one is like ripping the phone off of it's skin and leaving it to run on it's skeleton.

...first off, it's blazzing fast. I tot sense 5 was going to be another thing clogging down this power house. But...no

...The keyboard is awesome, superb

...The camera is phenomenal, I don't care about zoe. I just feel like it performs better with it's sense chip

...BlinkFeed isn't s deal breaker, but I'm still finding a reason to wanna hate it, I can't find one.

...the music player is way better than GPmusic. The fact that I can play music "by folder" is more than enough.

...FM radio, oh. Awesome.

...IR blaster makes me play pranks changing things up in my house, fun times.

...I love the beautiful widgets. I hated sense 4+ too but HTC widgets are always sexy to look at. Samsung can learn from this.

...HTC email with "smart sync" is very smart.

...Under "usage", I can see call minutes and sms, awesome feature.

...I can move photos to diff albums in the photo gallery app itself.

...I can sync and merge Skype, whatsapp, Twitter and facebook users with my Google contacts...sweet.

...people app has inbuilt blacklist, blocks calls and sms and you can go back to review what blocked person called or sent sms. Awesome feature.

...lastly, the Car app. The best thing ever. Makes my life easier while driving, sometimes I don't even care about the onboard screen of the car.

All this and even more makes the sense complete what HTC One stands for. It is what the HTC one is defined by physically and mentally.

Btw, I think this thread should be made a sticky to help people like me who could not decide for a long time.
[One (M7) General] voyager_s:
Probably the only thing I would change about sense 5 UI is the app drawer vertical scrolling. It's not a bad implementation. It's one off the best ones but I just prefer the stock horizontal drawer style.

But I'm getting used to it anyway. Not a big complain.
[One (M7) General] deeevan:
I'm currently using Modaco.SWITCH and love the ability to explore and compare stock Android to Sense. The HTC One is my first Android phone, and that does colour the observations I make below.

- I prefer the lighter colour scheme of Sense ie. black text on white background. I noticed this the most in the Settings app, where everything looked exactly the same in GE just darker. The white/cyan on grey reminds me of the 1980s Hollywood view of "hackers" :laugh: Incidentally, I now realise how much of the great UI concepts (tabbed views, and swiping left/right to access them eg. Dialer) actually came from Google and not HTC.

- Speaking of the HTC dialer, predictive search by name and number is great.

- Playing with Google Calendar made me realise what's lacking in Sense. I love the ability to pinch and zoom, and can easily glance to see what events I've got coming up. In Sense, I can only read events for one day. Week view only has blobs of colour, while Google Calendar will also display the title.

- In Sense, I arranged my app drawer in a custom layout and was using it iPhone style with screens of apps/folders, with just widgets on the homescreens. In GE, the homescreen concept finally makes sense and serves a purpose (mostly because the app drawer is an annoying way to access a frequently used app).

- I don't understand the stock/Sense 5.1 "improvement" of keeping an app in the drawer if you've added it to your dock. Why do I want 2 copies of the same shortcut since the dock is always displayed? Again, this might be an iPhone user way of thinking.
[One (M7) General] sue4:
differences in features OR bugs?

Just converted partially (through custom ROM) from sense 4.2.2 to GE 4.3 and found that the last one do not have "WCDMA only" in the "mobile network" setting. The contact (People) cannot display from SIM (from Google+ is the least). Also, Google Keyboard (w/ gesture) does not work in Indonesian language (but works in english). Can anyone share the thoughts, to confirm or to deny? Thank you
[One (M7) General] eallan:
I get a kick out of people calling stock android "boring."

There is nothing you can do in sense that you can't do in stock android. If you're "bored" you have only yourself to blame.
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
Zoe and a few little HTC things but I get your point.

Stock Android is getting better and better.
[One (M7) General] bbedward:
Its not boring because HTC has a cool camera app tho ;) stock android is really good looking and functional
[One (M7) General] Wingzer:
Aside from me thinking the stock experience is better.

I bought I HTC One for the 32GB storage, best mobile display on the market and excellent build quality.

This is the best "nexus type" phone you can buy.
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
I always prefer stock, but Sense 5 gave me a run for my money this time.
[One (M7) General] Gorsty:
Sense 5 is a vast improvement over previous versions, but still Stock for me - just "feels" better.
[One (M7) General] eallan:
Lots of camera apps on the play store ;)
[One (M7) General] rasstar:
Lots of crappy camera apps on the play store.
[One (M7) General] robstunner:
mms.apk sends some really shotty picture messages on GPe ROM. if it wasnt for that (and my disinterest in using 3rd party apps for messaging) as well as "slightly less sharp" photos via camera, I would be on 4.3 GPe immediately.
[One (M7) General] Wingzer:
Just gone back to stock Sense 5 on the ARHD 12.1 ROM.

Must say I do love the Car application and blinkfeed is slowly growing on me.
[One (M7) General] ebratter:
I did the full GE conversion and update to 4.3 but ultimately decided that sense 5 was best for me so just flashed ARHD 12.1 on top. At least now I have latest hboot and all as waiting for the updates in the US is painful and the phone is running perfectly :D
[One (M7) General] robstunner:
Did the exact same here :)
[One (M7) General] godutch:
I am not willing to let go of sense because I like it too much but hopefully switch will be ready soon and can be incorporated into arhd because a little change can be nice
[One (M7) General] Hiro Nakamura:
Is it just me or do the Google Roms feel a bit more laggy when switching between homescreen and app drawer?

Although i like the animations in the GE Rom a lot more than in Sense.
[One (M7) General] Galactus:
No lag here, I'm using Nova Launcher
[One (M7) General] eallan:
Much less lag on GPe than anything else for me.
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
No lag here at all. Only have one issue. The stock android photo frame widget gives me problems. Once I choose pic it either freezes or makes it really tiny. Using a 3rd party app now. Everything else in 4.3 on this beast is great.
[One (M7) General] robstunner:
other than 500x300 MMS photos :)
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
What are you doing with the mms? How great does it have to look on your phone? Let's face it... If you're looking for a high quality photo... You probably aren't getting it from an mms.
[One (M7) General] robstunner:
ill admit that im complaining about it more than most, but that res is terrible. stock is at least double that, if not more.
[One (M7) General] vash1053:
Sense sucks, as it always has.
[One (M7) General] Hiro Nakamura:
Did you guys notice any sound quality difference between Sense and GE Rom when plugging in headphones ?
[One (M7) General] cc999:
Tried Pure GE 4.3 now back to Sense

I really tried to like the GE 4.3 rom but there is no comparison to the Sense rom.

I am back to Stock 4.1.2 on my Developers Edition. This was my 2nd go around with the pure

GE rom thinking that maybe 4.3 would be an improvement. The following are no BS observations of GE 4.3

vs. Stock Sense:

1 - Battery life - NO comparison Sense is much better. On 6 am check battery at 9 PM.

Same usage GE 4.3 had approx. 40% left Sense has 70%.

2 - Wifi NEVER shuts down on 4.3 unless you shut it off yourself. The Advanced option

setting to never for the wifi works perfectly on Sense, on 4.3 GE no effect, wifi just remains on.

This is a battery drain.

3 - Pictures are better on Sense period. I have done numerous tests and there again it is much

better on the Sense rom especially in low light.

4 - Recording is again much better on the Sense Rom. I think the GE rom has a problem with recording the audio

utilizing the wrong mic to record.

5 - The radio on the GE 4.3 rom is very spotty. Jumps from 1 - 4 to 0 bars in the same spot.

When fully connected on LTE its fast but it fluctuates like crazy. The Stock Sense radio is rock solid.

Switching from LTE to HSPA is seamless with no drop outs.

6 - Both roms are lag free

7 - No FM radio on the GE 4.3 rom

8 - Have to pay for an app to utilize the IR blaster. That app does not compare to the stock app on the Sense Rom.

9 - The Stock browser on the Sense rom is much better than Chrome. No comparison

10 - The stock music player (Not the Google Music Player) is fantastic. Sound on the Sense Rom is MUCH BETTER

than the GE 4.3 rom. The 4.3 sound is better than the GE 4.22 but still no comparison with beats on for the comparison.

I really wanted to like the GE 4.3 Stock Rom but for the many items listed above I am back to Sense. 4.12 for that matter!

CC
[One (M7) General] jwtrockz1998:
I think that I might have a good insight on the GE Roms, I did the conversion 3 weeks ago and used Android 4.2.2 on it while I was on holiday then I got the Android 4.3 OTA last week and got that. Here is what I have found anyways.

- Battery life was really good on 4.2.2 but the update to 4.3 has made the battery life really bad as I can bearly get through a school day without having to charge in probably the last hour.

- Camera is good but the Sense camera I will agree is better.

- I like having the Google Apps without the Sense ones but I have noticed that online games like The Simpsons Tapped Out do not work on Android 4.3 so I think that this is a software problem.

- Audio is still really good and I have not noticed a difference between Sense and GE

- My games still run perfectly with no lag

- System has no lag at all and the recent apps menu is far better on stock than the Sense roms.

That is what I have observed anyways. Hope this helps
[One (M7) General] 0mrdr5:
I think sense better.

-Sense rom has sweet features like BlinkFeed. But ge rom only has tons of crappy Google apps like Google+(i never use it)

-sense audio quality better during calls. But I don't see any difference when playing music with beats (both roms have beats)

-sense camera is better and has sweet ui. Ge Rom sucks.

-games running with similar performance if comes out open to es 3.0 supported games ge roms will have better performance.

-battery performance same for me. Both roms has good performance if i don't play games lol :p

And last my opinion is sense roms but ge 4.3 roms can use for daily using.

Sent from my HTC One
[One (M7) General] superleeds27:
New to HTC.

Will give Sense 5 a run out!
[One (M7) General] cvsolidx17:
Lol Google + is a crappy app? I never got that memo...looks beautiful and works efficiently. Stock Android UI >>>>>> Sense UI IMO. Blinkfeed is easily replaceable. Sense had better battery life than aosp 4.2, but this advantage shifted in aosp's favor with the 4.3 release, at least in my case. Both are great roms, but camera quality aside, I think aosp edges it out
[One (M7) General] Kickoff:
I tried both but in love with Sense. The contacts app incl export function incl pictures + the mail app for corporate users is much better than stock android. Like Zoe and BF as well, although the latter needs to be developed. HTC backup is also preferable for me.
[One (M7) General] NOFSBIGE:
Does the GE edition support LTE with AT&T?
[One (M7) General] capathy21:
I am one of the few that prefer the stock android dialer. I have tried to go back to Sense 5 but there is too much going on. Once you get used to stock android you find how genius it is in it's simplicity and the ability to make it your own. I still think Sense 5 is great for many users. My wife recently got the ONE and I let her play with my GE to see which way she preferred and she said mine looked ugly compared to Sense 5 lol. Users like her will benefit from Blinkfeed,Zoe, and all the other goodies baked into Sense but for me, I will never use any of them.
[One (M7) General] Goronok:
Yep! Works great.

For me :

Sense camera is best, although I find the 4.3 GE camera much better than the 4.2.2, especially interms of focus time

Battery life between Sense and both 4.2.2 and 4.3 GE roms has been roughly the same

GE ROMs adjust to DPI changes much better than sense does, which is a big thing for me as I run at 400dpi

Other than that, the phone runs very similarly between all versions. Games run fluidly on all versions, apps load and screens change without hiccup.. etc etc.

All in all, I prefer GE, but the differences are honestly pretty slim in my book. (especially given I dont use/like blinkfeed)
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
I think 4.3 GE is much better battery than 4.2.2 personally.

-Sent from Marino's Maxx-
[One (M7) General] kayone73:
Yes it works fine on AT&T
[One (M7) General] superleeds27:
Sense would be nice if it was all dark.

I've tried to use it for the last few hours, but, flashed CM 10.2 :)
[One (M7) General] cc999:
hmm

I guess you missed my post:

I really tried to like the GE 4.3 rom but there is no comparison to the Sense rom.

I am back to Stock 4.1.2 on my Developers Edition. This was my 2nd go around with the pure

GE rom thinking that maybe 4.3 would be an improvement. The following are no BS observations of GE 4.3

vs. Stock Sense:

1 - Battery life - NO comparison Sense is much better. On 6 am check battery at 9 PM.

Same usage GE 4.3 had approx. 40% left Sense has 70%.

2 - Wifi NEVER shuts down on 4.3 unless you shut it off yourself. The Advanced option

setting to never for the wifi works perfectly on Sense, on 4.3 GE no effect, wifi just remains on.

This is a battery drain.

3 - Pictures are better on Sense period. I have done numerous tests and there again it is much

better on the Sense rom especially in low light.

4 - Recording is again much better on the Sense Rom. I think the GE rom has a problem with recording the audio

utilizing the wrong mic to record.

5 - The radio on the GE 4.3 rom is very spotty. Jumps from 1 - 4 to 0 bars in the same spot.

When fully connected on LTE its fast but it fluctuates like crazy. The Stock Sense radio is rock solid.

Switching from LTE to HSPA is seamless with no drop outs.

6 - Both roms are lag free

7 - No FM radio on the GE 4.3 rom

8 - Have to pay for an app to utilize the IR blaster. That app does not compare to the stock app on the Sense Rom.

9 - The Stock browser on the Sense rom is much better than Chrome. No comparison

10 - The stock music player (Not the Google Music Player) is fantastic. Sound on the Sense Rom is MUCH BETTER

than the GE 4.3 rom. The 4.3 sound is better than the GE 4.22 but still no comparison with beats on for the comparison.

I really wanted to like the GE 4.3 Stock Rom but for the many items listed above I am back to Sense. 4.12 for that matter!

CC
[One (M7) General] cvsolidx17:
1) With my setup on Sense, I could never squeeze this much life out of my One

2)My WIFI has given me absolutely no issues in either ROM

3)I agree with you on picture quality

4)I couldn't really notice a difference in recording quality, but then again I'm not an audiophile

5)4.3 radio was in fact worse than the radio before it imo (less signal/more drain)

6&7) FM radio doesn't really matter to me

8) I agree with you on this

9) lol HTCs browser being better than Chrome is questionable , but to be honest there are 3rd party browsers that look/perform better than both

10) Beats sound is incorporated into GE 4.3 buy does sound a little better however only over the speakers. Playback through headphones is the same imo and also Google Play Music is wayyyyy better than HTCs music app
[One (M7) General] Kickoff:
Why not to try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2303318?

I like sense dark as well.
[One (M7) General] kingofthebraves:
so does sense give better battery life or not?
[One (M7) General] crixley:
In my experience yes..

They optimized it like crazy.
[One (M7) General] kingofthebraves:
I just got my one coming from an s4 and I'm getting 30 to 40 mins less screen time. Havent Tried GE yet but am very satisfied with the sense UI. Touchwiz is stuttery and I have yet to experience anything like that in HTC.
[One (M7) General] JaRa76:
Sense

I have tried both and will stay with Sense for the time being. Excellent all around launcher.
[One (M7) General] FC1032:
1. More or less the same as me, but considering GE didn't require that "power saver option" from Sense, I think GE could potentially be slightly better? My phone on GE does seem to run cooler though.

2. Can't comment on that. Haven't tried

3. Agree, more options too.

4. Don't record much, can't comment

5. Yep, for me, sense works better with radios. I've been caught out with no reception in many places with GE. Funnily enough, it actually shows it DOES have reception, it just doesn't do anything.

6. I wouldn't expect anything less with a phone like this :D

7. Valid point, which raises the question, is there an app we can get on GE?

8. True, the TV remote app also integrates into the TV guide too. And fav shows show on blinkfeed.

9. Can't comment, always opt for chrome first

10. I've noticed the speakers are much louder on sense... GE, not so much. Stepping down to AOSP roms, they are horrible! Can't hear much even at highest volume.

I've just gone from Sense to GE again, Sense is well balanced, works well and has good features. I just have a major soft spot for Stock android (Nexus user), slightly annoys me when things like settings are arranged and categorised in different places. Might actually get one of those hybrid ROMs ago later.
[One (M7) General] The Project:
Your post sounded stupid...the HTC One has better hardware and runs 4.3 much smoother.
[One (M7) General] daddioj:
how is that stupid? GOOGLE optimizing its platform for ITS device one and only device. HTC google edition. HTC will have there hands in it. and its just not the same. i had the nexus 4. it was a speed demon. HARDWARE is not everything. stock sense works nicer on my HTC one then ASOP ever does. its just not as optimized like there sense rom is. so sorry you sound stupid. as you call it
[One (M7) General] The Project:
Google sells both devices, both manufactured by another company.
[One (M7) General] daddioj:
it doesn't matter googles phone is googles phone. they optimize there phones yes its built by LG but software is heavily optimized for that one device with each OTA it gets better. thats why google left the google edition versions of phones up the the manu. they dont want to deal with 600 different phones. and in my opinion google edition phones will not be as good as nexus devices. but like i said its just MY opinion.
[One (M7) General] The Project:
The GPe uses a different kernel and completely different software. Its also optimized for google. Your argument is invalid. I have used both the HTC One and Nexus 4 and the HTC One outperforms the Nexus 4.
[One (M7) General] daddioj:
we will agree to disagree :good: conversation over :highfive:
[One (M7) General] The Project:
ok
[One (M7) General] uronfire:
Have used both for a few months and totally disagree with you. Nexus 4 is way smoother and faster then HTC one ge
[One (M7) General] calanizzle:
Much better with Sense, I've had "Google Edition" in the past + Nexus 7 and it gets boring with time...
[One (M7) General] simpiemair:
I feel like GE overall is smoother and nicer to look at. However, it seems like all AOSP roms have a problem with it's front camera. It has a green/red-ish tint that ruins my skype calls. (and snap chats :laugh:)

Sense is no slouch though. If you find the right rom it is still crazy fast.
[One (M7) General] mctreklife:
I know this discussion is old, but ever since 4.4 came out I haven't looked back to sense at all
[One (M7) General] Stephen:
Thread closed

Comparison threads are not allowed.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] capo_chino:
I just installed PocketTweak and was playing around with the Font settings and accidently must have changed the Font size for the Pop-up Menu, now the popups are all just a tiny blure of lines so small I can hardly see the lines!!!!!!!!

Tried going back to change settings but cant! the page now does not display anything except for the icon "F" (most of the system pages are now off balance! I think the reduced font size has moved the contents of the pages off to the side and out of view!

I thought to do a hard reset but on the "readme" file for PocketTweak it notes before uninstalling change the settings to your desire THEN uninstall, uninstalling does not change settings back to original!

so I'm thinking that it might also be useless to do a hard reset??

presently doomed

please help

very saaad..I just bought this thing:(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] amer78:
hello sir

please help me in my Acro S (officcial JB) every time i reboot it it restore factory defaults..clear everything...and forgot all wireless passwords

thank in advance
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Envious_Data:
try flashing a stock ftf

it may fix any issues that are firmware related