yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
U got it ..

I'm DL now will let u know shortly

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Ok, Thanks. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Mission Control!! We Have Blast Off! :)

It's booting finally
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Its a go....:)

We have a working ROM

Only thing I used different gapps..

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xzero425x:
So is this good for download yet? or prob should wait a little longer? haha
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Its fine

To take it for a test drive
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
+1

No problems so far

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Great. Thanks guys.

When I use Linux then I finish that version.. :)

So everything works? :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Yeppers.... So far so good

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Well that's awesome! :)

Gonna boot into Ubuntu in five minutes... Then I'll build this ROM one more time to include every thing which is missing like e.g. more ringtones, alarm files, notification files, tweaks, SunBeam, HALO))) and so on... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Thanks bro..

Looking forward to it...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
V1.1. should be available in half an hour.. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
OK that should be 3:56pm PST.

If your late I'm going to give you such a pinch...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
:D

Uploading takes a bit time, because I'm not at home and here the WI-Fi speed is pretty slow so maybe I should start hacking or then using 3G. :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
O OK...

:D. Lol

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Version 1.1:

http://mbqonxda.net/manumanfred/Dreams/Toro/

Boot fixed and more...

Changelog is in the second post!

Thanks @MBQ_ for helping me to get this fixed and thanks to TheMuppets for some of the vendor files.. Also thanks to the users who tried this ROM and reported how it is working... :good:

And thanks other who have or may have helped me.. :silly:

Tell me if something is not working...

Keyboard may freeze when you swipe..

You can use LatinIME fix if I have forgot to change the LatinIME files:

http://mbqonxda.net/manumanfred/Dreams/Toro/LatinIME-FIX.zip ---Do not download that yet, still uploading. 7 Min left.

HD videos can't be played through Flash Player. Caused by Lianro'stoolchain!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Thanks...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] keananaho:
Link isn't working for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Did you use desktop? You know in browser

That is how I did it

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xain713:
Is the Latin fix flashable?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Just an update, I so far found that the Nav or Maps aps are not working

I get "No Network Connection" error
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
I had to flash his gapps to get them to work ...

Might try flashing his gapps again

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Yes...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Thanks, I did use the dream gapps.

I did a fix permissions and reboot and the Maps and Nav aps are golden :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Kool

Glad it's working....

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Use desktop as the user agent, because you get HTTP Status 404 - / when you use Android as your browser's user agent.

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I need to sleep yet... So I update the Gapps later tonight, because I may use another gapps..

If maps isn't working correctly then you maybe have to update Maps from play store. Great if permissions fixing fixed that. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xain713:
I get a error when flashing the fix twrp recovery
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
I get the same in cwm

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
What kind of error?

I'll check that zip file again later, maybe there's some typos..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Guys please tell me if this ROM is in any way a bit laggy on your Nexus. At least my latest version for maguro is laggy a bit, which is probably caused by the CPU related flags. v1.1 for Toro doesn't have those CPU related flags anymore, because I want to keep great to keep that great smoothness by using Grouper's flags like: mcpu and mfpu

Version 1.2 will have some new things on the kernel!

Latest CM changes!

error: packages/apps/Camera/: CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Camera checkout 176b77e89eef9ef4034dc9dbe344f149886d856d
error: packages/apps/Mms/: CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_Mms checkout 52bbf138e570cbb0b473daf6fe9c35006a0b9f4f

<---- gotta fix those before!

Also I'll add the latest HALO changes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cujo6801:
Yes on the lag..

Just a bit...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Ok, Thanks!

hmmm.. I see it myself when I build update for maguro :)

Update it coming!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Dreams version 1.2:

http://mbqonxda.net/manumanfred/Dreams/Toro/

More optimizations and tweaks in Kernel. I don't have changelog about those Kernel optimizations.. :eek:

HALO: (Thanks to ParanoidAndroid...)

- Keep apps in recents

- HALO new transitions for number batch

- HALO first_start tutorial & gesture dead-zone

- HALO NEW ICON SET (XHDPI ONLY!)

- HALO dismiss/flip fix, clearall/last-notif-empty fix

- HALO first-run turorial less choppy + overlay

- Gesture Fix v2

- And much more

!! I edited some HALO strings to make HALO better on this ROM !! :)

!! Keyboard freezing fixed, This is using official CM's LatinIME files !!

camera: fix image capture review mode when zsl is enabled (android_packages_apps_Camera)

fs_mgr: Drop the context mount option from non-selinux builds (android_system_core)

Frameworks : move custom strings to cm_strings.xml (android_frameworks_base)

Apollo: open album by id rather by name and artist. (android_packages_apps_Apollo)

Camera: HDR: fix rotation issues. (android_packages_apps_Camera)

Camera: HDR: fix low exposure on samsung hardware. (android_packages_apps_Camera)

Camera: HDR: convert YUV422P / YV16 format to JPEG (android_packages_apps_Camera)

Camera: Force software HDR if the camera has hardware HDR and HW HDR is broken due to broken implementation issues. (android_packages_apps_Camera)

Signal strength: add more checks to signal strength, (android_frameworks_base)

Mms: use existing setting instead of using MmsConfig. (android_packages_apps_Mms)

Telephony: Consider EVDO ecio zero value as valid. (android_frameworks_base)

The new git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_packages_apps_VoicePlus is not included in this version, will be in the next version. Now I'll build this ROM for Maguro! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
I dirty flashed the update and it stuck in a boot loop

I also did a clean install with the same result

will someone else chime in to confirm if not? I'll re-download it again to verify it's not a bad download
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
This is the same as v1.1 bit only latest cm changes and so on..

Try to use another kernel, maybe boot loop is caused by the kernel. Also wipe cache and dalvik cache
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Version 1.2 won't boot because of that kernel. I built newer version for maguro and same thing!

Gotta fix it later. ROM should have to work with custom kernel.

Please someone try this with another kernel. I can't try myself and i don't even have custom kernels on my Nexus and fastboot doesn't work on my notebook when using Ubuntu
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
After flashing Dreams v1.2 flash custom kernel and then (Gapps if needed) boot.. and should work.

I have to fix that kernel issue.

Some of the files which I added was causing this.Now I only have to edit everything again! So custom kernel works. I fix kernel and then build this ROM for Maguro and then later I fix this for Toro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
ROM is confirmed to work with custom kernel! thanks to razrlover for confirming it... :)

fixed version will be uploaded later when I have finished kernel modifying.

This ROM is fast and smooth on my maguro! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Good to hear about the root cause, And I'll drop by for the updated version.

v1.2 is running Okay, I have not run into any issues yet, But again it's been idle most of the day since the update.

Thanks for all the work Carlos, We appreciate it. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
:)

It won't run into any issues, because this ROM is stable and fast, because I only care about the battery life and performance! ;)

And no problem, with more free memory on my PC I could update these ROMs quicker and to support more devices but I can't so this ROM is only for Toro, Maguro and Mako for now. :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Edit: Deleted!

Any requests are welcome, but I don't really add much new features to this ROM, because I work only myself on this ROM! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Dreams version 1.3:

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BxlYDVLp_RkMRUpNdnpfYmtCU1E/edit?usp=sharing

device/samsung/tuna:
- deleted 32 byte L2 cache lines (Not needed)
Kernel:
- Fix kernel (boot loop...)
- Re-add Touch wake and fast charge
- Re-add the optimizations and tweaks into kernel but leave away tweaks which caused boot loop
I have not made any changelog of the kernel changes so sorry about that, just some little tweaks added to make this smoother and faster and still a lot to do.

HALO: (Thanks to ParanoidAndroid..)

- HALO bugfixes
- HALO vibration fix
- Derp
- HALO batch envelope icon for non-numbered items
- HALO black toasts, italics, blue text
- HALO bigger update
- ...

CM changes:

- Allow pluralization of selection string. (android_packages_apps_CMFileManager)
- Fix IllegalStateException. (android_packages_apps_Mms)
- Add some (optional) debug logging to the player service. (android_packages_apps_Apollo)
- Cleanup: Use only one method to shut down the service instead of two. (android_packages_apps_Apollo)
- CMFileManager: Make use of plurals correctly (android_packages_apps_CMFileManager)
- CMFM: make copy/paste action more understandable (android_packages_apps_CMFileManager)
- Camera: HDR: don't reset focus manager when HDR is active. (android_packages_apps_Camera)
- SamsungQualcommRIL: fix showing gsm operator numbers. (android_frameworks_opt_telephony)
- Add VoicePlus (android)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MONKY_1:
So dreams and a winky face? My mind thinks his telling us this ROM is a wet dream...

The ROM is great by the way! :D

•_•
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Hahaha :laugh: winky smile just make that title better... ;)

:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluerez79:
This ROM seems to get updated frequently, that is great.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Carlos, I just installed the update and it's running real smooth so far.

Good Job :)

Off topic, But how can I get a hold of the sand background or wallpaper you're using in the video demo?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
It's downloaded from MIUI themes app inside MIUI's launcher.

I'll give the download link really soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Right click, Save or set as desktop wallpaper or whatever what.. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DroidOnRoids:
Running like a dream Carlos haha Very nice work.

Question, are the required files to run this rom just the rom.zip and gapps package or is there another zip file needed with your rom? I thought I saw a download for another zip package. Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Triple's:
Thanks for the pics :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Great and thanks! :)

Required:

The ROM flashable .zip

Recommended:

/data/app/ .zip file (flash through CWM) includes apps like Office HD from Manta official factory image, Full share from ZTE Blade III (which are extracted and deodexed by me), CM9 Music Player by Andrew Neal, Flash Player (Update available in Adobe's FP archive website), and so on.

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Gapps download link is added because many of the users asks questions about Gapps. Gapps for dreams does not have Stock JB camera and nor stock keyboard..

You're welcome!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maxearing:
My WiFi is not working. I remember after I flashed the ROM it said something about how to fix it. Does anyone k ow what it is?

Edit: Never mind I fixed it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Could you please tell how you fixed it?

WiFi should work correctly, if not.. then maybe fixing permissions works.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluerez79:
I like the halo gestures and animations. Running very nice on toro. Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Do you Toro users want my built unofficial CM 10.2 JSS15J with BLE (Bluetooth Low Energy) enabled and Estonian language support as the extra features which are added ofc. by me... ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluerez79:
You know it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] modernbummer:
Yes, Sir! Built with Linaro?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
1. With linaro's toolchain there is some problems with HD videos on Galaxy Nexus

2. Google's new toolchain 4.7 (not so new) is a lot better than old one which was used in JB 4.2.2 (4.6).

So there is no reason yet to change toolchain... :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] modernbummer:
Thank you for the explanation. I would gladly test a Toro build.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
:)

I'm not 100% sure, will I build this for toro.. My notebook doesn't have a lot free memory (1 GB) enough for updating my ROM for maguro. :)

IF I build then it should be available in 2 days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluerez79:
Saw you are going to update toro. Thanks. Will this get updated like your cm ROM? As frequently?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Yes, I'll build this later for toro. :)

This will be updated but not s so often as maguro.

Updating toro like every second day or even more often.

First I have to make Dreams ROM more stable with the latest updates so it takes some time.. :) HALO must be updates which takes some hours... Optimizations including will take some time too.

:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bluerez79:
That's great. Thanks. Will be waiting. ☺
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CosMiiK:
Im having a problem receiving MMS messages. This problem happened on 10.1 w/ Trinity and on 10.1.2 w/ Franco. The problem is that when I'm on WiFi, I will get the notification that I received a picture but nothing will happen. The phone doesn't automatically turn on data to download the actual message. Now when I'm using mobile data when I'm not at home, I download the pictures fine. I'm guessing this is because data is already running? I have tried using 3rd party MMS apps and the stock one to no avail. The setting to automatically download pics IS on. I haven't had the GNex for long, I had to get it on ebay since my Rezound finally crapped out on me after a year and a half. Everything about the phone seems to work perfectly except the MMS receiving. It can't be the kernel since I've tried 2 very popular ones. I'm assuming its the ROM. Can anybody please help me with this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
This won't be updated yet. Currently my notebook is building beta 2 of version 4.2 for maguro. :)

I wasn't able to include halo to this, more information of these on my maguro ROM thread..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Tomorrow I'll build a new version of this ROM for Toro!

Dreams version 1.5:

CM10.2 based

BLE force enabled and LE works well

Battery LED

Estonian language support added and my translations

HALO

transparency and clock mods

Fast, smooth and stable (not 100% stable)

Image and video quality increased

some tweaks

And this new version won't be built with Linaro's toolchain.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Building a new version for Toro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BOY_:
:eek: :). Been waiting for a new build! I was on liquid, now on PA and miss all the extras. I've been avoid jumping to straight cm because I love halo.

Are you going to be maintaining this as much as maguro?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
Too awesome! I will have my Nexus at the ready.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Alton (Halo 2):
Nice dude, can't wait !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kittiesoncrack:
Is Voice+ in this Rom? If not, it would be greatly appreciated if you could add it. Its the only thing keeping me away from using nothing but Cm10.2 nightly
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gorillabiscuit:
Does this BLE work with a FitBit? I'd like to upgrade, but I don't want to move if it's another thing that doesn't work with it...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] iluvamk:
What is BLE?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
I believe it is Bluetooth low energy which was one of the under-the-hood features in Android 4.3. Here's the Wikipedia link if you want to know more.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] xzero425x:
Im a derp, is this 4.3 or still 4.2.2? :x
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
The 4.3 version is being built as we speak! However, the one available for download is Android 4.2.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Dreams version 1.5:

http://mbqonxda.net/manumanfred/Dreams/Toro/

- CM10.2 based, Built with Google's toolchan. I am not going to use Linaro toolchain yet.

- App ops (first draft) - Thanks to drcmda

- Battery LED (also it's enabled by default) - Thanks to kufikugel

- BLE support added. (Thanks to me) ;)

- Center clock, circle battery colors (Battery bar charging animation is broken by that MOD..) - Thanks to cristianomatos and kufikugel

- Custom carrier label - Thanks to benjamingoodwin

- Dual Settings Panel - Thanks to Benjamin Poiesz

- Dreams version to about phone (No Easter egg yet..) [using build.prop line ro.dreams.version=x]

- Estonian language support, updated my trabslations for CM10.2 (Thanks to me)

- HALO ported - Thanks to ParanoidAndroid and cristianomatos

- Latest HALO changes (JB 4.2.2 - JB 4.3) - Thanks to Paranoidandroid

- User Defined PIE colors - Thanks to Jens Doll

- No transparency mod yet (reverted because it hid the menu button)

- I reverted Auto hide and quick peek status bar... but I add those back when I have more free time.

- I try to fix that battery bar charging animation

Next:

- Update HALO icon on the expanded status bar and its alignment

- Add back my Estonian translation for SuperUser

- Edit some Privacy guard lines

- increase image and video quality

Kernel:

- For now only touch wake, I still have to add back fast charge, some optimizations and tweaks
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] gorillabiscuit:
Does anyone have a BLE device like a Fitbit that can confirm? I tried FTL a few nights back that had BLE and it didn't work. I'm on Euroskank 10.2 so it's not a huge leap, btu I'm curious...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
At least Ftbit one doesn't work with Google's BLE API..

BLE is tested on Galaxy Nexus and BLE works.

Btw. CM have merged BLE to tuna repositories, but I don't like the way how they have enabled it, so I have edited the files myself to force enable BLE which is better.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] akademix:
Anybody else not have data after flashing?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Saythis:
Yup, no data or even a signal.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
Downloading and will get back to you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Maybe some vendor files are missing. I really hate Google... -.-

I'll byild this again with all the vendor files.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
So far there is just one bug where the Halo icon moves and leaves a large blank space when the quick toggle button is pressed and then pressed again. Here's a screenshot of what I mean. No other bugs for me yet, but if I find another I will be sure to tell you.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Saythis:
It's no problem :) I appreciate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
I know that!

I have not fixed it yet, even when it's easy to fix it. I just don't have time to fix the minor things.

I'll build this ROM again in 30 minutes.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
New version is built! Now all the vendor files are included so data must work.

I'll upload this new version really soon...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] christianpeso:
Thanks for your swiftness on trying to get things right my friend! Greatly appreciated. I too suffered the "No Data". Thought it was a kernel thing as I flashed Lean Kernel in same session as flashing this ROM.When I did a clean flash of just this ROM and Gapps, no data still. Thanks for the upcoming update.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Dreams version 1.6 is uploaded, link is in the OP!

Now I am going to build this for Maguro to be able add more features to this ROM and fix some things. Even my maguro build didn't have all the vendor files (DRM) but everything have been working well.. :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Ok guys.... tell me if something isn't working. (Battery bar charging animation is not working, all other things should work.)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
Oh! Sorry, I didn't know that! :p

I'll be flashing the new build now!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 47th_Ronin:
I was thinking the no data issue was something in the cm code, due to the fact that at least 2 other ROMs that have cm cherrie picks/stuff are having the same problem.

Thanks Carlos!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
Is it just me, or does the AOSP keyboard keep crashing?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
I never cherry pick stuff.

Some vendor files was missing and that causes the data issue.

Np.

Not sure.. I use Google's keyboard..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] BOY_:
So how's this running for everyone? Hoping to try out a new dd but I need stability.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
All vendor files are included so this works well. Everything works, fast and pretty stable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sruel3216:
Anyway to disable the halo in the notification drawer?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
NO!!!

And never will be.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ricola1989:
Anyone got a mirror for gapps? The download keeps failing :/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Flash PA JB 4.3 gapps. I haven't made any flashable gapps for CM10.2.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EniGmA1987:
Overall I do like the ROM, however I find that Halo seems to make the system laggy and I am not a fan of the buggy transparent nav and status bars. Stability has been very good though and the ROM seems to work well if you can get past the issues I mentioned. This seems like the best CM 10.2 ROM for Toro so far though :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Saythis:
Have you tried Golden or ASKP Kernel with this? So far both are making this ROM fluid and buttery smooth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EniGmA1987:
Ya I tried stock kernel and am on Golden now. I still get a lot of issues with laggy transitions, animations and just general app switching. If I reboot the phone and then set Halo to be hidden and sleeping then everything is great. But once Halo starts to work a bit and does a notification then things tend to get problematic. At times if the phone has been sleeping for a while and I start using it then things are really jerky too. Once I clear all notifications on Halo, set it to sleep, kill all apps, and let it sit for a few minutes then it gets smooth again. But thats a lot of work and I am disappointed that things are smooth all the time. It isnt a CPU speed issue either. The jerkiness that happens stays almost the same if I am running any governor or even setting it on performance and locking speed to 1.3GHz, so it isnt a CPU speed issue not ramping up. Just a general system problem. I am sure it will get sorted out soon enough as 4.3 is still very new and no ROM is perfect yet. This is still the best CM10.2 ROM I have used.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Multisupermono:
Yeah, Halo does make it laggy. It needs some more optimization. If it ran smoothly i'd use it every day! Right now though, i use it when needed. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
No new updates yet...

I have to fix some bugs and maybe even to revert some things to fix some of the bugs...