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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
I dont think anyone is even trying. The aosp mod 2.60 in themes section is good but I recommend installing camera 360 from play for effects and cool hdr

The hdr is only an effect though
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
Not going to happen.....ever.....Samsung sources needed
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Treeki:
I took that as a challenge and have been working on it nonstop since yesterday ;)

I have the camera working on my modded ROM now, I'm hoping to release the ROM and the source patches (for applying to other ROMs) once I get more of the features working (I would like to at least fix Low Light and the Camcorder) and knock out a couple issues like the app launching the non-existent TW gallery to view photos.

Here's a video as proof. Apologies for the quality, but I couldn't find a decent screen recording app: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYX4PSVDiIU

Now that I'm here again, I may as well ask- where would the best place be to post this? It's related to both a modded app and a modded ROM so I don't know whether it would fit better in Development or Themes/Apps.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Themes and apps, definitely
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] galaxys3lover:
Release this as soon as possible :p :p been waiting for this for so long !
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Glebun:
calling bs
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Hi,

first of all, if I can convince you to try out StartApp, Mod Edit: Link Removed

» StartApp FAQ

Well then, let's start. As I already announced here, I am currently trying out a new ad network for one of my apps. The network is called "StartApp". And although it is a little bit more intrusive than AdMob and not every user is going to like it, I am, however, already yet pretty satisfied with its results. In just two days I earned now more than $13 - which might not sound like a lot for some of you, but for me it actually it is quite much. Because in comparison to AdMob it's around 20 times more!

But simply look yourself:

» With AdMob banner ads I earned around $10 in the last 30 days.

» And now my StartApp earnings from just the last two days: $13.34.

(Well, of course, that were just two days, we will see, if this will hold on in the future.)

So how does StartApp actually work? Basically, there are two ways to earn money with StartApp.

1st Way: SDK Integration

Regarding of which option you choose (full integration / partial integration), with this way you will earn money for each installation of your app. I will simply quote the FAQ:

2nd Way: Popup (Exit) Ads

I will simply quote the blog:

Please note that you can also add those popup ads to other points of your app, e.g. "natural breaking points" (like a user saves a file or loads a game level and while the file is being saved or the game level is loaded, he cannot do anything anyway - so why not showing him a popup add now?).

(3rd Way: Referral Program)

You'll get $10, for the first 100 downloads a developer who was referred by you makes. The referred developer himself gets a bonus of $25 if he crosses this 100 downloads (that bonus is only for those being referred!). And afterwards, it even goes on: For every other of the following download-levels being crossed by the referred developer, you’ll get an extra payment:

- At 1,000 downloads + $25

- At 10,000 downloads +150

- At 100,000 downloads +$500

- At 1,000,000 downloads +$1,500

So summing it all up, you can make up to $2,185 for each referred developer. Therefore here again my appeal to you: Mod Edit: Link Removed Give it a try. It's a win-win-situation.

» StartApp FAQ

» Register now

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[Mobile Ad Networks] out of ideas:
It sounds good, but the way they seem to work it is super intrusive.

http://www.startapp.com/faq/

i'd rather see ads, than have an app change my browser start page and add search icons.

Plus the permissions are kind of rough. System tools and read messages are hard for most people to accept.
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Well, yes and no. You can decide to offer the user a clean app without any ads, but instead you include this shortcuts and bookmarks installation procedure. The user can easily decline this dialog (I think he has to do it 3 or 4 times until it stops appearing anymore):

In my opinion, this dialog is quite transparent and clear to the user. If he (accidently or deliberately) chose to accept this dialog, he can afterwards easily delete the bookmarks and shortcuts (drag to the trash or delete the link for the browser). After all, your users are going to have a completely ad-free app. In my opinion it is not that intrusive, since StartApp does not "settle into the system" or something.

You can also choose to only use those exit-popup-ads. I cannot say how much you can earn with them yet and if it is really more than with AdMob. But you can give it a try, especially they could be useful while loading a game level or saving a file or something (as explained above). The user might be more willing to look at those ads if he cannot do anything else at the moment anyway. That might be a cleaner solution than those AdMob ads, on which the user clicks accidently while playing a game, because the controls are next to the banner or something.

Concerning the permissions, here you can find an explanation. What do you mean by "read messages"? There is no permission needed to read SMS or something.

Personally, I decided to give StartApp a try, because AdMob's eCPM was somehow unexpectedly low (much lower than for other apps from me). Also, many, many stupid people installed my app (which is for ROOTED PHONES ONLY) and rated it negatively because "it does not work ('****', 'crap', '**** you', ...)". I certainly do not have pity on those who cannot even read...

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[Mobile Ad Networks] out of ideas:
for the message thing I was going by their "can I see this live" link from the FAQs which goes to

start app quick search https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.startapp.quicksearchbox on the play store.

Is the one they install different from that one? also, system tools does show up in the play store descriptions, so they need to update where they say it doesnt.

Other than that it sounds interesting. The money you are currently getting from them includes the search combo, or is it just the interstitial(Exit) ads?

I like interstitials for some situations. and it seems so far for you they are paying out better than admob.
[Mobile Ad Networks] Supernero:
Out of ideas- Startapp truly has a very non obtrusive solution to monetize your apps and users accept this concept as it is much more friendlier than push notifications or even banners which appear from nowhere anf interrupt the usage of the app. Regarding the quick search you saw from their website it is identical to the one that will appear via the installation of your app. Bear in mind. that as Null0R has mentioned above, Startapp is 100% compliant with Google's policy, meaning the user can choose whether to accept or decline this addition, and it wont affect the installation of your app.

If you need and examples of apps using Startapp's SDK let me know.
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Hey,

sorry for the late answer, I was waiting for an answer from StartApp myself.

The very main part of the money I currently earn (still always around $8 - $10 per day) from StartApp definitely results from the SDK integration itself (bookmarks, search icon, ...). Currently, I earn only around $0.1 - $0.2 per day from interstitial ads. Thats not really impressive, but it still can concete with AdMob I guess (since my AdMob revenue never was really a lot higher on the same app I think). On the StartApp dashboard it says, my eCPM is $0.16. In AdMob, I always had around $0.07 eCPM. Paradoxically, my AdMob-eCPM raised since I integrated StartApp (I now have those two ad networks in one app). Now it is $0.10.

Like you, I also wanted know how many they actually pay for interstitial ads. The answer, however, was not really that concrete.

Here they also say:

What might be interesting for you as well is that StartApp introduced a new type of interstitial ads last thursday: http://blog.startapp.com/3d-ad-latest-ad-type/

I think, this permission is not part of the requirements of the StartApp SDK. Rather the app itself needs to read messages, since it is a search app and you can search through your contacts, your messages, your apps and so on with it. At least, this would be my guess. You can check out my app's permission requirements: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.felixheller.sharedprefseditor (writing to sd card, however, is not part of the StartApp requirements).

For those who are being interested, I am willing to share my StartApp stats after one week of usage.

(click to enlarge)

So basically, I earned $56 in a week with StartApp. This really is a lot in my opinion. When I started with AdMob, I needed around 9 months until I reached my first $100 (until my first payout). How it seems like I need around two weeks with StartApp. So this is a quite dramatic improvement, I think, everybody noticed that on his own, huh?

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[Mobile Ad Networks] ufomstr:
For me StartApp generates many fake-virus reviews.
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
"Fake-virus reviews"? I don't understand you. How do you mean this?
[Mobile Ad Networks] ufomstr:
That means that antivirus software (not all, few of them) report StartApp as virus (or adware, depends on app). Then wanna-be-good users that don't understand what's going on posts 1-star reviews that there is virus in your app.
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Oh yeah, I get stupid comments as well. Few of them stated, that they actually do like the app, but that they do not like the new permissions and thus they won't update. They like the app. They rate it with one star. Logic.

Today I got the first time a "virus-comment" as well. Well, I try to deal with it. I always try to give friendly answers to stupid comments. I try to explain the permissions and why I chose to use something different than AdMob. You should also add StartApp's disclaimer to your app description (you actually have to):

To be honest, my average rating went a bit down since I included StartApp. But I still get lots of high ratings. Still, many users seem to be satisfied. So am I since I included StartApp. In my opinion, the earnings were definitely worth it until now.
[Mobile Ad Networks] ufomstr:
For me it didn't help. I've added description about antivirus, but there are too many idiots that don't read description or are just dumb. Almost all of may 1stars are for virus... I will have to remove startapp.
[Mobile Ad Networks] 9android.net:
when startapp release money on august 2013?

Hi,

Paydate of June is 1st August 2013, but today is 2/8/2013 and i still get nothing from Startapp. What's wrong? I'm at GMT+7, Hanoi, Vietnam.

the second question is : my friends, android developer were play startapp, said that their paypal account is loocked when withdraw money from startapp. Any one can confirm about it?

Look forward your answers, thanks!
[Mobile Ad Networks] rixchow:
startapp

hey i got an email and said they will paid in 8 aug, so i am waiting for 8 aug to come. i don't have clue about paypal account get locked
[Mobile Ad Networks] mane55:
I use startapp in my app and yesterday XDA wrote article about my app:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/easily-backup-your-apps-data-contacts-and-messages/

After few users reoprted my app as virus or malware, article about my app was updated and now it says that my app contains a malware.

If anyone going to be promoted by XDA portal don't use startapp :)
[Mobile Ad Networks] nerotNS:
Or don't use startapp at all...And I guess it wasn't exactly a "few" users...

http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/xda-and-adware-apps/
[Mobile Ad Networks] out of ideas:
ouch. thats a rough way to lose the "portal bump" and definetly makes it rough to recover from.

I've seen quite a few different apps using startapp being reported as viruses(even if they are not) and nothing kills a good rating faster than that.

Everyone ends up having to makes a bunch of apology follow ups and ends up dumping startapp.

So, not to seem rude or anything, but I don't think this is a good monetization solution for developers.
[Mobile Ad Networks] mane55:
Well, I have removed startapp from my app. At least now we know that XDA don't allow apps with this kind of ad networks :).

It is not a good monetization solution for developers - your app is marked as virus.

I will never use aggressive ads network in the future that mark your app as virus.
[Mobile Ad Networks] dappwl:
Fake virus

In my case Leadbolt was generating fake-virus reviews. I got tons of bad reviews complaining that my app was infected. However, this happened only to one of my apps.
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Hi,

I cannot tell you a lot about that yet. International transfers take some time for sure. Today is the 13th August and I still did not receive any earnings, too - neither from StartApp nor from AdMob. But at the moment, that does not seem to be a thing to be worried about in my opinion. Because my first AdMob payout also took about 19 days (19th February). I will simply wait another week and wach out.

Although my referral links were removed (sorry 'bout that, didn't notice that rule and others posted referral links as well on other topics...), I still wanted to share my most recent experiences with you anyways. So here it is.

My earnings are still quite high. I earn about $12-$13 every day with only one app using StartApp. That's cool. I didn't change anything on my apps since I introduced StartApp.

On the other hand, my ratings of this one app are still going down slowly (including some false virus reports as well). That's stupid. But at the moment that's not a big enough reason to cancel this "StartApp experiment" in my opinion. I'll just wait a bit further, I guess. Maybe I could also write the StartApp support and ask them what to do about those virus reports and negative ratings and if they have some tips or something.
[Mobile Ad Networks] Supernero:
Hey,

I am happy to hear your earnings are still high, there shouldn't be a reason they wont be:)

Here is what Startapp support answered: " Thank you for letting us know about this feedback from your users about messages from their anti-virus software.

We encountered several AV apps that have mis-flagged our SDK as Adware.

After working with with most of these companies, we now have only Dr. Web, AVG and Norton and a few others that are still flagging us as ad ware.

Our latest SDK offers an opt-in EULA for the end user, giving them the choice to add our search app. This user-friendly approach is a step forward to keeping your users aware and creating a long term business that will keep us and you, the developer, earning for the long run. We take the privacy of you and your users very seriously.

Some developers have also posted a message in their description letting users know that it may be flagged as a virus, but that it is not a virus

I hope this answers your question. If you have any more concerns, please let me know."

In addition, Google chose to present its "Disclosure of Ads to Users" using Startapp's EULA as an example of how to be transparent towards the end user.

Of course this doesn't change all anti viruses diagnostics but it does show that Google finds Startapp solution as very user friendly

Hope this helps
[Mobile Ad Networks] mvmsk:
Hi guys,

Never EVER EVER EVER use start app. My new app(three days ago) made into top #3 on google play> tools>Top new free category.

I integrated StartApp into it. Lots of users reported that virus alert was shown. There were 1800+ uninstalls just in one day!!

Now my app is not even in the list (not any place).

So my serious suggestion is beware of StartApp. I hate it.

Ps: I'm not saying the app name because some of you might think I'm spamming.

Just to be clear, I'm 100% genuine :D:):laugh:
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
https://play.google.com/intl/en/about/developer-content-policy.html

Seems to be like the end for StartApp, AirPush, TapContext and so on. Too bad since I just started earning at least little more money with my apps using StartApp. :( I am curious what StartApp is going to do now, if they try to focus on interstitial ads or whatever.
[Mobile Ad Networks] Yinon:
StartApp SDK

Hey everyone,

We are working on a new SDK that will be complaint with the new Google ad policy.

Many of you have addressed us with concerns about your application and what will happen to your current and past earnings. I can assure you that StartApp will continue to provide you with a wonderful monetization experience.

We will continue to act in an innovative way to create a solution for you. If you have any other questions, feel free to contact your account manager or our support email at support@startapp.com

The StartApp Team
[Mobile Ad Networks] RabbileGames:
Problem with permissions in start app

The following are the permissions shown currently in the documentation in their site

<uses-permission android:name ="android.permission.INTERNET" />

<uses-permission android:name ="android.permission.ACCESS_WIFI_STATE" />

<uses-permission android:name ="android.permission.ACCESS_NETWORK_STATE" />

<uses-permission android:name= "android.permission.READ_PHONE_STATE" />

<uses-permission android:name ="android.permission.SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW" />

<uses-permission android:name= "android.permission.GET_TASKS" />

the last two are recently added..Are these two compulsory? because I am pretty sure some app stores will ask reasons for these two..

SYSTEM_ALERT_WINDOW:-"Allows an application to open windows using the type TYPE_SYSTEM_ALERT, shown on top of all other applications. Very few applications should use this permission; these windows are intended for system-level interaction with the user."

I think sooner or later they will suspend apps over this...
[Mobile Ad Networks] kimky:
I make more money from StarApp

You can make much more revenue with StarApplication. Up to 3740$ on referrals. No pop up ads or banners, only user friendly sdks. In the last 2 days I made 20$ for one of my apps, so I think I'm going to stay with StarAppliction. Money talks.
[Mobile Ad Networks] bo4app:
alternative for StartApp

Time for a new kind of monetizing model? Maybe apponsor is of interest for you. apponsor is partially also affected by the new google policy, but there is a possibility how you can use the apponsor SDK in very attractive and profitable way and this is in my opinion compliant to the Google content policy.

You can offer your app users to use your app without any in-app advertising for an unlimited or limited (1 year) period. If they want to use the app this way (free of in-app ads) they have to subscribe for the newsletter of the sponsor. If they disagree they get in-app ads and in this case the process of the request for subscription can be repeated as often as you want. Hereby apponsor is offered as an alternative to in-app advertising, whereby the user does not suffer from any restriction in the usage of the app. A documentation for an example implementation can be found at the apponsor dev portal (getting startet).
[Mobile Ad Networks] ankur.walia:
hello friends..i had my first application uploaded on 14sept..now i have got 100+ downloads..i am not using any kind of ad network now..should i start with start-app?
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
You can give it a try. Starting with AdMob first is not a bad idea as well, I guess. That's how I started. Simple banner advertisement.

StartApp, however, offers you banner ads, insterstitial ads and a pay per download-model (which is unfourtunately now weaker than before, since Google did some policy changes). I don't know a lot about StartApp's banner ads and if they are worth a try, they're new and I do not use them.

But I'll keep an eye on my earnings from StartApp's interstitial ads and can give you a feedback in a few days. I updated my app yesterday. I'm excited to see, if StartApp can keep up some stability (I do not expect as high earnings as before, however).
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
For those being interested in the development of StartApp's new revenues: In the following graph you can see my latest 3 days with the old SDK in comparison with the last 4 days with the new SDK.

It's less then before, of course, I didn't really expect something else. But it's quite acceptable for me, however. If I suppose to get around $7 a day now, that's still around 3 times more than what I earn with AdMob's banner ads at the same time in the same app (AdMob, however, is less intrusive, of course).
[Mobile Ad Networks] out of ideas:
Thanks for the update on your earnings.

is the "downloads" earnings still following the installation of the search widget and home page like the old sdk?

and im assuming the "in-app revenue" is from the interstitials?
[Mobile Ad Networks] null0R:
Hi,

yeah, the "downloads" earnings come from search widget + homepage SDK integration. The "in-app" revenue comes from interstitial apps. That it's tendentially higher than before might come a bit from the new SDK as well (3d ads), bit I guess it mainly results from the fact that I changed some parameters to show those ads more frequently now, e.g. (I think) every 3rd time a file is saved (before it was every 5th time).
[Mobile Ad Networks] UnnyHog:
Very strange app
[Mobile Ad Networks] mrvanhung:
[Everything changes with Startapp New SDK since September 15th, 2013]

Since new sdk has been released (September 15th, 2013) to satisfied Google Ads Policy, thing has been changed in terms of Advertisement type, ECPM, Referral Program Policy. Because Startapp pay per download model, so with new sdk, revenue from download significantly decreased, but you can earn high profit with revenue from impressions.

The ECPM of Startapp is not stable as admob( in some days it may be very high, but may be Zero for some days, my highest ECPM record until now is 23$). So, the total revenues still as high as old Startapp SDK if your apps have good performance.

You must recognize one important thing: Until now, Startapp is little more intrusive than abmob, so your app's user with AVG installed in their phone may warning your app as: "Instrusive Adsware". Other anti-virus may not. It may little badly affected your app's rating, but not significant. In my case i notify my users before installing app about this, then everything is OK. Highly recommend using combination of ads types : Banner + Searchbox to get impressions bonus.

If you are plan to integrate Startapp to your android app, Integrating StartApp now, going with my referal:http://startapp.com/rftjqoh to get $15 when you first reach 1000 downloads, plus $15 when first reach 250,000 impressions.

To invest more about new sdk, visit: http://blog.startapp.com/announcing-suite-sdks/

To invest more about Referral Program , visit: http://developers.startapp.com/Referral/Terms.aspx
[Mobile Ad Networks] VeronicaC:
Startapp to suspend their PPD model

Did you Guys hear Startapp will suspend their Pay-Per-Download model by the end of this month? If you still want to keep monetizing your apps based on fairly similar structure: we offer Splash Screen SDK on AppFlood and you still have a few days for a safe transition.

Splash Screen SDK displays one full-screen interstitial ad at launch - and that's basically all the requirements to get paid. You would earn revenue based on the GEO of your app installs: $8 for 1000 US-based installs and $1.4 for 1000 non-US installs. Additionally, you will get paid in eCPM of the ads displayed. If you choose to implement more ad units later within your app, that's also an extra cash there.

You can contact me here, or send me email at: weronika@papayamobile.com