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[Nexus 4 General] swest6602:
So happy to have meta data with my Ford Sync system. Works great with Play Music. Thought we might see MAP enabled too but no such luck (didn't realty expect it though.).

Unfortunately I can no longer log in to Audible. Has anyone else tried? I don't think it's just me, but you never know (I wiped the app cache and data, I uninstalled & reinstalled. It loads, puts 3 icons in the notification bar, but tells me my log-in is bad (it's not). Oh well, have to continue using the DNA for Audible.
[Nexus 4 General] gideo:
Get a rope.....
[Nexus 4 General] Droid2drummer:
Coffee once more has spewed across my living room. Lmmfao

No offense to noodles
[Nexus 4 General] JNewms:
I disagree, we will get 4.3 next week. Then we will see 5.0 alongside the next nexus 10 and the nexus 5. Then we will NOT get an update at I/O. I believe Sundar is going to make I/O exclusively about developers, we may even start setting once a year updates after November.

Franco Minuum Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
I don't care when they come or what they are called, just as long as Google keeps giving us improvements. On the upside, I flashed the bootloader and radio today and am now running then total package. It seems to be settling very nicely and running very smooth. I thinks the population is going to be very pleased with this update.
[Nexus 4 General] zxyz:
I don't really like the way Google handles updates. I think once per year would be way better because then it gives time for OEM's to catch up. What the point of releasing an update when really, only nexus phones get them at a decent timely matter? I mean seriously isn't the iPhone 4 getting an iOS 7 update..It would also give them more time to fix more bugs in one go. There are thousands here: BUGS. Im willing to bet a large percentage of those are legitimate. Fix them if you want to get on the same level of intuitiveness and ease of use as iOS. For example, I have the "Wireless charger bug." It's basically an issue where after using the wireless orb charger, a wakelock is held called "WirelessChargerDetector and doesn't go away unless you reboot. If I was a casual user and didn't know what BetterBatteryStats was, I'd blame the OS/phone! Instead of "4.1 -> 4.1.2 -> 4.2" and all these tiny little increments I think it would look way more polished to the general audience if it went "2 -> 3 -> 4 -> 5." Honestly aside from the nerdy crew how many people out there who own an android phone are running the best version they can? My aunt is still using froyo.

For the love of Sweet Marie and Mary Jane Google, unless there is a dire need for an update, one update per year. PLEASE.

This would also mean that once per year we have 137372747 rumor and speculation threads. I'm sure everyone is in favour of that.

I don't know just my two cents, but maybe that's the wrong way to go about things?
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Yeah but here is the problem with half of those bug reports. They are from completely different distros of Android. Unless it is a nexus device running a stock rom most of those bug reports have to be discounted from google's side.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] zxyz:
That's another thing I don't really like, let's just say I'm glad the moto X and GE exist, though I do understand the pro's of Touchwiz and HTC sense etc.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Yeah but the GE versions are also a different distro as they contain the OEM frameworks and drivers as well. Betting the X will as well. Close to a nexus build but not exactly what we get.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] thunder-62:
Has anybody got a VPN connection working with the leaked 4.3?

I tried and failed. Wonder whether it is the 4.3 or me ;)
[Nexus 4 General] darkrom:
Anyone have issues where texts take a real long time to send? This is new to me. Wondering if its the radio or 4.3 ROM causing this.
[Nexus 4 General] cyan-000:
Battery drain

Has anyone else encountered a battery drain when using the 4.3 JWR66N build?
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
I have, it was caused by the good old wireless charging wakelock we know and love.

A reboot fixed it, as per usual.

Nope.
[Nexus 4 General] ogrillion:
I had posted on another thread about that os usage for me it was caused by daemonsu which is from supersu
[Nexus 4 General] trillo69:
Are the ringtones new in 4.3? I have used custom roms most of the time in 4.2.2 so I'm not sure if we are getting a new set of ringtones. I like them all btw. :p
[Nexus 4 General] :
Works without problems (IPSEC Xauth PSK) on 4.3...
[Nexus 4 General] hacksome:
Streaming video does not play on MX Player, DicePalyer, BS Player, VPlayer, VLC etc.. Any alternatives found pls?
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Just wait for ras Carlo to put his magic touches on 4.3 once it's out.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Very true! Can't wait!! Cool
[Nexus 4 General] rodrigocorsi:
Android 4.3 fixed hands-free function?

I have a Chevy Cruze, with my Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus the function hands-free phone call don't work perfectly.

Someone tested this function with new Android 4.3 ?

https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41568

Thank you
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
wifi disconnecting in sleep and touch responsiveness?

all i want to know is has it solved the problem of wifi going off while in sleep?? and is the touch responsiveness better???
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
if you have read a few pages back you would've got your answer :)
[Nexus 4 General] Remoteconcern:
The touch sensitivity is better. WiFi seems fixed but some people still reporting problems. I think fixed though
[Nexus 4 General] lowandbehold:
That is not how updates work on any type of device or any OS. When you find bugs, you fix them and you push an update. You don't wait to put out an update to give the OEM's a chance to catch up. The OEM's don't care about catching up. They could very easily catch up if they wanted to. When 4.3 drops, CM, AOKP and PA will be updated within a week. If they can do it, so can Samsung and HTC.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Yeah custom ROMs might be out in a week, but it will be months before they get a 'stable' tag... just like OEMs. Only difference is OEMs don't do public testing.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Yeah but in the end the OEM are not the only ones in control of said update. No point in spending hundreds of man hours to update a device is the carrier is not gonna push the update anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] lowandbehold:
I do understand that, but my point was, in no way should Google stop the continuous improvement of their product do to the failure of OEM's and carriers...
[Nexus 4 General] facetubespam:
Pocketnow claims that 4.3 (leaked build) made their Nexus 4 get 4 times more battery life. Is this really true? Sounds insane!
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Probably not. They didn't show the screen on time. But it is better
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
Don't agree with that at all.

Why should google care for OEMs?

If they would wait let's say for well... HTC until they update all their devices, we would never get any updates at all.

If The OEMs don't see the need for a timely update, then the customer have to honor that, and choose a better manufacturer. Or get a Nexus.

I also got a Nexus to get the latest and greatest, why should I wait for others who are on eclair? They either can update (buy Nexus) or they don't care anyway.

I would even be happy if google would introduce a monthly automatic OTA, even if just for security reasons.

If OEMs would follow, fine.

If not, who cares, it is not googles responsibly.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Monthly updates will never happen. Google wants to space the updates out. Not cause more issues for developers. Google makes most of their money from the OEMs leasing the google software. The nexus is not a big thing for google. They put it out for the pure developer at heart. So they could have a clean base to work with. Not really for the average person. Soon it will be yearly updates. For not just the OEM but also for the developers which are Google's main target.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Monthly updates already do happen, that's what Play Services is for
[Nexus 4 General] PVL_93_RU:
1) yes, iPhone 4 is getting an update to iOS7, so when iOS7 comes out - it'll be 3 years of support

But do you know how many features it won't get? The best iOS has to offer (Siri is one of those things) only goes to iPhone 5 and iPad Mini + iPad 4. Hell, even 4S is not getting 100% of the new stuff that ships with 7

And have you seen the performance of iP4 on iOS7 beta? It lags as hell, even 2010's Galaxy S would do better on Android 4.2.2, even despite the fact that iOS7 is in beta state now. And with newer versions, it'll only get worse, until Apple completely droops the support, or the people upgrade to iP5 or 5S or another OS

2) If by this you are trying to compare Google to Apple, I think you are forgetting all the non major updates for iOS (like, 4.3 - 4.3.1 - 4.3.2 - 4.3.3 - 4.3.4 - 4.3.5 or 6.1 - 6.1.1 - 6.1.2 - 6.1.3).

And it's not gonna do any good. Imagine if we got Android 5.0 with a FATAL and a MAJOR bug that can wipe out your entire data in one shot just because the system has had a hiccup somewhere

Would you want to wait a YEAR until Google makes 6.0 and fixes that bug?

'Nuff said

3) Same as 2)

4) Because the wait of Android update is so sweet when you can't really guess what Google brings in next time
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Samsung did just that. They released an update that if you did a full wipe it would kill your emmc chip all together lol Took them almost a year to admit it and even longer to fix it lol
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
What i feel is that google should hav pushed an update specifically for nexus 4 solving the wifi issue and data drop issue ..this is really needed!!! Too much delay in notifications on both wifi as well as 2g/3g .. it is too annoying!!
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
This is a hard issue to nail down as not everyone has it. I dont and neither do the 4 other people I know with the device. 3 new and one older model.
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
I just bought mine one week ago and i still have this problem! :( ..

thinking whether i should replace it or what!
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
See that is the problem. As it is not on every device it is hard to nerrow down the cause of the issue. I get my notifications without delay, sometimes even faster then I get them on my pc.
[Nexus 4 General] PVL_93_RU:
And yet that guy votes for one update per year program. It's good that only Samsung had a flaw like that, not the whole Google sources (that would mean that all the customs ROMs would also have this bug, since all of them are being built from the AOSP one way or another), it'd become an Android apocalypse
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
I can understand that its hard to nail down but its been 4 months that ppl r facing this problem .. and its a major issue really .. i wouldnt hav bought it if i knew it had this problem
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
How do you fix a random problem? I mean sure sounds easy to say fix this but what if they are like some of us and can't reproduce it. Even the great Devs here have not seemed to be able to fix it yet.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
this is my opinion too, the fix took too long... software update is one thing, fixing some basic functionality of the device is another.

out of 3 devices , my friend and i have that notification delay problem, my other friend doesn't, but he has other problems with the stock android email client not delivering his emails...

Edit: of course, i also have signal and mobile data drops.. it's a little better with the .83 baseband though, but the drops are still here
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
i totally agree with what you say..but all i am saying is i hav bought a new device and i am on stock rom ..obviously i would expect everything to be working perfectly fine.. having problems on a new phone is kinda disappointing

so you are on 4.3 and still facing data drops and wifi drops too??
[Nexus 4 General] algorhythm:
I didn't realize we had so many Google employees in this thread.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Every phone and or ROM whether it's stock or custom has bugs. It's not like Google can just fix it in a day it takes time.
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
agreed .. but dont you think 4 months is too much of time? i am expecting it to get solved in this new release of android or else you never know how much more time it would take.. :( .. moreover data and wifi problem is a MAJOR issue infact even a dealbreaker!
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Not for everyone. And idk are you a Dev? You don't know how hard it is to fix this issue neither do I. 4 month? Maybe it takes more time we simply don't know
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
I am not a developer .. and maybe it takes 1 or even 2 years to solve the problem,but it is a defect isnt it?
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
4 months lol.. Try since day 1 over 9 months ago!!!

It's not a random problem either, it's been fully investigated by thracemerin who has diagnosed a problem with arp requests when in sleep mode.

If you don't get the problem then your phone probably isn't sleeping properly or your using some outdated router or security protocol.
[Nexus 4 General] spookykidmt:
i don't know whether this has been posted here, but there's a vid showing the new stuff

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKrHNkqw-dM#at=13

mainly old stuff i guees :P
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Newer router with latest security, phone sleeps fine and I have never had WiFi issues and delayed notifications, not on 4.2.2 nor on this 4.3 leak. Just because you are having this issue doesn't mean everyone else that aren't are lying. :rolls eyes:
[Nexus 4 General] rayiskon:
no, i am on stock 4.2.2 now , everything prepared in case of a possible OTA in the next couple of days.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Guy's/girls I think everyone is getting overly excited. I don't think we will see 4.3 for another week or 2. Maybe not even that soon.

Also the "the guy sold me a nexus 4 with 4.3 off craigslist & works at Google" :rolleyes:

That doesn't sound fishy to anyone ?
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
It is an official test build. What are you rolling your eyes about?
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Chances are this is not how it happened. But who knows ;)
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
If it happened that way, it is not works at Google. Most likely, worked at Google.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Lol for sure!
[Nexus 4 General] coolbyte9:
You need to google Jeff Williams
[Nexus 4 General] hamad138:
Uhm guys wlan issue still not fixed?

Maybe we should ask a global website like phonearena or gsmarena to make that issue on front page
[Nexus 4 General] pchtc:
wifi issue not affecting everyone

i have never had any wifi issues at all

as previously pointed out

maybe the problem is your router

make sure its a good quality router

also 3rd party firmware really helps (DDWRT, Tomato, etc..)
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Because everything on the internet is true..
[Nexus 4 General] Federico_96:
I agree with you, for me is really strange that a Google employee sells a nexus 4 with the latest android version (even if it's a leak) to a random person after all the time google made (and will make) us wait for that update
[Nexus 4 General] Fatherboard:
Leaks are part of the hype ; Apple & Google know that. You have to be truly naive to "buy" this story.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
It's not the first time it's happened, an early build of ICS was found on an eBay Nexus S
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Android is only a small part of Google. Most employees spend their time at Google dealing with other projects so you can't expect them to know anything about Android's release schedule or what they are running on their phone. Google dogfoods the software to a lot of employees outside the Android team.
[Nexus 4 General] zxyz:
uhhh...

The incremental updates aren't much to write home about in the grand scheme of things and the amount of hype for 4.3 is kind of ridiculous in my opinion
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Its always gonna be like that...for any update... Be it 4.3,5.0, or even 4.3.1
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
I doubt this. Why would Google "dogfeed" a test build to unsuspecting employees? Surely they would expect some feedback from employees that are running test builds, so in this scenario, the employee would have had to know what he had on his phone. Which is why I state it must now be a former employee. Maybe a disgruntled employee that quit. Other scenario would be Google orchestrated this leak.
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
Maybe google planned the leak so that we here at xda could know whats coming and get super excited and the whole thing could spread up on the net xD :P
[Nexus 4 General] swest6602:
"I don't really like the way Google handles updates. I think once per year would be way better because then it gives time for OEM's to catch up. What the point of releasing an update when really, only nexus phones get them at a decent timely matter? I mean seriously isn't the iPhone 4 getting an iOS 7 update.."

Apple has done a good job of pretending they update every device. In fact the iPhone 4 will get only a very limited version of iOS 7. The iPad 3, which is 15 months old will not even get every feature of iOS 7.

Google on the other hand has removed its core apps from the OS. When a major update is pushed to GMail or Maps, every device with compatible hardware gets the update. Things have changed dramatically in the last year. Unfortunately, the press doesn't notice or point these changes out.
[Nexus 4 General] RohanM:
guys check this... :)

Android 4.3 improvements detailed in video including big battery boost

Source
[Nexus 4 General] efrant:
Not just that. It's signed with release keys, not test keys, and the version code corresponds to a release build, not a test build.

So, regardless of whether the guy was/is/never-was a Google employee, it's not really relevant - - the build is out. And it is easily flashable overtop of JDQ39 with no loss of data/apps/whatever. And if in fact it turns out to be a test/pre-release build, a simple flash of the system.img and boot.img files overtop (once they are released) and there is no difference.
[Nexus 4 General] immunityx:
Someone got the new nexus 7 already and its running the same exact build and date as the leaked 4.3 for nexus 4 so I'm not too excited for tomorrow.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
What exactly did you expect from 4.3 coming from 4.2 ?

Did everybody think this was going to be a whole new OS ? :what:
[Nexus 4 General] rysup:
Errr no it's a known bug with the Wi-Fi drivers from qualcomm...
[Nexus 4 General] aanonymoushuman:
Can someone post a screenshot showing the battery life time and SOT time on android 4.3
[Nexus 4 General] pchtc:
i have never had any of these wifi issues

as previously mentioned by other members

this could be a result of lower quality router
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
OMG... Research the issue before trying to be an authority on it.

Your probably find info in at least 1 of the many many many threads about it here, but I'll give you a heads up, check thracemerins thread for a thorough in depth info from a recognised dev.

You want half the world to change their routers to fix n4/Google error?
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
I am! We kinda figured the leak wouldn't change from when it was leak to tomorrow. But the excitement is for them to push it to aosp so our favorite ROM can run the latest and greatest. Plus usually every time there is a new version of android devs here add really neat features to their Roms :3
[Nexus 4 General] rysup:
Doesn't happen with my gnex connected to the same Wi-Fi network
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Does he detail why not everyone has these WiFi issues?
[Nexus 4 General] pchtc:
i have none of these issues

neither does any of my co-workers, friends, or family

that have nexus 4

---------- Post added at 10:38 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:33 PM ----------

well, if people have no problem spending money on getting expensive phones

and flashing them with custom roms

they should have no problem getting a decent router

and flashing a custom firmware (DDWRT, Tomato, etc..)
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Seems like we have plenty of first time nexus users in the forum. So here is how it worked in the past. Doesn't mean it will always stay the same but I don't see Google changing it.

When a new version of android is released ALONG with the new hardware. Like now the with nexus 7. The code drop and ota process doesn't start until the new device is on sale.

So why it isn't a absolute. Don't expect anything at all official until the new tablet is for sale.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Idk which 4.x update it was but it was announced and a day later it was available Google does it how ever they feel like doing it. It isn't written in stone that updates only come when hardware is for sale
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Hey. Does anyone know when I will get the 4.3 update? I'm living in India but my phone is from the US. I'm on stock.
[Nexus 4 General] Rohit02:
It will be announced tomorrow but might come to your device in the next week or so.:) have some patience. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] spaceman860:
If they start the rollout today we'll have it by the end if the day someone will post the link

From my BLACKED OUT N4
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
If there is not a new device yes it comes out basically right away.

When the next 7 launched they also gave out the galaxy nexus with a jelly bean preview. It was leaked right away of course. But it wasn't official for weeks later until the original nexus 7 hit retail.

When the 4 and the 10 were announced the same thing. No 4.2 until they were released.
[Nexus 4 General] cyan-000:
Battery drain - Android OS

I've checked it, but it's not the daemonsu. for me the systemui is the highest when enabling the CPU Usage.

so no one else has this issue? i guess i'll have to wipe data... :(
[Nexus 4 General] noodles2224:
Leak or official, always good to wipe because then there's problems.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] zerohunk:
I am not only getting wifi drops but also gettting 2g drops ... are u guys suggesting that i should replace my phone??
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
I remember when the nexus 4 leaked and was in the hands of some reviewers. Then when it released to consumers, an OTA was pushed immediately. I am expecting the same. Whenever 4.3 is ready for the public, an OTA will be pushed. That's my opinion

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] mattoaida:
Where did you get this leak
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Why would you expect the same? That's the only time Google have done that with their released.
[Nexus 4 General] tarroyo:
Post deleted!
[Nexus 4 General] mysterioustko:
That's not quite completely accurate. In order for a person to have a dogfooded version of Android on their phone, there is no way they can not know it's a confidential build, as there is an explicit acknowledge that has to be accepted before it can be downloaded. Also, if it is earlier on in the builds, they have to be a part of a particular group in order to have access to it.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
But there is a newer build for Google edition phones. I thought the build base itself is the same, but for GE phones, the OEMs put their own drivers in them :confused:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] favaroooo:
I don't know if it's already posted but on N4 with Android 4.3 will get improved performance:
[Nexus 4 General] cyan-000:
i actually did wipe after flashing this ROM, but i restored data from Titanium Backup...

probably caused a problem...
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
The difference between JWR66N (Nexus) and JWR66V (GPe) as described by Google themselves:

There is a lot more to the GPe phones than just drivers, they still contain the nasty OEM frameworks.
[Nexus 4 General] ore616:
ARRRGGHHHHHHHHHHH Just keen for something official!!!!! :p
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Waiting for source code to be announced, so devs can enhance upon Google's work.
[Nexus 4 General] Maxrunner:
Is there any indication of the drawer apps/widgets improved performance?