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[General Topics] nishcash:
If your usign ebay get them to take a photo with their name on a piece of paper next to the phone.
[General Topics] jianmushi:
I just go with ones with good ratings
[General Topics] barreb100:
joe

thanks
[General Topics] worf105:
Yes always go with sellers with outstanding ratings and if in doubt, don't buy.
[Off-topic] hemo-ali:
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[Off-topic] cgrugger:
Are you trying to make your own xda???
[Off-topic] hemo-ali:
Please I want a serious guys
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ezsoulja:
Definitely beneficial and I'm actually saving $1 by adding it to my account by basically replacing my current insurance with that plan which is cheaper and allows me to upgrade every 6 months.. Can't wait for the HTC one max and note 3 to be announced..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Rob the plumber:
They told me I had to wait until my current contract ended. Bummer. 9 more months.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Rhiannon224:
I was told that if I want to enroll I have to upgrade to a new phone with an EIP, nothing about my contract.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] culua:
Lol. I also enrolled too but I have to wait now and to 6 month to upgrade.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] janjannsen99:
How do you enroll I tried looking for it on tmobile page. But could not find anyth8ng
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ezsoulja:
I just called customer service and they enroll u no issues.. It's basically making a Change to Ur account..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] beezie916:
I was able to just do it on chat....i was already under EIP so now i have to wait 6 months and i am eligible for an upgrade....Jan here I come....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] crhitchings007:
There is an open enrollment period for current customers, you need to have a phone on EIP and thats it.

I came across this article comparing the new plans that TMobile and AT&T have intro'd - its worth a read if you are considering JUMP
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] shadow666:
I'm on a Classic plan my contract ends August next year. I wonder if I qualify for this? Already have insurance.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
So with Tmobile you can pay an extra $10 month and when a new phone is released you have to trade up the phone that is on the EIP.. sounds like a rip to me. But to each his own.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Nate Rules:
Let me know if I have this right. I am on a classic plan. When the Note 3 comes out, I go in and pay $200 to cancel my classic plan, then buy the Note 3 and sign up for jump!. Then sell my Note 2 to pay for all of this. The only problem I see is that I have had the Note 2 for 9 months and it is still the only phone I want.

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It's really more of an easy way to always have the latest and greatest. It's about the same price as selling your current phone and buying at full price. If you keep your phone in perfect condition and can sell it for top dollar than that is a better deal but a lot of hassle. I personally love this plan.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
**removed my previous statement**

Edit: after re-reading what you wrote I now understand it better so you can disregard my ramblings..lmao
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] firehawk1:
I was just able to do it on the tmo website. Very easy and totally worth it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Lord_Kaizer:
Now Verizon copied them also calling theirs "Edge", guess they see this program as a threat to take away their subscribers
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
This is good but would rather have timely updates to continue to make my phone feel new. My only concern is this could be an incentive for t mobile not to push updates. And if the carrier isn't pushing them the oems may decide it not necessary to update despite the fact they are almost always a year or more behind what aosp is. I mean 4.3 is around the corner and an we are still on 4.1.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Nate Rules:
I think that T-Mobile is being pretty generous. They are basically buying any phone back for $360 bucks ($20x18months). Which can't be a money maker for them. They are probably hoping that they can sell the refurbs real cheap and get more people on monthly plans. 0 down and $15 a month and they only break even.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Carriers are not going to push updates. If that's what you want Google editions or Nexus

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ezsoulja:
Well good thing we have xda.. Now only if Samsung would be open souring more, we're golden
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] one80oneday:
Sounds awesome but I've already had my GN2 for 9 months and everything else out right now it a downgrade if I switched. Don't see myself giving up GN2 anytime soon and don't like the idea of renting a device.

Just my 2c
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
They do push out updates for a lot of the flagship devices. Hence the gs2 started on gingerbread and now has jellybean(I would bet money that's where it will end) I am well aware that unless something radically changes it will always be slow especially since they are dependent on oems. My concern is that this could make things worst. Unless Samsung starts pushing their own os (what ever it's called) and bypasses the carriers through kies like how apple does it through itunes. In the end I am happy with touchwiz and am looking more forward to an updated touchwiz rather than an updated android version.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] janjannsen99:
I called tmobile and they told me I can't enroll in jump....what the hell? I bought my phone and plan in October of last year.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
They will never bypass the carriers because their fear is the carriers will not carry the phone. TW is not much more than an overlay of the OS and is still dependant on the underlying Android operating system. The answer is Google edition phones.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] badpanda:
So veredict...is it worth it yes or no.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
Samsung does have their own independent os I believe is called tizen. Samsung. Google edition/nexus is not the answer if you don't prefer aosp. If I wanted 4.2.2 I could have it now nothing is stopping me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ungraph:
I bought my Note 2 unsubsidized from ebay and I'm on the $50 monthly 4G plan. Am I eligible for JUMP?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] luigi90210:
no, you have to have a device installment plan to qualify
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ungraph:
Ah. Thanks for the reply!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
If he were to get a a device on an installment plan then he would qualify
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] janjannsen99:
Ysll need to listen to THIS GUY he knows what hes talking about. And I dont even like him that much no offense ronnie ruff ;) but when it comes to android he IS the info go to. So stop spouting bs and start listening
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] luigi90210:
Probably, just go online and see the requirements to sign up. I know having a device instalment plan was one of them, I think you can not be in contract as well but I'm not 100% sure.

I know I quality because I have a device installment plan but I'm also on T-Mobile's simple plan so Idk if that has anything to do with it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
It's funny how "no contract" makes us more and more financially responsible to TMO for TONS of money. Used to be you could get a phone, cancel a month later, and pay a piddly ETF. Try doing that now and not only will you owe them like $600 for the phone you agreed to pay for but they'll likely block it if you don't. So sure, you're free to cancel with them at any time, as long as you have the hundreds of dollars to pay them for your phone! Jump seems like a great idea but it sounds to me like you're on the hook for another 2 years from the time you got your last phone basically, or until you can pay off the phone that is. Every time you get a new phone your starting your 2 year payment plan all over again.

Jeez, these mofo's at Tmobile are pretty smart. Not only do they have us paying for our own phones now, but they have us indebted to them for 4x's more than we use to be. The accountants have got to be absolutely loving this.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] clj575:
? Think of it as more of a 6 month lease program until you opt out and then pay off the last phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
Which is going to cost you over $500. Unless you don't have that much money to spend and have to pay it off monthly. For 2 years. Without getting a new phone. But who is going to wait that long if they want to switch carriers? My point being, not paying your bill will result in a lot bigger credit hit than it used to, and you might not be on a contract but essentially you are.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
Your not obligated to buy a phond through them. And t mobile has had the eip program for a long time
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
This thread is pretty funny! People think phones grow on trees

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
What are you smoking? With Jump, if you ever want to leave TMO, you DO have to buy they phone from them. You can't just decide one day you are going to leave, give them the phone back, and that's it. You have to pay off your phone if you ever want to leave. Therefore, you either pay them the $500+ you owe on the phone still, or you're stuck with them.

Second, they have not had the EIP program for a long time. Unless you consider less than a year a long time.

What part of this are you not understanding?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
I know people expect t mobile to just give you a phone

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1.) Your rude

2.) You don't have to get a phone on eip or enroll jump you can bring your own device and quit when ever you want with out a fee

3.) Yes they had eip installment plan for a long time. They had this program with the value plan. Which not only you had a to pay the value plan you also had to pay the etf.

4.) Because you put a down payment your not paying $600 your paying around $300-400

5.) If you do decide to terminate your service before phone is paid off sell it on ebay pay the difference and you still. May have a Benjamin left over

6.) As Ronnie said people think phones grow on trees. You think t mobile will let you walk away from a phone like the note 2 or gs4 for only a $150-200?

7.) Bottom line t mobile gives you the option to have the latest phones on credit the phone isn't free however you can make a small down payment and pay off the balance on each bill. You can make a bigger down payment or pay more than the minimum each month so you can have it paid off sooner than 2 years. How is this a bad thing?

8.) The customer is should be aware what they are getting themselves into and realize the consequences if they decide to terminate services
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
1) And you're an idiot.

2) We are talking about JUMP in this thread so yes you have to buy a phone on EIP and yes you have to pay a fee, it's called the amount remaining on your phone.

3) Apparently less than a year is a long time for you. An ETF of $200 makes us a lot less responsible financially than $600+.

4) A down payment doesn't count toward the cost of a phone? It's still 600 bucks dude

5) Not a lot of people are eBay savvy and you could end up getting screwed big time if you don't know what you're doing.

6) Add in the cost of the down payment plus my monthly bill and they're getting a lot more from me than their $150-200 ETF

7) It's not a bad thing, but most people who are going to use this program aren't going to pay more than the EIP each month. Then every 6 months when they get the newest phone your EIP starts all over again.

8) I agree the customer SHOULD be aware. Unfortunately most people these days are not very smart.

My point is still that "no contract" is very very much still on contract unless you have $600 to either buy a phone outright or pay them off. Most people aren't going to do that. Me personally I could care less if I never actually owned my phone if I always had the latest and greatest. The problem lies in, what if I don't want to be with TMO anymore? It's going to cost me a lot more than the $150 ETF that it used to cost.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jackpearce:
To make this less confusing, T-Mobile should have just allowed early upgrades every year with the customer paying the down payment plus an extra $20 a month into the new bill for 1 year which covers the cost of the previous phone and an early termination of like $350 that is pro rated after a year.

Make sense?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Jcan78:
They introduced the plans to give people more ownership and flexibility. The people who want the latest phones likely wont care about the small charge each month to have this option... Actually not bad since it includes the protection plan. I personally hated being locked into a high priced contract (EIP built in) for two years until it was fiscally appropriate to upgrade. The no-contract plans and Jump program works because Tmobile offers cheaper baseline plans. If you look at it closely, the total you pay for the jump plan will be similar to what the other carriers charge while locking you down for two years. Only now you have the option to upgrade every few months. That's a great thing :good: There is a reason why other carriers are quickly adopting this plan!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] clj575:
I understand the program....I am just not whining about it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
the down payment very much counts towards the phone otherwise it wouldn't be a down payment. You were *****ing about paying the ballance off which you have to do regardless if you enroll in jump or not. And you can have the newest phones without having signing up for jump. These phones do have resale value sell them and pay the balance and your golden. That's how I got the note 2. I sold my old gs3 and paid and bought a note 2 for a very reasonable price on ebay.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] adamcooks:
I got my first samsux phone on eip with tmobile, the "behold II" it was running eclair and I believe it was 05'
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
I think people are misunderstanding me here. I totally love the idea and am probably going to switch over from my classic plan when the time is right. I'd actually in the end only spending about 8 bucks more a month, plus the down payments, from what im paying now. Thats fine with me. It would actually save me the ebay hassle every time I want a new phone too as with this plan I dont even think the ebay route is worth it.

My only gripe is, how they have masterfully locked people in without there technically being a contract. My one other no contract worry is, whats to keep them from raising the prices another $10-20 across the board? Our prices are not locked in as far as I can tell.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ezsoulja:
It's beneficial to everyone.. T-Mobile and us users.. If your like me and want the best phone out or in our case the biggest thing out.. Then paying $300 as the new customer pricing is a whole lot better than buying it outright retail for $700+.. And continue to make monthly payments which is still a better deal than any carrier as in unlimited and all goes..

They get the old device back to sell which u used all the good new from and now u got a better phone to use.. So in my case I get to get my hands on a newer greater phone quicker and cheaper..

Not to mention it replaces ur insurance so your not paying extra for the jump program but more a lateral service change
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] badpanda:
I like the concept it makes sense...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Nate Rules:
If you look at Verizons "jump" program, you can see the benefits of T-Mobiles way. They have their subsidy included in their monthly payments. So when you sign up for Edge you are paying for the subsidy and paying for the full retail.

I did like how it used to be, I would just switch carriers all the time, but I'm looking forward to signing up for jump!. I don't think it will save me any money but it will save me a lot of hassle selling phones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] pyraxiate:
Tony yayo..... You should be a bit more polite in your posts. In the end, it does make you look like an idiot.

As far as jump goes and you saying people still have to pay $600 for a phone, I wonder where in your mind do you think any other carrier is giving away free premium phones. You obviously dont understand how subsidizing works.

I'll break it down.

Att gives you a phone at a fraction of the cost but locks you into a much higher rate for 24 months. In the end, all customers going this route will pay nearly double for their phone by the time they are ready to upgrade to another device.... yes Double! The contract cancellation fee is to hopefully make up for the phone you didn't have to buy at a retail price.

Tmobile on their regular plans have no contract. You can cancel at any time, provided you pay for your phone in full. Mind you their advertised price may look higher, but in the end is much cheaper ( most times half) than paying the difference of subsidizing the phone into the cost of service over 2 years.

The new jump plan is no different. You dont have to upgrade every 6 months if you don't want to. Upgrading means you trade your old phone in to pay the remaining balance on your existing phone, and basically start all over with a shiny new one. There still isn't a contract, BUT you do still need to pay for whatever phone you still have. You can't just say, " Hey I'm leaving tmobile .... and by the way ha you aren't getting paid for the device I just took from you". That's a theft charge technically......

Tmobile just basically Allows you finance the phone with zero interest..... That's Friggen awesome if you ask me.

Personally im not a fan of jump. When something comes out I want, I'll sell what I have on CL or eBay, and pay for the next phone outright ( or a good chunk of it ).

Jump is not the same thing as being locked into a contract. You still have an obligation to pay for the phone you are using. . .. That's not a cancellation fee.... That's paying for your device since you didn't pay for it outright to begin with!

Financing only Allows people without money to buy something they couldn't afford otherwise. At 20 bucks a month that's not a bad deal at all.

If you can't really afford something..... Don't try to buy it unless you know for sure you will stay until thefinancing is completed. You still have to pay for the item in your possession !! It's like a bank loan to buy a car. You cant just not pay the bank back. .... its the same exact thing!

Just because a bank says " Hey your credit is Good. ... heres 400k to buy a house. ..... Does that mean on a dishwasher / waiter's salary you should go spend that much?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
Have I said anything contradictory to what you just said here? No, I didn't. People need to learn how to read, not my fault if their comprehension is not very good. Do I expect a free phone? No. I paid for mine. Cash. It wasn't cheap. I've bought and sold phones on ebay so yes, I KNOW how that works. I agree that most people still save money on TMO over other companies. But I guarantee you most of them are spending more money a year on their phones and monthly payments than they were 2 years ago.

I agree, 20 bucks a month for a phone is a good deal but I didn't have to pay 20 bucks a month more the last time I upgraded like I'll have to now. I'll probably buy mine cash like I usually do though. Actually my last phone cost me about $150 more than my original TMO phone so thats basically another 10 bucks a month over the life of my current contract than the previous one. I'm sure their profit sheet looks a lot better with all of their customers indebted to them for hundreds of dollars for a phone that they weren't before. Makes their value look a lot bigger than before. If you have 1 million customers who now owe you $400 a piece in the eyes of the banks you're worth $400 million dollars more now. So not only do we make them look wealthier and more valuable, but we also make them more profitable by giving them another $20 a month. You people understand that, right? Again, I understand other companies are higher and that part of that is the cost of the phone built in, but that has nothing to do with the fact that we are spending more money monthly than we were before.

I never said anything about not paying Tmobile for a phone. Yes that would be theft. Yes that would affect your credit. Or you could pay the ETF. Before that was what, $150? Even if it had been a month that is all it would cost you. Yes I know that that is not morally right, and I would never do it, but I realize that it happens and they have to cover their ass somewhat. But now, if you're 6 months in with TMO and want to leave, you gotta come up with $360 if you want to go. Or wait it out. Or get that shiny new phone and go back to square one. The old contract is starting to sound better and better to me.

I apologize for believing the way TMO has played out this whole no contract thing is a joke and very sneaky. Apparently that must be what's pissing people off but it was an observation. I thought that's what we are all doing here is making observations. If you don't agree with me fine but don't repeat back to me the same things I've already said and call me rude.

Sorry for such a long post but apparently I have to spell everything out to the letter in order to not confuse anyone.

Lastly, I still am waiting for someone to give me their thoughts on "no contract" giving them the ability to RAISE rates if they like? Since that is all I'm worried about really as I pay for my phones and most of what I've had to debate in this post is of no real concern to me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
It would be suicide for t mobile to raise the prices significantly. The etf from other carriers is a lot more expensive. The point of me and the guy you quoted is that it's optional to to be locked into a eip plan or jump for that matter. You can bring in your own device and pay a really low rate. If jump doesn't work don't sign up for it. I think it's cool that it includes insurance many people will pay for the service for that alone.

T mobile is really trying hard to benefit the consumer while trying to make a buck. They are doing something unheard of until recently which is post paid yet contract free. Sure I call cs to btch and complain and they have pulled fast ones but I commend them for thinking outside the box. They are a business and profit is their main objective and good for them. Thank the powers that be that they are starting to get quality phones even got the iphone (don't care but millions do), they are getting the Samsung flag ships, htc, and even have the nexus. I want them to continue to offer high end devices like the note 2 and iphone (not that I would ever want that phone)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jghidalgo307:
No company does anything for customers benefits only, lets be real.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tony yayo:
So for those who made the "Jump", how ya liking it so far?