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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
Directly from the TOS

"If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan or if a particular rate plan is no longer supported or available, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify."

Granted if that did happen it would be a material change and one could most likely opt out

Though I agree that my opinion is there will be no imediate changes to plans, they have put some effort into that verbage and the unlimited guaranty only on the all in plans.

The assumption being made is they won't force people on to the new plans from old plans "someday"

I am curious...was there always a $1.99 fee for paper billing or was that added in the 7/1 TOS
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cytality:
Yes there always was. Be default, we enroll ALL customer in eBilling because Sprint is the nation's 3rd "greenest" company. Customers can opt for paper billing if eBilling or seeing account details online is too complicated for them, but there is a fee.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
Nm...after a few minutes of research I found it was added 1/1/12..not added on this TOS but definitely not always there.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cytality:
Apologies.. I say ALWAYS as in, "since I've been working here." I started working for Sprint as of 11/14/12... Obviously I don't know much about what Sprint did before I started working for them, and only aware of new information and changes.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tft:
so basically all grandfathered plans will be locked to the same phone forever, and the only way to get a new phone model you would have to change your plan, or buy a used phone and do a swap if you want to keep your plan. really hope this backfires on them..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cytality:
No one said "forever." Look at NEXTEL for example. Sprint let Nextel customers keep their Nextel plans for a LONG time, but just recently shut down the entire network, forcing them to switch to Sprint or go to a different carrier. Eventually, but further down the road, ALL customers will have to switch to the new plans. Why would Sprint want to retain a system that is all over the place with different rate plans? Just depends on when.

But yes, if you upgrade you will have to switch. If you BUY a phone outright and don't renew your contract then honestly I do not know. We use a system called SNAP to modify customer plans and we can only choose options that system lets us. When we do a service swap for a customer (adding a phone that they bought outright) we do come across a screen that asks us if we want to retain the current plan and contract. If this option isn't there then we would be forced to change your plan.

However, if you're forced to upgrade with customer owned equipment then Sprint allows you to official upgrade within 30 days to a brand new phone... if you choose.

And as the guy who loves to correct me said earlier, not all plans will be grandfathered and Sprint obviously retains the right to switch you automatically if they need to.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
Don't take it personal ....

But there is a reason why Sprint has employees agree not to do exactly what you are doing...

Not to mention that most of these threads have nothing to do with the S4 and are (excessively in my opinion) posted in the S4 device specific area

Only that. Soley opinion ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cytality:
lol, well you got me there... ;) Only reason I stick to the S4 thread for Sprint is because it's the phone I use. I certainly don't have the time or patience to juggle between 10 different Sprint related forums.

Also, not that it really matters, but I work for a Preferred retailer and not Sprint themselves. I never once signed an agreement that says I will not disclose Sprint inside information. Although I do agree it's frowned upon.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xe4zy:
Im a sprint rep as well. My 2 cents. Anybody that upgrades there phone in august will be forced to do this. This a soft roll out and right now its another option we have. More in depth people who get the new plan willbe grandfathered in to everything unlimited. Cause after lte is actually lit everywhere plans will change again. But customers who pay their bill on time will stay with this plan forever. As far as the throttle it will only be to high excessive users probably around the 10 gb you will experience this. Long story short (too late) switch!! Unless the cluster **** that minnesota is experiencing with its 3 to 6 months of reprovisioning the 3g network. If you can ride that out with missed calls and text messages and constant drop calls then stay but when its done we will be neck and neck with verizon thanks to softbank.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Glitterloveglamour:
I was ready to switch my plan (only have one line). If I'm paying the same amount I might as well be unlimited even if I only use like 100/450 minutes. But it seems I would not be able to transfer my employee discount AT ALL.... There is no way I am switching if I don't have my discount, I hardly ever have service, my data is soooo slow barely usable. I pay around $60+ for mediocre service I am not switching and paying more for what is essentially the same thing...

I do however think it is better for the people that do not have a discount on their phone....

So does anyone know if I am able to swap phones without switching plans? It seems a lot of people here are confused about that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cooljb:
I chatted online with a sprint rep and called and talked to one on the phone as well and both told me I would NOT have to change plans when I upgrade - which I'm planning on doing for two of my lines next month. In addition, based on info posted on androidpolice.com that appears to be the internal sprint info they gave to employees indicates (in as vague and ambiguous terms as possible!) that customers can keep their existing plans. This would be huge for me as I have 4 lines and get a corporate discount. Between the higher rates and the fact that only the data portion of the plan is discounted on the new plans, I would be paying roughly $50 more a month if I had to switch. And all I would get for that extra $50 is some completely USELESS unlimited minutes. I currently use between 200-300 anytime minutes a month with 4 lines, so I don't need more minutes.

I'm sure sprint is keeping its employees just as much in the dark as us customers on the specific impacts these new plans will have on customers. I sure would like to know, BEFORE I buy 2 new phones, whether or not my bill is going to go up $50 a month when I do.

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If any sprint reps on here can answer this question, it might clear things up. One other thing I asked the reps I spoke with today was do they still offer the Simply Everything/Everything Data plans today. In other words, could a new customer signing up for service today get one of those plans. They said yes - which leads me to believe if a new customer can get those plans, certainly I should be able to keep mine. Also there was some mention of this in the employee handout on androidpolice.com. It's posted like an FAQ - it says "When should we offer the Simply Everything/Everything Data plans versus the new rate plans?" The answer (it's long) is:

"For gross adds, the newest rate card is the lead offer.

For base customers further evaluation is needed..."

The most interesting part of the answer is the following:

"Note: Sometimes an Everything rate plan may be the more favorable option for the customer."

It goes on longer but basically says do what's best for the customer's "experience".

I still cannot find anything in writing that specifically spells out what will happen for customer upgrades. However I do see at least a sliver of hope that we may get to keep our plans with an upgrade.

Alas we won't DEFINITIVELY know until someone actually does an upgrade now and tells the world if they were able to keep their plan or not...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
As of now peopke keep their plans...no one knows how long this will be the case. I have read here November and August ...the uppers in corp Sprint I have spoken with know nothing
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] furry:
Also just fyi (be advised) switching to one of the new plans deactivates your google voice link and there is no way to reactivate it!!! I know this because it happened to me this morning. I switched plans and got an email that my google voice had been deactivatd by Sprint. I spent 1hr on the phone with Sprint and all they could come up with is the new plans do not support this option. I worked my way through people and ended up speaking to some high up dude who said the programming wasn't enabled yet. He placed my back down on my old plan (I went up then back down, I checked my acct).. I signed a new contract last week so we'll see how things go but for now I'll stay with the old because the new is BROKEN! lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joe.stay:
I've been eligible for an upgrade since July 1st. I was hoping for a triband galaxy s4 to come out soon to upgrade to that. I'm on Sero-P and do not want to change my plan. Now, I'm afraid to upgrade my phone because I don't know if they will let me keep my current plan or not.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eskomo:
The info I received today is that they cannot force you into a new plan and cannot throttle your data if you stay on the Simply Everything plan because non throttling is in the Simply Everything contract. And doing so would be a contractual break on Sprints end and cause potential litigation.

The non throttling of data speeds was not a verbal agreement or just something they provided out of kindness, it is contractual and advertised. This sets the stage for a change to how they roll out the new plans.

This is what I was told by a Corp Rep. Not a store salesperson.

BTW, no matter what plan you have... you don't need to change plans if you buy a phone outright. You can keep the plan indefinitely this way.

Sent from my SGS4. Go Blue!! Buck the Fuc keyes!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
Not sure why they would tell you this other than to just calm the situation. The terms of service changed on 7/1 for all Sprint customers regardless of plan, not to mention that the TOS has always had a throttle clause for as long as I can remember. The same applies for litigation as well, and for modifications to the contract. There have been paragraphs in you terms of service regarding those things for years.

Currently there is no way to know what Softbank is going to do to the existing plans (or corp reps for that matter haha)

They could pull an ATT and let people keep them or they could pull a Verizon and only let you keep in if you are not buying subsidized...

Sprint could also charge more for those plans in the future...I have seen them do that more than once in the past 13 years

The truth is that the only thing "certain" right now are that there are a ton of opinions on what could or what will happen with those plans.

For example...it is my opinion that you don't suddenly change your TOS adding the right to change plans or pricing AND offer new plans that are the ONLY two plans that offer an unlimited for life guaranty without some forward thinking involved
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrjeff2:
Where in the TOS does it say this? I just skimmed through it and was having trouble finding this wording. Thanks.

edit: Nevermind, found it. This kind of matches up with some users receiving letters asking them to switch to Sero Premium from some crazy $20 something plan they currently have.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 00mred00:
http://shop2.sprint.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?ECID=vanity:termsandconditions

"Our Right To Change The Agreement & Your Related Rights

We may change any part of the Agreement at any time, including, but not limited to, rates, charges, how we calculate charges, discounts, coverage, technologies used to provide services, or your terms of Service. If you lose your eligibility for a particular rate plan or if a particular rate plan is no longer supported or available, we may change your rate plan to one for which you qualify. We will provide you notice of material changes—and we may provide you notice of non-material changes—in a manner consistent with this Agreement (see "Providing Notice To Each Other Under The Agreement" section). If a change we make to the Agreement is material and has a material adverse effect on Services under your Term Commitment, you may terminate each line of Service materially adversely affected without incurring an Early Termination Fee only if: (a) call us within 30 days after the effective date of the change; (b) you specifically advise us that you wish to cancel Services because of a material change to the Agreement that we have made; and (c) we fail to negate the change after you notify us of your objection to it. If you do not notify us and cancel Service within 30 days of the change, an Early Termination Fee will apply if you terminate Services before the end of any applicable Term Commitment."
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] BamAlmighty:
If my Sero plans ever goes away, T-Mobile here I come.
[Motorola Droid 4] vitaversus:
Hi,

I installed the cyanogenmod 10.1 on my Droid 4 and I can't connect to the GSM network. Simply I have no signal.

I tried to select GSM/WCDMA option in network settings but it doesn't work.

I'm in Italy, without GSM network I can't use the phone.

With the stock JB firmware I don't have this problem. Any solution?

Thanks
[Motorola Droid 4] lucize:
Search fot tobys gsm patch or search for the build.prop modifications you need to do.
[Motorola Droid 4] skyss07:
There is a Mentor cmgsmupdater for CM 10.1.2 in Android Development Section and it works greatly in my Avatar Rom running in CM 10.1.2
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
Hey guys, I have been looking through the forums and have not found an answer to my confusion. I have the dev edition in the US, and I am not sure what steps to follow to root and unlock the bootloader. I don't know the difference between unlocked and s-off, so I am not sure where to start.

I have rooted a number of phones before, but they were always carrier versions so I knew exactly where to start from. Any direction would be great, and I apologize if this has been asked 50 times before.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ImJacky:
What version of hboot do you have? If you have 1.44.0000 you can do S-Off and Unlock the bootloader using Revone

If you have 1.54.0000 you can't do S-Off
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Dev edition comes with an unlocked bootloader, all you would need to do is flash a custom recovery,twrp will root the device for you,simplest way if JUST looking for root
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
Pardon my ignorance, but what would I gain by looking for more than root?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
How do I check which hboot I have?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NxNW:
At some point you will need a USB cable and a computer (with the android sdk installed on it) to make any of the changes you are contemplating, and there are commands you can run from your computer's terminal app (while the phone is connected to the computer via USB) that tell you what HBOOT you have, but for purely informational purposes, the is a non- technical way to determine your HBOOT:

- power off phone all the way (make sure "fast boot" is turned off in settings..power)

-hold down volume-down and power buttons simultaneously for several seconds until screen turns white

- HBOOT version is clearly visible from this screen. Write down every version number or other info that you see for future reference. Consider taking a photo of this screen.

-to leave this environment, use volume key to change the highlighted selection, and the power button to actually invoke it: select "fastboot" then "reboot" to reboot gracefully
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
OK, I just did what you said and the HBOOT is 1.44.0000. So, based on what was said earlier, I am good to do the Revone option? If I do Revone, what am I missing out on compared to any other option? Thanks for the help!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NxNW:
Go for it. I had 1.44 and eventually got revone to work. [ there is an undocumented tip that may help you (power off the device "hard", ie hold down power button for like 15 or 20 seconds, between each step), but you'll want to discuss that and any other issues you encounter with revone in the revone thread of course. ] I cant think of any negative side effects that i have experienced. And as those with hboot 1.55 have discovered, its always good to get S-OFF while you can. You may not have the chance later. Good luck.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Well obviously your looking to flash thngs,there are many options,this is why i said if you were just looking to root the device
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
Yeah, I want to flash. If all I do is root, am I still able to flash other ROMs? I can never keep straight what each of the different processes do.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
Whats the deal with Revone and the HTC One tool kit here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2183942. My goal is to flash 4.2.2 roms and soon 4.3, so would I want to do both or just Revone.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NxNW:
Here is an old article that covers some basic terminology, specifically geared toward HTC phones. Much of it applies to the HTC One (although the stuff about the difficulty flashing kernels in recovery does not pertain- we have it much easier).

http://www.pocketables.com/2012/08/...nlocked-bootloader-in-the-htc-evo-series.html

Also check out this famous post https://plus.google.com/103583939320326217147/posts/P1i8qzLfkTm

The second article clearly states you don't need S-Off to flash ROMs, but the first article also notes those who are going through the trouble of unlocking/rooting generally do S-OFF while they are at it.

As for hasoon's toolkit, I personally have avoided it. There are other ways to root.

For instance, if you install the latest version of a custom recovery such as TWRP or CWM, they actually give you a menu option to root whatever ROM is currently installed.

Check back again after you've gotten caught up on your reading.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
Its funny, I came across the first article while looking for answers while I waited for your response. I never mess with radios so S-Off is not really important to me. The second article was even better and more clear so I think I know where I am now.

The last question for you is what you would suggest I use for the most trouble free rooting process. I am looking for a pretty low impact route, and you did seem to imply that it took some work to get revone working for you. The toolkit seems to be a good way to go, but it also says that it unlocks the boot, which I already have with the dev edition. Will that be a problem if the process tries to unlock an already unlocked phone?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindstar1:
I ran into an issue following your directions (which were basically the same as the YouTube video about the "easiest way to install custom recovery for the htcone" that I got off another xda thread. I run the command to fastboot flash recovery, and my PC gives me an error saying that fastboot is not a valid command. I have the proper drivers installed, and I am in fastboot on my phone but it won't work. I did notice that on the thread you linked to above, they want my recovery file to be in some sdk folder or something. My directions didn't mention that and the directions you linked to mention an sdk file in the bootloader section, but it tells me to skip that if I have a dev edition. Is the sdk file the reason why my computer won't recognize the command? For what it's worth, I tried that toolkit and it did not seem to recognize my phone either.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NxNW:
EDIT Just a general tip - you can copy the text of any error message you get and paste it into google and you will doubtless turn up a bunch of interesting info - you are very likely not the first person to encounter the issue.

Anyway here's what I think is happening:

Sometimes when you try to give a command from the command line, a computer doesn't know where the necessary executable file is.

If the SDK was installed ok , then somewhere on your computer is the actual fastboot.exe executable.

Find it.

If it is in a folder called C:\path\to\files\blah\blah then you need to actually type out C:\path\to\files\blah\blah\fastboot.exe to run it.

If you will be doing more commands in this location or any commands that refer to other files in the same location (and some if these procedures assume you will since you'll be putting the flashable image files in this location), you really should tell your terminal program to just change the "working directory" to that location: then whenever you refer to something the computer will look there first. Here's how that looks:

cd C:\path\to\files\blah\blah

fastboot

(Final note- going forward you can make it easier to launch executables by adding their location to your "PATH variable" - google it. )

Maybe you knew all this? But for the benefit of anyone else following these bread crumbs, here's the upshot: Most of these "procedures" that people write down assume some general knowledge of command line syntax. If you're not comfortable with that yet, you're going to need to be persistent and search google a lot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] starkillers:
After the new update, I noticed that Google services remains high up on the usage list under my battery stats. I am not rooted and stock. I haven't changed any other of my Google settings since the update nor have I installed any new apps. I installed better battery stats, and although phone is sleeping, under partial wake locks it shows nlpwakelock at the top which is some sort of Google service. Any ideas? Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] nuonce:
I had this also. This is what I did.

Uninstall Google maps update from Applications. Clear cache/data (whatever is there) and reboot.

Update Maps from play store.

I found this by searching Google, it worked for me, hopefully for you. Now if I can figure out a good screen setting so that won't kill my battery.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] slvrap1:
I haven't received the update yet but the last few days Google services has used the most battery where normally the display is the highest. I checked my sync settings and my contacts, calendar, ect had errors and it said at the bottom "sync experiencing problems" I unchecked everything and rechecked one by one. Now I don't even see Google services on the battery stats anymore
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] starkillers:
Sync was working fine, and tried the above maps suggestion and still getting that darned Google services.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] starkillers:
Well, it appears it was google+ related. I just got an update for google+ and Google services no longer remains on top of the battery stats for now. I'll have to keep an eye on it and report back.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] cruise350:
Google had a major outage this week that affected a lot of the apps that use google services. The high drain might have been caused by the outage and apps continually trying to sync with down servers.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshoot] starkillers:
Just out of curiosity, my phone has been running for just over 16 hours and Google services is still showing in battery stats and that it's kept my phone awake for 12 minutes. Although my battery seems to be getting good life, I'm curious what others are showing for awake time for google services. Thanks guys.