yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fairphone 1] haiag:
Here is a petition to Mediathek, to OS the drivers for their hardware, maybe with enough people, it will work

http ://www.ipetitions.com/petition/aosp-support-for-mediatek-devices?utm_medium=email&utm_source=system&utm_campaign=Send%2Bto%2BFriend
[Fairphone 1] fredflegel:
Positive Attitude

hi!

i wanted to thank everybody for the useful information. I think it's great that there are so many people engaging here.

but I also think that we as customers should keep friendly and respectful, because this is how we want to be treated. spreading angry assumptions does help nobody. if Kim and or Joe will return to this forum, it should not feel like enemy territory to them. I think we cannot throw money at a social enterprise and then berhave like children expecting to be treated as kings.

keep positive, thinks will be sorted out.
[Fairphone 1] benkxda:
I wrote to the author of the Heise article. He replied, maybe there will be an update of it. If so, it may contain something about [MENTION=3833079]mudar1488[/MENTION]'s fork Peace of Mind+.

EDIT:

To be honest, usually a consumer/customer never is treated as a king. Best example, Samsung customers. But we're not the enemy of Fairphone. We just want to wake them up. There were major problems and the customers have to live with all these conditions. And of course we're here to get out the best of a Fairphone, that's what XDA is very well known for. I am not a customer, but I am a person behind the idea of fair products and I want to push the development of the Fairphone.

It's the first project of Fairphone, so nobody can expect a perfect selling/building/delivering and, sorry to say, we cannot expect perfect support. BTW, which company does this perfectly? However, in hardware and software modification we can help on XDA. Again, we are not enemies, we want to get the best out of the device.

What I totally dislike is intransparency. Fairphone made a mistake? Fine, let's talk about it. But stopping any conversation leads to loss of confidence. This is how some other companies do it, this is not the right way. Of course Fairphone wanted to be sure that every communication is not again spotted with some wrong statements, but saying nothing is like "I don't care". After the last recent mistakes with the suddenly changed SoC and the delivery problems, Fairphone was so quiet. Too quiet. I really hope they get back to a social company and stop talking the way they chose recently.

In short: Let's get it on, let's do what is possible with the (re)sources (first result is Peace of Mind+) and we just can hope that Fairphone wants to help their customers and communicates with the developers.
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
Detailed Fairphone video-review (unboxing) on Computer-Bild (German). The Guy from Computer-Bild tells us also, that the fairphone-cam is not completely crappy. Well in the dark it has some weak points (like the most of the Mobilephone-Cams), but there is nothing said about an color fault to red, like it's mentioned in the Heise review.

@ Benkxda: You have access to an fairphone right? Maybe you can post us some Pictures/Videos made with the phone, if you have a minute? ;) I'm very interested about that, and I can't find others.

Greets,

Asmaron

:)

EDIT:

I agree 100% to that! Thanks Benkxda for clarifying! :)
[Fairphone 1] fredflegel:
Your totally right with that and let me thank you again for your work in this thread. I know XDA is full of great people, but the tone sometimes gets very aggressive. I hope that fairphone get back here and engages in the discussion, but i just wanted to remind everybody that they are people as well who probably worked very hard during between the years and had a lot of stress. I just want this discussion to stay focused on problem solving and not getting offensive.
[Fairphone 1] benkxda:
They are enthusiasts, so are we. Combined we can get a great device.
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
Hey!

Sorry for spamming right here! ;) I've found a Bolg (German - how could it else be) from another Fairphone-Enthusiast (Florian Heer) containing some very, very interesting Infos (GPS, FM-Radio)! Even some pictures & video made with the FP. :)

http://blog.loco-toys.de/wordpress/ :good:

Maybe he want's to join us - or is he already here? :)

Regards,

Asmaron
[Fairphone 1] globuli:
I'm not benkxda, but I have some example pictures / videos at my blog (blog.loco-toys.de/wordpress/) and will add some more tonight. Sorry, still all in German, but maybe I'll be able to set up an English version as well.

I'm looking at the reddish center in particular, as I didn't notice it before Heise wrote about it. It seems my examples are a bit affected as well. Yesterday evening I took some test pictures of white paper (under my desk lamp, not yet published), and the red in the center was quite noticable. Today I took a row of pictures in the sunlight, with varying settings, let's see whether those show the same issue.
[Fairphone 1] benkxda:
Oh, you are already in here. Great ;)

Very good pictures and information on your blog. Will put it into the links in the OP.

My access to the Fairphone is more than 30 mins away, so it's not a quickly accessible device.
[Fairphone 1] globuli:
Yes, actively involved now.

I have posted some pictures now at blog.loco-toys.de/wordpress/2014/01/fairphone-rotstich-in-der-mitte-von-bildern/. I'll start writing a short summary of all of my Fairphone information in English now, I hope I can help the one or the other with that.

I find it quite interesting that both cameras show a reddish center. I did not expect that, or else I would have taken more pictures with the front camera. The one with the front camera is interesting in other respects as well, the JPEG has a resolution of 2560x1920 (~5MP), which doesn't fit a 1.3MP camera....

Cheers!

Addition: at loco-toys.de/devices/fairphone/ I started with the English summary. Work in progress, will probably always be a little bit behind the blog. But then again, as a summary it will be a bit more ordered.
[Fairphone 1] haiag:
There's a comment from heise to the Fairphone

http ://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Kommentar-Das-Fairphone-ist-gut-genug-2074961.html
[Fairphone 1] benkxda:
Ok, will add it into OP. Your English website's first link to Fairphone part of your blog is wrong (http://loco-toys.de/devices/fairphone/blog.loco-toys.de/wordpress/tag/fairphone/).

Already in the OP, haha. Not often I am fast enough, but this time I was. Thanks anyway.
[Fairphone 1] haiag:
I found even one more ;)

http ://www.computerbild.de/artikel/cb-Tests-Handy-Fairphone-8432542.html
[Fairphone 1] globuli:
Thank you! Didn't notice. Well, when you write your HTML in notepad... ;)

New addition to the blog: my first test of the GPS at blog.loco-toys.de/wordpress/2014/01/fairphone-erster-gps-test/
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
Update of Heise review about the battery-drain and other stuff:

As promised [MENTION=3833079]mudar1488[/MENTION]'s work on the Peace of Mind-widget is mentioned there. :)

Regards,

Asmaron

EDIT: The Fairphone launcher has been made available on Google Play.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lulebe.fairphone.launcher

Source Code on github: https://github.com/Kwamecorp/Fairphone
[Fairphone 1] knipper42:
Thanks for this tipp. Unfortunately it didn't work. I can use adb sideload, but then I get the message: "Installation aborted. Error".

Also a factory reset didn't work. This was suggested by the Fairphone support.

Are there other ideas to solve my problem?

edit:

with the help of fjxda I could install the gapps successfully now. But I still get a blue screen at booting. What can be the reason for this?
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
delete it - sorry!
[Fairphone 1] drcyber:
Stefan posted an interresting link in the FP-Forum, at least it shows that it is not completly impossible to have other Roms on FP

http://www.gizbeat.com/2336/cyanogenmod-for-mediatek-mtk6589t-china-phones-cyanogen-goes-commercial/

Gesendet von meinem Lenovo B6000-F mit Tapatalk
[Fairphone 1] joemier:
Greetings from Amsterdam 2014

Hello XDA,

I want to thank you all for the enthusiasm and interest in Fairphone these past weeks and months. Especially in these last weeks when the phones are finally in some Fairphone buyers' hands. It's great to see your thoughtful comments and questions during this exciting time!

I also want to apologize for the lack of communication by Fairphone (and myself) on this forum. As another user mentioned here - there was a time on the forum, when it became a bit like 'entering enemy territory' with some aggressive comments. I'm glad to see those have become more productive and positive.

You can imagine, we're still a startup (small group of people) and my position as Community Manager means I work on writing and editing our blog, a community newsletter, buyers' newsletter, social media, and new Fairphone forum, and it's just difficult to find the hours in the day to keep regular on your forum, as well. It's not an excuse but an explanation. I'm trying the best I can, and I'm sorry in the past weeks or months that some people on the XDA forum have been angry or disappointed by our lack of communication with you here.

Finally, I'm not a a developer, and we have to be honest here that a startup like ours at this time cannot offer some of the support you ask for. I'm sorry this may be a disappointment, but I want to reiterate this fact so that you understand I cannot be a regular/daily user on this forum. We are working towards finding a solution on our end in terms of capacity to give XDA more support, because we want to make sure we keep these lines between XDA and Fairphone strong going forward.

I hope that clears the air, and we can move forward to some productive work and fun. Thanks, all!

Joe

Fairphone Community Manager
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
Well... yeah... how would it have been answering some of these questions?

Ähm... I'm wondering if its just our "fault" that the tone becomes quite rough... Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember a time (let's say about more than 2 months) of absolute non-communication of our Community Manager... To be precisely: -> Kim's last post: 11th December 2013, 05:30 PM -> Joe's last post: 25th October 2013, 06:37 PM

Oh... of course I can imagine your hard work. But this lack of non-comunication, and failures (chipset,delivery) that have been answered with a lag of often more than a week (yes I know there where holidays) - or haven't been answered till now (bootloader), is hard to understand, if you are supporting a "social" company. So is it really strange, that some of us are a bit disappointed or frustrated?

Well... yeah... thats your decision...

Well ... doing "productive work and fun" is quite contrary to that you are announce to us in your sentences above... doing "some productive work and fun" needs some support too.

Again: I (and I think all the others too) am not your enemy, but to be productive, there is a lack of communication not very helpful.

_____________________

OK Joe...

Let's leave this step behind us and make your thought become true: "move forward to some productive work and fun"

So I repeat the question about the bootloader-sourcecode: Is it possible to make the source code of the bootloader public? Is the bootloader of the Fairphone open? Or if not, how can we get access to it/open it?

Regards,

Asmaron
[Fairphone 1] MoreThanADev:
Welcome back Joe !

and thanks for sharing some time with us during your weekend (you were already posting at 23:25 on your forum the other day :eek:)
[Fairphone 1] fjxda:
The bootloader is open.

I downloaded, modified an uploaded the boot.img and the phone did still boot, so it doesn't verify any signature of the boot image.

Hint: boot-image starts at /dev/bootimg

/dev/bootimg seems to point to a start address of internal memory but you can access the whole memory through it. So if you write something into, you can brick your whole phone and delete everything - probably.

The boot image is probably at most 0x600000 bytes large, afterwards recovery partition starts.

Command to retrieve the boot img:

dd if=/dev/bootimg of=/sdcard/boot.img bs=6291456 count=1

Tools to modifiy:

h ttps://github.com/bgcngm/mtk-tools

After repacking, the boot.img will be smaller (verify!).

Then you can copy with dd if=/sdcard/boot1.img of=/dev/boot.img - on your own risk, better wait till official firmware image becomes available.

DON'T use cat on /dev/bootimg! Use dd.

Don't write more than 6291456 bytes or your recovery will be lost.

May be good Idea to backup recovery with

dd if=/dev/recovery of=/sdcard/recovery.img bs=6291456 count=1

If using mtk-tools - use a unix filesystem to extract into so that executed-rights within the initramfs of the boot-img don't get lost.
[Fairphone 1] LuLeBe:
Hey,

thanks to benkxda who sent me the link to this thread, I found all the cool information you guys collected over the past few months.

Someone already posted the link to my port of the fairphone launcher to all 4.1+ phones, my first work for the fairphone community available on Google Play.

Unfortunately I don't have a Fairphone myself (just hadn't had the 330€ by that time cause I just got myself another phone and now they're all sold), so I'll wait for the next Fairphones and buy one of them.

However I still really want to help the community whereever I can because this phone seems to be really amazing, especially because of the fair aspect of it. Benchmarks and battery life seem to be pretty average form what I heard (and read in this thread), but it's still fast enough and above all, being super fast has never been it's goal.

For everyone who would like to try it out, here's my fairphone launcher on Google Play (don't have enough xda posts for real links):

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.lulebe.fairphone.launcher

Some Chinese guy wrote a review saying it's not working on whatever 4.1 stuff (google translate says "Android 4.1 does not take not take"), but it runs fine on my 4.1 nexus7 and my cm10.1 phone, so it might be some issue with chinese language. I'll check that tomorrow.
[Fairphone 1] K_W:
Hey everyone,

I've also ordered a Fairphone but it will probably take some time until it arrives...

A few months ago, I sent an email to the Fairphone Customer Support asking if the FP would feature USB On-The-Go.

Unfortunately, they didn't know and also didn't update the technical specifications regarding that until now.

So it would be great if anyone of you who already has a FP could give it a try.

Thank you,

K_W
[Fairphone 1] joemier:
Open Source Update

Fairphone has recently posted an update to its forum and Support Center with progress on open source and software development. The forum can be found here (https://fairphone.zendesk.com/hc/communities/public/topics).

I think it speaks many times directly to the contributions and interests of XDA developer community, so I want to share it with you here.

Originally posted on 2 January:

As you know we are keen on opening up the software as much as possible to breathe more life in our devices, and provide a space for an active developer community.

The software development for the first release of the Fairphone OS was completed about mid-December, just in time for flashing software during mass production. We are currently having our ODM, Changhong, prepare the kernel sources for release. This should take a few days and then made available quickly, and should include all the open source code. Please note that it will probably be a few iterations before we get everything that we can easily release, as this is not a common practice with Chinese ODMs and it is the first time that Changhong will be doing so (a difficult task to carry out, which we’re quite proud of!). If you believe there is something missing, please inform us and we’ll chase it down.

We are also in discussions with Mediatek, the chipset supplier, to see if we could enter into a more involved model or direct licensing agreement whereby we could do more development independently of our ODM, who is currently the sole full Mediatek licensee.

Mediatek is the developer and owner of a lot of proprietary code and other intellectual property that is part of the software running of the phone, as they build the software that is running on their specific chips. For example, they prepare a base version of Android that runs on a particular platform, and then distribute it to ODMs and OEMs so that they can build on top of it and customize it for their specific needs and phone designs.

It is important to note that Mediatek is not reluctant to support parties like us, and they clearly see the growing demand of European OEMs and brands using Chinese ODMs to be able to do additional development and support. However, they are on a high-growth curve and are currently resourced-constraint, in addition that their European support team is currently being built. They cannot potentially support everyone that comes around knocking, as the staff needed to provide that support is simply not available. Or already extremely busy with their next generation platforms, which they need to deliver in order to continue executing their long-term plans.

All that being said, you can see there’s a lot of work still to be done. We’re confident with the support and passion of the open source community, we can continue to make progress on this important issue. And of course - We need you! Thanks for following our story and for your interest as we go forward together.

The Fairphone Team
[Fairphone 1] benkxda:
Hi Joe. It's good that you're talking with us again. It's not perfect, cause you cannot offer some support, whatever that means. I don't expect that you are daily on XDA, but at least once or twice a weak would be nice. I know, it takes a lot of time to read all the stuff, not only on XDA. You have to take a lot on Facebook, Twitter, the Fairphone blog and forum. So sometimes you read complains three, four times or even more often.

But think about us, as well. We were waiting and waiting and no answer, no information, not even a "we currently figure out" or "we cannot confirm"... nothing. This is a behaviour what I expect from (sorry, it's again) Samsung, not from a new social and fair project. There is much potential for improvement but I am sure you want to improve. A lot of people are waiting for a Fairphone 2 or the first Fairtablet (Fairpad/Fairtab, whatever).

Keep in mind, that you have to invest a lot of time for your work. Keep also in mind, that no one here at XDA is getting paid from Fairphone for his/her work. In my case, it currently costs a lot of time. This is a free resource with a lot of smart people, with a lot of ideas and some new nice code. We can improve the Fairphone and you can take advantage, use the suggestions, reviews, ideas and the code for the current device and for the next devices.

Our goal is good for Fairphone. We want to get the best out of this device, some custom ROMs including alternative operating systems, a bunch of kernels and other modifications. This is not, because everyone of us bought a Fairphone, but we like the idea.

Joe, stay with us. Stay honest, sincere, transparent and keep on with a constructive communication. Together we can make the project quite a bit better.

To everyone who wants to talk directly to Joe, please use the mentioning system built in XDA to make it easier for Joe. If you use a @ right before a username you mention him, example: [MENTION=5382171]joemier[/MENTION]. It's like calling him, because he gets a separate E-mail notifying him, that he was mentioned. Then he knows, there is something especially for him to be read and he has not to read through every single post.

Very good, will add this to the OP somewhere, maybe a new section... hopefully we get an own forum for this device, but this would be a small sub-community. However, thanks again, good work.

Can somebody confirm this solution, please?

Hi LuLeBe. No problem, nice to have you here. I will link your Fairphone Launcher in the OP as well. For testing an app before you get bad ratings at Google Play, visit our app testing thread: [INDEX] App Tester - Developers, here are your app testers! and of course if you need any translation, ask the guys in [INDEX] App Translators - Developers, we translate your apps!. If you have any questions, send me a PM or post it in the threads.
[Fairphone 1] asmaron:
While waiting for getting a mail-confirmation for sending my device - some funny stuff over there (again German... don't know why!) ;):

(newest edition of LTB Walt Disney Nr. 449)

And:

[YOUTUBE]jJm3tQTFnHU[/YOUTUBE]

Nice promotion! ;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kled54:
It seems like the latest Google maps 7.0.1 locked the "location reporting" and the "location history" settings in my region (lebanon) . now both options are greyed out. so it's like google didn't only kill Latitude, but also killed the "location sharing" option in many parts of the world too. and now when i open locations in google+ i only see people that have previous versions of "google maps" installed.

Any workaround to enable these 2 options back again?? or is it a bug in the new maps??
[Galaxy S I9000 General] a1shakes:
The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)

I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.

At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.

If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.

P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one ;) .

EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] Acedia:
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.

Sent from my GT-I9000 using cm10.1
[Galaxy S I9000 General] mrjraider:
Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kogli:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS. :)

And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?

Odesláno z mého GT-I9000 pomocí Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Galaxy S I9000 General] alb3rtt:
Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
[Galaxy S I9000 General] kogli:
Too expensive xDD

Odesláno z mého GT-I9000 pomocí Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Galaxy S I9000 General] a1shakes:
Try Greenify

Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.

But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.

If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now :p .