yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR HD General] jerrmo:
took the plunge

rooted

unlocked

voodoo root bkup

temp unroot

unfroze bloat ware

took update (9.18.79)

upgrade success

restore root

su status verified

HA!

droid hd maxx

:cool:
[RAZR HD General] BroChaos:
can anyone post the latest radios / modems for the razr hd for verizon/usa?
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
Stock bootloader?
[RAZR HD General] jerrmo:
stock.
[RAZR HD General] haoyong:
I can confirm that this process worked for me, as well.

"rooted

unlocked

voodoo root bkup

temp unroot

unfroze bloat ware

took update (9.18.79)

upgrade success

restore root

su status verified"

Razr HD, unlocked with Moto-Pocalypse.
[RAZR HD General] Mr-Glass:
Was this with stock recovery? or CWM/TWRP
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
Thanks JungleKing. I have never used safestrap to load another ROM so I should be OK. However, not sure the best way to uninstall and get back to stock recovery. Any pointers on that? I saw someone mentioned the Razr 1.21 Utility and use option 2 to install/flash stock recovery but thought I would ask here as well.

The main thing is I am not sure I want to go to unlocked bootloader so I could return the phone under insurance if needed (work pays for insurance so it is worth it for me :) ). However, if there is a good chance root will be lost then I may end up going that route. I have a razr m (my son) as well so might try it on his phone first... thanks for any further thoughts.

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Thought I would ask the question straight up:

- Has anyone taken the OTA on a rooted, stock Razr HD, with LOCKED bootloader and successfully retained root and installed the OTA?

If yes, what were your steps?

Just looking for true successes with same setup as above, not looking for "it should or it may work" as there is a lot of that already out there. I just haven't been able to confirm that the above setup works and that is what I am after.

Thanks!
[RAZR HD General] sloosecannon:
Insurance shouldn't care about unlock or root...
[RAZR HD General] larsdennert:
...and rooting is just as warranty voiding as BL unlocking. Remember, Moto phones have a root fuse that blows and will always show in recovery that it is/was rooted.
[RAZR HD General] :
No. Its a qFuse and it is blown when you unlock the bootloader, not when you root.
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
Hmm - I always thought you could undo root and go back to stock for warranty. Sounds like maybe that is not the case for Moto? I read about the fuse for the bootloader, but didn't realize or see it included one for root as well???

EDIT - OK thanks mentose457: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43850296&postcount=92

Seemed like so many folks mentioned not wanting to unlock due to warranty/insurance that it was the case.

I have used insurance once and in that case received the new (or refurb) phone in mail with instructions to send broken one back. Does insurance (for VZW they just moved to new insurance which bills you separately not on VZW bill - so maybe that is even better) not care one way or the other as mentioned above?

I care more about insurance claim vs. warranty so if my current situation would be the same as if I unlocked, I'll unlock right away :)
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
I would have to read something from Asurion saying they don't care to feel comfortable. Folks say they shouldn't care but I don't think Moto should care either.
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
The new insurance I went with is from GRIP Cellular. The VZW rep said it was better than Asurian since it covered water damage but cost the same. I just reviewed their Ts&Cs and it has the normal language stating it won't cover any damage due to things you did that went against the allowed usage of the device (i.e. essentially saying if damaged from doing something the Moto agreement doesn't allow they won't cover either). However, it is broad enough to me that the damage would have to be caused by whatever you did (i.e. rooting, unlocking bootloader, etc) and most likely that would not be the case (i.e. dropping in water)).

So I would say keeping locked is only safe bet, but insurance might be OK as long as you didn't just say your phone was bricked and it could have been caused by rooting, etc.

I am just hoping to get confirmation that updating with locked bootloader can work as long as you take precautions (i.e. get back to stock recovery, unfreeze everything, save root with voodoo, and temp unroot prior to taking OTA)... I can't lose root :). Guess I'll look to block OTA updates moving forward if I can't get some feedback this will work....my phone works pretty damn good now, but was hoping the new radio would be good update (and possibly some help with battery - although mine is still better than any other I have had).
[RAZR HD General] sloosecannon:
They don't - unless their policies have changed since a couple years ago when I had to send my D2 back for battery problems... The VZW guy noticed it was rooted and told us to send it to insurance instead of warranty and it worked fine - I sent it in with CM9 and all and got a new one back
[RAZR HD General] kry0:
Does this work on a locked bootloader?
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
I will have to call Asurion. I specifically got it in case water damage!
[RAZR HD General] doctorwho2:
Update 9.18.79 failed

Hello- Baseband version is VANQUISH_BP_100730.081.64.09P

Build number is 9.8.1Q-62_VQW_MR_2

System version is 9.16.6.XT926.Verizon.en.US.

My phone is rooted & I unrooted using Voodoo. I froze Safestrap with Root Uninstaller Pro, and the phone boots normally with no Safestrap prompt.

I did a factory reset, but the OTA update to 9.18.79 failed.

I also tried the Batakang tool to wipe the phone http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2307439

...but the terminal window on my PC said:

'fastboot' is not recognized as in internal or external command, operable program, or batch file'

I tried unlocking the bootloader, but none of the options in the Batakang tool worked, and all of them resulted in the above error message.

Voodoo lets me restore root, but the update always fails. I have checked the baseband number for the new radio, but it remains VANQUISH_BP_100730.081.64.09P.

Suggestions???
[RAZR HD General] JungleKing76:
If you only installed Safestrap but never activated the safe side then your preinstall folder should be untouched. The easiest way to remove safestrap is to just open the app from your app drawer and click remove. Its as simple as that and you are back to stock recovery. Just to be clear. Don't uninstall the app from your phone until you have opened it and clicked remove!

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2

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For safestrap, i don't know if freezing it really is enough. I could be wrong on that but I would start by unfreezing it, then open the app itself and choosing the remove option.

Of course, if you ever used the safe side to install a ROM, your preinstall folder has been modified so none of this will matter, the update will fail.

Fastboot using the HD utility would be your only option. Now as to why that is giving you problems, I have no idea.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
When I open Safestrap app it gives me 2 options: Install Recovery and Uninstall Recovery. When you say remove above, do you mean uninstall recovery? There is no remove option. And to confirm it does say "Safe System: Not Active" so that should confirm I never touched the other ROM slots, have only been stock entire time.

Thanks again.
[RAZR HD General] larsdennert:
Dial ##program from the dialer. enter 000000 then scroll to the bottom.
[RAZR HD General] JungleKing76:
Yes, just click uninstall recovery. That will return your phone to stock recovery. Uninstalling it that way, from in the app makes sure it is off. It was just important that you do that first instead of just uninstalling the app l8r other apps.

But, when it says not active it knotty means you are currently not in the safe side but that doesn't confirm if you every did. Only you will know that for sure.

If you want to make sure, go into a root file browser and look for the perinatal folder. If there are only a couple of files in there you should be good.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[RAZR HD General] :
Flash back to ICS, take the OTA to JB, rooted status gone.

Id also like to point out that i sent in my sisters rooted then unrooted phone for warranty work and they had no problem with it.

Also I would love to hear about the fuse that pops when you root. Ive done plenty of Googling but have yet to see an article saying rooting has anything to do with a fuse.
[RAZR HD General] Jhall8:
Asurion replaced our daughter's phone a few months ago after it fell into a bucket of water at her work. VZW reps often provide wrong information.
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
My son screwed up and click OK to download update. It has not installed yet only downloaded. However it appears root is gone and safestrap recovery doesn't load. Do you think I can reroot and try to unlock as well as last resort before losing root forever? If update isn't truly installed I am betting it just downloaded a file or 2 and possibly effects root temporarily making me hope I could still root and I'll unlock as well.

Strange the download had this effect though.
[RAZR HD General] jerrmo:
check

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Uh, downloading will not remove root.

I think you may have an updated phone, go to settings/about phone and check system version to see if the update was processed, you will see either 9.18.... or 9.20....
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
As requested about the qfuse...right from the mans mouth who made the exploit: http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html

"If the QFuse with identifier 0x84, which is mapped to physical address 0x700438, hasn't been blown, the status is returned as "locked". It turns out this is the QFuse we're looking for, since blowing it will result in unlocking the bootloader!"
[RAZR HD General] :
I am aware of the QFuse. Everyone and their dog and even the dogs fleas know of the QFuse. See my own quote above. Im referring to the mythical moto root fuse mentioned by our own [MENTION=722843]larsdennert[/MENTION].
[RAZR HD General] JungleKing76:
This confirms the blown fuse with unlocking but not rooting.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
I am not sure of a root fuse..I do know the phone has a counter to detect if root has been applied or not but where it stores it people seem to differ.
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
I thought earlier you were talking about the qfuse..you are right...everyone and their dog knows about it which was why i was surprised that you didnt...ty for clearing it up.
[RAZR HD General] larsdennert:
When you root and modify the system partition, qe logs it and the bootloader remembers it. Where did I say it was a QFuse? My point is there are people who have had their warranty voided after tripping it via root. Not mythical. Just something to watch for if you think your warranty is safe to root but not to unlock the BL.
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
Well, it said "download complete, with 2 options, install now or install later". I choose install later and turned off phone. Looking at about phone (by the way this is Razr M, not HD) it lists: 98.15.66.xt907.verizon.en.us for system version, and, 9.8.1q-66 for build number.

Looks like razr m update is 98.18.78 from other forums.... I don't get it either. Not sure how root could be lost at this point.... The root method and unlock method is same for M and HD so anyone think I should try all that now and hope for the best?

UPDATE: I went ahead and just rerooted with motochopper and unlocked as well. So I should be good now. not sure why the download messed with root, or maybe it was something else, but either way I should be OK.
[RAZR HD General] jfriend33:
Guys I am going to tell you something about asurion. As long as you don't file excessive complaints, and if your phone is able to turn on and you un root it, locked boot loader or not, or if your device was damaged and you're filing a legit claim, they do not care.

Now if you are dealing with Verizon that is another story.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[RAZR HD General] :
Please read through the thread. I never said you said it was a QFuse. You wrote that it was a root fuse. See below.
[RAZR HD General] jerrmo:
hmmmm, I, personally, think something else beyond the download unrooted your phone, but looks like motochopper rerooted the thing. That's good news! Get VooDoo to protect root!
[RAZR HD General] JungleKing76:
Update for those who lost root. Over on droidrzr.com they figured it out. They even made a utility to do it all for you. Now you can get root back on the new ota.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[RAZR HD General] :
Good news for the poor sacks that messed up and took the update as well as those that buy the phone with the update pre-installed.
[RAZR HD General] rightjb:
Thanks to the pioneers...

Thanks so much to everyone. I put off the update for days and without this post would have been sunk. Used the above and everything including radio updated perfectly.
[RAZR HD General] jpetrach:
Thanks
[RAZR HD General] joelbon:
THANK YOU

I now have root again. I am one happy camper. Thanks again. this is awesome!
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
I don't have that file on my Razr HD. Never recall deleting it (and I would usually rename and not delete if instructions told me to delete). I was stock ROM, Safestrap installed, and rooted. I then decided to unlock bootloader to ensure OTA doesn't screw my phone up and lose root. I am confirmed unlocked, I removed SS, and installed TWRP instead. I made an nandroid TWRP backup, root is still good, etc. I then came back to this thread to look into applying OTA and noticed I need to have stock recovery. I downloaded one from here: http://50.23.216.69/showpost.php?p=43702791&postcount=4

I used fastboot to flash the stock recovery and tested it and it worked (i.e. reboot into recovery via Quick Boot app), see dead android, do vol down and vol up to get to stock recovery menu.

I still don't have the install-recovery.sh file in /system/etc directory (and ES File Explorer has root permissions, R/W is set and I have all files being shown (I am not hiding any files)). I went ahead and tried to apply the OTA update though (defrosted all bloatware, Voodoo saved root, temp un-root, downloaded OTA and installed). It looked like it went fine, rebooted, showed green android with blue symbol in belly while it was working, then rebooted up to system just fine - however, then popup said update failed and I see my OS and Radio are still the old version.

Could the issue be this filing is missing, even though I have what appears to be a working stock recovery? Anyone able to share their install-recovery.sh file? I do have my son's Razr M and his has that file (with .bak filename now) but not sure if that will work or not. Anyone know if it will?

Any other thoughts are welcome.
[RAZR HD General] surfmly:
Thought I would share that I was able to get updated finally. I posted this over on droidforums as well but wanted to share here in case it helped others (as I know I was getting help from both places as well).

To review for others here are steps I took:

- I was on stock ROM, rooted, Safestrap, RAZR HD

- Unlocked bootloader

- Never had any other ROMs in slots for SS so uninstalled recovery and uninstalled SS app

- (optional) I updated logo on boot to get back to stock Red/white M vs. unlocked warning text

- Used Matt's DROID RAZR Utility to flash stock recovery

- Defrosted all apps

- Downloaded OTA, but did not install

- Using ES File Explorer, I cut and pasted the blur_version.....zip file from /cache to root of my external SD (this was the OTA download)

- Backed up root via Voodoo, temp unrooted, then rebooted into recovery via Quick Boot app (upon dead Andy, hold Vol down and then tap Vol up (while Vol Down is still being pressed) and stock recovery menu appears)

- Selected install from external SD, found the blur_version.....zip file and selected it

- It went through install

- If no errors you may be good here. If there are some fix as best you can.

- Once rebooted if you find your OS was updated but not the radio then do following....

- Go to KaChow's other thread: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/ra...adio-flash-vanquish_bp_100730-160-64-15p.html and follow instructions to install radio update.

- All is well....
[RAZR HD General] EchoTrain:
I am knew to all of this and i'm hoping someone could give me step by step instructions on how to update my phone. Here's my phone info:

-DROID RAZR HD, XT926

-Android version 4.1.2

-kernel: 3.0.31-ge491d6d

-rooted

-stock ROM

-locked bootloader

The apps I use with root permission are SuperUser, Android Tuner, Titanium Backup, and ES File Explorer.

The OTA has been downloaded but not installed, obviously. So if someone could give me the steps to take, and any additional apps I'll need to make it happen, I would greatly appreciate it! Again, I'm a noob and need some help. :)

Thanks!
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
Is your bootloader unlocked? If not u may wish to unlock first. There will never be another chance once you update
[RAZR HD General] big ach:
So, it seems I am unable to update because there is a value messed up in my build.prop I'm not sure what it should be but that's the error I keep getting. I'm guessing its because I supercharged v6 and then unsupercharged.

My question: can I just replace my build.prop with a stock build.prop? Or would that just brick my phone?

I'm running a rooted stock rom with a locked bootloader.
[RAZR HD General] HoochieCoo:
I was rooted, with unlocked bootloader and TWRP. I also had mods to my build.prop.

To get back to stock and get the update, I:

Restored 4.1.2 backup

Restored backup of build.prop

Flashed the stock recovery

Temp Un-root

Applied update

Restored root

I didn't unfreeze any apps. Everything went fine. I have the latest version, including the latest radio. Still have root.
[RAZR HD General] doctorwho2:
Went to droidrzr.com

Took the OTA & it worked, but I could't find the root utility on droidrzr.com.

Could you please post the link?
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?/topic/23729-[RSD-Scripts]-SamuriHL's-RAZR-HD-Emporium#entry320604
[RAZR HD General] kbatrph:
That's why I get my phones (and protection plan) thru Best Buy...don't have ti deal with Verizon's b.s.
[RAZR HD General] themagicm:
I have an update ready to install.. my current version is a rooted Razr MAXX HD 9.16.9.xt926... the update is 9.20.1.. will I lose root if I do the update?

thanks in advance..
[RAZR HD General] recDNA:
Yes, unless you go through the proper steps first involving voodoo rootkeeper. I don't remember the correct sequences so look around until you find it. If you just take the update without following the right instructions first it will be hard to get root back. Also, if you haven't unlocked bootloader you must do so before update or you will lose the chance forever.
[RAZR HD General] JungleKing76:
Download ota root keeper from market.

Open app and select protect root.

Then after it is finished select temp un root.

Now it is safe to install the update.

After phone updates and reboots open root keeper app and select restore root.

Sent from my Droid Razr HD using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[RAZR HD General] gpflepsen:
Thanks! This worked just as you wrote.
[RAZR HD General] strike3:
I restored stock recovery and stock 4.1.2 prior to trying to install this update. I don't care about root at this point.

It went through the process of installing, Green Android icon and all. After booting to the home screen, all seemed well but there was a notification saying that Update Failed.

Any ideas?
[RAZR HD General] jfriend33:
Getting lots of Google services framework has stopped messages. Phone is also running more slowly than it did before the update. I think I'm going to factory reset and slowly add apps instead of resorting to crack flashing roms all the time.

I think it's funny how my phone is noticeably slowing down right before the droid maxx is released.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[RAZR HD General] bradleyem:
My phone was quite responsive, good battery life, overall very good after the update. Phone signal seemed a little better. Didn't fix the SLOOOW GPS update rate...using car home the GPS lag on the speed display is several seconds sometimes.

But, starting yesterday, my phone started getting REALLY laggy, then today I was driving for 3 hours and only had car home, navigation, and Spotify running (music downloaded to phone, not streaming) and it kept totally freezing...music stopping or skipping like an old record...never had that happen before. I had good 4g signal the whole time, and closing apps didn't help. Rebooting has helped for now. Funny you mention that the older phones seem to slow down when the new ones come out...lol
[RAZR HD General] Orphee:
Hi, could somone upload SmartActions files from this ROM ?

It seems there are "updated", I don't know if it is the same as the update from the playstore.

I would like to test it (XT925)

/system/app/SmartActions.apk

/system/app/SmartActions.odex

/system/app/SmartActionFW.apk

/system/app/SmartActionFW.odex

/system/app/SmartActionMFW.apk

/system/app/SmartActionMFW.odex

Thank you :)
[RAZR HD General] dfa7:
I have a NIB RAZR MAXX HD - S/W: 9.16.9 XT926 waiting to activate, Unlock, Root, Temp-Unroot, take the OTA S/W update and Restore Root..

My question is in reference to the 2 recent quotes above. Did both of you do OTA with custom roms or straight stock phones after unlock, root and temp unroot?
[RAZR HD General] bradleyem:
Mine was completely stock except for unlocked BL and temp unroot. I had a custom recovery installed and the update failed, so I used RSD Lite to flash back to 4.1.2. I was already unlocked, so I rooted, protected root with Voodo, temp unrooted, then installed the update. This was all before I even set up the phone or installed any apps, so it was like updating a virgin phone.
[RAZR HD General] dfa7:
Thx for reply - Not a dev by any stretch, but I'm wondering if ur custom recovery had anything to do with the 1st OTA attempt failed update...could that be possible?
[RAZR HD General] bradleyem:
Yep, that was exactly the reason that it failed.
[RAZR HD General] dfa7:
Hmmm...ok. And so is the phone still F'd up and laggy since the S/W update?
[RAZR HD General] bradleyem:
It was a little laggy before the update, I think mainly because of the radio and poor reception. After the update it got much better (I've had it updated for around a month). Then all off a sudden two days ago it got really laggy and yesterday it was freezing frequently.
[RAZR HD General] dfa7:
I think you might want to take a close look at any apps you may have installed w/in last month or since update. I'm holding off on activating this MAXX HD. Currently using DNA, but will weigh in after I unlock, root, temp unroot and update. Thx for the feedback
[RAZR HD General] jfriend33:
My phone is stock firmware, unlocked and rooted, then used root keeper and updated.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[RAZR HD General] dfa7:
And you're also having issues as well since s/w update?
[RAZR HD General] jfriend33:
Yep. Lots of Google services has stopped messages. And the text message notification is still buggy. Also ram usage is running a little higher than usual. And there's these extra things running that weren't before the update.

It's just really strange. Some days the phone runs fine. I should mention the Google services has stopped messages happen when using navigation.

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD