yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android General] Revthejedi:
4.3 inch screen + dual core + optimization + customization = hit
[Android General] alex94kumar:
This this this

Also everyone, don't forget about the large array of sensors this device will have
[Android General] ptr347:
i've calculated dimensions of the phone thanks to 2 photos : http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/large/5434fd39jw1e6isnl7ev6j218g0xc40r.jpg

http://www.ifeed.fr/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Motorola-x-phone.jpg

with the first photo i get thanks to the known jack size (3.5mm) that the phone width is of 64 mm

thank's to the second i get that the phone height is of 127 mm (5")

and the screen of 4.7" (2.52")

That's sooo compact (1mm larger than a nexus s in width)

sorry for my poor english, there are probably some grammar problems i'm french.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
You sir win 9001 internets!

4.7 inch, I think, would be a perfect size for a phone of this nature. Even though it's 720p, it will still be a great screen in my opinion
[Android General] Dregur:
Does anyone else think that Motorola/Google is absolutely trolling the internet right now? I'm wondering if they can trick the CPU identifer to think the CPU is something else.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
lol, even though that's probably not likely, that would be funny as hell
[Android General] ptr347:
yeah i thought the best was 4.3" but with that size i prefer a 4.7" of course :)

1080p is beautiful but useless. that's beautiful and a bit better, but nothing more i prefer a less expensive phone than an expensive 1080p phone
[Android General] alex94kumar:
Hell, ill take ANYTHING over the qHD screen on my Droid 4. Its absolutely horrendous; washed out colors, dim in sunlight, awful. I've wanted an amoled for years. And 1080p---even if its amoled---will eat the battery compared to a 720p screen.

>inb4 downsides of amoled

I already know them, but its the best option compared to qHD :D
[Android General] alex94kumar:
Everyone, check out the OP! Added pictures PROVING the Moto X has a 4.7 inch screen!
[Android General] ptr347:
Believe me that i'm not a liar please i calculted that on the 13rd and share it on xda today : http://forum.frandroid.com/topic/131405-motorola-moto-x-ou-x-phone-maj-du-15072013/page__st__140
[Android General] alex94kumar:
Oh, I believe you 100%! I just found the pictures on droid-life.com and put them in the OP for people to see. Because some people don't always read all the comments

[MENTION=4513030]ptr347[/MENTION], link this thread again on that forum and mention I have the pictures to prove it
[Android General] ptr347:
yeah will do it thanks !
[Android General] alex94kumar:
It will give you some awesome bragging rights, since you successfully calculated the screen size using a headphone jack :D
[Android General] ptr347:
xD I don't know myself that it was possible, i wasn't perfectly sure (ive done this with a ruler and a calculator over my computer screen, don't repeat that :p )
[Android General] matt9294:
This is the most excited I've been for a new device for a while. Can someone explain the sensors aspect of it though? I know it's supposed to know where and what you're doing (ex. when you're driving, it'll automatically go on speaker phone), but in terms of sensors, what type of sensor is it going to have that phones don't have?
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I'm not sure what it has compared to other phones, but if you refer to the OP (http://i.imgur.com/ogYw0k7.png and http://i.imgur.com/rlaQIwW.png), just imagine what the phone can do in terms of automation with these sensors
[Android General] matt9294:
Sorry about that, I was on my phone and they didn't show up. That just boosted my excitement even more.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I mean, what in god's name would a smartphone do with a gravity sensor? I didn't even know that existed! lolololol
[Android General] SeanPlunk:
What do we know about the screen? Is it pentile matrix? The only non-pentile matrix 720p+ screen I know of is the one on the Note II.

The screen shots look great, doesn't look pentile to me? An RGB 720p screen would be slick.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I can't answer that question, but one can only hope
[Android General] Exnor:
I was expecting a Nexus phone, since Motorola is now a Google company...
[Android General] Joey121215:
Software optimizations don't mean anything and neither do benchmarks. It's way to easy to trick a benchmark into thinking it's performing higher than it is. Just Google this fact, several developers have proven this. And I'd rather have a screen that drains a little battery than have to look at pixels on my phone. And don't tell me you can't see them, because my phone is 720p and 4.7" and I can see pixelization.
[Android General] neluba:
Ok, I think I need glasses then, 'cause I can't spot any pixels on my nexus 4 without a lens :-/

720p is absolutely ok, and the gpu prefers it as well
[Android General] alex94kumar:
Exactly, I think the screen on the Moto X is going to be just fine
[Android General] murthag11:
Vimeo video deleted

Hey the Video of Update 2, the One with the bootanimation and the Benchmark was deleted from vimeo. Did someone download it somehow? Cant find it in the Web anymore..

edit: Ah sorry i was wrong, the other video was deleted whitch you still find on youtube. phew^^
[Android General] alex94kumar:
A redditor asked me this today:

"Do you think both those phones are better than the One and the S4?

Unless you're just comparing the phones they'll be talking about at the event. If that's the case, just ignore me."

What do you guys say about that?
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I'll find it

[YOUTUBE]5od8fBK2biA[/YOUTUBE]
[Android General] alex94kumar:
also I updated all the links in the OP, since it seems some of them were deleted
[Android General] Notorious544d:
I am SO excited about this phone!

If the measurements really are true, a 4.7" screen with dimensions of 127mm x 64mm? That is insane!!

And custom build hardware (really wish this is true)? :good:
[Android General] alex94kumar:
Yeah, the bezel on the device is insanely thin! Just imagine this device on Extended mode, where the device is on full screen (navigation bar is hidden)! Lots of custom ROMs offer this feature

And I just hope for updates at a Nexus-like speed; I don't want another disaster like the Galaxy Neuxs on Verizon in terms of updates =/
[Android General] acey_zero:
Unfortunately there is one spec which CPU-Z does not seem to report, which is whether or not the device has a microSD slot (I tested it with my Note II, and it does not say anything about it even if I have a card inserted).

This is a make or break issue for me. I am really hoping it has one as I really like most everything else I am hearing about this device.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I do not think the X will have a Micro SD slot. Google is going to want you to reallocate your files into cloud storage.

I just hope they'll offer a 32gb version
[Android General] Born_Bad:
why are you so sure of 4.7"? isn't the ruler clearly showing 4.5"?

it may be even a bit less.
[Android General] bbedward:
Ruler doesn't seem to include the on-screen buttons.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
4.7 with the end of the nav bar, which we will eventually make disappear on custom roms
[Android General] joshm.1219:
you must be in the mlb then. you would have to have 20/15 vision while holding the phone 6 inches from your face to see pixelation on a 4.7 inch screen with literally about a million pixels on it. Maybe you could see it then?
[Android General] bbrad:
The cpuz pics is clearly fake common guys first of all why wouldn't it be released on android 4.3 why would they release it on 4.2.2 when 4.3 is already being leaked. And this phone is suppose to be there flagship 2 cores really? Most phones at least have 4 now some even 8. If that's there flagship specs wow.
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I don't mean to insult, but you sir are an idiot
[Android General] murthag11:
unreveald features

Thats right.

To the original topic: Man im so exited! Even while there are many leak about the device now there's still some thins unknown.

"This week in Google (207) Leo Laporte makes an interesting statement. Leo Laporte: "The Moto X has features no one has revealed yet". He didn’t said much more, because of his a non-disclosure agreement"

ht tp://forums.androidcentral.com/moto-x/297859-moto-x-has-features-no-one-has-revealed-yet.html (mind the gap! Sorry i'm not allowed to post hyperlinks yet)

What could it be? Are there still some people who think that the motorola logo on the back is more than we know? Or something completely different?
[Android General] alex94kumar:
I don't know, but it really is getting me excited about this phone

I've chosen this over the Droid Maxx
[Android General] youdug:
Theres a whole slew of devices that already and are going to sht on this.

Almost comparing to the 600 and youre all excited about that?

Theres about to be the htc one maxx, lg g2, sammy note 3, new s4, sony honami, oppo find 7, lenovo x910 and hp brave all with the 800 and with wayyyy better specs than this all dropping in the fall or shortly after.

The only things about this phone that are remotely appealing is a possible extremely low price and the camera.

If they dont drop this for less than 200 unlocked they might as well just stop production right now.

Look at it from a typical stupid consumers pov:

The screen is small with less p's so its not going to be pretty. Has less gilgahurtz so its slow. And its not an apple or samsung.

This phone will be a billion dollar flop.

Edit: "ok moto magic".... Foh... They really want people to say that without being paid?
[Android General] phakkhom999:
good smart phone
[Android General] phositadc:
Do we have any estimates on thickness or weight yet?

Sent from my GT-I9192
[Android General] kthz:
LG G2 / Nexus 5 / Megalodon or Armageddonwhatever will be the real deal i hope :)
[Android General] Zandeer:
Personally I am intd to find out all the details of this phone.

Speculation is speculation. Finding out the facts in 9 days.

I am currently rocking the Sensation, and am looking forward to getting an LTE phone without the hard 14.4 mbps cap.

Most important thing to me, will it have google direct updating.
[Android General] crazy4creationstudios:
Thanks!

Thanks for the post, I didn't know of all the sensors. I'm glad it has a temp. sensor. I also like that you can change the keyword for "Open Mic" as I don't like having to say"Okay, Moto Magic" it sounds fruity and expisitional, haha.
[Android General] :
Hmmmm..

---------- Post added at 03:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:12 PM ----------

I'm almost certain those are placeholders for CPU spec. I'm also almost certain this is the X8 chip that is used on new Droids. This could be a highly modified S4 plus that is part of the X8 platform. There are a few reason why I think there are some issues with ID.

1. S4 plus does not support ac WiFi .

2. The GPU is different. (CPU would be a T variant to have the 320 GPU)

3. This benchmarks higher than a Plus chip should.

So I believed this is a X8 CPU with the modified S4 Plus as the CPU portion.
[Android General] Justinchi:
I'm really loving Googorola's philosophy behind this phone. It's putting the power to choose back into the hands of the consumer. We, the people, should not have to spend a bunch to get a device with a great user experience. They're breaking carrier barriers, design barriers, price barriers (presumably), performance barriers, and more.

This device is gonna fail to live up to many people expectations because Google is about doing the unexpected.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hawaiianmofo:
Hey guys

Just wondering, how would I go about upgrading my samsumg S i9000, currently on gingerbread, to jelly bean?

I've read some tutorials and such, and they ramble on about 'ROMs'. Are these legit Jelly Bean firmwares or are they mimic version? (by mimic version, I mean did they just make their own like-a-version of JB)

What are the risks in doing it?

And what are the advantages in doing it?

What is the battery life in comparison?

Will I be able to revert back to GB if JB is too hardcore for me?

I have also read that once rooted, I may need to backup everytime an app is installed (Something along these lines) and that rooting should only be done if you are computer-pro.

So, if I installed JB and really liked it, would I be able to 'unroot' it so that it is almost like factory settings but with JB?

Cheers fellas

(Sorry about all of the questions)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soryuu:
Hey there,

So. All of your questions shall be answered :D

ROMs

The Galaxy S I9000 only received an official 2.3.6. So every Jelly Bean firmware you see in these forums aren't legitimate stock Samsung roms, more rather custom ones compiled from Google's code source. It is proper Jelly Bean, but not from Samsung- more rather adapted and custom-built for the Galaxy S. (I'm not quite sure the wording's right, but it makes more sense in my head, so I apologise in advance if this confuses you)

Risks:

-Bricking. There are quite a few problems that cac occur, but that's if something goes catastrophically wrong. Most problems are easily fixed, hard-bricking- which only really occurs if you flash a file made for a completely different device- is rare. Sticking to the tutorials means you won't run into many problems.

Advantages

-Speed. Many of these custom roms are optimised to maximise the speed and performance of the single-core in the I9000.

-Features. So many new features come with upgrading to Jelly Bean. Google Now, expandable notifications, lockscreen widgets are just a few of many.

-Customisation. Themes, apps, mods, you name it, there's a whole swathe of them.

Battery life

-JB relies on hardware acceleration to be buttery smooth. Pushing 60fps animations on a single-core processor, as well as other processes, do take a toll on the battery. On JB roms you'll probably notice a drop in battery life- provided you don't make any changes. There are many things you can do to improve your battery life though, so don't fret too much.

Reverting

Of course you can. There's many guides to help you through this as well (not to mention I do it quite often LOL)

Rooting/unrooting

Rooting is actually pretty easy to do. There are apps that let you root straight from your phone. You don't need to be a computer pro in order to root and install custom roms. I'm not that great with computers myself. You don't really need to backup every time you install an app. That's more of a precautionary measure, but you don't really need to do it. I don't quite see why you'd need to either.

As for unrooting... This isn't possible because the root in the Jelly Bean roms are essential for some things such as recovery to work. The system itself in some roms require root, mostly for customisations such as tablet mode and other nifty mods. In 4.2 roms though, the Superuser (the app that grants/denies root permission) is built into Settings so its quite non-invasive, and in 4.0.x/4.1.x you can hide it using launchers (even the stock launchers).

Hope that answers all your questions sufficiently! Just send back a reply if you want any extra info.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hawaiianmofo:
Wow yes thankyou so much!!

That actually helps a lot.

Would the same things apply to Ice cream sandwhich? (Battery thing - I've read that ICS conserves more battery than JB?)

Would you recommend me upgrading up a new OS. (Given that warranty is probably out by now)

Cheers
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soryuu:
What you've heard about ICS is right- Project Butter is purely a Jelly Bean thing. ICs does conserve a bit more battery- potentially quite a bit if you're a conservative user. ICS is still really smooth though.

The big downside about custom ICS roms compared to Jelly Bean is the lack of features. Developers, being the extremely talented people they are, have added so many new features to Jelly Bean- Halo, Per-App colour and DPI, PIE to name a few, as well as the ones already in Jelly Bean such as Google Now, lockscreen widgets and expandable notifications.

So if you don't mind not having some of those features (there are still lots and lots of mods for ICS), then its really up to you whether you want ICS or JB. Otherwise everything else I've said pretty much applies.

As for recommending- Its personal choice. Stock Gingerbread does have advantages over ICS/JB and vice-versa (hence why I stay on it most of the time). However personally if you're looking for speed and performance as well as more features/apps available to you, definitely upgrade. :D
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] karansinghraghav:
can any one give a link to buy silicon cover for galaxy sl? because i ordered 1 from ebay and it didnt fit (strage?)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] vishal007:
This question is for my Indian brothers here (specially living in new delhi).

I am very impressed with this device And I am buying this instead of nexus 4.

Well I searched a lot, went on androidguruzz site, they are selling for Rs. 27440 but I cannot add the device to cart (site problem)

I thought to order from oppostyle but as you guys know INR value is down these days and if I order from there it well cost me 30000+ Rs. which I cannot afford.

I just want to ask if there is any shop in new delhi which have already imported this device when price were low I will buy from there. Is there any shop selling this device in new delhi?

I am very confused and really wants this device but have got no idea what to do?

Please help me with this, thank you :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Powerhouse:
Hi there,

You should start searching for a Shop instead of spamming the General section.....by the way, many guys here might not be from your region ..and please don't create this type of spamming thread in future...Good luck buying the device :good:

Thank you,

P.007
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] vishal007:
I am sorry, my intension was not spamming general section.

I live 100 Km away from New Delhi, so thought of asking the guys who live there that is there any shop which keep this type of device.

Btw I know many guys here living in New delhi so thought of asking from them.
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Diamondback:
Doesn't really have anything to do with this device.

Thread closed.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] harsh586:
This thread is for questions and answers to the members who do not have 10 posts yet.

The FAQ's and bugs are here , so check them before asking questions ,

If you are too excited using my rom , then consider donating to these people :

CREDITS:

PCFighter

Mikeioannina

FXP: cm10 device trees

CyanogenMod: great software

cm42semc

shufuking

nAa: awesome kernels

M66B: bug fixes, features/improvements

ThilinaC

FAQ :

Some known issues :

Launcher forgets sd card apps

Just that do not expect great battery life as 3.4 kernel isn't the best for battery. The rom is also my daily driver and i can get a days usage..I will not lie to any of you to brag about my rom..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] franczg:
.

Thanks!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Togepix:
SJBX V3

Hello. First I want to give thanks for your work. I downloaded the latest version 3, but I have many problems:

- The phone becomes very hot.

- Long time to charge the battery. Yesterday in 4 hours did not reach 100%.

- I loaded the phone at night with 90% percent, and I went to sleep and ... was extinguished without battery to get up!

And I think preference level has more options Cyanogenmod based version 10.1.

Is there any solution to the issue of battery consumption?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Dharmesh8294:
patch for neo?

Is there any patch for neo of this rom??:confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] harsh586:
for battery consumption , just wait for a day or two for the rom to stabilize. But battery life will not be as good as android 4.0 or 4.1 . As the kernel also is in dev stages.

[MENTION=5329663]Dharmesh8294[/MENTION] patch not there as of yet.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Togepix:
Battery...

It is true! The first time I installed the rom the battery is consumed in a few hours. Now the second battery charge seems to last longer (though admittedly still far from Super Jelly Bean 5.5).

As for RAM consumption and performance is much better than Super Jelly Bean 5.5. Incredibly fast and quick, perfect. In the following versions ask you to improve the front camera (not working) and greatly increase the battery.

Take this opportunity to thank you for your work, as we can not renew our phone (in my case money) greatly appreciate you work. Thank you very much, keep it up, congratulations from Spain!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] diwakar2030:
pretty good RAM management but facing battery drain

I am seeing battery drain from yesterday with no apps or mods installed..I m using kernel inside Zip. file.But very good work
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] bloodysak:
Asking about fixes

[/QUOTE]

Some known issues :

1.front cam fc(will be fixed asap )

2.back button exits the keyboard and the app both ( source fix required )[/QUOTE]

Have the above said issues fixed in this ROM itself or a new update will be released for it ?

Plz I really want to flash the ROM the answer to the above decided whether or not will I flash it.

Thank You
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Attitude.SSJ:
[/QUOTE]Have the above said issues fixed in this ROM itself or a new update will be released for it ?

Plz I really want to flash the ROM the answer to the above decided whether or not will I flash it.

Thank You[/QUOTE]

Known issues means its present in this rom... Fixing it ain't easy... A fix may or may not come in the immediate future...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Sherlocked:
CyberShot

There's a CyberShot for this rom, or i have to install a app from playStore?

Note: This mod don't work:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2308368

Sorry for my bad english.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] jollz04:
I have been using this rom as my daily rom. The Ram management is quite good. Rom is really smooth and fast.Random Reboots are still there and brightness level is quite low, u need to keep it at almost half level. Lockscreen is also too fast . Never experienced this kind of smoothness while using lockscreen. I really appreciate Dev's work for bringing this level of smoothness.

Hope random reboots and battery performance issues will be solved in upcoming days :good::laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] muzzu:
Xperia neo v

THANK YOU FRIEND GOOD JOB:cowboy:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] muzzu:
:good::good::good::good:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] khibacana:
very good :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] debian_00:
thanks for your great rom runs so smoothly.....and is beautiful like the smaller icons....

one problem i noticed no notification led?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] ashlp2904:
can u make cm10.2 ???:fingers-crossed:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] Draguxen:
Hello, i have some questions. First of all, i have installed file manager, and when i try to allow root acces, i cant... In the other way, is it possible to change the song you are listening with the volume controls? Where can i find the apk to install the email? Thank you

Enviado desde mi Xperia Neo V usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] notbiased:
Are you going to port this for Neo?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] atembleque:
Hi. Thanks a lot for this ROM. This is the best 4.2.2 I've tried. I have tested different releases of LegacyXperia (@shufuking) and DarkDefender, but this is the best, so soft, and the battery life is great (I use greenify) using 3g everytime, like CM10 I think. Ram management is ok too, always up to 150 Mb free in my Arc S. Still testing, I'll report
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] iconh2:
:good:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] migounanounet:
thanx for this rom :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] iconh2:
l

rom running feet stay! but also one of its drawbacks:

1. cameras do not remember what I have installed

2. Touch is not really accurate

3. no custom status bar

4. not suggest contacts from phone keypad

5. no custom shortcuts on the lock screen.

sympathy for my english capital