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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
Just because root has not been released, does not mean it has not been accomplished.

Gaining root on a device is generally far easier than unlocking/hacking the bootloader and really shouldn't be stressed on
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt_1224:
Personally I believe that it won't be to long before someone unlocks the bootloader. If they havn't already.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I agree entirely. Its just when you were responding lolzadam, you said he was in incorrect. I don't know though since you said it hasnt been released then I guess there isn't a way to make it happen for people, unless as you implied, they accomplish it themselves.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Seriously people quit probing.... in case you can't take the many hints dropped root has been or is not a issue obtaining. If you read Jcase's replies he states this more than once. Be patient let things become stable. Everyone is acting like this is the last device to be made.... The crave to have and the need is a fine line :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 10ECN:
+1. Read, Learn, then DO or WAIT.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sstingrae:
Im in for $10
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] obstinate1:
i am in for $10,
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Galaxys4bean:
I i was a developer i would wait until the bounty grows huge before i release anything. There may be a dev that already has the exploit but wants to wait for the bounty to get bigger. Maybe you should close the bounty at 2000-3000? If it goes that far!

Please no hate, just a suggestion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nnnnr14:
You don't think 1k+ is big enough?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 318sugarhill:
Just my opinion but while there may be financial gain involved, I don't believe developers primary motivation for what they do is money. I'm not saying people won't respond to a bounty but if a way is possible, with or without a bounty a way is likely to be found. The primary goal of a bounty is to help entice one with the skills to focus their attention our way. Just take a look at this site. Many devs work in teams.....and also have friendly (and possibly unfriendly:silly:) competition with others. If you had a way and were sitting on it for a bounty pot to get bigger, you run the risk of losing out to someone who beats you to the punch.

I only encourage anyone on xda who has/will use it to add to the bounty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
I cannot see how anyone can do the bootloader unlock. Its not confirmed but most likely a QFuse is blown and unless something leaks or miraculously qualcomm has another exploitable method
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Through root, things will be had, it might just take a few steps but the result is possible. That's why it's very important that we get root and recovery first. Unlock will be possible down the road after that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] durrell12:
It seems ridiculous to me to say "root is possible" and "root is easy, we just want unlocked bootloader" and then not share the root exploit. Considering soft root isn't linked to the unlocked bootloader at all, why not go ahead and help those of us out who could care less about an unlocked bootloader?

I'd be perfectly happy with soft root and a locked bootloader if it's all I could have, as I'm sure other ME7 users would.

I stupidly un-rooted and updated thinking root/loki (or some equivalent) would be relatively easy to obtain with time considering the size of the GS4 user base, but now I'm getting worried. And the ridiculous fighting in this thread isn't making me feel much better. There's no reason to have a ... measuring contest around here. It's pretty clear who knows what.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
Actually, it would be stupid to share one before the other was ready, when the other likely requires the first. Why you might ask? Because they could patch the root before the bootloader was done. Of course people always complain about work that doesn't belong to them, no matter what.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
There are reasons root exploits are not always shared (especially for free). Believe it or not but sources other than people who use the devices value root exploits as well (in almost all cases at a far pricier payout too).

This! :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] durrell12:
I'm not complaining. I don't know enough about it (yet) to really say one way or the other. But I've been around long enough to know my fair share.

I was under the impression that obtaining root at the ROM level wouldn't be affected by the bootloader at all. Obviously you know more about it than me, so care to explain to the rest of us how the bootloader and root at that level is linked?

I think the majority of us are here to learn, so any guidance is appreciated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brycekerr:
Regardless of drama... I can't wait to give you my money :)

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Redflea:
Put me down for $10 and $10.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rlivin:
Im good for $10.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lolzadam:
I apologize for my filthy slandering mouth. :eek: Just wish everyone would be a little nicer before people felt like they had to call other people out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
Well, lets assume what (if anything) happens to the bootloader is similar to loki, no way to install without root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] durrell12:
10-4. Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lmalinofsky:
Pledge

We users who have been raped can't just lie down and take it. When a multinational Fortune 100 company decides to sabotage our devices for its profit, we have to stand up to the plate. I'm not sure if this message is enough, but I would like to say I pledge $50 for root and recovery, and $100 for full bootloader unlock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jessrbird:
I'll put $20 in the pot. Good luck, developers. I'll never flash a ROM without reading about it first ever again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] patience1:
Put me down for $20.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] delaneybob:
Put me in for $30
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] servingjesus17@gmail.com:
Verizon SCH-i545 rooted, then updated to ME7

After reading this post, I thought I would share my experience, and see what you all think...

My Verizon GS4 notified me that there was a software update today. I had just rooted it yesterday, and installed CWM touch recovery at the same time. I decided to download the update, since I thought it could be the update for Verizon AWS service that they are implementing...

When I updated, CWM recovery told me that It would likely try to flash stock recovery upon reboot, and asked me to continue or fix. I chose fix. Then it said I was in danger of losing root access, continue or fix? I chose fix. then it rebooted, tried to install the update, then said that it was UNsucessful. after booting though, I went to 'about phone' and the last three characters of the basband version had changed to ME7 instead of MDK. Now when I check for updates, it says it is up to date already... So I'm wondering... Am I actually updated? Root checker says I AM rooted
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] riker147:
Can you get back into CWM?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshw0000:
Can you post screenshots of your "About Phone" and let us know if you can boot to CWM.

I've always thought updates would fail with a custom recovery. If this is legit, I may try it.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] servingjesus17@gmail.com:
Verizon GS4

Well, Here's what's strange; maybe I don't know how to boot into CWM. But I am CERTAIN the the screen that come up during update WAS CWM, because it was blue and was touch. However, when I hold the volume down button + home button + power while starting, I get the android warning screen. hitting the volume up button takes me to the android "downloading; do not turn off target" screen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JFazYankees:
Hold volume up when booting or download ROM Manager and try to enter custom recovery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mssam:
That's the mode for odin, not recovery. Try volume up / power. When you see the samsaung logo and the little blue words in the upper left that say "booting recovery..." let go of the buttons. Do you enter your recovery?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] servingjesus17@gmail.com:
Verizon GS4

Ok, I forgot I had ROM manager installed already... when I choose to boot into custom recovery, it brings up the Android recovery screen...

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Currently reflashing Custom recovery via ROM Manager
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] r_hippy:
That's the issue. Restoring root is possible as I did it. But no recovery locked bootloader. / no loki
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mssam:
Well, sounds like he's updated...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] servingjesus17@gmail.com:
Verizon GS4

I'm using CWM 6.0.3.2

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No, I cant seem to boot into recovery. It always takes me to Odin.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dligon:
I say use the bounty to um "bribe" one of the tech guys at vzw or samsung to "accidently" leak the bootloader unlock codes and anything else that is needed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] servingjesus17@gmail.com:
Root Coming?!

Max lee over at Galaxy4root.com says he is working on an update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
TLDR; He has a partially updated system, CWR probably flashed much of the update but may have missed parts of the bootchain and stock recovery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hoboballer:
How do I contribute to the bounty?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
Just make a reply on this thread and include how much you want to contribute
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hoboballer:
put me down for $10 both bounties!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lmalinofsky:
oh boy, don't you know the bootloader unlock code is more valuable to Verizon than gold, and I'm certain there are only a few people in the entire corporation that know what it is ; and all of them are way too high to have care about a few thousand dollars.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rajat12345:
Root

I've been following this thread for a while and some people have been saying that they can get root could you please explain how?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Delakit:
You sure you've been reading? Lol. Nobody said we can "get root on ME7." Some of us simpley [retained] root while taking the OTA. VooDoo Root Keeper. AFAIK.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
I believe what was said is that a couple of devs have gotten root, but have not released the way they did it yet. They are waiting until they get more things ironed out. So yes, root is attained on ME7, the way they did it just isn't released yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] m3Jorge:
put me down for $10 and $20 respectively...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rajat12345:
Oh ok that makes sense, lets just hope they figure it out sometime soon and have the devs tried EZ Unlock (unlikely I know, but there is always a chance)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cruiserdude:
For those on the ME7 update that retained root, may I ask what happens when you simply try to install an older aboot or kernel with the dd command? I understand it's not going to work, I'm just wondering exactly HOW it doesn't work.

Also, what exactly causes it to fail when you attempt to flash anything exploitable with Odin? Is it something on one of the secure partitions of the phone itself that rejects it, or is it merely causing something in Odin to refuse to continue with the flash?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] johnc0865:
I will do $20 for root and recovery, $40 for full unlock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kanostic:
Bounties

Put me down for $50 bounties for both
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markanthonyjohn:
BOUNTY

Put me down for $10 for root and recovery, $20 for full unlock.​
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] randy hoopes:
$25 donated here!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
Put me down for 25$ each.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dubbsy:
Note to self stop developing ROMs. Start learning more about exploits.

sent from my blu vzw gs4 :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bobstone:
voodoo?

Can anyone confirm that using voodoo, when you're already rooted obviously, and then running this update will maintain root? I know this might not be the right place to ask this but I'm sure everyone here would be interested.

Thanks in advance.

PS - I ran an update on my Asus TF 700 with root and it only half kept root. I can look it up if need be but in that forum someone had a code that you ran from your computer that fully restored my root. it was awesome and flawless.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jim2029:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2364017
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mentosone:
Holy smokes thats a good chunk of change!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidstyle:
so i take it adam outler wants no part of unlocking this dvice? He is the one that unlocked the gs3 and note2...anybody contact him?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrbracht:
Jcase, you got this? :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Before you get corrected I suggest you read the thread, this has been covered. Outler is a great dev no doubt but he didnt unlock those devices. Outler simply created the front end or gui you used to unlock the device. When unlocking you usually have two devs the one who creates the exploit and the one who makes the exploit ready to be used by the public. Or sometimes its just a solo act. But Ralkdev is the one who created the exploit for the S3. Even though theres a chunk of change to be had its time consuming and well just promises till the moneys in the bank.

Cheers!

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Saving him from typing this time
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
Ralekdev unlcoked s3 and n2, Adam tested the exploits and designed/wrote the front end Casual. Its a scripting based front end that runs on linux, mac and windows (Brave man supporting windows, PITA!).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidstyle:
yes I know I meant to say adam and crew...still you get my drift. do they have no interest?

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you clearly know what i am asking...I know relekdev did the unlocking, I meant to say adam and crew.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
All Im stating is this has been covered thats it. Always a good idea to scan a thread it will save you time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bajasur:
Good to see you in hear droidstyle, your a legend yourself for all you do in the S3/Note 2 forums.

Maybe you can throw them a bone!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
Lol I'm waiting for jcases response to this one...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
then scroll up
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
Lol nice I didn't refresh my browser
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidstyle:
I have been around the samsung game for a couple years now...excuse me for not being politically correct. ;)

I have not had any time to look into this nor do i have a s4 or plan on buying one. I will no longer buy a qualcom chipped device. If it was not for african canadian sock monkey dropping a leaked insecure sboot for the s3 it would still be locked. Relekdev, Rebellos, and AO seem to have a better grasp for hacking Exynos devices. That being said after reading alot of AO's posts, the s3 was my last qualcom device. Unfortunately the only thing that can be done is wait and hopefully somebody will cough up a leak for that big bounty because its the only way this device will be unlocked...dont mean to be a debbie downer, but thats probably why AO or Relekdev have shown no interest.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
Don't know why I was quoted here but OK....good to see you droidstyle....I still have my note 2 to get all of my flashing done :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lolzadam:
Are you also alluding to the impossibility of root+recovery? Or just unlocked bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidstyle:
nice to see ya as well :)

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Ahh yes the qfuse...definately no good!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Root is the easy part, recovery may take some time and a few tricks. If someone is able to achieve an unlocked bootloader in addition to all that, they are truly master of their domain and deserve much more than this community can ever give them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jcase:
Based on how unlock is determined, and how eng builds are signed with different keys. Don't think an unlock is going to do much good, personally I think a loki like solution is probably the best bet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
Loki is a lot better than nothing. As long as I can get rid of the bloat and touchwiz and get back my custom ROM goodness I'll be happy. My archbox has been itching to start building a ROM for this phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lolzadam:
I agree. Not to mention I would really like for Google wallet to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ogredeschnique:
Because most C level execs are super technical like that. Honestly, they delegate quite a bit of responsibility to people who ARE technical. That's what people who are good at delegating do. They're called managers.

It somehow takes less time to read a ~40 page thread than it does to ask an uninformed question? :silly: Saves face maybe. Well, not that face.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidstyle:
yes I did some reading on that and believe you are correct.

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being I do not frequent this forum or have the device, yes I asked a uninformed question. Maybe some of you can forgive me for that...however I did take the time to read the entire thread so now I am more informed if that makes you feel better. :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Ok ok droid you got me I could have just been straight about it....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
It'll happen guys just have some faith...there's got to be a Dev in the entire U.S on AT&T or Verizon that can figure it out...there's always a way...it just takes time
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cruiserdude:
So is Verizon shipping out S4s with the update or without it still? I ask because I still have an S3 and plan to get the S4 at some point in the future, but definitely don't want to get one with an un-exploitable bootloader. Wondering if I should try to get one ASAP if that's the case. Then again, I suspect development will largely stall until some sort of work around is found.

I had a Motorola device, and I hated working with a locked bootloader. I'm not interested in such an experience again. Trying to decide if I should get an S4 asap, or keep waiting in hopes that something is found.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
I received mine after the update came out and it didn't come with it...but who knows at this point
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nazzo123:
Well im on my 2nd like-new replacement phone because i've been having bad luck on receiving them with bad power buttons that feels like its in more than it should be. When i got my 1st replacement it was the same thing and i updated it. After that i found out thats its taking forever to unlock/root and im a crack flasher so i called up verizon telling them my button is pushed in again and that the update is making my battery life worse. So my replacement came in the morning without the update and i was SO HAPPY!! Rooted it right away and put hyperdrive back on. The update made it more stable with the camera and call not lagging when picking up but whatever it works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bobby janow:
I'm getting one this morning. I'll let you know.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
I hope so...but there was a Bounty on the Droid Bionic and no one ever cracked that one, except for gaining root and using SafeStrap recovery which was awesome: I loved being able to have 4 add'l ROMS on the phone in addtion to stock. You could change it up at will. I wonder if something like that would work on the S4?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myn:
I thought the power button was a little pressed in more then it should have been on mine too. Was the same way on

my S3 too :/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
myn, nice to see you here. (been a long time since Warm TwoPointThree) :) :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myn:
Maybe another Warm ROM is in order if we can get this bootloader issue resolved :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
At this point, currently I would be happy with root. I want to be able to modify my APN setting and load google wallet. I don't care to ROM my S4, did enough of that on my Bionic, was never as stable as stock - ever. If anyone has a valid way to root the S4, please PM me.

I'm still in for $25 either way the bounty turns out. Hope something happens soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] -Michael_:
HTC Incredible FTW - Warm TwoPointThree was awesome !
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Understood. Root would just make me happy as well. Actually, in the last 3-6 months after the Bionic was updated to Jelly Bean, a few ROMS did/do stand out. I am still using my Bionic wirelessly as a backup and continue to SafeStrap the updates such as Carbon, Flying Jelly, etc which run fairly well for the basic phone functions.

However, I think my ROMing days are coming to an end: I hate to think of all the lost hours spent since the OG Droid>>>>Bionic just messing and flashing. What more do we really want/need ouf of a phone? Just saying...

But still hoping root can be obtained at the very least.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Root has been obtained.. If I am not mistaken it needs to be tested and made stable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
This is an interesting thing I read about today: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...now-available-for-purchase-at-29-99-per-year/

Maybe this is what makes bootloader unlocking now so tricky...or something related.

Along with an easy recovery method as well (as root alone doesn't qualify for the bounty).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Folks over here are lucky. Doesn't sound like there is much interest in new exploit for maxx hd. Good luck. Hope you crack it!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Great news. I will patiently wait as I would prefer stability over a "hurry up and get it out" job just to appease the users. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cruiserdude:
I just hope that people don't start losing interest in a full bootloader unlock or workaround once root/recovery is had. As I said, I had a RAZR (still have it, actually) and I'm not interested in another phone that you can't flash custom kernels on. Not to mention having to build AOSP for the stock kernel, which really holds things back.

I remember going through this same crap with the S3 when it first dropped, though at least we had the kexec method of flashing kernels, that was soon built into recovery, to hold us over. I suppose that's sort of like loki though in terms of end-user experience, which they now blocked before a true solution was found.

I'm curious as to what exactly could be leaked that would give us what we want, considering it doesn't appear that aboot can be downgraded? I'm also curious as to how exactly it could be downgraded by someone like Samsung themselves? Could this be done through JTAG, or would you need an Anyway jig? And would even that work without Samsung's key?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
I don't think its something that will get leaked this time around, Samsung seems to be priding them selves on this new Knox crap they have. However if there was a hailmary that would be it a leak
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Unfortunately even with a leak our options are limited due to blown qFuse.