yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
I just asked the same quesrion a few days ago in another thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2379136
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] KennyG123:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thelink12:
Im in

Had an iPhone for the last 3-4 years for work and just got the S4. First thing I did was look into rooting and flashing custom ROMS only to find out I am screwed for now. Count me in for $20.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heyazzo:
Disabling SE Linux

http://www.linuxcommand.org/man_pages/setenforce8.html

Notice in my shell, there is no 127 user associated now with root via the pipe in the caption before hash code going in.

Try it after this has been accomplished.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Chayodyn:
Thanks for this. That answers a lot off my questions about what samsung has done to this device.

So, what is the MAGICCODE? Is that made up of signatures created from private keys held by Samsung? Also, if we somehow had those private keys (difficult, I know, but bear with me), would we then be able to apply our own bootloaders, recoveries and system images?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heyazzo:
Maybe libselinux.so or some other files to edit for boot, and testing...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Chayodyn:
So the private keys wouldn't really help much?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heyazzo:
We're looking for 256 characters of code, with 2048 permutations, mathematically. These keys are part of an algorithm matching an md5 signature. The solving of the equation is no closer to being solved than p=np.

We've moved past this annoyance of boot, and perhaps settled on using the safestrap method. SElinux is next up to bat. He must strike out. Otherwise we stay in extra innings here. Thanks for the support.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Chayodyn:
Sure, if you brute-force it. I understand what an RSA key is. And I fully understand the difficulties of cracking them, believe me ;). I am new to working with android (and new to xda, obviously), so I'm trying to understand how the signing mechanisms play into all of this. Also, Google had been helpful, but not very specific. Does Knox use the same signing scheme as APKs and the standard OTA system updates to verify each image in the bootchain?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lolzadam:
Well, I was going to ask about the trust zone and how it works, but I found this article here on XDA for anyone interested: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/trustzone-a-dimension-of-multiple-worlds/

Just an overview of it's implementation. I'd like to know more about how it's implemented on this device though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] soad1789:
Count me in for $35, the cost of returning my new S4 and hoping to get one without the dreaded VRUAME7 update.

I wish I could do more. Such a bummer, having upgraded from a phone I despised (LG Revolution) and drooling over the community around ClockWorkMod and other AOSP ROM's, I was so excited to jump into the modding scene having made a phone-selection mistake I did NOT intend to repeat!

This is the saddest first post ever :rolleyes: anyway, it's great to see a community like this here, I'm glad to be join it!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gleggie:
So is there currently no way to unlock the bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] soad1789:
Cheers to Big Red

As far as I understand it, no; there is NO way to unlock the bootloader or install custom recoveries. Rooting is possible, but if you think you're gonna install other ROMs after this update your currently SOL. I'm hoping the large bounty will encourage the continued motivation of those capable of finding (and currently looking for) an exploit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wheelbarrel:
I got lucky when I purchased my S4 and got a CSR who had a rooted S4 already! So he was telling me about the update nag and how I shouldn't take it.. Duh! lol.. Now we just need some stable roms ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
I'm sure that this has already been thought of by those working on trying to exploit this lock. I don't know if any of you had a Samsung vibrant t959 but you were able to root it then there was something in the 3e recovery by Samsung that blocked it from installing a custom one. If I remember correctly you had to adb to install 2e

All this was going on b4 I got mine so I don't know everything about it nor do I know all the details cuz a one click method was out when I picked mine up.

Sorry I couldn't be more specific but I hope this helps push the door in (at least a little).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] samiamapirate:
I got $10-on-it

Count me in for $10 for the root+recovery! I hard-bricked my s4 and had to send it in for a replacement as I could not afford the $60 for JTAG unbricking:( I didnt take the OTA by choice so I'm pretty upset I made a stupid mistake and hardbricked my phone but life goes on... Anyways, I am totally in for $10 as that is all I can really afford right now. Just pm me if this is achieved but I am sure I will check back regularly as I would really enjoy getting back to flashing some custom ROMs. Thanks to all the developers out there puttin in work!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HowardZ:
I have been thinking.... Why should a locked bootloader prevent one from making nandroid backups or installing roms??

With root one can mount any partition r/w.

I think it is possible to write software to flash ROMs without an unlocked bootloader

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
Dont know if this helps but I just noticed in stock recovery under the green android it says no commands. It does this on both my wife's and mine and both are stock me7. It also doesn't allow me to wipe cashe partitions just gives an error message.

Do you think that there is some kind of lock in stock recovery working in unison with the bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droid2345:
How did you brick your phone? Just curious so others don't fall down the same path.

Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
I regained root access while playing with the SuperSU app settings, I believe I enabled survival mode and installed SuperSU into /system, now wheres my bounty:p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wtherrell:
You got custom recovery with that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
Yea got CWM 6.0.3.2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ncope562:
Can the forum gods strike this guy dead.

Sent from R2-S4. May the Beans be with you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
CWM 6.0.3.2 installed just fine.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brock350:
With ME7 firmware?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
I cant remember but I did install a huge update earlier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] riker147:
Very easy to check, then show a screenshot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
Is it the build number?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Are you on ME7 or MDK?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] KappaAce2010:
You better not lying because that would be a cruel joke...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
I dont know what you mean but my build number is JDQ39.I9505XXUBMGA

Have I screwed up big time?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Wrong thread buddy. You have the international version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] matt_1224:
Not sure why my post isnt on here but I wanna up my donation to $200
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
His signature says UK :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droid2345:
So after the major update on the international version it is recovery friendly ? Was a friendlier patch installed on non US phones?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] KappaAce2010:
.....yes, BIG TIME.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
I'm sorry a wild goose lead me here blame him.

I spose someone with a US version could try what I did.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Apparently.

---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Well the OP is pretty straight forward.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CommanderLake:
I didnt know what VRUAME7 meant and assumed an update was an update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Gotcha. No worries. You can search for your device's forum thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
I was getting the same error on ME7 when I had it....wouldnt let me wipe cache either

---------- Post added at 07:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:35 PM ----------

Bless your heart dude....so....so far we have someone either getting $3,375 or $4,475 plus a Galaxy Nexus with Dock and a Stock Droid DNA....this is a fantastic bounty so far
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] andybones:
Absolutely, they deserve all of it. IMO, if they are able to get boot loader unlock it may be a good chance they are able to obtain root + recovery, it would only seem reasonable given the amount of time I'm sure it would have taken to accomplish this, to first release root + recovery to collect the bounty, and then wait to release boot loader unlock even though it is done to collect the other bounty.

It seems logical to me that they should get both bounties, even if they are nice enough to provide us with a boot loader unlock first without a root + recovery.

Just my 2 cents.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
I apologize for this off topic post but is this a known issue?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mu5a5hi:
In for Ten

I'm in for $10 as well. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Slighty unrelated but sort of related just thought you guys should know:

AT&T To Android Users: We Don't Support Unlocked Bootloaders, So Stop Asking Us About Every Phone

AKA

: If you want to ever get hopes of an unlocked bootloader device on AT&T or Verizon again, buy the developer edition device at only full retail price and remember you only have 30 days warranty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] samiamapirate:
Man..raise me up to 100 dollars for the full unlock, and 30 dollars for the root+recovery. I want my custom ROM capabilities back!:( Go developers, go!:thumbup:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SilverCi:
Donation

Add me in for $100

I'm going to need an "easy button" though as i'm a newb :)

Whats out right now... just Root? Is it possible to do on my MAC. Can someone point me to some fool proof directions.

thanks guys!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Southern_mind:
You could try the app someone posted in the root thread.

http://db.tt/xGnSH2Jo

The app won't work if you have any kind of ad blocker

Click on "ROOT1"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eklipz3:
They start losing customers i think that song will change nobody want's to be controlled.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droid2345:
ideas...

In root mode can the knox app be froze or force

stopped? if so would this make it easier

to come up with recovery or unlock?

I think stopping a security service in knox from running

could help. True?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] _base2:
Put me down for $50 for the bootloader unlock bounty. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ryno77:
I want to up my donation to $30 for bootloader unlock. I am on MDK so I'm still "unlocked", I just want Verizon and Samsung to lose this battle.....plus I don't want this community dying off.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] KennyG123:
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It is not for idle chit chat, percentages, iPhones, or anything other than the title of the thread

This thread will be permanently closed if it gets off topic again

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ruffneckZeVo:
Im on MDK but would like to upgrade so put me down for 200 for bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mlin:
Can the developer edition be insured the same way other phones are. Factory warranties on these devices are nearly worthless anyway...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] theresin:
Yikes. Let's not get this one locked down guys.

To open1your1eyes0 - Boost me up to $50 on the bootloader unlock bounty (I'll stay at $10 on the "recovery only" side).

I'll throw in my original Kindle Fire to whomever comes up with an unlock as well. Certainly not anything to write home about, but it's something! The daily threat of losing more developer support is really starting to hit home... Thanks for keeping this thread updated!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bloodcrav:
We broke 5g's :beer:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mlin:
I think the biggest issue is that the "idle chit chat" creates more bullcrap for the op to sift through to find actual donation posts. Make sense? If not pm me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Naddict:
Hate to do this folks, any more of the "challenging" of moderators warnings and guidance in this thread is going to result in immediate closure. At least two Moderators are spending too much time in this thread.

There are other threads for idle chit chat, this here is for the furtherment of development.

Next one "off topic" and thread is closed and user is infracted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jorceshaman:
I don't know how any of this works but is it possible to create a super computer app like the one for folding DNA to crack the master key in this, past, and future bootloaders? Just a suggestion. No clue how feasible it is.

Edit: I know that Bitcoin uses a similar app as well and I'd run it for other people's phones as well if someone knows how to do it. Of course, I don't know how they hand out the work loads or how to write code but it could be a long term solution for all phones if it can be done. And not sure if you can crack Linux code from Windows.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sppatel:
Add me for 10 dollars for recovery and 20 dollars for bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jorceshaman:
I'm not sure, I didn't "upgrade" to ME7. I'm currently running CM 10.2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] killajoe:
I noticed with titanium pro I can see and have the option to freeze and uninstall the Knox programs. Haven't tried though
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Obsidian_soul:
Sent from my hyper driven SCH-1545
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jpi.islas:
Noticed something that may be helpful...when rooting, on the first boot afterwards my phone showed the unlocked icon and said custom, after that first boot though it's back to normal. Could mean nothing at all, but seemed strange to me and potentially helpful?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fafaffy:
I'm not gonna lie, I really want the bootloader to be unlocked, but in the same breath, I'm really glad it isn't.

Having the bootloader locked really does give you a more sense of security, at least it does for me. Since we were able to attain root, I was able to do everything I want, which included protecting my phone.

I installed Cerberus hidden version ( https://www.cerberusapp.com/download.php ) and made it a system app. I then hid it from the app drawer making it literally invisible to everything except Device Administration.

If somebody ever steals my phone, they can't just format every partition removing cerberus entirely, or install a custom recovery and do it, all they can only just wipe everything off the device keeping cerberus installed. Also, the chances of somebody knowing how to find the hidden version of cerberus, and uninstalling it properly is pretty slim, and because of that I'm pretty much guarantee'd that I will always be able to track my phone.

Saying this, the benefit of having a locked bootloader is more security on the device, which to the contrary could also be a negative.

This doesn't really have any relation to the thread, but I want users to have a different outlook at this scenario, and see that having a locked bootloader isn't only a bad thing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
If they really wanted to get rid of cerberus, all they would have to do is hook it to a computer and odin flash me7 to it and it will be stock, so no cerberus. It's actually quite easy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fafaffy:
That is true, but still, it's a painful procedure. If I had a custom recovery, it'd take no more than 30 seconds for everything to be gone.

I never said this was a guarantee'd way to secure your phone, just a different outlook. I can't imagine crooks who steal phones being too tech savvy anyway, but maybe I'm wrong. Regardless, it was meant to show another point of view, I'd still love for this to be unlocked, but I don't want everyone to say how there's no benefits to it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droid2345:
So I wonder if this would open the door for a recovery method ? Just throwing it

out there for the developers.

It would be nice if a samsung employee put an anonymous hint in this forum. The bounty is very big and growing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pteargryphon:
For christs sake if it was that easy dont you think they would of figured that out already.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ryno77:
Reminder.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] samiamapirate:
This thread should not be shut down because people cannot follow the rules.

Go to the thread linked here for discussion on the bounty topic.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2384222

Add this to the op maybe? Could help to get people to have their 'idle chit chat' where it belongs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jazic:
What did you do to get the custom icon removed from boot?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jpi.islas:
Nothing...it was there on the first boot, and I thought it was strange, then I tried rebooting again to see if it somehow was really unlocked and it was gone...haven't seen it again since then.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bloodcrav:
This is normal after rooting.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jpi.islas:
Does it mean that for that short period of time it's unlocked? I was thinking if there was a way to do the root and then script something to add a recovery during that period of time...I'm probably way off, but thought it was worth asking...I'm sure if it was that simple someone would have done it by now though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jpl81905:
Bounty

I'm in for $20 US
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] T3HBR1AN:
Put me in for $20 also. Really disappointed I can't root since I replaced the DX2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bait-Fish:
News of some progress, temporary unlock. rajat12345 posted this result and requested more info from the Dev Edition GS4 to figure it out.

Edit: OP's post of acceptable topics *cough*
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pschatz12:
This is awesome but please discuss in another thread so we don't get this one shut down!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jee'sgalaxy:
i second that. this is a bounty thread, but it looks like rajat12345 isn't getting much help.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2395340&page=2 he needs someone with a dev edition phone. he has a partially unlocked the bootloader. if someone with the dev edition phone can assist him, please do!

i hope i didnt break any rules by stating this. it sorta still ties in with the goal of the people supporting these thread. moderators, my intentions were good, but please delete this comment if it breaks the rules.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AsaSpades:
Umm is this not on topic? Off topic was eveyone asking if they order an S4 now will it come with ME7 or not, or random posts about trading it back in, how they feel about Samsung/Verizon, etc? Correct me if i'm wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jorceshaman:
The moderators stated that this is for bounty and discussion related to actually unlocking the bootloader. I'd say that even though he's working on the Google Edition, it could still be considered on topic.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Verizon doesn't have a Google edition s4 :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jorceshaman:
Dev, my bad.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sppatel:
I think the donations list needs to be updated, I contributed several days ago and hasnt been updated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Protibus:
I'm thinking interest has been lost in this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hlxanthus:
At risk of being flamed for breaking topic protocol, there are a TON of donaters for this. Most people are actually doing what the OP and mods have asked and not posting off topic. Interest is still high and will remain so. Too many people bought this device and are with it for 2 years.

In restitution of my breaking topic protocol I offer $10 for recovery and $20 for boot loader. Not a lot I know but it is for me and my meager budget.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheWhiteChallenger:
im in

in for $10 on recovery, $20 on full unlock

sorry to be cheap but ive still got equipment charge to deal with since im not buying untill some comes up with a new unlock, and ill be bumping my unlock donation as soon as i can afford it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Protibus:
I pledged my donation just after the thread began, just a shame no conversation going on here. I hope this not off topic.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bfmetcalf:
The conversations have been taken to here.... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2384222
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
And further discussion has continued here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2395340&page=8

*Could you up my bootloader unlock donation to $75? Thank you much!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stang5litre:
S4 Root from the box

As far as i know they still come without the update installed as i just got one today an have 2 others with the update on them. :( Wife did what the verizon lady said to.... Anyhow Those that are waiting for a solution before they buy just wanted to let you know. They don't come updated.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
This is not the discussion thread for this stuff. Only things related to the bounty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] PetrichorXFi:
GS4 bootloader needed, else 1-2 years device is WORTHLESS

My Vzw GS4 did not have the update (Sorry I don't know the specific version it was on, but from day one it kept asking me to install the VRUAME7 OTA). I got my GS4 Tuesday August 6th.

Thursday August 8th I made the mistake of installing the VRUAME7 OTA. Now my bootloader is locked :(

We need the bootloader/kernel unlock else our beloved GS4 will be useless in 1-2 years despite great hardware. I wish the manufacturers would actually care for their paying customers, however time and time again their actions prove otherwise. My last phone, Motorola Droid X2 always had a locked bootloader.

Motorola said they would unlock it: 1.5 years later it is STILL locked

They said they would update it to ICS: 1 year later it is STILL on Gignerbread.

If the community had access to bootloader/kernel we could have updated the device to ICS or even Jellybean, but because Motorola held an iron grip on the software, the device became CRAP. See, being on 2.3.5 means it has no support for even basic apps such as stock Google Calendar via Play store not to mention poor dual core support crippling the device's performance.

I sure hope my GS4 doesn't become crap 1-2 years from now :( Unfortunately, if we do not gain bootloader/kernel access it is already a dead product to me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Manufacturer is Samsung, and they sell the developers edition (for the 100th time). So they do care for developers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] RaptorMD:
Since I would like to add my $ to the bounty, are we still putting up bounty funds for both Root & Bootloader Unlock since a new Root method has already been achieved now (sorry I am late to the party). Just wanted to clarify prior to posting my additional funds to this cause.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jorceshaman:
Yes, it's just root and not recovery so the conditions haven't been met.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Sorry I have not checked in this thread for a while, but do we have a full list of all the Qfuses?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] iamtravis:
Count me in for $10 even if i am a noob, I am a C# developer and support all the people working on this project!