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[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jersey846:
I think lot of people may be missing part of the point. This guy enjoys a physical keyboard. Maybe you don't, but that's irrelevant since he's the one buying the phone.

Here's my take. And I was in a similar boat to you. About 4 years ago I was lured over to Android from BlackBerry. Thank God... But my biggest reason as to how and why was one you probably don't normally think of when one switches to Android. It was the Motorola Droid Pro's BlackBerry-esque keyboard that sold me. I had gotten so used to the keyboard that the only way I would switch at the time was for a near identical keyboard. I wasn't concerned that a keyboard was passe at that point. But I switched, and liked the Droid Pro for a year and a half or so. After a while though, the small screen, slow processor, and Frodo/Gingerbread began to wear on me. I did a lot of research on keyboard phones and non-keyboard phones. This was around the same time the M was being released. After much deliberation, I ordered an M. While I couldn't possibly love it any more, there was a hurdle to jump. It was my first non-keyboard phone. And for me, this was a difficult one to swallow for a while. I still don't type amazing on the touch screen... However.... And this is the turning point for me.. The stock keyboard was alright, but I wanted to try others out. You'll hear a lot of people talk about Swype keyboard. For me, though, SwiftKey was the answer to my transition. It still has a word prediction feature I use constantly. I'm always mistyping, but with SwiftKey I barely know it. It completed the transition and I just haven't looked back since

As most will tell you, the phone battery is excellent. For me, the display is nice and for my money the camera is just fine. Maybe I'll want a powerhouse phone down the road, but until this phone is crushed by an elephant I am sticking with it and couldn't be happier.

Whew.. Talk about being long winded... :)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bitz_dv:
I can't speak towards a case, I don't use one ( I can get a used RAZR m for around $100 on eBay so I view it as disposable) the onscreen keyboard I am terrible and make lots of mistakes, though flesky makes it a little better. I just really dislike the D4 and look at it as a trade off I can live with. Long emails just wait till in in front of a computer now, annoying but I'd rather have a nice phone then a crappy one with a keyboard.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TraderJack:
Right - thanks for that long-windedness Jersey - I'm looking for detailed experiences. I have good friend who has the M, switched from the D2G and had the D1 before that. He also says that he is good now without the keyboard and using swiftkey.

Question to most people out there... when you use your soft keyboard - are you usually in portrait or landscape mode?

I often send quick google texts in portrait mode with the soft on my D2...and don't find it horrible since it only takes up maybe 1/4-1/3 of the screen. But in landscape mode it takes up more (like half at least if not 3/4).

I think I'm used to using landscape mode *because* of the slide out keyboard...but I'm wondering if I will adapt to portrait with the M(?).
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stanlalee:
When it comes to smartphones now the difference between blazing fast and slow as a turd is like a second or less difference. I mean I still have my single core thunderbolt and it runs (non sensed, CM based) GB and ICS extremely smooth and isn't what I'd call laggy at all opening apps etc. The galaxy nexus uses the same PowerVR540 GPU and similar processor (OMAP 4460 vs OMAP 4430 on the Droid) as the D4 and I have yet to see one I'd consider sluggish or slow even by today's standards.

The main factor is the software. All pre quadcore HTC Sense devices and pre RAZR M/HD/HD MAXX/Atrix HD have software induced lag (that usually goes aware with AOSP based ROMs). I don't know why Samsung is the only oem that can add a bunch of crap (more than the others) and still keep it smooth running on the same or like internal processing.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stesaint:
I only use landscape mode for taking pictures and playing games. I actually have auto-rotate on my homescreen turned off because of how rarely I use landscape. For me typing is incredibly easy and fast in portrait mode, because of Swype/Swiftkey type keyboards. I adjusted to these really fast, but I never once used a phone with a keyboard, so there is a major difference in where we both come from.

You could install Swiftkey on your D2 and try it out in portrait mode. Just try to use it for a couple days and see if its something you can get used to, and if not then the physical keyboard is your answer.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bitz_dv:
I don't know, but for me that split second really makes a difference. I really like Motorola phones, I just wish they had maybe focused on making a really, really good keyboard phone after the success of the D1. The razr M is my favorite phone since the D1, and I have tried every keyboard phone, the original razr, Droid Sarge, and Galaxy S. I really thunk you have to go to the store and play with them, and decide what is best for you.

True I have not convinced my wife to load up a rom on her D4, and as I was typing that message, in a waiting room in a town with poor reception I noticed that my wifes stock D4 had 1 or 2 bars of 3G while my razr M had 0 to 1 bars of 1x, and I constantly notice that she gets better wifi reception in the furthest reaches of our house (though I am running CM 10.1, and stock roms usually have better signal then non-stock)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbreezy187:
As of now... no I wouldn't change back even for free... the performance changed my mind... in every day task (especially when you need it) the M IMO out shines the d4, that and the battery life is what really made me stop trying to fix my d4... I live out in the country and mostly use the GPS to help navigate... when I get lost and say "navigate home" the d4 would take almost a mile to tell me where to go... the M bearly a ¼ mile... the data (4/3g and WiFi) hasn't dropped once on me... the d4 regardless of which ROM it seemed as tho the moment an app or the browser needs Internet it would drop and have to reconnect...the on screen keyboard isn't hard at all to get used to just filling out forms is harder due to no tab key or OK key ... the missing menu button on the M has been the hardiest thing to cope with, true its kinda there when you need it... the in call speaker went out a lot on the d4 I've had close to 7 replacements... they are both tough tho my daughter has got ahold of and thrown both across the room with no damage (hard wood and tile floors in my house) where as the xt912 shattered the first time....
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TraderJack:
Yeah...I have always had a preference for stock roms and the radio performance is one reason why.

I am a swype user and like it - but it isn't as quick as keyboard. I think the problem is that I tend to like to be grammatically correct, so will punctuate properly. When using a soft keyboard, you always have to toggle to the uppercase/symbols menus, when if you are typing on a hard kb you just hold down the shift/alt...it is quicker.

I've been reading a bit about the 1.3mp camera.on the D4 and it seems if it is like similar systems that it may still be only 0.3mp when doing video and only 1.3 when doing still shots. If that's true...then the cam isn't much of an issue.

I just don't think I'll know by playing around for 10 minutes at the store if I'll be happy in the long run. My wife seems willing to take the risk...so I guess we will...so far I'm not seeing too many people saying they left the keyboard behind and found themselves going back....
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WillisD:
I've had the d1, d2, droid pro, and a slew of other vzw androids, the on screen keyboard isn't that bad, find you an after market keyboard and you'll be good
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sloosecannon:
From a physical keyboard, the transition isn't too bad - after about a week on the 4.2 keyboard I was typing just as fast as on my physical keyboard. The punctuation isn't bad either once you learn it...
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pbanj:
every basic phone i have owned for the past 5 years has had a full keyboard on it and my droid 3 had one as well. i was a reluctant to give it up when looking for a new phone. i ended up with the m only because it was the cheapest phone i could find with good specs out of a contract(i got it for 150). at first i didnt like the on screen keyboard but i have gotten use to it and like it now and i have large hands(why i like physical ones over on screen) from what i have seen on my m you can see at a minimum the current word you are typing. i missed the arrow keys the most with the onscreen keyboard but that is easily fixed with a good keyboard app( i have always used thumb keyboard, i bought it when i had my htc tab).
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tucstwo:
Two Words.... Bootloader Unlocked

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[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jersey846:
Months for me. SwiftKey works great but I still don't love tying on a touch screen. SwiftKey has just made it manageable. Everybody is different.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlvlawrence:
If your up for an upgrade, why are you even considering these phones? You could get a way better phone than either one of those.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leraeniesh:
He already stated it was because of price.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meisjohn:
I had an LG Ally (with a slide-out keyboard) before my Razr M and while it took some time to get used to an on-screen keyboard, the screen size made it easier to get used-to. I got a great deal from wirefly.com on my Razr M.

Just so you know: the latest Razr M OTA update closed the root exploit so it can't be unlocked or rooted if it's been updated before you get it. There are developer versions so if you really want root on an M, that's your option until another root exploit is released.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stanlalee:
you can most likely still root (if the current exploits don't work new ones will likely come out), you just can't ever unlock the bootloader. I was pretty happy with my M with just root but I'm glad I unlocked.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TraderJack:
Thanks all - I just went ahead with the M - hopefully I will adjust to no keyboard as others have reported.

I do hope it doesn't come with the new OTA as I would like the option. But, in the end - as long as I can root I will probably be happy.

If I can I will update back here in a few months for those who may come across this in the future and have a similar dilemma.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jersey846:
Definitely give SwiftKey a try. It was the absolute most help I was able to get with my steep transition from 6 years of keyboard.
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TraderJack:
Luckily I bought a copy last year during a 10 cent promotion on Play :)
[Droid RAZR M Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TraderJack:
FYI this is a really late follow up. I ended up with the RAZR M but was having horrible reception with it and very bad 4G coverage (and switching in and out between 3G/4G) in my area. It also ran extremely hot (probably because of the other issues) - such that it was honestly uncomfortable to hold near my face.

I only had a day or two to actually play with it before my return window closed, so I decided to give it up and revert everything back to my old D2. I just took the jump to upgrade to the HTC One, and my wife to the Samsung S5. There are even fewer options for keyboards now and I thought with my bad experience last time with Moto on VZW's 4G, I would try a different vendor. The S5 reception in our home is bearable, hoping the HTC will be the same.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Okaay:
How to get rid of this and use home or back button as menu without different kernel? Thanks Xda.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gunnyman:
Right now, you don't.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Okaay:
Aww was hoping there'd be a way.. Htc should have included the option to switch like in sense since they put some sense things in GE anyways.. Smh.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IINexusII:
you can. add qemu.hw.mainkeys = 1 to the end of your build.prob. youll loose the ability to map to another menu button unless you install a custom kernel. and also install the modaco toolkit to get the menu button in apps which have them mapped to the action bar
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deek0:
It's coming back in 4.2.2 if you are sticking with stock rom.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] rcbear:
I know this topic has be address many many times and there are still no soluation to the problem.

So.. I want to make a poll to see how many user is experiencing this problem.

I hope to grather enough data to see if it is a hardware problem or Firmware problem so that i can address to O2 regarding this issue.

I love my PDA/phone.. but... this issuse really bugs me cos i used the phone for business and it always happens when a important call arrived... :evil:

Pls, Lets Vote with your honest answer...

Derek
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] HappyGoat:
No problems here.... ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Lio:
What i've experienced is that sometimes the ringing sound is very quite even though the volume is at maximum. I make a soft reset and everything's back to normal.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] blakey72:
NO SOUND

I have also experienced the same. I normally have to do a soft reset to fix the problem. Seems its a firmware issue to me.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] chris_khho:
One more issue is that we need to disable the power off system setting after 3minutes.

If not, a phone call will be automatically ended after 3 minutes talking.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] nomadman:
i have also experienced this problem. i had a important caller call me twice and i didnt hear my phone ring. it was also next to me. luckily, i had my backup phone with me when he tried that line.

agreed that we shouldnt have to soft reset to get back the ring tone functionality. i personally think its a caller id version problem, but thats my opinion cause its easier to fix. i just hope it isnt a firmware problem since i wont hold my breathe on O2 releasing a rom upgrade in my phone version.

im going to try some reg tweaks to see if it will help, once my main pc is up and running (currently moving). i just dont want to go back to an older rom because of a ringing problem. but it IS a big problem for most of us.

ps. sorry about the spelling mistakes and punctuations. im on my pda at a coffee shop. ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] HDuser:
Yup I have see the no sould on outgoing, no sound on incoming, reset does the trick for me. Also feel that the sound is low in general (even if set to max)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] rcbear:
Ha.. i call XDA today in their headoffice in Singapore. The CS guy told me.. they know this issue and say there will be a new (Rom) or patch release very soon.

After seeing the vote result. I believe that the issue is do to software, not hardware.

I have a firend that design such product. he told me that it could be that DSP script is not written well. He said, the Echo Cancelling must be overflow causing the unit to manufunction. and after reset, the overflow will be clear out, so the unit function again.

I hope O2 is really releasing a new patch to fix this issue. If not, i think i am force to go back to my Sony Ericsson P910i or one PDA and one phone option. :oops:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] nomadman:
i'm glad that O2 recognises the problem and not passing it on to other people. thanks for the information rcbear. glad you took the extra steps get them looking this way.

i hope "soon" means in a waek or two.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] jeffro01:
same problem

My ringer always works but sometimes, at least every other day. When someone calls me i can not hear them, they can sort of hear me, but the earpiece is dead. A soft reset fix's this problem. Is my issue related to the current issue dicussed in this thread? Thanks

Jeff
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] swamp2:
I have the problem

But I get it seldom and sporadically.

pda2k (out of the box)

ROM: 1.22.00 WWE

Radio: 1.06.00

Protocol: 1337.38

ExtROM: 1.22.162 WWE

AT&T/Cingular
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] rcbear:
Re: same problem

Hi Jeffro01..

Welcome to the club.. :lol:

Derek
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] alkoholic:
I don't seem to have the ring volume problem, but my phone will get into a state where it rings, I answer the phone, but there is no audio. In the six or so times it's happened, I haven't really determined if the caller can hear me. A reboot fixes it.

I can't pin down any one thing I do to cause it to get into this state, but it seems like a software/firmware issue.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] burruse:
I have this problem too.

I had to send my BT headset for repair for two weeks and noticed it did not happen during that time while it started again since I got my BT back.

When it happens (once to twice a week) I soft reset my SPVM2000 and it then is ok.

Also the BT Orange Switzerland patch makes the problem appear less often.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Sorky:
Phone ring problem got me twice today...

Both times, never heard three calls, but the phone still reports them as being missed.

Gotta be a solution for this or I'll be soft resetting every time I finish a call/use.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Lio:
If so I have 2 questions for everyone who has this issue:

1, Do you use a bluetooth headset or any other bluetooth device (gps...)?

2, What is your current bluetooth version and build?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Yung:
I have Bluetooth build 3900, and I'm using 1.33.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] frenchydude4all:
No probleme here

not using BT or WiFi.

Where can I find my BT version?

I don't also have the 3 minutes switch off pb, the PDA function switch off after 3 minutes but the phone remains operational. I often switch the PDA off myself whilst on the phone to save on batteries.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] FactionOne:
...Hi everyone! (1st post!)...

I get the dead-speaker in calls too...

I took delivery of my first SPV M2000 a couple of weeks ago; it had a few problems, one of which was that the speaker would be dead occassionally when making or answering calls requiring a soft-reset to resolve. I initially thought this might be caused by the device not correctly recognising external hardware had become disconnected - handsfree/BT/car-cradle etc. - but it did seem to be at random.

Orange replaced the device last week; and by day 3 without using any handsfree/cradles etc. and BT and WiFi not even enabled (much less paired/connected); the dead-speaker problem reappeared.

I'm not going to bother chasing Orange about this issue on its own (this device doesn't exhibit any of the other problems I had with my first); as it seems to be a pretty common problem that's going to require a software update to fix. Needless to say when I read that HTC have written a fix I will be on Orange's back to make a fix for their ROMs public. (dreaming?).

Just FYI, both the initial device I was supplied and the replacement have the same software versions (in my sig).

Regards,

Rob.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] nomadman:
I circumvented (temporally fixed) the ringtone problem by setting the default ringtone to "None", and also set the phone to vibrate. Then Re-enabled MS Voice Command to announce all incoming calls. The only problem is, the voice isn't loud enough in noisy places, but it does the job in the office or semi noisy environment. I guess this will have to do until a verified fix comes along our way.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] rcbear:
Update.

I send my unit for repair yesterday. I hope my baby will be back soon. :oops:

Damn.. Less then one month old, and already need to go to the hospital for service. :lol:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] joele:
I have a problem where if I am using the bluetooth headset and the PDA decides to shut the screen off, I can still hear the person on the other end but they can't hear me.... I didn't have this problem with the XDA II....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Zap Brannagan:
A friend just tried to call me 3 times and although the ringer worked there was no speaker volume whatsoever....

It's really starting to bug me......
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] mangal:
using xda iis same problem (cannot hear anything from other party when making/receiving calls) happens once in a day... really annoying, and soft-reset does the trick.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] nomadman:
I'm hoping to get some positive feed back with those who have upgrade to ROM 1.40.

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=20339&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Yung:
My MDA3 is customized with the Cingular 1.33 ROM with the camera CAB, and radio ROM 1.10. I deleted all carrier customizations, and did a hard reset. This time, I didn't install Vito Voicedialer after the hard reset. I haven't had the "no sound" in the receiver problem during a phone call for over 2 weeks now. I also bought the Jabra BT800, and it works fine too, even when the screen blanks out. I'm keeping my fingers crossed, hoping that the problem won't re-surface...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] rcbear:
Ok.. i got my unit back from XDA service center.

They check my unit and said that everything is alright.... :shock:

anyhow.. they said they reflash my rom.. and everything should be fine... WTF...

The Rom version is the same as when i got my phone... But the one interesting thing is.. they keep using Radio Rom 1.02.00 i just wonder if the other radio rom has the problem with my unit. Other then the radio rom. everything seem to upto date.

Rom 1.31.00

Radio 1.02.00

Ext Rom 1.31.920

BT 1.00.000 3500

Make you wonder... does it.. :roll:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] New XDA User:
Mine has not had the problem for about a week now, until today, after I used Bluetooth again with my TomTom navigator.

I avoided using the Bluetooth to see if it made any difference, and sure enough I didn't have one single failure on the sound at all since not suing it.

So as far as I'm now concerned, my own problem on this phone is definatley 100% linked to the Bluetooth. Of that I've no doubt now.

I hope Orange are able to do something as its really annoying, but meantime I think I'll just have to do a soft reset after I've used Bluetooth every time.

I just hope Orange will do something about it, I'm sure they must be aware as I've now seen the problem reported on several forums.

ROM version 1.31.00 WWE

Radio version 1.06.02
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] Yung:
It has been over 3 weeks now, and the problem has not returned. I upgraded to the 1.40 ROM and radio 1.12 two days ago, and I use the Jabra BT800 earpiece with it alot. The only real change from when the problem surfaced was that I deleted all extra software from the ext ROM, and did not load Vito Voicedialer and the PDF and PPT software in both ROM versions.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] edgariu:
I upgraded to the rom 1.40..

My "NO SOUND" problem seems to be in mediaplayer 10, i open it to play some songs and everything works fine, but when i close it and reopen again to play more mp3 the sound never works again.. not even in calls, nothing...

I do a softreset and the sound works again...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] BaGRoS:
I have so identically!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] edgariu:
The problem with WMP10 happens when i close and it's playing, if i pause/stop music then close WMP10 the device remains with sound :roll: