[Off-topic] freakboy13:
this

not this (youre not heliping dude)

and this (with a little editing sorry flygurl)

The problem is NOT OT.

There is NO problem with XDA.

The problem is us.

I personally have only been on the recieving end of bad modding once.

And it was actually an honest mistake

And the mod did appologize to me.

The problem is not OT or xda its US.

even the ones not doing any thing.

This thread since my last post seems to actually turned constructive and that just solidifies my point.

We are the problem, (users, mods, etc).

There is only one solution:

Like spike lee: Do the right thing.

You wanna see terrible ot modding?

Pm me for another forum I dont go to any more. Oh and same for the users as well.

What we have here is nothing that needs to be fixed with xda.

Nothing other than the technical updates.

Its us thats wrong. It a personality clash between each other.

I noticed one user in this thread who is active is still trolling in other threads...im not here in defense of mods but dont you think you and any one else (mods) included could set an example? At least until this thread is done/issue solved?

Im talking about a senior mem btw.

"Thats not me man ..I gotta be myself!! What abou teh lulz!?!"

Then its time to do the right thing and CHANGE. Ourselves. From both ends.

I dont think this issue and or bad feelings are going to just "blow over" .

Its not just users. Its not just mods.

Its all of us, myself included.

Maybe instead of closing down ot we just need to temp lock threads?

I would start with "funniest posts" and "mod all stars"(hey I love that thread but just to be fair ya dig?)

I have been trying soooo hard not to make lulz or flame comments and just report stuff for me its not easy and I has fails sometimes.

I know sounds hokey but change begins within yourself; mods, users etc.

At this point I think that whos ever fualt it is or percieved to be is now irrelevant.

And maybe even if you think it is..its time to let it go.

Mods- at this point you cant just say hey thats the way it is deal with it....cause no offense...thats just gonna inflame those who have issues with whats going on.

Users...im asking you to bury the hatchet try to be a better user and change your dispositions. This includes myself.

Use OT...dont abuse it.

Closing OT would be a disaster.

Imo that would create an incredible ripple effect that I dont think we want.

I think we all coukd use some personal reflection on this.

Even if you are right (mod or user) andvyou onow 100% that the other is wrong lets bring ot back to the good ole days. And cliche as it sounds its gotta start with you (whoever).

Why not pick a new mod (I recomend skinny) whos more stepped back and level headed yet still close to users.

To be "the new sheriff in town"?

Have a 0 tolerance for newbs and allow us senior members some time to change things around.

In fact I suggest all users start acting like mods and just report anyone out of line.

And unfortunately I agree with hav8ng stricter ban rules/enforcement for ot..BUT as others have mentioned...give a guy a chance. Especially senior members.

Spike Lees movie could really be our mantra for right now.

Its time to stop pointing fingers and just do the right thing.

Am I off base with this guys?

....mods, users...what say you?

sent from my T.A.R.T.I.S

(Time And Relative Tarts In Space)