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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] mindracing:
Check that it's not actually on. Pressing the power button for too long dims the screen and it looks like it's off.

This is a common mistake (that I've made too).

Reset and then just breifly press the power button to turn it on and off.Don't use a long press.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 General] yosemitesamiam:
Yes, I tried all that. I even went as far as to leave it plugged in and sit for several hours. Then tried again, and it was the same thing. Maybe I shouldn't have the wall charger plugged in before I plug in the phone? Phone first, then wall maybe? I dunno...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
so a month into owning the phone and I'm already starting to notice the notification bar burning in...on white screens,when in landscape, where the bar would be is a lighter color than the rest...especially when on a white screen like on the tapatalk app or web browser. if you use an LCD checker app you can see it most noticeably on gray and blue. man, only a month,AND I run the transparent notification bar mod and this damn thing has already burned in? ridiculous. I don't even thing my s3 burned in that quicky. starting to give me a bad taste of my gnex again....ugh lol. but yeah anyone else noticing yet? this is one of the reasons I hate amoled screens... i love slcd much more, but it's like my dna has a single dead pixel, but my s4 is getting burn in...

i swear, when it comes to electronics, i can never win.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ChugJugThug:
wow that's really weird...i have no such problem, and i've had the phone since the day it came out. I'm also using a transparent status bar. Really strange. I've seen some people get discoloration if the phone heats up too much with the screen on. That might be a possibility, but other than that i'm not sure what it could be.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brizey:
Just checked mine...nothing. I use a transparent bar, too. Do you keep the brightness cranked? This is the first android device I have had with s screen good enough to leave it on auto.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
nah, 40 percent pretty much all the time. I can't remember the last time I used higher than that. and in the mornings I use 0 percent. you have to look really close to see it.. it hasn't gotten BAD yet, but further usage i could see it getting bad. I notice the smallest things, and unfortunately I always notice anything visual since I have perfect vision lol sometimes it sucks. however I just reverted back to the stock bar color of gray.. i'm not gonna use transparent anymore because if it's gray in apps, it means it's lighting up those pixels.. and over time that should help the screen area there because it's actually being used all the time instead of just some of the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] williamweaver:
That sucks man. I've never had a mobile device that ever showed any signs of burn in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
man you must have never owned a Galaxy nexus then hahaha literally the worst screen of any phone ever. besides the yellow tint and banding issues, the burn in is awful. the screen on my LG env touch was better than a gnex. hahaha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] williamweaver:
Nope I've owned a Droid Incredible, RAZR Maxx, S3, and now I'm currently using an S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
my OG inc actually began to get status bar burn in...which was surprising because HTC used the gray, not black, for theirs. it burned in the actual clock though. i think that older AMOLED tech was more prone to burnin than the current stuff, though. but still, kinda sucks to see starting already. i'm not too worried, though, because i go throguh phones like crazy lol..planning on either the One or the DNA2 whenever they come out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
Pretty crappy how an lcd screen can have this happen to it.

Sent from my rooted S4 blessed with CleanROM 1.6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] WizeGuyDezignz:
This isn't a LCD screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
I know but it is similar. Am image should not burn into it

Sent from my rooted S4 blessed with CleanROM 1.6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
AMOLED has always had burn in issues, though. i've never seen an LCD with burn in issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
presenting.. the world's worst screen ever! courtesy of samsung and their lovely galaxy nexus. lol i bought this thing used for 250 last summer.. used it daily for like a month, then got an s3. the screen is so bad and so yellow on this thing with so much banding and burn in and i never even turn it on anymore.. and i failed at selling it on swappa lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
You think maybe it's something to do with the heat in the upper area of the s4?

Sent from my rooted S4 blessed with CleanROM 1.6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
no to be honest, i think it's bc i used the transparent status bar mod, which made the bar black in every single app....black=no pixels on=the rest of the screen wears out evenly EXCEPT that area, which now shows as a blue hue. notice my nexus above..look at where the onscreen buttons are. its as if that's what the screen looked like when brand new, and the rest has degraded except that part.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
That Sucks. I havent seen anything on my S4 either and im usually 3-5 hours on screen time a day. I use nova launcher prime and have the notification bar set to transparent and nothing i put it on full brightness and white screen to double check. I do vary the screen brightness a lot and prolly average higher then 50% brightness.

I will say that in reviews and such that brought up potential burn in issues with the S4 that the new Super Amoled screens are supposed to protect against burn in much better then previous Amoled screens. I would see if maybe its just a bad screen and see if they will swap it. I mean this phone is barely 2 months old.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] high kick:
my galaxy nexus had burn in issues too (the "keyboard" could be seen regardless of what app or screen i was on), so i'm worried it might happen with my s4. luckily, nothing yet. i'm crossing my fingers though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
ahh so you know exactly where I'm coming from. good. lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
Wow that sucks. I had no idea that galaxy nexus burn in could be that bad.

I just sold mine and checked before hand to make sure there was no burn in. I had it for a year and a half and used it a lot so I guess burn in just depends on each device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] theresin:
Huh, that's really interesting. I've had several Sammy devices and have never had that issue. (charge, tab 7.0, tab2 10", S3, S4) In fact...they've all been heavily used as well, especially my OG Galaxy Tab 7.0 which is currently wall mounted in my kitchen and running almost 24/7. In almost thinking it has to be heat related?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
my nexus never got hot at all.. probably because the thing barely had a signal :P lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Be careful! There are still legions of Nexus true believers in our midst:

The Nexus has the best radio reception ever.

We don't need no stinkin' sd. The cloud is our friend.

The Nexus never gets hot.

Best display EVER.

Fixed navigation bars on small displays are cool.

Though paraphrasing for efficiency, the points above are true to the believers. The new device pixie dust was strong with that one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mutelight:
I haven't noticed this at all and my eyes are very sensitive.

Is what you see on your screen burn-in or is it image retention.

AMOLED, LCD, and Plasma are all susceptible to both, the only difference being image retention is temporary and when the image on the screen has been changed enough, it goes away.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
i said it from its release.. nexus fan boys were worse than apple fan boys.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Cruiserdude:
Well those Tabs are all LCD. That being said, I did notice a bit of yellowing on the S3 I had for almost a year before I got it replaced due to headphone jack issues, but still no burn in. I wouldn't even call it yellowing as much as it just looked like the color temperature was a bit warm for my tastes compared to the replacement I got.

But for sure, if you're already seeing issues with either burn in or yellowing, get it replaced now when you'll still get a new one in return. I guarantee you they can't all be like that with everything Samsung has riding on this phone. Make sure it is actually burn in though and not just image retention. Use a screen test app and leave it on the white for a few minutes, and if it's still there, try some full screen video from your app of choice and look at it again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shonen1:
the same thing happened to me, except i have been woring out on sunlight all day, for a few days in a row so my brightness would always had to have been set up to 100%

i thought it was just something i havent noticed earlier, but now i guess it is a problem...:confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Averix:
I've had mine since launch, usually keep the brightness around 75% or 100% if outside. I tried multiple background shades and I don't see any burn in up there. One thing I don't do is keep it awake at night like an alarm clock. The phone's screen is off if I'm not actively engaging with it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
eh i'm not going to bother with getting it replaced because a.) i'm well over the 15 day return limit, b.) i don't do insurance (since i have like 2384398 other phones lol) and c.) i bought it full price off contract through my boss and i'm not gonna put him through the BS of trying to send it back to get another one. it's not bad at all, and i've noticed the hue going away more now that i'm using the stock gray status bar. like i said, i HARDLY noticed it, but i'm really bad when it comes to noticing small things..i have 1 dead pixel on my DNA out of all 441 ppi lol and i see it every damn time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] FlexoFlexington:
I use my phones pretty heavily, just got the S4 yesterday but I came from a galaxy nexus and never experienced burnin there. So maybe my usage makes me safe? *crosses fingers*
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kdogg78:
I am coming from the GN as well and I am shocked at that burn in. I used mine pretty heavily for over a year and the screen has zero burn in. I have always ran CM and Carbon with the transparent nav bar and modded nav buttons. hell i didnt think it was that bad of a phone aside from the reception issues.

Do you game with your phone? leave it on like an alarm clock all night? leave the screen on when charging? can you describe you usage?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
no, i don't ever game, i never leave it on..i always shut the screen off when i'm done.

however, i can't say that about the previous owner as i didn't know his habits...but i didn't notice how bad the screen was when i bought it. either his usage, or mine, made it worse, but idk.

this is also a launch day gnex, btw. so the dec 2011 ones...and those first batches were awful and had the yellow screen tint with verizon. like i siad, i got it used off craigslist for 250 last summer just to mess around with antoher phone. but yeah, i can't use that thing anymore. i'm hanging on to it though incase ym mom ever decides she watns a smartphone..shes used to her nexus 7, so this would be exactly the same, but in phone form.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrlaigle:
What reception issues? :|
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
lololololol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] beanfield:
And to think...if it ever does happen to my phone I probably never would have noticed it if I hadn't read this thread. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jova33:
I've read more than one post about S4 screen burn in. I never noticed it on my GNex until I got a transparent navbar and noticed the wallpaper was a different color/shade where the navbar was.

I just ordered my S4 yesterday too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackhand1001:
My galaxy nexus isn't anything like that. There are phones with way worse screens as well. The s4s screen is clearly better but the galaxy nexus screen wasn't bad. Your may have been but they weren't all like that.

If the s4 had an unlocked bootloader on verizon it would be the perfect phone for me but I am not interested in the cat and mouse game of updates breaking root and the custom ROMs. I wish Verizon would stop being so closed to unlocked bootloaders.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] licwid:
Son of a ... Why did I read this thread? I doubt I would of noticed this issue for quite some time if I wasn't looking for it?

I am running stock everything and the burn in is there. I do run high brightness settings for 2-3 hours a day so I can see the screen with my sunglasses on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackhand1001:
Just don't let it bother you. It doesn't really effect everyday usage. Remember that first and foremost its a smartphone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
I wonder how the transparent status bar will effect the burn in? In the new update
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
my theory is this.... transparent status bar on the launcher is fine.. no burn in because that screen is being used. however transparent mod makes the status bar black in every other app.. therefore it will burn in. it's not really burn in as much as degradation from it not being used... so i switched back to the stock gray one, because samsung specifically changed from black to gray bc they knew their status bars on black were burning in. I'm still noticing the burn in.. honestly only really on the Tapatalk app.. and when I go landscape. so idk if it'll make it better but from the looks of it, having gray doesn't make it degrade any less.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackhand1001:
Taptalk needs to add a true black theme already. I made one for the xda premium app using apktool which is tapatalk based.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
yeah,..i used dark theme, and noticed the burn in even worse hahaha so i was like NOPE, back to light!

eh like i said, it doens't bother me that much. besides, in a few months i'll be getting a DNA2 or the ONe or something lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Crooke356:
Really wish I hadn't come across this thread. Now it's gonna drive me nuts! I have it as well and I hide my status bar most the time. On Google edition I use Nova to hide it so it's only hidden on the home screen but on AOSP it's hidden all the time. Really surprised it's already burning in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
No navigation bar burn in here. Yay. Kinda was scared to check though haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
nav bar? you using an aosp rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Oops meant notification bar. It seems your mod is what caused the burn in
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
lol yeah.. but i took that mod off, did stock gray, and then i noticed it seemed to get worse.. so i said f it.. back to transparent and black. whatever.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fadeout:
My Gnex had horrible burn in from the nav bar and the soft keys on the bottom, just like the one above. My first S4 had noticeable white lines running horizontally through it and Vz actually replaced it with a new phone bc it was within the 14 days. This one I run hidden/transparent nav bar and auto brightness. To alleviate keyboard burn in I swap from a white themed keyboard to a grey one every other few days. I don't know if it helps but it's something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CC268:
how can you tell if you have burn in?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
I noticed it by going into the Tapatalk beta app and going landscape.. the left side of the screen, where the bar would be, has a bluish tint to it and you can see a straight line where the tint ends.. which is where the bar is.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CC268:
gotcha....i don't want to check it hahaha....I run my screen on auto all the time so hopefully it hasn't happened. What is the best way to eliminate that? Running a transparent status bar?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
idk, i was running transparent for most of the life of the phone and i noticed it bc its black in all apps..so i figured by it being black, that was the issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mettee:
I have not noticed this on my phone yet, I suppose if it happens it would be a warranty issue. Maybe reason to get the 32gb version :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brizey:
Still nothing...But I usually run a transparent status bar.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dcmarch:
No burn in for me

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] igacek:
No burn-in here. I have a live wallpaper (the phase beam-like one that has different themes from Play store) and a transparent notification bar, so that may help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Painterface:
I've had mine for almost two months and no burn-in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
No burn-in
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rednoved:
No burn in yet. I've had it since the morning it was released. Has anyone tried to burn in a blank image over night to correct the issue? That's how I always removed burn in from other screens. I'm pretty sure there is an app that will do it for you also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mcsdoode:
No burn in here,luckily. Running stock, touchwiz notification bar.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
I'm starting to notice mine more and more by the day... is there a way to hide the status bar on stock touch wiz?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] evanhumanist:
Have had mine for over about 2 months, haven't noticed anything yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Sounds defective to me, I've had mine since release and no issues
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Ok I see it its real real vague... If you use the stock browser and go to google.com expand it till its all white and turn the phone to landscape look where the notification bar was
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
it's not a defect, it's just how amoled is. I guess their newest screens still can't overcome simple stupid screen degradation. this is why I stick to LCD.. it has so many advantages over amoled.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dobo84:
Yeah its funny you mention that my razr hd and my razr all have the slightest of burn in. My next device will not ve amoled but hopefully a new lcd like the ones screen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] socom36252:
I was at best buy and they had the folio case thing with the open part for clock and notifications. I opened the case and the worst burn in I've ever seen. So I was like not getting that. But yea now I'm worried its gonna happen to me. Haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bjbinc:
ok...now I see it :( just barely, but I've only had my phone about a week and a half. Has anyone tried this app? Could it work?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fw.apps.burninsaviorfree&hl=en

FYI...my status bar is totally black, so I'm sure that makes it worse than the stock TouchWiz statusbar.

(I never would have noticed it without seeing this thread...thanks a lot :rolleyes:)

EDIT:

This app does seem to work...I let it run a little over an hour and can already see a slight improvement. I think I'll look at my screen time every night and let this app run a similar amount of time while i'm asleep.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
very nice find. I'll check it out. in the mean time I've changed to a gray status bar to get some color up there.. it's a light gray and semi transparent on the launcher so i think it may help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] orangechoochoo:
Carbon rom has the autohide notification bar, it shows up if you swipe down from the top or if a new notification appears. It is hidden in all apps.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] imablackhat:
People with image burn. Do you use auto brightness? Because I do. And I can't find any image burn. And I've had this since release.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Nah I don't use Auto brightness. I keep my screen at 20-25% unless i need it and i use transparent notification bar. No burn in yet and my screen on time is usually 3 hours + a day everyday and i got my phone on launch day (May 23rd). I did know about burn-in as the girl on youtube (Erica Griffin) that does all the phone reviews, mentioned the burn in on the amoled screens.

Also, never use your phone as your night stand clock where it's on all night, not that anyone should need a reminder of that but just in case.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
Maybe people with burn just leave the screen on too long? :confused: I have never had a burn in issues with any phone. Only issues Ive had within the last few years was my moto phones and stuck pixels.

I have not seen any problems with mine. I came from a Droid Charge, then Bionic (horrible overall), Moto Razor, Gnex and never had any issues with any phone (yes I know not all AMOLED). Screen is always the majority of my battery killer so I know its on a lot, but I don't know if other experiencing it are running abnormally long screen times?

Anyone have pics or can u capture a pic of the burn in?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bjbinc:
Mine would never show up in a pic...it was too faint. Its gone now after running that app over night that I posted above. I only could see it with a screen tester with a completely white BG and brightness up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
Certain apps don't use the status bar. So just play more games
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bos1:
I noticed the same thing at Best Buy. It was really bad, like someone had scribbled on the screen with a brown magic marker. I was about to order the dev edition, but seeing that made me reconsider. I'm amazed there isn't a huge uproar over this - maybe nobody uses the flipcovers with the clock cutout? I guess statusbar burn wouldn't be as noticeable since it's on the edge, but the clock burn is right in the middle of the screen and it looks awful.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
FYI a black status bar would actually be better for avoiding burn-in on the GS4 than any shade of grey. The display on the GS4 is the first AMOLED display to ACTUALLY turn off the pixels when displaying black. On all previous amoled displays, black would actually be the darkest shade of grey the display could possibly produce, which is why you could get burn in as the pixels were still powered.

Evidence of this is the purple smearing effect, due to the green pixels being slower than the red and blue pixels to turn on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Divine_Madcat:
Yes and no - the problem is still there Meta, but it is different. With the bar being black, it means the pixels don't wear at all. Thus, the rest of the screen will wear out, and the bar will show up brighter.

Perhaps you can think of it as a reverse burn-in. Either way, with the bar being either always on or always off, it will create a row of pixels that are a different shade from the rest of the screen...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
exactly..which is why i started to refer to it as screen degredation. by having it black, and not having pixels on, they're not wearing like the rest of the screen, which makes the status bar area look brighter than the rest of the screen, like you explained.

i'm still using a bright gray status bar thats semi transparent on the launcher, but i would probably have to keep using it for months for everything to wear evenly...but i think by having it black from transparent bar from the start that my screen is already worn unevenly, which will cause permanent burn in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
I feel like you guys are really overestimating the rate of overall amoled degradation here. Regardless I can't see how off could possibly be worse than any static color.

Anyway, the best method would probably be a 100% transparent notification bar. That way you get color on the homescreen and black in apps.