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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
It appears that all of the US cell providers are going this route. Except for T-Mobile, I am hoping they will hold out to attract everyone the others piss off.

As long as you do not take the OTA you can flash anything all day long (anything you should be flashing). OTA takers, New phones, Repair / replacements are do for a screwing though (until another root method is established). And then, another way around the bootloader will have to be established.

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X-posed (for the most part) should still be working as well, but it depends on how many system files were changed in the full OTA. We will see soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] linuxthinker:
I added instructions here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43428704&postcount=133 to disable the updaters from the commandline.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] niceppl:
... the canadian i337m is fully working with all att freq and an unlocked bootloader. Sale for 600 also new google edition...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mbonus:
I have quoted jcase's post from the S4 Active root bounty thread. If someone needs mf3 root maybe they should contact the original researcher of this exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RockRatt:
What firmware is/was on your phone when it arrived/you bought it? I just ordered mine today, so if it comes with this new firmware I am going to have to send it right back. Sh×t I waited to long to buy it. It should be here by Thursday and if it has the previous version of firmware the FIRST TIME I turn it on will be to root and ROM it. Please let me know which firmware you had when you first opened box. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ronj1986:
Anyone who has performed the update try to Odin back to MDL?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] burhanistan:
Android wasn't intended to be "open source" so end user consumers could play with their phones, I think. It's open source for carriers and manufacturers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
I'm pretty sure the fact that Google releases the OS source code makes that pretty much open source, take a look at the neighbors grass before you complain, Android is the ONLY platform worth talking about you can have custom roms. Besides, don't generalise the fact American Carriers screw their clients that's it's a general rule in the world. Us Canadians don't have these problems, our carriers don't lock our bootloaders, they also don't disable features like tethering, they dont throttle us and they also let us carrier unlock our phones once we paid our dues. So once again, the "American situation" is not a general one in Android OS
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Android is, in fact, open source. However, once the manufacturers get ahold of it and put their code and technology into it, it becomes proprietary. You all agree to this when you but a device or download anything from manufacturers. If you get Android code directly from Google, and you agree to the open license agreement, you can do what you want with it (within the open license guidelines). If you get Android from a phone manufacturer or off of a phone, it is considered copyrighted material. But, as we can see here at XDA, it is all kind of a "debatable" area as to when the manufacturers rights end and the end Android users rights begin. That is one reason (along with security) that carriers are starting to lock the bootloaders. To date, voiding warranties due to TOS infringements has been the manufacturer's / carrier's main method of enforcing copyright issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] WoodburyMan:
Off Topic?? This is about the update not about "Open platform"

Anyhoo. Was able to flash *JUST* the AMF3 modem only. Running CM10.1 fine. TWRP works, everythings fine. So long as you just update the modem/baseband only.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ksj0823:
well I didn't try using odin to flash back to mdl yet. I think one of my friend did that today. and he used odin to flash back to mdl twice. first time not working. second time he reset to factory and then used odin. I think he just back to mdl.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
It's possible. Technically it should work, but everybody that tried failed.

I found this walkthrough, i used it on my S3 and it worked, maybe somebody wants to try it on their S4?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chocodough:
My basic advise is either try out the GE rom to see if you like Google's way, or put on GoldenEye if you really want that TW experience with the lastest Samsung ROM.

I just wish buying the GE Phones weren't so darn expensive, then we wouldn't have to worry about this crap.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] alphadog00:
Question - i have been absent from Samsung devices for a while - what is the eventual upgrade path for those that are rooted with stock TW ROM and Custom recovery (CWM)?

Is it likely that a Dev will create a flashable zip with the good stuff? Seems hard to do considering how many changes are in the update. Or will we most likely have to unroot and remove CWM, update and then re-root - when a new exploit is found?

How did this generally work for the S3?

Thanks for any explanations.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
Thread cleaned

Please keep all drama in PMs

As respect is a rule please respect all members

If you do not like someone's post, ignore it, move on

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raitchison:
Clever but remember you are competing with the Google Edition, so keep it $10 less than that :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aqua1ung:
I imagine you're talking about the (full) ROM, not just about the modem, are you? Myself I am just looking into updating just my modem. Would that be safe?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] norbarb:
Yes it i i just did but don't see any diffrence with LTE speed in chicagoland.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
you can use goldeneye rom which is based off international ROM and has updates as soon as hey are out, you dont have to wait a few months for the carriers here
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RockRatt:
Okay to quote myself. My new S4 came in today and it had MDL? on it and NOT the newest update. Thank Goodness.

So before I plugged in the new sim card or even connected to wifi I checked which firmware version. JUST IN CASE I was sending it back immediately.

Next I used motochopper then installed twrp. Then flashed ShoStock. So I have some more reading to do to MAKE SURE I do not get the update,though I am guessing since I am rooted and not official rom it wont download and install. But that is where reading will come in so I KNOW...

So wanted to get this out there that AS OF RIGHT NOW the stock ATT has at their Dallas facility is on the MDL? firmware still and they havent updated it yet.

Sent from My Spiderman Themed I747
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cowmixtoo:
Ok.. who is working on the new rooting exploit and how can I help?

I'll pretty do whatever it takes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cegna09:
The phones you order are just sitting in a warehouse. They are not going to go out of their way to open each one and update to the new firmware before shipping them out. Just doesn't make sense. It's a safe bet that ordering one will come with the old software and then promp an update when activated. Just need to catch it before it updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
1. Pop out sim and do not connect to Wifi

2. Run exploit and download and install custom kernel and rom

3. never worry about it again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] nakedninja42:
Great to see that you were able to keep your phone :good:. I enjoyed your themes on the S2 :highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cowmixtoo:
I *just* got my phone. Can I bring it back to AT&T and say I want a new color?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I'm guessing it was updated? If you go in to get a new color and you are within 14 days of your purchase it will cost 35 dollars for restocking fee.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] flinttownbrown:
If you have "WiFi problems" and are within 14 days you can take it in and exchange it for an identical one for free...

Just a reminder, fraud is a crime, and crime is bad, mmmkay?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
It does block LOKI and it does blow a Qfuse increasing the bootloader revision counter from 0x01 to 0x02 preventing you from downgrading aboot and restoring the exploit. In other words, if you updated, you can forget about using LOKI ever again on your phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
Welcome to our(Active Users) world

Time for LOKI 2.0 [MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] ?? One can only dream:fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eccentrikit:
How would one stop the update? these updates seem to be forced overnight... however for some reason my phone always fails on OTA so I'm somehow safe and still on the original build...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I would pop out the sim, turn off wifi run the root and recovery and either run a custom rom like cleanrom, mintjelly or so on. Or uninstall or freeze AT&T's updating apks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cowmixtoo:
The irony is that compared to my Galaxy Nexus, the wifi IS blowing on certain APs.

I need to compare to different S4s.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
The problem now is this, Loki was just simply a simple exploit. Easy to patch and easy to patch against future attempts by adjusting the boot chain so that it can't happen again. Loki is now officially snuffed for coming S4 users.

Honestly I do think Dan has something up his sleeve, he knows darn well this was bound to happen, but the community give him **** for not truly unlocking the bootloader which is quite frankly disgusting and unfair. Once people got what they wanted the burned him anyways... I wouldn't blame him if he just dangled an unlock over our head and never released it to show what happens when you bite the hand that feeds.

Now in reality Dan is probably a much better human being then that and ultimately probably hasn't found a way to exploit the S4 any further, so now it's pretty much gonna be a bunch of Devs trying to hit this thing from every angle and pray a leak comes along.

Dream on brother :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slavisha:
I am thinking to do the exact same thing tomorrow.

I got my phone 5 days ago and $35 feel i can live with that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
MF3 'update' is basically cutting the balls off the device. not acceptable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
True, but 95% or more of the people that buy and use this phone don't care about bootloaders, ROMs, custom recoveries, etc... They just want to turn the phone on and use it. They don't even care how it works, just that it does work and AT&T / Verizon knows this. Actually probably most of the people that come to XDA just want a quick way to add cool options to their phone. They don't read or even care to understand what is going on as long as they get what they want. So basically, Samsung / AT&T could care less what we think about what thy do. But I agree with you, it does suck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] oak:
Well said. :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
problem there is this update does not allow any real customization so again i say it cuts off the balls of android

thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
It's not about customization for AT&T, it's about updating the functionality (firmware) and patching up security flaws. What we see as exploits, Samsung and AT&T see as security flaws. So this update wasn't officially about adding customization (that's what XDA is for), this update is about enhancing existing software and closing security flaws, Unfortunately, that makes it harder for the Devs here at XDA to do their thing. And every official update from here on out will be the same. Like I said, I agree with you, for us it does suck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
Any defects that you can find? If you say there is a defect it is free
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mukzer0:
where's the best place to watch for an exploit as soon as its available?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
i understand that; we are on the same page. its a shame att/samsung didnt allow an 'open' version (ie GE version) at launch; i and many more would have opted for that instead of the standard S4.

the whole of the USA market is going the same route; locked in/locked down. its a shame really; the devs here do incredible things with incredible hardware. yes TW is a needless layer, but carrier bloat is, imo, such a huge waste that very few people use or want. anyways, thats all i have to say.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
XDA...right here in the AT&T sub forums. Because IF another exploit is found, who knows exactly where it will come from and this is the best place for information from everywhere to funnel into.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] clintre:
Just got mine rooted and froze the 3 apps so that the update can't happen. I generally wait a little while before rooting my new phones, but desperate times...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slavisha:
I guess this is one of those things that everything works fine lol.

I wish i can just walk in and say well its defected by latest update. I cant root anymore LOL.

:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
here is hot to ota and keep root

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2360494
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
Still lose Loki which would be a deal breaker for me if I had the S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
Loki is for bypassing the locked boot loader. If you are on a custom recovery and/or custom ROM, the OTA really isn't for you anyway...

Anyone who is on the stock ROM and just rooted, this method is ideal.

A lot of people like the stock tw feel but like greater ability to customize than stock. This is for them.

SGS4 non stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Sophos1:
How to Tell

Hey all,

Im looking at trading a guy my HTC One for an S4.....When I meet him is there a quick way I can tell whether or not he has accepted the latest OTA?

Also, if he has, you think it should be a dealbreaker? Some genius developer is bound to find a way around this issue right?

TIA,

Cheers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Should've made a thread in Q&A ;)

But simply put, yes, all you need to is go to Settings, the More tab and then click About device at the bottom and simply look at the Baseband verison. If it ends in MF3, it's been updated.

As for being a deal breaker? That's your call. There is absolutely no way to tell when and IF future S4's will be rootable, and even more, unlock-able for custom recoveries and ROMs.

I would just inform the guy before you even meet him that this might be a deal breaker for you. If the person is legit they will understand and you may even stop them from updating thinking it might help you out.

Anyways just please ask in the Q&A next time :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Settings < More < About Phone will tell you what the phones firmware / baseband is.

Nobody knows if another Root and recovery or bootloader unlock will be found.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I actually think the update that they pushed did a lot of good to how the phone functions. I know it locked it down from rooting but it improved the overall use. Sooner or later this update will be rooted though also.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Don't get your hopes up too much. Dan has delved deep into this device along with Adam and they will tell you it's pretty much locked tight. We may very well need a leak by this point, which can be tomorrow or never :angel:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mbonus:
This^ and there is no leak coming anytime soon if I read the chat room right
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] orlandoxpolice:
With the popularity of this phone I am betting it'll leak eventually.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I'll admit I think it has to leak eventually too, but It's a shame it might come to a leak. It's cooler when a true bootloader unlock exploit is found, that's when you know heart went into it :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
As long as you have really great people working on it there will surely be a root method. Everyone thought the same thing as jail breaking for iPhone then the evasi0n team came along and found an exploit and therefore jail breaking was possible again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
Since when has anandroid phone lost any root ability? They might put a few sticks in our wheels but they will never stop us
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] highaltitude:
Not necessarily, I have that baseband on my phone because I flashed a modem .zip of the baseband.

Sent from my GT-I9505 converted SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
You know I never thought of that and so did I. Thanks for the correction!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] highaltitude:
The build number would probably give it away though

Sent from my GT-I9505 converted SGH-I337
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
(Note: The Screenshots are from the 2.6.32.61-nAa-jb-06 kernel based version)

Hey, Folks!

Here is my new ROM: Gingeclair!

It is, in fact, based on my very first attempt on a ROM. Wanting to make the transition from stock to custom ROM as easy as possible

and thus creating a ROM very similar in style and feel to stock, I started working on it, also inspired by BPaul´s SonyStyle...

Now, with slightly more knowledge about android :D , I have been optimizing it for the best performance.

IMPORTANT:

It actually comes in two versions: One compatible with the 2.6.32.61-nAa-jb-06 kernel, and one compatible with the old nAa-14 kernel.

Even more

IMPORTANT

I haven´t had time to test the 2.6.32.61-nAa-jb-06 compatible ROM, all I know is that it boots up, has lots of RAM and a working

Screenshot option ;) , so USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!

FEATURES

-built from latest sources

-many, many stock apps

-stock Theme (thanks to BPaul)

-fast and smooth

-partially odexed

-loads of RAM

-nearly 170 mb free on /data partition

Installation:

-Download a kernel (either nAa-06 or nAa-14)

-Download the compatible ROM on to your sd

-In CWM, make a full wipe

-Flash the kernel

-Flash the Rom

-Reboot
​

DOWNLOADS:

v0.0.1 (2.6.29.6-nAa-14)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/wg0pp1d643ym54c/Gingeclair_nAa-14_0.0.1.zip

v0.0.1 (2.6.32.61-nAa-jb-06)

http://www.mediafire.com/download/e2c390caxpkc393/Gingeclair_nAa-06_1.0.0.zip

(Oh, sh**... Almost forgot the credits)

FOR EVERYONE WHO CAN´T SEE THE SCREENSHOTS:

http://xdaforums.com/album.php?albumid=9732
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Emperor.dk:
This ROM I just have to try out :good:

I'm building a Xperia Eclair Retro theme with full stock-feel (styles and all PNG's incl some I hade to edit my self). I will send you my build-folders when I'm done for full hard-theming :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Crazy Seed:
Bro just tested on naa-14 your rom, sorry to say it but it's a little bit slower than other roms and very lagy specially on the Setup Wizard :S, and a bug: when typing an sms, if we go to change the language/multitap option the keyboard force close :S.

Ps: how can i keep 'only' the color of the keyboard Eclair blue if using ICS/JB themes?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
Did you make a full wipe, etc.?

Silly question, but you did flash the right kernel?

As the 8th screenshot proves (smartassh3 governour), the ROM should work, it did for me, as said.

[MENTION=5066472]Crazy Seed[/MENTION]: If only the setup Wizard is laggy, it shouldn´t really matter. Any other significant lags?
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Crazy Seed:
Just saw that lag for now, the other lag was only in the beginning 'rom should be freshing up a bit since it just got installed' xD. But the keyboard bug is there bro.

Ps: do you know how can i increase the brightness of the phone in GB Roms?, Eclair's brightness is 2x stronger than Gb Roms :(
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
There is a way to manually re-write the brightness settings somewhere in the system partition, but I can´t remember it right now...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] SmG67:
Is it just me? I can't see any screenshots...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
Right at the top...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] SmG67:
I know they should be there, and when i use thread-tools to show the printable version i see the links too, but they open up to a picture the size of one pixel... Not sure what is going on there...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Emperor.dk:
same here
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Crazy Seed:
I don't know 2 that brightness thing but thats ok xD. Well just one more thing is this you should know xD, how to increase volume on the Speakers of the phone? i think it's on the Audio-Filter file but i dont wanna mess up things so i prefer to ask first xD.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] gunjarya:
I tried to install your rom again doing a SEUS and then flashing the latest nAa-06 kernel and then wipe /system, /sd-ext, /data, /dalvik cache, /cahe etc. i even downloaded your rom once more just incase there was issue with earlier install. still same problem, it stops in bootanimation..i kept it that way for 10 mins.

hope you have not mistakenly named your roms incorrectly, meaning what is for nAa-14 in the filename is for nAa-06 :)

came back to your nAa-14 rom, used it for 8 hrs yesterday haven't found any bug yet..will report as i find one..thanks for good work...
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
Try this Link:

http://xdaforums.com/album.php?albumid=9732
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Emperor.dk:
Sweet themed ROM and nice app-collection

Sweet themed ROM and nice app-collection. I have allways had a copy of Peggle om my phone (it works on GB right out of the stock ROM).

Missing apps

RecentCalls.apk (from stock-ROM should work on GB)

MimmiParts.apk

widgettimer.apk (not from stock, but a nice semc-app)

Errors

FM-radio FC

WidgetFavouritePeople has LDPI-error. Grab my fixed one here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2150905

Lockscreen

I will compile Eclair lockscreen for this ROM when I get home from work today ( all PNGs are ready :laugh: )

EDIT: Messed up the XML.... not ready today :(
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Emperor.dk:
I'm almost there with the lockscreen

Top row is my mod for GDX30 (making it for Gingeclair 1.0.0 later too, haha - incl all build-files in a zip for you all), bottom row is stock screenshots from my wifes stock Eclair
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Emperor.dk:
Xperia Eclair Lockscreen

Here is the result so far.

It's made up from the original keyguard_screen_tab_unlock.xml from stock framework-res.apk with all the CM7 features and of course has my advanced Xperia S Lockscreen feature with swipe to media player. I havn't edited the landscape-lockscreen yet.

Moved the carrier label to the bottom

Moved alarm label to top in front of battery icon

Resized clock and date

Edited a new calendar icon with Eclair-look (based on a PNG found in the stock SemcCalendar.apk)

Just saw the AM text... LOL... will fix it soon.

Here are the build-files http://www.mediafire.com/?wcaep2aooq20mpt

It's not a flashable zip, just the package with all files and stuff neded to build the lockscreen.
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
OK, people, have done my homework and have a working nAa-06 compatible version on my phone right know... Will upload this evening/tomorrow (once I get home ;) ).

To all, please thank [MENTION=4191307]Emperor.dk[/MENTION] for his work and support, as I will use it in my next version (coming approx. In 7 days)!
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] gunjarya:
We are waiting :)
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] Kilroy.:
Uploading!

http://www.mediafire.com/download/e2c390caxpkc393/Gingeclair_nAa-06_1.0.0.zip
[Sony Ericsson XPERIA X10 Mini] mclarenmercedes:
the rom is not smooth and the default keyboard fcs a lot!!!!!!