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[HTC One SV] MachiavelliBs:
Well all is in the hands of HTC now , there are drivers for MSM8960 and android 4.3 officially .Even HTC Desire 300 got 4.2.2 lol . And Desire 300 is with old chipset like on Desire X (if i am correct in this). There is no reason that we cant get 4.3 at least ... But this is HTC . I love them phones and i do use HTC since 2010 , i was with desire , desire s , desire hd , sensation , sensation xe even one wildfire(like second phone) ... If we dont get at least one more update i will just change the brand . I am sick of тhem policy for updates , rly ! Even the old Iphones 4 still got updates . If they dont give us at least 4.3 , honest i will not buy me any more HTC device . Btw 4.2.2 working fine on my phone only when i got incoming call the ringtones are somehow little quet, and the camera was better with 4.1 ....
[HTC One SV] :
I like HTC devices, despite that they can be difficult to hand out a future OS for some of their devices and as well be just as quick to drop support for their phones too. But the sense feel is nice in my opinion. Would love to see CM on this phone, but I enjoy sense. I have had my hands on other devices like the S4 for example, and Nexus (different variety of models), but I still like HTC lol. Ultimately, android wouldnt be where it is today if it honestly weren't for devs bringing out open source work and companies like HTC as well as others deciding to adopt these ideas to their liking and specifications. In short words, we need more devs lol. To be a dev you just need the free time and the will to learn. There is so much open source floating around it would just require going over them and understanding how they function then trying out your own ideas to better understand how it all works. Overtime, you learn like a baby gradually learns to roll, crawl, then walk :)
[HTC One SV] MachiavelliBs:
I like them too , i got 2 more phones with IOS and Androind . I prefer HTC and i rly like this devices(and i still use HTC for primary phone ;) ) , but this policy for the updates is just terrible. I am reading rumors for S3 mini will get 4.4 and we cant to get 4.3 ... Well i dont like things like this , everybody else can do something for the custumers only HTC cant as usual . They dont got problem to take our money , but they got problem to supporting the devices for at least year and half . What is the problem they to give 3 big updates for the devices ? I saw something in the htc site and they try to make us think the chipset devs will cut the devices becouse of the drivers , yes but is not true becouse there are brands like asus , samsung and sony who use similar chipsets and them devices got updates ... And i can see only me is who thinking like this here. Is a long theme and i prefer to not talk for this here , becouse will look like spam. Anyway i do like One SV , but if we not get one more update from HTC i will not buy me another device from this brand .
[HTC One SV] :
Hm...asked about 4.4. ;)
[HTC One SV] :
4.4 hahaha. You trying to have me spit my coffee out of my nose!
[HTC One SV] :
They said "yet". Lets pray they do skip 4.3 and release 4.4 :)
[HTC One SV] :
I got a feeling that 4.2 is all we will see. Though, once CM is up and going than custom roms can start popping off as it will make it much easier to port. Using stock as a base is very challenging and at times nearly impossible. :)
[HTC One SV] bataya:
+1

Sent from my HTC One SV
[HTC One SV] MachiavelliBs:
Confirmed , and i do confirm this is my last HTC phone . Well this is HTC and the updates ... And the custumers .
[HTC One SV] :
I like this phone, but must admit, it is hard to make production when there isn't much to work with. Though, I am confident it will turn out for better. Just wish I had extra phones on the side to play around with as test phones. :) anyone donating for free hahaha
[HTC One SV] palmtree5:
May not be planned at this time. Maybe they decide to give us another update sometime down the line. Who knows? (perhaps this is just wishful thinking on my part)
[HTC One SV] Kreatur3:
I don't really care what HTC has in store for us in the future. I care more about development happening on custom roms. I like the phone. Don't like sense. Lol.
[HTC One SV] palmtree5:
Hopefully custom roms bring us 4.3 or 4.4 :)
[HTC One SV] :
Just need a proper base to work with.

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I'm itching to get at it lol. Just got to be patience for now.
[HTC One SV] :
The malware called Sense infects this phone hideously. :( I ran outta space, I remembered luckily that I have a 32GB card. Really though, KitKat would run no problem with the lower memory footprint.
[HTC One SV] palmtree5:
Yeah, in terms of space, sense takes up too much IMO
[HTC One SV] awidawad:
4.2.2+ Development would be a breeze once HTC releases source code for all variants. I own a k2cl variant so in terms of source and development for my phone is on hold atm. It's also very hard to work with sense as the base, as [MENTION=5537766]Modding.MyMind[/MENTION] said, because some HTC libs and firmware that are needed to boot are actually sense specific and/or are legacy drivers CM can't use because it is CAF based. However, I could give AOSP a run and see where that gets me instead of CM, as aosp isn't CAF dependent. I won't have my phone until mid February though because a good friend of mine is using it as a loner phone.
[HTC One SV] Explore The Universe:
The 4.4 KK update is on its way :)
[HTC One SV] :
Dis you get an update? We have pretty much established that we won't possibly go past 4.2 without some much needed Dev/ROM help.
[HTC One SV] HeIIBoy:
lol, i don't think so :D
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Picture or it did not happen ;)
[HTC One SV] Explore The Universe:
Here, Executive Director, Product Management of HTC says:

https://twitter.com/moversi/status/428740720304738304

here, confirms:

https://twitter.com/moversi/status/429056735945293825

He is just talking about boost mobile but im pretty much sure that 4.4 isn't limited to them. :)

HTC is changing guys ;) #HTChange!
[HTC One SV] xpirt:
Who's moversi? Does he have contact with them? LlabFooTer said that we'll not have updates anymore and I don't think he's wrong.

xpirt
[HTC One SV] russellvone:
whoa, 4.1.2 updated strait to 4.4? this is kind of exciting, maybe, not sure how to feel about unknown sources confirming things like this.

hopefully we'll have 4.4 CyanogenMod before March?......

lol

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hmm, maybe this could be real?
[HTC One SV] :
Maybe, 4.2.2 to 4.4 down the road, but I still question these resources. However, 4.1.2 to 4.4 won't happen. The 4.2.2 has already been built, signed, and approved. Sent out to Boost.

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Whoa!!! Boost Mobile just confirmed it....... This doesn't make sense though.......?
[HTC One SV] :
Wow. How? I don't want Sense 5.5/whatever build of Sense is 4.4, I just want source from the 4.4 build to make CM11 ;)

Cricket's page still says 4.0.4, so uh..
[HTC One SV] :
Boost rep at a location by me had insight on this info and was able to confirm it. I'm not sure how to feel about this though lol. Its boost..... This isn't like boost at all....

Edit: I refuse to believe it until it happens... Just seems so far out of the ordinary to me.

Edit: Someone with a Twitter account, hit LlabTooFeR up with that information, and see what insight he/she may have on it.

Edit: [MENTION=5365083]rickberg[/MENTION] is sending this to LlabTooFeR. Hopefully, a response soon with positive feed back.
[HTC One SV] Explore The Universe:
#HTChange ;)
[HTC One SV] palmtree5:
Well, this is an interesting development...
[HTC One SV] :
Info from LlabTooFeR
[HTC One SV] :
Hmmm... When 4.2.2 was coming around there was lots of noise in here...

Now with 4.4 knocking at the door for us K2_CL users..... I'm seeing a lot of z's haha :P
[HTC One SV] ravemanti:
OMG! Our phones can update to 4.4?
[HTC One SV] :
Our specs has the ability to handle it. But I fear we may lose some features though. I don't believe it will be %100, but regardless, I am not complaining haha.
[HTC One SV] russellvone:
I think active display would be sweet
[HTC One SV] awidawad:
Thought you guys should know...

:D
[HTC One SV] :
Thought you should know...there is already a thread ;)
[HTC One SV] xpirt:
Was posted in the other thread..

xpirt
[HTC One SV] awidawad:
Lol sorry I haven't been following much One SV stuff since I got my Nexus 5 :P
[HTC One SV] kristokristo:
Ok to Portugal!!

It arrrived to Portugal!!

All Ok!
[HTC One SV] PerfectJam:
What it arrived, Android 4.2.2 Sence 5.0 or Android 4.4 Sense 5.5 ?

I go change my CID right now if it's KitKat :D
[HTC One SV] J.ali.li:
Absolutely that's not kitkat.

Sent from me by SPlendid
[HTC One SV] HeIIBoy:
OMG, yesterday I was dreaming about sense 6 but today it has become a nightmare :))
[HTC One SV] J.ali.li:
Hahaha… funny. :D

Lets contact htc about this nightmare.

Sent from me by SPlendid
[HTC One SV] HeIIBoy:
LOL :D
[HTC One SV] MachiavelliBs:
Well i am crossing fingers this time ! :) Good news ! :)
[HTC One SV] LetsChangeTheGame:
retrogradingcbuilt

can you post htc one sv drivers for win 8.1 x64 please
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
If those in the quote will not work, i have no others.
[HTC One SV] DCGonzo:
total noob

My one sv just updated to 4.2.2 and sense 5 and I hate it now, how do i replace the sense 5 rom with the sense 4?
[HTC One SV] bataya:
Why do you hate it? You should give it a chance, way better then sense 4.

Maybe there is another method, but... First you need hboot 2.0, you need to be s-off, and you need costum recovery. Download nand backup from forum, boot to recovery and just restore, and wipe data, dalvik and cach.
[HTC One SV] DCGonzo:
re:

was hoping it was as easy as opening bootloader and just replacing the sense folder and a hard reset... where can i find the original rom before the update I never thought Id have to roll the phone back so I never created a backup. ( I did say total noob)
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
We need more information about your phone model, please!

Connect your phone with fastboot and type into the cmd:

fastboot getvar all

Put the output here (except your IMEI & Serial number)
[HTC One SV] milouk:
Root One SV

hey guys i have got an htc one sv s-on locked bootloader android version 4.2.2///i really want to root it but i find the unlock bootloader procedure very tricky so is there a way i can root it WITHOUT having to unlock bootloader?
[HTC One SV] fulrosa:
just a question...

sorry for 'noob' question but i want to unlock bootloader with htcdev procedure but i don't understand if this operation delete all data from phone (contact, messages, apps, etc.). Could someone tell me about it? Have a nice day.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Yes, it makes a full factory reset.
[HTC One SV] fulrosa:
Ok, I'll have to do a full backup before... Thanks a lot... Suggestions about 'one touch' full backup app that works without root permission?
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Without root your chance to backup app data is very small.

For everything else there are various apps like "My Backup", Carbon Backup or the HTC Backup.

But as i always used root to make full backups, i'm not really sure how much the non-root apps really can do!
[HTC One SV] Fant0m3:
You can use the web

sync manager will allow you to back up the important things like contacts, messages, pics, music. Or you can us htc sync backup and save all that stuff to dropbox. I personally just stuck an old sdcard in did the unlock got through everything then replaced it with the one that had all my stuff
[HTC One SV] fulrosa:
thanks for answer

now i need to root the phone because storage space is very low. I have the Italian stock TIM rom with a few "no-stock" app installed and i have to manually delete data from one app (like Facebook) before install any app update or htc cloud backup on dropbox.:mad::mad::mad:

I' don't found anything to move app data from phone storage to internal or external sd...

I think that the rooted phone with titanium backup or link2sd can solve this problem...

Instead i have to upgrade the entire phone to HTC ONE mini 2... :D
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
I think, even if they know, they are not allowed to talk in public about it.
[HTC One SV] Seanie280672:
everything I have read regarding our update says we will get the 4.2.2 update but not sense 5, apparently it will use up too much of the One SV 8gb space so don't get your hopes up too much, it maybe that we are stuck on sense 4+, this would also explain the delay, meaning HTC need to build 2 new roms, one containing sense 5 for the more powerful devices and one containing sense 4+ for the less powerful devices, if this is the case I think we can safely say this is going to be the last official update we are going to receive.
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
I'm anyway sure, that if we get one more update, it will be the last!

If we really get it (with or without Sense 5), we got two major updates 4.0.4 -> 4.1.2 -> 4.2.2

More only get the flagships from HTC. And also 4.2.2 without Sense 5 would better for me than the actual 4.1.2, cause it must have build in Quicksettings and widgets on Lockscreen, which are actually very important things for me. And i have 4.2.2 already on my Tablet and these two things are meanwhile very important for me.
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
In my opinion, we will get Sense 5, because:

1) It'd be too much of a hassle for HTC to just adapt Sense 4+ to Android 4.2. I mean i have yet to see an HTC phone running 4.2 and Sense 4+. All HTC phones which run 4.2 also have Sense 5 on board, right?

2) Our screens are low-res by today's standards, which means that the Sense graphics will also eat up less space than say in the HTC One with its huge screen res;

3) Since ours is a low-end phone by their/today's standards, they could, and i believe they will, scrap Blink Feed, which will also help Sense 5 run smoother and eat less system space;

4) I don't think that Football would have ventured to say, in various occasions, that we'll get Sense 5 if he didn't actually know what he was talking about. It'd have been easier for him, in order not to lose credibility, to just say he wasn't sure. That's what i would do.

But yes, i agree, if we'll get the update we will be the last ones to get it and also it'll be the last one we get, regarding major OS versions.

I would love to get Sense 5. Its design is lighter, it seems to be smoother, and it also packs the battery percentage and quick settings, which i both love and need.
[HTC One SV] J.ali.li:
I just read about HTC Zara and Zara mini that will be launched with android 4.3 and sense 5.5 while both have same hardware and 8 gb of storage as our one sv. So if it'll be launched some one can port android 4.3 and sense 5.5 for us and we can enjoy sense 5.5 instead of 5. :D
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
Well, i don't think it's gonna happen, somebody porting a ROM from another device to ours. I mean, hey, we don't even have CM...
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Thats exactly the point!

And how building a kernel for 4.3 without source code for our device.....
[HTC One SV] Thestealth2:
Yes same Hardware with a qHD-Display (960 x 540 Pixel) and thats is the Problem the Kernel source from Zara must be Public and then must this kernel port to SV.

With same hardware no problem.

Rom from zara Port?! NO its wrong Display size and all resize? mhhhhh

The Zara mini have same hardware with 480x800 that is a great and i wait for the Source 2014 LOL

EDIT ^^

sorry this is wrong the mini Specs:

specs from http://www.phonearena.com/news/HTC-Zara-mini-images-and-specs-leak-out_id46861
[HTC One SV] J.ali.li:
I dont know that much about porting a rom to say. But as far as I remember from my former phone its possible to port that rom. I had xperia sola and I had some roms that were ported from xperia p and go to sola and those were really good. Resolutions weren't same but had almost same hardware.
[HTC One SV] thearif:
Although everything is the same, screen resolution made things very difficult in the past. Resizing was a big deal in the old days of GB etc. I don't know about the new android versions though...
[HTC One SV] Malakaaa:
I don't get this. Isn't stock Android all about vector images and automatic adjustment to the screen resolution?

I mean if it wasn't like that, how would play store apps adjust to the screen resolution automatically (at least those that use the stock android GUI)?

So why is changing the resolution a problem? As long as we get a device that has the same hardware specs as the HTC One SV, it should be possible to port it.
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
Well, because Sense uses bitmaps instead of vectors. Also, resizing isn't a big problem per se, but compensating for aspect ratio is. For example, our phones are 800x480 (WQVGA, 5:3); the Zara is qHD (960×540, 16:9).
[HTC One SV] Malakaaa:
Well I wouldn't mind getting stock android instead of sense actually. But I understand your point about sense.
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
Me neither. I actually like Sense, bun i'm not a fanboy. I love stock Android, especially since they've changed the design guidelines (in ICS).

Anyways, we're going off-topic. :)
[HTC One SV] fratoff91:
Sorry, but the new htc Desire 300 has the same resolution of our one sv... So where is the problem?? When i had htc Desire, i remember that there was a port of sense 3 of htc sensation with full resize. I think that it is a hard and long work for only one dev. But it isn't impossible to do...

Inviato dal mio HTC One SV usando Tapatalk 4 Pro
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
It will have also "only" Android 4.1, what we already have. Only thing better, is Sense 5, but it could be in this price class, that it is a "Sense light", like Desire X has.

Its not impossible!

But the port you are talking of, was resized by the guys who developed the tool for it to do. So they did know exactly how and what to do.

And then still a lot of work, if you know how, yes.

But maybe our talk is unnecessary, because we get 4.2.2 & Sense 5.

Let's hope...!!!
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
No, it isn't impossible, but the result may never be bug-free. It might be just like ICS/JB were on the OG Desire - they did work, still do, but they're as buggy as hell. :) So it may not be worth it.

I too still think that HTC is gonna "bless" us with 4.2 and Sense 5. And so does Football -> [28'th of August], [3 hours ago] (thanks for asking, fratoff91). :)
[HTC One SV] gibihr:
I guess also it'll be the last update, as they have prepared desire 601 to be the ideal substitute for the SV... It was available in Italy from May 2013, and we already get a substitute :| But anyway I hope they will fix some of the annoying bugs SV has (music stuttering or the touchscreen not responding well while in charge), maybe we won't get sense 5, but at least android 4.2.2. Fingers crossed!
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
What the? I thought the touch screen not responding properly while the phone is charging was some weird grounding issue. Didn't know anybody else had it.

It's most annoying when you use a swype keyboard (SlideIT, in my case).
[HTC One SV] gibihr:
Exactly.. Mine also often opens the application next to the one i am willing to open, it looks like it gets excited when docked :D I am using stock android swipe keyboard, same thing happens!
[HTC One SV] Ivory_75:
Hello,

I follow this thread for many weeks now, and i have a question:

I think that the 8Gb of internal memory are split in 3.85GB (app storage) and 4.15GB (phone storage)

Once, i couldn't update an app because memory was full... I was very surprised because i don't have much apps, and no game that take a lot of memory. Chrome, One Note and Facebook are my bigger apps!

I don't understand why the 8gb memory is separated...

Is that spliting necessary? Why?

If to update, HTC needs to resize partitions and delete all datas (SMS, contacts, pictures, games score, shazam tags etc.. ) , they would not do it. They don't want their customer to loose any data because of a update.

like i said them on Twitter, i've bought a brand new 4G and NFC phone, because 4G that is just coming in France this autumn.

If it's already outdated, i will never ever buy an HTC phone again, nor advise it to friends.

I have the LTE version, and the ONLY thing i want is "quick setting" bar. I have one in my galaxy tab 2 and it was in my LG previous phone. It's a big big issue for me not to have it.

Regards,
[HTC One SV] loCe45:
Rom called Saturn III has it, and you can find it in development section.

Also, as far as i heard, new update comes with Sense 5, so in a month or two you'll have it either way ;)
[HTC One SV] Ivory_75:
Good news if you're right!

I know about alternative ROM, but i prefer to stay with a stock firmware & stock rom

Regards,
[HTC One SV] madpausa:
You could use power toggles or Android Control Center
[HTC One SV] Matlevo12:
Try some apps like widgetsoid for that, way more flexible than a built-in one.

And fyi, some french cities have already had 4g for some months now... like Lyon :)
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Nothing new, but same story continuing:

Picture from some hours ago.
[HTC One SV] loCe45:
One SV is like a black sheep of the One family :S
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
Nah, man, our SV is, let's face it, just a mid-range device. It was intentionally launched with ICS to prevent the crowd from buying it instead of the One S. It has already received one major OS upgrade and it will receive another one + a new major version of Sense. I guess that's alright for a mid-range device, isn't it?
[HTC One SV] Ivory_75:
[MENTION=4763582]Matlevo12[/MENTION]

Thanks for WidgetSoId. It seems to be nice. And It has nice comments.

I needed a phone in march 2013. I took this one because of

The size,

The CPU : It's dualcore Snapdragon Krait. Can't be very bad !

The RAM : 1GB, whichi is good and i don't need more.

The 4G and NFC.

The removable battery...

It would have been very successful if Camera was 8MP and not 5. And beside Camera, i'm sure it will still be Ok in 3 years, just like the Galaxy S2 is'nt outdated...Unless you use 4G and NFC, which are not deployed in France yet.

Also, marketing in France wasn't good for this phone : they foccussed too much on the HTC One

I think we can ask the update of the android version that was released in november 2012 !

I'm concerned about memory. In one hand, it says i have more than 1GB free, like 25% of the memory, and it says there are not enough space to update Facebook (16 MB! )

I don't understand ...
[HTC One SV] fratoff91:
I think that we won't wait too much if this update will release!!

Inviato dal mio HTC One SV usando Tapatalk 4 Pro
[HTC One SV] old.splatterhand:
Next 4 - 6 weeks i think.
[HTC One SV] TVTV:
The SV has 1.1 GB of app memory, 3.something GB of phone memory and can use up to 64 GB of SD memory, provided you have an SD card installed. All of the apps you install go to the app memory. You can then move them to the phone memory, but only if their developers allow it. If not, they're stuck in the app memory. Now, if you say that you can't update Facebook, please check your app memory (NOT phone memory) and tell us how much of it you have left. :) Having very little app memory left but loads of phone memory doesn't help you a bit, in terms of installing apps etc.

God speed, sir! :)
[HTC One SV] Ivory_75:
Hello,

You are right, i only have 50MB free space on app memory. I deleted some App Datas, move few of them and manage to Facebook.

Is there a separation in all Android phones or just few including OneSV ?

I don't get why they choose to leave so few memory for apps....

And,

Is it possible this small partition ( you say App Memory, maybe it's Systemp + App memory? ) is the reason why update to android 4.2.2 and Sense 5 is "complicated" ?

I understand they cannot take the decision to push an update that kills all datas.

But,

If this is the problem, why can't they propose a destructive update (that completely erase all memories) that could be run with a flash tool like KIES ? (or just simply release source, so we can build our own ROM)

Advance users usually accept to loose all datas...

Regards,