yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
This^^^

As much as I once loved OT, it's not the same, it won't ever go back to the way it was and its clearly not only causing problems between mods and users....but it just isn't fun anymore.
[Off-topic] flastnoles11:
Lol, i seen the post that got him banned, it was nothing like that so don't compare the two... That one deserved a perma ban, the one that got him perma banned didn't... Just my opinion though

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power."” ― David Brin
[Off-topic] undercover:
And I fully support you in this case. As many others, I'm sure. This should explain that we are after the same goal but are taking different language. Babylon?

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] Archer:
Mark is a welcome member of this discussion, just like everyone else. If you don't want to read his posts then either don't read them or add him to your ignore list.

We're trying to have an open discussion here to make things better for everyone, and you've basically come in and said "I'm really drunk - I shouldn't post here" and then continued to do so.

Not being funny, but you're not helping. Chill out and be constructive, or you're part of the problem.
[Off-topic] Ibsonic:
Yeah, what could be the reason OT isn't fun anymore.. The fun was taken away once..

But I'm still reading and following so I'm stepping back again.. :D
[Off-topic] JknRich:
All in favour of certain mods being kicked say aye!

Oh wait that would mean we are being democratic.

Come on mods why won't you listen.

Problems are being stated and nothing done.

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
This^^^

Quasi was clearly targeted by the mods IMO

He NEVER posted like while a member and actually contributed QUITE A BIT to XDA as a whole, not only with threads he opened, but helping individual users via pm.
[Off-topic] flastnoles11:
If only it were that easy, i know 30 or so people that would sign a petition right now!

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power."” ― David Brin
[Off-topic] JknRich:
Start it.

Let's start a list of user that want changes to the way mods use there powers on here. Simple!

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)
[Off-topic] undercover:
I'm AM constructive. "being drunk" is a joke, and everyone here (but few) understands it. Yes, I have had a drink, but that means nothing. I'm still in sound mind and can relay my thoughts and conclusions. All I'm saying is that Mark is a major negative point from from he users point of view. It would help if he just stayed back and kept quiet for a bit. A lot of users (me personally, I'm indifferent) are quite negative against him, so him posting is just fueling the negative side of the debate. So yeah, he's welcome to post and fuel it even more. See what I mean when I say you guys don't see the bigger picture? I'm trying to balance it out a little bit.

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] flastnoles11:
This is not a democracy, we could do that but it would still come down to then making the final word on it

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power."” ― David Brin

---------- Post added at 06:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:57 PM ----------

Exactly

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power."” ― David Brin
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Can't add a mod to your ignore list....believe me, I've tried
[Off-topic] JknRich:
Why though. Why not go to the man in charge. He has to listen if enough users are pissed.

The only reason he does not is his mod team will say they have it under control.

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)
[Off-topic] mark manning:
Since you guys seem to have an issue with me will you all please let me know what it is that has offended you so deeply. I would like to discuss whatever with whoever
[Off-topic] Archer:
You're trying to balance it out a little bit by telling the person that most of this discussion is about, that they shouldn't respond?

That's not constructive, and it's neither fair nor right.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
I'll also add this:

I feel that as the moderation policies have taken effect, the guys that actually had something interesting to say or more importantly contribute to XDA as a whole have either been chased away (by the aforementioned moderation policies) or banned.

:(
[Off-topic] Archer:
Oh really? I didn't know that. It makes me want to troll all the more :p
[Off-topic] JknRich:
Dude are you trying to fuel it even more.

You might as well stand there with a kick my sign.

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)

---------- Post added at 01:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:02 AM ----------

It could be helpful.

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::p:what:
[Off-topic] undercover:
Archer, listening is a great skill. And talking while listening is counterproductive. Mark seems to have a good approach to it judging by his post few minutes ago, so just stop sticking up for him because he's just "one of you" and do something that is a right thing to do. Just consider that something had gone wrong along the way. Grrrrrrr. This is frustrating.

Yes, yes, he i am doing just what you said. Stand back and look at it from the side! You should do it too. I understand the urge to stick up for "him", "system" etc but have you ever considered that users have a valid point? No, you bloody haven't. Coin always has two sides. Unless you are "Twoface", that is......

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] Archer:
It's just nice to know you can't get away from me if I choose you as a target.

Lol - you know I wouldn't do it :angel:
[Off-topic] LoopDoGG79:
Saying "dude you are trying to fuel it" is completely dodging the question. What EXACTLY has mark done to piss so much people off? I personally, have not experienced any heavy handedness or irrational behavior from the mods. The times I've been banned were well deserved, cause I clearly broke the rules.
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Sure you wouldn't.... :rolleyes::p
[Off-topic] Archer:
Mark can post in here as much or as little as he chooses.

Please don't try to start an argument with me about whether I am "twoface" or not. It's pointless and I'll just not bother.
[Off-topic] cascabel:
okay, so i just woke up and saw this. read everything. safe to say the...err...concern is already identified (more or less). hopefully we all (users and mods) can think of a way we can resolve this. is that possible? :)

[MENTION=1071274]Archer[/MENTION] nice to see you back in ot. :p
[Off-topic] JknRich:
Do you know what we can discus this till the cows come home its not getting us anywhere.

While all the mods sit back and chill and laugh at the user because they know the will get the last say.

It's ****ing pointless what is the ****ing point talking to a brick wall.

You got users reporting in this thread that one person gets a warning for something and a mod does not. There is a problem right there. So start by dealing with that.

Then sort your problems on why post get deleted. Then take a long look at your mod team. As you have problems there. **** this.

My N⁴ barked at me! Why? Because your missus just text me ;)
[Off-topic] Archer:
Thanks. I thought my absence had gone unnoticed :)
[Off-topic] flastnoles11:
Did you read the thread, it's been mentioned about 10 times

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power."” ― David Brin
[Off-topic] undercover:
Argh, you really don't get it.... It's not about you... Seriously, I have had enough. I like you and many other mods, buy you inability of listening is annoying. Hence I request my account to be disabled until further notice. Looks like I've tried and failed to relay the message to you from the guys, or you (generalising) just don't want ant to hear it. I can get my kernels and ROMs without a valid account anyways. Bye bye contribution, hello unconditional leeching.

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
This is my honest personal opinion on mark :D

1.) i never actually saw him going too far or be in a abusive state(maybe because i don't bother reading his every post). I actually think mark is cool, but I've heard some feedback about him.

On XDA and it's moderation policies

2.)The banning of veeman and pasta was just not right on the grounds for quoting a 3rd party, i don't see anywhere in XDA bible that you could have warranted a 3rd party liability for someone else's post.

3.)The banning of roof was just sick and abusive.

This post is in compliance with the national potato safety regulation.

[Galaxy S 4 LTE]
[Off-topic] pstevep:
Wow. This has been an interesting read. With believe it or not, some valid points.

First. Being warned about using "*****". IMO. Unless you are using in the term to describe your dog that just had puppies, I don't think you should be using it. However, I personally don't judge on language because its all different. My ideas of what is derogatory and what isn't is vastly different than that of most everyone in this thread. Mark warned. Take it as that. A warning. He noted the response for future reference. Now let it go.

As for CTM. It isn't mark's place to warn him. He took it to his team leader, which was the appropriate step. I would have probably said that in my response to the report, so it was known that it was sent up the chain correctly and not simply dismissed. Do I agree with CTM's use of the word? See the above statement.

The problem is, everyone in here is too close to the situation. You all resent each other, members vs mods. I've spent a lot of time reading this forum, more than I probably should have, and the problem is certain people ruin everything for everyone. But that usually stems from something else. You blame new members, but also get ticked when people who have been here for a while get in trouble. Just because you are new or old doesn't make you good or bad. There was a lot of stuff in the past that should have been handled with a heavier hand, but because it wasn't and now things are being heavier, freak outs happen.

This isn't the only forum on this site, but it is the one where people think they can get away with anything.

I don't care who anyone is if they don't play by the rules then they should be held accountable. I don't stand up for other mods if they do something against the rules. But it also isn't my decision what happens to them, and just like we don't discuss user issues in public, we don't discuss moderator issues in public.

Permanent bans aren't given btw, they are earned. If you resolve to get a perm ban its for a reason. They are also reviewed, if there isn't supporting evidence they can be over turned. We don't go around perm banning anyone we want.

Just my little pennies on the situation from a non biased outsider mod.
[Off-topic] Archer:
First off, I never said it was about me. The response to the name-calling of me was a response to the name-calling of me, which you did. I do not have an "inabilty of listening" at all. I've read everything you've said and responded to it. If you don't like the responses then give us something constructive back to discuss. You seem unable to accept that someone doesn't just say "okay" to everything you type!

Finally, if you genuinely do want your account disabled then I'll pass that request on to Admin, but I don't see the point. If you want a break then take a break. It sounds like what's going on here is getting to you a little too much. After all, it's just a forum. We've all got massive real lives off this place. I know for one I'm not gonna be one here this weekend as I've got real life to take care of. Do the same and maybe we can chill and pick this up later.
[Off-topic] cascabel:
same here. like alan, i haven't personally been a target/victim of that. but i've gotten feedback, and they're mostly, if not all, unpleasant. i'm not saying it's true or not, so i'm staying neutral on that. but... the tension in ot as a whole can be felt... i just hope this discussion leads somewhere so we can bring back the lulz. it'd be great to see suggestions towards that. arguing with each other won't take us anywhere.
[Off-topic] DowntownJeffBrown:
I agree with 2 and 3

As had been already said and I've read every post in this thread the problem is obvious. Though nothing will be done about it we already know that. The cop mentality will always be in effect and we all have been told a million times that xda is not a democracy. Problem is we all know what happens with totalitarianism governments which is dead cause I love xda.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Off-topic] pstevep:
Also.

There is a lot of look at it from the other side type of stuff.

The problem when you tell someone to look at it from the other side is you are often failing to see the other side yourself. To everyone their own side is always the most important.

You want moderators to admit they are wrong but do you admit that you are wrong? Or is it just the fault of the over bearing over lords?
[Off-topic] undercover:
1. I never ever called you names. Never would. In all history of me being on xda I've called one guy a dickhead which he deserved and i got 5 points for it. I'd I want to call someone a name, I'd do it in the way he knows about it 100%

2. I don't want "okay" responses. I want you lot to think about what users have to say. You haven't so far.

3. Yes, ban please. Not a break. I've head enough of crap when even seasoned ot SMs are acting like little girls and are taking everything personally without ability to see other people's point of view or just have a few second though of what is exactly meant by the post. Laziness and ignorance, that's what I call it.

Just so you understand, "twoface" was the reference to the character from batman that had a coin with two identical sides.

Oh, and have a good weekend, I'm too gonna be busy with the real life. I am most of the time, but every time I have some time to kill I come back here to see some drama in regards to "xda vs users". Maybe that explains the frustration? FB seems to be more fun as of lately.

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
They could be banned on grounds of religious matterial deemed offensive.

But for quoting someone's post is just wrong.

Thanks mods for bringing up your voice on this matter, we appreciate the thought of you guys actually listening in light of the tensions going on in OT

This post is in compliance with the national potato safety regulation.

[Galaxy S 4 LTE]
[Off-topic] DowntownJeffBrown:
Totally agree my potato brethren

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Off-topic] roofrider:
I largely blame your absence for this debacle. :p
[Off-topic] Archer:
There's some hot-headedness in this thread, clearly, (not aiming that comment at you) and I just want to be 100% sure. I'm not trying to "call your bluff" or anything like that. Do you really want me to request your account be closed?
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
And i blame [MENTION=1707123]M_T_M[/MENTION] for not being here sharing his views.

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[Galaxy S 4 LTE]
[Off-topic] Archer:
You're sweet, but I'm taken :p
[Off-topic] roofrider:
[MENTION=3038832]undercover[/MENTION] Stay.
[Off-topic] cascabel:
agreed. but i guess that's human nature? let's just hope everyone is able to look at it on both sides. :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gbmannc:
So, my phone is rooted and unlocked.I pop in my sim card, put in access point info that was in my old phone that got 3g (desire z/g2) and I only get edge. Am I missing a step? Did Tmobile block att bands for 3g use in the USA?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] gbmannc:
I figured it out. Network mode was set to GSM. When it was switched to GSM/WCDMA 4g came in great. Not sure why that would be, as ATT uses GSM only, but there you go for anyone that's searching. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RodimusConvoy:
Do you mean 3G came in when you switched to GSM/WCDMA? Its my understanding this phone, despite its name, can't actually get 4G but rather a somewhat faster version of 3G when 4G is switched on (online it seems to have the unofficial title of 3.5G).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] croogrog:
As i understand it what the phone companies call 4g is not quite actually 4g. Its 2 channels of 3g which gives a net speed in the 4g range. But 4g lte is actually a 4g connection, which the relay doesn't have.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RodimusConvoy:
Meaning the Relay 4G won't be able to access AT&T's 4G connection.

I'm more concerned with it being able to access AT&T's 3G connection. There isn't enough 4G LTE coverage for me to really be concerned with a phone that can't access it. In 2 years times, YEAH, but for now, no, I just want decent 3G.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Bobby Tables:
It shouldn't have a problem, as long as it's unlocked and you've set up your APN properly. I've moved my T-Mobile service to an LTE-capable LG Optimus F3, and put an H2O Wireless SIM into the Relay (H2O is an MVNO that uses AT&T's network). AT&T's HSPA+ works fine on my Relay.

The labeling of HSPA+ as "4G" was pure marketing BS; T-Mobile started with that, and AT&T followed suit. I suppose that dual-carrier HSPA+ reaches into 4G territory from a speed standpoint, but I've never seen DC-HSPA+ outside of T-Mobile's network.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RodimusConvoy:
I've seen H20 at Best Buy, for some reason I thought it was an MVNO of T-Mobile. I was going to go with the AT&T GoPhone.

I've read about T-Mobile's marketing "trick" but I didn't realize AT&T did something similar.

Well like I said, once I get this phone I should be fine for a good 2 years just using 3G and data. That should give the market time to catch up in the 4G department, by which time I'll be ready to move on to another phone anyway. Thanks for the info. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] scotte9999:
Yes, "H+" (aka 42Mbps 3G) works fine on the Relay with AT&T Go Phone. It's what my wife is using, and it works fine. Faster than my 21Mbps HTC One X on Go Phone. :(
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RodimusConvoy:
LOL :laugh: Ebay, my friend. Cheap and new for less than $250. I'm buying myself one for Christmas, I urge you to do the same. :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] scotte9999:
Yeah, I bought my wife's for $140 as a manufacturer refurb.

No way do I want to swap my HOX for a Relay, just saying her 3G is markedly faster than mine.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] RodimusConvoy:
lol alright cool, understood. Well I'm ready to go to the Relay 4G. Love my Epic but its time. GSM here I come.

And I see you're from San Diego. I was there briefly just to catch a plane, but I always wanted to go back to visit. If you live there and 3G on GoPhone works just fine, I should be good. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Shebee:
Using apex launcher..

So when I put a direct dial shortcut on my desktop, the icon is really small and I can see like ½ or one quarter of the contacts profile picture.

What's wrong? On touchwiz it works great.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavster26:
Hi friends im having trouble dumping a system img i've tried a few tools but none of them will work. could one of you please help or try to extract it your self please thanks. Here it is https://mega.co.nz/#!u0pHxJoC!KBthTDYtvDpLk9SMnOJ-tW82Gq1v4be0FXadep772OI
[Acer Iconia A500] elvirr:
Hi

I just got iconia a500 but it won't boot. When i press power button, the button lights white but the screen stays black, and after a second or two it just vibrates and the power button lights turns off.

I tried to do the hard reset but it doesn't work.

I tried to enter apx mode, but when i hold power and reset buttons the computer recognizes it and as i release the buttons it disconnects from pc.

No matter whad i do, the screen is black...

Is there something else i can do? I bought it used from cowboom and i didn't test it, now i can't return it because the 15 days has passed :crying:

Tnx
[Acer Iconia A500] skurtov:
Have you tried connecting from different USB ports? I've heard people struggle with front facing USB ports due to their low power? Anyways, try the ones directly connected to your motherboard.
[Acer Iconia A500] dibb_nz:
You shouldn't be connected to the pc while entering apx mode. Enter apx first then connect.

As for being stuck on the black screen...There are hundreds of threads regarding this.

Read the cpuid guide and the root guide in my sig, post there if u need further help

dibb
[Acer Iconia A500] elvirr:
Ok, i will try and post the results

Tnx

I have installed drives, tried other usb ports but it's the same.

A500manager detects the tablet and after second i hear the sound like when you disconnect the device.

The problem is that it won't stay in apx mode.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KinetiClutch:
My GS4 Seems to have lost APN settings or they are only partly there.

I'm on Orange EE in the UK. Anyone got any idea how to find them / get them back?

For some reason I wasn't allowed to add them if i changed a port.

Name = [whatever]

APN = everywhere (case sensitive)

Proxy =

Port =

Username = eesecure

Password = secure

Server =

MMSC =

MMS proxy =

MMS port =

MCC = 234

MNC = 30

Authentication type = PAP

APN type = default

APN protocol = IPv4

Bearer = Unspecified

If anyone searches this and needs them
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] exis:
Help! My xda doesn't go to suspend mode, even if pressing the power button, after a second, the backlight goes back on and the today screen displayed. need help please... thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] master_guapo:
Does it turn off and on when you push the power button? if so then it is working. What you need to do is go to settings, then power, then advanced, then on battery power set the minutes or seconds to turn of the device. Or maybe your device's buttons are accidentally pressed so what you need to do is button lock it so that it won't get pressed accidentally.

master g.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Temrael:
Not sure if this is what you mean but I was confused by the on/off switch on my IIi, I kept turning the backlight off rather than getting it to suspend.

The trick is to just press the power button for a short time and it will go off/on. If you hold it down you only put the back light on/off. I guess I shoulda read the manual. :oops:

First post btw, hi all. :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] exis:
The problem is, when you press the power button, it goes off just for a second then turns on again. I have changed the backlight and power settings, but still it just wont go to suspend mode. Even when pressing the suspend icon button in SBP Pocket Plus, the unit behaves the same. All I do now is turn off the backlight by pressing the power button for more than a second and just let the today screen be on, but it is eating away my battery life...

please help.

thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Xeon:
hard Reset ... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: