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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Please let me know what information you have about the Riffbox & JTAG. I hard-bricked my device. No lights, no screen. :/

Basically, I was a fool and attempted to update sbl2 and sbl3 without updating aboot (thinking I could probably gain the benefits of the new bootloader without locking down aboot and patching the loki exploit. It successfully rebooted once into the OS... but upon next reboot, it's now 100% dead. I'm thinking JTAG is my only hope. And I don't want to spend $60 to have someone else do it (might as well spend ~$100 to buy the equipment myself?).

Very much sadface right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chevelleguy:
So seems im on build ending in mf3. Is this the new update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
If you are holding an I337, yes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
So you can confirm it does not effect the LOKI patch?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Attached is the updater-script from the I337UCUAMF3 OTA patch. More to come!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Yeah but now there is a kernel build from June 5th, could be problematic as that is after Dan released Loki, and it's not like it would be difficult to prevent Loki considering technically how simple Loki really is. A few lines of code would suffice to avert Loki and force a check.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
anyone have the ota zip?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RawisTheGameHhH:
i just checked and nothing; then i checked again and it says processing the download for the software and then it says the download was interrupted; any ideas? i have tried this a few times
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
I have it, but haven't applied it. I have no place to upload it, except maybe my dropbox for a while...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HiTideBlastoise:
I did the same, but it keeps prompting me for the update. I just want to know if I can root afterwords
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] devildog25pr:
Ok I am on ATT and I have the ota notification

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I did
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
grab the ota.zip b4 u you take the ota... i would advise everyone to hold off on update kernel may block root!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RawisTheGameHhH:
im not rooted or anything; i just tried again and then it tells me the download was interrupted; can i not do this over wifi?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] amhatter:
Applied update no issues. Might just be me, but it seems a bit "snappier". Placebo effect maybe. Idk we will see. Definitely do have stronger service at my house now, 1 bar before to 3 after.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Can you confirm if it messes with LOKI or Root?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] asuprice:
Any chance this update fixes the screen smearing issue as well?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RawisTheGameHhH:
4th time is a charm; downloading now
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] devildog25pr:
Same happened to my and now I have to wait 24 hours
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
here's an update edit to info link to droid-life, not sure if all saw this--

Update: We’ve been told that this permanently patches the previous root method, includes a new bootloader, and will (for the time being) make life hell for those who want root. If you wan’t to keep your freedom, do not update yet. (More at this XDA thread.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] amhatter:
Delete. .. dbl post. Sorry
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RawisTheGameHhH:
manually change your date in the settings to tomorrow!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
good old sammy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Taken straight from \cache\fota\2400258.cfg, here is the I337UCUAMF3 OTA update:

http://d-h.st/vBt

Simply rename the file with a .zip extension to open it.

If someone would like to mirror this to a more permanent location, that would be appreciated.

EDIT: Uploaded to Dev-Host, so link has changed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chevelleguy:
Yes I am. From what I was reading the update removed root yet I still have it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
Does TiBu work?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chevelleguy:
Yes. I can use apps that ask for root permission, currently using xposed mod with nottach. Tried to get custom recovery with goomanger since thats how I got it in the first place with no luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] erasat:
I don't mind losing my Root, so I downloaded your file and renamed it with a Zip extension but I'm not sure what to do next, I mean, in my Asus Tablet I can put an update file into my SDcard and after I remount it it automatically detect the update, here it's not doing that. So I put it on my Phone SDcard root folder and reboot it and still nothing.

So, a simple question, if I want to update using this file because it keeps failing while checking for an update on mine, can I just do what I did? If so, what to do after I rename it to Zip file? Thanks and sorry to be asking this but for some reason I can't simply find an answer or a way to do it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] oldblue910:
Once it's on your phone's SD card, restart your phone and hold down the volume up key while it's powering on. You'll see a little message that says Entering Recovery Mode. Once your phone is in recovery mode, select Apply Update from External. Find the ZIP file, and select it. Use your volume keys to navigate up and down and the power button to select.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
You might try renaming it to "update.zip" - never tried that before.

If you had a custom recovery, you could theoretically just install it like that, but the update will likely fail because it would detect that you device is rooter or otherwise changed.

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What he said. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I believe some functions of X-Posed and N-Posed can both run without root access...though I'm not 100% sure about that. The real test is to use something like root checker to see if it detects root. You can't get custom recovery because of the new aboot that (presumably) blocks LOKI. However, if somehow you did keep root, you could potentially do a system dump and let one of the DEVs look at it to see how root was saved...if you do still have root access.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] erasat:
Thanks a lot. I don't know why I didn't think on Entering Recovery Mode and Update from zip from there, I just did it, and finally I got the update, BUT, for all of you who do it this way, in my case it Reset to factory my phone, and obviously I wasn't expecting that, so, well, now to set everything back...:(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] oldblue910:
It doesn't do that if your system is bone stock. I forgot you were rooted. Sorry...I kinda dropped the ball on that one. If it detects root it will do a data wipe. Ouch. :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chevelleguy:
Root checker app say I still have root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] linuxthinker:
You can use Terminal Emulator on your device or adb from your computer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] gokartracer5:
I had root before updating to mf3. I installed voodoo ota root keeper and made a backup of the root files. After the update, I used that app to restore root. Now I have root after the mf3 update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
interesting workaround; quoted to save the info. thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
You should set up a "donate" link. You are clearly a contributing Dev at this point and I wouldn't mind throwing a couple of dollars your way to help get you back up and running.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
might be boned either way; i think jtag would fix the Qfuse issue but i havent read directly about their interaction. i always treat new updates like i would a pit viper; i stay clear and out of contact whenever possible. if not, well use whatever is in hand to kill it quickly. the snake, that is, not the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] songsongsong:
very interesting, thanks for sharing!

can anyone confirm that this works? sounds too good to be true, but i dont know ****
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
If it is confirmed as working, a way can be devised to insert root via the same method Voodoo OTA root keeper re-installs it. Perhaps a script just like motochopper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] danny39:
Yes please confirm because I don't want to take the risk. Sounds selfish but yeah
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] calvin35:
Is your bootloader locked now? I fear I already know the answer.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Bootloader has always been locked, the question is, will LOKI work on the new firmware. It might be risky to check it on the phone. The best way would be for a Dev to check the code. But if anyone wants to take the risk it might or might not screw things up. Chances are, it will just "fail" but you never know...just be careful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
supposedly blows a qfuse so effectively no way back, yet, if ever. loki patched, root patched (via normal methods) and odin back to MDL or MDB not possible now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
I'll try it

SGS4 non stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] spdwiz18:
could we not just inject "su" and "superuser" int o the update there by preserving root. I have been able to get the system/modem/boot to take just as [MENTION=587270]aoe[/MENTION] has by making my own neutered script w/ "su" injected. as the update script does not do an integrity check on it self

also by removing the recovery portion of the update we can preserve costom recovery.

the problem still lies with the fact that wifi is broken if you follow AOE or my footsteps.

without a real guini pig to try the next step which is flashing a modified update with the bootloaders attached to see if wifi problem is connected to the bl's (dought it) but my be connected to the hlos.bin which I believe does talk to the bl's

my theory is that we can get a custom recovery with root but loki will not work and there by not be able to flash boot images. but we will still be able to modify system files its a real catch 22.

now I leave it to you to blow holes in this. Just my 2 cents.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] visuelz:
As of the new update, my phone now boots up with the custom flag but no root. :((( guess I won't be able to bring this to the store for a while...haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] spectrumfox:
If you factory wipe it, the "Custom" screen will revert back to normal. That's how it used to behave with MDL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
Success.

I am rooted on the new update.

Simply used voodoo root keeper.

However nottach xposed does not work for all options anymore, so the framework is obviously different on the new update.

SGS4 non stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Now there are 2 questions:

1. Can a method be devised to inject root via the same method voodoo uses if people didn't use Voodoo to save root in the first place?

and

2. Can someone simply use voodoo itself, along with the root files from someone else's phone (saved with Voodoo) to inject root into a phone that has already taken the OTA without using Voodoo to save previous root for themselves?

Because this is good news for those that use Voodoo, take the OTA, and the use Voodoo again to restore root on the same phone. However, I am trying to figure out ways that people can use to obtain root if they did not use Voodoo before the OTA or if they buy a phone that comes preinstalled with the new firmware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
Excellent news, yes... however a Dev will have to figure that out. I'm just a user, Tron. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
It's possible to manually flash the MF3 update using your own custom recovery, and then immediately flash the SuperSU package .zip. As far as I can tell, there's nothing in the kernel or ROM that would prevent you from doing so.

To do so, you'll need to create your own "neutered" version of the update, and remove at least the integrity (ro.secure==1) check in the updater-script. Further, you'll probably want to remove the references to the Recovery. Otherwise, it will try to re-flash your recovery.

In any case, you're welcome to try whatever combination you wish by making your own flashable zip, but I must warn you regarding the bootloaders: it's all or nothing. I attempted to flash sbl2 and sbl3 without flashing aboot or tz. I am now hard-bricked. The method I outlined in my thread is safe, but if you go further past that, you might end up in trouble.

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There is no known way to root the MF3 devices without having first saved root (as you mentioned) or maintaining a custom recovery.

One thing that should be made clear to anyone using this method to keep root: If you ever use Odin-to-stock, you will lose root again. Well, currently, from the sounds of it, if you odin-to-stock, you'll soft-brick your device. :P

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Thanks for your support. I did set up a link, but don't like to ask for money. As I've mentioned before, I'm mostly doing this for my own benefit - except that I'm posting all the details of what I've done online for everyone else to mess with. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I threw a couple dollars your way to buy some liquid courage (Adult beverage of your choice) so you can keep doing the risky stuff. :good:

Someone started a thread about the "Root" issue in the "Developer's Only" section. I linked some information to him via Private message that he might be able to use to help find a root option for people that already took the MF3 update without root. Maybe something will come of it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Thanks again! I probably should have had some of that liquid courage before today's attempts at using QPST to flash a .hex file that was intended to turn the entire emmc into a giant USB flash drive (all 16gb). Unfortunately(?) the device refused to take it because it wasn't signed by Samsung. >_<

I'll be watching that thread over in the Dev-Only section closely. Thanks for the heads-up about its existence.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Roadk1ng:
Sent you a little something for all your work. Thanx Bro
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] arcticwolf8:
Typo

Just FYI, the title of the thread says uptdare instead of update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mbonus:
That's because the op was "dare"ing you to take the update. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AmesCell:
I am rooted only. No custom recovery. I have Vodoo backing up my root. I unfroze everything. I can't get the update. Keeps failing. I manually downloaded the 2400258.cfg. Is there a way to install that without losing data?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
If you have root now, and have root later, you could try a risky move and use dd to backup your entire data partition and then put it back when you are done... Some things might still break though, so it may not even be worth it. Alternatively, you could just temporarily put on a custom recovery, but that's probably a personal preference there. I find the easiest (technically most risky) method to install a recovery is using dd. The same method can be inversed to backup your existing recovery. Regardless, the stock recovery was patched with the MF3 update, so doing this would make you miss out on whatever the patch was.

Alternatively again, you could ask one of these lucky few rooted stock people that still have stock recovery to use dd to post their new MF3 patched stock recovery (which, btw, would be VERY handy to have...)...

Yeah, I know, I'm making things complicated. hehe

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Also, thank you, [MENTION=2835207]Roadk1ng[/MENTION]!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] arctia:
Heading off to the ATT store tonight to get a new phone. Will report back to see if they upgrade your firmware on the spot, or worse, the firmware is already upgraded. I wonder if I can request the rep to not turn on the phone at all...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AmesCell:
Thanks. I guess I'll just install CWM and rename the .cfg to update.zip. Haven't had a need for CWM, but I guess I do now.

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Wait if I use CWM to install the cfg as update.zip and it tries to patch recovery won't that be an issue?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AndroidLonghorn:
I have been having the same issue with the update failing. Also, only rooted no recovery installed, so I started digging around the cache directory using Root Explorer. It looks like my installation is failing because I deleted the talk.apk when hangouts came out. Apparently, that is the check that is causing mine to fail. Look in the last_log file in /cache/recovery

It may help you find out why yours is failing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RonH54:
If you have limited data plan be sure turn off updates or only update with WiFi because they could update while driving home and you eat up your Data...FAST.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] erasat:
I finally put all my settings back, at least it seems and works as it was until yesterday, jeje.

No problem, it really took me by surprise, even more, when my phone was completely unroot by the time I did it. First thing I did yesterday was removing all Root (SU and Busybox, then the SU app), I checked after a couple of reboots and it was completely stock, only then, I used Odin and flashed OEM firmware, and THEN was when I did the update using the file from here.

So as you can see, it should have just updated and not wiped my data, but I wasn't in front of the phone, I let it running, so I didn't see any messages or warnings. But well, at least I'm back where I was, just without root. So far, so good. Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AmesCell:
Any keywords to look for? I'm not finding fail type words. Only thing I see remotely bad looking is this and it looks like it finishes that section ok.

#cmp -r /system/csc/common /

trace: __out_return: __scan_cmp_dir :: Can't open dir '/system/csc/common' .. skip (No such file or directory)

#cp -y -f -r -v /system/csc/ATT/system /system

trace: __out_return: __scan_cp_dir :: cannot get src '/system/csc/ATT/system' (No such file or directory)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I think it might be useful to link this thread here...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2360859

Of course full credit to the linked thread goes to it's OP.

My question is, has anyone tries steps 2 through 6 in the above linked post to try and make AMDL's firmware work in ODIN for phones that already have the MF3 update? I doubt it would be that simple, but if this is how the new aboot (MF3) is checking and denying AMDL downgrades via ODIN it could change the game.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] arcticwolf8:
Well, now I feel like a moron. Lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AndroidLonghorn:
Hmm, mine actually states

failed to stat "/system/app/talk.apk": No such file or directory
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AmesCell:
I wanted to make 100% sure I was looking at the right one so I deleted the log and tried again. It worked. This was probably the 20th time I tried it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AndroidLonghorn:
I'm still erroring out, but it is at least downloading the full update now. Previously, I couldnt even get that far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
If you've deleted or even modified any of the system files it checks for, the OTA will fail, period. You might be able to slap the file back in place from an old nandroid backup or such, but make sure you get the MDL version (not MDB).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeybear23:
I guess I didn't have that issue because I only freeze things i don't need or use.

SGS4 non stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Absolutely correct. When the MDL update came around, I still had not made any changes to /system. I was able to unfreeze the updater applications and update OTA easily, once we had confirmed that root/Loki was still possible of course.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] arctia:
Just came back from ATT store. The phone they gave me has base band version I337UCUAMDL. I disabled wifi and cell data on the spot, so they was no chance of any update being pushed through. Rooted through Motorchopper just fine. Have to download Tibu later to freeze updater apps...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] phobia09:
Took the update myself, mostly pleased with MF3 except one thing: Anyone else experiencing crashing in gallery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LingBo:
I can download the package named "2400258.cfg", but failed when installing the update. recovery log shows "can't open dir '/system/csc/ATT/system' ", anyone know what to do?:confused:

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Hey, buddy,

I think I have the same problem as you had. Do you know how to fix the "/system/csc/ATT/system not found" problem? Thank you so much!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
My first guess - did you uninstall the "CSC" application? (have you removed any bloatware?)

Also, I find this peculiar, particularly because the update specifically checks for integrity on (and later patches) the following 4 files in the /system/CSC/ folder:

/system/csc/contents.db

/system/csc/customer.xml

/system/csc/default_workspace.xml

/system/csc/feature.xml

Otherwise, I see no other references to /system/csc/ATT. Very strange.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tommyloui:
How do I stop the update on my ATT S4-SGH-I337

I'm new and I read a few posts but I don't know much yet :(

but I want to learn My wife & I both have a S4 SGH-I337 and I want to stop the update that is going to block me from doing so much that I read about

can somone please give me directions on how to stop this (please remember I just am a NOB ) and I'm probably screwing up posting this but I have looked for hours and i'm still lost.

thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jeffreii:
See the sticky in this same forum:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LingBo:
I did delete some app like "ATT map family",''story album", but I have not touched anything related to "CSC". Then I found that it failed when updating the OTA. I guessed the reason was the deleted app. Then I downloaded the whole 4.2.2 package for AT&T galaxy s4, extracted the app from it and installed into my phone, Then I tried to update again. This time the progress bar move to like 35% percent then the phone just reboot.

So I guess when I deleted something related to AT&T, "ATT map famlily" for example, something like "csc" which was also deleted. It can not be recovered even if you find the original app and have it reinstalled. Maybe I should look at something else in the original package aside from

"system/app".

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I checked the

/system/csc/contents.db

/system/csc/customer.xml

/system/csc/default_workspace.xml

/system/csc/feature.xml,

everything is in my phone. It is peculiar.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I wonder even at 35% could the update already have changed something--wouldn't seem possible

Would you, at this point, want to just install custom recovery and flash an MF8 rom?

New at Samsung myself. But, can you get a MDL OTA/Odin and revert back to pure stock and run Triangle Away if needed?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LingBo:
measures iscrpre

I am kinda new to android.. My AT&T galaxy s4 is a contract phone. Does it have a lock? Can I still custom recovery and flash rom? Do I

have to unlock?