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[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] hartej:
When I upgraded my device I used an empty extended rom image, radio 1.18, and 2005 Rom. To me this means that there's 16MB of extended Rom sitting unused somewheres, If we can access it it'll give us more room for installing programs.

As for RAM, it might be a bit more complicated. I still don't understand the registry settings, but will continue to tinker.

The only other thing I want working is TomTom3 for my car. It starts to run, but then crashes. My theory is that it's outta memory. I'll be playing around with 2005 for a couple of weeks cause it looks *so* much better than SE, but after that it's back to the old version i'm afraid :(
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] istana_pulau_es:
I did what you did, I thought I can get additional 16M memory but it did'nt.

Only faster upgrade without files in extended rom. :cry:

Pls correct me if I'm wrong... the total memory of XDA2 is 128Mb RAM + 62.5Mb. When I try to read windows folder property, it has 48.86Mb in the directory but the total memory available only 38.9Mb (125.64%). And I still have another 18.08Mb (9.20+8.88) free memory, which mean that the total memory available is only 66.94Mb (which is not include other files other than windows directory).

So I think that the extended ROM is already use by WM2005.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Pyrofer:
A special tool will need to be written to make a ramdisk, it will not be easy but at least no drivers or filesystem need to be written!

Your probably right about TomTom3, in that case there is no way to run it on the XDAII with 2005, just not enough program memory. Unless MS release a patch that lets you use RAM as program memory instead of flash (unlikely), so you will have to go back untill you get a new 2005 pda with 256meg flash :p

"Pls correct me if I'm wrong... the total memory of XDA2 is 128Mb RAM + 62.5Mb. When I try to read windows folder property, it has 48.86Mb in the directory but the total memory available only 38.9Mb (125.64%). And I still have another 18.08Mb (9.20+8.8Cool free memory, which mean that the total memory available is only 66.94Mb (which is not include other files other than windows directory).

So I think that the extended ROM is already use by WM2005"

Ive said this before, wm2005 does not use any ram at all. Prove me wrong, but PROVE me wrong, dont just suggest.

The XDA has 32meg flash for the OS (treated as rom) and 32 that was divided between storage and extrom.

I checked the Motherboard of the XDAII, it has 32meg flash built in to the processor, and a 32meg DOC flash for storage and extrom. The slight size variations come from MS's inability to add up consistantly and the different ways of counting memory :p

WM2005 on XDA2 has 64meg of memory available.

Also remember, the oddities in memory reading from the windows folder come from the fact its looking at TWO different storage locations. The ROM for windows (32meg) and the extra storage space mapped onto it for modified files and working mem.

I still am not sure if the extrom is already used, but the only way to know for sure is, use wm2003, fill extrom with stuff, install 2005, use it, downgrade to 2003, see whats left in the extrom. From those calculations its sounds like all 64meg is in use, no extrom left hidden. poo.

MS are probably going for Flash only in wm2005 to reduce chip count on future devices (read me previous post) so didnt worry about the small memory in XDAII as future wm2005 devices will be designed with 256meg flash and no ram, instead of the small flash we have today.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jdee246:
2005 and tomtom

I've got tomtom working on 2005 but in a slightly different way.

I've been using TomTom Mobile (4.4) on a Smartphone device for a while and I noticed a post saying that MS Smartphone apps will work with 2005 for PPC. For those not familar with TTM, all the software sits on the memory card, hence doesn't take up any of that valuable memory. So I take the memory card out of the smartphone and put it in the xda2 with wm2005 - and lo and behold it works. Slightly weird as you don't have the softkeys or keypad of a smartphone but with a bit of fiddling about you can get it to work. Only works via b/t as TTM doesn't do cable.

JD
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Pyrofer:
Yes, I read about how wm2005 was designed for convergence with Smartphones. They are dumping the old smartphone OS and wm2005 is the basis for all devices now.

That would make sense, ill try some smartphone apps.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] erickbryce:
Ive been reading some of the more recent posts here. Im thinking about using one of the old XDA1 updateRUU's and drop in the new 2005.nbf in there. But it looks like I can save some time because from appearences here, 2005 seems to want to use and extended ROM to load what it cant fit into ROM, right?

Looking for theorizing here as if it doesnt work its a lot of work for me to get it (i have an old xda) back to normal for my sisters graduation present if thats what she wants. So just tring to save a headache project.

If someone can make a convincing argument as to why it would work, I will give it a try(the complience standars are still required by MS which means it shoudl work with only a 200MHZ processor, so we can rule out that as a reason why not to). If it works it will answer the question of where it unloads for sure as ther is only RAM & ROM on this devices.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] istana_pulau_es:
I just found out that if we try to hard reset (press camera+record+power+reset altogether) then we'll get a menu (sorry if this already posted before).

And then when i try to use the navigational key, we'll get another menu:

KITL transport by

rndis+vmini

rndis

async+usb

and there's another below:

active

passive

It seems that we only have half of the ROM. If only we could make it uses RAM to run the program instead of storage.... :?: :?: :?:

too bad, it seems that mamaich has stop explore this ROM :cry:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] S1MB4D:
before i upgrade

before i upgrade i have a few questions such as does it have pdf support yet and when i do a full back up of my old windows can i restore this to the new windows :?:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] gotan:
cant understand...

guys i need help...

i can use the xbackup, i cant use mms, i cant hard reset or format my wm 2005...

can any1 help me how to hard reset i tried pressing the softreset button with the power off button but still dont work.. i even flash my xdaII with wm2005 but still all the old files are there..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] xda2jojo:
a repeated procedure i post

this is a repeated procedure i posted and some member is/are Irritated to see a repeated question and procedure(ewan ko kung bakit sila ganoon...) BUT i love to Help people/members...and advised all to search this forum before posting your question...rules before posting as sir peter poelman says link...

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534

here the procedure kabayan...

hardreset procedure is diff w/ 2k3se: Press:

· Power Button

· Record Button

· Camera Button

· Soft-reset Button with Stylus

In screen(no backlight):

1 Kit = YES------------------------change this to NO

2 Register Hive= No------------should remain NO

3 Storage = No-------------------change this to YES

Note: Use the Recorder Button to Scroll.

Use the Camera Button to change values.

To Save changes press the Navigational Button.

Bootloader mode

. press on/off sw-softreset sw w/ stylus-navigator pad or the big button below

i pm you about the errors
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] eltree:
Finally, upgrade successful. Thanks all. :)

Bluetooth handfree works perfect and most application I used still work.

Less memory is a problem. But I can't install my Pocket Plus to kill running software.

Does anyone konw any program like Pocket Plus, WisBar work on WM2005 to kill running program easily? :?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] xda2jojo:
running program

copy paste to your device and tap to install.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] eltree:
Thanks, jojo. :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
Hi all,

anyone can, please, translate this:

http://www.dstcorp.co.kr/kor/product/01_8_view.asp?id=475&vgoto=2

THANX

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
cool, we can attach the PB kernel debugger...

see the attachement...

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mumus:
Hello everyone,

I want to know if gora has an unlocked bootloader on his phone ?

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] xda2jojo:
request to delete by someone :cry:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] istana_pulau_es:
Re: running program

i have try this software but it doesn't kill the program.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
...sorry, there was no attachement, coz it didn't take .log file...

It means, we can boot XDA2 with kernel debugger attached to it...

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] superperry:
WM 2005 phone skin landscape..

Any news on extracting phone skin landscape from WM2005?

Thanks!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] WGonzales[dC]:
is there any updates about magneto 2k5??
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chimpanzee:
I have an Orange SPV M2000 which is an HTC Blue Angel. can i get a WM2005 rom update for it anywhere? obviously it's not available on this website :wink: [COUGH] but could someone PM me and let me know where i can get hold of it :wink:

If i get hold of it i have somewhere where i can host it and i'll let the rest of you know.

I can't believe i did't know this forum existed until today!! I've wasted so much time!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ramram:
Sorry. It wont work on Blueangel :?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] stoianchoo:
So many problems, so little control

Don't you guys get fed up with the fact that you can't do anything with Windows Mobile at OS level?

With linux you ALWAYS have a chance of fixing a problem! Beacuse you have the SOURCE. I see all this efforts of so MANY people devoted to just installing some BETA software.

Let's turn our efforts in the right direction!

Let's get Linux on the XDA's!

Dont waste your time with so many UNFIXIBLE Windows problems that you have to LIVE with!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] chimpanzee:
Aw. Thats a shame. The main reason i wanted it was for WMPlayer 10. is that available to download anywhere? is it compatible with Windows Mobile 2003 SE?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] cyberja:
I've found somerhing in my storage!!

After restore 2003SE from 2005. I've found that 2005've create many folder in storage!!!! like windows system folder
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] great_abe:
Windows Mobile 2005

Hi,

I am using XDA2 and my OS is pocket pc ver 4.20.0. Can I upgrade

my OS like the MINI XDA has? if yes, where can i download this and how

please reply

thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] elladb:
can i upgrade my 4150 to the 2005 with the file u shared???
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ccrrazzzy:
Google tools!

http://translate.google.com/transla...&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=/language_tools
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
@ccrrazzzy

thanx man, it was translated once before, but Micro$oft ordered to remove that translation from here... guess why...

@micro$oft

so where is our RAM???

I would need a native korean here, coz I have more pages to translate... anyone?

thanx

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ccrrazzzy:
Memory???

Who cares about the memory?? :lol:

With the dumb but holes as MS, they changed the data bases for contacts and calendar and categories so no third party software can read them.. No matter how good the BT is or phone is or the rest of the OS is, with this foolish move from MS.. It is useless. A waste of my time.

I really liked how well the BT hands Free worked too. :?

Lack of memory is an issue but hey, if nothing works, nothing works. There is other software like lowfatinvoice that does not work as well.

MS does this crap all the time.. Look at Exchange Eamil Server database... They use some mix matched BS database that is not very good or expandable and that is why you have to use an SQL server for all the CRM programs.. EVEN THEIRS!

They really need to get someone in there who can chew bubble gum and walk at the same time.

http://www.google.com/language_tools?hl=en to translate stuff in the future.. You have to guess on some words.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
My boot splash screens...

Hi all,

while i got bored waiting for the missing RAM and Ext_ROM solution, i've made these boot splash screens...

Feel free to put them onto your devices.. :o)))

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dazza8082:
MSN

well, it working, besides the RAM issue everything is fine, active sync, IR, BT, GPRS.....all working perfect... contacts sync properly and it seems much faster! if its not using the RAM i gather the battery might even last a bit longer since its not having to use it?? but we shall see.

only really pain is MSN not working, if anyone got a solution to this i'd love to know, ive tried installing PPC MSN 2002, and MSN 8 from my previous O2 EXT ROM to not avail, so any help would be fantastic

Regards
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] hartej:
Agile messanger works.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] vbguru613:
will this work on the sx56 ? i would buy one just for the 2005
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] muhelen:
DIGI malaysia

Hi friends,

just upgraded to wm2005 leaked. work fine except how to set my neworks connections, ie GPRS setting. I'm using DIGI from Malaysia.

Thanks in advance.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] istana_pulau_es:
Anyone know how to install Pocket Informant? because it won't install on wm2005? and smart dialing?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] toenailed:
i cannot guarantee guys if this one will work .. but it works with me

Copy to your Device

Install

then reboot

have fun .. :wink:

-toe
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] kamiar:
Great Toenailed, it is working for me also.

i have another 16 MB of memory now. just if someone can resolve the issue with main memory!!!

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ramram:
@Toenailed

Good workkkkk once again!!! , can you work on the main RAM!! the 128 M.B??!?!?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] svyatko:
hi, i've been using 2005 for a week or so, and there are other few issues that i,ve come across:

1.ACTIVE SYNC Does not stop when i disconnect the device. it keeps on going, saying synchronizing. If you kill it, it comes back on after a while. Bizzarrrr

2. Some of the progs (adobeReader for PPC, TranCreative Wordbook, etc.) Won't install on Storage card Using ADD/REMOVE from AS.It says INSTALLATION UNSUCSESSFUL and automaticaly creates a .CAB file of the actual proggy on your Storage Card. You can install it from there then.

3. I couldnt Get my ORANGE UK GPRS CONNECTION to work. with all customisations, and settings. MAY BE SOME OF YOU DID, PLEASE LET KNOW HOW???

4. Quite few times I got the DEVICE.EXE ERROR. some times when trying to open a TXT message, and some time else. dont remember.

5. NOTES and CAMERA buttons still not working after firs reset. MAYBE SOME IDEAS???

Will post If any other issues will come up. Otherwise IAM VERRY HAPPY WITH IT. GOOD STUFF. JUST A BIT MORE MEMMORY AND THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] svyatko:
By the way thanks for the GIFs and the EXT rom unlocker. works just Great.

Any ideas, maybe there is a tool to change Boot Screen without reflashing/??
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] svyatko:
MicrosoftWindows*CE Memory Models and Usage

I thought maybe that will explain abit, and HOPEFULY HELP our XDA DEvelopers to fix the RAM problem???

Check this Link

http://www.intel.com/design/flcomp/manuals/psm/appendb.pdf
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] xda2jojo:
Extended_ROM

Now the Extended_ROM unhide and unlock(thanks to toenailed...you are such a great), i am using it as a 3rd party program installation folder and additional storage area.

note:Extended_ROM renamed to "xda2jojo"
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] vbguru613:
These pictures are killing me!!! If theres no 2005 for my blue angel .......
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] toenailed:
Registry Persisted

About the Registry Persisted

after editing the registry reboot the device in any of this two method

1. Use a Reset Utility Program like the PHM Reset (Part of PHM Powertoys) or xpShutDown..

2. Turn off the device first before pressing the Reset Button

This two method somehow save what youve been edited in the registry .. And avoid using the reset button directly without turning off the device this causes the os to change back the old registry and lose all the changes youve made.. :wink:

-toe
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] tron_gr:
i have download all of ftp for win2005... but i can update my s100 to 2005...

can anyone tell me a right way to do this?

thnaks!!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dazza8082:
So, that program works for the EXT ROM but what about the area that used to be known as Storage? Under memory it’s listed as being used with only 5MB remaining but we can’t see that 5MB, is it possible to regain that? The 32MB ROM must of been partitioned since only 24MB is available so where’s that extra 8MB? Could that be where the registry is being backed up from?

The registry seems to list a whole bunch of partitions, 7 named FATFS, 1 NTFS, 1 BOOT, 1 BINFS, 2 RAWFS, 1 Binary and a IMGFS.

Which leaves that RAM still missing, there seems to be some registry lines to unhide stuff but as u guys pointed out its getting over written from somewhere else.....other than that its funky!!

byeeee
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] hanza:
registry won't help our ram problem

ram settings are loaded at the begining of booting far before reading registery by wm so there is no chance to set ram from registry :( there could be a chance if we could replace the file (don't remember the name) that sets these things at startup, I don't know how to replace files in the rom package but if someone tell me I could try it
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] zairyaab:
mate.......did everything as stated above....using xdaII with wm2003se (mysteryman edition) installed.......when trying to upgrade to wm2005 I used to get country error first but after reading ur above post i made some changes and now i get error which says this rom upgrade is not meant for my device or if not this error i get error that plug out your device reboot it and run upgrade process again.......

please please pm me and let me know wat do i do ??? ive been tryin to upgrade to 2005 for quite some time now.......but no use.... always fail......

plz help....

thanks

jeetz......
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] zairyaab:
CHILLLLLLLL PILLLLL GOT IT WORKING thanks RR ;)

upgrade in progress lets seee whats WM2005 like..... ?

jeetz....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
\Storage is already used by the OS...

It is mapped to the root of the device \

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] cedric99:
WM2005 for Chinese

Dear all:

XDAII already have WM2005 beta test rom,If I use XDAII for WM2005,How input the T-Chinese for WM2005.Thx~~~

Cedric
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dazza8082:
ah but not all of its visable, so whats the rest doing?

32MB of ROM plus 15MB of EXT ROM give us 47MB's

ignoring tha fact that 15MBs dont sound right, that 15MB is the EXT ROM and is all acounted for.

however, only 24MB's are visable on the root ROM as you put it, leaving a total of 8MBs missing, which may well be were the protected registry files and what not live.

This doesnt include the space that was previously known as "Storage" and thats where i think the other 8MBs have gone to

before the upgrade i had

EXT-ROM 15MBs

Storage (cant remember)

Storage card 256MB

plus the RAM 128MB

i may be wrong but i also thought that this device had 64MB ROM for the actual OS?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] 3Guser:
Re: DIGI malaysia

Call Digi on 0162291800 or get the settings from www.digi.com.my
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Pyrofer:
ok, for those who ignore facts, here it is..

XDA II has 64 MEG FLASH, 128meg RAM thats it.

32meg OS memory built into processor.

32meg DiskOnChip flash for extra storage.

128meg ram in 2 64meg chips.

Ive checked the damn pcb, this is what it has, no doubt no argue.

WM2005 uses ENTIRELY FLASH. this is to prevent data loss in the event of battery failure. New wm2005 devices will have much larger flash storage so this isnt going to be a problem.

The fact that the memory program shows the flash being used for running program memory as well as storage says that wm2005 DOES NOT use ram for programs at all. I expect ms will drop ram from the future spec for devices in order to lower chip count and simplify designs.

The 32meg OS memory holds the windows ROM, its write protected. no way to edit it live.

the 32meg DiskOnChip holds the Storage and Extrom, these are partitione d in some way to 2 roughly 16meg sections.

WM uses the storage partition for storage, Duh. It maps it over the windows directory and all file changes and additions are put in there.

the ExtRom directory is used for running program memory. It kills the extrom.

Remember that due to the way MS cant count, differences in the way they measure Bytes, kilibytes etc (1000 or 1024 people?) and filesystem overhead the numbers wont add up exactly at the end. But trust me, unless anyone can PROVE me wrong, this is what happens.

It may be possible to make use of the ram as a storage disk, but a custom ramdisk program would have to be written.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] tron_gr:
Can anyone tell me if we have any WM 2005 version special for magician? or i can use this (from this ftp server)... and if this for ftp server how can i flash the s100? with MaUpgradeUt.exe with HimaUpgradeUt.exe or flashing via sd card? and where can i get WM2005.nb1 (for magician) to flash the s100? how many bytes i must replace from my (installed) rom to the WM2005.nb1

thanks!!!!

dimitris

athens

greece
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] toenailed:
Extended ROM and RAM MEMORY

For Extended ROM look at this post

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=107880#107880

For RAM look at this thread

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=20312&highlight=
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] eltree:
Re: WM2005 for Chinese

I use ROS Chinese & Monster SIP 4. It work on Windows Mobile 2005.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] buzz_lightyear:
Changing Registry type

Hi all,

in [HKLM\System\ObjectStore] is a reg key "RegistryType=1", which means Hive based registry.

When you set it to "RegistryType=0", which means FILE based registry, all changes you do in the registry will stay there also if you reboot with device's reset button...

BUT AFTER YOU CHANGE THIS VALUE, FIRST REBOOT HAS TO BE DONE WITH SOME SOFTWARE, NOT WITH THE RESET BUTTON.

Subsequent reboots can be done with reset button then.

buzz
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] cedric99:
Re: WM2005 for Chinese

Dear eltree:

Can you upload ROS Chinese Support the last new version.

I search the Google. the ROS Chiense support post it the 2003.

I don't know is OK for my case. So ~~ Can you upload your

ROS Chinese support or E-mail for me.Thx~~~

PS. My E-Maill: cedric.huang@gmail.com

Cedric