yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC One S] Simonna:
That's great to know that this phone has so much supporters and it's still have a chance to receive more updates.:good::cowboy:
[HTC One S] 350Rocket:
I hope if they ignore everyone, they go out of business. Apparently they are not doing well even with the success of the one.
[HTC One S] skinzy98:
Signed
[HTC One S] dragion:
Via Facebook...

A formal email has been sent to HTC.

https://www.facebook.com/HTCOneSContinueUpdates?hc_location=stream
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
That was me. :) Thank you to everyone here for signing the petition. I've released a statement on the petition page, which reads as follows:
[HTC One S] flex420:
233 needed! GO GO GO
[HTC One S] Ergates:
Yes, that's the one I tried - just pops me straight back to htc .com/ uk/ as soon as I hit Submit. Ah well - perhaps I won't need to submit my rant if we get the "new official statement" :)
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Congrats on reaching 5000 signatories milestone.

Are they going to reconsider? chances?

Also the link in the second post of this thread seems to work when refreshed.
[HTC One S] addsfsds:
Signed!!
[HTC One S] El_Svanto:
Signed!

Skickat från min Nexus 7 med Tapatalk 4 Beta
[HTC One S] neilhonky:
signed
[HTC One S] adacali:
Signed..
[HTC One S] DeerSteak:
I don't even own the phone but I signed it. I like HTC's phones better than Sammy's but their update policies have been garbage. Had a Sensation, took forever for ICS to make its way out.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Hopefully not. Apologies for being no help.

They're reconsidering as of right now. I posted another update over at the petition page with the following message. This is a response to me, directly from HTC.

I appreciate your contribution to the petition. :) I fully agree that HTC's phones are wonderful, but the company affects that by providing a grotty update schedule (if any!) and that's what drives consumers away. The problem is that HTC is a good company, but the employees don't completely understand the concept of smartphones.

Yes, you can release 20 phones per year, only maintain software updates for 3-5 of them and ditch the rest within the first month of release, but is that going to help you gain money, reputation and customer satisfaction? Hell no. I'm pretty sure I could run my own phone company better than HTC does.
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
This is Amazing :good: Reached 6000 signatories. Keep it up :good:
[HTC One S] skinzy98:
Seriously why don't a couple of us xda people go in and create an utterly.amazing android phone for cheap our official support could be right here.on xda
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Me and a couple of friends have had this idea for months. It's just getting the money to start and gain the components that seems to be the issue.

On another note, I see it's now over 6,000 signatures. That's great! :)
[HTC One S] iVandal:
Signed!

Signed!
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
A Sickening Update

Hi guys. Some sickening news here for you. A user has reported this to me via Facebook after contacting the company's technical support center:

Make of it, what you will. I guess the Snapdragon S4 users in Europe and Asia have all just been screwed over.
[HTC One S] ravike14:
Well since the s off is available it won't be a problem to anyone. but isn't it weird I mean every phone shares same hardware specs :/
[HTC One S] dragion:
Not sure what to make of this...is this considered "good" news or still "bad" news to us in the USA? :confused:

We all should be receiving updates no matter where we are! :highfive:
[HTC One S] skinzy98:
Even if the other countries don't get updates we can make it work for the others
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Yes guys, I realize this, but the T-Mobile variant in the US has the same specification as the S4 Plus version sold in Europe, and the Special Edition sold in Asia (specifically Taiwan, HTC's own damn country!)

I've sent an email from me to ask for clarification for any S4 users in Europe and Asia. I want answers now.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
I wouldn't pay much attention to that last message from HTC. The reps are ****ing clueless. 99.9%, nobody is getting an update. Even if they say "we are investigating", that's because they have nothing else to say.

Blatantly, the HTC One S is getting no updates. I signed the petition but I'm just being realistic. There's so many variants of the phone around the world (S4, S3, S4+64gb), HTC is probably just trying to cut its costs. The One S was destined to die from the get go :(. Which is unfortunate because it's probably the awesomest phone around, even today. Seriously, the latest flagships get 24,000 points in Antutu? WOOO what you gonna do? Produce and encode feature-length HD movies on it?!? The S4 One S still scores over 12,000 which is far more than anyone would require out of a pocket device. If I didn't have one right now I'd still buy one. I don't want a ****ing mammoth in that doesn't fit in my pocket.

So, screw HTC, let's get the most out of this device as we can thanks to the awesome community on xda, and next time around maybe we'll go for another brand (:().
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
I think it's the fact that some One S devices were shipped with the Snapdragon S3 chip, that's caused all this. If carriers didn't push HTC to bring the phone as quickly as possible, you'd have Snapdragon S4s all around, and a 99% chance of continued updates.

I agree with everything in your post. Great post. :good:
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
:p You replied too quick, I added more lol
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Even more valid points made there. :p

At the time of its release, it offered superior performance to the One X, and also provided users with the exact same camera - exactly what the 2012 One series was about (and now it seems the 2013 series is too...)

That's probably accounted for its popularity. It was marketed as a mid-range device, but gives nothing short of high-end. For anyone deciding between the two devices, the deciding factor should simply be the screen size and resolution. Which one do you prefer? Both will offer great performance.

HTC just proves how stupid its people are. HTC France called the shots to say the phone wasn't getting any more updates. The French HTC website also has the highest rating for the One S, beating the One X at 93%. Another example, HTC released a Snapdragon S4-powered "special edition" with 64 GB of storage in Taiwan. Now, that has been ditched - in the company's own territory. Displeasing your own territory isn't smart at all. :silly:
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
True indeed. And as for the camera, screw last year's phones. I'm sure you've noticed that in the last few months phone cameras have been all the rage. Especially with the new Lumia 1020. And the biggest focus has been on low light (HTC One using it's "ultra pixel" technology, Lumia using its ridiculously oversampled technology, etc), well how about these ridiculously low light pictures I took just today with my 15 month old One S?
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
In all honesty, the camera really isn't so bad that I want to rage about how ****ty the quality is. It's perfectly capable at getting reasonable photos. If you want something to complain about, try a BlackBerry with a crappy 2-megapixel sensor. Wow, even my feature phone (Samsung Tocco Lite) had a 3.2-megapixel camera with better results.

Of course, the One S camera blows both of them away. It's also my first smartphone, so I'm very happy with it. Naturally as time progresses, technology gets better, and so do the phones. It's how the tech industry works, and if you don't expect a better device than your own in the upcoming months, you really should learn more about this industry (this isn't directed at you).
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
My point was that my "age-old" phone is able to capture images that are almost on par with the current flagships and even phones that aren't released yet (Nokia Lumia 1020). HTC just badly messed up with this model, and it's sad.
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Yeah screw HTC.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Oops. :p I misread your post. After looking back at some great outdoor shots, I couldn't agree more.
[HTC One S] lykos:
My next phone is gong to be an Oppa. Chinese brand but they know how to support the community.
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Last time i bought a country variant of a Chinese phone, it couldn't be rooted at all. Maybe untrue for newer phones.
[HTC One S] lykos:
You'll find that the Oppo Find 5 can not only be rooted, but is also supported here on XDA & officially via Cyanogen. The best part? Oppo knows about the roms and heavily promotes them on their Facebook feed. They support the third party development in anyway they can and for first party development they add any feature that is highly requested to their rom.

Posted on their official facebook:

Facebook Link
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Hmmm seems interesting.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Enjoy your choice, I think mine is going to be the next Nexus.
[HTC One S] Galadriel7966:
Signed
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Mine's gonna be x phone.
[HTC One S] lee480:
Just want confirm for my friend.

So all S3 variants of HTC One S confirmed not getting 4.2? What about S4? Most One S outside Northern and Latin America is a S3 variant.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Hi Lee,

There are four variants of the One S:

One S (EU) - Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A @ 1.50 GHz

One S (T-Mobile US) - Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 @ 1.50 GHz

One S C2 (Asia & EU) - Snapdragon S3 MSM8260 @ 1.70 GHz

One S (Special Edition, Asia only) - Snapdragon S4 MSM8260A @ 1.50 GHz

As of right now, there are no official words from HTC that suggest any variant of the device is getting any upgrades beyond firmware. I've been contacting HTC in my own country and they revealed to be no official statement for Europe/UK as of yet, even though a guy who had contacted HTC in Canada had been informed that European and Asian users would be without.

It's hard to determine who is right in this circumstance. If you would like to read some emails I sent to the British department, please click the links below. :)

- Email 1

- Email 2

Regards,

Dylan.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
If the US version gets an update then it should also work on the European S4 variant, because I was able to install all the US RUUs without a problem.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Precisely. The MSM8260A and MSM8960 chips are almost identical with the exception of LTE and support for an additional frequency band used by T-Mobile US with the latter.

And also, we shouldn't forget that the HTC One SV (lower spec'd than the One S) will be getting an upgrade. If that can run it, the One S can.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
http://www.androidnext.de/news/htc-one-mini-new-photos-specs-snapdragon-400-dual-core-1-4-ghz/

I don't if this is a good news or bad news but HTC One mini(One S 2nd gen) just confirmed to be only 1GB ram on stock ver. So, actually there is not much point to upgrade to One Mini.

One mini:

S4 400 1.4G

720P IPS

1GB ram

16GB rom

1.6M Front cam

4M UltraPixel

Zoe

4.2.2 with sense5

LTE

One S:

S4 1.5G

QHD AMOLED

1GB ram

16GB rom

Suck Front cam

8M main cam

no Zoe

4.1.1 sense 4+

Obviously, One mini is still better on average but not much different only if you really need the Zoe, better front cam and 720P IPS. On the other hand, amoled gives you true black and more sensitive touch response. The 4M Ultrapixel also got cons and pros, it's good at indoor but 4M is even worse than One S 's 8M at outdoor. The CPU on One S is even faster(sorry to S3 users), S4 1.5G got faster GPU and dual channel system memory bandwidth.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Everyone says the Adreno 305 is better than the 225 but I think it's actually the opposite. The Adreno 305 may have slightly newer technology, but the clock speeds of the 225 make up for it and in raw performance I believe the 225 outperforms the 305. So really, the One S S4 > One Mini in every way except probably the speakers and screen resolution (which would make the 305 perform even slower for games due to being much higher res).
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
305 is about 25% slower than 225 but 305 supports OpenCL. You're right, One S speaker is too suck I've no idea because the low budget ver of One V is also better than One S on the speaker. But I really like Zoe.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
The One Mini doesn't really sound like a worthwhile upgrade from the One S, judging by what you're stating. Yes, it has LTE but real world speeds would probably be no better than the DC-HSPA+ support of the One S, when you take into consideration the fact that the bandwidth is shared between customers.

In all fairness, no one will bother with newer phones if they can't be bothered to update ones from just a year ago. :rolleyes:
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
It actually not, at least in Hong Kong. LTE is really a lot faster because there are many too much HSPA+ users all over the street and overloaded the 3G carrier frequency. I use very cheap data plan(384kbps limited) because I don't watch videos online or download stuffs, only low speed 3G to me.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
384 kb/s is barely 2.5G :p
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Again, not correct.

2.75G(Edge) in reality usually around 200 ~ 275kbps and 3.0G started from 384kbps. 3.5G/3.75G...yes, you got 7.2M/20M download speed., etcs.

The main different is in 2.75G while you push the speed to the top, no one could call you. In 3.0G(384k), the voice and data channel is totally separated.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
And the maximum quoted threshold of EDGE, is 560 kilobits/sec, which is what I was referring to. Slow 3G exists as EV-DO. HSPA starts at around 3Mb/s.
[HTC One S] stevoknevo:
Signed. Absolutely ridiculous that they aren't updating the One S; personally I think it's a better handset than the One X. I sold my One X after it broke down and I received a factory re-furb unit in exchange, and reverted to my old One S.

Seems like it may be time to root and stick a 4.2.2 rom on it, been a couple of years since I rooted anything :confused:
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
I fully understand and agree with you.
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
Good news for everybody! Seems like HTC One S is to receive 4.2.2 + Sense 5 update after all. All thanks to those who made the effort along with the OP in signing the petition.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
Is there an official source?
[HTC One S] khan.orak:
No, not yet. But when HTC was to cancel HTC One S update and announce it officially, this guy predicted it beforehand.

He's been a reliable leaker.
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
That's great. It also seems unlikely to be released OTA according to a person on the Facebook page.

Congratulations everyone. Thank you for your inputs. :good:

Now, the S3 MSM8260 version needs updating.
[HTC One S] PulpzillA:
Good news.

Now we can speculate what features will make it from Sense 5 and what ones that will be cut.
[HTC One S] panwala95:
Signed

Better suck it up HTC or I stick to Samsung :D
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
It's pretty safe to say that whatever is missing from the HTC One X, will be missing on the One S too. The real question should be, is HTC going to give the One S an identical update with what the One X received?

I haven't noticed the phone struggle with anything in the time I've had it since it was released here.
[HTC One S] bayp4amd:
I think the update does not come with zoe feature as the Butterfly update come with no zoe
[HTC One S] cyberkeeper1:
That may be true, but most of you probably don't have 225 apps installed on your phone. Like me! :D

Sent from my Incredible 4G LTE
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Nope, I have 152. :p

And any features that require the HTC One hardware, won't make it. :)
[HTC One S] cyberkeeper1:
When i had the thunderbolt, it took them 7 months longer to release that freaking update, but the thunderbolt DID in fact receive an ICS update and sense 4. Lagged to heck but it worked and the idea is that is an older phone than the one S/X so I don't understand either on the whole dropped support issue.

Sent from my Incredible 4G LTE
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
I have a theory - the S4 One S version shows approximately 3.5 times better memory throughput performance compared to the S3 version (in selected European and Asian versions).

My friend has a different theory - battery issues. Simply because of the device's design. Aluminum doesn't radiate much heat, and so the top of the battery is where heat is collected in such a manor that battery depletion is quick. HTC apparently fixed this with the HTC One.
[HTC One S] robin216:
who cares what features will come? the devs have sense 5 almost running completely! after the update there will be a full working sense 5 rom for the one s, and im so glad :)
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
It'll also be one step closer for HTC Sensation owners. :good:
[HTC One S] SwagTech123:
Signed
[HTC One S] bilal_liberty:
[MENTION=5338275]DylRicho[/MENTION] I emailed htc about htc one s s3 (Villec2) and got following reply:

Dear *******,

Thank you for contacting HTC regarding your HTC One S.

My name is Katrine and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team.

I understand that you are experiencing problems with finding out if your phone will be updated or not.

To resolve this, ******, I would like you to perform the following steps:

Unfortunately we cannot confirm that the HTC One S will or will not get the 4.2 update, the only thing we can say is that HTC is currently testing if the phone will be able to run the update or if it will not be able to run the update. HTC will only send out updates that will make the phones better and not make them worse, so this is why we do not know if it will come out yet.

Should you require additional support please reply using the link below and confirm the following details.

Full Name:

Address:

Contact Numbers:

IMEI (Found by dialling *#06# from your keypad or in the back of your phone):

To let me know I have successfully answered your query, please follow the link below to close your enquiry, you will have the opportunity to leave feedback about your experience contacting me today.

Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.

To send a reply to this message, please click here.

Sincerely,

Katrine

HTC
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
And I bet HTC will stupidly launch a crappy phone near in the future and stick everything on it that it won't be able to handle. Just look at the Wildfire S...

I would love to know exactly where the issues for the MSM8260 are coming from, in regards to the update.
[HTC One S] Slainou:
Petition just signed !
[HTC One S] s.illes79:
Signed !!!

Was about to buy HTC One, but no thanks after dropping a support for a half year old phone. This is not what they promised .
[HTC One S] InfamousOne:
This is my first htc phone and probably the last, the support is poor but this community is great

Can't help but feel htc have f****d us over

Sent from my HTC One S (S-Off)
[HTC One S] InfamousOne:
Signed!

Sent from my HTC One S (S-Off)
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
Ok guys, it looks like the petition has no result for the moment, but i have an ideea

Ok guys, it looks like the petition has no result for the moment, but i have an ideea...

Let's send each of us an email to our htc local team and tell them how dissapointed we are....

Tell them that you want the update, for HTC One S and One S C2.... Write about the petition, include the number of sigatures, petition link... Be mad on HTC :)) burn to hell if they don't give us the update!!!

This will help a lot, thrust me, let's do it all of us, let's show that we won't forgot about the update and that we are more than 7600 requesting the update!

Do it, you have nothing to lose!
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
See the response i got from HTC from a few weeks back. Basically i sent an email to their uk customer support to express my frustration about not getting sense 5 update, and they then told me:

"Hi again.

Okay, so if you think we are wrong, then let it be. This is a statement from the higher powers at HTC, and unfortunately we cannot do anything about it.

If you are not satisfied, there's really nothing more we can do.

Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.

To send a reply to this message, please click here.

Sincerely,

Delberin

HTC

"
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
Send it again and post what they say. Believe me, i know what i' m telling you. Now is differed but i can't tell you more at this time..
[HTC One S] morphix.net:
This is a ridiculous reply... let it be my ass...
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
My one?
[HTC One S] ryanshew:
To dangerous? Lol, are they gonna hunt you down?

hTConeS | SoFF | ChaRmAnDrOiD | BuLLetprOOf

Inverted Sense 5 Theme Updates+Tweaks

Inverted Sense 4+
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
Someone could lose his job...
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
PM
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
I don't see it
[HTC One S] doggyben:
signed.
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
What are you going on about iban ?
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
I can't tell you at this time... If you want guys to send the email as i sayed, good .....
[HTC One S] :
I always supported HTC and even convinced friends to get HTC phones. Never again. I will only go Nexus from here on out no matter what.
[HTC One S] djsubtronic:
What if the next Nexus is HTC? :silly::confused:
[HTC One S] maddehaan:
HTC One S will get Update to 4.2.2?

Anyway, once you are on CyanogenMod who cares about Official firmware, but still. This is what I received on FB from the HTC Europe peeps (after being very unfriendly):

HTC ЕUROPE Hi, Mark de Haan we have great news for you. If you still use your HTC ONE S it will get update soon. Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5. Thank you !
[HTC One S] skinzy98:
Were you being unfriendly or were they being unfriendly

---------- Post added at 08:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:11 AM ----------

If its a nexus it'll be fully supported :D
[HTC One S] maddehaan:
I was being honest....... ;) I am never unfriendly.... From my perspective ;)
[HTC One S] skinzy98:
I ain't got a problem with that :D
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
If it's by HTC, then we'll have the best of both worlds - updates as soon as they are released (as ordered by Google) + the great metal build quality of HTC.

I have nothing against their devices; their update schedule (if any!) just renders them useless most of the time, and it's pretty sad because the company has some of the best devices on the market. It's a situation where I'd like to back them, but the company's decisions force me not to.

At this moment in time, all S4 models (MSM8260A and MSM8960 - US/Canada, Europe and Asian special edition) are set to receive the Android 4.2.2 with HTC Sense 5.0 update, but there's no set time frame. My guess is that they'll release it and then ditch it again... By the time it has been released, it will put the One S at the end of its 18-month software support lifespan.

And to think that the ancient HTC 7 Mozart recently got a Windows Phone 7.8 update, 36 months after its initial release...
[HTC One S] Ergates:
Any news? :(
[HTC One S] DylRicho:
Unfortunately not. It may even seem like HTC has been lying to us.
[HTC One S] ravike14:
Htc had said that ville users will get the sense 5 update but no official release date... Ville c2 users mite keep ranting cuz no official announces on them.. So it's just a matter of time.. Once they release the source code and stuff in one x and x+ they'll start or release the update for one s
[HTC One S] chris1ee:
Done

Petitioned
[HTC One S] usaff22:
It was never announced officially, they said there would be no more updates
[HTC One S] ravike14:
ATTENTION

alright people all this time it wasnt htc's fault for not rolling out the android 4.2 update its qualcomm's fault...time to sign a patent to qualcomm maybe?? think of your brother phone ville C2 and make one?? ... we can have alot support from every device which runs snapdragon 3 process so this campaign will be easy along with all samsung sony and other brand S3 phones...who's up??

http://androidandme.com/2013/07/new...-forced-htc-to-pull-one-s-android-4-2-update/ :mad::mad::mad:

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[HTC One S] skinzy98:
But see if we get the update it will fix some problems on the c2 variant for 4.2.2 won't it?
[HTC One S] ravike14:
But the new firmware will be missed also different cpu's it'll work yes but it won't be good as a official rom..