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[Nexus 4 General] nyyankees1237:
5 hour days are few and far between for me, I get 3-4 hour days much more often. But let's not deviate from the fact that 5 hour sot are possible.
[Nexus 4 General] namurt:
this just in!

the duration of your SOT is not indicative of the length of your penis!

seriously, why do threads like this even exist? every use case scenario is different, and if you're tailoring your particular use case scenario just to maximize your SOT and then post some screenshots for bragging rights, well... it's a phone. c'mon now! surely you have more important things to do? if not, you should.

i do apologize for the snarkiness of this post, but threads like this just kill me. this kind of drivel takes nerdom to a whole new (and frankly, unnecessary) level.
[Nexus 4 General] fisheyes1:
5 Hours is pretty decent. I've got one of the first models and even running a stripped down cm10, franco, undervolted and under clocked I struggle to get 3.5-4 hours. But to me that's fine for what I use it for!
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
This just in. You don't have to read and/or reply in a thread if you don't like it. People complaining about a thread, yet still replying in it just kills me. Lol. Some people are in search of better battery performance, so it helps to hear other people's setups and what they are achieving from it. This might provide some valuable insight that will help them improve their battery life. A little Viagra for my phone wouldn't hurt a bit. Lol.
[Nexus 4 General] mattoaida:
Guys i made this thread because I was surprised the battery could last so long my s3 same size battery could barely get 4 hours of sot
[Nexus 4 General] namurt:
my point still stands.

this thread if heavy on fluff and light on factual (read: useable) information, rendering it relatively useless. alas, this is what xda has become these days. i still hold onto the "developers" moniker a bit too tightly, when in reality, this site is much more about joe schmoe end user.

if it truly kills you to see someone reply to a thread in a discussion forum, perhaps you don't understand the concept of forums.
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
I guess I am in the minority whom often reach 5 hour sot, 4hr sot happens more frequently though.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Lol. Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. Perhaps you should go back and read what I was replying to, so you can see someone that doesn't understand the concept of forums. I'm not the one that has a problem with this thread, but then again, I didn't realize every thread had to conform to your standards. What has no value to you doesn't mean it has no value to others. As far as I know, most developers like having end users. If this thread has to much fluff for you, no problem, just move on and don't enter it anymore. Problem solved, that is how forums work.

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4hrs seems to be the average, as most people seem to be in the 3-5hr range.
[Nexus 4 General] Roastmeat:
There should be a benchmark test,

Because we could be browsing the internet or playing Modern Combat and comparing SOTs wouldn't make sense

Maybe Average CPU/WiFi usage or time ON?
[Nexus 4 General] blueflash:
advise

I'm on stock have tried Franco milestone 2 and 3 with radios 27 and 33 both seem get same result around 1:45 - 2 hours thats just normall browsing without wi-fi and 9:30hrs on battery down to 14% battery now

my battery screen gives

screen 58%

Android OS 10%

phone idle 7%

mobile standby 7%

maps 4%

facebook4%

I've not touched setting on Kernal thinking default should give best results, advice please how to improve battery life
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
battery/screen on time will depend mostly on how you personally use your phone and how good of a data signal you have. there is no magical setup thatll give everyone 5+ hours screen on time. generally, the less things running or turned on(or maxed) will increase battery to a point.
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Hey guys, no matter what I do to my phone, I always get a max screen on time of around 4 hours. I'm thinking about asking for a replacement as I've tried a ton of kernels, UVd, under clocked and everything. My last Nexus with the speaker buzzing issue never had this problem.. should I try and get a replacement or would that qualify me as an RMA hog?
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
you are seriously gonna go for a rma because you only get 4 hours screen on time? whats wrong with you?
[Nexus 4 General] Vangelis13:
And you've been a member here for almost three years with 1500+ posts on your record..? :(
[Nexus 4 General] dsbrohan:
My my. I just recently got my nexus 4 about 3 weeks ago and I am running stock with Franco 161. I always get at least 4 hours of screen time on and that's with WiFi, no signal because I work in a warehouse, and constant SMS use. My battery is super new, I understand but this is such a step up from my previous Galaxy S2.
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
WHOA Alright alright this is why I asked haha! No, I'm not going to RAM it because you two just completely flipped out. But how many screen on hours do you guys get, and why would mine get any less then the usual if it's not in some way defective? But yeah wow, don't want to be dammed to hell just for RMAing my phone so I guess I won't
[Nexus 4 General] dsbrohan:
There are so many factors that determine how much screen and standby time your phone will get. Geographical location, data and WiFi use, how long your phone is using 2g/3g/or 4g if you're doing that, certain apps that kill like Facebook and maps, and what you're syncing throughout the day. I personally get 4 hours and that's about it but I usually have 26+ hours of standby time. So its all user related.
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
*sighs* Another SOT thread...but while we're at it:
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
i get from a bit over 3 hours to about 5+ hours depending how im using that device, what im doing that day. id say the majority of people get less than four hours screen on time on average, and most people would be happy to have your phone :)
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
I avg 3 I keep my brightness a bit higher then I imagine most people do. I have no complaints.
[Nexus 4 General] dsbrohan:
That's great and all but what's your standby? And hopefully you're not one of those "everything off and all I use is 2g" people.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
absolutely, why didnt you post your usage and battery graph?
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
That's exactly my point. There's no real science behind these SOT screens, as each person's usage varies. In fact, I literally did nothing on my phone that whole day (except keep the screen on, obviously), just to prove that.

I usually get 3-4 hours normal usage and I am content with that.

Sent by carrier pigeon
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
lol, thats what i thought you did and were doing, just making sure :angel:

anyways, i bet we can hit(or nearly hit) 7+ hours screen on time if only watching a movie, on repeat the whole time, being played from the phones storage. depending on our setup and some other variables of course.
[Nexus 4 General] Ulver:
Exactly. I can get crazy screen on times if I let the screen stay on at idle. Everyone will be different. Just turn off your battery indicators and use your phone. If you get to the end of the day without a recharge you win.
[Nexus 4 General] raidrom:
I bet he has a dual battery setup like mine with the nexus battery and a s3 battery
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
14 hours screen on time here we come! :p
[Nexus 4 General] raidrom:
But mo battery mo usage . I will wait till the weekend and just turn my screen on and leave it Lil just to stomp these threads
[Nexus 4 General] klvnhng:
I wish. I'm too much of a wuss to do any internal mods (that is, until my warranty ends lol) :P

Sent by carrier pigeon
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Using my phone in 2g mode is how I get 4 hours in the first place. When I say four hours max, I really mean four hours max. Having my phone stock with no other apps, syncing off, undervolted and clocked at 1000mhz, brightness on low, gps Bluetooth and wifi off, using only apps like the browser or messaging is how I get 4 hours. A normal day I barely get three and for those saying three is alright I'd say that's nuts and there's no way 3 hours is even close to OK.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
I'm oc to 1.7 and I'm getting 4.5-5 hours since switching to ak kernel

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] kurtyyyyyy:
Im getting 4 hours average, and thats WITH facebook and messenger on push notifications, so happy with that i guess
[Nexus 4 General] dsbrohan:
I'm guessing you've taken all the steps to find out if you have any rogue apps, or fully wiped and reflashed? Are you using any mods and or running a custom ROM or kernel? Because with your setup I would be getting 6+ hours of screen time. So you definitely have something app or hardware related.
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkya4793:
I think it really depends on how much of CPU is used for how much of time. Like you can't compare X hours of N.O.V.A. gameplay to X hours of reading any eBook!

I listen to music for more than 1 hour. 1.5 hours of WhatsApp. Hardly 2 hours of browsing. Trying new customizations and apps. No gaming and I get 5 hours of screen time not more than that. And keep in mind that I have done almost everything to save battery. And don't judge me on how I get that much of free time, I am on vacations and my Nexus is just 2 weeks old! :D
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Yeah I put it back to stock just to make complete sure I had no rouge apps. I've gone from stock back to cm10.1 multiple times and tried many different tweaks on multiple corners over the past few months but I still haven't been able to break even 4 and a half hours of screen on time. With this I have to at least consider the possibility of it being defective.
[Nexus 4 General] danyh_rrt:
its very god man !
[Nexus 4 General] sidnoit22:
I get around 5-6 screen on time with Browsing, Facebook, Gmail etc.
[Nexus 4 General] arpitnathany:
5 hours sot doesn't seem too hard, this is just my second charge connected to wifi and mostly browsing.
[Nexus 4 General] arpitnathany:
On a side note standby on wifi seems to be about 0.5-0.66 % per hour and total sot for me would be about 6 hrs on constant use. screen on auto brightness, on higher brightness 4 hrs sot would be the norm.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Are you kidding me you are getting almost 4.5 hours sot and you think your device is defective lol.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
Hmm maybe someone should read my other posts on the subject before looking like an ignorant dweeb...
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
hes not being an ignorant dweeb, hes telling you how it is. most folks would be happy with your device as it can reach 4.5 hours screen on time, it doesnt matter that you tried to get more than 4.5 hours and cant. the folks getting 6+ hours are not really pushing their devices in any way. and if you cant get 5+ hours not really using your device, just leaving the screen on, then its your setup.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm the last person looking like an ignorant dweeb here lol

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
Has anyone managed to get 7+ hours?

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
yes, just leaving their screen on and doing nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lol yup....

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
That's pretty much how I ever got more then 4 hours. Only extremely undervolted, ucd to 1000mhz.. that's why I say hes ignorant because he either overlooked that or didn't read my post . On average I only get 3. 4 is my max just like how people getting 6 is their max. Would people be happy getting only 3 hours of screen on time? I don't think so.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
have you tried not undervolting much? if the voltage is too low, you might actually use more power by the phone having to try harder.
[Nexus 4 General] snak3ater:
Still got 13% left so I can easily cross 4hrs sot. been playing plants vs zombies like crazy all this time. I normally get 5hrs sot easily if I play games but not like crazy lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Logomotph:
I tested mine a month ago and by the time it died, I had 6 and bit hours of screen time. The last hour was basically me trying to kill it. I'm pretty impressed.
[Nexus 4 General] krish0809:
Using stock rom rooted flashed franco kernel and very happy with the performance :):):)
[Nexus 4 General] tiru.adi13:
How much do you guys get on heavy HD gaming?

Sent from my Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I get 3 to 3.5 with basically every kernel and I uv to 1242mhz just so you know. That seems to be common for using mobile data. On Wi-Fi I get more but it seems the majority of users get what we are both getting. I apologize if my post offended u.

Ignorant it's a strong word so watch how you use it ;)

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
I've tried a lot of different voltages

But doesn't that bug you? Our max is everyone else's minimum.. and like I said a few pages back, my last Nexus 4 was just fine and I could easily get 5 hours of screen on time. The thing I'm upset about is how everyone's criticizing me for considering it being a defect.. but should it really fluctuate that much between devices?
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
this is not true. the far majority of users get only between 2-3 hours screen on time. not many get over 4 hours. and the reason that this screen on time fluctuates so wildly between devices is that every single person uses their device differently, plus all tbe different variables of how these people have their devices set up, plus all the variables of the phone/data signal quality. you will not find 2 people using their devices the exact same way, with the exact same setup, with the exact same signal. and i doubt that your last n4 was setup in the exact same way(even tge same rom/kernel but updated now), and probably wasnt used the same exact way, and the signal could be ever so slightly worse now.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
This^^^

I ran my nexus4 today without charging to see what I would get as I hardly ever let my battery get below 40% without charging. I'm on pa btw with trinity kernel which is an amazing kernel. But I know you know about this amazing kernel Simms ;)

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
That is some horrible battery life ^

When your phone dies leave it off and charge it till it is full, then turn it on.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
5 hours isn't hard to accomplished once you're rooted...

I've went over five before.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
On Wi-Fi I agree. But on mobile data it's not possible for some phones. Not all phones are created equal and peoples factors towards the way their battery is used varies. If I leit phone sit on with everything turned off and not use it yes my battery will possibly hit 5 hours sot. But I've never tried it as what's the point . It's awesome that your phone can do it but not all can. I've owned multiple nexus4's also so I know how the same exact setup differs phone to phone.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^^.^

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I disagree as I'm on mobile data not Wi-Fi. See my above posts also

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] Hypoxic1:
No, no...

That IS crappy battery life. Perhaps try the turn off, charge to full, let it sit a few hours (which it'll do by itself if you charge at night), then turn it on and use it method.

The battery gets re-read or re-calibrated when you boot. If you never let it run down enough to give it a range, it won't know where true zero percent is. Even though these batteries don't suffer from the "memory" that old battery technology did, the Android battery calibration on the Nexus 4 does seem to have issues here & there. I had issues when I first bought the phone - then I plugged it into a wall USB socket (you know those ones with the USB in between 2-110's).
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
I wrote a post responding to you on this earlier and I guess it didn't post as I look back. But basically in a shortened version as I can't remember a lot of what I posted this was what I wrote. I think our screen on times are the norm. People who get 5 hours sot are the exception not the rule unfortunately. I've tried everything when it comes to my battery even tried replacing the battery but nothing much changed. My other nexus4 I owned even got worse battery using the same setup but I sold that one. On Wi-Fi yes I get 4.5 to 5 hours sot but on mobile data it's just not possible. Like I posted above If I turned everything off and just let my phone sit on but don't use it then it's also probably possible. Factors beyond our control like signal strength contribute allot to our battery times also. I apologize if my first post to you offended you. I posted without looking at the full context of your post you where right so I apologize for that. I just think that people see this 5 hour sot and think why can't I reach that and they also aren't seeing the whole picture. People are falsely thinking that 5 hours is normal and its not. Cheers

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<

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Dude I've tried everything trust me. I used to obsess over battery sot but I don't anymore. I work in a truck so I always have a place to charge my phone and I also own mutiple phones. I appreciate you trying to give me some tips though but I've come to accept that this is what I'm gonna get out of my specific situation. With factors such as my areas signal strength and I do believe that the type of battery I get is the norm for this phone. Like I said in another post if I use WiFi I can get 5 hours sot but it's just not possible in mobile data. Also I'm a very heavy user so when my screen is on its being used. Lots of game playing and or pages being loaded.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
heres my 5 hours +. i left work and unplugged at about 758pm est today, took the train home from work, about 1 hour 40 minute trip, watched an hour of the new gi joe movie, and played nfs. on my way home after the train, i chilled by the bay and did a lot of browsing(includes facebook, since i dont have the app installed) and g+, on my walk home too. at home i mostly used the browser, some phone calls, watched the rest of gi joe, and a documentary about the universe. so, id say that i had about 3 hours of watching a movie/documentary, and using the web mostly, a few phone calls, a little gameplay, and using a bunch of apps for not that long at all. i did have it on airplane mode the 70 minutes that i was underground in the subway, then mobile data(lte). this was real use, and not just leaving the screen on. btw, for my daily use, i use trinity kernel/rasbean rom, with the cpu clocked at 1026mhz/384mhz, with all four cores set as a minimum, fsync off, and thermal throttle disabled. and my apps do not misbehave at all, ive taken care of that. i dont normally get these stats, but sometimes they pop up. usually im between 3.5 and 5 hours. now its bedtime :)
[Nexus 4 General] XxSilent22xX:
I see that you are on mobile data, and i also noticed you have no voice calls either. your screen on time isn't what i am worried about, it is your total phone time of 5hrs 31mins. on mobile data i get between 3-4 hour SOT too but with 12ish hours for phone time, and that's with everything turned on. the only time i reach 4-5 screen time is on wifi at home with brightness on low and 1 day phone time.
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Yes but it's almost constant use. I get around 3.5 hours sot no matter how many total hours doesn't really matter. My idle drain is very low so when the screen is off it basically drains nothing. So I can have 18 hours total with 3.5 sot or 5 hours total with 3.5 sot it doesn't really make a difference. In theory a perfect battery only drains while the screen is on. So basically I'm gonna get the same sot time no matter how many total hours.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Nexus 4 General] Hypoxic1:
Yea, actually the TOTAL time on battery is too what I refer, not SOT. I believe you have a rogue app. I have all the Google stuff on & syncing normally, stock ROM, Franco Kernel & use the phone loads. I get nearly 2 days out of mine with average use. Just saying that 5 hours is way off. I can get over 3 hours with all 4 cores running at maximum (playing games).

I suppose none of this matters since you DID mention that you keep it charged in the truck. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] DowntownJeffBrown:
Again I could do that to if I hardly used my phone. A phone in idle uses hardly any battery. What really matters is the time your phone spends with the screen on. So aa said above I could get 18 total 3.5 sot or 5 total 3.5 sot. Those other 13 hours spent in idle use no battery. So if I split up my sot time between 18 hours or 5 I'm still gonna get about the same sot. My phone isn't using a lot of battery while in idle if any battery at all. Look at the end of my battery pic below while I was sleeping last night. It's a straight line for hours so if I had more idle and less use thought the day I could get many many more hours of total time on battery. But I'm a heavy user I use my battery up with my screen very fast. By this straight line I have while my phone is off it shows me I have no rouge apps. I use greenify to hibernate all my apps except a few. Cheers

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^