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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jt3:
The latest from the Wiqiqi Indiegogo Campaign.

Well, #@$(*&#@$.

I can kind of see why they were spooked off (assuming it wasn't a scam all along, but I don't think it was). The S4A water resistance is highly questionable as it is. It seems that while some units are, others obviously aren't, and the latter usually have nothing to do with the back panel. The Indiegogo campaign promised that this would allow wireless charging, while still allowing the phone to be water resistant -- a lofty claim if any given unit wasn't water resistant in the first place.

Yes, this pisses me off... more so, if the promised refund doesn't go through, but honestly, I'm torn. I want to blame these guys, but when I look at how Samsung has practically pretended that this model doesn't exist from the beginning... Well, I kind of want to blame Samsung just as much.

Originally, I bought this phone as a stop-gap to get me out from under Verizon's thumb. I originally planned to get the Nexus 5 when it came out, but I found myself pretty happy with the phone overall, even though there are some quirks that I'd like to see worked out (touchscreen hyper-sensitivity, anyone?), and I was finding myself thinking that the N5 would really have to impress me to get me to switch -- but more and more, I'm convinced that I bought a phone that will receive zero support. (Pseudo) Water-Resistance be damned... The N5 is looking awfully compelling to me again.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] DrWebster:
I'm with you. It just seems that neither the carriers, nor the aftermarket, nor Samsung seems to care about the S4A. I was really hoping for the monsterwatts insert so I don't have to worry about the USB flap, but now it looks like there will never be an option to keep the phone waterproof like it's supposed to be...either you use an insert that may compromise the seal on the back, or wear out the USB flap.

I'm getting more and more tempted to swap for an Xperia Z1; it has port/slot flaps too, but there's a magnetic charging dock and I haven't heard of any water resistance issues.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] my-blue-snog-box:
I requested the regular S4 charging receiver. When I got a warranty replacement from at&t earlier this week, they also sent a back piece/battery cover. The first replacement didn't come with one.

I figure that I can mod one I'd I need to, and keep the other for when I really need the water resistance
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wngstr:
Mugen power have brought out an extended 5500mAh battery for the Active.

It comes with a extended battery door cover that supports wireless and NFC.

If you look at the 4th pic on their product page it shows the battery door cover with what looks like rubber sealing, that matches the sealant pattern of the original, so may suggest that it also keeps the waterproofing (or water resistance!) You can see the wireless contacts built into the back cover too.

The drawbacks seems to be that it will make your Active ridiculously fat, and costs $90.

As a new user I can't post external links but its the one on their mugenbattery.com site. They seem to have multiple sites, but only the one on the mugenbattery.com site shows the inside of the battery cover.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gtdRR:
Here is the direct link. http://www.mugenbattery.com/mugen-power-extended-5500mah-battery-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-active/

Very interesting because it definitely shows a gasket but there is no mention of "water resistance".
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] g0rnex:
s4 active wiqiqi wireless reciever.

wiqiqi made a wireless reciever for the s4 active and it was on pre order for a while.

now can't find it anywhere.

does anyone here know where I can still buy this?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Laum:
They failed, refunded and cancelled the product :/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Avail211:
Yep :( Seriously looking into getting a regular S4+wireless coil+Seidio OBEX or Lifeproof case. I'm confident in my S4As but the weak point is the USB cover. I've barely had this phone 6 months and I'll be amazed if the cover last another 6. I'm extremely careful with it but it's still not nearly as sturdy as my Rugby Smart was. The wifes USB cover is about at it's end, I'll probably last another month or 2 IF I'm lucky.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] cre8er:
MonsterWatts Please Give Design To Offshore Company!!

This is completely ridiculous!

I know Samsung probably paid you guys more than you would have made on the product. I understand that this is how the corporate world works in the USA. But OffShore sellers can easily sell this product on the US market(primarily on Ebay) without any fear of retribution.

Give your brother in law that wants to make an A$$load of money the contacts for your manufacturer in china, and have him start selling it through an Offshore company.

Or, give us the contacts for your manufacturer and we will do it.

The design is not patented or anything. You have no responsibility since you are not selling it.

If the design just happened to start being sold in China, there is nothing Samsung can do.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] my-blue-snog-box:
Has anyone heard anything from Monster Watts? I requested the S4 receiver and have yet to hear anything
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ShimaMiku:
Same here. I requested the S4 charger and I haven't heard from them yet.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] raytseng:
So, can you pros please help out my noobness.

If I order the wiqiqi S4 (regular) receiver. What do I need to know about getting it to work for my S4 Active.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] billcoff:
I got this reply this morning to my request to send me the S4 Active Wireless Receiver with NFC or send me a refund:

"Hi,

The one that we are allowed to sell is for charging only and does not have NFC support.

Please let us know if you want to get the $15 refund AND a free S4 receiver, or full refund of $22."

As I already have a wireless charger without NFC support, I opted for the full refund.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ShimaMiku:
Well look at what came in the mail today. Not only did they send me a receiver, but they sent me their "waterproof" one with NFC support (as I had requested when I asked for the S4 charger but if they still refused, just send the S4 one anyway). Also, I found out why they decided on that weak little connection part (that I pointed out earlier in this thread that they should revise). Come to find out, the actual back panel is shaped that way with respect to the gasket - something I didn't take into consideration before. I've attached a photo of that to show what I mean.

I haven't tested it for waterproofness, and to be honest, I don't really plan to. I've tested its wireless charging with the Nokia Qi pad and it works just fine. I haven't tried NFC though.

I hope you guys get yours soon. If you have any questions, I can try and help.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] my-blue-snog-box:
Jealous! I asked for the Active one too, but got the one for the regular S4 :/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ShimaMiku:
For anyone that hasn't submitted a selection to them and still would like a receiver (or if you requested a refund and haven't gotten it yet), here is the email that I sent to them that resulted in me receiving the original design:

Hello,

I would like to still have wireless charging for my Active, so I would like to take that route you offered (I elected the $22 perk). Do you know if NFC will work with this alternate charger that you are offering?

I understand the qualms regarding retaining water resistance with the receiver you were designing but would it be possible to get my hands on one? I like the "made for" design of it and whereas water resistance will be comprised, I can just remove the receiver in situations where I will be around water.

In any event, I would still like a wireless receiver. Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] g0rnex:
official wireless receiver

How can i know if a company is busy making an official receiver for the s4 active?

Cus so far i i heard nobody had made one yet (charging + nfc) not Samsung, not any other company...

---------- Post added at 01:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:54 PM ----------

So you have the pre order from wiqiqi? Can't order one anymore at http://vivealive.net/. What should i do sent mail?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Avail211:
None are. At all. You can (supposedly) put the regular S4 receiver into the S4A but the waterproof capabilities are gone from what I understand.

It sucks, this phone pretty much demands wireless charging. I'm debating on selling the S4A and get a regular S4 w/OBEX case (or a Nexus 5 if someone comes out with a waterproof case).
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] g0rnex:
so wiqiqi also has given up?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ShimaMiku:
Yes they have. When you go to the indiegogo project for it that I and others here backed, you can see they cancelled the program for liability reasons. I really don't know what the reason they sent me the original design was, but I guess because I asked nicely? No idea.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] g0rnex:
ok, maybe i will ask them nicely too :p
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] elpkingbad:
nice mod
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] nemo121886:
Which phone do you have?

Which phone do you have. I have been looking for a stable CM Mod for the S4 Active i537.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] taffhayer:
good mod :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] crpntr:
Question please. Would getting extra batteries and charging externally be a problem (removing and replacing back cover at least once a day) ?

obviously wireless is the way to go but seems unlikely (without mod).
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] konvalink:
I have two batteries, but changing it like once per week, when I dont have time to charge it normal way. I think plastic cover is not happy at all :( And another way is to make battery little bit thinner to close cover properly with wireless receiver.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] crpntr:
ya I have not removed battery door yet (only have phone a week) but I bought 3 batteries + charger + extra door (spare). Love the phone but gradually leaning towards too many drawbacks (shame on Samsung/AT&T). Still we will see , I havn't got rid of my sIII yet. Well done everyone who knows how to and then does mods and hacks for the rest of us , A big thanks to ye all.

edit- I just saw the post about the flap only being for dust so yeeah that's great news indeed. no worries bout the flap now at all.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ozymaster:
Does any one make a wireless charging case? Sort of like the extended battery cases but with qi?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robroy_fr:
MUGEN extended battery case with QI

For an extended battery case with QI look for the MUGEN Power Extended 5500mAh Battery for Samsung Galaxy S4 Active (HLII537XL).

According to information from MUGEN the battery has an integrated NFC-chip and the back-cover / battery case has a built-in QI-receiver.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Avail211:
You will lose water-resistance with this. At least the manufacture doesn't specifically say it'll keep it any way.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] punishit:
Wireless Charging Notifications

Hello,

I charge my s4 wireless on the nightstand while I'm sleeping.

It's making me crazy at night.

1) The screen wakes up when it reached 100% = Screen wakes up (Battery full Notification)

2) Because of the 100%, Qi stops charging = Screen wakes up

3) After some minutes Battery reached 99%, so Qi starts charging again = Screen wakes up and plays sound (or vibrate on loudness)

Step 1-3 repeated till I get off my phone from wireless stand

Anyone have a solutions for this Problem?

What I have done:

First I rooted my phone, otherwise I see no chance to solve that Problem.

I installed Wanam Xposed

1) Solved= Hide Full Battery Notification

2) Solved= Screen off on disconnecting power plug

3) Not solved= There is an option to hide the Wireless Dialog, but the screen still wakes up and Notification Sound plays
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Rewind:
I dont experience this problem.

Only the light goes on when battery is full. But then it just stops charging and stays at 100%.

Doesnt disturb me at all

with the original firmware
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] pitrus-:
Have you tried the wireless charging xposed? It's supposed to be able to remove sound and vibration.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] punishit:
yes, didn't work.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AlexDem:
Are you sure? I see silicone sealing gasket on this cover.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Avail211:
Try it out and see. If it fails (the manufacture doesn't say it'll keep its water-resistance) at least you can get another S4A from ATT.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AlexDem:
Anyway, it worth to try, but with silica gel in battery place. ))))
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Tinypro:
I use the wireless charger lumia (DT-900), and Lumia 820 back cover wireless charging.

I want to mod wireless charger for the i537 is not?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] idle0095:
That will only work for 4.4.2 Kit Kat.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] stumo5:
I have cobbled together a qi charging loop for my s4a. I used one of those new 0.6mm thin loops for s4 off ebay. I had to cut the loop down a fair bit so that it remains entireley within the gasket. There is only so much you can trim it down without totally cutting the circuit tracks.

The only thing is the smd components interfere with the microSD card. You have to sort of angle the loop a bit so that it fits snug on top of the microSD card. If you don't run a microsd card then it would be g2g.

I also peeled off the white sticker/cover on the loop to gain that bit more clearance. But that wasn't enough, so...

I also sanded down the inside of the back cover, and removed the tab that locates the microSD card. This is not a clip, its just a protrusion. All of the clips on my back still function and there are absolutely no bulges.

I haven't tried it for waterproofness yet lol. I'm probably going to run a bead of dielectric grease around the gasket just to fully seal it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] боиззана:
Its perfectly a invention. I will absolutely try. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gorcorps:
How's this been working?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] stumo5:
Its really good. I don't ever have to fiddle with the USB flap anymore. One thing I've found is that the phone needs to be placed on the qi charging pad very accurately, otherwise it goes into a constant charging/unplugged cycle when the battery gets full. If you locate it properly it doesn't do this and just stays at 100%. Ive also put the heatsink grease around the gasket and it seems to still be waterproof so far.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] system3rd:
where did you buy it? I couldn't find same thing..:crying:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] stumo5:
I got it on eBay. Just search for "thin s4 qi charger" or similar. Its actually got a white coloured sticker one one side (which I removed). This is the one I got...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/321248188286

And a photo of it...

However, I have just found out the NFC doesn't work any more. I think because I peeled off the white label, it was a kind of foil backed label. Oh well, I don't use NFC anyway. I guess you don't really need to peel off the label. YMMV.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bbstrikesagain:
I searched for that, found one looked just the same and listing stated 0.6mm but in fact it's 0.95mm thick - mostly due to the thickness of the rubber foam layer between the flexible PCB and white sticker. Lifting a bit of sticker takes it back to 0.85mm. There'll need to be a lot of sanding to make room for that. Looking for a genuine 0.6mm version...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] lseowyon:
successfully mod S4 active wireless charging

hi guys, thanks for all the information in this thread. I've managed to get the wireless charging working and all the S4 active case "clips" fully clipped. But I have not think of a way to "safely" test the water-tightness, probably not testing it.

1) I've bought this S4 wireless receiver from a website called Tmart.

2) I've taken out the plastic covering to expose the coil and the circuit. I wanted to shift the 2 contact points to allow me to re-position the coil so that I can close all the cover clips. So I went to a shop that repairs mobile phone to help me so some soldering professionally. Attached are some of the images.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newton123:
ViveAlive & Monster Watts wireless charging not honouring refund

I ordered a wireless charger through the vivealive.net website and, like everyone else was told it was cancelled. I can deal with that. What I can't stomach is the total lack of any contact from them or any other site regarding refund or alternate product, I have sent them countless emails and no response, I have not received a refund nor have I received a s4 pad.

What is the secret to getting them or monster watts to honour there offer of a refund or an alternative product.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oori002:
Hey buddies

Looking this thread and couldn't get a clear answer.

Is our S4 Active can hold (and still be waterproof) any qi receiver that can be purchased on Ebay? (S4 qi receiver for example)

Will be happy for a link for compatible product or similar one :)

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] konvalink:
Impossible

I think it's impossible to put wireless receiver under original cover and don't break water resistance... Because the space between battery and cover is 0,1mm!!! You can put here one slice of paper at the most. Of course, you can sand the cover a bit, but I'm not sure about water resistance, when you put something here and the silicon seal doesn't fit perfectly.

I think there is only one right way - make thicker back cover with wireless receiver installed inside. But it's available only for S4.

I had my own idea... Today I installed receiver into outer silicon cover and put out two wires from inside of phone. Wireless charging is working, phone is water resistant and no sanding was used:) I am testing the prototype now, but I can make some pictures, if someone is interested...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] R_AL_Sim:
it is possible

I bought one of the white s4 qi chargers off ebay and pulled the stickers off i then removed the gasket off the cover and glued everything together with RTV silicone I then sealed up the usb charger cover with RTV and the phone is waterproof and has wireless charging I had to leave an area for the speaker as the first time i tried i covered the speakers and the phone was really quiet.

oh its also hell of a job to get the back cover off again but can be done but then you have to scrape all the old rtv out and put new rtv in when you put it back plus now i feel safer about getting the phone wet
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oori002:
How did you put the two wires out of the cover without interrupting the sealing?

Will be happy for some pics :)

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gorcorps:
The only way I can think is to drill holes in the back for the wires to the contacts, then seal that with silicone caulk. I'd like to see pics too.

I might buy a spare cover and qi adapter to try that with. I use a case anyway so having it external won't matter to me.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] luluchambler:
Hi there, wouldn't this theoretically work with the Xperia-Z and where do i get one of those Palm-Coils without buying a whole Palm Pre?

Just asking as i really hate that not all Smartphone aren't using this kind of technology even in todays flagships :(
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] idufour:
QI Battery

Hi! I`m new around here and with my S4 Active. Anyone try the battery with the IQ receiver in it that they are offering in DX? I cant post the link....sorry
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Rewind:
http://www.dx.com/p/qi-standard-wireless-charging-receiving-1900mah-battery-for-samsung-galaxy-s4-white-black-302982#.U3OOBPl_tQ4

Do you mean this one?

This could solve the problem...if it really works..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] idufour:
Exactly that one rewind!

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thewarhawk:
It seems to be the same size(or a bit thinner from their dimensions) than the OEM battery..but it does have a smaller capacity, 1900 mAh vs 2600 mAh. It makes sense since they have to fit the charging mechanism in the battery. That kind of puts me off because I can barely make it through an average day with the battery life I get now.

So, it seems like it should work without compromising the water seal, however there is a trade off of battery life. Let us know if you try it!:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Rewind:
But also the charging voltage is higher at 4.2V instead of 3,7V.

I can't find any reviews. otherwise it would have tried one.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oori002:
Please let us know how it works :))

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] terisse:
Hi there,

Just ordered it, I'll make a feedback.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] terisse:
Aaaarg not saw that capacity delta :silly:

Anyway, I will have 2 batt so can use the wireless one for normal (working) days, where my phone stay on the table (QI charger maybe) almost the day and taking the second one for power outdoor usage (party, sport, party, meeting, party etc...).

Today with 12 hours on I still have 33% with a good usage and push mails with pretty simple tricks on rooted sammy rom : battery FU, freezing bloatware and selecting battery friendly apps :cool: what else !
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oori002:
So... How's the new battery?

Did anyone tried that? :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] TKhawk01:
Any updates? I really want one of these even if I have to sacrifice some battery life to keep it water proof.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] idufour:
Hi! Any update with the battery? pictures from the DIY with the outside Qi receiver?

Thx in advance :D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jason7391:
I just bought a qi and the pad off amazon and I'm having issues with it and was looking for some help.

when i put the phone on the charger it charges for a few seconds then all of a sudden it stops. If i lift up the phone and put it back down it restarts the cycle again. I have tried on different pads and the same thing happens. Do any of you have any ideas?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] R_AL_Sim:
I have that issue with my charger at work but my charger at home works fine the chargers your using are they cheep ones or god ones

Also the charger at home is on a 5v 2A wall socket but the charger at work is plugged in to two USB ports

Might be an idea to look at your chargers first.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oori002:
How do you guys was able to put the qi pad inside the back cover? Or do you use the battery with the qi pad inside it?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jason7391:
i tried every charger i have and none of them work
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] terisse:
QI embedded battery

Hi all,

Just a small report of the QI battery.

It work great so far with all QI charger tried.

Just something tricky at first, the QI receiver is in the battery so it never show a charging indicator on the phone.

The size is not so fit, have to sand alf millimiter at the bottom but no big deal.

It took 4 to 5 hours for a full charge.

So it is a GO for it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bbstrikesagain:
S4 back?

Okay, I've been using a cut down sticker and thinned back cover (scraped down with XACTO curved blade from about 1mm to 0.4mm) for months now, and I've tested and proven the water-tightness. But (a) it gets warmer than I'd like and (b) it weakens the NFC. Looking to better options.

Did anyone try the fairly obvious trick of canibalising the parts from an S4 back?

[IMG="S4 wireless charging and NFC back"]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xq3NtPz01Ig/UyJhpyDl9nI/AAAAAAAAAPk/i5TW0I-ll2U/s1600/s4-antennas.jpg[/IMG]

These are getting cheaper, like about £13, so worth a try?

Looks like a thick copper wire coil, with the ferrite FAM (Flexible Absorbant Material) neatly localised to the RX coil, so should be more efficient if it can be made to fit.