yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] hondoslack:
What are your error messages? Have you wiped market data, and tried again? Reboot? There are many causes and solutions for market issues, but we need more detail.

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Just a further note, for any observers, Verygreen seems to think this is kernel related, and I am leaning towards that too. I didn't realize we're running a 3.0 kernel on these builds, and some hacks may be needed to allow more manufacturers mice to work. He only has an Apple bt mouse, and it works. We'll see, I guess.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] valdesr11:
I haven't been on XDA for a while but was just checking in since I am interested in purchasing a good tablet for cheap. The Nook HD looks like a great deal here in Miami. This ROM might have made up my mind on going through with the purchase. Just wanted to say thank you for the hard work and sharing it with the rest of us. Can't wait to get back to flashing!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mrbeardy:
I picked one up a few days ago as I had wanted a cheap non-widescreen tablet with a good screen. I've been very impressed so far, Carbonrom has all the extras cyanogen doesn't and it makes for an excellent tablet. Its not great for games but perfect for reading.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] valdesr11:
I'm actually now considering getting the Nook HD plus. Not so much more expensive for quite a bit more bang. Regarding the games, what is it that sucks? It crashes or lags a lot? Also, I saw a video with someone using an hdmi output cable. Do you know where I can get it?

In case you guys are interested, this is the reason why the nook is so cheap:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33153_7-57591141-10391733/does-it-still-make-sense-to-buy-a-nook-hd/
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mrbeardy:
It was the HD+ i was talking about, forgot to make myself clear. Its not great for games simply cos of its age, the cpu is comparatively "old". Its just hit and miss to find games which run well. Asphalt 4 was a bit too slow to play well, but Modern Warfare 4 seems to run really well. Galaxy on fire 2 runs fairly well also. Its probably the high res screen which causes the games to not run so well. There are other threads which deal with this in more detail. I havent had any crashes, everything seems very stable.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
With my usage of the two devices, I actually prefer the buttery smoothness of the HD over the larger screen on the HD+, until I want to watch some Netflix or hulu and then the HD+ gets used.

Some games like NFS most wanted work surprisingly well on HD+ while others like The Dark Knight Rises are nearly unplayable for me.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] valdesr11:
According to the stats, the plus has a better processor. Shouldn't it be smoother?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
Looks like the Carbon team is now focusing on 4.3, I guess you'll be seeing something soon from them? Or, is that two weeks. :D HBO just has to fix their app and then I'll be ready to GO to 4.3 on my HD+.

Right now, I'm on B11 and it's running great. I've been reading about reboots in the CM 10.1 thread, I get absolutely no reboots. It does get a bit laggy from time to time but I'm used to it. I'm not a big gamer, Bard's Tale is the only game I play with any real motion in it and it runs fine. This thing really shines for me watching movies, streaming or otherwise.

Anyway, looking forward to an eventual release of Carbon 4.3, or maybe some new secret sauce that you brew. :)

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jpisini:
It depends on the games. I am a light gamer things like zombie racing and temple run are great. I don't play any of the 500mb plus games out there. B11 works wonderful.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
They actually both use the same OMAP 4470 processor, only difference being the HD+ is clocked at 1.5 instead of 1.3. Not really a significant difference, especially that the HD+ has to push more pixels on a larger display size.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] valdesr11:
Ha, your right!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reed-Sternberg:
Speaking of OMAP 4470, I remember talking about overclocking HD+ to 1.8 GHz at some point, but nobody mentions it anymore! Is it not possible or stable? (BTW, the GPU is already running at its max frequency, right?)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
I want to say that based on ti documentation that 1.8ghz is possible but it was like 4am when I was reading all that
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reed-Sternberg:
I found this helpful:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/4413/...pecs-powervr-sgx544-18-ghz-dual-core-cortexa9

But current kernel doesn't support overclocking to 1.8, correct?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Correct.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ms2003:
currently i'm running at 800Mhz, this can reduce the temperature at left bottom, and no impact found currently for daily use.

the overclocking is just a kind of symbol i think.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] LucaToo:
Live wallpaper

I have similar problems with Paperland Live wallpaper - it now crashes the machine when trying to update.

I have also noticed that live wallpapers seem to hang/disappear altogether on a regular basis - which never happened with earlier versions - and that the machine in general is more prone to crashes (but these might be live wallpaper related) in general.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Using blue balls lwp shipped with ROM.

I always choose it after flashing, never disappears or anything. Have you tried with a non scrolling lwp?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] fgarvin:
IIRC, Verygreen came to the conclusion, that while 1.7/1.8 was possible, the cons> pros (heat, poor battery life, cpu damage> marginal performance gain).

As for the GPU - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43269078&postcount=1238
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Good to know the HD+ version is running as smoothly as the HD version. I can get some rest tonight :)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
If you haven't already, you should really go into Settings/Carbon and check out the multitude of functions for nav bar, status bar, ribbons, etcetera, etcetera. This rom has 3 UI modes, phone, phablet and tablet UI all built in, play around with them and see which one you like. As for a direct answer to your question, if you go into Carbon/Nav bar, you'll see quite a few settings that you can use to customize your experience.

You can add additional nav buttons, you can also use the sliders to change the width of the nav bar in both portrait and landscape. By adjusting the slider, the buttons will move left or right, get larger or smaller and hopefully you should be able to get an adjustment that hits the sweet spot for you.

Carbon is a great rom, I've been using it on my N7 since I got it. I always keep a current nandroid because no matter what other roms I check out, I find myself going back to Carbon. I also installed it on my wife's Galaxy Tab 2, so I was super happy when killersloth released it for my HD+.

While I'm here, figured I'd mention a few other Carbon things. Official Carbon is released on a somewhat nightly basis for other devices like the N7, here's a link showing the changelog in plain english terms. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zcp6iVWVw_7iH-ErnKgkYy3r5QuqV8PHFoQMb8hoBwQ/edit?pli=1

This way, when killersloth puts out a release, you can pretty much figure out what's been changed upstream by Team Carbon and decide if you want to update, or just wait for a later release. With nightlies, newer isn't always better. :)

For those who want to try out the built in Paranoid Android's latest and greatest Halo function, here's a useful free app from Play Store that may make for a better experience. https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5wYXJhbm9pZC5oYWxvIl0.

If you're going to use Halo, it's a good idea to visit some official Paranoid Android threads, or just google it for a Youtube demo or guide. Sorry I made this post so long, figured I'd throw in a few tips for you and others as well, so you can get more enjoyment out of this rom.

One other thing and this is not directed at you, keever25 but all of us in general. Don't want to sound preachy but let's not forget to hit the thanks button for killersloth every chance we get for building this for us.

Thanks,

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
Is there USB host enabled? If not you should see if you can merge the code for that from verygreen's EMMC ROM source

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Also could you enable zram? If it isn't already? I'm about to test this ROM out now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
I'm not sure it this is a ROM issue or a HALO issue, but is there any way to get HALO to work in Tablet UI mode?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
USB host should work, I'm not sure though don't have any of those cords to test it. Does VG have sources up somewhere for his cm build too? I see device and vendor files but I don't have access to his locally modified ROM source :)

You won't need zram, but I'm working on building a custom kernel, I'll look into enabling it. First I want to get my frequency/vdd table looking good and include a few more governors.

Is nook HD/HD+ kernel interchangeable?

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Turn halo on in phone/phablet ui, then switch to tablet ui.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] madsquabbles:
i swore i looked at those settings at least 10 times! thanks for making me do it correctly this time.

i had already tweaked the status bar size, changed to tablet ui, but overlooked the battery icon.

the battery is just as good as very's and stock. i barely lost a percent 7.5hrs overnight.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
I know normal users won't need zram but I've wanted to chroot Ubuntu and I couldn't do that with the current amount of ram. As for USB host mode, I've tested verygreen's ROM and know it works. verygreen's source is here: https://github.com/verygreen/android_device_bn_hummingbird

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AFAIK its just like any other android, just flash over a new kernel or you can figure out SD card dual booting.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pins2u:
Here's my report. I've been using this rom on my HD+(ovation) for more than a full day now.

* Summary

killersloth's CarbonRom is as stable and fast as verygreen's CM10.1 on my HD+. However, I wouldn't say it's faster than CM10.1. For me, there's no noticable difference. Jittering touch issue is still there, and the battery life is about the same as that of CM10.1. Despite the similarity in its performance, all those great features of CarbonRom that are not available in CM10.1 make this rom stand out. It's a must-try rom for our devices.

* Details

For me, its performance about the same as CM10.1. Antutu score was 86xx with verygreen's CM10.1 and is now around 88xx with killersloth's CarbonRom. Also, I do not see much difference in loading actual websites and apps between CM10.1 and CarbonRom.

Well, our nook has TI OMAP 4470 SoC, for which I didn't expect anything like Nexus 7 or 10. Considering the screen resolution, RAM, and CPU, I think both CM10.1 and CarbonRom utilize the capabilities of the machine quite well.

BTW, I heard OMAP 4470 can be clocked up to 1.8 Ghz (while hummingbird and ovation are clocked at 1.3 and 1.5 Ghz respectively). Since killersloth said he's working on a custom kernel, I am expecting to see some overclock features. However, I am not sure whether overclocking ovation is a good idea because it sometimes runs uncomfortably hot even with its stock frequency. (I don't know about hummingbird because I don't own it.)

It still has a touch issue. I believe it has to do with the hardware, not the software. To reproduce one of the symptoms, open up a webpage that can be pinch-zoomed. And then, using two of your fingers, pinch out to enlarge the page and hold both fingers on the screen. You will see the screen jittering continuously.

As for the battery life, the official website says Nook HD+ can run for 9 hours of video and 10 hours of reading with a single full charge, but we all know that CM10.1 cannot do that. And CarbonRom is about the same as CM10.1 for its battery life.

So, I'm basically saying that CarbonRom does not yield any remarkable performance gain over CM10.1, but tons of features you can find under Setting -> Carbon made me not want to go back to CM10.1. Well, if you are a clean, stock android lover, CM10.1 will still be the best.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] thegracious:
Some question:

This rom is installed by the emmc-cwm-early2.zip right?

It delete all available apps?

Still didn't brave enough for trying this new one for the risk of apps loss.:(
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pins2u:
Why don't you use a backup tool? Back up your apps+data, wipe your device, install CarbonRom, and restore your apps. :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] thegracious:
how about the installation process? can I just reboot to recovery (from verygreen rom) and flash it or I must totally factory reset the rom (how can I do that?) or I must have a bootable sd card for flashing?

The installation process is quite unclear for me.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bpaulien:
Just to be safe, do a nandroid backup before you flash. Then if you happen to lose your data, do a data restore, and you'll be right where you were before you flashed the ROM.

Be sure you're not using the TWRP recovery, though. I've heard that it doesn't backup and restore properly. But the CWM recovery does.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] srgibbs99:
Have a look at this thread. Read and do every step. This helped me greatly.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317500
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pins2u:
If you followed verygreen's tutorial to install CM10.1, then you should have CWM on your device. Follow my suggestion.

1. Make a backup of your apps using any backup tool. I used Stormbird Backup Lite. We will restore all the apps you have now after installing CarbonRom.

2. Have CarbonRom and Gapps files on your sdcard.

2. Boot into recovery from CM10.1. (or by pressing power+home buttons during booting.)

3. Go to [backup and restore] -> [backup]. You can choose [backup to internal sdcard] if you don't have external sd card.

4. Now, select [wipe data/factory reset]

5. Select [advanced] -> [wipe dalvik cache]

6. Select [install zip from sdcard] and install CarbonRom and Gapps as you did for CM10.1.

7. Reboot.

8. Install the backup tool that you used in step 1.

9. Restore your apps.

10. Done!

11. If you encounter any error or you just want to go back to CM10.1, boot into recovery and restore from your backup that you did in step 3.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] wy1d:
I agree. The performance is nearly identical in my testing.

I am actually experiencing touch-sensitivity (or lack thereof) issues on Carbon that I did not notice on CM10.1. I don't remember having to ever tap an icon more than once on Cyanogen but I was hitting back like 3 or 4 times last night before it would work and it started to get frustrating. I'm not sure why this would happen if both ROMs share portions of source but I'm wondering if it has to do with the TabletUI mode in Carbon settings. I may switch back to Phablet mode tonight and see if I still experience it. I was also having to tap multiple times when launching apps from the Home screen of Nova too though so I'm wondering if this is related to the touch issues others have reported but I haven't experienced until now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] srgibbs99:
Noob question

How does one trigger the PIE control in Carbon? I am using Nova launcher. Should I not be?

TIA

EDIT: I figured out that you have to enable the "ribbon" that you want it to appear on. I chose right, then change the "Pie Position" in the Pie settings section.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] nivren:
both the soft home button and hard home key do not work

I just flash 6-25 Carbon rom for nook hd+. I found both the soft home button and hard home key do not work.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
My instructions aren't as in depth as some others in this section I admit.

I come from development devices and the crack-flashers there are a bit more familiar with the process ;)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jptesar:
Lol, that's ok. Keep cranking out those updates. We got yer back! Thanks for the rom, it's running great, considering.

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They both work, I can promise you that. Try flashing the rom again. Make sure you wipe both caches to be safe.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
I'm getting a problem with the rotation on this ROM. If the screen goes back and forth portrait/landscape a few times it will eventually become extremely slow. Turning the screen off and back on fixes it but it will eventually happen again.

I also had a soft reboot from sleep once....
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
With HD+ I also noticed that after many rotations performance went to crap :(

There will be updates soon, life's curve balls have been keeping me very busy, haven't even been able to use my tablet much lol. I'll take some time for this soon.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JeauxAdam:
I don't think anyone here is concerned about your dedication to this ROM and tablet. You take care of yourself. I appreciate the work!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
Yes anyone who volunteers the time to get a ROM working on a device is worthy of many thanks. :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jamus28:
Yes aside from the rotation weirdness, carbon has been good to me for weeks. I love the way it puts keyboard arrows in the navigation bar. Setting the nook key to open menus is really convenient too.

Keep this one going!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] merchant2112:
ya what everyone else said. great work love 4.2.2, b11 gave me some stblity issues weired things and slow downs. was goign to bo back to b9 but i thought wtf maybe i just need to do a clean install. so

format system, factory reset wipe cache and D cache and re flash rom then / gapps. wait 10 min reboot wait 5 min log in and wow nice and smooth.

so if your having issues try a clean install instead of an update
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rob00:
HELP - Carbon ROM B11 on Nook HD+ freezes upon reboot

I need your help. I love my nook HD+ with the CarbonROM B11. It has everything I want, and more, designed so efficiently and effortlessly. If I think of something I need, it already has it built in. It is perfect.

So it is so frustrating to have this one problem with CarbonROM B11. I followed the instructions in the beginning of this forum to the letter, and everything was working perfectly for about a week. But slowly and with more frequency, I started to have this reoccurring problem: When I reboot the nook HD+, 99 out of 100 times it will freeze when the Carbon logo first appears off center to the top of the screen. Normally, Cyanogen Universal bootloader works great, then the 1st Carbon logo off center to the top appears, then the rounder centered Carbon logo appears, and then the Android unlock screen normally appears and it is ready to use. But slowly and with more frequency, it gets stuck after the bootloader successfully loads at the 1st Carbon logo stage. This stage started to take longer and longer, and now it just freeze there 99 out of 100 reboots.

At that point I have to reset by pressing the power and nook home buttons together. Then I can turn it on again and retry, and 99% it will fail again. So now I have to bootload into CWR and wipe all the cache drives, restore the same working backup copy of CarbonRom, wipe the cache drives again, fix permission, then restart the system. Even then it will first freeze at the same point, and I have to reset the nook again. Then it will boot into the Android lock screen normally.

Once in Android, it works great. although after a few days it gets slow and unresponsive/slow responsive to the touch of the finger (i.e., a have to press the HOME logo may times or hard enough for it to respond, or it responds with a 1-2 seconds delay). When it gets slow like this, I have to reboot, which takes me to the same boot freeze prpblem.

I have no idea why this is happening, so any suggestions is welcomed. I don't even know what else to report to help you help me resolve this problem. so please tell me what details to post. Am I the only one with this problem? Is there a known bug or solution to this situation? I do have a copy of the old android ROM that worked without this freeze problem (another xda-developer forum that helped me root the nook HD+ at the beginning), but that ROM did not have half the useful features of CarbomROM.

I so much want CarbonROm to work on my nook HD+. Please help.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
[MENTION=5045926]rob00[/MENTION]

You might want to switch to CM10.1 for now. Until killersloth has time to figure out some of the problems with Carbon. I ran Carbon for about a week but frequently had the unresponsive screen problem and occasional reboot. Strangely the eBay app was causing me screen problems as well. CM10.1 is working fine all around on the other hand, especially with the tablet UI mod (I don't like phablet).
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RichMD:
Could it be that you are running out of space in /system? Possibly your backup is using most of the 1GB and after you install/use some apps it fills again so it fails to boot. Try using Titanium backup (free) and check the space used and available in the system ROM - shown at the bottom of the 1st screen.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rob00:
HELP - Carbon ROM B11 on Nook HD+ freezes upon reboot

What does it mean to switch to CM10.1? Is CarbonRom CM10.2? and how can I do that?

So I guess I am not the only one having this problem, which is in a way reassuring. Does it mean that since CarbonRom is unofficial, it is not a stable release?

And thank you for your reply. It helps.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
Carbon and Cyanogenmod (CM) are just different customized Android 4.2.2 OSs. They are available for many devices but they need to be configured and themselves customized for each device. CM 10.1 is simply more developed right now than Carbon is for Nook HD. I have Carbon on my Nook Tablet and it works well on that device.

Cyanogenmod now officially does support Nook HD so it probably will get even better. That doesn't mean alternatives aren't worthwhile though.

CM10.2 is very fresh. It's based on the very recently released Android 4.3 and is undoubtedly buggy at the moment. I suggest going for 10.1 instead for now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RichMD:
/system is for your system files, system apps, and data I believe. It is not RAM and therefore stays through reboots. Try removing unnecessary apps that titanium backup shows as taking a lot of space.

I've tried to attach a pic of TB with a filter to only show system apps to give you an idea but it isn't working. I don't know that is your problem but it seems to fit and there were no other suggestions.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rob00:
I guess I have to be careful which system apps I should remove. is there a list of unnecessary apps safe to be removed?

how strange that system apps and files are in a separate and limited /system location limited to 1GB. one would think that it should use as much of the internal SD as needed, instead of being limited to 1GB. strange. i am new to android, and many things are strange.