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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] KingVeto:
Anyone else not a fan of how Samsung is on overdrive with the different models, colors and variants of our S4 so quickly after the initial release? It's a little insulting. I know it happened with the S3, to an extent, but over a much longer timeframe... You buy the phone when it is released only to find out that now, less than 3 months after its release, there are multiple models and even talk of an advanced 4G LTE model with updated snapdragon 800 inside. I understand that it's essentially impossible to have the newest, bleeding-edge cell phone, but to release an "updated model" less than a few months after the initial release is a huge slap in the face.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] ludbosanac17:
The new colors and the active weren't a big shocker to me since I'd rather have a good screen and specs than a bit more durable device. The mega wasn't much to me either but the S4 Advanced is.. Even though tmobile barely just got lte now it wouldn't have too much function besides the new process but still.. Id like to have some safety in buying something new and not having buyers remorse for not waiting for the next best thing so soon.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] androidsoccer:
Yeah it is so aggravating

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I want a device that gives me a sense of security of having the top support. For Samsung to immediately dump us like this could be their weakest point. I just bought it a week ago and to hear something new may be coming just pisses me off. No wonder I was considering apple
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] KingVeto:
*shudder* no, my friend, you still chose wisely. The S4 is an amazing phone, and I love it. I'm mostly just making a comment on how I don't like the direction Samsung is going... They're getting very greedy and flooding the market with S4 labeled everything....it's a sure-fire way to turn people off to the brand. And if this advanced version comes to light and is released shortly, then this will be my last Samsung branded phone. I bought an S4 because I thought it would be Samsung's flagship top-tier smartphone, but apparently it is already obsolete after two months. This would be welcome if a competitor released a phone that wiped the floor with the S4, but to have the same manufacturer do it....that's simply a greedy, consumer-alienating move.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] ineffablepanda:
It almost feels like they're punishing the early adopters.

"See all the cool **** we could've put in your phone but chose not to?"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheAtheistOtaku:
im really pissed about the s4 advanced. its a huge screw you to those of us who bought the phone in may. its only been what, a month and a half? Not to mention that us 16 gig users got especially boned. Isnt this rapid release cycle one of the contributing factors of htc's slow suicide? this may very well be the last samsung phone i buy. ive been eyeing the sony experia line for a while. Time to do some research
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] androidsoccer:
I might go with the iPhone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] se1000:
Really? Am I missing something? It's just a S4 with LTE Advanced which no carrier to date in the US has announced plans of rolling out yet. We are arguably leading the LTE rollout and our two largest carriers aren't even done with it yet, much less the #3 and #4 carriers. T-Mobile is the one that's best poised to go to LTE Advanced but I'd say they have enough on their hands finishing their LTE rollout.

Samsung has recently showed that with the S3, they are supporting their older platforms with the leaked (and should be soon to be official) release of 4.2.2.

Other than that, how does the S4 Advanced make the regular S4 obsolete in any way? Exactly how much faster is browsing going to be at anything over 10, 15, 20 mbps? I'd bet most of you guys aren't getting that on your home broadband connections.

As for the S4 Active and the different colors, well, there were a lot of rumors of the S4 active before it was released and really, the new colors should have been expected by early adopters.

I'm not saying what Samsung is doing is perfect but, let's be honest here, the release of the S4 Advanced changes nothing about the S4 being the fastest phone you can buy today. What else did they change that you guys feel so left out about? They changed the modem and it supports a technology that to my knowledge there are 11 cell sites somewhere in Russia use as an experiment. Haha, I'm sorry but I just don't get the concern.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheAtheistOtaku:
you obviously havent heard about the snapdragon 800 being put in it, which makes our phone seem dated by years. there have already been reviews on the processor. And there saying that unlike phones that have been released in the last year-year in a half, you can see a big improvement in real world performance and smoothness.

Most of us are pissed off because if they would of said something about putting the snapdragon 800 in it in about a month, most if not all of us would of waited.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] filipinnaheart973:
exasperating

I can't keep up with samsung too, when s3 came out I just bought my s2 couple of months ago which is really irritating, I have yet to enjoy the features of this awesome smart phone and next thing I knew my friends are buying s3 like it's going out of style..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] KingVeto:
The issue isn't a slight increase in browsing speed. Or even that the new snapdragon is a faster processor (although that's upsetting) . It's the principle of it. You don't release a product and then release an updated version of the same product barely two months later. It doesn't speak well of the company's loyalty to their consumers. Do you think anyone is going to rush out and buy any future phones from Samsung? No, because they've proven that within a month or so they will push out another "updated" version of the same phone. This wasn't meant to start an argument between the readers of these forums, it was simply my opinion of what I consider poor business practices of Samsung.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dr. Fed:
Do you really think it will be a big difference for real-world performance? So far the biggest factor in performance for the s4 seems to be software optimization.

Anyhow, I hear what you're saying. But, no matter what phone you buy these days, there is always a better one around the corner.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] oblivion0:
I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.

People, we can spend our lives and money chasing the "next big shiny thing" if that's your deal...but let's be honest with ourselves - even with the S4 Advanced being a slightly more powerful model of our current GS4, the gap won't be enough to justify shelling out another 600+ bucks to buy the latest new phone IMO.

We can hate on Samsung all we want, but one thing I respect about the company is their willingness to continuously innovate - kinda like Google.

So long as the GS4 remains well supported (and T-Mobile finally releases the bloody update) - I've got no complaints. My GS4 is the tits, and I doubt I'll need a new phone for quite some time (want is another story entirely).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dr. Fed:
Say, what update referring to? Do you mean the US equivalent of the update they recently received in Europe? If so, yeah I want to check that out.

When I was on Sprint, we had a leak-God named Sextape. Sextape would very generously provide Odin files of new leaks, sometimes months before actual release. So far I haven't seen a Dev like that on the T-Mobile side of things.

But I'm still hoping to "meet"such a Dev.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Xcor3:
You guys should already know this is going to happen. When you buy a new phone, there's always going to be a new one coming out. With the person saying they bought an s2 then s3 came out in few months. You should already know it was coming out, it happens every year. You don't buy a new phone after months of being released then complain about it when a new one came out
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] oblivion0:
Yes, I'm referring to the International G4 update. There's a T-Mobile leak available, but from what I understand it's buggy.

I was on ET4G as well, and Sextape is awesome.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] luckychef28:
This argument seems moot. Do you even think T-Mobile would pick up the S4 Advance? I very highly doubt it. If what you really wanted was the "best", why not shell out the money for the international version with octa-core back in May? Because of the lack of LTE is my guess, but T-Mobile's LTE coverage is so sparse it seems pointless.

This variant will remain well supported into the future - as far as smartphone lifespans go. This is not the HTC One story. HTC kept releasing variants because there were crappy flaws and they couldn't get it right.

We all seem to be pretty well plugged into the rumor mill, so news and, based on history, the expectation of color variants should've been no surprise. And the Active has been known for quite some time. We are a "Want it now!" group which is why we couldn't even wait a month for the initial price drop.

If you really need the Snapdragon 800, you can still commanda premium for this phone on ebay to pay your way. But, I would think the development is going to be very sparse compared to this one - FAR fewer people will have that phone. Hell, right now we can run any rom from any carrier, plus the international 9505.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] se1000:
Would you rather not have the option? "Big improvement in real world performance and smoothness" - I just can't see how a 1.9Ghz quad core processor in a phone is holding you back.

Nothing has been released. There isn't even any talk about this phone being released in the US or even when it could be released. If I was a betting man I'd say it would be somewhere at or near when other 5" phones are getting the snapdragon 800........ which is......... uh, not announced by anyone yet.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] richardlibeau:
Exactly and korea is getting this first the u.s. will not see this until next year at the earliest. There are no advanced lte networks in place yet but guess who will be in the best shape for it....Tmobile because they have the newest lte equipment out there that there are using now across the country. So I am not mad at them it would have been a different story if it was coming now but it's still awhile before we see it. I am more pissed off about the lack of internal space and not being moving apps to sd card. Hope we get the same update to fix this soon like the intetnational model. That's my only beef right now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mgbotoe:
I dont think the op is out to chase the next best thing but rather, the business aspect of samsung.

But hey, Lt advance, and w.e spec is being added to the phone doesn't really bother me if i dont have it. My phone is blazing fast. With AOSP/AOKP it runs faster than my finger can catch up because of the specs it currently have. Infamous manage to squeeze 5+ hours of battery life out of it and evil managed to make it as smooth as silk.

So I am not complaining , if i say I will be chasing the next best thing with my money as someone of you clearly have that mindset going on in here, I will be more broke than my two years old baby cousin. If not broke, will just walk around with that green envious eyes and no one got time for that, clearly im too lazy for that. It is differenty if you got the s2 than the s3 came out (the obvious difference in the phone is MINDBLOWING)

But from the s4 lt..to s4 lt advance, water proof s4, to w.e else s4 is out there...I'm good. I can still sleep at night knowing my phone is better than 7/8 of my whole block if it is about being satisfy with the next being thing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] RMXO:
If u want to try out Apps2Sd then try out 9505 rom's like Omega. He has a new release (v6) & it works extremely well. The only downside is you lose out on wifi calling, which I'm willing to give up.

Back to topic on hand, it doesn't bother me one bit. The only thing that bothers me is the storage capacity & how long it takes to get a higher model. Oh yeah, carrier exclusive is retarded too but that can't be help if one carrier is willing to pay more to get an exclusive but for the love of god, release higher storage models sooner or offer them all the same time.

That's one thing that Apple has done right with their iPhones, they give you a choice in which model to get based on storage.

-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] ipaq_101:
Calm the hell down.

You are just going off some rumors, Samsung might not even release the phone and if they did it would only be in S. Korea. For that phone to come to the US, it would have to go through all the rounds of testing with all carriers etc. Not in a few months but more like end of the year.

Also this thing has a 4 core processor, its fast enough.

For those of you idiots saying you will get the iphone....haha really? Go for it, no one is stopping you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] monkeypaws:
Personally, just got off the Samsung train. Had all of them starting with the vibrant. I lost interest when the s4 was released and I still hasn't had my s3 six months. The s4 didn't prove to me an upgrade. I went with the n4 and it just felt like it was missing something. Finally went with the HTC one. Hadn't had an HTC phone since the my touch. Love this phone. The build quality and everything. I think if Samsung had shown something other than memory wasting gimmicks than I would have considered it .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] se1000:
I believe the S3 was available almost a full year before the S4 was released. How is it Samsung's fault that you bought an S3 only 6 months before the S4 was released?

Apart from the build quality, how is the HTC One that much better that you feel that the HTC One does prove to be an upgrade over your S3 whereas the S4 doesn't? S4 and HTC One are very comparable with each having different strengths and weaknesses between them.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Android_Monsters:
I'll keep buying samsung phones as long as they have the best phones.

Galaxy s4 (best phone)

Tmobile (best carrier)

Nuff said
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] monkeypaws:
Don't need to get so upset. I never said i was blaming Samsung. Yes looking back I did have it almost a year. But looking back and seeing how the updated versions differ from each other the s3 to s4 "in my opinion" didn't seem to jump up and grab me enough. Yes they all do have their weaknesses and strengths but I was factoring in what was important to me, which in all honesty maybe different than what you believe is important to you. I took price, quality and memory into consideration. Price wise it costs less than the s4, the memory isn't all taken up by the is like the s4. I have 32 GB minus the os with plenty left over which the s4 uses about half of its 16gb. I mean the s 3 didn't even use the much. :/. Quality I feel the s3 was a good size in the hand and the htc1 feels thinner and feels like a "real phone". The s4 felt too big and bulky to me. Again " my opinion". After spending years with tw I needed a refresher. I may come back to Samsung in the next few years if they can show me something other than answering the phone without using my hands and other motion features I never use. Also I agree with op. They are oversaturaing the market.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] RobertR3750:
Wow, a lot of complaining about Samsung constantly striving to innovate. These complaints don't make much sense to me. Is the S4 a great phone? Yes. Will there be better phones in the future? Yes. That's the way it is in consumer electronics. There's ALWAYS something better coming along. The comments I'm reading are like the cartoon I read with the guy proudly driving home with the "latest and greatest" computer--only to see the NEXT "latest and greatest" advertised on a billboard! C'est la vie! Would some of you really be happier if Samsung took 2 or 3 years to come out with something better?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mnazary:
I keep seeing One owners posting in the S4 second and all they ever post is how much better their phone is than the S4. Anybody else notice that and getting slightly annoyed? I mean I don't have a One so I have no reason to go post in the One section.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] monkeypaws:
Im one of those. Never said it was better. I was replying to this thread's specific topic about over saturation . I felt that ibshared the same opinion and it had to do with my choice to move to the HTC one. As far as it goes though i think releasing the active, the mini and the s4 are great ideas. They have individual things that different customers want. I personally think the mega is huge. I got my wife the note 2 and I can say that is an awesome phone, too bulky for me, but since she keeps it in her purse it works for her. I don't think there is a forum rule that states you have to own a particular device to post in that particular forum. In think there is a difference between giving an opinion and trolling. Sure people do come to forums and troll while others like me subscribe to many different thtreads and posts here and there. I did a lot of research before getting my phone. It was a three way tie between the n4, s4, and HTC one. I ended with the one and shouldn't be picked on for making that decision. Am I still a fan of Samsung, yes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] RMXO:
It actually doesn't bother me, if they were so happy they wouldn't be posting in a S4 forums but to each their own.

Please Samsung, give us more internal storage options & don't make me wait half a year or longer before you do release one. Don't wait some months before the release of a next gen model to release a higher storage capacity of a last gen model.

-Sent from my TMO Samsung Galaxy S4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] probablecauz69:
plain and simple. it's a piece of technology. there will always be bigger and better. will you all complain when the galaxy note 3 comes out. for the people wanting to jump on the iphone bandwagon, news flash they update there phones every year. and lately they are only adding features already found on android devices. if you are not happy with it get a new phone. support another manufacturer. technology will continue to evolve and then you will complain about that company also. sheesh :silly:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] RMXO:
This is the downside of tech, it becomes obsolete as soon as you buy it.

On another note, speaking of the GN3, if the rumors of a better camera than the S4 & 32GB internal storage are true, it's going to be mighty tempting not to get it. Sorry to be OT.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] se1000:
I'm not upset, it's just you made strong implications with your first post. You implied that Samsung released the S4 shortly after the S3. You implied that although the S4 didn't feel like an adequate step up from the S3, that the HTC One is. The second point is very much subjective since there are things such as the internal memory and build materials that differ. The reason these implications are important is that the thread is about how the OP felt that Samsung is releasing devices too soon after the initial launch of the S4.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] androidsoccer:
Just announced, the galaxy s4 ltr advanced
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Realalist:
Well from what I've read it's only being released in Korea and we couldn't take advantage of the advanced LTE network anyway so I'm not really that mad.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike216:
I agree. I understand I'm not always going to have the newest cell phone. Two months later. Come on man... Why didn't they just release the S4 a month later with the 800. This time around is insulting. O well, android crack

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I agree with everything you said. I've been buying samsung phones since the vibrant. I have a Samsung TV because the phones have been so reliable. Along with the vibrant I've gotten the nexus S, galaxy nexus and the S3,S4. I've been a loyal customer because I like the product.

I do feel you cheapen the brand when you name low end phones with the galaxy name. Keep it exciting and be loyal to customers some can even become life long. When you release a upgraded device so soon when they could have easily taken time and got it right is the wrong thing to do. They have the galaxy note they could have kept up on the competition with. It's just not classy from a great company

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] squashai:
It's pretty disappointing, but my S4 works like a champ, regardless.

I could complain, but hey, they're going to come out with a Note 3 this year, right? I'd much rather be envious of that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] spaided:
I actually agree...I love my s4, and I love T-mobile!!! I do wish more LTE was available but...everyday they get better.

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Exactly, It's just like buying a car....As soon as you do, I newer/better/cheaper one comes around!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Razzzzer:
the below is clearly a gross over exaggeration... this phone will not be obsolete for MANY MANY years.

if you mean "top of the line" instead of obsolete then you have a point ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Lobster!:
The new model won't affect you in any way if you're in the US, sure you might want the S800, but it was built for South Korea. LTE-A is nowhere to be found in the states.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evo4eva:
First of all that's false. While it may not be active yet, T-mobile has already confirmed that LTE-A is coming by the end of 2013. Second of all who the hell cares how many models Samsung throws out. The need to have the latest and greatest shows that you care way too much about what other people think about your phone and yourself. Also shows that you like to waste money by buying the latest piece of technology even if there is only a week between. The S4 is by no means outdated and still won't be outdated when the advanced comes out. It's still one of the best phones on the market and will continue to be for a while. The Note 3 and all Notes for that matter, are worthless. If you want a tablet then go get a tablet. There is absolutely no need to have a phone with a screen that big. It's TOO big for a phone. Quit crying about how Samsung does business. If you don't like it then move to a different manufacturer.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] adventure_of_link:
Well, here's some ideas to consider:

* those with low vision or otherwise can't see small screens that well.. a bigger/more HD screen would work wonders

* unfortunately, tablets are STILL tiered when it comes to the internet. I wouldn't mind paying like $10 or $20 more for unlimited on my tablet, but when it's still got limits, I draw the line.

So, a phablet would be the best of both worlds. I may still consider the N3 so long as it's feature-rich like my GS4.

And if YOU don't like the phablets then move on to different manufacturers who don't make them :P
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Lobster!:
Doesn't matter if LTE-A is released, if the S4 LTE-A hasn't been announced in the US, then all it is is a fantasy to us.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evo4eva:
That's not a valid argument. The S4 comes stock with the ability to increase the font size. There is no logical or practical reason to own any of the note phones. Nice try though. Why move to a different manufacturer when I like everything they make aside from the note. Both your arguments are invalid.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Miami8906:
Understand where he is coming from but kinda agree with you. I thought about getting the note 2 or note 3 when it comes out but just can't see myself holding a phone as big as a book to the side of my head!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike216:
Note 2,3 S4

There is no right or wrong. It's whatever someone prefers. If I were 6-9" I might want the note? Love the S4 myself

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