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[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
use the last option, with neon.

I feel the same way :)

B9 will be back to normal. My HD+ feels jumpy on B8, no smoother just kinda jumpy in scrolling. Verygreen made a commit regarding touch sensitivity as well ( https://github.com/verygreen/green_kernel_omap/tree/ovation-3.0-dev ) that might be making things more sensitive as well, I didn't really check it out .

And yes, there is a lot of crap packed into viper. I use it for the bass contour and listening device options on my gnex, which otherwise puts bass out horribly. The healing mode thing, yeah that gave me a good laugh when I read about it in their thread too lol.

I'm still working on getting UltimatumXY synced, I like their build on my gnex.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
I agree that both the graphic and sound mods should be installed separately, according to the preference of an individual user and not baked into the rom. However, although you don't like the sound mod, there are many users who hear improved sound and/or get something beneficial from it.

As for the new buzz words, "clarity increasing" and "healing"...I snickered at that also but chalked it up to it being a Chinese dev/maintainer and things kinda' getting lost in translation. So, don't let your intelligence get insulted. :)

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
I just ate an entire tub of chocolate fudge brownie ice cream, but while doing so I managed to get a complete sync of UltimatumXY ;)

Just gotta set up all the patches to make it build for Nook HD/HD+, too bad I'm out of ice cream, it was really helping me get the job done lol.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
LOL! I'll send you a tub of Xylon caramel fudge via pony express. That should get you going again, if it doesn't get you sick. :D

On a serious note, keep up the great work!

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RustedRoot:
On B8 and I only notice stuttered scrolling on XDA app. Elsewhere, it seems smooth. Running verygreen's touch sensitivity app (touch detect threshold at 0xe; all settings unchanged) with good results.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
The install guide has you put the apks in /system/app/* doesn't this get cleared when I update the carbon rom? If so where could I put this viper mod so it survives reboots?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
I figured out how to modify leapinlar's SD swap file for this Carbon rom. This will swap the internal and external SD card mount locations so apps will save files to a external SD card if present at boot. Just flash in cwm (or whatever recovery you use)

View attachment NookHD-HDplus-SDSwap-for-killersloth-carbon(07-10-13).zip
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reatret:
Will you make a new thread or will this turn into a UltimatumXY? :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dawgpoundfan:
made the jump from CM...

love this ROM so far, seems a bit livelier than CM on my HD+ not sure why but thanks for the goods! One thing I did not see on my first couple walks thru the settings was the ability to track your touches, helps with tracking the accuracy of the touchscreen...
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
Yeah you're right, it doesn't survive rom updates in system. Although the instructions say to push it to system, it will also work if you just sideload and install it like any other apk file. This way, it stays on rom updates unless you do a data wipe. And even then, if you back it up with Titanium, you can just easily restore it.

Matter of fact, if you already installed it to system and you have Titanium, just convert it to a user app. The irs files for convolver will survive rom updates.

@killersloth

Sorry for sidetracking your thread. Going forward, I think any questions regarding Viper4Android should be addressed in the Viper dev thread, so as not to take away from Carbon rom. There's quite a few members there that seem to be very patient helping other members. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191223

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dmullens:
I've lost track, is the pure graphic stuff included in the current ROM, or do I need to flash that?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
It is in the current B8 release: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=42904249&postcount=2

KS said going forward, he will probably not include it. Btw, if you flashed over it, would no no harm.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] nivren:
I just flash Carbon rom for nook hd+ and hd. I found both the soft home button and hard home key do not work either on hd or hd+. I did flash data, cache, system and so on before flashing. Any suggestion?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
Did you flash the gapps package? It sounds like you did not. Use the one in the OP. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=42904224&postcount=1

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
It'll be a new thread.

The guys at ukg (ultimatum) like to throw around big words like gcc4.9 and such, so I'm working hard to get it ironed out for the nook :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] nivren:
You bet! Problem solved now! Thanks.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Wolfkmann:
Can't get Google voice to open, keep getting fc's. Was on b7 upgraded to b8 still fc. Anyone else have this problem, or know a solution?

Sent from where ever I currently am.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RustedRoot:
Yup. Search this thread for GV and you'll see I have this problem. It's related to sloth's Contacts and Contact Storage. There's a fix if you have Titanium Backup (another plug for this essential app -- Show Me the Money!) and came from verygreen's CM10.1 (or probably CM10 for that matter); if you backed up vg's contacts and contact storage, restore both apps and data through TB and you should be back in business. Let us know if that works.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bpaulien:
Question about XBMC running on the current, or previous version... I was trying to watch something last night and couldn't get it to play. I was on B7 and decided to flash B8 just to see if I had better luck. Still wouldn't play.

I know it was working on earlier versions. I'm just wondering if it's my XBMC that's flakey or the Carbon ROM. I guess I should flash CM10.1 again to see if it works there. That might be a good test. Or the earlier version of Carbon that I ran it on.... Has anyone else been able to watch anything on XBMC with either B7 or B8?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mcord11758:
I use the XAF XBMC build that uses MX as an external player. Currently on CM10.1 but not the most recent one, but I have not had any issues watching video from XBMC
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] walpurgisbirn:
I had the same issue, it seems to be an issue with the Gapps in the first post. Remove Google Search, and then reload from the Play store and it should work fine.

Whoops, thought it was the Google Voice Search f/c issue I experienced. I don't think this advice will help with Google Voice. Mea culpa.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] hirent:
Finally took the plunge after a month of running stock.

WOW!

Even though users have reported it and I expected it, the difference in experience from the stock ICS ROM is remarkable.

Just installed B8 (straight from rooted stock) yesterday and spent an enjoyable evening tinkering it to my requirements. Pissed off the wife for not looking up from the screen but it was worth it.;)

So far so good.

Great work on the ROM.

Thanks!

---------- Post added at 01:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:31 PM ----------

I installed B8 (from stock) and Google Voice works so far. No problems yet (14 hours in).
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RustedRoot:
Good to hear about Google Voice. Curious, do you use the 2-step login for Google?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] merchant2112:
Flash Player don't work on this rom.or at least it wont install. i tyred side loading it and it wont display flash items....
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dmullens:
I was able to get flash to work, but only with Firefox.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
I'm having a problem where if I leave the nook hd+ asleep for long enough, it won't turn back on. I have to hold the power button until it turns off then reboots. Been like that for a few builds... Very frustrating to not use the device all day at work then have to reboot it every day on the train home.

Otherwise I love this ROM! Definitely much smoother without halo running as someone here mentioned earlier. Keep up the great work!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] hirent:
Nope, just the password.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
fyi - still working on ultimatum

their repo is missing half the stuff needed to build for any device they dont support. working out the missing parts adding them in from my carbon repo and working out errors.

coming soon? I got more ice cream :p

Not liking their overzealous use of linaro lol
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] walpurgisbirn:
Dolphin beta will run flash "on demand", but you first have to delete the preferences file. Path is data/data/com.Dolphin.browser.lab.en/shared_prefs/.com.Dolphin.browse.lab.en_preferences.xml

I've found it's fast and fairly stable, if it's beta, it's a pretty damn solid working beta.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] merchant2112:
confirmed the side loaded flash player works just fine with Firefox......it tests and detects on adobes site perfectly, but only with firefox. chrome and default browser see the plugin but report it as not functional. so far smooth sailing and i got flash if i need it.

apk file for flash was downloaded from the apps forum
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Can you post your settings? What gov, cpu settings, frequency, etc? Try using sakuractive (use kernel tuner to set it). Make sure you don't have any "profiles" set up like screen-off-> make freq 386 or whatever. Those just waste battery and dont help at all since they just fight with the governor....
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
Thanks. Downloaded kernel tuner and it was already set to sakuractive and I have never messed with any type of Kernel profiles or settings at all...

BTW, Killersloth, B6 is running amazing so far. Haven't tried reactivating HALO but it really killed B7 so I'm going to leave it off for now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Halo kills performance on every rom I think and it does with Carbon on my htc DNA. I don't have much use for it because the screen is so big I don't care if I have my status bar. You might need to do a clean flash of the newest rom (B8 I think) which should fix your issue. The screen off problem sounds like an undervolting issue. Basically lowering the voltage too much will give you the sleep of death. I don't know if you did that, but a clean flash should fix it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tgreenstein:
Same problem here. It's been a problem for me going back to at least B4. I've got the minimum CPU speed set at 396, don't know what else to try.

Anybody else?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Have you tried a clean flash?I never had an issue with the sleep of death
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tgreenstein:
Yes, I'm running a clean flash of B8 now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Can you grab a last kmsg anda log cat when this happens?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tgreenstein:
Sure. How do you do that?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reed-Sternberg:
Battery life on this thing is just crazy! Kudos to the developers :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Nice! What settings?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reed-Sternberg:
these are the only changes I made to KS's settings: governor: interactive, I/O Scheduler: NOOP, Force GPU rendering. that's it!:cowboy:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Trying to fix ukg sources to build successfully for these nooks was a pita

Wasn't working as planned.

Screen went bad on the HD again going to take it in for 2nd exchange today lol, girlfriend had it in the purse all day, took it out and noticed some blue lines, tried to reboot it and it wouldn't show the screen... Got it back to stock though after some fighting with it. This HD+ has been much more reliable to me :p

Working on bringing rootbox over to these devices, they use a lot of cm's sources so its an easy sync for me with --reference should only take about 10 mins and not hang up *knocks on wood
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] fgarvin:
Same results, unbelievable!

6.5 days - almost 6-hrs screen time - A lot of tweaking(Carbon, dpi...), install/uninstall app testing, reboots(user initiated), heavy browsing/video(flash testing)

7/4, default bright, I/O, sakuractive, wi-fi off(sleep). Was on 320dpi most of the week, just changed back to 240.

Thanks for all your hard work!

Bravo, great job Mr. Sloth.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Started rootbox builds. Heading to work.

I hope this works, I don't know if anyone will enjoy rootbox as much as I will. I tuned the pa overlay to 240 default to match what everyone is used to, but there are soooo many options. Think carbon + more settings + per app DPI + stable. It's going to be awesome if it works out :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jptesar:
I'm looking forward to trying it out. Thanks for building it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mising:
Rootbox +1

One of my favorites on my GNex and Note2

Almost too many options!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JeauxAdam:
I have rootbox running on my Optimus G. Love it and would look forward to using it on my HD+.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Yeah, my girlfriend texted me to let me know it failed. I'm sure (sure hoping, lol) it's something simple. I'll check after work. Most likely an overlay issue. I didn't define the common tablet overlay anywhere like I should have :p
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dealpapa1:
I love rootbox rootbox rootbox :highfive:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Yeah I'm so ready to get off work and get it built :D :D :D
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bckrupps:
nice girlfriend. patient and tech smart lol
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
She tries, sometimes.... Lol
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] blast0id:
anyone know how to remove the camera widget from the lockscreen? I am at a loss... I hope it's something I've ignorantly overlooked!

thanks in advance!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] timboroks:
settings > lock screen > slider shortcuts. you're welcome.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] blast0id:
facepalm of the century... lol

edit: spoke too soon, I do not have lock screen > slider shortcuts either in the settings > root menu or under settings > carbon > lockscreen > slider shortcuts

now I'm even more confused...

edit2: you understand I'm speaking of the widgets, NOT the lock RING shortcuts...
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Carbon > lock screen

There's on/off toggles

Toggle it on then off

Also disabling initial page hints helps if you're experiencing any slight lag when unlocking the screen.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] williamlaw:
This is a great rom !! Thanks

But still not "very" smooth, is it hardware limit ??
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] keever25:
Hi,

Looking for anyone's opinion on this ROM vs CM 10.1 EMMC on the Nook HD. Most interested in whether it solves the jittery/jumpy scrolling that occasionally occurs on CM 10.1. Or any other feedback.

Thanks
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
He was impressed :) I also noticed the smoothness. it is built with the latest linaro optimizations, which in my opinion does not cause any extreme amounts of improvement, but it is a slight increase in performance nonetheless.

Put together a GAPPS package that supports the dark toggle, gesture keyboard works on my Nook HD using them, should work just fine for the HD+ as well ;)

Link in OP

For S&G, here is a useless benchmark score:

Slightly higher then the best score I've got on my Galaxy Nexus.

I have no idea why it keeps trying to prepare ovation for sdcard install, afaik there is no way to target the build for an sdcard/emmc install.

If one of the other two dev's building for these devices can fill me in on whatever it is that I'm not seeing, that would be cool ;)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
Awesome job man! Just flashed the most current ovation build and it's working great. I've been trying to squeeze more smoothness out of my HD+, so I installed Trickster Mod. I didn't mess around with the min/max frequency at all, just set the scheduler to deadline and the governor to hotplug but these are arbitrary settings. The one thing I did that I "think" may be making a difference is changing the read ahead buffer to 2048. That's the standard setting with Trickster Mod on my N7 and the default for the Nook HD+ was 128.

This could just be placebo but I feel that it did make a difference. Maybe someone can check it out and let me know if it's imaginary or real. LOL

In dev options I brought all animations down to .5x, also forced GPU rendering and disabled HW overlay. This really improves smoothness but unfortunately, the disable HW overlay never sticks. I could never get that setting to stick on any JB rom, on any of my devices. I wonder if it is possible to set this somewhere else, like buildprop or init.d?

Anyway, thanks again for your contribution, really appreciate it.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] RhinoNelson:
My early results

I flashed this on my HD+ over the existing CM10.1. Wiped Cache and Dalvik and used the already present GAPPS and Data (I didn't wipe this). Initially it got to the CarbonRom splash screen but didn't advance so I powered off and restarted and this second time it made it through and did the Android updating thing with each app and finished booting. For comparison only I ran Antutu (with wifi and Weather Channel running) and scored 9802. Played an mkv video without issue with MXPlayer (using HW+ encoder) and everything seems good. If I have any issues I will pass them along.....
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
The reason "Disable HW Overlays" wont stick on any JB rom, is because it is essential for "Project Butter".

Read ahead buffer at 128 pretty low, it might be kernel default. I will never use any bootscripts to change these settings though, if my laptop survives the week I'll work on getting the kernel to build 'correctly', with optimized settings into the ramdisk. I'd like to work on a frequency table that allows OC to 1.7ghz, maybe scalable GPU frequency as well.

So many ideas but so little time during the day, and this fan failure on my laptop recently has me worried. I might have to go buy a box-fan and a crate to stick under the laptop, cheaper then replacing it ;)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bpaulien:
My wife's laptop is having fan issues too. But for what she uses it, she can mostly replace it with the new HD I got her. Right now she's still running stock, but I'll try to convince her to give this rom a try.

Good luck with your laptop, though. I know that's frustrating.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Show her what it would look like with cotton candy cobalt theme :)

There is also a replacement for phase beam live wallpaper with pink floating androids that my lady loves lol

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] keever25:
So I have been trying the ROM on the Nook HD, and its running great. Just one quick question, the navigation keys (back, home, etc) are scrunched fairly close together in the middle with wide margins on each side. Is there a setting or a possibility to spread them out more similar to the distance on cm 10.1? Thanks
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bckrupps:
i may have missed it. does this use the stock browser like in cm 10.1?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mcord11758:
Yes

check out XBMC the future of TV

http://www.xbmchub.com/forums/register.php?referrerid=5757
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mehdi_s82:
Th difference on performance is day and night. It solved all the jittery scrolling issues that you pointed out. Overall its way smoother! I've been on Carbon for more the a day and have not noticed any problems.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mcord11758:
Only issue I have is Google now is not working

check out XBMC the future of TV

http://www.xbmchub.com/forums/register.php?referrerid=5757
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
The option for show menu key, just turn it off. Also when you have the keyboard up there will be arrows to move cursor left/right. Just explore the settings and find out what everything does. There are many customizable options

It's the modded googlenow apk from gapps. Try to update in play store, or delete it from system/app and download from play I'll get that fixed :)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] madsquabbles:
just did a clean install and everything seems great so far (on hd+). i do have a request : show percentag in the battery.

other than that s the rim is great. now ia have either check battery life.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
Looking forward to trying this as cm10.1 has become a bit jittery for me.

Question: Is there a Tablet UI option? Can I flash the Tablet UI mod that I used on cm10.1?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jptesar:
You can change the battery type/look. Under settings, look within the carbon settings. There are tons of other options there as well.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
No need for tablet ui mod ;)

Just try it you won't be disappointed.

And to everyone, explore the settings. Carbon has everything but sliding menus right now.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus to all you wonder nobodies!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bckrupps:
So coming from stock i assume the process is the same as cm 10. make a bootable card and root and flash recovery first and anything else that needs to be flashed to set this up?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jptesar:
You are correct. Carbon rom and gapps.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
Running real smooth right now. Love all the options! This is great! Thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Decided on the bar tonight ;)

On the HD+, yes :(
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] williamlaw:
Just seen same cpu on other device in youtube, they much more smoother than hd+
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reatret:
You also have to remember we have a hi res display with little ram and far as I know a relatively slow/bad gpu?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bckrupps:
its Saturday. we designated Wednesday as your drinking night lol
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Build from before work error'd out thanks to linaro

Build after the bar seems to be going smoothly ;)

as I go and jinx myself lol, gotta stay up till it finishes now just to be sure

Tonight I made sure to drink plenty, but not enough to lose function of my brain and fingertips lol, I want vanilla rootbox :D

Wednesday was by buddies birthday, very good excuse for mid-week boozing lol

If tonight's liquor inspired epiphany works, who knows, I might build a whole slew of unofficial ROMs for us. Everyone has different taste, it's good to have options for all types of users.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] williamlaw:
after changed lcd density and reboot, it can't reboot normally.

i need press power button to force power off and on, is it normal ??
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jpisini:
Always a good choice
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Build was going well, keep getting a permission denied error when the build tries to initiate boot.mk, it's strange.

Still working it out lol

Yeah, it's been happening since line B3, and on other devices as well.