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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
So you are telling me this is a Samsung Galaxy Mega idiot circle?

You are the one who bring up the ads portions of this convo therefore you got what you asked for. As for your so called pocket test pictures argument, is really invalid. You have 2 people with 2 different type of jeans and testing 2 different phones is really fair? Good one bro. Should I start posting pictures of how the ZU blew the mega out of the water in benchies? Come back with a valid result. I don't have a mega however I have 3 note 2 and 1 S4 octa and an s4 quads. So I am not even a Sony fan boy, the ZU is my first Sony phone. Good try on defending your mega but keep trying.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
You still don't get it. We are discussing the pros and cons of the two devices. No one in this thread said the Mega is better than the any other phone. We are talking about different aspects of the 2 phones and comparing them. You said the Xperia Z Ultra was pocketable in your jeans and I pointed out the size differences. The pics I posted are different sized jeans showing how 'pocketable' the Xperia ZU compared to the Mega 6.3. You just come back with a lame excuse about your list of phones and jeans. How old are you? 10?

EDIT: After reading your XDA post history I realised you're just trolling. I won't be feeding you any more, enjoy connecting your Xperia tablet to your PC.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Troute:
Well said.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
It actually was a window 8 issue and has been fixed because of the "useful" members of the forum.

However lets get back on topic. Again, all the picture you showed above, was 4 different people wearing 4 different jeans. Jeans pockets come in different sized, I really hope you know that. If you dont, now you do.

I guess the mega really fits into pockets. heh ?

So do we both agreed on different size pockets matter ? :D

The picture never showed the mega and ZU been in the same pocket. So what does that prove anything? those are 4 different pockets!

So how is my excuse lame ? telling you different devices i use is lame ? You are just mad that i am right about most of the stuff we talked about here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJx5sS8oU0 << ZU fits into pocket. yes it did.. :D

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He got nothing else he could say to prove that he was right. What does my XDA history have to do with anything we talk in this topic here? The guy read about 2 post on my history, and came to his conclusion.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
Just shows how slow you are, have you even read the whole

TechnoBuffalo

review? That photo is with the Mega intentionally put out the pocket for size, here's a photo of the reviewer with the Mega in his pocket sitting down:

Can you even do try with the Xperia Z Ultra? (Apparently you can in a non-regular sized jeans) The review even said:

"Now the big question: can it fit in your pocket? We

wear regular jeans

and the device was able to fit into our pocket

without any issue at all

. We did notice it felt super bulky once we sat down, however, and we often took it out while sitting at our desk."

Now go troll somewhere else.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
I actually tried with the ZU and again, it fits in my pockets well. Have you tried to put it in your pocket yet ? oh right, you dont have one....

define "Regular size jean" ?

So when someone is arguing with you does that consider trolling? What is the English terms of "Trolling" ?

EDIT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAJx5sS8oU0 oh yeah... "TROLL'ing alright...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
Your comments:

* "You tried to put in your pocket before? have you experienced with the ZU yet ? HOW THE

F

WOULD YOU KNOW ? just saying."

* "do you need the list of brands of jeans i wear ?"

* "again, would you like to know the list of brand of jeans i wear ?"

* "So you are telling me this is a Samsung Galaxy Mega idiot circle?"

* "Have you tried to put it in your pocket yet ? oh right, you dont have one."

Definition of troll: xatlx
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
So "regular" jeans for someone else might not be so regular to you. Got it.

Large pockets means its not "regular" size jeans. .. -- Got It!

So you put all my comments together, and defined that is trolling. great ! i love it!!

Show me a full picture of a guy who tested out 2 phones with one jean that is "regular" :D

EDIT: You never answered me, have you experienced with the ZU yet ?

Define "Regular size jean" ?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
There is what we call

regular fit jeans

.

Regular Fit: for an average build with little to no body fat, standard 2-4 inch ease around the body for a snug but not restrictive fit, some ease in the crotch, 2 inch ease in the seat and thighs.

Slim fit: For a younger man with no body fat, hips and waist the same girth and slender build in things and seat. 0-2 inches ease in all areas, no extra crotch ease, fractional ease in seat, thigh is cut smaller that standard fit.

Relaxed fit: cut roomier all around with 4+ inches ease in all areas. Fits a man with some body fat or a man who prefers a less restrictive pant. There is more ease and a "break" in the front crotch, an ease wedge in the center back fork and the thigh is cut larger in the back to accommodate a longer stride.

Skinny fit: similar to slim, some companies have re-labelled slim fits with the skinny label and made the pant legs narrow from thigh to ankle.

No, I have no experience of the Xperia ZU. I also don't have experience using cocaine but I can read information and see videos of people using them. I give evidence of my observations and you just boast as if Sony paid you. Your comments in this thread are inflammatory. You just spout some research when you get cornered. Again, we don't want a list of your jeans.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
I didnt see anywhere on what you just posted about pockets size could you please guide me ?

So you havent had experience with the ZU, how about some time testing with the ZU, how about actually try using one ?

I actually have one, and yes i paid money to sony so i could have one AKA "Buying the phone" When was i ever cornered in this convo ? LOL you never tried using the phone and yet you are arguing with someone who have the phone. Sigh... i dont feel too bad anymore :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
Of course the Xperia ZU will fit non-regular jeans, I can get clown pants and fit my laptop in them. One user commented it fits his cargo pants and I didn't comment because it does. You on the other hand made it personal by telling me 'HOW THE F WOULD YOU KNOW ?' and forcing me to ask about a list of your jeans so I gave my evidence using videos, spec measurements, and logic. You having something does not mean whatever you say about the device is right. Anyway, people can decide who has more sense in this 'CONVO', thanks for entertaining me. :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
Likewise :) Again pockets size defined regular and non regular? I never knew that. Again regular jeans for you, might not be regular for others it doesn't fit into your pocket '' I understand you didn't tried it yet'' doesn't mean it doesn't fit into others. I am right about what? All I'm staying is the ZU can fit into pockets and you are trying your best to prove me wrong. It in my pockets as I am typing this. :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kipue:
Am I the only one having enough of looking at crotch pictures?

haha!

Maybe a little bit of live and let live attitude would be beneficial to the discussion?

Even you people discussing might have pants with different sized pockets in the wardrobe meaning that one day that phone or the other will fit but another day it won"t?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Troute:
If live and let live had any meaning here at all this thread would not exist. Threads exactly like this one crop up on every device forum on XDA, they are all the same bull and all go the same way until the trolls move on to the next one.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
So far I have not encounter a single incident that my ZU doesn't fit inside my pocket. Have the phone for only 4 days.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] bleclair:
This thread is becoming pants! :laugh:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=pants

I know some people who played with my Note 2 and were like how can you use that?? How can you carry that? I thought it wasn't big enough! So device size and portability are subjective. My Mega 6.3 has been in my front left pocket since I got it with a TPU case and I have no problems.

I still love my Mega 6.3... about the only thing I don't like is I wish I had waited for 16gb (especially since with 8gb you only get about 5gb!) or Samsung would update the firmware to allow moving of apps to sd card. (I don't like rooting or mucking with my devices.) I didn't realize how many apps won't store to sd card, like pretty much every movie program. Otherwise the Mega 6.3 is an awesome phone! I definitely don't want to go back to a smaller screen. This is the first device I felt comfortable reading with my Kindle app for more than a few minutes.

However, I wouldn't mind a little bigger screen.. :D

My Ultra made it from Singapore to Hong Kong yesterday, and it's in LA now. Maybe it will make it to Albuquerque today, but don't want to get my hopes up.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kipue:
[MENTION=1068806]gx3k[/MENTION]

Good one ^^

cheers!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] alfstep:
what's going on with all this pocket-thing?

it's subjective for sure
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
We are just comparing pocketability of the Mega 6.3 and the Xperia ZU. The Mega 6.3 obviously fits more pockets and the Xperia ZU fits less pockets due to the difference in size. It's not subjective, it's a fact. You can't say the Xperia ZU is more pocketable than the Mega 6.3 because it's bigger and has squared edges/corners. We just got a bit carried away. :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] xatlx:
Were you feel forced? If so my apology :)

How can you feel forced over the net.? I guess I would never know.

Glad you are living happily now. Mission accomplished

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Hey man I hope you going to have a blast with your ZU as I am with mine. :) congrats!!!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] bleclair:
Got it Friday and I love it! The screen is gorgeous and it is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast. The battery also isn't as bad as I thought. I can easily use it for a little over a day with my usage. (So far.) And I normally install a power manager like Green Power.

About the only thing I don't like is the camera which isn't great. I think the Mega 6.3 camera was a little better. I guess that's maybe a sacrifice for the thinness and build quality? (Both of which appear to be amazing.)

EDIT: Oh yeah, and as for size it really doesn't feel that much bigger than the Mega 6.3, and fits in my front left cargo pants pocket no problemo.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
Good on you. I'm sure the top end specs will serve you well. How much did you pay for it? Here in the UK, the average price of the Xperia Z Ultra is double the price of the Mega 6.3 so I would expect a lot from it in terms of performance. I change my phone every year so hopefully Samsung will up their game for the Mega 2 next year. :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] bleclair:
It was $700, and I sold my Mega 6.3 for a good price. The Mega has been a little over $500 here for a while, but prices are dropping.

Who knows, Samsung may surprise us with the Note 3! I am still a big fan of Samsung, just wanted the biggest 6"+ screen I could get with 1080p.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gx3k:
I don't think the Note 3 will be 6+ inches and I didn't use the S pen a lot when I had the original Note so I'm not very interested in the Note 3. I'm sure Samsung will put high end specs on the next Mega because of even more competition from Sony, HTC, Nokia, Huawei, ZTE, etc. in the phablet category.

My dream phone for next year:

* Same size as the Mega

* Even less bezel for more screen

* Higher PPI screen

* High end CPU and GPU

* Bigger RAM and internal storage

* Better camera lens and optical stabilisation

* Bigger battery (removable)

* SD card slot

* Not important: stylus, waterproof, IR blaster, touchwiz gimmicks

EDIT: Did you know that both Sony and Samsung waterproof phones don't include water damage in their warranty? If you forgot to close the flap or it leaked inside for whatever reason they will not honor any free repair. Hopefully they change their minds.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Troute:
The one thing I'm finding tough to get used to with the Mega is the lack of bezel, I keep hitting the screen when I don't mean to. I need to adjust my thinking and actions to suit the phone better.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Same here. No issue at all.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gunblazer:
Sounds like you would be interested in the LG G2 that is coming out or being unveiled later this month. The only downside is that it is a 5.2 inch screen but it has almost no bezel.

Otherwise, note 3 in september would fit your bill =)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] darthmaul40:
please I have a picture request

:laugh:Guys - this is an excellent post I have been thoroughly entertained by the pocket/crotch and pants debate.

I have a request could you have a look at the ability to do handstands and cartwheels with the phone in different pockets???:laugh:

On a more serious note I think there is something about how people do adapt to devices and what was once considered ridiculous is now common place. I remember I was at a party and told someone that I had a NOTE and he was shocked and told be it could not be carried in a pocket etc.. I got it out and told him to put it in his pocket, which he did easily and was even more shocked and how well it fitted. I have not seen the Sony ZU yet but I have been impressed by the Mega.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chrisrotolo:
Ordering? Yes. Just pre-ordered Black c6806 on Negri w/overnight shipping.

The wait begins.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] nascar24usa:
I am considering same, although I do enjoy my Mega. You should get from Negri sometime first to second week of Sept. Negri is very good at getting when they say and prompt shipping.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] avsquare:
Got one yesterday evening. Mostly satisfied with it, but as many reviews reported, power management is probably something I'll take it as an issue.

With the same power consumption pattern as I usually do, this 3G set is eating as much power as my S4 LTE. Well, it's still pretty okay since my S4 LTE can give me 3-4hrs of screen time at 30% brightness and lasts a total of 8-10hrs up time. Just that in S4, I can swap out a fresh battery and move on but for ZU I need a powerbank to charge.

I can't imagine how fast the LTE version will go down :eek:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Since it's not in stores here yet, i pulled out my ruler and drew up the ZU's dimensions on a piece of paper and folded it afterwards, so i could hold it. Coming from a Galaxy Note; it's not that big. Don't get me wrong, it's huge, but i'm used to my Note and it's "shrinking" every day. It started out as a monster which people thought was a tablet, and it's the same thing now with the ZU. I don't mind the size at all, and i know i'll get used to it pretty quickly and it'll "shrink" like George Costanza after a quick swim.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] SpyderTracks:
I'm coming from the note also and for me it's the perfect size combined with the mini BT handset it'll be spot on, really looking forward to September release here in UK.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Tarzan-:
I've had it for 4 days now and it's great for my business needs, beautiful screen.

I've been using it with no stamina mode and 80% brightness. Getting 3 hours plus screen time with 15 hours on battery.

What's the point of having great screen with such low brightness? Don't want to sacrifice awesome screen for a couple of hours of standby, But it's my opinion btw I've also ordered magnetic dock.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Mhotep06:
Mine should be here tomorrow.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] wrxdrunkie:
I can't wait to get this phone. I'm hoping it comes to tmobile fairly soon otherwise I'll be forced to import one! I also want to pick up the BT handset, dock, and official Sony case. Super excited! The phone is gorgeous!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ApriliaM3:
I've had a cleanup in this thread guys and I'd prefer not to return for the same reasons.

TBH, I'm thinking this thread has run it's course but I'll give it one more chance.

There's no need for silly bickering and if you've got nothing constructive to add, simply don't post.

Thanks
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] nascar24usa:
THANK YOU

Finally the voice of reason, enough is enough already!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] stevie_velvet:
This will be replacing my 'Note I' for its role also, Well doen to Sony for trumping the Q3/Q4 market of 'HTC One MAX', 'Note III', LG & Huwai

[Happy with the HTC One, in it current role ~& do not need to think about Honami..its the perfect handset for me in this market segment withuot question]

Look out announcement in the 4G tariffs during september..& of course as I'm sure you are SBH-52

If 42MB HPSDA+ is enough, you should consider C6802 (which *should* work with 3 UK) ~ £540 inc Import Duty doing the rounds

Laslty on the SBH-52, remember there is already a SBH-50, which does not include speakers
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] lee480:
I acutally had the Mega 6.3 and the Ultra in my pocket and I just don't feel secure. Whenever I'm not standing, it's just feel awkward and have the feeling it's going to snap in half. Though it just subjective. If have to choose either, the Ultra is mine. Overall, perfect screen size is 5" and probably Sony Honami is for me.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] willstay:
I want my next phone to have wireless charging to save from constant usb plugging. Magnetic dock saves it somehow. But for me it is going to be Note 3 for these reasons -

1. Removable battery

2. External buttons (when I used tab that had on screen buttons, in few full screen games I had hard time exiting)

3. SD card
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] darth5zaft:
I think when HTC or Sammy slap in external button it create more problems than solving it. Android is design with on screen button and it work the best with it.

I use this to hide it when playing games. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
The ZU has SD card expansion.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] willstay:
Thanks LordManhattan for the correction. I need to use ZU for few days and see where it stands. I want to see if I can use android the way it is designed to work without external buttons.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
I understand how it can be frustrating with on-screen buttons, and accidentally hitting them when playing games, but like everything else; you get used to them and you won't hit them anymore. Can't do anything about the battery, but i believe i read about an external battery that's coming to the ZU soon. It'll work like on the iPhone (a case with a battery in it, which is connected through the USB or magnetic port? Maybe?). I can't back this up with a source since i have no idea where i got it from. I'm positive that i read it on the interwebs though :p

Edit: I found this for the Xperia Z. This is apparently also coming to the ZU. The one linked is a "no name" product (chinese, i guess), but Mugen is apparently also making a similar product for the Z (source), and it's therefore realistic to believe that they'll also make one for the ZU.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] corrado85:
i got my ZU today. i was in full rush to come back home from business trip and i am sort-of-disappointed.

Albeit, the screen size is awesome, the colors pop, the black/contrast ratio is subpar compare to my previous 2012 model HTC OneX (which used S-LCD2 -aka sony lcd). the blacks on HTC are 2x deeper than my ZU. again (on highest brightness setting), disappointing. why was this hard for Sony to achieve on its own flagship model, i don't know.

the internet speed is totally fine, i could care less for LTE (which i utilized on my OneX ) as i don't spot any difference for my needs of emailing, surfing, music streaming. I take advantage of HSPA+ which allows me to achieve D/L speed of 10mbit/s

i have fairly big hands, so holding the screen is not to bad at all. i am although afraid that i will definitely drop this one day.

i was happy to see earbuds w/ built-in mic was included.. i needed that

the speed is ok. i dont spot any difference between using my htc onex (which was on custom Plain rom)

it looks very sexy. was wanting to get white like my previous phone, but white definitely shows the true size of the phone. black makes phone look thin.

i wish i didnt get one with cool-temp LCD. -otherwise this phone is near perfect

I will use the ZU next few days so see if i am totally happy, but i am open to selling it back on market.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jnocomski:
If I wanted a Mega, I wouldn't be here. Will be buying the ZU here in MNL, PH soon! Coming from a Galaxy Tab, Galaxy Tab 2 and Note 2, i'm just ready for a non-Samsung device this time. :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Mythusme:
Waiting LTE version. The only thing I'm disappointed in this is the speaker, even tho sony an expert in this, but why htc one speaker is better, but what to do, I'm a sony's fan
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] stevie_velvet:
If the SBH-52 was bundled with the Xperia, instead of the SBH 20 standard bluetooth (supplier:Clove UK) then i'd likely be tempted.

As it is most buyer will flooded the auction market with SBH20 whihc most people are unlikely to buy over the SBH52
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] cenkaetaya:
is it just me or is this whole "water proof" concept completely un-necassary?

I have zero interest in that part. The phones warranty does not cover water damage...same with the Z.. so i will not be going swimming with it. If not then what is the point?

are you really that careless that you are worried about water damage?

I have never had a device that was water damaged, not a laptop, or phone or anything.

Paying the high price of non-removable battery is not worth it.

Sony seems to be on this waterproof rampage but all its doing is making their products worse overall.

What are we going to have next a waterproof TV? just incase there is a tsunami?

Id much rather have a better phone.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Its nice to have but not essential. Give peace of mind when out in the rain for example. I also dropped my phone in a puddle once l:o
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
There's a reason why it's called "accident". Look it up.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] corrado85:
its just us. dont worry.

you are prone to accidents infact :cyclops:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] unk_damnation:
Well my previous phones experienced water damages.

Old sony ericsson, java OS, dropped into puddle twice and lived to tell the story. Dumped because the keyboard is finally broken :laugh:

The second one is android smartphone. Not even dumped into a body of water, just got soaked in rain, and its hard-bricked.

So yes, you're probably not alone on your zero interest in waterproof-ness, but not me ;)

And this "better phone"... Oh well let the world throws us the best phone in the whole universe and we WILL always find something to bicker with :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Anadinolin:
Quoted for truth lol

Im waiting on the Honami release and the ZULTRA LTE stock to arrive in the UK, been wanting a new phone before my GS2 went "pop" so wanting it even badder now :P

for me it's a toss up between the two phones. - honami for its size and power (small enough for the pocket but similar spec to ZULTRA) or - ZULTRA as a statement piece ;) and size (bigger might be better?)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] sev7en:
I just make this snap today... Doha (Qatar):

Available but only the phone (no covers or accessories).
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] djmaxi:
Quite expensive in Doha for being a tax free place...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Livebyte:
I just pre-ordered my Z Ultra LTE and it will be coming to me on 2nd Sept.

Free gifts include SBH52, Case Cover & their guidebook.

EXCITING! :laugh:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
So we meet again :p Funny seeing a lot of Note users here (not surprised though).