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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] milkit18:
I'm selling mine if anyone is interested.

It's just the zerolemon 3000 mah battery as it came. With packaging and etc. Pm or email me at ydemircan2@gmail.com

If you want it. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
Really?! How long have u tested?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
Ya I have got 2 batteries too I can get rid of. I tore the label off one of them to try and get rid of the buldge it didn't work that great SK I just put the sticker back on
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] yocallmed:
Anyone done any endurance tests or gathered battery benchmarking app results?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Roco91:
Just got mine yesterday, put it straight on the charger for 12 hours - here are my first cycle's results.

I have the Neo Hybrid case and the bulge isn't noticeable at all. I did take the sticker off of mine. So far I'd say it is a little better than the stock battery, usually I average 3-3 1/2 hours of screen time. These stats are from using the phone normally all day, and a mix of Wi-Fi and cellular data (since my data is faster than my home WiFi)

Some texting, a lot of surfing, about 45 mins of YouTube, and music playing in the background for about an hour or two.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jimmer411:
Only 3.5 hours average? Ouch. Stock battery I average 5 with heavy lte usage. It looks like this battery is a waste compared to stock
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
3.5 hrs on stock batteru is what he was referring to
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Why would he post a screen of 4.5 if he averaged 3.5. Lol read more carefully his 3.5 was from stock battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] anilkuj:
just got mine today , fits perfectly just like the stock battery and dint have any difficulties closing the battery door . I dont notice any bulge either.

Putting it to charge now will update back with results later

PS: i haven't even removed the sticker.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] FLASHnox:
Could you post pics measuring the size of the battery? Also where did you order yours from? Just curious as to why some people are getting ones with a bulge and some do not. If all goes well, I should have mine today.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oilfighter:
just got my today too. Inserted the battery, noticed that the bottom right side sits higher than the rest. The back cover does close, with a bit more force than usual. There is a bulge, especially if you look at the back battery cover in a bright room. You'll see unevenness on the battery door. I can actually feel it too, but it's not very noticeable. I think I'll end up returning it, since I've never actually run out of battery on the stock battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] robotphood:
Can't compare usage with someone else though. Screen brightness could make a difference too. I could make it to 5 hours if I set mine lower towards 50%. Unfortunately it's too dim for me if it's light out. I'm closer to 4 hours.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Jay Slay:
just got mine today as well. I did notice the snug fit and the battery had to be forced closed. BUT, I'll see if I can tell the difference before returning.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ponts:
Got mine today and returning. Going with the Mugen 2750mah.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] soulzero:
Thanks for confusing the **** out of us.

This is the kinda post that kills the Internet m8.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
Not sure why peeps are returning so quickly.

Trying to refrain from posting results until after 5 cycles but heres my 2 cents (thus far)

Bulge: theres a slight bulge but not enough for me to return.

Battery life: hard to say but in the 2nd cycle im on...its slightly better than stock.

Again, ill provide full summary in a couple days.

So based on above stated and given the cost ($19 for both battery and charger)...

Its not a bad deal.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] zaki67:
Here are my stats after the 12 hour charge
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
I think a lot of people feel the same way a 12 dollar batter isn't worth risking warping or wrecking the battery compartment or even the back panel of a 700 dollar phone. Would you buy a new Benz and have a battery popping out the hood??
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Highly doubt you can damage the battery compartment with a battery that barely makes a tight fit. The back panel is a $5 replacement part. If your worried about warping a $5 piece of plastic that most people wont see inside your case then attach one of those bricks on a $700 phone made to be slim and have battery life for days. =D

Fyi I have no bulge and if there is I cant see it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
+1 worst case scenario, for this battery, it will be as good as stock. And for $11-12... That's a deal
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
If your battery was anything like mine it was also pressing on the sides of the housing eithint the phone. I am sure they made the dimensions of the stock battery the way they did for a valid reason trying to cram anything in there is asking for trouble. But you can defend your 12 dollar battery all you want. IMO its not worth possibly wrecking or even cracking the battery housing compartment on a 700 dollar phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
lulz. That make it even more irrefutable.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] GnexusPro:
Then stop complaining and use your oem battery? Is an extended battery obviously there will be bulge. Stop being "that guy"

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Cool. Then don't buy it

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Thanks. Glad to hear that it works with a neo hybrid case. (just ordered one with my battery)

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Woah you really argue. Alot. We don't need someone like you here.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Heres some pictures the best I can take. Using the Otterbox Defender case and have no problems. As you can see phone is not bulging at all.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] probablecauz69:
i removed the sticker and there is no more problem closing the back cover. i even have a qi receiver inside my phone and it still closes. as far as battery time i saw a considerable more charge time on the battery. now i am not a heavy user so i am not draining the battery watching movies and stuff. for the price it cost it is as good as stock if not better. plain and simple :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
As most people do. And being its all software based it can all be undone and reverted back to stock of you wish.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] NomisGnat:
on my 5th charge cycle (from 3%~10% to full charge 100%, remain on charger for another 2-3hrs)

there are improvement, but not great :(

my avg use on stock is ard 3 to 3.5hrs, getting almost same on this zl 3000mah, havent break 4hrs yet.

anyone here getting really noticeable improvement from this battery?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
On a side note i am noticing better battery life after running the ota that came out late last night I highly recommend updating and then go through a couple of cycles.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jimmer411:
I have my brightness set to auto.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] GnexusPro:
Dont listen to these people that probably didnt even buy it. Mine came in and there is zero bulk whatsoever. My cases fit just fine and the battery door was easy to put on. Way to mislead people
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] zaki67:
I am usually at 60% by 11 am on the standard battery on this one I am at 72 % which seems fair.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dwang:
Got almost 6 and a half hours screen on time with the zl 3000 mah battery.

Brightness set to auto. Running cm 10.1.

This is after 3 full charge cycles.

Battery gets a thumbs up from me.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Got this on 3rd cycle. 6.5hrs talk time and 4 hrs screen time. Bluetooth enabled on talk time. Mobile data always on. And brightness auto. Heavier usage.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Bizarre48:
I removed the sticker as well and the bulge is gone. Worth a try for people who have it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] play2lose:
I got mine from Amazon and while this battery IS a hair thicker than stock, I don't see a bulge in the battery cover.

But I think I got a DOA battery because when I place the battery in my phone and plug the cable in and turn the phone on it just shows the "phone off battery charging" screen for a split second then vibrates and reboots...and this just loops over and over.

Can you not charge the battery in the phone? Is their external charger required to charge it? Or did I get a OneLemon.. :crying:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Charges in my phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] AndreiLux:
Tried my luck since absolutely none of these posts contained a proper battery test.

The stock battery is 5.15mm thick, while the ZL with sticker is 5.64mm, and 5.46mm without it .

Using GLBenchmark 2.5 Egypt 50% 60fps battery test on airplane mode in the same environment.:

Stock battery: 2h58m

ZL first charge: 3h05m

ZL second charge: 3h03m

So far the battery doesn't deliver on its promises. A 4% increase is not 15%.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Biker1:
I have had my suspicions on these type of batteries for a while, and have been waiting for someone to do an unbiased scientific analysis of these batteries.

Thank you for taking the time to do this.

The numbers are the numbers.

I'll always purchase a spare OEM, even though they can be up to twice the money of non OEMs for the primary reason of Safety protocols tried & proven. Although other batteries may be as safe, it's not worth the risk imo to save approx. $12, especially when the performances are similar, but Safety First Aways.

When others would talk about not getting enough capacity or getting tremendous capacity, and then discussing why that is, and what to do to get better results, it was always subjective testing with so many variables, in addition to subliminal influence.

But here you have unbiased scientific testing.

These and other none OEM batteries of similar capacity, or touting hundreds of more mAh capacity in a stock size configuration is All Smoke & Mirrors.

Thanks again ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] AndreiLux:
You will never get full performance and capacity out of any third-party batteries simply because they won't be the same as the stock battery in terms of their characteristics. The phone's fuelgauge is calibrated to work best with the stock battery, it's a hardy process and is something that we don't really have any control on.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] chriskwarren:
Not what I expected

Got my batteries today and as you mentioned, they are physically thicker.

I don't like how I have to push it in the back door, and I really don't like how both my batteries created a bulge in the rear compartment cover.

Maybe I expected too much, but I'll be asking for a replacement set (some folks here reported that there was no bulging, etc) and/or a refund. I have had Andida and Hyperion batteries for my older Galaxy phones and never had an issue such as this.

If you want a couple of cheap batteries and don't care about the tighter fit or bulging, then these might be fine; if you are like me and want to use a battery that conforms to Samsung's physical dimension specs then look elsewhere. Also, I trust AndreiLux's tests and I don't like what he has reported above (given that maybe he has a 'bad' battery, etc)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
Happen to have the screenshots of these tests to be considered? Not saying your making it up, but with the way this thread is going I'd prefer proof instead of everyone just saying this or that without proof. :D And were you in power savings mode? Stock ROM? Ill set forth the same test and see my results.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] AndreiLux:
I think I have enough authority not to be doubted. Plus I'm getting better battery life than almost any of the people here in this thread with their usage screenshots on the stock battery... such posts are all meaningless since it's too many variables to consider. Also keep in mind that the battery wear might be different for everybody.

It's even useless to compare different user scores on the same environment, each SoC will have different quality and may use more or less power. You need to do a proper drain benchmark and compare your own phone with the stock versus the new battery. I find the GLBenchmark battery tests the most practical.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
In the end, one will have to decide if they want to take the $12-$20 gamble on this battery.

For me, im keeping this battery. At the very least...its as good as stock which makes this a decent backup.

Ill post screenshots of the end of my 3rd cycle soon...pretty damn good.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ranchosteve:
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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
I think you have the wrong thread. This is for the 3000mah ZL battery that fits under stock back cover. No tpu case needed.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ranchosteve:
Oops thanks for point ing that out
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
End of 3rd cycle.

Running GoldenEye rom with KT kernel

Did not freeze/turn off any S apps

About 20-30 mins Youtube

Downloaded about 2gb of stuff

Lots of texting

Lota of browsing

No calls today.

As said prebiously by others, mileage may vary but im pretty impressed by the ZL battery so far
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
I'm really beginning to feel that there must be some individuals posting inside these Zerolemon threads that are from the competition side. I say this because I finally got my 3000mah Zerolemon today and I don't have any bulging issues.

I was getting anxious reading all the negative impressions and reviews, feeling fully ready to return the Zerolemon and just buy the OEM battery and charging kit with my 50% coupon.

And to make it worse, my delivery was behind schedule and I only got the battery today (I was supposed to get it on the 5th).

To my pleasant surprise, the battery went in just fine with the sticker intact and the cover snapped on with no bulge. Just to make sure my tactile ability and vision was working correctly, I even had my wifey and mom examine the phone without telling them I had a non-OEM battery inside. Neither of them detected or felt any bulges.

It was, however, more difficult to seat the battery in compared to oem, especially the lower-left corner. I expected super-snugness but it wasnt as tight and bad as I expected. In fact, I had a harder time fitting in the 7500mah battery when I tried to install it for the first time.

I dont know why I'm not experiencing the bulging problems as others. My phone was one of the first batches that went out during the preorder period. Even my 3000mah Zerolemon battery must be one of the first batches because I placed my order for it the day the battery became available and it was shipped out the very next day (although I received my battery so late compared to others).

I do have one theory, though, as to why I may not be affected. Maybe it's because when Zerolemon assembled my particular battery unit, they tightly and flushly wrapped the sticker around the battery, enabling smooth installation.

I'm not saying that all the people who are complaining about the bulging problem are liars and paid-off people. But I have a hunch that we do have some of that type of people mixed in here. And I dont think it's a far fetched idea. After all, the aftermarket battery market is a big and lucrative one and I'm sure there are some desperate and deceitful business people out there trying hard to muck up the competition by spreading FUD to promote themselves.

Anyhow, enough about that and now it's time to see if this battery offers some improvement over the OEM. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
Would you like me to make a video for you of two batteries showing this? I don't know why people insist in being in denial about the bulging and try to spin it like its a conspiracy theory! They are two big! They aren't stock! Except it and let's move on!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Roco91:
This is my 2nd/3rd cycle - can't remember which.

I'm running GE with KT's kernel. I've always had a bad signal because of where I live so I've kind of always had less than awesome battery life.

This is the first time I've ever had 5hrs of screen time on ANY phone. Definitely happy with this battery.

Also on a side-note, the stock battery seemed to always drain extra fast through the last 5% - but that doesn't happen at all with this battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
I don't think anyone is trying to deny you have a bulge. Were just stating we don't have a bulge and like Zero-lemon said that if your phone bulges its a case of battery swell, which they will take back and send you new ones. The thing I don't get I why you continually bash them to other people interested in the product. Just because your experience wasn't great doesn't mean everyone else will be also. For a $12 battery I don't expect the world :D But $12 with a 30 day no hassle money back guarantee and a 180 day warranty. Kinda hard to beat :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xCovErtWolFx757:
Yea bust so me people who had the bulge took the label off and now we no longer can get a new battery because the warranty is now void
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] chriskwarren:
If anyone is concerned about fraudulent claims in this thread, perhaps a quick glance at the member's posting history is a good idea? Same goes for sites like Amazon. I highly doubt that fraudulent reviewers would makes dozens of posts on various topics just so they can plant bad reviews in threads like this.

It's no secret that great reviews from a forum such as this will drive sales; XDA is full of power users who influence the buying decisions of other users. While we are a small subset of the population, we are also resources for those not on the forum.

A lot of what you see going on in this thread are folks getting their backs up trying to defend claims which are hard to defend in many cases since the experiences are either subjective or have too many factors involved. Throw in the odd person who feels compelled to pick apart and dissect each syllable and you end up with people who feel they are being attacked over a silly battery.

As for myself, the battery was advertised by the seller as being the same size as OEM (eBay seller says "Compatible with all Galaxy S4 models. Largest Capacity Original Size Battery in the World Guarantee" in the ad). I personally feel uncomfortable using a battery that does not meet Samsung's specs for size and shape, as I have no idea what the Galaxy S4's tolerances are when it comes to the extra pressure this battery exerts. It should be fine but if one day I get a cracked screen, etc. then I would like to rule out a silly cheap battery as a factor, even if its just minor. The thing I get a chuckle out of is that I paid approx $10 to ship a $26 kit, and it might end up costing me as much to ship back to Texas from Canada. Not the end of the world for me but annoying. If this eBay seller is shipping these out knowing that many of them are not as described ("Compatible with all Galaxy S4 models. Largest Capacity Original Size Battery in the World Guarantee") then I'll go through the trouble of getting them to ship me another kit at their expense as a replacement.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Biker1:
As previously quoted from ZL, 'Battery Swell' :(

Hmmm...... think about that for a moment...... And what that exactly means.....

There is a high probability that there's a lot more going on here than having your battery cover fit snuggly, or having a slight bump in your cover.

Take a look at what causes 'Battery Swell'

http://sites.uci.edu/lifepo4battery/2011/05/19/swollen-lithium-batteries-swell-costs/

And there are many sites that recommend Strongly not to charge a li-ion battery that displays Battery Swell, and to either discard it or return it.

There may be other reasons for a battery swelling which are benign, but I haven't come across any yet ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Toss3:
Just received mine yesterday (ordered 2 with the charger). Had some issues with the fit as many others, but it was solved by simply removing the sticker around the battery (which was pretty horribly applied). Been running the first one after a 12 hour charge, and currently at 20h 31m 15s with a screen on time of 2h 31m, and 15% remaining. A lot better than what I had on the stock battery (on Android 4.3 right now). For 30€ I think this was a complete steal and would recommend it to others (as I already have). :good:

EDIT: This was with a couple of hours of phone-calls due to insurance stuff, a lot of browsing and some music listening and streaming with Spotify.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oilfighter:
I complained before about the poor fit, and filed a return with Amazon. But as I was boxing it up, I couldn't resist the urge to peel the sticker off. With the whole sticker wrapper gone, the fit is good now. No more bulge, and battery door closes fine. It no longer seem like such a tight fit that something will get damaged.

So I'll be keeping the battery, even IF it's the same capacity as stock (I haven't tested this yet). It'll be nice to have the ability to do a quick 10 second battery swap, and be ready to go.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] paolopaulpaul:
do you like drums and valid or not so much?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] AndreiLux:
I'd recommend people to learn the difference between the battery cover slightly bulging, and the actual battery having a bulge. The former means nothing, just that the battery is 0.3-0.4mm thicker than the OEM battery. The latter means it's a defective battery. The ZL battery is perfectly flat, it's not defective.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xCovErtWolFx757:
I can't take the label off, because underneath the label it is metal and I am getting a metal case in soon and when you put it on you can't have a back cover so I wouldn't think metal on metal would be a good idea
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oilfighter:
can you post a link to the case?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xCovErtWolFx757:
http://www.casefanatic.com/samsung-...kommandant-samsung-galaxy-s4-metal-case-case/
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] body150165:
Now we have 26 pages of arguing about size, capacity and everything else. But we do not have even one proof of the actual capacity of this battery.

Posting battery stats are no proof IMO as they depend on personal settings and usage.

Did nobody ever have the idea to make this kind of test? Amperemeter, a clock and a bulb should be enough to verify the capacity.

I don't have this battery, but all discussion could be finished with this. Either it is a 3000mAh or it is a real "lemon".

Be nice with each other.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MR8SIN:
No real proof unfortunately. I don't think it'll really change either way. The people that weren't satisfied will continue to say one thing and the people that are getting good results will say another.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Wiidesire:
this the only first "good" test. However I'd like to see more of this :)