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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Wiidesire:
I also ordered the 2 batteries +charger including shipping for 29€ to Germany via ebay. Let's see how long it takes.

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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] samdsox:
Don't bother with expedited shipping. Its a waste of money and their claim of 1-3 business days is pure BS. Who the hell ships via dhl anyway? -Especially in the US from texas to massachusetts. I mean really? If they had used ups or fedex or even usps, it would have made it in that time. DHL sucks and now I have to wait till after my trip for the batter~not happy...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rushco:
Mine came in 4 days. It weighs 4 grams more. It does not sit flush to the device like the stock battery. My back cover still snapped on and my case (seidio active) still fits. Just started using it so no battery stats yet.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] samdsox:
would it be a problem when combined with wireless charging insert?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] milkit18:
Why does the link with just the battery say + world's fastest usb charger? Is a charger included as well?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] gigadigit:
Has anyone tested this battery with the OEM wireless charging cover for NFC compatibility? If it works, I might go ahead and get both.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] prstorero:
I doubt it would work. With the increased size, it is pushed to the maximum of the available space between the battery and the cover. With the wireless being built in with the new cover, it probably wouldn't close correctly.

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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
So does it buldge out the back? Change the profile of the phone at all?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] vw671:
Can someone please measure the thickness with calipers when they get it? Thanks in Advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] thereal2x:
Just got mine. Noticeably thicker and heavier. Back cover barely shut lol but when it did I didn't notice any bulges or anything. Neo hybrid case still fit perfectly.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
Good to know! Let us know how it performs
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] alphadog00:
I am using the Onite batteries and they are hair thicker - they fit with OEM wireless cover. If the stock cover closes, the wireless cover should too.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrbro0ks:
Just got mine in today, battery is a little thicker than original. Somewhat difficult to shut the back cover but once it's shut it does stay shut. I'm using a neo hybrid case and it does fit fine but there is obviously a slight buldge with tpu.

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Does anyone know of a app that can measure the mah?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mem4720:
Someone asked for thickness. Here is the thickness and weight I measured:

Samsung 5.2mm, 43.5g

ZL with label 5.7mm, 47.5g

ZL without label 5.5mm, 46.7g

Removing the label from the Zerolemon makes it fit the battery compartment better, but it does leave a sticky residue. It took about 10 minutes of cleaning with solvents to remove the glue.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
Now we just need battery stats!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
Android Tuner. I bought it 2 days ago when it was on sale. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] sheriffa:
Battery stats please :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
Got the battery. It fits with my wireless charging receiver (the tin foil sticker one) Had to really snap the cover on. It bulges but my UAG case and obliq slim tpu fit fine.

Charged it to 98% and the battery is already at 79 with 17 minutes if screen time -_- Hoping I get better results after a full charge
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrbro0ks:
I believe the instructions say to charge for 12 hours before the first use, maybe that has something to do with your stats?

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Thanks, I tried the free version and it says 2600 mah but I'm not buying it. The battery is thicker and heavier than the original so I would have to think that it's truly 3000 mah. I'll report back after a couple days of usage.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MANswers:
New to the forum, and this is my first post. Want to make productive post by asking for a decent product as this battery.

Anyone used the 7500mAh Extended Battery which also supports NFC?

Is it worth replacing the stock battery to this one, its like almost three times more power to the original stock battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rushco:
I took it off the charger at 100% and used it as much as possible. I mainly used chrome, twitter and google+. Had a short phone call in there too.

All the sensors like smart stay, air gestures, NFC, bluetooth were off.

I used LTE and WIFI. Google now is on. Google services are syncing in the background. Screen brightness was around 25%-40% the whole time which I believe helped get me such a long screen on time. Also just using chrome, g+ and twitter helped along with being in a good signal area.

Next I'll go for 24+ hours off the charger and see what I can get.

I never charged the phone or restarted the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nouf69:
3000mAh Galaxy S4 Slim battery

impressive:cyclops:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
I have this battery coming soon (hopefully tomorrow) but your stats don't seem too promising. 6 hrs 40 mins of screen time on 7 hrs of total uptime doesn't seem very impressive. I think with my tweaks (apps, mods, undervolted kernel), I could pull off something similar with the OEM battery.

I hope to be wrong and that this ZeroLemon battery will pleasantly surprise me. I wouldn't go as far to return the battery if not much better than OEM but I'd still keep it as a slim, OEM-sized backup when I don't feel like using the 7500mah ZeroLemon battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KR29:
I just bought: '[180 days warranty] ZeroLemon 2x Samsung Galaxy S4 3000mAh Battery .....;)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] msavic6:
His results were also obtained with all sensors off. I have been getting 5:30 screen time with all the smart features on when just using wifi with the stock battery. This 3000mAh battery is turning out to be not too impressive and in my opinion not worth the loss of NFC.

Keep posting battery results!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
So I got the battery it was at 59% only had time to charge to about 92%

Here is my stats most of the screen on time was just a PDF file being read though
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
It's probably fare to say had you made it too 100% you would have gotten around 530 on screen time which would correlate to what the poster above was saying.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ezcape:
There is 3380mAh and 3500mAh. China brand yes but it is bigger then the 3000. I ordered the 3380 off eBay and got it last night. Today will be my first day off a full charge so I'll see how it does.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] surge27:
Fits stock battery door?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ezcape:
Yes,

I got this one.. I've bought Acesoft before, they sell good batteries. Took about 3 days to get to me.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AceSoft-338..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item3382917ec1

Here is the 3500 but from Hong Kong, takes about 2-3 weeks.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MPJ-3500mAh..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item338259fcae
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
As with the 7500mah battery, I caution everyone not to put too much stock into your first cycle. On the 7500mah, I only got 10 hours of screen on time on the first cycle, but now average more like 12-13 hours.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jax5ter:
I might try the one from Hong Kong I just bought 2 onite batteries with chargee
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] niv3d:
Ugh! Just ordered the ZL 3000mah should be here today or tomorrow
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] frrlod:
Don't you dare feel bad. Those batteries don't compare. (At least the Hong Kong ones... About the Acesoft I'm not sure, but I very much doubt they're better than the ZL version)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] niv3d:
Thank you sir lol. Anything I need to know about the ZL when I get it?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] frrlod:
It makes the cover bulge a bit. As mentioned before in this thread (whoever did it deserves credit) - you can take off the stickers to reduce the battery width which makes it fit better. Anyway, the case does close properly but perhaps with a little effort. Cases do seem to fit the phone properly even with the slightly larger battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] niv3d:
Yea I saw that. I should be able to remove the sticker no problem. Which I will do to decrease the bulge on the cover
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] avetny:
Be aware !!!

Ships from and sold by Bastexwireless - Authorized ZeroLemon Retailer.

I don't like this battery

right away after unboxing

Im not talking about battery performance yet, it's on the charge for now

Let's start with unpacking. It comes simply packed as this:

Inside you will find "world fast" charging system

Good feature is additional usb slot for regular charging cable.

Now what I did not like.

Battery don't have a "mAh" numerical index.

In simple words the battery does not say how much mAh capacity it got.

Again

nowhere says about "mAh"

and that is very unprofessional and deceptively strange. So simply inside can be any number of mAh guys.

The battery is identical to the size of original.

Sticker easily coming off.

Conclusion:

I can't tell yet about battery life., BUT I already can say

"Zero-Lemon"

LOOKS and IT FEELS like a chip ass chinese battery.

This is how battery suppose to be:

Not as this
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
So you don't like the battery that you haven't actually used yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] avetny:
correct.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
ZL charger is the same cheap-o chargers you see on ebay (just diff color plastic.)

As for the battery, bet $$ this battery is not true 3000mAh despite what they claim, and the ZL sources their batteries from same Chinese manufacturers/wholesalers like most other companies:

- Most battery wholesalers/jobbers in China will sell you S4 battery for $1~$3 per battery depending on the capacity, size of the order (usually minimum 100 units at ~$3) and wrapper customization (more colors, more expensive.)

- The battery is selling for $12 on eBay and Amazon. That means the ZL profit is roughly $7~9 per battery.

- Do you wonder why so many people are getting into aftermarket battery business? Easy and cheap to source (just Google "chinese wholesale phone batteries"), small and easy to store, product doesn't go bad for a year, etc, etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] borgqueenx:
Still waiting for impressions against standard battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Rafael4096:
Just got mine........but just the battery...no charger even though it was advertised with the worlds faster charger.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oilfighter:
i'm guessing you paid around $10? That one only has the battery (even though the title said with charger)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
[MENTION=2751672]avetny[/MENTION]

You say its the exact same size as the original as far as dimensions are concerned? So why are other reporting bulging in the back?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Rafael4096:
That would explain it.

Its not like the battery is overpriced.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Roco91:
That doesn't make any sense. The battery could come packaged in an old shoebox for all I care, but if it has good performance then the aesthetics don't really matter.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] avetny:
Ok I will tell how battery performance is.

Regards.

Sorry if I was rude
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
Is anybody having wireless charging issues with this battery?

I bought 2. The one in my girlfriends phone works fine with wireless charging (or so she says i'll have to confirm). The one in my phone keeps rapidly connecting and disconnecting. Wasn't sure if it was my pad or receiver so I just put back in my stock battery and it works fine been charging for 30 minutes now.

With this battery in the most I can get it charging for is a minute then it starts connecting and disconnecting until my wireless charging pad flashes and doesn't send any more juice
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] thereal2x:
Ok so just finished my first day with the battery. 9 hours of no use at work followed by 3+ hours of games lol backlight at 40 percent. Stock rom. ktoon kernel. mobile data off all day. I'm gonna say it's a tiny bit better than stock battery so far
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xCovErtWolFx757:
"What did you doing"

Seems to me your not answering to him because you have nothing good left to even say. It'd be nice for you to stop being rude so you don't have a xda vacation coming your way.

Fear isn’t ‘evil’, it only allows us to learn our own weaknesses. When we learn our weakness, people can grow stronger and kinder.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
Are you making the comparison against a brand new OEM battery?

As you know every time a battery is cycled (discharge/charge), it loses bit of its capacity.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] thereal2x:
No I'm making the comparison to my one month old oem battery
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Noob-xda:
They have a NFC Enabled one... But it's only 2,650mAH

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZeroLemon-2..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item43bd3d99d3
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
Lots of bickering going on here for no reason at all. Trying to get an answer to this question so I know if my battery is defective or not.

Is anybody having wireless charging issues with this battery?

I bought 2. The one in my girlfriends phone works fine with wireless charging (or so she says i'll have to confirm). The one in my phone keeps rapidly connecting and disconnecting. Wasn't sure if it was my pad or receiver so I just put back in my stock battery and it works fine been charging for 30 minutes now.

With this battery in the most I can get it charging for is a minute then it starts connecting and disconnecting until my wireless charging pad flashes and doesn't send any more juice
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] norml:
My only trepidation about buying a set of these batts is the size, I'm reading that many of you had to take the sticker off, but it's still tight, I dunno about that.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KR29:
In a few day's when i have it i can tell you for the size more thinks...;)

I wait it...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] GnexusPro:
Ordered mine can't wait. I'll post some usage screenshots :)when I get it. hope to see about an hour more on screen time .does anyone know if this will work with my otterbox?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] robotphood:
Thanks to you guinea pigs out there. Please keep us updated. It'd also be nice if those with the batteries chimed in about any fit issues as well. How noticeable is the bulge for those that have them?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrbro0ks:
The buldge is noticeable, not bad but it is there. As others have said the back door does shut it just takes a little finesse and once shut it does stay shut.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nouf69:
So pretty battery

it seem is good ....wait result
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] borgqueenx:
looking forwards to your results :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] avetny:
So, after 12 hours of charge I plugged the battery. When the battery is charged the LED changing color from red to blue.

Now, in spite of the size of the battery in photos

It becomes very difficult to close the back plastic door of the phone.

Due to that you can "see" and "feel" the "deformation" of the rear cover. (no matter you take the sticker off or not)

mod edit

The battery life/performance I will post immediately after the full test.

Stay tuned.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nouf69:
I am Sorry Sir ...;

I'm sorry, man did not mean it ....I mean, wait for the result :eek:

I'm really bad in the English language:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] killerxmic:
Just received the battery today. Will do a few cycles before posting results!

It does bulge a little but I took the little S/N sticker off and tape it down and its much better.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ladiesman2927:
Just a fair warning for you guys:

http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero...dp_top_cm_cr_acr_txt?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1

All of these 5 star reviews on the Amazon website are fake. If you click "see all reviews" for each of these individual reviewers, they all have only reviewed this single product on all of their accounts. None of them are Amazon verified purchases either and you can basically tell from the way these "testimonials" are written. I won't be buying such a sketchy product.

As of last night, I was able to get over 15 hrs of usage with 5 hrs 36 min of on screen time with the stock battery with 6% left. I use MintJelly V3 and the kt kernel with his recommended settings along with greenify + juice defender ultimate. I also have this crossbreeder mod here. I use auto-brightness and all of my gesture sensors are turned off (mainly because I don't use them) with only smart stay enabled.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] killerxmic:
Oh damn you're right... that IS mad shady. I wonder why they're doing that. Ppl were saying how great their batteries are already.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
I just hit no to those reviewers being helpful. Not even verified purchases. Thanks for the warning.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
Reported them as feedback abuse.

It's an insult that they think they can hoodwink buyers (knowledgeable XDA members no less.)

Other ZL products on Amazon also has fake reviews. Def shady.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ponts:
Regretting my purchase and it hasn't even arrived.....
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jboodram:
Bout the acesoft battery it last a bit less than stock dont even bother...I have a review about it aswell..they gave me a full refund though
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
So the take away so far is:

Buldging cover

Little if any actual battery life again

No NFC

This seem accurate so far?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
Thanks for the detailed info and pics. So instead of using higher density cells which cost more, they are just using slightly bigger cells to to claim "3000mAh" (which I doubt in spite of the thicker form factor.)

To folks comparing this ZL battery to OEM battery: Please use brand new ZL and OEM batteries when doing a comp review. I've read many battery threads in the past where testers compare used OEM battery vs a new aftermarket battery. Since batteries lose capacity (yes, even Li-ion variety) every time it is cycled (discharge/charge), this would not be an accurate comparison.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] niv3d:
Well I just charged my 3000mah ZL for 7.5 hours, peeled the sticker off and installed it. I will say the bulge is hardly noticeable. I tend to be OCD about things of that nature but it is not bad at all! Especially once I placed my neo cover back on, you cant tell there is a bulge whatsoever.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
Got mine today but didn't even open the package leaning towards just sending them back and asking for a refund.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
So far so good on mine. Got 5.5 hours on my first cycle. Is provide screen shots but I had like 5 reboots because I was flashing different themes.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
Screenshots?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
No screen shot. As I said, I was flashing things which reset my stats.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] robotphood:
How is that compared to your normal usage on the stock battery?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Aquethys:
Hi guys;

The moderators have had to stop in here for quite a few times now. Let's show some respect to each other, no insults please.

Please consider this a warning - we are watching you ;)

Mod Aquethys
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
I so badly want to test out this battery but for the 3000mah battery, DHL and/or USPS have dropped the ball and still haven't gotten mine. Can someone post a few screenshots of the back of the phone after closing the backcover? I wanna how bad this bulge is.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] msavic6:
If you scroll up a bit, someone posted images of the back with the battery installed.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
About 45 to 60 minutes better than stock. My best screen on time with stock is usually around 4hr,45min.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] niv3d:
This is the first charge on the 3000mah ZL.

The bulge is hardly noticeable by the way
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
Stats? What were you flashing that deleted screen capture images? Would you say making changes to the os/ROM/kernel/radio/etc may affect battery comparo?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] JaeKay:
No, he means he had to wipe data and cache when he flashed again and again, and the battery stats start over as it recognizes the device as a new phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
"It recognizes the device as new phone"?

What is "it"?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] JaeKay:
The battery level detector. In this case gsam
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] knarfl1:
So his "battery stats" diapers because he was flashing new themes?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
When you flash mods like CrossBreeder or a new kernel, the battery stats become altered. Therefore, it's not reliable enough to be posted.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] JaeKay:
No, new ROMs I believe. And yes. They "diapers". Anyways, just drop it. If i doesn't have his stats yet, doesn't mean he is trying to lie to us or antrhing
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oilfighter:
it takes battery power to flash a ROM. So say you started with 100%, by the time he reboots into a new ROM, he could very well be at 90%. He cant give you a measurement of battery used during the backup/flash session, since it's outside of Android OS.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
Lol thanks for responding in my absence. Yeah I was flashing status bar mods all day so I had to manually add it up as I went along.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cas8180:
I commented on the buldge on there Facebook posting and one Rep said it could be a defective battery. Now indojt buy this at first I think the battery is just bigger but they said they could replace the battery.

http://m.facebook.com/#!/zerolemon?id=416548268438120&_rdr

Be sure to read the comments for the post related to this battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xCovErtWolFx757:
Are you sure that guy is a rep?

Fear isn’t ‘evil’, it only allows us to learn our own weaknesses. When we learn our weakness, people can grow stronger and kinder.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] FLASHnox:
Still a bit skeptical, it's either 2 ZL batteries and external charger or 1 Oem battery and charger. Both are around the same price.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] lambstone:
Yeah, I think ZL stuffed up with the 3000mah batteries.

Some are popping up on eBay that shows it has NFC enabled.

It's even from the authorized distributor with tens of thousands of feedback.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] NomisGnat:
don't get this battery, got it and aft two cycle of charge, i concluded its definitely not 3000mah quality. And yes, the battery is over size which aft closing the back cover, create a bump like the pic posted in a few post earlier. so it definitely not just a few isolated cases thats affected!

my previous megan power 2750mAh battery first charge out perform it!

Shame on you zl!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ButtsPoopington:
i ordered the 2 battery and charger package from anker, hope i have better luck than the problems with this brand. same price too, got it off amazon
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] FLASHnox:
This battery is most likely the same battery as anker, just re-branded. If you look at the anker reviews it suffers the same problems with bulging. I decided to place the order for the zero lemon batteries, but I'm still a bit skeptical. If anything I'll have it sent back and get the oem bbatteries with a charger.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] chriskwarren:
Any bulges in my phone after installing a battery and I will send it back as item not as described or defective. I bought off Bastexwireless on eBay. I'll give them one shot to send me the item as described.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrbro0ks:
I'm getting no better batter let feel than I did on the original, save yourself the trouble and DO NOT Buy.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] milkit18:
I'm so so with this battery.

Yes there is a slight bulge behind the phone.

My seidio active case fits better now.

My oem battery seems to work better but I'm still cycling. It's a fine spare to have.

Def. Not like the oem 3000mah extended battery I had on my s3