yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jpisini:
I appreciate the response but I have no idea what you mean. Most instructions are written assuming I know what I am doing and on a nexus, Evo, or Ideapad I do but this device seems different where you can't write to system.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
Fwiw I just woke up the nook after watching YouTube a while ago and system ui crashes and I kept getting the same error over and over. Had to reboot. I'm on latest build.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Alright, building now with the magic boot.img patch (thank you verygreen!!!!!)

As usual for testing purposes when I am trying something new - hummingbird first.

Build is flying by though should be able to flash it before work and at least start build for ovation if it works correctly.

I may have noticed the problem with framework-res in ovation is that it's using xlarge aapt config. When it was replaced by framework-res from hummingbird, with all the same configs except xlarge it worked.

I'll build again keeping the xlarge config, if you get crazy FC's then I'll know why.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] henry8668:
I currently have cwm, how can I replace it with twrp?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bpaulien:
Except for the fact that (at least the version on the emmc) TWRP doesn't do backup / restore correctly. I don't have personal experience because I use CWM, but in that other thread, there's lots of talk about the TWRP recovery not working for backup / restore.

I personally don't need the touch recovery in order to be happy, but I know some people prefer it.

Just wanted to let you know. There may be a good reason not to use it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Flash the twrp zip in recovery.

I'm using cwm because nobody has complained about it failing to backup/restore.

Maybe someone will buy a nook HD/HD+ and want to maintain twrp for us ;)

Update might be delayed, lightning strikes here and I lose power in my apartment. Besides my laptops barely functioning fan, it also has a battery that no longer holds a charge... Wonderful I know lol.

So now I'm just sitting around without power, yay.

I'm about to go ape s*** on whoever is running these apartment if my power doesn't come on... One thing you don't do is come between me and my computer, especially right while I'm trying to build FML lol.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
TWRP, as it stands now, I don't think it's a good alternative for us. As mentioned above by bpaulien, it has issues with backup/restore on emmc. This was also mentioned by leapinlar, as well as some others.

I tried it when I first picked up my HD+, as I have it on my N7 and my wife's Gtab 2. It seemed fine for flashing zips but on backup, it started to backup my external 32gb sdcard, just didn't look right. I hard reset then booted back into it and flashed CWM, although kinda' archaic, it reliably works.

On another note, killersloth, I updated to Carbon's latest nightly 0630 on my N7 and had to revert back to 06/27. I already posted in the N7 forum, some odd issues with UI and stuff.

After 2 unsuccessful tries, I had to do a complete wipe just to install it. Once installed, changing the UI to tablet wouldn't work, had to reboot for it to show up. Then tried changing to phablet UI, same thing, wouldn't work. So, I rebooted but it just hung at the Carbon logo.

Lastly, some oddness with the recent ram bar. The numbers appeared to be wacky showing apps & cache, one time it showed 1005mb used, -31mb free???

Figured I'd mention this to you, as you probably are synced with their latest. So, don't know how this will affect your build.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Took a nap, power is back on.

Sleep... It always inspires me. Since I won't have time before work to start both builds, why not make a script to just do it for me while I'm away?

So, when I get off work, I should have two completed builds to upload. If the kernel is still a fail, I'll use VG's latest, but there 'should' be an update tonight when I get off work if not everything is a fail ;)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] YevOmega:
According to the feature list, this ROM has Halo. How's that working? Manage to get it to work on this device?

Nice work killersloth. I'm going to wait until at least the next build, then try it out on my HD+.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Yep, halo works.

After toggling it on in settings, I had to switch to phone/phablet ui and press the halo icon in notification drop-down.

There appeared to be no halo icon in notifications of tablet ui.

After its on and showing though, you can switch back to tablet ui and keep halo up still.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] YevOmega:
Nice. Perfect.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bckrupps:
can someone tell me how to set up my lockscreen like the ones in the screenshots on the first page. preferablly the one with the chrome and facebook icons. im not educated enough with this rom to figure out where it is in settings. thanks. i have the nook hd+ if it matters
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] sanvara:
Distortion when playing music

When I turn volume to highest setting using headphones the sound starts breaking up. This doesn't happen with the stock rom. Is there a fix other than not turning the volume up so loud?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Try viper4android or some other audio mod.

Unfortunately, this isn't stock ROM, so some things just can't work the same.

Fortunately, there are so many options available to you to improve audio output quality that you won't be disappointed :p
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
In lock screen options you move the slider in the direction you want the shortcut to be, then choose what action you would like there. Play with it a bit you'll have it figured out in no time at all.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gamemastery4k:
Is it just me or the touch screen a little sluggish and lag? Is cm10.1 have tye same problem?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] wy1d:
Most complain of touch issues with either build I noticed it more on Carbon but it may be placebo. Try both and report back?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jptesar:
Hopefully it's just the n7, the same build date is running perfectly on my nexus 10 and s3. To be clear, I'm not wishing ill intent on your nexus 7. :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Using HD or HD+?

I have had some slight moments of unresponsiveness on my HD, usually with keyboard or small navbuttons in tab ui. Keyboard problems are easily resolved by locking and unlocking screen, noticed it on verygreens build and my own.

Someone mentioned that the frequency ramps up slowly and that using a live wallpaper helps. Soon I should be able to work on the governors and hopefully fix that issue.

Work sucks tonight I want to be working on this project lol
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gamemastery4k:
Hd+ I am going try out cm10.1 and report back when I can
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Kernel built and booted, but there's a mixup in my repos or something because BT and WiFi were broken.

Worked fine with VGs 6/30 kernel

Celebratory beer run, when I get back then uploads. It'll be about 10 mins.

HD+ is using compiled framework with xlarge so it might have some FC's. Let me know. If so I have to use hummingbirds framework-res and I'll know not to build with aapt pointing at xlarge next time.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bornagainpenguin:
Awesome update! Can confirm that XBMC now playing video without issue. Thanks for encouraging me to try the latest build.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
New builds up (B3)

Enjoy :D

UI mode requires a reboot to take effect in B3. Also that reboot was taking forever, had to hold all the buttons to trigger a reset. I restored some system data though, so that long reboot could have been operator error lol.

The increased performance I notice is due to them renicing systemUI and whatever other processes via an init.d script. Also thats probably the reason systemUI cannot be fully killed to change UI mode to tablet.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
Yeah, this is the same behavior I experienced with the N7 build, had to do the same buttons reset when changing to any UI, to get it to change and boot..

Also, I use speedometer battery icon and when you select it, (seems to happen only in tablet UI) it reverts back to the plain blue icon after about 5-10 seconds . As I said, same exact issues that were in the N7, except at least this installed easily without crashing.

Hopefully, these things get fixed upstream by Carbon. Thanks as always for your work.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's their new renice script. If you remove it from init.d I'm sure those problems would go away. I haven't tried yet, because I do like the extra smoothness.

They just made it too "nice"

With a little tweaking they should have it fixed soon.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reatret:
B3 is amazing! Super smoothness and response. Feels awesome. No FCs at all here. Also, playing a high graphic intense game like The Dark Night Rises seems to have improved as well.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Stevethegreat:
Is it noticeably different/smoother than B2 (on NookHD+)? I ask because I just finished setting up B2 and if I'm to take the plunge I would prefer the differences on B3 to be noticeable (for example I don't use OTG for one)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reatret:
Different no, the only cool new feature is the auto hiding status bar, and id say its much more stable and faster than b2. Super satisfied.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Stevethegreat:
You're right the difference in response time is quite dramatic. It's the first I noticed even though I merely dirty installed the Rom. It's the fist time that I can say that my Nook is almost as swift as prime-name tablets...

Thanks to all those involved (now a better more customizable pie would be the last I'd need and my Nook would be turned to the best tablet I had yet ;) )
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
I love it, seems so much smoother and the improvements are awesome! Overclocked to 1.5GHz, hopefully you can figure out how verygreen did it and go higher. Also finally! zram was enabled, I turned it on and set it to 512mb, now I don't get low ram messages when using apps like teamviewer. I almost returned my Nook HD, glad I didn't. :D

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I want to make sure I'm getting the best out of this rom. I updated by downloading B3, clearing cache and dalvik-cache in cwm, then flashing B3 over B2, did I do anything wrong?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] BigMacca:
B3 is installed and running great on my HD+, fastest and smoothest Rom to date for me.

Amazing work Slothman

:)

One small issue that's been present on the last few builds that seemed to be ok on the initial build - The auto magnectic wake / sleep function seems to ignore the the wake command quite often and it can take a couple of attempts to get the nook to wake up on opening the cover (I've not seen this happen when closing the cover to sleep the nook however)

It might be something to do with the processor scaling down when sleeping...?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] SteveCoops:
If I can find a microsd card the Nook likes at work I'll try B3 asap. The 6/27 build was great but in using my Nook today at work, when I go to unlock it, it unlocks for under a second then it locks again! I have to reboot it to get into it, then it does the same thing once locked for a minute or more.

edit - I do have a case with a magnet lock, but it does the same out of the case too

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Found one :) so far so good. Just installing/updating apps. I did a full wipe and install. Seems quick so far!

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This is really quick!

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Found one small issue - when I download an attachment from an email, I get the little download icon top left but it stays stuck there, flashing away. I can't drag down the top left bar to get rid as it flickers on and off when I try.

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Ah found if I install an app from the play store I can then clear the icon/list once it's finished installing. This flicks through menus and launcher screens as fast as my HTC One now!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] 123421342:
Thank you for the new rom im going to flash it now!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] LucaToo:
CARBONROM vs CM 10.1

Wil ask this in both threads - but is there any particular advantage in Carbon Rom vs CM 10.1..?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
I'm glad you're all enjoying this last build as much as I am.

Re: magnetic lock/unlock- I just recently passed up on buying any case for my HD because they all have that feature. It just doesn't work the same as with stock ROM and I'm definitely not willing to go back lol.

Re: sticky notifications- this hasn't happened to me in tablet UI.

Re: Is this ROM is better then cm10.1?

I'm sure many fans of carbon would say so, but many fans of cyanogenmod would disagree. This is just a matter of preference, try out both and find out what you like. I just happen to keep cm10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus most of the time. You have the ability to flash any ROM you want on your device, so take the time see which one you prefer. There is a certain level of stability you'll get from cm10.1 that you won't get from carbon, more features = more chance for problems. Also, I've only had this nook HD for a few weeks, still working out the kinks ;)

shapeshifter: you can flash updates without doing a factory reset, but if you get any strange bugs out of the ordinary, its always recommended to a nice clean install.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
Many more features on Carbon. Think AOKP + CM. Some people also think Carbon is running smoother, but I haven't been on CM in a while and I'm not on the latest Carbon.

All the additional features is the reason I use Carbon at the moment (HALO, built-in UI modes, Nav Bar ring targets, nav bar widgets, etc....)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
Since the core of both Very's CM 10.1 and Killer's Carbon both use CM 10.1, what makes Carbon smoother? It appears there are more apparent issues with this rom and would probably correlate with all the extra features (which some will like and some not so much).

Has anybody compared the most recent builds on the HD+ in regards to:

1. Overall speed

2. Lag level. Stock 2.1 is pretty bad, CM 10.1 6/08 and earlier also had some issues, but current 6/30 build is improved.

3. Battery life overall and sleep mode: Very CM 10.1 is good and great (for sleep mode bleed) in this regard.

4. Does the magnetic auto display off work? It does on CM 10.1 builds, since use with my Poetic case.

I am wondering how much of the apparent speed improvement is the actual rom verses the update process and clearing cache partitions.

Just asking, since I like trying different roms :)

Also, does updating from Very's CM 10.1 require starting from scratch, or just cleaning the cache partition?

Thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] SteveCoops:
OK, can we just disable the magnetic lock/unlock function then without resorting to cutting the magnet out of the cover? :)

Does anyone change their DPI settings on this device?

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I've changed to tabletUI and still get the same problem - the downloaded attachment just flashes with its name at the bottom right of the screen now. It takes some other notification to get it to stay there in order for me to get rid of it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] lancorp:
I was going to ask that (obvious) question, too. I took the plunge and installed Carbon on a 2nd HD+ that I have. I've been using CM10.1 for almost a month now. First thing I notice with Carbon is that it seems much faster (snappier). Just navigating around the various apps and screens I have is noticeably smoother.

There is something called HALO. Not really sure what it is but it looks like some sort of interface enhancement. I need to read up on it. If anyone has any links on HALO please post.

Overall, I like Carbon better than CM10.1 (right now). I have not tried everything, and I'm sure there are issues I have not found, but so far, almost all my apps work (Redbox would was "incompatible" on CM10.1, but OK on Carbon, for instance).

This is my new interest! :)

Thanks all.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
HALO: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/11/paranoid-androids-halo-multitasking/

This is just an overview. This feature is getting a LOT of attention and works great. Also download this app from the play store to get more functionality out of it: https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5wYXJhbm9pZC5oYWxvIl0.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Phibernaut:
Aside from the obvious storage difference, is there any current/potential future benefit in going with the 32GB model over the 16GB Nook HD+ in running these ROMs? I don't really need the added storage or expense but would go for it if there is reason. Conversely, is there any benefit in the lesser storage version?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] lancorp:
I have a rooCase with magnetic cover and so far, it is working fine with my HD+ and Carbon. I had the occasional issue under CM10.1 with the unlock screen not unlocking, but so far, it's working under this Carbon ROM for me.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
[MENTION=4381325]mikelav456[/MENTION] halo is included in carbon as of a few nights ago

[MENTION=1027206]SteveCoops[/MENTION] is it just attachments from gmail app? Could be a recent derp from Google.

[MENTION=3967313]lancorp[/MENTION] I noticed that in the cm10.1 thread some people had more problems with their magnetic locking cases then others, usually from locking via power button then closing case/opening case or something. I'll assume it's the same on carbon. It's hard to chase bugs that vary from user to user lol. I am glad it's working for some people.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
If updating from Very's CM 10.1 to your rom, can I install over it, or do I need to start from scratch with apps and everything?

Also, does Carbon have the same low battery drain when in sleep mode?

Added: Does Carbon correctly point to the internal storage for sdcard0, like Very's CM 10.1 does? Some apps do not install to internal storage and fail if not. NBA 2013 and Mini Moto Racing are examples.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
I've seen some people have flashed over cm10.1

Probably has the same problem. Not sure though because I've never got the battery that low.

Refer to the message to shapeshifter, you can always flash without a factory reset, but if you run into any additional problems always try a nice clean wipe/install before reporting them :p

And yes storage is recognized correctly.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bpaulien:
I updated from Very green's CM10.1 on emmc and all I did was clear both Caches and install. Although apparently the gapps setup is different between the two because I ended up needing to flash the carbon version of gapps. So save yourself some time and flash both.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dealpapa1:
is your version included all the verygreen changes? Thanks.:good:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
I use his kernel and device trees. Any changes he has made to cm10.1 I don't use.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mikelav456:
I know Halo the feature is, but I didn't know the app is (the one that inserts specific apps into HALO permanently) is... That's what I linked him to. The app is direct from the Paranoid Android team to give the HALO feature more usability.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] SteveCoops:
Actually I've not tried the gmail app - I'm using the normal email app on an Exchange server. Just tried the gmail one and that is fine.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
Sorry, I meant the low battery drain in a good way, since both stock and Very CM 10.1 are great for not draining battery in sleep mode.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] webdroidmt:
The halo apk is already included in B3.

Mike T

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Removed the ANice script in init.d and it made no difference. Mattmanwrx from Team Carbon said he will look into it, as i told him that it also occurs on the Nook HD.

Mike T
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] srgibbs99:
Hidden gem!

I just tried HALO for the first time. That's a slick little feature. The APK really adds a nice touch as well. That's really a hidden gem as I've never seen anything like it outside of custom ROMs. I'm thinking something like that makes it into AOSP at some point?

For those (like me) who had no clue what it was or how to use it, check out these videos, very helpful at explaining the features:

Overview - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vlrgCteDac

App (apk) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AR1AYwCNuw
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
Appreciate your taking time in answering questions!

The one final question (I hope) is trying to understand why Carbon would be faster overall than CM 10.1. If both are using the same kernels, would the only changes then be mainly cosmetic and software related? Seems Carbon would then in theory be slower than CM 10.1, since less features to deal with in CM 10.1.

I am just trying to understand some users saying Carbon is a big difference in comparison to CM 10.1. Seems the cache clearing would be the temporary difference and then a few days later, same performance. I am hoping there IS an improvement, but would like to understand why it would.

Thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] killersloth:
Just picked up an HD+ ;) it's quite hefty compared to the light little HD.

My lady is out exchanging the HD for a new one because the screen flickers and it makes a screaming noise at full brightness. Wiped data and recovered the stock backup I made, it was very simple to go back to stock.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ShapeShifter499:
I was poking around and found cornerstone, another multitasking feature that would need to be complied in. Video of it in action(video is a year old): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-tUeOkboB8 and their webpage with links to their source: http://onskreen.com/cornerstone/ it definitely looks cool, not sure how it would run on the Nooks though. What do you think guys?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] docfreed:
Long Time on Reboot

Just loaded Carbon 7/1 over CM 10.1 on Nook HD+ (wiped both caches and installed gapps for carbon) - very nice and much smoother than CM10.1. Just two minor comments.

On a restart (or reboot) seems to take a long time - much longer than CM10.1 and I always get a message that "Android is Upgrading" - then it starts OK.

Native browser crashes repeatedly - now using Chrome.

Has anyone else reported this behavior
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] srgibbs99:
Sounds like you might need to do a clean install. Appears to be applying the updates on each boot. Strange.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Reatret:
It all comes down to the coding. Carbon most likely has slight difrerences in systemui and other places to make it a little more compatible with other devices. You can have a galaxy s4 with a stock custom

Rom, but if the coding is not optimized for the device, you will see lag.

If I remember correctly cornerstone was dropped due to massive app compatibility problems. It had so many problems that Google requested it to stop in fear that all app reviews would be filled with one stars to fix cornerstone compatibility.