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[Nexus 7 General] electromage:
I've noticed mine getting very slow, particularly when I wake it from sleep. When it starts pulling down notifications, my UI will freeze for several seconds, and it takes a long time to launch apps.

I deleted some stuff and it is a bit faster, but I should be able to use this thing with more than half of the storage used. I tried removing a few recently-added apps and it helped more. Is there a way to semi-reset this to make it faster? I might try another ROM.
[Nexus 7 General] wendellc:
I have one of the earlier 16gb that I purchased for $249. It did slow down a bit when it was low on space. Just cleared it over the weekend and set it up for my 6 year old and no more slow downs.
[Nexus 7 General] rebel1699:
I have had mine for 8 months. The entire time I have had the 32Gb, I have had multirom with at least 2 roms installed, plus the stock. I also have ubuntu desktop for N7 installed. It is just as zippy as the day I got it. Of course, I keep the filesystem clean and all unneeded files deleted. Just like a pc, basic maintenence is needed. I forsee myself using this tablet for quite some time. Even my almost year old 16Gb that I gave to my daughter is doing very well.
[Nexus 7 General] domg73:
I have my N7 16GB since about 10 months... upgraded it to 4.2.2... rooted.. overclocked to 1.6GHz... undervolted... actually I have 162 user apps installed and it's still smooth as a baby skin ;)
[Nexus 7 General] clintkev251:
No issues here really, I'm back on stock, SD card a little more than half full, and it runs as well as new
[Nexus 7 General] Arcifer:
I switched ROM on my device to SmoothROM pretty much the same day I got my device, at release. It's the 16 GB version and it's really fast. Battery lasts for quite a while. For me it takes about 2 weeks to deplete my battery, which is neat if you have your tablet in your bag and then a few days later pick it up, still about 99% battery left.

I've flashed the device about two times because of ROM updates and it has only become faster and faster since i bought it.
[Nexus 7 General] Nate2:
I thought Microsoft Windows was heavily criticized for cluttering the Registry on uninstalls. Linux derivatives (Android?) shouldn't. I use Linux at work, and I don't see this "junk" getting left behind on uninstalls and slowing down my system. Is Android becoming like Windows? :eek:

Can any Linux expert reading this show me an example of Linux systems slowing down because of junk left behind after uninstalls?
[Nexus 7 General] VoiD_Dweller:
Op link is garbage imho.
[Nexus 7 General] lonesaint:
PC linux OS UBUNTU

I can reassure you that linux systems just never slow down.. proud user of 10 months old heavily used ubuntu 12.10.. n beats the **** out of windows on same hardware in terms of speed..:laugh:
[Nexus 7 General] blmvxer:
I have never had an issue with my N7. So I'm not sure what the issues are. I have I've 100 applications installed along with Ubuntu 13.04 and Ubuntu Touch,
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
I think everyone realizes this. However, this should have been taken care of in 4.2.2 when "discard" got added to the mount options. It's not the best method of it, everyone who has a clue on Linux doesn't use "discard' and rather just does fstrim on a schedule since discard has a penalty for almost every delete etc.

None the less, fstrim (lagfix apk) seems to do something, so I use it.
[Nexus 7 General] BlackFire27:
Just started using mine again. It has its flaws. Serious flaws. Shoudnt-have-to-deal-with-flaws-after-paying-250$. But in the end I still love it.
[Nexus 7 General] gsw5700:
I use a init.d script to remove the discard mount option and add commit=20 and also use fstrim. Use SDmaid on a regular basis and greenify. Find a good ROM and kernel and it runs fine
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
Basically do mount -o nodiscard,commit=20 ? I might do that myself, as discard is ugh compared to fstrim on a schedule.
[Nexus 7 General] nigelw:
Mine suffers badly with lag, got my 16GB model 2 weeks after release. It's running entirely stock, updated only when Google pushed 4.2. Frequent lock ups, reboots and apps failing to respond, so I can relate to the article.
[Nexus 7 General] :
I'll agree that android seems to need far too much tweaking to really get things working awesome....if you're just stock everything, yes then....your n7 will not be running optimally....but it takes only a bit of playing around...or simply a good custom rom....and you'll be flying.

Windows is no different. Each new version they put out has higher minimum requirements ...and if you are below them....the new version will run slower than your old version.

But trust me, its all software related....the n7 does not slow down with age....the software is responsible for lag.

;)
[Nexus 7 General] nigelw:
Exactly, this is an Android problem that was introduced in 4.2 and affects both my Nexus 7 and Galaxy Nexus. There are ways to fix it by flashing new roms etc but why should I have to? I've had android since the original G1 and was always prepared to accept the rough around the edges OS since it was growing so fast.

I chose the Nexus devices because I was frustrated by slow updates from HTC and how they quickly abandoned flagship phones.

I recently bought a Nokia 920 for £250 with wireless charger as I was so tired of the laggy android experience.
[Nexus 7 General] :
So by your logic then....no offence intended....if your super expensive gaming computer gets slow cause too much junk is on it, or is left after uninstalls, you just replace it....instead of wiping it and having it zoom again??

Windows is no different than android with this ....can't speak for other o/S's, cause I've never used them. I wipe my laptop about every year to clean it up. My phone about monthly, cause I mess with it so often. And my N7 every few months. That is life when it comes to these devices. If you don't want it happening....never alter it or install anything from day one....and you'll never have to wipe it.

Saying the nexus 7 in paticular is the worst because of this is rediculous, when its any android....or windows PC...doing the same thing. So the article is a joke.
[Nexus 7 General] nigelw:
No, the article is not a joke, a large number of people are experiencing the same issues on stock devices. I fully accept that some maintenance is required to ensure smooth running, but when an OS update so dramatically impacts performance on different hardware platforms, there is a fundamental problem that Google is not addressing.
[Nexus 7 General] aimfull:
I am totally stock on 4.2.2 and don't notice any lag or something like that. I only have the device for a week now, the i/o on the benchmark is pretty low but I saw you could fix that with some kernels.
[Nexus 7 General] chismay:
this thread is so stupid,

" i filled my computer up with sh** now it wont run as well"
[Nexus 7 General] :
I shoulda said just that.....so much typing and still they blame the n7! ;)

And before anyone jumps on the reply button and says they're blaming android, not the n7....read the thread title again. Lol
[Nexus 7 General] veeman:
Also, no problems with my Nexus 7 :D
[Nexus 7 General] s1lenz:
Some people are completely misunderstanding the point of the article.

There's something fundamentally wrong with the nand in the nexus 7, whether its a bug on the controller firmware or the result of cutting corners on the nand. Its REAL. It affects some tablets more then others. benchmarks can confirm that the bug does exist, so it's not fabricated.

some people have been able to fix it by backing up everything, wiping the sd card and then restoring everything again. others have had luck with filling up all of the blocks on the sd card and then doing a full wipe after. the problem exists.

If you want (possible) solutions and further explanation of the bug, please read http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/15...-possibly-due-to-cheap-memory/40#post_2348591 posted by a software architect that's developed for android.
[Nexus 7 General] rakeshishere:
Bought my Nexus 7 10 days ago and I agree with the article linked by the OP. I haven't filled my N7 with crazy $hit or useless apps but this is definitely an issue with 4.2.2 in my opinion. Mine is pure stock (BL locked & rooted) with stock launcher and I'll hand over the device to anyone here and if they still disagree I'll slap him with same tablet. :P

This didnt even take a year for me .... :(
[Nexus 7 General] why always me:
Over 10 months of using my Nexus 7 as my everyday tablet and it still running like a first day i'm buying it.

The guy who wrote that article should try lagfix or forevergone.
[Nexus 7 General] jetfin:
My nexus 7 running even faster than when I got it last year.

Running 4.2.2 (CFX SR12) since it was released and things couldn't be better!

Every once in a while I reboot recovery and wipe cache...

Allot of people just don't know how to administer their devices, just like with Pc's and then try to blame it on the ROM/OS....
[Nexus 7 General] :
Because some people think its like a stereo....it should just always work. But with most OS's, they need to be cleaned up now and then....or eventually they will slow to a crawl. That's just how it is, like it or not. ;)
[Nexus 7 General] phillip1953:
I'm trying to find the SD card. Anyone else find theirs? ;)

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 General] DubleJayJ:
I've had mine for more than a month, and it's been fine. No slow down issue or anything. And yes, I am on 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 General] chismay:
you guys have gone to "google currents" and disabled background updates right?
[Nexus 7 General] gc84245:
Of course every device is different, but I really think that in many cases it is due to what apps/processes you have running.

When I first got my device I immediately downloaded a ton of apps/widgets and created a guest user account, and I did notice a lot of lag. I searched Google to look for a fix, and the two things that people mentioned most often were a) disable Google currents b) disable multi-user.

So I did that, as well as got rid of a lot of my widgets and apps that I didn't really need (especially ones that run in the background) and freed up storage space (managed to get over 3 gb free on an 8 gb device). Ever since then it does not lag 99% of the time. Yes, when it is auto-updating apps from the Play Store, I definitely notice lag. I also occasionally get lag if I have a lot of apps running, but when that happens I just quickly clear away the recent apps and it goes back to being smooth.

The Nexus 7 is a $200 device, I don't think it's realistic to expect to run every app under the sun and not experience slowdowns. For the price I am very happy with it. Is it as smooth as my $500 iPad? No, but then the iPad was over twice the price. I have never used a Nexus 10, but considering that it's $400 I would expect to be much smoother than a $200 device.

Lag problems are certainly not exclusive to Android. I have a 4th generation iPod touch and ever since I updated it to iOS 5 it is sooooo incredibly slow, even right after a factory reset and without installing a single app. I searched the internet for a solution as well, and though troubleshooting an iOS device is difficult at best, I eventually disabled Facetime and iMessage (too bad, because those were two of my favourite features of iOS 5) which may have helped a little, but I still have to constantly close every app in the background just to make it usable. Even still, even with no apps running it is very slow. I wish I could go back to iOS 4, but Apple makes that damn near impossible and even if it were possible none of my apps would work because virtually every app I have requires iOS 5 or above. The funny thing is I have a 2nd generation iPod touch running iOS 4 and it's faster than my 4th generation iPod touch!! A lot faster.
[Nexus 7 General] alicarbovader:
Its good that you've experienced Apples from a tree, but they are fast rotting :laugh:

the OP must realise that N7 is a 1.3 GHz quadcore beast powered by Nvidia... the OP must have been using some helluva overclocked device before, so thinks that N7 is slow. Man! We're getting such huge specs in just 200 bucks, why not stop complaining..? Mostly its the problem on our end, we fail to realise the limits of our devices, and then start whining that their devices are crap. I had this one guy reporting that his nexus 7 is faulty an dis gettng all ghost touches.. I told him it must be some humidity problem (the guy was probably taking steam baths with his N7, watching we-all-know-what :D ) and it turned out that it was realy the humidity prob. He lives in Malaysia, where humidity is rather high...

People should really stop whining. The problem is with us. Mostly, though.
[Nexus 7 General] Nate2:
One good way to appreciate the Nexus 7 is to have owned a generic tablet that has all kinds of problems (and there is no shortage of those cheap tablets, I tell ya). I bet even the CEOs of those companies don't personally use those tablets. Lol!

I haven't owned a better tablet than the N7, but then again, I've only owned 3.
[Nexus 7 General] Bl4ckX:
I cant get what the OPs problem is. I have mine for 7 months now and although my internal storage is full of random stuff I don't have any problems.

I/O speeds were never the N7's trump but mine haven't gotten worse in the past months.

And the Tegra 3... well it's just the worst CPU you can get, but I experience the "Tegra lag" on both my N7 and my One X.

I have mine overclocked to 1.6 GHz and in terms of 3D it even kicks my One Xs but in benchmarks.

In my case I have payed 249€ for the 32GB version and I don't regret it at all and I'm definetly going to buy the next N7 aswell if it has such a good price as the old one.
[Nexus 7 General] alicarbovader:
I haven't owned one lol :D but N7 is a device with a higher standard and above average specs in 200 bucks.
[Nexus 7 General] khaytsus:
Never go full pedantic.

There certainly is a "media storage" generally referred to as "sdcard" on the Nexus 7. And since it is on /data with all "internal storage" (user data), cache, dalvik cache etc, filling the "sdcard" affects everything.
[Nexus 7 General] gc84245:
I found mine by opening a file explorer on my device, it was right there under /sdcard

;)
[Nexus 7 General] neyirK:
I've had mine for about 3-4 months now and have not problems.

I've run CM10.1, PACMAN and Paranoid Roms on it separately and in a multi-boot system and they all run perfectly. Except for the rom crash on PACMAN but that's only happened twice and far apart from each other. I also ran virtual machines from within it running windows and linux (they obviously ran slowly) but didnt really affect the speed of the nexus O.S.
[Nexus 7 General] IRX120:
I rember back in the 4.1 days, with cookies and creme ROM and elite kernel, this thing was fast as hell, now its OK, but has slowed down

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.944 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 General] s1lenz:
It's not. People are getting things confused. There's lag created from lack of maintenance and over-installing of apps that create services that run in the backround, or widgets that slow down the tablet.

Then there's an issue caused by the nand that affects not only the nexus 7, but also the galaxy nexus.

http://forums.appleinsider.com/t/15...-possibly-due-to-cheap-memory/40#post_2348591
[Nexus 7 General] MrPhilo:
Asus has been known for poor memory. Transformer Prime for example. It's i/o is terrible, hence it lags while installing or transferring things. Hopefully Asus doesn't put a crappy memory in the next gen.
[Nexus 7 General] frozst:
Seems that we are talking about different tablets since mine is impossible to use it while installing any app. Even after wiping and testing with fstrim, forever gone, setting the governor to interactive and overclock at 1,6Ghz feels laggy when I have lots of apps installed.

Lots means 120 user apps and only 5 widgets on my launcher, so I don´t know where is the problem. If I have this user experience with a Nexus 7 I don´t want to imagine who are those cheaper tablets...

I remember when I first used my Nexus 7, without installing any extra app (currents, books, music, etc were installed already) I tried to browse and listening to music with Google Music and the sound started to fail! Then I wiped and installed CM 10.1 and much better obviously, but I still think that something is wrong with this tablet. All benchmarks related with IO speeds are terribly low compared with other devices.
[Nexus 7 General] BurnRubber90:
This. With a good ROM/kernel combination, it isn't that bad.. but it isn't as smooth as 4.1.

UI is acceptable, the only moment when i have really bad lag is while installing apps.. but that's "usual" on Asus tablets.. :l
[Nexus 7 General] aimfull:
Since I installed Franco kernel on here the i/o went up massively and don't see any problems. When installing apps I just get a little spike on the finished pop up.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] frozst:
What i/o schedule have you selected?
[Nexus 7 General] aimfull:
I don't know, just all standard settings on Franco kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] xateeq:
Try going back to full stock rom/kernel. And feel the difference. The more u modify the more it gets un stayable.
[Nexus 7 General] eddyedwards007:
I'm a complete noob when it come's to tablets, I've had my Nexus 7 two weeks. I've rooted it but left the bootloader locked. I have just under 15gb of storage, it's completely stock, updated to 4.2.2 as soon as it came out the box and connected to wifi. I personally don't have any issues with lag at all and it seems fast to me. I've froze certain google apps that I don't use with titanium backup pro and also use greenify to hibernate other apps when screen goes off. No complaints about speed from me, this tab rocks! :D
[Nexus 7 General] armada786:
Horse honkey. I have a Galaxy Nexus and its still really fast. The real slowdown on that was caused by having autorotate on. Probably a bug in the sensor code. The only thing that's really slow on these devices is Chrome. And that's because Chrome has been crap for a while now on Android.
[Nexus 7 General] jonny68:
Had my Nexus 7 about 9 months now and for the price it's one of the best things I've ever purchased, I do miss certain aspects of the laptop after I sold it but in general the transition to tablet has been wonderful.

I wouldn't have anything else but AOSP /AOKP on my Nexus either.
[Nexus 7 General] opus_mh:
I have had a 32 gb since launch. I have experienced the low memory lag issues but it's an easy fix. Other hand a few low battery lock downs my machine has ran almost flawless.
[Nexus 7 General] LucMartin:
nexus was flawless and still the best android experience

The Drippler blog highlighted this thread, talking SMACK about the first of its kind google device. I'd suggest before updating ur nexus 7 to 4.2.2, you test drive your device to find it a flawless buttery smooth out of the box experience. I found the presentation, the native os, and the gapps included made for an amazingly fast device. And in the price range, I can bet u won't beat the google nexus 7 (1st gen).

In regards to the massive attention the article about going from "best to worse" came from a prior iPad user which left little options to enhance the intended ui performance and wasn't in an average persons price range at 430$ with just a dual core processor. So if u had the chance to use nexus 7 out of the box, you would remember the new world of android at your fingertips. The specs alone made me happy with my purchase.

The nexus 7 has a large resource on xda and everywhere for modding, roms and more, which can result in hardware problems if you are testing new modifications. subsequently if you are trying to push this speedy 7 inch vibrant and responsive quad core 1.7-1.3 GHz tablet beyond what the android operating system (os) at this time has to offer, like any modification it can be a risk.

The good news, it is an impressively great device, and I personally had to speak up for Nexus 7 as it is cost efficient and out of the box a "wow" and well worth the investment. Give the out of the box nexus 7 (1st gen) a good test drive, with its ota updates off for a few weeks, you will see its power. After updating my gapps and os up from 4.1 to 4.2.2 did I first notice a contrast to its original performance.

The nexus 7 from " best to even better " with the help of xda
[Nexus 7 General] damosuk:
Agreed!. Just sold my nexus 7, lagging/freezing pile of ****!(I hate u tegra!)

Terrible screen and sound as well. iPad mini I bought is brilliant on far older hardware and iOS tablet apps **** all over androids. My nexus 4 chews through android and I love it but looks like android is written so inefficiently it needs at least an s4 pro run proper. Androids openness is wicked but quality of iOS apps make the apple tablet experience so superior to android, it's definitely, android for phones - iOS for tabs!.
[Nexus 7 General] :
Until your phone starts lagging....then toss it too...right?? ;)

Sent from my cell phone telephone.
[Nexus 7 General] chismay:
due to the effects seemingly created as above user stated im gonna go back to my "this thread is full of crap" view. thank you op, with that classic stance as a io'ser and yes i put io'ser that way for a reason, you've now added to the prolific UN-informed knowledge base of just that an io'ser.

if you took a mac, i-book, iphone, ipad and other i-related crap smashed into the faces of the less technologically advanced person such as yourself and loaded it full of sh** to 99.99%.......yes fe***ng duh it will slow down. do you know what makes me laugh at apple devices, and i mean any one of those hyped up pieces of crap ........the screen or back plate is always fu**ed seriously for a company that boast its so called customer support every i-crap i see nowdays has a broken screen and no one wants to go through to bollo** losing route of getting a replacement from apple. i mean lets be honest apple is the only company in the world who is so tight they could swallow a lump of coal and a week later sh** out a diamond . yet every samsung,htc,moto', has a well protected and loved screen. -os'ers over time even seem to hate they're little glorified calculator with a color screen MOST PEOPLE I KNOW WITH I I-PHONE SAY THEY HATE IT AND WANT A SAMSUNG

.........no nfc too LOLZ

---------- Post added at 01:06 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:59 AM ----------

U HAVE UNLEASHED THE DOGS OF WAR

then you might as well sell your nexus that has more processing power, graphical capability and superior sound drivers for that crap little apple phone because you cant/dont want to be able to choose the app right for you.

apple stops 10000's of apps hitting theyre market on theyre so-called anti-flooding policy, yet with android i can have many apps capable of doin the same things in multi instances and different in route, if you need the spoon brought to your face instead of feeding yourself.....then yes go with duh-i-pad

---------- Post added at 01:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:06 AM ----------

just to clarify apple idiots will usually jump on any view giving from a person who was already apple orientated and use it testimonial-ly while android user complaining about apple will usually search out more realistic points before shooting of at the mouth