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[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] hertsjoatmon:
I love CloverPaint. I only put that in the summary bit as everytime I talk about it someone usually responds with how awkward the UI is. I didnt think it took long to get used to though. Once you get used to the system its easy to get what you want out of it. Im just trying to seem as impartial as possible. I dont want to sway people one way or the other, I just want to get as much information together in one place on the available options.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
By your logic, developers should only be making apps for Symbian when iPhone launched, and that shouldn't change. Despite Symbian's popularity 5 years ago, it always have crap apps because the platform just sucks. Does Windows have a high "popularity" potential? YES. ANY PC can upgrade to Windows 8 and many did. Unfortunately the apps platform just does not deliver, not just because of the developers not doing their jobs.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
When I wrote that post, I mainly kept desktop OS'es in mind. Most (if not all) contemporary all-out-of-the-box Linux distributions have even more "popularity potential" than Windows8, if it is determined only by the number of computers you can install them on. Can you install Win8 on a P3 with 128 megs of RAM? An almost default installation of Xubuntu 12.04 works perfectly on one. I've heard from a lot of people that they liked linux but couldn't use it every day because it lacked some piece of software that they needed.

And by my logic, yes, if nobody had thought that iphone would become very popular, NOBODY would write apps for it until it actually became popular enough. But without any apps the iPhone would be much less wanted by people who buy a device because of what it can and not just what it looks like. And with the mobile phone market in general, I'd say that before the iPhone they actually were mainly phones. After that they became fully-functional touchscreen and GSM-enabled computers with a "phone" app. Another factor is that you don't get to choose which OS your phone comes with. You only choose the hardware. It was not symbian that was popular, but Nokia phones. Android became so popular because it was free and open and that meant that the manufacturers didn't need to design their own OS or pay anybody to make a touch phone, which led to android-based phones flooding the market. With desktops, it's different. You can not only choose an OS for your computer, you can change them at will or have several different ones installed at the same time.

--Edit--

I may have misunderstood the part about windows 8. If you're talking about the lack of applications for win8, it sounds strange. All programs that were compatible with previous versions are compatible with this one. But if there are too few which are built specifically for the touch interface, well, maybe too few people need its portable incarnation.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sher The Love:
Does anyone remember seeing the Ativ Q on Samsung's website? I could swear I saw it on there at one point. Strangely, all the other Ativ products they announced at the event are on there. I'm wondering if they're having technical or software issues and putting of production. Or maybe releasing it along side windows 8.1 release and don't want it on there too early.

Also, I've reconsidered getting this device. My note just isn't cutting it for college. I'm running into too many browser issues when trying to do homework online or even reading online based ebooks in between classes. However, it will likely be above what I want to spend and the unnecessary resolution will likely bog down the speed and eat battery.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
We are obviously talking about the lack of finger friendly apps, not full on software with menus smaller than a coffee bean. I don't see how those full on, traditional, productivity software can be easily changed to finger friendly version. e.g. accessing all the full features (not a stupid lite version) of photoshop with finger friendly UI just seems impossible. Document processing without a keyboard and mouse is just cumbersome. Have fun with typing excel equations with half of the screen covered by keyboard with no direct symbol signs.

This is a galaxy note 10.1 forum. If you want to compare both, I assume we are talking about finger friendly apps.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
Ok. First of all, I'm OK with small menus and buttons and stuff on my Note. It has a stylus, remember? And I have a bluetooth keyboard, too. I have absolutely no problems with desktop applications running on a chrooted debian on my GTN8K. That said, let's look at photoshop and document processing.

Photoshop, as its name suggests, is intended to be used primarily for photo editing. This activity needs a lot of accuracy(meaning a mouse or other highly-accurate manipulator) and a lot of screen space (primarily physical size, but also resolution). So a small tablet is just not suitable. Therefore, it is safe to assume that professional user would prefer a desktop computer even if the functionality and usability of the tablet version were the same. Given that, why would Adobe even think of making a professional-grade variant for tablets? Most non-pro users don't need any features other than the ones present in the current version.

And now let's look at the general task of document processing. You don't really need a mouse for this at all, unless you use some kind of WYSIWYG editor and want to edit settings through separate setting windows/tabs or if the editor is designed to be unusable without a mouse. In the latter case, it isn't the editor you are looking for. In the former case, if you are sure that a wysiwyg editor is what you need for processing your documents, touch-friendly setting windows and menus are used on all android devices without any problems. In some cases (e.g. when you write your documents instead of editing other peoples' ones) a powerful exclusively-keyboard-oriented text editor (e.g. vim, emacs, et cetera), a good markup language and a set of frequently-used templates make that work several times more time-efficient than most other sets of tools. A good virtual keyboard is also sometimes useful, if it permits you to rapidly type special characters and frequently-used long character sequences. Speaking of which, I've tried typing some long excel equations with a regular keyboard and a touch keyboard and measuring the time. The difference was about 26%. Not a lot, if you do not use your tablet as your primary document-editing machine.

But yes, the number of productive activities that would benefit from being carried out on tablets (if all appropriate software existed on them) is really small and document processing is not one of them.

Sent from my GT-N8000
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] salmonsushi:
Still hate the oversimplified document processing apps on Android and Windows 8. It feels like a text editor for email and very poor support for equations.

I hate it when I pay 20 dollars for a "professional" document processing app with the highest rating and it crash every 5 minutes just for reading a 3 pages document with some equations. I hate it when the same thing happen on iOS even though it suppose to be more mature.

I have high hopes for Windows 8, and I really hope more full application can be ported to arm structure. But after giving me a blue screen when I try to use handwriting recognition in the lite version of One note at a local electronics store, I am giving up.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
This is the reason I didn't have a tablet for a long time. They seemed to have no software suitable for production at all. Most mobile software is made for some reason in a simplified manner. I spent a whole day searching for a browser with proxy settings. I think that you'll have to spend no less than a week to find one without such settings among desktop browsers. I've also seen a lot of setting simplification in the past years. The setting screens for some apps have shrinked to 1/10th the original size, at the expense of the ability to fine-tune the app to your needs and sometimes even whole useful features. And then this lottery with buying apps that don't have a free version. Capitalism, Ho!

iOS is also the most consumption-oriented of the three major mobile platforms, so the lack of good docprocessing software on it isn't surprising.

With all my dislike of windows, I have to admit that a tablet OS capable of running desktop-oriented software is a good idea. The day when somebody makes an Xorg-compatible-out-of-the-box mobile OS will be a red-letter day for me.

Sent from my GT-N8000
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] siturbo:
This might be the answer http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/19/...utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
What are the issues, exactly? I don't think having a browser run under a tablet-based windows8 instead of android would eliminate them.

Sent from my GT-N8000
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sher The Love:
I couldn't say exactly but I can't do certain course work for school because I get flash errors. I've also ran into issues where another site with school work starts freezing. I've tried multiple browsers and its all the same.

Windows 8 on a tablet is no different than a desktop or laptop.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
Isn't flash deprecated at this moment? And what, exactly, starts freezing on that other site? Java, JS, Flash, silverlight (godforgiveme)?

ARM.

Sent from my GT-N8000
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Sher The Love:
I'm not talking about Windows RT tablets, I'm talking about full blown Windows 8 tablets like this http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-ATIV-...3?ie=UTF8&qid=1377108472&sr=8-3&keywords=500t

One of the ebook websites uses flash for whatever reason and although flash sometimes works on random websites with Dolphin or stock browser, I can never get this website to do anything.

The other problem I'm running into while doing homework on a separate site, the onscreen keyboard stops working randomly (I've only had it happen on this site). The keyboard pops up but nothing registers in the text field when I'm typing. After opening and closing the keyboard it eventually just freezes. I've tried different browsers (Chrome, Chrome Beta, stock Samsung, Dolphin, and Dolphin Beta) with different keyboards (Swiftkey, stock android, and the Samsung). They all start doing the same thing.

I've also ran into issues certain browsers don't let me scroll on separate parts of the browser window ie table of contents in one scrollable section and the actual text in the other.

Anyways, I'm just fed up with it. I'm past the trouble shooting stage and bought the above tablet refurbished for $360. I bought my Note for $310 refurbished, so I'm not talking a big loss.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] flashcactus:
The ebook website flash bug is strange (although I personally tink of reading ebooks online as a perversion).

The onscreen keyboard bug is even more strange, but I've run into a similar thing once. That is caused by a badly-written JS event tied to putting the cursor into the textbox. It removes the cursor for a moment, which is enough for the keyboard to either disappear or freeze. Why'd you try the betas instead of entirely different browsers?

The scrolling issue is not present in all browsers, Firefox, for example, does scroll frames and similar stuff. I have to admit, though, that it is still somewhat inconvenient.

One great feature of the SPen is that it produces a mouseover event if you hover it over the screen. On some sites it is next to impossible to do what you wanted without mousing over, which of course is mostly a problem of the site itself, but you still have to deal with it.

Android certainly needs more usability improvements instead of the bells and whistles that are mostly being added now.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 General] Jasonchewy91:
Looks like we may not even get to see it after all :/

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/23...d-tablet-could-be-called-due-to-patent-issues
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] rayenvs:
I recently bought my s3 new and i'm disappointed in the batterylife.

Yesterday I fully charged my fone before i went to work and put it unused in my pocket and by break time more then 68% of my battery was gone i had only 32% left of battery life.

In total my fone used up to 90% off batterylife without being used. Anyone any ideas???
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] JJEgan:
Millions of battery posts on here read them for fixes .

First is to buy Better Battery Stats and run that for a day looking for wakelocks .

jje
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] cryogent:
See these links can help 1,2,3
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] fotbal5:
You can find an alternative for Better battery stats and look for wakelock.

About the battery, after you found your wakelock and stop't them you will love it.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Glebun:
you mean you CAN?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] nateboi81:
I Had the same issue with mine. Couldn't find anything causing the drain. In the end I got the samsung 3000mah battery and cover. A little bit thicker and heavier but man does the battery last way longer
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] hello5629:
Same here can't find the root of the problem

Got a external charger...
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] np99:
My battery life sucked till I installed boeflla v12.7a beta. I used to run out of battery each day with every other kernel I tried.

I'm now on v12 stable and battery life is still great. I have undervolted cpu and gpu by 0.25v and using pegasusq moderate governor.
[LG Optimus G (International)] scufutz:
I so around here alots of e9xx

Mine is e975 black
[LG Optimus G (International)] kimitza:
We have E970 - AT&T - It has it's own section http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1921 - 16gb storage+microsd slot.

LS970 -Sprint - http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1928 -32gb storage - no microsd slot

E971 - Canada - Rogers Network - 8mpx camera - 32gb storage

E973 - Canada - Bell Network - 13mpx camera - 32gb storage

E975 - International Version -13mpx camera - 32gb storage- Used in Europe and India - don't know about other countries

E975k - I saw it in some countries in Europe - same specs as E975

E975R - Same as K.same specs as E975

E976 - Reported to be used in Mexic - 13mpx camera-32gb storage

E977 - Reported to be used in Brasil-13mpx camera-32gb storage

E987 - Reported to be used in Argentina-13mpx camera-32gb storage

F180K - Korea

F180L - Korea

LG L-01E - For NTT DoComo Japan - 13mpx camera,16gb storage+microsd slot

All roms in Developement and Original Developement area(except those for E971/E973) should work without a problem for these models

E975(k,R),E976,E977,E987.

The only difference is made by the LTE modem.Look at your operator specs to see what band are they using.

It's been reported to work onF180K,L, but with problems,mainly no 3g/wi-fi connection,due to baseband incompatibilities.Solved by flashing again the radio/modem. I think i'll make a thread in the General section:).
[LG Optimus G (International)] 2nd Sky:
The differences between the Models would hopeful (CAM, SD Slot,...)

Can someone make a list as example:

Exxx | 08mpx | SD Slot | ... | [same with Exxx] or [Exxx ROM Compartible]

Exxx | 13mpx | no Slot | ... |

??

and add this on a sticky thread/FAQ or somewhere else

:D :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] alcuin:
Hi,

There was a today plug-in I used to use; I dont remember at all what it was called or where it came from. I suspect it was included in one of the extended Hima roms, so I'm actually downloading as many as I can find and extracting them to see if I can find it! :/ I still haven't found it though. It was just a simple battery bar, with three size options. Didn't show anything like memory free. Thats all I want. Please help me find it! It may have been in a T-Mobile rom, but I'm not sure. Anyone out there using this plug in too? Thanks.

-e
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] elio:
battery watch 1.02 maybe?
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
i was going to unroot my phone which i have followed this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2173931. However, i am stuck with the error 43 which saying that "Your device is S-ON & you are trying to use an RUU that has software number less than your current software number." And now, i am unable to access to the recovery, nor any rom. I think it is because i have relocked my bootloader through all the unrooting process. Any solution for me to reopen my phone or something? really have no idea...
[HTC Butterfly] nicorottye:
I also always get error 43 now i did flash to custom rom

Sent from my HTC Butterfly
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
So, do you know how to solve the question?if I flash a custom rom that is lower than the ruu software number, can it solve the problem. And, can ruu be flashed on butterfly without unrooting it? So that, i can unroot it after I flashed the ruu rom.
[HTC Butterfly] daorderdillon:
We don't know what type of butterfly u have

We don't know your cid

Furthermore I have a Rom that allows u to go completely stock its a HTC Asia tw 1.14.709.1 that can be installed from custom recovery which also installs stock recovery then u can search for updates and update to 1.18.709.3 u don't need ruu
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
My butterfly is x920d. Before I had got to root my phone, my software number was 1.19.707.1.what did you mean of completely stock? Can I get official update if I flash that Rom? And, is it possible to unroot it if I am in this situation?
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
cid: Htc_044
[HTC Butterfly] heobanhki:
no problem.

you're need unlock bootloader and flash custom recovery

with x9204 you're have sd card, copy nandroid backup or cook rom in sd card

you're can restore or flash cook rom
[HTC Butterfly] daorderdillon:
Ur wwe Asia I don't have that Rom

---------- Post added at 01:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2157029

[RUU][X920d] Stock RUU of HTC Butterfly X920d
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
Unfortunately, I have deleted my backup..... So, is there any way I can go back to stock rom or unroot my butterfly??
[HTC Butterfly] heobanhki:
1.Nadroidbackup HTC X920D - 1.19.707.1

2.Stock recovery 1.41
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
Feel sorry to ask you some questions again because I am still new to these kind of stuffs. As for the stock recovery, I did something about recovery which was twrp recovery. According to your guide, does that mean I am required to flash this stock recovery via fast boot, and extract the backup file. Then, flash the boot.img via fast boot. After that, I can pull the plug out, and install the backup zip file. Is it?? Btw, appreciate your help really much.
[HTC Butterfly] Kroutnuk:
No, you install the nandroid backup with TWRP or CWM, the boot.img included in fastboot mode and the original recovery after.
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
riaccess fons

I can't seem to flash the back up rom. It won't be existed on my TWRP recovery. Any idea?
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
But i can't find the back up rom that u gave me on twrp recovery.
[HTC Butterfly] DeLaGarzaRamirez:
I didnt know where else to post..

Hi guys...Im all out of ideas, and I don't know where else to turn. I know I was supposed to look every where, and even ask my mother..but that only would have gotten me chancla slapped. Anyway...Here is the issue: I bought an HTC Butterfly clone. I have looked high and low, for ways to root it, but I cant seem to find something that will even remotely work! The mass storage option is greyed out, so I can't connect it to my pc. I cant boot in bootloader mode, I have tried this since about 5:30 pm today, and Ive yet to see the bootloader mode come up. I have rooted phones before, but this time I am TOTALLY stumped! This cell is a dual sim quad core version. Here are the details (as much as I can give you any way): PLEASE, PLEASE HELP ME ROOT!

MODEL:I900

ANDROID VERSION: 4.1.1

BASEBAND VERSION: MTK6589 (Quad Core)

KERNERL VERSION: 2.6.35.7 kw@chengwh #3

SOFTWARE VERSION: X920e_v1

HARDWARE VERSION: 1.1.0

And, I dont know if this info helps any..but, In the keyboard settings, I see komoxo input method? Geez, at this point anything may be it!

Thank you so much for your help, and once again, I apologize for posting on this thread, but I did not find where else to post..:(
[HTC Butterfly] heobanhki:
LOL, i don't think in mexico have china phone (face). We're hate it.

You need sent it to recycle bin and by new
[HTC Butterfly] DeLaGarzaRamirez:
I dont understand?
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
Your Nadroidbackup HTC X920D - 1.19.707.1 can't be seen in TWRP recovery because it is not zip file. Even though i converted it to zip file, it was still error. Any solution?
[HTC Butterfly] heobanhki:
You're need use CMW recovery for restore
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
Is there any Nadroidbackup available to update for twrp? I tried to install cwm, but i got what were all error in mounting my data, cache and everything.
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
Hello, i have successfully restored the backup rom u had posted. Now, what steps should i do to make my phone to be available for official update? I heard that u had to relock and install the sotck recovery. Can you guide me specifically?
[HTC Butterfly] daorderdillon:
Everyone is fighting for this update if you are not s off stop trying someone bas already bricked their phone jus wait for the ota
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
But, I donoe if i could to get the official update if my phone is unlocked? Now, i am back to the original rom, and installed stock recovery. Do i have to lock my phone as well? and how?
[HTC Butterfly] bluheart:
Use revone 0.21 and get a SOFF, then you can install the latest sense 5

OR

Wait till 21/July to get OTA to other parts of Asia
[HTC Butterfly] zyxelseries:
After i had restored the backup, i noticed that there were some apps missing on my htc butterfly like calculator,7digital, flash light, and so on. I did install stock recovery, as well as relocking my phone. I wanna ask if the ota will still work without the existance of these apps? Coz i found somewhere about you wouldn't be able to update smoothly without these apps. Any idea?
[HTC Butterfly] bluheart:
OTA will work even if data is deleted. Try n see.

It won't work on custom recovery or firmware.
[HTC Butterfly] daorderdillon:
I don't think so
[HTC Butterfly] heobanhki:
Unfortunately, a few app is not in ship rom 1.19 (flashlight, ... I do not remember :D).

this does not affect the ota update

---------- Post added at 07:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:27 PM ----------

OTA work only with stock recovery and bootloader locked (or relocked)

data in youre phone will be delete after update (or not, maybe) but it not to the necessary and You're do not need to wipe (delete) data in the phone before the update ota
[HTC Butterfly] therazrguy:
Do you have a positive resource in support of your quote?
[HTC Butterfly] daorderdillon:
It does causes a problem if a stock app is missing and if Ur s off u don't need to relock bootloader to install ota
[HTC Butterfly] gbear:
That is simply because you used the HTC bootloader unlock, which after unlock, it will remove some of the apps, I believe it is to protect it from being misused/copied.

A twrp copy usually doesn't have those apps, because you need to unlock the boatloader in order to install twrp recovery. And when you tried to backup your rom using twrp, those apps are already gone.

Relock the bootloader won't give you back those apps, the only way is to reinstall the ruu from HTC.

Missing those apps is ok for OTA, OTA only will looks into what inventory (apps) that you have, check the integrity of your existing rom, and upgrade it. If you don't have those, it won't able to install/upgrade over it.
[HTC Butterfly] bluheart:
Agreed with gbear