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[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Roland sorry I am not a developer, just a user so I am not testing nor approaching this scientifically but providing my limited experience with this ROM. I flashed dirty over Oats previous version. I don't really use this to play music so just tried a few installed apps that I had that might have music. It was my first time using any if these apps. I use I heart radio to listen to sports talk radio.

Sorry if did not provide more useful info.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Just testing

Hey, don't misunderstand me, I appreciate having your help with testing but I am just confused about your results.

For instance it helps if we test the same apps. If you test Google Play and I test Apollo we might get different results, due to the app.

You mention you had errors with Apollo but didn't say what kind, that might be the problem i'm talking about.

First we must confirm there is a problem, then we can look for solutions or even a workaround. Maybe using the Google music app works and the Apollo doesn't, that could be a workaround. I am also not a developer but I might have a little more experience testing tech. I'm beta testing some DosBox Turbo builds right now, 3dfx glide is working on Android!

Since we both flashed over other Roms that might have an effect on the results. I remember talking about this in Shumash's thread not that long ago. Keep up the good work but elaborate more whenever you experience a problem.:good:

3dfx Glide support for android gaming video
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
LnTTP_CM10.1 Updated

The new build is up on the OP and now has the privacy guard as a standard feature. See a previous posting by me about how to use if you don't know how.

Re: some problems others are seeing. PIE works for me as well as wi-fi and sound (I've been out of town for a few days, but Tuesday night I left Apollo playing when I went to bed and set my alarm for 1 hour. When I was awoken, still playing). For the battery, I typically get 6 to 8 hours of flip boarding, browsing, movie viewing, music, and light gaming. What more do I want (I do have to say my TP is only ever been in one of 3 states: in use, charging, or off)?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Do you think you could explain what you mean by fiddling? I normally fiddle on a violin.:laugh: Seriously, Nomad asked too about what you did with the WiFi to get the battery drain down. You did not explain. thanks
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
How do I disable led home button while charging (it stays on constantly while docked on the touchstone). Thanks for this great ROM.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
I think I will just stop posting here for a while. O.a.T posted a new build so none of that is relevant now.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Hey Roland,

All we want to do is learn from what you try out. Every little bit helps. I know it gets frustrating, but you are good at this, so just stay the course. You know I am gonna pick on you unmercifully, cause I like you.:) Thanks
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Is this a problem or personal preference? Just curious.
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
Well it lights up my room at night and hasn't been present on any other build I have tried. I haven't had too much time to troubleshoot as I just flashed this last night and noticed it was there. Do notifications still blink? It's constantly on even off the stone.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
Crickets?
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Crickets? At least there's no earwigs! Besides, its summertime!!!

I finally got around to upgrading from O.a.T.'s CM10 version. I was a bit reluctant to do so as it worked so well but I figured if its good enough for O.a.T it damn well should please me. It did not disappoint. I did a dirty flash from his March 17 version of CM10. I do have MoBoot v0.3.8 installed as I was checking out other CM10 ROMs a while back.

Everything is running great. HBO GO is smooth and my Slingplayer software runs great. I'm especially grateful that O.a.T included the multiple user feature of CM10.1 as I will be upgrading my daughter's TouchPad and she has a couple of foster kids she wants to share it with. I was afraid the process of lightening the ROM would have dropped that.

I too use aCalendar so dropping the calendar app was no big whup. I have always used the stock browser and so I checked out the Next Browser. Didn't like it. Don't know why. May be because I've run Firefox before and I'm just a bit more used to that.

Great work O.a.T!!! I thank you once again for keeping my TouchPad a device that I am proud to show off to friends and strangers alike. They are always amazed for what I got for $150.

The bluetooth is a bit of disappointment. I've got a pair of bluetooth speakers I'd like to use with this. Never have bothered to get them paired tho as the internal speakers are great.
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
Thanks. Do you know how to turn off the home button led? It is constantly on. It's probably in the settings but I can't figure it out or it's broke in this ROM. Does yours stay on all the time?

And OaT, everything is working stupendously for me (don't use bluetooth so much so not an issue). Even the sirius app works which does not with the 10.1 nightlies I have tried. Nice work and much appreciated!

Stay thirsty, my friends
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Hmmm. It was flashing but that's because I had notifications pending. Once I cleared them it now stays on all the time. I do have "Avast" anti virus so I have an ongoing notification but I doubt that's why. I don't know where I'd look in the settings.

Now I see that its on continuously when the screen is on but flashes when the screen turns off (and I'm not charging).

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Found it. Uncheck the "screen off animation" in Settings>Display

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I just stumbled across the "Daydream" item in display. Never heard about it so I looked it up. Looks to be like WebOS' exhibition mode (screensaver). True?

I tried to enable it but its not working. I've got a feeling its because O.a.T has not included live wallpaper support. I'm thinking a new method of adding that is required that is different than CM10.

Any availability on that?

EDIT: Looks like I figured it out all on my lonesome. And they said I couldn't be taught! I copied livewallpaperpicker.apk from CM 10.1 into system/app and fixed permissions. That enabled live wallpapers in the system settings. Daydream didn't seem to work still so I went back and did the same thing with anything with "livewallpaper" in it (which probably wasn't necessary) along with "basicdream.apk" and then fixed permissions. Now it works... kinda. BeautifulWidgets works great as does Clock but my Season Zen HD display is chopped up and jumpy. Probably others work.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Hey OaT, I just finished reading the OP before posting this question. I have not followed your LnT Roms in the past as I thought you had dropped out of developing on the TouchPad. You are calling this a "light and tweaked" version of CM10.1 and you mention leaving the stock browser and the calendar apps out of it. You do not mention anything else about what you have done. If it's not too much trouble to list what else you have done, it would be appreciated. Same question goes for the light and tweaked Gapps.

Something I don't get is this Rom and it's accompanying Gapps seems to be an attempt to avoid using ACME3 which does expand the /system partition. You must be aware that CWM5 caused corruption in the /system partition and besides your Rom, other Jelly Bean Roms and the standard Gapps needs the additional space. But another benefit of ACME3 is the best way to upgrade the first time is backup, uninstall Android and then reinstall the CM you were using with ACME3 and then restore the backup. Besides expanding the /system partition, the corruption in that partition is removed and as long as one uses the latest version of CWM or a newer version of TWRP, no more corruption is introduced. So in the long run, the user benefits from no more /system corruption and a properly sized /system in case they decide to switch to a different Rom.

Thanks for doing what you do. Between yourself and the others who are putting in countless hours on CM10.1 for the TouchPad, we may never have an official nightly or stable release, but it won't be far from being just as good a the Roms that get all the love from the CM developers.
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
Nice stuff, I like your participation here. Thank you. Although the led turns off now, it still remains lit when docked. I mean it's an led, but aesthetically annoying. The benefits of the functionality in this build far outweigh my minor irritation. Great find on the wallpaper etc.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Wut he said.

I have always wanted a "screen saver" so I can use (or my phone) on my nightstand. We're getting closer. I'd need a live wallpaper with the ability to have time and weather as a minimum. Would be nice to have radar, maybe google now as options.

Someday... (or maybe there's something out there). I did find an app called "Live Wallpaper Daydream" which grabs the current wallpaper and uses it in Daydream. Its nice too.
[TouchPad Development] Stryeguy:
daydream

install StumbleUpon; it works well with Daydream :)

Thanks, OAT - thanks for sticking it out with the touchpad - we appreciate the hard work. Is anyone else having random freezing issues? I've had 2 lock ups with Netflix, and a few more with Aralon (RPG). I wiped /system before updating from the previous build, and lowered the max CPU to try rectifying the issue, with no avail. It doesn't happen all the time, so I can live with it if need be.

:cheers:
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
My goal of LnT never has been and never will be to

avoid

ACME3. What would be the sense in that? If one needs ACME3, by all means one should use it as it is certainly easy enough to employ.

Rather, the goal of LnT has always been to remove, from my perspective and I'll be blunt here, all the bloat/crap ware found in CM. In my view, be it Google, Samsung, CM, etc., there is a level of junk I have no use for. Additionally, be it again Google, Samsung, CM, etc., there are IMO some better capabilities than provided by those systems, e.g., the launcher, the browser, and the calendar apps. Of course, these appraisals are all rather personal, but by providing a really bare bones android capability that makes the system, could we say, light and tasty? Then as a result of the LnT process, I don't need ACME3. That's a fallout, not an intent.

I am certainly aware of the partition corruption issues that came to light some time ago, and I hope others are as well and address that if they are faced with the problem. My method with dealing with it then was a bit unorthodox and technical but seems to have worked; at least I don't see any problems associated with that.

Finally, in terms of other ROMs needing the expanded partition, I've never advocated not using ACME3, I only state that for LnT/LnTGapps it is unnecessary. By all means, users should try other ROMs and decide which is best for them. Again your word 'avoid' makes it sound a priority for me, which I hope the true priority is now clear. Should a new bare bones version of Android come out that really does require a system partition expansion, I'll be right in line to use ACME3. But as far as I know right now it is not JB4.3 and probably not even KL5.X. And beyond KL it probably will be time to replace our dear old TP's.

P.S. For those looking for a camera that works, MX Camera seems to do the trick, albeit the images are rotated per usual.

P.P.S. Regarding the notification light indicator, the TenderloinParts system apk (see attached) may have the desired features if someone wants to give it a try and report back.
[TouchPad Development] swear0730:
Thanks O.a.T. For those of us who have been following your ROMs long enough what you say is obvious and consistent. I use your ROMs specifically because of the lack of what you consider bloat. Its your ROM made for you and shared with us.

Me? I like live wallpapers. Therefore, I ask or try to figure out how to add them in. Much easier than having features I don't want and trying to remove them.

As always thanks for your explanation and all your hard work. Without regard to how the OS evolves the TouchPad will always have a place in my heart and hopefully in my home and you are a large reason for that.

Now everybody get outside and in the pool. It's summertime!

EDIT: For the record, Camera Zoom FX works too. It also has the rotated image problem.
[TouchPad Development] DroidDw:
I apologize if this has been addressed before, but I cannot seem to locate. When I was running classic nerd there was a feature that would scale non native tablet apps to fit the screen correctly. Is there something built in or is there a way to add this to LnT? Thanks in advance for the help!
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
First off, for the record, I fully support any developer's right to build their Rom any way they like and no one has the right to suggest otherwise. I used "avoid" for lack of a better word to characterize your desire to be able to install your Rom without having to expand the /system with ACME3. Like I pointed out my my first post, at this point in time, it would probably be a good thing for everyone to go through the process of backing up, uninstalling, reinstalling with ACME3 and then restoring the backup. I've been in the discussion from the beginning when it was discovered that CWM5 and older versions of TWRP were causing corrupting in the /system partition. What a lot of folks don't realize is that it is not really advisable for one to try to run ACME3 without first running ACMEUninstaller. This is how the corruption issue was discovered when folks trying to expand the /system partition with ACME3 without uninstalling first and they ran in to ACME3 finding thousands upon thousands of inode errors. Some got lucky and the install finished after 15 to 20 very scary minutes. Most attempts ended up with a failed install, Android would not boot and a full uninstall/reinstall was required. Another thought that has been discussed, is what affect the corruption in the /system partition has on the operation of the OS and Android apps. No one knows for sure as to test this out would be way beyond the scope or resources that any of us has. But the fact that the corruption does exist kind of leads to the conclusion that getting rid of it is better than continuing to let it reside in one's /system partition.

Sorry if my use of "avoid" was a bad choice of words. In no way was I trying to impune your efforts. Thanks for what you do.
[TouchPad Development] 3matthew3:
I flashed this the other night... Really nice ROM. Only issue is a lot of apps are not compatible via the play store. Any quick and easy way to correct?

Thanks. On vacation now, and wanted to use Yelp, but couldn't install.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
First question that comes to my mind, is what apps are you finding incompatible?

I wonder if any of the LnT changes might have something to do with this?
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Just installed and used Yelp with no problems.

I wonder how 3matthew3 installed, or what changes he might have made, or maybe the 50 app limit. With almost 500 downloads of the latest LnT there would be a lot of complaints about not being able to install apps, don't you think?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
No, I really don't. There could be lots of causes, I was just surmising one. If you think it might be something he did, why don't you ask him? Don't think it would be the 50 app limit, that unmounts the SD card and he is not complaining of that. Sometimes apps not wanting to install is caused by internal memory(the /data partition) running out of space. That can be resolved with J.C. Sullins memory fix. If there was an issue with the Gapps.zip, that might cause a incompatibility with the Play Store. Maybe when he replies to my post to him, we will know more.

BTW, you never did address my question about what other modifications you made to your Rom and Gapps to make them light and tweaked.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Well, since I installed and used the app he couldn't, what do you surmise from that?

You've stated you never followed my ROM in the past. Have you used it lately? Why all the interest now? BTW, no answer is an answer, at least here on XDA and RootzWiki.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I surmise that you don't have the same problem that he has that is causing his problem.

Did someone pee in your Wheaties? I explained early on that I thought you had moved on to other Roms, as to why I had not been following your your earlier Roms. I did not say I had never followed them. You seem to be going out of your way to be rude because I am showing interest in your latest Rom. I think I have gone out of my way to give you due credit for your work and to do it any way you see fit. I have offered a couple of suggestions or comments, none of which have been to criticize your work and in the case of the "avoid" word, I went to great lengths to defuse any hard feelings it may have caused. The guy that started this whole thing who never has replied back to either of our posts seems to have vaporized, so why don't we just drop this and get back to the business of testing YOUR Rom?
[TouchPad Development] phillytemptation:
so it seems like folks are having issues with sound cutting off when the screen display goes off, but I can't seem to get sound to work at all. I tried the bluetooth toggle thing, but that doesn't do anything for me. thoughts?

just kidding. i forgot that i had one of those mini styluses that plugs into the headphone jack...
[TouchPad Development] mattyguk:
Well so far im loving the rom. I have it as my daily and and as of yesturday the other and her mother both have it loaded on theirs too.

Thanks so much for keeping this long toothed device current.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
You don't surmise too deeply, at times, do you? :)

Someone pee'd in my Wheaties? Nope. Maybe this is just what grumpy ol' men do. Or maybe you're the sensitive type when the tables are reversed? Or maybe... 'You know I am gonna pick on you unmercifully, cause I like you'.

My business isn't testing my ROM. If that's your business, carry on with that version of fiddling.
[TouchPad Development] detdett:
har har har.. wow, you almost got me. amazing!
[TouchPad Development] matteebee:
Hey Oat, loving this more each day. My TouchPad seems very happy with your slim delicious ROM. I know a lot of folks are into complaining but I find you can catch more flies with honey. Fabulous job.

Stay thirsty, my friends
[TouchPad Development] FastEddie422:
Is there any way to get the wifi option back from 4.1 to turn wifi off after 15 minutes of inactivity?

I hate how my options are basically to have wifi on constantly or to have it shut off immediately when the screen goes off.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Did you uncheck "WiFi Optimization"?
[TouchPad Development] skanndelus:
Loving this. Has anyone else had issues installing the Google Keyboard from the play store?
[TouchPad Development] detdett:
yes
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Seemed to have lost my Gapps (couldn't access Play Store or gmail) so I refreshed latest Gapps and latest version of ROM and things are working even better than before. Great job OaT as usual!
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Are you having any problems with some of your favorite apps not wanting to download from the Play Store? When I try to download white pages, speed test.net[/url],GasBuddy, and WeatherBug I get not compatible with this device from Play Store. I ended up using App Extractor on my other Touchpad, and uploaded the APK's to Dropbox, then downloaded and sideloaded them on my Touchpad with this Rom running. I have never had this in compatibility issue with Play Store before.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Just tried installing gas buddy with no problem.
[TouchPad Development] Skripka:
Great to see ya back Oat! :)

I'm seeing it too. I see this error lots on my Note2 when using a non native or non standard DPI. Standard procedure is to reboot in a standard dpi, force stop and whipe Play Store data, reboot and reopen Play... Reinstall apps, then restore your dpi.

Except I'm stuck on where and how to change dpi.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
LnT Updated

Sync'd with CM10.1 (lots of changes; maybe most notable is new UI for Privacy Guard) and reverted notification light commit. Also, this is using the 'old' pre-built wi-fi drivers as I read some were having problems with the new in-built ones.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
I remember that now :laugh:! One way is to edit the build.prop file in /system. Look for the line "ro.sf.lcd_density=160". I think there may be an app that does that kind of thing too.
[TouchPad Development] Skripka:
I was hoping I was just stupid and didn't see a menu item. :)
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Let me know what you see in your build.prop file for that line.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
I wasn't even able to get to the Play Store, let alone downloading an app. Which was odd, since I had been accessing the Play Store and downloading the occasional app (I don't download many, trying to keep well under the app limit, and besides I don't play games and mostly use the TP for browsing, email, and XDA). Also, the installed apps had been successfully updating... which leads me to think my prob was the result of my browser (Go Next browser) updating and having an issue. I also wasn't able to access Gmail. I would click on the Play Store icon, or Gmail icon, it would appear to flash for a nano second, and nothing would happen.

So... I downloaded the latest ROM (6/27) and latest GAPPS from the OP, I cleared cache and dalvic, and reflashed both. Weirdly enough... the Gmail setup process was required, but everything else seemed to be all set up (email, browser bookmarks). And everything seems to work a bit faster and better now.

I will try to download an app from the Play Store tomorrow and try to use some of the apps (like Box, netflix, Weatherbug (I don't have others mentioned like Gas Buddy).

btw, those also using Go Next... did anything weird happen recently, other than the icon change (funny wording from the dev team on why the change)? Still like how fast it works.

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Hi OaT, is this a newer version than the one I just flashed this AM (6/27)?
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Yup, brand new as of about one hour ago.
[TouchPad Development] Skripka:
Stock value is 160 in LnT... Trying others now. Tries 240 and 213 stockish values and nada.
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
OK, thanks. Is it OK to simply dirty flash over 6/27?
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
Just dirty flash rom and gapps and you should be good to go. I use TWRP which lets you stack up to 10 zips to flash sequentially.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I am NOT using a non-standard DPI. I am using it like OaT set it to, which is 160. But I will try resetting Play Store's cache and data and rebooting and see if it works for something else thanks.

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There is definitely problems with the new ones, the old ones work great, thanks. After a couple days now, I'm seeing pretty decent battery drain while the touchpad is asleep.
[TouchPad Development] Skripka:
160 is a non standard dpi according to play. Because that is the problem that generates this error typically, Plays deluded understanding of what dpi should be. OaT or any other dev could make the dpi 666.973,but that is nonstandard insofar as Play is concerned.

The Nexus7 for example is 213 iirc.

That being said I haven't succeeded altering to another dpi to get Play off its deluded high horse as to what is compatible.
[TouchPad Development] O.a.T.:
You need to reboot after editing so the changes will stick.