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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
I LOL at your comment ya troll....U MAD? Also..I have nothing to regain since nothing has been lost :cowboy::cyclops::victory:
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
Why Do People Enjoy Being Internet Trolls?

Is it is a kind of power rush or ego trip to be a troll. Being online is a place that is largely free of perceived consequences... an insecure person can get a sense of power online, without ever having to face someone directly.
[Off-topic] hanisod:
This post is nominated for "most senseful comment" on this thread...

But seriously

I make jokes sometimes

Just for fun

Have a laugh with people (even if I don't know)

Yes sometimes I might go far

But never mean to hurt anyone's feelings......

Just saying :p

must put some rules for the trolls so they can follow

If not possible.....

We should end this phenomenon......
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
Brony Talkin..........

Genious! :silly::silly::silly:

btw i agree with ya !
[Off-topic] veeman:
It's for teh lulz.
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
They see me trollin...

They hatin....

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[Off-topic] veeman:
Son just got trounced. :eek:
[Off-topic] dexter93:
OP is blue. Also too long
[Off-topic] jRi0T68:
You meated him? Ewww.

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Same reason I refrained meself from replying...he seems to have "issues":eek::eek:

Also... [MENTION=2978831]ronnie498[/MENTION] ...please express your thoughts about trolling as you seem like an educated member of society ;):highfive:
[Off-topic] veeman:
You should steak a claim of that land before death notice meats that too.
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
I will from time to time and will check the responses to my question and will expand on it as needed.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
I don't have issues, I'm just misunderstood like the poor internet trolls who you people keep bullying!

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[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
We need to crown a new troll king.

Any nominations?

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[Off-topic] hanisod:
Oh

Me me

Pick me :p
[Off-topic] Ichigo:
diestarbucks is more of a troll than M_T_M lately. :eek:
[Off-topic] veeman:
If there was a troll king, wouldn't troll people troll the actual troll king and elect the worst troll.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
That's deep...:cool:

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[Off-topic] Seraz007:
AIIIIEEE CARAMBA!! :eek:
[Off-topic] veeman:
Bad troll is bad. Looks like we have a new king, guys. :D
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
who might that be?> ? :confused:
[Off-topic] a.cid:
That's so deep, even Adele would roll in it.
[Off-topic] mikef:
OK, on the more serious side, I am a little disappointed to read some of the responses here, although not terribly surprised. :(

It does seem sometimes that responses can very quickly go from douchy to mean to downright cruel. Why is this happening?

Is it the anonymity factor? Unfortunately being anonymous seems to really bring out the worst in people sometimes where they type things they would never say to someone's face.

Is it the speed at which people are able to respond? The Internet does have a "feature" of enabling people to be total jerks at the speed of light, seemingly outpacing their ability to rationally think about what they are saying.

Is it that people think they can go back and edit whatever it was away? The Internet has another feature, many thousands of people can be watching and their reply button is much quicker than the edit and submit buttons and this stuff can live forever. You may not be thinking about job interview, but when they search you out you don't want to have to explain that it was all 'just a joke'. :eek:

Is it that people are alone at the computer, or worse, in their own little world on the phone? :rolleyes: Being alone might feed into the anonymity factor. Before clicking submit, read what you about to submit out loud and see if there is a sharply drawn breath from someone close by.

Is it the more prevalent use of mobile devices? That can make it harder to get the full context of the conversation, making it easier to miss vital clues that indicate someone trying to be funny or snarky. That also makes it more likely that a response might be escalated or misdirected, as well as (too) fast as people have their mobiles at hand now constantly.

Maybe it is somewhat of all of these. I don't know if it is possible to fix it, but I think slowing down just a bit and taking the time to understand would help a lot.

Read twice, post once. Don't be cruel or mean or even douchey when you reply to people here or in real life.

There is absolutely no need for it,

it is not as funny as you think it is,

life is too short, and I promise,

that kind of stuff does come back around.

Please remember this as well, the more you help people here and throughout your life, it will only benefit you, directly and indirectly.

There is an absolute need for it,

it is more appreciated than you think it is,

Life is too short to miss out,

the good stuff does come back around too.

Thank you,

mikef
[Off-topic] mikef:
Thanks for proving each of my points "at the speed of light."

How about this: I will forget it, and you'll forget it, but I'm gonna remember it, and don't you forget it. :rolleyes:

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator
[Off-topic] veeman:
tl;dr :cyclops:
[Off-topic] mikef:
Would you prefer to be banned for 3 days or a 5 point infraction? Think quickly, ok? :fingers-crossed:

Thank you,

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator
[Off-topic] veeman:
ts;dr :D :D :D

Speaking of trolls, this guy has some really clever responses. :D

RBX from Yahoo Answers
[Off-topic] mikef:
No Rohin, I am not sure you do understand it, or M_T_M's original post. Most of the replies seem to have completely missed the serious points in there and were not proper. This is a troll thread because you guys have made it into a troll thread.

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator

Psych!
[Off-topic] veeman:
I would like to be banned for

3.1415926535 days
[Off-topic] Seraz007:
:eek:

second post says "No trolling unless down with quality" :rolleyes:

not patient enuf to read the first xD :D:D

JK ;):p
[Off-topic] mikef:
Done.

:rolleyes:
[Off-topic] a.cid:
To be frank, it seems like even I missed the point.

Atleast for me, trolling is based on how to make light of the

situation

, rather than make fun of the

people in the situation

. That's my personal dividing line between "trolling" and outright sarcastically veiled insults.

I troll in real life too. Joking around with friends, parents, even my teachers. But then again, I still make sure people understand and are appreciative of my intentions. I don't want to belittle someone, but I do want bring a smile on someone's face. Whether online or offline, my intentions remain the same.

Just my single cent on the issue :)
[Off-topic] mikef:
It is a good way not to personalize the comments and avoid escalating it.
[Off-topic] a.cid:
How would you personally define trolling?

(Not asking for the Urban Dictionary version. More of your own personal opinion/take)
[Off-topic] mikef:
I think that covers it. It is okay to (try to) be funny but without crossing the line where it has no purpose than to incite an escalated reaction. That needs to be toned back.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
Guys this is the internet

As many as there are assholes in real life so is more a further exponential population of them that exists on the Internet.

We can choose to ignore/control/minimize/burn them but that won't eradicate the amount fo sho.

Since XDA is part of the internet these realities exist.

To what extent (in xda terms) does trolling constitute harm?

What is insulting for me may not be for you, do we have to respond at the slightest scratch of butthurt for every tiny jokes made in OT?

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[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Trolling kills more boredom than explosives and alcohol combined (note: that's a very flammable combination).

Don't kill boredom.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Doooooooooo eeeeeeeeet!!!! 111!!:cool:

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[Off-topic] veeman:
:eek::eek::eek:

Oh noes!

*runs*
[Off-topic] mikef:
I thought about it and figured it was more effective to punish him by leaving him here, in the asylum. :victory:
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
You make an excellent point mate;)

Also. ... thanks for your insight on trolling. ...Most everybody have missed the point of this here thread :(

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[Off-topic] ronnie498:
Everyone is wishing him happy birthday that could be your gift to him :silly:
[Off-topic] mikef:
The point is that the level has increased enough to be noticeable. It seems that the tone of retaliation for (mis)perceived (insults)comments gets nasty very quickly sometimes. An effort to dial it back would be appreciated. An effort to restrain from piling on and simply clicking the report button, or if it has been reported, ignoring it if there is nothing further to positively contribute, would be appreciated. Not just here in OT, in other forums, I have been seeing a fair amount of minor trolling that gets escalated by piling on and trying to top the prior trolling efforts.

We want it to be fun here too. Sometimes it goes over the top and isn't so much fun.

Thank you,

mikef
[Off-topic] hanisod:
I agree with this ^^^^^

I see that the amount of fights are increasing lately (as I can see on my device's forum)

People say dumb things

Insults

That eventually turn into a fight....

And the mods have to work it out :eek:

It's a pain isn't it?
[Off-topic] veeman:
What's the minimum amount you can ban someone for?
[Off-topic] :
Well, I asked MTM for a 5 minute ban once and he gave me 2 years so I assume that's the minimum :cyclops:

Jk it was 20 minutes :silly:

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[Off-topic] Seraz007:
as u said it yourself, pie seconds :eek::cyclops::cyclops::D
[Off-topic] Babydollll:
Where, oh where is that thanks button?

:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Off-topic] :
...You ASKED to be banned?!

WTF? :confused:
[Off-topic] hanisod:
For Studying

Lolololol

I need a 30 minutes ban

Want a break of xda :eek:
[Off-topic] :
And you can't simply DECIDE not to go on?

C'mon, surely you have more will power than that! :p
[Off-topic] hanisod:
Trust me

I don't :(

Need a break NAO!
[Off-topic] :
Well then I'm saying this in the kindest of ways:

GTFO!
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
Thanks for clearing my thoughts mike.

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Today I've seen ever more examples of abusive trolling. Why the need to insult people in order to have fun, me wonders? perhaps lack of attention at home of issues during childhood, perhaps? :confused:
[Off-topic] veeman:
When is insulting people not fun? :confused: :confused:
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
There are several possible factors those and a few others.
[Off-topic] mikef:
Could have something to do with it, plus I think it is a big game and they don't understand the consequences later in life.

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs. — John Rogers
[Off-topic] veeman:
But YOLO! :(
[Off-topic] mikef:
Even more reason not to muck it up.

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator

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[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
Most likely psychological factors,

the thing is internet can make you feel like this:

but in reality you are this:

the oppresion society and reality has brought into some people have mimicked the way others treat them in real life in a more favorable environment and authority/rank (ex. mod in a forum, GM in a MMORPG, highest scorer in a game in facebook, reaching over 9000 in power ups).

Internet is evil and so are toasters.

That's why i kill frogs.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
ikr.

I'm confused as to the kind of trolling you're all discussing here. Seems to be more about the offensive trolling or rather flaming than the lullz trolling.
[Off-topic] mikef:
If the trolling stayed at the lullz level it would be fine. It appears that it has not been remaining at that level however, but has been escalating.

Thank you,

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator
[Off-topic] :
Basically,

1. Noob posts dumb stuff

2. Noob gets trolled

3. Noob gets mad

4. Noob gets banz

5. Lulz all round

6. ????

9. Profit!!!11!!1

See everybody, this is lulz level trolling and the official template that should be followed on xda. Anyone not conforming not conforming to these standards should be banned for at least 8 seconds.

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Ftfy. New ot standard.
[Off-topic] :
No! Stahp you noobz! I request that the above user be banned for at least 8 seconds!!11

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[Off-topic] mikef:
If it was actually happening as the way I have FTFY, it would be ok. Instead, using roofie's fixes but fixing 2. to represent what is happening, this is what we are being left to.

1. Noob posts dumb stuff (Shall we go back and review your initial posts and see how kindly the lens of time judges them??)

2. Noob gets trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled, and trolled,...

3. Noob gets mad and reportz

4. Noob gets banz Trollz getz banz

5. Lulz all round No lullz

6. ????

9. Profit!!!11!!1 :mad::mad::mad:

Gang trolling and the competition of trying to outdo the last troll is killing OT. And most of it is just stupid lately. It is a race to the bottom, as some of us have been trying to tell you. Apex pointed out earlier.

No one wins.

Thank you,

mikef

XDA Senior Moderator
[Off-topic] Fallen Spartan:
Unfortunately this is the truth, trolls are ruining it for everyone........not just in OT
[Off-topic] :
Wait, did anyone take my post seriously? :what::what:

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[Off-topic] Fallen Spartan:
It's ok, no one takes you seriously
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
I lol'ed! :D

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[Off-topic] :
All good then :p

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[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Well....either things get better around here when it comes to abusive trolling or stuff will happen :cool:

I want to hear from everyone that has been affected by trolling so we can take care of it.

Also....any of you trolls inundate my thread witj kittehs or ponies (memes in general) and a ban will be given...fair warning has been given! :cool:

Carry on with opinions, ideas or suggestions, please.

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[Off-topic] veeman:
I as a troll am appalled by the new age of trolling. The same thing that has happened to rap music is happening to trolling on XDA.
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Can can, that should be fun.

I fail to see this offensive trolling/flaming you guys are accusing OT of, yes a noob's thread is trolled but most/half of the time the OP doesn't even return to his thread. In the meantime that thread will have become pony/spiderman meme thread and that is why it gets closed, not because of flaming. Trolling and flaming is worse in dev forums i would say.

Post examples next time please.
[Off-topic] undercover:
Subscribing cause I think I'll find it interesting read later.

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[Off-topic] :
Ah, ok, so we need higher quality abusive trolling :thumbup:

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[Off-topic] mikef:
If you get a chance check this out. The end is classic. Well annotated if you want learn more about Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand’s “The Lord of the Rings”

mikef
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
This is serious thread. (insert serious cat meme here).

I for one adhere to fun in OT without hurting anyone's feelings.

I think only a small percentage of lulz actually turned to a flamewar or a game of chess wits.

Most of them happened because of opinionated butthurts.
[Off-topic] veeman:
Games of wits are always fun though.
[Off-topic] deathnotice01:
Especially the part where the idiot drags you down to his level.

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[Off-topic] veeman:
And then you get banned.
[Off-topic] Sleepy!:
For teh lulz.
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
Quit making this a three story post thread ya trolls! :mad:

Serious thread is serious :cool:
[Off-topic] ronnie498:
Thus the reason for the subject of the thread
[Off-topic] 063_XOBX:
Ever heard of reverse psychiatry?
[Off-topic] :
No, but I've heard of reverse psychology.

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[Off-topic] undercover:
Is that when you make people develop a mental illness?

[MENTION=1707123]M_T_M[/MENTION], go back to school. They had more than 3 words in their posts.

And I still haven't had the time to read from the beginning and I really want to... :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] KidCarter93:
My opinion of trolling is more in-line with what a.cid wrote.

I see trolling as simply having a laugh with someone (just as with friends and family) but with nobody being downright insulted.

When I used to frequent this forum, I would generally only troll with the other regulars i.e those who I know will take it as a joke and nothing more. I tried to stay away from trolling new people/people I've not seen around the forums before purely because I don't know if they'll be aware that I'm only joking.

If you are doing a bit of harmless trolling, the main thing to be careful of is language barriers. As XDA is a multinational site, something which I class as a joke could be really offensive to someone else. Even if it's not offensive, if they don't understand that you're only messing around then it can just as easily get out of hand. That's probably one of the main reasons why trolling does get out of hand.

Honestly, I've probably insulted someone without realizing OR posted something which someone didn't understand and it grew out of control. If I have, then that wasn't my intention. That just goes to show how easily harmless trolling can spin out of control though.
[Off-topic] :
I think most are like that here.

The worst thing is that Mods might think you're posting maliciously too.

Then s**t goes down.

People get banned.

So, be careful how you say things.

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[Off-topic] jonahly:
Troll Post. Not really.

" I'm an Internet Troll, That's what I do, Mess with me I **** on you. "
[Off-topic] undercover:
So much for a serious thread.

I'd like to bring another thing to the attention here.

Trolling is different from bullying. Imho trolling is light hearted way of making fun on someone where bullying is abuse for the sake of bullies cheap entertainment. Thoughts?

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] undercover:
Selective searching FTW!

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] hanisod:
True. Agree

I don't have anything to add on that :)
[Off-topic] roofrider:
This is trolling to me.

To be noted: The cats probably live together and know each other pretty well.
[Off-topic] indomie88:
cool
[Off-topic] M_T_M:
The biggest difference that I notice between someone just fooling and a real troll is lack of common sense. The real malicious trolls just don't know when to start or finish as all they want to is cause havoc and chaos :eek:
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
And that's the difference, I've pushed it too far once (i think) stopped when i realised it had gone too far and apologised. I'm not out to upset or belittle people, sometimes we forget how old people are because they are just an avatar on a field of text and is not always easy to remember how much a few simple words can hurt someone's feelings.

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[Off-topic] roofrider:
Well, the sensible ones shouldn't take the bait either..and that is hard sometimes.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Age has a lot to do with it i think, and this forum is filling up with younger and younger people.

Language also has an influence, some of the words we use in England in a friendly manner quite often get taken out of context by someone not used to the dialect.

“My congratulations to you, sir. Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good. ”*―*Samuel Johnson
[Off-topic] undercover:
Well, that's plain bullying.

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand
[Off-topic] roofrider:
That is why i don't venture out of OT :p Too many trolls with elevated egos roam the dev fora.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
And yet some people on this forum do deserve almost everything they get.

“My congratulations to you, sir. Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good. ”*―*Samuel Johnson
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Trolling trolls ain't really a bad thing but it might get you an infraction. :D
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Surely that depends on the how?

“My congratulations to you, sir. Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good. ”*―*Samuel Johnson
[Off-topic] roofrider:
True, but i suck at trolling trolls..the really ugly green ones, so i just let someone more experienced deal with those.
[Off-topic] jugg1es:
Subtlety is the key, little spoons and soft bits :D

“My congratulations to you, sir. Your manuscript is both good and original; but the part that is good is not original, and the part that is original is not good. ”*―*Samuel Johnson
[Off-topic] roofrider:
Duly noted.

I gotta watch and learn :D
[Off-topic] undercover:
I can vouch for juggs being a pro at dealing with trolls. Oh, glorious days....

“Power-lust is a weed that grows only in the vacant lots of an abandoned mind. ” ― Ayn Rand