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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] keith.mcintyre26:
When I do something labor intensive I place my $650 phone on a safe surface. You snapped your LCD.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CliffyP:
How does that happen without anything else in the phone breaking? Second, the panel on the GS4 isn't a LCD, it's an OLED, which Samsung has touted as being more robust, and even flexible? I could understand if I did something to damage it. The phone still has protective plastic on the sides that I forgot to take off before placing it in the case.

I tried my MHL out to see if I could get a display out of it, I can - but it seems the digitizer is also damaged. It definitely seems the GS4 is less robust than prior phones in the Galaxy S series, it's a little sad.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] keith.mcintyre26:
Yeah I jumped the gun on LCD. I think it just boils down to a larger screen having less rigidity.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] coldhardtruth:
Sounds like common sense to me
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] all3rd:
That is why I wasted some money on ghost armor especially since it cover the camera. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
I'll use an otterbox until my 2 years are up. Then naked until it breaks. Or I might sell it, would still be in perfect condition
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindig26:
well mine fell face first onto pavement with a sickening thud.

i had it between my legs while i was driving, got off the car and dragged it with me.

luckily nothing happened to it, just some barely noticeable light scratches.

took it like a champ, if you ask me, no cover.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joey_triviani:
Dropped mine (with cover) from 1mt height. Externally it was perfect, not even a scratch, but the internal LCD display was broken. Sent it via Samsung Exclusive and spent 200€ for the repair. The day after I received it back, I put the memory card inside the slot and while I was closing the phone, the display broke under my thumbs (!). I thought it clearly was a factory fault but with my huge disappointing, Samsung Exclusive service doesn't cover display breaks. they don't even question if either it is a factory or customer fault.

So I decided to wait for a while before spending 200€. Glad I took such decision. Few days after, i put the device in my pocket. When I took it out, it was blocked and I couldn't use it. The volume button was broken because a key in the pocket scratched it (!) Nothing like this ever happened with the Galaxy s3 I had before. I wish I hadn't changed it for the S4, which in my opinion is not worth 700€.

All in all, I would say that S4 IS extremely fragile. Customers need to be really careful of anything they do with this device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] puppy_puke:
Strong

I was getting out of a hammock up in the mountains with my phone in hand. I started to fall out but caught myself, unfortunately i accidentally threw my phone at the ground. I hit a rock, screen side down. I had a screen protector from VZW on the phone. It shredded the screen protector and put 2 parallel scratches in my screen, about the length of 2 hyphens (--). I was disappointed but it didnt crack at all.

Do you guys think that using one of those pens used to repair clear coat scratches on cars would work on the screen?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thunderbls:
Worth a try why not... being that its lit from behind the surface you may still see the scratch but I dont see how it would damage anything. I would maybe check into the chemical makeup of the product and see if there are any know adverse effects. although i dont have any scratches it would be nice to know just in case. Let me know if you try it and if it helps or not.

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Worth a try why not... being that its lit from behind the surface you may still see the scratch but I dont see how it would damage anything. I would maybe check into the chemical makeup of the product and see if there are any know adverse effects. although i dont have any scratches it would be nice to know just in case. Let me know if you try it and if it helps or not.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HPeterson:
Been using the s4 for around 4 months now and have dropped it several times. Only thing i noticed is that the metal ring around the phone is dented. Phones amazing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kenpachi 91:
Got my phone on day 1 that it was made available on Verizon. Dropped this phone too many times already. The Cruzerlite case that I have for my phone is truly a life saver
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bestbet06:
my thoughts exactly
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Crawshayi:
I'll never go full naked but I'm using a Spigen Slim Armor case for light duty (favorite case ever so far) and a Seidio Active w/ kickstand for work/etc. I don't use a screen protector because I hate the idea of not experiencing the display exactly as it was intended. I have no doubt though that both cases can handle a fall so I'm not worried... and if somehow my screen does break well that's what insurance is for I guess. I had my old Fascinate in a dual layer case no screen protector for over 2 years and dropped it plenty of times... still near mint condition. Galaxy phones are not as fragile as people say but you're stupid to go around with *any* phone not in a case and then complain if you break it by dropping it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] badalex90:
What the heck?!? You DO complain if a phone falling from a few feets for the first time breaks. My mother has an s4, bought it a few weeks ago. It fell from her pocket on wood (it's not so hard) while she was sitting and the glass broke. IT IS FRAGILE. We both had galaxy s1s without cases. They fell hundreds of times and the glasses were still perfect. Exactly the same for my s2. No case, a lot of falls even on hard surfaces, still perfect. S4, first fall, not so hard surface, ridiculously low height, broken. It IS fragile. Too bad for a phone that costs 600€. Plus it costs 200€ to repair? They should definitely learn from apple. 50€ and the phone was mint again. Never gonna buy a galaxy anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
? Glass is glass lol. Windshields crack, bulletproof glass breaks, tempered glass shatters, it defines logic.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] imafriend123:
It is fragile. I dropped it and the LCD broke. Gorilla Glass 3 or not, that was the first time I dropped my phone and it broke. Really looking to get another phone after my contract is up or maybe the newer Samsung phones are going to be better build. The side "metal" gets dented and messed up really easily. Case or not, the iPhone I had never had a problem with a broken screen after dropping it several times, really disappointed although I got it fixed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MrMuzik:
All devices are fragile. I've seen more broken crapple phones than any other. People these days are ridiculous and funny.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ikithme:
I dropped my S4 from my car to the concrete outside (around 2 feet) and my S4 is still rocking, no scuffs on the sides (I have a case) and no scratches on the screen protector.

Seriously dude, it's a phone, it has delicate parts, what were you expecting?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] openwheelracing:
The mist fragile phone is the iPhone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cmlucht:
my son had his plugged in to the wall and stretched to the couch playing on it and the dog ran by hit the cord and the phone flew in to out sitting room about 10 feet hitting brick and out fire place not a scratch it is in a otter case though
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
WARNING! Glass cups are extremely fragile, I dropped one and it broke. I dropped my old cups before and they didn't break. It's the 21st century come on glass companies, progress not degress!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshm.1219:
I used to have an Otterbox but it wasn't enough protection. I hunted down an actual otter and now i keep my phone in it's bloody carcass. Not a scratch!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
I use a thin tpu case and haven't cracked my screen by dropping it. I've left it in my back pocket on accident and sat on it too. Not a scratch/crack.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swordmastr54:
I've dropped my s4 a few times from about 5 feet on carpet and tile I have a uag case and love it I have a screen protector as buffer more then anything else and I have seen countless iphones with cracked screens.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sushi-gee:
s4 is fragile

The phone is the greatest phone I've had, but it is fragile. My AMOLED broke while the device was in my pocket, and the glass remained intact. I think it's a design flaw because the plastic used is so light but so flimsy. On the back of the phone, the battery is the most rigid part. When even a normal amount of force is applied to the thin battery cover, the battery pushes against the AMOLED and it breaks it usually on a horizontal orientation near the level of the top of the battery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] flyboy2112:
Within two weeks of getting my S4 last summer I crashed my bike with it in my pocket, no case on it. It flew out of my pocket onto the pavement and probably landed pretty hard. Glass was completely intact, only some minor cosmetic damage to the casing. The same could not be said of the skin on my shoulder.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwhistler:
Wife's S4 spontaneously developed a small - and I mean almost imperceptible - 3mm crack in the glass in the upper right hand corner. Phone was never dropped/abused. The display did not work due to that small crack, which I think of as a kind of stress fracture. Samsung replaced the phone under warranty. The phone did have a Spigen case on it and screen proctector.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hornkt:
Love this phone.

My wife and I each got an S4 about a month ago. Neither left Best Buy without cases or screen protectors. Since then I know I took a pretty bad fall onto a concrete floor with mine in the pocket that hit the ground first with no damage. Keep in mind I'm 6'3" at about 200lbs. I know mine has fallen a couple of times as well. I like how it holds up "Knock on Wood"....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
She dropped it or sat on it without telling you lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybershawngates:
Im on my replacement phone (dropped on tile floor). My sister is on her 2nd replacement lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] orangechoochoo:
And I thought the DNA was fragile.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eskomo:
This thread is full of false statements and misunderstanding.

Glass has a hardness rating of 7. Fact. Metal has a hardness rating of between 3-5. So metal like keys and coins WILL NOT SCRATCH. You MIGHT scratch the top layer of fluorescline (sp)(no idea how to spell it) but not the glass. When you say paper scratched the screen... You are wrong. Sand and dirt was on the paper and THAT scratched the screen. Peoples pockets are perfect hiding places for sand and dirt. Number one place and reason why phones get scratched.

One of the draw backs with people wanting edge to edge displays is that its very easy to crack. All glass screens are vulnerable to cracking and breaking upon side impacts. Just the nature of the beast.

Sent from my SGS4. Go Blue!! Buck the Fuc keyes!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wardoc22:
And being glass, it is very easily broken. It's brittle. It doesn't bend, or dent like plastic and metal. It doesn't give you a warning that it is going to break like plastic and metal.

If you drop glass from anything higher than 1 foot, don't expect it to survive without any damage.

It is glass after all. If you want a tough screen, get a phone with a plastic screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fayyazurrehman:
this is good one

very good, thanks for the info:good::):victory:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Schoat333:
My 1 year old son threw my s4 on cement the other day, and my screen is fine. I just have one of those cheap vzw hard silicone cases on it too. Sounds like you just had bad luck, and the phone hit that one spot that made it crack. That's the risk we all take by owning a device with a big glass screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eskomo:
This is usually true except Gorilla Glass bends quite a bit. For such a small piece of glass it can bend a lot. According to the demo videos anyway.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Nomadadon:
There's a difference between amazingly fragile and can take daily wear and tear. This S4 is appearing it belongs in the amazingly fragile department.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BzBz:
a slim case that keeps the slim profile of the s4 would easily protect glass breaking from short drops.

a $5 tpu case adds virtually no size to the phone and is a small price to pay (with no inconvenience) to protect a $600 piece of equipment. a tank like the otterbox is not necessary except for those who expose their s4 to very harsh conditions.

yet people still come up with excuses not to protect their $600 phone or be careful enough to not drop it. maybe the manufacturer says it's virtually indestructible. and to that i say shame on you for believing that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wardoc22:
It bends but still considered very brittle when compared to other materials like plastic.

Having a big glass screen with a thin bezel doesn't help it with durability also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] golfinglenn:
+1. You don't need a big gaudy Defender case to protect your phone, but put something on there or expect it to get broken. Quit crying, you gambled going without a case and it broke. You probably *****ed cause your girlfriend got pregnant and you didn't use a condom......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrej201:
u just had bad luck

read http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...phone-5-in-our-brutal-destruction-test-video/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eskomo:
Lol........ Come on.... Really? Its glass....... I mean you do realize that phones and tablets and such have had glass screens for years right? This isn't anything new. We all know glass is not as strong and carbon or hardened steel.

And this phone does not belong in the amazingly fragile category. Its amazingly durable. Takes a 6ft drop like a champ. Its survived my sleeping. Directly on it in both front and back pockets on the hard floor.

For every person who thinks this is a fragile phone there are hundreds of thousands of us who don't. Go buy a iPhone if you want to see fragile. :)

Sent from my SGS4. Go Blue!! Buck the Fuc keyes!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] IamPro:
Wow thats insane, was not expecting S4 to do that well :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Big surface area with glass and a tiny bezel- I suggest your S4 being thrown on cement is far more luck than normal. You are very lucky.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eskomo:
I seen that video the other day and yes... Kind of awesome. Over 2 minutes in water and it was still working. And then its comes back perfect. 22 seconds or something like that for the iPhone lol. And never works right again.

What I liked was the drop test... Takes 3 attempt to get the thing to really break. And the the tire test.... I liked how it seemed to take a lot of pressure until it folded compared to the iPhone. I'd love to see the One in this test.

Sent from my SGS4. Go Blue!! Buck the Fuc keyes!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dennisg34:
Hmmm must be just you guys, i've dropped my phone 5 times already, only one little mark on the corner. no scratches or broken glass. did you buy the fakes on ebay?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Schoat333:
That describes all the newest smart phones. Luck goes both ways unfortunately.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nateohio:
I've dropped my phone at least 5 times on tile floors, cement, etc....

Not a single mark or crack on it... But I have an Otterbox commuter case on it.

It trips me out that people make a purchase like a smartphone... Don't protect it at all... And then complain when **** happens
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
My son has his DNA phone in one of those. Makes the device huge, but takes a beating.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Crooke356:
It's all about how the device lands. I dropped mine with a Ringe slim which offers little protection. It was from 4 feet high, landed on the bottom where the USB is and flipped 3 times to slide on the face. I was positive I had shattered the screen on my non subsidized baby. Not a mark. The tiny lip on the case was enough to save it from the concrete. I was lucky.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jadecamaro:
Thanks to reading this thread last night I had a dream about my poor little thin galaxy breaking in my pocket. Luckily I woke up and my otterbox still is protecting it. Whew!

Sent from my Synergy Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wardoc22:
Op seems to be overestimating is durability. I never said the phone is in the fragile category.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
News flash, you drop a phone with a BIG GLASS screen, it is bound to shatter:crying:, glass does shatter when enough force is placed on it, this is the reason all my smartphones have a case on them from the day they touch my hands, better safe that sorry. Also you do know that Gorilla glass is not shatter proof, it is scratch resistant "to a certain extend" up to 10H hardness I believe, where do people get this idea because it is Gorilla "fortified" glass they think it is as tough as steel :confused: , it is glass people and should be treated as such.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MrKleen1:
I live how thin the S4 is. But I have a tendency to fiddle with things. So I find that the phone is easy to slip out of my fingers.

I purchased two S4's at full retail and I don't want then broken. I have dropped all of my phone and luckily have never broken one. My son who is in the Coast Guard breaks them all the time while out on the boat.

So even though it makes it bigger I am using the Otterbox Defender case. I like it because it has a rubbery feel which gives it good grip so it doesn't slip out of my fingers.

I also use screen protectors.

I know there are plenty that prefer a naked phone, but I prefer a safe phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
Don't Be Disappointed

Get the Ghost Glass

Protect yourself.

I just ordered it...

Check out Flossy Rocking it....!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
I use a screen protector and a spigen slim armor case. The case makes it feel durable, and doesn't add much width. It also makes it hard to accidentally hit the wake button. Witch was a huge issue before the case.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HPeterson:
I've dropped mine numerous times and haven't had any issues yet. Personally it feels like a super durable phone to me. I think I am still going to invest in a case very soon though after seeing this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CtK4949:
Dropped mine from about 5 feet with Ned Hybrid case, nothing happen. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] templton:
Hahaha all he basically is saying is that if you drop it, good chance is... It will crack.... I have an s4 and have dropped it accidentally on carpet and it did not crack... 90 percent of the people who own them will accidentally drop it at some point over 2 years.. I also know 3 other people who own them and 2 of them have cracked screens already
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] onestepshort:
My buddy dropped his S4 only once and the entire screen shattered.. and it wasn't even a nasty fall. "Gorilla glass" is a joke. Its just like any other glass its just branded for selling purposes.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] madsquabbles:
gorilla glass adds protection, it doesn't make your phone invincible.

not directed at you, but it's amazing how people treat their $700 phones. holding it with just two fingers or using necks and chins to prop up the phone. these phones are getting thinner with the same fragile parts they've always had. treat them with care. don't stuff them into your pocket without protection unless you're willing to damage it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Metallice:
Gorilla glass is marketed for slightly better scratch resistance, flexibility, thinness, lightness, and the prevention of crack propagation.

Propogation is the key word. GG3 will still crack, it just helps prevents the cracks from going throughout the entirety of the glass. (Like you see on every college girls' iPhone ever)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BzBz:
one of my biggest pet peeves are people who try to show me things on their phones with cracked or shattered screens. yeah the phone still works, but it's janky.

another pet peeve is people who complain about glass breaking, but don't do anything to protect it. it's glass!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Crack prevention? Even bulletproof glass cracks.... Do you have any evidence of your claim?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] il buono:
Go back and read his post again. He didn't say it will prevent cracks.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dknow101:
glass fix

well if anyone get a protective glass piece to cover your screen and you end up get hair or carpet crap on it.

Just remember you dont have to return it to fix it( or as i was told, pay for replacement) then just follow my post here

It worked for me and a few others. and still like new :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
Why don't they just use plastic? It's softer and harder to break. Plus it's more malleable so it's easier to manufacture curved screens. Could make phones even lighter.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] platinumrims:
Lol @ a plastic touch screen. It would be awful. Probably not even usable
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] il buono:
Samsung will be using plastic screens for their flexible displays. There have been rumors that the Note 3 may feature a shatterproof plastic screen. Just rumors though.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
oh god plastic... all that reminds me of is like my LG env touch lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zayin101:
I have gone through probably 50 phones over the past 7 years or so, heck I even used to manage to break good ol' flip phones. None the less I can remember the first Android phones could really take a beating. I could literally bounce them off the wall and they would just pop off the back and send the batteries flying but rarely a cracked screen. Then the larger Galaxy's and Droids hit the market and they could take a solid drop but still I used up my 3 insurance claims almost every year. From my personal experience every new version year after year has become progressively easier to crack. Thank God I discovered best buy black tie protection, 10 bucks a month, no deposit and unlimited phone exchanges. Recently I have gone thru 3 galaxy nexus and I just upgraded to a S4. I didn't have the sucker 4 hours before my daughter knocked it off the table about 1 foot to tile. Instant cracked screen from a drop I would never have thought would cause any damage. I have also witnessed 6 guys break their Galaxy notes in my shop, most with cases. Don't even get me started on the IPhones. It seems to me there is good money in broken screens, and I am convinced they are getting worse every year. Let's see how this new unbreakable note 3 screen turns out. I'm not holding my breath...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] madsquabbles:
they've got almost no bezel now to absorb the shock. once the plastic (or metal in some phones) flexes into the glass it's gonna crack. gg does pretty good with flush shots to the top, but edges are its weak points.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BzBz:
plastic screens lack clarity and would be an injustice to hd displays. plus plastic scratches so easily it would be a swirl magnet on a touch screen. yes plastic is shatter proof, but it would make the hd display like an s4 look ugly as sin.

glass screens are getting more scratch resistant, but they're also getting thinner over time. the move to thinner is a weight reduction measure. because they're getting thinner they aren't getting "tougher" in terms of crack/shatter resistance. but they are getting tougher in terms of scratch resistance and how much the glass spiders out from the point of the crack.

my og droid 1 had a glass screen that could take abuse, but it was probably twice as thick or maybe even 3 times thicker than the screen on the s4. a heavy phone. that thing was like carrying around a tire thumper compared to the featherweight the s4 is.