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[HTC Wildfire S] crossfire77:
strange if there is no CM7 for marvelc,i will try to build new as soon as i get some free time.
[HTC Wildfire S] demi_fiend:
there was just a lot of kernel related problems, some of the devs that moved on tried it, icu tried it sort of, but if you can het it to, that would be amazing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] t0e:
My daily phone is Atrix 2. It can install boot menu to boot 3-5 ROM. can i install BMN to other Andriod phone ???
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eytan123:
hi there,

try posting it in your device's forum, you'll get better answers..
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] svprm:
I have n number of data,based on that i need to add 5 or 10 data(User Requirement) to the Menu Screen.

So i planned to create a menu screen as List View with custom design and then based on user requirement i can add it.

Is it ok,efficient?

or

Anyother way to design?
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] bassie1995:
Do you mean a sort of main menu, that shows a number of options?

If so, maybe look at using a Dashboard.
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] svprm:
No Bro!

Now i modified the question.

I have n number of data,based on that i need to add 5 or 3 data(User Requirement) to the Menu Screen.

So i planned to create a menu screen as List View with custom design and then based on user requirement,i can add it.
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] nikwen:
I guess that using a ListView is the right thing here. ;)

However, if you want another design, you can also create Views (like Buttons) in Java code.
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] svprm:
Thanks for your information.
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] nikwen:
You are welcome. :)
[Design, Prototyping, UI, Graphics] michelle68:
I would also to know.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
This video is for anybody doubting the strength of the S4, saying it poorly designed, and doubting all the stress testing Samsung put into the phone before releasing...well behold, a look in the official Samsung Stress Test Labs:

[YOUTUBE]K4f9gQ7b6Gg[/YOUTUBE]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Give someone a dollar to drop theirs in a bucket of water.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Dang! Nice how you can see when dropped the "plastic" body everyone *****es about flexes to absorb the impact. And those screen break test had my nerves going a bit i was for sure expecting the screen to crack?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] _Dennis_:
Water + electricity = bad

Impurities in water + water evaporating + micro electronics = broken

Really is that simple. Only way to water proof electronics is with conformal coatings then you induce heat issues and increase the size of the boards. There are water proof (well water resistant really) phones but they usually have a cost, spec and/or size tradeoff.

Seeing the video it looks like the phones will 'work' in a sense but obviously that is

1 a lab

2 not showing how long it will work

Usually the water

1 shorts the battery (not what happened there)

2 evaporates and leaves mineral deposits that shorts internal circuits

Obviously sometimes nothing bad happens. Personally I'll not take my chances lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
If it's on the Internet, it must be true. :laugh:

I really do think that these phones are stressed tested pretty good, but I also think the makers of that video might have exaggerated just a bit too. I don't think the water test accurately reflects what would happen IRL to your phone an I wouldn't recommend anyone try it

Thanks for posting the video..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
i'm not too sure how they could of exaggerated the test, its pretty straight forward to me, submerge phone in water for 15 seconds, take it out. There are countless videos on youtube showing water drop tests, they all come to the same conclusion, the phone can survive the drop in water, it might just not survive when the water starts to evaporate and leave residues on the circuit board and hardware.if you leave it like that, if you put it in a bag of rice overnight, you have decent chances of rescuing it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sharpehenry:
video says that the actual quality\torture test may be different in "real" test environment and this is for commercial purpose only. So try not to believe it 100%. I'd still carry my phone like a baby.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Lol, hence me offering a dollar. I would love to have a "waterproof" phone, but in reality I'm not dealing with freshwater so it would have to hold up to salt. Which is disappointung that nobody has come out with a decent waterproof case for our phones. Instead concentrating on apple. Sigh....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Rescuing a phone or bringing it back to life after it drops into water if proper care is taken is one thing. The phone actually continuing to work while water is in contact with the battery and circuits is something different. Electronics (unless treated with sealant) simply do not work that way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
Please, you,re telling this to a guy that studied electrical engineering for 2 semesters in college. This has nothing to do with shorting out the battery, or components, this has to do with the phone being sealed in a proper way so this DOESN'T happen. Thats the point of the test. Plus, water is a TERRIBLE conductor of electricity, only the minerals in water make it conductive. This test was probably done in distilled water which has ZERO conductivity, so it could pretty much stay in water for minutes without shorting out the phone. Somebody in detroit, and somebody in California would not have the same chances of saving their phone if dropped, one has fresh water and the other salt water, and salt water is a good conductor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] netnerd:
yeah.. that is like saying Toyota brakes problems never existed! do a video AFTER the brakes been fixed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I'm not sure if you are just trying to argue for the sake of arguing but I clearly said I think the test might have been exaggerated. Your response was that you didn't think it was (your first bolded quote) and then you turn around and say it might have been (your second bolded quote where you said it might have been distilled water instead of regular water)? Using a non-common type of water sure looks like they might be exaggerating real life outcomes to me (as I said in my first bolded quote).

So I'm not sure but it looks like you are arguing with yourself?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] imitenotbecrazy:
My buddy drop tested my phone at the bar the other night. 5 drops at about 4 feet high face down. Not a scratch or crack on the screen. Only thing was the bezel on the corner is a little bent when it didn't fall flat on its face one drop. No case or screen protector. This thing is a tank
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
That was a potentially expensive test. The bar musta been hopping. :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] imitenotbecrazy:
Haha I work for best buy so I have our geek squad protection. Being that the phone is so new I wouldn't get a refurb if it broke. I won't have the phone long enough to care about having a refurb if that happens anyway haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
i'm pretty sure this video was done weeks if not months before the s4 came out. Thats the whole point of stress testing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
No, thats because you have such a closed mind, you don't get the point of the test. ITS NOT ABOUT DROPPING THE TEST IN WATER AND SEE HOW MUCH TIME IT TAKES TO SHORT, ITS ABOUT SEEING HOW WELL THE PHONE IS SEALED AKA WATER NOT GOING UNDER LCD, AKA WATER NOT PENETRATING CAMERA LENS.........ETC. Do you get it yet? They are eliminating variables like conductivity to see how well the phone hold up against infiltration. If the phone holds up well against that, it doesn't matter if its dropped in a base solution or in acid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Planktron:
I don't know about you guys, but all my toilets are filled strictly with distilled water. :p

Samsung has more money invested in phone dropping contraptions than every house on my block is worth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AutoUnion:
But...but...all the HTC fanboys say that the S4 is some cheap plastic crap. :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Here is the website for those of us that don't speak Korean...

http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=24643

It says nothing about using any kind of special water for that test. And I am still calling Bul***t! How about filming yourself dunking your phone into regular tap water for the exact amount of time that was done in that video and let's see the results? There is a thread about a guy that dropped his in water for a moment and he had to dry it out in rice for over 48+ hours before it worked properly again...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2318906

That is a real world result! And he was lucky it came back to life AFTER drying it out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] alex6speed:
It is made with cheap plastic. Ask anybody with shattered LCDs or busted bezel corners.

The difference here is most of the tests are done on the face of the phone, which has a wider load distribution in relation to shock. Notice how none of the tests are on the corners (where each phone would be extremely weak at, especially the S4). At the perfect angle, you can send enough shock through a little surface area to take the majority of the impact and shatter the LCD once max force has been reached across itself.

I still want to see some kind of engineering that will protect phones from those death corners. Then again, even cars have them too (see the year the IHS added new corner impact tests, and how the majority of auto makers failed or did poorly). Willing to bet it like everything else in tech - the probability of hitting the corner just right is too small to bother investing money on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
do you want more videos of real life situations?

http://videos.cnet.co.uk/crave-tv/iphone-5-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4-destruction-test-40002978/

[YOUTUBE]kjE__rr7J1s[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]Mu8uRMMcQp0[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]LdRa38nrGSw[/YOUTUBE]

even with pepsi

[YOUTUBE]24pGj16WHM8[/YOUTUBE]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
im pretty sure the tumbling test doesnt really predict that, but i agree with you, corner shots are every phones weak spot. It simple physics, would you rather have some 300lbs guy step on your foot with shoes, or a 100lbs woman in high heels? I chose the 300lbs man, that high heel concentrates all the weight in such a small area that it actually weighs 5 or 6 times more. Same principal with corner drops
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Which one was yours?

A big life lesson here: Just because its on the internet does not make it true. When you try it on yours and film and post it, I will believe that your phone survived. Scraping up 3 or 4 videos from YouTube doesn't support anything in real life. I never said anything about the drop test? And that white phone in the one video WAS jacked up. The guy didn't even know why "Maps" was showing and couldn't get the screen to respond to his touch.

It comes down to this, believe what you want. I will always trust common sense over YouTube videos any day. I can show you a great Youtube video of Big Foot...wanna see it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
according to your logic, even if i tried it on mine, filmed it and posted it, it wouldn't count because its on the internet.:rolleyes:

p.s. september 11th videos are on the internet...should i disregard it happened?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Lol, the way i took his reaoonse is that he would believe "YOURS" survived. I would believe that too, but definitely not brave enough to believe it would work on mine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
You are correct, I clearly said that, we both saw that I said that, but I guess he only sees certain things.

In general, I think the phone is pretty tough and it does (overall) meet certain specs. But here is another reality for everybody...

http://tech2.in.com/news/smartphone...xy-s4-owners-to-break-it-within-a-year/871680

one in four busted certainly does not make this a super phone. And out of that 25%, not everyone is going to drop their phones off of a mountain or dive with them to the bottom of the sea. Some, will be dropped into sinks and toilets for only seconds and they will stop working.

Again, I think it is a good quality construct, but no way will I believe those lab tests are completely accurate.

September 11th??????????????? Really dude?????????????????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AdePower:
did you all see the one running stock android, or was that just me?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kcb2627:
Nice!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Kole_Ackerson:
+1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] netnerd:
speaking of science.

does all objects fall at same speed regardless of weights?

I believe the heavier the object, it will fall faster.

yeah, my high school teacher said all objects fall at same speed regardless of weights many many years ago.

when your teacher told you all objects fall at same speed,

at that time they don't have the technology to measure the speed.

just cus your eyes can't tell the difference, it doesn't make it true that all objects fall at same speed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lowandbehold:
I believe the video. On Mother's Day, my wife's HTC One S went through the washing machine. 1 hour submerged in water that contained detergent and fabric softener. Took the phone apart, removed the battery, wiped the components with alcohol, let it dry under a lamp for a day, put it together and it still works...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rcklss1:
Heres a good one done by square trade ... The test shows more "real life" situations in my opinion like corner drops, etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjE__rr7J1s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my GOLDENEYED AT&T S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
were any animals hurt while making this video? :eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AdePower:
At a certain height all objects will reach terminal velocity, but weight is a factor in reaching terminal velocity. A bowling ball will reach terminal velocity faster than SGS4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
All objects of same mass and shape fall at exactly the same speed regardless of their weight. A 20g piece of iron and a 20T one will fall at the same speed, will reach identical accelerations and have equal terminal velocities. If you doubt this, start praying baby jesus saves you from all the sinning youre doing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bender B. Rodgriguez:
Gravity.. how the #&** does it work?

sent via netcat binary
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] orlandoxpolice:
i dropped my S2 in the toilet (before pee). submerged for about 5 seconds and it is still alive a year and a half later.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] trueking7:
You can drop the s4 in water???

Sent from my TW Stock Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
It's the newest trend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Slade8525:
hmm, i wonder how babies and infants fare in these drop tests and water submerging tests. will they absorb the impact better facedown, as with the phones, or are they best to drop on a sharp corner like an elbow or cranium?

seriously; it all depends on hundreds of variables; height, angle, velocity, materials, salt water, piss water, wind, blah blah blah. the real problem is dropping them in the first place. learn to be more cautious and aware (pretend its a puppy/kitty/baby). this is just as silly as speculation about dropping babies/kittens/puppies; in some cases they get hurt, in others they dont.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] linkin275:
Did anyone else notice the GS4 Google Edition in the video?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] polish_pat:
It's not a google edition...geeze, its just stock android factory testing version. Why would they skin the phone just to test it?

It has model number I337UCUAMC8, which is a very primitive build on android 4.2 for the S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] BlackDino:
CNET had a stress test on the GS4, in which they dropped one into a bucket of water. The phone remained active for over two minutes twenty seconds (while the iphone shut off after twenty seconds). Then they put both phones into rice, the GS4 turned on and worked perfectly fine after spending 4 days in the rice (while the iphone had serious problems).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sharpehenry:
If I drop my phone in the water, I would immediately pick it up and remove the battery, then leave it dry for few days.

I would not just look at it or leave it on to see how long it will last.

These torture tests give up great relief how durable our phones are but as they stated, they are just tests.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] s384:
my wife accidently left her s2 in her pocket when she was at the swimming pool. somehow didnt notice for the hour she was in the water. she figured it was screwed after it didnt turn on so bought a new one. (they were already relatively inexpensive at the time). she left the old one just sitting out somewhere. took the battery out. a week later I got curious and tried firing it up and it worked.

you dont need to believe my internet story but I know first hand that water did nothing to the operation of the phone. I literally could not find a fault in it and to this day is still used occasionally
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] plwalsh88:
Well this has to be the funniest thing I've ever read. Firstly, they got to the moon "back then", so I think they had the technology to measure speed. Secondly, the whole concept revolves around the two objects being in a vacuum. Take a look at the kinematic equations in their most fundamental form; mass is nowhere to be found. So yes, in a vacuum, all objects fall at the same rate. What your all too keen eye is observing in real life is air resistance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] netnerd:
back then, 3.5 inches floppy disk hold 1.2MB of data!

back then we go online with 14.4k modem!

so what equipment do they use to measures speeds of falling objects 20+ years ago?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] alex6speed:
STAY ON TOPIC!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Can you guys cut the crap and stay on topic? The video just shows they test the phone to strict conditions that's all. They are not telling you that you can go and do this stuff to your phone on a daily basis. Its just to prove that on the off chance your phone gets put in a bad situation that it has a high chance for survival. Will it survive depends on a ton of factors. Some real world tests are gonna fail and people are gonna post those results but it doesn't speak for the entirety of the phone and two, people lie on the internet AND real life. Use your judgement. I choose to believe the video because Samsung has good credibility, not cause its just some video.

On a side note I keep my S4 in an Incipio case with Invisishield HD and my phone still looks brand spanking new. Granted its cased but still, I have seen phones that even when cased up still suffer wear and tear. This thing is very resistant to constant use. I use my S4 like an addict :P

And I have had this thing since release. April 22nd if I remember correctly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Another good one...actually the video don't prove a thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] penguinjoe:
Earlier responants have already hit on the answer to the water test.

Water in and of itself is not conductive. If it is absolutely pure, distilled multiple times and fully filtered / uv treated water, the S4 would have no problem getting dunked in it - if that water could actually get inside some of the case's holes. In the real world however the #1 water hole that one of these phones would land in is a toilet as the phone falls out of a shirt pocket. You will NOT find pure water in there!!

The heat test with the melted butter is just . How many times have you gone into a restaurant and would up with a melted patty of butter for your roll? You set that butter patty out in the sun on a 30C day and it would take about a minute to turn into liquid. Seriously. if an S4 couldn't stand up to that kind of heat I would not be surprised at seeing every single one of us sending it back to them for warranty replacement.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
Thread cleaned

These childish arguments are selfish monopolizing a thread

AND will NOT be tolerated on this development site

Take your crap to PMs or social media

Thank you for your cooperation

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Sp1ke08:
Hi all

I'm on stock JB .200 and I want to flash the prerooted .211 that doomlord posted but I cant go into recovery... I've tried a lot of things (vol up, vol down, vol up + tap, vol down + tap) and nothing happens. I was able to boot into recovery with stock ICS but not now...

Is there a way to install a recovery WITHOUT root and WITH a blocked bl?

Thanks!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] TaherPrimas:
The .200 official jelly bean for xperia s that you flashed doesnt provide a recovery directly .... you have to flash a kernel with recovery which has been provided by DooMLoRD in the same post ... you can flash d kernel as instructed ! den u can enter d recovery mode !

Hit THANKS if I helped you ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Sp1ke08:
Yeah but the only way to flash that kernel is by having root, which I don't, so...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cities516:
Who said you need root to flash kernel?

Connect your device to PC in fastboot mode, flash kernel.elf, reboot into recovery, flash SuperSU.zip, that's it!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] TaherPrimas:
i guess the ROM that DooMLoRD has provided is already prerooted :confused: ... and though You dont need root to flash the kernel !!! just install the busybox on .200 ROM then follow the instructions given by DooMLord to flash kernel on the locked bootloader... then boot you can boot into recovery ! :)