yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] Savage-wp:
HTC S710

HTC TyTN

HTC TyTN II

HTC HD2

HTC Sensation

HTC One X

HTC One
[One (M7) General] cjm1979:
Shed load of Nokias

That Sony Ericsson that spun round

Nokia N95 8Gb

Blackberry Storm ( Complete Dog Sh!t )

Xperia X1

HTC Touch Pro 2

Htc Desire

Htc Legend

Htc Wildfire

Htc Sensation

Htc Evo 3d

Htc One S

Htc One X

Htc One
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
Droid Eris

Droid Incrdible

Droid 2

Droid Razr Maxx

Nexus 4

Galaxy Note 2

hell, even a 4S for a day.

All these phones got me here.
[One (M7) General] MyFarewell:
Lots of nokias---> motorola---> ericson/sony---> motorola---> nokia n81---> Samsung s5230--> Htc Desire HD --> Htc One

Cant really remember all the phones used.
[One (M7) General] Stokie2012:
Working backwards.....

HTC One

Galaxy Note 2

Galaxy S3

HTC One X

iPhone 4S

HTC Sensation

BlackBerry Bold 9900

iPhone 4

That's the last 3 years..... Plenty before hand too...
[One (M7) General] mustainegab:
MPx200

MPx220

HTC MTeoR

HD2

MOTOROLA XT910

HTC ONE X

HTC DNA

HTC ONE
[One (M7) General] blackroseMD1:
Just my smartphone history:

Samsung Moment (Got it because they didn't have the Evo 4G in stock. Took it back less than a week later and told them to give me a damn Evo.)

HTC Evo 4G

HTC Evo 3D (Drove a hundred mile round trip to get it on launch day. Oops.)

Samsung GS2 Epic 4G Touch

HTC Evo 4G LTE (Would have stuck with this over the S3, but I changed from Sprint to AT&T here. No HOX in stock.)

Samsung Galaxy S3

HTC One.
[One (M7) General] Ali812:
Blackberry Bold 9700 -> Samsung Galaxy S II i9100 -> Samsung Galaxy S3 i747 -> Samsung Galaxy S4 i337 (used it for about 2-3 weeks max) -> HTC One

As someone who has owned both the S4 and the One, HTC One > Galaxy S4
[One (M7) General] Timbermill:
HTC Canary

HTC Typhoon

HTC Vox

HTC Diamond

HTC Hero

HTC Desire HD

HTC One
[One (M7) General] airicd22:
IPhone

IPhone 3GS

IPhone 4

Dell streak

LG Nitro HD

HTC One.
[One (M7) General] Athrun88:
In my sig :p

HTC S720 (2.5 years)

HTC Hero (2 years)

HTC Desire Z (2 years)

HTC One X (< 1 year)

HTC One
[One (M7) General] Simba501:
Ha...that didn't last long.

Back in the day, I tried the iPhone 3GS. Didn't last a week :laugh:.
[One (M7) General] Shadow Samurai:
Started with the hd2, then g2, amaze/iPhone 4s, then finally the One (an reincarnation of the hd2 to me)...

Sent from the one and only HTC One
[One (M7) General] fendushi:
My Smartphone journey:

NOKIA 6600 > SE P900 > O2 XDA2s > NOKIA N95 > iPhone 1G > NOKIA N95 8GB > iPhone 3G > iPhone 4 > Samsung S3 > HTC ONE
[One (M7) General] telefonito:
Nokia 5700

Nokia 5800

Milestone 2

SGS2

HTC one x

IPhone 4S

HTC one

Enviado desde mi HTC One usando Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] naveen94:
IPhone 3gs

Iphone 4

Iphone 4s

Galaxy note

Htc one x

Nokia lumia 900

Galaxy s3

Iphone 5

Droid dna

Galaxy note 2

Sony xperia z

Htc one (coming tomorrow)
[One (M7) General] expertzero1:
Epic 4G Touch (Sprint GS2)

iPhone 4S

HTC One X

Galaxy S3 US

iPhone 5

Note II

Nexus 4

HTC One

Optimus G Pro

HTC One again
[One (M7) General] Huey85:
Motorola E398

LG U8110

Samsung D600

i-Mate JasJam

Nokia N95

Nokia N95 8GB

Apple iPhone 2G

Apple iPhone 3G

Google Nexus One

HTC Hero

Apple iPhone 4

Motorola RAZR

HTC One X

HTC One 32GB

HTC One 64GB
[One (M7) General] theotrman:
XDA is AWESOME! Love to watch the magic happen!

SPRINT

Hero

HTC EVO4G

HTC EVO3D

SG3 gave it to my son 1 day later and stuck with my 3D.

I LOVE SENSE!

HTC ONE - current

ATT work - BB Curve

VERIZON work - BB BOLD current updating to BBZ10. :)
[One (M7) General] kelvintisw:
2007: iPhone.

2008: iPhone 3G.

2009: iPhone 3GS.

2010: iPhone 4.

2011: HTC EVO 3D.

2012: HTC Sensation XE > XL > One X.

2013: Samsung S4 > HTC One 32GB Silver.
[One (M7) General] baadnewz:
HTC Diamond - Xperia X1 - HTC TP2 - HTC Desire - SGS 2 - HTC Sensation - HTC ONE X - ONE X+ - ONE
[One (M7) General] powerdams:
Hi everyone, i'm new here and i'm coming from Samsung galaxy S 1 forum.

It s a pretty big jump ! :victory: HTC is a new world for me...
[One (M7) General] Simba501:
Hi! Welcome :).

Sent from my HTC One
[One (M7) General] Jose Viegas:
For the last few years I have the HTC One, Galaxy SIII, Galaxy Nexus, Xperia S, Iphone 4 & 3GS, Blackberry Bold, Nokia N95, and a lot of Sony-Ericssons, Nokias, Motorolas most of them unknown by most guys who are on the forums, being that this was my first 'mobile' phone:

And this one of the most sexy ones (I still own it):
[One (M7) General] x017in:
Sony Ercisson w950

Sony Ercisson w960

LG Arena

Samsung Galaxy 1

Google Nexus One

Samsung Galaxy S

iPhone 4

HTC Sensation

Nexus S

iPhone 4S

Samsung S2

Galaxy Nexus

HTC One X

Samsung S3

iPhone5

Nexus 4

Samsung Galaxy Note 2

HTC Droid DNA

Samsung Galaxy S4

HTC ONE - Dev ED

HTC ONE - ATT
[One (M7) General] Cryosx:
BlackBerry Curve

iPhone 3G

Samsung Galaxy S (AT&T)

Samsung Galaxy S II (AT&T)

HTC One X (AT&T)

HTC One 64GB (AT&T)
[One (M7) General] wakers:
Numerous Sony Ericsson

HTC hd 2

Desire

Sensation

IPhone 4 (week)

Sensation xl

Samsung s2

Samsung s3

HTC one X plus

HTC one :)
[One (M7) General] aussiesausage:
I went Galaxy S, Galaxy S2, Galaxy S3 (x2), Galaxy note, iPhone5, got myself a One now for a change and I'm loving it heaps. feels so good and looks so good.
[One (M7) General] mehmetolgungun:
Samsung Galaxy (i7500)

HTC Desire S

HTC Sensation

HTC One X

Samsung Galaxy Note II

Nexus 4

Xperia Z

HTC One
[One (M7) General] Rimmir:
Motorola Q9C

Nexus S 4G

Galaxy Nexus LTE (Sprint)

HTC One (Sprint)

Sent from my HTC M7WLS
[One (M7) General] dvsk69:
I had only HTC Desire. It was again a legendary phone like the One.

Honestly, after 3yrs with my Desire, I didnt find a worthy replacement to it until the One came out. Have both the the devices now and pretty happy with both of them.
[One (M7) General] vecchioni27:
VX 6600

Verizon Blitz

LG Dare

GS1 (Fascinate)

GS3

HTC One and loving it.

This is by far the best phone I've ever owned out of the box. I loved my GS3. Was rooted and customized to my perfection. This will soon be there though :)
[One (M7) General] lance989:
IPhone 3GS**gagged as I wrote this line**

HTC Desire HD

HTC One

Love HTC devices built like rocks..
[One (M7) General] DigitaL BlisS:
Godammit I wrote a big post and Tapatalk is like STFU.

Tl;Dr

My Android lineage:

HTC Dream (G1), HTC Magic, Nexus One, Motorla Atrix, Galaxy SII, Galaxy S2x, HTC One.

Then I went on about how the HTC One has been the best Android device since the Nexus One and how this thread has really taken me down memory lane. HTC really knocked it out of the park again in every way possible this time. Finally satisfied again... I mean they even have a Google/Nexus version on the way. Best phone in ages.
[One (M7) General] ac3kill:
Motorola u600, Motorola razor v2 ,samsunga867 - trashed

HTC hd2 -sold

HTC desire HD - sold

HTC ONE X + - X2 broken glass x2

HTC ONE ! - perfect with otterbox commuter

Been with HTC since my first smartphone and not going anywhere

Since everyone else uses crap parts and plastic ! Even cars these days are majority plastic it's dumb ! I'm to rough on phones for plastic you should of seen my HTC desire that thing was neat to help as I used no case and it still works dropped it so many times theres chuncks missing out of metal corners haha HTC just makes superior build quality there #1 in my heart
[One (M7) General] Djmk4:
Sony Ericsson w900i the first phone with built in 512mb memory!it had a memory card slot...wow one of my favorites back then...Nokia n81...Sony Ericsson w995.....HTC diamond..HTC sensation Xe I was in love when I bought it...:p...HTC rezound...HTC one x.....HTC one x+......HTC Droid DNA True beauty.......and now HTC ONE..stunning...member of HTC elevate...my Device history tells it :p
[One (M7) General] Freshtojeff:
1st gen iPhone -> HTC Aria -> HTC Inspire 4G -> HTC One! These are just the smartphones, wouldn't be able to remember everything prior to the smartphone era lol
[One (M7) General] seanicca:
IPhone 4S > ZTE blade > S2 > Xperia S > one x > S3 > gnex now one

All been stock rooted apart from my one which I haven't touched, well haven't found the need to
[One (M7) General] sudkcoce:
Same here!
[One (M7) General] EnIXmA:
BlackBerry 8900>bb9700>bb9900>Galaxy nexus>Nexus 4>HTC one
[One (M7) General] totolachance:
Htc touch cruise

Htc hd2 .. a monster

htc one s

Htc one .. the perfect
[One (M7) General] jgeorge15:
Dang am I the only Motorola guy?

Motorola Q (Windows 6.1)

Motorola Droid 2 Global

Motorola Droid 4

Motorola RAZR M

Motorola Droid RAZR MAXX HD

HTC One

Loved Motorola but they just have been behind the game when it comes to smartphone technology (Although the battery life on the MAXX is unmatched by any phone out on the market to this day :P)
[One (M7) General] MrOeyta:
Galaxy ace, Lumia 510, Motorola motoluxe, HTC one V, HTC windows phone 8s and now my htc one
[One (M7) General] dorezen:
T-MOBILE G2 > HTC one s > HTC one
[One (M7) General] pandaball:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2158159
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I am seriously thinking about downgrading (specs-wise) from my Note II to the Mega 6.3 simply for its screen size. 6.3" is just about﻿ the PERFECT display size I have ALWAYS wanted.

After 15 months with the OG Note and 5/6 with the Note II I planned to upgrade to a Note III in the fall but since it seems it will only have a 5.99" display and a 6.3" display *is* on the market, I can't stand to go for the worse choice. Especially since it is "almost a Note", I mean it has almost all of the hardware and software features which make Samsung top-end smartphones the ONLY smartphones I would buy today.

The biggest problem are not losing the S-Pen, losing AMOLED and losing 2 cores, the biggest problem is losing 512MB of RAM...

So, seeing as the Mega 6.3 is now available in Europe, I need to know from someone who has been using a Note II what's it like to switch to a Mega 6.3, especially in regard to the lesser RAM with heavy multitasking and to the display quality.

YouTube comparisons I have watched so far are pretty useless but I have some more to watch.

BTW, if you have come across some *good* and in-depth comparisons please point them out.

P.S. When a Galaxy Mega 6.3 forum on XDA??
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChodTheWacko:
The mega series is a midrange level phone. It's almost certainly going to choke under heavy multitasking. It's meant for people who aren't heavy users but just want a bigger screen for cpu light tasks like pictures, maps, reading, etc.

Ignore the screen size change and it's significantly worse than the note 2.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hagba:
I would also like to have a bigger screen than my Note II, but with Mega there is almost certainly too much to compromise.

I am looking forward for Sony's 6.44 inch device to be announced soon.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
It will slow down for sure, *by how much* is the question...

Anyway, since I am not interested in games in the slightest, my main concern is not a slower or laggier phone (since the difference in anything but games is very likely going to be acceptable for me), is just apps switching and how many of them can it maintain active in the RAM with their inputted data and in the state I have left them...

Well.. yeah, of course it's worse than the Note II in pretty much everything.. my whole point was that I just can't "ignore the screen size" and was trying to understand by how much exactly everything else is worse than the Note II...

If it's not too much I might be willing to compromise in order to get a PERFECT SIZE display.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FinancialWar:
just wait for the note 3....
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Yeah there is the Huawei Ascend Mate at 6.1" too but this (and most likely the Sony as well) has a f*cking integrated battery so that's the biggest deal braker of all right there and I can't even be bothered to go over the rest of their specs... Useless junk.

The LG Optimus Pro would be an alternative worthy of consideration if its screen wasn't just 5.5". Too small an improvement in screen size to consider switching over from Samsung HW and SW (both of which I LOVE).
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
That's what I was/am doing but it seems more and more likely that it will have a 5.99" display... (and yeah, I would buy it in a heartbeat but would still be pissed at having to give up bigger displays which already exist today!).
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FinancialWar:
miss for like few months, big deal! You will be getting 1080p too.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
It's not just the wait, it's the fact that its display size (if it's confirmed at 5.99") will be SMALLER than SEVERAL competitors (one from Samsung itself!) which are much closer to or exactly my ideal size!!

P.S. I care much more about a perfect size than 1080p since we aren't talking low res displays in any case here, 720p for a 6.3" display is very much OK with me (not ideal, of course. 1080p would be ideal).
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Follow up: the Mega is a no-go, I have reverted back to wait for the Note III.

The smaller RAM is too much of an handicap and the Mega sold in Europe is the 8GB/LTE variant and not the 16GB/3G. LTE is pretty much still useless over here and I would much rather have 16GB of internal storage (at a lower price to boot!)...

Plus, there are ton of original accessories already available (including all of the ones I always get for my smartphones) but the Brodit car dock (the ones I use) is not available for the Mega and IDK if and where it will be and the Samsung one is the only original accessory that is not available...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sandata:
It'll eventually slow down as apps getting updates and requires more cpu and ram

_____________________

Via GT-N71OO using XDA_Elite_App
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knite75:
I have had the Mega 6.3 for about a week now. I have had the Note 2, as well as, S4. Here's my experience so far.

--Software is identical to the S4 (airview and all that good stuff)

--Very slim body compare to the Note 2

--Battery lasts surprising well (I'm a power user)

--The display is quite amazing. I wasn't expecting much, but I am truely impressed.

--Similar sound quality as the S4

--Have not noticed any lag at all. Very fluid.

I'm trying to think of negatives, but nothing is coming to mind except:

--No dedicated XDA forum

--No Root/CWM/ROM yet

--Looking for an extra battery or charger, but could not find on Amazon or anywhere.

--There are some batteries on eBay from China...but, not gonna gamble with those.

I'm running it on T-Mobile. I'm in refarmed 4G area. There's LTE available here as well, but can't pick it up :(

Overall, on paper spec-wise...might seem like an inferior phone. However, in really world experience, I'm truly and utterly impressed. Not going back to my Note 2 at all. it's a godsend for ebook readings and Youtube watching.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Many thanks for the reply but the only thing I was researching and could not find a clear answer for was how 1.5GB RAM impacts heavy multitasking as opposed to 2GB RAM.. :o

As for the original accessories I don't know where you are based but over here ALL of the original Samsung accessories (various pouches, covers, cases, batteries, chargers, separate battery chargers, desktop dock ecc) are available (and pretty cheap too) minus the car dock.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KCA.:
This.

As for the RAM.. Has there ever been a point when you've checked and seen that your GN2 was using more than 1.5GB? If not, then you'll be fine. If so, then I'm sure managing your RAM a little better is worth if for the 'perfect screen size'
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] taran181:
I have seen its review on youtube...its available ram is only 1.1 gb sumthing .. n most of the time note 2 consumes 1.1gb something ..so i think ram can cause you problem...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
Also its not what RAM you use currently, its what your useage demand will be in say 6mnths time. We all know that a phone that had enough when we bought it often feels crippled halfway through ownership as more & more demand is placed on it.

A new phone needs to have twice the RAM you currently need.

Note 3 screen is an 8% increase in size & that's plenty extra for me.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Nope, unfortunately. As said, upon further research plus some empirical tests 1.5GB RAM is really too little RAM for me. I have to pass.. :(
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Yep, RAM size is one of the specs I care most, nowadays.

I am not a gamer and I don't terribly mind some small slowdown and lag here and there but available RAM and display size are THE things which really let you use your smartphone as a "pocket computer" so I am not willing to compromise on those as much as I may on some other things.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I don't think that in 6 months I will be using double the RAM I am now doing the same things but I would surely appreciate 3 GB of RAM on the next Note!

An 8% increase in display size is definitely NOT what I am looking for in the next Note. I am, and have *always* been, looking forward to a 6.3"/6.5" display (depending on the bezel and aspect ratio, of course).

That's my ideal. Always have been (I was talking about those dimensions back when 4" seemed "huge" to most folks), always will be.

We will get there and people will get it, in the end. But these small steps are somewhat frustating (especially since a big part of the reasons for these baby steps is just people's dumbness).

I believe the "ultimate" screen sizes around which future smartphones will coalesce will be 5" and 6.3"/6.5".
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
My old note & my note2 both "disappeared" when not in use.. as in i forget its there .. i do alot of outdoor activity like cycling & i have the phone in my front Jean pocket, a 5.9" with small bezel will also be viable.

Its fairly clear that 6.3" is simply too big for that & Samsung do alot of research on this.

People will buy 6.3" phones but not in huge numbers like the 5.9 Note3.

Samsung know that huge numbers of people wont buy a phone they can't put in their jeans. I wonder how many people who want a 6.3" screen have made a dummy from wood ETC & tried it ... its BIG .. :D :D
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
Well, yes.. if you keep it in your front pockets :)

I am often out and about and do a lot of outdoor activity as well but I never keep it there, I can't stand to stuff things in my front pockets, I barely tolerate paper handkerchieves there.

Smartphone, 2 additional batteries, wallet (for money, cards and documents), car keys, house keys, a pen and a pocket knife *always* go in a fanny pack. If I am using the smartphone and need both hands free I momentarily put it in a back pocket. Sometimes I carry much fewer things and my smartphone goes in my jacket pocket (wintertime) or back pocket (summertime).

In *all* of the places I carry and have always carried my smartphones (even back when they were much smaller) a 6.3"/6.5" device fits just perfectly :)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
Well i wear the absolute minimum i can that's a T-Shirt & jeans, no wallet just plastic bank card & emergency cash (notes) i take one small house key & never any vehicle keys (truck, car, several motorcycles) unless i absolutely have too & then its just the minimum.

Can't see the point of wallets.

Vehicle keys are such a pain though with the remotes & i have to carry yet another remote for gates to my property.

Minimizing stuff to carry is a constant battle.

I can't see how phones survive in back pockets.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I hear you but I lost that battle long ago... LOL

I could do without the pocket knife, pen and wallet (although without the wallet the cash, cards and driving license/ID would be a mess) but I do need the rest so I just gave up many years ago and simply carry the fanny pack (slung across the chest) with the added "niceties" it affords me... :(

I take it out when I sit :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
We don't need to carry any documents in UK so no driving licence ... insurance .. ID.. ETC is needed .. also we forgot to add glasses/sunglasses: )

Yep taking out before sitting is assumed but what about when you spot some cash on pavement/Park & need to do a stealthy bend : D
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkmuck:
I'm on the fence with the Mega as I am patiently waiting to see what size screen the Note III will offer. I currently have the original Note and have been considering both the Mega 6.3 and the Ascend Mate for a few weeks. The lack of 1700MHz and lower battery capacity in the Mega are major drawbacks...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sebtorres82:
The things I look in a phone are good resolution, CPU, RAM, and camera. So the Mega for me is not an option
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I knew about the ID (technically it's not strictly mandated over here too but if you are not carrying one and the police have a "justified suspicious" about you they can held you until you are IDed) but didn't know you can drive without having to carry a DL :eek:

Anyway, where do you think I live, Sweden, Norway or some other such civilized place? Cash on pavement would likely last such a short time here that you don't have to worry about "stealthy bends" LOL

Should the occasion present itself you can do them no problem with the Note II in your back pocket anyway, try it :laugh:

Also, I wear sunglasses only very occasionally and only when driving so I keep them in the car! :)
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I do hope they will offer it in a couple of different sizes like they are doing with the Mega but I doubt they will. Maybe they are testing the waters with the Mega, who knows..?

But if they offer one size only I doubt very much it will be 6.3", I think they will go for the rumored 5.99".

Fingers crossed... Especially since I see no alternatives whatsoever.

The Mega has too little RAM (besides several other drawbacks which are not dealkillers by themselves to me but lower its appeal quite a lot) and the few other ones are either only very marginally bigger than the Note II or have f*cking integrated batteries...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
I would have thought display size was quite THE requirement for a Note user...
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
Yes, no documentation whatsoever is needed to be carried with you when driving.

Having not to carry ID makes us fell free, this is however entirely delusional as a bank card or a phone is more than enough for the authorities to ID a person isn't it. :)

BTW.. "Fanny pack" gave a good clue as to your location as the word Fanny in some parts of Europe means Vagina.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xdapao3:
"some parts of Europe" as in "the UK" LOL!

I have been an expat for quite a few years in quite a few countries on several different continents but I picked up most of my English in the US (greatest country in the world by far, love it to bits) so a fanny to me is an ass... oops, sorry, an aRse LOL

The funny thing is my best mate was a Brit or, as he would prefer to say, an Englishman :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pat.:
Well yes "Britain" & "England" are far from the same.

I've traveled extensively including the US from east coast to west & have family friends in CA & my grandfather was brought up in NY but i would say my corner of the UK which is today 20° & sunny & an hour from London & about the same to mainland Europe. By far the best place to live & nothing holds me here either its 100% personal choice: D