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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mattymillz:
i dropped mine without a case and it held up perfectly
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
Success!

I just got mine in. It is smooth and so easy to install...

It even protects against them damaging finger prints...:victory:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Chaos2092:
A 25 dollar screen protector? Also made of 'glass' that most certainly won't provide any further protection from the inane number of careless drops people here have complained about?

What a scam, wow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
Do a little research, you might find something out that you didn't hear in a chat room.

See quote at the bottom of my signature...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
I feel like a glass protector would shatter if I dropped it, but at the same time protect the phone. Still, you drop it once and your out 25$
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] il buono:
You're out $25 but that shattered screen protector may have saved you the trouble of replacing a screen or getting a refurb. These tempered glass protectors are pretty durable. I've had them on two previous devices as well and they haven't broken when dropped.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
lifetime warranty if you break your glass screen protector. Check out ghost glass...

It is worth the money just to not have finger prints anymore. Now of they can just get an anti face cheese protector, im so in!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
I removed my plastic screen protector last night. The phone looks much nicer now and the screen quality is improved a bit. Looks more high end :D I think the main reason why the display would break is due to flexing and then in 2nd place sudden forceful trauma. Flexing wouldn't crack the glass per se but instead damage the actual display underneath. Sudden forceful trauma would more likely crack the glass. Having the case that I have keeps the phone from flexing too much while protecting it from minor drops, but it's far from bulletproof. Having Gorilla Glass 3 should resist scratches from almost everything except sand and maybe diamonds, so if I can prevent the phone from flexing, I think I'll be ok.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] platinumrims:
Tampered glass protectors are amazing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nemock:
Stress concentration. It's why windows are round in jets. You drop it on the right angle on the corner, it will crack.

If it cracked without a case and you don't want a case on it, then you got unlucky. Gorilla glass 3 is actually some of the toughest glass in the industry. I've tested it personally at CES, it's amazing stuff.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] manofcolombia:
Gorilla glass 3 is just anti scratch not really more shatter proof. Corning does the same thing that nvida does with their graphics cards, first generation is more cuda cores for rendering and what not and then the next generation is a bit more vram and preformance for gamers so its the same with GG 1st gen was anti scratch 2nd was anti shatter and now its back to anti scratch. I would pick up some tempered glass from Spigen. They are awesome and it is the best screen protector imaginable. they just came out with a new super thin one that is only .15 mm thick so its hardly noticable and feels like real glass because it is real glass.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] senatortom:
The glass on mine is fine, no scratches on the screen without a screen protector so far (got it on release day). The only "fragile" thing about the phone to me is the back cover. It makes a weird crackling noise sometimes when I press down on it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
Go for the ghost glass... it's facecheese proof!

sent from my note2 running 'beans' 18 dual boot w/ pacman .23
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] durrell12:
Yeah, I don't think I've ever been so nervous with a phone as when I first bought this one. I immediately bought a Slim Armor case, but I'm still more nervous with it than I was with my iPhone. It just don't feel very sturdy. I still love it. Just feel like it's a matter of time before I fumble it and shatter it to pieces.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MrMuzik:
hm....................
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] imablackhat:
Pmd you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] H3Dude:
Cute... tampered glass. Sorry, couldn't resist.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ericstephani:
After using smart phones for 8 years now, just a couple days ago I finally had a drop that caused a screen break. This was on my GNex. I was cycling and bunny hopped over some train tracks, the phone jumped right out of the back pocket on my jersey. Went flying at 20 mph down the concrete. I never used a case. And I have had my fair share of minor drops. Never had a screen break. Like many others I hate the look and bulk cases add.

Now having a new GS4 unit, and paying full retail for the phone, I am absolutely considering a case. And after reading this, even more so. I wasn't going to give Verizon any more money than I absolutely have to so I didn't but one from the store.

Like one other member here, I really wanted to get a HTC One, but timing and circumstances didn't work out. I needed a replacement immediately.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] platinumrims:
Lol that's hilarious. I just read it. I think I'll leave it :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mmoffet:
Just a heads up, the Slim Armor case does not protect well from falls. I dropped my S4 from about waist/pocket height this weekend with a Slim Armor case on it. The glass shattered so bad I have trouble seeing some of the screen underneath.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Rickinsav:
I believe you. Mine too. Most people have lint in their pockets and that more often than not contains sand granules + paper = sandpaper

Enough to scratch any gorilla glass in a few places...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Monkz:
I've put my GS4 in my pocket with change, papers, lighters, etc and it hasnt even got one hairline scratch on the screen in the 6 weeks i have had it. I dont use a screen protector as it just ruins the experience of the phone by affecting the colour and image quality, and just making the screen not feel as smooth when using it. Why bother paying for such an expensive device if your going to hold it in a shell and not even use it to its maximum potential. I have a lightweight $20 case that doesnt take much out of the great thinness of the device, and i threw my phone to my brother down my 12 foot staircase at home and he wasnt ready for the catch and he fumbled it over his head and it fell on the tiles and no harm was done to my phone whatsoever. I think all in all its a great sturdy device, and as my S3 help up well until i intentionally smashed it on the sidewalk, this phones not taking any damage whatsoever to my slips and general use. Can't really ask for much more out of such a fantastic piece of hardware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djkeller3:
I have an S4 (company phone). Had it for a week and 1 day. Dropped it on a ceramic tile floor and shattered the screen. Made me sick. I've had lots of smart phones. I've dropped all of them. This is the first one I've ever cracked or shattered. This happened before I had a chance to get any kind of a case. Don't know yet what I'm gonna do about the screen. Makes me sick to use it looking like it does.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] robertlee993:
S4 issue

Smasung has always been using Gorilla Glass for most of its sets specially S2 or S3 or S4 . Gorrila works best with samsung...:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Soulreth:
Glass is Glass

Glass is just that glass, it doesn't matter what type or kind or who makes it. It's glass it will break and sometimes it only takes a little. That's like asking why your car windows break when your in an accident and why they didn't withstand the crash.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shadowfunk14:
So ive had my phone a few weeks and I finally dropped it one to many times and cracked it. Orderd a new glass screen replacemt on Amazon and waiting for its arrival.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Son Rise:
Thats krazy. Cuz my s4 slipped out of my hand well standing up. It hit the floor. Lile concrete floor. It flapped a few times. And landed flet on the screen side. My screen was fine. Just a lil scratch at the bottom of the phone. Took a lil whiting paint off the phone. Nothing more. I was lucky!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] itzdepresed:
That's strange. I accidentally dropped mine from about chest height onto bare concrete, no major damage besides tiny nicks in the metal edge of the phone. No other damage, scratches, or cracks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wardoc22:
I have a friend that somehow ran over her s3 with her car.. It bent but didn't crack or anything. Worked just fine after. Like I mean its literally bent.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
May I ask a question, do all of you handle your phones with butter all over your fingers, LOL.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] a.demarco:
basically what it seems to come down to is how your phone lands when it falls. mine fell from about 2' onto pavement, and cracked. others have said theirs fell from 5' onto concrete and not cracked. mine landed on the upper right corner of the phone, and i have a big diagonal crack in the screen now. **** happens...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mach1man:
Do you all have insurance? There is no way I could deal with a cracked screen or scratches.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Nomadadon:
Yeah, but $175 deductible hurts. Yeah, cheaper than $600 but in 3 months I bet I can get an almost new (refurb) phone for that and save $11 per month.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] durrell12:
Well that's not good to hear. :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kyooshi:
I've dropped my S4 a few times so far (had it for over 40 days) and its held up great, no scratches or cracks on the glass, even though it fell out of my pocked while riding my bike.The back has a few big deep scratches, but it's plastic, so I'm not surprised.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bjbinc:
damn you guys are clumsy :eek:

I left my first iphone in my lap as I was getting out of my car several years ago...it had only a minor ding, but it traumatized me enough that i've never dropped a phone since. I never use cases or screen protectors and always am able to sell them in like new condition after 1.5 to 2 yrs of use. I'm OCD about my electronics though...surely in the minority.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] d11dog11:
Well,

I just broke my second galaxy s4. Verizon variant if that matters. Second time I dropped it from about stomach height. In a case designed to stop damage..... and second time the phone looks perfect but the LCD panel is dead. I can get it to flicker but thats it. I have never had a phone stop working due to a drop in my life and i have already had 2 on this phone. Has me worried.

Was in a tech21 mesh case with the D30 stuff that is supposed to never damage your phone too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ejhollyer:
Well I'm caseless (and careful, I like to think) but now you all have me pretty nervous. Decisions decisions....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nazzo123:
ive dropped mine a couple times on concrete and didint crack. Keep in mind though that i was caseless and i had the spigen GLASS.t Slim on my phone. The aluminum scratched up a bit and a couple small cracks on my glass.t but not on my LCD. So invest in a glass protector. better than paying the deductible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Without a case, the thing is a fruken' slip magnet. Even more than the S3. All that glass and 9.8m per sec/sec squared is not a good combo. Gravity is a b$tch.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kg2128:
Lol at some of the people here and the OP. "I dropped my phone and it cracked, so the phone is no good." The phone is really thin and light, it is not meant to be dropped. Hell, most smartphones are not meant to be dropped. If you have butterfingers or are careless (clearly some people in this thread are) then get a very sturdy case. If you are a phone breaker, get insurance along with the case. Motorola is probably still #1 in build quality so you can try getting that instead, but even those can still crack when dropped. Might wanna pay more attention to a 650 dollar device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Actually, the S4's plastic design is more apt not to crack if dropped compared to aluminum cases. This is relative though, since all are likely to crack- especially a corner landing, but the S4 would have a few percent less chance of cracking. Then again, it has .3" more diagonal glass than the One, so perhaps this nulls the plastic's better shock absorbtion characteristics. Statics and kinetic energy are a b$tch.

I dropped my S3 several times over the year for various dumb reasons and it did not crack, but had an extended battery and one of them thin honeycomb rubber cases on it. Just ordered the same for my S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] madsquabbles:
just had a talk with one of our salesmen about this. he broke a phone and asked why we don't have insurance on them. i asked him why he didn't treat it like a $650 piece of equipment. they're all told that they're responsible for the phones if they break. he placed his on a stack of things he was carrying and dropped it.

i was able to sell him my droid charge for $75 though:good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Perhaps you all do not have kids and here is an example: Kids crying in the car, you are tired and just picked them up from daycare, you just loaded them in their car seats and decide to call for pizza and get distracted again- forget the phone is in your lap while having to get the kids out their seats to take them in with you to get the pizzas and the phone hits the ground. This and a similar event happened to me twice, plus getting out of the car while taking the phone from a dock to place in pocket, phone hits the edge of the door and spirals to the cement parking lot.

Point is $hit happens, regardless of cost considerations. That said, if no case or screen protection, I do agree with your premise.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] madsquabbles:
yep, he chose not to have a case or screen protector - which we advised all to do (only one listened). the "new" phone has a case since i kept it in one.

it was their choice to switch to smartphones, they still have the option to switch to plain ole phones. we pay for the service and the initial phones (and upgrades if needed). damage from negligence/accidents is their responsibility. i'd supposed that if they wanna pay $7 (or what ever it is) we could add it, but again deductibles will be their responsibility. i'd rather just get a used phone off ebay or amazon. a high performance quad core isn't really needed for them. they barely use 1GB total per month for all 5 sales people.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joderme:
This exactly...

Go take a diamond and try to scratch it. It wont be easy. (hardness)

Take a hammer to that same diamond... I bet you will be able to split it somewhere (brittle)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dennelly:
I just got my S4 and a put a regular little case on it..I'm hoping to not have these problems being as though my Razr took a beating !!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blackhand1001:
There's a thread like this in every device forum. For the most part its posted by a person who go it unlucky and the device was dropped at an angle that cracked the screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JamesPumaEnjoi:
Did any of these people (including yourself) have a screen protector on it? Even the cheap Anti-Scratch 3 for $12 have saved me numerous times its like putting that film on your windshield so it doesn't shatter
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bizack:
Ghost glass, is the way to go...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jhitesma:
Well, this is my 4th smartphone. I bought cases for the first 3 and after a week of using them in the case ditched the case on all of them because the cases just drove me crazy...besides I had insurance on the phone so I figured I'd live dangerously and pay the price if I had to. All 3 of those phone were dropped more times than I can count and even tossed across a room landing on hard tile once or twice (not on purpose mind you, just lost my grip pulling it out of a pocket and it went flying kind of things.) My last phone (and Incredible2) has a dent in the side from one hit it took. No screen protector no case...they took hits no problems.

Ok - I will admit that my first smartphone (a Samsung Omnia) the screen did get scratched something horrible after I gave up on the screen protector near the end of it's life...and it's camera was basically useless for the last 6 months I had it due to scratches on the lens.

And I'll admit that I did use a Zagg protector on my Inc2 for the first 11 months or so. But eventually it started to come loose and I decided to go without and didn't get a single scratch on it even though I forgot and put it in the same pocket as my keys a few times and it had a few drops and other poor handling.

But after just 4 days with the S4 on a small drop (already described above) the screen cracked since there just isn't anything between the edge of the glass and the outside world on these newest designs. Yes, there is a tiny bit of plastic...but it's a far cry from the bezels of previous generation of phones that provided a good solid buffer between the outside world and the phone.

So now I'm in a case and my thin sexy new phone is as thick and boxy as the phone it replaced...not to mention wider and taller (though that's not the cases fault.)

I guess my big complaint is that I don't really want a HUGE screen, I'd have been happy with something a little bigger than my Inc2 but not nearly as big as the S4. I'd rather have the longer battery from not driving such a huge screen/backlight and the extra protection of a bit of bezel over a giant screen that goes edge to edge. But the only phones you can get that in just don't have the power and features of the S4 and ONE.

I'd love to see more phones that offer top of the line performance but with more reasonable screens and sturdier construction. But the race right now seems to be who can make it the biggest and eliminate the bezel most. Give it a few more years...screens will be gone and google glass style interfaces will be the norm. Then we'll have a happy world with screens that look huge but are just virtual and the guts are well protected. Until then I'm stuck with a case again. And cracks on my screen until I decide I'm sick of them and pony up for the insurance deductible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
There's a YouTube video of a guy dropping an s3 in a otter box defender off his roof onto concrete. Phone was fine until it was faced with a 50ft drop. Screen stopped working but rest of phone was fine.

For those who drop there phone a lot the 50$ case may just be worth it.

FYI the built it screen protector is crap. I removed mine and used my own
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] coldhardtruth:
12 page thread about another doosh that drops their phone and blames the manufacturer? :rolleyes:

You people need a life
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ryanguy426:
For the win

Otterbox bro :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kronbonnaroo:
They did use Gorilla glass. The 3rd incarnation of it as a matter of fact. My suggestion, be more mindful of your 600-700+ device that sits in your pocket. Thats the best defense against a broken screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Andrew Redmond:
A protective case is a must for new release cell phones now, they tend to choose fragile glass to let the phones more beautiful, perhaps future cellphones will be made of chinas, lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] noahthedominator:
In the end it all comes down to weather you have a case or not. I have dropped my s4 screen down onto gravel and no scratches. I have also dropped it onto concrete face down and it didnt crack or scratch at all. And yes of course i have a case. It is glass and glass unfortunately shatters. Not trying to sound like an as5 but if you buy a $600 smartphone then pay 15 dollars to protect it. Simple as that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DrSadistic:
Couldn't agree more with this post. When I recieved my S4, my first trip was to Wal-Mart, where I purchased the Camo Otterbox case. I wouldn't have a phone without a case. Just saying I'd rather pay 50 to 60 bucks for a case then 100 for the insurance claim.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] coolhands4:
Speck candy shell or caseless with the wireless charging back cover. Dropped a few times with no problems...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] and1grad:
Mine has always had a case and has only ever been dropped twice...on a carpeted floor...from a bedside table. Neither drop produced a scratch. The glass has a scratch on it now from Idontknowwhat. Only thing I didnt buy is a screen protector since I thought "gorilla glass" wouldnt need one.

But everyone who has a scratch GOTTA BE careless right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Painterface:
Knowing 3 or 4 people that have broken their phone screen is pretty rare, and it's even rarer that it's the same phone.

So something is up. I'm guessing a block of phones in your area are defect or you just have rowdy crazy friends :silly:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] williamweaver:
Roocase bumper. It fits with the wireless charging back also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] anash5289:
My fiance and myself both have had the s4 since release. I have not yet dropped mine but have seen her drop the s4 at least ten time from multiple heights on varying surfaces and there is barely a scratch on hers. With no case. I am thinking that maybe this is a quality control issue rather than a "this effects everyone issue".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] noahthedominator:
Or if you dont have insurance n your device then 600.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] samiamapirate:
Seriously...

Should have bought an otter box. Especially if you plan on bringing your phone to a concert. Use it at home when you want that sleek thin feel in your hand. Just remember - gravity happens!:laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kchitown1977:
Otter box just saved my phone 3 foot drop. Commuter case

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] imablackhat:
Anyone want an all black defender? Don't use it anymore. Only used for a week. Pm me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] puffingonj:
Mine cracked while I was sleeping lol. Woke up top right corner cracked
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] coldhardtruth:
:rolleyes:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Pixelation:
Confirmed!!!

Dropped from Chair to concrete, face down...

Gorilla Glass 3 my a$$...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] senatortom:
The only thing that seems fragile about this phone to me is the back cover. It also gets greasy very easily.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tco05:
Dropped mine with a Spigen glas.t screen protector and a Spigen Ultra fit case... face down from about knee height... screen is fine but the digitizer is busted...

It's like, what are the chances...

Anyone have any advice on DIY repairs or places to send it away to to get it fixed?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joefrog1996:
Otterbox box defender is a great case. Offers the best protection against drops period. But the best part is that you will never drop it. The grip is amazing!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] makni01:
Well add me to this list. I dropped the phone from 3 inches high (yes 3 inches) on tile - and I had a caseology case on it.

Now the screen won't turn on.

Extremely fragile confirmed at least for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bjbinc:
gorilla glass is scratch resistant...not shatter proof. As was stated earlier in the thread...to prevent scratching, you require harder glass which unfortunately has the side effect of shattering more easily. Shatter resistant glass is softer and more flexible, but scratches more easily. Personally, I'd rather have harder, scratch resistant glass and just not drop my phone (or put it in a case as others have said)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DrSadistic:
I second this. Scratching a phone seems so much easier to do than dropping it, just my experience. I would like to add that my note 2 has experienced a fall or two in its day and doesn't even have a ding in it. It's been kept in an Otterbox since the day I got my hands on it, but it makes me wonder if the screens are different in the two devices.

Sent from my super powered Note II!