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[Android Software Development] flither:
My SoundMagic e10 profile (using Jet Audio Player)

Time flies by, and my tuning of e10's also goes further.

My newest profile for Viper and Jet Audio Plus Player ONLY.

You will hear things that you never heard before with this earphones. Still surprising earphones after 3 years of usage :good::good::good:

Viper (turn on only these effects):

1. MASTER POWER: On

4. SPECTRUM EXTENSION: On

(ii) Strength: 4

6. CONVOLVER: On

(ii) Impulse Response: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=60424781&postcount=1047, my humble work :angel:

7. FIELD SURROUND: On

(i) Select Field Surround Strength: 4

(ii) Select Mid Image Strength: 8

11. DYNAMIC SYSTEM: On

(i) Select Listening Device: Unknown Type IV

(ii) Select Dynamic Bass: 16%

13. FIDELITY CONTROL:

(i) Enable ViPER Bass: On

Select Bass Mode: Natural

Select Bass Frequency: 78Hz

Select Bass Boost: 6dB

(ii) Enable ViPER Clarity: On

Select Clarity Mode: Ozone+

Select Clarity: 3.5dB

15. MASTER GATE (Limiter):

(i) Output Gain: -6.0 dB

(ii) Channel Pan: 0.5/0.5

(iii) Limit Threshold: 0dB

Settings for Jet Audio Plus Player:

In jetAudio Sound Effects turn off AGC.

Turn on AM3D and turn on "Z-bass" and "Z-Treble" (put Z-bass on 12 and Z-treble on 20).

Turn on Bongiovi DPS and choose "Westone W1" next to headphones icon.

Enjoy the crystal an powerful sound, it may be shocking at first, but give it some time or reduce some effects :)

EDIT 1 : I'm using bi-flange tips, so if you're using different ones your results may vary Make sure you put the earphones little bit "up" your head, not straight, this ensures full bass enjoyment

EDIT 2: No, there's not too much bass in this settings. This phones can take a huge bass without sacrificing the clarity of music. Try " The Dark Knight Rising Soundtrack" for example. It will sound like in the cinema, it will "crush your skull", but your actual skull will stay intact ;)

Try it and let me know.
[Android Software Development] flither:
no SoundMagic e10 users here? alright, I'm keeping my sound for myself then :(
[Android Software Development] DingoDingo:
Thanks [MENTION=5605175]flither[/MENTION], I am using your irs and it is great, e10 sounds great but I have little bit different configuration, using XHiFi, Dolby Atmos (sometimes) and xtremeBeats so need to play with JetAudiio a little bit.

Thanks again☺
[Android Software Development] flither:
Thanks for using my irs mate, I'm happy :good: I was using Dolby Atmos for couple of months, but I realized it gives too many distortions to the sound. I haven't tried xTreme beats yet, but anyway - I don't feel to use anything more now, I just found my perfect sound.

If you will get bored with your config, than try mine in the future ;)
[Android Software Development] DingoDingo:
Sometimes simpler is better, on next room flash I will try without xTremeBeats, but it is hard for me to leave XHiFi. Thanks again?
[Android Software Development] OmerElbaz:
I'm using your profile along with your irs, but without jetAudio.

I've downloaded it and it sounded bad. I don't know what to say but it just was bad in a lot of ways.

Anyway.. in Spotify and Shuttle+ it sounds AMAZING and it's my new favorite (and I've tried a lot of profiles until now, still this is my new fav!).

Hi, I have a question, how's the XHiFi version is? is it good?

I thought it's no longer in development.. Should I try it? What's the differences?

Sorry for my English guys :P
[Android Software Development] DingoDingo:
Using 2.1.0.2 version, even it is not in development any more still working on 5.1.1.

I am using only Audio reconstruct / Lo contour. For now it is 50 but you can try other value.

Try it, it is only few minutes of your time.
[Android Software Development] OmerElbaz:
How do I install it if I already have the FX version installed? does the zip un-installs previous versions?
[Android Software Development] DCOCH13:
I listen to all genres of music and have a few profiles that I like and have left alone or tweaked. Problem is, I can't find a profile or tweak one for country music. Always either to much low end or too much high. Can't seem to find a balance. Any suggestions?
[Android Software Development] They Drew First Blood:
FX 2.2.1.1 Android 4.2.2 In-Ear-Phones

OK I am back with another profile I have been fiddling with for the past week- this seems to be another great all-around profile. (I downgraded to Android 4.2.2 due to instability with 4.3...) Funny, I hit on something that I love listening to, then go for something completely new and find something else I totally love listening to; I tried to go for a profile that would fill out the sound a bit on my earphones, without straying too far from the way the albums I listen to have been engineered/produced, and here is the result. [MENTION=4877037]BSDgeek_Jake[/MENTION] posted some IRS samples in his thread here and I particularly like the "BBE 2" sample.

V4A FX only:

1. Master Power: ✔

2. Playback Gain Control: ✔

- Select Effect Strength: Slight

- Max Gain: 3x

- Max Output: 0 dB

3. FIREqualizer: ✘

4. Convolver: ✔

- Impulse Response: BBE 2.irs

5. Field Surround: ✘

6. Differential Surround: ✘

7. Headphone Surround +: ✘

8. Reverberation: ✘

9. Dynamic System:✘

10. Fidelity Control:✔

- Enable ViPER Bass: ✔

- Select Bass Mode: Pure Bass+

- Select Bass Frequency: 40Hz

- Select Bass Boost: 3.5 dB

- Enable ViPER Clarity:✔

- Select Clarity Mode: XHiFi

- Select Clarity: 6.0dB

11. Auditory System Protection (Cure Tech+): ✔

- Select Binaural Level: Moderate

12. Master Gate (Limiter)

- Output Gain: 2.3 dB

- Channel Pan: 0.5 : 0.5

- Limit Threshold: 0 dB

If you'd like less high end, reduce the ViPER Clarity dB value or disable it. If you're looking for more low end, try to raise the ViPER Bass frequency and Bass Boost dB values, and maybe enable the Dynamic System and start at 0dB and go up from there. I really am loving this profile, hope you do too and happy tweaking :)
[Android Software Development] DCOCH13:
I'm going to give the 2 profiles you have posted a try. Hopefully one of them will either work or be close enough for me to tweak.
[Android Software Development] They Drew First Blood:
Re: country profile

Try the second one first- the one with the BBE 2 irs sample- I think the first has much more bass. :fingers-crossed:
[Android Software Development] kingofnice:
P.S. Carnage Profile is built for HTC Devices with Beats Audio disabled. This is why the bass is high on other phones.
[Android Software Development] They Drew First Blood:
Re: BBE2 profile

At the moment I am running this BBE 2.irs profile I posted above with the ViPER Clarity dB set to "Default" rather than 6dB, and raised the volume a bit to fill out the mid-low end a bit more. There are just so many ways to affect the sound with the ViPER mod. I love it.

I am also using this hack by [MENTION=5122557]HeadFox[/MENTION] to change the default 15 step volume adjustment to 30 steps, which fine tunes the volume control of the device so the volume doesn't make as big a leap each time I increase/decrease it.

:good::good:
[Android Software Development] john291:
+1

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Here is my try for the htc one speaker with beats off...

Here is the file put it in your profile map on your Phone...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dremddrhy29r1ym/best beats off speaker.prf
[Android Software Development] Sc4ryB3ar:
I have try to make a good profile that bounces me between my car speakers and my headphones, annnd sounds good with Crystal Method, Eminem, Garth Brooks, and Beethoven.....great vocals, good mids, really decent bass.....snares are little punchy.... haven't quite got that down yet (would be happy to know if someone can modify my profile to make that happen)...I think after 4 months, I've gotten super close to what I'm looking for, and decided to share.

https://db.tt/U9UtXKVy

Convolver: XPERIA S.Enhance Rev3 EQ 6.Easy listening

I am using a kernel that supports faux sound, and do have the faux sound app, I have it set to 'Quality'. (Those DOES make a difference!

And i have the 30 step media sound mid for aosp 4.3

running slimbean 4.3 build 1, with ktoonzes kernel on a SGS4 jflteatt.
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
hey everyone, just seeing if someone can give me some ideas for this. i have a civic si with factory speakers and an infinity basslink. i'm looking for a good setup that allows for good clarity but also good bass response. anyone have a setup already done that works well in a car? i tried the profile from They Drew First Blood, and the sound clarity was great but bass was lacking completely.

edit: i do listen to alot of rap/hip-hop music and a bit of rock too
[Android Software Development] Sc4ryB3ar:
Have you given mine a try in the post above yours?
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
What are you supposed to do with the download you provided?
[Android Software Development] Sc4ryB3ar:
Put it in the profile folder. Which is: *your SD card location*/ViPER4Android/kernel. Then open V4A app and select menu then select load profile. But make sure you save your profile first.....

The convolver I use is a paid one from zhuhang, but the free rev2 series should work decently.

Also, does your kernel support faux sound, if so make sure to get his app and set it on 'quality' if you haven't already...
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
Ah, cool. Didn't know that. I'll give it a try tomorrow and see how it sounds. Thanks for the help.
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
Your profile only works for the phone speaker. I would needa profile for the headset unless i can somehow use the same settings?

Edit: nevermind, I'm an idiot. I figured it out. You have to be on the headset tab to load it there
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
Wow, thank you for taking the time to put all that information down. I really appreciate it. Can't wait to give it a go. Thanks again.
[Android Software Development] They Drew First Blood:
Hip-hop profile

Here, try this profile as a starting point too. Anything not in the list just disable. This profile makes, for example, Jay Z's new album MCHG slam without drowning out the vocal delivery.

V4A FX only:

1. Master Power: ✔

2. Playback Gain Control: ✔

- Select Effect Strength: Moderate

- Max Gain: 6x

- Max Output: 0.0 dB

4. Convolver: ✔

- Impulse Response: BBE 2.irs (from [MENTION=4877037]BSDgeek_Jake[/MENTION] IRS thread here)

9. Dynamic System:✔

- Select Listening Device: High-end Headphone (v2)

- Select Dynamic Bass: 3 Percent

10. Fidelity Control:✔

- Enable ViPER Bass: ✔

- Select Bass Mode: Pure Bass+

- Select Bass Frequency: 60Hz

- Select Bass Boost: 6.0 dB

12. Master Gate (Limiter)

- Output Gain: 2.3 dB

- Channel Pan: 0.5 : 0.5

- Limit Threshold: 0 dB
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
Thank you :)
[Android Software Development] t1.8matt:
This profile worked great! Gave me the right amount of bass and clarity.
[Android Software Development] Spunjah413:
Any have recommendations for an EDM profile? Listening to a lot of bassey dubstep stuff.
[Android Software Development] DingoDingo:
There is no recovery version, expand zip and install as a normal apk, doesn't have nothing to do with FX. It is a separate application, use FX as you used before.
[Android Software Development] OmerElbaz:
Ooh cool thanks, I'll give it a shot :)
[Android Software Development] iceman0826:
SoundMagic E10S Profile

After years of use, my stock Galaxy S3 has been in pretty bad shape but still works though :D So one day I decided to buy the SoundMagic E10S and tune my V4A to properly drive the SoundMagic E10S. I temporarily ditched the eXtremebeats since it made v4a tuning a little harder.

I used Morphine.vdc + TruTheathre Surround Headphone Live Room.irs

I Enabled ViPER Clarity + Natural + 11.0dB (to compensate, or adjust it according to your taste.)

and the rest of the settings are disabled.

Give it a try to those who use SoundMagic E10S.

I gave up on using different audio mods since I can achieve the same effect using Viper4Android + Xhifi alone. And also this way I can avoid any FC's I might encounter by flashing these "audio mods".

thanks to [MENTION=1028003]churapa[/MENTION] for the Morphine.vdc and Oxycontin.vdc (I feel like an addict now :p)

thanks to [MENTION=5014976]jmxc23[/MENTION] for the TruTheathre Surround Headphone Live Room.irs :good:

I went back to the previous posts and found these gems which I used in creating this simple but awesome sounding profile especially made for SoundMagic E10S :D
[Android Software Development] fraz14:
Hi guys, this is my Profile. Clear sound and impacting bass.

FX:

1. MASTER POWER: √

(ii) Force Enable V4A

2. PLAYBACK CONTROL GAIN: √

(ii) Select Effect Strength: Extreme

(iii) Max Gain: 6x

(iv) Max Output: o

3. VIPER-DDC:

(ii) Listening Device:

4. SPECTRUM EXTENSION: √

(ii) Strength: 0.4

5. FIREQUALIZER:

(ii) Select Preset:

6. CONVOLVER: √

(ii) Impulse Response: beats_solo+beats.irs

(iii) Cross Chanel 5 Percent

7. FIELD SURROUND: √

(i) Select Field Surround Strength: Extreme

(ii) Select Mid Image Strength: Extreme

8. DIFFERENTIAL SURROUND: √

(i) Select Delay Time: 14 ms

9. HEADPHONE SURROUND +: √

(i) Select Effect Quality: Level 2

10. REVERBERATION: √

(i) Room Size: 49m2

(ii) Sound Field: 10m

(iii) Damping Factor: 80 Percent

(iv) Wet Signal: 20 Percent

(v) Dry Signal: 60 Percent

11. DYNAMIC SYSTEM: √

(i) Select Listening Device: Unknown Type IV

(ii) Select Dynamic Bass: 16 Percent

12. TUBE SIMULATOR (6N1J):

13. FIDELITY CONTROL:

(i) Enable ViPER Bass: √

Select Bass Mode: Natural Bass

Select Bass Frequency: 78 Hz

Select Bass Boost: 13.0 dB

(ii) Enable ViPER Clarity: √

Select Clarity Mode: Natural

Select Clarity: 10.0 dB

14. AUDITORY SYSTEM PROTECTION:

(ii) Select Binaural Level:

15. MASTER GATE (Limiter):

(i) Output Gain: 2.3 dB

(ii) Channel Pan: 0.5 : 0.5

(iii) Limit Threshold: 0 dB
[Android Software Development] vhsantos1:
Hello. Can you share The saved profile file please? Tks in advanced

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Can you share profile file please? Tks in advanced
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
So you are saying that you are incapable of implementing this setup yourself?
[Android Software Development] vhsantos1:
I like to switch betewen profile acording to music and if its speaker, headphones and that. But its OK. I will do it my self. Tks again for sharing
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
Here's my profile for you to try. I've reverted back to using DFX Hip Hop Modern IRS for ReHeaR BRA1 & v4a on Lollipop and XTREMEMusic 4.4.4 r2 on Marshmallow. Also, a couple other minor edits. Enjoy.
[Android Software Development] skivnit:
Is the a flashable zip or..?

Sent from my SM-G925F
[Android Software Development] gargleblarg:
[MENTION=4652329]skivnit[/MENTION] No, extract and put files in appropriate place.
[Android Software Development] shegeloaf:
Where would I put the files because there are two different types
[Android Software Development] gargleblarg:
In your internal storage go to viper4android>

.irs files go in kernel folder

Audiophile folder containing .xml goes in profile folder
[Android Software Development] IaKnightHawke:
Can you clarify where the profile folder is Located?
[Android Software Development] gargleblarg:
Here you go, pm me if you have more questions
[Android Software Development] IaKnightHawke:
OK, thank you. Sending you a p.m.
[Android Software Development] D_Rail:
My profile for the new Puscifer album. I am using a Canadian S6 and Kicker HP541TJ Headphones http://www.amazon.com/Kicker-HP541T...=1447538557&sr=8-6&keywords=kicker+headphones

FX:

1. MASTER POWER: √

(ii) Force Enable V4A

2. PLAYBACK CONTROL GAIN: disabled

(ii) Select Effect Strength: n/a

(iii) Max Gain: n/a

(iv) Max Output: n/a

3. VIPER-DDC:

(ii) Listening Device:

4. SPECTRUM EXTENSION: disabled

(ii) Strength:

5. FIREQUALIZER: enabled

(ii) Select Preset: custom

6. CONVOLVER: √

(ii) Impulse Response: Fender Bassman.irs

(iii) Cross Channel 15 Percent

7. FIELD SURROUND: disabled

(i) Select Field Surround Strength:

(ii) Select Mid Image Strength:

8. DIFFERENTIAL SURROUND: disabled

(i) Select Delay Time:

9. HEADPHONE SURROUND +: √

(i) Select Effect Quality: Level 5

10. REVERBERATION: disabled

(i) Room Size:

(ii) Sound Field:

(iii) Damping Factor:

(iv) Wet Signal:

(v) Dry Signal:

11. DYNAMIC SYSTEM: √

(i) Select Listening Device: Extreme Headphones v2

(ii) Select Dynamic Bass: 20 Percent

12. TUBE SIMULATOR (6N1J):

13. FIDELITY CONTROL:

(i) Enable ViPER Bass: √

Select Bass Mode: Subwoofer

Select Bass Frequency: 30 Hz

Select Bass Boost: 8.0 dB

(ii) Enable ViPER Clarity: disabled

Select Clarity Mode: Natural

Select Clarity: 10.0 dB

14. AUDITORY SYSTEM PROTECTION:

(ii) Select Binaural Level:

15. MASTER GATE (Limiter):

(i) Output Gain: 0 dB

(ii) Channel Pan: 0.5 : 0.5

(iii) Limit Threshold: 0 dB
[Android Software Development] vegetaleb:
Did that but V4A couldn't load any new profiles, if I save my personal profile it will save it to another unknown folder :eek:
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
/data/media/legacy/ViPER4Android/
[Android Software Development] auriculogenesis:
Is it just me or does the latest SoundCloud app not work with V4A?
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
Delete deep buffer paragraph from /system/etc/audio_policy.conf if found.
[Android Software Development] auriculogenesis:
Bingo, that did the trick. Speaker optimization sounds like it's being run through a muddy lo-pass filter lol... better than stock I guess.
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
I'm puzzled - I've got Viper4A installed and Processing = Yes - I copied the irs files to SD/Viper4A/Kernel - But when I try to apply an irs profile to Impulse Response - I get a message that Storage/Emulated/Legacy/Viper4A/Kernel is empty - It's clearly not because I can see several that are exactly there using Root Explorer - This is on my Nexus 7 running Octos 6.0 MM.... Any ideas would be appreciated :)

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
Have you tried /data/media/legacy/ViPER4Android/?

Save any profile as "TEST" and find where it saves.
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
No I hadn't - But Many Thanks - That worked! ???

Sent From my SM-N910W8 Running SlimRemix V5.3
[Android Software Development] mazzeldiaz:
My V4A Profile on Samsung Galaxy S4 i9500 using stock music player paired with LG HBS 730 Bluetooth headset. This is for basshead/bass lover purpose.

1. MASTER POWER: enabled

(ii) Force Enable V4A : enabled

2. PLAYBACK CONTROL GAIN: enabled

(ii) Select Effect Strength: Slight

(iii) Max Gain: 4x

(iv) Max Output: -1.9 dB

3. VIPER-DDC: disabled

(ii) Listening Device:

4. SPECTRUM EXTENSION: enabled

(ii) Strength: 0.1

5. FIREQUALIZER: enabled

(ii) Select Preset: Classical

6. CONVOLVER: enabled

(ii) Impulse Response: BBE Generic Preset 3.irs

(iii) Cross Chanel : 0 Percent

7. FIELD SURROUND: disabled

(i) Select Field Surround Strength:

(ii) Select Mid Image Strength:

8. DIFFERENTIAL SURROUND: disabled

(i) Select Delay Time:

9. HEADPHONE SURROUND +: enabled

(i) Select Effect Quality: Level 2

10. REVERBERATION: disabled

(i) Room Size:

(ii) Sound Field:

(iii) Damping Factor:

(iv) Wet Signal:

(v) Dry Signal:

11. DYNAMIC SYSTEM: enabled

(i) Select Listening Device: unknown Type II

(ii) Select Dynamic Bass: 10 Percent

12. TUBE SIMULATOR (6N1J): enabled

13. FIDELITY CONTROL:

(i) Enable ViPER Bass: enabled

Select Bass Mode: natural Bass

Select Bass Frequency: 40 Hz

Select Bass Boost: 3.5 dB

(ii) Enable ViPER Clarity: enabled

Select Clarity Mode: XHIFI

Select Clarity: 6.0 db

14. AUDITORY SYSTEM PROTECTION: enabled

(ii) Select Binaural Level: Moderate

15. MASTER GATE (Limiter):

(i) Output Gain:

(ii) Channel Pan:

(iii) Limit Threshold:

That's it... enjoy!
[Android Software Development] venelar:
I have a pair of jaybird bluebuds x, is there a similar "listening device" that i can choose since they aren't an option?
[Android Software Development] shaggyskunk:
Probably the best way to find out what's similar - Is to Google: jaybird blue x comparison

That should give you some comparable listening devices

Sent From My SM-N910W8 Running CMRemix 6.01
[Android Software Development] beautifulsun:
Some good profile for Audio Technica M50x?
[Android Software Development] CLE4LiFE:
Anyone have a good profile for Trap?
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
:good:
[Android Software Development] stueycaster:
Check out this profile. I strengthened the reverb a little and cranked down the gain some so there shouldn't be any hissing. At least I don't get any.

FX:

Master Power: ✔

Playback Gain Control: ✘

Viper DDC - X

Spectrum Extension - X

FIREqualizer: ✔

Select Preset: Custom (see image)

Convolver: ✔

Impulse Response: TruTheatre Surround Headphone Live Room.irs

Field Surround: ✘

Differential Surround X

Headphone Surround +: ✔

Effect Level - 2

Reverberation: ✔

Room size - 49m2

Sound Field - 10m

Damping Factor - 80%

Wet Signal - 20%

Dry Signal - 60%

Dynamic System: ✔

Listening Device - unknown type 2

Dynamic Bass - 14%

Fidelity Control:

Viper Bass: ✔

Bass Mode: Natural Bass

Bass Frequency: 78Hz

Select Bass Boost: 14.0 dB

Viper Clarity: ✘

Clarity Mode: Natural

Select Clarity: 6.0

Auditory System Protection ✘

Master Gate (Limiter)

Output Gain: -10.5dB

Channel Pan - 0.5 - 0.5

Limit Threshold - 0dB

Then I also use Dolby Atmos for nothing but a little extra surround. My earphones give a fairly balanced sound so this setup gives me a pretty balanced sound with a bit of a fat bottom, wide separation and a pretty decent ring. If your earphones are naturally bassy this profile will probably be pretty boomy. Anyway give it a try if you like. I hope you like it. ☺

In case you need the TruTheater irs.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Android Software Development] themoto:
[MENTION=4224060]stueycaster[/MENTION],this one is a littlebit different then the one i use from u i think for sure i'm going to try.

SS is the one i use from you and hope you don't mind i posted

that one once in [MENTION=4445176]guitardedhero[/MENTION] 's nexus 6 ViperAtmos thread.

But with your name.

I think he don't remember.
[Android Software Development] stueycaster:
I put that there for anybody to do whatever they want with it. There have always been people in here that don't understand how to use Viper. Hopefully someone can get a starting point to build on.

The only real change in my latest is I set the Wet Signal in the Reverb to 20% so that it can actually be heard. Also the new Viper that just came out just improved what I already had.

Sent from my SM-N910V DE
[Android Software Development] themoto:
Thanks

I'm using Viper/Atmos Sony Beats with your TruTheathre Surround Headphone Live Room irs.The best sound i ever had.

You can try it from here

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/viper4android-t2952137
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
You mean like forgot to post in the User Content Area? If so, I totally missed it. Please tepost in the thread exactly how you want me to post it. :good:
[Android Software Development] themoto:
No no that's not what i mean i only want to say that i posted an irs file from stueycaster and that i always use it.For me it's the best irs i ever used.

How can i place the new kernel thruTheathre Surround Headphone irs files because i have the old one there with the same name.so it ask me to overwright it but i want them all. I had the same problem with your Audiophile 2.0 profile it overwright all the kernel files with the Audiophile 2.0 so i lost 1.0

sorry for asking.
[Android Software Development] guitardedhero:
No worries, I wanted to be sure I addressed what may have been forgotten. The IRS files are likely the same, I know for a fact the DFX IRS files that overwrote the previous ones are identical. The same is likely the case with TruTheatre. You can always compare MD5 when unsure. :good: