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[AT&T HTC One (M7)] whitetiger_0603:
True story, that does down shady. But if any of your charges and fees change, even the slightest, you have grounds to fight back. You signed a contract to be charged a certain amount every month.. Fees included. If they change the fees. They change the contract.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] joshuadjohnson22:
Of course, but as to this moment I do not know of any current changes to our bill. The 0.61 was last month and past 30 days you are stuck with the change. But if anyone find any charges let us all know.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] nkgangew:
No. What that statement means is that you cant use a tablet or mifi line to upgrade a smartphone and vise-versa. Everyone fear not, you can still take your parents upgrades lol.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
I've been waiting for his response. The deal was if he can't find evidence then he'll have to stick a watermelon up his butt. Maybe he didn't survive the procedure. It was supposed to be a joke, hope he didn't take it seriously.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] nkgangew:
I'm a corp employee for AT&T. When I made this thread I actually had to.edit my first post because I didn't realize that at the time it was still proprietary information . Anyways, for the interest of not putting my job at risk, I.can tell you that you can.still use other peoples upgrades, even if they're non smartphone. And we haven't had any word as to whether there will.be any program that subsidizes phones. So there you go. This guy owes you lol.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
Did you hear that Crylon? A deals a deal. You have to put a watermelon up your butt.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SKyRocKeting727:
You would think that the faster we can upgrade, the faster people get locked in to the contract which is what AT&T wants. So why delay it to an additional 4 months? It doesn't make much sense to me. Would anyone care to explain how this benefits AT&T?

Sent from the Hottest Phone of 2013 (HTC One)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
They don't have to subsidize the last 4 months of your phone I'm guessing. So pretty much they're hoping you're coming back at 24 months after you have made enough money to pay off that smartphone you got for $200 by profiting them money before you get another $200 that is also subsidized.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] CheesyNutz:
LOL @ the raging people
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] its_dale:
no big deal.. just gotta wait an extra 4 months (it was technically a 24 month upgrade anyway).. im sticking with att because they let us keep our unlimited AND get the phone at a discounted price. Until they copy Verizon and not let us keep the Unlimited w/upgrades, im sticking with ATT. Never have service issues.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] xnknown:
well technically u can proll get an ATT upgrade earlier then 20 months if you tried, all you have to do is chat a couple of times to find the right person and walla
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] P05TMAN:
Meh :rolleyes: .....what's four months? Really, it's not like an additional year...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] akfritz:
Doesn't seem like a good policy for them. .. Often the only thing locking me into at&t is because I keep upgrading before my contract ends. Now if I have to wait a full 2 years until my contract ends... It doesn't cost me anything extra to switch carriers, there's no financial incentive to stay with at&t if I'm already out of contract.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ac3kill:
Man **** att that's crap they can do that when were already in a contract not

Renewing att now lol and I was trippin over prepaids getting lte butnow this sprint or tmobile it is !
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] KD8DNS:
Exactly!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] cschmitt:
I bet if you told them you where going to ditch ATT 4 months before the contract expired they'd upgrade you on the spot. There's always been discretion in that area.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] HTCFAN0923:
I have 5 lines and have been with AT&T since 2006. Safe to say that I'm glad three of my contracts expired already and the other two expire in September. T-Mobile LTE is already up here in NYC and I love what they are trying to do in the industry. As much ad I enjoy owning the greatest piece of wireless real estate (aka a grandfatherred unlimited data plan on 3 of my lines)...this is ngettinf ridiculous...

---------- Post added at 11:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 AM ----------

Because of my longtime standing and being the primary line for 5 smartphone lines, I got upgraded every 12 months so yeah, the jump to 24 is a HUGE deal to me...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
4 months is 4 months. Add those up after a few contracts. Let me reverse the question, what's wrong with getting to upgrade 4 months early?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] P05TMAN:
Nothing, except that it's not reality.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
But it was for ATT and it still is with other carriers like Verizon and Sprint.

Let me explain to you why people are upset. Some people might be stuck in a bubble where their upgrades are at the beginning of the year. All Flagship phones have been coming out the beginning to the middle of summer. Being capable of upgrading 4 months in advance lets them enjoy their device when it just comes out as a Flagship device versus getting their device and something sadly comes out a in the next 5 months. This can cause a dilemma of having to just upgrade now or wait 5 months for a device that only rumors circulate around it. And if you choose to upgrade now, you're stuck in that same bubble 2 years later. None of this would have happened if ATT let you upgrade 4 months earlier like they used to.

Conclusion: 4 month early upgrades = awesome. Taking it away = not awesome.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] shook187:
I say pay full price for your phone and go prepay, problem solved. Overall you save more money anyway doing it this way.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
So I pay $3200 for 5 new phones

Plus $250 for service and I can stop any time

Or I pay $1000 up front and $250 a month for 2 years... Where is the part when I get the extra $2200 I spent above back?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Nick281051:
Except you wouldn't be paying $250 if you go prepaid
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
Show me less than $50 a line

Unlimited txt talk and 6 gig data

Plus wifi hotspot
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Nick281051:
I guess I read that wrong, what I meant was, pre paid is going to cost less than postpaid just about every time
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
it only works out on single plans

when you have family plans it just don't add up

with the extra I would have to dish out on phone's the service would need to be free for 10 months to make it up.

I have heard people talk about straight talk ($45) and t mobile ($50) being cheaper but it never works out for us.

In the past 6 years I have

7 Iphone - 3GS/4/4S

2 Samsung Galaxy s2 and a captivate and an HTC Aria .. I think that covers them all

Plus we have 3 upgrades coming up in September ... the fun never ends
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Nick281051:
Ah I see
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] P05TMAN:
So you can wait. I did ( I waited 4 months after my upgrade eligibility) and got an awesome HTC one....if I hadn't waited, I would have still had some cool phone options, but it was worth the wait. It's a matter of choice. They don't force you to upgrade when you're eligible. I suspect there would still be complaining even if they never took away the 4 months.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] shook187:
Yeah for a family of 5 it doesn't work out with prepay, also with you exaggerating on paying $3200 on all your devices. I'm sure the only one with top of the line device is probably you while your kids get the dumb texting phones.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
I listed the phones above

my kids are 42 and 22 and 23 ..their not going for dumb phones as you call them

Me - HTC One / SGS2 on shelf /iPhone 3GS - Sold ($200 -32gig)

Wife - iPhone 4 / Iphone 3GS - Sold ($125 -8gig) / HTC Aria - Sold ($100)

Kim - iPhone 4 / SGS2 - Sold ($100)

jeanie - iPhone 4s / Captivate - Sold ($100)

dehart - iPhone 4s / iPhone 4 - Broken

Phones in blue are eligible for upgrade in Sept.

All the sold Phones were near 2 years old - 20 month I guess
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
Of course there would be complaining, but there would be one less thing to complain about. My situation is different. I don't have to wait, I get to upgrade once a year. You asked why people were upset, I think I answered your question.

EDIT: I would also like to add another perk to getting an early upgrade, the resale value of the phone you hold onto declines over time, so those 4 months could mean the difference of $50 to $100 if you sold it before a new flagship is announced. So 4 months might not mean anything to you and it doesn't affect me personally, but to others it does.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] shook187:
Isn't time your kids get their own plan for their own family?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
Maybe they all split it...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] P05TMAN:
I actually DIDN'T ask why people were upset. I don't care because four months is not a big deal as opposed to a year. There was the rhetorical question "what's four months"....might want to re-read that
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] SlimJ87D:
Regardless if it was rhetorical or not, there are NO benefits for the change in plan. Four months might not be a big deal to you and that's great. But just because it works for you doesn't mean others feel that way. End of discussion.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] P05TMAN:
It's really not a big deal. There's always a benefit, whether it's to the customer or not is the question. If people don't like it, oh well. There are more pressing issues to get worked up over than a phone upgrade plan.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Nick281051:
Just because some things are more important than others doesn't mean it isn't still an issue
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] dcunited08:
I have yet to figure out how my wife can save money on her iPhone to switch to prepay. N4 is great for me but my wife likes her iPhone.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] MarkStinger:
I am on the phone with AT&T right now. I have the Galaxy Note bought on March 1, 2012. So I am affected by this to the exact day. :(

However, while talking with them and discussing this new change, they are agreeing to upgrade me today over the phone. My only defense is that my Galaxy Note has been acting up for several months and I have been on the phone with them, in their stores, and chatting via Twitter about it and it still is not right. So that might be what is helping me. But, they are allowing me to purchase the Galaxy S4 at the upgrade price right now so I'm not balking at the offer.

The AT&T rep did confirm that I was out of luck by the one day so that could very well be what is helping me too. Good luck to anyone else that tries this. :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
Why aren't you getting the One?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] joshuadjohnson22:
Att just called me :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] MarkStinger:
To be honest with you the reasons I like the Galaxy S4 are probably minor. Nothing that make these two phones too far away from each other. I really like my Note and up until the phone call today, I had no plans to upgrade to the S4. I like the size of the S4's screen since it is closer to the Note but the phone itself is smaller (which is why I was not going for the Note 2 or Note 3 when that comes out). Overall I like what Samsung offers and after being given the option of moving my upgrade date from March 2014 (was October 2013 until they switched it) to today, I went with what I am familiar with.

...I just realized that this thread is in the HTC One sub forum. :o I was searching for news on AT&T changing their upgrade policy when I stumbled on this thread. :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] clsA:
Ok I'll bite .. why did AT&T Call you ?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] joshuadjohnson22:
To tell me that she was going to let me upgrade early (i was not elegible until mid next year). If you complaint to the right people things happen :) She said I could not get an iPhone
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] bagwell08:
Best approach

I was planning on taking my dad's upgrade because then he could get the new iPhone with my upgrade in October, but then he called and told me i wasn't eligible until march! I called customer service and the lady didn't really help me just said that the policy changed (I knew that) Was wondering what steps I should take to get to someone who will let me upgrade early, what did you guys have success with? especially because at the moment you can get half off with renewal of contract!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] MarkStinger:
Sometimes you have to call multiple times until you get someone that is willing to help. Others follow the policy and will not budge. For me it was part due to the problems I had with my Galaxy Note and what appeared to be an issue with my account. When I logged into my account it looked like someone removed some of my services. They eventually confirmed that all was fine with that but since I had contact with AT&T in May I thought someone screwed up.

I was polite the whole time and I never threatened to cancel but at one point I was transferred to the cancellation department. That's when they started talking about moving my upgrade date back to where it was or to the current day.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] bagwell08:
Update

Well heres the update for today: I called yesterday and got a really nice rep to talk to she even went straight to her supervisor to see if she could override my upgrade date....45 minutes later just to tell me no....I was upset. Im gonna try to call again today, because i have read about them putting a note in accts for managers in the store to override the upgrade. I hope it works!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] xcwjxc:
T-mobile just introduced "Jump" that allows people to upgrade twice a year...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] robstunner:
Yes, but you trade in your phone, pay the new price for the next phone and $10 a month. AND u have to be with t mobile for six months before your first upgrade. So three phones, $99+99+99 plus $240 for two years of $10 a month gets you three basically rented phones for $540 plus tax on top of your monthly plan. Oh, and the $20 no contact payment plan per month
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] designgears:
Just wanted to let you all know, AT&T did let me out of all 5 of my contracts ETF free over the fee and upgrade changes.

I just switched to T-Mobile. You are right, but that is still better than what Verizon and AT&T offer and costs me about $20 less per line a month. T-Mobile uses AT&T towers and is rolling out LTE pretty fast. No lose for me. I have no issues trading in the phone, it saves me the hassle of selling it and worrying about depreciation. So, in the end, probably costing me just as much as AT&T, but I get 4 upgrades in a 2yr period.

That "$20 no contact payment plan" varies based on the phone you get. With AT&T and Verizon that cost is built into your monthly rate. That is why AT&T Next is terrible, they are asking your to pay double subsidy over one year.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] ujj75:
When I open up my storage card folder thru the computer when its sync with the magician...there is a 0kb file on the storage card called ignore_my_docs which somehow cant be removed??What is it for??It is there on the storage folder also.But it cant be seen thru the file explorer.Any suggestions??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] iker3091:
virus

this would disable your phone to recognize your files from the storage card..sort of virus..delete it upon activsync on your pc
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jfrm:
Sort of what?

This is not a virus.

If I remember right this file is to instruct the system to not list the files of the dir in programs like pocket word....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] hanmin:
http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=43039
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] random_username:
I've just updated my S3 to Paranoid Android 3.57 and when I tried to update the f-droid repository I couldn't tap INSTALL on the screen, thought it might be the f-droid's fault for not updating so I downloaded the .apk from their webpage.. and I still cannot hit "install" the cancel button works fine.

I did try to install another package from .apk but I couldn't so here is the thread, also tried different file managers.

Install from unknown sources is checked in settings.

P.S. I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to post this thread, but I've read this statement about the Paranoid Android development page http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=42271154&postcount=4699
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sandeshnl:
Disable Halo, then install the app and it should work.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] random_username:
Yes it worked, Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] gozes:
Hello everyone,

I'm trying to instlla AOKP Nightly and CM0 Nightly for the the Note 2(t-mobile) I'm running in to an issus. It is failling when checking the verstion string for the phone with status 7. The errro makes no seans to me because I'm using the corret rom

any Idea what I maybe doing wrong?

speces

Note 2(T-Mobile)

CWM: 6.0.3.1

Roms: CM10 Nightly AOKP Nightly for T-Mobile Note 2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] gozes:
Any ideas?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] arty93:
You have to change some settings within the ROM if you go to galaxynote2root.com there is a tutorial how to get around this

Hope this helps
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] gozes:
You mean in the stuck rom because because of this error I haven't been able to intall any rom no cm or aokp however I do have CWM installed
[HTC Amaze 4G] TallRiderKy:
My girlfriend liked my HTC Amaze and bugged me until I bought her one. It was a used Amaze I found on Craigslist. It has worked fine for almost a year. She's been having some really weird problems with it and I was planning to dig into fixing it for her. HOWEVER, night before last she dropped the dang phone in a cup of soda. She did get it out almost immediately and took it apart and dried everything off. I'm not too sure she let the phone dry very long, I wasn't there.

Now the phone boots just fine and all the apps appear to work. However, it gets NO BARS. It doesn't matter where we are. I can have 5 bars and 4G connection and her phone shows nadda. So we took the phone in to T-Mobile for some help. The guy was a lot of help and spend a lot of time working with the phone. He even switched sim cards. But eventually he discovered that the phone has been rooted. DANG!!!! So that got dropped quick. Now I have to figure this out for myself.

I really need some suggestions. Obviously the antenna has been affected, right? I have done my research and have learned that the phone actually connects to the back cover to obtain a connection. So I will be double checking that as soon as I get my hands on the phone again. What else should I do?

The android version is now v2.?. We've been trying to update it to v4 and it never would download. Now we know why. I want to restore the phone back to the stock configuration and upgrade the OS but there's no use in that unless I can take care of the connection problem.

Please, please, please someone help me. Otherwise I'll have to go out and buy a new Galaxy III for her. I can't afford that right now.
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
lol your title sounds a lil hahaha anyway all the signal antenna's are in the back door so try a new backdoor?? mite work ther're plenty in ebay
[HTC Amaze 4G] aj_2423:
You can try a new back cover, but tbh, my guess is that it's probably not the problem. When it got wet it probably shorted something out or something. You have to take the battery out immediately, every .01 seconds count. And i wouldnt put the battery back in for like 2 days. Whenever mine gets wet I take out the battery then I try and suck out all of the water or whatever liquid out of the device as I can. Then ill let it sit in the sun for a while. I always waut at least 24 hourse before putting it back I
[HTC Amaze 4G] TallRiderKy:
Yeah, that's certainly what I would have done. Unfortunately I wasn't there when it happened. She claims she immediately got it out. But she was falling asleep when it fell in so I really don't know. She did immediately take it apart and dry it off. But I don't think she was so anxious about it she put it back together to see if it would work. That probably did more damage than getting it wet in the first place.

We both have the same phone. I took the back off my Amaze and still have a good signal. It may have dropped one bar but not completely. It may get a boost on the signal from the back cover but it still works without. So I agree it probably is not going to be fixed by simply replacing the back cover. I'm going to stick my back cover on it this evening just to see what happens, but I think I know.

I am going to research the possibility of replacing the antenna completely. It seems the next logical option. I may also go ahead and take it further apart just to give it the opportunity to dry out. We'll see.

Any further comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TallRiderKy:
You are absolutely right!! LOL.. If it weren't for the cost of replacing the danged thing I would still be laughing. Why is it she wants ME to replace it and hasn't even suggested that SHE should be the one to replace it THIS TIME?????? She is on one of those pay as you go accounts. We were ready to set her up with a 2-year deal just to find they don't exist at T-Mobile any more. You pay full price for any phone now regardless of what sort of account you set up. I don't see doing that for quite a while.

I may be searching eBay for a replacement phone. But I'd like to try a few options with this one first.
[HTC Amaze 4G] chevycowboyusa:
Clean the contacts

if she dropped it in soda, get some rubbing alcohol and a q-tip. clean the contacts very thoroughly. the soda is sticky and can prevent proper contact,

also clean the SIM card contacts on both the card and the phone.
[HTC Amaze 4G] TallRiderKy:
Working Now

I cleaned the back of the phone and the cover this morning with rubbing alcohol then stuck my SIM and SD cards in the phone this morning and turned it on. To my amazement it is now working. What a great sigh of relief!!!!! I have heard nothing but moaning and groaning over this cheap phone I bought my girl until I could resolve this.

So it's off to phase 2 of this adventure. According to the T-Mobile store this phone has been rooted. I've read about it but I know close to nothing about rooting phones. There seems to be as many DIY pages describing how to root or restore a cell phone I am a bit reluctant to get started.

What do I need to look for in restoring this phone? Do I have to find the restore file that matches the Android version on the phone or can I just get the absolute latest one? Which one of these abundance of instructional should I be looking for? What is this about S-On/S-Off? It seems to be important. How do I actually check to verify that this phone has been rooted? I'm just going by someone's comments here.

I'd like to get this completed today. I'm expecting SIGNIFICANT appreciation this evening if I can hand her a working smart phone!!!!

My most enthusiastic and humble appreciation to those who responded. :good:
[HTC Amaze 4G] TallRiderKy:
Been doing some investigations. The phone has super user installed in the aps. It also has 4ext installed. I let the phone download the latest ICS but the install failed.

According to "most" off the forums I have read all I have to do is place the stock image on the root of the external SD card and reboot. Is there anything else I need to worry about?
[HTC Amaze 4G] ravike14:
If your s off just run a ruu and latest firmware then 4ext and flash supersu then you'll have a stable phone :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khaiyan:
The thread says it all really; is it possible to rearrange the icons on the status bar? So for example, can I move the network symbol to the far left, the clock to the centre, etc?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exb0:
Possible? Yes. With some XML magic. But ive never seen anyone rearrange anything except for the clock.

Sent from Halo.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoVeRice:
You can place the time at the center
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khaiyan:
Could you point me in the direction of some 'tutorials' (if such exist)? Thanks
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Khaiyan:
I'm afraid this isn't possible on Paranoid Android.