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[Micromax A110] abhishek120:
touch not responding

after that i flashed it with SP tools

all was done |

but when it started the touch was not responding

how to proceed further :(
[Micromax A110] Sk.D:
Dis u flash jb rom or ics????
[Micromax A110] abhishek120:
yes but problem isnt solved yet:crying:
[Micromax A110] abhishek120:
hey thsnks man :)

u helped me a alot :good::o
[Micromax A110] jaunty:
Flash stock recovery, try reboot.
[Micromax A110] Hovatek:
fixed?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] benitz8:
Newbie here.

I scanned through the forums and after a couple of hours decided to upgrade my ROM to 1.72.187.

Before upgrading I did an xBackup for all data. Then I went ahead and upgraded from ROM 1.60 to 1.72.187, all ok except that all data was gone. So I did a restore from the backup I did previously; but now device information displays ROM as 1.72.00WWE but ExtROM reverted back to 1.60.44. Did I do anything wrong? How do I upgrade including the ExtRom to 1.72.187 and maintain all installed programs and data, without having to reinstall and reencode stuff.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] M4io:
after any upgrade I found that restoring a backup made my Himalaya unstable.

Data isn't the problem, installed programs are.

You just have to install all apps again. At least that is my opinion.

extrom version is in the registry, if you restore the registry extrom version will also be restored.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ZeroXtreme:
I agree with M4io, I noticed that even with Sprite Backup, things dont run as smoothly as they did after a restore. I only backup to be able to restore the device to a fully functional state (even if it does not run as expected) if it ever does a hard reset on me at inconvenient times, after which I purposely do a hard reset and re-sync, reinstall all my software and reconfigure all my personal settings.

Yes, it is very tedious and time consuming, but from my experience at least, its the best way to keep the device in tip-top condition.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] benitz8:
Thanks for your thoughts, M4io & ZeroXtreme. I also ended up deciding to just reinstall everything and reconfigure all my settings. Now everything is running great.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Kurni:
v1.72.187 for AU XDA2?

I know this is a silly question, but after reading most of the threads, I still cannot help it.

I purchased my O2 XDA2 in AU, will the v1.72.187 posted in sourceo2.com work as simple as described in the PDF?

If it will, why does sourceo2.com say that it's only for UK and Ireland users?

Thanks in advance,

Kurni
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Guest:
help

please help

during upgrade my i-mate2020 went blank

and goes to a type of boot up screen says "serial "on top & "v1.06" on bottom

nothing works?

:(
[Nexus 7 General] fish droid:
Simple Media streaming between multi platforms using plex

View attachment 2024812

Simple demo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3fM9VfkqSw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 7 General] slimdizzy:
How about the actual app's site as a link - http://www.plexapp.com.

Plex is well known. They have offerings for everything and since there server started spitting out DLNA ( couple of versions back) you don't need their apps now. Most recent is now AppleTV does not need jail breaking with the newest Plex Connect app.

My setup:

- server is OSX

- Rokus at each TV

- Plex App in all my Android devices

- Plex connect for my ATV2G

I use Subsonic for my music streaming needs as it has more feature just for music and can control the bitrate of the stream ( great for monitoring 3g data usage).
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
This is a topic that I don't think has been covered here yet, but is very important. Especially because we cannot replace our batteries.

I'm interested in finding out the best way to prolong the life of our batteries. In other words, I want it to continue holding a charge as close to specs as possible.

I am NOT talking about extending the use we get out of one full charge.

Upon googling, I found these two useful articles:

http://lifehacker.com/5875162

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

From reading those, this is what I gather:

We should not leave our devices plugged in at 100%

Best practice would be to use phone until 50% then charge

Charging to 100% actually causes the battery stress. Charging to 90% or so is better.

I think these few facts are right, since my Thinkpad has a function that stops charging at 90% and doesnt start charging again until below 60% (or whatever values you choose).

What I'm not sure about, is what has HTC done to help prolong battery health?

Does our phone automatically switch to using power straight from the charger at 100% instead of charging and draining the battery simultaneously?

Does any phone do that?

Battery health is likely the reason why our phones charge so slowly. Slow charging = less stress = better battery health.

I've also emailed HTC to see if they have any tips. Their manual contain no tips.

UPDATE:

Okay, so HTC got back to me.. amazingly quick. lol

Its a long email, which I wont paste here, but the one important part is this:

That is what the guy said, word for word. The rest of the email diverges and talks about general battery saving tips.

So what the HTC rep says seems to fall in line with the three points I got from the articles I read.

Only difference being HTC recommends going all the way down to 15% before charging.. Hmm
[One (M7) General] jason27131:
Honestly, considering most of us get a new phone after a year or so, we're not going to see any huge hits in battery performance even if we don't follow these "rules". Not to mention I'm REALLY not going to wake up in the middle of the night to unplug my phone just so it doesn't stay at 100% all night. Just charge the battery in whatever way's the most convenient.
[One (M7) General] jonny68:
Useful post thanks for sharing.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
You might be right. But I bet there are a few people out there who are on 2-year contracts or just don't think they'll give up their HTC One so easily.

I personally love the design of the device and want it to last as long as possible.

I haven't felt this way about a phone since my Xperia X1, which I did eventually give up because I already replaced the housing twice, the mainboard was starting to have issues, and Windows Mobile 6 was just **** lol.

Anyway, under normal use these batteries should be fine for a bit. But unintentional abuse can wear them down faster than you think. At least thats what I get from these articles. And thats been my experience in the past with laptops and cellphones.

I too probably wont be waking up at night to unplug my phone or buying a timer to automatically stop charging my phone. But when I can adhere to these guidelines, I'll try my best to.

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jonny68, no problem, glad this is useful.
[One (M7) General] Terrorantula:
These batteries have electronics to protect them, you wont be doing the battery any damage how you use it other than using your phone a lot and putting a lot of cycles through it. They never let you drain your battery 100% and they never let your charge 100%, it just shows 0-100% for the ease of the consumer. You cannot over charge your phone, if you could there would be a lot of issues out there.

Fact is just use your phone how you use it.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
But that isnt entirely true.

Yes, our batteries now have mechanisms to stop overcharge and deep discharge.

But these same mechanisms do not provide longevity. Instead, our batteries are geared more towards providing the most use per charge without damage.

It is done this way for obvious reasons. It also means we have a choice about whether or not we want to sacrifice a small bit of convenience or capacity now, for a better battery later in time.

For example, this chart from the second article I linked shows that if you charge only to 90%, your battery can go through double the charge/discharge cycles before dropping to 70% health as compared to charging all the way to 100%
[One (M7) General] jason27131:
Quote from the article:

"Should I disconnect my laptop from the power grid when not in use?” many ask. Under normal circumstances this should not be necessary because once the lithium-ion battery is full the charger discontinues charge and only engages when the battery voltage drops. Most users do not remove the AC power and I like to believe that this practice is safe.

Like i said, this is all pointless, because 100% of us charge our phones overnight, and 0% of us are willing to wake up 3 hours into our sleep to unplug it at 90% or 100%.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_of_charge

Reading voltages is one of many methods of determining how much charge is left within a battery. Hence the other column in that table.

You cant just stick a meter on a battery and read how many mAHs are left.

EDIT:

Right, and that is true for some laptops as some of them do tend to have more sophisticated battery management software/hardware. I mentioned my own Thinkpad and its functions in this OP.

I was curious as to if our phones do the same thing as laptops; disengage the battery at 100% charge and run off AC only. But it does not, as per HTC's reply suggesting phones should be unplugged once at 100%.

And for your other point, I already addressed that. I'm not saying this is essential or that everyone should follow these guidelines. But to some people this does matter, and this post is for them.

As for myself, I'll use yesterday as an example.

I got home from work at around 6:30PM, my phone was down to 30-40%, so I plugged it in.

Before I went to bed, the phone had hit 93%, so I unplugged it and left it there with wifi on.

I wake up, its lost like 3-5%, no big deal.

Around lunch time its dropped to 30% at work, so I plugged it in.

It reached 89% a few minutes ago, so I unplugged it.

So when its convenient for me to do so, I follow these guidelines. If I know I have a long day ahead with no access to a charger, or if I need to charge overnight, then so be it, I'll let it sit at 100% until I have to leave.
[One (M7) General] m0nz:
Technically speaking this is all correct and a guideline to try to follow. That's all. If it's impossible to do, the phone will be okay. That being said, I am of the belief that if there is a better way to do something, we should at least try to do that. I for one love this device and may never sell it. This is one of those iconic builds that I wonder how much more of its class we will see. Even right now as the music pours out of these front speakers, my love for it grows.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents. And this little tidbit:

Every 100mv less than full charge you apply, will double the lifespan of the battery. So, a rough approximation,

Charge the phone to 100% (4.3v) , discharge to about 15% You'll get roughly 250-500 cycles.

Charge to 90% (4.2v) down to 15, you'll get 500-1000 cycles.

80% (4.1) 1000-2000 cycles.

Cycle count will increase by avoiding deeper discharges...

In a perfect world, you could potentially get 2000-3000 cycles by

1. Charging to 80% or ~ 4.1v

2. Avoiding discharge below 30% or ~ 3.6v

3. Avoid extreme temperature changes and prolonged exposure to temperatures above 45c

Most of this comes from personal experience and much research. Check out battery university if you get some time.
[One (M7) General] jason27131:
By last do you mean until the battery reaches 70% maximum capacity? Honestly, at 1000 cycles, thats already good enough since thats 3 years worth of charging at roughly 1 cycle a day. I doubt I will keep this phone past 2 years.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
That's exactly how I feel, and the reason why I started the thread :victory:

Your figures fall close to the ones in the articles, so it sounds bout right.

Im curious though, does unplugging/replugging have any effect on the charge/discharge cycle?

For example, if i'm charging my phone but i need it for something, I unplug it, use it, and plug it back in.

That shouldn't have any effect am I right?
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
You have to define what you mean when you talk about how long a battery "lasts".

We're specifically talking about deterioration in capacity over time.

The battery will "last" for 100,000 cycles in the sense that you will still be able to charge it and it will still be able to power a device on its own for a period of time. The question is how short does that period of time get before you say "this battery isn't useful anymore"

This came up in another thread and the threshold discussed there was 80% of original capacity. Apparently HTC rates the One's battery "lifetime" as 500-700 charge cycles until the battery capacity drops to 80% of its original level. (You also have to define charge cycle: charging from 0-100 or anything that adds up to that, such as charging from 40 to 90 on one day followed by charging from 40 to 90 on another day - counts as one "cycle".)

So this battery could "last" - in the sense that it will still have 80% of its useful capacity - for 3000 cycles if you follow some of the more conservative approaches above.
[One (M7) General] paul_59:
I don't know how typical my behavior is, my last three phones were bought via two year contracts, each phone was replaced after about one year, when the next-generation model appealed to me.

Don't imagine too many buyers of "flagship" devices keep their phone for over two years.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
Hm, yea I should update my OP with that info. The articles I referenced seem to define a battery's lifetime as the number of cycles it can go through before hitting 70% of original max capacity.

Not sure, but in the past I've always seemed to kill my phone's batteries before I replaced the phone itself lol.

If I look back now, that was probably because I always drained to 0% and let my phone stay plugged in at 100%. So basically I was always doing the worst thing possible, short of literally cooking my battery >.>
[One (M7) General] jason27131:
I really don't think that's it. I have done that with EVERY phone i've had, GS3, Nexus, etc. After a year i didn't see any major battery difference, and I plug it in at least once a day, sometimes 2 times.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
The difference may be how much we use our phones then, because with my last phones I typically used my phone quite frequently at work since many websites are blocked. Including open source code sites which actually help me with my job... stupid corporate proxy.

Anyway, I used to leave my G2 and Photon Q plugged in all day at work and at night. So thats 16hrs of being plugged in per day... Probably wasnt good for them.

But hey, if you're right and I'm wrong, I'll be even happier cause that means my battery will be fine no matter what I do lol.

However, battery deterioration isn't a myth, and it does happen. Only question is, how much does it happen.
[One (M7) General] jason27131:
Ya i tend to just leave it overnight for about 7 to 8 hours. Sometimes during the day i might plug it in for an hour or so to grab some juice on my s3, something i haven't had to do on my One which is awesome (get about 2 days worth). Battery deterioration definitely does happen, but hey, if I have enough juice at the end of a year to still last me a day, I'm happy :)
[One (M7) General] C1S12OB:
I'm always on a 2 yr contract, no need to really worry about this, but good info none the less.
[One (M7) General] jags_the1:
dont worry op .. ill put my battery in the many " to be taken care off" list. :P

ill make sure its in the list.

somewhere :D
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
If the ONe is anything like the HoX, the charger stops charging at 100%, then lets it drop to 95% before restarting trickle charge. However, the 95% battery state isn't immediately shown on screen, so many people use their phone then see a whole 5% jump downwards almost immediately. I haven't paid much attention to the HO yet, so I can't comment :)
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
lol yea I get it. I'm probably gonna try to level out my usage a bit so its less abusive on the battery without being inconvenient. If it still can hold 80-90% of its original charge a year or two from now I'll be happy too.

Maybe I'm just the nuts one who kills batteries long before the 2 years end lol >.<

lol :p

I dont think the HO does this. I checked the battery graphs today after leaving it plugged in overnight. It finished charging at about 5AM, when i unplugged it at 8AM it had a steady downwards slope, no odd 5% or so drops.
[One (M7) General] m0nz:
Unplugging and plugging have no negative effect on the battery. Its all about the voltage of the battery. Now, that being said, holding the battery in a charged state isn't great for it either, so if you unplug it at 4.3v and plug it back in, your maintaining that high voltage rather than letting it rest.

Now we introduce another fun idea:

MicroUSB plug life. MicroUSB standard is supposedly 10,000 plugs/unplugs, which at about 5 a day, is about 5 years. Include some drops while plugged in, some wear and tear from using so using it and now we are probably closer to 3 years.

Danger.

Will.

Robinson.

Now. There is also button life. AFAIK most buttons on modern devices are somewhere between 500k and 1m presses.

So, the question is, what do you think will die first on our device? Battery? USB? Power button? Volume? Speakers?

My guess is that the copper that holds everything together on the inside will probably melt from the heat and the whole thing will probably spontaneously combust.

-m0nz
[One (M7) General] Fatos:
I'm just thinking since htc have produced this phone they have thought about it.

And also when the phone 100 charged. It will stopp current input to batterso it won't stress it at all. I have always plugged my HTC desire Hd phones every night for 2.5 years And never changed battery. And left it plugged around

8 hr every day.

So no worries. There were lots of other thing to be more worried about.
[One (M7) General] m0nz:
Here's the thing; at 100%, the battery is actually not as comfortable(if you will) as if it's at 40-50% or nominal voltage. Whether or not the degradation of the battery kept at 100% is noticeable is another story. The simple truth is that it's harder on the battery... The other thing is that the HTC one overvolts past 4.3V when charging and like most phones, it actually trickle charges even after fully charged. While the battery can handle this just fine, it's just not AS good as unplugging it, or even BETTER, unplugging it at 80-90%
[One (M7) General] mswlogo:
Ditto.

I just sold my original EVO 4G with original battery and I never worried about how I charged it and battery was still good. But I do get a new phone every year, but I kept the EVO 4G as a beater.

And I've had every Thinkpad since T41 and now a have Carbon X1 none of them stopped at 90% and waited to 60% and I often left them on charger 100%. I still have T60 with original battery and is on charge 100% of the time. I only use battery as a "Backup" for power failure and still is fine.
[One (M7) General] ataft:
It's a big difference how many cycles at hight battery cpacity you will get if you charge to 100 or 80. With the One X, if I didn't charge to 100 I would not get through the day. With the One, I have the option of not charging to 100 because I can easily get through a day at full charge.

Recently I have been trying to keep the phone in the range of 30-80%. For most days, this works for me. For days that I know will be more demanding, I charge to 100. I've never treated my phone like this before, and it can only be better in the long term.

I know a lot of people bought the phone on contract, but I didn't do this. Probably if I was on contract, I would care less about how I treat the battery since any potential problems are much easier to fix.
[One (M7) General] m0nz:
Agreed.
[One (M7) General] Magpir:
from what i know , embedded batteries are always lithiuim ion polymer tend to last longer than repleceable batteries because

1) polymer battery

2) embedded means its relatively protected from humidity from the air
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
Agreed. With this phone I can leave the house with 60-80% and still be comfortable.

Especially since I have a external battery pack now that slips right into my pocket (Astro Slim 2, 4500mah, works great).

1. replaceable batteries are/can be Li-Ion Polymer too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithium_polymer_battery

The only difference between the two is that "Li-Po" batteries are solid on the inside. Being embedded isnt a pre-requisite.

2. I dont think humidity affects battery health? Or at least not as much as temperature does.. and I'd argue that being embedded would lead to a warmer battery. Although not much.
[One (M7) General] korkwin:
If you must charge your phone overnight, why not charge it using a computer? This should charge the phone slower, due to the computer's USB port supplying less current than a dedicated charger. From what I have learned, most standard USB ports supply around 500 milliamps, versus the included charger which is rated at 1000 milliamps ouput. All of this should mean that your battery will reach 100% closer to the time you wake up and disconnect the phone, reducing the time the battery stays at 100% with a trickle charge.

htc one cm10.1
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
I've been doing this actually, hoping for exactly what you say to happen.

Oddly enough my computer still charges my phone from 15-20% to 100% in 4-5hrs lol. =.=

Probably going to buy one of those Belkin conserve sockets which turn off after 4hrs.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I don't think we have to worry regarding the battery staying on charge over the night when fully charged to 100% , these batteries have safety lvl , after 95% they start charging slow and after 100% it literally doesn't charge at all since our phone can go for 10hrs in stand by and lose 1% so theoreticaly battery will be charged only for 1% if you leave it on 10hrs with 100% or maybe 2-3% depends on your deep sleep / wake locks.

Anyway these are the worst things you can EVER do to a battery:

1. Play games while charging or doing anything intesive = same as eating while sh1tting , simply doesnt go along.

2. All the time full discharges = this is stresfull for the battery and should be avoided , recommended full discharge is once per month just so you re-calibrate the battery.

3. Proper charging would be either charge it whenever you have the access to the charger or if you don't avoid going under 15/20%.

As far as the battery quality : The HTC One X battery is quiet sh1tty and has some issues like over heating while guys who used HoX + battery on HoX reported that the battery is much cooler then original and lasts longer since it has more capacity and also being much cooler.

I used my HoX heavily and i have it for around a year now , i've been playing games on it while charging and doing all kind of stuff simply killing it , the battery is still being very good and i'm getting average btw 4:30 / 6hrs screen time in overall 15/20 hrs on the battery , depends on the usage.

besides you shouldn't feel any difference in the battery losing it's power for at least 2 years. And by that time most of us will have the new device ( btw max what you could lose would be 10% of battery real power which is what ? 30 mins screen time .. ) So anyway i wouldn't be worried about this.
[One (M7) General] Nippero:
The danger here isnt over-charging the battery, its the fact that keeping a battery full (aka 4.2-4.3V) is stressful for it.

Not sure what effect using the phone while its charging is. But yea, it probably isnt the greatest thing to do either.

Agree with your other points though.
[One (M7) General] ataft:
The problem with using while charging is the temperature of the battery.

Since this phone is heavily throttled on stock, you do not have to worry about that. Gaming temperatures plugged and unplug will be the same on demanding games.