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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
me 3, have an s4 currently which I loved til I saw this... pre-ordered this morning :D

oh and I really hope any of you with htc ones can pawn your phone off on some poor soul to get something good :p
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I love my HTC one, but I think I'll love this one more. Won't kill me to keep both ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
This looks so nice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APpTvU5izbY
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] WA_Bob:
Lack of a 32GB model is, unfortunately, a deal breaker for me. Folks I know with the 16GB version of the regular S4 have too many problems with lack of storage because of the Samsung & AT&T crapware taking up so much onboard space. (Which I'm sure will only get worse unless they allow you to delete apps you don't want when they "upgrade" the software) I got my wife the 32GB version just to spare her those aggravations because she wanted an S4 and the Active would have been perfect for me and my job if it had a 32 option. So, either cut back on the bloat or make 32GB the default Samsung!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] khaytsus:
I cant imagine the data partition being less than the Typical 2g, so the only thing that you lose space on is the media) internal sdcard ) space.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
or you know...just get an sd card which is cheaper per gb than the extra storage built in would be
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I just got a 64gb for 20 bucks. Should be perfect :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] artvandalay22222:
I'm assuming it will have apps to sd. But still, 32g model would be awesome. Now if they could just make a model exactly like this but add the speakers from the ONE. That would be perfect
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] xsaqzw:
I'm looking into getting the Active. I had the S4, but broke it :x

Due to my squaretrade warranty I got the full price of it refunded back to me, and will be able to purchase the Active as soon as the money goes into my account in a few days.

I'm wondering if anyone thinks it's necessary for me to have to preorder it to pick it up on day one. I don't live in a huge city, just a normal little suburban place in SC. I'd love to be able to just walk into AT&T and pick one up. However, if I go in and they are sold out I will be SOL as I don't have the money yet to preorder it.

Or are you able to preorder without putting anything down?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
When the s4 preorders shipped they shipped early so the preorder people got theirs before anyone else could. Don't know if this will be the case with the the active, but I certainly hope so. You do have to pay for the phone when you preorder though as they just ship it to you, it's not like you can pick it up and pay it off... I doubt It'll be sold out at first launch though as it hasn't been hugely marketed
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
They should have them in stock. I dont think many people know about this.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] moviecut:
whould do you think about custom rom support? i think, it will be really easy to port roms from s4 to s4 active (if only the cam is different)! Maybe its possible to even use the same custom rom (with an "s4 active patch" or something like that)...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] WA_Bob:
The problem with the micro SD card is that it doesn't hold applications or downloaded media like rented movies or cloud stored music (Amazon MP3, Google Play). Games and other applications can also overload it quickly also. 32GB with a micro SD card seems to be the sweet spot right now unless you're willing to root and install AOSP like CM or AOKP to free up more space.

For allot of people, the 16GB onboard isn't much of a problem because they use the Samsung stock apps and not much else. But if you want to customize without rooting or root without completely replacing the Samsung add-ons, if fills up very fast!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Most of my storage usage is from photos, roms and nandroid back ups, photos and things like that. All of those can be moved to the SD card and save me room for my app data. I think I will be happy with what I have to work with. Time will tell. My biggest concern will be if they locked the bootloader and if they did will Loki work for it.... I don't think this phone will have to development support as the S4 which means it may be a LONG time for a hack... or may never come
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I was just using the light as an example of how sensitive the screen is. It's a cool effect.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jdminpdx:
You have the right idea. Others have taken their Active phones and gone practically deep sea diving and wonder why their phone doesnt work anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Here is a question that has probably been talked about but i don't want to dig through all these pages to find out. With atts warranty department being sticklers about water damage when you want to replace a phone, how does that apply with this phone?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Water damage is not covered under warranty(AT&T or Samsung). If your phone has water damage and one of the internal stickers turn red you are SOL and have to pay full repair costs. Sucks but it is what it is. Some phones were not sealed right and we have to pay the penalty of pool quality control. Still a great phone just cross your fingers and hope they sealed it up right
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
That's what i had figured.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dudeicon:
pool side

Long story short. Had phone pool side. Under water. And it got thrown. In that order. Phone gave me insert sim and battery showed water damage. Lens was foggy. Dried in and around battery. Reset sim. Still gave me insert sim. Put a blow dryer to it for a few minutes. Solved insert sim problem. But when display went off could not get back on. Could hear it responding no display. Took blow dryer to it a bit longer. All came back. Ran down to best buy on the 15th and last day today and got warranty. Be careful not indestructible. Still love this phone. ...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
After it was wet it was thrown. Was it thrown into the water? That sucks, I'm mainly planning on this phone only getting wet in emergencies.

Here's some of my random thoughts on water in electronics:

You can make matters worse with the blow dryer. You never want to blow. It could push moisture deeper. Unless you were using the Bernoulli principle by blowing it across the phone. A good method is the opposite of blowing which is sucking with a wet/dry vac, just not close enough to cause static shock to the phone.

Then you can use a desiccant, if you are using rice, I would suggest leaving it in rice and going out and buying a desiccant to do a proper job. I'd let it sit in the desiccant overnight. Then in the morning you can let it sit on an absorbent material and try to get the last bits of moisture and humidity out. I live in a humid place, so I'd consider putting the desiccant and phone in an air-tight container.

Either way, some people get impatient and try to turn it on before taking the time to try to get all the water & moisture out. That could be the nail in the coffin. Patience is key.

Legal Disclaimer***I don't claim to be an expert on this or anything. The above is not advice but an opinion and theory. Please consult a professional before attempting to fix your device. And please don't handle wet electronics because they can cause damage up to and including but not limited to your death and the death of your electronics.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dudeicon:
Fyi my phone works. Last 5 hours no problem. Never shut down do to water. I couldn't tell you if my problems were before swimming or after hitting concrete. Good advice. You sound like a electronics or bench tech. Im a field tech. Brut method is my game dry it and hit it. I deal with component as old as me. Main reason I got phone to withstand elements. If my phone does fail I have the warranty now to fix or replace.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Tsaukpaetra:
Nice big battery drain from wakelock

I just got this phone, and it's pretty sweet despite being TW-based. However, I'm finding that it never really sleeps.

In BetterBatteryStats, it points that "PhoneWindowManager.mTorchlightWakeLock (Android System): 5 h 57 m 31 s (21451 s) Count:33 92.5%" is keeping the phone awake, but I don't have the torch enabled (at least, it's always dark in any case!)

Sad part is, that I can't find any particular application that this refers to, as it seems to be system internal. Any pointers on how to disable this activity? I can't find it mentioned anywhere on the web, so it must be samsung proprietary...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] strikeIII:
Maybe check to see if Torch Light is enabled under Settings-My Device.

Sent from AT&T Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Dashmeet singh:
The phone is not getting charged :/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] khaytsus:
er, any device that gets wet you should IMMEDIATELY remove the battery, open up as much as possible, put it in desiccant, and let it sit in a warm place for perhaps days to allow it to dry out. After you're very sure it's dry, try putting the battery back in. Not before.

You're lucky if it was still wet when you were turning it back on and it was wet.

And as for your story... erm.. Drinking is bad, mmkhay?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I have a request can someone go into their system\apps and get me the mms.apk and Secmms.apk? My back up does not seem to work. Needs to be the stock one not the dark one. Thanks

Also guys don't start fighting... We are a family and this community exists so we can help each other out. If we turn on each other our Active community will turn into a bad enviroment and everyone loses. We are already small in number, lets keep the people we got
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I'll put it up for you if you give me a few. I don't have any mms.apk, only secmms.apk. Do you want the odex as well?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Thanks! Go ahead and do both
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Here, give these a whirl- http://goo.gl/Yjyfv
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Thanks! I would give you a thanks but I'm out for the day. Can anyone get me the mms.apk? I need that aswell
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
I don't think there is an MMS.apk. I don't have one either, and I don't remember deleting one. I've backed up everything I've removed from /System/app, so I'm pretty sure it was never there.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Hmm oh ok. My normal mms app has disappeared I just figured I was missing the apk.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
SecMMS is the stock mms app. There isn't another apk for it. You aren't missing anything.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
What I mean is I do not have the messaging app anymore, it's gone. I was a result of me doing the cm10.1 messaging app mod. I made a mistake and flashed it over the dark themed messaging app and mms does work. For now I'll use go pro to send mms. Any ideas are welcomed ;)

My confusion came because the mod adds the mms.apk from stock android mod
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
The apks you need are (SecMms.apk and SecMms.odex) these are the stock files for messaging, there's no separate mms apk..Oh btw Thanks are unlimited when using the XDA phone app:D:D

Sent from my S4 Active
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Do you still need those files?

I was thinking of posting a dump of all the stock system apps for future use but I'm not aware of a good file hosting site that will actually keep the files for the future..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
The Dark Dialer is very nice. For sure worth the effort. Feels like my old SII again. One thing though- the file you download and replace is not "SecDialer.apk" but "SecPhone.apk". I was scared when replacing the dialer because I had to just assume you meant SecPhone instead. Maybe the dark dialer post could be updated to reflect the actual name of the dialer to make this mod easier for the faint of heart like me.

On another subject, the only thing I am missing at this point is the way my SII used to read text messages in the notification bar when they first arrived. Is there any way to get Jellybean to do that?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Thanks for catching that, careless mistake. I've updated the post. For your text previews, hit menu while in the MMS app and go to settings, scroll down to notification settings and check the box next to preview message. Voila!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
Thanks, my setup is now complete. Well... for now.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BeantowneS:
Hello people. First off i am rather new and not as experienced as many of the members here and it is nice to see the great support everyone gets regardless of their knowledge level. I had a skyrocket for my first android and have been in love with android since. I ran cm10.1 with it and never had issues. Sadly my 3 year old daughter decide to see the bouncing capability of it and now it is retired. I am in love with the new active from Samsung and am completely impressed with the performance. The root was simple as explained by the geniuses here and I was able to get rid of bloat. I am undecided on a couple of things and was looking for some of your opinions. My 14 day return time is coming up and I am on the fence of the difference in camera quality of the regular s4 vs durability of the active. I am a telecommunications tech and work a very vigorous job that can consist of harsh environments (I live in New England). I am also a father so pictures of our family were important as well. I did purchase the BB insurance policy but was told that they only replace with refurbished phones. Can anyone shine some light on the insurance policy from BB and also opinion of s4 vs s4a. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
As far as cellphone insurance goes For some samsung phones it makes cents. This phone is going to be a less expensive samsung because the screen is a normal back lit lcd. You can find a replacement screen for the active at around 100$ making it a 160$ repair at most repair shops. B&B has a 100$ deductable and you pay 12$ a month so after 5 months you are paying the same, every month after that your paying to much for insurance. And this is all based on the screen price staying the same.... Usual the price will go down.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] khaytsus:
While I know you don't always carry your real camera with you, I'd suggest using a real camera for those times when you're planning on taking pictures.

In my opinion, compared to a real camera, 'all' phones have trash color, sharpness, focus, and function.

(Note: There might be the oddball exceptions to 'all', in case anyone gets pedantic ;) )

So that said, IMO, don't return the phone for the camera. I've seen some folks in this thread do it, but seems rather silly to me. But I am a photographer and think all pictures with a phone are crap, some phones more than others.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BeantowneS:
I do use a Nikon dslr when planned so I can agree with you on that. It was more if it was worth it for those one offs stopping for ice cream things. 5 mega pixels is a big difference. I am tending to agree with you on keeping the s4a. Thanks for your response.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] lanwarrior:
Same here. Kept getting this message. ..I tried to use the built in hotspot app and disable tethering provision.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sc0tty8:
I need the stock samsung firmware, I screwed my phone up :(

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I am a dumbass, it's on the first page...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
That sucks dude. What did you flash?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sc0tty8:
Did't flash nothing, have been playing with freezing and removing crap and it got me...

Everything was working but the phone, I make a call and get the "com.android.phone has stopped working". Not sure specifically what I did to cause this.

Google was showing this can be due to battery, a piece of software installed, bad sim card, etc. I tried a factory reset and that didn't do anything.

It may have been from the "dark dialer" mods, but again, not sure.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Check the OP for the One click Odin file and it will restore you to default

Or download here
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
Is there a way to make it not tell you that you're connected to a wifi network? Like I ****ing know, I don't need you to tell me all the time...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sc0tty8:
:) Found that right away. I may be a n00b, but if you look at my join date...I've gotten by with just searching, but time to get my hands dirty.:laugh:

Ok, we appear to be running, I need to get the update from ATT and then this thing should stop its power issues...(shutting off)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Has anyone found a way to stop the screen from going to an unreadable brightness level once you reach 5% battery?

Pretty annoying that samsung seems to know what's best for me and adjusts my brightness accordingly..

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Follow the instructions here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2348261

Open the nottached framework app and I believe under "Notification bar" or a similarly named section there's an option for removing the ongoing wifi notification. You have to be rooted.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I returned my S4 active for the s4, but I don't have a real camera (and if I did I would not carry it around, hence why I don't have one), plus I am not very active or in the water much, so I realized for me the better camera and more accessories (I'm a woman, and am picky about cases, so although a lot are coming out for the active, I didn't find one i liked) were what mattered to me. But it sounds like you could really use the extra dust proof/ waterproof protection , and the active is a really nice phone, so honestly whatever you decide you will be happy. I learned from personal experience (asking the exact same question you are asking here) that at the end of the day people will give you advice but everyone is different and it will be your own preferences that end up being the deciding factor. Keep in mind att will charge you a 35 dollar restocking fee if you exchange (even during the 14 days), unless you can talk your way out of it somehow.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Tsaukpaetra:
Nope. I just don't let it get that dead, it's not good for the battery you know. ;) Besides, it's the same brightness you get if you turn auto-brightness off and slide it all the way down. :victory:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Also, I have the squaretrade warranty in case you are interested in another option.they let you pay month to month now, so it's 6 dollars a month with a 100 dollar deductible. No theft coverage though
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BeantowneS:
I'm finding what you say to be true. Either way I will be happy because it is a Samsung Galaxy and I have yet to be disappointed. I just value other opinions because there could be options that I haven't thought of. Thanks for yours.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dibeachdude:
Is anyone else having an issue with the automatic brightness setting? When I set mine to auto, it is so dim that I can barely see it. I don't have a case yet, so I know that a sensor is not being blocked.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] msn.debord:
I'm having problems with it too. I wish it was like in aosp roms were you could adjust it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
I had the same problem in the beginning, but it seems to have straightened itself out. No clue how though.

Sent from my IP67 cert. rooted Galaxy S4A

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Still no seperate forum for the S4A? Doesn't look like we're getting it.

Sent from my IP67 cert. rooted Galaxy S4A
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] msn.debord:
I don't see why we haven't gotten one yet. It's really disappointing.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
:highfive:

The screen is different the camera is different its size is different its software is unique. The s4 tag is almost meaningless, it might only mean processor speed now. There are very few aspects that only the S4 Active and the Stock S4 have in common. And this also will go for the mini and the zoom.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jeremy1701:
Egads the auto brightness is dim! I haven't found a way to adjustice it (yet).
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BeantowneS:
The skyrocket got it's own so you have to figure the active will at some point. This phone is still pretty new to the market.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sc0tty8:
Yay phone is working!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
You have to delete the ODEX files and reboot the phone... This will clear off the errors.. It will do a "android is updating apps X or 3"

Basically it has to reodex the new apks

Delete Secphone.odex, Seccontact.odex, and Secmms.odex- reboot
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] LHRS:
Try turning off "Power saving mode" in Settings, or just uncheck "Screen power saving" in the Power saving mode settings. That worked for me.

Luke
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Well I am hoping that the update for the S4 will push devs to work harder on a root method and unlocking the bootloader. They haven't confirmed it yet but I'm sure they have patch loki like they did for us.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
I was reading the s4 forums about their update. Oh boy. Hope my s4 active doesn't come back from Samsung repair with some new baseband.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] echonc:
Your s4 active is already on the new baseband.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
Not trying to be nosey, but, why did it go to Sammy for repair? ATT wouldn't swap it?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
What happened to your phone? Why was it being repaired?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
[TE=joshuadjohnson22;43431335]What happened to your phone? Why was it being repaired?

I bought it at Walmart, it went to Samsung for a leak in the lower rh corner of the backplate nearest the battery compartment. Its been there 3 days already. pothead mistake. I didnt think of returning it to walmart until after i sent it to samsung. Either way, its their device, they can figure out why it leaked.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
Water leak? Mess up the phone?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
No damage. I happened to see the water build up in the bottom rh corner of the battery compartment. No harm no foul. But I don't want there to be a next time. Maybe I will just let the phone be waterproof in in accidental toilet dunk. Not so much for swimming pool videos.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
To bad we have to fear our waterproof phones getting water damage.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
You have to fear for water damage any time you put something in water.In contrast I think all samsung devices should have a ip67 raiting if not ip61
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
True. But I was thinking more along the lines of, something that's made to be in water, you shouldn't have to worry about water damaging it as long as the precautions are taken to insure there's no water intrusion.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I put mine in a cup of iced tea today and then proceeded to wash it off in the sink.

Why? Because I could.

If you follow the precautions and look for any defects you will be fine
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
That's what I'm talkin about!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Snakethis69:
I can confirm that this is working, however I used the sprint build.prop settings and did not have to go uncheck the wallet app, It also does not say un supported device. THe first time I ran the wallet app it did stop and force close but I reopened it and it continued setup and allowed me to set it up and use it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
wow, good job to you then cuz all it did was soft brick my phone :(