yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
It still is Samsung who is screwing us. They're the ones who wrote the code for that AT&T updater.

Source: The AT&T updater actually works, so it couldn't have been AT&T who wrote it.

---------- Post added at 04:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:46 PM ----------

Here you go

We really do need our own forum so people can search instead of sifting through a 20+ page thread.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
I read all the posts yesterday and remember the pics. Has it been a consensus that the pictures are very close between the S4 Active & S4 or does anyone think there is a big difference? I see that many of the S4 active owners really like the LCD screen. How about battery life?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I wish I could help you more but I won't actually have mine in hand until Monday or Tuesday. I'm just trying to hang around and be helpful in the meanwhile :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Battery life is comparable, same with camera. I wouldn't let the 8mp vs 13mp thing get to you, it's still a good camera. Screen really is wonderful, every bit as impressive as the HTC one.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I think the screen is nicer than the AMOLED on the regular S4. I was never a fan of AMOLED displays. I did a side by side with the screen on my One and it's quite comparable. It's definitely not a downgrade from the regular S4, that's for sure. Battery seems pretty good so far. I'm at 87% right now with 45 minutes of screen time, which is OK in my book.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
Yes, I put my s4 next to the active in the store and both screen were great. Since I was holding them both, I could not really go to web pages and compare etc. I am satisfied that the screens are both great.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Has anyone tried an ODIN flash root like we see for the i9505? I think since the bootloader is locked it will fail but I haven't seen someone confirm it is locked (although we all are pretty sure it is)

for example this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2294005

there are probably more but if you attempt to flash via ODIN and it's a locked BL it should just say FAILED. Now I do not know the consequences if it it not locked and the flash is successful.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] khaytsus:
Show me an international Samsung with that updater...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
How does that prove that Samsung didn't write the code? Common sense would tell us that an international phone wouldn't come with software used for a United States company..

Edit: was just poking fun at AT&T anyway, didn't mean to offend.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Battery life is better for me on this vs my old rooted s4 and better than my HTC one with powersaver always on.

This is 100% stock, zero powersaver or any kind of power saving apps.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
ware is the place to look for the info on how to root for this phone?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Here, but there's no root yet. Give it time.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
It would be nice to hear from at least 1 dev about it... I feel like right now our only hope is to wait for AT&T to update the regular S4 to run the firmware we have and then the devs will find a way to hack it. Even if the firmware is not the exact same it will have the same patch applied to it which means if they find an exploit it should work with our phones. I wonder if we had our own thread if it would attract more devs.

If you are a dev and you are working on the S4 active let us know! I understand if you don't because people will probably annoy your with ETA requests... But it would be nice to know someone is trying.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
The only thing I'm missing and patiently waiting for root for is adaway.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
Everybody keeps raving about their battery life, but I've had pretty bad battery life with my s4 and my active too...I just don't get it. This is coming from an i777
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Watch what apps you have running, and what your sync settings are. I'm doing nothing special and I'm nearing 5hrs screen time without Wi-Fi and 20% battery left.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
facebook, twitter, neutron, and noozxoide are like the only things that I have running. I only have like an hour and a half of screen time and im at ~15%(charged a little bit)

oh and email synces every 15
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I want the blue dialer from the international version... and debloat.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Thats bad. Something is draining your phone.

U can actually freeze most unwanted apps. That's what I did at least.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
best thing ever was the inverted gapps I had on my i777, ahhhh they were so nice
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I disabled the ones I could but are you saying you can freeze without root? If so what app?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Freeze = disable, via settings

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
All smartphones ordered via the AT&T website are 50% off. This includes ordering a Galaxy S4 Active off-contract. Comes out to $297.50.

I got mine on a two-year for $99.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Excluding the note 2, this is a personal record me. (And is only day one)

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4

---------- Post added at 09:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

I have a hard time believing they are going to go through with that on the month to month price. The terms clearly state on new 2 year lines only.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
From the AndroidAuthority post:

vchamp2k • 16 hours ago −

Just made 3 separate month to month orders for note2, s4 and htc one. I am able to grab 50% off all of them. Selected overnight as shipment method. Let us see if these orders are honored.

I agree, it's crazy.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I called AT&T and they gave me 136 dollar credit because of this sell to cover the 100 dollars I would have got off and the 36 dollars for activation :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
many rapots

Nice! Glad to have been of some service here on the boards.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I'm a believer
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I'm on hold with AT&T right now, this is total BS. Had they told me in the store that it applies to off contract phones too I would have ordered one instead.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Don't think you'll get anything done. It's not "supposed" to work on off contract. And you have to sign up for a new month-to-month account which entails a hard credit pull, and then cancel the service before you activate the phone if you don't want to get charged the first month's bill.

But good luck.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
Yeah, in-store sales wasn't having any of it. The only promotion they were carrying was the $100 trade-in of a current phone. My gf got an Active for $99 as well. This only worked on the att.com website. She was having problems with her browser and had called in, and the sales woman didn't know anything about it. We walked right back through the process on my laptop and it worked fine.

I have a grey one otw, and her a dive blue one.

Are you seeing it on your browser?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
He already got an Active, at full price with no contract. He's phoning AT&T now to see if he can get refunded for the difference.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Trust me, I'll get something done. I've got preternatural arguing abilities. The girl I am talking to is already very eager to help me. Worst comes to worst, I order it online for $300 and return the one I have back to a store. One way or another, I'm getting the discount.

edit: So I just hung up. I ordered it online for $300, got a $35 credit for the restocking fee when I go to return the phone at a store tomorrow, and got a $15 credit for free overnight shipping. Not exactly the way I had hoped it would play out, but hey, I still get the Active for $300 off contract :D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
Ok, I'm a little sow. So you get the phone off contract at 50% off and then cancel that line once you receive it? So this is basically a loophole in the system, since you technically bought it outright??? If this is the case, I'll go online right now and sign up for a new mobile share right now and order a few phones then cancel.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Man I wonder if we could raise 300 and give this phone to a top dev to get us root ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I'm not canceling any line, just returning the phone that I paid full price for. There's a bug in their system that is giving the 50% off to ALL smartphones, subsidized or not. I just exploited it. I didn't have to add a line or upgrade or anything. So I'm gonna return the one I bought in store tomorrow and get my $600 back, and I have another one on the way that only cost me $300 :)

---------- Post added at 10:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:50 PM ----------

I must thank you, my friend. You just saved me $300. I'd buy you a beer if I could.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
I just ordered one. .. overnighted that joint. Lol.. $331.20 out the door, better then $630 any day:D:D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] teeg07:
count me in for one too... Only i didnt overnight it. Still will probably be here wed.

thanks to whoever found this!!!! WOOO!!!

here's to hoping its rooted soon!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
Well if you already have an active line that you purchased one at full price for, don't you have to create a new account to get the half off deal on a new line of service?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
Just a heads up. .. for the "off contact" deal, you still have to choose. . just choose they month to month deal
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
That's what I was asking, I already have at&t service and when I try to order through my existing lines, it charges me full price. But when I add a new line month to month, it gives me the deal. Guess I'll just have to cancel the new line once i get the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mcsinny99:
Anyone with this phone had headphone volume issues? I've tried a few fixes and can't get the sound I used to get from my i777.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] christophermdiaz:
What I need in the worst way is a bluetooth tethering enabled. I bought this phone mainly to use with my google glasses, but need to bluetooth tether. any other tips to get something working other than waiting for the root/rom? For the life of me I dont understand why they would take that part out but leave wifi tethering in....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I'm glad to see the new editions to the team :) Thanks AT&T for allowing this deal
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Dang it, now I'm considering doing this. I also just paid full price for mine ($640 after tax)

Edit: deal is dead.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] echonc:
Should be receiving mine tomorrow. Hopefully we get root soon!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kyan~:
got the s4 active, looks gud
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
Your welcome. As I said in an earlier post - I saw the deal on Android Authority, but the writer only tried it on one-year and two-year agreements. I tried it with Month-To-Month, screenshot'ed it, and put it on Reddit and here.

I got downvoted on Reddit because no one believed me. I get MAD love on XDA. Glad peeps were able to take advantage of the deal on a cheaper than Nexus4 M2M device.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Apparently not. I just clicked on one of my lines, added the phone to my cart on month to month and that was it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Month to Month option has been removed... So count yourselves lucky if you got through in time
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I still haven't received any shipping notice, hopefully mine will get through.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I'm sure you have nothing to worry about. If they remove it after having it discounted they will receive a lot of crap from people.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Like AT&T cares about getting crap from people! haha

I probably already know the answer to this question but are the batteries in the S4 and the Active identical? I want to order the OEM battery kit but I want to make sure it'll fit in the Active before I order it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Bdev3:
Just called att and got $136 credit for my instore purchase yesterday. I had paid $236 for the phone. Thanks for posting about the promotion.

Great phone so far, coming from original Galaxy captivate. Worry about the long term durability of the usb jack cover. It is attached with thin strip of rubber.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
I believe is the same battery. ..I have 3 spare batteries already.lol...I played with the phone yesterday but forgot to look at the batteryto make sure:D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
What spares did you buy? I plan on getting one OEM and a bunch of cheap-o ones. Amazon has a set from a brand callen Onite that has some very positive reviews.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
That's a good idea. Maybe someone who can possibly help also bring Cyanogen.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
this has me tempted... http://www.ebay.com/itm/MPJ-2x3500m..._Cell_Phone_PDA_Batteries&hash=item48553351e7
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I was thinking this too from the very beginning but I was thinking more AdamOutler or djrbliss. But I think we should wait at least a week before we do something like that.

But then I thought: with the GTab 3 and GNote 3 coming out, a root method that works on our phone is 99% likely anyway. Not to mention future updates to the S4 that will patch up their root method.

I think someone who has their device already should kindly ask a recognized developer to remotely control their computer with the device plugged in and at least confirm the status of our bootloader before we pursue any plans like that.

Edit: that 50% off promo will most definitely be over by the time we find a Dev willing to help us and then raise the $.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robertopod1968:
It is the same battery. I've got both and they swap
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
We already lost our chance anyways. I just hope someone will figure it out soon ;) we still need devs for Roms or Rom ports
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I'm very confident that we'll be able to run i9505/i337 ROMs with little or no modification. I think this phone is going to be big, like a lot bigger than even AT&T and Samsung anticipated. Releasing this right as summer started was marketing genius. We will get developers :D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
Ok. Mine wouldn't allow me to use an existing line, it kept redirecting me to the premier website and removing anything from my cart. I couldn't pass on this deal though, I just created a new account on the month to month option! Thanks guys!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
I think so as well. Everyone upgrading in the summer thinking of the beach, pool and water fun will be drawn to this phone. Viva la Active!(Pardon my poor Spanish haven't picked up as much as I should have living in Florida all these years)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
Thinking if pulling the trigger on the active soon. I guess this phone is so new not many accessories are out yet?

Anyone using a screen protector? I guess the cases are coming? I like have that stuff when I get my phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Accessories are starting to roll out. Every day more and more pop up. There are a few cases out and screen protectors (glass) see OP with the link to that thread. Also a reminder to everyone, if you haven't posted to request our own forum please do the link is in the OP
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
Crappy photo of 537 Odin mode write protection: enabled
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I saw that on mine too, I heard a dev say that it does necessarily mean its lock.. it sounds locked to me though...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
Just got an email that my order was cancelled due to not being able to verify or some garbage. I'm going to call and complain. I want a credit for the difference if I buy full price.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Guys, please go to Urban Armor Gear's website and request a case for the Active. They make hands down the best case on the market and if enough of us ask for a case, they might just make us one. Here's the direct link to their suggestion page-

http://www.urbanarmorgear.com/pages/uag-labs

---------- Post added at 01:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:36 PM ----------

I'd go for this instead... same price, great reviews and it's Amazon so you will have no issues returning them if there's a problem:

http://www.amazon.com/Onite-2600mAh...=1372083096&sr=8-2&keywords=galaxy+s4+battery
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Good luck, even thought it was an accident on their part, the terms stated 2 year contract only. You cant say you actually expected it to work :-/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Mine shows processing for shipment. They haven't charged my debit card yet, crossing my fingers that it happens soon.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
getting rid of the htc one regardless?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Yep. I already have an Active, so this was just a nice surprise. If it works, awesome. If not, then I end up paying what I expected. Either way, I am VERY happy with the Active.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
htc ones are dropping in value quick. im starting to compare the two devices based on the $135ish id loose with selling the one, if not more! Just installed ARHD 11 on the one to try it out.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
Has anyone else had a problem with their microphone for phone calls after using the phone in water? Ive tried blowing out all ports. The microphone works fine on speakerphone but not regular phone calls. This happened the other day but it seems to dry out.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Right after I was under water it was hard for people to hear. I was able to blow it out
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
I have 2 official batteries and 2 anker batterries that I got from amazon..anker batteries are as good as official batteries and they're cheap in cost:D:D:D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Welp, just got the cancellation email. Not sure if I should call and ***** or just be happy with the $50 worth of credits they already gave me.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I would lol. Anyways I have to say... the more I use this device the more I love it... Anyone else? All the things I miss from my HTC One are slowly fading away....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Seems like there's just the three of us who bought the active on xda lol

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Nah check out here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1660354

I'd say at least 20 people have requested a forum for the Active, and it's probably safe to say most of them actually have the device. Maybe some people just don't have much to say :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] stephensonbrady:
I got it yesterday and love it. Can't wait for root and some custom tons.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
:highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] echonc:
Still waiting on mine, it shipped today. Should be getting it tomorrow. I will express my thoughts theN
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I just got mine replaced at AT&T because my power button was loose. Idk why but this one feel more solid than the first :) maybe that is why it was loose. Restore via Kies as we speak
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dinglayne:
I got mine Friday... Called ATT support yesterday and complained about the sale and trading in my S3. I got a $100 credit.... But to be honest I'd rather still have the S3 for backup. Can't wait for a Dev to run with this......
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Why would you trade in your s3 for $100? You could have easily gotten double that if not more had you sold it privately. Craigslist is your friend.

Also, you should have been able to get that credit without trading in your S3.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
I had a regular S4 for a couple of days. I wanted the Active because I work in a smelter which is very dusty. After taking the S4 to work I found that I needed another phone because of the high magnetism I was around. It kept going into the black screen "S-View"mode and the battery was running down very fast. The Active has no such problems and looks and feels much better.

One thing I did love about the regular S4 was the thermometer and hygrometer which are not present on the Active (and you would think people being active would need them more). Also I can't confirm, but I think the light sensor may have been downgraded as well. I am guessing there wasn't enough room for the sensors to be covered in the waterproofing.

Still loving it though. Big step up from my old S2.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
The deal was different depending on if you want to a brick & mortar or online

B&M: Trade in old phone get 50% off

Online: No trade in, get 50% off

He did get shafted though. GS3s are going for 300$ on CL near me.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dinglayne:
I got $125 trade on the $199 S4 Active... $75 for new phone now was worth it.... Then I called and complained because of the 50% off sale and got another $100 credit to my account. All told... Traded in the S3 got the S4 Active and $25 back... I'm happy...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Whatever floats your boat I guess. I got the S4 active for $99.99 and now I'm going to sell my S3 for $300-350, walk with $200ish. It is much easier to just sell/trade in at a store though. No weirdos or creeps to deal with like on CL.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
Picked up my active today! Sold a Nexus 4 and Note 2 to make room on the charging table. My S4's make a great pair! The Active will be my weekend driver since we are by the pool and water much of the summer.

So far no surprises. I like the phone the size, weight and screen. The one thing I am iffy about is the long term strength of the USB flap. It is to make it dustproof or water proof?

Will keep it in the house until I can get e screen protector and at least a TPU case on it. I was also cool that this already had the update to move apps to SD card although I will not use that. I did not load all of my apps like I did on my 32GB S4 but with over 10GB of space left I certainly could.

Overall, I am liking the Active a lot!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
So after arguing with one ignorant rep for 20 minutes, and then talking to a very polite one for 45 minutes about my order being cancelled, of course it turns out that month to month orders are not eligible and it was a bug in the system, but they gave me an "exception upgrade" which will get me the phone for $400. As soon as I go home next week, I'm gonna return the one I have and they are gonna send me out a new one for the $400. Not a bad deal considering I am not eligible for any type of upgrade until October of next year. I'm happy :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
That flap is to keep water and dust out btw