yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] vinuneuro:
The megapixel count doesn't mean much. It's just a much better and much more sensitive sensor in the S4. I know, having had an S3 and Note 2. The camera hardware is a lot better in the S4 than anything else including the HTC One (which I also owned for sometime), and the corresponding software optimization is there to make use of it. We'll find out how much of it is hardware and software when the Active reviews come out since it's got last year's hardware with this year's software.

That said, I don't like AMOLED screens, and if the lcd is very good and the phone is durable enough to not need a case there's a good chance I'll switch.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ap3604:
I cant stand AMOLED screens either. I was even thinking of going with the LG Optimus G Pro just so I could get a phone that had a removable battery + LCD screen :eek:

Glad the S4Active came by to save the day :victory:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Glad I'm not the only one :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I preordered today. Anyone else?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] los4825:
Wish everyone the best of luck. Just returned my S4A after spending the weekend with it and kept my S4 instead. Didn't realize how much lighter the S4 is and also thought the camera was a big down grade. Don't feel very secure with the usb cover having to be removed everyday for charging. And I know someone posted about making their S4A charge wirelessly but have to think eventually that'll compromise the seal also. Think I'll just get a waterproof case and sleep better at night . Just my two cents. :D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
+1
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] lanwarrior:
ROOT AVAILABLE!!

Go to geohot.com/activeroot.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BoonDoggie:
True?

Is this for... REAL?? Too scared to use on my Active!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] SoullessGinga:
As a ginger if I can't get the orange Active I might do more then be pissed (I hope at&t get the orange one they should its part of their corporate colors)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Trying it now, will report back

Edit= according to root checker I'm rooted! You just install an apk and run it!

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Gonna try, my usual root apps to double check, but so far so good!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
Yes I just gave it a go and that was the easiest root out of all 9 android phones ive ever owned!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
Now you got to see if LOKI works...:good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] d.cortez:
Got a "Detection Information" message asking me to reboot now or later to protect my device... anyone else get this? to clarify, could this be the Knox agent running on our devices?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I can't get to my laptop till the morning, but what's the purpose of Loki? Installing custom roms?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301762

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2292157

IF, it works on the active...if not, ?????
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] msn.debord:
If I read right its a patch to get around the locked boot loader. So yes. Custom roms.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BoonDoggie:
Oh mannn!

Im still scared!! Dont wanna brick my baby!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
Absolutely, remember there hasn't been development for the active yet, so the only safety net is to ODIN back to factory firmware (if it exists). I think SamMobile might have a copy? Anyway, someone is gonna have to try the regular AT&T S4 mods out before anyone knows if they work for the active or not. So be careful.

I checked SamMobile and did not see the AT&T Active firmware available yet, so again, be careful.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I'm happy just having root so I can uninstall bloat and install Google wallet.

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Yay just realized now we may be able to use folder mount to actually install apps to sd card! Woot woot
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] lanwarrior:
Installed and tested. SuperSU, Titanium Backup, etc all works.

Rebooted and still rooted.

Tethering now works without the "Checking provisioning" message....

Long live Geohot (please donate to him) and the S4 Active!

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I have that too..not sure what is it thought...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] BoonDoggie:
Yup!!!!

I'm a bad daddy for what i just did to my baby for my selfish wants. But AR works!

Hopefully theres no serious repercussions.

Beyond happy that iI can now restore my Titanium backup with all my game achievements on it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I got that detection message too, but just assumed it was because I didn't have super su yet? I ignored it and now that I have super su it hasn't returned. Not sure if it's related though
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] d.cortez:
got it... i fat fingered a file rename in system app and soft-bricked my Active, but was able to recover with the Oneclick_I537UCUAMF1.7z file.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Does anyone.know if we can restore to stock soon if needed? Or is the firmware not available yet? Just curious
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] d.cortez:
i just restored to stock, lol, not by choice but necessity. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Can we add custom recovery now? I need it in order to install Google wallet. Sorry for the noob questions
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
You could look a few posts back.

I didn't see the firmware at SamMobile, did you use kies or did I miss it?

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It depends if LOKI works on the active or not.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] d.cortez:
Bing or Google: Oneclick_I537UCUAMF1.7z
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I figured that was the case, thanks...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
Cool, I knew Designgears had a copy of it, but It's good that it is avaialable to the masses.

http://rootzwiki.com/topic/44121-sgh-i537-i537ucuamf1-galaxy-s4-active/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Could someone please point me in the right direction for a.guide on how I would restore using this file above ? If not it's ok, I will search for it tomorrow...

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Ah it looks like I use something called Odin, hope it's not too complicated
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] scott14719:
http://forum.jakar.co/android-hack/1341289013/

Same method. Oneclicks already include ODIN. But I suggest you still do a lot of research and reading for a while before you try anything. Good luck.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Awesome, thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gadget_lova:
Anybody know if this phone will be released internationally with 3G pentaband?

I'm really interested with this phone, but I travel alot, so quadband 3G from AT&T might not enough.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Fyi the mod for the s4 for dark dialer (phone apk, contacts, and mms) does not work. It just crashes on launch. We might have to wait for the international version to be released and grab the files from there. I will start updating the op for odin restore and loki status, has anyone tried loki? https://github.com/djrbliss/loki I wish that goomanager would allow us to try the s4's recovery that has already been loki-ed
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jt3:
So... not meaning to sound paranoid or anything, but do we have any information on this geohot root method? From all accounts, it appears to work, but has anyone been able to look at the source to see what else may be hidden in the APK? I kind of moved away from rooting for a long time, so maybe geohot is a site you all trust, but going to some random site and downloading some magic file just sets off warning bells in my head.

I'd love for this to be legit, but call me cautious... I'd like a bit more reassurance from the masses first.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Hotz

Hope that answers your question :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Just use the exploit and uninstall the app, he has never screwed with anyone in his other exploits... why would he start now?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
Yes, I have seen the posting for cases. Most were for pre orders. I was going to be out and traveling starting tomorrow 7-3 and out of town yada yada yada and then I was running up against my 14 day return. So many of those were not options for me.

I think I was pretty clear in saying I may have bought it too quickly before the gear was out and if I did not, should have. The bottom line is I never use a phone without a screen protector and case...and most of the S4A's out there do not have that. I am tempted to have this phone for my kids but have a rugged camera already and just bought the lifeproof case for my iphone 5. $64 out the door at ATT store with my discount which is ironically 10X less than the $640 I paid for the S4A. I will be getting this case for my S4 when it comes out.

Not trying to speculate anything. The ATT store was promising cases the 2nd day I bought the phone and 7 days later...no cases. I have bought many phones at ATT and this was the first that I can remember that there was not at least one case for the phone you you buy to hold you till the better cases came out. Call it what you want. I call it un-supported.

I am certainly not trying to say anything to keep anyone from selecting this phone. For me, it did not fit my requirements within the 14 days so I returned it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
kill AT&T's OTA updater before it kills you!

/system/app/

Rename or delete wssyncmldm.apk

If you want to get rid of AT&T's nannying nagging message about root access delete or rename KNOXAgent.apk

Edit: K we realllly need a forum at this point, anytime XDA. Really, take your time. Whenever you feel ready.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I would also download this app and back up your root access:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.projectvoodoo.otarootkeeper&hl=en
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Good call. I remember this app from my transformer prime days :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jt3:
Thanks. That's what I needed.

I rooted and flashed the hell out of my OG Droid, but once I got my GNex, I pretty much stopped, so I've been out of the rooting game for awhile now, and just wanted to make sure. I certainly didn't mean to imply anything negative.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Is anyone brave enough to try the Loki method? I don't know much about it but if the exploit is still there running the adb commands with TWRP or CWM should get you access. Goomanager has not been updated for our device. It should only do one of two things... It will either work or fail... If it fails it looks like they patched if it works we should have a party
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Should add that if anyone wants to try it you'd probably have the best luck using that pre-release MF1 firmware from rootzwiki.

Edit: and it won't be pass or fail. They'll be able to flash the recovery fine but if Loki is patched their phone won't boot and they'll have to Odin back.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] SirBash:
Anyone know how to get google wallet to work? :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Thanks for clarifying, I do not know enough about Loki so I'm glad you said that. Was this patched on the newer S4 firmware? Is that how you know this? If so that is bad news for us most likely
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I,tried using Rom manager app,to install clockworkmod recovery,.but.it didn't work. Does that mean Loki failed? The tutorial I saw claimed the app uses Loki to Ingram the custom recovery

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By the way, I didn't have to,restore. When I tried going into custom recovery, I just got an error android guy and it took me to regular recovery, and I just choose reboot and I'm back to normal

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We can't until we get custom recovery to work, the tutorial I have that makes Google wallet work requires installing a zip via custom recovery...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
That is not going to work you have to run Loki method through adb see the bounty thread for more info
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I tried doing a search on how to install Loki using adb, but I'm still confused. There is a Loki faq that just says to look for a tutorial to come from whomever made the custom Rom, but I,dont want to install a custom Rom, so not sure where to go next. LlDo you have a tutorial you,could point me to ? I don't even know what adb is. I'm happy to be the guinea pig : )
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Ok DJRbliss wrote this to help https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

In a netshell you will have to run the command and point it to the twrp file and loki it to the device. Let us know if you have any questions

EDIT Have the odin ready just in case, It never hurts to have it downloaded already because it is a large file
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Awesome I'm in a different building from my laptop, once I get back in an hour or so to my office I'll try. Thanks again so much
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
No problem excited to hear back from you. Remember... read twice flash once. I would recommend you read that and the threads that djrbliss started in the original development just to expland your knowledge of the Loki flash. The reason I'm not testing it is because I haven't read a lot about it. (I plan on it soon). Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Damn I'm sorry, I just looked at the link and I'm not going to be able to do this. I'm not good at commands or really understand much of what was on that link. Anyone else who is actually tech savvy (unlike myself) willing to try?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Nah I just know from the knowledge of the device/Samsung's flashing process from having every flagship since the SGS2.

When you use Odin it interfaces with the boot-loader to make sure that what you're trying to flash is "allowed." Once you have root access to the device you can gain write access to the kernel and recovery partitions and completely circumvent the bootloader. This is nice but now the bootloader can't do its job of protecting you. So what will happen is the bootloader will decide if the kernel/recovery can be run by checking the signatures at boot and assuming loki is patched the phone just won't boot past the bootloader, and iirc download mode is part of the secondary bootloader so you'll still be able to odin back.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] SoullessGinga:
I kinda want to take that all and install it on every active at every AT&T store near me.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dibeachdude:
Unlocked??

I have always been a little confused about unlocked bootloader vs. root. Does this mean that the bootloader is unlocked now?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
I can try this when I get home..although im sure someone will beat me to it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] SoullessGinga:
No the bootloader is still locked but root has been achieved
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Nope.

BL probably won't be unlocked at all unless someone at Samsung or AT&T leaks the keys.

Edit: [MENTION=4315861]joshuadjohnson22[/MENTION] wanna make a general root tutorial/FAQ thread so we can get all this out of this thread?

Also if someone wants to make a video, even though this process is very simple, I'm sure some would appreciate.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sleze:
Yay Root! Now let's all figure out which bloatware files we can get rid of.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
We have a thread in the original development section. I linked it in the OP
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I'd say all of these are safe bets:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2282367

Anything else proceed with caution
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2254143
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Does anyone realize what a gaping security hole AT&T/Samsung have here?

_ANY_ installed APK, even those from the market, can gain superuser priveleges on this device by exploiting some sort of vulnerability that GeoHot hasn't yet detailed.

Edit: Wish he would detail the exploit though, I wonder if it works on other devices.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sleze:
Ugh...and when Samsung has a patch to fix it, it will most likely kill people's root access...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] lanwarrior:
Which file explorer did you use to remove these files? ES Explorer gave error saying "This feature is not available in your phone".

Yes, I enabled the root feature on the app.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I was also having trouble with it. I had to use root explorer
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sleze:
Root Explorer
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mrtramplefoot:
TriangleAway does work for anyone who wants to get rid of that stupid custom lock on boot
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I never had a lock... I think that is a SuperUser thing. Just simply install Super SU update binaries and remove superuser
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I think busybox is actually what triggers it. It searches /system for certain root programs and I remember reading that's the one it picks up
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
When I try to rename a file in system/app it says its read only

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
You need root explorer
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I did use ES just so everyone is aware that it is possible.

Menu -> Tools -> Root Explorer

Be sure to enable R/W
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
For anyone who has rooted that wants to get rid of the HIDEOUS white dialer and MMS app, here's how-

1. Download the dark SecPhone.apk, SecMMS.apk, and SecContacts.apk from here- http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2315779

2. Using Root Explorer, move the old apps and their respective odex files from system/app to another folder of your choosing (I made a folder called sysappbackup in the downloads folder)

3. move the three new apps to system/app

4. set permissions on all three new apps to rw-r--r--

5. reboot your phone

6. PROFIT!!

You will now have the dark dialer and mms apps from the international S4.

*After installing this, secret dialer codes like *#06# will no longer work*
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
Now how do I stop the att checker when I enable WiFi hotspot

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
compiled loki_flash, pulled aboot, and getting ready to build .lok file. Will report back momentarily.....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Can't wait!! You're on mf1 firmware right?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] echonc:
Not trying to throw a wrench in the gear but, even if Loki works on MF1 will we be able to flash current custom s4 roms? Even though the phones have nearly identical hardware we still have physical keys and different camera. I dunno if that matters and maybe I am over thinking, but we currently have no one developing for our phones that we know of. Any ways if it works that will be great and will be a step closer to something.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
The S4 roms will probably need some tweaking first with drivers...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
No, MF1 uses an older boot loader. Newer ones may have had Loki patched so it makes sense to use the oldest one available.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
If MF1 works I would be interested in knowing if the newer ones work also. If that is the case today is a beautiful day :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
Moose....i owe you a beverage. I almost went forward with the wrong device/software. Grabbing the "scratched and dented" unit to proceed.....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Still, I'm curious to see if the newer ones will work also. Maybe if we get good news with the old someone will be brave enough to try the newer
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
I am on MF3 and still rooted what will loki give me?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Damn I'm on mf3 too. If Loki works that means we can install custom recovery on it, and possibly custom roms (and certain apps that need custom recovery in order to work on our device, like Google wallet)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
We have the file to downgrade so dont worry.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
You can roll back with Odin if we have any luck with the mf1 firmware

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He beat me.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Someone on the other active thread (djbliss) said Loki won't work on active : (
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I wonder if he knows about the MF1 prerelease we have.

btw djrbliss created Loki
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Blackberrynomore:
So now that we are rooted will Goomanager be able to install a recovery image?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
No it will not work because of a locked bootloader. Our only chance at this point is to get Loki on MF1 which we do not know if the exploit is still available or not
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
If you have the aboot for mr1, Dan just posted this in the root thread:

Maybe you could get it to him and he can check it right quick
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
[MENTION=4315861]joshuadjohnson22[/MENTION]- You should link my post about the dialer in the OP so people who want to rid themselves of the bane of the Active's existence can find the info easily. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43190543&postcount=856
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Done, I was thinking the same :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
Will post aboot....just saw post.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
God I'm kinda scared.. If we don't get loki we're essentially ****ed..

Edit:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2347793&page=4

f5 f5 f5 f5 f5

Damn no loki for us..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] TwoStroker37:
I have an idea for a slip on floating case that would work nicely, but design/rd/making cases isn't my career. Is there any companies out there that would/could do a custom run of something with the pitch of an idea to make it?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
**Update with link to the bounty for unlocked bootloader http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43196095#post43196095
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Anyone interested in getting Google wallet installed, you can apparently do it without custom recovery, check out the last couple of posts in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2310733
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] SirBash:
A bit over my head... lol
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dibeachdude:
I'm guessing that would be a big case to make the phone buoyant. It's hard to beat a small Pelican case.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
Didn't work for me on the Active with the libs/firmware from the s4 zips. Wallet crashes on setup if network is active.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] msn.debord:
It shipped today. Lots of 'hoopla' over nothing..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
That hives us a little hope
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
You did all the other steps like changing build prop and xposed installer?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] msn.debord:
Yeah, not sure why I was told it was sold out with no estimate, when it shipped the the day after..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
I think theyre building hype. My buddy in UK is having issues too
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I got Google wallet working if anyone is interested. Lots of steps though, pain in the butt