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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Do we need root in order for them to open us a forum..? Not sure how that works.

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Anyone notice that using the speaker makes the entire phone vibrate? That didn't happen on my S3
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
It would probably help but no... Those two things don't go together. It is the mods who chose which phones are worthy of a forum and which aren't. All we can do is keep asking the in the forum in my sig. I hope they will allow us to have one soon or just a subforum but we may never get one. For now we can just hope and keep things as organized as possible. AND encourage everyone to ask for in using the forum below!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Unfortunately I just picked up a regular s4 used today. Will be returning the $640 off contract active for a mint $480 s4. I'm sure I don't need to explain that one :). I might come back if / when the active is comparable in used marketplace

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Do you want me to remove your pledge from the OP? If I do I will suspend the bounty until others are interested

Good luck
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
You will be missed.

Be sure to write us once in awhile, and good luck with your S4 :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
I suppose that will have to be removed :(

Thanks man, love the device. I just saw an opportunity to save good coin and possibly convert to Google Edition in the future. LCD display will certainly be missed.

Sent From My Galaxy S4 Active using a Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Removed. Sorry to see you go, hopefully you will hate the AMOLED so much your will be back shortly ;).

I will leave the bounty open. If/when you guys are ready to pledge go for it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Marvelicious75:
Wow, folks are cheap! I haven't even bought one yet and I'll pledge $10. I'm interested in buying one, but only if I can get it rooted!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I'll do $10 too. PayPal of course?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I'd pledge $10, probably more if a developer showed interest in the idea
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dibeachdude:
I would think that the two things are somewhat linked (unlock/root and separate forum). I only say that because, with unlock or root, more hardware specific mods and roms will be developed, and this forum well become fragmented with the threads for each phone. Granted, there are differences in the phones, but they are very similar in many respects. In other words, if this forum becomes polluted with S4 Active threads, the regular S4 users will also want us to have our own forum to eliminate confusion.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
The only thing is that the Devs may not want waste their time on a phone that is locked down from the get go.

Although, I bet if someone asked nice on irc, they might get some ideas on how to proceed.

If it is root blocked through the kernel, a comparable root able kernel will need to be obtained, that might not be easy.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Joshua, you wanna send djrbliss a nicely worded message/tweet regarding our phone?

Kernel source is available so he could see if it has that patch to prevent root user and see if they patched loki and he could look into rooting it.

He's very humble but you could also include our (so far) $40 bounty.

Could ask any dev really but him and Adam Outler really stick out to me as great guys, and we've already bothered Adam.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] stephensonbrady:
I'll give ten bucks as well. :D love this phone so much...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Looks like we're up to 50$ now which IMO would be worth looking at for a developer..
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
Honestly it is weird that we post all our thoughts here on this thread. We should separate them out, it's hard to follow all these pages.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I'd feel weird posting multiple threads here. This is the S4 forum, it's their house and we're really just visitors. Wouldn't want to impose. Once we get our own forum we can spread everything out, but this has pretty much turned into a general/OT thread.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
Id pitch in 15 dollars!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] daugh016:
I'll throw in $10

I'll throw in $10... let's get a dev one of these ASAP
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I think we should get serious about this, I want to change my pledge to $30. I know we are just a few days in, but anything helps. If everyone donates what they can, we will have developers attention in no time.

I truly believe this device is worth it and I hope devs will agree soon.

Up to this post, I believe this puts us at $95
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Was just gonna post that yeah, this makes it $95.

Edit: Which is just about enough if a dev wants to get one at that 50% off sale on 2yr contract.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Globel:
Going on vacation fot the 4th. I would love to teather this bef:Dor then.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ahfunaki:
I'm so torn as to what to do. I still have a few days to exchange my S4...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
I got rid of that S4 in a heartbeat. I'm sorry, but the more I look at this TFT, the more I hate sAMOLED.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Marvelicious75:
I'll up my ante to $15 to make it an even $100.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Join the club. Having a new phone is supposed to be fun, instead it's driving me nuts. I just can't decide.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Count me in for $50.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Thanks! and thanks to everyone, OP has been updated, hope a dev gets a little more hungry to play with an active

A tweet wouldn't be long enough and he doest accept PM so this is the best we can do:

[MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] [MENTION=3682533]AdamOutler[/MENTION] PLEASE come to our device, We desperately need root on the newest update of the galaxy software. We started a bounty and it jumped from 10 to 150 in a few hours and we see it going higher. Is there any way you could look into getting us root on this phone? I'm wondering if the Loki method will work after getting root. If we can find a root method it will probably help other devices once that are released and future updated S4 devices. We have tried all the root methods available and they fail...

or for the next 3 days they would make $50

The reason I say that is I use to have a new android phone that had root, custom roms/recoveries but they never got their own page. I am hopeful that because it is a samsung flagship we have a better chance... I just dont understand why we dont have one already. S4 had theirs before root and unlocking were available.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
I was thinking of that, but it's not meant to be used underwater. Liquipel is supposed to be used only to help in case of accidents. I like the fact that the Active is supposed to be able to be used underwater...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
Regarding root - below I have quoted the Verizon S4 - SGH-I547 ROOT thread post for what they had to do to get root:

THIS IS NOT FOR THE SGH-I537 - DO NOT TRY THIS SPECIFIC METHOD FOR THE SGS4-ACTIVE SGH-I537

I am just quoting this to get the minds thinking about what may have to be done.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
It looks like we would need a custom kernel compiled with the root escalation patch removed but then it'd be smooth sailing. This would take an experienced developer ~1 hour even without the device.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
yeah looks like all they had to do is a simple downgrade to get it to work. We would have to make a hybrid of our rom and the exploited s4 rom and flash it. Somehow get it to pass the odin check... easier said than done. With a locked bootloader the only way to have a successful flash would be to have a stock kernel from a version of our phone that could be hacked and push it with odin... Not sure if it will be easy because the verizon S4 has many counter parts... ours dont

of course if you try with the file above you will probably brick your device... but if anyone is crazy enough to try it lol go for it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I forgot about the Odin check.

I stand corrected.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] los4825:
I'm in for $20

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since i'm a new user i can't post my you tube link but just search for user name Los4825 and you'll see my video

only issue i noticed was speaker became very low after taking it out of the pool. just shook off the water and they were back to normal :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I took a video of the Active underwater. Sorry about the vertical video, didn't realize it was taken in this orientation till later.

[YOUTUBE]TleADLMNBiI[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Updated. Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Marvelicious75:
This is what drives me crazy about the phone market in general: they produce a version of the phone that has functionality that IMHO should be standard on

ALL DEVICES

and then they go ahead and make it an exclusive with locked bootloader and doom it to being a dead end niche. I hope I'm wrong!

I'm waiting in the wings on this one and I won't buy until I can get a rooted version - preferably with Cyanogenmod. Worse come to worst, I'll buy a regular S4 and send it to Liquipel, but I'd rather have a phone actually designed to be water resistant!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wgarrido:
Can anyone confirm that the sensors the Active as the same sensors as the reg SGS4? And how do you see the sensor data? Thinking I want to go play with them in person again and check out the sensors. I am still trying to decide. I should be selling my SGSIII tonight.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Same minus barometer and thermometer iirc
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wgarrido:
Hmm and I thought somewhere someone said it had it... so confusing they don't have a detailed official spec list.

So the apps from Google Play don't show those sensors? So lame, I did notice the off-contract price, the active is cheaper.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Name an app and I'll screenshot for you?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html

That should test it for you
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Image is attached.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wgarrido:
Found this one too: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.komur.android.galaxys4sensors&hl=en
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Looks like temp and humidity are out
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jt3:
Not trying to change the subject or anything, but has anyone found any wireless charging options that work with this phone? I know the S4 now has an official QI wireless charging cover available, and I assume that eventually, this one will too, but in the meantime...

I can find lots of non-OEM inductive charging receivers made to go under the stock S4 back cover, but every one that I see looks like it might compromise the rubber seal on the active.

With that darn cover over the USB port, wireless charging would be VERY nice to have.

P.S. If this was covered already, sorry. I looked through all 55 pages of this thread, but I can't guarantee that my eyes weren't glazed over for half of them.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
No news on this yet unfortunately.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
It will come eventually, it took the s4 a while
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
I bought a palm Pixi setup with the coil and touchstone and ishould get that tomorrow or Saturday so I'll make sure to let every one know how that goes!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] wgarrido:
Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] raitchison:
FYI for people interested in this phone (as I was) we went to the AT&T Store and spent a good 30 minutes comparing it side by side with a regular S4 (and the HTC One) and the camera on the Active was noticeably inferior, I know obviously megapixels aren't everything but what we notices was that the active had difficulty focusing on objects, especially up close (<1m) objects and in every case the active was slower to focus by at least 1 second.

We ended up with a regular S4 (for my son)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
That's a shame. I have owned and tested 2 Active's vs 2 base S4's. I returned the regular S4's for a reason. I think many people are psychologically seduced by the higher megapixel count, gotta love marketing hype. They are supposed to have the same lens. And I can see the similarities, I think most differences could be mainly software. However, in low light the Active clearly outperformed the base S4. Also, the bokeh for some reason was much nicer on the Active.

I think the regular S4 could have the issues resolved with a software update from AT&T or Sammy. However, I did like the Active out of the box a lot more.

Of course opinions are subjective. What's objective though is that you can use the Active on rainy days, underwater or even pictures of

thatbigmoose

in the shower. And even on the sunny days the Active wins because you can actually see the LCD screen as a viewfinder unlike the base model S4 with the dim sAMOLED.

Can you tell I'm happy that I switched to the Active?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
:eek:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
I was about to say the same things and finish with. .."and then one day you get pushed in a pool or caught in the rain. ....guess who wins...GS4 ACTIVE WOOOHOOOO!"
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
I wish I would have thought of that. I added it to my post, LOL

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I changed my post for you.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gurnec:
I'd love to know if this fits well, thanks!

I'm pitching in $30 which I think brings us to an even $200, anyone else feeling generous I hope?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Perfect.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
Just so long as you never put those picture on xda...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] casadelbeard:
Very nice. I am impressed with the video quality. What do you think of the photo quality?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bdgarel:
Id say overall it's pretty good. .. nothing to really complain about, especially for an underwater pic

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kyan~:
I love the s4 active. I have the blue as my personal and grey as my work (I work at att). :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
Must be nice;);););)

Sent from my S4 Active

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someone needs to come out with a case for this phone asap..:D:D

Sent from my S4 Active
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Check the OP for the link for the accessories page, cases are exploding
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] cardinalryan:
I experienced the polar opposite of this. I did side by side comparisons and put them on my iMac which I feel has a beautifully calibrated display and found that the S4 active clearly outperformed the base S4 by a fairly wide margin.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] raydi07:
Last friday I bought the S4 Active at Best Buy outright to put it on my tmobile account. Finally yesterday I received the unlock code from At&T and my TMobile sim is now installed and I am on the T Mobile network. But I was only getting edge. After hours of calling support at TMobile who could not help, then on to Samsung who suggested At&T, but i don t have an account with AT&T. Anyway, I did get to a tech and he suggested a few methods to try and it is now in developer mode. I was able to make some changes to the bands, reregistered it on TMobile and was then pushed a message to download some t mobile files. Since I am in developer mode is the bootloader unlocked so i can change the rom and get rid of the AT&T bloatware and add wifi calling?

I checked the coverage next to my tmobile Z10 during a trip today and i was getting Edge, 4G, and 4G LTE on the S4 Active.

How do I take a screenshot on the S4 Active? I'll post the screen showing all the developer options.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Any dialer codes?

And I doubt he somehow unlocked your boot loader. But this info could be great for carrier unlocking.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] raydi07:
open settings, then click on the more box at the top right. select about device, then keep pressing very fast the build number until you see a message to enble developers mode.

to get into the baseband service menu i entered *#2263#, set GSM to automatic and then set let/gsm mode only.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] TenEightyPee:
AT&T Pushing an OTA to me. I tried to decline it... but it proceeded to install itself anyway.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
If you put it up on a nice display the differences do become more obvious. Active wins hands down. I think the other guy was just trying to justify his poor choice, some people can't live without more megapixels.

I'm probably going to abandon keeping up the accessories thread soon, too many cases: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2331133

Narc! Don't tell them that we're hoping to root our phones!

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Is this the first time this has happened to you? This has been an issue for many.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] oOamnesiaOo:
also tested with Weather Station.........i get barometric but no rh or temperature

wondering if they just left pressure in to pull water depth info...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Looks like I just get "RAT Selection option is restricted" :/
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] raydi07:
Is your phone carrier unlocked yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] TenEightyPee:
Well... this is the first time since the T-Mobile G1 that I have bought an Android phone before root was achieved... so... yes... I have never experienced an OTA update before.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
That would probably be why lol
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
Same here. Did the black bar at the top disappear after the update? Or was it not there to begin with?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I have not yet gotten this mysterious update o.O I'm still on the "2" version
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
Just happened to me. Like Teneightypee, I tried to decline it... resistance was futile!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
One day somebody is going to be being chased by an axe murderer and as they call 911 their phone is going to decide it's time to automatically update.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
That would be my luck. :what:

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No warranty for water or dust damage. Read that in the warranty book. So, if there's a factory defect and the phone fills up with water on your first underwater voyage... Guess you're SOL?

But then, if Joe Blow doesn't put the cover or port plug, he could say he did it right... Bah!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Calling AT&T and having a ****fit would work 9 times out of 10.

Or walk into any corporate store and complain. It's harder for them to say no when you're face to face as opposed to on the phone. Not to mention those guys still possess healthy levels of common sense and sanity.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
What does it mean?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] designgears:
Means I have the oneclick odin file for it ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joeybear23:
You resourceful guy, you.

:)

Good to see you DG
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
that's crazy, what info can you get from it? :)

They need to release this thing already
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mbonus:
At the very least - Device# i537 ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
and that it is AT&T
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Hmm build prop values seem to be the same right
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] artvandalay22222:
I've found conflicting information. Some say dual core, others quad. Some say removable battery some say not. Some say sd card slot others don't mention it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] MJGirl:
According to this article http://www.androidauthority.com/ip-rating-system-explained-221948/ it says that the S4 Active has a IP67 rating. I won't be getting it though because my lifestyle doesn't demand it. :o
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Before the release people thought it would be dual but after they confirmed it is a quad 1.9. Did you go to the review on gsmarnea in the OP? It will answer all these questions. They have the device on hand and took a lot of photosand one with the cover removed. The links in the OP answers all your question

See http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/?p=24447
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
To the people who can't see in daylight, must have a screen protector... The reflectance of the glass is so low its amazing. Better then any phone out.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] NovaSlim:
Agreed, Runing my S4 without a Screen protector and I can see in sunlight pretty well, not as good as a HTC One at 100% brightness(owned one for a week) but good enough. However HTC One's screen is so reflective that Sun Glare will cause problems, low sunlight reflection is SAMOLED's speciality.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Yep thank God someone agreed HTC one is like a mirror I have one.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] some_douchebag:
Could you take a shower with this?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] artvandalay22222:
Only for 30 minutes
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] rich81420:
Can't wait to see one. I think my iPhone 5 beats the S4 in the sun. Both with invasashields
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dandv:
Back button still on the right... sigh :(

How do right-handed S4 users deal with that back button being on the right side of the phone?

I have a Nexus One, and the back button is on the bottom left. It naturally falls under my thumb when I hold the phone in my dominant (right) hand. But with the Galaxy, I'd need to constantly crook my thumb towards the palm, or shift the phone in hand, in order for the thumb to land on the back button. Or use my left hand. All annoying options.

Is it just me?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Nexii:
I thought it could only be submerged for 30? Showering is not submerging
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] MRMNYC:
Engadget Hands On

Engadget has had a chance to actually play with the device briefly! Very bottom of the article: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/10/hands-on-samsung-galaxy-tab-active-mini/#continued

Obviously, it's just their opinion, but, they seem to think the LCD is better in terms of color accuracy and outdoor readability than the AMOLED FWIW.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Here is a video review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0pndTkhtg4

And another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uzq-ryq1kw
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davidusr:
This is why I looked at the warranty book. This is a review on Best Buy

" We got our phone on June 21 2013 and tested it in the community pool at 10 inch depth taking two 1-min videos 3 minutes apart. The camera lenses got fogged, hardware buttons got disabled and the charger port stopped working. Yes, we did ensure the USB charger port was properly covered. The phone's camera was switched to "Aqua mode". Despite all the advised precautions, the phone had leaked water in. The AT&T refused to exchange it claiming it was ***damaged by water***. Samsung tech support is talking about evaluation and repair, refusing to admit the phone had a factory-originated problem and making us to accept the fact we have to stick with a $700 "waterproof" phone that leaked the day we bought it.. Is this supposed to be fare?"
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
It kinda sucks there's no warranty for water damage. Makes me slightly weary of using my phone in the pool but it's so much fun...