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[HTC Droid DNA] 123421342:
We all know performance is a lot smoother without halo in 4.2 do you know if carbon will fix the added lag in 4.3?
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Team Carbon is completely rewriting their code for 4.3, so when it's released it should be very smooth.
[HTC Droid DNA] -DroidIsDNA-:
Its pretty smooth now, for not having rewritten code.

No bugs here; sometimes MMS are sketchy and say can't download and then do 5 minutes later, though, but its not a big deal
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
No I don't, but given its a bunch of extra work the CPU/GPU needs to push in the overlay, I'll say its not really likely to not still add lag. I've never really noticed the added lag, or rather it wasn't enough to bother me. On my gnex is adds just enough for me to consider turning it off.

Edit: given that 4.3 smoothed out in general, it should still be better anyways.
[HTC Droid DNA] 123421342:
That's what I was thinking. Scrolling with halo is smooth but scrolling with it off is pure butter
[HTC Droid DNA] tman23:
Delete
[HTC Droid DNA] -DroidIsDNA-:
Crpalmer's 3.1.2 4.3 kernel works fine with this, for me :)
[HTC Droid DNA] jerryatherton:
I like it so far, I will use it tonight, but will tomorrow I will have to go back to Sense 5 for Bluetooth. Will Bluetooth always be a problem for 4.3 like it was for CM10.1?
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Bluetooth is working on cm10.2 fully although streaming music is rather choppy. But I would say its not a problem.
[HTC Droid DNA] Epic 4g:
That is exactly what I am thinking. I have a feeling with all the Linaro optimizations Carbon has, I think that is what is causing the issues with & AOSP Kernel. I am no DEV, it's just a thought I had also.

I am on CDMA Carbon & yesterday I had 3 sleep reboots that I know of in a matter of just over 6 hours with AOSP Kernel. Today I have the same set up but no sleep reboots yet, just funky data & radio issues you are experiencing. Today I am going to keep this set up to see if anything more happens then tonight I will wipe & install Carbon with STOCK Kernel to see any differences overnight.

I am very glad I can assist you & crpalmer in any way. You guys affect my life daily & I am glad to return the favor.
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
FWIW I clean installed to day also. CDMA and crpalmers. I'm home on wifi but turned it off and 4G came right up. Signal bars look low but I can better test later when I'm out and about. I keep an eye on it and report back when I've traveled more.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
?

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] crpalmer:
I don't blame my kernel either, but I did also specifically ask in in the OP of my AOSP kernel that you do not submit bug reports to a ROM when using my kernel because it's a waste of your time to try to figure out if it is kernel related or not!
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I was just restating what I asked in the OPs as some seemed to have missed it, that's all.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] crpalmer:
I know, I was just trying to do the same thing for the people that didn't read my OP either and trying to add my encouragement to respect what we had asked for ...
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Ah OK, I couldn't tell which way it went so I went for a neutral approach lol

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Sorry fellas wasn't trying to bash anyone that's for sure. Unclean flashed on Verizon without crpalmers kernel things seem to be fine now thanks again for the hard work.
[HTC Droid DNA] djsnake210:
ok guys i've been googling like crazy and searching the forum and cannot find a good answer to two questions:

1. is there a setting in this rom to turn on volume key wake?

2 (the big one) once this rom was loaded and I wanted to load all of my stuff from tb, but there is absolutely nothing in my folders. i know that aosp jb does the weird thing with the /0, but when i go to /0 it is the same exact set of folders and none of my content. /0 and /sdcard are both the same and none of it is my old content. would i possibly have deleted all my stuff when i turned user accounts off under settings?

i appreciate any guidance.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Then Google failed you, there's got to be 20 posts about this just in the DNA forums, your stuff is in /data/media, copy it to /0.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] djsnake210:
oh no... google doesn't fail... i must've failed google... lol. maybe i was trying to be too specific in my search. thanks a ton for the advice... it was there all snug.

also... thanks a ton for a really awesome rom. i've only messed with cm before and a little aokp on my galaxy tab. this has some really cool additions.
[HTC Droid DNA] Budwise:
I notice that even if you set in the email app to only check manually and never push or autocheck, it still pushes email from Exchange.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Google fails plenty lol its a hugely common question since 4.2 came out at all, I've answered the same question probably 30 times by now across a few devices.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Isn't that how exchange works? I've never used it so I'm not sure on how it does that, but I thought it was always push.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] Budwise:
You can set the frequency of syncing in the Mail app. Can do every few hours, minutes, or manual/never and then it only syncs when you open the app and refresh. Push syncs the instant you get an email on the Exchange server and it kills battery life so at the moment my battery is sucking.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Have you tried one that isn't a battery sucking vampire from a ROM that this didn't happen on?

Guess I'm just used to gmail always being on push, if I didn't I'd get so far behind on my threads lol

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] Evilmonstertruck:
Is there something different in Carbon that would affect the battery? The reason I ask is because I have been getting freaking awesome battery life with this thing. Its almost unreal.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
In theory the linaro optimizations will decrease battery usage. Not increase battery, decrease usage. Phone doesn't work as hard doing everything, so lower CPU usage for shorter periods consuming less battery power.

In theory.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - Carbon
[HTC Droid DNA] Evilmonstertruck:
Well, I think its working.. :laugh:

Thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] bb12489:
I have to chime in here and agree! This is hands down the best Rom for battery life to date for our phone! Not to mention how smooth running the UI is. I'm running the aosp kernel with min of 192mhz. Seems to be doing fine so far!
[HTC Droid DNA] rvpartsguy:
So I have no sound in apps like Google Hangouts..... Incoming or outgoing.... Is this normal? Is there a fix?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Not normal, and need far more information.
[HTC Droid DNA] rvpartsguy:
What other information can I give you? When I try to use video calls in Hangouts I am unable to hear them and they are unable to hear me. Same with WeChat. I am running Carbon build date 20130806 with CrPalmers kernel 3.0.2. Clean install yesterday

I am wondering if there is just some setting I have jacked up.
[HTC Droid DNA] -DroidIsDNA-:
This is the 1st build of 4.3. Carbon is still revamping their code.

1.) Start log cat.

2.) Reproduce issue

3.) End log cat

4.) Post.

That is what gets stuff fixed.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Now, was that more information or not? Now I know its not the latest build, it happens in more then one app, and you are not using the stock kernel on a clean flash.

If you only want the answer to your question, then I would say "no".
[HTC Droid DNA] rvpartsguy:
No problem running a logcat if someone will walk me through it...i Have only done it once or twice a long while back. also, I am still on 4.2.2 ... Trust me I will do anything to help with figuring it out the problem

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I definitely wasn't trying to sound rude, if it was taken that way I am sorry.... I honestly just not sure what info you want... if you want a logcat I will run one if some one lets me know how.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Audio likely won't be fixed in 4.2 so I'd say just wait for 4.3 to smooth out.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
never mind.
[HTC Droid DNA] -DroidIsDNA-:
I agree. I never mind your posts, as they are usually witty and informative.

*sits back down slowly*
[HTC Droid DNA] donnyp1:
Really looking forward to all this rewritten stuff and new update. Thanks for all the work!
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I try to bring a little humor into these forums, some people spazz out over the smallest things.
[HTC Droid DNA] -DroidIsDNA-:
I was just trying to do a silly play on words lollllll
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Dude wtf is your problem? Are you 12? get the ^#@$(&&@#(@##@()%^@*&#((@^*#$&(@!!!!!one!!!11!!!11!!!1!!one!!!@1 (longest cuss word possible right there) out of my DEVELOPMENT THREAD!

I'd try to make it more realistic, but really I lack the ability to type like some people.

Before anyone freaks out, yes, that is a joke. I don't really miss type !
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm not talking about you freaking out, I'm talking about people who stroll in here with questions after not having taking a second out of their life to read before flashing something and then they bombard you and us with stupid sh!t

I've been here long enough for you to know I have no animus toward you, I know a developers life is difficult so I try what I can to ease it by answering questions that you shouldn't be bothered with.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I know, just my attempt at levity after a couple of days of tension here :angel:
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Maybe you need a sip of what I'm drinking <gray goose>.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I would, but once my wife got pregnant i pretty much stopped drinking. Went from every weekend to maybe once a year or two. If you happen to catch me in that one time, I'd be glad to :beer:
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm the opposite, after getting married and having two boys I drink more to let loose otherwise I'll be extremely tense and stressed out.

After my nephew who is six years older than my son slept over on Saturday and tried to do some MMA shtt to my four year old son I was ready hurt someone.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Haha I'm lucky, my "nephew" (I'm an only child so they're all through marriage) is 10 and plays very well with my son who turns 4 tomorrow. No MMA stuff. Yet.

Edit: reason for the gnex is the DNA is busy testing carbon lol fresh install so no tapatalk. And I'm lazy.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Hopefully your son has a happy birthday!
[HTC Droid DNA] locoface:
Awe yeah new build out flashing now. When my check gets here I know who i'm making a donation to :)
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Me too, aside from the fact he has a doctor's appointment tomorrow too :eek: way to go mom!

UPDATE TIME!

New build is available in the usual place.

-Updated source

-Bluetooth now turns on, how well it actually works I can't test, and I'm sure I'll hear about it :p

-Unified version, GSM and CDMA are no longer required to be different versions, the "CDMA" version is Global, the signal is out of wack, but it does receive calls, without crashing, and grabs mobile data, SMS comes in, but doesn't go out yet. Possible a message app from an older carbon may work? Settings need changed? Needs some experimenting.

tickle me
[HTC Droid DNA] locoface:
[MENTION=4630655]pio_masaki[/MENTION] I can receive SMS, Will get you a log cat of android crashes.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm just glad they have chicken pox vaccines now, I remember having to suffer through that.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I know you can receive them, sending them doesn't work on GSM.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dri94:
Feel free to pass that this way
[HTC Droid DNA] locoface:
Mmm ton of crashes on first boot, but everything seems running smooth mms and calls work very smooth. At boot had a spam of crashes with cannot connect to camera errors but now it's fine.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Hadn't seen that at all on my side, was it a clean flash? With the amount of changes going on now, clean flashes are certainly needed before reporting anything, please everyone.

I'll go over the basic rules again, for those who have forgotten since the 4.2 roms had been pretty much the same for quite some time:

Reporting bugs is only valid IF

It was a 100% clean flash, system, data, cache, dalvik ALL WIPED (sd card can stay).

It's on its included kernel only, please don't report issues on any other kernel.

It's on 4.3 Gapps only, I have 2 sets on my site, please use them, those are what I use and test against here.

GSM or CDMA user in any post regarding issues, please.

This isn't aimed at anyone even though I quoted, I just took the post time to kind of refresh memories about what I would like to see in this thread when its actually on topic and concerning the ROM :highfive:
[HTC Droid DNA] locoface:
Yesssir it was.
[HTC Droid DNA] GavinMazey:
No problems here, coming from cm 10.2 wiped all but data and sd, just flashed Rom then booted. Then flashed core 4.3 gaaps, no fc except on first opening of focal but then it works fine. Anyone have a recommendation on a good 4.3 compatible backup app. Titanium just gets stuck on certain apps.
[HTC Droid DNA] KyJelly69:
Nandroid backup. Then use nandroid manager to restore.
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Gotta love Titanium Backup. If I download the Aug 12 build, it'll work with CDMA, yeah?
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Yes sir running it now very smooth gotta test Bluetooth on my lunch but very smooth!
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Wow I'm so glad I did this. The previous version was amazing but this is even better. Good work on this pio_masaki! :good:

EDIT: Whoops haha now I'm getting parse error on Titanium Backup.
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Yeah I Dont mess with backups so I'm good I haven't had a single force close. So I'm happy :cool:
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Had 24 stars on all levels on Bike Race, and most bikes
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Do as KyJelly said, it seems to correct TiBu behavior restoring apps, I had that too.
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Will I be able to use the backup I made with Titanium Backup with Nandroid?
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
One thing I've realized when I make a folder it randomly undoes the folder.
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
For me when I launch Titanium Backup Trebuchet crashes. But that's no worries cause I uninstalled Titanium Backup.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Bluetooth streaming works!
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Well this is weird it's saying I have no service yet it's installing app updates and such, and I'm not on WiFi yet.

Maybe a quick reboot will do it.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
This
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Yeah I wound up going back to 4.2.2 because 4.3 in general seems to have issues handling Bluetooth being on on call audio work but it causes basicly every app I use to force close or freezes my phone. CDMA user here but my issues aren't solely with this ROM is 4.3....
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
That's what I did but then I came back to 4.3, because well it's.. 4.3. But I initially did it because Trebuchet kept crashing, and Facebook wouldn't load on the phone. Hopefully a reinstall fixed it.
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Yeah I have a $80 wireless head set for when I go to the gym (witch is 5 days a week) and I also use my phone to log my workouts. So I'm just going to stick with 4.2.2 till the issues are resolved. Witch is OK by me I still get my carbon fix and I like the sweep2wake kernel.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
There really is no pleasing you guys. First, BT audio streaming was broken, then that was fixed, then its BT call audio. Then BT broke completely. Now BT turns on, BT call audio and streaming all work, and you guys are unhappy because it lags or whatever.

Geez just because BT breaks the rest of the phone is no reason to complain.

/sarcasm

For those that missed it, this isn't a serious post.
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
:D the only bug I've had with 4.2.2 is having to turn the phone sideways with ffc never had a flicker problem.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Yeah no flicker for me either, doesn't mean it won't, just hasn't. Yet. Its a launch device though, one of the first batches I think. Facepalmed the hour it came out lol
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
Yeah I've had 3 of them my original one one that got sent to me when my phone decided it wasn't going to turn on anymore that one had a big blue pressure dot in the center of the screen now this one I didn't have flicker on any of them.
[HTC Droid DNA] techinv:
SMS status?

I saw the note 2 pages back by pio_masaki, but can someone who's flashed the latest report back on how SMS and MMS are working?? Sending and receiving please...

thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Did you see the note about gsm or CDMA being specified? This is directly dictated by which is in use. CDMA works fine, gsm has issues on the sending side as it doesn't "know" its phone number.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Updates Episode VI: The Return of the GSM

The second phase of the 4.3 update is finished, I got GSM support back to where it was in the 4.2 builds, IE, SMS works, MMS works, phone calls work, etc.

Otherwise exactly the same as the version I put up last night, which has been renamed CDMA on the host.

For those that care to look at my git (why would you?) you'll notice my carbon branches are splitting again, jb-mr2 now has another branch jb-mr2-g, which , guess what..means GSM. Sadly there are just enough differences that making it's own branch seemed the wiser choice vs remodding the tree for each version each build. Because of this, the device name is dlxg on gsm builds, and dlx on cdma builds, so if you notice it, that's why. It won't appear in this build, but in future builds it might, and shouldn't affect anything besides what appears in the device information.

So, if you don't care about sending SMS, then the CDMA will work just fine, if you DO care about sending SMS, then GSM is the build for you on anything besides Verizon.
[HTC Droid DNA] KyJelly69:
Idk
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
Eh it's alright screw it haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Regarding TiBu, setting it to use emulated/legacy/titaniumbackup fixed it for me.
[HTC Droid DNA] bballboy32591:
Hey pio I know you said don't complain about issues if you don't clean flash, but mine is working great other than I don't have a toggle for bluetooth. It's in settings and toggles on and off but it's just not in the status bar. I've tried taking it out of the list and putting it back but no dice. Just wondering if anybody else saw this and was able to fix it. If not no worries
[HTC Droid DNA] gypsy6slayer:
No matter what problem I have you always seem to fix it :)

Thanks man :good: Keep up the good work!
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I noticed it too. As an Alpha expect there to be minor glitches here and there but the important thing is 95% is working just fine.
[HTC Droid DNA] bballboy32591:
Ok as long as it's not just me that's seeing it.
[HTC Droid DNA] armydog13:
Nope. I have this too. Clean flash here. Stock kernel.
[HTC Droid DNA] techinv:
Many thanks for this!! Was getting very frustrated with TiBu.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Yeah me too, I normally take it off so I didn't notice it missing lol
[HTC Droid DNA] fireguy0306:
I'm running the stock kernel and CDMA.

Anyway having issues with mms. It says sending but never does. I made sure I wasn't on wifi as that def doesn't work
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Tinkered in the settings at all? It took a little more in the settings to get MMS to show up for me, I could send but not receive on GSM.
[HTC Droid DNA] bballboy32591:
I haven't seen any issues with this on Wifi or on data. I use the Verizon Messages app though, i'm not sure if that affects anything.
[HTC Droid DNA] fireguy0306:
I'm using the default messages app. I can't use the Verizon one since I'm not on a consumer plan

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What settings did you change?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
APN settings since I'm GSM.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
On Carbon's Google+ they mention that the BT tile is missing so it's not something you overlooked when compiling :)

And some people mentioned the power button is not working too, team Carbon is aware of that.
[HTC Droid DNA] techinv:
Two things - Notification light customization and lowspeaker volume..

4.3, stock kernel, clean flash.

Settings > Display > Pulse Notification light

Turning on custom values and trying to set notification light colors causes settings to FC.

Also, speaker volume is very low (not fuzzy, just low). It's very noticeable for me because I've gone from stock, to rooted Sense ROM, and now to Carbon in the space of 1 month. Volume was fine with both sense ROMs. Sound played through headphones is more than adequate. Anyone else noticing this? I haven't had any luck finding a simple volume booster app yet (similar to Volume+ from my Gnex days).
[HTC Droid DNA] coachcrey:
The volume is a know issue.
[HTC Droid DNA] amathophobia:
Pio: how well does voice to text work for you on the latest carbon? I can get it to understand 1/40 words or so. This is with a fresh install, stock kernel, your gapps. I remember this was an off and on problem on 4.2.2....
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Speak into the top MIC it helps a lot.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - MoKee
[HTC Droid DNA] amathophobia:
Thanks for quick reply. Yeah, I've been talking into the top mic. Tried different distances from my mouth as well. Practically have to yell at it. odd.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Now that I think about it, trying to get an address while driving yesterday was a battle that had me yelling at it, first thats happened for me in a long time.

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - MoKee
[HTC Droid DNA] kxs783kms:
The battery life on this rom is crazy. 14h 5m on battery. 3h 19m screen time on. 27% discharge left. All of this on data, not wifi, on a 2020 mah battery. Whatever under the hood improvements Google made in 4.3, I'm loving it!! :highfive:
[HTC Droid DNA] Infinite Jest:
4.3 is a speed demon on the new Nexus 7. I'm hoping it rubs off on the DNA. :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
It did, it smoothed out on all devices that can power it, even older tegra2 devices.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
It's so quiet in here, time to cause trouble.

Did you guys know Pio bought an iPhone?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Nah. Traded my DNA for it.

Tapatalked from my iPhone 5
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
So no more Carbon ROM updates two times a day?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Nope, I'll be sitting around fawning over how pretty and unique my iPhone is.

Tapatalked from my iPhone
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
It is a nice phone, but without ribbons and pie with a root-flavored filling it doesn't sound like much fun.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I never use ribbons, and I only use pie on my gnex anyways. And I have root access. That's about it. Now I just need another inch on the screen, multiply the resolution, add a couple more cores and bunch of ram, and start building Carbon for it.

Tapatalked from my iPhone
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
If you're as great a developer as you say you are, why doesn't your rom pick winning lotto numbers for me?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
It uses Google Wallet so that feature is broken, sorry.

Tapatalked from my iPhone
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Didn't know the iPhone has tapatalk.

How is your wife and son?
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
I'm guessing, dunno if they do or not lol.

Good. My son has his 4 year birthday party Saturday, so my wife and I are stressing getting ready since it'll be at the house lmao

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - MoKee
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
After the 1st and 2nd birthdays my wife and I agreed not to have anything fancy until the 5th birthday when he could invite classmates. Until then, he will be with family and be more interested in he toys he gets. But that's how kids are.

My second son didn't even have a 1st birthday party ...thanks big brother!