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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I wonder if the USB port has further waterproofing though. Like if you left that flap open or it broke off would it damage the phone? Something makes me think no, because then Samsung would be getting dozens of angry phone calls from people that can't read instructions.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
most likely yes, but it probably is just water resistant not water proof so it requires the flap to work in full submerging
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Make sure they aren't extending your contact with that early upgrade!

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
They are but it's two years from next Monday, which will only extend my contract 9 months beyond where it's at now. I'm perfectly OK with that. I don't plan on leaving AT&T any time soon. Best coverage, fastest speeds, best phones, and most importantly they are easily manipulated. No reason to leave.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Hey as long as your happy that's all that matters!

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Yep! I always get a new phone every 6 months or so and am used to paying full price, so I could really care less about when my upgrade comes around. I always sell my old stuff on craigslist to offset the cost of the new phone. Currently, I have a One X, 64gb iPhone 5, and a 64gb One that are all going on craigslist when I get home. I should pull in about $1100 for all of them. That's more than enough to cover the $400 I'll end up paying for the Active :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
Playing with the camera a bit. Has no burst mode that I can see, will try it our this weekend. I find it hard to believe that little USB flap does much for water proofing. I wonder if like the headset jack the USB is waterproof also. I wish I has wireless charging on this one like my S4 so I would not have to use the USB to charge.

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So why did you complain when you did not get something that you should not have gotten? Obviously you do care about your upgrade...? or at least paying less than no commitment price...

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Are you using something to protect the Active or just in your pocket? I knew something was missing in the OS since this one had well over 10 GB versus less than that on the S4.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
99.9% of galaxy s4 owners don't even know they have a thermometer or barometer. Personally I'm waiting for Samsung to pump out some protective cover+ cases for this phone. They've already leaked on YouTube and the ones for the original s4 are wonderful (wife has one on hers).

BTW guys don't forget to register your device on Samsung.com so you get the 50% off accessories from Samsung direct. Free shipping over $50 too. We did that with the wife's s4 and I paid $67 shipped for multimedia dock, spare battery kit, protective cover+, and tech tiles.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Because $200 is $200.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
Sooo.I got cancelation email about an hour ago, conveniently after hours of customer service work hours:rolleyes: stating that "they have not heard from me in a few days or that I canceled my order.. neither is true, as I ordered the phone less then 24hrs ago and I never canceled the order either. .I will be calling tomorrow to try and work this out. anyone else have success after getting the cancelation email?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
I had moderate success. Read a few posts up.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ronj1986:
I'm happy still with my GS4. Hopefully they can have these features available next year, so that we only have one version of the GS5-dustproof, waterproof 13MP, 5" LCD....I just built the Samsung Galaxy SV. I should patent the phone now, so Samsung pays me licensing fees.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bigblue95z:
Next year?!! You sound like the Samsung commercial making fun of Apple!!! Lol.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I thought I had to wait until next year to get a Samsung device with a better screen technology (IMO LCD is better than SUPERAMOLED, just dont like it) but they surprised me :)

This pic with AT&T logo makes me think it will come sooner rather than later for us AT&T users:

I'm also hoping the bootloader is unlocked and the new firmware update is already applied.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] NovaSlim:
OLED have far more potential than LCD(just look at how much Samsung/Sony/LG is spending on OLED reserach compared to LCD) and is improving at a faster pace than LCD, The GS4A only use LCD over AMOLED because water damages the organic components in OLED.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I understand and agree it is better and is the future(and I'm excited to see it grow). It's more of a personal preference
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ThePublisher:
LCD and a lower MP camera look like a downgrade to me compared to the normal S4. Hardware buttons suck too. I guess this could be good if you are clumsy with your phone and drop it in water.... ???
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Or if you prefer a less slippery version of the S4 and like LCD and think 8 MP camera is enough. I personally think this version looks better than the current S4 (I say that with a disclaimer because I have never held the device)

This phone will separate people, it will be love-hate, some people will love this version, and some people will hate it. That is why they didn't go with this in replacement of their flagship device. I think this will attract a different type of user and that exactly what Samsung is doing. Now not only are you pulling from the HTC One people who want a more solid S4 with more natural color screen, but you are targeting the people who want to take their phones out on adventures without worry of dust and water.

With this type of marketing (A phone to suit every type or user) I see Samsung being on top of the market for a while.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] s1l3nt:
I agree looks better than the current GS4. Nice to see samsung is giving us options for the gs4. Regular,Dev,Google,and Active Edition. If there is no 32gb, that would be a con for some people.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
At least with the latest update from samsung we can store apps on the sd card. This will resolve most of those concerns
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
sadly only the apps not the data (for games)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AutoUnion:
And this is why Samsung is the king of Android now. They listen to what people want.

Google pushing for no buttons, Samsung keeps home button, which is needed. Google moving away from a removable SD card slot, Samsung keeps the SD card slot, whereas HTC makes up BS excuses for not including it. Want a waterproof model? S4 Active, here you go. Want an even better camera? S4 Zoom. Want apps on your SD card slot? Sure, the upcoming update will include it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] vinuneuro:
Afaik, Sony is the only one using TFT panels in phones. If Samsung is using the same Sony-sourced panel in the Xperia Z, the S4 Active will end up with terrible viewing angles and subpar contrast. Hopefully, that's not the case.

This phone is a decent bit bigger than the S4, around the same size as mine with the case. Is it 'ruggedized' or just water and dust proof? Having to use a case on this will make it a bit bulky.

Is this Samsung's first metal phone? Maybe entering this niche market with metal is their way of preparing for the S5.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Not all TFT are the same. We do not know, from the leaked videos and reviews... it looks pretty good.

(look at the rotator)

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_active-review-935p2.php

(And the leaked video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxkQavIz9wA

That is probably not full brightness
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
this page review the brightness and claims it is brighter:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_active-review-935p3.php
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Over 100 nits brighter then the S4 (475 nits in auto)

Pretty nice , but LCD idk I feel like the screen is gonna suck.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] tmacftw:
meh.

I'm happy with my S4. Don't think I need this
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Do what I plan on doing. Once display models are available play with it. If it is something you like buy it if it sucks don't :)

On the 20th there will be a lot of side by side reviews and people testing them to the current so I'm sure we will know by release
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Haha I think I will take a look
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joeybear23:
Looks great, but I'd rather spend $5 on a TPU case and $60 on Liquipel and be done with it. No need for a clunkier, less capable device.

Some may find it useful though...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
This phone has the same wireless charging pins as the original. So at some point I expect to see it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
Yes I read your post. ..was wondering if anyone got the deal for the listed price $297+tax
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
I don't have a case yet. I would like to get a bumper cover or small case just for drop protection, but I hate to cover up much because I like the looks. I put my zagg screen protector through a lot on my old phone and it never showed a scratch, so despite the expense I'm a big believer in those. I think a regular S4 version would fit down to the level of the 3 buttons. I suppose if the bottom was cut off it would fit.

I am also very much looking for a wireless charging option so I don't have to take the usb flap off so much.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] cdd543:
I bought mine on Friday and I really like it. Much better than the s4 I had lag wise and the screen is amazing. I can see it in bright sun. I might be dumping the One which I like a lot, but have been slightly annoyed by dust under the camera lense. So far the battery is on par with the one and iPhone 5, but hopefully it'll improve. So far I'm quite pleased with photos and videos taken.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
I am also looking to put a screen protector on it and get a light case. I love the Samsung protective +case which I have in Navy blue for my S4. I saw earlier in this thread that they had them in Europe. I may get a $10 TPU case to hold me till those come out. I have an extra screen protector for my S4 and I may just give it a try on the Active lol!

Edit: I just tried to see if the extra SGP screen protector I have would work but the front facing camera cutout is slightly different. I guess the screen are not the exact same dimensions.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jordant2:
No luck my way. I called sales and kept getting transferred until I hung up. Going to call the regular customer service and see if I can get a credit for the difference if I pay full price.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
My S4 screen is super dim on autobrightness. I heard that some people actually like the s4active screen better, that it's brighter. Can you confirm?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I tried calling AT&T customer care and using the online chat today in an attempt to get a refund/credit of $100 for the deal they are offering. However, I bought mine in store. They refused to give me the deal. I called the store and they said they got an email from upper management telling them NOT to honor the online deal.

Should I just try calling customer care again to see if a different manager will approve it? It seems like it worked with a few of you guys.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] teeg07:
Got a tracking number for my $300 s4 active! WOOOT!

Was weary I wasn't going to get it. Still may not, but tracking numbers are a good sign, right?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
There's a screen protector posted on this thread, please post any other screen protectors you find. There is also a case that comes with a screen protector.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2331133

That's a popular product you posted, I'm thinking of grabbing it. Also, I posted your link to the accessories thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2331133

I am going to cut down a regular S4 screen protector, I'm sure it will work. I already had a few from the plain S4 that I returned.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
I stand corrected on the camera burst mode. It is selected with the mode button and is called continuous versus a menu setting for the camera on the s4.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] _MetalHead_:
Yep! They make the best case on the market. I had a white and a black for my iPhone and both for my One as well, and I purchased them as gifts for all my coworkers. I did a review of it for the One. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2274216
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] DanMc85:
Will there be a replacement waterproof sealed battery cover for the Active that will allow for wireless charging with Samsung's Qi charging mat?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Solange82200:
Ok been reading the thread and saw that the Active screen is brighter. I wish I could just make up my mind already, whether to exchange my new s4 for an active. I don't have a separate camera so camera is important to me, plus I want to be able to choose from a large quantity of accessories. I also actually like the way the regular s4 looks more than the Active, I seem to be the only person on earth who feels that way, but for some reason I do. But I'm tempted because of the brighter screen and waterproof aspect. Decisions, decisions....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fresh_TD:
Get the Active. .I have the S4 and will be getting the Active this week.. water proof/rugged is a deal maker for me:thumbup::thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] moviecut:
i requested and dont own it (yet). just for the case, when i will get one ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] JasonJoel:
I have both. If camera and accessories are highly important to you, stick with the regular s4. The camera is better, although not that much, and there will always be more accessories for the regular s4 (especially in the US where only one carrier has the Active).

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To be fair, the Active is NOT rugged. At least not by any industrial standard spec. Although it feels beefier, its extra weight can actually make it worse in terms of drop resistance (18% heavier means 18% more force when it hits the ground).

And it only has gorilla glass 2, as opposed to gorilla glass 3 on the regular s4. This may or may not be that important depending on thickness though.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] firemedic1343:
The camera's have the same sensor anyway, it's just a megapixel difference mainly. And there are a ton of accessories out for the Active already, there will just be more and more in the future.

The world is a small place, this phone is going to be very popular and we have no way of knowing how it will play out. There are already quite a few accessories coming out.

I think I can see why some people call it rugged:

From thefreedictionary online:

4. Tempestuous; stormy: the rugged weather of the North Atlantic

8. (of equipment, machines, etc.) designed to withstand rough treatment or use in rough conditions a handheld rugged computer which can survive being submerged in water

However, you are correct in that there is no industry standard as far as it's being shock proof.

In order for gravity to pull down both objects/phones at the same speed. It must pull down the heavier object with 18% more force. But, I haven't seen a break down of the internals, it still may be more impact resistant(though not rated). That's my one gripe is that I wish it was shock rated.

Also, the screen on the regular S4 has issues with atraumatic and traumatic cracking. That's one of the main reasons I traded it in for an Active.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I personally would like to see a black bumper for this phone. That way when they release the wireless charging back it wont be a pain to take the case off. It will be nice not to have to worry about removing the little cover every time
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
Look what I found: http://mobilefun.co.uk/official-samsung-galaxy-s4-active-protective-cover-plus-grey-p39733.htm hopefully it comes out through Samsung.com here so I can do 50% off because $37 plus overseas didn't appeal to me.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] planoman:
This! I have not registered my active cause you only have so long to use it lol! Att should have something in this week which should hold us till the good stuff comes.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
Last night I was almost considering sending back my Active for a regular S4 because of the lack of developer support so far and even just because of the camera. However, I've decided I'll wait it out. Besides, not many people can say their phone is waterproof.

Also, as a warning to anyone, I don't suggest going below the 1 meter mark with your phone, I dropped it in the pool to get the fun looks from people, and it worked fine after, but water got inside the back (but not inside the protected strip) and the microphone was waterlogged for the next few hours even after trying many times to dry it out.

Edit: Also for those wondering about how the two screens compare between the S4 and Active, I did a comparison in store between the two and the S4 is definitely brighter and more vivid, but both screens look great. I'm not sure how they compare outdoors though.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
What do you mean it got in the back but not into the protective strip?

Also how deep was the pool you dropped it in?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] aggieman:
when you say just because of the camera, is it because there is a drastic difference in camera performance or just because it is 8 megapixels vs 13? I'm strongly considering selling my s4 on craigslist and getting the Active, but I love the camera on the s4. I played with the Active in store yesterday and strongly prefer the LCD of the Active. I much prefer the LCD on my HTC One and the screen on the Active while not quite as sharp would allow me to sell my One without having sellers remorse.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I attached a picture showing what I mean. I just pulled a picture from the internet and threw it in paint to show where the droplets were. There was basically just drops of water scattered throughout the back. The pool was about 4ft, maybe 4.5ft.

I took a picture in an AT&T store back to back comparing the two cameras and the S4 definitely had a brighter, more realistic picture, but the Active still has a great camera. I guess I just was considering switching to the regular S4 because the standard in 2013 is 13mp, not 8mp.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
hardly, its almost the same
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] aggieman:
holding the 2 next to each other the extra girth is hardly noticeable. I would not go as far as to call this phone rugged though. That is a common misconception I keep seeing. Dustproof and waterproof? Yes. Rugged? Not in my opinion. I'll still be getting a decent case for mine when available.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
All those water droplets you posted are OUTSIDE of the rubber strip. Id say the design did it's job.

You should look into researching what makes a good camera, because "the standard is 13mp" is a terrible statement.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I can't get over the fact people are acting like 8 MP is a bad thing... It is great IMO stiull one of the best on the market. Only a few phones have better...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
I know it did its job, and I'm sure it's perfectly fine and expected that water would get into the back cover, I was just putting it out there that I think the 1 meter mark is probably a good place to stop. And I know megapixels doesn't mean good camera quality, it's the size of the image and whatnot but what I meant was that typically on newer smart phones, when they are 13mp, they're typically better than their 8mp counterparts in terms of picture quality as well.

Also, I love the Active camera, but compared to the regular S4, the S4 camera quality is noticeably better.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
After a long time in the pool it was completely dry under the cover. Now I have a different active and it looks like this one will have water under it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mattpayne92:
Well as long as it stays outside the strip, I'm happy. But that's interesting that your other active was completely dry and your new one isn't. My main concern is the other ports like the 2 microphones and the headphone jack even though they claim to be waterproof. How deep did you go with yours? Or did you just swim around with it in your pocket?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I stayed between 1-3 feet, I didn't feel like pushing it
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joeybear23:
Just ordered this from ATT for my wife.

She is coming from an iPhone 4. Finally convinced her to go Android.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHNg6x4Ba1c&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] geoff5093:
I put my phone into my water glass at a restaurant to show it off, and even though that was just a few inches of water I still got water all inside the back cover (just not the protective strip). It sounds like it did it's job perfectly, but after any water exposure I'd recommend taking the back cover off and removing any water.

I also compared the S4 Active display to my Note 2, and after seeing the crisp, bright colors and white whites I hate going back to my dull and yellow/greenish Note 2. LCD FTW!

I agree, the camera is amazing!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] aggieman:
went and picked one up from the AT&T store at lunch. Obviously still getting it set up and putting it through its paces but I love the feel of it. The screen is much more pleasant to me than the super amoled of the gs4. Still not quite as sharp as the One but I'll accept that tradeoff when you consider the bigger screen. Will probably sell my S4 and keep the S4 Active and One. With the exception of the camera, which is probably still plenty good, this is what the original S4 should have been.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] robstunner:
I still can't tell the difference between clarity with the active and the one. The one has a higher PPI because its smaller, but hands on, I really can't tell.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] aggieman:
the difference is very minute. I think each of our eyes will see them differently. To me the colors just seem to pop more and are ever so slightly more vibrant on the One. That said, it's certainly not enough of a difference that I'd notice if I didn't have the two side by side. I love the screen on the Active. One less reason for me to keep the One. I find myself using Zoe's and highlights less all the time. Might be time to get a decent return for it on craigslist while I can.

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anybody tried the Bodyguardz tempered glass screen protector? I picked one up at the AT&T store when I got the Active but haven't put it on yet. I've had good luck in the past with the Spigen Glas series and after having them I can't bring myself to buy a regular screen protector. Don't have very steady hands though so I could see myself screwing up the installation.