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[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
I think "most" is kind of a stretch. The Note has sold at a rate of about 15% of the SGS3/4 and I think the Mega and other giant phones will sell at an even lower rate. Apple sold 37M 4" iPhones in their fiscal Q2 and both Samsung and HTC have come out with "mini" versions of their flagships. I think you folks that love giant screened phones are over-estimating how many of you there are.

I guess it depends on who the audience for the Note really is. Here's who Samsung is marketing the Note-series to.

A Note without S Pen/S Note is, in Samsung's world, a "Mega." So I'd imagine there's some subset of S Pen/S Note users that would like a bigger display but Samsung must not think there are enough of them or otherwise the N3's display would be larger. For me, I'm fine with a 5.7" display because it's more than adequate to ink and multi-task on and keeps the overall size of the phone down. I'd never in a million years consider a One Max, LG OG Pro, Mega, or especially the XZ Ultra because without inking there's no reason for me to schlep around a giant phone when I have a tablet. So the N3's success depends on how many people think like me and how many people think like you. ;)

A lot of people think Samsung's missed the boat either for not making the N3's display larger or the Mega's specs higher. I guess the damage all depends on how big the market for giant phones is. People that want true inking are going to buy the N3 regardless of its display size because no other phone offers a Wacom-based inductive display with 1,024 degrees of sensitivity and true palm rejection. If the latter isn’t important to giant phone seekers and the Mega’s specs are too low either Sony, LG, or HTC would love to take their money. Again, the impact to Samsung of their choices all depends on how big the market for giant non-inking phones is. Personally, I’d peg it at somewhere between 2-5% of total smartphones sold over the next twelve months.
[Galaxy Note II General] hagba:
The word MOST was used to indicate to the non GN2 users, please read right.
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
Then who are the people you're referencing in this statement?

Up until a couple of weeks ago the N1/N2 were the only widely available big screened phones. The OG Pro saw very limited distribution as did a handful of Chinese phones. The Mega's still not available in a lot of markets and is considered a "new" phone and the same thing applies for the XZ Ultra. And the One Max is vapor at this point. So people that, to your point, "already have one" pretty much implies existing Note owners; after all this is a N2 forum. ;)

This is from an article dated July 16, 2013...

The LG Optimus G Pro was released very tentatively in Korea and the US. It seems that sales have gone pretty well these last few months, because LG is finally releasing the device in other countries. LG has announced that it will begin selling the device in 40 new countries, like Russia and across Europe, the Middle East, and Latin America. Unfortunately, there is no mention of the UK.​

http://androidandme.com/2013/07/sma...g-pro-is-being-released-in-40-more-countries/

Someone who trades a OG Pro, Mega, or XZ Ultra for a N3 is most likely doing so because of the N3's additional features or they are unhappy with their original purchase for some reason. Either way I can't see that being a ton of people meaning the majority of N3 purchasers will be either: A) new purchasers appreciative of its unique capabilities compared to other giant phones, B) people who want a bigger but not too big screen, or C) N1/N2 owners looking for "more" than they currently have. A lot of people seem to think "the bigger the better" and I'd guess that's probably not universally true. There are tumbleweeds in the XZ Ultra forum which indicate it's not exactly attracting a huge initial audience; at least on XDA.

My friends and I with N2’s (a small and not very relevant sample) are all getting N3s primarily for the improved specs, higher performance, new functionality, better battery life (hopefully), and more/updated Samsung apps. I’d guess other N2 owners in this forum that end up with a N3 probably will do so for similar reasons. And it still comes down to people that rely heavily on creation and inking (the Note's intended market) will buy the N3 over other phones because of that alone. I can see many N1/N2 owners who could care less about those things buying non-Samsung giant phones this year because there are additional choices. And that's cool because choices are always good.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/08/22...ly-snapdragon-800-variant-of-galaxy-note-iii/

Now this is really strange rumor. What Asians will do, wait more than rest of world?
[Galaxy Note II General] adytum:
When were sammobile ever correct with their "confirmed rumours"?
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
I don't know why people keep spreading the rumors for them.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
They generate for themselves. They need to drag web traffic to their site and this is the only way they will do it. In almost every of their rumor, 90% text is from last rumor.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Here...amsung-Galaxy-Note-III-photo-included_id46746

Such minimum bezel will be okay.

Sent from the New S Pen
[Galaxy Note II General] williamyi:
The site has been taken down, make me wonder if the news and picture is genuine. Anyhow, I manage to grab the picture and attach it here for thet folks viewing pleasure.

According to PhoneArena, the latest news point to 5.9 inch display with 3450mAh battery

Here is another picture webpage which I manage to retrieve http://www.phonearena.com/image.php?m=Articles.Images&f=name&id=93473&kw=&popup=1
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
That image has been around since the Note II was released. It's not real and the scale of the top speaker and sensors is disproportionate to the rest of the device which means it's not even good PS work. If you notice the front physical button and the rear design mimic the SGS3. And the SGS4 has four sensors on the front while the pic you posted only has three; like the SGS3. The (lack of) bezel on the sides would be impossible to manufacture. The LG G2 is about as thin as you'll be seeing for the near future. PhoneArena pulled it because I'm sure people were laughing at them for thinking it was real.
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...t-4K-video-offer-24-bit-192kHz-music-playback

Wow thats hell of a fake news.

Sent from the New S Pen
[Galaxy Note II General] E.Cadro:
Off topic Other Device and Upgrading Phone Discussion

Thread Closed
[About XDA developers] collins199820:
Thats what o2 say anyways!!!!!!!!! are the mods a little confused?

www.my-xda.com
[General Questions and Answers] nice_guy75:
Hi guys,

I wish to install SamHD V2.1 which is recently been released by Kumar Abhishek, but this time he has not integrated the boot.img in the zip itself but just posted the ramdisk to make updated boot.img from boot.img of stock ROM.

I am not too comfortable in using SP Flash Tool as its driver always give me trouble, now my question is:

I have made my own updated boot.img using Android Kitchen now can I just integrate the boot.img in the SamHDv2.zip and flash my device like we use to do it with the older version of the Custom ROMs, is it safe to flash like this?

Secondly, would I be able to boot my device properly after flashing SamHDv2.zip and Gapps.zip (without flashing boot.img with SP Flash Tool)?

I am asking so if it boot properly can I use MobileUncle to flash updated boot.img?

I think if I integrate updated boot.img in the SamHDv2.zip it should work fine after we used to flash in this fashion earlier also but I got to be damn sure before I go ahead.

Please guys guide me I am a newbie.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
My phone P769 10g ICS rooted. Everything worked until i decided to try RemountSD app. It didn't work, i uninstalled. Had to reset the phone because music player couldn't scan media files. After resetting phone music player worked but something happened to the root and still no wifi. Can't connect to any network. Installing CWM 1.5.0.0 only made it worse. Not properly installed possibly because of root problems or something else is wrong.

Is it possible to emergency flash it through PC/LG software with kdz either rooted or unrooted, JB or ICS. I just need a working phone in case i have to RMA or if reflashing helps with WIFI even better. WIFI passed service code diagnostic.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] dhruvbatra205:
If you can turn on the phone, use the normal kdz flashing method
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Nathan.7118391:
If the normal kdz flash method doesn't work try turning off your phone and doing it in s/w upgrade mode. Set the kdz to emergency mode. Either way you should be able to get your phone back. Good luck.

Sent from my LG-P769(20d) using the xda_developers app. if I helped you please hit the "thank you" button.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I can turn on the phone everything seems to works except for wifi and something possibly wrong with root as a result of installing/removing RemountSD app. I don't have a working CWM to do rooted JB or ICS KDZ.

Can someone link me to the standard kdz flash thread? Thanks.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Nathan.7118391:
It's ppb the general section of the thread. Should say something like ROM or KDZ files in the heading.

Sent from my LG-P769(20d) using the xda_developers app. if I helped you please hit the "thank you" button.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I'll look for it. Thanks.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Nathan.7118391:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2107971

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[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Downloading JB kdz now. Thanks.

Will use this method to flash http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2085344

Not sure if i will lose root and don't really care at this point. I'm more curious why WIFI stopped connecting and root got damaged after factory reset and if the factory KDZ will fix WIFI.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Tried flashing JB KDZ in phone update window get "Updating is not possible any longer due to a fatal error while the LG Mobile phone software update". In lower right corner small window "Please check your internet line and execute program again. Continue/Cancel".

Solved. Bad KDZ dowload.

Unsolved. Phone stuck in S/W Upgrade mode. Screen on. USB device not recognized. Bricked.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
I think I know why cwm didn't work for you, I noticed you are on p769 10g, that 1.5 is for jelly bean, try using the 1.4 version. That's if your busybox is working properly, and restore someone's cwm backup.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] tribalartgod:
I got this error at one point too. DONT FRET, IT'S FIXABLE.... This is what I did... Open your control panel on your PC, and goto add/remove programs. I uninstalled EVERYTHING LG related. Reboot. Reinstalled everything, as if I just got the phone and was just starting out. Once it's all installed again, you should be fine.

For reference, what prompted me to do this was this page: http://mobility.forumsee.com/a/m/s/...-fix-page-error-ºiºðao-when-flashing-kdz.html

Your results may vary, but I didn't have to do what's listed on that page. You "might" have to. Good luck

EDIT: Don't forget...Some apps HAVE to be run in compatibility mode, and MUST be run as administrator.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
I agree, rooting this device is not easy, I decided to make a how to video, starting off fresh, for noobs, but when I got to the flashing part, it failed three times. The first was the not connected error, so I turned on the phone then flashed, and it worked. However, the second time, while making the video, I ran in to a new error, at the part when it states checking battery level, it was telling me that I needed to charge the the phone to continue, but the phone was at 100% . I tried it on both of my laptops and Same error, so as of right now, I'm have to drain it to about. 80% then try. I hope this works (fingers crossed) so much for the video. I must be tired, time to sleep (note to self, don't go 24 hours without sleep and try to root and make a video)

good night y'all

:what:
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I did have ADB and LG software drivers installed. Uninstalled, ccleaned everything and now going to start over again. That might be the problem. Thanks.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
i thought 1.5 applies to both ICS/JB.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
No, 1.4 was for ice, but it wasn't working on jelly. So he made 1.5 and that one worked for jelly.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
CWM is no longer a problem. Phone is bricked.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Nathan.7118391:
Ok what happened? From what I understand you can't brick this phone.

Sent from my LG-P769(20d) using the xda_developers app. if I helped you please hit the "thank you" button.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I managed to brick mine.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42219171#post42219171
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Nathan.7118391:
Ok hold down the power button for ten seconds. Then do the s/w upgrade mode again. I know they say to do it while the phone is on when you are on jb but didn't work for me. Good luck dude and don't worry about it you'll figure it out just like you did the last time. Hey I was once out of a phone from Friday morning until Monday afternoon. Finally found the kdz for my other phone and I was happy! Good luck.

Sent from my LG-P769(20d) using the xda_developers app. if I helped you please hit the "thank you" button.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
lol its already stuck in s/w upgrade no matter what i do. usb driver no longer recognizes the phone -> fastboot can't install omap device. done. bricked.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
So you are saying, that as soon as you enter the battery(Not usb connected to anything), you go straight to sw mode?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
yes.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
Dang

So have you went into device manager and verified that the driver is not connecting, sorry to hear this :(
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Yes, many times. Drivers no longer load when i connect the phone. Device not recognized. OMAP driver won't load either. I've done everything. Unbrickable phone? Now need to RMA.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
What happens when you hold the up volume and connect (to your pc) phone without the battery?

You have antivirus and firewall turned off,have you tried a different pc, maybe using ccleaner, messed up your registry, try restoring your registry backup, it's worth a shot, have to think of every possibility.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
device setup OMAP driver
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
So it's connecting? I changed edited my last post
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
yes omap driver loaded but i don't see the phone in device manager. Reinstalled usb driver many times, no antivirus, no registry backup.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
There is a thread that has directions on what to do next, sorry but I never fastbooted and I never had to install the omap driver. You might want to check out Lelus page and see his previous posts to find the thread on what to do next.

Good luck bud.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
i know he pm me but still no luck with any method. possibly because i run win8/64.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
Yeah that has to be the reason, I know on window 7 x64 you have to boot your pc in recovery (I think by pressing the f8 at boot) and select the install unsigned drivers (or something like that)
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
its been a while since i used 7 but 8 is the same. I'll try it later today but not optimistic. Boot 8 in recovery, remove battery, vol up, plug in usb? OMAP driver should load? Reboot 8 in normal mode, phone should be in device manager?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
No, I was talking about allowing the installation of unsigned drivers, (sorry not recovery mode) press f8 at boot, hopefully this will help.

Check out this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=32945961

It might give you some more information on what to do, check out the part about tweaking the device manager (open an elevated command prompt and enter the command posted on that thread), to display every driver ever installed :D and delete all the LG drivers, or reinstall the omap4 driver. I have done this before but couldn't remember the steps

Note, if you had a lot of devices connected you might have a lot of drivers to look through, lol

Hope this helps and works on your Windows 8,
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
One more thing (for now that is : ) ) install virtual box or any sandbox and run a Windows XP environment, then try everything, I think I'm start doing that as well

Update, I found the thread I was talking about,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37213010

This is the directions for our device (fastboot omap4)
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I hate VM and sanbox. Not everything runs in them but i'll try.

Extract omap4boot archive somewhere like C:\omap4boot (I will use this path in the tutorial).

Power off your phone and remove the battery.

Connect your phone (still without the battery) to the PC.

You will hear the sound of a new driver, then the sound of a driver when it disconnects continiusly.

Start -> Right click on "Computer" -> "Manage".

On the left column, click on "Device manager".

You will see a device that appear and disappear under "Other/Unknown Devices".

You must right click on the unknown device before it disappear, once clicked select "Driver Update".

Click on the second button (manually install driver) and insert the "usb_drv_windows" path (C:\omap4boot\usb_drv_windows) and install the driver.

UPDATE: win8/64 detects FASTBOOT folder AND omap4boot-for_optimus-v1.21.7z file driver (not sure if they are the same) but can not install unsigned driver so i have to restart in "troubleshoot" mode.

Disabled driver signature enforcement in w8.

http://www.craftedge.com/tutorials/driver_install_windows8/driver_install_win8.html
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
What if you disable driver signature enforcement temporarily? http://www.craftedge.com/tutorials/driver_install_windows8/driver_install_win8.html ?

Are you familiar with linux- live cd or usb ?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Yes i can make live usb.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
ok let's try this way then, any 32bit distro will do, I'll post instructions in a bit.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
i have ubuntu 32/64, prefer to go w8 route.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
ubuntu 32bit live usb will be fine, boot it

download http://db.tt/JhXhTsR4 & unzip it to Desktop

Open Terminal and type following :

cd $PWD/Desktop
sudo ./start.sh

boot back to windows , put your phone properly into s/w um(no battery ,hold vol+ , plug usb cable in, press power , release vol+ and place battery back in when you see s/w um on the screen) and http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39879519&postcount=10
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Installed OMAP driver.

Put OMAP4BOOT folder in C drive

Ran start_fastboot.bat > selected option 3 for Prada

LG logo appeared on screen but i don't think its the right option for P769. Possibly wrong fastboot. Wrong OMAP driver?

Making progress. Ran fastboot, selected P769. This is what i get. Stuck <waiting for device>. Don't know if it matters but LG USB Modem still not detected in device manager. OMAP driver installed, possibly wrong? I'm not sure if OMAP is generic or device-specific.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
You have to run it as an admin.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I did. After 5 sec insert battery and nothing.

waiting for 2ndstage response...

usb_read 4

usb read = 0

unexpected 2ndstage response

<waiting for device>

phone stuck in s/w upgrade screen
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
run linux live usb, you won't have to install drivers or anything
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kuma82:
if you still don't want to run linux, open a Command Prompt window using the Run As Administrator option and enter the command:

SET DEVMGR_SHOW_NONPRESENT_DEVICES=1
devmgmt.msc

then open device manager and click the "View" tab and select "Show hidden devices".

then click the arrow next to "Other Device" and locate the OMAP4430, right click and select "Update Driver Software..." and browser to the location you have the driver saved at. This will get the omap driver working (should)
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
It looks like he got drivers installed correctly but fastboot.exe might not be getting admin privileges
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I found and uninstalled OMAP4430 driver and tried to reinstall. Have two folders in C drive. One is FASTBOOT and one OMAP4BOOT. Tried both. For the latter i selected option 3 for Prada. Still stuck <waiting for device>. Run cmd/bat files as admin. Unsigned driver enforcement disabled. Can't get LG logo on screen again. It does show up but i can't remember what i pressed. Now phone is in S/W Upgrade.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I wanted to make ubuntu live usb but couldn't find a free 8gb sd card so stuck with w8 for a few days.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
You only need 1gb
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
keep forgetting yes 1gb for live
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
I had to wait exactly 4 sec when putting the battery inside the phone. Not 3, not 5. Picky. That's what made it hang <waiting for device> in windows. Took me many tries to get the battery at the right moment. Could have done this in windows. After it was done something like this appeared in terminal window

[MENTION=1879310]@@@[/MENTION]

DONE

[MENTION=1879310]@@@[/MENTION]

I forgot to take a picture. Went back to windows, phone in S/W Upgrade, followed instructions for LG Mobile Support Tool but it doesn't see the phone. Says disconnected. Recovery doesn't detect it. OMAP driver still not installed in windows. No OMAP device in device manager. I did remove and wanted to reinstall but now can't for some reason. Cleared host file and restarted pc.

Not sure if it matters but my LG logo was inverted.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Lelus:
Everything looks alright and it seems that you flashed needed files.

When you plug your phone into a computer does anything appear in device manager ?

with the battery

without the battery

like you'd enter s/w um , holding vol+ and press power but this time do not put battery back in
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
Phone is off, usb cable unplugged > remove battery > insert battery > S/W UM, LG USB modem under Other Devices, no OMAP device

Phone off, with battery > usb cable plugged in > S/W UM, LG USB under Other, no OMAP

Battery removed, cable unplugged, hold vol+, hold pow, plug in usb > S/W UM, no OMAP device under Other

Now only LG USB Modem but before saw LG P2 under Other devices. Yesterday when i had OMAP driver installed OMAP device cycled and i right clicked to update driver but can't remember what happened next. Today before flashing in linux i deleted OMAP driver and tried to reinstall in case it was the wrong one or bad install but couldn't reinstall.