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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Tar file

If somebody is on mf3 or mf2 can't he make a system dump and turn that into a tar file so we can flash through Odin?

I might just get the i9500, it is already at MG9, I live in Israel so my phone is unlocked and I don't have a at&t SIM,

Will that effect updates?

TransformixS4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ZeroZorro:
I will receive a S4 Active (Int'l) next week, can i be usefull in any way?

I'll wait updating anything untill i uploaded any system files needed inhere.... :D
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
As far as AT&T updates are concerned you wont be able to help us. We have different firmwares and updates. The AT&T S4 Active has a locked bootloader so we can't use the international firmware updates. Thanks for the help though!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Why don't you get the i9295? it has an unlocked bootloader and a world of possibilities
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
Why listen to a local station using your data? Especially with a low data plan. Some rural areas get little to no signal but have radio. Also in disasters the towers are overloaded and you can't even call with the phone much less get info over a data connection.

Not a deal breaker but I would prefer having a radio if I could.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] rafael_mfr:
I like to listen the radio during the soccer match and as the stadium is usually crowded the signal is bad enough to listen the radio through 3G.

Above is the main reason and there are a lot I could list here ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Couldn't

I had walmart gift cards,

And they don't have any international phone. :(

I always got int' Phones.

But what about my idea of a tar file?

TransgormixS4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Good points I was just wondering. I have unlimited data so I never think from a limited point of view. I have never had the disservice of throttled data either. Makes sense and good to know!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
We would have to find a way that ODIN will allow us o flash. Not sure how that will work. But I am hopeful we will see it sometime
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Not trying to change the subject here but I have a question to anyone that signed up for the cruzerlite beta cases. Has anyone received their case yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I was accepted for it and was told it's take 2 weeks for R&D with the moulds and another 2 to ship. Hasn't quite been a month yet but I'm confident I'll get it. But I think they've closed that down now they got a good 20 people.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Yeah still waiting here. They said 14 days so get in the mind set as if it is coming from China lol

So is every Active user on our forum going to make a review of the same thing? hahaha
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Odin

To make a Odin package

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=28876440
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Will a stock custom made ODIN with MF3 pass the ODIN check? I do not know much about it but it seems like this will fail the ODIN check and we would have just wasted our time. Because what would stop us from make it custom and add our own stuff in it? Do we know exactly what the ODIN check looks for?? Locked Bootloader=the worst thing ever....
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] burtcom:
Thinking about buying unlocked Active from Expansys

I'm a current Note 1 user, tired of waiting for the Note 3, and I love what I'm reading about the Active so far.

Expansys has unlocked Actives for sale, and I'm seriously considering getting one. I've bought unlocked HTC phones from Expansys before, and had good experiences with them.

Anyone care to share if you've gotten an unlocked Active? I assume that it comes with AT&T bloatware?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
If it is the i9295 it wont have AT&T stuff because it is not the same as the AT&T i537. Pros: unlocked bootloader Cons: no LTE in the USA

Looks like Expansys has the i9295 and the i537. If you are going to get the AT&T version get it from somewhere else, it will be a lot cheaper
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] burtcom:
Thanks -- I'm on a different carrier (using GSM quad-band and EDGE) so the i9295 should do nicely.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ZeroZorro:
OK...i'll update right away and start using my touchstone as zoon as possible :)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fegarciaii:
We sure appreciate your investigative skills though... finally was able to force the download (after soft bricking the Active once), but like was mentioned in previous posts, install fails. But at least now I know what you guys are talking about!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
I was accepted also, I was just curious if anyone had gotten theirs yet.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] dajabec:
I am still waiting also. I figure it will be about another week at best.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] greeneyez15o:
I been trying to update but it keeps telling me im on latest update but im on mf2 any help ?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bubba9004:
I'm running the dump now. will post in a few. File is uploading to dropbox, but is running very slowly.

I've still not had any luck getting it to get past the 25% on install.

[MENTION=4315861]joshuadjohnson22[/MENTION]

I've been looking at things I maybe missing and I think I may have deleted something, though I'm not sure.

I did notice you had mentioned to Rename or delete wssyncmldm.apk in the Root thread. Mine is named wssyncmlds.apk though.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
JB BLUE Theme confirmed working on AT&T i537 with MF3 ONLY!

Use Flash Gordon (with busybox installed) to flash. JB BLUE Theme is here:

http://db.tt/vXVJdIyJ

Huge thanks to [MENTION=639931]carlospr21[/MENTION] for hooking it up using our MF3 framework files, and Reggie Cheeks for providing the original S4 version!

Here's mine:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I thought that too and then read this post:

I was about ready to dump all the MF3 files off my dad's virgin S4A with the dd command but it's clear that this guy knows a lot more than I do, and according to him it won't work. Additionally I attempted to peform a method detailed by AdamOutler where you initiate a firmware upgrade via KIES and then pull the firmware update out of %appdata% while the phone is updating. Unfortunately it looks like the S4A isn't capable of upgrading via KIES. Looks like we're really the bastard child of the S4 family. Maybe other people can confirm - open KIES, hit "tools -> firmware upgrade and initialisation" and follow the steps. Post back with what you find.

I sent Samsung-Updates an e-mail as a last resort. Maybe if others e-mail them we can really get their attention. Seems like they have some people on the inside who can easily fetch these updates. Bubba you can keep uploading that system dump but I don't think it's going to help - you also need to have flashed the modem and NON-HLOS modem from the MF2 update -- again only would be feasibly obtainable(from what little I know) with dd from an MF2 device and flashed with Odin or with dd, the former which developer open1your1eyes0 says wouldn't be possible, the latter which scares the hell out of me for potentially borking my modem/efs or failing a signature check somehow.

I'm almost sure there's a way to build a stock firmware image by extracting files from a rooted device per AdamOutler's post here:

but open1your1eyes0 pretty much refutes this. I don't want to bother adam as it seems every time we try to contact him we're ignored anyway(no disrespect, he's probably busy), so best not to annoy him.

I hope you've had fun reading this essay. In conclusion, I researched two different methods of doing this and I think we're screwed until we get at least one actual developer onboard.. What happened to Geohot? I was pumped that he was working with our device.

Edit: tomorrow I'm going to try to contact jcase as he seems to be very responsive and knowledgeable and hopefully he can give me some guidance.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Generally [MENTION=3682533]AdamOutler[/MENTION] will respond if you mention him in a post rather that PM him. I think he said that before somewhere.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AdamOutler:
Yep. I hate PMs. People generally send PMs that would be better for the forums. PMs give me PMS.

I don't have an s4active. I don't know how I can help. But, if you can grab all the partitions, then you can do the instructions I posted in "Packaging an Odin ROM for Size and Consistency" in the forums somewhere. Its not debatable. Samsung has a set standard which they use for packaging.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
This may not be possible on the Active yet, but is there any modified camera where we can use the power button to take a picture and the volume keys to zoom? I know you can set the volume to either zoom or take a picture, but I'd like to be able to use both. I know a lot of old Captivate ROMs had this function, so I'm hoping it's just a modified camera apk. Any ideas?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Let me add to this because I am going to add this to the OP.

You can download the white version here(MF3 active only) Thanks [MENTION=639931]carlospr21[/MENTION] for porting to the Active and [MENTION=4055140]reggie cheeks[/MENTION] for his mod

The JB Blue version can be found here(MF3 Only, same as photo above)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
I would hold off on posting links that aren't properly named. I'd really hate for someone to soft brick if they grab the wrong ones.

My post above has a link to where I've hosted the jb blue one with a proper file name. I'll do the same with the white in a second.

Edit: here ya go.

White i537 MF3 here:

http://db.tt/rCw2iGbG

JB Blue i537 MF3 here:

http://db.tt/vXVJdIyJ
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Ok (MF3 Only) is listed in the OP, the Post, and the file so I think we are good. Thanks

If someone else tries it let us know, I can't get Flash Gordon to work
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
hiya [MENTION=3682533]AdamOutler[/MENTION], just your general knowledge would be very helpful for me because It's very likely I could do something wrong here. Your knowledge of the S4 will probably help too. This device has the same partition mounts:

lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 aboot -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p6
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 apnhlos -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p1
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 backup -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p23
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 boot -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p20
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 cache -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p18
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 efs -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p10
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 fota -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p22
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 fsg -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p24
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 m9kefs1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p13
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 m9kefs2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p14
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 m9kefs3 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p15
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 mdm -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p2
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 modemst1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p11
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 modemst2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p12
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 pad -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p9
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 param -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p19
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 persdata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p26
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 persist -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p17
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 recovery -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p21
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 rpm -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p7
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 sbl1 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 sbl2 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p4
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 sbl3 -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 ssd -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p25
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 system -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p16
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 tz -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p8
lrwxrwxrwx root root 1970-02-06 11:38 userdata -> /dev/block/mmcblk0p27

So based on those is this all I'd have to do? I based this list of files off a tarball you posted for the I337. Am I missing any partitions that should be included?

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p6 of=/sdcard/aboot.mbn bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p20 of=/sdcard/boot.img bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p18 of=/sdcard/cache.img bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p27 of=/sdcard/hidden.img bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p2 of=/sdcard/modem.bin bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 of=/sdcard/NON-HLOS.bin bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p21 of=/sdcard/recovery.img bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p16 of=/sdcard/system.img bs=4096
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p8 of=/sdcard/tz.mbn bs=4096

and then use the tool here to format system, userdata and cache into ext4? Or if left the way they are are they already formatted as ext4? And then of course create a tar and add an md5sum.

Additionally, we have a locked bootloader. Just to clarify, this is still possible on a locked down device?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bubba9004:
[MENTION=4434032]thatbigmoose[/MENTION] here is the

Link

to system dump. Sorry for the delay. was uploading extremely slow last night and I had to be at work this morning.

Did you notice my post with regards to the wssyncmlds.apk?

If someone could send me their wssyncmldm.apk it would be much appreciated
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newbie2006:
here you go

and can anyone tell me how to update mf2 to mf3?

I read back a few pages and do not know how too - i am rooted on mf2 - but cant get this thing to download the ota...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bubba9004:
Thanks, I need the odex half as well.

You need to temp unroot the phone and then make sure to clear the cache of the updater
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] bubba9004:
did you use titanium backup to clear the data/cache of At&t software update?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fegarciaii:
I had no luck clearing the at&t software update cache/data with titanium backup... had to use ROM Toolbox lite to do it... works like a charm...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
Any one else haveing issue's with cell signal? this phone get's horrible cell phone reception in low signal area's compared to my last 2 phone's ( samsung rugby pro htc one )
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newbie2006:
Hmmm maybe I deleted this app...

AT&T updater I do not see. Can anyone upload that apk?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Mine was kinda bad at first but got a lot better over time... Idk why. It's great now
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fegarciaii:
lets see if this works... my att software update apk
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] davenger1:
U need to install APK as system app set permissions and reboot and it will create the odex half.

---------- Post added at 11:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:31 PM ----------

Mine has been solid since day 1! Better than my Skyrocket ever was.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newbie2006:
cant clear it with Tib and ROM Toolbox lite keeps crashing...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fegarciaii:
seems like that happened to me using rom toolbox lit when I tried to clear cache. .. but clearing data works.. I mighta had to reboot a time or two also.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newbie2006:
thanks for the help - just cant clear it - every app either does not show it - or rom toolbox lite crashes as soon as i lauch app manager - very odd.

Rebooted many times...

I see someone uploaded the files - i wonder if i place them in the "fota" folder - how do i get the phone to install it after that?

:confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
Very cool with the toogle mod I have baseband MF2 anything thing I can do?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] paleh0rse:
Maybe send your framework files to [MENTION=639931]carlospr21[/MENTION] and ask him nicely to mod them for the color of your choice. Make sure he knows that yours are for MF2, rather than the MF3 files we've already given him. He can/should then name the files accordingly so that there aren't any mix ups.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sleze:
I think we should move this mf3 discussion to its own thread
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
Is there a way to force the ota mf3 on my s4 active? Ive been waiting and it just keeps saying im on current software.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sleze:
All I had to do was restore wssyncmldm.apk in system/app folder and I unfroze FWUpgrade and LocalFOTA (even though I never read that I had to), rebooted and checked for upgrade.

Once it completed, I had to uninstall and then reinstall activeroot and voila: upgraded and rooted.

That being said, I still don't know what the fuss is all about wrt this upgrade.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
This may be a noob question but is there any way to update to MF3? when I rooted my phone I removed all the update stuff so it does't do anything when I click check for updates...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
I think I need KNOXAgent.apk as I removed it can some one please upload this thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] newbie2006:
Same boat and can not really get a narrowed answer - seems that what works for others is not working for us.

Then someone uploaded the cache and fota file - from the update a few pages back +ATT UPDATE OTA) - but i copied that into my fota folder - but can NOT get it to install.

So it seems we are stuck on MF2 - i done everything - EXCEPT clear the cache with rom tool kit lite - when i attempt to run the app it crashes. When i try it with Tib it does not give me an option to clear cache on the update files.

SO whatever we did it borked the update from happening. When i Click on update software form settings - nothing happens at all - no reponse - nothing - like its a completely disabled function.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
I can not even find att updater in titanium backup...and what is the fota file? you mean the wssyncmldm.apk? if so I copyed that and cache file to system/apps and nothing changed... I wonder if removing the KNOXAgent.apk has anything to do with it...if someone could upload that I would be grateful
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Have any of you tried doing a system restore after unrooting and uninstalling all the Mods(restoring all the apks) ? I figure this should do the trick
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
I want to leave that as a last resort as it took me awhile to set my phone up how I like it..unless there is a way I can back everything up without cwm
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
I used Odin to go to mf1 completely stock haven't rooted or deleted anything. The system updater says my version is up to date. Which I know to be false
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I'm sorry I meant that for MF2 users
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
I do have a question, it may be dumb but have you tried getting all the att update apks from MF2 user? Maybe the current one on MF1 points to a pre-release server
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
do you need to unroot to get update? how do you with out flashing odin and being stuck at mf1?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Voodoo app will allow a temp unroot. Or just go to supersu go into settings and do a full unroot. You will also need to reverse any mods your have done. Get all apks back to stock, no busy box and so on
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] renegaderon:
I'm having the same problem you are trying to update from mf1, I have managed to get the update by modifying the build prop, but it fails at 25%.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
This might be great news. If we ODIN back to MF1 and edit the build prop BEFORE rooting we might be able to update just fine. Can anyone try this? Could you post what you did to the build prop?

Scratch that... I forgot you have to root it BEFORE modifying lol fail
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
Ok now would I have to do away with the dark mms and boot animation mods? also I dont even have att updater in my apps is it because I am missing the KNOXAgent.apk?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Yes, I would take away any reason to fail. You can always reapply after the update
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
where can i get the KNOXAgent.apk at I cant find it on google or any other fourms!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
You probably need to get it from a user here. Anyone with MF2 have this apk. We need to start a new thread with all the files, framework, update, and so on for the different versions.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
hope so one uploads it I think thats my problem
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] renegaderon:
Here it is
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] renegaderon:
Do you need the Odex file
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
Thank you for uploading how ever I unrooted and removed busy box installed the apk's and when I click software update nothing happen's Im lost...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Someone who already has MF1 can you re-odin and root(ONLY no other mods), edit the build prop and unroot and try updating
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] renegaderon:
Ill try it now
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
Well when removing root it corrupted my phone...does a basic factory reset reinstall apk's? or only a odin restore?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
You can try it but when I did that all my custom APK stayed.

At least that will get you to the point where you can fix them
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] kjfan985:
I figured they would...well now I learned never delete the apks only rename them LOL I will wait till renegaderon try's the odin way hopefully it work's
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I know you're only holding out hope but I already gave a pretty concrete statement a few pages back explaining why this won't work.

It checks literally hundreds of system files - fine - we can replace them with the ones from MF2 if you have a lot of time to burn.

It also checks the modem partitions. So we'd need to extract and flash the MF2 modems, both of them. Extracting: easy. Flashing: not.

We're screwed. I contacted jcase and he told me he has little knowledge of the new bootloaders and that he's currently traveling. Adam replied to me once and then seemingly stopped. I've literally never made an Odin tarball before and creating one by extracting the partitions from a device and getting it to flash on a locked bootloader is probably way over my head. We're at a brick wall and I don't think people should waste their time trying things like this.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
So us that are stock no root are at the mercy of the att update server to hopefully roll out the mf3 update randomly one day?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] fegarciaii:
tried it a few days ago based on what moose and bubba were working on... downloaded the update successfully, but like moose just described, fails at install.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
So... Time for people to start donating to bootloader development. Luckily I am still at mf3
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
No. My post above only applies to those who have flashed the pre-release MF1 firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] yankeesfan714:
I used the Odin 1click MF1. So that's me too right?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I537
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
I'm 90% sure you can dump the partitions off a device and make an Odin flashable image out of them. I'm just not smart enough and something like that has little documentation here on XDA.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] joshuadjohnson22:
Maybe a specific bounty will get a devs attention?

Thanks for your hard work. I wish we could just save up enough money and buy one of these devs an active and then we will be set
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] thatbigmoose:
Well yeah, AT&T could push an update for MF1 devices if they really wanted but why would they? They know anyone with that firmware is screwing around with their device and they pretty much just gave the whole Dev community the middle finger with their recent statement about bootloader locking.