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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Some details I managed to find out regarding our phone:

- Fastboot seems to be disabled :eek: (damn you LG!)

- They have this "Download mode" which is entered if you press power button while having the phone connected via USB to the PC. In this mode it should be able to download firmware using LG software (in case you soft-brick your phone). Overall this looks like fastboot replacement from LG which is not fastboot compatible.

So to answer your question, yes, if this firmware from link you gave is correct you should be able to restore firmware in case of a soft-brick using this Download mode.

I am not sure where this Download mode is implemented but I suspect it is located in "aboot" partition. In any case do NOT touch any partitions other than system, cache, userdata, boot and recovery and you should be OK (by ok I mean able to get out of soft-bricked state).

In theory these SoCs fall back to external SD boot in case one ends up with a hard-brick (you would have to partition external SD card according to partition scheme of internal emmc and populate these partitions with proper images). This is not tested with our device though and won't be unless someone manages to truly hard-brick his device at some point.

You are soft-brick proof as long as you have working recovery (that is you don't touch recovery partition at all or you flash my CWM recovery I posted in this thread earlier).
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] hodostamas:
Huh, that was useful, thanks!

Last queston :) Is there any indicator, etc.. like some Samsung phone, to the service can lookup that I reflashed rom? (I want root, but with the chance to have a guarantee again)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Yes, LG can check if your device was rooted or if busybox was installed etc. It has Daemon called Root Check Tool running which checks these things and saves this data on persist partition. This Daemon also checks if this partition itself was modified by the user (which leads me to thinking there is a copy of it somewhere, or a checksum at least to check the integrity).

In theory it should be possible to fix this up of course but at the moment you have to accept that they will know you rooted your device.

On the other hand there is EU directive (don't remember which now) that says you can't lose warranty for your device if you modify the software only. So if you double check this directive is still in and if you bought the phone within EU you should be ok.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] uroshnish:
LG L9 II is not that bad XD
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Wait so if I root my phone LG will know and when I send it in for warranty they will decline it?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
They can, if they can prove you did it.

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
What do you mean by that? Like me personally or if it has been done on purpose? And unroot or flashing original ROM wont help?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
All newer LG phones have this root detection daemon. Unroot and flashing original ROM won't help. They have special partition where they save information about some root related operations. So far I know Root Check Tool detects and reports appearance of "su" binary, busybox installation and tampering with the special partition used by Root Check Tool.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Wow I had no idea about that, thats not really good. Is there any workaround to this or when I root Im just on my own? Btw you said something about EU, I live in Europe, is that going to change something?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Why are you so nervous about the warranty? As long as you don't damage hardware or hardbrick it you are safe.

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Well what if after few months of using it your wifi module stops working or anything else gets broken and you need to send it for replacement?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Well, you can always throw it at a wall :)

But seriously, phone service doesn't cost so much these days ;)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Well I would say it depends on where are you from. What if they need to replace the MB? Thats not cheap. I personally would probably root just to use directory bind since the storage is quite small. So I can either hope nothing will break on the phone or not root at all right?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Ye
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
One way is to not bind directories and save up the storage space

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Well yeah but its only 4gb, there is not much to save. Ill save all my files to the SD card but its enough that you install few games and the internal storage is filled instantly.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
That is exactly the reason I want to root my phone :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Well yeah, thats why Im even more confused now, with this root checking thing. Is it worth to root just so you can move around apps? Which should be default option?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Easiest would be to remove few games and only keep stuff you use most. I too play a lot of games, but I am not having a storage issue :)

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Well yeah maybe I wont need it but I was thinking in the future. But maybe I will want to add some mods, tweaks and so on. That would be worse. Btw, any chance there will be a dedicated thread for our device?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
You see, Grand theft auto San Andreas is coming this week, and it can take 3> GB :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
But obb can be moved to sd card can't it?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] kambo12:
I don't think so. On Apple devices it has 1.6GB, so on Android it could has about 2GB. I think LG L9II run it without big problems.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Nope. At least obb moving doesn't work for gameloft games...
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] kambo12:
To do this you need only root and right app for example FolderMount.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Sir, you just made my day :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Do you guys think its going to work or not?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Yes, of course, support for GTA 3 and GTA Vice City was added last week ;)

If you are on Rockstar's support list, that means teh all Rockstar's games will work for ya :)

And our phones got quite a bit hardware ;)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
So it looks it might even come in a few days :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] benaskz:
can i flash with cwm any mod? or it is dangeres ?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Read this thread and you will know

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Varcain, are you porting CM? Or we have to wait for someone else to do it?

(One thing more, is there a way you could make the recovery a little bit(like 2 px) bigger, it's kinda tiny now)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
I started doing that, from initial attempts I know there is a problem with LG official kernel - there are some definitions from headers missing which cause hw/qcom/display and hw/qcom/display-caf variants to fail during build (gralloc parts mostly). I need to check how to fix that in a correct way. Worst case situation would be having to patch the kernel up. Patches should be easy to find from Code Aurora Forum but this will take some time to be done.

In other words I am porting CM 10.2 but it's going at slow pace at the moment.

Regarding CWM Recovery font size I agree, I will update github repo and compile new binary for you guys with bigger text font size.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
*EDIT*

Is there a way I could help?

(Why does recovery create /storage/sdcard0/0/clockworkmod/ ?)

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Well pull request on my kernel github repo with correct patches for graphics stuff mostly would be the best.

Regarding directory I have no idea why there is "0" directory, but after quick googling I found that this happened with TWRP recovery too. This seems to be JB 4.2 and 4.3 thing (I used CM 10.2 as base for this recovery build).

"clockworkmod" directory should be there as far as I know, for storing logs at least.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Gta SA is out bro's, flawless on LG L9 II :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] izmenar:
just got the phone, its pretty good.

hope it will get android 4.4 from Lg or CM11, it would make the phone much nicer

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i just saw that at 128.4 x 66.5 x 9 mm the lg l9 II (D605) is the smallest phone in the world with a 4.7 inch screen !
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Aeras76:
System Dump

Upload pls system.img or System CWM Backup ftom LG D605
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
How can I get those?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Aeras76:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1994598
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Varcain how far are you with porting CM?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Any updates?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
After more build failures I managed to find out CM 10.2 needs to be built with CAF display code variant which needs kernel patches for our official LG kernel from CAF kernel. First thing I will try next is CM 10.1 as a fallback to have custom ROM up and running faster (if it builds and works that is). To have CM 10.2 working I need to patch kernel and this is long and tedious work to get it patched up properly. In other words stay tuned.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
I dont want to mess here with your development stuff so this is a bit OT but did you guys try themer? Does it work on this phone? :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
a) Your post isn't off-topic

b) Yes, themer works

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
a) In regards to last few pages, yes, overall no :)

b) Thanks. Is it also possible with themer to change the app drawer, maybe also the dialer, etc.? Do themes have this capability?

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Good news guys :) http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-include-knock-standard-feature-l-series-ii-devices
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] TaZRAge:
Well as far as I have seen, Themer changes EVERYTHING on this device. So it appears it works fantastic on the D605 =)

Hope to see a "working" beta of CM10.1 then soon [MENTION=5534579]Varcain[/MENTION].

If there is anything I as enduser can do to help you, please let me know =)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Could you post some screenshots if possible? :)

I have also other question guys, I would like to know if its possible to customize the stock UI design? Not with launcher or other apps, but direct edit of system files. For example if I would want to change the color of the icons in the status bar, or maybe change the background of the bar (or make it transparent?). Does this require root and do I need to do some flashing, or something with roms etc.? Im noob so I have no idea how this works :) I appreciate any help ;)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] TaZRAge:
Wanted to show you some nice screens... then i realized, the dialer is still unchanged... the only thing themer changes is the app drawer and then it keeps the same on every themer theme. But i like that ;)

Now it scrolls vertical and not horizonal any more and it has a little transparency. Going to tweak a little maybe i find out more.

Afaik you need to have root to change the desired things without a app that manages things for you... but i don't really know for sure ;)

Get yourself the themer, that one is great ;)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Varcain enter 3845#*605# to access hiden menu. Do you know how we could disable LG RTC check? (I think that menu is quite scary, all those monitors *brrr*)

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] kambo12:
Its not working, because it must be 3845#*605# you just mistake digits.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
EDIT: oops wrong number

This is interesting http://androidforums.com/lucid-2-al...ition-5-7-13-full-technical-notes-inside.html

Micro USB to HDMI works for our phone?

That's the thing I want to get rid of

What's thermal migitation and high temperature property?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
thermal mitigation and high temperature property is something you can toggle for better phone performance (games, benchmarks, etc.) at cost of increased heavy load operating temperatures. You can basically disable functions that would scale some system clocks down (or screen brightness) when the phone gets too hot.

Personally I wouldn't touch it - keeping the phone cool is good for the battery and everything is smooth enough already.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] zesped:
Hi, my phone doesnt have this menú, have other options. For example doesnt have lg rct test, and the options are in other order.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
But what about that LG RCT, any chance we could reset it? (And I still didn't get it, does USB->HDMI cable work, by that menu it seems so :))

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Well, I have no idea how from slow micro USB port it is possible to speed up the transfer speed up to 20 mb/s (hdmi speed) or more :/
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Our phone has 2.0 HS

That means 480Mbit/s or 35MB/s

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Oh, okay then
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Maybe it is hw supported but sw components are missing? Does someone have a MHL 5-pin cable?

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
What does LG RCT test mean? Does it have to do something with root?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Root Check Tool

Yes, it checks your root status, I really want CM to get rid of those things, I think there may be more stuff hiding :/

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
So if we would be able to reset the RCT, it wouldnt void the warranty?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
If we reflash the ROM then it should restore the warranty, but resetting it might work too, unless it blows some hw fuses.

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Is someone going to try it? :D Btw, is it possible to get access to the root status? I mean so you can check if the reset worked.

The exact same value that LG would be able to check when the phone would be sent in for RMA
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
call the service menu number and check it :)

Does someone have access to a 5-pin mhl cable? I would really like to know it it works(displaying the test video on a TV). There is a checkbox at the top, when you check it it allows you to edit the resolution :)

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Sorry to burst your bubble but HDMI output is not enabled in standard kernel. I don't know if it's supported by hardware yet. Anyway HDMI won't work. I suspect it's not supported by the HW because LG is using SlimPort for that in phones and SlimPort requires special transmitter chip. I doubt this chip is present on our D605.

Edit: MHL requires transmitter chip as well, so this looks like a no go.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
Thanks for clearing things up, it would have been nice if it had :)

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
I don't think that is possible, because we will never know what the original rct file was.

When we root, we get the broken rct. And if we want to access rct, we have to root. That makes a circle without exit :(
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
But if we reflash/restore original ROM+recovery it should work, if it doesn't then RCT has blown some hardware fuses. If someone wants warranty back then he/she should try and let us know what RCT tells at the secret menu...

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
http://matija.suklje.name/rooting-and-flashing-your-device-does-not-void-the-warranty-in-eu
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
But which is now true, so only if they can prove that the damage was caused by me rooting the phone, only then they can decline the repair?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
According to the law apparently yes, but you have to do it with vendor (where you bought the phone at), not directly at LG.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Yeah, I will send it to the seller but wont they just ship it to the LG straight ahead?

Probably they have a service center or something, but what if not?

And thanks for the link :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
But if phone is bricked in the process?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
I would say that counts as your fault, you may have done something wrong and as a result the phone is bricked. So it will be declined
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Guys which method for root are u using? I found one tutorial for vRoot, that chinese app. Then a lot of times I found a reference to this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2448085.

Also there is LGPwn.apk but Im not sure if it works with L9 II, it worked on L9.

Which one is the best?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Cydia Impactor is the good one I think. I wouldn't trust any chinese app. I could run Cydia Impactor on my Linux machine at least.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Cydia is the one on this forum? Also did you root by this one? So its basically just open the .exe and its done?

If you could answer me this one more question I would be grateful :) I already asked this but didnt get the answer. Is it possible to customize the stock UI design? Not with launcher or other apps, but direct edit of system files. For example if I would want to change the color of the icons in the status bar, or maybe change the background of the bar (or make it transparent?). Does this require root and do I need to do some flashing, or something with roms etc.? Im noob so I have no idea how this works.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] pavlos1908:
Any infos if this model will be updated to 4.3 or 4.4 ? I mean official android roms..
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
No, but thinking that this model was released around November, we can assume there will be 4.4
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Regarding root:

Yes, you just open the program and then select "drop SuperSU su to /system/xbin/su" from the selection box and click "start" (remember to enable USB debugging from Developer options in the phone and install drivers first - you need working ADB driver). You don't need to do anything else from this program GUI after that. When you are done with Cydia Impactor just install SuperSU from Google Play and you are good to go. And yes I rooted my phone with Cydia Impactor (but from the Linux binary, not Windows). It's always best to download from official source which is http://www.cydiaimpactor.com/

Regarding customization - XPosed framework might be what you are looking for but it wasn't tested with our stock rom yet. It might cause bootloop so I didn't try it yet.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Thank you, I just wanted to know that this program works well with our phone. ADB is universal driver? If I download drivers from LG website, is it ok?

Btw is SuperSU required? From what I've read it accepts or declines apps that require root access? Do i need it for root to work or just for apps that require root to work?

Oh okay, hopefully it will work. I just want to customize the UI a little.

Thanks again for help :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
If you don't install SuperSU you can have root only from ADB console. If you want root access from apps you need SuperSU.

LG drivers from their website or from the phone itself (when you have LG software mode when connected to USB it launches as driver/pc suite installation disk) are fine.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
And if for example I just want root to move apps to SD card, I dont need SU right? Ill probably install it since it says everywhere but just to know how it works :)
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
Looks like you need SuperSU for root in ADB shell as well, my mistake.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
XPosed works nice, but causes bootloop at every module enable/disable, so you have to remove battery and next time it boots normally.

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
For those interested in CM porting progress, I decided to handle the kernel first (it's too old for CM 10.1 as well). I managed to find good merge base commit from CAF kernel and within next few days I will focus on merging in LG changes and patching the kernel up to more current state.

You can follow the progress here:

https://github.com/Varcain/android_kernel_lge_d605
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sh4d0Wx:
Thanks :) Last thing, is there a way to do unroot with Cydia? Or I would have to flash original ROM?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Avamander:
I hope there will be more devs than just one for our phone. My 4-year-old LG P500 still has few active devs and a load of roms to choose from.

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[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] LiudvikasLTU:
Yeah, it's strange, low cost phones always have crapload of developers
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] glockbite:
I'm interested in this phone, my Google-foo has found nothing on when this phone will be in the states as well as us pricing. I have read the first four and last four pages on this thread and have come up blank. Can somebody fill me in on this? Thanks. I really enjoyed my l9 but the memory is killing me and I currently have no computer to root it so I would rather just upgrade to l9 2. I have metro btw.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Varcain:
L9 II is still unavailable in the US? This is odd, this explains why we don't have so many users yet(let alone developers). It might be we will need a year from now until we get big enough user/developer base. I also owned LG P500 and it was pretty old phone back then.

I'm trying to kickstart some development for this phone so it will attract more users which are chosing the phone based on aftermarket ROM availability as well (which is a good criterium itself).

We have kernel source code, working root and unlocked bootloader (through Loki tool, which technically is not actual unlock but works the same as unlock in the end). This is basically everything we need to get any aftermarket ROM up and running.

It's only matter of patching up the kernel mainly towards graphics stuff (gralloc, media, etc.) to get us some ROMs flowing. Of course I invite everyone to send patches/pull requests to my d605 kernel repo. I'm up for official CM maintainer role in the future once I get that far with my porting, I will need you guys then to test and confirm this stuff works as it should.

I think the situation will get better once this model launches worldwide. This is not their flagship product so we won't get as much attention as LG G2 gets right now or as LG G and 4X HD did.