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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
I do not think that is possible at this point, the GE roms are TW based, I am sure the devs are all over this. I could be wrong, I just don't see how they can incorporate the 2.

Ax says, good luck!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Fusoya_:
Another great thread. Very helpful.

Thanks for putting this together.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thatpimp007:
Great thread. Thanks for sticky.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] watersnatcher:
Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jai112:
thankx
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bo8:
This was one of, if not the first thread I read prior to getting my I337M. With its info I was better able to understand the Android world, or at least a tiny part of it.

Came from many years of being a Crackberry user.

Second day with the S4, rooted without issue. Thank you!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pyrotechr:
thank you... the perfect sticky thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] walletless:
n00b question

I am sure this is a n00b questions since someone else would have had a similar need :)

I got the AT&T branded S4 I-337 and love some of the customizations done by Samsung. However, I prefer some parts that were in the vanilla play-store experience as well. Is there any way I can get the vanilla play-store experience on my S4, but also retain the following apps from Samsung's version of S4?:

1) Email app - love conversation view in Samsung's email client when I use my work email (exchange)

2) Smart Scroll - the eyeball tracking thing that automatically scrolls when you move your head... its slick!

3) Touchwiz - the home screen on Samsung is pretty darn good!

But I want to get rid of all the other AT&T and Samsung apps.. I do like the camera app in the vanilla play-store experience where you can capture 3D 360-degree photos..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] oddspec:
Ur best bet is to flash the Google edtion ROM once u get root and recovery for that baseband the ge ROM has the aosp camera with photosphere but not sure what features u lose tw vs ge u lose something's each side kinda hard to have the best of both ATM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
You could also try changing the build.prop file to the google edition or international or nexus device to see if that changes the play store experience..not sure if it will
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] walletless:
Yes, that is an option my friend has tried.. but you don't get the cool Samsung stuff that way.. I guess, I more want base Samsung experience, minus the AT&T spamware.. and plus a couple things like photosphere...

Thanks, I will give that a try... my friend has the base nexus device experience on his S4 - will see if I can ask him to try that for me..

Does any one know if the OTA updates work with custom ROMs? I would hate to manually update each time if I went with the base Nexus experience...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] drWIDOWMAKER:
I have an AT&T S4 1337 rooted with TWRP recovery. I have read that it is important to reset your binary counter, but when I try to install triangle away it does says that I cannot run the program.

Also, is there something that I could flash that would strengthen my WIFI capabilities?

I am very NOOB at this point so any help that you could give would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
The only reason to worry about the binary counter is if you plan to return your phone to Samsung for warranty repairs. I don't believe that triangle away will work on the ATT version because of the locked bootloader so you wont be able to reset it anyway in this case unless someone figures out how ( I wouldn't put it past chainfire to figure it out...)

Im pretty sure that the WIFI signal strength is controlled by the kernel. I haven't seen any that specifically reference improved WIFI for our device yet but that doesnt mean they don't exist :cyclops:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] drWIDOWMAKER:
I appreciate the info! I switched from iPhone 5 to Samsung s4 and I love it. Jailbroke every iPhone I had but the s4 is a little different. Thanks for the help! :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TornSack:
Thanks

Great guide
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Frogacuda:
So, I'm about to upgrade and I wanted to pick up an S4 on AT&T, but if it has root locked out, I'm not going to.

If I get a new phone next week, is it going to already have this update installed out of the box? Is there anything that can be done about it if it does?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] InkSlinger420:
You can also flash a similar radio files to get better strength. All you need to do is find a phone similar to yours and get the radio zip. I run the galaxy exhilarate and flash the skyrocket radio.zip and my signal triples....just a heads up...but always do a backup before flashing any system mod...

sent from my SGH-I577/LiquidSmooth/1.5oc LZ kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:


I'm not sure if the AT&T phones are shipping with the latest firmware yet...but if they are there isn't anything you can do about it.

If you want to make sure you can install custom Roms then buy the tmobile phone which can be used on AT&T network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ciretos:
Loki Doki?

I recently flashed a custom ROM called CleanROM 1.5 which is based on AT&T, it's working great so far even though it's the first time I flashed ROM on my phone. If I want to flash stock android 4.3 onto my phone, do I need to flash Loki Doki? Several guides I looked at show the model number requires it, I just want to make sure that I need to flash Loki Doki...

thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] left2swiss:
thank you, this is great.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
Loki is explained in the OP. Please read up on it :) if you still are confused then send me a pm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AstronomicaI:
Say if I rooted my S4, installed a custom recovery and a ROM, if I wanted to completely go back to stock should I do a clean flash or dirty flash? Just switch from iPhone to Android a couple days ago..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bo8:
Definitely clean flash! Not worth the risk of something or somethings going wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ciretos:
I can flash custom ROM using twrp 2.6. For some reason, after the initial set (Google accounts, updates and etc), it would work fine. When I tried to reboot the phone or restart, it would stuck at Samsung boot logo. I can get into twrp recovery mode fine, but I can't see to figure out why it is doing that.

I'm trying to flash CleanROM 1.5, previously was stock android 4.3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
need more info. phone version/carrier

exact wiping/flash procedure
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] InkSlinger420:
Have you wiped the big 3 before flash?? Factory..cache..dalvic...then flash rom and gapps..that may help you out...

sent from my SGH-I577/LiquidSmooth/1.5oc LZ kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
If you are on an AT&T phone you probably need to Loki the Rom. Flash Loki Doki zip file after the Rom flash & before rebooting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Vaygr:
Educational

So helpful, learned a great deal, thx a lot!:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ciretos:
I'm using Canadian Galaxy S4 on Rogers Model number SGH-I1337M,

I think I made it worse :( Now i can't get into twrp mode by button press, all i did was download goomanager and install twrp bootloader again, tried to reboot and now it can't even get into twrp.

Can I install twrp in download mode?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I don't think so. You don't need loki-doki on the 1337m you have an unlocked bootloader. You can flash roms, kernels as is.

I would not use goo mgr to flash recoveries, do it thru recovery itself. Get twrp 2.5.02 when you get sorted. I have link if you need it. It is a flashable zip.

Since we don't know, I will make an assumption and suggest you do LOTS of reading before flashing any rom/kernel etc. I do and have done this for 3.5 years and hundreds of flashes. But, each phone brand has its own procedures. I read extensively before doing anything as there are so many variances for this phone atm. US and EU roms, multiple kernels, unlocked and locked phones etc etc.

As asked about your flashing steps, suggest you wipe system/data/both caches before flashing roms. Do not do a Format Data thru tru twrp. Go to the Advanced button and check each box individually. After kernel flash wipe caches and fix permissions before booting.

If you do this sorry for speech--;)

As to your predicament you may need to Odin back to stock and start over. I haven't done that yet and would have to research it again to get it right.

One thing on not getting into twrp are you doing it right and releasing all buttons as soon as you see the blue booting words at top left of screen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sky_fox:
I agree with rug . He is correct you need to stop experimenting for now and go straight to Odin and flash a firmware , make sure you don't flash the new updated locked down firmware . OH actually you have Canadian variant so just download the firmware that is currently on your phone from sammobile just to be safe . Put your phone into download mode first then connect it to PC. Start Odin and flash new firmware. Then just use your choice of program to unlock bootloader. Boom!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sky_fox:
What's up guys my favorite thread is dead tonight Lol. Where are you guys???? Anyways just wanted to show you guys my new set up. I practice code, create music through my DAW , and some friendly hacking from my work station. Anyways just got my TV put back in so I'm pretty excited.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Awesome :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thavanhob:
how do I root MF3?

I just couldn't get my galaxy s4 from at&t root which it have MF3 on it. So how do I root it or is it anyways to get away from it? Please help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shop.Cpuwarehouse.net:
How great is this phone?

I'm wondering how great this phone is, I have an iPhone 3GS, it's not bad, but I've been not liking the inflexibility of apple. I'm due for an upgrade on sept 4, and have been trying to get some opinions on all of them. So far the samsung galaxy s4 looks like the best, but want to hear from people that have it the pros and cons.

Thank you,

David Hurst
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Enzium:
Hello to all :) not entirely sure if Im posting in the right section, but this is my situation. I have canadian galaxy S4 SGH-l337m on Telus. Im currently rooted by means of motochopper and have backed up my phone entirely with Titanium backup pro. I see via Kies that there is the awaited firmware update that allows apps to sd ect.... Id like to update my phone and retain or re-root afterwards. Ive been told I can use CF Auto Root and odin to achieve this?? Im trying to obsorb more info as to what steps I should be doing. Ive learned each phone is different, I dont want to screw anything up. Could someone please point me in the right direction?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bo8:
You might get more responses in this thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cdnchris:
Thanks for this. Super helpful for a relative newbie to get up and rolling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] josh8519:
help

can i flash the hyperdrive rom for verizon on my att s4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cj1221:
freeze

i found both other ones but i didnt find FWUpgrade
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] drWIDOWMAKER:
Great post! Very helpful
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
You can re root your phone or try a root keeper app.

Or...If you look in the development forums you may find a pre rooted stock Rom that you can just flash from recovery instead of doing the OTA update.

:thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Don't take OTA if you ever want to flash roms. Do like Rastabolino said and get a stock mf3 rom for your phone. Best of both worlds--:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 2Tone5:
The ota for Canada isn't mf3 , it's MG1 ... you can flash this ota and still have root... you'll lose it but you can get it back again in like 30 seconds ... so you have options. You can update to MG1 via ota, reroot ... you can stay on the MDL firmware and just update the modem.bin to the MG1 version in my forum or you can try out ibastids MG1 version and leave your modem on MDL... let me know if you need help

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Meant to multi quote .. sorry bro.. read the post above
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Oops, missed that. :(

Too many phones in one forum. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 2Tone5:
I hear you lol nothing like the one s :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I thought I remembered you from there. Good to see you here. Love this phone too. My eyes appreciate the bigger screen. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 2Tone5:
Don't wanna clog up the thread but I concur :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Enzium:
Great! Thankyou for your responses :) Now if I was to go the OTA route how shall I go about making my status go from 'custom' to Official to aquire the update? 30seconds to get root back using CF Auto Root and Odin?? You mentioned leaving my modem on MDL? My build number currently ends with MDJ does this change anything as far as re-rooting? lol so many different numbers and letters to remember I get confrustraded.... what would be the purpose of leaving my modem on MDL/MDJ? Im kinda thinking if its easy to re=root after ota updating I'll go that route....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 2Tone5:
You'll need triangle away to get back to official status. If your going to ota then you'll be on MG1 firmware which will also change you're modem from MDJ to MG1... there's no purpose really besides the update giving you better signal battery life ect. If you don't like it you can always go back
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Enzium:
So once my status is back to Official....rather than OTA updating can I do the following? :

-Flash the MG1 firmware (rom/kernel/modem) using Odin?

-And then re-root using CF-Auto Root? via these instru? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2293800

What version of odin should I download for my paticular phone(3.x..)? and should I use Odin for my pc or use mobile odin?

And can I 'inject' root during the firmware MG1 flash to eliminate a step? Is any of this even possible ? Thanks in advance :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] custo:
Its a lot easier and less work if you just flash the MG1 modem with mobile odin in my opinion, especially if you're already on a custom rom
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] wolly6973:
Thanks for the great thread. My s4 will be here in 2 days. Crossing my fingers it isn't updated. Coming from an s2 and can't wait!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] soundemonchan:
Maybe a dumb question I, but I searched the thread and couldn't find if it's safe to flash I9505 ROMs on the Canadian model (jfltecan/I337M). Is it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LuigiBull23:
No its not ok.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Yes you can, just flash your carrier's kernel. When using KT kernel I think you would use his TMO one and make sure you use the appropriate aosp or tw version. GE roms are TW.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Enzium:
Thank you all for the help :) I successfully flashed the MG1 firmware via odin and very easily got my root back with CF auto root :) Lovin it!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TU Homer:
I am a T-Mobile USA subscriber. Recently, I bought an AT&T SGS4 (i377) and would like to use on my t-mobile account. Options:

1. Purchase unlock code and simply use my T-Mo SIM card in the unrooted phone. Costs about $40 (since the phone is on a two-year plan with my daughter who doesn't want the phone).

2. Sell it and purchase an unlocked T-Mo variant. Wonder what a very slightly used i377 with 16GB is worth....

3. Root the i377 and simply use my T-Mo SIM card. Anything else needed?

Are there other options? Option 3 seems to be my path of least resistance. Any issues with this third option?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fukenbiker:
option 3

I'm sure we'll find out! Thank you for your bravery and all but did you check the Baseband version of your handset? Does it end in MDB, MDL, or MF3? This is probably the most important thing to do when picking up any new Samsung Galaxy S4. Go into settings, find "about phone" and check that flippin' baseband. It's liable to reflect MF3 and in that case all stop!

If your Baseband version ends in MF3 you cannot install a custom recovery, as soon as you try after getting root, you will BRICK...

E = mc² and MF3 = hard brick

as in, "help! I can't do anything but go into download mode. My recovery is gone!"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TU Homer:
Dang! It is MF3. That mean there is no current method to root and download a customer recovery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TU Homer:
I see the root method for MF3. Appears to be a surmountable issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxy_star:
Anyone know if the Galaxy S4s will now have the new update on them?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kevnuke:
I hope not. I need to get an insurance replacement for mine and I'm praying it's one of the back stocked S4s..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
I believe that they will now come with the update pre installed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
HEY GUYS I HAVE AN ATT S4 and i rooted it using moto chopper the problem is i cant install no zip files , no roms, or kernals , i keep getting an error everytime . i tried CWM snd TWRP and i still cant install no zip files ..:( ANY HELP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
Be VERY careful not to do anything until you post here to let us know your baseband version and build number from settings/about device.

If you have ********MDL we can help you probably. If you have ********MF3 do nothing without getting approval from the prime time players on this site. The difference is very important if you do not know.

Just trying to help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
my baseband is i337ucuamdl it didnt have the mf3 update so im not sure whats going on
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
Install root checker to make sure you are in fact rooted. I used rom manager plus premium to install CWM, then used that to install PhilzTouch Loki version .zip file. Do some searching. And also I used TitaniumBackup to freeze the apps that download and install the MF3 update. Very important!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
IM ROOTED do you have the link to the loki zip file

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IM ROOTED do you have the link to the loki zip file. tried a loki zip but i couldnt even install it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2322682

Read all related posts and follow steps carefully.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
Once rooted, the easiest way to get recovery is to use goo manager and just flash recovery...Once you have that twrp installed you can flash any other recovery you want from within twrp..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
thats the problem im rooted with twrp and everytime i triy to flash anything it wont let me
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
Have you tried flashing cwm from a zip file?

What error are you getting and at what point when you try and flash stuff?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
Do you have the "allow mock locations" checked in settings/developer options? Not sure if that's the issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
yes same things with CWM .. IM trying to install custom roms that are specific to my s4 att and still nothing . :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
But you were able to flash cwm and use it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
did it through rom manager then went back to goo to reinstall twrp
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
So how far do you get in the process when you try and flash? Where is the error?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
ok some how im not rooted i was only able to flash a kernal which took out my root and i can get back into recovery .. can you help
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
Just re-root using one of the methods available and see if that works, if all else fails return to stock using odin and start fresh...but it honestly sounds like you need to do some more careful reading so you dont screw yourself up. :thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
I agree about reading before flashing.

Here's what I did...

1 Motochopper for root

2 SuperSU with pro license

3 Rom Manager w/Pro license

4 Use RomManager to install CWM (with or without touch)

5 Use TitaniumBackup to freeze update apps (per XDA thread)

Note, RomManager is an easy way to get into CWM recovery, as opposed to the button method.

Please come back and let us know how you make out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pedromartinez1983:
can i redo the moto chopper to start fresh
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rastabolino:
Worth a try I guess
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Targor_Avelany:
So, here is a question:

I've followed the HOW-TO root/backup/flash guide in this forum. Unfortunately, had to CF-Root my galaxy s4 and follwed this up with 3-in-one tool to install CWM. It perfectly reboots into the CWM recovery on the first go (right after installation), allowing me to backup and do whatever I need to.

When I want to reboot from CWM into regular, it asks me about the changing bootloader, informing that it might be permanent, or not, but in that case the stock bootloader could be written in on next boot.

From what I read around, it's better not to select "yes" on that option, and just let it be as is. But my question is: how do I keep the CWM in that case? I assume that it has to do with Loki, but I'm not exactly sure what is needed to happen and whether or not my assumtions are correct.

Phone is: SGH-I337M.

Thank you in advance!

Cheers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] InkSlinger420:
By default it says that warning in case it ever does happen but I have never had it actually reflash boot loader or recovery..some may have but I never have...

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sent from my i577/1.5oc/running one hella LiquidSmooth
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Targor_Avelany:
Thank you for the reply.

Yeah, that is the reason why I asked: I am not able to get into recovery by a regular method of holding volume up+home+power; it just boots into the loading screen with the blue "recovery blah" message in the top left corner and that is it, it then reboots into regular mod. The phone is rooted now and with rom manager it loads into recovery fine if I got through the manager, but not the regular way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Agent:
Wow, I have to say this is extremely informational. Thank you!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] InkSlinger420:
Just make sure not to do any ota updates as you will lose root and most likely recovery..some are reporting losing even stock recovery...just research before you flash anything...