yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Phone 8 General] efektos:
It's better for Microsoft (in the long run) that the OS will not be jailbroken: Jailbroken devices can install pirated applications, and pirated applications makes application developers angry.

Currently, app devs have no choice but to develop their applications to the 2 major OSs out there (iOS and Android), and know that in some point it is quite likely that people who jailbreak their devices can install pirated copies of their applications.

In the long run, as WP would start gaining major market share, application developers would be more keen to focus their development for WP as they'd know their property could not be pirated (if, supposedly, WP will remain unhacked).

This is of course only hypothetical - there's no protection which is made by men and cannot be hacked by men, and I'm more than sure that the more user-base and interest WP gains, the more likely is that someone would find a loophole in the OS and it'd be jailbroken...

And maybe not :p
[Windows Phone 8 General] timmymarsh:
Thread moved to General ;)
[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
I am as well very certain that Microsoft will not allow for Jailbreaking of the devices. They have some programs that will get you a free dev account to develop on top of the Plattform but they don't Support changes to the Plattform itself. If you want to make your Point about giving Devs certain APIs go to wpdev.uservoice.com and Support them with your votes.

As for jailbreaking WP: I'm sure it can be done because in the end: techniques exist to exploit basically everything but as was already said: Microsoft isn't making it easy.
[Windows Phone 8 General] snickler:
It may be possible, but as for now they have closed damn near every hole we could think of. I'd say the only way we can hope for SOME progress is if we can exploit the root certificate and policies somehow. I know GoodDayToDie had a few good potential ideas. It's not that the device NEEDS to be jailbroken, we need to be given more trust. I feel as if Microsoft automatically feels like we will screw everything up so it's being our overprotective mother instead. We all know what happens when you are too overprotective to those you care about.....

With that said, if we can just be given a LITTLE more freedom.. That's all I ask for. I don't think we would have to worry about any type of malware since the App Hub process is smart enough to give me the red X if I'm trying to call MessageBox.Show() from a background task.

/endrant.
[Windows Phone 8 General] noelito:
What if we paid you the bounty?
[Windows Phone 8 General] RCranium666:
iOS is certified afaik for government use, so the business security issue is specious. Not everybody will hack their device anyway.
[Windows Phone 8 General] StevieBallz:
There are different levels of security certifications, similarily to Mil-Spec Standards that exist for a lot of different criteria. Allowing people to do more with their devices isn't really at the core of Microsoft's concerns here. They don't try to push it though as they want applications in the Store and not on the web. Piracy is likely to play a role here too.

As for a bounty to make a JailBreak happen - it might be an incentive for certain developers to start looking into it. With WP7 the way most of the time was to hack the Bootloader and then flash a custom ROM to allow for additional access. With WP8 people might need to look into other ways in given that Secure Boot is likely to be a very hard nut to crack. Given that the original Jailbreak for WP7 relied on custom certificates it's likely that Microsoft invested there to close this off better but it's of course still worth investigating.

The more important part in the end would be to get Microsoft to make more available through the official APIs. They are extending those and this has made more functionality available every time they did a major update to the OS (Mango, Apollo).

Another point to note is that native interop is now part of the regular SDK. It's therefore likely that native APIs will be better protected against accesses from unauthorized Apps than they have been in WP7 (where the problem was getting native code to run at all).
[Windows Phone 8 General] sinister1:
Not trying to be negative but I don't think the would care. On their won suggestion site (http://windowsphone.uservoice.com/forums/101801-feature-suggestions/suggestions/2281201-custom-sounds-for-sms-mms-email-notifications-e) the haven't even responded to the 40,000 + petitions that people have been voting for 2 years for custom MMS\SMS; something that is so easy to do.
[Windows Phone 8 General] RCranium666:
Thanks for everyone's responses. I just went back to my gn2. I found too many compromises in wp8. The funny thing is, I use a wp8 launcher on android and it's much more versatile than wp8 itself. The l920 was also a disappointment. I'm no stranger to phone cameras and I was rarely able to take a good picture with it. I like the l920's design better than the gn2, but not much else.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
Hello, I'm sorry but I am a noobie in dev stuffs for mobile OS.

So, I'll just seek some assistance before I do something terrible to my phone.

Problem:

My phone gets stuck in the HTC logo white screen, tho I do manage to get pass that by holding the power button again.

The files in my phone which I delete gets restored if the mobile is restarted. (similar on how Deep Freeze works on PCs)

Factory reset doesn't work. (Have no tried doing it while connected in a PC)

Lots of errors in my applications.

Note, this phone was just passed to me by my aunt since she no longer use it.

I wanted to fix them.

I'm willing to learn methods to be able to fix it, I just want some assistance on where to start with troubleshooting this phone.

Thank you for your time. (can provide more info if asked)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikolas60:
you must downloand htc syng fist http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync-manager/ and donload from here http://dfiles.eu/files/4kzf5d6c2 this ruu install htc syng after go into fastboot mode by pressing the power and volume down hilight booloader prees pwer button one time and you wiil get into fastboot mode run the ruu you see screen instructions wait to finish must charge your phone fully and after you wiil be great with your desire jd working great
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
Thank you for the quick response. I will do as you instructed then.

Will post results.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
What does hboot say? To get to hboot, reboot while holding power and volume-down.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
ACE PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT - 2.00.0027

MICROP-0438

RADIO-26.14.04.28_M

eMMC-boot

Sep 7 2011, 19:06:24

I have not tried doing what the other guy said yet, I've been busy today.

I have tried factory resetting before using hBoot, but did not work.

Also tried doing it on settings, also did not work.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humzaahmed155:
Download an RUU that matches your phone, your Desire HD should then be up and running
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
Could you please link me up to one?

I really do not know how this stuff works, so I wont know which ones would match my phone.

Or if there is somewhere/something to know how to find the one that matches mine, I am fine with reading and learning.

Thank you either way for the help.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humzaahmed155:
http://www.shipped-roms.com/downloa...60.29_26.14.04.28_M_release_225512_signed.zip download and install this, keep the phone switched on
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
Hello, sorry for the late reply.

I tried installing the one provided by nikolas60 a few moments ago. (I used that one since it's the same version with the one provided by humzaahmed155 but in zip form)

I installed it using the bootloader method, put it in the sd card root and renaming it PD98IMG.

Bootloader managed to detect it but after a few minutes, it just said wrong CID, or something, then press power to restart.

So I just restarted it and nothing happened.

Did I do something wrong? Should I try the .exe one?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
bumping for answers or advices. thank you.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
You will need to make a gold card if you have wrong cid.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killercorpz:
Thank you, can you point me somewhere where I can learn on how to do it.

Or might you have the time to teach me, that would be much appreciated.

Thank you for the reply tho, I will try to see what I can find.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] humzaahmed155:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=752934
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Hi

I bought a fake Samsung Galaxy Note 2 in China.

I bought it for the hardware, its the best I can afford.

The phone feels fast and has a beautiful IPS screen and a good camera.

I want to load a trustworthy Android OS on it.

FOUND RECOVERY MODE

So far I've gone into recovery mode by holding Vol Up+PWR+Select.

I was presented with 3 options normal/fast boot/recovery mode.

When I enter recovery mode it looks like this

After Selecting recovery mode and pressing volume down I get this menu

At this point I don't know how to do anything because volume up/down just move the selection up/down and the select button just shows/hides the menu. The power button seems to do nothing.

What recovery mode is this? Is it a universal Android recovery mode?

=========================================================

WHAT MY PHONE SAYS

MAC ADDRESS d0:e7:xx:xx:xx:xx

Serial Number: 0123456789ABCDEF (literally)

Model Number: GT-N7100

Android Version: 4.1.1

Baseband Version: MAUI.11AMD.W12.22.SP.V17,2012/12/06 23:38

Kernel Version: 3.0.31-178067

SMP PREEMPT Wed Apr 24 16:51:38 CST 2013

Buiild Number: JRO03C.N7100ZSALIA

Custom Build Version: I968.1500A.02.02.J.B-V1.0.1B02R25

STORAGE (This is weird)

Internal Storage:

> Total Space: 12.00GB

> Apps: 59MB

> Available 473MB (where did the 12GB go?)

Phone Storage:

> Total Space 2.06GB

> Apps: 3.59MB

> Pictures: 23MB

> Available: 2.04GB (okay that makes more sense)

SD Card:

> Not inserted.

How does internal storage differ from phone storage?

===============================================

IDENTIFYING MY PHONE'S HARDWARE

Do I need to figure out what CPU, wifi, camera etc my phone uses?

What about hardware compatability?

(Its possible my phone's hardware is different from an Original Samsung Galaxy Note 2)

==============================================

Final questions:

* Do I need to root my phone?

* How can I check if its already rooted?

* How can I backup my phone's current ROM?

* What ROM should I download? (from what I've read CyanogenMod sounds good)

* Do I need to add hardware drivers to the ROM?

Thank you very much.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
To be honest you will nor find many roms for that device as those clone devices don't use the same hardware or chips the normal devices do. There are no official CM roms for it or recoveries at the moment. You will most likely have to dig in and make your own or check some China based forums

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Thanks, what about the numbers I referenced such as baseband version etc, would it not work to use a ROM with the same baseband version?

Does an Android ROM have to be configured for every single piece of hardware (CPU, modem, camera, screen, etc) or can it auto detect hardware at startup?

Is there any way I can de-compile the ROM on my phone to extract the drivers etc then overwrite the drivers on a new CyanogenMod ROM?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Yes the roms have to built for the hardware. Baseband is just for getting the network connections. You wont be able to extract the drivers as AOSP uses its own open source drivers built for the hardware. I really hate to say it but your pretty much stuck. You may find something on a China based forum but you wont find anything here.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Thanks for your reply.

I've moved my efforts over to

forum.cyanogenmod.org/topic/73833-i-bought-a-fake-samsung-galaxy-note-2-in-china/#entry392091

But I'm still subscribed to this thread.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Good news!

Good news!

So I plugged the phone into my computer and loaded up USBDeview.

The device description is MT65xx Android Phone. I looked up the Vendor ID 0bb4, its HTC!

I downloaded a few hardware info apps, here is some more info:

Product: t03gzs Device: t03g

CPU: smdk4x12

CPU ABI: armeabi-v7a

CPU ABI 2: armeabi

User: se.infra

Radio: unknown

Bootloader: unknown

Incremental Version: N7100ZSALIA

Release Version: 4.1.1

SDK Version: 16

Root dir: /system

Data dir: /data

Ext storage: /storage/sdcard0

Display W: 480

Display H: 854

Pixel Format: 5, Refresh rate 150.92, Density 1.5, X DPI 240, Font Scale 1, Screen Layout 34 (NORMAL|YES), Touch Screen 3 (FINGER), Keyboard 1 (NOKEYS), Keyboard Hidden 1(NO), UI MODE 17 (NORMAL|NO)

Processor: ARMv7 Rev 10 (v7l)

Cores: 4

Max Freq: 1600Mhz

Instruction sets: armeabi-v7a, armeabi

NEON Supported: Yes

Back Camera: 8MP

Front Camera: 1.9MP
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rav_Singh:
Hey, I got the same phone with exactly the same kernel,build,etc. .I know the camera says 8MP and 1.9MP but the quality seems to less than that.Also, Have you found any method to root it yet? What Apps/tools have you loaded to make it seem more authentic?

Thank You
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] girdap:
I got the same phone with exact specs. I'm still searching a method to root it. Real CPU is mtk6575 and mtk droid tool 2.47 is handling some how. But cannot root it. I've tried roottool bin4ry.v31for rooting and choose method 1, tool is first requesting system backup from phone and after succesful completion of this, second stage then request a system restore finishing of restore, 3. stage is reboot after requesting of system reboot phone doesnt come up. The only way for awakening the phone is removing and reinstalling the battery. If you can find a way for proper reboot let me know.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rav_Singh:
I am actually really new to these type of clones.I v only owned a SG ace duos before.So I'm afraid I can't hlp you much.

I looked up some threads like "How to root every MT65xx device "etc. But I really have'nt tried them much:(

P.S - At least someone else has this phone:) .I am so relieved:rolleyes:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yash.khatri3297:
your answers

Do I need to root my phone?

Yes

How can I check if its already rooted?

see if the super user app is installed on the phone and if it's from china most probably it's rooted

How can I backup my phone's current ROM?

Don't know about that the recovery mode should have a backup option

What ROM should I download?

Really you think there will be a rom for a wasteful china crap

Do I need to add hardware drivers to the ROM?

IDK.

Ok Now the important points looks like there is a nice original android pre installed. also mention the hardware in that way I may be able to help you also if there is any name on it like HDC ZOPO or any crap just post it then let's see if I can make/find a rom for it:cool:

:highfive:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] girdap:
I've already reset to factory default but no help. Still cannot reboot. Even there is no reboot choice when pressing power button!

Recovery menu can be reached by pressing volume down+power on+menu button at the boot time. But menü is in chinese and I'm lost in these crap.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] girdap:
Chinese menü is shown at the attachment. Can any one tell me what to choose to reboot for rooting
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lim Wee Huat:
The last option...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Nice to meet you guys

Lets help each other and share anything we learn about making this phone secure.

I haven't touched my phone. Its just been collecting dust.

When I first got it I did all these investigations and I tried super1click on it. It didn't work.

I don't really see the point in rooting it.

I would only really feel safe to use the phone if I install a stock android or CyanogenMod on it. That means a whole complicated process of porting the drivers from the existing phone to CyanogenMod.

Its too much hassle for me.

I'm just going to sell the phone.

I'm subscribed to this thread so if you find a way to secure the phone, let me know.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rav_Singh:
Hey,

The thing is ....I need root desperately My phone is nothing without Titanium backup! I think that maybe we are going to need root for porting cyanogen mod or any thing. Also,The RAM of this phone totally kills me. Games that require lots of memory dont work.:(

I was thinking of using Ram expander after rooting.:o

Are we making any progress with this phone yet?

Thanks !
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bevoc:
use mtk android tool to root after rooting, use the remove china option to secure the phone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2160490

use this to port cwm using your boot.img

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1825722

p/s

the phone uses mtk6577 and not exynos - it has 512 ram and 8gb internal memory

phone memory shows 12 gb used ( basically the kernel has faked info shown )
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rav_Singh:
Thanks ,I will try to do that:D

The internal memory(USB storage not phone storage ) is only 2.06 GB in mine:what:

What does it mean to 'secure' the phone?:o

P.S I hope it will not brick the phone.:(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] girdap:
I've tried the solution offers in links but stuck in some where?

link is http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38337401&postcount=5

My phone mtkdroidtools info is below

Hardware : MT6575 (SMDK4x12 is Fake!)

Model : GT-N7100

Build number : JRO03C.N7100ZSALIA

Build date UTC : 20130314-082048

Android v : 4.1.1

Baseband v: MAUI.11AMD.W12.22.SP.V17, 2012/11/28 12:38

Kernel v : 3.0.31-178067 (se.infra@SEP-113) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #1 SMP Thu Mar 14 16:18:12 CST 2013

I've created the scatter file and tried to read the phone memory by using SPFlash tool but failed.

My scatter file is below

PRELOADER 0x0

{

}

DSP_BL 0x40000

{

}

MBR 0x600000

{

}

EBR1 0x604000

{

}

__NODL_PMT 0x660000

{

}

__NODL_NVRAM 0xa60000

{

}

__NODL_SECCFG 0xd60000

{

}

UBOOT 0xd80000

{

}

BOOTIMG 0xde0000

{

}

RECOVERY 0x13e0000

{

}

SEC_RO 0x19e0000

{

}

__NODL_MISC 0x1fe0000

{

}

LOGO 0x2040000

{

}

__NODL_EXPDB 0x2340000

{

}

EBR2 0x23e0000

{

}

ANDROID 0x23e4000

{

}

CACHE 0x224e4000

{

}

USRDATA 0x425e4000

{

}

__NODL_FAT 0x626e4000

{

}

__NODL_BMTPOOL 0xffff0050

{

}

I'm trying to read start of recovery to end of usrdata but progress indicator always at %0 percent??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frdngmz:
try with

__NODL_BMTPOOL 0xe2620000

________________________________________________

My Phone imfo:

Model : GT-N7100

Build number : JRO03C.N7100ZSALIA

Build date UTC : 20130529-062310

Android v : 4.1.1

Kernel v : 3.0.31-178067 (se.infra@SEP-113) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #1 SMP Wed May 29 14:21:02 CST 2013

Baseband v: MAUI.11AMD.W12.22.SP.V17, 2012/11/28 12:38

my phone hard bricked.

i need FlashtoolFromReadBack files.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
son wnaboa

Thanks for the info bevok!

I will check out the info and see what I can do.

Thank you for the reply

yash.khatri3297
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lop3:
Mobile Uncle MTK tools

I tried an app called Mobile Uncle MTK tools

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobileuncle.toolbox&hl=en

It gave me this information:

http://imgur.com/a/EZujg

It says I have MT6577

I have sent a message to the honourable Sifu Master yuweng, hopefully he will help us :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bevoc:
ok some thoughts

can you post your phones photo? with the back cover off.

currently im working on 3 almost identical devices with the exception of the hardware when you take off the back cover. i have clean roms for 2 of them. all 3 phones have faked kernel showing 12gb rom 1gb ram and exinos (or whatever quadcore) as processor. i can upload the rom if anybody wants it.

after carefully viewing the photos you posted above, i guess my roms are not compatible as they are for qhd screens.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frdngmz:
Backing up your rom

Hi.

i have same phone.

i found a recovery.img for this phone.

if you want, i share it.

and then;

i advice that: you have to make a back up as s00n as possible. becasu i did not do, and now my phone hard bricked now :)

backup procedure:

1-open spflashtool.program

2-Select MT6575 scatter file

3-go to "Read Back" tab.

5-Click to "Add" Button.

6-double click to near start adress like 0x0000 etc.

7-Choosea a file name and save it.

8-set start address : 0x0000000000000000 and

set lenght 0x224e4000

9- click "Red Back" Button. plug the usb cable then insert phone battery.

10-wait until process commplete.

11. HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT STAGE

Please Share your backed up file with me. Bacause i have same phone and it hard bricked.

i need this backup file.

:):):9:D

---------- Post added at 10:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:14 AM ----------

hi.

use vroot program for root it.

i have same phone. but i hard bricked it. now i nedd rom back up.

could yo share yoru rom back up to me please

---------- Post added at 10:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:26 AM ----------

have you got same phone) please contact me

(Hey girdap. sendede mi bu telefondan var. haberleşelim:)

---------- Post added at 10:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 AM ----------

i share spflashtool program,scatter file, usb driver, recovery.img and vroot program.

4shared.com/archive/bX1IusaT/Clone_N7100_Files.html

1. First instal usb driver.

2.shut down phone and remove battery.

3. oen spflashtools program and select scatter file.

4.(make a "read back" backup before this operations.

5.select only recovery.img and press download button.

6.plug usb cable.

7.insert battery.

8. after process finish, new recovery is ready. :)

i tested it and it is working good.

for rooting i share vroot program. but i can not test it because my phone hard bricked. :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frdngmz:
No reply ???
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoulmateMusic:
Let's hope for a clean rom. Lop3 I think we have the same phone :)

1 microsim,

MT6577 QuadCore 1.6GHz

2GB Ram

16GB

8Mpx, 1,9Mpx front

Android: 4.1.1

Build number: JRO03C.N7100ZSALIA

Baseband version: N7100XXALIE

Kernel: Linux version 3.0.31 - 178067 (se.infra@SEP-113) (gcc version 4.4.3 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed May 29 14:21:02 CST 2013
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yash.khatri3297:
FYI

Just look up MT 6577 it's a dual core A7 not quad core and ram cannot be more than 1 GB as even the real MT6589 quad A7 has problems in supporting 2 GB ram so ram is 512 MB or 1GB(MAX and rare) rom 16 (No) it has a 4 GB rom out of which 2.98 is usable to you
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grandepinna:
I have the same phone. Camera is sold for 8mp but it is only 5mp.

Memory is faked to 12gb but looking at the partition tables, i can see it is only 500mb (+2 gb internal rom). Screen should be hd but is something like 854x500.

My phone comes rooted but i'm still looking for a newer rom to install. Tell me if i can help. I'm staying tuned on this post. :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoulmateMusic:
How to ROOT this phone?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] girdap:
Reboot is base method for crack and rooting. But this Phone blocked against to reboot. Only choices are shutdown and pass to planemod. But using visionary tool succeeded to change imei somehow?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RipKirby:
ROM file from rooted mt6575 fake Galaxy Note 2 phone

Here you can download ROM file from

rooted

mt6575 GT N7100 fake Galaxy Note 2 phone:

xxx.mediafire.com/folder/d1uh6h82cgk51/Fake_Galaxy_Note_2_files

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