yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] fosser2:
Fine.

----- Made recovery filesystem --------/home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/recovery/root
----- Making uncompressed recovery ramdisk ------
/home/andrew/CWMR/out/host/linux-x86/bin/mkbootfs /home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/recovery/root > /home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/ramdisk-recovery.cpio
----- Making recovery ramdisk ------
/home/andrew/CWMR/out/host/linux-x86/bin/minigzip < /home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/ramdisk-recovery.cpio > /home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/ramdisk-recovery.img
----- Making recovery image ------
/home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/recovery.img maxsize=10543104 blocksize=135168 total=7124992 reserve=270336
Made recovery image: /home/andrew/CWMR/out/target/product/jflteatt/recovery.img

Here is the recovery for anyone that wants it.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vgs43o5dssmftvp
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
hi everyone, just a newbie but i love the board.

if a phone is locked in the uk, will it work fine everywhere else apart form the uk ?

Thanks Franz
[Xperia Z General] dantistruct:
So I've had my Xperia Z for about 2 months now and it has endured water tests, and stress test (software wise). I'm completely satisfied with the results. However I was cleaning my phone with my microfiber cloth and noticed something odd when cleaning. As I look up at the top left of the device I see that there is a slight bulge or lift of the device I am wondering if this was after my long photography session I did with it as it heated up quite a bit and the Snapdragon S4 is around the same area. I'd like to know if anyone came across this lift / bulge and had any issues with it / got it back down because the uneven-ness bothers me mentally, I have still washed my phone however haven't fully submerged it since I've noticed bulge. I'll post some pictures on what I'm talking about, I figured someone here can help me out with this for I won't be close to a Sony Service Center to have a look at my device until July.

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Survey: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44369631&postcount=268

EDIT: Here are links requested by drsoran2 and rekoil on a survey on the Xperia Z backplate lift:

Link to survey form: http://goo.gl/FTzl34

Link to survey results: http://goo.gl/78iuEU
[Xperia Z General] cordonbleu:
Your backplate is definitely loose. If I were you, I wouldn't submerge it anymore because I think it isn't waterproof anymore. Looks like the glue melted while you were heavy using your Z and caused the backplate to lift. You should definitely bring your device in for repair or replacement.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Try heat it up again at that point e.g. with an hairdryer and then press it for a time while it cools down again. Maybe it works.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] xchasa:
Take it back.

If you try to repair it, and do more damage then your warranty is gone..
[Xperia Z General] windozeanti:
I think that is a really bad idea.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Yeah! I guess they're right. That's the problem of being an engineer...

Let the good guys at Sony do the repair.

P. S. In any case you can see what they will do at Sony herehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNrtamZuf7E.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] dantistruct:
Hmmm I guess I'll wait until I go back up to get it repaired hopefully they can just do this easy fix on site, I can do it myself but I still have warranty so I might as well let them do it I just hope they do it on site and give it back to me the same day or the day after... from what I'm thinking it just needs a reheat to activate the adhesive agent and placing back down on it.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Please, let us know how it went before closing the thread.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Xuantocdo:
I also have the same problem :(
[Xperia Z General] dantistruct:
I will, sigh I wish this country had a Sony support store I have to wait so long just to get it checked out. It's making me wonder if this is why they made the ZR... hmm.
[Xperia Z General] naathaan4:
Is this something with the white Xperia Z? I have it as well, noticed it about 2 weeks ago.

I saw another person's thread about his white Xperia Z having a lift on the back top left of the phone as well.
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
Same problem on my XPZ - top left corner near camera lens.
[Xperia Z General] dantistruct:
Mine is the xperia Z black c6603 I really think it's the heating of the processor and not entirely sure if it compromises the waterproofing because I have washed it a bit to clean it (not dunk it) and I don't have any problems but I'll still be careful with it until we get some confirmation from Sony
[Xperia Z General] naathaan4:
What's the color of your Xperia Z?

---------- Post added at 01:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:45 PM ----------

Oh, wow. I didn't realize that it was the reflection that made it look like white. Anyway, I saw a couple of people that have this problem already and all of theirs are white
[Xperia Z General] zaynal:
Mine is black colour XPZ.
[Xperia Z General] Ame123:
Same with me..a little bulge near the camera..ui have the black one
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
So it's not a bug but a feature!

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] o0oP5:
I thought i was the only one.. Lol..

Mine is C6602 black..
[Xperia Z General] dantistruct:
So I'm guessing that it's natural for this to be happening?
[Xperia Z General] sucker for sony's:
I have a black xz. To admit I get it hot to the point it burns to touch but it's not bulging yet the rear glass on mine is sitting dead flat.
[Xperia Z General] Don MC:
On the bottom end of my phone (next to the barcode), there's a text "13W09", implying the phone was manufactured on week 9 of the year 2013.

They surely must have sent out service bulletins to service centers. Someone here mentioned a spring or something beneath the back plate, that's too tight or something. It presses the back plate outwards.
[Xperia Z General] leroy1703:
Hmm.. Mine says 13W11, which means the device is actually a lot older than I would have thought

That sounds promising. I don't think there are official Sony service centres in the Netherlands though, so I'll probably have to visit the store where I bought it.
[Xperia Z General] Regionella:
bad problem :(
[Xperia Z General] Don MC:
The store where you bought it would be your first choice, yes. Like I said, I don't know if Sony actually have informed the service companies about this problem, but it would definitely be in our best interest that they would. Denying everything (like Apple would do) doesn't help the customers, or Sony themselves for that matter. We live in an age of openness, and the more open you are, the more trust you gain from the public.

To Sony I would say: Please admit there is a design fault and kindly offer to repair all affected handsets (for free of course). That way you'll gain my trust and keep me as a customer in the future as well.
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Caution for folks that have the lifted panel.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44048911&postcount=53
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
I wanted to talk with Sony Mobile chat support about the issue and know what they have to say about it...but it seems that they are closed for today here in Germany! (It's 6:35pm here) I have to try tomorrow.

I would recommened that everybody with this issue should try to talk to Sony Mobile chat support in their country and raise the issue.

The more people, the better. Also, these chat supports may have different opinions on the topic and it would be interesting to hear about them and compare them with each other.
[Xperia Z General] vibecatalin:
I've sent an email a few weeks ago ( a month maybe ) and here is the response from sony :

"With regards to your inquiry, we would like to inform you that according to the warranty conditions for the Sony Xperia Z mobile phone: "...if, during the warranty period, this product fails to operate under normal use and service, due to defects in

design, materials

or workmanship, Sony Mobile authorized distributors or service partners, in the country/region where you purchased the product, will, at their option, either repair or replace the product in accordance with the terms and conditions stipulated herein...".

We would like to suggest you to contact the Service Centers, in order to have your Sony Xperia™ Z mobile phone throughly checked and to be informed about the warranty and the technical support...."

I've bolded the important stuff :)
[Xperia Z General] LewisGauss:
For my case, it's not the back glass but the plastic at the right side of the phone, between the power button and the volume buttons. Is anyone having the same issue as me?
[Xperia Z General] :
Yup that's right.... At work we repair the unit even if is soaking wet inside if, the port covers are undamaged. But seen some with red indicators got replaced. Try to sneak out the warranty doc... And post it.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
Sure, a company should always repair or replace a unit which became defective due to bad design or production flaws because that's exactly what is covered by a warranty.

However, if the phone becomes soaky wet inside and the covers are still undamaged, how will Sony determine if this happened from unclosed flaps, use outside of the ip57 specifications or a faulty, loose back plate?!

I mean, if someone would be mean, they would use the phone just how they want and if it's broken just say that the flaps and stuff were closed. Wouldn't this lead to untrue warranty claims?

After all, if you say, that Sony repairs phones even when they are wet, that's very cool of them, but would that mean I should not worry about the waterproofness of the XZ anymore, even if my back plate appears to be lifted a bit? I mean, if Sony repairs it anyway, no matter what?

That would make myself a lot more worry free and I could actually use my phone as I planned before.
[Xperia Z General] Don MC:
Sony has recalled products before. For example the Xperia S tablet that wasn't as waterproof as they claimed:

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2410625,00.asp

http://www.webpronews.com/sony-issues-recall-of-new-xperia-tablet-after-defect-was-found-2012-10

This only affected around 100.000 units, though. The Xperia Z phone has sold vastly more than so. Let's just hope Sony makes the right decision in this case.
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Interesting. But at the place you work, do you guys determine and perform the warranty work or that you guys just repair whatever phone comes in and charge Sony for the repair cost?

And for example, if the flaps are closed and that the water seeps in through the back panel and still turns the indicators red. Will this be covered under warranty?

And regarding the flaps, how do we check if they are Ok? I open and close my usb port flap daily, so I know there is wear and tear. What happens if one day there is a small gap formed in the flap and water seeps in even if it's closed?
[Xperia Z General] xchasa:
13w10.

4 months old and no lift at all..

Anyone with that build date suffering?
[Xperia Z General] :
We do repair whatever comes in ... for a certain point. Sometimes possible to cheat. And we charge the manufacturer if your device within warranty or give you a quote.

For the flaps we have pressure tester, but not always using it, e,g a cheat.... It supposed to be 3 psi, i think is about [MENTION=329243]2meter[/MENTION]s, (6 feet) i am not good with physics :laugh: But we do test every unit leaving. If flaps closed but water goes in, yes they usually goes red. It doesn't mean anything. Its supposed to be an IP57 certified product. Sony could have used a different mechanical solution like a metal frame and screws with a proper insulation.

Its insurance, and warranty for Sony, HTC, Motorola, Samsung, Huawei, Rim. And for EE(Orange , T-Mobile) And for second Yes we determinate the warranty status of the unit, and if is eligible for claim e,g (user abuse, illegal software or unauthorized repair.)
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
I just had an interesting chat with Xperia Care Support in Germany. Here is a summary of what they told me:

In the beginning, I just wrote, that on the back upper left corner, near the camera, the back panel is lifted a bit compared to the other side.

Xperia Care replied without hesitation: "It seems that your device is defective. You should send it in for inspection/repair."

Me: I told them I was surprised by their quick reply and that I bought the device for its water protection and used it for jogging and pictures in the rain. Since discovering the lift, I'm not so sure anymore about the water proofness.

I gave them the links to the two threads here on XDA dealing with the problem and said its not an isolated case and that under heat the glue gets warm and melts and thus pushes the back outside.

I said, a repair would not fix it, it would come back.

Xperia Care: "I can't tell if the device is still waterproof over the chat, because I can't see it." (She used "waterproof" all the time, not water resistant!)

Me: There was a recent change in material for the back plate which should fix the problem. Do you know about this? Would the warranty deal with the device if water got in through the back while the flaps were closed?

Xperia Care: "This change on your device is not normal and needs to be investigated!"

Me: I told them were they could find pictures of how my device looks like in order to determine how bad it is and gave them the link!

Xperia Care: "I can't access your links. However, it's not relevant what is written there, your phone needs to be inspected!" (I don't know why she couldn't access the XDA links!)

Me: I asked again, what would happen with the warranty if someone, until I send the phone in for inspection, accidentially spills some beverage over my phone or if I get into a heavy rain and water should enter through the back plate?

Xperia Care: "I can't give you information about this"

Me: "So, with my device, based on my initial description, seems to be something wrong and it needs to be inspected. The waterproofness at this point is also unclear. Would you agree?"

Xperia Care: "Yes"

End of story!

So she promptly said, that something is wrong, waterproofness may be affected but couldn't tell me what happens to the warranty if water sips in through the back plate.

What do you guys think? Do you have similar experiences? What to make of this? I would only reluctantly send in my phone, wait for days or weeks to get it back. All the time without smartphone and then I have to backup everything before and restore afterwards!

I'd rather spray some transparent, waterproof glue or something onto the edges to make it more waterproof ;)
[Xperia Z General] Rekoil:
So, err, ****, this is happening to mine as well. >.<

Time to send to Sony.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
Does anyone has experience of sending the phone to Sony Service about this and has already the phone back? How long it took?

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] xHoche96x:
does Sony change something so that this won't happen anymore or does they go the easy way and replace the back with the same glue?

Does it come again?
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Thanks for sharing your conversation, but like always, they can never confirm or tell you anything useful on the spot.

I guess the only way is to try our luck and send it in and see what they come up with.
[Xperia Z General] Luinwethion:
[MENTION=1191647]donottouch[/MENTION],

First I want to thank you for posting your experience on repairing this problem.

My phone had this problem also, and water got in to the phone, it was raining and I was on the phone with someone.

The problems:

-Microphone has stopped working

-Side keys has stopped working.

So, I contacted Sony Netherlands, and they said I should send the phone to Dynafix, after calling Dynafix, they said that I had to proof that the water came trough the glass, and that I had all the covers closed.. Well, how can I doe that? Because the USB and the headphone strips were pink/red, and the reparation would take more or less 5 weeks (WTF???)

So I thought, I can do it by my self (lol).

The first thing I did was clean the mobo with some special electronics liquid, and I replaced the sidekey flex, everything works now, and this weekend I will work on get the phone waterproof again. And here comes a few questions:

I will replace the Antena cover also (where the speaker) because the glue is not good anymore, and I couldn't find any adhesive for this part. Do you think is necessary? I mean, will water comes though the speaker whole?

In the backcover (where the secondary microphone) there is a sponge, but half of it is gone , I don't think that it is for preventing water to come inside, can you confirm that?

I will buy this adhesive I can't see if it is the old one or the new one, so I will buy and try, my question is, in your tutorial, you don't apply heat to "glue" the cover back, so I assume is not needed (sorry for the stupid question), I just have to (try) apply enough pressure in all 4 sides (I will work it out how to do it).

Again thanks for your help! And sorry for all those questions.

I've removed the camera sponge and lowed the NFC contacts...
[Xperia Z General] :
I cannot validate the stuff from ebay LOL, what i got from work is works more than fine. I did not apply any heat when i glued it... But it works :p :laugh: :p Just washed the poorly thing with my trousers.... ouch 60min program @40c and is alive, and dry like a desert. The water sensors you need to get from ebay or from another phone if is bigger you can cut it. if you have a look there is a little triangle one in the sim trays handle. And for your question, is better to get the "mic mesh" or get a back from our lovely e-store. and if i were you i would claim warranty for something else, like battery problem common after the 1st 4.2.2 update. make sure you put all stuff back if don't have just cut same color stickers for same size, preferably from similar material.
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
That's what I'm afraid of. How can you prove anything after the indicators have turned red??? So basically the warranty against water damage is worthless in a waterproof phone?
[Xperia Z General] Luinwethion:
[MENTION=1191647]donottouch[/MENTION], Thank you very much.

I have now a insurance, but I can't claim nothing in the first month, but if anything goes wrong again, I just send the phone to the insurance company, because the Sony service in the Netherlands and Belgium is horrible, they are slow, and they try to find any evidence of user fault, some people with the same problem, got their phones back (after a few weeks) and the problem was not solved, because they claim it's a minor "esthetic" problem.

I got almost all my stuff from a german webshop, and I think the stuff is original, because they look the same as the Sony ones (the flex cable and the antenna cover.

But sadly they don't have the adhesive for the back cover, so the last thing I can do, is hope to get a original one lol.

The mic mesh is a good idea, I will try that, thanks.
[Xperia Z General] Don MC:
In my country it's up to the seller/service center to prove the customer has misused his/her phone and not the other way around. Not sure about the rules elsewhere in the EU, but I'd advise you (Luinwethion) to google a bit and find out more about the consumer rights in your country. They should be the same in all the EU.
[Xperia Z General] :
"After water damage please change the indicators !" LOL Is that simple. Salvage it from other devices, or buy a few. On mine i used one from my HTC Desire C little square if cutted 3 part just makes the right size.
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
As I don't want to send in my device and wait for days or weeks until it's fixed, I thought about making it more waterproof myself. I'm planning to treat the edges and rims of the front and back side. The places were there are small gaps and which are lifted or could lift.

To do this, I thought about some kind of waterproof glue or spray. It must be transparent, non poisonous and non smelly. Basically invisible. It should also be removable and not cost a fortune.

What should I use, is there something like this on the market?

Or would you advise against doing so for warranty reasons and such?
[Xperia Z General] :
I did with my. the strongest weather proof silicone glue from reynaers. They use it to glue and insulting aluminium window frames.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Definitely make sure it is removable for warranty purposes.

I just find it stupid to have to modify the phone to compensate for a design defect. Needless to say that it's definitely going to mess up the phone's appearance as well.

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Can you please post some pictures of your work? :)
[Xperia Z General] drsoran2:
I know, it's kinda stupid that I want to do this, but there is only 1 repair center in Germany from Sony Mobile! It would take quite long and in today's time, every day without smartphone is a lost day. I simply can't imagine myself without the phone for more than maximum 2 days.

Also, I'm just too afraid that something could happen to it right now, even when in rain. I'm not talking about submerging it into water. Although, after the treatment, I'm planning to do this. Summer and swimming pools is now :)

Yeah, I'd love to see pictures too. I'm afraid the glue would be visible and look ugly after the treatment?! Could I also use aquarium silicone glue or such? I don't really know what kind of glue you mean and which I should buy.
[Xperia Z General] Rekoil:
Hypothesising here, but if I were to waterproof mine myself, I think I would start by completely lifting off the back glass, finding the correct silicone/glue, apply that to where the glass attaches now, and plop the glass back in.

...but I'm not gonna do that because I'm much too afraid I would **** it up, so I just sent mine in yesterday. The service centre website says a device is usually fixed within 14 days. I very much doubt it'll take that long but we'll see.
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Yeah, it's more likely for me to mess up the phone too. So what exactly did you say to the service staff when you brought your phone in?
[Xperia Z General] Rekoil:
I've sent it in with the message "2 month old phone, back glass coming unglued" loosely translated from Swedish. This is most certainly a warranty case, no doubt about it.

For the record I noticed this before ever submerging my phone post-ungluing. All indicators are white.
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
I have contacted Sony Iberia (Portugal and Spain) and they told me that this problem is not listed/identified by Sony as a manufacturing defect.

They advise me to send my phone to a service center without being able to quantify how much time is needed for the repair.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] douglam:
Well. I think they will not openly admit that it's a defect but just fix it on a case by case basis. And I think many people have a protective case on, so they will never notice it. Or maybe a tight case can add pressure to the back panel and will not come loose?

Anyway, they will only find out whether there is a defect if there are lots of warranty claims. Maybe after this summer we will hear something different because people will be doing more water activities in summer. :)
[Xperia Z General] pjgowtham:
My right corner near camera is loose..just now noted that..gosh it's not that obvious ..
[Xperia Z General] vibecatalin:
If is really a design fault then theoretically all the Xperia Z's who are build until they figure this out will eventually lift no?
[Xperia Z General] ex19961996:
my xperia had a very little invisible glass lifted but i got anyway a water damage (i was lucky that i damaged only the power button) i think that the xperia z is made with good materials but bad way to build it D: