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[Galaxy S 4 General] saadi703:
I would just say enjoy your phone to the people who have bought 9505 and think it is better. If you think so then continue to do so and enjoy what you consider the best. Why you have to convince others that it is the best although the performance benchmarks, battery benchmarks, UI performance, gaming peformance I see slightly better on Octa core. But you don't have Octa to compare so why bother considering / thinking about it. Enjoy your top end device and let Octa Core people to enjoy their own top end device.

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In reality I bought S4 only because of Octa Core otherwise I would have not bought it and keep on enjoying my HTC One and iPhone 5. Why buy a phone with same chipset as the one I currently own. As far as ES 3.0 gaming is concerned the truth is that both Adreno 320 and powerVR 544MP3 is not good enough for that. For current games powerVR544MP3 is giving better performance.
[Galaxy S 4 General] antifocus:
Thanks Andrei.....IMHO compare to crippled CCI this is even more worring, with Samsung's notorious "friendilness" to the communities in mind.
[Galaxy S 4 General] admir83x:
Taken from those two slides.

It is quite simple:

* CPU Migration - Solution for 2013

* MP - In Development - Doesn't require h/w changes

It also clearly says that MP is "Implemented via modified kernel scheduler"

I may not be tech guru, but if I understand right, and according to this presentation, MP could be enabled through software, kernel to be more precise?
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
The presentation says "no h/w changes required to support MP". Since it's already have the CCI-400 part, it doesn't need another part.

It doesn't mean that MP is pure kernel implementation, just that it doesn't need more h/w to do so :cowboy:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gillion:
[MENTION=346281]Andrei[/MENTION]... I hope you dont get too frustrated with some of us users.

Its like when your best friend tells you the girl you like is not interested in you.

You go into denial mode and do all manner of mental gymnastics to keep hope alive... " but she waved at me yesterday in the common room."

Thats one of the impression I get here.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
You're obviously very smart and I learn a lot from your posts. The "snippets" I post are from ARM. Not random tidbits out of context from across the web.

The bottom line is this. You clearly don't like Samsung/Exynos/Octa/big.LITTLE and swipe at all of them every chance you get. Octa's performance is equal to S-600. Its battery life needs work. To me, and you certainly don't have to agree, that's a "success." Samsung may never provide the code for Octa or any of their big.LITTLE implementations to operate in MP mode. That's not a failure; it's a choice on their part. So while you may feel deprived as a developer because of not being able to use Octa/big.LITTLE in one of its operating modes that doesn't mean it's "broken" as you've persistently claimed. When you're the head of development for a multi-billion dollar company that produces mobile devices you can call the shots on how particular technologies are implemented.

I agree. You're judging Octa based on some back-end code and Samsung's implementation choices which you disagree with. I'm judging it on how it's performing out of the box and its future potential. We're not even having the same conversation.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gillion:
Sigh ...

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
How do you even manage to function? Honest question.

They are random out of context tidbits, no matter if they are from ARM or not because they are completely and absolutely irrelevant to the discussion you are conducting, not only are you not getting the point across, you don't make any point in the first place. It's an incoherent and constant blast of links and quotes with no substance, so please tell me, what are you trying to say?

Here we go towards absolute idiotic escalation - I clearly - who bought the i9500 because I prefer it over the Snapdragons, who made an effort to explain big.LITTLE to the community here before the phone even launched - who's currently wasting time rebuilding the kernel from pretty much a scratch, suddenly don't like any of this and trying to swipe them?

You're the current master of logical fallacies on this forum section. Shall we go together over the different points, or do you have them memorized? You ignore everything I just said about the workings and reports of the chip - None which came from me, and continue to state so. What do I need to do here for an equivalent of shoving something down somebody's throat so that they forcefully process that information?

I'm having the same conversation - you just seem to be completely missing the point.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Honest answer. You and I have two totally different views of the world. In a company like Samsung I'd be the person on the business side that is responsible for selling 80MM SGS4's and delivering a predetermined amount of profit over a prescribed amount of time. Something like the SoC or kernel to a business person is just a small piece of a very large puzzle. People like me at Samsung are more concerned about AirView working properly then whether or not MP's implemented in Octa or the kernel code isn't squeaky clean. Customers see AirView; they could give two craps about the SoC or kernel as long as their device performs well. And the people that will buy the 200MM+ mobile devices Samsung intends to sell this year are the audience. Not the 5MM "enthusiasts" on XDA. My equivalent on the development side also wouldn't care whether MP was implemented or how clean the kernel code is. Coding costs money and takes time. Unnecessary time and expense eats in to profit. And that’s something senior level people at any company live and die by. So when something's "done" it only needs to be "done enough" to meet whatever objectives (performance, battery life, longevity, functionality, delivery time, etc.) are set.

So you look at something like Octa or Samsung's kernel coding from a myopic and unrealistic perspective and criticize Samsung based on that. I'd ask... Why would Samsung spend money implementing MP if it weren't necessary? If the code that no one sees isn't clean but the objectives are met, who cares what it looks like? I can tell what people do for a living and at what level by the way they post. And that's the biggest difference between you and me. And as smart as you are on the development side I'm considered just as smart or smarter on the business side. And in a company like Samsung I'm the one that decides what SoC goes in to a device because I'm responsible for sales and profit, not my peer on the development side. And that’s because me, and people like me, are the ones whose ass is on the line to make the numbers. And numbers trump Octa vs. S-600 and most of the other stuff we beat to death here. So I function quite well, thanks for your concern.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
Re-read what I have stated in the several last pages. It has nothing to do with code itself nor has it to do with what I personally did with the code.

The code [Linaro] is there for the public and every single company out there to use. It is written, it is done. This is not about the code, nor software, no any stupid business analogy (Logical fallacy "False Analogy").

It is about the claim that a piece of hardware is not working as intended.

It is not about the repercussions to the business, to the user, or any other metaphysical effect from it.

Actually let's make it a business issue, for your sake: [Claimed statement from internal LSI] There was a point this piece of hardware was almost scrapped were it not for the possibility to run it in its current working scheme (cluster migration). Do you still not care as a person responsible for sales and profit? You do you currently enjoy having to out-source your elemental piece of hardware instead of using the in-house one?

Once you get this into your head and have overcome this monumental lack of reading comprehension, we can continue discussing the topic at hand.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
That's not true, it's a matter of preference and you sound bias as hell.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tears for Fears:
The point of my response is that you people post pointless bullish*t. Don't like it - don't buy it. Want to sell it - sell it. Don't whine or b*tch around where it's unasked. The hell I care what will you buy - that was a rhetorical question.

However, it is indeed a fact that S4 is superior to any other device released to date. If you prefer Xperia Z's IP57 certification, UI and body or One's UI, body and loudspeaker - it still is considered a downgrade due to significant importance of a component and/or feature. It is not bias nor opinion, it is factual. Importance is opinion, superiority isn't.

Now enough with b*tching around - no one is interested.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
OMG hahahahhahahhahaa. Are you delusional or something? Relax buddy. I don't care about your opinion either but this is fun.

When you say superior, im guessing you're talking about specs. If that's the case then yes, the Galaxy S4 is unmatched in terms of specs. User experience is another thing....
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tears for Fears:
I never stated my opinion, the hell does that have to do with anything?

User experience is among the "importance" part not "superiority" - it is an opinion, nothing factual except for statistics of opinions.

Specifications aren't just SoC numbers. The screen, body, camera, software, speaker, sensors, battery (etc.) are also a part of specifications. Meaning that it is all what makes a phone. Yes, S4 is superior to any other phone combining every aspect of the phone and adding everything together. If you'd put everything in a number of score, S4 will have the highest score. THIS is what superiority is.

Whether something is more or less important is nothing but opinions and preference. (Except for statistical data, again)

Enough bullish*tting. This conversation is senseless.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I wish I could give you props but I cant cause you do not make a lot of sense. Not speaking about the S4 here, but tell me what is the importance of having a superior device ( like you say) if the user experience is crap? Do you think ppl will open the phone, look at the SoC and say " YES, I HAVE THE BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD...."? while the phone has crappy battery life and lags?

Now speaking of he S4, it has specs for days but again, that doesn't necessarily translate to a better user experience which is what matters the most. Go to bed.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jeffnz:
Totally off topic Guys, take it to pm's if its that much of an issue to you both
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tears for Fears:
You're either not bright or entirely ignoring my points. Do you even realize what user experience is? Speaking of preference, if a person prefers battery life over power and features, how can a superior battery life be "bad user experience"? If a person prefers camera, how can having a superior camera be "bad user experience"?

User experience is the overall performance of a product, IF a phone is in overall superior, THEN the user experience or UX will also be higher. Now whether flaws of the product are of higher significance to a person - it is the person's opinion, never facts. I will not repeat this again.

And I say this for the last time, enough bullish*tting. This conversation is pointless.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
As much as I actually enjoy responding to your nonsense, I do not wanna take over this thread so that's my last reply but youre welcome to pm me if you want more knowledge.

So because you think the S4 is a superior device means that everyone else feels the same? You're a confused fella. I agree that the S4 is the higher specs device of them all but you claim that it equals better user experience....What are you like 12 years old or something? FOH.
[Galaxy S 4 General] @rbiter:
Dude. Flip the switch on in drop box to upload photos over WiFi. Problem solved. Also benefit of this is wearing out an expendable memory card instead of internal memory. Not that many people will but it is possible. And we need all the internal memory we can get and having to wait around and juggle it to make more is just bad business.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] rakeshishere:
I see a lot of OT chaos here about who has a bigger d**k & superior phone & what not.

It doesn't matter for what reasons (time constraints, profit etc), Samsung shouldn't have rushed out the Octa with unfinished implementation of Big. LITTLE Architecture. Once Note 3 comes out I'm sure I'll see a lot of i9500 users whining here
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
^^ LMAO! Cant wait for the Note 3!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gillion:
1.The internal NAND memory of most phones will outlast external memory cards.

You should know this.

2. NAND controllers have wear leveling control software that increase NAND memory reliability, .

3. I dont have always consistent access to the internet.

4. Internal memory is typically faster than external.

But as for memory... there is no way I can wear out the memory of a phone in less thab 18 months. By then, new device.

Also note there are people who are flashing roms on a regular basis with 2 and 3 year old devices for months at a time and you dont see them having issues with unreliability of their NAND given the age of the device in question.

Thanks for your suggestion tho.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] @rbiter:
You're right. I forgot about that. But I still use the external memory for pictures and videos because if the phone breaks, gets wet or whatever you can still pull out the memory card. If my external memory can't handle the speed for video though I will change that to internal though I haven't run into that problem yet.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gillion:
Securing and or recovery of data is possibly the most important reason to have dropbox or other cloud based services.

Outside of that... you can always sync to your laptop or have USB OTG.

But yes there is some risk using internal memory for photos... but the benefits outweigh that risk.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
1 Naive, 1 half wit, 1 smart ass, 1 smarty pants, 1 jack@$$ and this thread is ruined. Geez. We always had petty fights in forums, but XDA used to be more civilised than this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tears for Fears:
This thread was ruined with the very first post which is a copy of an article that refers to AndreiLux's thread back at this forum. Basically - a useless thread. He didn't even link a source which is officially illegal because it's a quote.

I'm just sick of seeing whining a**holes posting sh*t here and Andrei's original thread. Seriously, "I'm selling my Galaxy S4" is a completely useless post and there's at least 60% of all posts in this and the original thread of similar kind of posts.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
Agree on the first part. I am surprised this was not locked for violating basic rule of not copy pasting the entire article. I have seen threads locked or moderated in past for this.

Anyway, this is never ending story at the moment in the follow up posts. I am done with this thread. :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] @rbiter:
blah, blah, blah. i keep seeing this thread derailing, but i do want to point out something from your post. of those ~5MM "enthusiasts" on xda i am quite sure ~5k of them or so are serious developers doing this for fun, hobby, profit, cool factor or whatever good or bad reason. but many of those developers, if helped with source code or whatever necessary for the situation, help android/linux live at the bleeding edge of software. whether samsung or insert OEM here, wants to help or not, those developers are stepping stones for the OEM's whether they want to admit/help or not. and maybe when they aren't doing something innovative, bleeding edge or fixing something they could tweak what is broken/inefficient. after the fact. after the product is released. look at the success of the nexus brand. no it is not selling like hotcakes, but many of things that come from that brand of handsets, usually spill over somehow someway into other phones. the beauty of open source and why it is so successful and will be so successful in the future to the chagrin of any entity holding claim to X patent or something proprietary, is the sharing part. plain and simple. the mine, my, me crowd whether it is samsung or apple is just holding up progress. plain and simple.
[Galaxy S 4 General] 0ri0n:
Wow... this thread got derailed quick.

Getting back on topic, here is the latest on Samsung's Exynos SoC. Looks like its not as bad as people thought.

http://www.samsung.com/us/news/206899
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tears for Fears:
Good old times!
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NBA195:
Hi there, im new in this forum and i want to ask some questions. So:

-can i install the new cm10 on jelly bean 4.1.2 or i must downgrade to 4.0.3?

-if mod of stock v20c V2 kdz file contains unlocked bootloader and recovery and is it safe like upgrading to the original 4.1.2 via KDZ ?

Sorry for my english. I hope you understood me :)
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sabyn:
You will need to downgrade to 4.0.3 or you will have problem with your sim signal or if you try to install after baseband you will have randon reboot/ bootloop.

So, downgrade to 4.0.3 , install cm10 and if need, install v10baseband, there will be no problem.

I tested this, so trust me ;)

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O , and a very good tip for you, install CM 10 v20130414 which have autorotate working and after the last version. [ i think is 20130526 or something like this]. Just flash this 414 CM 10 version and after from Meniu-Setting-About Phone-CM update, download and update the last version.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djhot143:
Hi Friends,

My Karbonn A30 has bricked. I did so many experiment on my phone and also stucked several time with some problem but i did solved that problems. Unfortunately this time i am helpless with my phone.Now i am going to explain you what i did with my phone and what problem i am facing.

NOTE: My phone was rooted by using "Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v18" process.

Two days back i flashed TITAN MOBILE ROM in my Karbonn A30 but that was unsuccessful,After that my phone was not able to boot and also it was not able to boot in recovery mode using Volume up + Power key. Then with some R&D i get a new option using Volume Down + Power key that option is for my mobile hardware test. In that option i formatted my "emmc" then after my phone was able boot in CWMR recovery mode.Then i wiped my all data and system using CWM Recovery,Also did Restore factory.

After that i was regularly getting error message on my phone notification " Phone storage corrupted,Format it" Then i formatted that. Then i installed my all apps from by apps_backup. When i rebooted my phone,again i was getting same error message and didn't any option except format it.

Then i decide to check this error after unrooting my phone. So i remove root access. After that i was not getting this error.

Yesterday again i rooted it with same process and again i was getting same error message after installing apps and reboot my phone.

then i decided to flash new rom with same company phone(Karbonn). So i got ROM for Karbonn S5 from google. I flashed that successfully on my phone i was very happy because this rom was having Jellybean OS(4.1.2). But after some time apps started crashing when i logged in my phone using my gmail as usual i did after every factory reset.

Then i re-flashed the same rom(Karonn S5). This time i decided to do factory reset using phone setting before loggin in google account.

That was my blunder mistake. After pressing factory reset my phone got stuck in boot screen.

Then i tried same option to solve it (Volume down + power ) so i can format emmc again to resolve it. But this time after formatting emmc i was in the same condition on boot looping.

I am not able to go in recovery option using my phone key.

I need you help, i can not go service center because i voided my warranty.

NOTE: Currently my phone is not rooted,I checked it using ADB commands. My USB DEBUGGING is showing on but when i put my phone in" phone hardware check mode( using Volume Down + Power key)".

Plz HELP ME TO SOLVE IT.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djhot143:
Problem has been solved but i am very much unhappy with XDA forum because i am not getting any solution from XDA about my Karbonn A30.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prince khurana:
karbon a30 unbrick

I think you need so flash tool of mtk download it and install mtk vcom drivers of your phone in PC And download twrp recovery of cherry mobile titan TV download it you need scatter loading file I can give you links of all above files and full procedure when you download twrp recovery select scatter file in so flash tool and untick all only tick recovery click on recovery and select twrp recovery when you done all things you can pull out your phone battery and disconnect USB pull out the battery some seconds and replace it and connect usb and press f9 and recovery will flash then I will give you nandroid backup okk

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the link of mtk drivers: forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f457/how-install-mtk-driver-windows-xp-vista-7-a-1662956/
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maninderkundu:
signature verification problem

sir,

i also try this ROM in my karbonn a30 ..and also new 4.2 rom

but i got error message

E: signature verification failed

installation aborted.

please tell me how to solve it

my process

i rooted my mobile

power + volume up

then update rom from sd card

update....

E: signature verification failed

installation aborted.

error
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patilprashant777:
plz help me

bro i have rooted my Karbonn A30.while changing the font it will restart and now its only showing boot screen plz help me what can i do??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robin ck:
fix

reflash the stock rom

or do factory reset
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ivanrae@xda:
Whenever I play games like nfshp,raging thunder, gta 3 when I set it to steering by tilting it automatically tilts to the left can you please help me on solving thos problem please

Sent from my GT-S5360 using another person's wifi
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] amit.mb:
That happens due to improper horizontal calibration..

Go to settings > display > horizontal calibration. then keep your device on a flat surface exactly horizontal(on a table or floor) and tap on calibrate... Done:D
[General Questions and Answers] TheVeteran:
Hello dear users, i have a problem with my r800i 2.3.4. I tried to flash Cyanogenmod 9,i forgot some steps and after flashing my phone is dead.It doesnt open and i cant do something about that.Could you help me please? :crying: HELP!!! SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH
[General Questions and Answers] mohsin.r.munshi:
flash stock rom via flashtool of ur Mobile
[General Questions and Answers] McFex:
I know it is hard if English is not your mother tongue, but you should provide more specific information if you really expect someone to help you solve this issue.

Like how "does it not open"?

Can you turn it on?

Does a Logo appear before it goes black?

Did you already try if you can boot into recovery (Reboot your phone in to recovery: Keep Tapping Vol Down or Back or Another key when device is booting)?

But first of all you should post your help request in the appropriate forum:

http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1252