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[Asus Transformer TF700] frankgreimes:
You may be right but it would be great move. I mean this baby will need a ton of RAM given the screen and the ability to run 4k movies I don't know if 2 are enough for that. the good thing is, with increasing RAM tablets are more and more going into the multitasking ability which is obviously a great thing.

Samsung for example has the option to replace the battery without sending the whole thing to the manufacturer, so it can be done.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Deathman20:
Really depends how much ram would be used. Right now with 2 gigs of ran typically I have over 1 gig free most of the time. So really I don't see it being a ram issue to show 4k. It would be a processing issues and memory speed to meet that requirement.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cleanskinned:
From what I can tell from the information currently provided in videos and pictures, the next transformer appears to have the same dimensions of the TF700. Ideally, it will be compatible with the existing keyboard dock and form fitted cases made for the TF700. Is this the general consensus?
[Asus Transformer TF700] legendary1022:
They have teased another announcement at IFA next week. I just don't understand what has happened to the next Infinity that was shown in June and we haven't gotten a peep since. I guess it is the Infinity's official release, seeing as there seems to have had issues with production of the Tegra 4. Maybe they have redesigned to use a Snapdragon 800? Why do you think we haven't seen a release yet?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
I just hope that Asus has learned from their past tablets and not made the same design and/or component choice errors again. I'd really like to have no reason to NOT get the new Infinity pad.

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
The TF700 was announced in February 2012. Remember how long it took until you could actually buy it?
[Asus Transformer TF700] PsychoSane:
I feel as though I was burned by Asus with the TF-700. I feel as though someone in Asus management made a conscious financial decision to screw everyone who bought the tablet over. They had to know that the machine lagged like hell, but they didn't give a crap and pressed it into production anyway. The rest of the package was enticing, but the I/O is unforgivable in my opinion.

It's made me feel like avoiding Asus tablets altogether, and I know I'm not alone. What a short sighted decision, carelessly squandering a company's reputation. It's much easier to keep your core customers happy than it is to entice new customers, let alone entice burned customers back into the fold. Stupid, stupid, decision. At least the motherboard division hasn't bumped it's head, yet...........
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
Sorry for breaking the bad news to you, but I am quite sure that as of now, Android is a 32-bit OS and ARM Cortex-A15 SoCs are 32-bit processors, so my best guess is that you will never see 4 GB devices this year. You will need to wait for Cortex-A50 series (64-bit processors) to address the hardware RAM limit.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Quoting Wikipedia:

It's going to take a while until we see 1 TB RAM in a tablet. :) By then, I'm sure we don't have to worry about 32 bit processors...
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Looks like Sep 4th is d-day..... :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
Where's the Trio though? The current infinity with Clean ROM is fine. I can't see paying over $500 for a slightly upgraded new infinity just for model year change.
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
As far as I know, Large Physical Address Extension is just a work around, translating the 40-bit physical memory addresses to 32-bit virtual memory addresses, with the limitation that one app cannot address more than 4GB RAM. To me, it is still inferior to having a full-blown 64-bit OS and hardware. Furthermore, adding more RAM means more battery drains, so my guess is that OEMs won't do it until FinFET transistors becomes available (GloboFoundries and TSCM will only start 14 and 16nm process technology next year). Most importantly, we won't be able to fully utilize 4GB RAM until ARMv8 is implemented. Lastly, a new version of Android is definitely required. I can't see all of this happening this year or anytime soon.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Correct. So don't try to run an enterprise database server on your tablet.

As long as Android support only fullscreen apps, it can always silently kill all background apps, so the whole RAM is available to the foreground app (and background services). So I don't see a pressing need for > 2 GB.

For more desktop-like use, we will see a lot of interesting devices based on Intel's low power Haswell variants, and their new Atom line - like the Trio.
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
Infinity tab 701 is now officia $399 tablet $499 with dock

http://m.androidauthority.com/asus-...eatures-release-date-pricing-official-263118/

The trio looks promising as well

http://m.androidauthority.com/asus-transformer-book-trio-launch-263092/
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Looks like a power-packed tablet for the price. I may have to chance Asus quality for this one... ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] legendary1022:
After an entire year of looking for a high quality 10 inch tablet, two good looking tablets will be dropping this month in the Infinity and the Note 10.1. With the issues I've had with the last two Transformer tablets (Prime and Infinity), it may be time to try out the new Note line, especially now that I have a couple of Logitech K810s (best Bluetooth keyboard I've ever used), having an attached keyboard becomes less of an issue
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Where did you hear that the 2014 Note 10.1 would be available this month?
[Asus Transformer TF700] legendary1022:
Android Central, Engadget, and The Verge all say by the end of Q3. This is the last month of Q3 so it would have to be this month I would assume.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Green_Laser:
I'm no pro on this subject, though interested in knowing, our current tf700 has 1gb of ddr3 (I think ddr3), what is the difference between the tf701's ddr3L, besides the jump from 1gb to 2gb?

Will the i/O be fixed by this improvement, if any ?

Can we tell at this point, or are there other specs we need to know to find out (such as physically opening the device, tests, etc?)

Having a new infinity out is cool, but not cool if same i/o speeds/lag exists (of course t4 faster, but 701 has higher graphics too).

Even if the full picture is unclear at this moment, is the new infinity headed in a better direction or are you guys feeling it's same situation?
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
I don't count this press release as "news". It is basically the same info....still no release date and no price for the trio.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Cool - I had only seen mention of the new transformer 701 being available by the end of Q3.

It would be awesome if the Nexus 10 2 was available at the same time. :cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
I'm gonna try to be optimistic on this one even though Asus disappointed me 3x (prime, tf700, nexus 7). If they fail me again I will buy the hp slatebook x2 again.
[Asus Transformer TF700] maxal:
I have a buyer lined up to buy my Asus tf700 when I am ready to sell it so I will be looking at the new Asus tf701, Asus Book and the Samsung Note 10.1 subject to cost and availability in the UK:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] htcplussony:
Though I would probably never buy another 10 inch tablet again, if I did I rather take my chances the Note 10.1 2014. Trust Samsung over Asus and on the chipset front, rather have Snapdragon 800/Octa over Tegra 4. This is Samsung's third attempt at a A15 chipset and they are bound to finally get it right.

EDIT I only just noticed now the 10.1 2014 has the home, menu and back buttons on the bezel :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] huy_lonewolf:
I am actually quite excited about all the products introduced at IFA this year. Both the Xperia Z1 and Note 3 are really compelling smartphones, and on the tablet front, the new TF701T and Note 10.1 are also decent products. I guess we will have the same discussion like last year to pick between the 2 tablets, but given Samsung and ASUS' track records, Note 10.1 seems to be a better tablet overall if you don't care about the keyboard dock. The note 10.1 has better specs (Tegra 4 seems to have battery drain, heat problem and does not support OpenGL ES 3.0, which is an important feature of Android 4.3). However, I don't like the physical buttons of the Note 10.1 and Samsung's terrible tablet UI (the notification shade is full screen, just like on a phone, seriously), Regardless, I will wait for Anandtech to review both products and run Androbench on the new TF701T to see if ASUS has fixed the I/O problem. My guess for now is that ASUS will use the same flash storage as the new Nexus 7, which is faster, just not as fast as those eMMCs in Samsung devices.
[Asus Transformer TF700] legendary1022:
Android Central finally has a hands on video of the device.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcNMo9SQyA8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Still a very difficult decision to risk another try with a Transformer or go with the Galaxy Note 10.1 that looks really impressive. Can't wait for reviews.
[Asus Transformer TF700] joelxda:
Transformer Book Trio

Love everything about the Transformer Trio (especially the fact that the dock is a PC that you can just connect a monitor to and use the table separately, and also that it also runs Android)...with one exception - no pen/stylus/digitizer/whatchamacallit!

C'mon Asus, touch screen + Windows 8, at least give users the option of a pen
[Asus Transformer TF700] Pretoriano80:
At first sight it looks exactly as the tf700t,the stupid headphones hole is still on the bottom (i wonder is Asus designers ever tried to plug some headphones without a 90° jack, so they can see how wonderful it is to play a game in that situation) and again the stupid speaker on the back, right where your hand will be.

Also, i can't wait to see how Tegra4 will handle games at such a high resolution.... Tegra3 was struggling with 1900x1200.
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
I just want confirmation that the I/O problems are gone - but at this new, lower price than I paid for my tablet and dock combo, I *seriously* doubt it. ASUS is still a corporation, and they are in the business of making a profit. They (have to) cut corners somewhere.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Green_Laser:
This ^^

Is all that matters to me too.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Colchiro:
Don't we all.

If this Antutu screen, posted by Ben from Asus, is any indication, it might be fixed:

FWIW, running Cromi-x 5, stock kernel OC'd to 1700 and in performance mode, I only get 16064. Ben's pad seems to be at least 33,330, easily double mine.

FWIW, the last two columns are Database I/O and Storage I/O. Compare those with the other benchmarks below it. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
Interestingly enough, that looks almost identical to my TF700 with dock, with the exception that his dock looks to be more of a matte color (and it's got hte JB 4.2.x UI).

Nice scores, though :P I'd still probably wait about a month after release just to have a breakdown video and independent verification of the actual ICs on the board(s).
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
Does the kb dock still have a full size sd slot?
[Asus Transformer TF700] HeartWare42:
Yes - according to reports...
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
I donated my TF300 and dock to my wife, since her HTC Flyer went bad due to shorted usb connector.

Might need to consider this, but the first two T4 devices have sleep and throttle issues (Toshiba and Shield). Chip issue, or poor firmware?
[Asus Transformer TF700] *justintime*:
They already did cut the corners to develop in the technical hardware and not in design (which is not necessary, really love it)

Same housing so no development costs in designs and moulding parts.

I have a tf700 which only get better with,Cromi. Hope this time it won't be necessary to flash and tweak.

499 is a descent price. But I wish they used a Snapdragon. It just more convincing on the spec sheet.

Let's hope it will blink out in the tests... So no pre order yet for me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
Does anyone have a release date yet for the tf701t?
[Asus Transformer TF700] frankgreimes:
Going to wait for the official reviews and videos but it sounds very impressive, hopefully the specs are able to handle the awesome resolution flawlessly.
[Asus Transformer TF700] *justintime*:
In the Netherlands it's going to be 29 November. For the 32gb version.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Colchiro:
Time to put this tab on fleeBay... :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
TF701T Updated release date and price

Looks like the US release date is more likely November rather than September:

Asus Infinity TF701T preview

Pricing doesn't sound set in stone yet either... :crying:
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
2 more months of CROMi-X then ;) :p
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
I was hoping you were getting the Trio not the new infinity.:crying:
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
I'm not made of money! Trio looks interesesting - can it be unlocked? We'll have to wait and see......
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
If you bought your tablet on Amazon is their a way to resell it there?
[Asus Transformer TF700] GigaSPX:
I'm not exactly too excited about TF701. Other than the performance and screen ups, Camera got downgraded and it's not aluminum anymore? The new Galaxy Note 10.1 by far beats on winning best Android Tablet so far...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Colchiro:
I've had plenty of tablets without docks and decided to stick with a dock, if possible. Not a huge fan of the TF700 dock's keyboard, but much better than a screen keyboard.
[Asus Transformer TF700] kthz:
So, the right question would be :

Is TF700T's dock compatible with TF701 Tablet? Would save us some money for upgrading.. (Let's keep dreaming)
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
Probably is but they're different colors. It would be a pretty bad contrast.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Unlikely - and if it is, you won't get USB 3.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Trans-amers:
Guys i spot a change in the hands-on of tf701 on cnet.

The port(40pin?) is changed to a smaller port, which means the dock of new transformer may not be docked with the old infinity...:(:(

(Correct me if I'm wrong,thx)

Sent from my Awesome Nexus⁴
[Asus Transformer TF700] kthz:
Nicely spotted. This would confirm that Asus wants people to fully upgrade their sets.
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
Thought ASUS had mentioned the price would be $400 for the 32GB, but the CNET Sept 11 video suggests they are saying it could still be up to $500. Makes my $180 32GB Nook HD+ easier to hold on to for a while longer- if $500. HD+ is great with web, video and emulators, plus games like Dead Trigger play smooth. Not so for Asphalt 7 and Vice City though. Not smooth for those on the HD+, but also have those games on the Excite 7.7 and iPad 4 :)

If the 701 is $400, it will sell HUGE, but how much less if $500? This sales volume & total profit curve must be why they have still not decided on the price. It could be a case of selling less at $500, but still making more money. Catch is they rely on attach rates of the keyboard dock to make money.

My guess is it will release for $400 so they sell more units and then more attach rate volume for the keyboard docks. They have stated over an over they do not make much money on the tablet and make most of the money with the docks. Then again, do the math if the tablet is $100 more..... I am back to 50/50 on price....... Maybe they will meet in the middle at $450 retail ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] mertmag:
Lag issues

Your 100% correct about the lag issues. The funny thing is I sold my tf700t when I finally had the problems eliminated with a cromi rom and pimp my rom. But why deal with the problems for a year before it's fixed. The Note 2014 looks to have it all and if my wifes galaxy tab I'm using now is any indication I won't have to deal with the lag. I'll pay the extra and not deal with the lag BS.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
No way the TF701 will sell for $399 - that's only $50 more than several other tablets Asus sells with much lower specs. Would be awesome if it did though... ;)

Sent from my Nexus 7 FHD
[Asus Transformer TF700] ziprar:
I am probably buying this, I just hope there will be no IO isssues like in the old infinity.
[Asus Transformer TF700] GitAlongLilDoggies:
After seeing these benchmark test results I pulled the trigger and pre-ordered the TF701T and New dock from excaliberpc.com

www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlVqTLM3S20

Can't wait for Nov. 3rd to roll around!!!:cool:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Deathman20:
So the tablet is $450 + $150 for dock.

And only a single speaker still... boo. Looks good and fast, but I'm happy with my N7 2013 edition right now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
That sounds realistic given the specs and typical Asus pricing.

That just sucks. So much for two forward-facing speakers, :(

Asus also needs to ditch the proprietary charging port...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Deathman20:
Its a shame but glad I got rid of my TF700... having a tablet without the slow issues is such a huge difference. Still give props to the devs for making it work as well as it did on here.

Indeed major dislike in the proprietary charging connector... that sucked having to deal with that. I like it where I can use my phones charger or any other charger I have laying around to utilize for a charger.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
And use what instead? Standard USB with 6 hours charging time?
[Asus Transformer TF700] GitAlongLilDoggies:
I was hoping for stereo speakers but not a deal breaker for me. I've got a high-end pair of Klipsch earbuds and a set of original AKG stereo headphones. Rock on....
[Asus Transformer TF700] rushless:
Pricing makes more sense. Especially since they already stated they make most of their money selling the keyboards.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xsessive:
Really it wont come with pen support?
[Asus Transformer TF700] joelxda:
I might be wrong but nothing I've seen so far suggests that it will.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xsessive:
it better cuz that would be my dream device :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Yes, I would trade longer charge time for a microUSB charging port.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Deathman20:
Even charging on a MicroUSB port, ramp it up to 2 Amps and it can charge decently. I would of loved that for my Transformer. Or hell even an option for the quick charge and micro USB charge!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
That would work for me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JoinTheRealms:
Really, why? Asus proprietary port works very well in this application. MicroUSB is delicate, breakable and wears easy, using it with the dock would not be a good experience at all.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Any word yet on when the Asus TF701T will be available in the US?
[Asus Transformer TF700] srjgrg1:
New asus transformer Infinity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycZLZnXPAG0

check this video guys new asus transfomer infinity is beast.

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[Asus Transformer TF700] Hendrickson:
Thanks, I've seen for all reviews up so far that there is the odd stutters and lag here and there. Mike mentions this in his review too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?annot...&feature=iv&src_vid=r5KAwRdifHo&v=omQuXH73ZKw

Thats a bit annoying to say the least and disappointing battery life too he said. I wonder if the IO flash speed bottle neck is gone?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Deathman20:
It looks like the IO issue is gone. I mean look at how quickly he is firing up apps and switching them. Course nothing beats installing and trying to open apps at the same time. That's where you'll really notice if there is any lag. As well just seeing how the revamped Nexus 7 (2013) is, its a vast improvement over the last.
[Asus Transformer TF700] frankgreimes:
Wowo this thing is a beauty, and lightning fast. Going to wait a bit but it will definitely replace my tf 300

The guy is really blasting through apps
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hendrickson:
There were a few lags reported by users on some other forums. But it seems the new patch OTA update has fixed it as well as the rebooting and missing mouse cursor issue. I guess I'll find out.

Ordered one already to replace my Nexus 10 32gb (Which is great btw, but need mirco sd and keyboard doc. Can't bear to go back to 1080p)
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Where did you order it from?
[Asus Transformer TF700] aznmode:
+1
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hendrickson:
Exclaibur PC

http://www.excaliberpc.com/628213/asus-transformer-pad-tf701t-b1-gr-10.1.html

Found a 64GB version for cheaper :( Might cancel my Excalibur order.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/SALE-BRA...D-/221303187721?ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:AU:1123
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
Did Excaliber provide a ship date?

I ask because they've had the 32 GB TF701T listed as "pre-order" for the last week or so...

Also, I looked at the eBay listed and found the seller doesn't ship to the US?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hendrickson:
3rd of Nov ship date.

I'm in Europe so that seller is good for me. Excalibur ship to US of course.
[Asus Transformer TF700] KinetiClutch:
Does it seem like a big enough upgrade to go from a TF700 to a TF701 considering the optimisation provided by CROMI?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Hendrickson:
Better and sharper screen, faster CPU/GPU, faster flash chips. But little less battery life. I'm coming from a Nexus 10 and wanted a dock keyboard for more battery and some serious typing. I have a bluetooth keyboard that is just rubbish. So for me its a worthy upgrade. And keep the same screen res was important for me. I didn't want to go with 1080p

Then wait till the TF701t gets custom roms....

Personally if it was me. I would keep the TF700 if your happy with it now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] wpbear:
Has anyone heard anymore about the Trio in the USA? Australia official release was last week for AUD 1599$.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marcmarshall:
32 or 64 GB?

I am up for the new TF701T. Just wondering if I should lay down the extra bucks for the 64 gig version. Any thoughts?
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
The new TF701 Threads are up!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Angus66:
I'm of the opinion that you should buy the highest amount of built-in storage that you can afford...

...your intended use of the tablet would be the next determining factor. Do you tend to install a ton of apps or a ton of movies?

Movies can go on a micro SD card - apps not so much.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marcmarshall:
I think I agree. I am replacing my TF101. I always end up with tons of apps. Too bad though because the 32 gig is already on sale (not pre order) on Amazon and I have been waiting for months! Guess I week wait a bit longer.

Thanks
[Asus Transformer TF700] marcmarshall:
I'm pretty impressed by what I have been reading about the Intel Baytrails. The T100 with full Windows 8.1 and Office looks like a great price at $400. I've never used a Windows tablet but it would be nice to be able to run any Windows app. He'll just decent cut and paste would be a blessing. I'm considering the T100 over the TF701T. $150 less with the dock. I'll not a gamer and don't photo edit. Any thoughts?
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Stay away from anything with less than 200 dpi. 1366*768 is pathetic.
[Asus Transformer TF700] JoinTheRealms:
Yip considering the baytrail soc looks as if not more capable than the tegra 4 its a real let down. i would have rathered 1280x800 over the scourge of 1366x768.
[Asus Transformer TF700] marcmarshall:
and.the 701 screen is stellar. The Baytrail also suffers in graphics. I read maybe 25% of the core chips.
[Asus Transformer TF700] xRevilatioNx:
The 701 screen is breathtaking. Especially when playing back 4k Video at the 701's native resolution . Just WOW!