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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Give Nowicom/Sebastian a break

I am a programmer and I knew on Tuesday that you guys wouldnt get the ROM.

Why!!!

Because under pressure NOBODY can deliver a quality product. What you guys were doing was to pressurize Seb into delivering the ROM.He in turn must have turned up the heat on his poor programmer. No wonder the programmer made mistakes.

Seb just take it cool and get the ROM done. You will still make your money cos the imate Jam is HOT!! and demand is gonna strip supply in the medium term.

As soon as its done I am buying my JAM from Nowicom.

I am not some faceless guest.

I am the OldManChild
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
I'm not. Someone else will have to. What I'm going to do is have a look at the ROM files, see if the headers are similar in structure to the BlueAngel, and if so, try to modify those headers to enable an install.

In the meantime, it would be a useful first step if a few of you with the devices in hand could run the attached file on the Compact and tell me the results of Devicedata.txt.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
OldManChild I will disagree with you in one thing! None that calls him self a respectable programmer would hack any type of file without keeping a copy of the original file stored somewhere else intact! So the gay that Sebastian used to get the ROM hacked is probably a stupid "I think I know everything" type of "programmer".
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
Talk about version control !!

:lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Whats the name of the file it creates? cause it doesn't seem to work!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jpa:
same thing for me. Nothing in the directory ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] digger:
wnpublic: extracted and tried to run, but it just doesn't seem to run (and no file is generated). When extracted the file is 9kb - does that sound correct?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Look in //Windows. sorry.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jpa:
thanks for your help
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Ok, that is promising.

"PM10A" is the device id

GER is the country code

T-MOB101 is the operator ID.

Nobody need do it anymore.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
wnpublic, you seem to be our new hero!

Did you get hold of the imate JAM ROM?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Well i hope it works, but please don't place all your hopes on me. you're just setting me up to be the bad guy if it doesn't work.

It really might not work. There's a lot of things that need to come together. I only promise to try.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Please try! If it works for your friends MDA Compact it will probably work for us too! Isn't it? :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
@wnpublic

Well, you've already done much more than anyone here expected, so you're probably already in everyone's good books.

And remember ... you could get a FREE Compact from nowicom too!

When would we have something to try then? Pardon my ignorance in this regard.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
I am waiting for the nowicom fellow to send me the files that his developerguy was working on. I can't do anything until i see those files, or otherwise get a full copy of the imate JAM rom.

He said he would get them to me in a few hours. We'll then have to see what has been done to them. The indication was that he had fried his original copy somehow. we'll see.

BTW, I know this will not make any of you happy, and I understand your impatience to get an english version, but I can assure you that whatever happens, as soon as Carrier Devices releases a ROM update for the JAM - something it does pretty often - that update will almost certainly be able to be loaded on your devices fairly easily. The devicedata.txt file indicates to me that the method will be the same.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] jpa:
Can you explain us how to backup all the rom on a compacr ? If i use mtty and d2s as command is it the good way ?

Thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] skeye:
I am a boss of russian firm who sale already t-mobile compacts in Russia (webpanel.ru) with germany rom. I have a couple of programmers in my staff and we can play with this problem. Can somebody send me an english rom from i-mate jam or s100 and any usifull information? My e-mail is: igor@spirin.ru.

Thanks,

Igor Spirin
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Igor have a look at http://www.compactjam.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12&PN=1&TPN=2 someone seems to have a copy of that rom already
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
MDA Compact upgrades

MDA Compact Upgrades

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can anyone help me to updte my MDA Compact to English. I had buy it today from t-mobile Germany. thanks

my E-mail misobhy@hotmail.com :roll:

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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
wnpublic do you have any news for us??? Please give us a report of your progress! We are despirate! :oops:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
wnpublic are you working on it? Please tell us!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
I guess he's in america, so could probably be sleeping at the moment! 8)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
HTC MDA compact ROM

T-mobile simlocked English ROM

Extracted with "mtty.exe" using "d2s" command.

Filled the sd card with zero's first

Read off sd card with hex editor. (copy sectors)

Deleted the last zero's to get 54 mb file.

Have fun!

btw I'm to "chicken" to try to set it back on my MDA.....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Xetra:
someone tried s2d on a german mda ? :o)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
That would be nowicom. (I guess)

But he doesn't give details.....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
If all of you people are trying to download the ROM at the same time then nowicom won't be able to get the file and unlock it! Please stop getting that file! Its locked and of no use to you!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
s2d

I've tried several time s2d with different devices but it haven't done anything!

Has some one had better success of me?

Cheers
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
How did you put the file (btw which file?) on sd card?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Xetra:
i don't think simlock is coded in the rom ...

so if someone can do a s2d, it will be ok!

btw i don't think we can flash by another language rom without dumped the bootloader (d2s 0) but it seems this method is not working on the mda compact.

can nowicom uplaod their files on the ftp ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Not allowed to update

Not allowed to update, this is what I get.

But I'm trying something else....

Jest wait! few minute!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Press power to flash

Press power to flash!!!!!!!!!!!!!

16%

Wooooooooooou
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Did you dare to flash a German MDA Compact with the ROM above???

Very brave man! :shock:

Give us the result! Are you using a T-Mobile sim?

Are you still there alive or you become suicidal after the flash? :cry:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
Ricarddo has the biggest BALLS.:evil:

"d2s 0" doesn't work, MDA hangs on cal checksum.

"h" or "?" for help doesn't work either.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] madds:
hehehe, don't be bad!!!!

That's a brave step (i wouldn't take it in first hand)!!!!

Tell us how your going!!!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Can someone tell us if Riccardo commited suicide? Can I make an image of the German ROM and send it to the poor man so he gets his phone working again or is that impossible?

At least he tried we have to help him now for his bravery!

I am not being bad! He has my sympathy! I do consider it a brave thing to do! I hope he is not freaked out by now!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
CheckSum Fail

Download Fail

CheckSum Fail

Aia!!

MDA Compact fuked :evil:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
O NO

I will upload the full 256 mb version, if I zip it it's still 23 mb.

By cutting off the zero's I must have changed the checksum..

Hang in there ricardo, uploading new file right now!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
Maybe this one works....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Just an update from my end.... nowicom has not been able to get my the imate update files yet, so i haven't made any progress.

wn
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
Hi Will

Did you have a look at the sectordump file?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
checksum..

checksum.. this is the problem

Any idea?

Thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Good... we are making progress!!!

I may have a Dopod 818 which is the taiwan version next monday....if I do I can probably upload the rom from that version!

oliver
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Yes, I looked at it with a hexeditor, first string is "MAGICIAN" so that looks good. I will play with it some more.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
Riccardo same checksumproblem with new file?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
I'm trying it now.

Let me see... :arrow:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Yes, same problem "Not allowed update".

Now I'm trying to change with hex editor but I think I'll have check error again, as I don't know how to recalculate it!!!!!

I'm not programmer so any help would be great!

Cheers
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Please, let me know how did you extract the ROM to SD and to PC.

Thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Riccardo, what method did you use to get the image onto the SD card? XDAtools?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
I'm extracting a new image from the phone.

After that I'm making another image to see if the checksums are the same.

I'm having probblems with reading the sd card, it keeps coming up with unreadable sectors...

Second reason to buy a SD wifi card :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
These is what I'm doing:

1. I make SD ROM backup of MDA C. with d2s

2. I use ntrw.exe, to save the content to PC from SD

3. with hex prog. I copy the first bytes from the header of backup file

and I paste them over to the sectordump binary file and I save it

5. with ntrw I write back the ROM onto SD card

6. I put the SD card in Compact and I enter bootloader mode (wait a bit)...

7. press "Power" to flash...

At the end of flashing, it will complain, that "checksum failed" and the device is unusable!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Do I need a same SD Card size?

I'm using a 128MB SD Card, may be is this the checksum problem? :roll:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
here is the process from nowicom:

first at all: you guys send me more mails in the last 24hours, than i can answer in one life :lol: , so please dont be mad if i dont answer all in right time. Also i had some meetings today so i didnt had much time at all.

Some of you wrote me how to get the ROM from the broken compact, i tryed that now but it wont work- i need a 128MB card for it. Now i have one, tryed it again and the process stops.

I have time tonight, so i will work on it.

I let you know. If you have some ideas, please post it here- thats better than mail :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
The best thing you could possibly do is to provide the imate rom files you say your developer was working on.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Sebastian I asked you several times the last couple of days! Are you sure you dont have a clean copy of the original ROM that was send to you?

At the beggining you said that you were working together with HTC and iMate to get an English ROM upgrade and now out all of the sudden you ask for help from all of us.

I dont care if its a cracked ROM or not as long as I can get an english ROM to my MDA Compact and be able to flash it with future upgrades but could you please tell us the whole truth to the people that trusted you?

I understand that no matter what ROM we have on our MDA Compacts you will cover us with the warranty but what's the case? Do you real have iMate and HTC helping you with the ROM? Cause if you do then asking for help from us doesn't sound logical!!!

Please give us a statement with the truth of the whole situation! So we all know the truth and can make up our minds for Nowicom. I would like to be a customer of you in the future but I need the truth and nothing but the truth.

I guess all of us waiting for your answer now!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Evrithing would be much easyer if we can have a original Upgade.exe :shock:

I'm able to see T-mobile splash image with D1.01.00 WWE but device is blocked!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] madds:
What i understand from nowicom last post is that the only thing they have is a imate jam. And it's broken!

Is this true?

Thank's
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] madds:
Did you tried a hard-reset after upgrading???

Some ipaqs require one to boot after a upgrade!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
More and more I believe the existing tools are not working for the MDA compact.

I'm not able to produce the same ROMbackup twice.

Everytime I make a ROMbackup it's a little different.....

Maybe my mini sd card is not suitable or broken.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
ok :wink:

I dont have a jam, we only have MDA compact here. A friend from Dubai, my programmer know him, made a rom image from a imate, the developer was working on it.

I fired him this morning (coz its the second time he ****ed me like that), he also cheats around about giving me the files he have, he tells me he will send me that after he is back home, but he dont do it :( .

The Plan and idea was (the russian guy here told me that) to get the rom image from the broken compact the developer was working on.

Thats what i am trying in the moment...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] madds:
How can i enter bootloader?

Thank's
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
brake the Software :o :lol: , like we did

no, sorry, just kidding
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Bman did you try another SD card? Is it hard to get one from someone else? Your will to halp us and Ricardo's sacrifice of his MDA Compact seems to be the light at the end of tunnel! Please dont give up guys!

And Sebastian I am sure you can read my previous message and I assure you its better to give us the truth than hiding and only asking for help in here!

Bman and Ricardo thank you for all your efforts!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Bman:
GOOD IDEA!

My camera has one!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
what else you want to know?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Yes,

no way to make it work.

For Bootloader jest press and hold power, camera buttons and do a soft reset.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Seba, have you asked the English ROM to CS?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
i did what`?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Don't you know CS Communication Service GMBH, you gave me the phone number once!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
Aaaaaaah, you are this Riccardo :lol: , hi, i hope you are fine.

No, CS Communication dont have english files yet :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Yes, it's me! :D

****.. I had the suspicion of that!!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
I cannot speak on Seb's behalf but I have been in his position a couple of times (I sell computer hardware). Sometimes there are things that you do everyday and take them forgranted. Then one day you try doing the same thing on a similar piece of hardware (or possibly on the same thing) and it doesn't work.

So probably Seb was 100% sure that he will get the English ROM, but to his surprise it didn't. At least he was man enough to offer us (his customers) to send the device back, like I just did today. He is paying for the shipping too. So that's very good service and on my behalf he paid for his "mistake".

(Now it's just a matter of waiting for the money refund Mr. Nowicom :wink: )
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Sebastian all I want to know is if my MDA Compact has a failure that would normally my warranty would cover and its flashed with another ROM will you be fixing it?

And second question you seemed to have some help from your distributor in Dubai! If thats the case why dont you ask him to send you the ROMs again? I guess you only have an iMate JAM and no support of any kind from either iMate JAM or HTC. Please clarify that
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
I've done last try, with out any progress.

I think I need same size of SD image and I've only 128MB Card.

Now I must go home to my family.

Ciao.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
Yeah, i only have the "support" from the imate Distri in Dubai. He will give me Saturday a new ROm image and he will send me out a english imate saturday too.

He dont have some in stock anymore and he is not in the office till saturday (Friday in Dubai= like Sunday in Europe)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
To add a little perspective here:

This is a brand new device, that has barely been released - in fact it hasn't been released in the form most people would like it, as the imate JAM. For the folks who want to take a German-speaking model and make it an English-speaking one, please realize you will be at the bleeding edge. That is cool, because you will have something your friends do not, but it is also risky because you are doing unauthorized things to make it suitable for your use.

Neither t-mobile nor i-mate will help you if something goes wrong. If a reseller makes you a separate guarantee, that is fine if you want to return it, but as you can tell from dealing with mr. nowicom, no matter how nice he is, he and his group cannot provide meaningful technical support for this device. You will be relying on this forum largely for that. That usually works out, but there can be delays and frustrations, and you can't FORCE people here to help you, like you could with a carrier.

Another thing to think about: what you are trying to do here by loading an english ROM onto the German device via SD will only update the OS and extended ROM. You will not updating the Radio stack - it is not possible through this method. If there is a radio stack upgrade you will need to find another way to do that.

Now, that said, if you have a german compact in your hand right now, why not take a deep breath, enjoy it as much as you can in deutsche, and wait for imate to release its first ROM upgrade for the Jam in a few weeks or a month? Show your friends that you're so cool, you have a device that doesn't even speak english yet! I can assure you that, on the basis of what the Devicedata.txt file indicated, you will be able to install a full upgrade from imate, including the radio stack, with a minor amount of twiddling. The process is extremely well documented and simple. And you will have a nice, hacked english rom phone.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Hello Mr. Nowicom,

I just order a MDA Compact from your site (David from France).

I know that you don't have any MDA in stock but I can wait ;-)

I know that is not the real topic but, are you sure you'll get more MDA Compact next week ? ;-)

Thanks for your support here !!

Riff Raff
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] nowicom:
:lol: Yeah, we will, dont worry- but i wont guarantee anymore when we have the english ROM .
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] itsme:
( i have not read most of this thread, just posting some information that may be useful )

this is what i have figured out so far about the htc-magician ( i-mate jam, mda compact )

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianHardwareOverview

i wrote a tool to update the extended rom, but have to build in some safety measures, to prevent people from breaking their device, when using it incorrectly. before i release it to the public.

if i remember correctly the nbf files were not very different from the format used for the blueangel / qtek9090 / xda3.

look for xda3nbftool in the forum.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] wnpublic:
Thanks itsme.

FYI for the people in this forum, itsme wrote the xda2nbftool (now xda3nbftool) which ended up being THE critical piece of software to get everyone's German MDA3 flashed with the imate PDA2k english ROM. We figured out the header structure of the BlueAngel nbf files and with some modifications to xda2nbftool, were successful in flashing.

This is the tool i was proposing to use to mod the imate .nbf files to get them onto the Compact. Devicedata.txt from the Magician showed a clearly defined header similar in structure to the Blueangel. So far however, no one has come up with the imate's radio.nbf, ms_.nbf, and Nk.nbf files needed to do this.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Thanks for being very helpful nowicom. :D I, too, returned mine today. I would have loved to kept it but understandably with no English ROM yet, returned it today. I, like kta, appreciate what nowicom is trying to do (correcting their mistake). But, I definitely can't continue to spend all my time checking this forum to see if my new pda-phone-toy is going to be in English today or not. :wink:

I, too, am waiting on refund. The device should reach you guys by Monday. Thanks for your help and good luck in the future. You seem to be trying to do the right thing which will eventually help your business.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
@wnpublic

I have a "newbe" question : is there a process to extract the 3 rom files from an NL t-mobile compact with an english rom ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] mikewchandler:
Crap. I guess I wasn't logged in. Sorry.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Riccardo did you manage to get your MDA working again?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
@NOWICOM

Sebastian can you please send the ROM files as soon as you get them from your Dubai distributor to wnpublic? He seems to be the only one that is capable of solving our problem.

Regards,

katsj
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Wiz:
I have posted the full ROM dump (to a 256Mb SD card) on ftp.xda-developers.com / Magician ... zipped 170Mb
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] Riccardo:
Yes, no problem with the MDA is still working (I made a Backup of OS image).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
As far as I can remember you had a German OS right? Do you mean that you managed to change it in English? How did you get the backup? Can I make a backup of my German ROM so I can try flashing and if I am in trouble I can get the German ROM back? Please tell us Riccardo!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] kta:
katsj, I think he means that he had a backup of the German ROM and he re-installed that.

Latest news from expansys are that they had their stock released and are waiting for the flight details. If that's the case, I will have a JAM in English available next week. I would be glad to help in any possible way.

Although probably I wouldn't be the only one :lol:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] katsj:
Thanks kta I would appreciate it so muc if you could help me to flash my German MDA Compact with an Ebglish ROM! :wink:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
For to do a backup follow the instructions:

-make a backup of your device with xbackup (it is a program in your MDA Compact).

-insert a sd card on your device,

-press and hold power and camera button and do a soft reset (you will see unlighted screen with some words and number)

-connect your device to your PC with the USB cable and disable USB on Active sync

-run MTTY.exe and select USB

-press enter, type d2s and press enter again (these command should backup ROM in to SD)

-when finish (you'll see it by device display) get the SD and insert it to a cards reader

-for to copy the file in SD Card to your PC you have to use NTRW and run it with this command: c:/ntrw read MDAc.nb1 x: (x is your card reader so replace with the letter of your card reader and have NTRW in C:)

-after that you should have in C: a file called MDAc.nb1

Hope this's helpfull
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 General] :
Yes but we need also the radio rom and the extended rom backups and we don't know how do this ?