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[Xperia Tablet Z General] mknewman:
After selling my Acer A500 a while back I've hesitated about buying another 10" tablet. I really like it for watching movies but it's a bit of a lug to carry around. The XTZ seems to take care of that with it's petite dimensions.

The reason I haven't jumped yet is the Toshiba Excite Pro and it's gorgeous 2560x1600 screen vs Sony's 1920x1200 and the Snapdragon S4 Pro vs the Tegra 4. I figure Sony is going to have to do an upgrade before too long. If someone roots the Excite Pro (unlikely) I'm jumping all over it. I had a Toshiba Thrive which I returned due to it's size and non-rootability.

Sony has it hands down because of it's easy rootability.

Others I looked at were the HP Slate X2 (poor form factor and overall execution) and the upcoming Kobo Arc 10HD (no microSD).

Sony just came out with the Kitchen version of the XTZ this weekend, and the LTE is supposed to be out this week so it's a pretty active product. That's exciting. I'm just wondering what's next.

Oh, one thing I'm pretty much not crazy about is the Sony's rubber covers over the plugs. I'll definately have a docking station if I do get one.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jwiskowski:
Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 LTE

Asus MeMO Pad FHD 10 LTE

I just got the AT&T variant and am fairly impressed. I'll add more in the days to come. Any questions?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] nex86:
How's the performance compared to the Tablet Z?

I heard the PowerVR SGX 544MP2 isn't that strong as the Adreno 320.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] KanjiMan1977:
The one thing I see is a big push on those stupid nexus tabs... I agree it has impressive spec for the price. But seriously... What were they on when they decided to not have an sd slot on the thing... Seriously... That right there was enough to not even want to look at it in the store. I couldnt care less about the screen rez or quad core processer.

I wanted to see the Samsung note 10.1. But I knew it had an inferior screen.. The Sony Xperia Tablet Z was comming home with me... I knew that deep down inside, the moment I first read about it an very satisfied in paying a lil Xtra for a superior product. (760.00 with the taxes) Now the question is Will they screw up android 4.3 like they did with 4.2.2, even if they do... A fix is just a Rom flash away.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] papakaliati:
Really i dont understand why you care about SD Slot. I used to be a fun also when i had Galaxy S2-S3. But then i got Nexus 10 32 gb and HTC One 32gb. Quess what... Having a 16 Gb SD card and 16 Phone Model is exaclty the same.. I have 8 gb Music on both tablet and phone and on both i have 10 gb of storage free. Its not endless, but even if i want to put movies of them i still get like 2 full seasons of a series ( something in the area of a good 30 hours of watching.) .

You can ofcourse go for 16 gb of music and 60 hours of movies. But , why?

400 Euros for 32 Gb Nexus 10 is by far the smartest purchase you can make. Excellent screen, really capable Cpu,GPU wise and a good battery life.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hasenbein1966:
And XTZ with 64 GB SD card is even smarter purchase. :D

It's probably beyound your scope, but some people use their tablet also for work, not only for entertainment movies or music.

And if you want to have all your important documents with you (like me), then you simply need much space.

No, I don't want to use the "cloud" because I don't want to be annoyed by problems with internet connectivity, roaming fees etc. I just want to turn the device on and - bam - start to work.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] KanjiMan1977:
Sorry dude... but by the time you get 6 decent games on there that's a minimum of a gig a piece, and my movies are high quality on average 4 gigs each 720p, so thats about 6 movies (i know I can use mp4 but I like higher bitrates they look prettier :P ), and whoa... no room for music, well maybe just a couple albums I ripped at 320k. Now I cant have any apps... oh wait come again... Tablet Z to the rescue and its super duper nifty sd card slot! Now I got another 64 gigs for whatever else i want... like every episode of the simpsons... just because I can!

THATS why an SD card slot. I have 16 gigs on my phone and it sucks when you run out.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] papakaliati:
Ofcourse they come handy. But it just doesnt justify the extra 150 for the Device and 60 for the 64 gb Sd card. And then you had to choose every future device with sd card compatibity.

But still my point is that for 380 euro 32 gb Nexus 10 is one of the best bargains there have ever been. It has great Screen, can play everything you throw at it and has a decent battery life. It would be nice if it had an sd card , but if it had one it would have been the best piece of technology that has ever been :P

And if you want imporant documents for work with you then you most definitely require a laptop not a tablet :) . Imho its rare in our generation for a tablet or phone to be extremely capable for the next generation also, and the Nexus 10 has managed it because it was the first android to come out with 1600 p screen.

That being said, if Nexus 10 had its original price ,~430 with 16 gb then ofcourse Tablet Z would be better for almost everyone.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Exnor:
Sold my asus tf101 and got a brand new Memo pad FHD and im loving it... in theorie the 2 x86 cores should outmatch the current competition... lets see what happens.

Sent from Asus MemoPad FHD ME302C
[Xperia Tablet Z General] AllanJacques:
How does display compare to note 10.1 2014?

I was wondering if note´s display was something of a contender or not...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] adamk514:
New to these forums, just bought the Xperia Z Tablet a week ago. How does this tablet stack up to the Nexus 10? I'm wondering since I find the colors fine, but the white is absolutely horrible. I know I read reviews mentioning it being off-white, but its REALLY off white almost yellow compared to my Nexus 4. I love the design, I love the light skin Sony added but every time I switch from my computer (23" Samsung monitor) or my Nexus 4 I realize how dull and yellow the white background is on Google or most sites. Is the Nexus 10 like my N4 in terms of colour?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spartoi:
I'm switching from the Nexus 10 to Tab Z and my only complaint with the Z is the yellowish whites compared to the Nexus 10 which had actual whites.

Sent from my SGP311
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Showbiz1:
Remove the anti-shatter film and white will be white again.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Spartoi:
Is this confirmed? Any disadvantages to removing the film?

Edit: I ended up doing this and the whites have improved significantly. Still not Nexus 10 level but much better than it was before.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Showbiz1:
Nice to hear!

I did feel exactly the same after coming from Samsung galaxy tab 10.1, but with the film removed it improved a lot. Also now I am a lot more used to the screen and I don't think about it that much.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] gulfu:
For me waterproof of z is by far the best feature to beat
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Jequan:
All depends on if you need that pent o write or not i guess.

For me it was not the waterproof feature (i couldn'T care less).

I bought it because it is incrdeibly thin and for a tablet very light. I also like the minimalistic design.

It's quite funny how apple is trying to sell it'S new ipad air as thinnest lightest tablet as if it would be groundbreaking.

It's basically a Xperia z tablet with a load of restrictions.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Turbojugend:
Picked up the Asus FHD 10 last night. Really nice tablet, but I am a little worried about dev for it. I like to tinker with roms and other things and the XTZ has a bunch of dev going on for it right now, especially Ubuntu. Due to the chipset used on the Asus I wonder if that could mean a lack of dev on it? I may exchange it for the XTZ. Any current XTZ owners want to weigh in?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] mrjayviper:
was thinking of getting either the new note or the new transformer infinity. Sony won because of custom ROM support.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] rail205:
Hi guys/gals. Heres the deal. I have a Note 10.1 32gb. Thinking of selling it and picking up a 32GB Xperia Z tablet. Im thinking I could sell my Note for about 300$ and have found a Xperia Z for 350. 3 months old. I never really use the Spen so I wont miss it. Do you think it is worth the upgrade for 50$.

Thanks in advance.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] pangiotis24:
from note 10.1 it is a huge upgrade.The screen is much better and it also has a much better cpu and gpu.It is also waterproof and much more beautiful
[Xperia Tablet Z General] stoneh:
Tablet Z is the realy nice one!:D
[Xperia Tablet Z General] barto760:
z for my xperia is better in all but spen
[Xperia Tablet Z General] xuanphucn:
Where can u find the xperia tablet 32gb for 350?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] samxool:
is anyone else secretly glad there is no new nexus 10?

as far as i am concerned, that means the sony xperia tablet z is easily the best 10 inch android tablet available and the only 10 inch tablet really able to compete with the ipad air.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
The Galaxy TabPRO 10.1 was announced yesterday and, on paper, it beats the iPad Air and the XTZ out of the water...
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hasenbein1966:
Wait a bit, most probably that device, too, has its flaws - the Nexus 10 and the Note 10.1 (2014) also didn't live up to the exorbitant expectations.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Yeah. That's why I said on the paper. Some rumors said XTZ sucessor will be shown at MWC next month. To use S800 processor, of course.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] negrobembon:
That sounds like awesome specs, but knowing samsung they will take the opportunity to cram it up with a lot more useless/buggy features to slow it down to a crawl
[Xperia Tablet Z General] pangiotis24:
Basically samsung has killed it by not using on screen buttons.especially on an android tablet it's a must
[Xperia Tablet Z General] negrobembon:
Forgot about that one, that sucks too

But they do give their tablets that Samsung feel
[Xperia Tablet Z General] dknotty:
Wait till you see the pricing... going to be exorbitant.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] deo777:
these will be really interesting ...I simply can't wait :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Tablet Z General] marcyff2:
Waiting for XTZ1 or XTZ2 or XTZ 2014 ...... whatever it comes as I only hope for that IPS display!
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
As far as I know, our screen is also IPS. It can BE TFT, the view angles and image quality are top high for that. Probably the only improvements will be Triluminos and X Reality and probably a higher resolution.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] vib0vit:
TFT is a thin film transisstor, TN, MVA, IPS, OLED are all using TFT to "controll pixels".
[Xperia Tablet Z General] dknotty:
The Tab PRO 12.2 has a UK retail price of £649 :eek:

Think I'll be getting a Tablet Z.

Samsung has gone a bit crazy with its pricing :eek:
[Xperia Tablet Z General] negrobembon:
649 is a lot of money yeah but it Seems like a normal price to me considering the specs and brand
[Xperia Tablet Z General] kylealanr:
I want to sell my Nexus 10 and Nexus 7 (2013) to get a new tablet, do you guys think the XTZ is still worth it, or should I wait for the rumored refresh?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Felimenta97:
Wait. MWC is a month away only.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] kylealanr:
I'm absolutely going to wait until MWC. But I really want a device that will run the same ROM so my Nexus 5, and since the XTZ has OmniRom support I was leaning toward that. Especially if the XTZ gets cheaper, I may still get one. My Nexus 10 has kinda turned me off ultra high resolution displays.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] hasenbein1966:
You yourself know this is BS, but you write it anyway?

The N10 was the first device with that resolution, but had the wrong processor. Like the Acer A700, it was a forerunner.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] kylealanr:
That's my personal opinion about the matter. I have every right to be skeptical. The S4 Pro is close enough to a Snapdragon 600 that it should be able to keep up with Android for a while, especially because it doesn't have the thermal throttling issues present in the Nexus 4. The Note 10.1 still has issues with lag. The large battery required to power a device like that pushes charge time into the 7-8 hour range. I would be happier with a light tablet that charges in a few hours, while maintaining the larger form factor that I want. For you to tell me my wants and needs from a device are BS is just ridiculous.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] BurnRubber90:
Anybody can give me a quick insight on hows the CPU on this tablet? I have a Nexus 4 and i'm kinda worried the Xperia could have the same cpu throttling issues as my phone (As basically it's the same CPU).

I'm buying the tablet for school and games, so i kinda want it to last without degrading performance.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
dissapointed in the following ways, I hope the downgrade path is easy.

Haptic feedback cannot be turned off.

Phone and contacts no longer fully integrated in one app.

contacts has background etc. that doesnt stick to OS theme.

Cannot disable pictures on contacts.

Cannot toggle contacts with numbers only on/off

Many options in the contacts/phone dissapeared. (yes ones I used)

The call screen is worse than the 7.2 version, smaller buttons for speakerphone etc.

Less options in the OS settings.

Launcher not as good as CM7.2 version.

The clear notifications button seems out of place.

Cancel number button out of place on dialer.

I am also not that satisfied by ICS itself. ICs/CM9 seems overhyped, will try CM10 but given there is not stable CM10 for this phone, and people say CM10 has the same contact issues I think I will be putting CM7.2 on in the end and not getting a s3/s3 mini at all (since they cant use GB).
[Galaxy S II General] 3xeno:
By this logic, you will never be able to purchase any phone in the future, let alone the S3/S3 Mini. Are you sure you are in the correct device thread though? Just confirming.
[Galaxy S II General] noim:
What the hell u talking abt? Were u living in the 90s ?? ICS is history !! We r rocking in 4.1 Jelly bean & u talking abt Gingerbread ....makes he laugh...

And u said ics has less options in settings! Are u blind? Ics has more options in settings than GB.its just organised and categorized ..

U criticising the Holo UI !! Go live in a cave if u think Holo UI is not gr8...go buy an iphone...
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
ICS stock vs GB stock has about 3-4 extra options, but loses 3 options.

However CM7.2 vs CM9, CM7.2 has over 30 extra configurable options.

You guys ignored the list I said of all missing features, instead just went on a anti GB rave.

There is more.

I noticed now as well Trebuchet launcher is pretty bad, cant even add shortcuts to it, it does seem CM went backwards a lot from 7.2 to 9.

Now CM10 may be better than CM9, but isnt stable on this phone.

right now I am seeing if I can find replaceables.

Nova launcher works ok but the dock I have to press on hard and repeated times for it to work, googled the problem, others said same complaint but no fix. I tried adw launcher which works great in cm7.2, but is slower on cm9 on a s2 than it is on cm7.2 with an ace, whats that about?

I installed siyah kernel and extweaks, very nice kernel and that got me BLN. A proper working BLN (buggy on CM 7.2 on the ace).

I downloaded a new dialler (exdialer), its big improvement over cm9 dialer but not as good as cm7.2 dialer, how sweet it would be if I could find cm7.2 dialer to install on cm9/10.

Camera in cm9 much better than 7.2. But it has very loud sounds for focus and snap that cant turn off, they sound aweful as well very annoying.

I still have haptic feedback that cant be turned off either, eg. when using keyboard.

and finally the keyboard in cm9 is worse than 7.2, on 7.2 press shift twice for caps lock, on cm9 have to hold it down for caps lock :(

So you guys praising JB (and I assume cm10.1) the question is does it fix the problems I have listed, remember one key phrase, newer does not necessarily = better.
[Galaxy S II General] kt-Froggy:
Which phone is "this"? The one in your signature? Then you are in the wrong forum to begin with... :)
[Galaxy S II General] Taranis:
Latest CM10.1 version has MANY additional features. If you see any lack, go to the github and make some commits!
[Galaxy S II General] jl10101:
I think whatever floats your boat, it's nice to get a view on older, more mature versions in comparison. It's like the old XP, vista, 7, 8 debate. Whatever works for you. :)
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
How about assuming its the S2 because its the S2 section of the site. But phone isnt relevant anyway as I am talking about the software not the hardware. Unless CM9 is a different software on different phones.

Is it that hard to comment on what I am saying in my post instead of just attacking and mocking me? maybe I make valid points but you dont to upset any devs, I dont know, tell me.

For clarity I will repeat.

the galaxy s2 i9100 (not G variant).

the only stable builds of CM for this phone are CM7.2 and CM9.

cm7.2 has dozens of configurations that are removed in cm9.

I noted any reviews i read of cm9 (presumably not wanting to upset developers) have considered removed features as non important and not worth worrying about, however I used many of the configurations removed in cm9 such as the ability to disable haptic feedback, ability to remove pictures of contacts, ability to list only contacts with numbers and the dialer in cm9 is pretty bad compared to whats in cm7.2.

The phone I use for calls etc. is whats in my sig, I am merely experimenting with this now as I dont just switch to a phone where I dont like the interface, I spent weeks if not months getting my ace experience to something useable. It seems it will be the same with the s2/s3 (I wont be using this s2 either but using it to test cm9/10 whilst waiting for s3 to arrive and then may not even keep the s3 and switch to nexus or something for stable cm10 build).

I will test cm10 also, but I have had people tell me already it takes more from cm9 than it does cm7.2.

So is it possible to simply comment on what I put in my first 2 posts in this thread, the functions removed in cm9 and if its possible to get them put back in cm9/10 via downloadable apps.
[Galaxy S II General] mckeowngoo:
I also prefer CM7 but I think it's more of a nostalgia thing when I owned my Nexus One. Plus I love that CM colour themed Nexus live wallpaper.

Hey, whatever floats your boat.
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
Ok I am now trying a AOSP JB rom from here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1810042

So I see now that the dialer/contact/launcher changes I dont like are from ICS/JB itself which CM simply kept in their rom.

I do agree some will prefer JB/ICS everyone has their own taste, i didnt mean to offend anyone but was more hoping someone had a way to use CM7.2 dialer in CM9/10. Or CM7.2 dialer in any other rom.

again I am not too happy tho with the rom, it seems there is regressions on every android update google do.

they seem very pro cloud and anti privacy.

So on ICS and GB can disable auto sync globally on the phone, completely turn it off, GB also can stop any apps doing background activity globally (removed in ICS). I see on JB the option to turn sync on/off appears to be missing, I added my gmail account and it immediatly started syncing before I could disable individually the sync things on that account. So now I have a load of junk downloaded to the phone.

I also seen video clips showing super power widgets on JB (videos trying to show of how good JB is), but this has none at all.

It seems ICS/JB just arent for me I guess, the new features they bring dont seem to interest me, however I did want to upgrade the OS because of ICS/JB only apps (future proofing) and some hardware features require 4.x to work?

Looking through the phone settings, the only options I see that are not configurable on stock GB are a few extra for the keyboard input and voice input. Otherwise the only changes are actually removed options, it seems every progression of android is to simplify it.

My S3 is here now, if I am to use GB I will have to use a different phone unless the S3 maybe has a GB rom for it. This S2 is too damaged around the edges for my everyday phone (got of ebay).
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
if u really want something stable try TW 4.1.2 :good:

it has a lot of GS3 features and its fast + smooth as butter :cool:

try it one time and u will not look back :D
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
yeah still playing with firmwares :)

Now got PA 3.1.5 on (4.2.2) which I think is either based on CM 10.1 or has elements of CM in it as they credit CM in their post.

JB 4.1.1 AOSP was slow on this phone, I noticed it just by seeing backup restores been slower, apps slower to load etc. and when I did a quadrant benchmark and compared to the ICS scores they were about half, tons of loss on i/o speed in particular. 2d alo had a chunk of a hit, the score was so low compared to ICS and CM9 it was almost as low as my ace gets although the feeling was quite as slow as the ace, still much faster. (scores back up on this 4.2.2 based rom).

So I found now in the data usage options the ability to disable auto sync. I also found how to add settings shortcuts using trebuchat, I prefer the way in ADW launcher but at least its now gone from not been possible to just a slow way,

Played with the JB notification bar widgets, whilst better than what could do in ICS I find it clunky to use, they too spaced out and have to click on a button first to make them appear, plus is too many I dont have use for, but maybe there is a way to disable ones dont need to toggle. The widget configuration in CM 7.2 was perfect for me (to be fair I think was retained in CM9 also) but its gone in this rom.

I still have no progress on replacing the people app for contacts, ideally I still want to use whatever app CM used in CM7.2. also not a fan of the apps and widget been shown together in the ap drawer, to me app drawer should be just apps and nothing else. But thats not a showstopper, the dialer/contacts is the showstopper at the moment.

scores if anyone interested.

quadrant -> ics s2 stock (cm9) [aosp JB 4.1.x] <PA3 4.2.2>

overall 3751 (3459) [2583] <3751>

cpu 5309 (5654) [4689] <5543>

mem 3786 (1834) [1972] <4242>

io 7417 (7406) [3902] <6302>

2d 439 (500) [370] <500>

3d 1806 (1901) [1983] <2167>
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
:D:D

Stock TW 4.1.2 for u ;)
[Galaxy S II General] GalaxyGusta:
But gb is so slow and has a lot of lags JB is fast and has butter scrolling is super smooth compared to GB
[Galaxy S II General] yahyoh:
Quadrant is too crappy benchmark to rely on BTW :eek:

u can try Antutu or geekbench instead :rolleyes:

:good:
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
OK that TW screenshot has my interest :)

camera etc seems stable on this ROM.
[Galaxy S II General] Mcjim113:
Think it has to do with simplifying the OS, we here are power users but most of the options were for me anyway null and void and overkill for an everyday use phone. You will find most if not all your options that you miss in CM7 are not there and probably never will be I'm afraid.

Google themselves want a simplified phone that the everyday Joe can easily use, and the CM team are so busy these days maintaining so many different devices that I think they would prefer a stable, fast, usable phone that wasn't crammed full of options some of which most would never use.

Just my opinion lol.

:)
[Galaxy S II General] chrcol:
I agree those are probably the exact reasons.
[Galaxy S II General] tombassi:
when ever I want to have flashing break , I use cm7.2 + fluxi :good:
[Galaxy S II General] celderic:
Does that jb modem work ok on cm7? I used kl1
[Galaxy S II General] tombassi:
Yes