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[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
well, if this was directed towards me, my moderate usage is playing games, texting all day, at least 30 minutes of youtube, engadget, emails...thats about an 18 hour battery for me :)
[HTC Droid DNA] eakeller:
I owned three different DNA's over the course of about four months, and no matter what I did I couldn't get more than about 12-15hrs max from the battery. I was more than mindful, I ran battery stats until I was blue in the face, I ran multiple ROMs and kernels, bought two wireless chargers, etc. I'm jealous of those who would get 30+ hours on a charge, but it just wasn't possible with the way I use my phone.

Under the same or harsher conditions, I get around 30-48 hours on the Note 2, including up to about 5-6 hours of screen time. Not trying to say the Note is better, just relating experience and one key factor in my handset choice. If I had liked the S4,it would have required an aftermarket battery for sure.

Sent via Note2 with XDA Premium
[HTC Droid DNA] eakeller:
+1. Definitely worth the experience. I feel now I've at least gotten it out of my system. :)

Sent via Note2 with XDA Premium
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Average battery life with newts sense 5 and beast setup default is 22 hours. Each day I do over 3 hours screen time and several calls. It lasts me a full day and that's all that matters to me.
[HTC Droid DNA] Mnorton1228:
Just curious but why do you need more then 13-15 hours of battery life? I understand its convenient if you're ever gone from home for a long time but you couldn't invest in a battery pack or carry a charger with you at all times just in case you are gone for a long time? I'd understand if you were only getting 4-6 hours of battery because that's what I got from my Gnexus. I'm up and at the gym at 6 in the morning and I don't have to charge my DNA until 6-9 pm when I finally make it back to bed with the stock rom (2.06) running 2x battery.

Glad to see people feel like the DNA is still a stellar phone. I was really curious to see if I should have waited to get the S4 or the HTC One if it ever came to Verizon. Now I don't regret getting this phone for free. It was practically stealing because it is such an amazing phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] fr4nk1yn:
Flame on !!! I've been saying the same thing about the S4 and HTC One and have been beat down.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
how the hell is your battery life on newts sense 5 22 hours?? I get like 13 maximum. wtf. and it's like barely 2 hours screen on.

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] blemish31:
I use newts last rom with beastmode kernel with a little oc and I get 20+ hours of battery life with 3+hours of screen use.

enviado desde mi HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
i'm using newts latest sense 5 with beastmode kernel with NO oc, stock default settings, and i get barely 14 hours with like 2 hours screen on.

what the fart.
[HTC Droid DNA] trebb:
They might also be on wifi in areas with great signal coverage. I highly doubt they're getting these insane numbers on 4G.

I get about what you get.

I can see people enjoying the S4 less than the DNA, but there's no way the DNA beats the One. Not in any universe.
[HTC Droid DNA] deathrow1992:
If you're only getting 2 hours of screen time..... you're doing it wrong.
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
13 hrs of work yesterday and I had 65% left when I got home. No wifi, all 3g or 4g. Plugged in before bed with 50% after 18 hrs unplugged. Probably only 2hrs screen on, but still.

Running Newts latest with beastmode kernel as well with no oc.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
lol let's hear your "expert" opinion then.

i've been with android since 2010, and i consider myself a power user. i text multiple times a day, always use 4G etc. i have everything syncing at all times.

i used to get 14-15 hours, and 3 hours screen on for the DNA until around Google I/O when they updated something. the play store got EXTREMELY slow and it would take 20 minutes to download a 15mb app, and my battery went to garbage.
[HTC Droid DNA] deathrow1992:
Kidding :D

I honestly wouldn't know because I'm on stock and I can get 2 days+ with light use and my phone can last almost the whole day with heavy. I'm on stock though.

Maybe try and reinstall the ROM you have? Could be something with the download that is giving you trouble.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
I hit 16hrs. 4hrs screen on :) and at 40%

I'm on stock as well.
[HTC Droid DNA] beyondinferno:
This is why I'm hesitant to try roms once s-off is released. Everything is snappy, everything works great and I've been getting through the day (~16 hours or more) without dropping below 40% while actually using the phone. Standby time is just ridiculous too (less than 1% per hour).

It's pretty much the opposite of my gnex.

PS. I don't EVER use wifi.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
who knows man...i used to get some good battery life, but lately it's just gone down the tubes. my S3 hasn't gotten great battery either, so i really think it's something to do with the google updates...dunno though.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Haha
[HTC Droid DNA] kbowman:
Sounds like I am doing it all wrong. Just came from a gnex and running cm10.1 on the DNA right now and its much better than the gnex but I am not even getting 3hrs of screen on time. Guess I should try the stock rom even though I hate sense.
[HTC Droid DNA] Underground_XI:
Dont be like kindergarden kids. Screen on time matters. What you uploaded is rubbish.
[HTC Droid DNA] cowisland:
Agreed. I think the only stat worth comparing is the stand-by performance. Once you fire it up the screen and, if you are playing games, CPU/GPU on this phone will chew through the battery pretty quickly and there is not much you can do about that (besides underclocking, dimming the screen etc. but that would impact performance).
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
I know that after being charged over night you can expect a sharp drop when you first start using it in the morning, but i swear my dna used to never drop like my Rezound did lol... 10 minutes with 10 min screen on time, lowest brightness and just checking instagram, facebook, android sites in bed in the morning and I've got a 5 percent drop down to 95. that's standard, right?

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
I already said my screen time was about 5 hours :P

People are acting like its a world record to hit over 12 hrs. Just posted it to show that u can manage that. I don't really game but I watch 30 minutes you tube videos, text, calls, Pandora, etc. So its possible. The only thing I refuse to put on my phone is social networking apps.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
right now, 3 hours 16 minutes, 1 hour 22 minutes of screen on time.......54%.

yeah, that's horrible lol
[HTC Droid DNA] Mnorton1228:
Thats probably pretty close to correct though. Look at all the other posts most people are saying that they are getting 3 hours of screen time and 16 hours of total battery life.

You're at 54% and 1 hour 22 min of screen time. So if you round up/down to 50% and 1 hour and 30 min of screen time you're right on par for what they say they get. It's just that their screen time is spread out over 16 hours instead of condensed into the 3 hours you have listed.

I'd check out what goes on while you're idle with your phone. I know yesterday morning I used my battery to check similar website for about 30 minutes and I had my screen at about 50% and dropped down to 89% before heading to work. Ended up getting 16 hours out of my phone. I'll be glad when I can flash some custom kernels. Should be interesting then.
[HTC Droid DNA] Underground_XI:
You guys can use greenify. Great app makes sure no apps run in the background when screen is off.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
true. it's just been really bad lately. i used to be able to pull like 15 hours with like 1.5-2 hours screen on time over the course of the day, but i can't do that lately.
[HTC Droid DNA] Mnorton1228:
Used it on my GNex but couldn't tell much a difference. I'm chalking that up to the GNex just being awful anyways lol. Will definitely give it a try once I get this thing rooted and all :D
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Oh, I guess I should mention i have been rocking batteryguru from Qualcomm :P
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
Have several co-workers with both the S4 and the Htc ONE. During a weeklong meeting, we got to play with each others' phone quite a bit. EVERYONE came out wanting the DNA. The consensus was that the HTC one's 4.7" screen just seemed smaller than that, especially compared to the DNA/S4/Note 2. The S4 looked and felt exactly like the S3's. Unless you were looking for it, you wouldn't even know it was an S4 or an S3. The DNA just stood out. In the end, they all were nearly the same size and speed. All with quad cores and 2gb RAM. What it came down to was that if you needed expandable storage OR more battery, get the S4 if you can't pocket the Note2.

For all of us here at work, battery life is not an issue since we can plug it in while we work all day. Now i'm starting to play ingress alot which is a battery killer but most players i've met carry battery chargers, even those with S4's. They find it easier than changing battery packs and having to power down the game to replace batteries.
[HTC Droid DNA] cojoda:
I was with a few of my friends the other day and when I got over there they were all starring at on guys new phone. Of course it was the S4.

I have to say that I was not that impressed. All those gimmicky software features just bog the whole thing down. And maybe I'm a little spoiled with my DNAs screen, but the S4s screen really left something to be desired.

Now I didn't tell him any of this and let him be happy in his ignorance. But I really wanted to...
[HTC Droid DNA] SinC26:
...calling your friend "ignorant" for preferring the S4 over the DNA seems really over the top to me. Both phones have their own advantages, though you'll obviously hear more about the DNA's advantages in the DNA forum.
[HTC Droid DNA] jcart665:
Without the cool Samsung features the s4 is nothing special the DNA is just an all around good phone
[HTC Droid DNA] keith843:
My battery last around 3-4 hours. I work a boring 13 hour shift where I just sit there, so whataya expect:)
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
yeah, i pushed my phone alot today. i dont think it saw very much screen off time. lasted me from 100% - 20% with 7hrs screen on. no games.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
7 hours screen on???? my god.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
I'm telling you guys!! Batteryguru app from the Play Store helps out alot. lol

p.s.

i was at work and had wifi the entire time
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
id use wifi but i love seeing how much 4g i eat a month lol. also, my router seems to be a jerk lately. my phone constantly connects and disconnects for no reason. says I have a 4 bar signal and it's strong, but it just randomly disconnects then 3 seconds later connects. I'm thinking maybe it's an issue with the password encryption because it's only my phones.. my ps3 is fine and I never lag out when playing online or anything. it's really weird.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dave12308:
I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way. I got this phone randomly because of the free offer, but did a bit of research and people were calling it "the best phone on Verizon". So I jumped from the gnex. Was told I would hate Sense, but I beg to differ. Some of it is pretty cool, especially on a device capable of running it well.

Love my DNA. I'll s-off it, but doubt i'll do much with that for now.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
A lot of the newer phones only play nice with wpa2. Found that out when a customer was the only one having issues connecting at home. Turns out his phone only liked wpa2. Do he changed it from wep to wpa2 and all went well. No issues since.
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
meh, my wifi is WPA2 lol..
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Maybe baby Jesus hates u?
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
most likely :( lol
[HTC Droid DNA] vince47:
I happened to come across your topic and I remembered reading an issue Google location services was having with HTC devices. (it drains the battery) Here's a couple links:

https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/?hl=en#!topic/mobile/LEPcl9e3dYE[1-25-false]

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ssues-for-htc-owners-google-working-on-a-fix/
[HTC Droid DNA] rsims26:
I was having the same issue and read that if you change the wifi frequency band, under advanced settings, from Auto to 2.4 ghz only that it would solve the problem. I was skeptical but gave it a shot and haven't had the issue since. However, it has only been a day so not enough time yet to verify it is a good fix or just coincidence.
[HTC Droid DNA] keith843:
My router does that too, I have a netgear dual router. Idk if that's the reason or not tho
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
lol here's my battery life today.. i went back to viper sense 4+...meh.
[HTC Droid DNA] deathrow1992:
Stock, medium/heavy ish usage plus I forgot to charge last night.
[HTC Droid DNA] juanzr1:
Battery guru works
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
my battery is rockin again, and standby time isn't draining....

i went back to my nandroid of viper on sense 4+, and i shut GPS off, and disabled google now, and yeah, bam. doing awesome again. so i think it's google play services and that whole HTC issue going on...
[HTC Droid DNA] Jaggar345:
Mine was doing that when I had the encryption set to wpa and then I changed it to wep and it now just stays connected :D
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Google Now is a HUGE battery drain, I don't know if it got huger lately but it's always been a beast. If I'm testing a kernel and get weird drain, the first thing I do is check the app drawer to see if I forgot to debloat, or missed google now when doing a delete rampage on my system apk's

BTW a lot of screenshots of total discharge time have been posted without screen on time. It's pretty much useless, because if my phone lasts 6 hours with 5 hours of screen time, the battery life is better than 19 hours with 1 hour of screen time. But if total duration is the only thing posted, it can't be evaluated.

Like my ipads, they last weeks on the shelf. A lot of weeks. But they have about a 12 hour screen on battery time. If someone says they get 24 hours with 16 hours screen on, and I say "My battery lasts three weeks" its equivalent to "My weiner is bigger than yours." argued with "I win cuz ice cream aint got no bones and you're talking hot dogs, duh."
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
google now used to never drain it, though. the problme here is that by turning off google now and GPS, i'm getting what i used to get with both of them ON. so something is up here lol
[HTC Droid DNA] jayochs:
woot! not bad.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
not bad for not being on wifi for the entire time :D
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Hangouts is kind of resource heavy. I do think it was a good move because it eliminated many reasons users use third party apps. But looking at the battery stats, for gtalk power users I think there is some room for improvement. Just thought I'd mention that since you mentioned the update at I/O.
[HTC Droid DNA] greekmanx:
Well I will speak as someone who has the DNA and S4 I like both for certain reasons.

The S4 I love some of the Touchwiz enhancements like multi-window and smart stay for me works pretty well and I like the notification bar once the wifi notice is removed that is. and to me and I know it is not as accurate but I like the screen on the S4 better myself.

Now for the DNA build quality all the way and I like Sense more then Touchwiz. Also Camera for works better on DNA for the way I use it.

As for cons too little memory on both internally 9GB on S4 and 12GB on DNA mind you S4 has removable memory but that has slower read times makes gallery lag and can't easily install apps to SD. Almost forgot I like samsungs home button being physical so I can turn it on without reaching to the top or side of phone. Also the DNA having regular MHL and not some proprietory crap like the S4.

That's just my take on it and just so you get a better idea I work for Verizon and use both phones daily and regularly.

Also as for battery S4 lasts longer for me and it is stock and DNA is unlocked rooted running Viper DNA 1.31
[HTC Droid DNA] Gorilla*:
Having the custom rom could affect battery life

HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
I had the s4 and the DNA. Stock for stock my DNA used less battery then the s4. Just my experience though.
[HTC Droid DNA] takota6:
My daughter just received the s4 ,most all of its software I've been using some time on my s3(synergy) I need some root though,she keeps throwing her quadrant scores in my face

:D
[HTC Droid DNA] croppz:
Its too bad that quandrant scores don't mean crap when it comes to real life everyday use.
[HTC Droid DNA] takota6:
Really? C'Mon man I've been on xda since2010 ..give me something enlightened if your going to try to teach

Æaaa..\:/
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
So true. So true...
[HTC Droid DNA] Stickboy46:
Agreed. Stock s4 feels slower in day to day use. Too much going on in the background.
[HTC Droid DNA] cojoda:
Case in point, CM 10.1 on my DNA feels so much faster than stock, yet it's stock that gets the higher quadrant scores.

Sent from my HTC Droid DNA running CyanogenMod 10.1
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Got one just now.
[HTC Droid DNA] Codiusprime:
You seem pretty obsessed with useless metrics.

The lady got one and it's a very nice phone. Wouldn't say it feels any faster or slower, probably about the same. Has some nice features though I'd never use 95% of them. The screen is very nice, I'm a fan of Samsung's screen though I don't necessarily like it better than the LCD3. It seems like it's gonna be a great phone, different experience than the DNA but that's what Android is all about. I don't feel the need to run out and get one for myself though.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm not impressed by the screen. The amount of preloaded and running apps on this phone is insane, no wonder most of the internal storage is used up. I need to get home and root this sucker.
[HTC Droid DNA] hkbladelawhk:
After seeing all this. I kinda wanna buy the S4, unlock it, pop on a different rom/kernel, and see how I can do. Then again, that's a lot of money to shed.
[HTC Droid DNA] Codiusprime:
If you're not a fan of overly contrasty screens this one definitely won't change your mind. I would root n rom it immediately but she hasn't felt the need to root n rom since we had Droids.

Definitely wouldn't give up my CM DNA for it.
[HTC Droid DNA] hkbladelawhk:
Hmm, Do we think a custom rom would make it better than a custom DNA? Of course it's opinion, but so far I haven't seen anyone rate an S-OFF DNA to an Unlocked S4.
[HTC Droid DNA] Codiusprime:
I think an S4 and a DNA both running CM would probably have almost imperceptible differences in performance. At this point I think it would come down to preference. SAMOLED or LCD3? Soft touch or glossy plastic? Removable battery/expandable storage or not? Yea the camera on the S4 would be better but the DNA camera is nothing to sneeze at.
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Yea I'll agree the camera on the s4 is better but the ones camera does it for me above all. Still hoping lol.
[HTC Droid DNA] another581:
I'm still able to do all the same things that I do on DNA with my Samsung Fascinate running CM...harwares are clearly different but whether if it's Galaxy IV, DNA or else, phone is a phone and they all perform equally great for necessary tasks that they were designed to do. That being said, I think it's just the matter of design and brand preferences (And also battery life), since Android users here are most certainly going to run custom roms such as CM or AOKP that gives the same experience on every devices they support.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I've forgotten about my DNA.
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
As you post in the DNA forums :p

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
From my DNA :p
[HTC Droid DNA] pio_masaki:
Forgot what you were typing on? May want to get checked out :eek:

Tapatalked from my HTC DNA - ReVolt
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
The S4 is for my wife. She had the gall to ask if she could have my dna and i take the S4.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
She must have some big galls
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
She has my balls in an iron grip too :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] JustMyUserName:
I have only used the s4 in the store, so I don't have extended experience with the device. However, it felt faster to me than my DNA does. Also I felt the screen was every bit as good. Granted I am running the DNA completely stock.
[HTC Droid DNA] hkbladelawhk:
Picked up an s4. $550. Just rooted. Transferring hyperdrive as we speak. It was a pain in the ass. Samsung has annoying connection issues. And the battery door feels less durable than a saltine cracker. But other than that. Not bad. DNA is definitely better built though.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
I'm still downloading that rom, and I thought Sense roms were big :eek:
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
That is in no way true... CM runs much much better on my DNA than my old fascinate or thunderbolt or Bionic... Need I go on. Also includes S3. Better hardware equates to better results.
[HTC Droid DNA] morpheousrx:
I had a rezound...it was the most rediculous phone ever...id have to change batteries in about 6 hrs....and my nuts were always sweating....phone was horrible...have an s4 and dna now....both are great phones though the raw processing power of s4 is incredible....
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
I didn't think the rezound was that bad... I had pretty decent battery life when compared to my gnex. It got hot for sure that is the truth. Also screen was a bit small for me. The only horrible phone I've owned in my opinion was the fascinate. Absolute terrible.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Not always. Depending what type of performance the system demands, it wouldn't even need a quad-core processor. Stock android runs just as well on a dual-core. Difference is the rest of the hardware (eg: 1080 vs 720)

Its not always that it works so much better on high end phones. Just that the higher end phones keep getting more efficient at using the OS and not to mention the screens keep getting prettier and prettier, so of course when u do something on a DNA vs a fascinate, it looks A LOT better but doesnt mean anything. Number crunches aren't a concern for the average consumer or else it would have been used for marketting from the get go.

This is all just my opinion though. Carry on :P
[HTC Droid DNA] cstrife999:
Higher end hardware handles complex calculations for efficiently. It runs better on the DNA than on a fascinate I can tell you that much.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
In not saying they handle the same information just as quick, but the previous person stated that for every day tasks and to a person not really aware of what's under the screen, it can run just as smooth.
[HTC Droid DNA] hkbladelawhk:
Yea. A friggin gig. What the?!
[HTC Droid DNA] Infinite Jest:
I've noticed that a lot of games have a bit of jank/judder that doesn't seem to be related to frame rate (notably not present in my iPad 3 or when I owned a 4s, even with frame rate drops). Is this present in the GS4 (i.e. Is this a general issue with android) or is this DNA specific? I noticed this when I owned the GS3 as well in addition to lower frame rates in many games vs the DNA (of course, GTA games suck on both, but I'm talking about graphically less intense games).
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Also, for people talking about performance. I wanted to post an article so its understood that a higher end phone doesn't always mean better (eg: Droid Bionic/Samsung Charge)

Its not too old but I would recommend a read if u were interested in understanding smartphones and how internals doesn't always make the phone.

http://m.cnet.com/news/7-myths-about-quad-core-phones-smartphones-unlocked/57410518
[HTC Droid DNA] rmind01:
Guy complaining about rezound. Try the thunderbolt that was horrible!!
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
it was only bad if u didnt know how to turn off 4g :P