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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
I almost bought the gs4 (full price to keep unlimited data) at best buy today. I wonder how long we'll have to wait for developer edition for vzw? Where we would buy it? How much would it cost? Who would handle warranty and insurance?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
Still no 32 for VZW. There might be 1gb more storage with this version, but likely no Verizon support since a dev version. I would rather root a stock VZW version and have warranty support with a 32 model.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] craigbailey1986:
It should still have the same warranty as it is still a Verizon phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
My understanding is there is no warranty for unlocked phones. This has changed?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kingramon0:
My job pays for my phones, otherwise I would jump at something like this. I hate all the crap Verizon forces on every phone we buy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] geoff5093:
Last I heard if you buy the dev edition and unlock it, you void the warranty. I also seem to recall that you can't go to a Verizon store for warranty work, it has to go directly to Samsung.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Caketwo:
Will having a developer edition help us with the "normal" verision? Like, for instance, will it make it easier to understand how to unlock the normal edition, etc?

Should we all just return our devices and wait for the dev edition?...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
I also wonder if the developer model will come free of vzw bloat? If so I might not even need to unlock it... at least not right away. Unfortunately it prolly will come with samsung stuff I hate like talk back?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
The bootloader on the dev edition ships unlocked, that is why they call it a developer edition. With no Verizon bloatware.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
What about samsung launcher and apps?

No way to purchase accident insurance?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BennyJr:
Yes it runs touchwiz still, and you can insure the phone through verizon too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
But we will have to purchase the phone directly from Samsung? Do they have repair facilities for warranty work in USA?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BennyJr:
Yes and Yes. remember verizon's insurance is through asurion. I heard squaretrade was a good alternative
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
The only is if you have any software issues you would have to go thru Samsung, since Verizon has not inserted any of their special "lock down, and bloat" sauce into the phone. Any physical damage, you will need to go thru any of the insurance vendors you sign up with.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Will it cost a lot more?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
Most likely $650 retail, you are buying an unlocked phone directly from the manufacturer, not from Verizon on a subsidized price.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Thanks, that's what I would pay to vzw anyway to keep unlimited data. Where is samsung repair facility in usa?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cybertec69:
They are located in New Jersey I believe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] crdnilfan:
With the bootloader unlocked on the Verizon non-dev edition, will be there any real benefit to the dev phone as far as kernels/ROMs go? I assume besides the bootloader state and maybe some bloat they're the exact same? So a ROM for one would work just fine on the other?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gcarterny:
My brother works for Verizon and they havent got any info on it yet. So probably still a ways out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] HowardZ:
I think the developer edition will have more than 16 GB
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Adrozz07:
I'm curious about this as well. I know when I had the note 2, you could use tmo, AT&T and Sprint roms, they just required a patch to work on the network. With the dev edition of the gs4 having functionality for all carrier bands will this be an issue requiring special ports of roms for the phone or will any Rom from any carrier edition be flash-ready as is?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Bait-Fish:
The specs list internal 16 GB ROM. I am holding out for a 32GB, but hope they don't get locked down before then :sly:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] android-incredible:
im going to buy one today but im not sure if it is better wait for the developer edition.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
No worries about the radio and overheating problems Ive read about?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Lw00d:
i would like to know this too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
anyone have any more info on this... it seems like if you want to keep your Vzw unlimited data... this would be the way to go
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mrhumble1:
Just having the bootloader unlocked is a huge comfort to me. I don't want to wait who knows how long for the dev community to come up with a reliable unlock utility. If it's already unlocked, then there are already tools available to flash TWRP and get to a custom recovery. Then it's off to the ROM races. I am sure we will see great ROMs far sooner than an unlock method.

Sure I hope am wrong and the dev community cracks this phone with the quickness, but if I get the Dev version then I won't have to worry about it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
You can already have custom recovery, roms and kernels. Developers just have to follow a process of some sort to make it work properly.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] larry_thagr81:
Not true because people with developer edition phones have the ability to mod their phone in ways that Verizon doesn't want you too and more easily mess something up. Verizon will probably have you sign a contract for the phone itself stating that you agree to waive your Verizon support and warranty rights.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gcarterny:
Anybody hearing any rumors yet?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mercutio5:
I was thinking of waiting for the Dev Version, but after seeing how easy it is to root and put TWRP on the stock Verizon GS4, there is no reason to wait.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Once you install recovery must you use odin to get to it and flash roms ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] FunYun:
No, simply reboot to recovery and flash away.

Odin is what you need to root your phone, after that I used Rom Manager to install TWRP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Again, probably the only reason is if you currently have unlimited data and want to keep it: cost savings over a subsidized plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
Im hearing no more news of this

not even a release date or anything

any new info?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] equake:
Bump
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] NiteQwill:
abRelMC III.

I'm still on the fence regarding upgrading to the current or waiting for the dev S4.

I just don't want to be stuck with a locked bootloader, currently.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Smokuevo:
I don't think Verizon would recieve this
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
Doesn't it seem odd that they announce it and then nothing? Nothing from Verizon themselves or anything? When they said it would be released soon, does that mean in the next month or the next 6 months? I'm wondering because I'm up in about 2 or 3 weeks for an upgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
We are all in the same boat... whoever is waiting for this is waiting on some sort of news.

I personally plan to get the phone out of contract one way or another. Although if I am shelling out the money I would rather have one with an unlocked bootloader from the start.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] neko66:
cool
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tROubLemE:
I heard that the exynos version is gonna stop manufacturing
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Diversion:
Source?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
I would prefer the google version but I would certainly prefer the developer version to the regular. The only thing is I DO want some kind of warranty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mercutio5:
Verizon allows the dev version of the SGS3. It'll show up, there's no news or announcements because it's not something which sells a lot of units and it'll be sold directly by Samsung.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
Should I just give my local Verizon place a call or would that literally do nothing on when it is coming out?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
would do nothing, they have no idea

this is direct from Samsung... better off contacting Samsung
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] NiteQwill:
Decided to just get the non-dev version yesterday. Already rooted and I'm happy with it. Figured I'd that time comes I can just sell it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
Yeah who knows when this is coming out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TechSavvy2:
I contemplated waiting for it...............until I remembered that last year I had started waiting for the Dev edition of the S3.....that never came out for .....I don't even know when, I think it was like 6 months later. I'll just buy S4 now, then sell it full price on ebay for 550 when dev edition comes out and pay extra hundred bucks then. Then I'm not just waiting for god knows how long :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
Maybe the S4 full retail price will drop when the HTC one comes out

I know they are dropping the Galaxy note 2 price any day now
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Are you sure? I have never seen the retail price of any smart phone drop at vzw.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Sounds more bogus by the day
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
Still can't believe there is no more new info on the phone. No price, no availability, nothing. Give us something...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
So it got announced about a month ago and still no new news on it? No release date or anything...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Ok guys and gals: I have been watching the official Samsung site for this. It has been listed since the media announcement last month, but just this week it changed from "Coming Soon" to that reference being deleted. It now appears w/o "Coming Soon" and w/o a price...methinks they are readying it for release or is soon available at VZW??!

Samsung Verizon Developer Edition
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Cool! I'd prefer google edition but this will do!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
True, but I would like TouchWiz as well, that way you can have the best of both worlds. Just back up TouchWiz when rooted with a custom recovery, and flash to your heart's delight! That is what I plan on doing!.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
I wouldn't need to root ge so I could keep warranty. No interest at all in touchwiz on my part.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Understoond...but the Google Edition won't bet available on VZW. :) This is an option for those of us on VZW..and we can retain unlimited data. True, one can just buy the regular version at full price like the dev edtion, but ....just not as fun or easy. :) I have been rooting my phones since the OG Droid, including my current Bionic, so the warranty issue hasn't been an "issue" for me. " :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Oh, I agree it is our best choice at the moment. A 32 gb model or a vzw version of htc one would also be interesting. Since I pay full price to keep unlimited data warranty is now an issue for me. I rooted my tbolt but only paid a couple hundred bucks for it. I have not rooted my razr maxx hd because I'm not convinced any existing roms are good enough to void my warranty. If gs4 has all the lag I read about I will have to root it and I'm hoping stock ge rom becomes available for it. I would think that would wipe out any lag. Phones are my hobby so I don't mind spending more than most people would but the thought of bricking a $700 phone or having the power button fall off after I root it still gives me the heebie jeebies

They won't sell the dev ed in stores right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] trvrlol:
Should be shipping Wednesday!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
developer edition and nexus edition are 2 different phones
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...y-s4-developer-edition-now-available-for-649/

It is apparently on sale now, but I don't see the ability to add it to my cart or even see the price on the main site.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I545ZKDVZW
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] chamberc:
*sigh* still only 16 GB, meaning no viable S4 on verizon yet...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
I don't mind so much. But I'm still going to buy it mainly because it's available, I can keep my unlimited data, it will allow me to go month to month and also it's unlocked, so I can do whatever to it (basically) without having to do ROMs and rooting and so on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cp06:
S4 Dev Edition

So would the only difference between this phone and the Verizon be that the boot loader is unlocked?

I mean as far as flashing boot loader, radios, roms?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] equake:
Heres a noob question about the dev version. How are these updated? via OTA? Is there a special tool to lock and unlock the bootloader specific to the device?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
I believe you would still rely on the VZW OTA if you remain on the TouchWiz features w/o changes. Someone correct me if I am wrong.

I plan on installing a custom recovery, backing up the original OS and then ROM to my heart's delight. When an OTA arrives, just flash back to the backed up recovery of the original OS out of the box config.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
So apparently you need to input company dev info to even get one from Samsung... what? For some reason, I felt like I got hyped up, and completely missed the point...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Once you install a custom recovery you can't accept an ota without causing problems right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SolidSnakeUS:
From how Samsung puts in their acceptance thing when you buy the phone, it says it has only a 30 day warranty.... what?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Correct: you would have to flash back to the original factory default , hence, the custom recovery backup.

---------- Post added at 03:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:53 PM ----------

Anyone else trying to order from Samsung site? Server keeps timing out; must be getting hit hard! Am afraid to wait till later.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
But that is just a nandroid so original factory recovery won't be saved right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidrev71:
I ordered one today. Hopefully there is plenty of support for it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] equake:
Already on back order. Wonder how many they had in stock to begin.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
I was going to wait for this but I have been running a Verizon s4 rooted and rommed for 4 weeks now without any issues. There's so much support for this phone that a developer edition does nothing for me anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidrev71:
Yah, and your point? I have an s4 now too. Glad to know you think the phone does nothing for you. It's not even been released yet so you haven't a clue yet. It must be on backorder for a reason.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Understand your point. This is my first time buying a phone outright, let alone a dev edition. Would have cost the same if I bought the regular retail one, but since this one is unlocked, might as well go for it: just a few less steps and hoops to perform to root, ROM, etc. Makes it a bit easier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
Same. Why pay $650 for something when you could pay $160 instead for the same thing. I know it's more "official" but if you're not trying to keep Unlimited Data, I would get a regular ol' 'ess foe'
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Will this ever be sold in stores? Is it true you must give a company name to get one? Does it come with a simm card? Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] waleed300:
protection/insurance/warranty

I would buy it from Best Buy, as a Mobile employee, our Geek Squad Protection is truly the best accidental/insurance out there. No deductibles and unlimited claims. Only thing it doesn't cover is loss or theft, so as long as you have your phone any condition it's in, you're covered.. Either you can do $9.99 a month or a one time fee $169.99 covers it for 2 years.:highfive:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
When are you getting the developer edition?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hotleadsingerguy:
So the HTC One and Galaxy S 4 Google Editions are out today...and only for AT&T and T-Mobile, according to Google. Outside of Phandroid speculating that it would be out for Verizon, does anyone else have a reason why they thought it was going to be?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
I thought the Dev Edition was only being sold directly from Samsung?

Mine shipped out today from Samsung.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] waleed300:
reply:

[QUOsuecDNA;42977774]When are you getting the developer edition?

Not sure if we're gong to get it in stores, most likely it'll be online only but you can go into the store and get the protection plan on it..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Not sure if we're gong to get it in stores, most likely it'll be online only but you can go into the store and get the protection plan on it..[/QUOTE]

Is that warranty good if phone is unlocked witb custom recovery and rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] waleed300:
reply:

Is that warranty good if phone is unlocked witb custom recovery and rom?

Yeah, honestly most associates don't even know what that is.. out of my department only a couple of us are knowledgable about moding, rooting, and custom firmware/roms etc haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gt5oh:
My point is that waiting for this developer phone with the intention that support wouldnt be as widespread as it is because the current non developer S4 has a locked bootloader is null....

The fact is that it doesnt matter about the bootloader because most of the custom roms and software run fine on non-developer phones.

If you are going to buy a phone outright and have alot of patience and arent looking for bleeding edge upgrades then by all means this is a great buy.

If you waited specifically for this, as i was originally, then my point is that it doesnt matter, its not that much different.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] markwebb:
Buying unlocked makes it easier for the user and one doesn't have to jump through many fixes to get that specific ROM or function. Makes better sense than to buy the retail version at the same price. Honestly, I have been Rom'ing and rooting since the OG Droid days and having less steps to accomplish what I want is far more worthwhile and less costly time wise. I don't want to count the hours I spent the last 3-4 years downloading this file, patching this, fixing that, etc.

Moreover, who says I can't have "bleeding edge" upgrades with an unlocked device? I would think the chances are greater I could have and quite easily. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] recDNA:
Does this still come with all the vzw bloatware?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Divine_Madcat:
Jump through many fixes? I am sure i could be missing something, but this phone was easier to root and flash than my Rezound. On my R, i had to time it perfectly, then jumper two electrical connections and hope that it worked, in order to get S-Off.

While the s4 may still be "locked", given that we can do everything we can with an unlocked phone (least everything i can think of.. rom, kernel..), i dont see alot of point fussing over it..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 00negative:
Yes
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Guest:
The following is posted on source o2 site:

Xda II ROM upgrades

The latest and final Xda II System Software is available for you to download in 2 different ROMs.

New and changed in these versions of software:

Incorporates end user update 2 from Microsoft

Improved power management with the Bluetooth Manager

O2 Active

Improvements to listening to music or video when streaming via GPRS

v1.72.187 software does not have Blackberry software built in.

Please click here to download software v1.72.187 along with the upgrade instructions

v1.72.181 software upgrade, now available features Blackberry.

Please click here to download software v1.72.181 along with the upgrade instructions

Does anybody have an account to download these updates??
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] reyser:
Upgrade to XDA2

I have been waiting for this for ages but can't get access to the software, bought XDA2 on E-bay, O2 registration process failed, any ideas how I can get the ROM update?

Reyser
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dtktvu:
XDA II 1.72.187 download URL

Download it here...

http://64.244.24.19/xda/Xda_II_172187_Final.exe

Enjoy!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] b11gy:
Hi,

Is this a UK ROM Version of the XDA II ?

Thanks

Amjid

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RAMADHAN MUBARAK :!:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dtktvu:
I had no idea but I guess it is as it comes from SourceO2...

It's the same link to download 1.72.181

http://www.sourceo2.com/O2_Developers/Devices/O2_Xda_II/Xda_update.htm

You will find the link to download 1.72.181...

http://64.244.24.19/xda/Xda_II_172181_Final.exe
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Nighthawk:
Do you pick only one of the two, off to read PDF's.

Here are the answers from the PDF's...

181 will disconnect any connection when phone rings, except the Blackberry, Mobile Web and WAP connections. If you need to use a permanent GPRS connection that will remain connected when phone is used, you should use 187 version.

Also, there are additional apps available for download as well (same page).

1. KSE Truefax

2. Fonix Voice Dial

3. ZIP Manager
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] beecher:
This is the GERman update, AFAIK...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] beecher:
Could anybody provide the username and password for www.SourceO2.com website for downloading this updates, please? Thank you.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mikeycollins13:
Country Error? I had prviously the XDA-Devel. 1.72 installed

Any ideas how to fix this butg? OUch, just upgraded last week to the xda-develpers 1.72, and now want this new o2 one, ouch!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] beecher:
Should be working normally...

What kind of bug do you mean?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jacro:
You can register a username for free on the O2 site, and get a password mailed to you. You will then be able to download the files.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] beecher:
Ha, cool! Thanks. I thought is dependent on using O2 device (check on IMEI)...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] beecher:
Hm... I'm registred, but my credentials are not working... :oops:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] hshortt:
You can follow the thread http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=63862#63862 to get the upgrade working. mine is at 38% updated and I should be done in about an hour or so.

The extra applications file is attached to this post for simplicity...

Cheers
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dcs:
Re: Country Error? I had prviously the XDA-Devel. 1.72 insta

Check my post

here

. My guess is your previous upgrade set your operator in the device to a non-O2 value.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Software Gurus:
O2 Rom Update

:?

Hi to all

I downloaded the I Mate Rom from this website some time ago, someone had altered it to work on O2, I loaded this and my device works like a charm

My ROM version is 1.72.00WWE

Rom Date is 03/15/04

Radio Version is 1.14

Protocol Version is 1337.24

Ext Rom Version - 1.72.126

Is it worth me upgrading my device with the new ROM, and will I be able to do this without any problems??

Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ianlake:
O2 XDA II ROM updates (v1.72.187,v1.72.181)!!!

is there any chance that some kind soul has a zipped version of these files. the system at work will not allow downloading exes but will at present allow downloading zips

many thanks

ian