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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
Drawing/sketching is an acquired universal skill, just like reading or driving. I've struggled with drawing for the party 20 years. It's a never-ending endeavor. I learn new techniques and styles from every time I see new handmade images I see from books, colleagues, galleries, Internet and students. Each drawing you do, is a lesson. I have disciplined myself that spontaneity and welcoming accidents on paper and learning from mistakes rather than erasing them are the best way is been learning. Each drawing is practice, and the moving visual record and mind process that went along well be collected in your mind.

I still carry my sketchbooks and portable watercolor set. Any self-respecting visual artist should use sketchbooks. I do a lot of drawing from observation. I also do large pieces of 36" by 48" finely penciled and watercolored architectural pieces. I think we should not be slaves on one particular medium. I believe the basics of observing and applying line values, line angle direction, shape, proportions, contrast, composition, shades and shadows will always be there, even if you are going digital.

It's easier coming from traditional mediums to a digital device like the Note 8. But some aren't keen on going digital at all.

I do suggest you do join an art group like Urban Sketchers (we're 4000+ strong worldwide) to be encouraged in doing more sketches through live observation.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rizzwiz:
I figured as much. I still used my sketchbook from time to time, but most of the time it's abstract, and maybe observation drawing is what I really need. I figured I would get used to digital drawing, however as well, because honestly from my Bamboo Capture I've loved it.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
The Note 8 is light and gives ample power for live drawings from observatons. It's good training for building up a visual vocabulary, and nothing is richer than directly sketching subjects on-the-spot. No pictures. No videos. No poses. Just direct creative drawing. It doesn't even matter if it's "correct". Sketching is experiencing the eye-mind-hand process. The more you do it, the better you be in tune with your own unique style.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] JMillion:
very impressive. #thumbsup
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] jlanik4:
Those are incredible! Wish I could do that with my note!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] albert presslar:
I've tried to draw with my Note 8. In my opinion is it the best choice for digital sketch and draw.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Jadefalkon:
Wow, simply amazing you're really making it hard for me to choose which tablet to get. After getting a chance to play the note mainly concentrating on the media side I found I really liked it. I then decided not to get it because I heard of the bad battery life. I had no idea the pen was capable of starting like this.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
With the Adobe Photoshop Touch, you can do this from scratch, to how realistic you can do:

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This was done on my Galaxy Note II with the PS Touch for Phones. I will do something with the Note 8 when I find the time.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
The Note 8.0's battery is just satisfactory. I can drain it in 4 hours of heavy usage like games or downloading continuous torrents. For stock browsing with minimal brightness, it could drain 7 to 8 of continuous usage. I stopped wakeups with Greenify to have apps like Facebook, Whatsapp, or anything that does updates to sleep when the screen is off.

I still would get this over other tablets because the Note 8.0 is powerful and is the only one with a Wacom digitizer.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Just did a quick 5 minute sketch of my girlfriend while britains got tallent was on to test out the tablet and get used to sketchbook pro. Its nothing special, but I havent done any serious drawing for a good few years now and am hoping that this tablet will be my way back in to it.

Going to try LayerPaint today and see how I get on with that :)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
Nice. Not bad for 5 minutes. I find Sketchbook Pro to be most versatile than most sketching apps. I'm using it to produce architectural illustrations for a design competition due in 45v days. It will be a testament to skill. It can't however (yet) replicate watercolors or the textures of oils.

You can make magic if you really commit a few hours.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Thanks for the encouragement. I'm just learning how to use the different brush settings etc at the moment in Sketchbook and wont start to do anything serious until I am more comfortable with the tool. My background is pencils and watercolours (in collage 8 years ago), so its those mediums I'm most looking to replicate. I'm finding I'm quickly addapting to the "feel" of the screen rather than pencil and paper though.

note: my main intention is to develop a comic book style hence the big eyes in the sketch I attached, but i like the sound of the urban sketchers movement and may try and get more involved in it once I get more comfortable
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
In that case, for comics-like drawing, I recommend the Sketchbook n Ink. It's a wonderful app that really replicates the ink on brush. I just love it in making caricatures. The thin-thick brush line variations that the S Pen replicates are superbly controllable. There's no need to get the US$100+ Adonit bluetooth pressure sensitive stylus. It has a weird plastic disc tip.

You don't need to be so good to join the Urban Sketchers. I head the Philippine group, and we have members from all walks of life joining our regular monthly sketch walks. It gives an opportunity to sketch various subjects from life. The main reason why my drawing became better is through sketching from observation in the lay 3 years and keeping serious sketchbooks - discipline yourself in finishing every drawing on the pages you start. Never tear the pages. Commit to every page. It doesn't matter what stage your drawing maturity is, it is the amount of practice you need to do, surround yourself with people who also draw passionately, and have the courage to continue to draw all the time.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] kevinems:
pretty nice work.

pretty nice work.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] crabocado:
my prefs for sketching

Thanks to OP for starting this thread. I bought this device exclusively for art. Also bought a Samsung Series 7 (Windows) Slate (S7S) a year and a half ago for the same purpose. I got really frustrated waiting for Apple to come up with something like this. I remember doing clumsy sketches with my Palm PDA maybe 12 years ago and thinking, "in a couple years there'll be really nice portable sketching devices". Hah! What a discouraging wait. So when Samsung finally, finally started coming out with these Wacom-enabled devices, I've been in ecstasy.

Actually, the S7S gives a better drawing experience, and I am not certain, but I assume a lot of that is because I'm using it with (real) Photoshop. But, the S7S is expensive and heavy, and as a Mac person I'm really uncomfortable about issues on Windows like how to handle software updates, avoiding viruses, making sure all the software I need (e.g. PaintDock) still works, etc. So the whole system feels really precious and fragile. I use it at home, but for travel & sketching where I might drop the thing, I wanted something smaller, cheaper, lighter.

I've had the Note 8 for a couple weeks and first I tried Clover Paint, which gets rave reviews, but is a nightmare to figure out and set up, so after a couple days I switched over to Sketchbook Pro. I really like Sketchbook Pro, the UI is much more clear and it works reliably. But, I think the smoothing isn't as good as Photoshop, so I may try Sketchbook Ink. Another issue is the stylus. The design of the S-pen seems like a compromise to allow easy clicking of buttons with the button, so I get better response with light pressure using Axiotron stylus (standard Cintiq-style digitizer I think). The other big issue I have is with the texture of the surface. I really need a paper-like texture to support the pen/pencil, so I've struggled with ways to add friction. So I've been trying the Wacom Flex nibs and also their Hard Felt nibs. I also found that adding a sheet of cheap transparent plastic shelf liner from the hardware store ($5 for a huge roll), on top of the screen protector, actually adds a lot of traction, especially with the Flex nib, but it wears down (gets slick) after a few days. So, still experimenting...but anyway I really love this device for sketching. It's great to be able to add/mix color so easily, no mess required! Haven't used my S7S much recently, but I'll probably use it more at home once the honeymoon with the Note 8 is over:)

As for battery life, Note 8 is significantly better than S7S which gets maybe 5 hours at best, so it can't even last through a full day of sketching. Hard to say, but I think 7-9 hours is about what the Note 8 gets, definitely enough for all I need it to do between charges.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
I'm finding the fadein/out pen very good for comic line art in LayerPaint. Im going to spend my time on that and Sketchbook pro for now to master all the settings then see if I wish to use any other apps. Dont want to overwhelm myself with options just yet and not get the best use out of them...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
I got the extra S Pen with the eraser end. The tip of it can be changed to a rubberized type. I bought it immediately when I saw it as it was the only one in the shop. $24 was worth it.

I find myself using the plastic tip more for quick stroke gesture sketches. The eraser end is it is useful worth the S Note. It isn't optimized as an automatic eraser for Sketchbook Ink though.

It is rare for people buying the Note 8.0 as an art tool. This is like my creative think pad. I love the non-messy media that digital sketching offers. There's a lot more freedom. Although I credit my discipline in learning from mistakes done with dry and wet media on paper.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
I'm also using this same pen and enjoy it far more than the supplied pen.

On a side note, are you or anyone else aware of a drawing app that will smooth out the lines that you draw? sometimes when I want to draw a large curve, I'd like the app to actually smooth the curve ive drawn (similar to how illustrator smoothing works).
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
The work above was done with Sketchbook Ink. It's a friend's caricature, and the thin-thick line variations were done with quick strokes, sometimes more than one to achieve the thicker lines. The chiseled pointed lines were sometimes shaped by erasing.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] crabocado:
Sketchbook Ink

Are you able to export files back and forth between Sketchbook Pro and Sketchbook Ink? (Hopefully as .psd?) I imagine something like doing initial sketch in Pro, then doing the black outlines in Ink, and then adding color fills and other effects in Pro again -- Does that sound feasible? (I guess they kept them separate so they could make a little more money?)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
Sorry, there isn't an option for Sketchbook Ink to export as a layered Photoshop file. You could only export as PNG flattened image file. I just l love this app as you can export images up to 12800 by 8000 pixels. Photoshop Touch has only 4096 by 4096 pixel count maximum. Sketchbook Pro has about 2560 by 2560 pixel maximum and can be exported as PSD files.

I'm guessing that the limitations are for commercial profits. Autodesk could easily have had Sketchbook Ink export to PSD format but didn't. Maybe it also has to do with the hardware limitations as well like for Adobe Photoshop Touch. We're still getting there for portable super powered image production and editing. It's just good enough at the moment. I'm entering an architectural competition that needs A1 sized printouts and Sketchbook Ink seems to be the closest for high resolutioned illustrations on the Note 8.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
I still recomend LayerPaint as an alternative. You can create a file as large as you like. I just tried 10000x10000 and had no problems in doing so (other than slight reduced responsiveness).

You can also export the PSD file rather than an image file.

While the brush selection is limited, they are still fairly customisable and all very good.

While on the surface it seems like the most basic out of the options I've tested, so far it is my favourite.

I've not tried Photoshop Touch. I was lead to beleive it would come free with the tablet, but it isnt or at least I havent figured out how to get it.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] ExploreMN:
It was free with the Note 10.1, not the Note 8.0, and you can't move the OEM install over either. So even if you own a Note 10.1, you're limited to using it there unless you buy another copy.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] watchdog-prime:
I just got a note 8.0 this week, but I've been using the original Galaxy Note for Some time now. Layer Paint and Sketchbook Pro are the two best bets right now, but another choice is Infinite Painter. It had its flaws initially but has been getting better with each update, if you are familiar with a PC. program called Artrage, Infinite Painter is so-far the closest toArtrage.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Any clues on what the squiggly line does on the professional mode bar in layerpaint
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] watchdog-prime:
Not a clue, might need to email the creators to find that out.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
I think they are Japanese from the anime examples on the play store and the language the manual is in. Will try it anyway and see what response I get.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] civato:
It can be ported as I did on my RE-FLEXxx rom for the Note8.0 , it is a option in the aroma installer of the rom.

It is not only the apk but more lib files and stuff you need to port.

But it works on the Note8.0.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Got a reply

That option means "Hand shake (hands movement) correction".

Value is more (4, 5), more strokes shake (noise) removed.

If you don't perceive correction, your stroke is already good, maybe.

I dont notice any difference though...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] watchdog-prime:
That's good to know, I'll see how well it works later.

On a side note, I was just informed in a different forum of a new (to me at least) art tool in the Play store called ArtFlow. It looks pretty good in the short glance I gave it just now, it might be worthwhile to make a list of all the digital art apps available both good and bad.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
This is the list I got from FaeMinx while having a private chat with him. Hopefully he wont mind me sharing his thoughts...

"All the drawing apps I've installed so far:

Autodesk Sketchbook Ink - Great for inking, in spite of no apparent pressure sensitivity support at this time.

Autodesk Sketchbook Pro - Superb for sketching, with tons of brushes and very fluid clean interface.

LayerPaint - Apparently a good choice with good layer support, but I haven't explored it yet.

Photoshop Touch - Excellent pressure support + image manipulation features

Clover Paint - A great full package app with loads of customizability... only suffers from a slightly clunky UI, but a must have nevertheless.

Infinite Painter - Great for natural media, it reminds me of Corel Painter.

Infinite Design - Vector based, a great companion app for Infinite Painter.

TVPaint Animation - A complete desktop software package, daunting in it's scope, but everything you could possibly need. Good pressure sensitivity... unfortunately it's only free till November... after that it will cost hundreds of dollars to use.

And these you can safely ignore for now: (they simply don't compare to the capabilities of the above apps)

Paperless

Drawing Pad

FlipaClip

Sketch!"
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
I don't mind at all. :)

I had a quick look at that Artflow app before work. I really like it. The user interface is very intuitive and helpful for productivity. The pressure sensitivity is excellent! Best I've come across so far. Just the default pen with default settings I can get a barely discernible feather light line right up to a clean solid black line in one stroke! This is exactly what I was looking for. Now I can sketch the way I like - akin to paper + 0.3mm pacer pencil ( my preferred medium ). I was so impressed with the app I bought the pro licence.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] watchdog-prime:
Yeah, I activated ArtFlow too. Another app to consider, it's not really an art app but can be very useful none the less, is Lecture notes. It has a number of customizable options but more importantly for me, it has a layers option. It and S Note are my two go-to apps for notes.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
Sketchbook Ink now has pressure support! Woo hoo! :> things just keep on Looking up...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
It did have pressure sensitivity. The update introduces a new pen brush option and pen only input.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Does ArtFlow have a palm rejection mode? Tried the free version and keep putting thick lines accross the screen by mistake. Cant see it in any options. Is it available in the full version?

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A few things about LayerPaint as thats the tool I've been using most.

Its still my go to tool for quick sketched due to the simplicity of the layout and strong set of basic tools, but I've ran into a few issues which I'm going to email the maker about.

Layers. There doesnt appear to be an option to duplicate or merge layers which I'm finding frustrating.

Lines There is supposed to be an option to smooth out your line work, but I cant notice any difference with or with out it. The ability to be able to smooth out curved lines ala adobe illustrator is a function I would greatly appriciate, but is one I've not found in any mobile tool yet.

I'm off on holiday tomorrow. If someone can confirm that ArtFlow has palm reject and how to activate it, I will purchase that and spend some serious time playing with it and Sketchbook pro while away to see if either of them can overtake LayerPaint as my go to app.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] cmunho:
From a painting exit to the gallery. Tap the settings button, the painting settings. Enable pen only mode.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Brilliant. Thats exactly what I was after.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] ejsid:
You can enable pen only mode from settings (it's available in free version as well). Open gallery > settings > paintings and there is pen only checkbox.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
I love LayerPaint! It has the essentials I need for an architectural competition since I'm doing my proposal in freehand drawing. I'll post my entry once the results come out in September. This thing just got me fired up!

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] watchdog-prime:
Hit the menu button when you have a canvas open and then click on layer in menu. The duplicate and merge features are there.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Not had much inspiration since getting my note. thought it might be a nice idea to start a monthly theme or something for us to post pictures to. Use this thread to decide on a theme and a seperate thread to post and discuss our results? Thoughts/ suggestions?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
That's a good idea. In our Urban Sketchers group, we have a monthly theme for sketching on-location to keep things interesting and not be just comfortable on drawing things you just like. Let's start it with the theme Where you Work.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rizzwiz:
I agree. I'm in the same boat, and it's like some inspiration.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Quick sketch of my gf ironing. Gotten used to doing faces again, but need more practice bodies. Not going to do much ink or colouring until I'm happy with my sketching once more. I like comic book styles
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
Experiment with Aury Ink app. Can't get higher resolutions and you can't save the work in progress. Only has an export option.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
July's theme was a bit of a disapointment. Admittedly I only started work on my submission towards the end of last week. I was thinking Self Portrait as a theme for August.

Thoughts? suggestions?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
I love the Sketchbook Ink's pen inking simulation and high resolution exporting at 8000 by 12800 pixels. It's a straightforward opaque inking on paper with a layering system.

The only thing that it lacks are scaling and PSD exporting. I love using it for caricatures but works also well with architectural conceptualization:

http://m.flickr.com/#/photos/92800985@N06/9462467534/in/set-72157633514570241/

http://m.flickr.com/lightbox?id=9462463570&context=set-72157633514570241
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
If you can share some more details about its functionality, I'll add them to the chart I'm building up
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] bathanr:
Used auto desk sketch.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] intelliriffer:
Nice chart, will be very helpful

Sketch book Pro does have a smudge kinda brush (pixel pusher ) that a very lower opacity can act as blend.

on a second note if i may ask, any idea if any of the apps supports Overly blend mode for layers? i.e whites dodge and blacks burn aka traditional photoshop?.

Edit: Just saw in your chart that the first entity : clover paint does support overlay blend.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
Clover paint can do a lot, it just takes a while to get comfortable with the user interface. I have no experience with desktop software so it's a steep learning curve for me.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] TheNeighbor101:
The Sketchbook Ink really is quite limited on functionality. It's just a good ink brush, pen tipped assortment, high resolution output, opaque painting, with layer transparency control. It can't however, scale drawings, only has 1 image underlay (and you can't move, rotate, scale or crop), and has no export image choice except png. Here are some

I love it because I can do some great caricature drawings with the thin-thick edge lines with layers.

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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] shaverzbt:
Thanks for the art!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hertsjoatmon:
planned on finishing this sketch recently. But now have a puppy that is taking up a lot of my time. thought I'd share what l had done So far. Sketch in Layer Paint. Colour in Clover Paint. Think l will use A vector programme to do the line art next time.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] asepuhuybok:
Im love to draw but i cant draw so well, i buy note 8.0 to practice my drawing skill. I draw like a kid, but im eager to studying draw.. hope its not late to study drawing in my current age. Any tips?

Thx :):)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] SithDagger:
Its never to late to learn how to draw! :)

Tips:

1. Draw from life as often as possible.

2. Scour good websites, like conceptart.org for tutorials and things you may need help with.

3. Practice practice practice! :)