yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Hey guys! New build up on mediafire. Check third post for changelog. For the lazy http://www.mediafire.com/download/0q8qp3hc1j912i1/sm_manta-1.0.1-1370211518-0602.zip
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
Download not working....
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Request desktop
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] momulah:
Please add in real tablet support like Paranoid android if possible.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
To be honest, I like it the way Google did it. Pull down on right for qs while on right for notifications. Quick and easy. I don't plan to add that in. [MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION] I believe doesn't either.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Dial pane preferences and Nav bar DPI changer is good enough...

There's also xposed framework here on xda or you can download and flash the multi-dpi playstore (also here on xda), and change the LCD density in build.prop
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Alright guys I'm taking a vote. Who wants SEandroid merged with SaberMod?

http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid

It's going to be a lot of work for testing, and I'd need to rebase SaberMod completely but it might be worth it. Might also break things like root.

I'll check back in the morning.

Cc: [MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION]
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Personally, I am neither strongly for against. It probably makes sense to have it...but I don't mind not having it.

:)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
It looks like SEAndroid also requires its own kernel, or its changes to be coded into whatever custom kernel is used. This would make it incompatible with any of the popular kernels (Trinity, KTManta, and Franco) that we have here wouldn't it?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bruce7373:
Any chance of making the Quick Settings configurable and as a notification widget?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
We will be working on it once we have time
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Could break compatibility with kernels yes. Unless they build separate versions just for us ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jefflikesbagels:
That looks like a pretty cool addition to Android. However, if it's going to require more coding to get working than it's worth, then there's your answer!

On the flipside, I definitely wouldn't mind testing it out. I don't run custom kernels anyways, because for some reason they usually cause my devices to be more unstable.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] _frog hair:
+1

Allthough i do use custom kernels.

Sendt fra min Nexus 10 med Tapatalk2
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
We? I never planned on it you said you'd work on it ;)

I don't feel like tracking all those dependencies down. But I'm sire you can do it :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
The kernel devs would need to make special versions just for this ROM :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I don't think they will though lol.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Why? I do this all the time, but is there a reason why I shouldn't?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Because in twrp recovery, format data means to wipe all your internal storage...

So instead select data factory reset or data factory wipe
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Ah, yeah I'm aware of what it does; when I switch between ROM's and stuff, I like doing a completely clean wipe. I just thought there might of been some technical reason (like some partition being corrupted or something) why I shouldn't be using format data.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
But why do you need to format your internal sdcard when switching ROMs? That's not necessary... A data factory wipe is sufficient enough. Plus most people like to keep their pictures and stuff...

Sure if your partition gets corrupted but I doubt that's ROM flashing related. You can do that at any time when you need to not just switching ROMs?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Doesn't the cache of some old apps also stick around on /sdcard? I'm seeing stuff left over in the Android/data folder for Browser, Gallery, Music, and Ingress, but I imagine other apps being able to store stuff there.

I was just using the corruption thing as an example; like the way your instruction was worded, it sounded like (or I interpreted it as) something "bad" would occur if you format data with TWRP, bad being something like partition corruption.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Oh nah. Before I use to tell people to format data. Then someone got upset because it deleted their photos and music and stuff. Anyways. Those instructions are in the ROM flashing section. So yeah, bad things, loosing your music and photos and stuff on sdcard unexpectedly. I use cwm recovery anyways, never had too many problems.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] VertigoOneX:
Hey man, was testing every rom out there and this is not the best in benchmarks but there's no stability problems and no stuttering with everyday usage (internet, facebook, reading) like with other roms. Also responsiveness is way better than with other roms.

I am going to stay with this rom for a while but a lot of stuff is missing other customisable do have. Not all of them are necessary but I would like to have custom quick setting tiles, more options to adjust home screen (transition, number of screens, wallpaper scroll and so on) and more options to adjust pie controls. It is really awesome that pie turns on when extended desktop is activated but I don't like the vibration feedback for the buttons, changing colors of the buttons would be awesome too.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] addicted1900:
Haha the opposite of my opinion.

I love the Rom for its simplicity, no unneeded haxxor customizations which don't work, just a few simple features. And the best thing it's stable as hell with the best performance of the roms I tried.

Please keep the Rom as it is!

The people who want a Rom with a mass of options should try AOKP...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] johno86:
Homescreen customization: use a custom launcher i.e nova apex go etc

Vibration feedback: turn off haptic feedback in sounds setting.

Have good day.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
New update is live. Check 3rd post for changelog :) Biggest change is -O3 optimization. For the lazy http://www.mediafire.com/download/g5qbdgr43gdiu1r/sm_manta-1.0.1-1370525666-0606.zip
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Gonna be a lot of effort but i think i need to try this ROM cause of optimizations.. :P Gonna be a few things I'll miss from AOKP but if the stability and performance are good enough it'll be worth it haha
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Trust me. The speed on this Rom is worth it ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
I'm counting on it ;) the main thing i'll be losing is the notification toggles but I don't have to use them nearly as much as on my phone as i leave gps on always, NFC on always, rarely use bluetooth ever, and don't have to toggle mobile data :)

As soon as gapps is done downloading.. poor goo, servers are buckling these days D:

Do you have any preferences for custom kernel?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
Trinity works very nice with this ROM, and you will be surprised how little this ROM lacks when compared to aokp!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Yeah I'm lookin at it and I guess I don't take advantage of all the AOKP features :P I know it def has more features, I just don't use many of them ;) I'll give trinity a try, see how it goes :) (Hope you don't mind franco ;P i've always been running his stuff but in my defence he's been focusing very hard on nexus 4 :) )
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
I'm sure we'll work on a enhanced stockish kernel at some point :)

We've both been busy working on other device kernels but things are starting to slow down a bit.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
What is O3 optimizations? What does it do?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] shaker2k:
With a straight flash and no changes to the kernel settings, this rom just flys!

Played need for Speed and it was smoother than Mr Robinsons aokp plus kmanta on butterlicious settings. Plus it did not generate the kind of heat I was getting before.

I'm sold!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bhake:
Only issue I've seen is Google search app closes suddenly while looking at search results. It does not say force close, just closes by itself. Weird. Wiped dalvik and fixed permissions fyi. Worked fine in 6/2 build. Otherwise everything else seems fine here. Anyone else seeing something similar?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
The very very basics of it is speeding up pretty much everything about the system by requiring less code to be run, i assume it would fill up the L1 cache less and allow more instructions to get in there making for a theoretically (and often times actual) better performance (correct me if i'm wrong :) )

Oops! I think I messed up! Got it backwards haha, sorry, -O3 produces faster code but at the risk of having bigger objects and as such might fill up the L1 cache, which is why it's not always ideal, but if you can get rid of the bugs you end up with decently faster code
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Well if you really want to know all the specifics of it.

http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/Optimize-Options.html

Optimize yet more. -O3 turns on all optimizations specified by -O2 and also turns on the -finline-functions, -funswitch-loops, -fpredictive-commoning, -fgcse-after-reload, -ftree-vectorize, -fvect-cost-model, -ftree-partial-pre and -fipa-cp-clone options.

If you want to search for each flag in that document you can read the description of what each one does.

Hope that's not too big of a can of worms ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
This build is a monster! This is definitely one of the best gaming ROMs out there, RR3 with ultra high settings is nice and smooth.

This is a heads up for noobs

Benchmark's will be really low, so ignore them.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Yup, I just compared builds and the -O3 added about 10mb's in size to the ROM's (compressed size of the zip, probably more uncompressed in the system on the device).
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Agreed. It is one of the fastest roms there is. :cowboy:

Good to hear there will be an STS kernel too. :D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Nope. What gapps? Use the official one
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bhake:
Yep, I only flash official from op link. Same gapps with the other builds previously here and had zero issues. Love this rom! Tried wiping system, cache and dalvik. No difference. Will wipe clean and try again. I am sure it's something I did, just can't figure it out.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Google search is gapps related. When you flash different gapps do you just flash only the gapps or the ROM then gapps. This is very important because the ROM formats the system so no need to wipe system manually.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] brees75:
It may be an issue, stock browser, play store, and a couple other apps unrelated to gapps are fc'ing. I do a factory wipe before every flash. Also used suggested gapps but gapps don't seem to be the issue. Isn't happening enough for me to change, maybe twice an hour.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Not happening to me but I haven't been using it long.

I did a full wipe including system when I installed.

I will post again if I get an FC.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
I got also FCs on AOSP Browser. I thought it could be the kernel and switched back to "trinity". Must test if the probs gone.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
i had problems with Aosp and Boat Browser FCing on me, Dolphin seems to be ok so far
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Really? None here
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
How can stock kernel be the problem? :silly:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
I dont know. I had to change something, so i changed the kernel in hope it would be better. And at the moment i got no more browser FCs.;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
[MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION] your on the stock kernel?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
I think it was Stock. Was compiled with GCC4.6 bla bla. So should be google ones.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
FYI kernel has nothing to do with browser!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
FC aosp browser after new releases

06.06

Aokp Mr Robinson and sabermod

Stock kernel and also on trinity

FC more pronounced when loading Facebook.com
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Then its ROM related. I never had those FCs with all previous builds.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
Noticed another ROM was updated lately with newest Mali GPU drivers, are they newer than the ones here? (Also do they even improve performance or stability any or is it just buzzwords/placebo? :P)

Also in relation to AOSP browser crashing, no issues here, but I did to a clean install coming from a different ROM so that might affect it
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Well I checked cm's git and there's no changes in browser or WebKit. Nothing changed on our end either.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Was. Now on trinity. Didn't have problems though. When are you guys getting the fc?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
No logs :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
I get fc when i scroll down the news feed in facebook ( in aosp browser )

Second time when i flash sabermod . its so fking fast and solid compare to aokp mr robinson and that its a rock ...

This are the only problems i encounter and offcoyrse the lack of tablet ui... But i prefer speed
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Hmm..I don't use Facebook on the browser. You guys will need to provide logs for sparksco to find the issue
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
What fun would that be? :p

Logs should be posted here on the thread, so people can at least take a look at it. How do you think I learned how to read logs, by looking in them lol!

Open the file and search for the word "error". If nothing useful pops up then have to look more closely at it to see if theirs any exceptions or "such and such app has died".
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
log

The error occured at appx 20:27:00

06-07 20:27:00.483 I/BootReceiver( 418): Copying /data/tombstones/tombstone_09 to DropBox (SYSTEM_TOMBSTONE)

06-07 20:27:00.543 I/ActivityManager( 418): Process com.android.browser (pid 7533) has died.

I did a clean flash ... If this helps
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Thank you, when I get home I'll have a look at it :)

Right before I unbox my new nexus 4, cause once I start on that I won't want to do anything else for the weekend ;p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
I caught this when using Google search
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Ok the problems came back. Browser FC on facebook. I dont use it, but tried it out caues someone mentioned there was a problem on it. But i cant reproduce the FCs. Maybe i get a logcat next time.;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
[MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION] , why don't you pull your own logs since everyone else seems to be having issues :)

Maybe you didn't do a clean build?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Stock browser is not related to gapps, however playstore is, and google search is. I recommend stock or Franco kernel. Hopefully [MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION] can find a fix soon. I don't have a manta...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I'll do it when I'm home. Are you guys getting it on the latest build or it was always there?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Latest

The problem its on mr robinson aokp rom also in his latest
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Just so I understand this ROM correctly, it's using AOSP as the base, with bionic + linaro + other optimizations, and some CM apps?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Did you read the FAQ?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
If this helps -> The fc occurs also with franco , trinity and stock so .... I just tried now
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
That was my bad lol; only read the 1st post.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
So got a log too.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
Saw the USB tethering option under Network settings > More, but it seems it doesn't actually work. Any chance it could be looked into?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2047685 may have some info as to getting it working.

My objective is to use the N10 as a Wireless adapter for my desktop computer. Lost hope on it ever really being implemented until I saw it on this ROM.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I'll look into it tonight. Looks like I just need to add it to Manta config. About the log, [MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION] can you check it out? I don't know how to. :p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
God this thing is fast, I am still using the stock kernel, lol.

The only "issue" I have had is the browser minimized itself for no reason, not a force close.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
Yeah this is what I meant to say when I said browsers are FCing its pretty much the same thing since you lose the page you were on. Its been happening pretty frequently hopefully there's a fix
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Yeah like I said when I'm home...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I can't get the fc on stock browser....what do you guys do on it? I just search the web and look things up.. no fc
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
That's odd because we never changed anything to expose that option. Must be a bug in aosp.

Looks like it requires a modified kernel. Did you flash a kernel that has the fix in it?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I also search the web and look things up, lol. And while I was doing such things the browser just minimised for no reason. It only happened twice in 24 hours or something so it's not all the time.

http://db.tt/jwghKBFV some logs.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] espionage724:
I believe I asked Franco if he could implement it in franco.Kernel; I think he said he'd look into it or something, but not entirely sure if he did or not. But in any case, that's the kernel I use.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Maybe it has to do with the new mali drivers ? I don t know

Looks like could be a memory loading error also ...

Reproduction ( in AOSP Browser ) :

-> open facebook.com

-> go to the news feed

-> scroll fast , up and down and voila !

If i dont get FC with one tab opened , i would open a second facebook tab and repeat the scrolling until FC

The program exits but it stays on in the processes section .

When i select it again from there ->

It opens in its default status . ( no tabs )

--------------------

The error occurs also on "trinity, franco and stock" . didn t tried with "ktmanta"

After flashing the kernel , i was flashing :

-> "gapps_rbj_2013_05_16" OR "gapps 4.2.2 JDQ39 BaNkS Keyboard-Photosphere" ( try them both with the same FC, didn t tried the "gapps-full-4.2-20130322" )

And

-> "[Universal]AC!DAudioEngine[v5.0]_signed" ( didnt try without flashing this )
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I finally was able to do it according to you guys. Odd. I'm going to post a new alpha build to see if it persist later on in the day.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] bruce7373:
I'm getting FCs with the latest running searches with Google Search. Is this related to the browser issue?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Yes

Most probably

Patience :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Yeah hopefully it was just a bad nightly..

If not the -O3 might cause some issues with the other manta optimizations. Just continue to debug, it might take some time that's why it's a nightly build ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
I think the new releases doesnt like "Force Gpu Rendering"

;)

Edit: i get the same FC cake it it off
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Here's the first test build to see if it is there. I'm not getting it so far while browsing but it might be me. http://d-h.st/5uM :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I will try it out. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I'll have another build up soon. Want to figure this out first. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
OK, I have already flashed this one. :)

Clean install wiping system.

I used the gapps in the OP like usual but next time would it be ok to use these? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2012857
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
Those are the ones I flashed and it's working fine for me
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Yes those should work fine
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Seems too work. Dirty flash over the previous.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] rlattin24:
So far so good haven't had any problems with first build
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Used the AOSP browser on and off for an hour with no problems. Have to do stuff now. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Thanx dude !

I get the best battery with this rom with my lemon nexus 10 .

Before max 5 hours, now 6 / 7 . magic

Also , i get 700 mb free ram vs 300 mb aokp mr robinson.

No FC with the fix release.

:beer::beer::beer:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Lemon? lol. I'll have another test build up soon. Glad you like the Rom as much as I do :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Why another test build? The current one seems to be working :)

Does the current ROMs have the screen off animation toggle feature I added?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Here is test build v2. :) http://d-h.st/JjZ Report as soon as you can.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Because the other one has -O3 turned off. I saw freerunner's supposedly fix for broswer so I thought I might give it a try with -O3. If it doesn't work, then for now all builds will be built without -O3. About the toggle, the Nexus 10 doesn't have the animation so it's useless :P
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Oh. Well the animation is not device specific. We can enable it in the device tree then it will work.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
V2 has FC ...

Unfortunately
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Yep. Will do so.

Guess it is the -O3 causing the issue then. Thanks.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] iamikon:
What the heck do you do with your tablet? Mine lasts days at a time.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
He has a lemon. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
New official build today. I fixed the browser closing by itself bug by not using the -O3 optimizations. Also [MENTION=2346675]espionage724[/MENTION] I implemented the thing you linked me to the device/tree. See if the USB tethering works now. Also added in CRT animation :D Enable/Disable in display. Here's the build for the lazy http://d-h.st/18b

I'll be also uploading it to Mediafire. Good night guys and report anything.