yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Either the app or your device is having a derp lol. Cause not everyone has the issues with browsers...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] s1lenz:
well its not "browsers", its just dolphin. im not sure anybody else in here tried dolphin 10 on sabermod.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
I have and it works fine.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Just scanning through the playstore reviews there's reports of crashes like on the nexus 7 on version 10. So its not a app issue??? Why don't you leave a review there or report the bug to them (most playstore devs have a contact email listed). But leaving logcats and reporting it here won't do much good cause there's nothing we can do to fix playstore apps...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] s1lenz:
Relax, I didn't say it wasnt an app issue. Thats why I asked you "what do you mean by app issue; the app is buggy or the app doesnt work well with sabermod?"

If you don't want or need feedback thats fine, no worries.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Is it really that hard to read the first page of playstore to find out if it's the app or the ROM? Instead of "such and such app is crashing, I'll get a logcat in hopes that you can fix it". You could of saved yourself and us a lot of time by doing just that.

I'm completely relaxed bro. Your the one who's flipping out over dolphins lol.

Again, you keep going on about SaberMod feedback that has nothing to do with how playstore apps behave.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] s1lenz:
Wow, youre just not gonna let this go are you?

The majority for those reviews are 4-5 stars praising the browser. You singled out one of two from 20 reviews saying the app crashed on their system: one was on a nexus 7, the other was on a LG. Pick an app, any app and you'll have at least one person saying there's issues with it. For some reason you read that and are trying to rub it in my face like "aha! see! see!? the guy with the nexus 7 says dolphin crashes!" Yeh ok.

For some reason you're taking offense to me offering a logcat. I'm not a developer, I don't know if a logcat helps or doesn't help. I didn't know if it was the app, the rom, or my device. I read the OP and offered a logcat in hopes that it would give you more information to patch up the intermittent errors people have been reporting with browsers and flipboard. When you said "its not the rom, its the app" I didn't understand if you meant its "just this app" or if its "this app in combination with some tweaks I made to saber". So I offered to flash to stock and test to see if:

- it is the app

- it is my device

- it is the rom

You know, to give back information, because I know if I were a rom developer that's what I would want. Not people *****ing about **** not working, but people offering to giveme as much information to figure out if there's any validity to their errors or not. So excuse me for trying to ****ing help.

If you want to take the "rawr my rom is the best rawr theres nothing wrong wtih rom its the app rawr why are you wasting my time trying to offer me logcats rawr" megalomaniac dev attitude, that's your business. No love lost.

Btw, formatted the sd card and did a clean install of CM10.1, browser doesn't crash. Take that as you will. Rawr.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Wow what is your problem with me? It's obvious that you were one of the only ones having this issue since jarjar124 confirmed no crashes with it. But you still wanted to carry on your attack towards me. You formatted your sdcard, flashed another ROM, great good for you! And I'm sure formatting the sdcard had nothing to do with fixing it :rolleyes:

Issues with market apps on ROMs are not very often device related if the ROM is at fault. That being said, dolphin browser works fine for me. I had never once claimed this to be "The best ROM". Your misinterpretations seem to be getting the best of you.

Your right, no love lost at all from you leaving this ROM. You came in this thread and almost immediately started reporting dolphin 10 and flipboard app crashes. So by all means, no one will miss the negativity.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
With activated halo the performance of the -O3 Rom is not really good. Scrolling between the homescreens with Nova is very laggy. After deactivating halo it runs as with previous builds. It tried it right now with a complete fullwipe now, but same result.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Odd. It's not like that for me when I was using it last night to chat with sparks. Worked fine and smooth. Kernel?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Im using the one which is implemented. And Browser closes with an other Browser. Tested with AOSP and Ocean Browser.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
And you tested on stock launcher after wipe or nova? Nova is a very heavy launcher and IMO has always had some types of bugs. Have you tried with apex launcher?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Attack_Dog:
Doing great so far with the -03.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] b1g.p0ppa:
I just tested with a full wipe (system, data, cache, dalvik). Installed 0619-O3 and 0313 gapps from OP. Booted, signed into google account, went to play store and updated everything that needed it. Waited ~5 minutes, rebooted. Browser crashed just surfing random pages on huffingpost.com (the site I found that pretty reliably crashes it). So this is AOSP browser, full clean flash and no changes to any settings.

But, in everyday use, the browser hardly ever crashes. On the rare occasions when it does, I just open it again and it usually is on the same page I was on before. So it really doesn't affect me that bad. I would care a lot more if I was using my tablet for anything mission critical, but I'm not.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Hi

I only testet on Nova. Thats my favourite launcher. Testet before and after a fullwipe. Nothing changed. I find a browser who didnt close for me. Chrome Beta didnt close, but its an un-snappy browser and im not really happy with it. Maybe i give apex a try.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] VertigoOneX:
Just to be sure the UNOFFICIAL-0619-O3 -build is the newest O3 build available atm? I'm still on 0613 no O3 and in more than a week of usage I didnt have a single FC or reboot. I want to see how this new halo works and if O3 is a real improvement ;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
So i tried apex as default launcher. Its a litte bit better as with nova but unsnappier as it is with deactiated halo.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Attack_Dog:
Running 0619-03 build. Bluetooth fails to start other than that everything seems to run great!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Try the -O2 one to see if Bluetooth starts
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Attack_Dog:
If that's the 0619 build without -03 Bluetooth works.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Ok yeah.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
6/19 -o3 on

Full wipe , dalvik etc .

Trinity kernel 38

Stock launcher

Result :

Aosp browser FC

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The ROM its super fast with -O3, too bad i get FC :mad:

Thank you for trying your best

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6/19 without -O3

Stock launcher / Apex launcher

Trinity 38 / stock kernel

Edit: i get also FC with aosp browser

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6/08 -o3 off

No crash , smooth and fast but not like -o3 on variants

Trinity 38

Stock launcher

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6/13 -o3 off

no crash , smooth and fast

Trinity 38

Stock launcher
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
Very smooth and super snappy. But AOSP browser still crashes with 19/6 build with O3
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Me too, I wonder what is going on. The 03 stuff makes things so fast it is fab but what is the problem with Manta? Mr Robinsons aokp is the same. Weird.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Don't worry, I'm working on a -O3 optimized manta kernel this morning :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Good stuff. :)

I do love SM, I have it on my Nexus 7 too.

On the N7 the battery life is just amazing.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Here it is. If you have the Google drive app and/or Rom manager it's really easy to flash ;):good:

After clicking the link go to "File" tab then download ;)

The ChangeLog

http://goo.gl/gXm9Z
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] skyklg:
flash this over 19/6 -O3 build?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Any ROM is fine. It'll probably work on other ROMs too.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Here the flashable kernel. Cant attach it at the moment, dont know whats the problem here with xda, so i uploaded it in my dropbox. Links didnt work at the moment too.

Links removed.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
[MENTION=4373586]hanspampel[/MENTION]

I accualy don't want people posting mirrors so I can known how many people are downloading it... If you use the aosp browser when you select the link you shouldn't have any issues. And... My original link is working fine anyways.

Can you kindly remove thanks.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Sorry sparksco, i thought it was a bit easier for the user with a flashable zip. I removed the link.

Edit: Links working, but i cant get a link on a word like "click me" or attach a file.

Edit2: Now all works again.:o

Edit3: But if i attach the kernel here in this thread, you can see the download counter.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
No worries. If you go to the link then select "File" tab and download. Sorry it's such a pain this way. The problem with attachments is I can't repost the link later on like this ;)

Edited original post

http://goo.gl/gXm9Z
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Tell me one thing, maybe im a noob or blind or something, but on your link a cant get a flashable zip right?

Edit: Forget what i say. I have it. I must click on file under your kernel. There is the download option. I downloaded all the files separately an made my own flashable zip.:cool: Thats why i posted the link.:p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
ok, what's goin on? what am I downloading here?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42831278

Its a kernel with -O3 optimizations

:thumbup::D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
It didn't look like that on my tablet, had to go on my PC, now I can see it. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Yeah you have to request desktop view on mobile device
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Yea, I shoulda. Got it now anyway. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sttovo:
Holy cow, just loaded the SM ROM with the kernel you just posted. AMAZING. I can finally say I have no scrolling lag. Great work!!!!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Still aosp browser crash ...

I ve dirty flash 6/19 over 6/13 and after flashed your new kernel
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
The new kernel isn't supposed to address ROM things...
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Something goes wrong with your latest kernel. My tab never falls to sleep. When i check with BBS i got kernel wakeups from power managment. My tab drains with 3 till more percantage very quickly.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Reflash ROM, wipe cache and dalvik, then reflash the kernel. Don't flash over another kernel like trinity or franco cause it uses it's own ramdisk.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
No other feedback from people on the kernel? Wow OK...

:eek:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sttovo:
Hey I'm a fan. I love the smoothness. Battery is dropping quicker than other kernels I've tried, but I can live with that.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Guys about the battery with the new kernel, let it settle after a few charge cycles. Then talk about battery life :) [MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION] running fine and smooth over here. Seems slightly faster. Noticeable when opening apps.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] noneabove:
My tabs been at home for a few hours, I'll check sleep time when I get home
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Hi

Strange thing. I did it exactly this way. But i never had an other kernel on my tab since the last fullwipe. But i reflashed it once again and now it seems to work. Thx alot. Good work.:good:
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] samwheat:
Well ...

You are a genius

No more aosp FC with 6/19 -o3 and the last STS kernel

Good job guys !!! The fastest/solid ROM around becomed lighting fast ..

I will let you know how's the battery
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
I was going to put up a new kernel today that should be a little more battery friendly but I'll let [MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION] test the source first though cause I added user voltage control. Not sure how well it works yet.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Sorry for lack of feedback, I have been otherwise engaged. Very nice, smooth.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Sorry guys. Me and sparks have been busy lately. Don't worry though. The wait is worth it. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Awesome. Is it adjustable in Trickster MOD? Or something else?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Not sure it's from KTManta kernel. From a very early stage of it. [MENTION=4325945]ktoonsez[/MENTION] mixed in some changes with GPU and CPU OC. So it wasn't easy to implement, especially the later commits/patches.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Amazing ROM! Love it!

Is it possible to move the back/home/recent button to the bottom left? Does that option exist? Thanks!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Hi,

Yes in navigation bar customization long press the buttons in editing mode to move them around to where you want them.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TheShamsMan:
Hey man! Thanks for the reply!

Sorry, I don't think I was very clear. Rearranging the buttons is no problem, but they will always remain in the middle section of the bottom bar. How would I move all the buttons all the way to the far bottom left corner of the screen? It's hard for me to reach the buttons when in landscape when they are all bunched in the middle. Thanks again!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] aaron.bufc:
No, that would require tablet ui to be built into the ROM...much like that of Paranoid Android or AOKP.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] TheShamsMan:
10-4. Thanks!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
There's two buttons on the sides (that aren't in the middle). That's my only suggestion. As far as the layout of where the buttons can go that isn't configurable. Its using cm navigation controls.

I use pie controls so I don't have that problem on my tablet.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
RC4 is released! This is the first release candidate for Manta. Me and [MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION] have put a lot of work into this release. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do. Here's link for lazy http://www.mediafire.com/download/boha3vk01ukyvy3/sm_manta-1.0.1-RC4.zip.

Changelog will come later.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
It probably runs just as good on manta or even better than mako :thumbup::D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
very nice, thanks guys.

I am not seeing any governor controls options in Trickster?

Not complaining, just seems weird
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
Downloading now. Does it have the latest sets kernel or stock kernel?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] theultimatev:
Does this come packaged with the latest kernel you built? :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Hmm, not sure... [MENTION=4617326]jarjar124[/MENTION] was supposed to test before release :p
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
I'm wondering how many cpu cores r active and at what speed lol. Cant tell and its a bit laggy :P
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
It runs fine. I leave it at default so maybe that's why? It does run cooler

Sent from my Saber-Tooth mako
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Don't give us the changelog for a few days and see what people report about AOSP browser crashes and stuff... blind testing.

;)

Anyway, I haven't used the browser long enough yet to report. I can report that the rom is very nice, very fast. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] situman:
Aosp browser closed while signing in to yahoo mail. Reopened browser and still on sign in screen
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I just had it on Facebook. :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Chrome browser should work fine for that...

Can't you also use the email app for yahoo?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Chrome should work, but its so fu**ing unsmooth. "AOSP" and "Ocian'" are very smooth in scrolling, not so laggy as chrome an firefox. Thats why we all want a running AOSP Browser.;)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Not as smooth? The whole ROM is smooth.

Should like placebo.

Chrome has worked well for me, as well as the AOSP browser.

Works fine on my tablet and my phone ^^

And what's wrong with using the email app?

Seriously!?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Syk69:
I agree. Chrome is horrible for manta regardless of rom. Scrolling on it drives me nuts with all the stutter. On phones its a different story its much smoother.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
[MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION]

I didnt say anything ab out the yahoo app. Dont have an account there. ;) But chrome isnt equal in speed to AOSP for me. Im a tab surfer, means i have 8 till 10 tabs online. Chrome didnt save my tabs, when i go for excample from tab 1 to tab 3 and came back to one again after 60 seconds, he loads the page again and the pictures are greyed out for a moment. But he didnt refesh the site, he only loads the old one. I must refresh manually afterwards. I hope you understand what i want to say. The only reason why i use chrome, is this ROM here. Its great and one of the best i ever used, but it would be perfect if the Browsers would working well. And would be the best ROM if tabletui would be implemented.:D;)

Btw good job guys.:good:

[MENTION=4628258]Syk69[/MENTION]

Chrome is not smoother on Smartphones as on our N10. I had it on my S3 and now on my S4, didnt feel better as with N10. Maybe a bit smoother cause the display is the half of N10.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] theultimatev:
I left this rom when it first came out because of the lack of features compared to other dailies I had been using, though the speed boost was noticeable even then. On RC4, the rom has improved into the best daily ever! Not overly bloated with crapware (I still stripped the rom a little bit) and flies along with the kernel included in this thread (wasn't sure if the rom came with it). Over all, I'm very pleased :) even though my family is getting angry because I promised to disconnect while on vacation XD

---------- Post added at 09:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:56 PM ----------

Have you tried dolphin jet pack? It's actually not as horrendous as it used to be. It has functioning tabbed browsing that resembles the AOSP browser :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Syk69:
Yeah didn't mean smooth on phones just smoother than manta experience. I have a one x with 4.7 screen so yeah the smaller screen helps in that regard. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
I guess we'll just remove AOSP browser for manta and that will solve that!
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
No i didnt used dolphin jetpack. Maybe i give him a try, but hes using the same engine from real dolphin which crashes for me like others like boat browser etc.

Edit: [MENTION=2394329]sparksco[/MENTION]

That didnt solve the probs with other Browser.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
[MENTION=4373586]hanspampel[/MENTION]

Fixed

https://github.com/SaberMod/android_build/commit/8f8bd7545fb3c9983510ad3f197c87a77be1af2f
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Yeah ok you delete it from your repo, but as i said before, it didnt solve the Problems with other Browser. Or missunderstand i something?:confused: People can still download the Browser from play store with AOSP installer. And the probs came back.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
Other browsers aren't our problem. The one in the ROM will be gone for manta now... Problem solved.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Aha ok, its your decision.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
If it's to ever to be added back, jarjar124 will need to do some extensive testing by changing things around that are specific to manta; cause in all honestly we're quite sick of hearing about the problems people are having with it. And still no one offers any solutions.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
It's not just this ROM it happens with at least two other ROMs I know of. People do like AOSP browser and others like Boat.

People can make their own choice. I don't think it's a deal breaker personally. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] sparksco:
No but it seems it is for a lot of people on this thread and the nexus 4 thread. This and some kernel things are killing development of this ROM. Hope people are happy now.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] xpri:
having some problems with surfing in chrome, it just freezes randomly and reboots my manta :(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
I haven't experienced that.

I tried the Purity rom and that is another very fast rom with the aosp browser crash. Weird how it is just the Manta than is effected.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Manta is very picky with optimizations with the Exynos 5250 :P
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
It's a price worth paying imo. I just use the aosp browser and accept the occasional force-minimise.

:)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Here's a test kernel http://www.mediafire.com/download/1clhdy8rmkpwlhj/STS-kernel-manta-06-10-13-Test5.zip

Should fix certain things like governor etc. Also should be better on idle drain :D
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Cool, thanks. However we have already had a test 6 and this is test 5 and has quite an old date too. Did you just forget to change the name?

Also, re the browser issue, I have found that Chrome Beta works better than Chrome so for anyone concerned about the browser thing then I really think this is a good solution. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Yes. My derp.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Thanks, no problem, I will just rename it myself.

edit

I don't know if I am imagining it but it feels faster to me now. :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] hanspampel:
Not for me. I mentioned it a page back. I hope it were sorted out in future what causes the trouble. Same on Purity ROM.:(
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] Tennoh:
Using RC4 from full wipe. Excellent responsiveness with only major problem being Bluetooth doesn't turn on. Anyone else with this problem?
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
That's -O3 causing the issue I believe. I will do a build tonight which should release tomorrow that will be -O2. -O3 has been causing issues lately on both manta and mako but more noticeable on manta.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] stonebear:
Just tried it and yes.
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] jarjar124:
Those flat lines :)
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] theultimatev:
Just came here to report lol I can't wait for that new build. My bluetooth keyboard needs use haha
[Nexus 10 Original Android Development] xpri:
will dirty flash to rc4 from a previous build cause any problems other then bluetooth?