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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
Sorry this post got lost in the mix after a certain individual tried to start drama again.

I plan on writing my full review either Wednesday or Thursday after I've gotten a few cycles in, and I'll include some info about this.

But to answer your question, it's really up to the user. Personally, I don't mind the size. I mean, it's not ideal. If I could get this battery life on the thin, stock phone, I would definitely pick that. But for me, the advantages of the extra battery outweighs the con of having a thicker phone. For me, the hardest thing to get used to was the weight, not the size. But that also has its pros and cons. The Pro is that I can actually feel my phone in my pocket, lol. There were times on stock battery that the phone was so light that it felt fragile. Of course a case can solve for that too. The Con is that the phone is a little on the heavy side. I notice it when working out with the phone in my pocket. My shorts actually look lopsided when I'm looking in the mirror (pumping iron, oooohhh...yeah... :p). Again though, the con is not enough to turn me away from the advantage of extra battery.

One thing to consider as well, and this will be my strategy one I get my full cycles in and review done, is that nothing is stopping you from switching back and forth between stock and the ZL battery. Personally, when all calms down and this battery settles in, I plan on using stock during the week, and the ZL on weekends since I use my phone so much more during the weekend. Before getting the ZL, I wouldn't have to charge my phone until late in the evening when I was normally just laying down for bed anyway. On weekends, I would sometimes have to plug my phone in the charger in the afternoon because of heavy usage.

Hope this post helps!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] SilentEYE:
just reboot your phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Gulanowski:
Can you tell me exactly what you did/turned off? I am having the same issue with google services and have tried everything I've read about online.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nemesis93:
Any ideas on when the 3k mah will be available?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Nasty_z:
That doesn't work.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] SilentEYE:
you seem to have non lati characters on your mp3 songs or broken mp3 files.

check your mp3s with this app and remove them.

also remove songs with bad tags like ç,ō,œ,ê and so on.

http://www.gromkov.com/faq/repair/mp3_validator.html
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Nasty_z:
Thanks friend. That's what I was looking for :D
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] JohnnyV14:
Batteries are in stock again.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
That's great info. Since I'm out of thanks at the moment, I'll make sure to hit you up when I'm on mobile. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rekka:
I am also having signal issues on my Verizon S4. My office already had spotty signal to begin with but I at least had signal. With the Zerolemon, there are often times where i have no signal at all. Switching back to OEM battery remedies the issue.

Other than that, battery life is awesome!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jlrogers:
I turned off all sync I didn't need in the Google account and everything with regards to location reporting. Then rebooted and all has been well.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nemesis93:
In case anybody wants to knoe about the 3000mah battery, Joey told me there have been some production delays with this battery. I'll keep you guys posted
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ponts:
I have will be modding a defender case today for a Seido battery. I'm considering ordering the Zerolemon but not sure if it would work? I would be very interested to see if anyone has tried it as well.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] SilentEYE:
And I am waiting for your review because I already ordered the battery from the usa to europe and I hope that the signal issue is not too heavy.

I realised on some users screenshots that may have no signal at all from time to time but I have fought better be turned off the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] coolpepp:
I rarely drop my phone but today I had my first drop. The phone dropped about 3 to 3.5 feet on the sidewalk. The impact landed on the corner and on the back. There was absolutely no damage to the phone or even the case. I am very impressed.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
Painted my white ZeroLemon cover

After being irritated by the white ZeroLemon battery cover getting dirty too quickly, I painted my cover blue using plastic spray paint. :D

Here is the result~!

I wish ZeroLemon would make a cover that has a kickstand and allows for holstering to the belt.

What do you guys think?

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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nba1341:
Huh? it says they are available I just bought one

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXZHYPO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wavrunrx:
oh nice; thanks for noticing :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] devindra1242:
Nice! How did you do this?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
Before painting, I washed it with dishwashing soap to remove dirt and any oil residue. I didn't sand because the surface is already smooth. Then I just sprayed it with a can of Krylon Fusion for Plastic spraypaint, color Patriotic Blue. I applied 3 coats (2 light coats + 1 medium coat).

I waited 15 mins in between the light coats. After spraying on the medium coat, I let it dry about 2 hrs before touching the case.

I'm gonna pop my phone in there after letting the paint cure for at least 24 hrs.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] coolpepp:
please let us know how it feels. Does it feel smooth or is it at all grippy?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nemesis93:
Just placed an order on the 3000mah battery. It's available now.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Orical:
You should have gone with the 4500 that's the mistake I made with my S3 and ended up needing the bigger one but it depends on how much you use it, I'm on ingress so it kills the battery quick.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oohaylima:
How come you didn't get the 7500 for that game? Damn game requires a lot of juice.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nemesis93:
Which 4500 battery?

I got the 3000mah to have a slim extended battery apart from the fact that it was only $12.38 shipped. Now I have a stock battery and an extra battery in case I want to keep the phone slim and light. But, I do plan on also purchasing the 7500mah version soon to use on the weekends.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ponts:
Order placed for 3000mah, hopefully it actually is stated mah.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
I just placed my order for the 3000mAh battery as well. For $20 shipped, that's a pricey cell relative to competitors, but at 15% higher capacity than stock (or an Anker), it's a no-brainer.

I'm excited, and a little cautious / skeptical until I have it in my own hands to verify on an mAh test setup. Energy density is energy density, and I have trouble understanding how a third party could exceed the energy density constraints that someone like Samsung is subject to at the factory.

Nevertheless, they'd be crazy to put their reputation on the line over a $12 item. So I'm hoping there's something to this claim of +400mAh capacity.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
As you're probably aware, ZeroLemon uses a TPU case for their 7500mah battery, meaning it has a slight rubbery feel with good grip and not slippery at all. With the 3 coats of paint added on, the case looks smoother visually but still feels grippy. If the stock case had a "grip factor" of 8, let's say, with the paint it is now 7.7. :)

I'll report on the paint durability once I pop my phone in over the weekend and start using it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] 5oo:
how long will last 3000mAh?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wavrunrx:
did you mean 7500 ?

where is this 4500 mAh battery..
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mrbro0ks:
Maybe he means the Seidio 4500 battery?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
That's one of the most misleading questions when it comes to batteries in personal electronics like smartphones that have such vastly different use patterns from person to person. Or perhaps to be more fair to you, ANSWERING that question would be misleading.

I think the best answer anyone can give you is that a 3000mah cell will last 15.38% longer than the stock 2600mah cell :)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] 5oo:
i know well when you go with 2600 almost whole day with moderate usage so with 3000 it could be whole day?

i know its hard to tell cuz everybody using their phone different way..

so which battery would be best to buy it??? 3000 or 7500?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nemesis93:
Depends on your needs. 2 slim batterys that work with the stock cover or one large battery that lasts longer.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
I bought both, lol. I've had the 7500mah for a little over a week, but my plan all along was to use the 7500mah on weekends and a slimmer batter on week days since I don't use the phone nearly as much during the week. For the $11.99 price for the 3000mah (which should equal about an extra hour on screen time), I couldn't refuse that option. Plus I've never used NFC and don't really foresee having a need for it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
Exactly the same thinking here. I ordered my 3000mah battery last night and I cant wait to try it out! I can't believe I'm so excited over batteries~ LOL
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] frrlod:
Don't feel bad, I'm pretty damn excited as well.

Are you guys saying the 3000mah doesn't support NFC?

Also, are you convinced it will last longer than stock as opposed to the ****ty 3300mah ebay batteries?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wavrunrx:
Are you guys saying the 3000mah doesn't support NFC?

---> Yes; it does not support NFC

Also, are you convinced it will last longer than stock as opposed to the ****ty 3300mah ebay batteries?

---> Yes; for sure ;)

if its advertised as stock size; and over 3000 mAh and not made by ZeroLemon, Anker, Sedio, or Hyperion i would not believe a word of it !
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
Regarding NFC, a bunch of the cells that actually claim to support it, don't. I've bought a couple sets of NFC cells for the S4 that actually contain the NFC antenna, visibly, yet still don't work. So I wouldn't put a lot of stock in the claims of any third party vendor that they work with NFC, at least not right now. There are even a few reviews that say Ankers NFC may not work with some S4s.

Regarding battery life of the 3000mah cell, this is a question with a binary answer. Either it is really 3000, in which case it will last longer, or it isn't 3000, and it won't. It's a testable question that we'll have a discrete answer to shortly.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ponts:
Just to confirm that my Seido 4500mah for my s4 works perfectly with nfc. Get what you pay for I guess as it wasn't cheap.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] drenco:
Right my ZL battery arrived for my S4 today installed it switched it on and it had 68% battery so i tested the ringtone volume as we all know that on the S4 when your phone is on a surface and the phone rings its quiet until you pick it up and unblock the speaker, now ive found though with this battery & case installed when the phone is on a surface and when you go to pick it up the volume NOW remains the same unfortunately the sound quality has deteriorated considerably i'd say it now sounds really very muffled/muted and lower in volume than when the phone has been picked up from a surface with Stock battery & case shame really, SO yes the phone is louder when lying on a surface with ZL/case but quieter than stock phone when picked up if that makes sense also it always sound more muffled.

Question i read that your meant to 12hr initial charge then run it down to 2% before you recharge again BUT i always thought that these types of battery should not be allowed to run down that low seems strange to me what procedure is best ?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] vlad2277:
As far as I know, from all things I've read, when your battery runs down and phone shuts down, your battery is not really 100% empty. So it's very safe, and would charge battery better. I've did this hundreds of tines in many phones and battery was running very nicely.

Niw, when I received new battery, I've used all charge, then charged in for 12, just as precaution.

Now my battery charges fully in about 6 hrs, on stock 2amp charger. It guess from 0 to 100 in 4hrs, then after 2hrs, I get full notification. Use app calked BatteryBot Pro to monitor usage and charging. If you like, try it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
I can state with certainty that running the battery to 0%, or 2%, etc, isn't actually running the lithium ion cell inside the battery to zero. Each battery has a protection circuit inside of it that shuts down the battery at 2.5V.

So when your phone says it has 2% left, it's really saying that it has 2% of its "above 2.5V" capacity left. Roughly speaking, that means the cell voltage is about 2% of the way between 2.5V and 4.2V on is discharge curve (although that's not a perfect simplification, because voltage drop isn't linear throughout discharge).

Long story short, you can't over discharge a removable smartphone battery, because they are protected cells.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Claribelsmith:
though i remain in want of good back up from a battery and i always see the same feature more than others .. going to get some favorable responses of it efficiency to see how helpful it's to my S4..
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] vlad2277:
Yes, that just adds to what I've said.

I've checked the logs in battery app, and according to them this battery has protection even higher that minimum, it shuts down just over 3.5 volts.

That's why on thus battery you keep getting power spikes, that some apps even recognize as charging cycle.

The phone keeps recalculating voltage left and adjusts remaining battery percentage.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] 5oo:
which batteryt is best to buy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXZHXTG or http://www.amazon.com/warranty-Zero...&qid=1372307857&sr=1-1&keywords=zero+lemon+s4
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
No, I think the battery itself discharges down to 2.5V. If it cut off at 3.5V, you'd be missing out on roughly half the cell's capacity. They wouldn't do that. If anything, they push these cells a bit lower than is generally optimal, they're not conservative with low voltage cut offs in portable consumer electronics.

I believe you though. Probably what you're seeing is the voltage after internal boost circuitry within the phone. There would be a boost / buck regulator of some sort inside the phone to bring the supply voltage up to a usable figure when the lithium ion cell drops under 3V, or 3.3V (or whatever is needed internally within the phone). My guess is that the battery monitor takes a reading after the boost circuit.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rushco:
2x 2650mAh Battery + NFC + charger

http://www.amazon.com/ZeroLemon-NFC..._22?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1372318166&sr=1-22

Here is 1 battery but none available at this time.

http://www.amazon.com/ZeroLemon-NFC..._37?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1372318168&sr=1-37
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] DonnieDio:
I had no idea NFC was dependent on the battery, thought it was in the phone itself. Oh well I don't use it anyway so I think I'll look at the 3000mAh version. Is it available anywhere yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] 5oo:
which one is better to buy this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXZHXTG?tag=viglink121875-20 or http://www.amazon.com/ZeroLemon-NFC...8&qid=1372318166&sr=1-22&tag=viglink121875-20
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] abnormal1379:
3000mAh version doesn't have NFC.

2650mAh version has NFC.

It's a matter of "do I need NFC or not?"
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
Maybe there is an obvious answer I'm missing, but why would anyone buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXZHXTG?tag=viglink121875-20

$26.99 for (2 batteries + charger)​

When they could just buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXZHYPO/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

$11.99 for (1 battery + charger)​

But buy a QTY of two, for $11.99 x 2 = $23.98, and then end up with 2 batteries + 2 chargers ???
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] alphadog00:
It is not really that NFC is dependent on the battery, it is that the battery has an antenna extension.

I bought the OEM wireless charger back cover and it has an NFC antenna extension built in, so i should be able to use batteries without the NFC antenna, but i have not tried.

If someone wanted to remove the antenna from an NFC battery and connect it to the NFC terminals (the other set, not the wireless set) - they should be able to sue Non-NFC batteries, but then they could just attach the antenna to the battery too.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] owler:
The charger that zerolemon provides - is that an external travel charger unit?

If not, is there any recommended travel charger that I can use with the 3000 zerolemon battery?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] thereal2x:
I'm pretty sure the 11.99 one is battery only. The one for 18 is one battery and one charger. It's a typo I'm pretty sure but in the description it does say it comes with battery only
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] drenco:
Ive read that having this battery installed does affect signal strength/reception but at my home i always get H+ symbol in the status bar and after my first day with this battery installed i only ever get the G symbol which is the GPRS network so to put that into context my network CAP the speed at 4MB on H+ but this G only gets 0.4mb so as i mentioned in an earlier post about the sound muffled quality with this battery/case on and now this serious drop in signal quality im seriously questioning my purchase at the minute, will continue for another week to see how the signal fairs in different locations but if not i'll probably have to sell it as it at the minute to detrimental to the phones performance. :(
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
Hope it gets better for you. I just think it's weird that this has only happened in a couple isolated cases. I haven't had issues with either sound or signal.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Gulanowski:
How much screentime would you estimate it takes for you guys to lose 1%? I'm not talking about taking your total screentime and dividing by 100, but actual usage. I find I drop 1% every 3-4 minutes the screen is on, which seems lower than the rest of you and about on par with what the stock battery gave.

Overall my stats aren't very impressive. For instance, currently i have been off the charger for 5hr, 5min with 1hr of screentime and I'm down to 83%. No google services drain since I turned off location services either. I've also noticed a slight drop in reception too.

My initial impression was positive but now is so-so at best.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oscarthegrouch:
Will this battery fit and charge in the Samsung external battery charger?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] devindra1242:
I spray painted my white case with black plastic spray paint. It came out pretty good.

Also for those curious, the MIME ghost glass screen protector fits with this case.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
I sure hope that's not the case. I just double checked my Amazon receipt, and it's luckily right in the item description:

"ZeroLemon 1x Samsung Galaxy S4 3000mAh Battery + World's Fastest Battery Charger with USB charge port"
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] silkshocker:
s4 active

would this fit the s4 Active?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] drenco:
I have just finished my first day of using this battery i woke up took the phone of charge and now after 15 hrs of me being awake and playing around and have just found this really good app WidgetLocker so that took some time setting up anyway ive used 2.2 hrs of screen time (app,games,internet) 1.5hrs of calls wifi on most of the time brightness @ 95% and my battery now says 71%. So far it seems to be every bit as powerful as its reputation states, gonna REALLY struggle to kill this battery in a day (from when you wake up till going to bed and put it on charge) i think, which means i can use the phone how i want when i want and make it through to bed time. However i do find the case that comes with it to smooth and slippery in my hand seems that grip is not the best to be fair would of preferred something alittle more clingy or textured.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wavrunrx:
clingy ? NO.

more textured ? O.K.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] drenco:
Just curious it says for a first charge should be for 12hrs then run it down to 2% and charge again question is do i charge it for another 12 hrs or just until its fully charged this second time ? ps my usage i got from my first charge total time was 33hrs of which 4 hrs talk time, 13 hrs screen time 3 hrs was gaming the rest fiddling about and internet and WIFI & GPS was on all the time with MAX brightness.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] kenny111008:
.......so am I the only one who thought they had to run the battery down to 2% first THEN charge it for 12 hours? Is this bad for the battery that I did that??
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oscarthegrouch:
Probably not.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rhd-android:
I recognize that you're probably inclined to take the manufacturer's advice over mine, but the frank reality is that any directions about specific "first charging routines" are nonsense.

These are lithium polymer cells. There is nothing mysterious about them. ZL hasn't invented a new battery chemistry. These are prismatic lithium ion cells. We know how that battery chemistry works, and to be blunt, you don't need to do any funky dances for their first charges.

If anyone is skeptical, this is a very easily researchable topic. There are a million and one articles bemoaning the fact that some battery manufacturers include directions with their batteries that don't apply to modern battery chemistries.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Wiidesire:
any first reviews/opinions on this battery?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] blackknightavalon:
Yeah, it refuses to die.

Sent from Spaceball One.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] neuronerd:
Just got this, I'm extremely happy with it!

When you'd expect 20% battery left, it's 75% =)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] abnormal1379:
After 4 cycles, the battery is performing very well.

Only quibble I'm having is the inaccuracy of the battery meter. It's useless with this battery.

First 20-30% seems to drop too rapidly while 20-0% seems to drop really slowly.

It's really annoying when the battery goes down to 5%, auto dimming kicks in and the battery lasts like it still had 20% power left.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wavrunrx:
i experienced this with the stock battery as well;

it seems the the first 10 - 15% drops off within 20-30 minutes, and then the percentage moves much slower after that.

its strange, back when i had a HTC desire, i experienced the same thing.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
After two weeks, I'm pretty happy with this. I'm averaging about 13 hours on screen time, which is close to topple what I was getting on stock, so no complaints here.

Getting my 3000mah this week too, so I'm going to use that on weekdays and the 7500mah on weekends.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
After using the OEM battery for the past week, it's good to be back on the ZeroLemon battery. :) Now I know that the paint has fully cured, I popped in my S4 into my painted ZL cover and it's much better for me now. No more hassle of frequent cleaning and worrying about grimes.

Here are the latest pictures~!!

I've used the phone like this for the past 2 days and so far the paint has been durable and nothing has chipped or smeared off. The stock white cover already offered some decent grip and the blue plastic paint has made the grip even "grippier."

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[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] NomisGnat:
tis extended battery is juz plain ugly
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] lambstone:
Your spelling is just repulsive.

Extended batteries were never designed to look pretty. That's not its purpose.

P.s. I suggest you pick up a dictionary if you don't understand proper English.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mjs2011:
juz?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] NomisGnat:
ahh...i see you agreed with me too that it is ugly....:D
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] optimummind:
It's not "pretty" for sure but I wouldn't say it's ugly either. It's not ugly to me, anyways. :p
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] abalosmusic:
Good batt :)