yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
where did you develop this kinda attitude? i said its nothing biggy and its not a matter at all, but dont you think you can send me a pm for the sake of courtesy? i dont own the copyright for it ,anyone can use it wherever they want,but its really a bad attitude to say bad . Is sending a pm that bad or hard? Anyway i dont have nothing against you using it, xda is a place to share (with due credits ;))
[Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
We are volunteers. We do this in our free time, and all of us are either students or have other day jobs.

So if a manufacturer constantly wastes our most valuable resource (time), screw them. Especially when other manufacturers understand that time is our most valuable resource and take efforts to reduce our use of that resource. The only reason some of the later Exynos4 models (like t0lte) got halfassed support was because most of the bashing our heads against the wall was done for that platform.

Until http://git.insignal.co.kr/samsung/exynos/android/platform/hardware/samsung_slsi/exynos4/ is as well maintained as stuff like https://www.codeaurora.org/cgit/quic/la/kernel/msm/ and https://www.codeaurora.org/cgit/quic/la/platform/hardware/qcom/display/

We do not have more than enough code for it. We have no code whatsoever at the platform HAL level for 5410, not even the halfassed crap we had for exynos4.

We wasted more than two ****ing years on exynos4 to still wind up with a half-working mess that is only partially working - no one wants to waste their lives on exynos5. Meanwhile, TI and Qualcomm-based devices can go from new device to stable in a matter of months thanks to CAF.

4.2 on Exynos4 took multiple entire weekends of work with lots of frustration. 4.2 on Oppo Find5 took one week of research/planning and one weekend of work to get almost to where exynos4 devices are now in terms of stability.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Akhil:
I completely understand your position and respect your decision.

Samsung said last year that exynos will go open source. What happened to that ?

Why samsung do this kind of promises when they cant fulfill it ?

Why they have turned their back to the developers?

And now there's a new rumour that samsung is considering snapdragon 800 for the note 3. This completely shows that exynos will never go open source.

Sent from OCTA CORE S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
Just another of a long list of promises that Samsung has failed to keep. Just like they were "working hard" on Superbrick for affected devices, only to throw a grenade in our faces with XWLPM by endangering the I9100 too (prior to XWLPM, all I9100 stock kernels were safe and would prevent anything from triggering Superbrick).

And they make these promises for marketing - for example, the Exynos4 source code promises were made just before the Note 2 was released - almost surely a marketing stunt to sell some more Note2 units to people who actually expected them to keep their promises.

In short: If Samsung ever makes a promise or tells you something is coming eventually, don't believe them. They have a LONG established track record of not delivering.
[Galaxy S 4 General] C-killa:
Has Samsung said anything about the source code release of Exynos 5(octa)??
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gillion:
Lol !

Don't hold your breath.

Samsung could care less about cm.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
Couldn't, not could.
[Galaxy S 4 General] klin1344:
WTF? I had no idea that Samsung's insignal was so out of date. The last git commit for any branch for exynos 4 was 6 months ago....compared to CAF being updated daily with good documentation. Now I know for sure that Samsung's "promise" to release source isn't really happening...all they did was spam social networks, talk, and brag about being "developer friendly" while completely forgetting the fact that they should actually do what they claimed.
[Galaxy S 4 General] naeib2000:
After hearing that i think i want to sell my octa and getting a snap. :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] eric-filth:
Good bye. :D

Enviado do meu GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
Well, if CM, AOKP and PA are your main aims with this phone then that probably isn't a bad idea. A quick comparison between the Original Development sections of each device shows your what I mean - there are already at least half a dozen non-stock roms for the I9505. But for people happy with stock both phones are superb.
[Galaxy S 4 General] naeib2000:
.I didn't know the differences until after i got my 9500 .I know that this device has a lot of potential but it's being caged by it's masters so to say . All i really want is cyanogenmod .I'm just wondering how long after hearing the reports of the exynos 4 series for the first time.

No need to say bye eric,unnecessary.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Beefheart:
I'm sure CM will make an appearance on the I9500 in some form eventually, but without the hard work of the CM team, there is a good chance it could be crippled in terms of certain features and stability. I remember how long it took for a stable CM to appear on the I9100, and that was with the full force of the CM team behind it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Akhil:
Exactly!

Just marketing strategy!

All they want is money money and only money and what they DONT want is the happiness of the customer.

Even Adam outler in his latest video of unboxing the S4 said that " Samsung where it is now is all of because of us ( the geeks ) " and he was really sad with samsung's attitude towards the developers.

Sent from OCTA CORE S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I'm not much into flashing, but from this url it looks like that CM for i9500 is now official https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_samsung_i9500/commits/cm-10.1

please rectify me if i'm wrong
[Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
Don't let those dates fool you - architecturally, despite a commit dated November 2012, the code is a mishmash of Gingerbread and ICS code. It is also barely different from what was available from Hardkernel and Insignal prior to Samsung's big promise made at the BABBQ. It's obvious they had no plans to deliver anything of real use - they KNEW developers were very unhappy with what was out there, but regurgitated code that was 99% identical to what was out there and called it a day?

Gingerbread allocated video and camera buffers from a special "FIMC1" memory pool.

Official ICS and later on all devices allocated these buffers from ION memory (which is the standard for Android graphics/audio memory allocation going forward)

Insignal source, despite being "ICS" uses FIMC1 memory. This means that it will only work with Insignal's old EGL blobs unless gralloc is reworked to provide ION memory - but if gralloc provides ION memory, open source hwcomposer becomes vsync passthrough placebocomposer.

Koush uses CM repos to build official ClockworkMod Recovery releases. If a device has no CM support, Koush will create repos that contain the minimum amount of stuff to build CWM recovery. (it happened with a bunch of the t0 variants too). codeworkx helped fix up obvious mistakes in the repo, but if you look at the commits, they are all administrative cleanups (renames) and things to support recovery, nothing more.

That repo has changes required to support Koush's CWM builds and nothing more.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Stevemeister:
This story still makes me f****** angry. They lied so hard to us (GS2, GS3, Tab 7.7, Note 10.1 owners). I got really excited that time and I believed they would actually provide source because their response on twitter etc. They even made a schedule with release dates and all, but all magically disappeared on the promised (stable) release date and all that was left was the same old outdated crap. Damn corrupted Korean firm, I'm glad I've got the snapdragon version this time (except for the audio chip, Wolfson chips are the best!).
[Galaxy S 4 General] Bulut.O:
I really hate the fact that the i9505 has CM and we dont... All my samsungs run CM... i really dont like any other rom than CM... And the worst part is that there is no light at the end of the tunnel...

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9500 mit Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 General] hotheabilly:
Thankyou :D

You're not like 9505 user "thesh*tty" spreading unnecessary comments around xda. actually umm I forget his name as he not around for a while, maybe he's dead lol

Sent from my iPotato
[Galaxy S 4 General] adichandra:
wow. i almost sell my i9500 and to import the i9505 myself. but i think im going to hold off.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
He is the [MENTION=391741]thes[/MENTION]hwaty. But whatever he is, please don't comment like this buddy.:rolleyes: He is what, you aren't him.;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] hotheabilly:
haha sorry, he's getting on my nerves..
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
Check his latest commits.. He is fixing calls
[Galaxy S 4 General] postall:
MIUI??? Official MIUI is based on stock rom.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
It's easier to port miui on an AOSP rom
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
Let's bombard [MENTION=381438]samsung[/MENTION]Exynos twitter account.. Ask them to release camera related sources / documentations at least..They do reply sometimes. Let's do the best from our side as well :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chuck Bartowski:
It 's the first time I compile a Cyanogen ... I need a little help.

I have done:

repo init-u-b https://github.com/dogaozkaraca/android 10.2 cm-

repo sync

And I have successfully downloaded the sources.

Now what do I do? I have try "breakfast i9500" but doesn't work.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
why do use source from doga?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
Better use intervigilium's source. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chuck Bartowski:
What should I use?

repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.1?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
repo init -u git://github.com/CyanogenMod/android.git -b cm-10.2
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chuck Bartowski:
Thanks :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
I guess you did not know that at first MIUI was totally based on CM. one of the very prerequists of miui support is that the device has CM support.

now they work from souce, yes thats right. but they still "borrow" a lot of stuff from CM.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
We don't need cm to get miui
[Galaxy S 4 General] Arjav23:
no

its better if v have CM

then it can be built with those sources or as a port, on CM itself
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
Build now and check.. Intervigil has fixed calls and routing apparently.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
We got some serious commits on Call routing.. If calling works, we'll definitely get alpha builds to test :D

Camera can wait!
[Galaxy S 4 General] matheus_sc:
I post im samsung exynos

"@SamsungExynos please release source of camera files of exynos 5410 for finish develop of cm10.2 in GT-I9500"

More people asking will help
[Galaxy S 4 General] vladtdr:
just did:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] kimishen:
Yes, i guess so. Because there is no miui rom for i9500 so far in miui official forum.

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How did you know that?
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
I wish they read it. If there was no CM, then this would have been the last Samsung device i would ever purchase.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AL_IRAQI:
I also tweet this I hope replay at one of us at least

Sent From my i9500 With Crash Rom

--------------------------------

ادعوا لي بالتوفيق في امتحاناتي

wish me good luck for my exams
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Why dont we make a hashtag? Already twitted Samsung Exynos..
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alberto96:
Seems that camera is fixed now in intervigilium vendor files.

https://github.com/intervigilium/proprietary_vendor_samsung.git
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
He just added the libraries.. He didn't make any other commits.. Don't know if it's fixed yet
[Galaxy S 4 General] 95mediatech:
I also raised my voice [MENTION=381438]samsung[/MENTION]Exynos

hope all goes well.
[Galaxy S 4 General] matheus_sc:
Now I think some build this week
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nasty_z:
Yeah, here's to hope :beer:

Sent from my GT-I9500 using --> Arrow ROM <--
[Galaxy S 4 General] mattdt:
well however long it takes... well done to the dev's and the other guys helping out. good to see what can be accomplished when people put their heads together.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
For anybody getting sync stuck at android_preload. Use this:

1. Add the following to your local_manifest.xml

2. If your /android_prebuilt is good and already synced then all is good but if not then cd to your repo folder and
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alberto96:
This was the bug (from logcat) :

E/HAL ( 2520): load: module=/system/lib/hw/camera.universal5410.so

E/HAL ( 2520): dlopen failed: could not load library "libexynoscamera.so" needed by "camera.universal5410.so"; caused by cannot locate symbol "csc_convert_with_rotation" referenced by "libexynoscamera.so"...

He added libcsc.so in latest vendor files, so now camera should work :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
Really appreciate you all for keeping up the spirit and especially the devs who started joining the project :) , one request from my side is that please dont release anything whatsoever before either @ intervigil or cyanogen releases some experimental version, it will highly piss them off, jsut a word of caution :):)
[Galaxy S 4 General] sergeroyal:
:D

+1.

Thanks for everyone who is putting even a small contribution in this project ! Keep it up!:good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
Ohhh, i am currently building with latest files. Let's see if it works.

Of course. Never.
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
+1

anyone who is so keen to try it out can always learn to build by himself. not so difficult in that sense
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
Guys, I will release a custom rom today.

ROM Name : Oz Rom

ROM Android Version : 4.3

ROM Version : 1.0Alpha

I have compiled rom :)

So, i will change some things :)

and i will release.

I mixed aosp and cm roms :)

Because i have some problems on aosp sources. i compiled half .

Current Bugs :

Phone Calls

Camera
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alberto96:
Phone calls and camera seems to be fixed in latest intervigilium source. Update your sources and try. Its useless to release an outdated rom right now
[Galaxy S 4 General] mattdt:
got some Java material so that I can teach myself and hopefully will be able to contribute to the community as some point...
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
not outdated and current intervigilium source have bugs.

Latest source doesn't work right now. It showing that error "rild needs by ril " or something like this..last ril fixes causes problems on source.
[Galaxy S 4 General] postall:
I use MIUI since buy my first N1 and know stock based miui better.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alberto96:
Well, commits are always tested before being pushed, so maybe that errors are caused by something else.
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
Hope they will read and follow this... +1
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Maybe this will help you choose:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44237373&postcount=599

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44301807&postcount=618

Both are with Perseus Kernel which you will find only for the I9500.

Also, don't forget that the quality is the thing that matters and not the amount of ROMs or devs for the I9500. Not to mention that even CM is coming very soon to the I9500 also, so you shouldn't worry about development.
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
If i change rom and release???

because i'm doing that.

and i asked moderators recognized devs and xda friends etc.

and they said : you can open thread and release your project. but YOU MUST GIVE CREDITS TO INTERVIGILIUM

so i will release an custom rom BUT NOT A CYANOGEN ROM .. I DELETED ALL CYANOGEN APPS. CM FILE MANAGER ETC. :)

and i sent e -mails about 10 .. but intervigilium never answered. also i sent pm too
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
It's still stealing others work, when you don't ask for permissions.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
I would suggest you to wait for intervigilium to state the process in next weekly :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nasty_z:
Well yeah but once all of this is done and cm is released, people would still be creating roms based on cm and releasing them at will. Besides, cm does state that it's alright to release the rom provided you give the right credits. Also, this is unofficial and the dev would state that in his rom thread along with proper credits. I think it's alright. Back in the s2 forums, there used to be devs who released unofficial versions of cm before release and they codeworkx ( cm maintainer of s2 ) hadn't said any thing.

Sent from my GT-I9500 using --> Arrow ROM <--
[Galaxy S 4 General] lch920619x:
maybe you dont read chinese so you dont know the history of MIUI well. I also know MIUI from my N1 time and yes, I can assure you it WAS based on CM. They admitted it officially.

Anyway this is not so relevant to the thread. I'll stop here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
carry On buddy.

Guys, what bala has said its 100% correct in case of any experimental CM rom or any unofficial CM rom. but Doga is talking about something diff. Means he mixed CM rom and AOSP stuff. CM willnt deny it even. Even Grarak buddy also in between the way of something new. We cant down anybody's work here. Plsss.. dont let xda devs to be felt offended here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
but i compiled from source. i'm not taking compiled rom from anyone or any work.and i will give credits to intervigilium for device tree.

and i tried talk with him.but he never checked e-mails ,xda pm's , google+ etc... i cannot talk with him.

completely i compiled kernel and rom..and samsung have this device tree already. and ,he is just copying files from another device trees.so he didnt get any permission from another device tree's developers. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] joelteixeira:
Intervigil and others contributing for CM on i9500 are like modern wizards. I admire you guys so much, keep up the great work.

Tapatalked from my Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 4 General] kimishen:
Agree
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
that will work if cyanogenmod team already release their first version, to be frank they have the bragging rights to release the first version of cm10.2 :) Dont forget 9500 didnt even had a proper device tree a few weeks back and its their efforts which took it to the stage currently it is , so unless you get a nod from [MENTION=1466193]cyanogen[/MENTION] or [MENTION=1815755]intervigil[/MENTION] , please refrain yourself from releasing it. ITs just a matter of time, wait till :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
i mean mixing aosp and cm and creating DIFFERENT ROM

I WONT RELEASE CM !
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
Hope you can read the word that is highlighted , making the proper working source is the difficult part ;) either it is aosp /aokp/paranoid or any derivatives of aosp , its the sources thats vital and those sources are not available just out of the box , it took hours and days by the devs to fix it , im not having any grudge against you but you can wait for some time mate :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
This is true. Since they did all the work, let them release it first.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
It's still intervigil's work and not yours. If you want to release it, go ahead. But don't forget we all warned you.

The creator of jellbam already banned from XDA because he used others work without to ask for permission
[Galaxy S 4 General] AL_IRAQI:
Stealing ?!!

He didn't hack Intervigil pc and steal every thing from it

Intervigil post it for public and he take it

He can post the rom and thank who help him like you and Intervigil

Sent From my i9500 With ☆★Crash Rom☆★
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
OK . I WONT RELEASE ANY ROM

wait for intervigilium about 1-2 month(s).

and i dont want steal anybody's work.so, if you think its stealing,so i wont release any rom for i9500. AND ON FUTURE ... NEVER.....

If i cannot use any device tree. IT MEANS NOBODY CAN DEVELOP ANYTHING EXCEPT DEVICE TREE DEVELOPER...

AND INTERVIGILIUM TAKING RIL SOURCES .AUDIO SOURCES , DISPLAY SOURCES , ETC.. FROM OTHER DEVICE TREES..SO WHY HE DIDNT GET PERMISSION FROM OTHER DEVICE TREE'S CREATORS . SO , ITS STEALING TOO.

He didnt create all sources by he's brain. So , he is stealing samsung sources and other developers work

thats the other side of cup

i never get a problem like this before on htc forums. and maybe i can sell my s4 and buy nexus google or htc devices...

I WONT DEVELOP ANY ROM ON FUTURE .

BYE BYE I9500 FORUMS

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what he did ???? he compiled a device tree and released??* hmm very nice..

so there's no reason to continue development on i9500 forums. for me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
XDA Rule!

http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81
[Galaxy S 4 General] Stevemeister:
You seem to miss the point of opensource device trees. Everyone can compile from their device tree and release unofficial builds if they want to.

That doesn't depend on a green light from the makers of the trees. If they wanted the bragging rights of the first release they would have kept the trees private and open them after the release of their first build.

Look at cm10.2 for the i9505, all unofficial releases from guys other than the official cm device maintainers.

Important thing is to provide proper credits to CM.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
Yes, but intervigil and CM deserves to show it first because they did all the efforts. It's not illegal, it's just unethical
[Galaxy S 4 General] doga.ozkaraca:
but its not intervigilium's work....

its other developers and samsung's work.

INTERVIGIL JUST ASSEMBLED PARTS OF DIFFERENT SOURCES..

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so i didnt release cm ...

thats why im creating different rom.

i said before ... i wont release cm , cm project is intervigilium's project... i wil lrelease different rom

look at the my aosport rom thread last 2 page.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
Nope, you may know pac man rom?

He just used their work named it JellyBam, themed it and added some features.

But all without to give credits and ask for permission
[Galaxy S 4 General] iamsachin:
Chill down bro :) :) ... It's a matter of a day or two. Since he fixed most of the things, let intervigil release it. After that let's Customize the crap out of it and release the ROMS :P :P.

There is no stealing in open source. It's just that let's honor hours of work that he has done. You or I couldn't have done it.

2 years back there was a guy called Coentje44. He was a minor developer in the then small TeamHacksung with xplody and cody. He released an unfinished ROM. Nobody liked it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rgshah3:
He put a lot of effort doing that! Let him release his rom! And 1 minute after that, release yours!

I'm saying so cauz he might get angry and stop the development for our phone! We will have no one to fix the problems and release a stable build for a long time
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nasty_z:
According to cm, you can release roms based on cm provided you give proper credits. Intervigilium is a part of the CM team, ergo it's alright for doga to release his rom.

Again, this would be unofficial and the fact that Intervigilium is the one because of whom this has been possible should be shown clearly in the new rom thread.

If all this is done, I don't think it's a problem to release the rom. Also, people would definitely be more excited and happy to see the official cm rom come out, this would be but just an early experimental unofficial build. If we can create it ourselves by using the cm sources, then releasing it by showing proper credits is just saving other users from the trouble of compiling the rom. It's a little confusing but I think it would be okay..

Sent from my GT-I9500 using --> Arrow ROM <--