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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
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I didn't use my phone as much yesterday but wanted to post this. I'm still currently on CleanRom 1.0 as I'm still getting the best battery and never had any lag to begin with. I am still tweaking things for better and better battery. This is 2 hours of screen-on time after 7 hours and only used 26% battery so thats on pace for almost 8 hours of screen-on time. No wifi but did bluetooth about 50mb of apk's to a friends phone. Just out and about.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] williamweaver:
I get 18 hours, 49 minutes average battery life according to GSAM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
GSam says i get 1day 17hours but that's based a lot on idle time. My idle time on CleanROM is about .25% battery drain per hour. What's your screen-on time? I usually get around 6-6.5 hours per charge.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
On a scale from 1-10, I'll compare the different phones I've had to judge the S4 based on the same type of usage.

Droid - 9

Droid X - 9

HTC Rezound - 5

Note 2 - 10

Galaxy S4 - 8
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ktklein72:
Wow gsam only gives me 14.5hrs on average. I'm stuck on stock, unrooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bernoulli72:
Coming from a HTC Thunderbolt anything that lasts more than half a day is great in my opinion. I can usually get a full day 16-18 hours with light to moderate usage without trouble. I typically run Hyperdrive or Jellybean TW.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
lol i had the droid x and it wasn't as good on battery compared to the GS4. I'm very shocked you gave the GS4 the 2nd lowest battery rating of them all. Not sure how you can get better then 4-6 hours of on screen time (depends on who you ask) with a 5" hd display on a stock battery. Shocks me a bit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
They were 3g phones so they lasted all day :-/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
yeah im taking that into consideration, on my Bionic if on 3g it would last way longer then my droid x though... Just trying to compare apples to apples, that's how i was looking at it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DarkMenace:
32GB S4. Nothing is frozen yet as I haven't had the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] wf-17:
Barley getting my phone to 12- 14 hours daily

Even though I don't use most of the features!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
If you have google services taking up a lot of power, then you need to remove location services and you'll gain quite a bit of battery life.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] General Tso:
Android system seems to be draining my battery. Stock, Nova.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mcsdoode:
I typically get about 15 or so hours with about 6 hours of screen time. I think I'd see a huge improvement if the 4G signal here wasn't so weak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] General Tso:
Same here. I wish there was a way to turn off 4G.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Can you really not turn off LTE? My Droid Charge can, although it is pretty hidden in a menu.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] General Tso:
This is the only choice you get.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] najaboy:
Beat in mind that turning off LTE is not the battery saver it once was. Early LTE radios were far less power efficient than the one we have today and were their own separate entity on the motherboard. Furthermore, LTE was more of a novelty even a year and a half ago. Now that coverage is more widespread, the phone more often than not does not waste energy searching for a nonexistent signal.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lordunknown:
LTE On/OFF

Have you rooted your phone? There are lots of tools to turn lte on/off when rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tee00max:
Yeah once I turn location services off I noticed a dramatic change in battery life. Once wifi and mobile networks I'd unchecked you should be good to go.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arvin2007:
good
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Google Location Services bug was tied to Google Play version 4.1.6. If you are on that version of G. Play then update it to 4.1.10 and that fixes teh battery drain bug form Google Location Services. If you are still getting it or are seeing Google Play Services as a battery hog then just freeze maps and unfreeze when you need Maps for navigation.

Here is the link to download the Google Play store 4.1.10.... It was never pushed out, you have to manually downoad it and install it off your phone to up date it.

After doing this i have never seen Google Services in my battery stats again and Google System never goes above 2% or Android OS never goes above 5% in my battery stats.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] frankyjorge:
I get over 12 hours on heavy usage with the Hyperdrive Flash with it's optimized Kernel.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] reebz:
I can't find the link in your post.

Edit: Never mind. Google is my friend.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] equake:
Since the screen time is the main power draw I've heard that depending on content the battery life can very greatly since the AMOLED screens tend to draw more power with white colored content and draw no power during black content.

I would like to know about web browsing time in autobrightnesss mode?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] najaboy:
Even then you're looking at a hugely variable and subjective data set that is largely dependent on ambient light.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AliceBToklas:
My battery life is outstanding. At least for my use anyway. I suspect if I really tried I could go 2 days between charges. And I keep all data, GPS, etc. on always.

As always it all depends on your use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Sorry I missed the link for you. I was in meetings all day and just got around to checking the thread. the link is below.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
Yeah same here, today it was 74%, barely used the phone.

Is this part of the bug of play store 4.1.6? I am also getting abnormally high Android OS usage.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Girlsetsfire:
Hardware failure?

I had the same issie with my Galaxy S2: After several months of cautious use, the battery symbol starts to blink permanently, and the battery gets low very quickly (from 100% to zero in about 7 hours without phone calls or surfing). The smartphone works, the battery loads, but it seems there's a hardware failure, a reset had no effect. Anyone has the same problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Yeah most likely it is
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Are you guys stock? Mine is at 6%
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] General Tso:
I am. I updated the Play Store but I can't tell if it helped yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Hmmm you can try downloading GSAM battery from the market and see the processes under Android OS to narrow it down. Hope that helps
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
Yeah I am stock ME7... for now :(

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Just installed the .10 play store last night. Hope it helps
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
I installed the new play store, and enabled location services via wifi and again my google services albeit better, still take up 14% of the battery power, which is about 12% too much IMHO.

It's a fix from using 30% before, but still too much of a battery drain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fizzler73:
I had a problem with Google Services sucking up bandwidth and battery. A recent update on the play store seemed to fix that. I am getting great battery life now
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
After updating to .10 play android OS is back down to where it should be. Screen is highest while OS is sitting at 13% baxk down where it should be. So far much better battery than the last week since I got the update .6 pkay store
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
At the bottom of that page they link version 4.2.9. Do you think patching from 4.1.6 to that fixes the problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
It shouldn't, I am on 4.1.6 with no drain here
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Imprezive13:
Lately i have been getting Google Services 76 % what is that ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
Turn off your GPS, or if you do need to use GPS, don't allow it to be wifi enabled and disable automatic polling of google apps with the google settings application.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Imprezive13:
disable automatic polling new ? or im just missing where its located? I do look up a bunch of restaraunts and such when out of town so looking to not affect google maps results. but still decent battery life
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
that and Android OS having hi usage are linked to the botched 4.2.6 play store. You need to manually update it. Since I did this mine went back to normal at like 7-10%
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
There's a setting in the app called google settings. In the location option, uncheck Access Location.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 804Hokie:
I've come to rely on Greenify to get the most out of my battery life.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Yeah Greenify seems nice but i hate running an app to manage apps as they take CPU cycles to manage the app, which cause wakelocks. So to me that kinda doesn't give me t ebest battery.. If i can get my phone right on its own as it should be, then i have no need for apps like Greenify. I currently only use GSam and Wakelock Detector so just keep an eye on things. If something gets out of whack in there i know just what to look for and fix. Also, Clean ROM 1.0 so far is best battery life of any ROM to date.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] daffy113:
I'm doing much better on this phone then the GS3.

On the stock battery I normally get between 10-18 hours. The inexpensive ebay batteries do less well but they are still a great buffer.

The only time I've had problems was when I'm taking lots of pictures or in a bad reception area. Then I find I'll only get between 4-6 hours on a battery.

Is it bad that I run the batteries until they shut down and then put in a new battery I charged fully on an external dock charger? It looks like you guys frown upon that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Yeah running down the battery all the way shortens the life (less charging cycles) of the battery. Charging the battery with less then 25% routinely leaves the battery with 350-500 charge cycles. Conversely if you charge it when battery is above 50% you can get up to 1200 charge cycles. So it's really up to you if you let it drain all the way down. I charge mine when it's in the 60% range cause I have a hard time wrecking my battery. 2.5-3 hous of screen on time and in still at 65-70% battery with about 14 hour on battery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
I was under the impression it's better to have occasional full discharges and recharges to keep the battery from developing "memory".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
That is 20 year old tech. Only nickel cadium (ni-cad) batteries from the 80s and 90s have batteries that develop memory. These are lithium-ion batteries... No memory so no need for deep discharges needed
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
If that is the case why do these manufacturers ask for 4-5 full cycles of battery use before the battery is "broken in" and full capacity is achieved?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heystek:
I'm going to post two sets of screenshots. The first set is a standard work day discharge and the other one is a weekend discharge. During the weekend I don't use my phone very often so it gives a great idea on what the idle drawl on my phone is.

I am running Stock rooted MDK with some minor debloating and the stock kernel. I am in an LTE area and I am running wifi about 2/3's of the day. I leave GPS and Bluetooth on constantly. I have all of Samsung's features enabled (Air View, Gestures, etc.)

As far as syncing apps I have an Exchange account and Gmail that are both set to push. I am also running an app that polls my GPS location every 5 minutes and uploads it to the server.

The battery life on this thing just amazes me. On my Skyrocket I would unplug it first thing in the morning, and with light use, I would make it home from work at 30%.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
I will post this from Battery University. I think they are still talking about Ni-Cad batteries.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_nickel_based_batteries

Charging Nickel-cadmium

NOTE: For NiMH batteries, please read our Charging Nickel-metal-hydride article.

Battery manufacturers recommend that new batteries be slow-charged for 16 to 24 hours before use. A slow charge brings all cells in a battery pack to an equal charge level. This is important because each cell within the nickel-cadmium battery may have self-discharged at its own rate. Furthermore, during long storage the electrolyte tends to gravitate to the bottom of the cell and the initial trickle charge helps redistribute the electrolyte to eliminate dry spots on the separator.

Battery manufacturers do not fully format the batteries before shipment. The cells reach optimal performance after priming that involves several charge/discharge cycles. This is part of normal use and can also be done with a battery analyzer. Early readings are often inconsistent and a battery may require 50–100 charge/discharge cycles to reach the best formation. Quality cells are known to perform to full specifications after only 5–7 cycles. Peak capacity occurs between 100–300 cycles, after which the performance starts to drop gradually.

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Your issue is probably the GPS on constantly and having it poll it every 5 minutes!? I mean you phone never will sleep that way. That's battery murder. Not to mention all the Samsung stuff on as well. Also make sure your Play Store version is NOT 4.1.6, is if it then google Google play store 4.1.10 and download the apk and install it. You can also download an even newer version of the Play Store but make sure you're off of 4.1.6
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heystek:
I apologize for any confusion, but if you take a look at my screenshots I'm actually getting some amazing battery life despite the frequent polling time on that app (It's a work requirement).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
This site will explain in the advantage and disadvantages of the NiCad battery as memory effect.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/Nickel_based_batteries

And This page will say in the advantages that Lithium Ion batteries need no deep discharge since it Develops no memory.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/lithium_based_batteries
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DarkMenace:
My recent battery drain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
I get better battery life than my S3 and the S4 so far has the least standby battery bleed of any Android phone I have owned. I have all the new sensors turned off and only turn bluetooth, wifi or gps on when needed. My Razr and S3 bled a lot more in standby, but par for the Android course. All devices stock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Aardvark Barber:
Using Eclipse TW Edition I just got 27 hours on a single charge with 2.5 hours screen on time. Awesome!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kurpaige:
running jellybeans ROM is easily go over a day before charging. Lots of phone calls and screen time creating a lot of colornotes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] schmoli:
I'm loving eclipse too, mine isn't that good but I've been lazy lately by not disabling google now and some other syncing things. I sure do love that ROM though!

I'm usually getting 3 hours or so screen time with lots of bluetooth podcast streaming during the day.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nicholi2789:
Getting insanely good battery life. This is what I'm getting running Beans build 5 and the Latest KT747 kernel. Best I have gotten even compared to my S3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bills742:
Google services magically disappeared with no change to apps or settings. Must have been something on Google's end causing the huge drain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zero26800:
Can anyone second this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AvengedZombie:
Totally stock setup.

Minimal/Moderate use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
You sure you didn't just turn of location services for wifi.

Or you didn't just turn off location polling by google aps in the google settings APP?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bills742:
Nope, didn't change anything at all.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jacob2kD:
I'm currently been using a Onite® 5200 mAh(NFC) Battery for Samsung Galaxy S IV / S4 heres the stats

can buy here http://www.amazon.com/Onite-5200mAh...pell&keywords=onit+5200+mAH+samsung+galaxy+S4

has NFC for those who may wonder

P.S. part of the usage was 6hrs of GPS why at gym using GPS based work out app
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Harleydroid:
I have all location services off and no gnow. Does any one know how to have the WiFi stop scanning when its already secured to my network. That's gotta use some battery. I turned off notify me of networks option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
What version of Google play services do you guys with no battery drain have?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bills742:
3.1.59
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Harleydroid:
Google play version 4.2.9. Nitro's inverted. No g services drain
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
4.1.10, I had to manually download it and install the .apk. Even if you are not rooted you can do it. You just have to check the "unknown services" in the developer menu, find it in the built in file explorer and install.

I went from having Android OS running at 75% and giving me like 10 hrs back down to like 7-10% giving me 2 days worth of juice. I think any versions works, it was the 4,1,6 version that was botched with the bug.

LINK

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Phatdawg:
I updated my google play store to 4.2.9 but still have the google services problem. I haven't made an effort to turn back on location services and look into it with GSAM to see if there's a specific component that's wakelocking the cpu.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
I read on a sites to reboot the phone after install then use google maps or google earth to set things up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AvengedZombie:
Running Google Play version 4.2.9 here as well. Google Services has only used 3% of my battey drain so far. Probably because I used Maps yesterday. I'm 21hrs 17min in to the usage of this battery cycle and still have 58% charge left. Minimal usage.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cgdoc519:
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This is crazy. Only difference was I installed juice deffender ultimate. That made all the difference for me. 2 hours of screen on time as well. Stock ME7 rooted. Ohh and I took off greenify and replaced it with juice defender.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bills742:
My drain from Google services went away and now came back with no change in settings!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Meh... Juice Defender is more times then not a battery drainer cause its always running in the background. I never found it to be good on any ROM i used. Bionic: CM10.1 Liquid Smooth, Carbon, PACman, Icarus or GS4: Clean ROM or Hyperdrive... nothing. I guess it's good if you can't remember to turn things off when you don't need them like wifi and Bluetooth, but that shouldn't be hard to remember most times.

Best thing i can tell you is learn to turn off background data on individual apps that you dont have to have retrieving background data and turn off syncs like email and such or let them update and longer intervals. I even freeze maps until i need them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Umm I was asking about Google play services not the play store. Bills got it right, the 4.2.9 and 4.1.10 are play store versions.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
My Play Services just patched itself to 3.2.25 and the battery drain is back :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] othersteve:
Funny, I am running both that version and the latest Play Store version and mine's at just 4%.

Not sure what's up
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djcyph:
my services is only running @ 2% but i still have pretty bad battery with hyperdrive...

any tips? different kernel?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Harleydroid:
Here's my latest stats. I put the phone on to charge while doing some flashing today for about 30 minutes. Using greenify and running Eclipse 1.5 and team blackout updater. I have GPS off, location reporting off and no gmail syncing. I also don't use twitter or Facebook so that probably helps without those syncing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
I'm on 3.2.25 and no battery drain at all. G Play Services don't even use 1% battery sa it doesn't register on my battery stats. So I looked at Gsam and G Play Services is at 0.4% on 14 hours on battery.

So it is likely not G Play Services causing your drain.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ddemlong:
Same here, running 3.2.25, but battery is perfectly fine. Its actually really good, I am charging like once every 2-3 days and getting about 2.5-3hrs of screen time. I am using Play store 4.2.9. That might have something to do with it. I was having issues too originally on an older play store it was the Android OS, not Google services like most people were stating. All I ever did was update the Play Store.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Kchitown1977:
Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Cyan Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] borsin:
Screen on 5h 31m - Awake time 41m, could be improved.

Moderate usage, mostly 3g texting, browser, tapatalk, twitter and facebook

CM 10.1

Chronic kernel underclocked to 1.3 ghz

Autostarts

Tasker set to screen off / data off

TB unused apps froze and debloated

Auto brightness off

Auto sync off

Stock battery
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] all3rd:
Seems to be good but wished I could use boatloader and try cleanrom instead if only that target employee didn't download the OTA update when I first got the phone smh.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
I have been to lazy to charge my phone lately I'm surprised I almost got 3 days out of it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sytech55:
Plugged my I'm for few minutes when I was in the car. Other than that, I runs all day. That's good enough for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] schizyk12:
My battery life on stock rom very good, but tomorrow my phone is dead ;< I brick him. But maybe 10h only play of games but screen light 0% must be.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kaos2569:
Running BoneStock 1.1.3 with zero issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cwbcpa:
I'm rooted and running Hyperdrive 8.1 with Nova Launcher. I have removed all of the Verizon bloat and some of the Samsung apps. I have been running Hyperdrive for about a month off and on and my battery life is definitely better than before I rooted by at least 2 hours a day. As long as I get 12 hours I don't complain though. I have a spare battery and it's never been an issue with my S3, Note 2 or the S4.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Battery life is better on the S4 than it was on my Droid Bionic with the extended battery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
Stock rooted, removed a lot of bloat and Samsung apps.

Can you tell when I got out of school? :P

Sent from Navi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xmguy:
Stock (rooted). Running latest OTA (ME7) with power saver off and LTE always on.

Normal usage. A hour or 2 of music. 3 hours of display on.

This is why I've picked up a second OEM 2600 mAh Samsung battery to throw in when this battery dies. I might freeze some of the Samsung apps when I know what I CAN freeze without FCs.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
I froze every single Samsung apo with no FC.

Sent from Navi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hackweed:
This is the first smartphone that has actually given me good battery life. Compared to the OG droid days a few years back and the gnex it is leaps and bounds better. Consistently 15+ hours with 3-4 hours screen on time. Stock VRAUME7 rooted with gesture stuff turned off and most bloat removed / disabled.