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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
My google play services is using 33%, kind of crazy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] najaboy:
What do you have checked in location services? This is commonly seen if you allow location to be determined via WiFi and network.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mutelight:
Having come from a Note II where I was spoiled by the battery life thanks to its giant battery, I am actually very pleased with the battery life of the S IV.

From my experience thus far, it is definitely better than my HTC One.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jgm3590:
drain issue

i am also having a battery drain issue i am rooted with aokp rom on it i have the s4 at&t and it just seems to die quicker than my note 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] geoff5093:
1.) This is the Verizon S4 forum.

2.) Of course it will die sooner than the Note 2, it has a smaller battery...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SonicJoe:
I'm actually shocked too. I came from a Droid Bionic with an extended battery, and this is about the same performance (maybe a little less, but its hard to tell because I'm still breaking the new device in).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
I'm having great battery life as well. Yesterday I was at 19 hrs off charger with almost 4 hours screen on and still had 38% left. Can't wait to see what this can do with a tweaked and debloated Rom. Huge difference coming from htc rezound, the battery hog of all battery hogs. Can average 50-60 minutes screen on time per 20% of battery on the s4 which is Damn good.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
I'm not sure I could get that sort of life, screen time wise. What are you guys doing while the screen is on? I'm losing life at a rate of 3.5%/hour right now just letting it sit here, not sure what's using it all of a sudden.

This was my usage when I plugged it in tonight:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
My usage mainly consists of tapatalk, Facebook, alot of texting, and web browsing. I don't let anything sync automatically either because I could really care less if I see someone's status update the second they post it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] larry_thagr81:
I understand that, I guess I should have mentioned something like all other things being equal. There are just too many unknown variables to get into that much detail. Feel free to provide more details with regards to the other factors you mentioned above.

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There are too many possibilities that could be affecting your battery. What type of location features do you have running under location? What type of motion features are you using? Do you have battery saver mode on? How often do your weather and social networking applications update? How is the cellular signal strength? There's an app on in the play store called wake lock detector that can provide you with an idea of what's keeping your phone from entering deep sleep.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
I think this phone's major downfall as far as battery is concerned, is all the BS bloat ware running in the background. But even then, my battery life is insanely good unrooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JaeKay:
What font are you using, it looks pretty cool
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Evocm7:
Finally it died!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
I think the main thing last night was for some reason I was only getting two bars of reception. I did have location services turned on so that's off now, I only use the QuickView feature and I think the one that keeps the screen off if you look at it, don't use battery saver, and weather only updates when I open the app. Ditto with Facebook as far as I know.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] EVOme:
ChinaCatThin
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
Something is definitely killing my battery. Only up for 4 hours and already at 51%.

Going to factory reset, go through all my app sync settings and delete apps I don't use
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] EVOme:
Do you have GSAM on your phone? That will find it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
Nope, i do not. I'll install it after fresh start.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] trmiv:
Seems to be pretty good to me. Of course I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus, so anything would seem good to me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jonasmckee:
letting it drain..

this also included about 30 minutes of the Giants vs A's Game via the Dish app
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
I installed Wake Lock Detector. I'm still not 100% sure what to look for, but it seems that GoogleMaps is eating something up. I'm guessing CPU wakelocks are what I want to pay attention to. What do I do to fix that without crippling the maps? The only thing I can think of is the constant location querying, but if I turn that off my phone has no idea where I am for GPS and it would be a pain having to enable that every time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mercutio5:
Easy to get through an entire day without even getting close to empty. Should be able to do two days of normal use without a charge.

Pretty good in my book.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
I have both selected, but I have had both selected in all android phones ive owned and never seen this, is it just something with the s4 that you cant have both enabled? Would you suggest just disabling wifi location?

Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
I hit 15 hrs yesterday with heavy use of Tapatalk and Snapchat, 5hrs screen time.

Sent from Navi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] borsin:
Google play services can be frozen with titanium backup along with play store when not in use. Play store is the only app I've found to be dependent on its services. Youtube and Maps (using gps, not location services) both give errors to turn on google play services but both work fine without it. I also turn all auto sync off.

Freeze at your own risk!

36 hrs standby with 5 hr 45 min screen time yesterday. It just keeps getting better!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
I disabled Google now after charging to 100 percent and 30 minutes in im already down to 14% utilization on google services, that should go down further as I use the phone. Hope they fix that, as I've never had Google now drain the battery on my other phones.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] got556:
Man I would try deleting cache in all google service apps and reboot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Harleydroid:
Had about 12 hrs of streaming music at work over 3g between yesterday and today. Slim Bean with KT kernel
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
Already tried that... I don't use Google now anymore but gonna keep watching. Looks like that was the culprit right now though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thesoldier:
Which version of the play store do you have installed?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
4.3.11, and over the hours google services climbed back up to 45% usage, so guess it didnt take care of it.

Now, since a lot of you saw the high usage go away at 4.3.10 and up, and clearing cache did not help, would a factory reset seem like the plan then? I dont want to, but if It solves the issue I am open to it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Do you use an app killer? That's usually an app that is starting and not locking onto your location. That's what I've seen anyhow. And an app killer will shut down apps, then they will restart in the background and look for location again, then keep doing it over and over. I leave all my location services on and have never had Google Services eat battery, unless it was from a app searching for location.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
No app killers here, haven't installed one since droid X days when it was realized they were not very useful. Anyhow, I did a factory reset and services is still over 40%. Battery does not seem to be going down fast though which is weird, but Google services should never use more power than this huge screen lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] beez1717:
I get a full days use even after I use Spotify and an emulator while going to work and back from work. That's way better than my old Xperia Play!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xmguy:
As the (new toy) usage wore down. I ended up getting this out of the battery. Not bad for a 2600mAh.

I average however about 12+/- hours on a full charge.

Sent from my (Verizon) Samsung Galaxy S4 using the XDA app!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Nwwolf1:
Why am I only getting like two hours screen on time? Rooted with liquidsmooth
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zregnier:
I am at 23% with 4 hrs 10 min screen on time. I started keeping the phone in power saver mode and it's worked wonders. Still runs really fast too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jfu:
How are you guys getting 15+ hours with 5 hour on screen times? I barely get 2-3 hours on screen at 14-15 hours. I greenified apps and froze some samsung bloat. Sync turned on with google now stuff. Using auto brightness. Any tips to get the great battery life everyone seems to be getting?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] michaelg117:
When I first got the phone I was getting the battery life you guys are seeing, now I'm lucky to see 13 hours with 2hr screen on time. I have apps greenified, sync off for everything, my data is usually off, but I don't keep power saver on. I'll do so today and see how it goes.

Sent from Navi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heisenberg1:
The most i've gotten is with beans rom(Stock Kernel). 1day 6hours with 5 hours screen time :o
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mateopase:
Can anyone explain how to stop the Google Play Services from draining battery? Any settings I should turn on or off?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hollovoid:
Turn Wifi/Network based location based services off, leave on Verizon's, you will still get fairly accurate location for weather apps/etc but the extreme play services drain will go away. Not sure how this bug is still an issue on this phone.. very disappointing they haven't fixed it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] whitedragon551:
Right now Im at 15% battery on 1D 13H 20M.

40% screen, 14% voice calls, the rest just mundane tasks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hondabomdc5:
im with you on that. I have like 2.5 hours of screen on time and im almost dead.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
I seem to have gotten much better battery life with an aosp rom vs tw. I noticed a trick to lengthy up times for me is just leaving it unplugged overnight
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] egore93:
This is my battery life. I'm running hyperdrive 9.1 with optimized kernel and am having killer battery life.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] neko66:
Bat Life

Pretty good
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] brizey:
Mine has been great, but I am the type that puts it on the charger while I am at my desk while working and I leave it on the charger on the counter when I come home, so I am a bad specimen, lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
9 hours up, 3 hours on screen and 14% left. Weird. Something doesn't seem right.

Do you guys have the motion stuff enabled? Air view?

What about brightness? Have it set to auto?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] EVOme:
I have all that on. Auto brightness
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
My phone must be on drugs
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xClementex:
I'm getting about similar stats unfortunately. Every motion thing disabled as well as airview and brightness on auto. Wifi, Data, Blutooth, GPS all off for most of the day. 11 hrs up 3.5 hours screen on and at 16%.... what am i doing wrong? Screen usage is 35% with Android System at 33% and Google Services at 18%
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
I never do auto brightness. It usually has it higher then need be so your screen will burn more juice in similar time frames. indoors i keep mine around 20% brightness and only if i need it brighter i move it. I mean if its web and other minor stuff why have it turned up?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] midnightzak:
Most features turned on, WIFI always on, brightness usually on 100% (though I've used auto as well from time to time), GPS/BT off, light to medium use throughout the day with the exception of Pandora which I use for about 4 hours per day. I easily make it through the day with a little less than half the battery left at the end of the night.

I charge every night regardless of how full the battery is, and sometimes during the day if I know I'm not going to use it for a while. Is this bad for long term battery life?

Right now, all things considered, I love the battery life on this device, it's whooping my EVO's battery life, thats for sure. I was going through two fully charged EVO batteries every day before I got the GS4...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
Maybe it has to go through some charge cycles or something. I know for a fact that the apps I have installed played a role with the battery stats. I went through every app, made sure I set the refresh rates to either a higher time or turned them off and it made a difference. I also did not freeze some apps such as watchon and some others. Having power saver turned on sure does make it drain slower though.

You guys on the stock rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
Stock ROM here, rooted and roughly 30 apps frozen.

To the guy with the wifi on and 100% brightness all the time must set his music and never turn the screen on cause no way hes getting through a day with that and still have 50% battery left.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] quockhanhxda:
it low battery after 1 days not charging. i play game, surfing web,...:D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] persom55:
Ktoon kernel set on pegasusq governor
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blazeoc:
Just over three hours of on screen time.

Not sure if that is good or bad. I do use it pretty heavily.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
I got to about 2 hours of screen time before it hit 50% today... third charge cycle. I'm going to give it a few more cycles and probably start a new thread to figure out what the hell I can do for better battery life. Looks like there's a total of 1h21m where it's awake without the screen being on, but the wakelock stuff didn't seem to add up to anywhere near that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sparatan117:
Did you try taking the phone all the way down to 0%, turn on->die, (repeat until doesn't start). Plug in and don't turn it back on. Charge to 100% and then turn back on. It should reset the battery stats.

I know that the battery is better than 2 Hrs to 50% because I played Plants vs Zombies the other day while being forced to watch a chick flick for about an hour and a half and the battery only declined about 10-15%.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] larry_thagr81:
Check out this thread here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2274046, I've provided a link to Android Police because there is an update for the play store available that addresses battery draining issues caused by google services. This battery drain issue was introduced with play store version 4.1.6. Within the settings menu of the play store, you can view your version build number down at the bottom to confirm if you might benefit from this play store update.

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You would need to enter into the settings mode of this app and include system services. Your google maps isn't the reason you have battery drain issues. If you include system services, you'll notice that google services or more specifically the nlp service is running constantly. I've recently within the past few days have been experiencing constant battery drain and have noticed that the nlp location service is keeping my phone from entering into deep sleep, which is causing battery drain issues for me. Even with all my location tracking services turned off, I still experience the nlp service draining my battery issue.

I'm currently in the process of testing out the play store version 4.1.10, which is suppose to address the google services battery draining bug.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
I had 4.1.6 and did this update. Well see how it goes, going to charge it up to full again and just let it do its thing for the day.

Just installed gsam battery Monitor and wake lock detector aswell.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] midnightzak:
When I'm listening to Pandora it is usually in my pocket, so you're correct, there isn't much screen on time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Diversion:
Here's a trick I use to truly drain the batt till the hardware voltage meter cuts me off, not the software..

When the S4 turned off based on no battery life, I reboot it into bootloader mode and let it rot.. Mine had a lit up screen for almost an hour before it decided to just shut off..

Then I let it sit over night.. Batteries tend to gain some charge back sitting idle.. I booted back into the bootloader and it sat there for about 5~ minutes before cutting off.. I repeated this process until it would no longer boot into bootloader mode.. Pretty soon it actually stopped even vibrating from holding the power button down. It was truly dead at this point :P

Then I charged it to 100% and will test my battery life. This will surely calibrate your battery percentage in the OS a bit better.. I always exceed anybody elses battery life doing this on all my phones. The only phone I can't force it turn on after the OS cuts it off has been my Note2.. It uses a different way to test battery voltage or something because it acts completely dead (no vibrations or attempts to even power up) after the OS turns it off.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sparatan117:
This makes me wanna find a way around that haha....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jacob2kD:
hi

yesterday was week since i have had gs4 heres screen shot of my battery avg run time after i removed all vzw bloatware and google plus. using standard 2600 mAH that came with phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
Hmm, doesn't seem to be running that long. I enabled the system services, that specific thing didn't even run for a minute throughout work today.

Not really sure what else to try other than running the battery totally down to re-configure it. I mean look at that screen on time, that blows. If I didn't know what everyone else was getting I'd be fine with it because it's longer than my X2 ever lasted, but if I'm already at 65% with less than 2 hours of screen time compared to other people's 4+hrs, something is going on. I don't understand how it's awake for 40 minutes yet nothing in that list adds up to those 40 minutes. It's also strange that if I don't turn the screen on it seems to discharge around 2%/hr. That doesn't seem bad to me, but with the screen on it falls on its face. No auto brightness, I have it set pretty dim.

On an unrelated note, what the crap is that icon up top to the right of the eye icon?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fu5ion:
Speaking of that crap eye icon, you might have found some of your issue unknowingly. That icon indcates that smart stay is on, which many people have found to drain battery pretty quick, especially with the screen on. Basically, once the screen timeout time is reached, the sensor comes on to gauge if you're looking at the screen or not. Either turn smart stay off (that would be best) or raise your screen timeout duration under display settings.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
Hmm, good point, just disabled it. I didn't utilize it much anyway. Still need to find out what keeps it awake all that time though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] najaboy:
Thus far there's been some excellent advice on how to permanently damage a lithium-based battery and shorten it's serviceable life given herein. HINT- deep discharges are the opposite of a best practice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mutelight:
I am glad you brought that up as deep discharges have been recommended a couple times in this thread. Deep discharges are definitely a no-no and the best way to keep your battery healthy is to plug it into the charger at least around 30% but the higher the better.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Gringosuave:
it looks like you are barely using it at all, your idle juice is almost equal to your screen-on juice
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
Sitting at 30% battery right now with 3 hours of screen time...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
yoy guys are getting so crazy battery life jeez. I'll probably barely get 3 hours screen on time like usual with every phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bobtrek:
I get over three hours of screen on time on average, i love this thing!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
For those of you with the great battery life,do you have Google latitude enabled to detect location and share?

Wake lock detector showed maps with over 500 wake triggers with fb app in second place
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Fu5ion:
Averaging about 15 hours per charge with 4.5 hours screen time and 45 minutes streamed music. Almodt all 4g, some wifi but barely.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
i'm at 30% rgiht now, 14 hours off charger, only 2 hours 12 minutes screen on time though :\ i'll probably barely get 3 hours. idk how you guys do it lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k4v2n:
is it normal for it to take a long time to charge the battery. my battery level went up about 7% in 30mins. i'm switching from having a thunderbolt and i know the s4 battery is larger, just not sure if that's normal. also can me using my nexus 7 charger damage the s4 battery? the nexus charger seems to charge my battery twice as fast.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
i noticed that too..but i'm rooted, and after i enabled fast charge, it charged up nice and quick.

using taht 2A stock charger should make it charge fast, too....and remember when qualcomm went on about how the new snapdragon processors all charge super fast?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
I'm rooted deodexed and it charges quick.... At least i think so
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
I've never seen a device charge as fast as the S4. I plugged it in last night when it was at 30% and after I got done reading for 30 minutes or so it was at 75%.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
got the phone Wednesday... idk not great not bad. I'll never get 5 hours screen on like some of you. i can't believe that lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BennyJr:
Fast charge works only when you're plugged into a computer's usb.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] badazprelude:
Mine is stock rooted and dont charge it but every other day
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] robthefive0:
Loving it!View attachment 2008707
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xxxxmarkxxx:
Great here.. loving this phone
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] CCoR87:
Using hyperdrive rom and lovin it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] GingerBeanSandwich:
yeah!

....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jayochs:
HOW.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kvswim:
I came from a DROID Charge. The battery was total crap, I'd get maybe 8 hours out of it before it ran away screaming for a new battery or to suck on a charger. But this...this lasts me 5 AM - 11 PM easily. And I'm one of those damn kids who's constantly on his phone! :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coderedpl:
Latitude, any1?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] midnightzak:
If the deep charge is so bad why does it seem to get recommend so often? Can someone toss up an informative link or thread on the subject?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] berfles:
You guys who are getting 5+ hours of screen time should post your settings, stuff like GPS/location settings, sync, all that stuff. I still don't see myself getting much more than 3 hours of screen time and I feel I have disabled everything I can stand disabling. I use GoogleNow a lot so the only location setting I have is the one Google uses, but everything else is disabled.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] robthefive0:
I get over 5 hours screen time. I used titanium backup to freeze a ton of boat. I also turned off all the fancy motion, sensors, screen animations, location services, Bluetooth unless being used, and i could get even more by using 3g only using phone info app.View attachment 2010619