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[Galaxy Note 3 General] vash_h:
I kind of like the stuff samsung gives me..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gideonMorrison:
What to do, what to do. Sell my Gnex now, get a new Note 2 or wait for moooooooooonths (july/august/sept/oct? for the Note 3 and keep my Gnex.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kremata:
Or it's an old habit lol, I used to hate TW and chase AOSP ROM like it was Megan Fox. Now TW is not the same since 4.1.2. So many cool and surprisingly useful features on TW (eg. The voice activated camera allows you to take pictures of yourself if you're alone and also help take more stable pictures cuz you don't have to press a button) that now I prefer TW. But they still have to work on the look
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Postal Psycho:
Wait for October, and keep your gnex anyways: )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FarReach:
I'm planning on getting the N2 in a couple weeks hopefully. Thought about waiting for the 3 but I been on my S2 since it came out and I think it's finally time for a change, I read the N3 might not drop until November and I'm way too impatient for that. If I do end up getting Note 2 I might cut my losses and sell it at the end of the year and upgrade if it really seems worth it, if not I'll wait until the 4 if they make one.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Crushader:
Definitely not worth it if Google does this to the next Note phone.

Look at the S4, powerful hardware and great camera, yet they throw in original Android with extremely feature lacking camera. This would totally be a waste of the good camera. Unless they provide a better camera app from TW to the ROM, other than that it is useless and a total waste.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Postal Psycho:
I wasn't aware of the s4 google edition deficiency. Samsung did not release camera drivers?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Crushader:
Very doubtful Samsung would do that, but they should. Only thing we know as of right now for the S4 is it will come with original Android, and from that I assume it would come with original Android camera app (very likely). That would be a terrible call from Google and Samsung. Samsung need to provide its camera app free from TouchWiz framework, so people could use it on original Android, else none of the camera apps out there can utilise the phone's camera hardware to provide features like low light and HDR, etc.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gideonMorrison:
I like your reasoning. I concur. The thing is, we have no clue yet when the III will be sold and it might take a while still, indeed. Also, considering I

always

take 1 year contracts,the III would be extremely expensive from the beginning. At least over here in the Netherlands.

Also, the Note II is still an extremely fast device and matches up to the higher tier ones. I don't bench for fun, so why would I care anyways. Last but not least, all the available accessories. I'm fairly sure all the cool cases etc will take some time to be designed/produced etc. The Note II is in her prime, still. I reckon it will take 4-5 months still for the Note III to be available, a long time!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] I Am Marino:
A Note 3 Nexus edition would probably cost you your first born.

-Sent from Marino's Note II-
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Postal Psycho:
hmmm. decisions, decisions
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nitrowing:
I've had the Note, 2x Note2 and the Tab Note 10.1"

I have never found any use for the S-Pen. The whole point of having a large touch screen device is that I don't need a stylus - it's not a SE P800!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] apallohadas:
I use the stylus on my note 2 and 10.1 all the time. If I have to scribble notes on the fly it's pure awesome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AN0N1M4T3:
Note 3 google edition epic fail
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jlczl:
I'll buy that epic fail on day 1. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @rbiter:
No ****. I think a Google note 3 is highly unlikely but I think I would drop any phone I had for a note3 with nexus experience.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AcostaJA:
I hope this:

Full HD - Slimmer Note 3, w/o LEGACY home Button, Keeps Screen Size, also allow a little bigger screen with an actually smaller device.

"Active" Rough Waterproof Body.

Dual Frontal (no more rear) Stereo Speakers.

As Stock Android as possible, Just S-Pen Only Extensions.

External Accesible Micro-SD Slot.

Earphone Jack move down as on the iPhone 5 / Nokias

Thick Extra Capacity Battery as Factory Default (as on Motorola's), with about 6000 mAh (or 50% more).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] PhilipTD:
I'll take it!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rashad83:
I hope this:

1. Full HD - Slimmer Note 3, w/o LEGACY home Button, Keeps Screen Size, also allow a little bigger screen with an actually smaller device.

2. "Active" Rough Waterproof Body.

3. Dual Frontal (no more rear) Stereo Speakers.

4. As Stock Android as possible, Just S-Pen Only Extensions.

5. External Accesible Micro-SD Slot.

6. Earphone Jack move down as on the iPhone 5 / Nokias

7. Thick Extra Capacity Battery as Factory Default (as on Motorola's), with about 6000 mAh (or 50% more).

- - - - - -

I will take it too. I will also add to the list:

* Option to hide soft keys like in Huawei devices.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ahkiongkc:
Wow! That's an interesting one!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Invalid_GR:
My take on note 3:

1)Galaxy Mega 6.3 design @ 5.7' ~same size as Note 2

2)CPU S800 GPU Adrenno 330

3)2GB Ram

4)Galaxy S4 Camera

5)4000mah battery

6)BLACK VERSION!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sandata:
Lol at the samsung logo, and sensors. All crammed!

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] muppetmania:
I hope Samsung release a version of the Note 3 that murders people who post dumb threads like this one!

YEA!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FinancialWar:
Pure Android on Note 2?? stupid idea.....

Amen to Post 2.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Davisk8:
Note with pure android rom will be completely useless!!! :P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bahtsiz_bedevi:
@Davisk8, @FinancialWar

Why are Note 2 users so dying for AOSP/AOKP roms then?

Tens of CM based AOSP roms are in this forum, why is that?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] luigi90210:
i really hate to be the one who tells you this but airview works on AOSP but in certain apps(like the browser, you can hover over things like a mouse would)

all the features you are talking about are coded into the app itself, if google would to add in functionality for airview into their gallery app than it would work with the spen, if google were to code a screenshot method using the spen, then that would work(which imo holding power + Vol- is much easier than pulling out the spen to take a screenshot)

the Spen works 100% on AOSP roms, dont believe me, try it out for yourself
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tuxonhtc:
Okay, I stand corrected re: airview being part of touchwiz framework part. Still, not 100% fully functional - since it only works in browser. And screenshot (unless I'm missing something here) is missing too.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] luigi90210:
Airview isn't apart of the touchwiz framework.

If you download any app that supports that feature than it works. In the STOCK Google apps it doesn't work. So really the only thing missing is screenshots which is pointless since you can just hold power +volume -(and i think you can set up the spen to take screen shots since some apps support the spen button functions)

Oh and I said it only works in the browser since I personally haven't found an app that has airview, nor have I had a need to actually use airview.

So I guess I stand corrected, spen functions are not touchwiz reliant and the only feature that needs to actually be coded in is the screenshot function for the spen which is debatable since I don't see why it would be impossible to code a root app that can add that into any ROM.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] muppetmania:
Why are you even all squabbling about this?

Newsflash: There is no Note

<anything>

unbranded.

Did you see the HTC Play release? OH MY GOD! It supports Beats Audio!!! Where's that in ASOP? Ooohhh that's right. IT'S NOT.

So even if this fantasy you're dreaming was to come true (it won't), it's very possible that S-Pen support (for the button & the pressure levels it supports, none of which is supported by ASOP's built-in "mouse" support, despite what some loonies in this thread think. Mouse supports doesn't mean proper touch pressure sensitivity support, sorry!) could be added. It'd be easy, in fact. Look at Beats.

But far out. You might as well squabble about what colour underpants the Samsung CEO is going to wear next week.

Kill me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kremata:
I say, blue with little teddy bears:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mickwa76:
Damn laggy touch wiz, worst ever.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Elvecio:
Just tried Handrite. God, it's really useful. On CM 10.2, the free version perfecty recognizes the s-pen (preventing the palm touch) and allows me to create quick notes with handwrite and place them on the homescreen as a widget. S-Note doesn't have a widget like this.

This app is my new toy, thank you ^ ^
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RaptorMD:
While it would be nice, I can't see it happening. The point of a GPE device is to be as close to stock but still under OEM control. If Samsung did that they would have to cut all of the S-Pen features since they are tied to TW.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wizayne:
What was that guy *****ing about up there? He is calling others dumb for asking for a bloatfree phone, whilst saying "ASOP doesn't support beats [and] ASOP doesn't support SPen" ..meanwhile I'm wondering WHAT is this "ASOP" software? My gn2 is still stuck on AOSP! God the trolls. (/end rant) and I didn't quote it because I don't wanna feed the trolls from two months ago, I just find it funny they tear posters up but repeatedly misspelled AOSP, (A)ndroid (O)pen (S)ource (P)roject, which has to be the absolute most used term on this site behind kernel and dalvik, which the same people tend to misspell every other post.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sanaqueen:
galaxy node III is my favorite, thanks for information about this node.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vali_ics:
In my opinion Samsung are good for specs but for software they are sh-t... no comment. I get my note 2 a year ago and no 4.2 or 4.3 official. Why S3 get a beta 4.2.2 and note 2 don't?

I really want a better update system from Samsung on all high end phones.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] muqali:
I'll take a Note 3 with no pen and S-gimmick stuff. Just big and powerful and free and open.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CLARiiON:
No interest in any GE devices!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] shure2:
This will never happen. I don't use the spen but Samsung consider it to be such a core feature that they'll never release a GE because it wouldn't be fully supported
[Galaxy Note 3 General] iZack187:
To all claiming a Galaxy Note without TouchWiz is totally useless :

Please, it is only a matter of choice, not performance or functionality... I, for exemple, joined XDA Forums in the search of custom roms in order to give me full control of my phone since I come from Linux phone such as Maemo and MeeGo. I very very rarely use the S-Pen at all since the screen is so big! I am very very happy with my PACMan rom, which includes Cyanogen, Paranoid, and AOKP settings all packed into one rom.

So don't tell me it is useless, I'm pretty sure I have a lot more "tweaks" and "hacks" than most of you (stock) TouchWiz users.

But again, this is coming from a guy that NEVER draws and NEVER writes, yet LOVES to experiment and hack.

Whether it's a TouchWiz device, or a Google edition device, you can rest assure I will be flashing it to a custom rom of my choice found here on this wonderful forum :)

With that said, just hurry up and release a Note 3 I can buy already!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] staryoshi:
A "Google Edition" Note III that runs a mostly stock experience with elements of S-Pen and TouchWiz integration would be my dream phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ipsuvedi:
SPen & S Features are property of samsung and without Touchwiz on it, it will not be Sammy product ...and it will not have exclusive Galaxy Note features..and..and...and, IT WILL NOT BE/CALLED Samsung Galaxy Note 3....If you like note 3 size in stock android ...then go to Micromax Doodle, Asus Fonepad or Oppo, Jhoppo etc, they are almost Stock android interfaces.

I dont know why ???? But here in xda it is like fashion..or trend that people who dont like TW , why they buy Samsung Galaxy devices :D

I dont understand that why people love Note or Galaxy S devices if they dont like touchwiz features

They should buy n

Nexus devices and ask Google to include spen like features :p;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CLARiiON:
+1

Very well explained. My feelings exactly.

BTW, Micromax Doodle? That's a catchy name!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] staryoshi:
Because Samsung nails everything besides UI, and Touchwiz isn't that bad. I just happen to enjoy stock Android more, but I want the additional feature set Samsung brings to the table. I'm not going to buy a product that doesn't have the features I want and "ask Google to include S-pen-like features." They'd have to release a product with said features before I'd buy it and there does not exist a Google product that satisfies the same demands as the Note series. Hence why I said I'd love such a product.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ipsuvedi:
Ok Dude no problem

I have another idea!!!!!

Please do not buy N9000 (Exynos), better buy N9005 (Sd 800)

Because if you like stock android so much and want note 3 too, then buy SD 800 variant which almost fully support stock experience after rooting

And you will get more roms and dev support for it :)

(Dont hesitate to click thanks button if you like this idea :p;) )
[Galaxy Note 3 General] willstay:
Well I feel stock Android should have been TW. Last time I flashed aosp, it was smooth but less functional, gave me headache (real headache). I am sensitive to bright screens and email, sms, calendar apps didn't have options to set black background. OLED is good when color is reversed and stock is designed for LCD. I felt downgraded when I lost smart dial (I think latest stock has this), couldn't quickly swype contact for sms or calling.

Sent from my GT-N7000
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Postal Psycho:
Touchwiz sucks. haha. Seriously, in the name of battery life, I have all the fancy samsung features turned off. I stream live NFL games, watch HD movies and play emulators with my Moga controller all day. When the battery finally runs out, I swap a spare. So yes, play edition please. Don't want any of the crapware.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Skander1998:
That's subjective, I'd run Touchwiz over stock all day.

You have two options, flash CM. (and forget you bought a note in the first place as you lose everything).

OR not get a Note as it's a samsung phone and runs touchwiz if you hate it that much.

+

You forget a google play edition, as it won't happen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mdalacu:
Same here. TW all the way, and not for the looks but for the much more increased functionality.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DubelBoom:
I prefer stock every day, all day.

TW design is so bad, and I don't use any of the features.

But I really like big screens, and Samsung keeps doing Phablets the best. Still not sure to what I'm upgrading from my Note 2 - Note 3, Nexus 5 or nothing.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AllGamer:
It'll be interesting to have a Nexus Notes 3 :)

I'm running my original Notes 1 with CM 10 and the Spen works fine in it. Obviously it'll not be as full feature as using the stock TW ROM from Samsung, but it's the only way to get the latest OS for the device.

There will be a day when Notes 3 gets forgotten by Samsung, and you'll have to decide if you want to remain stuck on the same OS forever or move on to the newer OS, and forgo some Apps features.

a year ago I was unable to move to CM 9 because a few apps were mising, now finaly there have been a few good replacements for those apps and I can move on to CM10

so, eventually by tht time when Notes 3 gets left behind in the future, we'll most likely see some Apps take up the slack missing from the AOSP / CM ROMs which used to be Samsung specific TW features now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] LuczOr:
I will probably stick to TW when I get mine. I am looking forward to S-Pen and Air Command so going AOSP will be out of the question (unless a rom includes those features.) Most important thing for me will be root/debloat and wifi tether.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tgamer:
I have gone through a few different TW roms on my N2 and finally jumped over to CM10 ASOP. Minus the GPS not working, and I havent put any time into trying to find a fix for it as my travels are limited or i have my iPad with me. TW was nice, I never use the SPen, i think that the ASOP rom is so much cleaner, snappier, the dialier is much better, Swype kb pops up almost instantly as there was a delay before.

I see both sides but really love the stripped down no frills ASOP version that I have been running for the last month or so.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] designgears:
AOSP basically renders the Note series very useless. Guess if you like a 6in phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tuxonhtc:
Have you tried Project AOSP? You can have all the AOSP apps including dialer. The only lag I notice is if I go to widget area and scroll real fast, and that's acceptable. Otherwise it's all great for me on touchwiz. Swype does work instantly for me, does have a slight delay while switching keyboards, though.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xManMythLegend:
Might as well get the Mega.

Cheaper and more screen. Note features are non existent with AOSP.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tekkitan:
Does it really matter THAT much to you? Sheesh. People have their preferences. Some prefer TouchWiz, some want stock Android. What is exactly the problem with having both? Is it going to hurt you in any way? No. You'll have your Galaxy Note 3. Anyone who wants the Google Play Edition will have what they want. You guys get all worked up over people's preference.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
I hope as time passes more people will subscribe to this way of thinking. There's nothing wrong with more options, and the world sure could use less aggression.

Skander, there's really no reason to go around crushing peoples' hopes. That's just plain mean.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @rbiter:
Honestly if this fantasy came true, I'd demand and back it up with a nice donation for a custom hybrid stock/tw experience. Between source for nexus, source for a Google edition note3 and really wishful thinking, source for gnote3 I am quite sure magic could happen. A perfect rom only hindered by physical buttons, but then again with source I am quite sure you could get the options of fully functional software nav buttons that all apps would recognize and react to properly and use the rest of the buttons for secondary options, or even cooler map them for game use also. What a beast of a phone that would be. Nobody wake me up from this dream please. A fully functional note3 with stock android would probably get more interest than GE gs4.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] systoxity:
dw, skander will be back shortly. :angel:

just playfully ribbing, please don't take offense ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] muqali:
We can dream of a day when there are no binary proprietary blob ****e in the code and everyone can compile anything for any device. Maybe before I die. I constantly write letters to my congress critters telling them they need to step up and protect consumers' rights for the electronics they own.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @rbiter:
Wake me up when September ends.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tim4w5:
Same here
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AllGamer:
Also, with the neat ClockWork / TeamWin Recoveries you have the option to backup both flavour of the ROMs and swap back and forth between them at the flip of a switch.

you can have the best of both world :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] joe ferreira:
beats by dre?

http://rockodevbeatsaudio.webs.com/downloads
[Galaxy Note 3 General] no6969el:
Mine should be coming on Monday. I do not know why people are confused about why we want the Note 3 but plan to flash Cyanogen or any other rom. It is quite simple, I have been asking for spen type features but there are none yet straight from Google. The awesome thing with Android devices though is you can handpick your hardware AND software. This is what I am doing too.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] khaytsus:
Weird, I have perfect spen button support, palm rejection, and pressure sensitivity on my Note 1 on cm/aokp. Must be a fluke... :P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jetbruceli:
really I dont see this coming out at all. The s4 makes sense since its probably the top sold device in 2013 next to the HTC one.

The Note 3 is special product from Samsung for a specific audience.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CalcProgrammer1:
On previous Note devices the S-Pen works fine in AOSP-based ROMs like CM. The pressure sensitivity is a per-app thing not an OS thing and supporting apps still make full use of the pressure sensitivity and side button. Plus hovering the pen works like a mouse and always has, even on the stock ROM of the original Note. I use an app called Memo on CM10.2 on my i717 and I use side button for eraser, pressure sensitivity works perfectly, and drawing is every bit as smooth as in S-Memo/Note. The only thing missing is the handedness option, but you can set that using a terminal command which sets handedness in the Wacom kernel driver. You lose the TW-specific pen software features but you do not lose any hardware capability. My guess is, like the other Notes, the Note 3's S-Pen driver is part of the kernel and not the TouchWiz framework.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] collymoore:
I would definitely love to see a google edition rom for the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] GunPowder55555:
Would be great
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zat0x:
I wonder why there are no AOSP roms. Is it hard to produce for the note 3 ? On other devices they appear much faster.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Davith:
Yeah, can't wait for an AOSP ROM. The Samsung bloatware is killing me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zat0x:
Dont worry. CM is baking something. 2 weeks ago a photo of a note 3 running CM appeared on twitter by a CM dev. Since then its been silent.

Patience... its so difficult sometimes ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ripnetuk:
This is also my dream but it ain't gonna happen... I just use an alternative launcher and the Samsung bloat largely stays out of my way. apart from fscking svoice which keeps popping up and can't be disabled due to dodgy warranty threats regarding rooting. I really hope someone kicks samsung ass re this and gets a legal judgement that rooting doesn't invalidate hardware statutory eu warranty. /rant
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jahnbodah:
Use Home2 shortcut this can make it so that when you double press the home button it will open whatever you want, I recommend google voice search, I used to do this with my note 2, and you dont need root
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mazzstrikers:
Haha it is a good idea but I doubt Samsung can include decent S Pen integration without loading tonnes of bloatware :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Captainjman2:
I have to say I would buy this in an instant too. As I'm sitting here with a nexus 5 in one hand and a note 2 with CM in the other it kills me to have to decide between the 2. I am dying for the google experience that comes in a powerful phone with a huge screen, huge battery, and a large amount of storage space. Sure it's a pipe dream, but can't we call dream!? The nexus 5 is an awesome phone, but I really love the note. I love CM on my note, but I love talking quality pictures on my phone and thats impossible with a stock CM camera app. Phone gods please answer my calling!!! lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] TheScarySnail:
I agree so much. if you love stock android as much as me, you could careless about TW and just want 4.4. imagine the note 3 GPe with 4.4! phone of the year! you don't know how much i wish this phone would come into existence
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @rbiter:
Yeah having Google wallet wallet would be nice. And Google note with soft nav buttons and we could get bigger screen, or extra rez or less bezel.

Sent from my SM-N9005