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[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Blackberry Working On XDA II on T-Mobile USA

Guys Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2004 05:06 Post subject: Any news

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Has anyone got this working on a XDA II, or XDAIII in the US on

t-mobile?

Thanks

Guy

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Yes, I have it working on my O2 XDA II. I changed my plan to a TMO Blackberry Voice and data plan. 1000 anytime minutes, unlimited data, unlimited SMS messages. $59.99. This service still allows me to browse most web site using pocket IE.

Blackberry web client works very well. In fact the relay to the XDA is actually quicker than to my existing RIM pager! Having some problems as follows:

1. Sending and receiving attachments does not seem to work. Cannot download attachment from the server when it arrives on the XDA. Attachments sent from XDA seem to arrive in a strange format on the e-mail account I send it too.

2. The Blackberry client appears as an e-mail account in the XDA mailbox, but it does not appear as an account in the sounds and notifications options box. So you cannot set any kind of audible or visual alert for when a mesage arrives. It means you have to keep checking the Today screen for new messages.

3. Number 2 above is further complicted by the fact that O2 left some kind of icon in that seems to be part of the O2 Active application. The O2 icon appears as a running application in the top menu bar, as does the Blackberry application. This results in the usual "bubble" appearing in the top menu, indicating more than one message/alert is present. So looking at it you could have a new mail message, missed call, voice message etc. But when you check, all you have is the blackberry icon and the O2 active icon (which doesn't actually allow you to do anything!) I am thinking about uninstalling the O2 Active app to see if that removes the useless O2 active icon. That would fix the "continuous bubble" problem.

I have also signed up for the Blackberry Enterprise Server option on the MailStreet Exchange E-Mail account I have. This would allow me better access to my regular e-mail and let me leave the web client just for messaging. Have not installed that yet, but will probably get it done this week.

Regards

Chris [/list][/quote]
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] paulmc:
Chris,

Can you see if you can get it to work on you XDAI or if you have one, a MDAIII?

Thanks,
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Hi Paul

I'm sorry, I had to part with my xda 1 to fund the xda 2 :( (I should update my profile to only show the XDA 2 now I guess..) I'm holding off (barely :-) getting the XDA 3, as I need the blackberry functionality, so have been watching this topic closely... Hopefully it's not too far off now. Sorry, not much help am I...

Regards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] aristobrat:
Did you have to do anything special to get it working on your XDA 2? Have to setup any specific Internet connections?

It installed w/o a hitch on my XDA 1, but the BlackBerry service won't stay started, and clicking on the "Register Now" bubble does nothing. I've been using a SIM straight out of one of our T-Mobile BlackBerrys, so the account should be provisioned correctly.

I've been running the stock T-Mobile PocketPC 2003 ROM, so I tried flashing to the O2 ROM from LumpiStefans kitchen last night, thinking something might be different with that, but ended up with the same results.

Thanks! :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] :
Not really. Followed the set up guide from the TMO site, which involved moving the cursor around to generate the key. Also requires that you set up the web based client on the TMO site, which allows you to direct multiple POP 3 e-mail accounts to the TMO account and then have them all relayed to the device. Are you using the Blackberry Web Client or are the sims you mention configured to a Blackberry Enterprise Server (BES) ? Also, for regular web browsing, you need to set up a connection using a different APN. The one TMO support gave me (and seems to work for browsing with Pocket IE) is: wap.voicestream.com

On a side note, how did you get the blackberry client onto the XDA1? My basic understanding was that the O2 ROM for the xda 2 would not load onto an xda 1 device... Are you using a custom ROM with the Blackberry client in it ???

Regards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] paulmc:
The cab file was posted, you copy the cab file to you xdaI and then double click on the cab file, it will install.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Hi Paul

Ah! that explains it. Here is some info from my xda 2 set up that might be helpful. I am not certain, but I believe the blackberry software is using a different connection to the one I had to establish for browsing. At any rate here is the device info. Thought the IP Address might help

Version: 1.2.4.19

PIN:

IMEI

IP Address: 10.0.206.106

I am wondering if it is actually connecting to an O2 server or a TMO server...?

Does your software show the same IP address?

REgards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] paulmc:
Well I only have an XDAI and a MDAIII. On the one(I) it loads and I get a pin but I don't have my account setup for the sever side so I don't know if it works.

for the MDAIII it doesn't give me a pin as I believe the I/O mapping has changed for the radio and it can't read the IMEI number from the radio on the III.

for TMo USA you are supposed to use blackberry.net as the Access Point Name (APN) under connections, did you do this?

I don't have the (I) around at this time to compare the IP address.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Hi Paul

Well I thought i had set that one up, but it does not appear there now, which is very strange... Here is what I currently have listed:

MY ISP

Name Access Point Name

T-Mobile WAP: wap.voicestream.com

T-Mobile Internet: internet2.voicestream.com

MOBILE WEB GPRS: mobile.o2.co.uk

MY WORK CONNECTIONS

WAP NETWORK GPRS: wap.o2.co.uk

Not sure which, if any of the above the Blackberry client uses, or whether it just connects directly to that IP Address...? Any thoughts?

Regards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Guys2:
HELP !!!!

I'm at a loss I'm using t-mobile USA got a BB account . Configured the BES it actually picked up the PIN from my outlook email it says everything is fine. I still can't get it to work it shows the envelope with the red slash. It still appears to be a network issue because it will get an IP address (changes ) and then go back it shows 2 services Blackberry [alp]

and Blackberry[cmime]

I also tried Blackberry BWC it doesn't work either?

So I'm at a loss everything looks okay it says connecting to

blackberry apn and then nada

This is on an XDA II

Thanks

Guy
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
I have mine configured to just use the web mail client right now, as the Blackberry plan I have does not include BES support. TMO tech support said that I would have to gto to the plan that included BES support if I wanted to interface with my corporate BES. That is the $30 plan verses $20 plan that covers just the web client. You might check that you have the BES plan provisioned if you are trying to go that route... Alternatively, you could just try using the web client version first. From your note, the envelope with the red slash indicates that the service is trying to connect. Once connected, this changes to an envelope with a black curved arrow. Take a look at the earlier post and check that you have the same connections as I do. Then take a look at the IP in the settings section on the XDA. All this assumes that you have already configured your account on the web client of course... Have you done that?

One quirk I came across today was that I suddenly stopped receiveing mail. It was in the in box on the web client, but was not being forwarded to the XDA. Interestingly, I could still send mail ok. TMO tech support reprovisioned the account on the server and magically all the mail started to flow again!

Hope that helps some

Regards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] aristobrat:
On a side-note, two of our work T-Mobile BlackBerrys had that exact same problem today Weird. :)

And yes, I was trying to use the BES feature on my XDA. I tried messing around w/ the BlackBerry Web Client, but when I went to create an account (on the website), I entered my PIN and IMEI and it asked me to logon with an administrative account, so I gave up. :D

Fortunately I have all of the talk of the i-mate JAM to sidetrack me, or I'd be going bonkers w/ this BlackBerry stuff. LOL
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Guys2:
Thanks for the help but still no joy

Tried what you suggested changed the IP to match yours I noticed IP address is different

10.0.212.207 but I don't see where to change it

But it changes ie 10.4.50.75

Any help once again appreciated
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Hi Guys2

Mmmm... well I can't really help you on the BES side, as I have not set mine up yet. Probably over the weekend though. On the BWC side though, I would recommend the following. You may have done some of this already but here goes

1. Set up your account on the web client and forward any POP 3 acconts that you want sent to the XDA, to your new BWC e-mail address.

2. Add any of the connections (MY ISP & My WORK) that I listed earlier in the thread to your XDA. I am not sure which one (if any) the xda client software uses, but it would then replicate what I have.

3. Go into the web e-mail client and under profiles (or it might be options) there is an option to send a couple of blackberry "address books" to the XDA. Not sure excatly what they are, but they can sometimes help to reset the account.

4. Soft reset the XDA and see if the Blackberry client connects on boot up.

5. If not, call the TMO data support folks and ask them to "re-provision" your Blackberry service. TMO have had some major trouble with the Blackberry relay over the past couple of days, that prevented e-mail being delivered to the wireless devices. They reprovisioned mine today and it fixed the problem I had been having since midday on Monday. It might just be that you have been trying to establish your connection just when all the network problems were starting.

Hope that helps!

REgards

Chris

PS. I'll let you know how I get on with BES when I get a chance to configure it.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Guys2:
Thanks for the help

I got it working with both bwc and bes works unbelievably well fast can view attachments etc. I don't know if t-mobile fixed or I did it. I reflashed to latest rom with blackberry.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] paulmc:
Guys2,

Did you get it to work on your XDAII or III?

I have an MDAIII and I couldn't get it to register a PIN, all it showed was '0'.

Thanks,
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] aristobrat:
FWIW, T-Mobile, Cingular & Rogers are all having BlackBerry issues today.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cbrow51:
Guys2 wrote:

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I got it working with both bwc and bes works unbelievably well fast can view attachments etc. I don't know if t-mobile fixed or I did it. I reflashed to latest rom with blackberry.

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Fantastic!!! It really is fast, isn't it! I see you have attachments working. Can you confirm whetreg that's via the BES set up or via BWC.? I have not been able to get attachments to work using BWC. Could you confirm?

Many Thanks

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Guys2:
Answers

I got it working on the XDA II on the MDAIII i only get 0 for pin an no further. Attachments are through BES, although word does not work adobe and PPT seem to work

Thanks

Guy
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] aristobrat:
No luck with the XDA I. It generates a PIN, but the service won't start, even with creating the o2 specific connections listed above.

Guess I'll chill out until it's officially announced. :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] dmcintosh:
mmmm, ok so i flashed my XDA with BB Client...and den..

So i flashed my XDA 2 and it worked like a charm.

I am in Australia by the way.. with the new xda 2 Himala bios flash, and it worked client comes up with ip addy connects to network, i am using my sim card from my Blackberry device.

My question is now that i have changed phones it comes up on my redirector on my computer as the normal PIN that it uses to idenitfy my old blackberry, but on the XDA it is coming up as a different one. how do i get my Redirector to acknowledge the XDA2 in the cradle. Is there a trick.

We dont rely on the redirector to be running to send me emails on my computer the RIM servers at the parent company do all the redirecting, it just facilitates it.

Anyhow any info is apprecated, by the way this site has been awesom for info. :lol:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] :
finally connected with bbconfig_v1.2_xda_ii_exchg_eng

dmcintosh

the PIN seems to be pulled from the profile/BES which is still redirecting

to that PIN that is why it is the same PIN as the handset the SIM card was in.

it has nothing to do with the SIM.

steps I took to get connected was

* removed user from BES

* uninstalled Blackberry Desktop manager and ran DbClean on the user PC

>>(I have been warned not to use dbclean while user is on BES as it may effect other users too)

* (uninstall bbconfig_v1.2_xda_ii_exchg_eng if already installed)

* disconnect USB cord from PC

* added user to BES

* Install bbconfig_v1.2_xda_ii_exchg_eng

* Open Task manager and kill wcescomm.exe (active sync)

* connect usb (xda cradle)

* Open BBConfig 1.2 Xda II for Microsoft Exchange

>> click Connect

+ a new PIN will be issued.

I was then able to continue setting it up via the desk tool

However my next obstacle is registering the IMEI on the RIM relay

it returns a message imei is invalid.

so the icon on the xda shows "not connected to Blackberry"

I am about to follow up with RIM to have the imei added to the relay

- and will post the results later
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] dmcintosh:
IMEI number

i had to get the guys at the RIM server to add the imei to the setup and it now has worked.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] dchalmers:
I am also in Australia using Telstra and having problems connecting. I have my PIN and desktop set up, but can't connect to the server (I get an icon of an envelope with a red slash through it)- When I re-set the XDA, it tries to connect to the Blackberry server, but eventually gives up and instead I am connected to telstra.gprs

Any ideas?

Thanks

P.S could it be that I am using my old SIM card and not one for a blackberry?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] k_kirk:
What is DbClean? Is this a utility that can be found somewhere on the web? I am in the same boat and had to go back to 1.72 because I could not make BB run on 2.06 but with this guidance I am confident I can get it going. Appreciate your assistance. Regards
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] k_kirk:
Still stuck with this problem. I could not hold myself on 1.72 so I am back on 2.06 ans trying to sort out BB. When I Stop / Start the service through the BB Interface in the XDA2, the device gets connected, then I see an IP address assigned (10.xxx.x.xxx) and then after about 3 seconds the connection is dropped and I see "no connection" in the IP Address field. I am guessing this means I have the carrier provisioning problem. Am I on the right track? Thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] :
I have the same problem.

Interestingly, I managed to get the BB working and downloaded several messages before I tested what would happen if I checked pop3 mailusing GPRS. The answer was that the BES decided that I now had "an illegal handheld PIN" and I have not been able to log back on.

At least I now know it can work.....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] k_kirk:
Curiosity killed the blackberry... :-)

Anyone can shed the light on DBClean? TIA
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] humayunl:
This is a very beginner question... I havent ever used blackberry but i know it supports 'real' push. I have an Imate (same as XDA II).

In order to have blackberry functionality. does my service provider need to support anything special? so far all they support is GPRS, MMS, SMS and standard GSM for cell phone use. Plus I have an outlook account from clubimate which is hosted on MS Exchange server 2003 which supposedly supports PUSH email functionality (its pseudo push) but i havent even gotten that to work... seems like their ms exchange server is not configured correctly or something....

anyway, so:

- can I (andhow can I) take advantage of blackberry on my Imate?

- What do I need to install?

- what services do I need?

- where can i get more info?

thanks
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] :
Hi Humayuni

In order to usde Blackberry you must:

1. Have the Blackberry client application on your i-mate

2. Have a service provider that supports either Blackberry Web Client (BWC) or Blackberry enterprise Server (BES)

The only XDA II device provider that I know of that includes the Blackberry client software in their ROM right now is O2 in the UK. The ROM version can be obtained form their web site. Its ROM 1.72.181. It may be possible for you to load this ROM onto your device and then have the Blackberry software, but ypu shpuld be aware of country code issues that are documented extensively in other threads in this forum. Also, I believe that Hobbit has extracted the relvant .cab files form the O2 ROM, so it "may" be possible to load these onto your i-mate. I have not see this as reportedly done at this point, but you could search the threads for this...

Once you have the blackberry app on our i-mate, you will need to use a service provider that offers a Blackberry Web Client BWC or BES data plan. These service provide the Blackberry "push" to your device.

My suggestion would be to find out if you have a provider that provides BWC or BES, before you spend a lot of time trying to get the Blackberry client on your device.

Hope this helps

Regards

Chris
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] humayunl:
Thanks a lot for the info chris :)

I am pretty certain there are no service providers in my area that support BWC or BES so that kinda lays the issue ot rest for me :) however i still wont mind experimenting with the blackberry client if I can find the .cab file so thats where i'm headed now... on my quest to locate the hobbit. anyone know the way to the shire?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] :
BB, TMO, BES and Synchronizing

Hi

I am having trouble with my BB on the XDA II. I can receive and send emails. Unfortunately the BB doesnt Synch with the server and if I delete emails or read them on my XDA II it still shows up as unread in my Lotus Notes mailbox.

Anyone else having the same issueS?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] jfran:
Smartner Duality Vs Blackberry

Out of interest, just wondered why there is little mention of the smartner duality solutions, similar to the RIM solution, alot easier to configure and doesnt require the addition of a tarif change if on o2uk, nor the addition of the extra APN's etc... been using the internet edition on my smartphone for a few months and have little complaints.

As there is the cliennt for the PPC 2002/3 this is a great solution for both xda and later users

just my 2 cents

jim
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] rwu:
Contacted RIM a couple of time and seems like the German version of BB Connect from T-Mobile is not working for AT&T, at least. The problem is that it automatically look for the german T-Mobile net work to connect to the blackberry APN and IP. It is possible to change that from the CAB file though so it looks for defferent carrier's network. Bottom line, the data transfer is through the SIM card, which is carrier dependent. That is why on your blackberry device you will see the carrier's screen when you power it on. The BB devices' PIN are pre-assigned to carriers. It won't work if you shift carrier. Now, come back to our problem, we need somebody who knows how to cook the CAB file. Who can help here?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] squiggs1982:
Re: Smartner Duality Vs Blackberry

Again, just my 2 bobs worth, but as far as I'm concerned, solutions like duality are practically uselss. Unless your IT department is very forward thinking, then they won't have the software installed on their exchange servers. This leaves the install on local machine option. That's useless for me anyway as I use a laptop and even for most others, regardless of how secure the solution really is, then if you use it to retrieve your mail and it's not certified, you're in deep doo doo. Basically, if you work for a big company like me, then BB is the only option. :(
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cychiam:
I have exactly the same problem as you. My company admin said that he found my PIN in the BES server and also that the PIN is invalid. I suppose it has done some checking against the ver of ROM you are using? Are you using XDA 2? Which ROM version is it on?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] dchalmers:
If you are using a cooked ROM, the RIM server will kick you off. I went back from WM2003 to the latest official UK ROM 1.7.2 and have had no problems since...the only issue is convincing Telstra to unblock your PIN once you have the new ROM.

Good luck
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cychiam:
Thanks. Do you know exactly what is RIM server checking against? Is it just the ExtRom, Base ROM or all of them? This may sound crazy. But is it possible for us to just simply rename the ROM version to the acceptable one for workaround? The ExtROM version, for example, can be renamed by altering the registry.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] cychiam:
Sharing Blackberry Experience

For those who are trying to get Blackberry working on their XDA2, this is what I can share about my experience.

I have tried to get BB working on my cooked 2.06 WWE for the past few days w/o success (plus hard resets!)

Changing the versions from TMob to UK O2 does not help whether it be German or English or v1.2 or v2.

I am finally forced to make a hard decision to downgrade to 1.72 WWE. And when this is done, everythings just work well.

My Conclusion (but may not be true)

- Your XDA2 got to be a ROM that supports Blackberry e.g. 1.72 WWE. My attempt to use other ROM e.g. 2.06 fails. RIM seems to check that. This point is also voiced out by other forummers. For those who wishes to have BB and WM2003SE, we may just need to wait for XDAIIi ROM that supports BB.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] gideonkad:
Touch screen not reponding

the touch screen on my xda II is not responding even after rom upgrade. Could anybody please help.Thanks.

gideonkad.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] gideonkad:
touch Screen not responding

I found out that it was a hardware problem after i opened up the phone. i had to do some soldering behind the screen to get it working. thanks to all.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zymesh:
Any idea how to know whats running Using the android system. Its sending data somewhere i think and its draining my battery as well. Adds up heating my phone up as well.

My battery went down from 97% to the one indicated in the screenshot. Help please... Im beginning to hate android now with this lackluster battery life. This just happened yesterday. Everything was fone before that.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tozenator:
I think I have this problem too. Or I'm really paranoid about my battery. I did a factory reset a few days ago, but it was fine before that. Usually my screen is the #1 battery consumer, now Android System is 75%.

Did you update your firmware? I'm running ME2 and had no problems whatsoever before that.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zymesh:
I downloaded "battery stats plus" and the issue might be the "camera test"?

I dont think the firmware updated has something to do with it? Not sure though.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tozenator:
Downloaded that app, and Camera Test shows pretty high on mine as well. About 1,73% though, but with a bit over 5 hours without charging. It's been using my camera sensor 2 hours out of 5.