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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Today I used my S4 taking photos of a game This phone has serious shutter lag. Comparing to my One, its almost funny. Its big pictures, yes and so has my xperia v. I think my N2 is at least dubbel as fast.

If Sammy want to stay on top I think its time to start optimizing its software. This phone going back to the testlab until AOSP get it some butter.

This is not flaming, I have all phones, and this is not highend 2013

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Yup it's shockingly bad!!! But it still takes great pics http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213853
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Your quite right, in the right conditions the camera takes great pics, it's more or less the same hardware as in my Xperia S I think. My problem is that I'm a point and click guy, kids and a wify moves around a lot, so my problem is finding the right conditions. I will use today looking for a SSL fix (Serious Shutter Lag) . There has to to be something we can do to make this better, and app or whatever. I tried all updates there is but even with an updated firmware for the camera the problem is still there. Comparing to all other Samsung S's I have the S4 is the worst, and that i plain wrong somehow. The camera is one of the sellingpoints, how come none of the reviews takes this up I wonder?

XDA will find a way :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cheetah2k:
I'm on MEA firmware (Singapore) on my i9500 and its seriously farked.. I had a similar experience with my last phone - the Sony Z - and both have the same Sony Exmor RS sensor.

I think this is more HW than SW. I'm seriously going back to my HTC1. Sure its 4MP but its instantaneous.. I missed 5 great photos just today on the S4 waiting for the fking shutter.. Just not acceptable.!!! :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Strange. There is some lag. It I noticed that the actual time you press the shutter is in fact when you get the shot. It's odd because the sound and animated effect of shot being taken has a delay.

I also noticed that if I record video and take a still whilst phone is recording the shutter speed appears to be someone much quicker??? Try it. I mainly take pics of my kids and although HTC did have much better speed when I had it there are other sacrifices like low MP which for me was no good as print lots of my pics out and I can tell you 100% that that the stills I printed from the One looked very poor compared to S4.

Anyway there is a thread for the above comparisons but had both and both have advantages and disadvantages.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
I used the trick yesterday but out of about 345 pics a few was good, the focus had serious problem (speed and indoor) Thankfully my pal had the HTC one and most of the pics was ok. They are smaller in size and pixel but it does the job done.

Today I have tried most of the camera apps there is and it's all the same, lag.

When it comes down to the lag. Witch in my case makes the phone close to useless because I don't carrying around a camera, I hope that AOSP plus another camerafirmware will improve the lag. If not , it's problably hardware.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Like I said I have also had both phones and although shutter lag is an issue the actual shot is taken when you press the button on the screen. My first s4 was faulty so maybe yours needs replacing. Almost 100% of my outdoor shots come out clean with no blur?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gillion:
Check if yoy have any of the special effects on.

In fact reset the camera (reset function in camera menu)

The only time I got lag was when I used special effects or low light processing.

But in those I usually see a window pop up which says the word processing and a bargrah...

Other than that shutter speed and shutter sound are fast... from my end.

Even if it is a settings issue (like gps tag ot whatever) it should be sorted out by Samsung as ordinary folks really do not like to fiddle with settings.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
345 pics and only a few came out good. Seriously ?

Like I said I have also had both phones and although shutter lag is an issue the actual shot is taken when you press the button on the screen. My first s4 was faulty so maybe yours needs replacing. Almost 100% of my outdoor shots come out clean with no blur?

2 below with motion and both white hard shots to capture.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213853

Check above link for my full quality shots.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Indoors . Yes the camera is ok in good condition and when you take faraway action shots. Close ups and indoor needs faster shutter speeds for action. I have had two S4 from different batches both has the same lag.

If the camera really had zsl it should be alright, but it doesn't. Tested an app for benchmarking cameras and what I could see the 9500 has good results but my 9505 not so. To few in the database to be sure but if the two models has different modules it's not impossible there is a difference . If the 9505 has the same module as xperia S and 9500 as xperia X there will be a difference in both speed and low light performance.

Do Samsung use a dedicated camera chip, lika the image sense, to take care of the raw image processing?

You that have the non qualcom model, do you also notice a slight lag when taking pictures? ZSL should be instantly.

Well. Let's se what next firmware do for the camera.

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Try out

http://www.sofica.fi/index.php?page=benchmarking

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gillion:
No lag.

I am mostly in low light environments... so I am not disappointed...

The benchmark app gives a score of 647 in low light environment. And my living room is indeed dim.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Much better than my 9505

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Can some more try the app? Seriously don't know if the results are theoretical ok, but why not.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sofica.camspeed

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
This is in bright light.

Latest firmware

My firmware

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gillion:
Clearly the 9505 camera has some work to be done on it.

I am stock unrooted MEA

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Hmmm. If a few more can use the same app and do a few tests in different light i imagine we have an answer to if there is a difference between the models ...

The 9505 has the same sensor as the x year old Xperia S and it's possible we can't have a better camera experience than this?

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Yes. The 9505 has some work to do :)

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
I agree indoors i9505 is poor bit how you Can say outdoor pics are just ok is beyond me. The HTC when I had it took ok shots outdoors due to low MP and some blurring at the edges.

For those interested S4 is amazing outdoors as my pics show here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213853.

As you can see the detail is extremely high.

I will agree with you that the HTC is fat superior indoors but dude you can't say it's just ok outdoors? If you need proof look at the pics and you could even check the reviews and endless comparisons on this subject.

Now back to shutter lag - yes the S4 has some which I am sure will be addressed in updates. If it's not I will sell it and buy the next HTC when they increase battery, storage and MP count. Until then this is the only realistic choice for me. I may even decide to go for the new pureview at 41mp :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
My results. Shame we didn't get the decent version of the S4. Guess Europe subsidises US ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] novice4:
i got this on my i9505:

rank: 96

score: 287

score with flash: 186

and this with note 2 on same conditions:

rank: 19

score: 617

score with flash: 333

This is ridiculous...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
If you're happy that's good. I'm not and I'm trying to figure out what's up.

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Are you on latest firmware?

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
I will be happy until a better phone comes out with a minimum of 8mp decent camera both outdoor and indoor, 64gb storage and minimum 2600 battery ;) HTC one + I am hoping will come out soon. Lumia 925 looks great too but low specs.

Hope they sort lag issue
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
Looking at the pretty big difference between the models I wonder if they can. The 9505 has an old chip that SE manufactured for the Xperia S, if I'm correctly informed. It's been 3 major upgrades and at least two firmware upgrades without any major changes. If this chip really are the older one the firmware should be more stable than Debian :)

We'll see and hope for the best. At least they can sync the sound :)

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] novice4:
Im on the lastest firmware of my country: I9505XXUAME2
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitarmafia:
Here is mine..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] guitarmafia:
Well i still have my s2..and what u r saying may b true for auto mode in low light..but night camera on s4 is way superior than s2..u just change to night mode and see the magic..but yeah moving objects might be a prob..may b lower the camera settings to 8 mp and there ll b less prob..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] novice4:
In night mode the shot is instant... no lag. why???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gillion:
Are you using the 9500 version ?

That one has little to no lag in night mode except when processing the image after its taken.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
The night mode in such has little to do with the performance of the hardware itself, it's 100 software hdr kind of. What it looks like is that there is a 200% gap between i9500 and i9505 where the 9500 has top class and the 9505 perform Worse than a two year old module.

They go for the same premium price and this is xda, let's find out why.

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Yeah, what a difference on my 9505! I hadn't noticed that. At least the push button and cameras sound is in perfect sync.

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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
There is kind of fix already stated here in the first few posts I believe, disable "Burst shot" now when taking a shot tap and hold shooter button then when you are happy with environment, face, stability etc. release.

I get what ppl are saying I have 9505 and am totally aware of this horrible problem especially since I own HTC One which I must say is a better camera or rather more versatile, nevertheless I love my S4 and the method above kind of helps but doesn't fix the issue.

Regards
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingofthebraves:
What lag is everyone talking about? Camera shutter speed is on par if not faster than my s3 and note2, I don't understand what everyone is complaining about? Is that the half a second pause between the click and the picture being taken? I'm running stock on XUBMEA
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dondavis007:
I opened a new thread for benchmarking the camera modules in http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2327355

So far the results state the same differences
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Misterdjus:
Here also on the I9505. And i will try out your tip about the night mode. I must say i haven't had time to play and test around with al the different modes yet, but i will do that and also try to change the setting to 8mp. But let's hope there will be a fix. Why buy a phone with 13mp if only 8 can be used. We want to make full use don't we :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lolo9393:
Yes, first tests gave some fc/reboot; then long time to open apps and many fuzzy behaviors.

I have upgraded FW to new BMF3.

No more FC/reboot but still long time to open and not clear to feel problem have been cleaned yet.

Shutter lag not longer than my old xperia Neo. I will see later on.

I9500 Wanamlite rom BMF3.

Anyway fantastic device!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slickspur:
I'm glad I'm not the only one experiencing blurry pictures. I'm loving this phone (my first Android), but am likely going to return it and go back to my iPhone 4s if this isn't fixed before my "trial" period runs out.

Camera is the most important part of a phone to me. The fact that I can't take clear pictures of people without being absolutely still, and taking multiple shots is crazy. My best pictures from my iPhone are pictures of my girlfriend and I that I asked strangers walking by to take for me. They're not going to be holding their breath taking absolutely still shots, and I'm going to be really upset if I view the pictures when I get the phone back and it's blurry, ruining capturing that moment. I've taken photos while walking with this phone that have come out clear, but am so sick of iOS!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Blurry pics?? Not on mine. Shutter lag yes but not one blur yet?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] georgen77:
Not rebooting but still very laggy

After the latest firmware update my 9500 stopped rebooting while launching camera (that was really annoying). However a lag, though not that substantial, remains.

Camspeed results in dark environment 779/400
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Sd600 is around 395 on camspeed! But I am getting great snaps?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilmikey201:
anybody experiencing really bad dual camera lag..i cant even use it its so bad everything else is fine
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lilmikey201:
That's how the dual camera comes out. See how the sides are like corrupted or somethin. I cropped me out btw
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipmanwck:
Just checked mine. Working really well. Never used it before but it's just as fast as normal camera.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] l.hieunghia1999:
The same with me!

You have the same problem with me.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slickspur:
Biggest fix I've found for the blur is to use the flash unless it's very bright outside. I believe it closes the shutter quicker. It's cut down on blur dramatically.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidlow7:
Hi Guys... I am also having the same issues..

Really dissapointed and I drop Samsung Malaysia a feedback over this and all they responded was to go service centre and denying all these problems.

Althought I'd mentioned this is a known issue and hope they put forward this to their relevant dept to make necessary improvements, seems were all in vain.

Really a disappointment!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] winsome76:
so there is still no solution?:crying:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidlow7:
I hoped that the response would be better
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] F{o}S:
S4 Camera...as good as Garbage!

Yes I agree! I had an S3 but through a series of unfortunate events, I broke my phone. I figured I would upgrade to the S4 thinking it would have a superior camera, boy was I wrong! The S4 camera(US version) is garbage! I saw the improvement from the S3 to the Note2(which takes amazing pictures) so I figured the S4 would be the same kind of jump, especially since it was a 13 mp... I've tried every setting I can but no difference. The camera takes AMAZING pictures outside in good lighting, holding the phone perfectly still. However, if you are inside under incandescent bulbs it fails miserably. Every picture looks grainy and just plan awful. Don't even get me on the front camera, which makes every picture look like it was painted by a 5 year old, its so blurry... I use to love taking pictures of my son and I(with my s3), using the front camera but now with the S4 it's not even worth it because they are so horrible. No matter the lighting if you move your hand at all the camera has an Epic Fail and blurs the whole picture....

Another thing I have noticed, which I can't believe no one else has pointed out, is the fact that the S4's camera is zoomed in compared to other phones. If I hold the note2(Wife's) or the s3 right beside my s4, the s4 is about x2's zoomed in. This is super annoying when you are trying to take a picture at a restaurant or in confined areas you pretty much have to back up against the wall and hold your phone above your head, flush against the wall to get the people in frame...Same picture taken with the note 2, looks 100x's better and isn't nearly as zoomed in. Someone argued with me the other day about how the S4 camera had to better than their s3's. I told him about how it looked zoomed in and blurred pictures easily, he didn't believe me, so we had a little test. I let him hold both phones in his hands, take a picture of a cup on his desk and then he emailed them both to himself(he thought the zoom was just because of the display, and the picture was actually not that way). When he received the pictures he was shocked the s3's picture looked awesome, no blurs and everything was in the frame. The s4's on the other hand was cutting out some of the cup, extremely blurry and grainy.

What really irritates me is if you read any review on the s4 everyone is talking about how phenomenal the camera is compared to the S3 and overs, is Samsung paying them off? ;) I just can't believe none of them noticed! Come on...

I love everything else about this phone except the Camera... Even if Samsung does release a firmware update its most likely not going to help that much, I feel this is more of a hardware problem.... Especially the zoom garbage...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidlow7:
Unfortunately it is really true that the picture taken is no longer wide than the old models... Well, i accepted this but what I can't accept is the shutter lag and the blurry...

I have 2 pictures indoor and outdoor snapping the same thing... gosh.. the indoor was with good lighting but it was totally not on par.. even my S2's 8mp I felt was doing better job..

I'll upload the picture when I have a better internet later ...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidlow7:
Hi All... the images I promised earlier.. please view to see
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] offdotba:
i take many photos and i dont have any issues with the camera app. Have you tried playing with focus and modes.

with night mode on there is lag, it has to be, but in normal contitions camera is great.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davidlow7:
Outdoor during day light I think it's really good but not when indoor even with good lighting

You can see this picture attached .... Not to say I never taken any perfect indoor pic but 90% seems to be that blurry/grainy/hazzy...

I didn't have this issue with the S3/Note 2 or even S2
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] offdotba:
its a nice picture :)

take many pictures and try many options, its a different camera than s2 camera.

only thing which i hate about camera app is settings, they always reset to default, ISO and everything every time i restart app.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mithrandir007:
Well the zoom thing, there's not much you can do about, but I find the camera exceptional for a phone, much better than my s3.

I have the i9500 btw.

A few days ago, I spent some time to sort out the good and blurry pictures of my baby daughter, half of which were taken with my s3 and most others with my s4.

It turns out that with the s3,many pics taken in artificial light were either blurry or grainy while on the s4, most of them were very good.

Those taken on sunny days were all perfect on the s4, even with movement, while on the s3, some were still not that good.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slickspur:
Have you guys used the flash indoors? Even if it's decently lit inside, you should still be going flash. This should fix your blurry problems.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cameracartwright:
Just so you know note 2 an d galaxy s3 have exactly the same sensor optics and camera software there idential.

If you find that your photos on the camera app screen fill the the screen its still set at default 9.6 megapixels go to settings then settings again and select size to 13 megapixels as for some reason out the box the gs4 is set to 9.6.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cameracartwright:
Also with regards to the grainy on the s4 make sure the iso is on auto not 400 or 800 or possible on antishake as it sounds like the s4 has antishake on (meaning noisier/grainier photos)

Trust me the s4 camera IS better
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mithrandir007:
I know about the 16/9 resolution being 9.6 instead of 13 megapixels, I meant the fact that the field of view is a bit smaller on the s4, like if it was a x2 zoom on the s3 (maybe not that much but still noticeable).
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cameracartwright:
Maybie a dud s4 mate as my photographs look great considering the sensor size I've done 20x30inch prints that look great.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] columbo:
I recently updated my firmware to I9505XXUBMGA and it has definitely improved camera responsiveness.

I can't remember the firmware I was on before, but it was quite recent.

Some shots are occasionally a bit blurry, but mostly I'm getting very good photos. I've just been on holiday and used my S4 for all my holiday snaps.

There is a noticeable lag in the shutter sound, but I find that the photo itself is usually taken the moment I press the button. The delay of the shutter sound might give the impression of shutter lag being worse than it actually is.

If you are still having problems with the camera, I recommend trying a newer firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mithrandir007:
Thanks but I don't have any problems with my s4 camera, I was quoting someone else who had problems.

Mine takes amazing pictures, I can also do big prints from them that look great.

The only thing I was agreeing with is the fact that if you take a picture from the same spot with the S4 and the S3, the S4 picture will appear zoomed in a bit, but with great quality.

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Indeed, when I put my phone to silent mode to take pictures, it's easy to see that pics are taken instantly, same as my S3, though it wasn't the case with some earlier firmwares.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] naxvm:
Hi, I've installed the new nightly of the [MENTION=3839575]mikeioannina[/MENTION] 's rom (Unofficial CM 10.1), and everything looks fine with the new kernel, but my Jelly Bean camera app is not functional; when I open it, a black screen is shown. I can focus and show the menu, but any image is displayed, even with the frontal camera. Althought, the ICS camera app is functional, but I want the JB's to be functional, because I can't neither take a photo from the lockscreen. What can I do?

Thank you very much, and sorry because of my bad English.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gorg355g:
flash this and hit thanks if works http://d-h.st/ugB