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[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Are you going to try some other kernels like team seven and kk?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
One more thing to note, you can even go with gpu 400 for even less throttling and stock governor setting

UV would help as well

It's good we have such a powerful kernel so early to deal with this but in the same time it's a shame for stock users, units with hotter temps will suffer in gaming

Finally for me it's summer and ambient is bad around here, we will get better results in better ambience

Schedulers play a part as well in stutters, try SIO
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Ok I just tried 1736 + gpu400 vs 1566 + gpu450

Both with run hot option, they are running very smoothly in MC4

It's clear to me now the reason of difference of my old 1.28 PVS2 vs my current 1.29 PVS3 is that HTC must have increased thermal throttling (in their binary file) in order to increase battery life, remember techradar re gave the phone a perfect score after the update

Always the gamer paying for those HTC endless performance tweaks
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Hold on a second cant we push the stock thermal config file from 1.28 for stock users?
[One (M7) General] john291:
hello there

what are your settings on the elemental kernel?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Already answered
[One (M7) General] john291:
sorry i didnt see it..

hello how exactly do i •lock the clocks to 1536mhz ?
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
In aroma on elemental x kernel settings.

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[One (M7) General] john291:
Do you select the first option thats come op?For all the cores?

Or what?

Best regards..

Sorry my english is not that good.
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
For the moment I have tested every setting on this thread, on my 1.29, stutters becomes after 30 min playing rr3, when the temp reaches 42°c and more

nothing to do. And the weather is cold 22°c, how will I do when summer arrives:mad:

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[One (M7) General] steve1996:
What's your pvs?
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Oh Steve, I see a lot of "pvs" what is pvs ?

How find it ?

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[One (M7) General] steve1996:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2215710 UPDATED NON-ROOT METHOD: Identify the binning of the SoC on your HTC One..
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Ok ! I have a pvs 3, good new or bad new ? :confused:

Should I have bought a Samsung s4 :eek:

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I still dont see a relation between PVS yet, (more on this in my next post)

as for the s4 in case you havent noticed, the thermal situation is even worse on both the octa and the OCed s600 especially as heat builds up inside the plastic encasing

with 1500+450 and run hot, my device is doing fine, although i didnt try it for such a long session like you

you should be glad we are aware of all this so early and have a kernel to fix it
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok about PVS i just switch my unit with my cousin's HT33M with C2_2 and PVS4 from this review

this unit has flawless especially when it comes to the speaker covers fitting which is absolutely leveled even with glass

the only difference is that my X FA32 actually have much cleaner injected than the HT33M

unlocking now and will be testing if higher PVS is actually cooler or hotter (my money on hotter)
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
what about selecting undervolt in aroma?850?750?800?or stock?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i selected no UV for maximum stability
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
thanks man .

greart result in RR3 .no lag!but very hot.really hot.i scare about cpu & gpu.is this danger for device?

i just installed kernel with your setting in aroma.is it needed to installing Setcpu for further changes?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no danger to the device you obviously never experienced Tegra 3 on the One X which used to arrive to 55c and was declared officially safe, equally we still managed to OC the GPU on the One X by 100mhz

at least your One's metal build will immediately let go of the heat

besides if you are experiencing no lag, it means heat is no building up (Because we also down clocked the CPU) and so its not arriving to throttling degrees

enjoy your are safe ;)

if you can report for how long you can play before it eventually throttles though (if ever)

oh and if you still dont like these temps, we can do better, 1536mhz + run hot + GPU400mhz! this will give us stock performance without throttling at all!
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Is 1.5GHz for gaming needed? Since when I turn Power Saver on it doesn't really affect gaming performance at all, which is stuck at 1.1GHz.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
depends on the game
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
no problem man when you say np.i am happy with RR3 now.but there is some issue in TRun2 .it seems touch Sensitivity is less than before.is this possible?! game not responses for turn left and right on time!
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
sorry dear hamdir but as last Q

you are described a lot of extra settings In addition to installing kernel,for example using setcpu app and settings in the app.

is it needed for who installed elementalx kernel?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Yes, if you want to have the exact same performance profiles as hamdir :)
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
ok .but there is several settings in Setcpu by hamdir.see:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41785054&postcount=30

another

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41782370&postcount=28

which one is better for general use?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
The settings for elementalX would be the best for gaming :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Sorry for the confusion but for now if you are using the ElementalX kernel leave it at stock in terms of governor so not to push the cpu so hard but Irecommend the SIO scheduler iI found a noticable improvement

Performance is excellent for my new device with 1566mhz, run hot and GPU450, stock ondemand governor and SIO

Sadly the mystery thickens my new PVS4 is definitely as hot or hotter than PVS3
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
Do you mean PVS3 or PVS2?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Corrected
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Hey Hamdir, about the s4 it was just to ennoy you ;)

I would prefer to buy a plastic Huawei half of the price !

Anyway I am asking myself how runs rr3 after 30 min on s4 and the temperature ?!

As you said a good test with rr3 is a 30 minutes test (the phone gets its max temp between 42 and 46 on my phone, depending of the settings).

I really wonder the results with the s4 and his overclocked cpu !

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[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Help !

After flashed many times elemental x, my apps cpu spy and betterbatterystats don't display my cpu stats anymore..

Any idea ? Fastboot erase cache ?

Obligation to connect with my pc to repair that?

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[One (M7) General] crzykiller:
I'm really confused. When everyone is saying they are getting between 40-45℃ is it CPU temp or battery temp?? My CPU hits 65℃ after about 20 minutes. Stock 1.7ghz gpu 450 extremely undervolted to reduce heat and default throttling on elementalX. Is this normal or is my phone bad... I have PVS4.
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
Battery. Your temps are fine.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So I just played the first three levels of MC4 on my new unit

And just incredible, 60fps all time incredible even the forth level which cripples my iPad 4 runs like butter

We only need to counter throttling and these SOCs are beasts

I didn't touch the governor

But this recipy is 100% working

- ElementalX kernel for it's thermal controls v0.11 tested

- From the kernel installer lock into 1566mhz believe it's more than enough, less heat

- From the kernel installer choose GPU450mhz, you can go for 400mhz for even better temps

- No UV for max stability since it doesnt support full steps yet, instability can also cause heat

- Stock ondemand governor is enough, don't tweak it so not heatup your CPU

- SIO scheduler, fastest scheduler for games at the moment

- turn off background sync and mobile connections for even better temps

That's it! You can play for a long while without hittung the threshold

You can use the powe saver for even better temps or/and GPU400

I finished 4 MC4 levels and despite arriving to 50c cpu and 44c battery it didn't drop a frame, inside TPU case!

One thing for sure on this gorgeous screen, 1080p and 60fps this surely the showcase game for s600

Major OP re-write tomorrow
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Believe me guys if apple was using the s600 they would go with 1200mhz and gpu487, the iPhone 5 run all these games smoothly at much slower CPU

Throttling and GPU is most important, if the cpu is 450mhz it will throttle 50mhz less than stock as well

Keeping lowering your CPU till you find the sweet spot

The reason HTC and Samsung are using these high speeds is simply "spec tables"
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
And is your PVS4 hotter than your PVS3 or about the same?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Really clueless, definitely not cooler

We should collect some user stats
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
this is my antutu benchmark reslut with ARHD 9.2 and elementalX

there is some Q for me because this score is worse than first exchanged htc one ! in normal conditions and stock rom it was at least 23700!

it seems my new device signs very lower amounts of RAM! although Gpu and cpu performances is better than before,but I have some lags on RR3 too when I play the game half an hour.

what is the reason of this differences between two devices in similar conditions?

is there any tweaks for better RAM result?

isn't better to set cpu at least in stock for higher performance in games?
[One (M7) General] crzykiller:
It's normal that your score is lower you brought your cpu speed from 1728mhz to 1566mhz
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well well looks like TPU is a better conductor vs hard cover

using my hard cover my CPU crossed 55 and my battery arrived at 50c today, although its very hot now in Beirut but i could the heat building unlike my TPU, i was playing NFSMW

i should have paid more attention in school :rolleyes:

anyway this is on a PVS4 unit, so really these binning are BS as far as my concerned, they are all consuming and heating up all the same, PVS2 vs PVS3 vs PVS4, if anything the difference is too minor to notice i wonder why they binned them to begin with

i will be hunting users with PVS6 this is the only way to understand this
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is one game that seems to benefit more from CPU clocks than GPU and that is NFSMW, at the default ElementalX 1836mhz and GPU400mhz its seems to hit 60fps better than 1533mhz + GPU450, speed sensation is even faster

eitherway you can't go wrong with ElemntalX even in its own selected defaults, it seems to be a killer for games

its very hot now in my country so i think i will go with stock M7 CPU/GPU clocks for now

1728mhz+GPU400mhz+default throttling, guess it's a good middle ground for a all

according to flar2, even ElementalX ' default throttling is better than stock kernel
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
It seems that the brightness on my unit also matters a lot for temperature. When I am using auto (which is really bright) it gets a lot warmer during normal usage. I am still in stock 1.29.401.12 though, so it might have changed in the .16 update.
[One (M7) General] nerv8765:
Thanks tons, this really helped my gaming performance. I was wondering why Real Racing 3 was lagging with such a powerful phone.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Yup HTC should fix the throttling from their own and stop messing up their flagship power for the sake of battery, this beats the purpose of the whole thing

MC4 still leaves me at awe 1080p@60fps with all the fancy shader effects, definitely this game is the mascot of the HTC One
[One (M7) General] ataft:
So I'm running PVS4 and I have not been able to push my phone past 42degrees, unrooted. I've had throttling at 41/42 when plugged in, and no throttling unplugged at 41/42.

I've been playing Dungeon Hunter 4, and it seems to heat up the phone fairly well. I'll download RR3 tomorrow and see how that runs. At the moment I'm thinking my phone still may run slightly cooler than some others out there.

One question for some of you guys with a better idea of these things than myself: is it a bad idea to be playing games when charging? I've done this twice now with DH4, it's a beast on battery, and the phone seems to throttle at 42 to prevent it going hotter. Is It fine since the temps aren't super high, or are there other problems that could arise from this beyond battery temperature?
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
I think it isn't that good for the battery itself to charge and be depleted at the same time. But for the rest you're ok I guess.
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Not entirely agree...

When you use a real gps in your car, isn't it plugged and charging ?

Same thing if you use the GPS of the HTC on your car.

I find normal to use a device while charging, no :what:

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[One (M7) General] ataft:
What are you guys doing? Just running your battery down and charging again? It seems to go so quick.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Yes this is what we learned from a hot rod like tegra 3, never game on the charger with these quad mobile SOCs

And yes cycle all you can better for your battery
[One (M7) General] Prophet16:
I have an issue with some of the gameloft games. In NOVA 3 and MC4, the graphics are always on the lowest settings and I don't know how to change it. But everyone else seems to have the game running on max. These games ran on max on my old S2, but it lagged a lot. Anyone know how to change the graphics settings on the HTC One?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Using 300-500mAh for GPS vs 600-900mAh for gaming while on charger are completely different things :P
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Ok you mean that it isn't good to play when the phone is plugged...

And if you use your HTC one as a GPS in your car, you will plug it or not with the car charger ?

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[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I will if I had a dock and car charger :P
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4510165]Prophet16[/MENTION] you need to have the latest version from the store ;)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Hell yes!

I still get exciting thinking about when we first found this out, it is the best game to showcase the HTC One, no doubt!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So guys definitely any hard cover or tpu case will contribute greatly to high temps, seems the back plate is there for a very good reason
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Now I'm glad I'm naked :)

Although I do miss having some sort of protection...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
how is it doing so far? did you collect micro dents on the metal edges and plastic sections?

one thing for sure though, TPU does a lot better than plastic hard covers which boils the phone so quick
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Not too badly tbh... I've only a few very VERY tiny micro dents at the bottom by the micro USB port. Little to no scuffing. The plastic is still that white/off-white colour... any marks I've been able to wipe off with a wet finger :)

The screen has held up nicely, no dents or micro scratches (none that I have seen anyway).
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
I'm using Hamdir's old method, a pouch. I have always used a pouch to protect my phone's. It's the pouch from my One X while I await the one for my One. But I'm also pretty happy with the temperatures and marks.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
im still undecided on anything mainly because i dont have a pouch

the pouch i was using for the One X is leaving die colors on the white so i stopped using it, it ruined one of my TPU covers as well when i tried to combine both, for the past week i used hard cover plus this pouch which works but hard cover sucks in both feel and temps, as for the original One x pouch is too big for the One and it slides like soap out of it

what is the current pouch from your One X and the new one? can you share photos?
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
I have the pouch from Senacases.com, for both One X and the One. But the pouch for the One hasn't been sent to me yet. The one for my One X is also to big, but it's better than going naked and that way I have something I can put my phone on if I want to lay it down. If you still want pictures from the One X pouch with the One, I'll make them later today.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks, no need i can see them on the website
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=2641800]ViDtje[/MENTION] im actually considering to buy the double flip

to be honest its so far the best solution for the One, it needs you to be a bit careful since its not optimal protection but the texture feel is nice and while using it flip open it still shows the beauty of it, meanwhile you can take it off as easily as a pouch
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I bought this pouch thing for mine :D Just waiting for it to arrive :P

http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/140981581901?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea it's either the double flip or i will have to hunt down a good quality pouch

there is virtually no smartphone pouches sold locally (for some reason they are never in demand and our populous finds a pouch silly) so i will have to import something
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
I don't like flip cases, they're so clumsy. A pouch isn't as handy as naked. But not as clumsy as a flip case. I've also ordered the double dip case, but expansys is messing up the shipment. My dad has a Noreve pouch for his One X and it actually makes tiny scratches on the down side of the phone. As does the official HTC car dock.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
damn i think my hard cover did the same to my one, im on TPU now till i find a solution...
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
Seems I'm being a bit clumsy with the XDA app, sorry for making such a mess :)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I'm using all my phones naked, I don't need any special care for it as I never drop my phones lol. I just user it normally, even the flawed one which needs to be replaced. So far no scratches on the screen and back plate, the white sides are yellow on day one... But the beats logo... It was wearing off in the first few days so I scratched it away
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well i can't say the same, my One X endured some tough falls, until I eventually killed its internal with a killer drop, this was under my pouch only policy as well...

so no naked for me, ever

my current One is perfect, no gaps, perfect fit for the glass no recessed or raised edges, sadly the plastic is yellower than my previous ones and not flawless it has micro imperfections all around, but since i get everything else including CID_001 and lovely screen color balance, i'm tolerating and this will be my unit
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I know, not everyone would guarantee that he would never drop his phone, so that's why people use protection.

My opinion is: screens would shatter even with a case on it, so why should I use it?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
not with a pouch ;) it never shatters (at least for the dozens of One X falls)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I'm afraid some dust would scratch the screen when sliding in and out.
[One (M7) General] ataft:
I've got a black One, so if it wasn't an option to go ceaseless for me with a silver One, it certainly isn't an option to go caseless given how scratches will show.

I've got a hard super slim Rock case on it. The temps are higher than ceaseless, but only by a degree... Maybe.. MAYBE two at the very very most
[One (M7) General] babakmaham:
i really need to know:

how much a gpu clock speed is effective in 3D games performance?

is powervr 543Mp3(S4) with 533 MHz more powerful than adreno with 400 MHz?if the answer is yes,how much?

is there any way to overclock more than 450 MHz ? for example 533 like as powervr or 487 in I9505?

i am really confused with elementalX kernel .whats best setting for best result in games an general phone performance whit a normal battery drain?

i am using it now with this setting:1724 cpu for all cores ,stock throttling, 450 gpu and setcpu app with no changes!
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
400mhz vs 450mhz would at best give you 3fps in benchmarks :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
speaking of throttling and GPU
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i switched back to my TPU + official One X pouch and definitly the thermals are better for me now

so anyone relying on GPU450 with stock 1.7ghz? how hot does it get in your gaming?
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
So you leave your TPU case on your One while you put it in the pouch?
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
I can tell you that gaming on my I9500 (powervrMP3) versus my HTC One (even at 450mhz) is night and day. There is nothing you can't throw at the S4 that it can't handle with ease (with stock kernel). No frame rate drops, no lags, etc. If the HTC One has a weak spot it's the GPU IMO. It was noticeable on the Butterfly and just as noticeable on the One.

---------- Post added at 02:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:57 PM ----------

Even at 450mhz, I still need to switch the governor to MSM-DVCS and still it's not perfect. As far as heat goes, it definitely gets quite warm after more than 15 minutes of game play. On modern combat 4, it can get uncomfortably warm.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
What's a TPU case look like? I'm not too sure how the material is :)

Ondemand is probably better for those games. Nothing to do with the GPU as both phones share the exact GPU, just differently binned CPUs with a slightly higher clock. It's definitely a kernel issue cos in the 1.28 update gaming was absolutely flawless.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well even so, the pouch is still too wide and it slides out, it will have to do until i find my self a nice fitting pouch...at least i have a way to protect the screen

this accessories situation is really getting on my nerves around here

what is the point of selling 800$ devices like this with only cheap chinese TPU and hard covers! meanwhile the offical double flip is selling at 80$!

i have the double dip but i hate it like crazy, im keeping it only for extreme outdoor use

but pouches are impossible to find and importing them will cost 3x

someone is selling this rock flip-cover, it nice but stupidly rock missed the fact that this device has two speakers!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you must be talking about another device surely, with ElementalX, stock CPU/GPU clocks and stock ROM, MC4 is locked 60fps

i dont understand what you are talking about

like i have so far updated in this thread, there is no need to switch the governor at all stick to ondemand with it's default values, just try another scheduler like SIO if you like, we have long realized MSM is not working well for everything, so surely you issue is thermals

the only important bit is not to let the device throttle, only then the lags appear, this is a combination of your ambient, kernel thermal controls and whatever cover you are using for the device

for me with TPU, 1700mhz + GPU400 on ElementalX with its default thermal controls, i can reach 55c CPU and the lags do not appear

so try to figure out why your device is lagging and don't push it with OC too hard, like i said maybe powersaver and GPU400 might be better for your than 1.9ghz and GPU450

to conclude you have to think opposite, you don't need to push it or OC it or make the governor more agressive, what you actually need to do is insure the device does not throttle
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
big shame HTC compromised stock gaming with 1.29, i think we should flood HTCdev with complaints about the throttling
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
Very sage advice. I was using Faux's kernel but let me play around with ElementalX and see how the performance is.

If I understand you correctly, you're using Ondemand + SIO with stock thermal settings? Did you OC the GPU to 450 or just keep it stock as well?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Only way I see to contact them is on Twitter though, and I don't use Twitter :P
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here you go, any cover will kill the design im afraid