yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] Mnorton1228:
Yea this may be a discussion for another thread entirely. I personally wasn't all that impressed with my one and only samsung device to date which was the GNexus. I've enjoyed my Droid X, Razr, Thunderbolt, and DNA way more then I liked it. After having my DNA I really don't mind missing out on the S4. Doesn't seem like it can offer much more then a little faster hardware. Which I feel like the DNA is pretty darn quick to begin with.

I really hope that HTC isn't on the spiral down. I though the Thunderbolt and DNA had pretty great build quality and it looked like it was on the up and up with the One. We had a pretty large discussion on why they're going the way they are and we kinda felt like it is from them screwing things up with Google and the whole Nexus line, turning their back on the modding community, and poor marketing.
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
yeah, i feel the same way about it. well, i'm debating whether to root my s4 now....i activated my dna again...couldnt stand the s4...but if i can get aosp on it...who knows, might feel better :P
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
With all those executives quiting hopefully the new crew will turn things around.
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
do you have a link for your post 'verizon announcement' i'd like to see what they announced. looks like from your post they announced a butterfly 2?
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
they didnt announce any phones at CTIA. it was all a marketting plan or whatever u wanna call it. the Butterfly 2 is already in production and some stuff was leaked about how its in the works. Since the the first Butterfly was the DNA counterpart, that means the the Butterfly 2 thats suppose to be out in third qtr might show up a month after the butterfly 2 release. just google butterfly 2 and you'll see alot of posts about the leaks and rumors.
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Played with a brand new s4 today my friend paid $742 for and its felt just like an s3. Dna is much better!
[HTC Droid DNA] th3_g00b:
Yeah, I'm gonna try it for a day and see if I like it. If not I'm gonna return it.
[HTC Droid DNA] eakeller:
I'm returning my S4. Had it less than a day.
[HTC Droid DNA] hkbladelawhk:
If only the Execs at VZW would stop pulling their devices off HTC Dev. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] nozgulTwo:
Does anyone know how to enable ad-hoc networking on the S4? Is it the same as the S3?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fatos:
Hey guys. I got an S4 from my job. And today I saw the ONE in a shop and I got to use it a bit. I liked a lot. But if I'm going to change it I'll be losing some money. And I'm a bit worried of HTC future also.

I've got bees in my stomach.

Any honest thoughts from you who has tried both of the phones.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drspikes:
Htc have never made a loss. Also the Devs love the device, so you'll get good support no matter what.

Love my One but up to you!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EboniK:
You saying the HTC first wasn't a loss?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyshemi:
I have both and use my HTC a lot more it's just seemless in everything and I find it more adult like ! To me the gs4 is cool and has nice features but I always stay on my one
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fatos:
I meant that they cost same . And since I have used my s4 when I sell it it will not cover totally htc one.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jags_the1:
Lolz HTC is the only company who has been struggling amongst all telecommunication handset manufacturing companies. I don't know what u talking about.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhonsok:
I prefer the one. I work at a store and I sell both but for me the One is better.

I prefer the ui and find it smoother. Especially with Trickdroid. That Rom is beast. Actually development in general is awesome so I am not leaving anytime soon.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob13bob:
its not worth losing money over changing imho. the only s4 flaw that worries is me is potential burn in if you are heavy user in bright environments. Check the s3 screens on demo at your local store. nasty burn in on them...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spitfire2425:
The one all the way man. The s4 may have a bunch of cool features but how many of them do you use? And just look at it... It's freaking beautiful compared to the plastic crap...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkym0nkey:
Its tricky but if possible spend a little time with One. Not just couple of minutes but little more than that.

There are niggles with even One. Those who own the device will most of the times give you biased opinions. As owner of both, I would not feel it will be sound advice to tell someone to ditch S4 in favour of One and on top of that lose money in the process.

Rather than make another long post about it, I will link to my previous post in locked thread. That thread had to be cleaned because fanboys on both sides just made it ugly in there. And in the end mod had to delete all but OP and my post :p

Anyway here is the link to it : http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41699179&postcount=2

Think twice before making a move. One is beautiful device, but S4 is equally good(not in terms of looks) and probably more functional with more traditional way of doing things which are universal to most android handsets. One takes completely different path.

Development for both phones wont be an issue. S4 and One both have great development work going on for it.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eskargoz:
Htc's benefits have shrunk but they have always made benefits.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gemini002:
Not true apart from quick toggles its missing nothing from traditional Android...there is virtually no roms on s4 all the top developers have the one that should tell u something...the interface on Samsung touch wiz is horrible ..sorry imo the interface just ruins that phone for me
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Funkym0nkey:
This is what I am talking about. Blind one sided view of things. Nothing on One works like stock android by default unless you change the Sense 5 launcher with something else. Not even simple wallpaper changing or creating shortcuts and dragging tray icon apps etc. Even these basic things are done differently. HTC specifically have gone their own way about almost everything with One. Some people love it, some hate it. I dont like it.

And development will not be an issue. S4 has been out for less than a month. One had shortages but it was in hands of lot of developers early.

S4 already had Omega and Wanam ROMs, two top recognised developers for Samsung phones. More will jump in eventually. It is just matter of time.

TWUI is more functional than Sense 5. It may not look as elegant as our sense to look at, but it works just fine. It might have colour scheme that represents brazilian rainforest, but it is functional and most actions work like stock android. So even if someone is coming from likes of Nexus 4 or older Samsung phones or even any old ICS or JB and even gingerbread, they will feel right at home.

S4 may not be as good looking, as well built phone as One, but it is no slouch. Definitely not something that is worth less than One or something you need to throw out to get One and lose money in process.

It has its share of problems just like we have our own share of problems with One. And that is something lot of people here wont accept (that One really does have issues ).

I still use One as my primary phone, that does not mean I am ready to tell someone to ditch his perfectly fine S4 to get One.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superprelude:
Is this another fan boy post?

I like One, but I would not pay $100 to switch. Both are the best phone available. I believe S4 is more functional in certain area too. But I really can't take the Brazilian rainforest colour scheme which has no style at all, it's just trying to target all kind of audience including 15 years kid. I like the Sense style, it's elegant and classy, undeniable best speakers, best low night camera, etc...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gemini002:
No just stating the facts...the eye and gestures gimmicks are not native to android...I have a galaxy tab 2 ,Ipad 2 ,MacBook pro etc I like good products imo the s4 is horrible..hate the ui its so bad some of the features dont work well such as using ur eyes to scroll down and the lack of text flow ...camera is awesome colours pop on that screen but they are not real colours also screen does not get as bright...this is my opinion which does not make me a fan boy :cool: I was gunna get a S4 when I was reading the reviews for it they kept talkin about the one the rest is history
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superprelude:
Disable the gimmick apps, those are for marketing. Use the phone instead.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fatos:
Thanks a lot guys for your honest thoughts. From what I read. I'm guessing its smart to stick with my S4 for a little while still. It's plasticiy and it has a bit of lag time after time. Hope it will get better. And than maby I'll wait until next spring. I only used Htc for a long time maby it's ok with a bit of change for some months.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ss_snail:
The One is only okay.

I've extensively used both the One Dev. Ed. and the GS4 and you're not missing out on anything. I am currently using the One and trying out various launchers. IMHO the GS4 had a better phone, calendar, email app, and I really miss 4.2.2. Don't be fooled by the unlocked bootloader: I've literally installed every custom ROM on the One. The difference between the screens is negligible, yet the autobrightness of the One is more functional and CM 10.1 has excellent autobrightness (unfortunately, the screen would go black every time I made a phone call. I like Blinkfeed, but am disappointed by Sense. The GS4 and the One are my first Android phones and I would readily choose the GS4. I have every intention to sell my One and buy the 32gb GS4.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bob13bob:
Disable the s4 gimmick features and the phone will speed up
[General Topics] Rajaasim1980:
HI guys

just want to get an ideas about which launcher you like the most.
[General Topics] Sib64:
I think that if you search a little (with the "search all forums")

Just type "launcher poll" and you will see that "Results"

170 000 résults (0,19 seconds)
[General Topics] Rajaasim1980:
your logic is strange dude

then why need to open any topic..simply closed the forum and search everything which already been posted there

My topic was rate top five launcher based on your personal preferences

and instead of giving answer of simple question you are telling me how search work on this forum
[General Topics] Sib64:
No, I just want to show you that you're not the first to post this subject.

That's all.

You will find a lot of answers which are really different. That's depend to your device, to the rom etc...

If you want to open a thread try to find a good subject... If you search a little you will find.

And it's not really necessary to open a thread for help other members, just give the good answer for a request and it will be good for you ;)
[General Topics] Rajaasim1980:
Again this will be true for any new topic because if you serach it someone would have posted something about it in past..again i dont see the thread about ranking of launcher and would not it better if instead of arguing in two posts you would have simply ignore it or would have simply mentioned your top 5 launcher
[General Topics] Sib64:
Sorry for the misunderstood, I've just tried to explain you something. That's all.

Good luck
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Fuses:
Welcome to moonshine S-OFF. Enjoy.

Important windows notes:

1.) make sure htc sync is uninstalled

2.) make sure adb and fastboot drivers are working

3.) make sure htc sync is uninstalled

4.) if you are having problems with fastboot, try a usb 2.0 port.

5.) make sure htc sync is uninstalled

6.) make sure other programs that interfere with and fastboot are uninstalled (PDANet, Kies, etc.)

7.) make sure htc sync is uninstalled

8.) if you use a third party firewall, be sure to grant access to distiller.exe as it checks for updates

9.) MAKE SURE HTC SYNC IS UNINSTALLED

10.) YOU MUST UNZIP THE ARCHIVE BEFORE RUNNING DISTILLER. DO NOT JUST TRY TO RUN IT FROM THE ARCHIVE.

Downloads available at: http://moonshine.io
[One (M7) Original Android Development] typeriz:
View attachment 1983553

Boom !!
[One (M7) Original Android Development] nugzo:
With supercid (all ones) you can install RUU from different One versions, also downgrade firmware. You could install the DEV edition ruu on an ATT phone for example. The RUU checks the cid to make sure you are installing the correct software for your version. Supercid fixes that..
[One (M7) Original Android Development] chogardjr:
[MENTION=4519372]Fuses[/MENTION] is there a Twitter or similar social network your team post updates on?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] rwilco12:
Hey everyone,

I just finished cleaning up almost three full pages of posts that were either off topic, inappropriate or flaming. That is completely uncalled for!

Everyone here may consider this their official warning. Further violations of the XDA Forum Rules will result in infractions being handed out.

Thank you,

Rwilco12
[One (M7) Original Android Development] jotha:
Thread closed temporarily

@Fuses : Please contact moderators when you have something to present and we will reopen.

ATM there is nothing to discuss here and we have to clean on a hourly base for OT-Clutter.

cheers
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Fuses:
Hmm
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Fuses:
Its out
[One (M7) Original Android Development] encho:
Never mind, haven't seen the link in the op. Delete
[One (M7) Original Android Development] superchilpil:
Thanks for this, donation coming soon
[One (M7) Original Android Development] pantmunu:
I'm on att and running arhd 10.1 whis is 4.2.2 .. So is it available for this version or should ibgo back to 4.1.2 ..
[One (M7) Original Android Development] spitfire2425:
At&t version works with gsm download right? And no 4.2.2?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] hccssn:
Hello,

thank you for the S-OFF this device.

I would like to just ask, whether is possible to install back the STOCK HBOOT with everything stock, also LOCKED status, after someone have unlocked/s-off-ed his device.

Thanks.

Best regards,

Herold
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Zarboz:
Let me know
[One (M7) Original Android Development] ChronoWerX:
Carrier Version?

My ROM version is 1.29.206.11 (o2 Germany) ... no chance for S-OFF yet?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] chogardjr:
Hell yes!
[One (M7) Original Android Development] djkinetic:
Thanks Fuses for the release, was waiting for this for a while, although I didnt use your method to S-OFF my device as I wasnt by my Linux box. Nevertheless awesome work.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Noob Q... Can we flash 4.2.2 after S-OFFing??
[One (M7) Original Android Development] jonas2295:
of course.

i was running a 4.2.2. ROM when i soffed with revone.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] riro56:
Does the S-Off erase all the data and custom ROM ?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] vizzy:
Nope.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Pavelol:
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at moonshine.io Port 80

This is happening when i'm trying to enter the site O_O?

with proxy i have to problems access the site.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] allkpop:
Will I still be able to get OTA updates if I have my device on S-OFF?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Superjoe:
Has anyone on T-Mobile successfully done this? I've already flashed a custom ROM so my build doesn't match any of the Euro models like it is supposed to. Do you know of a ROM I can flash temporarily? I've looked over the forums but I'm not seeing one.

Thanks for the help!

EDIT: I guess Maximus 7.0 is 1.29.401.16
[One (M7) Original Android Development] scotty1223:
Where is your thread?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] daddioj:
I made one and so did another user here are the links

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2321613

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2322313
[One (M7) Original Android Development] scotty1223:
Awesome, thanks
[One (M7) Original Android Development] olvrick:
Will this work for HTC One 802w? (dual-sim edition)

Hboot 2.23.0000
[One (M7) Original Android Development] daddioj:
I have no idea. how identical the hardware is. you would have to take the risk and find out I suppose
[One (M7) Original Android Development] olvrick:
dont wanna get my phone bricked=)
[One (M7) Original Android Development] jaxenroth:
I have, with revone method.

Sent from my phone...
[One (M7) Original Android Development] olvrick:
u get s-off on HTC One 802w? with two sim-cards?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Tableuraz:
Hello guys, I've a Vodafone (SFR) HTC One but I can't seem to be able to get it S-OFF, I'm using a custom ROM (Android Revolution HD 10.2, should I relock my Bootloader and install the original SFR Build ?

Because right now, everytime I try to get my baby S-OFF I end up getting a bootloop (ROM getting corrupted somehow...)
[One (M7) Original Android Development] beaups:
yes, some custom roms conflict with the s-off process. go stockish then you can flash back custom rom when done.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Airo18:
Made a quick video for you to follow, hope you like!

http://youtu.be/bOHDmWlL6IE
[One (M7) Original Android Development] a box of kittens:
hey guys just about to do this..just for confirmation.. do I need to put my adb/fastboot files in the folder with the distiller exe. and etc?

thanks in advance

edit: Going to watch the videpo posted

edit 2: thanks for the video man!
[One (M7) Original Android Development] derwisz:
Q: s-off on locked 1.28.69.8

hello

i bought an orange locked phone ver. 1.28.69.8 and operator obviously forgot to release any upgrades to 1.29...

is it safe to use one of moonshine 1.29 s-off versions?

i mean if it won't work it is not a big problem but eventual brick rather is :)

help 1.28 users as even 1.29 via s-off upgrade would be an improvement to me...

and one more question...

if i use htcdev on locked 1.28 m7 / upgrade to 1.29 / use moonshine s-off / apply newest rom

and my phone needs a quarantee service - can i downgrade it to orange 1.28 and lock it as it was no htcdev/s-off treated?

thanks for help...
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
You have to follow the guide if it says support for 1.29.401.12 then don't use it if you have 1.28.401.7. It is very important that you match the firmware otherwise you can brick your phone.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] derwisz:
ok, so in my case am I still nailed to orange's moths-old-ruu?

or is there any way I can get 1.29 and s-off not voiding the guarantee?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
Check your messages.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] bluegizmo83:
OK did I do something wrong? I downloaded the correct file that matched my firmware (1.29.401.16) for windows, extracted everything and ran it as admin. Everything started out smooth, phone rebooted a few times, then on "Test 3: Rebooting into bootloader (again)" and then right after that I got "Waiting for fastboot (8/60)" and then it started doing the:

.....................................................

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and it's been doing this for over 20 minutes, just keeps adding more periods. I've attached a screenshot.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
+1
[One (M7) Original Android Development] beaups:
Is your device unlocked? It needs to be. Also, if you are running custom Rom that can create problems too. Lastly make sure fastboot and adb drivers are properly installed.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] beaups:
No.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] mimicuk:
HELP Please?

Can i s-off my ONE with software 1.28.161.7 on vodafone?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] bluegizmo83:
Device is unlocked. Fastboot and ADB all work fine, and I'm running a Custom ROM (Android Revolution HD 9.4) and a Custom Kernel (ElementalX 0.11)... I just decided to try the Revone S-OFF and it worked perfectly.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] swaroopg551:
S-off
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
Guys you have to have a matching software version it is simple as that.If your software version is not listed, then DON"T DO IT!! Because if you don't you can really screw up your phone. PAY ATTENTION to the instructions or you could do some serious damage.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] bluegizmo83:
Definitely pay attention to the instructions people! ... BUT, on a side note, the instructions are kind of poorly written, especially step 4 where it says:

"4. Download moonshine for your device. This must be to your ~/Downloads direrctory.

Do NOT try to download or run it from your Windows/Mac drive or a USB drive that is not formatted for native Linux use. It won’t work!"

that is very misleading, because it says do not download or run it from your windows drive, yet that is exactly what you MUST do in order to use it.... you can't run it from your android device, it has to be downloaded and ran on your PC.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] beaups:
Originally we didn't support windows at all, so the instructions were sane. We will get them updated.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
What would be the recommended way to do this if you already have s off via revone or is it even possible? Would love to have the eng bootloader.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] 123421342:
Theres a thread in this subforum with the posted eng hboot. Are you sure you need it?
[One (M7) Original Android Development] TarekElsakka:
Hello there

I am running Android Revolution HD 10.3 which is based on 2.17.401.1 and I cannot find the specified firmware here:

http://moonshine.io/moonshine-downloads/

Does that mean I cannot use your tool to disable security to S-OFF? Thanks
[One (M7) Original Android Development] a box of kittens:
Just go stock with a supported firmware
[One (M7) Original Android Development] Avengeme:
FYI I just tried this on a stock Rogers HTC One with 1.29.631.17 via Windows and it went through the "moonshining" 10 times then gave an error that said "failed, don't drink and shine"
[One (M7) Original Android Development] www_igor:
Not working on HTC One 802d (China Telecom)
[One (M7) Original Android Development] revamper:
If you have to ask, you shouldn't be using this tool.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] TarekElsakka:
Yeah, because it's shameful to ask and learn, right? I guess everyone was born knowledgeable about Android and its works except for myself.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] hotaru2k3:
no, it's just that if you can't read and figure things like that out for yourself, you won't have much (if any) use for s-off.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] angusc:
I run ARHD 10.2 and wanted the s-off but I had limited internet access and couldn't download the moonshine 20mb file. I went with the other version and all worked ok.

I'm sure this method still also works but for me the 20mb download prevented me.

Sent with desire from My One
[One (M7) Original Android Development] heart_crafter:
A friend of mine got this phone and trying to root it. And he does not want to format the device.

Is it possible to unlock bootloader, get s-off, preserve user data state, put cwm recovery and root?

Thanks :D

Edit:

Searched a bit more and found the solution. 'Superboot' HTC One root solution that requires S-OFF.

Edit2:

Found no way to unlock bootloader without wiping user data.
[One (M7) Original Android Development] :
Use revone soff
[One (M7) Original Android Development] LorD ClockaN:
Anyway to remove moonshine text on top of bootloader to look like stock so no one can see that has been tampered with?

I tried running revone's soff method over moonshine, but it stayed the same.. I suspect moonshine changed hboot.. ??