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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
im using the settings in my signatures

here are my updates on the situation that you seems to have missed, Faux doesn't change the stock throttling which is pretty bad, equally GPU OC doesnt really work on Faux ;)

read my two posts:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41782370&postcount=28

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41889783&postcount=6311

here is a reminder of what flar2 said:
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Is that like a rubbery feel to it? Or is it just regular hard plastic? It looks a bit frosty so I'm guessing decent quality plastic? How'd you tell TPU and regular plastic cases apart :P
[One (M7) General] ataft:
What are you guys using to monitor cpu and battery temperatures?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok here you go

replies affirming my tweet will help as well ;)

https://twitter.com/leoside/status/340100784475734017
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the soft rubbery "silicon" like ones are the TPU, the hard ones are plastic shells

i have two both from the same maker, both frosted transparent, the hard one feels cheap and plasticy, the one in the photo feels pretty nice and i like how it uncovers some of the shamfered edges

TPU seems to conduct heat and transfer it well, unlike the hard one which lets the device boil

still i prefer naked by a long margain

funny how casing is directly related to performance on this phone :laugh:

with its naked nature it's thermally much better than the Nexus 4 but if you cover it, you loose this advantage (stock speaking)
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Ah got it, will try to look for similar casings when my One gets out of the HTC hospital :P With the plastic cover, how much does the temperature actually increase? It can't be more than 1-2C can it? That probably goes over the throttle limit quicker so hence the bad performance ): I do like having the phone naked as well, but I worry too much about the plastic yellowing, and it's pretty damn humid where I'm from (90%+ humidity every day during day time) so sweaty palms are a constant worry, with the phone being so smooth it might just slip out of my hand and get smashed to pieces. Although I do have phone insurance from my telco that covers screen damage and even water damage :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the problem is that these covers dont contribute to temps but they disallow heat to escape like the metal heat sink intended

the TPU like u said, probably 1c or 2c

but the hard cover was pretty bad

The One X was impossible to play games with a hard cover if you remember (unless you enjoyed burning your fingers)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
anyway its clear the OP is due for a major rewrite, sorry for the confusion guys :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
Excellent posts, don't know how I didn't catch those previously. Just tried your settings on the notoriously laggy homerun battle 2 and got not lag :D

Using Trickster Mod, do you leave MPDecision on or off?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i didnt touch anything else, just using SIO scheduler for games

and i have now settled for GPU400 and 1700mhz, my priority is throttling so i dont care about GPU OC, also i can UC using setcpu profiles for games which doesn't need high clocks

im using the default throttling in ElementalX for safety but if you can use run hot to insure no throttle even further, it will tolerate 5 extre degrees

also we have confirmation of throttling on the S4, so i suggest you feel better because if you didnt encounter it on the S4 is just because of luck or ambient temps ;) when used naked the One actually deals with temps better than the s4

like i said the OP needs a major re write...
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
The S4 definitely throttles, I've just had better luck with it than my One. That being said, in less than 5 posts you've explained and solved my one real gripe about this device. Now time to use up my thanks for the day :D
[One (M7) General] nerv8765:
After playing around with settings, I've noticed that if my CPU speed is set at 1.5ghz or under, my speeds are fine, and benchmarks are good. If I raise it any higher than 1536, things start to lag and benchmarks take a big hit, almost 40% or so.

I have GPU set to 450 and throttling set to Run Hot, and no undervolting, so I wonder why it won't let me set it to 1.7ghz stock.

I turned GPU down to stock, gov to ondemand and sched to SIO, seems like things are working fine now. Weird. Hope it stays that way.
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
Hamdir: Just ran benches for 4.2.2

T-Rex HD offline: 843 frames, 15fps

Egypt HD offline: 4561 frames, 40fps

For comparison ran this against my I9500 (powervr gpu)

T-Rex HD offline: 692 frames, 12fps

Egypt HD offiline: 4826 frames, 43fps
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes we have a clear increase in Egypt HD, some people are scoring 41fps (vs 37fps), this is this the jump we've been talking about since the One was released ;)

how is the throttle situation? some people reported bad throttling
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
Throttling seems much improved since the device is producing much less heat for the same games in comparison to 4.1.2. No stutters or frame drops after a good 30 minutes. Battery life is also improved. I cannot quantify it yet since I've only been using the new leak for about 24 hours but GSAM is showing much better results with lower wakelock %.

Is their a good way to quantify throttling?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes keep playing a heavy game like MC4 until it starts lagging (this game never lags under 30-60fps unless its throttling on the HTC One)

one it lags exit and check the temps of the CPU and Battery, this way we know the threshold

on 1.29 + ElementalX + default throttling, i reach 55c CPU and 50c battery without throttling
[One (M7) General] ataft:
Yes, I believe it is 40/41 when it throttles as well. My temperature just stays dead at that temp, for the most part, and performance decreases.

How have temperatures, overall, been with the update? Are you getting a lower max temp?

It would be nice if HTC didn't throttle the GPU so heavily so quickly. It means that any AAA title will suffer on this phone in its stock configuration. I wouldn't be too worried seeing my phone straightline temps higher than it does now. I know I will be using custom kernels later, when I feel the desire to leave stock, but it is a bit foolish to have a flagship phone that won't play last year's games as they are meant to be played.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
with custom kernels with fixed throttling it plays them like a dream

and yes 40c is too low to kill the GPU for it, typical HTC over simplification of things

i am going back to 4.1.2 and ElementalX

we need someone to fix the thermald.conf for us, this would solve it for different bases and kernels without the need of a specific kernel

by the way i think deleting the file might fix it but also risks damage if the device ever cross the red lines
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well I confirm thermald.conf is not binary for the S4 I9505

i downloaded the 4.2.2 S4 ROM and i was able to extract the following files

/etc:

thermald.conf

thermald-8064.conf

thermald-8064ab.conf

thermald-8930.conf

thermald-8960.conf

thermal-engine-8064.conf

thermal-engine-8064ab.conf

thermal-engine-8930.conf

thermal-engine-8960.conf

/bin:

thermald

thermal-engine

the files which are included in the etc folder are all of them non binary, curiously we don't have all these files, instead on the m7 all we have is thermald.conf and thermald_boot.conf

on the s4, thermald.conf is a system to link /etc/thermald-8064ab.conf, so i think our file is thermald-8064?

curiously there is no mention of the GPU speeds in these files

sadly im back to 4.1.2 so i can't try anything at the moment
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
since i'm back to 1.29.401.16/4.1.2, i can confirm few things

Beach buggy blitz runs a lot better using Elemental X, from the first moment, even without throttling it ran badly on 2.17.401.1/4.2.2

NFSMW is smoother on stock 2.17.401.1/4.2.2 before it throttles

the best configuration for me remains, ElementalX, SIO or Noop schedulers, 1566mhz lock from the kernel installer (since the max speed will always reset by thermald without this lock) and GPU450mhz, this is the slowest heat up i have so far while inside my double flip cover and hot ambient

so for my PVS4, 1566mhz + GPU450mhz is still cooler for me than 1700mhz + GPU400mhz, the best thing with this configuration, i can always rely on power saver mode for super hot games, which will lock my device to 1134mhz + GPU450mhz

as for the stock 4.2.2 2.17.401.1 base, there are no easy solution, except trying to avoid heat by using it naked or in a cool ambience, delete thermal throttling but this is very risky or use the current patched 4.2.2 custom kernels with their bugs
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Ok, thanks for your last tips.

You use on demand isn't it ?

Are you sure power saver mod really sticks cpu frequency, cause it is not always the case when I check with cpu spy:mad:

I am at max 1536mhz on elemental x and when I use the power saver when playing rr3, the cpu always jump to 1536mhz :confused:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hmm im sure its sticks on stock, not sure about ElementalX

listen you can let go of 450 GPU, if throttling is this bad for u
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4386647]Riyal[/MENTION] [MENTION=2306478]bobsie41[/MENTION] [MENTION=4654138]py_martinez[/MENTION]

Through recovery and ADB, I have pushed a renamed text versions of thermald-8064ab.conf (modified max CPU clock to match our stock) to my stock 1.29 ROM plus stock kernel

the curious thing is that these stock files from the sgs4 I9505 don't seem to contain any throttling to the GPU and the CPU threshold are pretty relaxed (Max @ 70c, 67c), i pushed the same file twice (to system/etc/thermald.conf and system/etc/thermald_boot.conf)

after reboot the new thermald.conf files did stick and i have done the following to test it

i have played few games (MC4, NFSMW and BBB) on the charger with full brightness, i have set the GPU to performance governor and it shows running at 400mhz in faux clock

so far its seems to at least stop GPU throttling, i have reached 44c on the battery and 50c on the CPU, the gpu never dropped down, whenever i go back to faux clock it remained at 400mhz

now the question, is there any throttling safety at all? i need to figure out if the .conf is used at all in text format
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
An interesting article regarding the very inconsistent CPU throttling on most s4pro devices

http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=zh-CN&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.igao7.com%2Fapq8064-freeze.html

HTC Butterfly - conservative, 1134mhz @ 62c !!

nubia Z5 - conservative as well

Oppo Find5 - 1180mhz at 72c (makes more sense)

Nexus 4 is notorious for it's aggressive GPU throttling, by default the GPU throttles at 36c battery

A third party ROM, removed all throttling to the CPU and left only the shutdown

From my test the stock kernel HTC One seems to throttle around 40c and drops the GPU to 320mhz

I'm writing my own values for the stock HTC One kernel and we will see if the text file actually works
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
60C is actually way more than needed before throttling. Hardly anything goes over 55c so a 60+ throttle limit would be good. Lol 36 degrees, that's like ambient temp here on a hot day.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Anyone with stock 4.2.2 interested in trying this? i prepared zip files flash-able from recovery

you can flash the thermald.conf in text files with my modified values and restore to the stock 2.17 or 1.29 files
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Good work man ! Great analysis !

In conclusion and in simple words all that mean that the HTC one begins throttling at 40 °c battery temp ?

I think you're right cause with rr3 it lags (I can notice it) at 40-42 c .

So can you confirm that it occurs at 45 °c if you choose the run hot option in elemental x ?

What difference with the work you are doing now with thermals and the option running hot from elemental x ?

In conclusion do you think it is technically (by a dev) possible to avoid throttling till, for example 50 °c?

It would be a safety for the phone and would let us play big games !:)

If it is possible on the oppo find 5, why not with the HTC one ? :confused:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Like we saw in the butterfly HTC is being over protective with this throttling most likely for the sake of battery

As for Elemental X with run hot throttling will not begin before 65c, I use the default option which 5c less

As for the thermald tests, it's for the sake of stock kernel, for example the leaked 4.2.2 still has no kernel source
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4386647]Riyal[/MENTION] well the good news changing the thermald.conf and thermald_boot.conf will fix the GPU throttling but the text files are not really working, it's not really throttling anymore

So on one hand this sorts out throttling trouble and on the other hand we loose thermal safety

Still my device hardly cross 55c so I don't see any risk in stock clocks

If I was to use 4.2.2 and stock kernel I would disable these files

Once I flash the 4.2.2 Rom again I will try the text files again, but for now all that it does is disable the throttling feature
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Lovers of stock kernels or custom Kernels but with default GPU throttling, you can now control it thanks to [MENTION=2841310]jerrylzy[/MENTION]

I would use Stock no gpu throttling, the stock kernel max GPU is 400mhz anyway which is already underclocked and very safe, the CPU drop will be noticeable at 66c, if you want even more time with full CPU power go for performance patch but you will have to tolerate the heat

If you feel the device gets too hot for your taste, you can try the cool or extra cool versions, don't use ultra cool since it throttles the GPU

[How To]Modify HTC One's Thermal Files For Your Own Need
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Okay i rewrote the main OP to the best i can with the limited time i have

hope any of it makes sense :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Which app do you use to check the frequency of your gpu?

For example to check if the frequency has go down because of the temp or throttling...

I have maybe 10 info system apps but I didn't find the gpu info ! :confused:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] dlads:
My phone overheats like a biatch, so have the previous 3 phones before it, black and silver.

I've tried all kinds of CPU speeds and GPU, still gets hot, it's simply the way this phone is, the S4 is the same.
[One (M7) General] ataft:
What is your definition of overheating? The point where it starts throttling? I believe that point occurs far to soon, to be honest.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
You feel the heat more cos of the metal body but it also dissipates the heat much faster that way :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
im pretty sure you are using some pretty bad cover ;)

i had very bad heating with the plastic cover < better with the TPU cover < best with the double flip cover

really the double flip is the best, because of it's rubber and "roominess"

right now im using ElementalX + 1728mhz + GPU450 + Run cool, the device heats very slowly, i couldn't make it cross 55c while playing MC4 !

i know i said use 1528mhz, but i can see very clearly speed increase in games like NFSMW with 1728mhz, so i decided rely on ElmentalX run cool throttling (im pretty sure it only throttles the CPU And not GPU, but i still have to test it, almost impossible to make it throttle with the double flip cover)

dont forget background activity during gaming will greatly contribute to heating
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes stock throttling sucks and hence this guide

i would never rely on stock throttling for my gaming, either delayed throttling with custom kernels or i disable it completely
[One (M7) General] ataft:
I meant to quote dladz when I was asking that question. As far as I'm concerned, this phone gets throttled before it can overheat. Just wondering what temps he refers to as overheating.

The phone does get hot though, i'll give him that.
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
Why run cool? Doesn't it throttle really quickly then?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
testing it, never throttled for me with ElementalX

im trying run cool because i am assuming Flar2 simply throttles the CPU and not the GPU but i need to test it to confirm

in my opinion the best way is to throttle the CPU and never the GPU
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Hamdir didn't you say to use run hot to prevent throttling ?

Now I see that you mention run cool :confused:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
He is only testing what happens if it throttles on elementalx, to make sure the gpu doesn't get throttled.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
+1

also since i raised my clock back to stock 1728mhz + GPU450 and i also said "find your device sweet spot", each device will handle temps differently

running super fine for me, ever since i bought my double flip i never get mad temps

i will have to really push to throttle the bastard :)

[MENTION=4654138]py_martinez[/MENTION] so put simply, since our device runs game well in power saver clocks, im thinking the ideal throttling is to start at 1728mhz and slowly go down to 1134mhz without ever touching the GPU (wish we can configure this ourselves)

i will ask flar2 about the method on his kernel
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
The Double Flip from HTC? Thinking how much that is gonna cost over here D:
[HTC One S] Hmmy 4444:
is it possible to bring stock camera on custom roms????
[HTC One S] rootrider:
sense based - yes

aosp, aokp based - no
[HTC One S] blackcell1:
Or install vipers, and remove all sense bloat and run nova launcher instead.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
The guide for unlocking the Xperia Tablet Z's bootloader is now available

http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions

Same as the other xperias
[Xperia Tablet Z General] bibe74:
Bricked device?

Hi all,

I just got my Xperia Tablet Z, played around with the stock ROM and decided to unlock the bootloader, in order to install CyanogenMod 10.1 RC2.

I followed the official Sony guide to unlock the boot loader, using a freshly downloaded ADT bundle on an Ubuntu 13.04 installation.

No problem at all to get through the unlocking process, I rebooted and I got through the initial configuration (on a clean system, as I expected).

Just after powering off the device, putting it in fastboot mode again, extracting boot.img from an md5-verified cm-10.1.0-RC2-pollux.zip I sent these commands:

sudo ./fastboot -i 0xfce flash boot boot.img

sudo ./fastboot -i 0xfce reboot

and pressing the volume rockers (+/- volume controls, right?) a few times, nothing happened except a red, still, LED.

After a couple of minutes, pressing the + volume again resulted in a halt of the device, and since then nothing happens. No way to get into fastboot mode again... I don't wish to be the first to brick the Xperia Tablet Z!

Is there a "hardware reset" or something like that?

Thanks for all the help,

bibe
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Hondaracer:
You can try to flash your device using SUS.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] bibe74:
Still stuck

Thanks Hondaracer, but still no success: the device can't go into fastboot mode (required in step 2 of SUS). By the way, SUS asks to insert the USB cable while pressing Down volume, not Up as I did before. I tried both, of course, but no sign of activity.

Keeping power button and volume up pressed for 5-6 seconds makes the LED blink. Just after that, the tablet is supposed to reboot, but I get no visible sign of activity.

I also md5-checked the boot.img file after extracting it again from the cm file.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] shaun.s:
Locked Bootloader

My bootloader status says not allowed..

"Bootloader unlock allowed says No"

Is there anything I can do to unlock that?

I'm basically just wanting to install unbranded firmware. not liking the DoCoMo firmware..

Thanks
[Xperia Tablet Z General] shaun.s:
Unlocking

Might be of some help for some people...

My issue is im worried as I read somewhere that we need to back up the DRM codes or something to retain BRAVIA. anyone know how to back up the codes?

Unlock Bootloader Sony Xperia Tablet Z

May 20, 2013

SonyUnlock BootloaderXperia Tablet Z

To unlock your bootloader, you’ll first need a program to download and install the Android SDK (Software Developer Kit) from Google.

In order to unlock the bootloader on your Xperia Tablet Z you will need to obtain a code from Sony. The following process will help you acquire this code so that you can flash a custom recovery.

1.Open the Phone application on the Xperia Tablet Z and enter *#06# to obtain the device’s IMEI. Save this for later use.

2.Put the device into fastboot mode:

3.Open a terminal on the PC and enter fastboot -i 0x0fce getvar version

4.Navigate to unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com

•Agree to the ‘Are You Sure’ and ‘Legal Terms’ prompts to continue.

•Enter the first 14 digits of your IMEI from Step 1, enter a name and an email address.

•The unlock code should now appear, write this down for the next step.

5.In the PC’s terminal, enter the following command: fastboot -i 0x0fce oem unlock 0xKEY •KEY corresponds to the unlock code you were given.

The Xperia Tablet Z’s bootloader should now be unlocked.

Note:Unlocking the bootloader on a Sony device may automatically wipe internal storage; a backup of the sdcard is suggested.
[Xperia Tablet Z General] shaun.s:
Hey Jumper

Do you know nything about retaining the bravia2 after unlocking BL?
[Xperia Tablet Z General] jumper62:
I'm pretty sure it stays. Why? Unlocking the bootloader just give us permission to put customs roms
[Xperia Tablet Z General] Q.Entity:
You need ti back up the DRM keys. See threads in the Z and ZL forums.

Skickat från min Nexus 4
[Xperia Tablet Z General] shaun.s:
Yea I thought so.

I just cant find anything that's explaining the process..

I cant find where it says you will remove BRAVIA/DRM Keys if you unlock boot loader...

Once I do figure out how to back up DRM keys and then unlock boot loader how will one replace keys and will the boot loader need to be relocked again to gain BRAVIA again...or can you have BRAVIA on with unlocked bootloader..?

Thank you
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] TRAVISHOTCH84:
Device: AT&T Galaxy S3

Rom:[ROM] AOKP(Jellybean 4.2.2 )Task650 (5.14.2013) (AT&T)

I wanted to update to the devs newest release but i need to update my bootloader in order to do so and ive never done that so if you have any advice or something i can read up on that would be awesome
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Domoo:
I "I made some ODIN-flashable files that contain the bootloader, RPM, TZ, and baseband of the stated versions , so that people won't have to go completely back to stock TW. It's intended for those not on the necessary bootloaders yet so that they can flash future CM builds. Put them into the PDA section in Odin and flash away.

I747UCDLK3 (AT&T): http://d-h.st/L64

http://www.mediafire.com/?pu279m19ob7ufru

I747MVLDLK4 (Canadian): http://d-h.st/yqV

http://www.mediafire.com/?74b1e321p537f5d

Note: They're untested, but should work as intended. Tested by fellow users, works fine. Please flash at your own risk!

EDIT: Threw up Mediafire mirrors, since d-h.st seems to be down randomly."

Credit goes to another user who made this. It was posted on the cyanogenmod i747 thread.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1778270
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] xBeerdroiDx:
it's pretty simple and harmless. took me less than a minute. Domoo has linked you to Jiangyi's post on this topic, which includes his downloads and instructions. cheers
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] TRAVISHOTCH84:
well that was easy thanks for the help guys!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mrhaley30705:
Flashing a bootloader is not harmless. It is one of the few things that can hard brick this device.