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[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
I'm starting to think this isn't hoverchats fault. I've been messing around with this for a whole now trying to trick it into working by moving the apk and whatnot and get nowhere. So out of curiosity and a little research I thought I'd try something different with installing hangouts using it as default sms and disabling the factory app.

Well it turns out I can even set Hangouts, Googles OWN sms app, as default either!! So I tried others, I can not set ANY other sms app as default, only Samsungs app shows reguarldless, or nothing shows if it's disabled.

I'm not sure what ROM you're running but I'm on Jedi v1.1 for tmobile note 3. And I'm stumped. I even tried side loading the Galaxy s5 settings apk to see if they fixed my issue but nope. My next test is to sideload the s5s sms apk but I feel this issue is deeper than just an apk issue... :'(

Or maybe I'm wrong and you can set other apps as default and just not ninja, in which case I'm even more confused -_-
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
This may or may not work for you, it didn't work for me unfortunately but it did work for someone else I found with our issue. Use titanium backup to freeze the stock sms app. Doing so another xda user was able to get hoverchat to work.
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Thanks for the suggestion. unfortunately I'm currently unrooted until the issue regarding Knox becomes easier to deal with.

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] Robles23:
Compose new message feature?

Howdy guys!

Would this app ever feature to compose a new message without leaving the current app?

For example.. Occasionally, I would be playing a game. Suddenly I realize that I have to send a text message. I really hate having to close this app, open my messaging app, compose the message and then back into the game. I would love a feature to compose one without leaving the current window.

Besides that is a very solid app overall.
[Android Apps and Games] 1First1:
+1 for what's app compatibility.
[Android Apps and Games] Tapsibaba:
Well, another feature could be really great and we can find it on other SMS applications. (such as chomp I think)

It is the auto-activation of the data when you are receiving a new MMS. It is really useful, even if you're phone is sleeping, you receive the MMS and you can watch it immediatly after waking up the phone. The other feature is the auto-activation of the data communication when you're sending a MMS, no message to activate the data when you send it, the phone do it itself. I think these features could be a real improvment for people who have a small amount of data and don't want to leave it enable all the time.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Alright fair enough, out of curiosity are you able to set Hangouts or any other app as default sms?
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Yes, I have no problem with setting any as my default. I've switched a number of times with various messaging apps, all set without a hitch. This includes hangouts

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
There has to be something we have in common then... I was in the thread for my rom trying to get help and eliminated a bunch of options and the fact that your not even rooted eliminates a bunch of other options as well. Do you have T-Mobile? Do you use Google voice or any other apps that may some how connect to messaging? I'm trying to think what it is we share that is causing us both to have this issue.

Edit: so, I did a data wipe via recovery (not a full factory reset, just data only) then installed hoverchat right away with no other apps. Guess what, it let me set it as default!! So this is not hoverchats fault, that being said I don't know what the hell is casing this :'(
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Yes I do have T-Mobile, Google voice is a no. I currently am not using it.

posted while using my note 3

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Your currently running a rom correct?

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Yes im running Jedi v1.1. Its definitily not Hoverchats fault though im currently using Hoverchats with no issues since i did a dta wipe. I believe the only way youre going to be able to get it working again is with a factory reset. Wipe Its been ages since i said that haha

Did you use ODIN to upgrade or did you receive the OTA update? I feel like this issue is stemming from legacy data left from 4.3 info, since I received the issue from using titanium to restore my 4.3 Data bit don't have it now that I did a clean install.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
So, after a fresh install I decided to do a titanium restore of all my apps one at a time, what a painstaking process that was!! Anyhow the relevancy is, turns out my problem was an xposed framework mod. The mod was called custom share which allowed to to select which apps to wanted to have displayed when you selected the share option in any situation.

Now I know you're not rooted and I believe xposed requires root so this is probably not the source of your issue. But it does prove SOMETHING is causing it and that it isn't Hoverchats fault.

I'm not sure if there is a stand alone app comparable to the closed one I was using that maybe you have installed or what but I wish you luck in finding what's the true culprit of your problem!
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
How do you get it to let me send mms but it says apn won't auto detect it
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
If it won't auto detect the must manually go into your apn and copy the needed information and past it into Hoverchat (MMSC/MMS Proxy/MMS Port) I have T-Mobile all I had to copy was:

MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

Everything else was left blank and it works perfectly (faster than stock if you ask me) what you need to copy may be different depending on your phone/carrier but it's the same concept.
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
I'm also on T-Mobile note 3 running Jedi Rom
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
MMSC: http://mms.msg.eng.t-mobile.com/mms/wapenc

That should be all you need then, just copy it from here and past it into MMSC on Hoverchat and you should be good to go. Mind you I have a custom apn set so that I can tether, though the only difference is IP4 selected instead of IP4/IP6 like the stock apn. Though I don't think that affects this situation at all.
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
[MENTION=4931670]MostafaGazar[/MENTION] Congrats on the Lifehacker article.
[Android Apps and Games] MostafaGazar:
Thank you, I really believe that our users are the main reason Lifehacker, makeuseof, TechCrunch, ... write about HoverChat. Your feedback and enthusiasm help us make the app better for everyone.

I apologize if I am not as active here as I used to be :|, will try to be more present.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Congratulations as well the app is working great for me now that I figured out what was causing my issue. My only problem now is the Facebook sync force closes the app. It's not a huge deal since I just use sync.me instead. But I've tried uninstalling/reinstalling I even went on Facebook and revoked the apps permissions to access my account so that it would be forced to ask again and start fresh. I'm on the newest donation build.
[Android Apps and Games] dragonzee:
Looking awesome :good:
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
What does the purchased app offer from the free one is it just to donate to the Dev ?
[Android Apps and Games] MostafaGazar:
Thank you, Facebook sync issues should be fixed in the update if you wanted to try it in the future.
[Android Apps and Games] MostafaGazar:
You can download everything in the store for free in the purchased version beside supporting us of course.
[Android Apps and Games] Siyad@AM:
Hmmmm ......... Great IDEA . Nice WORK :D But you should have added a few more to free version :(
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
There is a lot already included for free with this app. If you want the extras, get the donate version and support the dev.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Do you mean the current update or one coming in the future? I have the most current paid version update and the issue persists there.
[Android Apps and Games] MostafaGazar:
I meant the coming update, planned for later tomorrow.

Update:

2.0.9 update is now ready btw
[Android Apps and Games] Siyad@AM:
OK............But I cant right now :D
[Android Apps and Games] casimi:
Is there an option to stop hoverchat from auto saving every photo received via MMS? I have looked, but perhaps I overlooked the option.
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
Just paid for the app to support just have a request for a privacy mode please
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
When you say a privacy mode do you mean that the notification doesn't display the body of the text box in the notification bar? Because the app already has this function.

Press menu>settings>sms/mms>sms settings. Check the privacy mode box.
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
Did not see this thanks
[Android Apps and Games] ubas90:
Very nice and smooth app! To to it

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[Android Apps and Games] mentesorda:
crush crshu and also more crush

i'm using this app for months,now the other day i rooted my gn3 and flashed an xnote rom,now everytime i go into store and click on something app crush,so i can't personalize this app,i tryed to uninstall adn reinstall,with the result that i lost all of the previous them i had D: what can i do for resolve this? D:
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Anyone having issues with this app not wanting to send longer sms? It seems of I go over 2 messages worth of charters the message fails to send, if I copy it and break it into smaller individual texts it goes through fine

Also I'd like to suggest a way to lock messages, unless I'm missing it I see no way in this app to lock any texts.

T-Mobile note 3
[Android Apps and Games] mentesorda:
yes me too,sometime long text can't be sended,and sometimes he give no problem.

but my main problem is that app crush everytime i click on a content in the hoverchat store,and i don't know hot to resolve this,it start yesterday when i flashed an xnote rom on my note 3.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Do you have T-Mobile or a different carrier? Trying to figure out if this is carrier related or app. As for your theme issue, did you restore data from titanium when you flashed your new Rom? I had an issue like this after a restore, I had to use a root file exporer and searched "ninja" then deleted EVERYTHING related to ninja sms (Hoverchat) and reinstalled from play store fixed me right up. Also if you are now running a 4.4 Rom from 4.3 there seems to be some issues.
[Android Apps and Games] robert90262:
Lately the app crashes in the middle of a text or receiving a mms
[Android Apps and Games] mentesorda:
i have a different carrier but i use this app for month,i restored data from titanium and gave me the error,i earesed all data and app from titanium and reinstalled and still give me the error,the app itself go well,but i can't access any content of his store.

also i have a 4.4+ fw with a 4.4+ rom
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Titanium or even regular wipe doesn't seem to get all the data try a manual search and delete it should work.
[Android Apps and Games] mentesorda:
i deleted the entire titanium folder i got in the storage also tried to fiend other hoverchat files with file manager but nothing,still give me this problem,hoverchat did not want me anymore ;(
[Android Apps and Games] Chyeo1979:
Hi, I can't get this app to work when I assigned it as my default SMS app, it just refuse to send out SMS. However, it works fine when it's not the default app. Any idea what's wrong? Really like the chat heads concept.

Using Note 3. Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
What version of Android are you running?
[Android Apps and Games] Chyeo1979:
4.4.2
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
I had issues with hoverchat when I switched to 4.4.2 as well, ended up being issues with an zoomed framework module. For me it was "custom share" I recommend flashing the default restore xposed zip that the app stores on your SD card then re-enable each module till you find the one breaking the app. I'm using 4.4.2 with hoverchat as my default app right now and it works like a charm now.
[Android Apps and Games] xMinistro:
Hi, Led light is not working in my S4. Is it a bug?
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
Give more info. OS version, ROM. Running any LED controlling apps like Lightflow, etc?
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Try enabling light flow support under settings, fixed it for me.
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
And now a nod from Engadget! Nice.
[Android Apps and Games] les02jen17:
hello! just wanted to ask if there's any progress at all for dual sim support? i guess it isnt really a priority, but... who knows, maybe it's in the works? hahaha... :fingers-crossed:
[Android Apps and Games] monsieurtalbot:
So I'm on an AT&T Note 3 running a Stock based rom on 4.4.2 - latest AT&T official release... "Dynamic Kat" - running the paid version of the app.

I entered my MMS settings and am able to receive photos no problem, I didn't have any problem sending them either.

My issue comes in to play when someone with an iPhone tries to MMS me a contact card... I get the download button no problem, but hover chat never loads the contact card and I find myself having to go through a series of steps to get regular Messaging re-enabled just to get that one message. Would be great to see support for this...

I also +1 the feature request to have a button push or gesture enable a pop up window to send a new text... This is an essential feature for sure.

Cheers and thanks for a great messaging app that I can finally tell my friends to use. =)
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
[MENTION=4931670]MostafaGazar[/MENTION] +1 for this. Looks like HoverChat doesn't currently support .vcf (vcard) files. So, after it downloads, it becomes a "[null]" message. Strangely, if you back out to the conversation list, it actually DOES show part of the vcard, but when entering the conversation, it shows nothing.
[Android Apps and Games] dgcarrie79:
Lockscreen question

Is there a setting that I can change where the popup won't come up on the lock screen? I have another notification app that puts things on the lock screen, so it's redundant. I'd prefer for the chat head to be there only after I unlock my phone.

Thanks!! I love the app overall. Just a few little things that are bugging me.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I can not send or receive text messages or pics with this app once this is set as the default messaging app on my VZW note 3 running the leaked 4.4.2 software. If I open the stock messaging app, once HoverChat is set as default, it says "unable to send message" in the text field as well. Any suggestions? I emailed the developer last week but never heard back.
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
Seems like everyone that has any problems with this app is on the Note 3. Phone must be funky.
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Yup... Still not working for me. Note 3

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
You probably have to set your mms proxy under settings.

I'm having issues still issues with some texts over 1 sms limit not sending. It's completely random sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't. And lately if I have a few heads open with unread messages and I get a new message, all the tones go off again (I have different tones for different people.) So I receive 1 text from one person and all the unread messages tones go off too.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
There is nothing related to proxy in HoverChat's settings.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
From the main page in Hoverchat hit Menu>SMS/MMS>MMS Settings>ANN Settings>Auto-Detect APN settings.

Auto detect may or may not work, if it doesn't just manual enter the correct information in the options below auto detect

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It took a while but I finally got mine working. Turned out to be an issue with xposed.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
Thanks, that actually fixed it for me.
[Android Apps and Games] zivonex:
using it for few days and i must say its the best SMS app i tried!

AMAZING APP!
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Glad I could help, be sure to click the thumbs up its much appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
It actually just stopped working, how do I setup the APN settings manually?
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
must be some other problem at work here. wouldnt just work then not work for no reason. running a custom rom? maybe it tweaks your apn itself and is messing it up. try to investigate all possibilities
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Basically you go into your APN settings through your regular settings app, right down the needed info and then back in Hoverchat you manually enter them into the settings below auto detect. That's what I had to do. It is strange that it worked then stop so I'm inclined to believe what the poster above me stated, it's not Hoverchat at fault now. My guess would be network issues.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I made a backup this morning and then installed HC and it worked fine with the auto APN setting. I tried a mod that didn't work and restored the backup, now when I install HC I can't get it working.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Was it an xposed mod? I had this same issue with xposed, had to flash the safety file xposed creates when you first use it. It should be on the root of your SD card. Flash it, it will undo all of your xposed mods, but all you have to do is re-enable them and restart th phone. Apparently a restore doesn't actually undo some xposed mods, I went through this when I couldn't set HC as my default app. Had to re-enable every xposed 1 by 1 till I found the problem then refresh, flash the xposed restore and re-enable my mods.

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If you Google your phone model plus your carriers name and APN settings (example T-Mobile Note 3 APN settings) you should find them too. But it should be in setting under mobile network
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
It was just a simple UI mod. I did try removing the Xposed framework but that didn't help. I just can't figure out why it worked earlier but won't work now since nothing has changed. I've messed with it for about an hour and at this point I'm giving up.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Mine was something really stupid too that caused it to break it's nuts. So you flashed the zip xposed creates on your SD card and still go nowhere? Unfortunately after that I'm kinda out of ideas without seeing your setup hands on.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
Yeah, I flashed the zip and without Xposed it still doesn't work. The thing that bugs me so much is that it was working fine until I installed it a second time.

Edit: I find it odd that I can use any other SMS app from the Play Store without issues except for this one. I feel like it's an issue with this app specifically.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Thanks strange. The entire process I went through was this:

1. Titanium back up current apps.

2. Total wipe (system/data/cache/dalvik cache)

3. Clean install of ROM

4. Flash Xposed restore file

5. Remove SD card and Boot (allow 10 minutes do not touch the phone or sign into anything)

6. Restart phone

7. Set up phone sign in

8. Allow your apps to download via Google sync

9. Via Titanium Restore apps and data for apps that were sideloaded or Xposed Downloader (making sure n

10. Restore DATA only on the apps that did download from Google (except Hoverchat!!)

11. Restart phone allow 10 minutes to boot do not touch the phone.

12. Profit?

I know it's a butch but it worked for me.
[Android Apps and Games] LittleHawkZ:
Custom Vibration

Hi can you add a custom vibration , that i can create my own for notification ? it can be cool :)
[Android Apps and Games] mrbubba999:
What's the difference between the free version and paid? Is there anywhere to get more themes?
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
Paid version gets everything in the theme store for free. The only themes available are those in the built-in store.
[Android Apps and Games] DaPhinc:
I encountered some inconvenience sendig an invitation to 16 contacts lately. To make this easier, i have two feature requests:

- implement a contact list where i can check/uncheck contacts to send the message to

- if i send a message to more contacts, somehow let me see to which contacts i sent it. All i can see is the first recipient and the total number of recipients.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I tried installing this on a brand new VZW Note 3 for my wife and, like my Note 3, the app will not send or receive any messages once enabled as the default messaging app.:(
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
I've had issues with this app on my T-Mobile Note 3 for at least 2 months. I sort of gave up getting it functioning. Not too dishearten you but there had great difficulty getting this working with it for some ungodly reason.

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
Should we start a new rule: No Note 3s? XD Only phone it doesn't work on, seems like that phone is dumb :P
[Android Apps and Games] hasbrobot:
Ha

posted while using my note 3
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Have you manually set the APN settings in the app? Also is the phone rooted with any Xposed settings?
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I've tried a ton of messaging apps and this is the only one that does not work so I really think it's more app related than phone related.

My wife's is stock but mine is rooted with Xposed framework. I've tried setting the APN manually but it did not help.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Almost every other app worked for me, I had issues with hangouts and Hoverchat both and it turned out to be an Xposed mod I installed called custom share. The thing is I couldn't just disable the mod I had to flash the zip Xposed creates km your SD card then go back in and re-enable all the other mods again besides the one that broke hangouts and Hoverchat. I don't believe it is fully HoverChat's issue simply because I did have issues with other apps. But your problem is different than mine. I was running 4.4.2 idk of you are too or not.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I'm on 4.4.2 as well, after flashing the zip to remove Xposed I was still unable to get it working. I've even completely wiped my device and did a fresh ROM install and it still doesn't work.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Hmm, idk I guess this app just rally does hate th note 3

Its been working great for me since I figured out the Xposed thing. I have T-Mobile not sure if that makes a difference. My only issue with it besides the occasional lock up, is it randomly picks and chooses when it wants to send longer then 140 character messages. Sometimes they go through most times they fail.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
Just to add to the mystery if I leave the stock messaging app as default I can send/receive messages but the Hover Chat notification sound will not play at all.
[Android Apps and Games] dcwiker05:
Thats due to the way 4.4 handles texting apps only one app can make notifications now it's dumb because if you reply to the message with Hoverchat it won't clear the notification of the stock app.

I liked being able to use both apps at the same time because Hoverchat still has some major draw backs that the stock app made up for.
[Android Apps and Games] airmaxx23:
I'd just like to be able to use the nice Chatheads type pop-up feature. For now I'm just sticking with stock and SMS Pop-up.
[Android Apps and Games] se1988:
What's the difference between free and paid app?
[Android Apps and Games] gohamstergo:
Two pages back.