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[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Review of Milaq's CM10.1 Build

Like I posted previously, I dirty installed this build over the top of J.C. Sullins 0418 experimental Rom along with the 20130301 Gapps required for JB 4.2.2. All I did was clear Dalvik cache and the regular cache via CWM. Nothing from the CM10 install was lost. All my apps, their settings and data survived. First thing I looked for was the SD card check routine that runs for around 30 seconds after boot completes. I did not find the little SD card icon showing in the notifications area or see any text like "Preparing SD card or Checking for errors." One would have to assume that J.C. Sullins would not leave that out of his commits and he did FIX his 0418 build so one sees the SD card icon in the notifications area. Something worth looking into knowing how important the (internal/fake) SD card is to our TouchPad.

This Rom is smooth. Everything I checked works with the exception of the camera. That means the mic, audio, HW acceleration all work. I have not checked gyro or compass. Battery drain is low, like -4/-5mA drain while asleep. I have not experienced the recent apps issue that others have reported. Something is definitely wrong with the camera drivers. I've tried the Gallery camera and Ucam v.3.02, both of which work flawlessly on CM10, and after a few seconds I get a "Camera has stopped". A picture comes up, but is frozen. WiFi will not come back on after the TouchPad has been asleep for a while. I have to turn it off and back on to get it working. I did experience this same problem on several other 4.2.2 Roms I tried, so it's not just this build.

Hope the Milaq can get the Battery Stats code included in a future build. It is helpful in keeping track of what uses the battery the most. Yes, I could install some Play Store app, but Battery Stats does all I need without installing another app to the glut of apps I already have. I did try flashing J.C.'s CM10 battery stats patch, but that resulted in a boot loop.

I've played around with trying to get PIE working and so far have not been successful. I did have the opportunity to play with it on Shumash's Schizoid 4.2.2 build, but honestly, don't see it becoming a part of my daily use.

I have not experienced any FC'ed apps or operating system crashes so far. While others have reported some of this. I have never had this kind of problem all the way back to CM7. Lucky I guess.

So as of this writing, I can live with the WiFi issue and don't see anything that's a deal breaker, so this is going to stay installed as my daily driver.

I look forward to reading about what others are finding. IMHO, this Rom was worth waiting for. My hat is off to milaq, J.C. Sullins and Dorregary for getting this working on the TouchPad and to all the other developers around the world for helping with the development of CyanogenMod.
[TouchPad Development] post-mortem:
I thought each user had their own color, so the 1st user would always be blue.
[TouchPad Development] chicle_11:
I wiped cache and davlik cache and formatted system. I installed it over SGA'S 10.1 rom.

I don't use bt, so that's not a problem for me.

As you can see from my post a while ago, battery life in deep sleep is pretty good.

I'll be using this as my dd for now.

Thanks to all the devs who made this possible!
[TouchPad Development] slicetwo:
Question about installing.

When I load new roms onto my gs3,i like to do a full system wipe. I format data and sd card, and wipe everything. If I do that with the touch pad, will I lose Web os?
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
You can uninstall Android and WebOS will still always be there. You can wipe the tablet from WebOS too, if you want to clear all the data but uninstalling and reinstalling is probably good enough.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Testing CM10.1

Been doing a little testing. Battery life during sleep seems good but i'm still building a good amount of log history. I ran a benchmark to compare the performance with CM10, the picture is below about a 300 point difference. My audio still fails to play when the screen goes off, kind of a deal breaker for me but hopefully this will be fixed soon. The camera works for a few moments but crashes, seems to have been turned off due to the high battery drain it was causing, I can't wait to see further development :fingers-crossed:
[TouchPad Development] slicetwo:
Does this mean I can format

System

Data

Sdcard

And not worry about losing webos, then flash the nightly via Odin, then flash new nightlies via goo manager?
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
We are still talking about the HP Touchpad here right? Flashing the nightly via Odin? You do know we use CWM or TWRP with the Touchpad?
[TouchPad Development] slicetwo:
i meant acmeinstaller... and if you format everything, which you can do via CWM, you will lose EVERYTHING saved on the TP for android, right? therefore, you'd need to flash the file via acme, right?
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Well yes you can format the SDcard from CWM or TWRP which will delete Android data but leave WebOS intact. Once you've cleaned it out you can install everything via ACME3 or just flash the Rom and Gapps files through CWM or TWRP. You must make sure you are using CWM6 and not CWM5.

However I wouldn't format everything. Make a nandroid backup of your current setup before you do anything. Despite what people say this Rom isn't ready for daily use like CM9 or CM10. Its still ruff around the edges with no Camera or Bluetooth and Wifi issues. Its still at the same level SGA's first build was at with the H/W video patch. Don't be too quick to jump in the water before you test the temperature.
[TouchPad Development] slicetwo:
Gotcha. With my gs3, i format everything and install with odin, but i wasn't sure if there was an equivalent with the TP. Thanks!
[TouchPad Development] MikeFRG:
Wipe dalvik / dalvik cache, and install this build afterwards the gapps and than reboot!

All over Cwm / TWRP
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
+1 but don't forget to make a Nandroid backup first:good:

How to make a Nandroid backup video:

[YOUTUBE]zuhGcXSoXjc[/YOUTUBE]
[TouchPad Development] HashTagHell:
So since flashing, I've discovered I couldn't care less about Bluetooth. The wifi is the biggest issue and possibly camera, but let's be real...the camera on the Touchpad is ass anyway. Running strong besides a bit of lag though.
[TouchPad Development] shawa2:
Hey all, I seem to have hit a problem. I appreciate this is a dev thread but any help would be great!

Basically I went to reboot my touchpad and now it won't turn on. I'd just flashed this rom over jcsullins 1804 build by wiping cache and dalvik as suggested. All was working fine.

I'd then set up multi user and it seemed to be fine. I hit reboot to test that it saved users and now it won't turn on...

Any ideas?
[TouchPad Development] daedric:
Could it be battery?
[TouchPad Development] Scotty_Two:
You will never lose WebOS. You don't need to format if you're coming from CM10, just flash in your recovery and wipe dalvic/cache.
[TouchPad Development] Nathanation:
I've tested OTG with this ROM using my Y cable and power source (which worked with cm9/10) but it does not work on this ROM, if possible can support for OTG be added?

I use my touchpad for editing/viewing photos from my DSLR camera so its very useful to be able to plug in SD cards with otg.
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
this should do it: https://github.com/milaq/android_de...mmit/28ea6feb2e1f14856103dc3f48983c5dc868e6d5
[TouchPad Development] nickster1:
Thank you milaq!
[TouchPad Development] chrizzk:
Just installed the latest nightly (20130708) and now I can't access my internal storage (sd-card) any more... :/ (/mnt/sdcard/ is empty)

Pls fix, guess it may be related to the OTG commit?

Edit: Went back to 20130706, and sd-card works again!
[TouchPad Development] milaq:
yup, you're right.

missed an overlay xml in the previous commit.

rebased it to include aforementioned file.

see https://github.com/milaq/android_de...mmit/60375ad9bef726b8e726304a3373c925a5891ae9

edit: i also removed the 20130708 build and rescheduled one on my buildbot. should be up soon with the fix included.

edit|2: i also updated the first post to include a link to the wifi driver commitlog.

reg. the deepsleep sod: the latest commit by jcsullins may be able to fix it.
[TouchPad Development] vinukondamahesh:
plz help

sd card needs to bemounted error
[TouchPad Development] wetwaterdog:
I installed the latest version, then went to my favorite game "Tanked".

The screen at the bottom had about 1" of overlap from the top of the screen....

I tried adjusting the resolution but had no luck.

Went back to cm9 and all was well.

Would love to use 10, but not sure how to fix the display issue on this game.
[TouchPad Development] Nathanation:
Thank you so much :D I will test tonight and report back!
[TouchPad Development] Nathanation:
Is that commit for OTG included in the latest build?

I installed the 8/7 build but OTG not working at present, at least not with my setup. I use chain fires stick mount app to mount my USB card reader, it reports "no device" I'd be happy to test any future builds :)

Edit - briefly worked with another otg app - USB OTG Helper :)
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
This is not CM10, it is CM10.1, Jelly Bean 4.2.2. You should try J.C. Sullins latest experimental build. I have used Tanked on that and it worked fine. CM10.1 has several issues that are still being worked out and until they are, you would be better off on a more mature build like CM10.
[TouchPad Development] newbieandroid:
Haven't tried any of the new ones because 7/01/2013 has all the issues that I had with the tablet fixed. The main issues I had with older builds were the speaker beep and no sound along with the multitasking button not responding along with the so called sleep of death.

I have not experienced any of those issues with this build.
[TouchPad Development] Razor512:
Is there any way to port over the CM9 UI to android 4.2.2?

1024x768 = too much screen space being wasted from having a bar on the bottom and top of the screen.

CM9 had a single bar at the bottom which provides a lot of functionality and did not take up much vertical screen space.
[TouchPad Development] fraydz:
there's no need to port CM9 things, you just have to set the appropriate UI. See here for what you are looking for.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Anyone can verify if hidden WiFi access point works? I am running 7/5(July 5th) nightly, and everything works just right accept hidden networks won't connect.
[TouchPad Development] uamis:
WIFI loosing connectlion / H.W. accell not working?

I have just loaded the latest nightly and not sure I fhis is a jelly bean issue or just something I need to live with. I am connecting to my wifi. just fine.. however after a few minutes I am losing the connection to the wifi..The blue wifi icon turns grey. also.. sometimes the HW acceleration while watching you tube videos stops working..not sure if there is a fix . Any help would greatly be appreciated..

Thanks
[TouchPad Development] poqonos:
I have been noticing the same past couple nighties, I will try out 7/9 nightly today when i am done downloading it(goo.im is very slow today).
[TouchPad Development] cqloveqc:
i have wifi problem too, i couldn't even connecter to wifi, because my wifi is a hidden wifi, so it just says the signal is not in range, but actually it is

so far, 06 28 version works fine
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Let me address you guys that are hiding your SSID. If you have changed the factory user ID and password on your router to something that only you know, and are using WPA 2 security, and a good strong security key/password, I would suggest that hiding your SSID is not really necessary unless you are storing government secrets on your computer or something like that. Its good that you have discovered and are reporting the issue, but if it's your home computer that you're trying to connect to, just turn your SSID back on and then you won't have an issue.
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Fine and dandy from your viewpoint, but I don't want anyone to casually see that I have a AP that they can try to hack into. Since hidden SSID has worked on previous drivers, I see no reason that the solution is to give up the feature.
[TouchPad Development] post-mortem:
Actually, overall, hiding the SSID is less secure. Not because the router isn't broadcasting the SSID, but because every device which is connected to the router is broadcasting the SSID. It's something like how cell phones are constantly broadcasting their location, looking for a closer cell tower, sending out secure information in order to connect.

Here's a good article which explains it:

Debunking Myths: Is Hiding Your Wireless SSID Really More Secure?

If there are no real hackers, hiding your SSID might help deter amateurs. It's tough to know where the real hackers are, though.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
You may be right, but some of the access point are beyond my control. My home access point is not hidden and it works imcredibly fine, but one at work which is hidden that i don't have control over won't connect running nightly of July 5th. Sometime, out of sight out of mind is the best security approach. If someone is going to hack in yours, it won't stop, but I am worried about few newbie hacker wanna be.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
OK, then have a look:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2865...hiding-your-wireless-ssid-really-more-secure/

And check #3 here:

http://tech.federatedmedia.net/7-wireless-security-facts-protect-wi-fi-network/

I agree it should work, but it's kind of like hiding your house key under your front door mat.

Let me know what you think about the 2 links are provided.
[TouchPad Development] dplane:
This. Hiding your ssid does nothing to deter or prevent the real hackers from getting into your network. Sure newbs can visually detect your network easier but if you have a halway decent router and are not using factory defaults the amount of damage they can do is pretty darn limited. Oh and watch your routers firmware upgrades.. Linksys had a major security flaw when WPS was/is turned on..if anything that would be the thing to turn off imho

Still.. I can understand the frustration if folks try to connect to networks they don't manage
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Very good information and valid to an extent. I already knew most of it, but here's where I stand on it:

1. It's not that difficult to link to a non-broadcasting SSID because you only have to do it once. My TP automatically connects after that. The Windows connection stuff is bogus because it doesn't relate to the Android wifi connection scheme.

2. Every time I turn on my wifi, I can see everyone in the neighborhood, but they can't see me. To say that hackers and power users can use other tools to hack my SSID is like saying that leaving your car unlocked is OK, because determined thieves can always get into it. They're not the one's I'm worried about; I have very strong WPA-PSK2 passwords.

3. The fact that my device broadcasts my SSID in locations away from my router is no big deal. It's like yelling my middle name in a crowd at the mall. It's not going to help them find my house.

So I reiterate, if routers are made without the capability to hide the SSID, then I won't expect software to make connections to hidden SSID's. In the meantime, I shouldn't have to change the way I do things just because others have partially valid ideas about why I should.
[TouchPad Development] wetwaterdog:
Gave the Sullins version a try and ended up with the same results. About 1" of the screen from the top is displayed on the bottom on the TP making it hard to see the game controls. I tried changing the DPI to greater and less...both attempts ended up black screening the boot of CM10. I had to use the 10sec hold to reboot. It could be the game itself. The game displays fine with CM9, but craps under any version of 10.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Well, I just recently clean installed O.a.T.'s June 27th CM10.1 Rom on one of my touch pads, and had not installed and tried Tanked on that version yet. I just finished installing and playing it and it worked perfectly so I don't know what to tell you. Are you installing these ROMs from scratch so there's no leftover junk from a previous Rom?

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OH, I agree! The problem needs to be fixed. There are always going to be routers that one does not have control over. I'm just pointing out that hiding ones SSID isn't really a security feature. It may make you feel secure but you really aren't. There's no point in shooting oneself in the foot if I'm unhiding your SSID at home will make it work properly. And personally I like to have fun with my SSID name. My SSID name is "Get Off My Network".:silly:

You just gave me an idea, maybe I'll change the name to "National Security Agency" or "Department of Defense Nuclear War Room."
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
have you tried using pie? it works quite well now. give it a go.
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Thanks, milaq
[TouchPad Development] feydakin:
Is there any way to make this nightlies official so that we can get it from the cm server instead of the crappy goo one? Sometimes the download time is longer than the period between two releases...

Gesendet von meinem TouchPad mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
The only way it would be official is if CyanogenMod made it. Which they don't. So no.

Goo, however, has been pretty fast for me lately.
[TouchPad Development] rg2:
On 7.11 nightly my power button doesn't wake the device, although the home button does. Anyone else experiencing this?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I'm still on July 27 for obvious reasons such as yours. However, here is a little tip for you. Get out of the habit of using the power button to wake up your device. Remember all the A6 Firmware issues we have been talking about? I posted the following on Rootzwiki and several other forums including XDA somewhere. Probably worth a repost:

In the for what it is worth department, I have become suspicious of constantly using the power button to wake up my TouchPads. I have switched to using the "home" button for that function and I'll tell you why. Have you ever forgotten whether your TP is turned off or just asleep. I can regularly duplicate the following: if my TP is turned off and I'm thinking it is asleep, if I tap the power button to wake it up and it does not, I then have to press and hold the power button for 15 to 20 seconds, instead of the normal 4 to 5 seconds, to get it to turn on. I don't like the fact of this happening, so now I use the "Home" button to wake up the TP. If I don't get any response, then obviously it's turned off and I can press the power button for the normal 4 to 5 seconds to turn it on.

My thinking is that the "tap" of the power button sends a momentary spike of voltage to those circuits that control the turning on of the TP and they don't like it. Who knows, this may even be part of the cause of the "bricking" syndrome that has been plaguing so many people. Long and the short of it, I'm not taking any chances at having an event that requires running the "Debricking" process or any other battery anomaly that others have been reporting. You might want to make this a habit yourself.
[TouchPad Development] rg2:
Thanks for the tip. Incidentally for some reason the power button is waking the device again, but I will try and get in the habit of using the home button and see if I see some improvement.
[TouchPad Development] cloakzore:
CyanogenMod isn't some official group of people, it's an inherently decentralized project. To make it official you just submit your code, make sure it's compatible, and put some official maintainers up. Then you're part of CyanogenMod.

They even have a guide on how to do it and what is required:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Doc:_Submitting_A_Port
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
Well even so, I dont think our device passes the prerequisites they mention in that link.
[TouchPad Development] Nomedias:
I'm guessing Bluetooth is a major show stopper. That said, the CM9 Nightly is official so there is hope.
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
its not really official anymore. they are no longer building for it.
[TouchPad Development] alexeiw123:
I may be wrong, but I think that the kernel being based on the old gingerbread kernel is the major reason that the touchpad isn't officially supported.

A lot of work has been done on getting the current kernel working on this, but I don't think it's successful yet. I agree though, there is hope
[TouchPad Development] Razor512:
I wonder why cyanogenmod has gotten so quick to stop supporting devices. one of the main reasons people look for 3rd party ROMs is because cellphone companies like to stop releasing updates after about a year or so.

If anything cyanogenmod should focus on getting older devices that are still capable, up to the latest versions of android

(only thing really stopping me from getting android 4.2.2 is bluetooth (I use it frequently), and a proper 120 dpi mod, and the cm9 UI which it seems there is a patch for now.
[TouchPad Development] jsgraphicart:
You guys have to remember that the TouchPad isn't even an actual android device. We should be happy it made it this far.
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
well, its a linux device. and it doesnt hurt to be happy with more stuff working. prolly shouldnt call it done for.
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Where did you get that it is a Linux device?
[TouchPad Development] alexeiw123:
I'm using 120 DPI persistent using local.prop mod, no issues what so ever.

Keep in mind that an unofficial device like this is still built from the exact same source as officially supported devices. To be supported, and built by the cm build bot, all it needs is a device maintainer, and to meet CM's prerequisites, which one of them is to be using a current kernel, reliably.

And yes, android (aosp) is based on Linux. At it's roots, this is a Linux device.
[TouchPad Development] lowlymarine:
Probably from the fact that it originally ran the Linux-based WebOS?
[TouchPad Development] haksam:
the new builds are great, just missing BT i think

coming from jcsullins preview build, I am sure its a matter of time when it gets fixed
[TouchPad Development] brchickery:
I have been using Android on touchpad since inception and never had bsods. unfortunately since last week every nightly I get screens of death no matter what I do when it deep sleeps I can't get it to wake up and have to reboot
[TouchPad Development] The Jack of Clubs:
which is why android, which is also linux based, is working on the touchpad.
[TouchPad Development] festa20:
Would anyone upload the latest one cause too is shocking and goes to unsuccessful all the time please

:)
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
[MENTION=1594835]milaq[/MENTION], Been looking through the upstream commits looking for when CM added the changes for this reported "Master Key Exploit". Here is a link to read about it: http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/07/cyanogenmod-10-1-2-fixes-android-master-key-exploit/

Can't tell if it is there or not. What can you tell us? Is it in your latest nightly? Thanks
[TouchPad Development] Swetnes:
Just try again sometimes the goo servers get bogged down I was able to complete it last night.
[TouchPad Development] MikeFRG:
Yep sometimes is pain in the a.. :silly: now i got it in 4min :laugh:

? the 7/15 is ok ?
[TouchPad Development] Swetnes:
Haven't tried yet it took me that long to DL 7/14 :eek:
[TouchPad Development] typolad:
I just clean installed the latest Nightly and am seeing a "phone view" of Android. I saw a couple of people mention it, but don't see a solution. It's not a dealbreaker, but just wondering what's up