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[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
I understand what your saying and appreciate your feedback

But there’s a reason I chose to do it on a larger scale

I have a sony phone with three as my network provider

But I degrease with all bootlodear locking

I wouldn’t want to resolve my issue with Sony / Three only to find I have to do it all over again with the next device I buy

Each time the petition is signed an automated letter is sent to all the companies listed

If 02 has locked your boot loader I can add them to the list. Then when you sign... not only are you objecting to 02 locking your boot loader,

Your objecting to Three locking my bootloader and Vodaphone locking his bootloader and Tmobile locking her bootloader.

See how that works? ;)

Metaphorically speaking

Why bomb one company with emails when we can NUKE EM ALL !

I haven't added sony to the list yet as they have denied locking my bootloader and claim it was three however it was sealed with a sony logo and I expect them to be responsible for the condition of the product and its

contents.

So ill add them in a moment

I disagree,,,,,,,,,, I feel this way Allows more voices to be heard

Those 16,000 Motorola users would be able to object to your Sony bootloader being locked :fingers-crossed:

I also added the optional template so that people could list their devices

I made sure to get the words 'current devices' in there so that they cant say "ok we'll stop doing it"

and not do anything about the products we have
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
I signed the petition! The White House actually petitioned the FTC to be able to unlock our phones.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dragonmhawk:
how do i sign? and add bell canada to the petition please. I have Bell Xperia ZL c6506 locked bl cant unlock it.

Ill add 200$ CDN if this is figured out:)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
17 signatures and a response from the Head of Developer Relations @ Sony ;) this shows that we are being heard

If you want to add bell ill need an email address for them

to sign the petition .... just click sign? lol

pasting this into your reason for signing would be more effective than just giving a signature

Network Provider / Carrier: Bell

Offenders Contact Email(s):

Device Manufacturer & Model: Xperia ZL c6506

Reason For Signing:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dragonmhawk:
Kevin Crull

President – Residential Services (Expressvu satellite TV, Sympatico internet, and wireline phone)

kevin.crull@bell.ca

ph: (416) 581-2923

fx: (416) 593-1338

Executive Assistant: Jacqueline Fowler

(416)-581-2953

jacqueline.fowler@bell.ca

483 BAY ST. (BTS)

TORONTO, Ontario, M5G 2C9

Wade Oosterman

Pres – Bell Mob.& BDI & Chief Brand Off. (wireless phones)

wade.oosterman@bell.ca

ph: (905) 282-4944

fx: (905) 282-3553

Assistant: Laura Mihalis 905-282-4945

5099 CREEKBANK ROAD

MISSISSAUGA, Ontario, L4W 5N2

Found this for bell canada:) just waaayyy too juciy not to share:)

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Relations.Clients@bell.ca

And another one:)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dully79:
[MENTION=5421530]Throbin Wood[/MENTION], Nice to see some one with the same idea as myself:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44423447&postcount=266

:highfive:

Shame I've long moved on...

:(
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
Awesome will add these in a moment :good:

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Me and this army ;)

Since I started this petition a man called Cheetan from Three has called me several times, he seems to be doing his best to resolve my issue

He has agreed not to charge me £15 to remove the Sim Lock (so I can sell the phone... iv already ordered another one)

And says that he has contacted all the relevant departments in regards to removing the bootloader restrictions

but as it an unusual request... hes asked me to allow him a week to come back with a solution.

soooo calling them and being lied to.... has changed.... to them calling me and making an effort

Progress :confused:

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Im also having trouble working out what they gain from locking the boot loader

but we all know unlocking the bootloader voids warranties

I'm a farm boi and live out in the sticks. the phone lines here are over 50 old years and were installed during world war 2

Back in 2011 cyanogeonmod brought tethering to my device. If I went into a field and put my phone on a satellite dish I was able to download something in 2 minuets that would take 4 hours on my broudband connection.

I always paid the excessive charges for excessive data use..

I have an unlimited data plan with three and tethering was an advertised feature when I bought the phone so I cant see this being the reason

The only answer I get from Three when i ask "why has the bootloader been locked what is the purpose of this"

is "we dont support it"

every customer service rep gave that exact answer... like a prescripted response and it dosnt make any sense to me or match the question.

Then they all ask me "what application im trying to download" at that point I usually lay the phone down and headbutt the table

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added 2 of these emails for you... not sure if the top ones have relevance
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] salomon1502:
Hi Throbin Wood.Can u add Irish Meteor?

Meteor Mobile Communications Ltd.

1 Heuston South Quarter

St. Johns Road

Dublin 8

Email: info@meteor.ie

Thank you in advance.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
Sure can!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] waynekirby:
Hey Throbin, I'm in the exact same boat as you, I'm with 3 in the UK and would love to have my bootloader unlocked. Keep up the great efforts and let us know as soon as the 3 rep calls you back.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
I hope you're not in the same boat as me coz I just set fire to it and jumped out lol

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

ill keep the petition going because its something I feel strongly about and not an issue I want to face in the future.

Ill be selling my Xperia Thwart and im waiting for my sk17i to arrive

Iv just Sim unlocked it and ill upload the new ta with unlock key in a mo

( I kept complaining about the £15 charge for the sim unlock and eventually got it for free :D )
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] waynekirby:
I don't know why you are going crazy over it though, the phone itself is miles ahead of the Ray, sure you can't have CM (which is disappointing) but the T is still a beast :D
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
I have many issues with it... but glad it works for you :good:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] waynekirby:
Fair enough... Hope things work out for you...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
IMEI:35386105-810055-1

Bootloader unlock key: AB1826257D846FA3

untouched (bl locked) ta file attached

Sim/Network Unlock Key: 3038969492855051

ta file after sim unlock attached

Re-lock bootloader tft attached (don't remember where I got it from but may be of use)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
I had planned on porting this rom Gin2JellyBean

Its gingerbread but looks and works like jellybean ( for locked bootloaders )

My xperia T used 350mb ram when its idling (with no user apps and over 100 system apps removed )

that's more than my desktop pc

This rom Idles at 110mb (with many user apps installed)

the rom zip is about 100mb in size... a bit different to the 500mbs with the T

of-course the very fist problem I ran into was the onscreen buttons lol
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mad Marty:
You should read up on how Android handles RAM before stating that less RAM use is better ;)
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
are we talking about the 200mb system reserve ram?

or the the 350mb clogged up by something that dosnt seem to be doing much different to my xperia play idling at 110mb? (last time I checked gingerbread was still Android and it seemed to be handling itself pretty well)

I don't need to read up

my xperia plays running on gingerbread

it has less ram, uses less ram, its just as fast with a single core @ 1ghz (boots faster) and the battery lasts 3x longer

id be more than happy to listen to every scientific reason that may indicate that im wrong

but the proof is in my hands

(same applies to computer operating systems... Windows XP still performs better than Windows Vista, 7 & 8 because its using less resources)

simplicity IS speed

im gonna continue with this seen as you have 3 thanks for making out I dont know what im on about

Ice cream sandwedge was such a lag fest they had to come up with project butter. I expect a fair portion of that ram is used up by predicting what im going to do next. so the ui dosnt lag when I select it.

using more petrol in a car dosnt mean its performing any better especially when its 5 times heavier

volatile memory regardless of how "Android handles it" requires electrical power to store and retrieve data.

So yes less RAM use is better ;) please explain your theory
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Wow...

Don't know what else to say..i got to your mention in thanks posts and heard everything I needed to know..

Bye
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Throbin Wood:
as did I with your twin gifs and begging button ;)

so I figure maybe im wrong. mabye using more ram to do the same thing could be better?

and I should google this? just in-case

thanks for confirming that google
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mirhl:
[MENTION=5421530]Throbin Wood[/MENTION]

i could posts other 7 opinion of people who found jb the best version ()

i could say you that gb animations are laggy

and i could argue with you that free ram consume the same energy of used ram (if you had studied this things)

and i would like to know if you understand what pre-fetching and pre-caching are
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
Shouldn't we get back to the topic at hand and try to crack the bootloader open rather than discuss personal experiences with different Android versions and get a-flaming and a-raging? Just a suggestion....
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
Yes, but this thread is pretty much dead. Like many have said before, this is impossible and can/will not be done.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] king960:
Screw sony, only for this...
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
Nothing is impossible. Like I've said before, there was another thread which was investigating the TA and they were damn close to cracking it! They'd isolated the segment responsible for it and there was one last chunk which they didn't know/couldn't decode, but they knew where it was and had some pretty strong ideas about it. What's the total of pledges up to by now? I think that it's close to 600 by now. But don't ever give up. That's not in the spirit of XDA.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
Do you mind sharing the link to the other thread working on the TA partition?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
Just found the link, it's basically been given up on since the dev in charge got a different device. But if you can wade through some of the useless comments there's some pretty good info in there:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2053466

A word of caution: do not perform the procedures that they outlined, your phone will brick. That's my disclaimer :p

All the best
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mirhl:
[MENTION=3347133]Galcactus[/MENTION]

What useful information can you find there?

I followed it since the begininng

And the only thing the dev was thinking to implent (kexec) has been declared impossible by munjeni (which achieved kexec but only with a heavily customized kernel)

Cracking the TA or understanding how Sony "locks the unlocking" seem the only solution at my eyes

if you want some SERIOUS information look at this
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
but he gotit working

I had mentioned way earlier in this thread (after you originally posted this) that I checked his git and he succeeded at getting the kernel up and running like a week later from when he had mentioned that in his post. (Sounds confusing I know) but follow this post and check his github and you'll see it too.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mirhl:
he solved yes

but the kernel changes, however, requires an unlocked BL.. so we are back to square one
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
He managed to crack his boot loader by already having an unlocked bl?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
I was thinkinh the same thing..as soon as you change a kernel it needs an unlocked bootloader. So if your bootloader "crack" depends on a custom kernel it becomes a circular argument.

You need to be able load the stock kernel then sideload the custom kernel on top of it, or stop the stock kernel loading after signature check and sideload the custom one.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
Now we're talking

I know for a fact we're not going to get a dev to unlock the boot loader I mean even Adam Outler didnt partake on the task. I have one question though, if Rimmer can make a miui build from stock base why not cm? I know we wouldnt get custom kernal but we can change the i/o and governor and do system wide tweaks to it. Back to the point at hand if we come together as a community and share our knowledge, thoughts' and ideas without flaming each other and focus on the task ourselves we can make a statement and prove the impossible is indeed possible.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Miui roms based on other roms. It just needed someone ti work hard and do the work to make one based on a T ROM. Cm roms are a straight build from the kernel up.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
I think you have a point. Back in my HTC Sensation days, the first CM ROM available was Sense based, but without most sense removed. It was just running the stock kernel, but CM was modified to run off it.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
I was going to say why can't we have an unnoficial cm built around the stock kernel and we already have the free xperia project build for reference to work from
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
official or unnoficial, it still needs the custom kernel.

I don't think the fxp team will divert from the cm kernel, its just too much work to start from scratch again.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
its possible it just needs to be built

I was googling earlier and found a thread for the xperia u where spacecaker made cyanospcemod ROM for both ul and lb http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2233046
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mirhl:
Stop this!

He only adapted cm rom to stock Sony kernel

As stated by gregbradley, that's not our aim

we want to be able to load our kernels, without compromise
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
That isn't possible right now, so we're settling with building a CM ROM based off stock.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Then this needs another thread. This is about unlocking the bootloader. If you want to petition to get devs working on a cm rom based on stock you will a new thread.

But I don't think there is anyone who will give that time up.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] ferdinez:
$10 when complete....before i get rid of my phone. Have no use for a TL apart from regular use here in Africa. :(
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] belovits:
I would gladly donate 10 EUR if it's done.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jesusfranco:
I would donate $50 when its available.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] quinten96:
hmm i don't understand.. isn't xperia t already unlockable?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] mirhl:
network operators sometimes decide to lock bootloader unlocking

and we would like to break this further bound
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] ferdinez:
Well Sony is not going to unlock it officially as Kalle told me so we'll all have to chip in something to get someone to do it. I'm really tired of this phone.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
No dev wants devote their time to unlock this phone, so we're stuck right now.

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Can this thread be considered a multi device thread for all Sony handsets following the Xpeira T since they all require the same method of cracking the bootloader? Making this thread Multidevice could get more attention from Devs on other Xperia device forums that have the same bootloader problem.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
Bump.

We've come too far to let the thread die.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Some people are working on a kexec solution for the Z1

This may offer some hope for a kexec solution on the T

Its talked about in the doomkernel thread in the Z1 original development thread here
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Okluzhion:
[MENTION=3843529]gregbradley[/MENTION] sounds promising, especially for a Z owner, such as myself.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
Kexec work continued in new thread.

The people working on kexec for the Z1 have started a new thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2495152&nocache=1

They are actually getting closer and closer to having a functioning kexec, and also they say that it should be port-able to the T!

Good news folks, we're getting closer to a work-around!

I am getting far too excited :D

Peace out people,

Galcactus
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
We should redirect our efforts to that thread. They are very close to success. We will be able to run AOSP soon!

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Are we going to give all donations to the kexec developers?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] king960:
But I dont think that it'd solve permamently locked bootloaders problem. -_-

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Or it would -_-
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
Well it does go a long way to working around it: boot custom kernels, if we can get a cyanogenmod kernel then that opens up most of the roms you want, plus it will placate a lot of people. I'd be happy with kexec. Why aren't you happy with it?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] king960:
Because Xperia p has kexec, but it works only with unlocked bl
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
take it from the defy/bravo forum

The moto defy/bravo has a locked boot loader and never was updated beyond gingerbread but devs like Quarx and Skeevy there were able to create cm10+ among other Roms with the ginger kernel
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] gregbradley:
Not being funny, but what is the point of that?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
It would be pointless if only unlocked bootloaders could use it. That's silly, no offence, but that would be useless then.

Peace out :cool:
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
The one being developed for the Z1 is meant for locked Bootloaders. This can be ported to the Z as well.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Galcactus:
I think that people are going to have to cough up pretty soon, kexec looks be getting there, give it a week or two and I reckon we'll a solid process to create one with our kernel.

Maybe we should start bothering other kernel devs in our forums to add kexec module to their kernels..?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] waynekirby:
I think we should wait to see whether it is working 100% first, most people won't be willing to cough up 'til they see proof of it working on the T. But I'll cough up definitely for sure!
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
this is the last time I'll bring it up...

I have a belief that motopocalypse can unlock the boot loader of the xperia t, when reading Dan's explanation of how he unlocked moto bl he found the exploit at the Qualcomm processor level. Well both the atrix HD and xperia t not only use the same processor but same chip set as well. I understand that they run different file systems but have compatible hardware. Also he has made exploits that have run on different devices, example being motochopper that can be used on the s4 to gain root. At this point in the game what other options are there, really?? And what would be the total loss of a bricked device anyway, many of the xperia t users have moved on to other devices and besides development on devices that have unlockable bls us who have locked bl's don'thave many options. As soon as I pick up a replacement device I'll test my theory if I brick it, oh well, but if it is a success it will be worth it
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] dragonmhawk:
Can someone port kexec to the xperia zl? its a device thats been ignored cause of the locked bl.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] LaZiODROID:
For what its worth, i tried running motopocalypse. It didn't brick my lt30a (currently on 4.1.2, XperimenT 3.5).

The process couldn't continue at one of the steps (where it reboots into bootloader mode. This phone would just do a regular reboot).
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
Our lb's are missing fast boot

Greg Bradley had a minimal fastboot file in another thread, I wonder if that would help with the process, my computer is currently out of commission so I can't test it myself. http://d-h.st/zwu
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Durteedee:
Has any one tried djrbliss Loki method since you guys are trying moto stuff

Sent from Moto Atrix HD Maxx Probam edition
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
loki is promising

I was checking out the Loki official thread and its a great bypass https://github.com/djrbliss/loki we would just need to put the pieces together for our device and it should work.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Durteedee:
shabby penguin was able to port it over to the lg motion but it would factory reset when you went to it. But it was a great workaround for locked bootloader for that device
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Mad Marty:
The official bootloader unlock will also factory reset your phone.

Interesting to see where this will lead to, curious if this would also work on our devices (though I'm already on unlocked bootloader ;))
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] shabbypenguin:
i did no such thing. and its the aboot that does a factory reset
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Knucklessg1:
Do you mind giving further explanation on what you did do with the LG motion?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] shabbypenguin:
i asked dan to add support for it, from my understanding loki wont work on sony devices.
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
how about a 2nd init

I have seen how a 2nd init was used with the moto bravo and they are able to run custom roms I was wondering is that possible with the xperia? I mean why wait for kexec right?
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Okluzhion:
You need a custom kernel to run ROMs such as Cynogenmod.

Sent from my SeXy Z
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Durteedee:
Yes glad you cleared that up for me forgot to edit my post here sorry if you got bombarded shabby

sent from the kitty kat Atrix HD Maxx

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sent from the kitty kat Atrix HD Maxx
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] shabbypenguin:
no worries man, no one msged me or anything :). I happened to come across your post by complete chance. reddit had a post on a sony subreddit for this thread and I was checking it out and saw your post :P
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] jewkhok:
here's what the 2nd init is

And here's a brief exanation on how it works http://cvpcs.org/blog/2011-06-14/2nd-init._what_it_is_and_how_it_works
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] Olivier:
Just in case someone is interested and willing to collaborate, I am working on CM for LB for the Xperia S. My mod is based off the one made by atis112, which can be found in Xperia U forums...

It actually works like CWM for LB - it pushes a CM ramdisk to system/bin, chroots it then boots from it. This requires a modified chargemon.

However, here is the link to my project on Github: https://github.com/olivieer/cm-lb-nozomi. Feel free to kang and to commit.

Gesendet von meinem LT26i mit Tapatalk
[Sony Xperia T, TL, TX, V] shabbypenguin:
gunna fork it so I hopefully don't forget when my z actually gets here, i imagine something along the lines of this would be what ends up working best for everyone involved.