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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] grgana:
One question for someone who is familliar with this, if the S1 srever on unkoc.sr ever go online again is there a hope for us with rooting status : No.

To chage it : yes

???
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RHBH:
Sony didn't said "in the end of May".

Sony said "From the end of May".
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Second week of June is still within the promise. Sony only said it will being

FROM

the end of May.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] datatsiko:
from then end of may means that update should start in may.otherwise they would say from February and they could release update even in 2034 it would anyway be after February
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
They did it for the Xperia P. They said it was from the end of March and they got it on April.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] technaudio:
No it doesn't. FROM the end of May means exactly what it says, FROM. May has 31 days, so FROM the end of May means AFTER the 31st of May.

I beg for mods to close ALL these JB speculation threads until that date.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] srgdra:
they will release it tomorrow
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] electrash:
That dosent meat that date will be 31.5 :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] HellRoot:
Sony replied on our Danish site that the French mistake was a mistake and that they will begin the rollout in a couple of weeks :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MaxPayne3004:
Danish, I think german ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] HellRoot:
Danish... As some here in Denmark were angry about the jelly bean not coming... It will rollout in Denmark in a few weeks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] donjamal:
no, it means it has to start in the end of may (last day the latest) and should continue onwards. From and not after. in your logic, the 31st of December 3456 is still "from end of may 2013". is it not, is it?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jjwrongjj:
Agree with you. From end of May it means start in 28 29 30 31 of May and continue
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] higherman:
:eek::eek:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Don't waste space here with those nonsense..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] technaudio:
Yes it is. Such is the ambiguous beauty of the English language.

When you're at the end of the road, are you at the end of it, or a few meters before the end of it. Do you finish reading a book 3 pages before the end?

http://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/end
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nrdl:
If you have any news about this, please let me know... I'm ready to pay to solve this stupid problem on my Xperia S. :mad:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RHBH:
If JB doesn't come until may 31th, all JB topics should be closed, except .200 leak.

Too many angry.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] FenrirMX:
There's no need if certain people can stop being children about it, so far we've had some good discussion, and I see no need for all of us to stop with that because of a couple of people.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dieselman6969:
what version you have in yours xs? my phone have 6.1.A.2.45 but in sony page say the last version is 6.1.A.2.55 im confused i´m from portugal..

i call to sony support and they say to me the last software for xperia s is 4.1 :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] PussLover:
Sony Germany has say that Sony France has made a mistake and the update is reported
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
yeah, how could he forget that this is dieselman6969´s nonsense question thread.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] donjamal:
The point is from the end... Which is from the 31st then

Sent from the outer space, delivered by an android
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nrdl:
Don't understand the point of the discussion, NO BRAND makes announcements like this.

Sony Xperia Z was not launched on an event on the end, from the end, or whatever, was launched on a event with a define date.

Like any professional and serious Companies, a deadline is defined and presented.

The only reason this is happening like this is because Sony only cares for news models, people must buy new models at any cost.

And in this matter, they are not different from other brands, the difference is their main competitors update their models more regulary.

So there is no reason from this discussion, for a simple reason: Sony will not have lied to their costumers if they launch the JB update on 31.Dez.2099... their information was FROM THE END OF MAY... so, any date fits that. AND THAT IS THE RIDICULOUS PART!

PS: For the record, I do not intend to troll Sony, simply to expose the amateur marketing relationship they are creating with their clients.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RHBH:
I do agree!

But Sony will see the effects of this "fiasco" in their sales when Xperia S/SL/acro S/ion owners start looking for a new phone.

Happy customers always return. Unhappy customers goes to other brand.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dieselman6969:
I agreed with you :cool:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Felimenta97:
As from Xajel:

He has some reliable info regarding software, so trust him.

Now could you all please stop complaining that Sony is bad with softwares or don't care about their consumers? Pretty please?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] donjamal:
Yeah, I agree as once I stated before.

Sent from the outer space, delivered by an android
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] switzerland92:
Nice info [MENTION=4204411]Felimenta97[/MENTION]!

I agree with this - it is better to get Jelly Bean later with as few bugs as possible (bugless ROM will never exist) than to get update earlier with bugs and (even more) unhappy community.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Felimenta97:
Remember this info isn't mine... I won't link to the original thread that I found this because people will start flooding the place.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] FenrirMX:
[MENTION=4204411]Felimenta97[/MENTION]

Overall it sounds pretty legit.

Smart move by Sony, make people beta test their firmware unknowingly. I also imagined something was going on when the firmware numbers kept going back and forth on their official site.

[MENTION=2057614]dieselman6969[/MENTION]

You really need to stop with acting like a damn child. This isn't your private playground, and you're only going to get this thread locked and no one will get to discuss anything related with JB. Why hasn't he been infracted yet, anyway?

[MENTION=1762158]nrdl[/MENTION]

I agree with you, but there's a reason they phrased it that way. If you set a hard deadline and you fail to meet it, then all the righteous indignation directed towards you is justified by your failure to meet said deadline. If you give a limp noodle ballpark period of time for your deadline, then you can never really fail to meet it. And everyone complaining is being unreasonable.

Infuriating to the user, hell yes, but it's also smart business sense.

PS. Don't let my constant attempts at mediating these threads fool you, I'm as frustrated and angry as the next guy, I can just control it enough not to spout off a rant here that will benefit no one [not even me].
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Actually no. Most consumers do not care about android updates. Sony's sale numbers will not be affected at all. And there's no fiasco. It's clearly stated in the Sony'a blog it will come from the end of May. If you believe other sources, that's your bloody problem.

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The only things you say are "don't spam here", "I agree with you" and "Sony sucks".

HTC does similar stuff. They just dump information that JB is coming and full stop. Like it or not, whatever nonsense theorem you force out, Sony never lied. You cannot change facts.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nrdl:
As I wrote, most brands do this... they don't really care about current costumers... the objective is to sell new models, no matter what they say.

Once again, as I also wrote: Sony never lied, they can release the update on 2055, their statement was FROM THE END OF MAY... so, any date will make it true.

These are FACTS and because of that they should make sense ?!

Any Brand Manager, any Marketing Manager, any Junior Marketeer will tell you this behaviour from Sony is from pure amateurs.

At this stage we have:

- Sony Global: From the end of May

- Sony FR: Update has now began

- Sony DE: Our friends in France made a mistake

- Sony BR: Update on 15 July

Clap Clap Clap... Sony is doing a pretty damn job!

Managing crisys, It is one of the subjects on any Marketing Manuals!

And not once Sony has step to public to clear this matter, at this stage the OBVIOUSLY know the date, at least the week to release the update. They don't do it because:

They don't care about Xperia 2012 users, they have a 1 year old phone, they should now buy new Xperias

or

They know the information it will cause even more discussion.

And this is frustrating for any fan, for any interested user. It certainly does not build positive links with the brand...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] PLovrin:
I agree with you on this but for jelly bean rollout it's different than releasing new phone.

Now there are XS, XSL, acro S and ION (sorry if I forgot one) waiting for jelly bean rollout.

All of that phones, all different SI versions and all countries can't get the update on the same time, right?

So, as I understand "from end of May" would be, that it starts at end of May and continues onward. First builds, first phones get update at the end of May and next builds, next phones in next weeks. That's why from end of may.

If they would say that updates would rollout at the end of may all phones all builds all countries would need to get it at the end of May. In that case they would have to announce dates for every phone and every build individually.

And if they would say it will rollout 29.5.2013 and only a few builds would get JB in that day again a lot of users would complain why didn't they get update.

Well that's at least my understanding of "from end of may". Something starts and continues from that time.

---------- Post added at 01:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 AM ----------

Sony France said in later comments that only a few builds got update and more coming this week.

This is all weird.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lord Takyon:
All you people saying how much damage this will do to Sony are crazy. You do realise we are a tiny minority?

The vast majority of users just update when the phone tells them too. They don't know what root is, and they probably don't know what version of android they are running.

Please just be patient. My phone needs an urgent rebuild as it is crud at the moment due to various issues. I'm waiting for jb to, just chill :)

Sent from my Sony Xperia S via transwarp conduit.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] juanenbas:
I have my ACRO S with ANDROID 4.2.2 jejeje
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ameya23:
Let's hope they don't screw the update and call it billy jean..:laugh:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Felimenta97:
Did you read what I posted 1 page ago?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41944919&postcount=305
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Ambroos:
All the local Twitter and Facebook accounts are handled by external companies doing the PR. They get all their information second-hand, so to speak, and in general aren't a reliable source. They just spread what they've heard. The global blog is the only real information source that always comes directly from Sony and the only one that should be regarded.

On the "from the end of May" terminology, well, it simply means that the first handsets will receive the update before May is over. Expect to see an FTF today or the next two days.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jjwrongjj:
2 days, I am sure will not happend LOL
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Ambroos:
Why not? I know the person at Sony who used to give the final "go" for the Xperia S updates but he's been working on other projects the last months. After he gave his approval it took only a few days for an update to start rolling out to the first handsets, so it really can be quite fast. That was for 6.1.A.2.45.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] richteralan:
You are comparing an interim release of ICS with an OS update release of JB?

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Dude you really should stop defending Sony.

Really...second hand info. Then maybe they should close all those account. When a facebook/twitter account is branded as Sony and/or its regional headquarters, general public expect some integrity when they post stuff with the branded social accounts.

They post second hand info? Well then what's the difference between some random blogs and the branded social accounts?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Ambroos:
There is of course a difference, but in general the software teams don't communicate directly with the external companies handling the FB and Twitter accounts. They talk with the product managers who then relay it to the social media management people, and it happens quite often that the information isn't really correct anymore.

And well, as long as it's May I'll keep defending Sony because I'm confident the update will arrive this week.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] topuji:
Man, your confidence in Sony in enviable :D
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] shad0wboss:
Actually, sony can release the .200 build and continue to provide OTA updates. At least, their reputation may be preserved, this way.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] XDA_h3n:
Had a samsung switched to HTC now sony. Seems like the nexus will be the next phone for me with oem updates.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] TheFirstFishy:
33 pages of NOTHING.

We have not yet seen the release of JB and still we can fill 33 pages with nothing.

And when JB finally is released we will see the same stupid people asking the same stupid questions over and over and over again.

And after a month JB is a crap update and ICS where better.

From the planet Nexus 7
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Arabaldo:
True... That's the way of the world today, always hunting for something better... Never satisfied :/

Skickat från min Xperia S via Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RHBH:
If they release .200 build they will get a lot of complaints, there are still some bugs in this version.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nv0id:
They could release it as beta with some agreements for users.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Daniel_GB:
+1

The main problem is still there, useless 1080p recording!

there are bugs in .200 firmware need to be resolved..........
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
the funny thing is that .200 was meant to be the LAST update for our lovely s ( according to feli´s source).

sony will release a slightly improved version of it and when new bugs appear, they won´t bother fixing them cus well it´s the last update for s
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] nv0id:
According to who? I need check if this source is credible.

And this is not how the market works. Not fixing critical/annoying bugs leads to loss of customers. No reason to spread panic.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
a few pages ago. makes sense, sony wants to ditch xperia s asap.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lewis021:
Our phones are 2012 models. Sony wants to improve the latest phones. And they have lots of varieties of phone, its been only less than six months and Sony has already released more than five phones. If only Sony was a bigger company, we would have gotten the JB ages ago. They want to release the JB update for the last 2012 models as soon as possible. They want to ditch our phones really badly and continue developing for the newer phones.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
If they wanted to ditch Xperia S, they would have done so already. Just for your information, HTC Sensation uses the same CPU as Xperia S. The difference? Xperia S is upgraded to 4.1 while HTC Sensation remain on ICS.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] electrash:
Yea but that is already 2 year old, android policy says that phones must be supported for at last 18 months, also sensation have less power CPU and less RAM.

You cant compare 2 different years. We talking here about sony xperia s.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Then why the hell are you guys always comparing Galaxy S2 and Xperia S??
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
htc sensation released 2011 with 2.3.

sony xperia s released 2012 with outdated 2.3.

yeah sony really deserves the title sankt :D

edit: i´m not comparing it with s2. i´m just stating how much sony hates xperia s. i can´t explain otherwise the minimum effort and support for the s. unworthy for such a great device, flagship device!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Again, you need to use a little more brains. If Sony hates Xperia S, they simple wouldn't update it. If they put minimum effort, they wouldn't give us Xperia Z's features.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jjwrongjj:
@ vitas250

:confused::confused::confused::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Ambroos:
Sigh. There seems to be some internal misinformation (hence the France Twitter thing, the "latest available" mess and the chat support saying it's rolling out). The update isn't there yet but it will be available very soon.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bluechelsea:
Remember, in April they said it was already rolled out?

Sent from my sunken ship xperia s.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] shad0wboss:
I think the biggest trolls are the french carriers, with all their retarded pranks. To be honest, i'm not expecting much from this update now. Whether they release the .200 version now, or they come up with a more bug free version. Either ways, there are going to be bugs and there will be no more updates.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Mobfigurz:
Bugs are inevitable in all software, regardless of who the vendor is, there is no such thing as the perfect software. If Sony do stick to their guns and decide that the Xperia S support will end with the 4.1 update there is nothing much we can do and complaining will have no effect, though we have the right to complain, I find it highly doubtful that Sony will do a Microsoft U-turn. Sony have more to gain by developing new handsets and software features than trying to support older devices since they are trying to bolster the Mobile side of the business and gain a foothold on the market. I was an early adopter of the Xperia S and though I am vexed by Sony and the pace at which they move in supporting this phone, thankfully I have had no issues in the 13/14 months I have owned this phone.

All in due time, patience.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
I totally agree with you. Till now I have no issues. I seen people ranting about sluggishness of the phone. I can guarantee if you open 12 tabs in the Browser, the phone will definitely lag. In fact, I wouldnt even complain in Sony didnt upgrade my Ion to JB. The current ICS is flawless.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
u should maybe take your pink colored sony glasses off instead of recommending me using a little more brain ( like i could consciously control my brain activity lol).

how many updates did xperia s received? how much time has passed since the last update? it´s not like they gave us a perfect ics rom, so they can enjoy some leisure time or update their other inferior devices like u, p and abcdefghjkl... .

even the x10 received more updates, be it small firmware updates with newer basebands or other minor bugfixes.

i have far better memories with my x10 than with s and this means something!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Count it yourself.

http://ptcrb.org/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20799

And why update when the ROM works? Tell me the imperfection. Laginess is not an excuse. The only thing I heard was WiFi dropping and battery drain. And btw, if you are using cheap Huawei routers, the WiFi connection will drop. (First hand account).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] cikomiko:
x10 says hello

http://ptcrb.org/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=16755

there are bugs on ics, don´t act like they don´t exist. the most irritating bug is af for me personally.

ah and music stuttering ofc.

well i won´t post unnecessarily here anymore, but u should know that i´m not ur typical sony hater. i just can´t accept how sony treats xperia s. it really doesn´t deserve this kind of treatment as it is a magnificent piece of hardware.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
X10 come from 1.6 to 2.1 and finally 2.3. Xperia S is only 2.3 to 4.0. Make sense now? Yes, I will not deny it, but do have music shuttering when I'm running both Chrome and Walkman. But I am using the leak JB and this doesn't happen.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] shad0wboss:
Wouldn't you say that the purple tint issue with current JB leaked builds, is a major bug? I mean if Sony doesn't do anything about it, which we hope it will, then that is just worse case scenario.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] electrash:
You said you have ion, so how did you crossflash?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] FenrirMX:
He didn't, look at his sig, Ion had a leak as well
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] electrash:
Then he dont know how ics is buggy.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] psyy:
it already takes ages for sony to get JB out for the SXS so why not wait longer :(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Efe64:
Wowww

Still not released???

Im happy that i leaved this *****.

Im wondering how long the update will take for the z....

Send from my awesome 1080p
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] hunter3000:
http://ptcrb.org/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=20799

Date Certified

A	6.2.B.0.200	ECO	May 7, 2013

Ooops, Sony :cowboy:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] PLovrin:
Sony Xperia de Twitter claims that it will come soon and in this quarter.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RHBH:
I always said:

Xperia P JB: "From the end of March" and update released in the last Thursday of April (25).

Xperia S JB: "From the end of May" and the update (my opinion) will be released in the last Thurday of June (27).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dieselman6969:
shame on you sony!!!

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_ace_2_gets_jelly_bean_firmware_in_uk-news-6120.php
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] technaudio:
FFS!

FROM THE END OF MAY!

Please. Shush. Till June 1st
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Gallardo994:
Could you please stop crying? All the messages are filled up with hatred of Sony and + messages like 'from end of may! '. Guys, remember, all these posts will never help us. Never. Just sit and wait, let something useful appear in this topic, not just tons of spam.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] r0bot:
Honestly, I'm just waiting for the source code, then the community ROMs are going to be much more superior to whatever Sony has baking in their easy bake oven. Specially with the new Bootloader backup method, it makes it more easier to keep warranty and enjoy the community ROMs.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] lee480:
Honestly, I see no difference between custom and stock ROMs. I firmly believe stock ROM gives the most superior experience.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] akashgupta222:
On custom roms with custom kernel, my optimus one performs better than my xperia s on stock rom
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] dieselman6969:
Forget for soon
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MaxPayne3004:
Definitely we must wait, why Sony Malysia have better information than german, brazil or french :D

Definitely...wait... :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] chefnoob:
I think the people who say ICS is not that bad are the ones who didnt spend time on GB or havent tried JB yet.

Honestly, I didnt notice how crappy ICS was up until I bought my misis a XPV on JB...

Man that thing is smooth...

ICS bugs for me so far...

Camera AF

Hangs

Battery drain

Wifi drops

Bad multi tasking

I think those alone warrant for an update dont you think?

Btw, the reason I still bought Sony for my misis because it was on sale (315 bucks) :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] TheFirstFishy:
I don't have any problems with Wifi drops in ics, but get 1-2 less bars of signal compared to GB.

And the battery is decent. I can get around 5 days of standby, or 3 on screen time depending on the usage.

No AF problems here. Well, sometimes it need a few tries in the dark, but generally it's fine.

I only feel it's hanging when installing or updating a app.

From the planet Nexus 7