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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] d_bizzzz:
Efficiently Running Phone

Slightly off topic, but whilst we're talking about getting the most out of our phones ,,

as well as disk space saving using this method, might I suggest 2 other amazing apps that I regularly use to keep things running smooth ..

Autostarts and Greenify

Using these 2 apps together you can with one prevent apps starting themselves in the background when you don't even want them too, and with the other you can 'hibernate' those apps that you started intentionally but just seem to stick around even when you've closed them
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Powerplayer1025:
Does this save you alot of room compared to just letting the phone move your apks and files to the sdcard
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] wally18324:
Problem with 7 and 8 of your methods

7. Select the source destination. This is the folder you wish to move data FROM. using the example of gta3 this translates to /emulated/0/android/obb/com.rockstar.gta3.

8. Now select the destination. This is the folder on the sdcard we wish to move the huge data file to. using the example of GTA3 it translates to: /storage/extSDcard/gta3. press the check mark. it will ask you if you wish to move the files. say yes.

Number 7 works fine. The destination path is the problem, storage ok, extSDcard not available on my s3. Then it prompts me if I would like the app to find one. I really want this to work, I have a 64gb card. I am running the latest cm11 nightly. Please help. P.S followed the instruction and partitioned my card correctly.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Use a root explorer program to determine whatever the path to your external sd card is. Simple as that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jdaudlin:
Uninstall Link2SD

I don't think Link2SD is working on my phone anymore. It won't let me unlink anything. If I copy the data/sdext/app, dalvik-cache and data directories back to their original internal location can I then uninstall Link2SD and start over?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sandman121383:
Been using this w gummy ROM. Awesome stuff!!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pa_abu88:
Can i move manually data and apk to data/sdex2 using root browser?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Why would you want to? The app will still be looking at the original spot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pa_abu88:
I want to expand my internal memory..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
What I'm saying is that just copying the files over to the partition won't work. The app will NOT see the files there.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pa_abu88:
I understand what you say..:D
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loader2142:
thanx for the info!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Taas:
Cannot get foldermount to work with 4.2.2....Was using fat partition, does not see big part of ss card
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Darkergothic:
Noticed that you all are using some strange and obscure partition tools when there is a perfectly good one for free:

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

Direct Link to cnet download:

http://download.cnet.com/MiniTool-Partition-Wizard-Home-Edition/3000-2094_4-10962200.html

Only the extended partition get wiped with this one, rest of SD usually remain intact!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bugggmenot:
I'm using Link2SD and Foldermount together, created 2nd ExSD card in FAT32 format and using it with Link2SD without any problem. now i want to know can i use 2nd Ex SD partition for FolderMount, instead of 1st partition?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
no.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joeatheist:
Micro USB loaded SD support...

Is there any chance this will work with an item like the meenova card reader? I have a Moto G that has no ext SD card slot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
I'm going to say no.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LIMIL8:
@rawintellect I have purchased the PLUS/PRO version of both Link2SD and Foldermount.

the added features (most are additional options you can turn on/off in the setting) gave me a couple of questions.

RE: Link2SD

2 of the 4 PLUS features are:

- Links internal data directories of the apps to SD card

- Links dex files of the system apps to SD card

1.) How, if at all, does these features affect the original post instructions in conjunction with using foldermount?

2.) When it says "links internal data directories..." does that negate what foldermount does?

and for FolderMount

The PRO features unlock:

Limitation of the free app:

* Only 3 mount pairs allowed

* File Explorer does not list the sizes of the displayed folders

* Some restrictions apply on the on the type/path of source folder

3.) How, if at all, does these features affect the original post instructions?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] radwolf76:
I'm curious about this as well.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LIMIL8:
With Nandroid?

In utilizing Nandroid to restore all of my accounts and phone preferences, I have been UNsuccessful making a smooth, quick and easy restore with Link2sd. (Foldermount isn't really a problem since the folders are still on my SD card, but that's the last step in the process for me)

When I restore my nandroid, it only restores the files I DID NOT create a link for with Link2sd. When I noticed this, I wondered if I should first install all the apps (with no data) using titanium backup, then restore the nandroid so that maybe it would recognize the other apps I had linked, but that didn't work for obvious reasons [it wasn't apart of my original nandroid of course...duh!]

This wouldn't be as complex if I was just restoring from a full wipe, because I know I could just use titanium backup to restore, and then relink. But setting up phone preferences and accounts is the pain, that's why nandroid is so necessary for me.

So unless, anyone has a better method for a process using nandroid restore, titanium backup, and Link2sd, I can only assume that before I perform a Nandroid backup, I should unlink all of my apk files that I created a Link for with Link2sd, then perform the backup, then relink the apk files back to sd again.

And if/when I need to perform a nandroid restore, I can simply restore it, and relink the apk files of choice back to sd again.

DOES THIS SOUND CORRECT?

IS THERE AN EASIER WAY?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] prof123:
Please I NEED HELP, ANYONE!

After moving all my user apps n Foldermount to move the data, the phone's memory is still huge.

Please what's remaining.

☆I attached screen shots.

Thanks.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GaMeR77:
Ok so sorry if someone already solved this problem but i didn't find it.... My problem is my phone storage is 1.27 gb and i have a 8 gb sd card... i want to play MC4 ... the obb file doesn't fit on phone storage and so i cant play when i take it to sd the game turns on but shut off before title screen... I want to use folder mount but how will i use it? The obb file doesn't fit on phone storage... is there any solution please help.. and what should i give in default write dish in setting phone storage or sd card? Please help... the phone has mali-400, 1gb ram android os 4.2.2... i think it can run mc4 but how!?!?.... please help

ps: the phone is NOT Xperia ray
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] GaMeR77:
I solved it. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] leopard_fist:
Pretty important post here, i'm surprised no-one has replied.. the ability to make a viable nandroid backup is rather important I'd think

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yeah but would it be that easy? what if you didn't have the room on your phone, to move the apps back to the phone before making the nandroid? you'd have to pick and choose what to move back to the phone, then reinstall whatever didnt fit/you didn't move, after the nandroid restore
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] crótach:
Is there a need for link2sd that I'm missing? In the list of features for FolderMount it says:

"App manager - Create and remove link for apk, dex and lib files of the app."

So if FM can create links for apk, as well as data, is there really a need to run link2sd as well?

Maybe I'm missing the obvious here, but someone please enlighten me :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] leopard_fist:
I'd like to know this also. I've come across threads with people discussing which one they use with some preferring one and some the other, so I tend to think you don't need both - dunno though, new to this :cyclops:
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Actually you quoted the list of features in Link2SD. Not foldermount.

In either case Link2SD now has the ability to move data. It didn't when I wrote the OP.

However, there is s catch. You must partition your SDcard to ext 2, ext 3, or ext 4 to accomplish this. This is fine...if you never want to see your SD card in windows. Windows does not read ext partitions.

If you're like me and want to pull or push files to your SD card you will have to use a FAT partition. And that means using Foldermount with Link2sd.

Now you're probably thinking "Ok. Well can I just use foldermount to mount the folder with the apk files?" The answer to that is no. You cannot mount /system/app or /data/app which is where these files reside.

Sent from the rabbit hole.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] carabina44:
Thanks to the OP for the guide, fixed a few issues.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Jerika:
Just to clarify...

What are the difference of:

/data

Storage/emulated/0

Storage/emulated/legacy

Since they all have the same storage. I attached a screenshot from foldermount.

I haven't mounted anything yet and haven't downloaded much apps yet since I just flashed a new rom ?

***also it confuses me to what/where should my destination folder be
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
They are mount points. Different names for the same storage. Different apps refer to these mount points. Think of it as the name of the same city in different languages.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Jerika:
Oh, thanks. But, why do they do that?

Also, do I choose any of those 3 to be the destination folder?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
They do this to accommodate many older apps that still refer to these mount points. You would choose a target folder of whatever app folder you're trying to mount. Your destination folder should be storage/sdcard1 from looking at your list.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Jerika:
Thank you :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] motoeuser:
thanks for the info..i have a doubt..i did everything as you have explained..but when i use the foldermount,the folder gets mounted on my sd card i.e the partition that i am using to store music and movies and not on the ext4 partition that i made for link2sd.please help in this regard
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
This statement is not necessarily true. A class 10 sdcard will far out perform a class 4 ;)

Thanks for this... I'm actually working on a way to bin the Android/data and Android/obb folders as a init.d script... so there won't be much of a need for a secondary app to do it for me ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Which is why I said:

And you're welcome. Good luck on your script.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
Thanks bud! So far it's a nightmare LMAO :good:

If it doesn't work with my next test, I'm going to scrap it for now... and just tell people to use Foldermount ;)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
Thanks for this man... script is proving to be quite a nightmare... foldermount just saved me 6th of space in my data partition :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] OptimusP64:
Thanks A lot, I was searching for exactly these things all over the google but didnt find this precise info.

XDA always rocks, have helped me in all my phone probs and recreations.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
Help!

Ok guys I've been having problems with link2sd. So I have a 64gb SD card which I've formatted and partitioned; 14gb to secondary Ext4 the rest is Fat32. The problem is that link2sd won't mount the secondary Ext4 partition! Any help would be much appreciated!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
did you make sure both partitions were primary?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
Yep, they're both primary. I'm running sacs custom Rom v6 with kt kernel. I'm thinking the kernel doesn't support Ext4...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
thats entirely possible
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
It's just strange because [MENTION=1274198]rawintellect[/MENTION] mentions that he's using the same format and apparently the same kernel as well. Maybe I'm missing something

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It's just strange because [MENTION=1274198]rawintellect[/MENTION] mentions that he's using the same format and apparently the same kernel as well. Maybe I'm missing something
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
If you look at the last part of the OP you'll see I updated it to say I was having issues with ext4. Both of my partitions are fat 32 now. Please try this.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
Will do! Although I believe I tried this already, I'll give it another shot
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
[MENTION=1274198]rawintellect[/MENTION] I just formatted to Fat32, still no luck. Guess it's time to try Agats kernel...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Well I'm running KT's latest kernel with my ROM Stock(ish) 4.4 just fine. Good luck to you.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TheGiant93:
Sorry, I was flashing roms/kernels and didn't see your response lol. Right now I'm rockin your ROM, (it's awesome btw) I'm on 4.3 v6. Just wondering if there's a 4.4 version that I could upgrade to?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Yes and no. Sadly the thread trolls have forced me to develop my ROM for just myself. I run the 4.4 version but still support the 4.3 release. I just refuse to release it.

I actually had several people only post in that thread to troll my ROM. they haven't posted anywhere since on xda. Confirming their troll status. I'll even go so far as to say they created those accounts just to troll my ROM. It became so bad I had to request frequent thread cleanings and I'm sure I've ticked off a mod or two with that.

In the end I decided it just wasn't worth it. So I stopped developing it for the public. I have the one and only copy of stock(ish) 4.4 and that it where it will stay for now.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] prof123:
Why does my internal memory still shows that the file is still in it after moving it to external memory using Foldermount?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
I've explained this earlier in this thread. The folder LOOKS like it's still on internal storage but it's not. It's actually a "mount point". Think of a mount point as a map to a city. The city isn't the map right? It just shows how to get there.

To prove the file is no longer on your internal storage unmount the folder in foldermount by unchecking the green "pin" then going back and looking for the folder. You will see that it's "vanished" when in fact all that was removed was the mount point for that folder. Make sure you remount the folder by rechecking the pin when you're done.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] prof123:
Thanks. You are right. It's just that my internal memory is full and I can't identify what made it full. I've been thinking it's the linking that's appearing in two places, but I was wrong.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] harigavara:
HI OP. Thank you for detailed info. Only one this is that is very useful.

Now my question is ... Does Link2SD PLUS app will do the same work which these link2sd and Folder mount is doing ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
I've answered this before. please read this post from two pages back.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] reselty:
Why Link2SD, while FoulderMount is enough

Hi there

I found some "HowTo's" About combining Link2SD and FoulderMount.

But FoulderMount should do the whole work itself - isn't it so?

Like in this posts the run into less problems:

#5

#1

So - why should I use Link2SD as well?

Thanks for any reaction!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
I've answered this question before as well in this thread. Please see this post.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] reselty:
New Link2sd fixes it ( does also Data 2 SD ) - Thanks!

Thanks a lot for letting me know!!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Smythius:
Files not moving to SD card

I'm using Link2SD plus and when I've tried linking the data files from 3 large games, (The Simpsons Tapped out, Order and Chaos, and Heroes of Order and Chaos) I noticed there is no additional memory free'd from my internal storage and the available space on my SD card is the same. each of these data folders is over 1GB in size and I would like them off my internal storage. The SD card is formatted with two ~32GB partitions. the first is FAT32 the second ext4. I don't receive any errors when I create the link. It says moving files and completes almost instantly but the files remain on my internal storage. please advise.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
As I stated before I don't use that feature of Link2SD. I use foldermount to move my data files so I think you're going to have to follow up with the developer of Link2SD.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] choder:
Thank you for this post. The biggest problem I had was the data files from gameloft games not moving with link2sd. Your tutorial worked great. I use some LG620 (Only 4gig memory with 1.3gig usable for programs) in place of tablets for my small kids because they have trashed their nexus tablets to many times. These phones are $35 on amazon. This now makes these phone totally perfect, they can have all their games now and they are happier than with their 7 inch tablets.

Thanks again.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] idoit:
Hi Ali,

I have mounted Viber folder from internal SD card to external SD card on my phone. I want FolderMount to mount it before Viber starts up and you know that Viber run in background all the time. Now if Viber starts before that folder is mounted, it will be bad because it will again try to do download all the stickers that I bought and it takes hours and hours... and it gets confusing as I will have 2 folders source and destination full of files! Can you tell me if there is a way to make sure FM mounts before any affecting app is run?

Thanks
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamosjamos:
How much work to flash new ROM w/ wipe

This is great. Terrific detail. Thank you!!!

I do have a couple questions:

1. On previous devices, I have flashed new roms often and I generally wipe between flashes to avoid issues. Can you help me understand all that's required here to restore all my apps after a wipe and new rom is installed? My method before was to restore apps via Titanium Backup. Then, for a phone w/ an SD, I could just use App2SD to move apps over to the SD card.

Now, would I have to do the whole procedure you outlined each time I wiped and flashed? Or are there short cuts? Can I just change some settings, then wipe, then install Link2sd & Foldermount and change some settings back and get the apps I moved to the card back?

2. So, Link2sd just moves the app itself to the SD card? All the data will still default to internal memory? So, for most people, Foldermount will probably save more space? And there is no app that does it all in one?

3. Do you anticipate any roms eventually incorporating a feature to make this more or less seamless? Looking at all the required steps, it seems unlikely.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
1. The answer to that is in two parts.

(a) For all of your data you have moved with foldermount there is no need to back it up. It's already on your SDCARD. I backup the contents of my SDCARD on my pc should I lose my card. But you can do a full wipe of your system, restore the APKs from TiBu and relink them to your sdcard with link2sd. Once that's done resinstall foldermount. Then restore your settings in foldermount. You're done.

(b) for the APKs and link2sd using the above full system wipe as an example, simply restore your apps via TiBu the same way you would if they resided on your internal card. TiBu doesn't know the difference when it backs them up and will restore them to your INTERNAL card. Then just select all and relink them to your SDCARD. You're done.

2. Correct. Partially. For OUR phones that's true. link2sd will only move the apk file, dalvik cache file, and link library files. It DOES have an app2sd function but since our storage is emulated this will not work for us. Foldermount will do entire folders. so I suppose you could technically link /system/apps. I personally haven't tried it nor will I. As I stated above link2sd moves the apk file, dalvik cache file, and link library files. Nothing more. There isn't an all in one app that I know of but feel free to search. I haven't found one.

3. I'm going to say no. But who knows? Devs can be pretty amazing when they set their mind to it. I know the setup seems a bit much but really once it's in place it's pretty simple. link2sd manages itself by auto linking apps during the install and removes the links during the uninstall.

Basically foldermount does the "heavy lifting" and link2sd is "nice to have". It's certainly not needed nor required. But I think it's more efficient when these two apps work together.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] P1_e85:
Killed my 32gb sd card trying to partition.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
??? no way. I've been partitioning cards for a long time sir. If you killed it it was a bad card to begin with.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sonza:
I used link2sd when I had the evo3d as I jusr plain needed the space. (120 user apps) Now with the S4 I have noticed a potentially even bigger issue. The apps will fit on the default internal sd (identified as sd0) but I cannot force programs like ewallet to store the data on the "externalsd" which is the card that can be removed. I keep a lot of data on the phone that I just don't want in the hands of others. I am hoping to use this solution to store this critical data on the external sd card so I can remove the card if I ever have to ship it in for repair. My evo failed once where it would charge but not allow a usb connection. The only solution from Sprint was a replacement unit. I would have to been forcet to do a factory reset and lose all the data had it not been stored on the flash disk. Something for all us to keep in mind.

A big thanks to the OP for this potential solution.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CCallahan:
Has everyone heard about the Samsung update for the German S4? Gives ability to move apps to SD card among other things. Sounds like some of this might not be necessary for us in the future.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
I've tried the native function and by all means apparently does not move as much as link2sd and foldermount can. So this method still will be best.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] imampi:
works on all android device

it's works great on my phone. just follow steps. I saved a lot of space and no more problem of "disk almost full".

Lt18i, rooted & unlocked bootloader

kernel : lupus v16

rom : ultimate hd 3.0.2

mod : UHD 4.4
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Jerika:
This is applicable to tablets too, yes?

I have samsung galaxy tab p3113 and i wish to do this process with my extsd card in it. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
Yes this applies to all android 2.3+ devices.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blefendic:
hey man, ty for this guide!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rawintellect:
You're welcome :D