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[Windows Phone 8 General] efektos:
Yeah well people who spread FUD will always be.

If and once WP will have 30% or 40% marketshare, on account of Android or iOS - we'll see discussions like this in their forums as well, so what's your point?

Ok they do. Now how does this contradict the fact that WP-related news bring traffic?
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
I give up. You were entertaining at first, but as I said earlier you win.

What FUD? You won't see cobweb discussions about Android or IOS anytime soon.

They report anything tech related, they're tech sites. They wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't. They report headphones, OSs, watches, solar panels. Anything tech related, why, tech sites that's what they do. The fact WP makes it on those sites is nothing special or to brag about. It would be asinine if they didn't.

Your soliloquy included "huge traffic" and "popular demand". That's asinine in itself. Unless you are referring specifically to the less than 5% of the world.
[Windows Phone 8 General] efektos:
Of course you won't, as these two are the current dominant mobile OSs in the world. Will that be the case a year from now? Who knows? But who knew 6 years ago that Symbian's marketshare would become trivial within 5 years?

It's impossible for me to fathom how can you as a person plan your life for more than a day with this kind of short sight.

If WP is not your cup of tea - which is totally acceptable - WP is still the OS with the fastest growing marketshare in the world currently, which is something that was measured by the most common and acceptable tools which are available nowadays. If you have a better or more accurate tool, please present it and your findings so we could relate to it seriously.

Otherwise please stop with the nonsense of the "WP now has 5% marketshare so it's doomed" type, as if iOS and Android didn't use to have such marketshare at one point...
[Windows Phone 8 General] Vishwal:
Huh, average users don't even care about such hi-fi security which restricts OS to give users features. We need basic features, MS still doesn't consider to release API of audio and video. And we can't even access out personal files through any kind of limited file explorer which is very much frustrating. How on earth when we tap,save and open any file goes to that dedicated space of that app and we can't even change that file association. This is a very much big restriction. Average user wants to access personal files only but such lock down is in the name security is not a good thing. We can't attach multiple files due to such restrictions. MS needs to give some freedom to average users. Merely copying iOS is idiotic.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
I can agree with the audio and video API.

If an app can open a file type, the user can "handle his files.". If there is no app to handle the file type, why bother having the file on the phone in the first place?

Things will get better in the following months. Microsoft worked pretty hard to get the WP8 even close to what it is now (porting ax86 kernel to ARM while still maintaining backward compatibility with the old CE kernel is not easy task!).

Windows Phone 8 Blue update brings quite a lot of APIs to the app developers, this WILL get better.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Vishwal:
Sorry if I sounded harsh, but that was rant. Don't you think we can't access our personal files is also one of the worst thing. My many friends didn't buy Lumias because of lack of this feature only. We don't want to access system files of any app, but at least we should be allowed to access personal files, what if any average user who don't know which file type wp support, get such file via Bluetooth or download it, then from where he will delete that file and frankly this scenerio is very common in countries like India. Hopefully, wp blue brings some freedom to users and devs,too.
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
Don't twist my words. 6 years ago? A mighty popular OS was released 6 years ago. A year later, yet another popular OS was released. If you recall, Ballmer laughed at this now popular OS. "The writing was on the wall" as analyst would say.

If you're still pretending WM didn't exist, it was extremely popular back then.

Again don't twist my words. I've been using each iteration of Microsofts mobile OS for 10+ years. I never said it was doomed.

What you are doing is playing with semantics. You're picking one thing and choosing to bloviate about it. You're not taking into account that its much harder for iOS or Android to gain percentage points of market share due to their extremely large size. That is why I gave you the "produce" example. It's a lot easier to go from 2-4% than it is to go from 54-55%.
[Windows Phone 8 General] danny8:
We'll just have to wait and see whether activity picks up for Windows Phone OS. I tend to agree with GDTD's outlook in any case.

I'd like WP to succeed, both in the marketplace and (selfishly) for hacking options. My guess is that Nokia and other WP vendors will have limited success -- maybe 10% of new sales in a year. That would be best case.

Hacking and app availability may not improve much. Maybe there are lockdown/security issues driving this. Likely, Android already captured the available hackers' attention. They have no reason to switch platforms.

After a couple of weeks with my Lumia, my initial excitement has waned. I'm disappointed in the quality and quantity of apps -- way worse than I expected. Also surprised at OS limitations, again worse than I expected.

I'm not much of a FB or Twitter user. Maybe then I'd be more enthusiastic about WP8 with its social hubs. I'm more of a media consumer. I'm unsatisfied with those features. And there's not much I can buy in the store to make up for it.

I don't regret buying the phone. It would've been hard to understand these limits without owing the phone. I'll just watch what develops.
[Windows Phone 8 General] BigZub:
I haven't been here to peruse this forum for a long time, and the only reason I'm here now is to see if anybody has a solution to the AWFUL Bluetooth compatibility of my Lumia 920. Having recently upgraded to it from a Samsung Focus 2 w/WP7.8, which worked FLAWLESSLY in my 2009 Pontiac G8, now my WP8 phone connects and then disconnects almost immediately.

So, I buy a new phone, now I need to buy a new car? I mean, WTF?

Was so hoping to be able to backrev the radio so it would work....
[Windows Phone 8 General] sinister1:
You guy are funny, how is a few tweaks to make the UI better going to make WP look like Android? So if Microsoft finally ever gives us a notifications center or the custom MMS\SMS tones options that we've been begging for, will it make it more like Android? If they add more background color options or even a background picture option like in Windows 8, that would mess up the whole Windows Phone system? Ha ha ha ha....
[Windows Phone 8 General] efektos:
I don't twist anything, though you are trying to evade answering my questions.

What does WM have to do with this? And Ballmer's hubris? So WM was popular and so was Symbian... What's your point?

Huh? Do you actually believe what you wrote here? Going from 54% to 55% is trivial - all you have to do is wait for a quarter that one OS has a new flagship device while the other is half a year before launching its new flagship device.

54% to 55% doesn't even count as a progress - while going from 2% to 4% or 5% - that's showing progress since half a year ago no one ever heard of WP, and now 1 of every 50 smartphones used in the world is running WP.

Anyhow, once the numbers of Q2 will be published, I think (and hope) we'll see WP gaining more and more marketshare.
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
^ dude you're funny. Going from 54-55% is trivial? ???. It's clear you have no understanding of markets.

I guess going from 99-100% is trivial too?

You win tho.

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My point was you can't act like those previous OSs didn't exist.

You can't act like WP is Microsofts first attempt in the mobile market.

Sorry if this went over your head.
[Windows Phone 8 General] efektos:
Lol you pull that comparison and then you're trying to imply that it's ME who doesn't have an understanding of how markets work? :D

While 54% to 55% marketshare can be attributed to assessments and calculation errors or margins, 99% to 100% marketshare is impossible - unless of course there's only one and only OS in the market - otherwise, even if there's one OS with 99% marketshare and another which has less than 1%, they'll always be rounded up as 99% vs 1%.

Yeah I know :p
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
You're a funny guy. Now you want to throw calculation and assessment error? When the fact remains that it's harder to grow your market share when it's that large.

2-4% is peanuts compared to 54-55%. No way around that. Ask apple how hard it is to increase its market share.

Apple sells more phones in a quarter than windows phone and all it's OEMs do in a year. But continue to bloviate.

Don't quote me again tho, I said you win
[Windows Phone 8 General] GoodDayToDie:
You keep arguing back, people will keep pointing out the flaws in your arguments... Android has bigger market share (by a good bit) than Apple, and yet has been growing just fine. They're probably starting to level off now, though. In any case, market share growth is better thought of as the loss of market share by others. Thus, going from 2% to 4% really isn't that big a deal - it just means that the market share of all your competition went from 98% to 96%, a very small change. On the other hand, going from 96% to 98% would be a huge deal; it would mean you took fully half of the remaining market (from 4% down to 2%).

Regardless, as a product, WP8 is doing fairly well given the ecosystem; it's not doing *excitingly* well, though, and there's not a lot of very exciting news about the OS. The last thing that general customers cared about in the WP8 world was the fit that Google threw when MS updated the built-in YouTube app to have ad-free playback and the ability to download videos. The last thing that hackers cared about was... I guess when the OS itself was released? There just hasn't been much worthy of excitement. Thus, the cobwebs. Windows RT at least got lots of exciting news.

Mind you, we (the WP hacking community) aren't giving up on WP8. There just haven't been any breakthroughs lately.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Gadgety:
Thank you for a succinct summary of the current status of WP. Part of getting media attention is providing updates, or new OS versions it seems. So in my view WP is the Volvo among phones - trundle along, safely and securely but not terribly exciting. On the hardware front they have one plus, a desperate Nokia, which in turn have two things to bring to the table - their maps feature, and the upcoming TRUE Pureview WP. That's exciting, although of course it doesn't have anything to do with hacks or development etc.
[Windows Phone 8 General] danny8:
I'm really impressed with Nokia's build quality. I always have been, having acquired two Nokia feature phones in the past.

What made those two phones impossible to LIKE was their abysmal software build. Neither phone could be relied upon to wake me up at the programmed alarm time.

One of those phones insulted me further by alarming at random times. I was afraid to take it into a theater or church without removing the battery first.

So, on paper, having MS join forces is a big win. We'll see.

Have to say, while I value discussion, 80% of this thread is pseudo-intellectual rant. Try to edit yourselves. Everybody wins.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shabazz18:
Why does my 2gb phone only have 1.5 gb of RAM?

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[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neniick:
other .5 gb is used by os etc

Verstuurd van mijn HTC One
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] burgs:
hi has anyone got a uk T Mobile Rom latest version or a rom i can use to upgrade my uk 1.60 T Mobile Rom to, as being fairley new to this i seem to be having trouble using any other roms. also could anyone tell me what is the latest and best rom available

Cheers Burgs 8)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] edsub:
Best ROM available is the 1.72.00WWE rom from Qtek or iMate.

To use it you will have to modify the country-id (which contains the provider name).

Just download one of those roms from this site (search for RUU172*)

Follow instructions on the wiki part of this site

Upgrade the Radio and the OS only!

Dont use the Extended ROM (ms_.nbf file) as supplied (ie delete it before the update) as it contains specific customisations from the supplying operators. You might wanna try my 1.72.901 Extended Rom archive (also search this forum) for that.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Theo:
Hi Edsub,

what about RadioROM 1.17?

Worse or better than 1.14?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] edsub:
I have no experience with Radio 1.17, YET

Planned for next week
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Theo:
BTW Edsub,

see my post http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=11618

231 people read this one so far and no one is offering help.

Could you help the less gifted (me)?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] edsub:
Sorry, but on the following page is a description that does the trick:

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/wiki/HimalayaRomFlashing

I just found that it sure is hard to find via the menu's. Fortunately I stored a shortcut to it myself.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Theo:
Hi Edsub,

thanks! That was what i was looking for (for starters).

Lets see if i can make something of this......

To al the others:

thanks for helping me out!
[Galaxy S 4 Themes and Apps] code72:
Hi, i wrote instructions for SGNote 2 but they work also for (rooted) S4:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=28576924&postcount=1
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
Here is some links for some cases. I had a hard time finding a case.

EDIT_____________________

If anyone wants I have the Spigen orange case for sale. http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Ta...09393&sr=8-1&keywords=spigen+lg+optimus+g+pro

And this one from ebay in green. http://www.ebay.com/itm/32111975954...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

The Spigen I want $15 free shipping and the ebay $5 free shipping.

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SPIGEN SGP LG Optimus G Pro Case Slim [Ultra Thin Air] [Tangerine Tango & Sole Black] Hard Case Protection Cover + Front Screen Protector Film

http://www.amazon.com/SPIGEN-SGP-Ta...68831373&sr=8-2&keywords=spigen+optimus+g+pro

EnGive Slim Snap-on Fit Matte Quicksand Hard Cover Case Shell for LG Optimus G Pro with Cleaning Cloth

http://www.amazon.com/EnGive-Snap--...&sr=8-2&keywords=Engive+slim+lg+optimus+g+pro

Iwotou Flexible Matte Rubber Skin Soft TPU Gel Case Cover for LG Optimus G Pro + Free Accessories

http://www.amazon.com/Iwotou-Flexib...8831478&sr=1-1&keywords=lg+optimus+g+pro+case

Many cases on Ebay from over seas.
[LG Optimus G Pro] Jammol:
I just bought the 3rd one, black. Should get it by the 23rd next week. I'll let you guys know what its like. My phone won't be here until Tuesday though!:( can't wait to get my hands on that beautiful b*tch!
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
I own the first two I listed and this one from Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/32111975954...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[LG Optimus G Pro] natienn:
Waiting for the one on the link below to arrive, I have a black TPU case from ebay on now but has the top right corner exposed since is for the international G Pro (TV antenna) so lookout when buying cases for that. I want maximum protection so share if you find. The case on the link below is the bulkiest I have been able to find. I know Incipio has some coming soon, they have one I like on att.com site but only in white/pink.

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=251268575022&index=1&nav=SEARCH&nid=38397970410

Sent from my LG-E980
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
Seidio needs to get on board and make some cases. As well as otterbox. I hate this phone for the sole reason of no 3rd party vender support. I always had a seidio case on my phones.
[LG Optimus G Pro] Yoreo:
I ordered the Nillkin Ultra Thin Matte Cover Case. I think the dimpled texture on the back of it will make the phone a little less slippery. I'll post pics after I get it.
[LG Optimus G Pro] RaiderDuck:
I received the Black Folio Case free for pre-ordering the phone. Regular price is $50.

http://www.att.com/shop/wireless/accessories/cases/sku6610235.html

It's basically a front cover attached to a new back cover, replacing the stock back cover altogether.

The Good: It looks great and covers the screen well. It contains cutouts so you can see the home button LED and talk on the phone with it closed. Having the screen turn off when the cover is closed is nice. I understand installing the case enables wireless charging but am unable to verify this as I don't have a wireless charger.

The Bad: Zero protection on any other part of the phone. In addition, folding the case around so I can hold the phone in one hand causes the cover to stick out slightly past the edge of the phone itself, so it can dig into the fingers after awhile.

Summary: It's a nice case for free, but I wouldn't pay $50 for it.
[LG Optimus G Pro] Jammol:
Whoa, the 3rd case in the op that I just ordered. Be careful, amazon doesn't tell you the shipping cost!!!! I got charged 5 freaking bucks!!! Not buying on amazon again.
[LG Optimus G Pro] rbf351:
i own the 2nd and 3rd one

personally i like the feel of the 3rd one better than the 2nd
[LG Optimus G Pro] fix-this!:
I bought the black spigen. Should be here Tuesday. Not many cases available yet.
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
I have the orange one and I love it.
[LG Optimus G Pro] JGLChilly:
I bought this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BXERB1S/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?qid=1368925875&sr=8-1&pi=SL75

Very pleased with the quality and style.
[LG Optimus G Pro] davidusr:
Just ordered the orange one myself. How's the screen protector? Pretty clear?

Swifted from my LGOG-Pro
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
Its crystal clear. I love this case. Works great and looks good as well.
[LG Optimus G Pro] lessthanzach:
How about finger prints and oils? I just applied my xtreme guard and the only thing I like about it is how it doesn't get very oily and wipes off easily. All 3 of my skins were defective after waiting a week for them though so I'm looking to replace them.
[LG Optimus G Pro] ReggieSmith:
Queried otterbox about a case for the og pro and was told its in the works but no eta.
[LG Optimus G Pro] idle0095:
No finger prints or oil. It works very good.
[LG Optimus G Pro] DeathmonkeyGTX:
That was almost certainly a third party seller. When you buy something on amazon, check the "ships from and sold by" section. I bet it doesn't say amazon on both of those.

Sent via LG E970 with houstonn aokp 4.2.2
[LG Optimus G Pro] Jammol:
Thanks for the advice. I have never paid attention to that before.
[LG Optimus G Pro] RaptorMD:
I got that case on Amazon as well, but I am an Amazon Prime member so my shipping was free for 2-day delivery. Not a bad case, ordered a spare but don't really need it.
[LG Optimus G Pro] myandroid1986:
No i don't know about the tempered glass screen protector as i don't have it installed, and this case is shiny as a glass and good sproofed
[LG Optimus G Pro] Cartier21:
just received my case-mate tough for my OGP from Amazon.

The case is really awesome. Nice grip coz of the rubberized coating.
[LG Optimus G Pro] dpalmer76:
Do you have a link to this on Ebay?
[LG Optimus G Pro] Jammol:
Just go to eBay.com and type in the name of the case and add lg optimus g pro. There's about 5 of them.
[LG Optimus G Pro] cynosure4sure:
Does it have a matte or gloss finish? how is the grip?
[LG Optimus G Pro] californiarailroader:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00DEVORLU/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

EnGive 2 in 1 Set Slim Snap-on Fit Matte Quicksand Hard Cover Case Shell for LG Optimus G Pro with Cleaning Cloth (Black/Blue)

Compatible with LG Optimus G Pro (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile, Sprint, International)

Precision cutouts allow full function of all ports, buttons, cameras, speakers, and mics.

Lay On The Table Design provides lip protection of display screen when faced down.

Material: Polycarbonate(Hard PC)-Highly resistant to oil, dirt, and scratches with finished look of a hard case but shock absorption of a soft case

Due to camera lighting, actual case may contain a subtle shimmer or color deviation not seen in photos

I got those yesterday, and they are awesome! They are thin, but provide good protection, including a slight lip around the front to protect the face. Oh, and wireless charging works great with them on!
[LG Optimus G Pro] klubberdrax:
Ordered this from ebay

Will come back with pictures and review.

My only concern is that the viewfinder fits the lockscreen clock and caller id well.
[LG Optimus G Pro] h11wiscan:
FOXJAIL Simple Block Metallic Diary Case LG Optimus G Pro 5.5 E980 F240 Cover

these looked pretty cool. thinking about getting one.:confused:

one of the other posters already mentioned the iFace Revolution case from this ebay seller, and i decided to look at the rest of his cases. has some neat ones but have to wait for them to come from Korea.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FOXJAIL-Sim...Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&var=&hash=item6d7e7df755
[LG Optimus G Pro] roa57:
I'm so curious about the one from the above poster. It looks really nice, but I'm wondering if the nickel will disrupt anything.
[LG Optimus G Pro] h11wiscan:
Here are some links to eBay Sellers/Stores who have many cases for the Optimus G Pro.

This one says its for the F240 but I assume it would fit E980 and all others since there are no physical changes in the phones really?

http://stores.ebay.com/BROEX-DOT-COM/Optimus-G-Pro-F240-/_i.html?_fsub=4660490011

Same seller who has the case in that i posted in the above post.

http://stores.ebay.com/Mobilehelp/Optimus-G-Pro-/_i.html?_fsub=4694101010
[LG Optimus G Pro] Jammol:
I just ordered the iface revolution. Can't wait, this might be THE case for me!
[LG Optimus G Pro] smaragdhk:
Been using the iFace Revolution for over a week now... Great fit and nice feel, no too bulky. The only drawback is that it isn't compatible with wireless charging due to the back being curved and too thick.
[LG Optimus G Pro] esimon311:
I have the iface tank and the back is pretty thick and it works on my wireless charger.....

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When the fu€k did we get ice cream?
[LG Optimus G Pro] Elsydeon:
I received a Nillkin "Super Frosted Shield" hard case a few days ago in black. I've always been curious about this one, having seen it for other phones I've had in the past, but I never did buy one until now. It's your typical thin, hard case with open lips on the top and bottom. The back is covered in microdots, giving the case a textured feel that also looks quite classy, alongside the Nillkin logo off to one side.

While thin, it's not quite as super thin as some of the frosted transparent hard cases I've had before (Devia on Buychina.com makes such cases for the Optimus G Pro). It noticeably increases the width of the phone, to where it now feels like I'm holding a Galaxy Note II. Also despite having a slightly soft, almost rubbery texture, the case actually makes the phone feel more slippery in the hand. I can constantly feel myself tensing my hand muscles to fight this slipping sensation.

Nice looking case overall, and it comes with a screen protector as well. Not sure I'd buy this again though due to the constant slipping sensation once in hand.

http://www.nillkin.com/english/proshow.asp?mid=2&sid=0&tid=0&cid=1&scid=13&id=3317&page=1