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[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
There sure is a big difference for some reason, with me anyway. The only 2 radios I have found in the Radio thread for AT&T without the RIL (senseless ROMS) is the 2.20 and 3.18 radios. I have bounced back and forth between them, and not seen any difference to speak of. The 3.18 seems to be the more erratic of the 2, for me anyway
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Venomtester:
My advice would be to try a different radio until you get one that works for you. I work out of state so I have to change settings to wcdma only to make them work in the area. I use the 3.18 radios on both CM and Sense because they work best in my home area. Viper is based on 3.17.661.2 so AT&T 2.20 may be the best option to try.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 31ken31:
I use 2.41 seems 80% of the others I've tried plain suck in my area
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] exad:
When flashing radios for CM, also be sure that you are flashing the ones designated strictly for CM as the radio fw is kept in another partition than sense. I've never had an issue finding a radio that works for me. They don't all work well but at least 1 always does. When looking for the best radio, I download them all, test them one at a time, marking the signal strength and speedtest results for each and then flash back to the radio that gave me the best results.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
Isnt that for a sense based ROM? I havent seen 2.41 listed for anything other than a sense ROM

Yeah, changing to WCDMA helped a little, but not much

Im getting the radios out of the radio thread here on XDA. I am d/l the radios in the lower section, for CM. I didnt try a different radio when using Viper, because it was useless seeing as I had so many other issues. I wasnt aware I could use Vodaphone or Telstra radios, on AT&T. I had only tried the 2 AT&T radios. My bad, I will try the others.thanks for the info guys. The speed tests are a moot point for me. As I said, i am in a fringe area. I cant judge anything based on data speed, and leave data turned off most of the time. Im not worried about data speed, or trying to fix anything in that area. Im trying to get my phone to get good enough reception to make/receive calls dependably and send/receive texts dependably. Sorry if there was some confusion over this.

Honestly, I would have stuck with Viper, but my wifi wouldnt work, and I couldnt even get my contacts and calendar imported from my Google account. In fact, there wasnt even a Sync option for contacts. So that was a no go.

Thanks again
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
The 2.41 he mentioned is not a ROM mate it's a radio.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
yeah, I left out the "for"... as in "for a sense based ROM". Sorry, I went back and edited it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
Ahh OK no worries :)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 31ken31:
Yeah it's sense based.I run viper most of the time. That's odd what viper version were you running? I'm on my WiFi now and try to not use data connection at home being I have straight talk and had my speed throttled to almost nothing last 2 months. It have have been a bad download
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Arrow44:
Try 2.40 radio, I get the best reception down here in Texas with it, especially when I go to the lease.

-Sugardaddy
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
Ok, I tried just about every radio in my CM ROM, to no avail. Then, on a whim, I ticked "2G Networks Only", and now I have decent phone signal/reception. This sucks though.... to have my data connection have such an affect on my voice signal. I had always left my data turned off when at home, due to being in a fringe area, and it always bouncing around and killing my battery. That, and I always use wifi at home. Now, I have to leave my data turned on, and in 2G mode... just to be able to make a call. Rather silly to me.

Thanks to everyone who offered to help... MUCH appreciated

P.S. when it was said and done, I think I wound up back on the stock radio for Cory's CM ROM (2.20?)
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 31ken31:
What does your signal do if you have 2g clicked and then turn on wifi
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
signal remains the same... around -87/13, but the Edge "E" icon, disappears from the screen. So, no real difference that I can tell.

It just amazes me that my data connection/type/settings can ruin my voice reception. Hopefully, its going to work decently now.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 31ken31:
Good luck with it
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
thank you! so far, so good! As long as I leave the phone in 2G only, my signal is great. Well, great for my area anyway lol.

With VoLTE being so far out yet, and AT&T not having true 4G, and voice/data being on 2 different frequencies.... how in the world is this happening on this phone? How can enabling/disabling data/4G/2G have such an affect on the voice/text signal? I just cant wrap my mind around this
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] exad:
I'm no expert by any means but if I were to take a guess, I would say it may be due to limitations of towers that are closer to you? IE: closer towers provide 2G signal but have not been updated to support 4G? and the towers that support 4G are further from you?

Like I said, I'm no expert, I'm merely taking an educated guess based on what I do know about the technology.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
Actually, I dont know either, but that does make sense. If the phone is in 4G mode, then ti will try to connect to a 4G tower, which could be further away. But, there were times I had a great signal with 4G enabled, but it was in H, or H+.... and wouldnt make a call.

Im just happy I found how to get a decent... steady signal. I love the HOX, and I love the CM ROM... but I was ready to pull my hair out with this lol.

Thanks for the input, I may ask someone at the local store next time Im in. There is one kid in there, that is pretty knowledgeable. I think the rest of them know less than I do lol
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
Well, I spoke too soon. Now I have good reception, but the quality of my connection SUCKS! I have flashed and tried every radio for CM, and while I have a good signal now (around -85/13) my call quality is terrible and are all fuzzy and fade in and out.

I dunno, Im thinking seriously about going back to stock. I love the idea of having control over my own phone, but Im not in this as a hobby. I just want things to work right. Every ROM I have tried has had one issue or another.... wifi connection issues, wifi going to sleep when it shoudlnt, bluetooth connection problems, a dozen apps starting by themselves, radio/reception issues. Its to the point its just not worth it to me. I dont like having to work on anything every day, and if I do, I feel something needs to change in the situation, if that is the case. Dont get me wrong, Im not slamming any developers, or their projects.

When I was younger, I was always the first to get one of the Celeron CPU's and OC the snot out of it. As I got older, I thought... why? Ill just spend and extra $20 and buy the faster CPU so it is more stable, and not have to mess with anything. Thats sort of how I feel now
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] 31ken31:
Try running a stock rooted Rom. Clean Rom works great
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
do you have control over your phone, like you do in CM?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Heisenberg:
Stock rooted ROMs are completely stock except for the fact that they're pre-rooted. So you won't have the same level of control.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Still have quite a bit of control. At least the radios work. :p

Sent from my HTC One
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
ok, this is really starting to piss me off.... BUT... Im starting to think its AT&T and not the ROMS/Radios.

I took the advice and tried a different ROM. I couldnt find Viper 3.28 (even tho its the latest release) so I d/l Viper 3.27 and the update to 3.28 and flashed them in succession. Got the phone booted up late last, and found out I could get a decent signal WITHOUT having to jump through hoops and disable data or anything of the sort. So, I make a few calls..... EXCELLENT! Everything clear as a bell. So, I spend 2hrs getting everything setup the way I want it, make a few more calls, and everything is still good.

I get up this morning and go to call my dad, and Im right back in the same boat I was on CM.... showing -85/15 for a signal strength.... yet every call is weak and fading in and out and useless. If it were my equipment, why would 6 test calls late last night be fine, but then go to hell this morning?

The ROM itself, I can live with. Im not an over clocker or anything, but this has enough control that is has the main things I want.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] exad:
I would agree that it's most likely not your phone. You can call AT&T and see if they can reset the phone on the network, that may make things better.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
thanks. I am going to try to get to the local store Sunday.... cant get there before then. I like to deal with people in person. They arent as likely to try to pull something when you are right there face to face lol.

Edit: also.... I didnt have this issue when I first got the phone, and used it stock on Straight Talk, then rooted with CM Official on Straight Talk, or when I switched to AT&T... with no changes to the ROM
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] SilverFox66:
Update:

It is NOT my phone, or a radio issue with the phone. I finally had time to delve into this more, and had my son bring his SGIII out (which normally has just a little better reception than mine, and has worked at my house with no problem) and he couldnt even place a call. Ok, not just me/my phone then. Went tot he local AT&T store and found out they are upgrading the local tower to 4G/LTE and apologized for the convenience, and said it should all be done in no more than 2 weeks. So, while I am glad we know the problem, its aggravating that I basically cant use my phone for anything but texting (while at home) for another 2 weeks.

Thanks to everyone who helped out
[HTC EVO 3D] Gmobilize:
Yesterday I brought my EVO to service for warranty as problems was prox sensor not working ,left unsticked frame side and random power offs ,the screen also came out a lil bit . It got fixed in less then a day and they changed the entire frame with all the switches an LCD etc absolutely for free.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
Right, i'd appreciate any help you guys can give me, especially if it means i don't have to spend money.

My XDA fell about a foot off my bved onto a capeted room, it's fine but now there's a line going straight down the middle of it. then the screen flickers and the whole right of the screen is covered with vertical lines then it goes back to being just the one line in the middle.

Now i'm guessing that a new screen would sort that out instantly but say i didn't have £150.20 lying around, anyone got any suggestions?

Thanks loads guys
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] chameleon:
small suggestion

my two cents worth:

all LCDs are connected by some sort of ribbon connector to the main board of a unit, my experience with nokia celphones INDICATES that some lines in the LCD do not display due to LOOSE connection between the ribbon connector to the mainboard. Sometimes, we just replace the ribbon and even just push it to the board a little and this seems to solve the problem.

My suggestion to you would be: There is a site that i've seen that sells replacement LCD and glass covers, and its a DO-IT-YOURSELF kit, so get info on how to OPEN your XDA, if youre not fainthearted, then apply a little pressure on the ribbon connection to the mainboard, this may help. OTHERWISE, if you are not a TECHIE, have a service center check that for you, YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO REPLACE THE LCD anyway.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
Nice, you wouldn't have te address for the place that sells the screens would you?

Ta
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] cruisin-thru:
It may be that you have dislodged the cable connecter or the contact connection to the screen, many nokias displayed this same fault and sold millions of screens when all that was needed was either to attend to the connections or remove the elastomer and reverse it, or replace the elastomer. An elastomer is a small rubber block with a row of connecters either side, this is the bridge for the electrical/video lines to the screen. Its worth a look anyway to see if anything obvious has occured.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] chameleon:
try searching "Repacement LCD Screens", you might find the shop that sells them, its in a thread here somewehere.

The latest suggestion and mine are almost identical, YES, it may really be the ribbon connector that was PARTIALLY dislodge or looses contact sometime.

Search and ye shall find. hehehe. goood luck. Tell me when you find it and POST the thread here will you, for others with the same problem as you to be helped.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] chameleon:
website

OH, heres the website.

http://www.pdasmart.com/pdaphone.htm
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
thanks, i'm really glad to hear it's probably just the cable, but now the problem is finding the right screwdrivers :P
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
lol, seriously i haven't got any screwdrivers the size to open my XDA, and i don't particularly want to send it off to a repair centre, they'd charge me for labour, anyone got any ideas?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] cruisin-thru:
You need a t6 torx driver and a flat blade dirver and a small crosshead driver.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
Anyone Got a t6 torx driver? because i know i haven't lol. how many people do you reckon would have one?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jjones:
UPDATE

evening all, just got me T6 screwdriver, i opened my XDA and found what looked like te connector and had a bit of trail and error but it still doesn't completely fix it, any ideas?[/code]
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Flyer729:
I can't get the new hangouts app installed in my galaxy s4. It says it is already installed, but when I press open, it opens the old talk app. Any thoughts?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] B. Dre:
We need the new Google play services for it to work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] movieaddict:
http://androidspin.com/2013/05/15/download-latest-google-apks-announced-at-google-io-2013-here/

If u already have google music installed on your phone just go to play market and update the app. The new hangout apk is above with all the other apks if needed!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] mikeyinid:
I had to install hangouts from my pc
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Prozart:
Thanks! Loving the updated apps so far.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Flyer729:
The link worked for me! Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Lolento:
The new hangout sucks!!! Big time!

I need to know the online status of my friend before I send them a message, I do not want to message ppl while they are in the middle of something.

Also, after install Hangout, Google Play Services seem to be a HUGE battery drain!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] takethebox:
There is a green under their photo that tells you they are online. Also their photos are bolder than people who are offline.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] lornova:
No, there isn't. Not in the Android app at least. The green underline is visible only in the browser version.

To me Hangout is a HUGE step back compared from Talk. :mad:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xxjrsmith3xx:
I can't get no notifications at all...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shinydude100:
Hey

As someone else mentioned, which is the method i used as well, use your Desktop and go to the google play store, find hangouts and it will let you install, choose your S4 from the devices list, and bam, force-update over Gtalk. You're welcome.

P.S. I suggest you install from the Play Store. Also, notifications work entirely fine for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] unciviilized:
Does anybody know how to delete pictures stored on the gallery from when u send a pic in hangouts it automatically saves them, kinda of annoying. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Saintfyre:
The method I used is if you're rooted just uninstall Google Talk w/ Titanium Backup, go into the Play Store and download/install Hangouts.

Just an alternative method from what's been stated.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Michowski:
Is anybody using this app?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] morzinbo:
I just installed CM 10.1 RC2 and am finding myself Unable to connect to facebook via third party apps. When I put my username and password, I sucessfully log in, but as soon as it reaches the screen where I can accept the connection, the OK and Cancel buttons completely disappear. Is this a problem with CM, or my phone, or something else?

Well this place isn't very helpful.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chanchan305:
I think it's a horrible app you can't see who is online or busy or whatever. This is not a chat service anymore. There is no contact list basically listing all the people from your G+ and contacts. It's horrible!. In every level.﻿ I have to scroll through 800 contacts or search just to send a message and it doesn't even let me know if that person is online, so I have no idea how they are getting my messages
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I have to agree. This is pretty terrible. They even removed the calling option so its just video now, as if video-only makes sense on a PHONE.

Hopefully Talk isn't dead by the end of the year.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chanchan305:
Thankfully when you uninstall google hangouts you get google talk back
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I'm going to agree as well. I dont like that I cant see who's online. And almost all of my contacts dont have this service so, in my opinion, they shouldnt show up at all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kenedy:
If you guys have any link to updated apk please post it
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NexusHeat:
Wow, that sounds bad. I'm so glad I saw this thread before installing this garbage.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
It's in the Play Store
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chanchan305:
I just sent a message to a yahoo account, thinking I was going to get an email or something, NOP! Nothing, so you have to be totally sure that message you're sending it's to someone who has a gmail account
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I did that as soon as it asked me to confirm my phone number. I really just want the built-in IM that came with my account, not a Whatsapp clone to replace it. I already have Whatsapp.

Hopefully Talk never dies. Hangouts is social media disguised as instant messaging.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
So after watching a video on it, I realized it does show who is online by displaying their profile pic at the bottom when they join the hangout. But still, it shouldnt display ALL my contacts in the contact list. Just the ones who have the ability to use it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CRIME INC.:
Idk maybe it's just me, but I like the new hangout. You can send screenshots again and everything. Granted, it takes some getting used to, but after playing with it a bit, its growing on me:p

sent from my Sprint GNEX running AXIOM ROM courtesy of DroidTh3ory
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chanchan305:
exactly!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] !!11oneone:
I just wish it was a proper unified messaging app - i.e. could send carrier SMS to non-Hangout contacts. Incidentally, anyone know what happens to the message if you do try and send to someone who doesn't have it? Must get routed somewhere?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chanchan305:
I'm still waiting for the message I sent to my yahoo account :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I would think this only works with Gmail/Google+ users. Which, again, is why not all contacts should not be displayed. I'm going to try and search for some info on this.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Why would you think this would happen? Google doesn't want you using carrier SMS anyway. They will shift us to internet-based messaging completely someday. That's why you didn't get SMS integration.

I'm guessing it gets sent to their Google Talk.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Pecata:
So if you go and try to start a hangout it will show you a list of people to start the hangout with, people not available(offline) has their picture grayed out and the available(online) are shown as usual. As far as the video calling-I think if the person on the other end doesn't have video calling available(due to no front facing camera on their phone or no camera on the desktop/laptop) only voice calling will be the option available....have to test it though... I think it's fresh and after awhile it will get better...I don't hate it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pfmiller:
Sadly a lot not to like so far. I was wondering why there were duplicate users in my contact list, if they are showing non-gmail email accounts separately I guess that explains it. Unfortunately, it doesn't show what account users in the list are coming from so you don't know which one you can use, if any.

Hopefully they will fix the contact mess and re-add status information (online/busy/offline, mobile/desktop). I like the new emoji, but hardly seems worth the great leap backwards in functionality.

On the plus side, you can finally copy text from your message history, so that's one longstanding, inexplicable failure corrected :rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
This is what is really annoying. It feels like a dumbed-down product even though its been in the making for what seems like forever. It even requires you to join G+ to get the most out of it. Plus, its not even really that unified, as people still have G+ messenger since this only replaces Talk.

Heck, the app rating in the Play store has plummeted to 3.9 as I type this. What a joke.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mb_3000:
completely useless.

I can't believe it took them two years to make this.

google talk was MUCH better, and compared to let's say, whatsapp, google talk was completely useless. that's how bad this thing is.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I daresay it will drive even more Android users to Whatsapp.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sounava:
What is the big fuss about?

1. You get the list of Frequently contacted people which is pretty accurate, and barely need to go down to the "all contacts" section.

2. Offline contacts' profile pictures are grayed out

3. I tried sending a hangout message to a contact who only has a phone number, got a popup saying This contact is not using Hangout.

4. If a user has Gmail, he will get the message in Hangout, else in Gtalk, else as email.

I could not find any user who only has non-gmail email account so could not test what happens to those messages though.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ferozfero:
^This
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pfmiller:
1. The list is a mess full of people and circles from G+ who I have never contacted, not even once.

2. Only helpful when creating a new hangout. 90% of the time I am returning to an existing conversation and will not see the grayed out icons. Plus there is nothing about if they are idle or on mobile and no way to indicate if they are busy. These are all thing I used frequently to decide if I wanted to bother someone.

3. Why are completely nonfunctional users cluttering up the list?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
1. Agreed. Hopefully they consolidate. Not too bad to type the name out though, and then it's added to the conversation list.

2. I see ZERO reason why I need to know an "availability status". If they are busy, they'll get the message when they return.

3. So you will invite them! It's a brand new service, they want you to tell your friends.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lauslein:
Btw: is there a way to mute notification sounds for the Chrome extension? Haven't found anything so far…
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andQlimax:
To remove messenger, an update of the g+ app is required of course.

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