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[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
Nothing in the UK yet, just checked with PC Companion.
[Xperia Z General] BobKatz:
Thanks all for the update
[Xperia Z General] lombego:
yes Switzerland is rollig out.. But at least my phone has the German Generic firmware..
[Xperia Z General] alias_neo:
I can confirm here, nothing on PCC for Windows and no OTA. I'm holding out patiently for OTA to keep root, it's really testing my resolve, not flashing one of hte others. I'm proud of my will power so far :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
It's not generic, it's region specific, and if they aren't ready to push it they aren't ready.
[Xperia Z General] BobKatz:
Have updated the front page. Fingers crossed UK generic will get something soon beofre 4.2.* starts rolling out
[Xperia Z General] Cpfoxhunt:
I'm not criticising the fact that the UK is later or earlier than others - they can choose when to update reasons depending on radios, install base etc.

I'm annoyed because UK carriers have rolled out the update, whereas UK unbranded handsets have not received it despite it clearing relevant hurdles to work in the UK!
[Xperia Z General] nunoacruz:
Just have to wait, I hope it doesn't take to long :)
[Xperia Z General] moelito:
Received the update with OTA yesterday in Sweden. 60 and something megs. Root still there after update!

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[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
To be honest I'm waiting for the O2 version to be rolled out even though the Rom exists.

You can look at it another way, All the networks should roll it out first as it there is something in just the UK specific part that doesn't work on a Network, it won't work on your unbranded version on the network you use. Yeah you can say but things never happen but remember the Galaxy Nexus Volume bug that was network specific even tho the Firmware wasn't.
[Xperia Z General] simbawimba:
hope it's the same in the UK, prefer not to have to go through hassle of rooting again.
[Xperia Z General] Necroaly:
Someone recive update Vodafone România? The Last one?
[Xperia Z General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
Exactly!

However, curiously, I flashed the available O2 UK Firmware and found that it didn't contain the Sony Account Manager (which you need for Video Unlimited).

None of the other available firmware contained it either - but the latest German unbranded does.

I'm wondering whether the delays (especially for Gemany and the UK) are down to some problem with integrating / updating the SAM to work with the latest firmware?
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
What did you do? I don't understand why it would retain root on nordic .253 but not on US .253?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Because he updated OTA, not via the update tool on a PC. I would imagine /system is wiped when you update via the update tool, but only updated/new files are touched when updating OTA.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
But people are saying the only way to get root on .253 is by flashing a pre-rooted version and having your bootloader unlocked.

Nobody ever said you can just OTA update and retain root.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
People were correctly saying that before the update was released OTA as you will lose root when updating via the PC tool and cannot regain it via previous methods.

It's generally known that you will keep root when updating OTA. That's why I will be waiting to update that way :)
[Xperia Z General] nikkon:
got the update on Orange Romania :)
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
So OTA wasn't available for US either until just now?
[Xperia Z General] moelito:
Yes, I kept root because I updated with OTA.

I waited to update until the OTA because it has always been said that root will only be kept this way. With always said I mean the original update thread here at XDA;)

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[Xperia Z General] fards:
how many times does this need to be repeated.

YOU DO NOT NEED BOOTLOADER UNLOCKED to update from 434 to 253 if you use one of the zipped update methods, to retain root.

Its relatively quick and fairly easy and painless..

obviously 253 OTA is the better option if you have unmodified files in system.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Still nothing for UK unbranded :( come on Sony get it together your servers could easily handle the load now ffs!
[Xperia Z General] scorpi786:
I can imagine it now: Some obese, warcraft geek manning the desk "working" on the UK unbranded update. Waiting till every country finishes so he can enjoy his marathon fap fest...
[Xperia Z General] sahinz:
turkey got that 1 week ago
[Xperia Z General] xcmike:
i just got the update through OTA.

i'm in Australia...
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
I meant to say OR not AND.. jeez
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Now that made me chuckle
[Xperia Z General] murrayalex:
How frustrating, still no UK update. For those complaining about carriers getting the update first, shows that Sony makes more money from carrier deals than they do from selling the phone unlocked & hence their first priority will be keeping the carriers happy. That's the way of the world.
[Xperia Z General] vainucleo:
OTA update is available today in Italy on unbranded. However on my rooted phone (locked bootloader, stock recovery) .253 downloads, reboot, tries to install, reboots again and says "Impossible to install, please retry" :( What can it be?
[Xperia Z General] alias_neo:
Your system is modified and it's trying to patch something that is changed or doesn't exist.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
At my school they spent £50m building it from scratch with iMacs everywhere. They also have a technical support team, who go around fixing anything that goes wrong with the updated IT equipment, or are supposed. Whenever someone is sent to get them, they would find the team on their Macbooks playing World of Warcraft, and be told to wait a half an hour until they weren't busy anymore.

Also, nothing for UK unbranded yet.
[Xperia Z General] vainucleo:
Are you referring to root? I read that almost all users with rooted phones did succesfully the OTA update, but I can't remember of modifying my system in any other way than root. What can it be?
[Xperia Z General] alias_neo:
Did you restore the fixed lib for the service menu to switch bootloader unlock back to yes? Root exploit patches service menu, and this could be one cause.

Did you change anything else in system? Remove any apps or update them? These would have an effect. There may be other things, but I've not received an OTA yet so I can't investigate further.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Still as of yet nothing for UK unbranded.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Even OTA available for ZL german unbranded :)
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i'm really dreading it but i really think i will have to flash my phone :cyclops:
[Xperia Z General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2297717

This works perfectly on my UK unbranded - but you know that already ron3000! :)
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Can't belive we are still waiting Zzzzzzzzz
[Xperia Z General] scorpi786:
ron I would recommend the O2 .253 rom in the resources thread, for me it was smoother then the central european version.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
is it branded ?
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
We have waited this long, we might as well carry on!

It may be released tomorrow (sigh) lol :p
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
nah i doubt it lol:p
[Xperia Z General] scorpi786:
I can't notice any o2 logo or branding.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
cud u direct me to such a beauty
[Xperia Z General] scorpi786:
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B86hBX74NR6GcVl5TVMwUEFFbnM/edit?pli=1
[Xperia Z General] tonylee2000:
I have tried to flash this today using flashtool and keep getting an error message:

30/052/2013 20:52:28 - ERROR - Cannot delete C:\Flashtool\.\firmwares\prepared\simlock.ta

I have already flashed the global .253 but want the O2 branded version. I have tried rebooting my PC and also using USBDeview to check for contradictions but to no avail.

Anybody got any clues?
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Reboot your pc try again.

Or delete the folder prepared if still exist after closing flashtool.

Or remove flashtool and install again.
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
Still nothing here. Just checked the OTA... :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] Dreiundachzig:
Delete prepare folder and exclude simlock.ta in flashtool. You have to flash six parts: system, fota, unknown, kernel, baseband and partition.
[Xperia Z General] tonylee2000:
I believe that has fixed it.

Many thanks!:good:
[Xperia Z General] Energizer Bunny:
Is it just me or is .253 still not out on O2 branded in the UK? I get nothing via either the update centre or via the PC application. Anybody else on O2?
[Xperia Z General] Dreiundachzig:
Did you modify or delete any system file? .
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
Perhaps O2 taking ages to approve the update is why generic UK still has not been released.

I bet Sony have agreed to release the unbranded software last so carriers don't have to listen to customers complaining they have not yet received the update.

I'm getting seriously bored of waiting, the amount of time passed since it started rolling out is becoming beyond a joke - with each day that goes past I'm getting more and more tempted to flash CM10.1
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Yup the O2 Rom exists they refuse to put it out yet, but the ftf is on here.
[Xperia Z General] Gandalf Greyhelm:
I tried the O2 ftf from here - it had no branded boot screen or Sony Account Manager - settled for the German unbranded instead.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
I'm gonna just wait then, there must be a reason for the Delay.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Still nothing for UK unbranded! It doesn't even need to add anything all you need is to take all the branding away, it should've been the FIRST update not the last! ffs.
[Xperia Z General] alias_neo:
I'm keeping my hopes up that the delay means we'll jump straight to the next update.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Like I suggested before it's not about that, if a Network doesn't approve its 253 and you was unbranded but On that network and it didn't work it wouldn't work on the Unbranded and you would be in trouble.
[Xperia Z General] l0tech:
I've got an unbranded UK Xperia Z and I've had the 253 firmware for over a week...
[Xperia Z General] Cpfoxhunt:
In a geuinely non sarcastic way, could you explain why?

So far as I am aware (and I'm not an engineer so I'm very probably wrong), the software/hardware needed to connect to any UK network is going to be the same between builds. I am also *guessing* that it doesn't carry any software that the networks own copyright to, so their permission isn't needed to release.

I thought that in this country, unlike with Verizon and other CDMA US networks (are there any?) an unbranded phone could work on all UK networks due to common wireless standards imposed by the government, and therefore I am unclear why network approval would be needed. In addition, it has previously been my experience with unbranded handsets (iphone, Lumia 920, Desire S etc) that the unbranded firmware dropped before the carrier ones, as the carriers plonk down their customisation on each update before it can go live (rather than testing for network compatibility as you suggest.)

Thanks!
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
What is your customization number?
[Xperia Z General] wyterabitt:
There was still nothing when I checked about an hour ago.

Off topic, can anyone upload or link me to a UK unbranded rom to flash?

I was playing around with a custom ROM as I got bored of waiting for the update. I messed something up unfortunately, and even though I had assumed I'd made a backup I remembered when I went to get it that the internet was down at the time, so never got around to it :silly:

(I am currently trying SUS, but I think it is not downloading the UK unbranded one)
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2173528
[Xperia Z General] wyterabitt:
Thanks
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
A issue can be Network specific even if the Software is generic.
[Xperia Z General] simbawimba:
Pc companion update or OTA?
[Xperia Z General] Cpfoxhunt:
Yes but why/ in what way? Is it to do with the different frequencies? Different intervals to call cell towers? In the UK most networks share resources to quite a large extent, with some networks completely supervenient on others in some cities.

Also there is I believe an EU requirement that handsets be unlockable for a certain fee. This means that a handset running say Three firmware is required by law to be able to accept an O2 sim when the unlock fee has been paid and code entered. This is a byproduct of the interplay between EU competition law and radio spectrum law, with some specific legislation in the area (Directive 2005/29/EC).

So either the carriers are understandably being a bit lax about their obligations in this area or something else is going on.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Well the Galaxy Nexus Volume bug was frequency based, so if something like that was present in an OTA yeah if you was on that network your phone wouldn't work but if you had a branded phone you wouldn't receive the update and you would still have a working phone.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
thanks very much...:victory:
[Xperia Z General] ianrobbie:
On O2 pay as you go and .253 update has just popped up on OTA!
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
Is that an O2 locked device? Mine is sim free, and nothing comes up on OTA.
[Xperia Z General] ianrobbie:
No. Sim free.
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
That's very odd. I just checked again, still nothing for me.
[Xperia Z General] ianrobbie:
Just realised I installed a custom ROM last night based off the unbranded. 253 going about. If you install custom ROMs I would highly recommend it. It was the eXistenz custom ROM available on here.
[Xperia Z General] mustaine8661:
Delete
[Xperia Z General] simbawimba:
annoying! lol

I'm on O2 contract but through carphone warehouse so it's unbranded and still nothing in the updates :(
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Does anyone else with an unbranded sim free phone have a PAYG sim inside? Is that what's preventing me getting the update?
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
The update is down to the phone not the SIM!

It could have a SIM from Timbuktu or even no SIM, it will arrive at the same time.
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
That's true, in theory. This is why I do not understand, how could the update pop up for others, but me.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
When his popped up his phone was not an O2 phone anymore.
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
I mean, mine is SIM free, his one was also, still, he got the update and I didn't.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Could be a Different region.
[Xperia Z General] ianrobbie:
I see my post has met with a wee bit of confusion. I've since found out that I flashed a custom ROM with .253 but it still had the .434 kernel.

When I flashed the custom ROM, it installed all of the features of the new .253 but left the kernel from .434 intact, which was prompting the Sony Update app to tell me that .253 was available. Apparently, it was an unbranded 2.53 ftf which the ROM was based on and after I flashed the kernel from another unbranded .253 ROM, the update notification disappeared.

Incidentally, I would recommend flashing eXistenz (the ROM I used) it's quick, smooth and looks better than the stock ROM.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Has anyone who's updated noticed more lag in games. Real racing for me definitely lags a lot more. Frame drops everywhere. So too alien vs predator.
[Xperia Z General] SE_iCEQB:
Is the update available for unbranded phones in germany via OTA?
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Yes.

At least for ZL.. but I think Z was 2 days earlier
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
Mine is Generic UK version. No update on OTA and SPC either.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
There isn't one That's what I mean when they put on the custom Rom their unbranded was now a different regions unbranded.
[Xperia Z General] samxool:
is it possible that Sony have missed out/forgotten about UK unbranded???

do we know if it is definitely coming and not some kind of oversight???
[Xperia Z General] Energizer Bunny:
Still nothing on O2

Starting to think they aren't going to bother with .253 and just wait for the next upgrade
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
If they are not going to bother then why did they change the Sony support site to say that version .253 is the latest version?

It is getting more and more ridiculous as time as goes on, there is waiting for a rollout, but this has been nearly a month - starting to wonder why I even bothered buying unbranded.

The carriers clearly have Sony in their pockets and until the last carrier approves their firmware, they don't release generic in that country. Clearly in this instance it seems to be O2, as usual, the ones who actually blocked ICS updates coming to some of the older handsets,
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
Oh, I see.
[Xperia Z General] decadan1977:
I highly doubt that Sony can forget about a whole nation... And a highly profitable area with so many potential customers. I'm sure there is some logic behind the delay in the UK update.
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
The most frustrating thing is that they are not communicating with us or explaining what may be a logical delay.

I wouldn't mind so much if they explained why, but just dishing out the same BS excuse of it may not be available in all countries for all carriers at the same time tells us nothing.

We don't need a date set in stone, but some idea why we are being left would be nice.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
The people that communicate with consumers, ie the Sony customer service agents, have absolutely no idea about updates aside from what is available to them on their support system and the scripts they work from.

So having established that, they are giving out the only information that they have available to them. ;)
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
I know and that is the problem, but someone further up should be giving them more information to give us.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
when u ask on sony forum they delete the comments
[Xperia Z General] Energizer Bunny:
I suspect the bottleneck here is O2 rather than Sony. I will see if I can get any sense out of them.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i asked o2 but they said it's up to sony so i wouldn't know what to believe
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
But the People you speak to at O2 they have nothing to do with the engineers that approve the updates either. Unless you can talk to one of those people you're not getting the right info.
[Xperia Z General] LEGGYMAMBO:
Hi,

I'm on .434 with Vodafone UK, locked bootloader, rooted, and installed locked dual recovery.

I can download the OTA update for .253, however, the install fails every time.

Not quite sure where I'm going wrong as I was under the impression I could update OTA and keep root.

Any tips, help or pointed in the right direction would be appreciated thanks!!
[Xperia Z General] Energizer Bunny:
Ok I just made a post on the O2 forums and got this from a Mod

In other words its the O2 bloatware that's holding things up!

I've asked them what the timescales for release are and will repost the response if I get one.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
They did have Problems with O2 Priority Moments one time, at least it's nothing major they just gotta work!
[Xperia Z General] Gubro:
The most annoying is, that the sim unlocked handsets are all waiting for the o2 release. Unbelievable.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Bad for you guys but as an O2 customer I need to know my Body Shop discounts, free Chocolates at Smiths and my Discounted Lunches at train stations available at all times.....
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
LOL!

Maybe it's not so bad to have an unbranded device :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] zippy01:
That did make me laugh, I got a free speaker from priority moments lmao :offtopic:
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Nothing for UK unbranded, still.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
nope :highfive:
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
I've just been on the phone to 02 and have been given the same answer. I said I can understand 02 need to see that the update is stable for their branded devices but what about us unbranded O2 owners who outnumber branded. Bit of a topsy turvy way of doing things isn't it?

I've been promised a phone call back. A man is speaking to the man who deals with the updates and Sony this evening so hopefully I'll get an answer later or tomorrow!

Not gonna hold my breath lol
[Xperia Z General] LenAsh:
Oh yeah, of course.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
I bought this phone because it has expandable memory and on the basis that it'd get quicker updates then the One. I should've got the One it seems, it has 4.2.2 and better specs and a unique camera, Could've got a 32GB One which would've been perfect, or a 32GB Nexus 4...
[Xperia Z General] down4wotever:
Does anyone here remember the sheer agony X10 owners went through with slow updates, no info (no multi touch, oh sorry our clever engineers have found a workable solution...) I look back with a smile because on that day people power won, the long petitions, perhaps more effective the negative press woke up Sony Ericsson's crew; they started to listen. I just feel like we are being taken for mags again, especially when you consider how minor this never arriving update is. Imagine how long before we receive 4.2.2 when they finally get round to it? Probably just before the 24 month contracts end.
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
The HTC One only has 4.1.2 at the moment, the CPU is little more than a tweaked S4 Pro (same GPU, no noticeable real world difference) and the camera is only better in low light, otherwise produces photos with less detail due to fewer pixels.

And before you say I'm a Sony fanboi, I have had both and kept the Z :)
[Xperia Z General] nick2crete:
Why such a delays always with Uk.? I remember the same with XS last year..

Sent from my SGPT12
[Xperia Z General] ixon2001:
Not just Sony doing this Samsung is doing it aswell now, I have a Simfree Galaxy S4, the carriers ie Vodaphone and 3 have already had the latest update 2 weeks ago, simfree nothing as of yet, think just like you lot where waiting on O2 to release their update before we on simfree get it which could take forever.

It never use to be like this back in the days of the S1 & S2 the simfree always got the updates first, with carriers releasing much later due to adding their bloatware.

But since last year & the release of the S3, it seems they come to some agreement with Vodaphone, EE, 3 & O2 to let them release any updates before Simfree, mainly to try to push people onto contract.

I've also noticed with any new Smartphone release these days it very hard to get a simfree phone on day of release, because contracts come first.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
I remember this happened just before the 434 update too, so hope it's the same for this one :D (although mine is connected fine at the moment)
[Xperia Z General] noj78:
Nah! False alarm am now connected again after 35 mins of not being able to connect!!!

Phone is up to date:(
[Xperia Z General] sandrin0:
Try using Sony Update Service instead of PCC. Read that should do the job! Good luck :)
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Looking forward to the update.. Amazed by some people's impatience on here over this latest patch. The "I want it now attitude" isn't a good thing and a sad reflection on society today.
[Xperia Z General] noj78:
Tried that earlier, No luck either!

No one is saying " I want it now "

Not that bothered really but would be nice to have it before I go back to sea for 6 weeks.

It would give me the latest firmware to play around with;)
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
For most I think it's more excitement over being impatient, & I don't see anything wrong with that.

This thread is just helping us keep updated with whether it's released or not to the countries still waiting :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Oh not flaming anybody on this thread which is handy instead of plugging my phone in and checking I may add. :good:

I'm excited to see the benefits of the new update too ;)