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[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Well it's good to know that at least you're not a hypocrite.

Still doesn't justify calling people impatient who are already waiting for the update to come.

They're a waiting, they may not be happy about it but they're waiting.

In fact their critique of Sony isn't that they have to wait, it's to do with the fact that they have to wait longer than others. I don't see a great crime being committed there.

If you take a different position, that's good and you can express that without having to attack others.
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
+1

If Apple can release a software update for the whole world and for many devices at the same time, it is unjustifiable that Sony takes several weeks to release an update for just one device.

In my opinion, at least all unbranded phones should receive the update at the same time.
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
All my updates have been via the update centre on my phone so it shouldn't be different this time would it?

Oh still nothing btw :)
[Xperia Z General] lebowsky77o:
I think the update is very near. I bought German phone from Amazon too

Cheers from the sunny Spain
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Mine have come through pcc first, ota is usually late for me.

And yes I agree, if those of you who feel we're 'complaining' then you are pretty much a hypocrite as you're complaining about others - when they're merely expressing their views and are entitled to do. This place has no need for people trolling and trying to appear almighty. If attacking others opinions and feelings make you feel good and above them then you must be a very bitter and angry person in general.

No wonder why some people are afraid to post if all you will see are those who will always talk down on them and make them look like a bad person. Let's keep it friendly eh? ;)
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Telling people to calm down is not hypocritical as it is what you are doing too.
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
Can we all just agree to disagree now and get this back to tracking the progress of the rollout?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Says everyone is entitled to express their opinion.

Berates others for expressing an opinion that he doesn't agree with.

Just...... LOL.

I only initially said anything because I'm sick and tired of seeing new posts in this thread, opening it expecting actual news and finding someone else stamping their feet and saying Sony is useless because they haven't got the update 3 whole days after release.

I would have left it at that, but if you expect me to not reply to being directly quoted and argued against, then that ain't gonna happen. :D

Anyway, if you think anything I said in any of my posts amounts to an attack or trolling, then report it and let the mods decide. ;)

People are far too sensitive, so I'll spell it out to you. This is not an attack on you or anyone else, veiled or otherwise.

Peace :beer:
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
I too am tired of seeing people trolling on others, same as how you're feeling towards people who are impatient right?

No beer thanks, not my thing. Btw, I am female ;)

Settled. Happy days
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
LOL. It's not trolling just because you say so, you know? Trolling is posting with the sole intention of annoying others, so you could say that your post is trolling, no?

Apologies for not knowing you're female. Most people here are not, so easy wrong assumption to make. :)

Anyway, I will agree to leave this if you will. My point was made long ago in my first post! :thumbup:
[Xperia Z General] BobKatz:
Been off the board for while after updating the front page, just come back and I find this!

Please move windging about Sony and misunderstanding each other to somewhere else. The whole point of this thread was to track the update by people kindly coming on and telling us when, where and how they’re receiving it. No one’s going to bother if they have to go through pages and pages of this vitriol.

Be aware this is not too anyone in particular it’s just out there
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Sorry, my definition of trolling is patrolling like police lol. It was never my intention to cause an argument etc. Just really wanted to see less of the winging from both sides.

Now, where's my update lol? ;) just playing!
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Explaining why a Update is not yet live is on topic, Some people are not aware of how updates work. Moaning about it....I dunno.

I just want to see someone say they updated O2 UK, I just see Sony bashing.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
and i want the unbranded...:cool:
[Xperia Z General] BobKatz:
It’s very odd though, German and UK branded phones are getting the updated but nothing for unbranded?! The rest of the world seems to be done, so what is it? Maybe the Sony servers won’t be able to cope with the sheer number of unbranded phone owners.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I don't even think there was much whining as you put it going on. People were just talking and trying to understand why some regions get it before others.

To come in and just accuse them all of impatient whining was totally uncalled for.

Ok the conversation may have strayed to the 4.2 update but that's not totally unrelated.

Regional updates are always going to lead to some people feeling left out. I don't think a few lines here and there venting those frustrations deserved that sort of response.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Explanation is what I would like to see too, it's just Sony not informing that irritates, which then leads to bashing. I think it's only human nature for us to at the end of the day, it was never to annoy others though.

Anyways, have left mine plugged in with PCC on, will keep this updated if I get anything :)
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
Not aware of how updates work? Well, coming from an iPhone, lets say I'm not used to this pathetic performance of Sony.
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Really? Coming from an apple background before the xperia Z and gladly so I'm sure if apple can do one big update for all its not out of the question for Sony to follow suite?

Surely it's a question of how Sony chooses to do updates which in my opinion needs to change simply going by the posts in this thread and all the people that clearly have grown impatient and flashed roms.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Years ago Both Sony Ericsson and HTC posted articles on what makes an Android update and the various stages that go on, and where the potential hold ups could be, so with any update I just think it takes as long as it takes.

Being on xda it's different as you know a Update exists from when it's being tested, you know every where it's been rolled out to, which networks have it and which don't, just more information.

Plus at the Bleeding Edge you can be waiting weeks for a Nexus device update even tho another phone that got it before yours is identical.
[Xperia Z General] lebowsky77o:
Any news about the German unbranded update?

Thank you

Enviado desde mi LT26i usando Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] TLLmeister:
Germany still nothing, checked 5mins ago.:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] dante501:
Yeah it has been out as soon as u hook it up to ur PC and u have the sony companion toll installed it will tell u there is an update. I didn't update yet until there is the same way on rooting the xperia z like u can on the older version. Because I don't feel like having the software buttons back and taking away extra display. So I keep the old one for now.
[Xperia Z General] lebowsky77o:
Dante is your phone unbranded??

thanks
[Xperia Z General] dante501:
Looks for ur self.
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i think it's branded..... still waiting in the uk
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I don't really expect to see UK firmware roll out before week commencing 27th May. If I had to put money on it, I'd say towards the end of that week.
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
update for uk

how come you still can`t update your phones in uk

http://www.sonymobile.com/gb/software/phones/xperia-z/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Because they have updated the page before actually releasing the unbranded software. I believe some branded devices have been updated though, so the website isn't a complete fallacy :D
[Xperia Z General] sfkaudi:
It's a strange strategy they use. If I remember correctly, I received update before the Sony mobile. Dk side changed funny:eek:
[Xperia Z General] cordonbleu:
How do u navigate without the softbuttons?
[Xperia Z General] Ricochet23:
Sony support claimed to release the updates based on the device's SI number - just to spread server load.

If you got a rooted device you can try to change the SI number to 1271-1644 (ro.product.name, ro.semc.version.cust). You might get the update then (at least it worked this way for Xperia E). This info is from another board and i did not try it yet. Use at own risk.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Wouldn't people be better off just flashing one of the available stock roms?
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
That's the customization number, not the SI number (which is different and can only be found on the box of your phone).

Don't use that number on your Xperia Z, as it is for the Xperia E only!

Yesterday, I posted a list of all customization numbers for the Xperia Z. You might want to try with a number from that list. Make sure to use the customization number, not the SI number, memory card number or phone software number!

By changing the customization number, you are able to select the country/region and branding combination of your choice, even if nobody posted an FTF file for that combination. At least if it works, because I didn't try it. You need to be rooted to modify the ro.product.name and ro.semc.version.cust values in /system/build.prop.
[Xperia Z General] ligerblitz:
Hummm...will wait till someone more knowledgeable tries this, im gettin impatient now lol
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Don't wait cause this will change your firmware to another region and if you want to do it so, you can use flashtool.
[Xperia Z General] dante501:
I just updated to 253 but to answer it question u need to install 2 programs one makes the software buttons disappear and one makes makes them dissappear when u touch a certain spot on the screen. It's named LMT launcher and full screen toggle.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150

---------- Post added at 12:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:05 PM ----------

Or easy but not as nice way but doesn't need root is this app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nowto.wtf.softkeys

Donwside on this method is that the keys com back when u play any games because they only hide the keys until u touch the screen where the other method that needs 2 apps and root are much better.
[Xperia Z General] xkc890711:
UK unbranded update still missing! frustrating~~
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
Same with Germany unbranded. Apparently, paying a lot of money to have an unbranded, SIM lock free Sony Xperia phone ensures you to get updates ... last! :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I eventually decided today to just flash the global genetic Rom and it was pretty straight forward. No rooting needed or anything to that effect. Just download and install the flashtool beta 4 and the tft files. Follow the instructions in the guide and you'll be done with it.

I think I'll stick to this global generic Rom. Less bloatware and nothing you can't download from play store if needed.

Coming back to the update, it's an excellent update indeed. The display is much improved as have already been said but you've got to see it to know by just how much.

The camera too holds more detail, not a massive improvement but it's welcome.

The phone feels snappier too. The speed at which it opens and closes folders is staggering!!

All in all, an excellent update. Should definitely silence the critics now. All talk of the Z having a washed out display can be put to rest now.

Very pleased indeed!
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
There isn't such a thing as a "global generic ROM". All ROMs are made for a certain country/region. You can check the customization number in your service menu (dial *#*#7378423#*#*) > 'Service info' > 'Software info' and then look up this number in the list to see which country/region it is.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
My bad. It said global generic. I downloaded it from the how to install stock roms with flash tool guide.

Whatever it is, I'm sticking with it, quicker updates and less bloatware. Win win I think.
[Xperia Z General] ligerblitz:
I couldnt wait...flashed the Global Stock .253 and I am grinning and cannot stop :) Its all pretty!!!!!!
[Xperia Z General] PhilAd:
I was trying to get an answer from Sony support via twitter, but their answers weren't helpfull:

- They ignored that I told them, that my device is german unbranded generic ...

- They ignored the Update FW Version Number that I have given ...

And just answered something like:

It is possible that your branded device with a different version number is the same with the version number of unbranded devices. A newer version number doesn't mean that it is a newer software release relating to different brandings, etc. ...

It is weird that branded devices get their updates earlier. I have never experienced something like that before. The Update .434 was not available or was available very late for Telekom Deutschland (T-Mobile Germany) Customers.
[Xperia Z General] TLLmeister:
Still no update in Germany -.-
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Nor in the UK unbranded O2.
[Xperia Z General] M4cb3th:
No OTA update GER

Still no OTA Update in germany :(

what the ... takes them so long anyway ?

shouldn't the unbranded firmware version be the one thats easier to deploy as its not getting any additional carrier based changes ? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
It's still a update in it's own right, and needs to work in its own region. Maybe it is next, maybe there are issues with it they are not happy with, maybe it's not high priority, either way just because there are no carrier apps and branding doesn't mean it should come first. Samsung Galaxy S2 Branded Jelly Bean updates came first.
[Xperia Z General] wyterabitt:
It can't be released to networks to start their own work until it is already fully complete - no known bugs, no new features to be added etc. If there were any, they would have to redo it and send it out to the networks again, who would have to redo their work and testing.

So the unbranded firmware is completely ready before any carrier firmware has even started to be developed.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Since last year, the delay with UK updates especially generic kits has been measured in weeks not days.

Flashing the global rom really is as simple as simple can be. There's a step by step guide in the general forum.

For me, the thing I miss most of all is the image processing for low light shots. The noise suppression really helped to produce clean images. Things have gotten rather dirtier since the update. Put it this way, if you're someone who just wanted a camera that took great photos to share with others via social networking, emails, texts and you don't need to print out large scale photos, there'll be a part of you that'll miss the old camera. If on the other hand, you're a seasoned photoshopper and like editing and cropping images, you'll be much happier with the new camera. I think it's more a case of the latter grouping shouting loudest and getting Sony to change things in their favour.

Ideally, I think no processing for daylight and good light shots together with some processing for low light pics would've been a happy compromise. I live in hope.

The new colour calibration too bedevils pictures even though it greatly improves the display everywhere else.

All in all, the Z needed this update to above all, make quiet those who've been shouting loudly in rage for the past couple of months.
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Well then it's just not a priority like I said. Plus all Unbranded ROMs are not the same that's why you have people making threads about Missing NFC logos and missing options because they flashed another region's ROM.

In fact when I started flashing phones in the first was Because my phone insurer kept sending me Sony Ericsson's with the wrong Region's firmware, different to the phone I had lost. But 'generic' all the same, I was doing what they were doing in reverse!

I remember when a German Engineer leaked a O2 file for the UK HTC Desire, it took weeks to be released, and was the exact same build when it came out, who knows if it just sat there, O2 UK probably didn't even know when it was coming if the German guys were dealing with it, but this is going off topic you you can see what I mean there are just too many different reasons why it's not out for you to really worry.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Same for ZL germany unbranded
[Xperia Z General] Ricochet23:
Just received the Update for my unbranded german Device after flashing this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2251512

an hour ago. I only flashed it via CWM on locked bootloader, didn't flash the Kernel yet. Might be Coincidence but i doubt it.
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
Over here still no update for my unmodified, unbranded German Xperia Z!

Hello Tokyo? What takes you so long to push the button?? :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] DerHerrStefan:
Then load up the. ftf and you will make a lot of people happy...
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
Would it be possible to post a screenshot of the 'Software info' screen in your service menu (dial *#*#7378423#*#* > 'Service info' > 'Software info')?
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
still nothing in the uk for unbranded..... this is ****
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
As of yet nothing for UK unbranded C6603s. Will the fact I've put an Orange PAYG SIM in it affect the availability of an OTA update?
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
nope it wouldn't work...., cause i got a 3 sim in a unbranded phone and nothing, while 3 branded got the update...:crying::crying:
[Xperia Z General] adamtheluck:
Think he/she means is it causing further delays because they put a different SIM in.

I've tried different Sims and it hasn't pushed anything, I'm pretty sure its because the existing firmware is unbranded and not network specific.
[Xperia Z General] :
Hey guys, when finally the update arrives in the UK, if I want to keep my root (I am on .434 atm), can I just update OTA through the official app?
[Xperia Z General] Sketch85:
It's annoying. I have bad experience with the update policy of Samsung and now also with Sony. First they announced the 4.2.2 update and nothing happens and now this. No update for unbranded devices in Germany at this time. Still waiting. Come on Sony.
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
Thanks. According to your customization number (1270-1412), you are now using the Generic SG (Singapore) ROM, not Generic DE (Germany). That's why you already received the update.
[Xperia Z General] PhilAd:
Sony Germany answered me on twitter:

Sony Xperia DE (@sonyxperiade) hat um 2:13 nachm. on Mi., Mai 22, 2013 getwittert: [MENTION=1223815]philn[/MENTION]4tic Die genannte Firmware befindet sich derzeit im Rollout. Daher sollte sie in 2–3 Wochen für alle freien Geräte verfügbar sein.[CS]

Translated: The named firmware is beeing rolled out and it can take 2 till 3 additional weeks until it becomes available for all unbranded devices.

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[Xperia Z General] Sketch85:
2-3 Weeks? It's a joke!? This means more than 1 month after the rollout for the branded devices!!
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Uh... what?? Please ask them how it takes longer for unbranded devices?!?
[Xperia Z General] PhilAd:
Already told them twice. In my last message answering their last reply.

Dont think that they are going to answer or comment this :(

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[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i think this is a joke :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] down4wotever:
Guys, now it strikes me, could it be that the networks struck a secret deal with Sony to the effect that any updates should be released first to their handsets before the unbranded ones to try and reverse the sales figures? You only have to look for instance at the impressive sales figures distributors of unbranded handsets like Carphonewarhouse in the UK. Just saying...Another thing I find really strange is why unbranded XZs only come with chrome not Sony's browser which isn't the case with network branded devices?
[Xperia Z General] alexp999:
It wouldn't suprise me if unbranded devices will now be the last handsets to get updates after operators kept getting complaints of updates not being released on branded devices at the same time.

So now, none of the operators get any earache as the unbranded handsets are not sporting the update before they have had chance to customise and approve it.

Wrong really as I bought my XZ from Amazon UK, for the very reason of having unbranded, fast updates (as they dont require customisation).
[Xperia Z General] :
I don't think so as I have an O2 branded XZ and still haven't received the update...

Btw, can someone answer me this, please? :)
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
You will lose root and *currently* only the method for unlocked bootloader works to get rood on 253
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Nothing in the USA. I have a unbranded Xperia z C6602
[Xperia Z General] satek:
Flashed the generic Australian Rom for my UK unbranded Z. Plugged it into pc companion and updated straight away. Nfc icon does not show like other rooms.

Everything seems much faster, especially scrolling in things like Facebook, instagram & chrome!

Only other difference I have noticed apart from those previously mentioned, is now my reception bars show 4g instead of lte. Higher speeds are branded as 4g here, so I'm guessing that's why.
[Xperia Z General] fards:
Not exactly true although it does take some steps

You can flash the new 253 update.

Then flash system part of 434 ftf with flashtool .

Root it, install cwm

Flash an update zip of the newer build back over the lot.

Root sticks, full working system based on 253.

Not ideal but better than nothing till a root exploit is found.
[Xperia Z General] DeMichaelis:
Xperia Z generic / unbranded - no news!

XPERIA Z Germany - unbrandet => still no update :(

omg! :confused:
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i feel your pain i'm in the uk:crying::eek:
[Xperia Z General] decentgi:
i think its a case of history repeating itself didnt you guys have the exact same issue with updates with the xperia s why is the uk the only country not getting the updates
[Xperia Z General] _inselaffe_:
Just wanted to confirm this, worked like a charm for me - .253 rooted with locked bootloader...
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
this is my 1st sony phone didn't know updates were so awful :silly:
[Xperia Z General] DeMichaelis:
German Update roll out later this month!

the Sony-Support just told me that the update (for germany - unbranded) will be released no later than the end of this month...

uuhm... waiting waiting...:(
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
so uk unbranded will be released next month lol
[Xperia Z General] decentgi:
the updates are great not much different from any other manufacturer. samsung update from ice cream sandwich to jelly bean really has no difference i updated my dads phone and had to check to make sure it was updated i really see no point in going from one os to another if you cant tell the difference. the updates for the uk are always late its weird we had update for weeks before uk got it
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Only been a week....
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
2 more left :D

Unfair really.....
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i came from using an iphone
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Apple has only one phone ;)
[Xperia Z General] ron3000:
i know but i fell in love with android and the xperia z lmao... i'm a sucker lol:victory: