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[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] maxver0:
You might lock it permanently. Try installing with kdz then this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2221102

Wysyłane z mojego LG-P760 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] clockcycle:
Make sure its connected to wifi/internet, wait 30-60mins..
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TXKSSnapper:
This may be because I'm running Cm10.1, but whenever I try to use a game controller (Moga or PS3/Sixaxis) with my TF300T I have an almost 1 second lag between when I press a button and when the game reacts. Has anyone else noticed this issue? Could it be that I'm using HDMI out at the same time?
[HTC One X+] marck1991:
Hello,

I have tested the app from the playstore "Tegra Overclock" (the app needs root!!!) with my HOX+ and I'm very impressed.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tegraoverclock&hl=de

The micro lags, especially in 2D games, comes from the GPU.

The GPU is locked to the clock of the CPU.

When the CPU has a lower clock, the GPU also has it and that is the reason for the lags.

I tested it with the game "Rayman" and I could eliminate 95% of the lags.

The only thing what i have done is to set the GPU clock with the app in 3D to 520MHZ and in 2D (to the half) to 260 MHZ, so they aren't locked to the CPU clock anymore.

I want to share and to discuss the experiences with the HOX+ between the users with this app to share and to find out the best settings.

Does some one has other configs which are more battery friendly (and are also eliminating lags) ?

I think, that the micro lags in games like Rayman and TempleRun2 and so on are a big disadvantage of the HOX+ and the app helps us in an easy way and without a custom kernel or custom rom to eliminate micro lags.
[HTC One X+] kingofnice:
Which tegra overclock? Could you provide a links?
[HTC One X+] marck1991:
I mean this one:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tegraoverclock&hl=de
[HTC One X+] yokozuna82:
Those settings seem to be working.... Great find
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
if you dont have "force GPU rendering" enabled this isnt the case for 2D
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
What is the best settings for gaming and some battery with this app? Doesn't seem to work for cpu clock. I set max and tegra cap both at 17 and min at 10, hit apply and also check apply on boot. Close the app and open it again and the min and max are both at 17, obviously doesn't save the settings. This is what I've noticed so far with this paid app. I play sushi chop and it runs flawless, zero lag now. Never really lagged before but sometimes choppy, not anymore. I have you settings at gaming normal think its like 328mhz and have 2d settings the same. This setting seems to stick after closing the app and also on boot. I have master boot checked so these should all take effect on boot.
[HTC One X+] marck1991:
I only made the settings i described and my battery consumption seems to be good :) when i want to save battery, i tick the HTC stock energy save mode to max the CPU to 1,3 ghz.

I think that the CPU settings are saved, you will notice it when you try 1,5ghz as max for example.

Only the values in the choose-box doesn't show the actual settings...
[HTC One X+] marck1991:
Maybe some devs with more experiences and knowledge can find out better/best settings for us, because real racing 3 runs on my device with around 15-20fps...maybe we'll get some advice from the pros :)
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
You are probably using ondemand governor! if you wish that settings applied by you remain same then choose interactive or conservative. The problem is not of our app but its due to crippled ondemand governor that takes its own decisions.
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
You're right, I have on demand. I understand the app description in the market place says its newb proof but guess not as I don't even know what on demand, interactive, conservative, etc mean to the end user. I hit legend on each page to learn but on some pages such as this one in the app it can be very vague at best at explaining the options. Guess ill try interactive even though I have no idea the difference between that and conservative.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Guess you are right, never thought actually a person who can root necessarily know these terms. We will surely add some Real world examples to make it simpler to understand :angel:

We will add some homebrewed profiles based on user feedbacks to help new users who knows less in this regards.

For now its best explained as :

Consider your phone Cpu as a hotel and a governor is kind of its manager, obviously if you choose wrong person to manage then you loose earnings. In smartphone regards choosing wrong governor can lead to unbalanced performance/battery(as its equally valuable to money here!).

Now we don't wish to drag you in every governor details for now, just cut the talk and check if changing governors solve your problem and as a piece of advice DO NOT CHOOSE OTHER THAN Interactive, conservative, ondemand.
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
This is good for now, thank you for this. Trying interactive and seems to be working just fine and battery seems to he ok as well.

Rooting now a days or at least this device is amazingly simple as the devs here have made it for us. Literally point and click a few times and ur rooted, lol! Very easy.
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
how to display the fps?
[HTC One X+] marck1991:
Sry, this was only my feeling and not any displayed fps...
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
I set the FPS to the highest the app says which is 60fps. I then ran the citadel benchmark app and got the worst FPS rating ever which was like 42 so not sure :(
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
Update

Just ran Epic Citadal benchmark again on battery save mode using lateset elegancia colored Rom and after using this app and now getting worse ever FPS benchmark of 36! WTF?

I've attached photos of the only changes I've made using this app. I again set min cpu to 96000 while on battery save mode but again as u can see it never saves the settings or at least doesn't display the setting is saved as seeing above in the picture below, has all settings at 1.3ghz and using interactive as instructed and of course hit apply.

What boggles my mind though is I'm noticing games actually working better where they use to be choppy on battery save mode, now not choppy.

Just to use as reference before using this app. Using the Rom I stated I would on average on battery save mode get a benchmark of 47-48fps. Without battery save I would get on average 52-54fps. Now my fps on battery save is around 36 and without battery save is around 41.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
First try to solve the frequencies not sticking with conservative governor now... Second Go to FPS section and enter value 0 and hit apply twice after that reboot(normal reboot not the quick one)! this will reset any settings you made, as your benchmarks shows you are limiting FPS. Now check again and please report. Also you get reduced choppyness because you are still getting FPS in range 30-40 in games.

There is one secret : When you are playing game and getting 50-60 FPS and suddenly a complex scene arrives and lower this to nearly 30FPS this although is above 30 FPS but our eyes can notice the difference (The transistion from say 60 to 35) and hence we feel like something is lagging. When you set the FPS to 45 then this transitions results in lags that are difficult to notice :cool:
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
Ok a little better now. So are you saying that interactive governor is not sticking my frequencies? This is what i had and the app shows different frequencies than what I set when I back out of the cpu option and go back in like I did nothing.

Well I changed governor now to conservative (frequencies still don't stick when u back out of cpu option and go back in) and I changed fps to 0 and apply twice and full reset as instructed.

Good news is that now epic Citadal benchmark brought my fps on battery save mode to 46.8 which is basically what it was before installing ur app so I guess all in all no real change in this regard unless I'm missing something? Thought the whole reason of fps setting is to have constant 60fps if set to this, not fluctuating?

Thank you and really appreciate your help in this. This is all new to me. just trying to take full advantage of this device mainly for gaming as I like to game a lot.

Basically why I bought this device as it was falsely advertised at the time of its release as one of the best gaming devices on the market for mobile. Guess the fine print never said that is not the case for gameloft games (or really any game that isn't tegra optimized which is only a handful at best) and that u can only game for 20min intervals before the battery goes down by 35% and feels like its going to explode from heat! Lol
[HTC One X+] yokozuna82:
The frequencies stick only if you put both the min and max at the same frequency as specified in the legend

*For example see pic*

The frequency when set at 1.7ghz max and min will still fluctuate between 500mhz and 1.7ghz according to the needs of the phone
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Understood. Many people who purchased a phone/tab having Tegra 3 wished to play games.

First we would like to make it very clear that the frequency save problem is not a bug of our app but for some reasons the settings never stick. And it do not require you to have min and max the same! You will lose the battery very quickly..

Second thing is that FPS section is for limiting FPS in everything. For example if you are getting 46 FPS in benchmark then if you limit FPS to 40 then you will get max 40! But reverse is not true as you wished. FPS (Frames Per Second) is dependent on harware capability + Software complexity. A powerful hardware + least complex software produces higher FPS and reverse produces lower FPS.

At the time Tegra 3 was really powerful as no other company had a quad core device + a good GPU. The problem is competing phones were running at 960*540 resolution and Tegra has to run games on 1280*720 Resolution! The math is if you increase the overall pixels the you inturn increase the load too. But all tegra devices comes with this 1280*720 or higher resolution and there it has to work harder and hence the battery is lesser than other competing companies! The other bad thing with Tegra 3 was 40nm Fab technology (won't bore you with this stuff but the less this number is the better) and it was a quad core+ it was using an older architecture while the competitors launched their products later on with better architecture and 28nm Fab and hence thats the end of the Tegra Story :mad:

Battery can be preserved friend if you choose the frequencies and brightness of device smartly. lets say when you are pleased with 40% brightness then why go 100% and if you can run games smoothly at 1Ghz then why 1.7Ghz?

Just apply max and tegra cap at 1.7 if that is your wish and minimum frequency to 51(lowest) the system may show it 500 or so but at times it will get set too.
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
Ok, this all males sense to me what you have explained. Thank you very much in this and looking forward to others using your app here as well so we can all find the optimal settings for our needs with the help of this app.

I'm thinking when I play a game I should set the core setting to use just 1 core instead of having all available?

But I believe when this device is on battery save mode it already does this? Thus making this device for Tue time a single core device if it is only using 1 which should help save battery and not heat up so quickly while gaming?
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
using a single core with high freq needs more battery and generates more heat then multiple cores with lower freq

aside from the CPU GPU coupling the Tegra has another bad design issue compared to eg. snapdragon CPUs

there is only a single clock for all cores which means all cores will always run with the same freq

that's the real problem which leads to too much heat
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
I see, makes sense. Scratch that idea then.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Hello maxwen, First of all we would like to thank you for your dedication towards the Tegra 3 development. The thing that you are talking about that all cores runs at same frequency is bad then think twice! Thats SMP model which is good, just google SMP Tegra 3 (symmetric multi processing Architecture) and you will know why. Second thing that CPU/Gpu coupling has already been broken by our app Tegra Overclock :)

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Yes avoid single core higher clock and use lower clocks and more cores!

Why exactly? The answer lies in the Power formula and voltage rail concept! Won't go in depth but reality is lesser the voltage the better and 860Mhz is the cpu clock in our suggestion that is good enough with 4 cores to handle most games and if higher clocks are essential then not over 1.3 ghz. Anything above this will give performance but will drain battery quickly. Similarly on Gpu side 330 or max 380Mhz else game really lags then only use maximum.
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
just I don't need an app to write 1 or 0 to a file in sysfs to decouple GPU from CPU :)

and actually I havnt rated one arch against the other. For my personal use profile which doesn't contain any gaming I would prefer per CPU clocks

and. you should also mention that decoupling GPU will also disable core voltage decrease. So the core voltage of the GPU will define the global core voltage
[HTC One X+] jizang:
Do you guys think the devs here will be able to fix this Problem
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
and what do you think should be solved here?
[HTC One X+] jizang:
The Problem that all cores are running the same freq. But I am not sure if that is something that we can solve.
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
This is part of the HW design AFAIK
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
Looks like you have to play around with the GPU settings for each game, wish there was a more universal way to go about it though.

Examples of games i play on highest quality settings:

New Dungeon Hunter 4. This game if playing under 520mhz on gpu settings on battery save mode it is choppy. Very clean graphics but choppy, i feel 520mhz setting is prime for this specific game. I tried setting higher than 520mhz but then after hitting Apply my device literally froze. Had to hard reset my device so guess this device cannot have a gpu setting higher than 520mhz unless i'm missing something here?

Into the Dead. For some reason this game if running gpu at 520mhz (was hoping this was the sweet spot for 3d games universal) this game is very choppy. I then changed GPU setting to 416mhz and this game now runs perfectly! Zero lag and no choppy and again this game is on highest graphic setting and running on battery save mode. (I always play games on battery save mode to ensure it won't run the cpu higher than 1.3ghz and also to sqeeze another 10min or so of game time in before this dang device is too hot to hold!).

Just my observations so far on testing this app out on graphics intense games.

Dead Trigger side note. Played this game a little last night with GPU setting at 520mhz and this game played the best it has ever performed. Again this was on battery save mode as well. I was though half asleep last night so would want to further test this game but i was impressed i do remember.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Hmm its perfectly our choice on how we need to handle our device. Secondary its now about how easy its to seperate CPU/GPU but it was to bring into your knowledge that this exists. Secondary thing is that this does not make core voltage dependent on GPU. That is clearly visible when you down clock the Ram to 204Mhz and that automatically undervolt the Core by 100mA as seen in DVFS.

Well I have a different opinion. You might be aware of the related_CPU option in same path from where we change governors and so. This option controls the behaviour of the device. On snapdragon chipset all cores have there Related cpus as "core0 has 0 and core1 has 1 respectively". While the Tegra 3 has" core0 and all other cores as 0 1 2 3" now you get how to impliment SMP(it can be implimented in Snapdragon too:cool:) BUT you cannot change the value of that file! Probably Xmiester can do that for you, you can request him to add that or mod this by yourself. Oh I forgot I do not guarantee anything :p

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I personally haven't played all gmaes but the choppiness is due to temperatures as when temperatures increase the device starts to throttle and reduce cpu frequencies. If you can find a combination that do not make much heat such as 330GPU and 860Mhz cpu 4 cores and if the game plays well on this then you will never run in such issue! other than that can't say as game can have complex scenes and calculations and may lag. Dead trigger is well multi threaded and can run on above settings smoothly and require low cpu and hence will run without lag while the other games you mentioned may be cpu hog and when throttling kicks in they cause lags!
[HTC One X+] maxwen:
BTW: do you really think it is "wise" to change the pll_c rate in your app to "hack" the GPU rate?

pll_c is not only used as parent clock for 3d and 3d2

Using the debug fs for the clocks is actually never advised cause it will create

unwanted side-effects. The correct way of scaling max GPU clock is not possible

with an unchanged kernel

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Since you are so smart why you dont create your own kernel and proove

that it is possible?
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
It seems that you got somewhat offended by my words. Please pardon me if it hurt you. I never intend to give you advice of any kind but you told that you suffer from the SMP architecture and hence I just suggested a way to break it. Why me, I don't want to get into any kernel stuff specially when there are many available and particularly XM Kernel is near perfect! Also I am not the guy who is having problem with SMP as its perfectly fine for me and many gamers. Hmm I know that its not the right way but is harmless so why not :) Also I am aware of that pll_c is parent of many clocks but they don't seem to make any side effect too.. Considering vde, mpe, epp, host1x scales too but that don't make a difference. so till now its good...can't say wise but its just another door for those who don't use custom kernels and suffers from ****ty GPU/CPU coupling..

Once again friend sorry if I offended you in any manner and about the previous post I have a strong feeling that can really break the SMP for ya! and since you are the guy who do kernel stuff it won't take too much to impliment!
[HTC One X+] yokozuna82:
What are the default settings on this app for our hox+ my battery is draining much too fast
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
For both DH4 and Dead Trigger the best settings I've found are to set gpu at 520mhz and 2d to half setting. This plays both games pretty flawless and smooth (about as good as its gonna be on this device). Any gpu setting under 520mhz and u will see game lag. I tried every gpu setting between 330mhz and 520mhz in my testing.

I have cpu cores set to use 4 cores and cpu speeds lowest min and max at 1.5ghz. This is with battery save mode off.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Always remember that you should lower the Gpu clock when you are not gaming and when you are playing games then try to use the minimum on which the game plays as you need, if on lower Gpu frequencies game lags then only you go for higher frequencies. Also try to restrict the Cpu clocks if you are using 520Mhz GPU say to 860Mhz or 1Ghz these frequencies provides auto undervolting and hence helps in saving battery. Try every trick and meanwhile we will workaround for a solution :).
[HTC One X+] Sisnax:
All that fiddling was too much for me so I used a custom ROM (maxwen's AOKP ROM) and that fixes pretty much everything. Android Revolution was smoother but lacks proper Google Now integration.
[HTC One X+] yokozuna82:
So the only way to restore your phone to default from this app is to hard reset?
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
Nope, Just uncheck the master boot control and Reboot :) Easy enough!
[HTC One X+] ac3kill:
Why can we not fix all cores running at same frequency ? Why can't we fix this with a custom kernel
[HTC One X+] nukeman239:
I believe it can be done with a custom kernel like it was done on the One X. All we need is to find a DEV who would do it. The hardest part.:p
[HTC One X+] Lloir:
sure it's your choice, but if one of us goes and does this, and something "breaks" and so on, who gets the blame?

US!

who gets all the abuse?

US!

if you want this so bad, go create your own kernel....
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
I never asked anything to do friend. Its just some people are asking the option because THEY prefer the way snapdragon handles the CPU (Different cores having different frequencies) and not ME. I don't want it and that is why there is no need for any change at least from my side. I know how hard developers work and sometimes even gets there device damaged in doing so. I respect their concerns and their decisions. Also regarding Kernels I feel that there are many good kernels out there and more experienced devs than me in Kernel Development and hence I am not at all required there for any reason. I only told the way that I perceived and if anyone wish to implement that has to take risk! and that person is not me as I am comfortable with the Default.
[HTC One X+] decoy4444:
Got any tips for better battery performance and does this work on emulators.
[HTC One X+] havoklant:
I like to know this too. Since I only use my HOX+ for music and GBA games, I would like the longest battery life.

Speed isn't my priority. Does anyone know the best frequencies and governor for this use?

Thanks!

*I'm coming from a stock rom.
[HTC One X+] Kingshoo:
For emulator games set lowest possible GPU clocks for maximum hours of gameplay. Emulators don't seems to use the GPU pretty much and hence saving power from GPU saves battery without sacrificing Performance (50Mhz on GPU extends the game play duration considerably) :)
[HTC One X+] Moynia:
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Trying it out now, seems to work pretty well. But does it drain the battery any faster than stock?
[HTC One X+] deeznuts:
Of course will be setting specific my friend. You max out settings on this app and obviously will drain battery faster than stock kernal/gpu settings. If you put the min settings on this app then you should in theory get better battery life. See how it works ;).
[HTC One X+] tecno321:
Hello. This app work with stock 4.2.2 rom? How you change the governator in stock rom?

In my hox with powersaving on or powersaving off with (force GPU rendering), the games performance is bad. 4.1.1 has better performance?

no ideia when kernel source will be release for 4.2.2? In custom roms like CM or AOKP has better performance? others kernels I think...
[HTC One X+] gsdude:
Has anyone here been able to improve performance on diii4a (Doom 3 port)? I've done my best to optimize some of the advanced graphics settings in the game itself but still suffers from annoying lag when things get busy on screen...
[HTC One X+] M.Leaf:
I have no experienced lags on game. Like dead trigger 2 on HOX+
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] giophil:
Hello everyone,

don;t know if you guys have any experience with this wonderful little app that lets you crack web keys but for me it was one of the reasons I loved my android phone. Unfortunately, for some reason my brand new shiny sgs4 does not allow me to install it. Yes, I have checked the "allow unknown sources" option but still it does not allow me.

I really want to avoid rooting my phone and lose my 2y warranty just for this so if anyone has a way to bypass the security/overcome this problem, i would greatly appreciate it.

Many thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] giophil:
ANYONE???
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x4sper:
sooo your saying there is an app that cracks networks... hmmm ...nice!
[Samsung Galaxy Tab Plus] scagnetwork:
here the link

http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=14534

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