yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Good suggestions.

- Yes, timedelay will be configuralble. As I remember, now it is 400ms.

- Of course, I planed to integrate predictive input. (With an independent dictionary from MS) This time I don't know, how to make that, but it will be user editeable, or convertable-importable from/to txt or other simply file format. I like to support different languages.

My plan is:

TODO:Most important

- space, backspace, enter

I think backspace will be a horizontal line with the stylus right to left, and space will be a rhumb left to right, like in Letter Recognizer. Or let the rhumbs will be the cursor move keys? And how to implement the enter key?

- Capital letters, numbers, signs

TODO:That I like to develop before other things

- internationale support, first for hungarian keys like: óüöúőűáéí

- copy, cut, paste shortcuts? Like my earlyer project (see my homepage for (only) screenshot)

- options page for customization, (like time delay)

TODO:Other things

- Predictive input

- ...

Thank you for the interest!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] powerppc:
Oh this is cool. I am also interested in this. I've been looking for a one hand SMS, getting tired sms'ing with the stylus. Thanks for the great effort.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] skenliv:
Ive also been looking for the same kind of program. It´s great that you make this effort. Looking forward for future programs. Once it´s done, i will defenetly make a donation to support further versions!!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Urosh:
It is very good!!!

Hi Sallala.

I think that it could be very usefull. It is what I need.

I've tried to use it in the default SMS client and I dont' know why in the field to find the contact you can not write other letters than the first (for example you can not write the letter b, but only a).

In any case I think that you made an eccelent work.

I hope you will go further with this wonderfull piece of software.

Bye,

Uros
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Re: It is very good!!!

Did you mean:

Start to write a new (SMS type) message, in the Inbox application, and you can't type corectly tha "To:" field?

I tried this. This is worked me fine, as in other windows. The delay time, while you switch a->b->c is quite short. Maybe this was the reason to you.

I also tryed the find contact window, and it works.

Did you know? When you press the Contact HW button, and start typeing, you immediatly type to the "find contact" box. To click in it, before typeing is not neccesarry ;-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Question

Question

- How to implement the enter key?

A stroke up->down?

- How to implement the space and the backspace key?

A stroke left->right and right->left?

- How to implemet the cursor move-keys?

Strokes are make conflict with I write above

Let's response fast, I like to program it tonight! :-)

Do remember, I waiting for methods that we can do with one finger without the stylus.

And I think there is no more space for another column of buttons. I think the size of the buttons now exactly good for komfortable typeing.. Or let's try more buttons?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] boybi:
Sallala, can you position the buttons just like that of a regular cell phone? and place the letters according to those of a regular cell phone? this way, it will be easier to switch from cellphone to xda and vice versa. you may follow the interface of WM2003's phone interface. i find it already comfortable dialling with one hand. what do you think?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi Boybi!

Urosh suggest this layout, and I think it's good.

The buttons are enough big to typing one finger, and it's size the same as the other input methods.

The normal GSM phone keboard have four row. That's mean, if I change the layout to your suggestion the panel height will be twice.

Let's take a look for example pocket excel! If the keyboard height is twice, and it is open, you can view only 4-5 rows from the excel sheet, because there is a formatting tab and a satuts bar too in excel.

But of course, typing maybe easyer on a bigger keyboard. And I know, peepole like the conventional methods.

So this is not a wrong idea, but I like to finish this layout first, and after, let's go back here! I think it is not a big work, to transform the layout.

Thank you!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] boybi:
i forgot the software you're developing is an Input Method and not a regular sms software. if this were a regular sms software, then i would strongly suggest to stick with a regular phone's layout.

great work Sallala! hope you could finish it soon! :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Urosh:
Re: It is very good!!!

I've tried it again and it works OK.

I don't know why it didn't work before.

Well done!!!

Uros
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Urosh:
Re: Question

For the cursors is it possible to use the 5 way HW pad? It could be the best solution.

For backspace it could be that you have to press any button for 1 second.

I think also that you can make two more buttons on the right (where now you have three buttons that doesn't work). In this manner you can make the last position (for example the first button abc1) for the numbers. The last two buttons should have also spacebar and other 5 or 6 characters (for example !@? ecc. or what we need most).

What do you think?

Urosh
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Urosh:
I forgot another thing.

It could be better if you implement a sound ("bip") or something like this when you tap. It is better to hear the tapping to know how many times you tap.

bye,

Uros
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Finally I made a CAB install ;-)

Anybody who has a little time, please try it!

It will install the 1.1.0.1 version with English layout. If you use a custom initialisation file, first backup it! The cab install will overwrite \Windows\blimkeys.txt !

Install/upgrade

- copy blimkeys.cab to your pda!

- softreset your device and don't use Blimkeys!

- click on the blimkeys.cab in the file explorer

- blimkeys now installed. You will see "Gabor Salamon Blimkeys" in your "add/remove programs" list.

- You can replace \windows\blimkeys.txt with your desired localized initialisation file

Uninstall

- softreset your device, don't use Blimkeys

- remove blimkeys as other programs with activesync or your pda's control panel application

Please post your experience here or by email!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rolex:
Blimkeys

Ok,

finally your cab. file has just done it for me. It´s up and running.

I've had to hard reset and run a backup to finnaly get it. Thank's for your awnser's.

The only thing needed now is a txt, with portuguese sip.

:lol: :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Re: Blimkeys

Do you mean, you wasn't able to install Blimkeys without a cold-reset? In this case, I think that Blimikeys conflicted one of your application installed. Is this possible?

You can make your own character layout! Open \windows\blimkeys.txt with a text-editor and add the desired character's unicode value to the list.

You can use this tool to resolve the unicode value of a character:

http://sala.sallala.hu/webmester/charcodefinder/charcodefinder.php

Let's try!

If you can't do that, post your portuguese special characters here! And let me tell, the wanted position of the characters on the keyboard.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] StronG01:
What about T9 ?

Is it possible to create support with the file (base) of multilanguage dictionary ?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi!

Earlier, I thinking a lot about T9. Maybe for English it's possible to programm easily. But for other languages, for example Hungarian, which is my language this is a hard job.

There is many affix and ending. it's impossible to make a dictionary with the words with all of they formats in a realistic file size. Must to design a good algorithm. My idea to store the main words, and the possible endings. And store the relation beetween the the endings and the words.

But for this, I must to know the desired languages rules...

If I have time, I will make T9 for english. maybe I can do that. And for the other languages, maybe I make a function like MS word completion, with user-editable or self-learning database that conatin the main words. After I

will try with an intelligent dictionary that fits for all languages.

But what we always have: little time...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
This will be greate

Shalala,

I tsuggest that you copy the exact format of the regular phones (Nokia phone will be much better) so it will be easy for those user that are used to the regular phone to adjust.

You're greate man! keep it up. I'll be trying your work as soon as my XdaIIs arrives (I'm currently using a nokia 6600, your software will be very usefull)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
Skins

It will aslo be nice if it has a skin that the user can customize
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
There is a default GSM style layout attached to Blimkeys. But it contains only the english alphabet. Everybody can add they languages special characters. I can help.

The GSM phones conatins many unneccessarry characters that slows down the input speed. It's better to learn the differences, and use the advantage of the customized keyboard. This is a PDA let's use it! :-)

However if somebody use a GSM phone and a PDA, the exact copy of the keyboard maybe not a bad thing. But the feedback that I read on the internet about Blimkeys is that only [GSMPDA] users like Blimkeys. [GSM]+[PDA] users think it's a bad program.

If you stiil like to see a nokiacopy layout, I can make it!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PinchMe:
wow a nokia layout would be cool..:) great program sallala, :) i am not using it as my default input pad :) but i would like to ask you a question.. how do i edit the gsm-eng layout moving the ".?!", "123", and "ABC" blocks to the far left part..coz i think it would be easier for a right-handed person like me to use this style with one hand only.. also, could you teach me how to add additional characters to the configuration file? thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi PinchMe!

You can't move the board switch buttons in tha actual version of Blimkeys. (".?!" "123" "ABC"). Only you can hide it or change it's width.

It would be easyer to switch beetween the boards if these keys on the left, but we tap the letters more times than the switch buttons. So typeing is easier with the switches on right I think.

But on the next version I will add this function. Let the user can decide.

Additional characters

1. Copy the desired character on your PC to the clipboard. (Select it, and CTRL+C)

2. Go to my homepage: http://sala.sallala.hu/webmester/charcodefinder/charcodefinder.php and paste the character from the clipboard to the "Character to find:" field.

3. (use CTRL+V) Hit the search button

Also you can type the character directli here. (Only one character once.) To place special character, use the "character map" prgoram included the Windows. Start->Programs->accessories->character map

4. You will see some parameters on the result page. What we need is the Unicode value. This is a hexadecimal nuber. (four characters with 0...9 and can contain letters a..f)

5. Paste it to the \windows\blimkeys.txt file on your pda.

You can see blocks like this:

key=0041,0042,0043

This is the unicode value for the letters: A,B,C. For example, if you like to add the character "Á" after the letter "C", change the row like this:

key=0041,0042,0043,00c1

Can you Understand?

To force Blimkeys to re-read the initialisation file, just select letter recognizer or any other input type, and switch back to blimkeys.

If you need help, write here, or send me an email!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] PinchMe:
sure i do understand it now, thanks for your quick reply, Sallala :)

i have managed to create a nokia-based layout :) but i hope in your next version you can add an additional "optional" switch slot where the users can program what to use with it.. with me i would prefer to have "back space" with that programmable switch key..i think it would be great. by the way, how do i know the code for backspace and enter? thanks for your help and support! :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] heretic:
Russian(cyr) + Eng GSM layout request

Hi, Sallala!

I was trying to make a Russian (Cyr) + English GSM layout, but could not figure it out. Would be very greateful if you could make one for me. I'm sure, for you it's just a minute's work.

P.S. Like your software, useful for typing SMS in the car on my Magician, though buttons are too small on a Russian layout, hence the request. :)

Looking forward to your reply. Thanx in advance.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedn:
Hi Gabor, Love your SIP

I have just been mucking around with the color changes to get a look somewhat similar to my dialer. however I can't seem to change the switch key colors

# board switch button's background
# and caption color at normal state
fbutt_bgColor=0x0055596B
fbutt_txtColor=0x00030303

It always stays the default orange color, do you have to change it somewhere else? or am I doin somethin wrong?

thanks

Speedn
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi Heretic!

I attached the config file.

It contains the English and Russian small and capital letters.

The board switch keys are very small because the five board.

You can increase the boards height, just search for the "boardHeight" paramteres!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi Speedn!

I'm happy if you like my program!

Your skin is nice!

I'm just look in the source code, and found the mistake. But my development environment isn't installed on my machine at this time, I cant rebuild the program now.

Haven't got time in this week, and after I go to holyday for a week.

I will upload the corrected file after two weeks ok?

Gábor
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedn:
No worries Mate, and thanks for the reply

Speedn
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] 2 phat:
sallala, ive just downloaded the program, it works great on my IIs!!! good work!!! :lol:
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thomas49:
very nice Programm

But is it possible to adjust the width of the Buttons ?

I use it on my Loox with real VGA and the Buttons are to small.

Kind regards Thomas
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
Suggestion for the next version or update

I'm already using it on my XDAIIs and its workking good.

1. Can the back space be mapped to one of the keys? What would be the map code.

2. I really wantted to create a nokia mapped keys. I hope there is a ready made one that I can download.

3. Suggestion for the next update or version, may be using a jpeg file a a background will be nice. In this way imagination will only be the limit for the users in changing the looks.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Speedn:
Re: Suggestion for the next version or update

Hi, I posted an english GSM layout about 7 posts up, you could give that try to see if it suits your needs.

SpeedN
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
GSM layoout

hi,

yes i have tired it and its now better tht the first. There is now a switch for capital and non capital leters. but for the number after a have punch one number the lay out returns to letter formats.

anyway i'll be exploring the blimpkey.txt and will try to customize for my need.

If it will not be much can you give me a table to interpret the codes there? I alread have vistid you site for the code look up but i prefere a table. also I would like to know the code for back space?

Your software is really great!

Thanks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
My Own blimkeys config

Finnaly I have made my own blimkeys config file, the one i wanted - in Nokia GSM format (because this is where im used too).

I also now know the code for back space which I'll be including in my next modification because rigth now I'm still thinking where to place it.

I like to place the back button in line with the menus in the rigth side but I dont knoow if it is possible
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] greate:
My Own Blimkeys config

It is bigger than the usual because thats how I prefer it ( I have big fingers)

I just really wish that a BMP or JPG file can be use for background, because in that case skin modification will be easier
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] notpj:
great SIP! now I only use two input methods - blimkeys and fitaly.

I use fitaly for rapid stylus typing. blimkeys when i'm too lazy to whip out the stylus. and did anyone say intellipad? i gave up intellipad because i had problems selecting contacts in text messaging. and it is too big. umjison's interface is even worse. blimkeys is nice, neat and small. and customizable. i'm still too lazy to figure out modifying blimkeys.txt :D

here's my real message

some people don't think it's too hard to reprogram their brain and learn a new input interface. all i'm saying is that perhaps it would be a good idea to deviate from the traditional "abc - def - ghi ..." layout and create a more intuitive layout.

to start, the period "." is used really often, so it's only logical to put it in a more accessible place. the letter "E" is the most used letter so it should also be given a more accessible position. the letter pairs "AB", "DE", "HI", "NO" appear often, so these pairs should be found in two consecutive but different keys. stuff like that.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] malko130:
Picture or text for specials keys

Hi,

Very nice SIP but just a little problem with some keys :

is there anyway to have text or a special caracter for "function keys".

IE : I use 0008 0015 to have Backspace and CR keys but it display a square for each. How can i have those keys with a text like "BkSp" ans "Ret." and not a square ?

Thanks

Regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sinsins:
Support for WM5?

Hey Sallala!

Your software is exactly what I've been looking for. It looks great but it didn't work for my Dopod 818 running the new Windows Mobile 5. The installation went fine, but when I try to select Blimkeys to type, nothing happens. I wonder is this a problem for me device or there isn't support for WM5 yet. It'll be great if you can get it to work on WM5!! I'll definitely make donations to you!

sin
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] the_norris:
Hi, been looking for a SIP like this - but like the post above. Does not work on WM5. Installed ok, listed on the SIP menu - but when you select it - nothing happens.

Phil
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] joemanb:
i got this to work on wm5 qtek9100; I installed nullkb, then Blimkeys (there's a clsid conflict between the two), then uninstalled nullkb, then soft reset. could be my device is funky.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Millsey:
Realise i'm resurrecting a really old thread here but does anyone know if the "Square Box" problem has been fixed for the BackSpaces, Carriage Returns etc...

Although it does do the backspace it would be nice to have an icon that represents this...

Cheers

Mike
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Hi Mike!

If there's any news, I post it here. But there isn't :-(

I have not enough time to programming. But this is a plan, to finish Blimkeyes and other PDA related softwares in the summer :-)

Gábor
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
Yes, I must to finally learn, what is CLSID, and not to use that I find in an example program, in the official SDK :-S
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Millsey:
No probs mate, it's a brilliant little program that you've developed and its not a major show stopper anyway... :wink:

I'll keep my eye open for any further updates in the future ... :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Sallala:
:idea: Anybody, who like to receive a notification email, when updates are avaible, write me an email like that:

subject: Registration

text: Please put me to your contact list, and let me inform news about your programs
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farbird:
i tried on my prophet [ asia dopod818] but it does load up the SIP..

anyone had luck installing this on prophet?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farbird:
managed to get it running on my wm5 prophet now..

I have to disable all my today plugins first, then select the blimkey sip method to use, then it will pop up.

afterwhich, i will then have to enable all my today plugins..

Any idea why?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farbird:
Here's my list of Today plugins I currently use.

Didnt have time to try one by one for the blimkeys to work.

LVM Time

Owner Info [ OS ]

Calendar Plus+

Todaysinfo [ mem power meter 3rd party ]

Treo 700w today screen speed dialler

Phone alarm 1.3.1

ptravel alarm [ burroak ]

pRSSreader
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farbird:
update...

disabling phonealarm and treo speedialer just now..

it works..

not sure which one causing the problem..

will experiment to find out which one hogging the memory that blimkey needs to use...

down to 2 possible causes..
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] farbird:
any gestures for upstroke?

ie caps?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] roisagi:
i cannot get it to work on my WM5 QTEk 9100 - any ideas?

(how do i unistall nullkb?)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] clustered:
Cool! Thanks :D
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] arnarn911:
how do you delete a mistyped character? i am using an xda2s wm2003se. thank you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] godvicien:
MagicLatinSIP

Hello.

Very nice tool !

WARNING !

There is a bug, for fonctionning this tool, you must :

- Install it on PocketPC

- Unactivate all your Today-plugins

- Activate Blimkeys in selected keyboard

- Reactivate your Today-plugins

- Reapet this to each SoftReset

This tool offer me the possibility of make the perfect SIP : MagicLatin-SIP

This SIP is optimized for latin languages, based on the most frequency statistique used keys.

Try it ! This offert fastest typing, about 30%-50% fastest...

Need learning the SIP config.

[cause i'm french, i have placed the "é" in the SIP. You can change this by you're accent-language]

There is some littles bugs in the soft :

- the sip show the invisibles characteres like a sqare, ie: BackSpace or NewLine

- the is no realy key that support total compatibility of New!line command, cause the MS standard is CR+LF keys

Enjoy !
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] jambaj0e:
I really like this SIP and waits anxiously for predictive text!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] deyan:
First of all congratulations! I was searching for a keyboard for a long time, and i was prepared to create my own, but then i saw that blimkeys had everything i needed!

I only spotted one thing: I think that switching between the boards has a bug. Sometimes it doesnt switches and the button of the other board i select changes color... I dont know if it is indeed something wrong but... check it out if you can

Keep up the good work!

:edit: you can also add caption, in the config file, in every key so that we can add more letters in one key and appear only those we want on the key. Or even better: skinable keyboard!