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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] moto211:
The seller sent me a new one because of the button issue. It works great. I noticed that the first one only had two pieces of the foam tape to hold the volume buttons in. The replacement had a third piece toward the bottom. Either way, I now have two of them and if I drop and scar one, I'll move the foam pads to the other and use that one.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lcneed:
I actually got better signal than my previous metal bumper. With my old aluminum slider bumper, I could get never do a whispersync on my kindle app at certain location where I read my kindle book. It will always come back with a whispersync failed message after 15 seconds or so. With the new fake draco bumper, I actually got 1 extra bar of signal and does whsipersync perfectly fine.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] distortion:
Anyone have a good link? The one in the OP just links to eBay's main page...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] weysonn:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/38063779630...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Vineares:
Just got my blue one in. First impressions are great! It looks very slick on the phone and slides in really securely. Love the fact it screws in rather than the front sliding plate like my old one. Not noticing ant signal drop but I've never had signal issues with any of my cases.

Sent from my Note 2 with Jellybeer AOSP goodness
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mxl180:
anyone with a grey note 2 and bought the black one? Can you post picture with black bumper attached?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Thedonk13:
http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=261226211202&index=6&nav=SEARCH&nid=81464034303

A bit cheaper on eBay
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] moto211:
That one is actually $5 more.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Deadbolt:
I received my blue one in the mail yesterday (took about 7 days to get it) and put it on my titanium grey Note 2 and it looks and feels great. I did notice a drop in reception but it fluctuates. At times I lose 1 bar and about 4-8 dBm but other times i'm at regular reception as if I didn't have the bumper on. Only gripes is that where the two pieces connect, they're slightly off and tiny chips on the blue part of the bumper.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Edcar445:
Anybody have the blue bumper on a grey note 2? Some pictures would be nice really debating on how it will look :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FloatingFatMan:
These look nice, but are they actually any good at protecting the phone? It's all well and good surrounding it with metal, but unless that metal can absorb impact and protect the phone, it's just a waste of money.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lightdelegate:
I don't know if its a waste of money but i would love to hear some experience of "falling" on the floor etc from people...

and about the non metal, i am not sure if it will "hold" the phone when crush the floor for example ...

also i Wonder about changing battery cause i have extra battery and if i need a "tool" so i can change the battery then i am not sure if its comfortable ...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Malevolence:
any suggestions on which color for a white note?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] GNex_vik:
I ordered silver for my white note 2. gray bumper also goes well with the white phone but I didn't like to add darker color to the bumper. I wanted to keep bumper color as light as possible to match well with my white phone. If you want dual color then go with gray or else plane silver is nice too!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] shenns:
Got mine in. Ordered the gray/silver and also the silver one.

quick review.

pros:

silver/gray looks good on a gray note2.

buttons works well.

cons:

edges feel sharp.

makes phone feel bigger

spen port is very sharp! dont drop the phoen on your face while reading in bed.

camera protrudes past casing!

conclusion. im still iffy about it. Thinking of sanding the spen port down.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ibeintaris:
received mine two days ago, great looking case with good fit, but significantly affects the signal in areas with limited coverage
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] factorycell:
Wanted to love this. But had battery drain and loss of signal. I don't get the battery drain issue, but maybe the signal chip has to work harder to gain signal.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] factorycell:
Update.

I took the case off. Now my battery life is back to normal. Getting over 15 hours so far. Was only getting 11 to 12 hours with the bumper on. I don't get it. The aluminum must mess with the signals , causing the phone to use more battery.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LittleRedDot:
Just curious as to how you planned to get is on your phone without owning a hex key?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] heiNey:
i have plenty of hex keys. there's just not enough torque to turn the screws with the tiny hex key, so i had to get one of the big screwdriver ones so that it would give me leverage.

also, after a few days of use, the case does lower my reception (contrary to what i said when i first got it), which i guess affects my battery life as well. ive had my phone run out of power twice since using the case (never happened before that). sometimes it gets hot too. i still use the case, but those concerned with battery life and heat will probably not want to buy this case.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Kawaisa:
reception is affected but it's so darn nice, I might just live with the issue
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] factorycell:
I love this case, but my battery life went in the ****ter. Doesn't even last 12 hours now.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] zodduska:
Just wanted to say thanks for the link, I went with the grey which matches the "black" note 2 nicely. I ended up carefully sanding all the sharp edges with sandpaper wrapped around a chop stick, it's quite smooth and pleasant now. It bothered me how far the unlock button stuck out so I sanded that down too, now it sticks out just enough to be functional. Might post some pics later.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lightdelegate:
fail ...

ok guys, just got mine:)

i love the design but the back is not higher then the back cover...

that's mean that the camera lens is touching the surface i hung the phone one...

there is no protection at all :(

all the cheapest cases even make the back a bit higher ...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Kawaisa:
I started to place my phone screen down since the front lip elevates the phone, works the same.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] moto211:
Same here.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Kawaisa:
anyone else having GPS issues?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] GNex_vik:
I got my silver bumper yesterday. Fits properly and looks good. So far I haven't experienced any network or gps signal drop. Edges are sharp, will have to sand them. I am looking for some mod to avoid camera lens touching surface.

Overall, not bad at all for the price.

EDIT: GPS unable to lock!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LeadDawg:
I got the silver model and didn't care for the tooling marks from the CNC, so I did a bit of filing and sanding.

A piece of wood cut to size and inserted in place of the phone, worked great for clamping to the workbench.

I ran out of superfine sandpaper and didn't quite get the finish I wanted, but the razor-like edges are way smoother now.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Kawaisa:
I'm about to go 2,000/3,000 grit wet/dry sandpaper on mine

wish me luck
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LeadDawg:
Try "Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish" after you work off the big scratches, the shine will pop right out!
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thumper:
Hi all,

I am developing applications in C# using Visual Studio 2003.

While my need to create some specific applications, it seems some applications seems virtually impossible to develop using C#.

For instance, I cannot create a SIP (soft-input panel) using C#, and I haven't found a way to develop a today plugin using C#. These applications seems only to be developed using C++.

I know C# is a managed code, as opposed to C++ which isn't by default.

Are the differences between C# and C++ applications -- managed vs. unmanaged code -- the reason I cannot develop a today plugin or SIP, or is there a way I can use C# to achieve this?

I'm using C# since it somewhat resembles the Java language I'm familiar with, and learning C++ would take a while.

Any thoughts and help would be much appreciated!

With kind regards
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rudegar:
the syntax is not all that different between java c# and c++ even even ansi c

suppose some difference is what platform you would be programming to

maybe .net which i asume most c# programmers use cant make todayplugins

not sure

you can program .net from c++ aswell if you like or you could program win stk directly or miniMFC

a language is just syntax and speed difference in some cases

how much learning is needed is all about the platform you are developing to
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thumper:
Well, applications created with C# must use the .NET Compact Framework if I understand correctly, and since C# (or .NET) applications require the use of a Common Language Runtime, I can image some applications simply cannot be developed.

BTW, the platform I'm targeting to is my much beloved MDA-II :)

What I'd like to know is, is it possible to create a Today Plugin or a SIP using C#? Or should I switch to C++?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rudegar:
yes i know you mean xda2 but i ment platform as in .net or mfc or pure win stk

not sure if it's possible to make today stuff and other shell stuff from .net

but what i'm trying to say is that you can make .net from c++ aswell and there the difference between c# and c++ are not all that great

if you have to do pure win stk it's a whole other ball game as in how much they are the same

you could ask zendrui the maker of phonezenprofile he's programming in the pure stk and he prob knows if you can assess those today and shell stuff from anywhere else
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thumper:
Ok, thanks for the tip, I will ask him :)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] zendrui:
Sorry but I never looked on the c# as all the applications developped with .net for PocketPC are slower and as I well know c++

So I don't know if it is possible to create a today plugin or access SIP with c# sorry ...

But if you know a little c++ you can get many examples how to create easily a today plugin and for sure access SIP is really really easy with c++ but I suppose that it should be easy to with c# ...
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] drzeller:
Link to SIP in C#

This might help you out. I just googled for "pocketpc sip c#".

http://www.c-sharpcorner.com/Code/2002/May/SIPOnPocketPC.asp

D.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] andyclap:
Hmm that article just gives you information about showing the SIP from your C# app.

I have a feeling, it's going to be easiest to write a SIP in C++, mainly because you're implementing COM interfaces, but also because it's so fiddly and the only examples I've ever seen are in C++.

Best one I've seen is here (also covers today screen items):

http://www.woodslane.com.au/net/titles/samp0735614431.html
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] sumitk:
.NET CF

A more general question. I have just started looking at using C# (I too am a Java developer) and Visual Studio .NET 2003 to develop apps for the Pocket PC. Help & samples in VS.NET are rather sketchy, and info on MSDN websites is very scattered. What are some good resources to get started? Any books recommended? Any good web resources?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] ei99070:
What about MFC?? Can we include MFC on a today plugin DLL?

Because at least CString would sure come handy!! :?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] levenum:
Hello everybody!

I recently went through a learning experience writing a today plug-in and found out there's nothing to it. Basically it’s a dll that needs to export 2 (1 if no options) functions and create a simple window.

You can certainly use MFC, and MSDN has an article on how to create a today plug-in using .NET: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnppcgen/html/TodayScrn.asp

As for sip, that is more complicated, sorry I can't help you there.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] OdeeanRDeathshead:
I tried the c# today pluggin that microsoft made to try and show their language is usefull. It needed two seperate projects, one in vis studio 2003 and one in evc. i got it to work but it was way too complicated. As levenum said, its not that hard in c++. The responsiveness of their example was very slow compared to native ones. The up side was that it created a today item that lets you display data like pie. I did not experiment other than to modify the background colour to see if it worked.

I think the compact framework is a bit too compact. The features don't help enough with device specific programming, but its good for a lot of other stuff like gui's.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] thanh_lam:
Is there any other way to creat today plugin application instead of using C++ and .net host. Is .net 2.0 support it?
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] cptcoconut:
I think this topic is pretty much dead, but the answer is that C# does not support exported DLL functions. Since Today plugins and new SIPs require libraries with exported functions, it's not possible to write either entirely in C#. You have to at least have the C library to export the functions, and that's why the MS article goes about it that way.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] trydis:
This class will show/hide the sip in C#:

public class Sip
{
[System.Runtime.InteropServices.DllImport("coredll.dll")]
private static extern int SipShowIM(SIPStatus i);
private enum SIPStatus
{
SIPF_OFF = 0,
SIPF_ON
};
/// <summary>
/// Show the SIP.
/// </summary>
public static void Show()
{
SipShowIM(SIPStatus.SIPF_ON);
}
/// <summary>
/// Hide the SIP.
/// </summary>
public static void Hide()
{
SipShowIM(SIPStatus.SIPF_OFF);
}
}
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SyCoREAPER:
Correct me if I am wrong, but bootstrap is installed to internal but the custom rom is flashed to the internal-sd.

Why can Bootstap not be written so that it creates a partition somewhere on the root of the internal memory, say /bootstrap, and have said folder act as the root for the desired Rom?

Safestrap, I've done searches and the only thing I found is: Its a program limitation. Why does it only do 3gb partitions and again, why can it not be done on the internal memory of the phone?

I'd like every bit of the internal-sd to be available for installation for apps, not because I need it, but so I have the option. Especially for programs like CoPilot Live which download the full map data.
[Nexus 7 General] DarkDvr:
DISCLAIMER: This is my personal experience, it may not be the same for you, YMMV and all that.

Well, short story is that I got fed up with my Nexus 7 having performance of my ancient Win Mobile smart phones. It got to a point where no matter what ROM I ran, be it stock 4.2.1, 4.2.2 or custom Roms from XDA, my Nexus would struggle with even simple tasks.

Examples:

closing tab in chrome - 2-3 seconds

Rotating a screen (nova launched home, only 1 page total) - 3-6 seconds

Launching NFS (game) - 3-6 seconds before I'd see the loading screen, would load for about 15-20 seconds. In game fps would dip to what felt like around 25-30 fps.

Battery dying at 10-15% (tried everything, including disassembly).

After trying everything I decided to ditch the 4.2+ and go back to how it was when I bought it. Reason being that I remember sudden increase in overall system lag when Google released 4.2.

So, here I am running 4.1.2, so far on my second day of use. Here's what I see:

Chrome - much more responsive, tabs client immediately, pages redraws quicker on scroll.

Rotating screen - 1, maximum 2 seconds.

Launching NFS - immediate, loads for about 5-7 seconds. Game interface way more fluid and responsive. Game runs at what feels like fluid 60 fps most of the time, with many cars on screen dips to, I'd say, around 40 fps.

Battery is now at 5%, not shutting down, which is good news to me.

Obviously, things like performance can be very subjective, but overall I do see huge improvement in performance.

Maybe it will work for other people as well who are as annoyed by 4.2.2 sluggishness as I was.
[Nexus 7 General] bftb0:
Did you reinstall 4.1.2 from scratch - including fastboot erasure/formatting of file systems suggested by the factory install instructions?

I'm wondering if you would see essentially the same performance if you now reinstall 4.2.2 using exactly the same procedure. (Obviously, you might want to make a full Nandroid backup of the 4.1.2 install so you could nuke 4.2.2 and restore back to 4.1.2 easily).

For instance, if the performance issues were related to filesystem corruption or just simply buildup of app "cruft" over time, or a misbehaving app due to some fault condition happening sometime after the original 4.2.x ota upgrade. (Kinda like re-installing the same version of Windows always seems to speed it up, LOL)

I guess the point is that the most likely root-cause of "lag" is something to do with flash memory (filesystem) I/O as it is the slowest operation in the device. A fair comparison would be fresh install vs. fresh install.

cheers
[Nexus 7 General] prestige777:
Try using Clemsons Elite 1500 Extreme Kernel and Cookies and Cream if you can find them, they blow away any 4.2 Kernel/Rom combo and its not even close.
[Nexus 7 General] :
I agree with darkdvr with games being laggy on the 4.2.2. Playing nova 3 stutters a lot.not too pleased with it.the battery drain is also pretty crazy compared to what they say the battery should last with certain usages.I'm also going to downgrade to 4.1.2 to see the difference.hopefully it works and plays better than this 4.2.2. I also think that rooting has something to do with a lot of lag. When stock its smooth and fluent opposed to after rooting. You get pauses and stutters.gonna give it a go tonight
[Nexus 7 General] DarkDvr:
I never delete fastboot, but I formatted sdcard/system, and all caches. I holy doubt that this case is that "build up" that we are all familiar with on Windows, since 4.2.2 was laggy for me right away, as soon as apps are installed and launcher configured - nexus immediately becomes a slow ass lag sloth. It was always rather terrible for me, although I am hyper sensitive to lags and delays on any system. I know most people aren't that anal about it.

Interestingly enough, I restored almost all my apps with titanium, including their data, s I can say that its not the apps, its the system. Using android since 2.1, I can safely say that 4.2.2 is the laggiest and most messed up release since, probably, eclair. They really dropped the ball here. I hope 4.3 will be QAed more thoroughly.
[Nexus 7 General] hotsync100:
I'm interested. Could you post the steps to do the downgrade?
[Nexus 7 General] DarkDvr:
It's really easy with the Nexus 7 toolkit - get it HERE (dev forum).

Basically, I backed up user apps with Titanium Backup and copied the backup to my PC.

Launched the toolkit, created nandroid backup of 4.2.2 ROM (option 4 in the Toolkit AFAIR).

Booted into the recovery, formatted everything (sdcard, system, all caches).

From recovery booted into fastboot mode (all volume buttons + power button).

With toolkit, downloaded and installed 4.1.2 factory ROM and installed it onto Nexus.

For some reason first one didnt boot for me (stuck at nexus X), so I cleared cache/system data, redownloaded it and flashed it again. Thankfully, Toolkit guides you through the steps.

Then, an optional step, I used a hack apk from xda to prevent nexus from checking for ROM OTA updates. Now I'm at 4.1.2 and my Nexus is finally back to its original snappiness.
[Nexus 7 General] Skyfall007:
is it possible to run 4.1.2 with 4.2.2 bootloader?
[Nexus 7 General] DarkDvr:
I highly doubt it, and it would ruin your experiment "cleanliness", I'd say.
[Nexus 7 General] GedBlake:
I recently attempted to downgrade to 4.1.2, to see what all the fuss is about... but without flashing the bootloader. My attempt didn't get very far...

checking product...
OKAY [ 0.031s]
checking version-bootloader...
FAILED

Device version-bootloader is '4.18'.
Update requires '3.41'.

finished. total time: 0.250s
Press any key to exit...

I'm loathe to unnecessarily flash the bootloader (unless absolutely required to do so). So I abandoned my attempt...

----

All I can say is 4.1.2 must be pretty damned fast, because I've never had any problems with 4.2.2.

I have noticed though (and this could just be the 'placebo' effect), that wiping CACHE and DALVIK CACHE does seem to make for a marginally more smoother experience.

LagFix (fstrim) Free

is also widely reported as fixing lag issues in 4.2.2... although I can't say I've noticed much difference after running it.

But then, as I say, 4.2.2 (custom ROM - see sig) runs liquid smooth for me anyway.

Rgrds,

Ged.
[Nexus 7 General] why always me:
If you wanna try manual method here is step by step guide to downgrade from 4.2.2 to 4.1.2 using fastboot.

Following instruction in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1907796 except for

1.Download the Nexus 7 4.1.2 factory image from the link instead of 4.2.2 .

2.On Flashing the Factory Image step.

Change following line

fastboot flash bootloader

and

fastboot -w update

to match the name of 4.1.2 factory image instead of 4.2.2 for example

change from

fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-grouper-4.18.img TO fastboot flash bootloader bootloader-grouper-3.41.img

and

fastboot -w update image-nakasi-jdq39.zip TO fastboot -w update image-nakasi-jzo54k.zip

:)
[Nexus 7 General] dwxvi:
Downgraded for a bit, and did not particularly enjoy 4.1.2, and I wound up going back to 4.2.2 after completely wiping the system and accidentally having to re-update my recovery. I've noticed my battery life has finally gone back to the way it used to be when I first got my N7, and the performance seems better to me when I play Voxel Rush (only game I really play on here). I believe my problems with 4.2.2 earlier were indeed caused by a lot of crud built up from flashing previous ROMs and kernels over time.
[Nexus 7 General] DarkDvr:
4.2.2 after flashing seems to be somewhat on par with 4.1.2, but please report back to us in several days, I bet it will slow down to a crawl.
[Nexus 7 General] Westervoort:
Another easy way to downgrade would be to install cyanogenmod 10.0.0. Also, please don't start downgrading your bootloader. It shouldn't be necessary for flashing stock 4.1.2 and it might complicate things if you want to flash custom kernels in the future.
[Nexus 7 General] gc84245:
For what it's worth, I'm running 4.2.2 with no noticeable lag. I just bought it used so I did a factory reset just before updating. Maybe that has something to do with it?
[Nexus 7 General] -_Alex_-:
Hm. I have none of the problems you had on 4.2.2. I'm running 4.2.2 and it's pretty snappy.

Rotating the screen takes about 1-2 seconds.

Closing tabs in Chrome is instantaneous.

Apps launch quickly.

Battery holds out to about 3% before I plug it in.

Hm. Maybe you had a lot of apps installed? I have quite a few but not as much as some people
[Nexus 7 General] gc84245:
Do you guys have multiple user accounts? I've been playing around with it a bit, and maybe it's just me but I feel it's a bit slower when you have more than on user. Anyone else noticed this? I did a quick Google search and seems others have noticed it too.
[Nexus 7 General] demolition23:
My battery life also sucks,I want to try this.

Which way did you downgrade?
[Nexus 7 General] dwxvi:
You won't have to downgrade to do this, you would just have to back up your data (the important stuff) and completely wipe your internal storage so that everything is cleaned up and ready for a re-install of 4.2.2. Then you can re-load your data. I would reccommend using Wugfresh's Nexus Toolkit for this.
[Nexus 7 General] demolition23:
I just did that, and will post results when I have a clear picture.