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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] tampa03cobra:
Ohh ok I must have somehow missed that one. I appreciate it. The reason I moved to airnote was I was unable to get wifi tethering working on the stock rom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] sidliu:
on rooted Note 3 lollipop. Any way to make tether works?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] lovenet:
Wifi hotspot and usb tethering not working in attach device using in India

Please give me step by step, at&t and not rooted. Indian sim working fine.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Ryanmp:
First of all, let me say that I really like the S4. I sold my iPhone 5 and be able to buy it at full price when it was released. I like the size, it's just about perfect size for me, fits well in my hand. The air gestures and air views are pretty nice, they come in handy. Coming from an iPhone, having a replaceable battery is priceless, I liked being able to swap out my low battery with a full charged one.

My first S4 broke while in my pocket on 5/6, I wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary, was just doing things around the house, when I pulled it from my pocket there was a crack from the upper right corner down the middle of the left side. The AMOLED display under the glass is what broke, device was unusable, nothing showed on the screen except some colors on top left above the crack.

After fighting with AT&T and Asurion the entire next day, AT&T agreed to give me an early upgrade. So I bought a new one on 5/7.

I received my new S4 on 5/10, then this morning, 5/15, while at work I was squatted down, texting, and dropped it from around knee level on carpet with padding over concrete and it cracked the AMOLED display, this time in the upper right corner, with 4 cracks from the side to about an inch into the display.

This S4 had a Spigen Ultra Thin Air case on it, as well as Spigen's Glas.t Slim screen protector.

I don't expect manufacturers to make phones that are indestructible, but this seems ridiculous to me.

I was a long time Apple user before I bought the S4, I don't think I will ever go back, but I'm regretting going with Samsung now. I've spent over $900 between both devices and now they are both in the mail (as well as almost $200 in accessories that are worthless now), for Samsung to evaluate, so for the next two weeks I'm stuck with using an old S2 that likes to reboot every 15 minutes.

I've read a few posts on here about people breaking the screen under the glass like I did. So I'd be careful if you own one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
That sucks dude. But hey, a little advice...fix that S2! If it's rebooting like that, there's something wrong. There are several super-stable Jelly Bean roms available for flashing these days. I come from that world, so I know it like the back of my hand...PM me if you'd like me to help you make your S2 awesome. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jetlitheone:
Before anyone says this isnt a necessary thread, I think it is.

Having a 32GB and having spent money on my device and screen protector and cases I'd like to know this too, so I would love to hear from anyone else that has broken their device easily
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Damn that sucks OP. I think you have bad luck with the S4, I remember when you mentioned the S4 screen cracking while it was in your pocket. I would get another phone if I were you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Felixpau86:
I have a really hard time "feeling sorry" for people who drop and break their phones and complain.

I don't know what kind of response (pity?) that you want from people.

Drop the iphone 4 in just the right spot and it'll crack too. Every phone is the same more or less.

Don't want a broken phone? Don't drop it. You break it that way, the fault is no ones but yourself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
That's kinda of an ignorant comment, the OP had his screen cracked and it was just in his pocket so no drop at all. The second time it was a drop but it is his experience and I understand it especially when you purchase a device this expensive twice. Don't be rude man.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Felixpau86:
His story for breaking in his pocket was "while around the house". So whats to say he didn't accidentally smash it again something while doing housework or anything else like a table?

Dropping your phone - what do you expect? Go buy a Nokia if you plan on dropping it. Even then im sure drop proof isn't part of any phone's warranty.

Pretty straight forward. You may not like my "tone" but you can't honestly count it against the phone if you're not keeping it safe. The error is human in this case. Own up to it and take better care of your phone.

I've cracked iphones and android screens and bodies before, it was probably my fault in handling it; but you definitely won't see me running to a forum and complaining about the manufacturer having shoddy quality when it was clearly human error.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I'm starting to wonder if maybe it's the Chinese models in specific breaking like that because I have seen multiple S4's dropped now WITHOUT ANY CASE from 6 feet and survive with only scrapes to the actual frame and here you have a case AND a glass screen protector, and it falls from half the height and suffers catastrophically.

Has to be something more going on here. Reviews will also show the phone can survive falls just like any other premium metal phone and then some, so quite an odd case here :confused:

ALSO to everyone else, stop hating on the OP. Yea I have to agree it's just really vague to say your phone was just up and broken, but I'm willing to look at it as the OP is telling the truth cause at worst, even if he is lying, it really don't matter.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kallell:
No offense OP, but I'm going to call bull**** here. You have to be leaving out something -- even if it's by accident. I've had smartphones with larger screens for 5+ years now, and not once have i cracked or broken a phone. The last phone that broke was the first nokia clamshell that came out -- and that was after i dropped it from standing on to a concrete floor. Even then it worked still, the plastic just cracked a bit.

There is no way you broke your phone just having it in your pocket -- unless you were wearing super tight hipster jeans with your keys in your pocket. Futhermore, dropping your phone 2 feet on to a padded floor, won't just break your phone either....it just wont.

I've dropped my s3/s4 many times on to my wood floor now without any issues (without a case).

Also, wouldn't your phone be under the 14 day return policy anyway? If anything happens in those 14 days, you get a new one?

Overall, this just doesn't make sense. I think you are omitting some key details here; these phones ARE NOT that fragile.

EDIT-- How did you figure $900 dollars between two phones plus $200 in accessories?

A new line/renewal should be about $200-250 per phone; cases run $30-35, USBs 5-10, screen protector 7-15....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RiNo808:
You should have gotten insurance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Ryanmp:
I'm not asking for anything, I'm just putting this info out here.

In my experience, the S4 is easily broken.

And it's not glass that broke in both of mine, it was the display under the glass, the device was not usuable after. The glass was pristine on both, for that matter the both phones were as well, just the display cracked.

You can do what you want with the info, I'm just letting people know what happened with my 2 devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] btrigsby:
When you keep you phone in your pocket, make sure you always keep the screen against your leg. I broke my first Galaxy S2 with the screen out in my pocket when I leaned against a table.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sonny21:
I am shocked that the 2nd time with having a GLAS.t tempered glass that it broke.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
You spend this kind of money on phone...treat it like your car....GENTLE. I have had a smartphone for years and not even 1 scratch on any phone I have ever owned. It is like your girlfriend or wife...Gently...:):):)

Very expensive way to learn.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
Let's be realistic. It's no secret this phone is easily broken. And tbh, when you say something like "it's all your fault because you dropped it is a bit ridiculous. I've dropped my gs2 more times than I can count, face down, from up high, sliding across concrete etc, and the screen is still fine, but the build quality on the gs4 is seriously lacking. I'm scared to even buy one after hearing all these stories. For now I'm sticking to my gs2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
How can you say the build quality is lacking if you don't even have one?

Just to be safe, think of it this way, if you drop it, it WILL crack. Of course, it might not but if you think it will every time, maybe a little more precaution will be taken. It doesn't matter if it was a mistake...just don't drop it. Any phone that is mostly screen will always have a certain level of fragility and should always be treated that way. It doesn't mean the build quality is bad.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stl-soldier:
Or like telling your wife about your girlfriend... handle it very carefully... like your life depends on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lincolnw:
Samsung does extensive hard use testing on its handsets so I wonder if this was a bad batch or something. Thanks for sharing your experience. Hopefully we don't see a bunch of these threads popping up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hotdog32836:
Ya my S4 broke too, dropped mine 2 or 3 feet in a case and the screen shattered, build quality is not there imo

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blue00mountain:
well... i was just thinking about investing in a good case.. but now, i think i will buy insurance instead.. or maybe just sell it off.. really cant afford to loose an expensive phone like this.

thanks for the info.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] htcslic:
I haven't had a problem out of my build quality. My son has dropped it at least three times on real hardwood floors. All I have is a Zagg shield and S View case. Granted he is only three feet tall, the drops weren't very far but still held my breath everytime I picked it up. I do have GSP from BestBuy so precaution is not very high on my list. Paid out right for it. Just hope it doesn't break before bootloader unlock comes out so I can make an official backup..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] elementlaxer:
I don't have any comments on the fragility of this phone, as I have a screen protector and otter box defender on it since I want to protect something I paid good money for and I'm a student so I'm sure some dumb stuff is likely to happen with my phone but the s2 is about as durable as they come. My s2 has a gazillion chips and nicks and scratched in the plastic from tons of drops with no case, and has only developed a couple of scratches in the screen in the last 6 months that I had with no screen protector on it. I'm not expecting this phone to be that awesome with the screen being so huge, but I have high hopes for this phone lasting the life of my contract. My s2 did, and could have honestly kept on kicking aside from little things that were starting to act finicky.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] etham3:
The Ultra Thin Air Case by SGP is hardly a case built to withstand impacts. Don't expect your phones to always walk away unscathed if you don't have a proper case to protect it in. Get the slim armor case or any other TPU case if you are clumsy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] burhanistan:
The S4 is kind of fragile and it's a valid issue to discuss. I wouldn't dare toss this thing around the way I did my iPhone 5. Let's not blame the users for not holding it right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hfxzack:
You should learn to buy a case.. and not drop your phone... little alone bi*ch about the way you mistreated it and call it a bad experience. :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
Don't be an ass. Accidents happen, and he did have a case on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
I dropped it the other night gettin out of my car, it was sitting on my lap so it went flying out of the car, did a few cartwheels, but only dinged the bezel a little bit, everything is good on my side.

No case or screen protector
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ko300zx:
This. I still feel bad for the guy but come on. The guy ran into something or banged it on something. If you're clumsy and can't hold your phone when texting or run into stuff while doing housework, just put the phone in a safe spot until you can sit down and use it without the risk of breaking it. Even if you're not clumsy and these were just a series of unfortunate events, there's still no reason you can't put your $700 phone down while doing some housework just to eliminate the chance of that happening.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] americasteam:
Reading through this thread has reminded me of how many jerks we have here at XDA. In no way was the Op asking for a handout. He's just telling his story. What does he have to gain by lying? Think about it.

Just wait until you drop your phone and your wife, husband, grandma, grandpa, friend, teacher, mom, dad, brother, sister, or random stranger makes fun of you for breaking it. Would also be a pity if you couldn't afford a new device. It's bound to happen to all of us at some point.

Just to add, I also own an S4 which will be sold in the coming weeks.

Sorry Op for your bad luck. It really sucks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Its cause most of these nerds get walked on by everyone daily.

That guy prolly greets people at Walmart.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] freemeech:
put an otterbox on it...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Felixpau86:
That's whats wrong with this generation of morons. Always blaming other people (companies in this case) for your own damn fault.

If you cant read between the lines and see he wants some pity points then its your damn problem. If he wanted to just find out if the phone had issues with quality or just his, he could've just made a poll like the other post about cracking screens, instead of pointing out he broke it twice - one of which he DROPPED and the other of which was pretty vague of a story about "just being around the house".

It's funny also how you point out I probably work at Walmart greeting people... so lets say I am, so what? (not that I am but lets just say I was). So what does it have to do with the fact I'm pointing out the OP wants to lay blame for his own faults? Please enlighten me how the fact if I were to work at Walmart greeting, stocking shelves or being a cashier, it would make me a "grumpy old man" or "nerd/geek with rage issues"? Its a pretty dumb assumption and statement you made.

So to sum it up: Own up to your own problems and issues. If you dropped the phone and cracked, its your fault. If you ran into something in your house and cracked the bezel or screen, its your fault. If you don't take care of your property and you so happen to break anything, crack anything, ITS YOUR FAULT. Not the company that made it. There's nothing that protects your phone from stupidity and clumsiness.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Captpt:
Sorry OP, that really sucks... I also damaged my Galaxy S3 2 weeks ago when I bumped into a counter in my house (it was in my pocket too) I didn't slam into the counter but must have hit it just right causing the LED to start to bleed, after 2 weeks it grew worse until it died.. Luckily I was due for a upgrade and went with the Galaxy S4 and actually ordered the same case&screen protector as you (metal slate), I had a similar case from Spigen for my old Galaxy S2 and dropped it many times without any damage and the reason I decided to go back to that case but apparently the larger screen makes it more prone to damage.. Honestly I could never go back to a iPhone but I guess I better be more careful with the S4, it is the best phone I've ever seen and owned for sure but it's your $$ and happiness with your smartphone over all else.. Good luck and hope it works out for you..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] datrumole:
cracked the side of the screen from about a 6 inch drop from taking it out of my pocket to it landing on a stone wall, was done in the first 14 days of ownership so it was covered by BB, it's been over a week now and it's still hasnt shipped, but i did learn my lesson on these big phones (having come from a gs2) that perhaps i need to go back to using a screen protector. ordered a tech21 screen protector, contemplating the case as well. but just seems like all it takes is the right fall for these suckers to break, i barely/rarely drop my phone, ive been living 'phone naked' for a few years now without a single issue scratch or crack
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Youre like a foot tall?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] datrumole:
haha, was sitting on the stone wall at the time
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I hate it that all of you have had problems, but does it really need to be taught that wood, stone, concrete, etc...and glass does not mix?

I bought a dozen eggs the other day. I should have checked them at the store, but I did not. I got them home and started to cook with them. I opened the carton and noticed one of them was cracked. This was not my fault and I have a right to be pissed about it. I started cooking with the rest and accidentally dropped another one of them on the counter, it cracked also. Guess what, this one WAS my fault and I have no one to blame for it but myself. Do you see the difference?

Drop an egg and there is a good chance it will crack. Drop glass and there is a good chance it will crack.

So the lesson here is to make sure you put a good case on your egg so it doesn't crack.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] murrowxda:
You're not alone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=41488383
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] burhanistan:
So, granted, people should exercise care with $700 devices. But still, it's a phone, not an egg. The aspies here are missing the point about bad design, and injecting far too much spite about blaming the users. I could hurl my Blackberry or iPhone without worrying about damaging the screen. It seems a step backwards to have to worry about treating a phone with kid gloves all the time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
Your missing the whole point. Who's fault it is is irrelevant. If you your choosing between two phones with similar specs and one phone will consistently survive hard drops, and the other's glass breaks nearly every time it takes a tumble, I'm choosing the tougher phone.

We are humans you know. We occasionally drop things. Unless of course your perfect like you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] h3lluvaninjuhneer:
I'm pretty sure you'll be ridiculed for the above, as it seems common sense is not tolerated around here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrmercedes:
I call BS on the OP! I guess the Apple Gods were mad at you for switching.....:rolleyes:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Yep mistakes do happen and they are still your fault. And, if you had a chance to choose, why did you choose a phone that didn't survive a drop as well as the other phone...and then complain because it didn't survive a drop as well as the phone you didn't choose??????

That's like choosing between a green and a red phone and choosing the red phone. And then complaining because the phone is red?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] burhanistan:
Eh, your analogy is not valid. It's more like buying a high end phone and expecting a reasonable degree of durability based on previous experience.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
I don't have the phone. I still have a gs2 which has survived some good awful tumbles

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I can't for the life of me understand why your so angry that someone dropped their phone, then shared their story. If you don't like the post, stop reading it

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I consider durability as a feature. Therefore discussing such durability seems like a reasonably thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
This can be settled very easy. You show me one official place where Samsung or AT&T has guaranteed that this phone will survive a drop (from any level) without sustaining damage and you will be right. Just show me ONE place where that guarantee is made. That's all you have to do. And your argument about "expecting" is invalid because everybody brings their own set of expectations that are always based on opinion and not fact. Because you (or anyone else) thinks this phone should take the same abuse as another phone does not make it fact! It is merely what YOU think. Reasonable people do not pretend that guarantees are made that have not been made. Reasonable people realize that their opinion or what they think is just that...only their opinion.

So, go ahead and show me the official guarantee... or, at least confirm that you are only basing your thoughts on your opinion and nothing else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
You are under the impression that I actually care about weather or not I convince you....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] akira02rex:
There's several drop tests on youtube showing the gs4 surviving falls without the screen shattering. It seems it shatters most of the time when it hits face down though. Maybe you shouldn't own this device, plain and simple.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
Maybe there should be a "pocket test" rofl.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
In other words, you can't find the proof anywhere and it is just your uninformed opinion.

Enjoy your soon to be cracked and / or bricked S4...you cool guy you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
There doesn't have to be proof. You obviously don't get it. I don't expect at&t or Samsung to replace a phone that I broke, I never said that. I don't expect that every phone will be break proof. All I'm saying is the gs4 has poor build quality especially when compared to previous models like the gs2 and compared to its closest competitor, the htc one. And because of this, I will most likely a) but the htc one when my upgrade date rolls around or b) buy a different phone if one comes out that proves to be of good quality

That's it. The only expectation I have is that I expect I will choose wisely, because it doesn't matter how many features a phone has if its broken and unusable

So stop acting like some internet tough guy, cause I really funny give a **** what you think
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
If you don't give a blank what he thinks, then why did you post your story of "omg I broken the screen on my phone " in a public internet forum?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
Umm I didn't. I don't even own the phone try again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
Why are you trolling the S4 forum. You said you don't own the phone and you said you don't want the phone (based on your own opinion of it's build quality), so why are you even here?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] artvandalay22222:
Because st the beginning of this thread I was still undecided, but thanks for the concern

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Sorry to the OP, didn't mean to hijack your thread
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] americasteam:
Honestly, this thread should be closed. Nothing but arguing and bickering and it's not going to get any better. This should be a lesson to all that want to post anything the least bit negative about a device in it's own forum. You'll be flamed to no end.

I bet the Op took a hammer to it while it was in his own pocket. He had to because my favorite device couldn't be more fragile than any other on the market. In fact, the S4 is the toughest smart phone ever made. Discussion over.