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[Galaxy S 4 General] Aerys:
Its 4.2.2 :silly: and you were able to convert Galaxy nexus yakju(xw,ux) to Google yakju or takju and get updated direct from Google -.-
[Galaxy S 4 General] oldblue910:
Yes but you won't have that option with the S4 if it runs a Samsung ROM. It'd either be a Samsung stock ROM or a Samsung Touchwiz ROM. Neither is very appealing to me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] lets_zock:
At the I/O they said, it will be getting updates DIRECTLY from google.
[Galaxy S 4 General] oldblue910:
I can't find anywhere in the keynote where those words were said. All they said was "prompt system updates".
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mithrandir007:
Just so know, I don't buy a lot of games, just these 4 "demanding" games and a few other smaller games.

Also, you're basing your whole thing on Asphalt 7 (which I don't even have), but there are a lot of games that take 1.5 to 3 GB now, you don't have to buy all the latest games to end up with 4 "demanding" games.

And they're only going to take more space as time passes (with 1080p screens and better CPU/GPU, there will be bigger textures which take a lot of space).

Your example of FHD video is also a bit weird, since we're not talking about putting videos on the internal memory.

He just gave examples that are similar in the way that the SD card can already be quickly filled up by many things (pictures, videos, music, ...), and 9GB for apps/games/navigation is not often enough.
[Galaxy S 4 General] stinky73:
Apparently not! I have just ceased to exist in France, this post is just a figment of your imagination :D

Seems weird that not even the whole of the US market is catered for by this product release. Can't really see Google wanting to alienate the rest of the world by such a limited availability both for all possible users in your neck of the woods and for all the other continents. I believe the I/O announcement said something along the lines that it would be initially released in USA....

At least we have better wine and food over here otherwise I think I would feel really inferior :eek:

Here's hoping for a more "world friendly" product release sometime in the future,

My greetings to you all
[Galaxy S 4 General] -A-P-M-:
Galaxy S4 Google Edition apparently spotted at the Bluetooth SIG: i9505G: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-s4-google-edition-gt-i9505g-spotted-bluetooth-sig-215132/
[Galaxy S 4 General] kendellrt:
I'm sorry, but I didn't feel like reading through all 24 pages of this thread. Any word on this ROM becoming available for current S4s?
[Galaxy S 4 General] beaver2233:
did you even bother looking?
[Galaxy S 4 General] kendellrt:
Yes I did. But after 15 pages with no answer I decided to ask.
[Galaxy S 4 General] beaver2233:
i meant in the 'development' sections where roms are generally found...
[Galaxy S 4 General] kendellrt:
For some reason I thought this was that section after I did a search, sorry. I have looked there and find things people have made to be similar, but nothing official. HTC One is getting something soon.
[Galaxy S 4 General] beaver2233:
No worries there's an android 4.3 leak as well as 4.2.2 roms made from a system dump and i9505g kernel sources such as this one here, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2341794
[Galaxy S 4 General] kendellrt:
Thanks. Good info. I'm running the I337,though.
[Galaxy S 4 General] beaver2233:
ah righto, probably best to head over to that part of the forums then...think this is for the 1337, http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2341376
[Galaxy S 4 General] Toss3:
Unless you have the i9500 version I don't see why this would be depressing. AOSP By google means devs will have the sources needed to build a perfect CM 10.1 & AOKP rom.
[Galaxy S 4 General] android_master:
Ha Ha.. thank god i waited..

With all crapware/crapwiz removed and stock android,latest updates This is the phone of the year
[Galaxy S 4 General] Toss3:
Everything I've ever wanted from an Android device. So happy. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] paddylaz:
would it be that hard for them to make this available as a firmware-esque update for existing s4 users?

Haha, oh wait, no they want you to buy the whole handset.
[Galaxy S 4 General] LegendM:
It's damn expensive
[Galaxy S 4 General] Soul Assassin:
I really do hope they do the I9500 as well.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jaaystott:
Do you think they will release this for existing Galaxy S4 users that already have the 600 Model?
[Galaxy S 4 General] samb222:
Will I be able to flash the stock/nexus software onto my current S4? Can't wait!
[Galaxy S 4 General] veleno401:
I want this fu***ng firmware!
[Galaxy S 4 General] cashyftw:
I'm pretty sure you'll be able to flash this on a device with the same processor.. Someone just needs to get the device lol

Sent from my GT-N7105
[Galaxy S 4 General] Terrorantula:
GS4 owners are happy then, be able to easily get the latest stock Android versions now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] paddylaz:
Willing to bet they're going to go for the double-decker cripple and not allow current gs4 owners in on it.

It's going to be a buy-the-handset-for-the-feature scenario.

(I hope I'm wrong).
[Galaxy S 4 General] @xDeepS:
I think so too... but this is XDA >:)

Sucks its not for i9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
No confirmation of AOSP support yet. Just stock Android. There is a difference (see the I/O Tab 10.1 - stock Android but not AOSP.)

If it's Snapdragon, AOSP support will be nice but not critical thanks to CAF. If it's Exynos, AOSP support will be a gamechanger.
[Galaxy S 4 General] climo:
So glad I waited :good:

Would it be safe to say it would contain all the S4 features such as sensors, dual shot mode, eraser and the rest but with pure android? If so ...count me in also!! :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] paddylaz:
I know it can probably be modded/hacked etc once it's in the wild..............but was it TOO much to ask for some bloody mercy and just let current gs4 users access to this in an above-board and official capacity?

I mean, how can it hurt them.......its not like current GS4 users (well I'm not going to anyway) are going to drop their handsets and get an identical one because it's running on stock a. ARGGRHRGHHGHRGHRGHRHGHRGHRGHRHGHRGHRGHRGHRHHRGHRHGRHHRGHGRHG.

Time for a cup of tea I think.

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Lucky bastard.

Must get Cher's 'if i could turn back time' from looping in my head.

Kill me now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
Why pay extra money, on xda I can do it for free :D

sent from: The New S-Pen :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] jj03:
Did somebody say this is for the usa only? If so, thats ****in stupid...i want this version of the device...
[Galaxy S 4 General] 3473:
No, it'll just be a normal galaxy s4, running a stock android rom

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You're on XDA...get a normal s4 and flash the rom
[Galaxy S 4 General] chalid:
Good news for all i9505 owners. It really doesn't matter if they make it available officially for us or not. Having the source code available will be enough for XDA-dev :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] lavafire:
Now S4 users could choose stock android (latest version) or touchwiz (more features). Come on Devs, make it happen!!! :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 General] paddylaz:
is there anything you can think of that 'they' might do to try and cripple any such endeavours?

(sorry, I'm an amateur in these things)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jeshter2000:
Korea has Exynos with LTE boys.. So they did not mention the Processor so everything is possible.....

Sent from my Octaaaa! GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] roflc0p:
Exynos 5 or Snapdragon 600.... TBA
[Galaxy S 4 General] jj03:
I am well aware of where i am :) regardless, as a nurse i just don`t have the time to piss about with my devices as much as use too..so i`d rather buy straight off...
[Galaxy S 4 General] chalid:
They could use different hardware for the Google-S4, but I think that would be too impractical and cost-inefficient.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's a link to the introduction at I/O...

http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s4-google/4505-6452_7-35761621.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] big_b0sss:
has it been confirmed that the device will be sold internationally or just for us market?
[Galaxy S 4 General] keithokane:
Great news :D !!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
This is almost sure it will be the S600. It will be nice to have Samsung features, like air view (I'm sure it will have it as the screen is capable), air scroll (due to the ir sensor near the proximity sensor). I don't think they will dump those sensors or that Samsung will remove them.

Hope we (the I9505 owners) will be able to flash it in case we get bored of Touchwiz
[Galaxy S 4 General] sav_uk:
So glad I haven't upgraded from my Nexus 4 yet. Want the Google Galaxy S4 so bad I hope it makes it to the UK!
[Galaxy S 4 General] sntaylor87:
As with many others I hope it's the quad core version to make a porting easier, though I do like Samsung's notification panels and prefer them to the nexus style......hope it can just be modified :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] cirian75:
me too :good::confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] big_b0sss:
it doesn't really make sense to me if Samsung uses the same hardware for google edition of gs4 all the fancy sensors will be useless on google edition of gs4 becauae on pure android os there is no use of smart stay, scroll, pause and air view :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] shure2:
It's not fancy sensors, they're all software gimmicks
[Galaxy S 4 General] avetny:
nooo way man. No way :eek: !

Wow this is siick step from Sams !
[Galaxy S 4 General] @xDeepS:
Those GIMMICKS are actually useful. Like multiwindow. Youre telling me you dont think AOSP should have multiwindow?
[Galaxy S 4 General] djsaad1:
i can't believe I am saying this, but after playing with my wifes s4. I would rather have touchwiz over aosp right now. I am going to miss PA, but some of the touchwiz apps and gimmicks are very usefull to me, that and touchwiz fixes a lot of the bluetooth issues with jelly bean.
[Galaxy S 4 General] muhamet:
I love Google :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] blueseeker:
Europe. Please?
[Galaxy S 4 General] 3473:
Now I don't know which to keep. I have both the i9505 and i9500. Strangely development seems to be far more active on the i9500, though I'm fairly certain the nexus s4 will be snapdragon based
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nephilim-Giant:
Good lord. Where the hell is the 32gb? Aside form AT&T, where is this mystery unicorn 32gb?

Samsung giving us 16 gb, for god sake let us get the 32gb ASAP. Fail just fail. :mad:
[Galaxy S 4 General] penfold:
so this would be the snapdragon quad-core version, it would only make sense that they would remove some of the extra sensors included in the touchwiz version as they would just be useless on the google version ....meaning the google version should be cheaper than the touchwiz version ...which it is not ....and after playing with the snapdragon 9505 version, it's going to take a phone a lot better than that to pry my S3 away

....if the google version was $550 it would make sense, but at that price you may as well get a nexus 4 for half the price
[Galaxy S 4 General] muhamet:
All Europe haw i9505 snapdragon lte yep aosp suport :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] pack21:
Wait for what? If you get now the i9505 u will have the Nexus S4. :D

Sam's factories will now produce massively i9505 version and inject TWZ fw for retailers and AOSP for google ..... will not be a third different hardware.

We only need xda development for porting.

Now we know, i9505 is the phone of the year, line u said. :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] muhamet:
What name will haw Saops??:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] qsacage:
Dual boot anyone? :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] shure2:
Nothing was said about multi window, that is one feature that I'd love to see android introduce into aosp. The majority of the rest is mainstream gimmicks
[Galaxy S 4 General] berfles:
Seriously. I'm getting tired of this garbage.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
All the sensors will be there so developers can learn how to interact with them. I am better we see all those sensors on the next nexus and all of Samsung's features done up in 3rd party apps soon.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Galaxy S 4 General] Fatos:
Just read in a news paper wabpage in Norway. It will be s600.

http://touch.vg.no/article.php?artid=10110096
[Galaxy S 4 General] samb222:
Would it be possible to dualboot touchwiz and pure android? :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] jambongo:
Based on google's history of making all their nexus devices pentapand and if it works on T-Mobile and AT&T does that mean it'll be pentaband HSPA I.e like the T-Mobile S4 variant minus bloat/carrier customizations?
[Galaxy S 4 General] soraxd:
I would expect full LTE and HSPA band support, T Mobile and AT&T already use many of the same bands, so it won't be too difficult.

also projects like AOSP ports will have to find something new to fill their time with lol, I expect porting galaxy s4 rom to galaxy s4 should prove to be.. easy? lmao

IT'S CLEAR SKIES AHEAD CAPTIN! SET SAIL
[Galaxy S 4 General] montbazon:
No one know..

Korean ver SGS4 have LTE and OCTA core

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
read this last night.

feels like christmas time and its only may.

1 month to wait !!! very exited
[Galaxy S 4 General] harel013:
can you help me to understand... if i got the int version (I9500) so i wont be able to enjoy this on my device?

i wont get clean rom of google and wont enjoy from the latet's update? like I9505 owners??
[Galaxy S 4 General] pack21:
Don't count on it, exynos drives are closed source, qualcomm is open needed for AOSP easy development....and exynos octa production is slowly.

Nexus S4 will comes out from i9505 line production.

Takes this as a fact. Sorry.
[Galaxy S 4 General] xManMythLegend:
650 for 16gb and no TW features is a definite pass. Good for community though.
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
I'm waiting to see what will happen with features like multi-view, air view and how would accessories such as the S-View cover work on AOSP? The other thing is I could just get a regular S4 and then flash the stock build on it whenever I want since it will be fairly easy to do then.
[Galaxy S 4 General] qnet:
I can't be positve because we haven't seen the phone yet, but I doubt any of those features will work. I have a S4 already and was planning on selling it, but if a stock build of Android will be out, I may hang on to it and flash it. It would be cool to have the Google version but I wish they added more onboard storage for $650.00
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
Your right they wont work right off the back. What this will do is give developers a starting ground for all the new sensors Google has put into the next Nexus.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Blomkungen:
You guys do realise that is what everyone else in the world pays for ut unsubsidised.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BennyJr:
It's not a fact until Google says so. The nexus 10 has a samsung exynos chip, who says this won't have one.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
Paid $816 AUD (which was almost at parity with the USD at the time) for my S4

Love watching other countries complain about their phone prices, makes me giggle inside
[Galaxy S 4 General] qnet:
Yeah, I realize that. In fact I buy most of my phones outright and like it better that way. I guess my point is you can buy an unlocked HTC One for this same price with more onboard storage. I realize you can add more to the S4 but, it still seems like a lot.

I guess we all got spoiled from the Nexus 4 being so cheap. What I was hoping for was a 32GB version of the Nexus 4.

I'll probably still end up getting the Google S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bhags8:
Of course there is no mention of Verizon getting this. Verizon is awful. If only I didn't have unlimited data I could switch.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rkaede:
samsung is smart. Google even smarter. so they use GS4 as a milestone to the next Nexus. anyway this will make GS4 so called the nexus with SDCard.

strangely i dont find any exact information of this GS4 google edition. wondering if it based 9500 or 9505.

but 16GB shud be enough if they put the ROM properly. My GS1 running AOSP ROM have arr 12GB for storage avail.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
You have to understand that with CDMA It is not a simple thing as the biggest part of a phone (the Phone programming) is closed sourced. Unlike GSM where it is open. You cant put out an AOSP based phone with closed sourced phone programing.

You know I was thinking the same thing with google. Since samsung whats to get as many people attached to their brand before they change over to Tizen that they were willing to allow this and Google was like why not. Give our developers a head start
[Galaxy S 4 General] deathnotice01:
I'm sure the next nexus will be a derivative of the S4 with gesture and air view like features,

and since google hasn't got any other partner who runs these extra sensors then samsung sounds like the perfect fish to catch.

I think it will be a snapdragon (since they announced LTE in I/O) and also has better open sources and better community support,

Whatever that nexus s4 contains devs here can easily cherry pick the sources and port it to either the 9500 or 9505 variants
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
Ok first it is not a Nexus. It is the S4GE lol Notice how they made a point of not calling it a Nexus and only said it would have a Nexus "like" Experince? Second the S4 is the only phone with these sensors for the moment. Dont expect that to last more then 4 months. Soon every phone will have these sensors. They have been working on them for a while now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
It may not be called a nexus but it is all the benefits of a nexus without any of the downfalls. You get "fast boot OEM unlock" as well as stock android updates directly from Google. Plus you get top notch hardware as well, something which can't be said about current nexus devices.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
I cant agree with this. I have had every Galaxy that came out minus the 4. As well as some HTC devices along the way and I have to admit I have not had a better device then my N4 since my HD2. Only thing I would change about it is more internal storage. Thats about it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rkaede:
so where the news about new LG nexus ? :P turns out google choose samsung for this time. also no news about x phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
No the Nexus is always released in the fall. Around the holiday time. We will have to wait and see if a new nexus does come out.
[Galaxy S 4 General] chenxiaolong:
The hardware is probably going to be the SGH-M919. Google wouldn't advertise T-Mobile support if it didn't support the AWS bands. Otherwise, users would be stuck with 2G/EVDO in areas that haven't been refarmed for 1900 MHz yet.

I highly doubt that it will be based on the i9500. As far as I know, no Exynos-based variant supports AWS.
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
Our usage may vary but when I speak of hardware I'm talking about the whole hardware experience. The S4 has a top notch camera, screen, processor, removable battery and card slot. Unfortunately no nexus device has been able to provide all of those aspects.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
The camera I have no real use for outside the 8mp. The SD card is not big for me. I have a 32 gb one from my S3 that was always almost empty. The screen was good. No nexus will have the SD card slot as google doesn't want it and I can live with that.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
Yeah I guess it depends on your usage but then there is other things like the DAC that are important to me as well. This S4 with stock android was exactly what I was hoping for.
[Galaxy S 4 General] martindesu:
I am rather confused as to what device I want to succeed this ageing GNexus now :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Terrorantula:
Should try the 808 and then try to go back to 8mp........ even 13MP looks rough. However the sensor size of 1.12 over the 1.32 in the GS4 also helps.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BIGSx420:
I'd honestly be rocking a Gnex still if it had a better camera. That phone was amazing.
[Galaxy S 4 General] WitchMX:
Totally agree. I just changed my GNexus for the Octa S4, but the GNexus still performs pretty damn good.

Now going back to topic, I hope there's a way to port this to the i9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
I am sure it will be done but like the other Exynos devices before it will be behind and have more bugs compared to the qualcom version
[Galaxy S 4 General] inffy:
I think the S4 Google Edition will be the Qualcomm based device (i9505), so porting to i9500/Exynos will be pain in the ass for sure...maybe doable but hard.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
Oh your right as there is no way Samsung would allow the octocore version to be released by google with AOSP
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
I'm contemplating just buying a regular s600 S4 and then just flashing the stock android build and basically converting it to a nexus. Unless the Google version is exynos buy that's highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jodvova:
Totally agree.
[Galaxy S 4 General] borchgrevink:
Will it support Miracast?
[Galaxy S 4 General] tuxonhtc:
Couldn't disagree more, at least on Note II. And personally, for me, using AOSP on Note II seems kinda pointless. Don't use stock touchwiz, but touchwiz based ROMs, obviously.

That said, great to see that there's a choice for people who prefer stock android experience :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] hoss_n2:
The reason for the high price is to protect their product, if google s4 is cheap every one will

Buy it then change its rom with touchwiz rom so he now got s4 +touch wiz with half price, this will make Samsung lose money so they priced the google s4 that high
[Galaxy S 4 General] xman_here:
Google has announced last night that the Google Edition Samsung Galaxy S4 will go on sale on June 26th. This is cool stuff. Will attract millions of Nexus lovers.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
It's not, there is already a fully working Cyanogen Mod rom on the I9505, the I9500 has nothing of the sort so far.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Aerys:
I wonder how we gonna flash the GE rom on our I9505:confused:

Odin 3?:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Toss3:
Some people think that having a lot of custom stock roms == development. The i9500 has more custom kernels at this point(if you don't count the US variants), but now that people know that an AOSP rom is coming, I think we'll have people flocking to these forums pretty soon.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mithrandir007:
Well, if the hardware is the same, they're not gonna have a choice, devs will port roms to the current devices :)

The only way to cripple that would be to change the hardware, but this doesn't seem likely.

In Belgium, the 16GB version of the i9505 S4 costs 699€, which is $900 US or $912 AUD...

Do you mind if I re-use your sentence? "Love watching other countries complain about their phone prices, makes me giggle inside" :D

Good thing I found a i9500 version for 574€ with free shipping from Hong Kong just recently.. made me decide not to wait for the 32GB version and just use Folder Mount instead :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
It has nothing to do with Samsung allowing the Exynos with AOSP or not, however it's going to be the Snapdragon revision, simply because there is no Samsung baseband at this time that handles the AWS bands which they could pair to the Exynos 5410, same reason the I9500 was never LTE enabled, because the current LTE baseband from samsung does not handle Band 7 (2600Mhz) used across the EU, in fact the only LTE compatible basebands they have for it currently handle bands 1, 3, 5 and 8, those bands are used in the SHV-e300, there is an hidden menu in the device to select unsupported bands but obviously these will not work still.