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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DaveinAsia:
Nope

My past experience with my GNex would not lead me to try another Samsung for quite awhile. The build quality of the GNex and what I've seen of the S3 pale in comparison to the N4. The user experience in holding the S3 didn't justify its premium price. Granted I haven't held an S4 in my hand, but from what I've read about its similar build quality, I wouldn't want to spend that amount of money for a phone I will ultimately use with some form of custom ROM/kernal. I might, if it were the much nicer HTC One, but I'm generally happy with my N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LoVeRice:
I will if samsung release a golden active and nexus edition!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raymondyipsp:
No way... I only love nexus with pure stock rom.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Solutions Etcetera:
+1 Everything I have owned from Samsung (four devices) have had problems. And the company's customer service is quite possibly the worst I have ever encountered.

I am still enjoying my Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It feels like an S3, Note, Note 2, or any other Samsung device. Cheap.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lowrider262:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

truth.:beer:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] obtained:
I keep telling myself i'm going to get it, but I love my n4. 650 is kind of steep, but considering most new phones are around the same price, it is a very normal price. Sure the n4 is a lot cheaper, it doesnt have to be, but it is. So I thank Google for a reasonably priced phone. I'll probably hold off until something new is released. Ive been waiting for a new tablet and I'm sure a fantastic new tablet is about to be released soon. I'm building a new computer, purchasing 1 part at a time, so thinking about getting a the Google S4 and a new tablet would definitely slow my computer build down. Oooooh I need to win the lottery. :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goku80:
i have already bought ten devices...one for each family member....i threw away my nexus 4 on the wall due to it being cheap and horrible....the s4 pure stock is pure awesome:D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernandezhjr:
I got a dozen on order already. Lol.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big samm:
I would... Only if it was available in Canada...

Oh well im sticking with my N4

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] I Am Marino:
Must be nice to have so much money sitting around.

-Sent from Marino's Nexus 4-
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trajan19:
Rumors of a HTC one nexus, I'd buy that, phone is gorgeous.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
the same rumor says "at the end of summer" , might as well then wait for the next nexus :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
I'll only consider the "Pure Google" S4 if it actually runs a Google ROM. I don't think it will. I think it'll be a Samsung stock Android ROM, which would put it in the same class as the Sprint Galaxy Nexus, and all the GSM Galaxy Nexus phones in the world running yakjuxx firmware variants. Samsung takes forever (sometimes months) to update those yakjuxx variants, so I'd have no reason to believe an S4 ROM would be any different.

Keep in mind, at the keynote all they said was that it would receive "prompt system updates". That sounds intentionally vague to me. Even the Sprint and yakjuxx Galaxy Nexus ROMs get "prompt" updates if you benchmark them against any non-Nexus phone on the market.

So, until I see a build number on a screenshot, I'll remain very skeptical. If the build number is a standard 5- or 6-character ID like "JWR23" or "JWR23B" then I'll consider it. If I see "JWR23B.M919UCSKME2" or something like that, count me out. If the ROM isn't built by Google, it's a waste of time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiestuff:
He said "promptly with every android platform update" That's a bit more specific and sounds promising but I understand your fear. He also said it would get the same google experience as the nexus and it's "google's take" on android. Let's hope more details are released when it comes out.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
Oh we'll know instantly if it's a Google ROM or a Samsung ROM as soon as the phone is released. It takes 3 seconds to determine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omf05:
I returned my S4 it has to many issues. I had got a nexus 4 back in Dec 2012 and had returned it because it didn't have LTE, but just bought a new one 16gb version for 300 yesterday. (Good Deal)

If you root at the moment you will not be able to watch videos that have black scenes because they will show reddish in low brightness. If you keep it stock its fine. Most people on XDA tmobile acted like that wasn't an issues. For 600+ dollar the screen better work how it should I'm not going to lose 600+ on a device that can display color properly.

TouchWiz was laggy even when I had custom roms like CM and Wicked the phone was still laggy.

Camara was laggy.

Speaker crackle at high volume on some songs.

Hopefully the Google S4 doesn't have there issues, but I think they will still be there.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
That sucks that you had all those problems. In the end, though, everything you mentioned falls under "risks you take being an early adopter". I think it's a boat we've all been in at least once.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Trajan19:
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/23/htc-one-google-edition-coming-soon/
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
Looks the same too. They need to ditch those buttons and do what the nexus did.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goku80:
All I will say is this. I really do hope we do not see the Google edition flagship phones like the galaxy's and the HTC's of this world. Why you ask? Cause Nexus phones are unique. And I want to keep it that way. Plus I don't think this is the end of the nexus phones as I think Google wants to keep the brand going. So really hoping for big things coming up in the following months

Sent from my Joker RootBox N4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
I really dont see this happening As the nexus line will not have this big issue

"Like the special “Google Edition” Galaxy S4, timely updates will be promised alongside the “stock” Android user experience on this HTC One. One source believes that in exchange for early access to upcoming Android code, “Google Edition” OEMs like HTC and Samsung will be subject to certain deadlines for preparing updates for their vanilla Android handsets."

Which means that the OEM will still be issuing the updates for these devices and not Google. But we will have to wait and see
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goku80:
hope you are right my friend...cause since buying the N4 to be honest only android phone i will get from now will be a Nexus based phone cause this is what android is all about...but how can they keep up with updates for there skins and plus now with the vanilla based updates is beyond me.....does that not give more to the notion of fragmentation? will it not be hard to keep up now? but hey who knows different divisions for the different handsets i think
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zelendel:
Oh it will lead to more fragmentation indeed. But all the OEM have to say is "if you want the extra features/gimmics of our software you will have ever to wait. With the GE versions all they will have to do is add the drivers and build the kernel and lib files.

Let's hope. As I love my nexus 4 and will not get anything short of a full nexus from here on out.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Goku80:
Well said and i am in the same boat...Let us see how things will go
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] najariner:
Not Worth It

The modern specs are very cool but not good enough to make me give up the sexy design and build on the N4. The price isn't helping either tho :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arpit85:
What about a stock HTC One @ $599 ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alangrig:
Wouldn't buy:

1. Amoled screen that degrade severely within short period time

2. Camera has drop frame in 1080p mode

3. Capacitive and Physical button, thus phone is bulky and multitasking is very inconvenient.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
Have you ever held a GS4 in your hand without a case on it? It is anything but bulky.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rasengan82:
I would if I had the money. You cannot deny the s4 and the One are much better hardware wise. My wife has the S4 and it's not bulky at all.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
S4 size ~= S3 size, and tbh the s3 was more comfortable in a jeans front pocket than my currently nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alangrig:
Well if S4 gonna have incorporated Andreno 320 then there is no benefit, cause screen is bigger.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ejpenha:
Here in Brazil S4 has our LTE / 4G frequencys, so this the only reason for me.

Nexus 4 doesnt have 2500 or 2600 frequencys to enable using those tricks ..

:(

Well, here we have the GT 9505, I believe that it will be possible to flash the S4 google's ROM.

HTC One looks like very nice, but not enough to make me spend 599 "Obamas" on it.

Any way, happy with N4 ...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] csantiviago:
Nah, better wait for Moto X.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
The moto x should arrive a month or 2 at max before the next nexus. Enough reason to not be an early adopter.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sirslope:
No one can deny it's good to have another option, especially for those who've experienced high failure rates with the Nexus 4's hardware and are tired of sending in RMAs. Why not pay a little more for a little less hassle and inconvenience? (Not to mention, habitually sending in your phone for replacement doesn't inspire confidence that it will last long beyond the warranty.)

Other nice features: removable battery, expandable storage, and capacitative buttons. On-screen navigation buttons in particular are a hideous waste of screen real estate and should not exist.

(To those worried that it will tarnish the coveted Nexus branding or break the integer sequence of the Nexus line, stop acting like iSheep.)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Life Engineer:
Agree!

One of the main things I hate about the N4 are the screen buttons! It's ridiculous! In a times when everyone is competing for bigger screens, you see nexus selling you a 4.7 (or 4.8") screen with around 4.4" left for your usage! Like my 2 years old S2!!!

I had to minimize them to minimum in daily use (I couldn't get used to PIE) and remove them completely while playing a game or something!

Yes removable battery, expandable storage, and capacitative buttons would be awesome if available in the nexus 5! I just LOVE pure android and hate anything else!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omaga:
My answer to the thread question is, No. I waiting for the HTC One pure google versio:p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -sandro-:
yes/no I bought the classic s4 with snapdragon waiting to flash stock android to turn it into the google edition :eek::eek:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] F4M0U569:
kcuƒ s4!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zcucurullo:
1) If you don't care about the money, go fir it. It makes no sense to buy another pure android device that's not a nexus, Why would I spend 650.00 on a device that will do the almost the same stuff as a 350.00 nexus.

2) If you can't live without the removable battery and SD card external storage, well be my guest (I used to care before getting a nexus, but not anymore). People buy HTC's, Motorola's and Samsung phones for the extra perks, you know the launcher, the voice, the camera extras, the widgets, and so.

Getting one of those phone as a (nexus like) device is a waste of money. But that's my opinion, some will agree an others wont.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oldblue910:
I absolutely agree with you. I was just taking him to task for calling the GS4 bulky. Love it or hate it, the GS4 is many things. Bulky, however, isn't one of them.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alangrig:
Have you ever used Samsung Galaxy line flagship? I had 6 RMA for Galaxy S2 and 7 RMA for Galaxy S3. Samsung quality control is real headache. Same problems gonna be with S4, mostly due to AMOLED screen technology and camera module drop frame issue. I won't list in details those issues here, you can easily google for them.

On-screen navigation buttons are up to everyone's taste, but in terms of technology progress it's best implementation at this moment. My 2 cents: Hardware buttons has been outdated technology for 5 year already. These buttons are inconvenient in many situations: capturing movie you can easily grab phone with one palm, but with hardware buttons it's very inconvenient, especially those capacitive buttons, which might be hit unintentionally or by mistake. Multitasking is real headache with hardware buttons. You have to hold hardware button till list appears, and after hard multitasking you finger turns blue, while on Nexus it's just fabulous experience.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Maddmatt:
This sounds like rubbish to me. What kind of silly reasons are you returning them for?

I work in a store that sells them. At a very rough estimate, we get maybe 1 return out of 200 sales for the Galaxy S3.

Had a couple of S2s returned, they don't fare quite as well as the S3, but would still not put the return rate above 1%.

I work in an online store and I process all the sales, and all the warranty returns, so I don't judge this using my personal phones. Samsung's quality control is among the best.

HTC and Huawei are at the bottom. Just selling one makes me nervous that it will come back with faults :o

Only sold a handful of Nexus 4's so can't really judge them. None have been returned yet. Saw the shop get a faulty one back though (weird issue with the system clock falling behind by 25 minutes a day or something).

Love my Nexus 4 though.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] d4c:
Are you one of those people who hears his phone creak or has a bit of cracking in the ear piece and decides to send it back? If it is, you really need to get a grip...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowcore:
Spoken like a true fanboy. In trying to reconfirm your N4 love, you also have to defend design decisions that are counter intuitive like the onscreen soft keys. Yeah, on screen soft keys, one of the reasons I would never buy a N4 or Sony device, Wasting display estate for somebuttons. Leave that thing for some time and you will have some nice screen burn aswell.

I find it funny how people justify dumb things such as on screen soft keys with "Progress". Really...

As for S4, and One Google editions. I think they are not worth it. Getting a standard edition, cheaper and then rooting it is so much more intelligent and better for ones pocket.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
Then why you in the nexus 4 forums, he's right about Samsung too

"would?"

Nexus 4 tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
screen burn, a typical issue with amoled displays. last time i checked the nexus 4 used an IPS panel.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowcore:
Because this thread was about if people are interested in an S4 google edition. I would be interested if the google edition version was cheaper.

...and I enjoy countering bad arguments from nexus fanboys.

Screen burn happens with all LCD and OLED devices. Its just the OLED screens are far more likely to have that sort of problem.

In case you need pictures, just google screen burn in images and you will see alot of LCD displays also having screen burns.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ismethajametovic:
The pure S4 won't be cheaper because Samsung invests millions into marketing/advertising so that they people will spend a pretty penny on it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] norazi:
the screen alone is worth getting the GS4 over the N4 for me if they were the same price.. but since the N4 is about $200 cheaper i will stick with it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -sandro-:
to be honest i have both screen res and I don't see all that difference on those small screens.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xasthe:
The expandable SD card is really the only thing about the S4 that I wish was in the N4. I'd like to listen to locally store music since I don't want to risk data overages streaming music while I'm away from home.

Not worth the price difference.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadowcore:
True. You can look into what people say about pixel density. Raymond Soniera(Google about him) says that at least a PPI of 477 would be needed in order to have the adequate display. At below 12 inches, the range I hold my phone, you can see individual pixels if you concentrate enough.

That said, at above 12 inch distance, a display of around 350 PPI would be enough. So a FULL HD screen is definitely a buying augment for the One or S4.

The reason why I think that the Google Edition S4 should be cheaper is because it does not have touchwiz. Touchwiz costs money aswell and simply buying a phone wihout a custom UI should make it cheaper, but I dont think that Samsung or HTC would wanna play along those lines.

If only google did not "Produce" nexus phones only to promote its "Cloud" services.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IRX120:
I won't buy it unless it says nexus

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.72 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abrown0809:
I would probably get the gs4 Google edition if my Nexus 4 were to break. With a better camera, better battery, bigger screen with no on screen buttons, proper LTE out the box, and basically the same nexus software, the gs4 Google edition seems like a good idea to me. Just not good enough to replace a perfectly fine nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidBot123:
I'm happy with my Nexus 4, I'm not selling it any time soon to get another phone. Not even a stock S4 version :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nauman:
Samsung never again!

No, never again going back to Samsung!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sLiKK:
totally agree with this one.

Im sold but im afraid its too expensive. lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spawns:
The same person that would buy an HTCone Pure version.......and also the same one that would buy a Sony Xperia Z pure version......

:silly:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aerys:
Hi:D I have a S4 I9505 and hope i can convert it to Google Edition:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alangrig:
Funboy you are...fun sake. Common known problem with AMOLED just Google. If you are blind that's your problem. But AMOLED is bad quality screen.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bl@ck:
Fun fact is, i was going to buy the S4 GE, but price and availability (us only) totally killed my will to wait, instead i got a Nexus 4 for cheap and gonna wait for the next Nexus, maybe they'll get it right this time.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
I was thinking about it today, with all these GE phones, they (google) don't need to push a great camera, microsd support or anything that would raise the manufacturing costs, to the nexus line. They'll probably go with some conpromises with the next nexus like they did with the nexus4 (or galaxy nexus) and keep the prices low.

The best bet would be, keep the nexus 4, it's still a little power house, and wait for the next generation of procesors, maybe 3 gigs of RAM , and hopefully by then we should get a good camera, more storage options etc etc... I kinda doubt that the next nexus device will meet these specs.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] waltthizzney:
why not wait for the nexus 5 though...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtwlbz:
Not here since its not nexus
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] crawlgsx:
Not me. No interest in the GS4, Official AOSP or not.

The HTC One is super nice, the AOSP version would probably have even tempted me, but after going through 3 HTC One's with different quality issues I came back to my N4. Still a nice phone but not worth $600 over the N4. (From my standpoint, the N4 is free, I own it. the One was $600) and I would feel the same way with official Google One.

I'll wait for the N5/something else.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidDavi:
The only reason I'd go is for a removable battery. I don't care about SD slot and I have lte .
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madmike413:
I would if the price was reasonable like my N4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
Waste of money
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrBelter:
Odd that a thread about a Samsung device is allowed to live when the reason given for locking others is they are not about the nexus 4, hmmmm.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brantzlee:
frankly,it cost too much...and I don' like those entity keys.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dodgebizkit:
A nexus 4 as primary phone and a note 3 in September as work phone and you got the best of both worlds :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] donwhall70:
Not if it is a Sammy.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamice4u:
I would say it would be a good price to pay if you weren't required to sign a contract and your monthly phone bill was lower.

Unless you are grand fathered into some ridiculously lower priced plan.

The reason why the phones cell for 349 is because our phones are subsidized by the cell phone carriers.

We paid a higher monthly bill which is more money over a 2 years period. Now if you could take this to any carrier and have the phone activated then it is worth the price.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -sandro-:
Does it mean the classic s4 could be 'nexused' ? or you need the nexus version with unlocked bootloade?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semantics:
It doesn't matter, though. The price is what the price is. Why spend 300 dollars more on a minimal upgrade? It doesn't matter what the Nexus 4 should sell for, it matters what it does sell for. 649.00 is way too much for the Samsung S4, which will likely be dumbed down a bit to keep the TW variant their flagship.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisrozon:
Yeah, but over the lifetime of the mandatory contract you'll more than pay back the difference to AT&T.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teambestyrandy:
Yes it can be a "nexus" experience phone. S4 rooted with cyanogen mod is basically quite the same as a Google nexus s4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] talpa75:
Why the hell have to buy this?

If i can choose i would prefer to buy a TW'ed Samsung S4 and than flash CyanogenMod to have a Pure Google experience and some more :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -sandro-:
I meant if it could be recognized as google phone and get updates like the nexus variant. Isn't the s4 classic with a locked bootloader? If yes does this create problems with cm?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marsdta:
The price makes sense especially since it carries the galaxy name and not nexus brand. If it were sold at n4 prices it would affect the sales of the tw versions. Google can sell the n4 so cheap because their revenue stream doesnt come from retail but ads/search. Samsung's money comes from actually selling devices
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mi|enko:
I would. . . if I didn't already own an N4. Sure, the phone's quite a bit faster and has an awesome camera (not to mention an SD card slot), but 650 to me isn't worth it. $350 for a 16GB N4 is a steal.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] POLO_i780:
I find it funny how people are not grasping the fact that this is a Google Experience device, it's GOOGLE who are selling it and its GOOGLE who will update it meaning updates will be at the same time as the Nexus 4. I'm sure this will rip apart the N4 in sales and therefore get plenty updates :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] styckx:
No.. Everyone does grasp that fact. And 30 Helens agree it is over priced by a lot compared to the N4

Sent from my Nexus 4