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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nate2:
Sounds like MS Windows.

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No such thing as a lag-free device. Run an app(s) that leaks resources, finalizes without closing cursors, etc. and you'll see lag creep in. And there are many such apps in the Play Store. Only those who reboot their devices daily will mask this problem. People who typically have a System Uptime (what's that? Lol!) less than a couple of hundred hours will not readily notice this issue. Takes a lot of time and effort to monitor these apps to see if they are leaking resources over time.

Android 4.2 introduced many problems on the N7. I'd rather have a device that performs better than one with a little more bells and whistles that introduces fundamental problems. Which is precisely why my Nexus 7 is still running Android 4.1.2, and I don't install every app I'd like to have on it.

Charging, for some reason, is also taking significantly longer now on my N7. I have reason to believe it is due to a Google Services/Framework update (either via a Play or Maps update over the past couple of months).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Tommy-Geenexus:
Maybe for you, but i/o is a lot faster with disabled fsync.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Well to be fair I don't really count lagging due to bad apps when I say "lag free". If I'm being technical then yes I've gotten my Nexus 4 to lag quite a bit, even lock up or randomly reboot, mostly with beta testing apps that aren't quite stable yet. Every device would have the same issues under the same circumstances.

When I mean lag free, I'm mainly referring to ui navigation. Whenever I experience lag the first thing to mind is "did (insert app) cause the problem"?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] smarttmd:
suggestion maybe

Why won't google then introduce verified apps in Play Store,( maybe a badge on the icon like Twitter, or a category in store) so you wont have to worry about the quality of the app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I dunno. I wish they would, at least with the essential apps, like the Facebook app thats terrible. No tablet ui, no support for jelly bean notifications, no contact sync, and a ui that looks like a combination of froyo and ios.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TheManii:
What would quality be even? Since even goog's own apps are kinda inconsistant if you're on GB or so. They're a blend of holo and gb then.

Granted we're not gonna be using GB on the new N7, but goog wouldnt past muster with (some of) their own apps. There's dozens of teams working on gapps, some of them lag behind.

It kinda boils down to: it's so device and rom dependant that it wouldnt be that meaningful would it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Fender127:
We need concrete information...

It is so frustrating that Google has not announced any solid news on the successor of the Nexus 7. All of the rumors are still rumors and it seems like an endless wait for the tablet. Every rumor declaring dates it would be announced has been wrong (excluding the July one, which obviously cannot be proven until its July). The real question is, when will we have an exact date with exact specs? I'm dying for Google to release this device! Hopefully we don't have to wait too much longer and hopefully it is revealed before the refresh of the Nexus 4 and 10 are. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Google won't give any news till its announced, it's been like that with every nexus device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jeanleo786:
New Nexus 7 to feature quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon mobile processor

The next generation Nexus 7 tablet will feature Qualcomm Snapdragon mobile processor and also Long Term Evolution support, as per reports which have been made by Google & Asus. The Nexus 7 tablet will be offered in HSPA+">HSPA+ supporting version with LED backlight display and quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro mobile processor, according to an earlier FCC filing.

Though at present, the Bluetooth SIG filing of the new Nexus 7 tablet lists it with quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 mobile processor. It is possible that Google-Asus Nexus 7 will be offered in various models out of which one is the Nexus 7 with LTE and another is the Asus MeMo Pad model. The Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 based Nexus 7 with LTE support might be offered in select regions for instance. According to the Bluetooth SIG listings, those regions include Africa, Asia, Australia, Europe, North America and South America.

In the new Nexus 7, another change would be the rear camera apart from the new Qualcomm mobile chipset. The new Nexus 7 tablet also arrive with Android 4.3 Jelly Bean MR2 running on it. The tablet will be powered by 4000 mAh battery. As per The Mobile Indian, the new Nexus 7 would cost more than the first generation Nexus 7 tablet.:angel:

gm.kochar.com/post/new-nexus-7-to-feature-quad-core-qualcomm-snapdragon-mobile-processor.aspx
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] I Am Marino:
The battery concerns me.

Should have been at least the same 4300 or so mAh that is in ours now.

-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
I think they're trying to focus on making the device thinner if these rumors are true. Either way, battery life should be the same as the S4 is much more power efficient than the Tegra 3
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] I Am Marino:
Yea that's true,
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Well, after all all - thinner device will be lighter, which is good. Take the iPad Mini - it's light as hell!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
The N7 is all I need out of a tablet of this size. I would rather put my money towards the next killer 10" tablet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
I was chatting with Asus and they told me that the Asus k008/k009 should release next month with 4.3 jellybean. He said that since the product has not released he couldn't tell me the specifications,but he did say that this is the new nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Lol I thought companies weren't supposed to comment on unreleased, unannounced products, especially level one CSA's which probably known about as much as we do.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] veeman:
How would some customer service dude know about future product releases?

So... Pics or it didn't happen :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
I thought so too, but Asus really values their customer support. He tried to pull up the model in his system, but he said that because the product has not been released he cannot tell the specs.

They are able to pull up the model number in their computer. The reason he wasn't able to give too much information was because the device has not been released. I didn't take any screenshots of the chat, but he is not the only customer service that told me it was the next nexus 7. Anyhow you could always chat with them your self if you don't believe. I have no reason to lie about something like this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Cool, hyped to get 4.3 and 5.0 in the autimn
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Poke_N_PDA:
I've been checking news on this every day. I am so ready for it to launch. I hope we get an event announcement soon so we can at least know when we'll know. It's the not knowing that is so hard. I still have to hold myself back from buying something else. I sold my Nexus 7 a while back thinking my Note 2 would work as a table replacement. It hasn't. Once the new N7 comes out I'm getting it. Then when the new Nexus phone hits I'll ditch my Note 2 for that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Now we know you're just messing with us.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
Lmaoo I didn't even notice that, but I was talking about every time Jonney Shih(CEO) goes on stage he talks about their high rated customer service.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lumianti:
Does anyone know where s600 rumours come from? How possible is to make a spelling mistake on documents sent to FCC?

On the other hand though they put only "nexus" in the device name so unless they plan to call it just nexus (which I doubt) they did omit one character in that paper.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
How can people be complaining of the stock 4.2 ROM being slow on this site of all places?!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
Because the modded 4.2 Roms are just as slow
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
Depends on the device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
Well this is in the Nexus 7 General section, so it can be assumed that any complaints about speed in here are about the Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
:highfive:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] :
Having which kernel used with which ROM also affects the performance.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
This is what Asus told me take it with a grain of salt since they are just customer support.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Hot damn. Juicy internal information. Sounds like a winner. Now we just play the waiting game.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Screw Full HD screen -_- totally unneeded on 7" size
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tsekh501:
That's what I thought, but I was wrong.

I thought 720p on the Nexus 4 was good enough, and then I got the HTC One. Now I see unicorn vomiting rainbow every time I turn on the phone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Unicorn? I guess you mean AOKP then? lol
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
While I have no complaints with the nexus 7s screen, and while it's still nicer than most screens in the 7 inch category, there is still room for improvement. I'm not sure what resolution the nook hd runs, but it owns our screen! But that being said, anything above 1080p seems pointless
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
I bet by 2015 there will be 4k smartphone screens

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.944 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kumczak:
Dude, this should be on every news webpage! You've made my day, now I'm just hoping this guy wasn't making that all up and we'll see the new Nexus before August.

If you'll be talking with them again, be sure to tell us what they've told you :). Maybe ask them for pricing and announcement date.

Cheers and thanks!

EDIT: We should REALLY take it with a huge grain of salt. Q2 ends with June, so launching new N7 "before the ending of Q2" would mean a release within 4 next days, while later the dude writes that it will be before the end of July, which is already in Q3. So, i wouldn't believe them too much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Not necessarily, not every company's quarter starts with January 1st.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phonic:
You know what's even more useless than a 1080p 7" screen?

A rear camera.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
How so? Just b/c its not useful for you doesn't mean it isn't for someone else.

Sure I'd like to see a cheaper version without the camera, but in all reality the camera included is probably dirt cheap and its just another selling point when comparing to other tablets.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I don't know what resolution would be the max your eye can see on a 7 inch tablet but there is room for improvement, just go play with a nook hd and you'll see the difference
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Fajaka:
Why there isn't new news about new Nexus 7? There were rumors that was saying o 26th July(When S4 and One will be released) we will get more info.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nate2:
I see many people holding up their 10" iPad to take pictures at their kid's school events. Annoying to people standing/sitting behind them, but it's good advertisement for Apple and the iPad. Lol!

But we don't say mean things to them about it. I just wish they'd make bigger tablets; I want to know how big a tablet they'd realistically use to take photos of their kids. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
I hardly ever use a camera on any device, but my nexus 4, on my 7 I have no use for the front camera other than occasional video chats, but if there's a back one, in the heat of the moment you might need to take a picture, so, well...

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.944 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] yatbond:
Just to put things in perspective. I run a construction business that hires 2,000 staff with annual revenue of us$700 million in Hong Kong. I am testing to run projects with the assistance of smart devices that allow staff to communicate and work more efficiently, which I won't go into details. Since we are limiting to1 device per staff, i need to consider portability and screen size for reading drawings. Nexus 7 was perfect except it doesn't have a rear camera that allows real time sharing of site photographs. That was a deal breaker.

We are now testing Asus's Fonepad.

Everyone has a different need. I don't need a camera on my tablet but my company does...... Let's not be so self centered.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] stamatis:
Thread cleaned.

Please proceed on topic and stop this way of posting or else stricter actions will be taken.

Thank you;).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Well I got my Nexus 7 running quickly again. Yeah it's slower than my Nexus 4, but hey its a whole generation behind hardware wise, so I can live with that, it works for what I use it for so I won't be buying a new nexus 7, at least not right away, but I'm eager for an announcement, wanna see what this things got!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lumianti:
...so JB 4.3 has just leaked for Galaxy S4... Hopefully it will at least factor a sooner official specs release for N7.2.:)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 3473:
I am looking forward to this. My nexus 10 lags like hell regardless of what rom you put on it, and it's too big
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Should have gotten Xperia Tablet Z
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Bamt4s:
Hasn't the Xperia tablet z been released just recently? Nexus 10 is way older, so he probably bought it some time ago.

sent with tapatalk 4 beta
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Well, yeah, but still :P
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] HarmonyFlame:
I find my nexus 10 to be pretty awesome. Hopefully what takes place once they release 4.3 is it resolves the problems 4.2.2 caused for both the nexus 10 and 7. I plan on getting the nexus 7 anyway cause I want a smaller tablet to accompany my nexus 4 better, but I still believe the nexus is the best 10 incher for sure.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
It's good to live in US or Europe where you can get almost any device. There are even no GNexuses left in stock, and only a couple of retailers sell N4 here in Russia, + NO OFFICIAL N10 SALES WHATSOEVER

WTF Samsung!?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 3473:
Tablet z still too big ;)

7 inch size is perfect
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
No way, I saw it just yesterday at a retail shop - damn, it looks so small to me:laugh:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Strike_Riku:
Well July starts tomorrow so, 30 days of hoping for me.

As long as the Next N7 hits the scene by late Q3/ Early Q4 I'll be happy.

Nexus'd
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
I'm definitely buying the new nexus 7 because I just RMA'd my 8gb nexus 7 and they sent me back a 16gb one, which I will sell.

Thanks Google :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Kumczak:
I've just made a chat with Asus live chat support and they told me the same thing as it was mentioned before, it is specs:

Probable release/presale date:

And:

So let's wait patiently (no way, lol)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Strike_Riku:
Thanks for acquiring this info. Did he say/ you ask whether it will be a new N7 or whether its just a Asus tablet with sweet specs.

Nexus'd
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Eime:
Seems like more and more people are getting insider-information from the asus-supporters. This one confirms that the K009 is the new Nexus 7!

gottabemobile.com/2013/07/01/asus-rep-claims-k009-is-new-nexus-7-tablet/

Can't wait anymore :victory:

Greetings from Germany :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
I just hope that Asus/Google make a third-generation or a Nexus 8, because when I'm going to upgrade - N7 will already be dropped, and N7\2 will be a year old
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eksasol:
They aren't going to make an 8 I think. Google isn't a hardware manufacturer and they'll want to keep a specific number of devices, unlike Samsung. The screen sizes are to match with their Android OS design. Ofcourse they are going to keep updating their tablets, what ever is going to be called and waterbed manufacturer it'll be made by, just wait till July 2014, and 2015, etc.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Angus66:
If the specs mentioned are accurate I'll definitely pick up a 2nd gen Nexus 7. Prices have dropped nicely on the current model - I picked up a 32GB N7 from Micro center this past weekend. Will sell it if it's as powerful as it's rumored to be.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DarkShoko:
I want an option to display my screen on a tv :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
you mean Miracast support?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] silverwater25:
Definitely going to get this.

I've been using the Nexus 7 as my main mobile device with a Verizon LTE Mifi (including calls using the GVoice to a VOIP "trick".). Selling points for me are probably the rear facing camera and the LTE capability...another user was lamenting about the useless of a rear facing camera but this is preferable to pointing the tablet over my shoulder to take pictures. :)

Plus, a rear camera makes scanning much easier. It's always awkward trying to scan a barcode with only a front facing camera. Maybe Chase will make their check depositing option available for this as well.

And with LTE I can ditch the mifi and not have to worry about two batteries dying on me.:good:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
I'm actually more wondering what's gonna be next after the Nexus 7, since I can't just throw 300$ every time there's a new device available. The Nexus 4 here costs 12.000 RUB which is 400$, The Nexus 7 3G starting price was about 14.000, which is ~450$. 850$ within one year for two new devices is kind of too much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
That's expensive on the play store the 3g is 300$

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Well now it's not as expensive as it was back in November, today I can get N7 3G for 10.000 RUB which is a bit more than 300$. Too bad that Nexus 10 is not even being sold here officially by Samsung at all (though it's available at several online shops at 600$ for 16gig version)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] trssho91:
I hope it comes out soon at a close price to the n7, I just broke the screen on my 8gb n7 and square trade is cutting me a check for $199. It hurts having no tablet and a pile of money just sitting there!!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
BTW guys did you ever notice how the image of N7 on its box resembles the "7" digit?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sgt. meow:
Yeah. It's intended to look like it, an easter egg by Google.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
I frickin love Google for these things
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sgt. meow:
Me too!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] emd2009:
i dont think ill be getting another tablet, i have enjoyed my nexus 7 but i have realized i enjoy using my htc one and macbook air for anything i need to get done
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] twizmwazin:
I feel this is a dumb question, but I did see a wireless charger but nothing mentioning a wired one. (There may have been for all I know, I am not very good with terminology.) Will there be one? And if there isn't, would there still be a micro USB port?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] StrangerWeather:
Staples Drops Nexus 7 16GB to $179, 32GB to $199 – Here Comes the New Nexus

Could it be true?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phillip1953:
I wouldn't mind having a decent camera on my N7. It's in my hands more than my phone. :)

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] s1lenz:
I thought that until I wanted to deposit a check using an app. Then it all made sense.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] I Am Marino:
Almost called it spec for spec.

Just got the screen resolution wrong.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Well I'm buying it... for a few reasons

I recently did a job where I was given a N7 to program some web apps for. I already had one. Afterwards it sat on my desk for months until I let my son play on it. Well Thursday I got a text saying they needed it back. Well that night, he broke the screen.

So instead of buying 32gb N7 to replace it, I'm going to give them mine and pick up the next version.

It would be senseless not to. So bad timing/perfect timing. I just hope that I can reuse my Portenzo book case... and they release it asap. I have till May 24th before I have to do something and don't want to be without for long.

The N7 is a sweet tab but I look forward to the new processor and screen... and Qi... and HDMI out maybe!

And hopefully someone gets a custom rom out for 4.3 with tablet mode.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eksasol:
Just don't use it Jesus Christ.

Sent from XDA app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
I'm not going to bother with refresh. I'm happy with performance of the current gen.

I will probably put the money towards a 2nd gen nexus 10.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Will there even be one?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
Why do you say that? I have not been keeping up to date with the nexus 10 news. Are Google going to abandon the 10" form factor?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
How do I know? Maybe yes, maybe no. Thay may go for 11" with Nexus 11, since I don't think there is any mean Sammy can upgrade the current N10 by a 2nd gen device, since it's already one of the most powerful Android tablets on the market. Only thing they could do is implement a 3G/LTE module and make it lighter somehow (like, using newer architechtue, lighter materials, etc.)

They could've also go for 9" tablet, but I guess it'll only come in the following years, since it would be logically right for Google to set its foot in each of the available segments by releasing 8" and 9" tablets with Nexus 8 and Nexus 9

But that's just my opinion

Besides, I haven't heard or saw anything related to plans or even rumours about Sammy/Google plans to release a 2nd gen Nexus 10, not even a speculation or a leak
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
OK cheers.

Are you getting the new nexus 7?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Nope, I'm totally pleased with my current N7, and I see no point of having a Full HD display on a 7" screen, though Snapdragon > Tegra, which would mean bye-bye to lags and need to wait for optimizations by the devs specifically for Tegra chipset. And maybe a rear camera would be nice, though I only took, like, 3 pics during the time I had my HTC Flyer 8 months ago
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
Yeah that is sort of my reasoning. The screen resolution of the current nexus is perfect for 7". It looks perfectly sharp to me. I don't need a rear camera too. I have also been looking at comparisons between the tegra3 and the s4 pro. The s4 does have an advantage but its not night and day, plus it will have to cope with the increased resolution.

Don't get me wrong it does look like a nice upgrade and I will be tempted, but I think I'm going to hold out.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Lol, only until the 7 dies. That would be the only actual reason to upgrade.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
why would i? i have a phone

seems like a pointless addition (IMO) if they're aiming for a similar price point