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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
In a way that is true.

But I find that in some areas T-Mobile has better coverage than Verizon. College of Marin in Novato is one of many cases that T-Mobile is much better. For me I travel up and down the North Bay (Sonoma and Marin counties), San Francisco, Central Bay (San Mateo county), and South Bay (Santa Clara county). By most part I find T-Mobile as good as Verizon. Some areas Verizon is better. And other areas T-Mobile is better. In my experience within the Bay Area they are equal. Each have their own strengths and weaknesses.

What carrier is better all depends on the area that you use the services and what they provide to you.

For me T-Mobile is better if not equal to Verizon and T-Mobile gives me unlimited services (talk, text and data) with a better price. So I use T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JesseMT4G:
It's always best to check your maps and read reviews on certain areas where you will be at. Tmobile is definitely more spotty than other carriers, however in good coverage areas I get better speeds that people on At&t or Verizon. Sprint is terrible around here.

It just depends, for example at work when I am at the truck gate I get decent 4G speeds, but inside I am on full 2G speeds. And we are talking two football fields distance.

It is what it is, but I do try to work outside more, lol!

Fancy pants Note ||:)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] inspron:
This is OFFICIALLY BS!

"FACEBOOK FAN PAGE"!!!

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...22-updates-for-galaxy-note-2-galaxy-s-3-r1638
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Noted way back here :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=41296766

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] TerrorCandii:
I believe we could get 4.2.2, I mean sh*t my S2 my girl now has(had) got the 4.1.2 JB update, so. Samsung seems to linger devices, so I'll believe when I see it, but wouldn't doubt we get it. I honestly love my Note 2,and could not go back to a smaller device, so I'll stick with it for longer the I usually do. If we get it, awesome, if we don't... no loss, I still love my phone.

TerrorCandii Inc.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] luigi90210:
dude, i dropped verizon for tmobile and i dont have any coverage problems

heck i travel all over san diego county for work and the only difference i noticed is that in some rural parts, verizon has 4g coverage and tmobile has edge coverage(which is all you really need to make phone calls, send texts, and receive emails) and the one spot i was in that i didnt have coverage in was at a clients house and even then im not suppose to take calls when im working so idgaf honestly and as far as data speeds are concerned, i get better download speeds on HSPDA+ then i ever did on 4gLTE...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] str8killinya:
out here in west Chester Ohio I'm getting way better speeds then any of my friends on Verizon lte so it really just matters where you are. also went on vacation to Gatlinburg and stayed in a cabin with my whole family. different ones had Verizon, sprint, and cincinnati bell wireless all of us got 0 service but guess what my phone still worked cause I had wifi calling. all I'm saying is service is location based not carrier based
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] OmmNomNom:
Yeah the more clusters on traffic the slower it gets
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Crinkypops:
The S3 got a leaked 4.2.2. I can already see the Note 2 not being far behind.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] [bman123]:
My note could use 4.2.2 now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] OmmNomNom:
Hopefully soon, but T-Mobile aren't exactly good at keeping promises on dates
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
I don't see it... the Note 3 will have 4.2.2 they will not put it on the Note 2 until the Note 3 is out for a bit. Marketing 101

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Rob the plumber:
You stayed in a cabin with wifi? You adventurer you! J/k
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] asainz320:
There's not going to be a Note3, its going to be called the Mega and its going to be a 6.3" screen device. I'm already testing it. Its going to look similar to the GS4, just as the Note2 was to a GS3.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Two different phones.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
Mega is the mid range series of the phablet world. Also doesn't have the spen.

Note is the high end series of the phablet world. The spen is also part of the Note series. And the flagship of all Samsung's flagships.

Two different series and two different devices.

The S series is a high end main market smartphone series and the other Samsung's flagship.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] EPICTROY:
That goes too show you that the s3 is Samsungs top flagship and note series number 2 its true sorry:D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
Yes and no, the note is more expensive and all around better phone (we shall see what the specs of the note 3 vs s4) but the s series is by far the most popular thus it is a big priority for Samsung. What was initially an niche market turns out to be damn popular. I can't fathom the note series ever beating the s series in sales
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] EPICTROY:
I have had the s3 and note 2 and s4...The s3 was by far the best Android phone I have ever had...I sold because everyone was over hyping the note 2 and I like the note 2 great phone too but thr screen was lacking compare to the s3 but it has cool features tho....now my number concern of the note 3 is I hope its screen is better then the s4....but I have my doubts about that.....btw note series sales like hotcakes lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
That doesn't make sense. Note 2 is basically the same as S3 but with upgraded apps and hardware. Basically Note 2 is a S3 blown up in size.

---------- Post added at 03:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:45 PM ----------

What I like to see is who will sell better and who is the better product, iPhone 5s or Galaxy Note 3. Galaxy Note 3 is being pinned against iPhone 5s this autumn.

It is smart for Samsung to release Galaxy S series at this time of the year. While releasing the Note series late summer/early autumn time.

The Galaxy S series competes against the other Androids at this time of the year.

While the Note series competes against the iPhone market as well as beefing up against the rest of the Android market at the holiday time of year.

Note series is more important flagship than some people realize.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Isaiahgreg2:
Maybe
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
And why they would never remotely consider changing the name. :)

Mega shmega

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
I am confused with your statement.

Mega series gives the image of large and abundance to an average person. Which is fitting name for a mid range phablet.

S series name is very well known brand name for the Galaxy S series. That helps in marketing the devices.

Note series name fits because of the Spen allows you to handwrite notes. Note taking also fits with the image of business and artist type (to say that in the politically correct way). In that way the name fits with the serious type users. No need to change Note series name. The name works quite well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
We agree! Earlier in the thread someone implied that the Note2 was being replaced by the Mega. The Note2 "brand" is set.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
That is true. The name is set. And a good name at that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] I Am Marino:
The Note brand will continue I'm sure.

And Samsung will probably go with three brands.

S-Series, Main flagship, most popular phone, etc.

Note Series, Productivity machine, big size, big battery, etc.

Mega Series, basically a clone of the S Series but at Note size.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] rosedog:
See I already thought the Note III had/has been confirmed.

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...-note-3-release-date-news-and-rumours-1138556

Also the N3 looks like it might launch with and updated JB 4.3, though KLP 5.0 could be possible, so who knows:

http://www.techradar.com/us/news/ph...-specs-leak-hints-at-eight-core-beast-1148482
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] You_got_owned123:
Lol, my friend saw my phone as was like, "your phone must not be good because no one has it." More like no one has it because none of you can afford it. The Note 2 half an year later is the same price as an S4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
That is why sooooo many people go for the iPhone. Because many others have the iPhone, so the iPhone must be good to buy. Lol and very puzzled at the average consumer's purchasing logic.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bronyr:
Ronnie, somehow I have a feeling we'll be exchanging the crows @ eating contest, S3 getting 4.2.2 officially from Samsung, leak but nevertheless; I bet Note2 will fall the same pattern:

http://androidspin.com/2013/05/20/leak-android-4-2-2-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s-iii-now-available-to-download/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
LOL. Maybe but this is an unofficial leak from Samsung Remember TMO or the other carriers have to screw it up too LOL. Still say late summer early fall. Remember the original post was about an official release in May... tomorrow's the 25th. I say you will still have the crow haha.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] dubay.yabud:
4 days left for May and I'm still hoping for 4.2.2 update :D:D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Better chance of winning the Powerball

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Isaiahgreg2:
I cant believe you just said that lol... -_-
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
When the s3 gets 4.2 would it be easy to port over. I know the s3 has some n2 ports and made multi window possible long before the official update?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
No it would not even be worth the time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ReelFiles:
I would venture a guess and say that we won't get 4.2.2 until after the Note 3 has been out for a while so that they can sell more units.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
Not challenging your answer but why is that? Just asking? Is it because it also needs 4.2 base?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bronyr:
If this is all that Samsung has to offer flooding us with "new" units (software gimmicks) then they are really in trouble. Good thing newer models are much more than that, that's why I don't believe something like that holding them back from releasing software updates. My take is major updates could cause potential problems with existing units and they don't want to take those risks, not cyst effective.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ReelFiles:
"We" are of Samsung's least concern. Us modders, tweakers, power users or whatnot are the minority, by far. 95% or more of users want new phones because they tout new features, rarely do they know, nor care, about hardware capabilities and new technologies.

If Samsung were to backport most of the S4 features to the S3 and N3 to N2 right away, a lot of People wouldn't feel that they needed to pay more money and extend their service plans. Samsung has to convince them that the only way to get the latest and greatest is to buy the new device and have said features be exclusive for some time before making them available to older devices.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
It's always about marketing. They have a roadmap for the next year or two. It's all planned.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
Because the code for 4.2.2 would exist throughout the entire ROM, meaning there would be camera, Bluetooth, Wi-Fi, just all kinds of broken ***t. It would be like running a beta CM ROM or something.

If the hardware for the s4 and note ii were very similar or identical then it wouldn't be as complicated.

Just pray the ATT or international Note ii get it first. THAT would be easy to port. And everything would work out the gate besides Wi-Fi calling
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
The international Note2 will get it first. But not until the Note 3 has been out for a while.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
Not sure about that. The note iii could very well launch with a newer version of Android as it is planned for the end of the year or early next.

I could see the note iii getting a brand new version of Android like 5.0 and the note ii getting 4.2.2 by the end of the summer.

Either way, I don't care. Getting a note iii when I can. Lmao
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
There is no way it will get 5.0 unless a Nexus Phone has already been released with it. Since a new Nexus is due around November that would mean for a clear marketing window for the N5 a Note2 launch around the first of the year. I don't see Samsung waiting that long. More likely the Note3 will get . 4.2.2 or 4.3

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
That's true. Could be a nexus late this year, note iii early next.

New version of Android on the nexus.

Meaning note ii will probably be updated before then with 4.2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] woundedworld:
I would love to see a Nexus 5 with a 5 inch screen and Android 5 on it. That would be my next. :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Me too. I am kinda done with the N2

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mufaddalezzi:
May is about to end..still no clue or even leaked info about 4.2.2 for note 2..the latest version 4.1.2 for my note 2 is so bad like atleast they can fix that with a small update..I know 4.2.2 won't be bug free but still they can improve touchwiz and reduce some problems that 4.1.2 has..I am frustrated and at the same time excited for 4.2.2 with atleast fixing some of the problems and adding some features also :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] slybarman:
Not sure what is wrong with your N2, but mine is near perfect.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Isaiahgreg2:
Yeah im not really seeing the problems. Ofc there are always a few minor hiccups but there not that over bearing....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
you will not see 4.2.2 until the fall.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
I don't mind waiting around for a little while for 4.2.x or higher (but only a little while). I just would like to add Widgets on the lock screen. That is a cool feature.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] PC Jona:
idc about any of that i just want the dual recording camera. the lock screen is alright.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] inconceeeivable:
I just want to lose these freaking wake locks. By battery is probably reduced by 30-40% since 4.1.2.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
The wake locks are present in 4.2.2 as well

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] janjannsen99:
l Have somthig that Might mightFixit send me a pm with email and l will send Yew the file

Oh and put your email so l can send to you in Pm not on the forum! make a backup first before yuu flash it. l had the same problem and it fixed mine

edit: if you dont want its ok too 1 understand
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] [bman123]:
I don't know what the deal is with the wake locks. I haven't experienced it yet with my note 2, every other Android phone I've owned got wake locks except for this one and I'm running 4.1.2 also. My battery life is amazing with this phone, I easily go 24 hours between charges
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] janjannsen99:
Theres a .zip to stop the wake locks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] slybarman:
Battery life is good on this phone because it has a big honking battery. The linux kernel has some wakelock issues that are not the phones fault. Also some apps will cause wakelocks. So, what specific wakelocks are you referring to?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] inconceeeivable:
mdm_hsic_pm0 is the terrible one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] slybarman:
That is in the linux kernel if I understand correctly and is not specific to the phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Has been reported on about every ROM

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] blazinazn:
hmmm....

http://www.sidhtech.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-3-s3-android-422-jelly-bean-update/1006270/
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] FarReach:
Interesting article but kind of confusing. At the beginning it said the Note 2 will be getting Key Lime Pie when it comes out, but at the end it said the last update is going to be 4.2.2.... :confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Tatdude806:
This is what happens when you let NON-JOURNALISTS write articles about things they know little about. Basic proof-reading would have caught this error.

I also point out that this is probably for everyone but us on TMO or any subsidized carrier. We won't see 4.2.2 for several months at least. We all know TMO has a thing about taking their sweet time to update.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ermmanuel:
No update here yet lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tedman76ers:
The update is probably gonna be released by the middle of the week
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
LOL! Never happen.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] iCUE220:
Hmm new 4.1.2 firmware T889uvbmd1 for tmobile Galaxy note 2 devices.. http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/ what's that about?

"Hi my name is icue_220... and im a Tweaked'a'holic"(dont judge me)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] inconceeeivable:
Cruel coincidence lol.

I did notice that the 4.1.2 update is no longer available through Kies.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] GN2Rabbit:
Just updated to that ROM. Haven't noticed much of a difference yet.

Sent from my SGH-T889
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] inconceeeivable:
Weird. Is there a new modem?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] GN2Rabbit:
Yes. New modem.

Sent from my SGH-T889
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Because 4.2.2 is not on TMOs radar

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
wrong. it is.

the note ii will see 4.2.2 by mid-late august. this is consistent with samsung updates. they'll let the galaxy s4 be the knight toting the latest and greatest software for a few months (to sell devices) and then other older devices will see the software upgrade.

note ii will be first in line. then s3, and right on down the line.

t-mobile and samsung are good with updates... the only reason 4.1.2 took forever was because of the LTE implementation across their network, and as you see more network rebuilding, you will see more updates.

like i said, they are consistent.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Will never happen until after the note 3 is released. Not sure when that is but most likely this summer. They will not want the 2 running the same version on release. That is marketing 101.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
^lol what makes you think you will see a note III by the end of summer? lmao.

the note ii has only been out about 7 months... they'll wait at lest a year to release the note iii.... which would mean november or december... probably even later than that.

note iii will not launch with the same software that the s4 did... THAT is marketing 101.

however, i will say this... the note III launching with a newer version of android will depend on google... if they have nothing by that time as far as new software, then yes, you are correct.

but if we see a new version of android... note iii will launch with that... and note ii will get an update as i said.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
You know nothing about marketing. Apple is releasing new phones for the fall back to school Christmas season. Samsung is rushing to get the Note3 out early to steal Apples thunder. I have some friends at Samsung. The Note is in testing. Hell the Note 4 is in design. These guys have road maps out years. They are in an all out war with Apple. Its not about how long a phone has been out. Releases are based on selling cycles and competition.

Google ONLY historically releases a new OS on Google devices. The X phone will have 4.3. The next Nexus will get 5.0. Bet the farm. The Note 3 will have 4..2.2 because it is being developed and tested now. 4.3 has not been released. No non Nexus phone has ever gotten a new Android version first. The X phone being made by Moto (Google) will be released this summer. A mid price phone for kids headed back to school. LG is rumoured to making the Nexus 5. That will be October or November.

I could be wrong but don't bet on it LOL. All that said the G3 will get 4.2.2 before the Note 2. They will not roll them at the same time because they are hugely popular phones. Releasing them at the same time is a support issue. In addition the G4 is out. They will give it a few more months and upgrade the G3. Then the Note 2 after the N3 has been out for amount 5 - 6 months.... = Dec or Jan after they have sold a crap load of N3s for Christmas.

These guys think September for a Note 3. http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/04/galaxy-note-3-processor-rumors-take-another-twist/

These guys August

http://m.techradar.com/news/phone-a...-note-3-release-date-news-and-rumours-1138556

This site says late June before we see it and prices are dropping on the N2 to unload stock.

http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/galaxy...-causes-galaxy-note-2-price-drops-04-06-2013/

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scottPilgrim:
Are we really posting tech articles? Come on now. If you have a friend at Samsung, why are you posting links to BS tech blogs. lmao

Yeah that makes sense, to update older devices before new ones, this is sooooo consistent with Samsung's history.... let's take a look.

Galaxy s III, compared to note II....

S III launches with ICS - 4.0.1

Note II launches with Jelly Bean - 4.1.1

S III gets Jelly Bean update a month a half later

Note II gets 4.1.2 two months after that

Galaxy s III get 4.1.2 FOUR MONTHS later

Now let's take that same logic, and apply to note II and galaxy s 4

Note II launches with 4.1.1, gets updated to 4.1.2

Galaxy s 4 Launches with 4.2.2

Samsung says, "let's update the s III before the note ii...."

This makes no sense whatsoever. And is not consistent with their history.

It seems in your accusations of me not understanding marketing, you forgot to assume that I do, however, understand what is actually physically happening when it comes to when and why devices are updated.

An older device will NEVER get an OS update before a newer one. Ever. Around the same time? Maybe.

Back to the drawing board Ronnie, lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] RonnieRuff:
Believe what you want. Time will tell won't it?

Not at the same time., a support nightmare.

Note 3 August - September. Note 2 gets 4.2.2 in December from TMO. That's my prediction. We will see.

As to the friends at Samsung. ND AGREEMENTS dictate they do not disclose :). I know that even you probably get that haha.

But like I said believe what you want. Heck maybe the Note 2 will be the first phone with KLP and Samsung will buzz you to beta test LOL

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