yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
Are you talking about MHL? slimport doesn't require a power source.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DT84:
Being Italian, what worries me most, is the availability outside US.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
I believe he is saying that plugging an otg cable in to the slim port will not work due to lack of power the slim port can provide.

So for it to work you have to have a powered micro USB hub to plug in to the slim port adaptor. Not even sure if this would work.

Seems likens minor incovience to me, unless you absolute have a need to use otg while displaying something on a larger screen via slim port.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DroidRunner:
After being at Universal Studios for 2 days, I got to see all the people taking pics with their tablets. You look stupid. Don't tell me you can't afford a cheap digi cam if you can get an iPad and goto Universal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Qbancelli:
Why are people still wishing for external memory on Nexus devices?

Google has said time and time again that they're not doing it, and clearly explained why.

Ain't gonna happen. Give it up already!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] daLareid:
If this turns out to be true, it makes me either want to get it or wait a few months for the 2nd Gen Nexus 10 (Nexus 11), I mean if they're releasing a new gen Nexus 7 after only one year it is also likely they'll do the same for the Nexus 10.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mulletcutter:
I wish my n7 had one. Then I would pretty much never need my phone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] veeman:
You realize it's called the Nexus 10 because it has a10 inch screen right.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eksasol:
If I get a nickle every time someone say this I would be a millionaire now, Nexus devices will not get sd slot in the next 5 billion years.

Sent from XDA app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Warren_Orange:
No chance. There has been so many delays with the new tegra chip that its not even coming off the assembly line yet. Plus it would be to expensive for a £199 device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sgt. meow:
Someone said these specs were just rumours. I read it on gsmarena IIRC.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] chismay:
usb adaptor + usb micro-sd card reader = sd card for flashing.......
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gc84245:
Wishing for something and expecting that the wish will actually come true are two very different things.

I WISH I was a billionaire, doesn't mean I think it's actually going to happen
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] KidCarter93:
As it the case with a few others here, I won't be making the upgrade to the next nexus 7 because I'm perfectly happy with my current one.

Do I need a camera on my N7? Not a chance. That's what my phone is for. If I wanted a tablet to be able to do everything, I wouldn't bother owning a phone. Simple as that!

I've had my N7 since early December 2012 and not had a single problem with it at all. Not even had any screen lift or other common problems among N7's.

There's only one time that I probably would get the updated version and that's if my current N7 broke. At that point, it would be beneficial (in terms of cost) to actually make the upgrade rather than get a previous model fixed.

There might not even be a new version released just yet though. Just because it's rumoured to be announced at Google I/O it doesn't mean it will be. OS version rumours are a perfect example of that.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] H3adru5H:
I love how everyone always tries to justify themselves in these situations. Yes, last years device is good enough. As is with EVERY device that releases in the prior year.

No one can sit here and honestly say that you don't want a new Nexus 7. Keep it to yourselves and stop trolling. This thread is obviously for people that are psyched about a new Nexus, not for those of you that say stuff like "My nexus 7 is still good enough blah blah blah I won't be upgrading." Completely unnecessary.

Anywho, I'll be putting up my 32gb for sale on CL and picking up the new N7 for very small upgrade fee. :D

The s4 pro+ adreno 320 destroy the Tegra 3 chip. Now all we need is a better screen and build quality.

Also to add since the Nexus 4 runs on the same SoC, we'll be able to use faux's screen color calibration app and calibrate the screens to our liking.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teamkang.fauxdisplay&hl=en

Really excited for this.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
Just cashed out some Bitcoin in anticipation of a new N7. I love mine, use it for everything, but I find it choppy when gaming, pushing me to my phone for things like GTA and Shadowgun. The pixel density has also stopped me from watching movies on it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DroidRunner:
I watch 1080p and its fine.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
Not actually 1080p if the screen is low res. You could throw a 4K resolution video on there and it would look the same
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DroidRunner:
1080 and 720 has a huge difference when watching a movie. What are you going for? I'm a novice when it comes to formats and resolutions
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gc84245:
Everyone is entitled to their opinions. People who don't want to upgrade have as much right to post here as those who do want to upgrade.

Sent from XDA app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
I just want to be able to watch movies without seeing pixels, same with web browsing. The difference you'll be seeing between 1080p and 720p movies is the method of compression. I've had 720 files bigger than a 1080 of the same video
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
I sure hope the 1

New nexus has 16gb for 199$

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.72 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] eksasol:
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/8712/trillionaire.jpg

(Also Nexus devices will never get sd slot.)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
You sorta got it right. Just using OTG by itself doesn't work on the N4 because the Slimport doesn't put out 5VDC that is needed for USB devices. And because of that Google lock the Code for OTG out for the N4 so you need a Modded Kernel. I just hope Google got it right this time. No OTG would be an inconvenience.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
That sounds like a mess! I guess he wants to connect to a monitor and use a usb keyboard and mouse.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] slybunda:
atleast specs will be confirmed tomorrow. also is tomorrow android 4.3 release date?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Damn, I won't be able to watch the event online tomorrow -_-
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DT84:
I don't think so. I think tomorrow they'll show 4.3, then it will hit the nexus terminals over the next weeks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] obscuresword:
I have heard that we would get conformation tommortow as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Best Buy and Staples all have marketing materials and flyers stating a 7/30 release (Tuesday). If they don't announce it now, they won't have another chance to announce it again unless they have ANOTHER conference?

Google always releases a new Android version with a new device.Tomorrow = 4.3+N7 = Good day. Then they'll make me wait a week to get one :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] wilsonlam97:
Nobody said the feature was even there. The workaround is certainly not provided by Google. You should complain that they left out OTG because they didn't design the device to have USB host capability in the first place.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Actually Google DID state that OTG was availible on the N4 but had to correct it when they found out the OTG hardware in the phone didn't support the needed 5VDC to run USB accessories.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
I'm probably the only guy around who does not understand why would one want to use USB-OTG devices with a phone
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Mass storage? Controllers?

A keyboard or mouse would just be silly unless you are projecting on a larger screen.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] khaytsus:
Nope, I'm right there with you. If I need a keyboard or a game controller; bluetooth. Dangling a mass storage device off a phone or tablet just seems ridiculous to me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
Storing 10+ GB of video/music on your phone/tablet seems ridiculous to me
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jejunum:
Really? Do you still have a dedicated mp3 for daily use?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
He's making a point, everyone has different uses for their N7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
I can't even remember the last time I downloaded an actual music or video file tbh

I stream EVERYTHING, but if I'm without wifi I don't see the problem in loading up some USB drives for local storage that you can watch via OTG. Makes more sense than keeping your local N7 disk space constantly filled up with files, running out of disk space, wondering why everything is lagging.

Pretty much this
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Is this a swappa listing for a 2nd gen? What are the letters for?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] memphian:
Somebody on reddit posted it. Might be his screen name, and today's date.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] javielillo:
I just hope it can be bought outside USA/Canada on the same launch day...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
Androidpolice got their hands on the new nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] danvee:
Too bad they didn't zoom in on the label...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
Apparently OfficeMax shipped the tablet out early to those that went in store and ordered it using the SKU.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lewythefly:
Sweet, i bet an abundance of information will flood the net about it now
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] theniusofg:
sure enough, best mp3 player $ can buy!

running rock box

for everything else just connect to a NAS (or similar) via cifs
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Have the specs been confirmed
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
Google sucks at keeping products a secret before launch.

Sent from my Nexus 4 LTE @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
I wish I was lucky like that guy
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] prestige777:
Looks like the back doesn't come off of the new nexus 7, which isnt necessarily a bad thing, most likely it is more solid and probably doesn't creak.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] BamAlmighty:
Blows my mind no one has confirmed the specs yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] streakthequad:
Android Police just confirmed S4 Pro and 2 gb RAM
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dustinhayes93:
Basicly a big nexus 4. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lewythefly:
Nothing wrong with that :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ravynmagi:
More would have been nice. But I have a Nexus 4 and am still pretty happy with it's performance. So I'd be happy to have that performance on a $270 32GB 7 inch tablet too. So I'm still excited.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] prestige777:
The S4 Pro doesn't Support DDR 3 as specified by the qualcomm website, so this has DDR 2 Ram which explains the underwhelming benchmark on android police.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
My s4 still wins....
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kenypowa:
Exactly. Nothing wrong with the internals. My N4 has never let me down.

That being said, this refresh is not that significant so I will be keeping my old Nexus 7 and wait for the one next year.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Considering my phone is more powerful, I'll stick to the first gen. I like how Apple gives their latest tablet the most processing power because tablets should always need more power than phones. Smart move on their half
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nbsss:
Damn...now I'm confused...I thought it was an easy choice, but that ram and CPU....

If they give us the sd600 next year ill be pissed
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
What!! 270 bucks vs my phone which was 350!! tablets are supposed to be waaay cheaper than phones because it doesn't have a radio for voice or data!!

jk, I'm going to get the tablet. I'm more than happy with my N4 so if the tablet performs the same I'll be happy.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] BRKotucs:
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/2...ready-live-through-best-buy-full-gallery-too/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ianmedina:
I'm planning to upgrade. im gonna sell my 1st gen nexus 7 ASAP!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
What kind of phone do you have?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
But...but where's the image of the tablet that looks like a "7" digit like on the current gen box?:(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] sgt. meow:
It does look like 7 in some fonts. Don't you guys think the bezel on the device on the box and the bezel on the actual device are not of the same size?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] theniusofg:
not that this matters much at this point, but according to best buy the dimensions are:

7.9x4.5x0.3" (200.66x114.3x7.62mm) vs the original N7 198.5x120x10.45mm (info from the play store)

this translates to a difference of

Length: + 2.16mm

Width: - 5.70mm

Height: - 2.83mm

which do not match the dimensions "backwards engineered" from the [MENTION=2199119]evl[/MENTION]eaks photos by gsmarena here

who's right? who knows? and more importantly who cares?

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you mean this guy?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
No, I mean this

If you look closely at the box, you can notice that the tablet on it resembles the number 7, it's a an easter egg by Google
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] bangawasawa:
So, according to a leak specs it will have Adreno 320 GPU(?) I'm not sure what this means for games... Will most previous games be compatible?

And one very important question, for me, will it be capable of better graphics than the iPad Mini?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] TheMrcool212:
Adreno 320 GPU is latest GPU's. Found in latest devices like Xperia Z, HTC One and Galaxy S4 i9505. As for comparison with iPad Mini, i think it will do better with it, we just need to wait how it performs.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 i9500
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Ipad mini will always win in gaming. Plus Adreno 330 is the latest
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] theniusofg:
yeah i saw that, i think the stock photos from the retail sites show look like 7 too. maybe its like those magic-eye posters some can see/some cant.

:shrug:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] swisstourist:
where can I see this Google presentation on streaming?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ianmedina:
the event will be live on youtube.....well im hoping for it =)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lewythefly:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/19016/20130723/google-press-event-live-stream-where-watch.htm
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nbsss:
Any idea if we'll get kernel 3.4 with our 4.3 update (original n7)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tylercarter:
Probably not.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nbsss:
So when do the kernels get updated? After a major release like 5.0?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] bangawasawa:
How about CPU performance? Isn't iPad Mini only dual core?

I'm a noob in this and would appreciate if someone could - at least theoretically - compare Ipad Mini with this new Nexus. I know it's not out yet but I am deciding between the two tablets and want to use it primarily for gaming.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Mrtoxicgamer10:
All new Nexus 7 wallpapers

Hello all, Here are all brand new wallpapers from the New Nexus 7

Download (click here to download) it and have fun :p

Hit Thanks button instead of posting Thanks reply
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
Look at the v2 wallpaper more closelyier
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
[YOUTUBE]v=PO2ZsvwRMuY&feature=youtube_gdata_player[/YOUTUBE]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PO2ZsvwRMuY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
I'm no expert, but as far as I know iOS does not require the same types of specs to have equal or better performance. iOS is not a resource intensive operating system, so comparing specs aren't going to translate in to real world use.

Just wait a week or so until they arrive in stores and test them both out for yourself. Each ecosystem is vastly different.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Aria807:
Does the Snapdragon S4 pack enough juice to push the 1920x1200 display? I remember that downfall with the TF700 ASUS Transformer Infinity. It pushed the TF300 just fine because it was only a 1280x768? resolution, but pushing 1920x1080 was pretty laggy.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Huh?

What's this?

Blue/white box? Rubber back panel like on Nexus 10? CRT animation?

Hmm...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
It's shaped like a 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Oh.. It's not as noticeable as with current gen box though
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] streakthequad:
Didn't those tablets pack the Tegra 3?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] IRX120:
I like the new one but I wish it was only 200$ , I doubt I can sell my current one for one than 120 with a case and dock

Sent from my Gnex@1.2 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Aria807:
They sure did. I sold mine cuz it wasn't smooth.

My gf has a Nexus 4 and that thing has the Snapdragon S4 Pro (same as the new Nexus 7), but it's pushing much less pixels (1280x768) than 1920x1200. The Nexus 4 is butter smooth and super fast. I just hope it's got enough juice to make the Nexus 7 feel the same.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] killa12222:
Just got announced at the press event with Android 4.3!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] theniusofg:
Bummer they just got done announcing the new 7. No gorilla glass in the spec sheet. Boo.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
4g model supports AT&T, Verizon, and T-mobile all in one model!!! I wonder how much.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pjpeter:
Please say LTE Hotspot Support out of the box - I leave on a trip on the 3rd of August - I sent my hotspot with my family on vacation and it burned out and this would be a great replacement for it and my current N7 combined :).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] manfio:
they announced in live direct in YouTube in this moment... And the new android 4.3
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
He didn't go into detail but I imagine since its running native android the hotspot feature will be accessible. Just a matter if your carrier can detect and throttle or block you. I have a verizon hotspot with sim from my galaxy nexus. Would be nice to slap the Sim into the N7. Probably no radios for voice though.

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Netflix 1080p support! combined with video out (slimport). Awesome!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] theniusofg:
Three models. 16GB Wi-Fi, 32GB Wi-Fi, and 64GB LTE. $229, $269, $349 respectively.

From the verge liveblog
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
Looks like Google Play will have it as the same time as Best Buy. I might as well drive drive over and pick one up to save waiting and $14 shipping since the Play Store has sales tax for some reason
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
I sold off my tabs and got $300 in my pocket. Considering 4G...

Don't know if I'd use it though. Plus 3G N7 didn't get lots of love. My 32gb N7 WiFi worked well. I travel so it would be nice to be able to just buy a 1month data if needed.

LTE in AOSP means good things.

What are the specs of the NN7? I missed the announcement.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] swisstourist:
50 grams lighter (not sure)

snapdragon s4

adreno 320

5mp cam.

50%more pixels.

color depth 30% better

and battery 1h more juice

correct?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
hmmm.... 350$, so LTE version didn't manage to not go over 300. In Russia it would probably cost 150$ more (350$ = ~10500 RUB plus AT LEAST 2 or 3000 thanks to the greedy retailers)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Bob Smith42:
I'm waiting for LTE version. Good enough price for what is offered.

In the meantime I ordered a Chromecast for $35 USD plus tax (NC, USA), shipping, total of $41.62.

Details:

Google has a stick computer.

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/

https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/

$35 + 3.99 shipping + 2.63 NC sales tax = $41.62

Shipping 2 August 2013, least expensive method Saver 5-10 days.

Ground 3-5 business is $7.99 plus higer tax, total $45.89

Two Day 2 business is $11.99 plus higher tax, total $50.16

It comes with 3 months of Netflix free. So that is about 8x3 = $24 value

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Wonder what band and coverage map is with Verizon. Interesting.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
I wouldn't call chrome cast a stick computer. Its more like a hub for streaming media. It is useless as a stand alone device.

Should be interesting to see what the Deva can do with it though. Wonder if it would support mirroring you tablet/phone/PC exactly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] pjpeter:
Unfortunately I found out the 3G Nexus 7 released late last year had the hotspot capability blocked - that's why I am worried about this one.

I also found out the LTE version won't be released until "Coming Weeks" I leave August 2nd so no way I can get it before then unfortunately. :/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] javielillo:
Google said "4G LTE"... "3G" compatibility is included? if 3G networks aren't supported in this new N7 then I'll go to the 32GB Wifi version :rolleyes:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Fstall303:
So no HDMI or slim port? Only a device we have to pay 35 pucks for and only runs on a few apps?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Of course there will be 3G, I think it's pretty obvious
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
No HDMI or MHL out. Slimport is unknown. Need the Manual or someone with the NN7.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
If there is no SlimPort, then what about OTG? I know that was a concern (mine as well).

The Chromestick is just basically a wireless receiver. I'm sure it'll grow as more apps become compatible. I'm sure some dev will figure out a way to send anything through it. I'd rather do this vs a wired solution (if it works properly).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
What are you talking about. In the event they said HDMI via slim port. Slim port is not an unknown. It works prefect on my N4, its been out for some time now.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
WHOA don't go ballistic on me. Thanks for clarifying that, the stream was cutting out on me a ton so I missed that part. So Slimport is a yes that's good. Hopefully OTG is good too.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
No mention of otg in the event.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Eddiejo6:
The old nexus had OTG so why would they cut that feature out all of a sudden?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Because they are going with the Slimport which the Nexus 4 had issues with (didn't provide 5v power). It was also disabled in the kernels. N4 Devs had to have a custom kernel to enable it, THEN required a Powered USB hub to get it to work. I don't think I want to do all that when I'm traveling.

But we really won't know until someone gets their hands on one and tests it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OJ in Compton:
I'm going to be extremely upset if this doesn't support USB OTG...all my needs are covered with this tablet and it would be the perfect one for me to use DSLR Controller with.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Eddiejo6:
I REALLY hope this isn`t the case because one of the main reasons I`m getting this tablet at all is OTG, so if they cut that out I`ll probably have to find another 7 Inch. :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
For how much can I drop my N7 3G with 3 scratches on the screen? I may do so somewhere in December and buy a new N7 instead (it's just too tasty.... Forgive me, Nexus :()
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] NY_HAMMER:
noob question.

Will MHL adapter work?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] heat361:
You'll need a slimport adapter.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
No MHL Adapters won't work with Slimport.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] biggiestuff:
noob answer. I don't know??

jk. It will not work. They went with slimport instead of MHL with the new nexus 7. That's a step up though considering the original didn't have support for either.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Just pre-ordered mine at Best Buy. So should receive it on launch day without the possibility of not getting one.