yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Matridom:
There won't be a recall. I've worked at a few large electronic companies and i've seen the trends all too often.

They will either

Unofficially tell people to suck it up (i9000 GPS issue)

fix it in a hardware revision and only replace faulty units under warranty as they come in (most common, - Intel CPU stepping, Motherboard revision # etc.)

Get sued via class action and be forced to cover the repair on an extended warranty basis and refund anyone who paid out of pocket for repairs (Lundell Settlement with Dell)

All of the above is always determined by profit. If the cost of the redesign is too expensive, they might just keep "fixing" it under warranty until the customer gives up. I've only ever seen a recall when public safety is an issue (Sony li-on batteries causing laptops to "explode")
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] alphadog00:
Terribly named thread. No evidence of a recall. And as mentioned, unless a device is a safety hazard it will not be recalled. Apple antenna gate was a real problem - result was a $5 bumper.

Please title your thread appropriately - the phone is not a lawn dart or a Pinto.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Dankchild:
I dropped my phone from about 3 feet off of the ground and it cracked from the capacitive menu button on the left all the way to the top right corner. And then regular use has made the screen shatter around the bottom. Incredibly weak screen. Thank god for black tie protection.:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] galaxyjeff:
I haven't stopped mine yet and hope I don't.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ahpaulsen:
My screen(lcd) cracked when i had the phone in my pocket. I only had the original flip-cover, so not the best protection.

And the flip-cover is not as solid as on the one for S3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] msn.debord:
I had my old HTC One XL bend and crack the plastic on the sides. AT&T said it was from dropping, but it was just in my pocket. I had screen bruising and antenna problems until it finally quit a couple months later..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] zaures:
Haha wow I had the exact same thing happen. My HTC One XL was in my pocket, took it out and it was randomly cracked. Never dropped it once. Weird
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] msn.debord:
Yeah, really sucked, this is the first other person I've seen with this issue. Not sure if that's good or bad..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] greenandroid.sb:
not a recall but an equivalent

There might not be a recall but I've broken my S4 screen with a 2 feet drop...wich shouldn't happen. My carrier wouldn't replace it, so didn't samsung customer care. I called Samsung repair center in Montréal and they told me to take a chance and send them the phone. (I'm from the beautifull Quebec City). Since I had to go to Montréal just across the street of Samsung (aka Ikea) I went for the express service 3hours 30$ and they repair your phone. The girl there told me that they had special instructions for the S4: if the phone is less than 90 days old they repair it on warranty. So 30$ and 3h later my S4 ha a brand new screen. Might not be a recall, but its close ...

(24h later the battery failled (low temp bug) and the carrier gave me a brand new phone for free no questions asked... :oP )
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] greenandroid.sb:
Any one tried? Did it work for you too? Let me know... and don't forgef to thank if it worked :cyclops:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] orlandoxpolice:
Nice try Samsung .... You aren't getting my loki phone back
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CLgcsi:
Maybe this explanation will help answer some questions for everyone. Manufacturers are now making the Display and Digitizer into one piece under the physical glass that you touch. The top layer of glass on the phone, or at least most new phones (S4/S3/Iphone5/Droid Razr) is truley nothing more than a piece of glass. There is no touch function in this glass, nothing bonded to it. Instead what they are doing is using an "optical adhesive" between said glass and the digitizer which is underneath to give proper spacing and touch response. In my own experience in repairing the galaxy s3 GLASS ONLY versus the s4 GLASS ONLY is that the digitizer and amoled assembly on the s3 is much thicker than on the s4. The s4 digitizer/Amoled combo is thinner than the glass on top of it. it is actually thinner than the top flip portion of the flip/smart cover. While removing the glass heat is used which is generally not an issue if properly controlled on an s3. On the s4 however it caused the whole assembly to lift from the mid plate and caused the digi/led combo to crack at the bottom. It seems the issue is how damn thin this display is and the fact that it is not either properly secured to the mid plate or the adhesive is just not cutting it. I highly doubt that there will be any such "recall" with samsung, i do believe that they will take an approach more like apple does with non apple care customers with damaged screens. If there is more than 1 crack and any physical damage they will not honor replacing the device, even at a lower cost than an off contract phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rmk463345:
rynagme threshed

I heard about this problem, and solved it by purchasing the Otter Box Defender case. I accidentally dropped my S4 from the top of an 8ft ladder, onto concrete, at work and the screen is still perfect. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ethem11:
I used my s4 at night and it was working perfectly fine but when i woke up in the morning there was a pink line from top to bottom. everything was working but there was tiny pink line. I sent the phopne to samsung and they fix it free. I think some of them has problem. I did not drop the phone before i took care of it very well but it happened.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] topnotch4004:
Its time to act & what we need to do, is to work together so that we tackle this problem the right way.

My phone has suffered the same problem - cracked LCD under the unbroken gorilla glass. I took my phone out of my pocket whilst out shopping and it wouldn't light up. It still worked, as I received a text message and heard the appropriate tone to confirm this, but the screen was 99% black with the odd pixel lit up.

The point is that under warranty, a product should be repaired, replaced or a refund given if it breaks under 'NORMAL USE'. Key words I think in this fight against Samsung. I have now paid £150 for the screen to be replaced and I would like to see that money returned to me and anyone else who has had to fork out a load of cash for this manufacturing design flaw.

Has Samsung misled the public? Advertising that the phone is built using Gorilla glass implies the phone is hard wearing & even with regular glass, the issues we've been reading about should not be happening. A little bit of background about me, I make tiny targets which are usually very thin foils and carefully machined metal parts, which are shot with ultra-intense high-powered lasers to understand the complex physics of electron transfer, ion acceleration, nuclear fusion and other such interstellar phenomenon. Some of the coatings that I have produced actually break themselves apart because the internal stress of the foil is so high. Foils that don't break themselves apart but still have high levels of internal stress are basically prepped and ready to break with the smallest force, whether it be a twist or a knock etc. This seems to ring a chord with the galaxy S4 LCDs which I believe are either not annealed sufficiently (stress relieving process) or in simpler terms are simply too fragile for use in a commercial public sector industry.

What I would like to do, is write these thoughts down in a more concise manner and then send letters to Samsung, mobile phone operators, the industry watchdog and finally the newspapers/media so that this problem can be brought to halt before more customers are caught up in this mess. What we need is a strategy. Presumably the industry watchdog should be the first to independently test these LCDs and report findings, numbers should be obtained about the number and proportion of screens being sent back for repair/replacement and a decision should be made as to legal action. Perhaps a website should be setup specifically to see this through, as a central point for all discussions, to display findings and for advice to those new to this issue. There's a lot think about, but we have to all work together to get it done.

Frank

frank.hall.16906 on Facebook
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chuchu6316:
exactly the same problem - and I don't wear tight jeans ...

Totally agree Frank

LCD just stopped working 10 days ago. Shipped to Samsung a week ago. After a week they decided to charge me $200 for the fix, saying there are internal (LCD) cracks. They consider this a physical damage, which is not covered by the warranty. Not a single scratch on the glass or bezel, never dropped it. The Verizon rep said I may have pressed the (touch) screen too hard... I am a pretty easy user on my personal phone, don't play hard games. Had over 50 touch phones so far (family & work) some have been used pretty massively as we were developing multi-touch mobile applications, never saw this phenomena before.

Let me now how I can help.

Meir
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattwheat:
I used to run a Moto RAZR HD MAXX on Verizon and busted the screen once from pulling a semi hard rubber (gel skin design) cover off and the phone flexed and cracks spidered down the phone under the top layer. Wasn't noticeable when screen on but off it looked horrible. After my research I found the same rumors. But nothing transpired.. Ins. Got me a new RAZR MAXX and I dropped it from knee height and it busted. My SGH-I337 has hit the ground a dozen times or more resulting in dings and scratches on 3 of the 4 corners of the chrome look alike plastic ring, and still has yet to bust it. I went caseless for a while cuz I liked the sleek profile. But now I use a rubber tpu style cover that's softer rubber around the bumper edges and harder clear rubber on the back and have yet to drop it....Go figure .. But I doubt they would recall what I'm assuming could be millions of phones. Probably just rumors like I experienced with the RAZR HD.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Hawkinz:
My LCD broke when it was in my pocket ? It was in the front pocket so I never sat on it. I ended up fixing it myself after buying at 220$ digitizer...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iceman4357:
Add my S4 to the list of cracked screens for no reason. I pulled mine out of my pocket yesterday and there is a crack in the top right corner. I did not drop the phone, it was just in my pocket. It didnt crack the AMOLED screen, only the gorilla glass but frustrating either way. Makes me seriously consider the new HTC M8 with screen replacement warranty.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] vERax_92:
Hello:

There is some way to have the option key and the back key in the screen like the samsung galaxy nexus?

Thanks.

PD: I am chilean, my english its not soo good :D
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] MrJellybean:
No. Also it was use quite an amount of screen if done. You can use apps(require root ) to mimmick the virtual buttons. They will just form a overlay at the bottom which can be hidden at will. One which I use is: Virtual Button Bar

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Khalsa4G:
Hey all, debating between these two and can't really find any new reviews or comparisons between them. I know nova is more widely used but the new apex looks pretty good as well. What do you recommend?

Swyped via my Samsung GALAXY S4 using xda premium
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
I've always had smoother performance and less trouble with Nova.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Azure Dragon:
Hmm.. Nova is beautiful, really customizable and smooth on my Nexus 7. SmoothROM + Franco kernel. :)

Does anyone want to give me a key for it? Haha.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] aw1974:
I used Nova on my S3 and started having a stutter when scrolling to a home page full of widgets. It was the same on my S4 so I tried Apex and haven't looked back. Buttery smooth.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] daoom:
I've tried both, and preferred (and fewer problems with) Nova.

Nova is what I have running right now on my S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] GeorgeP:
I have paid versions of both. They both have some advantages over the other, but I use Apex because the transitions are just a bit smoother,
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bjray:
Apex here. Love it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Planktron:
Using nova Prime and never had a stutter. Even before the OTA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Khalsa4G:
Argh so torn. I'm using both right now to see what I like better. Not the paid versions yet just the regular.

Thanks for all your feedback.

Swyped via my Samsung GALAXY S4 using xda premium
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] JJ5150:
Nova Pro does a little more than Apex Pro... I have both loaded anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raqball:
Nova Prime here...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] spidernel:
Apex here. Both are great, but apex is more touch sensitive IMO. (At least on my phone, and I guess the performance is device and rom dependent)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] RiNo808:
Another for Nova prime...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] PearsonDKA:
Nova Prime here. Silky smooth since day one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Cusa:
Nova prime all the way!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] xchr1583x:
Another vote for Apex Pro
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bharatgoyal:
Apex .. coz apex has more features .. tried nove but moved back to apex
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
Apex has always givenme lag problems. Especially on this phone. Nova just seems like a smoother experience.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Dranakin:
I'm using Nova now. Everything works great, especially after disabling all the useless stuff.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] treelover3:
I used Nova Prime for quite a while but it really started to lag so I switched to Apex Pro. Apex Pro has absolutely no lag on my current phone.

The only thing I don't like about Apex is that when l use the Any Cut app Apex doesn't render the icon pic in the center of the icon the correct size. :(

tl3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
Can't you just edit icons with Apex? I know I can with Nova.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] treelover3:
Any Cut puts a standard icon pic of a green old-fashioned phone hand-set in the center of the icon. All of the other launchers I've ever used have rendered the pic the correct size (ADW EX, Holo, Nova, Go), but Apex shows a small close-up of the center of the icon pic.

There is no way to adjust the size if the pic in the center of the icon that I can find.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] azz72:
I like them both.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bharatgoyal:
Apex only coz it has playstore shortcut in app drawer just like aosp. And nova doesnt have that . I dont really like those 3 dots .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
In Nova. Go to Drawer and hit the soft key menu button. Guess what's there?? I never use those 3 dots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] oak:
Apex Pro. I like the feature set better. Both are great though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Jonny9874:
Apex is the best !

Sent from my Note
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] polish_pat:
I had nova for years, literally since the original nexus i think. I always thought it was the best, and it was one fo the best, but recently when i got my S4, i also got a 35$ Playstore Credit and i bought apex just for fun, to try it out. I love it. Its similar to nova, but a lot more customization options, its also smoother and snappier on my S4 than nova was.

Nova is awesome, but Apex is better than awesome, its excellent
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sameer1807:
Haven't used apex since my s2 days but nova is exceptional. If you disable tw launcher and have nova as primary, u will notice lag is nonexistent. Also, soo much customization aside from stock tw.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] royr719:
It's funny to see how some people seem to experience lag with one launcher or the other. I used Apex Pro for months I'm I was really happy with it, but this few days I've been playing with Nova Prime and it's really smooth! I don't know if lagging is because of the time I had it installed but though both are very similar, I'll definitely will keep using Nova.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] webbie2:
I have been using Nova Launcher Pro for a long time. I even still use it on Task650 AOKP ROM. I love it. I have a friend that swears by Apex but I have never changed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Kyuta Syuko:
Haven't really messed with Nova. Been using Apex for a while and I've had no issues with it and thus no reason to try anything else. Apex does what I want and allows me to customize it the way I want so I'm happy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mixlex:
nova vs. apex

nova is smoother for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] joeybear23:
ADW Launcher all the way. I got the premium version of this for .10 when Google celebrated a birthday, and I have used it for the Captivate, SGSII and now the SGS4. It's smooth and just works.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] NDELEON:
Apex

Take a look at what Apex has to offer.

Apex combined with this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.go.launcherex.theme.kxnt.glasklart&hl=en Glaskart theme is simply awsome
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] lilbigdude1:
Mine was Apex, until I found Smart launcher which is 100 times better.

So my vote is for Smart launcher.

You fight, for the guy fighting next to you.

AT&T SGH-I337 32G
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] markbc01:
Used both, both are great but I just really like the feel of Nova (Prime) a bit better.

I forget if Apex has as a good a backup / restore function as Nova, but having that in a launcher is a life saver when switching roms. . . TIBU step one and Nova restore step two and life is great :silly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] IgnitedBeast:
Apex
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cybershawngates:
Another good one is holo launcher hd. Transparent app catalog background and peristent google now search bar are some highlights and looks like stock android
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sblar:
It looks like a tie

Does any of the pro/prime versions have a gesture feature for dock icons, so that you can have two apps behind one icon - like Launcher Pro?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] markbc01:
Nova allows you to put folders on the dock...

It's that what you mean?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sblar:
No, I meant the ability to assign a second action on a dock icon, for a gesture. Actually both Nova and Apex supports that in the Pro/Prime versions. You can even assing different actions for swipe up and swipe down and thereby have three actions per icon :)

I ended up with Apex, and are so far very pleased with the result.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sordna:
Nova Prime does have the ability to assign 1 swipe action (swipe up) to any icon on the desktop. So you can make your firefox icon launch chrome if you swipe it up instead of tapping it. So you got 2 actions per desktop icon. How well does swiping down work on Apex far that? Doesn't it interfere with the notification bar? You may want to drag down the notification bar and you launch an unwanted app instead, or vice versa? Does that problem happen?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sblar:
Apex has both a swipe up and a swipe down action so you can have three actions per icon - very cool.

No problems with interfering with the notification bar, actually no problems at all ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sordna:
Cool. Now that I re-read your previous post, you mentioned the dock. Are you able to assign swipe icons only to the dock icons (the lower row of icons on the home screen) or to any icon on the home screen? Nova Prime allows it on all icons anywhere on the home screen (both dock icons and what it calls desktop icons).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sblar:
In Apex, it's only for dock icons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sordna:
Ok, so it's a wash, one has 2 swipe actions for dock only, the other 1 swipe action but for both dock and desktop icons.

The thing I actually miss on Nova compared to Apex, is the iOS style folders that show you 9 app icons. If you have many folders it's useful to see more of what's in them just by looking at the folder icon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Advali:
Both of them run smooth on my HTC One, but when it comes to customization, I'll have to go with Nova. Nova allows me to edit the icons from the application drawer while with Apex, I could only edit the app icon and name from the homescreen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Wittyusernametaken:
Nova behaved odd. Icon names on top of one another, widgets flickering. So then tried Apex and no issues so I like this one much better
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
Never had a problem with Nova. It also seems to get more updates. I've been using it since it arrived in the Play Store.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I use Nova Prime, and I have never been happy when trying to get Apex setup like Nova is.. It's all preference but i prefer Nova and I always have. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hovax615@hotmail.com:
I use nova prime. I had some problems with it at first like I would set it to launch instead of TW and I would close a bunch of apps then clear the memory and it would jump me back to TW. But lately I haven't had any problems with it. Its very fast and a very clean launcher.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] cybershawngates:
Theres also holo luqnacher hd...this one is fast and rock stable
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] JJ5150:
Nova is better. I'm also using launcher, pretty cool.

Sent from dat.killer.SGS4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Baldilocks:
Holo is nice, just not enough customization options for me yet.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Br4nd3n:
I've used both and noticed I had better performance with Nova on my 1337. I'm on task650 with kt's kernel. Nova doesn't seem to have any speed issues, especially of you set all the animations to "faster than light" in Nova's settings and disable animations in developer options. Nova gets updated more often it seems too.

Both offer great features and work well though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] trveller72:
I started 3 years ago with Apex, butI tried Nova a few times (reason being the good reviews).

I never managed to configure Nova (free) the same as Apex.

In the free version there are a few important extras missing (one of them being 'gestures')
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] infogeick:
Nova Prime all the way along with Missed It for Unread Counts. There is also a new one now named THEMER which has themes that resemble OS7 and give that kindah feel