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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] purple lady:
I just saw on engadget that "the Nexus 7 LTE will not support CDMA (read: 3G service) on Verizon".

I use ATT so I don't care about that, I just want LTE NOW!

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/24/google-new-nexus-7-lte-headed-to-att-verizon-tmobile/?utm_medium=feed&utm_source=Feed_Classic&utm_campaign=Engadget
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
As for OTG support the guy that has the new tablet right now on Reddit, has mentioned he was unable to get anything to work. Keyboard doesn't work, though USB drive lights up but nothing shown.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] lolcopter:
Weird
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OJ in Compton:
Do you have a link to this poster?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Sorry here is the link.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1ixo6i/ask_me_anything_about_the_new_nexus_7_tablet/
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Probably the same design as that on the N4
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Has anyone with the N4 come up with something to get OTG to work? Just curious.

Or is there a slim port adaptor that allows for a USB connection to the device?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I know I laughed so hard when he Specifically said Verizon LTE with no mention of CDMA. This is another Slap in the Face of Verizon.

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Here you go.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2151159
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Cool thanks... so it is possible in a round about way and a very specific way.

Sucks since I did a kick starter on this http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta to get a little extra space onto a device easily (Phone/Tablet).
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Well the fact that the USB Device lit up seems to show that it is getting power. that is a good sign.

We need to know which Model Slimport Transmitter is used. The ANX7805 I believe is the one in the N4. The Newest one is the ANX7808 that allows OTG.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Can someone post a link on how to flash if you're not rooted?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Indeed. I hope... only time will tell and hopefully its good really looking forward to the device and ready to retire my TF700.

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Flash what? The device isn't really in anyone's hands yet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
Yes. A powered USB hub works. Problem is that the output supplied by the microusb of the N4 isn't powerful enough for USB otg cable.

Just Google Nexus 4 OTG and you should find everything you need to know.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nexusmanftw:
Flash 4.3 on the wifi nexus 7 1st gen...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OJ in Compton:
Thanks man.

Can somebody with a reddit account ask him to install USB Host Diagnostics from the market? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.usbhostdiagnostics
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] andAsh:
Yes, I have sent a message asking him to do that... Will see if he replies.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] andAsh:
Huge thanks to lucky xQcKx!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] michaelg1030:
What does this tell us? So it supports USB host? Does this mean OTG should work?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
So that is saying that it is supported and detected. Does the device need to be rooted to make it work?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] andAsh:
So far the owner couldn't get any usb device to work. Some show signs of life by lighting up however.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Sounds like it is blocked. It will probably need to be tweaked since the old apps were for the old N7 etc. It wasn't designed for the slimport controller.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] rmm200:
OK -no gorilla glass. Anyone heard if headsets are supported? The microphone input is needed for use as a credit card station. My biggest worry is otg support. I use my tablet to program my arduinos.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] inkogneetoe:
Deathman I'm thinking the same...... What do you think about the size downgrade to 7"?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Size downgrade isn't that bad. Only thing is watching the movies/TV shows. But it wasn't bad when I had the nexus fit the few days I played with it. The original that is.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
I still can't believe Google changed the elegant gray boxes for Nexus devices to some rainbowy blue one
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] NY_HAMMER:
staples.com online use code 41178 for $30 off.

HTH
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vfreeze_31:
Any way to get 1 to Australia???
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nbsss:
Took me ages to research and find the best method, but i've ordered now.

Amazon and CGW to australia. Total cost including shipping for 16gb model approx. $286 AUD.

Should arrive in 5-7 days. See http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44000084&postcount=209
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
On another note with the new tablet. Battery drains far less quickly.

Sitting at 1% every 2 hours and 29 min in deep sleep over night with Wi-Fi on. Not bad at all, beats my other one by double on a good day or 4 to 5 times longer on average.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] whoamanwtf:
I hooked a 64gb usb to mine and viewed the contents, haven't tried any further.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deathman20:
Was just stating basically that the Tegra 3 was a battery hog
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DT84:
The Nexus 7's version of APQ8064 has 4x Krait 300 cores, not Krait 200, so it's an underclocked Snapdragon 600, more than a normal S4 Pro.

That proves that I was right, I've always said it was a Snapdragon 600, the S4 Pro can't handle low-power DDR3 RAM.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7176/nexus-7-2013-mini-review/4

Not much of a difference, but I'm happy they've chosen the most recent version of the chipset.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Lumianti:
There's another difference between s4 pro and s600: s600 has memory prefetch buffers which might be useful however add a bit more to the power drain. I couldn't tell from the pictures if this chip has them, though. Maybe Google/Asus wanted less stress on the battery since it's not that big after all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
I was happy with just the S4 Pro and thinking it was just a big Nexus 4. I'm even happier with my purchase now that this info is coming out
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] cobyman7035:
Is there Franco kernel for new nex7?

Via my Acer Iconia A200 on xda premium app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] isharra:
Not yet though I'd check in the Nexus 7 (2013) section in the coming days.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I don't see the point of a rear camera, especially since they always put junk cameras on the tablets anyway
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ArmorD:
So the pricing will be the same. Thank god I didn't get my N7 yet! Hopefully the 32gb version will too be 250$

Sent from my panda
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] daLareid:
Of course I do, what I mean by 2nd Gen Nexus 10 is that it would be it's successor, +1 inch and beefier.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] atoz350:
I like my current Nexus 7, but the Qi charging is a nice addition for me. I'm building a float mount to dock it into my auto dash. Adding Qi wireless charging would eliminate the drilling and sanding that I have to do to install and align the pogo dock. Major convenience for removal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I really hope they just keep the same name and refer to it as the second generation nexus 7. At any rate I won't buy it, I mean I could definitely use more speed but the original is still going to be getting updates for at least another year. To some extent I think it's too soon for a hardware revision. A year later and still no real competition for $200. Only thing that comes close is the Kindle fire hd with forked android and no gps or nfc and the hp slate 7 with a low res screen, no gps or nfc, and a slower chipset.

Personally the current nexus 7 is outdated hardware wise compared to its 2 sister devices so it would make more sense to update all 3 at the same time in the fall.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] turdbogls:
I never though of this....but you are right. While i still think there will be an updated N7, there really isn't any competition in the 7" market right now.

my only thoughs are that apple is going to release another mini with i higher res screen and faster processor ect. so Google would like to get the jump on the smaller tablet market. releasing something amazing for $200 would help a lot. plus the 1 year between new hardware that EVERYONE is following makes me believe we will see the next N7.

maybe keep selling the 1st Gen for like $100/$150 or something. that would be SICK and no one would be able to touch the tablets. bring in more devs for more tablet specific apps. hhhhhmmmmmmmmm
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] jetbruceli:
I doubt they will lower the price of the nexus 7 but maybe start the new one at about 250$ for a 16gb model.

Then phase out the n7 for the newer nexus 7.

Besides I don't think there is too much to improve on because the software scene isn't as up to date as the hardware. So our beloved nexus 7 is still ahead of its time for true performance.

Developers make apps for what is available to all not just the small amount of snapdragon owners out there.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I'm wondering what will become of the current nexus 7 after they release the second gen. The galaxy nexus was pretty much just erased from Google's site after the nexus 4 launch, however it never was a hit amongst the masses so I imagine whatever stock they had was little and probably just sent back to Samsung where they were given a new shell, and a touchwiz rom and rebranded as some galaxy crap model for some third world country.

The nexus 7 however won't be so easily erased. It's a hit. In fact I'd wager it's easily the most popular nexus device ever. Its a different market, the phones have to compete against other flagship devices and typically have limited availability, or require paying in full for them, the nexus 7 however is sold like any other consumer electronic. I imagine Google still probably has a hefty supply of them and if they don't, retail stores do. Probably will be able to find plenty of good deals on the current model after the second generation drops.

But that being said it probably won't be as good as we want. If the rumored specs are true, $100 would be a fair price, but you'll probably have trouble finding the nexus 7 for less than $150
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Zer0K3wL:
Considering this tablet 1920x1200 would be damn nice.

nothing known about amount ram yet or how big batery.

or what key lime pie all gonna bring maybe its purely focused on batery life improvement for quadcore devices.

hopefully we known soon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
No. Google would be smart to release a tablet at various intervals. If they release a new 7 and 10 at the same time, it'll cut into each others sales. Plus Google needs to get a jump on an HD 'retina' 7" because you know Apple will have one this year.

With the specs leaked out already and the IO in 2 days, I'd say its a safe bet we'll have a new N7 on our hands soon.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I disagree, it's annoying how much faster my 4 is than my 7 even though they are considered the same generation. I looked up fragmentation in the dictionary and Waddayaknow? There was a picture of the current nexus line!

Besides the 4 and the 10 were released the same time. The 4 isn't taking away 10 sales, the lazy developers that don't want to take 5 minutes to optimize their apps for 10 inch tablets are.

Really how would they hurt eachothers sales anyway? Thats 2 different markets. Me for instance, I got no interest in a 10 inch tablet, I really don't want a bigger screen on my Nexus 7 either, I love the 7 inch form factor, 10 inch feels to much like a laptop. However others feel that 7 inch is too small. The nexus 7 and 10 don't compete against eachother, not at all.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dmonger11b:
If it supports hspa+ and has the headphone and bluetooth audio issues fixed I'll buy one first day. If not than hopefully the first gen prices will drop.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] filipathtc:
If the new nexus 7 comes I'll sell my old nexus and buy the new one.But how much is a used nexus 7 (16gb no scratches) worth?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] metaldood:
I am going to skip this update and wait for next year's version. The current configuration is pretty good and will get updates till next year.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Yeah I think the extra power would be nice but last year I shelled out $200 tax return time wanting a tablet and bought a refurbished HTC Flyer and ended up being so disappointed in it I cut my losses and sold it as well as an old MS Zune and my psp to get a nexus 7. I don't want to fall into the "I have to upgrade my tablet every year" trap and I gotta get real here, if htc would of just continued to update the thing past honeycomb I wouldn't of gotten rid of it so fast anyway. 2 years of updates was the biggest selling point for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] So_Wavy:
pass
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] reg6ft3:
Amazing that no one has been able to leak the form factor of the new nexus 7 unless I've missed it. LOL!!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] darkic:
Top Secret:)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] prestige777:
If this doesn't ship with the Snapdragon 800 than I'll probably just wait for a tablet that does. The S4Pro is maxed out at 1.7ghz and uses about the same amount of battery as the 2.3ghz 800. If you get similar battery life with the 800 as is, imagine underclocking it.

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A new Snapdragon series processor will arrive from Qualcomm this coming summer, the company announced during its keynote presentation at the Consumer Electronics Show Monday. The new processor, named the 800 series, “delivers 75 percent better performance” than its predecessor, the Snapdragon S4 Pro, while consuming less battery life. A quote from arstechnica.com

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This would be awesome with the 800 and just meh with the S4Pro imho. I would pay $300-350 for this with the 800 if it came to that, in a heartbeat.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] CrazyPeter:
Why what's wrong with your Nexus7 now?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 5c4r7:
still no expandable storage eh?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
The s4 pro is quite an upgrade over a tegra 3. Honestly doubt anyone would be able to tell the difference in real world usage between the 600 and 800
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Dark Spark:
Just imagining after all the discussion and rumors, in the end google does not say anything about a new nexus 7 :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] OllieArmageddon:
So basically, same specs as my HTC One?

Any ideas on screen res yet?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Won't happen. Ever again. Only nexus device that had an sd slot was the first one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phillip1953:
I'd rather look at a 7" tablet screen than a little 3 or 4 inch camera screen... ESPECIALLY if it's a cheap digi-cam.

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gc84245:
Who cares what you look like taking pictures, only thing that matters is that you get good pictures. But I don't see the point of including a camera unless it is at least half decent, because chances are if you have a tablet then you also have a smartphone or at least a cheap point and shoot. The camera on my iPad sucks so much that I haven't taken any pictures with it (except for a few test shots). That being said, 5MP is not bad.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DroidRunner:
The digital camera fits into your pocket. Or if you don't have one, use your cell. A 7inch tablet is a pain to carry around.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
I hope it has the magnetic screen switch in the same place so I can reuse my existing case...

or

they come out with some kinda smart case. MS and Apple both have one now on their tablets.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ignitionnight:
I just filed an RMA on my first gen N7 because of the screen raising issue. Now I can sell that for 150-175, then I can buy the 2nd gen and upgrade for fairly cheap.

Somewhat off topic question, If I don't return the charger and the cord when I send in my current N7 will they charge me?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Grogck:
I wouldn't mind a slightly larger screen - say 7.7" That slightly larger real estate is nice for things like movies, etc and gives a bit more of a buffer with so many phones now moving up to ~5" screens.

My biggest hope though is that they fix the speakers. The speaker on the current version is pathetic and most of the volume boosters seemed to break post 4.2
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] nolook:
same plan as me I suspect lots of people are doing this...I have screen flickering too in addition to minor screen lift

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] vietkao:
My nexus 7 is still working superb... And I'm really concerned about the battery life as well, a HD screen and 2 cameras would suck the energy out of that smaller battery real fast...

So I'm waiting to get feedback from others before considering buying a new one. M
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] prestige777:
A 600Mhz difference is huge, obviously everyone will be able to tell the differene, there is a big difference in battery life as well. As far as benchmarks go the Tegra 3 overclocked to 1.7ghz to match the S4 wouldn't be that far off, so yeah in that regard nobody will be able to tell much of a difference between the Tegra 3 and the S4.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
My Nexus 4 is so fast I really can't imagine anything being faster. Animations are iphone smooth, and apps open nearly instantly. Hard to imagine any better specs can make android noticeably faster, but then again when I got my vivid with a dual core snapdragon s3 and 1gb of ram I felt the same way.

I mean I'm definitely for the newer chipset, it makes it more future proof. Big issue with the current nexus 7 is it came out in mid 2012 with the best chipset from late 2011. The snapdragon s4 dual core was out benching tegra at the time.

Honestly I believe the only reason it has tegra 3 is because it was supposed to be a budget Asus slab and they just left the internals the same.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Yeah I think they outta do dual front speakers kinda like the 10 and htc one. As for screen size, I'm happy with the 7 inch but with the large bezel it's sporting now they could easily make it larger and keep the same foot print.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jeff_in_LA:
For all the people saying "Mine is fine.. I'm not getting it'' bla bla bla"

You're going to be ebaying yours and getting this. I see this every time an upgrade comes out.

The fact that you are on XDA shows you are hardcore.

Embrace it!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gc84245:
Nice!

Sent from XDA app
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Flippy125:
This made me lol a little too hard. People are probably thinking I'm crazy sitting here laughing to myself before finals
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Not going to lie, disappointed in the performance of the current model after the 4.2 update, so the idea has crossed my mind. Having a tablet that's as fast as my phone would rock.

At the same time, money, don't have it so it probably won't happen :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] big gulps huh?:
Only way I would upgrade is if they release a 32gb for $199 and if I am able to get at least $180 for my current 32gb... Likely won't happen. (I am broke at the moment...)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Hour into io and no mention of a new tablet or android version for that matter. Only device they announced was a Google Galaxy s4 for the play store

Since they already mentioned a product, I don't think it's happening.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phillip1953:
Which explains why I see so many people with tablets. :) I tried to explain why someone (me) would want to use a 7" table as a camera, and you respond that I should use a digital camera or a cell phone because a 7" tablet is too big?

Thanks for your opinion, but I'll stick with wanting a nice camera in a 7" tablet. Why? Because of the better veiwfinder.

Or...maybe I should go back to 110. Those are even smaller than a cell phone. Most 110's had great viewfinders as well (sarcasm :) )

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DroidRunner:
OK. I'll take amazing pics with my digital camera and you can stick with a decent camera for Instagram. :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phillip1953:
How's that LTE speed on the N4 working out for you? :)

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
I came from an lte phone I don't see what all the fuss is about. More speed than you even need and it's ruined by a stupid 2gb cap, and it drained my battery badly. I was hard pressed to get 8 hours on my stupid HTC Vivid, and it wasn't too uncommon for my phone to overheat and shut off while streaming music. Only real point of lte is to show off speed test scores. For everyday usage, I don't notice a difference in speed on hspa+, I usually get 12mb down which is what my home Internet is. Do you really need more speed than your home Internet on the phone?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] phillip1953:
OK. You win the internet opinion race.

I'd like to have a decent camera in my table because I have it with me....ALWAYS. I like the larger viewfinder that a 7" allows. It's called an opinion. It's not debatable. :)

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D

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12mb non LTE? Damn!! I agree with you about the speeds. My home internet hovers around 40-50 Mbps. I don't need that speed on a phone, but I'd like it faster than what I have....Sprint (but no data cap) with a screaming fast 3g of 1....maybe 3 Mbps. 4g gives me 5-6 (on a good day). LTE isn't up and running (fully) in the Portland/Vancouver area so I'm waiting....and waiting...and :)

Sent via my Nexus 7, Amiga 3000 or HTC EVO 3D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] skyrocket727:
so much API at Google i/o no hardware announcements except google's S4 edition. What about next generation of Nexus 7? 1GB or ram is killing the whole joy :D
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
Yeah I keep forgetting cdma doesn't have the luxury of hspa+, supposedly the nexus 4 is capable of as high as 42meg depending on what kind of 3G connection you got. Yeah you really don't miss lte.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Qbancelli:
Google I/O keynote is almost over and not even a hint of a new Nexus device.

I'm starting to get nervous.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] PVL_93_RU:
Dude, we still have almost an hour left 'till I/O ends, relax
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Cor-master:
They are doing q&a. God dammit it's over! and we're all still on crappy 4.2 with project molasses and all!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Grogck:
Unless they announce it quietly afterwards (or in the QA) it's looking like nothing for the moment. Most of the rumors seemed to indicate that it wouldn't go on sale until July so they may be waiting until they can ship before they officially announce.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Qbancelli:
It is 3:03pm. Can I start to get nervous now?

I've only waited for a new Nexus 7 for a FRIGGING YEAR!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] tonyt3rry:
can't believe I've been watching this since 5pm

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I don't think it's gonna happen maybe this white nexus will just appear randomly like Google have done in the past
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Qbancelli:
Worst Google I/O as far as I'm concerned.

No OS upgrade and no devices? Really?

FAIL!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Grogck:
They said this one was going to be more developer-oriented. Guess we should've listened.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ynrozturk:
Lots of cool and useful software updates, however. In a way I am a bit glad there are no new phones announced, as I don't want Google to run into the Apple syndrome - releasing the same product seven times with minimal updates. I'd rather wait for something substantial.