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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
OTA update performance increase:

Before update was 24856 (AnTuTu)

Quadrant:

Old vs New

Lowest RAM usage was 685MB (972MB on I337UCUAMDB)

Can't wait to overclock this beast :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Dan just gave the all clear that this OTA does not effect the bootloader hacker and we are clear for updating, but still, as soon as you OTA I would refreeze your OTA files until the next one is released and cleared :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
I used the op method to block update. Then I just reverted so I could take the update. The update downloaded, but it won't install.... Do I need to unroot first?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Usually not installing has to do with a missing file or if you removed something from system/app usually not related to root as the update just removes root I thought
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
All I did was remove the. bak and rebooted... Hmm
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Titanium backup your files and do a factory reset before you OTA to ensure all your framework and apps are stock and capable of being updated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
will do , thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cnewsgrp:
Did it work for you? I had same issue. Update downloaded and failed to install. Now its asking me to wait 24 hours
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
Gunna try when I get home, I'm still at work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
didnt work, even tried unrooting and factory reset, no dice :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] luigic81:
finally got it to install, had to odin back, unroot and then took the update. Bad news it , my Titanium backup has no backup files?? WTF?

My only guess is that somehow it stored the backup files to my phone storage instead of sd card??? And when I did factory reset it erased it? I did not format my sd.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] malefactor:
has there been another OTA in the last day or two (dated 5-11-2013 or later), above and beyond the one Dan confirmed to be safe to apply? (some threads kinda maybe suggested this. I don't have my dvc yet) Is there a place these are cataloged so we can know which will be safe to install, such that we do not lose ability to unlock bootloader?

I would not expect AT&T to be nimble enough to release multiple OTAs <1week apart. (but I am not taking chances.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
The elite guys already said the update was safe...go read that complete thread...besides you can odin back to the original if need be correct or no? And you can re-root after the update also...works well. I hate att, I just moved over from tmo too...i have no doubt that soon we will have an unlocked BL. Someone close to att will spill the beans soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cataloochee:
When I purchased my 32G S4 at my local AT&T store on the on June 6th the update referred to was automatically installed when my SIM card was put in the phone and it was turned on in the store. I came home and used the Motochopper hack and the phone rooted no problem.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I think this thread is confusing the updates. If you look at the dates of the posts, many of them are about the AMDL firmware update which was safe to take OTA from AT&T. The upcoming update is the BMEA update that AT&T has not yet released. The BMEA ROMs made for AT&T S4s are hybrids that include many of the BMEA enhancements from the International release that have been injected into the AMDL firmware. This allows for the updates in a safe way.

When AT&T releases the BMEA firmware update as an OTA, IT WILL NOT BE SAFE! Do not update you phone from it at all. Only flash ROMs that the Devs have made from the BMEA update. Many warnings have already been posted so there is no excuse if anybody screws their phone up by taking the OTA when it is released.

This will stand until the OTA is released and it is confirmed as unsafe or safe by noted Devs...which has not happened yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bengali548:
how would the people who are rooted get this update?

is it possible to get a flashable zip file of the update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] simbill:
Scott just explained it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] agamjl:
Does this ota let you root but block unlock bootloader? I got my phone from walmart on june 11th. Rooted and on cm10 now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] acruxksa:
Scott explained this 4 posts up. Post #77. The MEA OTA has not been released for ATT yet and when it is released DO NOT update until it has been vetted by the XDA developer community. Updating Could PERMANENTLY LOCK your bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] j510:
Title is really misleading. Sounds like its available now Ota for us
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CEaton:
I was so excited :( I really want to leave this phone stock, have a N4 for play time, but the lag is killing me, almost spilled my cheerios in anticipation when I saw this thread pop up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cusa:
This thread should be locked!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] acruxksa:
The OP is from May 7th. Says it right in the very first post. There is still relevant information in the thread, but only if people actually take the time to read it. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cusa:
Most people have updated to MDL and if you buy a gs4, it will most likely come with MDL. This thread should either include MDL in the title or should be locked because it creates a lot of confusion.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rcklss1:
Nevermind.. Delete

Sent from my WANAM'ED AT&T S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
No he isn't. This thread was created for the AMDL update. Now do you see the confusion??????????
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rcklss1:
Yup hence the deleted post.. Definitely confusing

Sent from my WANAM'ED AT&T S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
I'm quoting for the people who have not learned to read more than one post above theirs. :D

OP.. please edit the title of thread so folks know this is for the OLD update, not the new one that has not arrived yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] acruxksa:
Yes it's for MDL, but the portion about blocking updates should still be relevant for the MEA update. It's not like people should be blindly installing the MEA update when we get it either because as the original post here mentions, it's possible they've locked boot loader and fixed the loki patch work around. Yes it's old, but the message is still current. DON'T INSTALL THE OTA WHEN IT GETS HERE UNTIL THE DEVS HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT FIRST. Simple, relevant and timely.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] aznhbob:
Better than the OTA

OK noob here, so take my recommendations accordingly, but about 2 1/2 weeks ago I flashed the Goldeneye (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2313469) ROM for my i337, then did the July 10 update and added back the crapware and a couple additional enhancements including recorder on phone. iB4STiD took the June 6 i9505 German release and made into an ATT US/Can ROM with all the goodies and none of the baddies. It is sweet, fast, and as far as I can tell, and from other posts from more knowledgeable folk, quite pure. Since June 6 he's racked up 197 Forum pages, and lots of compliments. Check it out. Usual disclaimers, JMO, YMMV.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fukenbiker:
Rename wssyncmldm.apk -> wssyncmldm.apk.bak

I have been safe from that last OTA update on July 10, that is unrootable, because I have had "AT&T Software Update" frozen using Titanium Backup since May.

I read this entire thread. I'd like to clear something up about this OP. This thread starts off wondering about how safe the May update was, and yes was safe and it made the S4 better and it was still rootable so everyone got on board and now their build number ends in DL

Using root explorer I took a look at my /system/app/wssyncmldm.apk

It says wssyncmlds.apk instead of wssyncmld

(because of the extra letter s, I avoided changing the name of this file with Root Explorer. I have relied on a safe alternative to the OP's objective by using Titanium Backup to freeze things like Samsung Push update and AT&T Software Update, as it works just as well as renaming a file. Has anyone tried renaming the new wssyncmlds.apk? (why would you want to?)

I suspect it has that letter S added because the OTA AT&T update to build number ending in DL back in May added the letter S to wssyncmldm.apk described in the OP which was an earlier build.

If your build number ends with M3 because you were updated OTA on July 10, then you won't be able to use root explorer to share with us any new change in the name of this apk because you're locked up with no exploit. For now. Who knows if ever.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
I looked in my system/apps folder on my MDL S4, and it seems I have both files (with and without the s on the end). Is it time to have a thread for keeping the MDL firmware from updating to MF3? I will check here for a followup, But I need an answer before my replacement S4 gets the update. (SCARED) I bricked the first S4 after updating. Also, can someone explain how to delete the downloaded update file before it triggers?:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jeffreii:
Check out the sticky thread in this same forum!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2301762

Instructions are there to block the update. If your phone is on MDL you need to download Titanium Backup. You can then turn on airplane mode to turn off all downloads. Then root your phone with motochopper, if not done already. Then use Titanium Backup as specified in the above thread and you will be immune to OTAs!

Or you can just install a custom ROM...but I suggest doing the above first, then make a NANDROID before installing a custom ROM. That way, when/if you come back to stock using a NANDROID restore, the OTA update will already be disabled and you won't have to be scared!

Anyways, this is an old thread so let's let it die like it should!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
Thanks Jeff, I followed your suggestions pretty much. Used Motochopper to root, added SupreSU pro, TitaniumBackup Pro, and froze what apps seemed to apply. I don't mind all the bloatware in Samsung and AT&T launch. It does take some memory compared to some custom roms. I am waiting for a little more work to go into most of the roms, It seems like all have minor drawbacks or bugs still. My scared comment was kind of tongue in cheek. But it is weird not having a phone when they go bad. LOL:silly:

BTW, I also froze some of the bloatware apps after watching a youtube video on the subject using TB. I had PhilzTouch recovery on the other phone, and lost recovery when the thing went bad. Don't know the best way around that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cusa:
Why the heck is this thread still open?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
Because some people are getting out of their contract and renewing a new one and getting an S4. But without them taking the time to read or read and then bring up an older thread they don't know what to do sometimes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fast96:
It's still useful, even if it is meant for an older firmware. I'm glad I found it. Maybe we should start a newer version, because the MF3 firmware really should be avoided for anyone that wants root and a custom recovery.:o

It may have been my fault that my first S4 got bricked after the OTA to MF3, but I probably could have recovered if I was still on MDL.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] geelu:
I noticed differences between the cflashlib.cfg of ICS and the ported version of JB.

ICS:

JB:

Has anybody tried to change it to ICS settings using JB drivers? the file is /system/etc/cflashlib.cfg
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] crazy.vikas23:
Tried already. Still not working.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ozzah:
My 1st generation Nexus 7 started running incredibly slowly - to the point of unusability - around the time I set up a second user profile on it for my fiancée. I'm not sure if these two are connected, however we are using the same two-profile setup on our Nexus 10 with no issues.

N7 was running stock, and I finally had enough of not being able to use it so I wiped and installed the latest nightly of CM which I'm running on both my N4's and also the N10. Since flashing CM on the N7, there has been little improvement in the speed of the device.

I'm very hesitant to put it down to a hardware problem, as it seems very unlikely to me. I think it's far more likely that there is a misbehaving app or service that I had before, and re-installed since flashing CM and is continuing to cause problems.

Looking at the battery usage graph, I can't see anything obvious that stands out. Is there any other way I can find out if there is a misbehaving app or service that's causing this problem? Do you have any other suggestions on how I can narrow down what the problem may be?

Many thanks.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndDiSa:
How much memory do you have still free on it? It's a known fact, that if you go low of memory (<1-2GiB free) the system is slowing down very much.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ozzah:
Are you talking about storage space?

I have 2.98GB free right now, apparently.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndDiSa:
Yes, storage space. There was already a thread some time ago where especially people who had bought the 8GB version noticed a massive slow down after they had installed some apps and the free memory went below 3GB(!) (I remembered wrong, it was not 1-2GB, but 3GB). The thread can be found here
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] podagee:
use clean master to clean your cache and kill tasks.i do it constantly so my device runs speedy
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] why always me:
Try to get more than 3GB of freespace then try lagfix(fstrim) free.

Has ran into this problem once. but after done booth solutions above now my N7 is running as smooth as Brand New again.

P.S. Before I've found Lagfix(FStrim) I'm use Forever Gone and it work just as well as Lagfix did. except Forever Gone is take much longer time than Lagfix to finish its job.
[Android Apps and Games] SPV2010:
I've been hearing good things about Dragon Mobile Assistant, but i'm in UK and unable to use it. Could anyone post the APK for me to try it out at its latest version (3.1.0). Thanks in advance.

Also, will navigation work, i.e. asking for directions?
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyxiation:
http://www20.zippyshare.com/v/15223834/file.html

here you are . hope you enjoy it . don't really use it so i am not sure as to the answer of your question . just downloaded it for you .
[Android Apps and Games] SPV2010:
Thanks for the download. Its a real help. Been wanting to try it out for ages.
[Android Apps and Games] Asphyxiation:
not a problem ! hope it is everything you hoped for .
[Android Apps and Games] omarhsalem:
Thanks

Many many thanks chief!
[Android Apps and Games] paulfreathy:
Thanks so much, going to try it out too!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] lembeee:
my 1 week old Imate almost everyday gives me a black screen with no response what so ever from its buttons. even removing the battery does not help! I have to then hard reset the damn thing inorder for it to be back in business.

Any thoughts

note: running both firmwares didnt help 1.72 and 1.66
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] aceangel:
Take off either wisbar or spb software, (if you have any installed). When I used to have wisbar advance and today plus running together, somehow they always trigger a hard reset. Using one or the other helps. I'm using today plus 2.0 only because it has its own task manager.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] jimmy-floyd:
hm..

I also han Hard Reset

I had installed Spb Pocket Plus,is this a problem?

AND plz. Everyone WHO had HARD RESET on I-mate/XDA2/Qtec 2020/MDA 2 TELL US WHAT PROGRAMM was a case of Hard Reset :idea:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] azbro:
My same old story...

After a week of usage... it auto hard reset...fully loaded with softwares.

Didn't have time to install any software and it hard reset two days later at abt the same time. Funny why this happen when the set has only factory default softwares.

Did some checking at PDA stores and there are many possibilities to this.

One of them is not properly following the 8hr charging time when it is new and also overnight charging. To solve it is to charge it until its full and disconnect the charger. Do this for a week and see what happens.

So far, my set never once auto hard reset again after i follow this routine.

Hope this helps....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] jimmy-floyd:
thanx for an advice. :idea:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] igadget:
dead......

I just installed EasyTweak on a i-Mate v.1.72 and it went completely dead.

had to take the bat out for some minutes for it to recognise the hard-reset......

i'm gonna cry......
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Nicos:
I am getting a similar problem with my 1 week old XDAII. It is all absolutely fine, and then suddenly it won't switch on or soft reset so I have to hard reset and restore a previous backup.

I thought it iwas battery related, but after hard reset, the battery is still got enough charge.

Any help greatly appreciated.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] tiobill:
This is crazy!! exacly the same folks, my 1 week old XDA2 have been hard reset like 20 times!!! everything works fine and suddently I can´t turn it on and the soft reset doesn´t work. So hard reset and start all over again untill the next hard reset that can overcome within hours or 1 day time.

What I´m I gonna do.... it´s the second unit I´m testing.... and the same in both

Bill (from Spain)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] phamoui:
Me too

Every week, keeps hard reset, I tried everything, every ROM, and nothing. At this time my phone is Hong Kong (yes I send it!) going to a Service center to see what they can do. I saw a xda2 from a friend and his got a New ROM that isn't avaliable ate www.myxda.com .... Any sugestions? and I yeard about Windows Mobile third edition
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] azbro:
Can't stop the hard reset?

BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP!

I'm using Sprite Backup...its so much faster than the stock ones and best thing is it saves as an exe file. All you need to do is backup to the SD card and you're safe.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] garry:
I have same experience:

I was doing fine when I went overseas over the weekend. As I was travelling, I powered off. And after an hour or so, I was unable to power on. It has nothing to do with the battery. No button or soft reset can bring up the screen. Only hard reset.

Note that I don't have such a problem when I power off at night. And both my batteries were charged >8hrs at new and I stop charging my battery when it reaches 100%. Not to mention I changed the battery as I thought it was due to no power. So, not a battery problem.

I don't think it is the software problem either, as after hard reset, I still get that problem when I powered off for an hour. :(

I did notice something on my 2nd encounter: the Phone app was up because I received a call. After I powered off, it stuck. At night, I closed all my apps and power off at the Today. I wonder if that is the cause. :roll:

Suggestion for those that have the same problem:

either

1) don't power off with your Phone apps running - close it totally

or

2) run Windows Media and turn off your screen or run some Display Off utility instead of power off

HTH
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] tiobill:
Hi all:

Yes, I uninstalled the spb utility and now the xda seems to work better plus the battery last twice as much as before with the spb utilities!!!

On the other hand I installed the sprite backup and it´s much faster than the build in app.

I hope it doesn´t hard reset anymore, but still testing it, only 24 hours without hard reset, I´ll confirm it after 3 or 4 days of smooth work...

See u

Bill
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] k_blal:
does any one know how we solve this damn bug !!

my 2 weeks old Qtek 2020 that i bought from london. crashes down and without reason performs hard reset every couple of days, i have backups but it is very frustrating, and all the time i have a feeling that the system is not stable.

my device info are :

rom version 1.66.00 wwe

rom date 02/20/04

radio version 1.10.00

protocol version 1337.18

extrom version 1.66.130

do i need to update the rom to solve the problem and if so what is the link to it

or are there any other suggstions how to solve the problem

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[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] garry:
It might be for the following reasons:

1) some software you installed hard reset it or caused it to hard reset

2) the battery is not working properly or you left it to dry up

3) faulty hardware

Cheers
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rudegar:
if it were faulty hardware then it's odd that a hardreset always works
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] andmjones:
Hmmm, sounding all to familiar. My XDA2, 1.66.00 WWE, had it a month, been back to o2 once and is on the way back now. I was having loads of problems with the thing freezing, mainly when taking it out of my pocket, turning on and not being able to do anything. I even ran it for a month with no extra software at all and it kept happening. Lets hope the service center can pin the problem down soon as ive currently had hardly any use out of the thing.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rudegar:
could it have something to do with the 2003 issue with not baing able to run more then 13 or how much was it processes

maybe some process get killed which is needed to turn on somehow

it would explain why people seem to get it more often if they have fancy today and skinning items which also have their own processes
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Nicos:
I am beginning to thing this 'bug' relates to the battery.

I have charged my XDAII overnight for a week and it seems to be Ok since then !
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] boybi:
to those who have unintentional hard resets on their XDA2, did you all upgraded your rom by yourselves? my XDA2 is just 3 days and i want to be extra careful with mine as i just installed tons of softwares today.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rudegar:
it's been awhile since my hardreset itself last

and my xda2 still have the 1.66 rom that it came with
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] tiobill:
Well, I give up!!! I tried everything, believe me!!! I think I´ll have to buy another pda...

It hard resets every two days or sometimes twice a day!!

I tried to uninstall all the software, not to program alarms, to charge it overnight and not to charge it overnight, tried so many things that I´m out of new ideas... I changed the terminal twice and the same problems.

I´m wondering if the software that auto-installs when u hard reset previously installed by the vendor of the terminal (my operator MOVISTAR) has something to do with it. The 2 mg rom available for such programs installs many programs and connection configurations for the specific operator. I don´t know, but my friend bought it from vodafone with different rom version and different 2mg rom applications from vendor etc and he´s having the same problem. I give up. It would be a wonderful terminal if it gets to work but it´s so unstable I can´t handle it. I make backups everyday but I´m scare all the day wondering if the next time I´ll press the on button I´ll have no response and will have to perform a hard reset, only few times the soft reset works to wake it up.

If someone knows a magic formula for fixing it I´m willing to try it.

Thanks

Bill

SPAIN
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Rudegar:
what do you do?

well you press the on button and it dont turn on right ?

i've seen at times it takes a long time for it to come on and pressing the on button more then once seem to make it very confused and refusing to turn on at all

if it dont turn on after awhile after pressing the on buttton then i try softreset i never try to turn it on again if it dont turn on when i press first