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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] ForcedInduction:
I was about to trade in my S4 for the HTC One until the official 4.3 GE Rom got ported over :). No lag, smooth as butter
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Monkz:
Sounds like theres something wrong with your S4. My mom has the Note 2, and one day her phone died and she wanted to browse the web and facebook on my device and she couldnt believe how much of a difference there is between her Note and my S4. Her Note 2 doesnt lag or anything, just when it comes to browsing the home screens, web, facebook, typing on the keyboard, everything is a little bit snappier on my S4. Its smooth as butter.

The only advantage the Note Really has in performance terms (Not talking about size or anything), is the slightly larger battery life.

But when you already get 4.5-6 hrs of screen time on a single charge thats decent enough for me.

It's a great device and i don't at all regret paying full price to upgrade from the S3.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] yogi2010:
I'm happy with the S4 and I believe the lag will get fixed. I haven't run the stock Tmo MDL hardly at all, so I realy can't compare, but I have no complaints with Jedi ROM(based on international MF8 I believe, with app2sd) and the Ktoonsz kernel. If I hadn't heard the lag talk I don't think it would ocur to me really. I also ran aosp for a month and was very happy with it's smoothness, though there may be a concern or two with those roms as well.

Of course not everyone wants to root, for one reason or another. I am a bit surprised that there hasn't been another update yet, and maybe it's because of wifi calling, or whatever. Hopefully it will happen soon!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] megareyes:
I personally did feel the s-lag and that is coming from the s3 that rarely felt that lag. But the good thing and reason I went with the s4 is the possibility of going to a gpe ROM which I'm on now and feels tons smoother. Good to know there two stable Roms you can flash skin or skinless.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] skaroger867:
I noticed a lag when I got the phone at first. I couldn't use apex on the stock ROM with the tablet animation on without a lag once and a while. And I've had a n4 before and I know it didn't have that problem. But after trying the virgin ROM (the 4.3 one) I am pleased to say I got that nexus 4 feel to my phone again. And you can still use the watchon app! I like the feel of this phone more. Better battery life over the n4 for sure (major plus for me) and expandable memory and removiable battery are necessary for me!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tikay00:
So true about those ass hole members. You ask something, and instead of a yes or no, they actually go out of their way to give you a link and berate you. Lmao.

*****, just say yes or no!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] flipq88:
You should feel lucky you get a link. People just get tired of everyone asking a question that has been asked dozens of times. Or question that could easily be solved via a google search. I try to be helpful but sometimes it's just like if you don't even bother to search, why should I even bother to help

Sent from Flip's Galaxy S4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] brando56894:
The lag is Google/Android's fault, not Samsung's. About 95% of the time my phone is blazing fast but it still lags occasionally on TW, GE 4.2.2 and 4.3 ROMs and CM 10.1 and 10.2 ROMs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omf05:
Not really correct there...

So why doesn't the HTC ONE lag running the same Google Edition rom?

I own both and the HTC One doesn't have that problem. No lag on any of the roms I've installed on it.

Now battery life is a different story.

Nexus 4 No Lag

HTC One no Lag

So yeah it is a Galaxy S4 problem that needs to be address already its been out for a while.....

You shouldn't have these problem on a $600+ phone.

And yeah the Virgin Rom has the least lag out of all the roms ive tired so far. But it does lag still...Just very hard to make it lag.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Android_Monsters:
Running latest wicked rom. I have not experienced any lag.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tikay00:
Haha so u admit ur one of those ass holes?

What you said makes no sense. I asked a question that I already searched and couldn't fond a damn thing. I even let that be known and still get the same condescending tone.

Seriously. A yes or no is that much harder than typing out a girlish response?

Exactly.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] gingson:
I've rooted twice and I've unrooted twice. IMHO I think there's nothing wrong with the stock rom. I disabled Lookout and now my stock rom is almost perfect. I'll root again when users stop complaining? :) I wonder when that will be. Lol
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] whytechapel_x:
Lag on cm10.2? Don't think so
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] brando56894:
Can't really explain that considering they have the same hardware.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Monkz:
Sounds more like a hater than a logical post... Don't compare the Google Edition ROMS, because for 1 it still has some of samsungs framework, but even still the Google Edition ROMS run pretty silky from my experience.

Try doing an unbiased test between an HTC One and GS4 on CM, or a regular AOSP ROM and theres not a chance that the HTC One would outperform there. I could tell you right now if i put my GS4 running AOKP next to your HTC One, it would make your One look like a joke of a device. It's not at all a hardware issue, it's simply the software, and some custom ROMS really make a big difference.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omf05:
I own both and there both on cm10 HTC has no lag....The GS4 has lag..

Im not a hater as i own two GS4 now. But I'm not going to act like there isn't anything wrong with the phone.

Say what you want the GS4 has lag and you know it. Everyone knows it.

Its even more noticeable when running a live wallpaper. Again Nexus 4 and HTC one don't have that problem.

For the record I can shut you up fast with a video of both of my devices running the same CM10 ROM and you will see it lag. This ain't a gs4 vs HTC crap.... This is me simply giving you facts.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Monkz:
Then why does my GS4 not lag then? On Stock yes i would agree that theres some noticeable lag, but once u go custom its magic and cures all the sickness.

I know straight up if i put my GS4 next to your HTC One, or Nexus, there would be no lag, and it would just be snappier overall. I don't need you to tell me i know theres lag, when i know that on stock yes it can have its hiccups, but on my current setup NO theres not, and i'd probably give that to the kernel and ROM that i am running. But i really don't care about how it performs on stock, if people want to complain about it performing poorly go ahead, it's their problem for not switching to a ROM and Kernel combination that eliminates it. They paid for their hardware, and if they want to keep software that chews up performance, it's not my problem. But since mine doesn't lag, then obviously it's not a hardware issue and its simply the software thats installed on it that is the problem.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] samnada:
Just curious. On the GS4 you have animations turned off? How about all the home button S-voice, eye, hover, and hand motions gizmos, on or off? Yeah, I know it "should" support all that just fine, but just humor me. Unless all those features are on all the devices it's not apples to apples. If they're on try it with them off and tell us if the GS4 lags.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omf05:
There is only one true way to get rid of lag on Gs4 and that is overclock it.

Which again you shouldn't have to do that with a $600 phone.

That its self is funny because it has top of the line specs.....

My point is samsung hasnt updated it to fix the lag. Should have been fixed already.

So now your telling me a $600 phone needs me to turn off all animations?

Im not running touchwiz... Im on CM10.2 this very moment testing it out. Lag is still there.

But yes ive turn off all the other junk when i was on touchwiz and it still lag. Only touchwiz rom that was almost lag free was wicked.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] skaroger867:
The lag there talking about iant very noticeable I think. I use the sun beam live wallpaper and hone scree transitions are buttery smooth with apex and the tablet animation.not to mention opening and closing apps are smooth too. But in the gallery if I do a quick swipe between pictures there is a very slight stutter. I don't remember if my n4 did this as I don't own the device anymore. But I know that I tried the carbon ROM with stock kernel and it was not as smooth as the virgin ROM. and I haven't tried any custom kernels either
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] gamepr:
That's BC you haven't had a nexus 4. The s4 has laggy animations.

I'm seriously thinking of getting another n4!

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....even with nova the animations are laggy at times.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omf05:
Only reason i sold my nexus 4 was because GS4 has bigger screen and LTE.

Custom ROM nexus 4 kills anything out for the GS4 so far. And the difference is day and night.

HTC One Camera does suck compare to gs4. But i rather have a lag free phone the a good cam since i almost never take pics.

Ive also notice games run better on the HTC one.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] gamepr:
I'm assuming you say this because you haven't had a nexus 4 :rolleyes:

Those of us that came from a nexus 4 know what we're talking about. N4 has no lag at all. The only thing that sucked was the camera and the storage space.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] skaroger867:
And the battery life.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Soldier 2.0:
You're right. I don't think any app is optimized to run on quad core, 2GB ram just yet.

Sent from my SGH-M919 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] omf05:
Battery was a no issue running the Franco Kernel.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] flipq88:
S4 is plenty fast for me. People whining about it should go back to their nexus 4. I hated the nexus 4. No ext sd =fail. Plus stock android is so boring. But that's just my two cents.

Sent from Flip's Galaxy S4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
Not here To whine but, my nexus 4 stock runs circles around my galaxy s4 (GE ROM). I have no idea why?? After using my galaxy s4 for a few hours and I go back to my N4 I always go "Wow this phone is so freakin smooth" I've tried everything on my galaxy s4 to make it nexus4-like smoothness and it just can't. I've tried ever ROM and combo kernel with my Gs4 and there's always micro lag that bothers me. On my nexus 4 no matter how hard I try to make it lag, it just doesn't. Really sucks when you're comparing a $600 to a $300 phone and the cheaper one destroys in performance. To anybody that doesn't believe me that the Nexus 4 has zero lag while galaxy s4 does lag, simply has never owned a nexus before. Hopefully they get it fixed for the note 3, which I'll probably skip for a nexus 5...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Karakoram2:
What's a nexus 4?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
A phone that performs better than all these "fLAG ships" Google it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] eddies92:
I wasn't impressed with google edition either. I put cyanogenmod and its just like my now deceased nexus 4=( . I guess its better given it has an lte booster, bigger battery and external sd. I loved my nexus to death just feel it needed those things to make it a good winner.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] gingson:
Nexus 4 is plain google while GS4 is google plus samsung bloatware. Depending on which network you have, Tmo includes Lookout and I think its a contributing factor to lag. I disabled it and lag is somewhat reduced.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] slyjr2:
I admit that I saw lag with aokp and cm, but with wicked I have none. So much better with all the bells and whistles. Im coming from an htc 8x. No android is quite that smooth, but this S4 is pretty close now
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tikay00:
GoldenEye ROM with Ktoonz = what the S4 should've been like.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] cantenna:
Canadian Rogers Network

No lag at all here all. smooth and zippy!

Install:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2188416

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2264932. Im using ver. 6

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2273437. Im using jfltatt-faux-123-007m-MDX_R2.zip, intellidemand governor, mpdecision off, zram swap on 200mb, etc, use faux recommended settings

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2162413. Only use + dexo -sys (odex all app in system) , any,other options and get soft brick (exclusive to this rom only, make sure you have nandroid backup.) speeds up dialer, etc

Turn off animations

Also using Nova Prime Pro, XPrivacy, Greenify and used No Bloat to delete apps Ill never use such as gmail (prefer using system email which delivers email instead of sending to sent items and never sending)

Also I buy all apps when I can. There is no such thing as "free"
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
When I flashed wicked it was smooth for about 2-3 days. Got loggy afterwards and so did my brothers, also I never turn off animations, its a pretty cheap way to hide the lag Lol. My nexus 4 has animations on and handles them amazingly. (Stock non rooted) I think there is something wrong with the S4, or maybe its the 1080P screen? Nexus 4 and moto X are completely lag free on stock and they have 720p display maybe that's a factor? Not sure though. I still do love my S4, GREAT battery life and amazing camera, also its gorgeous :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] slyjr2:
I been running it for a week now and its great. Btw, nothing is lag free. Not even windows phone or iphone. Minimal lag but not free
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] cvsolidx17:
Hey guys I have an HTC One thinking about trading it for an S4. Just how bad is this lag exactly? The One never lags whether it's on stock Sense or AOSP. The S4 is clocked a little higher so would I be right in assuming that it only lags because of Touchwiz ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] sdmark:
I'm on stock, rooted.... It's not bad at all... Occasional hiccups only
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jslim38:
Where's the lag .if you guys would unlock developer options. And scroll down to windows animations and make your adjustments there .You can turn windows animations on or off .Or you make miner adjustments that will get rid of the lag or turn windows animation s off and watch this beast fly your choice or you can always switch to another device and wine about that one also
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] j_r0dd:
IMO turning off animations is NOT a solution whatsoever. A device with these specs shouldn't stutter EVER. Unfortunately every android device has it's quirks. Touchwiz launcher is the cause for this one. Installed Nova and lag almost gone. Abyss kernel really made it disappear for me. It's sad to say but the wifey's icrap is always butter smooth.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jonahtriangle:
Are you a tmobile user with an att kernel? Or are you att user?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
I agree, I may sound like a troll but I'm just stating facts. Even with animations off it lags, also even if it did get rid of the lag, why would someone have to turn off animations for it to run better? That's kinda sad, I love the animations. And to whoever asked about "where it lags" my number one area where it lags for me is switching apps, frames drop, there's a pause sometimes, stuttery, etc. Scrolling on the browser is smooth, the messaging and gallery are both laggy (TOUCHWIZ) on aosp the lag is gone in these apps. Google edition ROM is your best bet but it won't get rid of it 100%. My friends htc one is so smooth and so is my nexus 4. With all these quirks I still love my galaxy s4 just the lag is aggravating.

*Edit

If anyone doesn't believe the S4 lags I can make a video and compare it my nexus 4. Don't be in denial....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] cantenna:
Neither. I am a canadian with a Rogers canadian issued phone. Infamous t-mobile rom work fine though on this phone, this network.

Infamous kernel works fine too but if you install faux kernel, the name of the file is as I had stated for a canadian rogers phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] jonahtriangle:
Gotcha. Just wondering if the att kernel had some special powers. Yu know.;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tikay00:
I hope you're joking. Have you seen the windows animations on a HTC one? They're off. No window animations at all. That's why it looks fast.

Samsung thinks its awesome to give us the choice of window animations or no windows animations. If you want it as crisp as the HTC, then turn it off.

Simple. The only reason why the s4 is even a little laggu is because of all the features on this beast. You don't see all the other phones with this many damn features. Who the hell has S health on their phone?

This is all common sense. Its not a software issue. Its a Samsung and wanting to load the phone up with crap issue. You know what you do then? Turn the animations off and all that jazz. Then you have the same thing as the other phones with simplistic functions and no air gestures/swipes/fancy crap.

The S4 is feature rich because its a flagship phone that actually rivals the iPhone and puts it to shame. The other phones have nothing in the phones such as features compared to the S4.

Simple and plain.

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With window animations off, IT DOES NOT LAG. That's your own separate problem. I've yet to see an instance of lag with Windows animations off.

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Here's a challenge to all you guys that are complaining. Name 1 other phone where you can take a fuggin screenshot with the wave of your hand.

Name another phone where you can use air gestures and all that jazz. You cant! That's the point of the s4. Its innovative. Turn off the windows animations and its innovative and lag free.

Fuggin whining little kids.

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Another challenge. Fond another phone on this level that has as many camera features and camera quality of the s4. Nokia has a better camera, but Nokia is a joke of a phone.

So stop complaining ya little kids.

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This is a damn phone on steroids with a 1080 p screen and you guys still cry about it!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
Just did a test run with animations turned off, against my nexus 4 stock non rooted with animations on. Nexus 4 one when opening apps, closing apps, switching between apps. Again I'm not complaining, I'm just letting anyone who thinks the s4 doesn't lag is in denial. There's a delay almost every time you open aqn app, close an app, switch between apps. Like I stated earlier, I love the S4, heck I paid retail price for it. But yes it does lag. Will try to make a video tomorrow and show you guys since nobody wants to believe me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] gingson:
I've never owned a Nexus phone or will I ever own one. I happen to like Samsung TW as I used to like HTC Sense. Comparing an S4 to a strip down model is not apples to apples comparison. I chose this phone over others because of the features it has and the way it processes everything. Each and every person is unique and we all look at one thing in so many different ways.

IMHO, this phone seems to have most of what I need and more. The stock ROM always pulls me back to "unrooted" state. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] tikay00:
You're straight up lieng. Ive had my windows animation off for the past week and I've never had a delay, ever. That's the point of turning windows animations off.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Dan37tz:
Have you used an HTC One before? The HTC One CERTAINLY DOES have window animations, it's just HTC set it up default as being pretty quick. Combined with the phone being extremely smooth, the animations never stutter. Ever. It's so smooth and quick in animation that it looks transparent because you never notice it stuttering.

I was just like you at first with my first S4. In denial and thought it was definitely the TW and extra features of the phone that would make it so laggy. It was so laggy next to my HTC One that I had returned it because I thought it had defective hardware. My second S4 still behaved the same exact way. After installing almost every single ROM, both international 9505 and T-Mobile M919, it could not fix the microstutters. The laggy feeling throughout the phone, simple tasks like opening up the keyboard to start typing sometimes would hang for a second or two before opening. The stock browser was the biggest offender, it could not handle complicated websites, it would try to redraw and hang and lag and stutter ect. Try pulling up the desktop version of theverge.com or even xda and browse around, it will hang and take sometimes 10+ seconds to redraw a portion of a website. On the HTC One, it's instant and never hangs to redraw.

The final test was installing both GE roms on my HTC One and my S4. Now they are on level playing fields right? No extra features just pure Google 4.3 on both. Guess what? The S4 still doesn't even come close to the smoothness of the HTC One running the same pure vanilla android. The S4 struggled in Chrome even in 4.3, the scrolling and pinch to the zoom is like 5 times smoother on the HTC one. I tried every other browser too, UC, Boat, Firefox, Firebox Beta, Chrome Beta, Maxthon. Best way I could describe it is that the HTC One feels like it scrolls around at 60 frames per second in any browser while the S4, depending on the browser scrolls around at 10-15 frames per second.

The whole UI got better on 4.3, but it still microstutters sometimes while swiping around in the app drawer, this does not happen on the HTC One with the Google Rom. This tells me there is probably something seriously wrong with the Samsung S4's hardware design and I honestly don't think software will be able to fix it. If they do fix it, the Galaxy S5 will probably be out by then and the S4 will be yesterday's news. By the way, overclocking it to 2.1 GHz also does not fix it or make it smoother in any way, god knows I tried everything possible to get this phone to work smoothly without success. I really love Samsung phones too and love the screen size, feel in hand, removable battery and expandable storage so it's a REAL shame and huge disappointment that it feels so laggy. My S4 currently sits in it's box and my HTC One is my daily phone. I'm really hoping they don't **** up the Galaxy Note 3 or else the LG G2 is gonna be my next phone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] yogi2010:
I do feel like there is lag when typing on the TW keyboard.... if I type too fast it kinda up freezes up for a second, something that didn't happen on the Note 2. And I am even running one of the later Samsung releases for an international variant, with app2sd.

This was actually a big problem in the original Epic 4G, with the hatdware keyboard, but it was fixed first by xda devs with a software modification.

If I were to guess I think I would chalk lag up to having so much going on in the OS, all these crazy Samsung features lol. I personally didn't notice any lag in aosp roms.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
I have no reason to lie, I will make a video and show you. Then what will you say? Theres lag and delay EVERYWHERE on my S4 and my brothers S4. With animations off, trust me bud. Once you own a nexus you'll you'll see it right away.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] Android_Monsters:
10 words
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] fuego77:
See that's the difference. I prefer my galaxy S4 its amazing compared to the nexus 4. But everyone is so in denial about the lag & delay its ridiculous really. It does exist, trust me. Antone who has a nexus 4 or even a nexus 7 will be able to tell you. Its the ignorance of people that chose not to believe its there, how do I know that? Because I once tried to ignore it. But its there...