yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Apps and Games] v12xke:
fyi... from my experience and testing, backups created with ONB+TWRP on both N9_LTE and N6 will not restore properly. They will complete the backup without error, and restore without error but on both devices they will not boot. Using TWRP alone works just fine. Anyone out there thinking they have a safe, solid backup from ONB may be in for a big surprise when the sh!t hits the fan. Test your backups people. This is a big shame because ONB worked well with N7_LTE(2013), N5, N4, Galaxy Nexus. Not so with the N6 or N9_LTE. It may simply be a script issue, or the app can't handle the newer devices with encryption enabled.
[Android Apps and Games] Xenotrumpet:
I don't think this app's been updated for support for Lollipop. Got a SGH-M919 running Danvdh's GPE ROM and it backs up bogus nandroids. It hasn't been updated since August, so that may be why.
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Yea, disappointed by the lack of support after supporting the dev by purchasing pro!

Especially frustrating for something so critical as Nandroid backups (that often appear to backup correctly yet fail to actually restore properly).
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Realistically, [MENTION=4535362]H3R3T1C[/MENTION] never promised us instant lifelong support for all future devices and Android versions. If ONB no longer works for you that's indeed unfortunate but it's a bit unfair to blame the dev for the changes Google made and your decision to switch to LP.

Note that it seems that at least some of the complaints about ONB are actually referring to shortcomings of the onandroid script. Any perceived problem with ONB should probably be first verified by running Ameer's script directly to make sure that only the app misbehaves.
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
@ Mike Ⓑ, true but mine don't falI into that category.

I've been active in suggesting improvements/identifying errors in the ONB (not Ameer's) script for a while, yet the support is still lackluster.
[Android Apps and Games] kevinola:
this is a person's work in this case, its Ameer. We will have to wait till he can/wants to/find the way to bypass those changes.

Im on an older version 2.3.6 and having my own problems with the scripts for ONB.

Hope he can come up with some easy to do solutions. Ad automatic script based on some file on the phone it self as it did CWM one time (now not working).

And its great it work for other people. Just need some patient I hope.
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
I have been able to get ONB Lollipop backups to restore on my S3, though only with CWM (Philz) in split backup mode. I have been unable to get TWRP backups of any kind to restore properly on Lollipop. Using 2.7.1.0, but 2.8.1.0 doesn't have adb incorporated for my phone. Still, when Lollipop first came out, I was unable to reliably backup with 2.8.1.0, though I might try it again just as a test.
[Android Apps and Games] Xenotrumpet:
Using TWRP 2.8.3.0, not working for me.
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
Well, I just have been able to get TWRP 2.8.3.0 ONB backups to restore perfectly, with compression! on my d2vzw S3 on 5.0.2. Dang! Happy about that - love compression!

It is not dividing the /data archive, of course, and people with a lot more /data than I have might not have the same success, but I'm loving me some Lollipop, TWRP and ONB at the moment.

EDIT: Except I haven't been able to get adb working on any 2.8.x
[Android Apps and Games] arboeh:
No chance to restore. :(

ROM Manager pro backups are working fine.
[Android Apps and Games] Khizar Ali:
Nice app

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Easy backup
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
Have you been able to report the issue to @ameer1234567890?

I asked about this in the script thread about a week ago and haven't heard anything.

Is there another way we should report a script issue?
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
@ameer1234567890 responded to a bunch of posts in the script thread including mine about the Note 4 restore not working. He asked for my recovery.log (which I provided).

Another user posted right before my post about the same issue (restoring of a backup results in tons of FCs and phone is unusable). He also provided his recovery.log so hopefully @ameer1234567890 has enough data to get things working.
[Android Apps and Games] Fat Rat Bastard:
nandroid backup of user data?

Device: Galaxy S4 AT&T (jflteatt)

OS: v4.2.2 stock (I337UCUAMDB), rooted

Recovery: TWRP v2.8.4.0

From the descriptions I've read, a "nandroid backup" us supposed to back up EVERYTHING on a phone in order to be able to perform a full restore. However when I perform a custom backup in "Online Nandroid Backup" (ONB) and select the "data" partition, the internal storage where user data is stored that is mounted at /data/media/0 isn't backed up. I'm guessing this is because of Android's grotesque overuse of fuse filesystems and that /data/media/0 is really /dev/block/mmcblk0p29.

So, how can I make a nandroid backup of the user data stored on the internal storage?
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
Hey Fat Rat Bastard,

No, that ain't the way it woiks! Conventionally, a nandroid is for the ROM, leaving what is linked as internal and external sdcards alone. Do some googling on what it means. However, I believe you can do an internal "sdcard" backup from CWM manually (never tried), but I don't think ONB can access that. It's just not what a nandroid is used for.

If you back up your entire internal sdcard storage to,..., what, your external SD, how much data would that be? Probably better to just copy it over to your PC if you're worried about it.:good:

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Just do /boot, /data, /system and /cache. If you read through the last 10 pages or so on this thread, you'll see that people are having various levels of success with ONB, usually connected to the /data partition and whether or not it's compressed or split and not compressed. (The latter most likely works, is faster but takes up 60% more space.)
[Android Apps and Games] kevinola:
files

I uploaded de boot.img and the recovery.img hope it help to make the patch work for the Motorola IronRock (XT626) with android 2.3.6
[Android Apps and Games] Fat Rat Bastard:
The one article I read on what a nandroid backup is defined it as a full backup of each partition at either the file or block level in order to be able to perform a bare-metal restore. Because of this I was expecting to be able to choose any partition as a backup source.

Your suggestion of copying the data to my pc isn't a practical option as I believe Samsung only provides access to user data via MTP, which would result in a backup stripped of permissions, which is not very useful.

I guess I'll just have to do it manually using tar. I could also use dd if it's available in the TWRP restore environment, which I'd expect it to be.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
This is not directly related to Nandroid backup issues, but you can simply copy the contents of your internal SD card to any other available storage device (external SD, USB drive, computer, etc.) using any number of methods/connections/apps such as Root Explorer, ADB over USB, remote/WIFI connect, etc.). Note that "permissions" are not an issue as they can't be changed on SD cards (emulated or otherwise).

One advantage of a Nandroid backup (via recovery, ONB, or any other method) is that it can be used to restore your ROM and internal partitions

without

destroying data on the internal SD Card. Backing up storage devices (including any Nandroid backup stored on an internal SD card) is a separate matter best accomplished with different tools.
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
Just open your recovery and all will be revealed! If you use Philz, you'll see a /data/media option.
[Android Apps and Games] genci:
Retention policy issue

Hi,

retention policy is not applied in MI3 with MIUI6. I have set to keep 1 backup, but backups are never deleted.

Any fix?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] genci:
retention fixed

Solved! Updated busybox on the phone and selected busybox from phone in the app settings. It fixed it
[Android Apps and Games] sabaysal:
Feature request

I'm sorry if this has been brought up and dismissed, but I have a feature request.

I think it would be wonderful if online nandroid backup app (or nandroid manager app, if it's more appropriate) could upload backups "on demand."

The way it currently is, if you have connectivity issues while trying to upload and it fails, you can't upload again, except if you use the google drive app, maybe.

Thanks in advance.
[Android Apps and Games] fabfor:
I see that Sony Xperia Z3 D6603 is not in the list of supported devices.

I'm making backups with the script for Sony Xperia Z3 Compact D5803 / D5833. When backing up, output is ok apart from the "recovery not found" message.

Are these backups safe or I should try to restore one?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] salah_mc:
:good: :good: :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Has anyone had success RESTORING a TWRP ONB backup of lollipop (specifically 5.0.2)?

The ONB TWRP backup of my Nexus 7 succeeds, but when trying to restore (using TWRP 2.8.4.0), it shows the boot animation indefinitely.

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] arboeh:
I have the same problem with my Nexus 5 and 7... ROM is CM12.

It doesn't work with latest CWM also.
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
TWRP 2.8.5.0 was literally released just now.

I was just now able to successfully restore a TWRP backup created via the TWRP 2.8.5.0 recovery (not ONB).

EDIT: Restoring a freshly created ONB backup still results in failure! The boot animation loops forever. (Using logcat to see what's happening shows a lot of "Permission denied" msgs.)
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
Hi!

On my OPO I'm using Online Nandroid Backup with Cyanogenmod 11.0.

Please help me in fixing this error:

05:00:04 Using busybox from: /data/data/com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup/files/busybox

05:00:04 Checking for root permissions...

05:00:04 Root permissions acquired!

05:00:04 Analysing battery level...

05:00:04 Sufficient battery available!

05:00:04 Checking version of BusyBox installed...

05:00:04 BusyBox version 1.20 or above installed!

05:00:04 Searching for SD card...

05:00:04 Alternate storage media provided!

05:00:04 This device has a patch file installed!

05:00:04 Incremental backup mode selected at run time!

05:00:04 Checking for required tools...

05:00:05 Error: dedupe not found in path! Exiting...

'dedupe not found in path'

What does that mean?
[Android Apps and Games] nIGhT-SoN:
I can confirm this. I made a backup using this app and tried to restore it in Recovery mode with CWM. This lead to not booting anymore, the problem seems to be in "system". Reflashed and tried one by one see what's causing the problem, after I restored system it didn't boot anymore.

ROM - Resurrection Remix 5.3.6 - Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus i9105P
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
I found the solution to this with Google "anddroid dedupe" Why not try that?
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
I guess You mean the '(dedupe_tool.zip)'

which oen can download here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=33067642&postcount=1165

I changed the path to the KitKat internal path now.

Before I just used what Titanium had restored so far.

Now I wait and see if the scheduled backup works! :)
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
Again, dedupe not found! [MENTION=5519140]Master Cylinder[/MENTION]

Would you mind telling me what

exactly the 'dedupe_tool.zip' would do to my phone and why I should need this on a new OPO with Cyanogenmod.
[Android Apps and Games] ovizii:
Is there a FAQ somewhere explaining the different backup methods that are available?
[Android Apps and Games] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
Is it me or is the timer off sometimes? I set it for 3am but when I rebooted at 12:15am the backup started. Is there time zones in the scheduled backup? I do frequently travel....
[Android Apps and Games] Master Cylinder:
In that post from ameer1234567890, who is the developer of the script for this app, there is a link to the thread in large bold letters at the top right Or Continue to Thread: and some explanation as well as direction to fix it. I would search that thread to solve your problem because it is the basis for this app.

What that zip file does is in the "updater-script" within the file. It's simple to figure out what it's doing - just look in there.
[Android Apps and Games] theaulddroid:
Online Backup Failing

Installed the pro version today and it's performing the backup ok but fails when uploading to Google Drive. It starts to upload - as in there is a progress bar - but ultimately returns an error.

I see some people on Google Play are reporting a similar issue.

Any suggestions from anyone?

Is there more info i need to supply?
[Android Apps and Games] ovizii:
And after testing I found the following:

full CWM backup: 5.5GB

2nd, 3rd and 4th with plenty of changes and app updates in between, all 27MB

Set backup retention to 4 =>

the 5th one gets taken, also 27MB and the first one gets deleted now I only have 4 that are each 27MB. Looks very suspicious and obviously the first full one is lost.

Any pointers?

EDIT

Figured it out, the data is inside the blobs the backup only seems to contain meta data. Still after deleting all backups, shouldn't all blobs also be deleted? I deleted the backups via the nandroid manager by this very same developer.
[Android Apps and Games] brando56894:
For uploads is SFTP supported? Also is uploading to another folder other than the root directory supported with Google Drive?

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This must've just happened because 3 days ago my first backup uploaded fine, but the following two days failed with SSL errors, it uploads two partition images then fails.
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
My experience with this app has been that backups state they complete successfully but these backups are no good when I try to restore. Straight backups and restores via TWRP are both successful.

Has anyone been able to get valid backups with this app and the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? It's crazy that such a popular phone does not work with this app yet my old LG Optimus L9 worked fine! :(
[Android Apps and Games] chris.r:
Hey,

i tried to autobackup with tasker. I only backup boot, system and data because TWRP does the same.

If I try to restore... bootloop!

What can I do? Thank you!
[Android Apps and Games] GJSmith3rd:
I've had no success with restores on Samsung Galaxy Light. TWRP and CWM are generally successful.
[Android Apps and Games] theaulddroid:
It did a background sync today and uploaded to Google Drive fine. Although I haven't tried to restore from it yet.
[Android Apps and Games] theaulddroid:
And not working again.

The upload fails and as far as I can tell the backup isn't being zipped either.
[Android Apps and Games] Technical:
Seems that the app is not being developed anymore :(

Sometimes, scheduling overnight does not work...

New features like stop backup could be added.
[Android Apps and Games] xda970:
scheduled backups won't work

Hi there,

I'm using online nandroid backup but I'm unable to schedule automatic backups: it works manually but when I schedule a backup It runs for few seconds then nothing happens.

I've tried to change ash terminal with the defaut (that's terminal emulator) but still not working.

With rom manager I'm able to schedule backup but the phone need to reboot.

Some suggestions?

I 've also tried using OBackup but when starting the application hangs to "device recognition" (tried also using older versions but still hanging?!)

thanks in advance,

phone Xperia Z C6603

android kitkat 4.4.4 rooted

bootloader unlocked

busybox & SuperSu installed

recoveries installed : TWRP and Clockworkmod
[Android Apps and Games] dasx86:
Application creates backups that I cannot successfully restore. Verizon One M8, with TWRP 2.8.5.0.

If this application was updated to interface with TWRP (reboot and let TWRP do the backup) that would work for me - don't know if that is possible. I'm just looking for a nice graphical front-end to handle recurring backups - it isn't necessary that these happen while "online" in Android OS....
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
If the Onandroid script does not work with your phone, this app is useless. It's just a front end to use that script. The script appears abandoned but it was Ameer's personal project. This, however, is a paid app that relies upon a script that does not work with some newer phones. All of my attempts to contact this developer have failed. It appears this app is also abandoned.

Pretty much sucks. This app and the script together were a great combo on my old Optimus. But on my new Note 4, I'm back to rebooting to recovery and manually running backups.

Sent from my Note 4 with Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
I fully concur with [MENTION=4193208]SJMarty[/MENTION]'s assessment. At one time, the combination of [mention=4540978]ameer1234567890[/mention]'s onandroid script and [mention=4535362]H3R3T1C[/mention]'s ONB app was a wonderful way to insure convenient automated backups, but this is no longer true for many recent devices and ROMs. Even if you think it's still working fine for you, please test that assumption by first making a full Nandroid backup from recovery, then letting ONB make another backup. Just because no error is generated during backup doesn't mean it's usable. Try to restore from the ONB backup. If you have any trouble, you can still restore from the recovery backup and look for alternatives

Remember that if you can handle the minor inconvenience of having to temporarily go into recovery, you can still have a dependable unattended backup with Rom Manager, the TWRP Manager (untested), and other mechanisms. Whatever you select,

always test the the "restore" step

. A backup that can't be restored is simply a waste of time and space.

Thanks for a good ride, ONB, we'll miss you... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Technical:
I've tried too in vain...

I think the developer must say if he/she abandon a project... Stay without info is the worst thing.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Let's keep in mind that developers are real human beings with real lives. While it would be nice if [MENTION=4535362]H3R3T1C[/MENTION] could make some sort of official announcement, we can't realistically expect lifelong support and updates. Many of us have enjoyed ONB for quite a while and we should be grateful for having had that opportunity. Now it's apparently time to move on... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
I have to disagree with some of your points...

I would agree 100% that it is unrealistic to expect someone to support a tool or app forever when he/she has offered it for free to the XDA community. In fact, it's free - they have no obligation to support it at all. This is true with Ameer1234567890's onandroid script. I consider his contribution generous and recognize that he has gone above and beyond to support a script that he created for himself on other devices. If that is a burden to him now, no one has a right to demand support. Is was free.

Yes, Thomas Otero is a real human being with a real life. However, his Online Nandroid Backup Pro is a paid app that is still being sold on Google Play. If the app is no longer supported, it shouldn't be offered for sale on Google Play. The developer has a responsibility to support his paid app.

I buy a lot of apps. I also make donations on XDA when someone has provided an app, service, or documentation that I have found useful. I understand that app development and support is not the only thing that every paid app developer does. There needs to be a balance. If you can't/don't want to support your paid app any longer, don't offer it for sale.

I hate doing manual backups in recovery so I am sad that these two very useful and nicely designed tools have stopped working on newer devices (mine included). Hopefully, I don't sound jerky...just trying to make my point.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
It's unclear whether "buying" an app (not actually buying the rights and source to the app) grants additional features or additional support or both, or is simply a way to thank the developer for his/her work.

I have no particular insight on why [MENTION=4535362]H3R3T1C[/MENTION] appears to have vanished but just because an app is offered on the Play Store doesn't imply that the dev is actively expecting to get paid for no support. Google has a habit of removing and keeping apps without necessarily doing so with dev approval. I wouldn't assume anything based on the complete lack of information we have! ;)

While I don't recommend ROM Manager for many of its functions, it's at the moment one of the simplest and easiest ways to schedule dependable full Nandoird backups. No it's not perfect and yes it goes through recovery but it's fairly quick and it returns to full operation painlessly... so far.
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
My apologies, I didn't intend to come across that my opinion on the matter was "the way it is". I actually obtained this information from the Google Play Developer Distribution Agreement. If you take a look at section 3.6, the support expectations for paid apps is pretty clear...

3.6 You Support Your Product. Buyers are instructed to contact the developer concerning any defects or performance issues in applications downloaded and installed from Google Play. You will be solely responsible for, and Google will have no responsibility to undertake or handle support and maintenance of your Products and any complaints about your Products. You must supply and maintain valid and accurate contact information that will be displayed in each application detail page on the Store and made available to users for customer support and legal purposes. For paid Products or in-app transactions, you must respond to customer support inquiries within three (3) business days, and within 24 hours to any support or Product concerns stated to be urgent by Google. Failure to provide adequate information or support for your Products may result in low Product ratings, less prominent product exposure, low sales, billing disputes, or removal from the Store.
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[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
I'm familiar with the dev agreement and how it's implemented in practice. I guess my expectations are different from Google's. Note that according to Google's rules, [MENTION=4535362]H3R3T1C[/MENTION]'s ONB Play Store listings fail in several ways, including the lack of a physical address. I suspect the listing will be removed eventually when Google gets around to it. The dev is not currently asking for money, Google is, a significant difference.

I'm still grateful for having been able to use ONB and I don't regret whatever it was I paid for the Pro version. ;)
[Android Apps and Games] zombunny:
Can't get nandroid to backup. It says successful, but it completes in only two seconds, so I know it's not actually working. I changed the shell to default, too. It seems like everything is set up proper, is it a device issue? I'm using my Huawei Ascend Mate 2 (MT2L03) for this (4.3).
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
'error while restoring data' CWM 6 on OPO CM 11.0

Hi there!

Just found out that I cannot succesfully restore Online Nandroid Backups:

'error while resotring data'

CWM 6, OnePlus One, CM 11.0

I CAN restore CWM built backups though succesfully!

I checked the data folder with a twin phone and it seemed like nothing essential was missing - my opinion :)

The phone reacts 'normal' - no force closes or so...

The last CWM made backup is from the 17.03 - long time ago - so I'd like to know if I could go on and just

use the phone with the 'error-backup'.

What do you think - would you risk that?

To go back to the last 'working' backup would probably mean quite some work for me :)

Apart from that: This 'experience' inspired me to think about changing to TWRP's recovery.

It is definitely supporting the OPO and because the development of CWM stopped . . .

Any ideas about this step???

Thanks :)