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[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Not back in the day. An OTA or leak could mean no root for many months and have been know to lock bootloaders back up -- The OG Droid and OG Atrix for examples.. Read 3 years of the Defy, or any of the Motorola OMAP 3 and 4 phones for that matter, and you'll see all the crap that's come from OTAs to screw with the custom development scene. The thing is, no one can say for 100% that our bootloaders are permanently unlocked or if the can be force locked by Motorola. Fact is, there is a slight chance that Motorola could possibly lock our bootloaders with an OTA, so just to be safe, don't take an OTA until some one who knows more can look it over and make sure we'll be safe using it.

Ripping the OTA and making a rom out of it is the safer way of doing it and how its been done for as long as I've been using Motorola Android phones, and I've only used Motorola Android phones.

If they manage to be able to relock the bootloader, having or not having stock recovery will be the least of our problems. And besides, as far as Motorola phones go, the only time stock recovery even really matters is if your device has a locked bootloader and Motorola screwed up and released one that can flash unsigned updater zips...that doesn't happen every day and is usually a mistake by a 3rd party making custom carrier roms.
[Motorola Atrix HD] darknessrise1234:
My misunderstanding, I was just saying it wouldn't flash unless you had stock recovery. I did ics–>jb through OTA and with cwm, flash fails from signature check.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
My bad, now I get what you're saying. I'm just been with Moto long enough to be full blown tinfoil hat paranoid of their OTAs. They can be down right digital evil.
[Motorola Atrix HD] darknessrise1234:
HTC aria, inspire, Samsung infuse then this. I phones before.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Byakko Custom:
>.> Being honest though, I love Motorola, but I'm *never* doing an OTA Update.

I'd rather wait a while, and get updated 4.2 roms...
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Same here. The only OTA worth doing is the one ripped and repacked by the scene.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Youngunn2008:
I guess it IS a tribute to Motorola how tight they are able to secure a phone. That makes it safe for the average end user. Just make every phone able to be unlocked at your own risk with their online tool.
[Motorola Atrix HD] bassistn8:
I thought Moto was going to unlock all their phones bootloaders at one point? maybe this update has that?
[Motorola Atrix HD] w6155053:
wish the atrix HD can get the 4.2.2
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Its their best quality. We probably wouldn't have been unlocked if they had used a TI board like all their other phones. Our generation is the first MSM based Moto phone so they don't have it completely figured out...or didn't anyways

Same here. Meant to quote the dude above you, but to answer that...its more just wishful thinking, but I'd expect us to get either 4.2.2 or 4.2.3 as our last Official Moto update....All our family runs code similar enough that as long as ONE of our phones gets official, all of our phones in the scene will benefit from it.
[Motorola Atrix HD] w6155053:
wish the 4.2.2，except the X phone ，in especial its battery ,if the X phone do not have a good improvement，maybe the lumia will be a good choice.

Do have some ideas for lumia 925?
[Motorola Atrix HD] souljaboy:
Yh I'm just waiting if Xphon has HDMI, if not, I'm keeping the AHD for a loooong time. Don't need fullHD, just have quadcore so I can run ubuntu better :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] wamsille:
I wouldn't put money down on the Lumia 92x series of phones right now. While I liked the Lumia 920, the lack of applications really does hurt the platform. I didn't think I would miss customizing my phone as much I did when I had Android but the little tweaks you can do really make a difference in both performance and functionality. The Lumia, rather Windows Phone OS in general, lets you change the accent color.

The Lumia EOS is going to be leaps and bounds more of a hero device and flagship for Nokia going forward. A phone with a 41MP? Crazy, but if they manage to pull it off - hot damn.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Gabxter101:
thanks

thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sa.guly10:
Got a mail from AT&T to take a survey for the S4. First time I ever got this kind of email. Does it mean they are getting lot of complaints and trying to find issues??

Sent from xda app-developers app
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
No
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kyjelly:
I got it and took the survey
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geekdadof3:
I took the survey also, and though the wording of some f the questions odd. Almost as if they were rethinking how to market the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
Got the survey as well. It's bound to your specific account otherwise I'd share the link.

Filled it out faithfully, but mentioned the bootloader lock in every single 'open answer' form.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hyelton:
Haha!

I got 2 of these before. 1once by email for my Note 1, and 2nd was a phone call and it took about 15min and said I would get a $15 amazon card and sure enough I got one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
I've never received a "survey" like this one from AT&T before, but I did beta test what would eventually become the AT&T Smart WiFi app. They paid me like $50 or $100 in an Amazon gift card if I remember correctly. Was a pretty bad app in my opinion, and still pretty much is. :-/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
I have this annoying yellow tint on my S4's screen, but disappears when the phone is tilted over 45 degrees. Is this faulty ? Shall I return it ? Or is there a way I can fix the gamma through an app without rooting the phone ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] MattMJB0188:
Mine doesn't look like that, sorry. But I have lag. ):
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raqball:
Is it just in Chrome?

Try Chrome Settings ---> Developer Tools ---> Uncheck 'Enable Tilt Scrolling'
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=2678069]raqball[/MENTION] nope this is found everywhere, even instagram and facebook.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] raqball:
Ah, no clue then sorry..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=2678069]raqball[/MENTION] can you do a quick check with yours, similar to the one I did and let me know what you get ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] stevehkim:
Go to settings display screenmode and use something else other than adapt display. Im currently using dynamic and my tint is gone.

ATT S4 Rooted. Beastin.

4.2.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
I had it on standard all this time (including screenshot) .. Putting it on dynamic gives the same result :
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] stevehkim:
Damn I was hoping it was that because it fixed it for me. Maybe a hardware issue?

ATT S4 Rooted. Beastin.

4.2.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=4317660]stevehkim[/MENTION] I'm not sure tbh .. thanks for the suggestion though. It's quite annoying after I realised that it exists ... Didn't bother me before I noticed it :\
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
I found an app called Screen Adjuster but its not really efficient.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] geoldr:
I had this with my S3 and got used to it. I was told in those forums that this is just how these AMOLED screens are made.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bjray:
My display is perfectly white though... Side by side comparisons between the Note II, Microsoft Surface RT (perfect white display), and a Sony HDTV. My S4 beats or meets them all.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
Can you post a picture comparing your screen to a laptop's screen ? I just want to see how different it looks. Also, do you suggest I return it to the store and get another one ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
It didn't bother you ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Cusa:
I would return it rather than regretting it later. It defiantly doesn't look right.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Bjray:
Acer 24" LCD Monitor vs S4

I'll do one of my Surface or TV later.

I made a Pure White image to use for testing on the S4, use it instead of Chrome which uses a grey color in it's UI and for some reason the S4 screen brightness dims on Chrome automatically (and you can't change it). Download it if you want to do comparisons again.

Link: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0r4KgQ9UmZjNEJTUV9aMjZURUE/edit?usp=sharing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
Thanks for doing this, do you notice any yellowish tint or is yours bright white ? ...Yeah I tried a white BG not in chrome and this is what I got :

It's pretty annoying the more I realise it tbh ...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
Anyone else having this issue ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] GuestK00345:
No, but just exchange it out asap.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] sameer1807:
yes im having it but not that bad. my yellow/purple tint is toward the bottom of the phone and got better after a reset...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Eequetsuorcha:
I had the same problem so i went to Best Buy and Talked to the Samsung guys. They compared it with 6 of the display phones they had and told me to exchange it. AT&T told me they would only do it once for me and if my next phone was the same that i was burnt. My new one is nice and bright.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
I had the same exact response from my retailer..They exchanged it for me and told me I cannot do it again if I have the same problem .. The new phone still has a yellow tint, I guess their batch is just crap .. I'm going to sell the phone with a loss.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] atir usman butt:
my s4 white color showing offwhite a custom kernel can fix that problem?

my s4 white color showing offwhite a custom kernel can fix that problem?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
I doubt a kernel can fix an offwhite screen issue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] atir usman butt:
then how to fix it ?next software update can fix it?and its just in internet explorer and shaddy then tilt angel its looks white,,?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] hyghonryce:
it's just the screen. the "white" on the phone is an off white. so its never going to be be as white as other screens.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Sakarias:
Same here

Hello,

I have the same exact issue, There's an horrible yellowish tint on my screen..

I think I found a workaround, Download the app called " Screen Adjuster " and set the "Blue" Value to +15.

It partially (90%) fixed the issue for me =) Try and tell me if it works for you.

Good luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rapaholic999:
I have the same issue. :(

I looked up on the internet and there is not fix for it.

But I have found this thread where they have ported the calibration software for different devices of sony.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2190293

Wishing someone does the same for us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Slade8525:
OK, there are several HUGE PROBLEMS with all the discussion going on here, and very little facts.

First off, to check for sure your screen is faulty, do the following. Settings, Display, Display Mode, change to Professional photo or Movie (movie is flatter image; professional photo seems to keep reds spiked 20%). Also disable auto brightness. Next disable ALL POWER SAVING options or apps (some dim the screen). Check out the color of the screen, color bleeding/fading etc at different angles and holding phone in all four directions.

You CANNOT COMPARE an AMOLED screen to a CCFL backlit LCD, an IPS LCD, or an LED LCD; they are all wildly different technologies. Then there are the inherent differences in contrast ratio, angle of view, refresh rate, lumens, and most importantly, ambient light and color temperature.

I work in the TV/Film industry; i have every type of screen imaginable, 7" 720P IPS field monitor, 32" Sony CCFL LCD HDTV, 32" Panasonic CRT HDTV (yes, a 4:3 picture tube HDTV; and i LOVE it), CCFL LCD monitors, an LED LCD monitor, and even a (used) 10 bit marshall field monitor.

check out attached photo and you will see what i mean about color/contrast etc; every screen is slightly different; compare your S4 to any TV or LCD with the same image, blow that image up on screen to match; you will never get a perfect match, so no way to compare your screen/other lcd versus someone elses.

White balance, gamut, brightness, contrast, saturation, hue/tint are all different. Comparing a phone screen to a computer monitor to see if one is 'off' is like comparing my lawnmower to a locomotive and deciding something is wrong with one or the other. Compare it (same settings, image, brightness, EXACTLY) to a few other S4's. Also ambient lighting can corrupt your perception of what is 'white'. check it out under the same lighting as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
That's actually very interesting !! Thanks for posting this !

Hopefully this can be ported to the S4 too. Although you would imagine that the phone would already come calibrated correctly ...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ZaZu90:
Thanks for the suggestion. Yeah I tried this but the black contrast has a blue hue over it now, which removes the whole idea of having true color contrast on the phone :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Slade8525:
made a thread on S IV specific color issues, brightness, etc. PM me and i will do the best i can to help as long as you can take and send pics to spec.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2286809
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] dark5577:
Most consumer displays are tinted a bit blue, so the GS4 display can look yellow by comparison. This is because the backlight of LCDs is made up of blue LEDs with a yellow phosphor coating to help them produce red, green, and blue which looks white when combined. But, the white light they produce is still shifted towards blue. You can see the attached image of a typical backlight LED light spectrum. The GS4 display is actually closer to the 6500K color temperature standard than most mobile screens, which is probably why it might be a noticeable change from your last device. If you want to learn more about the different backlights used in LCDs, you can search for "the evolution of LED backlights" on your favorite search engine. It will be the pcmonitors website link.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Blue1k:
Yes it can. Note 2 had an excellent kernel with specific color options and ability to turn off Samsung profiles.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] JuniorGG:
What about hue shift on certain zones of the display.

I'm on my second display on my s4. Sent to have it replaced because my display had a strong bluish shift at the bottom-right half.

Now the new display they put on on the unit is better but still not perfect. I still can see a small hue on the right side towards blue (or left towards brown-yellow if you prefer).

It is also slightly yellower than what I would call "grey" (and I'm used to the 6500K white of my pioneer plasma TV).

A side by side comparison with the unit of a friend of mine confirmed these differences (though not immediately peceivable at first glance).

I'm tired of this... what shall I have to do?

Ah, and btw, on my sgs2 (with perfectly uniform, greenish but very bright display), I used an app called "Soft Screen Tuner" that requires root and only works with gingerbread on galaxy s2 and (if i remember well), galaxy s. That app is very good because it actually let you adjust the gain og the R, G and B components (and hence the white point), not the offset as instead Screen Adjuster does. I found that app a long time ago on the forum of galaxy s2, on XDA. In any case, unfortunately it is not compatible nor with JB, neither with the s4. Perhaps if somebody would ask the developer for an "update", he may come out with a usable one for our s4, who knows.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmanxhmed:
I want to know from expert guys who have bought S4 or those who have expert ideas about screen smearing or other issues with S4, kindly advise me should we buy S4 right now or should we wait, or should we consider iPhone5 which does it all in good way but just smaller display or even HTC One?

Advice required?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mkrmec:
How can you even consider iPhone 5 is beyond me...

Wait to see if the problems get fixed I guess. HTC One is the next best thing.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=4633583]usmanxhmed[/MENTION] you can choose whatever you prefer. People here will bash you if you mention any iOS devices. But tbh I just switched to S4 and currently having yellow tint issues .. I believe my iPhone 4S's display is brighter and clearer than my current S4, only that it's smaller. You may want to wait.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conmeo:
it's not bashing about ios. iphone 5 is rubbish. even galaxy s3 is better. how could someone consider iphone 5 to galaxy s4. it's beyond my imagination.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nniicckkss:
I'm loving my S4, I can't see what everyone is moaning about, inventing all of these 'issues' with it! Just set your phone up properly and off you go.

Seriously, it's the best phone I've ever had. My mate has an iPhone, I was showing off my S4 today and it does impress.

The quality of the screen is the first thing you notice, just playing the helicopter video which is on the phone does a good job when showing off, then demonstrate hovering over text messages and emails, then gesture scroll on the browser, it can't fail to impress, even iPhone owners!

Don't hesitate, just buy an S4. :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shox22:
If you consider to buy a Iphone 5 instead of the s4, better go with the One. Its closer in terms of fluidness, haptics, optics and display.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaZu90:
You're probably just too excited with your S4. I had an iPhone before the S4 and the screen is much brighter. Also, my S4 has a yellowish tint, which is not something i'm happy about. Oh and all those features by Samsung are gimmicks and useless, I turned them all off.

It's a good phone, don't get me wrong, but I hate how this forum is filled with fanboys defending it with everything. Phones DO have disadvantages whether you like it or not -.-
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3473:
The screen is definitely brighter on my brothers iPhone 5, but most the time you have it on mid brightness anyway, otherwise the 1400mah battery will run out
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=4527055]3473[/MENTION] Yeah a smaller battery and drains fast, but the screen does not disappoint imo. I always had my brightness on 80%. The thing is, I never noticed it until today, hence why I am annoyed by it so much. I realise it now every time I turn on my S4 :\
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nniicckkss:
I've had my first Samsung phone ever, for less than a week, and now I'm a fanboy...!

You're funny. :p

If your gimmicky phone is broken, change it!

(Perhaps for an iPhone as you like them so much.)

Mine isn't tinted yellow, it's fine.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZaZu90:
[MENTION=4415494]NNI[/MENTION]icckks This is my first samsung as well, hence why I'm disappointed. Can you hold your phone with an empty white screen to your laptop (both on full brightness) ? See if you can find yellow tint in yours.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] conmeo:
usmanx i think you are clearly isheep..

doesn't matter which phone is good. everywhere on internet said galaxy s3 is better than iphone 5. phone of the years 2012 is galaxy s3. phone of the years 2011 is galaxy s2.

2013 should go to galaxy s4 or htc one. iphone is big sh1t of rubbish. i have use iphone 1, 3gs and 4. yes my wife has iphone 4s and 5atm.

i know how it works. it's simple a prison ( iphone ). you can't do sh1t with it. a damn old ugly interface for ages now. same design kept for years.. nothing innovation.

well. i'm not fan of anything. but i'm sure go to freedom. android is freedom. f*ck ios. my galaxy s3 with wanam custom rom are million miles better than iphone 5. not to mention my galaxy s4 is going to be. once the dev start kicking.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jejb:
Have to agree. I don't have or notice any of the screen issues folks are going on about. Compared to my HTC Evo 4G LTE, the whites might not be quite as bright at times, but the colors are so much better and the screen is very easy to see and use, even in full sunlight. I guess the screen comes down to personal preference in the end, but I sure would not let any minor issues like that have been reported stop you from trying it. It's not perfect, but I'm really enjoying mine so far after a week of using it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmanxhmed:
Hovering affect is waist, so as air gestures? they are not reliable plus they will drain battery plus they will slower the phone, plus they make the OS heavy plus simply touching the screen is more assured? and if you have to show these off, then i should not take your advice.

You can talk about benefits of larger screen, more sharing options and other useless features, please not gimmiks, thanks.

I wanted S4 to be automatic choice for me, but a phone with unreliable screen?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmanxhmed:
No dear i am not isheep, actually i was symbian fan, when it died i went to android, used many android phones, i was waiting for S4 after selling HTC One x, but it was getting long wait, so i bought new iPhone 5, liked it, but had small screen and lack of sharing features so i tempted to sale it again for S4 as i thought it is automatic choice, but now after these issues i am confused
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmanxhmed:
Well a personal question, you are not forced to answer, but why your wife has 2 iPhones any ways? is one not enough?

and few people don't have free brain and free time to waist on custom roms or all that stuff, they just want to use phone and after using iPhone i know its limitations and strengths now.

Plus, man take it easy, dont enforce your thoughts on others, and dont think what ever you think is absolute right for everyone, every one as different needs and brains, hence different preference for phones.

So if you tell phone one is good and phone too is crap, i will sit back and feel sorry and i will think you need time to be mature in life.

You should say my favourite phones has these benefits which other phone is not having, thats better
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] usmanxhmed:
Well dude, perfect is nothing, not iPhones scratch prone premium body, not HTC One bigger body with smaller screen as compare to S4 or its power button position, but for the like of me, who is not that rich and he save some money to buy expensive phone, its not easy feeling to buy it when he reads all this up here?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jejb:
I understand. All I can tell you is that after using mine for a week, I don't find ANY display issues at all with my S4. I think there is just a mountain being made of a mole hill, personally.

BTW, some of the "gimmicks" are useful. Like the hover thing. In certain apps, it's kind of like hovering your mouse over a thread header in this forum and getting a preview of the thread.