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[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Backups created by ONB have been failing for a number of people with a variety of (newer?) devices and ROMs. At this time, I would not recommend relying solely on ONB. For recoveries, the consensus seems to be that TWRP is currently the most dependable and, unlike CWM and Philz ,it is under active development.

Whichever method you select, I suggest you first make a backup the old fashioned way offline from your recovery. After that you can try an ONB backup but if it won't restore properly at least you can always go back to the "good" recovery-based backup. For my own phones, I have given up on ONB and the onandroid script. The minor annoyance of having to be offline for the time it takes to backup is nothing compared to potentially having to restore the whole system from scratch because an online backup failed to restore... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
+1

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
and that would be precisely my opinion too :D
[Android Apps and Games] spider623:
Works just fine from titanium backup and philz
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
Completely agreed.. just frustrating cos I've paid for the pro version of ONB (and so have many others) and therefore should be getting a working product.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Yes, it would be great if all apps remained functional and fully supported in perpetuity, but that's not very realistic. Out of curiosity, I just checked my records and discovered that I too bought the PRO version some two years ago for the exorbitant price of $0.99. If memory serves me right, I fully restored from an ONB backup at least tree times, making my effective cost per restore a whopping $0.33, saving me hours if not days of painful rebuilding of lost data. Even if I never look at ONB ever again, I'm satisfied with my return on that investment.... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
+1 , & its still good to be able to pull apps , user and system , from ONB. IMO.

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[Android Apps and Games] The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle:
When I bought a Windows 3.1 license, I thought I was set for life. But no, they won't let me have Windows 7, 8, 10. What a scam!
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Nono, you got it wrong, it's a blessing! Now go get yourself a proper OS! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle:
Lol

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[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
heck yeah !! :thumbup:

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[Android Apps and Games] Iceman_jkh:
If you're no longer supporting the app, then remove the paid PRO version. Seems reasonable and simple really.

Also, that whopping $0.99 app has cost me countless hours of aggravation with the number of faulty backups it has created even though the logs say 'completed successfully'. Sure, it's hard to keep up to date with all android versions and yes, if you're using ONB on a new android version you might expect issues. However, if you're using it on an android version that is not new and the app is claimed to be compatible with it.. then no, I don't think it's acceptable to be charging and not supporting.

/My 2 cents.

(There, now the app's cost me $1.01 :p )
[Android Apps and Games] ringen00:
Can someone confirm that encrypted backups do NOT work (finish) with TWRP 2.8.6.0?
[Android Apps and Games] spider623:
Wait the pro is not supported anymore?the trees have changed on 5.0 lol, the app will never restore properly on twrp
[Android Apps and Games] freeekbert:
Tasker plugin

Hey guys,

can anyone of you confirm a bug within the Tasker (4.6u3) plugin of ONB Pro (4.4.5) that the setting of "Disable MD5 sum" is not being rembered while creating TWRP images?

Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
I don't use Tasker and know nothing about the plugin, but since neither ONB nor onandroid seem to be currently supported, you may find it easier to edit the onandroid script to disable MD5 generation. From just glancing at the script (v. 9.5.2) , it seems that simply replacing 'generate_md5="yes"' with 'generate_md5="no"' (around line #777) would suffice. Obviously, you want to test the result before relying on any generated backup, and only after you made a full nandroid backup from recovery for safety.

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Many things no longer work and support has apparently stopped for this app. Even if you don't encrypt your backups please make sure that you can restore from them by first running a full nandroid backup from recovery.

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Unless someone jumps in and takes over ONB and onandroid support, it would be wise to switch to another backup method! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] kevinola:
can someone explain me the processes of the patch file? do I need to flash it by my self or the app does that by it self? coz i always get errors, and I sent the recovery file to the programmer of the app and he fixed the file. And didnt work either.
[Android Apps and Games] spider623:
that is the joke, cwm and philz continue to work just fine!
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Actually Philz_touch is no longer officially supported either and CWM has been very stagnant lately, but if Philz works for you in TWRP mode (i.e. can restore ONB backups) then the problem is likely to be in your TWRP version as opposed to ONB/onandroid. That said, ONB's long term future looks very bleak and it might pay to start looking for alternatives.
[Android Apps and Games] spider623:
philz got updated 3 days ago lol
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
It's still PhilZ Touch 6.59.0 (with (libtouch_gui 1.42) based on CWM 6.0.5.1(from about 1 year ago) for most devices even though there are several unofficial builds floating around. Since [MENTION=4666971]Phil3759[/MENTION] made his lib source available, anybody can "update" it but without official support.
[Android Apps and Games] freeekbert:
Thanks, it's a pity that H3R3T1C stopped developing his apps. But thanks for the hint anyway!
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
Have you (or anyone) found an "online" nandroid backup alternative?
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
I tried various alternatives but found nothing that I felt comfortable with. Some seem attractive but either only back up some and not all partitions, or take an inordinate amount of time or, worse, only work some of the time. It's easy to backup but unless it can be dependably restored, a backup is a waste of time and space, regardless of how convenient it seems to be.

I'm at ease at the shell prompt, so I've been working on some modifications of the onandroid script (we don't need no stinkin' GUI!) that show promise, but only for my devices and untested for anything else.

For my daily driver, I use scheduled backups from ROM Manager (an app I wouldn't trust much for anything else). I does a full TWRP (2.8.6.x) backup offline in the middle of the night, then reboots. It's not perfect but its backups are dependable and it requires no manual intervention. Before making any significant change I always run an additional "manual" backup from TWRP. Since I have the luxury of a 128GB SD Card, I feel confident that at least one of my backups will save me, should the Android gods unleash their fury on me... ;)
[Android Apps and Games] 954wrecker:
Check out TWRP Manager

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jmz.soft.twrpmanager

I haven't used the online backup feature because ONB still works perfectly for me. I only use twrp manager to flash things automatically without having to touch any buttons in recovery.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
Great if it works dependably for you, but that's the one I was trying not to mention when referring to online methods that only work some of the time. Even when it works, it takes forever to do a full backup for me, MUCH longer than booting to recovery, backing up, then restarting.
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
I have also been trying to use just the onandroid script. If I can get it working, I can wrap it up in Tasker and accomplish the same thing. My problem appears to be that something is incorrect in the partition layout file for my phone. I posted in the script thread but didn't get any hits. Are you versed in reading those files? I can't seem to identify the issue.

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This app did not work on my phone.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
From a quick glance at the PIT you posted in the script thread, the efs you use is indeed "only" 14336 bytes. If TWRP finds a much larger efs, that PIT is probably wrong but I haven't checked what steps Ameer had you go through. Note that AFAIK, you don't need to backup efs each time as it is pretty much fixed. One copy saved in a safe place should suffice in most cases but you still need to have a correct partition map for any backup[/restore to work right. I may look closer when time permits but no promises.
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
Actually, I never was able to get in contact with Ameer. I built the file soley based on his documentation. After I built the "new" file from scratch, I compared it to the one he provided for my phone (trltetmo) and they were identical

If you can find the time, any pointers would be much appreciated.
[Android Apps and Games] brando56894:
Well that's ****ty that they no longer work in Lollipop, I really liked them.
[Android Apps and Games] mrrocketdog:
also on KK, htc m8. no work.

"all i can really do , is stay out of my own way and let the will of heaven be done"
[Android Apps and Games] kevinola:
nobody?
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
The app will download/create a patch (basically a Partition Information Table) assuming it knows about your device. For details, check Ameer's thread, keeping in mind that backups made with this app/script have been failing to restore properly for a growing number of users. Tread carefully and always make a proper full offline nandroid backup from recovery (TWRP, preferably) first!
[Android Apps and Games] kevinola:
So its suppose to be enough with the patch, even though I sent Ameer the files to make the patch it wont fully backup and has some error.

The other thing, its that my phone an IronRock XT626 cant flash or no one successfully flashed a custom recovery. And cant even try to make a normal backup. I was hopping for this app to work.

If somebody know how to try a custom recovery without flashing it over the actual one I would be very pleased.

The thing its that the only ROM available its a easy fastboot double click flash.bat file. But there is no way to take the ROM.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
As mentioned repeatedly, both ONB and onandroid are now effectively unsupported.

I know next to nothing about your XT626 and a cursory search of XDA suggests that it's not widely in use by our membership, making it difficult to get any information, but here is definitely NOT the best thread in which to ask about it. If you have access to fastboot then you can probably boot into a custom recovery and/or perform some backups but you may want to seek guidance from other XT626 users. Happy sleuthing! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] JustusIV:
Pro user here. Wondering if there is a way to make Tasker wait until the backup is complete before proceeding to the next action. Currently i just have a wait and that is kind of janky.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
FYI, during he past few days I have been playing with early betas of [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION]'s

FlashFire

, successor to his largely obsolete Mobile Odin. It's definitely

NOT

an online backup scheme but it offers highly customizable backup/restore options more thorough than anything I've seen in the Android world short of painful 'dd' sequences, including the ability to deal with ALL partitions (hidden/protected partitions). It will probably never be the ideal choice for quick partial backups but even in its current infancy, it makes it trivially easy to preserve all those additional partitions that often get overlooked even by the best custom recoveries. Its main purpose is/will be the ability to flash without requiring a computer, but even in these early stages it shows great potentials, if only for backup/restore, and is worth checking out.
[Android Apps and Games] Technical:
I also take a look on the app. Seems not user friendly (for common backups) as it offers all partitions. Also, care, a lot of Samsung partitions can't be restored... For common users, nandroid with recovery seems the better way nowadays. In this way, I suggest Andromizer for nandroids (fully configurable inside the ROM > nandroid > reboot) and also automatic restore (although most probably if you're restoring a nandroid you're facing issues that requires restoring from recovery).
[Android Apps and Games] SJMarty:
@Mike B.

I discovered something that appears significant. I'm hoping you may have a suggestion for me...

When backing up in recovery using TWRP, the EFS partition is backed up as "efs1.emmc.win" and is about 14 MB.

When backing up using Onandroid, the EFS partition is backed up as "efs.ext4.win" and is less than 100 KB.

Any ideas?
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
This suggests that your onandroid/ONB partition map is incorrect. Since EFS is generally not needed for routine backups/restores, it might not be a major issue but an incorrect PIT can lead to more serious trouble if other partitions are similarly misidentified. If you have the time and energy, you could try several variations of that PIT using only onandroid without getting ONB involved in order to pinpoint the problem, but it might not be very easy...
[Android Apps and Games] H3R3T1C:
The app has been updated!

Version 4.1:

* Users can now manually enter backup path.

* App now shows last time script version was checked under script version.

* Fixed backup not working on some devices.
[Android Apps and Games] marbulas:
I e-mailed a bug report about this version...

Not critical but tiny and annoyning bug.
[Android Apps and Games] scapaflow1887:
Great! i like this app - thanks for all affords!
[Android Apps and Games] H3R3T1C:
I received 12 emails in the last 4 hours. Which email is yours so I know who I'm responding to.
[Android Apps and Games] marbulas:
koga********@gmail.com (12 characters in ID) is mine.

And I can't download the beta because of restricted access permission...
[Android Apps and Games] HorstiG:
Super

Thank you for your Apps!!!
[Android Apps and Games] naskar7:
Hi there,

I used Nandroid Online backup to make a backup but I'm having a problem - I cannot restore the backup I made. When I boot into CWM and click 'restore' it says No Files. When I use 'advanced restore' and browse the folder of the backup, it says 'No Files'. ES file explorer confirms there are files from my initial backup under the 'cwm/backup' folder. Any ideas? Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] meduza:
And the backup folder really contains the files? How about the size of the backup folder? Is the size realistic?

You could try and check your backup with nandroid manager. It will be interesting if the app see your backup....

m.
[Android Apps and Games] naskar7:
Thanks meduza2! I used Nandroid Manager and it was able to restore some of the apps, the others had a 'NOENT' or so error. I'm glad I was able to recover some of what I backed up!
[Android Apps and Games] meduza:
Glad to hear m8 :)

Maybe the next backup will be o.k.... .

m.
[Android Apps and Games] Innomen:
unknown path?

I'm using a pantech pocket, which as you may or may not know has no custom recovery options meaning this app is my only chance as far as I know to do a real backup while things are still working perfectly.

Problem is the backup never gets written.

It says it completes but it says the save location is unknown. I attempting to give it a path but no dice. I tried normal and selective backups. (in selective I chose everything.) Still nothing is written.

In the log everything seems to go well except mkyaffs2image not found in path! Exiting... Exit code [70]

I know of no other way to attempt a real backup of this device without a custom recovery.

Thanks for your time :)
[Android Apps and Games] horsesh:
Try changing the shell you from the settings.
[Android Apps and Games] Innomen:
Can you rephrase that or explain a bit more? I completely don't get it. Which settings? What shell? Why?
[Android Apps and Games] horsesh:
Go to settings, "select shell" and choose "default shell". It helped me successfully make a nandroid backup when I got the same error you got.
[Android Apps and Games] Innomen:
We're talking about nandroid online, fyi. And in that app as least as far as I can tell there is no reference to "shell" anywhere.

Can you screen cap where I should be able to find it so I can positively confirm it's not there?

Or maybe give step by step instructions starting with "pickup phone" :P
[Android Apps and Games] TopperBG:
Ofcourse there is shell options - Settings/Select shell as already said.

Look careful what you using pals.
[Android Apps and Games] H3R3T1C:
If you are getting the error mkyaffs2image not found in path you need to install mkyaffs2image. You can do this by going into the app settings and selecting Install mkyaffs2image.
[Android Apps and Games] Innomen:
(For those of you not born with an android user's manual (as if there's only one, heh) in your brain like bees born knowing how to dance and gather pollen, the settings menu is in fact accessed by a button in the upper right corner, a vertical ellipsis, completely unlike all the other buttons in the app, and rather counter intuitively not in fact launched by pressing the settings menu button. This is probably Pantech's fault.)

Thanks :) That would have totally solved my problem :) (I received notification while I was composing this reply, and after the backup had completed.)

Feature request: In future make checking for and if need be installing this dependency part of the process?

Now, next question, how do I install this from as bricked a phone as this kind of recovery can tolerate? I ask because the Pantech Pocket doesn't have a custom recovery. Can this app produce a backup image somehow usable by default recovery or is default recovery not capable? Or what?

Google is being less then helpful because common nandroid results are drowning out nandroid online results (which is basically just this thread according to my admittedly weak search fu.)

I ask because it seems this phone is "special" (By special I may mean "crappy.") >.>
[Android Apps and Games] ladalgigi:
Can't backup

Hi

I've got a backup problem

My phone is HTC Desire X, rooted, and rom is mysensdx+ rc2.0, busybox version is 1.20.2 stericson, and recovery is NexusPrime TWRP 2.5.0.0 build 2.

I can backup using directly twrp but when I want to backup with Online Nandroid Backup, it ends immediatly and the log is :

Starting backup...

Running with the following commands: -o --twrp --utc --storage /mnt/sdcard -me -ce -pd

Using ash Shell

exitcode [2]

So as you said I've tried using default shell but the result is the same except exitcode is 127.

Any idea for help ?

Thanks :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] Breach1337:
Just installed it but on my I9505 I get zero sized data, system, etc and the backup completes in seconds... Here's the log:

Starting backup...

Running with the following commands: -o --twrp --phone --storage /storage/extSdCard -me -ce -pd

Using Default Shell

##########################################

Online Nandroid Backup v8.20

* A tool to perform a nandroid backup

without booting into recovery.

* It is fully compatible with nandroid.

* Type 'onandroid --help' for usage

instructions.

* Created by Ameer Dawood

##########################################

02:09:57 Using busybox from: /data/data/com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup/files/busybox

02:09:57 Checking for root permissions...

02:09:57 Root permissions acquired!

02:09:57 Analysing battery level...

02:09:57 Sufficient battery available!

02:09:57 Checking version of BusyBox installed...

02:09:57 BusyBox version 1.20 or above installed!

02:09:57 Searching for SD card...

02:09:57 Alternate storage media provided!

02:09:57 This device has a patch file installed!

02:09:57 TWRP backup mode selected at run time!

02:09:57 Checking for required tools...

02:09:57 All required tools available!

02:09:58 Checking disk space...

02:09:59 SD Card Free Space: 13191 MB

02:09:59 Required Space: 5324 MB

02:09:59 Necessary disk space available!

02:09:59 Detecting mountpoints to exclude...

02:09:59 Backing up to /storage/extSdCard/TWRP/BACKUPS/c10edb8f/2013-07-15--02-09-57

02:09:59 Backing up /boot.....

02:10:01 Backing up /recovery.....

02:10:03 Backing up /system....

02:10:06 Backing up /data....

02:10:08 Backing up /cache....

02:10:10 Backing up /efs....

02:10:12 Backing up /.android_secure....

02:10:14 Backing up /sd-ext....

02:10:19 Generating md5sum for and-sec.vfat.win....

02:10:20 Generating md5sum for boot.emmc.win.....

02:10:23 Generating md5sum for cache.ext4.win....

02:10:24 Generating md5sum for data.ext4.win....

02:10:25 Generating md5sum for efs.ext4.win....

02:10:26 Generating md5sum for recovery.emmc.win.....

02:10:30 Generating md5sum for sd-ext.ext4.win....

02:10:31 Generating md5sum for system.ext4.win....

02:10:33 Online Nandroid Backup Completed in 0 minutes 36 seconds!

exitcode [0]
[Android Apps and Games] pdppdp:
Hi

I'm saving all my app backups in /storage/sdcard1/Backup Files/... I now created a TWRP folder inside but the backups always fail. When I just choose /storage/sdcard1/ it works fine and saves to storage/sdcard1/TWRP/BACKUPS/<device>.

I'm just asking this because My Backup Files folder gets synced every night with my nas (using foldersync or synchronize ultimate) and it would be easier to handle this.
[Android Apps and Games] Gerxp:
Backup will not work. I am getting a message that the disk space is not enough.

The log says required space is 16862MB while I have 10050MB...

I am using AntaresOne CM12 rom with Alucard kernel in Multirom.

It is working fine on Kitkat CarbonRom in Multirom.

Tried a different shell but that doesnt work either.
[Android Apps and Games] marcooleo:
I have no custom recovery, i believe there is none to the Cube U25GT-W4 Rockchip Rk312x tablet. I have root and busybox installed and also i use Link2Sd, the other partition on the ext-sd card is Ext4. So my question is can i even do a backup with this app? I bought it a while ago and works fine on cellphones, but i cannot take any bigger risk to screw this tablet up. Also if someone knows if there is any recover out there that works with this tablet i would be very grateful.
[Android Apps and Games] Mike B.:
It's unlikely that you would be able to successfully backup your device with this app or even the original script unless you're extremely familiar with its partitioning scheme. That said, a Google search suggests that there are versions of both CWM and TWRP recoveries as well as custom ROMs for the RK3126. It also seems that it's possible to flash firmware via Rockship-specific flashing tools but you'd have to research the matter carefully before proceeding.

While a full Nandroid backup might not be realistic, you could at least backup most user data and apps with Titanium Backup or a similar tool. A partial backup is better than no backup! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] darkshadowz9858:
useful!

very useful! great app!
[Android Apps and Games] joeshmoe666:
[Q] F2FS

I'm using a Nexus 7 (Grouper) and currently running Optipo 5.1.. I have data and cache formated to f2fs. System is formated to ext4.

I always wipe everything before I restore a backup, They never restore properly with everything formated like this. I get zero errors but always the bootloops.

When I have data, cache AND system formated to f2fs, No problems at all.

Can you explain this to me?
[Android Apps and Games] scoobydu:
Nice app, but I wondered if dropbox upload was possible at all?

Thanks in advance