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[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
Yes, likewise, several restarts every day. I looked at logcat output this morning, and I see a bunch of lines like this:

W/PackageManager(19251): Unknown permission com.google.android.gallery3d.permission.GALLERY_PROVIDER in package com.android.email

W/PackageManager(19251): Unknown permission android.permission.READ_INTERNAL_STORAGE in package tunein.player....

W/PackageManager(19251): Not granting permission android.permission.READ_LOGS to package com.electricsheep.asi (protectionLevel=50 flags=0x8be44)....

But I have no idea if that has anything to do with the soft reboots. I'm not seeing any clear "crash" or "reboot" kind of error. It almost looks like the crash/reboot stuff has rotated out of the logs by the time I run logcat. Everything that I see looks like it's entries for apps starting up.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
The one big issue I seem to be having with 7/19 is excessive battery bleed in sleep mode. The Nook went from the best Android device to the worst in that regard. I was averaging 1% over about nine hours. The last several times leaving the device alone have been over 15%. I left this morning and the device was at 75%, but is now 58% as example.

I am tempted to go back to an earlier build, but then some games did not work.... Not sure what to do here but hope Very has a chance to recapture the sleep mode low battery bleed magic in a future rom update. That or return it for a Nexus 7 1080p. Catch is no sd card, smaller display and $106 more.... Meh, I think I will wait for a rom update.

Added: I think 7/16 was good with the Dalvik tweaks. Catch is I did not leave the Nook unplugged when not using it to know if that rom had bad sleep mode battery bleed or not.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
I'm wishing and hoping he's just too busy working on 10.2 to spend much time on the thead
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] e.mote:
To give a different perspective: I'm a "casual" user, as I don't play intensive games, do mostly reading/browsing, and don't run many apps concurrently. I don't notice any lag; my overnight standby loss is typically well under 5%, and I don't (never) experience soft reboots. Not to say that these problems don't exist, but I never notice them. I do notice some glitches in use, but they are relatively minor with simple workarounds (like a restart). Am running on 7/19.

For lag, it may partly be a matter of expectation, as casual users would be more tolerant of any UI hesitation than hardcore people. Of the multiple Nooks I've handed out to the folks (all are "casuals"), I've not heard any complaint on this score.

For excessive standby power loss or soft reboots, the techsupp in me says it's probably app-related rather than OS-related, as reports are sporadic and not pervasive. It's a hassle, but I'd suggest clean install as the first troubleshooting step. Before installing all your apps back in, see if the problem remains with a barebone installation.

This isn't to trivialize the issues reported. It's just my sense that Android the OS itself is a WIP, as are the apps, and for users pushing the envelope, things will break.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
True dat. Android is a perpetual WIP.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
I totally agree. I only use mine for light browsing, reading this forum and light development work. No gaming. I never have any lag or reboots and my battery life is fantastic.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
Very might be taking a break and perhaps focus is on 10.2.

The sleep mode battery drain went away, so must have been a funky app issue. I changed back to deadline, since CFQ caused games like GTA to play sllllloooooooowwwwww. The only funky tweak I

have is setting only three maximum background processes. Perhaps a placebo, but seems to be working fine beyond some sporadic lag when opening apps. It is not that much an issue now and the function

of most gaming, comics, mags, video, web and Flash are fine.

No doubt though that I would not have this tablet were it not for Very and other devs efforts. Stock 2.1 has more lag and is a library syncing, stuttery mess.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jack45:
No question about it. BN should pay him (them) for helping to clear out the retail channel.

I, as others, don't exercise the device to the point that it becomes overloaded with processes. Browsing, weather, reading books, the occasional movie, email. That's it. Latest addition: Control of Google's new Chromecast device as well as related selection of TV or HD+ delivery of movies via the Netflix app.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] razholio:
in what way was it bricked? reboot from SD-recovery bricked or perform special computer -> usb magic bricked?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
It would not boot to emmc at all. His partitions got messed up. He could boot to SD recovery, but that was all.

Look here.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] :
Edit: haha reboot. Fail. Didn't work. I'm out of ideas. This must have to be fixed at a lower level.

Reboots have been better while I was testing less apps installed. I recently, reinstalled a bunch and am running advanced task killer with crazy and half hour settings to see what happens. Had one while web browsing but it could have been trying to kill it while in use... so testing now with firefox ignored and no reboot this far... see what happens. Just have been busy so testing has been limited.

Cm10.1 has errors show up on my phone (though different ones) and thinking don't read too much into errors. They all can't be fixed and they will happen regardless and many do not cause reboots. The phone has none except for manual ones.

Not really and yes. I can and have loaded my two year old or so phone up with more apps and services than this tablet and it has no problem surpassing this tablet. Part of the purpose of this tablet was to offload some apps for better battery life.

Battery use can drain fast when an app or apps use it especially in the background for notifications, etc. Barely using any device regardless of tablet, phone, laptop... anything, will always yield more battery life.

If I went back to old use of my phone, the battery could last for 3-4 days. Right now its 1-2 and prior to the tablet it was a one day tops - few hours (obviously) with full use. If I really went for battery saving I could probably reach 5+ days on the phone's battery... but then I would barely be using it and what good is that? No good at all.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] champrock:
I am using the latest release (07/19).

Facing an issue with bluetooth headset which was present in earlier versions as well but never found a solution to it, so posting it again. I have tried this with threedifferent bluetooth headsets so i am pretty sure its not a model specific issue. the models i tried with are BlueAnt Z9i, Samsung WEP470 and Jabra Extreme.

In nutshell, bluetooth headset does not work. Here are the details:

1. Pairing with Nook HD+ is flawless. Nook shows connected.

2. MP3 player: does not play sound in bluetooth headset. it just plays using speaker.

3. Default Sound recorder app: does not record when device is connected. even the internal mic stops working. (so, i assume some kind of a connection is being made with the bluetooth but Mic output from bluetooth is not recorded)

4. Google hangout: When device is connected, no audio comes from external speakers nor bluetooth earphone. Internal mic and bluetooth mic both stop working. Similar is the case with Skype.

Any ideas on possible workarounds?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
Likewise... except for the soft reboots, which seem to be happening more and more frequently. Seems like the next step is to try a wipe data / factory reset. I'm hoping there's a cm10.2 version for the Nook HD+ soon. If I'm going to do a clean install, I'd really like to do it with 10.2 :)

And, PS, even with the reboots, cm10.1 is still way, way better than stock
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
my reactions from loading cm10 7/19 on a brand new nook hd+.

1) When charging and using the tablet I was getting a lot of screen flickering (especially when in settings of cm10)

2)once unplugged, everything is smooth, and had no reboots, or flickering. I'm also not noticing any random app lag people are talking about. I'm running stock launcher, with most google apps installed.

3) after setting wifi to always off while sleep, I'm getting similar results to the stock 2.1.

that's it! other than the flickering screen while charging, this rom is running beautifully for me, and I'm very happy. Thank you verygreen!

ps. is there any way to make sm10 boot start centered? if I load custom boot animation, will it also be first out of whack?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] e.mote:
I'm not looking to go to Android 4.3 (CM 10.2) any time soon. From a usability view, it's currently worse than 4.2, as it breaks many apps, per reports from the N7 2013 forums. There are dev-level enhancements, but those will take months to show up in apps. 4.3 is a fairly lackluster update. About the only useful function I see is TRIM support, which hopefully will be backported to CM 10.1.

Again, my view is from a casual user who values stability over bleeding-edge.

I'm surprised that it took Goog 9 months for the fairly minor enhancements in 4.3, given its previous fast pace. Perhaps more was done on the back-end than at the user level. My guess is that 5.0 is being developed in parallel, which will bring more substantive improvements, and 4.3 was more of a maintenance update. Hopefully we'll see 5.0 early next year.

There is a silver lining to Android's slower update pace. It affords JB more time to gain critical mass, and allows the Android tablet ecosystem to standardize on it. This reduces fragmentation and helps platform growth.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
So, I backed up my oft-soft-rebooting installation, and made the leap to wipe data / factory reset, and that seems to have cured the reboots, woo woo!

(but what a pain it is to restore all those poor little apps. it'd be a lot easier if amazon wasn't so anal about drm, so that I have to re-download almost all the books I've bought from them. luckily I've got a lot of opensource books :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] monkey3ddd:
Was getting random reboots. Unistalled Google maps and not sure if I've had any reboots since, pretty sure it's helped.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] acdcking12345:
How do you set it for only 3 active processes?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
I have google maps, along with many other apps installed and no problems whatsoever (I have gps turned of from location settings though).

Furthermore, I tried to load as many apps as I could into memory and see if it would cause any reboots. nothing after an hour, so setting 3apps max, is not the solution (although nook might feel snappier).

I really recommend those of you who have reboots, to go through the whole process again.

Only thing that could explain those soft reboots some of you have, is that your nooks don't like the lowered voltages that came with 7/19 update. As you know every chip is different, and it's the only logical explanation (assuming the rom was installed correctly)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] fgarvin:
Settings> Developer options> scroll down to Apps> Background
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
one more thing I'm curious about. Why in build prop we have "BN NookHD+" instead of "BNTV600"?

If some apps add support for nook hd+ then, they probably make it compatible with the maker and model names from the stock original build prop

maker: BN LLC

model: BNTV600

or am I missing something?

update: After 7 hours or so, I finally got a soft reboot. so much for my theory...
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] hondoslack:
Bluetooth stack issues: pairing mice

I noticed in the Q&A area a thread with someone having issues with CM10.1 and pairing mice. I too am having issues with 7/19 build, here is a post with logcat of failed pair, and successful pair of same mouse on my SG3 running paranoid 3.69.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44161986&postcount=4

I know this falls into the depths of not being able to reproduce/test, but, maybe the bluetooth stack is slightly borked in the cm branch you pulled from for this build? Hopefully the logcat can shed some light on the issue.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] grivad:
That could be, except I've been getting reboots with every version since 07/06. It's not frequent, but it does happen. Hoping for it to happen again somewhat so I can catch something in the logs. I did notice that Very had updated both TWRP and CWM surreptitiously, so I've installed the latest TWRP and reinstalled the ROM/flushed caches/fixed permissions again to see if there's any improvement in stability.

ROM is definitely installed correctly.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] e.mote:
>Only thing that could explain those soft reboots some of you have, is that your nooks don't like the lowered voltages that came with 7/19 update.

I agree with this. If voltages were lowered, suggest they be set back to default for next build, to see if problem is minimized.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] SCWells72:
It appears that TRIM will help with the lag, especially the build-up of lag over (a fairly short period of) time. Look at post #10 on this thread for a way to have this in 4.2 until we have access to a 4.3 ROM:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2381920

If you look at my response in post #11, I can personally attest to the results of running an fstrim on /data and /cache (I haven't tried /system yet) as an immediate improvement in apps that had degraded to the point of being unusable, in particular Flipboard and Chrome. Along with some of the other tips from this thread and others (disable zRam completely being a key one), the HD+ with CM10.1 is running pretty well now. I still wonder if overclocking the CPU (I know the GPU is the main bottleneck) and perhaps setting the color depth to 16-bit in the kernel (different from 16-bit transparency setting) would help further, though...
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ipilcher:
Anyone know what's new in the 8/1 build?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
So, I finally broke down and did a clean reinstall of 7/19 yesterday, and haven't had a single soft reboot since. I installed Maps and left gps turned on, so neither of those was the problem. It seems there must have been some kind of cruft that had built up over the many versions since I initially installed the Hybrid version, way back when. Anyway, as tedious as it is, I'd highly recommending doing a clean install of 7/19 for anybody who's having those soft reboots.

EDIT: I see there's an 8/1 version now, so I'm assuming that'll be even better than the 7/19 I mention above. I'm backing up and will install it in a few minutes and will let you know how it goes

EDIT2: 8/1 installed, and it's been up for 2 or 3 minutes without a reboot, so.... I'll report back later
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] nimaim:
Is the only update with this the data usage fix? If so, I'll keep 7/19 because I'm getting amazing performance and battery out of my HD+ with it with no soft reboots as others have experienced. Thanks for a solid ROM verygreen.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ilal2ielli:
Tells you what's new under changelog in the first post.

"Data usage display should work now"
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
Maybe I'll just try it when I get home or take the not broken dont fix approach. hmmm....
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
Just be careful with that app. One user bricked his device while using it. See my post in this thread yesterday.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] ayman86:
experienced 2 reboots so far (7/19). both when i tried to install an app from the play store. after the reboot, i could install it fine. dont remember what the app was
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
Soft reboots happen usually wh3n using google app. For me it was during play store installing app, or randomply during browsing in chrome. Was data usage the only thing changed in 8/1? I dont care about it so debating whether it makes sens3 updaring from 7/19
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] verygreen:
It just works.

Don't forget tu turn one the ps3 controller, that took me awhile to figure out (press the triangle shaped "Start button" after you plug the controller in).

You don't need any special apps for it to work too.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] verygreen:
Teh too many open files issue is definitely related to some sort of gmaps service.

Supposedly if you disable location service in settings, it goes away.

Also new gmaps update from marked supposedly fixes this s well, but I have never experienced it myself so I can only report what others are seeing in this area.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] helousn:
Let me add my warning to using the fstrim app... I have now hard bricked my Nook HD+ rather than waiting for CM10.2.. my impatience has cost me dearly... DO NOT USE on Nook HD+...
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] verygreen:
You can trivially unbrick by booting from emmc, assuming you have backup of your /factory and /rom partitions.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] alexb54:
You'll need a USB Hub also to make it work. An unpowered hub is fine for the PS3 controller.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
Just updated to the 0801 verygreen rom and everything is good so far.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] soshite:
bump. No new updates still the same thing. If anyone can help that'd be great
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
might be a long shot but try to fix permissions
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
Is the spinning cm logo coming from stock rom or another cm rom? If coming from stock, you need to clear factory reset and then do the zip in cw recovery I vaguely remember it would keep spinning on my Nook tablet when I did not do that step. May be worth a shot.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
I am still using 7/19 but the wifi has gotten slow again and has little spurts where it speeds up. Same with router or tethering with my S4. This is the first device I have had such erratic wifi. I can put up with all issues but flaky wifi. I used to have no problem streaming hi def from IMDB, but now it is mainly a static picture followed by a second or two of playback. The wifi issues did not start until 7/12 rom. Catch is the roms before that had other issues.

Not adding up.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
You are mixing SD install things with emmc install things. Early 7.2 is for SD installs so the /data you are clearing is on the SD. This is an emmc thread.

I suggest you start fresh just using the files from just this thread if you want CM10.1 on emmc.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
I had slightly better speeds on my wireless-n wifi network on stock 2.1 than on 7/19, but I'm still able to stream 25gb 1080p mkv from home network without slowdowns
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
It seems all over the place and is good one day and bleh the next. Good point about straight feed wifi. I will test my Seagate wifi hard drive that I use with my tablets.

Frustrating. This tablet is like a bipolar girlfriend ;) The display is the beguiling appeal :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] grivad:
Was just reading updates to the thread using XDA app on the HD+ to see if there were any new suggestions for soft reboots, then went to the first page to get the updated build, and lo and behold, soft reboot when I chose Chrome to download it, and it's now locked at the CM boot screen. The screen shut off after a second, then came back on when I held the power.. the animation seemed to move forward a bit then locked again. Rebooting and will check/post logs.

Edit: Using Android System Info app, it only shows me logs since it booted. Blast. Any recommended log viewer which will keep/display an ongoing aggregate?

Edit2: Got aLogCat and aLogRec and granted READ_LOGS to both using

pm grant [package] android.permission.READ_LOGS

Logs can be seen now but still can only see logs since boot. I wish there were a consistent way to cause the reboot so I could use aLogRec to capture what's up... I'll keep testing.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
Jumped to 08/01, seems okay so far.

Put me as one 08/01 success.

Only did a mercy install (just deleted dalvik and cache and install zip)

Seems snappier now, but I don't know if it was the cache deletion or the update.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
quick question, when I format sd card in this cm build, what file system will it use? fat32?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jbbandos:
I now have the latest maps, and reboots seem to have reduced a lot. I'll see if I can catch the next one, maybe I'll leave the nook connected to a laptop running "adb logcat".
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] NicoleC:
Strangely, I haven't had a reboot since I posted that log file.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spoonman326:
I have tried searching for this as well, is no one else having this issue? I often need to use my nook at full brightness and with the overheating it's causing major battery drain... my battery last 10+ hours if left at 75% or lower brightness but only 2-3hrs if above 76%.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dbrickg:
My soft reboots were completely cured (knock on wood) by a clean install. The nook hasn't rebooted for over 2 days now. It used to reboot regularly, about once an hour or so. I suspect there was just a lot of cruft from all the installs that finally left it unstable.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gharlane00:
+1 to this. I did a full wipe and clean install of 8/01 build yesterday and have not had a soft reboot in 19 hours. Have had many apps open simultaneously including weather and sports widgets that update every few minutes. Prior to the full wipe I was seeing 3-5 soft reboots a day and was beginning to despair that I was going to just have to learn to live with it. I restored all my app data with Titanium after the market reloaded them all. Setup is exactly like I had it and no more reboots.

Anyone who is experiencing random reboots needs to start over from scratch.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] grivad:
I'll give this a shot this weekend and will report if issues crop up again.. thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bxlegend:
Nook HD & Nook HD+ will be receiving official CM support.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] lentm:
If that's true, that will be awesome!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] izi975:
Here is the link to G+ https://plus.google.com/u/0/117962666888533781522/posts/hHKqw4zU3vZ
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
that's amazing. always good to have some official support for the device, but verygreen's latest build works pretty darn good as it is:)

---------- Post added at 03:52 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:11 AM ----------

verygreen, you should really put this in the first post, it happened in 7/19 and now in 8/1

"DO NOT enable "wallpaper quick render" in launcher settings, it will create a infinite boot next time you reboot system. if you are already at this point, then boot into recovery and wipe dalvik & cache. Once booted into cm10, disable "wallpaper quick render" in launcher settings"

hope that info will helps some
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] bxlegend:
It's already in their repo for 10.2.

https://github.com/cyanogenmod/android_device_bn_ovation
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
I doubt average joe, checks what's new on github:)