yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[LG Optimus Me P350] yaymalaga:
I've got a question, in android 4.2.2, they introduced the RSA fingerprint, so you have to accept it by using "adb devices", but what happend, if I want to do a logcat in the first boot? I've tried to do it, and obviously, i couldn't, so what can I do?
[LG Optimus Me P350] nerotNS:
Well for starters you gotta enable debugging. And I've never had to accept the fingerprint on my device. I think that's in Android 4.3 Even in the developer options I don't see the "forget" option like I do on my nexus 4.
[LG Optimus Me P350] delingo:
Languagepack works fine. But I have a problem, when I´m going to start the phone. Sometimes I wipe the dalvik cache as a last chance - for me- to start CM. Often the screen is black and I think the LG hangs.

Oh I read just: it´s a kernel bug. :(
[LG Optimus Me P350] Shaka96:
This is isn "t caused by the language pack but cm10.1 itself.

So reboot from recovery without wipe And try
[LG Optimus Me P350] najjurocks619:
Is It Necessary To Flash A Kernel Before Installing This Rom??

I Have Stock Kernel And It Is First Time I am Going To Flash Rom On This Device
[LG Optimus Me P350] paulo.delavega:
No, just the rom.
[LG Optimus Me P350] najjurocks619:
one more Thing, i Have Flashed The Rom and Encountered Two Problems

1)Bluetooth Isn't Working, As Soon As I Try To Open It Gets Closed.

2)Android Keyboard, I Can't Type Any Thing The Android Keyboard App Isn't Opening.

Is There A Fix For Both The Prob??

Thanx In Advance
[LG Optimus Me P350] najjurocks619:
Bluetooth Fix,Gps Fix,Wifi Battery Drains and Android Keyboard Isn't Opening

Guys I Need Urgent Help, Can Anyone Provide Me Bluetooth Fix For This Rom As Soon As I Turn It On It Gets Off.

Also, i Want GPS Fix, And Turning On Wifi Battery Drains Out, Is There A Fix For It??

Thanx In Advance.
[LG Optimus Me P350] Shaka96:
gps fix here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43447832&postcount=79

wifi battery drain is not fixed.
[LG Optimus Me P350] najjurocks619:
Thanx For It But What About Bluetooth

My Bluetooth Isn't Working How To Fix It??
[LG Optimus Me P350] Shaka96:
Here is working good

Inviato dal mio n5 proveniente da Marte :D
[LG Optimus Me P350] najjurocks619:
I Reflashed the rom and its now working but i am now having problem with screen getting frozen every time i lock for a long time, it's ghosting and the screen become unresponsive so i have to factory reset every time is there any solution for this??
[LG Optimus Me P350] Shaka96:
This is a bug of the rom. Flash cm7 if y want a stable rom.

Please read the op and the faq before flashing

Inviato dal mio n5 proveniente da Marte :D
[LG Optimus Me P350] thedeadfish59:
Can ya guys work for galaxy y too? :(
[LG Optimus Me P350] Chameleon950:
This ROM have Polish language or existing posibility translate ROM?
[LG Optimus Me P350] frey.derico:
hi guys, Optimus me is my first smartphone i had :)
[LG Optimus Me P350] atharvap323@gmail.com:
Mine also, but bro now we can't use it!
[LG Optimus Me P350] frey.derico:
hehehe yes, its old device
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] mytrutz:
I have a Samsung galaxy y duos GT-S6102 and after a reset it i can't connect my device at pc. i've tried with a samsung kies too and didn't work. Some solution?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] R3jectZ:
Install the Samsung USB Drivers.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Siddharthag:
here's a solution

hey brthr it must be showing widows doesnt recognize due to malfunction isnt it first in computer properties then device mngr then disable all usb then uninstall all drivers n then restart ur pc n connct ur phone to pc then its cnnctd...
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Dev3105:
Uninstall The Drivers and Reinstall it.It Worked For Me

Dnt Forget To Click Thanks:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
I made a underwater test with my Xperia Z in the pool and wanted to share with you all.

I can say no problems.

Submerged it deeper than 1m.(So 1m50cm)

You can't press anything on the screen when the phone is underwater.

I made the images pressing the volume rocker(Camera Zoom FX app)

If you want to ask something more about this,don't be shy.I'll answer :p

Here are some images of me and my friends

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video(sorry because it's not in landscape): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGdHqqvPw7I&feature=youtube_gdata_player

new video(20.08.13): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvkABMufQfQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Aman27deep:
Nice images :)
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Thanks :D

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Taking underwater pictures sounds fun :) Thanks for testing it for us - lets hope Sony will include volume shutter in the next update.
[Xperia Z General] Smartphoner:
Thanks a lot for sharing your experience!!

I bet it was fun!
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
No problem :)

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] vibecatalin:
Very nice, can't wait to test mine in my friend's swimming pool. Thanks
[Xperia Z General] ilgreco112:
underbeer test has also been made =p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqJJEppsw5E
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
I think that the Xperia Z can go under the sea too(salt water) without any problems.

But,washing it after with clean water.

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Ryland Johnson:
I respectfully and strongly suggest you read with care and attention the manual that came with the XZ ad the threads written on this forum regarding water resistance.

You CANNOT take your mobile into a swimming pool. For the sake of sounding like a parrot I will again write water resistance is far from being water proof PLUS chemicals will affect the water resistance functionality as will temperature and water force regardless of depth. Take a look at some of my more detailed post on this subject, you could save yourself a fortune.

Regards.
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Yeah, but you know, the manual is also just a guide.

The guide only gives us the conditions that the phone can/needs to handle in order to meet some certain points. For example to be water/dust resistant/proof.

The manual states that you can hold the phone under water with a depth of 1m. Well I'm 99% sure that if you held the phone 2meters under water nothing spectacular would happen, after a while tho the pressure could become too much for the phone. Same goes for the 30min mark, if you hold the phone 31minutes under water doesn't mean that it will suddenly start to leak.

And yes, I know that we're talking about sea/chemical water here, but we've seen numerous videos of people filming while they are in a pool or in an ocean/sea and nothing happened to the phone. If something might happen then it's their own fault of course.

One last note: Lets say you hold the phone under water (depth 50cm or something) after a few minutes/seconds you take your phone out of the water and you notice that your phone has water damage. So you send the device to be repaired, who do you think has going to pay for the costs of the reparation? It will be you... even though you didn't violate the the rules that were stated in the manual.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
[MENTION=4520398]Ryland Johnson[/MENTION]

You are right.

I readed it all.It says no swimming pool,no sea water.No submerging,nothing.

I understand what you wanted to say with water resistance.

But I was curious to find out can it go underwater in a swimming pool cause I saw some videos on youtube. ;)

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Yes,we will pay the reparation if the water goes in the ports and make the white marks red.

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Ryland Johnson:
I can see where you are coming from and to an extent agree. Point is in your ultimate paragraph. You write the real world consequences of water ingress in the XZ. It will be the client who pays and why? Because so many of the claims will be due to genuine abuse.

With regard to the chemicals from a swimming pool and salt from the sea, of course the damage done will not be immediately obvious but over time it will be as the seals will become less and less efficient and start to perish. The XZ has an advantage over most other top end similar mobiles in that it can be exposed to a degree of water be that rain or dampness, a degree of dust also BUT the fact is the XZ is still not a commercial mobile and still needs to be treated and respected as a technical device that is still very vulnerable in many areas.

To ME to take the XZ into a shower or swimming pool is absurd? Why would a customer do that in the first place? Who uses a mobile phone IN the shower? Now one takes a shower and leaves the mobile inside the bath room and with wet hands replies that's its real strength. Its not an underwater camera either as we are seeing on this very site.

I guess we will all as customers have to pay our cash and accept the consequences of our actions. It IS a shame some abuse such a wonderful device. I think we are going to read more and more threads regarding owners having water damage with this phone. I still maintain it has been poorly marketed and Sony have given the wrong impression of the XZ's true capabilities.

Kind regards.

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I understand, there are many clips now of owners doing the most absurd things possible to the XZ like dropping a lump hammer onto it or dropping it on the floor numerous times to see how many times it can be dropped before it breaks!

As long as we understand some of these clips are taken by rather 'challenged' people then we would be best to avoid copying them .

If you look after your devices they should look after you.:)

Best advise is to treat the XZ as one would any other device of this nature and not expose it to deliberate situations where it may become damaged. If the XZ comes accidently into contact with some water it should be fine.

Rgeards
[Xperia Z General] eniux:
Though I agree with most of what you wrote, the first thing I did with this phone was make a phone call in the shower. and it still works fine, nice and clean too.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
This is a debatable section. Why would someone take a phone into the shower? Well lets just leave that in the middle, some people just like to take their phones with them when they take a shower. Of course the phone doesn't get wet in those situations. I know many people that take their phones with them because they can listen to music that way, I never got why people did that, but it's just my point of view. Just like I don't see why people use their phone while they are taking a dump, it's all based on the person.

When you take the phone (non water proof) with you in the shower (Not wetting it of course) it's also bad because of the condense.

Anyways... let me get back to the story....

Why this is a debatable subject: What is the difference when rain falls on the phone and when you take a shower? Not everyone showers with hot water, and I believe that's the only reason why showering with the phone isn't advised. Taking a shower with the phone is the same as rain falling on the phone, they are just drops. 1 from a tap as the source and the other has clouds as the source.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
You must have a weak shower. Mine would knock the phone from my hand (if I was silly enough to bring it in there), so a bit more powerful than a few droplets of rain :D
[Xperia Z General] Ryland Johnson:
What makes the difference in water resistance under all circumstances be it a submarine to the XZ is pressure and movement. I have no doubt if the XZ was used in a hurricane with xxx force winds and rain water may enter the phone? The other problem is the soap we use in the shower. This can also degrade the seals on the XZ?

I still maintain the point of all this is ones intent. Accidental water contact to a degree should be fine but to deliberately 'test' the phone is perhaps not a good idea? Its human nature after seeing some of the Sony clips to try it out but......Not for me, I keep my XZ well away from water and think of the water resistance properties as some small form of accident insurance nothing more.

Regards

---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Ditto.

---------- Post added at 09:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:24 PM ----------

Thinking about this how is it possible? Do you mean actually using the phone while in the shower under running water? The noise from the water would make it difficult to hear or be heard PLUS as soon as the speaker and microphone on the XZ get wet the performance of both are drastically reduced until they are dried out? Did you actually wash your phone, I mean like soap and hot water?:eek:
[Xperia Z General] eniux:
the earspeakers and microphone work just fine under the shower, I called a friend there this morning :) well obviously it depends on how you shower I guess, my head isn't underwater the whole time.

just rinsed it with water, never use soap stuff gets all greasy then ;)

Sent from my galaxy nexus
[Xperia Z General] waveloom:
I've taken my XZ in Thermal Waters in Saturnia:

http://www.termedisaturnia.it/en/

I've spent 8 hours there, i've always kept the phone with me, in everty attraction of the Termal resort, iven in depth till 5 meters,

in the hot waterfalls, in the swimming pool all the time, also in the descending course and in the pool with the mud.

I made several calls around, also playd with Internet to check email, and made several shots (i can post some).

In the evening in rinsed the phone with warm water to clean from mud and from SULFUR (there was sulfuric water).

- Perfect -
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Ya it's possible no doubt, but what Ryland Johnson meant is that in the end/after a while you will notice the side effects because of that.
[Xperia Z General] waveloom:
I definitively don't think so.

I think that to damage seals you have to keep the phone in altered PH for something like 1000 hours.

That's the time that high PH takes to melt plastic (salt at 0.5%, chloride at 0.003%, sulphur at 0.05%, and other chemicals normally in water).

That's would not occur in the entire lifespan of the phone.. as long as we are not fishes, and the exposure to water will be very limited for all of us.

I think it is safe to play with the phone in all kind of water all the time you like... i would just recommend to rinse after use and add an additional film to the screen or at least, do not remove the shatterproof film, as long as salt or chloride may affect glass clarity with time and time, xpecially if you take the phone to the sea all the summer.

IPX Certifications are serious things. Pressure is another matter, 30 minutes in one meter, means at least 10 minutes till 10 meters.. but i would not recomment using this phone for deep immersion with oxygen tanks. That's what is meant to be water resistant instead than water proof.

What that guy describes is a "splash proof" phone, but family like iPhone4/5 and Galaxy S2/S3 are already splash proof..

Iphone 4S immersion test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKoMw-pMhg0

Galaxy S3 vs IPhone water test:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If8G3UxeV-8

but they are not responsive to full immersion (beside, full immersion test have been passed from some of that phones) but the Sony XZ is really far from them.

Xperia Z: Chocolate test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE79SD9xtRo
[Xperia Z General] egzthunder1:
Uhmmm.... what?

High pH on a sulphur aqueous solution would denote the presence of an acid such as H2SO4, for Chloride, you are likely looking at HCl.... both of these are acids, which have low pH, not high (the lower the pH, the more acidic it is). Higher pH equates to alkaline (or basic) solutions. Salt in water... what salt? Salt is a very common term for a chemical compound and most of these are pH neutral. If you are talking about NaCl, regardless of how much salt you put in your "solution" your pH will still be 7. Seawater has a pH that lingers between 7 and 8... mother nature is wise as anything much higher or much lower would effectively wipe out any and all life in the ocean.

No. Chemical attack could (and does occur) instantly. It is not a matter of concentration (although higher concentrations do not help) but rather chemical compatibility between the seals and the wetting chemical. Seals (unless welding is used) are normally elastomers or metal seals. The latter are normally impervious to chemical attack (SS316L and Inconel 625 for instance have high chemical resistance). Having said that, metal seals are normally used for valving, manifolds, etc. Most/all other applications requiring some form of sealing is done with rubber/elastomer gaskets. There are various types, many of which have different properties and resistance to chemical attacks of different kinds.

Exposing an elastomer to a chemical that is incompatible with it, will lead to an immediate attack. The rate of the reaction (again) will depend on chemical species, presence of catalysts (either chemical or in the form of energy such as heat) and several other factors. Also, the moment you hurt the integrity of the seal, regarless of how little, your seals become compromised and as such you are no longer protected as per manufacturer's specifications. The only solution is to change the seals in question. You do not need to let the seal dissolve completely for leaks to spring.

Sorry but this makes no sense. The film is not impervious to chemical attack. In fact, you will likely have better chemical resistance on the face(s) of your phone if you take these out as glass is impervious to most chemical attacks (including seawater and "chloride"... )

What did I just read? The amount of pressure under water increases by roughly 1 bar for every 10 m, so you are looking at roughly 2 bars of pressure on top of the device at that depth. Where did you get the 10 min to 10 meter relationship from? It makes no sense...

Just gonna leave it at that...
[Xperia Z General] waveloom:
Thank you, i wasnt looking for a lesson of chemestry or pressure.

Beside that i mean low ph not high, and bar pressure measurement was incorrect..

I took my XZ to Thermal waters, and it back home like new, also, the external seals didnt show any kind of damage.

So, my opinion it that the phone suits well to any water situation.
[Xperia Z General] egzthunder1:
My point with my "chemistry lesson" is that you should not talk about things like this unless you know what you are talking about. All your statements are false and erroneous, and unfortunately, people tend to take what they read to heart. Nothing against you and if you want to take your Z to a sauna, thermal waters, or even into Dante's fiery inferno itself, you are free to do so. Just don't come into the forum stating things which you don't seem to understand.

There already is enough misinformation among users surrounding this device to also need to butcher Chemistry and Physics as well. That is all...

Ps. You did not see external seals because there aren't any. The seals I am talking about are all internal and you would not be able to see them unless you cracked the device open. On top of that, you would not be able to see damage with the naked eye anyways unless of course the chemical attack was strong enough to cause a lot of damage to it...

Sent from mALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!!
[Xperia Z General] waveloom:
By to opposite side, i posted that just because of people running around the forum, and posting everywhere the same post like "noo...dont put your XZ in Water...it is delicate electronic equipment...it is just water resistant..not water proof..."

Probably i was incorrect about PH and Pressure, but i am correct when i talk about IPX certifications, and that this phone can be submerged without any worries.. i also doubt when i see around post of people showing water behind the screen of the phone..i dont know if that is photoshop or sort of propaganda against Sony.. there are many Samsung or Apple fan all around, and still they didnt get a waterproof phone.. so.. it is easy going to forum to spit over, other phones tech specifications...

Also because i got rain with the charging port open, and nothing passed through the screen.. just the charging port didnt work for 12 hours.

and the seals i am talking about,

are visible

..the are over the charging port and the sim card port.. and they are the same that are inside (those "invisible" you are talking about), beside shape or size, they are same material, and they may be affected by low ph or pressure, and if they are damaged or start to be.. can be noticed by eyes.
[Xperia Z General] LBTaylor1984:
I appreciate some of the comments on this thread but lets remember that it has been certified by the IP code

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_Code

When the phone is rated as IP57

5 = Dust protected	Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact

7 = Immersion up to 1 m	Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).	Test duration: 30 minutes

Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device

While it's clear that this isn't made for diving or other deep water activities, but the rating does tell you that it has been tested to that standard, but my go beyond that spec but not as far level 8
[Xperia Z General] waveloom:
Thanks good post. Also i heard Sony announced a new XZ for late 2013 with IP68 certification ! Ready for diving..
[Xperia Z General] egzthunder1:
That is because

it is

a delicate piece of electronic equipment... and no, it is not water proof... Look around and tell me at what point Sony stated that this was indeed a waterproof device. I dare you to find one piece of written evidence where Sony explicitly states that the Xperia Z is waterproof... warnings given around here are for people to stop doing stupid things with the devices (like the guy earlier in this thread who dunked his in beer or the other one where people decided to cook their Z's in Thai soup).

Probably?

I have yet to read anything you said regarding IPX... that is, other than this

Pressure is not just another matter. Pressure IS the matter at hand...

Neither did Sony customers...

Rain should be fine. Unless you seriously messed up the seals, it should not go through. Then again, I have used most devices I have owned in the rain without issues....

You do realize that the ports are only a small portion of the places by which water can get through, right?

Are they the same material? I have looked far and wide and I have been unable to find this information. Not saying you are wrong, but how can you be sure?

Once again, you talk about chemistry in here... the pH is not really the issue. The issue comes from chemical compatibility (aka chemical species in contact with the seal). Let me put an example for you: most of these seals are good in the presence of some organic solvents. However, there are some of these solvents that will destroy said seals... Why do I bring this up? Organic solvents have no measurable pH.

Please, just stop arguing already. You took your phone to thermal waters and it turned out fine, good for you. You want to do it again? Be my guest, just don't come in here suggesting to others that it is safe and essentially implying that they should all try it. This is the issue I have with your original post (aside from the vast amount of misinformation you have provided).
[Xperia Z General] conantroutman:
I would not recommend this at all, the network coverage is atrocious.