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[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
I'm now getting phantom touches.

Just confused. What was the change every night, anyway? Incremental/controlled? Or best efforts?

Unless my Nook is actually failing prematurely, I'm thinking this is all SW.

I'll roll back and confirm if it follows my tablet or the load.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] barmalei7:
The most stable CM10.1.3 Release Candidate is available for today.

http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?type=RC&device=ovation
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] artesea:
With the 10.1 RC2 now out, please can those talking about 10.2 please stick to the other thread?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Crazy Chuckster:
What is the best method to update our current 10.1 if we are running say the 08/12 release?

Just boot to recovery and install the RC zip? Should we wipe cache or dalvik?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] BJGunner:
I am new to Android etc and I was very surprised to see a new 10.1 rom available. But what is RC2 and what is the different between this rom and the previous ones?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] artesea:
Using TWRP, flashed the zip, wiped cache and dalvik, rebooted.

Kindle working.

No soft reboots (yet).
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
^ Thanks for letting us know that it fixes the Kindle issue.

I may give it a whirl tonite.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
RC2 means Release Candidate 2. It is just an advanced nightly that is supposed to be debugged so it is more stable. It is part of the CM process to get to a stable ROM.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
The transparency, which should functionally be the same thing. Still performing much better than pre setting changes. No apparent backsliding to old laggy ways. There still is lag, but a fraction of the past.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] SCWells72:
Is it the same thing? I did some searching on this a bit back and never found a conclusive answer. 32-bit color is generally 24-bit color (16.7 million colors) plus an 8-bit alpha/transparency channel. As a result, I'm not sure what it means to have 16-bit transparency, nor do others apparently, e.g.:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/...t-transparency-in-android-improve-performance

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1858153

The main reason I bring this up is that on the Nook Color, reducing the actual color depth of the screen did have a substantial effect on performance and smoothness of the device, but it required a kernel-level change if I remember correctly. Given that one of the main bottlenecks of the HD+ is a GPU that was really intended for 720P and not 1080P, I've inquired several times about whether that might be a good option on this device as well.

I don't know exactly how Android encodes display information, but with a naive calculation I can say that a 32-bit 1280x720 display requires ~29.5 million bits and a 32-bit 1920x1280 display requires ~78.6 million bits. If the HD+'s GPU is tuned for the former and the HD+ is trying to push the latter through it, it's no wonder that it struggles. If you lower the color depth to 16-bit (albeit with possible artifacting), you end up requiring only ~39.3 million bits which is much closer to what the GPU can handle efficiently.

Like I said, these are naive calculations that don't take into account the way the hardware actually processes image information, but it certainly seems like it's worth trying out a true 16-bit color depth on this device if that's actually different from the 16-bit transparency setting.

Anyone with more knowledge on this topic who might chime in?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
That would make more sense on depth. Still happy to say lag and performance is better with the settings noted. If a placebo, I'll take another :)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] FirePsych:
Did you make any of the recommended Dalvik heap changes?

I upgraded to this from 10.1 8/12 and I'm getting Kindle FC.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
Please help me, another clueless beginner, on where to go look or how to do a comparison between 10.2 1.3 RC and nightly 0902?

Thanks.

Not too much details like using diff tool on source codes, but change logs would be a good start
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] barmalei7:
Its a 10.1.3 Release Candidate not 10.2 :) and it's based on Android 4.2, not 4.3, so it's totally different.

The most stable CM10.1 firmware prior to this official RC2 was verygreen's firmware cm-10.1-20130801-UNOFFICIAL-ovation-emmc.zip
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] artesea:
The correct Dalvik settings come with the ROM, didn't need to do anything.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] artesea:
Now 24 hours in and no soft reboot. Looking very promising.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] LucaToo:
Have the Pie Controls been updated in CM10.1.3 at all..?

I am cuurently using CarbonRom (which hasn't been updated for a while) mainly for the more advanced Pie Controls on expanded desktop but would happily swap back to CM if they have been.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] artesea:
Having not used Pie or Carbon before I couldn't be certain, however looking at what I've got on my 10.1.3 and the screenshots in the Carbon thread, I would suggest no.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] manojm:
Installing RC2 for 10.1

I was on 08/12 and updated to RC2. I wiped all caches and did factory reset to make sure HD+ was clean and then flashed RC2. Works fine so far.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
I also updated to RC2 and everything seems ok so far. Nothing out of the ordinary but my Nook HD was running fine on all the cm rom with the exception of the kindle app issue which has been resolved in this newest rom.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] starbright_:
That is really strange to me .. for some the latest 0904 works for others not.

As for me, I get it working with 512MB heap (on the older version, but the reverted smaller value of 402MB that comes with latest version doesn't work.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
RC2 comes with it set to 384M for HD and that works too.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] FirePsych:
I've done clean installs and upgraded both with regular downloads and using CM updater. I wipe after each install or update. Kindle works on CM 10.1 8/12 but still FCs on RC2.

I've uninstalled it and I'm going to install from the Play Store again and see if that helps.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
Yeah, typo.

Still, what are the differences between 4.2.2 and 4.3?

Where does one go to educate one self?

Change logs mean nothing, RC2 change log for example: this is the first CM release for this device type.

I picked up 10.1 RC2 last night since 0902 got too unbearably unreliable.

Looks stable so far.

Running out of time, probably the last load I pick up before flipping my Nook.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jack45:
One searches via Google.

http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/features/google-android/android-43-jelly-bean-release-date-features/

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/07/24/a-look-at-whats-new-in-android-4-3/

http://www.android.com/about/jelly-bean/
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
Thank you.

Now that I know what I'm getting, I think I'll stick with 4.2.2 (RC2).

My Note II and Nexus 4 have 4.3 from OTA/ROM. L9 still has 4.2.2.

2 new Nexus 7 arriving, will shipped with 4.3, I think.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
4.3 seems a waste of time, since the improvements appear to be for telephony, new sensor features for newer hardware, new fluff and the new gpu acceleration that the 4470 does not support.

Seems no point really in upgrading beyond 10.1, since the HD will not leverage the new features.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] DeathEvil:
Trim alone is worth upgrading to 10.2 for me. You are entitled to your opinion, so do whatever floats your boat
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
Don't forget we can still use lagfix (trim) app on 10.1
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
True dat. Trim seems good in premise, but yet to see concencous it mitigates lag any better on the HD+ nor any more stable. 10.1 though has been very stable, so hard to improve in that regard besides par.

Besides that, the listed differences almost all benefit phones and newer chipsets.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dmanlee:
Is lagfix safe for CM10.1 now? Would love to address the lag issues. Read about some bricking issues w/ fstrim on CM10.2 tho
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Classpro:
I'm still using the 8/1 unofficial 10.1, which runs really well, and unclear whether the official update is an improvement in any respect.

My daughter and I have one problem though (2 different machines). Sometimes when the tab wakes up from sleep it gets into an unlook loop where it can't be unlocked - it starts to unlock and goes back to the unlock screen. It has to be rebooted to get past the lock screen. Any ideas what might be causing this? I realize it could be one of the apps I installed, but I'm not sure how to find out which.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jpisini:
That is usually caused by magnetic cover close it and reopen.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
10.1 0809 for me :) The 402M heap size and 16k transparency toggle have made the device less laggy and no stability issues at all. Use the heck out of it and as example, 117 hours up time with no reboots. Good battery life and very low battery bleed in sleep mode.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
I used to run it every night w/o any bad effects with 10.1

But of course, YMMV.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] panchokoster:
Hi, am I the only one having a lot of screen flickers? Dmesg shows this, each time the screen flickers

3>[ 3522.518798] omapdss DISPC error: GFX_FIFO_UNDERFLOW, disabling GFX

<3>[ 3522.569702] omapdss DISPC error: SYNC_LOST, disabling LCD

<7>[ 3522.583923] novatek-panel display0: disable

<6>[ 3522.584197] ignoring apply mgr(lcd) while blanking

<7>[ 3522.652282] novatek-panel display0: enable

<7>[ 3522.652618] novatek-panel display0: power_on

<7>[ 3522.850982] novatek-panel display0: power_on done
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] starbright_:
Not quite sure this is the right thread, but at least I get CWM from here.

There is a problem with automatic updates. As far as I undertsood this the reason is, that internal SD card is mounted in old way.

to /emmc/0/

Most use /storage/emulated/0.

If CWM (and TWRP ?) is updated to this as default path, such tools like cyandelta or Cyanogenmods original update tool would run automatic.

But CWRM looks in different folder after the update.zip.

How has created CWM for NOOK HD+? Can this be changed? Or am I completly wrong?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
I have tried a few of the 10.1 cm roms from 8/9, 8/12 and now RC2 and wonder if its the rom or latest Amazon store update.

In the past, my tablet would auto onto the apps store. Now I have to constantly put in my user ID/password. Its ok for me but my kids tablets, it a hassle since some apps checks for verification.

Anyone else experience this?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] snoozer854:
Yes I had that problem, so I updated to the 9/8 Nightly & this took care of the app store problem, but created much worse troubles with Google stuff .

Check out my other post on this forum from yesterday.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
I found that BSPlayer won't play video on RC2 for some reason. Went back to 0809. I haven't seen this issue on a 10.1 / 4.2.2 build before.

Fix one bug make 10 new ones. :D. I love software development.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
No apparent issues with 10.1 0809 with 402m heap and 16k transparency on. Not being a jerk, but reporting results. Just some lag that appears par for the hardware course. Given 10.2 is mainly telephony and new hardware support, still not seeing the value add in the update. Not seeing how software will fix the combo of 1080p, lower ram and a gpu designed for 720p data driving for displays.

With the great dev efforts, the HD+ is already an overachiever, considering it's intent for market.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spartan4585:
I don't have the latest Bs player version but it doesn't have any problems playing avi, wmv or mp4 files and I am on rc2.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] The Old One:
Is there any way to use "zoom to fill screen" in cyanogenmod 10.1 other than the tablet ui patch?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
I have BSPlayer 1.9.151. The last one that still supports AC3. It would queue up but not actually play. They are .mkv (H.264 + AC3) and I am accessing them with LAN mode. Strangely it would make thumbnails fine.

Maybe when the next CM 10.1.3 RC or final comes along I will do a full wipe and try again. I just did an upgrade without wipe with RC2. Although I did uninstall and reinstall BSPlayer.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] wqt0926:
Where to set heap size???kinda amateur here:)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pinguy1982:
Have you tried compiling the Kernel so it runs at 720p instead of 1080p? This should drastically increase performance as it is pushing around half as many pixels.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] swaaye:
HD+ is actually running 1920x1280. 3:2 aspect. So you wouldn't want 1280x720 on it since it would skew the image. But running a fraction of the resolution would certainly reduce memory bandwidth and computational demands.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] verygreen:
That's not really feasible without some nasty hacks.

You see, the screen is still big and needs this much pixels. If you occupy a smaller area of a framebffer, then you'd need to do some sort of a scaling to fill entire screen, now if you do this scaling in kernel, that would then likely conflict with scaling from android once it boots this far.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rushless:
If rooted you can edit this in the build.prop, but best to be careful and read up on it first. Verygreen would be a better reference.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pinguy1982:
Here's a guide on how to do it: http://www.armtvtech.com/armtvtechforum/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=761
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] verygreen:
That's for HDMI, not for internal display. On the TV the TV will scale for you, but our LCD panel won't.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] centralpark:
Which is most stable?

A few weeks ago, my nook suddenly reset itself and got stuck on the CyanogenMod logo when trying to reboot. I had been running 7/12 for quite some time with absolutely no issues. It seemed as if my device was nearly bricked. Thankfully, I was able to do a factory restore. Does anyone know what possibly could have caused this?

After that experience, I'm a little nervous about reflashing another ROM.

If a person doesn't care about the latest, greatest, cutting edge; uses their nook mostly for reading and surfing the net, occasional candy crush escapades; which ROM would be the most stable for daily use?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
8/12 or RC2.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] centralpark:
most stable rom

Is there much of a difference between 8/12 and RC2? The only thing I want is stability w/o having to tweak many settings.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
I noticed no difference. Both were very stable for me.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] snoozer854:
Has the Amazon App store not staying signed in been fixed in CM 10.1 rc2 yet?

I went back to the cm 10.1, 8/12 nightly since some of my apps from Amazon wouldn't work unless I signed into amazon every time
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dmullens:
I tried 10.1 RC 2 but the kindle app doesn't seem to work. I'm on the 8/1 version. Does the kindle app work on any of the newer nightlies?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jadefalkon:
Yes, I did a fresh install of the 09-11 nightly and it works fine. I was previously on the 09-08 nightly.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
I think he is talking about CM10.1. It will work on 8/12 (not 8/13). Those are the last CM10.1 nightlies until RC2.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] dmullens:
Guess that's why I couldn't find any. Thanks for the info.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] toplist:
I replaced the internal recovery with CWM. Is there way to go back to nook recovery for my internal storage? I had an original nook rom backup right after taking it out of the box. I used that to restore. Then, I tried erase and deregistering from nook rom and factory reset from cwm menu. None of them completely wipes the internal storage and takes it back to out of the box stage.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
Go to my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature and look at item 5.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
I have noticed a really strange bug in latest 10.1 nightly. When playing candy crush, everything moves smoothly but over slow. Its like watching all animations in slow motion. However if enable expanded desktop then everything plays in real time speed. I don't know if its the tablet ui patch I did. Can anyone check on their devices?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] wqt0926:
Dont play that game but since i enable expanded desktop, the SYSTEM UI seems to be a little bit more smoother, not significantly but visible.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
See my previous post describing how tabletUI almost made me toss the Nook to trash. It's garbage. Uninstall it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
I just can't go back to the phablet UI, Google introduced recently. It just doesn't make sense on a 9 inch tablet. I have been using Android tablets since HC first came out and really like the tablet UI. I am hoping someone can look into this issue and maybe fix it for the later versions of the ROM. Meanwhile, I will have to put up with slight inconvineince of enabling expanded desktop while playing candy crush/other games which are lagging.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Classpro:
Is anyone still working on rc2 to fix amazon market login problem? Are people moving to the newer release?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] gidal:
I don't think there's been any work done to the mod since last time I ran into it.

Even without garbage slowing the Nook down, it was slow/sluggish enough. PurePerformanceX helps a little.

Got rid of my Nook and bought a pair of Nexus 7 2013, running Android 4.3. Don't see that Google phablet UI you mentioned.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
The phablet UI is identical to the Phone UI with centred home, menu, back buttons and status bar on the top, instead of the two being combined as in HC/ICS.

I noticed this as well. Scrolling through the home screens is visibly smoother in expanded desktop mode compared to with taskbar visible. I don't really understand how the Tablet UI patch affects such things...

---------- Post added at 06:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:21 PM ----------

Can anyone quickly confirm what the latest version of the 10.1 ROM is?

Currently I using

cm-10.1-20130813-NIGHTLY-ovation

from here

http://goo.im/devs/cm/ovation/nightly

which I was under the impression that it was the latest Nightly ROM.

Is the

cm-10.1.3-RC2-ovation

meant to be even newer?

Thanks
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
Yes

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] veekay:
Is there a way to resize the navigation bar on the bottom in this rom?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Classpro:
When you say yes, you mean rc2 is the latest release, right?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
You asked if RC2 was meant to be newer that the nightly you listed. And I said yes.

RC2 means Release Candidate 2, which in this case is newer than that last published nightly. But sometimes they continue to publish nightlies after an RC. But that is not the case so far with CM10.1.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
Hi,

Does that mean the development on the 10.1 ROM is completely stopped?

The kindle app keeps crashing. This seems to be a known issue. Are there any fixes lined up for the future?

Thanks.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
No, it does not mean development has stopped. It just means that nightlies for CM10.1 have stopped. Developers still make improvements to CM10.1 code, but they are not published routinely. There may be an RC3 published and eventually a Stable version. If you know how to build, you can build your own now from CM source and you will get the code updates since RC2.

Developers now focus on CM10.2 and nightlies are built regularly for it.

But verygreen fixed the Kindle crash issue for our devices. I have no crashes on RC2. You should not be having problems. I am running Kindle 3.8.2.4. I have Play Store set not to automatically update Kindle.

Look at this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=45674968

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 RC2 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] centralpark:
Stuck on Cm logo

A few weeks ago, my Nook suddenly rebooted and was stuck on the cm spinning logo. Nothing I did seemed to allow me to get passed the spinning logo. Prior to this, my Nook had been running great for many weeks.

Does anyone know some possible causes for this dilemma?

Right before it happened, I may have had my nook on airplane mode and I do use a nook cover.

Thanks so much!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
Boot to CWM and go to advanced and clear dalvik-cache. Then try rebooting.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
Hello,

Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions. I currently have 10.1.3 RC2 installed but the kindle app still crashes. The post you linked suggests it might be something to do with an update for the app? Unfortunately since I only recently flashed my Nook HD+, it means I am unable to go to the older version of the app. In the other thread there was some mentions about adjusting the heap size? Is this easy to do and does it affect the overall performance/stability of the OS?

Thanks.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] pinguy1982:
I found a far more elegant way of doing it. It's not free but it works well. This app can change screen resolutions to anything you like.

Resolution Changer Pro

For 720p the settings are:

Width: 768
Hight: 1152
Density (DPI): 140
Then run "Fix navigation bars"

Gives best performance but looks awful. You can see the pixels in the text. It's great for gaming, but not for reading text.

900p

Width: 960
Hight: 1440
Density (DPI): 180
Then run "Fix navigation bars"

This is the best all rounder. It runs games just fine. Moving between races in the menu for Real Racing 3 is silky smooth. Text on web pages etc. look OK, and is very readable, just a bit fuzzy looking.

#EDIT

Review.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] leapinlar:
It is very easy. Just edit /system/build.prop. Change the heapsize value. If you keep the range of values within what that poster says, should not effect stability.

Sent from my Nook HD+ running CM10.1 on emmc.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digger1985:
Thanks, I will try that. Just before I saw your post I managed to find the apk for the last version of Kindle app which seems to work just fine. However, I am afraid that it maight contain malware? Has anyone use this site before?

http://www.androiddrawer.com/11347/download-kindle-4-1-1-1-app-apk/#.UjjDsz-Jpek

Thanks.

Edit: I tried 410, 420, 430, 440 and 450. All of them crashed. Finally I tried the max recommended 454 and it seems to work.

Edit 2: It seems 453 is the lowest I can put in before the app crashes.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Danrarbc:
Wouldn't setting it to exactly half have the fewest interpolation issues?