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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tu3218:
Thanks a lot! Got it running. But are you sure it works with Google Music and Pandora? I'm playing music in my car and switching between a lot of settings in the FX app and nothing is changing. Not sure if I'm missing something or what.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xHoLyx:
It wasn't working with Pandora for me as well, but one day after cache/dalvik or might have been dirty flash since it removes files.

Play around with it for a bit.

It should work with every audio output.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tu3218:
okay good deal. Just curious, why do you have master power off? Doesn't that need to be on for it work?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Wyvern49:
Yes you have to turn on master power or nothing will work. If you are in compatible mode with both apps you want to select another option in your sound settings, I use the standard FX. Also don't be concerned it the driver status screen shows the app isn't working, it's a problem with the status screen. You should be able to hear a major difference by switching the master power off and then back on. You will hear a difference when you switch the other settings but some will be fairly subtle.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tu3218:
Yeah I got it working, but I only hear a difference with my bluetooth headphones. A big difference actually. In my car, I'm not getting the differences. I'm thinking because my Pioneer head unit. It has its built in own EQ curve settings that I can change but I don't think I can turn it off. Not sure if that's whats causing the issue or not. But I did notice it does make it a little too "bassy". I'm sure that can be adjusted though. I just wish I could get it to work in my car because that's where I really want it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] xHoLyx:
If you are still having trouble with Pandora, here's the solution

using root explorer or similar app, edit build.prop > lpa.decode=true to lpa.decode=false > reboot.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Reserved for updates, longer term reviews, etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
Thanks Mike! I'm probably going to pick one of these up but I'm not going to be doing that much customization. The main 3 things I do with my docked phone in the car are play music, use navigation when needed, and/or video tape idiots on the road.

There's nothing like a good dash cam video of someone driving like a moron.

Nice mention of #firstworldproblems. I always like to check that out for a laugh or to remind myself how good life really is.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Haha, glad you liked it.... I'd love to be able to use my phone as a dash cam, but I hate having it so far away and / or above my head - when mounted low on the windshield, it's too far away from me like my radar detector is, and when it's above my head, I hate having to take my hand that far off the wheel to check something! No texting and driving, just changing tracks or what not....

But yeah, I'll get a vehicle one day that has a perfect location for me to mount devices that is close to the wheel or radio and has a perfect view of the windshield to tape some of the craziness I see down here in FL on a daily basis! My track car has a fixed camera mount between the two seats and that catches all the action, unfortunately it's just what you'd see inside a race track and nothing "fun" like idiot drivers on the roads.... :p
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mmark27:
Ha! I feel the same you do about docks. Great to see someone else with a similar passion. I'm getting the S4 later this week and I'll be ordering this dock shortly after. I was looking for a reasonable option to use with a case too. I never used a case because it always interfered with my Infuse Dock on my E4GT and then my SGS3. Guess I might be able to get a case now to get a kickstand back like my OG Evo.

I'm probably going to have to tweak my desk dock with a little Dremmel action like you did for your infuse dock. Those squared corners are causing a real problem. I have the Mugen dock that sits the phone in portrait mode on my desk. Doesn't launch dock though (never has, it's cheap). These air gestures seem like what my set up has been waiting for.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Dock + Air Gestures = Heaven on a device! Love using it in the car, it's a very fresh take on technology, for sure....

Still testing it out with the Velcro on the AMPS mount instead of tearing off the ball bearing, loving everything about this dock so far though! Just a little wiggle room due to the Velcro adjusting itself when mounting the device to the dock, and then again when plugging the cable in one handed - ONE HANDED! On a "universal" dock! That in itself is reason enough to order one of these.... haha
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] corygibbons:
Were you able to get the aux audio to work? Mine doesn't seem to output to my car speakers with the dock accessory settings checked.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Strange.... mine works just fine, have you contacted iBolt about it? Maybe something is wrong with the connection inside the sliding door on the backside of the mount, slide it to unlock the cover and check to make sure they're both connected well, and then make sure your aux connection to your car's plug is firmly connected, that's about the only things I can think to check.

On another topic - one thing I wanted to mention again was the screen on while docked function.... I'm currently using Tasker to set the screen on for 24 hours when connected to the dock and turn it back to 1 minute when undocked, but for some reason, Tasker isn't the best at following ALL the rules when closing out a task! Does anyone have any suggestions for keeping the screen on while docked? I know how to keep the screen on while charging just fine, that's easy to do through the phone's settings menu, but I don't want to have the screen on while it's sitting on my desktop charger in my bedroom or once I get wireless charging for my desk, that's absurd, I just need to keep the screen on while docked ONLY. It worked perfectly in car mode on the SIII, but since this isn't car mode, again, I'm trying to get that working without having 20 apps pointing to each other saying "turn on this mode only to turn on this setting and go to the next thing." Seems a little redundant and maddening all at the same time!

Posting that in other forums to see if anyone knows the answer, will edit this if I can find some help elsewhere too :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] M3wThr33:
The Car Home I use on my Evo 3D supports it.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...GwsMSwyLDEsIm5ldC5jd2ZrLmlnODguY2FyaG9tZTMiXQ..

There's a bunch of features like that. Plug in = power on wifi, gps, keep screen on, etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ramk13:
You may have already done this based on what you said, but it took me a minute or two to figure out, so I figured I'd mention it. You have to make sure that you have "Audio output mode - Use external speakers when device is docked" is checked under Accessory settings. If that isn't working also try the dock with some other speaker setup just to check.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ramk13:
I use the "Stay Awake" option under Developer Options within settings. This keeps it awake while charging at other times too, but I prefer that. If I want the screen off, then I hit the power button. The screen does dim after a while, but it doesn't go off.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Right, I mentioned above that I didn't want that because of how my phone is propped up on a desktop charger in my bedroom - the screen comes on one time during the night for any reason and it's on the whooooooooole night!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] corygibbons:
It was the connection on the back. Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
I just got my iBolt dock today. I took it for a spin and it looks great. The USB cable is VERY stiff and I needed 2 hands to get it in. I came back and saw that you pulled the wire out of the clip in the back. I'm going to try that next time I use it. I'm hopeful that over time it will loosen up a bit and I'll get used to one-handed use but it's still nothing like the old Samsung docks.

Other than that, the car goes into Dock mode and routes audio perfectly. I don't like the samsung desk clock app or whatever comes up for dock mode so I'm going to work on getting a proper car launcher app. The official iBolt app and Car Home Ultra are both contenders.

To help with launching directly into a car app, I'm going to tape an NFC tag onto the car dock and program it to initiate various tasks in an app I have called NFC Task Launcher. It can do just about anything and everything.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Glad you got it and you like it too! I have NFC Task Launcher too, unfortunately, my pack of TecTiles are useless even with that because the S4 doesn't read that format any longer.... so I'll have to wait until I can get my hands on something a little more, hmmm, stable and long lasting than Samsung's own TecTiles! haha
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
Samsung really bungled that with TecTiles and forward-compatibility. I'm happy I didn't opt for them when I first started using NFC. I got a pack of the NFC Hobbyist starter kit from tagstand.com. They work just fine with my S4 but my only complaint is that once in a while I have to try twice for it to recognize the tag.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
Tough USB Plug

I'm getting a little more used to the USB connector after a few days. I unhooked it in the back so it has a better range of motion. Also, after my car sat in the sun for a few hours, the heat really loosened it up.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] hamzer11:
You seem very knowledgeable about these docks. I was wondering whether you know if the in-vehicle charging dock for the S3 will work with the S4. I like the look of that dock more.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Which dock are we talking about for the SIII, the Infuse one we've been using in the past? So do I, but that's the whole point of this thread, the Infuse dock will not work, causing me to start my search for a new dock!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] hamzer11:
The one for the S III. This one:

http://www.ibolt.co/ibpf-33307
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
Got mine today & must say this dock is truly amazing! Simple install & for whatever reason the audio blows away the S3 using the infuse dock. Haven't tested the S3 in this dock yet so not sure if it's the phone or the dual cable of the dock yet. Holds the phone perfectly and with a S-View case (folded behind) even shoots video unobstructed (by the case or as some mounts get in the way of the lens).

My ONLY complaint... And it's a fairly BIG one... Is that the included cable only permits charging up to 820 while the same adapter it's plugged into with a standard micro USB was charging @ 1900. Perhaps it's the length of the cable or that it's split into USB & audio, but none the less, charging will take over twice as long.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] luckychef28:
Funny thing about that dock. I bought it for my S3 about 8 months ago (LOVED IT) and went on their site to see if it would work for the S4. The site says it will, but when I plugged in my S4....nothing. No dock mode triggered and no charging. Checked the site again...says it will work. Wrote to them and they said that they had to change how dock mode was triggered for the S4, so only S3 In-Vehicle charging mounts shipped after May 1st will work with the S4.

I was seeing the wrong information because I was looking in iboltshop.com. ibolt.co clearly states this change and that the old docks will not work. Problem is, the item number is exactly the same.

So, no, it will not work if you bought the S3 dock in the last week or so.

FROM iBolt.co: " Dock's shipping now (from May 1, 2013) features updated electronics for compatibility with Galaxy S4 as well. Please note that previously purchased units are NOT compatible with the S4 due to a Samsung change in pin-out configuration and car-dock support."

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Can anyone confirm if this works with Spigen cases Neo Hybrid or Slim Armor? The case reviews mention the USB cutout being too small for anything but Samsung slim adapters. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Glad you got your answer above, [MENTION=3275044]hamzer11[/MENTION], I didn't know about the previous SIII docks....

Are we talking amps here, is that what you're looking at? First, how are you measuring this, since nothing I've thrown at my Samsung phones have ever been able to read amp input on the device, and second, what charger are you using? It appears that you're using a 1A charger to power the dock, but I have a 2A in my car, let me know what that app is and I'll measure it too, thanks! I love "gauges," the more, the better!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
Yes. The app is called "Galaxy Charging Current"... And will show amp input. I get 1900 from the standard wall charger/cable.

I'm using a 4A charger actually in the car, and as I've said, when I plug a cheap $5 micro usb cable into the charger it also shows 1900. But the cable from the ibolt only charges @ 820. It's definitely not the charger but the cable. Perhaps ibolt limits this for the GS3 & other compatible phones, but then they should have made an option for the GS4 as charging @ less than 1/2 speed is not really acceptable.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
Screenshot....
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
And using same charger but standard micro usb (instead of ibolt)...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Wow..... I'm seeing similar results too.... hmmm, I wonder why the cable is causing the issue? I tried it on a bunch of other 2A chargers around my house, and got some strange results - for example, my Seidio Innodock Jr charger on a 2A wall socket only read 600mA but the Jawbone bluetooth flex cable that's like 3" long made the phone read 1900mA on the same wall socket! The factory Samsung 2A charger with cable reads 1900mA, so that's the baseline test, and now I have to figure out why the Innodock Jr and iBolt are both reading so low, there must be a ton of resistance in these damn things!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] M3wThr33:
Got my dock today. Haven't tried the charging amount yet, but I'm not too worried.

HOWEVER I have fixed the car dock app loading issue.

At first I tried to use the iBolt apk with the auto-run to launch my Car Home app, but it didn't go BACK to Car Home, rather iBolt.

So I did the next best thing. Decompiled the Car Home apk, edited the AndroidManifest.xml, added the DOCK_MODE permission and now it works perfectly.

It's pretty simple to do, and since car mode apps already handle CAR_MODE, they already work in DOCK_MODE.

I kinda feel this is worthy of its own thread, but this has become the de-facto car-dock discussion thread...

Edit:

Messed around with the charging.

Using that app to measure the charging isn't 100% accurate.

I.E. Running Pandora took 200mA off of the charging value

Also, it changes based on what's running and the baseline isn't zero, rather 460...

The key seems to be the length of the cable.

Using short cables + dongle is better than long cables + dongle. The audio adapter got about 840. The Samsung stock cable got about 1500. I was able to find a medium length USB cable that gave me 1500. It's not 1900, but I can sacrifice 0.4A of charging speed to auto-launch/exit the dock program. I don't mind having to plug in the audio cable. Always did that before.

So, after messing with a combination of cables and re-compiling the apk, I'm now able to charge fast and automatically launch the car home I use.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] oohaylima:
That is really stupid.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
The 1st time I plugged mine in it asked what app to open & I selected CarHome Ultra & always. Not sure why you needed to go through all that work?

I also thought it had something to do with the cable length, but realized the stock white cable from Samsung is 6 feet long & that produces a 1900 mA rate.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] M3wThr33:
Because the current car dock system, whether it's 4.2 or Samsung only uses DOCK_MODE. My car home that I use was ONLY setup for CAR_MODE. I guess a lot of apps are logically programmed for both.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ramk13:
Has anyone had trouble with the iBolt microUSB cable not fitting into their case opening? I just got a Spigen Neo Hybrid and the connector is too thick to fit into the case. I may check with iBolt to see if they have any solutions. If not I'm planning to use a Dremel and shave down the end of the connector, since it looks like it's just a millimeter or two of plastic standing in the way of it fitting.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] dannyben:
That's a known defect in design of the neo hybrid case (it's posted all over this forum) , not the ibolt. Many cables will not work with that case. Get that Dremel & shave the opening of the case instead :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ramk13:
The plastic portions of the Neo Hybrid in that spot are really thin (less than 1 mm), so I didn't want to modify those. I emailed iBolt asking about shaving the connector down and got a prompt response (great customer service)! They said someone else had contacted them about the problem and that they recommended shaving down the connector to that person. I was worried about my warranty and the customer support rep said that they'd replace my cable if I screwed it up in the process. They also said they are working on a solution to the problem, but I went ahead and shaved mine down. It worked out great (see pictures). Turns out that the connector plastic is pretty soft, so all I needed was an exacto knife. I shaved about 1 mm depth on each side and 2-3 mm towards the wire side of the connector. Now it fits without a problem. I'm pretty happy with the outcome.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rdrean:
Exactly what I needed to know and will now do! thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Looks good! And X-Acto knives are the ONLY knives to use for hobby situations! Glad iBolt was willing to replace it if you screwed up, too, that's important info - let's all not go around breaking them in half just to get a new one, but if you don't have this much patience, and a lot of people don't, I understand, it's good to hear that they've got your back
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] luckychef28:
I just got the Neo Hybrid and xPro dock. The Neo's case opening is 12mmx6mm; the iBolt plug is 11mmx~7.2mm. I used a set of hobby files to grind down the plug for a perfect fit. I can say that the large Mediabridge charge cable fits in the USB housing in the back of the charger.

Here's my problem: No matter what car app I have installed (iBolt's or Car Home Ultra) frickin S Voice loads first on top of the car app. It's not a huge deal, but a pain to back out every time. Now, I do not want to uninstall or freeze S Voice, as the driving mode is actually great for texting. EDIT: Fixed. had to clear data from S Voice. It makes no sense because there's no setting in S Voice to have it launch in dock mode, nor was there a default to clear in application manager.

And as a side note: I ordered my dock via Amazon direct from iBolt. It came in a plastic bag, not a nice printed box.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
That's strange. Was the shipping label stuck directly to the bag? Mine came in a box but I did notice the box was a little out-dated. For example, it says 6-foot cable when the descriptions all say 9-foot. I didn't actually measure it because it's plenty long enough to suit my needs.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] luckychef28:
It shipped in the standard white box, but the dock was in a bag - like a shelf hanging bag with the cardboard flap on top stapled for hanging. I just found that really cheap and unattractive. Not what you'd expect from a $40 purchase.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Yeah, I couldn't have helped you with the S Voice thing, it was one of the first things I froze once rooted, 5 mins after receiving my phone! It just wasn't worth the hassle, but I do love a lot of the other Samsung features at least

That IS strange, as snake said.... I would definitely look into this if I were you to make sure you weren't given some refurb or open box item, sure, someone could have just bought it and thrown out the box thinking they weren't going to need it, then ended up returning it, but it could definitely have gone further than that and the dock or cable could give you trouble down the road (quite literally)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] MikaelPe:
Sorry about the Polybag. We here at iBOLT simply ran out of retail boxes for a few days! We had two choices this past week; delay shipping order or use the polybag and we choose the latter so everyone would get their orders. I agree that a real retail box is much nicer.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ronin4740:
Anyone using this and the iBolt Car app? Any idea how I can add more shortcuts so I can add things like Pandora, Handcent SMS, Google Music, etc.. to the iBolt Car app screen?

I am otherwise pretty tickled with this dock. It should let the S4 with the Trident Kraken Case fit without issue (the case hasn't arrived yet).
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
On the BALL, thanks for the quick reply!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] luckychef28:
Thank you for the reply and apology. I appreciate you guys choosing on time shipping over packaging.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] scott14719:
I haven't purchased one of these yet (though I most likely soon will), but I must say that just from reading this thread the customer service with this product seems to be top notch. Some companies are good at customer service, some definitely are not, but I think they can all learn a little from this company. Thanks for the great level of Customer service iBOLT.

**EDIT**

Well, I just ordered one so through Amazon so we will see how it goes...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ronin4740:
Answered my own question. Using TouchWiz if I chose activities I can then pick from a list of applications.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] M3wThr33:
Another fun tip:

Disable PageBuddyNotiSvc to prevent the "headphones connected" and "dock connected" notifications, along with the giant bar of "Recommended Shortcuts"
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KryptosXLayer2:
Good tip! I kind of like the Recommended Shortcuts after using it for a little while and getting the apps on there I want to use while driving, but I can definitely see how most people won't ever use it.... Good find and I'll be sure to include that in my long-term review!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] gg_monogram:
sorry wrong post
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] snakecharmer23:
Charging Current limited by iBolt cable

I'm using an app called Galaxy Charging Current Lite to determine how much juice my phone is getting while connected to the dock. It says I'm getting 660 mA when I have my phone connected via the dock. If I plug the phone directly into the charger using the micro-USB cable that came with it, I get 1900 mA.

I don't know if it's the length or the way the pins are on the cable but something is causing the phone to get less juice.

FYI - My charger is a 2 port Griffin Charger. (P2275)

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0042B9U8Q
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] scott14719:
Did you even read this thread before posting in it?