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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rox628:
No lag worth mentioning for me neither? I'm happy with it...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
All fanboy crap aside... The HTC One is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother than the S4.. It's night and day different!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] damon20r:
Come to think of it I can't remember restarting my phone since I got it. SMH. I'll try that and see what happens, LOL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stevehkim:
1 hr screen is something wrong def. Im easily getting 5 hours on this biotch. Im at 15 hours unplugged 2 hours 41 mins screen with 69% battery left.

ATT S4 Rooted. Beastin. LMT launched.

4.2.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sal1311:
It's funny I've been using my HTC one for the past few hours and it's smooth as silk without a single issue. Great display and the audio quality is incredible. For some reason however I want to keep my gs4. I can't figure out which to keep. What are you guys who have both devices going to keep?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
Can someone translate this to English please?

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If I had not already got rid of my One, I'd honestly keep it at this point..

The S4 is nice but....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
My s4 is just as smooth as the htc one I used for a few days. For me the one isnt smoother as you describe. Maybe something was wrong with your s4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
If you are saying that then I doubt that you have actually had both because it's night and day difference in smoothness...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sal1311:
When using the two devices side by side that's when the differences are very noticeable. It really is a night and day difference unless there is something wrong with my phone and the thousands of others that are complaining about the same thing. Maybe you got a "special" gs4 :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Removing the bloat did nothing to change the lag. I've seen a few people mention the same thing. As for people saying they don't see the lag, go use the One and try the S4 again. You're Just in denial. Same thing with some people and Apple. They can do no wrong. Galaxy S phones and iPhones could show just a blank screen and people would still consider it the best mobile device ever made. Face it, Samsung dropped the ball with the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
I've decided to just wait it out and see if the lag is ever addressed. With the lack of updates in the past from Samsung and AT&T I doubt that it will be addressed any time soon..

When the Nexus 5 is announced I will go from there with my decision.. Can always sell the S4 to buy the Nexus so it's all good!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Every benchmark I've seen done in reviews the One beats the S4. I have yet to see an S4 beat the One in a Quadrant.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
4.2.2 has a lot to do with this... I don't think I'd declare that Samsung dropped the ball just yet..

There is lag yes and I have frozen over 70 apps and the lag is STILL present. Not as bad as before I froze all that crap but it's still there..

Nexus 4 users complain about lag as well and they are rockin pure Android. So assume that 4.2.2 has some blame here..

The One is running 4.2.1 which may also be a reason it's running smoother..

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Benchmarks are a waste of time!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Now that's the truth.

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It was their choice to put 4.2.2 on there.

You go from bashing it in one breath to defending it in the next.

Bottom line:

The S4 was the worst experience I've had on an Android phone ever and I've had many phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
I had both the HTC One and the S4. I kept the S4....sure there is a little lag every once in a while. But nothing like everyone else says. I kept the S4 for the physical home button and the wake button on the side of the phone...not the top. I also love the SD card. I have a 64GB SD card in with music pictures and movies. I know the S4 can be rooted but the boot loader is still locked ( unlock is possible but not released yet). But the phone will become a BEAST when roms are released to take real advantage of the phones hardware. There will be more developer supporting the S4 because of the hardware specs and the possibilites they will provide. But I do miss the front speakers on the One...they were awesome!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Um have you seen the developers that bought a One or that are working on it? Hell, even Steve Kondik advised people not to get the AT&T S4. More developers on the S4? Smh.

Also, while you're at it, go check out the roms and mods for the One that are out already. Then tell me how many the S4 has. I mean you must be on this site because you like to flash roms and mod your android phone right? Why keep a phone you can't mod?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
No. Samsung let AT&T drop the ball. You don't see any other S4 variants lagging.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
We will see....you guys will see when the roms start coming and the better hardware will shine through......time will tell......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
The international seems to lag a bit. It was in a review video on phonedog.com. And for that guy to mention lag in his review it must have been staring him in the face because he rarely notices much of anything on a phone he's reviewing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
exactly......so when the roms eliminate the AT&T bloatware.....This phone will be a BEAST!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
I said I a different thread when I had the S4 that I'll be back to it IF the bootloader ever gets unlocked.

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What about the many who have removed the bloat and still have a crappy device?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geokhentix:
I work at AT&T, so I have both handsets. After loading them both up, I find no difference in mine. I prefer the HTC One though because in my opinion, it feels way sexier physically. I also hate touchwiz. I will too agree, I expected more from the S4, but I'm not having any lag problems as of yet. I'll give it time though.

[MENTION=2418400]SkizzMcNizz[/MENTION]: It's already been unlocked. However it won't be released until sometime after May 30th, because the VZW version most likely has the same vulnerability, and if it's released now, it'll give them nearly a month to apply a fix or two.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
So SkizzMcNizz...if you don't have the S4 and love your HTC One.....why are you trolling the S4 forums?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
I was about to ask the same thing... I haven't even looked at the HTC One forums once.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
Not the same as a custom rom......if you are familiar with custom roms at all then you know this to be true. But I think you are just trolling since you already said you have the One and prefer it. Why are you posting in the S4 forum except to troll?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geokhentix:
When did the community of XDA degrade so much to that of a community like GameFAQs? Who cares what phone he has. If he were posting in Development, I'd agree, but he's not, this is General. So let's drop the elitism.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] turilo:
Well thanks to all the great reviews in this thread it totally helped me make up my mind and skip getting the s4 and keeping my awesome note 2 :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jamezr:
Normally i would agree with you....but when you go to a forum for a phone you don't even own and say it is a crappy device....then that is just trolling trying to start something...

SkizzMcNizz was Quoted:

What about the many who have removed the bloat and still have a crappy device?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geokhentix:
When everyone in the thread is saying the device is crappy, which I have to say 90% of this thread is, then obviously it's not like he's here just to grind our gears. Some people browse forums to see if the handset is a good choice for them (Example, [MENTION=511819]turilo[/MENTION]), and some of them may have questions. He also didn't SAY it was a crappy device, he was asking about the state of the device after removing bloat, using the words that everyone else in this thread put in his mouth. I'm not trying to start drama or anything, so I meant no offense.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Yea I just read that. Still gonna stick with my One for a while. The roms it has already are really nice. Once I see what the development is like on the S4 and if it cure the lag then I'll probably pick another one up.

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Lol. I had the S4 for a day just thought I'd stop by to see what's going on. I'm keeping an eye on this forum cuz like I said I may still get an S4 again. I loved the way it felt and looked. That was the best part for me. I actually really liked the build quality.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mobeast17:
Weird, I seen this on the latest tab so I clicked it, I'm planning on getting the T-Mobile version, so I've been in their forum for a couple of days now and I haven't seen barely anyone mention lag, a couple people here and there but not this many. Could it be just AT&T's model? I haven't looked in sprints yet. I hope it gets an update my brother was planning on selling his HTC one for this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
The S4 I had was crappy. You want me to lie? If someone else has an S4 that compared to mine then yea they have a crappy device also. Maybe yours isn't and that's a good thing.

Anyways this has all just been my opinion. If you don't like it, hmm I don't know what to tell you lol. I hope this bootloader unlock makes this device shine because I'd like to pick it up again someday. There were many things I disliked but there were also many I liked. I'm sorry if you took that all as trolling lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tysj:
Coming from a Nexus 4, both stock 4.2.2 and CM10.1 have been the smoothest Android experience I have ever witnessed. My Nexus 10 is stellar, as well. For now, my S 4 is just sitting in its box waiting for return, sale, or some kernel/custom firmware that optimizes it. I really want to like it as the hardware is killer, but the user experience so far has been a big step down from my Nexus 4; but then again, what was I expecting?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
I've heard a lot of good things about the Sprint model except for the network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mobeast17:
Yeah I left them for T-Mobile because of the network lol. I actually played with a sprint model at best buy today now that I think about it! It was really smooth! Not a single hint of lag
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RMXO:
All the folks that are having issues with their S4, have you tried returning for a new one?

-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2

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TBH, I would try out for yourself. Not everyone is having issues. If I were them, I would return for another to see if u got a good one or dud.

How do you like TMO? I've been thinking of switching to them from AT&T once my contract is up in June.

-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Kurant1:
I was not impressed with the GS4 either. I have gone through the ranks, Captivate, Skyrocket, Note, GS3, and Note 2 - and can honestly say every phone was great. The GS4 wasn't impressive. I had the HTC One, and the GS4 came out and I chose to exchange it. I can't quite put a finger on it, but it's littered with bloatware. It can be choppy.

Interested to see a bloat free rom , and the phones first update. It's decent, but it's not everything it cracked up to be.

IMO, the Note 2 is still the best phone made to date.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] j510:
Why would we know this? Were all here because we are all getting or have the att version.

+From the launch debut on videos there was lag from display models by the way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
Why or how? ("how" would make more sense) EDIT: I stated that because that proves that it's AT&T's fault and not Samsungs as this is the only Galaxy S4 variant lagging like this.

The "announcement" videos did show some lag on the show room units, however that lag simply isn't present in the current unlocked retail units.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ovoxo.:
Seriously, I can't tolerate the lag anymore at this point.. It's driving me f****** nuts.. Opening and closing apps stutters like crazy, quickly typing a full sentence almost freezes the phone for about a second, trying to access the gallery after taking a photo is slowww.. the list goes on. I'm amazed that there are people reporting that their unit is completely lag-free.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jshahanii:
I think you should return your device, sounds like there is a problem with it... Mine is completely lag free and the fastest phone ive ever owned. Not rooted and in stock form. Disabled all the bloat but thats it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geokhentix:
I agree. I have over 120 apps on my phone, less than 1gb left of space, and I have no lag whatsoever. I'm rooted but I didn't freeze anything either.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] creed:
What lag?! (I'm on 3 network in UK)

I'm amazed at some of the problems some of you seem to be having with your S4's. Mine is almost perfect, there is no lag whatsoever, in fact I'm blown away by how fast this thing is! And the battery life is great, and this is coming from an S2. I'm really surpised by how efficient this thing is with such a massive brilliant screen. It lasts at least 50% longer than my S2 with the same use and that's with out a custom ROM (S2 was on gingerbread). I can't wait for the custom ROM's to come out.

Maybe it's because I don't have any bloatware being as I'm on 3 in the UK. I don't particularly like some of the Samsung stuff which I will get rid of later since I now have root but I really cannot fault this phone, it's simply incredible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tbong777:
LOL I made that decision before the S4 was released Always enjoy the early adopters reviews. Especially the OCD types. The "GAPGATE" thread is hilarious over on the HTC One forum. There is a gap a hair could not get through and some people are freaking out....Now these type of people HAVE to be the type who have like 10 cases and screen protectors protecting screen protectors. I swear some of the phone geeks have micron microscopes and are surveying every inch for defects....

Like anything, the more OCD one is the longer they should wait to get a new device. ME I am not OCD at all. Aesthetics mean little to me. I am all about the workings. I will wait for the Note 3. If its locked up I will get the International or keep what I have. The Note 2 is still the premiere device to have as far as I am concerned. Especially after reading both threads,

But I do thank the early adopters for all the great information. Without them Companies like Samsung and HTC would not have real beta testers. A POX on ATT for locking the bootloaders though. I have not had an ATT device since the Captivate. Nor am I likely to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Cusa:
I believe that some people have said that the snapdragon 600 in the s4 suffers from throttling. A kernel update might fix it I'm guessing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
Tried this tonight.. Maybe someone can also test to see if you get the same results as I did.

Most of my lag was whenever the keyboard was accessed. I have some minor lag here and there but the majority was when I attempted to use the keyboard.

I downloaded Swift Keyboard = Same lag / shuttering anytime the KB is accessed.

I downloaded 2 different Jelly Bean Keyboards from the Play Store = The use of each showed improvement with less lag and less shuttering.

I downloaded Thumb Keyboard = Almost no lag and no shuttering.

Re-enabled the Samsung KB and the lag and shuttering was back. The I re-enabled Swift and the same lag and shuttering was back.

Deleted all the keyboards except Thumb Keyboard and froze the Samsung Keyboard, I am now for the most part lag free. When I do have lag it is much less noticeable.

Why the keyboards would be so different I have no idea but for me at least the Samsung and Swift KB shuttered and lagged the most.

This is not really a fix because this phone should be lag free as it ships. Maybe someone else can test this and see if you get similar results that I did..

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Ya the Note 2 is looking pretty awesome about now!

Trying to decide once I chuck this POS S4 if I should get another Note 2 or wait and see if Google announces a Nexus 5 at i/0..

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Is Samsung ready for 14.7 million returns?

See above comment

I'd love to actually see a non laggy S4... All the ones on display act the EXACT same way as mine.. Lag, lag, lag....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Mrkrackie:
I've noticed if you turn off air view and other gimmick features that you aren't using it gets considerably faster.

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Do like the S4 more than the One?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
Actually I do like it better, minus the lag!

So I can't sleep tonight (to much coffee) and decided to put Nova Launcher on..

WOW!

Night and day difference. No lag whatsoever if I use Nova yet as soon as I change back to TW it's lag, lag, lag..

I am content using Nova for now and I have to wonder if all these people who have been saying they have no lag at all have been using a different launcher all this time..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
I'm using Apex Launcher and it doesn't lag either. Go ahead and freeze "TouchWiz Home" and "Easy Launcher" and it'll make it even faster (if you're rooted).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
Ya I currently have 94 apps frozen...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ttnuagmada:
I was having an issue with my keyboard lagging as well. It only seemed to happen if I was in landscape mode and typing something more than a sentence. It was really bad though, like to the point of lagging half of a second for each key I hit. Turning auto-correct off didn't help much either.

So, I managed to screw up my phone trying to delete some of the bloatware, and a factory reset wasn't fixing it, so I downloaded Kies and did a factory firmware restore, and it seems to have eliminated the keyboard issue completely, as well as reduce some of the other lag I was experiencing, this was before I even reduced any settings too.

I actually had the exact same keyboard issue on my Inspire 4G at one point. I think there must be something that triggers it somehow. I'm going to try and keep track of all the changes I make, so that I can hopefully spot the trigger if it starts happening again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mcaleer1:
Coming from the original note, at first I wasn't too thrilled (all the media hype about the useless extra features) however after disabling all the bloatware, hiding what I couldn't disable, and switching to nova launcher I couldn't be happier. The only gripe I have at this point is the horrible slow ass samsung transition when swiping the lock screen. Also I changed all the transition speeds in nova launcher to the fastest settings. Oh and don't use the autorotation app, it made my notification drop down slow as all get out. Hope this helps.

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I am interested in rooting just for freezing all the crap you can't dissable. In your opinion is it safe to root now with the current method or should I wait for recovery options. I am pretty comfortable with rooting however I'm far from a developer or even a "hacker". Sorry if some consider this hijacking I just didn't want to start a new thread with a simple question.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Dannyada1988:
For the new high-end Android device, there shouldn't be much difference, in my own experience.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
I odin'd back to stock earlier and still had the exact same lag..

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I'd say you are now safe to root as there is an odin / kies stock flashable firmware if you happen to soft brick the device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] colts187:
Everyone should just chill. At least there isn't the same QC issues like the one has. Mine lags a little but it doesn't really bother me. Nothing a little ota won't fix. I'm more concerned with the bs boot loader issue
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pezlomd:
Doing a hard factory reset I've noticed speeds up the phone a little bit. I have two of these and there is minimal lag
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EVOme:
I sure hope the Verizon version doesnt have this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] murphmar:
My Canadian i337m has noticeable stuttering during the open/close animation for applications, and lag between when the home button is pressed and when the animations begin. Other than that there is sometimes stuttering when scrolling homepages (I use Nova) or just scrolling in any app (facebook, falcon pro, messages, etc).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ratchetjaw:
I was the same way but after rooting my Htc One and sleep2wake and Logomenu button it was a no brainer and the Gs4 is back at at&t. I paid retail for it so didnt want it just sitting around not using it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
Are the bootloader locked on this version?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blackplague1347:
I just exchanged my One for an S4 at the end of my 14 day period yesterday so that I could give the S4 a chance. There really hasn't been that much lag. I think the phone is noticeably slower than the One in general performance, however (mostly). It's typically not enough to be bothersome. What IS bothersome, is the alarmingly frequent homescreen redraws. With 2gb of ram, I can't fathom why this keeps happening.

And yes, the lack of auto correct on the keyboard is just infuriating. Possibly my least favorite part of the phone so far.

Edit: and the pinch to zoom in the stock browser. Just awful. It was hardly functional on the Verge's website when I tried to use it last night. I might have to give Chrome a try.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] troubleshot:
Early adoption always will have issues. Same reason why I always wait to update windows until SP1 haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RMXO:
I doubt we will see 14.7m returns but seriously if u guys have a dud. Return it & get a new one. Use the 14 day return policy.

-Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4 using Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Rhamza161:
not noticing any huge lag problems. The only thing I notice is a slight lag when pressing the home screen button. Honestly, I don't expect this phone to perform as if it had 16gb of ram, my computer with 8gb runs faster...because it has 8gb of ram and faster processor. It is pretty easy to also note that this is a phone, the miniature computer. It will have lag problems because it isn't a full computer with full computer components. As soon as we get Intel i7's on phones, they will not be lag free. Expectations limited by experiences honestly.

That being said, I *love* the phone and all that it can do. Battery life is amazing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
HUH????????

Sorry but this is absolutely 100% false information..