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[LG Optimus 4X HD] UIQrules:
But it's not untrue, that's the entire point. An opinion based on close to nothing, however wrong or unperceptive, is still true. That's the subjective assessment of how things work. "I think the Moon is a cheese-wheel!" is utterly true. The person believes that the moon is a cheese, and is simply establishing the fact that he or she thinks it is a cheese. Which is a true statement.

Why someone would insist on stating that to every scientist they can find is another good question, I suppose, along with how much astroturfing pays nowadays. But it's still not an untrue statement to insist that you believe the moon is a cheese.

And I'm not about to say that you're lying, because your impression is clearly wrong from pretty much any other point of view, or any half-reasonably good comparison, that has any sort of reference point that can be gauged, even by eye-target. It's still not "lying" to state your own opinion, however wrong it may be.

That's obviously not how it works.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
switching things over will get you eloquency points, nothing else. i've asked you what in my comparison is untrue, and which information that i presented as fact, is not a fact but yet an oppinion. i have not asked you if i'm really thinking what i'm thinking, since that's redundant. now, if you want to debate the issue with facts, instead of eloquent "that's, just like, your oppinion, man", feel free, otherwise, we have nothing to discuss.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] @non4:
I agree with you. Same gaming woes on both phones, sense has better support and so many more Roms and kernels. An sdcard slot and marginally better screen isn't worth the switch. S3 however, I wouldn't say it's particularly more powerful, but devs know what to do with it, hence stuff is generally better optimized. Battery is a little better than ours, it has a physical home button so no annoying quit to home during texts. Better speaker, more features, dozens of roms. I would recommend it too. I wouldn't recommend a nexus 4 though unless you can get a 64GB as there's no external sd. But it has an amazing chip and gpu, an latest android updates from google

Sent from my rooted P880
[LG Optimus 4X HD] friartuckme:
hi, mine dying was my own error, i was on the 234xx lg 4xhd and it i had discovered that with the chinese kdz i could get the phone to say the bootloader was unlocked(post is here in forums) but when android was loaded it was still saying it was locked so i booted in fastboot and done the command to delete the bootloader as in my thinking if it was locked it should of given me a failed notice but it didnt and ended up deleting my bootloader
[LG Optimus 4X HD] UIQrules:
But that's my point, isn't it? That the reason why for example you, and others, are posting something that has no real discussion value, can't be used to compare devices, or really say much about the products or the features on them, etc. ..Why you're doing that seems a bit difficult to pick up on.

Specially when you're doing it in a thread where you are likely to expect posts from users who have some sort of subjective experience with the phone that they're going to explain, etc. And few people seem to do that. In favour of posting their opinion, and then not explaining it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
i think i have sufficiently backed up my opinion with facts which i do not inted to repeat. your opinion is as valid as anyones, but yet you've given none, instead choosing to berate the participants of this thread for theirs, and acuse them of astroturfing (lol), with no factual basis at all. thus, i believe your participation in this thread is not one that the post i've replied to requires, or that the topic itself calls for, actually. it's inflammatory, unnecessary and ill-spirited. i have said all i need to say about this issue, and will refrain from further discussion. good day to you sir.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Miktet:
I like this device! It was fast and responsive but the camera wasent good. i dident like the build quality either it was flimmsy in my opinion!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nilsantosbr:
well, maybe i dont have many options now. or i stay with my hox or i buy a S3. 4X is a great phone but change my phone to another equal doesnt seems very good

i have this hox since the release, so for me its a long time with the same phone. Only last year i had a iPhone 4S, a LG Optimus Black an then this HOX.

maybe the other option is wait more and get s4 with discount. here in Brazil, a s4 costs $ 1000, an s3 costs $700
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
Jesus, guys, wait for nVidia Tegra 4 and Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 devices later this year.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] @non4:
Not everyone has the money, that's why I got O4X in the first place! :P £18 a month with unlimited internet :D

Sent from my rooted P880
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jory9:
Very happy with my phone!! Battery life is amazing on jb 4.1.2 , addes picture
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dann1989:
Maybe I buy Xiaomi Mi2S, but does not have an SD card slot and you can not remove the batteries. Or is it better to wait until the Snapdragon 800?

http://www.ibuygou.com/p-original_x...capacitive_touchscreen_gps_wifi-4647-eur.html
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Winudert:
Cheap. I paid about 520 euros for O4X HD three days after release in the last summer.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] RxLiTrO:
i love this phone but i miss voice dialer in stock :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] manganoid:
Hi, I too am planning on buying a new phone and I'm thinking between Galaxy S3 and 4X HD. The main concern is the overheating you people mentioned, because I'm planning on using it outdoors and with GPS on. Is there a way to make it heat less, is there some custom or third party back cover that can lessen the heat? the main reason, also, I'd like to buy this phone is because it's 275 EUR in our country, whereas the S3 is 370 EUR. I like games, but not too obsessed about it. I could buy a backup battery, so battery drain shouldn't be a problem. My current phone is Omnia 7 (a WP7 phone). The OS support for it, as well as the GPS lock time, are awful. Is LG 04x better in GPS lock time?

Thanx in advance
[LG Optimus 4X HD] babymatteo:
My 4X HD was good while it lasted...until I picked up my HTC One M7. This phone is the Beauty and the Beast all in one. Seriously.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] oblikas:
what about Nexus 4?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] manganoid:
Well, Nexus 4 does sound tempting (Quadcore Krait, Future-proof, around 350 EUR) but no memcard slot, no removable battery and I LOVE to experiment wih the software as well (root, custom roms etc..) Plus, a big downer is the glassy back cover 'cos I'm a pretty clumsy guy. Maybe the 16GB Nexus might be appropriate, but as I've heard (correct me if I'm wrong) it heats pretty much as well. I've seen some heating tests and Galaxy s3 seems colder than LGs but mostly because it drops the CPU clock drastically when overheating.

Thanx for the fast response, nevertheless
[LG Optimus 4X HD] oblikas:
I used S3 before Nexus 4.I can say it's a very good device,better than S3.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Hallako:
I could recommend this phone you dont get good as this as low price as this. I could say that i was satisfied to original rom and camera was good at least for me. Battery life is just like all other smartphones like this with gaming 3-4hrs and low use mainly calls can stand even few days. Screen is also sharp and bright can easily read on sunshine. I like too how it look

That heating/throttling in heavy constant load is probably only minus becouse i dont see that lg support/updates is issue at least unlocked bootloader.

Now i have flashed cyanogenmod 10.1 and now this is super good and with cm UI it is snappier and feel really good also heating reduced noticable amount. This is very recommandable if you can flash it.

i've had mines now for half year. :good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] shadowcore:
I was not satisfied with this phone,I had to install cyanogenmod to get rid of some the annoiying bugs such as brightness dim.That means rooting,CWM, unlocking bootloader and so on. Quite a headache for somebody, like me, who does not care about modding that much. Suffice to say that cyanogenmod is a far better rom than the stock rom in terms of smoothness, feel and so on.

The phone overheats. I dont know how that will affect its lifetime but suffice to say is that Its not a good thing for the health of the phone.

When I bought it, I then discovered a stuck pixel being always white.

I would gladly change my phone for these misfits but with custom roms, this phone would get a 4 out 5 from me. Without rooting, its simply a bad experience. Especially with the bloat and LG MLT eating away battery life.

Since its price dropped alot, its a good phone with a lot of things that users have to fix with root or custom roms and kernels.

I dont think that the S3 or One X were better though. 2012 phones had quality issues. Of the new phones, I would prefer the Xperia Z because of its design and form. I dislike round phones. Sadly, it does not have a removable battery.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tricky-tricky:
I just want to know how voice calls are... I know I'm one of those few people that users their phones to make calls! I have read blogs that say that calls sound muffled and/or with echo... Some say the sound from the ear piece is quite and noisy... What is your experience guys?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
I have no problem with my 4X HD . I can hear the caller's voice even when I'm in a room where loud music.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] UIQrules:
...Not completely sure how this works. I use a relatively cheap wired stereo headset with a mic, and it's usually better than any of my previous phones. But I think it depends on how the network you're connected to uses compression. As in, if you're in a location where they use lower bandwidth, or compress the signal partially, the modes for the playback can end up magnifying noise and distortion. Because when traveling a bit, the quality has been more variable than I expected. And that sounds like echo or gaps if the negotiation is often enough. So as a guess, I'd say that's the cause.

Likely this depends on the JB/ICS setup from LG, though. Because the decompression and so on is handled programmatically on the "core" OS, not in a specific "voice module", or somesuch. So I'm pretty sure that this is a bit variable between locations, and the version of the OS the test-samples run. The distance to the ear mic when you actually touch the screen with your ear, to the distance back to the mic when you're not using a headset as well -- this could be an issue for some.

I know this modulation issue also has been a bit of a problem with htc phones on 3g/gsm switching. It's a.. how to put this.. a kind of specific problem that apparently is worked around on the network level (most OMAP type designs have one bitrate playing and recording, and breaks/doubles compression often - this is the kzzzhhh-tapclack sounds you hear, when the compression changes externally). So for a value of teapot, it might actually be that the tegra/software control phones, that "waste" cpu-cycles on compression and filtering are better at this point..

Another reminder that everything truly is relative and subjective, I guess. But my general impression when using the 4x for just talking in gsm or 3g network is something like this: Completely silent in the background, clear and non-hardware filtered voice in the ear, my voice is picked up easily on different volumes, and it's equally good for a lighter voice (still without audibly cutting off parts of the spectrum.. Pretty impressed by that actually.. Usually it's "bucket" when the voice is low and higher-pitched, or you automatically raise your voice to compensate, etc). But mileage may vary in different networks.

Honestly, you should just go and try one out. The cost is low enough for the phone to be possible to buy and change back if it doesn't fit. And it's expensive enough that you'll get the full attention of the people in a shop if you're asking about one.. so.. And it's actually neat to have your own headset and test a couple of phones back to back in the same noise-environment in a shop :) Something you don't think about when testing phones for reviews, and so on. Say, if you're sitting in an office with an air-condition -- your ears just tune out stuff that normally would drive you nuts.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Ayasegaki:
This phone is great but the battery usage is awful. Such a letdown.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
ayasegaki, reduce your brightness or put it to automatic. My battery life is about one day if I use it heavy (calls, msgs, wi-fi surfing) ...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] UIQrules:
That won't really help all that much.. If you don't uninstall LG's "today" widget, drop the mlt service, remove some of the automatically spawned services, etc., the battery will always drain in less than one day no matter how little you're using it.

..but in reverse... if it actually does idle properly, you can use it actively for an entire day without draining the battery..

(Can be a good idea to disable 3g.. if you're not using services that rely on it. Can easily add another 3 hours of talk-time, double the standby time, etc., by doing that.. Since the antenna module actually powers off as well when you disable it, dropping the gps, wifi, 3g, etc., has a pretty huge impact overall. Instead of just giving you a boost when constantly talking, etc..)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Monskiller:
I'm actually quite content with my phone. The hardware is great and I love the external desing/look. The UI from LG looks great IMO, I love it. But the software is kinda sloopy. I would change the ROM for a bit better performance but I'd miss the OptimusUI. I'm waiting for MIUI now, hoping it'll come out anytime soon.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Pquad:
This phone is great, but I hate that I have a quad core processor and most of the heavy games are lagging... It really needs some optimizations ..

Inviato dal mio LG-P880 con Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Boris31:
Seems like LGE messed up so hard. Every one has that problem. We need good developers out here. It seems like phone uses 30% of his strenght all the time
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Monskiller:
It's their own software. I'm not the first person who believes LG just makes sloppy builds. One of my friends who had an LG smartphone (2X I think) had terrible experience until he changed the ROM.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
I'm satisfied with my stock rom....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] anGel_pLayer:
LG makes great phone builds. One of the reason sI bought this as my first android phone is because of the phone design...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] abderman:
stock is better then cm

stock is better then cm:cool:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Monskiller:
I meant the Software build, not the hardware one.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] abderman:
Is heating dangerous to my 4X?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] cickvoa:
it is not healthy for the battery, but you shouldnt take care about that, because manufacturers must put protection
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kacyano:
Now i'm happy my 4X HD with CM 10.1 RC4...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mobrol:
hi

I'm very happy with my stock rom-nova launcer-iodak kernel 4x!

the battery gets better and better and the phone is very smooth
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hippow:
Im also happy with my phone.

Im using the Eternity CM version with the kernek. very smooth and good battery life
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ruzin.aleksandar:
Battery Life and heating

I don't know about you guys but my phone gets very hot after few minutes of playing, also if I use gps and mobile data the battery lasts about 2 hours... Any opinions on this? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] combat2k:
questions

Hello, lads,

i want to buy this one because of the cheap price and quad core, but reading online reviews gave me some headaches :)

so.. my questions are:

- no problem about battery life and heating problem, but how's the lag in games? only in stock roms or in custom as well?

- the same problem with video camera (each 5 seconds auto focusing)? only in stock roms or in custom as well?

- some reviews write about the clarity of screen because the able-to-see distance between the screen and the protecting glass... anyone have a cons opinion about it?

i think that should be all..

thanks in advance..

regards,

Daniel.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
autofocus problem solved with program called "lgcamera". It is free on google play.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] combat2k:
thanks, i didn't know about that...

what about the other issues?

10x,

Daniel.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
I do not play games a lot so I can't tell you anything about it. I play a couple simple games and it works well.

The thing about screen and glas -- I don't know what the hell they see . It is stupid to talk about - really !

My final opinion that this is great phone. And yes, it got very warm when playing games but LG said that is not problem so ..... I do not worry about that. Camera is great on daylight but when you are in the room where is not enough light, camera is poor.

I don't mind that because I have canon eos 550 d for photos :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] brunek:
I`m very happy with my phone! Screen is awesome,the phone is fluid,no laggs at all and the battery is very good for my likening! Even with baseband wakelock problem my battery last over 2 days with normal usage!:good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kholk:
[MENTION=4479549]combat2k[/MENTION]

The camera is total crap compared to other phones like the HTC One X and even my old Motorola RAZR XT910, daylight or not.... but anyway, it produces acceptable photos and videos and remember that I'm comparing it to really pricey phones!

That price is achieved using cheap hardware (cheap camera and cheap display), but something has been solved by software: both display and camera are better and by overall, even with all I said, I'm happy with my O4X.

If you want a Tegra3 phone, your choice is between HTC and LGE... and even if HTC's display and camera are a lot better, it's OVERPRICED A LOT, so... I'd choose LGE.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
kholk, display is awesome
[LG Optimus 4X HD] brunek:
Yes,display is the best in the game!

poslano s ubojitog LG 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nedooo:
Yup, I sold LG 4X and got Nexus 4 and 4X has better display, camera seems more less same...overheating is bypassed with kernels that do undervolting and also removing screen dim due to heat...still Nexus 4 is more powerful (stillnot as much as I expected)...all in all 4X is good...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] DankoFGL:
LG has a IPS 1280X720 display, the colors are excelent, also dark colors are excelent, so i can't call it a CHEAP display, and the camera con V20A is good, i recorded a 1Gb 13 mins 1080p videos in constant moving and the stability was good...

the lag on the phone i don't really have it with V20A and stock kernel, tryed various customs but the cause fast overheat, just Root, install LG P880 Boost app and put the GPU to 345Mhz and the temperature to 50° and thats all... the gaming is good in all games... Dead Trigger works great un ultra, Real racing in high, MC4 works also great, now downloading Vice City... for testing...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] AndreaFar:
The camera has a really soft noise reduction despite the aggressive noise reduction of HTC and Samsung so according the personal preference the higher noise of Optimus X4 in poor light conditions may be annoying... but I don't see this as

for One X (maybe a bit better according the personal preferences, maximum sharpness vs more polished with no evident digital noise).

For the display there isn't any vantage of OneX... Why One X display should be considered a lot better??? :rolleyes:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xman_here:
Ummm... Yes.. May be... We don't know if we'll get any more updates but LG today said L7 II will feature Android 4.3 out of the box. This makes me feel good cos if that handset can handle latest OS then ours can do it as well...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ScardracS:
This will be my phone this summer (in july).. I'll hope i'll buy very good device :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Mazzy987:
after Wildfire s, you will think that you have laptop in your hands hahaha.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ScardracS:
And it will very speedy!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] mobrol:
I`m happy but I am thinking so much changing to a wp8 phone to try the new OS.. I got bored of android
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jonteftw1:
Yeah im happy with it, tho i would have bought an nexus 4 or an optimus g instead, those doesnt cost much more than optimus 4x, and have better performance :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Invicta:
Dont do it, i came back from wp8 after a brief change because I got bored of android too, wp8 is so immature... Almost not worth the effort
[LG Optimus 4X HD] disadjusted:
decision for/against p880

this might be interesting for [MENTION=4695495]moly82[/MENTION] :cowboy:

so you are satisfied with the p880? :confused:

i like your style of argumentation :laugh:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Koersten:
Yes. I am completely happy
[LG Optimus 4X HD] somatsavo:
worth to buy?

Hi guys,

So i would like to change my current phone (O2x) and price is an issue for me, i looked around and found the 4x is a very competitively priced unit at my service provider compared to the specs. (at least on paper). I read through this topic already but i would prefer someone's recent experience with different ROMs. I'm using CM ROM on my O2x and it gave new life to that old phone and i would also like to change to CM if i will decide to by the 4x. So i would like to know how stable / battery frendly / smooth the latest LG ROM is (overheating, wakelocks, BSODs, etc...)? What about CM based ROMs? I would be very thankful if someone can write about the issues, improvements and uptime on current official/custom ROMs.

Thanks in advance.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ezet:
Hello,

I am thinking of buying this phone sometime soon.

My main concern here is the camera quality. I hear that it has autofocus issues.

Is this the case and how bad is it? On low light conditions when you'll try to get a shot of yourself with the rear camera when normally your hand will shake a bit does it take good photos or it's all blurry?

Also there is an official unlock method that doesn't void the warranty?

What are if there are any major bugs?

Thanks for your answers!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] KiD3991:
Heat and wakelocks is the problem of this rom. But fixable just walk around the forum and you can find it. The device is simply powerful even when underclocked to 1.0ghz. Battery life isn't really satisfying despite it is 2150mah. Overall experience is awesome, performance can even overpower S4 and HTC One in some terms.

Official unlock states that warranty WILL be voided.

The camera was great, I can see some minor blurs when completely zoomed in but that's normal.

Major bugs is the wakelock, and hardware wise its the battery life when screen on.

I repeat, camera is great, low light conditions takes better photos surprisingly, using v10h(if your country dont have that you might reconsider downloading and applying from other open source).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] theasus:
The gaming is really bad. It lags most of the the game. And I couldn't solve this iisue.

So I'm not happy with 4X.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] @non4:
Stock + IODAK kernel runs fantastic. If a game lags with this kernel its the game devs fault