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[Galaxy S 4 General] chalid:
For all doom-sayers: The Galaxy S3 had the exact same problem.

https://community.verizonwireless.com/thread/777720

And what happend to the SGS3? Nothing. It will be the same with the SGS4. People with the problem just had bad luck bending the phone too much in their pockets. If you absolutely want to eliminate the chance of such damages, get a thicker phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] coolraghav:
Finally gave my s4 to 'samsung service center' and they are charging me around about INR 12000 (USD 218) for Screen replacement and will check hardware themeselves if anything else also got damaged coz of drop.

My brother has iPhone 5 and his phone has been dropped like this i've seen like twice and nothin has happened to it. I'm completely shocked with the build quality. I'll use this phone less of now as its not meant for me. I am frankly a rough user and if a phone needs to be cared like girls do to teddy bear..I really cannot guess what else to say.

But can the EXPERTS tell me (recommend) what cover I should purchase Spigen etc ? But just shouldn't make my phone bulky!

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Sorry about that. Sloppy cutting and pasting. I fixed it. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] SATAN999:
No problem, thanks for the fix! :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
Wow. INR 12000! That's nearly twice of what it costs to fix the S3 :(

Tough luck, bro. As far as cases go, it's a matter of preference -- check your local shops or eBay to find what you like. I picked up a case along with my phone (in Dubai). Bluewire or something, Canadian I believe -- good enough for me and is not bulky at all.
[Galaxy S 4 General] coolraghav:
yeah man, this phone is costing around half a lakh to me already ..lol. :confused:

I was thinking about spigen case or any other you guys recommend ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] SATAN999:
Just seen this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2271880
[Galaxy S 4 General] pitapart:
I do confirm that Galaxy S4 is very weak !

Amoled screen dead after a drop of 50 centimeters . It slipped from my hand ; Gorilla glass undamaged .

Cost to fix it : 220 € and I think that it will take me 1 hour ( or 2...) to repair it by myself.

Samsung flip case totally ineffective = too thin

Bad Luck
[Galaxy S 4 General] chalid:
That's what it is ... I dropped mine twice already (actually, one time the cat pushed it off the table) from more than 50 centimeters and nothing happend.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yoh65:
...is your son the reincarnation of picasso, drawing like that?! :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] bmoreboy02:
Lol thats a picture if him in his ravens helmet. He likes going into photo editor and drawing in his pictures
[Galaxy S 4 General] LadyDiana0265:
my daughter had the same case. her phone fell out of her pocket when she knelt down to pick something off the floor, she was almost on her knees...so it DROPPED ONTO ITS BACK from about 18 inches... and the friggin' amoled inside has cracks and now the screen is completely blacked out! my son has dropped his S4 NUMEROUS times WITHOUT a case and NO PROBS . I have dropped my S3 TOO MANY TIMES..WITH an OTTER CASE..and NO PROBS. Even the tests in videos online show the S4 surviving falls from over 7 feet from the ground!!! IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!!! I have NEVER been disappointed with Samsung as I am right now. If they won't cover this....I will no longer spend my money on their products in the future.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Metallice:
People who have been unlucky and have had their old phones break after a drop

- drop their S4 and it is fine -> "phew"

- drop their S4 and it breaks -> "darn. Sucks but not surprising..."

People who have been very lucky not to break their old phones after dropping them

- Drop their S4 and its fine -> "that's normal"

- Drop their S4 and it breaks -> " OH MY GOD THE S4 IS SO WEAK I BETTER POST ON XDA!"

(By the way I'm currently in option 3 :) dropped my s4 a couple times and it is fine... Just like my Gnex)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Euthye:
Lol, my lads are teens this ^^ attitude will serve you well lol.
[Galaxy S 4 General] amviewer:
The gorilla glass is also very sensitive to scratches. I've put the phone in a separate bag so it didn't get sand in there when going to the beach. But of course somthing got in there but spotted it to late. I've done worse to the s3 before and no scratches at all. I think samsung really done us cheap on the build.
[Galaxy S 4 General] JustSueMe:
Ok a few things.

1st off you should have warranty if u only had it 3days unless u was stupid enough to use ebay.

2. What kinda parents are you, letting him run riot and throwing devices.

That kid needs to feel the buckel end of a belt then tossed intk the road. Devices don't deserve to be treated like that.

3. This is XDA phones have more priority over stupid kids :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] bmoreboy02:
1st of all no warranty is gona cover a broken phone. 2nd im not hittin my kid with a belt buckel over a dumbass phone. 3rd he has his own evo lte he uses on wifi and yes i let him play with my htc one and my fiance lets him play with her s4 and all 3 phones are now in otterboxes. And fyi no phone, tablet, computer or any electronic over my son!
[Galaxy S 4 General] JustSueMe:
My warranty covers damages and will replace parts or device if multiple damages.

If yout kid has no respect for your things he shouldn't be allowed to use them, as you stated he has done it more than once.

You need to be more strict or don't have kids, atm it sounds like you have no conrol.

Finally "phone tablet computer electronic" is smarter, id lean more towards higher intelligence lol.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bmoreboy02:
Hes 2 years old no he dose not have respect bc he dosent know better so why would i beat him. Yes he has thrown them once but theyve all had otterboxes and his nabi has a thick rubber case so hows it his fault he dont know what a case is? I dont give a **** how smart a phone or tablet is NOTHING is more important then my son. He spilled juice on my beats pill speaker and also put a dent in my dodge charger with his scooter. I bought a new radio and got the dent pulled and didnt lay a hand on him. Hes a kid accidents happen. You dont beat kids for accidents
[Galaxy S 4 General] Metallice:
This line of conversation needs to be stopped before it spirals out of control. Let's just agree that people have different views on corporal punishment... One that is supported by innumerable social studies on future externalizing behaviors, risk behaviors, and negdtive outcomes... and the other supported by years of cognitive dissonance, anecdotal evidence, and distorted self-reflection.

Now let's get back to complaining about how fragile our S4s are!! Woot.
[Galaxy S 4 General] clonednull:
*joke on* samsung recall = release of the next device *joke off* :D

back to serious: comfort for your broken screens mates, hope they where some faulty units suffering some lcd quality weakness and not the norm.. :fingers-crossed:

[MENTION=3344040]bmoreboy02[/MENTION]: please try to ignore all personal educational tips you got from all this "wise" comments. in my experience the people who dont even have children try to give you the best tips... ;)

you have a wonderfull and curious son wich is lurking for experience dont hold him back :good:

a wise man once said "the word of sin is restriction" :angel:
[Galaxy S 4 General] LadyDiana0265:
broken s4 screen

well...considering my daughter had her NEW S4 for TWO WEEKS....i wouldn't consider that OLD. and since it only fell approx 18 INCHES from the floor WITH a PROTECTIVE CASE on THE BACK...and the GLASS IS FINE but the AMOLED IS CRACKED...and my son (who got his NEW S4 just ONE WEEK B4 she got hers...has dropped his MULTIPLE times from waist/chest height WITHOUT a protective case)....leads me to think her phone has a defect. From what I have been reading...I may be right. BTW...I have dropped my S3 DOZENS of times...in ALL SORTS of situations...WITH a protective case on..and it is JUST FINE...YET there was a recall on the S3's b/c they were breaking so easily. What does that mean? Just like with a recall on cars when NOT ALL cars are affected...neither are ALL phones (thus the reason my son's S4 is fine...and so is yours and my S3 is FINE...b/c we don't have a DEFECTIVE one)!!! I'm really sick of the 'oh you're just complaining b/c it's YOUR fault and you don't want to admit it! IF we didn't want to 'accept' responsibility....we wouldn't admit to her having dropped it! It doesn't take ROCKET SCIENCE to see the common link in all these phones with busted AMOLEDS and the post about the rumors of Samsung trying to decide whether to recalll or just fix them just lends more merit to what we are saying!!!YOU don't KNOW ME or my FAMILY...don't dont ASS.U.ME to!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Metallice:
What you're experiencing right now is a combination of coincidence and confirmation bias. You are incorporating information that supports your views, like this thread, and dismissing all opposing information. I don't claim to know you or your family, but I do claim to have a basic understanding of human psychology and statistics from biological research.

I'm also not blaming anyone like you suggest. I never said "it's all your fault." Dropping a phone is like playing the lottery. It all depends on how it lands. If it lands perfectly on the front, cracked glass. If it drops perfectly on the corner at a 90 degree angle, cracked display. This is why drop tests are worthless unless attached to a drop machine that keeps phones from rotating.

I'm sorry your daughter was unlucky and her phone landed at a bad angle. It really does suck, but it doesn't change the fact that this entire thread is like something ripped from a psych101 textbook. I've been lucky with my drops so far, but I'm well aware that the next one might not be.

Edit: oh and by old phones I meant the phone owned previous to the S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] LadyDiana0265:
Maybe you should :D Either the good news will cheer us up...OR someone will call for your head. I guess it depends on what kind of sense of humor you have & how brave you are.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rockstarar:
[MENTION=3344040]bmoreboy02[/MENTION] you are a wonderful father. Don't take advice from people without kids, man. Best of luck; you know what you're doing
[Galaxy S 4 General] LadyDiana0265:
Duly Noted. But, I don't agree that I am being biased. Eventhough this involves my daughter, one of my greatest strengths is the ability to be objective. While many ppl have dropped their phones many times from various heights with or without a protective case (and their phones have landed on various angles)... have had NO damage...it stands to reason that phones that are being dropped from SHORT distances onto various surfaces WITH protective cases (at varioius angles) with LITTLE impact OR just have them in their pockets with NO impact should NOT get damaged. But they do. I still stand by my belief that there is a defect in SOME of these phones. I only agree it is 'bad luck' in the sense that she was unlucky to get a defective phone while my son wasn't. Thankfully....we are loyal Telus customers and the manager of the store has taken our case directly to head office & is trying to get the repair covered,or at the very least have them cover 1/2 the costs. He was the one that told me there WAS a recall (or coverage for repair costs) on the S3's for weak screens, so I don't doubt that is what will happen with the S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Metallice:
It certainly is possible. Good luck.
[Galaxy S 4 General] elucid:
On the plus side, these threads have scared me from my minimalist case. I went out and bought a Otterbox Commuter.
[Galaxy S 4 General] LadyDiana0265:
SMART CHOICE. Ironically..I have an Otterbox Case on my S3 and not a single scratch after MULTIPLE drops and kicks across the floor (I am an admitted clutz), yet my son has NO protective case on his S4 and has had a few drops as well. I think that if you have a defective S4, NO CASE is going to save it! HOWEVER, I just read that Otterbox just bought out LIFEPROOF ( http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19512_7-57585805-233/otterbox-acquires-rival-lifeproof/ ) and they will be coming out with a case for the S4 this summer...and until they do...when we get my daughter's phone back, it WILL be getting an OTTERBOX case on it!,but once the LifeProof case comes out this summer, we will switch to that (they are waterproof,dirtproof,snowproof AND shockproof. DEFINITELY worth the extra $$$ to protect a $700 investment!
[Galaxy S 4 General] cocreateguid:
In a Christmas morning, my 2-year old son grabbed my HTC Hero and threw it into the toilet. The phone ended up dead. His reason was "it seemed too arrogant" :(

But ever since then he did not do this kind of things to my phones. Phew.
[Galaxy S 4 General] calum96:
I don't use a case, just screen and camera lens protectors (with an iron man battery cover :D) and mines just fine, if you're carefull and don't put it in situations where your going to drop it onto concrete ect. It'll be fine, people need to stop blaming "faulty" S4's the phones slim as s*** with a massive screen edge to edge of course take going to break when being dropped onto hard surfaces at least 50% of the time depending on the height angle ect. If you've dropped your s4 (or any other slim/large phone) and its not broken you're lucky and should not think oh well but thank God I didn't crack my £500+ phone..
[Galaxy S 4 General] CandyPanda:
I regret reading this thread, made me paranoid :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
Me too.
[Galaxy S 4 General] trueblueram:
It had it's chin up :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] CandyPanda:
Okay, not impressed with the S4 build quality either, my Display/Glass Unit isnt really glued on the top left corner of the phone.

If I push it down I hear a cracking sound.

Might just be my phone though, its 2 days old
[Galaxy S 4 General] cocreateguid:
Lol, that's a good one.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jody2k:
Lol yes that would be just yours I guess
[Galaxy S 4 General] cocreateguid:
I would call it a defective unit. See if you can get it replaced.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jedi2011:
Simple solutions:

Don't drop your £500 phone.

Don't put your £500 phone in a place where it can get damaged.

Don't give your £500 phone to children.

And above all:

Don't be surprised when something made out of thin brittle glass and flexible plastic breaks when you do something stupid with it.

/thread.
[Galaxy S 4 General] superutp:
Oh dear! I have had the same issue since day1. When I press the top centre section (in between the IR blaster & the microphone on top) I get a cracking sound.

I have crossed the replacement period.

Though, doesnt impact anything since mine is mostly in its case.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ahpaulsen:
Cracked screen

I`ve just got the same fault on my phone.

Sent a message, put it in my pocket. Walked from my car into the house and when I where about to answer the reply, the screen was cracked. Only the screen not the glass broke. A crack from the upper right corner going alongside the upper side, and down on the middle of the left side.

I had it in my right front pocket, screen facing into my leg and had the flip-cover on.
[Galaxy S 4 General] maldinimi:
Gets scratched very easily as well. Gorilla glass 2 is a very cool story.

Sent from my SGH-M919
[Java for Android App Development] IvanMunson:
Has anybody tried to use Google Chrome Bookmark synchronization from an Android device?

I've developed some sync Chrome extensions that uses bookmark sync to sync shared data, I'd like to sync them in the Android version too. Is there a way to read Chrome Bookmarks?

If it's not possible, what's the best way to sync a Chrome Extension with an Android app?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
Does anyone know where the quiet hours stuff is hidden on this phone? It's on stock 4.2.2, so how come I can't find it on this phone?

Also, how come third party keyboards don't work? I set it as default and it opens, but doesn't actually type anything...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
Oh, and is there a way to get a battery percentage icon instead of the standard one?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ShaunUK:
Battery % is under "Settings", "My Device", "Display", "Display Battery Percentage". Would also like to know about quiet hours.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] welshman010:
For Battery Percentage go to

Settings >> My Device >> Display >> Scroll to more settings,

Unsure about third party keyboards. Swiftkey and SlideIT worked fine for me. Currently using SlideiT
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] phositadc:
Quiet hours is called blocking mode, broseph.

Sent from my HTC One
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
Thanks guys, I've now got battery percentage on the notification bar and enabled quiet hours again. Why the hell is it called blocking mode, that's just stupid. Oh well, thanks again!

Now just to figure out why the keyboard can't actually type anything in the text boxes! Works in landscape mode, but not portrait...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
In fact, are we sure blocking mode just silences the phone, or does it actually block any incoming calls, texts and emails like it's name would suggest?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dacbeth:
Settings, Blocking Mode for Quiet, can't help with keyboard?.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
Right, blocking mode ISN'T quiet hours, it actually blocks all calls and notifications when activated.

So where is quiet hours, where it just goes on silent?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robpc:
I've been trying Llama (a free alternative to Tasker) and its great for setting up things like a Quiet Time based on location, hours or whatever. I've got it set up to disable 3G, syncing (both to save battery life) and go quiet between midnight and 6:30am. I don't think its quite as good as Tasker but its free, so I'll persist for a little longer.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
That reminds me, I got tasker years ago! Didn't think to use that for some reason. There is DEFINITELY a quiet hours function in stock 4.2.2 though, I doubt samsung would have removed it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
Got it doing it via tasker for now until I can find the proper way.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
The keyboard works now, it needed an update from the play store to work on a high resolution screen. All sorted now, thanks guys!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mittaa:
This app from Play is very good in case Samsung removed it:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.QuiteHypnotic.SilentTime&feature=related_apps&hl=en_GB
[LG Optimus Black] VcOEM:
Hi,

I am getting very strange behavior - I can flash CM10 stable using CWM but if I try to flash CM7 , CM10.1nightly or Zeus 7.06 I always get bootloop. After that I can only bting the phone to life using SmartFlashTool and official V30B firmware.

Here is the flow:

1) Press volume "+" and plug usb to use SmartFlashTool with official V30B

2) Have working official V30B

3) Root + install CWM + reboot to recovery + clean/wipe

4) a. flash CM10 stable - All OK

b. flash CM7 stable - bootloop (LG logo) - goto 1)

c. flash CM10.1 nightly - bootloop (LG logo) - goto 1)

d. flash Zeus 7.06 - bootloop (LG logo) - goto 1)

Any advise how can I flash anything apart from CM10?

:rolleyes:

Thanks!
[LG Optimus Black] N00BY0815:
You cant install cwm on official v30... I bet your device is broken...

Sent from my battery eating android monster!
[LG Optimus Black] VcOEM:
The device is quite Ok.

I was able to resolve the issue by flashing official V20C. After that flashing CM7 and Zeus was successful.

Will stay on CM10 stable - looks more nice and up-to-date.

Thanks everyone!

P.S. well, it was not purely original V30 but patched with CWM and rooted. Perhaps this was an issue but anyway it's not clear why CM10 was flashed ok while CM7 was failing.

;)
[LG Optimus Black] rajeshmk2012:
It's because the bootloader for ICS and 2.3 are different. .that's why boot failed for cm7 etc....and cm10 nightly may be buggy
[LG Optimus Black] conquesoextra:
Flash a v20 first and then Zeus.

Enviado desde mi LG-P970h usando Tapatalk 2
[Asus Transformer TF700] FrostByghte:
I'm running CROMi-Xenogenesis 4.4 ODEX and have not posted enough to post in the actual development thread...so posting in General. :) This is a fresh install and the main application I am running after install is Waze (gps location type app for driving/navigation). Running this application results in random system reboots. So I am wondering what options should I select or not select in order to ensure stability? I'm basically tried all the kernel patches with this install. I'm not sure what I should turn off. Any advice appreciated. Thank you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] bmlarson:
What options did you select when you installed (other than default ones) and how long does it work before rebooting? Does the back of your tablet get warm while using this app? I know my tablet has had issues in the past when it gets too hot. You could try making sure your tablet is not in performance mode and see if that helps at all.

I just installed it and it hasn't crashed for me yet, although my tablet did get warm (probably because my tablet is overclocked in performance mode at the moment).
[Asus Transformer TF700] FrostByghte:
I remember the Cross Breeder Optimization Patch with virtually everything else enabled as well. Perhaps I'll go back through and bit a more restrictive on my options. I didn't check the back for heat but I'm running in balanced mode and there kernel is not an OC'd one. If anyone has additional suggestions please let me know. I'll probably wait for 4.5 to try again.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronniereiff:
I don't understand why you didn't post this in the Q&A section or the cromi-x thread it's self.. You would get a lot more feed back.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
After a random reboot, save the file /proc/last_kmsg and post it. It may contain relevant error messages.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Good advice from _that. Also reflash without cross breeder first.
[Asus Transformer TF700] MartyHulskemper:
Great advice -- got it from sbdags bbefoe -- but after most if not all random reboots, somehow, my 700 won't boot into the OS, and hangs at the very first screen with "ASUS" and a lot of smaller white lettering. At that point, I will have to reboot it manually, losing the last_kmsg in the process. Frustrating.
[Asus Transformer TF700] FrostByghte:
The forum software won't allow me to post in the thread :( I do understand that but I don't have permission until I post 10 posts or some such. Once I'm there I will definitely take part and move my questions to the development thread.
[Asus Transformer TF700] FrostByghte:
Thanks for the advice. I'll look at trying this as well. Excellent ROM btw...I'm running the older 3.4.7 on my wife's tf700t. Like night and day speed wise.
[Asus Transformer TF700] ronniereiff:
Ah ic ic
[Asus Transformer TF700] CiaronDarcOne:
data2sd

I also don't have enough street cred to post in the developers forum, so I thought I'd highjack this.

I just wanted to confirm what a few other people have said in the CROMi-X thread. The odex data2sd mod doesn't work. You have to flash the _that data2sd mod over the top to get it going. I've tried a few times to no avail. I tested write speeds and looked in the root and it definitely wasn't happening. The files are there in /system/boot but no-ones home. I don't understand anything about the inner workings so I can't be of much further help.

Awesome rom and kernel though guys. Seriously, love it! :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] FrostByghte:
That's one of the few things that I didn't attempt to load was the data2sd mod. I have a 64gig device so w00t. Looking back now though, if I had it to do over again I would NOT have purchased the TF700t. I really thought it would be a better device. One thing I look for now is 2 gigs of physical memory. My Note 2 simply runs rings around the TF700t. I still haven't had any reason to put a ROM on the Note2. TF700t doesn't even function properly without something like CROMi.