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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sling:
ALL!!!!!!! GS4 owners heck all ATT Android users need to call CS , ATT Facebook post and tweet.....hammer them in social meda

Im not even planing on purchasing GS4 and have already posted my dissatisfaction on their facebook.

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Not true.

The HTC EVO 3D had full lockdown on Sprint & its customers spoke up and unlock was had hmmm well somewhat unlocked.

99% HTC and Sprint facebook page was covered in protest postings for a week and it made a difference.

Both Sprint & HTC caved

here you go - https://www.facebook.com/notes/htc/update-on-bootloaders/10150305151453084

XDA needs to step up sticky this thread , After all open source is what this sites about.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] theraker007:
well lets start spamming AT&T and samsungs facebook pages.. they dont read XDA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshyy_rey:
well i stand corrected, From all my dealings on ATT they could care less. And they are bigger than Sprint, Sprint cant afford to piss off customers, but who knows
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] waston2013:
I would send it back and purchase from TMobile. Stick your ATT SIM card and smile. They willget the message eventually.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
I think T-Mobile uses a micro-sim card. So you will need to get a micro-sim card from AT&T (doable from what I have heard) and have your info transferred to it by AT&T or you could use a sim cutter (I have no experience with them). Of course, that is if the T-Mobile variant is verified to use a micro-sim.

Also, it needs to be verified that the T-Mobile radio (baseband / modem) that is included in the T-Mobile phone works well on AT&T's network. Just because the phone's hardware might have the same frequencies as the AT&T network (LTE and other) doesn't mean that the stock radio (software) has been optimized to use them all.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I just posted on the AT&T facebook :P Totally agree that we should all speak out about this. I have high hopes for Key Lime Pie and maybe they will push an unlock then and this is just an attempt to keep selling the GS3. This phone has no advertising and an encrypted bootloader, I feel like this is just being used as a ploy to sell more Galaxy S3s while they wait for the supposedly new iPhone coming sometime soon I think. Whenever that arrives they will probably pull some crazy ass **** with the Galaxy S4, possibly unlock it and maybe push out a new version of Android. That's obviously in a perfect world though :silly:

Take all that with a grain of salt as I'm not a professional and just a Networking Administrator student XD
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sling:
nah ATT cares , perfect example is pissing contest they are in with T-mobile currently.

I week of negative publicity with users facebook posting they are moving to T-mobile were Android is unlocked will get their attention no doubt.

A week of Samsung facebook postings they've had enough lockdown & going HTC One will grab their attention fast.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
90% certain they were and confused SIM locking (usually temporary on AT&T for "exclusive" devices - which is all devices they sell using AT&T's very broad definition of "exclusive") with bootloader locking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
You're right, I'm sure. I'm just in denial.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
I returned a case today at at&t for my htc one and the guys there said they had alot of s4 returns and or exchanges for the note 2 or htc one over the weekend. Im sure a small few were becuase of the bootloader. Maybe the rest were becuase of the lag and bloat?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MacAlert:
Just posted my thoughts on AT&T's FB page. Not due for an upgrade for another couple of months but I was seriously considering getting the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
If even a small amount of those returns included a "restocking fee", AT&T is still making money. The only way they will care is if people drop them all together as a carrier and spend their money with another carrier.

Of course, if it happens enough, Samsung may take notice of all the AT&T returns.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sling:
lol

Samsung , HTC etc techs live in XDA they know whats up lol

There praying uproar so the suits take off the chains.

Anyway by the look of this thread ATT GS4 owners aren't up to the task of making their voice heard were it matters.

Donation unlock bootloader threads wont solve the long term problem.....its just a temp fix.

EVO 3D potential buyers & owners had petition in action on day one of release , a couple weeks later with Facebook blasting Sprint & HTC made things right.

Sprint no longer requesting bootlodaer lock down and hTC will no longer do so for them
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
Have to admit, IF a couple thousand (every user in the XDA S4 forums including those not on ATT) users would complain about this matter they would notice. As for doing anything? I still doubt it, but someone in the inside could "leak" the info to us after seeing the outcry. Can't say it hasn't happened before...

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshyy_rey:
I still think it's not that big a deal to them. We are a small very vocal minority. My neighbor got a S4 and she could care less, and it'll take those people complaining before they really notice. But maybe they'll join our fight, the lag seems to be an issue the average user is noticing. But It couldn't hurt, everyone spam away lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sameer1807:
well, looks like the gs4 in the us is due to get an update on all its carriers soon (already received on sprint) so lets hope we all complain to att and hopefully, they will throw in an unlockable bootloader in with the carrier update....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sling:
A small minority that can make lots of noise.

Sprint XDA , Android Central members facebook rampage on Sprint & HTC was very effective.

Its funny really , Many Sprint customers posting on facebook had no clue what bootloder lockdown was lol

They learned fast due to XDA member postings and joined in sharing their dissatisfaction with smartphone freedom being taken away.

From there it snowballed with 99% of all posting being unlock boot-loader related for 2 weeks straight , It was crazy josh.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] theraker007:
actually i just visited at&t's facebook page and there are a lot of front page complaints about the bootloader being locked.. people are angryf or sure.. i hope the masses continue.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
Pretty much every T-Mobile phone will work on AT&T. In fact, I've never come across one that hasn't and I'm also pretty sure all the S4 models have micro sims in the US. What else would they have??

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I agree. Every time I've ever seen anyone post about asking a rep about a bootloader unlock, they always confuse it for SIM unlock. You can't take a rep's for anything really. They usually have no idea what they are talking about.

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Same here when I returned the S4 and went back to the One.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] snakecharmer23:
If by some miracle AT&T unlocked the boot loader with an update, wouldn't that mean they get the bounty?

:eek:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
Its att trolling...they planned this from the start..they knew if they locked it there would be bounties so once the bounties are set they will unlock it and take it :P

***sarcasm of course***
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
Will work but not lte speeds, right? I want lte speeds :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
I think some of the newest ones work with LTE now. I'm not entirely sure tho.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bender B. Rodgriguez:
A smart and noble course of action would be like the official unlock tool for the transformer prime.

They should give you the tool and you waive your warranty right then and there. For instance you call att and request the tool for your phone. Each binary handed out will work for only your imei and you officially document that you waive your right to warranty the phone.

Its a win win. We get freedom and they dont eat the costs associated with warranty fraud.

And you guys can thank all the non reading spoonfed nooblets that brick their device and scam the vendor or their carrier for a new phone. I believe warranty fraud is a big factor in the locked bootloader decision.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sam2c:
Calling wont help IMHO. Making them look like jerks on facebook will. Someone can create an online petition on facebook. I got the wag of the finger from non other than Entropy for starting the bounty thread, so i'll give someone else the... eeeehhhhhmmm....honor
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mcmb03:
here's my post on AT&Ts Facebook page.

https://www.facebook.com/ATT/posts/10151575921443909

Hopefully I'll get a response :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jerseymarine:
Love it. I just Liked it. Very nicely put.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
But why is noone mentioning that they will return their device due to this nonsense lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mcmb03:
for me at least, it's because I have faith in our devs here on xda
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sam2c:
I couldnt have said it better myself. You hit the nail on all issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] chriskwarren:
I would have said the same thing, except I would have spelled "losing" correctly. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] waston2013:
I would and will had, if I made the mistake of ordering without research.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] wgoldfarb:
For what it's worth, I know AT&T does pay close attention to posts on Facebook and probably other social media sites as well. Some time ago I posted a complaint on their FB page, and an at&t rep contacted me very quickly to see what they could do about it, and he addressed my problem very fast. I know a locked boot loader is not something a rep can take care of, but the point I am trying to make is that they are paying close attention to fb. If enough of us post a complaint, it may have an impact.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] p51d007:
Well, I should get booted off of at&t's & samsung's FB page soon. I think I hit about a dozen links that had something to do with the G4

telling everyone that if you flash, don't get the G4 LOL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mcmb03:
ah, I knew it looked funny.. too bad I can't edit haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ericos123:
just posted my reply to them

i hope you die in a hellfire at&t
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
Everyone should return their s4 and get a different phone. Screw att and the s4.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
We need more people to complain on their face book page...we need the majority of posts to be about the s4 locked bootloader and us threatening to switch carriers...right now the majority is about bad service or bad customer service...

Spread the word about the locked bootloader, lets get more people involved and everyday repost about locked bootloader until there is an unlock lets get this going and lets not let it die out!

Free the S4 unlock the bootloader!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjk2010:
I was at one of the retailers that had the working model on the floor today as I wait for my S4 to ship. After about 30 mins I realized i wasn't willing to go through the treadmill yet again waiting/hoping for a bootloader unlock via XDA. The phone is swift and thin and has a slightly better feel and build quality then previos generation S series. But overall it wasnt as much as the hype had me hopeful of. ESPECIALLY locked up. I am going to cancel my order in the morning and stick with my Note II fully unlocked for TMO/VZW/SimpleMobile and running at 1800MgHz for the time being. Once the novelty wore off with it in hand I realized I enjoy the huge difference in screen size (which you dont realize by specifications) and in the fact that I am able to toss in any micro-sim by any carrier and have service let alone flash and reflash until Im sick of it.

The S4 is def an amazing device. It DEF has a FAR better build quality and feel in hand also. But once I realized the long road for stable ROMS an unlocked bootloader and other delays; if I were forced to get another phone beside my note II ......? I would get the same phone I bought my wife 3 weeks ago. Nexus 4.

The speed of the S4 is awesome; but in all reality its difficult to appreciate it in real life. My Note II side by side was crisper and swifter in every way . Synthetic benchmarks and raw processing power alone are one thing; but in reality I have and see no way to utilize it any time in the immediate future.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
Crisper and swifter? What? Maybe the Note II I have comparing side by side has a crappy display, because my S4 is beating the Note II display most definitely in sharpness...

But I respect your decision, you should look forward to the Note III or Nexus 5.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjk2010:
Not starting a flame war. Just saying that the S4 has amazing hardware but for the modder and tweaker it may be a while. As far as real world performance side by side? The S4 is no slouch but the difference between the Note 2 as of today is at best equal if not poorer with the bloat that consumes ram. I am Not discrediting the hardware or build quality.... Just the locked up loader and lack of accessibility to mod. Nothing more .

I for one prefer slightly lesser pixel density and a larger display
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RMXO:
I just did my part in stating that I will take all my 3 lines to TMO if they bootloader isn't unlocked by the time my contract is up, which is in 60 days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] buyslake:
Does the T-mobile S4 have the same bands open as the AT&T phone? Are they identical? Will the T-Mobile S4 operate just as fast on the AT&T network as the AT&T S4?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
There are several threads with this information already in them in the AT&T and T-Mobile S4 forums. A simple search should find them. However, it is all still pretty much theoretical until someone actually tries a T-Mobile S4 phone on the AT&T network or an AT&T S4 phone on the T-Mobile network to check and see how real world performance is.

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But you do realize AT&T is going to profit from you regardless of which phone you chose as long as you stay on their network, right? It doesn't matter which phone you buy from them as long as you buy it from them and pay them for their network use. The only way to send them a message is to completely leave AT&T. At the end of the day AT&T will thank you for bringing a phone back, paying a restocking fee, and then buying another phone from them...all while still paying them monthly (or prepaid) charges. Even if they don't charge a restocking fee, they still are not losing anything. If it happens enough, Samsung might take notice, but if they haven't controlled the actions of the US carriers by now, I doubt they will do much about it later.

The only way to send AT&T a message is to bring all of your business elsewhere.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] howtomen:
So ima try to chip in as im a decent sized youtube and i will try to get all of my 12000 subscribers to bang atts fb and twitter on unlocking the bootloader. 12k isnt that many people but should make some noise... Hopefully

sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mcmb03:
I went on their facebook page and liked about 25-30 posts in regards to the locked bootloader... WE NEED MOAR POSTS!!! (I posted a second time referring them to my first post)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I re-posted as well and this time claiming to move to T-Mobile :p I honestly can't though, prior circumstances of returns leaves me stuck now but through Facebook they won't know that hahaha.

Keep threatening and spamming them guys! Teamwork is key :highfive:

We won't have to do this forever.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I posted on their facebook.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Over the top you think? It was supposed to be something short and sweet, but I got a bit carried away. Facebook.

I am tired of corporate companies like AT&T taking over and becoming big brother to their customers. Locking the bootloader on the Galaxy S4 is proof of this. You are the only company that has done this (with the exception of your hero's at Big Red). Way to spit in your paying customers faces. Why is it that you feel the need to lock down development on such a great device? If your company wasn't so slow in releasing updates that Android pushes out, it would not be as big of a deal, mind you, the bloatware that you place on the phone that takes up over half of the memory on it is flat out ridiculous. Stop treating your customers like they are children, stop treating your customers like cash cows that you can do what you want with. I am speaking with my money, I have been a loyal AT&T customer for 10 years, carry 4 lines all with data. I might be a small loss for you, but I am hoping that my small loss and all of the other small losses that you have turn into a wake up call. Please unlock the bootloader, and stop locking them on future devices. I will be leaving this company very soon if I do not see in the headlines in the VERY near future "AT&T releases unlock for bootloader"

I urge anyone else to follow suit, even to those of you that have no interest in this phone. AT&T is trying to take control little by little of what we are allowed to do with our devices that we sign 2 year contracts for that is our COMMITMENT to stay with the company. If I am going to be committed, the least you can do AT&T is to be committed to us, the customers, as well. You will get paid. And you will have happier customers that don't feel USED.

For those with a voice, please use it, stop letting companies that we pay good money to, from having this kind of control over what we purchase. Go to their facebook page, as facebook is not allowing me to link it, let them know that we are tired of being treated so poorly.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] madquack:
Delete.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Darkmx2000:
Wait am I missing something or is the AT&T S4 the only one with a locked bootloader? I thought all of them had a lock bootloader and thought there was already a way to unlock the bootloader on XDA so that you can root the device?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lowandbehold:
Saw a few people asking about this in the thread.

A T-mobile GS4 will work 100% on AT&T for 2G, 3G, 4G and LTE. T-mobile and AT&T use the same frequency for LTE. In the past, T-mobile used the 1700mhz band exclusively. They are in the process of refarming their network to use the 1900 mhz band (which is AT&T 4G). To take advantage of the refarmed areas and provide future proofing for their customers, all T-mobile phones released within the past year and a half have included the 1900 mhz band.

So, if you absolutely must have an unlocked bootloader and can't leave AT&T, that is a good option. Keep in mind, Cyanogen has CM10 booting on a T-mobile GS4 already...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lowspeed:
They also have a chat option online...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Darkmx2000:
Believe me if 120000 people were to ding there Facebook page they would have to do something, honestly I was not aware that AT&T applied a lock bootloader to there device. This is getting ridiculous how they expect all these people to pay $199.99 for a phone on a 2yr contract and then shackle your device so you can't do what you want it :( AT&T this is A BIG FAIL!!! On your part ???

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That is freaking awesome Thank God I got in on T-Mobile ? but I feel bad for all my Fellow Android brethren going through this BS with AT&T and Verizon. I don't know why Samsung would let them get away with this. It's really tarnishing there reputation and I hope they get involved and solve this matter soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] V@no:
Here is a one way loose customers to competition - T-Mobile!

I'm still on 2 year contract, but I'm really considering switching to T-Mo, even before the contract is over.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bryanclane:
I just posted this on the AT&T Facebook page. every word is true and I have the authority to change carriers at will. Keep up the pressure guys.

AT&T,

I have been a loyal customer for 16 years (since I was 14 and paying the bill on my own) and have only had minor complaints about service coverage in the past. I have always bought my phones and accessories from your stores and am one of the few that apparently like you guys.

That being said, the fact that you have decided to lock the boot loader on the S4 is a slap in the face. I have 2 personal lines and 40 lines total for my sales team. I was going to buy everyone the S4 next week until I found out about this issue. After hearing about this problem and the fact that there is less than half of the advertised free space due to bloatware, I think I will look at T-Mobile and take all 42 lines over there in 60 days. The egomania that AT&T has displayed with increasingly taking device storage space for their own apps flies in the face of what a good provider should be.

Please unlock the boot loader immediately. The Android system was not designed to be locked down; if I wanted a closed system, I would buy an iPhone.

I would like to have a response to this posting by someone who can answer truthfully as to why the boot loader was locked in the first place.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Just read and liked that one actually.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Swiftks:
Rooting has nothing to do with the bootloader. And as of now, every S4 variant has root, but the AT&T variant is the only one that has a locked bootloader. Verizon variant is unknown as of yet... However, if they hold with tradition, their device will most likely come locked as well.

A unlocked or "free" bootloader allows for the installation of a custom recovery, and the ability to flash custom ROMs and kernels.

Sent from my SGS III
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HaruSoul:
Noob question here, can we use the T-Mobile version? Will LTE still work?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bryanclane:
Yes. There was a very technical post in one of the locked boot loader threads about how you can use the AT&T radio with the T-Mobile version.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HaruSoul:
Thanks guess I'll just be returning this one and picking up the T-Mobile version since I payed the full retail price to begin with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lanwarrior:
But Tmo phone is SIM locked...how do you use it with AT&T?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bryanclane:
I believe you just use the AT&T SIM card, but don't quote me to that. I am still a noob myself.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MacAlert:
Have it SIM unlocked?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] daraj:
LOOL:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sling:
Well momentum appears to be picking up great job GS4 owners keep at it!

Ive fb posted a few times supporting your cause , The last thing I want to see in September is ATT GN3 lock bootloader
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bryanclane:
I have had 12 likes on my post in just over an hour. Momentum is definitely picking up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DevilDogAK:
AT&T has a Google plus page too.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] msherman123:
How much is the unlocked S4 on T-MO? Sounds like this may be a good option.