yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] spectrumfox:
In case anyone is curious, this OTA does un-root your phone, but you can run MotoChopper on it again to get root back.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Or use OTA root keeper and keep root :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] spectrumfox:
I heard that doesn't work. YMMV.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
Well read through that ota thread once more I recall one or two accounts of it working ..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
It worked for me. I have a feeling the cases in which it didn't work may have been user error...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
Im also waiting on confirmation. The update is avaliable. It was 21mb. Is this just an updated kernel? Thats a small update to fix such a big issue

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
Can someone give me the ota file, easy to see what it does.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ActorMike:
Can't you just freeze services that update with Titanium backup?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] madquack:
damn I already updated but if anyone's trying to pull the ota, (it should be in a zip, correct?)

For people who didn't update:

Download the update but don't install it.. (if rooted)

adb shell

cd /cache

ls -l

exit terminal

adb pull /cache/<blahblah.zip>

At least that's how I've done it before.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
I have it now thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stevehkim:
delete
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
If anyone else wants the update file, I believe this is it.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/an10q5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LLStarks:
Whoa... why does thing have an entire bootchain
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
This! This update is very stealthy. No change log, no announcements or follow ups from AT&T yet. I really do implore people to not risk applying this update until Dan says otherwise. Noticing a lot of people who had an issue with the bootloader lock are updating blindly...

Patience guys come on.....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Scott:
Oh damn, should have looked here first...

I just started a warning thread here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2268946

I will close it and ask mods to merge it....

EDIT: On second thought its not related to the Development of this exploit so I will let it be...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
I have an s4 I can update to see if they unlocked the bootloader or blocked the unlock. So if a tester is needed I can help. I wont be updating my personal s4 but I have access to 2 others I can update.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
How would you test it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hyelton:
Its not unlocked.. Mine still says write protected.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geoldr:
Write protected does not mean bootloader locked this has been mentioned many times.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hyelton:
Then how would I check? I already OTA
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] geoldr:
I don't know. A developer has to test it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Underworld79:
Go into your Settings > About and scroll down. If it says Permissive under SELinux, your bootloader remains locked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Planktron:
You wait for someone like Dan to get his hands on it and tell you everything's going to be OK or you're screwed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
Yes you can Odin back to the original firmware that was originally released. I got curious and wanted to see if they were blacklisting. They're not. I have nothing to lose. I can return this device still. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Scott:
Oh, then were safe! I was just about to test it beings I had nothing better to do...

Thanks Task!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I'll probably Odin back tomorrow if anything but I was loving the smoothness. Although not 100 percent smooth quite yet it was a lot better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
No need to do that if you've already accepted the update. Depending on the OPs method of boot loader unlock, the only thing you might need to do is flash the original firmware in order to unlock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jesa:
I am trying to understand all of this.

What does SELinux have to do with the Bootloader being locked? If that is the case can't we follow the instructions over at http://selinuxproject.org/page/SEAndroid and set SELinuu x to disabled?

Would that unlock the bootloader or at least put us on the path to unlocking it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fosser2:
So you're telling us that no e-fuses will be blown by taking this update?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Nobody knows yet which is what I try to keep telling people. Just because we can roll back doesn't mean something deeper hasn't been set off like a qfuse.

Until Dan gives the OK I extremely implore people to DO NOT UPDATE!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] freebee269:
this is just my thoughts on all this paranoia over the at&t update. at&t left the new kernel with the update to be rootable. also, the aboot in the update is the same as the the original. why would at&t leave the kernel rootable so you can uninstall all of their bloatware if they so worried about locking down the bootloader? also they have no idea on what exploit was used to unlock the bootloader so they'd be wasting time trying to blindly patch it. i honestly dont think this update had anything to do with the bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
a) Please keep the thread on topic, I've already cleaned it up several times.

b) update is safe to take

Yes we do know and it has been said.

No "qfuses" or "efuses" will be blown, they are not being used.

Update is safe.

no, no no no no

Bootloader has absolutely nothing to do with SELinux.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bizal05:
I just got my at&t galaxy s4 two days ago I did the root method and now when i turn it on the first screen says Samsung custom and there is a unlocked "lock" icon..what dies that mean is that bootloader unlocked? Sorry noob question this is my first Samsung phone....HTC man since the NEXUS ONE
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aqua1ung:
I don't suppose this bootloader hack will work with ATT's upcoming 32G version, will it? Guesses?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Sorry for being paranoid but I just couldn't help but question AT&Ts motives and wanted to make sure the least amount of people screw themselves.

If you think it's safe then it's safe but I'm gonna play panzy and still see what Dan thinks, if he even has an opinion on the OTA :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
a) you can roll back

b) aboot is functionally identical

c) the build date (of the update) predates Dan's discovery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Well, I stand massively corrected
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
When you say rollback, you mean odin back to stock right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jhong91:
Motives?

if anything this update has made the phone a bit smoother (in transition animations especially. backing out of apps don't stutter anymore).

Thanks to jcase for clearing up the latest info about the bootloader situation!

(you may remove this post if you deem unnecessary)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Sledutah:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2257058
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] louiscyphere13:
Glad to know the ota is safe, right as I was reading this and going to disable the updater app,..my phone auto rebooted , no remind me later or anything,..just turned off and updated, Damn
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
I would imagine that the only difference between your 32GB pohne and all of the other previous 16GB S4's is the size of the internal memory. I am pretty sure that The system software should be identical.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Aou:
Personally, just seeing that the firmware build date (if truthfully accurate) is April 27th, and Dan didn't publicly mention the bootloader hack until ~May 1st... I seriously doubt that AT&T patched the bootloader in this update. The only way, IMHO, that AT&T would have patched the bootloader is if they have discovered the vulnerability on their own, without even a heads-up that there was such a vulnerability.

Then again, they could have easily spoofed the build date - if they felt like being extra sneaky about it.

My opinion is that the OTA update was just to fix things that AT&T corporate employees found when they first got their hands on the device, and they made a fix for it on April 27th. They've probably just been QC testing it since then to be sure they wanted to send it out the masses. I mean, yah don't just willy-nilly send out an OTA update to all of your customers without testing it first, right?

TL;DR: the build date gives me confidence that this OTA update does not patch the bootloader, unless by accident.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] djrbliss:
OTA safe to install

As jcase has stated, this particular OTA update is safe to install. Numerous users have reported success in using Motochopper to regain root access, the OTA does not affect the bootloader hack, and it's still possible to downgrade via Odin to the previous update in case of emergency.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HaruSoul:
Thanks for the update, will now update. Is there any specific time on when you plan on releasing your hack? Are you going to release it the day Verizon launches? A few days before?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
i think he said when they start shipping i cant remember ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Jack45:
Let's put things into perspective. For discussion's sake, if you're 25 years old you've lived for over 9,000 days. What's another few days here or there? Really.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] spectrumfox:
Thank you! :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] distortedvoice:
It feels like an eternity when you have a brand spanking new device. :highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] 8mileroad:
Same thing happened to me, except it happened when I was asleep and screwed up my alarm clock in the process. Damn near missed the bus! Anyway, it scares me because if Samsung can update my phone at will they can easily patch bootloader and root exploits and possibly even break my phone in the process.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slapdaddy:
They can only force the update because of the OTA update software on the phone. I'm fairly certain devs will not be including this software in any custom ROMs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bigkid001:
just want to say thanks from all of us --we appreciate your efforts
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Thanks Dan, you're incredibly focused and obviously very smart. I seriously wouldn't be able to be focused enough to find some sort of exploit at all, and you did it by yourself I'm assuming which is a great feat.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
Thread cleaned again

This is a development thread

Please keep this on topic

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Moderator
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] drziddo:
Hello people!

Will this work with the exynos version? International?

Sorry if this has been asked before, thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
Really...after a moderator just cleaned out the thread...

The international version and the exynos version does not have the bootloader locked - as of now only att and likely Verizon

Please search before posting
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
Moved to General until some development has been shown. Placeholders are not allowed.

If open development is not being discussed in this thread then it does not belong in development.

It can be moved back when work is being discussed or results are posted

FNM
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
This! A great start towards getting this damned thread cleaned up :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] snakecharmer23:
May 23 ---- Mark your calendar, folks!

The Verizon S4 will be available on May 23.

http://news.verizonwireless.com/news/2013/04/samsung-galaxy-s4.html
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
Well that means it will be shipped within the next 7 days which means the firmware probably wont be changed since they are being packaged right now and that means they could do an OTA which means DONT update and release the unlock....right? WRONG...so don't ask people!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
I'm about to go and do something funny to my phone, which could brick it... just because I can't wait seven freakin days for a proper-boot-unlock.

Just waiting for the incredibly slow download to finish up.

Total Android geek here. :cowboy:

---------- Post added at 05:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 PM ----------

Okay, I'm about fifteen minutes away from one of the following:

a) hard bricking my phone

b) soft bricking my phone

c) restoring my phone from odin

d) AOSP bliss
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
What are you saying and why are you posting it here ? Brick your phone no one cares
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
Guess you won't find out my results then.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
You wont be getting aosp bliss
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stevehkim:
LOL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Oh lord. Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
It's all fun & games :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
LOL....I say you'll get B), than C)...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slapdaddy:
Well are you crying tears of shame onto your bricked S4 yet? Because well...its been 15 minutes. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
Okay fine, I'll tell you guys what I did then.

But yer gonna laugh some more. :D

I ODIN'd the TMO firmware *just to see what would happen*.

I figured there was a sno-balls chance in hell it would give me an unlocked bootloader (I'm not the smartest Android geek, just the dumbest/daring). :good:

It was actually kinda uneventful. It just failed right away.

I rebooted to ATT firmware without any problem.

I didn't even get to fix a soft brick. :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slapdaddy:
I wish it was that easy. Lol.

Sent from my Galaxy S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] apatcas:
OK... so it didnt brick... whats the point of this?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
10 days and counting -

I appologize for adding clutter to an already cluttered Thread - but I am getting so antsy - it is so hard to see the Mods and themes and roms begin to start showing up in the Development thread and not be able to use them. I AM NOT COMPLAINING - Just saying - I have never wanted to flash something so bad before - :)

I don't hold anything against the OP - he has every right to release the Bootloader unlock when he is darn ready - and no doubt that is exactly what he is going to do - and while that day seems like it is so far away, it is still getting closer and closer - or at least I hope it is -

what I don't know is - he said that he would not release the "Unlock" for the bootloader until Verizon released the S4 - but does that mean on Day one - day two or day 20 of the Verizon release? Now Verizon says they have moved up the launch date - just like ATT did - looks like it is going to be on the 23rd I think - just 10 days away ....

Again - the OP can and will make his own decision - and I will be super grateful when that happens - but its worse than a kid waiting for christmas - because the kid knows when Christmas is going to be - lol - and while we sort of know when Verizon is going to release the S4 - that doesn't mean that the Bootloader unlock will be released right away - it may happen that day and I know a lot of people who hope it will - but there is only one person who knows for sure when that will be...whatever happens - and whenever it happens - I am very grateful for his work - because if he hadn't done it - none of ys would be flashing anythihng in 10 days or so -
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sulpher:
You can use the mods now... :silly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
If this was already asked ignore me, did you try the exploit with the latest ota from ATT?

Thanks for your hard work!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stevehkim:
He already stated the ota doesnt mess his exploit.

ATT S4 Rooted. Beastin.

4.2.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iB4STiD:
well, that works out nicely. must have missed that :cyclops:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
If you don't already know, then it's not worth explaining to you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Damn, we waited for awhile to even get the G4, its here now, now we can wait for the fix, think of it as Christmas, it will come, everyone is trying to peek at the present, like one guy said, get to know the friggin phone before you start trying to brick it. Good things come to those who wait.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
while I would love to unlock the bootloader just as much as the next guy, wouldn't be hilarious if OP would start delaying the exploit by a day every time someone asks a stupid question or ETA on here. Wouldn't get it till mid august though :-p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mattdm:
Psh, August? We would never get it! :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I don't know Dan but please, don't give him any ideas lol! Some of us; though hard to believe, don't actually ask dumb questions!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] soraxd:
well idk about 'hilarious', but I think the reason people are 'putting up with it' is because there's actually a good intention behind it (saving Verizon S4 crowd). I think once the Verizon S4 is out, delaying the release of the bootloader would result in some seriously bad PR and probably scar their image as a respectable dev.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
I don't think Dan gives a damn about what we think of him or his bootloader. It's his hack and his to do with as he pleases. If he just up and decided not to release it (which by all means is a possibility depending on which direction things go with verizon), there's no ground where we could say anything. We are getting a free hack with no work on our part. We have absolutely no say or valid opinions on the matter because well, they don't matter hahah

Also don't take that as a harsh post, just pointing out the fact that what we think about this bootloader and release virtually means nothing. :angel:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
Though it would be pretty funny if for every non-relevant post in this thread it gets delayed by an extra day...

Now that would teach people to follow the rules.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
"Putting up with it" or not they have no choice. There's a certain lack of respect for him when people keeping posing garbage like "I'm not complaing, but" crap.... you know you have to wait, just leave well enough alone and wait. Nothing you can do to get it sooner, when it releases it releases. There's been enough devs who've gotten fed up with impatient little kids on xda, let's not get dj bliss to that point. I have massive respect for the dev just in keeping calm, I wouldn't be able to.

Notes: sorry to load this thread with more unneeded posting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lmorel12:
This thread and many others have been interesting to say the least. I wish I was a moderator with plenty of time on my hands and delete most of the dumb posts. I have been working in IT since late 90s. Corporate IT. We are all familiar with the "linux community who gives stuff away for free". Now you get the average end-user who can afford a smartphone (explosion of that in the last 5 years) and you suddenly get the perfect storm: everyone has this feeling of entitlement. Without understanding where the line is and what is acceptable/appropriate to ask and what isn't. It is FREAKIN' amazing that we can go on and on asking the same dumb questions without a hint of common sense and common courtesy for dev's personal lives who do that for FREAKIN' free. Are you guys listening??!?!? You know when you go to the counter to order food at the restaurant and someone is already in line in front of you? You don't cut them off. You know when someone speaks before you, you don't interrupt them. You know when someone tells you "Hey dude, just take this one, I GIVE it to you!", that doesn't mean next time you help yourself without asking first. It's called good manners. My 9 year old has a FREAKIN' PhD in Good Manner compared to some people around here. Plain and simple. There, my 2 FREAKIN' cents

Step 1: It's unsupported

Step 2: It's free

Step 3: That's awesome, thank you guys! - MOVING ON with your life

Step 4: I don't like it, why is it crashing, why do I have to do this or that, why can't I get it now, why, why, WHY??!?! - SEE FREAKIN' STEP 2

Step 5: BUT I want to know why, why, why, WHY??!?! - THEN SEE STEP 1 and work your way down again. You now deserve to be stuck in this loop from hell. Forever. And we sure hope no one will be feeding the troll.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RedIronCrown:
Just a quick thought for the OP: Are there developers you know that are waiting for release of this exploit to begin testing on the AT&T S4? I ask because, while I understand and agree with the reasons for not releasing it "into the wild", it would be great if when you do release it there are ROMs and mods already tested and ready for users to try. In this vein, maybe you can give developers you trust a bit of early access to begin the testing process.

I'm just foreseeing a bunch of beta ROM releases that will have users complaining about issues that require testing and development to fix, maybe giving some developers a head start will preempt some of that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] zelendel:
Boy I could not say this better myself.

Seems to many people are worried about the end outcome and not learning. While I know the OP will release this it would serve alot of people right if only part of it was released and the rest was left up to the user to find and figure out.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
Never mind - thought twice about posting - didn't mean to add to the clutter.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Hoshi101:
I'll be honest, I don't understand the upset on that waiting to release it.

I'm a total noob here, and my knowledge of phones is limited. I still have a crappy Evo 4G (rooted and running cyanogen - updating to AT&T GS4 in a week)....but it seems obvious why he's waiting to release it and it's a good reason. It's hard waiting, sure, but just knowing that there is a bootloader hack in sight means a lot. When I read that the bootloader was locked down, I was rethinking getting the GS4. I am moving somewhere next month where the only ones with half decent coverage are AT&T and Verizon, so I couldn't just use TMO.

Just the fact that someone has put the time and effort into cracking the bootloader and intends to release the crack for free to the masses soon is amazing. Be greatful, people.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] JohnMonsour:
Answer your question... we dont have to worry about that... hopefully the devs will have the unlocked not carrier version of the phone that doesnt have a locked bootloader.... its just a software lock. Thank God its not hardware locked like some motos. Cant wait until its released so we can get some roms going. This phone is plenty big enough for a phablet interface.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blktalon:
If I were Dan I would wait till the VZ phone releases and then put up for auction the first person to unlock their bootloader, then release the hack the following week. The only exception is if the winning person gives it out it immediately releases. The monies could goto the charity of his choice, maybe Boston bombing victims?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
We shouldn't be discussing money over this. It's a hack, not a product...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blktalon:
What's the difference if it's an auction or a bounty. Money is money and of it's a good charity why not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
sell your phones and get the google s4 version :D