yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
truly it wasnt, im sure you can view teh past few pages before the tool was out and see my anguish with people getting pissy about it not being out when they want. ive come to expect the worst from people...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I dont get it. what does this even do for us then...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
allows you to flash custom kernels and recoveries :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
So we cannot flash custom roms? O_o confused.

Anyways this didn't work I pushed it correctly got the success and can only boot into system recovery and it like throws an error message...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
im gathering it circumvents the locked bootloader to be able to flash a recovery and kernels. as dan said this doesn't touch the bootloader and it remains locked. this is a great tool but were still limited. i think this is why adam is still working hard to get us a permanent solution.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
then clearly you didnt read the entire post

and you could already flash custom roms, the bootloader only looks for custom kernels/recoveries
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
i want to know if we can flash radios that you devs package together for us? i assume no from past experience with locked bootloaders.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
It let's us flash custom kernels and recoveries... And therefore, also custom ROMs.

Did anyone actually read the writeup on Dan's blog? It's honestly not that technical... Basically he's described the process of creating a custom aboot that nullifies the signature checking on the kernel and recovery.

I'm sure it'll be worked into a simpler process in the near future, but the salient point once again, is that it defeats signature checking on the kernel/recovery. Hence it opens the device to proper custom development.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
lol at&t users couldn't flash anything until now. :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
yea shouldnt be an issue, just would need someone to make the zips for yall

i give it a week bvefore there is a LOKI friendly app in teh market that you tap to install a recovery

there is more than one way to flash a rom :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Wait, lol I get it.. okay I flashed the recovery thanks for all the help!

So in the way of HTC

this means we are S-On ?

I cant imagine what they wouldn't allow us to do ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SwayProductions:
Im sorry if this is completely out of topic but when I boot my phone rifht under Galaxy S 4 there is an unlocked padlock and says custom right under it, is that from rooting?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] akira02rex:
That means u got hacked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Yellow-Snow:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SwayProductions:
You guys messing with me? Sorry blfor being such a noob lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
its normal to show that. a bit annoying but theres not much that can be done. htc's have that marker to on boot without s-off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SwayProductions:
What does it mean tho? Sorry again
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
it means you voided your warranty and thats what it will show until you odin back to complete stock. its sort of a marker for samsung and at&t to see you modded your device. im sure once we get a permanent bootloader unlock there will be mods to remove that boot message and logo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] peaster3:
Yes, we're messing with you. The unlocked padlock that you see is a result of your rooting the device. It is harmless. However, there is a thread here as well as a video that shows you how to remove that custom unlock symbol and keep your root...but I'm gonna let you search for it.

Asking questions that have been answered in several places is a quick way to get flamed around here. I don't want that to happen to you so I'm offering the friendly advice. If you really can't find it, PM me and I'll point you in the right direction.

As a new member(simply judging from the number of posts, not the date you joined), WELCOME! I hope you enjoy the ride that is XDA! :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SwayProductions:
So its from rooting?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
bingo!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SwayProductions:
Thanks, sorry for all the posts!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
just a FYI if anybody is following adams dev thread he states dans method will be patched fairly quickly. maybe im wrong but it sounded like adam may have some sort of solution coming, i dunno. :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Even if it's patched.... Why couldnt we just odin back to factory and then apply this method? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
nah, just that he knows it will be patched :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] flinttownbrown:
+1

Sometimes I wish this place was reddit...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Shammyh:
Thankfully, it's not.

I do miss the good old days though... When very few people outside the dev community even knew about Xda. Now it's just full of entitled brats with no patience and an expectation that every little thing will be spoon fed to them.

That and no one can seem to follow the rules, which used to be important.

That's just the way these things go I guess...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sholsten:
I'm still as lost as a pig in a chicken pen. I wish I could sell this piece of crap to buy a 9500 or 9505
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] greenzone560:
Just wait for a little bit...jeez. wait like a week and you will be fine.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Even if it does get patched, how hard is it to odin back to factory firmware and reapply exploit? These little girls were expecting dan to make a one click tool that was retard proof for them and are just upset they need to run a few lines of code im ADB. (which has been provided for them)

Im far from being knowledgeable in this stuff yet i was able to acheive root, and push twrp all thru osx terminal

Sorry the devs didnt spoonfeed all of you kids
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
i fear there isnt enough thanks to go this post. so ive gone back through your posting history and thanks some irrelevant posts :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Just want to make clear as what beans is pointing out, there is a

VERY big difference

between unlocking the bootloader and what Dan has released (Dan has admitted this himself). This Bounty is for something specific and if it doesn't meet the criteria then we are still waiting. See below:

Without an unlocked bootloader we will never be able to flash kernels, recoveries, and custom ROMs in ODIN just like they work for the T-Mobile and Sprint models.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
But honestly do we HAVE to ? No. We Don't so what if its a userland exploit or whatever you wanna call it. It gets the job done and surely holds us over till the bootloader unlock comes out; IF

This makes it a tiny bit more tedious for rom developers but its not that hard so everyone relax.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
i imagine tehre will be an app made soon to interface3 with loki_flash, im working on adding in postrecoveryexit.sh for oudhs recovery so any kernel you flash checks teh kernel you flashed, if it is good then it leaves it alone, if it needs to be loki patched it patches and then applies it to the correct spot :)

thus leaving the rom/kenrel devs one less step for releasing stuff for att/can users :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
If you think from a developer's perspective, why would they want to do extra work for AT&T and Verizon variants? They already have working projects that are all set and done and ready for publishing but now it requires more work and learning a new method just to get them working on these two models? The support for these devices will be far lower that the rest until the bootloader can be unlock. Sure these will hold us over till then and of course we highly appreciate the work that Dan has put in for us. but my point is we donated for one thing, and go something else. All I'm saying is we should not treat it as a full bootloader unlock until it actually is.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Well there are a lot of people who don't really understand the difference, I understand what you're saying as I can see the extra "leg work" needed to develop roms for us, but there might be shortcuts that allow you to one-click patch roms for loki in the future.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
And that USERS, is one way our DEVELOPMENT team works together to overcome any issue that may come with the device and or software, to stride torwards a user friendly, forum that is ripe with development from multiple developers looking to better our device.

So when they release something that allows debelopment to actually begin for our devices, dont make childish comments torwards that developer or tool that he took time for to better your device. You may not understand what it does or how it works, thats fine, you dont need to, give it more than 45 minutes. There will be another tool, an add-on to what Dan did to assist you into using it correctly. Be patient, and keep the negative comments to yourself because if anyone has anything negative to say, most likely you dont understand it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
Some people cant even read the title of this thread. The bounty is for an unlocked bootloader, nothing else :)

Not demeaning what Mr. Dan has done by any means.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
My exact point! Thank you for simplifying the explanation sir. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Just it of curiosity, is there more your able to do with an unlocked bootloader rather than an exploited one?

besides void your warranty?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
Not much I'm assuming but hasnt this thread gotten way off topic?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sholsten:
Well this little girl doesn't understand coding enough to try and not brick a high dollar phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
The bootloader is still locked sir, move on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Anyways, quite simply no.

There's nothing more you can do it's just easier to work with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] djrbliss:
In case you missed it, I requested all donations be directed at a reputable charity organization. If you want to refrain from doing so because the tools that were given to you for free don't match your arbitrary expectations that you made up after the fact, it doesn't matter much to me. Feel free to keep holding out for magic wands that make all your Galaxy S4 dreams come true. You may be waiting awhile.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Developers will be able to publish their ROMs/kernels/recoveries without any extra effort when they have made for the rest of the devices (meaning quicker releases and updates)

You will be able to easily flash all kernels, recoveries, prerooted ROM, etc just simply using ODIN (like T-Mobile and Sprint does already)

Apps that require unlocked bootloader (like MobileODIN) will actually work and not brick your device by accidentally running them

Easily able to flash back an unlocked bootloader after any OTA (as long as you have root)

Many other more technical things that will make lives easier for developers (the bread and butter of our community)

The idea is simple, you tell developers there's more work involved or they have to modify their work just to get something on this device compared to the rest? Less likely they will support it as often as the rest. Exceptions as always but that's the main idea, especially from what I've seen the past. Motorola devices are a great example of this issue (up until they were unlocked recently of course). We came here to make our devices works like the rest of the models (international model, Sprint model, T-Mobile model, etc...). If we haven't achieved that, the work isn't done. Of course one person cannot do EVERYTHING so maybe someone else will just have to step-in and fill in the blanks here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
I disagree. Its the same with HTC devices. There's so much more you can do with s-off compared to just using HTC dev to unlock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] BeansTown106:
thank you..

whatever.. im out of line apparently because i agreed with some peoples comments and told the truth.. and hasnt secure boot been hacked in the past? did adam and ralekdev not unlock the vzw note 2 not one but 3 times..? never knew throwing out some incentive was a crime..

me either.. and i agree

im not knocking your work at all i think it is amaazing that this has been done, im was more or less just agreeing with other commenters and you urself have said this isnt unlocking tho bootloader so whats the point in everyone bashing?, im not bashing you in the least bit i appreciate all your work.. **** if people take my insight so wrong ill take my 50$ i said id spend and send it to the one fund in boston and the fund in oklahoma with your name on it..

i guess the bottom line here is like you have said in the past vote with your wallets and not expect and hope for developers to unlock things etc.. if only sprint and tmobile service wasnt so awful here..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eighty1:
Was about to recommend this as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] atsim:
I'm in for $50 through pay pal
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
Very good Idea! Keep a progressive list of members with add/total on the first post. i.e. : As of 4/30/13 10:00 am EST/ list of members with their pledge/ and the total purse.

Anyways, Put me down for $50 via Pay Pal for the succesfull unlocking of the bootloader of the AT&T S4. I wanted to add "Dead or Alive", but it makes no sense...

Good luck guys!

EDIT

If I'm not mistaken the purse is up to

$585

as of this post.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
Plus 10 Paypal to the dev who unlocks the device.

Edit: So total is now $595?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LongDuckDong:
I'm in for $25
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
I want to chip in but I dont see myself here long. Can I put a date condition on my donation? :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
$620 with LongDuckDong $25

Next pledges: From now on when pledging add on.:good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LongDuckDong:
I think it's fair to say that if you no longer have the device then theres no reason to pay the bounty. Unless of course you're a person with integrity and patience. You'd pay it if that were the case haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] switters1:
I'm in for $20.

So, $640 total
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
I pledged $50 originally - and I will match your $50 bonus if the bootloader is unlocked for our phones within 1 week from today (5/7/2013)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
So we got $640 and a side line of $100 good thru 5/7.

Edit: I will also match that bonus. So it's $640 with side line of $150 good thru 5/7.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slapdaddy:
This thread should be stickied so its right there at the top of the page where everybody can see it.

Sent from my HTC Vivid.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AutoUnion:
Wow, this is impressive!

- sent from Galaxy Note 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stuckmoto:
I'll get mine in a couple of weeks so put me in for $20 via PayPal.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] nlghtcrawler:
I never really do these but I would really would like to keep this phone, put me in for $10

Edit: if it isn't unlocked by 5/3 I'll be returning this s4 for a T-Mobile s4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lowspeed:
20 + 20 Thru 5/7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eroracing:
I'm in for $25...... Mine is out for delivery today! Good to all the devs working on this!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
Why do you need a bounty thread when adam is already looking into this? From what im hearing this bootloader is locked harder than what verizon did with the s3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] JCreazy:
Because developers still deserve compensation for their work whether they expect any or not.

Sent from my HTC Inspire 4G.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
A little incentive never hurts ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
As far as I know and I do know since I've owned over 6 different HTC devices, S off just made flashing a little more difficult as in you had to flash kernels in the system recovery then you could flash the rom in like CWM or whatever other recovery you used.

Maybe when the google and developer edition S4 is out , we will have our unlocked bootloader. But till now, I'm happy with this.

I can see an unlock if something gets leaked out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Okay yes but,

This Is the S4, theres devs that have been lurking and waiting for something like this to come out so they can post their work.

Theres hoops to be jumped in every phone. Go ask the LGOG guys. Twrp was up within minutes of Dan releasing his exploit. Compiled with Loki, i dont see it being that much of a hoop, but then again im no dev so im only speculating at this point.

Maybe one of you devs could chime in and let us know how difficult it actually is to use this exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] BeansTown106:
is there a writeup on how to take a stock kernel that has been modified and make it lok compatible? it looks ok in here but the verizon threads are a mess everyones getting a wrong aboot error etc, the only way i could actually get it to work was with using goo manager and installing twrp that way that was arleady lok modified.. and im not a noob with adb either so count that out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Naddict:
Thread Cleaned

With respect to the developer trying to accomplish a task here, and with respect to XDA posting rules. It is now time to stick to the topic and stop with the childish banter and "one-upping" each other in worthless commentary.

I do not care if you are a junior member, senior member or a member with recognition, be respectful in your posts, be on topic with your posts, and always remember we are here to further development.

If you cannot do that, then go somewhere else where opinions matter. This is not the place for that.

I have marked this thread as a favorite and will be ghosting it for a while, consider this a final warning -- post troll commentary at your own peril from here on out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LLStarks:
An edict from Naddict.

So silly that we are arguing over when/if to send money to charity.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
i believe adam is still working on a 'bootloader unlock" method.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
As to converting a kernel into a lok compatible one, no clue but pushing a recovery with lok is very, very easy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] droidpolice:
Im in the bounty where do I send money to Boston or oklahoma.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
I've never laughed so hard! I'm on the same boat with you.

The few things I know is from stepping in the forums a few minutes every day and pick up a few tips here and there. I wish I could invest more time here, learn more and contribute with something else than money (which I do very often and very generously).

So, my friend sholsten, all we have left is to wait and wonder until they come up with something that is more on our "pay grade" level...lol!

Give it a few weeks, they'll crack it and put out something we can understand and execute.

For now root works well and Tibu takes the trash out pretty well. It works for me, anything else is gravy.

---------- Post added at 08:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:56 PM ----------

Dude you rock! You da man!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
Yea Dan wrote a whole page of instructions. And then compiled the tools because some well know "devs" apparently couldn't be bothered to make them. So now everything is a breeze and about making it. As i stated I'm making oudhs recovery auto loki images so then people who compile code don't have to bother with 1 extra line in terminal.

If im feeling generous I'll reopen the att thread and update yall. But i personally am sick this subforum. I don't think I've ever been so offended by attitudes of users in the development forums. I would say tmobile and sprint people are just happier in nature cuz of their bootloaders. But the verizon forums are fine and forming a community.... I feel bad for the Canadians...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
So has everyone paid their bounty to Dan?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
This is not above any pay grades. This is really easy to do actually. Download Goomanager from the Play Store, open it, hit menu, install openrecovery script. Boom, you're done. Reboot recovery, make nandroid backup, profit. You can now flash ANYTHING that has been Loki'd for this device.

Edit: Please make sure you are rooted before attempting any of the steps. That is the first step to unlocking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] scott14719:
You might want to make sure the Nandroid (TWRP) restores OK first. I'm sure it probably will, and it should, but I haven't seen confirmation yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
Get out! Really?

Thanx man!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
I backed one up, and restored one last night. It does make it in multi partitions on my External SD because it is over the FAT32 Limit of 4GB, but that doesn't cause any issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sd_N:
Twrp worked for me. I restored my stock back up 3 times. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
I followed the steps, however when I hit reboot recovery the phone does reboot but it goes to Android system recovery 3e. There is no back up option.

Any help will be appreciated.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
Silly question, but youre rooted right? You should be rebooting into TWRP
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
That is a good question. I forgot to say that. I will add it to my original.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
Lol..is aight nothing is too silly. Yes I am rooted.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
Have you changed anything on the build.prop? It is saying it is the ATT S4 Recovery right? Also you have to wait the 10 seconds for it to download and watch the toast messages at the bottom. They wil tell you if it was successful or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
I went ahead and hit again "Install OpenRevoveryScript"... After it "installed" I rebooted and landed on twerp... Yes !

Thanx again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] thacounty:
Thanks a lot bro!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] manny05:
Wait.. So that's all we do? We don't type any commands or anything? It can't be that easy lol.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sabre31:
If you guys want a phone that is truly unlocked and development supported you would steer very clear of any Samsung or other oem phone unless it is a developer edition or nexus. When you buy these phones your mind set should be that you will be stock on stock rom for ever. Trust me these vendors are going to make it harder and harder and with a signed bootloader it is very hard to hack a 2048 bit cert unless somebody from the vendor leaks the unlocked bootloader you will be waiting a long time or never to get an unlock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
But then wheres the fun in that? Challenge is good.

Oh trust me I adore nexus :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] manny05:
Wow. Thanks guys. It was really that easy! What a relief now I can flash ktoonsez kernel :D

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S4