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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] darthmalus:
Crazy idea but would erasing every bit of software on the phone if possible, and loading the non boot loader locked software work at all or would something like that be to complicated and or impossible to do ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LZLandingZone:
I have never seen someone so thick headed before. It's pretty ignorant of you to not take into account technical specifications as fact. "You're just wrong". What's wrong? Can't come up with any concise evidence as to why? And the S4 WAS a flagship device, not IS a flagship device. And a Nexus can compare at half the price. You think all the Air Gesture features are cool and work well? That they aren't gimmicky? Okay then, fair enough. You can't flat out say someone is wrong and that they're entitled to an opinion without backup up any information, but I wouldn't expect that from someone who sounds like they're fourteen years old.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] azuziel:
actually im 35, but that isnt the point. you're the one who came out swinging. now begone.

Sent from my SGH-I337M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LZLandingZone:
You're 35? Even sadder. I'm not the one who "came out swinging". I just corrected your mistakes for you. But enjoy your super awesome Galaxy S4!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] azuziel:
yeah, you should go back and reread there sparkplug. what i said was true, go pull up some hardware comparisons and read yourself. You can read, that much is clear. it's the comprehension level that's questionable. I could give a hoot what you think high schooler. Go away. Get bent. That is all.

Sent from my SGH-I337M
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] BeansTown106:
Do u wanna keep these tallied up or should I do it? I know the Verizon folks will be doing donating a lot as well

I can make a dual thread for art and vzw
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
Two big reasons why -

1) to give a reward for the work that these fine developers are doing out of the goodness of their hearts. If you are going to take advantage of an unlocked bootloader - offering a reward those responsible for doing the work - is that too much to ask? Personally, I try to donate when I can - this project seems like the most worthy one I could possibly support with a donation - that is why I pledged. Why wouldn't you want to? (I am not saying you have to - and some may not be able to afford to - but to those who will use it - and who can afford to - I think it is a worthy cause)

2) to give incentives to work even harder (if that is even possible) money talks and BS walks...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
So far $715 straight up / $170 side good thru 5/7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] irl9000:
Why are you still here??? You've stated very clearly numerous times that you moved onto the One. Why come here with questions and opinions not related to you?? Why question rewarding hard working devs?? These are rethorical so don't answer just move on buddy :)

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ImSteevin:
50 Here, easy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RMXO:
put me down for $20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] azz72:
Im good for $20
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] aleph_0:
Broke as I am, I'll throw $15.

Please correct me if I'm wrong:

Total: $785 + $170 contingent upon completion by 5/7
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
I have $820 + $170 by 5/7. Maybe I'm wrong, but we are not to off. Anyways, we are all good people; I know everyone will come thru.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] blktalon:
I'm in for 50.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
I'll throw in $10.

Can the OP or one of the first 5 posters please tally up the users names and how much they want to donate to show our support?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ogxku5h:
In for $10. Unleash this S4 beast :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sam2c:
If you're up to the tasks, I'd be very grateful. Paleman27 seems to be keeping track as well. I was thinking we should make a googledoc spread sheet so that people can just edit it themselves with their name and donation amount. What do you think?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Sounds great but instead just get someone to head the document and setup a public email for people to pledge amounts too and organize it that way. People can just post here then as reference to what they pledged in.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sam2c:
We could do that too. The good thing about googledoc would be that it takes the middleman out. As long as people keep it civil and not ruin the doc, it will work great. Someone whos been through a bounty could shed more light on this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Entropy512:
It also serves to fragment the effort by turning it into a race/pissing contest/competition.

Starting this bounty is probably the worst thing you could have done in terms of actually achieving results.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
Maybe becuase im interested in seeing if this gets unlocked?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eroracing:
I would disagree..... Devs are already working on the unlock so this will only serve as a reward! Now giving a bonus for faster unlock may cause the situation you speak of! Either way we should all have the same goal in mind (to unlock the bootloader)! To me donating is just the way for an average Joe like myself..... To contribute to Xda and the open source of android! Just my $. 02......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] paleman27:
$890 + $170 thru 5/7

At this pace it should be a cool grand by midnight...

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I agree. This is the only way I can contribute (donating). I couldn't write a script for the live of me.

I love the work that is done here!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
Total $890? Isn't that enough (For one device)?

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LZLandingZone:
So let's look at specs.

Nexus 5: Qualcomm Snapdragon 800, at 2260 MHz, Krait 400.

Galaxy S4: Qualcomm Snapdragon 600, at 1900 MHz, Krait 300

So is the S4 better in terms of processing? Nope.

Graphics!

Nexus 5: Adreno 330

Galaxy S4: Adreno 320

Hmm. Wonder who has the edge here?

RAM!

Both are the exact same. So it doesn't really matter here.

Now if you want to nitpick with features we can, but as for your "better hardware", I think the actual facts are presented here. Enjoy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] azuziel:
The nexus 5 was released 6 months after the s4, the *slight* edge in processor speed pretty self explanatory. But as we all know, processor isn't the be all and end all. All about i/o (but I supposed you'll argue that too) the s5i s vastly superior to the nexus 5, why? Because GALAXY is their flagship device, not nexus. Again, why do you think that is? Or do you really think, honestly, that you can spend half the money and end up with a superior product? Cause if so, I have some great real estate you'll want to look at. s4 has a better camera, expandable storage, and a slew of other features yes. I found my s4 performed much better than the nexus5, that's why I returned it.

I suppose I should have been more clear, galaxy is better than nexus. That better? Now argue it away. I care not anymore. I told you I was done with you, and I am. Had you have simply responded with an honest question or legitimate comment we could have probably had a good time comparing stats and device performance benchmarks. But you didn't, so we're not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] xxtoxicravenxx:
If u dont care why do you keep responding >.>
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Ok so last time i checked this was a "bounty" not a battle of better devices, just saying guys so lets all remeber we are here to support and show the devs we care about there countless hours of work by offering to help with $$ lol so let try to leave it at that guys :) support and $$ please

Using:AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
Good point.

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Open request: Can anyone "in the know" throw out a bone on the basic situation and outlook. I'm not asking for details or rushing anyone for a "version update" -- just a word or two. I'm all for chipping in - heck, that's why I opened a Pay Pal account. This situation seems really murky. Answers don't just grow on trees but trees do grow at the ball park. It seems like there's a little dismay and disallusion coming through here what with all the off topic rants and skirmishes I'm reading..

I'm just trying to get my bearings. Thanks...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] waiters:
I'm about to get a friends sgs4 att.. I see this thread was started last year.. There is still no way of unlocking the bootloader?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Maribou:
At this point in time, the bl is still locked down. All MK2 users can do is install safestrap, and flash touch wiz Roms. Could be worse...:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
Thanks...

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Thanks...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
To answer your question you can search the threads for "if we are serious about unlocking the bootloader" and read the devs progress, not much news recently but if you have any ideas it might help, they are working hard but security is tight and they have been doing trial and error, but they get closer everyday, wish i had the know how to help, i have time out the wazzoo at the moment lol

EDIT: changed the thread to search for lol

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
Thanks a lot--I appreciate the heads up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Just a thought but what would AT&T Verizon and samsung do if everyone of us on here joined together and made this a "legal" issue, we paid for the device, it is ours to do as we please, a waranty is offered but most of us here at xda dont really care about warranty, for years PC's allowed us to change OS and gave us administrative permissions out of box, and now it seems that is not our choice, legally android is a moddable system design for the user, for ppl like us who demand to be able to use our expensive phones to there fullest capability, so legally wouldnt they have to release somthing to change this? Although i did read that the government approved KNOX and the other security features... :( idk anymore man... i just really miss cyanogen mod... wish i never broke my gs3 :\

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Surge1223:
Here I'll make it easier for everyone. For what we're trying and updates you can check here. Try to limit your posts to relevant info/ideas and pm me and/or other devs if you have any helpful info/docs/files. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Surge1223: OK! I need another dev aboot from either OYUEMK2, or OYUEMJ7! Apparently I didn't have the right one before so I only have the two that Sketch provided. I need two copies from the same version. So if you know anyone that has a dev s4 ask them to do this for you or direct them here. Ill update this post when someone posts or pms me another aboot. Progress unfortunately will be stalled until then.

adb shell

su

dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/aboot of=/sdcard/devaboot.mbn

Ok so yea that was Surge1223 last post on the bootloader until this can be done help him out if you can guys

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mmcneil:
For what it's worth, I'm down to throw in $100 on the bounty to get this thing unlocked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
Wow, for that much you could just sell your current phone on eBay, then use those funds plus your $100 to buy a used Google Play Edition or Developers edition of the S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ali87va:
I'll throw in about $250, I know the work that goes into this and I know we can't push the devs anymore as much as we want to. I'd rather stay on this beast than to go through the process of buying a new phone. I wanna also thank everyone for the previous unlocks they've done and if anyone needs me to do anything, let me know!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Been getting a notification to download OTA wonder if i should r not any advise? Or should we treat this as apple and try to avoid making things harder for the devs and our selves?

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jd1639:
If you take it you'll lose root and ss. There's no root or ss atm for 4.4.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Figured that any recomended way to stop it, everytime i connect to wifi it downloads and i dont even want it on the phone lol

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ITNV:
I used the App Quarantine app from the Play Store to quarantine the AT&T Software Update. Haven't even received the notice about the the upgrade :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Nice lol thanks

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ali87va:
Signed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mobivme:
46

46 signatures needed..? what happens next?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MegaGalan:
Signed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] pendragon11:
Signed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TurtIe:
Signed!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ALD3:
Signed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LiLPurP:
Wow i see alot of you guy signing lol thats cool and all and its worth a shot but remeber that its unlikely that it get results, so font forget about the hard working devs working on this, they deserve alot more than a bounty if they figure this out, from my reading and pokeing around quietly has shown me that this bootloader is infact state of the art security tight and its very complex, so thank ppl like [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] & others trying to unlock this thing for the average consumer

Using: AT&T Samsung GS4 4.3 MK2 Rooted with SafeStrap Recovery

PETITION: http://www.change.org/petitions/samsung-usa-at-t-unlock-the-bootloader-of-the-galaxy-s4-sgh-i337-2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I don't mean to be a negative cloud, but it is very unlikely that AT&T will unlock the bootloader just because someone started a petition

It would take way more than that for a hundred billion dollar company to even consider unlocking a bootloader for an S4. We should support and rely fully on the hard working developers here at XDA to get the job done
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] waiters:
I agree... Att won't help.. Developers will..

I'll put 100 in the bounty.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] failedjedi:
ATT will with enough pressure. A petition with some names isn't enough. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Customers need to make a huge stink about this. Take to twitter, facebook, email them, call them, make it so it's all ATT hears about for days/weeks. Find middle management people, executive contact information, email any att employee you can find.

The problem is, sadly there just isn't enough customers that actually care to make a big enough stink. Which wouldn't matter if we were loud enough, but no one is actually doing anything. Signing a petition that ATT (at least anyone who matters at ATT) will never see isn't doing anything. Emails for the members of the executive are out there, email them. Someone organize something. If the whole executive team starts getting all these emails at the same time it matters more than just one here and there. Flood their social media all at once about it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CoNsPiRiSiZe:
I will donate my whole paycheck the week we get a unlocked bootloader... granted its only about $150 each week... it is certainly worth being able to run CyanogenMod on our phones!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
That is exactly my point. There is just not that big of demand to actually get this going

That's why we need to continue to support our Devs here. We have a way higher chance of actually getting something done at XDA versus AT&T
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mapobean:
straight to the top

http://www.att.com/gen/investor-relations?pid=5609

here it is lets give it a try i have emailed each individual share holder, maybe if their stock can be effected by losing customers we may have a glimmer of hope. I personally am not going to purchase another phone through ATT. We may get them at a discounted cost when our 2 yr contract expires but they soak up all the costs through BS misc fees so we end up paying full retail regardless. Save your money and pay the extra to buy a phone from the manufacture. I am about to switch to Tmobile due to the ATT debacle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] failedjedi:
So here's an idea. On april fools day, we get as many people as we can to praise ATT on twitter and facebook and use #aprilfools. Fake praise, april fools we really hate you kind of message. It could get some mainstream attraction because not every one has to complain about the bootloader, just some people, and even a little traction will get it news coverage becuase it's a gimmicky stupid viral prank and that's what the news loves for some reason. But if it gets decent coverage, mass joking about how much the users hate ATT will effect stock, which will make them look at some of these complaints more seriously. It's always funny to say people hate ATT, or Time Warner, or bank of america, blah blah blah as a running joke, but also serious. But a coordinated we really do hate you campaign will effect stock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
I want an unlocked bootloader just as much as anyone else. But you have to be realistic about something like this. The demand for an unlocked bootloader is not overwhelming enough, and won't be.

It will not happen through AT&T. When you look at the numbers, the amount of people that wish for unlocked bootloaders doesn't compare to the rest of the regular customers that have no interest of knowledge of XDA or any of that

Support the devs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
OPEN QUESTIONS:

1. Why did AT&T "really" lock the BL?

2. Is it just an AT&T issue?

3. Did [MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] really crack it?

4. Isn't it true, that if he could, there are many--at least as skillfull--as him?

5. Which leads to--is this simply a technical problem?

Point is, if one has the answers to these questions they could make an informed decision as to what to do practically speaking (define that for yourself) and financially (i.e. avoid AT&T or not). I am quite simple, but I do not understand why the vast majority of S4 owners are not restricted in this way.

Finally, I agree with what many have alluded to: ONLY money talks! not as a bounty, but to AT&T--they know all about "xda" and what the response would be so, this is not directed at the average user that know "root" as the bottom part of plants or bootloader as something to do with hiking.

EDIT: I find it very "Mr.Potter"-like that--in my opinion the majority of the very innovations that are now incorporated in todays retail models were obtained--practically for free--from the very site "xda" and people that are now being intentionally locked out!

You are now leaving Bedford Falls and are entering Potterville!

EDIT: This doesn't mean I'm not in--of course I'm in...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] foopy:
Ref Bootloader unlock

I have been following this thread for a while and decided I would share my recent experience with AT&T regarding this matter but first a little background info:

In May of 2013 I ordered an AT&T Galaxy S4 factory unlocked from a web store and paid $726.31 for it shipping included. Now before I get flamed for that alone I now realize I should have bought a developer model, but it’s too late now. I got what I got.

Since the release of 4.3 I have been unhappy with the tighter security employed by Samsung/AT&T including locked bootloader, Knox, and SELinux set to enforcing mode. I have complained to Samsung and AT&T several times regarding this and both have basically said too bad. I have emailed a number of AT&T executives including Ralph De La Vega whom I have not even gotten a response from BTW. Yesterday, March 5, 2014 I received an email from Janee Jackson who works for Mr. Stephenson, the CEO of AT&T, not just the wireless division but the parent company. This is the response I got from her word for word:

[FONT=Times New Roman]Mr.[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman] XXXXXXXX[/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman],[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman]Mr. Stephenson is in receipt of your email and has asked that I contact you to try and address your concerns. Unfortunately, we cannot unlock the bootloader on your device.
[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman]AT&T does not support unlocking the bootloader and doing so is a violation of the terms of service. [/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman]Thank you, [/FONT]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman]Janee Jackson[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Times New Roman]AT&T Office of the President[/FONT][/COLOR]

I have been told the same thing by everyone I have talked to from AT&T.

So here’s my two cents. AT&T is not going to unlock these bootloaders period. The only way we consumers could get that accomplished is to have millions of customers complaining about it and that just isn’t going to happen. Same thing with Samsung. There’s just way too few of us complaining about it to get anything done about it. My advice is to vote with your wallets. Buy something other than Samsung and if possible use another service beside AT&T. If their sales and customer base diminishes enough they will then listen to us but I doubt that will ever happen considering how popular the Galaxy series of phones are.

If you want her email address PM me and I'll give it to you, but please be patient as I'm not on here but a few times a day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ali87va:
Gotta keep hope up guys. All the devs are kinda tight lipped when it comes to if they've had success or not. The way I see it,we always get surprised....maybe they're waiting till all gs4s on all the carriers have updated to kit kat? Maybe they have found an exploit but are thinking what if they get re locked after the next OTA? Gotta think positive guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
We need a Meseeks! Who's got the box?