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[Nexus 4 General] chrisgtl:
I like the new hangout app that replaces talk. I used titanium backup to uninstall talk app and then use play store to search for hangout, install, register phone number and enjoy!

Works well :)
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Here's a good article about why it's kind of good that Google didn't announce a new Android version yet:

http://androidandme.com/2013/05/opi...g-android-is-the-biggest-news-out-of-io-2013/
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
+1 exactly. What we got is basically a whole new set of Gapps without adding another version of android to further separate devices, these were all apps that can be upgraded like any other app. I don't understand why all crying that no new actual version came out.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Samsung is getting ready their own closed sourced OS to roll out later this year.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] Semantics:
I can see it now. Random 4th Gen Galaxy S owner: Wait, what? My 4 years of investment into the Android ecosystem are gone? I can't use any of my Android apps anymore? Yeah, that's going to be a boon for Samsung. Android saved Samsung, they think they are Apple now.
[Nexus 4 General] Neefy:
I thought the new Google Now (always there, "OK GOOGLE") sounded cool though. Future here I come! OK GOOGLE, start Guild Wars 2
[Nexus 4 General] threeclaws:
You mean bada? Or tizen? (Both Open Sourced)

Or is Samsung trying to prop up a third one?
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
Probably meant Tizen, but I dont see that taking off like Android did.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
from what i understand Tizen is loosely based off android and is compatible with most of androids apps already. plus with a TW overlay users wont even be able to tell the difference
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
Yeah the little I have read about it, that's what I gather too. Honestly I don't see the point in the OS myself since it will do everything that Android does and you cant get any more open than droid. So my guess is it will be more closed which is a turn off to most developers.
[Nexus 4 General] aooga:
This can actually be a good thing! Think of it this way.

For all the people without a nexus phone, which is the majority of people who own android phones, its great. This means that they can catch up and update their phones to 4.2.2 before another version of android comes out. This makes sense to me. It was something that I hoped that Google would start doing. Even the htc one is still on 4.1.2. this will give them a chance to update it before 4.3 or 5.0 comes out and makes the users already behind.
[Nexus 4 General] statecowboy:
On the Google S4...

:p
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Tizen and it started open source but they closed it.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
This..what good would a messaging app like Imessage do anything if only nexus owners could download it because of the version it would be pointless at first I was sad now I understand
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
GAPPS have been updated via the store for ages, nothing new.
[Nexus 4 General] khanhtrinh:
No Android update = no wifi notification fix :mad:

Gửi từ Nexus 4 của tôi
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
I must be the only one without the Wi-Fi problem...
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Your not alone. I have no issues with updates while on wi-fi.
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Yep, I was wrong :D

I'm amazed Samsung will have wanted this, it doesn't make sense. They don't want people to have Android phones, they want people to have Samsung phones. That's why they replace everything with a god-awful version of it all cartoony and Touchwiz'd. This phone goes against all that.

Also they're only going to sell about 5 of them, given the pice :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
You know they'll sell a shed load of them...it's another revenue stream for Samsung/Google

The post from the HTC employee was interesting as I take it to mean they're doing a stock version - or the next Nexus (or neither of course, I'm just speculating)
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
OK 5 was a bit of an understatement, but I can't see it being shed loads when it costs double what the N4 does, and it's bound to be possible to load up a 'normal' S4 with the AOSP version's software.

I agree about the HTC comment though, and hopefully it's something all (or at least a lot of) manufacturers will be doing in future.
[Nexus 4 General] d4c:
What if the s4 Google edition is the x phone? Shock horror...
[Nexus 4 General] Scottyfer:
Well since the two GSM S4 versions can supposedly have the bootloader unlocked, there's no reason they wouldn't have AOSP, especially if there's an identical device supported.
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
More people know about the S4 than the Nexus 4 so this might actually increase brand awareness cause people probably only look at the Nexus 4 on contract and aren't aware of it being so cheap from Google directly...will be interesting to see what happens
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
I still would of thought them wanting to push the nexus brand instead the s4. But I liked the silence when he announced the price.
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
The price is clearly dictated by Samsung as otherwise Google would've gone in low and undercut the S4!
[Nexus 4 General] F1reEng1neRed:
Well considering the X phone will be made by Motorola, not possible.
[Nexus 4 General] wednesday13:
First time I watched. Never gonna watch again. Lol. What a sucky event. New messaging app is great. But, did they forget the sms feature? I'm pretty sure BBM will rule they play store and iTunes once it has been released
[Nexus 4 General] Mi|enko:
It was waaaaaay better last year. Kind of glad I didn't go this year. After all the excitement last year, I'd have been severely disappointed. . . not to mention my ass hurting from a 3.5 hour single session of sitting. lol

Plus, last year they had Train for the after party and they were awesome. Couldn't imagine Idol being as much fun.
[Nexus 4 General] Neefy:
But... Free Google Pixel?
[Nexus 4 General] Mi|enko:
Did you see the list of stuff we got last year? Also, I went to the Sony GoogleTV event and got a NSZ-GS7 and plenty of alcohol. lol

Here's the list from last year:

Samsung Galaxy Nexus

Asus Nexus 7

Nexus Q

Samsung Chromebox

Plus the Sony GoogleTV if you went to that event.

That's not to say attendees won't get something tomorrow or Friday. But that Chromebook is pretty damn pricey.
[Nexus 4 General] tonyt3rry:
in a way I'm glad 4.3 wasn't announced I'd rather see android be fully updated with other oems than we just get a update and Google is already on its next update s3 still hasn't got 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] Mi|enko:
The GS3 getting 4.2.2 isn't Google. The OEMs have the source already (evident by the GS4). They update existing devices after source is released, do internal test builds, release to the carrier who then also has to test and provide feedback, then the OEMs incorporate fixes based on said feedback, test some more, provide to carrier for testing, carrier approves, then manages the rollout factoring in impacts to care center call volumes, potential impacts to device exchanges if flashes don't go right, etc.

Also, I only covered the software exchange between the OEM and carrier a few times. That's in a perfect world. It can be significantly more depending on the OEM, how significant the update is, etc. An OS upgrade is a huge update for a carrier and OEM to work through as it is. Then factor in UI layers like TouchWiz and Sense. . .

Bottom line, why should Google wait to innovate and update if somebody else is falling behind.

Ps. This was probably TMI, but it's the middle of the night on the west coast and I have insomnia. lol My bad. :)
[Nexus 4 General] d4c:
Lots of rumors flew around about this year's io, so how do we know for sure the x phone is a Motorola phone?
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
one thing i came to find out about rumors is that they are just that..rumors...no one knows if there is a Motorola phone in the pipeline and no one knows what the next android thing is going to be...until there is an official word from the main guys i do not believe anything else anymore unless it is concrete evidence
[Nexus 4 General] :
It is just me... It looks like the nexus line may be phased out with a transition to "Google edition" to all the flagship phones?

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] d4c:
Don't like this idea...
[Nexus 4 General] cipsaz:
DISAPPOINTMENT.

The S4 announcement really turned me down. I was expecting Nexus news, but not on flimsy Samsung device. Stock android should be exclusive on Nexus devices, and now this...
[Nexus 4 General] acid74:
My old flimsy Galaxy s2 has way less issues than my brand new nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] d4c:
Lies, lies spew fourth from your mouth s2 fan boy :)
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Lol look what's happening to us, dudes are mad that devices other than the nexus are getting pure android?? I remember when all we had to argue about was android vs iOS.....aosp for all flagships is ideal. Not saying to rid of the nexus line, and I'm pretty sure Google won't do that, but why the complaints about this lol. Oh yeah and the guy who said his S2 has far less problems than his N4....please not today dude.
[Nexus 4 General] :
I am not mad about it. It could be a good thing. I don't think Google wants to upset other manufacturers. The nexus line seems to compete with the companies that use Android. So a the google edition could be the future.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Its Google's developer event and not a product announcement event for press or general public.

They have announced or showcased products in the past but that's not what this event is for.

They had plenty of stuff for developers at that event and will have informative sessions for next 2 days.

Just because they did not announce what you wanted doesn't make the event sucky.

Sent from LG Google Nexus 4 using XDA Premium
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Agreed, People watched it for the wrong reasons. IT is a developers con. Not for users persay. Lots of great stuff was released. Im mostly excited about the new IDE. That is too cool.

As for Itunes, I think it may get decent usage from ex Apple users but not but most.
[Nexus 4 General] acid74:
I am not a fanboy(far from that) for the time being i own both devices. I cannot relay on my Nexus 4 on regards to notifications and alarm.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Well.. Can't expect more from 'Google Clowns Tax Evaders'

They put the guy in charge of chrome to lead android and we got nothing, no surprise. Did they ever master full screen mode on chrome yet? Suckiest browser on android hands down.

Clowns can't even fix WiFi on nexus 4 since November 2012.

Google game, didn't even work, and had been done by apple a long time a go.

Enhanced photos on cloud storage? Going where a thousand apps have gone long before.

New messaging app that will fail just like their last one.

Maps, some new features, don't need an hour to tell us about it.

meh
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Maybe they should hire you since you seem to have so much more knowledge smh...
[Nexus 4 General] tnw513:
key lime pie at 1.52.4 of 05/16 live video on YouTube. it's in a game.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
My god I hate clowns. Where's my ax.
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I'm at work so I can't watch, did they say anything about when being released?
[Nexus 4 General] k0lega:
I don't have any "faith" in christian post http://m.christianpost.com/news/and...ate-confirmed-to-roll-out-later-today--96003/
[Nexus 4 General] tnw513:
No, nothing... only the name under a menu in a game :D

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 con Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
No source. :banghead: Confirmed by who? No one lol
[Nexus 4 General] Mi|enko:
God spoke to them?
[Nexus 4 General] Zaldi00:
No Android 4.3,no funny :(:(

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[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Just goes to show how much you should believe all these tech sites...
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
Highly doubt that there will be a Google edition of flagships. Me thinks will be a one off.
[Nexus 4 General] dhurk:
No 4.3 ???????
[Nexus 4 General] Whyzor:
Since when is it good to have 3rd parties bog down innovation by a company just so they "have time to keep up"? I bought a Nexus device to get the latest from Google, if I wanted to be slowed down by OEM tweaks, I would've bought a Samsung or HTC device. It's really just a poor excuse that new ideas are slow to come now and it takes a long time to work out bugs (some still exist in 4.2.2)

An analogy would be Google & Ubuntu telling Linux kernel developers to stop releasing new versions because the latest Android or Ubuntu can't keep up with the changes.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Do you honestly think they want the average consumer to be left behind in terms of updates because they push them out so often? Sure, they've slowed down, but it's still not enough. They want to slow down so OEMs can catch up. If Google updates their apps, and only phones with say...4.2+ can use it, the rest of users won't be able to use it. It's in Google's best interest for most, if not all, Android users to be able to use their GApps.
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
So many people confuse version updates to bug fixes.

---------- Post added at 10:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 PM ----------

And now this lol

http://m.androidauthority.com/rumor-android-4-3-release-date-june-10-white-nexus-4-launch-211566/
[Nexus 4 General] Whyzor:
I don't believe Google wants to slow down the updates (hence their internal testing evidence for 4.3), but the manufacturers may have pressured them to delay the public announcements so soon after they released their own devices for fear of embarassement. Either way slowing down a release from reaching the public just so the slowest partners can catch up is bad policy. Your assumption that new Android OS updates breaks old GApps is bad software engineering in general. It breaks backward compatibility, which is standard practice already. When they do break it's called bugs, and they need to be fixed ASAP, before any new features are introduced. But it's always more interesting & flashier to work on new exciting things than fix or maintain old stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
So few tech blogs I trust. Most seem to be a rumour throw down mill now.
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Absolutely. In a mad dash to gain hits or shares or whatever, they really seem to dropping anything lately.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
Google seemed to make a point not the say anything about the next version of Android at I/O. They also showed they could roll out new APIs and services without an Android update. It seemed to me that was their goal. To show developers they don't have to worry about fragmentation since things like the new Google Play Services just rolled out to all Froyo+ users at once. Now that they have shown they can do that, I expect we will see 4.3 in the next month or two.
[Nexus 4 General] Gorjira:
I'm looking forward to whatever OS update is coming out. Whether it be 4.3 or 5.0, this excitement is why I bought a Nexus and sold my Galaxy S3 for it!!! Being Nexus owners we're so "close" to Google, we should be grateful that we are first in line. Instead of waiting for Manufacturers and Carriers to f**k with an update, we get it first. I personally will go back to stock and grab the update OTA, I feel it would be a waste of money otherwise. I'll just make my girlfriend watch the live-stream with me!
[Nexus 4 General] dragon_76:
I just ordered a Nexus 4 because Google doesn't abandon previous owners like the other manufacturers do. All of the main manufacturers get Android early enough to create updates, but instead, they use that time to create new phones to premiere with that version, and typically rush them out the door with many bugs.

Google supports their phones for an average of 2 years, and you can get about another year out of that through CyanogenMod (the Nexus S runs 4.2.2 with CM10.1-M2!)

I probably wouldn't buy another Android phone unless it was a Nexus device, because even after signing an agreement with Google that specific manufacturers (Sony, Moto, HTC, Samsung, etc) would continue to support their phones with Android updates for 18 months after their initial release, they haven't.
[Nexus 4 General] DRS2442:
Does anyone think that the Nexus 4 will see a storage upgrade similar to that of the N7 ? It's honestly the only think keeping me from getting one right now. I don't really care for LTE
[Nexus 4 General] Harry Pothead:
As they did it with the N7 before it is not unlikely to happen with the N4 as well. You really cannot wait 10 more days to know for sure? If you think you might need the extra space you should wait. If you are sure that you don't, go for it now....

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[Nexus 4 General] hifonicy:
Hello... I installed a benchmark on my nexus 4 an saw this in the info about the phones ram and storage....

Is it possible that google had putting 32gb of storage on the nexus4 but had it in stealth mode for a newer update? I see 16gb+16gb right?
[Nexus 4 General] jaggyjags:
Why need a software update for that?

Giving us double storage for free?

This just don't make sense...probably a bug on the app.
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
I would love that if they simply gave us another 16gb storage, but I'd doubt Google would have any benefit in doing that - why not just give everyone 32gb in the first place and get more customers, as many people were put off by the minimal storage?

Sent from my CM10.1 Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] yabbandroid:
I went back to stock (and rooted it again..) to get the full Google experience of the update when they send it OTA :) I know Custom Roms will probably update very quickly too but I wanted to get it from Google :D I'm so excited ;) I want new stuff...
[Nexus 4 General] LoVeRice:
The next time i buy nexus phone ill just wait for the last version that includes all the fixes & stuff,
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Seeing and xperiencing a OS grow/mature is part of the thrill imo ;)
[Nexus 4 General] LoVeRice:
My bad wrong post, i mean the hardware/device- this supposed to be on the nexus5 thread :)
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
The real fun is having an older Nexus device, flashing back to 2.3.7 and having a nostalgia session with your newer Nexus devices. As with all previous new builds of Android I'll make a backup of my current setup, flash new factory images, play with it until the maintainer of the ROM I use merges the new stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] eng.stk:
You know that data partition and sdcard are binded, so that app is showing the same amount for data and sdcard, 16gb in total and not 16gb+16gb.

If you run that on a phone with external sdcard, it would be data 16gb + sdcard size (16,32, etc gb).
[Nexus 4 General] nviz22:
This new Nexus 4 refresh rumor involves solely LTE and 32 GB of storage right? Do you guys agree or foresee a current gen hardware spec placement on the Nexus 4? Kinda like the HTC One X+ vs the HTC One X.
[Nexus 4 General] draugaz:
Technically that would be kind of easy, LG could simply put back all the circuitry they originally cut out from OptimusG design.

But I am afraid it does not make much sense otherwise.

It would be expensive. LG would not work for nothing, FCC would also want money. For the same money you could modify/certify an entirely new device.

It would piss off many current N4 owners even if they there is no real reason to be pissed off, as the original N4 is now already half year old.

They won't sell a lot more of the devices anyway since the device is already "old and boring".

So, I somehow don't see a point. 32Gb or 1.7Ghz chip version - maybe, it literally does not cost much. LTE - not sure.
[Nexus 4 General] nviz22:
Ok, so you can just increase the memory size, and FCC can accept the current radio in the Nexus 4 or would they have to redo the Nexus 4 radio to configure with T-Mobile's LTE and AT&T LTE? 1.7 GHz chip could involve an overclocked S4 Pro right?
[Nexus 4 General] m4r0v3r:
well with Francos kernel you can run at 1.7ghz just fine it seems.
[Nexus 4 General] illgodson:
Looks like this will be announced at I/O, makes it seem all but dead that Google will do anything but mention the N5, which honestly I think most of us have assumed for awhile now

http://androidspin.com/2013/05/09/leak-new-nexus-7-with-android-4-3-set-for-google-io-priced-at-199/
[Nexus 4 General] pwc realtor:
Google is probably on a yearly device release cycle for each type of Nexus device (phone, small tablet, large tablet).

Best we can hope for IMHO is for them to officially activate the existing LTE hardware in the Nexus 4 at the very least so they can beta test getting stock Android to play nice with LTE radios.
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
I'll bet I/O focuses on this new nexus 7, re enforces Google glass, and side notes the lte upgrade for the nexus 4. Android 5 and the nexus 5 come out later in the fall I'll bet.
[Nexus 4 General] Plexicle:
I'll be happy to do so, if they give us something after the keynote.
[Nexus 4 General] pwc realtor:
If that were true wouldn't we have seen the FCC documents by now or are you saying they will say at IO that LTE on the N4 is coming soon?
[Nexus 4 General] Mohit12:
Other than a new phone (maybe, if at all) what are we expecting from the Google I/O?
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
Read in an article on Drippler British Telco`s are dumping the N4 to lower prices as they are going the sell the revamped N4 with LTE. So a new phone is more than likely. Softwarewise we will get a new Gmail app and Play should be renewed and probably other optimizations for under the hood.
[Nexus 4 General] realfelix:
I'd really love the remaining LTE bands to be activated officially. I am quite sure this is possible as the revamped n4 would use the same chip as the current one. No point for selling a new device really. Nobody will buy that ****.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
So our current n4's won't be receiving Official LTE support ?
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
No, that will not happen. Unless you use an older radio like .33 or .27. But that may cause issues if using them with 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
I don't understand why they would give us an lte chip..

I would think they would end up making it useful
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
It just supports some LTE bands (don`t ask me which), but the first N4 was never meant to support LTE. I guess a leftover part from the optimus G.
[Nexus 4 General] MrBelter:
The new version of Play has been out a couple of weeks or have i got the wrong end of the wood thing?
[Nexus 4 General] corwest:
Good point about the FCC documents. But if they use an existing chip from another phone I dont know what the approval process is for the FCC.
[Nexus 4 General] [hfm]:
You never see Apple's fcc filings until after they announce. Maybe Google has finally done the same?

Personally I don't think we're going to see an lte nexus until the next nexus is announced in Oct/Nov.
[Nexus 4 General] tweaked:
I'll flash back to stock if a new/updated Android OS pushes. But I would doubtfully run it very long. Once my Fav rom(s) release updates I'll flash back. I'm addicted to the flash and re-set up of my phone.... Makes gaming hard on it as I delete everything multiple times a month but...Must flash........
[Nexus 4 General] ihakim:
Why not backup and restore games with Titanium Backup so you keep your game data?
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
I hope when 4.3 drops they could enable Lte for us or something like give use a newer lte radio and make it official
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Its possible well they would have to get it through the FCC though
[Nexus 4 General] Girn:
You do realize it only supports one band right. It will never be made official because of that
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Someone that finally knows what they're talking about :D
[Nexus 4 General] fernandezhjr:
Assuming there will be some software changes, this would mean a new version. How soon after IO is it typical for updates or upgrades to be pushed to devices?
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Im sure the update will be floating around on the forums the same day it comes out.