[General Questions and Answers] jwbrooks:
Cannot reroot LG Lucid after OTA update

Hi, I watched the noob video, I searched for relevant posts and discussions, and didn't see any. I was going to post in Bin4ry's thread but someone put a 10 post req on the smart-people forums. I agree with the limit, but all the same that's why this post is here. Here's what's happened so far.

Bought LG Lucid VS840 (Gingerbread at the time) from Verizon.

I rooted it with Bin4ry's tool (forget which version, but I think I recall having to go into download or recovery mode or something at boot.)

SuperSU was installed.

Was able to edit hosts, so rooting was verified.

ROMs never used, only rooting.

Woke up one morning and my phone had ICS on it. Rooting broken. Thank you red devil, I needed that...

Another update applied via OTA, vs840zv8 (current. Runs ICS 4.0.4.)

Many attempts to root with various methods failed. (Bin4ry v30 and v31, SuperOneClick, k0nane)

Factory reset via interface, SuperSU app is still installed. Still can't root with various methods.

Factory reset via pressing keys during boot, SuperSU app is still installed. Still can't root with various methods.

SuperSU does not have an uninstall or update option in my device's App menu or via Google Play store and none of the in-app removal options work either.

Using adb shell, I found that /system/app/Superuser.apk is also present but doesn't show up as an installed app in the gui.

Cannot get rid of SuperSU app or delete Superuser.apk.

Here's the text of when I attempt to use Bin4ry's v31.

-unpacked with 7zip

-cmd as administrator

-navigate to folder then run

-phone's drivers are installed (shows up in dev manager as LGE AndroidNet for VZW NDIS Ethernet Adapter, driver version 3.10 from 5/6/2013)

-USB debugging enabled, install from unknown sources enabled, connected as ethernet modem

-able to manually run adb and browse the device

======================================================================
= This script will root your Android phone with adb restore function =
= Script by Bin4ry (thanks to Goroh_kun and tkymgr for the idea) =
= Idea for Tablet S from Fi01_IS01 =
= (18.06.2013) v31 =
======================================================================

Device type:
1) New Standard-Root (thx Ariel Berkman)
2) New Xperia Root by Goroh_kun (Xperia Z, Xperia V [JellyBean] ...)
3) Old
4) Old-Special (for example: Sony Tablet S, Medion Lifetab)
G) Google Glass Mode (thx Saurik for the ab file)

x) Unroot

Make a choice: 1
Please connect Device with enabled USB-Debugging to your Computer
Doing a Backup first, please confirm this on your device!
Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation.
Done!
Press any key to continue . . .
Please select the RESTORE MY DATA option now on your device!
Now unlock your device and confirm the restore operation.
Please press any Key when restore is done.
Press any key to continue . . .
Going to reboot now ... [COLOR="red"]it seemed to boot up to the gui like normal[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]mount: Operation not permitted[/COLOR]
3407 KB/s (380532 bytes in 0.109s)
4552 KB/s (1500495 bytes in 0.321s)
3776 KB/s (1165484 bytes in 0.301s)
[COLOR="red"]remote object '/system/bin/ric' does not exist[/COLOR]
.
Going to copy files to it's place
mount: permission denied (are you root?)
Rebooting again, please wait!
[COLOR="red"]Could Not Find D:\phone - bin4ry\ric[/COLOR]
Restoring previous Backup! Please select the RESTORE MY DATA option now on your
device!
Now unlock your device and confirm the restore operation. [COLOR="Red"]the restore prompt never appeared[/COLOR]
Please press any Key when restore is done.
Press any key to continue . . .
Going to reboot last time now ...
You can close all open command-prompts now!
After reboot all is done! Have fun! [COLOR="red"]phone's not rooted, but life is still grand in the big picture[/COLOR]
Bin4ry
Press any key to continue . . .

I don't know if the existing SuperSU and Superuser files are causing a problem, or why mounting doesn't want to work, or why Ric hates me. I don't even know him! Why does he have files on my reset phone?! j/k, but still don't know what's up with ric. I also read that the Lucid has a locked bootloader with ICS and that modifying /system can get me stuck in a boot loop. What CAN I do without getting stuck in a boot loop? If I somehow DO get rid of /system/app/Superuser.apk, would the bootloader say "Screw you, long time no see"? Other people have said recently (since firmware zv8) that they have been able to root their Lucid just fine, which makes me wonder if mine is somehow special since it was rooted during the OTA upgrade.

Let me know if there's any further information you need. If you need me to run adb or shell commands, you'll probably have to tell me the specifc commands with options. I can navigate but that's about it on linux. Thanks.