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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] bhp090808:
Motochopper in original development should work

Sent from my Nokia 5120. Rocking it oldschool
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] StolenVW:
Reports from verzion people is motochopper is not working
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MrPlNK:
Don't let the jealousy overwhelm you
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
So Yeah, that's odd... Any confirmations?

Beans!, have you gotten your Verizon S4 yet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] StolenVW:
So far every thing I see in the Verizon section says it don't work
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] greenzone560:
:D ...woot woot!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjkacz:
Just tried it. It says waiting for device

Daemon not running stsrting it nowv on port 5937

Daemon started successfully

Then nothing. Just sits idle
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Regards to root on the Verizon variant and on Sprint's new OTA (likely AT&T and T-Mobile to follow), reposting from the other thread:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
You've enabled usb debugging correct?

Then turned your screen on and allowed your pc to debug (a little dialog box on your phone asks for permission)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] evolution2012:
You did enable usb debugging under developer options correct?

Edit: Wow the post above mine just popped up... my bad.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjkacz:
Yes its enabled but no box pops up other than "connected as a media device"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
A debug message from the computer should have shown up...maybe att and verison may be somewhat hardware wise not identical after all. Are you doing it on the mdb stock build?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CZ Eddie:
Can you guys take your Verizon rooting questions to the freakin Verizon forum and stop topping this thread!?1!

:silly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Um NO, he is asking about the rooting...barber, please proceed.

As I was saying...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjkacz:
Reinstalled samsung drivers and it worked. .thanks guys!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bataga:
BUMP :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Wait, what worked? Are you saying you just successfully rooted??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
He didn't update his samsung drivers...works now though. Now that's what we need more of.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
That sounds pretty cool. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjkacz:
Actually the program said it was successfully rooted. It installed superuser etc etc but when trying to access apps it says no root access. Superuser will not update binaries and rootchecker says no rootaccess
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Ah yes of course, pretty much what we've heard so far on the Verizon variants. It's that updated secure kernel blocking su usage. All we need is unlocked bootloader (from Dan coming soon) and a kernel dev to help us out with this mod (Link) and we should be able to root with no issues.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Did you use the newest version of superuser? get the newest, update binaries, and uninstall it. the version that it installs during the root process, will not update the binaries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
My kernel is all ready to go and yes rooting will be possible. That updated kernel was probably built with 4 flags that prevent rooting. Glad AT&T is always 7-8 months behind the other variants code or we would have been stuck with no root as well. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
Just to confirm the one you have ready is for AT&T or Verizon?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
All 7 variants, already released the TMO and Sprint versions :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
You sir are a true gentleman and a scholar! :good:

Please come on over to the Verizon section and share us your work. :)

(So we can finally leave this thread alone to the AT&T folks) :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cjkacz:
Where do I find the Verizon section?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] open1your1eyes0:
I have linked it in that post but that's just the Development section, here's the general area - Link Here
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Praying for a tomorrow release Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
I will be starting a thread once people can flash it, in the mean time Im remotely debugging with a few guys from TMO and Sprint that used my S3 kernels too. Just make sure you read the last line in my signature before doing anything, lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sd_N:
Good to see u beanstown....:thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bataga:
He and his crew are geniuses!! You won't find another kernel with so much dev / user support and assistance!! So excited to use anything this crew touches :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] upndwn4par:
Nice work unlocking the bootloader djrbliss. :good:

So not happy with Samsung for locking it in the first place.

What were they thinking?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
You made me think it was like released... -.-
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Dwolf16:
Read around it was At&t that locked it. Wasn't samsungs choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] neriamarillo:
I thought the same thing!! :D

Galaxy S4 AT&T Rooted, 1st Android
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] slapdaddy:
Samsung always has a choice. If Samsung held firm on staying bootloader unlocked, AT&T would have caved. AT&T has too much to lose by not carrying the S4.

Sent from my Galaxy S4.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Wasn't it the knox security issue one of the main reasons it was locked?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] upndwn4par:
No one knows that for certain.

Here's a good read:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-and-confirmed-att-galaxy-s-4-is-bootloader-locked/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
Wouldn't make sense as the sprint variant I think was unlocked off the bat.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] c0ldburn3r:
Ummm no. All the variants have Knox on them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
I meant, att is the only carrier that has knox, wasn't it att's idea to lock it down to compete in the corporate market next to the iphone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
No. Its a Samsung thing. Not At&t
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] biggstkk:
Why is this even an issue? People that don't know what a boot loader is won't care and will buy the phone anyway. People that do know come to sites like this where devs unlock and improve the phone. Be mad at AT&T or Verizon all you want but there are ways around their BS. I understand the frustration of hardware being locked but there is a fix for those who want it. Be patient and thankful for people who understand the technology and allow users like us to enjoy it to its full potential.

Sent from the 3rd Galaxy running something Task has conjured up in his 'spare' time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
What is a bootloader?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] djmouse:
haha how come task is allowed to to be a cocksnot in other threads, but god forbid someone does that in his all hell breaks loose lol,just curious
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] :
It loads boots into your closet for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
Jealous? :cowboy:

I would try and bring your curiosities attention to the word "cocksnot". ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AnthomX:
Quit derailing the topic, you have been warned.......*snicker*

I do miss your roms task. Hope you have an S4. Not looked to see if you do.

edit And there it is, AOKP for AT&T SGS4 *bangs head* :silly:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shabbypenguin:
as a person on a sprint sgs4 this exploit doesnt affect me in the slightest. but after all the crap poor dan has had to put up with part of me wishes he never releases it.

http://awesomescreenshot.com/0641ayym1f

the only thing that comes to mind... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AxAtAx:
Isn't it a device to which you insert to polish boots?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] iSaint:
Damn it shabby stay quit :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] appdroid:
Just talked to Samsung technical support manager. When i asked her about the boot loader on s4, she said she can't even talk about it since "it is propitiatory information" then i bs about statues and common laws so she told me that Samsung does not support unlocking bootloader or rooting your phone. She said she don't know why Samsung decided to lock it in first place but she can't talk about it. lolll thinking about HTC ONE! Ahhhh ****s killing me.:mad:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] russiandivxclub:
In my understanding Bootloader has been unlocked (hacked) on i337 some time ago and we've been waiting for Verizon version to comes out to see if same hack will work on all 4 versions. From what I see phones are in ...so ? Does it work ? OR I am missing something ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
Useless thread is useless
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] PlayfulGod:
Dan is the man!!! ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SysAdmNj:
I was wondering why he cared so much about verizon's s4 version lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ZPaul2Fresh8:
We can agree upon that for sure.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bradl79:
Did all of u read. He is not releasing until stupid Verizon brings Thiers out. Don't know why. Then we have to wait until recovery is made. Feels like an iPhone jailbreak. But good news there is one. Now the waiting game
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Swiftks:
Really.... You don't know why??? Can you not read, b/c he explains why quite clearly, and it makes perfect sense. If you would like your bootloader unlocked earlier, you are more than welcome to crack it yourself.

Sent from my SGS III
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] k0nane:
To be fair, even XDA's own writers can't read. ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thermalwolf:
Hahaha yea people need to relax, this is still day one news so people are flocking from all around to spread to joy :D

Anyways I myself am at least patient and enjoying stock firmware after a little spring cleaning ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Zer0_:
Blue? really?

RED is wayyyyyyyyyy better! :)

Great job! I'm excited for the day you release it but I'm happy that I'll be able to run AOKP soon! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] brojoe11:
Fantastic!!!!

You are THE Man...Can't wait. Many thanks and so looking forward to this when you release it. :highfive::highfive::highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] dippedattache:
well that was quick
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SeanHacker:
[MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION]

So if I bother you, will you release??? :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ethem11:
i do not think verizon could change security of their bootloader. I mean if they want from Samsung to change boatload configuration, they will probably refuse it because it will take long time if you calculate shipping and everything from china or Korea. probably they are already bullt a lot of phone so verizon can provide anough for their costemer. and at this point they can not put each phone again to change the bootloader. If it is the same it will be the same if you release or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] stevehkim:
Good try dude. But the man said to wait. Lets honor his decision.

Deviance runs in the blood...

BMS fueled.

4.2.2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] redstar299:
You guys make it sound like the phone isn't usable the way it is... The damn thing came out on Saturday and people are complaining. Try going to iPhone where it's months before it's cracked. Be grateful someone did it so quick. These Devs owe us NOTHING
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
But all it takes is a "simple" software update...no need to recall devices or delay the release...they just need to study his unlock method and patch it (not saying they can easily do that) but once its patched all thats left is a simple software update...and they can put it up as a critical update that you are forced to do as soon as you turn the phone on for the first time

Also keep in mind that their developers are paid to do this stuff...this is all they do when they go to work unlike our devs who do this stuff after they get off work...so samsung/verizon guys have more time and more incentives to patch the bootloader...and they are not reverse engeneering or looking for an exploit...they are just patching one that if released they know the exact location and how it was achieved, there job is much easier than djrbliss

Its better to be safer than sorry imho...have a little patience fellow xda users..."good things come to those who wait"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ethem11:
Yes you are right
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Zer0_:
LOL task! I thought you weren't planning on switching over...?!?!

If you are, the S4 is gonna be ****ing amazing!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] howtomen:
Oh hai buddy! But ditto. Yo bliss yo bliss hey hey hey! Lawl jk but thanks again dan...

sgh-i747(d2att)(sgs3) on latest cm10.1 or ultimatum
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bradl79:
yeah i am not knowledgeable to crack my own, but if i was, i would not be keeping just b/c i can, i would put it out so people who are waiting can go ahead and get their new phone, there are so many people out there now how have and want to get it, its not like its apple to where samsung is going to come with an update to block it a few weeks later.

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That is one of the things that make it better than the iPhone, u don't have to wait months for an unlock or root (jailbreak). they get and get it done quick so you can get the phone and enjoy it longer before the new damn phone comes out months later.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Anakha56:
Congrats djrbliss! I won't be a victim to the whole locked bootloader but this is a awesome achievement for the whole community. Take your time and see if you can make it more difficult for your exploit to be analyzed ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
If you are not knowledgable enough to crack on your own, than you probably dont understand all the circumstances. FYI Samsung's last update to an exploit took 15days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Swiftks:
I hope you can see the irony in your post by implying the developer is being selfish... Something tells me otherwise though.

Regardless, it will not be released until the specified time, so there is no point in the useless banter.

Sent from my SGS III
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rebel1699:
Thanks for the bootloader work djrbliss. This puts the S4 on my upgrade possibility list.

"What do you tell a man with two black eyes? Nothing. He has already been told twice."
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ademuch:
clap clap clap....some people are genius and share their job!! thanks for all nice guy...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
I am simply going to quote what I wrote in another thread on XDA:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ademuch:
in your opinion is it work for both version of s4 i9500 and specialy for me I9505???
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
Neither of these models have their bootloaders locked to begin with, so you should be fine with those.

As far as anyone knows, only the AT&T and Verizon models sport a locked bootloader.

I very much doubt Samsung would suddenly blow the FORCE_TRUSTED_BOOT QFuse on on the existing international I9505 model. (that would go against everything we have seen so far)

I am not sure whether or not the I9500 feature any kind of OTP area that can be written on a post production basis, but we know too little about Exynos to be certain about that, even if it does, I still don't see them locking the bootloader on these devices either.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LLStarks:
Blowing qfuses/efuses would be a **** move of the highest order. I'm curious if there's any precedent for it.

Droid DNA OTA relock was just software, right?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LLStarks:
mathieulh, the entire SCH-R970 line might be locked too. Cricket, MetroPCS, US Cellular users beware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mathieulh:
Thanks for the warning, I totally forgot about that model.

It's also fairly obvious that the SGH-I337 sold in South America (in places such as Mexico) is likely to be locked as well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Sam1geois:
This thread is like a Who's Who of XDA.

Thanks for this, Dan. I don't plan on getting the GS4, but it's good to know the people have won this battle.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raitchison:
No complaining here, even if I personally think it's unlikely that VZW & Samsung would have time to make, test & release a fix for the exploit in the span of a month there's no denying that the longer we (as a community) wait to "make our move" as it were in this seemingly endless game of cat & mouse the longer it will take (and the more it will cost) for the carriers to make their own moves to counter it.

Personally even though I've been jonesing for a new phone for months (been waiting for the S4) I've been waiting for the bootloader to be unlocked before I bought one because for me (like I suspect everyone here) the ability to use a custom ROM is critically important.

Based on what Dan is saying it sounds like he's confident enough in the unlock method that I can move forward and pick one up (I always wait a month before rooting & hacking any new phone anyways to be sure I can easily return if needed).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Lord0KK:
Dude--you're effing awesome! I plan to get my S4 in October when my contract is up. Thanks for being the pioneer and cracking this for the devs to work their magic.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] na7q:
We are in fact unlocked. (US Cellular)

We already have recoveries and AOSP is now in the works :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cundiffr:
Patiently waiting, I suppose I could rock the stock rom for a bit, which is the latest version of android :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
Thread cleaned,

Further bickering, complaining or off topic chatter will result in time outs in the corner, detention and/or community service of clearing my backyard of dog waste.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] AdamOutler:
Awesome work [MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] . I was hoping that I would have a part in this one. Looks like there's too many devs stirring this pot for me to get action :). Hack on man!

Keep in mind that its not over though... we will always be one monotonic tick away from a complete patch. I'm hoping Samsung Knox will allow us to install custom ROMs without actually unlocking.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Peoplearmy:
Unless you have spent hours figuring out a way to help others or until you have actually worked on doing some development free of charge for the benefits of others then please refrain from telling someone who is doing this out of their free will to help you and others when to release their work. Every developer has a reason not to release it when you ask them to for good reason so just be happy that someone took the time to help you out instead of having you wade through the waters on your own. You waiting until the 30th to get your phone unlocked won't hurt you anyways. You would still have to wait for someone to make you a custom ROM, custom recovery, and additional mods so that you can apply them to your phone. It is exactly that kind of thinking that drives developers away and allows the carriers to treat their customers the way they do. Patience and planning ahead will win you wars, rushing in at the first moment may win you a few battles but in the end you're still just shooting for answers against a foe much bigger than you.

DX
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] budeone:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] Thanks for cleaning..

I have a few people at work that have upgrades coming and they like the Samsung.

This is great news for me.. Now I will be able to get all the goodness out of their phones like I have done in the past.

Thanks a ton!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] wdouglass:
AdamOutler, thanks so much for your earlier explanation about the Qualcomm boot process. I have a question:

What causes that counter to increment? would it just be an ATT OTA update, some timeout? Do we not know?

Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] skizzz:
Pure awesomeness, cant wait. Thanks!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
[MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION]

I might have missed it but havent seen a post from you to see if you have tried and custom kernel or custom ROM on the device yet to see differences from stock? Hopefully you have tried AOSP :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Mike:
Ummm whattt???

Edit: For some reason I thought I was in AdamOutler's thread and his S4 to my knowledge is still locked like everyone else's. My mistake

As for AOSP doesn't he still need to build a working custom recovery (cwm or twrp) or can the ROM be Odined in? Not sure if he can just build from source and pump out aosp given everyone else's current situation
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
No problem, but CM made a build the other day for TMO so only takes a few tweaks for him to try it and myself and task650 also have custom AOSP ROM and kernel ready to go, so I was wondering if he had tried anything, given that his is unlocked, he could try it no problem :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] HaruSoul:
Good to hear you guys are bringing your AOKP I'm assuming here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ktoonsez:
Hopefully :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MWilkenson:
You two will have a big influence on a lot of peoples decision to buy an S4 lol. Myself included.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Dvoraak:
From what I've heard so far about the S4..... it needs ktoonsez and your help sir.

Sucks to wait a month to answer the burning question..... Why blue?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] jcase:
Please lets keep this on topic
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mocsab:
I am extremely grateful for the work you have done - and willing to wait (not that I have a choice) until you are ready to release...

My question is - after reading thru Adams posts in the other thread and trying to get a grasp on what he had to offer regarding the Locked Boot loader - what concerns do we have to have about the monotonic counters that he mentioned?

What is the likelihood that Samsung or ATT or whoever will do what Adam says they can do ? and essentially undo what you have accomplished? (I realize you don't have a magic mirror - or do you? lol)

I personally wont run any updates if I can help it between now and your release - but is that enough to prevent them from doing something to block or correct it?

Forgive me if I sound like a dumb as... I don't have as much knowledge as many who are in these threads - but I try to read a lot and learn and hope you can shed some light and possibly some reassurance that it won't be all for naught....?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DJsCrIBbLe:
I think task should get the unlock to work on development! He is a trust worthy dev
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] hyghonryce:
I understand that you won't tell us the process but I'm wondering if it is a tedious process or not.

Thank you. Ordering my phone now since I am able to upgrade it today and will try to not update any updates before your release. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RicoStang:
I was going to just keep reading, but I have to post. This was the only thing that got me to keep my S4 after purchasing and although I'd be more than happy to take the unlock if it were offered, I totally understand the reasoning behind waiting. This is just great news and I can deal with this horrible stock rom in the meantime. Thanks so much. I am starting a new job soon and will happily be donating to all developers from which I use their work.

PS: I know that the unlock is waiting for release, but I do have to give a vote on task650 getting it for developmental purposes:good: