[General Questions and Answers] freestilesteve:
@ N_psycho_PD_uh? & xunholyx

If you read all my posts earlier, I've tried just about everything I can. superSU don't fully update/install when it prompts me too. I don't know what you mean by superSU giving automatic recovery options or something like that?? Maybe if it installed/updated the binaries correct I'd see some automatic recovery options, but I can't even get past that, because kinguser when fully removed, removes root, and when I try to install the binaries from superSU with root removed that way it says "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device." If I try to reroot with kingroot after that I get the android robot icon with a tear in his eye which signals that the root process didn't go through. The only way to reroot is to go in king user and let the binaries/software install/update and then After installing superSU from playstore or from flash superSU prompts me to update/install binaries and if I try that I get the "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again." I've tried to reboot and try again, and even tried in recovery a few times and always get the same two error msgs. First msg when coming back from recovery is "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem! If just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root- consult the relevant forums for your device " in which I think I get unrooted from the su.zip flash. I don't know how its supposed to root people when they flash from recovery when its doing the exact opposite to me by unrooting me.

The msg I get if I try to install/update the binaries from superSU after I get root is " Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again. " The only way I can get root back is by going to the king user app and updating/installing the software/binaries in the app itself. Once I do that I can go back to kingroot, and do the root process again and I'll get the checkmark after it finishes that it went through correctly, not the android robot guy with a tear in his eye which I get if I don't go into kinguser and update/install the binaries to get root back. Seems like kinguser is locking me out of getting the superSU binaries installed. There was a tutorial on here that involved changing the permissions in device/system/app and possibly removing king user that way, but even when I tried it that way it still wouldn't let me remove it, and superSU would prompt me to install/update the binaries and give me the typical "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again. " I think I was able to get it removed that way but still got the "Installing Please wait..." and then after it fails it says " Installation Failed! Please reboot and try again. " when trying to install superSU binaries. Even after flashing it was the same situation with the two errors msgs that come up posted earlier.

Im not worried about it. Just glad that I got the stock recovery/backup and twrp all saved for when I need them. Seems like all the options in TWRP are working as they should. This was really my first run around with rooting a tablet, and being the fact this device isn't that old theres probably not alot out there for it yet as in terms of custom roms and whatnot. I'm just glad it is able to be rooted and that I'm able to recover from a brick if I have to. The only thing I could think of now is to do a complete factory/wipe/reset/dalvik/cache and try the whole process again and hope somehow king user doesn't get locked/installed in there. I'm thinking that might have to do with kingroot it self. Putting my ass on binary lock down are something lol!! Another option I would think is maybe unrooting and trying to reroot with another app/prog that might install superSU from the get go. Just not sure if theres any ready made exploits/roots/apps for this tablet other thing kingroot. Maybe vroot and probably another chinese rooting app, although I haven't tried any of the other ones but according to the thread I read they didn't work. Maybe by now they've been updated to work. Other then a full complete factory restore/wipe and rerooting maybe with another prog perhaps, I don't know if I'll be able to get rid of king user. I could run through the es file explorer and try to remove it like that with the proper permissions but not sure whats up. In the end what I'll probably do is try to fully restore/wipe/complete and then reroot and hope that king user don't get in there. I don't like seeing superSU in my notifications panel if it aint going to install/update correctly so maybe I'll remove it with king user and leave things the way they are. Maybe like framaroot or one of those other programs work now and I can try like that and see whats up. Thanks for the help guys. If you have any more suggestions let me know, or just think I should leave it the way it is let me know that as well. Seems like superuser permissions are there, and actually every app I've tried has worked fine that needs root/su access The only thing that alarmed me was the notification in titanium backup manager that gives a warning that says " Your SU binary (version "Unknown") is functional but might not work reliably on some android 4.3+ roms ( I'm stock rooted 4.4.2 kitkat so no rom here) if you encounter any issues in TB, please try SuperSU instead". Other then that though the typical apps I use which require root seem to have took fine. Permissions were granted by king user for em and they have worked since. Oh well :) I think if anything I'll just play the waiting game. Might be a cool custom rom in the future to play with. And even if not I'm happy that most the standard root stuff I use like quic boot, setcpu, es file explorer root permissions, etc etc and all that seem to work. Kinguser it is until otherwise or if anybody wants to chime in and read through these rather long backlogs of post and chime in. If only the member bodyshop at the bottom of this post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2777756&page=11 could explain how he removed king user. Its the thread for the tab I rooted or the other version of the tab which could possibly work the same. It seems to work though so I might just keep on until i see/read/hear something else.