[LG Optimus 4X HD] frankie_p:
O4X

I want to start with the fact that I do not have this phone (waiting arrival :victory: ).I totally agree with the 'everything is relative' post. People should analyze what they want from their device and then read if what they are getting meets their expectations.

I had the GS2 before and I LOVED that device until I slammed it against a wall for reasons that bear no meaning to this discussion. After having the GS2 for 2 years, I was ready to upgrade and had a list of features that I want:

1- Waterproof

2- Quad core

3- At least 1 GB RAM

4- At least 8GB of Internal memory

5- Battery over 2000mAh

6- microSD card support

7- Nice looks

8- Nice screen with at least 4.3 inch display

9- 8 MP camera minimum

10- Removable battery so in the future when your battery start to swell or lose charge, I will be able to change it easily.

11- Support from the XDA community

12- Hardware camera button

Quite a list huh? It turns out that there is only one model that has all these things and it is not out yet in the market!!! The Xperia ZR. It is supposed to be released sometime in mid or late July and with very limited release markets. Not even the UK, France or Germany will get it. The other phones close to my needs are: Xperia Acro S (dual core, non removable small battery and limited support in XDA, more expensive than O4x), Xperia V (small battery, dual core, same price like O4X), GS3 (horrible looking phone, lots of bugs, not waterproof, but there is a Seidio Obex case that makes it turn into a military submarine, expensive), Xperia Z (non removable battery, all covered in glass?? I will be afraid to even look at it), HTC Butterfly (expensive and can't get it easily in CZ), Xperia ZL (expensive), GS4 (expensive, gimmicky POS Samsung UI, ugly), some Chinese brands (little or no support for roms in English) and the LG Optimus 4X HD (cheap, not waterproof, small support in XDA, some complains about performance).

As you can see I tried to do my homework, but I need a phone NOW and every time during my searches the O4X kept showing up as a good contender. Other than the waterproof part, I love the fact that while listening to music the O4X uses less power which is one of the main things I do with the devices I have. It is cheap, quad core, good display, good camera, and if the worst comes to be, I can always use the money I saved buying the O4X to get the Xperia ZR and leave the O4X as a backup device.

I find it a joke that people complain about a quad core, A QUAD CORE processor overheating... Overheating means that it has reached its operational safety parameters and either you throttle it to keep functionality under reduced performance or let the temperature go up and risk an automatic shutdown. With my GS2 I was getting CPU temp of as high as 50-60 degrees C; battery 40-55 degrees under normal usage. If I used the GPS, it would take 10 minutes to eternity to lock into 5 or 6 satellites if I was lucky and this using all the tricks of the trade to improve lock on. Battery NEVER lasted more than 16 hrs under small usage, and under my regular usage, 8-12 hrs max. I hated to have to change brightness all the time and experimented with all the kernels, roms, modems, etc to get the best performance vs. battery life. Even though I loved my GS2, I felt the change in Samsung on how they are trying to mimic the Apple way and add a million me too releases of the same device with a bit larger screen size or memory or camera. All of them Galaxy phones with a bit of gimmicky to spice them up. All the people saying this or that about the GS3 better investment should do their homework and see how many apps don't behave with the GS3, how it overheats like no other, how the battery is not what some people would make you believe, plus it is UGLY and expensive still.

I read some interesting info about mobile temperatures.

GS4 temperature, a nice 42.6 degees Celsius during gaming

LG Optimus 4X temperature, a much lower 38.7 degrees Celsius during gaming after 10 minutes.

When you get a readout of the CPU's temp, that is the CPU, not the device's surface temperature. If you do not like the phone as it is right now, either sell it and get another quad core (good luck finding one for similar price as O4X) and come back and write here how much temp difference you get with this other mobile. Your other option is to read, and read more and then read even more and then root, unlock bootloader and get a new kernel, experiment with apps that change the throttling on the device, change governors, etc. This is the magic of Android, you can do with it pretty much anything. Yet people try nothing and expect their devices to cool them a beer while playing GTA. All the 'problems' of this mobile will be sorted by ROM and kernel updates. So before you go an crucify this mobile, try to adjust it to your needs and only after you have tried many things then come back and write what you did and what you still didn't get to your liking and hopefully some dev here will try his best to fix it.