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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] adsada arc:
This has always been happening, its incredibility frustrating the music will cut out/or will stutter often. It does seem to do it more often the longer the phone is booted up. But there is enough free RAM and I don't really know why it's doing it, I have even reinstalled the firmware...running stock ICS .55. so irritating if anyone can tell give me a working solution I will buy you a coffee!:good:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Jackmax32:
Every music player on stock ICS for XS shutters (on my XS) .. Seems to be a problem with stock rom..

My friend's low end Samsung Galaxy Y doesn't have this problem. I try my best to avoid playing music around him.. Its embarrassing IMHO..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] adsada arc:
Even the walkman app? Walkman seems to be fine for me, but I don't like it so don't really wanna use it. Plus I bought powerAMP so I want to use it obviously plus its awesome otherwise :silly:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Jackmax32:
Yes.. Seems to be the worst affected.

Testers are reporting smooth music playback on latest leak JB Firmware : 6 .2 .B .0 .197 ... Everything is working except for some minor bugs..

You can try that out..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Bugly Astard:
There's a setting in poweramp to increase buffer size, I leave it as is and haven't had any stutters or skips on stock ics

Sent from my stock lt28at(I)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] adsada arc:
Yep I have it on Huge (+750ms) and it still skips :(

[MENTION=4015592]Jackmax32[/MENTION] good to hear, more excited for its release then ever
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Bugly Astard:
Strange, I haven't had it happen once. I'm using 6.1.A.3.7 firmware, heavily debloated, with unit.d tweaks.

Sent from my stock lt28at(I)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Just to be sure im not making this thread cause im a ios funboy..its the other way arround..i respect both OS's as i think many of us here but i always wanted to ask something that is bothering me for a long time..

As i enter my 2nd year as a android user and using iOS since iphone 3G i was in love with the iOS but always envy the interface and openess that android had to offer...so when iOS became extremly boring to me i switch to android and im in love with it..so many options so many features so much to learn...

But the main question...even as android is a great OS why it not quite good as iOS in terms of stability,battery life,smoothness.

I see somewhere that android has problems with the memory and how its used...i can't remember the exact techical term that i saw on this post but if anyone has some techinal knowlage over this question i will be happy to hear his thought!!

Thanks and sorry if this is extremly off topic!! :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav quietly brilliant:
You mean memory leak issue? And yeah it is correct that the android os can't use the full potential of the hardware it's been provided with
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Yeah but why??not even on nexus devices that are meant to use android??
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav quietly brilliant:
I don't know i am only a reader like you read it in a blog by androidauthority if i remember correct
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
what are you talking about? what memory leak bug? i have no memory leak on my n4(i constsnlty have between 1400-1600mb free ram, maybe youre using the wrong rom/kernel or you dont take control of your apps). and also, android can use the potential of the hardware, but the app developers have to write their apps that way. thats not an android issue, its the issue of some bad app developers.

---------- Post added at 04:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:19 PM ----------

ha!

so if its written in a blog, then it MUST be the truth. because everything found online is true(the internet doesnt lie) :p
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav quietly brilliant:
Dude i am just talking in general not technically.. I am not a engineer or neither a coder and you are getting too hyper, go get a life buddy you seriously need it
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
lol, youre funny :)

if you do not know, then why are you posting like you know? besides, your post right here is the hyper post. i have a nice normal life, thanks for your concern. but i do suggest that you stop living in the fantasy.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhinav quietly brilliant:
Just because the op mentioned about something related to memory so i thought he is talking about memory leak
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Calm simms we are asking about in technical terms whats wrong with the android versus the iOS...im sure you used or had at least once in your life used iOS so im pretty sure that you also notice the big difference in experience!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
I could very well be wrong, but if I understand iOS and Android correctly, iOS apps can access "more" of the hardware, or at least more efficiently. Android apps have to go through Dalvik, and aren't... native?

A similar comparison would be C++ Windows applications on Windows, vs Java apps (being ran through JVM).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
no, i dont use ios. i try to avoid it(but have played with it ;) ). anyways, i was just stating that what he wrote isnt true.

default(stock) android vs ios, there probably is some kind of difference. there would even be a difference between a nexus/aosp android and other oem builds. many companies you proprietary dalvik tweaks to make things faster, but they are proprietary. aosp and the nexus use the basic open source dalvik/tweaks, so it might not be as fast when it comes to the ui(and other things). but then again, thats default/stock android. when you move to custom builds, and after optimizations, the difference between ios and android isnt there anymore. ios also uses custom proprietary optimizations btw.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
I have heart that too some mounths ago..and why google used this as i get it with my least knowlage over software is like android is working on a virtual machine!!why they didn't create android just like iOS structure?

You can understand my first question by a simple example...just see the specs of 3gs that can use ios6 just like iphone5..in the other way see the specs on nexus 4 or S4 and im pretty sure that there lags even 1-2secs!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
maybe so, but i have seen ios lag as well. and have heard people complain about ios lagging.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
in my experience to make iphone lag..you have to do some serious sh1t with cydia....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
They did it likely for overall compatibility support. When Java was first announced, it made the promise of writing code once, and being able to run it on anything. Android is "essentially" the same thing, to maybe a lesser extent. iOS on the other hand is designed to run on the few devices Apple has currently, nothing else.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
So we can't use 100% the possibilities of android cause of open source and compatibility!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueFlame4:
So...

AFAIK iOS is based on Objective C whereas Android uses Java. Java is not exactly known for performance - in contrast to (obj.) C. So you can optimize C-Programs way more than Java since Java does a lot "under the hood" that you can hardly control. Android's Java VM is optimized a lot for performance but... it's still Java :>

Secondly iOS doesn't have true multitasking as Android does. When you press the home button on an iPhone, the current app is nearly instantly "frozen" in the RAM. In Android apps put in the background can still do calculations and stuff (you usually recognize that when an app goes rampage and drains your battery, lol).

Third iOS doesn't quite have a file system structure but a database structure internally. Databases are way faster than file systems. The disadvantage here is that you can't save files to your internal SD card since there is no file system (like NTFS under Windows or EXT under Linux).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myturbo1:
Google needs to work on, say klp 5.0 being useful ,smoother, more patched Instead of all this buggy trash.

But it's always about something new...

I have thought a few times about getting an iPhone!

Almost everything is better. Let's be honest about that!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
I can't agree there. I like the freedom of being able to look at AOSP source code, kernel sources, and even try out different operating systems, at all, on my Nexus device (I can't say OEM devices have the same freedom though).

I consider iOS a pretty locked down platform. If I'm paying about $500 for a phone, I better be able to do "whatever" I want with it, and that is simply not the case with an iPhone. A $300 Nexus 4 on the other hand can do far more :)

Guess this is now an iOS vs Android thread :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Just finish reading the above post..and yeah android is beautiful android is easy and fun to use but my thought is that android is a "kiddish" OS compare to iOS but i have to say that even with this bad features android is still better in term of using in time compare to iOS...iOS is pretty boring OS!!

No...no just keep the thread in pure technical terms...i also like the freedom of android..but jailbroken iOS is pretty open,not in a way that android is but still pretty open....but i though that google could use the way iOS is build and keep the freedom is offering...imo the only way to banish iOS from the map is to use a different build structure and at least abandon java where they can!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myturbo1:
We are taking about how the phones were made to be.

Also the avg consumer could care less about what your talking about. Not everyone is into it

Its a perk yes..

& the nexus is more like 400 .

IOS is smoother , beautiful screens/graphics, high quality build, software is way ahead of android... & game selection.... the biggest thing to do with a smart phone

Don't make this a war lol

And yes iOS looks kind of boring, to sum. But it is so well put together!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] espionage724:
Does iOS allow for input devices over USB (keyboards, mice, controllers, etc.)?

:cool:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueFlame4:
Please stop guys m(

Can we get back to the topic, please?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
I see alot users have the same question with me!!!and i thought that this question had already anwered a long time ago!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myturbo1:
Also if you jailbreak it I'm sure you can, or maybe just download an app.

I'm no pro when it comes to iOS . but it only takes 5min of an iPhone in your hand to notice its really well put together compared to android..

Also notice their software is so smooth they only need dual core.

But they do have wireless technology...

Apple no longer makes an 8gb . So I did a more reasonable comparison (16gb)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
We are talking about the OS in techical comparison over android...not prices...not jailbreak...the price is stricly the company choice...mac pc's cost a hell a lot of money with no better specs than my 2years windows machine...anyway...for now we stick to the difference between java build and c-obj build!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fredcorp6:
iPhone 5 may only be dual core but its a proper A-15 chip, similar to the beast in the nexus 10 I believe. Easily a match if not better than our S4 pro.

With regard to issues with android RAM management the op mentioned, I read that a completely new type of kernel is being developed which means the android system will use a lot less ram. This will speed up the phone and improve battery life. Will likely see this implemented in the next update.

Its also worth noting that iOS does not have true multitasking; when switching between apps the previous one is "frozen". This helps iOS to be so responsive and smooth.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueFlame4:
Well, it's a new Linux kernel version, yes. The base is still the same ofc (Linux), but it'll have better RAM management and stuff. AFAIK the next version of Android could use Linux kernel 3.8.

Sent from my Gameboy Color
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
So using a newer linux kernel will fix or make interaction better even with the remaining "virtual device" like work with java build?or just make nexus 4 using 300MB RAM and now its using 700MB RAM?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sy224048:
Actually the a6 is partially based on a15 just like the krait in the s4 pro, except ours is quad core.

Sent from my fist to your face.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clark Joseph Kent:
Word of Warning Members, If the thread goes into a bashing of Android vs iOS...it will be closed. Thank You.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Still dosent we are good guys tonight!! ^_^
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arstoien:
Regarding animation smoothness on Android and iOS [MENTION=4354560]Net.silb[/MENTION] gave a link to a good read: Why does Android scrolling/animation stutter? in this post in another thread.

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueFlame4:
Well, I don't know the changelog in detail but I'm sure there will be a lot of optimisations regarding speed and responsiveness.

You talk about the RAM consumption as if it was something bad but it's actually good if the RAM is full under a Linux machine. Linux caches every process (and app) closed as long as possible and doesn't overwrite those unless another process needs RAM.

So when Android tells you that you have 700 MB used and 1,3 GB free you are more likely to have 700 MB ACTIVELY used, 1,2 GB full of cached apps and 100 MB really free. You can check that by simply typing "free" into a terminal emulator under Android. :)

Best regards!

Sent from my Gameboy Color
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Yeah i know that i sometimes used to watch the ram..and specially on my old huawei device with 512mb ram 384mb usable..when im asking about ram im asking about general use!

But even with this im still thinking that the main problem with android and correct me if i stuck to the wrong problem..is the use of java!!!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlueFlame4:
Yes and no. It's true that it's slower than C but more portable. Think of all the devices running Android ;)

I'll continue this conversation tomorrow, good night!

Sent from my Gameboy Color
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pikachukaki:
Im pretty sure that the portability problem isnt so big a deal with c language..i have no knowlage btw!!!! :P
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tanmoy Mitra:
This might help
[Galaxy S 4 General] fade2green514:
Thought the s4 needed an official thread for this. That way, we get a variety of types of users and people can see what type of battery life they can expect and plan accordingly.

Please include a screenshot & also list what battery you are using, and if applicable any custom rom or hacks implemented that effect battery life at all.

I believe you can take a screenshot by using the power & home buttons at the same time, correct me if im wrong.

I.e. stock battery, cyanogenmod 11, 9505 verizon

<screenshot here> (will post mine when I get it of course)
[Galaxy S 4 General] cidica:
I'll have to post a screen later as I didn't take one when I woke up this morning. But I actually forgot to put my phone on the charger lastnight as I fell asleep. Woke up with 13% left on the battery after 17 hours of it being on. Over 4 hours of screen on time this is Stock no root with the stock battery after 1 full charge Sprint SGS4. Texting all day after the full charge installing apps was on WiFi for awhile and just in general playing with the Camera and settings just getting a feel for the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] winwiz:
looks pretty good to me!
[Galaxy S 4 General] cell128:
I getting mixed messages. Some people are reporting under 3hrs screen time while others get 5+...wtf???
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hunt3r.j2:
The former have bad apps or settings. This phone should be pulling around 6 hours of screen time.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Southern_mind:
Probably with wifi on all day. The latter with lte
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nessuno1:
Here is mine : 4h20 with 20% remaining, 2nd charge.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ragingredbull:
I reckon you guys should be getting 6hrs easily. I am getting 5 and a half on my One, although I must admit a number of posters on the One forum are saying they are getting poor results. A number of 2 - 4 hours screen time. Do you think the extra real estate is making a difference. Do you think the extra battery size will nullify the extra real estate? Will be very interested to see how much of a difference there is between the octa and the snapdragon.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Floppy454:
Today I dropped mine down to 12%, with just under 3 hours of screen time. I had data, NFC, wifi, and sync on the entire time. I thought it would do a bit better than this, luckily I am going to pick up a new Anker replacement battery on Tuesday.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fade2green514:
The difference likely wont be effected a huge amount between exynos and snapdragon , maybe 30 minutes (probably less lol) if I had to guess. Chances are a snapdragon with battery saving mode will outperform (battery wise of course)an exynos without battery saving mode enabled.

Im using a droid 3 with the screen set to 8.6% brightness.... running steeldroid gingerbread rom which is fairly minimalistic and it gets worse battery life than any of these other people.

Im just glad I wont be wasting a ton of battery waiting for it because its so slow and it dumps memory all the time because it only has 512mb ram lol
[Galaxy S 4 General] Azralag:
I didnt take screen shots but my first full charge got me about 14 hours with 10% left. I intentionally left power savings off and turned off all air and smart functions because I don't use them.

Today is my 2nd charge and im at about 6 hours with 52% left (screenshot). A few phone calls, text, pictures, & 2 hours of spotify in the car. Again, power savings is off. So are all the air and smart features. Brightness around 35%.

S4 on Sprint.
[Galaxy S 4 General] virtual-metal:
galaxy s4 battery

awesome battery life :good::cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
Anyone with Octa version?
[Galaxy S 4 General] trincisor:
Please post screen on Times

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] anewday:
Post screen on times with 4G enabled and 12+ hours discharged. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] hung2900:
On my Note 2 and S4, battery saving is turned on all the time except the heavy games (even on Note 2 I can play real racing fluidly with battery saving)

Smart features I turn on hovering feature only
[Galaxy S 4 General] Dr.Love:
This is my S4 battery screen on time after the first charge. 5h45m with still 19% left.

- Battery saving: Off

- Version CPU: Octa

- Screen on time used: Surf web with 3G on.

- No root and don't remove any apps.

- Temperature via battery widget monitor: only 31,5-32,7 °C
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nebbeh:
Can I get an opinion? This is while driving around los angeles all day. About 3h30m screentime, but probably another hour or so of google music and podcasts playing with the screen off. I turned battery saving and green power on at about 40%.

Had about a 15 minute jump charge when I was at 18% before I drove home. I have major audio_out2 and directtrack partial locks, but I figured that was the podcasts.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bhatbhai:
Not really a full day of use, and only light-moderate use. But I'm about to head to bed and charge again, so here is my current info:

Edit: also, Wi-Fi and GPS on the entire time.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Fille84:
Haha, not a heavy user huh?
[Galaxy S 4 General] septix:
A few hours Spotify over 4G. Some surfing, texting and some calls.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdstheking:
my s4's backup

http://dl.xda-developers.com/attachdl/5843f62dd3157f9973364289fb305e0a/518fb1c8/1/9/5/6/5/6/7/Screenshot_2013-05-12-20-08-22.jpg
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Huh ? You've been charging it
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdstheking:
after connecting charger time will start again, use ur mind man...
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Nope it won't
[Galaxy S 4 General] msavic6:
The usage time will reset when your phone charegs to above 90% battery otherwise it won't reset and will just show a rise in the battery history graph.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gdstheking:
when battery is fully drained at that time i use charger.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mamba720027:
christ,just fully charge the device 100% and let it drain. Show a proper graph people. Not some half arse crap. No need to get technical about showing your battery drain.:cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] fade2green514:
the sharp spike in the graph of upward battery life in your 1 day 22 hour charge , is time that you charged it for. you charged it to almost 100% but not quite, and therefore it did not reset the graph.
[Galaxy S 4 General] foxy4270:
This is mine.
[Galaxy S 4 General] shortie1987:
This is mine, 9505 with data on all day, some wifi, dodgy signal...
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9500 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Pas mal du tout! Qu'est ce que tu penses du galaxy s 4 dans l'ensemble?

translation: Not bad at all! Overall, what do you think of the Galaxy s 4?
[Galaxy S 4 General] micktsoba:
Heating

Is any one finding that there phone gets really hot after 10min of use
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Under heavy usage (i.e. demanding 3d games) yes but it's normal for mobile device.

Try play with your laptop heavy game and you'll see the same thing.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mightyillidan:
lol is it me or this guyz has great battery life here ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Here my results:

The 45 minutes held awake are for music while screen was closed :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] atvong:
I'm kind of jealous for those who have good battery life. I couldn't pass 4 hours of screen time at first. After flashing a custom ROM (Omega) I was able to get at least 5 hours easily with heavy WiFi and data usage.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
I love my battery on this. My usage is mostly 2hrs of YouTube streaming over 3g. A lot of Web browsing and xda. No gaming. The brightness is set at full auto
[Galaxy S 4 General] tclocki:
You may want to buy a better battery then? :)

I've maxed out my brightness the past couple of days to see how much it will affect battery life, from 4 hrs 30 mins display on time (60-70% brightness), it went down to 4 hrs, 5 mins (100% brightness). Again, this is with minimal CPU/GPU usage. I just used my phone for text messaging, notes, and some occasional email checking.
[Galaxy S 4 General] raphou20:
This is mine à few days ago

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9505 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] DDN24:
5 hours~ screen time.

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 General] chavxxx:
Here's mine. Nonstop use from 100% fully charged, browsing the net using sim network (HSPA+), with power saving mode on, air view on. This is a week old i9505. Already charged several times.

Devices:

Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505

Samsung Galaxy Note II N7100

Motorola Droid RaZr XT910

iPhone 4
[Galaxy S 4 General] chavxxx:
Update:

Devices:

Samsung Galaxy S4 i9505

Samsung Galaxy Note II N7100

Motorola Droid RaZr XT910

iPhone 4
[Galaxy S 4 General] diegomtoscano:
This is mine no idea how people are getting 6 hours screen on any tips?
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
total time around 18+ hours , with few hours on flight mode. screen on time is 5:30 + hours. data always on except flight mode. 9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] DocRambone:
Pretty nice battery time on the s4:
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Wow! how? what kernel? what ROM?
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Pretty nice??? That is incredible.