yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] bo8:
Yup definitely. Did you get a chance to test your elixir with the oem cable?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Phatdawg:
Did it today, it's 1200 mah.

It's okay in that the discharging rate for the phone is usually around 400-500 mah, so you charge at positive 700 or so, for your standard battery it will give you 25 percent over an hour.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] shaq1907:
So, which one has best performance/price ratio? Can you suggest me a cheap and real 2A car charger from ebay?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] PharmNerd:
Can anyone confirm that Monoprice cables charge at 1900mA? I waded through Amazon's minefield of "OEM" chargers, and the 2A car charger I got (from the Ms.Cellshop seller) came with a cable that only outputs 300mA. If I swap out the cable with the one from an older Sammy wall charger, I got it up to 1200mA. (Bought my S4 off eBay, so I have yet to get my hands on an original charger cable to test with)

I have my eye on this cable: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=9761&seq=1&format=2
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Scolias:
Word to the wise with monoprice cables(if you use certain cases), you have to trim the rubber on the MicroUSB part, it wouldn't fit with my case
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jproy12:
I just saw this charger:

http://www.amazon.com/ACC-48181-301-Blackberry-Premium-In-Vehicle-MicroUSB/dp/B0089QK4NK

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-ACC-481...S_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item19e0085123

It seems like it's made for the blackberry playbook, and according to reviews, it has an true output of 1800mA, which is just short 100mA from our OEM S4 charger. Given the fact that I tested a "Playbook wall charger" and it worked fine on my S4, outputting 1900mA to my phone, I may give this a shot, since the Playbook calls for 2A, so it's basically asking for a similar charging as the S4. For more info on my test for chargers:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44651947&postcount=128
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] reTARDIS:
I just had this charger delivered yesterday and it charges at the max 1.9amp output the phone is able to do when using the port labeled as "NA" which means not Apple funny enough.

The other port would charge at 1.2amps but is specifically for Apple devices.

It's only $7.99.

I've tried a lot of 2amp rated car chargers and this is the very first one that will actually charge my S4 at the full 1.9amps.

You of course need a grounded microUSB for it to work as well.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jproy12:
Nice find! Do you have a link to this said grounded microUSB cable?

I wouldn't mind getting one or 2 more for data transfer and to charge for future!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] reTARDIS:
Really I've found that *most* microUSB cables are grounded. The only time I've found a microUSB connection that was not grounded was on a $3 MicroUSB desktop dock I got from eBay that I use to charge my S4 on over night.

I don't have anything specific but in my car I'm using one of those retractable microUSB cables and I get the full 1.9amp output from it and it works fine when connecting my phone to a computer as well. I got it for a few bucks from my local Frys Electronics store.

It's probably safe to assume if the cable came with a modern smartphone then it'll probably be grounded as well.

Unfortunately all the listings on Amazon for microUSB cables do not specify if they are grounded or not.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] joeybear23:
I got two of these:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B8MMZY8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

work great.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jproy12:
How much current does it output to the phone, do you know?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cbb77:
I have this one by Scoche and it works very well. Actually have a LG Wireless charger connected to it in the car but have also tested it directly attached to S4. Works great.

http://www.amazon.com/SCOSCHE-usbc202m-VOLT-c2-Packaging/dp/B0077PM3KG/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1376606818&sr=1-1&keywords=scosche+dual+usb+car+charger
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Decepticaons:
Search Amazon for Motorola quick charge car charger. Got 2 for $11 shipped. Looks amazing at night and it charges fast, and holds the charge. If you need a link let me know.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] swieder711:
Can you measure the charging rate mAh when using this charger?

The app Battery Monitor Widget does that measurement.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] darren.wlsn1:
im using one of these and its nice with universal points cause my girls got a ipad. http://www.ravpower.com/ravpower-rp-cc01-car-charger.html
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] wagnerpk:
I bought original Samsung 10W car charger from ebay and charging not working proper. I figure out that the problem is the cable. It's pretty similar to the one wich came with GS4, but it's black.

Someone knows where can I buy a cheap cable for delivery in Brazil wich can deal with 2A current?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] joeybear23:
I don't have a multimeter
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] cbb77:
Okay I only have one cable available to me at the moment. This is the one that came with my LG charger. Using that cable with the Scoche usb charger I get 1210mAh. I am sure it will be higher with the Samsung cable but not sure how much. Testing that I've done on wall chargers showed that the Samsung usb cable charged faster / at a higher rate. I can retest on Monday as my Samsung cable is at work (was off on vacation today)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] bo8:
You wont need one. Grab Galaxy Charging Current Lite from Play Store, install and run, and plug charger in.

I'm betting that charger outputs 1.2 - 1.4 amps to the s4.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] ranger4740:
Electronic calculation

Watts = volts × amps

Amps= watts ÷ volts

So your 10 watt charger looks like this

10 ÷ 12 = 0.833 amps.

so most likely not cable problem as the maximum power from charger is only 10 watts or 0.833 amps.

Or in the case of 5 volt output it would look like this

10 ÷ 5 = 2 amp

So it might actually depend on if that's the input or output power that is calculated. Some of these mobs can be tricky.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] LouZiffer:
10 watts is 10 watts. That charger should output 2A maximum just as they said. How many amps it draws from the car battery is beside the point.

Sent from my SPH-L720
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jproy12:
So picked up this charger today, and tested with Galaxy Charging Current and it outputs 1900mA to the phone with the cable, haven't tested the USB port yet...

Will report back when I do.

JP
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] joeybear23:
Okay, I did a few tests on all my chargers using that app.

Results are as follows.

Samsung S4 stock wall unit: 1200

Samsung S2 stock wall unit: 700

Anker S4 dual car unit: 1240

EBay S2 car unit: 640
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] fromanbr:
galaxy s4 stock wall must measure 1900mAh

there is something wrong with yours.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] joeybear23:
It must?

There is?

Very definitive statements... are you sure there is no other explanation?

I wonder if battery level plays any role in what the phone pulls from the charger...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Pfeffernuss:
No, your statement is completely incorrect.

With the newer firmwares the phone charges with 1900mAh while the screen is off but only with 1200mAh while using the phone. All due to heat regulations. So his observation was spot on actually.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] fromanbr:
humm my i9505 always charges at 1900mAh using stock rom and pure GE rom

sorry if I was wrong, but if my phone charges at this rate (and I didn't modified it) I thought any other must do the same, right?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
i95050 is different, its 4 cores insead of 8, I installed the latest nexus camera app and i was only touching the screen and its really boiling, guess my phone with 8 cores produce double the heat and its dangerous for it to max current charge.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] fromanbr:
I know it's different, but it's the same model as the user that told my comment was "completely incorrect"
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Decepticaons:
Mine is always exactly 1200, never more, never less.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] psybmb:
Get a USB adapter. I've charged 2 S4 at the same time without issues!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] skygear:
Been using a 2.1amp dual USB charger from the local Hardware store. Works fine. Next up is the NOKIA WIRELESS Car Charger/ Cradle.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
Here's the circuit board for a 2.1A 5v one usb port.

The coil is way bigger than regular ones

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
Thats the difference

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] skygear:
I'll crack open the one I have. Mine is a DUAL though. 2.1a & 1.0A - marked on the ports.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
Alright but dont brake it, I have dual one too but its glued

And i made a plug for it as seen in picture,

The batt inside is 2500mAh but i feel it does more than those 6000 and 9000 fake power stations.

Today gonna buy another one to make a portable one, this one is big for a pocket all that metal and plastic should be removed, have a look at the 12v plug in the earlier pics the one with big coil, it burned when i mistaken with batt polarity ... a 13$ has gone :(

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] xformulax:
I use this too, have since the droid X, one for my car and one in my wife's.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] skygear:
on the front of the plastic it reads 5v 1.0A & 5v 2.1A
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
The white wire should go to data and balanced by the resistors in the main board,

That coil have many wire turns it ease the work on the ic. The more cold while full load operation the more efficient the circuit is.

Tomorrow morning gonna take pics for a new charger that is capable to supply 4A, 2 usb ports 2A 1A just like this one and micro usb wire.1A, I tested it on iPod S3 S4 all at once, it was awesome..

They are connected all to same board im sure, the wire charge 2A but they say its 1A..

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] skygear:
Nice. I can do better res photos if needed too. Or multimeter and solder reworking...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] BeerFreek:
rstargeF cast

Hello all,

What charger/cable do you recommend for charging while using GPS/bluetooth screen on. I bought one from Amazon that said 2A but I get a discharge rather than charging the battery.

Thank you for your answers as I use the GPS function quite alot this is actually important.

Thank you
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] PharmNerd:
I think the 2A ones on Amazon are all technically Galaxy S2 chargers, and the cable they come with only supplies 300mA to an S4. If you have any other charging cables lying around, try those. Download the Galaxy Charging Current app to see how many amps are being supplied. Using the cable from an older 700mA Samsung wall charger, I get 1200mA, which is enough to charge the battery while using GPS.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Decepticaons:
This is the same one I posted pages back. I have one in both vehicles as well.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] agonysfate:
try installing an app called " Battery monitor widget " it shows if your mobile recognize the power as AC or USB ...

this is one most important to know plus the app saves log and draw a graph of how fast your charging is

if your mobile see it as USB then you have a problem with " Data " wires , either its not balanced or might need to short-circuit ( Data - with Data + ) both and only them or the wire is not thick enough, usually S3 S4 mobile wires are capable of high current as Tab wires

I made a hack that simulate AC wall charger , its both male and female USB sockets but I took the USB female from a broken car charger and attach a male one to it , discarded Data wires for male USB so now even when I use that module on my laptop and plug my phone USB on it is recognize it as AC, only the Issue that my laptop cant support high current which is up to 1A while my Galaxy S4 needs 1900mAh, and I need to use the original wire after that module

the cable can make a big difference, I used just a thick wires and my mobile started charging till 1900mAh ;)

but when the wires are thin and weak they drop voltage and the mobile drops current also and never use it as a high current supply, its a kind of a protection to your charging device like PC's USB or low current AC charger, otherwise it will ruin your charger for sure.

let me know what happens with you...

---------- Post added at 01:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:44 PM ----------

Its definitely a 3A charger, no need for soldering but maybe just ic numbers so i search its datasheets, thanks alot

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] fromanbr:
ordered this one too

i hope it delivers 1900mAh :)

thanks for the tip!
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] jproy12:
It does deliver 1900mAh, I've been using it for the past month without any problem and charging the phone perfectly! It's a good alternative to the other chargers out there, and even the USB port combined with a good USB cable charges up to 1900mAh :good:

JP
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
If you're okay with stripping wires and splicing, then I would buy this for $10:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/waterproof-...620?pt=US_PDA_Accessories&hash=item460e89a1e4

Splice the DC input wires into the cigarrette lighter wires on the back of your dashboard. Or directly to any suitable fuse using a fuse wire holder thingy.

Should give you a true 1900 mAh charge. And has the male MicroUSB and female USB connectors for expansion.

I have the 2A version and verified I get the full 1900 mAh with it.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] KRAZYADROIDMASTER:
Can you plug it in to the cigarette lighter with the proper p:confused:lug???
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
If you're asking me, then yes you can, but it would require other items to make it all work together and anyways, there are better cig lighter alternatives.

My charger suggestion is more for a permanently installed, clean looking setup.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] swieder711:
Cool adapter.

What does this mean, "The*equipment comes with the*Identification*of resistance*such as iphone*will*can not*use this item" as listed on the eBay description.

Are there 2 separate output cables or are they daisy chained? Hard for me to tell from the picture.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
The iPhone disclaimer means the resistor setup on this cable won't work with iPhones.

Looks like it's just a pigtail. The charging output is split into two different adaptors, one female USB and one male MicroUSB.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mankvl:
Will i get 1900mAh with built in cable on my I9505 with this car charger?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00B8MMZY8/ref=noref?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=electronics

??
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
If Belkin is advertising truthfully about the 2A rating, then it should charge just as fast as if you were using the stock S4 charger. Provided you're using a decent quality, ~stock length (or shorter) cable.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] rileyy0:
I have the pretty much the same thing, but Griffin's version of it. It works extremely well for me.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Pfeffernuss:
Received that one this weekend. Just tried it. It works as expected, both ports show:

So that's good news :good: Haven't tried charging two ("heavy") devices simultaneously, will try later ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] mankvl:
nice news, i'am buying this one definitely ;)
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] kudosmog:
I've had this one for a few months now: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009QTLTOM/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Though, it doesn't look like that. The one I received was much smaller. Not sure about the new unit, but the one I have broke on me recently. The USB plug-in area disintegrated.

Before that though, it would still charge my S4 with screen on, maps + pandora running. Tested on 8 hour car trip.

The one I received looked like this: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31cSQrQnJNL.jpg
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] davidke:
I have the so-called original Samsung 2.0A Car Charger from here:

Samsung OEM 2.0A Car Charger

Galaxy Charging Current *Lite* gives 600mAh with the screen on. Not as bad as a 1A but at least the cable is super long so it reaches my dash mount! Barely keeps up with GPS discharge.

Gonna try the Anker from Amazon next.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] angryapples300:
safe bet

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Charger-Galaxy-Note-Packaging/dp/B00CXADUE8

Cant go wrong with what the manufacturer recommends :p

i personally am on the fence if i should be oem .
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Badelhas:
The anker one looks great also and other users already tested...but I am thinking about ordering this one too (EDIT: read some reviews and dosent seem like the genuine one, beware!), along with the genuine samsung car holder for the S3 and S4 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-In-Car-Vehicle-Compatible-Galaxy/dp/B007Y94CPO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1381096863&sr=8-3&keywords=samsung+s4+car+holder

Anyone knows if this setup will work with the Spigen Slim Armor VIEW case?

I would like to be sure before ordering, I want to be able to use the front cover opened to the back and not having to take out the case but I dont know if it possible
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] calebcabob:
Best chargers you can buy!

Want the BEST charger brand??

ANKER!!!

Anker makes the absolute best! I even did frequency tests between both my Anker car charger and stock and the Anker wall charger and stock. My phone was getting the true and full 1900mAh on point with both when using Anker! That's the recommended frequency for the Galaxy S4.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] z50king:
TOP LEL.

Anyone who believes that the top one only charges Androids and the bottom one only charges Apple needs to keep buying Apple products because they are so much better.

After reading the reviews, this charger will not draw 4.2 amps from your system, rather it will draw 3.1 amps because the Android port only offers 1 Amp current.

Again, TOP LEL

---------- Post added at 01:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:36 AM ----------

The Belkin stuff comes from a factory right down the street in Shenzhen from the factory that makes that charger listed.

You cannot charge at 1.9 amps unless your phone is turned off. The phone needs to power itself while charging. Controlling the charging process takes power from charging
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
That might be the case with stock Touch Wiz kernels but I can assure you it's not the case with the kernel's I've run on Google Play Edition stock ROM's or with AOSP ROM's.

My phone charges at 1900mAh anytime it's turned on, even with music playing and GPS navigating and display set to 100% max brightness and turned on.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] z50king:
Can you show me a Battery Monitor Widget screen shot of your charging amperage during this use?

What charger are you using? You need 1.9 Amps plus whatever it is taking to power your full bright screen, say .6 Amps for all that? If you are using the 2 Amp charger, you are not charging at 1.9 Amps into the battery
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
lmao ok

-----bad link-------
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] PanchoPlanet:
???

Pp.

sent from my S4 as I replace spark plugs on my Ford Escape via bluetooth.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] z50king:
huh???

lolwut.jpg
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
Weird, the link changed or copied wrong. Well if you search my started threads for DIY motorcycle charger you'll find pics and relevant info.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
Here's the corrected link.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2357434

I use stock charger, HP charger and a couple of DIY chargers I built from parts purchased off eBay. All give me 1900mAh charge while phone is turned on. Gotta make sure you have a good cable though.

Pic.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] pika456:
is there any car charger that actually delivers more than 1A to s4?

or do we have to mess up with the cables?

I changed my 750mamp charger to 2A and still I get the same charging current

so with gps and music the phone barely charges.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] nikocc:
Oh, I have never heard about overcharging. I'll try it out in my car. Thanks for the hint.

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] shoutcast:
My phone will fluctuate between 1900 and 1200 .. but i also have a bluetooth kit attached to it.. i am on hyperdrive

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] z50king:
While it is turned off. Like I said, you aren't charging the battery at 1.9 Amps with the phone turned on
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] CZ Eddie:
Umm, the phone is drawing 1.9 amps of current while turned on.

The rest of your "debate" is electrical semantics.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] apeman81:
thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] heshamtecom:
I have used the Belkin one, very good and quite fast in charging
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Badelhas:
Can you please post the link of the charger?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] madman604:
the Monoprice Mini ones work well for me 2.1A
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] hainfelder:
maybe you are using the wrong USB cable - try the stock cable in your car - test again ... if the current is not stronger, than you probably bought a fake 2A charger ...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] pika456:
the charger is powerful, just the phone does not recognize it.

it requires extra voltage to data pins and only original charger does that
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Quiksmage:
Since there's a lot of discussion between mah output and the cables used, I thought I'd post my purchase I got last year from one of these threads and my success with it.

This anker charger has a cable already attached to it and outputs at 1.2-1.4 mah with the supplied cable.

http://www.amazon.com/Portable-Dual...9570073&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+android+charger (I got the white one with the cable built inside of it, but it shouldn't have any effect on charging just in case someone wants to buy exactly what i bought.)

when I plugged in the mediabridge cable below into the other slot, it would output 900-1100 mah. So, if you buy the above, plan on using the built in cable.

1.2-1.4 will let it charge quite well in the car even while having the screen on and using GPS. I could plug it in and drive somewhere for an hour with the screen and gps on and gain 20-25%

However, I assume that you, like me, wanted to get 1900 mah out of your charge like you would from the AC wall charger.

(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004U1Y3VC/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1)

Using the stock wall charger/cable with a power inverter plugged into the car, yielded me 1900 mah using the galaxy charging app.

The power inverter I linked also has a USB port, which I have not verified if it outputs 1900 mah using the stock cable. I have only tried the stock wall charger/cable combo to verify 1900. Does anyone know where you can buy the authentic stock charger/cable? I have 2 of each from a return early on where i forgot to bring them in.

If any of you have found a car charger/cable or combo that actually outputs 1900 mah, I'd like to see this as I've tried about 4 combos before I was happy with it.

Another (worse) option

was

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AAHRZI8/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

with

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009W34X5O/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

which yielded 1100 mah charge in both slots. This made no sense to me since since they're labeled as being different mah outputs on each port. regardless, those were my findings via galaxy charging app.

all of these options yield >1000 mah charge. Happy hunting.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] hainfelder:
Got me a wicked chili 3.1A charger - dual USB with short circuit / costum Data pins.

Charges full 1900mA with a pretty simple and long cable...
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] Annunneo:
I'm using an anker 2mA car charger. It has a coiled cable for android and another port for Apple devices but no apple cable included. It works great and charges fast and was only 10 bucks on amazon.
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] trekuhl:
another vote for anker. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D82O68Y/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

also have several of their batteries and external charger for multiple phones. their 18 month warranty is longer than most