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[Galaxy S 4 General] :
That's pretty rich, considering HTC One users proudly champion "Form over function" in every speech they give about their device. As a successful adult with a job that pays over x13 minimum wage, I prefer my tools to have more function, and I keep the form for my clothes, car, and things people will actually consistently see, instead of things tucked into my pocket.

But then again, that other stuff costs a lot more money, and when your measure of success hinges on one item, you tend to cut corners. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] tuxonhtc:
All the calibration issues should be fixed once Perseus releases for S4 (which should be pretty soon as Andreilux has the device now :) ) So that's not much of a negative. You should get terrific calibration with Perseus :) My Note II screen looks equally good, if not better than most of the 1080p/720p devices with Perseus.

And calling S4 a "kids toy" is absolutely ridiculous. The removable battery and expandable storage is far from "form over function".
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Yeah,that would solve the oversaturation issue completely,or whatever inaccuracies are there in display calibration.

As for screen this is the best AMOLED screen and the brightest one (it can reach 475nits ,which is quite same as one but with better levels of blacks,even though it would consume a lot of battery,thermals) ,btw useful under sunlight for a short period of time,so for my usage screen is better on S4, (mainly due to Best black levels, which is absent from One's screen and colour inaccuracies would be solved like the guy above said ,btw black levels cannot be improved on one)

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
Amazing! I never knew that. Where were you all these days?

BTW, which other places do you visit as part of your daily trolling routine?
[Galaxy S 4 General] chiefroastbeef:
Yes, one would hope that in 2013, no one will have to ever use a 64MB microSD card. You are indeed correct.

I would say that the otg microsd device, no matter how small, is still more pain in the rear than installing a microsd in the back of a phone. You can lose such a small piece of accessory(64GB microSD still aren't THAT cheap yet), and you have to plug and unplug to charge the battery (if phone has now wireless charging. And it just looks ugly..
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
I don't troll about serious stuff. I only troll about trivial stuff, like I did here, but then I make it obvious enough for people to get it is humor:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2225134

´

Just a hint. Whenever you see me make screen measurements, I am not trolling. Like here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2202869

I am very serious about screen quality.
[Galaxy S 4 General] hello00:
thats like saying the ny yankees kick red sock's butt..everyone is entitled to their opinions
[Galaxy S 4 General] rexisrex:
Exynos S4

I am from India and I am lucky to get the exynos octa...which right now is crippled as I am waiting for xdaians to unleash the beast... Having said that and having used the device for about a week now I will try and give honest feedback to some comments on the S4...any prejudice must be pardoned as I haven't even held a htc one in my hand...

1 build quality - I personally feel s4 is actually a good looking device( though I didn't honestly buy it for it looks alone) feels sturdy and extremely functional for a large screen it possess. gorilla 3 is wicked

2."PLASTIC"-- my personal take is that the plastic on s4 doesn't look cheap at all. I have used iPhone and it feels extremely cool for 1 month to have all that metallic jazz and shine and lo and behold it dawns on you..a lot of scratches and your shiny doesn't look shiny anymore. And the worst thing is you can't even change it but have to live with it....my note 1 back cover was replaced twice after it got scratched too badly...so S4 gives you the option to give it a new look if you want to..Becos it is plastic and bcos it is user changeable...

3 CPU /gpu honestly all the touchwiz lag will be history once our dear devs start working their magic...but after a weeks use I am for the first time getting used to touchwiz as there is no root and I can't remove bloat as yet...but since the hardware is beefy barring a few lag it is okay for the moment...no need for reboots at least and no fc yet...

4 camera is fantastic during day shot.. I'm not really a night person so night shots haven't been tested by me yet so can't comment on low light photos yet. But I like the camera UI...gives you the feel of new era point on shoot cameras...and you have lots of options for both fun and serious shoots...

5. Battery and sd card...already pointed out by many

6. Hardware iR remote blaster....many cool things are possible around this as the dev starts using this brilliant hardware

7.gimmics like air scroll, smart pause et all are good party tricks but not practical. May be they need software update to make it more intelligent

it has the hardware intact....as said earlier waiting for our devs to work on the software....once that is done this will be a beast to contain.....
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I think it's just fine the way it is. This title attracts more attention to it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
Yes she always seems to make interesting videos. I am not sure why she says LTE doesn't play a role though...With the kind of usage that she describes I can totally see LTE making a difference in terms of battery drainage and it could totally explain the 1 hour less of screen time she is observing or a good proportion thereof.

Regarding the GPU, I am curious about more opinions on this, GPU experts were writing in this forums that some games favour fill rate and others favour computations so that it will be heavily game dependent which GPU will have the upper hand because the liminting factor is different one each GPU.

For me the best reason to get the Exynos would be the hope that Supercurio can somehow enable the 96Khz sampling rate on the Wolfon DAC but even that would not be enough to make me lose LTE.

I think the Exynos can become a great device. Perhaps someone can explain to me why LTE is less relevant in the U.S. (I heard in passing about dual band achieving sufficient speed?).
[Galaxy S 4 General] Slai:
I don't need LTE myself until my provider can give me actual unlimited use with no strangling of speed (currently strangles after 5gig).
[Galaxy S 4 General] mobitote:
Just curious would the vzw s4 work on a gsm network or would the HTC one work with on cdma network? Thinking of jumping ship from vzw htc tbolt and get the s4 or HTC one but would like to stay on the vzw cdma network.

Or should I just wait and see what the next gen phones are like, given than I don't really have an absolute need to jump ship as I have tweaked my tbolt to work as best as possible.

Any ideas would be highly welcomed. Thanx
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
I have to agree. I follow this thread and am amazed how civil it has been. Some great info posted. I may not agree with everything posted but business analysis is not my field and they're clearly people here who know more than I in that area.

I do want to say though that I was right about a stock Android htc one :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] ohraii:
+1 for thinking this thread is interesting. I follow it, because of the great discussions that seem to be going on here. Also, for the knowledge on both of the phones/companies that you lovely people have provided. :thumbup:

Cheers! :beer:

Sent from my Ancient Atrix 4G.
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
You are not right until it's confirmed ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] fortesquieu:
I can convince you!

4 is better than One.

:highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
yes but i am sold it is coming. i personally think it would be a lesser phone without sense 5.

android central is coming out and saying it is a done deal.

http://www.androidcentral.com/google-edition-htc-one-coming-soon-vanilla-android
[Galaxy S 4 General] Slai:
These vanilla versions of One and S4; what will the impact be for those of us who have the standard One and S4?

I mean will I be able to flash my S4 with the stock android found on the Google ed?
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
Would seem logical. I am wondering if applications like S-Voice and S-Translator will continue working on the Google version. S-voice does install on my HTC One but won't start, while S-Translator does not start, but that was to be expected. But wondering about the Google edition because the hardware will be the same...
[Galaxy S 4 General] strip419:
Build quality= HTC one. Ergonomics= S4

Display= Tie. Software= S4. Camera= S4

Design= HTC one. Pure processing muscle= S4. Latest components (future ready) = S4. TRUSTED timely updates= S4. Simplicity of UI= HTC one. Sound quality= HTC one

Overall winner S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Manoj143:
That summerizes the things...i would add low light pics-htc one...sound- htc one...but those are not dealbreaker for me personally...going to buy s4...:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] strip419:
I would love to own both of em.

HTC one when am with ladies, and the S4 when with my guys.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Just ordered an S4 GT-I9500!
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
http://www.slashgear.com/htc-ones-big-brother-tipped-with-5-inch-screen-24283514/

Nothing new, just further confirmation that the One formula (aluminium+boomsound+blinkfeed) is being propagated to other sizes.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gemini002:
Lol

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No way man keep the name ...that's part of the magic..btw HTC has been pushing lots of updates recently...rumored 4.2.2 weeks away from being pushed out...Also carriers are pushing updates out quickly too:D:beer:
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Like what?
[Galaxy S 4 General] deathnotice01:
Don't argue with Taylor_Swift,

She's Taylor_Swift

Enviado desde un Samsung Galaxia S Cuatro LTE
[Galaxy S 4 General] jj03:
Like the htc ones design, but i find myself being quite drawn to the s4's looks...after a while, its good looks really jumped out at me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] teiva:
I'm enjoying this thread. There's been many interesting points made for both phones. Personally I chose the ONE because I preferred the interface and it felt right to me. Both phones are awesome in their own ways. On a sidenote I doubt I'd get the ONE if it was just a plain stock android version. I actually like Sense. My wife, she prefers the Samsungs, so when she upgrades to the S4 from her S2 I'll get to play with that. Interestingly, if I were to go for the S4, I'd want to get the 8 core. We don't have 4G in our city.

At the end of the day the most important part of buying either phone is to enjoy your purchase, so enjoy it :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
At this rate (ordering phones), I doubt you can have the same signature for even a month :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Lol!
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
I would say better to wait for 4.3, and forget about 4.2.2.

I think 4.2.x degraded the performance compared to 4.1.x

You can search it in any forum, and you will see that 4.2 launch was plagued with bugs. Even the subsequent 1./.2 updates didn't resolve these issues. Many to this date still complain about laggy behaviour in N7 in 4.2 compared to 4.1

Hopefully 4.3 would resolve these issues.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
4.2 is definitely the "worst" jellybean version. Battery life isn't great and few bugs here and there.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Slai:
If that's the case my battery will be insane after an upgrade.
[Galaxy S 4 General] valentinrascu:
The one has the gallery app with all fotos from Facebook, and is impossible to eliminate once you install Facebook... I try to eliminate but is impossible without root! WTF!!! HTC!!

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 General] schrickm5:
What about the new drivers for the GPU on 4.2, GLES 3.0. It's not long ago everyone was waiting in anticipation for the One's GPU to come up to it's potential.
[Galaxy S 4 General] strip419:
I don't get it when people say the s4 is ugly. The S3 was called pretty by reviewers, so how the hell does the S4 look bad, that metal looking plastic band is too gorgeous. Down here in Ghana the S4(16GB) cost 1650 cedis, that's about $850 and it comes with a 64GB sdcard. Saving up for it.:D:rolleyes::p
[Galaxy S 4 General] JediMindTrixx:
They are both great phones. If you've done any kind of research on the phones, which you probably have... You already know which one you want. Have fun! I personally have a GS4.

Sent from a Galaxu S4... Far, Far, Away... using xda-developers app
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
Like having your rom thread closed for Kanging. Oh wait that's not a phone problem
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Huh?

edit: nevermind, I understand what you mean lol.
[Galaxy S 4 General] schrickm5:
Double huh?
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
That's not a big deal, just root the damn thing :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] qkevinto:
Even though I don't own the HTC One, I know that it will feel rock solid in your hands compared to the Samsung Galaxy S4 as I own a HTC Desire HD and aware of their build quality and design.

Personally I'm a fan of slightly heavier and thicker phones as they seem have better ergonomics and feel great in the hand. When I first unboxed my S4 I swear it felt like the most fragile phone I have ever held, coming from the rock solid Desire HD (and the kickass Otterbox Commuter case I always had on it).

I was in the same situation, being a HTC fan, deciding between the One and the S4. The decision became dead simple though.

My Desire HD lasted me 2.5 years, why? Not because of the build quality alone, no. It still looks brand new and works great though because I take good care of my devices and had an Otterbox Commuter on it since the start. You know what they say, if you like it, you gotta put a case on it, or something like that. The reason why it lasted me 2.5 years is because it has a removable battery. Just imagine, 2 years down the track, if your phone died in about 6 hours because the battery is crapping itself from being charged a few thousand times, I would throw the thing off a bridge. Would be too frustrating and infuriating to use, not reliable enough. All I had to do was buy another battery. Made my Desire HD last almost an extra year before I purchase this S4. Great value for money.

The moment I found out the S4 had a removable battery the deal was done. As plasticy and flimsy as the phone feels, it's now in an Otterbox Commuter case too and handles quite well so it doesn't bother me. At least I know that sometime in the next 2 years, this phone will not be dying on me half way through my day. I hate TouchWiz, but my S4 stayed unrooted for less than 48 hours after me receiving it. Now it's rooted and I disable and remove whatever the hell I want. It's as smooth as it can get. That's the great thing about Android. Pick device that'll last you and flash it with something wonderful. Mix and match. Make it yours. Really enjoying my S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Great post, like how you explained your experience and why you chose the phone you have.
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
In my opinions, the ergonomics of the S4 is far better than any device (with 4.5 inch+ screen size) I've ever hold (yes, HTC devices was there too), due to it's design and part of it due its lighter weight.

When I hold it in my hand I don't need to struggle after a few minutes and change position or hold it otherwise since it's just fit perfect in my hand.

After two weeks I'm still not using a case (I never, never dropped any device I own :p) and I think I'll keep it that way :silly:

Just wanted to share my experience with the S4's build quality and ergonomics of the device :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] RCJ89:
Totally agree about the way the S4 feels, the s4 feels much better to hold in the hand than the HTC One imo
[Galaxy S 4 General] shox22:
So why did you send it back? Too much a Samsung-Guy?
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I guess so. Again i love the HTC One and nothing wrong with the phone, something wrong with me lol, too much of a phone addict. Plus yeah, i have a soft spot for Samsung products and yesterday a girl that i was hanging out with told me how she was crazy about the S4 her friend has blah blah blah so she pretty much sold me on the damn thing and i did a spontaneous decision to sell the One and get the S4. I also got it at a very nice price and if for some reason i don't like it, itll be easy to sell and get back to the One ( but i doubt it'll happen).
[Galaxy S 4 General] ap3604:
Hey puremind I'd like your opinion since you know so much about the screen dimming issue on the S4,

If you had to choose between the S4 and the Optimus G Pro... which one would you go with?

Both have the same cutting edge specs like 1080p screen, snapdragon 600, removable battery, and Micro SD card slot but ATM I'm leaning towards the Optimus G Pro due to:

- LCD IPS screen instead of AMOLED

- No screen dimming issue (as far as I can tell from users and reviews)

- No lag issue (as far as I can tell from users and reviews)

- 32 GB standard

- On sale for $99 w/ 2yr contract

- I personally don't have a problem with the size
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
You will be pleased to know HTC have confirmed that they are looking into making the volume buttons wake up the phone.

Two different panel ID's on the One:

JDI: accurate colors and slightly warm white balance becomes bluish after a couple of weeks

Sharp (since May production): better contrast, more saturated colors, more neutral whites, slightly iummer (~400cd/m²)

Blinkfeed is the best newsfeed. Period. Allows an at a glance view that combines multiple categories into a pleasing format. With the update it will be even greater. That's purely great software execution.

Also good to know is the fact that the notification bar toggles will make an appearance on the One with the 4.2.2 update (since it is a 4.2.2 feature).

It is also something that HTC is looking into for the 4.2.2 update.

You can download a custom ROM which allows you to tap the logo (first couple of pixels on the screen) for menu. It works great.

Try pinching a home screen, then you can add apps directly. ;)

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You seem to like decisions being made for you rather than impressing on others. You should try dating guys. Girls won't give you the level of guidance and robustness that you need. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
This is quite astonishing that everyone keeps talking about lag in GS4.

How do you guys define lag?

Technically it's the delay/time gap between a user input to the output. How can there be any system without lag? Even if you take multi-million enterprise class systems with insane specs, you will still get delay in IO processing.

Do you expect me to believe that some of your favorite phones have no lag?? No AOSP, no code, no kernel, nothing can eliminate the lag.
[Galaxy S 4 General] shox22:
I think its more about the fps of the ui and just in some cases the input lag (homebutton/homescreen, appdrawer, dialer, phonebook, messenger app).

The S4´s software is not as fluid as it should be
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
Who cares about small, imperceptile lags? Who doesn't care about plainly annoying lags? It is all about tolerance levels.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gemini002:
Huh?? Each there own..I can admit that camera on the s4 takes better outdoor shots so how can u say the one does not feel better in the hand??say u like the features or the screen better or sd card but cmon to say the S4 feels better:what:
[Galaxy S 4 General] rakeshishere:
The button layout of the HTC One sucks in my opinion. I know it takes time getting used to but HTC has ruined it me in this matter.

In their earlier phones they had 4 buttons, then 3 and now 2 with awkward placement and learning curve. Double tapping the button (tedious, slow) to bring multi tasking menu is outright stupid.

Atleast the galaxy flagships have had some standard in the button layout right from the beginning. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
The next update will fix the button layout issue (wake up device with volume button). Some custom Kernels already do this. Also the HTC logo can be tapped to act as a menu button.

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The Optimus G is a great device, has a thin bezel, great screen and performance. You can't go wrong with it. If you enjoy the larger display and don't mind the size, this is the best phone at the moment.

Of course Samsung and HTC will have something to say about this in the next few weeks with their respective 5"+ devices but if you can't wait, go for it!
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
So you're mad cause I went with the S4? You get emotional cause someone else gets another phone? I think you should double check your sexual preference. Reported your dumb a$$.
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
I am offended that you took what I said as an insult. It was a candid reaction and friendly advice born from many years of observing people.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I don't care if you're offended. You shouldn't post comments like this in the first place and you don't know me personally. obviously she wasn't the only reason why I went with the S4 but that would have been too long of a post.
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
I don't understand what you mean by "like this". When i don't like my picture in a mirror I don't destroy the mirror.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Good for you. And I see you're being a little smart ass. I'm not going to waste my time on you. Cheers.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ste1164:
Wow already :P I honestly don't care you returned it use the device you will enjoy the most but wow that was quick :P still going to get the note 3?
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I know right! Check my signature, I go through phones quick. I got the S4 I9500 at a great price that I wont say but let see how it goes. The One is an awesome phone but I couldn't pass on this opportunity. "Worse" case scenario, I don't like the S4 and I can sell it much higher than I got it for and buy another One.

Yes absolutely for the Note 3.
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
I guess you didn't see the ";)" in my original post. I was merely amused at your comment and I admit also a bit intrigued. Now with your reaction I am even more intrigued, but don't pay attention to me, I study mentalism so sometimes I make observations that are just blunt and some are just bluff to uncover another layer and situate further.

It is a bit your fault, though. If you didn't have that compulsive purchasing behavior, I wouldn't have taken an interest in the first place. :D

But as I said, don't pay attention to me. I am a curious mind, I get easily intrigued by behaviors that I can't situate.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I did see that and it doesn't matter. I didn't like your comment and i'm letting you know. Again I don't care what you study or what not, you don't know me personally but since you think you do then I wont argue with you. Peace.
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
As I said "some are just bluff to uncover another layer and situate further." That's the whole point of mentalism, you sometimes have to feign knowing and observe reactions to interpolate truth. I find it fun but it is a bit crual, I guess. And here is not a good place :)

Again, do not pay attention to me, my curiosity got ahead of me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I don't know what part of " I don't care" you didn't understand. Can we talk about the devices now Dr Phil?
[Galaxy S 4 General] puremind:
I pay more attention to behaviours than I pay attention to words, I guess. True meaning is rarely wrapped into words. I said "don't pay attention to me" 3 times and yet you did. :D

Stop making me do things you don't like! Ignore me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Believe it or not, I was waiting for you to say this at some point in the conversation. You must be a young man, you think you're smarter than people but you lack a little bit of maturity. At least that's what I feel from you.