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[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
Hello everyone - my first post here.

It occured to me that if we could make the XDA2 talk to a hard disk we could fit a big drive in the car and then use the power connector to create communication between the pda and the drive.

Is this possible?

We'd need a new skin for the windows media player with huge simple, finger sized buttons to press to access the different folders and tracks. We would also need a pair of phono outs to go into the car hifi audio input.

Also it would be nice to have a hardware button which would fire everything up so the sequence would be : get in car, clip xda into holder and hit a button. Then you've got 120gb worth of music at your fingertips and if you've got wifi card in there you can take data from your house pc wirelessly and store it on the car's hdd!!! Just awesome.

Any ideas how hard this would be. I would be prepared to pay for development because as a car audio shop owner (www.audiolectrics.co.uk if you are interested!) I reckon we could sell these systems as PDA's like XDA are just phenomenal units - I have had mine now for a week or so and am just bowled over by it!!
[General Topics] Yorch:
the skins in the windows media website are huge enough to use it with your fingers.

or you can try the latest PocketMusic which rocks
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
Good stuff but how could I add a hard disc drive to it using only the pin outs for usb in the lower charging connector?
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
Actually I have a sneaky suspicion that the XDA2 won't function as a usb host which is a big problem.

Any ideas? Its' odd because obviously it works 2 way comms when active sync-ing.
[General Topics] josedias:
HD in the XDA II

The festesting way to adding a HD in the XDA II.

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/index.php?action=expand,27981
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
Yes but this is not convenient since you've got to keep taking the xda out of its case.

No, what I need is a wireless hard drive the xda can talk to or a way of making the xda a usb2 host.

Nobody got any ideas?
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
AHA!!!!

Had a sneaky idea.

What if I buy a backpack and insert a RATOC Compact flash USB host adaptor and plug this into a huuuuuuge USB drive.

Then, make up a cable that connects the xda2 to the BACKPACK which will be hidden out of sight in the car - I presume the XDA talks to the backpack via only the ordinary connectors.

I presume it isn't possible to make a lead up that would connect to a compact flash usb host WITHOUT the backpack - ie that the backpack contains some circuitry?
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
OK This will work for sure.

I just need someone to photograph the backpack connector where it joins the unit so I can get an idea of the engineering needed.
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
And one more thing - can I get proper sound output from the main connector of the unit rather than the headphone jack?
[General Topics] Rudegar:
it would work if the drivers work ok i suppose

about the audio then all you should need is the connector pin out of xda2 somebody gave them once try search
[General Topics] k_kirk:
Seems like there are few individuals actively pursuing this idea. See thread below :

http://softwareforums.intel.com/ids/board/message?board.id=43&message.id=84
[General Topics] k_kirk:
There is also at least one Bluetooth harddisk solution

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=HOPBIT

I recently saw an announcement for a similar product using Wifi instead of Bluetooth. This could be an easier option. Simpply bring the XDAII to your car with the SDIO WiFi card in it and pull the files via WiFi from the Storage Server (err... harddisk)...
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
OK!

Asus are just about to release their wireless Hard Disk drive! This will have an ftp style interface that will allow password encryption etc so this job looks simple with one of these!

Can anyone help with getting the windows media player sound out on the main connector?
[General Topics] The Hobbit:
hd

i recently baught a usb 2.0 laptop hard drive case its 2.5 inches small enough to try and convert it to use on the xda2 see link

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/cablesonline/usb2025inlah.html
[General Topics] k_kirk:
Yup. Managed to find a reference to this WiFi disc enclosure. Sounds like this will do the job nicely!!!

http://www.asus.com/news/2004/20040311.htm
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
So Mr Hobbit - we've still got to get XDA2 to talk to the USB though without the backpack for car useage.

This is where the WIFI disk comes in. Chuck it under a seat and feed it juice and hay preso 10000 songs accessible from your XDA control panel.

I love it.

Still need the audio pin outs on the main connector though?

Anyone?
[General Topics] Rudegar:
after a quick search in the forum

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3929&highlight=bluetooth+mp3
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
thanks for that - must admit i don't fully understand what the definitive pin outs are! Could you translate into english for me!! Much appreciated in advance......(!)
[General Topics] Nick_C:
I have another Suggestion for the Connection of a Hard Drive to your XDA.

How about connecting up an Ethernet Harddisk such as the one below to a WIFI Access unit or router ( these usually have a 4 port Ethernet Hub built in ) which will be installed permanently in the car ( wired through 12v/240inverter )

http://www.softjam.co.uk/products/index.php?prodref=CU-XIMMNE1040&timestmp=1085611877282

This should enable you to access this harddisk over WIFI with the XDA+SD Wifi card?

You`ll then also be able to upload music to your cars Hardisk jukebox whilst its parked on your driveway.

This is what I plan to try anyway ( except I`ll probably add the Backpack so that I can Stream Divx movies from the HardDisk over the Wifi through the XDA2 through the backpage out the VGA Out into my Alpine 7" motorised display ) Fingers Crossed Tomtom will display on the screen also??? we shall see.

I still have to come up with a solution for the sound though as the mini jack is just too arkward.
[General Topics] bejay:
personal wifi ap

Hi Guys

The network hard drive looks like a great idea..... combined with one of these http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=112376 youve got as much portable storage as you could want.
[General Topics] akira:
This maybe of your intrest

isnt this the back of the xda 2?

http://www.xda-developers.com/xda2/xda2naked.jpg

so it has a IMAGEON 3200 videoprocesor?

this processor has many features and one is

USB On-The-Go (OTG): IMAGEON 3200 is the first integrated co-processor to offer USB OTG (On-The-Go) - a new standard that connects two USB devices directly. USB On-The-Go is designed for mobile interconnectivity by allowing a USB device to communicate with other USB peripherals (such as printers) without the need to go through a PC.
[General Topics] henny:
if the above post is true , that the xda2 has USB On-The-Go (OTG)

has anyone tried the following

take a usb device and using a gender changer or diy cable conect it to the xda2 and see if it does anything. good bad or otherwise

just a thought , probably wont work but what the hell its worth a try

ian
[General Topics] akira:
i still think we need a usb on the go driver from the mass storage device hdd

or whatever
[General Topics] henny:
there is some general mass usb storege drivers out there ive seen them

ill have a look and put links here

ian
[General Topics] Xant:
Yes the imageon has USB OTG, but it is not wired out.

The USB you connect to is the one from the XScale processor.

In modern multiprocessor systems they use USB and UARTs on the PCB to easy connect between devices, that's why the imageon has the USB OTG, this is not for common data-application...

The GSM part is also hocked up with a UART to the XScale.
[General Topics] unapproachable2kx:
Hi guys!

Can you post the link for the mass storage drivers?

Also can you explain more for: "In modern multiprocessor systems they use USB and UARTs on the PCB to easy connect between devices, that's why the imageon has the USB OTG, this is not for common data-application... "

Give a look at http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=43585#43585 please,maybe you can answer some of my questions.

Thanx!
[General Topics] izeman:
@all

i use a harddisk mp3 player in my car already, and i don't know why i didn't think about using the ppc for that purpose. ;)

i have the ppc in it's holder and connected to the handsfree via bluetooth and via serial to the gps receiver. so a connection to an external harddisk would make sense. navigating through 20k mp3 songs with a touchscreen and a big display would surely be fun. i don't know if there is any already working software for that. (normaly pdas don't have more than a few mp3 installed - so proper movement through the collection is not needed).

one thing i'd like to state is, that first priority should be usability - means that there should be no need to insert a seperate wifi card or similar every time you enter the car. so the best idea would be to use bluetoothor serial connection. just keep that in mind.

regards ize|man
[General Topics] Rudegar:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/usbmassstoragedriver.shtml

usb massstoragedriver

but once more you can ofcause not use it unless you have a true master interface for the xda because the usb connected to the buttom connector of the xda dont support master so it cant talk to anybody unless a master
[General Topics] izeman:
@all:

i'm just from a ride with my car, and i say:

I MUST HAVE THAT *g*

i think a ppc mp3 player with a min of 40gig mp3s would be marvelous ..... *dream*

regards ize|man
[General Topics] Julian Thompson:
Agreed.

I have it working now in the house on the wireless network and can stream audio from upstairs from my music library of 80 GB!

Which is nice..

BUT!

Problem 1)

I cannot find any MP3 player that will buffer the streaming download at a rate just ahead of the playback. WithMP3 works well but if you use the cache and make it complete the download before playback you have a couple of minute wait between tracks. If you remove the caching you are stuffed and get stuttering during playback.

Any help on this?

Problem 2)

Still can't find the audio outs in the main connector so that I connect it easily to the car's audio.
[General Topics] boobee:
This might be quite interesting.. -> http://www.anypakusa.com/
[General Topics] umetnic:
Great Link, boobee!

I wonder if this could work with XDAll...? I mean, what motorola got, that we don't... ;)
[General Topics] izeman:
@boobee

that really sounds like a solution for us. why should it work only on toshiba devises? or do they have a different usb hub installed? if not i should only be another connector....

but then i wonder if the usb drive AND my serial gps mouse would work at the same time .....

regards ize|man
[General Topics] izeman:
hmmmm

just read that:

For all USB drivers and applications you need to have a PPC with USB host functionality like Casio E200, Toshiba e740/e335/e750 and a few more. Please double check prior to download any package.

i think this disqualifies our xdaII, right? can anyone confirm that?

regards ize|man
[General Topics] boobee:
I'm sorry, not being a techie guy I can't answer correctly why this can't be done.. Maybe, like many of us said, it's a USB host matter (the XDA2 can't be set as master but only as a slave for other peripherals aka PC) while internal usb host capabilities are limited to bus connection of all integrated peripherals (gsm module, bluetooth module, etc..) to let them speak together.. and I suppose there's no "routing" from the inside to reach our external usb, while toshiba seems to support this on their pda.

So I think we're still far from wondering if we'll be able to connect more than one device :wink:
[General Topics] Rudegar:
well there are CF cards with usb ports

and maybe it's possible to use those if

one have the backpack which have a CF slot

of cause the size of the investment inc

with having to buy backpack, cf usb card and external hd
[General Topics] boobee:
and many.. MANY drivers issues :( :( :(
[General Topics] izeman:
hmmm i guess using the backpack with pcmcia hd connector would surely work.

i'm just wondering why i can't find any HOPBIT bluetooth hd case anywhere to buy. does it use a 2.5 laptop hd? or some kind of microdrive ???

if so bt is limited in it's bandwidth. it's below 1mbit/s. so it should be fast enough for playing mp3s - but transfering files would be a pain in the a**. and playback of video or searching thru a lot of file would also be very slow.

what do you think?

regards ize|man
[General Topics] izeman:
@all

i just got reply mail from the author (DeJe) of the USB driver for the toshiba pdas. he said that his driver probably would work on MDA, but because the MDA has no USB HOST it's a definite NOT. :(

sorry for that news - but i guess most of us already knew that anyway

regards ize|man
[General Topics] izeman:
and me again :)

mda backpack is no solution :( i just realized that you have to remove the battery cover and permanently install the backpack. i thought of installing the backpack with pcmcia adapter permanently in the car, and then clip in the mda when entering the car.

but that won't work :(

so 2 solutions are no real solution:

.) backpack: ugly and no easy removeable

.) bluetooth : too slow

what a mess...

regards ize|man
[General Topics] henny:
an idea

take 1 old ish laptop, buried in boot or somewhere , with gigs of mp3's then vire either usb,wifi,bluetooth just use the xda as a remote , either vire vnc, tcip or http, then alll proccessing , audio storage is left to the laptop leeving you pda runtime free to do its stuff
[General Topics] Rudegar:
well with 12GB mmc cards and also pretty big sd cards around people can still have a few mp3 files on their systems
[General Topics] boobee:
12gb?! :shock: :shock: :shock: where? I WANT ONE!!

I heard bout 2gb and standardized as MMC4, which no one knows its compatibility with xda2, and 12gb CF which I think are still prototypes until now.. but this would mean backpack again..

henny>

we even have the excellent RemoteAmp -> http://www.smashcasi.com/remoteamp/ and it works very well via activesync usb/bluetooth. A friend has in his car a small pc with an Epia mini-itx motherboard (see http://www.mini-itx.com/store/ ), a DC-to-DC PSU with stabilizers and crancking protection, and he drive this all via a symbian (banned word here? :lol: ) P900 and a remoteamp-like software called BeMused. Pda is used here just for seeking/playing songs, and shutdown of the mini PC, and, believe me, that's amazing!
[General Topics] Rudegar:
my bad i confused to big flash cards which both were way out of my budget :)
[General Topics] izeman:
and even if there were 12gig flash cards (which are NOT) - what are 12gigs ??

far too less. i need 60gig at least to have the important mp3 stuff with me ;) that way only harddisk based solutions would work.

another idea already mentioned : why not look for a bt remote accessed mp3 player. that would do the job as well. even if having a BIG hd connected to the pda would have other benefits as well (movies, all navigation maps installed ....)

regards ize|man
[General Topics] Kriss:
Well, actually I'm more interested to look at it in another way: I would like my XDA2 to control my Archos 380 MP3/video-player so I can hide this latter out of sight. The advantage is I don't need extra copies of my files on an in-car-fixed HDD but I can take my audio 'to go'.

An extra issues that would rise is how to combine the audio from the Archos 380 with the sound of the XDA2 phone. Do car-radios exist with multiple inputs? or should I put an audio-mix-table in between??

rgds
[General Topics] umetnic:
What about this little thingy? ;)

It weights only 25g and has a 2.0 USB 2,2G storage...

http://digital.brando.com.hk/products/disk4u/index.html

Can we use that with XDAII? ;)
[General Topics] izeman:
definetly NO. you can't use any "slave" usb device. you always need master and slave.

pc (master) <-> mda (slave) works but

mda (slave) <-> usb hd (slave) won't work.

this is a bit simplified, and terminolgy may not be correct, but i guess you get what i mean. :)

and btw: 2.2 gig is far to small. (that are 3.5 cd-rs ... if i wanted that little space i could use my mp3 cd-headunit in my car ;)

regards ize|man
[General Topics] aceangel:
All you have to do is make a USB master device, and use that as the middle man between the USB host devices. :lol:
[General Topics] izeman:
aceangel.

ok. pls report back as soon as you made such a nice thing ;)

regards ize|man
[General Topics] aceangel:
Hehe, by that I mean build a hidden box w/ a cheap 533 MHz mini-ITX motherboard w/ a usb port ($50-$130) and attach your XDA 2 to it.

What I've been wondering is if it is possible to use your pocket pc as a monitor for the mini computer.

Of course, this would probably defeat the purpose of using your XDA 2. Still, it would definitely roll eyes ;)
[General Topics] Rudegar:
you can using windows terminal services
[General Topics] UK badboy:
I was thinking- if you had a laptop hdd in a Hard Drive Enclosure Case with usb and firewire is there any device that would act as a host in between this and XDA? You could easily get something like this:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3820982730&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1

But its bulky and fairly expensive...
[General Topics] Rudegar:
well a pc could be host or another pda which does support host it could then ir or bluetooth the files not all that fast though
[General Topics] UK badboy:
What about something like this:

http://www.xs-drive.com/xsdrivepro/

Would this act as host for direct usb connection?
[General Topics] UK badboy:
Do you think something like this would act as a host and connect directly via USB?

http://www.xs-drive.com/xsdrivepro/
[General Topics] PAiko:
Image Tank G1 would that work? (could it be the master?)

And how about my 20 GB Image Tank G1;

would it be possible to use it with my MDAII?

http://www.image-tank.com/englisch/e_frame.html
[General Topics] mva245:
I don´t think the image tank and xs drive have a master usb connection. you have to insert your memorycard Not too convenient.

If we only could find a USB hub with master connection, then possibilities would be:

- adding of usb harddisk with right driver for PDA for external storage

- usb webcam as monitor for parking, looking behind car.

- printer connection

- usb audio speakers, usb microphone

- connecting your usb photocamera to the pda and usb harddisk to view/download pictures

etcetera

Why don´t manufacturers want this to work? It would make the pda too efficient and we wouldn´t buy all the functionality seperately. So it won´t be supported by software, and not by hardware (yet).

Michael
[General Topics] unapproachable2kx:
Are you crazy?? noo...first you must buy the Backpack and some other accessories..If not,how the company earn money??

Anyway..I am going to buy a Backpack,wifi sd card and a cf 2.2gb..

Someone know where can I order a Leather case supporting for my brick? with backpack included..

I've found something in past but don't saved the link.
[General Topics] ReflexNPG:
Hi!

i have a solution - its the WlHdd from Asus. With 80 GB, Wlan, Usb, Ethernet and running Linux on it. Just take a Wifi Card and enjoy..
[General Topics] MenaceFOP3:
USB Host CF Card

I don't know if anyone mentioned this before, but there is a 'quite' foolproof way of doing it.

Due to a search I stumbled across this: http://www.ratocsystems.com/english/products/subpages/cfu1u.html

Seems to me that adding host capabilities to a Pocket PC using the device above shouldn't be too much of an issue. Adding a hub and some 'beefy' HDD or maybe even a usb CDROM/DVDROM might worth the 139 bucks (the price tag on this)

Furthermore, there are already device drivers compatible with Linux, but after reviewing those, it shouldn't be too much of an issue to convert the code for use with Windows Mobile. (at least for me that is 8) )

I'll test the theory soon enough after my summer vac and I'll keep you posted.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
I've tried Sir deathnotice01 guide on advance theming, but when i flash my framework-res.apk, nothing happen? why? HELP!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] sanny5:
Mount system before flash...

And tell wat exactly u did??

All steps that u did ... Not wat is in the guide u followed :)

.................I Walk In Shadows...!..................
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] deathnotice01:
can you provide more information on the steps and codes you added also what tools you have used?

i would certainly be more that happy to assist, all i need is the right information
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
Yes, I mount the system.

I followed this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2018688 :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
1. Decompile FRAMEWORK-RES.apk

2. Navigate to res/values/styles.xml

search for this

Code:

<style name="Theme">

3. Again from res/values/styles.xml

search for this

Code:

<item name="colorBackground">@color/colorBackground</item>

delete the line and replace it with this

Code:

<item name="colorBackground">@color/transparent</item>

4. Create a PNG with dimensions of 240x301px (240 width 301 height by pixels) save it as deathnotice_bg.png save to res/drawable-ldpi

5. Again from res/values/styles.xml

search for this

Code:

<item name="windowBackground">@drawable/screen_background_dark</item>

6. Delete the entire line then replace with this

Code:

<item name="windowBackground">@drawable/deathnotice_bg</item>

7. Recompile APK

Sir I follow this step and recompile my framework-res.apk well. I used ApkMulti-Tool, and my ROM is miniROM s3_inspired :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] deathnotice01:
hmm,

did you sign the apk?

i don't recommend apkmulti-tool,

please try using VTS Studio,

it's much much better
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] sanny5:
Hmm try using # code insted of image resource for transparence...

Cause last time i had tried it had mot worked with image but # code worked...

This guide looks a bit different though.. Should tru this...

And yes use vts :p

.................I Walk In Shadows...!..................
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
thanks sir. can i know what is the hex code for 70% transparency? :victory:
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] deathnotice01:
you just make a image with 70% transparency then declare them with the code
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
Sir that's what I do :) But like what I said, nothing happen :(
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] Minions_Army:
#70000000

i think this hex code for 70% transparan

sir deathnotce01 rights

u must make a png with 70% transparant

btw try to use vts or apk manager to decompile apk
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] ryan_joshua:
Thanks bro. But styles.xml don't accept hex code :)
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 and Duos 6102 Q&A, Help & Troubl] deathnotice01:
the background is not located in styles,

it's in drawable.xml and declared as a png file
[LG Optimus 3D] HenrikSwe:
Hello!

I am in the process of installing dual boot on my Optimus 3D. I have successfully format my external SD card. However when i try to install a CM10 ROM in TWRP it get an error right in the begining of the process. It says it is "error 7". After that the flashing stops.

Do anyone have a solution for this?

Sincerely Henrik
[LG Optimus 3D] zak53:
edit the updater-script

ON META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script

with Notepad++

and remove this line

assert(getprop("ro.product.device") == "p920" || getprop("ro.build.product") == "p920");

:good:
[LG Optimus 3D] HenrikSwe:
Thank you!

That took care of the problem.
[AT&T LG Optimus G] adfurgerson:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2044414

Sounds very useful.