yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] bliizzz:
is it jsut the camera thats redesigned, [MENTION=4452972]chaleen[/MENTION] any ways very good work :)
[Nexus 4 General] Kaemo:
No. GMail is getting a redesign as well. I assume the new Maps will arrive with 4.3 too.
[Nexus 4 General] downwiththebanksters:
Is the N4 actually available in any retailer, or the Google Play store in Thailand?
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
Great work! Do you notice any other changes?
[Nexus 4 General] TheRom:
I think opening camera is much faster.
[Nexus 4 General] chaleen:
This is all the information.

I do not have any other information.
[Nexus 4 General] xtop:
is there a reason you didn't post the source to the video and recorded a video playing on your computer instead? or are you just looking for a bunch of hits for adsense revenue?
[Nexus 4 General] heat361:
Do you see any more changes in 4.3? If so please take more pictures :)
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
$ tar cvf /sdcard/system.tar /system
[Nexus 4 General] newtonfb:
we need a system dump!! lol

Someone needs to get this soon somehow right..?
[Nexus 4 General] chaleen:
It's a video of a friend, I can not download a video from Facebook.

I filmed it with a mobile phone.

This's master video https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152246770440639
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Links not working
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
hey guys, here's the original video:

https://plus.google.com/114407047151124665196/posts/4UigKrriKhE
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
Less guys ask for system dump more guys tell how to obtain a system dump?
[Nexus 4 General] chaleen:
You must Sign in Group before. https://www.facebook.com/groups/galaxynexusclub/.

You can watch videos.
[Nexus 4 General] BatteryCro:
Here it is on youtube, unfortunately in low quality.

http://youtu.be/t8jud8WC1E0
[Nexus 4 General] jebatkun:
i think this group using thai as their main language..i dont understand :)
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
adb pull /system pulls system into easily readable files.

adb shell dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system of=/sdcard/system.img makes it into a system.img you can flash with fastboot. I think those require root unless you're in recovery though.
[Nexus 4 General] hamad138:
So ugly nerd holo design stays?

Google need to remove the nerd holo dark design and make a bright light ui which is simple and not nerd like android stock.

A normal person insists nexus 4 is too difficult to use
[Nexus 4 General] chaleen:
Thank you for new upload
[Nexus 4 General] jebatkun:
im quite impressive how fast to switch on camera apps. furthermore,the countdown timer is a great feature that should have.. lets hope that google can improve the quality of the picture taken:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
The odd thing is that the date on the kernel version is May 14, that day before Google I/O... I wonder if they were supposed to debut it then but pulled it at the last minute
[Nexus 4 General] BravoMotorola:
The dark ui with the blue is not "nerdy", it actually looks super classy. Im guessing they havent changed it yet because it still looks super smooth and ahead of its time, almost futuristic if you ask me.
[Nexus 4 General] cyberon:
Totally agree with you. :)

Guys at Thailand, go get a system dump fast, that device won't be there for long. :D
[Nexus 4 General] newtonfb:
what he said
[Nexus 4 General] fordraimo:
Before the Google police come and take it haha :D
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
Lol I doubt whoever's displaying it would be too happy to see someone standing there with their laptop plugged into it running commands. But hey if he can pull it off that would be awesome....:D
[Nexus 4 General] iowabeakster:
Maybe... if they did that, it was the right thing to do.

Because google really tried to make this I/O all about better serving the needs of developers... not the wishes of simple end consumers.

A new release of android system (4.3) does not really serve the needs of the developers. Google spent the whole conference showingtheir new APIs, IDE, developers console features, and especially how updated APIs were enabled through the new google play services app WITHOUT needing a newer adroid release.

This was the big news, and releasing a new android version would have completely stole the show, from that which was the biggest, most important change in the android ecosystem ever... a way of eliminating the fragmentation issues which has been a thorn in the side of app developers till last week.

I think they really wanted all of the developers to know... we want you developing for this platform and are making your life much easier. El GOOG can't do a damn thing about the OEMs and the carriers screwing their customers out of updates... but at least your apps will run on a phone that isn't getting updated as it should.

And they'll release "consumer" news and hype out at some other time... like updates to android (for only those few nexus devices) and new hardware.
[Nexus 4 General] Aerys:
I think the device is no longer there tomorrow:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
We hope you're wrong, but I'm not optimistic
[Nexus 4 General] redandwhitearmy:
Still Jellybean

Build is JWR45 and 4.3 is still called jelly bean and i always thought naming every update with a different name was cool. :cool: Why change in trend now? Hope they are fixing unoptimized code running underneath ... Better now than never...
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
2.0 = eclair

2.1 = eclair

3.0 = honeycomb

3.1 = honeycomb

3.2 = honeycomb
[Nexus 4 General] ucraiova88:
4.0 = Ice Cream Sandwich

4.1 = Jelly Bean
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
4.2 jellybean lol
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
New camera here a vid http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/2...mera-ui-with-hdr-improved-on-screen-controls/
[Nexus 4 General] ucraiova88:
yes but this it not where i was pointing out. the thing was that 4.0 and 4.1 were not in the normal trends like he mentioned
[Nexus 4 General] Xmaster8:
Update from 4.0 to 4.1 was quite big... apps looks and project butter and more. since 4.1 till now 4.2.2 only thing that changed is clock, statusbar and lockscreen widgets. nothing major!
[Nexus 4 General] redandwhitearmy:
this never ends lol....

All the 1.x names changed with every update

2.1 to 2.2

2.2-2.3

looks like they are worried alphabetical order will end soon Already reached J :p
[Nexus 4 General] ucraiova88:
i totally agree with you. i just wanted to point out that here it was not the usual name convention...but again, i agree there were very big differences
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
I know I was just kidding around. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
If you wanted to play with the names a bit JB is small bite sized updates to the os :P
[Nexus 4 General] XeKToReX:
Can you do a system dump over WiFi adb? Then just pull it to your pc?

Take a hotspot with you if you need to..
[Nexus 4 General] KidCarter93:
But this 'nerd holo design' is the most ideal way for it to be.

Nerdy describes us lot on XDA pretty well, whether we're nerdy in other aspects of life or not, and the average consumer won't be bothered about the UI because they use the phone purely for communicating/having a good looking phone. They don't really care about how menus and other such parts of the phone are looking cosmetically.

+A bright design would then be an even bigger hog on battery. Some flagships have terrible battery already, due to all the power which the phone produces, so why would we want even worse battery performance than some phones already have?
[Nexus 4 General] Gafanhotz:
Sorry for being so gross... But why did you not showed the baseband version.......? A lot of people here is speculating that it's fake due to you now showing baseband version. Besides the kernel build date being compatible with the rumor.
[Nexus 4 General] streak4m3:
Nah, I think this time it is for real.:)
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
This is true about a screen, but (I'm pretty sure) it only works on AMOLED screens; on a screen like the nexus 4's the backlight is on the same amount regardless of the colour shade, only a change in brightness will mean the screen uses less battery. :)

Sent from my CM10.1 Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
Maybe he'd rather have a "bro holo" design. Take the nerdy right out of it. Gotta look cool in front of the bros. :)
[Nexus 4 General] hamad138:
Hmm im sure key lime pie will arrive this year...

Because 4.3 is only giving us a new camera app,gmail app,maps app, and this play stuff
[Nexus 4 General] florichelle:
We'll see ;)

I guess it will be just 4.3 and KLP will be announced next year.
[Nexus 4 General] SchmilK:
Omg I still have my Hermes on a shelf in my computer room! :)
[Nexus 4 General] Kraaz:
http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/another-pic.jpg

in this picture baseband seems to be

M9615A CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.74
[Nexus 4 General] Gafanhotz:
For me it looks like:

M9673A CEFWMAZM-2.0.1700.74

The only uncertain part is the beginning and the "CEFW" where it would me "CEPW".

It'd be nice to compare with an actual baseband of Nexus 4. Since for me (I only know about GNex basebands wich is named XXLH1 UGHL1 etc) it's strange.

But that kernel build date... Sounds like it should be on I/O but was pulled out for some reason.
[Nexus 4 General] wcoaster:
Probably cause they have terrible data speeds in Thailand and he had a faster connection at home.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Very cool! A true classic!!
[Nexus 4 General] sanel426:
Sorry, but that's great. Lmao
[Nexus 4 General] VivaErBetis:
Another Hermes user here :D
[Nexus 4 General] sayhellotwoheaven:
The linux kernel version is 3.4 in the photo, same used on Android 4.2. Rumors says which Android 4.3 will use the 3.6 Linux Kernel
[Nexus 4 General] TheManii:
Except for the NS reciving a 3.0 kernel for ICS (it was using 2.6.35.x for GB), goog generally doesnt do major kernel version updates for devices,

the major version the shipped with is the major version they will have for their lifetime.

They'll do minor updates: ie 2.6.35.3 -> 2.6.35.37 (made up example), but not 2.6.x -> 2.6.y.

I wouldnt expect for mako to get any official kernel updates past 3.4 if we followed previous patterns,

but there's no technical reason why they couldnt do that.

Whatever new device that ships with 4.3 will likely have a newer kernel version though, as there is a "preferred" kernel version.

For context: the "preferred" 4.2 kernel was linux 3.4, the kernels shipped on current nexus devices for JDQ39/4.2.2/android-4.2.2_r1 are:

GN: 3.0

N7: 3.1

N4: 3.4

N10: 3.4

The GN and N7 were upgraded to 4.2, and those were their (major) kernel versions that matched their initial shipping rom.

As the N4/10 launched with 4.2 they shipped with 3.4 kernels.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Awesome! Ground breaking device for XDA flashers! :D
[Nexus 4 General] rangerwill:
that is owesome！
[Nexus 4 General] deathgame:
dont know why the hell these people cover only camera app in leaked videos >:eek: its 4.3 leak not camera..mods can be applied for these control tweaks...focus on 4.3 man...
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
Not sure, but it's probably why they announced the S4 Google edition. Apparently, they had only worked on that for a week or so, which is probably when Google realized they didn't have this ready.
[Nexus 4 General] chaleen:
Now This mobile 4.3 will be blocked. By an employee of booth.

:(
[Nexus 4 General] BaconStep:
Damn
[Nexus 4 General] Rusty!:
Here's my about screenshot
[Nexus 4 General] fkloznica:
Just to fix push notification bug and i am happy :)
[Nexus 4 General] Lenny87:
Android 4.3 should be announced by Google next week.
[Nexus 4 General] OrrPenn18:
This. +1

Bugs the hell out of me.
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
source?
[Nexus 4 General] Shaky156:
Did the people who wanted to attend the expo manage to get there to view the device? Also have they taken a system dump? Use the dd method to clone the system but also remember to also take tye other partitions too including wifi/trustzone/ramdisk/modem etc as they are also important, (dont waste time takin dump of data partition ofcourse lol)

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We should really hit their twitter googlenexus account for the 4.3 & their facebook that might help lkl
[Nexus 4 General] Zuczeq:
lte is enabled?
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
no. it wont be. the n4 only has the hardware to support ONE band on lte.
[Nexus 4 General] hamad138:
Why gooogle bring this minor update instead of bringing a big update at once? No wonder why carrier cant update their phones stupid google
[Nexus 4 General] Zuczeq:
which one?
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
does it matter? its not supported. i see all these people on xda with n4's ranting about lte and it simply will not be supported by google. it doesnt have all the hardware necessary for it and was never meant for lte in the first place.
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
The baseband m9615a-cefwmazm-2.0.1700.74 is most likely intended for GSM networks (although it hasn't been used elsewhere before)
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
how do you know its a "minor" update when there is no evidence to support that theory? its possible the update could be small in size but touch every part of the system. thats not minor. we just dont know yet but im sure it will be soon. :fingers-crossed::highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
If it was a large update, it would not still be jellybean.
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
Lte works just fine on the N4.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2211618
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
yes and its only one band which isnt FULLY FUNCTIONAL lte. imagine if gsm only worked on one band. how good do you think it would be?
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
It's fully functional on the band I need. :)
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Either way my point was that google isnt going to make this a lte device through a update. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
tylercarter is right, LTE is not coming for Nexus 4, at least not via software update. BTW, anyone wonder what is occamf ?
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
No: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam

occam = mako
[Nexus 4 General] sasa_gm:
I guess that the changes in 4.3 are not going to be drastic. Maybe some optimizations, new camera UI, some BT stuff and that's all. :)
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
Yeah, I know that; I don't think it's the LTE version, and a 32GB version wouldn't require a different codename, so I have no idea what occamf could be
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
It could be a regional variant. The GN had a few variations.

The ones I remember were yakju ,yakjuxw,takju,toro,toro plus. Probably a few more I missed.
[Nexus 4 General] Google86:
jb jb jb enough jb! i want my pie, lol it sounds like portal 2,the pie is a lie lol
[Nexus 4 General] quiro91:
that's true, but I think Google doesn't want to have different regional variant, so they can update all of them without any problems.
[Nexus 4 General] KidCarter93:
What about if they're nerdy bros?

It would then require the nerdy bro look :D
[Nexus 4 General] nowster:
In case anyone HASN'T worked this out already... Phonetically, occam is mako backwards.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
Skip KLP and go straight to LSD! :D
[Nexus 4 General] Google86:
lime sandwich donut?
[Nexus 4 General] Devin Cuthbertson:
No LSD the drug
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
Google sucks if they really hold klp back just cuz other manufacturers android version would be too outdated.
[Nexus 4 General] jsstp24n5:
I think Samsung threatened Google after they found out about the Motrola X plans. In order to keep Samsung running Android Google has to wait to release 5.0.
[Nexus 4 General] Zorachus:
Are these rumors are true, that Samsung and HTC will be very upset if a whole new point release Android 5.0 next gen OS is ready next month ? Will make the S4 and One instantly outdated, running last years OS.

But so be it, that's the way Google has Android setup. The newest OS comes out for Nexus devices first, and then its up to the other manufacturer's to get their sh1t together, and put it on their flagship phone.

Problem is, phones like the S4 and One don't run stock Android, they have these bullish!t UI's and take a long time to develop the new Android code + their custom UI.

To me this points again to the problem with Touchwiz, and Sense. Today those are not needed anymore, absolutely no use, when stock Android is so beautiful and and very polished now.

Yes back in the early days, stock Android 2.2 was rough, and Sense added a lot to it. But now with JB 4.2 stock Android kicks butt, zero need for Touchjizz and Senseless.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Yep I reckon Samsung have put pressure on and google have renamed it back to jellybean 4.3 and reverted it back to jb colour scheme/layout.

It's probably still KLP underneath.
[Nexus 4 General] Zorachus:
Android 5.0 KLP delayed ? 4.3 coming at Google I/O, and 5.0 to be released on the Nexus-Five in the Fall ?

http://androidspin.com/2013/04/23/rumor-key-lime-pie-delayed-google-letting-oems-breath/

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2013/04/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-release-at-google-io-reportedly-delayed/

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/23/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-delay
[Nexus 4 General] Scottyfer:
Rumors on top of rumors? I'll pass. Only thing I've heard from an even semi-reliable source is that 5.0 is finished and being polished. Just because 4.3 shows up doesn't mean it will a.) be released or b.) not be pushed out quickly as a step between 4.2.2 and 5.0.

Google has never given a **** about the OEM phones becoming outdated. Jelly Bean came out about the time the S3 did running ICS. Why start caring now? It's only us nerds that pay attention to these things anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] eminembdg:
It's not odd or surprising.

The rumored Motorola x phone is slated for fall. Would make sense to release a huge OS version jump for new phone.

Doesn't matter, we'll still get the update even it's ready. It's not like jb is horrible. It's the most polished release yet.

I can wait. If all you care about is having a new pastry name and version number then change your build prop.

sent from my Nexus 4®
[Nexus 4 General] Zorachus:
Most sites predicting 4.3 Jellybean releasing at Google I/O, and maybe a sneak peak, backroom preview of Android 5.0, that won't officially debut until the Fall on the next Nexus phone.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...and-testing-android-4-3-its-still-jelly-bean/
[Nexus 4 General] trillo69:
You can bet there's going to be new wifi drivers on 4.3, there's already a qualcomm repository with them with the jb-mr2-dev branch:

https://www.codeaurora.org/gitweb/external/wlan/?p=prima.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/jb-mr2-dev

And if you search, you'll find some ARP and suspended-state related commits. I hope this time it gets totally fixed.

I felt a bit disappointed in the beggining after knowing KLP was showing at I/O, but now I'm excited about what's coming. It wouldn't be named 4.3 but 4.2.3 if it was going to be just a minor update. ^^
[Nexus 4 General] jusada:
I think this seems likely to be true as normally Google realise a new phone with the new software number. I really can't see a new nexus device coming this soon after the nexus 4. So yes maybe no klp but that doesn't mean the software won't be completely different. Google is leaning towards white and grey cards for interface and I'll expect to see more of that coming in any update Google realise!
[Nexus 4 General] Flippy125:
Hopefully they change the system theme to Holo Light.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
If they release a new nexus.... Gawd i would have to blow some more $ lol :(
[Nexus 4 General] Zorachus:
Google releases a new Nexus phone like clockwork, once a year in the Fall.

No different than Apple and the iPhone, or Samsung and the Galaxy S line every year.

Expect the Nexus-Five between Sept - Dec this year. I would guess more specifically late October / early November.
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Really guys why are you so butt hurt for?...not getting klp? if Google change this so called new jellybean and just named it klp you wouldn't notice the difference. Plus who says klp has to be android 5? Jellybean was 4.1 its possible also that klp is android 4.3 well that's just my thoughts on this :)
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
Oh you guys... Just lapping up anything these "blogs" spew at us.

Just enjoy your phone and wait for I/O. I'm sure Google has some cool things up their sleeve, regardless of the version number.
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
Oh well, no big deal, nice to see Google finally holding up on major releases until carriers get their **** together and actually update phones.
[Nexus 4 General] las5muertas:
I just hope we get bluetooth 4.0 support.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Well if 4.3 is true, then "giving OEM some breathing room" is a really lame excuse.

I guess that Google holding back KLP just for the Motorola X phone later this year.

And so there won't be any new phone announcement during May GIO. New Nexus 7 tablet, yes.
[Nexus 4 General] trillo69:
Isn'it already supported according to nexus specs on google play?
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
And make us blind. Why would you want Holo Light?

Maybe in some apps, but not overall.
[Nexus 4 General] kangerX:
best hallucination inducer ;)

Sent from the State where marijuana is not illegal
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Boo
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Just a little bit late to the party. :highfive: lol
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
LOL. I just woke up and it was on my news feed.
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
Happens to the best of us. :laugh: :highfive:
[Nexus 4 General] dhurk:
No KLP skipped,it will be KEBAP
[Nexus 4 General] progosu:
guys is it possible that along with the new camera ui they also improved quality of pictures?
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
anything is posible but i wouldn't hold my breath.... taps away waiting for wifi fix since november 2012
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshishere:
This Android 4.3 & white nexus are like unicorns. No idea what's making Google to delay it :confused:

Also wonder why there is no system dump yet as there has been so much of evidence of 4.3 version. May be next month(June 26th) along with GALAXY S4 Google Edition? I read another date as June 10th but no idea how that particular date was selected for the rumor :p
[Nexus 4 General] k0lega:
:)http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...hotos-of-the-white-nexus-4-lg-e960w-leak-out/
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
That's what I'm hoping. This phone supposedly has pretty good camera hardware, so its gotta be the software causing those ugly grainy pics:o
[Nexus 4 General] mountainloafers:
This! And OTG!
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Not just software. The camera sensors has most important. Apparently, our camera sensors blows. Low light shots are terrible.

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OTG won't be possible due to hardware limitation. (You can use Zippey's kernel and a y-otg cable for OTG with a external power source.)
[Nexus 4 General] rohiggidy:
camera software can be tweaked
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Yep you're right.
[Nexus 4 General] TheManii:
OTG can be included with the cavat that it requires external power.

Having it baked in means that we wouldnt have to modify roms and kernels to use it.
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
Hmm interesting.
[Nexus 4 General] rakeshishere:
After 6 months they thought there was a demand or need for a white N4 but not more storage & sort out other h/w quirks. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
Stop calling me Zippey :eek::crying:
[Nexus 4 General] thebryceee:
Lmao
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
Also, leaked .54 modem out: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41843154&postcount=637

thanks to eRajesh

I wonder if it's the same one as 4.3
[Nexus 4 General] TheManii:
Well zippy sorry i couldnt resist :silly:, the currently newest (known) 4.3 rom is JWR45B and it has a .74 modem

.54 sounds like it would be more likely to be paired with JDQ39B/JDQ39E, and we have yet to see JDQ39E in the wild.

The only real changes JDQ39E seems to be APN and mako wifi related stuff, so it could be a preinstalled rom. (and also a mako rom like JOP40G)

I would imagine that .54 would have been long past if it really was 4.3, the numbers really dont match up to expect it for a 4.3 rom, unless it was a really old one