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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Speak for yourself. I don't care for AOSP and the rest. If I wanted vanilla android I would have bought a nexus. I only care for custom kernels

Swyped from another galaxy
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] valleng:
Yeah I think stock is boring imo
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] j510:
So... Why are you in this forum again? I think youre looking for the nexus forum. Funny thing is I think the complete opposite. Nexus lacks in many areas especially feautures. It doesn't even have the simple brightness toggle in notification drop down.. then you'll argue there's an app for that. Then youll argue permissions are unecessary and too intrusive.. point is there's a lot that will most likely be complained about. SO I say purchase something only if you're satisfied with what you know yuure getting. And it seems this isn't for you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] YoungAceAtlanta:
I think sense 5 is better then touchwiz, I have both devices and after using my S4 for a few hours the HTC One feels like the better phone to me due to its build quality.

The front facing speakers makes a huge difference in audio for media lovers like me .

The camera features is awesome, I take Zoe's all the time

Blinkfeed is also great..and the TV remote is far more simple to me.

But the S4 feels much more lighter and easier to use every day. Plus having a SD card and removable battery is a plus.

Screens are the same to me but the HTC One is brighter with auto brightness enable.

At the end of the day you not going wrong with either device. But if I had to spend two years with only one device, I'll probly pick the One

I'll be keeping both devices because I'm a tech head so I gotta stay with the greatest
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] seh6183:
Good luck with that last part considering your bootloader is locked. And I'm not saying that I prefer aosp. I just prefer anything that looks better than touchwiz because it's the most unprofessional looking ui on the market.

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Please point out where in my argument I've said that the nexus is more feature filled than touchwiz. I've only said touchwiz is ugly and I don't even have the option of removing it any longer. No where in my posts have I praised htc sense or any other custom ui. I've only been arguing that Samsung gives us this ugly ui and then removes our ability to change it. It's one step backward for Android and one step closer to apple. Pretty soon Samsung will remove your abilities to install apks like Motorola has done in the past.

I'll say it again, without an unlocked bootloader and android phone is nothing. It's like buying a car with its hood welded shut.

Here's a perfect example of something totally dumb that you guys will have to live with "just because". Your Samsung keyboard doesn't have auto correct built in. You can not fix this with a locked bootloader. Sure you can use a totally different keyboard, but not the Samsung one if you want auto correct. Your choices are being removed from you and it just bugs me that no one is complaining. Everyone over here is talking like it's a god phone.

I don't know about the rest of you but I joined xda-DEVELOPERS to modify my phone to my preferences, not to talk all day about how great some product is and how I love it stock and wish to not mod it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
This thread and the fanboy posts = :thumbsdown:

I ended up returning my One for a S4 today..

Both are above awesome phones

Both have a gorgeous screen

Both have a lightning fast processor

Deciding which to get it a simple matter of personal preference, personal preference, personal preference.

I won't bash either phone as they both flat out ROCK!

The One has it's pluses and minuses

The S4 has it's pluses and minuses

Get the phone you want, rock it and be happy! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] seh6183:
I can say that this phone is a great choice for people who don't mind touchwiz or the locked bootloader, great phone.. However to the rest of us who joined this community to actually mod, this phone is a sin to open source style software.

And it's made out of playskool plastic.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
Childish post...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
All the front facing speaker comments are laughable. I have a note 2 and my s4 sound exactly the same. I used an htc one at work and my note 2 destroyed it in loudness and quality. So since I have the note 2 and s4 side by side full blast and cant hear a difference id say the htc one isnt as good when it comes to audio. Gimmicks or not id rather have the touchwiz feature than not. What does the htc really offer? Build quality? Take it...thats what insurance is for.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] alicepattinson:
On my part, I looooooooove the S4's camera :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] raqball:
I had the HTC One since launch day and the S4 since this afternoon.

HTC One Pluses:

Build Quality

I liked Sense better than TouchWiz

I think the sound is better via the speakers

The off contract price is cheaper

Blink feed.. Shoot me, I loved it!

HTC One Minuses:

Quality control

Slightly smaller screen

S4 Pluses:

Bigger screen

Removable battery

SD Card

Lighter

Plastic more durable (???)

S4 Minuses:

TouchWiz

Crapware

4.2.2 lags

Both phones are above awesome and all fanboy crap asside, you can't really go wrong with either of them.

I changed over because I went through 3 HTC One's due to flaws in the build and my last one just died and would not even boot. It was stock and non rooted.

HTC has some QC issues right now so if anyone is interested in it you might want to wait a few weeks or so and see if they resolve the build issues.

My .02
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Anon9mouz:
Speaking like a true gent this is a temp fix until the N5 hits:D

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] gruuvin:
I totally agree with you about the cheap plastic case. If there is only one thing that samsung could improve on this phone to make it damn near perfect, it would be to give it a quality enclosure made from metal.

But then again, who makes a better phone? Specs and features are king right now -- it's what a lot of us are really after, otherwise we wouldn't even upgrade!! After all, our old phones still do make phone calls right? So if you look to the next best phone which does have a nice metal enclosure, that would be HTC's One. But HTC seems to be losing touch a little with specs and features (and quality for that matter).

So, while it may not be perfect, at least the S4 is on top.

Hey, my cruiser motorcycle has all sorts of shiny chrome parts, and one day I noticed that a lot of those parts are actually chromed plastic instead of chromed metal, and I immediately thought it's 'not quality,' because it is cheaper to make plastic. Well, guess what, 11 years later those chromed plastic parts are more perfect that the rest of the bike. They will NEVER pit or rust. And they are not to expensive to replace either.

Point is, sometimes the material of a part makes more functional sense, even if it costs less (which makes more sense too!)

I am kind of glad that samsung decided to keep the enclosure simple, and not compromise on the functional features such as expandable memory and replaceable battery.

I have an HTC. I Love it. It is tough, But I am very careful to keep it looking new. But also important, it has a ton of memory that I bought for it, and I bought two new batteries for it recently. It is a great computer that will serve me for another two years as a camera/music player/ etc. The new HTC phones won't do that anymore (can't upgrade the memory or battery, so it is basically disposable after a year or two). :(

My wife has had an Iphone in a tough Otterbox case. Now after three years of throwing it around, dropping it, letting the kids play with it, etc., she takes it out of the tough case and guess what? IT LOOKS BRAND NEW! not a scratch! And she sells it for top dollar to use the money on an iphone 5 and puts it in an otterbox case.

I am going to get an S4 and put it in a tough case.

Best features. Built tough.

Done.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] seh6183:
Gimmicky features. Cheap plastic. Locked bootloader. Ugly ui. Pentile screen. Done.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
This is hilarious, someone with an iPhone is trying to join in a conversation about innovation!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] gruuvin:
I have to agree with you ONE THOUSAND percent!! What really matters is potential due to hardware innovation!!!!

The HTC looks cool, but since the One variants (X,V,S) last year, I think HTC has lost what made an android phone really cool -- POTENTIAL.

If someone makes a better battery, they can make it for my phone, and I can put it in there!! Not anymore with HTC. If I have tons more content than the average guy, I can buy a cheap memory upgrade and put it in there!!! upgraded my 4 GB phone to 32GB, now I need 64+GB. Not with HTC ... anymore.

And hey.... what made these smart phones with android so cool is that they were given sensors we don't get in our PCs... like GPS, compass, proximity, capacitive touch.. .etc...... which means that there is suddenly an explosion of innovative apps never seen before in the 20+ year old PC world. Apps like google sky, latitude, soundhound, etc.

...so what has samsung added? ambient temperature, pressure and hydrometer!!!

Awesome!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TechSilver13:
Has anyone else turned power savings on and feel the phone is snappier? Its strange but try it....s4 is what I am talking about of course.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337

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The htc one isnt really cheaper. You have to buy the 64gb which is 649.99 just to compete with the s4 in the future. I suppose it is 50 cheaper because if you bought a 50 dollar 64gb sd for the s4 it would be 690. But then the s4 would still have 16gb more than the htc which I would argue is a better value. The only crapware is att crap really. Everything else can and is useful to people. At least the s4 has optilns to use instead of jist being a normal phone.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Nottach:
I just returned my HTC One for the S4 today and I'm happy with the decision. I got the One mainly for the front facing speakers and IR blaster. I returned the One due to gaps in the housing, mainly in the corners, sharp edges, corns again, flaking of the plastic, near the SIM slot and USB port, and I feel like that white plastic around the edge will stain over time from skin oils. I like the S4 a lot better, the only thing I've found different is that you can't program the IR blaster with the components remote like on the One. Which was super nice...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eroracing:
I just don't get all this nonsense about having a smartphone made of metal it's just stupid! Seriously because apple made their crap iphone using aluminum now all of a sudden it's a must and if not it's just cheap plastic! That is the dumbest brainwashed bandwagon jump off the bridge stupidest crap I've ever heard..... Im sorry! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the build quality of any of the Samsung smartphones! And if you think different then please join the other brainwashed sheep and get yourself an iphone and find a appropriate forum to discuss your polished turd!

I'm sorry I'm just tired of hearing this nonsense!

END RANT!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] shook187:
I'm not a fanboy of any company, I'm actually a phone whore. I'll jump from phone to phone regardless of the manufacturer. And this time I have to say, I'm finally settling down.

Today I had a chance to play with the S4 for about an hour at the dead Sprint store. I did enjoyed some of the gimmicky software features but overall I couldn't get over the feeling I was just using a GS3.

Sorry but this whore already had some GS3 and I'm ready for something new.

The HTC ONE has won my heart with its boomsound and rock hard built. :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] lemonz23:
Haha I can vouch on your rant. I think it is because of the reviewers who first got the HTC One and they praised it so much only because they had the opportunity to work with other phones. Since they had those opportunities to experience and review plenty of other phones, they just got sick of "cheap" phones. Or maybe they just ran out of things to talk about. Because I have never heard so much praise of a phones build quality until the One. And because of this praise it was getting from the reviewers, it got me really hyped up and it rose my expectations of the phone

so much that when I had the opportunity to mess around with it a bit, I was really let down. I'm pretty sure that this is why many people are praising the build quality so much, only because most if not all reviewers have said the same exact thing,

Although I disagree about your claim with Apple. I believe they make phones with great quality, but if they took some notes from android they could really raise the amount of users of their product.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] dxwilliams40:
I returned my HTC one a few hours ago at bestbuy. I really liked it but I decided to go with the s4. I love the screen and I only miss the speakers and headphone output of the one. I will probably still get the unlocked version. Development will be great over there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] seh6183:
I suppose you would rather have a plastic screen on your phone as well then right? Or how about the current ultrabooks, you would prefer those plastic too? In one month take your s4 and just gently squeeze it a bit, go ahead and note all the creaking sounds the phone makes. Try that with an Iphone one year after owning it. I think the problem here is that you don't actually understand the fact that metal is a stronger material than plastic. *scratches head
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Bjray:
I'm squeezing the heck out of a 2 year old GS2. I don't hear anything.

Of course metal is stronger than plastic... But what is up for debate is witch is better for mobile phones. Polycarbonate plastic has its huge advantages when being used as a smartphone material, metal only has one. It simply just feels better (premium feel), it has no other advantages when being used as a material for smartphones.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] eroracing:
Seriously.... What's the point to your comment..... I mean who uses their smartphone as a stress relieving squeeze ball! I've owed all the iphones up to the 4s so you will never school me on there software or hardware! I also own the galaxy infuse galaxy s2,s3, and the Note...... And guess what all of them still work without issue or damage! Oh and guess what the battery in all of them still work also.... You obviously know why this is possible! But let's see my original iphone the 3g and the 3gs all will only last only a few minutes without corded power! So your comment about iphone build quality means nothing to me! I guess if I thought squeezing and twisting my smartphone was important than maybe the nonsense you speak of would mean something to me!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] joshyy_rey:
This thread has turned into S-sheep vs One Trolls. :thumbdown: :banghead:

I enjoy reading the opinions of those of you who actually have something constructive to say. :D:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] epsix:
I went to Vietnam for my vacation on 4/23 was pist off HTC One didn't released. Went on Craigslist bought brand new SG3 unlock. Now it work perfectly in VN. Was never a Samsung fan, but after using tw for a while I'm liking it. When I go back to US, I will give SG3 to my nephew.

Once I'm back in US, I'm still undecided whether to get HTC One or SG4. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tuxonhtc:
What on earth was the point of this post? Metal is durable than plastic? On what basis are you making that comment exactly? I have absolutely no creeking sound with my Note II, which is plastic. The only advantage I see is the looks (which is again subjective), but otherwise for me the pros of plastic by far outweighs the cons.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
That's stupid. I'm putting my Materials Science degree on the line here. Metal and Plastics have their own advantages and disadvantages. Plastic has a better absorption ability and plasticity ability meaning that it is harder to distort. That's why you can practically bend it in half and it reforms to its shape.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] seh6183:
I've had a note 2 since release, as a matter of fact I'm posting from it right now. You, I, and everyone that owns a note 2, know that you are lying through your teeth when you say your phone doesn't creak. Mine started week 2.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tuxonhtc:
Bollocks. I just squeezed the phone (that's what you suggested right?) and there's no creaking. Are you bloody serious? Not that I would have any issue with that but there isn't any creaking on mine. On what basis are you saying that everyone that owns a Note II has this noise exactly?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
I'm sure mine might creak, but honestly I've never heard it creak because I have a case around it. When I get my HTC One and SGS4 I'll most likely have a case around those too!

The HTC One I sure the hell don't' want to drop because if it hits the corner from head level it almost immediately dents. And you know how hard it is to repair a HTC One? Almost impossible without getting it serviced. So there goes the awesome super design that I think the statistic shows about 80% or more people put their phones in cases and covers.

The demand for all premium phones to be made out of metal is ridiculous. Yes, there should be phones with metal cases but nothing is absolutely wrong with phones made of other materials.

What we should be moving towards are composite materials, but those are still in RnD.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Please shut up I got both the n2 ans s3 and none of them creaks. So you're the only one with this problem. Who's the biggest bull****er now?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tuxonhtc:
Yeah such a troll. I know that people have had this issue, but mine doesn't (if I would even call this an "issue" that is) - and he still had to accuse me of lying. What a moron.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kevnuke:
These sensors are in the SGS4?? O.o
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] texasboylaw:
I went from the s3 to HTC one and although its a very nice phone I've gotten use to the home button in the middle. So I traded for the s4. The plastic isn't really a issue. Just buy a case. I think it feels great in hand without one. Just my 2cents
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ratchetjaw:
Loving my s4 but just Ordered the Dev Htc One ( sent back my att version Htc One) will just use both. Development looks like it may be good with the One so why not both :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] calvin35:
To me the difference in screen size was very noticeable and is one of the reasons I could never consider getting the One. The aspect ratio of the One seems to match that of the iPhone 5 with the screen being very narrow and stretched out. i presently own a GS3 and even though the screen on that is only .1 inches larger than the One it also seemed noticeably larger to me as well. When you factor in the fact that the GS4 has a transparent dock and never has the dreaded menu bar that the One experiences with certain apps then there are times when the screen on the GS4 looks downright huge when comparing it to the One.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Skizzy034:
No one seemed to mention the cool accessories the S4 will be getting. I'm looking forward to the S-Health ones and the S-View cover.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] valleng:
s-health to me is a joke. In reality whose going to be inputting how many calories they are eating especially if its in a restaurant where there is no known calories of the dishes =/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
Kinda what im leaning towards doing. I paid $599 plus tax on my AT&T 32GB One (about $660). I can exchange it for a few bills more for an S4, and then if I want to get back into an HTC One I can get the Dev edition 64GB for $650 shipped new without tax since its coming from CA.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] akira02rex:
I wish I was rich.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
lol. You get a Iphone 5 on contract for $199 and sell it for $500-550 on the internet. Doesnt make you rich.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] akira02rex:
Care to elaborate? That makes no logical sense to me when buying a new phone.

So $550-$200(price u paid) = $350 in your pocket.

New S4 = $600ish? $600-$350 and you're in the hole $250.

Why didn't you just buy the S4 to begin with? You just lost money my friend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
meh, your probably right. buying and selling phones its rough sometimes, that was merely an example.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] akira02rex:
It's a cash cow. :laugh:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
Back on topic, anyone regret the switch? Going to pick up a black S4 here soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ratchetjaw:
I had a One sent back and got the S4. Love the s4. Woke up this morning bored ordered Dev edition 64gb Htc One. Will try out the ROMs that fixed the issues I had. Still thinking the s4 is going to remain my daily driver but will see. Both nice phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] robstunner:
What issues? Im in ARHD 7.1 with the HTC2Menu kernel and while it works 99% of the time, home and back buttons now work 40% of the time. Im sure it can be fixed in the future but right now it doesnt work very well.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ratchetjaw:
The black bar, but multi tasking refreshing was what really got me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] plmiller0905:
I have both the One and S4...

Ok after having the S4 for about a day..some things I noticed is that in daylight/outside conditions..the One's screen is easlily viewable. Whereas the S4 screen seemed gloomy or foggy, definitely not clear as the One. But maybe that could be fixed with a setting or two..

The sound on the One is also better (no brainer here..lol) it seems more fine tuned. Whereas the S4 seems louder but the sound is flat.

There is also lag..especially waking the phone up. Sometimes the Sammy Clock widget doesnt even appear to several seconds later...this annoys me the most.

The build is not as bad as what some people state. The chrome bezel gives it a somewhat polished cool look. I was assigned to work prom last night and I had a few students and teachers ask me if what i had was the S4...and they had so many positive thibgs to say..lol

The Features work sometimes and sometimes they dont. But for all I know l, I could he doing them wrong..lol

Battery life on the S4 seems ok, but still to early to tell. I do know that on the One I was averaging between 10 and 13 hours with my use. So im gonna test the battery out today

Tomorrow will be the real test for me because I will use the S4 at work. And service isnt always the greatest. But with the One, everything worked flawless. So hopefully sammy's antennas are up to par.

My issues with the One is that its a setting or something off that has to do with touch recognition. What I mean is that for example im playing a music track...I press the arrow to fast forward to the next track... but it doesnt go to the next track because I have to press either more to the left or to the right of the "next track button"

The navigation buttons also is not as responsive as the S4...

:)

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] boodies:
seriously, there is no challange. The One is just another android phone. GS4 offers infintely more. I also happen to think it looks much better as well.