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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
yes of course i do, all i'm saying is android is nearing the point of why do i even need to upgrade unless battery life gets better?

better notifications, faster OS, 20 gagillion megapixel cameras, 20 GB of RAM, blah blah, is all great and all that.... but, if my phone is dead what use is all of that?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
Wait, are we talking about upgrading the OS on the Galaxy Nexus? Or upgrading to a new phone? Because I agree, I dont need all that high end crap just to have it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
upgrading to a new phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
Oh, well then yeah. I dont see the point. As of right now the Galaxy Nexus is holding its own against the new stuff. Its working well enough for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
exactly i see no reason to upgrade unless they improve battery life with software/hardware optimizations to AT LEAST iPhone level.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
I agree. I really don't like those 5" + phones. I will continue with my Gnex until manufacturers get away from the bigger is better mentality and provide a device you can enjoy without worrying about it running out of juice when you need it the most.

Sent from my Nexus 7 Wi-Fi
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
My galaxy nexus satisfies my need for speed at the moment, it destroys the Tegra 2 in my Xoom in terms of speed/doing tasks. The only place where I wish for some more power would be in the GPU, there is a quite a bit of games which don't play too well on the galaxy nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chickentuna:
I'm actually more interested with the specs rather than the design/appearance. But the way I see it, the looks are not far from the last 2 nexus devices. They say that the googerola device would be a "game changer". Dunno what they have on their sleeves but we'll see in a few weeks IF they announce it at the I/O
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] madd0g:
Thats a carrier phone, nothing special.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sliders7:
Dual Core Max at 4.2.2

I read somewhere, on one of the android blogs... that Google officials confirmed all dual core Android will max up to 4.2.2

But i really doubt it, even we will not get 4.3... soon after that someone will port it to Gnex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
Yeah.... Going to need the source for that.

I doubt Android will become a quad core (+) OS only.

Like I said. That would kill the low end market, which does make up a large chunk of the userbase.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
---------- Post added at 10:26 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:23 AM ----------

They told me that they read on an Android blog online that Google officials had previously confirmed all Nexus devices will continue to receive updates as long as you still have some sort of proof of purchase.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus GSM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
" The insider reconfirmed. All smartphones and tablets based on a dual-core processor will end on Android 4.2.2."

Doesn't seem very credible.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
Excuse me but isn't this information only relevant for Samsung handsets (I mean those that are provided firmware by Samsung)? Does it really matter for Nexus line? Not trying to act smartass just curious.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
That's probably it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
The leaks are starting.

http://androidandme.com/2013/05/news/htc-leaks-new-features-of-android-4-3/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
I can't even think what new will JB 4.3 have, but I really miss silly faces effects which was in ICS to JB 4.1 camera.. :/

I have noticed JB 4.2.x camera has the silly faces image files and some texts related to silly faces in .xml files so it would be great if JB 4.3 have better camera with face effects and faster rotation..

Btw. why is the video background files still in /system/media/ when Silly faces and video background features are not in JB 4.2's camera..? :confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
I believe those are for Google talk video

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus GSM
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I'll be looking forward to seeing how project butter evolves with future versions of Android. I don't see 4.3 being much different, visual wise, from 4.1/4.2, but hopefully Google spent a lot of time under the hood, to make things run smoother on mid-range devices, like the GN would now be classified as.

From a dev standpoint, it's not really going to matter, but I think 4.3 will probably be the end of the line for the GN. I'm on Verizon, so if I ever get the 4.3 update via their channels (I'm rooted, so I'll have it very soon after it's out), I'll be surprised. But, the GN is now 18 months old, which is nearing the end of it's supported life, based on Google's 18 month window of support. But the Nexus S did get the 4.1 update, so anything is possible (KLP update), I guess.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I hate how they say Google is "expected" to release 4.3 at Google io. Before we heard of 4.3, it was "expected" that we'd see 5.0. I really hate rumors. No one knows what is "expected"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
I expect Google I/O to start on the 15th of May, and I expect them to make an announcement in regard to Android. I think the word you meant to use was "hoped" rather than "expected".
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
Exactly. That's pretty much all we can "expect". All these speculations don't mean anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Exnor:
Im on 4.2.1 euro version and have 0 problems... Did add to wait a lot of time to get the official OTA thought...

So far Gnex if perfect for my computing necessities on a phone... Not going to buy a newer one for a long time.

If i get 4.3 or 5.x good but if not i already have all i need.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] E.Cadro:
Last two pages of the thread have been cleaned of the irrelevant posts. Lets lower the noise level in here gentleman.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Some people are more realistic than others. The people expecting 5.0 were basically crazy people who made something up in their head without any facts or thought as to what has happened in the past, and dumb people who listened to those crazy people. The people expecting 4.3 are the ones that looked at the facts of the matter, see that Android devs are talking about "Jelly Bean MR2" and looked at solid sources like AndroidPolice who recently confirmed that 4.3 has been spotted originating from IP ranges associated with Google itself.

So yes, 4.3 is expected. There's concrete evidence of 4.3, and that's that.

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You need to read this:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...but-it-doesnt-make-them-android-4-3-features/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chickentuna:
Right on. Based on the sources that was circulating the web so far, 4.3 is more realistic right now.

For all I know, 5.0 may not come until next year. But honestly no one knows. Unless you're from Google working directly with the project or maybe a fortune teller.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Yeah I just read that this morning, one sheep posts something and then 10 other news sites cover the same story in an attempt to boost site traffic.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
And everyone needs to read this http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/04/30/editorial-stop-making-crap-up-and-then-whining-about-it/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
You're right, everyone DOES need to read that. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nomancoolboy:
I have optimus one

Armv6 snapdragon s1 msm7227(one of the oldest one) 600mhz cpu

512mb ram

Adreno 200

(This is called ancient)

Its 2.5 years old ...

And still running the android 4.2.2 smoothly ...!!

So compared to this phone

Your gnex is powerful enough to run any upcoming android OS versions without any issues !
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
I wish I could see this smoothness :) Not kidding, i find it cool to watch retired devices running latest android version.

I agree with you. However it's not that easy comparison. Gnexus has relatively very big high resolution screen. Number of pixels here is comparable to 2012 flagships like S3, N4, HTC One X but CPU and especially GPUs power is incomparably weaker on the other hand. So we need little more horse power to push all those pixels smoothly than low end devices with low resolution screen (320 x 480 pixels, 3.2 inches on optimus one as far as i remember).
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Yeah I'm not sure why people seem to think that a dual-core 1.2ghz phone with 1gb of RAM can't run 5.0 when all these much weaker phones can run 4.2.2 just fine.

I have a feeling these people are:

1) People with weird issues that need to have the very latest phone or they will feel "uncool" or "poor" or "left behind" but dont want to admit it so they have convinced themselves that Android 5.0 simply won't run on the Gnex.

2) People who spend a lot of time trying to run the latest games on these phones instead of actually using the phone to communicate with people.

3) People who are so scared of rooting their phone that they'd rather try and sell the Gnex to buy the Nexus 5 and let Google update their phone for 2 more years. I like to call these people: "might as well buy an iPhone" users.

4) People who would rather die than factory reset their phone so they are under the impression that their phone is too slow even for 4.2.2. Just reset the phone, guys. Is it really that hard? You spend all this time on the internet but you can't backup and reset the device you have with you the most?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
What's wrong with playing games on a phone...? There is a reason why phones have multitasking, you can play your games and text your friends!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
Exactly, smartphones are not only communication platforms but multifunctional (and also entertainment) devices. If somebody enjoys playing games why wouldn't he/she do that?

Whether device is too slow or not is actually more or less matter of taste. I can bet that the majority of us would get irritated after couple of days of using this low end phones running "smoothly" JB. For some gnex can feel too slow now and for another can be still just perfect. Not much to discuss. I am generally satisfied with GNex, and I don't think it won't be able to handle KLP. Question is only how? But I can also feel that 4.2.2 feels little heavier than 4.1.2 in certain areas. (Not trying to be sarcastic but I've done millions of factory resets, didn't help ;) ) I am also considering upgrading in couple of months, but due to different reasons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
Games are the last priority on a phone. A phone is a communication and internet device. If your phone falls out of a 30 story window and smashes into bits, you won't be upset because you can't play your 3D games, you'll be upset because your friends and family can't contact you as well and you can't use the internet while on-the-go.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Thank you! I'm not the only one who thinks it's absurd that our phones won't be able to upgrade to newer Android versions. I can't see the low end phone market just drying up and dying like that, not to mention what COULD they do that would quadruple hardware requirements.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
I think 99,9% of us share your opinion :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
I would have guessed that before this past week, before I came across post after post of people on that KLP = quad core bandwagon. Now I'm not so sure =P
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] quadomatic:
If the Nexus S has no problems with 4.2.2, I can't imagine we'll have problems with KLP.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] g1junky:
You made some good points here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seriousia:
I don't care if we get official KLP or not, I never really used stock Rom anyway. I just want fully functional Rom n I'll be happy even if it is a custom KLP Rom.

And for the people whining that our nexus will not be able to run KLP because its min requirement will be quad core n all, 1st clear in your mind that if we don't get the update then it will be because Google is lazy too to work on our device anymore cause it will be 18+ months old or they want you to buy their new nexus and not because our device can't handle it or our gpu is too weak.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] LVracerGT:
I tried going back a few pages, but couldn't find anything. Could someone explain what KLP is?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Since when is a phone associated with the internet? You don't need the internet to communicate with friends. After all this is a communication device according to your definition. If your going to include the internet then you have to include apps and games.

My Nokia 3310 was a communication device yet it had the famous snake game. Phones like the Galaxy Nexus are not only communication devices anymore, although I dislike the term, Samsung did get it right advertising the S4 as a life companion. That's exactly what smart phones have essentially become; Life Companions.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lonestrider:
I agree that phone is a communication device. Internet is also a tool for communication.

Then game might be in some way after that.

Of course! If it's only game without communication, it'll be called 'NDS' or 'PSP'.

And if it's only communication, it won't be called a smartphone.

Game came second. But it's a must.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
I think he's just trying to say it's not the end of the world for most people if their phone doesn't play Nova 3 smoothly.

It's certainly true for me, the only phone I could play games like that on is the Xperia Play. I refuse to pack around a PS3 controller with me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I hope the phone takes the path of progression of the laptop. Spec race, feature race, then battery and power consumption race. I hope the phone is in stage 3.....:sly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I meant smartphone and figured it wouldn't matter since everything we discuss here is a smartphone but I guess people have to roll out the Nokia 3310 just to make an argument.

If you are going to fall for Samsung's marketing department and start calling your smartphone your "life companion" I don't think you can associate games with "having a life", even under Samsung's definition. It's fine to play games once in a while but a smartphone is mostly about keeping in contact with people, accessing the internet for information wherever you are, and to serve as a multpurpose tool (calculator, converter) in your pocket. Games don't really make your life easier, they're just a distraction from your life, if anything.

Back to the topic at hand: the need to play the latest high-end games at the highest performance possible is really the only reason I could see why somebody couldn't use the Galaxy Nexus for another 2 years. 5.X will run just fine on it, and I bet 6.X will as well. Aren't we on a forum that can help us squeeze out the most from our existing phone? Why are we even talking about giving up on the Galaxy Nexus when 5.0 comes out?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
Key Lime Pie
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
I wish they designed phones from the battery on up. Like having an enormous battery that is thin, but it's shape and size matches the back of the device. Hope you guys understand what I meant. :o

Sent from my Nexus 7 Wi-Fi
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Maybe you didn't notice, but I said I disliked the term "Life Companion". I also didn't specially say games were essential for a phone to be a valuable tool, its the fact a smartphone can do so many things now a days that it make it a companion.

I understand that you cant justify the need to upgrade from the galaxy nexus and will continue to come up with reasons to validate your opinion. A few months ago and I would have done the same but unfortunately the experience this phone offers is not up to par with the current line up of smart phones.

The Gnex is not even remotely quick at fetching new stories in Currents when compared to newer devices. Not too mention the lags and studders through out the os.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
You still agreed with the term being valid. It doesn't matter whether you like it or not. The marketing has made its way into your mind and you've accepted it. A person is a companion, not a phone. A phone is a tool. This isn't the iPhone forum. We shouldn't be susceptible to marketing buzzwords.

Of course it's not. It's an 18 month old phone. Technology progresses. Not sure why you even had to state this.

Currents is a pretty bloated app that focuses too much on flash and pizzazz in my opinion. That's why I use gReader. As for the overall performance of the phone: its obviously not going to be as fast as a Snapdragon 600 with 2GB of RAM but if you need to do something like messaging, system networking, video playing, and internet usage, it works just fine and it will work for another 2-3 years. My Gnex does not lag enough for me to want to stop using it, and I'm pretty sure it won't lag enough for me to stop using it even when I put Android 5.0 on it.

I personally stayed with the Gnex because I don't want a phone with a glass back like the Nexus 4. If there's another stupid glass phone this year, I'm staying with the Gnex. I'm not upgrading until my Gnex stops being useful to me or a Nexus phone offers me something I can't resist, which will potentially be another 3 years from now.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I guess you have such a deep attachment to your "tool" if that's what you want to call it, that its begun to cloud your vision and make you overlook various flaws. If I remember correctly you were the guy who was bashing this phone a month ago stating it sucked if you weren't a developer and now you have such a passion to defend it. What changed your mind set?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I think you have me mistaken with somebody else. I never bashed this phone in that manner. The Gnex certainly has flaws, but the pros outweigh the cons.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fireknuckles:
I'm super excited about BLE potentially finally! That is all.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
My apologies then, if you were to upgrade from your galaxy nexus, what specs would you want on the device? excluding newer builds of android, just purely physical specs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
I'm waiting for a Nexus with a true 8-core CPU, a whole new GPU architecture, maybe 4GB of RAM, a really tough build quality in the vein of the Lumia 920 or Razr Maxx and a camera that takes pictures that look like they came from a good point and shoot.

I want a big jump so I don't feel like I'm buying for the sake of having the latest. I want my next purchase to really wow me and offer an experience that really makes me think I couldn't go back to my old phone even if I tried. I don't game on my phone at all nor can any phone match my current camera, so I don't need what any new phone today offers. However, when phones start becoming real innovative powerhouses that make the Gnex look like a toy in comparison, I'll be on Google Play ordering it without hesitation.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
So you are limiting yourself to only nexus devices? I would be ecstatic if Google released a nexus device that was truly revolutionary but by the looks of it Google is going for the cheap device market. I feel as I will have to jump away from the nexus line up to get a truly revolutionary device.

I'm laying my hopes on the Motorola X Phone though. If the rumors turn out to be even 30% true it sounds like it will turn out to be an awesome device. We'll see how Google I/o plays out and maybe 4.3/5.0 can breath some new life into my aging nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sam razzy:
Is there will be update from Google for our nexus ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Stop asking, nobody knows, all these android blogs don't have concrete evidence, only speculations...

I'm betting that we will get 4.3, but whether it runs smooth or not, i have my reservations..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
4GB of RAM... what on gods earth would you use 4GB of RAM AND 8 cores for on a phone? You planning on playing Crysis on Ultra settings? What a waste....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
No, because he said he doesnt game at all. lol. Seriously though, these phones are starting to be more powerful than my desktop computer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
"64 kb is all anyone will ever need" - bill gates
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
No they're not. An 8 core ARM chip will not touch an 8 core x86 chip. Hell, they won't even touch an old core 2 duo. Remember that numbers don't mean a thing, and that phone cpu's have very little room in the power consumption department. There's a reason the Tegra 3 powered surface is a complete slug compared to the i5 powered Surface. But there's also a reason it lasts way longer on a charge
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I forgot to mention that my computer is 10 years old. lol
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Oh I see..Well then it's possible :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
People said the same thing about quad-core and 2gb...yet here we are.

Stop being a downer. You'll someday use a phone 10 times more powerful than that. Are you going to complain then too?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
When the rumors started spreading about a 4.65" galaxy nexus phone, people begin to flip out. Everyone said it was way to big and unergonomic but now nobody would use a phone with a screen smaller then 4.65".

Just goes to show people like to complain and moan about changes and eventually become reliant on the added features.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
I don't know man. 4.3" screen seems still perfect to me. Unfortunately since 2012 all flagships come with 4.7" + screen. If you want an android phone with top notch specs u've got no choice but accept the big screen.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] chrisinsocalif:
My Galaxy Nexus works well mostly, but I hope the next update fixes memory leaks, enterprise wifi connections, bluetooth, 5 Ghz band, and other factors that are impacting my phone. Bug fixes are more important to me than new features.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
Yeah if 4.3 turns out to be just totally bugfree variant of 4.2.2 I'd still be more than happy. I don't need more features (well..maybe only t9 dialer, but that's doubtful we're ever gonna see it in stock rom)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
That's understandable. I can see why somebody would want to stick to that size. It really is a shame that all these companies are able to roll out tons of phones every year instead of just focusing on a few key configurations:

1) Note-sized beast phone at 6 inches+ ($299 w/contract)

2) Overall flagship intended for most people, 4.7 to 5 inches. ($199 w/ contract)

3) Smaller version of overall flagship at 4.3 inches, same internal specs ($149 w/contract)

4) Mid-range spec phone at 4.3 inches. ($99 w/ contract)

5) Mid to Low end spec phone at small size of 4 inches. (Free w/contract)

6) Low end phone at tiny size of 3.5 inches. (Sold unlocked for 150 dollars w/o contract)

I think every OEM should focus on these 6 types of smartphones so that they stop wasting money on phones nobody will buy and use that money to make a core set of phones that everybody will find a fit for.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RobBull69:
This :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] forever_lol:
You've got really some good points here.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AntonyStark:
What ever happens no update will make the On screen Buttons part of the screen look the right colour in Landscape even if it stops all the lag and jams I'm getting. Phone is near the end.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fanaticalg:
Amen sir.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CADude:
You need to stop complaining and start rooting and customizing. My Gnex runs great on Rasbeanjelly and Franco kernel. Its not the fastest phone in the world, but it doesn't lag as much as you say.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
The thing is, if Google did the optimization part, it won't feel like trying to play Battlefield 3 with crap drivers...

We should not be forced to root to fix such minor issues that should be fixed at Google's end...