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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
iPhone 5 is a year old, gnex a year an a half, well compare iPhone 4S to gnex it still wins against gnex, only thing gnex wins over iPhone 4S/5 is its cheap price, you can talk up custom roms as a reason to prefer android when their all exactly the same as stock with a few differences in cherry picks woopty doo, you still have to root to flash roms just like you have to jailbreak iPhone to get full root access an customization, without rooting your android phone all you have over iPhone is live wallpapers an home screen widgets, sad but true but most people only root their android device so they actually get google updates, so spare me your bullsh1t about android being better when I been using both apple an android for the last 5 years.

Out of all those hundreds, possibly thousands of android phones on the market they still can't beat one single phone like iPhone, what does that tell you, iPhone's just work thats why people prefer them an they don't look like something that came out of a cheap toy box straight from China.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I have owned both an iPhone and an android device and through various tests I determined that for my usage, android simply makes more sense and works better for me.

The Plastic arguments are really getting old, if that's all you have to say that is bad about devices like the S4 than I would say they must be doing plenty of things right...

I would much rather a plastic 5" screen phone than a 4" metal phone.

Reading through your post, I realize that you prefer iOS for your needs, but too come here and bash on android just because it doesn't match your needs is unnecessary and stupid. Apple does plenty of things well on the iPhone but overall android provides the better experience for me.

If Android doesn't match your needs, Switch to iOS, in the end it is a smartphone and you don't have to be upset if one smartphone doesn't match your needs.

You have the freedom to choose what fits you best.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mzmartipants:
As someone that puts their phone in a rugged case (a Seidio Active case) and screen protector, I could care less about metal vs. plastic. No one can tell from a case if it's plastic or metal. I am not carrying my phone to impress anyone with how it looks.

For me it's all about usability/utility. It's about what the phone can do for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Hi sir,

Do you understand my simple question?

I'm pretty sure I just said how is the iPhone 5 in the same league as the gnex.

So spare me your bullsh1t.

Regards,

Mach

Beamed from my Maguro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
League ! well let's see instead of iPhone 5 I will say iPhone 4S an it still the same result, so my question is how is gnex better than the 4S besides its larger screen an cheap price tag, an don't use roms as some sort of selling point to own android when you can do the same sh1t on a iPhone that's jail broken with mods an tweaks to the existing stock iOS without needing to flash a whole custom rom to achieve it.Android doesn't have free in app purchases with every app using api tweaks ect an half the goodies of such repositories like cydia has.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AntonyStark:
To be honest when I got my Gnex The HTC Desire was still a better phone than the iPhone so I don't know which portion of time the iPhone could've caught up...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
I see you still won't answer the question, simply saying something is better vs another without any evidence or reason isn't an answer.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AntonyStark:
It was phone of the year all over the place, all iPhones are similar so it wouldn't suddenly be worse than an iPhone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
I never heard of a HTC Desire until you just mentioned it, not being silly, my first android phone was the HTC nexus one an that was more popular maybe from what I remember.The only reason people say iPhones are all the same is because apple make their own phones an devices unlike Google or microsoft, if only Samsung made android phones you would say the same thing about Google, even the s2 to this day is better than a gnex, Google should just make the Samsung galaxy s series the permanent nexus every year to be honest an be done with it instead of their spin the bottle way of doing things with all these manufacturers each year deciding on who gets to be a nexus.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AntonyStark:
The Desire was a Nexus One's better younger brother.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smileyanz:
Lol its all just opinionated, its android any day simply coz it feels like a new phone whenever I flash another ROM. Lag for me on 4.2.2 is tiny and in no way bothers me coz its only once in a while in scrolling through widgets!!! Think that lag etc a lot of guys see just won't be fixed, don't think they can but that's just my opinion!! Roll on KLP!!..iPhone WHAT!!!!!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
If I read the word iPhone one more time I'm gonna start posting iPhone propaganda...

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Have you been reading carefully? I did not mention anything about ROMs and bigger screen and the gnex being cheap.

For the fact that i bought my gnex at full unsubsidized price months before it came out on Google Play and i'm sure many of us over here did, i find that your cheap argument on the phone being cheap is invalid.

Answering your question, the gnex is not better than the iphone 4s and the iphone 4s is not any better than the gnex, it caters to different people. My friend prefer iPhones while I prefer android devices and it's just that way, I have nothing against Apple and I personally feel that it is a well built and optimised device(better than what Google did with their nexus line), but it doesn't appeal to me.

Anyway, it's and not an, pretty sure you left the "d" out and hope no offence is taken over at your side.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smileyanz:
Lv it giggles
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
This thread should be renamed to "Another Stupid iOS/Android War"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Google working on Android 4.3... and the iPhone is still the same

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smileyanz:
War don't u mean walkover!!!! No but honestly people shouldn't curse on these android forums, won't have my children brought up in such a manner?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Got_Evo?:
The gnex is preferred by me. I had Tue gnex on launch day. After 6 months, I switched over to iPhone 4s (birthday gift) for a few months before ditching that iPhone and returning to my gnex. Google + gnex = flagship......even after 18 months later.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] MondoMor:
Neato. Kernel version bumped from 3.0.x in 4.2.2 to 3.4.x in 4.3. That's .4 better! :cyclops:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] deepayanneogi:
THats a ss from N4, it was released on 3.4.0 kernel and still on 3.4.0 after 4.3, there is no version change. :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seriousia:
New update for gmail is coming

http://blog.gsmarena.com/google-updates-gmail-for-desktop-android-and-ios-with-new-tabbed-inbox/

And one thing

Android 4.2 demo videos have always used 4:20 as the clock time. GMail's new video shows 4:30. Android 4.3, anyone? :p
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
Apparently the calendar app is getting an update as well.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/29/4...with-new-appointment-interface0-custom-colors

We may not have gotten a new version of android yet but they are on a roll with their apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
I wonder if they make new widgets for Calendar app, I really miss the month overview from Sense UI
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seriousia:
Finally it is confirmed :p

But still no spec sheet

http://m.gsmarena.com/moto_x_smartp...the_first_to_be_made_in_the_usa-news-6121.php
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
And this is what was said about it:

"The phone will be made in the US, it will have an OLED screen, and Woodside has said that "we know when it's in your pocket, we know when it's in your hand, it's going to know when you want to take a picture and fire up the cameras." It'll know when you're in the car, for instance, and promotes different interactions."

Source: http://www.theverge.com/android/201...one-is-real-says-motorola-ceo-dennis-woodside
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Esteway.619:
Thats kinda scary.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I like the memes that were created in the comments the most.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] electro`:
Leave.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fifarunnerr:
In the latest Google Play Services, any developer can use that kind of technology.

Play Services is able to determine if you're walking, bicycling or (driving/sitting) in a car. AFAIK it's possible (as an app) to receive a notification when the user starts doing X(walking, bicycling ..). It's even possible to request a notification when the user enters region X within radius Y. Play Services will handle all the location polling and battery management for the developer :)

So most of the stuff he talks about, is currently available on any Android device running 2.2 and up. It's kinda scary if you think about it, but it's really awesome stuff for developers. A ton of Google Now's functionality is based on this APIs, like the location based reminders and the monthly activity updates(walking/bicycling).

IIRC, the only thing he talked about that doesn't exist(as an API) yet, it the recognition if the user wants to take a picture. But I guess that could be as easy as: "If the users power on the screen when the device is in landscape and tilted(hold it as you would when you're taking a picture), launch the camera app". There's a notable difference in the way you hold your phone between unlocking your smartphone in landscape to watch a movie, than the way you hold your phone when you want to take a picture.

And in case you want some more 'kinda scary' technology Google released during IO:

There's a notification API(for devs, also in Play Services, available on 2.2+) which knows where the devices of user X are. So if his tablet is idle at home, and his phone is away, the notification will be sent to the phone only. When the user dismisses the notifcation on his phone, the API will notify the tablet that he should remove the notification(which the app will do).

My wishlist for Android 4.3(as a developer and as a user) is just: Smoother graphics and better performance. I really have no idea what they need to add to 4.3. They'll release cutting-edge APIs(like the ones I mentioned) using the Play Services. They update their apps via the Play Store, so there's really no need for a whole new Android version.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hammadsaqib:
Are they really holding back KLP so companies can catch up on software updates or are they just renaming KLP as 4.3? That can't be true right KLP should be a pretty big leap from 4.2.2 as is the trend we've been seeing so maybe 4.3 is just an incremental update, just for the sake of an update

Sent from my revamped One X
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
All indications are that 4.3 will be another version of Jelly Bean, but we will know for sure what it's going to be called when it is released.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] hammadsaqib:
And when will that be?

Sent from my revamped One X
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
Sometime after the official announcement from Google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
How are we supposed to know?

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I dont know why this stuff is scary to some people. We couldn't have our phones do cool stuff without it.

And as for the Notification API you mentioned, I think the new Hangouts app is already using it. When I'm at home, and I get a notification, i will get it on both my phone and tablet. I can choose which device to answer it on and for that chat session, I wont get notifications on my other device and the notification that came in will be marked as read and dismissed automatically on the device I chose not to use. I think its pretty cool.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fifarunnerr:
Yea, I think so too. The notification API is really great and I can't wait until most apps use it.

For the other stuff, the technology behind those APIs is really awesome. I have no idea of apps that have a great use for it(even Google only mentioned more/less frequent updating based on the user's activity), but the technology is way ahead of iOS/WP, so I hope some geniuses will create awesome apps based on those APIs :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I cant wait until Google integrates SMS into hangouts. I believe I read somewhere they were working on that for the future.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fifarunnerr:
Indeed. There's a reason there is phone number verification in the hangouts app. And the fact that they request permissions for receiving/reading/sending SMS messages. They were even planning to integrate Google Voice, which would make it even better :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Weird... so will there be JB 4.2.3 ...? Look the time..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I never knew of the time corresponding with the android version until I read some random comment earlier this week. So yeah, this is kind of interesting.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Platinum™:
This made my day lol well put sir

Sent from my Platinum™ Verizon GS4
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] T-Keith:
Not sure about that. If you click on a person without an Gmail address from hangouts it asks if you want to send them a text message about hangouts. I'm pretty sure that is the reason for the permission. I'm not sure you cab read more into it than that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/google-hangouts-sms-soon/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
Well, maybe we expect 4.2.3 (which is still Jelly Bean), and sometime later - 4.3 Key Lime Pie? That would make sense IMO
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Hmmm. nope.

I think JB 4.2.3 will be just a minor update and some days later there will be JB 4.3.. but that wouldn't be really possible...

but we'll see it in 10 days.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
I think they can announce both - launch 4.2.3 Jelly Bean on White Nexus 4, then launch 4.3 Key Lime Pie on new Nexus 7 in July, and then launch 5.0 in November with Nexus 5
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
But JB 4.3 Dev release has seen on N4 so it's jelly bean and not key lime pie. ;)

And it's pretty sure that JB 4.3 will be released really soon..

= Gmail version and the time in the picture and in the video + smaller clock... (androidpolice.com) ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I wonder if we will see any hint or "easter egg" in the upcoming movie The Internship. That would be kind of cool of Google. We all know how much they like their easter eggs
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Why in the world would they release so many Android updates in a row? And people should stop saying 5.0 will be key lime pie. AFAIK it has not been announced officially.

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Am I the only one that thinks Android firmware should have a look for phone and one for tablet. Something new that makes you know you are using a tablet and not a giant phone.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pfmiller:
Something new, like Android 4.1?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
We've already been there with 2.x as pure phone IS and 3.x made specifically for tablets.

But it seems that Google wants to unify the interface across all devices, removing the Tablet UI from 4.1 was that kind of a step.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] madd0g:
Google just did it to stir up the hype about the version and etc. And you're all wasting brain cycles pretending to assume what it means.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
I really don't know what the fuss is about over a minor update like 4.3, you won't even see any changes besides some behind the scenes bug fixes, with every update they usually break more stuff than they try to fix especially with older phones like gnex, only phone that will benefit will be the n4.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
xD really?

hahaha....

If you think that the only phone "which will benefit" is n4 (what I hate more than S4)... then go to buy N4 and use it.

Minor update with fixes doesn't break actually anything, changing to new Android version from x.x to y.x with a lot of modifications and fixed can break some things..

the changes you can see in JB 4.3:

1. New camera interface

2. Different (smaller) clock size in status bar

And hopefully more things too. There won't be a lot new stuff, only fixes and some other things.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] -Jesco-:
and all minor fixes usually means more smoothness and less system hiccups :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Yep! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
I guess we'll see but 4.2 has left a bad taste in my mouth so I'm expecting the worst...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cristi_10:
i agree
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Google needs to get off it's ass and deliver faster bug fixes. I know I will get flamed, but it's the truth.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Especially when you break important features... Bug fixes should be out in 3-5 weeks...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
I'm with you...:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Actually all these debates are pointless, just use our devices, be it a iPhone or an android device..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smileyanz:
Most important thing is FREEDOM/OPEN SOURCE. Its great we can share all our creative work with one another without all that nonsense, end off!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] sendhiloo7:
Can you please guys stop from here IOS vs android..

Please discuss about upcoming updates in this thread
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Castro27:
That would be awesome but I don't think it's the case. It's likely they won't fix the bugs and blame it on the "weak" hardware.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] himu007:
Really excited to see Android 4.3 for my Galaxy Nexus. But can't do anything until Google is going to announce. HTC One Google Edition will get Android 4.3 shortly after release. But do we know the exact date? Would love to get it soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] smileyanz:
Think u r rite, feeling things will have to wait until KLP!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] AntonyStark:
They would've just fixed the bugs so this is probably true.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Starsream88:
I think that galaxy nexus too will get the next jb update

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/06/11/android-4-3-jelly-bean-leaks-increase-before-release/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
they're probably busy patching the obad malware

:eek: :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PenguinxEnjoi:
My bad. I'm just gonna make an ios vs android thread instead. (not being sarcastic)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
aaaand it'll come down in flames :rolleyes::p :D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] slayr76:
How long has it been already since 4.2.2 came out, feels like a year ago, what going on google.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
Approx. 4 months
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
4.2.2 was released Feb 11, 2013.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jelly_Bean_(operating_system)#Android_4.1.2F4.2_Jelly_Bean
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] FrankHH:
Still, we guys want new toys. So hurry up, Google!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Android 4.3 Monday July 1st.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Any reason why you expect it then?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Just wanted to sprinkle some life into this thread. It is possible!

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ericaraj:
The Nexus 7 came out on July 13, the Nexus 4 and 10 came out on November 13, the Galaxy Nexus on November 17, and the Nexus S on December 16. Only the Nexus One didn't come out in the teens of the month. I think it's a safe bet that the new 7, and therefore Android 4.3, will be arriving in the teens of July.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
Lol, that was my B-day:D
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] aharnick2013:
Im very confused by Google. So far we had 4.1 Jelly Bean and 4.2 Jelly Bean. I can honestly say im out of my zone about 4.3.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
I dont get what you're saying. If you look at the history of Android, they have had the same name for multiple versions of mostly every major release. Or is that not what you are getting at?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
1.6 Cupcake, ...., 2.1 Eclair, 2.2 Froyo, 2.3 Gingerbread, 3.0 Honeycomnb, 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich

Yeah, same name, totally
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ickwonder:
From what i remember honeycomb was 3.0, 3.1, and 3.2...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
They've only done a .1 increase with the same name once before. Eclair was 2.0 and 2.1. Gingerbread had some .0.1 increases, say from 2.3 - 2.3.7.

Personally, I don't care what the call any version of Android. As long as they make improvements to the experience, I'm good with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jsgraphicart:
Android 2.0 Eclair

Android 2.0.1 Eclair

Android 2.1 Eclair

Android 2.2–2.2.3 Froyo

Android 2.3–2.3.2 Gingerbread

Android 2.3.3–2.3.7 Gingerbread

Android 3.0 Honeycomb

Android 3.1 Honeycomb

Android 3.2 Honeycomb

Android 4.0–4.0.2 Ice Cream Sandwich

Android 4.0.3–4.0.4 Ice Cream Sandwich

Android 4.1 Jelly Bean

Android 4.2 Jelly Bean
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
Should honeycomb even count as an OS version? Kernel source was never released. It was only on tablets, never a Nexus type device, and it was a stop-gap measure for Android to get its house in order from a design standpoint.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] PVL_93_RU:
Well, it was a kind of checkpoint between 2.x on phones and 4.x on every device you can imagine today (TVs, glasses, phones, tablets, mini-PCs, car consoles, ...)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kustaa:
I read somewhere that someone says that 4.3 will come out on July :P. Don't know for what device...probably N7 II
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Winesnob:
GS4 and HTC One will ship from the Play Store by July 9. 4.3 will probably push that week.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] fifarunnerr:
The source code of honeycomb was released together with ICS. They had a Motorola Xoom which was announced with Android 3.0, and received (instant, nexus-like) updates until 4.1 Jelly Bean. I'd call that a Nexus type device :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msavic6:
Yeah the Motorola Xoom was a Google Experience Device but only in the states, the rest of the world was updated by Motorola. I still use my Xoom daily and the only thing holding It back is the tegra 2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] evil_penguin:
http://androidcommunity.com/android...on-samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-20130628/
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ipernexus:
is already on the internet a firmware with Android 4.3 flashabile on galaxy s4!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Soldier 2.0:
Android is all about speculation.

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Ashtrix:
Lets hope it'll be optimized for all-hardware similar to that of iOS approach :cool: :victory:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Someone rip out the apps.

Beamed from my Maguro.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Quinny899:
Someone lives under a rock. We had them yesterday
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] paarthdesai:
lol i also read this on android police :p

nothing has been changed.. wtf..

fake story it seems to me... hopefully its just not an edited build. prop

sent from my sexy Nexy ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] lars1216:
1.5 was cupcake. 1.6 was donut.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Carlos_Manuel:
Something is changes!

Settings have few new things under WiFi settings..

Uses less RAM memory..

New files in framework folder:

media_cmd.jar, voip-common.jar, wm.jar, new files in bin, lib and app folder too!

I compared JB 4.2.2 Sysetm Dump to JB 4.3 ROM...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
So it uses less Random Access Memory memory? ;)