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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Final Version is Online!

ATTENTION PLEASE​

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I'm not sure if anybody have noticed but yesterday my thread for NOTE 3 has been locked down, and all my stuff (for Odin) has been removed!

I went mental and my reaction nearly costed me my Contributor title.. :(

Anyway, once pushed hard, I came up with something new.. I've explored "VEGA EXPLOIT" and realized that it is just tip of an Iceberg! You can do many, many things using this "EXPLOIT Window" which works like backdoor access to your phone....

So, here we go...

From NOW ON, my KNOX_0x0 ROM's are called MEGA ROM's and they will be patched with KNOX_0x0 (key) and can be used with my KNOX_0x0 auto-scripts ONLY!!!

De_La_Vega_Root Script DOESN'T work on MEGA ROM's!! Delete it please....I'm sorry for any incovenience

Auto-Script's basically works like "custom recovery" without need for one.. Modifications to System Partition ONLY!

Be careful as going too far with modifications can trigger KNOX to 0x1!!!! (in theory, not tested in practice yet)

This is how it works, for example, copy KNOX_0x0_EXPOSED_SLIM to your internal SD and after just ONE REBOOT it will:

- remove old root& busybox

- remove KNOX apps

- BackUp & Remove most of Bloatware (backup will be created on /sdcard/KNOX_0x0_XPOSED_SLIM/BackUp - 370MB - JB 4.2.2 & 4.3)

- Root with latest Superuser

- install busybox

Reboot again to make Superuser work correctly..

More Auto-Scripts coming sooon, including DeOdexed Slim Script ....

ROOTING instructions (for MEGA ONLY!!!):

1. Remove the external SDcard (just in case and if you have one)

2. Extract and copy the contents of KNOX_0x0.zip*** (Included in ROM / Root + BusyBox only) to the root of the internal storage

KNOX_0x0.sh

KNOX_0x0 (folder names will vary, do not rename anything!)

3. Reboot - VERY Important!

4. After fully booting delete KNOX_0x0.sh

5. Reboot - EXTREMELY Important!

6. Reinsert the external SDCard (if you have one) and ENJOY!!!

*** or you can use one of additional Automatic scripts instead. Extra features added, fully working!

- KNOX_0x0_XPOSED - (KNOX FREE + SuperSU + Xposed Framework + Wanam Xposed)

- KNOX_0x0_XPOSED_SLIM - (as above + "Bloatware/KNOX BackUp" + "DeBloated" (~370MB will be removed/backed up)

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OP has been updated with new links and Instructions!

enjoy!!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Aerodeath:
I'm so touched... you turned their actions into a motivation...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] avinashadvani:
Well done Mate !!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] leon0602:
So DjeMBeY I can use Mega's Rom and get root with KNOX_0x0.zip without any trouble?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yes! :)

Both ROM's has been re-patched with my own key..

You MUST use KNOX_0x0.sh to make it work.... if you use root_de_la_vega.sh it WON'T work on my ROM's never, ever again.. :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] narco14:
I can flash knox 0*0 xposed on mj3 root de la vega or not ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
You will prepare full working version without new boot loader, flashable via recovery and with custom kernel (for example KT) ??

To be honest with you, I still want to avoid this new boot loader :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mrachni:
It looks that updates to 4.3 has started!

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/10/17...cial-android-4-3-update/#.Ul_Fmo3Gt6k.twitter

---------- Post added at 01:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:13 PM ----------

It looks that updates to 4.3 has started!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
NO!! Nothing will happened.. You can download it , extract it and go to folder KNOX_0x0_XPOSED and install from there, manually..

1 - Xposed

2 - Wanam

Set up everything and then Restart ;)

Yeah, I'll try to make one today, I was extremely frustrated after yesterday events and focused on KNOX_0x0.sh ..

I'm DeOdexing it right now and first, will test "KNOX_0x0_DeOdexed Auto-Script" and then I'll have a look at CWM version..

Stay tuned ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
W8 !! official on the way :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ibis69:
[MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION], any plan of starting a new thread for mega rom on note 3 ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yeah! That's true!! No point then... I'll just test DeODexing Script and have all ready to go for the Official FW ;)

Use ECHOE ROM for now if you want to test JB 4.3.. :p

Not sure though!! I'm still waiting for explanation of their actions and then we'll see... I won't beg for it... ;)

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Thanks a LOT for ALL very kind and motivating PM's!! It mean a lot to me!! Much appreciated!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Bizzy_B:
I'm proud of Mr DjE :)

So I'll wait for your Version of the official system.

You must take care of telling which version can be used. People with the new bootloader can't go back to your versions with the old bbootloader versions, as far as I understand
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Cheers mate!! :)

Yeah, it's quite simple, once you on NEW KNOX bootloader you can't go back to NON-KNOX bootloaders (XXUBMH8 or older).. nothing changes..

The ONLY possible change, no more DeOdexed ROM's for Odin, use Auto-Scripts instead..

Very easy to use:

1- copy& paste to internal SD and reboot,

2 - delete KNOX_0x0.sh and reboot, DONE! :)

This way, everyone will install the same ROM (Odex) and afterwards they will just Customize it the way they want.. ;) (hopefully without tripping the KNOX flag.. )
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] acme1974:
But this is a new way for supersu or if i have Knox 0x1 diventa knox 0x0 in download mode? Sorry for English

Thank

Inviato dal mio GT-I9505 con Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] MisQo:
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE (GT-I9505) receives official Android 4.3 update

Model: GT-I9505

Country: Germany

Version: Android 4.3

Changelist: 1869009

Build date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:54:31 +0000

Product Code: DBT

PDA: I9505XXUEMJ5

CSC: I9505OXAEMJ5

MODEM: I9505XXUEMJ5

I wait for Official Build of GT-I9505 Modified Stock Packages (Android 4.3)

- Pre-Rooted

- Unbranded

- DeOdexed

- DeBloated

- Zipaligned

- Super-SLIM

- Device Status - OFFICIAL

- Fully working OTA and KIES updates

Thanks :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mrachni:
Germany first is avalible for download!

GT-I9505	Germany	2013 October	4.3	I9505XXUEMJ5	I9505OXAEMJ5
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
thanks Dejmbey for your hard work

can't live without your roms.

with the officila FW it will more perfect!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Bizzy_B:
I'm not a developer, so I never saw any main differences between odex and deodex.

As long as someone like you continues his work and it's possible to stay custom without knox problems, I'm happy.

As soon as I have some bucks again, I'll donate once again. I don't know if you got the possibility for turkish tea in the U.K., but you can have also beer :D

Cheers ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Audioboxer:
Am I right in saying even on the old bootloader I should be able to use 4.3? I thought WiFi was broken if you didn't use the new bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
So LET's COOKING :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] chickentuna:
Yes, but you need to use Echoe rom. The rom cook was able to make sound, wifi and calls to work while on an old bootloader. The deal breaker is signal loss on screen off when mobile data (3g or lte) is ON 2g/EDGE is not affected though. Smart stay seems to be broken as well. Everything else is what you'd expect from 4.3 like sky high benchmarks, open gl 3.0, smoother UI (scrolling, transitions, animations and the likes), etc..
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yes you can, but you WILL GET STUCK with New Bootloaders/FW as you WON'T be able go back to old FW... READ MORE PLEASE!! :)

I'm on it!! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Script is working well :)

Here you go guys, I've created bootloader-free version (just for testing..) and ALL WORKS WELL!! :) (my WiFi is messing with me but I know for sure that it's just me..)

Final version will have latest bootloaders included due to KNOX flag because if anybody with 0x0 flash bootloader-free version , it WILL trip the flag as there's FW written in Bootloader, if they don't match, bang.. 0x1.. :p

I'm going to test latest Bootloader if it can be reverted back to 4.2.2 and if so, uploading straight away..

Few screenshots after using Script KNOX_0x0_XPOSED_SLIM (Blotware-BackUp stored on internal SD) .. ;)

Stay tuned ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] chickentuna:
So if I understand it correctly, the official 4.3 works with old bootloader without knox? If so that's great news!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] talexop:
That was fast! ;)

So do you think it will be possible to upload a version without the bootloader for all of us that we currently have the old bootloader?

Does this version needs the new bootloader to work fully?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
NO!!! Odin version will NEVER, EVER work with Old Bootloaders!! (Custom Kernel/ROM ONLY)

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Bad news!!!!!!!!!!!

New Bootloader is COMPLETELY IRREVERSIBLE!!!!!!!! Once you on it .... NO GOING BACK to 4.2.2 , NOT even to latest 4.3 leak... :(

Except of that, NO ISSUES :)

In this case I'm going to upload 2 versions:

- Fully loaded for everyone with 0x0

- Bootloader-Free for the rest of you with 0x1

I'm stuck with the new one anyway.. you all welcome :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
why trying to revert back to 4.2.2 if 4.3 FW is the official one?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Hahaha, you never know what people want to do with their phones.. I bet you that soon some of them will say that 4.2.2 was better and they going to start moaning about... "Why we can't go back to 4.2.2???" :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] assanches:
[MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION]

Can I install ZTO CSC to your ROM??
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] pecora:
HAHAHAH you are right!!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Bizzy_B:
I don't expect so. 4.3 is a great one with great achievements. They'll have to go 4.3 in some weeks. So why wait if it's working. The only question I'm having is, is it possible to bang over official kies rom over the pre-rooted without knoxing the galaxy if somebody wants to sell it?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Rajada:
Hi

You may need firmware 4.2.2 for warranty, or to sell the phone

Remember, does not yet exist firmware 4.3 for all csc
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Unfortunately NO, you MUST keep CSC from JB 4.3 otherwise your Keyboard will FC non-stop and some other issues.. CSC form 4.2.2 is NOT compatible with 4.3 ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
i know but they can also ask to revert back to 4.1

i'm quite sure that you won't provide any support

good luck

if i don't want to keep 4.3, can i move forward to 4.4? :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] assanches:
Thanks :good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] matanb:
Hi,

Probably a stupid question but when I flash the new rom, does it change my phone's CSC? Or does it change only if I specifically flash a new CSC file?

Second question - Does flashing a STOCK 4.3 ROM (with a different CSC than what I currently have) change the KNOX flag?

Thanks!!

Matan.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] www1:
[MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION]

Thanks for you work.

I suggest to make a Superslim CWM rom of new official J5 4.3

using friedrich420 method

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2487202

and suggest to flash new Modem for LTE drop signal problem.

It's good for anyone have (like me) a old bootloader and doesn't want to upgrade to new bootloader.

:D

So we can have a 4.3 TW rom with all new features without knox counter problem.

It's a perfect rom for me.

:o

If anyone want ask this rom please thank this post.

Thanks also DjeMBeY for all your fantastic work in samsung rom.

:good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
How about lovely recovery version for old boot loader ? You checked what you can do with this final one ?

Thx and advance
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] oliver005:
Guys, I've flashed MJ5 on top of MJ3 without wipes. Everything except WiFi works fine. Anything I can try to enable WiFi without reinstalling from scratch? I do have backups but some small fix like flashing modem or something would be much faster. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] xfalax:
We may update this ROM for odin?

http://www.androidfilehost.com/?a=show&w=files&flid=8626
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] wanxu:
Thanks DjeMBeY for all your work! Waiting for your knox 0x0 version with root :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ra6o74:
[MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION]

My knox is 0x1, and I have just one single question:

If I flash official 4.3, can I use your script "ROOT_KNOX_0x0_XPOSED_SLIM" to root it, or I have to wait your MEGA build?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] xfalax:
Not out yet? look in your server links and are today .... then I can not update?

What is the difference of the two ROM to download?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
CSC is included (8 codes) check post #4 for more details , look for any OXA.... ;) It will change if your current one is NOT on the list, then you will have CSC_DBT ;)

CWM version - Work in progress... Links tomorrow.. maybe... :p

Here you go : XXUEMJ5-WiFi-FIX (open in Odin as PHONE)

Guys, READ MORE PLEASE!!

My SCRIPTS are NOT working on ANY other ROM/FW !!!!

It works ONLY on patched MEGA ROM's

Cappish now?? :p

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Uploading both versions:

XXUEMJ5-ODEX-MEGA-KNOX_0x0

XXUBMJ5-ODEX-MEGA-BOOTLOADER-FREE - KNOX 0x1!!!!!

stay tuned ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] 0kti:
is there restriction if I have knox 0x1

can I still flash XXUEMJ5-ODEX-MEGA-KNOX_0x0 or not?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
new boot loader means no custom roms or GE AOSP ??

Someone checked it already ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] azsde:
Can't we avoid the rom wipe if we're going for the MEGA XXUEMJ3 :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] :
CRT is still missing
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
0x1 mean that you can flash ANYTHING YOU WANT!! :p

???????? It means KNOX 0x1 if you try!! :p

NO... Why do you want to try Leaked FW if we have Official one?????????? :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] azsde:
Well i'll be damned ! I didn't see the XXUEMJ5 rom :p

Waiting for the upload to be finished and i'll download it :victory:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] reckoner_85:
Guys I have few questions, warranty is effectively useless to me, is there anything else about Knox I should be worried about? also can I downgrade to say a 4.2.2 Omega rom if I want to if anything goes wrong? that's all thanks in advance.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
Yep I know that quoting myself it's kind a dump move, but this one is really important :P
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Faschoda:
If you don't care about warranty, you can flash whatever you desire! As far as i know if you flash the new Bootloader (from 4.3) you can't convert to old Bootloader. But you can flash older ROMs. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] donalgodon:
I realize that flashing back and forth from Stock to CM/AOSP will result in Knox Warranty 0x1, but if we don't care about that, is there any functional problem with doing so?

1) I mean, we can still have fully functional ROMs on both Stock and CM/AOSP side, correct, or does something else get broken?

2) When your MEGA ROM based on the stock 4.3 gets released, will it just be a flash via Odin package and will it include modem, bootloader, etc. or is there a way to use the old Knox-Free bootloader at this point?

3) I've been on CM so long that I'm a bit out of the loop on this aspect of the bootloader. I knew that initially things were broken by the old bootloader, but is that still the case?

4) Can MEGA give us SE Linux Permissive status? Does Titanium Backup, and other root apps work with MEGA?

Thanks to anyone who can tackle these! :silly:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
You are wrong :D newest boo tloader means = NO OLDER ROMS and I still don't know how about custom roms or GE AOSP.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] reckoner_85:
I'd like to know about that as well, I'm having a great experience with Omega v10 at the moment and I'm not sure if 4.3 will be as good.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Wow! Stop! Who said so? I was talking about Odin version!

I didn't test CWM on latest bootloader but I think that you can flash it without any problems except for KNOX 0x1 :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] lmerega:
Guys, WiFi fix is mandatory to make the phone work on official 4.3 Mega ROM?

Have I to flash as "Phone" in Odin?

Thx
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Faschoda:
Ouh okay. Thanks for letting me know! Didn't know that.:good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] reckoner_85:
Odin version of older roms?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
but I have only ODIN version on my mind !!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] www1:
Can't wait.

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Thanks

:good::good::good::good::good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kafej666:
Yep I know ;) I'm still on old boot loader without knox information :P W8 for u awesome clean recovery version.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Gringo49:
Excuse me, i have 2 questions:

1 - With Original Stock ROM, can i update with OTA (official update) ?

2 - What is the difference between the official and the MEGA ?

Thank you
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] pitcher85:
You are only talking about STOCK ROMs, right?

So if I am anyways already warranty void 1 I can still flash any custom ROM after flashing the new bootloader or not?

Cannot wait to use your new Mega ROM and try the slim script! :)

Thanks a lot for your hard work :good:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] oliver005:
Too bad it's not working. Flashed it with 1.85 and 3.09 as Phone but still no WiFi.

UPDATE: It did work after more work. Flashed MJ5 without wipes again and then flashed your fix = profit.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Masami1975:
the 0x0 files are in the rom zip?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] azsde:
1 - Yes, you can but you won't be rooted, it's a fully original rom.

2 - Official means that there's not patch to avoid the Knox 0x1 when rooting, MEGA means that the rom is patched so that the device can be rooted without triggering the Knox 0x1, with MEGA the Knox flag stays at 0x0 :victory:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] pitcher85:
Read the flashing instructions in OP carefully ;)

Or use one of the other scripts provided.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] xPr0metheus:
Wow, so many (bad) things happened and I didn't read the thread for only few hours. Unbelievable.

So, first, I very very appreciate Dj that you take all this as a motivation to find new ways. Most other people would've stopped their work and would've said f*** you idiots. Thank you for staying here and sharing your great work with us! And I would really like to know why the hell the mod treated you like that. You don't deserve such bad treatment.

Now back to topic:

Do I understand the purpose of the bootloader free version right to keep the possibility to revert back to 4.2 builds? And is there any disadvantage if we stay with old bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] pecora:
Yes, you have no sounds, no wifi, etc
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jjnhl68:
Totally agree on this. That is hard coded in human nature, like knox in our phones. We always want more than anything something that is out of reach...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yes, I'm talking about STOCK FW.. I haven't try to install CWM (yet) but I'll when testing CWM MJ5 (most-likely tonight)

Thanks mate! :)

You should see me yesterday, first thing in the morning, barely opened my eyes and WTF???!!!???!!!??! I was steaming, swearing and god knows what... I don't mind if someone proof me wrong or something but I haven't done anything wrong and being treated this way.. :( but fortunately for all of you guys, I'm this kind of person who need to get really angry to make progress or break some stuff... physically or mentally.. doesn't matter.. :p I barely slept last night, preparing scripts for today launch and testing them out.. I was over the moon when my "theory" worked well in "practice".. ;)

Anyway, the Bootloader-FREE MEGA ROM is for those who are NOT sure if want to stick with 4.3 for good and have KNOX 0x1 already.. It's more for fun though... fully working but not for Virgins.. :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Gringo49:
Merci !! Thanks you very much. I understand now.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] xPr0metheus:
Mhh, if I should guess, maybe you did something Samsung doesn't want to see? You cannot know how big their influence is. (These are really wild theories)

However, I wished I had your attitude. I am even too lazy to stand up every morning and noone needs to treat me bad therefore^^
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
The Real Thing! :)

XXUEMJ5-Odex-MEGA-KNOX_0x0-Full is Online!!!

Latest bootloaders included!! Bootloader-Free MJ5 is still uploading...

DOWNLOAD: Android Host

enjoy!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] friedrich420:
I didnt get it either man and it sadddens me!!! :(

WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU DO AND WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU FOR THAT!!!

You are a GREAT DEV and we THANK YOU!!!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] expl0de:
Im downloading and I'll test in a few minutes. I wonder, after I delete

KNOX0x0.sh, should I also delete KNOX0x0 folder?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] StuartTheFish:
I asked this a few days ago, but never saw a reply so I'll ask again.

If I were to upgrade to the new bootloader, or downgrade depending on how you look at it, how can you flash any zip files without tripping the Knox counter? Or can't you?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] sangalaviral:
Since you are uploading bootloader free version... Does that mean that this rom works fully without the bootloader unlike other leaked 4.3 roms?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Seriously??? I'm going to say it for the last time:

NO CUSTOM RECOVERIES NOR KERNEL NOR ANYTHING CUSTOM if you want to keep KNOX at 0x0.........

The END! :)

Doesn't really matter, you can delete though... but if you use KNOX_0x0_XPOSED_SLIM is better to keep it as your "deleted apps backup" will be stored inside this folder ;)

Yes but ONLY if you have KNOX Bootloader installed.. It (probably) won't work on KNOX-Free Bootloaders same as before.... :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Bizzy_B:
Dude there is standing that after flashing you put the *.sh file and the folder and restart after that. Then you have to delete what you put on the internal sd (the *.sh file and the folder) and restart again

'' okay Dj got the answer :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] donalgodon:
Is it correct that flashing MEGA-KNOX Full is pre rooted with SuperSU binaries already included?

Is SELinux set to enforcing or permissive? I ask because I want to use Titanium Backup and give root access to apps, etc.

At this point, I don't have a Knox bootloader, but I'm sorta' chomping at the bit to try out the new 4.3.

Should I just wait til the Knox Free uploads and will it be fully functional and pre-rooted?

I guess the bottom line is this: I'm going to end up with a tripped Knox flag anyway if I want to use CWM recovery, no matter which version I use, so does it matter? :confused:

I mean, I need Knox bootloader to run any of the stock ROMs anyway, and I'll be using CWM recovery, so it's unavoidable. My biggest question is about the level of root access and enforcing status.