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[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I'm not a developer. And the N4 is hardly considered a developer device. Even JBQ from Google has mentioned the licensing issues with the N4 prevent them from releasing everything.
[Nexus 4 General] TheManii:
That was a few months ago, before JDQ39. That point forwards the N4 is one of the best supported devices according to JBQ because everything was able to be released.
[Nexus 4 General] JNewms:
The Nexus 4 is totally a developer device, that's one of the main reasons for nexus devices. Yes, a lot of people who aren't developers buy it, but that doesn't change its purpose. Every dev that I know owns a Nexus 4, usually along with a secondary device for multi device testing.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I didn't say people don't use it to develop for Android. That has nothing to do with being a developer device. Google no longer calls Nexus devices, developer phones.

Anyways, none of this has to do with 4.3.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
The actual binaries were untouched. The MD5s and SHA-1's are exactly the same. The only thing that changed is the updated title. It now says JDQ39 to JDQ39E, which clarifies which builds the files work on. Whether or not this means an imminent update is yet to be known.
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Actually on the changelig for E they did fix the recents animation and it was a few little things its not exactly the same as the previous
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
What does that have to do with the binaries? The binaries are not a part of the Android source code.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
I am not saying that there were no changes to the OS from JDQ39 to JDQ39E, however, the proprietary binaries are unchanged and the changes you mentioned are irrelevant to the binaries.
[Nexus 4 General] ericaraj:
Do you have a link to the changelog?
[Nexus 4 General] Testraindrop:
The E version was released like 2months ago to AOSP, you can try to find the changelog on a site like Android Police.

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[Nexus 4 General] tarroyo:
We'll see come June 10th if Google is smart enough to steal apple's WWDC thunder.
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
This, hopefully Google will release KLP which will be 100 times better than apple's update

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[Nexus 4 General] Cor-master:
Yeah binaries are just drivers, have nothing to do with the os.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
They don't need to steal their thunder with 4.3. I think Google intentionally is downplaying it and showing they can do updates without updating the OS. The whole I/O was about updating services support on all of Android outside of OS updates. I don't foresee 4.3 adding very many user facing features.
[Nexus 4 General] captmiddy:
The one feature a lot of people are waiting for is the true Bluetooth 4 support. This will open the android ecosystem to a lot of newer bluetooth devices. Such as fitness devices that only work with iOS because of a lack of BT4 support on Android. This is rumored to be something coming in 4.3.
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
Weeell well well i wouldnt be so sure. I am an Android lover but the stability of ios is incredible...

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[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
Although iOS is stable and smooth, it doesn't have a lot going on, its a bit simple for me. And its not as if iOS 7 is going to bring much new to the table - I mean, its hard to see a lot of differences between iOS on the first iPhone and iOS 6 now. But Android 1 to Android 4.2.2? And presumably this rate of change for both OSs will carry on?

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[Nexus 4 General] Hreidmar:
You sure? :D

http://www.gsmarena.com/ios_apps_crash_more_often_than_android_apps_study_shows-news-3769.php
[Nexus 4 General] itlnstln:
This and AVRCP 1.3. Of all the things they can fix, this is the one I'm waiting for. This should have been broken/not supported in the first place.

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To play Devil's advocate...

I would also say that Android needed that kind of rapid update pace because it wasn't at iOS's level of stability and speed until ICS (in fact, I don't think the Android experience was all that stellar pre-ICS). Now at JB, major updates will be fewer and farther between. iOS was fairly solid (albeit simple) from the get-go, so it's changes have been more incremental. We'll have to see how big of a change iOS 7 will be if it's announced on Monday (probably so).
[Nexus 4 General] Tom540:
Unfortunately, having played with iPhone 5s a lot, iOS still feels faster than 4.2.2 on my N4, in terms of scrolling being locked to my finger and animations being a bit more fluid. That's just how it feels, though, I couldn't stand to use iOS for more than a few days though, and android has improved hugely

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[Nexus 4 General] itlnstln:
I use both and agree completely. While I don't like the rigid nature of the OS, I love the consistency and fluidity of the UI/UX. Then again, the lack of configurability might be why everything runs as well as it does (fewer moving parts). I think the sluggishness of Chrome on Android contributes a lot to the perception of lagginess. Outside of Chrome, everything seems pretty smooth.

OT: the iOS settings schema is stupid.
[Nexus 4 General] trillo69:
I agree with you both, for me is the only thing I envy from iOS users, the smoothness in all apps I see on my sister's iPhone 5. But i can't deal with so few customization.

By the way, Chrome isn't laggy at all in its v18 build. I keep it unactualized, and also have chrome beta to compare after every update. You can check it yourself, v18 scroll is very smooth.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I guess it is time to lock this thread as it has gone way off the rails. I mean if you guys want to discuss iOS, why don't you just use one of the thousand other threads dedicated to it.
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
I agree
[Nexus 4 General] k0lega:
Enough of this iOS bollocks... Let me get us back on topic with 4.3 rumors and speculation

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/articles/18156/20130607/android-4-3-jelly-bean-release-date.htm
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
That ios discussion made me laugh. A bit of info. Apps on ios statistically crash more often than on android. They just don't have a pop up notification and it silently and sneakily takes you back to the home screen. Boom. I own an ios device and can confirm that.

Oh, and nothing really new in that article linked above.
[Nexus 4 General] Lifehacker7:
I like how this thread is turning into a good ol' "iOS vs android" debate! :P

A Mod might be here soon!
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
Nothing wrong with that imho. Ios has long been an os that set the standards. Android has started off as a geeky thing, but it's mainstream now and finally got to the stage where it comes equal to ios in fluidity. Shame that for now it's only on Nexus devices, to be precise on Nexus 4. So, as long as discussion is balanced and constructive, why not?
[Nexus 4 General] Toledo_JAB:
The main thing wrong is that this thread is not related to a device.

This thread is in the Nexus 4 general section, yet this thread is only talking about 4.3

As there is NO off-topic allowed in the device forums.

And as this thread is not talking about a device.

This thread is closed.

If the OP wants me to move this discussion to the Android General forum I will, just send me the request via PM.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
You mean how iOS7 will copy Android features again? Google has actually been innovating. Just because Google won't release KLP during the I/O, doesn't mean 4.3(or whatever it is) won't come with welcome and perhaps innovative features. Remember that 4.1 brought Project Butter, and that was only a point release.
[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
Idc if they will copy or not. I know competition is awesome and I hope ios7 brings something new. I would never use ios though. 4.3 vs 5.0 there is huge difference. 4.3 offers no interface changes. 5.0 would have been huge upgrade.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
iOS 7 will bring a redesign in GUI. That is almost certain. The rumor is a finger scanner function in the next iPhone. So the software will make use of that. With the finger scanner, I read that it will go hand in hand with NFC. It's more for digital banking and all that kind of stuff, to prevent fraud and identity theft

Now that's something that will be a killer thing in the market, if Apple pulls it off. If they do, expect Samsung to scramble a bit

Also, I don't think Samsung can dictate to Google what to do. If Google wants to release 5.0, then they will. That's OEMs' fault for being so darn slow

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[Nexus 4 General] maurocds:
4.2.2 is so 2012

i hope 4.3 fix n4 glass XD

just release the thing and stop teasing

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4.2.2 is so 2012

i hope 4.3 fix n4 glass XD

just release the thing and stop teasing
[Nexus 4 General] OrrPenn18:
And then whine about the shabby unfinished job Google has done? Lulz.

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[Nexus 4 General] busab:
Didn't the Motorola Atrix have a finger scanner?
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
Yep it did. And flopped
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
I think the reason why it flopped is because it served almost no purpose. Now if the atrix had NFC and the finger scanner, and used that combo for money handling or whatever else, it would have made Motorola look good, imo

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[Nexus 4 General] Euthye:
Remember remember the 5th of November but without the gunpowder treason and plot:laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] Dannyada1988:
I think Android 5.0 may be unveiled in next year.
[Nexus 4 General] Xmaster8:
Nexus 5... Android 5.0... 5 years since android has been released... I think they will release KLP along with Nexus 5 in fall... In my opinion thats the reason they wont release it on I/O and not beacuse of OEMs.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Priced at $500
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
Which isn't too bad off contract and if it has killer specs still beats the $700-$800 for a HTC one or Galaxy s4 or any other phone
[Nexus 4 General] springy:
It is kinda good that Google is still using the original name, jelly bean for a point upgrade. If they don't they will seriously be running out of desert names. :)

But yea I have a feeling KLP will be saved for more integration with Chrome and the ability to run chrome apps and native client on Android. Now that will be something.
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
4.3 to have

BLE .. Bluetooth low energy

Open GL 3.0
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I hope KLP includes a UI overhaul in order to compete with iOS 7 in the fall.
[Nexus 4 General] Gorjira:
T-minus 11 days. :D That is all. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] z0phi3l:
iOS7 will be just like iOS6 with another "new" feature stolen from Android and not much else, especially now that Apple is leaderless all they can do is copy from the rest and act like it's God's gift to OSes
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
I'm torn here, good to see Google slowing down in releases, but at the same time, if 4.3 releases this month and then 5.0 like five months later, that's gonna be hell for basically any non Nexus phone, just adding to already horrible fragmentation issues.

Updates might as well do a 6 month cycle, one new moderate update in May and another one in Nov/Dec.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Unless OEMs just skip 4.3 and go straight to 5.0
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
Or worse, probably use 4.3 as an excuse to get out another update, be done with them, and then skip 5.0 as they can say "well, we've been giving you updates"
[Nexus 4 General] iPathik:
If Google had the carriers in mind, and the OEMs then the ideal situation would be to release Android 5.0 and get everyone updated to it and release a small update in November like they did with the N4, the major overhaul in JellyBean came at IO and the small update to 4.2 was released with N4
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Hence why I'm married to the nexus brand.

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[Nexus 4 General] Arzee08:
Yeah seen this too, could be right. 4.0 was ICS 4.1 and .2 was jelly bean. Why not?
[Nexus 4 General] uio88:
i've found other versions that confirm 4.3 JWR39B JWR36
[Nexus 4 General] DaveCosta:
If it's not a major update, it's one more reason to wait for the ROMs to update, instead of going back to stock...
[Nexus 4 General] iPathik:
Based on the session names at IO I'm guessing that we are gonna get a gaming overhaul in 4.3
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
I hope its more to it cause i hardly play games so i couldnt care less about that

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[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
What is the point of having a quad-core smartphone with 2gb ram & 4.7" screen.

If you don't play games or anything ?

Kinda pointless...
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
It's good for reading, the flip animations are more the smoother and runs at 60 frames. The extra cores has also improved my reading accuracy given the IPS color contrast too.

Did you know that the krait wirelessly runs in an asynchronous mode with the human cortex to boost theoretical IPC? For instance if you're watching a video on your nexus it can offload visual processing onto the adreno from the retina.
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Games aren't the only thing you can use high-powered Android devices for.

In my experience though, I can barely stand gaming on my Nexus 4, or even reading. I suppose if it was my only device, then it would suffice, but I prefer my Nexus 10 much more. My main reasons for getting the Nexus 4 were:

- Carrier unlocked (not buying a phone if I can't use it anywhere I go)

- Bootloader unlockable (not buying a phone if I can't do whatever I want with it)

- Development

- Google/Nexus (stock Android, first updates, AOSP)

- The back (glass back with the pattern, it's awesome)

- Tethering (to my Nexus 10)

- The experience (never personally owned an Android phone; started with a Galaxy Tab and then a Nexus 7, then Nexus 10)

My main device prior to that was a Nexus 10. I kind of took it's screen size for granted for a while now, but it made me appreciate it a whole lot more after using my Nexus 4 for a bit :p

But with that said, the Nexus 4 isn't a bad device at all. I like it, and I'm happy with my purchase. Couldn't imagine buying any other phone :good:
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Your reasons are right on with my reasons. That's why I got a nexus 4 as well. My next device will be a nexus 7, the supposed new one
[Nexus 4 General] El Daddy:
I have zero games on my phone. I guess I should get rid of it...
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
The krait CPU wirelessly communicates with the human ?brain?. Please I beg, tell me more.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Aye, you see many technologies are capable of boosting the primitive human capabilities. It has been millions of years since our hardware have seen evolution, but with modern electronics like krait we can be competitive with machines once more.

The advanced krait architecture is not a normal cortex. You see Arm creates micro cortexes originally blueprinted from Mr.holding's remains, he was a genius in his era. But I digress, krait's design feature cortex cores that send emps to the human brain. Our bodies transmit electricity to our organs, however a krait can interrupt normal functionality as an extension to our very self.

I briefly studied augmented technology during my downtime time, sadly I have yet to grasp even the full potential of micro processors that can prerender content prior to even our own cortex--the GPU on the other hand can allow your retina to analyze content in UHD and higher, also 120fps is possible. Prior to these innovations the retina's usage would be high, which is why our vision experiences high levels of degradation too.

If you wish to learn more on augmentation I reckon you attend some classes in your free time. :)
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Don't forget to update your sig. According to it you haven't got your Nexus 4 yet. :)
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Heh, I looked at my sig a few times today and thought "I'll change it eventually"; finally got around to it :p
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Why play games on a cell phone screen when u can play wayy better looking games on the big flat screen tv off a ps3 or 360

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[Nexus 4 General] JaMeVu:
Where ? :)

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[Nexus 4 General] Underground_XI:
So true!
[Nexus 4 General] Scottyfer:
Because I can sync a ps3 controller to my phone and wirelessly display over 100,000 console games on my tv?
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
not only that, a ps3 is not portable. i go to college and on my free time, what if i want to put in a few minutes in a game? i wont be carrying a ps3, but i will have my phone or tablet. on the go gaming is a good time killer.
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Realistically. If your not using it for gaming it's pointless.

An old dual core will do the job just fine!
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Why browse the web or watch videos on a cell phone screen when you can view both on a much bigger computer monitor from your desktop?

Because you can.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
A single core like the hummingbird is still sufficient for tasks. I was gonna buy a Nexus S but then I saw how cheap the n4 was for the speed.
[Nexus 4 General] netodroid:
Android 10.0... can't wait! :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] Laserbait:
Realistically, gaming on a tiny 4.7" screen is pointless. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] avocco:
I've got a PS3 and a 50inch TV. But for 95% of the time I have no access to either of them. The only chance I have at gaming is on my phone, and even 5 minutes of gaming on a 4.7inch screen is better than nothing.
[Nexus 4 General] ziddey:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy

Display: Reflective STN LCD[34] 160 × 144 pixels[31]

Frame Rate: Approx. 59.7 frames per second on a regular Game Boy, 61.1 on a Super Game Boy[35]

Vertical Blank Rate: Approx 1.1 ms[35]

Screen size: 66 mm (2.6 in) diagonal[29]

Pointless.
[Nexus 4 General] ismethajametovic:
Realistically, gaming on a phone is pointless. :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] k0lega:
I've enjoyed gaming on my phones since my original Evo 4g! I spend more time running old PSX games on my phone with enhanced graphics than I do on my 360. It's good to have 20/20 vision too:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] drakester09:
Realistically, your usage pattern and opinions on that regard will differ from others.

I find no issues gaming on a phone but others might.

I have been gaming since the old Java ME days and still enjoy it nowadays.
[Nexus 4 General] Infekxion:
The whole portable gaming/console gaming is personal preference. COD, Metal Gear, Assassins Creed great on a console for those that have the time. Birds, Piggies, Candy Crush, good portable ways to kill time at work or school. Back to Android, Nexus owners will ALWAYS be a version ahead of everyone else. Most of us don't need a revolution yet, just evolution; fix the bugs in JB and refine KLP before releasing (in Nov.) It's funny that Google gives us low cost, high end devices with timely updates to the OS and people can still nitpick about the tiniest issue. Also we dont need 8 cores clocked at 2.0 ghz to run stock Android. My Gnex can still compete with my N4 but I dont games and junk.

Sent from a neXus device
[Nexus 4 General] Enhanced:
Such a ridiculous statement.
[Nexus 4 General] Laserbait:
I'm so glad that my sarcasm wasn't lost on everyone.
[Nexus 4 General] :
Well I manage servers, if that counts for using full screen. Makes it easier, imo.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
If that's the case they shouldn't have released a 8GB Nexus 4. Seeing how many AAA title games now are more than 1GB in size.
[Nexus 4 General] melcali:
Realistically, I just took a long sh!t.
[Nexus 4 General] OrrPenn18:
Realistically,
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Anybody know what 4.3 will add?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
BLE & Open GL 3.0 are known.
[Nexus 4 General] linezero:
Wonder if there is going to be any cool UI changes :D
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
I was wondering that myself. I hope so. Any changes they have made in the past I've really liked. :)
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
From what is known, there probably no major UI changes.

That'll save till 5.0.x.
[Nexus 4 General] algorhythm:
BLE is confirmed?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I read HTC leaked ble.
[Nexus 4 General] algorhythm:
Oh sweet, thanks! :)
[Nexus 4 General] espionage724:
Will OGL 3.0 be noticeable to the end-user (will it affect current apps/games)?
[Nexus 4 General] Deeco7:
Realistically, it's all speculation.
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
I heard from my sisters, brothers, uncles, bosses former secretary who knows a guy that worked with the owner of a lawn service that hired a guy who cut the grass of the 3rd baseman of the 1995 San Diego Padres that the App Drawer is being replaced with a port of Google Gadgets to compete with the Metro desktop.
[Nexus 4 General] CyberDonky:
Probably there will come a special update for Nexus devices like 4.2.3 or 4.2.3 etc, but 4.3? I don't think so.

Google I/O on 15 - 17 May will let us know guys :)
[Nexus 4 General] tanjiajun_34:
Doubt so it will be 4.2.3. That will be way too minor update. The 4.2.1 to 4.2.2 is just bugs fixes.The people will be so disappointed if all Google prepared is just fixes and no new features.
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
I thought I ought share this with you guys. It's good stuff.

Please read it if you have not. :thumbup:

http://www.businessinsider.com/andr...&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=mobilesrepublic
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Thats depressing, looks like 4.2.3 it is :(
[Nexus 4 General] scream4cheese:
4.2.3? Really? That sucks big time.
[Nexus 4 General] Google86:
I dont care about if it's 4.2.2.0.0.0.0.0.0.1 as long as it fixes the 3G and wifi issues.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Well since they're going to PUSH Play Games I see 4.3 as being more likely.
[Nexus 4 General] renehd2:
because there isn't going to be any UI changes in the new update doesn't mean that the update wont be big.
[Nexus 4 General] HarmonyFlame:
I'm petty sure he's just trying to lower expectations a bit is all.
[Nexus 4 General] Aerys:
Speculation Speculation Speculation..:silly:

I still think KLP 5.0 will be released =)
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
I really hope you are right! :D
[Nexus 4 General] defffizz:
I don't think he is... Google isn't done with jelly bean yet
[Nexus 4 General] myturbo1:
Shhhh :sly: lol
[Nexus 4 General] Google86:
nexus 5 android 5....

i dont have faith in klp for this io
[Nexus 4 General] randomnoob83:
An update is an update :3
[Nexus 4 General] luiseteyo:
Nahhhh Google released 4.2 just to advance in releases number, cause ios was in 6. Now i am sure they will release klp 5.0

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[Nexus 4 General] Zorachus:
Wait till November. The number "5" will be big :)

- Androids 5th birthday

- Nexus-Five

- Android 5.0 KLP

- 5" Screen
[Nexus 4 General] tylercarter:
THIS!!!!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] styckx:
Hard to believe Android is as young as it is but come as far as it has so quickly.
[Nexus 4 General] renehd2:
All of that but in the 5th month, that means may :D

Hahaha just kidding
[Nexus 4 General] dhurk:
5" is enough for you?
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
For a phone, more than enough.
[Nexus 4 General] gee2012:
No, but the N5 will be lauched the 5th month after june ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Covarrubias:
I think the same, next mayor upgrade will come with next Nexus it´s marketing rule
[Nexus 4 General] ChongoDroid:
*sniff* I'm getting all sentimental. ='D

I effin love you guys
[Nexus 4 General] casonswag:
Android 4.3 today! http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/15/android-4-3-confirmed-ahead-of-io-via-developer-site/
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
You beat me to it. I was about to post the same thing :p. But yes, it is confirmed :D

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[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
Hopefully it will be released today
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
I just want the aosp code pushed today, so cm can be updated to it

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[General Questions and Answers] UnNaMeD__:
Can I upgrade Noir A6 (rebranded Micromax a68) to Jelly Bean?

I am currently on Stock ROM running on ICS 4.0.4