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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bouncynemoss:
I've actually been using 4.1.2 for a long time. I've tried 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 (almost every rom) since everyone says it's smooth. But they all lag for me after I get everything running that I use.

My main problem with 4.2 roms is ram usage, it's actually smooth though. On 4.1.2 after having all my apps running (Imo, Whatsapp, and about 5 other things) I'm left with about 300-380 MB of ram. Which android uses to cache apps, so they open faster.

On 4.2 I'm left with 80-180 MB of ram after a day. It initially starts out with 300 MB but it drops after about 20 minutes of use. I've tried tons of roms and they all have this problem on 4.2. Some 4.2 roms say they have 300 MB of ram, but don't run as snappy as 4.1.2 (The phone is basically instantaneous on 4.1)

4.2 is designed for Nexus 4 sadly :(. Need more ram.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Big ZD:
Can't/shouldn't that be configured appropriately to the device? 4.2 is designed for android devices. Google should have set the ram settings to perform appropriately per device, right?

I expect this issue to be remedied in 4.3. Am I overly optimistic?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bouncynemoss:
I don't think it's a ram settings issue, it's more of the actual OS version using more. I've set my Ram settings to give me more RAM. But all that did was make android start closing my background apps because it just didn't have enough :(. It even closed my music app (songza) in the background to let me web browse. So i couldn't stand using 4.2 anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shriom_manerker:
can any1 tel me which was the last official stable build of AOKP version 4.1.2 ? there are soo many of them on the official website and im just confused
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Cristi_10:
this one http://goo.im/devs/aokp/maguro/aokp_maguro_jb_milestone-1.zip
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wlld1:
I bought gnex on december 2012. Never use ROM elder than 4.2.2. Saw many posts and topics like this and decided downgrade to 4.1.2. Now I use MIUI4/AOKP and wondered how it faster and more stable. No more 4.2.2 :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] CavacoIT:
I made the same choice and, it's True, 4.1.2 is faster and smooth indeed.

EOS 3 Last Nightly

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stead2120:
Im running the Kernel that came with this AOKP rom which is 3.0.33- tuna-faux123-018+. Im not sure what other kernels run well, I would have to do some research, but the Kernel runs really great that came with this rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
Anybody got a link for PA 2.54?

Looked at the posted thread, but the uploads on Goo.im are all 3.+
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I am using a stock, rooted 4.2.2 verizon rom. It performs the best out of all the roms I've used. CM, AOKP, ParanoidAndroid. All of those roms had memory issues, lag issues, etc, for me. They would run smoothly for about 6-8 hours, but would then start having lag issues. So, I'll stick with a stock experience for now. I'll probably stay stock rooted until I get another phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoadToNever:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40286182 Look for v2.57. That's four higher, innit?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Lesicnik1:
Thanks, weird how my Google searches didn't find that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] msg04:
Sticking with 4.2.2 and loving it. I did feel that 4.2.1 did cause a lot of issues for me. At that time I decided to move down to 4.1.2 which was more stable. I'm currently running 4.2.2 and have no issues whatsoever.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
Any major difference's compared to v2.54?

In other words is it fully stable?

LOL
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DevilStrider:
I did the same thing. I'll wait a little longer before I jump to 4.2.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
LOL

That would be nice...

But doubt it'll ever happen, 4.3 is going to come out soon and if it's running smoother than 4.1.2 then most Devs will build from that.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adamczyk777:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2374386

works perfect for me :) Still waiting for official version!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mfdemicco:
I was on Vanir 4.1.2 before switching to Carbon 4.2.2. I felt 4.2.2 was faster. I wouldn't mind going back to try but don't want to deal with the SD card folder issues.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Yann89:
I realized how laggy was my GNex on Stock 4.2.2 when I tried my sister's Nexus 4: especially the lockscreen and the camera UI.

So I switched to AOKP 4.1.2 last release (since 5 weeks now): to make things smoother, I am using Greenify to hibernate some apps, running a daily reboot and a weekly Lagfix.

The result is 'fine', definitively not as smooth as the stock 4.2.2 on a Nexus 4, but way better than what I had before. Thanks to AOKP customization features (toggles for example), the downgrade was also easier to 'accept'.

I guess it's time for me to upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] adamczyk777:
Today is the day of the google event?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kisrita:
I went back to stock 4.1.2 (rooted). On 4.2.2, powering on the phone had become so laggy that I turned off the lockscreen months ago, and now I don't use it on newer devices either. I like the instant on screen, which I couldn't have with 4.2.2. I think it works well enough on 4.1.2 so that an upgrade is really not necessary. But I probably will upgrade and give the GNex to a luddite friend who is reluctant to use smartphones but is starting to see the benefits of them. I think it will still make great starter phone for less techy people for at least another year, if it is kept on 4.1.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mfdemicco:
Try Carbon rom with Fancy Kernel and overclock. My friends GS4 didn't seem that fast to me. Freeze or remove apps you rarely use too.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Yann89:
Following the first few 4.3 user feedbacks, there is no really improvement on UI lags ... Anyway I don't think we could expect more development on 4.1 ROMs: most teams make builds for several phones at the same time and nevermind if it's laggy on the GNex.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] cheyne1:
I won't even entertain leaving 4.1.2 unless I hear some pretty stellar reviews from this community about 4.3.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoadToNever:
The only reason I stay on 4.1.2 is the low latency audio fix. Other than that I don't understand what's being discussed here , I used 4.2.2 for over a month without issues. Maybe you guys are simply affected by the eMMC slowdown bug: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1971852
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
You don't use bluetooth devices, do you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoadToNever:
I'll be glad to admit I don't. Are you aware that if you read through the last 10 pages in this thread you only see "me too" and "4.2 sucks" type posts without any reference to the original problem, and no way to quantify whether you're affected? Your vaguely informative reply further re-inforces the voodoo cult feel of this thread, my friend. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
I can't control what other people post and I don't keep tabs on posts I blow by because they're useless. What I do know is the memory leak and bluetooth issues from using a new and unfinished bluetooth stack are well documented problems. In fact, if you read I believe post #2 of this thread you will see my post about my specific bluetooth issues.

I wasn't trying to be..umm..cultish(?), it was just obvious if you aren't aware of the problems you don't use bluetooth and/or you reboot you phone at least once a day/turn it off at night. In which case, no, you're right, you yourself aren't having problems because you don't use the things that are broken.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] mfdemicco:
Well, I'm on 4.2.2 and play music over Bluetooth over my car sound system and have not had disconnects. The audio quality doesn't seem as good as with the line in/out cable though. Don't know if 4.1.2 would sound better. Tiny posted some older Bluetooth binaries for 4.2.2 a while ago. Did you try those? I'll have to do more testing to verify if I have a Bluetooth problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Some applications work, some....really don't. Streaming audio is usually ok, but other types of bluetooth connections can be iffy or completely broken. Unfortunately Smart Watch connections was one of them, causing the connection to drop the second you turn the phone's screen off. I don't know if this is for all phones or just the GNexus..the Nexus 4 might work perfect for all I know.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] RoadToNever:
You're taking my retorical devices too literally and missing the point. I've been following the thread (actually subscribed) for months purely out of curiousity and I haven't written it off (yet). I'm trying to explain how I think some people might silently write it off based on the quality of the posts. Lots similar accounts of the same issue doesn't necessarily equate to well-document in terms of software development. Being up front about any further investigation that needs to be made will usually get you closer to getting issues acknowledged and resolved.

Also, did you try Tiny's BT binaries as suggested by mfdemicco?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] speedyink:
Low quality posts happen, it's an increasing part of internet forums. I've stopped going to certain forums because of that reason. I know some of it has rubbed off on me, but usually only on painful days.

Lot's of similar accounts of the same issue means there's a problem. There is a ticket submitted to the Android support system(sorry if that's entirely wrong as I don't know what exactly it's called, I just remember signing it) backed by a ton of people. Probably the reason why it's taking a while is because I'm sure it's a big deal to switch to an entirely different bluetooth stack, which is fine because we needed it for BTLE 4.0. I'll find out soon if 4.3 has it sorted yet.

No, I didn't try the binaries. I had already switched before I found out and I can't be bothered to go back. There's a good chance that they would work though, it sounded promising.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] elnitrox:
has anyone tried 4.3 coming from 4.1.2?

im still waiting for reviews about 4.3

running 4months now 4.1.2 smoothness

hope this will change me in something new to see..
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] madd0g:
I/O issues seem to be resolved in 4.3, you can safely move to it.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] jay_993:
Still imo wait for the next release since first releases arent most reliable.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
LOL

Guess that means I'll wait until 4.3.2 is released.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ac7822:
Goodbye 4.1.2 u served me well, and saved my phone from the evil 4.2.x. 4.3 is great on the gnex. I reinstalled all 150 of my titanium backups and I'm still running smooth as butter where my phone would just crawl when using 4.2 with all my apps installed. Also I have between 280-299 MBS of ram free, so seems like the major 4.2 problem was solved and its really lag free. Not perfect lag free cuz our phone is old but keyboard is smooth and in general the ui is nice and smooth.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maliceomalice:
do you guys know how to fix the file partition issues moving from 4.2 to 4.1.2? i dont really have a working pc nearby to flash stock 4.1.2 image. so solutions within the phone itself would help very much..

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Sdobron:
Just move it out of the 0 folder to the sdcard folder
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
Sounds promising, but I won't bother testing until tablet mode is added back to a custom/stable 4.3 ROM.

Although I don't really see the need to dump on 4.1.2, since it's running smooth and I got all the 4.2 features that I like.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vkamicht:
I just did this morning - I did a complete wipe and flashed the stock factory image.

Call me crazy, but it still doesn't feel as fast or smooth as 4.1.2 did. I couldn't tell you if it is actually running faster or not, I don't do benchmarks. It's mostly the little UI things that just don't feel optimized for this device right out of the box, anymore, that were fine in 4.1.2. If UI speed and smoothness quirks don't bother you, then you probably never reverted to 4.1.2 in the first place. However, this stuff was supposed to be gone with all the project butter hype and it came right back with 4.2. Most of these are issues that I experienced in 4.2 also:

- The screen-off animation is still very fast and looks like it's missing frames, but if I remember right there are fixes for it out there. Still, our device uses an OLED and doesn't need to pull any tricks due to a back-light or whatever the reason this was changed in the first place.

- Pressing power to lock is still nearly a full second slower than it should be. Like in 4.2, there's a very noticeable delay when you press the power button that was never there in 4.1.2. When you combine this with the point above, locking or turning your screen off just makes you feel like your phone is 5 years old, or that something is wrong.

- The glow on the soft buttons stutters in certain situations - opening the running apps does it every time. Minor, but jarring.

- I still hate the lock screen.

- Opening camera from lock screen is still pretty slow. I timed myself, and it took just as long, if not longer to open it from the lock screen than it did to unlock to my home screen and hit the Camera icon. The point of the shortcut was to get to it faster, so it serves no point to me anymore.

- Scrolling speed and UI smoothness seem to be app dependent. Play Store is still a stuttering mess, but contacts scroll just fine.

For the positive, it does feel _somewhat_ better than 4.2 did. Unlocking to home screen, opening and closing app drawer, scrolling through running apps and swiping them away all feel very quick. I'm not sure if these are from 4.3 enhancements or from wiping my SD card, running lagfix, and being on a totally stock image. My guess would be the latter.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] ac7822:
I dunno if maybe its a difference in phones but my experience on 4.3 has been vastly different. While its not lag free, I rarely experience lag just slowness loading apps but not stutters if that makes sense and the whole ui feels very smooth. Smoother than aokp 4.1.2 did on my phone and 4.1.2 was much better than 4.2. 4.2 made my phone a dog. I specifically tried out scrolling in the play store after ur comment and I don't get lag, just a quick bump very 20 appz so it could load the next 20 but the actual scrolling was smooth. Not trying to say ur wrong or anything im just pointing out how I'm having a very different experience with 4.3 so other people can try it for themselves and see how it works out for them. Overall for me 4.1.2 was really good cuz my phone was horrible on 4.2 but 4.3 feels like an upgrade in every way for me
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Kirian:
The lag in the play store that was mentioned is the one in the main screen (the one that you see when you open the app from zero). I can confirme that the lag occurs, and pretty bad, and, as vkamicht said, it's not related to android 4.3 in anyway, because I tested right now the play store on a galaxy Note II (Quad-core, android 4.1) and the lag does occur (almost as bad as on gnexus). It's more related to the app itself (that keeps delopading and reloading the images from memory) than to android.

As far as turning the screen on and off is still slow, the major problem that I was facing (a bug that happened when you turned the screen off in landscape and caused some parts of the system, as the recent app list and the notifications, to become slow as hell (you can see more about this here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178962)) is fixed. I haven't used android 4.1 on a gnexus for a while, so I can't tell if 4.3 is as smooth or stable as 4.1 was.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Justinhopaolo:
Came here to say these exactly.

Thanks for I don't have to type anymore
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaoskilo:
Shameless bump for 4.1.2

I know some people say "what's the point in having a nexus if you're not running the latest version of android?"

But having tried a few 4.3 roms (including stock) and returned once more to good ol' 4.1.2 I ask "what's the point in having a phone if it doesn't work (well)?"

These later versions of android are all well and good for newer phones with beefier processors and multitudes of cores, but they just make the gnex feel far more dated and sluggish than it really is!

It's still a robust and powerful little phone that will easily see through another year or two before it really begins to struggle to keep up with the times, and even then it'll still function well enough. The vast majority of the bells and whistles from newer phones and versions of android have been/are being/will be ported in due time and development on this phone is still alive and kicking.

I beseech you, do not buy a new phone simply because this one struggles with 4.3 and struggled with 4.2. Read through this thread and head on back to 4.1.2 (the version basically designed for this phone!) With the upgrades you'll find throughout this thread it's as up to date as any other phone and better yet, it can still keep up.

Try it, what've you got to lose?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
^

This is why I still don't even want to bother trying/testing any 4.3 ROMs.

"If it ain't broke don't fix it"
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Seraz007:
people still back to 4.1.2? :silly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maliceomalice:
i was using stock 4.1.2 for a few weeks, prior the launching of jellybean 4.3, and now im using cataclysm rom 4.3. Dont really noticed any disadvantage with my everyday usage at all.. :D

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Reclaimer122:
I noticed a pretty big boost in smoothness and overall performance going from 4.2.2 to 4.3. I can't even remember 4.1.2, LOL.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Wade-0:
Struggles with 4.3? Seriously? 4.3 has breathed new life into my Gnex. Made me love this phone again. Maybe you're just doing it wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Mach3.2:
Honestly 4.0.4 isn't that bad, really.;)

Beamed from my Maguro
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] krazykeyur:
Group MMS.

For that one reason alone, I will never ever go back to anything pre-4.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewk7750:
Man.. If 4.1.2 runs fast on this bad boy.. Just imagine gingerbread on this little beast ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] SirBindy:
Pff, donut
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andrewk7750:
Pshhhh why not some cupcake? ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kostheback:
Hello friends.

I want to stay in version 4.1.2. But constantly updating automatically.

What can I do?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] maliceomalice:
1.search fotakill.apk on google

2.install (i think it need to be installed into system,so i assume you know how)

3.reboot device

4.done

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[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaoskilo:
Speed isn't everything...

Jelly bean (& project butter) was the best thing to happen to android for a long time, being fast is nice as long as it's smooth. ICS wasn't bad, but like 4.2, and 4.3 on this phone, speed means nothing when the graphics stutter and freeze. 4.1.x had the best of both worlds (on this phone).

While 4.3 is bearable, and will improve with time (and fstrim scripts!) I'm sure. At time of writing, 4.1.2 is still the smoothest build of android I've experienced.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] zandroid:
I tried out 4.3 after being on 4.1.2 for the past three months. I thought 4.3 was a nice improvement. The ROMs I tried, all CM based, were very smooth with no stuttering. I noticed touch responsiveness is improved, or seem improved on my phone. Sometimes I have to press an app or area of the phone twice for it to registers. 4.3 seemed to work better in this area.

My biggest gripe is the camera is still junky when rotating from portrait to landscape and vice verse. It really soured my experience with 4.3 even though everything else seemed really great. The poor transition is probably not noticeable on a Nexus 4, but man Google it really looks like garbage.

The CM Focal camera, even with it's screen artifacts, has a very smooth transition. Hopefully Focal will come along nicely and it can be used as an alternative.

Also, I am on toro and for that reason returned to 4.1.2, specifically because of dropped data.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bigblue4life:
Anyone on the toroplus know if there is a stock 4.1.2 available?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
Didn't want to start another thread, but read something about 4.3 not yet supporting side loading flash APK...

True?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaoskilo:
None that I can see

Seems to be only 4.1.1 I'm afraid...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] tokuzumi:
I've installed apps from the Amazon app store and f-droid with no issues. They all require unknown sources to be selected, under security, just like if you were installing an apk off the Web.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] isajoo:
LOL

Not just any random APK, specifically the unofficial adobe FLASH player version 10&11 APKs.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bopsch:
I for one will go back from 4.3 to 4.1.2 tomorrow, specifically to CM 10.0.0 stable.

Though I realise an improvement in performance comparing 4.2.2 and 4.3, as well as a much better battery life, there are some new bugs I encountered. The most annoying of which are recurring tethering and hotspot issues on my gnex and a sometimes strangely reacting touchscreen on my nex7(2012).

I guess I will wait until CM 10.2 is stable and give it another try, for there are some CM features I like better in 10.1 than in 10...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bpyazel:
Is the car dock the same as 4.2 in 4.3? Meaning when you hit home it takes you to your home launcher instead of the car dock launcher?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] andermic:
So far for me, yes. I was actually just browsing around to find a fix for this. Car Dock mode seems mostly useless.

1. It just keeps the screen on.

2. I can only set the media volume to 0% or 100%.

3. Home button doesn't do the correct thing anymore.

4. I can't get phone calls to play through the dock audio... this might be a setting?

I went out of my way to buy the Galaxy Nexus specific car dock with the 3 pins and it doesn't really seem all that great anymore.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bpyazel:
Blah. I'll continue with 4.1 then. This and the lag kept me from using 4.2. I use car dock a lot.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] pearse:
I'm glad I found this thread. 4.1.2 is noticeably quicker in everything compared to 4.2.2
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] seedar:
Bluetooth

So is bluetooth fixed in 4.3 ???

So people understand the issues, I use a Blueant headset and bluetooth built into my car. Bluetooth works great with 4.1.2 but with 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 with one car with a slightly older bluetooth ~2007 stack it wont work at all. With newer bluetooth devices it seems ok. 4.2 onwards seems to have broken backward compatibility with older bluetooth devices.

So I ask again, does 4.3 fix this ?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Vekhez:
Works fine for me! Used it with my car for today, also sent some files around.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stupdude2:
LiquidSmooth v2.0 RC8 and RC9

Hunting for 4.1.2 roms which are still hosted has been like searching for legendary treasure! I might have found the mother lode. LiquidSmooth v2.0 RC9 is the last 4.1.2 version of the rom and, amazingly, I found the files hosted for a number of devices.

I can't share outside links, so google "androidrootaccess Jellybean 4.1.2 liquidsmooth" and it should be the first choice.

So far, my experience with it has been phenomenal. It might have the most comprehensive collection of tweaks of any other 4.1.2 rom. The most notable features are selectable system tweaks like zipalign and fix permissions on boot, voltage, PM Sleep Mode, expanded desktop, ringer delay, modifiable navigation keys, glow colors, and navbar height/width, DPI selector, tablet UI option, custom carrier label, center/date/weekday/AM-PM clock, and more!

I hope you enjoy it and please let me know what you think.