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[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
It should be noted that they're comparing the Note 2 N7100 (HSPA+ model), which has FM Radio. Some things are stated incorrectly, like the HSPA+ is 21 Mbps-capable, not "168 Mbps". But yes, the rest of it is pretty much correct.

Unless you want something faster for gaming (by the way, the Note 2 is capable of running all games on the market at the highest quality), or smaller, you're better off with the Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Yeah, that and you can move away from the wall charger while playing them, how about that! :p

Even slightly underclocked, Note II must have good enough specs to run most apps for like a good 2 years. And then we could always overclock it if we want to with the awesome battery we've got :) Win-win for me. Heck, even the S2 is still surprisingly good spec-wise and runs most games quite decently.
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
Aside from the screen resolution (which actually boosts performance), there's nothing wrong with the S2 at all. The Exynos S2's I mean (AT&T i777, i9100, Epic 4G Touch). It's still lower-High End.
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
I understand where you are coming from, and you are obviously not alone in that regard. Most of the complaints about the S4 are the lack of a "premium feel". I sincerely think Samsung will change this with the Note 3. At least one Samsung representative has publicly acknowledged the widespread disappointment with plastic, and has suggested that the Note 3 will be different. I would love to see this happen. I personally couldn't care less what the frame is made of. But if Samsung is smart, they will at least offer the *option* of an all-metal Note 3, which will appease that demographic. They could also use this to further distinguish between the Galaxy S and Galaxy Note lines. Samsung would then completely own the phablet market.
[Galaxy Note II General] simacca:
The purple smearing problem on the new s4 has put me off wanting one. Not that I was tempted to leave my note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
I might go Note III when the time comes (and not to get off topic), I have mouse pad at job, desk at home, table next to my lounge chair, night stand in bedroom, He**, I got mouse pad in basement (TV too, different story!). I have chargers too! They can make it outta paper, if it works........Anal? my friends think so yes! (and before one of you chime in, NO I do not have mouse pad in bathroom!!! I don't take phone in it!! lol)

To OP, good move!
[Galaxy Note II General] charmz2k2:
I love my S4.

I think it is personal preference but there is absolutely nothing cheap about it and I'd class it as just as good as my old note.

Its a nice weight, nice size and screen is beautiful.

I was really debating about whether to trade my note 2 in for this, but I honestly can't complain after making the jump!

Just waiting for my case to be delivered now!

Anyways, each to their own, note 2 is certainly an amazing device and while I had it, nothing compared, but I have to say I don't miss it after using this :)
[Galaxy Note II General] kinghu:
Saw an S4 side-by-side with a Note 2 yesterday and it looked a little small (as all phones do really). I do like the smaller home button area and 1080p. Plastic or aluminum etc doesn't matter as I case my phones. Aside from that, I'll be keeping my Note 2 for a while yet.

I used to think The N7100 was my perfect phone... until I swapped it for the N7102 :)

My next phone? The N7302 circa October 2014.

-- From my N7102
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
I'm sure the S4 is an awesome phone. Just don't go check out the Note 3 when it comes out, or you may be stricken with a bit of envy. :p
[Galaxy Note II General] mazdamiata210:
I have had the n7100 on AT&T since October. I was curious about the s4 and I had an upgrade available so I went to buy it...

Within the first few hours it froze or force closed out of system apps 3 to 4 times on me. After 2 hours of use the phone was extremely hot. It seemed to be very laggy and unfinished. Almost reminded me of an Apple product! (sorry I had to)

I have them both sitting on my desk, but I will not be going back to the s4. It is a downgrade in so many ways. The battery isn't as bad as the s3, however it is no where near the battery on my note 2.

When running a Quadrant standard benchmark test the s4 blows away the note 2... However that power is ruined with an unfinished and buggy/laggy UI

One of the major problems I had besides the lag and the freezing was that some of my notifications didn't work, when they did work they would disappear on their own. Some would vibrate even though I had vibrate turned off (my gmail for example)

Bottom line is the phone is a piece of crap lol. I would not tell anyone to get it. The only nice feature was the 1080p screen, but that was a battery hog it seemed. Oh... And I don't even have to mention all the bloatware that it comes with along with the locked bootloader :/
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
The worst thing about the s4 is that they completely messed up the processor. The octal has to have four cores online at all times. Either 4x a7, 4x a15 or any combination e.g. 3x a7 and 1x a15. The implementation is retarded and can't deliver the expected energy savings. Samsung screwed up bad by chasing spec bumps as a means to sell more phones at the expense of making sure the stuff actually can work properly. I dearly hope they sort it out before the note 3.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Galaxy Note II General] cashyftw:
I'll be skipping the note 3 if there isn't a new design, I mean don't get me wrong, it's awesome, but I want something different to seem like I have a new phone. The sgs4 was at a kiosks in the mall today, and I for the longest time thought it was an gs3 every time I passed it.

Sent from my GT-N7105
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
Not really true (I think?) as this member explains it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39172453#post39172453

---------- Post added at 11:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

It's in the guts if you read the rumors! There are some apps that will make it different, but the hardware inside (Octa Processor, Memory, 1080P, camera........) it will tame current laptops!
[Galaxy Note II General] sos_sifou:
But even with plastic, there is too many different materials to choose from, that glassy cheapy feel i get from my note 2 is definitely not the best of them... Av had many devices just like everybody else, used plastic and metal, i agree that plastic is tougher and keeps the device in a good shape for years, but they ain't using the best material for their S line.

Best regards

Sifou

Using a Samsung N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
lost you bro! maybe my Note came from different batch, I love the feel and feel is great?
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
I used an old set of earphones and cutoff the ear buds to use as my antenna. Less cumbersome that way and still get FM if you need it.

my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
[Galaxy Note II General] makuchaku:
I have written a short blog about it - check http://www.makuchaku.in/blog/what-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s4-or-note-2

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II General] boodies:
i also own the note 2 and Im most likely going to wait for the Note 3 or Note 4 (i usually own a phone for about 2 years)
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
Nice write up. I played with the S4 for only a few minutes in a store, but I agree with everything you said about the GN2.
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
Nice write up and I agree!
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
I just went to Radioshack and asked to play with an S4. The screen is beautiful and all, but the flimsiness and lack of originality in the design shocked me. This is coming from someone whose last three or four phones were Samsung. Now, yes, the HTC One lacks a memory card slot and a removable battery. But man, that thing felt so sexy and premium compared to the plastic slab that is the S4 that I was holding. It looked and felt sturdy (and yes I know plastic is more resilient than metal when dropping your phone). There are also threads that show Samsung is starting to block root via stock kernels and other shady tactics to keep us out. And I'm aware that HTC devices are also locked down. But honestly, I'd rather have a 64GB HTC One than an S4 after playing with them both. I'm very disappointed in Samsung.

Hopefully the Note 3 is made of metal. I'm not complaining about the plastic. Just the fact that the S4 feels like going from iPhone 4 to 4S. 1080p screen is overkill and a battery hog. Spec bump is nice. Screen is slightly taller when put next to an S3. And it only has like 9GB of usable internal storage. I love my Note 2. I'm not replacing it in a long time. Just saying that when the next big thing from Samsung comes out, it better REALLY be the next big thing. Because Imo unless you're coming from a GS1 or S2, the Galaxy S4 is a flaming turd.

What made HTC make a really great phone (some stupid elements aside) was pressure from imminent failure. Samsung is absolutely destroying them in sales. Samsung is acting like Apple now, releasing marginal upgrades to feed the existing userbase. They need to feel the pressure of failure so they're really motivated to build something worthwhile.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Agree totally. Played with an s4 on Friday at the big Samsung promotional pavilion at my local mall. It was every bit as disappointing as I suspected it would be. Gs3/note 2 seem to have about the right balance when it comes to features. There's just so much crap in the s4 that I don't really need. I would consider myself a power user and all but it seems like they just shoved any old crap they could think of in there just to get people to want to buy it.

I'm with you. This note 2 will hold me in good stead for a long time unless Samsung get back on the right path.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Galaxy Note II General] Alexei Volkoff:
After the Note 2 there is no way I'm going back to smaller screens. Besides, the Note 3 will have all the S4 has and then some! I'm not even sure I'll get the Note 3. The only thing that appeals to me so far is the bigger screen. Full HD in a phone is more a marketing gimmick than a real world advantage, IMO. They are cheapper to develop and implement that what really counts: a screen with improved colour rendition and accuracy. That would involve more money in R&D than full HD screens. Besides, big numbers sell well, so give the sheep what they want to hear.

Also, 13 MP cameras are more of a drawback than an improvement. With such tiny sensors they have to apply very agressive noise reduction to keep noise down at such high resolutions. Nokia is the only manufacturer that is doing it right as far as cameras are concerned. Please Samsung, with such a huge phone you have a lot of space to fit a bigger sensor and improve camera quality. Stop this idiotic pixel race.
[Galaxy Note II General] ShadowLea:
I was going to get an S4, but am seriously reconsidering to wait for the Note 3.

The Note 2 is sadly not an option for me, as my TF700 has spoiled me in terms of a full HD resolution (1920x1200), and I really do not want 5.5" on 720x1280. I'm one of those people who do see a significant difference. Camera Megapixel resolution of no interest to me, I always have my DSLR with me.

Besides, the rumours are currently that the Note 3 will get both an Octa CPU and Octa GPU. (And time to properly implement them in terms of utilisation and battery management, as the S4 really is just a testrun.) I'd be willing to wait for that!

I'm sure you lot can convince me I'm doing the right thing :p ;)
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
I'm curious though, could the "difference" you see just be the calibration? Because when I looked at the awesome HD screens, I thought it was just the difference between FHD and HD, but turned out that it's the stock calibration that made it looks a WHOLE lot worse. Before calibration, I could really "tell" the difference too, but post, I can't even if I try hard.

The only area I've noticed a difference is slightly sharper text while browsing.
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
If rumors are true, I will fly to Korea (3rd time. Military once, bunisess in 2009) and personally get mine! Note III is hot!
[Galaxy Note II General] ShadowLea:
I really hope they are true. It'd be hard to beat that for quite a while.. :eek: (source, by the way: http://www.sammobile.com/2013/05/01/rumor-galaxy-note-iii-to-have-8-core-cpu-and-8-core-gpu/ )
[Galaxy Note II General] simacca:
Hopefully samsung will update the screen tech so it doesn't suffer from the sgs4 screen problems that are all over the internet atm.
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
read the TOO many times already.............give it to me!!
[Galaxy Note II General] madpete:
Guys, this 8 core GPU that people keep going on about....its not that great to be honest.

ARM themselves describe it as a product for "mid-range" phones and call it "cost effective" (budget), Mali 450 is just Mali 400 but with the option of more cores as far as I can tell.

I don't know about you, but I don't think of the Note series as mid range phones. Esp when you consider their cost.

Surely Mali T604 or T658 would be a more premium choice, for a premium phone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMiyTl6PCY0
[Galaxy Note II General] ShadowLea:
Absolutely, however how are they going to keep us buying new phones if they give us the best thing straight away?

It's pure marketing; never sell the best of the best. If you were to buy a phone which had the ultimate CPU, would you buy a new one two years later, if no CPU could triumph it? No? Exactly, so they can't make money off you.

By which it means we will never get the best device that can be made. :(
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
Intel and nvidia desktop stuff come to mind. Intel's CPUs the last 2 year have been pretty damn good. Probably good enough for the average user to sit on for 5 years. And non gamers can probably do the same with some of the low to mid end GPUs. I would much prefer to see a power vr 543/544 mp4 in the gnote 3. If that does end up happening I could see my self getting if it not larger than the gnote2. An 8 core Mali 450 will be interesting though. Perhaps with faster ram and some more optimization it may be pretty good.

my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
[Galaxy Note II General] halaletarian:
Will note 2 get some or most of the s4 features! !!
[Galaxy Note II General] madpete:
I see what your saying, I just think there are already better choices available right now. Personally I hope these rumors are false, but I suspect that they are probably true.
[Galaxy Note II General] prav82:
I rather wait for Samsung Note 2... Its going to launch somewhere around October.
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
I think you mean Note 3! Not to mention your signature indicates you already have Note 2, haha.
[Galaxy Note II General] Zanr Zij:
After 4 days with S4 i9505, 1 day with S4 i9500 I decided skip S4:

- Faster but not much smoother

- Camera is better but also not much.

- Hotter esp i9500

- Battery life: ~ 60-65% of Note 2.

- Note 2 will be updated almost features of S4 in near future accept S Health, IR and maybe Super sensitive touchscreen

- Octa CPU is need to be improve. The second production of SS semiconductor always better than first like 4412 in Note 2 ( much better 4412 in S3 ) about clock speed, temperature and overclockable

- Tiny plastic bezel around S4 screen easy to break and can not replace separate like Note 2

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] krohme:
Absolutely true analysis - regarding the battery life situation.

The Samsung Galaxy Note II is the 1st phone I've owned that easily lasts an entire day with one charge cycle. This has indeed become a platform that any future phone (I purchase) must meet or exceed.

The S4 has some exciting features - some are gimmicks, but I'll go for battery overall, any day.

My vote goes to N2 over S4 - especially when we'll receive most of S4 software features with future updates. :good:
[Galaxy Note II General] nidhish91:
I really cant think of life without my ginormous Note2. Note2 > every other Android device :333
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
Yes. Note2 battery life is awesome. The only other phone that can compete is the droid razor maxx and that has its shortcomings and the network it is on.

my gnote2 is bigger than your puny iPhone.
[Galaxy Note II General] halaletarian:
Note 3 will be tempting but im gonna resist my tenptation eaithr get s5 or note 4 they will be amazingggggg
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-galaxy-note-2-203764/

A good article written in the favor of s4. I am surprised how they have compared the battery as they are saying that battery is almost the same. Weird?
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Doesn't sound likely at all. No idea what they did with the "tests", but that doesn't sound accurate. S4 should have pretty good battery life, but I don't think it's almost equal to Note II tbh.

It's annoying when people say stuff like this:

Um, no it isn't. This is exactly why I don't trust these reviews, going in with preconceived notions about 1080p being de facto better than 720p. Not always the case. S4 seems to have the slightly sharper screen, but that's just one aspect of it. Anywho.
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
I'll go along with everything that was said except for the display and battery life. People with eagle vision can easily distinguish between 720p and 1080p. I am not one of them. The GN2 720p screen is more than adequate for me. Besides, there isn't a lot of 1080p content available unless you watch HD movies on your phone. Imo movies are better on a tablet. But if I had to choose, I'd rather watch movies on the GN2 with its larger screen with lower resolution, rather than on the S4 with a smaller screen and higher resolution.

I don't buy their battery life comparison. The S4 SoC is undoubtedly more efficient than the GN2, but there is no way the S4 2600 mAh battery pushing 1080p resolution can keep up with the GN2 3100 mAh battery pushing 720p. The S4 battery life is probably better than the S3, but it won't go 1.5 to 2 days like the GN2. It just won't happen.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
I still can't believe how i can get 8h of screen time with this note 2!! I can't go downgrade for another smartphone and go back under 7/8h of screen time, never!!

Maybe the next Google/motorola phone will be better like the razr MAXXX and its 3300mah battery
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
I'm sure Samsung will surprise us with a mega battery on the Note III. Having a flexible screen will allow for more room for the battery. If they managed to make a smaller phone with a bigger screen AND a bigger battery on the S4 I'm sure they can do the same with the Note III.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
I hope! The problem is to not buy it the day one :D

We also know that first models are full of BUG/SDS and other ****, i would recommend to wait 6 or 8 mounts with the note 2 before going on note 3 :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
8 hrs! I wish I could get past 6.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
For this you have to install kernel which enable undervolt settings and a custom rom like phoenix with debloated apps
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
IF you're running CM based roms, you won't get incredible battery life even with undervolt. Try a good, de bloated touchwiz ROM with custom kernel.

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Got 6+ easily on stock with no debloating or root. So no, you don't have to UV to get that. That's just decent screen on time for N2. 8+ hours on heavy use though, you may have to undervolt and use a custom ROM.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
Got 6+ doesn't mean got 8+.

I never got 8+ with stock rom. Once i got 7h and 1h calling. Only wifi never 3g. Brightness low no game. Now i got 8+ with brightness low/auto and only 3g never wifi and some game
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Yeah in that case it's good. But my point still stands, you should get 6+ average on stock, that was to the other guy who said he gets <6. Don't think that's acceptable, you get way more than that on stock. Even with 3g.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
Yeah the baddest i got with stock where 6h with brightness auto and lot of video recording, upload on dropbox and facebook. I was amazing and the battery wouldn't die on the night.

I always want more and more. I should stop at 8h screen on time or buy a zerolemon battery for more lol
[Galaxy Note II General] HTCMario:
heh, pretty much. i just bought an HTC One to replace my Note 2, only to find that the Note 2 is irreplaceable. Goodbye HTC One, I hardly knew you :)
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
+1
[Galaxy Note II General] fahad2mail:
I will do the same. I mean s4 is not a worthy upgrade over note 2. Will keep my note 2 till they release note 3. I am totally fall in love with this phablet.
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
Wow you had the HTC One for how many days and already ditched it?
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
So what happened to your One then? Do you still love the N2? :)
[Galaxy Note II General] HTCMario:
played with it for 2 whole days lol. going to just gift it to a buddy who really needs a new phone. got it for $148 from walmart so no real loss
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
Sold it. Law of supply and demand. :)
[Galaxy Note II General] Tomo1971:
I've now gone from Note2 to S4.

On the one hand it was easier to type on the note as the screen was bigger but the phone, with a protective case was just too big. If I could of gotten away with a slim case, or no case then it would of been ok I think.

So, went for the S4. The screen isn't that much smaller screen size, there is a difference when using the keyboard but its not that much.

I will miss the size of the note in some ways but others I won't.
[Galaxy Note II General] bushako:
really? For some reason when you put them side by side the Note 2 screen looks huge, even though the difference is only around .55 inches.
[Galaxy Note II General] Hatem basha:
Not even considering it

Yeah. m totally in love with my note 2. the only mobile that i'm considering

IF

i want to upgrade to is the HTC one. Other than that m sticking for my note 2 :victory::victory:
[Galaxy Note II General] iam123:
samsung is going apple way... i3-i3s-i4-i4s-i5 ... s1-s2-s3-s4 lol ... there is not much to be done and phones have evolved a lot.

Within 1-2 years the similar phone can be bought for 30% - 40% from cheaper china alternatives.

so don't bite the bullet, keep n2 as n3 will be released in 4-6 months and it will have the newest fad.
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Huh?
[Galaxy Note II General] Iriseyoufall:
I see no point of replacing it with a S4. The S4 is just a minor upgrade in terms of speed, screen-quality (resolution/DPI).

Disadvantages of it are : Smaller screen, a terrible battery compared to the Note 2. :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
For anyone with an S2 or similar phone, the S4 is a definite upgrade and a no-brainer choice (if you want a new phone with expandable memory and removable battery).

For S3 owners, the S4 is a spec bump, but probably not worth burning a phone upgrade or paying full retail price.

For Note 2 owners, the S4 is a lateral move. You get a newer processor, the latest Jellybean and a high-res screen, at the expense of a smaller screen, less battery, and no S-pen.
[Galaxy Note II General] BarryH_GEG:
It's personal preference and people should buy what they like but the difference in screen size is pretty substantial. A 5" diagonal difference adds up to a huge difference in surface area.
[Galaxy Note II General] albsat:
What is the best way to get the note 2 in USA at a cheaper price?
[Galaxy Note II General] dsims7_2000:
Extra job? wont be cheaper, but you will get it sooner?
[Galaxy Note II General] albsat:
Never mind.