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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hi Lads,

Even looking at page 1 it seems like there's a million choices. Is it not as simple as me or someone pointing me in the right direction for the correct 4.4.2 ROM and just flash that as I am on the old bootloader? Or am i completely wrong in how simple it should be?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kage00:
No it is real simple, you can flash any new 4.4.2 Rom through CWM without tripping knox as you have the old bootloader, flashing through CWM means that the bootloader is removed (as odin is needed to flash bootloaders)

You can flash the new modem files from the latest 4.4.2 roms (but just make sure you don't flash the non-hlos.bin file. In the modem.tar take the modem.bin) and flash that through odin with 'auto reboot' unticked, you'll also need a kernel that'll let you use the new rom with the old bootloader (either KT kernel or Jeboo kernel will work)

That's pretty much it, simple really
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hey thanks for that. I haven't flashed anything in quite a while. So can i just use odin to flash the attached type ROM? Will this safely leave knox alone? So woult teh sequence make any difference? Flash the ROM, then the modem, and then KT kernel?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] splitterzelle:
First of all if you're worried about knox check if you're device has knox bootloader or not by going into download mode and there you'll see it posted in yellow letters.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
So I've looked in download mode and there's no knox bootloader present.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] splitterzelle:
So then you're lucky :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Cool so can I just flash the rom I mentioned earlier with Odin and then the modem and kernel?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] TemporaryTester:
No, you use a custom recovery to flash that, like CWM, TWRP, or PhilZ...

Seriously, does it physically hurt you people to read?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
Again, you should NOT use Odin to flash the ROM if you want to leave Knox alone. Only use Odin for the modem. Nothing else.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] fAiLOfax:
Did you flash it the right way, removing the auto reboot hook in Odin?

Take a look in my Flashing-Guide...

You must also have stock Recovery wile flashing a new ROM or you might have no WiFi after burning! :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] adnan7khan:
Posted that issue in Q&A section too ;)

Someone helped .. couple of days back with the same procedure of yours.

Thanks for the Response,tho. :)

Everything is working fine at the moment :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hey thanks for the reply. So let me run something by you and see if I'm on the right track. So I'm on the pre rooted mga 4.2.2 ROM from this thread from maybe 4 months ago. I don't have a knox bootloader nor do I want one!

So what I'm thinking of doing is:

Use Odin to flash a custom recovery probably CWM as I'm currently on stock recovery.

Use CWM to flash 1 of the 4.4.2 pre rooted ROMS from the first page in this thread (I was thinking of the one attached)

Use Odin to flash a modem

Use Odin to flash a new Kernel to allow me use the old bootloader with the new ROM - maybe KT kernel?

So does this sound right and is it the right order?

Thanks everyone
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
Yes apart from the kernel, you don't need it, read on the picture you attached, it has a new kernel already which works fine (Adam)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Just another quick question before i start - how do you know which modem to flash?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
This one: https://db.tt/47nWXhTf

You can flash it before the upgrade if you want, too.

And here is a recovery that works. Now you have everything.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Many thanks for your help
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] btmz:
How i can turn ART on?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] nikzDHD:
You can't Samsung have not implemented this so far on the SGS4.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hi again - the recovery you linked to didnt seem to go anywhere so i just flashed twrp instead. I guess the process is still the same irrespective of which custom recovery you use?

Many thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
Yes you're fine, the recovery is irrelevant.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] androidslinger:
Just a noob question I flashed the NB8 modem via Odin it's normal to see that my baseband is still MK8 how should I know if I already got the right modem thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Repulsa:
If your baseband did not change you need to reflash the modem once again or try this little tutorial .

Use Odin

Untick Autoreboot

Flash modem

Reboot once again into Download Mode using (Power+VolDown

Flash Modem once more

Once done,unplug then reboot device manually.

If this doesn't work, try repeating the flash process again while rebooting manually and with auto-reboot option turned off.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tiim:
Happened to me too - you can't soft reboot in download mode (well, of course you can, but that's the reason it doesn't work). You need to turn off your phone completely, then restart it with vol down+home+power.

Getting into download mode that way, a modem flash with Odin will work and your baseband will change.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] androidslinger:
Flashed successfully thanks guys [emoji106]
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwgalaxys:
great rom

thanks - flashed well, apps/services frozen with TB and now 2 + days battery
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Weard problem

Hi guys

I updated to fnb8 last week from 4.2. Update went fine but i noticed battery life had decreased a bit. So i decided to do a factory reset via twrp and full wipe. I have done this 3 times and my problem continues. Under the select screen lock option (pattern, pin etc) all are grayed out except pin and password. Everything else says disabled by administrator, encryption policy or credential storage. Even if you try to select either of the 2 ungreyed options (pin or password) it will not activate either of them. This is after a brand new flash, no apps nothing installed. I have read about other people with similar issues but this was always app related or by clearing stored credentials. In TWRP i have cleared everything dalvik cahce, system, data, internal storage, cache. and then immediately flash this ROM. Any ideas anyone?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
Yes check around my message 8656.. you have to comment out a line in build.prop.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwl99:
I'm completely confused about these pre-rooted ROMs & would appreciate some advice. I have a new I9505 with stock Android 4.2.2 XXUDMGG (i.e. non-Knox bootloader). I want to flash a pre-rooted rom with Odin but I do not want to install the Knox bootloader. Or if I have to install the Knox bootloader, I don't want to trip the flag. Which of these ROMs can be flashed with Odin whilst avoiding any Knox problems? Obviously, flashing a custom recovery would trip the Knox flag so none of theCWM flashable ROMs would be suitable.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
If you are on old bootloader non knox you should flash the recovery version. Flashing with odin will trip KNOX 0x1.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] dwl99:
Thanks - so I can flash TWRP with Odin then flash one of the custom ROMs with TWRP without causing any Knox problems? Will 4.3 and 4.4 ROMs work with the old bootloader? Will I need to flash new radio firmware separately?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
Don't flash non/hlos modem (LTE) with the old bootloader. Only gsm modems.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mrQQ:
any way to get LTE selection on this rom? :(
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
LTE work fine

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hi guys - Samsung screen mirror not working on this ROM. Is there a fix somewhere?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Tyxerakias:
Yes I fixed it with sorg's hack, look here ...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] RayySP:
Hey guys,

Do you realize that there's no camera shortcut on the settings on the prerooted stock 4.4.2 rom NB8 by wanam? I'm thinking that he had removed that option and I would like to have it back.

If someone that is kind enough to share their SecSettings.apk that have a camera shortcut in it?

Thank you. :)

Regards.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Brzina:
Do you know, when will a new update of 4.4.2 come ? Is there a new update ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
You can solve it by chanching csc to BTU (somewhere few page ago) with csc changer and a stock recovery.

More details on post 3.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] RayySP:
Thanks for the help mate. Will try to find the page. Cheers! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] GueDS:
Hi [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION] or any friend.

I made a mistake flashing the file "PATCHED SecPhone.apk (JB 4.2.2) (Call Recording + NO increasing ringtone)" on my XXUMBL6 4.3 ROM.

Obviously it didnt work as it should and the com.android.phone became a mess.

Is there a way to revert it or flash the 4.3 SecPhone.apk to correct? If yes, can anyone provide me an upload of that file if possible?

And if its not possible, the only way is to flash ROM again?? I have just set it all and was finishing the hole process flashing this patch :(

Can anyone help anyway?

Many thanks.

[EDIT]Just reflash ROM without wipes and it was a go, working like a charm.

Mental note: Remember EVER reading ROM versions oAIsuhAOisuhasoiUAHs
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] fabiaiz:
Hi, i can't speak English very well, and here there a lot of downloads and i can't rellay understand wich one is for me. Can someone help me? Now i have 4.2.2 fw without knox, i want to upgrade to 4.4.2 without installing knox, which firmware i have to download? thanks for the help
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
The cwm super slim version on post2.

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] bricenott:
Has anybody had this problem? , I'm using the slim one, I think it became like this after I copied (and installed a few apps to the /system/app/ folder...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Darios 23:
Hi all. I have a problem. http://xdaforums.com/show...php?p=51285854 .Is this guide will help me? If so, how
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
Any news about a pre rooted nfc4 or nfc5?

Regards

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] RayySP:
+1
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] rubiks01:
There is à guide made by [MENTION=4398524]DjeMBeY[/MENTION] if you are hurry ;)

Guide for Pre-Rooted ROM's (applicable to many Samsung devices)

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
I'm going to prepare XXUFNC9 (CWM Version ONLY), should be ready by tomorrow....

I'll see if anything changed regarding Odin versions but so far NO GO due to the extra script for SU installation...

Stay tuned...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
Thanks for the update

I usually use mobile odin to update my phone...

i will think to install a custom recovery

Regards

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] noskojv:
Make I9505XXUFNC4
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] sirbilbo:
Why just only CWM version, would be great to have odin version too ..

//
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] A.S._id:
Hi my friend, Catch from me:

multifiles odin rom

+ preroot

+ knoxfree

+ empty hidden

+ fix external sdcard rewriting

+ parts AP, BL, CP, CSC

AP_I9505XXUFNC9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX.tar.md5

BL_I9505XXUFNC9.tar.md5

CP_I9505XXUFNC9.tar.md5

CSC_I9505OXEFNC1_HOME_SER.tar.md5

http://rapidgator.net/file/fea7f245.../SER-I9505XXUFNC9_KNOXFREE_ROOT_ODEX.zip.html
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
Thanks

But it requires a premium account

Is it possible to upload file on mega?

Regards

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] A.S._id:
no premium, only registration...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] moussapes5:
hello

another link please :crying:...thank you
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Brzina:
Waiting for djembey links :laugh::good::cool:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
XXUFNC9-Odex-KNOX_FREE_Full - ODIN Version is ready to go!! :)

Upload in progress....

BiG thanks to [MENTION=2976903]A.S._id[/MENTION] for help and being good friend!! :) Much appreciated BrO!! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] A.S._id:
https://mega.co.nz/#!yd80QQgL!b7uYTBzBAXSZtndHBgSWh0XozmRhsTYT40nPZlm_oSQ
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] RayySP:
Hi there,

Just to confirm that is it a Deodexed Stock ROM?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] A.S._id:
ap_i9505xxufnc9_knoxfree_root_odex
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
XXUFNC9-CSC_OXAFNB8-KNOX_FREE-ODEX-FULL - ODIN is Online

Latest BL included!!!!!!!!!!

Downloads: <<< AFH >>>

enjoy!!

CWM_DeOdex-SuperSlim - UPLOAD in progress.....
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
Thanks

Its a odin version i guess

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yeah, it's ODIN Version... :) CWM is still uploading...

Stay tuned.. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
XXUFNC9-DeOdex-SuperSlim-CWM is Online

Download: <<< AFH >>>

enjoy!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
thanks Djembey

it's the first time i will flash a super slim.

i guess i'd better perform a full wipe?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Yeah, if you're coming from JB 4.3 then full wipe is recommended, but if you have 4.4.2 already, then no need for it.. ;)

enjoY! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
I already use the 4 4.2 pre rooted version

Thanks for your time

Regards

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Brzina:
Installed with odin , everything went great :P
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Huck33:
Install the odin version

Everything worked perfectly

I installed the cwm version. ..

Everything works

Great job

As usual

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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] BlackPit666:
Will you also upload the odex full cwm version?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] sirbilbo:
as i already have knox 0.1 will it be problem if i install this over FNB8 ?

wonder cause it says knox free
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] maverick7777:
help please

Hi

I'm on 4.2.2 with a s4 i9505, its knox free and i'd like to keep it that way, whats the best way too

a. root and install custom recovery

Also will rooting and installing custom recovery change anything i.e official samsung or give me knox?,

Can I upgrade to 4.4.2, or will I have to have knox to do that is 4.3 my limit?

Please help as I can't get my head around this, this is the second s4 i've had the first one I updated stock and had knox, so ideally I'd like to keep knox free on this one so that i've got warranty, but i'd also like to install some custom roms.

Thanks

Mav

P.S someone suggested saferoot?, should i use that or cf root?, whats the difference.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Ausboy 2011:
search button will be your best friend as well as google.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Get yourself faster connection.....

It's all OK... 15 minutes for me - 2MB/s..... (from Android Host)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mchu6am4:
Do I need to flash recovery first before installing the ROM via Odin?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
No, stock recovery is included in the package.

Just unpack it to .tar.md5 and load it in Odin as PDA.

Enjoy
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] laurence0609:
This is probably a silly question but may I ask where I can find "USB DEBUGGING" in systems settings? I could not find it! Thanks guys
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Wiidesire:
go to Settings then Options and then go to the last one and then press 7 times on the Build number and then the Developing-option will be enabled and there is USB debugging

by the way:

I have successfully installed the slim version and removed my telekom branding, however will I be able to update to a new slim version without data loss?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] laurence0609:
Thank you, sir! Much appreciated
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
If you use Kies or Ota updates then you will lose root access and bloatware will be back.

I'll maintain this thread for long time so best option for you will be to use any of my upcoming firmwares to keep it clean and rooted.

Enjoy
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Impact7:
I guess this was asked here some pages before but I couldn't find the anwser... Why is the HD voice file 1,5GB and the 'normal' ROM 1,7GB if the only difference is HD voice??
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
The NORMAL firmware is fully loaded with cache & hidden partition...

Rest of them have CSC implanted into system and no more hidden partition as it contains bloatware :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Impact7:
But the first one of your modified ROM is odexed and still contains the apps you removed in the slim-deodexed version. Am I right? Maybe I didn't catched up enough sleep but I'm a bit confused right now.^^

Even though, great work! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
My ROMs are UNBRANDED .... not de-bloated..... NO carriers apps or anything... All basic apps are still there....

SLIM version had some of them removed ....

enjoy
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] malybru:
Hi,

I'm trying to help someone who cannot post here.

Any suggestions?

:)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
????? What's the problem? I need more details if you want me to help..... Tell this person to post in my other thread, in General Section....
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Fishweb74:
Hello, if I install a Custom Recovery in your rom will it continue to work as an official rom? if I were to bring it to service would see that the device has changed? thank you!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Fishweb74:
sorry !! I had not read
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Robbie Hood:
Can anyone who can flash correctly via Odin or Heimdall pls provide the following to me in a zip ?

My I9505 is hard locked in the bootloaders and i want to check out the bootloaders that allow some people to flash.

via adb run

adb shell
su
mkdir -p /data/media/0/bootloaders
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/data/media/0/Sbl1.bin
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 of=/data/media/0/Sbl2.bin
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5 of=/data/media/0/Sbl3.bin
adb pull /data/media/0/bootloaders

or in android terminal emulator

su
mkdir -p /data/media/0/bootloaders
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p3 of=/data/media/0/Sbl1.bin
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p4 of=/data/media/0/Sbl2.bin
dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p5 of=/data/media/0/Sbl3.bin

and grab the folder from your sd (/sdcard/bootloaders)

Thanks in advance !
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Here you go mate, my one is unlocked, I can flash whatever I want ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Robbie Hood:
You are da man :highfive:

---------- Post added at 03:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:58 PM ----------

can you do one more ? :D

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p6 /data/media/0/bootloaders/aboot.img
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Done :)

http://d-h.st/x5a

enjoy
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] maverick7777:
LOL, that helped me a lot, I've searched and read and as i've said cant get my head around it as lots of conflicting info.

At the end of the day I come on here for help with people who deal with these things day in day out, if something has been running for months like knox it would take me 3 months of reading through all the threads and things change constantly so what had been said 5 months ago may have changed, had I followed the knox progress from start to this day I wouldnt be confused would I.....?.

Also want to be 100% as its quite a big thing to me to invalidate my warranty on a brand new phone.

Thanks

Mav
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Ciolouse:
Agree with maverick7777.

I'm also still with 4.2.2 (MH1), all post are really confusing.

And when you say Knox free on the file name, there is :

I9505XXUFNC9-PRE-ROOTED-Adam_Kernel-DeOdex-KNOXFree-SuperSlim-CWM.zip

I9505XXUFNC9-OXAFNB8-PRE-ROOTED-KNOX-FREE-ODEX-FULL.rar

There is" KNOX WARRANTY VOID - 0x1!!! " for the Odin version, I do not understand ...

Thanks for help.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] wizard83:
Flashing via cwm will never flash new knox bootloader, the bootloader can be flashed only with odin.

So:

- if you have old bootloader and you want to keep your warranty, simply flash the recovery version

- if you don't care about warranty, flash the odin version, it will install new bootloader and trig the knox counter to 1.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] corkie1:
Hi guys fnb8 & fnc9 have the same change list number. Does this mean they are the same?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] DjeMBeY:
Here we go again......................................................

This is very simple but you guys are making it very complicated....

1. If your S4 has KNOX Bootloader already installed (KNOX things in Download Mode) and you want to keep your warranty (KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0) then GO AWAY and never come back to XDA!! :p

2. If your S4 has KNOX Bootloader and you've got balls, then you say Good Bye to your Warranty (KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0x1 - in Download Mode), flash whatever you want and enjoy!! :) BTW, if you lucky enough then your Warranty won't be void!! It happened to me, I've sent my S4 with KWV: 0x1 and they fixed it and my Warranty is VALID :D They even downgraded my Bootloader back to the old one, KNOX Free :P

3. If your S4 is old and you kept it with Old Bootloader - KNOX FREE - then use CWM Version and enjoy!! :)

4. KNOX FREE - it can be related to ROM or to Bootloader:

a. ROM KNOX FREE - all KNOX apps has been removed, completely KNOX FREE are CWM ROM's.

b. Only Old Bootloaders are KNOX FREE (4.2.2), everything else has KNOX in it...

That's it... Complicated?? Not really.... :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Ciolouse:
Thanks a lot for answer, I'm less stupid now :p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Swanseatom:
How ironic, I've just spent the last few days trying to get my bead around current Knox situation.

My situation is I have a s4 with 4.2.2 launch bootloader for BTU UK firmware.

I managed to work out that in terms of using AOSP it make no difference what bootloader I use. 4.2.2, 4.3, 4.4.2, Knox free or with Knox. I found it doesn't matter with aosp.

Now where there seems to be conflicting info is when you want to use a TW ROM like the latest 4.4.2 ROM but like my situation still have a 4.2.2 day 1 boot loader. There is a lot of info out there that says you need certain modems or radios and certain bootloaders etc it just seems like everyone's information conflicts.

So as per your post I've quoted, As long as you use CWM version it makes NO DIFFERENCE what boot loader your on. Are you able to explain the difference in Odin version s and CWM VERSIONS that makes one work and the other not? I was led to believe that the new 4.4.2 ROMs require stuff from the new bootloaders.

I used to be all in on the s4/note3 Knox situation but been with my nexus 5 since its launch and recently returned to s4.

Regards,

Edit: if it seems like I'm just re asking same question asked what I really want to know/understand is why the CWM versions work but not the Odin versions? Is it simply cause the boot loader is included? So if you removed that the Odin version would also work?