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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
So I get a signal drop of about 2-4 asu about. Its not total loss but its still a loss. Its a beautiful case but for those who live in an area with a bad signal this case could be very bad. Sometimes my signal is normal but it defiantly has a loss at times.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
So are you Ok with the case ?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
No I'm pretty unhappy. I wont use it now :thumbdown:

Its looks amazing but I can't stand that it blocks even a bit of my signal

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ilovetohateiphone:
Signal seems to be unaffected by the case!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
What...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ptesmoke:
trolling at its best
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ilovetohateiphone:
I am based in central london, maybe thats why signal is always very strong
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Trololololololol

I have an extremely strong signal. It doesn't matter I put the case on and its an immediate drop of 2-4 asu and sometimes more. I take the case off and it immediately jumps back up 2-4 asu.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] Ilovetohateiphone:
Hmm.... i will take a closer looks
[Nexus 4 Accessories] setzer715:
You keep using this acronym asu, what does that mean? I've never seen it before.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Scroll down and click asu https://www.google.com/search?safe=....1.1.12.mobile-gws-serp.QwDrsYMnGOY#itp=open0

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
See in my screen pic it says 12 asu under signal strength

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] setzer715:
Interesting, I've never seen, heard or used that term before. We always deal in Receive Signal Strength. Not sure of the purpose of ASU either.

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You should black out your phone number. Thanks for the screenshot.

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One more thing, from what I've read, and from testing I just conducted, asu is not a good way to determine signal strength because it is calculated differently for each technology. So 2G levels will differ from 3G levels and both of those will differ from 4G levels. Receive Signal Strength is the same across all technologies, -90 is -90.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ptesmoke:
I dunno about that...if I turn off my data I get full bars....turn on data...2 bars..the change also corresponds with the dBm in the status screen. you'd have to be in one hell of a location to get -90 dBm across all connections (2g/3g/4g) as the different technologies typically travel by line of sight differently and you'd have to be the luckiest person on earth to get the same signal strength at all connections in the same spot.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Well still no reply from casefanitic .

They sure took the time to delete my review/comments of the case on their site....

Unfudgin believable!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] setzer715:
Really, I think your phone is broken then, this is NOT normal behavior.

Agreed but I think you missed the point of my statement. I wasn't saying that you would have the same signal level on both techs in the same location. I was stating that -90dbm is the same level no matter what your talking about. Cellular, LMR, CB radio's, whatever, -90dbm is -90dbm while ASU changes depending on the technology. 12asu on 3G is a different receive level than 12asu on 4G.

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When reading that wiki is shows a different calculation for 2G and 3G (GSM/UMTS) but both of my phones (S3 and N4) are using the same calculation for GSM and UMTS. The only time it is different is when I'm on LTE. Either the wiki is wrong or Google isn't following that protocol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ptesmoke:
yes I read your post completely wrong. I thought you were referring to the device itself. not the dBm measurement good sir.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I can't believe I posted my phone number thank u for reminding me to delete the attachment Lol.

Yea I was just using asu as reference because its an easy way to track the signal strength when I was watching my signal. I can tell u this much though as soon as I put the case on my signal dropped immediately and when I took the case off it immediately jumped back up. Cheers :beer:

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Interesting :confused:

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] setzer715:
So Canada networks don't use UMTS for voice calls? Must be a way for them to minimize the size of the back haul and the maximum bandwidth they are using for the carrier. Here at T-Mobile US that is how LTE currently works, it is data only. When you make a phone call it hands down to UMTS. This will be going away one day but not now.

Do you see an extra delay when putting up a call due to this? Meaning, when you hit send does it take longer for the phone to start ringing then when making a call on 2G?

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Sorry to all for hijacking the thread, the geek (need for more knowledge) comes out of me sometimes. I'll stop now.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
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[Nexus 4 Accessories] heat361:
Try writing them again and if they don't answer open a dispute with paypal.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
I've sent probably 10 since the case was first being shipped until now.

I get nothing from them.

I will never be ordering anything from them again
[Nexus 4 Accessories] heat361:
Like I said start a dispute with PayPal to get your money back, that's what I would do especially since they are not responding to your emails.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
I know. But I'm going to give then till Friday to refund my $.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Think I'll email them then start a dispute after they don't answer

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Lmk if they reply to you
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Nielos:
Too bad to hear it is unusable because of the signal loss... Isn't there really any alu bumper/ case out there? Or could we ask any case designers, perhaps casefanatic to create a bumper? I don't think a single bumper would interrupt the signal, but I'm not sure..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] snapper.fishes:
Bumper should be fine. All the radio are on the glass backplate.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
If I just put the outer part without the back it effects the signal also. No where near as much as with the back plate on but it does knock the signal down a lil.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] scandalousk:
Seems strange that that happens. Although it would be something I could live with. I'd just combine it with a dbrand skin. But thanks for confirming. Hoping casefanatic responds properly to all the problems people have and perhaps re-design it into a bumper.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
It is strange but u know me well enough to know that what I'm saying is true. I remember someone else posting this and I thought no way but its true.

BTW I've been using the case all day today and my signal is lower buy in real world use I can't see the data speed as any slower. In fact my battery life is even the same so if I didn't know that my signal was lower by looking at its strength I would have never noticed.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Well still no reply for me..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Well they just edited their returns page.....
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Well I just got an instant reply when I threatened to file a dispute with PayPal.

But these people think I'm going to pay shipping. No!

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Shipping estimate through ups and FedEx are both around $70-80 WTF ?

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After my complaining they have agreed to reimburse shipping costs after they receive it.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] limmeister:
WORKS!

Hey all.

I've been following you guys for a little bit now about the kommandant case.

I ordered one myself, and got the case today. Been using it all day, and I've had no issue with it. For the most part, I've been getting full bars (4 bars), and data has been normal. There's no difference. Even Google Maps has been working with the case on, and the screws on at the bottom. I'm in a larger city, though, Vancouver, BC. Maybe that has something to do with it? Case looks beautiful, and hasn't been giving me problems or issues.

When I was waiting for the case to arrive, I'll be honest. I had some reservations about whether my phone would work or if it'd be a brick. Since I've had the case, and put it on, it's been fine. I've been able to text, receive calls, make calls, tweet, go on facebook, go on foursquare, etc, etc.

Just wanted to post and give you guys a heads up. I got the red/black kommandant case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jiayit:
Hmm, .. Should I take a risk? I ordered it previously via Taobao but cancelled the order after some said that they were having problems with it.

Also, is the black anodized? Does the black wear off, like the iPhone 5's anodized aluminum? Thanks!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] limmeister:
I took a risk. for some reason. it hasn't and doesn't my phone that much. there is still a drop. for me. it's one bar. but my phone is still very much useable still. doesn't bother as much. if the bars dropped until it wasn't useable. then I'd have a problem with that. but the phone is absolutely beautiful to look at and use.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Bahaaa your funny in one post u say there is no difference in data in the next u say there is a 1 bar drop :p. Anyways yes mine was still use able but I'm OCD and can't stand any type of data drop. I sold mine to a very good friend of mine in the Netherlands so I hope he has more luck like u. I could handle a bar being dropped but I lost more like a 1/3 to a 1/2 of my data strength at times. I've posted this before but I didn't notice much as far as real use my data being much slower but I could see a obvious drop in my signal. I mean it was instantaneous the second I put the case on my data dropped and the second I took it off my signal jumped back up. So my view is if u aren't OCD like me and can handle knowing u are blocking your signal a lil bit go for buying the case. Its still usable but also remember a lower signal strength means your phone is working harder to get a signal thus using more battery. BTW its the best looking case I've ever had for the n⁴ its absolutely beautiful and adds less bulk than a lg bumper. Buttons work amazing on it too

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] jiayit:
My only reserve about buying the case is the black coating wearing off.. Does it?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] limmeister:
should've stated it clearer that there was one bar dropped. the only reason I didn't is cause most of the day there was no signal loss with the exception of me being in the basement, but I had problems with that even before I put on the case. I've never (so far) had more than one bar dropped. so for me. the case has been fine. I can live with one bar being dropped. I'm not OCD. haha. so think that is okay for me. but it might be for others like yourself an issue. if it is. then I don't recommend getting this case and going with something else. but if it doesn't bother you as much. then get the case. it's nice and people will definitely notice :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I know bro I was just rustlin your jimmies :p

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Its anodized I believe.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] limmeister:
haha. i have no idea what "rustlin' your jimmies" mean :P
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dirtyhamster73:
It means "busting your balls" :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] snapper.fishes:
I am not too sure about that definition
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dirtyhamster73:
Well, jimmies is supposedly- "feelings" or "ego", which by my definition of "feelings" or "ego" translates to "balls". Or could translate to balls is what I should say.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Diryhamster is right. Busting balls is a perfect analogy and I should know cause my kittens told me so.

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] duclethien:
I've just received my case this morning !

The Signal full and GPS work fine !

May be they fixed it ... Somehow !
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Lol or not ;)

Magic aluminum from fairyland :p

I'm glad it works well for u bro :thumbup:

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] AlexWekell:
This case is great at making a nexus 4 look like an iphone lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] snapper.fishes:
The iPhone looks like a black rectangular slab... Just like any other phone that's also black and rectangular
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yespinosa:
If anyone is interested in selling theirs I will take it off your hands, I am looking for the silver one and can't seem to find it in ebay. PM with the price and info.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] reeco:
Same with me please.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
I have the silver one with black back. If that's what you are referring to?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] reeco:
How much you want for it mate?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
Well now ATM I have to use it for a week or so until I can get a new case.

I dropped my phone. Broke the case I had on it :(

Phone is still perfect though :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] yespinosa:
Hey if you're interested I have a diztronic I can send along with cash depending on your asking price.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jxbanks:
Hmmm, I'm trying to decide whether or not to get this case?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] myturbo1:
This is what it does to my phone.. The most I ever get is 1 bar signal.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] N4ever:
I suggest you all work this out through PM, this is starting to be a mod attracting frenzy...

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[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
I understand the case has issues, but really want to try one out still. Is anyone interested in selling one of these? Im open to any colors but prefer one with some red. Casefanatic magically went out of stock after i ordered, and then raised their prices and told me to re order :/

So if you want to sell one please PM me!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] :
I would also like to buy one, so if anyone is seeking theirs pm me as well it would be much appreciated:)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Zainiak:
Damn I didn't think that was possible
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Cut mine back by one third. My buddy in the Netherlands who I sold mine to it doesn't effect his at all. It's crazy

We see you meow on our nexus⁴ can we haz some more?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
And that's exactly why I simply want to give one a try! Haha
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
If I still had mine I'd sell it to ya bro.

We see you meow on our nexus⁴ can we haz some more?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
And i thank you for that! Haha, ill just have to keep my eyes open. They stopped selling red though :( but i contacted their staff and they said they might be getting a few returns of red that they can ship me. Fingers crossed!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Samstag494:
Hello,

I'm living in cologne and got my case yesterday. As far as I can see I got no recognizable signal loss. I have 4 bars in my apartment without the case and still 4 bars with it. I will post some screens later to show the asu changes.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Karlo666:
I bought Black/Black cant wait for it!!!!

http://i.imgur.com/rvqrJiU.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/MxKwWcw.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/lymLJAt.jpg
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jiayit:
After you receive it and have used it for a week or so, do you mind updating me with whether the black scratches easily or not, like the iPhone 5. Thanks! That's what's holding me back from buying.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Karlo666:
[MENTION=5220142]jiayit[/MENTION]

Sure no problem
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jiayit:
OT but Fluttershy is best pony. To me anyway!

Back to topic, have you guys managed to get refunds with signal loss? I live in a SMALLLLLL country but the signal still sucks anyway.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpttrung:
I got mine today, and i have weak signal and wifi too @@
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
If you ever decide you don't want it anymore, PM me and ill buy it from you!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Karlo666:
[MENTION=5220142]jiayit[/MENTION]

Ok so i got my today installed it and i signal is 1 bar down didnt tested on yet WiFi.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpttrung:
Well it really makes signal drop but dont care hehe. This case looks amazing ! :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Karlo666:
Agreed!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
So i finally got one of these cases thanks to [MENTION=1933323]jboogie3[/MENTION]

I gotta say that I love it. OBVIOUSLY its just a beautiful case in the first place. It is also extremely sturdy, so I'm not worried about denting. The case also appears to be anodized, so the color itself shouldn't scratch off. It can still scratch, just it wont peel off whatever color you choose.

Signal loss has NOT been an issue for me actually. Without the case I get 12ASU at my house. In the exact same spot with the case it only drops to 11ASU with no bar changes. So I definitely cant complain about that.

As for GPS, it definitely struggles. It isn't gone, but it will be working to find it. I have yet to try NFC, but it probably wont work.

Andddd with that said, that's my experience! Ill update the post with any new changes I find myself :D
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Dimatchka:
Wow this case looks bad. Why not make a metal bumpers? Like the Taurus aluminum number for the s2. I have it and its super sexy. When they come out with something similar for the n4 I'll get it. Full metal case is a waste of money and not worth the loss of reception and basic phone functionality.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I wish there was a metal bummer :(

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 Accessories] doppiosogno:
Hello everybody,

I just want to inform you all that on taobao there's another seller named XIBICEN selling a slightly different aluminum case (it has the same design of the Kommandant apart volume keys ad holes for camera and loudspeaked on the back).

Is tehre someone who could please suggest me a reliable Taobao agent/site (something as buychina.com,) to buy from this seller???Thanks a lot
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
There is also this aluminum case which in the video shows that it has a cutout area for the GPS and cellular signal. I'm gonna buy one and I'll let you guys know how it turns out. http://www.wirelessground.com/google-nexus-4-aluminum-case-black.html

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^<
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Nice! Reminds me of the aluminium case for the old PDA's of old lol. I remember the cases were aluminum and was great protection, but a bit bulky for a device. But I guess great for people who put their devices in their back pockets.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Andrew025:
I had one very similar to that for my iPod 6 years ago.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] :
This is my silver on silver, will upload a better quality showing the logo later
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
I saw that one in some of my searches. I just think it looks....bad.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
I thought so too till I saw the YouTube video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzGhMMW8gus&feature=youtube_gdata_player

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
I think its the belt clip that ruins it for me. I just yell inside, "That's so 90's!".

But idk, my Kommandant has no problems. Signal loss is virtually non existent, and GPS still works, just a bit slower.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DowntownJeffBrown:
Haha too funny :D

Yea I'll never use that. I don't like how it has the bump for it. We will see if I don't like it then I'll let you guys know. I'm hoping though and that the vents for the GPS and cellular signal actually works. I bought the kommendant and it would take about a third of my signal :(. Sux cause the kommandant is one great looking case.

“It is said that power corrupts, but actually it's more true that power attracts the corruptible. The sane are usually attracted by other things than power.” ― David Brin >^.^
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
Sad faces :(
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpttrung:
After few weeks using this case now i found out that it makes the gps signal gone. :eek:

I think i not gonna use this case again :(
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
If it silver, lemme know! I may be willing to buy it from you :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpttrung:
Nah. Its the red one.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
Darn. I got the red/black one. But I have a friend who might be interested if you are! message me if you want and ill ask him
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mpttrung:
Where.u live at ? I live at santa ana Ca
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
Im in Colorado Springs
[Nexus 4 Accessories] konfidential:
Just got my case today....gonna test it out in a few...lol I already know it's gonna suck
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FallN:
Why hasn't anyone considered simply drilling slates in the back where the GPS/radios are (similar to that bulky Monaco case)? :confused:

DUH!

Time to break out a marker and a Dermal tool, boys! Get at it!! :D

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
Take pictures :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FallN:
Haha! I would if I had the case but I don't. I really can't see myself waiting weeks to a month for a case...

But if anyone is selling theirs please PM me. I'll buy it and do some modifying. Then post pics here. :cool:

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Accessories] BryWr:
You could ask [MENTION=1569207]mpttrung[/MENTION]

He has a red/black one. I passed on buying ti from him because I already have the same color :)