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[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Do you get worse battery life on touchwiz based ROMs on S3? You get around 6 hours on average on S3? :confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] rani9990:
On AOSP. TW is around 5 hours.
[Galaxy Note II General] Elvecio:
I think that the poor battery life issue of the AOSP roms for the Note 2 are related to the exynos CPU. With the Qualcomm, things might change.
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
It used to be that the Exynos was miles ahead of everything else, but the Qualcomm S4 is not that far behind in terms of speed. I bought the S3 i9300 (now a Note 2) because the Exynos 4412 is ridiculously fast and the Qualcomm S4 dual core in the US models is noticeably slower compared to it. Not anymore with the S4.

But anyways, I played with an S4. The screen is nice but not noticeably sharper unless your eyes is directly up to it. What makes it look better are the new default icons. Trust me, I'm a marketing major and this is designed to make your current phone feel obsolete. The back of the phone is ugly and cheap feeling with the textured bumps. The only thing it has that we don't yet is 4.2.2 Touchwiz. That's it. If the HTC One had a removable battery and card slot, I'd probably choose that over it.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] sos_sifou:
Good point :)

Best regards

Sifou

Using a Samsung N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Agree totally. There is no reason to upgrade from an s3 let alone a note 2 apart from the "I has more mp than you" factor. Thing is many people are idiots and will upgrade just simply because the numbers are bigger.

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[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
Plenty of reasons to upgrade from s3. 2gb of ram, Google edition, 4.2.2, IR transmitter. Looking forward to the GE GS4. The note2 is cool and all, but I'd rather have a smaller phone and been looking to a phone having IR again. Comes in handy more than you think. Also, hopefully Sammy has the SDS issue sorted out.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
US and Canadian and Korean S3s have 2GB of RAM. It's just a speed boost and IR blaster. If you want AOSP, flash a custom ROM.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
The i9300 only had one GB of ram. I am not much into carrier phones unless their firmware can be taken off. And I can't load anything on my nite2. Supposedly loading custom recoveries makes SDS more likely to pop up.

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[Galaxy Note II General] geovas77:
I will be staying with my Note at least until the Note 3, nothing else has managed to even slightly make me consider changing phones!
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Dude, could you reduce the size of your signature? It's giving me a headache.

And I prefer Note II display to be honest - not sure if it's just me, but whites appear much more whiter on N2. Either way it's not much of a difference, Both have gorgeous displays.
[Galaxy Note II General] xcly:
Switched from S3 to N2 after 8 months.. gotta say the battery life is amazing.. I had to take some extreme measures on the S3 just to last a day but that is easily achievable on N2 without any modifications (except rooting). S pen is another factor that puts me off the S4.

In my opinion display and sound is already up to minimum standard people would expect on a smartphone so no need to get worked up about some random "better" display etc.. S4 features will eventually be ported over by xda developers so I'm not too fussed. Just eagerly waiting to see what N3 can offer.
[Galaxy Note II General] endingcolt007:
Hi. How do the two displays compare in terms of sharpness? I mean is the lower pixel density on the n2 noticeable when compared to s4? also would it be noticeable when s4 is removed from the picture?

I am currently using s4 but other than the resolution i think the n2 has more to offer and is a better device, so was looking to sell the s4 and buy n2 (and pocket a few extra bucks in process). would it be worth it or should i keep the s4?
[Galaxy Note II General] sublimaze:
It depends on who you ask. Some people can readily distinguish between 720p/1080p. But I bet if you put identical themes, icons & wallpapers on a S4 and GN2, most people wouldn't know the difference.

If you plan to watch 1080p movies on your phone and you need a phone with that capability *now*, and you can do without the extra GN2 features & killer battery life, and you prefer a smaller form factor & smaller screen, then the S4 is probably a better phone for you. Otherwise, GN2 is a better deal imo. The GN2 will probably get most (if not all) of the 4.2 software goodies of the S4 with the next update.
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
the gnote2 is an excellent device. the 720p looks awesome and is hard to distinguish from the 1080p phones out even though ppi is lower with the bigger screen even. i am looking to downsize and have AOSP on my gs4 and that is why i might be selling my gnote2 soon or selling my gtab2 and keeping my gnote2 as my in house tablet. me, personally, i would be happy with 720p still. less processing power needed, better battery life, probably would've been full RGB pixels and still looks great. the gnote2 is a beast even with touchwiz. some of touchwiz is actually good on the gnote2. it is terrible on gs3 and from waht i've played with nothing to write home about on the gs4.
[Galaxy Note II General] NightOrchid:
Yep, no way would I change to an S4, its just a bigger S3, plus unless you are developer or emulator gamer, who needs 8 cores on a 5" screen phone, seriously.. no wonder the batteries bad, when I look around most people just text, make phone calls and surf the web, which you can do on an S2.

Ive only had the N2 for 6 weeks of my 2 year contract, but I love it and cant imagine using anything else Android, But If I was to change my phone it would be to the Windows 8 OS, such as an Ativ S or HTC 8X.

Even though Google Play have made their marketplace look better and its been tidied up a bit, it can still feel as if apps are all over the place and theres way to many free apps full of adverts, links and cookies rubbish. Theres just something lovely and simple about Metro and Windows Marketplace and the W8 phones just plug in as Media devices or UMS drives.. no more Zune :)

Rock on N2 :)
[Galaxy Note II General] a4abell:
One thing everyone who prefers the note 2 fails to see is that once the note 3 comes out . the note 2 will start falling back. So in the long run the galaxy s4 will remain superior in terms of hardware (maybe not battery life)

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[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Not at all for me. Unless you use some magnifying glass or something. The text is marginally (it's really close, but if you're being really anal) crisper on S4, but the screen real estate makes up for that marginal difference IMO.

Note II has larger pixels since it uses sRGB pixel arrangement than pentile - so there's that to take into account too. Just flash a color calibrated kernel on Note II and you'd have absolutely gorgeous screen.

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What on earth are you talking about?
[Galaxy Note II General] apallohadas:
Other than the obvious referral link, I couldn't make out what he was trying to say either.
[Galaxy Note II General] tbong777:
Note is in a different class than the S series. S4 is an upgrade to the S3 not the Note 2. Only the Note 3 will be an actual upgrade. Even then the Note 2 is such a good phone, I will not be in any hurry to upgrade to the Note 3 Especially if the bootloader is locked down. I have always bought the International versions but LTE may be here with the Note 3 launch so I will have to make a choice between LTE and a clean unlocked phone.

Meh...I use less than 500MB of carrier data a month so LTE won't be all that for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Once the Note 3 comes out the s4 will also "start falling back". Please take your spam elsewhere.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Galaxy Note II General] Haplok:
I'd say no difference worth mentioning for photos, movies, wallpapers, icons.

A fairly significant difference for texts, such as webpages, when zoomed out (trying to read such small text is not necessarily good for your eyes... but quite doable in 1080p).

Some difference in 3d games - then again the increase in processing power needed is crazy and will lead to much worse fps. A bit of antialiasing may look almost as nice, but won't turn your game into a slideshow. So I'll take the slightly uglier but fluid game, over the choppy, better looking one. Especially that the controls are so much better on the Note 2 due to the greater screen estate (and SPen in some games).
[Galaxy Note II General] AlluXX:
Maybe, maybe not. We dont know yet when Note 3 will be out or even if theres gonna be N3. And secondly, we yet dont know how long Samsung is going to support N2 with new updates.

And when we think that N2 hit the stores only half year ago, there can be year or two for N3 to wait.
[Galaxy Note II General] Asadian:
S4 not much better AT ALL..

My friend just got the S4 and seeing as I have had my note 2 for months now he wanted to rub it in my face Lol. But after playing with it side by side and showing him all the things the N2 already had for awhile he walked away admitting that in its current state he liked My note 2 better HAhahaha. I got to play around for awhile so I will list my observations....

1)Screen: When I first looked at his screen I was like WOW this thing is sharper and brighter. COme to find out he locked his brightness at 100% while I had mine auto in an attempt to deceive me Rofl. After setting mine all the way up the Note 2 actually looked brighter to my eyes. I am not being biased here the N2 was noticeably brighter.

The screen sharpness was an illusion. The guy who said "the screen looks better because of the new default icons" hit the nail directly on the head. WHen playing videos or games the Note 2 looked just as good as the S4 hands down. The only time his screen looked better was the home screen icons. It's a marketing trick.

2)Speed: Opening apps, playing games, etc. My note 2 was equally as fast and in most cases faster than the S4. The S4 also has a noticeable "stutter" or "lag" whenever I would open or close an app. I'm serious this thing had obvious lag.

Another issue I noticed is that the S4 gets HOT FAST. I mean REALLY REALLY HOT. Just doing a couple minutes of trivial things like browsing the web or making phone calls would cause the phone to be uncomfortably hot. Alot of people say this is due to all the software. I disagree. I think this is because of the decision made by Sammy to crank the S4 all the way up to 1.9 ghz in an attempt to say "look, we have the fastest phone".

In benchmarks the S4 blew my note 2 away. In real world practical use the Note 2 was much more fluid. That's what happens I guess when you gotta push all those pixels around.

3) Build Quality: Typical Samsung. CHeap plastic all around. The S4 was WAY to light in my opinion. There was no substance to the phone at all.

4)Camera: Pictures are a little more detailed on the S4. Camcorder was about the same on both devices.

I never got to test call quality extensively. The S4 about fried my ear off when he put his wife on the phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] dazza7111:
Samsung made a serious error in making the note 2. Its the only phone you'll ever need lol for a long time!!!
[Galaxy Note II General] farfromovin:
Yeah, I'll need to keep my Note2 until at least the Note3 comes out. In all seriousness, I played with a buddies Sprint S4 and I think that stock phone is much more fluid than my Tmo Note2 stock. The big difference is in the widget drawer. Flicking through it with zero stutter while my device on TW always had stutter at first.

Now on AOSP, my device has no lag in the widget drawer but that's apples and oranges...
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
It's more of a Sammy/general Android bug. I've seen people on AOSP 4.1.x ROMs complain about widget drawer lag. Don't forget, the S4 is 4.2.2. Honestly though, after playing with the S4, if my Note 2 broke right now, I'd go with the T-Mobile One. I love being able to use a memory card, but with 32GB built in, I don't mind having to empty out my phone like once a year. Plus the build quality is MILES ahead of anything Samsung's ever put out. And Sense 5 is much more refined than Touchwiz. I still prefer Samsung phones overall, but I feel like the One is the first grownup Android phone. It's not all about specs anymore (even though it has the same specs as the S4). Before I get yelled at by my fellow Sammy fans, trust me, play with an S4 and then try the One. You'll see what I mean. I don't care about S-Health, or being able to swipe with my hand in the air. Both phones have IR transmitters. The One is built and looks better. HTC has much better warranty policies (my friend soldered a wire onto the antenna on his One X's motherboard to try and fix the antenna issue, and they still replaced it...plus it was bought in the UK and he lives here in the US). Samsung is doing what Apple is doing now. They turned on cruise control just Apple did after the iPhone 3G. Same phone, higher resolution screen and camera, bumped specs. The last good phone they put out is the Note 2. Who knows, if the Note 3 is revolutionary I'll get it. I'm just saying between the S4 and One, I'd take the One. It took me a while to admit it. But there it is. That's hypothetically IF my Note 2 broke and I had to choose between those 2.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
If my Note 2 broke I'd probably replace it with a Note 2. If I had to choose between the One and the S4, I'd be inclined towards the One. There's just something ugly about the S4 and it's also loaded with unnecessary features.

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[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
That's exactly what I'm saying, spot on.
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
I don't think all S4 features are gimmicky - I just feel too paranoid about their thin bezel design and suspect the cracked screen complaint is due to throttling or the awfully thin bezel. And obviously it feels like Note 2 without the screen and insane battery - so I'd probably give One a shot, just for a change. Don't care about the metal body, I much prefer plastic tbh.
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
I still have my Note 2 but am currently using an S4. I really like it. It's like a souped up GN2 Mini. :D
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
Galaxy mini minus the note part? :D

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
By "minus the note part", do you mean use of the SPen? Honestly, I've been using it less and less every day eventhough I splurged on a really nice Bamboo Feel Carbon Fiber edition.
[Galaxy Note II General] Techno848:
Surely s4 is awsome bt upgrading from note 2 to gs4 is nt necessary :D
[Galaxy Note II General] m.4_ts@yahoo.com:
note 2

definitely keeping my note 2.. samsung updates are mostly software's so anything on s4 can be ported to note 2.. note 3 would be better than s4 anyways..:highfive:
[Galaxy Note II General] dickson123:
I've had note 2 since October when it came out, just got the gs4 free on a new contract, and I hate it. The note 2 will browse all day on a charge and stay cool, after 15 minutes the gs4 (snap 600 version) is hot and the battery drops away quickly. In addition, I can't use my decent headphones because the snapdragon version of the gs4 has a hardware problem with the DAC causing it to crackle all over the place when you listen to music above 65% volume which is ridiculous....
[Galaxy Note II General] smoka911:
Wasn't all that impressed with the S4 and i don't think i could go back to a smaller screen
[Galaxy Note II General] Ev0d3vil:
Hi guys I just swapped! Awesome phone but which root method should I use?
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Framaroot is the easiest

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[Galaxy Note II General] saurabh88:
but how you guys keep life up with proximity sensor peoblem while calling.its irritate me but all other than that are fine.
[Galaxy Note II General] Ev0d3vil:
How about chain fires? I used to use him back when I had my s3..
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
That will increase the flash counter while framaroot will not.

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[Galaxy Note II General] dazza7111:
Hmm not heard of that Thanks! Although you can use triangle away but I will look into this. :)

Wow worked while at work with no computer lol
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Framaroot is also easier in the sense that no pc is required to perform the root. It can all be done on the phone in less than one minute. Just install the apk, choose if you want to install superuser or supersu, click on the "legolas" button, then reboot.

When your phone restarts you'll be fully rooted, no mess, no fuss.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2130276

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Galaxy Note II General] Ev0d3vil:
Wow!! skipping odin? Will it install a recovery program too?
[Galaxy Note II General] johngreener:
TOTAL AGREE WITH YOU

note 2 is powerful and useful enough,

why we would cost more money for s4?
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Now that I have a Note 8 I may consider a Galaxy S4 Google edition, if the battery life is good.

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[Galaxy Note II General] csmiler:
To me the only phone which will one up the Note 2 will probably be the Note 3, although I like the looks of the One, all the other phones are pretty much the same to me, the Note 2 at least offers the pen and a gigantic screen to keep it unique for a while :D

I didn't think aesthetics mattered to me, i'll probably pick my next phone with a different set of criteria :silly:
[Galaxy Note II General] taha_e:
I'm Samsung fan and I was going to buy S4 and go to the shop for 3 different days to buy but everyday came out happy to have NoteII
[Galaxy Note II General] jlczl:
After a brief stint with an HTC One and an S4 I'm back to the Note 2. I'm glad I didn't sell it while I was trying out other phones. Overall, it's just got too many positives and now I'm sure it won't be replaceable with anything other than the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note II General] tbong777:
The International version of the Note 3. ATT is locking bootloaders. ATT S4 cannot be unlocked......
[Galaxy Note II General] Product F(RED):
Don't forget RAT locking the modem so you can't change the network Mode.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] sohebq:
Used the demo unit of S4 which was fully working for somewhat less than a minute and gave it back to the shopkeeper. Its beautiful and wayyy too much lighter than note 2, but the reason I gave it back is because it looked like a TOY to me.
[Galaxy Note II General] HUYI:
i don't care about a s4 or a note 3 the next best thing will come out in 2 years time (note 4) i will enjoy my note 2 in the meantime.
[Galaxy Note II General] ppn7:
I agree with you, note 3 will just have a better resolution and camera, the rest is for me useless like 3GB or a 2,3GHZ since with 1,6GHZ of note 2 it's just enough to enjoy with all feature of note 2 !! And we got zerolemon 9300mah so you can even OC the CPU/GPU or put another governor as performance.

Indeed if you need a bigger screen and you love full HD, you should buy it but i'm really happy with 720p screen of note 2. No need more and with zerolemon, you can beat all the phone for the next 12 mounths and even more.

The only thing i regret, no dual front speaker on note 2, maybe they will put it in note 3 ? But i doubt seriously...
[Galaxy Note II General] @rbiter:
1080p would be nice, but full rgb [MENTION=3621271]720p[/MENTION] would be preferable for battery reasons. Getting rid of the physical home button and using the back, home and recent apps as capacitive buttons (preferably software like aosp would be vest) would be awesome. In that order too. Not the backwards setup. Quad core exynos a15 with power vr graphics, lte, slide to wake built in, dual front speakers and dedicated camera shutter button. As for the dual front speakers, if they make the extra mics for noise cancellation and use software buttons for navigation, then what would really be awesome is there would be no wrong to hold the phone. It would instantly adapt the sound and recording to the way you're holding it.

Sent from my GT-N7100

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1080p would be nice, but full rgb [MENTION=3621271]720p[/MENTION] would be preferable for battery reasons. Getting rid of the physical home button and using the back, home and recent apps as capacitive buttons (preferably software like aosp would be vest) would be awesome. In that order too. Not the backwards setup. Quad core exynos a15 with power vr graphics, lte, slide to wake built in, dual front speakers and dedicated camera shutter button. As for the dual front speakers, if they make the extra mics for noise cancellation and use software buttons for navigation, then what would really be awesome is there would be no wrong to hold the phone. It would instantly adapt the sound and recording to the way you're holding it.

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II General] jonsmith709:
Sold my Note2, got the S4 on contract, returned the S4 after a week and now have the Note 2 again although this time N7105. On the S4 I exchanged one for another because it had a pink hue at the bottom of the screen on whites, on the 2nd was the same although really nice screen on other colours, also I thought my Note was faster as the S4 was laggy.
[Galaxy Note II General] aspot72:
Same here, except I went for HTC One. "Survived" 7 weeks and now back to Note 2. This is the best device from all top-dogs...
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
They are slightly worse specs wise and have no s-pen.

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[Galaxy Note II General] Note_2:
I don't think the s4 is an upgrade from the note 2. One thing I would really like from the s4 is an ir blaster though, turning off tvs would be hilarious of you could get our top function like a tv b gone.
[Galaxy Note II General] blitzkriegh:
I skipped S4 and bought the Note 2 instead yesterday. no regrets as I'm loving the Spen, and the bigger screen. i did play around with the s4 before buying it. S4 has a lot of gimmicks to complement its new apps and sensors. the screen resolution is very nice indeed. however, the Note2 still prevailed IMO. I hope some of the S4 apps gets ported to our device specially the story album, camera and gallery.
[Galaxy Note II General] saintsinner25:
I'm gonna jump ship to the HTC One in 4 months.have owned samsung flagships for a long time and now i'm kinda bored with the UI.besides that the aluminium body looks beautiful.so does sense 5.
[Galaxy Note II General] anonymous572:
I'm gonna skip Galaxy Note 3. I am looking forward for Galaxy Note 4 at september 2014. :o
[Galaxy Note II General] akuma2012:
You have it all planned out!
[Galaxy Note II General] charmz2k2:
I've got the chance to swap my n7100 to any 4g phone available (unfortunately note 2 lte is apparently more hassle to get) so tempted by the s4, not interested in the gimmicks but it seems like a slightly smaller note 2 without the s pen.

Still not 100% convinced but i have the note 10.1 so won't really miss the s pen hopefully...

Camera is hopefully better, but as we all know it's not always about resolution.

Will see on Monday :confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
What you'll miss the most is not the screen, the camera or the S-pen it's..... THE BATTERY!

I almost bought the S4 but went for the Note II instead. The best decision I've made since I let my wife get into my pants. Don't get me wrong, I love the big screen and the S-pen but the battery life on this phone is my new standard. All my future phones will need to equal or surpass the Note II's battery life. Not having to think or calculate how to make the day without running out of battery is something irreplaceable.
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
LMAO :highfive:

Seriously though, absolutely. Won't ever, ever, go back to those days where I have to micromanage my phone to make it through the day. This is the only phone that to date, hasn't died on me. And it gets all my love for that!