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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andaryjos:
my s4 got up to 70 degrees Celsius... when does it turn off?

Okay I know for almost all electronic devices that produce large amounts of heat have an emergency shutdown. But my phone this morning, I had it und3r my pillow charging... Not doing anything else. And I just woke up a few seconds ago to find my s4 burning hot under my pillow. With the screen saying "charging paused due to heat" or something along the lines of that, and my temperature widget saying 70.1 celcius! . I then turned it off and put my phone in front of a fan for about 5 minutes it cooled off pretty quick, turned it back on went to temperature readings fo4 the CPU and it was saying about 32 celcius... The phone seems to be working fine. I haven't really tested much on it. But still when is the emergency shutdown. Because if I didn't wake up... My phone probably would have been done for...

I have a galaxy s4 i9505 m919v. I made an account just to post this so other people don't make the same mistake that I did.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
After another Replacement

Hi Everyone,

I'm here again. Just got home from T-mobile. So i got a replacement again ..can not count how many.. 4th phone

Even i have been having the phone for 3 weeks they are still replacing it for me. Unfortunately against every effort what i made the phone is still having the "S Fry" feature. It goes up to 50'C but i am still testing the replacement. Although the last phone what i had went up to 61'C.. Till that one is the winner. Sadly i have to say if the problem still exist then it is going to be a Hardware issue. However in T-mobile they said i should wait for an update.. of course then i can replace my phone because we do not know when the update is coming yet..

I am pretty curious to find out the problem.. It seems stupid but if i see a man on the street i just go there and ask him about the overheating.. Most of them thinks i am a retard or stg but i dont give a ****.. Still noone said they experienced that..So my second question is usually that.:

"Do you play games with the phone?" The answer is as usual NO...

I asked a couple of ppl who owns the phone in T-mobile as well... Of course they do not play games then they say the phone is good..

Although i dont know nothing about the overheating issue when you do Web Browsing.. For me it does not get overheated.. Just when im playing a game or making a phone call via Viber. It gets hot there where is the CPU which means stg ****ed up in the phone what is hard to believe. But that is the truth.... Samsung fu*cked up this series. Everyone facing with this issue even they say no. If you play a game then it comes out.

I Love Samsung..i mean their phones. They are really good and trying to do everything for the customers..except fixing the overheating issue

Unfortunately ill get rid of the S4 if the replacement has the same issue. I am using Viber a lot. Skype as well.. After 15-20mins of calling it's burning off my ears.. Also it is not good for the brain.

Ill post again what i could find out about the replacement. I'm sorry if i couldnt help. I tried my best.. Now i have to find out wadda hell i should buy if i get rid of it..Apple? Noh way :D

Anyway, i post tomorrow what is happening..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unandroidemas:
I never played games but when I'm using skype the temp goes up to 56°C.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
via wifi or 4g?

Hey Buddy,

Are you using it via Wi-Fi or 3G data connection? I've tried Viber via 4G which i guess using the same stuff for calling as Skyp.. After 15mins the temperature was 44'C..Last time it went up over 50'C.

How long is the call with Skype which led to overheat?

I do another test via Wi-Fi into an other country to see what happens..

It also went up to 44'C when i was using google chrome. I heard the pre-installed Internet application has not got this issue...

Ill tell you tomorrow what happened..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
I got my update and no more heating issues.. camera issues solved.. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renosj:
Hi, what kind of update do you mean?Please, be more specific:)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
hate my hot s4 !

Maatenf please just check your firmware in settings/more/about device and let us know. You mean you dont have any overheating even when gaming ? And what is your temperature while browsing or using skype or other stuff what need internet ? Ahh and u have octa or quad version ?

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Please let us know your firmware if u dont remember update as u can be first who sorted it heh as i didnt hear yet about any proper update for overheating mate
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thanhsmr:
i9500

you shouldn't use 3g and remove bloatware
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
hate my hot s4 !

You mean on wifi only not overheating for you ? Whats temperatures you have than ? I have bloatware switched off
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renosj:
For everybody who have overheat problems, try new FW. According some users its better with new ROM! Info here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2319120&page=7
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
possible fix ! :)

Hope thats true :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Enter The Void:
yes, my s4 heated up so much i could barely hold it the other day, especially true if you have an aluminum case.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
what do you mean by camera issues? my camera gets heated up even if i click 9-10 pics (ext thermistor upto 47C).. so is that the issue you are talking about? Also, what is you normal phone temp when you are browsing internet or just casually using your phone? Please give us a snapshot of external thermistor temp if you can(*#0228#).. thanks.

My normal temperatures are (i haven't upgraded to the latest firmware yet)-

Camera- 47C

Phone browsing- 36C

2G for 30 mins- 50C

Charging- 48C

Idle- 32C

Voice Calling- 38C
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
overheating fixed ?

Do you have brightness seted to auto ? Or more brightness ?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
i have selected auto for screen brightness.. still these temperatures.. i guess by your reply these aren't normal :(
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
still overheating ?

Maine doesnt go higher than 46 on 2g edge weak signal in full brightness and no difference how long surfing
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yfotso:
The heating issue only happened once to me.

My S4 started heating after like 20-30minutes of constant use and battery life was around 15%.

It has not happened since.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
and the other temperatures? camera, usual phone browsing and calls? Is my phone overheating here as well?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
Didnt test nothing proper yet as dont have wifi calls not either but I will check camera
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
Do continuous shots with camera or a record

If you do continuous shots with the camera or just make a record the temperature will go up to 47'C.. or more...depending how long you do recording..

Also when i am using either 3G or Wi-fi and making a call on Skype or Viber.. It gets up to 50'C..abnormal

The brightness is on minimal for me..

Guys who do not experience overheating. Try these things or applications.. Then you will.. Some of you do not bother this temperature i know. But after 20mins of calling via Skype or Viber it will be frustrating..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
exactly my observations.. i hope this update has something better in store for us.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
Update

Yep, i hope that as well but i doubt it.. Anyway i wait for 3 more days.. If there will be no update or any news about this issue i just bring it back. That is my third replacement...getting tired of bringing back. Good phone but fu*ked up at at the moment. It Would be nice if i were live in Alaska...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
Its depending from when u starting measure it. Always do it after idle mode while is cooled down than your temperatures will be lover mate
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
My phone gets to 45c (external temp) but only when playing games and other intensive tasks, normal usuage it only gets mildly warm..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
woah! that is awesome.. your phone is a rare case i guess.. is this temperature after the latest firmware update or before it?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
Yes so we have a answer octa is 5-6 c hotter than quad I am on xxuamdd i think this is old firmware I cant check update cause got it rooted and dont have wifi yet to flash newest firmware maybe will be even cooler as a lot people dont know how to measure properly thats why we have overheaters and not overheaters hheh
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
Mines the one before mea? If that's right? Aha! Might be because its i9505? It gets hot if I'm using it while charging though, does your get to those temps just on normal usuage? (Browsing, Facebook ect)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
yea my temps Camera- 47C

Phone browsing- 36C

2G for 30 mins- 50C

Charging- 48C

Idle- 32C

Voice Calling- 38C

these are on normal usage... external thermistor...

i'm hoping the update solves this issue. i have i9500, octa core
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
Wow! Must get frustrating... is there a battery drain? A rogue app app maybe?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulkitsachdeva:
Battery gives me 18-20 hours on normal usage.. No rogue app too.. this has been the case since day 1.. bought it some 8 days ago.. should i get it replaced, what do you reckon?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
Hmm seems odd, good battery though! Lasts me like 10-15 hrs normal usuage, I would personally... unless its the norm to overheat that much if its software related? Im not really that knowledgeable on the i9500 tbh buddy
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsndetre:
Mine is heating up easily while browsing facebook (desktop) on H+/3G.

For comparation , my S3 got that hot while tethering over usb to my laptop on which was I playing some online game.

One strange thing, it got warm while playing music ...

Charging the phone and using it will definetly get it hot.

I have to check the following :

- is root related ? (happend to notice unusual battery drains, lately, after rooting my phones)

- is modem related ?

I didn't had time

I9505 here
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
Mate xxuamdd is old firmware ? Which one u have actually ? Hows your 2g internet browsing ? I have after long time usage 45-46 c and than it stopping not going any more only even dropping to 43 sometime on full brightness (not automatic)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
Mdm I'm on, don't use 2g on 3g it'll get warm I'd say around 20c? (Not using temp gun just guessing) but I've been texting and snap chatting for the last hour on wifi and I can nearly feel the warmth (full brightness all power saving options off) it only gets to 45c while charging and using the phone, I'd say about 30-40c while playing games, reading all these posts it seems I'm really lucky with heat issues!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unandroidemas:
I'm using in both ways 3G and WiFi. Hoping the new firmware solve this issue.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
T-mobile says

Okay i just got home from T-mobile.. again so there was a guy.. Advised me to no to sell the phone. He had an other kinda phone and the software update solved the problem. For me it is still unbelievable but ill wait until Friday. After that i have to go to New York so i will not have the chance to replace the phone again..

We have to wait for the update then.. But i do not understand the people who already installed it why do not say stg about it..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tommason1968:
My question is has a device ever stopped working as a result of this overheating, or is it just something you have to get used to. My daughter's want this phone but if it's got problems that cause the device to not work properly, then forget it.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
Working

It Has never stopped working. However it gets hot which is uncomfortable and annoying. I guess your daughter will take a lot of pictures and do records. It does overheat then as well.. Maybe you should wait until the problem will be fixed
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MercuryStar:
It's normal for a modern phone, especially a powerful one like that, to get hot under high CPU load.

Just because it feels hot on your face, doesn't mean it's overheating. The devices are designed to be able to withstand up to a certain temperature, and that temperature will be above the point where it starts feeling hot to the touch.

It's good for the battery for it to remain cool as possible, so yes, if your CPU load is high all the time your battery longevity may be affected, but hey, at least the battery's replaceable.

If the phone was shutting down or throttling due to heat, *that* would be overheating. Feeling warm to the touch isn't necessarily overheating, it's just something that people with powerful phones will need to start getting used to, as it's not a trend that's going to reverse any time soon.

At least the phone doesn't need a fan to keep it cool, like most laptops! If you actually touch a laptop CPU while it's under high load you *will* burn your finger because it'll probably be around 60 degrees C and metal conducts heat quickly. It's just that a laptop has a fan, and it has more/thicker plastic around the body which can insulate you from the heat inside.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Matte56:
I am sorry but i have to go against your answer. I can tell you 60'C still not burn my finger. or the built-in app is working wrong?? Also you are saying it is normal to heat up like that? So why the Galaxy s3 or the iPhone 5 has no issue like that? Also there is the Note 2? I think there are pros as well.. So what you have said it is hardly able to believe it is normal. I think when a phone is uncomfortable to hold in the hand due to its temperature it's not normal. I am respecting you dont misunderstand. Just what you are saying it is not not real im sorry to say that....

Of course the phone does not turn off.. Maybe they put the emergency value over 70'C.. So when my phone went up to 60'C it was still in the normal value.. or i dont know.. But for me and millions of ppl is not comfortable.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste1164:
Not sure of the name but there are apps that search your phone for corrupt mp3 files.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TAT1980:
hey guys, nice to see same problems in i9500 version.

i get my i9505 in germany today and got the heating problem when looking video, or streaming video,

playing games, navigation.

so i thinking it´s a software problem, first version of i9505 are lagging and the screen was freezing, so you have to put out battery.

as i connected wlan, my device installed a little update 77mb but i didn´t checked it, ´cause i was so afraid to have the s4.

the heating problem is on display and it´s really hot,not warm, HOT.

i think we all have to wait for the next update and must hope that the s4 will survive :D

now i have to look, when and where i can get exynos octa without paying 800-1000€

or maybe be waiting on waterproof and use the i9505 till i can get octa :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
This is my battery usage so far.... the phone has not over heated in past 5 hours. Lets hope this was a one time thing. When I charged my phone first time it warmed up like anythint
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xdenwarrior:
Was that in idle mode or something like leaving your phone on at night? Or was that your usage during the day aka messaging whatever. Hopefully, the second one cause otherwise this Big Little tech a failure!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
This was with regular phone and messaging usage and idle time also. Looks promising so far with battery. I haven't seen issues so far while browsing apps or using the phone, but when my fone was initially charging it heated up extremely. I do experience little warming issues when using GPS.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xdenwarrior:
What about web browsing? Using standard browser and chrome? Warms up? or does the battery drain fast?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidBee:
Just wondering, has any of you guys experiencing the heat problem tried any of these steps?

1) switching to 2g-only mode

2) Turning off any new-super-features like airview and gestures

3) Setting the brightness in manual mode instead of automatic

4) whatever you havent done yet :)

Ofcourse my example might not be correct, but anyway, here goes: My GalaxyNexus started heating up right after i flashed a new custom ROM with "the latest kernel, drivers and features", and it did it when running apps or making voice-calls. And another example about an iPhone: My firends iphone started heating up like hell when we were on vacation in another country, but it all came back to normal when we returned back home and the handset has connected to its "home" gsm network.

Please forgive any written mistakes :) English is not my native :)

P.S. On my home GSM operator forums I see users complaining about "heating up" problems with I9505 aswell.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
No heating issues with web browsing.. I use chrome. I dont like the default browser.. No heating issues now with charging. It warms up a little when I turn on the GPS though. Haven't got time yet to watch a long video.. my battery usage so far...
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prodigyX:
I can confirm my Mediserver issue has disappeared, and coincidentally the heating issue is gone too.

I'm on 13hrs 8m battery usage (2h 44m screen on time) with 21% still left - Phone is nice and cold :)

1st-day-setup syndrome?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LiquidBee:
Nice to know :) How does it heat up while playing games or watching videos?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
I watched a movie now and it warms up slightly near the samsung logo on the back panel. It doesn't get hot as it use to be earlier..
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] demlasjr:
So, i9500 it's performing much better than i9505?

Related to the phone warming, I'm currently have the S3 and the mainboard has been replaced because of constant freezing. I can say that the S3 was hot in the first week after the change and now after 2 months it's still warm, si this it's happening on S3 too, with the latest build cpus
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
This thread might clear some doubts on heatups...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2244304
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sys. Developer:
Guys, could it be MicroSD problem that causes the heat? I'm not sure but when I removed it I think the heat is gone, that leads us to "mediaserver" issue, maybe the MicroSD and MediaServer have some issues together?!!

Anyway I gave my S4 to the service center and will check about any problem
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Al Gore:
I got mine, played with it for a bit, put into pocket and it was warm constantly. Turned it off and my leg felt much more comfortable. So it was heating even with screen off.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste1164:
If you had corrupt mp3 files on your sd card that would cause media server issues
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mateenf:
Keep us posted once you get it back from Samsung. Good luck!!!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sys. Developer:
Sure I will, hope to get it today

Thanks :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoneXDA:
How smooth is fullHD video playback and how stuttery the UI is overall on the I9500?

Also, for crying out loud ppl. share some camera samples. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ilabs:
You can find camera samples on this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213853
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] renosj:
Everybody who have overheat problem,try to underclock your CPU (phone has to be rooted, use any free app to underclock to 1.4 or 1.2 Ghz).The power will be still enough for games, but CPU temperature reduces).Try and give us know, you will see!
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calum96:
60c° WILL burn you as that's right around the human pain threshold, the iPhone and galaxy s3 don't have as much processing power or a huge 1080p screen to power either... anything below 45c is acceptable (obviously not for general un-intensive tasks)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsndetre:
I suppose the Power Saving mode does the same thing. Beside, it is not related to cpu only as my I9505 can play flash over wifi and get resonably warm , but it will get hot while doing some basic browsing on hspa+

LE:

After doing some research, it seems like the Snapdragon 600 has built-in LTE and wireless but no CDMA.

I could bet now that what ever chip is handling the CDMA, is the same in I9500 and I9505.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kris7679:
It is stupid than better to buy s3 heh some update will fix it and u even will be dont know which with underclock
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mashaal95:
New Firmware!

Has anyone tried out the new XXUBMEA firmware? It seems to have solved all the other problems! No mention about the overheating issue but can someone please try it out? :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rsndetre:
I just flashed the modem. It is still heating up, but I will test to see how hot can it get now.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tush1114:
Got my phone updated yesterday morning....

Observed the heating issue worked out to some extent, but not completely resolved.

Now you cannot check temp with *#0228# after updating the firmware. May be samsung doesn't want us to know the temp.

I searched over internet and found that corrupted media files could cause the phone to heat up.

So i removed my sd card as i kept all my media files on it. And played some heavy games, I observed that the phone was getting heated but not too much to be uncomfortable.

I used mp3diags software to fix corrupted mp3 songs and it found lots of corrupted songs which i fixed using it.

Later I inserted the sd card and again played games... this time it was comfortable to work with.

But while charging, upto 80% battery, it really gets very hot making it uncomfortable to use.

But beyond 80 to 100%, its just normal as it has never been.

So this update has fixed this issue to some extent but not completely.

just tryout the method i mentioned above, hope this could to get some relief from heating issue.