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[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] podtalje:
Big problem here is how to send it into space with a limited budget.

I have already considered to send it into space with a weather balloon. The phone can take pictures and it also has GPS so it can track height and GPS will be also helpful to find it later after return.

Probably after I will switch to new phone, it will be a good time to do this.

At the moment my only concern is this is allowed and what are the chances that my weather balloon will be hit by a plane.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Reasons Why

1- Battery Life, your phone drain the battery very quickly, i tried many ICS and Jelly Bean roms and all of them the same thing with battery.

2- Phone perfomances, theses rom slowdown your systems.

3- Wifi signal is really poor, i did everything to get my signal strong as GingerBread was, but nothing works.

4- Unstable system, sometimes you have randoms reboots. No Matter what rom you use.

The best rom for this phone is GingerBread(Custom or Stock) until now, cause all those custom of Jelly Bean and Ice Cream, have many bugs.

So think about it before you flash ICS OR Jelly Bean. i have to use [Heimdall][One-Click] to go back, since i go back to GingerBread everything is back to normal.

:D My phone now is rooted, custom recovery and Stock GingerBread 2.3.6 the perfect combination for me now.

REMEMBER THIS JUST ON T959V..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Theraze:
1) Depends on your settings mostly. Some people have gotten >6 days battery out of ICS.

2) Mine is WAY faster than GB. This is in line with most people's results as well.

3) The wifi is actually the same strength. Bars show lower, because GB lied. Change it to dB and you'll see.

4) Your battery is dying. Not ICS/JB fault that you have faulty hardware.

Good that you like GB though. Have fun.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Warrenforfree:
It seems like u have just wake up from a long sleep from the cave my friend.. you cannot justify that some of the ICS and JB roms we have all of the bad

things you have mentioned. i am currently on ICS AOKP which for me the close to stock and stable ICS. i can agree with you about JB which just arrive

in this phone not so long ago on which our great dev's are still looking for solution for some major problem exist..

Its your choice to stay on what you think its good for you and what you think the best choice. Not all of us here may agree with your statement right now

because some of the people here already jumping into JB.. I hope you can search a little more to find out on how to provide a good and stable rom for your

phone rather that whining the bad things you have experience..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] itzik2sh:
I'm on ICS and haven't experienced 1 random reboot in a year, while I had many on GB. Memory management and availability is far superior compares to GB and Wifi strength seems the same. Battery is the same unless you have a dying battery which is possible.

P.S what's your point?

sent from me
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Fluidification:
LOL, i never got any on ICS, but I did on GB and JB, but on JB, I only get one once every month or two, so I don't mind.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] FBis251:
Everyone who says they get crappy battery life needs to spend a week with a rom not installing anything else that didn't come with the phone. It'll be a good experiment. You'll get to see how much random apps drain your phone's battery with so many wakelocks, etc.

Again, if you wanna see your phone get great battery life on ICS/JB, DON'T INSTALL ANY APPS for a week.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] nevkuril:
I wonder if people with bad battery life use GPS. I noticed on ICS that once I use GPS no matter with what program the phone goes unstable and sometimes starts to discharge rapidly. The GPS is flaky at best anyway, once it would start, next time it wouldn't, no real pattern to it and nothing interesting in the logs. I found that after using it it's better to reboot right away to avoid troubles.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AnAznBoy9724:
I don't experience any of the problems you seem to address on Cyanogenmod 9.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] QUIETLYloud:
way-to-go on the discouragement... so sad, then next week you'll be asking why development is slow.

the energy used to create this thread would have been better spent discussing what makes android great (freedom, freedom to choose the rom off your choice) without being biased by disgruntled users.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
I just saying that thoses ics and jellybean customs rom most of them have the problem i wrote before but on T959V cause this is a lowend phone it is just 512mb of ram thats too low for ICS and JellyBean.

Im not saying anything bad about android, because android is and will be the best os for smartphones, all my devices are android.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] getochkn:
Slim JB is like 85MB. the 512MB is no problem for that. And it's fast. Faster than GB ever was.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Theraze:
Except that the issues you listed are just plain wrong. They either aren't true, or are due to something else. As I broke down your reasons points by point earlier, they're either due to bad hardware (your battery, 2 of the reasons you gave), bad software (your programs sucking down the battery and making the hardware worse), GB/Samsung lying (showing more Wifi bars to make you think it has a better signal strength even when the dB is the same), or bad scheduler/governor choices.

And then you present this as truth... note the title you gave it. Reasons why Stay away From.... not Reasons why I Stay away From. Your presentation is either useless... we don't really care why you don't like it for yourself; we're not judging you if you go back to GB... or worse, demotivational for the developers doing the actual work. If you have something useful to share with the class, do it. This doesn't qualify. :) And if you don't want to get judged, you'll do much better if you aren't blaming the developers for your dying battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
I used slim and it was very buggy, battery drain and poor wifi was the main problem.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] getochkn:
Wifi isn't officially working on the latest Slim, so not sure what one you tried. I only managed to get wifi working for 4.2.2 last night, so it wasn't that one, and a lot of the JB rom's released are early stages. My point was that JB runs fine on our phone CPU and limited space.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
You are so wrong , cause since i go back to GB , i dont have none of the problem i write before....... Thats my opinion if you want to use it i dont care.. i just alerting new users....

If im lying why some developers said that still has no found an answer for the poor wifi or simply look most of the ics and jellybean custom rom post and you will find thousand of users describing what i saying...... I also opened a post describing my problems and no one could answered...

I'm not discouraging developers, I am encouraging them to do a better job.

I thanks to all them for the great job that they made...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Theraze:
I have no problems with you presenting your anecdotal experiences.

I have MAJOR issues with you presenting your impressions of what's happening as truth for new users who don't understand that you're causing your own issues. :) This is XDA developers, not XDA noobs. If you don't understand why you're causing your own issues, at a certain point there's nothing we can do to help you understand.

I also have issues with you implying that the unpaid developers suck and should just do better work. But hey, I'll try to leave you with your opinions.

Just please... in the future... try to make it VERY clear that you're presenting your opinions, not anything that other people should actually use to make their decisions.

Your experiences? Not in synch with the people who don't install broken programs or who read OPs and the like. Why? Who knows. But people will hopefully make their own decisions based on their phone and how they use it, not based on a "This is why you, the newbie, should avoid JB/ICS" post.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
i tried slim 4.1.2 , was a bad experience......
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
xtreme you like gingerbread? You should try Froyo. Who knows you might start a movement. Lol
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
No i like most Jelly bean, it s a shame my phone is slow with jellybean....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] pisherthefisher:
You're obviously doing something wrong if gingerbread is smoother than jellybean. Come back when you learn how to flash a rom correctly
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] gregcapps:
I used to have this phone until I upgraded to the s2, and I can tell you from experience there are some fantastically stable ics roms that offer great battery life. I didn't get to use jb much since it was still early stages and not quite ready for daily use before I changed phones. But there is no way that gb is smoother than ics or jb.....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Beastmode:
Lol...just lol

512 is more than enough for Android 5.0!
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] mattoaida:
ICS and JB are awesome on my sgs 4g. It runs just as smooth as s3 that's why I'm selling my s3 tomorow and sticking to my sgs 4g. Thanks to beastmode and other developers.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Cooptx:
I will trade with you xD.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] PuNeTZzZ:
1. Same as GB bat. life to JB if i want to longer my bat life just config. couple of setting like airplane mode etc...

2. hahaha this is the reason why i upgrade my GB to JB cause in my experience of GB apps such as asphalt 7 when i start the apps it goes to home screen then you need to reboot your cp to play "Lag free" apps or let say that you can play the apps (sometimes any apps is just going to home screen when i play longer w/ another apps and switch to new apps)

3. theraze said the reason lol XD

4. Just FC. no reboot/s at all :D

that's my awesome JB rom :D
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Is it enough why so many phones with more 512mb Ram....??

Im not talking about internal space.....is Ram
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] gizmoscoop:
GB was alright, but it has out lived its time, and not the best rom either; more like a stop gap to ICS. Even when compared to Antonx's kernel and GB Basic Twist, its battery life and functionality are no match with Proton ICS kernel + Ultragen rom. And I've tested it myself.

To come out and say GB rom is the best rom for our phone this late showed that you are:

1) Trolling the devs;

2) Have not fully tested these ICS roms and kernels;

3) Just being a plain noob.

You need to remember that this is a developers' forum. There will always be bugs everywhere.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AnAznBoy9724:
No it's not, I have 100+ MB of free RAM on ICS. It just depends on what you have running in the background.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
1) im not trolling devs

2) i tried all kernels available( all kind of combinations)that why i asked about the problem i described but the answer was there are alot people with the problems you said...

3)i have new account but i have years in xda....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
The problem is that you dont have a fluid experience like a 1gb ram phone have. In the t959v you got be always closing apps to avoid slowdowns..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] AnAznBoy9724:
I don't and it still runs smoothly.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Dude, just stop while your behind. How deep do you want to dig yourself into the ignorant hole? Since ICS task management has been handled very well by the OS itself. This is even more true with JB. The system will get rid of the programs it needs to, when it needs to. It can do so with 512 or 2048. It just us able to keep more in memory the larger the memory is. At some point this phone will be left behind but ICS and JB ain't it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Introism:
rughseteffects

Then go get a 1gb ram phone! But I bet that after a year you will come back here, with a new account, saying exactly the same things...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
No because i have one and im very happy with it.....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Im not posting false things, that was my experience.....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
It was your experience based on what? Did you have everything set up the best way? Where you getting wakelocks that drained battery? Did you try different kernels? How about some info instead of opinions. That's really what this is is your opinion. My opinion is different but I can back it up with fact. Try doing the same.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Could you tell me why there are so many users using Heimdall][One-Click] to go back?

Are these great developers who make [Heimdall][One-Click] ignorants ?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
People are using one-clicks to recover their phones from user error. The Devs that made them are far from ignorant. They made a tool for the ignorant however. That really has nothing to do with your post and it's assertion that GB is better than ICS and JB. SO in the future let's stick to your OP.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
I tried many configurations and kernels, build pro files,, none of them gave me what i was looking for. I took tips from many users and always poor wifi and batery drain, since go back i stay the whole day with wifi and data active and i dont have to recharge my phone for a day and no wifi drops.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Here's some ICS battery life that I've gotten when I was using it. Your experience has more to do with the way you had your phone set up then anything else.

TEAM FAH-Q CM9 battery life
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Naddict:
Thread cleaned, lightly...

Here is the deal, this thread is a discussion about proper roms and their specific performance and/or settings, which is fine, let's all try to talk about the issues addressed in the OP as you all do in any other thread - and - let's remember the rules when posting in XDA threads...Be respectful and always try to help others.

To those needing the help, it is best not to retaliate or retort with snarky replies, people are trying to help.

Final warning here, any more deviations will result in infractions and closure of the thread.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Well? Did you look at the battery shot screenie I linked to you? There's a lot of ways to increase performance on this phone. IMO going backwards in OS is not one of them.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] getochkn:
I see your screenshot and raise you my Ultragen one.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
That's some solid battery life there getochkn. I have to admit I've never tried UG. I'm not a big fan of the stock UI. I've only heard good things about it though.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Its this using wifi and data all the time, cause i dont see your wifi stats?

You have a lot time in stand by.

Your stats look like you dont use the phone.... Im a 24/7 user....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] XxxAltaireXxx:
How?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] jamesh0317:
The only reason that I stay with gb or froyo is because of wifi calling. I work in the basement of a building and it has lead lined walls. If I didn't have wifi calling I would not be able to get calls or texts.

Otherwise I prefer ics or gb. I could not tell much difference with speed, stability, or battery between gb, froyo, and ics. It might have been there, but not to such a degree that I noticed. The ics and jb ui is a better experience than gb though.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
This is using data all day long and using exchange services and other wifi and data apps...
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
Look at the screenie I linked you to if you haven't already. I'm only 5 hours shy of what your getting on GB and my screen was on twice as long. lol I'm telling you it's how you had it set up not the OS.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Your screen only but no data or wifi anywhere.... Remember wifi and exchange services combine consume alot.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] airjyp:
but i think i get more freeing ram on ics . sure

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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
That was with data and wifi both on. All syncs active as well. I need my other phone for work this week(bigger screen) but friday night I'll put CM9 back on the 4g, put my SIM in it and post up some screenies on Sun.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
What combination you use? Rom and kernel? Cause i never could pas half day
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
This one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2123139

It's go the older version of Proton kernel but if you flash the newer version of the kernel it should work a tad bit better. If you do try it install Better Battery Stats(free on XDA). If you have bad battery life check that app to see what wakelocks are causing it.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] xtreme2020:
Got it........what about wifi strength any tips ?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] getochkn:
Yes. It's the same. Samsung realized they used crappy wifi hardware in our phone, so in Gingerbread they hack the display so it shows more bars than it should, so it looks like you get a great signal. People seem bars, are happy. They don't delve deeper and check with wifi stats and look at the true dB reading. In ICS/JB, we don't apply the bar hack to our roms, we let it show the bars it truly has. wifi stats show shockingly the same dB reading, meaning it's the same connection, same strength, just doesn't show as many bars.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hechoen:
You'd actually be perfect to test this. It's been discussed a bunch on this forum and tested by a few and verified as true. Samsung made the signal reporting stronger on GB but it's actually the same dBm as on ICS. On ICS people think the wifi is weaker because it's reporting the signal as true. Get this:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.farproc.wifi.analyzer

Take some readings from various spots in your house(or wherever) on GB. Record the dBM. Install ICS. Take the same readings from the same spots. You'll see the actual dBm values are very close to each other.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] turtlepa:
Op, u make no fork in sense
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] m4127440:
The router I use is 100+ feet away. I can't get wifi unless I'm using kd1 or kf2. None of the others work at that distance.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hutson23:
My Rant sorry here it is....

I have been using slim 4.1.2 since V4 came out as my DD.

I get no random reboots or FC's...Its solid as they come ..For me.

It sounds to me like you had a dirty flash or gremlins...

Slim 4.1.2 in my opinion is now one of the best ROMs made for this phone.If GPS worked it would be...that's just me tho..

I was like you at one time .. never happy ,

Always going back to barebones and GB.

Let me say this too about the stupid Wifi ,

Its in the way the OS shows the bars ...

Its been tested by a number of people

Your getting the same signal people,maybe if enough

Of us say it people will believe it but probably not...lol

Now battery life on ICS and JB is not quite as good

As GB in my opinion...but you can get a whole day out

of it with medium phone usage..but it becomes a NON-FACTOR

When you get 2 extra battery's for 20 bucks and a power-skin.

I can go 3 or 4 days without a charge if I wish.

Anyway JB is where its at that's what's being

developed for now because GB is old... lol

I am just happy we have devs for this phone..

They do a fantastic job..Thanks to all you guys!!

And I am glad there not thinking JB and ICS

Won't work for this phone..
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] getochkn:
^^+1 I grabbed two powerskins when they were on sale for the penny. I can go days without charging.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Cooptx:
The powerskin is charging your phone....
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hutson23:
Its a case with a battery inside of it

And was only only a penny plus $6

shipping.Its not a penny anymore tho.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004T47MMM
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Cooptx:
I know, I have two. The battery in the case is charging the battery in your phone. That is why you have to plug it in like a power cord.
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hutson23:
I thought it was solar powered:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Cooptx:
I hope that is sarcasm :sly:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] hutson23:
My attempt to be funny. :banghead:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Cooptx:
Alright. xD I just got really scared for a second. It all good
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] turtlepa:
Then again even bhundven says nothing is as stable as stock, although i agree with fb that the apps.. the damn apps. A new battery works wonders too
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Fluidification:
I have a 2100 mAh battery with a powerskin, by the time I get home every day, I have 100 percent, lol.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] chente88:
I need the themes originals from Xperia U please.
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] Ben Ling:
do you still need them now?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
I can't seem to connect to my router at home. I'm able to connect to another router closer by,but not mine.I've tried changing encryption type from open to wep, to wap. But no luck. Every time it attempts to connect it says authentication problem.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
Try looking at your router logs when the error happens to see why it's not authenticating. Try rebooting your router.

BTW wep and wap are not recommended for authentication...that **** can be cracked by a 12 year old. Use WPA2 personal.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
Tried wep, wap, wap2 personal and restarted the router. How wound I check logs?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
What kind of router is it (make and model)? Is it flashed with 3rd party firmware?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
Netgear wgt624 I v3 i'm not home but I'm pretty sure that's the model #. Firmware updated directly from netgear website. It's weird because I can connect to open router next to my house.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
The instructions are on page 4-6 in your PDF manual.

So what youre gonna want to do is open your logs, clear them, try to connect on your phone, then look at your logs to see if the router even sees the attempt. It should show any errors as well.

What does your phone do when you try to connect?

edit: couple more questions...can anything else connect to your router? Also, your router is also a firewall. When you log in you might try and disabling the firewall feature altogether and try connecting.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
I'm gonna try the logs now, and yes 3 computers are connected wirelessly. Also the phone says connecting...then says authenticating problem. I know my password is correct for sure. I'll check the logs now
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
Okay very weird I cleared the log file on my router. Then I attempted to connect with my phone and it gave me the authentication problem. Yet there isn't a single log file on it through my router. As if the router and phone aren't even reaching. I refreshed multiple times.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
Thats strange. Your router *should* be logging auth issues.

Have you tried forgetting your wifi network on the phone and reconnecting as new? And yourer showing password to make double sure its correct? If it is, the auth issue is probably a security mismatch. Router set for WAP, youre trying to connect with WPA2, etc. Double check your router how auth is set up.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Freaknik:
Double checked all setting and passwords, still no go :(
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
Can your phone connect to other routers/AP's using the same encryption? Or do you know? Possible your keys are corrupt.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dr266:
I was having similar problem with my at&t htc one. I resolved it by enabling RTS/CTS protection in my router. See my post here:

HTC One won't connect to internet using 5ghz wifi