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[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
To all who are complaining about heat..

You do realize the heat is generated mainly from the processor and that the S4 has the exact same one right?

The S4 will have the same amount of heat..

The screen does not look bigger to me and in reality it's only .3" bigger.. It don't think the S4 screen looks nicer. It's cartoon'ish and standard Samsung over saturation..
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] snappjay:
For those of you who are thinking about going S4... check out this thread and remember, locked bootloader!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2249581
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
What made the G Pro so great for work? Security software? If the One doesn't suit my needs after the little 14 day trial, I'll hand it back over for a G Pro. But losing the extra screen real estate really didn't kill it for me.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Side job consists of running a wireless forum and making YouTube videos :).

If you didn't have the LCD density turned down on the Note 2 I don't think you'd really get the full advantage of a 5.5" screen.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
I immediately jumped on the DPI ship as soon as I got it back at launch time. Still, I know the Note 2 has to go at this point. The One and G Pro are amazing devices.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
I agree completely and HTC deserves its time in the spotlight. LG has improved since my last LG phone (Intuition aka Optimus Vue). I have noticed some screen sensitivity issues with the G Pro though.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] MrGriffdude:
Man i used the g pro in the store today and i just want it so much more
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] DaRacerz:
Imo the htc one is a wonderful phone. They absolutely deserve the spotlight for an excellent phone and great reception based on my experience compare to an S3. But at the end of the day it's going home for battery life. If it only had a larger battery or option for double capacity I'd keep it but going to the s4 simply for the ability to put a large battery in it to get me through the day.

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Mark
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] tylerdurdin:
Hope this pays off for you....but the S4 general thread gas some scary comments in it. GPS issues, whch Samsung is notorious for. The screen shows their "black crush" in videos like the Note did. 9 gigs if available storage in a 16 gig model, as well as battery complaints.

HTC sells a nice little portable charger that can fully recharge your device twice.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Fallenhalo:
don't go blind

The HTC One's screen is amazing! in the dark i don't go blind. but in the sun wow so bright!

Go the ONE!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
I'm definitely going to be picking up the One, I'll play with it for a few days and see if I really like it, if not, I'll grab the G Pro. Truly though, the One felt so right in my hand, despite the smaller screen. It just blew my expectations away entirely. The G Pro just has the screen real estate I'm used to, that's all.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
The display is nice but I wish that the screen was just a little bit wider, I feel like it is too narrow.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mpovolo:
Just went through this myself. Like many others here is my perspective. Bought the one for the S4 came out, then returned it for the S4 given all the hype. What I found was this:

-4.2.2 didn't give me anything especially since on exchange with security PIN locking you get no scrolling lock screens, not to mention the Samsung version of this was junk compared to the Nexus 4 stock. So useless value in the latest version of OS

-Once you start using Zoe you will miss it. With the Samsung, you need to choose the mode for pictures before taking the. So if you want to do best face, smiles, remove objects etc you need to pick before hand, which is a dumb implementation. (Perhaps I never learned how to use it properly). On top of that, with burst shots you need to choose the pictures you want right after. Which makes continuous shooting of different things impossible. I need to stop what is happening and say hold on while I look through my pictures to pick the best one. With the HTC, you take your burst with Zoe, then later on, that evening whenever, you go back and you can choose which edit tool to use, best face, remove objects, choose your best pictures etc.

-In addition to the above, the camera reel with auto video creation and sharing of that mp4 is awesome. Unlike others I really did not find any third party app that was similiar, this one just works. Couldn't really care for the HTC add created with Zoe at the end of the video but oh well.

So for me, I sacrifice the high MP camera on the S4 for mainly the last two features above, plus the wide angle, plus the quicker shots. I also find regardless of the smartphone camera, zooming is always bad.

Hope that helps
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] babymatteo:
Gotta love these vs threads...I myself just went through the process of comparing the two phones. I decided the HTC One was a better fit for me. The sexy build and booming speakers were enough to win me over the S4.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gentleman559:
You forgot to mention they put the MT4G camera in the One. Im very disappointed that HTC did this or the phone would be the best phone out hands down. My DNA had an amazing camera and then they go to this one. Very disappointing to say the least.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Yeah the camera on the One is incredibly horrible.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] phewBAR:
Friend from work got a black S4 earlier this week so I've been playing around with his phone alittle.

Couple things Ive noticed.

* The S4 feels "fatter". I know its thinner overall in measurements, but the One with its curved back feels thinner in hand.

* I love the blacks in AMOLED, but the brightness sucks compared to the One. And when we were outside in sunlight It was really hard to see anything

* S4 is better looking in real life than on pictures. And that slim bezel is very sexy.

* I dont know much about Cameras, but the S4 seems to take alot of blurry photos. While the pics that turn out good looks very good alot of them come out blurry. Dont know why, but the whole camera just feels slower than the One.

* Battery wise we both seem to about equal during our workday.

* At the moment TW does have some stutter/lag, but Im sure this will be fixed through updates.

* The speaker in the S4 is pretty good, but not in the same league as "Boomsound"

If HTC hadnt made The One, I would've purchased the S4.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gentleman559:
Well now that there is a developer edition of the S4 coming out with stock android that includes guaranteed updates, an amazing camera and a guaranteed HUGE Dev community so I would say get the S4, but thats just my opinion. Im sure the Stock Rom will be ported to all carrier versions of the S4 soon enough. I really like the One but HTC really pisses me off with that BS camera. They come up with the perfect phone and have always been known for having state of the art cameras on their phones. But the one time it would make the phone perfect they put a 4MP which SERIOUSLY is the worst camera I have seen in a long long time. I feel like they just did this to sell whatever else is coming out next and that pisses me off, so sorry HTC but Im getting rid of the One and Im getting the S4. Looks like Samsung is finally hearing what we have been asking for so I am going with Sammy this time.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
I have both of those phones and am posting from the G Pro... Are you a MP junkie? Cramming all of that on a small sensor doesn't make for a better picture necessarily.

Are you upset with quality or size? Sending these camera phone pictures to print?

I just did a video test and it looks like the hardware stabilization with the One is pretty darn good.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gentleman559:
No Im not a MP junkie. I feel let down with the quality of the images. HTC could have done a way better job is the point I was trying to make, the camera is junk in my opinion. I had a DNA and it had an excellent camera, I had a Note 2 it had an excellent camera, I also had an Iphone 5 it has an excellent camera now I have the One sitting here and the picture quality is horrible, worse than the Galaxy Nexus. Im not necessarily a fan of any particular maker over the other but with HTCs track record they really blew it with this one. I know there are others who feel the same way. It made my choice between the two and obvious one for me thats all.

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How you liking the G Pro? I saw a review on it not long ago. It looks awesome.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
The Optimus G pro proves that megapixels don't matter. The camera on that also sucks. Lol
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
It is pretty good except the screen is a little to sensitive in my opinion.

I'm glad you raised this "issue". I guess this weekend I'll be doing a comparison test.

We'll see how the comparison test comes out. Good thing I've got cargo pockets to carry all 3. :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Let's see how it goes lol I've used all 3 I have the One and the S4 on hand though not all 3
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gentleman559:
LOL. Geez how the hell do you maintain 3 phones. I think I need pointers from you.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Only carry the G Pro usually. Made a deal and gave my wife the One.

GS4... Well I guess my 3 week old daughter can have it cause no one uses it.

I am selling Qi receiver pads for them though :).
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Does the qi pads work for the gs4
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
There are new ones. Still go over the battery, but the wires extend vertically to the prongs over the microsd slot.

No solution for the One makes me a sad Panda.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Squirrel1620:
So I just picked up this one today, at the same time my wife got the s4. Both great devices but you couldn't get either of us to trade ;) bottom line it all comes down to personal taste. She won't let go of the software features and I won't let go of the powerful stereo speakers
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Here's one video test I did. Any suggestions for more comparisons?

[youtube]B4YDV82u8V4[/youtube]
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
I'm loving the video test, that thing is freaking sexy! Definitely can't wait to pick up my One.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] robstunner:
I'm only here because I've seen so much preference in the HTC over the s4 that my mind has decided to give the one a second chance, but I can honestly say this lag issue is overblown. With the new ota I have yet to see any lag. None. I have air gesture and all that unneeded battery sucking garbage turned off if that helps or not.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ratchetjaw:
Also have all three well returning the S4, just doesn't do anything better than either the Htc One or Optimus G Pro. The camera on the One is good for most shots and seems more consistent. "I don't blow up my pics for the sake of blowing them up" the Tv app on that One is loads better than the OG Pro or S4 imho.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] dxwilliams40:
I have the S4 and the One and really like each one for different reasons.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
But wich one do you prefer and why? :D:p
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
Best post on this thread.

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So its wrong to put a 13MP camera on a phone? As far as I know, the Galaxy S4 shoots better picture in well lit conditions. It produce much more details thanks to the extra MP.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
^ Certainly not. It appeared that the main gripe was with the resolution at first. The poster came back and went into more detail.

As far as the video test goes, most sided with the HTC One.

I'll have to take a trip somewhere to do a good picture comparison.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
I'll do a comparison too if you guys want. I have an S4 and HTC one as well.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
Who is most? The One had issues focusing in video mode. And most review I saw online give the S4 the best performer in video as well.

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Thanks. The other guy seems a little bias to me.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Just going by the comments I saw..

The HTC focus can be locked out while I see no option for that on the GS4.

Both devices wanted to refocus due to the water on the windshield. Also the devices are offset slightly so the comparison might not be 100 percent fair.

I did want to rerun everything with the software stabilization turned on for the GS4. You can really see what hardware stabilization does for the One.

Bias? Well I do own both and a handful of other devices. I also owned 4 variants of the GS3 at the same time. Last daily use phone was the Note 2 so if you're suggesting I'm an HTC fanboy you might be off.

"Most" referred to the comments left on threads where the video was posted (various locations) for reference.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] unremarked:
Unless we're talking about a different comparison video, I'm unsure of what you're talking about. The guy, who talks very little regarding his opinion on the phones, but rather about the accessories he's using, his car, and driving around... seems biased to you? On what grounds? Also wWho is most?" Proptip: if you're going to take issue with someone using the word "most," I wouldn't then turn around and use it in the following sentence.

Reviews(GSMarena, for instance) I've read have been split on the topic, or have given the nod to the HTC One due to it's wider field of view and image stabilization.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
Yes we i'm not just talking about this video but posts he has made here and other forums.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ratchetjaw:
If I am the other. I am not biased. Had them all call it like I see it to help others. Could cafe less how anyone spends their money. I am happy at the end of the day:thumbup:
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
This is an HTC forum. What do you expect? People saying that the S4 has a better vid quality? Wont happen here. Who said you were a fanboy? And yes you are bias, forget the S3 and note 2 i'm talking about these 2 devices. I'm not saying that because of this vid but all the posts I have seen from you. Its ok to prefer the One but discrediting because you prefer the One is another.

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No you're not the other lmao
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
It is kind of called my opinion. Believe me I own a Cricket Wireless forum. What are they not getting? The One. Only thing you can do is flash it over.

It would be better if I said the One sucked so I could push GS4 accessories that I have for sale.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ratchetjaw:
Lol okay. I just try to call them like I see them . I even try to go back and edit if my opinion changes so I don't give bad info. :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
That's the feeling I have reading your comments but I may be wrong. And again it wasn't because of that video but I watched your youtube vids when you compare all 3 phones ( Gpro, One, S4) and the posts here that's why I feel like you're being unfair to the S4. You said it yourself, you pretty much haven't used the S4 so you cant really know much about it no?

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I understand. Being bias is kinda ridiculous because it won't change a thing as far as these companies succeeding so I just think it is funny when I see biased posts and opinions. But everybody has the right to have an opinion.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
From what others have said the GS4 pictures will probably be better but I haven't gotten that far yet.

From where they were mounted the audio on the One was worse definitely.

FOV shows the One is wider.

On the speaker test the GS4 is louder.

Qi support for the GS4 exists where as there is none with the One which sucks.

AMOLED rules for black.

Happy yet? :)

Edit: unfortunately I think I've used it enough to feel it is a refresh of the GS3. The lag was disappointing but I've been reading about solutions to fix it.

If only the One had a 5 inch screen like the DNA and QI built in I'd be all up on its nuts lol.

G Pro for life homes!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
Happy yes but not cause of this ;) . Hey, you have your opinion and I gave you mine :D

If the One had a 5 inch screen it would have been amazing
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Opinions are like a holes. We all have one.

Everyone knows the rest. :rolleyes:
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] barondebxl:
Yep. Enjoy your phones.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
You too!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
Just picked up my stealth black One about an hour ago. Rooted, running Clean Rom 2.0 and I'm not looking back. Only thing I miss about my Note 2 is menu/settings button.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
It was posted somewhere that with the appropriate kernel, a dev might be able to get the HTC One logo to function as another button. Menu would be nice!

If only all Android devices could make a few things standard... The buttons... Location of them (have a difficult time getting use to the G Pro) and off the top of my head MicroUSB port (location and whether or not the rounded side faces up or down!)

Enjoy your One!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Rado_vr6:
I'm still getting used to the smaller sized screen. When I held both the G Pro and the One at the store before making my final decision, I thought about the extra screen real estate. Doesn't bother me much as I don't need to change the DPI since everything looks great as is. I'm so used to AMOLED screens though, so some of the colors look wrong to me. Just the eyes adjusting I suppose. Either way, I'm really happy with the purchase.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] sgtmedeiros:
This is already in existence with bullet proof kernel.

It's called logo2menu
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] starxgamingx:
Look and feel of the HTC one makes it much better than the s4 to me. My buddy had the s4 and swapped it in under a week. I think it's only better if you enjoy the gimmicky features.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Squirrel1620:
I took sample shots in very low light indoors with my one, and again with my wife's s4. I messed with the settings to get each as bright as possible, needless to say, the one gave decent photos while the s4 looked like it was pitch black in the room
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Now take a shot where it matters like where there's light. Then see what looks bad.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
I wouldn't say any of the pictures look bad. One might be better than the other.

There's always a bigger fish. I'll be doing a DSLR vs GS4 comparison next. J/J

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Time to add more fuel to the fire...

[YOUTUBE]Pk99rnk7yrY[/YOUTUBE]

When we switch to normal lighting and are viewing a black screen... I already know the HTC One will have a lot of light leaking vs the solid black AMOLED screen.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Squirrel1620:
Indoor night shot is a common occurance in my house with my 1yr old.

If I flip though my gallery I find most are indoors so the one's camera works better for ME
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Yes because ambled blacks are pixels that are off
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
My daughter is 3.5 weeks. I took a shot last night when my wife and her passed out face to face.

Yes this is how AMOLED screens work.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
I'm just saying night mode on the s4 isn't that bad.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chrisngrod:
Edited for controlled test.

Now we're looking at night modes. This is controlled by the software. It's not that the GS4 and Opt G Pro don't physically have the ability to do what the One does for the most part. Their night mode just isn't the same.

The hardware image stabilization would most likely be a factor as it is with DSLR camera lenses.

G Pro

GS4

One

Posted from 3 cool devices.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] encrypshun:
This is exactly the reason I will be getting the HTC One, I have a newborn on the way in another 18 weeks and considering I will keep this phone for at least 2 years, having a good point and shoot that takes great indoor / low-light shots has suddenly become paramount to me. Granted I prefer the over-saturated display on the GS4 and the colorful TW UI, the fast, wide-angled camera with fantastic low-light camera have sealed the deal for me.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Squirrel1620:
Congrats on the little one.

Here's a night shot (no sunlight) and only the kitchen light on so the rest of the house is dark. Can't believe how bright it looks. Keep in mind it may be out of focus a bit, he's a mover!

Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] encrypshun:
Thank you.

That's a wicked photo and he's very cute with that bandana. What is it about becoming a parent, we suddenly start noticing kids more and more :)

As for the HTC, if you only had the one light on, then the picture is remarkable to say the least. I was very disappointed with some of the earlier photos in the thread being very grainy and extremely noisy but as the pages progressed, the image quality of the samples started to get better, indicating that people had started installing the updates released by HTC improving the photo quality.

But your's are in a different league, are you using any post photo processing on your PC other than resizing?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Squirrel1620:
Nope that's straight from my phone. Point and shoot auto mode nothing changed :p

Sent from my Tricked out HTC One
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] encrypshun:
I guess my decision wouldn't be fruitless after all :) - will be getting a black 64 GB unlocked device. Thanks.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] stickbo:
Hmmm well I had an s4 and now the HTC one. As someone else said, I like them both for different reasons. Neither is a clear winner by any stretch. I like both screens equally, the brightness of the one and the contrast of the s4 (both are razor sharp). Battery life is better on the s4, period. Plus having access to the battery and an ad slot go a LONG way. I had the 32g s4 btw in black, and a silver 32g one. I also had a 5200mah Hyperion extended battery for the s4 which was bliss. The software features were very nice. Airview, smart stay, and smart rotation were the ones I used. Multiview is amazing. Call them gimmicks all you want, I would kill for them in sense. They work great. But alas, the lag. The s4 stutters no matter what launcher, animation setting or dev option you change. Tried a couple different ones and they all did it. Yes the HTC one does lag a bit, and has more input lag, but nothing as bad as the s4. My nexus puts both of them to shame really which is sad. The speakers sound better on the HTC, but I don't know if they are louder. Even with beats off( which I prefer on) it sounds like they have about the damn volume output which is just stupid to me. I wish the HTC was much much louder. The s4 is very flimsy, much more so than my s2 was. I actually prefer plastic, but not cheap plastic over a weak frame. The one feels better to me. The camera on the s4 was way better outside, but the one is better inside. A wash I guess. The quality control on the other hand is a joke with HTC. But whatever, not that huge a deal I guess. Touchwiz is as ugly and laggy as ever, but sense with blink feed simply sucks. Thank God for nova on both. Notification light was also better on the s4. But the LAG......

At the end of the day I prefer the HTC one. If not for the terrible lag I would probably like the s4 better, but it is what it is. Being this is the HTC forum im sure you guys think I'm a dumbass, and if the s4 guys read it they would think the same. I still think my nexus 4 at half the price really give both a run for their money. It is far far smoother than both right out of the box, sad really. Please don't take my post as overly negative, I just call it as I see it. I have no loyalty. I have iPhones, ipads, androids of all makes, and even a windows phone. None are perfect. I get that many people only have the resources to get one phone and they overlook many things due to buyers pride. Happens in every area of life from cars to phones to houses. I was just born without that gene.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
If you root the s4 the lag is gone with a custom kernel