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[Xperia Z Accessories] frankie99969:
I have a mixture of chargers and am using the one from the box currently with the dock, however when i used my old 1A charger from my arc it seemed to charge quicker than the 1.5A, i know the dock outputs 1A, anyone knowledgeable know if it helps to have the same current coming from the charger to dock? Can more than 0.5A be lost from the 1.5A when being controlled like this?
[Xperia Z Accessories] make87:
Ordered 2 last week, receive today.

Unfortunately, one of it is faulty and not able to charged even if the blue led light is on . . . . . . . .
[Xperia Z Accessories] droidhd:
Ordered one for friend from OP - it is as described

Ordered also one from dx-box ( http://dx-box.com/desktop-dock-sync-cradle-charger-dk26-for-sony-xperia-z-c6603.html )

It is not as described! First of all it didn't came with 2 USB ports (micro and normal), design is not same, etc. Check the pictures:

I reported this morning to Dx-box (it's been like 12 hours ago), no response from them.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Faelz:
But at least does it charge the phone in a good time?
[Xperia Z Accessories] stevey1987:
How does it charge.. Whats the output?

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Yes does it charge fast? Whats the output

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I saw a guy who have modded a cable for magnetic charging.. But he had changed contacts on the phone...
[Xperia Z Accessories] cynomad:
Got mine yesterday.works fine. The only issue being that the Z fits a bit tightly.
[Xperia Z Accessories] droidhd:
It does charge good, 4-4,5h from 0-100 with Xperia Z charger. Output should be 1A as it is stated on dx-box, but on the one that is on pictures. I sent mail to support, but still no response from them -.-, will send them again. I am not sure for this one what is output power, since there is no declaration on it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
This is the one I just received. It says on it 1A current. Left it on stamina on charger dock, screen off and after 2 hours I was still on 39%. What am I doing wrong? The dock is recognised by XZ.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Teknohtc:
What charger are using? What is the mA/A? Also, try resetting the phone that happened to me and i reset the phone and it charged after! :D
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
If you read carefully both your questions are already answered in my previous post.
[Xperia Z Accessories] kingvortex:
He was obviously asking which charger you have plugged into the dock. This information is not in your post.
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
I'm sorry but I'm upset with the dock. It is the sony original charger.I've also tried usb from my computer and it's just staying on the same charge level, or increasing one percentage point in two hours. Also the funny thing is that once I've taken it off the dock the battery stats don't reset like when you unplug the micro usb charger. It's one continuous curve going down and up respectively.
[Xperia Z Accessories] gstrong:
I picked up one a few weeks ago, good value dock I think. Definitely a tighter fit than the official one, though. I have a Glas.t slim fitted and I had to shave a little off the dock to get the phone to fit (the official dock fits fine)!
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
I've ordered one from sony but had to modify on the first hour i received it... Before is start wearing out my phones back...

There are two spring loaded holders an the dock i removed both of them and a mechanic solution to pull out the charging pins is got a vedge shaped thingy i removed its spring ... i removed the wedge shaped thingy too i don't trust it...

If i keep using it original state it will damage my phones back with time...

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
Is working fine from my alienware m17x-r2 But only when i using the e-SATA powered socket which is a USB power share port. PowerShare ports gives stronger current than the normal usb ports.
[Xperia Z Accessories] cynomad:
It gets better, I am on my. 4th day of usage and it is not as tight any more, no marks or damage on the phone though. I also think it looks better, less bulkier than the original and cost me less than €8
[Xperia Z Accessories] stevey1987:
Hi you said the only problem you have is it fits tight.. What about the charge, does it charge in good time & please provide a link
[Xperia Z Accessories] cynomad:
This is it http://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/e1140...tem=151033725824&ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160

It charges st the same time as out of the dock, have not counted the time but it is around 3-4 hours for a full charge (I charge it overnight when there is approx. 10% battery charge left). I use the original charger connected at the dock.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Hootz:
I have had this dock/charger for about a week and it charges the same speed as with the normal charger. Quite happy so far.

However for those with the Glas.t screen protector on the phone it makes it a very tight fit. I had to shave the edge so that the phone would fit easily.
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
I have the same model as far as I can tell. Mine is not charging at all, it just keeps it stationary. Would the fact that the ones saying it's fine have got less than 10 posts should\ could be fake?

I'm thinking of opening the dock and connecting the wires straight to thepogo pins. Why would you need any circuitry when the sony charger provides 1.5A?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Teknohtc:
could be a defect? :eek:
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
Because is two different charging circuit. And by hard wire it, you could kill your phone.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
Using the Sony charger? Why would it fry the phone?
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
Because the USB port and the two charging pin on the side, is two different circuit inside on the systemboard. The original Sony dock has a circuit inside with a regulator ic.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] SuperTraxer:
Thanks!

Did the same :cowboy:

Agree with you, all these moving parts do not seem trustworthy.
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
It looks they don't care what happens after they sold it...wear out the USB port scratch the back....

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] Xuantocdo:
How long it takes to fully charge?
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
It depends if you got screen on or playing games. Longer standby on the genuine tales less than 60 min.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] Teknohtc:
For $10 you can't complain lol :D
[Xperia Z Accessories] nippit:
[MENTION=1191647]donottouch[/MENTION]

do you have any more pictures of the circuit board inside the dock?

Does any one know the details of the circuit board inside the original Sony dock?

Does any one know the difference between supplying power on the charging ports of micro USB port?

thx
[Xperia Z Accessories] 950505:
how cheap is that :good::good:
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
Here is the pics I took, but no info of the used ic... It's probably a regulator judged by its pin layout...

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] AcoAlex:
I got this one to :D it dose the job quite good for that price :cool:

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z Accessories] vibecatalin:
I've bought both the non oem docks, this one for 10$ and the KIDIGI for 20$, I've tested them in past 2 weeks and I'm absolutely sure that the phone charges more quickly through the microusb port then through both the docks. Actually I've plugged in the 2 Amp charger from my galaxy tab 10.1 and through the microusb port the phones charges like in a hour (from 10-15 %) and in 2 and half or 3 hours through the KIDIGI dock. I've opened both the docks and they have direct connection from the microusb to the pogo pins. My third dock ( made by me, wires directly to the pogo pins ) is acting the same as the two docks.

I'm not saying that I want my phone to charge faster but I'm asking why is it charging through the microusb port faster then through the external pins ?

I've made the tests with current widget and battery mix. In current widget is showing very clearly that with the 2 amp charger the current in the battery is about 1200mA through the microusb port and 700-800mA through the dock ( both, and the one made by me). I have used the same charger ( the samsung 2 A and the sony 1.5 A) with the cable supplied by sony.
[Xperia Z Accessories] dante501:
Well don't u normally put the phone in the dock at night or when u don't really wanna use it? Then should instead 2 hours 3 hours charging not being the issue.
[Xperia Z Accessories] vibecatalin:
Yes I do. Like I said it is not a problem for me , the charging time. I was just wondering why this differences ?
[Xperia Z Accessories] dante501:
Probably the current on those charging plates is lower then on the just USB Port. Like if u hook it up to a laptop. It charges slower.
[Xperia Z Accessories] vibecatalin:
That is what it thought. That Sony has a different circuit with less power on those plates. But why?. Oh well, that's a question for Sony. Thanks anyone who answered me.
[Xperia Z Accessories] cynomad:
UPDATE

Update:things have changed. The dock charges the phone VERY slowly, now. This started happening the 2nd week of usage. If the phone is at ~30% and i leave it overnight (>6 hrs) it does not go beyond 45%. IF the phone is half charged and I put it on dock it charges at a speed of ~5% per hour. It either changed or I had not noticed the 1st week as probably the phone was over >50% when using teh dock
[Xperia Z Accessories] dante501:
I had the same issue just in my case from the first the the original one is very nice. Sadly the generic one didn't even can compete.
[Xperia Z Accessories] liliha:
Just got this dock, really enjoy not having to unplug that annoying cover each time I want to charge. Seems to charge at about the same rate as the USB plug for me, roughly 40% per hour so pretty happy with it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] dante501:
Yes having the dock is nice not just for the charging also for that it will lunch apps u set up to be lunched when connected to the dock.
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
Yes, my first one behaved similarly. I contacted the seller and got sent a second dock and this works properly. Even if it does not have the blue light I can live with it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] ch1lko:
i got this one and works fine. looks like the original and have two springs to hold the phone

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/380657329431
[Xperia Z Accessories] dante501:
Yeah the only difference is the charging pins are already out. They are most of the time the issue they often so lose they they don't push against the charging port on the phone enough and that's why it doesn't charge. They original sony one the charging pins are inside and will come out when the phone it being put in to the charging dock. Those beachte those left and right clips make the pins snap out and press against the phone and charge it. I had the cheap charging port and the pins are the issue because they work with springs in the inside and those springs are just way to loose.
[Xperia Z Accessories] chefnoob:
So I bought a $10 charger and integrated them with my mountek car mount...voila! Instant car dock.

Will update you guys how it goes...
[Xperia Z Accessories] venky716:
What is the charge current u guys get on ur device i get about 500mA-600mA.

Isn't the dock rated 1A ? Then y is the charge rate so low ?

I bought this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/151033725824?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[Xperia Z Accessories] chienline:
Thanks to this thread, I finally decided not to buy this $10 dock, instead I created a $1 dock which I posted here.

I think it will supply safe current since I use Sony stock wall plug :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] noobee1:
hey, doesn't the xperia z ship with a dock? the charging Dock-DK26?

I am planning on buying a xperia z soon, just have to decide on the color. but I read somewhere that it ships with the dock, inside the box that is.
[Xperia Z Accessories] orenxda:
Not always, check out the listed bundle. Can be a screen protector, NFC tags, or the dock.
[Xperia Z Accessories] robcen:
I got 2 of them:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/whol...L36h-LT36i-DK26-C6603-charging/901361137.html

and must admit I'm very happy with these docks, one is on my bedside table for overnights charging and second one I installed in my car.
[Xperia Z Accessories] christianfgs:
Its probably because the docks were designed to charge the phone overnight, not in a quick period.

Lets say you put the phone at the dock at 11PM, if its charging at 1.5 mA, it would finish a full charge by approximately 3AM and still charge until you wake up(probably 8am?). They say overcharging a phone is bad and I think that's why Sony decided to use a lower amperage(perhaps 500-700mA) so that we wont fry our battery.
[Xperia Z Accessories] vhl71:
Just to let you guys know..went to the local Sony store and picked up the Xperia.Z charging dock for $20.. Was on sale..
[Xperia Z Accessories] TorN-d-:
I bought the chinese one on Ebay, cost me like 6-7$

here's what it looks like.

Using an OEM cable and charger it charges almost as fast as without a dock, so im pretty satisfied.

only thing i wanted to do was to loosen up the plastic that holds the phone, so i opened it and bended the fenders that hold it a bit.

you DONT have to do that, i did it because i like a loose hold better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
Let me know and I will try and answer them..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] evilfuel99:
How's IR Blaster? Did you get it to work with your TV? Also Any performance issues Lag etc?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I'm at work so haven't tried that feature.

No apparent lag...the screen is beautiful, but my other phone is the Optimus G so this is not noticeably faster.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Robogar:
One of the things I hate doing is swiping a whole bunch to scroll through length webpages or forums.

Have you used the smart scroll feature to surf any pages? How well does it work? Does away with all the swiping that is normally done while surfing on a smartphone browser?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] snappjay:
Have you tried the NFC? I assume it works in exactly the same way as GS3...?

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Also, could you take pictures of the phone itself? In addition, a picture of the apps that are in the drawer immidiately upon boot?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
Just tried it on a few pages...it seems to work really well...I guess it is based on the angle at which it thinks your eyes are looking at the screen so you can trigger it by tilting the phone. I can scroll up and down an entire page without touching the screen, and stop wherever I want to read something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I'm not a big NFC user and didn't have a GS3, but I just sent a web page from the S4 to my Optimus G and it works the same way I remember.

Unfortunately it started downloading all my apps I have ever installed on my play account as soon as the phone cranked up.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] snappjay:
In my best fake Australian accent...

:cowboy:"What a beauty!":cowboy:

Thanks for the pics!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] silkshocker:
Could you take a pic of the battery vs. the S3's battery? or just the battery of the S4 if you don't own an S3. How's the movies quality on the S4? Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gzrecoil:
LTE speeds? and area you are testing?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
No S3 here...My old phone is the LG Optimus G

The screen is great, movie quality is awesome, HD!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
Best out of 3 is 34699 / 16946 ...Pensacola, FL area. This is in line with the speeds on my old phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] snappjay:
Please perform a 12 ft drop test vs concrete if you don't mind.

:laugh:;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gzrecoil:
Hey bud, I appreciate the quote! I figured it would be the same, but wanted to know anyway :)

How you like it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
Sorry I don't have a ladder handy... :highfive:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
It's definitely nice, the screen is probably it's best feature. My other phone is the LG Optimus G so the S4 is not a big spec jump. It almost feels too light, but I am attributing that to the fact that my OG is a slab of glass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] snappjay:
Could you give us a real world example of the "dual camera" feature? I guess you simply have your face over whatever picture you took with the main shooter? The reviewers are excited about this feature, but I can't figure out any practical example of why this would be useful...

Maybe it's just me:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] TBayTom:
Maybe if you're filming a video and you want to talk about what you are filming? Maybe showing the reaction on your face to whatever it is you are taking a picture of. Video reviewers will like it because they can show their face while recording their review.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I'm definitely with you on that....the only thing I could see it being useful for is capturing your reaction to the picture you are taking...? It actually frames your face in a postage stamp and overlays that on the rear camera picture. I guess they are trying to make the picture taker not feel left out of the picture.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] dgarbs:
Is the bootloader locked? The engadget review seems to suggest that it is...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] :
The one and only example I can think of that would be useful is for Skype, where the person on the other end can see both 1) your face and 2) the subject you are shooting. I think Skype will have to do a major backend overhaul before something like that could actually work...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mickeywdw1254:
Google Wallet

It's a long shot but....could you see if it will let you download and open Google Wallet? I'm pretty sure AT&T still has it blocked and we will have to get root to modify it but figured it is worth checking.

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] :
Okay this is a big one and probably one you won't be able to test out living in Florida... but...

Can you use this thing with WINTER gloves (not thin gloves or "igloves")?? I was THIS close to getting a Lumia just so I could use my phone with my favorite winter gloves. When I saw the hover zoom feature, I got excited for winter gloves usage.

Many thanks if you can pull this off. :good:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
Samsung told them it was...

I can't seem to get into recovery. I hold vol up + home + power and get the little green text "booting recovery" but then the phone boots normally.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
It lets me download and install, but when I open it says not supported.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I don't have any winter gloves with me at work...I do at home...

The hover zoom feature only works with samsung stuff and apps that support it, like the new flipboard that comes on the phone...it activates when anything is about 1/4" from the screen...I tried it with a pen and pencil and it worked..I did see a setting to increase touch sensitivity..
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] joshuadjohnson22:
make sure there isn't a fastbook option in settings. I know the HTC One had issues booting into recovery and that was because in the settings app under power there was a "fastboot" option. See if you can find it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] killer5000:
Built in FM Radio

Dose it have an Built in FM Radio on it?:confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I don't see anything that would indicate that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] :
Could you give us a mini review of the headphones (if any are included) with pictures?

I'm not expecting beats or anything, but I'm wondering if they are typical Samsung headphones.

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] killer5000:
you might have to put some headphones in for it to to get on app to work for it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
They seem nice. I normally use skull candy, and they remind me of them, maybe a little weak on the low end, but I just did a quick listen. Has the volume control/call button. Also comes with 3 different sizes of ear piece
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] desiboi94:
Rooting

Can you root this phone via this method:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2219803 :fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] mattdm:
You expect him to root his brand new phone and void his warranty just so you can know if it works a few days faster?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] jtc276:
How is audio quality from the headphone jack? Is it loud/quiet, decent in quality, etc?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
It is normal. The quality seems very clear.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] joshuadjohnson22:
will it blend?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] iwasaperson:
Can you take a picture of Download Mode (Odin mode)?

On the SGS III it's volume down + home + power, so try that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rsmolen:
I can't take a picture but the text reads as follows:

ODIN MODE

PRODUCT NAME: SGH-I337

CURRENT BINARY: Samsung Official

SYSTEM STATUS: Official

CSB-OEM_CONFIG_LSB: 0x30

WRITE PROTECTION: Enable

Incidentally, I can also boot into recovery by holding volume up when booting - I don't know if that information is useful or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] ogxjason15:
Does it come with the original samsung box? Or does it come with one of those cheap AT&T box? It always amazes me why AT&T does this...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] rsmolen:
Samsung box with AT&T sticker on it. I posted a pic in the pre-order thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] silkshocker:
can you change the LED light from blue to green and etc..?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
There is a setting for the LED, but it only allows you to toggle when it comes on for certain events. I know it does red and blue, the logo for that setting shows red, green, blue. What's the popular app for manipulating LED? Lightflow or something like that?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] fix-this!:
Id like to know if the bootloader is indeed locked?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] bigworm50:
I'm having trouble booting to recovery...I get the green text in the upper left saying booting recovery but then the phone boots normally...Am I doing something wrong?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] silkshocker:
I don't like Lightmanager as it always managed to either crash or gives incorrect LED color.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] fix-this!:
I dunno, you got the at&t model right? You should contact a dev and ask if they need any info off your phone to assist in getting root or a recovery. Ill do the same when i get mine tomorrow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] davidjacobs21:
Does it have a Visa Paywave app on it. i remember a month ago Samsung signed a deal with Visa and they said it would be standard on all thier upcoming phones
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] gordopa1:
No. There does not appear to be any pre-installed NFC payment apps.