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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] armyranger172:
I understand. I had to read tons of threads on how to do this and in the end it seemed like my situation was different than everyone.

So if I were you I would go to an authorized retailer to add a new basic line for your LG flip phone. Get that set up so it just uses you shared minutes (as a side note I just found out they charge a one time $30 fee to add a line, along with the $9.99 a month for the line).

After that I would find a place where you want to upgrade to get your new S4 or whatever phone you are looking at. Tell them you want to transfer your upgrade from one of your unlimited lines to the new basic line. This can also be done on Verizon's website, there was an option to transfer upgrades on there. I just didn't go that route I would have paid $300 out of pocket and they only offered $100 for my old S3. (Target offered $145) You will have to put a data plan on the basic line, but this can be taken back off once you switch it back to the LG flip phone.

Just to let you know I called Verizon yesterday cause my bill seemed high. (it was $214 when normally pay $85. this was due to the $30 add a line fee and the $30 upgrade fee, plus the $9.99 new line charge and the $10 more a month cause I had to switch my minutes to the 700 shared. then plus $50 from a previous bill.) After I got a break down of my bill I asked why both my lines were under contract. The way I looked at it was when I added a basic line with a phone I already had that was keep it month to month and because I had an upgrade on my unlimited line that meant that was month to month. So if I used the upgrade from my unlimited for my basic line then my unlimited line should still be month to month. (hope you followed that). The Rep said that they shouldn't have done that and they should have taken my unlimited away. After reading the forms around here I don't think he know what he was talking about. I didn't push it cause I didn't want to deal with him trying to take my unlimited data. I must have checked my Verizon a million times to make sure it still says unlimited, which it does.

I know the last part is long and I am just kinda rambling, but I do have a new S4 and my bill will be $109 a month. So i'm happy with the end results. If you do try it no matter what story you tell the people you are getting to help you ("the new line is for my mom" or I just want to upgrade without losing my unlimited") make sure you say over and over I don't want to lose my unlimited data.

Again I am sorry for the long response and I hope it helps. I just wanted to tell you everything I went through cause I would hate to see you lose your unlimited trying to do this.

Semper Primus
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SrNiceGuy:
ArmyRanger, you have been a HUGE help and I will thank your last posts after I reply to this post.

I was still a bit unclear about whether or not the added line could receive a transfer upgrade, so I resorted to Google and did a search on transfer upgrade Verizon, which led to MANY posts all over the Internet about transferring upgrades AND NOT losing unlimited data. This led me to this post (which was written three days ago!):

Go to the Droid Life url and search for "How to: Upgrade Phones at Verizon and Keep Unlimited Data" (I'm a "n00b...won't let me post URLs.)

Reading that then led me to contact Verizon, but not before calling Mrs. SrNiceGuy and having her give me the EIN # of the dumb phone.

I then called Verizon [(800) 922-0204] and asked to be transferred to the Sales Department so that I can just add a line. I even demanded that the $35 activation fee was waived (and it was...just gotta be firm.)

Now this is the most important part of my posts: YOU MUST HAVE A DUMB PHONE ALREADY WHEN YOU CALL!! When you add a line AND you bring your own equipment in, you are going to be set up for a month-to-month line!! Meaning that you are automatically upgrade eligible! This means that I did not have to transfer an upgrade, or anything like that. And this is only costing me $9.99 a month. I can get an S4, a Note 3, or any phone I want right now!!!

But just to reiterate: if you have an unlimited data line, or two, or three, then you can add a line, get a dumb phone (get it from Craigslist if you have to for $20 or maybe even free!), upgrade that line ANYWHERE, then swap out phone and then add the dumb phone back on then repeat in two years!! Sounds like its a lot of work, but this is a sweet way for me to have two hot phones for the wife and me. Then in two years, she can have my Note 3 OR keep her Note 2, and I can start all over again....

Army Ranger, thanks again!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] iLuvMudkips:
Wish I had unlimited...

I didn't know that there was a work-around to keep your unlimited and still upgrade your phone with the second line. Foolish I gave up my grandfathered plan and got my S4. I was on 3G speeds before and I'm so happy with the upgrade, but I'm wishing I had unlimited.

I was just eating lunch at Arby's because I forgot to pack my lunch today and I noticed I had full LTE so I ran a speed test. I ended up with 48/16...

If only I could get unlimited data with those speeds. There wouldn't be a reason to have internet at home.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] USAXR6:
Sim card

Just be be accurate did you mean "activate" new phone on unlimited plan or "transfer"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mshawn3:
Unlimited Data! :)

Exactly why I never use the upgrade that comes up on my line, That grandfathered unlimited data is gold! :good:

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I did a search and had zero hits for mobile tether. Has any one done it or is anyone aware of a thread that has a guide on how to do it? Thanks in advance, and I'll keep looking. I'm running S4 i545 Android version 4.3 and Baseband MJ7.

Thanks, Michael S
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rstran:
Go buy foxfi, works great and it's only a couple of bucks. Why struggle?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] equake:
Anyone been successful getting BestBuy to do an Alternate Upgrade? If so, can you post where especially if it was in SoCal?

My 2 cents?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cyrushehe:
What even? I've never had speeds even remotely close to that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TxdoHawk:
Probably a less-trafficked part of the 4G map. I live and work in the northern NJ/NYC areas and I don't get speeds like this either.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gtort:
yup

agreed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] whitesides:
This makes me feel better about my data usage :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
I use roughly 100gb of data each month. I'll keep my unlimited until they prey it out of my hands.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
Oops
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
Alternative upgrade?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Not sure what you mean by alternate upgrade but I assume you mean upgrade and keep unlimited. At Costco in Colorado I got the black Friday deal of 129.00 with 100 mail in rebate and the guy was able to keep my unlimited but I think you have to have a feature phone on your plan to do it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
I figured that's what he meant. I had a basic phone on my plan, used the upgrade on it at best buy for the 50 dollar s4 deal, switched phones (put my old gnex on the S4 and s4 on mine) online through Verizon after, then waited a few days and switched the basic one back and canceled the data plan.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
4-10GB per month on thee phones all with unlimited.

When they kick me off unlimited 4 phones find a new carrier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Geewiz89:
100 GB?

And I thought I was being a badass for my 15GB a month
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 850csi:
Question: is there a place where I can find out the general parameters of what I can do if I buy an unlimited data line off of someone with, say, Nation 450 on there?

Basically, I'm wondering if I can add a second smartphone to the plan (I assume it could share minutes but not data), what if any employer discounts will apply, and if I'd be able to give the second smartphone its own [lesser] data add-on.

I would be BYOD-ing both lines.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nes4r2:
Holy Dookie Verizon allows this? I was worried about my 20gb last month.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] radpp16:
Any recommended VPN to use with unlimited data? Private internet access seems to have the cheapest.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bulvine420:
I work for premium retailer and just received a email saying this loop whole is now being closed by an update to Verizon system. Hope costco can do it still but I think this loop hole is done :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Bummer. Hopefully we get a nexus affordable off contract phone on Verizon soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
If this is rue, good bye Verizon. Hello t-mo to bad there might be no more nexus phones on the future
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bulvine420:
After my contract is up and I can no longer get a discount on a phone I will be leaving Verizon for tapatalk no point of paying high cost of phone and high cost of plan. I swear these big wigs sit around and try to figure out a way to get us to pay full price for phone and plan. When smartphones forst came around plans were cheaper and phones were more not the case anymore. All tho if you just wait and get the latest and greatest phone a year later you will be paying subsidiary price. Look how cheap you can get a note 2 now and it is still an amazing phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
The only way to close the alternate line update is to make data part of the plan and not a feature, alternatively they can make you sign an agreement to keep the feature on the line for the length of the contract, making it de-facto part of the plan.

As long as data is a feature and they don't require part of the contract to maintain that feature, it will work.

You might need to activate the phone on the line and wait a day before you move it. Instead of doing an alternate line upgrade.

I don't worry about it. All my phones have unlimited and I just buy them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bulvine420:
Update on alternate upgrade to keep unlimited! !!!!!

Was just told you can do it but keep the phone on dump line for 1 month then swap to unlimited line. Will cost you $70 bucks more for 1 month then only 10 bucks a month after that but you need your own feature phone to put on there.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
For $70 + 230 (23 Monts of $10/per); I can just buy the phone after it's been out a few months.

I paid $330 for my GS4 and didn't need to jump through hoops.

Only downside is I pay up front.

The advantage to the alternate line is now you have the clandestine phone. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
I have 2 unlimited data lines. I notice they sell on eBay for about 250$. I want to sell one but keep the number. Does anyone know if this is possible? I'm thinking open up another line with 2gb and see if I can transfer numbers between the 2 lines
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Eric214:
I made the swtich to Tmo 4 weeks ago yesterday. They paid off my $270 ETF and i got a Note 3 for zero down and I'm selling my S4 MDK FW on Swappa.com to pay off my Note 3. Tmo is faster then VZW in my area and the coverage is just as good (in Delaware 30 min south of Philly).

I was with VZW for 17 years... and POOF! i was gone. Unlimited data no caps or throttling at all im at 29 days 26gb used no issues. Plus built in wifi calling if in a bad reception area.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cell128:
Im going to double dip. Sell both unlimited lines for about $400-500 and go to t-mo soon have them pay my etf on my 3rd line
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cbaty08:
I've got a question, hope someone here can advise.

My line is an added line on my parent's family account, and I am grandfathered.

They are going to move to a shared data plan, as they hardly use data... but I love data.

A friend told me to phone Verizon, have my line made an admin, and then drop their lines... keeping just my line.

Is this possible?

I'm thinking I might have to jump ship if they want to bring me into a tiered plan. :/

Thanks!

EDIT: I think moving to a friends account via an AOL would be best. Guess I answered that for myself, please ignore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] waaldron:
I can't believe you can buy grandfathered plans that's awesome.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Maximinus I:
You should be fine were you are. As far as I know as long as your line is not upgraded you still keep unlimited. It's individual lines not full accounts that matter.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
^ what he said. As long as your line isn't upgraded or plan changed you will keep it. My grandma and I share minutes and she got a smart phone and only could do tiered, my line is still unlimited.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Blazer0981:
I couldn't function any other way.

200+GB/month and I've never heard a word from them.

Grandfathered unlimited data ftw!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cbaty08:
Thanks for the reply, guys.

My line is an added line to my parents (old) nationwide plan... and THEY want to move to a shared plan; doesn't that fudge me?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thesoldier:
Definitely glad I still have unlimited, since I went to 4.4 my WiFi causes nonstop freezes requiring a battery pull. Halfway through the month and I'm already at 7gb's. Probably from downloading so many nightlies :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
You should still be fine as long as they only switch their lines to the share plan. I would just go with them and make sure the Verizon assistant knows you want your line to remain untouched.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
SAme here. The only way I'm giving up my unlimited is if they force me. I don't mind paying outright or craigslisting for a phone since I use up to 90 gigs a month. One employee at a verizon store asked if he could take a pic of my data usage to show his brother who also uses a lot of data. I get a kick out of their faces when they see the usage. If verizon ever forces me out of unlimited, i'm going to t-mobile.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] open1your1eyes0:
Wow! I don't think I've ever seen anything like that before.

I assume you don't purchase home internet service? ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] andross77:
good guess but nope. i've only videocalled a handful of times ever.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
I think he has created his own sub ISP ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] andross77:
i do not :) Saying good bye to Comcast was one of the best feelings ever! :)

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I just want to say though that it's proof that Verizon unlimited is TRULY unlimited. I was never throttled even after i pushed past 400gb. Never emailed/texted/called for a warning. That's why I very much disagree when people value an unlimited Verizon line at just $300. I've saved more than that dropping Comcast + I have internet basically everywhere.

I know this PROBABLY won't last forever, but if Verizon never forces unlimited people off unlimited plans, i will NEVER voluntarily do so. Of course unless someone comes out with a cheaper truly unlimited plan with similar coverage/speed as Verizon. Then i'll jump happily :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
No offense, but if the weight of some folks even shifts to a fraction of your use, we all will lose unlimited.

I think they should throttle after a certain amount, but they like using disproportionately excessive data use as an excuse.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jpen:
So I know you said nothing to do with porn.....but I am still going to guess porn. Maybe that hint was just a lie to throw us off. If so well done my good sir! Well done!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SCDroid:
They definitely should throttle after a certain amount. Those GBs used are ridiculous. I average more than anyone I know and my 18 month average is 2.7gb with a high of 3.6. And yes i'm still on unlimited.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
I average 7.5gb per month and thought I was highish.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] andross77:
Ok since apparently no one here is a gamer, i'll give you the answer: Steam games. I build a computer from Newegg in November and in December i installed Steam and redownloaded all the games i own. Lots of games are 20gb+. So over my Verizon phone i downloaded 400gb of steam games. Only reason next month was over 200gb was because after i downloaded all of them, my hard drive failed (even though it was a Wester Digital Caviar Black....)

So i had to redownload but luckily got to use wife for half of it.

Now that i'm not doing that we still use aruond 30-40gb a month watching Netflix, playing computer games, playing PS3 games, downloading android/ios games like NOVA 3 that are 2gb each, listening to Pandora, watching Hulu+. We don't watch porn, torrent, videochat. Despite what you might guess we both work full time outside the home and are gone half the evenings in a week.

Anywho, unlimited should be unlimited. We pay for our cell phone data plan + an extra $30 unlimited mobile hotspot so Verizon is getting their money. We are not stealing, just maximizing. And we don't pay Comcast for internet or tv since we don't have cable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Brodrick:
Indirect Verizon rep here, another way you can keep your unlimited data is if you have another phone on the account with an eligible upgrade you can always upgrade that phone and after the process turn right back around and do an 'equipment swap.' You put the original phone back on the line you just upgraded and put the new phone on your line and nothing will change as far as your actual plan. I have plenty of soldiers that come to us wanting to get new Verizon phones and wanting to keep their old plans, this is the only 100% way to do it without having to pay full retail that I do pretty often.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rushless:
I'm a gamer. That hurt ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zetachi:
LO I'm a gamer too and a real gamer wouldn't try and game on a wireless phone connection :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ThugosaurusRex:
True that
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] andross77:
But my ping is 40ms and my download is 25-30mb and upload around 15mb. With Comcast I was about the same ping but slower upload/download.

My KD ratio is still FINE for Black Ops 2 :) No i'm not a Professional Tournament player but for gaming as a hobby it's more than enough :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arcanexvi:
Honestly I think that the rollouts of higher speed wireless will come faster than many of the rollouts of wired equivalents soon. Infrastructure rollouts to get fiber into major cities (chicago, new york, la, etc) will be just too expensive for many companies to want to deal with. This is why uverse operates on copper by the time it gets into your home. This is why google fiber is going into small/med size areas or areas that already have a large fiber base laid that they can take advantage of. You'll see small antennas (less than a foot high/wide) get mounted to gutters/roofs and wireless bandwidth hit a switch/router in your home much like clearwire tried to do just a little too early (and they hopped on the wrong tech. Had they done LTE they might actually still be around in some reasonable fashion). It's much easier to run high density fiber to a tower and wirelessly distribute it than run hard line fiber all over the place. Anyway. This is obviously well off topic but I thought I'd shed a little light on where i think things are headed since people are complaining about wireless latency and 10ms @ the consumer end is basically negligible... Gamers included ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hamburgerman:
Just got my S4 and I managed to retain my unlimited data. If you are on a family plan you can upgrade a phone with 2gb data plan and swap sim cards after activation of the line.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arcanexvi:
You could have just used the other line's upgrade and selected the option to not change your plan during checkout... You can do this online or over the phone with the rep and in store.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hamburgerman:
I did upgrade the other line and kept the upgraded phones 2gb data plan. Then activated it and then swap sims.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arcanexvi:
My point is you don't have to try to trick their system to accomplish this feat. There's a tool in their system and the online ordering system that will allow you to use another line's upgrade for your own. It has the same effect as what you're describing. It'll also let you add features like insurance/etc without messing around by calling later to do so since you're doing a SIM swap. Sometimes the sales people don't like to admit that they can do this because it screws with their commission iirc. Others just don't know or realize as they're not supposed to "offer" it but it's there if you ask in person.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
So we have two smartphones with unlimited, one smartphone with the 4gb/$30 deal they had going around for like a month, and one dumb phone with 1440 minutes/unlimited text on our family plan. What would be the best course of action to upgrading the thee smartphones and one dumb phone to newer models? Would we be able to keep our two unlimited lines?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
90Gigs, we all bow in your presence.......... :highfive:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Lmao
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sushi-gee:
I have unlimited data on an expired contract, but don't really need it with free wifi everywhere. I figure I could sell the plan on ebay or start using the phone as a router.

Being that they are trying to get people off these plans, has anybody heard of Verizon customizing a plan on an individual level? For example, if a customer wanted to get a better price on their plan in exchange for ending their unlimited data plan, will they ever make a custom plan with the customer?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
I don't think so
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mizamori:
I joined a family plan with my dad like 2 days before they cut off unlimited data. I got a Samsung Droid Charge (wanted 4g and it was better than the thunderbolt).

After suffering with the charge for over 2.5 years I was looking to upgrade (keeping unlimited ofc) So I did my taxes asap and bought an S4 (32gb) off amazon. It conveniently arrived on my birthday last week and i have been loving every minute.

Its faster(cpu and data), brighter, bigger and even lasts longer than my old phone. $700 well spent.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
You probably could have waited one more month for the S5 but the S4 still is a bad ass phone. I have one myself. Just wish I would have gotten the DEV phone though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TxdoHawk:
I can't imagine them doing this. The new data promos are a good indicator of what Verizon thinks is a competitive price.:eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DBak451:
I still have my unlimited data plan and am in contract 'til June. Hoping they don't boot me off that plan once I'm out of contract.

I don't see why they can't just make their data plans rollover, in a sense. Since most people aren't even using much data a month, yet are paying for it regardless, wouldn't it make sense to allow the remainder of unused monthly data transfer over to the next month and so on? Maybe have it reset every two years or something. That way, people like me, who don't use all that much data regularly but, occasionally will tether and use a fair amount in a short time frame, won't be paranoid about having data caps as they'll be able to build a buffer.

It just seems so stupid the ways they're dealing with this situation, but then again that seems to be the case with greedy companies that get too big, They do whatever they feel like because they know most people will put up with their crap simply because of the quality of their service. Oh well, whoever is lucky enough to still have unlimited, let's hope it lasts.