yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I don't know which of those 2 are newer. But I do know all the American htc ones have the camera update already. You have the one that improves hdr.
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
This is not true ...the update ends in .12 you can tell if you have it by camera app check the version ..
[One (M7) General] WolfDale7:
I thought rovex was clear with his description of the software numbers on the 3rd page, and seeing as how you had quoted him earlier, I'm sure you read his post.

You're inquiring about 1.29.1540.3 and 1.29.401.12:

1.29 (base model). XXX(X). 3(or 12) (revision number)

Since 12>3, 1.29.xxx.12 is newer than 1.29.xxxx.3

By extension, the newer software # improves on picture quality. Therefore, it would be considered, "the best".

I understand some may be confused by the .3 (is it .03, or is it.30), but in this case, I really do think that HTC means .03... So yep, .12 is > than .3 but not newer than .30

I understand your question, but this depends on your carrier. If you've got the dev edition of the phone, you get pushed updates from HTC. Do I know whether devs have this update? Nope. I have a Bell branded HTC phone, so can only confirm whether this update has come to Bell (it hasn't), but your carrier's situation might differ.

Hope that cleared things up some more and didn't add to the confusion.
[One (M7) General] murady:
Thank you very much ,,, but are there any update coming for this version like 1.29.401.12 or higher? Or no !

I hope there update ,,, ,
[One (M7) General] WolfDale7:
Really depends who your provider is and whether they usually push out ota updates.

I'm assuming yes. HTC will definitely be pushing updates for the One at least for another year.

Will your specific unit get an update? Only time will tell as I have no idea :s, sorry.

Who is your carrier? Do you have the dev edition?
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
1.26.502.10 here on ATT 64gb
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I'm going by the androidcentral podcast. They said HTC sent out an email saying the American versions already have the update.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
I think that was the first camera update that fixed the initial camera quality issues. This may be another update. Not sure, but it looks that way.

Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
[One (M7) General] cbadk:
I found this video...(dont know if anyone posted it...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8u-HPRDMZY

But is it really that good an update?
[One (M7) General] murady:
Yes , iam bought htc one developer edition unlocked from htc website and the software number is 1.29.1540.3 can l receive any updates or 1.29.401.12 or ,, 13 or not ?
[One (M7) General] WolfDale7:
You'd want to check with someone else who as the dev edition as well. I can't speak for you as I'm with Bell, but I'm guessing you'll be getting updates soon enough...
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
They were talking about this one.
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
They where wrong those that have .12 update have a different version of the camera app forget the number but we do not have that update yet
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I dont think so, the camera app version number may be regionally different anyway. I imagine if there was an update the american ones the Dev edition would have it by now.
[One (M7) General] ipguy:
I'm on 1.29.841.2, Telstra AU and have no idea if I should expect an update
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Maybe this has been posted but anyho it´s a pretty good comparasion of the cam before and after the update:

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/30/htc-one-camera-after-update
[One (M7) General] ipguy:
I'm not as concerned about the camera update, my one takes awesome pics I'm really after the capacitive button sensitivity fix
[One (M7) General] 008325:
is it possible to install apk (non-root) ? .

i just notice my phone has not focus correctly when object are infinite.

Can anyone post a new camera apk ?
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
Not that simple
[One (M7) General] davedigerati:
which camera do you have?

I'm wondering if the Dev Ed. really has the most current camera or not as some are saying, can anyone with a .12 or .13 please go into their Settings>Apps>All>Camera and tell us what version number it is?

My 1.29.1540.3 purchased 4/5 is using the 5.0.569008

Thanks:confused:
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Yes it is latest. We have .2
[One (M7) General] ryanp1983:
I think this has been answered so many times now.

The 1.29 is the firmware version so if you have that you have the latest firmware. The other numbers dictate things like carrier and region.

Calm down.
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
Not true .12 and .13 are different base also camera on new update is 5.0.582172 we are on 5.0.569008
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Yes that's true, I got 5.0.569008
[One (M7) General] rovex:
I can believe there is still confusion about this.

As has been said many times 1.29 is the base. Its has general improvements to the camera over all 1.28 or earlier versions, but that alone doesnt mean you have the best camera, it just means its better than the older ones.

The middle string, such as .401, is the region or carrier and for the most part has little effect on version numbers for apps and updates. Its more about carrier mods and bloat.

The last string such as .3 or .12, .13 is the revision. .12 and .13 have the latest camera, its thought .11 does as well, but .3 doesnt.

The developer edition is a device needed because of US carrier locks and restrictions, its not the 'best' or 'top' model and will not be the most up to date, the generic International model will be.
[One (M7) General] murady:
What are you mean ? Are there any update for htc one developer edition soon to ,, .12 or .13 ,, or not available for this version ???
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Ive no idea what the latest dev edition version is, but no it wont be the one that gets the updates first.
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
I received a Dev Edition phone a couple weeks ago, the sw version is 1.29.xx.3 , and every time I have checked for updates it says there haven't been any.

So DE is on .3
[One (M7) General] davedigerati:
Thank you Gemini, that's what I suspected. So here's the real question, can you (or anyone else reading) please post up the 569008 camera for those of us on the old base to try? I'm thinking/hoping it was just tweaks to algorithms in the camera itself, nothing in the base sw. Does anyone with experience with prior HTC cameras know if it there are libraries/dependencies that would also need to be uploaded?

I'm trying to avoid custom ROMs yet since if this camera doesn't improve it might be going back- it was my main reason for selecting the phone after all.

Thanks
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
i think someone tried but framework was different I think...I downloaded a .12 rom today and the difference in the camera is huge wow..take a pic b4 updating then after I can't believe how much better the color is
[One (M7) General] davedigerati:
>sigh> alright thanks for saving me the time- I guess it's the backup/wipe/flash/re-setup game tonight after all! ;)

Too bad HTC doesn't see fit to make their current firmware an available download or OTA for their freaking DEVELOPER PHONE grrrrrrrr:mad:
[One (M7) General] murady:
Woow

Are this pictures by camera htc one developer edition ?
[One (M7) General] rovex:
It needs repeating that the Developer phone isnt really anything special, its just a normal HTC one with a pre-unlocked bootloader and some US-centric software mods.
[One (M7) General] murady:
Ok,, lam need answer please from any one have any idea can l update my htc one developer edition to .12 by ota l can waiting no problem ,,,, or must download ROM for this update?
[One (M7) General] rovex:
I think some of the custom ROMs have options that accommodate the Dev edition (its all about the frequency bands and such like), but there is no official OTA yet.
[One (M7) General] murady:
Iam wait you to answer me please
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
you have to download the rom sorry
[One (M7) General] murady:
You mean l can't receive this update or any updates in future by OTA ? So l must download the rom ? Or not ?:crying:

Ok,, what about your device after download this update , is better camera or not change? And where link for rom ?
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
no you will get the ota if u cant wait grab the rom
[One (M7) General] murady:
QUOTE=gemini002;41273885]no you will get the ota if u cant wait grab the rom[/QUOTE]

Oh :laugh: thank you very much,,, no I can wait not problem but it is important that l receive the update

I founded this link what do you think ,, the 1.29.401.12 in this link exactly the sam software from ota or there changes

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2207874

This link
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
Big difference first pic in sets is b4 camera update
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
Interesting : an HTC rep said no OTA updates for the developer edition.

See this post

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=41278313
[One (M7) General] gemini002:
yes no ota only ruu

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why would those with a unlocked boot loader want to wait when they can flash the stock rom I did a dirty flash today its great!!!
[One (M7) General] murady:
Are you have htc one developer edition ? This pictures by it ?

How can l download update ,, or wait to get by ota ? Iam saaaad :crying:

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What about your device are you updated or wait ?

Can I reverse the unlocked bootloader to locked or impossible ?

Finally ,, how and where this update and what sitting for still?
[One (M7) General] desiregeek:
No update for Developers Edition for camera?
[One (M7) General] OllieArmageddon:
Nope, just a SIM Free 32Gb like the rest of ya!

Believe it or not, but these were taken in the UK earlier this week!
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
You can reverse the locked bootloader. Note it will say "re-locked" in HBOOT.

Just one more time for reference, I ordered the dev edition in april, it arrived a couple days later, it came with software 1.29.1540.3 and camera 5.0.569008. There is no SIM in my phone. Checking for updates always produces "no updates". (And it sounds like that will always be the case.) I have not updated it. I am still exploring the stock experience of the actual handset as-shipped before making any changes or even activating cellular service. The only change I have made to the phone was sideloading the xda mobile app with adb.

5.0.569008 is an ok camera. Color accuracy and saturation seems ok. Not too much noise in dark areas of the image. Images look great when viewed on the phone itself, but sharpness seems a little high when viewing on a large screen. Setting sharpness to -1 seems like a good setting to leave in effect all the time. It seems to overexpose highlights a little in HDR mode. Frame rate seems adequate when shooting video in broad daylight, tends to drop below 30fps in low light.

Best thing by far about this camera is zero shutter lag.

Compared to an Evo 4G this camera kicks the *** out of that camera. Hard to believe it was once considered excellent.

If I update the phone later and the camera gets updated in the process I will report back with my observations.
[One (M7) General] murady:
Thank you ....if l want re locked my phone can I receive updates by OTA directly or not?
[One (M7) General] davedigerati:
NxNW I highly recommend rooting and installing a. 12 or higher romantic with the new camera before making a final decision, it really is a big improvement. Fwiw I went to ARHD8.
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
Understood. Not making any "final" pronouncements, actually looking forward to updating. Just taking my time...

Best way to appreciate the improvements is to thoroughly understand the *previous* behavior ; )
[One (M7) General] Matt:
5.0.582172
[One (M7) General] murady:
Are you download update .12 in your developer edition phone can you or not ?

And the camera in developer edition 5.0.569008 can update to 5.0.582172

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Are your phone is developer edition ?
[One (M7) General] schn1tt3r:
I purchased the Developer edition but I don't have it yet. I bought it because it was some $60 more than the unlocked 32GB, but dev edition getting no OTA is making me want to cancel the order and get the 32GB instead... thoughts?

EDIT: Just called them and indeed they said they don't have it in stock. Even though their website does not show it, they are expected to get another batch the 31tst for the Developer edition and this week for 32GB Unlocked. I am now considering just getting the 32GB not because of the time, but because the OTA updates. Not to sound like a jerk, but I expect more costly things to have more advantages than their "cheaper" counterpart. As it is, the only real advantage is the extra space (considering it is easy to root the 32GB).

Am I crazy? Or what is there to gain from the 64GB DEV? The device doesn't even look any different.
[One (M7) General] khriztianjs:
Me too... 2172 HTC one Black 32gb

Enviado desde mi HTC One usando Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] NGO5:
Just updated to latest 1.29 update for Sprint (USA) and the camera version is 5.0.569008
[One (M7) General] gmzshortys:
ive just got the sprint variant

the camera improvement its for all the variants ¡ _ ?¡

or i have to flash the new update
[One (M7) General] skwieradee:
Newbie question - im on three uk already updated to 4.2.2, never get 1.29 update. Does 4.2.2 update included 1.29 or this is something totally different and may still be rolled out or may not? My camera version is:
[One (M7) General] Galactus:
1.29 is based on 4.1.2 so don't worry about it
[Off-topic] Pulse:
I have an original XDA in excellent condition for sale.

It comes with all standard accessories, except is missing the o2 leather case (99p on eBay), the spare stylus, and the Outlook 2002 disc.

The phone has one slight scratch on the screen, which can only be seen in very bright light and from an angle.

It also has a 0.5mm dot on the back (not major at all, but thought I'd better mention it)

Hardly been used while I've had it, and never taken outside. Since changed to an E200, so dont need the XDA anymore.

It's going for a bargain price of £200, which comes with a 512mb SD card worth £130!!

If you're interested, let me know here, or email me: Pulse@MSMobileNews.com
[Off-topic] Pulse:
Will sell without the SD card for £130. Or offer me something as a trade.
[Off-topic] 85gallon:
What is an xda 1?
[Off-topic] Archer:
Something in a thread that is EIGHT YEARS OLD! ;)

This might help...

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[Off-topic] boborone:
[YOUTUBE]2Svwm_k9hYk[/YOUTUBE]
[Off-topic] jaszek:
XDA is the phone after which this damn forum is named after. Also, couldn't he use ****ing google?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redzone321:
I am running a bell HTC one rooted w twrp installed.

I have noticed that YouTube and other internet video either on WiFi or data has quite a bit of delay to the video vs the audio.

It's Very distracting as the audio is prob 1/2 sec ahead of the video.

Beats on or off doesn't change anything

power saver on and off doesn't matter either

else have this problem.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] orangekid:
Moved out of Sprint One forum into HTC One Q&A
[Galaxy Note II General] Unsecuredloans2222:
Hello everyone i ma andrew Hadson. Good to see you all.
[Galaxy Note II General] Simone:
Hi,

I'm Simone.

Welcome to XDA and the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 forum.
[Galaxy Note II General] Ivyy111:
Omg, first read the rules... [MENTION=225651]op[/MENTION] please delete this
[Galaxy Note II General] Haplok:
Hi,

I'm Greg, nice to meet you All.

I'm a new Note 2 user. Far from using it to it fullest though. Looking forward to unleash the potential of this beast, but not in a hurry to do so. Will probably run unrooted stock at least half a year or so. Though changing the silly DPI IS very tempting....
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] snappjay:
Hey guys. I've been tossing an idea around in my head for getting my hands on a One Developer Edition (currently sold out on HTC.com).

I have an upgrade ready on May 1, 2013... just a week away. I want to stick with AT&T and their LTE network.

My idea is to get a brand new phone using my upgrade and turn around and sell it on ebay as a brand new, never used phone and put THAT money toward a developer ed. One.

- I assume the best money I can get with my upgrade is with the 16 GB iPhone 5. Most recent sell of a brand new i5 was $515.00. Would you guys assume this is the best money I can get from my upgrade?

Total comes to -$200 (iPhone5), +$515 (sell on ebay), -$650.00 (HTC One dev.) = $335.00 HTC One Dev.

Does this sound like a good plan? Would you guys know of a better way to turn my upgrade in to cash
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ryan141:
I'm in the same boat.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
Buying and flipping an IPhone 5 will bring you the best return. Especially if you can get it unlocked before you sell it. That said, if you're burning an upgrade anyway, and sticking with AT&T, I'd suggest just buying the subsidized 64 gb. It's the same phone as the development edition and will cost the same without the hassle of dealing with eBay.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] snappjay:
Hey thanks for the info gunnyman. I had no idea the AT&T 64 gb was bootloader unlocked and unbranded. Cool.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
It's not. But unlocking on HTC dev and rooting and romming gives you the same end result.

If the bootloader was not unlock able on the att phone I could see spending the money on the dev phone.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] snappjay:
I guess I can use my car keys to scratch off that AT&T logo ;) kidding...

I'll keep the idea in mind though. It looks like the 64 gb would be 50 bucks cheaper than going with my plan above. My only thought is that HTC might push updates quicker through their own channels than AT&T, if I wanted to stay with the factory image for some reason.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ryan141:
I just went to htctradeup.com and it says I can get $150.00 back for an old iPhone 4 32 gb. So next week I'll order the 64gb HTC One as an upgrade for 299.00 and then I'll get $150 back from HTC!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] shook187:
Guys can you tell me if this is worth the trouble. I recently signed up for AT&T service along with this fine phone that has zero flaws. But now I find myself interested in the developers edition. I know I could sell this phone on ebay for the same price I could get the developers edition but my question is, is really worth the hassle? My phone is already unlocked and I know its not the same as having S-off which I believe is the only difference between the AT&T version and developers edition. So is that phone really worth all the hassle?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
The development edition is not s-off.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] shook187:
So what the heck the difference?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
Att logo on the back and bloatware
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] beforedenied:
No point. And btw you can get more than that probably for the iPhone 5, I just sold one used for $515.

The dev is the same as the AT&T version plus we have unlocked bootloader and rooting method for our version of the One. Save you're money and spend $200 - $300 on a nice AT&T one.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
The bloatware is easily disabled and the logo's placement and size it not bad at all..

The downside to the dev edition is that for any warranty issues you have to go through HTC and they flat out suck!

I had an international One X that needed replacement and I had to mail it to HTC. They had it 2 weeks and mailed it back with the exact same problem. Sent it to them again and they finally sent a replacement device. Total time was over 4 weeks to simply get a replacement.

Never again!

I paid full price for my AT&T One and will never buy another device again that needs to be sent directly to HTC. At least with AT&T they send you a replacement right away and you mail back the defective one after you get the replacement in the mail.

If you are okay dealing with HTC and their horrible replacement / exchange policy then the dev version is fine. Beware they will NOT send you a replacement 1st and wait for you to return the defective device.

With HTC you mail it to them. They inspect it and see if they can repair it. If they can it gets repaired and returned to you. If they can't repair it then they send you a replacement. This process can take anywhere from a week (if you are lucky) but average turn around time in my experience is 2 to 3 weeks.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] colts187:
The regular 32gb HTC One for AT&T is going for about $630 on eBay new. Prob more than u would get for a crappy boring iphone
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
Make a short list of things you wish the ZL had, in order to make your perfect vision of the ZL. I'm interested to see what people come up with and what is the most common.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CLB-NL:
Screen a la HTC One, with perfect viewingangles

32GB or 64GB internal storage, very nice when installing large applications / games

Bigger battery so it will come to the level of the HTC One and the Galaxy S IV

Software-options: DPI of the softbuttons, colors of the (notification)bar out of the box
[Sony Xperia ZL] augie7107:
It is perfect as far as I'm concerned.

The only thing I miss is the stock browser which can be installed if rooted.
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
What's wrong with the browser supplied by Sony?
[Sony Xperia ZL] augie7107:
They only supply Chrome which I'm not enamored with. I feel the android stock browser suits my taste better. I think stock is faster. I'm also more comfortable with it since I have essentially used this since I came over to Android on the Sony Ericsson X10. Also, all my previous devices came with stock browser and some had Chrome as an option. This device only comes loaded with Chrome.
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
Has anyone ported the stock browser yet?
[Sony Xperia ZL] CLB-NL:
Yes, just use the search!
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
Calm down, this is General discussion.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CLB-NL:
I am calm, but what's the problem to search before asking;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213079
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
What's the problem to have a discussion?
[Sony Xperia ZL] CLB-NL:
That it's lazy and with more than 2500 post you know how it works here...?

And I gave you a link, yeah thanks, happy community :s
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
I didn't ask for the link, but thanks for making an argument.
[Sony Xperia ZL] ironheart5:
perfect

the design is perfect:good:
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
I think so too! Is there anything in the software maybe that you wish was different or maybe included?
[Sony Xperia ZL] CLB-NL:
Stock Android browser FTW instead or next to Chrome! DPI settings of the softbuttons, color of the softbuttons that you can change...
[Sony Xperia ZL] Dpk1:
Having used the stock browser for a week, I think its not so great after all! Facebook images appear blurred (cramped in size), no full access to many websites like official sony support (can't login). No such issues with chrome, plus multi tab handling is best, but I miss the flash support, fullscreen & quick controls (of the stock browser) on chrome. Perhaps no browser is complete, so, I have to use both!

All that said, I would like sony to improve its camera software (mainly the image post processing) so as to have better quality (especially during day). I believe the camera sensor used (in Z/ZL) is top notch at the moment, but its performance limited by sony's software implementation (too much noise blur). Oh, n btw, the screen is stunning imo (best I've used so far) :good:!
[Sony Xperia ZL] ryude:
Thanks for the replies everyone, this is very interesting and it helps me decide what I would want to work on for a ROM.