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[One (M7) General] tom369:
The problem with "replacement part" is that there's no other replacement part like this, AFAIK. And on the other hand I really can't imagine HTC replacing this microphone with the "usual", non-HAAC one, because this is one of the key features of the HTC One.

And another thing I can't imagine is 2 variants of the One circulating: one with the HAAC and the other without ;).

So they have to come to an agreement. Or if Nokia is wrong they just have to prove it.

But in general I don't believe HTC could be so stupid to sell the phone with this part if they weren't allowed to. We should wait for a more detailed HTC statement.
[One (M7) General] nigne:
Ja

Skickat från min Galaxy Nexus via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] californiarailroader:
I agree with that.
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
Finnish media is harshly blaming HTC for this. Shell suits with Nokia phones in their pockets are like their national property has been stolen.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Well, alot of talk back and forth about this. For me, a customer on the street: if this means the HTC One is even further delayed it will mean a purchase of another device since mine broke and I have a loaner on limited time. So what would the next best thing to a HTC One be? The SGS4, Sony experia Z? Nexus? Thank´s for advice!
[One (M7) General] procol:
Maybe not. I mean this ban may apply to the component itself too. The holding company of ST Microelectronics is located in Amsterdam which means the ban injunction may take effect on the components which, without this injunction, are supposed to be delivered to HTC from ST Microelectronics. That's why Nokia brought the lawsuit there. HTC would not get the components from STM from now on probably. This means HTC can't manufacture One anymore at least for the time being.
[One (M7) General] tom369:
From their website:

http://www.st.com/web/en/about_st/st_company_overview.html

"ST’s principal wafer fabs are located in Agrate Brianza and Catania (Italy), Crolles, Rousset and Tours (France), and in Singapore. The wafer fabs are complemented by world-class assembly-and-test facilities located in China, Malaysia, Malta, Morocco, the Philippines and Singapore"
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
actually Nokia also attempted something similar regarding snapdragon and power saving tech in germany thankfully HTC said they removed this feature from the One already for those markets

its pretty clear Nokia is aiming at the One, but i guess we can't blame them, they are pretty angry at HTC ever since the 8x ;)

German court dismisses two Nokia patent lawsuits against HTC, one of them over Google Play

last year the One X got apple worried and they initially blocked it in the USA, its happening again with Nokia

Nokia wins German patent injunction against HTC over power-saving technology

HTC sued by Nokia over remote activation of a device using SMS

do you see a pattern here?

this is pathetic trolling from Nokia
[One (M7) General] procol:
When some company tries to sue Apple, they don't do that in China where Foxconn factories are located.

I excerpted the sentence above from Wikipedia. I'm not sure how much the entry is credible, but that's all I got. Anyway, according to the entry, the holding company of STM is located in Amsterdam which means it exist there in point of law.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Nokia's co-developed high-amplitude mics retain 10-month exclusivity, HTC has to look elsewhere

---------- Post added at 12:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 PM ----------

here is HTC response from this article (translated)
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
HTC will have to find an alternative once current shipment run out b/c Nokia have exclusivity until 2014 and the injunction bans STM until then from selling it anywhere in the world, once that deal runs out I'm guessing others can then license it from Nokia by entering in a component deal with STM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22263014

http://www.google.com/patents/US8233637
[One (M7) General] electrash:
Htc One is delayed in netherlends only.
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
according to bbc the ruling bans STM from shipping and supplying HTC the component worldwide
[One (M7) General] electrash:
That i think should not be true. How can somebody ban you to supply some firm with parts.

They can only ban salles to users. As i know.

In this case HTC isnt guilty. STM should tell them they cant sell it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
but the product are already built with the microphone are OK

so no ban or recall since its not HTC's fault
[One (M7) General] Snood:
Because STE is in breach of their contract with Nokia, so Nokia have gone to court to have the terms of the contract enforced. Unfortunately for HTC it puts them in the firing line, a bonus for Nokia.

This is about corporate contract law, not consumer law.

The way it looks, HTC can continue to build phones with the microphone stock they have remaining (probably in the region of hundreds of thousands of units). They will not be able to buy any more of these microphones. The only way to continue to use them would be for a licensing deal to be made between HTC and Nokia (as the IP holder), this would then clear the way for STE to sell to HTC.

I suspect that what will happen is that HTC will replace the component with a regular microphone and just stop claiming they have an awesome microphone. If this happens it will be interesting to see how to know which hardware you have.
[One (M7) General] desiregeek:
Manufacturing can be complicated and very complicated. I came up with a design for a jewelry and the manufacturer liked my idea and made the piece for me. I took 100 pieces from the manufacturer. A few weeks later I found that item also being sold locally and the manufacturer boss told me that my idea was great and he had sent 5000 pieces to Japan. Either you patent the item in every country so you can tell the manufacturer that he can only sell to you which will then piss him off because you are now viewed as a trouble maker which is cutting into his manufacturing business as he has over 800 employees to pay a salary to every month. These days if manufacturers can get an order they usually take it. If you want something that only you can sell you would need a **** load of cash to open up a factory,manufacture the item you need by yourself and patten it in every country out there so no one else can sell it. That would cost an arm and a leg. If you really piss him off then he will cut you off.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Yes but both HTC and Nokia are big companies with huge orders, so I do not think ST will cut any of them.

What will happen is that HTC will replace this part with another one, probably non HDR and life goes on....
[One (M7) General] desiregeek:
Next batch they will probably arrive unmarked lol..
[One (M7) General] aydc:
HTC will find another mic immediately, long before they run out of stock of the current ones. It's a very small issue really.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
In a normal world issues like this wouldn't happen. Upon finding that STM (assumingly inadvertently) offered their technology to another company, Nokia would just say "OK, pay me $X as a license fee per unit and we'll call it good." But just like Apple vs. Samsung, it isn't about money it's about inflicting pain and damage on your competitors. As Hamdir pointed out, HTC and Nokia have a blood feud going because of HTC's entry in the Windows Mobile world which was Nokia's turf. Nokia's going to use the STM issue to inflict as much pain as they can on HTC (via STM). And unlike some of these tussles which are ambiguous this one's pretty black and white. So I'd guess any type of settlement is unlikely and that HTC will have to come up with another microphone to use.

And since the mic technology is patented in the U.S. there’s no doubt Nokia will file for an emergency injunction against HTC with the ITC seeking to bar the importation of the One. In U.S. law there’s a saying “ignorantia legis neminem excusat.” Translated from Latin it’s “ignorance of the law excuses no one.” HTC’s legal department should have verified well in advance that any of the components (theirs or third parties) used in the One didn’t violate any patents or use agreements. So the fact that STM sold them Nokia’s technology won’t allow HTC to claim “victim” status; at least not in the U.S. As someone said earlier, HTC’s contract with STM will hold STM responsible for the impact of this issue but it won’t prevent the ITC from taking action against HTC for using the offending part.

Changing out the mic isn’t as simple as it sounds though. The good news is that the mic chip isn't on the motherboard; it's on the daughter board which minimizes the reengineering work. But HTC's going to have design a new daughter board to accommodate the new mic and then modify all the s/w to account for the change in performance characteristics. A new daughter board may require FCC and CE re-certification. HTC's assembles their phones but components like the mother and daughter board arrive pre-assembled from someone else. So HTC's got to find a new mic, work with a partner to redesign the daughter board, get it in to production, and possibly have to have it re-certified. It's not a fast or trivial exercise.
[One (M7) General] seanicca:
If I remember right when Apple sued Samsung they banned them in the Netherlands first due to Rotterdam bring the main shipping port for Europe, basically stopping distribution to the rest of Europe.

I do know one thing though...........................they ain't getting mine back.
[One (M7) General] zaos:
If STM / HTC is smart, they would have transferred lots of mics to HTC's ownership before the court order was handed down. Just thinking.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
More than likely they will work out a deal to continue using these mics. Judges are pushing parties toward agreements rather than bans and damages. Nokia wants to make money. Not allowing others to use their mic makes them $0. Getting paid on each mic = free money. They don't have to do a thing and they get paid.
[One (M7) General] tom369:
I think the problem might be there's no replacement MIC of this type. And putting a regular microphone instead would be a mess.
[One (M7) General] Pr20:
I understand what you are saying. But for Nokia the choice is making money this way or making HTC lose money/sales/customers/consumer confidence by forcing them to make new HTC ones with new mic. Who knows what they will choose.
[One (M7) General] jrooquach:
does that mean I wont get my htc one? I ordered it 3 days ago but it was suppose to come in two days is ti because of this :crying:
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
It all depends if the store you ordered from had stock etc. For idiots like me who ordered the black one and wernt expecting it until mid may before this issue.....
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
In some circumstances, depending on the amount of reworking, regulatory certification might be sort of grandfathered in, depending on how many changes there are.

It's a severe blow for HTC and like you say, it could mean long delays. A lot depends if the people at the FCC are apple fanbois LOL
[One (M7) General] Electronic Punk:
I am sure HTC has a box or two of these left, it just means for additional orders they have to order elsewhere.

So much drama-mongering in here.
[One (M7) General] Rashkae:
And here in Singapore, the home of ST, the HTC One is in very high demand and always sold out LOL. I would not.be surprised to see them sold via eBay for exorbitant resell prices.

Sent from my gorgeous White Xperia Z
[One (M7) General] rkial:
Does this affect the European stock or is it Global?

Its been delayed in India already.. India is clearly not a priority market for HTC..

more delays in europe would mean even longer waiting time here.
[One (M7) General] jrooquach:
I ordered a silver one at the official htc website
[One (M7) General] KiraYahiroz:
If HTC does have to get a different supplier, will this affect ROM development as there will be two different versions due to mic?
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
My uneducated thought is that HTC will likely just create a kernel that supports both microphones. No reason our devs couldn't do the same thing.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dariolob:
Hey guys :) As the title says,can someone provide me FMRadio.apk from a 4.1.2 deodexed I8190/N/L ROM? :)

Thanks in advance!
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ftheriau01:
Hi here

http://db.tt/4IotHvd1
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] scotty1223:
i thot id go ahead and start a thread for this,to get a lil more exposure than the other thread ive posted in.

ive been using an att one x on t mobile,waiting for the refarm to make here

a couple days ago,i popped my t mobile sim back into my international one x,and its getting 3g/H data just fine. apparently the refarm has made it to dayton,oh,finally :D

however,my HOXL refuses to connect to anything other than edge... if i remove the sim card,4g pops up for a brief second when i power the phone on. ive tried it on stock 3.17.707.1 and stock ATT 3.18.502.6. ive tried a couple different APN settings...

ive also now tried viper 3.2.7,and tried 2 different t mobile one s radios( :eek: ) against my better judgement ;) also tried changing the CID. still no go.

my international one x,att inspire, and att jetstream continue to recieve H data no prollems,on wich the HOX got a best speedtest of the following on a dozen or so tests,so im definately in a refarm area:

i dont think the imei has been black listed,i get no error messages,and the sim continues to function just fine in other devices.

any ideas? i actually prefer the HOXL over the HOX since its s off. id love to HSPA+ working.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Herc08:
Could be a hardware issue. Do you have a friend who has AT&T that can test it out? If they get edge speeds, then it is definitely the phone. If not, you may need to keep trying different APN settings.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] pjcanales:
Thus happend to me before when I first got my phone during the first week I went thru three HTC one x and the second one would get 4g the got stuck with edge. Sorry to say but in my experience it was the phone.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] coldrazor:
*#*#4636#*#* in dialer, hardware info then select wcdma only and see If you phone catch 3g

Enviado desde mi HTC One X usando Tapatalk 2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] scotty1223:
thanks for the replys. ive tried every combination in the programming menu :eek:

thanks,this is an excellent idea. next time i see my sister ill have her or my b-law pop in there sim and see what comes up :)
[Networking] Technoas:
Now I have been looking for 2 days on this forum, and I cant find it anywhere!!

Okay, I would like to be in my bed with my PDA, and surf the internet.

I dont have a Bluetooth dongle my self, by the guy next to me has. And I have permision to use his internet connection. (Less than 10 meters away, it about 3-4 meters).

So one problem is that I cant use the BT Active Sync, to surf the internet (I dont know if this is how it is done), like you can surf while the XdaII is in the cradel.

So I have been surfing around, and I think I need the WidComm BT stack to be able to surf the internet over BT. But how is this done. I have downloadet files, and read alot on this forum, but I cant seem to find any install guide those cab files and other thing to the PDA.

And then I have read about alot of users that has had problems with the WidComm stack, and say that the M$ BT stack can do the same in the latest update, but I cant find the settings, it all looks the same.

So if any one can help a XdaII (or PDA) newbee, with an install guide and some of your sugestions for the networking, then I would be realy happy.

BTW, if you also know how to set up an audio gateway on the PDA (for my head set) then that wold be great as well. And maby to get the button on the headset to do M$ voice command (if you have it install), then that would be fantastic.
[Networking] cruisin-thru:
Try downloading bluetooth tools and see if that works for you.

http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html
[Networking] Technoas:
I did that, but it did not change to much, it only gave me a "call last number" function in the head set, but not any thing with the network :(
[Networking] dazza8082:
BT and COM

i am having a hard time with it as well, I have win XP pro, and a sitecom USB BT dongle, the drivers for the dongle dont seem to work, it is has if the XP drivers have taken over, all the guides seem to use settings that are not available to the Windows XP BT drivers,

at one point i thought i got it, instead of connecting my XDA to the PC i did it the other way about. This time windows detected and setup some COM ports, although at the moment its at com 13 and 14

(this can be changed by doing to Device manager, selecting the port, properties, advanced, and changing it to whatever you want, it will say the port is in use, but none of the other ports 1-12 are infact in use (although it says they are) not sure if this will generate further problems?

So i think thats the PC side sorted?

now the PDA side, just before i updated PPC2003 i tried this and it didnt work, i then installed those BT tools and it came up with the cool servies page right at the end of setting up a link.

But didn't work, with hindsight i believe it would work if i had connect as i explained above, adding the XDA to the PC.

I then updated PPC2003 useing o2's updater.

setting up a link using the BT settings right after the update did have some extra settings to do with com ports but it still doesnt work and the connect via BT on activesync isnt there.

Then i tried those BT tools everyone is going on about

i get the BT icons on the desktop but thats it, nothing else happens. The cool services screen fails to pop up after setting the link and the connect via BT in sync is also missing.

this might be of no use but at one point useing standard drivers from XP and PPC2003 SP1 i did get a message saying it couldnt connect because it might not be a smart phone or PPC or somthing like that. im totally stuffed with this.

oh it does connect in that i can transfer files TO the XDA but not the other way about.
[Networking] Rayan:
Hello folks!

This is how I've done it...

1- I installed Widcomm version 1.3.2.7 (on the PC) (BTW I use a Cheap-o-Epox USB dongle)

2- I Downloaded BT Tools (http://bluetooth.i-networx.de/index_e.html)

3- I established an Activesync connection through Bluetooth (this is done on the PocketPC by using the Activesync/Tools/Connect via 'computername')

4- I configured Widcomm to always trust the incoming MDA2 Bluetooth connection.

5- That's it, works every time... (well actually sometimes works on the second try but works nonetheless)

Good luck!

Rayan
[Networking] onepieceman:
I've also had some success with the Widcomm stack, but I have one problem.

In order for the bluetooth connection to work, I need to log into an account on the XP machine. If someone else then comes along and logs into another account, then my bluetooth connection is dropped. Also, if I don't log into an account, then I can't use bluetooth.

Basically, it seems to be the case that instead of running as a service, the bluetooth stack is running in user accounts. Anyone else got experience with this? Is there a way to configure the installation so that it runs as a service?
[Networking] AndyG:
Hi Guys,

I have a similar question... is there a release due / tools available to fully utulise the bluetooth stack like the ipaqs for example. Ipaqs can locate and connect to devices as a 'hunter' but the XdaII just seems to be the 'hunted' when it comes to establishing a connection. Is there any way to make my otherwise excellent XdaII a bit more agressive when it comes to seeking out bluetooth connections??? I have already installed the Bluetooth tools v1.01 but this doesn't help the actual 'seeking' connectivity part of things :(

Can any of you bright sparks out there help ???? If enough people wanted this functionality, what would it cost to develop if it is not available maybe ???

just a thought. Cheers all.

AndyG
[Networking] malcolm:
I found the answer to how to install the .cab file, just copy it to your device and select it in file manager, it then install's itself.

If I manage to connect my GTek 2020 to my BT AP with this I'll let you know!
[HTC Droid DNA] mattking45:
Hello, I'm kinda to to this android stuff. I am on 2.04 on my droid DNA and I was wondering if I could root my phone. Is their any thing I could do.
[HTC Droid DNA] mattking45:
Thanks can I downgrade or something.
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
Nope
[HTC Droid DNA] iOSh8er:
Yes. You can find someone to Jtag the device for you. This will allow you to root your phone.

Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you... ;)
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
My current phone is the Samsung Galaxy S3 9300 and am using it here in the Philippines. LTE was just launched today and unfortunately my phone doesn't support LTE. I want to upgrade to an LTE phone that would cost me the least amount of money. Is it ok to just upgrade to the 9305 or would it be wiser to wait for the S4?

I hope you guys can give me advices here. Thanks.
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] anguslaw:
What are their price?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
Which ones?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Glebun:
wait for the i9500
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
Why so? How's the pricing of it though?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Glebun:
why? compare the specs and you'll know why right away
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] DjeMBeY:
He asked for LTE so i9505...... ;)

I9305= Value for money

I9505= Better phone

It's down to your wallet..... ;)

Next week I'll have them both :D waiting for i9505...
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
Oh ok :) You mean there are also two varieties of the new S4? 9500 and 9505? What are the differences of both aside from the latter having LTE support?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Glebun:
nooo, not the i9505, that's the snapdragon version. you need the i9500, which has samsung's eight core exynos, and it supports LTE
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
Ah ok. So the 9500 is better than 9505?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] Glebun:
yes. it's not officially available in the US or UK though
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] anguslaw:
What are both of the s3 and s4 prices i mean.

In HK, the I9305 ( samsung galaxy s3 lte) costs around US$500 while galaxy s4 costs around US$756.

In this case, the price difference is US$256.

then you analyse if this is worthy to buy galaxy s4.

The battery is bigger ( volume) in S4 - but we all have portable charger, who cares!

The S4 monitor is bigger ( 0.2inch) then S3 - seriously, not much difference

The S4 monitor can display 1080HD, while S3 can display 720HD- Both are HD. For a big screen, like 50inch TV, you could notice the difference of 1080 and 720. However, come on, we are talking a 4 to 5 inch monitor and you were not an eagle ( with good eye sight), you couldn't notice the difference.

The S4 has more "floating " functions-- hahah, this function is funny, imagine how difficult you place your finger on top of the screen while not touching it while you are on a bus or while you are walking , moving , etc. What a brilliant functions hahaha.

And at the end of the day , will you spend that US$256 to buy the aboe mentioned "pros"?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] kevindd992002:
Wait, which one isn't available in the US/UK?

I thought Samsung usually uses a numbering scheme that means a higher number is better than a lower one? In the case of the S3, i9305 is better than the i9300. Why did it change in S4 (i9500 is better than i9505)?

Good points. I do care a lot about the battery life though. And the S4 is much faster than the S3, right?