yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
What I'm seeing at the P.A and LZ thread is that their having trouble booting in recovery... Try go back to selected ROM(Hope its this ROM :D ) and flash BlueLightning.

Edit: No recovery to go into? Next time just download ROM manager and flash CWM from the app. :)

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] flyers00:
You beat me to the punch, was typing that and you said the same thing about ROM manager
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Well sucks for you lol :p Okay really sorry guys about not updating the ROM. Was going to but then I have finals(gotta pass it :thumbup: ). Will have a minor update in 2 days...

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] jparnell8839:
dont know if anyone else has brought this up, but trebuchet crashes when trying to choose System Settings -> Launcher -> Dock -> {Pages | Default Page | Icons}. If you need me to (later) I can post a logcat. clearing data does not fix it.

other than that, great rom :D might just become my new daily driver, if it gets maintained

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also, is this official for our device or still beta/wip? i didn't see ours listed in the github
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Oops. Forgot to put that out there. Since this was a port of CM10.1 Trebuchet. Some settings don't work. If you guys want the CM10 Trebuchet back. Just tell me (:

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] jparnell8839:
I dont really know what the benefits of the 10.1 Trebuchet are over 10.0. It seems to me (since we're having all kinds of JB kernel issues making people scream "LAKMVAR8943A09GMNDFGHAPOGPJAVA;IJAPAFIVUR" trying to get 10.1 going), it would be a better benefit to use the 10 trebuchet. I do like the customized trebuchet, but is it possible to re-integrate the phone details in System Settings -> About Phone?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] junkypong:
Touch pal keyboard does not work..tried to clear data and even reinstalled. It keep saying "unfortunately setting has stopped". ROM is cool though...good work:)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
There's a work around this. Download touchpal then after that go into settings/Launguage&Input and click on TouchPal. Then switch the keyboards

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] junkypong:
Thanks...it worked:D
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Super Minor Update. OP updated with v2.1. OTA will be in the next version(Probably V4).. Having trouble with it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Today has been a sad day for my Galaxy S Blaze ): While trying to add Aroma Installer to the ROM I have forgotten to change the script.. After I have flashed it, it didn't boot up. Didn't vibrate as usual when booting. I will be getting a replacement in three weeks tops (: That said, I need testers for future builds and ROMs for the time being.. If you want to become one, please PM me. Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] woodyjlw:
I bricked my blaze once before and it would not boot or vibrate but I was able to finally get it to come up in download mode on a windows pc and fixed it with odin.. I had to try multiple times in a row to get it to into download mode but once I got it I was able to fix it.. I think what bricked my blaze was a kernel i mistakenly flashed for a different phone :silly:

thanks :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Updated OP with V3 on an attempt to fix FC on toggles.. It is untested also.. Did not have time to change the build date..

If you are having problems. PLEASE tell me and post a logcat..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] redfish65:
V3

I installed V3 and the toggles are working great. Have been running all day with no problems.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] njstein:
Are we able to just flash the NOS? Only curious because the op for it says that cwm is no longer supported...

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
No. It is not a flashable zip. Will put it on the side that its not.. Sorry for the confusion You can install it via Terminal or Script Manager..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Going To Try Out This Rom Today :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] njstein:
Thanks for letting me know! I'll have to read up on how to use terminal, never done that before. Flashed Adrenaline about an hour ago and already see a tremendous difference! Thanks for posting these!

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Really Great ROM ! The Only Thing I Saw Wrong Was The Expandable Notifications Was Buggy
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Be more specific.. What was buggy?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Expandable Notifications Always Stay Expanded. Can't Collapse Them. When I Try To Collapse They Expand Again
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] chinabear13:
I'm assuming you did a full clean install from your previous rom? Been running this as my DD for the last couple days and have had no issues like that.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
I'll Try Flashing This Again & See If I Still Get This Problem

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Flashed ROM Again & Now Not Having Any Problems. Looks Like This Could Be My New DD :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
A Lot Of Force Closing In The Settings With The Cm 10.1 Trebuchet. Would Like To Know If You Can Upload One With The CM10 Trebuchet. Btw Thanks For The Awesome ROM :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
I am.. I was going to try to update the apps to its 4.2 look.. It looks like there are a lot of crashes.. Minor update later this week. :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] njstein:
Looking to install NOS and one of the requirements is to have busybox 1.20.4+, I'm running 1.20.2, so I'm guessing I need to upgrade my busybox but can't find a way to do so. I downloaded a busybox installer app from jrummy but it doesn't go any higher than my current one. Is my busybox version okay?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
I haven't tried NOS yet because Adrenaline makes my phone smooth already... Just make sure that, that version of busybox has run-part
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
Wiped/full cleared and installed v3 (without restoring anything or adding gapps) and have 2 gallery and 2 camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Really? I dont have two.. Did you just install V3?? 3.1 is coming in 10 minutes :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Will 3.1 Be Using CM10 Trebuchet ?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Yes..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
Haha, yeah.. Two of each.. I even did a full rom wipe including dalvik cache before I installed it.

Guess I'll wait before I screw with restoring settings and ****
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
One Last Question. To Update From v3 Do I Just Flash The Zip Or Do I Need To Wipe Data & Factory Reset Like Before ? (Sorry I'm Used To CM Where It Automatically Installs The Update)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Just wipe Cache and Dalvik.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
Aww, and here I was doing full rom wipe >.<
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
lol. When updating a ROM just wipe dalvik and cache.. Right now im just signing the ROM then I can upload :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Updated OP with Version 3.1.. Remember, if using an outdated version of the ROM, to update just wipe dalvik and cache. Also, this might be the final version.. Haven't found any bugs anymore..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Anyway To Get Original Browser Back ?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
I did it successfully, from the Titanium backup I did before I updated ROM

I kind of liked having the Browser named Browser.

EDIT: Aww, mixed something up restoring backups, gotta reinstall >.<

Eh, going back a version or two, something in my backups is incompatible, two reinstalls later
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] chjema:
i noticed you took out dsp manager and apollo. Any chance of putting this in it?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2087630
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Its in there already lol

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] Heretic90:
Have you fixed the advanced settings? BLN is unable to stay off. Also. Can you now switch the toggles.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Toggles are now working properly..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] kfontane:
When I go to my settings and go to the toggles it keeps force closing with this message stating the process stopped or something like that. And I just updated to 3.1 following instructions to the letter. Any idea of how to get past that. And I had to replace the trebuchet apk because it kept force closing after I updated.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Do a clean install.. Toggles for me are working great. And no crashes here for Trebuchet..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
I settled on v3, and I've done a clean install twice (since v3.1 and my backups don't get along and I kept getting neverending boot logo), and keep getting random reboots (nothing really hassling me with fc's, just the occasional "com.google.process.gapps has closed" and once today "settings has closed") I really should figure out logcat so we can see if it's a rom issue or my issue. Is there any tutorial to getting useful logs?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Just search for logcat on Google play.. There are also tutorials to do logcats on the computer hanging somewhere around xda.. I'm on 3.1 and haven't gotten a fc. I did a clean install, not just a wipe of cache because I was testing another rom :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] warwolf477:
Good stuff

Thanks awesome, this is the best Rom I've seen.

Every other Rom on the blaze had bad glitches.

Your works on the first try:good:
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] blazetim:
do you still use the lightning kernel on top of this or is there a custom kernel with this rom?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
CM10 kernel is in this.. Flash whatever kernel you like..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] blazetim:
it will not let me pull down the drop down notification menu. It will start to pull down then stop and go back up.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
It Does That Sometimes. Don't Worry It'll Start Working
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
I keep going back to the Lightning kernel when I update the rom, it's got its own problems, I get one or two random reboots every day or so, but it's definitely saved my battery life, I hate getting up in the morning and having to recharge by sundown..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
In the OP the features says app drawer tab in notification area, anyone know how to toggle this on?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Its been taken off.. It was a 4.0.4 feature for Provision. Sorry for the confusion...
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Anyway you can port it into this version? (Only if you have time, not a big deal)
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
I haven't looked in it yet. But I have a Provision 4.0.4 if you guys want it (:

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
What's new? I thought 3.1 was perfect already
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
4.1* lol. Some old features.. The Notification Drawer looks different. Boot. A lot if stuff from ICS. Its based on CM9. So mostly the stuff from it. More information over here:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1691519

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Stupid phone lol. I quoted it -.-
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Lol. I think I'll stick to the CM10 based provision. It's been the best ROM I have used on my blaze yet & I don't think I'll be changing from it unless the devs are able to get CM10.1 on the blaze.

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I have been meaning to ask: Is there anyway to delete a home screen? There's no launcher settings & I really don't want to download a different launcher just to get rid of it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Once we get CM10.1 I'll be updating Provision lol. I'm fixing up HellyBean probably tomorrow as well.. Go to Settings/Homescreens and click homescreens. It will ask you of how many pages you want. Just change it to how many you want :D

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
There is no homescreen menu in the settings
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Sorry lol. In a hurry right now.. Settings/Launcher/Homescreens.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
There's no launcher settings. I said that in my first post lol
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
What launcher are you using? If your using Trebuchet it should be in there. Different launchers should have settings... Like Nova. There are settings that are able to change it..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
I'm using the trebuchet launcher that came with the ROM. Look the launcher settings is missing
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Look for a Trebuchet Launcher apk and reinstall it..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] DiViNEX:
Hey i seen this thread for nos injector. It has the newest version 5.2 and its flashable via recovery.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2158329
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] njstein:
I was about to say the same thing. Have you used NOS, DiViNEX?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
NOS works great... Will update OP sometime later..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] DiViNEX:
Yes I just flashed it last night...works great so far. Definitely made my phone smoother. There lots of good scripts he has built in like the rambooster which works wonders.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] njstein:
Flashed this morning and agree, amazing. Would recommend it to anyone reading this thread.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] DiViNEX:
Just noticed the nos injector 5.2 deletes all init.d scripts and uses only nos injectors. I'm running aokp with blue lightning kernel and it deleted the gpu oc script and all other scripts. Just a heads up.

Edit

Also I cannot get a logcat. I tried 3 apps, catlog, logcat extreme and one other. None of them display any log...I could before I flashed nos injector.

Odd...

Edit again...

Ah nevermind nos injector disables most logging..I read the features list just forgot about it I guess lol
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] true2me:
some problems to look into

I have been using this rom for a week now and there are some consistent problems. The status bar sometimes hangs where I cant access it unless I reboot the phone. The phone also seems to go out of coverage more often with this rom also than other roms.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Coverage is in Hardware itself.. For me I don't loose any data.. For status bar. When you switch to toggles and close the Notification Drawer it doesn't go down all the time. Just switch back to Notifications and close drawer..

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
What's with the thread name change?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
New team. They've been helping me out on ROMs like this one.. They are also making more for the Blaze. Just wait :D

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Tried flashing Lighting Zap kernel numerous times today with this ROM & it just keeps rebooting. Anyone else have this problem?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Did you wipe cache and dalvik cache before flash the kernel?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
When I flashed it it said it wiped the dalvik-cache so I thought I didn't need to ?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Wiped cache & dalvik & still the same problem. Do you know any other good kernels with good battery life ?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Blue Lightning and LZ are the only two kernels(for now) for JB..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] chinabear13:
I presume those are ok to flash with the ROM?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Correct.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] ducky69247:
Mostly.

I'm working with the LZ developer to fix some issues I've been having (I'm running it with ProvisionMOD) along with another guy using it with a different rom

Chances are you won't have the same problems, but just in case, he's trying to get them sorted
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] tha23kidd:
I'm getting webpage cannot be displayed when clicking on the nos injector link
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] chinabear13:
You have to enable web view and then you can download the file. Happened to me too.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrKleenex:
Should i use NOS or Adrenaline? Also what kernel should i be using?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
Does the alarm work in this? Used paranoid and aokp roms and the stupid alarm doesn't go off.... Unless you turn on the screen and wake up the phone....
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
I use the alarm every day for school & it works great :D
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
Thanks! And I can flash LZ over this?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] NoobNick_24:
Yup. Worked for me with no problem
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
Just downloaded LZ 3.7 again and copied it over to my phone. Flashed it over Provision rom and getting random reboots again. So it doesnt work on AOKP or Provision rom???? I really dont want to keep using Blue Lighting as it doesnt have Lionheart..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Clean Install... Flash ROM after wiping everything of course. Then flash gapps. Reboot. Then flash LZ.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
I already did that. Twice. and I used Blackhole wipe and FSC. and I redownloaded LZ before flashing it again... I think its the 3.7 version thats having problems

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Wheres the setting to turn off the lockscreen vibration when unlocking?

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I guess im not the only one having these issues....
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] flyers00:
You may also want to go to mounts / storage in recovery and format system. I have run lz3.7 with provision and liquid smooth ROM.good luck ,hope you get it going
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
I already wiped everything tho. Its like my phone is brand new. And if I cant turn off the stupid lockscreen vibration im probably not going to be using this rom.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
You can turn it off in the settings/security. Uncheck vibrate on touch.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] itsLYNDZ:
Theres no option there...
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Try to turn on the widgets for the lock screen.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] iDreamless531:
You must understand all chips are different. So if LZ work on someone else's phone it might not work on yours. You may b able to OC yours to 1.8Ghz but the next Blaze my freeze up at that speed, maybe try Bluelightning
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] Somcom3X:
Is it possible to lower capacitive button brightness?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
O yes, I got the soft keys, thanks to pimp my ROM app
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] Somcom3X:
How?
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
Pimp my ROM app, the beta has navigation bar, when activated you can turn on navigation setting in Provision menu and change color etc.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] rasafrasit:
Compass

Does the compass work? I've tested every JB ROM I can find for this phone and NONE of them have a working compass (Maps points and turns the wrong direction).
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] henslo:
Then make a different ROM that does. GPS works fine for me, no problems with this ROM at all. But if I could make a suggestion, get rid of the lightning browser and add the original back, a swype keyboard would be nice to. Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Was thinking about that too.. might just get the 4.2 keyboard instead of swype..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] joyce moralezz:
w

why the black hole is recommended i will help to no do crashes???
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] Romman0:
It cleans up the partitions, along with performing all the wipes you should do prior to switching Roms or to fix issues with a flash. :D

Its not required, but make sure you do the proper wipes. Black hole just makes it easy.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] joyce moralezz:
the keyboard and bluetooth

i flash this rom and when i was gonna sync my accounts the keyboard wont comw out the keyboar was not working i cant sync and cant do anytihing and the Bluetooth wont work to can you fix it i like this rom but until thath bug is ot fix i cant flash it
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Updated OP to the Final Version. Working on updating the other ROMs!
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
How can I update to 4.0 if I'm on v3 without losing my data ie. Apps, texts, search history
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Just wipe cache and dalvik in Recovery
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
Would I be able to restore from my backup if an error occurs
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Of course.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] iDreamless531:
Do you have a link for the original cm10 kernel? My phone doesn't play nice with BL or LZ kernels
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Will get you a flashable zip when I can..
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] iDreamless531:
Thank you sir
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Here you go sir (:

Stock CM10 Kernel for the Galaxy S Blaze 4G

http://d-h.st/3hb
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] iDreamless531:
Thank you again bro

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It would be a good idea to upload it to the OP as I'm sure I'm not the only 1 who would prefer it
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
Thanks for the suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
I had problems in the past with some apps and this is the reason why, is there any fix
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
The fix at least for me was to download superuser from market
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
SuperUser is already baked in the ROM...
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] MrPapito429:
But it didn't give me root, I tried using xposed installer and nothing happened, I installed the other superuser and it worked fine, maybe it was just me
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] :
this rom looks awesome.. I want to try it, but I would like to know if wifi calling is working?.. I definitely need where I live..thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S Blaze 4G] xWolf13:
AOSP Roms do not support WiFi calling.. All JB ROMs on this forum(Galaxy S Blaze) do not support it either..