[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Kal-El7:
I feel the same way now, too. I won't be making any future requests "publicly" either so that I may be in compliance with AkaTheMacDaddy's sentiments. Since I noticed Dwitherell hit the 'Thanks' button on that post, I will assume perhaps maybe Aka is on to something and thereby I'll take enough care to be respectfully mindful of this. Although, I've only elaborated on any requests for additions that were already made by someone else.

To Alexia and Dwitherell, we're sorry. We didn't intend on adding more to your plate. I guess where we failed was to clarify timeframe. Aka is right in that this hobby FEELS like a full time job. It's very time consuming/demanding/exhausting. Perhaps what should have probably been made more clear was that we'd like to see if these developers would be interested in simply checking out some of these other creative implementations at "their leisure"....meaning....at any time in the future. Doesn't have to be right away or in the subsequent version release. In fact, I be trippin' out on how fast Dwitherell replies with speedy responses. He kindly tackles these requests much quicker than what I would ever have anticipated. Certainly not our goal to illustrate demands.

Even if we could pretend to say that Dwitherell was completely fine with our approach in requests, we still run the risk of offending someone else who's not leading this project. We should take care to be sensitive for their sake, as well. A joyful heart is a healthy heart.

I humbly feel that any requests were conceived out of excitement for this ROM and not out of deliberate inconsideration.

I'm sad that a desire and excitement for evolution would be interpreted as selfishness only by some (not pointing fingers at all) and by other people who take their requests a wee bit out of hand that then ruins it for the good folks who are professional in their requests.

Aka made some very good points and I applaud the courage. I agree with Aka in that sometimes requests can get so out of hand that it could ruin the integrity of a thread. It would be nice if we could have a "Request" section. You'd think XDA could have a "Requests" section in your personal inbox for those who have earned the badge of Recognized Contributor/Themer/Developer, etc. I also believe that in all other ROM/kernel/Theme threads, it is "almost" universally understood that XDA has popularly established itself as a culture of nothing but requests from little people like me. It just has to be done in good taste. It's typical behavior on here to have a ratio of one developer (who starts a thread) to thousands of fans. Requests are a natural behavioral pattern that unfolds. I could be wrong, but it's my impression that folks want to see an already great ROM be even greater and therfore a mature developer won't take offense to that, but, instead, would welcome the heads up on some ideas. It's my impression from my PMs with Dwitherel that he welcomes creative discoveries and ideas beyond his own scope and that's how it should be and I believe Dwitherell loves this - so as long as it's in PM and doesn't hijack his thread. Anyone looking to innovate would responsibly understand this and draws/absorbs from other examples as a source of inspiration. That's just a natural progression toward the evolutionary development of any one given product. That's how the next Xbox One and PlayStaion 4 were designed.....by conducting tons of focus groups with thousands of gamers (the little people) to have a voice. Natural progression. Like, natural-natural. But to appease other people, we'll suppress our creative aspirations "out in the public thread" and accept things as-is just to illustrate how truly appreciative we really are (with the exception of PM'ing the devs). Believe me, if we knew how to, we would hop on board and help implement some of these things ourselves to alleviate the false perception of pressure added by us, the community...to alleviate the deception of demand and falseness of ungratefulness. Not because we're misconstrued as ungrateful, but because that's why we went with Android instead of Apple......so that our favorite ROMs could reach the sky with new leaps and bounds on newer versions (eventually). That's why we're rooted, so we can make requests (in private) without penalty and judgment and condemnation or rebuke. We'll just have to make them on PM, that's all.

One more thing on that note , however - If anyone else ever has any more ideas, please private message it to Dwitherell instead of posting it publicly on here, though. Making said request publicly could possibly lead to sparking an onslaught of dialogue and could lead to hijacking, derailment and offense to anyone else.

Please don't delete this....I was humble. =)

On the record, best ROM just as it is.

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Dag on right. =)

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I'm confused by your request on the Trinity Kernel. Please clarify. Are you asking what other Note 2 ROMs exist with Trinity by morfic? Or where to get the kernel separately so you could flash it?