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[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
I think it has to do with the concept of a big general rom, the unnofficial is made just for Crespo, now I'm no developer but when creating a rom for more devices I think that first they make it a general development case eaven if one device has a dual core or quad, ao single procesor, and eaven if the amount of Ram is'n't the same the features are supposed to be the same so they need time to figer out the owerall bugs, the owerall memoryleaks, the pros and cons for all devicas and once this is finished then and only then they get to stabilise it foe every phone in part (fix bugs and stuff related only to a device). So to answer your question to build for one device you get strait to that device, you jump a fiew steps, but for general support it's hurder...P.S I'm only a noob so this is just a pooinion, I kan't be certan
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
I honestly thought the role of a ROM maintainer for a specific device (in this case, Gingo21) is to make sure that the ROM is somehow optimized for that device? I don't know their process of maintaining a ROM but in my opinion it involves precise coding and testing before releasing. But i guess for a nightly to be published every night so that we constantly get new features, the maintainer only tests if the ROM boots correctly and no major bugs are present, and not if the ROM is optimized for the device - which involves further testing. That's why they're a team. They make sure the ROMs they release are properly optimized for the devices they handle. I might be wrong though, this is just personal opinion. I respect the devs and their work. :good:
[Nexus S Android Development] casperr:
I reckon this ROM comes with Google apps especially play store right? Just asking as I have made a mistake of installing avatar rom and sent the phone to my cousin without the google apps and quite hard as she does not understand flashing and stuff
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
It doesn't come with gapps, you'll need to flash..
[Nexus S Android Development] Big Dog KMc:
Thanks for the link.

This version v17 (nu-official) is indeed the best Carbon rom for the Nexus S.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Anyone tried latest nightly i think its better than previous one's? I read the changelog.. I am downloading will give feedback. :cowboy:
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
I think the 5-3 nightly is not yet uploaded. (If you're referring to that. I am intrigued by this: "Dalvik performance fix")
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Exactly. Yes i check too. 5-3 is not uploaded yet
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Our nexus s doesn't have a stable version because the last stable release occurred before I brought the official support.

The unofficial version is a build by mine of the ROM like it was the 17th of April. The nightly of today is the ROM with the last version of the code. It's the only difference, and for me the 17th nightly isn't fastest than the lastest, I personnaly don't flash kernel and update to the last nightly rarely(only each week), and I never have a speed problem. I've made some test to the different nightlies and "unofficial build" and I've found a lot of nighlies faster than the old build :p

Unofficial or nighlties are made exactly the same. (same kernel, same device tree and same vendors files), they all are made just for crespo.

You can't flash a crespo ROM on another device.

For me it is one of the fastest ROM on the nexus S, so I am pretty happy for the optimization. Of course it can always be better...

I never test before a nightly build, they are just automatic builds of the most recent code. Only stable release are tested
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
Thanks for the brief explanation. I hope they are enlightened as I am now. :thumbup: :good:
[Nexus S Android Development] anshumandash:
I was so impressed with this ROM on my nexus s that I flashed carbon ROM on my N4 the day I got it. On my N4 I am on the latest nightly and it's really fast. Today I will update my NS to the latest nightly of this ROM. :) :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus S Android Development] newbie1908:
i'm using nightly, but back to 17 april coz it's the most stable for me..

no lagy..
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Running latest nightly No lags or Reboots, Stock Kernel No OC and all. Just one thing bugs me changes in the new build? Changelog does not show up new changelog.
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
yeah i agree .. anyway lock volume keys still not workin and i figured out that "launch music app on connecting headset " doesn't work with play music but works with poweramp ... i was also wondering what does power sound do ???
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
In regards to the music not playng, it's a rom bug, with poweramp it works case poweramp itself has that option so that app does the same eaven if on roms that don't have that headset option, power sound settings are the settings of the payd wersion of poweramp, and it's sound output coupled with voodoo sound app give the best, the most clear and powerful sound on Nexus S...really gud compaired to other apps (winamp paid wersion for example that has it's own equalizer but the suond isen't clear enough)
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
:eek: ok ... but about power sound ... i meant power sound enable option at the bottom of the sound menu ...
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Stable release 1.7 is up !

It's pretty much the same at the 5/3 nightly ;)﻿
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
Lock volume keys finally working? :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
No :(
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
well if it's absent in the last nightly simply put the quick sound toogle in the in totiffication bar, it's the same thing
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
If it's stable let the flashing beguin
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Humm, on Slimbean it works well, I'll look at it, the problem is I haven't many time, exams arrives soon.

Also, I'll work for a full french translation, if guys are interested and could help me :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Stable 1.7 is slow with Full Wipe.

23MB free ram.

Going to try Unofficial OP build
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Using 5-4th nightly, full wipe no custom kernel or no oc. Just feeling great don't want to change rom's now i am tired of it finally got my rom. :)
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
A week ago I full wiped then flashed the unofficial build. Then yesterday I dirty flashed stable 1.7.

The speed from unofficial build is still here.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Carbon 1.7 is better i think.
[Nexus S Android Development] Zahih:
Flashed Carbon Stable Release v1.7 last night.

Reboot everytime I uninstalled an app.

is anyone have the same issue?
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
i9023, stock kernel - cannot reproduce the issue.
[Nexus S Android Development] 123go!:
just installed the stable version last night. did a clean install with devil kernel. no OC. seems stable so far, can't notice a difference in speed vs the apr 17th one. havent tried any games or anything, but I don't generally play too many.
[Nexus S Android Development] Ibn Saeed:
Perfomance is not good in stable or nigthly, latest. Even tried the 17th. Quite slow compared to other ROMs.

Went back to JellyShot, i get around 80MB RAM free whereas in Carbon i used to get around 20MB free
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
It all depends on HOW you use your phone. Don't generalize the statement -"Other roms are faster" as it doesn't help the devs. :thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
:confused: I always have over 100mb free ram, I'm not sure how you got such low amounts unless you enabled the available ram in recents and selected all the options like cache, and were using the recents screen for your comparison.. if you go into the app manager, you'll get a true assessment of free ram. I have tested all the 4.2 roms and while jellyshot is a great rom, I wouldn't say it's faster.., and it tests really poorly on all benchmarks (though this isn't the best assessment or overly accurate).. I find that it also is laggy on too many applications and thus why I don't use it and I use Carbon instead..
[Nexus S Android Development] assassinoid:
Gingo21

Please check the screenshot and bottom of the icons which have 2 lines
[Nexus S Android Development] Me Gusta:
Is this the stock launcher included in the ROM?

Me Gusta!
[Nexus S Android Development] assassinoid:
NO!!
[Nexus S Android Development] Me Gusta:
Relax, relax!! Shouldn't you go somewhere else if it is not the stock launcher included in the rom?

Me Gusta!

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If it's Apex or Nova, I don't think it's Gingo21's business to fix this.

Me Gusta!
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
Hey now don't bring nova launcher into this... I use nova and it's great! :D
[Nexus S Android Development] Me Gusta:
Didn't mean it this way, but never mind

Me Gusta!
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
no worries, just playing..
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
Sorry for the stupid question but I really do not understand what the ribbon settings are supposed to do, I was thinking of the nottification roibbons make sence but l;ookscreen ribons? Where the heck are they, am I missing something? :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
Small visual glitch on keyboard whenever i enable dark toggle on ANY rom.
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
Use a theme instead?...
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
I can't sacrifice performance.
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
I recently made up a fictitious test that proves that performance is increased by much cooler themes.. And all the other kids are doing it..
[Nexus S Android Development] kkkhattak:
Give some names of the theme please
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
See, I told you all the kids were doing it... :D

I use Blackout
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
Nothing...just LOL :D
[Nexus S Android Development] .stendeck:
Really fast ROM. But after using some nightlies I have to sum up following: speed is reduced dramatically after 24~48 hours because of crespo's limited amount of RAM. The free RAM (Preferences -> Apps -> Active Apps) eventually reaches ~20MB, that's not enough to operate as fast as after the first boot. So after a reboot it's still smooth.

Didn't notice this decrease of speed on any stock ROM. Maybe performance setting of minfree doesn't work?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Use greenify app from the market. :)

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Was using gamerzrom from 3 days back to carbon. hehe
[Nexus S Android Development] anshumandash:
I use the left swipe ribbon. Attached is a screenshot. Lock screen ribbon once enabled will appear under the lock clock/weather widget.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
Aha, so that was it! What launcher is that?
[Nexus S Android Development] anshumandash:
That's nova launcher.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
There are 2 updates but no changelogs.. does that mean nothing changed?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
I'm also confused. :confused: :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] theevilworm:
Hi, got the following problem:

When I put my device to sleep using the power button, I can wake it up normally. However if my nexus turns off because of no user activity (auto idle) I can't wake it up anymore. Screen just stays black.
[Nexus S Android Development] anshumandash:
Are you using the stock kernel? Did you try Marmite? I am running Marmite on my Nexus s and have no such issue.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
Read below

+1 I second this, the best combo with this rom (unnoficial, official or nightly/stable) is Marmite
[Nexus S Android Development] ehl.ey14:
this is a new experimental ROM sir!, try want you want :))
[Nexus S Android Development] triosakti:
gotta try it after finished downloading

#rusuh

edit: sorry.. wrong language LOL
[Nexus S Android Development] deani77:
One of my favourite ROM on Nexus 4. Now my Nexus S running AOKP. Definitely will try this ROM
[Nexus S Android Development] ehl.ey14:
home button not working? help please
[Nexus S Android Development] Zulda:
So I switched from CM10.1. This ROM is faster and looks very good. I found some issues:

- cLock widget on Lockscreen doesn't show weather and calendat entries. But when I add it on second lockscreen, everything works fine.

edit: solved with delete and readded cLock widget on Lockscreen.

- Can't set Lockscreen delay (used to have 5 seconds after power off to lock).

- On Statusbar toggles, when I tap tile, menu doesn't close.

As I flashed from CM10.1 I use it's kernel. Maybe I'll try other, perhaps latest Marmite.
[Nexus S Android Development] ehl.ey14:
is your home button working?
[Nexus S Android Development] Zulda:
Yes, without problems.

Other problem:

Can't calibrate compass, no function in menu.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Everything is working for me anf this rom is snappier. 10hours 68% battery left and 1hour screen on
[Nexus S Android Development] Zulda:
Could you try GPS Toolbar from Play? It hangs my Nexus everytime, so I can't calibrate compass.
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Do you wipe data ?
[Nexus S Android Development] Zulda:
Yes.
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Your problems are not issues, it is just not implemented in the ROM.

For the kernel, the CM one is included in the ROM, it is not because you flashed from CM10.1

No I didn't stop Paranoid port, I'll try to update it this week ;) , I also miss hybrid app but CarbonROM is so fast !!!
[Nexus S Android Development] Zulda:
Thanks for answer. So maybe in next version.

Anyway, fastest ROM. I'll stay with Carbon :)
[Nexus S Android Development] xxxMADxxx:
Yes...Extremely fast..Beware !!! Can make u accident..LOL :laugh:
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
Don't do it!!

Xposed framework is nearly the same as PA and you can easily apply the app on top of any rom.. Don't mess up an awesome rom with pointless features that will only slow it down and make it buggy..

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This happened to me once, on a different rom, ( I think I didn't wipe before each new flash?) but a simple reboot usually fixes this..

Or rewipe and reinstall..
[Nexus S Android Development] ehl.ey14:
reboot and reinstall with clean format does not help at all
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
Any Mods? Did you keep it stock, or use another Kernel? new Radio? because it is wise to wipe dalvik and cache before any new flash.. Try another launcher like Nova and see if it persists...
[Nexus S Android Development] samsyr:
PA wasn't buggy or lagy at ball it's one of the best IMO and I don't like to change all DPI just action launcher which fit very nice with PA :) .browser;calculator so hybrid app is great solution for me I used pacman ROM but it was very slow in our device .and I still like PA come with full gapps and still snappy ..so it's good to have it on our crespo ..and this ROM is very good too . and thanks Gingo 21

Sent from my Nexus S
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
EXACTLY!!

PA is a great rom, but when you try to copy and add all the features from other roms it

SLOWS

them down and causes more opportunity for bugs..

"I used pacman ROM but it was very slow in our device"

Have you tried the Xposed framework?.. This rom already has Pie, so with the simple install of the Xposed app, you would have "nearly" all the same features that you want from PA..
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Did you flash gapps ?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
I use Devil Kernel, its also good.

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@Gingo21 Please provide us changelog 2 new builds with no changes? :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
I think there is no major changes.

BTW, lock volume keys is normally fixed on last nightly. Someone has tried ?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Oh great people try it! It's fixed now! :D I m out right now.. can't test..
[Nexus S Android Development] ej8989:
CONFIRMED. It is fixed. :)

I am on may 9th nightly.
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
did they fixed play on headset connect too ???

anyway i'm testing stable in these days, i'm tired of flashing and flashing, must say i'm having a quite good experience. only little problem are that after a a day of usage it need a reboot to work again in full speed and multitasking is not very performing. bitorrent app is not able to wirk if in background, for example if i start a torrent than go to fb or browser and i come back to bitorrent it has to restart and it didn't download anything, but if i stay on the app it works very good; it's not a big problem i know i use that only once a week so it's not very important ... gps works good, running app too. the battery life is quite good expecially in 2g but i can't go over 1.50 or 2 hours of screen on time ... Today i decided to test it with marmite 8.5 bigmem ... i'll tell you if i will see some improvements in performance and battery life ! ( i mess MPT )
[Nexus S Android Development] jimkaps:
Nice rom , keep up the good work.
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
is it possibile that using marmite make a worst audio quality ??? what do you people suggest ??? i'm using poweramp as player. i also tryed installing dsp manager but i don't know why it doesn't have the last tab where you can adjust more values and it seems anyway not working ...
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
Just use Voodoo Sound free from Play store and put put the sound to hardware maximum, at +5db :D

Perfectly working for me on marmite 8.5cm_bigmen :)
[Nexus S Android Development] Zahih:
Try ViPER4Android, fully customization.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
You need modified DSP Manager I have the apk you want me to share it?
[Nexus S Android Development] BBuZZ:
Yes pleaseee!!!
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Okay try this! :good: :cool:
[Nexus S Android Development] newbie1908:
yeah, without last tab off DSP Manager (WM8994) the sound are not good :D
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Check the above post and download that apk push it into /system/app and reboot.

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They are fixed now BUGS.
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
i copied the apk in system/app but the launcher doesn't show any app else if it results installed ( tryed from play music too and it force close )... anyway i tryed voodoo sound app too and it's already better ...
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
Use Rooot explorer and set the permissions and reboot. :confused:
[Nexus S Android Development] Zahih:
Flashed nightly version 20130511 with clean flash (even I came from 20130510 :) ), I noticed this version is much better for performance, much faster response and smoother than previous vers.

I run with Marmite v8.5CM bigmem.

And not reboot anymore after uninstalled any apps.

But I have some issue with left swipe ribbons: I have set 7 apps shortcut then saved. I can see those shortcuts. But everytime after reboot it only shown 3 shortcuts instead of 7, so I have to go to Carbon Setting→left swipe ribbons then just click save buttons (those 7 shortcuts is already there).

This issue not occurrs with right swipe ribbons. After reboot, those shortcuts always shown.

Anyway, thanks for this great nightly update. :thumbup::thumbup:
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
5/11 nightly random reboot while updating 6 apps and was uninstalling 2 using the app store.. And it is really laggy on updates..

Stock kernel, no oc mods or tweaks
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
I am switching my rom for a while now, ROM is really smooth but every night when i am asleep and see my phone in morning its dead i mean no batt left, and when i check in battery stats it says Media server 40% it wakeup my phone 8hours!! Help?
[Nexus S Android Development] Me Gusta:
Probably media scanner.. try to get some more detailed info by using betterbatterystats or another app like that

Me Gusta!
[Nexus S Android Development] blakeaholics:
Holy crap. To all those suffering with nightlies getting bogged down after a while try using the marmite kernel.

What an improvement.
[Nexus S Android Development] Sucky1983:
Even with marmite 8.5bigmem the available ram goes down to 20mb after a few hours :( apps like whatsapp and Dropbox get auto killed all the time and restart.

Nexus S with jelly shot and bigmem marmite
[Nexus S Android Development] blakeaholics:
Oh really. Damn. I just installed marmite and it's been great so far. I guess I'll find out tomorrow.
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
I will i will, i will stay with other rom for right now. 2-3 days i'll be back on Carbon :D

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I got only 90mb Ram used :( 298 is still free. :laugh: ;) :cyclops: :cool:
[Nexus S Android Development] Maisam.asif:
BYE BYE Nexus S... Just sold my Nexus S and bought Galaxy SII plus in exchange...

Carbon was the best ROM I've ever used on my Nexus S...

Thanks a lot guys...

Specially Setting.Out, for helping me resolving issues regarding choosing best kernel, best ROM and lots more...

Thank You Carbon guys...

Take Care
[Nexus S Android Development] dark'em:
The S2 has Carbon aswell budy and if I'm not mistaken you can flash the roms from the S2 to the plus the only thing you will loose is NFC (the S2 and S2 plus have a diference in Gpu but since the cpu is basicly the same the roms work from one to another). Anyway enjoy your new device!
[Nexus S Android Development] blakeaholics:
Hey what kernel are you using?

I'm getting random restarts on newest nightly + marmite bigmem
[Nexus S Android Development] Setting.Out:
Strange issue...

I thought that just the newer versions were getting a bit slower, but even the unofficial feels the same... Everything is great until I flash the gapps package, more specifically, when the playstore updates.. This is happening in both clockwork and teamwin recoveries, clean installs and ALL roms past and present...
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Strange, I haven't this speed problems even with the new playstore.
[Nexus S Android Development] BBuZZ:
I also have speed problems, and random reboots, but i think its because my backuped apps....i use tb..
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Some nightlies are better than others, when you find a stable I suggest to keep on it.

I can't help you now because I reback on paranoid android.
[Nexus S Android Development] BBuZZ:
And I'm back on Oxygen 2.3.2.. Battery life is of the most important thing to me...:D
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
And how is your battery life ?

On PA or Carbon with matrix 800mhz, undervolt, and using greenify, I approach 4 hours screen usually widespread on 2 days, not bad for a 2 years old 1450mah battery :D

Edit : 1500mah !
[Nexus S Android Development] BBuZZ:
Im on the first full charge, but gingerbread is so lame its killing me... Its fast and smooth and etc but.........until now since 10 AM till 5 PM using GPS software and etc still 70% but i have to go back at least to ICS....
[Nexus S Android Development] dxdevilz:
Themes?

Any theme except the System default one?
[Nexus S Android Development] jpg3927:
i ported it on my hd2.

can i upload this rom to xda forum?
[Nexus S Android Development] sidnoit22:
DAT GLASS
[Nexus S Android Development] Gingo21:
Yes of course you can make a thread on the hd2 section ;)
[Nexus S Android Development] jpg3927:
thanks!
[Nexus S Android Development] kriout:
18 nigthly lot of reboot ... now i'm trying 19th ... i wonder if it's possible to activate the force AC fast charging ... i only was able to do that using marmite and rebooting, but is not very functional, in slim i could activate it just pressing the quick tile toggle...