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[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Exactly. It's a reporting issue.
[One (M7) General] Sango2:
I got my developer edition today and I had a quick question.

There is no problem with me using the Samsung travel charger (700 mAh version)? I'm simply using the chargers I have currently as opposed to open the stock one which comes with the phone.

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/ETA0U60JBEGSTA

I guess the charge rate maybe slower a bit?

Thanks
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Should be ok in the short term. It will still give out the 1A the phone requires. But long term you'll burn out the 700ma charger.
[One (M7) General] Sango2:
Thanks for the info. I'll go ahead and open the 1A charger then and use it.

I was under the impression that the rating on the adapter was capped according to the rating of what it was designed for. Now that you mentioned it, when I was using the current app widget, the input amperage was reading 999 mA (I assumed it was bug/error and disregarded it because of the initial assumption) when plugged in which is consistent that the phone is drawing its requirement of 1A.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Anyone know a current widget thst actually works for the ONE?
[One (M7) General] stepinmyworld:
Wanted to mention that I finally received my 64gig development edition and it charges faster than the at&t version I had when I made this post. Not sure if it's because of a software update or what but it's way faster
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
It is apparently a firmware issue.

Mine is taking 5 hours to charge at the moment and I'm on 1.28.xxx.x firmware.

I've tried different chargers and cables.
[One (M7) General] stepinmyworld:
Yeah mine is 1.29 etc and there aren't any updates so I think it shipped with the firmware update from HTC
[One (M7) General] doraemon6688:
Try Battery Monitor Widget from 3c in the play store
[One (M7) General] stepinmyworld:
There's also one called battery status which adds the battery percentage at the top of the notification bar since you can't add the percentage in the stock battery bar
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
I noticed charging gets slower if you use the phone while charging. Otherwise, it takes 3 hours to fully charge from a dig.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Thanks but I'm looking for a widget thst tells you what charge rate ur phone is getting.. Not battery status.

And does yours charge in reasonable time?

Again, this is different to what I'm looking for.

I use Battery widget reborn for battery status/info
[One (M7) General] scm_crash:
Battery monitor widget will display the amperage your phone is charging/discharging at.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Not when I checked it. Unless I missed it.

Sent from my GT-I9300
[One (M7) General] scm_crash:
I've been using it a long time. One of the values I have setup on it is the Amperage. Although, I'm using Battery Monitor Widget Pro. I don't know if that option simply isn't available on the non-pro.

However, while charging it shows that the incoming current is usually around 780mAh. When discharging and I'm using the crap out of the phone it will usually say the out-going current is 480-590mAh.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Yeah, maybe it's on the pro version. It's the incoming current I'm curious about..

I'm not keen on using BMW as it causes wakelocks.

"current widget" worked great for me on my last phone but it doesn't read accurate on the One. Pity.

But.. Right now my One is charging 7 hours from 1% and is at 96%. I had it switched off until I got up an hour ago to check the charge level. This is unbelievable.. I've never experienced this before on any phone.
[One (M7) General] rnbkcalderon:
N4 charging is longer

I had the Nexus 4 which took way longer to charge then my HTC.
[One (M7) General] stepinmyworld:
70 percent at 10:04am

76 Percent at 10:14am (10 minutes later)

Phone running but Screen off

So this is way faster than before.

Currently on software Number 1.29.1540.3
[One (M7) General] Lookatthemonkeys:
I am at about 5 hours to fully charge during use and using a 1A charger. Battery Widget reborn is a great app also.
[One (M7) General] xdracco:
bing bing. exactly.....

I had hideous standby times until i hunted down my rogue app cause wake locks. now, i barely lose 1% during my 7 or 8 hours of sleep.
[One (M7) General] cachookaman:
Today it took me 5 hours to charge the phone from 36% to 100% using the supplied charger. This was while I was asleep so I wasn't using the phone. The other day it took 6 hours to do 0% to 100%.
[One (M7) General] Hunt3r.j2:
It takes 3.5 hours max. Stop charging off of your computer, use the AC adapter and included cable.
[One (M7) General] andrawer:
I plug it in. Fall asleep. When I wake up it's 100% charged. Same thing I've done with the past 20 or so pho we I've used. I don't notice slow charging.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Custom kernel and fast charging.
[One (M7) General] Nlue:
Use the stock charger

Well that app actually solved my charging problem. I'd never used the stock charger because I had an ipad charger rated at 2.1A. It turns out the device recognizes that charger as USB instead of AC so it was only drawing 500mA. When I tried the stock charger it instantly switched to AC and was drawing the full 1A. Wouldn't have noticed were it not for that app.
[One (M7) General] Friedtofux:
Anyone knows of the Snapdragon 600 quick charge?

Why do i not see it in my HTC One?
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Needs to be enabled at kernel level...

In other words u need to flash a custom kernel that has this implemented.
[One (M7) General] slind:
Various people said that HTC lowered charging speed due to the ONE not being easily repairable. Makes sense to me. I'd not temper with that :)
[One (M7) General] atrako1973:
Non sense , HTC designed the phone , HTC assembled the phone ,HTC certainly will know how to deassemble the phone for repair (hard????!!!!), I have seen this hard to repair floating everywhere ,and it's a total bull**** Just like the WMD
[One (M7) General] slind:
Customer reports battery failure / short battery life / whatever.

Samsung: Remove backcover - replace battery.

HTC: Remove display - remove a bazillion other components - remove glued in battery etc. etc. etc.

I suppose it's way more cost efficient for HTC to just replace the phone in case of failure with the battery. Just look how the phone is assembled on any of the known sites like ifixit.

It's a valid (not saying its true) assumption, that HTC wants to minimize battery wear-off due to the complicated assembly of the phone.
[One (M7) General] atrako1973:
Ifixit messed up the disassembly by not removing tiny screws they didn't see which led to something broken which led ifixit to hard to repair conclusion .... It's not cost effective to replace 20$€£ battery with 600$£€ New phone just because it's hard to get to .....
[One (M7) General] rohith1880:
my phone only takes 1:50hrs for full charge.........................:laugh:
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Any chance u could provide a screenshot of where this reading is please?

I can't see it for the life of me.
[One (M7) General] Nlue:
Sure. Here's with the stock charger and with the iPad charger.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
I use the 2A charger from my GFs note 2 and the phone still takes long to charge imo much longer than anyphone I have had before, i dont even recall my note 2 taking this long tbh. it doesnt bother me when im charging the phone at night but in the mornings on in the day it bothers me as i get impatient when i need to go somewhere and i do make sure i put the phone on charge a long time before i need to go out
[One (M7) General] Nlue:
Have you tried the stock charger? I dunno about the not but it doesn't recognize my 2A iPad charger as AC. Instead it sees it as USB so it takes forever with it. Switching to the stock one cut my charge time by over half.
[One (M7) General] BlobLobba:
Best method for charging any device is to charge it while it's turned off.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Ah right..I thought it displayed the actual current being given out by the charger.

Thanks for that.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
Ill try that actually I thought because the note 2 one had more voltage it would charge quicker.
[One (M7) General] Nlue:
No prob. I kinda did for me because of the 500mA difference between the 2 chargers. The readings fluctuate too. At points it's up to +800mA with the stock and -100mA with the iPad charger. The charge time estimates are spot on though.
[One (M7) General] zaydvath:
Yesterday my note 10.1 took 28h to fully charged...

But back to normal after replace usb cable
[One (M7) General] bgdwiepp:
I've used heaps of phones in the past few months and they have all taken a while to charge, my one is no exception.The only device I ahve that charges reasonably fast is my xoom :S
[One (M7) General] Friedtofux:
Do you have any idea which kernel does exactly that?
[One (M7) General] xineis:
I second that.

My One takes about 3h to charge, but the Xoom, well, that's a LOT faster!
[One (M7) General] De3emon:
My One takes about an hour for every 25%. Hard to give a good estimate from 0-100 because I generally use my phone and keep a charge around.

Just plug it in at night and take it out as soon as I notice it's fully charged.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
If I'm not mistaken it's in Faux kernel. You need the faux settings app to activate it.
[One (M7) General] astromechdroid:
Tricked Out!

I just flashed TrickDroid 5.3.0 on mine yesterday. Great ROM! Battery life is amazing and it has increased the charging speed.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39184446&postcount=3
[One (M7) General] Vincent Law:
Note that enabling the Qualcomm Quick Charge as those ROMs do does damage the battery over the long term. You are sacrificing overall battery life for faster charging. All devices with these fast charge capabilities make this tradeoff.
[One (M7) General] flooty333:
I'm using 32gb AT&T HTC One.

Here's what I'm noticing re charge time.

With the supplies HTC charger (labeled 1A) the phone charges rapidly.

With 56% battery left and the phone plugged in with the HTC charger, GSAM Battery Monitor says time to charge "1:16"

However, if I use ANY other charger that I own, whether it's a 2.1A iPad charger or another 1A charger, the phone seems to only trickle charge as if it's connected to a 500mA USB port.

With 56% battery left and the phone plugged into an iPad charger, GSAM Battery Monitor says time to charge "5:16".

I've tried so many different charges and even swapped out the USB cable. No different in results.

Thoughts?
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Theoretically speaking This is correct but You would want to be doubling the charge rate at least for this to happen. Even with the increased charge rate most people will change the phone b4 the battery needs replacing.
[One (M7) General] cyanogen123:
My phone takes quite a while to charge as well. I guess I'm just used to it now.
[One (M7) General] Vincent Law:
No, you don't have to double it to cause a reduction in battery life. It's not some magical cutoff point, it's a scaling factor. The faster you charge, the more impact it has on the battery life. You could theoretically charge it even faster than the Qualcomm charging method, but heat becomes an issue then (which devastates battery life).

Sure, many might only keep their phone for a year or two, but for those who are hoping to hold onto it for 3+ years, this is a very important factor. Especially since the battery is not replaceable.
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
We are only talking about 200-300mA here (I'm not sure what the fast charge rate is on the One) so it would take along time to see any noticeable damage to the battery.

I've used it on my S3 for about a year now and it's still holding up as good as it did when I bought it.
[One (M7) General] BamAlmighty:
Is HTC including a 2A charger or are they sticking with the old 1As?
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
1A
[One (M7) General] japjit100:
leave at night with charge don't count how many hours it takes at the morning you get full charge htc one :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Fast charge will not hurt your battery for the billionth time. The internal charging circuit adjusts the current automatically. A 2 amp charger is actually closer to the optimal for this battery. I have enabled fast charging on several phones for several years now and haven't had ANY issues with batteries. For Li-Ion batteries the optimal max charging amperage is the same as battery capacity. Examples: a 1000mah battery is 1 amp, a 2000mah battery is 2 amp. They most likely limit it to prevent garbage or defective chargers from damaging the phone. Fast charge and a factory HTC charger should NEVER cause any problems, the charger still only puts out 1 amp(which is still less than 50% of optimal). I personally use my Asus tf300 tablet charger at 1.7 amps and have had ZERO ISSUES. Please stop spreading misinformation based on unsubstantiated rumors. If you don't want to use fast charging, that's fine, just don't make things up to justify your decision.

Even at the higher charging speed, the minimal increase in temperature is negated by less actual time charging(overall exposure).
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
Do u know what the fast charge rate actually is? On the S3 it was 1.2A.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Rate is adjusted on the fly based on battery voltage. As the battery charges it reduces the current. I don't know if there is an actual limit(charging circuit should have one), which does open the door to someone using a 5amp charger and hurting the battery, but if you do not use higher than a 2.3 amp charger you shouldn't have to worry. With fast charging even the 1 amp HTC charger charges the phone much faster(properly), pc usb charging is much improved, and car chargers actually charge the phone timely. USB charging is limited to 500ma because the USB spec only requires a minimum of 500ma. Pretty much all pc mother boards can do 850+ma for several years now.

Slow charging is for compatibility and the masses, we are XDA not the masses. As always, use at your own risk, but if you are using reputable chargers and have half a brain you will be fine. Cheap Chinese knock off chargers shouldn't be trusted with or without fast charging.
[One (M7) General] samjones6:
Yes, very slow to charge

Yes. This is not a hallucination.

I also have a brand new developer version htc one, and it is crazy slow to charge.

Every other android phone I have worked gets %70 or more charge in an hour. The htc one takes a looooong time (three or four hours at least).
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Don't forget the bigger the battery, the longer it takes to charge. Example: my previous phone was HTC One XL which has an 1800mah battery(which I still use on the side). The One has a 2300mah battery and it will take about 33% longer to charge than the HOXL's 1800mah. Without fast charge, the HOXL was slow to charge as well. From what I remember it was over 3 hours for the HOXL. With fast charge it is under 2 hours.

Just run a Kernel with fast charge, turn it on with a tweak included in your Rom, or if your Rom doesn't have a tweak, there is an app in the play store to enable it. You wont complain anymore about how long it takes to charge.

BTW deep discharges wear the battery more than shallow. Charge it more often, it makes less heat, and wears the electrolyte less. You don't need to unplug it from the charger when it is full either, the charging circuit stops charging when it reaches 100%(green led), it will only kick back in if the battery voltage drops at this point(maintenance mode), and the phone is really running off the ac current(really dc on the output side of the transformer) at this point and not discharging the battery. If you remove it at 100% just because you heard its not good to leave it plugged in(untrue for Li-Ion with intelligent charging), this actually wears your battery more.

Here's an nteresting scenario to ponder, you are in the car on "non ac charging"(stock) and it is limited to 500ma(even if your car charger is a full 1 amp). You are using the phone, with Bluetooth, have GPS on, have maps or navigation open, screen brightness cranked up and inadvertently left WiFi on. You are probably pulling more than 500ma and even with the phone plugged in you are using the battery. Fast charging(really the treat all charging as ac charging part) will now be able to provide the necessary current and not drain your battery while it's charging. This would definitely produce a lot less heat.

Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
[One (M7) General] henrybravo:
I've noticed the same thing as you. I have a 2A charger that I previously used to rapid charge my Galaxy S3 (kernel set to 1.4A), and the phone would charge noticeably quicker. But when I attach the same charger to the HTC One, it charges slower than the stock charger. I verified with Battery Monitor Widget Pro that the battery was only receiving between 300 & 700 mAh most of the time (battery was at 20%). Same thing with my iPad 2.1A charger, which is a high quality charger with a stable voltage. It's almost as if the kernel "trusts" only its own brand of chargers, assuming it has a way of identifying the type of charger via a signal through the USB cable.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
From what I recall two pins are shorted. Pretty sure you can modify a cable to provide the same effect. With a modified cable the phone would treat any power adapter connected to it as "ac charging" regardless of type and lift the 500ma restriction. Still not fast charge, but should make a huge difference.

Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
[One (M7) General] henrybravo:
I've still been having low amperage charging with the stock HTC cable on non-HTC chargers.
[One (M7) General] BenPope:
The data pins are shorted in the charger, not the cable, otherwise the cable is likely to cause damage.
[One (M7) General] NxNW:
Had to click thanks on that. c5satellite was getting on my nerves. Some of his stuff was right, some unknowable yet plausible-sounding, and some just plain wrong. But *all* of it came wrapped in this really aggressive know-it-all language as if maybe he could bully people into not questioning him. "For the billionth time! " . You sound exasperated. I guess you must be right.

Interestingly no one is citing any references for any of this. We just have to trust you know what you're talking about based on the words you choose.

I know who I trust.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
Talking of batteries, My Ones battery isnt lasting as long as it used to. I have noticed that the battery is starting to drain fast.

since I had it on march 15th I have always had it at about 30% brightness and power saving mode and made a hell of a lot of phone calls and texts, music (power amp), pics and videos and the battery would still last nearly a day and half now it doesnt even get to a day on less usage, I mean for example I took the phone off charge yesterday about 8pm. The most consuming things I have done in that time are 2 n half hours of phone calls, about 5 mins on the internet, 30mins of music (power amp) and 5 mins of messages, 20 mins on the internet, 10 pics and 3 mins of video and now my phone is on 8%. I am really now becoming in favour of removable batteries
[One (M7) General] henrybravo:
Ahh, makes sense, thanks.

---------- Post added at 03:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:43 PM ----------

I seriously doubt your nearly brand new phone with a nearly brand new battery is already losing its capacity noticeably. You probably need to work with the assumption that something software related is causing the drain, which means really digging into things. You can use the app CPU Spy to see if and how long your phone is in true deep sleep mode when the screen is off, and the app Better Battery Stats (free here on xda) to check for wakelocks. Apps like Greenify are helpful for force-hibernating apps that like to "wake up" the phone a lot (like Maps for example). If you already knew all of this, I apologize. :)
[One (M7) General] BrickL0rd:
I wonder how Otto-normal users are handling these issues without even knowing xda exists.
[One (M7) General] AJerman:
Well after reading through this whole thread I'd say about 90% of the posts in this thread are completely wrong. I'm constantly amazed at how much misinformation there is about batteries. Lithium polymer batteries need no "conditioning", the OS needs no "calibration", you won't hurt anything with any amperage of charger because there's either a hard limit on the charger itself or the phone itself. A 700mA charger won't charge at 1A when used with a phone that supports 1A just like a phone won't charge at 5A just because the charger supports it. That said, I haven't tested or paid much attention to my phone so far in what it's limits and what the charger's limits are. I haven't noticed any big issue with mine taking a long time to charge, so I haven't looked much into it, so I'm not going to make up facts about things I don't know and spread them here. If you want to actually learn about batteries, I've found http://batteryuniversity.com/ to be very informative about a lot of different aspects about batteries, and from there you can read more in detail as you wish.

Just remember, our community is only as knowledgeable as we make it. Read up a little before making suggestions to people so myths like battery calibration and conditioning don't continue to get spread.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
Thanks for this info
[One (M7) General] KennyLegend:
While I respect ur opinion.. I wouldn't exactly agree with this.

When my phone jumps from 10% to 1% in a few seconds or when it goes from 90% to 50% all of a sudden it shows my OS isn't accurately reporting the state my battery is in.

Also... My SGS 2 charger (rated at 700mA) will give 1A to my S3...same as my s3 charger (rated at 1A).

Both tested using "current widget" from. Google play. I trust this was fairly good as it reflected any change I made in the charge rate on my s3. My s3 charger would also give out 1.2A when it's rated at 1A.

Its a pity "current widget" isn't compatible with out htc one
[One (M7) General] AJerman:
Times when your phone jumps from 10% to 1% or shuts off with 5-10% left can usually be attributed to voltage fluctuations causing the voltage to drop below shutoff level for a short period of time. Your percentage left is calculated based on remaining voltage and how fast it's drained. If you leave your phone for a while then pick it up with an almost dead battery and do something like turn on the screen, wifi, and ramp up the CPUs, you get a spike that can drop the voltage too low and trigger a shutdown. As for 90%-50%, I never seen that so I don't know what to say there. I know you can temporarily skew your battery reading when doing things like flashing your ROM, but that equalizes itself out after a short time period of good readings. There is such thing as temporarily knocking the reading out of wack, just not permanently to require some kind of recalibration. The battery controllers take care of all of that.

As for your chargers, I don't have the chargers to test them, but I'd be willing to bet they are just underrated chargers. It's not that uncommon I don't think. I'm pretty sure I've seen it before. See for yourself, if it were a case of the phone overloading the charger and pulling higher than rated amperage, then why did it stop at 1A when the S3 charger on the same phone does 1.2A? These charger blocks are something like 25 cents or less for OEMs, so not necessarily being accurate when it won't harm anything isn't that big of a deal. If anything it's a bonus. Another thing, computers frequently send 500mA to USB ports. Lower current just means potentially longer charge time, not that it's going to overload it and damage it.