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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
*Official releases of highly original and upstream custom ROMs (built from the ground up with significant original development within them

*Official releases/development of such original ROMs, perhaps posted by the maintainer or their nominated person.

*A significant “first” in development for a device. Significant is subjective, but it is likely something which took considerable time/effort, and is generally accepted by developers to be significant and non-trivial.

*Kernels which are built with beneficial changes that are not simply pulled from other kernels already available. Some element of original work is expected.

*Tools and utilities with a clear purpose, and which are well-made, and useful to users. They should have an element of originality, either in purpose or through significant improvement in the means of operation.

*Significant port of a ROM from one device to another, giving enhanced features or functionality to users of the target device. The port should be beneficial (a port from two virtually identical devices isn’t original development, it’s winzipping, and nobody really benefits from this, as it’s not development)

As Revolt is entirely cherry picked, it does not meet any of these requirements.

Source built doesn't necessarily mean Original, this is a huge misconception, and one that is in the process of being dealt with.

Rules and wording can be subjective at times, so I would recommend asking if you have any doubts. This action is not intended to be any kind of a "shame on you" deal, rather we are trying to clean up the forums and unify the basis of development sitewide. Further changes will be coming in the near future, so fear not, you won't be alone ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Oooooooohhh I got u man I understand now. No hard feelings ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ktempleton:
And now we know
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
Exactly, I didn't mean to give the impression that this was anything other than routine maintenance and following through with the sites guidelines. We are going to be doing a lot of shifting things around to get the original development forums back to what they were intended to be, "Original Development".

Not to be rude or upset anyone, but merely compiling from source is really no different than editing zip files. Now there are exceptions to this, namely absolute firsts for a device (lets say someone ported Ubuntu Touch to the E4GT, that is absolutely O.D.), any rom containing purely original code (meaning that it must differ from the base and other available roms), or any rom that brings new and/or increased functionality to a device (such as the PIE and HALO controls). Does that mean that all variations of a rom containing these qualifies? Regrettably, no.

Not to "pick on" Revolt, but purely as an example:

Features
Built from ReVolt Sources | Based on Android 4.3 JellyBean
ROM Control Features (from AOKP) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Hybrid Engine | Paranoid Preferences (Thanks to PA Team) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Per-App-Color [COLOR="Red"]< Many, many variations of this are floating around[/COLOR]
AOKP Ribbons [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Updates Center | GooManager (With Push Notifications) [COLOR="Red"]< A nice feature, but not original[/COLOR]
CyanogenMod Profiles [COLOR="Red"]< Do I really need to explain this one?[/COLOR]
Power Widget
Notification Shortcuts
Navigation Bar Color
Status Bar Color
Option to select Saving Location in Camera
Option to control cursor in text fields using volume keys
Multi User Option
Advanced Phone Options from CyanogenMod (Vibrate on Answer, Every 45 Sec., On Call waiting and Hangup) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Different Pattern Sizes
Trebuchet Launcher (ReVolt Version)
cLock App (Lock Clock) (CyanogenMod) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Expanded Desktop (Hide StatusBar & Navigation Bar)
Pie UI (Paranoid Android) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Font Size Controlling
Cyangonmod Kernel
DPI Changer
CRT On / Off Effect Controller
Lock Screen Targets (CyanogenMod) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]
Lock Screen Shortcuts (Paranoid Android) [COLOR="Red"]< Cherry picked[/COLOR]

I'm sure you see what I'm getting at here.

I do appreciate your understanding guys, this could definitely have gone an entirely different way...

This is why I love this community so much, you guys are the best:highfive:

Thank you:good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Nicely said... So you guys are going to enforce it more now? Is there like a new council?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ktempleton:
I understand what you are saying but honestly when you are talking about desorbed features from aokp cm aospa honestly I've picked these and when implementing these from all these different sources there is considerable work involved and in cases like bringing features from aospa into cm you nearly have to rewrite the code now this is my opinion and either way it's not that bid of a deal but to me when you mix all of these features from all of these different bases that to me makes it original in and of it's self

And just to be clear here no one really supports sprint any more but from what I see you saying here is the only ones that are truely original are the kernels that are here but every one else is android for example my du should be android since it's aokp and even though it has picks from every one else that's the point that means original dev will only have two threads since everyone else has features from the big three seems to me it should be judged on the amount of work that goes into merging the bases not who originally came out with the features b/c as everyone knows in android mostly everyone is a kanger of everyone else my opinion of course
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
No, not a new council or anything like that. The moderation teams have grown to be able to handle the workload now, and we are attempting to clean up the forums and unify the site so that everything is the same sitewide. Part of this is getting the Original Development forums back to what they are/were intended to be.

I understand what you're saying, there is a lot of work that goes into these. Part of the review process is the amount of work required to make the rom, but Original still has the same base meaning. A lot of work goes into porting roms and features from other devices, but they still don't qualify as original. Touchwiz is a great example of this.

Each rom will be evaluated, and each developer will be given the opportunity to present their case as to why their work qualifies as original development, if there is reasonable enough work done to question the eligibility of the works. In this particular case, there was nothing original or significant enough to qualify. As I stated earlier via PM to HazedaBeast, if the feeling is that this judgement was made in error, please feel free to contact me. or any member of our moderation team, and you may state your case as to why the work is original and qualifies to stay in Original Development forums.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
So all revolt threads are being moved from original to android?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
Ideally.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ktempleton:
I'm in no way passing judgement just sharing my opinion thanks for all you do on XDA and for explaining the thought process behind the move
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Stryke_the_Orc:
No worries bro, if there are any questions about what does and does not qualify check out this portal post:

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/introducing-original-development-forums-for-more-devices/

Opinions are always welcome and as I stated earlier, everyone will have their chance to explain why their work qualifies. This instance has prompted us to refine the process a little, so it may be a bit before we see more changes. Just figured a heads up was in order:beer:

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eigokyoukan:
I don't see it as a big deal... You still got the best ROM for my uses haz!

I am spoiled and can't use any ROM other than your 4.3 :D

So smooth, such features, much appreciate, wow *insert doge pic here*
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Soured Lie:
Sweet. A 4.3 rom that does not suffer from visual artifacts. I haven't found a bug yet.

I'm just missing long-press-back-to-kill. I keep pressing it fully expecting it to kill an app. That is really my only suggestion (add that function) .

Q: I can't find where to calibrate sensors. I am I missing something?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
I enjoyed this Rom but it had extremely low sound and no matter what i did the screen would not rotate. I really want to come back to it, but i need my sound and screen rotation lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mholloway:
I dont see anything in op about what modem to use,its not compatable with GB27 is it?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
It's AOSP, use ICS
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mholloway:
Thank you but I figured,but not everyone would.thinking as bout trying dastins update build on hood pope,? Not hijacking if I do try it.I will also try this,it does sound awesome,.....cant just stay away from bils xplosion audio though.:good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
Any ideas on these issues?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
The sound issue is that way on any AOSP ROM. Try this, it helps-http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2448551
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
Any ETA on when it will be official and no longer beta/alpha?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stanik1:
hmm followed instructions of coming from a different rom than revolt. have lil to no phone signal. and the aosp keyboard keeps popping up with unexpected errors.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Ya today or tomorrow stable release :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
What modem are u using?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] stanik1:
im using the ics fl24 modem
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
ugh, back to the no data when outside of wifi again...... can make calls, cant do anything data related :(.... no internet, no email nodda.... tried using apn backup an restore / titanium but nothing.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Do u have that issue on cm?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
when i was using projectx rom the other day, well up till today everything worked fine except the atrocious battery life / inability to wake phone up from sleep, so i came back to this rom.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
Don't know why you had bad battery life, this is Project X.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
Dont know what the problem was to be honest, but couldnt afford the issue lol. Id go to bed with phone fully charged and 4hrs later its completely dead and wouldnt power on. Would require me to take my phone out of the case, take battery out, put it back in plug it into my charger for about 15 minutes and than power it on. Flashed back over to Revolt and battery is fine. It sucks because with ProjectX i had AWESOME coverage and even was getting 4g lte where as i barely get 3g with this rom. The volume / sounds were so much louder and crisp as well. Im leaning towards giving the new Hood Pope a try as its KitKat, but waiting on the no data kinks to get worked out on it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
How did you install? I've used every Rom there is out there, including all the aosp/aokp and all the Project X versions and didn't ever have that kind of problem. Have you tried DS battery saver from the market? As far as 4g lte, you weren't getting it, you were getting the older version 4g wi-max unless you have a different phone other than eg4t, which could explain your issue with Project X too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] st0n3r:
I installed with the step-by-step instructions with each rom that Ive tried. ProjectX had DS Battery saver already in it, but no matter what i set with the settings the phone still died very quickly. I mean even if i sat on my phone and talked non-stop it would still last several hours. This would die within 4-6hrs on a full charge while i was asleep.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] btvolta:
Did you try the jb format all zip?

Edit: Out of respect for Haze, I like his revolt rom as well, if there any additional questions about P-X, we should continue the conservation in the P-X 3.7 thread. Sorry you couldn't make it work for you.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kutty:
Woot! This nightly from 10-20 is still running so smooth - I can't wait for the stable version.

:BEER:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eigokyoukan:
Indeed, I get the odd hang here and there but otherwise the speed and battery are great for me. And sooo smooth!

To the person with data issues, I'm on Ting and they use sprint. Being on 4.3 and also there being zero wimax in my area I cannot attest to 4g but I get an excellent 3g signal and call quality on the 4.3 alpha from 10/20 here. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
I can tell you that no 4.3+ ROM has Wimax right now, Google dropped support for it
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] eigokyoukan:
Indeed, for good reason IMO lol. Sprint never even got to WiMax in this area before busting out LTE. At least the 3g in this area is stronger than what I hear is sprints norm across the country.

That's the main reason why I didn't care about Google removing it... I don't even have wimax to connect with! :rolleyes:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
Smooth

Yes same here, I am on sprint, stable and smooth, no issues... Who needs 4g if you have wireless just about everywhere you go. I wait for getting updates when I get in in wifi area. 3G works good for me when I am out. Running FL24 modem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Glad u enjoy this ROM
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cfli1688c1:
i see the 4.2 rom, is the alpha build the 4.3 rom?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Yes
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cfli1688c1:
I flashed the 422 rom, everything works great, except i am not able to get the hotspot working. I can turn the hotspot on, but other device does not see it.

do i need to flash a modem for the hotspot to work?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] gamepro602:
The modem has nothing to do with the hot spot, can you take a screenshot of your hotspot settings

Like this
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
Group messaging

I am loving the rom, but I miss the option for group texting. Is there a way to get that option on here? Like is it possible to use another mms.apk to replace the one in this rom, or are the settings from another app/file/jar?

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
In theory any other AOSP mms.apk should work, but TouchWiz's mms.apk won't work
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
:good:

Cool was hoping it was that easy..

OK not so easy, I tried about 5 different mms.apk's, uninstalled the mms, rebooted phone, moved new mms.apk over to apps, installed it and no luck. In the settings there is still no group messaging.. I am missing something...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Installed and running well..mostly.. It seams it broke my provisioning and I just got 3g working but for some reason in my phone info it shows no phone number or meid etc.. Any suggestions or reason why the ROM would kill all this info?

Also I can't make my voicemail number stick in settings . I'm thinking its related so maybe solving the first issue will fix this too. I can dial my number direct and VM works etc so idk . I'm trying to stick it out but I've been struggling for 2 days to get it to work...

Running the 4.3 nightly

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
4.3 up there is no 4g
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Not using 4g.. My 3g is working finally but as I said my phone number and other info is not showing in the about phone settings menu. Any ideas why? I assume this is why my phone doesn't recognize my number for the voicemail also..

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Forgot to mention one of my biggest problems is my msl code won't work.. Pop-up says "modem exception occurs". Never saw this before, only ever saw an error if the password was wrong. Any ideas?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
First I would reinstall an ICS modem and/or do another clean install of this rom... See if you still have same problems..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
I'm abt to do the reinstall.. I've already reinstalled the modem thinking that may help and it didn't change anything. It seems like I don't have permission or something to do anything outside of root Explorer. Speaking of, I just went into the permissions setting and it says there's a problem with the app and needs to close. Is this broken in the rom or jus for me? If just me then I'm doing the reinstall today!

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Not sure if it makes a difference but I didn't use a "safe" recovery as it wasn't in the directions so I figured it was not necessary now? Would that cause issues and should I still use a safe recovery? I did full wipe using jbx3 in recovery and manually wipe everything too.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Just an update sry for multi posting...

I did a fresh install and in the settings it still shows that my phone number is unknown..

I Odin the stock jb ROM to partition everything and recheck all stock settings etc and everything was fine out of the box so its not my phone.. I then mobile Odin the el26 cwm kernel and run the jb wipe x2 file from recovery and also run the wipes manually twice. Then installed ROM and gapps. Still the same problem... What am I doing wrong? I've flash a lot and never saw this issue and am only seeing it with this ROM. I'm running the latest ICS modem as well . please help
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
I don't think you are doing anything wrong, my phone likes to be on blasphemy kernel instead of el26/29. So I install any 6.x kernel from him first, restart in recovery then flash rom. However I am starting to believe that you have an issue with your rom, I would download this rom again, check md5 and flash it. Bet your problems go away... Good luck, Merry Christmas..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
OK downloaded and will flash soon. What is this mobo..something apk that keeps DL ing when I go to the dev host site? Also what's the best md5 check app?

Merry Christmas to u 2!

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Ran md5checker and the DL I used first and the one I just dl'd match up. So if the md5 is good then it should be OK and the new version won't matter right?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Link to blasphemy kernel? I did a search but came up empty handed..
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
Look in the original development for the kernels. Blasphemy has his own thread.. Hopefully your md5 will match up, any one app will work, I use md5 checker myself!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2416620
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Flashed Mokee ROM 4.3.1 same way and with same gapps and modem and everything is working with my phone info showing correctly. Seems that for me this ROM doesn't work for some reason.. Is the digital clock with weather widget available as an apk that will run on another ROM? Or should I re flash and extract the apk to reload it? If anyone has it or can do a quick titanium backup please let me know ;)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
I believe you are talking about this one? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dvtonder.chronus
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Perfect! Thank you!

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Is it possible to have a dialer like the one used on the project x Roms? I really like the way it combines contacts and dialer together and the in call record feature. Would be awesome on here!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Did you try a apk push?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
For the dialer? Not yet because I haven't flashed or extract the apk.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
Are you talking about the dialer in the Touchwiz version of Project X?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] 1mp4c:
Yes. I assume that it won't work due to the different versions of roms but I'm curious why and if there is a way to make one like it or to make it work? I'd b willing to test it if so.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
You'd have to have the know-how to decompile an APK and edit some code to port the dialer. I'm sure there's more to it, though.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
4.2.2

Running revolt 4.2.2, (4g not important but nice to have) just a solid performer and battery use is awesome. My DD for weeks now. And that's unusual for me. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] beutrocks:
4g?

Does WiMAX work after flashing know 4.2?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
4.3 and 4.4 and anything else that comes later will not have Wimax. It has been removed by Google. 4.2.2 and below have Wimax.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] coco1969:
Wimax
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] NavalFluff:
So I just installed the latest nightly, and everything was going smoothly until I tried to send an MMS. I know most roms have mms issues and that's fine but usually mms just won't send/receive but now I get an error that says "service not activated on this network". I could send MMS just fine on CM 10.2, should I pull the .xml file from that rom and push it to this one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
I'm trying to download the ROM file but instead, all links lead to Mobogenie. Why do I need that to get this rom? It's much easier for me to download directly to my phone if I can.

Even downloading on my computer requires additional downloads. I'm not a fan of that. I should be able to download the files I need without jumping through lots of hurdles.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
You don't, it's essentially an ad, just hit cancel or the back button
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Is it a dev host issue?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cajunlibra:
That's what I'm thinking. Clicking cancel did not give me the file. Every time I clicked one of the download links, I got something I didn't want.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
Yes, DevHost is really pushing MoboGenie for some reason. Like I said, just hit cancel. The actual download link is the smallest black bar in the middle. I went to AFH cuz of all the ads on DH.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Shadow_God:
DH is getting ridiculous with that dang MoboGenie ad...:p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
Definitely... One time it downloaded that app twice with my other download.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] erikalin:
Congrats on the 1500+ downloads of your latest stable nightly build.

Sorry for the 69 thanks in the OP. Lol.

Dev Host has been hopeless lately with the crapware hidden in the faux download links... I understand "gotta make a livin'" but deception isn't cool, IMO.

Cheers.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hazedabeast:
Lol thanks... soon revolt will be 4.4 but the dev wants to take it slow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jjayno2003:
Never mind got it .Does Bluetooth work on here cause ive tried to connect mine and it won't find it any one has this problem
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jjayno2003:
Every time I go to dial a number to try n save the contact it says contacts has stopped workin any one no why?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mucky:
Am I missing the download for 4.3? The only link was to 4.2.2. I installed it and had no data. Do I also need to flash a JB modem coming from GB27?

Also, can I just odin into EL26/29 and flash this ROM, coming from GB27?

Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
The link for 4.3 is under the stable link. You'll need an ICS modem for working data. I believe you can flash from EL29.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mucky:
All I see is "Last stable 4.2 nightly"

And where would I find ICS modems. There don't seem to be any in the development section, and none in the modem repository

Thanks for the help
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
ROM: http://d-h.st/rtx

Modems: http://www.rwilco12.com/downloads.p... Galaxy S2 (Sprint) (SPH-D710)/Modems/ICS/ZIP
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] mucky:
Thanks. I thought the ALPHA link was the one, but really didn't see anything about 4.3

And thanks for the link to the modems