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[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
hi im new to the desire hd forums and im stuck on downgrading from gingerbread 2.3.5 sence 3.0 i dont no if its the updated 2.3.5 or came shipped with 2.3.5 i bought the hanset with that stock rom so ive created a gold card and yet i still cant downgrade with the pg98.img thing and i cant unlock bootloader root or anything with easyaccsesroottool any help would be great im normaly good with this stuff but ive hit a brickwall
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Downgrading and gold cards are for AAHK (or for manual S-Off). AAHK is retired, so unless you want to S-Off manually, you should unlock your bootloader instead. What error messages did you get with the Easy Ace Root Tool (which is an unlock tool, not an S-Off tool)? What does your hboot say? Also, please use more understandable punctuation and capitalization. It makes it easier for us to understand, and therefore help, you.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Sorry im not that good with my grammer.

Im on newst hboot 2.0 and when i use easy accses root tool it goes fine until the when it downloads hboot and when it trys to install it says i need to update yet im on 3.1.3.707.4

And sorry agen about my puctuation i wasnt that good at skool with my writeng :p
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glevitan:
2.0 is not an hboot version...it might be 2.00.0029 or 2.00.0027 but not 2.0. If your Build version is not supported at the moment, then you should create a goldcard and flash a ruu which build version is supported as stated in the OP of the tool.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Im on 2.0.0.0.27 so just a gold card and latest ruu?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] glevitan:
not the lastest but one that works with HTCDEV will be just fine.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
well i cant get at my token so i cant use htc dev ive tryed everything now i have the android sdk and everything and it still wont let me do out couldnt even use accses root tools program and when i fastboot for token its not linking to c:\android with the stuff in side it how do i link them?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Before you can get token, you must update the bootloader first.

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I'm yet to read this method in dhd forums....

Here's a little trick I learned over in legend forum (thanks to blay0), from the downloaded exe file, run it, then find the Rom.zip file extracted to temp folder.

Rename Rom.zip to PD98IMG.ZIP put it in root of sd card, reboot to bootloader, should then want to update system just say yes.

This is the method I updated my dhd hboot. No need to go through all the nonsense that ruu does ;)
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
well how do i update bootloader and wich stock rom is latest i havent a clue lol
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
any body please help i cant do **** it wont let me get the token for htcdev???? wat am i doing wrong or should i just give up on the desire hd
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Did you create a goldcard and update your bootloader like glevitan said? You can't unlock until you have a bootloader that supports unlocking.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
i dont even no wich stock rom to use for the upgrade i no about goldcard but wich stock rom please help
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Just use the latest unbranded one. If you have a goldcard you don't need to find your phone's specific one.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
ive just done gold card and tryed to up date with this RUU_Ace_Gingerbread_S_HKCSL_CHT_2.37.832.6_Radio_12.54.60.25_26.09.04.11_M2_release_193200_signed and it still wont let me downgrade or upgrade its pissin me rite off wats going rong?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Wait, what? What happened? Were there error messages? The RUU won't run?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
ruu runs then says up dating signature then it says error 140 bootloader version error then it goes on to say the ruu cannot update your android phone

please get the correct ruu and try again p.s click exit to quit lol but serious av bin at this 2 days solid and i havent got no where
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Well heres some info im on 2.3.5 sence 3.0 build number is 3.1.3.707.4 and hboot is 2.00.00.27 and i still cant update or downgrade
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Are you sure you have a goldcard...?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Well ive dun it 2 ways 1 wiv hex edititor and the other was with simple gold card creater
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
ive got a ruu just for the hboot 2.00.00.29 cant i just use that as a pd98img.zip if not wich stock ruu that has the 2.00.00.29 hboot thanks
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Do you mean only renaming the exe, if so, no you can't just to that, you need to start the install process let the program extract its temp files, then you need to search for rom.zip in a temp folder on you hard drive some where (each computer is different so i can't tell you exactly where) then rename rom.zip to PD98IMG.ZIP put it in root of sd card and reboot into bootloader, it should find the PD98IMG.ZIP and ask to install...
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
sorry for being a noob but can somone convert this for me to a PD98IMG.ZIP please ive bin at this for 3 days nearly now and im so frustrated lol
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xZeroMancerx:
Just use 7Zip to compress it into a zip than sign it ?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
i need it as a PD98IMG.zip so i can upgrade my hboot if it works

and an update i still cant downgrade or upgrade and i have created a gold card 4 times now on three diffrent sd cards still dont no wat the problem is and its getting frustrating me to the max lmao
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
Why can't you just put the phone in fastboot and run the RUU?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
ive tryed but still doest work and my build number is higher if thats any help
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
What doesn't work? Are there any error messages? What RUU and where did you get it? What build number? Higher than what? What exactly are the steps you are trying to take?

I am thisclose to giving up because of your continuous lack of details.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Soz man ive bin trying to run the hboot 2.00.00.29 ruu but it gives me error 190 when i run ruu wich is im not on latest stock as the ruu put as 3.13.707.3 yet when i look my phone the build is 3.13.707.4 so i assume that my stock rom is higher or newer than the hboot corresponds to.

my stock rom is the aisa 2.3.5 sence 3.0

Ive read for 3days at diffrent guides and tutorials to downgrade or upgrade my hboot so i can unlock bootloader and s-off etc etc but i cant ive tryed goldcard to downgrade with no sucses so i keep hiting brickwalls i should of been much clearer and for that im sorry

My info is

Im s-on

Sence 3.0 2.3.5 asia wwe

Hboot is 2.00.00.27

Build num 3.13.707.4

Its very difficult to achieve wat i want with this device but with my other android handsets it was easy and ive had 3 htc's before the HD

Hope this clears things up abit :D:thumbup:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xZeroMancerx:
I wasn't sure if aahk was ever intended for all HTC devices but I came from a very simple phone that was easily rooted with gingerbreak.. An app that chainfire created..and to be honest, I don't understand what your trying to do..maybe if I'm wrong, banana will tell me but you can get root without s-off..AFAIK s-off allows your to flash different radios and other miscellaneous things...it doesn't appear to me that you have an advanced understanding of android processes, maybe I'm wrong...go to ace think tank and read it 4 times and keep asking questions if you don't understand something..or try to better explain what it is you want ? Are you just wanting root and to flash custom ROMs ?

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Try this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2206897

Than go to DHD general thread and you'll see Ace Think Tank, read the first page over and over and over again..maybe gletivan or guyincorner or tech will team view with you..
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bananagranola:
No idea. Your ROM is the newest but your hboot isn't. The only person who might know what RUU to use is glevitan.
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
i just want to install custom rom but i cant update my hboot to unlock bootloader
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Ok, here it is......

if you cant do it now....sorry I cant help anymore.

Once you have done this, you NEED to go back to the htcdev website and follow ALL

the Instructions for unlocking from step 8 onwards including the steps they send to you via email with the attached file called

Unlock_code.bin, DO NOT LOOSE THIS FILE, EVER!

look after it like it was a $1000 note!

Maybe if you are successful you might want to try to S-OFF your phone on this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2221039
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
brilliant my hboot has upgraded but now it wont let me get identifier token for htcdev bootloader unlock
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Well? You going to elaborate with your error?

Is your phone in fastboot mode?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Hi i have finaly flashed a custom rom and thanks to everybody that helped but even more of a thank you for bein patient with me so thanks again to everybody :thumbup::thumbup:
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ranger4740:
Well done to you.

Are you going to try the s-off?
[Desire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Yup dam rite s-off here we come :D
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
INFO

I am planning on creating a post that has the best advice for charging, achieving better battery life, calibrating batteries, etc.

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[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Let's start off with calibrating battery tips. What do you think you need to do to properly calibrate a battery?

Here is what I think is required:

1. Charge phone to 100%

2. Discharge to 0%

3. Let phone sit for 5 minutes

4. Plug it in without turning the phone on

5. Charge without break to 100%

6. Repeat 2-3 times
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
No problem. Please post advice about batteries if you have any.
[General Topics] ddjonko:
For non rooted phones, users should lower the screen brightness, screen uses the biggest amount of battery.

Gps, haptic feedback, data should be turned off when not in use.

Also users can install auto task killers that auto kill processes/apps thus saving the battery.

With android assistant +18 app you can also do that and also disable the start up of certain apps, so they aren't on since you turn on the phone.

For rooted phones, Greenify app can lower the battery battery usage by fiddling with app processes.

Ill edit if I rememember anything else.

Sent from my MIUI powered Optimus L5.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Thank you for the advice. No offence, but I heard task killers are bad. I heard that Android kills task in a more effective way if it needs more memory. I also heard that killing tasks require battery to do so. Is this true?
[General Topics] ddjonko:
Task killers are great if you have a lot of running apps, they work good for me, set them to kill every 30 mins and you dont have to worry if you left an app running in background.

When the battery life is in question, the little things also matter :)

Sent from my MIUI powered Optimus L5.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Okay.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Please tell your friends about this post, everybody. We should put as much info here as possible.
[General Topics] chaz_oca:
I use the DS Battery Saver on my rooted Note 2 with Jellybomb Rom.... I get just shy of 48hrs use
[General Topics] zelendel:
Your right task killers are pointless on Android. When you kill something android normally just restarts it (depending on what it is) It also takes more to restart it then it does to leave it be.
[General Topics] spaazm:
Take a look at Greenify app. It hibernates your apps on the fly. Meaning they're frozen until you need them. It prevents power drainage done by Facebook or Maps, and others badly written, yet useful from time to time apps.

It really does make a difference on your battery life.

On the other hand task killers are useless since Jelly Beans, as it handles memory management in other way. Low Memory Killer values are dynamic, changed by OS according to your usage odd the phone. Killing apps does nothing else but force them be run again according to their schedule, which results in bigger battery drain and to top it all task killer needs power as well.

Just my 2 cents from a noob. ;)

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[General Topics] zelendel:
I dis try the app for while. But as I don't use alot of apps like maps. (Got a GPS for that) Facebook I only use from time to time and have no issues with it effecting battery life. I normally get around 36 hours on a single charge.

Wayne Tech S-III
[General Topics] spaazm:
It does sound like a good battery life, but I bet if would look at your wakelocks you'll find Facebook among top of them. Even if you use it just from time to time it wakes your phone to often in my opinion.

As some user of XDA once stated: "Facebook is one evil app". ;)

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[General Topics] zelendel:
Of course, I would expect it to. It needs to check for updates. That is to be expected.

Wayne Tech S-III
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Here is charging tips. Please correct me if I am wrong.

NORMAL USE

1. Charge when >50%

2. Charge until 100%

HEALTHY CHARGE (Every month or so)

1. Discharge to >20%

2. Charge until 100%

Make sure to take your case off, it will generate extra heat that is bad for your battery.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Thank you for contributing everyone.
[General Topics] alex1453:
Follow the method of full charge and full discharge. Don’t put your phone on charging when there is the battery remaining it for another few hours unless it’s very important. Charge it when your battery is about to get totally discharged and when you put it for charging, let it get charged totally.
[General Topics] jonniboi1985:
Is it not bad to allow your battery to run down to 0%?

Only i've read of certain handsets not being able to boot due to this. :confused:
[General Topics] ddjonko:
Its actually healthy if you get it to full charge after that, laptop batteries are also kept healthy with that method.

Sent from my MIUI powered Optimus L5.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
You are referring to calibrating or charging?
[General Topics] brecklundin:
Deleted due to fat fingers...appologies for the gaff...need to buy the Swiftkey full version cuz i Stink with softkey keyboards on my phone.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Would you guys say shutting down your phone every night would be good for the battery?
[General Topics] samjeremia:
heilll over

from my research, they said Li-ion based battery can't be fully charged. just charge as you need. is that correct guys? and you might wanna search for the proper battery saver app. for me I am using one where it connect to the internet once in 5 minute. it should do the tricks
[General Topics] Sithdown:
From my experience, charging phone battery 2-3 times a day (those busy days when you don't let your phone relax) are the worst treatment you can do to a phone. Just let it drain before plugging it, or the battery life will shorten a lot.
[General Topics] Sanjay:
Why does some battery will become fat,is it due to over charging?

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SENT FROM MONSTER ! ! !

HIT THANX OR I WILL JUST

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[General Topics] guilhermoaraujo:
there's an app called Greenify
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
I'm sorry, I do not understand your question.
[General Topics] zelendel:
This happens if the cells inside the battery start to expand. I would replace the battery as you dont want them to rupture and cause any issues.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
How do you prevent this issue? Is this issue caused by charging incorrectly?
[General Topics] zelendel:
There is no real way to prevent it as many things can be the cause. Bad Battery, Using charger that is far to powerful for the device ect.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Thank you, zelendel.
[General Topics] Vauvenal7:
Quick question:

Is it bad for the batterylife to charge it completely up to 100%, thus the battery is under high tension.

And I heard it is bad for the battery to be kept in high tension.

Also: thank you all for greenify, never heard of it..now glad I did :D

Greets Vauvenal7

Sent from my MyTouch 4G Slide
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
No, your phone will never let it stay at 100%. It will stop charging then charge again. Just don't leave it charging over night.
[General Topics] spaazm:
I'm guessing it would not have any measurable effect on your battery condition. Although from what I've heard batteries can deteriorate during long periods of rest (unused), one night is not nearly enough to face it.

And yes, you would benefit a bit from doing it, because in the morning your battery will have 5% more juice. With a decent ROM and kernel, under right governor, it could unfortunately be only 1-2%.

The answer seems almost too obvious, so I'm wondering if it wasn't a tricky question. One of those hidden bottom questions. Was it? ;)

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[General Topics] immortalneo:
A little something about task killers:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=27560775

"To err is human, to forgive is divine"

Sent from my SGS II
[General Topics] Vauvenal7:
To the last part of this post (thanks for sharing, will now stop using advanced task killer^^) where it says: charge everywhere and as much as you can; isn't that actually bad for the battery, because the ions get pushed from one charge state to the other (Li -> Li+) and some of them kinda don't go with the flow like the other ions, meaning they stay useless for getting energy.

I mean the reason how the batterylife is counted in charging circles is this (at least I thought so)

Hope I wrote the text somehow understandable

Greets Vauvenal7

Sent from my MyTouch 4G Slide
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Good job guys! It makes me happy to see everyone getting together to share information.
[General Topics] spaazm:
I got a question that bothers me since I can remember.

What is the impact on battery condition if you recharge it over night?

I mean it usually takes 3-4 hours to charge it completely, but nights tend to be longer. So your phone is charged to 100%, charging is being switched off, but when your battery drops to 99% charging starts again. That pattern is repeated on and on until you unplug your phone in the morning.

It surely isn't healthy, but is it such a big deal?

My knowledge is just to scarce to answer this, so I would appreciate any help.

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[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Doing it once or twice probably is not a big deal. However, if you do it daily, that is bad.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
What is your opinion on Battery Calibration by NéMa?

Would you guys say it is a good substitute for calibrating manually?
[General Topics] Zeuscluts:
Never Prefer Any App to Calibrate Your Battery

Never Prefer Any App to Calibrate Your Battery

1.battery should be charged when it's near or on 20%

2.Always charge complete Without Break.

3.Randomely Have Tickle Charging To Maintain the battery Liquidity.

4 . Never charge here and then Charger.

ALWAYS TRY to use the original charger which came with it.

Beacause every charger has different Current.

5.Switch of data or Airplane Mode.

When you are traveling. Beacuse traveling will cause the network fluctuations and with battwey fluctuations to.

6 . Once a month ahave full recycled.

I.e., Complete charge and then discharge.

Ans rhen full charged in Power Off Mode.

This will always keep your battery calibrated
[General Topics] brecklundin:
Nice tip on airplane mode. That part is new for me so neat I read how it affects power consumption. :)

Likely dictated, not typed, on my LG Motion ICS 4.0 .4 with Tapatalk
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
So it's best to calibrate manually?
[General Topics] Zeuscluts:
Yes
[General Topics] brecklundin:
Though most folks here probably are aware of his link I'm posting for those who don't.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

The site has basically solid info on Li-ion & Li-poly batteries as well as other battery tech.

Likely dictated, not typed, on my LG Motion ICS 4.0 .4 with Tapatalk
[General Topics] jitkr:
Calibrating battery increases battery wear level. It means less charge will be stored. Means decreasing battery capacity. I did lots of search asked my teachers they told yes it does. I calibrated only one battery in my life 3 times its wear level from 3% reached to approx 22%, just lost 22% capacity(unusable portion).
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Calibrating is not bad. However, calibrating more often then every month or so is bad.

http://www.droidforums.net/forum/motorola-droid-2/172103-battery-calibration-bad-your-device.html

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1104194

Also, is using the delete battery stats in CWM or TWRP an effective calibrating method?
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Can someone please reply to my question?
[General Topics] FtGreg:
I listen that it depends of kinf of battery. Some tipes you must not to charge whem they have many charge another you can charge, In the case of the lithium batteries I think we must charge when the battery have at minimim 10% to 20% of charge (never left below this level) and we can charge any time because these kind of battery ( lithium) don't get addicted.

Sorry my english, I hope you understand what I try to explain

Greg
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Question to everyone: What is the best battery calibration method? When should you calibrate the battery? Whatever post gets the most thanked will be on The Battery Thread post.
[General Topics] Lim Wee Huat:
Just to share, once in a while, I do use my 0.8A phone charger to charge my Nexus 7 and 10 tablets.. It's definitely very slow charging but it helps condition its battery a bit. Its' battery do last slightly longer too.:)
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
So you are suggesting that using a slower charger is better? Like charging via USB?
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Apparently, Battery Doctor says that charging with the outlet is better. However, I do understand what you are trying to say. I'm guessing it is better because maybe it puts less stress on the battery when charging slower. Then again, I doubt the smartphone companies make a charger that ruins the battery.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Who would say undervolting is an effective way to save battery?
[General Topics] jonniboi1985:
It's very effective way of watching a boot loop.lol

Sent from my badboi dual booting s3 @1.704ghz.
[General Topics] TimeAndroid:
Omg very effective. It's very entertaining when I get a bootloop.