yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] moto1:
2003 upgrade And 3.17.03

Well I finally got mine to take the upgrade. :D Since I had downloaded XDA's 3.14.03 rom/sim unlock the upgrade wouldn't work through the USB port. So I went to Yorch's kitchen and got a previous T-moble rom that was a downgrade (3.14.40) then went back to the t-moble and got their 2003 download and it worked! I now have rom 4.01.16, radio 6.25.02 and 2003. All I need now is a SIM unlock that will work with 2003, or get the serial cable and go back to Yorch's and build a rom with the sim-unlock and without all of the other programs that a non-programmer needs.

I'll open to anyone's input on this.

David in Boulder :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
Are you sure it's not still unlocked?

Look here: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6813
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] moto1:
unlock

You're right, it is unlocked. But I did lose the option for changing the setting. is their a download just for that?

David
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
By "changing the setting" do you mean set a new SIMLock code? I saw that this is in the Special Edition ROM but don't have any idea why you'd need it.

For what it's worth there's no option to relock a phone when TMobile sends you the unlock code.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] martona:
Hey guys, I downloaded it but I don't feel like upgrading, primarily because I just did the 1.60.00 upgrade a day or two ago, and I really don't want to reinstall everything again.

I have a question, I'm new to this, please humor me: If I do a full backup before upgrading, then do a restore after, will that work? Logic says probably not as it would overwrite the \windows directory and everything, but I'm hoping that it's not the case. Anyone>
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] nickpope:
martona

This upgrade is for the Wallaby aka XDA device. It sounds like you have a XDAII - you should not attempt this upgrade.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] daveeckert:
Just FYI, sorry if this was already posted somewhere.

I've been playing with beta ROMs, but stayed with the SD method, so I've kept my 5.15 bootloader.

I decided that since this is the official update, and I've already fried my radio once, I was going to do it "by the book".

I used the T-Mobile install program for the entire update. Afterward, I was curious and checked my Wallaby version after I was finished. It is 5.15.

I wonder why they had all of those other versions that they decided not to use?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] martona:
Nickpope,

Thanks! It probably wouldn't have worked anyway... but saves me the hassle. I do have an XDA II (A T-Mobile MDA II).

But my original question still stands: Can I do a backup/restore before/after a ROM upgrade? Or should I be prepared to reinstall everything?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Biso007:
Can you plz tell the neccessary settings for Yahoo and maybe for Hotmail as well ?

The auto configuration works for Yahoo but the password is claimed not to be correct.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
I think you need to be subscribed to "Yahoo Plus" in order to have POP3 access to Yahoo Mail. If the setup is correct but you can't get in this might be your most likely problem.

But here are the Yahoo! settings for inbox:

Email address: Use your full Yahoo email address, eg 'Biso007@yahoo.com

Your Name: Whatever you like here. Used in the "from" field of your outgoing mail

Username: Yahoo login name

Password: Yahoo password

Ensure that the box "Save password" is checked so the phone can automatically check your mail.

Account Type: POP3

Name: Yahoo

Incoming Mail: pop.mail.yahoo.com

Outgoing Mail: smtp.mail.yahoo.com

Domain (leave blank)

Under "options":

Connect and check for messages every _60_ minutes (this is the max interval allowed)

Connection: The Internet

Check: Outgoing e-mail server requires authentication

Uncheck: Require SSL connection

Check: Only Display message from last _3_ days (what ever you want here)

Get Message headers only; Include 3k

That's how my settings are. Obviously you can check your mail more frequently or download all of every message (but I think my settings are best for me).
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Biso007:
Many thanks ... you are right ... POP3 is a premiume service from Yahoo :oops:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] sirseymore:
I just downloaded the upgrade and while the date on the download appears new, the file is the old version? What gives? Did they take it down already? The date on the Nk file is 11/27/02...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
Psst... Look here under "PocketPC Phone Edition": http://software.se.t-mobile.com/
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] bugglebum:
The Upgrade !

Hello All,

Been reading the site for ages for tips and tricks. It's absolutley wonderful.... and now I have run into some trouble trying to upgrade my device and was hoping some of you geniuses could assist. I will probably ask some questions that have been answered yonks ago, but please bear with me. Here goes.

First Question - UK o2 sim free on vodafone network. Radio- 4.21, rom -3.17.03. I would like to upgrade to wm2003 keeping the same radio obviously. Got the t-mobile download thanks to some of you publishing a cell number. Whats the best of cleanly upgrading to t-mobile wm2003 ?

Second question - I think I killed 256mb SD yesterday. I ran the XDAtools with my device in the cradle, trying to copy the NK.nbf to the SD. Was that a mistake ? The device now asks me to format it before it can use it. I have a SD reader on the way anyway. Is the data lost on the SD ?

I am only a novice with the XDA, been using ordinarily for 2 years and would like to start playing. Any help would be great. Looking forward to many more SOS calls to you all.

Regards

Russ
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
Yes you lost all the data on your SD card, but you did a succesfull copy of the nk.nbf however.

If you insert the SD in your device and go to the bootloader (Press and hold the power/standby button and press reset with the stylus) it will ask to update the ROM (press the 'action' button, the middle button of the 'joypad') You will lose all your data on your device however! So you have to reinstall all your apps, if you have synced your device with outlook you can get your task,calendar and contacts back after the update however.

And through this SD card method of upgrading you will keep your original radio update.

So I hope I helped you a little further.

Good luck.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] dukunmagic:
Re: Inbox turns XDA on? BACK to ATT ROM...

Well, I also experience the same problem. The device turn on sometime by itself. I even dont set any automatic mail retrieve. I think it is a bug in the ROM. It is very annoying for me when the device is in my pocket and turned on, it could dial any number by accident. :(((

I decided to get back to the ATT ROM 30.09, the increasing sound problem is not quite a problem for me since I set the device to vibrate.

Actually, does the SD card erasure can be fixed by labelling the SD Card ?[/b]
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] GregP74:
Re: Inbox turns XDA on? BACK to ATT ROM...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ebswift:
As discovered by MrDollyMaker, use a program called storagetools, label the SD and use the "Backup FAT" option and format the card. Nobody has reported an erasure using this method with 4.01.00. The same should apply for .16.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] GregP74:
Hmmm I downloaded and installed storagetools. Didn't see an option for labeling. I did format and use FAT backup, then set volume label on the pc's sd card reader though. Should that do it?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] siliconaddict:
T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM on my Dutch 32MB XDA

I am running the U.S. T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM with European O2 Radio version 4.21 on my Dutch 32MB XDA at the moment. Installed it via the boot loader/SD card method. Works OK. This ROM does not have the volume bug like the Siemens/AT&T ROM, but unfortunately the memory leak still is there (like in every other WM2003 ROM I have tried so far). A soft reset every day fixes that (sort of). The T-Mobile junk will not be loaded if you remove the Battery Monitor app from the startup. So all in all I am pretty satified with this WM2003 version. But I think it is about time that O2 releases their own WM2003 upgrade. :evil: Or will it be WM2004? Or WM2005? :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ajkett:
Re: T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM on my Dutch 32MB XDA

Cool... but will this not remove the battery monitor itself!?

I have 0 hope that O2 will ever release an upgrade to 2003... in the meantime, we just have to put up with other manufacturers logo's and tit-bits scattered around the ROM.

No one found a solution to the volume limiting yet on the ATT rom? balls.

Tony.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Biso007:
You can delete the files VBattary.exe and VStream.exe from the \Windows directory ... but after a hard reset you will find them back :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ajkett:
Cheers Biso007,

Nice tip.

I'll be doing that tonight :)

tony.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] bamse:
Re: T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM on my Dutch 32MB XDA

The battery monitor in the startup folder seems to be a TMobile app, so it probably wont matter if it is not started. I haven't seen it in any other ROM from any other manufacturer.

/b
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] hb88xx:
don't see teh build button

Ans he is already away for 4 weeks? :cry:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] bamse:
Re: don't see teh build button

Try again, it'll work eventually.

/b
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
Re: don't see teh build button

Here's a mirror site - much less busy:

http://xda.weblink.net/
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] siliconaddict:
Re: T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM on my Dutch 32MB XDA

If you create a cooked ROM in LumpiStefan's kitchen, you can add the O2 boot screen. Which I did, so now I have an official O2 WM2003 ROM he he he :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ebswift:
Yeah, that'd do it.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] JUICEe:
TMO shoulda waited longer

I see alota of ppl having the problm with the xda turning on...lol, im very familiar with this problm...but this time, i have a prblm that is almost the opposite...

the ghost affect was an issue with the previous tmo betas...but it was not a prblm with att's latest rom

I have a different issue with my newly upgraded rom from tmo:

everything works fine

...except :shock:

wen i press the power button to turn the xda back on, it wont do anything at all

the button works to turn back light off, and to turn the unit off, but not back on

Im about to try with sum other Roms, but has any one eperienced this issue, or might know what might be causing it? (additional soft)?...maybe I dropped it too many times?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] manher:
HELP!!! My 1800 band lose!!

Please help me....

I have upgraded my XDA with 4.01.16 ENG and accidentally I went to phone options and tab to "Band".. now my 1800 band lose...

Anyone can help me???

I am using radio version 4.06 for asian, any other way to get my 1800 band work again??

In addition:

1. Anyone have wireless modem program so I can install it to my XDA?

2. How to add disconnect option when we have connected to GPRS?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] cbrow51:
WM2003 Upgrade Problem

HELP!!!... Need some advice on how to resolve some WM2003 upgrade problems. The story so far... Downloaded the new upgrade from the t-mobile sw site and ran it. Half way through the radio stack upgrade the install stalled and kept retrying. Called t-mobile 3rd level help desk, who told me to disconnect the USB and hard reset the device!! Bad advice as I ended up with a white screen and no OS at all!

After much reading in this forum, I downloaded XDATools and copied the WM2003 NK.nbf file to a 64mb SD card. I used the bootlaoder (V5.15) to copy the file from the SD card into the devices memory. Got a good check sum and the did a soft reset. The device reooted into the t-mobile screen (red lettering on white background) the version number in bottom right corner seemed to indicate the new WM2003 version number, but it took more that 10 minutes before the OS came up. When it finally comes up it is WM2003, but there does not appeear to be any radio stack present at all Also the power / status LED does not show any light at all and when I unplug from mains power, the device dies.. I did manage to sync the device to outlook, but active sync seems unreliable. At this point i tried to re run the upgrade via active sync to see if I could add the radio, but it stalls at the point where the device resets itself prior to the radio being installed/upgraged.

At this point I am open to suggestions.... I would like to try and install the new radio stack separately, but cant seem to find any instructions in any of the posts, that explains how I can do this. Any help would be much appreciated!! I asm afraid I might have an expensive door stop on my hands :cry:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Startup:
Cbrow51:

you're actually not in that bad a shape.

The problem you are having is because your radio stack is messed up. You definitely got bad advice from tech support.

To update the stack you simple copy 4 files into the windows directory:

monitor_ul_bs.m0

monitor_ul_bs.map

RSUpgrade.cp64

RSUpgrade.exe

They can be found in \program files\ruu\english directory. It is put there as a staging location for the update process.

Run the program RSUpgrade.exe and wait till it finished, soft reset and you're good to go.

Startup.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ronin:
First of all :

Go to

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274&highlight=radio+stack

Then and I must give it proper credit to MrDollyMaker do this and you should be ok: ( PS: I have used this method to upgrade at least 55 devices and have not had a single fail...)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] cbrow51:
Start Up

Many thanks!!. One clarification. Do I copy the files into the windows directory of the XDA and run it from there? If yes, should I get the file there via the SD card?

Many Thanks!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Startup:
Cbrow51:

I looked at that after I posted it and realized how ambigious it was. I appologize. You indeed need to copy it to the PDA's Window's directory. The SD card will work as the transfer medium if you want, you should be able to sync and get it over there that way.

Startup.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] bamse:
Re: HELP!!! My 1800 band lose!!

You can change it back in the boot-loader. There is a thread around here somewhere going through it more in detail.

/b
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] cbrow51:
StartUp

THANKYOU!!!! I am up and running. Fantastic!!! Pehaps t-mobile should consider using this forum as their 3rd level help desk!! Thanks again!!

Regards

Cbrow51
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
Re: HELP!!! My 1800 band lose!!

1800 band: try a cold boot; there also may be a way to change the settings in the bootloader.

Wireless Modem: I don't know.

Disconnect GPRS: Press and HOLD the Red "Hang Up" button. After 3 or 4 seconds the GPRS should disconnect. But it might reconnect if Internet Explorer is still running in the background...

The version you installed is intended for North America. North American XDA's don't have the 1800 MHz option, and on T-Mobile GPRS is a flat rate for unlimited data - so they didn't bother with a "disconnect GPRS" button.

You might want to consider installing a European ROM verision, you can find one or two here:

http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/ (Germany site) or http://xda.weblink.net/ (Canadian site with the same program as the first one)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] emm053:
(4.20.1081)error message....???

i did it!!i can t believe i managed to upgrade to the new t-mobile rom using xdatools without any problem.it went smooth like a glass of oil and now it reads:

ROM Version 4.01.16 ENG

ROM Date 02 04 04

Radio Version 4.21.00

Well done to me( ...and all those people working hard behind this site)!!

it was much less problematic and complicated than i expected and i d like to say to all newbies and not expert people same as me that if i managed to do that, everyone can.just spend an hour or two reading through all the posts in this forum and you ll learn how to do it.

Question: as soon as i soft reset my device there is this error message coming up in the today screen:"This program only works with windows mobile 2003 (4.20.1081).now what program is it referring to?if i press ok to that error window to close the message everything works fine and i don t really know where the error is.has anyone experienced the same?

thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] JasonLP:
Re: (4.20.1081)error message....???

Yes, I found the same problem. After a little trial and error, I found that the file wm03hotfix.exe in the Windows\Startup folder was the culprit. I moved this file out of Startup into a backup location (just in case), and the problem went away.

Don't know what this file is supposed to do, but I guess we don't need it.

-Jason-
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] auburnham:
WM2003 Upgrade back on T-Mobile's Web Site

http://www.t-mobile.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/download_popup.asp

Is this still 4.16.01? If not...TO THE KITCHEN!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
Re: WM2003 Upgrade back on T-Mobile's Web Site

4.01.16, Yes.

I looked inside the downloaded file with WinRAR and all of the included files have the same date & time as the previous 4.01.16 release that was pulled back...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] manher:
Thanks... I got my 1800 band again!

Thanks to bamse and pdhenry.....

now I can use my 1800 sim card again by using the menu in the bootloader... it's GREAT!!!

To disconnet the GPRS also work fine by pressing and hold red button phone....

But I am still looking the wireless modem program to activate my XDA as a GSM/GPRS modem so I can connect it with my PC....

Anyone have URL link to download the program??
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] jayjay06:
Well I upgraded my sx-56 with a cooked tmobile 4.01.16 from http://xda.weblink.net/ and extracted the RSU upgrade from the tmobile update and now I have the 6.25.02 radio. I must admit I was holding my breath when I did the RSUupgrade. I just hope I get better tmobile service now with my sx56!! Thanks for all the helpful posts.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] telegurus:
Re: WModem?

Got the No answer from a private reply. Can someone try the download posted at thread

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=27042#27042

and report to us the result?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] CXM:
Upgrade Failed

I have a Pocket PC Phone Edition from T-Mobile. Wallaby is 5.15. I tried to upgrade to the 2003 operating system. When I tried to start the upgrade, it froze. Then I started the upgrade again and it appeared to be caught in an endless loop (would get up to 95% complete and then would retry over and over).

So, basically my problem now is that the screen is white and I have a "GSM Error" when I access the bootloader. Does anyone have any ideas how to fix this (by the way, if you hadn't already guessed, I'm pretty much a newbie at all of this)?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] vjunk:
Apps Keep Shutting Down

I cooked up a ROM in the kitchen and upgraded to TMO version 4.01.16 (after upgrading the radio stack to 6.25.02). Most everything is great. My reception seems to be better now than in the past. I can make and take calls in places that I never could before!

But, I'm having a few issues:

1) Powers up by itself. I see many other people have this issue too. It seems like it powers up any time it loses or picks up a signal. I noticed it doing it a lot while I was driving and hitting some dead spots. nPop and Outlook were not running so I know that these were not the culprits. I also did not have an active GPRS connection. I can live with this problem though. It's just annoying (and I've almost made a few calls accidentally by having it in my pocket).

2) Memory leak. After using a few apps, I closed everything down. I looked at my remaining memory (Storage + Program) and I had 6.53 MB left. I did a soft reset and had 17.67 MB. Haven't looked into it too closely yet to see if it's Windows or an app. I see that others are also having this issue.

3) Programs keep shutting down. This one is really, really annoying me! Has anyone else seen this? If so, any ideas how to fix it? I have PocketNAV, MyTools, IIWPO, and PIEPlus in the StartUp folder. As soon as I do a soft boot, I exit out of PocetNAV and MyTools. I've also had this issue before I installed PIEPlus so I know that's not the culprit. Sometimes, I'll pull up IE or nPop (or another app), and it will shut down on me right away. I sometimes need to pull up the app 3-4 times before it stays up. Other times, I'll only have nPop open and be in an email. I then pull up IE. When I try to go back to nPop, it's closed! So I pull it up again. I try to go back to IE, but now it's closed! Sometimes, I'm reading an email in nPop (i.e. it's the active app), and nPop just shuts down! This happens right from a soft reset. Right after a soft reset, I have over 10 MB Program memory left, and, using PHM's Task Manager, have only 10 processes running.

Please help with this last one. It is driving me nuts!!!

Thanks in advance,

Victor
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pdhenry:
I'm wondering whether your #3 is related to your #2 (or at least related to how WM03 does memory management).

As everyone knows, the system doesn't automatically close a program when you click the "close box" (quote unquote) in the upper right crner of the screen - it just sends that program to the background. It's my understanding that the way the memory management works now is that if more RAM is required than is available it somehow chooses one or more applications to close to free up some memory. Not sure what method might be used to do this -
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] vjunk:
Thanks for the response.

That's the first thing I thought of too, but, I've watched the memory as it happens and I still have plenty free (at least 6MB of Program memory free). I've also kept an eye on the number of processes and it's never higher than 15 or so. I should be able to have at least in the high twenties before apps start getting shut down. (Right? I believe Windows Mobile 2003 can have up to 31 or 32 processes at once.)

Any more ideas anyone?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] telegurus:
My understanding is different. I have Icbar

www.freewareppc.com/utilities/icbar.shtml

up most of the time, showing what's running and what's not. If you click the circle x or box x, the program is shut down in the same way your regular Windows applications are shut down. The only way to send a running application to the background is to start a new application or to switch to another application using the start button. My very initial complaint when I bought it was that I don't know what's running and what's not. Icbar gives you the system tray and windows manager! The other complaint was that application installation and application execution consumes memory from the same pool. Now I've just got this second petpeeve out of my way, see

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=6731

However, I am not positive that Windows (2002/2003) reclaims memory correctly all the time when an application is shut down. I suspect not all the time. Sometimes I can not even make a phone call even after shutting down a (known leaky) application; I would have to soft reset to cure that. Get Icbar (free) and you can rule out the maybe's.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] jwclui:
Can I use this t-mobile WM2003 ROM for Asian XDA?

I'm a new comer and having a GSM 900/1800 Asian model ( PW10A1 ) on hand. Will it work only for GSM900 after flashing the XDA? Now I'm using a PCS1800 operator. Thanks in advance.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] telegurus:
You are right. I am too spoiled by Icbar, which changes the default behavior. And I can understand why PPC02 and WM2003 default behavior is designed so. Thanks!