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[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] eric0668:
ONE vs S4 (someone offer different viewpoint)

I have seen threads about both phones million times over, but I still need help

Are they any Samsung enthusiasts out there who would try the ONE. I am a true Samsung fan, but I have had the MyTouch 4g and Nexus One and loved both

What I would miss if I got the HTC One is:

screensize, yes not much, but the bigger the better (up to 5.5")

gorilla glass 3

maybe the health options

removable battery and sd card

not having 4.2 Jellybean

If I got the S4, here is what I would miss:

Much better build

Great sound and speakers on front

Better Display as far as ppi at least

Maybe a few others. I can look at that and see that more things are missed if I get the HTC One. However, each of those can also be more easily overlooked with external battery, apps, screen protector

What are any Samsung enthusiasts plan on getting. I would like anyone's opinion, but I figure if I get an honest one from them it will mean a little more in this situation.

Thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] nonmindo:
Just called tmo cause my order says "being processed" still, after 2 days

First rep stated that the phone is back ordered and that it is not even released, I asked her to explain how many have already received it yesterday and that some are going today to pick it up from their local UPS depot, she said "ohh your probably seeing the international version, not the t-mobile one, we arent releasing till wednesday"

Asked for supervisor

Explained everything to supervisor, she states that it is back ordered and that I would receive it when they get more in stock and that I would have to talk to sales for more info on the back order, she also stated that it was not up for sale, but it was "pre order" and that no one will be receiving the phone till after the 24th because thats when it releases, I explained this thread and she used a "canned response" (she didnt have a real answer) she said "if you didnt see it on the t-mobile site then its not real"

Transferred to Sales

Gave him my order number, he states "well unfortunately i can not help you with that order because if the order starts in a 196 or 195 its indicated that its an upgrade, you'll have to talk to CC

Explained that i talked to CC, and expalined what they said

He informed me that on friday what happened to a lot of people was that they put the phone in their cart and between the time it was put in the cart and the time they finalize purchase(matter of 30 seconds or so) it sold out and is now back ordered, I requested to cancel order so I could pick up in store on wednesday as the whole purpose was to get it before wednesday, Sales says he cant cancel the order because of upgrade and he would have to send be back to CC

Get sent back to CC and explain everything, she tells me that the phone is not back ordered (WTF?!) and that my order is fine and that I should still receive the phone tomorrow

WHAT.....THE......FFFFFFFFFF.......
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] xcharles718:
Taxes

Does anyone know if the monthly EIP payments include taxes? I'm currently considering going on the monthly EIP program and only pay the $99(of whatever would be my qualified minimum) upfront, wait a few days, and then pay the rest of the phone off. My only problems with this is that there isn't a way to get EIP on the $30 5GB plan, and that my lack of credit makes EIP a less than sure thing.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
I'm not a fan of any company but like buying gadgets. I already bought One and will be getting the S4 when it opens up for pre order. Both are awesome phones in their own right with advantages/disadvantages of its own.

If you already have the S3, then it will probably feel more of the same with updated internals and software. But with the One it is a different phone and nothing like any last years phone.

Either way you will not I wrong with any one of them. One advantage S4 has is in the accessories department if you are into it. Pretty much you will get any kind of accessory for the S4 but for One it may be limited.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dirtyhamster73:
You only pay taxes on the phone total, not the eip installments, those are interest free too.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
Yep their system is screwed up big time.. I have two orders because of the customer care rep fault and they can't cancel the dup order. So I will be receiving 2 orders and have to refuse one and wait for the phone to go back to TMobile to get my $650 back. Really I can't believe they have such a crappy system which can't cancel orders before they are shipped.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] eric0668:
Thank you. I HAD the S3, sold it, got the incredible Nexus 4, sold it so now using a 13 year old flip YIKES :silly:

At the same time, I added an extra line, bought an iphone, yes I said it. BACK the next day. Hated it

So now I can get 2 phones if I want. Frivolous since I only need one line. I could buy both...one for each line, cancel the second line since I don't need it (or keep it) and pay both EIP or sell it, not losing much money, yet having the best of both

I LOVE the build of the ONE, but the squareness also

Thanks Again
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] i23mix:
OOS?

Is this phone truly Out of Stock now on the T-Mobile site? I tried adding it through the "Upgrade this phone" option, but it shows Out of Stock (same as it was showing yesterday) :mad:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Ulukita:
Amazed!

I just got back from Best Buy. They had a working display model. The phone is nice. Thin and light with a screen that pops. The Otterbox is overkill imo for this device so I'm going to get something like the Poetic Atmosphere or cheap TPU that retains the thin profile of the device until more case choices in material and color come out.The display model for the black one was there also but just a dummy model. It's chasis still looked incredible and having seen both I would choose the black one regardless of reports of it being a fingerprint magnet or showing scratches more easily than the silver one.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] hello00:
u can't order it from tmobile website..they are out of stock
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] eric0668:
To repeat, but in case things changed, Tmo is NOT getting the black one though, are they?

I love thin cases, like the Case Mate Barely There...I had it on S3, NO WAY on the Nexus 4 and it's glass, but the One should be the most safe to have it on, with its lack of protection on top and bottom, would you agree?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Lookatthemonkeys:
I ordered my HTC One first thing on Friday morning, 04/19/13 and paid for overnight shipping so I would receive it on monday 04/22/13. I checked my order status today and it said it was cancelled. I called them and they said for "unknown reasons" it was sent to an outside team to be processed. He claimed it would ship tomorrow and I would get it Tuesday and they would refund my overnight shipping. Weird thing is I never got an email about any of this. Hopefully he is telling the truth and I will get my one on Tuesday.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dro_6o:
Heard from a Tmobile associate earlier that they would have a substantial amount of stock in Houston on Monday (said they will start selling starting Monday) and that the black version will drop at stores a week after release date..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
Quick question...Im assuming the overnight shipping is going to require a signature?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
Didn't say that on the tracking ... So might not need signature.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] thatguy52:
i had a sgs2. loved it but the power button got messed up and had the same dilemma: htc one or sgs4. tbh, i was upset when i found out the s4 basically looked identical to the s3. i was hoping for some different look. i wanted something different so i went with the htc one. i watch and listen to music a lot so the good reviews for the speakers got me. the 4 ultrapixel camera sounded lame but i realized the most time i take pictures are when im at night or inside a place with low light. so the 2nd reason for the htc one was the good quality picture in low light settings. im not worried about no sd card slot because 32gb seems enough for me and besides i can always upload old pics and music to dropbox. i am a little worried about the non-removable battery though.

if you want a lot of features and options then grab the s4. i just watched the reviews from android authority and i have to say i was actually digging the sgs4 "gimmick" features.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] eric0668:
I got a Newtrent External battery when I had the Nexus. Loved it. Some of the most inexpensive and highest quality.

http://www.newtrent.com/store/iphone-external-battery-iphone-portable-battery.html
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] mouzaihem:
So guys, the orders may include the dock even if it doesn't state so. My developer edition from UPS is shipping with a weight of 1.1 pounds, as compared to 1.9 from T-Mobile. So who knows
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] qnet:
I hope that's the case. I would really like the dock beause I use it for all my phones. I don't know what else in the Tmobile box that could make it weigh more than the Dev version so maybe there is a chance.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] milamas:
Not sure if Im understanding right but the installment payments DO include tax. You just get charged ALL of the tax in the beginning. Its 99 dollars plus like 60 dollars of tax for a one time payment of 160. So the only advantage of the installments is the 0% interest.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] mouzaihem:
Yeah, there shouldn't be that much of a weight difference, if anything they removed the headphones :p

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This is correct, I've purchased two iPhones through T-Mobile and it is $99, +$35 in fees and tax for the whole device. The monthly payment is flat no Apr $20 a month.

My One cost me $160 with the overnight shipping ($23?) And I have to pay the flat rate of $20 for 24 months.

Also for those who want the phone outright, after you purchase the phone regularly it right away gives you the option to fully pay off the "equipment plan"
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dirtyhamster73:
That's exactly what I meant, that the tax is in with the phone, not in with the eip installments. Maybe I worded it wrong.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] leohdz148:
No way bro, sounds too good to be true, im gonna have to call one of my stores and see if this is true buy I'm pretty sure they are gonna say release is on the 24, but still I'm gonna give them a call b4 I head over to one, been waiting for this in Houston and I called about 8 different stores in my area and only 1 store had no clue as to what the release date may be, but ill have to check with them tomorrow, hopefully they sell them early but more than likely not..

Sent from my HTC One S
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Pr20:
They obviously have no clue what's happening. And who knows who is lying. I ordered today and with overnight shipping. Order status says being processed with Estimated delivery date: 04/26/2013 but underneath overnight shipping method it says 4/23.

Wait and see I guess.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] smooth3d:
On the whole weight thing I just looked at my old Nexus 4 purchase from google play back in Jan, where I bought 2 Nexus 4's at the same time. 2 phones came shipped in the same box that weighed 1.9 lbs according to UPS. So it looks good that our phones weight comes in at 1.9 lbs so it may be true that its shipping with the car dock! :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] popotamus:
Is this merely from word of mouth or did they see something in their system confirming any of this? I've yet to see any leaks regarding the black version coming out and I've been following pretty closely about anything One related from T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] xcharles718:
Oh okay. Thought that you'll only be taxed for the 99. Seems like I'll be buying it in full then.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] eric0668:
Just curious, depending on state, about $42 (MD) would make you think about paying it in full?

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You know how there are some listings of "best cases..." and popular great cases like Casemate, Otter, Spigen, Rearth

Well, I want a case when I get on Wed. Are there any great cases (preferably slim) that can be found locally?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] tfriedrich_:
It says it is still being processed with an estimated delivery date of 4/29/13. I talked to a couple of ladies on the phone. One said it would ship out Monday and I will have it by Tuesday. The other said it won't ship out until after the 24th.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] nonmindo:
I had the same today
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
Hmm...you may be correct. In my two orders one which shipped with overnight says 0.80 lbs

Shipped/Billed On:04/19/2013

Type:Package

Weight:0.80 lb

The other one which shipped with ground says 1.9 lb

Shipped/Billed On:04/19/2013

Type:Package

Weight:1.90 lbs

I was planning to refuse the delivery of ground package ... now i'm bummed. I don't know why its so hard to fulfill the damn orders correctly.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
You mean in store coz all our online orders have already shipped and local store in Seattle is planning to sell from 24th. It may depend on the market you are in.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] rpmccormick:
My order status with TMO still says that it cannot find my order at all (big red letters), but I got a ship notice via email, and when I called them they gave me a UPS tracking number saying it shipped on the 19th and I get it on the 22nd (1.90lbs). Today! Still no word on the DevEdition and T-Mo from LetsTalk (and blank reloading order-status)... guess I need to cancel those tomorrow.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] mouzaihem:
Might want to call them ASAP before they ship. I asked them to cancel my dev edition order on Friday when I ordered the one from TMO and it was still shipped. Does anyone know the best way with dealing with returning it?

Is refusing the delivery the best route? I've never done it before
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] popotamus:
Good news for those with the 1.9lb packages. Those include the car dock :)

I just received my One and dock today.

*I'm an upgrade btw.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dro_6o:
As always, Rumors should be taken with a grain of salt. However, This guy seemed legit. I also called around my local shops last thursday and they were clueless about the HTC one. Since then I have not called because of my pre-order online.. If you are willing to take the drive, he works at the TMO store off hwy 59 and 36 by richmond. He said that they have the white and black demo unit and that he was instructed (by his managers?) that they will start selling the whites today and the black units a week after launch. I also asked that due to the fact that I preordered my white one online, If would I be able to take and basically return my white unit and pick up the black one in store and He said yes. He said just to make sure I go to a corporate store and they would exchange it as long as the exchange is within the 14 day remorse period (14 days within activating the new sim card).... Just spreading what I was told amongst the community. :cowboy:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] blackangst:
Ordered mine yesterday at about 11am PST...this morning shows backordered :( Sucks too coz my S2 is having major issues.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] frankd14321:
Tmobile never knows what they are talking about when it comes to HTC Phones... It's been that way since the HD2 released.... When that phone released... I went to the store the day it came out... 2 others were there to pick it up... We all asked for it and the store never even heard of it.. I told them to please check... so than they come back out and are like well here they are and didn't even know they had them. And they only had 3 in the whole store on launch day... Than as I was buying mine they asked me about it because they didn't know anything about it.. Same thing with the HD7, Sensation and One S.. Everytime I would call to see when it was shipping, or go to the store... nobody could give me a straight answer about any of them.. And every answer I got was wrong in the end..

That being said. I should find out today if it is backordered because I was able to add a new line and get the phone... I tried to upgrade all day yesterday and it kept saying out of stock... It is possible that they have a designated amount of phones reserved for Pre-orders, Upgrades, Newlines/New customers, and In store models..... My order at this time says being processed... it let me pay for it so either way i'll get it.. weather it be on the 23rd, 26th, or later..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] slugbug2010:
I'm considering switching from Sprint. I've always liked having Sprint's unlimited data plan, but looks like T-Mobile has a good and comparable plan. My question here is about their "Includes up to 500 MB of Smartphone Mobile HotSpot (SMH) service" One of the main reasons I root my phone is to unlock the Hotspot so that I can use my tablet occasionally when I'm not in a wifi area. For those of you with T-Mobile, does the 500 mb Hotspot availability seem like enough? I'm also not sure about $20/mo purchase for the phone - I don't mind having a contract. However it sounds like T-mobile has been and stronger coverage. I've grown a bit frustrated with Sprint's spotty 3g and 4g coverage in Austin and wondering if anyone can say if T Mobile is better.

Thanks!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Lookatthemonkeys:
Very sour taste in my mouth after my first experience with T-Mobile. Ordered the HTC One online on Friday morning 04/19/13. Paid for overnight shipping so it would arrive Monday 04/22/13. I noticed on Sunday night my order was listed as "cancelled." I called them and they didn't know why but stated it would probably ship tomorrow and they would overnight it. Monday (the day I was suppose to get the phone) I get a call saying my order was permanently cancelled, "probably" because of inventory issues, but he wasn't sure. He said probably because it was a "popular phone." I never even got an email in this whole process, just a call the day I was suppose to get the phone. Not good as my first experience with T-Mobile. Hopefully I can find one in a store...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] htc fan89:
Those that received their t-mobile one, is there a gap at the top?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Element515:
Just checking to make sure, but is the unlocked version the same as the developer one. Just less memory and locked bootloader? So it won't work unless you have the refarmed tmobile?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] RuudL:
I also ordered my HTC One on Friday (around 6PM) and my status is 'Being Processed'. Anybody else having the same status? I wonder if my order was to late for the first batch and now I have to wait for the next batch. (Which would ofcourse suck).

PS Its a upgrade and I used UPS Ground shipping
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
That is 100% correct... If you want AWS then buy the T-Mobile version.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] markbo2000:
The 500 MB is your allowance for 4G only, you get unlimited for the hotspot also. Just switched from Sprint too, much better consistent speeds rather than going to 3g between lte towers!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Element515:
Ah that sucks... Well, I'm not shopping for another week or so... Hopefully they sort their crap out by then. Maybe the black will be on sale then too
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] slugbug2010:
Thanks. So with T Mobile it's unlimited hotspot??? Their plan shows "unlimited nationwide 4g" so why the 500mb limit? I will go to a store and talk to them about it, but appreciate user experience here.

Thanks again
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Crusher16:
Ordered mine on Sunday. Est delivery is the 26th. Shows as shipped.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] gsmumbo:
I still don't get this. I can't order anything on EIP. I have an iPhone currently on EIP but want to add the HTC One(and pay the two $20 a months) When I go to upgrade my phone though everything shows that this item doesn't qualify for monthly payments. I can't figure out how to do it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Ajxx16:
The 500mb is included free with their plan and it's 20 extra for full unlimited 4g, no throttling. If you have the 500 only after that your dropped to 2g speeds.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
You can't have multiple EIP on the same line..not sure why you thought TMobile will offer that. Either pay full price or open another line with EIP.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dirtyhamster73:
You can only have one phone at a time on eip. When you pay off the iphone then your eip credit will open up again.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dkeso611:
For those wanting to use T-Mobile's $30/100mins/5gb data. You can get a new sim card online for a couple bucks. They may not let you purchase one in store without activation. After you've received your sim card, go to prepaid.t-mobile.com and activate the sim and click on the $30 plan. You can only do this online. They allow you to check if you can transfer your existing number. Migration fees may vary. Good luck!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dirtyhamster73:
I have an extra Sim that I can give someone if they need it. But they are either free, I got two on T-Mobile website for .99 cents with free shipping back in November or just a few bucks. So if someone is having trouble getting a sim, for whatever reason, I can mail out asap.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] rice151:
You must of gotten a knowledgeable rep!

Do you know if the TMO stores are also giving the Car Dock with purchase of the One?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dkeso611:
I got two sim card activation kits for free in back in March. Not sure if its still free.tho.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] markbo2000:
I haven't added any extra to my hotspot amount, I have unlimited 4G on the phone, but the hotspot has a 500MB allowance. Never talked to them about adding extra for the hotspot.....I'm sure it is an option though.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Ulukita:
Finally Here

I'm a new T-mobile customer.Well this has been an experience. I originally tried to order this phone at 1pm on Friday but the website wasn't having that. I spent about 4 hours getting bounced around from rep to rep or getting disconnected while on hold. Finally at 6pm the phone was ordered with Shipping set for the 23rd. I checked the status update for it on Sat evening and it had changed to Monday which sorta made up for the wasted time. I just got a box chucked at my by the UPS guy so I'll post a pic as I open it due to time restraints. I messed around with the phone at Best Buy on Sun.There is no T-mobile branding on this device. The car docks verifies my belief that I won't be able to put a case on it other than one of those full body invisible/graphic/texture plastic wrap deals. More to come later.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] frankd14321:
Update! Ordered yesterday by adding 1 line and the order just was marked as shipped WITH A TRACKING NUMBER..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Lookatthemonkeys:
Jealous. Does not make sense though because I ordered mine Friday and they cancelled mine because of inventory. You ordered yours Sunday and yours is marked as shipped? T-Mobile needs to get their act together.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] dirtyhamster73:
Was your package weight 1.9?

Congrats! I can't wait till tomorrow!!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] Ulukita:
Have to find a good case.

My package weight was 2.60. I ordered another free refurb phone as a gift to a family member plus the included car dock. I'm going to the At&T store to scoop cases then to Best Buy if none are to my liking.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M7)] branshaw09:
Has anyone who paid for the over night delivery had success getting TMo to refund your $24.99 since it seems like they have been giving free shipping to some folks?