yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Montoi132:
MDA III BT WORKS!!!

Thanks for all the hard work! BT Switch now works! :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Version 5.1 Beta 10

Hi,

I put on the site the version 5.1 beta 10. I corrected the tpa&hold problem (don't understand how it could work for me :? )

and re-enable time log.

Zendrui

Great :) Thanks for your feedback.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: backlight level

I just updated the version 5.1 beta 10 package with the correction for that

Level 0 for PZP equals now backlight off ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: Version 5.1 Beta 10

Hello Zendrui, with timelog the exercise looks easy... (touching wood)

My Mode1 switches are:

From MONDAY TO FRIDAY

Switch Mode1 at 6.00 and switch back to Mode4 at 23.00

My Mode 4 switches are:

Only SATURDAY & SUNDAY

Switch at Mode4 at 23.30 and back to Mode1 at 09.30

Look at the timelog file, did it this morning (Wednesday):

(3)1/12/2004 10:13

(PZP)Next Wake (3)1/12/2004 23:0

(3)1/12/2004 10:15

(PZP)Next Wake (3)1/12/2004 23:0

(3)1/12/2004 23:0

(PZP)Mode1 ProgEnd: Mode4

(3)1/12/2004 23:0

(PZP)Next Wake (3)1/12/2004 23:30

Today is Wednesday and what happens is that PZP is ignoring the weekday settings: after the switch at 23.00 it wants to wakeup at 23.30 even if it is NOT the right weekday.

Is my understanding correct ?????

I hope I gave you directions to fix it... if you need some more test, ask me.

Thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
This is the normal way. PZP is waken up whatever the days then at the time check if the days are allowed.

So PZP will be waken up at 23:30 but then will check the day and see that we are wednesday and won't do the switch.

So for now your time log seems correct : the switch back at 23:00 was well done, at 23:30 nothing will happen, and normally tomorrow you will have the switch to mode1 at 6:00 ...

Agree with that ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
If this is the way PZP work, yes !

I go on with the different switches now (setting the clock forward step by step so that it will switch in few minutes) and I will post the new and complete timelog.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
5.1 beta 10

Downloaded, installed and manually tested v5.1 beta 10 tray version for switches. All worked OK - timed, Outlook and tap&hold.

Very small issue with tap&hold is regarding what it says when you tap&hold on the icon during the tap&hold switch. It says it is "Switching to <mode> at <time>". The mode it states, however, is the mode it is currently tap&hold switched into. For example, in mode 3 and tap&hold to mode 1. Tap&hold clock icon and it says "Switching to Mode 1 at <time>". Shouldn't this say "Switching to Mode 3 at <time>". Or, alternatively, "Switched to Mode 1 until <time>".

One other minor issue, which was mentioned some time ago I think, is that if you have a tap&hold switch in place, but an Outlook switch is supposed to start before the tap&hold ends, when the tap&hold does end it returns to the mode it was in before the tap&hold, so the outlook switch does not execute.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 5.1 beta 10

Thanks I will look that once done. Hoping you discover that all your switches were ok :P :wink:

Wouhou :D !

Are you sure anout that ?

I have by default a mode named home and office.

I'm in office mode I tap&hold home. If tap&hol again I have Switching to Office at xx:xx. Is it incorrect english ?

I noticed thta point the first time you posted. But I didn't look at it for now.

I will let this version with that but will add that in the next.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
I give up

Hello Zendrui,

I give up.

I went on step by step, giving PZP 5 minutes every time (23:25, 5:55) but nothing happened (no switches) and the timelog file you can see above has not been updated at all.

Looks like after the 23:00 switch everything is frozen.

On the other hand I see that I am alone with this problem, so it must be something related to my configuration crossed with last PZP release.

I will go finally back to 5.01 and wait for some lucky future release working on my device.

Last attempt.

I have on my device:

PZP,PocketBreeze, ContactBreeze,PocketWeather,SRS, TotalCommander, Ilium Software Ewallet and ListPro, PocketPlus, Tom Tom Navigator.

Hard resetted and re-installed all from clean last night just for PZP tests.

Has any user experienced any interference with some of the mentioned programs ?

Thanks to all,
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] :
I agree with you zendrui:

Mode1 = Outdoor

Mode3 = Meeting

I'm in Mode Outdoor and tap&hold on Meeting.

When I tap&hold again on Meeting, I can see the Text:

"Switching to Outdoor at 13:15"

I think this is OK, because at 13:15 he will switch back to Outdoor.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: 5.1 beta 10

English is correct if it was to display this. I am using the Tray version - haven't tested the Today plug-in.

I've got the following profiles: Normal, Do Not Disturb, Discreet, Pager, Home. For example, I'm in Home at 20:02 and tap&hold on Normal for 120 minutes. If I tap&hold again I definintely get "Switching to Normal at 22:02".

No problem, it's not a big issue. It only happens on a Monday for me and only if I forget to tap&hold before 20:15.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] pbelcl:
some small things

Hi Zendrui!

Beta 10 works good for me, thanks!

i have some things to think about, no problems just ideas for the next release :-)

1.) i found out that there is TWO ways to set ringtone!

First way is on the "ring setting" Screen. Here the ringtone.wav comes from

"\Windows\RINGS" Folder

Second way is in the Notifs Settings. Here comes the ringtone.wav from the "\Windows\" Folder

Is this a peculiarity of Windows Mobile or of your program?

Which way ist the right way to set a ringtone?

Do i have to save my ringtones to BOTH folders??

2.) in the backlite settings screen there could be a "+" and "-" sign that you see on first step which side is darker and lighter!

3.) is it possible to seperate the time for turn backlite off?

so that "on battery" and "on power" gets his own time field?

would be nice to set this seperatly for each option.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Is this using PZP Today plug-in or Tray version?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Sorry I hadn't logged in.

I tested it and you are both right.

With Today plug-in, Text is right - with Tray version text is wrong.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Hurray, I'm not going mad! :wink: (Or madder)

Just tried the Today Plug-in myself and text is correct as zendrui and yourself have already said.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: I give up

Let's see if all work for the others but I'd like it works for you too :?

I don't understand what could happen. I will think of that ..

Thanks Avalon99 ;) I didn't think you were mad mvsmith07 ;)

I should take the habit to ask in which PZP version is the problem.

Well I check that and correct.

No you just have to place your ringtone in the windows\ring folder OR in the windows folder. It is the way it works for the ring settings (not in PZP I mean) so I did the same in PZP.

Oh yes not wrong

Not sure to well understand what you mean ?

In the next version I will a check for each option to allow to useit or not when you set a mode. Because some users want to set a mode but don't want it affect the backlight for example. Is it what you mean ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] pbelcl:
Re: I give up

This is also a very good idea!

But i ment that you have TWO "turn backlite off" fields. One for "on Battery" and another for "on Power".

So you can for example use Backlite OFF after 1 Minute when on Battery AND Backlite OFF after 5 Minutes when on Power.

you understand what i mean?

It is just an idea maybe nobody exept me needs that, i dont know ;-)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Good grief, go away for a day at the thread gains two pages and two versions of beta!!!

No, sorted with your usual efficiency! Now to catch up with beta 10.

One very minor point, if the minutes are less than 10, I get Switching to Office at xx:x not Switching to Office at xx:xx

Perhaps this is now fixed, if not it's just a minor glitch.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: I give up

Yes I now see. Don't know why I didn't add that before.

I note that for the next version ;)

This should be alos corected in beta 10

Update : it is in the today version not in the tray
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: I give up

Unfortunately, not in the Tray version - it does show xx:x for the time. I can't remember what the Today Plug-In shows. It is probably correct in the Today version - the same as the text as discussed earlier.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Version 5.1 beta 11

you're right. Corrected. See below.

Vesion 5.1 beta 11 is on the site

No big deal just the points mentionned upper in the tray version :

The "switching to" display is corrected

The 13:2 is corrected and becomes 13:02

Should I display also

01:02 instead of 1:02 ?

I mean always xx:xx ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] gmerin:
Zen,

The link to the beta is pointing to v10 instead of v11.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 11

I think "Yes", but need to get a consensus from other people.

As gmerin says, link on your website is for beta10.zip.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 11

According to your opinion and to the fact that my opinion is the same I did like this ;)

So link is repared and now all is displayed xx:xx
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] :
Modes in Pocketzenphone ?

Hi, I just found that great program today and installed the beta 10. It work really good. I would like to have only the modes:

Flight

Headset

Normal

Car

It is possible to delete existing modes?

Thanks for your help!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 11

Technically, and according to international standards, a leading zero on a time implies that it is in 24 hour notation. To be honest, it should be according to the device's localisation settings but I, for one, would prefer xx:xx otherwise.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 11

Great minds think alike! :wink:

Am I too quick to visit the web page? Link is still trying to download beta_10.zip. Have refreshed internet explorer several times.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] gmerin:
BTW, until Zen can make the change, the URL for beta v11 is

http://zendrui.free.fr/TodayPlugIn/beta/PocketZenPhone_5_1_beta_11.zip
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Quick thinking, gmerin. Never thought of just manually using an url based on zendrui's current beta_10 url! Nice one.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
link beta 11

Don't know what I did :?

I really should work now ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
This version wiped off my settings when installed over beta 7... Is this expected behaviour?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
PZP cleans the registry every time you run a new version for the first time

This was added since many times.

It must have been done every time you isntalled a new version.

You didn't export :evil: ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Thanks for the clarification. For the last few versions I was forcing clean installs by manually cleaning registry etc so I did not notice this behavior change. Not to worry. I will remember to do my export next time. It does not take long to configure.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] abp:
Hi Zen

How does this export / import work?? everytime i have upgraded to a new beta i lost all setting last time i pushed export before upgrading (nothing happend??) then i upgraded and pushed import (nothing happend again) the settings was not importet and i had to set it up byhand even tried a hard reset after importing....

Regards,

Allan Boegild Pedersen
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] babj615:
You have to tap EXPORT under EACH of the 5 settings after they are the way you lilke them....

...THEN, navigate to the folder than Pocket Zen Phone is installed in [on your pocket PC ] and you will find five text documents, one for each setup. COPY these to a safe place [ PPC ROM, Another PC, Storage card, etc...].....

...Now if you ever have to reload/reset your PPC, simply copy these text documents back where you got them and click the IMPORT under each of the 5 setups and youll be all done!!!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] schen:
Beta 11 and WisBarAdvance

Eversince the new WidBTONOff.exe is used in PZP everytime change mode maually an Icon is shown in the WishBar Task manager. If I change the mode twice then two icons is listed. I cannot close the WidBTOnOff process by tapping the "x" button on WA. The icons just sit there. However, everytime I view process using MemMaid, the process dissappear.

Time duration switch work but Beta 11 suddently decided to switch in 10 minutes on the first duration instead of 15 minutes?

Please find attached the image of the ugly icons shown on the WA task manager.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Beta 11 and WisBarAdvance

;) If it is ok that's cool :)

Thanks babj615 to have answered the question ;)

Yes to keep the today plugin as light as possible, I put all the Bt functiuns in separate application. So each time you click on mode it calls this applicaiton. But after a second it kills itself.

:oops: Right. As I put 2 minutes when I make test and set 10 instead of 15. I correct that.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Dear Zendrui,

Couldn't it be possible to add a feature in the option list to change ringtone for each profile? Like that if possible!

Thanx
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Re: Nice try

Zendrui, thanks for this nice little program. And also for taking the time answering all the questions and comments here!

Mate, I like the idea to keep it simple and flexible. Some things that I would like to see are:

1) Profile names:

Instead of "Mode 1" and so forth I would rather see names like "Loud", "Normal", "Meeting", "Airplane", "Car" and "Silent". And maybe one or two additional profiles for individual use. Wouldn't a total number of 8 profiles make sense? Maybe you can add a check-box to each profile to give the user the ability to make it visible on the Today screen.

I would prefer to have the buttons on the Today Screen starting at the left side of the screen like other Today plugins...

2) GPRS switch:

I mentioned an "Airplane" profile before. Of course that would require to have a switch in the Settings dialog to actually switch GPRS on / off.

3) Bluetooth Headset switch:

The same goes for the Bluetooth Headset mode. It would be great if that could be defined per profile as well.

4) Settings dialogue colors:

Mate, that may be my old eyes :oops: but dark blue letters on dark green background is not very applealing. Why don't you just use the normal white background with dark blue labels and black letters for the selections...

By the way: Great that you have the version number at the bottom of the dialogue... otherwise I wouldn't know anymore which version I am using right now :lol:

5) Setting dialogue volume:

Sorry, that may sound a bit pedantic. You have next to the volumes "0" and "5". How about using something that makes sence like "Mute" or "Off" and "Loudest"?

6) Different ringtone for each mode:

I am with all the people here that ask for a different ringtone for each mode...

7) Two different times:

OK, I am a bit stupid, but I regularly forget to switch the phone off when I go to bed :oops: My wife doesn't appreciate it at all when a colleague from Europe then wants to leave a message for me at 3am. Could you have two times and set a different profile for them? I would have it on "Normal" during the day and pre-set it to automatically be "Silent" at night...

8) "Notifs":

Hm, I have to admit that I'm still not quite sure what the settings under "Notifs" do and what they don't... As far as I think you can define different sounds for different events per profile. But I would think this requires a clearer description... at least for me :oops:

If I'm right here just having an event "Phone: Incoming Call" may be the answer to point 4.

9) "About" box:

Mate, you did such a great product here and nobody ever sees where the program is from or where one could at least donate to support you. How about you add a second page to the Settings with a reference to your webpage and a link to the threat here with the ability to donate?

OK, enough now. You really shouldn't get the impression that I am unhappy with what I have so far. Thanks for all your effort with this great program! Hope you're having some fun in Hannover - I'm happy I don't have to go anymore since I move away from Europe :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
answer to point 7 would be the ability to set times for a profile, mentioned that before and zendrui told that he would try to apply it in one of the following upgrades.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Nice try

Many things to answer :

So 8 modes is too many I think ... It won't fit in the today screen and I think that 5 modes cover all the needs.

Name the mode ? why not but do everyboby use the same order and same configuration ? (personnally I use them right to left, mute to louder)

As soon as I find how to do I inlude that

I have a XDA1 so I won't be able to test that if I add it to PZP ... :( So I prefer not to try something I cannot validate

:( I like the colors ;)

Yes I will do that no prob it is equal for me to have 0 to 5 ot mute To louder

I'm currently adding that ;)

Yes I have to see that but it will be longer as it is not easy to add it simply.

I don't want to buy PZP but I received mails to ask me to add a donate button ... so I think I will do that :oops:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Re: Nice try

Thanks for taking the time to go through my list, mate. I fullly understand that some things make sense to you and others don't. After all, it's your call :D

You're right there mate. And maybe 5 modes is enough. Maybe you like to add a field for a description to the modes so one can know what they are supposed to so.

Good stuff!!!

A wise decision, mate :) Maybe someone can help out there :?: Sorry, I'm a very talented non-programmer :oops:

Thought you would :lol: Still, for me it works like that: take my glasses off, move the XDA about 10 cm in front of my nose and read the text... :shock: Mate, why not use standards there like every other program does :?:

Very nice! Thanks in advance!!!

Yep, I see that is a tricky one with all sorts or implications... from my perspective a "nice to have" rather than a "must be" :)

You're a nice guy, mate. Don't feel bad of getting something back for all your effort. You may invest it to make the program even better 8)

Again, Thanks for your great tool, mate :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] JaToAc:
@zendrui: i'm sure that farnold and me and some others would like to test that for you... :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Sure will, mate!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
No problem for me at all.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Have I missed something or is it just not there? Normally you can set the volume for PDA and Speaker independantly - as you can with this great tool. But how to set it to "Vibrate". I played with several settings in PocketZenPhone under "Ring" and saved them, but when I check the speaker on the Totay screen it is never set to "Vibrate"... Can someone help me there?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Yes you are right, the icon is never set to vibrate! It does vibrate, but it isn't set like that. No problem, just try to let somebody call you!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
OK, mate, just call me on +61 404 ... just kidding :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hello,

do you mean that when you set a ring mode such as 'vibate' the icon on the today screen is not set to vibrate ?

If you mean that I think it is normal. Because if you set the ring mode 'vibrate' in the standard phone settings the vibrate is not checked neither.

I think that 'vibrate' on the today screen is to have all the system volum replaced by vibrations (so all the notifications vibrating...)

Am I right ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Thanks, mate. I see your point. You only set sound behaviour for the phone... since I have all other sound settings switched off anyway that's the same for me, but not for everyone of course. So only way to see what I will get is the Today Screen icon...

That's where is becomes difficult - at least for me. When a program is open - and normally I have at least the Dialer open - I don't see anymore how my phone will behave... hm, what's the best way out of that?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ianp:
RingTones

Could I make a request that if you introduce ringtone settings for each mode this is done in a way that doesn't stop the application working in harmony with MTUX RingToneX.

At the moment I control the volume using PocketZenphone based on the situation; and the ringtone using RingToneX based on the caller.

This is perfect.

If you force the ringtone based on the situation it will be a backward step for me.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I will simply add the possibility to set the default ring tone depending on the mode selected.

But it won't interfer with program such as phoneext (that I use myself)

So if you don't use a program like that you will have the ring tone selected with the mode.

If you use phonext for example this feature will have no utility for you ...

PS : I noticed for bluetooth headset I will see how it works ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] egypt123:
zendrui - No rush on this, but in the future, can you add a checkbox on each of the mode screens that will allow you to set that mode as the default? For example, when you do a cold-reset, it now defaults to mode 2. It would be nice if the user could select which one to default to. Thanks a bunch!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
How about you define your prefered profile being the first one? This way you should get what you're looking for...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] egypt123:
I guess I could do that, but if I ever want to change it, I have to more than likely change 2 profiles. As I said, it's no big deal or rush, but it would be convenient to be a ble to select the default profile.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] farnold:
Besides, I noticed that the second profile is the default one. No idea, why that is the case though...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hi, I'm back ;)

I'm curently adding the ring tone choice.

I think that add a checkbox to define the default mode will not be very difficult so I will try to add that too.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I updated the package on the site to correct the 10 min in 15 min for the time menu
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Tanguy:
Installing over PZP 4.5 pre-installed in ROM

Zendrui,

I'm still amazed by the number of pages this discussion goes on Exclamation

Toutes mes félicitations

I did not find the time to read them all as I though I would.

Instead, I wanted to install the 5.x version to start and play with it.

How will my XDA handle your application upgrade when the old 4.5.1 one is sitting in my cooked ROM.

1. Will it work smoothly if I install "As-Is" :?:

2. Do I need to install a new ROM without PZP in it :?:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Installing over PZP 4.5 pre-installed in ROM

Merci :)

Oui c'est kler super long ;)

Well it is a good question.

I would say that you can install over the 4.5.1 included in the rom and that it will work because it will simple replace the old files by the new one.

The instalaltion path didn't change so I think you can try ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] schen:
Re: Beta 11 and WisBarAdvance

Yes, but the problem is the icons stay there at the wisbar task bar at the top and wont dissappear.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I changed some things and tried with wisbar adavance.

Seems to be ok, no more icon display.

Could you and could someone wo has a XDA3 try it (to be sure that it has no impact on the BT on/off on XDA3/MDA3/Qtek9090)

Simply extract the file on your pc and replace the WidBTOnOff.exe in the PZP installation folder