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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] gregsarg:
I hate charging my device...It takes the device out of service. Hence the word "mobile".

And this piece of crap charging port feels like it will break if even touched anyway.... so the less I use it, the better...IMHO
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
exactly why not to get the zero lemon battery.

The charging time is ridiculously long with zero lemon. You would be much better off buying two extra 3100mha battery and charge three 3100 mha batteries simultaneously, which means you can charge 9300mha three times faster than the Zero lemon. Also whilst charging spare battery your mobile can still be free from charging unlike Zero lemon where it has to be attached to a cable all that time charging.

Also your phone is less portable because you are always carrying the weight of three batteries on your phone weather you need or not.

All of these reason negates the long battery life benefit of the ZM.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
Sorry, but no. The weight of the ZL is about the same as carrying around the extra 3100 batteries. Since I charge at night, the extra time charging isn't significant and I'd have to buy two extra chargers to simulcharge the three batteries. Carrying three things, having to swap them out and keep track of which ones are charged and which aren't is far more of a pain than carrying a single object of the same weight that doesn't require swapping. Not to mention I doubt I can get two quality 3100mAh batteries and two chargers for the price of the ZL.

It sounds like the ZL doesn't fit your needs. So don't get one. But stop pretending you have a clue about what other people need, because you really don't.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
So you think people attach the two spare battery onto their phone with sellotape or something??
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jorv976:
Cuz we can.

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U must be a jog for days
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
What's with this "cos we can" answer? Are you Americans so brainwashed by Obama's "yes we can" slogan or something.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jlczl:
So why do YOU want this battery?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
I'd say you're blowing smoke and have very little real world experience. One should never presume that their thinking encompasses the entire sphere of possible experiences.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Phogg:
If you are working in a office, why do you need a cell phone at all? Your land line never has any additional hardware costs, never needs charged, and does everything you need at a desk.

So why does a cube rat need to even be on this forum dedicated to devices for those of us on the go?

Are you a troll?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
Sounds like you've never been in an office and only know what it's like by reading Dilbert.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
No, but if you plan on using those two spare batteries you're still going to have to carry them with you, so you're still carrying the extra weight around.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
Carrying weight around does not equal to the weight of the phone. If I carrying a bag with 5kg of stuff, does that mean my phone weight 5kg+? No, my phone is still 183 grams.

Same with spare battery, I can put it in the bag or in the car or in the office or in the pocket, my phone is still light and portable and swap it out when needed. With Zero Lemon, you don't have this choice, you permanently increase the weight and decrease the portability of your phone for extended battery life whether you need it or not.

For example, you go to post office and lunch, which will only take 2 hours, if you have zero lemon, you have to carry a less portable phone without any added benefit, because the stock battery would last more than 2 hours.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] bahtsiz_bedevi:
LOL! Good catch :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Phogg:
Or I read his post and parroted the same vacuous passive aggressive nonsense right back.

It is not as if there were any intellectually viable content in the little hissy fit post that launched this annoying thread, Nor has the OP contributed anything of greater worth since.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ChodTheWacko:
I was GPS logging a hike today, and it was sure nice to able to do whatever i wanted to on my phone, and not have to worry about running out of battery (and thus, interrupt my logging). I don't need that sort of load on a regular basis, but that sure was sweet.

Bottom line is this - some people don't mind the bulk that the zerolemon adds when they use it. Some people just want the battery to last longer than a standard sized battery lasts. To the OP: You don't understand why they feel that way when there are other options. Guess what? It doesn't matter that you don't understand. The fact is, those people exist and they as a result like the zerolemon. Might as well accept it.

- Frank
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] luigi90210:
while i dont own a note 2(yet) i can see why someone would want a big battery like this, my reason for getting the 3800 extended battery for my nexus(the biggest battery they make) is so i can capture shots of cars when i go to car shows and i need my battery to last all day without worrying about charging my phone and without having to turn on my car to charge it

perfect example was last saturday when i went to a car show, i had my 3800mah battery and my 2100 OEM extended battery and i burnt through my 3800mah battery from all the pictures and video i was taking and uploading as i took them on facebook(4 hours of seeing every car imaginable, new, old, classic, muscle, import, exotic, VIP, luxury, trucks, ect.) and not all the cars are there for the entire day so if i had to stop and charge my phone, i might have missed some pictures of the cars that stopped by and left a little bit later

sure having a bigger battery means its less portable(well less pocketable, still just as portable imo) but having less battery life is not acceptable especially when you are in a situation where charging isn'ta viable option(like camping for several days, car shows, ect.)

granted not i am not your average 9-5 worker, but many of the people who go to these car shows are your average 9-5 blue collar workers who might need a battery like that for special events that come up
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ultra78721:
I bought a zero lemon battery because the one that came with my note 2 was not cutting it.

I disconnect off the charger at 800am by 900am its mounted in my work truck.

It set to multi window mode:good:

One window is streaming my youtube playlist all day and the other window has google maps satellite view style maximum data:good:.(I have the little bar thingy that splits the windows all the way to one side to hide youtube so most of the screen is google maps)

Back Ground apps

Gmail,hotmail,craigslist,facebook,Slickdeals all refresh to maximum times per hour the apps allow.

Bluetooth is on and brightness is set to auto ,which sucks cause that's where the battery drains fast and Im outdoors all day and full brightness is a must.(especially when you have shades on ;) )

Having it this way my battery is 55% by 12..not rooted by the way.

So the charger is mandatory. It wont make it to 8 or 9 pm when i get off work.

Now with the zero lemon...wow...I have everything the same accept the brightness is set to full blast:good: no more stupid auto brightness:laugh: and no more freaking charger.

AMAZING!!!!!!!!At 8pm-ish I am at 25% ..I place on charger about 1200am and at 800am the battery is at 100% I don't know how long it takes to charge but it charges while im sleeping and its ready for me when its time to go to work.

On the weekend I take the zero lemon off and put my regular battery and that last me all day:good: I'm off on weekends and do not use the phone as much.

I love the zero lemon battery and Highly recommend the battery for heavy users as I ;)

You don't have to carry a spare battery ,neither worry about charging your phone through out the day again.

This Battery is fully utilized as it was meant to be under my conditions ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eraursls1984:
One thing I love about the Note 2 is that it recognizes external hard drives. When I go to shows I use a point and shoot and now I can conect my camera to my phone and transfer all the pics and upload immediately. Before the note with I had to wait until I drove home which is generally 2-5 hours after a show and then I don't even feel like it until the next day.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] opasha:
dude, that's awesome. i just ordered mine and it's coming tomorrow! i can't wait. i do the exact same stuff you do, i constantly use google maps in multiwindow along pandora or youtube like yourself. that def eats battery, but my battery life is really solid despite that. my recommendation is to use either cleanrom 4.5 or 4.8 or jdevil rom (i've heard good things about this one but haven't tried it yet as i am currently on cleanrom 4.5). now, here's the big thing...get perseus kernel. i'm currently using perseus 35 and it's great. underclock to 1400 mhz and then you can mess around with whatever things you prefer. i have gpu set at 640. i/o set to zen for both internal and external.

disclaimer: ROOT is necessary if you want the provided tweaks- it's very easy to ROOT the Note II. If anyone has questions or needs help, feel free to ask me or look at the great tutorials in this forum. People have really made it easy.

for everyone that does not know this, you can increase your charging speeds substantially by using your 2 amp charger into the wall with perseus POWER tweaks. i use the blackberry playbook charger which i ordered from amazon and it works amazingly well for the note 2 as a solid 2 amp charger. now, the big TWEAK to get fast charging from perseus:

go to power settings:

DCP Input Current: 2000 mA (this setting is for your wall charger with a 2amp cable)

DCP Charge Current: 1900 mA

SDP Input Current: 900 mA (if you guys use your usb into your computer this will help that otherwise it's not necessary)

SDP Charge Current: 800 mA

Check the "Ignore margin" box

4.35 V should be default at the bottom.

This will really help your charging speed....trust me. I'm going to test this on the zerolemon and update my results for you guys, but it definitely works for the stock battery. I've done this multiple times without heating up or affecting battery performance at all.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
I'm jealous of all you guys who have their phones rooted :( To avoid carrying two different phones, I have mine for personal use and also work (corporate exchange with all it's forced privacy policies and security settings - not allowed to root).

Bro, i have no doubt you will enjoy that ZL beast! Once you start seeing benefits of extra capacity, you will forget about additional weight. The only problem - you won't be able to use any of your cool slim cases anymore :) I'm keeping my fingers crossed they will have a nice rugged case available by the end of the June! My thinking on this battery/tpu - I will use it weekdays when I need to squeeze the most out of my battery. Also, if/when I'm taking trips. On a weekend, I go lightweight back to my stock battery and UAG case!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] manbat:
Because the Phone was too light....

I honestly like the weight and feel of the phone with the zero lemon battery....It does last me about 3 days + now...lol. :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
Is there anyone whi use this battery every day ?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] weedahoe:
I use it everyday and have it in my phone now. I love it
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
I've only had it a few days, but I'm sure it will be my standard setup. It's really no bigger than a decent protective case. The weight, while noticeably heavier, is really no big deal. After seeing my phone with the battery, my wife decided she wanted one for daily use too. The phone is big enough to begin with that the extra size is just no big deal IMO.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] votum:
I use it every day, and am not a tiny child, so the added weight doesn't matter. I have a note 2, which means I don't have the phone in my jeans, so who cares how big the thing is. I don't have to worry about my alarm not going off if I didn't plug my phone in, because it doesn't drop 1% over night. I can go 3 days with heavy use, and it still fully charges in 4 hours. No reason not to get it really.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] opasha:
That sucks that you can't root. It really makes a huge difference. Despite that, the phone still performs beyond any other phone.

Thanks, I can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow. My UAG is my go to case at the moment. I will swap with stock and the zerolemon much like yourself. I will only need to use the zerolemon from time to time on long days away from a charge or when I'm using heavy navigation/media for particular days. Thanks for the input :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] luigi90210:
hhhmmm, i actually didnt know that

i was looking into getting a galaxy camera just cause it could do that

now when i get my note, i have to check this out for myself, i would love to be able to simply take the photos off my camera and upload them straight to social media sites
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
There are two simple words to describe why EVERYONE should have this battery: Hurricane Sandy. The one comment I kept hearing over and over when people were interviewed was that their cell phone battery went dead too fast and they wish it had been fully charged. I don't live in hurricane country but I do live in earthquake country. Being prepared is never something to be taken lightly.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
One of the main reasons I use extended batteries(the biggest I can find) is because you never know when life will take a turn for the worst. My mom had to have emergency surgery last year and my battery died in the middle of trying to call family and friends, etc..

In an emergency situation you don't have time to look for chargers or outlets to plug in to. You just need your phone to work. Period.

The Mugen and now the Zero Lemon give me the peace of mind that if I need it, I have the battery power to go DAYS without a charge.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LBJM:
You got that right.

I read an article about someone who was thrown in a trunk of a car but had their cell phone on them and dailed 911. Their battery died during the call and help didn't come in time.

On a side note the added thickness allows the note 2 to stay in my hands. The stock phone with no case is too slippery for me.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] d12unk13astard:
Heres why...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kaisutam:
I am one of those crazy people who use the phone routinely for a hotspot in addition to all of the other uses this phone has. You can actually watch the battery drain while connected to a computer. I have found it very fruitful to be the guy that can back up the CEO at a presentation with that kind of capacity. I have seen the look of disappointment when his iphone begins to fail him before the end of a long day. I relish the idea of feeding I-things with my superphone. I will always grab extra capacity for any mobile device I ever own in the future as well.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] manbat:
With Heavy use today.....still have this left. Could last until tomorrow afternoon
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] z06mike:
Sorry to get off topic, but your sig is freaking cool!!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jmbburg26:
Being in the military, I have found that you can't always get to an outlet when you're out in the field for days at a time and need a big battery that will last awhile.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mdt73:
While travelling from the states to Afghanistan on deployment, it took me roughly 8days total travel time. Of those 8 days, 4 of them were days where I had no possible way to recharge my phone/music player/game machine/photo viewer/internet browser/email machine...etc.

Since I put the phone on airplane mode when I am not planning on making calls, the best battery life I have got so far is over 10 days between charges.

Zero lemon's 9300mah battery is flat out awesome for people who don't have access to an outlet 24/7.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mdt73:
Can't complain...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] javidben:
That is some impressive battery power even for a 9300mah battery

Just a random question, how long does it take to charge that huge batt? Just to charge my xsp 2300 mah takes about 3 hours, and is there a way to charge it externally?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
I want to see some screen on time, Android system, in going to the full view of the graph.

From: around 1 to 5 percent battery life, it can take about 8 hours and that's through the OEM Samsung charger now if you have one of those external batteries Like Anker supplies probably a little faster.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] EVOIXGSR:
I personally would never need something like that, but I could see where a doctor working a crazy long shift that accesses prescription information on his phone or something like that would need more than the standard charge. That being said, I would rather just slip an extra battery in my other pocket or locker.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
Two words: Hurricane Sandy.

The biggest thing I heard from folks when interviewed is that they wish their phone had been fully charged. I don't use the ZL on a daily basis but it sits in my drawer fully charged just in case. A cheap $40 insurance policy.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
ahh the screen time is right their. 25% so 63 hours screen on time.

WOW that is impressive. or is the 25% the amount of "power" the screen consumed? ie 25% time or 25% power ?

either way you can bet the 3100 would NOT have done that and crap he still has 16% left I bet that is enough for another 2 days :)

I am telling you in MAXIMUM power save mode calls only emergency mode all radios off when not in use I bet you can easily get 2 to 2.5 weeks out of this battery :)

you can also use an OTG cable to CHARGE other things WITH your note II ie use it as a usb power bank :) charge up your buddies phone :)

btw I HAVE taken the zero lemon to 40% in a single day. only did that once. I am usually at 60% at the end of the day :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
The percentage is just something that equals up to a hundred its not actual 25 percent of the time
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
yeah but 100% of "what"

100% of run time or 100% of battery power?

duh hang on I can just find out myself

Hmm its close but not an exact match. Run time 134 minutes screen 45% or 55 minutes but 45% should be 60 minutes not 55 minutes.

weird.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] devynbf:
Because I hate charging my phone.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
It just doesn't work like that dude.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
did we cross into the twilight zone or something? why are you arguing with me?

it does not work like "WHAT" I said 2 things and it "MUST" be one or the other. so it "DOES" in fact work like one of them.

it says 25%. 25% is a percentage of SOMETHING. of what? time or power?

its measuring SOMETHING. its a pretty good guess its either MAH (power) or TIME.

since it displays running TIME you might make a good guess that its measuring TIME in percentage of runtime. I somehow doubt that though since I don't see 9300mah running that screen for 63 hours even if you don't do anything else.

so its probably "POWER" he used 84% of his battery and 25% of that 84% went to the screen. I would wadger the screen on time at 8-10 hours but thats an out my butt guess.

so around 2 amps went to the screen?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mexiking713:
I need this battery. My 3 year old drains my battery. She loves to watching youtube and netflix on my phone better than her nexus 7 for some reason. I contacted the seller on eBay and he said the black one would be available within 2 weeks. The white on is in stock now.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eraursls1984:
I thought it was common knowledge that it is measuring the battery power, not time. It gives you the amount of time used but it's measured in the amount of power that it used.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
sure that makes sense but everything it DISPLAYS is in time so I was unsure.

so its power 2 amps to the display.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
Let me first say that I don't need the zero lemon.

I wanted it....bad

Why so I can run my phone balls out.

Over clocked and multitasking when ever I want when ever I need.

Play games without worrying if you will get through the day.

Its just piece of mind.

Everyone knows stock android is a battery hog. Look at the razr max they upped the game

This takes the game to a new level. I now have the ultimate mobile phone and I don't have to worry about juice

My battery charges in less than 6 hours from 5% the math says that a 9.3ah battery on the stock 2ah charger will charge in 4, 65 hrs

I forget where but someone in this thread it would be faster to charge 3 stock 3100mah batteries than one zero lemon 9300mah batteries

I'm sorry but no, with the exact same set ups you will be done faster since you don't need to swap batteries

This battery makes my phone big yes but guess what you have a galaxy note product chances are size is not a problem.

I can stand smaller phones now...for as much as I use my phone I want to enjoy it every aspect of it and I don't want to

Be bothered by tweaking stuff to get better battery life....but its nice to know I can. My personal best is almost 5 days
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
there is another potential bonus to a battery like this.

its not a single 9300mah cell its 3 basically "stock" cells in parallel. assuming the cell selection is good and circuit design is good this is actually a good thing. since it places 1/3 the "load" onto each cell (lighter load means longer life) since all the work is divided amongst 3 cells unlike 2 stock batteries which places full load on EACH cell.

this could potentially mean a longer lifespan. also as the battery degrades it will be "less noticeable" since you have so much excess capacity. so its real lifespan and its "effective" lifespan should be quite a bit longer.

my only concern is will I be able to get another in 3 years :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bster13:
"Pocketability"

Apologies in advance for bringing an old thread back from the dead....

New to Android and the Galaxy Note 2 (just sold my iphone 5 32g and the Note 2 is on the way) and I've been researching all things Galaxy Note 2. I caught this thread on the Zero Lemon and was wondering if owners could comment on its "pocketability?"

I'm a 35yr old professional who would have the phone in dress pants / khakis and relaxed fit (but not baggy) jeans most of the time. I'm 5'9" with a 34in waist. I know the stock Galaxy Note 2 with no case will fit just fine, but I'm curious about the Zero Lemon form factor. How does it suit you when getting it in and out of pockets? Is the TPU case grabby? (I hope the TPU case they ship adds some grip, but not too much when accessing it from my pocket).

Many thanks....much to learn. :good:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] weedahoe:
I have a belt clip case for mine but never use it. But even with the Zero Lemon battery, I just slide it in the back pocket of my slacks or jeans with no problems. When I'm out riding my bike, I put it in my front pocket
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JCreazy:
I went back to my stock battery for a few days. I hated it. By the time I got off work I would be in the red and if I wanted to go hang out with friends after work my phone would die. With the zerolemon I can go almost 3 days without charging so I can choose when to charge my phone, not HAVE to charge my phone. Also I love the weight, it feels much more solid to me, without the zerolemon, I feel like the phone will just slip out of my hand.