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[Galaxy Note II General] kryptoner:
It would be better if you open one single thread with all these put together, you can also put it in apps and games section on xda so larger proportion of people will be benefited by it
[Galaxy Note II General] rocketpaul:
Neutron is probably the best sounding, but it has the worst interface of all them, when you have a music collection exceeding 200 songs navigation is a nightmare. i think player pro has the easier interface but i prefer the sound quality of power amp (which is my daily player)
[Galaxy Note II General] Decreate:
I used to like Neutron more as well; however I've recently given Poweramp another try and found that the sound quality had improved to the point where I now prefer Poweramp more.
[Galaxy Note II General] agrttc:
neutron.
[Galaxy Note II General] Maxstate:
I'm a PlayerPro guy because I like to use the 'back' button to go back to my library instead of back to 'playing now' or the android launcher desktop (this is a problem many music players have, the only other one I know of that doesn't have this issue is Cloudskipper).
[Galaxy Note II General] ksc6000:
I like poweramp because it lets me use physical folders on my sd card to shuffle them as playlists.
[Galaxy Note II General] Aby_148:
Indeed,

tried Neutron 2 months ago, loved the DSP, hated the interface. Real shame.
[Galaxy Note II General] nareshramadurai:
Neutron is a great player but the interface is kind of old school....but its awesome in every other aspect
[Galaxy Note II General] bungknees:
Anyone else tried isense music player? I have used them all, but the UI on isense is very nice and the sound is pretty dam good too.

Give it a go.
[Galaxy Note II General] jkpsaras:
I'm now a Neutron fanboy

I have the Sprint version of the Note 2 and find the sound quality of Neutron superior to the other players. I had been using PowerAmp for 2 years.

I have purchased some classical and jazz music from HDTracks and the definition of the individual instruments is very noticeable.

User interface is butt ugly compared to PowerAmp's. But sound won me over. I still use PowerAmp to build and maintain playlists.
[Galaxy Note II General] zibbi3:
My prefered player is ... ES FILE EXPLORERs music player. It does not have fancy tuning options (im using boeffla for that) or beautiful HD covers. But it plays all files i use mostly mp3, wav and flac. It does stream it from cloud storage such as dropbox and others and allows me to create a playlist.

Verstuurd van mijn GT-N7100 met Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note II General] Homey:
JetAudio Player spanks all of the above out the door. Seriously the best sound and the 3D effect (same one used in Cowon MP3 Players) absolutely fantasic.

I use this with my Bose SoundLink over bluetooth and the increased soundfield is just amazing!

Try it and see..
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Really? It's hard to believe but I have no reason to doubt you. I will try it, I kind of agree with most people who says Neutron sound the best but crappy UI. If Jet Audio can produce as good sound I would be happy to change.
[Galaxy Note II General] nipuna:
I use player pro. Best interface. I dont notice any quality difference between neutron n this.

As per the EQs none of the player eqs n play store ones impressed me much. Increasing level on one fequency seems to muffle others.

The best thus far has been s-tweaks eq courtesy of andrei lux. nooze oxide is quite good too.

I ve tested with different headsets - beats, ajays one, ultimate ears 5 and 350vm and phillips tread.

I wouldn't call myself an audiophile (mainly coz im broke most d time) but I do enjoy my music.. and am looking to get an etymotic hf2 as sson as I can afford it..
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Well I tried it and I have to say, I'm pretty impressed with Jet Audio. It has a nice 70's vintage Hi-Fi sound close to high-end vinyl records.(When I was young I was saying the sound is wrapped in caramel coz it's so sweet) I'm more of a flat EQ kind of guy but people who like effects they have a lot of choice.

Good call Homey:good:
[Galaxy Note II General] Homey:
You're welcome!
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
If this is anything like my Cowon J3, it'll be amazing.
[Galaxy Note II General] DrMuhammadElHanafy:
Stock music player, Perseus kernel with Eargasm EQ.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tcix:
TTPod is a good choice too

I use the same but sometimes I like to use TTPod because It has a good interface with a lot of configurations, especially because in it i can read the music letter, this helps me a lot because I'm brazilian and I'm learning English. :good:
[Galaxy Note II General] IsolatedAbyss:
+1 on PlayerPro.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
PlayerPro has by far the best UI, but for me I didn't really like the sound quality.
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
I'm a big fan of player pro. Good sound quality with the dsp plugin and a nice user interface. What I love about the app is the lock screen widget and the "long press volume to skip tracks" functionality that's available from the lock screen.

Sent from the mighty Note II
[Galaxy Note II General] Crimvel:
Poweramp was the first App I've ever bought and never was disappointed!
[Galaxy Note II General] asad510:
+1
[Galaxy Note II General] Aby_148:
I have to plug this in here:

After installing N.E.A.K. kernel just yesterday, I was overwhelmed with the quality improvement, using any player (stock, Poweramp, Neutron...)

I suspect it will be the same with whatever player you're using. Now, for me, the choice comes down to UI, don't need no hype DSP of any kind. We already got a great DA chip. With a tweaked kernel, good phones and your choice of app, everything sounds better.

PowerAmp still wins for me. The folder browsing is elegant and powerful, everything is in the right place, and it is, for lack of better word - snappy.

Q: One feature that is beautiful with the stock S player is the ability when 'scrubbing' media, the further your finger is, the more accurate it is. Very useful with long files, like podcasts. What other player does this?
[Galaxy Note II General] Sezereus:
I'm happy with the default music player from Sammy uncle on my Note II, with the MegaBassBeats mod and DSP Manager (Bass boost - moderate).
[Galaxy Note II General] kersey:
Am a Power Amp user myself, do you keep the EQ on Poweramp flat/off and just user Boeffla Sound Control to adjust the EQ and others when using the NEAK kernel to get the best results?
[Galaxy Note II General] :
I was searching for a player which could play my superhd video songs without pictures....so i found neuteon
[Galaxy Note II General] spidermoon:
I do a quick test between Power Amp and Neutron, with an entry level earphones and Adagio from Albinoni. Neutron is slighty better, with more feeling/emotion and a clearer sound. I try a female singer and again, a win for Neutron.

PowerAmp use 5% cpu, Neutron a whooping 25%, I try neutron power saving, change sampling, with no effects.
[Galaxy Note II General] Aby_148:
I haven't had the chance yet to play with BSC. More importantly, don't feel the need to... yet. I surely will try your suggestion when I get to it, it seems a reasonable way to go about it.

OK, now I had a look at BSC... Sorry, forgot I was not on the Note 2 sub-forum... Not compatible with my device.

Still, I can't see any added value over the tweaks already in place in NEAK.

As a rule, in any audio system, I tend to limit processing to possible minimum. Unless there's a specific problem with the source material, I keep everything flat. PowerAmp's EQ with NEAK as backbone, is now servicable enough for me for a quick (and not dirty) fix.

A thing for us all to consider:

Generally speaking, it's hard enough to conduct an accurate AB test even with a professional setup and operator. Getting reliable, repeatable results when concerning minute differences is a thing audio engineers break their head over daily, it takes more experience that you would imagine to not fool ourselves. Add to that our million little biases, social influence, emotional state, age of ears, and shininess of new, promising interface, it is amazing how we can still agree on SOME things... like:

...Neutron does sound better. But it's slow and crashes too often for me. Don't know why, don't care, plenty plenty of alternatives.
[Galaxy Note II General] kersey:
Thanks for the reply...I forgot that the uNEAK app has the same audio settings as BSC plus more so am now back to the NEAK kernel and app.

Gonna give it a test tonight to see whether to use the EQ in Poweramp or uNEAK.

I know it's all down to the individual listener and their tastes but what are people generally doing - using just the uNEAK apps hardware EQ or their music players EQ.
[Galaxy Note II General] Aby_148:
Welcome.

Well, had a quick comparison session. Quick, because there's no comparison.

uNEAK EQ trumps PowerAmp EQ in terms of audio quality. Despite what I said before, I feel anyone with ears will concur. Less bands (rendering it almost unusable for fixing specific problems like hum or bg. noise) but is super duper clean, and at least feels linear.

For the time being, it's disabled. If a quick band fix for a song or podacst is needed - PW EQ does OK still.

If it's a full album I'm gonna immerse into, most likely no EQ is needed at all, but for that special case I'll:

1. switch to the homescreen where I have the uNEAK shortcut

2. press it

3. press Wolfson ctrl menu

4. scoll down to tuning

5. enable HW EQ

6. press EQ menu

7. adjust EQ to taste

8. 3 clicks to exit

Yeah, some steps can be shortcutted and there's presets, but it's awfully cumbersome to adjust on the fly, seems like it was more intended to "set and forget".

I wish there was a sohrtcut icon or widget just for the EQ settings. I'll suggest that to the dev.
[Galaxy Note II General] splasenekladivo:
As first I tried Winamp because I have used it on PC and it was little disappointment for me on Android. Since then I am using Poweramp and I love it, but still would tweak something here and there. Recently I am testing n7player as it looks interesting. But the most I would love to see foobar2000 on Android as its my PC player of choice.
[Galaxy Note II General] halkoliiteri:
Vote for GoneMAD Music Player. Player Pro is also great player.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
By the way people, Persus, Adam or Neak are all using the exact same Wolfson chip controler from Boeffla. I'm saying this in case you feel the need of flashing a new kernel just for the sound. They all have the same controler. This control the wolfson chip directly so any of these kernel will have the same sound.

For Neak kernel use uNeak app

Persus and Adam kernels are using Boeffla sound apps
[Galaxy Note II General] raduque:
I'm still using PowerAMP. It's the only music player that has the two features I require most: Selecting specific folders, and keeping the screen on while the player is in the foreground.
[Galaxy Note II General] cknicker:
what sound processing is happening in the player?

I couldn't tell much sound quality difference between PowerAmp and the stock Note 2 player using the stock Samsung earbuds. I guess I am wondering what sound processing is happening in the player? The DAC should be done in the hardward sound chip shouldn't it? Maybe I need better headphones to hear the difference between the players?
[Galaxy Note II General] raduque:
The DAC is hardware, yes, but the DSP is in the software. Different apps have different sounding DSPs.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Also depends on your source, if you use 128kb MP3, any player will sound the same. You need AT LEAST 320kb mp3 or even better FLAC files to hear a difference.

This said, 320kb mp3 or FLAC file will not automatically assure you a good sound. Some files found on the interet are FLAC files made from 128kb mp3, they just put it on FLAC format to give the impression it is high quality. Also some classic rock song were not recorded with such a high quality instrument so putting them on FLAC file won't make them sound better. But if you make your FLAC files yourself directly from audio DVD you will see a huge difference.

A huge misconception in audio is that the speakers are the most important when in fact it is the source. Your speakers can only play out what comes in.
[Galaxy Note II General] issak42:
Same here. That app is just so hard to crack, I had to buy it :)

And it was worth it.

I think my music player history goes something like this:

Some samsung stock > Double twist > winamp (which I ditched for its ugliness and useless widget) > poweramp with ICS theme > play music.

Now I use power amp for offline music and play music for the cloud.

I'm happy with both to the point where I don't even bother looking at any others.
[Galaxy Note II General] Peter Galbavy:
Poweramp was also one of the first apps I ever paid for back when I had a Dell Streak. It's served me well and the updates are still relatively regular.

The one problem I have with it on both the Note II and the Note 10.1 is that when playing FLAC 24/96 tracks *and* the tone controls are one (I don't use EQ, but I am guessing it's the same) there is a clicking at about 4Hz in the background that really makes quieter parts of music unlistenable. I use the tone controls just for a little bass boost on my in-ear Westones but otherwise turn it off.
[Galaxy Note II General] Aby_148:
Good info, thanks.

Totally agree, as the saying goes: "S*** in, s*** out". Once the files are good, it gives you the starting chance to tweak the rest of the parameters (drivers...software...kernel...DA...preamp...amp...speakers...). Otherwise - forget about it.

Ultimately though, the weakest link is different with any system. If your choice of software's EQ mangles the phasing to a point of unlistenability, that's bad. Sam's stock kernel? easy fix. Using Samsung's stock headphones? you're in a world of hurt, and don't even know it. Playing 256kb- mp3's, what are you actually trying to improve anyway?...

Once those "big blocks" are taken care of, only then we can start making true comparisons. But then, personal taste also plays a bigger role, since the differences are less extreme.

Another golden rule of A/B tests: One change at a time.
[Galaxy Note II General] stoney73:
Next thread will be the battle of the battle threads:rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note II General] Hatem basha:
neutron seems good. Haven't tried it yet I found Power amp very appealing and it did give me what I was searching for the ability to assign Album art for the songs. :good::good::good:
[Galaxy Note II General] Tuxxperia:
i'm using PowerAMP for 2 years on every android phone. I'm sattisfied with both sound and UI. I tried Rocket Player few times, but UI was not as good as PowerAMP's. I only have Koss Porta Pro headphones, but i think Note 2 + PowerAMP can squeeze the maximum out of it :)
[Galaxy Note II General] raduque:
Better speakers only make a ****ty source stand out!
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Well, I tried almost all players suggested in this thread. I liked most of them for different reasons. Some have excellent UI some have excellent features but finally the sound quality is the ultimate judge for me and I have yet found one that comes close to Neutron.
[Galaxy Note II General] tuannghia1985:
Power Amp is my daily use. But i Wonder how to trigger the Volumn Up/ Down into Next track/ Previous track ?

Once i could do with SE X10 Mini pro, but can't do it again on my Note 2.

Anyone has any idea?

Tks again.
[Galaxy Note II General] Elvecio:
Try the new black/holo theme for rocket player. I use this player for my alac library and i'm fine.

Inviato dal mio GT-N7100 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note II General] smoka911:
Started using Neutron player, really liking it so far. Might buy it after the trial
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
God, I just can't look past the butt ugly interface. If they fix it, I'll totally buy it. Now I can't even be arsed to give it a shot - it's that ugly.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
If I listen music with Neutron its not to show the UI, it's because I want the best sound possible. If I'm with people and we talk any other player can do.
[Galaxy Note II General] aliasretro:
Agreed, the developer needs to get help from a skilled designer, the sound quality is great but I can't use it, not only butt ugly but the app is hard to navigate with the non intuitive ui.

Other than that it's the best music player out there.. ;) I bought it to support the developer.

Well, power amp is my daily music player app now. Would love to see neutron geting a similar user friendly interface and I would throw away pa immediately. :eek:
[Galaxy Note II General] MSK1:
I use mixzing?

.

Is that not a good one?
[Galaxy Note II General] Shuaib_Ahsan:
Noozy Player

Talk about sound quality ?

You havent tried Noozy Player i think..

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/xrdcqsy0nxztt45/K3t2KSndrz
[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
I haven't found any of the players to be great for in-car use where you need really big "buttons" to avoid touching the wrong thing by mistake.

does anyone have any recommendations? if poweramp had a really good "skin" for that which changed the layout, I'd go for it!
[Galaxy Note II General] tuxonhtc:
Try Mortplayer or Meridian. Poweramp has nice interface, I thought?
[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
yes, I have paid for PowerAmp.

when phone is in cradle on dashboard, I want a control interface with nice big buttons so you don't need to devote too much attention to changing tracks etc.
[Galaxy Note II General] albsat:
The best player for me is the Huawei music player. Simple, free and folders support.
[Galaxy Note II General] madushan92:
I am using poweramp and it is good for me.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Neutron! Go to Settings-> headset / Line-out / Controls, Check the "Use the Proximity sensor for playback".

With this you don't even need buttons. Just putting your hand near the phone will STOP or PLAY. 1 Wave= NEXT, 2 Waves = PREV

Ideal for driving!:good:
[Galaxy Note II General] DarkDvr:
Google Music.

Having access to all my music is nice, interface is very fluid and nicely done (doh!), and innate support of single-button headsets is nice (as in double-click the headset button to skip track...).

I also use Viper4Android FX driver/app to fine-tune and cleanup the sound to my liking.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
After trying multiple player suggested on this thread and all the sound mods (Beats/ Noizoide/ Sony Xloud+/ viper etc..) I came back to simple Neutron and find it's the best sound for me. All those sound mods color the sounds too much and doesn't sound natural. I only choose a kernel with Boeffla support, the highest quality of files possible and it sounds amazing.
[Galaxy Note II General] zero_3:
Poweramp for me. Nice and easy to use interface, ease of use, and supports a large number of formats.
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
I don't understand why people think Neutron interface is so complicated. I would call it, advanced but not complicated.
[Galaxy Note II General] aliasretro:
Not complicated but ugly..

Skickat från min GT-N7100 med Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Galaxy Note II General] adytum:
I believe this is what most people would realise if they went through extensive blind tests. In my opinion, these software mods are horrible, and remain the emperor's new clothes to me.
[Galaxy Note II General] amerkiller1995:
I realised the same thing. For me they don't make it sound better, just different.
[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
I had a read-up on the boeffla kernel and it seems it was developed for the SGS3.

Please can you tell me where I can get one for the Note N7105?

thanks

Paul
[Galaxy Note II General] Kremata:
Boeffla kernel was created to control all the hidden options available on the Wolfson Audio chip. Since the N7100 shares the same chip the controls have been ported to our device. Now a lot of kernel for the N7100 support boeffla sound(Persus/Adam/Red pill, more..). If your N7105 have Wolfson chip just find a kernel that support this chip(most of them use Stweaks).
[Galaxy Note II General] pathologo:
That's the thing I always like to point out to people discussing Poweramp vs. Neutron.

Most music players could give the same sound quality as Neutron does, but why should they do when they would be eating up the battery and thus giving a bad user experience?

Instead they try to find a good balance between sound quality and processing impact which is a much better approach in my opinion.

I realized that the most people participating in that discussion all over the internet are saying that Neutron is sounding only *slightly* better than Poweramp, some even say that it doesn't sound any better but just different.

Considering all aspects, including interface and handling, most of them prefer Poweramp as it's giving the best complete package.

After reading through this thread I'm curious about JetAudio now ...

And because of this most people are considering the player now to be useless with Poweramp being superior.
[Galaxy Note II General] amerkiller1995:
I love Deadbeef, vocals sound better in it compared to all other players.
[Galaxy Note II General] arden6:
I have tried various music player for their quality sound and output but my search ended at neutron. It provide the best sound quality with advanced controls for music playback.
[Galaxy Note II General] angrax:
deadbeef have the greatest sound quality in android, also support almost all the lossless formats :D
[Galaxy Note II General] orky87:
What he ^^^ and amerkiller1995 said !

DeaDBeeF for Android is as close as it gets to foobar2000 on Windows! but if you are easily amused by fancy menus and gimmicky nonsense, Play Store is trashed with alternatives.
[Galaxy Note II General] speculatrix:
Looks good, I'll give it a go. I want a player with big control buttons which make it easier to use in the car.
[Galaxy Note II General] popoyaya:
Those people who prefer any player above Neutron are just not into sound quality. They prefer nice graphics. (The UI on Neutron is actually fine BTW). If you love music and think listening to music should be about treating your precious ears to the finest quality frequencies possible forget the rest and use Neutron, with the Boeffla kernel. If you don't really give a damn how good your music sounds to your ears, but think listening to music is all about nice buttons on the screen there is a plethora of options.
[Galaxy Note II General] Simone:
What's the lightest on RAM?
[Galaxy Note II General] pathologo:
BS! The "sound quality" differences between Neutron and e.g. Poweramp are only slight, very very slight, if at all, it even depends on the style of your music. And Neutron buys that with a much higher CPU usage.

Regarding jetAudio:

I now tried jetAudio more thoroughly and all I can say about it is: Fugly!

It takes several seconds to switch to the equalizer or sound effects screen and audio quality wise both components are a joke.

All in all very bad performance, including slow start-up, slow handling.
[Galaxy Note II General] evrest:
Before I saw this thread I was fan of Neutron MP but now I love DeaDBeeF..... very clean and neutral sound. I wonder if DeaDBeeF would had 64bit and dither functions then...
[Galaxy Note II General] TYA.:
Using neutron since 2years ago.

Just Boeffla app and Neutron.

I believe hi end head/earphone owners love sq of Neutron. Parametric eq showing its advantages.

Just change Q factor a bit , ex.0.5 to be 0.8 we can feel changing of whole bass and mid even cut of no change at 200hz.

This app need the user experience to got best settings for a certain using conditions

Deadbeef . I ve just trying after reading above comment. Yes! It give clean sound and can run 24/96 as max specs.

(I test pcm 24/176 . It can not, not same as in app's description)

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