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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JesseMT4G:
Not gonna lie, I wish they could implement a battery the same size as the 3100mah, but higher mah's. I just got a 6200 Hyperion battery/case and can definitely feel the extra weight for sure.

I got a bigger battery as I get tired of having to plug in mid way to my work shift. Kinda defeats the purpose of being a mobile phone. Most days I would get through a work shift, but there were those down days at work and be half way, plugging in....

Honestly not sure if this Hyperion battery is any better. Seems to be going the same rate my 3100 mah Samsung was going.....

Worse case, send this back and pick up Some 3100 Anker batteries to swap out.

Choices is always good. At least we have this option still, lol!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jlczl:
As a matter if fact, it's pretty funny that someone who owns such a huge phone would ask this question since people with "normal" sized screen phones from 3.5 to 5 inches probably think the same about your phone choice. "Why would anyone need such a huge screen when the average person would be able to get by just fine with the ALREADY huge screens of something like a GS3!" If I had a nickel for every time someone asks me that when they see my note 2.........sheesh!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
People have given them. While this battery may not be for you and I, there is a market for it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Aquaticbliss:
I use mine when I go horseback riding. It's nice to know that I don't have to rush home because my phone is dying. Plus I take lots and lots of pictures while I'm out and upload them to various sites.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
I know there is a market for it, and people are willing to buy them, hence the purpose of this thread to find out what is the reason(s) why people want to buy this battery.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
If I was closed minded, I would not have asked for reasons, right? The fact that I want to know why, shows I am willing to understand the motive behind it.

I really hope that we can have a meaning and mature discussion without resort to name calling or labelling.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
it must be a long horse ride?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
Another reason which could have been missed, the company itself is named ZeroLemon for a purpose they stand behind their product and it's quality, and it's true 9300 mAh capacity. There are only a handful of brand names I trust which have consistently delivered per their label, aside from their price difference. Plus a commitment to post pone a release of production-ready battery because tpu case (which is not even part of the battery functionality) wasn't fitting right - speaks highly of them. Of course, I have never tested their products and don't know about the quality until I have it in my hands. But based on all the preliminary reading and a few email exchanges, I will give them a benefit of a doubt!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
I don't ride horses, but I do like to go on extended hikes - 5-15 days. I do carry a solar charger, but it weighs more than the battery would and can't really keep up unless it's in direct sun all day. I'm also trying out a stove that generates electricity, but again I doubt it would keep up unless I keep it running a lot. It's very frustrating to lose your GPS, offline maps, and backup camera 2 days in to a 5 day trek. (btdt). Being old enough to have done such treks without a gps, I can get by, but I'd rather have them.

In my experience, phones go through a lot more juice off grid.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] opasha:
haha, i know man, i was just teasing for some added humor...seems to have worked :)

think of the note 2 like iron man. without the suit (naked note 2), he's just a genius, billionaire, playboy, philanthropist. with the suit (note 2 with ZeroLemon) he's IRON MAN.

sometimes people just wanna feel like a superhero - have that extra kick/juice in their system - like the charging cable guy who helped his boss...you could very well save the day, lol.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jlczl:
Sorry if I misunderstood your tone in the OP then. When you start by saying things like "working in a cave" and "no benefit", it gives the impression you don't really want to know reasons and that you're actually out to make fun of people. I see sarcasm in your opening post and again in your follow-ups to some of the answers you received, however; if that was not your intention, then I apologize.

Now I'll give you a real world scenario where it would be beneficial:

I work as an outdoor network technician for at&t. Before going to work I go to the gym at 5 am so that's when my GN2 goes off the charger. I use my phone as my music player (Spotify, Pandora, etc.). I then shower and go to work and many times I'll continue streaming at intervals throughout the day. I am out and about the whole day and sometimes am on the phone continuously

(voice, data, and texting). On really heavy use days I may even get in more than 5 or 6 hours of screen time before lunch! And guess what, I haven't had access to an electrical outlet all day. Can I use a car charger? Sometimes, however since I am in and out of my vehicle I find it very inconvenient to be plugging it in and out, and in addition to that it is a pain in the butt to use the phone while it's plugged in. Sometimes, I don't even have access to a car charger for hours at a time. Since my circumstances change on a daily basis I may hit one of the "hours without a charger" blocks of time without notice so if I'm at half charge when this happens.....I'm screwed.

Does this happen every day? For me, no.....but when it does I consider buying something like the Zero Lemon. You may think, why not just carry a spare? I have considered it but since doing that adds the possibility of forgetting it, losing it, it not being charged, nuisance of charging 2 batteries, etc, I sometimes am tempted at getting one of these just for the convenience. The size of my phone doesn't matter too much to me....that's why I didn't have a hard time deciding on the GN2 in the first place.

To wrap it up, I would imagine other people have similar scenarios as mine and likely more frequently than I do. For people in those circumstances a Zero Lemon is probably a great solution.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Aquaticbliss:
I'm not riding most of the time. Like there's a Lake we stop at. It's like a trail kinda thing. Keeping the camera, maps, tumblr/flickr/deviantart open for hours drains the battery pretty quickly. Once a month I go out with some other horseback riders to camp for two days. It's just nice to know that I don't have to be careful with what I do.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] srkoza:
ingress lol using data and gps all the time
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vitalij92:
+1

I even think of ordering 2 of these. :screwy: :thumbup::D:beer:

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Asquared:
I've come up with a few reasons why I'm considering the ZeroLemon battery:

1. Extended (multiple days or a week) business travel -- leave the wall and car adapters at home!!

2. Camping Trips (no available power, can still have GPS function)

3. Emergency Battery during tornado/hurricane season (both to make calls and to have a flashlight available)

4. Free up the ol' cigarette lighter adapter for car passengers and family needing to charge their iPad, iPhone, i-whatever

5. Stay at the beach all day, play music and watch TV on your phone without needing a recharge (or running down your car battery)

6. Temporarily charge other devices (eg. Bluetooth or other cell phone) via micro OTG / charger cable

7. Coast to coast or international flights -- watch movies, listen to music the entire trip

8. Power your golf GPS app for back to back 18 holes

9. Charge a $5 or $10 emergency fee to charge someone else's phone (just kidding!)

The only application above that MIGHT involve caves is the camping one :) ! From my point of view, I can live with the extra weight as I seldom have the phone up to my ear -- I either use wired headphones or the Note II's speakerphone (which I think is quite good).
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
You put in charge your phone on the night. But just imagine that you want to watch a movie or surfing web before sleeping and you are so tired to get up and do the work to charge...

It's just terrible to not care about battery life when you use your phone before sleep. Don't you ?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
That is a very good point about charging time. With 3100 mAh stock battery and 2A wall/car charger, you can get a quick boost in 15-20min, or a full charge in under 2hr. With 9300 mAh when you deplete it down, your best bet it to charge it overnight because it might take a good 5-6hr. I mean, in everything is proportional you can probable still get a little boost with a short charge, but I'm not so sure when it comes to extended battery. I guess will find out sometime in a week or two.

Also, here is another great reason I just found for using phone as external charger when you are on a go. This applicable to use with any battery. I run out of charge on my bt stereo headphones, and only had my External battery stack available. Guess what, External battery charges need at least 100-200mA of current draw in order to work. Bluetooth headset was a messily 100mA and I couldn't charge it out without going to wall outlet charge. Instead, I just hook up OTG cable and had it charging from the phone in no time!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
A lot of the places I spend my time in ah have poor signal indoors. At home it's something to do with how the place was built, my Wifi signal is poor just one floor up in some rooms. At uni, I'm lucky to get a single bar of signal at times, I don't know what it is about the place that does it, but it's an issue. Because of this, I get nowhere near the battery life on the stock battery some people get. I can get home from a day at uni with 30% or so left, I need to take my charger with me if I wanna take notes on my phone (hence the name of the bloody thing) with many hours left to go in the day, and the stock battery just won't last if I need to go out again.

Also if I need to navigate somewhere, my car's cigarette lighter/12v port has stopped working and I haven't got around to fixing it (it's not a fuse that's the issue) so I can't charge my phone in the car. This, coupled with both playing music, gps navigation, and constant screen on for the duration of the trip really eats into the battery, and a lot of the time it probably won't last the return trip.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] d12unk13astard:
As much as I like the thinness of my phone I think the extra weight of the zero lemon will make it feel less cheap and more comfortable to hold. I can also easily drain the stock 3100 mah by constantly playing graphic intensive games like epoch, wildblood, real racing 3, gta vc etc.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eddie3130:
Couldnt have said it better myself^ Phone dosnt feel like a 700 device. Some added weight does help in this story

sent from my Cricket Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
I don't want it for everyday use. The stock battery works fine for that. I have one single use in mind: college football tailgating.

When I tailgate for football games at the Rose Bowl I connect to my home cable box via Vulkano (a less expensive version of Slingbox) to watch football games from around the country. In the past I just used my phone as a hotspot to watch games on my Galaxy Tab 10.1. I've decided that the Galaxy Tab at 10 inches is too small. This fall I'll be connecting my Note 2 directly to a 32" TV via MHL and HDMI. I've tested that connection and it works perfectly.

Unfortunately, there's a flaw in this plan. When the MHL is connected to the Note 2 it doesn't provide enough energy to keep the phone from discharging while using HDMI out. The phone drains at about 30% per hour. This means I'll get about 3 hours of play time on the stock battery. (Can't be sure, I've only tested it for 20 minutes when it drained by 10% so I'm just extrapolating here.)

If I were to get the 9300 mah battery it should last for the full tailgating time of 6 hours plus allow me to watch live while inside the Rose Bowl.

The battery will sit idle except for 7 Saturdays in the fall. Unless I find other uses for it. Also, living in earthquake country it's not a bad idea to have an extended battery available.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] double1:
I have general anxiety that my battery is going to die. I just want a device that I can use for a week without having to charge it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Simone:
Reply to the OP, I have read your signature.

A smart person chooses the one with the removable battery.

Hence, buying a larger mAh battery gives more benefits and options to that removable battery.

Change is constant. Battery is too :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Slack3r:
The signal at my work is so horrible that it can easily drain 50% of the battery in 6 hours if I actually try to use it to do things. It's usually not a problem because the other 50% doesn't drop at all otherwise and I can easily make it though a day, but I can see why people would want an extended battery in some cases.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
Great point. On the lake or Hunting with 0 or 1-2 bars of evdo or 3g can really drain it. Full brightness when sunny doesnt help either lol
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lovekeiiy:
HML battery driain

I've had this issue was well. There is one solution, but I think it's crap, is to get a Samsung TV because it will have HML support which will enough power to power the HML, and possibly, charge the phone too. I haven't seen any other TVs, I'm sure there are some others, that have HML support.

The other solution, get a power inverter with two AC plugs so you can plug in the TV and your phone charger. I find when I do that, I can either charge phone, or the battery drain is significantly less. I use the cheapy monoprice HML adapter with 5pin-11pin adapter. It's also been my experience, have a good quality USB cable makes a huge difference. When I would to WiFi tehter, and HML at the same time, I was getting 20% battery drain an hour when using some general USB cable. If I used the one that came with GN2, it dropped to 10%.

On top of that, statdiums have a lot people there, all access networks. If the towers get log jammed, for lack of better term, I find the phone struggles to keep a connection, which causes even more battery drain for it trying to reconnect all the time.

I basically do this at work all the time because I have a lot of dead time. I also have no internet access except for the phone. I found it was easier to use my ASUS infinity pad, which as a micoHDMI out to mirror on a TV. This doesn't drain either device nearly as bad. The microHDMI doesn't need to covert the signal like HML.

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Plus, with the kind of weight, you stuff your phone in a sock and use it a improvised weapon. It's almost like using a brick.

I never felt the GN2 had a cheap feel to it. Well, no worse than most mobile consumer products.

I think this is a product that is no so much, most people will need for daily use, but more that those occasions, like camping, tailing gating, etc, where the phone is being used, and no way to recharge it. This is also why there are external batteries such as Anker Astro 3, Duracell PowerSource, and so forth. This just lets one have extra power with the phone, rather than carrying one more device.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] HughesNet:
If you ask me I would much rather just have 2-3 spare batteries in a picket or bag then have my phone like like that and have the limited case/dock/mount options.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
Here's my battery usage today. This is why I need the Zero Lemon battery.

That's with 4h 26m screen on, 2h 50m GPS navigation, 3h playing music (majority of it while I was using the GPS navigation) and 1h 25m streaming a podcast over 3G, also while using GPS navigation. All for a total of just 6h 18m for it to drain 92% of battery (as you can see in the screenshot I charged it a little, it charged from 55% to 57% in that time)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] HughesNet:
Why aren't you charging it in the car? Or are you riding a bike?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JesseMT4G:
You know some people just don't want to be bothered with charging their "mobile" phone...

I know I don't and have plugs all around me at work. Rather have the juice to last me a day and charge while sleeping.

On stock it wasn't cutting it for me, but on my Hyperion 6200 battery I get almost 2 days and 10 hours on-screen time.

So go ahead and plug in and Wear out that battery quicker. Also it's not good to constantly change out the battery as the connectors can wear out faster as well.

Fancy pants Note ||:)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] juliocmorales93:
For me it isn't about needing a 9000 mah battery but I'm the type of person who would rather buy the large if its 50 or so cents more. So I don't need all of that but I do need a bigger battery for the fact that whenever I play games or use WiFi hotspot my battery gets drained quickly and I do both pretty often. So I can buy a Hyperion or other battery and have a thick phone with a weird square or mod an otter box and blow more than $40 or I can buy this zerolemon battery that is around the same price with a much better design and will do what I want and go beyond that. Its like Google fiber, no one really needs 1gb down but when given the choice between 50 or 60 mb vs 1gb down for around the same price which would you pick.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
I chose to buy a cpl xtra stock batteries and an external charger and swap them out instead of looking like I'm carrying a dictionary around in my pocket. Plus I never have to plug my phone into the wall, can plug my external charger into a portable powerbank in my bag and still keep my phones sleek form while having the same or more battery power.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
Becareful with the back cover of the note 2, if you usally open and close it, it will be broken fastly ! I think.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Not really. I open mine at least once a day to swap batteries sometimes twice a day, every day and have been for the last 3 months and my back cover is completely fine. Polycarbonate is pretty durable and it flexs for a reason. I'd be more concerned about it breaking if it was rigid instead of flexible. :rolleyes:

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
It's not the back cover you should be worrying about, but those latching hooks that will break off sooner or later. It's inevitable :)

But then, your signature says you like to break stuff :p
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] :
What if you're doing a bike run across the country or state and want to stream pandora?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Well I've been popping it on and off daily for 3+months now and my latches aren't showing any signs of stress(lightening/streaking) and they latch completely fine. Maybe if you man handle it like a 5 thumbed ogre it might break.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
Actually I want to buy the battery myself but can't those to post to Australia.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
One of my latches broke off the first week I had my phone and I handle it well. Good thing it's not in an important place and I'm not ocd though.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] perryh1:
Check out comgateway.com little pricey but it'll get yiu the battery
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
What latches you guys talking about?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
The small plastic ones that snap the back plastic cover onto the phone.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Woody:
Let's ease back the language and attitudes. This site is used/viewed by children and teenagers as well. Sure, they will eventually find out the hard truth about life, but at least it doesn't have to happen in here on a mobile developer's site.

Thread Cleaned
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
The 12v socket in the car stopped working recently, and frankly I'd rather have less cables running to the phone anyway.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] weedahoe:
I came from a Droid Razr Maxx with a 3100mah battery and could kill it in a day of usage because Im always on my phone. Being on 4G certainly does not help. But I deal with all my customers on my cell and get tons of calls, text and emails all day. When Im in the shop working I usually have it connected to a set of speakers and am listening (streaming) music. While the Razr Maxx battery was certainly much better than my GNex battery, my new Note 2 with its Lemon 9300mah is sure to keep my battery bar out of the orange and red zone
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lude219:
I'd say it's mainly for those people who don't quite know how to use a smartphone properly. I'm also assuming they're same people who have sync on all the time (and not an enterprise user of any sort), have push email set to 1min (when they get few and far emails in between), a bunch of useless battery/CPU/mem/homescreen widgets cluttering up the home screen, using full brightness instead of auto, doesn't know what WIFI is, etc.

Just a guess :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
People who know the about the zero lemon will not be so noobish.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lude219:
To be fair, the majority of the people who buy extended batteries are the same people who cry about a phone not being able to last a full "work" day. If i go back 6-7yrs to where I had my first smartphone (HTC Diamond), I can't remember a time where i said to myself "man, this phone is dying after 8hrs!"...and 5 smartphones later, that thought has yet to crossed my mind.

One could argue that you shouldn't be smartphone nerd in order to use a smartphone and that manufacturer/developer should program the application (or better battery) to work smarter, more efficient - and i wholeheartedly agree. But for the most part, it's the lack of understanding in operating a smartphone that constitutes a short battery life. And for this, everyone is at fault...from Google/Apple all the way down to the manufacturer and end user.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] billybob275:
Personally, I just like having an extended battery for when I travel. I'm routinely (monthly, usually 2-3 days at a time) having to drive thru areas with spotty coverage. I like having the extra capacity in case I'm in a situation that I need gps using preloaded maps and won't be near a power source for a while.

I don't need it for daily use, it's just extra insurance for me in less than ideal situations.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] h3ck:
I couldn't agree more. I don't use my Anker 6200 everyday, but it was ultra useful when I went on a road trip to Niagara Falls. It would last 2 days and such. Also, if I know I'm going to be out late, I will use the Anker so I don't run out of battery at 2am, etc due to lack of capacity.

Unless you work 9-5p, 7 days a week, don't travel and use your phone super sparingly, it is definitely a useful thing to have. But if your argument is that most people are hermit crabs and wouldn't use a lot of battery and always have an outlet nearby, then I'd say it's a fairly inaccurate statement. More often than not, smartphone users are searching for more power because conventional batteries are outdated and run out quickly.

No matter your stance, having the option is better than not having it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kalanyon:
I don't know if someone said this already, but we will see a year from now if the slim batteries are still working or not. Batteries only recharge so many times so I'd rather get the most out of mine.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Suicidal Chicken:
So you mean those who use tla smartphone as intended?

You're a fool.