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[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Would you try to do? Hardreset, then install the old version and update and look what happens?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Yes now with the version 4.5 you can export/import your settings

If you have a previous version install just download PocketZenPhoneExport.exe tool. Run it, get the export file then install the 4.5. Once done copy the exported files in the installtion path of PZP then click on import.

See all details on the PocketZenPhone web site
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Frank2:
Yes, this works! But I can not import the settings from the previous version. I think there is something wrong in the txt-file.

Take a look, here is my file for mode 3:

<Mode 3>

<System Volume : 3>

<Phone Volume : 4>

<Speaker Volume : 3>

<Ring Mode : av0pw3r>

<Ring Tone : Mystisch .wma>

<Radio State : 1>

<BT State : 0>

<Headset State : 0>

<StartHour : 0>

<StartMinutes : 0>

<StopHour : 0>

<StopMinutes : 0>

<ModeBack : 1>

<AutoPickUp : 0>

<NbRingPickUp not found>

<Sim Code : >

<Mode Name : Zu Hause>

<Notification : ?(>

<Options : 8>

<Duration : 1>

<Wave : ???>

<\Mode 3>

I think I have to copy and paste the settings from the old txt-files to the new files.

Frank
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] am-imate:
Another way that you can save your settings is to use a registry editor and export them, install PZP and then re-import the .reg file. That's the way that I've had to do it because of some issues that I've had.

Zendrui - FYI when you have the problem with the "square" in the Sounds & Notifications box you aren't able to make PZP Setting Changes or Export. You have to manually delete the "square" from the registry and then you can make the changes. But after that the "square" comes back. I've tried many different things to see what is causing it, but no luck yet.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Yes, I noticed that too. I was on ver. 4.0. I downloaded the export tool and ran it, then copied the .txt files into the PZP folder. I then upgraded to 4.5 (without any problems) and then imported the modes.

When I imported, it successfully imported my volume and notifs settings, but did not import the names, ring or radio/bluetooth settings (I do not use time settings) for any of the modes.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Wookie:
Export Files with wrong Format

@frank2

I had the same problem with importing settings. I did the export with "PocketZenPhoneExport" with v4.0 and could not import settings with 4.5.

As you can see in the export file of frank2, there is an entry <NbRingPickup not found>. This one is wrong and bars PocketZenPhone from importing the data.

Once you correct the entry to "NbRingPickup : x" (x = ring count for AutoPickup) the import works pretty fine.

Zendrui: Maybe you can fix this in the PocketZenPhoneExport program?

Thanks!

_______________________

The force will be with you!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Yes sure. I can check that and add a correction.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Version 4.5.1

Here is a version that should solve the import problem

I tried by installing version 4.0, modifying settings.

Then I exported using PocketZenPhoneExport

Uninstalled 4.0, Installed 4.5.1, copied exported files from \my documents to the pzp installation path, then import ...

It runs well.

Let me know in your side.

(as always rename the .zip in .cab)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Wookie:
Fixed Import Feature

Well, the fix seems to work.

I installed your 4.5.1 version and imported an exported mode with the <NbRingPickUp not found> entry successfully. Very good. Thanks!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Fixed Import Feature

Great :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] hshortt:
Thanks j_metselaars and cimber

I've been to your site and downloaded the icons, I figure that by having blank icons on the screen you can avoid them appearing. I'll attempt to make some of my own and see how I get on.

Thanks for sharing your tip.

Cheerio

Howard
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jimmy-floyd:
zendrui

tell me plz.:

I'm having 4.0 installed,and want 4.5 ver.i dont want to have HARD RESET,I should unistall my 4.0 and install 4.5.1 and all will be ok :?:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] bacsig:
date problem

Hi Zen!

The PZP try set an item in notify database for 2004.jun.31.

TimeLog.txt:

...

(Time Switch Enabled)

Program Next Wake 31/6/2004 at 8h0min

Please look this. Thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
No hard reset to note with the version 4.5 but by precaution save your personnal data...

Then the best way is to uninstall the 4.0 then install the 4.5
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jimmy-floyd:
ok,thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: date problem

Yes june 31 ... :?

Here is the version corrected

(as always rename the .zip in .cab)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] VinTang:
Re: Penguin Skin

Hi, ilvanni:

That penguin are cute and skin is pretty nice,

but I am in curious, each penguin represent what's mean. :o :D :?:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] amir77a:
If I need to use the external export tool... what is the purpose of the export/import button in PZP?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
The external export tool is just for once for people using a version which doesn't have the export/import function to save their settings. But once you used it you don't need to use it anymore!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Re: Penguin Skin

From the picture of Ilvanni I would say they mean the following:

- Meeting

- Work

- Silence

- Sleep

- Car

But as I am not the designer I am not 100% sure. That would be somthing for Ilvanni to answer I think!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
What features for the next update

Hello,

for the next veriosn what should I look for ?

- time schedule with day selection

- sounds et notifications settings (the 'enable sounds for program/events ...)

and what else ...

PS : the version 4.5.1 is on the web site
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jimmy-floyd:
zen,you can make animated icons for diffrent profiles,which will be seen on today.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Re: What features for the next update

Animated icons is a nice idea!! Maybe use the set a couple of minutes idea as mentioned very much before???

So, to set from a button of the todayscreen a couple of minutes like 60 to have a mode selected.....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
j_metselaars wrote:

I agree with this one 100%! I would like to be able to tap a profile and choose the length of time that profile would be active (15, 30, 60, 90, 120 min, or enter # min) then have it revert back to the previously selected or a default profile. This makes it easy to set a silent profile for a 60min meeting and not have to remember to set it back again or deal with specific time changes.

This is the one function of a competitors (virtually unsupported) program that I miss.

Thanks for asking Zen !!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
But the "then back" is made for that ... no ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] markimark:
Re: What features for the next update

It would be great to start with "sounds and notifications settings, for example to change settings for the alarms with external programs (increasing ring with programs as stoptime...)

Thank you for your great work!

Are you doing this programming as a fulltime-job??

Great compliment!

markus
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Yes, the then back option is excellent! But the only thing which is meant is the ease to set a profile for 60 minutes. It would be very easy to set, just click a button thumbs big and set it to a couple of minutes, preset minutes, like 10, 30, 60, 90, 120, custom....

You know what I mean?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] darkbyte:
International installation problems

To solve actually the problem some of us have with the shifting icons I made a little change in your cab file replacing %CE1% (Program files) for %CE2% (Windows) then the program installs in the \windows\PocketZenPhone directory and works perfectly. IMHO I don't have a problem having a today plugin installed in the Windows directory branch.

You can post the modified cab file if you considered a good solution this little change (but if you can find the bug/incopatibility that causes this in ionternational 1.72 OS versions will be better of course)

Best wishes
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] VinTang:
Re: Penguin Skin

good answer for me, Thanks :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Please, could you first find the bug, why some progamms, like PocketSkype and PocketWinC, cause a square in the notifs-list.

Look here

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=46267#46267
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: International installation problems

I thought that the problem happened only if you installed PZP not in the default folder (program files) ? (If I remembered well if causes trouble when installed in a storage card ...)

Right ?

Oh yes sorry I will try to see :oops:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Zendrui wrote:

This may be easier to understand if I take you through the sequence of selecting:

From the Today screen, tap the icon for the profile you desire

A menu comes up with various time settings (large buttons you can tap with a finger) including Set and Custom

From this menu you can choose a time, for instance 60 min. or you can tap Custom and enter the minutes or you can tap Set which just turns the profile on.

At the end of the time, it returns to the current profile.

So, to set that silent profile from the Today screen there are 2 screen taps.

Is that clearer? The beauty is that you can do it one-handed without using the stylus! :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Ok I see and I will see if I can see how to do :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] tadzio:
No, that's actually a different use case. The "then back ... at" can only deal with absolute times ("at 11:45"). What BRosenow asks for are relative times, relative to the time a mode is manually switched on ("30 min from now").

The most common use case will be that your boss calls you for a meeting (and you don't know in advance when that will be, so you can't schedule it in the settings), and because you have no time to change all the settings, you just tap on the "Meeting" mode. However, after the meeting, you will have forgotten that you did that, you don't manually switch back away from the Meeting mode, and you miss some important calls...

So, the idea is that - before you go to the meeting - you not just switch to Meeting mode, but also tell PZP to automatically switch back after 15/30/45/60 minutes from now on automatically.

Well, as you probably have guessed, I'll strongly support this idea, as I will find it extremely useful! :-)

Cheers

Daniel

Edit: Oops, sorry, I overlooked Brian's answer and basically just repeated what he wrote. But at least you see now that there are more users wanting this feature than you may have thought. :-)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Tadzio wrote:

Hey, no problem. I appreciate the reinforcement! :lol: I wish I had thought of referring to it as relative-time versus absolute-time profile changing.

Thanks!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] tadzio:
I would like to propose a slightly different handling: a short tap on an icon just changes to that mode, like it does now and has always done. Only a long tap on an icon brings up the menu that Brian mentioned. This has the following advantages:

- no change from the current behaviour

- still only one tap is needed to change a mode

- the "Set" button in the menu becomes unnecessary

- the handling is different from that other program :-)

- overall, it's just simpler

What do you think?

Cheers

Daniel
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Tadzio -

EXCELLENT suggestion! I like the fact that, using a normal tap, the operation of the program is unchanged for those that have gotten used to it and like the way it functions now. The addition of tap-and-hold to bring up the relative-time screen is very good.

So . . . Zendrui . . . what do you think?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Yes I totally agree with tadzio.

Personnally I won't use this feature so I don't want to have to click 2 times to switch modes.

So tap and hold to have a menu displayed with 10,20,30 ... minutes is a very good idea :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Me too!! Looks perfect to me and would be an excellent feature!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] darkbyte:
Re: International installation problems

I'm using the CAB file directly in ExtROM and I don't have the option to install in 'program files', because in spanish rom %ProgramFiles% it's 'Archivos de programa' the software installs directly without user intervention in the %ProgramFiles% place defined in the international OS versions.

I hope this explain better the situation.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Wookie:
Bluetooth is activated when radio is switched on

I also support the idea of tadzio although I don't have a priority on the "temporary time" feature.

May I draw your attention on another little bug (as I believe it is)? Some postings already talked about the bluetooth state. This sometimes is activated as soon as you manually start the radio regardless of what the present PZP status says. - I hope I didn't miss a solution within this discussion thread.

What I found is that this happens as soon as you once stopped the radio manually with bluetooth switched on. Without PZP it is normal behaviour that the next time you start the radio bluetooth will come up again. The problem is what happens now:

- You switch the PZP mode to one with bluetooth set to "off".

- You stop the radio service manually.

- You start it again - and bluetooth will be on although it was off when you stopped the radio service.

- It will do like this until you stop bluetooth using the built-in bluetooth dialog regardless of what you do with PZP.

I think the problem is that the radio settings keep the bluetooth state when it goes "off". This setting is stored apart from your PZP settings, of course. When radio is switched on again the bluetooth state is set according to the last known state. PZP does only override this when it is activated (i.e. a button is pressed) the next time. I think the solution must be that PZP sets this "last known bluetooth state" at the radio settings whenever a mode switch occurs. What do you think?

Sorry for this long talk. I hope I could made it clear.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: International installation problems

Oh yes sorry I remember ...

I don't understand why I works on german rom (which doesn't have program files folder) and not on spanish rom ...

Make 2 .cab : one installing on %CE1 and the other installing in %CE2 is easy and could be a solution
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Bluetooth is activated when radio is switched on

As sson as I can use the XDA2 I try that.

PS : Note that I asked for new features but will try to correct any bug before.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
To Avalon99 : I just installed PocketSkype and PocketWinc on my XDA1. Then install the 4.5.1 and no squares.

But I cannot run these 2 softwares as I don't have wifi.

So here are my questions : Do you still have the squares problem with the 4.5.1. If yes do you have skype and pocketwinc running when you install ?

I will try to test on the XDA2 but without wifi card I don't know if the softwares will run ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] chopper32uk:
With reference to the new idea about a long tap bringing up a menu where you can customise how long the mode will remain active for, another alternative is to have a checkbox in the settings that when checked, the menu will appear when that mode is selected.

My theory about this is that you would probably only use this extensively for a meeting mode and never use it for most of the other modes such as work or car or sleep (well, maybe car).

Mainly depends what is easier, if the long tap turns out to be a pain to implement. Anyway, just an alternative, the long tap looks popular enough.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Re: Bluetooth is activated when radio is switched on

I think that this is mentioned as a "feature" from microsoft or the hardware! Because when I try to do the same you state without PZP installed it also does the same thing.

-Bluetooth on and then switch radio off

-Bluetooth off and then switch radio on, the bluetooth gets on again...

Maybe PZP could overrule this to have itself refreshed or something, but it is normal behaviour in the normal phone feature!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
That could be an option, although I really prefer tap and hold!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well first I will try the tap and hold as it seems easy to have it working.

And in the use if it is not usefull I will think to other ways ...

What time would you like for that 10,20,30,40,50,60,90,120 minutes ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Maybe 15, 30, 60, 90, 120 and Custom mode... (to set a variable number of minutes like 45 or so)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well custom will mean a window above a window, display the keyboard ...

Isn't it a little too much ?

I think that a range from 10/15 to 120/180 will be enough.

If it is more than that ... the "then back" can be use ...

what do you think ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Yep, let's say that would be enough! I agree, but what I was talking about is just 5 buttons as I mentioned above and the sixth button could be in the same row at the end. When clicking on it indeed the keyboard has to show up!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
We would be glad to test a version with this option!! So, we could maybe give you feedback about the excellent work you are still doing for us!

How are you doing with your donations and sales?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
Re: Penguin Skin

Exactly!!!! but the last icon is "Motorbike"! ehehehhehe :wink:

I'm a biker! :!: :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I will test this evening with 4.5.1.

I don't have skype and pocketwinc running when I install.

You don't need a wifi card, a installed pocketWINc is sufficient.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Squares

I checked durng the lunch on the XDA2. PocketSkype running, PocketWinc installed.

I installed 4.5.1 no squares...

If you can confim me the same on your target it will be cool :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
No prob as soon as I have a version running and tested.

For now 6 licenses of PZP were sold (3 at handango, 3 on pocketgear)

So normally it gaves 6* 5€ = 30€ + 98€ donation = 128€ ...

More than 100 licenses to sell and it is good ;)

But the main goal is still to have fun with the develoment and that PZP keeps usefull and liked ;). Get a XDA2 thank to that will just be a big bonus :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] tadzio:
Yes, I agree. And I also think, the time range from 15min to 120min should be sufficient... well, 120 min might be just a bit too short for those extended movies like "Lord of the Rings" etc. By the way, I would guess that movies and theaters are probably the other major use case for this feature, apart from business meetings. Zendrui, maybe even you will start to appreciate that feature if you go to the movies sometimes. :-)

But for those of us who want full control: how about having five "time" buttons (no "Custom"), but making the time for each configurable? In a first version, there would not have to be a user interface to configure them - PZP could read the values from the Registry, and every user who wants to change these values could edit them in the Registry. In a future version, you could (if you want) then add a new settings page.

The other issue I wanted to mention is that I would love to see those buttons being big enough to be operated with a finger (not having to use the stylus). But I think this has already been agreed upon, right?

Cheers

Daniel
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well in fact the only problem I see is to forget to set a silent mode.

But personnally I always think to turn to a silent mode then turn back to a normal after the meeting or movie... ;)

Yes why not this is a good idea...

The buttons will be customizable and when I will have some samples I will show you different window to determine which is the better
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] faisal:
Preset time values to rever back to present profile

zendrui

I would also like to support the idea of having a few preset time values (15, 30, 60, 120,180..) that is being discussed in the last few posts. Very often one forgets to turn back a silent profile to normal. That "other program" does have this feature

Also, maybe this has been discussed before but the .wav files are not visible amongst ringtone selections in 4.3.4 using ROM 1.72

Thanks and well done, not only for your work but your patience and positive outlook on things!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Re: Squares

unfortunately not :?

First I uninstalled PZP, then I installed Cirond PocketWinc.

After installing PZP 4.5.1, I could not open the settings.

In the registry, I found this keys:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\ PocketZenPhone\Mode 5\Notifications\]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\ PocketZenPhone\Mode 4\Notifications\]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\ PocketZenPhone\Mode 3\Notifications\]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\ PocketZenPhone\Mode 2\Notifications\]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\ PocketZenPhone\Mode 1\Notifications\]

After deleting this keys, I could open PZP Settings.

But the Squares come back, when I make a softreset.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
When I install PocketWINc it creates the following Key:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{710CB43A-0022-4b06-BD44-DD2764084E5E}]

@="pocketWiNc"

"Options"=dword:00000000

After installing PZP the Key is changed to:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{710CB43A-0022-4b06-BD44-DD2764084E5E}]

"Wave"=""

"Duration"=dword:00000000

"Options"=dword:00000009

@="pocketWiNc"

and I have the Squares in the PZP-Rgistrykeys.

I couldn't delete the whole Key

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications\{710CB43A-0022-4b06-BD44-DD2764084E5E}]

but when I delete the Subkeys

"Wave"=""

"Duration"=dword:00000000

"Options"=dword:00000009

@="pocketWiNc"

and the Keys with the Squares,

PZP works and the Squares don't come back
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Tadzio wrote:

Sorry - I was away and coun't get to the forum. Again, I agree with Tadzio - configurable times is an excellent idea. 4 or 5 buttons with configurable times as a new page in the configuration screen would be great.

This just keeps getting better and better!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ednap:
Sorry I'm probably a bit slow :oops: what is the function of the + & - in the notifications section. Is it additional time or volume? Don't seem to see a lot of difference.

Ed
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Pocket Me:
Hi Zendrui & all PZP users,

I have an idea for next version of PZP. Pls look at the image below.

In the "switch on" combo box, user can set the time switch for each day or all days of week (choose "all days" value in combo box).

The values in "switch at" part is followed the value in "switch on" combo box (the various values for each day or the same value for all days).

And could you add one more option of auto switch?

What do you think?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Maybe I see one little problem, which could be that the then back to option is totally gone! The functioning of the timemode is exactly what we wanted for now, except a couple of things, which Zendrui is working on... But I really think that he should keep the then back to option
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Urosh:
XDA2 on your way:)

I saw 103 downloads on Handango.

So I think that now you can buy an XDA2. Is it right?

Bye,

Urosh
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Re: Squares

Maybe I have an idea about why it is working for Zen and not for Avalon!

Skype just released a new version and there is a bugfix, which says, working now for XDA 2!!!

So? Could it be like that?