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[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] xda-rocks:
This program is absolutely great and support is second to none. I been using it right from the start of this thread and it just goes from stength to strength.

milklok wrote:

"call forward switching" in the near future (e.g. 5.3)?

I would alsio find this function very useful.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
5.2 beta1

Hi zen!

5.2beta1 work great on my imate Jam ITA.

I have only find a little problem on importing 5.1 modes (on backlight control) .

In Backlight settings 10 and 30 seconds are visualized "10 min" and "30 min"

(I prefere 0.15 min and 0.5 min)

I'll check for time switch.

Ciao, ilVanni.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: profile settings keep getting messed up

Let me know if you still have the arrow with the 5.2 beta 1

For ringtone ok it is now supported, but can you use mp3 for the notifications ?

I really tried to find but I didn't succeed :( I'm still looking.

Ah yes I forgot to adapt the display. I will correct that to let 10/30 seconds then minutes

What is the import problem ? A display problem for 10/30 seconds or something else? If it is something else could you export your modes and send it to me ? I will check. Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] fuf:
5.2b1 issues

hello,

1. i can't make use of the timed profile switch because the texts for the possible time periods are not displayed - only the configuration and exit icons are visible. i'm using icons from ed.zip. the time menu settings displays correct values.

2. i don't understand what 'Outlook settings -> When category contains' means. can you explain it, please?

3. again and again i'm losing some of the settings and must import the exported settings very often. this happened with 5.1 as well (see my other post).

thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
Yes, the import problem is it! it display "0 min" if i have set 0.15 min. 30 second work.

In my jam Tap&Hold for Tray version don't work if I set 5 minutes. If I T&H for 5 minutes it set to 2 hours.

other settings works well.

Ciao, ilVanni
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Not sure if you are talking about the tap&hold menu or ..?

It means that if you set switch to mode4 when there is an appointment with az category containing the word "business" it will switch if the appointment has "business, outside" category or "business, office" ...

No need to match perfectly anymore.

I really don't understand how this is possible :shock:

Apart if something clean your regsitry or if you click on the reset button ...

I will check that too.

Same for me. I correct
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] fuf:
yes - i'm talking about the tap&hold menu that should display various times. tap&hold results in displaying the configuration and exit icons only. the times are not visible.

ugh. i think that a simple checkbox for every category would do. the solution you chose is imho ... well ... easy to implement but hard to use (nicely put :)).

for example: i downloaded the 5.2b1, stopped 5.1, installed 5.2b1, ran 5.2b1, imported all the settings from 5.1, after a while all the settings were mangled.

thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Hi Zen, great beta, 1 problem so far.

I am on Vibrate at 9am then Tap&Hold for Display for 30 minutes

When I Tap&Hold it shows "Switching to Display at 9:30" but it should be Switching to Vibrate which was the original mode.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
You have some really strange things... I will look but ...

Well in the 5.1 if you had appointments with multiple category and wanted to switch if there was businees at least it wasn't possible. You had to decide if you wanted to switch for "business,outside" or "business,office"

Really different ;)

I'm sorry to say that I don't understand how this is possible :?

On a tray version I suppose ? I wil check that too ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] fuf:
please note that i'm using icons from file ed.zip - those are small in height - maybe that's the cause. have you tested tap&hold menu with those icons?

it's only somewhat different and i doubt usable for most (with the exception of those with compound category names). imo the solution should be to offer a list of all categories, checkboxes beside them and another checkbox which specifies whether an event must be at exactly all the specified categories (all of them) or in some of them. that would cleanly solve all most common requirements (see PocketInformant for example). the solution you chose is rather a quick hack hard to use :/ (please don't take me wrong, i'm not bashing the product, i'm just trying to help correcting some decision/implementaion issues).

imo straightforward thinking would lead to having three categories: "business", "outside" and "office" and assigning the task to two of them and not having two categories like you present.

i don't know - but i can assure you it happens even if the ipaq is hard reset :/
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I will try with that icons. The problem comes probably from their little height

But for example you may want to sometimes switch to a silent mode when you have an appt for business and also change to the same silent mode when you have a medical appointment.

So you can create a category called "silent" and associated it with business or medical category when you want to switch and let only business or medical single when you don't want to switch.

Thing you cannot do it if I let "when category is". If I let "when category is" you had to decide if you wanted to switch to the silent mode when you had a business or when you had a medical appt. Not for both.

I trust you but if I can't reproduce it is hard for me to correct :(
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] aureus:
Re: profile settings keep getting messed up

Ran PZP 5.2 beta for a day.... now the arrow comes up again...

I am beginning to believe that this arrow may be due to some other program.

Any directions to help me pinpoint the culprit?

Thanks Zen for your help...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: profile settings keep getting messed up

On the two devices I use to test and since the 5.1 I had no feedback about the arrow :?

In 5.0 PZP version the arrow appeared from some system messages I used to keep the PPC alive the time to switch. Somewhere in this thread I posted the code line. I will check if I find them.

If you remove PZP, soft-reset , and use a little your device do you still have the arrow .
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] fuf:
i know the limits of the previous implementation. but right now you implemented a solution which again supports only the other side (that is OR relation among the categories). i'm suggesting that you implement it differently:

switch to profile: <silent>

when category is: ( ) all of (x) one of:

[ ] anniversary

[x] business

[ ] dinner

[ ] phone call

[x] medical

[ ] zoo

that way you would support both OR or AND relation. can you see what i'm suggesting?

thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I tested only the todayplugin version.

If I change in Outlooksettings the category and forgot to save - my changes are lost. I wouldn't be asked, if I want to save.

Tap&hold works fine.

Is it possible to change the two little icons and the background color?

I agree with you, it is better then matching perfectly. But is it necessary to make a free text input field?

In my opinion, the selection of the categories was in 5.1 more comfortable.

If you retain your categorylist and start a inquiry with wildcards, you will get the same result.

For example "where categorie like %silent%"

:( Sorry, I fear my MDAII is sometimes slower caused by PZP, i will test it further.

Sometimes I couldn't open settings and sometimes I couldn't close settings.

It seems, PZP is employed with something, :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Ronv:
XDA MINI (Qtek S100) BT Issue

How do i set the BT opsion in PZP

MS or Widcom
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I now see what you say and the difference between what I added and what you explain :wink:

But what you suggest will be hard to display for people having many categories.

What the other think about all that ?

I check that.

Yes the two little icons are MenuQuit.bmp and MenuSettings.bmp.

Same system as before (pink color as transparent)

Background color is not customizable but I could add that in my to-do list ..

Update : I forgot to say that the width is limited to 20 pixels

Actually it you set silent if looks for the word silent into the category name. so same as you write: like %silent%

So it will match it your category is "resilent" or "silentary" or ...

For sure the settings window is slower. I'm trying to optimize that.

But normally PZP today plugin has not chnage many ...

I will check ...

What is your device ? On XDA1/XDA2 is normally BT from MS. On XDA3/XDAmini it is widcomm.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] JoeyJoe:
Hello Zen,

Great job on the new features, but the beta version did not fix my problem. The backlight settings still do not work. So I cannot use PZP anymore until I find the problem. I have to completely remove PZP then the backlight will work as it should.

My device: Tmobile/HP iPaq 6315 (USA).

Does anyone else have the same device running PZP 5.1 and the backlight works fine?

I simply want the backlight to turn off if device is not used for 1 minute when on battery power. I have PZP set to do exactly that, but it remains bright until the device eventually shuts off completely. If I look at the iPaq settings for backlight, it is UN-CHECKED. No matter what I do, it gets un-checked again.

Please let me know if I can provide more details which could possibly help find the problem.

Thanks very much !

Joe
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] tweek:
hi zendrui,

Notifications of other sort do not support MP3, but only WAV.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] siliconaddict:
XDA 1 does not have bluetooth.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] belcore:
number of today plugins

Hi Zen,

The same issue again...

What is the limit of today plugins?

If I install new plugins (PZP or any other) older ones are deleted from today screen. Only after deinstalling (PZP or any other) they reappear

They disappear also from today setting page :cry:

I am testing on 2 PDAs (Imate and SPV M2000..like Qtek9090)

thanks

belcore
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: number of today plugins

You can still use PZP by disabling the backlight settings !!!

And so it won't be applied when you select a mode.

That's one of th enew feature of the 5.2 :wink:

Yeah could some other Ipaq users tell if they have the same problem?

We will know if this is Ipaq difference or ...

Ok so I don't have to add mp3 support for notification. Thanks

Correct :oops:

So it is a general today screnn problem :?:

I'm not sure what is the limit but I think it is 12 ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] :
I have a iPAQ 6340 and have the same problems that JoeyJoe and many more. Don't work the power on BT and power off BT to change profile, the sim code dont work too...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] fuf:
i think that the Outlook settings would look like this:

[ ] switch to <profile>
[ ] when status is <status>
[ ] when category is {...}

by {...} i mean a button which when clicked would result in opening a window with a list of categories, checkboxes etc. which could look like this:

Category
( ) all of (x) one of
[ ] anniversary [ ] phone call
[x] business [x] medical
[ ] dinner [ ] zoo

{Ok} {Cancel}

with scrollbars if there's more categories than fits on the screen.

thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
No problem. Just it will be difficult if I cannot reproduce the problem.

But I will try to find ;)

No it is not ok you're right. For the notifications when you install PZP, normally it gets the current notifications :?:

Really strange behaviour.

So some questions :

Is it the first time you installed PZP or you tried another version previously ?

If yes did you have the problem with the other version ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Thank you very much :D

I will put your icons as soon as you finish them ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
No, it is the 10. Version, I tried.

You are working very hard. :)

I downgraded now to Version 3.1 and it works very fine.

In PZP 3.1, there is not a little square in the Notifs-Settings.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I'm testing the mid ring tone.

But one question : do I look mid files in the windows folder or just in the windows\rings folder ?

I ask because when I look .mid files in the windows directory I find files such as quietest.mid, loudest.mid ... which are not ring tone.

And so the combo with the ring tone is filled with no ring tone mid files.

So I was thinking that there were no default .mid files as ring tone in the ROM.

And then the only way to add ring tone as mid files is to add them in the windows/rings.

Moreover If I add only this path to look for the mid ring tone the combo with ring tone won't be surcharged by non ring tone mid files...

Do I'm right ? Or do I also look in the windows folder ?

Do I explain clearly :oops: ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
How do you uninstall ? I tried all the way but maybe this come from that ..

Do you uncheck PZP, remove it in the 'remove prgrams' settings then reinstall PZP new version ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Hi Zendrui, I think I get your point! the windows/rings folder is the folder specified for ringtones manually added through the menu. In the windows folder you will find all other sounds.... so, by adding a ringtone, the windows/rings folder should be enough!

ask me more if you need to! I'll also post a .mid file....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Here it is! Unfortunately I had to save it as zip, because mid is not allowed by xda-developers.

So, I indeed think you are right. Adding the windows/rings folder for rintones (midi) would be the best way! Because manually added ringtones are saved there.

Thanx
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
At first Time, I forgot to uncheck PZP.

I got an error: PocketZenPhone.dll is locked

So I unchecked PZP, removed it in the 'remove programs' and then I reinstalled PZP 3.2 version.

Everytime, I installed PZP 3.2, I got such Registrykeys

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Today\Items\PocketZenPhone\Mode 5\Notifications\]

"Wave"="oftware\\Microsoft\\Today\\Items\\PocketZenPhone"

"Duration"=dword:0053005c

"Options"=dword:00000000

Then I deleted this Keys. But after opening and closing the Settings, the keys come back.

Here are exports of my PZP registrykeys
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Biso007:
Hi Zen,

it's going more than just perfect :)

one irrelevant point but bothers me ... i tried 10s mid files as ring tones but none of them worked (only one beep!) ... is there a special mid files for ring tones or a special setup in Windows ???

I would really love to use this feature in your next version.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
The midi files as ring tone is now included in PZP (version updated on the site)

Avalon-99 I look for your problem ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Biso007:
I tried the midi version ... perfect as usual, but I noticed something I 'm not sure it's a feature or a bug :)

I selected a midi file as a ring tone ... the phone rings with "Windows Default" wma file! ... I thought it's a feature coz this midi file (or any other midi file) doesn't play except a small beep ... so I thought your s/w is smart enough to select the "nearest" playable ring tone :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
LoL :lol: Yes PZP choose the nearest ring tone :P

No seriously maybe the mid file is not a compatible ring tone and when you put it as ring tone wince doesn't like it ?

If you set this mid ring tone with the standard phone settings does it rings with .wma or with the mid files ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Biso007:
Hi Zen,

not matter what ... ur PZP is really SMART!!!!! :)

Seriously, even with standard phone settings this midi file dosn't play except one short beep ... I 'm so interested to know how to figure out that a midi file is a "compatible" ring tone ... I tried so many with no result.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I read that mid needs to be converted to be compatible with XDa. Look in this forum I remember that there is a thread about that and a software to convert them. Or maybe j_metselaars can answer that as he uses mid ring tones ?

Could you post the mid ring tone which causes trouble with PZP please ?

Thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Biso007:
I tried the one posted by j_metselaars ... it plays very well on the PC ... I'm using this theme as ring tone, but my wav version of it is 210 KB :cry:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
With the last version you can just use the 8KB version I posted! :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Maybe I can help! I hope so!

But indeed, please post the ringtone!

My posted ringtone is working on the Qtek 2020 and should work on every device.

It is true that not every midi ringtone is suited to be played on the device..
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Biso007:
Ahh! .. maybe that's the point ... maybe the XDA II firmware has better support for midi tones ... I thought it's WM2003 is what matters

I 'm not sure tho ... maybe someone with XDA I trys your tone and tells his/her feedback.

Thx :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] rc:
Re: Second Version

NBot sure how others think about this but i feel these icons are good and maybe can make it into the default icon list in PZP

if others want to comment maybe we can convice Zen to update the icons in the next release...

if there is someone else who has icons and wants to share maybe we should make another thread "Icons to use with PZP" where we can have ppl post the icons and we can have a poll and comeup with a new set...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Re: Second Version

I don't think that is very usefull what you state! Because you find these very usefull and other people think that the little man are perfect in use! This is totally up to your own ideas. So customizable icons as Zen already introduced is perfect, but don't change the default! Also some people like the left as mute and the right icon as loud, others like it reverse!

We could customize icons as much as we want and please keep coming with these icons, but do not change the default! Useless
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] JoeyJoe:
Re: number of today plugins

thanks Zen, but disabling the backlight settings does not help because the problem still happens. That is the reason I have to completely un-install PZP. I have spent hours trying everything but no success yet.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Ok so it is something specific for ipaq ... I will try to find what

I feel that it is less usefull and more complicated.

But that's my opinion

I personnally feels that it is more simple to have "when category contains "key word".

Like this you only have to combine the category of your appt with the category named with the key word...

For this version I won't change that, but for the next version as always it is the users choice. So people give your opinion :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
The best for me would be (it is more comfortable) :D :

[ ]When category contains [list of categories]

and not

[ ]When category is [textinput]
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Let the combo as in the version 5.1 associated with "when category contains..." is not a big deal.

What the others think ? Input text or the combo ? ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
Tray version and button

Dear Zendrui,

I have some problem with pzp tray assigned to a button (concept problem, no software problem).

My profiles are the following:

Mode1= Home: GSM ON, BT ON, High Volume

Mode2= Work: GSM ON, BT ON, Low volume

Mode3= Mute: GSM ON, BT no change, Mute volume

Mode4= Night: GSM OFF, BT OFF, Mute Volume

Mode5= Car: GSM ON, BT ON, High Volume without vibration.

So if I am on Mode 1 and i want to go to Mode3 I press 2 times the button and I have no problem. If I want to return to Mode1 I press 3 times the button. So as I "transit" on Mode4 pzp turn off all radio function, just in time to reactivate them on Mode5...

There is a way to avoid this problem? The optimal solution (my opinion) is to press button and change icon but pzp change profile only if profile is selected for at least 2 seconds.

So I'm on Mode 1, I press 4 times button. I see profile 1 change from 1to 2, 3, 4, 5. I stop press button, pzp change profile to Mode5 (don't stop radio function when transit on Mode4).

Thanks in advance for suggestion, ciao, Luca.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: number of today plugins

I noticed that too.

I wil see if it is possible to do as you explain but I'm not sure if I can detect if button is pressed 2 seconds or less ...

How that ? Unchecking the backlight frames should make that PZP doesn't set any backlight settings :x

Without PZP you don't the problem anymore ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
Re: number of today plugins

And a flag to disable some Mode from "button switch" in settings?

So any user can choose which profiles to use with button.

I'm not a developer, so I don' know if it's a usable idea ;)

Thanks again, ciao, Luca.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: number of today plugins

Hello Zen,

I think that Luca means not to detect how long the button is pressed, but to put a small delay from mode selection (the 2 secs) before the switches start.

This should be easier and ensure the user not to switch off the phone if the button sequence is fast enough... do you agree ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ilvanni:
Re: number of today plugins

Exactly! :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
For me combo with multiple selections option [logic OR] would be great: no typing mistakes, easy to tap.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: number of today plugins

Well basically when you click on the button it launches a new instance of PZPTray.

When this new instance of PZPTray starts I check if another instance of PZPTray is still running. If yes I just send a message to say 'switch mode' to the instance still runing and kill the new instance.

So at the moment you click the message is sent to say "switch to next mode" and even if I let 2 seconds it won't avoid the switch.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: number of today plugins

Uuughh, I see; simplest solution but hardest to change... I will think a bit if I can find out a workaround. :shock:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: number of today plugins

Me too :wink: There is always a solution, the thing is to find it then to have it working ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Hello Zen, would it be possible in PzP Tray, when you uncheck using a mode that it does not show in the list?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well how will you check it again if needed then ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: number of today plugins

OK, here are my two cents.

I try to explain my idea:

Sequence could be:

*press button and call new pzp instance

*test: is PZP running ?

- no: switch on pzp

-yes: kill new instance and check for next mode contents [now is: kill new instance and switch to next mode, right ?]

*test: next mode contains any "off" option ?

- no: switch to next mode

-yes: countdown popup window asking "Do you really want to switch to mode xxy?" If user does nothing PZP switches to next mode after wz secs (could be 3,4,5 secs, I don't know). If user wants to jump this mode has to press again the SAME button but I don't know if this is so simple to do... I think you should re-map the button inside PZP... or probably you have a better idea to do this further step.

I don't know if this is easy to do but looks to be the only solution not to upset current logic. :roll:

Ciao
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Through the settings page if needed. But that is the point, I only ever use three and if I decide to use more I could always go to settings.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] :
icons

Thanks for buying PZP :)

All the explanation is here http://www.pocketzenphone.net/switchicon.htm

But if it is not clear do not hesitate to ask me ;)[/quote]

sorry... still a bit confused :roll: . i'm currently using Only programmed switches allowed (start/end time).

but it does not seem to be switching at the times that i want. it worked for a while but has stopped working since. i have to manually switch.