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[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Rudegar:
Gtot

thats is what having too many today items does it dont matter if you use this program or not

when you get too many today items pocketpc will stop some itself

not sure if it's a bug or limitation of the OS

but my hat really goes of to zendrui should his tool remove that common pocketpc thing :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
I found no bugs so far for beta9. But one bug-like problem:

In PZP config window, I was modifying mode name, clicked on SIP button to call out input-method, but I have not finished modify, the input-method went off, I have to click SIP button again and agian for each letter.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Zendrui

Are you preparing to release version 4 tonight?

It is too quiet here tonight.....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] amir77a:
I did understand, how to create new custom ring mode.

I do not undersand, how to use it.

please explain.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Yes if there is no bug reported I will release it tonight

- Just for now time switch should not work with security code enabled
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
See here ZenRingMode
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

I have tested this ob beta 8, it worked for me.

My device always has security code enabled, I tested time scheduled switch, it switched to the scheduled mode when I key in the password.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
I am now finding the way to play wma file in c++ for you.

I am asking MS guys for this.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
What time (in France time) will you release?

I am planning to localize it after you released it.

Now in China is 2:55am in the morning, so I am asking for exact time.

:)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
you mean the beta8 or the latest which is the beta9.

Whatever with beta9 it also works for me with security code. But on some devices it seems not to work. That's why I said that.

I have idea to play wma but I need time to code it ;)

But if you have an answer I will take it, thanks ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
2:55am and you don't sleep :shock: ?

In france it is 21h (9h pm)

I test the updated on the site and that should be good.

So let's say in 20 minutes if there is no problem
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
With beta 8 it worked for me (mine is Dopod 696, the exact same as XDA II), with beta 9 I checked a few minutes ago, it worked for me as well.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Because I love PZP!

I hope I am the FIRST man in China who has the latest PZP! :)

Have you changed anything after beta 9?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
I am already sit in front of your "door" of http://zendrui.free.fr/.

I think you will release your PZP in your own website. :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

I have downloaded form your site http://zendrui.free.fr/.

Is it the latest one?

:)

I am the first man!! :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Version 4.0 Released

Here it is !

The version 4.0 is released!

The site is updated !

:D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

I checked your released version 4 cab file with beta 9, there is no difference, even the build time stamp is the same.

I checked with WinCE CAB Manager.

You didn't even change the "version 4 beta 9" in the config window?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I tested the quite Day :D , it's very mysterious.

The beta9 works better, have you anything changed, that has a affect to the securitycodebug?

From 20 Tests, it works at 18 Tests!!!

I think the securitycode and the powersaving have a affect to the securitybug.

I will test it more and over Midnight, but possibly I'm the only one with this trouble.

Is here anybody, who has the same mistake?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Oups I made a mistake. Update done.

But the version 4.0 is the same as beta9... I just change the title as the beta9 works fine and is the last ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well no not about that point ...

No just you must have the configuration that causes ths behaviour.

For the security code you set it to turn on after how many minutes ?

For the power saving what are your settings ?

I will try the same as you ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I tested it now with this Config:

Securtycode after 30 Minutes, simply 4-digit Password.

Powersaving with Battery after 3 Minutes

Powersaving with wired Cable disabled

SIM Pin Code enabled

Mode1 Outdoor

Radio On, Bluetooth Off, Headset Off, SIM Code checked and entered

timeschedule unchecked

Mode2 Home

Radio On, Bluetooth Off, Headset Off, SIM Code checked and entered

timeschedule unchecked

Mode3 Meeting

Radio On, Bluetooth Off, Headset Off, SIM Code checked and entered

timeschedule unchecked

Mode4 Bluetooth in Car

Radio On, Bluetooth On, Headset On, SIM Code checked and entered

timeschedule unchecked

Mode 5 Silent

Radio Off, Bluetooth Off, Headset Off, SIM Code unchecked and not entered

Time Settings:

Switch at 21:55

then back at 22:30 to Mode2 Home

When I leave my MDAII, I deactived it with ON/OFF Button.

22:45 the green LED doesn't flash, the screen is dark.

I start the MDA with the ON Button, the screen goes on.

The clock stands short at 22:30, changes after 1 second to 22:45 and Radio starts.

Congratulation for publishing the excellent Version 4
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Your clock stopped at 22:30?

what caused it?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I don't know, it's exactly the time, when Mode5 goes back to mode2.

It's only when Time Schedule, Securitycode and powersaving is enabled.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
The clock didn't stop, but the window that display clock is stopped.

Better to check your today plug-ins, such as BatteryPack,wisbar,todayplus etc.

It seemed two programs are locked each other, it is called "race condition" in program side.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Ooh, forgot to ask you: what screen lock program you are using?

I am using Omega One Lock Device. It is ok with PZP.

Today plug-ins I installed:

TodayPlus

PocketPlus

Phone dashboard

GPRS Monitor

PZP
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
I use no screen locking programm. It is the original security code and powersaving.

My Today-Plugins are only PZP and GPRS-Monitor.

Bye, I leave Home till Sunday afternoon.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
It might caused this way:

one program (a time-based program, we call it X) update screen every minute. when the time move from minute n to minute n+1, the program will be invoked (by notification), it try to update screen.

At the same time, PZP should be invoked as well. Because the X holds the time notification, so the PZP have to wait for the X to be finished. But the screen can not be updated, so it stopped there...

It might because PZP hold the screen handle (PZP needs to update as well, the icon on the screen), so this two programs locked each other.

If you installed PocketPlus, make sure you didn't select "update globally" option. This option try to update the whole screen, it may caused a race condition.

just for your reference.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Warning

Hello it seems there is trouble using PZP with the new ROM 1.72

The phone volume stays to 0.

So take care to have a backup of your XDA2 if you want to try PZP on this new ROM 1.72
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

samll bugs fund.

Please check your program logic, sometimes your program will deselect the system notifications sound in start/settings/personal/sound & alert.

I set the mode 3 to "work" and set notification for SMS to play a sound (notify.mid) and falsh. But I didn't hear sound, so I check it and found PZP setting is ok, but under the sound & alert screen (system screen), Program is checked, but Notification(alert, remind) is unchecked.

I have found this several times.

another bugs is:

with version 4, sometimes when SMS comes in, the red flash will not stop even after I have read the SMS. but in the version 3.6.2, there is no this problem.

In 3.6.2, regardless how long I set for flash (sometimes 0 - no time limit), after I read SMS, the red flash will go off. But with version 4, it SOMETIMES won't go off.

the problem is "SOMETIMES", it is no good for programming.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

I am quite confused with "volume".

In PZP, there are three volumes: one is system volume, one is phone volume, and the other is speak volume.

I understand the system volume is for alerts, notifications, taps on screen etc. And phone volume is for hearing calls when make a telephone call.

What is speak volume for?

I am confused, can you help me in detail?

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Speaker volume is the volume of the speaker who calls you. you can change it when you are in call. But in PZP it is disabled as it doens't work yet.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
So the phone volume is for ring tone volume?

and the system volume is also for WMP or some programs that play sounds?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Right (system volume is also for notifications)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Thanks, Zendrui, for your reply.

I have no idea about PPC programs, so what I said might be totally wrong.

The speaker volume can only be changed while making phone call, right?

So it means the speak volume is a kind of dynamic settings, it can not be changed statically?

Ok, it can not be changed when the phone is not in use, but there must be place where the speaker volume is set be default.

For example, when I make a phone call, I changed the speaker volume to maxium (100%). What will the speaker volume when next call comes? Is it still in 100% or something else? I think it shoule still be 100%. So the system remembered the setting when the call finished. The setting must existed in somewhere we don't know or we can not touch.

The alternate way to do it is, PZP accept the speaker volume setting, and register a notification in system, when a call is coming in and user picking up, your PZP will receive a notification event, now you got the chance to set the speaker volume. The question is: you must know how to set the spaeker volume.

for your reference only
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
and also, the speak-phone mode can only reached while you are making a phone call. It is similar to the speaker volume issue.

Why other program can do it? because it knows how to do it, and more importantly, it must have a chance to do it. The chance is the system is in the state that some thing can be changed, and the program has been triggered.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
PZP doesn't handle system notification or phone call. It just set parameters ... So if Speaker volume could only be set dynamically when a call is running, PZP won't be able to set this settings...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

That is my guess.

I think it might be true that the speaker volume can only be changed dynamically, but it should be set statically. Otherwise, even Microsoft can not set its default value
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jg1212:
In v4.0 the arrow next to ring tone in Notifs Settings works okand i can

test the ring tone.

In Ring Settings is disabled so i can't test the selected ring tone. Is this a bug ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] GumbErculeS:
As it has been said on numerous occasions the play back of ring tones is DISABLED until Zendrui can figure out how to play *.wma files. So no it isn’t a bug its just not enabled.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] jg1212:
Thank's for the quick answer.

I also have another problem. If i make icons 45*45 i can change profiles

only with tapping on them. The time switch mode doesn't work.

Instead it works with any icon 32*45 and smaller
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
Don't know exactly, but I thought that 32*45 was the largest allowed to make! You can make bigger ones, but then the coordinates, which PZP works with, don't correspond anymore and it won't function properly!!

So keep it to 32*45 or smaller!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
Hi there,

This is my first time to post a reply in here, however i was following up your program and others reply. I noticed somthing that you were committing that the speaker volume is not working for now even in version 4.0. I just wanted to tell you that I tested most of your beta versions and found that Beta 2.0 is the only version that has the speaker enabled and it is working perfectly. !!!!! so, I believe you can check the difference and update your version.

Note: I have 1.72 ROM version, and when i installed V4. I got my PPC hard rest ....Thanx :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
The problem with the speaker volume was that you set in mode 1 to be the speaker volume at 5 and in mode 2 to be it in 1. When in a call in mode 1 you change the volume manually and set it to 3 with the volume slider. After that call you change to mode 2 and make a new phonecall and the volume will not be 1!!!!! that is the problem, the volume doesn't change!

About the 1.72 ROM versions!! Does indeed anyone have the problems with the volume set to 0 all the time? And why a hardreset? What happened to be more specific?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
I will check the scenario that you said for the speaker and give u a feedback, however, having the option to adjust the speaker for each profile was better than having it disabled. am i right?

For the other case, I used to have Beta 2.0 installed, so, I removed it first, then install version 4.0, I configured it, and replace the original icons with the ones made by AVALON99. After that, I tried to soft rest the PPC, but I found it restarting as it is been hard reseted....hehehe...I am reinstalling everything right now.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hello,

about the icon sorry

I didn't write on my web site that the icon should have a width < 40

The limit is 40 for the width, no limit for the height.

About the speaker volume it newer worked for me. It always stayed to the level I set manually ...

And about the rom 1.72 you said that it worked with an old beta ? but hard reset with the version 4 ?

If yes could you confirm me which beta ?

And describe me exactly the steps you've done with the version 4.0 to have a hard reset (install, init though options..., add custom icons ..?)

I tell it another time be carefull using PZP with the new rom 1.72. Make a backup ;)

thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] j_metselaars:
I'm sorry, can't agree with you, because the option didn't work, so it was unfortunately useless! But when it works I really do agree to have it enabled!

But the hardreset! Doesn't sound pretty nice, although I don't think that it is caused by 4.0. Did you already install PZP (as the first app) and then do the same thing you did??? By the way do you have the problem of PZP with 1.72 to have 0 volume!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
Trust me I am not angry for the hard reset issue, it is ok for me, I mean you did a lot for us so, if a hard reset is the cost, I think it is less than the fair price for your work.

Steps:

I used to use Beta 2.0 coz the speaker volume was working properly for me. I started by disabling the program from today menu.

2- Remove the program from add/remove program

3- Remove the registry key in HKEY_Local_Machine.

4- Soft Reset.

5- Install the new veriosn.

6- Open the program from today menu to configure.

7- I select to use previous settings.

8- I found that it kept my old settings including the naming that i gave for the profiles !!!!!! I though that i might not delete all its keys in the registry.

9- Copied the icons of Avalon99 after renaming it.

10- I checked the today screen, and found the new icons there, and tested the Off mode, which switch off RADIO, it was working.

11- I soft reset the PPC, but it restarted as if I hard reseted.

Thats all.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
What is the key you deleted ?

HKLM/software/microsoft/today/item/pocketzenphone ?

If yes why do you ask to keep your old settings ?

Did you try a beta on the 1.72 rom ? Did it work ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
HKLM/software/apps/Zendrui PocketZenPhone.

Yes, Beta 2.0 was working, but i think there was a problem i noticed a couple of days ago, that the Bluetooth icon disappear.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Okay I will check differences between beta 2 and verison 4.0

I don't think this is the correction of the BT icon that causes trouble.

Thanks for the answer.

By the way the settingds for PZP are stored in the key I mentionned.

This key HKLM/software/apps/Zendrui PocketZenPhone should be created by the cab file install ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
It is ok, hope that u can solve it, and i am sure u will :wink:

Note: I would recommend and option in your program, I think someone mentioned it before, but I would like to make it more proffesional.

1- Integrate your program with the calendar, as when someone create a new appointment, he should find two drop menu, the first one is the profile name to use during the appointment, and the second menue used to select the profile to switch to after the appointment end time.

2- You can let the integeration menus optional while it is installing, same as in the spb plus when it is integrated with the IE.

3- It will be perfect if you can integerate a black list option with the phone profiles, which means each profile got it is own black list. For ex. If you are in a meeting, you might want to have HOME calls to ring, while others vibrate. So, when the phone rings you know that there is somthing important. And this idea could be integrated with caller groups.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
You didn't tell me with which beta you didn't have trouble on the 1.72 ROM ? the beta 2 ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
Yes , I told u before it is Beta 2.0
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Tekflow:
I have been using PZP 4 with ROM 1.72 for 2 days now, and have no problems ... so far.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
Donnu, but this is wat happened with me. Maybe it is coz of the Arabizer that I am using...specially that it is used to make problems with PZP. I donnu really and can not commit.....heheh and not ready to try it again.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Tekflow:
I'm using the English Extended ROM (no Arabic)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Panja:
Using beta 9 on iMate 1.72 without problems (sofar)!

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] goodliu:
need some help

I install PZP 4.0 on my dopod 696 (XDA II) yesterday,and it works fine.

But tonight,when I change some PZP's settings,I found the PZP program Can't save my setting,and after sometime,the phone Volume was set to 0 and I can't change it.I uninstall PZP,but the Volume still 0.

Is there any choice but to have a hard reset?anyone can help me?thanks.

ps: my rom version is 1.52.00CHS
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: need some help

Did you have that for all modes ?

Or just for one mode ?

Are you sure you did not set a ring mode such as vibrate ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Anubis:
I have the same problem, the ring volume in a specifc profile is always zero, even when I try to change it, the program can't save the new settings, also for the bluetooth, sometimes its on, sometimes off, without any intervention from me.

Also the speaker volume bar is dimmed and can't be configured in any profile.

I don't know, I can't hear my XDA ring anymore, should I uninstall the program? it's really a very good app. but what else can I do :cry:

I used to have Jgui phone profiles, and it works fine concerning the ring and volume settings..
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] goodliu:
Re: need some help

Each ring mode I set wasn't saved by the program,and I never set a ring mode as vibrate,I have uninstalled this program,but if there r no such bugs I do think PZP is still good,thank u.

I will wait for some solution,tomorrow I will Hard Reset my 696,sad...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] walterwt:
Icons/Graphics

I love the program, but would like to use some different icons without fully creating them. Could comeone point me in the right direction to some free graphics/icons that can easily be converted to use? :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] waladany:
Hi there,

As you are from Egypt as I can see, u might be having the Arabizer installed on your IMATE, is not it? if so, usually it has some problems with the PZP. So, the option is to stop the arabizer first, then configure the settings of the PZP then reactivat it again. Concerning the speaker vloume, you can use V4 Beta 2, it has this bar enabled, but it might have some problems if you tried to change it by hand while talking. So, it is better to adjust it from the PZP while the Arabizer is disabled.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
I understand speaker volume is disabled due to possible problems, but is it possible to have it set to full the way it was a couple of beta's before. Others may not want this but if their is a at least a registry hack where I could set this please let me know.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi

Please try here

Registry\HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall\InitVol
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
the value is from 0 to 5, 0=mute, 5=max

after change, soft-rest needed
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hello,

i will be out of France for 4 days, so I could't check the forum easily.

Waiting do not hesitate to post feedback about pzp ...

regards

zendrui
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Hi Zendrui

Good luck and take care, we all will miss you...

Does the registry I posted above works for PZP to set speaker volume?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Hi Huanggx, thanks for the post and sorry I did'nt get back to you earlier, training a newbie. After reset I check the registry key and it stays at 5 no matter what mode I am in but when a call comes in the mode volume is the default. There must be another key somewhere.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Actually Huanggx and anyone who would be interested in setting the speaker volume to a standard volume. Just played around with the registry and found the correct location:

HKLM\Software\Apps\Microsoft\Today\Items\PocketZenPhone\Mode 1 - 5

You need to select each mode separately, click on Speaker Volume and set to the desired volume as Huanggx explained 0 (mute) - 5 (max), after saving the registry I found that it took automatically when I went into PZP configuration.

Please remember playing with the registry is dangerous, I am not responsible if you do this and it causes problems.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Let me make myself clear. Do you mean this:

1, you set the registry entry to 5?

2, whatever mode you choose in PZP, the registry entry always 5?

3, but it does not make the speaker volume to max(5)?

I will find out other key in registry. the one I gave you earlier is Initial-Volume, so it should not be a default. Yes, there must be other registry entries. I checked the PPC 2003 SDK document, there are several keys related to volumes, I will post them all if I think they are related to speaker volume.

Thanks for your reply
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
Registry\HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\*\AttenuationCategory

attenuation means to make it thinner or smaller.

there are several AttenuationCategory key value for each sound category.

the "*" could be Reminder, Alerm,InCall etc.

so the InCall entry should be \HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\InCall\AttenuationCategory

please check this one to see the value.

I unserstanding is: the InitVol * AttenuationCategory = actual Vol

so you set InitVol to 5, if the AttenuationCategory is 2, your actual value will be 5 * 2 = 1. It is my guess, please try

I will continue to find other keys............
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] huanggx:
I confirmed that:

PZP DOES set the InitVol for speaker. But only InitVol. It means, just after a soft-reset, the speaker volume is set by the PZP mode that is on juet before you soft-reset.

For example, before you soft-reset, your current PZP mode is mode 1, and mode 1's speaker volume (in registry) is set to 4, then when you come back from soft0reset, the speaker volume will be 4 (the 4th scale in the volume slider). BUT if you changed the volume while in call, the speaker volume will remain the value you changed by hand, until the next soft-reset.

It means, PZP does set the speaker initial volume.

If PZP not installed, what will it be? I guess the registry I mentioned above would take effect.