yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
No problem, I think I enjoy doing testing more than actually using the XDA for the purpose it was made, I am just happy it was not a hard reset. My SpriteClone at home is acting up and I have not been able to backup for a couple of days (now that scares me).
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] boybi:
can PocketZenPhone be used together with RingToneX (it assigns different ringtones to different contacts)?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Same here. I realize some of our scenarios are just arcane and out of this world but hey, whats life without some fun!

Ouch. Good luck. Thought Sprite Clone was not working on XDA2. Are you getting good mileage out of it?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Well normally yes because I don't see how PZP could interfer with ringtoneX.

But someone told me that after installing PZP it didn't work anymore.

So I have to try on the XDA2 at my work as on my XDA1 even with PZP phoneext or ringtoneX doens't work ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] boybi:
i think PocketZenPhone will 'force' the XDA2 to use the ringing tone assigned in the Ring Settings of PZP, bypassing RingToneX or PhonExt.

but please verify this again before i purchase RingToneX.

btw, can anyone here know if i can use PhonExt with my XDA2? it says in the website that it is for PPC2002.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Yes as soon as the time switchs tests are valdiated I look that.

This is the second point on my to do list ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
4.9.3.3 beta

Happy testors ;) here is the 4.9.3.3

Switchs priorities are as I explained some posts above, and it schedules as discussed with k_kirk and Iggy.

This mean that :

You are in mode5 it is 10:00

You programmed the start hour for mode4 at 11:00

You have an appointment from 10:30 to 11:30 (mode2)

So until 10:30 you are in mode5

At 10:30 you switch to mode2

At 11:30 (end of the appointment) you switch to mode4

Same if you replace appointment by a time switch from time menu.

(All this assuming that the time icon state allows that)

I will try to make diagrams for all the sensitive cases to well see how it schedules...

(rename the .zip in .cab)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
K_Kirk like Zenduri I am aspiring one day to be able to buy XDA2 but for now I have only the XDA. Maybe I should setup a donation button based on my good looks......
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] boybi:
when installing the newer version PZP, do i have to uninstall the older one?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
It is better yes... but should work if you install over ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
If you do that I will donate ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Sorry, I think I'll pass. I'd rather invest in good code! Wishfull thinking though. Good on you!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

I tested following:

I'm in mode5, it is 20:30

I programmed the start hour for mode4 at 20.50

I have an appointment from 20:40 to 21:00 (mode2)

So until 20:40 it was in mode5

At 20:40 it switches to mode2

At 21:00 (end of the appointment) it switches to mode4 :D

My notif settings are still lost, when I make a softreset.

Since 4.9.3.1 my MDA freezes sometimes, when I tap&hold the settingsicon to long. Then I must make a softreset.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

For the lost when soft reset this is ok, I do not apply the correction :lol:

But for the freezes this is not. If you have any idea where it could come from (I tried to tap&hold ... but no freeze ...)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Yes this is now normal that you are in mode4 at the end.

If you look the diagrams (previous page) it is as it should be scheduled.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Zendrui, anything else that changed on this version that we should test? So far I have noticed the following issues :

1) Entering Settings screen is noticably slower.

2) My Outlook switch settings (Mode 0) were not imported when I

imported the other modes.

3) The drop down in Outlook switch screen does not pick up the Mode names after they are imported. If you close the settings window and go back again then you see the proper Mode name displayed. (Minor issue that has been there all along).

Also a quick question with regards to loading the Outlook appointments into PZP (tap & hold settings icon)... Can you kindly clarify how often this needs to be done? When you load appointments do you only load the current day appointments? If there is an appointment tomorrow and I do tap & hold settings today and not turn the XDA on till my appointment tomorrow would the switch still occur?

The reason I am asking this is because I seem to notice that usually my first meetings of the day do not generate the Outlook switch. The only reason I can think of is the fact that I normally do not fire up the XDA prior to these and run PZP settings tap & hold etc. I do think you may be looking at the immediate day and we need to figure out a way to mitigate this issue if this is the case.

Best Regards
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Hi Zenduri, I agree with K_kirk on the above 3 points.

Now for my testing results. Lets start with the bad, notifs settings still not being saved after soft-reset, maybe its just me, but it does say 4.9.3.3.

Now for the great news. I tried one hell of a complicated switch and PzP came through with flying colours.

Start at Mode5

22:18-22:38 Outlook switch to mode2

22:19-22:34 Tap&Hold for 15mins in mode3

22:20-22:40 Regular time switch to mode4 then to mode1

@ 22:18 switched to Mode2

@ 22:19 switched (Tap&Hold) to Mode3 until 22:34

@ 22:34 switched to rest of Outlook Appt. Mode2

@ 22:38 switched to rest of Time Switch Mode4

@ 22:40 switched to Mode1 (end of time switch)

fantastic job Zenduri. :D :D :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Hey Iggy, we should stop agreeing on everything. Soon Zendrui will get suspicious and think we are both the same person and playing tricks on him... : :lol:

Zendrui said in an earlier post :

Not sure why but he seems to have left this fix for a later version.

Ditto. Best keeps getting better & better. Need to start thinking of a new challenge for Zendrui... ;-)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Do you want to be Jeckyl or Hyde

Yeah you're right, I misread the post and thought it was before the new beta so assumed beta 3 had the notifs fix.

Well I was thinking I want PzP to know exactly when my boss leaves my office then automatically starts the dancing girls on my XDA. Anyone else interested.....lol

Anyways unless anyone has any problems other than the notifs, this looks great for me. Zenduri if you are getting bored over their let us know, seems we have a few demented minds on this forum that would love to add more possibilities to PzP.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

I will check that. As I add some correction mainly for the time format...

I will try that.

Ok I check that too.

Here is how it works.

When you refresh outlook settings or exit settings page it looks for the nearest appointment.

After it is automatic when a appointment ends (even if you unselect the outlook option, it looks for the next ...)

So in fact you only have to refresh if you create an appointment before the nearest.

For example it is 13:00

You had appt at 15:00 (still resfreshed)

If you create an appt at 16:00 no need to refresh

If you create an appt at 14:00 you have to refresh.

I just realize that I have to add a little thing for the release but this is how it will work.

Well how to explain why I didn't add the correction ...

Oh yes because I forgot :P And now I think I will add it just for the release as it is a 2nd good limitiation for the time limited ;)

Well for the next release ?

Haha you're done you're the same ... I see well now :twisted:

No not bored at all. You help me to improve PZP and this is really cool.

If time switchs system works with you I think it is a good test ;)

I will fix the little bug (import/export/reset notifs ...)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

So even if the nearest next appointment is tomorrow than it should work. Is that right? I will test this further & try to understand the symptoms better for those meetings in my calendar that do not trigger the Outlook switch...

By the way, you may want to change your code so that if Outlook swithing is disabled on the main settings screen (not the today screen icon) then Outlook calendar is not searched at all. I am imagining there may be people with huge calendars but no need for Outlook switching and they may be unhappy with the wait.

PS. Enjoy your lunch!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Yes it looks the first appointment from the current date/time. If the first is in 3 days it stores the date and wait un til the appt or the next refresh.

Yes this is a good idea I will do it.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] JaToAc:
so installed everything back again from scratch, no backup used. installed pzp and 15 min later my xda2 hang and only a hardreset could bring it back.

i used the last regular version of pzp without problems. perhaps it's the combination of the 1.66ger upgrade and another program. i first thought that pocketsnooze was the problem and didn't install it. but xda2 crashed anyway... have to check a little more...

i'll be back
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Thanks. This is great but it rules out my theory. I still need to findout why some meetings are not triggering the Outlook switch...

Meanwhile I noticed an interesting thing. The outcome is not negative but it is a little quirky...

Outlook Meeting set 4:45 to 5:00PM. At 4:45 PZP switches to Mode 2 as expected and changes the 4 way button on the left to time-disabled icon. So far all is good. Then I tap Mode 5 to override the meeting setting for good at about 16:50PM. The 4 way button on the left stays stuck at time-disabled icon... It should actually switch to the state it was in prior to the Outlook meeting which in this case was the time-enabled icon. Then at 5:00PM which is the natural time when PZP would switch back the 4 way button on the left changes to the prior state... I do think when an override occurs through user tapping, this 4 way button on the left should change too. Would you agree? Cheers.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

I agree :) I will check that.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Normally I did not change anything in the core today plugin.

I just play with time algorithm ...

But if you have any steps that allow me to try to reproduce let me know ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] lfaustino:
Loosing Notifications settings

Hello Zendrui,

I've noticed that sometimes I loose the notifs settings, but just by changing profiles. Almost fell asleep today :oops: . I save them and export them, but it keeps happening.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

I was going to post something similar earlier, I certainly think the time_disabled icon is the wrong one to display during a tap and hold operation, I hate to say it but I think we need a fifth element, sorry, icon to show tap and hold mode engaged, to remind the user that there is an override occuring.

I'm not sure if this is part of the notif's fix, but I find it annoying as hell that every mode change re-enables the Events, irrespective of settings - I HATE beeps from phones, etc. and this really bugs me. Zendrui, I know you added a debug beep but could you PLEASE make it only happen if events are enabled and preserve the user settings, even in betas.

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

The fact that you loose your settings after a soft reset is normal as I forget to add the fix.

But after you clicked on a mode ... :shock: I check that.

Well why not ... I think it is a good idea ... I will look that

Well I think it really helps to see if time switchs, priorities .. work well. As soon as I will be sure that all is ok I will post a beta without beeps ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] schnoeppi:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Hi Zen, please let the beep customizing for Users in Beta and Live Version. I LOVE it, because i have not so many Switches...

Please make a checkbox and a customize Sound for the "Listening Profile Switching"...

Thanks,

Schnoeppi
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Or just let it be based on the existing System Events setting - if that works properly, no need for an extra checkbox.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Really ? I never thought that someone will want that for the release.

I will think of it so ... ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

In case of a tap & hold, It would be great if the leftmost button did not change at all but perhaps got grayed out to indicate that something is "different". Additionally it would be great if the mode tapped & held gets visually selected as it does now but the mode that tap & hold will return to has a visual cue as well. Best way to do this IMHO would be to count down of minutes on the mode that PZP will return to and when the counter hits 0 simply return there and un-gray the leftmost button. There you go. Could I be anymore confusing than that? Sorry!!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Sweeeeeeet!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
k_kirk wrote:

I really like this idea. It would take one additional icon for each mode - perhaps the non-selected icon with something like a green 'X' in place of the check to indicate which mode will be returned-to. You would then replace the tap&hold mode icon with the count-down timer, so no new icon would be required for that.

Great idea k_kirk!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] schnoeppi:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Hi Zen,

no Sound Beep is only nice to have - that's it :)

But in the next version, please can you check your Listboxes of "Sort".

All entrys in Listboxes are not sorted.. You have implement this in "See Outlook Categories" :D

Thanks and happy coding.. 8)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Another good Idea, or at least if you could put reminders as the first in the list (it's really the only one I really worry about).

If ya can't get high on life their are alternatives.......?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

:oops: :oops: :oops: k_kirk takes a bow! Thanks guys! I hope Zendrui does not hate me for this... Keep well.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Ok I see you want to kill :P ;)

Do you think that the current beta is useable ?

I ask because some other people are waiting for the oultook setting, and

I'd like first validate that the current beta works well with time switchs and is stable (once I add the fix for the notifs after a soft reset)

If you tell me that this beta is useable without these updates (grey button ...) I will release a version like this beta and add all these updates in the next version.

What all do you think ?

Yes I will check that ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
From my testing and day-to-day usage, the beta looks stable and functions as advertised.

I'd say it's a GO.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Zenduri, I am quite happy with this version (ausser notifs fix). Look forward to the official release.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Zendrui, I think this beta is a killer... Looking forward to the minor fixes which you already put in. Please go for it as far as I'm concerned. All of what I said above categorize as "good to have" in the not so distant future. Kudos for a job well done!!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Can we now start talking about location based mode switching abilities??? :twisted: All right all right. Off to sleep I go. Let me not scare zendrui anymore today!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Come on, Zenduri is better than this, lets go for satallite based mode switching????
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Lol.

Really it is really cool to have users like you, Iggy that have so many ideas.

I think that a time icon state for duration running is really cool...

But as in 2 weeks I will be in holliday :D I want release a version with an acceptable outlook setting. And as I also have to upadte my web site ...

But after that I will add all the features needed ;) And buy a GPS ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Well I was hoping for a software based satallite switching......hehehe

All joking aside Zenduri, must say a well deserved vacation. Where are you going? maybe we will follow.....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] BRosenow:
Iggy wrote:

Yea . . . I could use a vacation too, Zen. What do you think, just you and a couple hundred of your closest friends! :wink:

I hope you have a relaxing and refreshing holiday!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

I believe I had found the reason for the freezes.

On my todayscreen I use calendar+ for showing my appointments of the next two days.

When I create a new appointment, it takes a few seconds till I see the appointment in calendar+.

When I tap&hold the settingsicon within that few seconds, before the appointment appears in calendar+, the MDA freezes and I see the waitcursor.

Then I must make a softreset.

But I found another way to get away the freeze. I remove and insert my sd-card, then I could start another program and the waitcursor disappears.

Can you explain yourself that?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Sounds like both software are trying to update at the same time and crashes. If you just wait for the appt. to show up (calander+ finishes updateing) then update via the PzP settings does this work.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Avalon-99:
Yes, exactly the same is it
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] ednap:
I experienced problems with the Beta not saving all aspects of my setup in the profiles. For example I had sound enabled for SMS received but found so sound played. I would find that the sound selection check boxes were empty and therefore no sound played. I re entered my selection clicked save and it was OK for a while but later after switching profiles the same thing happened.

I elected to uninstall the Beta and use version I purchased from Handango again and that is working OK.

I have just returned to Australia so in between jobs therefore no appointments in Outlook.

Ed
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] talisim:
Hi everybody and Zendrui,

I'm disapointed, because I can't find the last version. On your WEB site, the link for registed users permits to download only the 4.9.1 version. The link on page 74 not functions, because the ZIP archive file is corrupted.

So, as a regular and registred user, please put here a link to access always to the last version to try new features you add to.

Thank's a lot,

Bruno.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Talisim, try the link on page 75 not 74. Let me know if this is ok.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Zendrui, this is great to hear. A very well deserved holiday!!!

I agree with you. Given 2 weeks left for before vacation perhaps its best to freeze new functionality now, release 4.9.3.x into production and tackle any other bugs that may surface. This way when you're off on vacation we who have to keep the world spinning will have ease of mind! Take care!!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Avalon-99 I love your PZP icons! Are they available on zendrui's site? If not can we have a copy? Great work!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
And don't forget to rename the zip file after you download it to a .cab file... You mention the zip file is corrupt and that's actually because its not a zip file. You need to simply rename to .cab, copy to device and run over there... Please chill out and read the notices before yelling at our favorite developer! :-)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Zenduri, maybe it would be a good idea to have a section on your website with a link to download the beta versions, that way you only have to update the link once and everyone knows where to look for the beta versions. What do you think????
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Re: 4.9.3.3 beta

Actually it goes deeper than that, it appear to execute the selected mode at each Outlook refresh or Today screen refresh and therefore enables all those ****** beeps every time I return to the today screen from another program. I know this because I use Pocket Bluetooth Tools to turn off the BT automatically and use PZP to turn it on - I can enable BT with a simple mode change. Every time the Today screen refreshes, the blue light starts to blink and those beeps come back- yuck! I try to keep the latest beta installed to give it as much use as possible and be able to test when I suddenly think of a new scenario, these beeps have made it unusable at work and I've had to revert to 4.9.1

I was going to suggest a tap and hold mode icon for each mode but didn't want to be that cruel to Zen, opting for the simpler fifth switch mode icon but, now that you're the 'bad' guy, I support that as a better option.

One final thing. Given that there are other programs that control the ring tones, e.g. Pocket Plus and RingToneX, might I suggest an enable/disable checkbox on the Notifs settings. If enabled, PZP controls the notifications; if disabled the other product can do it. I ask because I find that the red led continues to flash after the notification has been dismissed when I use PZP, but not when I use Pocket Plus
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
:shock: wow I turn the head one minute and wow posts and posts

Well I go to Spania the 9 august, but I think that if I talk about development, Pocket PC, PocketZenPhone... at the beach, my girlfriend will kill me :?

Thank you :)

Well I use calendar+ too but it didn't happen too me during my tests.

I will to had some securities in the outlook refresh functions...

I checked differences between 4.9.1 and 4.9.3.4 beta, but the only differences are about outlook features... I will re-check that in details.

Yes very good idea. I will do that :)

I check the save problem and post a last beta without beeps.

Yes could be a good point to allow to enable/disable ring tone / Notifs set if this that causes conflict with ringtoneX ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Oh, you hero, thank you, thank you, thank you! Is it supposed to 'execute' the mode selection each time it refreshed the screen? It's not a problem for me, just thought you might need to know.

Didn't want you to get bored, having nothing else to do!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
When PPC is on (and only when it is on) it checks every 20second if a switch should have be done. But if you are still in a mode and no switch is programmed it does nothing.

So when you refresh it shouldn't execute the mode if there is no switch to do..

No really I think this is a good idea. Because I still don't see why PZP could cause conflict with ringtoneX.

But I think to something. Without using PZP, if you parameter ringtoneX, then go to settings->phone and change the default ring tone, does it causes that the ringtoneX doesn't ring anymore with the ring specified for your contact but with the default ringtone for all you contacts ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
I'll monitor this with the new version.

I don't use RingToneX myself, I use Pocket Plus, I simply noticed another user asking this sort of question earlier but it should apply to both. With PP, whatever you set in PP is what is used, irrespective of Settings | Phone values I believe - you shouldn't change values via Settings | Phone but via PP's settings.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
4.9.3.5 beta

Ok here is the 4.9.3.5 beta version :

- I add the notif soft reset fix

- Remove the beeps

I tried to soft reset, change mode many times, the settings are not reseted (I think the problem came from the soft rest / notif lost problem, because I check and the save function is the same as in version 4.9.1)

I also try to click on icons fastly but apart a freeze for some seconds when it turns on/off the radio it doens't cause any trouble (or definitive freeze that needs a soft reset)

Schnoeppi sorry I didn't sort the combos as for some I am based on indexes. I will modify that for the next version.

(So as always rename the .zip to .cab ;) )