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[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Testing recurring appointments mod

Hi

Didn't realise you'd made this mod. Must have missed a post on the past few pages. Anyway, have downloaded the beta version and am testing the recurring appointment function.

Already have many recurring appointments in my calendar and this function is going to be useful.

Initial testing so far has gone well. PZP is Outlook mode switching for new recurring appointments and for existing recurring appointments created some time in the past. This is for real-time switching for appointment times I have modified to be now for a period of 5 minutes for new and existing recurring appointments.

Just done an overnight test by manually changing the time on my XDAII:

- In Mode 1 at 18:59

- Time switch to Mode 5 at 19:00 - OK

- Outlook switch based on category to Mode 4 at 22:00 - OK

- Time switch to Mode 2 at 22:30 - didn't execute - OK

- Outlook appointment finish at 06:00, should have returned to Mode 5 - didn't work

- Time switch at 06:45 to Mode 1 - didn't execute

Now stuck in Outlook switched mode with the Outlook icon at the left of the PZP.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Testing recurring appointments mod

ok good

No normally here you should be back to mode2 as during the outlook appointment it stores that a switch to mode2 should happen (see picture)

This is not normal. Just click on the time icon to switch it to normal.

Could you post also your timelog file ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: Testing recurring appointments mod

OK, understand this. Will have to make sure my timings are more accurate. My mode 2 is Radio Off so don't want a period of Radio Off if I have an overnight appointment in place. My overnight appointments are 'Pager', i.e. Out of Hours On Call. Imagine the ranting the next day if no-one could get in touch for a period of time!

Had a vision you might ask for the log file so had it ready. Should have posted with the previous message, but had clicked submit already...

Attached a zip file now 'cos txt file is 1.5Mb.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] alnasser:
HI

sorry for late....i was in holiday..any way

you just install the program after installed in your device will be restart automatic >>>now it is work DEMO it does not matter

this program featuers

1-make device read/write arabic langauge

2-new key board by arabic letter

you can enable or disable this featuer by go to

STAR>>SETTINGS>>SYSTEM>>ARABIC SETTING>>CONTROL

sorry for my bad EN

regards
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 1

Actually guys, if we look back to the testing K_kirk and I did back at page 74/75 the outlook appt. worked with the tap&hold as well here is a snippet below from page 75.

Now for the great news. I tried one hell of a complicated switch and PzP came through with flying colours.

Update: we also decided that if all switches was active that everything would work so if I tap&hold to the loudest profile for 60mins and I had a business appt. for say 20mins my phone would not ring during my business appt.

Start at Mode5

22:18-22:38 Outlook switch to mode2

22:19-22:34 Tap&Hold for 15mins in mode3

22:20-22:40 Regular time switch to mode4 then to mode1

@ 22:18 switched to Mode2

@ 22:19 switched (Tap&Hold) to Mode3 until 22:34

@ 22:34 switched to rest of Outlook Appt. Mode2

@ 22:38 switched to rest of Time Switch Mode4

@ 22:40 switched to Mode1 (end of time switch)

fantastic job Zenduri.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
I agree with your example. However, zendrui and I are on the same wavelength I think. We're thinking that if you have a current tap&hold then any Outlook or Time switch will not occur.

However, now writing this I am starting to understand your query. Is this correct?

Tap&Hold @ 18:00 for 15 mins

Outlook switch due at 18:05 for 20 mins - does not occur - CORRECT

Tap&Hold finishes @ 18:15

Should do Outlook switch, originally due at 18:05, at 18:15 for the last 5 mins of the Outlook switch. Is this the part not executing?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 1

:D Great news. Thank you to think of such a complicated switch, and to validate them ;)

I hope your holidays were great ;)

For the arabization program if I understand well, I just have to install it then normally it will cause that the PZP settings won't be saved anymore ? Right ? If yes I will try that.

Thanks. I look that and tell you

Note for all the users : You can sometimes delete the timelog if it becomes too big. PZP will re-create automatically so don't hesitate ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 1

Does PZP have a maximum size for this log file or does it just keep growing?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 1

Well I was thinking to limit it to a size but I forgot to add that in the version 5.0 so it keeps growing :oops:

I will do that for the next release to avoid a 1Mb timelog :?

I will had this comment to my web site.

I looked your timelog, in fact it seems that at 6:0 the end of the outlook appt had not be validated and so PZP is stayed as if an outlook appt was running. And so of course the time switch to mode1 at 6:45 cannot happen.

What I don't understand is why the outlook end didn't happen.

I will try an overnight outlook switch to see.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Yes and no. Yes I am saying that the outlook switch does not work even after tap&hold is finished it switch.

But as can be seen from my previous testing (last post cut from page 75)it did work.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Had to hard-reset today (nothing to do with PZP) so I decided to test this on a totally clean device. Looks like it must be a ROM issue because it still does it with no other software installed straight after the reset and reboot. If anyone else out there has an O2 Xda II with the 1.60.00 ROM on it and can test this I'd appreciate it.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Tried this and here are my results:

As per your original tests - worked OK

Start - Mode 5

14:37 - 14:57 - Outlook appointment - mode 4

14:40 - 14:55 - Tap&Hold - mode 3

So...

Start Mode 5

14:37 Outlook switch to mode 4 - OK

14:40 Tap&Hold mode 3 for 15 mins - OK

14:55 Tap&Hold ends - return to mode 4 - OK

14:57 Outlook appt ends - return to mode 5 - OK

However, if you have a tap&hold in place before an Outlook appt then Outlook appt switch does not occur:

Start - Mode 5

15:00 - 15:15 Tap&Hold - mode 3

15:05 - 15:25 Outlook appointment - mode 4

So...

Start Mode 5

15:00 Tap&Hold mode 3 for 15 mins - OK

15:05 Outlook switch to mode 4 - does not execute - OK

15:15 Tap&Hold ends - should switch to mode 4 as per current Outlook appt? - returns to mode 5 as per start

Is the above correct? Or should it take into account the current Outlook appointment switch and activate that?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Just tried the following test to ensure it works and it was OK:

Start Mode 1

Tap&Hold Mode 5 for 15 mins

Timed start at 15:35 to Mode 3

Timed return at 15:50 to Mode 1

So...

Start Mode 1

15:30 Tap&Hold Mode 5 for 15 mins - OK

15:35 Timed start to mode 3 - did not execute - OK

15:45 Tap&Hold ends swap to mode 3 as per timed setting - OK

15:50 Return to Mode 1 - OK

This works great. It would appear the Outlook appointment doesn't activate if a Tap&Hold is already active.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: Switch does not occur in V5

Yes, I did exactly this job. After new installation and some days under control I can really say it works.

I did not miss one switch anymore. 8)

Bye
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I tried on the 1.66WWE english rom on Qtek2020 and on my xda1 ...

It should take in account the outlook appt.

So normally at 15:15 you should be back in mode 4 and at 15:25 back in mode 5 (see pictures)

Priority just means that the switch doesn't happen if a higher priority switch is running but PZP saves it and comes back to the mode as if the lower priority switch was happening (I hope I explain clearly :? )
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Switch does not occur in V5

Thanks for telling this good feedback :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
mvsmith07, that is correct it does not, but did before.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
You have, and I do understand. However, I think from my and iggy's testing it doesn't appear to be working like this anymore. The switch to the Outlook appt mode doesn't happen if the Tap&Hold is already active.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I just tried that

- 18:30

- I set an appt at 18:35 to 18:50 (so if I am in mode 4 at 18:35 I go to mode 2)

- I am in mode 3

- I Tap&Hold mode 4 for 15min

- At 18:35 nothing (normal the duration is running)

- At 18:45 end of the duration -> back to mode 2 (as the outlook appt is still running and because I was in mode 4 at 18:35)

- At 18h50 end of outlook appt -> back to mode 3

:? It works for me as expected
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Aha, I see where our differences in testing are now. I don't know about iggy's testing, but I know where my testing is different to your steps above and, perhaps, where I'm going wrong in understanding the config of PZP or perhaps where a little tweak is needed to PZP.

I wasn't tap&holding on the profile with the active Outlook switch enabled.

Using your example above:

- at 18:30 I would be in mode 4

- there is an Outlook appt for 18:35 to 18:50 from mode 4 to mode 2 - if nothing else was pressed PZP would change to mode 2 at 18:35

- at 18:30, I am in mode 4, I tap&hold on mode 3 for 15mins

- at 18:45 it returns to mode 4, but the Outlook appt switch from mode 4 to mode 2 due to start at 18:35 is not activated

In earlier betas of version 5 I think there was only one Outlook switching value and covered all profiles. This would mean an Outlook switch would always happen regardless of which profile was currently active. I think this is where iggy's testing passed successfully.

Now each profile can have it's own Outlook switching value. An excellent addition to PZP as you can have several configs of Outlook switching depending on the active profile.

However, I think my example above is still a valid set of clicks. For example, on a Monday I will have the following:

Upto 18:59 - Mode 1 (Daytime - loudest profile)

At 19:00 Time switch to Mode 5 (Home - quieter profile so any rings don't wake the children)

At 22:00 Outlook switch if in Mode 5 to Mode 4 (On call profile for overnight - quiet ring, loud messages)

I play badminton between 20:00 and 22:00. At 20:05 I will be in Mode 5. I will tap&hold on mode 1 (loudest) for 120mins to ensure I hear (hopefully) the phone when it's in my bag. This means the end time of the tap&hold will be 22:05.

At 22:05 I will return to mode 5.

The Outlook appointment start time (22:00) would have just passed.

I would still like the profile to change from mode 5 to Mode 4 as specified by the Outlook appt 22:00-06:00, but I don't think it will given the current outcome of testing.

My mode 5 profile has the outlook config to change to mode 4 on an appt with category "Pager".

Now I know PZP allows for different Outlook configs for each profile I would like my mode 1 Outlook config to change to mode 3 on an Outlook appt with category "Meeting". Therefore, I can't config the Outlook settings for mode 1 to change to mode 4 on an appt with category "Pager" as well.

I hope the above isn't too much waffle :? I hope you have been able to understand the outcome I would like, i.e. tap&hold on a profile with no active Outlook settings, but on return to a profile with active Outlook settings to execute an Outlook switch if one should be required.[/b]
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] alnasser:
Re: Version 5.1 beta 1

yes that is right

good luck
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
No you use PZP so you're not nut at all :P

Thanks mvsmith07 for your tests and explanations.

I see now what you both are explaining :roll: and what are the differences between our tests.

So I think I can consider that PZP works as it is programmed to ? right ?

But that you'd like to have the choice to select for each mode a diffrent outlook setttings depending on the category.

For example for mode 4 switch to mode 3 if cateory is meeting, but switch to mode 1 if category is pager for example ? Right ?

If yes and if this is a feature that will usefull for many people why not ? I can look for that for a next release ?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
If I also understand well, when you come back to a mode after a tap&hold, that normally would have switched to an outlook mode, you'd like that it switchs to the outlook mode as if the tap&hold wouldn't have been done (:? complicated to explain that).

I think this is possible. I just don't see if this is a good idea or not ..?

As always if this is what the users want I will change that ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Yep, spot on. Tap&Hold on a profile with active Outlook settings does the changes as it should.

I, personally, don't need this feature immediately. However, it would be an excellent addition to PZP.

Exactly :D

I suppose having one or the other of the above features would solve this tap&hold problem.

Having multiple outlook configs per profile would be useful for setting up various changes of profile depending on category, but could get confusing if you're trying to handle tap&holds as well.

I think having PZP, on return from a tap&hold, to a profile with an active outlook setting, to check if an outlook switch should have taken place is my preferred choice. No multiple configs necessary.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
This is exactly what I had hoped the Categories feature would add originally, please, please, please consider it for the next version. I sometimes have appointments in places where there is medical equipment and the phone has to be OFF not muted, so I have Do Not Disturb category -> Discrete mode, Phone Off category -> Home mode.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
I have to figure out what could be the possibilities and the different cases but why not ...

What the other think of that ?

This is more complicated but possible of course.

I will note that for a next release ;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Overnight outlook switching

Hi again

Did you have a chance to think about this issue on top of the other major discussion we've been having? I tried this in real-time mode last night. The Outlook switch from mode 5 to mode 4 happened at 22:00. But the Outlook switch back to Mode 5 when the appt finished at 06:00 didn't. It stayed in "Outlook switched" mode.

Thanks once again for your prompt responses on all our posts.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Overnight outlook switching

:oops: I forgot to set an outlook appt overnight.

I will try that without fault :!:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Arabization : I tried and reproduce the problem.

But it doesn't come from the registry read/write error.

It comes from the fact that with the arabization the read of the combo boxes in the PZP settings page failed ! Why I don't know I will look that...

German OS : A question for those who have a german WM2003 on their XDA. What statuses are displayed in outlook when you create an appointment ? I seems that there is not busy,out of office ... but german equivalent words ...

So I think that if you select busy it will work, because busy = 2, free = 0 ... but it would be better if in the settings I displayed the real german words ...

Update :

Outlook over midnight :

I set an outlook appt from 23:00 to 00:30

And mode5 start at 01:00

at 22:50 I'm in mode4

at 23:00 switch to mode2 (due to outlook appt start)

at 00:30 back to mode4

at 01:00 mode5 starts

Will try more but it seems to wok for me

So at 23:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
I'm out at a meeting all day today, so will give this another try this evening again.

Something I noticed last night was the recurring outlook switch due at 22.00 didn't happen. It worked the night before, but didn't switch back the morning after,but then didn't activate last night.

I'll look more tonight.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] izeman:
@zendrui

sorry to ask - but i'm just to lazy to read all 10 pages back ;)

is the "turn on bluetooth on powersupply" already included? or is there a thought to integrate it? or maybe it is impossible?

this would be a REAL POWERSAVER ...

could you pls make a short statement?

thanks

regards ize|man
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hello,

no this feature doesn't exist in PZP.

Why not to add it in PZP but my to-do list is still big so this won't be for today ;)

LEt's see what the others think about this option ..?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mvsmith07:
Recurring appt testing

Hi

Got an update after a little more testing.

If I create a recurring appointment on my XDA II the profile switching works great and continues to work for each appointment in the series. I can also sync the appointments, created on my XDA II, to Outlook, change the time in Outlook, resync back to the XDA II and the profiles continue to switch OK. :D

If I create a recurring appointment in Outlook and sync it to my XDA II the switching of the Outlook appt does not work after the start time of the first appointment in the series. :( The start time of the first appointment executes the outlook switch, but nothing after that. When the first appointment end time comes around PZP remains in the "Outlook Switch Running" mode. I need to manually take it out of this mode to commence any further switching, whether they are time or outlook based switching. When the start time of the second (and any further) appointment in the recurring series comes around PZP does not do the outlook switch.

I hope this helps a little further. :?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] mtbsoft:
Might this be better implemented as a switch to mode x on power supply with mode x turning on BT? Just an idea.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] edsub:
I agree.

It then is more general.

We just need the possibility to trigger a profile by putting the device in the carkit.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Re: Recurring appt testing

Yes it helps thank you. I never tried that. I will.

Yes I aggree too.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] izeman:
not 100% ack. that would mean the same profile would be activated when on "car power" and when on "cradle power".

but my car profile is 100% volume and headset on, while my office/cradle profile is 50% volume with headset of and vibrate on.

but having a profile selected depending on power status is better than nothing i guess. :)

any ideas?

regards ize|man
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
Is it even possible for the OS to distinguish what type of power supply you are using? Is it not simply on or off? and if so not possible to program seperate power connections under different modes.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] izeman:
how do you think this should work?

external psu = external psu. same connector, same surge. it's exactly the same. there is no difference if your device is in a desk cradle or a car cradle.

what IS different though is that there is NO activesync connection while in the car bay. maybe that is what you meant, isn't it? or did i get you wrong?

regards ize|man
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] iggy:
quote]how do you think this should work?

external psu = external psu. same connector, same surge. it's exactly the same. there is no difference if your device is in a desk cradle or a car cradle.

what IS different though is that there is NO activesync connection while in the car bay. maybe that is what you meant, isn't it? or did i get you wrong?

regards ize|man[/quote]

My idea is that it could not and if it did then those who use just the power connector and are not syncing would then set thier device to full volume and BT on.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Leon_Citron:
One point, I never saw if someone talk about this before :

During a phonecall and if PZP is programmed to stop the phone, the current phonecall is stopped...

I don't know if I'm clear...

Exemple, I'm online on the night at 22h50 and PZP is programmed to stop the phone at 23h00, the phonecall is stopped at 23h00 even if i'm still online...

Is there a solution to detect if the phone is online and then stop it after the call (into GPRS or voice mode).

Here's my little contribution :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
I agree... it happened to me also, it is not a big problem but it would be nice to have this feature...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
New feature request

Hi Zen,

right because now it is all perfect, I can think about new features...

It would be nice to have a program execution when a switch occours.

For example, when I switch to my car profile (automatically or manually, no matter), it would be nice that WMP starts, so I can listen to my music.

Maybe somebody already suggested this option, but honestly I do not remember...

What do you think ? :roll:

Thanks again for your job.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] k_kirk:
I had this affect me one time during a long teleconference when I went over the time triggered bluetooth switch off and lost my headset... Ended up not realizing what happened and assumed call dropped so had to hang up and call back again. Not a major issue I agree but something to think about for the future.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Codeus:
Time Switch problem

Hi there,

I have a small problem and I am not sure what I am doing wrong. I have two simple time switches (no Outlook switching or Tap and Holds at all): -

8:30 am - Switch to Mode 2 (Radio ON / BT Off / Headset off)

10:00 pm - Switch to Mode 1 (Radio OFF / BT Off / Headset off)

I do not use a SIM PIN but I DO use a phone lock after 5 minutes of inactivity.

The 10PM Switch works fine and the phone turns off - never had a problem with this at all.

The 8:30AM Switch does NOT turn the Radio back on. HOWEVER, when I turn my XDA itself back on (after 8:30am). The radio immediately switches back on (before I have even typed the device unlock code).

I have tried changing the switch times to a few minutes apart and the problem still occurs. I am also running Check Notifications and BlueTooth Tools (in case they are relevant).

Am I doing something wrong? My version is 5.1 Beta 1 (Time Limited)

Any help would be much appreciated.

Codeus
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] dave:
Re: Time Switch problem

Mmmmmhhh ...What is phone lock...? Never found in my qtek...

I have them both, but no trouble at all...

Look for my posts few pages back... I had the same trouble. I fixed it uninstalling PZP, manually cleaning the registry and re-installing... it works now.For me it was probably a mix of old&new settings.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Codeus:
Sorry, when I say phone lock I mean the basic 'Password' option under Start > Settings > Password in WM2003.

I use it to stop my kids fiddling with it!

I *think* I did a deep clean of the reg settings before my last install. But just in case I will re-do it now and see how I go tomorrow morning.

Thanks for your feedback.

Codeus
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hello,

sorry if I don't reply during the week end but I don't have internet connection at home for the moment :evil:

And as I have a lot of work I didn't look on PZP. But this should be more quiet after this week and so I will be able to think of new features ;)

Well I never thought of that :? I aggree this is not a good thing ... but I have two questions.

Not sure if PZP can detect if a phone call is running and not sure how yo wait that the call phone ends to switch to the mode and turn the radio off ...

I will note that to look if it is possible.

Never try that ... I will too

For the power supply and the switch when the PPC is on craddle I don't know how it works. Detect the power supply should be possible but I don't think it is possible to distinguish what kind of power ...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] zendrui:
Hip Hip Hourra

Ok now the good good news,

I have my new spvm1000 :)

I was waiting to see if the XDA3 will be very better as the xda2. But the xda3 won't be out until end of october at least, and the price will be ~800€. So for just a keyboard and the wifi more, and due to the fact that I had to get my new phone contract, I decided that the XDA2 will be perfect for me.

So I'd like to thank all the PZP registered users, thank to you I can play with my new XDA2 :)