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[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Thanks for your support and for promoting the app.

Yes, when the phone lying face up the screen is locked unfortunately. It is because the alternative method works only if the proximity sensor is covered which is not the case in this situation. One solution would be that to lay the phone face down onto the table, but it has disadvantages as well I know.
[Android Apps and Games] THE RED BLUR:
Lol. Xda are making things boring here :cool:

Im here because you mentioned this great app in kroz thread weeks ago. Not the first and hopefully not the last time you have brought an app to my attention my friend. :);)
[Android Apps and Games] rgs2:
Works great on the HTC One, especially with Better Wifi on/off.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Maybe not bad idea these threats. If it can help to solve this "lying face up" issue :)
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
Can you do anything with this development to achieve screen off without lock?
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
This is one of the best screen apps ever created, hands down.

Bought the pro version, working perfect on my Nexus 4.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
This can be a good starting point to find out how to solve this issue. Thanks!
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Only bummer is today was my first full day using Gravity and the battery drain was too extreme. Of course I can choose to use only the proximity sensor but I already have a much older app that does that.. I really want to be able to use the motion to wake but it's just too draining. I'll give it a go one more full day after tweaking the settings a little and see what can be done.
[Android Apps and Games] remidesroques:
Are you certain that it is caused by gravity? Have look at the battery section in the settings to make sure. I honestly have little battery drainage from this app and I have all the functions on all day every day and the time out set to 10 hours. I have a Samsung galaxy s3. You can also investigate deeper with the app called battery saver.

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[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
If you have to save some energy the best way to do that is to place your phone face down when you know you do not need your phone for a while. By this you put the phone into deep sleep without loosing the automatic turn on feature.
[Android Apps and Games] SteveMurphy:
Great point, and I believe you mention that in your OP, so perhaps people should read that before posting about possible battery drain. I use your method and have very little drainage.

Sent from the i777
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
I noticed that with the last version even with the "Turn Screen ON by Proximity" deselected the screen is switched on when hovering over the proximity sensor.

Anybody else seeing this same behavior?
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Thanks for conforming. Yes, I'm trying to tell this in the app itself too but of course not everyone read these things :)
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I guess you are experiencing this when "lying face up". I intentionally keep the turn on feature for that case. After thinking for a while I concluded that who wants to turn off "proximity screen on" because the app turns occasionally on in the pocket probably do not want it to be turned off when the phone lying face up.
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
No unfortunately I'm having this in every situation/angle.

Edit: you gave me an idea, when I disable "Any Direction" in "Pocket Sensor" it works as you described.

I had that enabled because I carry my phone face up my pocket. So now I have to make a choice, live with it or learn myself to put the phone up-side-down in my pocket.

On my previous phone, the one I retired about a week ago I used a pouch that was open on the top. So when was putting that phone up-side-down in my pocket I ran the risk off it falling out when getting the phone from my pocket.

Old habits die hard.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
After updates, sometimes weird proximity sensor behavior is reported like this. I could not repeat it. Thus I do not know what causes it.

So far the known solution is a re-installation of the app.

Which version did you upgrade from?
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
It was a fresh install a few days ago (new phone), so this time it wasn't an upgrade.

Did you see the edit on my previous post?
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I just saw now the edit. I did not know you are using Any Direction Feature. If the Alternative proximity method is checked the behavior is normal. Is it checked?
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
I now have "Any Direction" disabled and "Alternative proximity" enabled, and its working as you described ("Turn on by proximity" only works when the phone is lying face up)

When I enable "Any Direction" in combination with "Alternative proximity" the "Turn on by proximity" works under every angle.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
So, looks like everything is fine, just a hard habit changing is necessary :)
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Of course I'm sure. When 35% of my battery (exceeded only by screen) is due to Gravity there's no misinterpretation of the drain.

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Why is it when there's an issue everyone thinks the user doesn't read or doesn't know what was stated on the OP? It's really insulting to insinuate that. I don't set my phone face down because I don't use screen protectors.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
The 35% is a relative value and it does not tell too much about actually how much energy is used by the app. To know if there is a real battery drain we should know how much energy was used all together, I mean how many percentage dropped your battery level during the sampling period. But if you are using the Turn Screen On by Motion feature too often the battery consumption is increased. If you read FAQ or OP it's stated there.

The extra buttery consumption is because the app have to keep your phone awake to monitor motions when it's lying face up and actually the energy is used by this fact not by the app itself. We can tell this feature cost a lot of energy and everyone has to decide is it worth for him/her.
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Ha made my day

Yes I understand everything you said, and while I do not completely agree with everything you stated I know the point you are trying to make. I was just hoping that the Gravity feature would not drain as much battery as it does. I guess that is the nature of constantly using that sensor. Like I said I will try it again all day today, I made some tweaks to the settings and hopefully I will see enough improvement to justify using it. I love the app, don't get me wrong. It's my new favorite right now.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
This "buttery consumption" is not bad it's true :)

The most energy used not by the sensor, it used by that fact the phone cannot be in deep sleep. Basically you have to find out how much energy you can spend on the Turn Screen On by Motion feature which keeps the phone awake when it's facing up. For example if I see the battery level is quite low and no charger available I'm trying to place the phone face down if there is a soft surface around which not scratching the screen too much. So far, I found this way the best to keep all functions and still save energy. Other way to reduce the battery usage is to reduce the timeout of the feature or turn the feature off. Hopefully you will find your way to use this app soon.
[Android Apps and Games] CoolApps:
Looking awesome, I will try it tomorrow with the "real life" test and see how the battery is effected and if this application can stay off in my pocket.

Of course the phone has to be upside down in my pocket or if I go too close to it the screen will come off.
[Android Apps and Games] lovewisher:
so should be enable lock screen or not and my phone is on table now but light still open can any body tell me setting to work perfect
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I think screen lock is not necessarily too much anymore. At least I'm not using it.

To get the perfect settings you have to discover the options and find the best for your need.
[Android Apps and Games] lovewisher:
it not locking screen if i disable sceen lock and if screen lock enable always locke screen after few sec i have to disable this app untill i know how to use it
[Android Apps and Games] CoolApps:
Unfortunately it started draining the battery changing to 8% tooken when screen is on.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Better to uninstall now :)
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
For me it doesn't even show as a battery user at all.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
The best approach is to use the app for some days following the hints to reduce the battery usage. By time the daily average will drop to around 6 % . At that point it will be quite easy for you to decide is it wort for you or not .
[Android Apps and Games] CoolApps:
Exactly what I did before posting. ;)

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Forgot to mention that the sensor service was showing up as well.

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It started with 2% and then while the screen is on it increases to 8%.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Not easy this support, people think apps charging the battery or something ... :)
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
You could make a lot of money if you manged to do that :laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] zerosys:
Maybe it is possible to add a feature that deactivates the sensor while camera is running. I always shut off the screen when using camera sideways :P
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
He-he :) not bad idea. That will be the next project for sure :)
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
I will be your fist customer then :highfive:
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
If you set the angle in the Pocket sensor around 60 degree it should not happen too often. To add an exclusion list would have some drawbacks, for example you could not put your phone into pocket with camera app running. I think it's quite convenient if whatever app is running, you can put the phone into pocket and no need to think whether any of the running apps are on an exclusion list or not.
[Android Apps and Games] CoolApps:
People think that apps can charge the battery? O.o
[Android Apps and Games] zerosys:
It is set to 60 degree, but as soon as i slide "accidently" over the sensor the screen shuts off. And holding the device sideways to take a picture causes this accident shut off everytime.
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Not easy this developer, seems to think his extremely battery draining app doesn't drain the battery

Dude I don't know what you're issue is with REALITY, but your app drains more battery than ANY other app on my phone. Quit acting like it's some user error or like we don't know how to tell when something is draining our battery.

Yes if you use proximity sensor only it won't drain the battery as much, but there's at least 4-5 existing apps that do that already and have been for at least a year or more.. and they drain less battery than your app. So think what you want, act all high and mighty like we users don't know what we're talking about. Fact remains it's a battery hog if you want to use the MAIN feature of your app, the GRAVITY part of it. Otherwise your app is no different than Smart Screen Off or other apps out there that have been around longer and work just as good or better.

Instead of pointing fingers at the users why don't you just admit there's nothing you can do about it, the lack of deep sleep due to keeping the motion sensor awake will always drain the battery at a high rate, period. And you need that sensor working to use the "Gravity" part of your app which is the only thing that makes it different.
[Android Apps and Games] SteveMurphy:
This isn't the case with everyone; I've not had any excessive drain with this app at all. Perhaps your phone doesn't like it? In either case, attacking the Dev of an app you choose to use isn't productive or smart. If you don't like it, don't use it, but please stop littering this thread.

Sent from the i777
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
then you're not using the motion features.

And I didn't "attack" the dev, I responded to his snarky immature little comment that he directed toward users inferring we are stupid and think it's supposed to "charge" our battery. I've seen countless developers do crap like that when they get mad because someone points out a real issue that they cannot solve.

I never said it's his fault the app drains the battery (I understand it's because it prevents the deep sleep due to the nature of using the motion sensor), but the little comments he posts that are degrading/insulting to his PAID user base are uncalled for and represent his own ego issues.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Let's say the app is bad, support is bad but at least this thread is not boring :)

Sorry for these jokes but I had to compensate the crying about the battery drain issue, it is my weak point (and probably it really exists) ;)

Please, do not expect here professional support. I'm doing this app mainly for fun.
[Android Apps and Games] d0nald01:
need a threshold on the proximity sensor, i like to keep my phone face up on my desk when i work, it keeps turning on and off
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I forgot to ask before, are you using the Any Direction feature?
[Android Apps and Games] zerosys:
Yes!

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[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
In that case, it would be useful it's true. Unfortunately I'm not planning to add these feature in the near future. If you can try to use the app without this feature or at least do not tick the Alternative Proximity Method and you will get 1.5s delay for the screen off.
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Nobody was crying about anything. I simply pointed out the battery drain and you went from insinuating I didn't know how to read battery stats, to saying it was probably something else besides your app, to insinuating I expect it to charge my battery, to calling it "crying". Real class act.

Oh and if you're not going to provide real support, maybe you shouldn't be selling apps.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I think I tried to help you, explained you everything I cannot help more.
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Yes, you did try to help. Then you proceeded to throw insults for no apparent reason. Not really sure why you felt the need to do that.

You have some real potential as a developer it's your people skills that suck.
[Android Apps and Games] domi.nos:
Hello.

This app is incredible, only could you please add Tasker integration? I wish to use it in different modes depending on same states like location and charging.
[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
I'm planning to add the integration. Just I do not know how to do that at the moment :) But you can alrady stop the service by this:https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.laptopfreek0.taskkill. Thanks to [MENTION=4885676]remidesroques[/MENTION] for the method.
[Android Apps and Games] ingenious247:
Can you post another screen shot after using it all day?

At 94% battery, nothing has used your battery at all - it just came off the charger

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plexnor - I have an idea that would make this app work perfectly for me and possibly many others.

Would you consider a toggle for a setting that would turn off the "wake by motion" feature if the phone is placed in pocket within the angle parameters?

For example -

I want to have only the following settings active:

- Table Sensor, lying face up ON

- wake phone by motion ON

Then, can add another setting to disable the "wake phone by motion" when the phone is placed into pocket activating the pocket sensor, but re-enabled if the phone is placed on it's back (lying face up)?

This way, when I have my phone next to me (say, on my desk or the arm of my couch) when I place it on it's back the screen goes dark. Then if I move it or pick it up, the screen comes on (this is just normal for how the app is now).

BUT

If I place my phone in my pocket within the 60 deg. parameter (or whatever angle I set) it temporarily "deactivates" the wake by motion feature, thus allowing deep sleep.

When I press the power button on later to wake my phone, and then place it on it's back facing up, it reactivates the wake by motion.

This would solve the battery drain for me and allow me to use the app as I wish.

Can this be done?

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Basically this should be fairly easy to implement. Just when the phone goes off due to angle, de-activates wake by motion. Then when phone is awake and placed lying face up, reactivates wake by motion.

I would be eternally grateful.
[Android Apps and Games] zerosys:
Ah I found the "problem" for me. The Any Direction feature works, but the 1,5s delay doesn't work very fine for me. I have to stop and start the application a couple of times for the 1,5s delay to work. But as soon as the 1,5s delay works, the camera problem is solved.

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[Android Apps and Games] plexnor:
Yes, the 1.5s delay not always available and after certain change in settings you need a screen off or an app restart to get it back. In the next version I will fix these.

I have not tested this feature too long. But I guess if you have one time the delay it will stay persistent if you are not switching the Alternative prox method on and off. Let me know if you find out something more. Moreover, only use this feature if it's very necessary for you. It's not a recommended one.
[Android Apps and Games] airjyp:
I've the pro version of this app. But when I used this I turn my phone off but in a second the screen is turn on again? Why?
[Android Apps and Games] zerosys:
Which settings do you use for your device?

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[Android Apps and Games] antdizzo:
Been using it all day, and I must say I love it. Good job!

I do notice a bit more battery drain, but not sure if it's from this app, and I don't really care, my all time favorite app!

Sent from my HTC One
[Android Apps and Games] nmsv:
Using this program has an impact on the lifetime of the proximity sensor? What I mean is using this app can the hardware get damaged or something else?
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
I can't imagine it will.

Those sensors are also used by the stock ROM all the time, and there is noting mechanical in them that can ware out.
[Android Apps and Games] remidesroques:
Yes, you can use the task kill Tasker plugin to turn on and off the app through Tasker based on location, time and whatnot.

I'm using all functions, motion sensor and proximity sensor all day, everyday. I put phone face down on my bed when I go to sleep. My battery last the day and it was about the same performance before using Gravity.

The support is plenty for the ridiculously small amount of money this app cost.

Addicted to it! Thank you so much Plexnor!

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Did you turn off your phone using the power button? This app works with motion so if you turn off the screen while you are still holding it, it will turn back on. To keep the screen off, it needs to be face down on a flat surface, in your pocket /bag or face up on table (then it will turn off after 1.5 second)

If you are in a car for example, you might want to pause the app if the phone is not in the positions I mentioned above. If your phone is flat on your car seat but the screen is facing up then it will never turn off due to the motion of your car. I hope I'm clear enough...
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
That's a nice example, I have seen my screen turning on in the car while driving. I will set up a Tasker task to disable the app when connected to the car's BT.

Thanks for the tip :good:
[Android Apps and Games] remidesroques:
Try lowering the turn screen on by motion slider. Maybe your table moves a little and it turn the screen on. I have mine set at 10 and it still works fine and turns on when I pick up the phone.
[Android Apps and Games] mahyars:
Great app, works good for me
[Android Apps and Games] Gunde:
May I ask why?
[Android Apps and Games] kevinbear:
Loving this app! Simplifies and improves upon a "pocket detect" profile I had created in Tasker.

I would, however, like to see an option to add a custom delay for the proximity detect. I often turn off the screen accidentally by putting a finger to close to the sensor momentarily.

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to clarify, I know it says there should be a 1.5 second delay when "any direction" is selected, but I don't experience this delay
[Android Apps and Games] itsamti:
Truly love it, who needs SGS3 smart stay feature :D. I really miss 2 things though.... 1. Disable proximity detect if phone is in hand ( somehow detect based on angle) 2. Power button pause/start. It would be great to see these.
[Android Apps and Games] luisjorge54:
Overheating Nexus 4

Hi,

I explain one issue in my nexus 4. When i put in pocket my stock Nexus 4 is overheating in the back, camera zone. This only happens in my pocket not when is on the table or other situations.

Any idea about this?.
[Android Apps and Games] remidesroques:
Not sure what you mean. Using the power button to pause/start the app?

You can always pause it in the notification...
[Android Apps and Games] itsamti:
I know but using power button to pause/start the app will be more convenient. I can do that without looking into screen.
[Android Apps and Games] Jolest:
I'm with you on this. If I tap the power button, I want the screen OFF. I don't want it switching back on automatically.
[Android Apps and Games] SteveMurphy:
I don't know; the whole point of this app is to SAVE the power button. Maybe plexnor can add this feature just to please people, but I truly don't think it's necessary.

Sent from the i777
[Android Apps and Games] Brennusbr:
Strange Permission

Your app is amazing! Congratulations!

But why do you need this permission? "READ PHONE STATUS AND IDENTITY"
[Android Apps and Games] diggmc:
Feature request :)

Gravity screen pro has replaced touch control and smart screen for me and that's great, but i miss smart screens option of vibrate the phone when turning off the screen.

I used this feature to ensure smart screen had done its job and not crashed.

I'm not saying gravity is crashing (!) but would be nice to have a little feed back without having to keep checking.

Thanks for the consideration.
[Android Apps and Games] Gunde:
+1.

If this is implemented and the proximity sensor delay is fixed, I think I can call this the perfect app. :)
[Android Apps and Games] ageusz:
Cannot disable Turn Screen ON by Proximity

First of all thanks for seriously great app!

Still, I have a little problem :]

I use non-pro version for now and Turn Screen ON by Proximity option cannot be disabled. I put my phone screen top position on table. It turns off after few seconds. Unfortunately whenever I hold my hand above the proximity sensor - phone is turning on. Doesn't matter if the Turn On by Proxim option is enabled or disabled. I don't want this behavior as I guess it consumes some battery to constantly check the proximity.

Is it some bug or maybe it works good only in pro version? ;)

I use it on HTC One.
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
It's not a bug it's a feature ;)

See here

But I agree with you, If I had the opportunity I would switch it off.

Pro version won't change this ATM.
[Android Apps and Games] ageusz:
Have you measured maybe how much it increases battery consumption against situation when disabling it acutally disables it?
[Android Apps and Games] kantjer:
No and my battery life is great, I just don't like my phone switching on every time I come near it or pick it up.

If [MENTION=4914137]plexnor[/MENTION] ever manages to implement the alternative proxy method to it that would be useful (switching screen off without locking) :fingers-crossed: