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[Xperia Z General] XperiaZ77:
Love my xperia z but i do hate that it's a fingerprint magnet, i've got like 30,000 prints on it right now :( And the speaker is not great, it's cracking all the time at high volumes and it's in the wrong place, too high. But every phone has its issues, pro's and cons. But compared to the HTC One, Xperia Z is definitely the winner. HTC One's design is awful and the European version of the One doesnt have 4G. I just don't get HTC. They should have released Droid DNA aka Butterfly in Europe instead of the One. WIth the Xperia Z you have something special. I mean everyone i know has got a Samsung S3 or will get the S4 when it hits the market. That's also why i picked the Xperia Z, like half the world got a Samsung S3 or HTC One X.
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
I agree with the last part. Most of my friends got the Galaxy S3 or iPhone 5 (non HTC One X). I'm not going to bash S3, it's specs and features are amazing still now one year later! The only reason I never bought it is because I don't like it's build material and it's shape. iPhone's UI is the reason I never bought it, design is great though but IOS has become boring, no changes and limited customization options.

I got my Xperia Z two days ago and I'm in love with it. It has its pros and cons both have been pointed out already so telling them would just been repeating what others said already. I haven't experienced any major issues until now, the issues having, I was aware off like wrong placing and rather bad quality of the speaker. It doesn't bother me at all, many other things make up for it.

I've read comments about disappointing camera... I disagree it's great. (full stop) I use my camera a lot and shoot great pics with it, obviously not as in their videos and adds but anyone thinking it'd be like that has to get a mental checkup.

It isn't a flawless phone, not at all! Let that be said but well, what can I say? I adore it and it's premium build quality is towering above all other phones available right now in my opinion (HTC One not included).

HTC One I can only give praise to it, yet all that isn't enough to have me change from Sony to HTC. Perhaps I'm a fanboy now and don't mind what others say about the Z, I love it and won't change it until Sony launches its next flagship. Just wished others could respect other people's choices and not bash other phones because they love theirs.
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
You really think that he HTC one design is awful?
[Xperia Z General] randomuseresato:
^

A design copied from BB Z10/Iphone 5/Xperia P/Ion. Even if the design is decent, HTC deserves no appreciation for "copy pasting".
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Well said. You can't praise htc for shamelessly imitating other manufacturers.

Also the display is no where near what it's hyped up to be. I totally agree with phones4u that it's the worst of the 2013 flagships. If you're the type of nerd that judges display on viewing angles and deep blacks alone, you'll surely think it's the best thing since sliced bread.

The video quality is the worst of the bunch and it's gaming graphics are just a mess despite the high res screen. The damn thing places a bluish tint on the entire image. Everything is bluish.

No thanks, you can keep that crap.

If anyone doubts me, just head on down to YouTube and search for lionking853. He's done loads of gaming reviews. If you've got two phones, you can load up the same game review for both devices on the different phones and see for yourself. Asphalt 7, alien vs Predator, nova 3 etc. There's just no comparison, the ones display just looks a mess.

Strange is it not, that that sort of display can be hailed as the best on the market. Something definitely corrupt about the way the tech sites go about their business indeed.
[Xperia Z General] bucho2004:


I might come of sounding like a troll, but having a look at the HTC one forum, the phone is plagued with issues! From dented chassis to uneven uniformity on screens, raised edges on chassis, dead pixels, white dots on screen that are different to dead pixels, etc, etc. And the worst thing us, from what I read this isn't a rare or one off problem, this is on almost all or most of the HTC handsets, and it literally takes 3-4 exchanges before you get a faultless handset, or a handset that you're willing to live with. The sony xperia z is nowhere near as bad with faulty phone units, it's more rare or occasional to get a faulty phone.

However HTC one owners are still loving the one, it is an amazing phone regardless, just really, really bad quality control put me off wanting the HTC one, I if a product is plagued with so many issues, it should be made public. And no one should accept or live with a less than perfectly constructed phone.

Ps iam very happy and glad I chose the xperia z
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
Can't disagree more here. I have had the One and the Z side by side for comparisons and the One screen rubs the Z into the dirt. If it was a fight, the Z would be 6 feet under.

I love the Z but the screen is shoddy, and the One screen is absolutely stunning. Add that to the fact the One is faster and smoother than the Z and they are on to a winner. Z is a shabby second best i'm afraid. (except in water proof ability and ruggedness)

P.s. I have a dead pixel on my Z which is not worthy of a repair on warranty, and a squeeky power button which is the same. Hardly amazing build quality.
[Xperia Z General] bucho2004:
Ok
[Xperia Z General] barondebxl:
Yes it does look similar to some of the phone you mentioned especially the Ion but they made it much better. I think the One is the best looking phone ever.

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I totally agree. In fact since the HTC One and S4 announcements the Z became an after thought. It's a decent phone but it cannot compete with the other two. The screen, while being very sharp, is not that great, the stock UI lags, the speaker sound is terrible and the placement is awkward.

The HTC One performs flawlessly, the screen ( from what I hear) is insanely good, battery life is very decent. I honestly don't see how the Z can best it but I understand ppl preferring it for waterproof, slick and unique design, nice looking UI, nice gallery, great support from Sony.
[Xperia Z General] eletricx:
I've heard that the national version's screen of Z is not as good as Japan's. The ONE published the source code for developer. what about Z :confused:
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
What did you compare in the displays. Viewing angles and colours I'm sure. I was taking about video playback and gaming graphics and there the Z beats it up badly. Maybe you're the type of person who only sees colour in am image but I'll tell you now, the video playback might be acceptable but the one's gaming graphics are just a mess. And that's being kind. If you've got both phones, just load up the same game on both and you'll see the difference in the depth of clarity. Everything looks blue on the ones display. If you don't have both, just check out lionking853 reviews and you'll see. There's more to a display than viewing angles and deep blacks. The idea that Zs display is rubbed into the dirt by the one's is just laughable. Even in performance terms, you brain is noticing things that aren't there. The difference is miniscule. You're telling yourself lies I'm afraid. You've been watching to many benchmarking reviews I think.
[Xperia Z General] Option58:
Okay, so I've been a local store and saw an Xperia Z, here are my thoughts.

First I found on-screen buttons pretty good and simple...

Then I found a screen really, really awful. Sooo washed out I could not believe. Tell me guys is this way to save battery or....

Then I found It too big, I am beginning to understand why is the One smaller. (btw never seen htc one in real life).

Then I found Xperia Interface sooo better than Sony 2012. It was beautiful. I had my toggles. I think I would never install Cyanogenmod xD =) And I find interface on my Xperia Miro 2012 crappy, installed Nova rightaway.

And lastly it was so smooth, so great. Before I saw it I had been thinking Snapdragon 600 made S4 Pro really bad. Now I see it is beast of an CPU.

In conclusion I would maybe buy it as a phablet and I see its purpose there. But I clearly see it is not a phone and never intended to be that.

Don't get me wrong I am actually a Sony fanboy, but this really dissapointed me (in terms of screen) :\

Washed out colors stops me from buying it and maybe 4.7 would be great for me.

So with that said I think I am going for HTC One :)
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Good comparison. My own reasons:

1. I use many Sony devices so having stuff like Throw or Bravia Mirroring to my Bravia TV or PS3 out of box was a major deal for me.

2. Smaller device, bigger screen.

3. Sony has superior design for me.

4. I don't like HTC Sense, never have, never will.

5. Had bad experiences with HTC batteries. Sony could have done better, but I can't really complain.

6. Waterproof - I really like this feature.

7. No MicroSD slot on HTC ? Are you f.... kidding me HTC ? What are you, Apple ?

8. Full aluminium body is a bad idea, apparently much worse than glass... Apple learned from their original iPhone.

9. In my opinion XZ has much better camera

There you have it. Don't get me wrong, HTC One is a great device - but it's just not for me.

HTC One is basically the same size as XZ, but has smaller display and much bigger bezels.

About the screen I'd say it's the software... set the brightness to 100% and view the stock photos in BE2 mode. They're amazingly crisp and vivid - so the screen can produce such colours, the problem is in most cases it doesn't. When you go back to the interfece, it loses the "wow" effect and becomes "just fine". A way to make Bravia Engine very visible ? Maybe, but if so - it's a bad idea. I wonder if CM team can cook something up in their software, just like they did on Samsung Galaxy phones ( dynamic screen setting )
[Xperia Z General] wawyed:
Yesterday I ordered the xz but not before checking the device in a store and the one too.

Checking both screen and after trying to look at the z from different angles I really couldn't understand what people were talking about the angles, the screen looked awesome from all angles. The body was beautiful and the camera did nice pics.

Then I checked the HTC one, also awesome device the ui is quite different, I think I like it more stock. The phone is also beautiful in aluminium body but I don't think it can win the xz style. Camera takes good pics but you can see the difference when you zoom in. The thing that pulled me back was the heat, after 10 minutes testing both, the one was getting hot and I didn't even try a game.

So I left the shop confident about my decision to get the z and that I didn't have to worry about the screen quality.

When I got home I ordered on amazon.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Viewing angles could have been better, but I won't complain because if you look at your device from an angle all the time, you don't need a better screen, you need to see a doctor ;)

About the colours though, I think people are used to much more saturated colours right now. For years manufacturers used saturation as a marketing point, raising it up and up all the time. XZ display has normal colours, and it suddenly looks washed out in comparison with AMOLED or other much more saturated displays. For me it's not a problem though.
[Xperia Z General] wawyed:
But for me and my partner, we were looking at it. And I was asking him do you see any difference on the screen when you looked but the side and he agreed with me. Maybe you have to see it in the dark to feel the difference but in the shop I couldn't understand the problem.

And about the colours, I compared with the htc one and It looked pretty much the same I tried to find similar pictures on both devices, and both looked awesome. I compared it to my o2x and it looked the same or better cause of the resolution.
[Xperia Z General] kentleejoon:
Great

Great review, very detailed and extremely true.

Clear audio + sony earpiece + max volume is just heaven.

The only flaw is back gets warm pretty fast and accessories are not easy to find, and their pretty expensive too.

Can't wait to get a charging dock though..
[Xperia Z General] daniel.nguyen:
I love HTC one design, but battery life is awful !!!! HTC must have some way to improve battery life, other than that, they will become looser
[Xperia Z General] Option58:
I agree. Screen seemed really washed out :\. But viewing angles not, they are just fine.

No AMOLED does not make it look washed out. I hate AMOLED.

I own an Xperia Miro. That made it look washed out... But seems like my phone is TFT also :\

I will check the store again and this time settings and not xperia UI, I will check pictures...
[Xperia Z General] PokerFaze:
Yeah. It gets warm when even browsing the web. I've not gotten the dock yet... Its kinda expensive for a dock :/

I find the design to be a copycat. BBZ10 front, Xperia P/Ion back. Dunno bout battery life though.

AMOLED is waaaay oversaturated IMO.
[Xperia Z General] KP_:
I agree with the dock being expensive for a dock, but check out this thread. Just made one for myself in a couple of hours and it works like a charm
[Xperia Z General] PokerFaze:
Woahh! Awesome! Talk about DIY! Will try to build one. Thanks! :D

Sent from my Sexy White Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] doministry:
Yeah HTC One actually looks like BB10 with Xperia P back :)

And Sony has amazing camera. And the whole feel...

As for the screen, it may look washed in the UI but the real performance is fabulous.
[Xperia Z General] BloodOmen777:
The Z design is the best!
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I thought the same thing about the Zs display at first sight. Coming from the Xperia S which has a more saturated display, the Zs ui looked washed out. But after using the phone for a while now, I'm actually very pleased with the fact that the saturation was toned down. Believe me, all you gain from that is a colorful ui but at the expense of video quality and gaming graphics. Over saturation does some very strange things to videos but the damage is worse in games.

I've compared it to the S, iPhone 4s and five extensively and from the tests I've done, the Zs display performed best comfortably. Followed by the iPhone 4S.

If we take gaming for example, the iPhone 5 struggles the most with textures and games have this bluish tint, it's the same problem with the HTC One. Take asphalt 7, on the iPhone 5 and the One, everything looks bluish, the buildings, the roads, the people, everything has a blue tint whereas on the Z and the iPhone 4S, I could easily make out the different textures, the buildings looked white, the roads grey, the trees green and the people whatever colour they were meant to be. Also because of the heavy colour saturation, background images are blurred out and even completely lost in some cases. On asphalt 7, there were certain scenes where when I paused the game on the iPhone 5, I couldn't make out the sky in the background. It was clearly visible on the Z and 4S. You could see the blue sky and the white clouds.

That's just one game, the story is repeated, game after game after game.

The S isn't as troublesome as the iPhone 5, but it has that yellowy tint which is much better than the bluish crap of the iPhone 5, note 2, galaxy s3 and htc One. The galaxy s4 is looking better. Why? Because Samsung toned down the saturation levels as they have been doing year on year since the insane heights of the S2.

From what I've seen, the colorful ui isn't worth the damage done in turn to video playback but most especially games. It renders them, a mess. Truly it does.
[Xperia Z General] BloodOmen777:
And camera is better on Z
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
Sorry once again I have to disagree. Games look great on the One, although I have to say I am not a big smartphone gamer, can't see the point in them, so wouldn't really care either way.

All I can comment on are simple truths.

1. Load up a HD video on youtube, or indeed any HD video, and watch it on both phones. The Z is washed out, there is not as much detail or sharpness to the picture. Video's literally look lifelike on the One.

2. Show someone pictures or video's you've taken, or look a website with someone you know on both screens and the Z washes out to both parties when you are both trying to look at the same time, even at very shallow angles.

3. Just get them side by side and swype through menus, across the homescreen, take pictures, do whatever you like, the Z skips and lags here and there and the One does not.

The One is hardly the only phone that will trounce the Z this year. The GS4 will do everything the Z and the one can, barring being waterproof or having an LCD screen, and it'll be a lot more popular.

I think Sony missed out big time on the Z. I have had to root and install mods to bring the sound and music volume up to acceptable levels, and by acceptable I mean barely acceptable, again the HTC One trounces the Z with 30% more volume and better quality, the performance falls short of the Nexus 4 which uses the same chipset, and the Z camera is excellent but is wrapped up in an under performing phone.

Hate to say it but the Z is just another phone in a long list that falls short for me personally.
[Xperia Z General] Lord Farkward:
What I don't get is, if under the 'connectivity' LTE was an important part to you, then why would you disable LTE? I guess that's how you get 80% battery left after a majority of the day, yes, but it also seems like you do rarely use the phone at all during those hours. I've tried it with mine (disabling LTE and just using HSDPA+) with regular use (msgs/e-mails every 10-15 mins and rest for 10-15 mins in between) and it gets down to 30% after 10 hours.
[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
Nonsense from start to finish. I've done exactly what you suggested and the Z beats the htc in video playback and gaming graphics. Phones4u, dialaphone and even techradar who've been one of the biggest cheerleaders for the One also said there weren't impressed with the video playback. Have no clue where you got you facts from.

Here's one comparison

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDi95S-PJ8

If you want to see gaming graphics comparison, check lionking853 on you tube.

Just load up say asphalt 7, alien vs Predator, or nova 3 gaming reviews on both phones. Load both on at the same time on different phones if you've got them and see the clear clear difference in quality. It's like the HTC display goes nuts. Totally!

You are a victim of the hype I'm afraid. The evidence is clear and undeniable.

I think you've been watching too many of those video review shot at an off angle. All those reviews do is show the poor viewing angles of the Z, they don't actually show the display quality. I think you've watched too many of those done by reviewers who have their own motives.

By all means, if your primary concern is having a very colourful ui and great viewing angles then the one's for you but don't talk about video playback or gaming graphics. Of all the flagships released this year, the one's the worst of the bunch in that regard.

By the way, nobody's asking you to buy the Z, I'm just stating the facts. You're head is full of tech site nonsense.
[Xperia Z General] wawyed:
All I see in the video is that both phones have great display quality ^^.
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
How on earth is the Z too quiet when listening to music?

Are you using the stock headphones and if so have you removed the white cotton filters? If no I recommend you do and hear the difference. Any louder and you are doing serious damage to your ears long term. At full volume I wouldn't want it any louder.... Why would anybody want it louder unless they have serious hearing issues

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[Xperia Z General] zodiac100:
I said the htc one's video playback was acceptable, it's not as good as the Zs, S4 or G pro. Gaming is where the difference is clear.

The other guy was saying he's compared them and the Zs was washed out and horrible. Well my eyes tell me that the Zs was better and clearly too even though the htcs is acceptable.

All of a sudden, viewing angles and colour saturation or over saturation I should say has now become the only test of display capabilities. According to most tech sites, and I'm saying that's a very stupid position to take.

There's a lot more to displays than that, to suggest otherwise is misleading bordering on dishonest. It's like they show you only what they want you see. When taken in the round, to say the one's display is the best on the market is to put it mildly, untrue. It has it's strong points and weaknesses. Strong on viewing angles but that's it. Colour is subjective and cannot be used as an absolute reference to say a display is good because it's very colourful while another is bad because it's not so colorful. Some people like heavily saturated displays while others don't and that's where it ends. Broaden the comparison to include video and graphics, and the One starts to fall down the pecking order.

I can see why phones4u put it behind the Z and S4 in terms of quality. The thing most normal people spend the longest time doing on their phones is watching videos and playing games, and so if the s4 and Z are better at those things, then you've got to give those displays the upper hand irrespective of what the deep black viewing angle loving tech minority have to say about it. They can make as many nonsensical reviews as they wish, the fact remains, the one's screen isn't anywhere near what they claim it to be.
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
For myself it was out of the One or Z and I chose Z.

I preferred the look & more flexible design of the Z.

And no micro SD or NFC killed it for me with regards to the one.

Being a music lover loading up an SD card with music is a must. I find listening to my favourite artists mainly bass line orientated stuff gives me a broad smile. The sound quality of the Walkman app is simply lush. The bass response is fantastic and that's with just the stock headphones.
[Xperia Z General] nazrin313:
Planning to get the htc one for the wife as she is an htc nut.. Sooooo, we will have the Z n one in the household.. Win!!