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[General Accessories] vectron:
The whole big multi-Point I'm trying to make (watching auto-spell correction now :P) - everybody has different priorities of what they consider to be "unusable" and "awesome". Your (Apo11on) point is well taken and I appreciate your contribution to the review. Since that was not my main functional priority, I simply didn't care about multipoint connection. For those who do and will read these reviews - they will make their decision based on their priorities. I also encourage you to add what headphones you have tested which support this functionality to help others who share your multipoint priority.

Regarding HBS730 itself, they are still #1 bt headphones on Amazon with over 1500 4-star reviews and the main complaint being a wireless range.

Furthermore, I will make a point to test multipoint functionality with other bt headphones I will review in a near future. Plantronics is sending me their BackBeat Go 2 next week for review, I will test them with simultaneous connection to phone and tablet, although those are intended more for active lifestyle (exercising).
[General Accessories] makeshiftharmony:
I really enjoy mine. I pour cement for a living and wear them all day while working. Dust, rain, big time sweat has yet to slow my set down. They aren't as reliable as the 700 as far as a disconnect here or there. But problems are very far and few between. I'm using then with a galaxy note 2.
[General Accessories] Apo11on:
Plantronics BackBeat Go 2 does not support multipoint and can only handle single bluetooth connection at a time. You will not be able to do such test.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Is that from a spec or did you test it out? I actually forgot to try it when I was reviewing BBG2 (review in my signature link), will do it the next time to see if it pairs up with N2 and N7. If you have tested BBG2, was these great, uh? I know not the best battery but battery pack storage case is neat and free widget to add to your phone which gives you battery level of headphones and can disconnect/unpair with a single tap is very clever. Plus the sound quality is unbelievable, on part with some quality wired headphones.
[General Accessories] Apo11on:
It's from the specs...It's absent from the specs list and if the headset had this feature it would have been listed. Also, if you do filtering on all of their headsets by features - as soon as you select "Multipoint" the BBG2 headset is eliminated from the list of available results. To me, that seems fairly conclusive.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Ok, confirmed it with BBG2 and it does NOT support multipoint. Perhaps all these stereo two ear-piece wireless headsets are intended for personal use when people exercise or outdoors, etc. Plantronics is the leading manufacturer of headsets, so perhaps their "business" one-ear clip type of wireless headset support this multipoint feature while stereo ones don't?

I also just got notification from Anker guys, they came out with a stereo bt4.0 headset (like those business over one ear clip - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CIRGHQO). I don't see it being listed in their features, but I'm getting review sample as well and will test it out and let you know. This will be the first "stereo" headset I have seen in this type of design since in my understanding stereo gotta have 2 earpieces, not one. Will be interesting to check it out.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Just to reply to my own post lol!!! It is confirmed, Anker just told me their bt headset in the link above will support Multi-Point and they will update Amazon listing to reflect that. Of course, once I have it next week, I will review to confirm it.
[General Accessories] Apo11on:
A lot of two ear-piece headsets are specifically designed to be used in the office, while at work and their descriptions, like Jabra ones, say so. It wouldnt make much sense to assume stereo headsets are only for active lifestyle on the go. What would you use in the office then, while sitting on your butt working all day long and listening to Pandora or other music source?

As far as Anker goes, 2 things:

1. Personally, I don't care for single ear piece headsets, because my primary use of BT is for music, multimedia watching and live TV streaming. It also helps a lot to be able to listen using both ears while on the phone

2. Amazon specifications for that headset in the link you posted cannot possibly be correct, if it is indeed Bluetooth v4.0. BT4 has BLE technology built in: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy and true BT4 headset would have at least 5 times the battery life of BT 2.1 or BT3.0. The pathetic 5 hours, listed in that amazon link could not possibly be right.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Considered you posted your reply at 8:26 EST and you are on the West Coast, sounds like you been sitting too long on your butt working all day long. Time to relax man...

Unless you work in telemarketing or something like that, are you telling me two ear-piece headset that mostly come with noise canceling are designed for office use as well?!? What kind of office are you working in where you isolate yourself from outside noise not to hear anything around you and sitting and listening to Pandora and other music AND need multipoint phone? Sounds like a great job where you have multiple entertainment sources you want to stream into one set of earphones.

Regarding bt4.0 with low energy protocol, FYI - a) battery life is a function of battery size, b) BLE will improve battery life because protocol is simplified and it draws less current, but not in 5 fold improvement, c) battery drain of the wireless speaker doesn't just depend on current used by bt radio but also by current headphone speaker itself draws when you raise the volume, d) active noise canceling drains battery as well.

I brought anker headset as an example because I just got notification about review sample being sent to me, and it has multipoint support you were looking for. Briefly looking at the spec, it has sleep mode to preserve battery when you put it on a cradle, I guess it wasn't meant to be used 24 hours a day sitting on your ear.

Good luck searching for stereo wireless ear-phones with multi-point support. When you find it, please do come back and share it with us and if you can review it to benefit other forum members who are in the same boat as you are.
[General Accessories] Apo11on:
That is a really surprising comment, to say the least...I work in IT and I do programming and software testing for a living. In the R&D office of my current job, as well as every other job I ever had people use headphones. Wireless or wired - they're always stereo. When you're coding, debugging a code or doing any other similar activities, needing full concentration of your brain cells - silence or very low noise level is a necessity...

Everybody listens to some sort of streaming media service, like Pandora, Rapsody, Spotify, netflix, youtube, etc'. BT headset needs to be paired to at least one source like that plus the phone, because if you get incoming call there is no time to start disconnecting one device and trying to reconnect to your phone, while answering the call.

Needing peace & quiet at work is the most natural thing for me and it's a normal conduct in IT. What kind of office or environment do *you* work in, that you find that strange?!:confused:
[General Accessories] Apo11on:
Battery life seems kinda low, so not getting these, but here is the link per your request: http://www.elecom.co.jp/global/release/201211/lbt-hpc10/index.html

and the English packaging version: http://www.elecom.co.jp/global/release/201306/lbt-hpc10/
[General Accessories] tanyacruz:
Ok, to break the conversation, here's a feel good to answer question:

Hello, I got mine a week ago and I was wondering if it's advisable to charge it via USB or use other chargers? What limitations should I be looking for? Thank you and stay cool.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Are we talking about LG Tone+ HBS-730? Either way, these wireless headphones with micro-usb charging port don't charge at high speed, so ANY usb wall charger from 500mA to 2A should work. As a matter of fact you can even use laptop usb port (500mA typical usb2 charging current). The device will never draw more current then it's max charging capacity so there is nothing to worry about.
[General Accessories] naturecannon:
Thats life man

So you step out of range from one of your devices and you get the warning. I understand that function. Now what if you grabbed the connected laptop and ran a few offices down out of range and forgot your connected phone on your desk......wouldn't you want the warning so you didnt miss a call??

As per LG's description, this is what they had in mind for function:

How many people run off from one of the 2 devices often anyways. Your situation is inigue. Multiport was meant for 2 handsets anyways. 1 handset and a laptop (in RANGE) is a bonus. Plus most products never meet each users personal situation and needs exactly.

After making a purchase and when I find an annoying function..I always say "now if I made that it would be perfect", but would it be perfect for the other guy and his needs, probably NOT and why your using a laptop, phone and BT headset instead of one ultimate untit :laugh:

My 02. cents anyways.

I love my HBS-730
[General Accessories] liftedplane:
this is why I wear a hoodie at the gym

Now a quick question and this seems the place to ask it. I recently got this headset after looking for months for a pair to take to the gym that were under 70 I tried the motorola etc etc and finally fell in love with these my only problem is sometimes the voice commands just seem to stop working and I have to restart my phone before I can use them again. Not to mention they are annoying... I only have one option "say call, followed by a name or number.

say cancel or okay."

seriously... cancel or okay. I can't say yes. I can't send a text message... I got the BT text message reading working and I absolutely love it. but this voice dialing is extremely frustrating.

any idea on how to change this or how to get the bt button to launch google now instead... that would be awesome.

all in all this headset absolutely rocks got it for $49.99 and free 2 day shipping. I love it

Edit: got it, used bluetooth launch and forced the button to launch google search instead of the garbage google now voice commands... which is without a doubt one of the worst voice command dialers I've ever used
[General Accessories] ashouhdy:
Best aptx tech. And best sound quality ever hears over bt headsets
[General Accessories] vectron:
Are you talking about HBS-730? In regard of sound quality comparison, what other wireless headphones are you comparing it too?

It's probably weird for me, as an original reviewer of this product who started this thread, to jump in, but I'm sorry to say that out of every single wireless headset I have tested - these have the worst sound. For the reference you can checkout my review link in signature for a complete list of everything I have tested. Don't get me wrong, these have one of the best battery life, very unique and comfortable design of hanging around your neck when not in use, one of the best set of controls under your finger tips, etc. But when it comes to sound quality we are talking about BT3.0 + aptX where it doesn't shine. It was the first attempt to implement aptX codec, but they only got it right with BT4.0. All the headphones with BT4.0 + aptX sound a lot better, more dynamic and less compressed sound. The exception is Jaybirds BBX and Plantronics BBG2 (the BEST sounding wireless IEH, period!) which use their own proprietary dsp processing. I don't even know if its just a quality of LG drivers because there was hardly any bass and treble was exaggerated. These are good for making calls and listening to music in general, but if you have a bit of an audiophile in you - the sound quality of these will not impress you.
[General Accessories] ashouhdy:
Thats strange in categories below 100$ i have tried the plantronics backbeat go2 and not loud enough also backbeat go .. tried jabra sport (awful) the only exception is jabra clipper as it allows to zip ur favourite wired headphone in.

Also jaybird bluebuds.

The lg hbs 730+ was the clearest loudest and the most accepted sound quality for money (48$) with amazing battery life.

I just want to refer to an important point: playin with any preset equalizer disables the aptX and u have to reset the headset to re-enable the aptx

Also this was the best Noise cancelation in ear buds i tries from the little sets i have owned abivr.

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[General Accessories] vectron:
Well, as they say "sound quality is a matter of personal taste" and very subjective :) BBG2 have audiophile quality sound. If you think it doesn't sound as loud, you need to make sure your phone volume is up. Bluetooth volume is independent of phone volume. Plus, volume will be significantly affected by a wrong size ear-tips. Of course, nothing sounds better then $400 UE900 I recently tested, but those are wired quad armature driver studio in-ear headphones :) I have tried HBS-730 with ever eq setting and with eq off (aptX). When I first tested these, I was impressed. But as I started to review more headphones and compare it to each other, HBS-730 got pushed down the list. Just my opinion and "a matter of personal taste" ;)
[General Accessories] ashouhdy:
They are just 50 dollars set! !! Not a bose!
[General Accessories] vectron:
Exactly! When you compare the value of all the features you get for $50 - these are very good!
[General Accessories] kaitlynexus:
Volume too loud even at minimum

Hi, i'm getting a loud volume even when i set both headset and phone to minimum. I have a Nexus 4 with Kitkat. Any suggestions on how to decrease the volume? Thank you!
[General Accessories] vectron:
Something ain't right here. Have you tried pairing it up with another phone or tablet? How about pairing another set of wireless headphones with your phone? I know starting with 4.3 they introduced a new BT 4.0 w/BLE stack, but I don't recall reading about any volume issues. No issues with my Note 2 or Nexus 7.
[General Accessories] Clemont_Joy:
Thanks for the nice review. I have these and wholeheartedly recommend them as well.
[General Accessories] Sebz4n:
How are these compared to the LG Quadbeats 2?
[General Accessories] Brad.S.:
Did those come bundled with the G2?

Amazon reviews seem to be good, but found a thread here on XDA that generally does not like them.

For $21, I may give them a try as well though.
[General Accessories] Sebz4n:
They did come in the box with my G2 yea, but I am not using them.

I think they are pretty okay, but you have to angle them if you want proper bass, at least in my ears.

They don't get very loud either, I ended up going back to my Yamaha EPH30WH which I got on sale for $22
[General Accessories] MSK1:
Any picture's of what this looks like under a shirt collar?
[General Accessories] lambofgod13:
I got a pair about a month ago, i love em.

I still don't understand what multipoint does, is it you can be connected to two devices simultaneously? If so I've tried but it don't work.
[General Accessories] quadraginta:
Has anyone found a source for repairs?

I love my 730. We have three pairs. However, the on/off switch went belly up on one, and it is (one month) out of warranty. LG customer service told me ... politely ... to take a hike.

Seems a shame to trash them for a bad switch, but small electronics repair is not my forte.

I haven't been able to find anywhere with Google that offers a repair service for them.

Any help would be appreciated.
[General Accessories] Tha_Dynasty2049:
https://www.lg.com/us/support/repair-service/schedule-repair
[General Accessories] Intruder7s:
These seem great with a great price tag also!

The thing is, the are released about 1 year ago so I am wondering, should I buy them or has anything else come out at that price range 20-35 $ that offers something better??

Thanks.
[General Accessories] :
I'm in Intruder7s boat. Loving these, but wondering if it's worth waiting for a potential refresh at this point.
[General Accessories] Intruder7s:
Hey mate. Look at the date of my post. Probably no one has an answer.

I searched a bit and couldn't find anything better at that price point so I went ahead and ordered them

I suggest you do some reading and make a decision by yourself :D

Cheers
[General Accessories] vectron:
You can get HBS-730 on amazon for $50, while the successor HBS-800 is $130. From what I see, 800 uses new JBL audio drivers and a slightly different design. I'm sure the sound quality will be better, but if you consider $80 price difference, 730 is one great buy.
[General Accessories] :
Thanks all, going with the 730!
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Google NOW

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Is it integrated with Google NOW?

i mean when u press call button will google now activate or not?

thanks

:good:
[General Accessories] vectron:
HBS-730 is different from all of my other wireless headphones since it has dedicated play/pause, a separate track skip next/prev, dedicated call and volume up/down. I just tried play/pause and it only controls music even when you hold it down. With call button, holding it down activates redial of last number. Maybe there is a trick around it, or perhaps they integrated it into HBS-800, but not with 730. But in all my uses of wireless headphones, I never needed google now activation so its not a big deal. I think a beauty of 730 separate play and call controls is an advantage with a higher value than Google now.

I will try to ping my LG contacts to see if I can get HBS-800 for review. Would be curious to see what they have changed.
[General Accessories] :
yeah LG has mentioned integration of HBS800 with google now.

but would u pls check it on 730 simply what happen when u press call button?

and onenmore question;

how durable is it? its cable are Strong enough?

or using in rain or sweat?? will it die?

thanks

:good:
[General Accessories] vectron:
I already mentioned in my reply holding call button redials the last number.

Regarding durability they seem to be decent. To be honest, I get so many accessories for reviews (check out my sig link) that I don't get a chance to do extended testing with all of them. As a matter of fact I haven't even touched these 730 for at least 6 months. Had to look for it and charge it up just so I can answer your question.
[General Accessories] apeiiron:
Just got a 730 today after seeing everyone and their brother with one. Used it for about an hour, sound is better than I expected. Fumbled with controls, but that's a given as well. The only gripe I have is that since I have a thick neck (I guess?) when I turn my head far the cords get a little too tight against me. That aside, pretty happy.
[General Accessories] MSK1:
Does it stay hidden if ur wearing a collared shirt?

With or without a tie?
[General Accessories] apeiiron:
I suppose it would, but you wouldn't be able to access the ear buds. Wouldn't need a tie because the front is fairly open. Unless you have an incredibly small neck lol
[General Accessories] jlczl:
I wear mine hidden underneath my collared shirt. It works great, the only thing people can see is the wire coming from underneath my shirt and into the earbud in my ear.
[General Accessories] MSK1:
Is that with or without a tie?

And would it work for either. ..

It's sounding quite good tbh
[General Accessories] nolig2278:
Bought the LG Tone Ultra 800 a few days ago. Sound is great, barely notice I am wearing it, but I cant get it to listen through the 800 when I am trying to use Google Now / Voice Commands.

I have it multipoint connecting with Rezound with KitKat and Nexus 7.

Thanks
[General Accessories] lambofgod13:
In Google now settings select voice settings then select google now thru Bluetooth head set
[General Accessories] nolig2278:
already tried but still not working. anything i can reset or anything else to adjust?

does this work for you.
[General Accessories] lambofgod13:
Yes mine work with Google voice. I have the 730 series.
[General Accessories] nolig2278:
Are you connects to 2 devices? Any special tricks to get Bluetooth microphone to work besides the setting in Google now?
[General Accessories] lambofgod13:
Yes i have it synced with other devices. It could be the Google search your device is running. In running the 4.4.2 Google search. If your on jelly bean it won't work.
[General Accessories] vectron:
I should be getting a review sample of LG HBS-800 earlier next week. Will test it out with my Note 2 (stock 4.3) and will let you know.
[General Accessories] abandon42:
Not sure if my mute is working correctly. It doesn't seem to respond. Does it normally provide a notification of mute status?

Mic Mute - press and hold Vol Up/down simultaneously for 1 second to mute/unmute (great for conference calls).
[General Accessories] tanyacruz:
Working out!

Working out!

Hello, does anyone figured a way to keep their hbs-730 in place while working out? It gets displaced while jumping so I ended up tying the open ends with a short string of cloth. It does work but its ugly. I was just wondering if anyone got a better solution! Thank you! Enjoy listening!
[General Accessories] vectron:
Maybe weight it down with something? But then, you will have a piece of dangling weight on the back bouncing as you jump lol! These are really not intended for such active use. For that you will need to look into something like Backbeat Go 2 or BlueBud X.
[General Accessories] Chapstickman:
Thanks for the write up! Pulled the trigger on this thing hopefully its here sooner than later. Will be used with a Nexus 5.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Just posted my review of LG Tone Ultra HBS-800 model: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2718096 - check it out!
[General Accessories] Sanningr:
Hey guys, can anyone confirm that these headphones work correctly with DN5 rom? It seems to me that compared to other roms they have less range, bad sound quality and disconnection issues. Can anyone confirm it?
[General Accessories] vectron:
Sorry, I'm stock. No issues here.
[General Accessories] The_other_ray:
Is there a way to boost the bass?
[General Accessories] vectron:
Change EQ setting, one of the built in presets cuts the mids thus creating v-shaped sound to boost lows. Also, if you find another eartips with a smaller bore (narrower opening), that works like a filter to emphasize low frequencies.

Other than that a simplest solution just to boost low frequency with EQ on your audio player on the phone or tablet.
[General Accessories] SacJester:
Noise Reduction during phone calls

I have heard a few complaints about background noise during phone calls. I own the 730 and I love almost everything about them but I was wondering if there was a way that I could use my phone's built in noise reduction microphone to kill some of the background noise. I work around heavy equipment, and it is always a low pitched steady background noise, my phone could easily hear it in my pocket. I am looking for options so I don't have to scrap my perfectly good model to upgrade to the 800 series.
[General Accessories] vectron:
800 has better mic sensitivity and noise reduction. I don't use my 730 in noisy environment but after if I'm using these while running or biking people complain about background wind noise. Still, to date these are among my favorite wireless headphones...
[General Accessories] Framedtrash:
I picked up a pair of these babys after loosing my jaybird bluebuds

Very happy with the audio quality and the call quality of these ear phones

They do a far better job at suppressing the background noise during phone calls compared to the jaybirds

I got them as new on eBay for $30 a set of bluebuds is over $120
[General Accessories] Atharkhan101:
Time?

The user code guide says to press the volume down button for 1 second to hear the time. Well its not working. I'm sure it's a genuine headset. Working for anybody?