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[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
How about apk installs?

You guys know you can just install apk versions of those free apps then update them from the Play Store like normal right?

You could also dirty flash over your current Rom and keep all your apps and setup, I did:D
[TouchPad Development] thecatinthehat420:
By dirty flash you mean flashing over without wiping cache right? Okay I'll give that a try.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Correction

Hey sorry I meant that I did clear my caches but I flashed over a previous Rom. I didn't do a fresh and clean install, like one should with a new Rom;)

I find the best success when I flash over CM9 with a CM10.1 Rom, I get less apps that need to be reinstalled this way.
[TouchPad Development] thecatinthehat420:
Yeah I didn't bother with not clearing cache. Mostly because I'm pretty sure it would boot looped and then I'd have to wait 10 minutes for the restore again.

I wiped cache and flashed over the CM10 version of this mod and then flashed gapps-jb-20130301-signed. That fixed most but not all of the play store glitches where apps would show as incompatible. In particular apps that I used to have installed (nova launcher) would show up as incompatible when I wanted to try them out in this mod.

I got the android.process.acorn force close glitch which I think I fixed last time by clearing the cache for contacts but that didn't work. Then the really weird part was when I'd pull up the gmail page in the play market it would show as incompatible which I guess makes sense because every time I'd try to open gmail I'd get android.process.acorn force closes till the app shut down. I'm pretty I flashed the correct version of gapps so I'm not sure what's going on there.

TBH there's a lot of things I prefer in the CM10 version of this mod (and things I think android 4.1 does better than 4.2 in general). Pie settings are easily found in settings. I couldn't find them in CM10.1. The multitasking bar is better in CM10. I'll probably give this rom another chance when I figure out what's going on the play store.
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
FWIW, I agree wholeheartedly. The only reason I built it is because early adopters need something to do with their hands :)
[TouchPad Development] lotherius:
Technically, that may be true.

However, you lose the ability to receive app updates. Even some GOOGLE apps were showing up as not compatible. I'd rather not have to resort to hunting down APK files constantly just to get updates. Not only that, but installing new apps is troublesome as well... It basically breaks the Play Store.

Now, reading further I see the issue appears to be that for some reason this ROM is setting the default DPI at 155. I'm here to say THAT NEEDS TO STOP. It breaks the market and forces people to either change their DPI to a supported value (160 or 120, except you can't set this ROM to 160 it seems), or run a patched version of the market which has to be updated every time the market updates.

Just ship it at 160dpi like every other tenderloin ROM in the history of the Touchpad. If Paranoid/AOKP sources expect 155 or less.... change it in source.

I'm sorry if this seems rude, but breaking something as basic as the market is really not a good move. Trying to say that it's okay because APK files can be downloaded outside the market is just boneheaded.

Like I said in my previous post, there's a lot of good work here. It is quite impressive. But this is a pretty huge flaw that needs to be fixed.
[TouchPad Development] cajunflavoredbob:
Would you do my laundry if I asked nicely enough? :p

I think this is the only ROM out of all my devices that I've spent more than a week on. The only thing I miss is BT for my keyboard, but Swiftkey handles its own in the meantime. This ROM rocks my socks.
[TouchPad Development] I7V:
Very nice roooom thnx alot for it
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
[rom update] 07jun2013

I've posted an update, classified as RC0, that fixes the Permissions Manager, modifies the PA Preferences and configuration and sets the default DPI=160. Sound settings still FC's.

Enjoy.
[TouchPad Development] MerenQue:
Alternative Download via file-upload.net: skz_tenderloin-2.00_jb_4.2.2-07JUN2013-101245.zip

Just click at the little "Download" in the middle to download the file.
[TouchPad Development] Theseus04:
First of all thanks for the ROM, i have been using it for 3 days now, previously using jcsullins rom, i just miss the slickness and responsiveness in this one, does one any have the same experience, my touchpad lags , it was so responsive with jcsullins rom, any fix for this....

once again thanks for the ROM....
[TouchPad Development] chicle_11:
here's a quote from shumash. it sounds like DPI is no longer an issue.
[TouchPad Development] Mchasard:
I just give a try with this rom... Interesting but sound settings make reboot settings...

Am I the only guy to get such troubles?
[TouchPad Development] benru89:
I'ts one of the know issues, sound setting force closes, its written on the main post and also just above your post....
[TouchPad Development] Dongers:
What speed do u set your processor to? I'm generally running @1.5 or 1.7 (and so expect to see it drain more battery when using the tp) but drain during sleep never seems to go below 70ma (although i am monitoring on the 7 June build atm and it seems better). Recently reflashed A6 too as I'd bricked it (SOD)

Also, the play compatibility issues seem to come and go on various ROMs, SGA had problems with one of his fat n creamies at one stage, and i have seen with schizoid too. Generally, its seems to be a bad flash, as reflashing can cure it (worked a few times in the past for me).

Have to say tho, I'm using this as a daily driver and while a little unstable at times, it is VERY usable. All credit to shumash, he is doing a fantastic job with this. Loving my tp again, probably as much as when SGA dropped his final fat n creamy build, which was the most stable and capable build of android on the tp (and I've been flashing it since the early cm7 builds so like to think i have seen most ROMs for the tp)

Good work Shumash!

Cheers

Dongers
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Battery Drain

Hey Dongers

For all of my Rom videos I use stock settings, 1.2Ghz with the governor set to interactive. For my Gaming videos I overclock from 1.5 to 1.7 depending on the game with the governor set to performance. The governor settings can also effect your battery drain, for instance performance will keep the CPU clocked at the max rate. Conservative my be worth a try if you are running higher clocks.

There can also be a variety of other reasons why you can't achieve a low battery drain, like too many apps open in the background. You can use the free Cool Tools app to test your device and see whats happening in the background. Watch this video tutorial and try testing your TouchPad.:)

[YOUTUBE]TZIVZ-zMfeo[/YOUTUBE]

Are you still experiencing app incompatibility in the Play Store using Shumah's June 7 build? I was under the impression that this build would fix that issue but I haven't had a chance to test it yet.
[TouchPad Development] _kevn_:
Hybrid properties>apps>play store change DPI to 160 from 155 > press the check to save. Go to settings>apps>all>play store then clear data and cache. Reboot recovery clear cache and dalvik. Restart. Working play store. I just did this while waiting for my download of the June 7 build.

I would guess anyone who knows about DPI and the play store, especially if complaining about it being 155 and not 160, would know how to go and fix this quickly and easily instead of ;85=-8,* about it.

Thank you Shumash for the awesome ROM and quick turn around to fix a couple "Issues"!

*edited for calling hybrid properties, hybrid settings and paranoid preferences. Oops
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Everything is tested and working, thanks Shumash!

@ Shumash, Thank you, Thank you.

I've tested audio with the screen off for 1hr now and no evil clown beeps! Audio with the screen off fixed:good:

Default dpi is now set to 160; I installed Google Chrome and the Nova launcher to test it. Dpi Play Store Compatibility fixed:good:

The only thing that's still a little off is the the navigation bar at the bottom. Its slightly too large and squishes my screen and icon text a bit.

Looking good, thanks again for taking the time to make this new build. I've just got to have music with the screen off, Tenderloin, tenderloin, tenderloin!:good:

Update! I'm am seeing a minimun of -60mA battery drain during sleep. I just flashed my A6 so more testing needs to be done, Sorry:crying:
[TouchPad Development] Dongers:
Governor is interactive, always have it set on it, i/o scheduler is deadline, maybe that's the issue. Might try some changes there and see hows it goes....

As for play store, i personally haven't had an issues, was just commenting on the troll moaning about it a few pages back. SGA did actually make SOME changes on fat n creamy when i had the issues then with one of his builds. The convo i had about it with him is in the first few pages on his FnC thread. That WASNT down to bad flashes or DPI settings (i did some testing for him on various DPI and i always run Schizoid on 120 anyway). That's why i suggested that a bad flash could have been the issue for the guy moaning about it. Shame SGA isn't around any more to see what he did to correct it (did anyone every find out what happened to him....?)

Still, I'm loving this ROM, its replaced FnC CM9 on THIS tp!

Cheers

Dongers

---------- Post added at 12:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:48 AM ----------

Just realised it sounds like I'm contradicting myself there! D'oh!

I mean i have seen that issue on OTHER ROMs and there it was caused by bad flashes, as it corrects itself if u flash again.

Cheers

Dongers
[TouchPad Development] Teejai80:
Just installed today's update over a very clean install (yesterday) and Dpi is now 160, however, playstore is still all incompatible. Wiped all the caches.

Any suggestions?

Also my Wifi is turning off with screen off, but I can't find the Wifi advanced settings to have it always on?

Edit: nvm on the Wifi had three dot menu off
[TouchPad Development] Teejai80:
Ok fixed...... No idea how. Lol

Turned on three dot, checked Wifi, it was already stay always on. Oddly now it stays on.

Went into playstore settings, restart playstore and apps are working. 0.o

I had done a data wipe on playstore previously. Maybe three dot menu missing was breaking everything?
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
It seems to peak occasionally, but try turning on the wifi, using it, suspending with wifi on, then turning it wifi off works sometimes. I'm not sure what the problem is, but it has always ratcheted back down eventually.
[TouchPad Development] lotherius:
What's to moderate on that post? You may not like what I said, but it was all on topic and accurate, and offered a solution which was to use 160dpi rather than 155. I'm sorry I wasn't polite enough, but sometimes I just stick to the facts.

And, Shumash has fixed the bug, for which I'm sure a lot of people are very thankful, including myself.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Boot Animation Switching

Oh Right, I forgot about that! Thank you for the suggestion I'll give that a go now too. I had the WiFi Switched off, I'm going to reinstall if that doesn't work.

I was also having another problem with changing my Boot Animation from the Rom Control. I keep getting the "Unfortunately Rom Control has stopped" message before the preview is generated. I was actually just putting together a Boot Animation thread but I wasn't able to change any of my own from the rom. I would really like to use that little preview window, any ideas what I might be doing wrong?

[Boot Animation] Roland's HP TouchPad Custom Boot Videos

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Star Wars boot animation, 1024x768 8.29MB

[YOUTUBE]j7ywCUK5h0w[/YOUTUBE]

Army of Darkness, 1024x768 13.2MB

Army of Darkness, 1024x768 XL 21.48MB
[TouchPad Development] _kevn_:
Boot animation switching is working here. I haven't flashed the June 7 build yet though so in still on the previous one.

The one before that, I remember having a problem of the switch not sticking, where it would say that it was changed but it didn't work.

Will report back when I flash the newest one.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
Its all good, now lets get back to testing:)

How is the market for you now, did you test it out? Chrome and Nova launcher downloaded fine for me, the more people testing the better:good: Facts are good but polite facts are better;) We have more issues that need testing now anyhow. I'm seeing some high battery drain during sleep, which I have not been able to reduce. Is anyone else having similar issues? Lets see some sleep history, post em if you got em:) Also I have been unsuccessful when changing the Boot Animation, so if anyone has success with that please let me know.
[TouchPad Development] _kevn_:
Did a dirty install just flashing the ROM over the top with just cache/dalvik wipe. Boot animation picker still worked.

I decided to sacrifice settings in the name of testing and wiped everything 3 times>flash ROM>flash gapps>1 more cache/dalvik wipe and I'm now setting up.

Will report back in a few.

*edit* yeah totally should've nandroid'd it. Whoops! Ha!
[TouchPad Development] Bwangster12:
Does this have that script that JCSullins' roms has where it shuts down automatically at like 3% while saying 0%?

Is that even something we havta worry about with these 4.2.2 roms? Do I havta prevent the touchpad from totally draining?
[TouchPad Development] _kevn_:
So the TP is charging. The two things I checked initially were the play store and boot animation switcher. They are both working as expected. Sound setting still closes settings as expected.

The one or two checks on the battery have been around -150MA when sleeping, before I got it on the charger. I'll be checking it more throughout the evening and over night to see how it does. I haven't done that firmware fix yet so I'll be looking into that a bit more in the coming days too.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Don't know if Shumash has included J.C. 3% shutdown in his build or not. However, regardless, one should not be letting their TouchPad drain that low anyway. Battery manufacturers warn that constantly letting a lithium battery drain is bad for it. Only NiMH and Nicad batteries had to be drained to prevent memory effect. Doing that to lithium batteries has just the opposite effect, it shortens their lifespan. If my batteries are below 50% when I go to shut it down for the day, I recharge them. I've never had to replace the battery, debrick and BMW reports both my TouchPad's battery health as excellent at almost two years old.
[TouchPad Development] Divine_Madcat:
Again guys.. please keep the fighting to a minimum. lets keep the discussion about roms and android.. mmk?
[TouchPad Development] gill_za:
What is the app you are using to get battery drain history?

Thank you.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
BMW

We are using BMW, all the info is below. If you have a high drain its recommended to try reflash the A6 Firmware. Have fun;)

How to test:

How to monitor your battery

To monitor your battery drain history during sleep install the free app Battery Monitor Widget:

-Once installed open the app and go to history to see a log of your devices sleep history.

-To setup the Battery Calibration correctly for the HP TouchPad,

-go to BMW settings/calibration/Battery capacity/ and set it to 6300 (*f29c), 6000 (*i29c) or 5800 (*s29c) and tap OK

-Note* See the Battery p/n # on the original packaging.

Or

You can also use Cool-Tools to monitor your battery drain in real time.

-Watch the instructional video Here.

[YOUTUBE]5lOGY94RRDs[/YOUTUBE]
[TouchPad Development] colt223:
Thanks for this, I was about to reflash to get the 3 dots back.

:)
[TouchPad Development] olufadi1:
decided to take the jump from cm9 to cm10.1 today. So far loving this rom. so many options and customizations. Thanks for the hard work.
[TouchPad Development] Dongers:
Don't think it is....had to de-brick couple of weeks back That's no to say it hasn't been added since....AutomateIt now running on my TP set to shutdown at 10% as a precaution tho.... :)

---------- Post added at 09:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:44 PM ----------

Battery drain has gone up! :'( Was seeing around 60-70ma, now I'm getting 140-170 with peaks of 200-220 on June 7 build....even dropped process back to 1.2ghz after flashing this build to see if i could hit some of your scores......

June 7th build IS more stable than previous builds tho, and the random 'not waking from sleep' i had seen on some of the earlier builds seems resolved now....

Still loving it, Shumash :)
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
The 3% setting is in the kernel. Your power drain is very strange. While I do get erratic temporary jumps, it rarely exceeds 40mA, and the majority of the time I'm in the 7-10mA range. Check to see it you have some rogue apps that set wakelocks. I've seen several apps do that and had to freeze them. Also check and make sure you're not leaving wifi on during sleep.
[TouchPad Development] Bwangster12:
Yeah I'm definitely seeing higher than expected battery drain also. With nothing syncing and a bunch of things even Greenified... Location off too... I was seeing 60 to 80 ma.
[TouchPad Development] olufadi1:
Not really sure if I have the original packaging anymore (it has been a while)... any suggestions of the calibration choice if this is the case?
[TouchPad Development] olufadi1:
Also, I can't slide the bar on performance control to increase the CPU speed. When I go to performance control, it says superuser has been granted, but the slider does not respond. I thought this rom came with a custom kernel for overclocking? Did I do something wrong or might I have to reflash? Thanks for any help.

Edit: when i go to performance control, the "super user granted" message persistently flashes. Even after i exit it takes a while for the message to disappear.
[TouchPad Development] FaberfoX:
Same here on a clean flash, I'm using rom toolbox pro to overclock so the kernel is ready, the bug seems to be at performance control.
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
[ROM Update RC1] 11JUN2013

I've uploaded an update that fixes the Sound Settings force close and merges upstream. This is an RC release, where it will remain until "someone" gets bluetooth working.

Enjoy.
[TouchPad Development] _kevn_:
You're awesome! Thank you

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[TouchPad Development] Lyok0ne:
Thanks for the new release, love your rom :)

I was wondering if this release include the all new PA feature HALO just open-sourced today ??

Edit : it's include, amazing work :D It's just only working with the phone configuration for now ;)
[TouchPad Development] JustMeToo:
I didn't try today's update yet but with the one from the 7th every time I reboot I have to relog into my play store account and into my amazon account. For some reason a reboot wipes them. It may be doing it for email too but I don't use the gmail app so I can't tell.
[TouchPad Development] olufadi1:
I don't know if anyone has noticed it but I may have found another bug. I get force closes in the calendar app in agenda and month view. Can anyone else confirm this?
[TouchPad Development] Trainer_H:
i also got sound fc, and i can't change cpu speed.

it shows like i didn't can use the full screen. it's like to move a little bit up and down herenyou can see the black beam.

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[TouchPad Development] I7V:
thnx for awesome rom
[TouchPad Development] graffix31:
sorry to say this but you really should read the op before posting questions like this. it specifically says no nav buttons when in portrait. :p

looks like you ninja'd me and found your answer as I was writing this, nice work.
[TouchPad Development] I7V:
i edited the comment before i read ur comment so it is now extra question :confused:

i was excited about the rom so i flashed it any way before read any thing :silly:

any way thnx for ur reply bro :)
[TouchPad Development] fraydz:
Thank you for your work ! i will try it as soon as i get my hands on my TP.

Just one question. I read the entire topic and i couldn't figure out which gapps to flash. OP says latest don't work, users say they are.. i just wanted that point to be clear. Anyway i'll try different versions until i get something working.
[TouchPad Development] cqloveqc:
i flashed the latest version, it works
[TouchPad Development] Gil1957:
When I go into Apps, I can't see anything that says System Applications. I must be looking in the wrong place. Thanks for some help in advance.
[TouchPad Development] cqloveqc:
Which launcher do you use, i think there is a problem with system launcher, recommend you use Nova launcher, it can solve the problem
[TouchPad Development] Gil1957:
Thanks. I will give it a try
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Not Apps, Settings. Look for the app named Settings.
[TouchPad Development] wqt0926:
shumash, i'm using HTC sensation CM10.1[kang], in that thread, it says it's based on MS8660-common kernel, I'm wondering if it may help with the kernel dev work of TP, if not, just ignore me. Here is the link(see the latest update):http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2115520
[TouchPad Development] Zerosuit Connor:
I flashed 121212 for 4.2.1 and have had no problems since.

Sent from my HP Touchpad with Android 4.2.2
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
Did you do the clean flash or dirty flash. I tried dirty flash but running into acore has stopped error message which I tried to fix by clearing settings under settings/app/all apps/ settings.

I have removed both) f my Google accounts and may remove all the yahoo and exchange to see if that takes care of the acore message.
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Read the thread. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40010586&postcount=7
[TouchPad Development] rob_z11:
I did read the same thread and i was able to find the same post on Google where some HTC one users were complaining about it and was able to fix by removing contacts.

I will dig around more to see if there is something I an forgetting. Clearing cache for settings under settings/apps/all apps/setting did not help me.
[TouchPad Development] fraydz:
i finally gave it a try. Coming from jcsullins unofficial cm10. dirty flash (only wiped cache/dalvik) with 20130301 gapps :

- gapps worked

- UI was messed up. I tried every UI in settings, i couldn't obtain something ok.

- touchscreen was rebellious. (options were checked as i wanted to scroll, etc)

no complaining here of course, just giving some feedback and keeping in mind some of those issues are coming from me. i'll try a clean install next.
[TouchPad Development] Zerosuit Connor:
Wiped everything, as i usually do, that's system, data, cache, dalvik cache. Then i flash the ROM, Google apps, wipe cache and dalvik once more and fix permissions.

No problems so far, everything works as expected.

Clean install should remedy everything, I've only had the "rebellious touchscreen" issue twice, and a reboot fixed it :)

Sent from my HP Touchpad with Android 4.2.2
[TouchPad Development] reynoben:
Wifi turning off

Has anyone else noticed their WiFi turning off in deep sleep, even though under Advanced options it is configured to be Always On? If I turn off the screen and turn it back on in a minute or two, WiFi is still on and connected. But if I leave it for 30 mins or an hour, WiFi gets turned off.

*** EDIT ***

Looks like found my answer in another forum. Will test it to be sure :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40103679&postcount=33
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
h/w video support with CM10.1

Deleted:)
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
turning off "WiFi optimization"

Interesting I've noticed this and after I tried to refresh my Browser the pages wouldn't load. Once I turned off "WiFi optimization" I don't seem to have this problem anymore:D
[TouchPad Development] reynoben:
Yep. That did it. WiFi is always on now once optimization was turned off.