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[One (M7) General] Toaster Strudels:
I bought the 64GB version just because its 1) going to hold resale value a lot better, 2) will NEVER have to think about needing more space, even though I only have about 2GB of music, and 3) will come in a box labeled "Dev Edition". Worth $80 to me.
[One (M7) General] kirdroid:
In my opinion if you are already paying $575 I see no reason not to go for 64 GB given that this has no micro SD. Some folks may not need more than 32 which might be true with me as well. But I'm not thinking about saving some $75 dollars and later regret that I should have gone for 64. Also lot of reviews say Zoe takes up lots of storage so 64 might come handy. People spend 100s of dollars on useless cases and screen protectors so 75 more for double storage is OK in my opinion.
[One (M7) General] americasteam:
My thoughts exactly.
[One (M7) General] crawlgsx:
Valid points.

Personally I have no use for 64gb (I have never filled 16gb) so I'd rather just save the $75.

Either one is a great choice anyway, I think we can all agree on that :D
[One (M7) General] rohitgarewal:
What about warranty? Since the developer edition has the bootloader unlocked from the factory, it should have the warranty intact. However, the 32gb version would go through htcdev.com, which explicitly states you lose your warranty if you unlock the bootloader.
[One (M7) General] tell4ever:
I really got confused about which one to order, was going to order the att 32 gigs version at first, but why would I pay 599 when I can get the unlocked one for 575

I also thought about getting the dev edition but yet I don't use a lot of storage and it would save me like 80 bucks, and as for development I really think the two handsets will get the same roms and mods
[One (M7) General] arzin:
I was in the same situation but then I cancelled my 64gb version and ordered for 32gb version since the boot loader can be unlocked as confirmed by HTCdev. I use pandora a lot and so I don't save many music files on my phone. It's gonna be less than 2 gb for sure. Only space i need is for movies, photos and apps for which I guess about 25gb would be more than enough for me.

The developer edition might get a box stating developer edition but who cares for the box. So extra 80$ for the box and extra memory not worth it to me.
[One (M7) General] rajeshr:
Looks like the current supply of the Dev Edition and the 32GB unlocked version have run out - it now shows that they are backordered! I'm glad I got in on the first run! :good:
[One (M7) General] expertzero1:
Heres the direct link to the 64 gb http://shopamerica.htc.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm

Since you cant click on it anymore on the homepage, you can also go to Shop > Developer edition or Shop > 32 GB Unlocked
[One (M7) General] rafucho:
went for the 32GB Unlocked ed, save $80 for a nice dinner ;)
[One (M7) General] gustav30:
Do we know how much free ram is available? Doesn't HTC usually use like 4 gig leaving the user with perhaps 28 gb or 60 gb depending on the 32 Gb or 64 gb model?
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
For 32gb version, it was 25.24gb phone storage, and 6.76 of App storage. These are from one x, I think same goes to the one.

And Imo the figures will just be doubled for 64gb version.

And it's ROM not Ram
[One (M7) General] gustav30:
Thanks. I thought the user had access to random access memory and not read only memory for storage.
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
RAM is not memory for storing apps; it's memory for running them (the One has 2GB, which is on par with high end devices today, same as the S3 US versions, Note 2, Nexus 4, and S4). What you're referring to is internal storage.
[One (M7) General] gustav30:
Gotcha. Thanks
[One (M7) General] rpmccormick:
So according to that, the TMO/Sprint are both missing LTE frequencies, and the AT&T is the same as the unlocked/dev. However... nothing says anything about the 1700 WCDMA band needed for TMO in non-upgraded areas. Are we even sure the TMO version will have this? Can someone please point me to a spec-sheet anywhere showing that TMO 1700 HSPA+ will work?

I ordered two... one Dev Edition and one TMO version. I may end up getting one from TMO for cheaper though (and for the free car-kit).

I plan to use one on Solavei (http://www.solavei.com/rpmccormick) which is unlimited T-Mobile service (don't even need an unlocked SIM) which I get for $9/mo after having refered 6 people.

I don't know which to keep. I think Austin has the 1900, so the Dev Edition should work for me, but if the TMO really has 1700 HSPA+ then I might prefer having that when traveling. Please some one prove to me weather the TMO version works on 1700 or not.
[One (M7) General] oryan_dunn:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/15

The GSM/WCDMA/LTE version does have hardware support for AWS HSPA+. It's just disabled on the AT&T/unlocked versions.

The T-Mo version drops the 850/1900 LTE support for AWS HSPA+.

http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=4041
[One (M7) General] rpmccormick:
Thanks. Awesome review in first link.

T-Mobile US: 850/AWS/1900/2100

(HSDPA 42, HSUPA 5.76)

AT&T: 850/1900/2100

(HSDPA 21, HSUPA 5.76)

"T-Mobile version supports WCDMA 1700 instead of LTE 850/1900".

But you said: The GSM/WCDMA/LTE version does have hardware support for AWS HSPA+. It's just disabled on the AT&T/unlocked versions.

Is that true? Is it likely that people will be able to enable it for the Dev Edition and have all radios, or is it always a choice between that or the other 2 LTE bands. (All so strange)
[One (M7) General] oryan_dunn:
Yes, in fact, here's a thread on just that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2222791

Well, there are only 3 hardware versions of the phone, so one would have to assume you could enable/disable bands by flashing different firmwares. If it'll be that easy, no one knows just yet. Could you enable all bands, no one knows that either, but I'd have to assume HTC would have had that on the Dev version if it were possible.

What's odd, is the dev version has the same bands as the AT&T version. It looks like the T-Mo version will be the most compatible for NA use, so why issue a dev version for NA that won't work on the other big GSM network?
[One (M7) General] Nyxagamemnon:
Looks like time to wait for a hack to enable all the bands :)
[One (M7) General] Sango2:
It's not really that odd, seems typical for a quad-band phone for intentional. There are other major popular carriers in NA which use the same band as AT&T, such as Rogers, Fido, and a few others Canadian providers. It's the smaller providers ones which uses the other frequency.
[One (M7) General] oryan_dunn:
I guess I could restate my point... what providers in NA use LTE on 850/1900?
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
AT&T. T-Mobile is in the process of switching to it (you'll get HSPA+ with an AT&T phone in some refarmed areas). Rogers in Canada. Bell also I believe. Telus GSM I think (they do both GSM and CDMA I think). Most NA carriers do it or are switching to it.

For T-Mobile areas on using it, check http://airportal.de

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[One (M7) General] oryan_dunn:
They're in the process of switching to HSPA+ on 1900 MHz. T-Mobile's using AWS (1700MHz) for LTE, and AT&T is using both 700 and 1700MHz for LTE.

I'm not sure on the Canadian carriers, but it seems most carriers use 1900Mhz for 2G/3G, and put their LTE elsewhere.

The only major carrier that uses PCS(1900MHz) for LTE in the US is MetroPCS, which is quite odd that the T-Mo version drops PCS LTE, when they're trying to aquire them. Other than that, dropping PCS would affect the Dominican Republic, Paraguay, and Sprint, but Sprint has it's own model of the One. Also, C-Spire, but I lump them in with Sprint.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks#Americas

So, still don't understand why the North American Dev version is the AT&T version and not the T-MO version.
[One (M7) General] Sango2:
Ahh, gotcha. I wasn't considering LTE as part of it.

None do.

---------- Post added at 08:31 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:16 AM ----------

I didn't know the Canada is also re-framing as well. I'll ask my friend since he works for Rogers, so he might have some info about this.

For T-Mobile Corporate HQ, in WA definitely got re framed and turned on a while ago. My friend had a iPhone5 unlocked and using it on the T-Mobile, getting the slow speeds until one day, he said, he got LTE now!

I'm also curious about it. Maybe they may have a different offering in the future, who knows.
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
Rogers was always on the same bands as AT&T. They're basically the GSM Verizon of Canada (they're the biggest cell phone network, do cable, television, etc). They have the same phones as AT&T, plus a bunch of Sony ones and ones we don't get here in the US. There are a couple that get the same phones as T-Mobile and run off of AWS HSPA+, such as Wind and Mobilicity. Not sure if they're refarming, but seeing as how they're small carriers that order the same phones as T-Mobile (the CEO of Mobilicity said they just order what T-Mobile does because it's cheaper and they don't have enough customers to justify paying for their own, unique phones), they'll probably refarm themselves as well.

I'm happy T-Mobile is refarming. I always found it stupid that they used AWS while most of the world used the standard 850/900/1900/2100 MHz.
[One (M7) General] Sango2:
For re framing for Canada, I was more like in reference in the LTE bands. For GSM frequencies, Rogers and the others do use the standard.

Oh yes, I'm familiar with Rogers. They are no longer in western Canada as it's Shaw for their cable/television side as it's Shaw. Long story, but I understood the story back at the time when Rogers and Shaw did their swap.
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
Oh sorry, I just got on my computer and noticed you're in Canada lol. I go up there every year. My mom's side of the family all live in Ottawa, so I know it well. And I have an uncle that works for I think Nortel, and they supply a lot of the transmitters/antennas to carriers in North America.
[One (M7) General] Danillaco:
That's what I was thinking too. I'm going to NY in July, and I am really inclined to buy it. Just a dumb question, all 64gb unlocked are developers editions, right?
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
If you're not buying directly from HTC, ask. Because in the US, the only other 64GB editions are the AT&T-branded ones (AT&T logo on the back). And make sure it's a US variant because other countries may be sending 64GB and someone listing it on eBay may put it on eBay as a 64GB Dev Edition when it's not.
[One (M7) General] Danillaco:
OK, thanks. One more thing, in Brazil we use GSM 900/1800, so I shouldn't be worried about not working, right? Every phone (Iphone, SIII, SIV...) all do, even when improted. LTE is just a distant option, while we don't even have a respectable 3G, but they will use 2.5-2.6ghz.

Thanks again!
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
Double check, because I don't think it does 1800 MHz.

EDIT: No 3G on 1800 MHz. From HTC's order page:

So depending on your carrier, you'll only get EDGE if their 3G both 900 and 1800 MHz, or if it's either one or the other, you'll get EDGE in areas where there's only 1800 MHz. 1800 MHz is an odd frequency by the way. The generally-used frequencies, at least for the US and Europe, are 850/900/1900/2100 MHz.
[One (M7) General] Danillaco:
Sorry, just looked better:

GSM

900/1800

3G

850, 2100

So, I'm covered. Thanks again!
[One (M7) General] Product F(RED):
You're covered for 2G only.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2
[One (M7) General] jagp3:
details about 64GB DE

Hello guys, I just hope that you can help me with this concern about the 64 GB DE version that I want to buy. I'm interested on 64GB for the storage, I save a lot of music in the phone as my data plans doesn't allow me to stream music, and in addition to photos videos and apps the storage is never enough.

I really need to know what means the special note about the Developer edition where it says.

"Special note about the unlocked bootloader: With an unlocked bootloader, some content on your device may also be invalidated and cannot be accessed anymore because of invalid DRM security keys. This includes content that you may have purchased through a 3rd party vendor and through HTC."

What type of content would be invalidated? Can I get some problems with apps/music or videos with this phone?

Another question that I have is, as long as I am not a ROOT fan and I probably wont be doing root and stuff. Will I receive OTA updates for this phone? can you certify this? I check in other sites that this can not be done because of the unlocked bootloader. Is that true? In that situation what would be the way to keep the phone updated with official images of the OS from HTC?

I really like the phone, actualy is currently in stock on HTC store but I need to clarify these concerns to proceed. 32gb version is out of stock.

Look forward to see your comments.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Grimstang:
Hey everyone, I'm hoping someone can help me out with this or give me a workaround. Even tho it seems like a bad move now but I'm currently using Sprint because of the unlimited data. When I'm at home my data signal is 1 bar 3g and most of the time 1x. Before I switched to Cyanogenmod. I would run a different prl for a short time. But now I can't seem to be able to get into that menu. So what I'm asking is the menu disabled on cyanogenmod roms? And maybe is there a workaround for this?

Thanks guys!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] flastnoles11:
Check the link in my Sig, there is a question and answer in the op on how to do this on aosp.... q#12

SPRINT GS3 FAQ
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] sevenpioverthree:
So if I understand correctly, I download a scriptmanager, then download the GS3 scripts at the bottom of that post and run them as SU?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Grimstang:
Thank you! I'll check it out
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8cpaiw:
It's sad to watch all these new ROM'S and kernel's here knowing you can't have them because u can't unlock your bootloader....

And ROM'S compactible with stock kernel are sometimes(70% of time)slow.

I've realized that now aftee getting motherboard with date number 12W03

Now I know how it feels...to be limited :'(

Don't think I am complaining because I'm not,I just want to bring back a little development for stock kernel to show us,stock kernel users that we are not forgotten.

With this thread I am asking someone of you developers to make really lightweight,smooth ROM.

I know you are busy with developing for nAa or some other kernel but I think that other stock kernel user,will agree with me.

Sorry for your time and thanks for reading this!

Please don't tell that there are already plenty of good ROM'S for stock kernel user because there are not...no offense....I a just saying that most of them are slow and laggy
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gogeta:
GDX ain't slow on stock kernel :):)

I used it though

Except u need some heavy gaming

sent from my BEAST™ W8 Walkman™
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cascabel:
don't forget froyobread. in my opinion one of the -if not the best- froyo rom for x8. stock kernel or not. :)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fotak-x:
froyopro...is the best froyo rom :laugh: ;) :laugh:
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 8cpaiw:
I have forgot that there is gdx...but i don't think its lightweight,and what about battery drain...but thanks for mentioning that :)

hm froyopro.....a lot of users said its lightweight ,fast ,stable and battery drain..well nobody mentioned that

i'll make a review of it when i install it
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CtrlAltDelIrl:
No battery drain on froyopro! Where did you get that ridiculous statement from?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cancar96:
Mimicm 1.0.2 is great and I used it while I was at stock kernel and it was like eclair,fast,smooth,reliable. Definitely try it!
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gogeta:
GDX has battery drain on stock kernel?:confused:

sent from my BEAST™ W8 Walkman™
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eagleeyetom:
Well, stock is ungrateful and painful in development. I don't like to re-stock 50 times, root 50 times, put recovery etc. and still don't know what's going on because logcat doesn't even start. So I wouldn't expect so many ROMs.

And hey, it's 2013 adn X8 was released in 2010 so it's like using Celeron 433 MHz now ;)
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stamatis:
There are already plenty of good ROMs for stock kernel.

You are missing something very important mate, X8 come with eclair 2.1, if you are not satisfied with what devs give you then make sth better or don't complain, nobody cares if you feel limited.

Friendly;)...
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fortun:
Tell that to doixanh, who after trying FroyoPro went back to FroyoBread.

Definitely worth a try. But the latest iterations of GingerDX work great. Probably even better when lots of apps are installed. Tho I didn't tried MiniCM6 with the A2SD script I'm using now.

I don't know what you mean by lightweight. GingerDX is pretty standard when it comes to the apps that come with it. Besides anything you don't like can just be uninstalled using Titanium Backup.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cascabel:
i have to agree. no offense to froyopro users, but froyobread seems to be smoother for me. faster too, imho. haven't tried minicm 1.0.X though.

for gb, i think gdx is good. may be the best stock kernel gb rom right now.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Little Zed:
I know that feel bro.. I know that feel.. But I'm using ShockGen Mod v2 and it's quite fast.. I don't want to use stock rom so I decided to change..
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killerassassin:
Friend i feel your pain...:highfive: but do not worry there are some excellent roms for stock kernel... :fingers-crossed:.

1. PrimeHD... Version 6 ;)

2. GingerDX....any version...:cowboy:

3. Froyobread.....v23::cool:

4. floyo 0.30....:cool::victory:
[HTC One S] Tengis:
Looking for decent rom with wifi calling. I've never cared about wifi calling until now - I just moved to Japan for three years :p. Does the one s work with any Japanese carriers?
[HTC One S] theonlyrealperson:
I can't help you on the Japanese networks, but maybe on the Internet calls.

I use GrooveIP, works great, and seems to be actively developed.

You could also try the built in sip calling with a pbx box and Google voice. Simonics works for n9 users, I know.
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
I have used the Fortuna GPSmart on xda1 using combo cable charger/data, and it is brilliant, extremely accurate, fast to lock on and very tenacious once it gets a lock, I have also tested it with xda2 on bluetooth, in fact I tested it side by side, I had the data cable connected to xda1 and the bluetooth transmitting to xda2 at the same time. I think it is a superb piece of kit, bearing in mind it can also be used standalone as well and can be had on ebay very cheaply, I paid £75 for mine and its one piece of kit that I will be keeping.
[General Accessories] gazzaman2k:
flippin hell lol how come you get these bargains mate lol. my dad paid £152 for his one works like god knows what.

picks up signal within a minute and bluetooth connection isnt one bit slow between that and his ipaq.

downside is battery life is crap :( but i have modified an ipaq car charger to power both things :)

signal is very powerful and accurate go in a tunnel and signal gone..... as soon as your out "blip" goes tomtom and abck upto 7/8 signal locks :)

great value gps receiver even has nice lil case and backlight :)

can be used on pc too via its built in usb port :)

worth getting imho
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
When working as a cabled nmea gps it runs at 38400 speed not the normal 4800 so data transfer is rapid, I bought a lead that powers both xda1 and the gps, if I am using the blutooth the cable can be used to just power the gps.
[General Accessories] jrd31:
Hi

Can someone tell me where i can get a cable to power both my xda ii & the gpsmart at the same time.

Also which setting do you have your gps receiver on, it takes me a while to pick up a signal but when it kicks in it's great.

Thanks

jase
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Got mine from here.

www.globalpositioningsystems.co.uk

I havent tried it with xda2 but if an xda1 charger works with xda2 then so will this.

Their product code A770

Manufacture code fort-xda-cab.

Costs £18.46 including vat and delivery.

I am not sure about the implications of having a cable system and the bluetooth connected at the same time on xda2 but as they use different com ports I dont foresee any clash.

If you are using it as a cabled system choose nmea output at 38400, if using blutooth in tomtom just choose bluetooth in the tomtom gps settings using the wizard as supplied with gps 2.09, there is no need for any bluetooth patch when using that gps version.
[General Accessories] jrd31:
Hi

Sorry i don't think i explained myself. I was looking for a car charger cable that enabled me to power both my xda2 & the gpsmart at the same time.

Cheers

jase
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Yes, it does exactly that, with the added bonus that you can also use it as a cable for gps connection for xda1/xda2 and the fortuna. It powers both.
[General Accessories] gazzaman2k:
if you have a look i think youll find it does poer both at the same time :|
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
yup
[General Accessories] gazzaman2k:
lol posting at the same time :p
[General Accessories] jrd31:
cheers guys. I didn't see the product code at first. It's exactly what i want.

Thanks
[General Accessories] jrd31:
err no looking closely at it, it won't power the GPS it uses a USB style connector for it.

I have the ClipOn Fortuna GPS Device.

Damn!
[General Accessories] gazzaman2k:
we are on about the GPS smart not the clip on thats different all together (cant be used for camping ect...)
[General Accessories] jrd31:
yeah that was my fault, for some reason i thought it was the gps smart but it isn't.

Do you know of a car charger out there that can charge both my xda ii and the gps device?
[General Accessories] cruisin-thru:
JRD, the charger cable I have does in fact have a mini usb cable connecter at the gps end.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] bjl95mustang:
I just upgraded mine and my wife's. for $119.99 each.

I used this on my last upgrades with no issues.

It's not on the homepage but look under sprint phones and they will be there

https://www.wirefly.com/content/mobile-phones/?referringdomain=wiredneirf
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] mang0:
Nice offer! Only thing I'm hesitant about is that they say they will begin shipping on 4/19, versus the carrier(s) saying they will ship earlier and that we should have the phone by 4/19.

Anybody have past experience with Wirefly pre-orders?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] kenshi1023:
Thank you.

In the checkout; it reads "Keep My Existing Plan - Add-on Line", is it adding a new line? or upgrading the current "add-on" line?

don't want to get into a mess of adding a new line... thanks again. good deal.

And also is it normal for online retailer to ask for primary SSN and primary Pin when ordering for phone upgrade/extension?

I usually do it at BestBuy and they only ask for account name and password... :)
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] sprinttouch666:
This is awesome, would jump on it immediately if they had it in black :(
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] kenshi1023:
they do: just change the device and select the stealth black one.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] ScrapSilicon:
wirefly lists black as well for Sprint

<edit> late on posting about black

/wonders if any dev will be working on this device ...
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] mang0:
Doesn't necessarily mean that you won't get your phone super late if you preorder the black, though. :p
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] blane237:
If you ask me I think its more than worth it to save $80 and have to wait an extra day or 2. :D
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] mang0:
Yeah, depends on what kind of user you are though. :p Since I haven't even pre-ordered yet, I think I'm more for the saving money viewpoint as well. :good: