yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
This is probably a stupid question but does this gps app help with 3g on PP
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
No, its just a workaround for GPS issues on various roms.

In a nutshell, the only JB 4.3 rom with working 3g for PP is CM 10.2, and even then, only a handful of nightlies in October.

Liquid is built off the same base, and until 3g is fixed in AOSP & CM, we will not have liquid with working 3g.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Weird question: has anyone using 2.10 been able to get the Google Opinion Rewards app to work? I take the initial 'no credit' survey and it always tells me that it's had a problem recording my answers but that it'll try again later. I've never received a single real survey. I've wiped the app's data and tried again multiple times. I've even wiped data, uninstalled and reinstalled. Still nothing.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Anyone have comments about 2.37?

Does anyone have commentary on 2.37? I am still on 2.10 and I'm starting to experience very frequent issues (detailed below).

MMS isues - MMS frequently stop working (incoming or outgoing). There's no way to tell when it's happened unless I try sending one. To temporarily fix the issue for a very short time, I have wipe cache and dalvik cache and reboot.

Radios - The radios seem to go in and out sometimes (not too often, though). SMS and calls won't get through to me now and then. Needs a reboot to resolve.

Instagram - I don't think the framework plays nicely with Instagram front facing camera video. As soon as I try to switch it to front facing video capture in the Instagram app, I get a force close. Nothing resolves this.

MX Player - If I have MX Player intercept a streaming video from the browser, it usually works, however sometimes it just gets really slow, refuses to load and MX Player simply stops working. Only a reboot fixes this. (Force closing the browser, MX Player and wipinig both apps caches doesn't work.

Bootup weirdness - The liquid boot animation plays for longer than I would expect. It then says "starting apps" or "updating apps" or something and clocks for a second. Often, it will act like it crashes after a few seconds and the liquid boot animation will play again. After this is does the "updating apps" thing again and then it continues and boots up normally.

Obviously the most troubling issues are the radio, sms and mms ones. I need to be able to rely on my phone, and right now, I can't.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] gordo80:
Where can I download 3.11 from?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Here's the home of SafeStrap: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/

and here are the versions that work with the Bionic: http://goo.im/devs/Hashcode/targa/safestrap

EDIT: They also host links right on that site: http://blog.hash-of-codes.com/downloads/safestrap/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] voodoodaddy:
Can someone tell me exactly what this rom is from this link? Its named Liquid-JB-v2.37-official-targa.

http://www.drdevs.com/devs/teamliqui...CIAL-targa.zip
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Meaning what version of Android? If so it's 4.3

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] voodoodaddy:
No, meaning whats the difference between this and LiquidSmooth 2.9, 2.10. etc
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
2.9 was still 4.2.2 so basically everything works. The rest were all attempts, good ones, at 4.3 but still have the 3g problem.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
I'm still on v2.10 and I'm running into the MMS issues (known problem, I believe) and slowdowns. Do you have any recommendations about a better ROM or should I just go back to stock?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] arana1:
i use aokp 4.2 latest nigthly (jb-mr1)no issues at all.

i tried cm 19 (4.3) and saw no issues with 3g or mms, but maybe because i am using it as a GSM phone?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
At this point CM11 12-16 has become my daily. 3g is fixed and I don't think I've had a better experience since 10.1.3 honestly, it's amazing how fast 4.4 got really good.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] arana1:
how is this you daily if its been out for less than 24 hours? :S
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Actually, that's a good question. Are we missing something? I feel like we are.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
I meant I've been on cm11 for a couple weeks or whatever it's been out. Just dirty flashing and still no problems with the new nightly is more what I meant. I've had 3g all along but a lot of people didn't until yesterday. So that was one of the last hurdles.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
Anyone try to flash Liquid 3.0beta?

I'm getting error flashing on a new rom slot with ss2.6.31.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] milski65:
Did you post that ss version correct? If so I've never heard of that version. Minimum is 3.11 3.65 did not work on 2.37.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
Sorry that's the TWRP version (2.6.3.1) which is from latest SS 3.65.

Edit: I downgraded to 3.11 and was able to install 3.0beta fine. Using DH's KK Gapps.

thanx for your help milski
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Anyone know the AOSP base date for 3.0? Wondering if it includes 3g fix
[Motorola Droid Bionic] arana1:
you mean this rom? its 4.2 3g should work fine, i am using aokp 4.2.2 latest nigthly and no problems whatsoever with anything (im using on a gsm network)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
Actually 3.0 beta is 4.4.2 base. Not sure the build date but here is official post of features:

https://plus.google.com/102153960718796996774/posts/5yiUj69KzJe
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Sorry, dont think i explained that well.

What I am wondering is what date the AOSP base was used to build liquid 3.0 beta..which is 4.4, right? There was a specific 3g fix on 12/16 merged into AOSP/CM. I dont want to downgrade safeatrap just to find out liquid was built on an earlier base
[Motorola Droid Bionic] arana1:
oh i see, i wouldnt download for any reason, specially with 3 roms installed lol, i would rather wait for a next build so that this rom fixes that, and not the other way (previous versions work on latest safestrap, so its something they did lately). hmm maybe they included some code that is for a slot 1 rom mixed with some for rom slot 2 (like cm and aokp) without doing proper modifications, that would for sure mess things.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Figured out it is based on previous nights AOSP. 3g works.

And...it installed fine on SS 3.65. No need to downgrade.

Also, works in any slot including stock.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
Where is this?

goo.im only has up to 2.10
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
Here: http://www.drdevs.com/devs/teamliquid/official/Test/
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Gotta say, 3.0 beta is impressive. Miss the voice+ integration in CM, but think this will be my daily.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
And is it me, or is battery life significantly better in LS 3.0 than regular CM11? Not just stats, but actual consumption/usage time.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
I can't get this to install

I have tried two different downloads both failed to install... I'm using 3.65 is that my problem and I think I tried two different slots... is the camera working? is there 3g?

Should this be a new thread
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
I had to downgrade SS to 3.11

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
3.65 install worked for me on stock slot. 3g and camera working.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Isn't it a bit risky installing on the stock slot? Are there any notable benefits?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
I'm getting great battery life compared cm11. main problem is volume FC so I can't unlink the notification. It's loud as heck. 3rd party app can't lower it.

holo not fully integrated. hopefully we get updates.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Not sure flashing stock slot is any more risky than anything else we do :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] SyCoREAPER:
TWRP or CWM I assume? Thought SS grays/reds out the Stock slot from being modified.

I use to be a huge LS advocate (for a longgg time) but to be honest, I just recently saw the KitKat was available as an experimental build and the stability, speed and functionality of CM is far superior to LS. Sure CM doesn't have quite the customization that LS has and I won't pretend like I don't miss it, but overall not enough to justify me going back.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] voodoodaddy:
Can someone help me out? I was running 2.4 for a long time. Over the last few months its gotten buggy and stuff and Ive been wanting to wipe and install a newer version. Well this morning my phone randomly rebooted, and after a LONG time it finally came up and I got an error message about something being unstable and I should restore the system. After that I noticed some of my things had been deleted (notes, data from other apps), so I decided I might as well just wipe and install.

Ive tried to install 2.9, it just stuck in a bootloop for 30 min. Pulled the battery, same thing. Im presently trying to install 2.7 and it appears Im having the same issue, its been 15min on the liquidsmooth boot animation. Im on SS 3.11, slot 3. When I install I factory restore, wipe the system, wipe cache, wipe dalvik, IDK what else to do. Ive even tried it both ways, with gapps and without gapps.

My stock side is almost unusable, sooooo slow and buggy. Help

edit: at present I have deleted the slot and recreating it before I try to install

edit 2: after deleting the slot I had and recreating, installed 2.9 and it took right away.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Yep that's what I was going to say was bad slot. I've had some really weird things that don't fix until I recreate the slot.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
It is red to warn you, but will still wipe normally and allow installation. Using stock slot seems to be a matter of some controversy... For me it is as simple as needing the extra 4 gigs of storage (2 gained by using stock slot and 2 by deleting slot 1).

As for LS, I am finding the beta to be more stable than straight CM. Seems just as fast. Battery is drastically better, especially screen off/idle time. Everything works... Only thing that crashes regularly is this darn XDA app! :)
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
What gapps package are you guys using with the 3.0 beta?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
I'm using DH's 12/08 gapps. No problems with them. But you can use any 4.4 gapps.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Thanks! Any info about exactly what DH's gapps package includes? I'd like to know if it differs from these ones significantly.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] B.E.McAllister:
Edit
[Motorola Droid Bionic] SyCoREAPER:
Mind PM'ing me. Don't want to thread jack.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Anyone?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
This is what I use:

http://androidhosting.org/Devs/Dhacker29/omap4/gapps-kk-20131208-no_set_metadata.zip

But if you use ART it won't work because these are 4.4.1 I also flash a 4.4.2 standard over it too.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Thanks Eiht! I take it you don't run ART?

Also, just to clarify, you flash two GAPPS packages, correct? The way I'm reading it, you flash the DHacker package and then a separate 4.4.2 package after that? Do you recall which 4.4.2 package you use? I assume probably one of these three:

1) [GAPPS][4.4.x] Unofficial GApps [12-Dec-2013]

2) [GApps][4.4.2][12-16-2013]

3) [GAPPS][4.4.x/4.3.x] OFFICIAL 0-Day PA-GOOGLE APPS (All ROM's) [2013-12-30]

Yes?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
I use the third ones. And check for updates regularly. Art is working for me on cm and gummy, but not liquid.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Yes I use the Dhacker29 1208 then these after

http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23269279319195955

Reason why was to run ART and the second set are for 4.4.2 but didn't have calendar and Gmail so I was using the first one for those and second one to get the stuff that FC's with ART up to 4.4.2 if that makes sense. I quit using ART because I use Pandora and it FC's. I'll give that # 3 package a try though.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Thanks guys! Eiht, that makes perfect sense. Looks like I'm skipping ART for now (I use Pandora too much).
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
It might be fixed but I haven't tried it for a while because ART takes so long to cache.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
CM11 snapshot seems solid. I really like LS3 features better but it's not as stable for me. I get FC's changing wallpaper, and a few random reboots that I haven't had on CM. I hope this gets a bump to base off the snapshot, the only thing better would be if started getting Carbon again for targa based on 4.4.2.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Sorry for the [probably] dumb question, but what is 'snapshot'?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
It's the 0104 CM. The snapshot releases are usually, except cm10.2, nearly stable. Pretty daily driver type material for most people. In cm I think they are sort of a beta or step above before they make RC(release candidate) then stable. It didn't show up for me in the built-in updater, I had to grab it direct but putting it in the cmupdater folder the updater saw it and let me update without doing it manually.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Technically, the milestone, or "snapshot" is just the prior nightly repackaged with a different name...not a special build. In other words, M2 is identical to the 01/03 nightly, hence they don't push it to the built-in as an "update" when the only change is the build name.

Some devices have LS3 up to 01/02... development is still active, hopefully targa gets an update in the next week or two.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
That seems to make sense except that the M2 is about 1mb bigger than 0103, not that it's a lot but I'd assume something changed.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
I just switched back to ART again and it looks like Pandora 5.1 fixed the FC issue. I never tested it till now so the only other hangup is greenify which I've recently stopped using because I was failing to really see the benefits anymore. Just to clarify you can still use it but can't use the donation features that needed xposed framework to work.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
Download site is down.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
They restructured the directories... under /official/beta1/

http://www.drdevs.com/devs/?dir=teamliquid

There is a "beta2" directory, but no targa build yet.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
It was like that when the first v3 surfaced, there were only a similar amount as beta 2 has then targa showed up. Hopefully that happens this time too. I love LS3 if it was just a little more stable like cm11 it would be amazing.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Here are some [likely useless, but potentially encouraging] stats.

Beta 1 release dates:

12/18 - released for 2 devices

12/20 - released for 2 more devices

12/25 - released for 9 more devices

12/26 - released for 10 more devices including the Bionic

Beta 2 release dates:

01/07 - released for 3 devices

01/08 - released for 9 more devices

01/09 (today) - released for 3 more devices (so far)

Looks like they're ahead of schedule (compared to the previous release).

EDIT: Do we know if they switched to the more stable "CM snapshot" base with this release?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] B.E.McAllister:
I loved this rom and have definitely tried to use it as my daily but unfortunately I use my phone as my alarm and it does some crazy things when plugged in.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] shawnn125:
Try to disable battery animation - might fix the problem.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
They added beta 2 for spyder today. Maybe we're not far behind.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
aren't they almost identical devices
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
That's exactly what I was hoping too.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] B.E.McAllister:
Never thought of this, makes sense. Might wait to see if we get beta 2 before trying it though. Thanks
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cpspecial:
I've gotta say. In blown away by this initial builds of 3.0. It exceeds my expectations and I have no need for stock anymore.

A couple things I've encountered:

Swiping down and trying to reply to a text, nothing happens.

Mobile hotspot won't connect and likewise, other devices cannot connect to the phone.

Other than that, this build floors me. Hard to imagine getting much better.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
I'm not sure what you mean with the text thing but tether has been broken for most of us. A couple people have it working with 3rd party apps but it's not a deal breaker for me thankfully. CM11 seems a little more refined to me but only because it's been getting consistent nightlies. I'm very anxious for beta 2 though because the older 4.3 releases, 2.10 especially, were exceptional despite lack of 3g(known problem back then).

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cpspecial:
Sorry I didn't clarify very much. When I receive a text and I swipe down to check it quickly, you have the option to reply or read. When I select reply, nothing happens and I stay on my current screen.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Oh in the notification bar, I'm on cm11 and it works fine but only if I use the regular messaging app. If I use hangout it doesn't give those options. I use dynamic notifications so I don't use the notification bar much for text and most regular phone type notifications so I wasn't understanding at first.

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[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
not yet

four ROMs today but not our Targa
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Yea I saw that. I actually installed a site monitor app to let me know if that page changes. Yes I'm that hopeful that it will be an excellent rom.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Heh, I've been checking hourly myself... How hard is it to install a site monitor? Anyway, they added another one (not ours) about 20 minutes ago. I'm hopeful that we'll see the targa release before the end of the day. If not today, probably tomorrow. Obviously I have no inside info, I'm just basing that on the time stamps from the previous version release.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
It's easy. It's just an app from the store. There are a bunch of them. You just paste the address into it and it tells you if that page changes.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
Man. 5 new ROMs yesterday and none today. I hope I still looking in the right place. WiFi fix works on cm and gummy, can't wait for new liquid to try it on that too.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Looks like we got skipped on Beta 2 - there's already a Beta 3 folder and the release for Hammerhead is already up. :(

Hope we get Beta 3.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
6 new beta 2s today. All d2 variations. I can't tell what device its for on my phone till I actually start downloading it. I can on my laptop, but I'm on the road.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
Beta 3 has xt 926. Maybe omaps are gonna get some love.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
3 more

I'm starting to lose hope
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
Don't worry. Seems like we haven't been totally abandoned. Bionic is too good a phone.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
just saw this...

posted on their facebook page yesterday

All device's that we supported in Jellybean, we will support in Kitkat. You do not need to worry about it and continually ask if x device will be supported in kitkat.

good news!!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
There IS activity!

on the drdevs site but nothing for us yet.... it looks like they are in the process of moving the folders around... I did however see some 1/18 roms but not ours
[Motorola Droid Bionic] KC69:
5 more new beta 3 today. Mb887 last so another omap is a good sign.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
11:55 am

Download is up
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Score! Thanks for letting us know!
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
is any slot okay?

and can we install this with ss3.11
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
If it's like previous it has to be 3.11 but any slot.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
3.65 wont work?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Didn't used to. I hope they changed it but I doubt it. What I do is downgrade to 3.11, install, backup, move the backup into that 0000000000 folder for 3.65 then if you swap roms you can just restore LS from 3.65. Then upgrade back to 3.65 or if you love LS just stay on 3.11 because you have to downgrade each time to dirty flash each new version.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
Trying to find 3.11 since the download isnt working on Goo

Edit. Nevermind. Working now

---------- Post added at 07:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:45 PM ----------

What is the correct process to downgrade so I dont lose anything?

EDIT: What a pain. Short story, I messed up but luckily backed up my safestrap folder. Had to root all over again. Poo. lol. Oh well. Gonna try this out now
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
All I do is switch to stock, in SS uninstall recovery, uninstall SS, install SS311, install recovery, if you stick with 311 move your backups to the root of the backup folder so 3.11 can see them. Reboot and reverse the process to get back.

Sent from my Bionic
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
Thanks. Sounds easy. Wish I had patience. haha
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
MMS?

Anyone on PagePlus getting MMS?

I get perfect MMS on 2.9 but haven't got it on 3.0 yet but it could be just my phone

tried a different slot and it worked...
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
Anyone else getting their phone constantly changing screens from settings to desktop to lockscreen and such? How can I stop it since it wont stop long enough to change any setting to figure out what happened?
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
Never heard of that happening. Maybe reboot and wipe cache? Did you just install the new beta 3 release? If so, did you 'dirty flash' it? Maybe you need to do a clean flash or even delete and recreate the slot you're using.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
Just tried the reboot and wiped cache and dalvik with same result. It happened when I was changing settings. I believe it happen when I was turning on active display

Edit. Rebooted again and as soon as finished booting, went back to setting and turned of Liquid Blackout and set vibration multiplier back to 1.0 and no more problem. Strange

Edit. Crap, just started again.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cognitivedissonance:
I haven't flashed the new version yet, so I'm not sure if it's just you or what. May need to try more involved troubleshooting like wiping the slot and trying over or even deleting the slot and starting with a new one.

Also, just an FYI for everyone, it looks like liquid uploaded a gapps package today. One would assume that they probably tweaked it to work best with their ROM. :)

http://www.drdevs.com/devs/?dir=teamliquid notice the Gapps folder. Here's the direct download link: http://www.drdevs.com/devs/teamliquid/Gapps/Liquid-Kitkat-4.4.2-FULL-gapps.zip
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cookme74:
Having same issue with screen switching. Keeps going to lock screen when charger plugged in. Clean install on new slot.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] lancelinksp:
This time it happened directly after changing to circle battery and turning on animation. Stopped by changing to different battery style
[Motorola Droid Bionic] cookme74:
OK reflashed with these gapps and seems ok so far

http://www.drdevs.com/devs/?dir=teamliquid/Gapps
[Motorola Droid Bionic] uconnpat:
notification toggles

Notification Toggles did they get left behind or am I missing the setting
[Motorola Droid Bionic] mightysween:
Installs fine with safe strap 3.65 (so did prior builds)

Circle battery animation glitch was carried over from last version too.
[Motorola Droid Bionic] Eiht:
Did you do anything special? I tried 3.65 again just to be sure and got a red Fail. Downgraded and it flashed fine.

Sent from my Bionic