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[AT&T HTC One (M7)] bosotros:
I felt the same and intended to get the dev edition until I found out att didn't change any features. The full set of international/stock HTC features will be on the att version, even the FM radio. There will be a way to remove all the att bloat, if not out of the box then soon. So I upgraded which saved me $350 plus I got the free media link thingy. It's been a good day...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] kirdroid:
If you want to keep sense I bet Dev edition will get updates first and the carrier version will take forever because of carrier testing. Also carries suck so Dev edition for me since I want the original one with HTC packing and everything. I don't want the carrier molested version :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] crawlgsx:
Multiple rumors say Dev Edition will be silver only. Sucks, I refuse to buy the silver one, I absolutely hate silver. If it was white/red/black/blue I'd be all over it.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] firespitta:
So whats the difference with the dev edition ? What can you do with it? And what type of network can you get with it?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
I just pre-ordered a 64GB dev edition from HTC for $649. Free shipping and a free case for being an "early adopter" too!

The dev edition is the same as the AT&T version (including support for AT&T LTE), but with these additional benefits:

1) SIM unlocked: You can use it on AT&T or T-Mobile without having to get it unlocked.

2) Unlocked bootloader: You can freely flash custom ROMs and kernels without having to wait for a crazy hack.

3) No AT&T apps pre-installed.

4) Official updates will likely be available sooner because they won't require carrier approval from AT&T.

If you aren't eligible for the $200-$300 upgrade pricing from AT&T, I highly recommend springing for the dev edition.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] cygnet17:
US $574.00 from HTC (32gb), Total with 2 day shipping $583.94 (No Tax is Charged) and there is a coupon for a free official HTC case if you signed up for a pre order notification. Also you can get $100 mail in rebate from HTC for your old phone. Sounds like a great deal for a 32gb Unlocked phone with no carrier logo or bloatware
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
If we bought the Dev Edition, would we be flashing AT&T roms?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
You could if you want, but international edition ROMs should work as well because all HTC Ones are virtually identical apart from the radio and carrier branding.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
I know this is my thread originally, but I have a "dumb" question.

Presumably one will be able to bootloader unlock the AT&T version of the HTC One via htcdev.com. One will also no doubt be able to SIM unlock the AT&T version as well. At that point, would the AT&T version not be identical, from a custom rom-ability perspective, to the Developer edition? It's not clear to me that the Developer edition will be s-off - that would be the only further advantage.

If the above is correct, then wouldn't it be true that any ROM that can be loaded on the developer version could at that point be loaded onto the AT&T version?

Am I missing something? Otherwise, there's basically no difference between the AT&T version and the Developer version other than the way they are delivered out of the box (but the AT&T version can easily be brought to the same state as the developer version).

Obviously there are considerations for AT&T version as being offered with a subsidy, the hassle of bootloader unlocker (nothing much, really) and SIM unlock (easy once the databases are updated). I presume the Developer version will always be warranted by HTC directly whereas if you BL unlock an AT&T version, warranty is out the window.

Anything else?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
I doubt you will be able to unlock the AT&T version bootloader via htcdev.com. You couldn't with the AT&T One X because AT&T asked HTC not to allow it. And from my experience, AT&T doesn't like to SIM unlock phones for you either. Even past that, the unlocked and developer editions will come without AT&T logos on the phone (which you can never get rid of) and without AT&T bloatware in the ROM.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
Just did this :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
Um, I have an HTC One X+ from AT&T that is bootloader and SIM unlocked. So, would not assume AT&T One cannot be bootloader unlocked. In fact, I assume it will be. I don't even run this device on AT&T 98% of the time as I live in Canada.

Also, you mention the AT&T bloatware. The point is that if you can bootloader unlock and root, you can flash whatever ROM you want, and/or install Titanium Backup and freeze/delete the bloat. This is what I did with my HOX+.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] randy_c:
Just pre-order my FIRST HTC phone. Can't wait
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] expertzero1:
I was wondering this!

Thanks
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
I didn't say it can't be. Just that you won't be able to do it officially from HTCdev.com. A hack will be required.

And why go through all that hassle if the dev and unlocked editions are the same price or cheaper than the AT&T versions without upgrade pricing?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
Also of note, the unlocked 32GB version directly from HTC has almost all of the same benefits as the 64GB developer edition, and it's only $575. Cheaper than the $600 AT&T will charge you for their branded 32GB One.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
I dunno why you insist it will not be possible via htcdev.com. I specifically told you I was able to do it with my HOX+ from AT&T, no hack.

In my case, I cannot order a dev version as I am Canadian. I can make my way to an AT&T store across the border. My point was really that your assumptions that the dev version are automatically more customizable are incorrect. Sure, if I could get my hands on a dev version for the same price I would, just saying that those getting at AT&T version will not necessarily be penalized from bootloader/custom ROM perspective.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] expertzero1:
ATT one x was locked down. needed a hack to unlock it via HTC dev
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Acetherockr:
The 32GB Unlocked Version is $574 directly from HTC, it supports At&t's LTE network, and no bloatware!! :D
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] nugzo:
you are right, the X+ is unlockable, but the FLAGSHIP phone from last year (X) is not. If you weren't part of the OG X crowd you probably aren't familiar with how hard it was to get it rooted. It was a major issue. There were a LOT of people who jumped on the ATT one x just to get rid of it as soon as the gs3 was released. As of today the original ATT One X is still NOT unlockable through HTC dev without first changing the CID. I canceled my pre-order because of this. I just dont want to take any chances. The fact is nobody knows till someone gets their hands on an HTC phone. ATT is notorious for this. Not sure why they let us unlock the One X+. There was plenty of ATT bashing on facebook, twitter as well as many petitions for unlock, didnt work. Here's an article..

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/4/3000175/at-t-htc-one-x-bootloader-official-unlock

EDIT: there are a few people saying that the reason HTC released the DEV edition is because ATT One was going to be locked. Not sure where they got their info but i dont want to take any chances. Square trade for insurance and i have my x+ to fall back on.

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A lot of people have pre ordered already. many threads concerning just that. :victory:
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
^ So how about you wait until we know whether the AT&T version will have an unlockable BL (my bet - it will) before saying it doesn't?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] chivamex10:
I'm not a developer but i am buying the phone outright. What is the advantage of getting the dev version of this phone? Spec wise will it outperform the at&t version?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] americasteam:
No, its the same hardware. It's sim unlocked, the bootloader is unlocked, and you won't have to wait the normal 6-8 months after HTC has submitted the software for AT&T to approve and rollout updates. If your buying outright, its a no brainer.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] droidiac13:
I agree.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
Well, I owned an original AT&T One X and we weren't able to officially unlock the bootloader via HTCdev.com. We had to use a rather tedious hack that tricked HTCdev.com into thinking we had an international One X so that it would allow the unlock, but the first software update patched that hack and those who bought the phone with that version of the software already preloaded were screwed. Not sure how it ended up, but for a while they had no way of unlocking their bootloader.

And I don't think the dev edition is more customizable. I just think you'll have a lot less headaches and jumping through hoops with it than with an AT&T version. With an unlocked or dev edition, you're guaranteed an easy bootloader unlock, and you won't have to root or flash a custom ROM just to get rid of AT&T's garbage apps. Plus, you won't have to root and ROM to get the latest updates from HTC. The unlocked and dev editions will get updates straight from HTC without having to do a thing. The updates for the AT&T version will be delayed to high hell and back by AT&T.

In your circumstance, I understand why you have to get an AT&T version. And you'll probably be able to get everything out of yours that you could out of a dev edition, but with a lot more work. But for the love of all that is right in the world, if you live in the US and have the option to get an unlocked or dev edition for the same price as the AT&T version, do it!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
^ I guess you just can't get over the AT&T HOX, but that was a year ago. The device released more recently (in November) had no such issues. Your comments around:

And I don't think the dev edition is more customizable. I just think you'll have a lot less headaches and jumping through hoops with it than with an AT&T version. With an unlocked or dev edition, you're guaranteed an easy bootloader unlock, and you won't have to root or flash a custom ROM just to get rid of AT&T's garbage apps. Plus, you won't have to root and ROM to get the latest updates from HTC. The unlocked and dev editions will get updates straight from HTC without having to do a thing. The updates for the AT&T version will be delayed to high hell and back by AT&T.

are not accurate at all for the HOX+, and we just don't know if this will be the case for the AT&T version.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
How is it not accurate? The AT&T HOX+ comes with AT&T apps and an AT&T logo on it, doesn't it? Its updates have to be approved by AT&T, don't they? If you want to change either of those things, you have to fool with it, don't you? If you had the option to buy the unlocked or dev edition for the same price or cheaper, are you saying you would choose the AT&T version? Why?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
^ Once you've bootloader unlocked the HOX+, you can apply any compatible ROM to it. I don't wait for any AT&T updates. The BL unlock process took maybe 3 minutes. For example, AT&T version of the JB ROM for HOX+ has a bad BT Audio bug, running a custom ROM I have no such issue. Not even sure AT&T has ever released a ROM that fixes it.

If the AT&T HTC One has an unlockable BL, my view is that you will be able to apply any update released for the dev version (including custom ROM's) to the AT&T HTC One.

I would just avoid making statements until we know the bootloader situation on the AT&T version, which will be next week. ]
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
Well, we'll know soon.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Sango2:
I personally, didn't know they were going to tell a unlocked version until my friend mentioned about HTC One unlocked and it was available directly from their site since I had my eyes set on S4 going with international he mentioned it. I per-ordered the developer edition from Htc.

Main reason I go with factory unlocked and unbranded is because a fan of locking, carrier branding etc; and the same goes with my friends... Plus it's got a better resale value and buyer potential if one is planning to sell it in the future vs selling a branded / locked one.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] alus415:
I want the T mobile version off contract, this means they will unlock it and thus in my opinion better for those like me that want all the Tmobile/AT&T bands (better resell value?) . This to me will make it better than the unlocked version , only drawback? Update will be slower. And can't buy lost/theft insurance.

I'm an ATT customer and still have 14 months left on my contract and if i can't get the Tmo version (I will use that on Tmo once my contract is up ) then the ATT version is better for me as it will be the only one that I can buy insurance since I'm buying it from ATT. You can buy squaretrade insurance on the unlocked version but does not cover lost or stolen.

I wished the unlocked version came with the Tmobile bands , this would have made everything easier for all of us.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
I might go ahead and get the AT&T version if my Dev Edition is seriously delayed. It is showing 4/24 right now -_-
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] bosotros:
There's been no word from AT&T to change anything, it should still ship on the 16th. Problem is, that may only apply to preorders done by some previous date, like the 8th or something. There is obviously another batch of phones set to land right after the first but it could take a week to get them through the system. The 24th may be a realistic date from AT&T also.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Sango2:
I would just say go ahead and order the Dev edition and wait so you get what you want. Just to have to wait; in the meantime you can use your existing phone, just like me.

I can't wait to sell my S3 once this phone arrives; patience is a virtue.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] hexproject:
So is Dev edition same as international edition where lte works on att bands?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] bosotros:
The Dev edition has all the AT&T bands, including their LTE. International doesn't have all the AT&T LTE bands.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] droidiac13:
This is the reason I pre-ordered both Developer Edition and have one waiting for me at my local AT&T store. Once they are allowed to sell them. The manager at the store I go to is already using the One. I'll sell one of them after I have them both in hand.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mickliq:
Well, the AT&T version has been CONFIRMED as bootloader unlockable :)
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Bigjim1488:
550 and 650 would have been the better price points. At least it's half right.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] t4t3r:
A somewhat local store has been selling them since yesterday but they refuse to sell at full price, upgrades only :(
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] droidiac13:
Go in, open a line and then cancel the line.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
It seems AT&T sales Reps make nothing on phone sales. The commissions come from contract renewals.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Sango2:
From what I was told from a AT&T rep and from enterprise customer service is that, they generally do not the phone outright for the first 6 (or was it 3, I forgot) months to give upgrades/contract priority.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
I pre-ordered from AT&T website and paid full price..

The order went through just fine, my card charged for the full amount and emails received saying the order has went to the warehouse for fulfillment and that the order can't be cancelled...

Also this thread is funny how people say the off contract price it to high.. Really??

When I saw the off contract price the 1st thing I though was "wow, that's cheap"..

Look at any other top device with 32GB and compare prices.

HTC One = $599

iPhone 5 = $749

Galaxy S3 = $599

Galaxy S4 = In the mid $700 range for 32GB is my guess.

Like I said, I expected the full price to higher so seeing people complain that the $599 price is to high kind of made me giggle a little...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
Just placed my order with AT&T!!!

$705.01 after tax for 64GB off-contract.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] LuRock:
Wow you must be really impressed with the ONE to cough up that amount:rolleyes:

I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
I'm a freshman in high school too. :)

#webdesign
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] LuRock:
What!!! Can I be your brother?:D

I'm not an addict I just flash a lot.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] droidiac13:
LMAO!!

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Why not the Developer Edition?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Toaster Strudels:
Bad things about the Dev Edition:

1. No real warranty.. lol

2. LTE is only on 1 band, might be mistaken but that's what the spec sheets say.

3. Dev Edition will only come on Friday, my AT&T One will be here on Wednesday

4. Can't hang out in these parts of the forums sometimes XD

It was only a $50 price hike due to tax. I can pay that off by selling the MediaLink accessory it comes with.

I spoil myself.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] realpg:
no contract...
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
I never buy phones on contract..

Warranty exchanges is the reason I never buy international versions or in this case the reason I didn't buy the developer version.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] CocheseUGA:
So you forfeit the advantage of a huge discount just for the ability to jump ship at any given time?
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] :
Yes. He's not the only one. I haven't used an upgrade in, at least, 6 years. The ability to cut and run is worth it to me AND I own the device outright so I can do whatever the hell I want with it.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] TooCrzy:
Paid full price for mine too. I will never sign another contract!!
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] CocheseUGA:
I don't fault you for thinking like that, but it's also like paying the ETF each time you get a new phone.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
No, the dev edition supports all LTE bands for both AT&T and T-Mo. You must be looking at the wrong spec sheet.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gtg465x:
Also, there is a warranty on the dev edition. This isn't like importing an international phone, in which case HTC USA wouldn't honor the warranty because the phone wasn't sold by HTC USA. Since it's sold here in the States by HTC USA, you get a warranty.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
Advantage of a contract???????????????????

I always pay full price for a few reasons

A) Freedom of not having a contract. I can bolt anytime I please.

B) I can sell the phone and "upgrade" any time I please.

I just sold my factory unlocked 16GB iPhone 5 for $540 to purchase the HTC One. By my math I just got an upgrade to the One for $60.. I didn't have to wait 2 years for my contract to be up nor did I pay AT&T $200 for the "privilege" of signing another 2-year contract just to get the phone.

I can sell this when the time comes for a nice price and upgrade again if I choose anytime I please and generally for less than the $200 AT&T would charge me and I have no contract..

I have never kept a phone for more than 7 or 8 months..

Paying full price for a phone only hurts the wallet once. After that and assuming you keep the deice in great shape, it's actually cheaper to upgrade phones this way and you can upgrade whenever you want..

My .02
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] gunnyman:
This is me also. I play Craigslist like a day trader
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] CocheseUGA:
I suppose since I'm happy with my service and my cost, I don't care that I'm in contract. Since I have another line I use upgrades on, I get to do so each year at the reduced rate.

I bought the S3 for $150, I should be able resell it for $300 should I choose to. It's not a bad way to go.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] mgxplyr:
Wouldn't the phone come out cheaper if you pay the ETF?

16GB: $199 + $350 = $549.

The phone has and will have an unlockable bootloader, and AT&T will SIM-unlock after a while, so it's not really worth the $50 compared to saving hundreds of dollars.

And that $350 is pro-rated, so you would pay even less as time goes on.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] CocheseUGA:
That's been my experience, but obviously if you're a phone addict and sell relatively quickly after release buying at full price may work better. I keep my devices longer.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] raqball:
Don't forget that you have to add a line to get the contract price and pay the $35 activation fee.. That makes it $585

Not really worth $15 to have my credit checked (every credit check lowers your score) and then have to deal with more phone calls or visits to AT&T to cancel the line and pay the ETF.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] Mdubvr6:
wow

good price
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] 05GT:
64GB is a steal @ $649. I just hope the stores have them on release day.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] droidiac13:
Funny thing is, strudel posted in another thread that he has now canceled his AT&T order and ordered a develop edition. LOL
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] expertzero1:
adding a line and paying a etf fee is just a terrible idea.

Like someone said above, it lowers your credit score if you add a line.

Basically the etf fee pretty much covers pays for the device if you pay for the upgarde fee.

If your planning to purchase the att version out of contract, its best to purchase from htc directly. From a resale standpoint, it will bring in some extra bucks later compared to the carrier versions.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vanboy:
I have a Galaxy Nexus with 1. Android version 4.2.1, 2. Baseband Version I9250UGLL1, 3. Kernel Version 3.0.31-gd5a18e0 4. Build Number JOP40D.19250UGMA2 and all I want to do with the new Android Version is be able to WiFi tether and talk on the phone like I used to be able to do. Right now, when I answer the phone or make a call, I loose my WiFi tether. Will the new Android Version 4.2.2 fix this problem.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Amfibius:
I have searched the forums for "Caller2Picture" but have come up with nothing. So here goes ...

I have the i-mate version of the HTC Himalaya with ROM v1.52.00WWE. I have installed the gitex update. I bought my phone from Telstra Australia, which has added some customized software which replaces the photo in the default IA Caller ID program with the Telstra logo!

I downloaded a trial version of Caller2Picture. I installed it in the default directory, then copied all my pictures into the Caller2Picture\Pictures directory. I then set up a ring and called myself with my spare mobile phone.

This is what I found:

1. Caller2Picture slows down my i-mate TREMENDOUSLY. Doing anything introduces an unacceptably long delay. If I try to open any application, I will be staring at the hourglass for about 10-15 seconds before anything happens.

2. When I get an incoming phone call, the picture will appear as is supposed to. However, there is no name assigned to the number, so I see the number (and the picture) only!

Because I cannot live with the above two bugs, I deleted the application from my i-mate. I am still VERY frustrated that I am unable to get Picture Caller ID to work on my expensive PDA/phone!

Has anyone else encountered the same problem - or better still developed a workaround?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 General] Qman:
That program as been nothing but trouble with WM2003, I think you'll

better luck with:

Pic&Ring ($10.00)

http://www.xda.com.cn/E/index.htm

The application enables you to personalize the incoming call ring-tone and picture according to different callers.

HTH
[8.9" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] lizzord30:
Looking for a couple people to test out my rom, the Rom is a stock modified type rom nothing special based on 8.3.0 But with out amazon launcher with a few extra google apps including google play. Mostly just a backup rom so I can flash if I need to reflash :D But maybe some people will like it!

Must have TWRP working and now how to fix your tablet if its bricked!!!!

Edit: PM me for link!!
[8.9" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] tufeijoe:
Put your rom here is btter instead of contact one by one
[8.9" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] lizzord30:
Ok ill upload my newest rom then post it! But it needs to do a few things to get it working well. and will take a while to upload so maybe late tonight will have a link up!
[8.9" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] lizzord30:
Other post is up Mods please delete this post!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks you :D