yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LoLaTiOn:
MIUI ROM 3.5.3 SOON Scheduled for tomorrow if I find time I'll let you know

Changelog MIUI

Recommended updates this week

New - Added support for SMS private sync

[System]

Fix - Deformation issue with magnifying glass function

Fix - Screenshot rendering problems

[Contacts]

New - Call records support the "New contact" filter

[Messaging]

New - Added support for SMS private sync

New - Add Mms copy to storage space function

Fix - In some cases FC errors

Fix - Issue with empty search results

Fix - Content of messages containing known contact number, the number is not recognised

[Themes]

New - Add new push file function

Optimisation - Resources list page thumbnail style adjusted to rounded rectangle

[Camera]

Fix - Third Party apps calling camera, shooting moving objects the result is not as expected

Fix - When the torch is switched on the camera cannot be started

[Gallery]

Optimisation - Improve performance of multiple select operations

Fix - Cloud album boot prompt error

[File Explorer]

New - Add new files to clean up or add to cache whitelist

Optimise - File list display efficiency

[Browser]

Add New Incognito window animation tips effect (04-28)

New access unsafe URL prompt (04-28)

[Calendar]

Fix - Google Calendar sync failure

Fix - Switching input method may cause MIUI system to restart

[Notes]

New - Desktop shortcut editing functions

[Mi Credit Payments]

Optimisation - Currency coupon renamed to currency card

[Xiaomi Account]

Add Xiaomi cloud service entrance page

[Fast pass]

Fix - Problems caused by "fast pass" flash back
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LoLaTiOn:
MIUI its Now !!!

lol parts

This is my wife going beings happy

If she wake it i am dead because I have Guick all day on XDA say she nothing Friends MouHaHa ?§!

Fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix fix ............... Hey Hop MIUI BOOTING hahaha **** MIUI and **** SAMSUNG UPLOADING NOW...

Changelog i9003 3.5.3

- Based on loSco cm-10-20130501 > http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40934430&postcount=354 Please Thannnnnnnnnnnkkkks

- Add Tweak init.d and build.prob

- 100% original MIUIANDROI + MULTI

- What ?§! it's just MIUI by LoLaTiOn it's fully fixed i think Brothers ^^

CHINESE parts

For fix Phone FC chinese lang need just pushing "framework-miui-res.apk" in framework floder of source crespo miui.com English/Chinese or use my old fix

Sorry if i fix this MULTI HS for XDA

Cordialy

MIUI-3.5.3-20130501-UNOFFICIAL-galaxysl.zip - 212.95 MB

enjoy MIUI
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] emilio666:
Any review of the last version comrades ? :cowboy:

Is it RAM hunger? Does the last loSco kernel improve lag on this one? I know I should flash myself but I need the phone fully operational this weekend :silly:

I will give it a try on monday and report back if there is no feedback here. Thank you Lolation

EDIT: I did a fast "flash and try" and it seems smoother, but MIUI it's a bit heavy for our phones. In addition, it does not have SwapSD nor Performance Control apps but it includes gapps.
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LoLaTiOn:
Fix bug using dual UMS

My bad sorry a forgotten xml change in framework-res\res\xml\storage_list.xml

power_profile.xml also fixed good values battery capacity at 1650
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jooode:
lola in the fix going to have problems because you eliminate the Keyboard:good:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LoLaTiOn:
ho yes lol sorry thx jooode :good:

delete this lines in updater-script

ui_print("= Deleted LatinIME.apk =");

delete("/system/app/LatinIME.apk");
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jooode:
Friend my small contribution to your great work:

The weather in the lock screen is with Weather BZ.

CONCEPT MIUI V5_by Jooode
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] rahul_rocks3:
how to use this mtz file
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] jooode:
put it on your sd. themes installer you in the dock. pressing menu button and exit, export from sd. looking the mtz and export it, then apply it and ready

Enviado desde mi GT-I9003 usando Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] LoLaTiOn:
Wow great work Joood Thank :good:

This theme is just fantastic really my taste I just installed for look your works :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy SL i9003] emilio666:
Lolation, SwapSD alpha 5 seems not to work properly with this ROM. I had to edit vold.fstab manually to swap the SD :eek:
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] droidbreath:
Is there any way to increase volume by some tweaks or something?

I'm using ApexSense v2 (ICS)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] droidbreath:
Also give links if any!!

PLease also attach links!!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] BleedingIris:
noozoxide rewire pro.try it.

Recommended apps section

LâTêS†↭ⓛⓘⓝⓚⓢ™CM10 HTC A310E.

If I haven't given you link, it's above. Just click it
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tokafondo:
Hello All.

I bought an HTC Desire A8181, GSM version, and the first thing I did was to upgrade it to 2.3.

There is nothing wrong with it, but there is one thing that has me disappointed: the low light performance of the camera.

I have had an HTC Wildfire/Buzz and cuurrently have a HTC ChaCha/Status, and both of them has way greater low light sensivity.

Not even the flash helps...

Is this a faulty cam module or just a 'feature' of this model???

Thanks.
[Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ttocs99:
Try and download a camera app n have a twiddle with the settings
[G2 and Desire Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RevanStar11:
Hello guys.

One SV and more recently Desire X got Jelly Bean 4.1 and Sense 4+ update.

Do you think it will be technically possible to get working port of these roms on ours Desire Z?

I read about Sensation which needs deep kernel modifications to get JB+Sense 4+. Would it be the same for us (if it's possible), and can we expect ports on DZ in the next weeks?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] A_U:
PROCEDURE TO INSTALL :

Download and push the latest CyanTux ROM to SD Card

Reboot to Recovery Mode

Select Wipe data and cache

Select install zip from sd card

Select choose zip from sd card

Select the cyantux ROM

Select Yes - Install update

Wait until the Installation is finish

Select Wipe data and cache

Select Wipe cache partition

Select reboot system now

DOWNLOADS :

Click HERE

Click HERE For Resized bootanimation
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] fendytrancers89:
Thanks bro good rom and nice :p:p
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] gabrielking9:
Re: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

Good, thanks for being the Porter for our device :D:D:D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] A_U:
sure no problem..if the interface and features are nice, it will be in our mini section ;)

and dont worry, i am not like that dqib, spamming by porting every random rom :p
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] gabrielking9:
Re: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

I know :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] hsay:
Re: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

Awesome ,lovely ...as I said ten months ago and I quote, "You are going to be one of the best development we ever have "

But you already were one of the best even then ......:cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] tux-kid's:
great :good:

i was try to build cyantux for galaxy mini but have problem with SystemUi and Dialer get FC :silly:

i will try to open my source on github and maybe you can maintain cyantux for galaxy mini ...

it's take long time to upload all my source :p
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] A_U:
sure that will be great too :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] songolas77:
Can't anyone help me out to mirror this rom to mediafire or zippyshare please, i can't get that link.. thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] tio12:
great job dude ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] MAD_psycho_Zz:
R: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

only one issue:carrier logo selection FC all other stuff is nice :)

Inviato dal mio GT-S5570 con Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] Jeffrianz:
Re: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

Whooooaaa greper styleeee :eek:

But I still loves mini CM10 :D

Great work mannn.. :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] tux-kid's:
don't remove default file manager from me if you remove it carrier logo will get fc :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mortum:
this rom is really smooth and stable:) one thing i found its that alarm screen dont saw the the time, and settings for sd card speed dont persist after reboot?
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] lockdalf:
same issue with alarm

that alarm invisible texts is the only issue I have found with this ROM so far... otherwise it is the fastest ROM I have tried so far on my SGM. Antutu gave me over 4700 and I have never had my app recovered so fast through titanium...

Nice one... Thanks button was hit...:good::good::good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] ShadowFax:
Re: [PORT][CM7] CyanTUX ROM Release #1

When I connect my mini to my PC by data cable, I don't get any notification to connect my sdcard to PC....anyone else facing this???

If not I have to flash the Rom again
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mortum:
its working for me
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] lockdalf:
All you have to do is disable android debugging under developer settings. It will pop up then... It is a standard behaviour of android...
[Samsung Galaxy Mini] mortum:
i have try almost all roms in xda for mini, when i flash this i dont want to change rom anymore. its fast, no lag, with awesome ui. only problems are that you cant see alarm time, and you cant set sd read ahead size, with that two it will be perfect. i have install script for sd but default settings persist, i try fix these myself but i cant, i am too noob for that. dont know if that help but post a logfile in cache someone can fix them
[HTC One X+] Synoptex:
Well, as I am looking for a good leather case for my black HOX+ and I can't buy anything without a big research, I decided to create a thread with Leather cases. First of all I'm doing it for myself, but I will be happy if it helps somebody too.

If you can add anything, this would be great and I will repost it in the first post with my style.

This will be updated as new Leather Case models are found.
[HTC One X+] Synoptex:
reserved
[HTC One X+] botanist:
leather case for HOX+ recommendation

I've just ordered the Monaco leather case (black) as the similar one for my Samsung Galaxy (original make!) still looks pristine after 2 years. The first leather case I bought for the SG fell apart at the corner stitching after a few months. The Monaco is thicker than the ones shown, but that is part of its durability. It's selling for $30 plus low shipping at wirelessground
[HTC One X+] trumsen:
does anybody know, if the HTC One X+ fits in the HTC PO S550 for Desire HD ?
[HTC One X+] pradeepvizz:
i don't know, may be you can compare the dimension on gsmarena and then decide
[HTC One X+] adob99:
Hi, does anyone know where I can find a whole black (with black hardshell) hc v701 flip case? There are pictures of it on Google images and I could only find it on the Australian HTC accessory store but they don't seem to ship to Europe, where I live.

Thanks.
[HTC One X+] pradeepvizz:
Look at this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUI..._MobilePhonesCasesPouches&hash=item4d06da64d4
[HTC One X+] Walderstorn:
Damn thats so expensive...
[HTC One X+] pradeepvizz:
ya that is.. check this out... http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=200918474587&index=0&nav=SEARCH&nid=69721986830
[HTC One X+] Walderstorn:
lol thanks m8
[HTC One X+] adob99:
Thanks for the link, but I am looking the one with the black hardshell, not clear / transparent.
[HTC One X+] pradeepvizz:
Thats the first time i see that!
[HTC One X+] akpe:
Edit: Nope, I was wrong:

http://www.htcaccessories.com.au/HTC_One_X_Hard_Shell_Cas_Black.aspx

http://www.shantekaccessories.com.a...with-cover-htc-one-x-one-xl.html#.UYozErX-G94
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] McNugget:
Hi there,

does anyone know where I can find a Java Developer Kit, to write java programs ON (with) my XDA? I need it to do my homework for university when I have some free time there...

Maybe someone has some experience with that?

I took a look at Sun but I was not able, after hours of searching, to find anything for PPC.

I would be very glad to read some tips!

sencerly

Timo
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Chris_French:
Java for XDA

Hi Timo,

I had this problem it is a bit confusing - what you need to look for is:-

'J2ME' on the sun web site.

I am writting stuff for my XDA and wanted to use java - unfortunatly the XDA does not come with embeded java so you need to install the correct jvm (ARM) onto your XDA before any software will run.

I decided to use embeded c - if you know c this is great becuase it is free and works on any Windows CE system.

I have just switch to C# however to keep my hand into a few languages.

Try the above search on the sun site - if you have any problems let me know and I will pull out the URL's for you.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Rudegar:
http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/users/fittond/ppcjava.html

http://mindprod.com/jgloss/pocketpc.html

http://www.comp.lancs.ac.uk/computing/users/fittond/ppccomm.html
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] eero.lehtinen:
Creme ist the best Java for XDA II

Creme ist the best Java for XDA II. I have tried Jeode and Sun javas. Jeode is slower and Sun is buggy.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
I noticed alot of people having trouble with flashing ROMS based off the Xmas leak 98.72.8 while being updated to the 98.72.16 OTA, so i made some SafeStrap flashable zips that allow you to keep the .16 OTA in stock slot while having a .8 based ROM in another slot.

No need to fastboot the entire leak to flash leak based roms.

Just flash the appropriate zip for whichever slot you are booting.

Use these if you get bootloops with certain ROMs that require you to be on the christmas leak. You can switch back and forth from stock OTA to custom pretty easy.

I only have an xt912 CDMA so thats all i tested on. Any input is welcomed. I will reply when possible.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nu2droid:
Re: [KERNEL][JB]Flashable Boot Files for Xmas leak based ROMS

When are we supposed to flash this?

Before or after flashing the desired ROM?

I am on the ota and want to flash triple core..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
Either will work. But I suggest after.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nu2droid:
Re: [KERNEL][JB]Flashable Boot Files for Xmas leak based ROMS

OK. Gotcha..

I am unable to flash it. It says "failed". Unable to open zip file.

I am running safe strap 3.11..
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
I uploaded them from my phone and dropbox links....

Here are the links

boot.JB.98.72.8

boot.JB.98.72.16

I fixed the attached files as well
[Motorola Droid RAZR] nu2droid:
Re: [KERNEL][JB]Flashable Boot Files for Xmas leak based ROMS

That did it.....

Thank you much!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
You're welcome.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattkilla420:
dude this worked flawlessly without the need of a computer. Great. Question? do i have to flash that file everytime or is it a one time thing?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
I actually wrote it all on my RAzR without a computer.

Once it's there it's there. Most ROMS don't rewrite that file. But to Boot your stock slot without a cryptographic error you have to flash the *.16.zip
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mattkilla420:
or any other slot for that matter. just figured that out. so i will need both files on my sd. still a great zip

edit_ will it work for other than my stock. I never use stock. I have roms on slots 1 and 2 they are .16 and my jellywiz i put on slot 3 and flashed the .8 zip. so in order to use either of my .16 slots i need to flash the .16 zip first? am i correct is this going to work since im not dealing with stock. only the safe side.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] drinxtir:
ya to go from jwiz to a .16 you have to flash the .16.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] monkteo:
OK I want to clarify some questions?

I am on 98.72.16 JB if I want to install Jellywiz RLS7 I need to go on Jb 98.72.8.

So (slot 1 clean) install rom + gapps + Patch GSM then install script changes from 16 to 8 and reboot.

if I want after 1-2 days to use another rom installed on slot 2 must do something or just exchange slots ss 3.11?

thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] motrinHD:
with this I would be able to switch from stock .16 to any ROM .8 slot with ease?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] misterk267:
I successfully booted a .8 rom using the zip, but i cannot boot .16 roms without a crypto whatever error, despite the fact that i have flashed the .16 zip multiple times. Any thoughts?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Crumplet:
Can you update this for xt910 gsm users?This won't work for xt910 gsm phone...Thread is subscribed, i give you E for effort.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tcuwolf:
Worked perfectly thanks

Is there any way to run a GB rom using ur method to load a GB kernel
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tcuwolf:
Stock ROM won't boot any ROM running .16 kernel will not boot
[Motorola Droid RAZR] chubbrock:
Life Saver!!!!!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] henricson:
Installation instructions?

Can somebody please post a tutorial on how to install the rls7 rom on a european gsm retail device? (With this kernel of course) :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDEDALE:
Hello,

I currently have a phone based on mt6577 where I started to modify the kernel to improve performance but I have a big concern about the swap. I want to enable zram.

I turn on when I swap it ends up freezing the system reboots instantly or with a random delay.

Kernel 3.0, 4.0.4 ICS

I tried to create a swap file system, the result is the same.

I have been looking for a while or could be the problem but without result.

A solution, an idea, a way?

Thank you.

Its kernel source here: github.com/Old-Geek/Wiko_Cink-Slim_3.0
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IDEDALE:
Resolved

Android Low Memory Killer <---
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] numbre:
I would love to hear some stories...
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilometers4:
What does this have to do with the Galaxy tab 10.1?
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djmatt604:
Agreed. There are much more productive ways to get your 10 posts than this friends. :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyaztec:
I am having an issue with ADB and rooting my n4 as above When i do"ADB reboot bootloader" I get Emulator-5554 offline and error: more than one device and emulator.

And I cant cant do anything. I have tried adb kill-server didn't work, a lot of people say it is bluestacks and to just end the process (I dont seem to have that installed with the android sdk I got). I have tried connecting it to port 5555 like people have said. Im lost now, any help :(
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonnyaztec:
Solved you need to use adb -d reboot bootloader :) delete please
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
Information

This app install or uninstall the Android default browser on all Android devices from version 4.x

For the function of this app is [ROOT] permissions requiered.

Nexus devices that have pre-installed Chrome(Nexus 4/7/10) are officially supported, butt the AOSP browser may to FC (if websites with Flash loaded).

Of course you can test it with all Android devices you want, but it is not recommended.

You can find the source code on GitHub

Screenshots

Download

Play Store-Link

Over XDA

I've foud a bug or have a new idea

Contact me: ashotmkrtchyan1995@gmail.com or over xda​
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] PVL_93_RU:
Re: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

There's one glitch:

Sometimes the control buttons (Back / Forward / Refresh) become invisible, can be fixed by restarting the browser

Is the bug present here also?
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
AW: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

Yes this bug is known and currently I am looking for a solution to fix it and support nexus 4 and 10..
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] NabhanKhan100:
Re: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

Nice
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] random hero:
AW: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

Works great on my nexus 7. Thanks for that! But one thing I am unhappy with: doesn't support any third party keyboard apps? Only stock keyboard? Or did I make a mistake?
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
AW: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

Did you mean the keyboard to browse with the AOSP Browser ?

I don't have any influence to that. Reinstall your keyboard and try again :)

In the attached screenshot I use Hacker's keyboard.
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] jipee296:
Does this browser FC's/freezes if the flash plug in is always on?
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
AW: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

Only in some Websites, YouTube works great, I'll release a new update on Play Store soon :)
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] random hero:
AW: [APP][ROOT]AOSP Browser Installer - easy and fast one-click installer

To give an update: kiis keyboard is working. But could not get my formerly used xperia keyboard running.
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] masterleron:
What's your font, I like it.
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
I think Clocktopia. Thanks :)
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] kosivi:
On my Sony Ericsson Xperia Ray I installed AOSP Browser and rebooted but I can't find the icon in the app drawer... Any ideas what to do? Also, there is a little misspelling - row 31 in /res/values/strings.xml - should be "Deleting" instead of "Deleating". Not very problematic issue, but still an issue :D Thank you!
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
Do you have tested the nexus 4 apk to?

Sry I haven't Sony Ericsson device so I can't provide the working of the app.

If there is not the launcher icon means there is a problem while the installation, the installer works but the browser is not ported to your device

Thanks for the help I have fixed the string :)
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] Pulstar35:
Flash Player not working.

Freezes...
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
In the first page we have discuss about the flash player.
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] BHNx:
Where can i get the apk without google play acces?
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DsLNeXuS:
Just attached the apks in the first post :).
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] danibus:
Thanks great work
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] 3473:
Works great for me, could it be updated to include the 2013 aosp browser (4.2.2) rather than 2012 aosp browser (4.2)?

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Themes and Apps] DoubleYouPee:
Hi,

I tried this on my Xperia ZL, but it says I'm not rooted.

However I am rooted.

Any idea?

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] Shi_Shi:
I just got a Pantech Burst P9070 yesterday and I haven't done anything to it as yet but while I'm using it the screen goes blue for some seconds then it restarts itself. I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me insight about this problem and if it could be fixed. Thanks. :)
[Galaxy S III General] PilgrimToHyperion:
I got notification that Samsung Push Service had an update available. The description is kind of vague, so I decided to read the comments to see what the users' experience with it was. No one really knows, or cares, but the reviews are awesome. :laugh:

Go have a look!

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sec.spp.push&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zZWMuc3BwLnB1c2giXQ..
[Galaxy S III General] freddy1991:
Really funny
[Galaxy S III General] nhariamine:
i smell a " FUNNY " thread lock coming your way !!:laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
haha! :laugh::laugh:

this comment made me laugh!

"I dont know how to use it. It says it is installed on my ph but I cant find it nowhere !! And the comments on it confuse me.. im thinking it is some kind of weight loss app !! Urgg !! Im so confused. NO STARS"
[Galaxy S III General] Galactus:
Weight Loss App o_O HAHA
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
that person was so confused because the other comments were like "Wow, I lost lost 25 lbs" :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] Galactus:
Guess they didn't see the other comments talking about the app "Mowing the lawn" and talk about flux capacitors lol
[Galaxy S III General] rockler:
Had a good laugh reading these comments, thanks OP :)
[Galaxy S III General] Glebun:
please post in the General thread
[Galaxy S III General] DeadSOL:
If only people would listen... :silly: