yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] Phaded:
Development will continue. You just won't be able to reap the fruits of the devs labor.
[HTC Droid DNA] lacrosse1991:
good to hear :) was my only worry. Think I may wait till the end of july to see if anything happens (will be the most convenient time to not have my phone with me) and then go for the jtag if other people have had positive experiences with the service
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
So I just mailed out my phone. It's flat rate and should get there by friday. Here's hoping everything goes well and maybe getting it back by friday of next week.

On a side note, thanks to those who registered for Copy from my link below. I really appreciate it.
[HTC Droid DNA] chispa9:
just got mines back with s-off and i have the ota on it :laugh: :good:
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
From mobiltech? Can you tell us the condition and round trip time?
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
Emailed Mobiletech. Asking for a discount for a limited time for us. I know that $45 just is too much to make me send off my phone when i have a perfectly good working phone. If i had a bricked phone, it would be worth it. If we can get a $30 rate, i would do it. That's barely the cost of my case. S-off would be nice since there is no guarantee we will ever get that. We may get root, but would be limited without S-OFF.

my 2 cents.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
+9000!
[HTC Droid DNA] chispa9:
Well its in great condition and I live in texas and their ship to address is there too so it took a day for them to get my phone and I got it back in like 3 days. Great service definitely recommend to anyone that wants to give it a try
[HTC Droid DNA] v335690:
Great news. Thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] lacrosse1991:
thanks for the review!
[HTC Droid DNA] thetunicakid:
You guys thanks for the review. Gave the guys a call. The tech I talked with knew specifically all about what he was talking about. Ive owned three evo phones all with s-off. Im sold. Gonna send mine off tomorrow.
[HTC Droid DNA] smokeinluke:
correction

Thank you that's what I meant but I have the fat fingers and my rezound has a mind of its own haha thanks for the thread correction.
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
What other hboot options do we have besides the engineering hboot if we don't feel like going through the entire process to unlock the original hboot? Are there other unlocked hboots we can fastboot available?
[HTC Droid DNA] maxima3rd:
how i install this ?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
You just listed your only 2 options.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Don't know why you wouldn't unlock. But you can just flash your unsigned recovery from a zip file with a simple android-info.txt file in the zip as well. After you are s-off of course. The boot-time signature checks are disabled on s-off devices.
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Several people now have just went

enghboot

recovery

supersu

full backup

new rom

Mine comes back tomorrow and since you can flash all kernels with recovery once soff and you do not need to use hboot for anything myself and others were just wondering if there were any drawbacks?
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
I think everyone should unlock so they have their unlock token and also so they have to set up working adb and fastboot and will have a working folder on their computer ready to go.
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
My phone will be here in the morning. I have everything ready to go now haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
That's my plan. However, it seems there may still be some confusion? The enghboot is required for a custom recovery right? I know with s-off you can "write whatever you want" but without a unlocked/engineer hboot the custom recovery still will not work? At least this seems to be the confusing part from reading the threads. I think that's why everyone is either A. unlocking or B. enghboot.

The only "drawbacks" I've read is that the engineer hboot gives you access to writing really messed up stuff if you want to. However, unless you're using these extra features I don't see where that would be an issue.

Why isn't there an already unlocked hboot distributed for the DNA so we just need to write that? I guess that's why I asked about other hboots because it would be easier than reverting to previous hboot, RUU, supercid, htcdev, etc.... Don't get me wrong, it's not hard to do the process but it seems that s-off people could take advantage of just directly writing a "good" hboot.
[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
Sent mine out today...when I get it back I am going to follow the post #140 instructions (fastboot flash the 1.15 HBoot), run the 1.15 RUU, SuperCID then to HTC Dev unlock, flash a custom recovery and then if I flash Viper 1.3....I'm good to go, as that will give me Root (su), correct?

Can't wait to get back in the game!
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
You guys are funny. You don't need to downgrade to supercid and unlock on an

s-off phone. If for some reason they don't supercid you can just do it right from recovery. Don't bother with downgrades.
[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
Don't want to flash the ENG HBoot...so I do then...right? I may change my mind and then I realize I do not need to downgrade/supercid or unlock, but right now I'm leaning toward the stock HBoot

I can follow instructions to a T for getting my device, unlocked, rooted or S-Off, but can't think outside of the box to realize I could do things a different way...lol
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
beaups blew my mind today in irc. Basically we don't have to downgrade to anything, enghboot is unnecessary, and we can do most of what I think you all want in a few pretty simple commands if you already have S-OFF. When I get my phone back I'll throw up my experience there if someone doesn't detail it out before then.
[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
Yeah, he's kinda smart! :) but it's those few "simple" commands that aren't so apparent to me....lol.

But if you have the short-short method I am all ears :)
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Can someone post the commands and or files here? I get mine back in the AM
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
I don't feel comfortable posting a process I haven't yet tried myself. However. If your goal is say custom recovery plus viper (or other rom)...

fastboot your custom recovery with a zip file package.

Use custom recovery to backup/wipe and then load new zip file.

Reboot

Done.

Unnecessary extras if you want access to additional fastboot commands

Unlock boot loader with dd from recovery or android for extra fastboot options

Or

Replace hboot with engineering hboot for extra flashboot options with fastboot.

I know this wont help if you don't know how to do these things but like I said I don't want to give a full command list until I do it myself and verify it works for me. Hope to have the phone back sat or mon.
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
So I just tested for you guys. The easiest/safest way to handle this is (s-off but locked OTA device):

fastboot oem writecid 22222222

then do htcdev unlock.

Then flash whatever you feel like through the normal methods (e.g. flash recovery then roms etc)
[HTC Droid DNA] [indiferenc]:
i just want to say, thank you for all that you do for us lay people who have no idea what we're doing, short of following directions from people like you. i get really pissed when i see people on here whining about unlock and expect the devs to give them something that they dont deserve lol.

anyway, i was also concerned with flashing the ENG boot. thanks for this. getting my DNA back early next week from MTV. does anyone know what commands are on the ENG boot?
[HTC Droid DNA] beaups:
Unless you have a specific NEED for eng hboot, I'd advise to stay away
[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
You are a beautiful man...lol

Thank you very much! Hopefully by this time next week I'll be in adb typing those commands!
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
If any of you get to a point where you're beating your head against the wall with ADB, PM me for my gtalk. I would rather teach a man to fish than give him some fish already cooked.

Many people hit a lil issue and then forever try to avoid fastboot or adb. Especially being s off you need to know it, and its so easy once you get the hang of it.

I'd rather you PM me with "what command do I use for fastboot flash boot boot.img ?"

Than see a post on the forum saying "can someone make this flashable I can't use adb or fastboot its over my head"
[HTC Droid DNA] Apex i ITR:
Just wanted to say I just used mobiletech and it was perfect. They s-off'd for me and loaded the latest CWM recovery. Its kinda weird seeing bootloader locked and s-off at the same time.

I went ahead and installed newtoroot's latest DNA build and some other apps that needed root. Flawless. I would recommend them to anyone.
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Just did the writecid 22222222 and htcdevunlock after picking up my phone this morning. Took about 10 minutes. Now on newts sense 5 rom.

fastboot oem writecid 22222222

Htcdev unlock

fastboot flash recovery nameofrecovery.img

copy rom to sdcard

profit

My phone came back immaculate!

Thanks Beaups!
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
Thanks for the update man, congrats!

Beaups you mentioned before that the cid got blocked from verizon? What happens when this one gets blocked? Is it being blocked at htcdev or somewhere on the carrier side somehow?
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
Probably can switch to all 3s 4s etc lol. But if they were to block them all you could still use enghboot.
[HTC Droid DNA] eakeller:
Htcdev blocked the 11111111 CID. Hence the string of 2s which evidently still work.
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
I guess the reason I ask is if Verizon can grab that remotely and ban your phone or if it isn't something they can grab and after you unlock it doesn't matter. Seems like it might be a better idea to keep the cid intact and just throw a recovery on there and not even worry about touching the bootloader. At least for the S-OFF people.
[HTC Droid DNA] lazybeast:
When you mentioned Htcdev unlock, do you mean to use the supercid.apk?
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
No, when you are soff you can just fastboot oem writecid 22222222.

Then hit htcdev
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Just unlock the bootloader. Stop thinking of the worst case scenario.
[HTC Droid DNA] lazybeast:
I know how to do fastboot oem writecid 22222222, but what do you mean "hit htcdev", does it appear after the run the previous command? Is it an app or how do I hit it?

Sorry, this is not my first time rooting, but it is my first time going through all of this.

I tried searching online about htcdev and they sent me to the htc website but the droid dna is not on the list anymore.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Htcdev.com

Just choose other devices.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
As I see it, when you go to htcdev.com, there's an agreement (my best guess I don't know the details) with Verizon that when someone goes to unlock their bootloader the software will first make sure its not a Verizon device.

So when you choose other devices and start the process it checks the carrier id for Verizon's CID. It sees Vzw_001 and says to itself "aw darn this is one of those Verizon devices I have to remain hands off"

I'm glad HTC only has a bouncer at the front door and accidentally leaves the backdoor cracked.
[HTC Droid DNA] djwishbone:
Interesting. That's what I was curious about. I have certainly just blindly run commands in the past but I'm really interested in how all this stuff works together. Thanks.
[HTC Droid DNA] lazybeast:
So when I Jtag to get S-off and run the fastboot oem writecid 22222222. It tricks htc dev that this is not a Verizon device and it will allow me to unlock the bootloader.

If this is right, then things are starting to make sense to me now.
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
That is correct.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[HTC Droid DNA] karn101:
If you did the JTAG, why did you do all that unnecessary stuff?

---------- Post added at 08:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:01 PM ----------

You can just flash the engineer's HBOOT (or maybe just flash recovery) when you get your phone back. No need to change CID.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
The enghboot is NOT a thing that most people should install. If you don't know what your doing it lets you full on brick your phone. Even though it may be 'easier' to flash the enghboot, it is MUCH safer to just change the vid and unlock your bootloader.
[HTC Droid DNA] ocman40:
It was quick and painless as well.
[HTC Droid DNA] lacrosse1991:
is there any damage that is incurred to the phone while going through the jtag process? (say for instance a seal is broken, etc)
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
what do you guys do while the phone is away ?
[HTC Droid DNA] kkeller87:
I have my old DX. Its really hard to go from the DNA to the DX. But its better than no phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] fronc:
I would also like to know this..

Sent from my locked down Droid DNA...
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
i haven't gotten a response from the company i contacted, mobiletech, so what other options are there?
[HTC Droid DNA] Grimmity:
You can practically watch the whole process if you youtube "jtag droid dna". It looks like it would void the warranty, but it'd be worth it imo.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
Still have my Gnex. I was dumb and read the forums AFTER I already bought the phone. Since I knew there would be issues, I held onto my Nexus just in case. Once the DNA comes back and I get it up and running, then I will sell the Gnex.

I would like to know as well, but I'm more interested in physical aspects. Are there any tool marks after the process is done? I don't care if I void the warrenty because I bought the phone used anyways.
[HTC Droid DNA] Slys13:
Not that I would do it...how ever u could say that u lost the phone if it get leaders up lol.....not saying go do it butt sure there are people who do
[HTC Droid DNA] munchy_cool:
I did get a DNA from swappa and mobiletech had s-offed it using the jtag, there were no marks on the phone which showed it was ever opened,

how do I know it was s-offed using jtag because software s-off did not exist at that time.

also the guy who owns mobiletech is a member here , dont remember his id though
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
The only thing people may want to consider is, the process of JTagging this device requires them to pull out the motherboard to gain access to the pins on the back of it. One of the motherboard screws is covered with a "tamper evident" sticker. So once they unscrew this screw, there is proof the device has once been disassembled.

A lot of people don't care about this, but others are concerned because of warranty and things like this. Just puttin' it out there.
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
Could have very well been one they have away at the DNA launch event
[HTC Droid DNA] munchy_cool:
they guy i bought it from lives near mobiletech and he owns another android website so I trust him :D
[HTC Droid DNA] Grimmity:
Exactly what I was trying to insinuate. Of course seals will be broken, but for those of us already tampering with other aspects of the phone, it isn't something to worry about. I doubt physical damage is done.

Again, watch the video on youtube if you have concerns and make you decision on that.
[HTC Droid DNA] lacrosse1991:
By seals I had just meant stuff like the rubber around the edge of the phone (water resistant material), etc. Although one question, do you know what that black stuff is for that was ripped in the video?
[HTC Droid DNA] monkboy24:
Guys just send it in and get it done already! It's safe, it's ok, it's good :o:D:thumbup:

sent from my DNA rooted and s-off running sense 5 while connected to your mother's wifi
[HTC Droid DNA] Grimmity:
From the teardowns I've watched, it's just a piece of tape
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
My DNA just arrived at mobile tech according to USPS. I'm on pins and needles waiting for it to come back.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
I'll be the judge of that :cool:
[HTC Droid DNA] tucstwo:
I apologize for not being more specific. I too have seen the teardown videos. With that being said, I am also intimately aware of the inside of this phone from my own horrific experiences. Anyway, I was not referring to the black tape which covers the innards, nor the gold tape that protects the chipset or the yellow static tape that covers the connectors, I was referring to the aluminum foil sticker that reads, "VOID" and covers one of the screws. I tried as best as I could not to ruin this sticker, but it's literally made of a very, very thin aluminum foil and crumbles with even the most gentle of contact. Perhaps there are some who can remove this without ruining it, but I found it extremely difficult to even touch it would it falling apart.

Again, to most, the mantra is "Who the hell cares?" But to some, there is concern with evidence that the device has been tampered with/opened with no way to cover one's steps.

Pics: (I apologize for the quality, my "good" camera was apart at the moment)
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
That sticker will be destroyed when you try to open it. No ifs ands or buts. Your warranty WILL be voided if you get your phone jtagged. That's a given.
[HTC Droid DNA] kaliblazin707:
Yea but I have sent in referbs to tmo in the past with the software tanmpered n voided n they didn't notice. If I jtag this you think it would be the same story?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Whether they care about it or not is a completely different issue. But that sticker will be destroyed.
[HTC Droid DNA] HOOKEDONDROID:
What if you used a heat gun to warm the adhesive they use and lift it off with the tip of a razor blade. I do this when repairing ps3's and Xbox from ylod.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
It would tear the instant the Razer blade touched it.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
Those stickers are specifically disigned to be virtually impossible to remove (I say virtually because you should never have 100% certainty). We have very similar stickers in my line of work, and I've tried everything I could think to try and remove them (heat gun, solvents, scalpel + microscope, etc.). I have yet to find a way to remove one w/o some evidence of tampering. If you had the exact same stickers that they use then you might have a shot (and a potentially very lucrative business :D )
[HTC Droid DNA] kaliblazin707:
Can someone upload a pic? We should search for replacment stickers. Look at these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/sis.html?_kw=VOID+REPAIR+WARRANTY+STICKER+REPLACEMENT+FOR+HTC+DESIRE
[HTC Droid DNA] Slys13:
Look just say u lost your phone....boom bypass the whole warenty crap....
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
And commit a felony in the process, yay!!!
[HTC Droid DNA] CrazyRussianXDA:
Wow, scary. What an idiotic comment.
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
Could you please explain why this is an idiotic comment? I would like to hear your logic on this.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[HTC Droid DNA] lacrosse1991:
it does not look like the sticker is touched at all in the video, or is it damaged by the simple act of opening up the phone?
[HTC Droid DNA] kaliblazin707:
Do any of the replacement stickers I linked match ours?
[HTC Droid DNA] Slys13:
And beside not that I would do that forsay...im sure tho that people have and will.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
Ok, so to try and get this thread back on topic... I just got off the phone with mobiletechvideos. They have about 80 phones that arrived this past saturday. They are working on processing them now. Turn around time seems to be about 4 days with USPS flat rate shipping return. I'm looking at Tues or Wed of next week before I get my DNA back. (the waiting is torture!!). I plan to post pictures when I get it back to show physical condition of the phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] regulator207:
is mobiletechvideos the only people who have the capability to s-off via jtag? thanks.
[HTC Droid DNA] kaliblazin707:
No. Google cell repair in ur area. Ask for JTAG services.
[HTC Droid DNA] orangekid:
thread cleaned.

Please read the thread title. Your post should have something to do with Using JTAG S-OFF Service with 2.04 Firmware.

If it has to do with something else, post it in the thread that has to do with that.

If it is a personal attack or disrespectful, post it on Facebook, Twitter, MySpace, G+, or any other social outlet, but not here.

Thanks.
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
Thanks Orangekid!.

Back to focus: 80 phones came in? Wow, i guess everyone pretty much gave up hope for a software fix. I'm still on the fence over Jtagging. I don't mind $30, but mobiletech is asking $45 plus we have to ship. Because i'm grandfathered, i already paid a ton for my phone and don't want to keep sinking more $$$ into a phone that sure seems likely that the devs are going to abandon for the HTC one or S4 shortly. Right now, leaning to not doing it. But want to see what those 80 folks say over the coming weeks. Hopefully they'll share their opinions in this thread.
[HTC Droid DNA] kkeller87:
In the beginning of this thread I mentioned that I sent mine in to mobiletech on April 1. It was the 4th when they got it. Today, the 9th, I got an email saying it was complete. I have no idea if its been shipped or not.

Edit: I'm in MN. For those wondering
[HTC Droid DNA] nived09:
Definitely looking forward to hearing from someone who has had it done.

I found a place about 30min from me that say they can do it and I just want to see if there are

and physical risks to anything on the phone. I'm really hoping that the place I found

is of decent quality haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
They do more than just DNA s-off. They debrick a bunch of devices and s-off other HTC phones.
[HTC Droid DNA] sic4672:
Since it's sent USPS flat rate, there is a tracking number. You could call or email and request it. The guy I spoke to was really nice and accommodating.
[HTC Droid DNA] kkeller87:
Very nice. I'll be calling them this afternoon then

Edit: mobile tech updated me with shipping info
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
I've talked to these guys on the phone a lot and through email. Super cool to talk with and do business with, I've even caught them at the office working late one night around 9 PM and the guy spent about 30 minutes on the phone with me discussing the DNA and different things we kicked around.
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
Looks like this $150 box (riffbox) and some simple steps is all we need.

http://www.jtagbox.com/jtag-news/ri...nbrick-unlock-imei-supercid-repair-supported/

I'm thinking this might be a nice little side $$ project. None of the local phone fixers here do Jtag so it's untapped.
[HTC Droid DNA] nived09:
It's nice if you have the knowledge and the ability to breakdown, which you can gain from some pretty in depth youtube videos, and are able to make money off it, but for singular use its a lot of money just to get S-Off which you can do at a repair shop. But definitely if you have all the resources that would be cool. How are you soldering skills? Just wondering because I literally have no experience and am interested.
[HTC Droid DNA] orateam:
I learned to solder back on the xbox when you had to solder 10 spots without getting a drop off target to get the chip to load backups. I fried a few xbox's but have gotten better. I'm def thinking of doing this for others. It seems to be a small startup costs ($150) to make $50 a pop. After just 2 more than my own, it pays for itself. i looked for jtag capable places in florida and couldn't find one. So there is a market. I'll be researching :)
[HTC Droid DNA] superchaos:
After seeing this video, I think I will just buy a new phone instead of trying to attempt it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoiuM9epp2o

I will stick to fixing cars :)

Caution, Ectasy soundtrack plays the entire time...
[HTC Droid DNA] kaliblazin707:
LmAo yea I had my DNA apart a few times and hd2 is way more complex trust me. HTC did a great job packaging up this baby.
[HTC Droid DNA] karn101:
I have a question regarding this service - when you turn the security flag off (s-off), are you also unlocking the bootloader?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
No, but you can easily do it if you really want it. But having a unlocked bootloader is pretty much pointless with s off.