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[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] katamari201:
Ha I'm probably what some would like to label a Samsung fanboy. :p By HTC fanboys no less! I ***** and moan enough about Samsung phones.

Look at the pictures here.

S4: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2213853

HTC One (start from last page): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2169626

It's like night and day. The quality difference between the S4 and HTC One. The S4 isn't even out yet.

Compare it to even last year's One X:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2212969

Even the One X takes better pictures. Kind of sad. The HTC One only has a "slight" edge during really pitch black I can't see my hand shots.

This is truly the comparison that really decimates the HTC One.

mobile-review copmarison (S4 vs others including HTC One)

http://translate.google.com/transla...review/samsung-galaxy-s4-camera.shtml&act=url

Full size images showing how much the HTC One sucks compared to a myriad of other phones, especially the S4. From resolution to exposure to grain to text legibility to indoor shots to even night shots. The S4 even takes far better pics than the Xperia Z, and it has the same Sony sensor! Some say its a combination of the crappy water/dust proof lense Sony is using, and their terrible camera software. Samsung just uses it way better. Oh, I have to reiterate how much the HTC One camera sucks. I've written dissertations on how much it sucks, sprinkled around this forum. They are out there somewhere...

If you can wait a little longer, the Motorola X (or the next Nexus) is supposedly gonna be a stellar camera phone, as in they are focusing specifically on a great camera, unlike the joke of a thing HTC slapped on the One and kept boasting about with fancy pointless marketing contrivances. If you can wait even longer til near the end of the year, The Nokia Lumia EOS Pureview 1000 or whatever it will be called will be far superior to everything on the market. I dunno when you will want to get your phone, but as of right now and the coming couple months, the S4 is the phone to beat as far as camera quality. I am rocking a Note 2 and have no interest in the current crop of phones. I want a real Pureview upgrade. It's a Windows Phone so that may be a dealbreaker for you, ....or not. It depends on how obsessive you are for camera quality.

Shove that DSLR up yer butt! :p Great colonoscopy pics.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] omersak:
ok.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joslicx:
No not S4; iphone5 is the phone to beat as far as camera is concerned as proved by the blind test on phonearena.

what a poor poor effort from samsung. not even able to beat last years apple phone haha total fail S4 is
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djbenny1:
Links to your Flickr, Picasa or other photo host please?

A photography expert like you must take cracking photos!?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tetsumi06:
I just decided he wasn't worth replying to. When you feed the trolls all they do is get fatter, lazier and more self important.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Florin82:
+1. Do not feed the little troll! :D He thrives if you give him attention and contradiction. It is better to leave him alone with his frustrations, he will wither away.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StuartTheFish:
I assume it's not me you're talking about? :)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tetsumi06:
Currently thinking that I really should get out for a decent walk and take the phone with me. It's a bit cold out but the last few days have been beautiful otherwise.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vegalinho:
Pretty sick, but there gotta be something wrong with the S3, just sounds horrible.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
yeah even my iPhone 4 can record audio 10 times better than that and its a much older phone. Doesn't look like they were even that close to the speaker so for it to sound that blown out is surprising.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diggedy:
I must say my daylight pictures have been as good as my hox, low light has been terrible but I haven't spent much time with it, a camera on a phone for me is just more for social media than anything serious, I'm a photographer so I have dslrs if I really need a good picture.

Has anyone tried video in a loud place? With my hox, in a club or concert the sound would be really muffled.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] starbase64:
All pics without EXIF data...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basil3:
Why not go hang out in the Note 2 section, you've made your point multiple times, and nobody really cares. In fact, I didn't even read your post, but I know it will be slagging the One's camera, or construction, or screen, or whatever else you feel like moaning about.

FWIW, I sold my note 2 to get the One, and the only thing I found more beneficial to me on the note 2 was the battery life. This was a price I was willing to pay and I don't regret it one bit.

I still have no idea why this thread is open. The OP could have found all the info he needed in existing threads.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Florin82:
Of course not you. There are certain characters that keep popping around here. Maybe they don't have anything better to do, but still....
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sashtheflash:
AW: Is the camera really as bad as the reviews say?

IT isn't . Very low light without flash:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john291:
Amazing picture:good:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
This really is a good example on how good it is. Do you see noise? I know I don't. That's amazing. Most cameras would be full of it. Even the extremely dark areas are just dark. No noise at all. I can't wait to get my hands on this great phone. (:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hunt3r.j2:
Anyone that's noticing noise in their photos should try using night mode. Lower shutter speed but you will get much nicer photos.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neroke55:
Ynt: Is the camera really as bad as the reviews say?

I don't like swnsation's camera
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sashtheflash:
AW: Is the camera really as bad as the reviews say?

Yeah. My picture is in night Mode, Too .

Sharpness - 1
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sashtheflash:
AW: Is the camera really as bad as the reviews say?

Heres an other example in daylight. Isnt that bad also.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeneralLee79:
I've been really happy with it so far. When I have enough posts I'll share a few of the pics I've taken.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iamnorthener:
I come from the S3 and find the camera on the One is very good but needs tweaking in certain pictures. One thing I miss is the focus box the S3 had but overall I am impressed. Attached is a photo taken yesterday :o
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gavinfabl:
Answering the title thread. No the camera is not bad is excellent. You can make any boring set of photos exciting with one touch and then share. My HTC One has taken some stunning photos. I've reviewed the One plus camera in my blog. Link in signature.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brillormen:
I get more and more convinced that the camera is a good One. Very nice pic. Thanks. :good:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iamnorthener:
It does take some tweaking for more open landscape shots but I am impressed with the point and shoot quality. May see a theme developing in my shots
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] trukenx:
Horrible thread to get responses

Actually most reviewers after getting over the 4 mp count and the fact that HTC said... it lets in over 200% more Light usually say its awesome.

here is the camera in a nut shell

DAYTIME

-Takes Great daytime Photos great color reproduction without to yellow or blues tints caused be extreme post processing

- Most Stable video recording completely beats the lumia 920 which was the previous benchmark in that category due to its hardware stabilization

- Good daytime video recording with very accurate colors in addition to the first 2 bullets... not the sharpest... but then you could always add an UNSHARPEN MASK to it... as a guy who does a lot of video/photo editing... the least post processing a camera does the better as you would always get a better result from any video editing application... Plus its near impossible to stabilize a shaky video in an app.

NIGHTIME.... this is where the Whole Ultra PIxel thing comes into play

- Takes Great Pictures destroys anything that Comes in its path, in point and shoot.. not setup adjust focus and shoot

- Records Great Videos again Annihilates anything that comes in its path on this one

- and Audio... Lets not get start on that one... its not even in the same category... man versus boys here it kills it here too

This Thread should be Names IS THE HTC CAMERA MORE AWESOME THAN WE EXPECTED IT TO BE

Your Smartphone Camera in the Real World is not just meant to take pictures of flowers and Soda cans you never post those on Facebook, Tumblr etc.. you post the pictures and video of you actively Going out taking videos/day and night... and this Camera Is the Best on a smartphone you could find. Consumers Have Gotten so into this Individual wars to see the big picture here.

HTC ONE is Comparable and Sometimes Better that Other Smartphones in their Best Areas But Non the Other Smartphone Can Compete in The HTC ONE's Best Area...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hamdir:
Just awesome
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brillormen:
I've read part one of your review and I like it a lot. Will read part two now. :) It's interesting to read about your inpressions about the small things too, like how to setup the device, how good the headset is, the details on cables, et cetera. Thanks for sharing.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Iamnorthener:
The camera is important to me also but once you get around all the options I find it captures pictures much better than I hoped. I just opened and clicked with this image which came out very well.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rovex:
The issue seems to me to be software related. If i take pictures with Camera JB+ they are better than the ones i take with the HTC camera. Less noise, better colour balance and better contrast.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richyb86:
This is my favourite pic so far. No tweeking or filter
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xperia23:
OMG you're a legend, i've been looking for this type of test for ages.

Reason I wont buy another Samsung phone is thanks to the Omnia HD..... Supposed to be a HD camera that was by all accounts an abomination in even mediocre light and the sound on the videos was laughable... It sounded like high pass filtered train wreck with everything above 15khz boosted by 12db. aaaaaaand so does the galaxy S3.

What will Samsung do to fix it ? Nothing.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
Sample pics.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
And another
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
This ones in low light, curtains closed with only a small lamp on at the other side of the room.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john291:
This one looks very blurry...:crying:

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This is not the htc one i hope?:eek:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brillormen:
These has like some kind of a milky filter over it. Not so clear and focused.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
Well considering that it's a very low light picture, I think it passes very well. Curtains closed and only a small lamp on the other side of the room.

The low light performance is good but I wouldn't sacrifice normal light performance in favor of better low light shots. No way. Improve low light shots, yes but not at the expense of normal light.

Here's one of buildings in the distance on an overcast day.

The buildings you see are quite far away and it's a very grey day but you can still clearly see the Windows and other small details.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
My other piano with the lamp providing the only light source in the room.

Again I think it's very competent low light performance when you consider the brilliance of the good light photography
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john291:
Sorry to say but this is very bad qaulity.....I thought the htc one was better...

I saw much better pictures from the htc one so maybe your htc one is a faulty one if i where you i would sent it back...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
No it's not, they're low light shots from the Z, they may not be as good as the One but they're very permissible. I'll post some good light shots later and that's where you'll see the big difference. What I'm saying is, I'm not prepared to compromise on normal shots for improved low light photography as I don't spend all my time in the dark.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
Curtains open, lamp off. Not really good light the sun isn't shining but it's better light than the lamp.

So you see, in poor lighting other cameras do also take ok pics. The one's might be better but the fact that it loses out in good lighting makes it weaker overall for me.

I just posted these to show that other cameras are not still in the dark ages as far as poor light photography goes. Some of them do okay in such conditions
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
One last macro, once again curtains closed with only the lamp for lighting
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
Even the the most dedicated htc fan should surely accept that these low light shots I've posted are not a million miles off what you've been getting with the One. The idea that somehow HTC has just cracked a the riddle to the problem of low light photography is just exaggerated to extreme proportions.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Florin82:
Zodiac100, really man, you have already dozens of posts in which you said how your Xperia Z is better in so many ways than the One and how you don't like or need the experience brought by the One. We get it! You like your phone, thats most important thing and its really fine by me. I still don't know why you repeatedly try so hard to bash the HTC One instead of just enjoying your phone as it is. Why is it so important that you feel the need to prove your phone is better?

Anyway i think this thread is going the wrong way, we already have shared photos thread and i think that where we shoult post all the photos taken.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam182:
It would have been a good idea to write that they were taken from the Z and not the One everytime you posted. This thread it about the HTC One so its not ideal to make a whole bunch of posts each with an image not even taken on the One. A single post with a few images and a clear explanation of what the images were taken from would have sufficed.

- Adam
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basil3:
This thread shouldn't even exist and now it's gone way off track
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john291:
pfffff glad its not the htc one:)

sorry i thought it was..because this is the htc one thread
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
In this one you can clearly see the distinct absence of noise. Even the tv box behind is still very clearly visible. Not grainy at all.

So No, I don't believe the talk that the HTC one's camera is in some way clearly superior at non low light photography. It's better but marginally. Also the HTCs has more noise in the background even if foreground images look slightly brighter.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Florin82:
Lol

Didn't know Zodiac100's pictures were all taken with the Xperia Z. I was really starting to worry that the One taking such blurry shots but glad to know thats not the case. Phewww!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] john291:
+1:)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Florin82:
Please man stop posting pictures other than ONE's. You are confusing people! Why on earth are you so eager to prove your phone is so much better! If you are pleased with your Sony thats the most important thing. Enjoy your phone and let others enjoy theirs. Thanks!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
I tried to do that but the xda app wouldn't let me. I don't hate the HTC, I just hate hype, I hated it with the iPhone and I hate now with the HTC One. I only posted these pics so that you guys realize that other cameras also can perform in poor lighting conditions. There's no point having a pics thread without something else to compare against. The one is obviously the best low light performer, but the improvements are not as phenomenal as they've been exaggerated to be.

Objectivity is what I'm asking for and not all this hype! I really hate that. And before anyone calls me a Sony fanboy, if you search my previous posts, you'll find that I've spent most of my time criticising Sony phones. Got many insults from Sony fans and xda bans to prove it.

I just don't like over the top exaggerations and hype. I am a tell it like it is, call a spade a spade kind of chap.

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Self delusion is a very bad thing my friend. A very bad thing indeed.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] richyb86:
Got sent the 4s pic I took as well as my one. Can you guess which is the One....
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joslicx:
so how does HTC sell a flagship with a 4MP camera without creating any hype? All marketing is hype only. The octacore of S4 is hype only. Its not like it is going to cook your dinner and wash your linen now isint it?

and what about the hype created by sony around their "shatterproof" glass. is it really shatterproof???
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
Hype around shatter proof glass? That one's news to me, Sony's always pre applied that sheet to all their phones previously to prevent the glass from flying in all directions should it beak. Apart from that, manufacturers hyping their own products is to be expected but when so called independent tech sites start doing the same thing, then there's a problem.

How many of you in here can honestly say you haven't laughed when you saw or read iPhone reviews in the past. That's the same feeling I'm getting now with HTC One reviews. The lack of objectivity is painful to watch and indeed worrying because I'm starting to suspect that these sites get paid for reviews.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basil3:
a) this doesn't belong in this thread

b) this thread should have been deleted ages ago

c) this phone has lived up to my expectations from reviews I read
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rovex:
First taken with the HTC camera app, the second taken with Camera JB+. Ive only seem them on the phone and my little 11.6inch laptop, so i might not be seeing all the detail, but the JB+ image looks better to me.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bubigrega:
Zodiac100 a troll
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Basil3:
No, it should be deleted because it asks a question that has been answered in other threads. The photo thread has loads of photos posted by one owners. The OP can find his answer there. If he's not happy, then he can post in that thread and/or move on to another forum for a device that does have a camera he likes.

On top of that, a negative thread like this one attracts people like yourself like moths to a flame.

I don't know how many years I've been on xda, but I've only ever started one thread. Mainly because I've found all my answers by using the search button or asking questions in relevant threads.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brillormen:
The camera is important for me too and I was very uncertain about it's quality before. Therefore I read many reviews and threads about the picture quality. I still believe that my iPhone 4S and the SGS4 overall takes better day time pictures, but it's clearly that the One beats them when it comes to low light pics.

If I could choose I would rather see an ordernary 8 pixel camera in the One, because of the lack of details when zooming in. I mostly take pictures in the daytime and a lot of them are nature pics. It's nice to be able to zoom, even though I don't do that so often, and it's also nice like to be able to see details.

But after watching many pics from the One in the other photo thread I think it is an perfectly okay camera that is able to capture good quality pictures. I don't think it's the best camera of them all, but good enough, and it can take some really stunning pics if I put some effort in learning how the cam works.

That's enough for me, because I like it so much in every other way. The camera was the only part I've had doubts about, because everything else freaking blew me away. I love the design, blinkfeed, the display, the FM radio, the speakers, Zoe and the new Sense, and I really do understand the hype, because the phone is georgeous. Not perfect, but there's no such phone. There's some kind of compromise in all of them.

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(Sorry for editing so much. I haven't wrote in English for ages. I suck at it. ;) nowadays, but will hopefully improve after a while. ;))
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jotha:
Thread closed

All that needed to be said is said, and much more. As this mutated to a trollfest (which was to be expected) and there are several camera threads, I close this now.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Abhinav1997:
Disclaimer:

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XDA:DevDB Information

Xperia Neo/Arc to Ray ROM porter, a Tool/Utility for the Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Active

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Status: Stable

Created 2013-09-28

Last Updated 2013-12-11
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ™ God ™:
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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Abhinav1997:
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Best Regards,

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] yeubacgiang:
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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Abhinav1997:
Re: [TOOL] Xperia Neo/Arc to Ray automatic ROM porter.

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] deemanthax:
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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] mathewgx:
I tried to port an arc rom. The program created only 2 folders , name lib and semc (system / user)

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Abhinav1997:
Re: [TOOL] Xperia Neo/Arc to Ray automatic ROM porter.

I didn't get u any screens??

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[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Abhinav1997:
Re: [TOOL] Xperia Neo/Arc to Ray automatic ROM porter.

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