yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
Using KT kernel and settings recommended on the first page.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
Something is definitely not right here. :eek:

S4 is poppin!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
One of these posts is not like the other, one of these posts just doesn't belong...

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I'm seeing reports of 4.3 for GE devices having major issues like lockout from being able to enter pin on lock screen and boot loop issues. I know mike just won't release anything like that, but it seems like its quite random as far as who its happening to. Maybe 4.3 is a can of worms right now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
1. My reply of something is wrong: I said that because he only has 17 mins of screen time and down to 59% or whatever was in the picture. So that's not right...

2. Yes 4.3 has lots of bugs, just like when 4.0 was released.

S4 is poppin!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
;):cool:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Hey, guys. Running this ROM and recently flashed the new bootloader and modem. My torch is broken now and I can't remember the last time I used it, so I'm not sure if it's from the ROM or from the updates. Any ideas?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jasvncnt1:
Not sure I can help at all. Im on the latest and my torch works fine. I cant see a modem having anything to do with the torch. When you flashed the ROM did you do clean or dirty?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Clean, of course. Actually now that I think about it I used my torch yesterday morning, flashed the modem and bootloader about noon, and my torch didn't work last night.

Edit: Now I'm no Dev, but I have a theory that it may be directly related to my camera not functioning since the BL/Modem updates because of the connection between the camera and the LED that serves as flash and Torch.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
My bootloader and modem updates don't affect the camera at all. My camera and torch work fine on this ROM. Do a full backup in recovery and wipe /system, /data, and /cache, then reinstall the ROM and GApps. If your camera now suddenly works, you've got something in your old /data that's breaking it.

You can use Nandroid Manager to pull specific apps and settings out of the old backup once you get things working.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Is wiping those things the same as just a standard wipe in TWRP or would I have to do something different?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
Standard wipe in TWRP.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Well, I did a full wipe again and it still isn't working...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Skyrec:
Beta bugs?

well the bug list in the post is utterly useless... does anybody know the issues with the 2.1 beta and 2.5 beta?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
A few things to check:

Does your Camera app work?

Are you installing the GApps package listed in the first post?

Are you using a different kernel than the one that came with the ROM?

If you installed the wrong GApps, the best way to fix that is to wipe /system, install the ROM, and install the correct GApps. Your /data should be able to be left alone.

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2.1 works great for 99% of us, and 2.5 isn't out yet.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Skyrec:
going from v2 to 2.1... is it full wipe or only flash rom and then gapps?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
I don't think it needed a wipe, but all you have to do is install ROM + GApps and then see if it works. If not, then wipe /data. (After backing it up so you can pull stuff out with Nandroid Manager!)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Skyrec:
Gapps link not working

cant find slimroms gapps anywhere, links are the same, they all redirect to a broken page
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jasvncnt1:
http://www.slimroms.net/index.php/downloads/dlsearch/viewcategory/383-addons/downloads
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Camera app opens, but then I get can't connect.

Slim ROMs AIO gapps.

iX kernel.

I'll tinker around some more and see what happens.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
My camera doesn't work with iX kernel either. How about you try not flashing that?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Will do, my friend. I'll report back in a few.

Edit: All I did was flash an old version of BMS and it fixed the problem. Camera and Torch both work now.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] x0ne215:
Glad the problem is fixed, KT kernel works great too (both Torch & Camera work) if you wanted a different kernel.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I'm about to flash BionicSheep, actually. The Dev has been helping me out quite a bit lately, so I at least owe him some testing.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
How did bionic sheep work for you?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
It's going pretty well. If you look at his thread I posted my battery life. I'll post up some more realistic ones in a few hours.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vwlover69:
Anyone know where the Amber Alert settings are for this ROM?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ryankgrant:
Lol,

Pretty sure that's a carrier thing not a ROM thing. I got a lot of them recently and it just stopped on its own.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I tried to look through everything and find it for you, but I can't find it. What exactly is it?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vwlover69:
It is supposed to be in the messenger settings, but it's not there.

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Amber Alerts are messages sent out for missing children in the US.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
Try under network settings.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ryankgrant:
Yeah man, I googled it because I'm interested in the answer myself. I couldn't find it either. I think we just have to take it on this release Lol. Just be glad its not your kid missing.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Its in there some where... Hang on I'll message Ramsay see if remembers.

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Try in security settings, that was his suggestion.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dotnetguyaz:
Hmmmm... Your name looks familiar. :)

sent from my SGH-I747 (10.2 build)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
This is where the Amber Alert (and other emergency notification) options are on 4.3. Those options don't exist in 4.2 AFAIK, which means you're stuck with them for now... Until the next update... ;)

EDIT: Google Now also has settings related to "Public alert" notifications. I doubt that's what you're looking for though.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
waiting for a purple themed update....:laugh:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] joshuagalipeau:
having charging problems, battery goes down if I'm using the phone even of its plugged in
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
It's coming and it looks really nice!

S4 is poppin!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
Sounds like you've got app problems. Fix Permissions from recovery and remove apps you don't need/use.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
any chance of getting a screenie?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
I'll post some after work bro

S4 is poppin!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
You guys are awesome. Have a good day at work. I know I'm trying to.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] nelmaster_vc:
Waiting for ILIUSION 3 with android 4.3 :highfive::good::fingers-crossed:

What thinks >??
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vwlover69:
Subtle. :)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jasvncnt1:
I think it will be released when it's ready. Mike's very busy but never disappoints. But this ROM as is is just awesome. Maybe its just me...but I'm not so excited about 4.3.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I have to agree with you. This ROM is fantastic right now. And as far as I can tell 4.3 doesn't bring anything new. It just has the appeal of being out of reach.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
4.3 is actually impressive. I was running straight cm for a little and surprisingly it ran well and seemed faster... The new camera apk "focal" I think its called, is impressive and over all felt snappier/quicker then what I remembered 4.2.2 feeling like. Given I haven't ran AOSP in about a month. Either way Ramsay is working on it, with what ever spare time he has, we chat here and there and he is working on it. I promise he's not just sitting around laughing at you guys while he plays with 4.3 on his phone lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dotnetguyaz:
I'm running 10.2 on mine now while waiting for Ramsey to get his first build out. Honestly, I don't want to ever go back to 4.2.2. Granted, there isn't too much on the surface in terms of changes, but my S3 hasn't ever run this smoothly. I can only imagine how much better it'll be with Ramsey's optimizations.

Oh, hey ya mt3g. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Agreed, enough source gets put into the HTC One so I can run it over there also. ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dotnetguyaz:
You're not running GPE on the HTC One? For shame! ;)

And uh, you're not even going to say hi? It's only been 3 years! LOL (Hint: I still have Energy running on my HD2... hahaha)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
I don't have it yet, probably this weekend though. And I never owned an HD2 lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dotnetguyaz:
Weren't you back in the Energy forums years ago??? I could swear I remember you. Maybe not... crap. Maybe senility finally set in. *shrug* LOL

I'm thinking about throwing GPE on my wife's HTC One to see how well it does. I would love to see Ramsey have some fun with that device too...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Negative sir, g1>mt3g>g2x>sgs3

Word and he has a guy working on illusion over there already, he kinda took it upon himself and Ramsay jumped in and told him to make it official, the dude has about 18threads sporting illusion all over this forum lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dotnetguyaz:
NOOO!!! It was from the mt3g forums!!! (My first Android phone :))... I knew I remembered!

Yeah, I saw a few of the threads. Looks really promising. Ramsey is still once of my favourite devs, hands down. I've thought about approaching him and see if I could do a spin off for my Tab2. *sigh* One can dream. LOL [Totally hoping he'll poke his head in now lol]
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Lol, my name stayed since I got the device lol. Didn't join in the G1 days cause I was scurred lol.

PM me bout the other portion of topic since we're already off topic ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
Ahem ahem ;)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
Freakin awesome looking. Quick question, is the hour alignment in the clock fixed?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] itsmikeramsay:
Almost there guys. Been super busy with real estate stuff but 4.3 is almost there. I'm literally ironing out the later portion of compiling now. Mostly settings and frameworks. Change log is what it is... Nothing has changed.

It will be an alpha though. We'll work on getting it together for s3 and s4 devices. We've got maintainers that will be doing others. Its coming peeps. .. Really soon.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] johnnywayne28:
Just read in their changlog that focal is running
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mumbo jumbo:
Flashed google voice dialer. System asks for permission each time. How can I either turn it off or grant permission always? I thought it was in privacy but its not.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] caulton:
Can't wait to try the next release
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] trh1341:
This will be the first time I try illusion! I hope its coming soon! I'm excited!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] rani9990:
What took you so long? Lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
That's what I though. Lmao.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
Did you sort out the Bluetooth bug that's been around for ages? (Have to force close "Bluetooth Share" to actually turn off Bluetooth.)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I actually haven't had problems with that in a long time. Just pause the music first. If that doesn't work, manually end the connection, then turn it off. Those are how I fixed it when I had problems on AOCP.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
The issue I've had is that when I turn off my car, the music is paused automatically (and of course the connection is terminated, because the stereo is now off) but then when I get back in the car later, the phone refuses to connect unless I cycle Bluetooth off/on, and it won't turn off until I FC the Bluetooth Share app. I still have this problem nearly daily. Hopefully the updated BT stack in 4.3 doesn't have the same issues.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I do the same thing. Bluetooth in the car multiple times a day. Even if I just leave it on, it still works fine. My music doesn't get paused automatically, though. It still thinks it's playing through the car for a minute or so after I shut the car off.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
Mine does the same thing sometimes. When I tried out 4.3 (unofficial CM10.2) for a day, it seemed to work alright, but I couldn't stand being without the customization options that Illusion has. It was the first time since I had Touchwiz that the pause button on my stereo actually worked though, and track titles were passed to the stereo properly (finally!) so hopefully the next Illusion version should work better too.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Lol I wish I had any of those features. I guess the stock Bluetooth options in my Kia Forte don't support anything. I can start and end calls. That's it. The display just says mp3 and can't skip tracks.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] trh1341:
I'm not really sure! But I'm excited:)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
You definitely should be able to skip tracks using the same back/next keys for CDs, although the current (terrible) implementation of AVRCP might be the culprit there. Android 4.3 comes with full AVRCP 1.3 support, meaning full two-way communication between the stereo and the mobile device. If you still can't skip tracks after the update, you might wanna talk to your Kia dealership.

I use an aftermarket JVC stereo, and with 4.2 I can still skip tracks, I just don't get any info on the display and can't pause playback from the headunit.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
Hmm. Well, I'll definitely look into it. I've been thinking about getting CM 10.2 just to see what's improved until this update rolls out.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] x0ne215:
Been using CM 10.2 as a daily for a few days now. Nothing really noticeable for the average user. Maybe some optimization tweaks. Still have a few bugs to work out for our device though, such as focal.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
I've heard it's just very fast and smooth. That definitely matters to me.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] x0ne215:
I don't notice a difference from being on Illusion 2.1 prior to flashing cm 10.2, seem the same speed to me (scrolling, loading, app loading, etc).
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Rokonacdc:
What about battery life? That's the biggest influence on which ROMs I run.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] x0ne215:
That's become one of my bigger influences recently :P.

It's pretty damn good, currently running the 8/11 CM 10.2 w/ Bionic Sheep beta 4 or 5 I think (which ever was out yesterday at about 1pm EST). Custom settings as seen in thread, been on battery since 9am (over 8 hours) with moderate usage today, sitting at 60%.

I had better life on illusion, but that was with KT kernel and more refined battery settings.

However I still like the battery life on CM 10.2, it's not bad :good:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
Does anyone have v 1.0 beta? I would love to run that on my gfs phone until the update. She likes ribbons and halo together. Thanks

Edit: its on goo.im. nvm
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] joeygee23:
Hello all....my phone only rings 3 times on incoming calls....is there a setting to fix this?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
That is an option through my wireless account when I sign in to check my messages. Perhaps it is for you too
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vwlover69:
I hope the update fixes my loss of data connection problems. I love this ROM.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] vvelvetelvis:
aanticiationnnnnnnnn... its making me waitl.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] joeygee23:
I belive I do at hope. I miss the ribbons as well.

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Belive I do at home
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
removed
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Where are you getting this from?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
So you got Illusion up and running and booting before mike?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Sajoeee:
I think he's saying he got a 4.3 ROM to boot over a 4.2.2 ROM.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
I was pretty sure he was something to that nature, unfortunately its not a smart statement. What ever ROM he did that too probably slim or CM which have all the same stuff in them as they did before basically will have little issues doing so. Unfortunately Illusion is going new base kinda and a lot different from other kind of ROMs. Not saying it won't boot as I've booted cm on top of a 4.1 touchwiz ROM before and that ended with a fresh wipe quick lol. Just saying that 4.2 to 4.3 I and many others will recommend a full wipe and restoring system apps will more than likely cause a fail as well. :-/
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
I honestly would never recommend dirty flash. There are backup apps that make it so easy to get back all your settings, so why risk having little glitches confound the upgrade?

Titanium backup & chainfire's helium are my favorite
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
To be frank and blunt cause people are lazy. Ramsay has spent countless hours trying to get a build to build without errors and has yet to achieve so, and when it finally boots I'll test and test and test along with others until we feel its solid enough for a release and then we ask users to follow simple steps to assure a great experience with the ROM only to get people doing it different and reporting negative feedback which is usually untrue and user error making people not choose this ROM and so on and so on. It takes me 20 minutes to set up my ROM after it is all booted and then 10 more minutes to make all custom changes to make it my ROM (one could say, considering all the great options in Illusion) so 45 minutes total to set up a ROM compared to Ramsay's 3 weeks minimum worth of work... Cmon just follow procedure and thank Ramsay.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] radtech777:
Mt3g, I'm not even on this rom right now, but what you said is so true that you ought to be thanked.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
You're right, and I apologize for the post. And yes, it was a CM10.2 base. It also chewed through my battery in under an hour from 60% charge, and that was after I wiped /data. At this point, my battery is still not wanting to charge properly. (This is one of the reasons I'm glad I didn't share the attempted port.)

I was out of line and I apologize.

I would've replied sooner, but I wasn't home and my device is still refusing to charge. (Yes, I've restored my 4.2 backup.)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
No need to apologize dude, I stepped in just to alert those just in case. I'm on 10.2 as well waiting for Ramsay patiently as well. My battery is doing pretty well surprisingly. I'll be able to test it fully Friday or over the weekend when not at work (I get the worst signal at work ever) so battery drains cause of looking for signal. Battery seems pretty good overall though.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
I'm sure "stock" CM10.2 works great, but I loaded my /system up with parts from the current Illusion release (knowing quite well that they were designed for 4.2, not 4.3) and it booted up and ran for a bit until the battery decided to crap out. I didn't have this issue with the unofficial CM10.2 that was posted a couple days ago, so I'm sure it's something I did wrong.

I'm now patiently awaiting Mike's build. (And hoping my phone eventually charges up enough to boot.)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Ya restoring things like that was a huge culprit. I can attest that Ramsay is currently working on it every chance he gets guys, he's busy all day long it seems. He's dedicated to getting his 4.3 to build before he flashes any others lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] tobesedated:
They way I look at it may be simple, may be wrong but when there's a os upgrade not a tweak released, I treat it like it's a new baby. It gets a brand new fresh start. No dirty nothing. Then I figure every new one is different and while Mike got things working beautifully on 4.3's brother, the old stuff needs to learn the new rules to play nicely with this snappy new fellow. So not only is the os new, it's like a whole new beginning for all those huge amounts of wonderful tweaks Mike throws in. I have faith from Mike's post genius that this new baby is gonna be a rock star!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] XxSTEROIDxX:
Any news on an update yet?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mt3g:
Not yet
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] UnicOrnseeD:
The longer it takes, the better you can guarantee Mike and the team are making illusion. A lot of hard work is going into these things. Keeps my phone awesome.

I'm wondering if there's more Google Now integration in 4.3
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Tunasty:
Where have you been bro
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] dstruct2k:
Agreed. :)

Not that I've seen; They could just update it through the Play Store anyway, the only new framework features of note in 4.3 are notification handlers and better AVRCP Bluetooth, neither of which affect Google Now.