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[Nexus 4 General] :
Hi,

For sure if your room temperature is high your phone will runs hotter... But it's not directly related to the Nexus 4... it's the same thing for any phones.

The last summer with my SIII (wich had "normal" temperatures) ran hotter, normal thing. But we can't speak about overheating from the phone itself.

Undervolting can help a little, but I'm not sure. I have almost the same temperatures with the same use with a friend of mine, the same kernel and same CPU settings (except for the undervolting at -100mV). It was just a little test for about 15 mins, maybe not very reliable but his temperature was about 2 °C lower. Yes it's a gain but for me nothing very important...

For people that are stressed about temperature there is also this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2144652

In my opinion, use your phone like you want, in any case there is some thermal protections so no worries.

And after / while playing a game for example (like browsing also) it's absolutely normal to have high temperatures... If you permanently have a CPU temp at 65°C and a battery temp at 45°C in idle or light use, yeah here there is a problem... some apps can use the CPU in background at a high level for example. You use your phone just for add a widget and you'll see the four cores online at the higher freq... there is something wrong. I remember had the case with Nova launcher once, with an old version, for some reasons Nova launcher used suddenly 98 % of my CPU at 1.51 Ghz... heat in 1 minute :eek: but it was not directly related to the phone... can not blame the Nexus 4.

And in all the threads here I never see an abnormal temperature or a temperature as "overheating", this word is misused. Hot maybe, hotter than another phone maybe also, overheating... I definitely do not think.

:)
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
Re: Nexus 4 Temperature's

I try to explain to everyone that has a nexus 4. If the nexus 4 does get really hot it will reboot as a safety precaution .
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
You do realize that the CPU temperature isn't the main problem here?

The n4's battery gets quite hot and that's what causes the throttling.
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
Re: Nexus 4 Temperature's

Thus the under volting :)
[Nexus 4 General] ykit88:
Here is Malaysia, the weather could not be better...
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
What are the temperatures their ? Is there humidity ?
[Nexus 4 General] jonathan3579:
A couple nights ago my Nexus 4 got up to 107°F (not doing anything but normal browsing) and my rubber case shrunk because of it. It's now a total pain to remove and clean the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
The battery or CPU ?
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
first off, rubber holds in heat, the phone cant cool off. secondly, 107F isnt hot, 107F water will feel warm to the hand.
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
That's exactly why I have a bumper case :)
[Nexus 4 General] doubleatheman:
Never dropped my phone, but I still don't trust myself. I feel sorry for my phone sometimes when it gets hot and I have a case on that won't let it breath.
[Nexus 4 General] jonathan3579:
Any idea what Battery Widget Reborn gets the temperature from?

Right, I knew that but this was excessively hot. I'm saying that's the temperature although that's according to the temp mentioned above. I can assure you that once the phone was pulled from the case, it was burning hot and even people around me were curious as to how "hot" it was.
[Nexus 4 General] ykit88:
Back Cover is not expensive, but the front you need to change the entire screen.

In my country LG service do support the phone.

---------- Post added at 09:53 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:47 AM ----------

I just fall down accidentally and damage one corner of my N4. You can gamble for using it naked... which i regretted badly :(
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
That sucks :/ That's why I always have case on mine, even though when it's naked it's probably the best looking phone.
[Nexus 4 General] kyokeun1234:
Nice to know that my Nexus 4 is doing fine. It felt like Nexus 4 was as hot as galaxy Nexus... But I guess I was wrong... Clicked thanks for ya!
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
No problem. Any other phones you want me the stress test ??

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] ykit88:
S3....vs N4
[Nexus 4 General] dia_naji:
I actually did a comparison in my OP
[Nexus 4 General] jonapunk:
I'd say the same thing about the back it draws heat away from the processor and we feel it on the glass front and back.

On other phones you usually only feel it in the screen or right above battery on back. Doesn't get as hot to the touch meaning the heat is trapped in the phone. This is just an opinion based on how I use to build computers and how liquid cooling works by drawing heat away from processors
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkys:
Battery temp.

hey,

i loved your apt reply.

will be glad if you throw some light on this.

I'm using dashclock lock screen widget and the ideal temperature it shows is 32-39C (assuming it is the battery temp or whatever that app shows ) while using photosphere and camera for quite sometime my phone batt or cpu or whatever temperature ( the app displayed ) showed 48-49C. and the dashclock widget shows status : overheating.

please note that the temp. outside is 35C . you think this is the battery temp that app shows and whatever temp. it is is this normal for a new phone ? i mean its quite warm when i make calls and stuff.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
that sounds like cpu temp. i use photosphere a lot, and its normal for the cpu/phone to warm up. itll cool down rather fast too, when you stop using the cam/photosphere. its 35C around you, so i wouldnt be concerned. id ignore the dashclock lockscreen widget. im sure that it was made for a full spectrum of devices, not just the n4, so it probably just shows a general warning.
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkys:
hey thanks man.

i moved from Symbian nokia x6 to n4. its like out from the woods from me although i have used other phones just this heating thing was new to me. i thought some faulty handset. anyway thanks for your input. *thumbs up*

i guess 50C during extreme gaming and what not shouldn't be a problem. i have heard htc one x used to get heated up but not samsung i mean temp. would be high but the heat is not felt something like that. aluminum cases help in such cases ?
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
my galaxy nexus and nexus 7 actually get much hotter than my nexus 4, and faster. the nexus 7 has a thick plastic back, and generally hangs out between 45-60C with normal usage, and the gnex between 40-50C with normal usage. the nexus 4 feels like its warmer, but thats only because of the glass back. the glass back is made for the easy escape of heat for the n4 cpu(and battery).

i think any kind of case for the n4(besides bumper) will hold in the heat and let the n4 get even warmer. aluminum is better than rubber or plastic though.
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkys:
i have this case for my nexus 4. should i keep it on or remove it or replace with some other one ?
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
thats your choice. if you feel that it is making your phone get to hot, and youre uncomfortable with it, see what the temps are like without a case first. if they are much lower, find another case. ive never used cases, all my devices are naked. i like how they feel better that way :)
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
With franco latest and uv -100mV i had no problem with temperature only when charging-using the phone!
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
99% of the people posting about problems with heat dont actuslly have a problem with temperatures, the problem is only in their mind.
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
This is my first phone with +1 core so i cant be sure if its normal or not on my old android or iphone i never feel nothing!until now only my 2nd day with n4 i only feel hot when talking to phone while charging!it hurt a bit on my face but i didnt die! :p
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
the only reason you really feel it is because of the glass. but feel isnt a temperature reading either. if your skin is cooler, it will feel warmer, if your skin is warmer, itll feel cooler, while being at the same temperature.
[Nexus 4 General] benzben228:
I have pretty good temp using bricked kernel.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2056527
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkys:
guys just a small petty query.

whenever i update my status through nexus 4 it doesn't mention below that it has been updated ' via nexus 4 '

is there any way to do that ?

i see people using sony phones can do that then why can't we ?
[Nexus 4 General] pikachukaki:
I didn't think about the glass you right! Anyway as I write before the phone didn't warm much maybe stock kernel have problem but with custom your good to go!
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
update your status where?
[Nexus 4 General] ajinkys:
Update on Facebook !
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
oh, i dont know. i dont use the facebook app.
[Nexus 4 General] jpeterson066:
My nexus 4 doesn't get nearly as hot as my old at&t galaxy s2, thing used to damn near burn my hand lol
[Nexus 4 General] Beremus:
I did experienced some issues with the temperature of the device. The processor went to 56 degree celcius without crashing. But since I updated my kernel (Franco) + changed my ROM (CM10.1 to PAC) and UV my phone, I never felt any hot temperature with the device at all. In fact, the CPU don't go higher than 36 degree celcius.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
it didnt crash at 56C because 56C is normal. and im sure that your cpu has gone over 36C after. if it hasnt, then thats not normal. or, you dont do anything intensive on your device, or medium intensive. considering that body temp is 37C, you are probably not pushing your device at all(or you live inside a fridge).
[Nexus 4 General] Beremus:
Playing games, Facebook, Chrome and messaging all day long. I just got 41C, the higher I got since I UV my phone. I don't why it keep it so low, but it feel really nice.
[Nexus 4 General] guru_urug:
Hey Fellas,

I recently(last week) purchased my nexus 4 16GB. I am totally in awe of this magnificent phone. I just want to post my stability test result to make sure that all is well. I live in India so the ambient temperatures are higher this part of the world.

Everything is on stock, ROM and kernel

Stability Test

(All temperatures in degree Cel)

Room Temp: 31

Battery:

Idle Temp: 31.8

After 15 min Classic Stability Test: 45.8

CPU:

Idle Temp: 42

After 15 min Classic Stability Test: 71

Is this ok?

I am using a s-line TPU case, similar to the Mercury TPU case in the US. Phone was placed on a wooden table with brightness set to 40% and screen on continuously.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
normal. it would probably be just a little cooler without a case.
[Nexus 4 General] guru_urug:
Thanks, simms22

I dont know if this link(below) has been posted earlier but, it gives a good idea of what the relative temperatures of 5 phones running stability test: LG Nexus 4, Sony Xperia Z, Samsung Galaxy S 3, Meizu MX2, Sony Xperia T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVOVpv2y9Zk

I was most interested in the comparison between the Nexus 4 and the xperia Z since they have similar specifications with same SOC and amount of RAM. Also both have glass at the back and voila, both perform nearly the same :) Infact the Xperia Z underclocks to as much as 702Mhz to maintain temperatures.

I have compiled below a brief synopsis of the video (attached img)

As can be seen, the nexus 4 has higher temperatures, but is also running at a higher clock frequency which explains the higher temperatures. The good part is that the Nexus did very well in the benchmarking aspect of this test. The scores are number of runs per core and RAM(core 1, core 2, core 3, core 4, RAM). The Nexus has more runs and hence is better.
[Nexus 4 General] mharis05:
I'm so sorry for my ignorance but can someone confirm that Nexus 4 is "usable" in terms of heat with stock settings?

I do not own this phone but I am planning to buy one next week.

I have been reading about this "overheating" issue for like 3 hours now and all over the internet I have seen people complaining, including things like "Even making a call > 15 mins makes the phone so hot that it is difficult to hold or kept touch with your ear!!". If it is true then it can't be acceptable for anyone

Some people also called it a preventive measure to not play games etc when the phone is charging. I don't consider this practical even, I'm buying a better phone to increase my possibilities not to restrict myself! :(

A normal user shall browse, play and listen using his/her smartphone, even though I accept the powerful processor may heat up, but these activities are not even worth so much "heat", are they?
[Nexus 4 General] Beremus:
Undervolt and you will not feel any heat from the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] abaaaabbbb63:
I didn't have any overheating problems since I got this phone, even when playing heavy games. It just slightly heated a bit.

I don't know how those people are using their phones, but they are doing something wrong.

While charging, the battery gets hot, even if you don't use the phone. That's how electricity works. It's a normal thing to happen.
[Nexus 4 General] mharis05:
Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] aviz1911:
If you take your nexus 4 to a main road at 1'o clock, with an IRON MAN case and

play NFS game in it with full graphics for 30 min in india(of course we have 47 degrees temperature). Then the kind of feeling you get when you touch the back of your phone removing the case is called OVERHEATING. :p A nice OMLET does the trick :p

40-50 degrees CPU temperature while surfing, chatting and 35-40 degrees battery temperature is not at all overheating.

I undervolted -100 still i have 42 degrees on my CPU :confused: It's india :cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] vivekananthan:
Is it overheating ?

Good to see someone from India is really here to clarify my doubts. I am a newbie with Nexus 4 and got it 2 days back, I feel my phone gets overheated when I was in call for some 20 to 30 mins (this usually happens when you are with customer care of either airtel/snapdeal or anyone for that sake)

I ran stability tests and it returned 47 degree celsius after 15 mins. I keep screen on and off few times in between. Is that the normal temperature?

Also while talking on the call, suddenly the phone speaker got buzzing sound and it never stopped, I have to restart the phone by long holding the power button? Is there any fix that can be done to fix it? I got this phone from US through my friend so doesn't cover the warranty I hope unless I send it back through another friend to US?

Thanks a lot. Awaiting your reply.
[Nexus 4 General] aviz1911:
47 degrees is normal temperature. Don't Freak out :D Just more than our body temperature. The only thing you should remember is "If nexus 4 gets overheats, It will shutdown automatically. After all it's a Smartphone :p "

And about that buzzing sound, Contact LG if possible. LG officially launched Nexus 4 in india :good: and we will get some Official Support.

Happy to help !!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] vivekananthan:
Thanks a lot for your reply. Would see if I can contact LG and what they can say about it.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] Hemanthbr:
How did you measured the system temperature.. Nexus 4 doesn't have any sensor for measuring "system temp" .. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
probably meant cpu temo
[Nexus 4 General] captain67:
Haven't had any temp issues here. In fact, my N4 runs way cooler than my S2 did and my sisters Gnex

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
lol, ive been telling people that my gnex runs hotter than my n4. the only difference os that you feel it more in the n4, because of the glass back. my n7 runs the hottest though.
[Nexus 4 General] starfarer:
It's not only the back. Even on front it's get to point where talking on earpiece is a struggle.Though have to admit that the new one from RMA is not feeling that much warmer.
[Nexus 4 General] Hypoxic1:
It seems like my Ringke Fusion case retains heat. Is this right? Or is it absorbing the heat and dissipating it better?

It's been getting warmer much easier now that it is summer.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
generally, cases keep the heat in, dont let it cool down as fast. even in the winter, the phone will average a little higher in temp with a case on. now, there are different types of cases, some better and some worse when it comes to keeping the heat in. one way around this is to use a bumper instead of a full case.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] kevincw01:
He's selling his service of installing it. I think it's wrong but unsure if theres any type of license that prevents it. He's even using the main page's graphic on his auction webpage.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3065970009&category=15044&sspagename=rvi:1:3
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] tenzin:
Attention !!!! XDA II is in the list of phones he is supposed able to unlock !!! , and he ask people to send their phones to be unlock ...Good Greaf ! I'll never send my phone !!! people are not going to have them back !!!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] Carlos:
I see nothing wrong with that. I've charged my clients for my time to upgrade their devices and unlock them, same as I've done for phones before the PPC. There are a lot of phone unlocking services out there.

This guy is doing it cheap though, I'd charge more.
[General Questions and Answers] segads:
I never use that app!!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] panther90:
Need some help. Rooted Sprint Note 2 with Galaxy Note 2 Toolkit V3.0. Installed TWRP recovery and made backup. Tried a few different roms (AOKP,Carbon) and few different gapps and I can not get a custom rom to install. Every time I try I get stuck at boot. I have allowed 15 minutes, I have wiped data, cache and dalvik each time. The build is JZO54K 4.1.2 Any help would sure be appreciated.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skripka:
First things first. Have you verified md5 sums on the roms you downloaded. First guess would be a corrupt download.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] panther90:
Unsure how to do that?

Downloaded from Goo.im and through Goo Manager if that matters but I do not know how to verify them? Md5 sums are like numbers that authenticate download?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] billard412:
If you are using goo manager than the md5 is fine. Goo manager automatically checks that and deletes it if its bad.Try flashing this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2086769 and if it still wont boot flash a stock rom in odin with repartition checked. (youll need a pit file) .
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] panther90:
Thanks Guys

Thanks for your help guys. Was going to flash back to stock but first I downloaded Busybox from market and did the custom install. That did the trick. Almost like the toolbox was missing a Busybox file or something? Anyway I did that and flashed as normal with regular boot time. Thanks!
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hidden Username:
Recently, I noticed that 720p recording mode is quite wider than 1080p on my s2. It is simply far superior as it gives more to view. However, I noticed that 1080p makes the camera automatically zoom in and screw up the video by making it zoomed and pixelated.

My question is that 720p "Looks" better but all monitors/tv in my house are 1080p and in the future screens will be even bigger, will my 720p videos look like crap compared to the 1080p ones?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewwright:
Yes . 1080p uses more lines than 720p. Screen on phone means nothing as not hd. You can upscale 720 but better to stick with 1080p. Wonder if the s4 has ultra hd built in as this will hopefully be out later this year . Before you ask it should be one of the two thats bin submitted either 2160p or 4320p. Like hd befor both will get aproval I should think.

Gt i9100

Alliance v7.2

Dorimanx8.11.1

nekf2
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] Jadams3005:
So I recently purchased a broken HTC One X off craigslist for like $150. It came with a cracked screen and I did a bit of research to find the screen replacements were less than $100 shipping incl. Long story short, the screen replacement thing isn't working out. I can't get the new screen to turn on and I keep getting a red LED light when the "phone" gets turned on. I contacted the seller about it possibly being a bad LCD but he claims that I needed to sync the old LCD, but I no longer have that LCD. So, I was wondering if anyone had any help on how to get the screen working.

Second part, the motherboard is fully functional and everything works when its connected to the PC. Just the screen is bad. I was wondering if anyone knew an app to "screen share" between two phones that might work in this situation so I could maybe ghetto rig a webcam or dashcam. Any and all help is appreciated.

Pics attached are the phone in current state.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] TToivanen:
Requested moving to Evita forums.

Sent from my IceCold One X
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] exad:
I'm no engineer but I think you might be SOL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JerseyScottie:
In hopes for the official jelly bean release I reverted to stock and installed the latest update. My question is, will I still be able to root using the same method since the update came with a new modem. Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] Agoattamer:
Yes you can still root the same way. Just install custom recovery via Odin and Superuser via custom recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] btswein:
This. Pushing CWM/TWRP recovery replaces JUST the recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] JerseyScottie:
Awesome, thanks guys
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mathen:
Whats the type of HDMI cable needed for Xperia Z?:confused:
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkKrypt:
A mhl cable

Xperia z does not take micro or mini hdmi cables
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexpraga:
Is it included in the box?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkKrypt:
Depends on the region, but I haven't hard anyone receiving it with the Xperia z
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexpraga:
I've received an hdmi cable with xps, but that's a different type, right?
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badboybiky:
yes you need mhl cable not micro hdmi cable that comes with xperia s
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alexpraga:
Bugger! Just another cable to the collection...
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkKrypt:
As I've posted in the Sony Xperia z cases and covers thread...

Ok so tried the Samsung mhl cable (for the s2)

And Works with the Xperia z.

Tv launcher loads Works fine, so does the home screen. BUT it somewhat lags scrolling through them.

Where as the Xperia s with micro hdmi Works great and smoothly.

I've tried full hd/ 1080p videos; they all run smoothly on the Xperia z via mhl

Also you must plug it into a usb port (for charging) or plug the usb into your tv for the mhl to work

Refer to pic below.

I think there is an issue with the mhl cable (compatibility maybe) or it could be an issue with tv launcher/Home screen app

Who knows maybe Sonys mhl will work better.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] abirjin:
So guys, today I installed slim bean 2.5 on my xperia s using CWM and after installing pressed reboot now, but my phone never powered back on so pressed the power button again and got a light vibration but phone did not come back on.

I held down the power + volume up button till i got 3 vibrations but still phone did not restart

When i connect phone to charger I do not see any notification light.

Guys this phone is my brothers so really nervous about it, please help me out, thanks in advance
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] eduardo_91:
Flashtool

Try flashing a stock firmware in Flashtool, good luck.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] abirjin:
Now downloading the stock firmware using sony update service, will update about the situation when it is done
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] RazorMC:
Update Service with an unlocked bootloader is a bad idea.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] DrKrFfXx:
Try this.

http://developer.sonymobile.com/services/flash-tool/how-to-download-and-install-the-flash-tool/

Official flashtool to go back to stock rom.

And as the guy above told you, SEUS on unlocked bootloader is a bad thing.