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[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Value plans still require 2 year contract

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New plan is cheaper.

I used to be on the 2 year contract classic plan with unlimited minutes, text and 2gb of data for 79.99..

Now with the new plan I can get unlimited mins text and 2.5 gb data for 60$.

20 dollars less and half a gig of data more... I'll take that :)
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Lol... Are u blind? With the new plan... 3 lines UNLIMITED EVERYTHING =150$

please tell me how 150 isn't cheaper then 175
[Nexus 4 General] JAS_21:
I just signed a 2 year deal a couple weeks ago. I got it through the business division (one of the owners at work signed up for a corporate account).

I got the classic 500 minute plan with unlimited text. The data is high speed for 2GB and throttled after. The only perks I can see with the contract is I saved $150 off my Nexus, and T-Mobile will reimburse my termination fee with Verizon up to $150. The fee is actually right around $100 though. If I stayed with Verizon I would have to pay retail for a new device or lose unlimited data, and my bill was about $15 more a month, and I didn't even have unlimited texts.
[Nexus 4 General] DirgeExtinction:
Uh, isn't that $50 plan for their Monthly 4G prepaid? The new plan with unlimited talk/text and 500mb data is for their postpaid customers.
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
Their new plans are the same for prepaid and postpaid(they dropped the monthly 4g name)

He is on an older grandfathered plan
[Nexus 4 General] incantevole:
my wife and i are also on an older plan that is much cheaper than what they offer now. mainly because we have 1000 minutes like you but no text (google voice) and only 2 gig data. if i bump against my minutes i just use free voip on my laptop.

anyway, i am a fan of the model and hope it shakes things up. mobile is too expensive.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
Nope still don't see it.

J/k. Thats better. Yeah that's definitely cheaper.
[Nexus 4 General] Devildog78965:
I signed a 2 year contract at Xmas and I got a n4 for $199 and I pay $99 a month I have unlimited data 15000 minutes unlimited texts will my price change? Thx

sent from my Nexus 4 in Equestria

Click it I dare you?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Lol good! Now go start saving some money
[Nexus 4 General] pak-stars:
what u going to do with 15000 minutes
[Nexus 4 General] Devildog78965:
Its what the plan had so I just kept it that way because I set bit up in a bundle plan thing like a deal plan and if I would have for lower minutes I would still be the same price so I just kept it *shurgs*

sent from my Nexus 4 in Equestria

Click it I dare you?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401
[Nexus 4 General] Dungeon47:
My AT&T bill was $170/mo for two lines with 700 shared and rollover, unlimited text/MMS, and 3GBdata each on a 2-yr contract. T-mo is $120/mo for unlimited everything on no contract.

It looks like T-Mobile...

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...is sending the right signal.
[Nexus 4 General] CrazyPeter:
Wow, I still can't believe how much Americans pay for their mobile phones and contracts. That's REALLY expensive, even on the the new T-Mobile deal.

In the UK a Nexus 4 is £279 to buy outright for the 16GB, including taxes, which equates to $420. And monthly mobile phone plans are from £5 a month ($8 a month) for unlimited data and a moderate amount of texts and calls.
[Nexus 4 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
I have been waiting to get a new Plan but this adds $10 more to my bill AND I would have to add $20/month each time I get a phone. So still have to keep my old plan :/
[Nexus 4 General] SnowBeer:
I see other benefits here. The lack of conditional call forwarding on t-mobile prepaid has kept me away (no google voicemail or ability to do some dual-phone sharing between work and personal smartphones). Also the $30 prepaid with the 100min voice limit was a no-go. Now this $50 plan gives full advanced call forwarding features from what I can tell and unlimited voice/sms, and 500Mb of data. I average 350Mb so it should work for me.

I notice you can get a similar "gophone" plan from ATT, which I think also has conditional call forwarding, but I think that one is $65.
[Nexus 4 General] pak-stars:
sounds like a good deal then
[Nexus 4 General] raptir:
Uh, three lines with unlimited everything (including data) is now $150. And if you went with 2GBs on the two phones it would be $130. How is that not dropping your rate?
[Nexus 4 General] castano22:
I tried to get Blackberry Z10 from the plans but paying monthly. I stay have to pay a deposit a $400 deposit and a $100 down payment when I could just buy the phone of them for $531 full price.

I don't know why they will still do deposits. They're plan right now best you can get without being on contract. I would gladly stay with them while paying the monthly bill for the phone.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
Yeah, I got it thanks:rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
Kinda don't like the fact tmo is getting the iPhone five n cheaper plans then everyone else... Now everyone will jump the wagon and make it more congested lol...

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Already pointed this out with pics lol
[Nexus 4 General] jimmyjoebob:
Don't forget that when a landline user calls your cell phone, it cost them to call you.

So cell companies want people to call your cell phone.

It does cost land companies to call other cell/landline numbers here too, but a small fraction of a cent per minute.
[Nexus 4 General] chrisrozon:
Yeah, but all of the UK could fit into the US's back pocket with room to spare. Building a nationwide network that spans the length and width of the US is EXPENSIVE!
[Nexus 4 General] npro1464:
And for whatever it's worth, a 16 GB Nexus 4 is only $350 here in the states.
[Nexus 4 General] dito33:
And with unlimited minutes I dropped my land line, how much that cost you UK guy.
[Nexus 4 General] shr33kant:
I just signed up yesterday to the full monty package for UK with unlimited texts, calls and data for £16 per month. Bargain ^_^.
[Nexus 4 General] foxmeister:
Except it isn't really unlimited data, is it?

The T&Cs associated with TMo UKs internet offerings are pretty restrictive.

Regards,

Dave

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UK prices include VAT @ 20%. Yes, I know it's a lot more than State sales tax, but it is always included in consumer pricing and if your lucky enough to self-employed and/or VAT registered, you can claim that tax back.

The point is that before tax, the price is pretty much identical.

Regards,

Dave
[Nexus 4 General] Rakeesh_j:
I only need unlimited 4g on a single line. After 5th line I just added, minus veterans discount, add taxes, it comes to $128.18, or $25.63 per line. A quarter per line for what is essentially zero limits is a pretty good deal. Compare that to your plan, which amounts to almost $60 per line without taking overages into consideration.

Plus, tmo does H42, which yields higher data rates (for me, at least) than LTE from VZW and AT&T, all while using far less battery power. Also, the hd voice feature is neat. When I talk to other n4 owners they come in so crisp and clear, I can even hear people whispering to them and everything they are saying, lol.

Possibly, though it seems that t-mobile has more spectrum than AT&T and verizon, which could mitigate that quite a bit. Keep in mind the distinction between available spectrum and available coverage, which tmo is slightly behind on.
[Nexus 4 General] pak-stars:
da fuq?
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
I'm about ten months into my contract. So I guess I have to wait to move over to the new plans?
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
The migration fee is based on the last time you did an upgrade. If your last upgrade was 10 months ago then you would have to wait. If its been 18 months since last upgrade then no fee
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
I'm a new subscriber. Never had an upgrade
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
When you signed up for service did you get a device or did you bring your own(or paid full retail). If you did not get a device you should be able to migrate for free. Though I would double check. Online when you click on change plans it told me I would be charged a fee. You can check there or if you prefer in store to just check.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
According to the site I would have to pay $450. I need to go to my local store.
[Nexus 4 General] marsdta:
Yeah that seems too high. Its suppose to start at 200 per line then drop as your closer to 18 months without a subsidy on a phone. Definitely should stop by a store
[Nexus 4 General] Novarox:
No, you aren't. If it's the old prepaid $50 plan then you always had only 200mb of data. Trust me, I know.

The new no contact post paid plan actually ups it to 500mbs. Its been like this for a while.

If you wanted 2gigs with unlimited talk and text its 60 on prepaid, about 66/67 after taxes and with a post if you included php it's 73/74.

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Okay, I see a lot of misinformation in this thread so I'll attempt to clarify it.

Here's how our current postpaid accounts work. They start at $50 which gives you unlimited talk, text and 500 mb of 4g speeds. If you want to bump it up to 2gigs of 4g speeds at 10 bucks for a total of $60. If you want 100% truly unlimited data add $20 to the original 50 and you get $70/month for truly unlimited talk text and 4g lte or hspa depending on what phone you have.

If you add insurance onto your line (which I suggest) simply add 7.99 onto your price plans. Please note that prepaid accounts no longer have the option of adding insurance onto the phone.

Now is where people get confused. Since we are no contract we sell the phones full price but instead of expecting our customers to plunk down $600+ we break it into installments which are added onto your bill automatically. What you do is you pay a down payment which varies in amount depending on your credit class. After that you pay the rest of the phone in installments (usually $15-$20/mo for high tier phones) which are added onto your bill and is untaxed. No, you aren't paying more for the device compared to buying it somewhere else with the only exception being the Nexus 4. But, you do pay less up front for the Nexus 4 so it is still an option in case you can't afford to spend $3-450 for the phone up front.

If for some reason you decide one month you want to pay, for example, $100 instead of the normal price, all future payments will be lowered to show that you paid off an extra $100.

The following article does an amazing job comparing T-Mobile to ATT. Even though the article talks about the S4 specifically you can apply the basic principle and ideas to any phone.

http://androidcommunity.com/t-mobil...328/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews

Hope this helps clarify.

Edit:

Oh, and our small business plans now also have the option of being opened under the new no contract value plan. If you still want a discount on the phone and don't mind being locked in for 2 years that's ONLY available to business owners.
[Nexus 4 General] LoopDoGG79:
You can still go to Walmart and get a discounted phone and get locked in to a two year contract. Opened a new line, got a S3 for $100 and got a two year contract contact.
[Nexus 4 General] Novarox:
You can, but I honestly don't know much about Walmart plans. All I know is that when someone comes into the store with a plan they opened up there it's a pain to deal with
[Nexus 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Except when you buy a phone or service from a VAR. In that case all the historical subsidized plans still exist. That's going to be hella confusing to people as not only is T-Mobile sold through a VAR competing against AT&T, VZW, and Sprint it's also competing with itself. Here's a Costco internal document explaining to associates how to sell "their" T-Mobile against the "real" T-Mobile. Kind of odd. The reason though is that VARs get paid a hefty cut of the total 24 month wireless take that T-Mobile receives and they get paid once the account goes past the remorse period. So you can't pay Costco $400 in advance on what you'll make over two years if the subscriber can walk away at any time. It'll be interesting to watch this all play out.

P.S. - If you BYOD to AT&T you don't sign a contract, have no length of service commitment, and can get any of their post-paid plans. You can come and go as you please as long as you don't get any subsidization toward a device.

P.S.S. - I have no connection to AT&T other than using unlocked international devices on them with no contract.
[Nexus 4 General] persheshhater:
You guys at tmobile are very funny. You say no more contracts but you mean there still are contracts. The installement plan to pay the phone is a contract itself. So basically you still have contracts. Anyways you gonna fail. In the US there is a different culture from Europe, and T-Mobile cannot make the US people change their culture.
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Personally I like where T-Mobile is going.
[Nexus 4 General] Novarox:
No.

Next month you decide you want to leave? Cool, pay the phone and leave.

A contract would mean you HAVE to stay for x amount of years.

If you expected to get the S4 for a measly $100 and cut out you must be smoking something REALLY strong lol
[Nexus 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Let’s play with some numbers. Here’s comparing a typical T-Mobile unlimited plan with a more limited but typical AT&T plan. The AT&T plan has fewer minutes (450 day/5,000 other) but it has unlimited M2AM calling which extends them greatly. So does rollover. A heavy voice user would be better off with T-Mobile because their plans are better. If there’s more than one device on an account AT&T starts to look better again as Mobile Share has unlimited voice and MMS. T-Mobile’s also a better deal plan wise for people that are heavy data users. Again, AT&T’s Mobile Share helps people with higher data needs pricing wise but it’s not unlimited. T-Mobile’s unlimited data is a great deal for individual users. So a perfectly livable AT&T plan isn't that far off from a T-Mobile plan and the numbers look better for AT&T with multiple lines on the account.

Here’s where it gets fun. Canceling a contract after six months with AT&T is cheaper than not having one with T-Mobile. Again, this is an individual plan so who knows what the totals are for multiline plans and the numbers will be different based on how many months you terminate early. I just picked six months at random. But it kind of proves that contracts aren’t as bad as T-Mobile’s making them out to be.
[Nexus 4 General] foxmeister:
There are lots of different cultures in Europe too - there's no such thing as a one size fits all mentality!

Here in the UK, up until recently, all phones apart from the iPhone were free on certain contacts. My Galaxy Note 2 cost me nothing and I pay £36 per month (approximately $55) for a truly unlimited data plan with more minutes and texts than I could ever use. One important distinction here is that in the UK, our plan minutes only cover calls we make - received calls are completely free.

The TMo $70 unlimited plan sounds like an improvement (for my usage anyway) on the plans that were available in Florida when in was out there for an extended period in 2009/10.

Regards,

Dave
[Nexus 4 General] persheshhater:
I know how it works in europe, i am an european too:) i like their new plans better, but as i said I doubt americans will follow them.
[Nexus 4 General] bobpantsspongesquare:
Uh, what? I'm paying right at $200 a month for two lines with unlimited talk, text and data ( 10gb for under 4g, unlimited 4g ). With the new pricing for my two lines and unlimited talk, text, web ( unlimited 4g data ) it is only $120. That seems cheaper to me. I don't know, maybe I don't math so well.

http://www.t-mobile.com/shop/plans/family-plans.aspx

Choose 2 lines and below that, choose Unlimited Nationwide 4G and watch the numbers. It is a much better deal. I'll be switching in July as that is when I can change my plan "migration fee free" according to the TMO guy last night. If I do it now, it is $100 per line.
[Nexus 4 General] chuckenfoot:
I switch my two lines over from Verizon and now I get unlimited everything and save about 70 per month.... Not too bad
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
I went from $70 prepaid t mobille to a regular $70 tmobile member.

Better service, higher priority, plus 500 meg of hotspot and roaming (you can't roam on prepaid).

Plus, I can use my company discount of $15% so i am paying $60 for unlimted everything without a contract.

So far, the service is way better then prepaid.
[Nexus 4 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
This thread has ran its course, Thank You.
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erdal67:
iHey guys,

i installed rempuzzle rom on my wildfire since that i can't connect my phone to my laptop with windows 7,

i need ABD because i'm want to test my rom(if it boots i'm gonna publice it) i installed cm7.2 latest nightly on it but it still dont reconizes it!!!!:(

i tried with 3 usb cables

i rebooted my phone 2x

my laptop 2x

tried 3 roms

installed 3x htc syc
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
Have you tried different USB ports? Did adb work on your stock rom?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erdal67:
Yes i tried all 3 usb ports i flashed rempuzzlerom few days after i did i plugged my phone to my laptop and instantly it said phone is not reconized i tried new drivers but no. Then i got into recovery and installed cm7.2 but again.

I dont know if this has any connections with it but before flashing rempuzzle i partitioned my sd card to 0 or something and my whole sd card got formatted

Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire met Tapatalk
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
Are you on windows? If so go to the device manager and yell me what it sees the phone as please
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scratch0805:
Also if you boot into recovery and mount usb from there, does it pick anything up then?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewniany92:
Odp: [Q] my wildfire doesn't get reconized in usb???

it's a bug in this version. hope kylon will fix it.

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erdal67:
yes windows 7 it says: unknown device , further in it it says: this device stopped because reported problems(code 43)

i got into recover switched to cmw clicked on mounts and storage and mount /sdcard

and NOPE....

worst version of rempuzzle imo:mad:
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewniany92:
Odp: [Q] my wildfire doesn't get reconized in usb???

this update would be best if not this issue. only things which u can do for now are waiting or changing rom to another (;

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erdal67:
i did!

-cm7.2

-miui v3

again cm7.2:eek:
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scratch0805:
Mounting from Cwm is not related to the rom you're using so I'd say it's definitely a problem elsewhere and not with the rom.
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewniany92:
Odp: [Q] my wildfire doesn't get reconized in usb???

but afaik everyone has this issue since they have installed 3.1 update );

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Scratch0805:
Am not doubting you, just if it isn't working in recovery, when the software from the ROM is not even loaded then its most likely a problem elsewhere such as drivers incorrectly installed, a broken cable/USB port etc etc......
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewniany92:
Odp: [Q] my wildfire doesn't get reconized in usb???

so if u don't belive me then please make a backup of current rom and install new rem puzzle and check it out (;

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] erdal67:
What does afaik and imho mean:confused::D

Verstuurd van mijn HTC Wildfire met Tapatalk
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drewniany92:
Odp: [Q] my wildfire doesn't get reconized in usb???

afaik- as far as i know

imho- in my humble opinion (;

Wysyłane z mojego HTC Wildfire za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nathan Stepu:
[Q] Hi, can someone make Sony music widget enable in adw launcher,

thanks before
[Motorola Droid RAZR] desertmod1:
I'm currently on the Verizon JB version on a GSM XT910 phone.

My question is can I use the following procedure to go back to ICS ?

1. Restore cid through BMM.

2. Reboot to AP fastboot mode.

3. Flash ICS with RSD lite.

Thanks in advance.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ryan81192:
I've tried this about five times and I'm currently still trying to figure this out. I don't think It's going to work that way because Jelly Bean has a different kernel than ICS. I have tried flashing an ICS rom with safe strap and then flashing the fastboot ics files with rsd lite but I haven't been able to get it to flash the ICS rom.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] desertmod1:
Did you try this ?

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2078021&highlight=cid+bmm+ics
[Motorola Droid RAZR] tie7:
As I know, everyone tells, that there is no way, to come back from JB to ICS with Mororola Razr.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] desertmod1:
Yes that's true for the Vodafone version being flashed with RSD.

I flashed the Verizon version with the cid trick.

I have this version: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2182674

I used this method to install it:
[Motorola Droid RAZR] desertmod1:
For future reference, I did the razrguy method above:

But step 4 didn't work for me so I used BBM to restore the cid.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] TheMrcool212:
you can easily restore the cid in the AP Fastboot mode, just put the cid.img file in the fastboot folder, then use this command:

fastboot flash cid cid.img

and reboot
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] :
I often (very often, actually :D) take a look at the current running apps and memory usage. Yesterday I performed a clean install of 4.2.2, and I noticed that memory usage is now about 330-380Mb (after closing them all). Before flashing, I was using the same 4.2.2 stock ROM, but updated through OTA from 4.2.1. Same apps (restored using the backup service), same running services, different memory usage: always around 400Mb.

Have you ever experienced the same thing? Is this just a matter of the up time?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikodr:
4.2.2 roms suffer from memory leak effects . Better option is to downgrade to 4.1.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] DroidedMFer:
Man, I wish I had that much available at any time...I've been running PA with about 140 apps installed and only have 150-100mb available at any given time
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] nikodr:
Xylon is the only rom that does not suffer from slowdowns. I tested many and all had the problems you mentioned on first post. But now I am on rooted 4.1.2 stock . Until there is a fix from google I won't go to the latest one.4.1.2 and nexus is amazing fast.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] 063_XOBX:
20mb is a negligible difference (less than 2%) and certainly isn't enough to claim any kind of improvement.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haroon93:
Hi I am using the htc_IME v30 keyboard and there are only 16 languages that I could choose from. There are no Arabic, Chinese, or Japanese. Is there a way to get more languages?

All help appreciated.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CnC-ROCK:
change the keyboard.
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] haroon93:
Ain't there any other way?
[XPERIA X8 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gogeta:
You have to edit keyboard apk for that..

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stefanos7:
as you can see through my screenshots i face this problem.....

i have my device just a week with 5-6 full charges..

today i put some extra calendars in the google calendar in order to have the name days in my calendar..the file was .ics(i'm wondering if these files are responsible for this drain.. )

please help..