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[HTC Incredible S] giudicealdo:
I'm quite tired of my Inc S as well.

I tried to trade it for an iPhone 4- 16 gigs- lately. But without luck.

No stable Cm 9-10 so far, shipped with laggy firmware. It's time to invest some bucks in new hardware, there's no other solution...
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
-_- you are aware that there are some great Sense ROMs out there that do not lag and are very much stable???
[HTC Incredible S] giudicealdo:
I'm running viverVivo at the moment. I'm enjoying it: really a great work. It's highly customizable, and I love to play with it. But I constantly have to kill apps, wipe everything, use seeder, play with the kernel settings...

And I still haven't found a good balance between battery life and smoothness... I must admit I'm quite a noob :) Anyway, despite the efforts of a great development community, this device is just old now... And as someone said some post above, is optimized for GB, ICS capable, and not able to run JB in a satisfying way.

Does anyone want my Inc S? ;)
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Mmmm. The Incredible S is capable of running any Android OS. The only reason why it gets more difficult to run newer Android OS is because Android is packing more and more things into their operating system making it laggier. A great example is the difference between 2.3 and 4.0.4. There was quite a noticeable difference in speed because HTC decided to bloat their firmware (damn you HTC, damn you >:( ) To your last comment, our phone is not capable of running JB in a satisfying way, thats not necessarily the case. I think you are referring to the number of bugs that come with AOSP builds for our device?? Theres bound to be issues because no one builds stock ROMs for our device due to aging. So theres the different CPUs and screen resolutions and all that stuff which isnt exactly fun to work with. If someone manages to successfully built a jellybean Sense ROM for our device (interaser certainly did a GREAT job with Viper based off of One X for sure), theres probably gonna be less bugs.
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
Giudicealdo, I don't agree in totality.. If you look at the dev forums, then 4.2.1: jelly time and one by lacoste and 4.2.2: pacman and one by lacoste are pretty stable and fast ROMs...

But yes i agree that the battery life is not as great ICS onwards as it was with GB...
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi again All

.

WoW, some FANTASTIC ideas and inputs from everyone (did I just make up a new word - inputs)

Anyway, can I ask everyone a big favour please.

I am new to this kind of thing, and don't really understand all this stuff below >

ROM: RENOVATE Final 1 < Is this the operating system?

Android Version: 4.1.1 < Whats this?

Sense Version: 4+ < I kind of know what this is.

Build Number: 3.14.401.31 < No idea what this is.

Kernel: Stock JB < Nor this

Radio: 5.1204.162.29 < I only found out about this from the tech guy at Monkeymobile, But I sort of know what it is now.

So, with all of the above said, What are your recommendations for me to install on the phone?

ROM: < Which should I use

Android Version: < Which should I use

Sense Version: < Which should I use

Build Number: < Which should I use

Kernel: Stock < Which should I use

Radio: < Which should I use

Bearing in mind that I am looking for fluidity and speed, not that fussed about battery time, as I can charge it in the house, car, and at work, but just want something that's quick and not laggy, but the Camera must work as well as the Wi-Fi too.

Is there anything else I need to download, again, if there is can you make any recommendations please. And, is there anything else to worry about, for example this aerial business?

I know I am asking a lot, but, I do appreciate all the help from all of you.
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
Peter,

My two cents:

First you need to decide whether you want to stick to sense ROMs, that is, HTC stock Roms or move to non-sense (;)0 ROMS..

Since you are on ICS - I would recommed you try IceColdSandwich 8.8 which is an amazing AOKP ROM

Further take a look at the below links to root your phone and find the list of custom ROMs (stock and otherwise)

Flashing phone : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1337105

List of ROMs: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1136463

Answering some of your questions (but you will have to read on google or xda forums - that helps most):

Android 4.1.1 is JellyBean; other versions of JellyBean are 4.2.1 and 4.2.2. Android 4.0.4 is IceCreamSandwich

Stock kernel: developers use the HTC kernel available with stock ROM. Some of them use the customized ones

Thus:

ROM: try all the flavours available :) and then stick to the one you like most. Some of the stable ones available are:

1. Gingerbread: ARHD ROM (Stock)

2. ICS: IceColdsandwich 8.3/8.8 (non stock), Niks (Stock)

3. JB 4.1.1: Lacoste's ROM

4. JB4.2.1: JellyTime by blindndumb and Lacoste's ROM

5. JB4.2.2: PACman v21 and Lacoste's ROM

Sense: depends on your taste; sense 4 is only available for ICS ROM and not for GB ROM. Personally I had stopped liking Sense since ICS update.. even though it offers some really good widgets but it restricts a user.. the AOKP and other ROMs offer a great deal of customization..

Kernel: ideally use the ones embedded in the ROM; you can however flash available kernels

Radio: Above link for flashing the ROM will give you an insight

Hope it helps
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
I really like this detailed explanation of everything but theres a few things:

ARHD is now in ICS unless you want to search through some 600 pages for the link for the Gingerbread one (I know its there, jsut dont know hich page). For Gingerbread you can try Nik_Trinity_Sensation

For ICS AOSP/AOKP, yeah you are pretty much stuck with Ice Cold Sandwich there. Its been stopped but someone posted a ported v8.8

For JB AOSP/AOKP, there's a lot to try out although almost all the JB ROMs here are 4.2.X (the exceptions being CyanVivoX Reborn and CM10). A note for AOKP, dont use the link in the first post, the ROM is WAY TOO LAGGY in that form. Member Troj posted a fixed version that has reduced the lag to next to 0.

As for flashing kernels and Radios, you cant do that without achieving S-OFF.
[HTC Incredible S] vieose:
I wanted to add:

Gingerbread: CM7, Virtous Affinity(for me still the best Sense 3.5 Rom)

Ice Cream Sandwich: Nik Project x Reborn, Viper Vivo
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi again everyone.

Well, I am absolutely gob smacked with all the help I have received, and you and all of your replies and pointers / tips have restored my faith in Forums.

As I am sure you are aware, some are good, some are bad and some are just, well, you get the drift.

I think I now have enough info to try a few different things, but, I am not going to be doing this. I am letting the tech guy from "Monkey Mobile" here in the UK do this for me. I spent a long time talking to him the other day, and listened tentatively to all that he said, and it was genuinely interesting.

I have emailed myself this page, and I will email it to him so he can sort my phone out while I am at work in the Hospital. I know he will already know a lot of this, but I don't expect him to know everything about every mobile and the tremendous amount of different apps, operating systems and other items, that would just be unreasonable not to mention unfair, so this information will be useful to him because I asked all of you for specific information, which you all greatly gave me.

I am however going to make a concerted effort to catch up with him the next time he is over here at a weekend and learn how to do this off him. I feel it would be the least I can do after all of the help I have received off of all of you in here.

I'm old fashioned in that I am aware of what my limitations are, and that a "little knowledge is dangerous" but with this in mind we all have to start somewhere, Right!

And if you don't have a go, then you won't know how you get on. Of course, it would be great if these mobiles had a "System restore" feature like Windows, where if you screw something up then you can just re-boot and restore it and try again.

I have "Thanked" you all via the button on the forums, so others can see your help was greatly appreciated.

So, with that said, can I say a Huge Thank You to srv.abhishek for all the

exceptional detailed help and links

, and 072665995 for the words of Caution, and also Silversniper for the other detailed explanations and "word to the wise" cautions.

Thank you ALL again, I know it sounds cheesy, but,

your time and help is very much appreciated

.
[HTC Incredible S] ntmm:
well they have a sort of restore system... if I'm not mistaken built in... not sure though...

but the option to backup everything, including the ROM should be in the main system, not in a background boot system...

I'm yet to gather all the info, and confidence, to S-Off and root my phone to install a diferent recovery.

I've seen an aparently good stock ROM, with good battery life, perhaps due to having sense 4.1, and not 3.6... it's also ICS 4.0.4...

Battery drain is the big issue I find in this device... I'm yet to perform a factory reset... perhaps that would change it a bit, but apart from that the phone behaves very good, not a single fail this last week ( I just got the phone 1 week ago )

Peterobertson, sorry to "jump" into your thread like this, but thanks to it I also learned quite a bit =)
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
Peter you're welcome and feel free to post..

Just a couple of more things:

1. Ask your friend to install a recovery after unlocking the boot loader. The most used one is clockworkmod but there are others too.. Using recovery backup the existing ROM incase you want to restore in case of issues

2. Post rooting the phone, install titanium backup which will allow you to backup all the existing user and system applications- normally we backup user applications. With this all the apps and related data is saved and can restored when a different ROM is flashed

3. Print the instructions on how to root your phone; you may find them handy.

All the best
[HTC Incredible S] ntmm:
@ srv.abhishek:

Can a recovery, like CWM be installed and rooting done without having to change the stock ROM to a custom one?

Meaning, can it be done and the ROM remain the same?

As for the backup, by doing it, if I do a backup via recovery, and if by any case want to do a restore, will it restore the ROM too?

These are the things I'm not yet sure about. Read a few threads here on xda but can't understand it all =(, so sorry for the hassle.
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
ntmm:

EDIT: S-OFF information available in the following post...

If you do a backup of the ROM using the recovery you have flashed above, then you can restore it later by booting into recovery.. the recovery backs up everything on the ROM including apps, calendar, contacts, even the position of the widgets ...
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
This isnt S-OFF bro. Its just bootloader unlocked.... I made a guide to get S-OFF. Its in my sig..
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
thanks for pointing that out... good learning for me too :)
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Bootanimation

Can anyone tell how to change the bootanimation in a custom rom?

Tried doing it on Nik Project X Rebirth, from both the file manager as well as Rom manager. Even flashed a custom bootanimation.zip but wasn't successful.

Please suggest how to do the same. Thanks in advance. :)
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
You flashed it??? In order to flash things u need a meta-inf folder.

And in file manager the locatin of bootanimation varies depending on whether its AOSP or Sense

in AOSP the bootaniamtion is in /system/media. Then change permissions to rw-r-r so it looks like :

(X) (X) ( )

(X) ( ) ( )

(X) ( ) ( )

In Sense ROMs the bootanimation is in /system/customize/etc
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Bootanimation

So, in order to change the bootanimation, I need to change this file /system/customize/etc with the required bootanimation. (I'm using a sense ROM)

I tried this, the steps I performed were as follows:

1. In the settings of ES File explorer, I checked upto root and mounted system as writable.

2. Then deleted the bootanimation from this location.

3. Copied a new bootanimation file.

But didn't turn out to work.

Other thing which I tried was downloaded a bootanimation.zip and in recovery, installed a zip file from sdcard.

This too didn't work out.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Did u set permissions?
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Bootanimation

How to change permissions?? I mounted system as writable isn't that sufficient?

I found the bootanimation file in /system/bin/

Is this the correct one??
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
O_O NOOO dont touch the stuff in the /bin folder lol. A bootanimation is always a zip file (you probably know already). I think on ES file explorer, to change permissions, you need to long click :confused: Ive been using root explorer far too long cuz its more slimmed down everywhere :P and its simpler.
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Bootanimation

Ok got it.

The permissions are

---------r w e

user (x) (x) (x)

group (x) ( ) (x)

other (x) ( ) (x)

Are these fine??

---------- Post added at 02:56 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:41 AM ----------

Ok got it.

Its under /system/customize/resourse

bootanimation.zip

Copied a new one, changed the permissions to:

(X) (X) ( )

(X) ( ) ( )

(X) ( ) ( )

Its working now. Thanks for all the help. :)
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
H E L P !

Hi again Guy's.

Well, he's had the phone for a whole day now and can't get the S-Off.

It seems to get to 60-70% then keeps failing, so he can't even unlock the boot loader or do anything.

Does anyone have any ideas please, this it's really wizzing me off now, and won't even let me sell it or trade it in now because of the poor price I would get because of the crappy slow performance of the phone since the HTC up-date?

Many thanks again guy's.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Please give an error code. You describing your problem DOES NOT HELP AT ALL. Im not trying to be rude here but its the same thing as telling a ROM developper theres a so and so bug and he/she tells you to provide a logcat.
[HTC Incredible S] vieose:
He can't give us the error because his friend tried it. I will post you a tutorial.

---------- Post added at 06:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 PM ----------
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Well then he should ask his friend for an error code. No matter what tutorial you put, everybody can still run into various problems that may not be present in the tutorial, thus making the tutorial useless until that person overcomes his or her own issue. Rerunning the RUU and expecting a different result wouldnt work either cuz ud probably end up coming back to the same problem over and over again.
[HTC Incredible S] ntmm:
First of all, sorry Peterobertson for using your thread, but since the simptons are almost the same I thought it would be ok.

If not, just let me know

Ok...

Now this is a bugger...

I instaled a big game (1.8Gb) on my IncS, on sdcard of course, and now am experiencing a bit of the same as Peterobertson... =/

Wich I might add is a bit... weird... Am yet to uninstall it to see if there are any changes, but the memory consumption got too high o.O making the phone a bit slow...

Still stock ICS 4.0.4 with 3.6 Sense ROM. No root, S-On, etc etc etc...

Well, decided to do a restart and the phone is now back on track as it was before becoming slower... will see how it goes...
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Having a bash.

Hi again everyone.

Sorry for the delay, but work has been hectic.

Anyway, I now have my phone back, and it is exactly the same as before it went in. The guy at the shop told me there was NO error message, it just got to 60 or 70% then stopped.

So, I am now wondering about a few things.

1) S-Off. I would like to remove some of the rubbish apps on there that I don't seem to be able to, so do I have to S-Off ?

2) Which ROM do I use for the HTC Inc S that is stable and that allows me to have the Camera working and also the WiFi

3) Sense. Which one do I use to go with the ROM?

4) Radio. I take it I don't have to worry about it? and just leave it alone.

Again. Many thanks for the help, and I am sorry if some of this seems like back to basics for some of you experienced guy's, but to be honest browsing around the web in general, looking at some of the YouTube clips etc can get a bit complicated and you end up in a situation where you don't know what to use, and where to get it from.

Some of the tutorial pages have links to things you need to have, but then the links don't work.

Thanks again Everyone.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
1. Well i dunno do you? that info is in the bootloader

2. All the current ROMs (any ROM on the first page of Inc S developement have wifi working. Camera should be fine too (tested by me :D)

3. I dunno, what wud u prefer a stable rock solid sense 3.6, stable Sense 4, or what?

4. Yep :D dont worry :D
[HTC Incredible S] vieose:
1.You just need root permissioins.

2.Almost every Rom out there does have a working Cam and Wifi, just read a bit on the first post in Rom threads :)

3.The good'ol Sense 3.5 Roms are the only 100% perfect working roms out

there. Try Virtous Affinity ;)

4.Yep, you can ignore that :)
[HTC Incredible S] poondog:
1. on ICS you can disable the apps in settings. Its not removing but its better than nothing

3. Blackout ICS is pretty much perfect ;)
[HTC Incredible S] srv.abhishek:
1. you just need root permissions.. however as suggested by mark you can disable them as well

2. AOKP and PACman 4.1.2 have issues with camera.. IceColdSandwich 8.3 has wifi intermittent issues - sometimes post flashing wifi fails to turn on; i faced it once but never after that;

In the last few threads we have specified the stable ROMs

3. Depends on your like and also the ROM you choose.. if you have used enough of 3.6, you can try ROM with Sense 4 or 4.1
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Thanks everyone.

I think I have enough info now to try and have a go at this myself. I am fine with PC's and have been building my own since they came out, but this phone business is all new to me. Worse case scenario I can always send it back to HTC for six weeks :p

I have lots on in the next few days or so, so I might leave it till next weekend and have a go myself. I have downloaded some stuff that seem to be required according to the threads I have been looking at, but must admit that this all seems very complicated at first, even over complicated to me.

It's a pity there isn't a program that we can download and it asks you what you want to do then it just does it.

I also can't seem to get HTC Sync to install either, it keeps failing at the driver part?
[HTC Incredible S] vieose:
Are you running Windows8? If yes google or search a bit. Windows 8 is handling drivers very different compared to Windows 7.
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi,

No. Windows 7 here.

PS if I do decide to go ahead with this, can someone list which things need to be done in which order, and please link me to what I need to download. I know it is a nuisance, but a majority of those links in the old tutorial no longer work, and do I really need HTC Sync seeing as I am having so much trouble with it?

Thanks again.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Ok so which OS are you using....

And also I made a guide on how to achieve S-OFF with Blackrose HBOOT. All the links should be working. And yes you do need HTC Sync (for the drivers. When you run Revolutionary though, HTC Sync should be uninstalled. TO get Blackrose, you need HTC Sync (yea i know. a bit frusturating :/)
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
"Ok so which OS are you using...."

Windows 7 64 bit.

I have tried everything but can't get HTC Sync to install. This is getting very frustrating now. Why is this all so difficult?
[HTC Incredible S] vieose:
Google for htc drivers download. Someone uploaded it in devhost too and it was working for me. If you can't find anything I'll try to upload my files.

Just press 'thanks' and I know I helped the community c:
[HTC Incredible S] Arjun0118:
My thing was same too but I rooted my phone and now overclocking my processor gives Me high speeds and with niks Rom you don't even need s-off

Sent from my HTC Incredible S
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
-_- bro u said u didnt have windows 7 -_-

You need HTC Sync for Blackrose to run (although Blackrose isnt mandatory. just for some ROMs u need it. There arent many though).
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi.

So, you have an

Incredible S

as well, and you managed to root the phone and make it faster and changed the rom, Fantastic. Would you be so kinds to detail exactly how you did it please, and link to anything I need to download please. What you managed to do sounds exactly what I want to do.

Many thanks in advance.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
My guide in my signature works.
[HTC Incredible S] Arjun0118:
Root the phone like the above guy pointed and try To install niks Rom and tell us the results

Sent from my HTC Incredible S
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi All.

Silversniper, Can you upload the HTC drivers please, not having any luck so far, Thanks.

So, I am going to have a bash at this at the weekend, I take it I can use a different ROM without having to S-Off. I would like to S-Off, but it looks very complicated, and a lot of the links in the tutorials I have come across no longer work, which is very frustrating.

Not sure weather to go with Blackout ICS or Nik Project_X_Rebirth.

This the problem now, I'm coming into forums where a majority of you know exactly what you are doing, and have been Rooting and Roming and messing with these phones for a long time, but I have yet to complete my first root, so technically I'm a "Root Virgin" :p

If you can think of anything else I need to do, or a specific process that has to be done in a specific order then let me know please.

Thanks again.

PS It's a pitty there isn't a application that does Everything such as root, S-Off, apply whatever ROM you tell it too etc, even payware. I'm sure I'm not the only person that finds this all a tad complicated. All this makes PC's easy in comparison.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Bro. I think this is about the third time i said it. THE LINK TO MY GUIDE IN MY SIGNATURE WORKS. and S-OFF is not complicated at all.... Its pretty much all automated in the form of scripts where you just have to enter a few commands here and there...
[HTC Incredible S] Peterobertson:
Hi.

I meant no disrespect 072665995, and yes, I did see the link to S-Off in your sig, but I was asking about the possibilities of moving over to either Blackout ICS or Nik Project_X_Rebirth.

The S-Off I was going to have a go at later.

Like I said, I'm new to this, and not trying to wiz anyone off, just get my head around this. No doubt after I have done one of these procedures I will see that it's not that bad. I only asked in here because I can get support from people who have done these things, and can let me know about any potential pit falls or things to look out for.

I'm still having issues with the HTC drivers

, which keep failing at the install, and

apparently without these I can't do anything

.

Thanks, and again I am just trying to feel my way around all this stuff. You may not think it is complicated, but to someone that has never done this before It can seem complicated.

None the less I am determined to give this a go, and will use your link for the S-Off, and

will follow it to the letter

.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Is there any specific error that the installation is giving you??
[HTC Incredible S] sunezapa:
I got lost in this "Your phone should be HBOOT 2.02.0002 or HBOOT 2.03..."

I did look for info about this in the phones software, hardware and other info, but did not found anything about "HBOOT"...
[HTC Incredible S] tpbklake:
That information is found on the bootloader screen. Power your phone off and then Hold the Volume Down key and then hold the Power button and you will get into the bootloader.