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[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft

I know that, and I did unzip them beforce upgrade.

The problem is I don't know how to get a CHINESE ROM in NBF format...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Gilbert:
Hi guys,

I did the update to rom 1.60 and it is great. I have an Imate Pocet PC. the new rom is excellent but with one sad thing and that is if the device goes in standby mode the GPRS connection if you are connected to the internet goes off as well :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :( :( :( i there a fix to this.

Thanks,

Gilbert

gilbert_halaby@yahoo.com
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] somesex:
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mboile 1.60 update soft

For NBF, you can use XDAtools to capture the Chinese ROM, I did once with the English ROM and the file size is exactly the same as the one in 1.60 update. So there should have no missing bytes in the saved file.

For the EXTENDED_ROM, no idea how to save in NBF format ..
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] axbl:
I have installed the update but TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] JoseF:
@axbl

Hi, What do you think about the update? It´s mutch better than before?

You say "TomTom doesnt see the serial ports 4/5."

Have you installd Towa solution?

Regards

JoseF
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] keithop:
yikes...... did that happen on the old rom as well or did gprs stay connected on the original rom?

I hate the way gprs disconnects on devices.. it's supposed to be always on, and I'd really prefer if it stayed on during suspend etc so that MSN could stay connected, notifying me when I got a message....

Email checking likewise, I'd prefer gprs remained always connected and it'd check email in the background whether off or on, notifying me when it got a new mail.

I can't check the behaviour of my xda II since Im on "roaming" at the moment in another country so no gprs :(

but can anyone say for sure which way the old vs new rom work in this regard?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itsme:
I did some research on the upgrade process, and fileformats:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~itsme/projects/xda/xdaii-update-format.html
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] arebelspy:
I get an error 403 forbidden when I try this link.. odd thing is it was working for me earlier..

-arebelspy
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itsme:
oeps. fixed now.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
Since my device already upgraded to 1.60, I only can try to dump the 1.60 in nbf format.

However it seems the dumped size is not correct.

It is only 31.0 m (vs 31.5m), would you mind to tell me how to dump it by osimagetool? I use version 1.05.

And as expected, it is not usable with the Himaupgradeut.exe (It said it is not a vaild rom files or something like that).
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] somesex:
Hi,

I'd used XDAtools (still from this website) rather than osimagetools to capture the image file. The file size is supposingly the same as in the update tools. You might want to try.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
Hi Somesex,

Do you mean this one?

http://xda-developers.com/XDAtools/

If you are talking this one, the dump rom utility should be os image tool.

Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itsme:
xdatools and osimagetool are one and the same. ( maybe you have different versions )

hmm, yes now you mention it, the size is a bit strange,

it contains a 64 byte header

then a 256k bootloader

followed by 31.25 M of rom.

the old xda-i format was as follows:

a 32 byte header

a 256k bootloader

30.75 M of rom

updated my page, now a tool is included that can both encrypt and decrypt.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itsme:
I forgot to mention, that the extra 512k in the xda-ii nbf's is just empty space. you can fill it with zeroes.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
hi Itsme..

is that any problem with me ...

the new encrypt tools page seems not accessable for me..

"You don't have permission to access /~itsme/projects/xda/xda2nbftool.cpp on this server."

By the right, is that possible to

1. write a tools to edit the ms_.nbf

2. I already got an dumped chinese XDA2 rom with pmemdump in nb1 format.

However it seems not writable directly with bootabler. I am thinking how to write it by himaupgrade, and the rom dumped by pmemdump miss 412bytes in the head.

What I have to do to convert this file to a himaupgrade usable format?

May be the above question is a little bit stupid, but I am not a programmer...

Thanks.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
Can anyone inform me about the changes in the ROM update for bluetooth ?

As i understand the new ROM allows Bluetooth GPS, but does it support audio over Headset or even better, a handsfreeprofile ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] itsme:
damn file permissions, keep chasing me. fixed again.

ms_.nbf can be editted under linux, if you mount it via the loopback device, with offset 0x70040

mount -o loop,offset=0x70040 -t vfat ms_.nbf /mnt/loop0

and then just modify the filesystem mounted under /mnt/loop0

412 bytes is a strange number to miss. more likely 64 bytes,

I would have to change splitrom to also support xda-ii files I think.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] akira:
anyone found this problem?

after flashing

I cant copy files from any place to anyplace

the device copies it, but then keeps on thinking and thinking

i solved it by not installen the t-mobile TMDNLcustomize.sa.CAB file from extended rom

this error is not present anymore

dunno if anyone else had this
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
The file explorer seems not quite stable in the 1.60 rom.

So I use Resco Explorer ...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] dnathan:
Hi there,

have you had any luck with answers with the above Qs? I've tried other threads like PPCSG and such but no luck. Do let us know if you've had any success with these questions.

Cheers,
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] sider:
Can I also get a copy of that please?

You seem to be our only source

Thanks for the bother :)

sider@gawab.com
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] van:
My MDA II

ROM version: 1.60.00WWE

ROM date: 12/03/03

Radio version: 1.06.01

Protocol version: 1337.16

ExtROM version: 1.60.06

I have been using new rom for 3 days, It seems alot of things better than Original ROM and more stable :P :lol: :D :D

http://www.myxda.com/XdaII/personal/template/XdaIIKnownLimitations.vm

I think that at least 7-10 bugs already fixed from XdaII Known Limitations

Thanks :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] pjcltd:
Help HELP

I have put the 1.6 rom on my xda II

I have big problems i need to put my UK rom back on my XDA

Help please

I made a back of my ROM using the XDA tools prog

Now what do i do ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
Sad to say i haven't had any replies on these questions :(
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] somesex:
Hi, can you try to remove the SD card (if you have) during restart, insert it back after WM2003 loaded, and see if your errors are still there or not.

Because I just got a Chinese XDA2 and found the same problem ... its rom is 1.50 ...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Panabax:
Bluetooth Profiles

If it supports bluetooth handsfree, I can't figure out how to enable it. I think the answer is no; however, it does fix the bluetooth serial port issue which was preventing the use of BT GPS units.

Panabax
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
Re: Bluetooth Profiles

pair with a carkit and say yes if it offers your MDA a handfree :)

thats a fux to a problem i don't have ;)' comming froma XDA i miss the audio out, i hoped to use handsfree BT for it.. headset only supports audio by phone....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
Re: Bluetooth Profiles

I am trying to connect to my EMTAC GPS, but it fails. Which COM port are you using?

Edit:

Scratch that, I forgot to enable outgoing serial/COM5 :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Panabax:
OK, connecting to the bluetooth com port with the 1.60 ROM is similar to setting up bluetooth activesync. First, unpair your gps device if it is paired. Then go to Settings/Bluetooth Settings and check Outbound COM Port: COM5. Then it will tell you to bond with the serial device. At this point, pair with the gps device and then set your GPS software to use COM 5.

It worked for me without any problems in Pocket CoPilot.

Panabax
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
Interestingly several things no longer exist in startup, which is good, including bpinsert, ussd, sms receiver and bluetooth icon. I guess they are now built into the system.

PalMop
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] GuardianZX9:
The Handsfree, BT Icon, and others seem to all be dll's now, does that mean they are no longer taking up valuable program slots?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
Correct, they no longer use our 32 app space :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Sounds peculiar...

no problems after? So what did you do, remove the cab file from startup then soft reset? Then it was fine?

Because if that's the case, there are a lot of CAB files we could remove from the T-mobile update.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] akira:
yes i removed it from the list config.txt

and deleted the cab

well extracted the cab

so i could get the phone skin and wav ringtone out :)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] killercheung:
Thanks all.

Finally I can edit the extended rom in my XDA2.

1.install Linux :(

2. as XDA developer Itsme, mount the ms_.nbf , and edit the contain.

3. move the edited ms_.nbf back to windows, and flash your device. You can simply extract the original upgrade EXE , delete nk.nbf and radio.nbf (?) , just leave the ms_.nbf.

4. Then run the upgrade program, it will just update the extended rom and will not hardreset your machine. Of course, since you may installed some unwanted T-Mobile setting and there is no option to uninstall, I recommand you hard-reset it.

More details will post tonight.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Whoa...hold on...elaborate please...I'm going to flash it, and I need you to explain to me what you did. I'm already guessing that you DL'ed the software from scarybear and ppcw.net, so I've got those ready.

I'm guessing that if you could remove the T-mobile CAB, then the other CAB files can also be removed, and the new extended_ROM could still imitate the old one in the i-mate, but with most of the bugs fixed already.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mr.smile1:
Got it ! :P :P :P

Now, can I totally edit the NBF ? Can I exchange the cabs, can I simply delete some and make changes to Config.txt and then update the PDA with the modified NBF ?

Do I have to check for keeping the same filesize and how can I do that?

Thanks for further insight !!!
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] akira:
i installed the rom update like it should normally go

and then installed a reg editor, for opening extended_rom

then edited config.txt and removed the line (sorry cant remember wich one it was)

and hard reseted

now no tmobile stuff was on my system

and the copy past in explorer with files was solved for me
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Alright. I'll go do that as well. I'm sure the reg editor from scary bears will work anyway. But just in case, which one did you use, and where did you get it?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
You can use the extended rom viewer cab from ppcw.net, it is easier ;)

I wrote this on a thread in ppcsg, the steps I took (backup part is not a must, but for those who want to play safe :) ):

1. Connect the XDA II via serial cable (gomadic.com sells XDA serial cables, which is perfect for this job).

2. Put XDA II into bootloader mode (Power+Direction+Reset)

3. Run Hyperterminal on your pc, connect to com port directly, 8n1, 115200

4. You'll see the command prompt. Enter d2s, this will dump the ROM to SD. It will wipe off everything from SD, so you need an empty SD card, 64Mb.

5. Keep the SD in a safe place.

6. Reset the device.

7. Follow the instructions of upgrade, if it fails, insert SD, put the device in bootloader mode and hit camera button and you can flash from SD back.

8. Once update is completed, calibrate, let the customizations run.

9. Install the extended rom viewer cab from ppcw.net

10. Reset

11. Edit config.txt, remove unnecessary items. Mine shows:

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPDisable.exe

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CameraRC131_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\MIDI56.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\CallerIDRC11_WWE_1.5.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\MMS1507_WWE.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\ClearVue_WWE.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\TMCOMREG.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Version_AKU1.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\OEM_AKU1_WWE_4AP.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\OEM_WWE_03120301.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\VideoMMS.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Broadcast_WWE.sa.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\TM_phone_class10.CAB

CAB: \Extended_ROM\Extended_ROM_viewer.CAB

EXEC:\Extended_ROM\TPEnable.exe

RST: Reset

I added Extended_ROM_Viewer.cab to the Extended_ROM folder.

12. Once all is set, save the file, hard reset (Power + reset). It will run only the customizations/apps you setup in config.txt

13. You are good to go.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mr.smile1:
Nice instructions.

Keep in mind - it only works your way if the Ext. ROM is not write-protected. Most new MDA/XDAs, it is nowadays.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
It looks like mine is...what do I do then?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
All the MDA IIs I have seen so far (we have 5 from different sources) are not write protected for Ext ROM.

Also I have couple of friends who have I-Mate and O2 XDA II (UK), they are not write protected either. Wonder which providers lock it up.

For those of you who see it as locked, have you tried to write onto it via Total Commander 6.0, it has a Windows CE plugin you can download and you'll see the CE device like a drive. Maybe that'll help.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] kalex:
palmop,

tried total commander, same result. read only can't delete. looks like its locked on ExtROM 1.03.20

alex
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
Well, mine's locked as well, and I'm using 1.60 :(

What now then? What happens when the update comes out? can I flash it again?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
Did you try to change the File Attributes, they are read only by default and you cannot overwrite them, but Total Commander can change the attributes.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] kalex:
yep. tried it. its doesn't do anything. it has a file attribute of ROM

killerchung's method should work and i'll try it later today or tommrow
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mgolanlan:
more strange stuff on 1.60

anybody else notice these?

1. "running programs" program is no longer in "programs"

2. the GPRS duration is now displayed in the phone popup

3. the programs on the "start menu" don't show up in "programs"

4. changing the "start menu" require soft-reset before it is updated

5. the Games have a link to a non-existing game ...

6. actually need soft-resets more often than before (for me)

7. the Bluetooth icon on the bottom is gone!

All in all, this is yet another version that didn't have enough QA.

State of the art hardware, state of piss software.

Welcome to the Micro$oft experience.

What would you like to reinstall today?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] ming:
Re: more strange stuff on 1.60

that's werid

did not encounter this in my case .

did anyone else face this problems
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
1. Some apps have been removed, including running programs, ussd, bpinsert, etc. Most of the functionality is still there, they are mostly converted into dlls.

2. Haven't seen that

3. What do you mean by that?

4. Not for me.

5. Not for me, maybe you didn't do a hard reset after upgrade?

6. So far much less resets.

7. I have the icon.

It sounds like your device might have the issue. I am using MDA II from Germany.

On a side note, it seems like the device turns itself on more ofter for no reason these days, I pick up the device from my belt, open the cover to find out it has been turned on. Weird, the button lock is in place. I thought it was the Piel Frama case, but it happens with the original case as well.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] akira:
what do you think about this one, :idea:

my home made carkit has 1 connector

wich charged the pda, has a USB cable ready, has the serial connection to my GPS and audio is going into my car stereo, and a externa mic ampliefier, pin 19 has been grounded so audio would only come out through the connector

all functions worked :lol:

now i updated the mda2 with the rom, and audio isnt going trough the connector anymore, it now just goes through its own speaker :evil:

gonna test the lines to see if they are broken, but that would be rather impossible..

been working on that car kit for 3 weeks and now it would just give another problem ! aaaargh
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
Nice, i want that for my MDA II too :)

Did you connect a external Mic too ? How did you do that ?

Because the internal mic. no longer works if you ground Pin_19 afaik, you don't have a mic. for useing the phone....
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] LanceM:
I upgraded to 4.01.00 a week ago and have only noticed a couple of issues..

The volume is lower even on speakerphone than it was before.

Call log now pulls up the dial menu, but you can click on call history from there to access the old call log.

Im struggling with memory to get some games running.. Most need like 10 megs free and Im lucky to have that without having to reboot the device first...

With those problems listed, I still LOVE the upgrade and would never consider going back...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] akira:
jpiek,

i bought a simple mono sound aplifier build it yourself kit

like 10 dolars i think

then power it up

connect the proper wires

and i use a nokia carkit mic as a mic
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
No additions to the mic, like amplification ? Just one-on-one ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mgolanlan:
more strange stuff on 1.60

a follow up to my own post:

1. didn't anyone else notice the GPRS TIMEING is now displayed

if you click on the phone-level (popup to turn phone off etc)

this is nice!

2. I've no idea why the games error showed up,

program->games has "Icon" - click it ->

error mesg: "ceshell.dll,-52 cannot find"

this isnt a real issue

3. my BT is working fine, but the BT ICON (bottom right disappeared!

can someone tell me how to get it back?

did i delete something from the windows\startup ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
You could but BTicon.lmk back in the \windows\startup but why should you ? It takes another process from the max. of 32...

btw, i still use the org. ROm, and removed BTicon. After a fresh reboot i have only 23 processes now :D
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] smartphone4u:
Extended ROM Switch is more comfortable ;)
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
With the new rom, i still have bt icon,but it is not in startup
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] :
It's in German. What the hell does it do?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] smartphone4u:
If those looks at shreenshots, then you can recognize it easily - the program is in English. The program recognizes whether the Extended ROM it is visible or not and switches if necessary into the other mode.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] alkandery75:
Any clue yet ? ! :cry:
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] mgolanlan:
ok i must be stupid

but how the ?#%^#%&*?%^ do you know the number of

processes running on the system?

I've been looking for a 3rd party "task manager"

that really shows all proceses, memory usage, etc ... but found none.

I've NO bticon.* in my system ... where do you have it located (in 1.60)?

The reason I want it is to quickly turn bt on/off ...

I hate menu->setting->connection->bluetooth...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] jpiek:
Re: ok i must be stupid

PHM Taskmanager (windows alike)

I still use ROM 1.03 :roll: I see no need for a onofficial update...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] rpc:
Re: ok i must be stupid

Can anyone Please send me the link where I can download the T-mobile 1.6 Update, thanks in advance
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] apatrick:
has anyone noticed if the calculator app is now the proper 2002/2003 version or if it is still the clunky old one?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] joparp:
With this Rom 1.60, the calculator is still the old one.
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Tuningszocske:
TomTom with the new 1_60ROM

Hi all!

I have a question here. The bluetooth option in the new 1.60ROM is now avaliable for COM4 and COM5.

But my problem is the TomTomGPS utility doesn't know the port COM5 just COM1,2,6,9 + infrared + serial on USB.

So, any idea how can I use my BluetoothGPS with TomTom?

(It works with other GPS-prog with COM5)

thx
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] boldi:
Re: Some interesting things on the T-Mobile 1.60 update soft

i lost my rom by put the xda 1 rom in the new xda2 that i have. can you mail to my the link to get the new rom and to run it on my fhone .is daed

thanks.s.o.s

roni@dagil.co.il
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] goodman:
:lol:

there is an OFFICIAL UPGRADE ready and existing, but not yet PUBLIC,

it is one nice 40 MB RUU file which will uprgade your unit to english language:

Microsoft Pocket PC version 4.20.0 (Build 13252)

ROM version: 1.60.00WWE

ROM date: 12/03/03

Radio version: 1.06.01

Protocol version: 1337.16

ExtROM version: 1.60.06

Indirizzo http://xda-developers.com/incoming/rom160wwe/RUU16006WWE_T-mobile_NL.exe

IT'S FANTASTIC AND EASY BY THE USB CRADLE
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] palmop:
And fyi, T-Mobile DE has already released official 1.60 upgrade...
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] Rajaik:
NL Rom

Can i update to the new NL Rom using just my O2 supplied USB craddle? do i need sd card and stuff ?
[MDA II, XDA II, 2060 ROM Development] sonadt:
Re: NL Rom

Absolutely you can. Do not install extended ROM automatically, try to install some needed applications only.