yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
Ok, but looking from the other side: if it's not a rocket science then what stops Samsung from release update? Ace 2 was sold with outdated os at the time of its premiere...

The other phones "from the list" received updates...

I'm not complaining, because I knew what I buy, but justifying Samsung in that case, by making the update trivial thing, or even by making jokes on customers who wait for update, isn't a good behavior for Samsung's employee

Wysyłane z mojego GT-I8160 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] izap:
And you think Im not working for my money? i know they are not free.

If you don't have money you sit and whine or you do something about it and go to work?

Ace2 was great bang-for-buck mid range. Even without JB update. And it will get update.

But they are at least making this updates. In oppose to competition and their 1-1,5 year old models.

About selling new phones - that's not really a case here.

The moment they announce update they gave up on a lot of sales because people who waited 2 months will wait 2 more to get update instead of changing to new phone.

Still better than crying on developer forum :)

---------- Post added at 11:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:47 PM ----------

Mid-range in moment of its release. Its 2013 already.

Same as S1 was a flagship, would you call it low-end because it's low-end in 2013-spec?
[Galaxy Ace II General] michal89chz:
Year ago Ace 2 was mid-range but not now.

( Mid-range? No way...for me mid-range > NOW < is S2. (hardware)
[Galaxy Ace II General] malamharian:
Stop. The title is JellyBean news/rumors.
[Galaxy Ace II General] WahyuGo:
So far...what have you done? You shout out in many threads, if you don't like me or even Samsung...go to your Grandpa, and then ask him to buy Xperia Z.
[Galaxy Ace II General] michal89chz:
Ok thanks :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
Hello, I live in Norway and I spoke on a Live Chat about update for Ace 2 and they said that they don't have information about date, but update will come. I think it would be great if some of us go to Live Chat and speak with Samsung because obviously Samsung in Ukraine gives phony dates, and it would be more beneficiary to talk to UK Samsung perhaps, or India etc.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Bogzilla:
ON TOPIC I am talking right now to live support, they were unable to say anything about any update to our phone. We should just connect it to kies or OTA and check.

They also specified about network branded handsets, as for them to receive a green light from the operator before any OS is released to the handset. Yet, when asked about network free devices, it was specified that Samsung technicians would give a green light for it to be released.

In short, they have no idea about any update for the device, they do not know if any update will be released for the Ace 2. In short, pray and check daily. ON TOPIC

Oh, and I am so sorry that I am whining here regarding updates or what nots, but as I recall, I bought this device specifically for it being a bang for buck with an update planned to a future version of Android OS. Gingerbread was the only trade off for this device. I am truly sorry Samsung for being such an ungrateful customer and wanting more from my device. If I really wanted Gingerbread I would have stuck around with my Optimus One. Oh, wait... My old Optimus One has JB running.

And no, I am not a developer. Furthermore, there is very little interest towards Ace 2. Yes, I am here for dev help. Yes, I am here because I want more from my device. Is this so bad? So out of place?
[Galaxy Ace II General] laolaxyz:
JB is out ?!?

I didn't read all the messages in this thread - may be I missed the point that JB is already out for some regions or variants (I am located in Germany and using the 8160P)...Or are you discussion about a JB 4.2.2 update ?:confused:

What I did last week end - connect the Ace2 to the comupter where Kies was running. There came a message that a new firmware is available and after 1h the firmware was downloaded and the the phone upgraded to JB 4.1.2 wjhile keeping all the data and apps...

On Sammobile is also the lates firmwar available for flashing.

The phone wasn't rooted.

Honestly - the performance is not as good as with GB - it is much nicer but also much more laggy than before...

If I missed the real point of discussion - I jgnore this post :silly:
[Galaxy Ace II General] Adriangbba6:
What baseband you had after upgrade it to jb?

Can you post screenshot :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] JuraP:
Real point of discussion is, that nobody from Germany or Spain gave (except you now) a report, that he really has an official JB 4.1.2 update in his phone.Other countries (inclusive France, Croatia, Czech Republic - where GT-I8160P is sold) are still waiting and rumours thread serves to give info about dates of updates releases in different countries. About the lag - try to factory-reset (I know it´s pain in the a..), but it helps mostly a little bit.

PS: it would be great if you could post few screenshots of your updated Ace 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] laolaxyz:
Well - as far as I know the JB update is a multi language update - so it should be work also for other countries (at least during the istallation you can choos different languages) -> www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=GT-I8160P&pcode=0#firmware

Again - I did it via Kies and it worked fine. Regarding the screenshot - this is a bit difficult because this is actually the phone of my wife - and I am at work right now... May be tomorrow...
[Galaxy Ace II General] dels07:
The people in German should get Kies update for their i8160P as stated in samfirmware (noted the kies icon), Spain people can't update via Kies right now, but the firmware available.

So whats the point discussing the availability of JB update for P version? It would make sense if the discussion about firmware stability and issue (lag, bug, etc)
[Galaxy Ace II General] michal89chz:
We have CM10 (thanks Sakura Team and the rest) so official is not really needed...
[Galaxy Ace II General] dels07:
IMHO official firmware means updated properiety library for CM10, so why you say it not needed? Also updated source code based on official firmware would be great for CM development
[Galaxy Ace II General] NZ John:
'L' Variant of the phone has yet to have a release. Once we have that, all the models of the Ace 2 will be able to be upgraded.
[Galaxy Ace II General] WahyuGo:
The updates should be coming this month...

But we don't know why Samsung still not push it to Kies Server.

Some user in Indonesia has been reported that XXMD4 ( upgrade available only on SSC) still has same issue like XXMB4, and then they said even better stuck with XXMC8.

I think, Samsung will be update it to JB when all issue has been fixed...IMHO.

---------- Post added at 07:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:38 AM ----------

Today they update P varian again...it's not right buddy.

http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I8160P

---------- Post added at 07:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 AM ----------

What a pitty, look on Sammobile 2 latest regions get JB, unfortunately it's for P varian again.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Bogzilla:
Well, P variant can be considered the top model of the Ace 2 line-up.

In other news, I saw someone buy a La Fleur Edition here in Romania, and when it finalized the boot up sequence I saw the jelly bean touch wiz and graphics. I asked her about the software version, but she refused to give me an answer and I did not insist. She was very touchy when I asked her about it.

So, there seems to be a La Fleur edition in the wild with Jelly Bean. Yet, I have no clue about build or version of the build.
[Galaxy Ace II General] mkel91:
I just want to say this: my friend had got official updates to his s advance via kies, but he has the same issue like our mb4 or mc8..So maybe they got update before, but it's still bugged

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] JuraP:
Others versions out

OK, 4.1.2 version for GT-I8160P for Germany and O2 Czech is out... It seems like the P version should be updated pretty soon...

I8160XXMC8 (BTU - United Kingdom) is also out...... Looks like snowball is rolling down the slope
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
There is UK mc8 on Sammobile

Wysyłane z mojego GT-I8160 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] michal89chz:
old ****...
[Galaxy Ace II General] monstro78:
looks like is unbranded eu version...
[Galaxy Ace II General] Rox:
yeah but who cares, we have CM :p
[Galaxy Ace II General] mkel91:
Mc8 is like mc4, only unbranded

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] judas1977:
Sure, but unavailable for Odin so far

Wysyłane z mojego GT-I8160 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] samer menla:
well you are right but cm has anoyest bug on camcorder

go to news and he tells that camcorder and video decoding will never be fixed

---------- Post added at 11:30 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 AM ----------

lol im afraid to test it so i dont brick my phone again like i did in jb chinese
[Galaxy Ace II General] WahyuGo:
Coz missing OMX from STEricsson, and we're not a Vendor that can get full support from STE...

I agree with you, Official is better than Custom Rom.
[Galaxy Ace II General] cocon1609:
Southeast Asia : indonesia , thailand , vietnam have xxmd4. why xxmd4 not publish:confused:
[Galaxy Ace II General] forbidden8:
Welcome to the "wonder land" aka. Samsung.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
Jelly Bean

:D

OFFICIAL KIES JELLY BEAN ARRIVED TODAY IN THE UK.

Is the MC8 unbranded...

If you update on kies you get only the same amount of ram you have on GB aka (550).

There is a link available on sammobile as well...

Product Code: BTU

PDA: I8160XXMC8

CSC: I8160BTUMC8

MODEM: I8160XXMC8

:D Happy day...

Sent from my GT-I8160 on the day that pigs learned to fly...
[Galaxy Ace II General] lmcteo:
aosesso and

i'm getting mixed responses regarding flashing to the older firmware first before flashing the new one for bigger ram and flashing straight to the newest. some say smaller ram is more stable but others say there is no difference.

can you guys share your experiences for us to know which is the better method? thanks. :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
Well I think you need to try it yourself.

Different people using the phone in different ways.

I tried both ways (550) and (624) and honestly ...both suck.

I prefer 624mb ram.

But only because it suits me, doesn't mean that will suit you.

For example, I don't play games on this phone.

But I still need to do some tweaking to have the phone running smoothly in any way...

So my advice to you is try 550mb ram and if you don't like it than just flash MB4 with the Pit file to get the 624mb ram.

Than flash this MC8 on top.

Or you can just flash this MC8 on top of the TMN and after flashing that do a factory reset to make the phone run smoother.

Good luck any way.

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] thealliens:
mb2 to mc8

hello everyone! yeasterday i flashed JB mb2 with PITfile in order to have 624 Ram, now can i install the mc8 directly? and i should use the PIT againe for repartition?
[Galaxy Ace II General] forbidden8:
When you install mb2 with pit, now just flash mc8 as pda. That's all.
[Galaxy Ace II General] thealliens:
thanks for the quick answer! i just presed thanks button! today after wark i will do that!
[Galaxy Ace II General] shibumi77:
More RAM is always the best choice, I don't have any stability problems, but you will face more lag with less memory.

BTW, I'm using the rom "Italian Job", and it works much better than the officials.
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
Help

Can i flash my i8160 branded but unlocked with the jelly bean updates whether branded or not branded?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
:D Yes you can.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
Without having to re-unlock it?[/QUOTE]

Why do you want to complicate things by locking your phone again?

Your phone was only locked by the network provider not by the factory.
[Galaxy Ace II General] berndtmiklos:
MC8 BTU no lags so far

Guys,

some days ago I flashed MB4. It lagged like hell. Then I flashed MC8 TMN over it WITHOUT data wipe and it still lagged. Yesterday I flashed MC8 BTU over it, did a full data wipe: so lags so far. Lag only appears when using the stock video player.

Jelly bean is here!
[Galaxy Ace II General] ccnky:
On other forums I read opinions that MC8 (TMN/BTU) runs smoother without repartitioning (with 550MB RAM). Can anybody confirm that?

edit: sorry, wrong thread. Please move this post to Q&A.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
After a major update like a new firmware.

You need to do a factory reset.

That is a must because the old files and links on your phone will eventually conflict with the new firmware, causing lags and faulty apps.

If you flash MB4 or TMN again today and do a factory reset after the update, you will find out the same results...
[Galaxy Ace II General] berndtmiklos:
1.: sorry guys, I meant: NO lags so far.

2.: I completely agree. I didn't want to say that BTU was better than TMN. Both seem to be the same MC8. Just do a full data wipe and it will be smooth and pleasingly usable.
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
with the recent UK update availabe, do i still have to flash with the leaked MB4 before the original in order to get a ram of 638mb or i just flash with the lastest straight away and still get 638mb?
[Galaxy Ace II General] monstro78:
no flash first mb4
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
i cant find the pit file in the mb4 rom. How do i get it. Or i dont need the pit file to get the 624mb ram?
[Galaxy Ace II General] monstro78:
did you download the mb4 zip file???

did you unzip the file???

I remember that there are 4 files inside... the one is pit and you need it to go to 624mb
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
how did you do it man. Can you post the link you used. Please?

---------- Post added at 03:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

i did all that but found just two files in there. Can you post the link where i can find the one with pit file?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
Check your private messages and read the instructions carefully.

There is a Pit file included.

:D is 624mb Ram.
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
how stable is it so far with the gingerbread?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
You need to try it for yourself.

Is pointless to make claims about how stable it is, when we all use the phone in different ways and with different user apps.

Is stable enough just like GB is.
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
Ok I think I might have to finally do it tomorrow, I hope all goes well because it's my first time to flash an

Android phone. Is your phone rooted and is yes how did you do it?:)
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
So I was very interested does other phones like Galaxy S Advance have 550 mb ram in JB. And NO, they DON'T have. Galaxy S Advance has 555 mb ram in GB, and 625 MB RAM IN JB. They upgraded with Kies, and why do they have 625 mb ram when upgraded with Kies and not 550 mb, because THAT IS OFFICIAL SAMSUNG FIRMWARE!!! I don't think that all firmwares up to date are official, not TMN, not UK release, not MC2/4/8 neither. I think when official firmware comes, someday, we will have 625 mb ram and stable release. I think for the time being we need to stick with GB.
[Galaxy Ace II General] speckyteye:
unless you want to mean that people have access to the source of the Samsung Kies which i really doubt. how about those how updated through Kies? i guess is your opinion.
[Galaxy Ace II General] arroyo:
I confirm that i9070 have official KIES update of JB. My wife's phone was KIES updated from GB to JB a while ago with I9070XXLQE. And she have 625MB RAM available now.
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
thanks for proving my point. When update arrives I am certain that we will have 625 mb ram and it will be smooth. I just flash GB again after being several days on UK release of jb. I can confirm that battery, multitasking and performance overall is better in GB. So I think it is best to wait an official update. Sammobile said it will come for midrange devices in may/june, so lets cross our fingers and hope that we will get it in june.
[Galaxy Ace II General] wiseman911:
The "official" release date...

Yeah, may/june but they forgot to mention the year, which is probably 2014 or 2015 :)

That's what they said with Q3 2012, then October 2012, then Q4 2012, then the beginning of March, then 22 of March, then 22 of April, then 22 of May, and now... maybe... 22 of July. I'm not kidding, those are the semi-official/rumoured release dates that I can remember of...
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
??? I am really trying to understand you.

The firmware is official.

People are updating their phones using "Kies".

The ram you get after the update is the same ram you get on GB.

Is fully functional on 555mb Ram.

So if is not broken, than there is no need to fix it.

There is no point in trying to compare this phone with other phones.

Is different hardware and different specs:

And this is a low budget handset.

The leaked firmware MB2/MB4 gives you the 624mb ram.

Galaxy Ace 2 cpu:

Dual-core 800 MHz

*Galaxy S Advance cpu:

Dual-core 1 GHz Cortex-A9

*GalaxyS 3 mini cpu:

1 GHz dual-core Cortex-A9

Galaxy S 2 cpu:

Dual-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A9

...yes we might see another update eventually...

...we might age a bit while waiting for that.

And if the Ace 3 is being released this summer than they might be more busy with that.

Sent from my GT-I8160 using Jelly Bean MC8-BTU 624mb Ram.
[Galaxy Ace II General] mkel91:
strange, on S advance you get 624mb of ram, after kies update..
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
I am saying that devices like Galaxy S Advance and Galaxy Young have both 786 ram and both in JB have exactly 625 ram. And I could understand that because of hardware or price tag or whatever we don't have 625 ram, but i saw on YouTube Galaxy S Advance in GB with 555 mb and in JB with 625 ram. I don't know why is UK release available through Kies but that update is MC8 release as TMN one. And when Galaxy S Advance got official update, it spreaded within 1-2 days to all countries. With UK release that's not the case. I've personally tried UK release thinking that it's official but i got freezes after some days and I couldn't write a message without freezes. When i spoke with Samsung Norway where i live they told me that they don't know when will update come but it will come. So i personally think when it arrives we will get stable update like GB is right now. I get your reasons to doubt but I personally think that UK release is not finished product and until end of June we will get finished Samsung update.
[Galaxy Ace II General] ramanmono:
Our device doesnt have Real RAM

So, just like how u can change the amount of dedicated graphics memory of a those integrated videocards, by just changing it in the bios, nothing has to be repartitioned, those other devices can do the same because they have real dedicated RAM.

Our device has a different shared RAM that is more like flash memory.

---------- Post added at 04:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:32 PM ----------

So is there ever gonna be jelly bean versions to download, or is it gonna be only SSC updates for the L version.

It's been so long since the first leak and not even 1 firmware for the L version is available to download.

And I guess there won't be any CM for the L too?
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
Galaxy S Advance, Galaxy Beam, Galaxy Ace 2 are all powered with the same chipset, NovaThor U8500. The only deifference is that our Ace 2 is underclocked to 800 mhz for battery life. With that being said, I think that chipset determines type of ram. If you're suggesting that they took RAM from gpu to add to RAM memory I think it would be impossible because if you take 70MB ram from GPU, GPU would be useless. My guess is that Samsung started to develop JB for Galaxy Ace 2 and that's why we have repartition pit from mb2/4, in the process of pushing galaxy s4 and preparing for other mobile releases, they temporarily stopped developing for Ace 2 and focused more on newer/more selling devices to update. I think that when final build comes to our phones through kies, we will have 625 mb ram as others and we will have stable build. The only question is when, but we will get it I am sure of it.
[Galaxy Ace II General] fifo171:
You still don't get it. The UK update is official. You can install it using Kies.

BTW There was an update for i8160P (DBT csc) and it had only 550 MB RAM, too. I installed it using Kies.
[Galaxy Ace II General] kohrangi:
Anyone Know about release date? :(
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
What release date?

JB is here.
[Galaxy Ace II General] TheWolf59:
Not for all country, and some people can't flash because they have baseband unknown..
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37914331

Although I'm pointing you to a useful thread.

...But just noticed that you already successfully tried it before.

Now I'm just confused about why you complaining about it ?!

JB is here in the UK and is unbranded.

Other countries might follow

In some Asian countries you can update to MD4 at the SSC, Not Kies.

So maybe you should make your own enquiries.

Best of luck to you buddy.

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
I get that, but what I am saying whole time is that it isn't finished, I believe that we will get other updates, maybe md1 or md4 and then will be 625 ram like the rest of devices with 768 ram.
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
:what:

The MC8 is the Finished product.

If this wasn't the Finished product than it wouldn't be available officially with Kies.

Please try to understand this:

(Flashing the "Leaked" MB2/MB4 firmware you are able to get the 624mb Ram)

But you will not get that amount of ram if you update using Kies.

If Samsung wanted to give you more ram? Than they would've give you the MB4 instead.

:rolleyes: But no they didn't.

So stop day dreaming and just accept the facts.

Your obsession with comparing this handset with the "S Advance" is unhealthy.

And if you stop and read for a minute than you might realize that there is more resemblance between the "S Advance" and the "S3 mini".

More than any resemblance to this device.
[Galaxy Ace II General] psychoo83:
Don't want to ruin your arguments but didn't the S2 have a leak that you could update via Kies? And it was a nasty buggy JB too.

Just saying...if it happened before it could happen again...maybe this MC8 is the same kind of leak like on S2...

My 0.02$
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
If you walk into a store in the UK and buy a new galaxy ace 2 with Jelly bean out of the box.

You will find this same MC8 BTU preinstalled on the phone.

If was leaked firmware:

-How did it found is way to the handsets that are being sold in the shops???

-Would Samsung released it first as TMN and than as BTU as well ??? Ouch... that makes 2 official leaks after the original leaks...

I give up...

Conspiracy theorists only see what they want to see.

Sent from my GT-I8160
[Galaxy Ace II General] berndtmiklos:
Could anyone catch a glimpse of how much ram the preinstalled JB has?
[Galaxy Ace II General] Smokey Mc Pot:
Follow the link and ask the owner.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=41361839
[Galaxy Ace II General] TheWolf59:
I can flash with 2.3.6 custom rom but I CAN'T flash with JB, your link is useless for me.... I tried many time... and I saw this link 10 000 times :eek:
[Galaxy Ace II General] spokipoki:
The preinstalled MC8 has got 624 MB of usable RAM
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
Did you bought Galaxy Ace 2 from the store with JB on it, and you have 624 mb of RAM?
[Galaxy Ace II General] spokipoki:
correct
[Galaxy Ace II General] zahirovic.safet:
Thank you for sharing that.