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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
i didn't think i was b/c i had done an account reset a while back. but come to think of it i might still have been b/c i remember a message a few days ago about supersu was updated. can a rooted phone stay rooted despite resetting your phone?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Most likely your error was caused because you did not restore stock APKs that you removed. Am I wrong?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
it was stock with nothing removed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Wow. Then my only guess is that you did not restore permissions to the correct folders prior to updating. Last update, I did this via ES File Explorer w/o unrooting.

This may give me pause on updating since Sprint is very vague on the update except for DC enhancements which I don't really use. If we were going to v4.2.2, it might be worth the risk.

Thanks for your quick replies, and sorry for your loss :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slimbobaggins:
Eh, I saw this:

But yes of course, it doesn't matter if it's not on the latest OTA, or if the superuser app doesn't work with it. Comprehension fail on my part.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VicFreeze:
The Superuser app (or any other SU permissions handler) working correctly is integral to having success with any other apps that require root. I am working on trying different methods to extract the stock recovery (though I should have thought to pull it from the recent update if it was packed in there). If we can pull that, then maybe the CWM Builder can build us a version for our devices. It may be something someone can get done easily, but I have a demanding day job over this way and don't have a lot of decent awake time to commit to it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
How do you do that? I might just buy the Torque, because I feel consistent root is going to be here any day now. Definitely could live with just root and no 4.2 roms. But could I live without root? Hmm...

Kinda off-topic, but how do you guys like the "Sonic Speaker Technology" or whatever it's called? Notice any problems with clarity? Anybody actually tried it with headphones on?

And btw, VicFreeze... there is no "touch to focus" on the Torque. Not sure why Kyocera removed that function from the camera app. But there should still be some type of auto focusing present.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VicFreeze:
Pulling the recovery.img from the device requires root to perform a ROM dump or you can, possibly, copy the OTA files and dig through them for an intact recovery file. I am not sure what you mean by root arriving "any day now" because this stuff does not just "drop"...as I stated before, this is pretty much all of the development actively discussed at the moment so what you see is what we have (unless someone is quietly working on something to just hand to us). As for the camera issue I, personally, have, I am aware of the camera software features. The problem I have is, likely, a hardware issue (or possibly a software relay) with the lenses not moving to focus before snapping any shot. I have 2 Torques, so I know how it is supposed to work, though it doesn't. I am going to factory reset it once more and then take in it and have Sprint check it out and, possibly, replace it with my TEP. This is not an entertainment device for me, so I have not tried to use the headphone jack other than with my Square reader. The Sonic Speaker Technology does make this thing sound incredibly loud with regard to device sounds but I do not actually use it for many calls as I use Google Voice and have my calls relayed to an alternate cell phone. I am not sure how the headphone jack would apply to that technology though, because it is a speaker feature and not sound processing. I stick to either the S4 and Note 2 for my entertainment.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
The speakerphone speakers are extra loud, yes, but the Sonic Speaker bit is actually only used when placing calls with it next to your head. There is no speaker hole for the receiver, so it supposedly uses vibrations to create "tissue inducting audio" or something like that. When I asked about using it with headphones on, you are supposedly able to hear it with headphones, ear muffs, helmets, etc.

As for copying the OTA files... I assume root with 1.006 would be needed, the file(s) might be copied to /tmp, but how would you copy it before it goes to flash itself?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VicFreeze:
I was not aware of the speaker technology only being in use while on calls. I knew that the phone had no earpiece in the traditional sense, so I guess that is what is supposed to be the reason for it. You would know more than I do, because I do not really use it as a phone...yet. And you should not need root to grab the OTA files, I don't think. They may sit in either tmp or cache somewhere but they also may be encryped.... I am not sure though. I have given this project a bunch of time I don't have so I will have to revisit this later this weekend. I am as far as adb shell root and looking around the file system but no app recognition of root access. I am hoping someone out there can chime in with any information that can aid us in possibly getting a new su binary to replace what we have or possibly a binary in conjunction with a different Superuser app than what motochopper installs (it uses CWM's). While shell rooted, you can navigate around the file structure and modify whatever, so, hopefully, we can use motochopper for the first part and then modify what is needed to push it all of the way through. I will peek in every now and then but anything further from me will have to wait until the end of the weekend.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
I just bought a Torque for $50. And it appears that the Sonic Speaker stuff actually does vibrate the screen on speakerphone, or when playing music thru speakerphone speakers.... so it DOES actually come into play that way. But I'm fairly certain it's not used when "on" headphones, just can be used "thru" headphones by touching the top of the phone to the headphones, earmuffs, etc. Pretty cool. And the speakerphone is louder than I thought it'd be.

Pretty sure I'll be keeping it, but I'd definitely enjoy the phone a lot more if it's rooted. So somebody better help me figure out how to root this thing!!

I don't have a Windows machine in order to use SuperOneClick, which is apparently needed in addition to motochopper. So I'll have to run over to a friend's house and run those apps and hopefully I'll be able to find the recovery.img rom.

EDIT: Maybe this Kyocera Echo 1-Click Root app could come in useful??

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1328750
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systemshock869:
I'm ordering a Torque right now.. I hope root is achieved! Looks like a great phone. What needs to happen for a phone to get it's own forum here on xda?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oscarthegrouch:
A HELL of a lot more activity and popularity than what this phone has been generating since its release.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systemshock869:
So unfortunate, this is a gem of a phone - I would KILL for some cyanogenmod action!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VicFreeze:
This phone may be getting the boot after the S4 Active drops this summer. I am going to poke around with it a little more later today and then let it be.

Side note: I have a brand new in box Torque up for grabs if anyone wants one cheap (please don't reprimand me for the plug, lol).

UPDATE: Torque has been sold
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systemshock869:
Shameless

xD
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Bump! Really considering one to replace my aging Epic, with the hopes of LTE soon in my market. But with no teathering and AdBlock software, installable from root, I can't survive w/o root.

How's the battery life been, from anyone that has one? That's one of the main reasons I want one (that, and its 4" screen).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] oscarthegrouch:
The battery life is decent and, at least on a car charger, recharging is not at a snail's pace like previous phones. The s4 charges a little faster and the lte speeds are faster. For what the torque is, it's a decent midrange phone. The screen resolution and size are its biggest shortcomings. If you set the camera to HDR everything, it makes up for the default bland pictures. It's a decent and well built midrange phone. It does, once and awhile, when (unfairly) compared to an s4, lose data connection. I haven't figured out why yet. No phone is perfect but it's a good little phone that won't break the back, so to speak. Damned shame there's no root yet. If I could get root to use adblock and freeze or delete bloat and edit system files, it would be an awesome phone. I don't care about custom recovery or roms. I just want to tweak what is already there. I also realize that any updates would be broken if apps were frozen or files changed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systemshock869:
Those apps install a recovery partition that may or may not be very phone specific.. I sure won't be trying something like that on my device!

I bought the torque.. it was a great little phone. With cm10 it would be absolutely killer! I was within my grace period though and saw the HTC one on wirefly for 130.. couldn't pass it up

sent from the $#!++/ xda app
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VicFreeze:
Yeah, man...you do not want to blindly start attempting processes without understanding them. "One-clicks" are quite dangerous when you are trying to mix & match...if you look at the script, many Kyocera one-click root methods involve flashing a custom recovery and that is a huge no-no on devices not specifically designed for that script, as you can destroy your stock recovery or, even worse, kill your 's boot if you flash something else while in fastboot.

If you know what you are doing, go for it...otherwise, just chill and let something develop (or not). Do not just post "try this" links irresponsibly though, because many novices will blindly click them, try them and ruin their devices then come back to cry for help...if I've seen it once, I've seen it a dozen times.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Has anyone been able to get a hotspot app to work w/o root, such as FoxFi?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
Hence my disclaimer that I am not goin to try it. I'm sure there must be more official disclaimers elsewhere on this site saying that everyone who participates is responsible for their own actions, etc.

But I figure pointing to the somewhat similar Kyocera Rise could potentially be worth looking into. It's a start.

I still have version 1.006, even tho the newer 1.007 firmware has been downloaded. Do you know of a way I can search for these files?? I'm thinking that it's merely a patch instead of complete firmware... but am not grasping how to find the new files. There aren't too many worthwhile folders that are available for me to view without root. I have just been using an Android app ( X-plore ) to view the filesystem. I am assuming that I should attempt using ADB in order to connect over USB, right? I am not new to Linux, but this is definitely my first Android phone. Been using WebOS for 4 years now, and rooting those phones was a piece of cake. Hated the fragmentation of Android, but I love the apps... so I guess it's time to start picking this baby apart. But I could certainly use some pointers leading me in the right direction. No sense in "chilling and waiting" to get a feel for the OS and if there is a trend in Kyocera's alteration of it.

I tried 2.12 and 2.12.7 apks and was unable to get either one to function properly. :(

Perhaps an older version could potentially work? Or PDANet?? Guessing it's not likely, tho...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigGP:
+1 on getting root for this phone. Just picked it up this weekend and am loving it. My old EVO 4G (original Wimax version) was getting unstable on me. Mainly want root for Link2SD and tethering capabilities. Only things I'm missing.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
not sure what restore permissions means. edit: i seem to remember that had something to do with cwm? or was that fix permissions? i can still get into fastboot and download mode. is it possible for me to put a prior .img file on the phone or something? i don't really know much about all this stuff.. or is my phone basically a paperweight now?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
new update

Took the update on factory reset phone. then rerooted easily with framaroot. haven't noticed anything big with the update, still on 4.1.2
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
anyone happen to know how much it would cost to send back to kyocera for repair? it took over two weeks for them to reply to my email, and all they said was "Sprint has their own repair centers and they can help you as well, since they are the ones that push the updates over the air to their customer. If you downloaded their update without having the phone active. That could have caused the software to fail."

But since I'm no longer with sprint that isn't an option.. at least i don't think sprint would be willing to help if i'm not a customer.

edit: i found the info on the kyocera website. looks like it would be about $30 MINIMUM ($19+ s/h). considering i paid $30 for it on ebay i'm not sure its worth it.

Tier 1 Software

$19.00 USD (Software upgrade â€“ no components required)

Tier 2 Repair

$39.00 USD (ex. Component replacements)

Tier 3 Repair

$69.00 USD (ex. LCD & Touch Panel replacements, extensive damage)

Shipping & Handling

$9.50 USD (for un-approved quotes or un-repairable phones)

Note: Not all phones are repairable. Severe damage may render your phone un-repairable. In this case, your phone will be returned unrepaired and the Shipping & Handling rate will apply. If you opt not to pay return shipping, Kyocera will hold your phone for 60 days and then recycle it. You will not be contacted before it is recycled.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
Are you still under the 1 year warranty? What exactly is wrong with the phone? Are you rooted?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
i don't think warranty applies since i got it off ebay.

the last update fried my phone. booting up just causes "Error 8713: Fatal Error. Service required. Please contact your service provider".
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
I would call Kyocera and tell them something's wrong and your not sure what happened and tell them you don't remember when you purchased the phone and to check and see if its still under warranty. Playing dumb always works in your favor. My wife's phone was rooted and something happened and they replaced it under the 1 year warranty no problem.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
well that didn't work unfortunately. first they asked what service provider, i said sprint. then they immediately said i needed to contact sprint since it was sprint that pushed the phone update. they didn't ask for my phone model or anything.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Are you able to get it to boot into recovery or fastboot?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
yes, i can access both.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Have you tried flashing the img files through fastboot? I think that will be the only way you will get it fixed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
edit: i no longer have the backup .img files
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] douro20:
I personally have tried doing so without any success. Was able to copy over and install the images but the phone will not boot. Does anyone have a baseband radio image?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Use these commands

Fastboot erase boot

Fastboot flash boot boot.img

Fastboot erase system

Fastboot flash system.img

Fastboot erase userdata

You will want to run these commands from the same folder that contains the img files. The recovery.img most likely does not need to be reflashed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
thanks, i've made it up to Fastboot flash boot boot.img part and it is saying writing 'boot' but its taking forever.

edit: wow! it took 45 minutes to flash the boot.img but it finally completed.

on the next part i typed in Fastboot flash system.img and said "cannot determine image file name for system.img"

i've read in some guides they mention typing fastboot flash system system.img instead

edit 2: fastboot flash system system.img worked. unfortunately after going through all this i still got the dreaded "Error 8713: Fatal Error. Service required. Please contact your service provider" message :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
i tried the whole process again today. at least it only took 1 second to flash the boot.img this time. no idea why it took 45 minutes to complete last night. but the result was still the same. so it seems as though the phone is nothing more than a paperweight now.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Do you know which version you are flashing? I have a copy you could try. Have to wait till my wife gets home to check which version it is.

Odd that your boot.img took 45 mins. Should only taken a couple of seconds. Sounding like you might have a hardware failure.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
It is a hardware failure. Mine did the same thing. Still haven't figured out how to fix it, but I can get it to boot. If you want to pull your files off of it, run fastboot boot boot.img. This should allow it to boot. Then you can probably find the nv failure under hardware version. You can do this boot up as many times as you want, but you have to have a computer to turn it back on if you shut it off. I found it easiest to use fastboot erase recovery, then trying to boot into recovery will automatically start fastboot mode instead of using the other combination.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
using fastboot boot boot.img worked. i was able to get past the error message. looking under settings i don't see any failure messages though. hardware version says 010b, software says 2300sp, baseband says 2.602sp. is baseband and software suppose to have different numbers? i never paid attention to the numbers before.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
Looks like it updated baseband but not software. Tho if you try rebooting it it may give the hardware failure but not sure, at least mine did.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Maybe some who took the 2.602 update can upload their img files for you. Or someone could make a copy of the update and you could reflash it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
well i've about had my fill of kyocera. will be my first and last one, especially since they seem to be keen on locking the bootloader according to this post http://androidforums.com/6369904-post853.html

that isn't the same phone but my gut tells me they probably take that approach to all their phones.

if any serious dev wants to take a crack at doing something with the torque send me a pm and i'll give you mine. its no use to me as an actual phone now :P

edit: mailing it to jlmancuso
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
I could take a shot at making a recovey if you really want to get rid of it. My ole lady has one but since it is her primary phone i cant do much to it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fendergrab:
Has anybody successfully rooted 2.602?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
Yep. Framaroot. Took like 30 seconds.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fendergrab:
What version and how? I tried it with the latest framaroot on XDA and it says its successful, but it doesn't install SuperSU or root it either. Tried rebooting it multiple times too.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
Newest version. Then install supersu from the play store and set the default to grant.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fendergrab:
I get stopped at installing the binaries, I chose normal install and it says failed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
kyocera torque

hey any way you could send me that boot img olso?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
can someone help me out am trying to bring my kyocera torque back to stock cause am stuck on the startup image and i can' get out of it. I've been reading about it in this forums and I think I know how to do it, all I need is the boot .img or image boot .img or something like that so i can flash it and get back to stock any help will be appreciate...:(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
I can help you out. Couple of things first. You will need a pc with your phones drivers installed and have adb/fastboot setup.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
ok then what?

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how do I set up adb/fastboot? I think a have drivers install already.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
are you there?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shinkien:
where can i find boot images for the torque? tried going into recovery mode to do a factory reset but i get the dead android on any of the three choices. surpisingly the phone still boots but i can't get a data or wifi connection on it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
If you can't connect to WiFi or data, you most likely have a corrupted baseband. This is usually a sign of hardware failure; you're wasting your time on trying to reflash.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shinkien:
thanks. do you know if you can adb push into this without rooting? figure i can just use it as a play toy for my son at this point.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Google how to install adb for ypur operating system. I will make you a dropbox link and post it in afew moments.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
ok thanks a lot.;)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Here is the boot.img link. https://db.tt/LtWnjGJV

Now you will open a terminal/cmd window and run this comand.

fastboot flash boot boot.img

Make sure your phone is booted into fastboot mode and connected via usb cable.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
kyocera torque

got it!!! now I can see my phone on adb when I go to device manager,I connected it via fastboot cause it won't boot up.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Good deal. If you need anything else let me know. Will be online for another hour or two.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
If you have the adb directory set in your cmd path then copy it to the root directory. If not copy it to the directory that fastboot is located in.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
1. Depends again if adb directory is in your cmd path. If yes then type

fastboot flash boot boot.img

fastboot reboot

If not the you will need to navigate to your adb directory. Then type those commands.

2. See my answer to 1. Lol!!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoymis3:
I try the command but it says that is not reorganized as internal or external path or something like that lol:confused:

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am sorry and thanks, am new at all this stuff but I like it!!! just let me know what to do next when you get a chance and I really appreciated all your help thanks lot:o
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Did you install adb? Not the drivers but the program.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2588979