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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
Hah...

It's definitely Power + Vol Down... Reset the phone... and the instant the screen goes black, hold it at least one whole second (anywhere up to 2 seconds) after initially seeing the Torque screen at boot up.

Alternatively, you could just download Nandroid Manager from the Market, and it will take you straight to "Recovery Mode" without any key presses, just by tapping on "Reboot into Recovery".
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
He's not looking for recovery mode. He's looking for download mode. Different beast.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] izz0218:
Alright guys, I seriously need some pointers here, I search on this and SuperSU thread and nothing similar seems similar to my situation

After rooting with Framaroot, installing SuperSU, root checker and Busybox, the only way I get root checker or busybox (or any app with root access) to gain access to root is by selecting "grant" on SU, if i have the setting on "prompt" nothing happens. On the "apps" tab on SU how do I configure an APP?

I installed binary the "normal" method

What am I doing wrong or need to do differnt?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joosep.pata:
Yeah. Thanks for the tips, but I'm having no trouble booting into stock recovery (the menu with 3 or so items) using Power + Vol Down. Unfortunately, the recovery mode is quite useless (no adb, update.zip, COM port). I'd like to get into _download_ mode, where I can flash the images.

I'm super grateful if someone figures it out! I know it should be possible by plugging in the battery and USB cable in the correct order somehow.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
may sound funny but i tried contacting kyocera customer support any they would not tell me :P i was hoping i'd get some dumb customer support helper that would not know what i was asking and give out the info hah. anyways, i hope someone will figure it out
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrossgeek:
Download mode

I swear i got it there once, into download mode with the hard keys at boot up. I know for certain that you can get the e6710 into fastboot. I use reboot widget from the play store to force fast boot, but have also had it there with the hard keys at boot.

i just tried to force download mode from said widget but no luck. I will definatly post back when i get it back into download mode. you're looking for the little dead android with the ! in the triangle comming out of his chest, right. also does anyone know where these devices have the recovery and boot partitions at i can't seem to find them. I would like to rip them out so i have some hope if I hose it while i'm screwing with it. Like i said if i figure it out before anyone else does I'll post back.

Update: adb reboot-bootloader (don't forget linux distros need su permissions to run android sdk utils.) will take it into fastboot regardless of root allowing or denying su permisions. you can flash your .img files from there. I got the stock boot and recovery images out too. i submitted to clockworkmod's builder it failed to build a custom recovery. I'll more than likely be trying to compile a custom recovery for our devices. I'll keep everyone posted.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
Can someone explain this command to me?? Or at least why the filesystem is designed to require us to give this command??

mount -o remount,rw -t yaffs2 /dev/block/mtdblock0 /system

I've used it quite a few times, but I still haven't really grasped the nature of the Android filesystem....

Primarily, why I needed to edit the /etc/hosts file... but it kept giving me a "read-only filesystem" error. Finally remembered this command and then realized that /etc/hosts is ALSO under the /system directory. It doesn't show these files as being linked, however. Perhaps these files are hardlinked, and I'm unable to see it with a simple "ls -l" command??

What other files are hard linked to the /system directory? And why is this done anyway? Obfuscation to protect the real filesystem from being written to haphazardly??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrossgeek:
mount is the command to mount a filesystem in the unix and unix-like operating systems (make them readable physical device locations) -o is options. remount is exactly what it says ,rw is read/write -t is specify file system type (ex, fat vfat ext2 ext4 yaffs yaffs2 ufs rfs) yaffs2 is the filesystem type (not 100% sure what yaffs is i think it's an android thing) /dev is the directory unix and unix-like operating systems puts its device links so /dev/block/mtdblock0 is where android linux links your system partition and /system is the directory to mount said partition to.If you need more info google "man mount" that should get you to a manpage for the mount command. bear in mind that it may not be 100% the same for every operating system and every version of mount. and android mounts your root filesystem (/) as read only. this is probly to help lock you out. as far as i know you need root on and android device to remount with read/write permissions
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SoHardcore:
My initial question of asking to explain the command itself was kinda misleading. Like I was clarifying with the next three questions, my question is revolving more around the nature of the Android filesystem.

No other Linux operating system that I've used has a read-only root filesystem with a /system folder [that's hardlinked to the actual root folder??]. That /system folder is very odd to me. Ubuntu has a /sys folder, for example, but it's used as a "virtual directory for system (both hardware and software) information". There is no duplicate filesystem created in any other Linux distro that I'm aware of. But, I'm not a complete expert in Linux filesystems. I guess you are right, tho, in that the purpose of this is to help lock you out and make 110% sure that you, or whoever, are sure of the changes they are about to make to the root-user files.

Is my understanding of this /system folder correct? Are there any other strange nuances of the Android filesystem that would be important to realize?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrossgeek:
/etc /d /vendor and /tombstones are all symlinks /etc and /vendor are symlinked to the /system folder as for /d and /tombstones i forget where they symlink to. there are no duplicate filesystems just symlinks and mount points (as far as i can tell. Whenm i setup my linux partition table i use 8 seperate partitions /boot /home /usr /var and so on this way i reinstall my o/s only leaving all my app data and what not intact. look at /system as a partition or a disk and not a folder its just a mount point is all. just like when i mount /dev/sda1 as my root ubuntu directory and /dev/sda2 as my /usr directory. I hope im helping some and don't seem like im just rambling. accoring to the fstab file in my phone it mounts the /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system (symlink to /dev/block/mmcblk0p12) partition to /system and your ubuntu distro handles the / directory a little different its owned by owner root therefore it's read only or some of it is completely dead to me if i dont have elevated access (sudo gksu, etc) there is no root user on android by default until we root our devices. you could try editing the fstab file for your device to mount /system as ,rw instead of ,ro but i dont how much it will like that. also if you didn't have root access you couldn't make those changes to the phones memory so in essence the phones partitions are untouchable unless your a developer for the phone mfgr or phone company or you've broken your eula and rooted your device. again hope my rantings are somewhat helpful
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetabolicBugg:
Custom ROM?

Is there a custom ROM for this device yet. I hate using the stock ROM it always has problems for me with every android phone I have. Even if it is just a Mirror of the Stock it would be better if someone could make one. How do we even get developers to notice that people want one for this phone. I'd pay money like $5. If everyone who wanted a custom ROM paid like $5 then I bet developers would be more incline to make these for us. I'd love a Cyanogen for this, but I'd settle for anything. I've had this phone for months and there has been nothing that I've seen for ROM development.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Are you rooted yet? That's all I really needed so I could remove the Sprint bloatware and install AdAway.

I don't believe there is that much of a fan base for the Torque. Or at least a lot of the people that are using this phone aren't tech savvy enough to know how or want to customize their firmware/ROM.

The other problem is there is no forum on XDA. There is a forum on Android forums (http://androidforums.com/kyocera-torque/), but it hasn't had much participation either. I've tried to post a few tips when I've had the chance, but I've made it low priority in posting anything since the Torque does not appear to have much interest.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetabolicBugg:
I'd gladly pay you on Tuesday for a ROM today

Yeah I have root, but the nice thing about having a custom ROM is the ability to customize more. Also if I ever brick it for any reason it is nice to have something to fall back on. As long as I can still get into recovery mode. I would like a forum for it, but like you said there might not be enough of an interest. I would definitely donate to anyone who has the know-how on ROM development to get this started. It is a really nice phone for what it is. It may sound geeky, but this is my PIP-BOY and I want to customize it and would really appreciate any help I can get.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
yeah i think for the majority who buy it are not looking for any custom roms etc. but it is a nice phone. might not have the most powerful specs, but its still quite nice and has some unique features :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetabolicBugg:
But for Cereal

I'd totally donate like at least $40 to anyone who would take it upon themselves to develop a Custom ROM for this thing without the bloatware. I can uninstall it, but I just have always been able to Install a custom ROM and it always runs smoother than the stock. I knew when I bought this phone that it didn't have any development done on it. I have played with rooting and ROMs enough where I am interested in them, but I simply do not have the time to learn how to make my own and would appreciate any and all help. Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peacechicken:
Got a little delete happy with Titanium Backup...

I deleted Google Contacts Sync Adapter and now none of my contact syncing apps work (Owncloud, CardDAV, Fruux). And of course I didn't back it up before deleting it. Does anybody have the .apk, or know how to make contacts work without it?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peacechicken:
Did you install BusyBox? What version of Framaroot did you use?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
No. I used v1.60 and it worked perfectly.

Happy Thanksgiving!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] peacechicken:
Interesting, so one less step to worry about. Oh and the "choose 'Grant' for Default access in the SuperSU app settings" is super important, thanks for mentioning that.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Um, looks like software update 2.300sp is out. Anyone (rooted) update yet?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
I tried updating this morning. I am rooted, and have several Sprint bloatware apps removed.

It made it 52% and then error'd out:

Error 8507:

Upgrade could not be completed. Please contact your service provider.

Then my phone rebooted. I expected it to be flashing "Kyocera" forever but it did boot up normally.

When I have some time, I'm going to try again, first copying the apps I removed back to /system/apps. If that doesn't work, I'll unroot.

If anyone else has any experience with this update, PLEASE post here, HERE, or PM me.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meballard:
I am rooted, but didn't remove any apps (only disabled a couple).

I did the update, and it ran fine for me, and root is still intact.

Note that the newer Sprint Default Configuration 3.0 is a LOT more aggressive and actually starts the install on its' own (which requiring explicit permission). The apps it added were easy enough to remove, but it overwrote my home screen (a warning for others).

Other than that, as long as it doesn't come back, I haven't had any issues with the update so far.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
wonder if we'll ever see 4.4 for this device
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
I doubt it. We may see 4.2.2 when they decide to enabled DC over LTE.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
I disabled my AdBlock software, removed Chrome Beta, and copied the stock apps I had removed back to /system/apps. I did NOT unroot, and the update went through this time.

Here's what I had/have removed:

-Books.apk

-ChromeBookmarksSyncAdapter.apk

-ChromeWithBrowser.apk

-Connection_Optimizer.apk

-GenieWidget.apk

-Magazines.apk

-MobileID.apk

-MobileLight.apk

-MobileSync_Kyocera_Torque.apk

-Music2.apk

-PlusOne.apk

-Shopper.apk

-SprintZone.apk

-Swipe_Platform.apk

-Videos.apk

That Sprint Default Configuration 3.0 really pissed me off. It installed all this bloatware I had to remove, PLUS it reset my homescreen grrr:

1Weather, BaconReader, CBS Sports, Lookout Security, Scout, Sprint - Discover Apps, Sprint Music Plus, Sprint TV & Movies
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetabolicBugg:
How to get update to piss off

Hey yeah, do you guys know how I could get this update to just stop trying to update? My last phone with ROOT became bricked after an update, and I don't feel I need an update cause it works fine now and it works lol. But fur serus, if we just had a custom ROM I wouldn't need to ask this question. I would also like confirmation if I can't get it to **** off then is it for sure safe, or hit or miss. Whatsup?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GTDarthYoda:
Can sombody on 2.002 give me a system dump?

Or at least a dump of the system\apps folder?

My fathers phone updated and the moron moved system apps to the sd card... well his phone updated a few days ago and now the apps are missing completely...

So if anyone can help it would greatly appreciated
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MetabolicBugg:
Software Version?

My software/Baseband version is 2.002SP so if that's what you need I have what you need, but I don't know how to do a system dump. But if nobody else has what you need I'd be willing to learn how to do one. My Torque is rooted, but again I don't know if that's relevant. Ummmmmmmm I also fixed it telling me about the update. I just restarted it. it might come back, but I'm hoping the prompt won't be back for a sufficient amount of time.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GTDarthYoda:
Just a copy of /system/apps folder should be good for now

His keyboard is gone

Along with a few other things....

had to adb install one on the phone.

First time I've had to install an app that way >.<
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
n00b here when it comes to rooting phones

I had an EVO 4G that worked quite well stock until it started getting buggy.

It was then swapped for a Kyocera Torque (big mistake)

I've had it a while, and have grown tired of dealing with it. I'm at the point now where I'm either going to root it, or turn it into many tiny pieces and buy a Moto X

I know this phone isn't a powerhouse, and I don't think I'm asking much of it.

I tried yesterday to root it via this method unable to post link, sorry

Installed Titanium, SuperSU and Framaroot, but when I try to run Framaroot and choose Gandalf the message I get is;

Failed try another exploit if available.

I simply want to disable the Google BS that I don't use. Google Books, Music, Chrome and a couple others.

I disable them, uninstall the updates to free up space and a day or two later they update again.

Then my Apps Yahoo Mail, Waze and QR code reader have enough room to update.

'I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong, just looking for help.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Framaroot v.1.6.0 is what I used and had no issues. What version did you try?

You want to be stock or as close to it before rooting, which means you should do a factory reset before rooting as to minimize problems.

Others have had issues because their device was out of free space.

Follow my post below:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
This worked perfectly for my wife's torque. She is on the latest Sprint OTA as well and I didn't do a factory reset. Thanks a lot!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
1.4.1 was the version that I found.

Guessing that is not up to date so I should uninstall and find a newer version.

I read thru this thread, and see that many folks like this phone. I really hate mine.

Aside from being water/dust proof, I think it is a turd compared to my EVO 4G.

It is slow, balky, sometimes the keyboard goes away and it takes a restart to bring it back.

Only good things performance wise are the battery life and a great speakerphone.

I operate heavy equipment, so being able to actually use the phone in noisy surroundings is great.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
lmao you sound like me talking to my wife about her torque. I have the note 3 so looking at her little phone sorta hurts my eyes but she's gonna love this free WiFi tether!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
After the EVO in an Otterbox it has been nice having a phone that fits in my pocket.

And a battery that has a longer lifespan than a goldfish from the county fair.

Having trouble finding a "clean" version of Framaroot v 1.6.1 I found a few to download, but they all come with baggage attached.

As in programs who want to "clean" my phone. :rolleyes:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
You need version v 1.6.0 Baggage attached?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
vzynagi was

I'm finding them on my computer, when I find them on my phone I am getting pop ups telling me to "DOWNLOAD THIS NOW, YOU MAY ALREADY BE INFECTED!"

Don't people have anything better to do?

Only version I'm finding that allows me to download a clean Framaroot is giving me 1.4.1 :(
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2130276
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
Hey buddy I have a question. I'm trying to disable the boot sound. I found the location of this sound in /system/media and im using root explorer and its telling me the system is read-only and I'm not seeing anywhere to make it R/W. Usually as long as you have root you should be able to rename this file and it will go away. Any idea why I can't make her phone R/W?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
Thanks, I'll give this a try in the morning.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Did you go into SuperSU, go into settings, and choose Grant for default access?

I don't use root explorer any more. I use ES File Explorer. It's free and much more comprehensive.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
Yeah I have already backed up all her apps including stock bloat apps then uninstalled a lot of stock apps with titanium backup. I also got WiFi tether to work flawlessly it just seems like for whatever reason it didn't automatically grant root explorer SU permissions. I'll give ES file explorer a whirl. Thanks!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WVhillbilly:
Success!

I think.

1.6.0 rooted it. Not getting access to anything else tho.

SuperSu and Titainium backup installed.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
ES file explorer also says Failed when I try to rename those files. Could someone else try to rename those bootanimation files in /system/media and see if it says failed?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UPdownLoAD:
Go into ES Explorer. Click menu, then click the WORD "Root Explorer". A new menu will pop up. Click "Mount R/W" and choose what you need access to. This is assuming you have gone into SuperSU and have changed access to Grant, otherwise it's not going to work.

I don't mind helping but I *really* recommend you be extremely careful with what you are doing. It would appear you haven't had much experience with rooting, and it does void your warranty. There are NO known restoration options if you screw up on this phone.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigMosley:
It worked perfectly like I suspected. All I did was renamed the Bootsound.zip to BootsoundDISABLED.zip and now when she boots her phone the animation still comes up but that annoying and loud stock Sprint sound doesn't come on. Actually I've rooted every single phone I've ever had HTC Evo, HTC Evo LTE, Samsung s3, Samsung Note 3 & now my wife's Kyocera Torque. I assumed this would void her warranty like any other phone but to tell you the truth if something happened to this phone it wouldn't be a big deal haha :p
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
this might not be very useful info, but figured i'd post it anyway. i think the torque has a Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Plus MSM8960 cpu. i did a quick search and found this topic here with info about architecture and bootloaders etc http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1856327
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Hey I have been looking for these. At xmas I bought two of these off of ebay for about $95. Flashed to cricket and since cricket does not have DC i removed those apks (bad things happened). Like a fool I forgot to back up either phone before I did this. Will go into the key settings and remove the DC button there this time. LOL!

EDIT: These are odexed files. The phone I have is 2.002 and files are deodexed. Anyone have those system files?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
actually i think i had gotten those files from 2.002, but that was my first and only time trying to pull such files off a phone. I sent them to about 7 other people asking each one to report back if they did or did not work.. not a single one ever said yes or no :(

i'd try getting them for you again but i updated my phone to 2.300sp
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fendergrab:
Sorry! I don't think that was 2.002, those system files caused a whole mess off force closes on mine.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
2.002

i pulled all the apps using adb and will upload them to dropbox later for those that need them. 2.002sp
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
You did a full system pull or just /system/app ? Either way thanks!

Edit: also are the apps deodexed? For example do any have the .odex extension?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toberly:
none of them show .odex, so I'm pretty sure they are deodexed. just pulled /system/app, could find a guide to do full system pull. if you know what the command is i can try it. I'm uploading the apps to dropbox now, I'll put up a link when its done

Edit: since I don't have enough posts yet, I cannot post the link. PM me for it. I put a archived file called AAllsystemapps which contains all the apps or you can download whichever ones you want individually on there.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] x000x:
anyone able to get cwm or twrp on the phone using this? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2334554

from what i read our devices are only supported via "self downloaded recoveries" whatever that means.... not sure where to go from there.

ps. i was stuck for a bit getting it to work, what i discovered is under superSU you have to change the default access to 'grant' first. Otherwise it would just display a white screen.

there are some (but not all) .odex files from this one http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43521612&postcount=93 but since it is a few month old, i think it is from a 1.xx version
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlmancuso:
Well you can't use a custom recovery (twrp, cwm) until one is made for this device.

Another user hooked me up with the files I needed.