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[Nexus 7 Android Development] Zorigo:
Sorry if the question is irritating, but may I ask what battery life is like on this ROM (one of the latest builds preferably)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] acidspider:
Really good.

Lastest m-kernel a63 now works with this Rom. :) WINNER
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Is there any nightly's or just the broken download page at pac-rom.com
[Nexus 7 Android Development] milkk:
It's broken for all the devices so not just n7. I also checked the TF700 and it's same and a few others random ones I checked.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] milkk:
Anyone try the new build from today yet?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] iurnait:
All looks good from here
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Works great but had to delete the phone. Apk to use mkernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Dany16v:
So we have to delete phone.apk in system/app and we can use custom kernel like mkernel?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 con Tapatalk 4
[Nexus 7 Android Development] acidspider:
Yeah. I ran into same problems this morning till I read this. Deleting phone.all from system/app works and now booted with m kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] redeyedjedi:
way back when on the gtab, we debated this for a while, the idea of the phone apk being on a tablet. the conclusion we came to was that on a full proper build, the phone and of voice dialer apks are there after a build, but if you don't have a modem, you will never need them. If you have really bad OCD, then you may have some issues with the logcat...... but you will lose ZERO functionality by deleteing these two apks on a grouper...... NOT tilapia. I think these apks should be deleted anyways, along with sound record and video editor. my two cents.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] milkk:
ohhh damn I didn't think of that and went back to the old build when the phone error thing kept coming up. I will do that today.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] GragonV:
What kernel are you using my bros

Non of these work on my N7

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2373410

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2168787

weird, since I remember the oxydo worked well with the previous version of PAC. I just need a kernel that have the s2s and double tab to wake function. Tried oxydo 11,12 , m-kernel 62... by wipe/reset, flash the rom+gapps, reboot, flash the kernel (wipe/no wipe the davilk cache... ) and ... STUCK with the bootscreen (some kernel in the google logo screen, some stuck after the boooting animation) :(

Those two kernels work just fine with PANARDOID 3.99 (hwv this rom got some problems with the candy crush and others games so I switched back to PAC and... stuck with the kernels :( )
[Nexus 7 Android Development] milkk:
You have to user m-kernel 63 that's the one with the udpate for PAC Rom etc.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Here OxyDo packed with the PAC ramdisk which works too

Here https://copy.com/GVVt4 thank rhg135 for it :D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] milkk:
Ok finally did it and good to go now with phone.apk deleted thanks for the info.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bamonkey:
latest nightly 10/28 - Can anyone confirm hybrid is not working? i appear to be stuck in tablet mode no matter what settings i use.

Quick edit: came from full wipe..yadda yadda alll that normal stuff here
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Working for me and I'm using Mkernel a63
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bamonkey:
weird.. had to flash 10/18 and setup normal first then flash 10/28 over the top..back to my preferences so i wont be touching the hybrid settings again LOL
[Nexus 7 Android Development] oneheart1975:
How did you delete the phone.apk? I tried to delete it under sys/app but unsuccessful and days the file is read only.

Edit: Sorry wasn't able to see the instruction about deleting from the ROM file rather than after installation.

It's okay now.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Lupin The Third:
Just for future use... With total commander and root functions everywhere enabled in settings, you can mount every folder, including system folders, to rw and delete, rename, replace freely.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Dany16v:
With CM file manager, just let him root access (in preferences) and you can edit what you want
[Nexus 7 Android Development] xx_bishop_xx:
On the most recent nightly. I noticed each time I am navigating back in settings (notably in the PAC settings/home screen/grid size), I am getting an error that reads, "Unfortunately, Trebuchet has stopped working. Blame Tyler". Any thoughts? I have blamed Tyler ... to no avail.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Erovia:
That's because tbe launcher is restarted with the new settings. (even if you don't change anything)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] xx_bishop_xx:
Understood. Thank you. I imagine this means that it's "normal" rather than a traditional "error".
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Erovia:
I've flashed the latest nightly (10.31.) and the built-in superuser is kinda broken. The CM file explorer works but TricksterMod and TerminalEmulator (haven't tested any other app) can't get root access. I tried to play with the settings, allow root to every app, etc, but no luck. In the log it shows it denied access to apps but no prompt is shown.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] tondre:
Install supersu from the Play store, then update binaries using that app. Make sure to select to do it from recovery. Then your all set and good to go
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
No issues here. Did a factory reset though. Really smooth in this build! Thanks guys
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pyroguysf:
Just flashed and all I have to say is holy #!%$ turn down the animations guys- can't even turn them all off. There's so much movement I'd be more comfortable running through a live battlefield.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] iurnait:
This can easily be disabled from developer options under settings.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pyroguysf:
Turning all animations off just makes it janky; I'm talking about from the PAC options.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] iurnait:
I believe that there are "Animation Controls" under PAC settings
[Nexus 7 Android Development] pyroguysf:
There are, which brings me back to my initial point- they don't control all of the crazy animations, only some of them. I don't know what things are called so I can't really specify what. Also, I felt like I was going to have a seizure so I had to flash something else.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] shaynethepain:
Hi,

Just installed this. Great Rom. Is there anyway to resize the Navbar on this rom. I couldnt find it anywhere in the navbar settings. Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Pac man settings/Hybrid settings /interface and set navbar to whatever size you like
[Nexus 7 Android Development] shaynethepain:
Great Thanks!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
So far I have not been able to run any of the nightlies. Currently I'm running pac_grouper-4.3.0-20130820-140541 with no problems. Anytime I flash any of the newer nightlies I usually get a bootloop, but sometimes it'll load, let me go through the gapps setup, then go into a bootloop. I get the same results with a clean or dirty flash. Any help would be appreciated.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
What recovery and bootloader do you have installed?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
Bootloader is 4.23 and recovery is TWRP ver 2.6.3.0. Thanks for the response.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Well it looks like your up to date and all the nightlies are working for me.

The latest is running great with the built in Faux kernel.. are you using custom kernels, multirom or anything?

When you say clean flash what is your procedure?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
No custom kernels, multirom or anything like that. I just flash the rom and reboot. I boot into twrp do a factory reset, flash the rom then reboot. I've also flashed gapps immediately after flashing the rom, but still I get bootloops. I've also removed phone.apk prior to flashing like it says in other posts, but still no-go. Stable works flawlessly, but I've always had problems with the pacman nightlies. I've even flashed the stable build then flashed a nightly on top of that, but I only get the same result. Very rare occasions it will load but then lock up at the lockscreen and go into a bootloop again constantly showing the bootanimation. I've done this on and off a charge, as well as plugged in and not plugged in via usb. I guess my next step would be to do a complete wipe, then flash a nightly. I've never had this kind of problem flashing roms on this device or any other.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Well what gapps are you using with it? If that's not it then ya sounds like a full return to stock is in order...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
I've tried it with the gapps that comes with the rom as well as the one posted in the op. I'm going to do a full wipe when I get the chance. So much data to backup.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Are you flashing the right file for your device?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
That question had me second guessing myself as I would have been very embarrassed if I wasn't downloading the correct rom. I double checked and yes, I am using the correct rom. I will download the latest nightly tonight and try that after I've completely restored the nexus to its factory image.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Just checking. Ive seen people do it haha. Ive had bootloops with some nightly's but only a few
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
I believe I've got it working now. I didn't have to do a full factory image restore, but I did go into the Advanced Wipe options for TWRP and selected all options except internal data and OTG. Once that was done, I flashed the latest nightly and booted without problems.

The main difference I've found is that I was not presented with the "Setup Your Tablet" screen once the rom loaded. This leads me to believe that even though I chose the factory wipe, as well as wipe dalvik and cache in TWRP, it did not clear out everything. It may not make sense, but at least it's running. I should have known something was weird when I did a clean flash of a nightly, but somehow gapps was present like it had been baked into the rom.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Ya I always manually wipe the system on a clean install, that's what a clean flash is imo. A factory reset does not wipe the system partition so you had leftover data messing with you.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
Well I learned something new. I appreciate that.

Unfortunately I've spoken too soon. I flashed gapps (gapps-jb-20130813-signed.zip) and now it's in the bootloop with the pacman animation going over and over. Plus when I tried the gapps link in op, goo is saying that file can't be found. Is there a new gapps?

Edit -- I did a search on goo and found it. But my md5 checksum matches what's on the server.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Those are the wrong gapps, if you want the full gapps use the newest PA 4.3.1 gapps. I use the minimal banks gapps myself.

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Here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
Had trouble with the Nov 6 build. Fc phone and nfc. Reverted back to 11/5 . Anyone have problems with last night's build?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cryingmoose:
issues with 11/6 also(crashing processes message spam) . 11/5 is fine
[Nexus 7 Android Development] billysimon99:
3G Signal Problems

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but there isnt a PAC thread in the 3G section so... yeah. Is anyone else having 3G stability problems with the 11/5 nightly? I keep getting dropped signals and i have to reboot to get it to work again. im running PAC with M-Kernel btw.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
For those curious/ the November 7th build also force closes with the process Android phone message. Going back to November 5th again. are we supposed to freeze phone.apk before flashing a new build?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
I've removed phone.apk from the 11/06 build and had the same spam of errors.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Are you guys using custom kernels? I'm still on the 5th nightly with the built in Faux Kernel
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
No custom kernel. Just flashed and was immediately prompted with the errors.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Quetzalcoatl:
Same here
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
Same phone apk fc error on 11/8 build, faux default kernel... Again back to 11/5 .... wish they'd fix this
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
11-5 is running great on OxyDo #13
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
Just to be sure, this thread is for the builds hosted at pac-rom.com, right? I'm just asking because with the Optimus G thread, a developer is building their own pac-roms which are different than what's hosted at pac-rom.com.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bkss:
Yeah same here. Was looking to test this rom for the first time. Guess I'll try the 11/5 nightly.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
Build 11/9 no fc errors today, yay!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] bamonkey:
Did you have to remove phone.apk or is this not an issue anymore?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
Did you get the ROM from the pac-man site?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
I always go here, same as in OP, did not remove phone.apk, as I am leaving the default faux kernel. There was no issue with phone.apk

http://www.pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/grouper/nightly/
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Wouldn't flash for me. Mabie a bad download?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mihovil13:
Is there any stable release with 4.3 or HALO?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
No but the 11-5 nightly has been stable for me with OxyDo #13. With the built in Faux kernel it would get sluggish at times.

I think this rom should be built with OxyDo.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Deeco7:
Most preferred rom by far? Don't want to start a war or anything, but looking to increase performance for my family's tablet and ram is quite tight.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] mihovil13:
PAC is a ROM full of most features available for Android out there.

So, when it reaches stable phase, accompanied with a good kernel, this will definitely be the best combination for your device.

Until it reaches that phase, I'm staying with Purity and m-kernel here.

Good job devs, so far.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] singh_dd93:
Sorry Guys for the broken support over the past days. Actually my health has not been good. I am recovering now and will getback soon.

Thanks for cooperating
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cliniclyinsane:
Glad to hear your health is getting better
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
Build from 12th flashed fine, no errors I've encountered. Only running so far 15 minutes but no problems
[Nexus 7 Android Development] MasterScat:
Thanks a lot for your help. I'm now running the 11/10 build on OxyDo#13 with no problems at all. I also found time to setup multiboot so now I can test later builds.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] neo1691:
I downloaded the realease version of this rom and flashed it, and in settings it says that Android version is 4.2.2, isn't it is supposed to be android 2.3 jellybean? Or is it only available in the nightly versions? (now nightly says android 4.4 though)
[Nexus 7 Android Development] neo1691:
Well I saw the changlog in the first post. and yes its not 4.4 its 4.3.1. Thanks for clearing that.

Quoting OP

I want to be as stable as possible with possibly the most recent android version install. Can you tell me which nightly I should get to have this?

This ROM is very good though. I just want to know if you guys are on 4.2.2 (because its good or something)

Also I have some noob questions about the rom features.

1) I am using the stock UI. Can I add my own setting buttons in the settings notification dropdown bar? I want to add a button to toggle rotation, cant seem to find it in the settings.

2) I saw in the videos that I can also change the DPI of certain apps too, can't find that setting either. (FIGURED IT OUT)

3) If I want to install some themes for this rom, should I search for AOKP themes, CM themes or PA themes?

4) Can't seem to see the halo feature of PA? How to enable it?

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] neo1691:
I installed the stable version of this rom based on 4.2.2 and it was missing the halo feature. Is the nightly version having that feature?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Erovia:
The latest nightlies all have Halo.

I don't know if you've figured out the answers for your questions, but it can't hurt if I answer them:

1) To add/remove tiles go to PAC-man settings/Toggles/Tiles and layout (You can also add stuff to your Notification drawer in the PAC/Notification drawer settings)

3) I'm not sure about AOKP and PA themes, but CM themes are working fine.

4) To enable Halo, go to PAC/HALO
[Nexus 7 Android Development] neo1691:
Thanks a lot for answering me.

I flashed the release version and I didn't halo in settings. I'll flash the nightly. Thanks a lot
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dayanandgp:
Nightly for tilapia

Is there a tilapia version too ? If i browse through the database i can see few nightlies for tilapia...Loved the design of the ROM very much and want to flash it using MultiRom tool. thanks in advance for the info...
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Erovia:
Talipia nightlies: http://pacman.basketbuild.com/index.php?dir=main/tilapia/nightly/
[Nexus 7 Android Development] dayanandgp:
thanks !

Thank you !! I installed the ROM via MultiRom and now have Stock 4.3 and latest nightlies. I must say i am very very happy looking at the tunability

with respect to mods etc. I always wanted to try this and now i can try it safely using MultiRom :angel:

I sometime get "Blame Tyler " messages in settings and looking at other posts i guess this is normal if its not force closing anything (correct me if I am wrong). Looking forward to spend some time tinkering with all the settings.

Does anybody know what happens if i do a factory reset for this ROM via MulitRom menus ? Does it also factory reset / wipe data for my default Stock ROM ? Slightly off topic but help would be appreciated as I see in the OP , we are supposed to do a factory reset after flashing PAC man ROM for first time.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Flashing as a secondary rom is the same as a "clean" flash so no factory wipe needed..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] jyesucevitz:
Well I haven't been using this rom for a while, but nonetheless I wish you

A speedy and full recovery my friend.

Sent from very PAranoid Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 Android Development] acidspider:
Are the nightlies updated to 4.4 yet?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] neo1691:
Don't think so unless the op must have updated us.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] singh_dd93:
No there aren't any yet
[Nexus 7 Android Development] aromig:
New nightly is up!
[Nexus 7 Android Development] RobZarzecki:
Thank you. Are there any changes for our device?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] xx_bishop_xx:
I seem to have pretty rough battery life with this ROM; if I leave it not charging over night after a full charge and not using it, next day battery is between 50-60%. At least I think this could be considered low-ish battery life considering it's draining without use. Any thoughts or suggestions? M-Kernal installed. Thank you.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Dany16v:
I can confirm that battery drain when in sleep is huge, tonight in 7h it losts ~43%. No wakelock applications
[Nexus 7 Android Development] aromig:
FYI, the below is from the d2vzw thread. Posted by Papa Smurf151, a PAC team member/moderator:

"FYI pac-4.4 branch has been merged into pac github and gerrit. No alpha or nightlies yet but very soon. Feel free to poke around and if daring enough build for yourself. For those who wish to wait...please no eta as we are working as fast as we can. This is a full aosp base with commits brought I'm from all over with our own stuff added as well. Not all featured are added yet but will be over the next few weeks

XDA Moderator"

Sent from my GS3 running Pac-Man ROM 4.3 nightlies
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Genius1238:
Is there a way to enable transparent statusbar and navbar?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] homasholz:
kitkat?

are the latest nightlies already 4.4 kitkat or still jellybean??

thx for reply
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Dany16v:
4.3.1
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cryingmoose:
Yup. It's hidden away in the Paranoidandroid settings. Have to go into app colour options, find your launcher, change the colour transparency
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Loc2262:
Is there a way to turn off the "double tap to wake" feature?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
This explains how http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48376751
[Nexus 7 Android Development] koman90:
Any status on 4.4 development for Nexus 7 grouper?

Also, anyone having issues flashing night lies with TWRP 2.6.3.1?
[Nexus 7 Android Development] alvalosa:
Me! I need to flash using a temporary TWRP 2.5.0.0 using Nexus Root Toolkit.

If I don't do it this way the nightly will give an error.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] renes2:
Me too:D
[Nexus 7 Android Development] koman90:
Thanks, Flashed back to 2.5.0.0 using ROM toolbox and now i'm able to flash the updates.

The workaround makes sense because i ran into the same issue when trying to flash PAC initially, I ended up flashing CWM.

Thanks again.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] LuckySwitz:
I can't open the page..
[Nexus 7 Android Development] koman90:
You're missing a slash ...grouper/release

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OK I have another question,

Has anyone gotten touch control successfully setup on this ROM on the nexus 7?

If so what combo of kernel and module did you use, because none of them seem to be working for me. I continue to get "failed to load kernel module error: null"

Thanks
[Nexus 7 Android Development] thanhminh135:
Hybrid Properties not work on lastest version
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cryingmoose:
4.4 alpha showing on goo manager
[Nexus 7 Android Development] aromig:
Hmm, not finding it.

Sent from my GS3 running Pac-Man ROM 4.3 nightlies
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cryingmoose:
Edit - removed
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Erovia:
Flashed the 4.4 rom. Tons of force closed. Blamed Tyler. Deleted rom.

Too bad. I'd really liked to upgrade to KK, but I'm too used to Halo and Pie.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] p70shooter:
Guess that's why it's an alpha and no announcement. Sure it won't be long before it's stable.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] aromig:
Looks like someone else's build, not official PAC. No surprise it's buggy. I doubt they would want them to have that up on Goo.

Sent from my GS3 running Pac-Man ROM 4.3 nightlies
[Nexus 7 Android Development] koman90:
At the end of the build script it says, "FOR PRIVATE USE ONLY, DO NOT DISTRIBUTE, ANY PUBLICLY DISTRIBUTED BUILDS WILL BE REMOVED". But that doesn't stop them.

Anyway the PAC team will quickly contact any filehosts if they discover unofficial builds, so the best thing to do is build it yourself if you're interested.

I setup a build environment with the help of Google, and set a chron job to run the build nightly at midnight and within a week I had my first build.

Right now PAC 4.4 looks like nothing more than CM 11. I think this is because PA and AOKP are still working on making their modules 4.4 compatible.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] iurnait:
lol sh*t my bad. I was testing out a few commits and uploaded it to the wrong folder on goo. [MENTION=4238722]Cryingmoose[/MENTION], could you please remove that link? It should no longer work.
[Nexus 7 Android Development] Cryingmoose:
Ok, removed.

Yeah goo manager notified me of an update whenever I rebooted
[Nexus 7 Android Development] koman90:
Seee....