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[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Well what if ive always had the eip program and never had to get discounts? I haven't changed my rate plan s at all . this sucks man. They even told me that if I still wanted to pay in full I'd still have to pay the early upgrade. How does that make sense? I believe I'm on a value plan. Not the simple choice. The one that came after the even more plus. Always have done eip since then and have had no issues. I've even upgraded more than twice in one year and never been told about that charge. I'm def. Going to the store tomorrow. That's crap.
[Nexus 4 General] qpqpqp:
You guys found anyway around their UN-carrier plan? I've done the calculation and its basically overpriced idea to get you to pay for the unlimited talk, which most of us don't need.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] nd4spdbh:
Family plan.... 2 lines, classic unlimited talk n text + 2gb of highspeed data on my line (2.5gb total as each line gets 500mb default) 100+20 a month -15% for employee discount from where i work (not tmobile) ends up being 110 a month or so all said n done.

Got my nexus 4 16gb about 3 weeks ago from wirefly.com for $149.99 on my upgrade.

And attached are speeds i regularly get at my house YES you read that right 19 down 3.6 up... NO that is not on wifi... and NO its not on LTE.... just HSDPA+ ... no modifiactions to the radio... latest cm10.1 nightly with franco kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] spudkinks:
That sucks...I've had both great and miserable expertise with T-Mobiles phone staff...could try again, see if you get someone that can at least explain what is going on...if you're deaf, I'm sure that makes the whole ordeal that much more frustrating. I've yet to experience decent service/knowledge from the staff at any T-Mobile store. Good luck to you

THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE! THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Loll I meant definitely not deaf. :)
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
Went to the store. Got everything cleared up. There is no such thing as early upgrade charge for value plans. As you can see. Got my nexus. And got wifey a note 2
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
What's the difference between a micro Sim and a normal sim that's cut?
[Nexus 4 General] Jeeeenx:
Decided to see if Tmo is lighting up towers with LTE in my area and was pleasantly surprised. Most if not all Brooklyn, NY towers now have LTE. I ran multiple speed tests going through parts of Brooklyn and Queens and got around 22Mbit down and 9Mbit up.

If you're a T-mobile N4 user and would like to tests these speeds yourself don't forget to switch to .33 radio and use fast.t-mobile.com for APN.

Good luck. Have fun.
[Nexus 4 General] THEindian:
Well the micro sim is smaller but it also has slightly smaller contact points
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
Question about using the new uncarrier plans.

I see the seventy dollars unlimited everything plans, am I able to just add lines to that for ten and no other up charge for data on that plan?
[Nexus 4 General] admiez:
I haven't visited the website to look at this but this must refer to the payment plan to pay down the cost of a device over X amount of months, and nothing to do with your prepaid/postpaid service plan selection.
[Nexus 4 General] jphantomx:
Yep, Got it now thanks! :good:

For anyone ordering SIM kits from T-Mobile and gets invalid tracking number; it is because T-Mobile gives the shipment to UPS and then UPS gives it to USPS. Basically add "92" at the beginning of your tracking number at UPS.com and it will show up!
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
Man that sucks. All my experience with T-Mobile has been amazing. Even at the stores and Kiosks. My line is only 20$ with 1000 minutes(I don't need them though I only use about 50min), unlimited text, and unlimited data w/ 4.5gb high-speed data cap.
[Nexus 4 General] jphantomx:
$20 only? wow! could you explain how did you get that? cheapest one I found was $30 100mins plan! thanks
[Nexus 4 General] MidtownHD:
Its very likely he/she is in a family plan with discounts
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
Correct! Although one of the lines is unused but we can't get rid of it because it's still under contract. My line is still pretty much a steal. But I think I would pretty much be on the $30 prepaid if opted out of my families plan.
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
Don't know if it's been posted but the mlb app is free for 1year for all t mobile customers. Just download and sign up by the 30th
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Mlb?
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
Sorry major league baseball
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Oh, haha I thought it was something else entirely.
[Nexus 4 General] air2k57:
Lately, T-Mobile is great. Before... terrible. Every time I called in lately they've been helpful and understanding. Didn't hassle me for anything, issued proper credits, etc.

My only problem with them now is the way departments talk, or don't. I sent HTC One back to them and they are taking forever acknowledging that it is is even in their possession
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
I have to agree T Mobile's gotten a lot better with her customer service.
[Nexus 4 General] WiseManWhite:
Been Happening to me too for the last couple of weeks. I'll have H+ but the download time for an app will say something crazy like 28 minutes.
[Nexus 4 General] akack:
Tethering ??

Just ordered my Nexus 4 and will be using it on the $ 70 unlimited postpaid, no contract simple choice plan which includes 500 MB hotspot at high data speeds then gets throttled to Edge speeds.

Will I still be able to tether from the Nexus 4 at high data speeds after I use the initial 500 MB bc the phone is stock Android??

I'm not replacing my home internet with this tether but when I'm out and about I will defn use more than the allotted 500 MB tether.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] TJBunch1228:
It will be blocked by tmo regardless of stock Android. You'll have to either use Hotspot Shield VPN, a different user agent string, or a non blocked browser such as Opera.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
This is true...Opera works flawless
[Nexus 4 General] akack:
So just download Opera browser to my macbook and iPad, then I should be good to tether beyond the allotted 500 MB?
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
So does chrome. I wonder if one were to replace their home internet with this, would tmo pay more attention to the resulting higher usage?
[Nexus 4 General] SpookyTunes:
Installed and removed the same day.

It only lets you watch the "Game of the day", not all of them. You have to pay for more.

It blacks out the game if it's within 50 miles of your current GPS location (No Yankee stadium, or Citi field games for me).

The widget only supports one team. All the same features were already free on a desktop browser.

I use the TWC TV app with WiFi to watch YES and SNY. TWC recently added hundreds of WiFi hotspots in Queens and Brooklyn.

I even get TWC WiFi lying in the sand between Beach 126 St. and Beach 127 St. in Belle Harbor (Rockaway Park Beach).

Happiness is: Cold beer, hot food, a sandy beach, lit up with WiFi, while watching baseball :D
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
It does give you free audio for all games afaik.
[Nexus 4 General] fone_fanatic:
Does anyone here use the sensorly app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sensorly.viewer

It's like a user reported coverage map. I've been using it for the past month and it looks like I'm 1 of 2 reporting T-Mobile LTE coverage in my city.

Also I find the speed test in this app to be more reliable then the popular speedtest.net app.

Just a heads up, the app defaults to reporting while not active (ie backgrounded) so if you're worried about battery life change that ASAP. It's on the first page, tap contribution and change it from passive to either active or no contribution.
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
Yeah, at least. It was so hard finding a game on tune in without the hassles you can listen to any game instantly.
[Nexus 4 General] Iczer:
Just wanted to give anyone a heads up that has bought their phone recently. T-Mobile just changed their pricing for the white nexus to $0 down and it comes with a free wireless charger. I called support and they were very helpful and are sending me a new phone with the charger. I just had to pay tax and I'll ship my old phone back after getting the new one and will get refunded the payment and tax as well.

Now I just need to unroot and then will have to get my new phone back to my build I'm at...which I'm really happy with lol.
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
I just bought one from Swappa that I should have in a few days. Also bought the sim card today too. See ya Sprint!
[Nexus 4 General] js365:
Looks like a interesting app. Gonna try it. Thanks for sharing. :)
[Nexus 4 General] fone_fanatic:
It is pretty cool, with T-Mobiles recent LTE deployment I'm spreading the word hopefully we'll get more info on their coverage.

Just remember to adjust the settings so it doesn't kill your battery.
[Nexus 4 General] geomatiq:
does any one know if i could tether stealth mode with out tmobile finding out, while im on cm10?
[Nexus 4 General] namurt:
don't ask people how to violate your TOS. people who do that are TOS's -T +P.

on topic:

i just activated my new n4 on solavei, and i have to admit, i'm digging tmobile service here in southeastern pennsylvania. i was just a tad bit worried about leaving verizon lte, but i'm consistently hitting about 15 down and 1-2 up from inside my house. speeds pick up when i get outside and out from under all the brick and mortar. the downstream speeds are on par with what i had with verizon. upstream is quite a bit slower, but who really needs much upstream bandwidth on a mobile device anyway? i haven't downgraded my radio yet to see if i can grab lte, but i wouldn't be surprised if i was able to pick it up since i'm pretty close to philly.
[Nexus 4 General] neuroval:
T-Mobile's new plans include tethering with the free 500 MB and once you run out drop you to edge speeds whether on your phone or your tethered computer.
[Nexus 4 General] namurt:
correct, but i'm assuming he wants to do unlimited tethering since he mentioned hiding it from t-mo. users who abuse the system grind my gears. it just hurts innocent users.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
How does it?
[Nexus 4 General] namurt:
in reality, it doesn't. you know and i know it. in the minds of the carriers, however, it does, and so the greedy bastards impose more and more limits and caps and bs legalese in their TOS. they use these less than 1% power users as a means of justifying their business practices. i don't like to see people give carriers more ammunition, that's all.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Agreed. I just don't see any difference between data usage on a phone vs a pc. I've checked my plan and have 9765gb (unlimited plan) on it. Will I ever hit it on either? Lol checked my home internet usage, and we're hitting around 40-50gb on average each month.
[Nexus 4 General] GuyIncognito721:
Was that same deal available in black too, or only white?

EDIT

Called and deal is for black too, but was told it's $20 down, so not sure how you got them to sweeten the deal.
[Nexus 4 General] Iczer:
I'm not sure if it was both colors, but I have a black N4 and they're sending me a white one with the charger. They'll refund me the $20 plus tax I spent originally for the black one once i ship it back

I originally talked to sales who then told me I'd have to send my phone in and get a refund then order the new deal. So I talked to the refund department or whatever they're called and they sent me to sales support who then actually helped me out
[Nexus 4 General] Jayrod1980:
I would agree regarding tethering if it were for only occasional use, but those people using it as a home replacement and streaming, torrenting etc really are hurting other users. You might have unlimited data per say but the network only has so much spectrum and bandwidth. I would be pissed if I lived in the same tower area as the guy that used his mobile net exclusively for home use, because my speeds and access would constantly be affected, depending on how many other users there are.

With a phone there's only so much a normal user will be able to do versus having every device in your house sucking data from your mobile connection. If its only occasional that's fine... My cable at home is crap and I've had it or the router at home go out, or used it in a hotel room, so of course there's legit uses and reasons to tether.
[Nexus 4 General] steadly2004:
FYI, LTE is confirmed (by me today) to be working in the University area of Charlotte, NC. Haven't gotten it anywhere else though.
[Nexus 4 General] 2006yamahaR6:
LTE was turned on dallas and we are getting some SWEET speeds (20-30 down, 15-20 up)

although the reception isnt so great :(
[Nexus 4 General] PhantomGamers:
How sensitive is their tethering detection exactly?

I don't tether often but on the rare chance my internet goes out or I'm at my brother's house and his internet is particularly slow (it tends to be slower than HSPA/LTE) I like having the option... just for a few megabytes of data really, nothing huge.

Do they just cut your data off the second they see a useragent they don't recognize as mobile? I would think there are a lot of false positives from people who modify their user agents on android?

edit: I'm on the $30/month prepaid plan, if that makes a difference.
[Nexus 4 General] TJBunch1228:
I don't know about prepaid but for postpaid, the first few MB is allowed every billing cycle but tmo will send a text saying to avoid charges add hotspot. Then if you do much more they cut it off.
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
Uhh
[Nexus 4 General] steadly2004:
I must have missed the title (Nexus 4 T-Mobile Chicagoland thread) ... LOL
[Nexus 4 General] FeintDoxx:
Haha whaaa. Oops copied that in here on accident.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Any of you guys ever owned the gsII?Is so.. do you remember the mini bath thread,lol.Just read through some of the thread again....wow funny sh*t.A must read...Its titled (dropped my phone in the shower).If you read it,read a least the first 10 pages.

Getting ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] kirdroid:
Is there a way to enable T-Mobile lte on Nexus 4? Sorry if this is answered already.
[Nexus 4 General] PhantomGamers:
srsly?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2211618
[Nexus 4 General] kirdroid:
Yeah seriously...not been using the N4, mostly using one and s4 so lost touch on what's going on here. Thanks for the link.
[Nexus 4 General] PhantomGamers:
it is a stickied thread though... :/
[Nexus 4 General] plasticarmyman:
also... LMGTFY doesn't need to be applied here.....does it?....
[Nexus 4 General] kirdroid:
Right you have never asked any stupid question ever? Relax I know should have searched, no need to be a ****.
[Nexus 4 General] plasticarmyman:
just doing what i am good at doing...

:angel:
[Nexus 4 General] rodleung68:
can't use LTE even if i flash radio 33

I am stock Rom rooted faux kernel 4.2.2

i did change to fast.t-mobile (the mobile network things)

and change to LTE only *#*#4636#*#*

but still cant not use it

I checked my area it support LTE,My mom S3 is using LTE

Why?
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
Huh, the tmo gs3 doesn't have an LTE radio.

Maybe check with the sensorly app got lte coverage in your area.
[Nexus 4 General] steadly2004:
Gotta flash the LTE fix for 4.2.2 or change the file manually. I forget which thread has the link. I think its in one of the modem DL threads.
[Nexus 4 General] monkeypaws:
They released a new lte version . so yes it does now have lte
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
Damn, I should pay some attention to older devices.
[Nexus 4 General] rodleung68:
so can u find me the link? plz

i can't find it.

or I heard stock rom cant use lte tho

coz i am using stock rom!
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
Anyone know if the T-Mobile prepaid plans have lte coverage?

Can't seem to find any definitive info.
[Nexus 4 General] eservant:
yes they do. I am on the $30 a month prepaid plan and I get lte on a cutdown regular sim.
[Nexus 4 General] ploopower79:
Here is the needed LTE fix zip you're looking for, it will make the changes in your build.prop and fix the in call audio problems for T-Mobile users...

First of course use .33 radio or lower, flash in recovery, go to mobile networks and select LTE/GSM/WCDMA then go to your APN's and select the lte T-Mobile us APN and you should be good to go
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Got lte today in fairburn/union city, ga
[Nexus 4 General] Illudrium:
Anyone else out there experiencing extremely unreliable 4g service? I live in LA, so coverage is excellent. However, the latency, download, and upload speeds fluctuate dramatically so I can never maintain a consistent connection. Just to give you an idea, it will literally go from 50 ping to 800+ and my download speeds will drop from 8+ megs to 27 kb/s in a matter of seconds. Webpage freeze mid-load, streaming hangs, and uploads and downloads fail. This very frustrating and borderline unusable . I've already talked to technical support numerous times and had several support tickets opened but all I've been given is the runaround.
[Nexus 4 General] mtabreu:
Hello I live in Brazil I bought my Nexus 4 about 60 days ago and I'm disappointed, I have a problem with the data connection (3g), began three days ago and I can not solve, my phone only works with voice and WIFI , I'm considering a hard reset to see if it works, my problem is similar to this Thread ?
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
So, I flashed the. 33 radio, flashed your attached .zip, and changed my apn settings. I get 3G and H+ until I change my networks to LTE/GSM/WCDMA. At that point I only get cell service, no data connection. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Network type LTE/GSM auto (PRL), and APN fast.t-mobile.com.
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
Still no luck.

Does this look right?
[Nexus 4 General] JZ832:
I think you might need to have the dash in T-Mobile. Not sure.
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Yes you must have the dash or it will not connect
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
There we go.
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Got this west of Atlanta yesterday
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
I'll have to check my speed once I'm home. Reception at work is horrible.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
Will this work on stock

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.944 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] toanau:
On the phone dialer selection my doesn't offer gsm/lte/wcdma auto (prl). Mine only has gdm/lte/CDMA auto (prl). Does it matter?
[Nexus 4 General] kthejoker20:
Thats why i switched to att go phone pre paid.

No more reception or signal problems.

Plus, it's LTE.
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
I had weak reception/signal at work even when I was on Verizon. I'm pretty sure it's just the building.
[Nexus 4 General] PhantomGamers:
yes but contrary to what he said i dont believe it does fix the audio issues for tmobile users, you will most likely need to flash/apply a separate fix for that.

but in order to get the LTE setting to stick on reboot on stock you have to follow this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42488140#post42488140

which requires sqlite3 which the stock rom does not have, you can get that here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ptSoft.util.sqlite3forroot
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
Use gsm/lte auto you will still use hspa
[Nexus 4 General] kgptzac:
I'm a t mobile user and I'd like to pick up a N4. I noticed the price of the phone is significantly cheaper on Google's play store than on any other electronic store... and it's even unlocked. I'm just wondering if there is a catch somewhere... or I should just buy it from Google?
[Nexus 4 General] PhantomGamers:
it's the same phone wherever you buy it unless you get some fake clone version of it, i guess the only "catch" would be you have to pay shipping and depending on your state tax... but it'd probably still come out cheaper than t-mobile.

the only reason these other 'deals' exist is because some people prefer to get it subsidized so they can pay it off at $20/month or whatever the price is for the 2 years... but it doesn't pay off really.
[Nexus 4 General] Larrondo:
I hope this isn't against any rules-- I know this isn't a deal forum, but this is where and how I got my N4. Sign up at Befrugal. Once you have an account, search for Platinum Mobile and click on the link that says "free shipping and 20% cash back." This will get you an extra twenty percent off. Go to the PTel website through that link and search for PHONES. You want the N4 at the bottom. Notice the discount code listed with it-- PTNEXUS, You will have to buy a SIM card. You want the Combi Card that has both sizes. You will also have to buy a months worth of service-- choose the 40 or 50 dollar plan. Update your cart with the code and you will see that the total price is 320. In my state, New York,, there is no tax so this price is already cheaper than I would pay through Google. Now you can either use the month of Ptel (a T Mobile MVNO) or sell the card on ebay. In a couple of hours the transaction should show up on your Befrugal account and you should have roughly 65 bucks coming your way, which you can collect in 90 days or so.

My total price was something like 225 for this great phone. 8 gig version only, I'm afraid.
[Nexus 4 General] nd4spdbh:
Just confirmed that Tmobile has LTE lit up in my area... though only 1 or two bars. get ~ 9ish down 1.5ish up on LTE..... Mission Oaks Camarillo, CA

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=miss...&cid=0,0,2186876604411710487&t=h&z=15&iwloc=A

As stated over HSPA+ i get full bars and a good 19-20mbit down 3-5ish up.
[Nexus 4 General] ickwonder:
Cool I'm in Oxnard ...waiting for my N4 to arrive... hopefully we got LTE as well...I'm on Verizon right now but its too darn expensive ..I'm done with them
[Nexus 4 General] wideasleep1:
Sounds exactly like our rollout in NorCal...in a few weeks, you'll have 4 bars of LTE AND HSPA+. Cheers!
[Nexus 4 General] frigidazzi:
I can confirm LTE in Salem, OR. Granted I was only getting 1-2 bars and peaking at 5 mpbs. On HSPA+ I get usually 10-25 lol. Oh well, I'll test it more through. Oh and The signal is much worse than even the HSPA+ signal, but I guess that's to be expected with the missing parts and all.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Can you guys tell me if it's possible to get a micro sim for free if you're still on a contract?
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
You should be able to walk in any store and get it for free. If they try to charge you, then go to another store.
[Nexus 4 General] sn0warmy:
Hell yes! This morning I read an article that was published a week ago saying people were reporting sightings of LTE in Denver, I decided to flash the .27 radio and LTE enabler, and configure all settings. LTE immediately started working. The before and after performance is a night and day difference (previously on radio .54)...

And I thought the release of CM10.1 Stable was the best Android news I'd get all week. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] lannister80:
So if I'm on a stock ROM, I just do those 2 steps, and I'll have LTE? Assuming it's live where I am, of course.

Just need to flash the radio back to .33. I have .48, unfortunately.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Thanks, the reps keep trying to charge me(think its 16.99) despite me being a customer for a very long time. I just want a micro sim to replace the precut one they sold me(guy lied and said micros aren't sold in stores).
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
I did get mine free at a store out here. If they try to rip you off any more, then call the tmob "retention dept". They usually will help you...
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
I wasn't able to get one in store either. Dude kept trying to get me to sign a contract. The other stores said they had to activate it before it left the store but they didn't want to do the $30 plan for me. Pain in the ass... So I ordered one online for free from T-Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] Larrondo:
Why the .27 radio as opposed to the .33? I'm not entirely up to date on the LTE thing. Seems like opinions might have changed a bit since I last read about it. I thought the consensus was that .33 was superior.