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[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
They both allow LTE...radiosb higher than 33 won't allow LTE. .27 has better single str= better battery and fewer data drops too. 33 is also slower and less reliable from my experience.
[Nexus 4 General] nd4spdbh:
Quick question.... if i am on .33 or .27 but NOT USING lte will i have issues with incall voice sound?

Either way was on lunch today at the Freebirds in Simi Valley California.... decided to switch over to LTE to see if there is 4g out there... sure enough there is.... AND FULL SIGNAL.... i was astonished at the speeds!
[Nexus 4 General] nick314:
T-Mobile simply does not look to be an option in my city. I got a prepaid SIM card to try them out. As they do not have LTE here I am testing their HSDPA network. The highest I can hit in speedtest is 12mbps, not a night and day difference from the 7 I can do on AT&T Straight Talk. I wouldn't say there was a much higher average either. However, I often get incredibly high ping times. When I show up on campus, as soon as I get past the parking lot, I have no signal. I can't even make it work on 2G. I'm jealous of those of you that have reliable T-Mobile coverage and can get LTE where you live.
[Nexus 4 General] XupModz:
You think those are fast :P
[Nexus 4 General] nd4spdbh:
haha nice.... anyone can answer my question?

If i am on the .33 radio on cm10.1 but am using just standard 3g/H/H+ NOT LTE will i have the incall audio problem?

Is the incall audio problem a random thing... or is it a work no work situation. Because the call i made to my voicemail worked fine... but i just dont want it to cause an issue down the line when i really need voice audio.
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
I'm a few days into my new life with a Nexus 4 and so far I'm quite pleased with the speeds. I'm not getting the 20-35 Mbps that I'm seeing from other users on LTE, but I am getting consistent 9-11 Mbps which beats the .3 Mbps 3G speeds I got from Sprint at home, or the 5-7 Mbps LTE speeds I was getting elsewhere from them. :good::good::good::good::good:
[Nexus 4 General] newspeak:
Drove around Portland,OR today to see how the LTE roll out is doing here....best speeds I've saw were 35 down off o e specific tower ....the latency is what really shines though ...it feels faster even if I was able to get more consistently fast speeds on hspa +

I'm running the latest CM nightly and the .33 radio ...I wish I made a call today to make sure that worked cause it would suck to have to go back
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
Coverage seems to be pretty good in Portland/Beaverton/Hillsboro area. I've only hit 1 spot in Hillsboro that I didn't get 4G coverage.
[Nexus 4 General] rasengan82:
Wow dunno what happened today but suddenly I get almost full bar at my house (edge). Before I was getting nothing to 1 bar on edge. This is awesome no need for Wi-Fi calling.
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Yeah I'm pretty happy with the roll out up here the last couple weeks.
[Nexus 4 General] viewfindr:
Does GPS and Google Now work accurately with LTE enabled?

Also, do you have to change the apns xml file, or is it okay with just the manually typed in apn?
[Nexus 4 General] rebj2007:
I can't have data connection using lte. I'm on ukg latest build and franco r156. Help please.
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Maybe you don't have lte in your area yet. Are you using LTE/GSM setting?
[Nexus 4 General] rebj2007:
I have LTE signal. I just can't have data.
[Nexus 4 General] spudkinks:
Happy in Bellingham wa...

THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE! THE NEW PHONE BOOKS ARE HERE!
[Nexus 4 General] sub1287:
Hmm I'm not sure what else to say without more info to go on.
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
looks like tmobile is trying to move some serious n4 units. they are offering the official orb for free when you buy right now.
[Nexus 4 General] Larrondo:
I'm going to sign up for a T Mobile family plan with my brother and his wife to save some cash. Does it make a difference if you sign up at the store or online? I couldn't see any difference in what they were offering, but figured I should ask in case there's something I don't know about. Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
I prefer dealing with T Mobile on the phone. I think it's much easier for you too work out deals and such with T Mobile on the phone then in the store or online. I've had good experiences with them lately. Just my experience and opinion...good luck

Edit:Talk to the loyalty department or maybe it's called retention department.

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] iGoogleNexus:
Getting LTE in Miami FL =]
[Nexus 4 General] mgorman:
Getting LTE in Detroit

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I just did mine and I didn't mess with the xml file, I just typed it in manually.

Just tested GPS and google now and both work.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
Has anyone gotten LTE near the Phoenix City/Columbus GA area?

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
LTE Confirmed in Austin,TX

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] mgorman:
For those on LTE, are you experiencing issues with certain apps namely Facebook?
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
I've read through the thread and haven't seen this question asked:

I was wondering if a family plan of 4 lines could be made with each line having a different data amount (1 500mb, 2 2gb, and 1 unlimited). On the site, it only lets you select 1 data option. I was thinking that in the store they might be able to give this option in person at the tmobile store or over the phone. Does anyone have any idea if this is possible?
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
Yes you can. I have 2 500mb line and 1 2.5gb line on mine.
[Nexus 4 General] RootTheMachine:
I'm dying to switch over to unlimited everything on T-Mobile. I currently have AT&T. If my bill cycle ends on the 17th this month but the contract expires on the 24th, at what point in time do I need to port my number over to T-Mobile if I want to avoid early cancellation fees?
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
I would suggest the 24th, the last day of your contract, to be on the safe side. I did the same thing but on verizon and the rep told me that porting before the end of the contract (even if the bill cycle ends before that) would result in a cancellation fee.
[Nexus 4 General] shane6374:
I was with Sprint and they said that I could cancel within the last 30 days of the contract without paying the etf. I'd just call and ask what their policy is.
[Nexus 4 General] simpat1zq:
EDIT: OK. From what I'm reading, the one from T-Mobile also can't do Wifi calling. The girl at the T-Mobile store told me specifically that the Nexus 4 from T-Mobile can do it, and that the one from Google can't. I'm pretty sure that she was wrong about that now.

The only thing that I know of is that the one from T-Mobile has Wifi calling, but if you get it from Google, you can't get Wifi calling, but you will save $130. Could someone else confirm this, because, I'm not 100% sure about this.
[Nexus 4 General] jarjar124:
I had issues. Changing APN protocol to just IPv4 fixed it.
[Nexus 4 General] bmt626:
That's correct NO version of the Nexus 4 can do T-mobile wifi calling

the version tmobile sell is the exact same version as the one on google play just cost you a lot more for it.

T-mobiles version is even factory unlocked

i would just get it from google play and save your self some money
[Nexus 4 General] Johmama:
Actually, I did this months before my contract expired with my line on Verizon. I can't imagine it'd be any different for other carriers. You basically port to Google Voice (for $20), then port from GV to whatever carrier. I would actually keep it on Google Voice so you don't run into this in the future, but that's me. I heard about it from some random post in a thread on here and decided to try it, if I could remember where it was, I'd quote the post to give credit. Anyway, I found a simple 4-step guide that should do the trick. NOTE: This isn't guaranteed. It might not work, you could lose your number. Worse, although extremely rare, it IS possible that this fails, and you incur ETFs. If that happens, call your carrier and say you made a mistake. The CSR should help you out with any fees you incurred, either fully or partially. Anyway:

1. port your phone number to google voice (automated process takes exactly 24hrs to complete).

2. right after you request a port, go to vzw(or whatever your carrier is) website and request a new number.

3. pray until you get an email from google that your port is complete.

4. then port your number to straight talk or keep the number on google voice.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Has anyone signed up for the new JUMP program? And do you think its worth it?

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] paranoid android85:
I just saw that. Seems cool, but it won't be your phone, you'll have to give it back for a new phone
[Nexus 4 General] AnotherBill:
That's reasonable for most people since most users with give away or throwaway their old phones.
[Nexus 4 General] paranoid android85:
True. I wonder if you would have to unroot the device or not. I just jumped to t-mobile last week, I wonder if I can do the jump program. I'm still paying for this phone
[Nexus 4 General] pwc realtor:
They said existing customers could enroll for a limited time.
[Nexus 4 General] Andrew025:
I wished they did it on non-contract plans.
[Nexus 4 General] pudgybunnyBry:
For somebody that doesn't need to upgrade to the latest phone every 6 months, it's not worth it. I questioned a T-Mobile rep pretty thoroughly a few minutes ago, and it's definitely not for me. If I had the option of keeping the old device and continue paying the EIP on both devices OR trade it in for the full credit then it would look better to me.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
I think I'm just going to stick with Playstore phones..like the next Nexus and not worry about any payments

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] pudgybunnyBry:
Considering it's cheaper in the long run, that's a good plan. You end up paying less every month, but more over time when you buy through T-Mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
I agree with you 100 percent. I just asked to see if it was possibly worth it.

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
Another question...has anybody seen those LTE speeds from Mesquite,Texas.Something like 62 down and 20 Up.Those are ridiculous speeds. I'm in Austin and I get nothing like that.My speeds average 17 down and 9 up. Mesquite is small compared to Austin, is there something I'm missing is there a trick?

Getting Ready for my mini bath with my N4
[Nexus 4 General] sway40:
Prob bc there's not many t mobile lte users in mesquite tx, so it's not saturated by other users yet. I rem when Verizon first rolled out lte, I was getting 50 down at my house, few years later I barely got 7 down. Nothing you can do to get that speed other than maybe move there.

tappin from the Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] aseercte:
Quick question can T-Mobile find out if I tether more than 500mb .I have a unlimited plan with 500mb wireless tether but not sure if they will find out .since I was a sprint customer I didn't worried about this .that's why I would like to know .thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
They may stop your data if you exceed the allocation.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
They sure will. There are methods out there that still work around this, however.
[Nexus 4 General] IRX120:
I have found you can get away with the ring if the device you use is another android device. I thether to my old galaxy nexus just fine

Sent from my Nexus 4 @1.728 GHz on Stock 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] pudgybunnyBry:
I have a question to those that have paid off EIP's in advance through T-Mobile. Last night I paid two EIPs in full, and it would appear that for one it appears that amount was applied toward the EIP as well as my bill, but there were no duplicate transactions on my bank accounts. A rep told me to wait a few hours to see how it applies to me account, but still shows I have a refund of over $200 coming to me. Is this normal?
[Nexus 4 General] adamhlj:
I think you can actually tether to any mobile device: android, iOS, etc. I have even tethered to my chromebook without any problems. Just not a windows computer.
[Nexus 4 General] pwc realtor:
I tethered for years on Nexus devices without a tethering plan and only got warned and blocked this May but they only blocked Internet Explorer nothing else. I switched to Simple Choice but haven't tethered over 500 MB in a billing cycle yet so can't say if they can measure your exact hotspot use when using a non T-mobile branded device
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
What was your tethered usage like each month?
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
I did, yesterday. On paper it sure looks better than what I had with AT&T. With them I was getting 450/min/mo (weekends unlimited), 200MB data/mo, and no texting for $55/mo. With TB I'm getting unlimited minutes, unlimited texting and 2.5GB/mo for $60/mo.

Now I bought my N4 from Google, so I'm saving $20/mo, but in the long run, the phone is costing me about $150 less. And I also had to pay a $175 termination fee to AT&T, but it's still worth it to me. Unfortunately, T-Mobile's signal is weaker in my house, but I'm on Wi-Fi when at home so...

As for tethering, apparently T-Mobile doesn't care where you purchased your phone, if it's T-Mobile branded or not. In fact, the rep made sure I knew how to set up a hotspot.

I am a little ticked off with Google, though. Their website clearly says the N4 is unlocked, but mine came locked. Factory sealed and packaged nicely, but locked. I'm glad I checked, because T-Mobile needed the phone to be unlocked. No big deal, but I'm wondering if anyone else who bought one from Google had the same experience.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Nope, mine was/is unlocked.
[Nexus 4 General] theandrewgordon:
Anyone want to pick up my contract? it still has like 13 months in it. I have very little signal around my house so i will be moving to straight talk. I can paypal you $20 to take over the last 13 months. PM me your number and we can talk about it.
[Nexus 4 General] adamhlj:
You mean locked to T-mobile? I thought when it says "Unlocked" it just means you can use it with any GSM carrier. But maybe buying it through T-mobile changes that. Anyway, its easy to unlock it.
[Nexus 4 General] buzzking00:
I got grandfathered a while back into the $50/line Unlimited talk, text, and data (2gb high speed), but with no phone upgrades.

Is this a good deal for T-mobile or is there a better deal out there for me?
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
Huh. Just a fluke, I guess. Anyway, it's a beauty. I just found out it doesn't support OTG, but I'll live.

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No, not to T-Mobile; I bought it directly from Google as a (supposed) "unlocked" GSM device. It must have come from LG locked. First thing I did was boot into bootloader and saw it was locked. Took me two seconds to unlock. I just wasn't expecting to have to do it myself.
[Nexus 4 General] adamhlj:
I am pretty sure when it says "unlocked" that it is just referring to carrier unlocked, which it is. If you wish to unlock the bootloader, or whatever, you still have to do all that yourself.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Check the development section. User ziddey has a beta kernel that adds a form of otg. It works fine. Also, you're confusing the bootloader with the carrier lock. Bootloaders always come locked. Google is just nice about the way we can unlock ours.
[Nexus 4 General] Rod3:
Bruce7373, you are 100% confused as to the meaning of unlocked. When Google sells a phone unlocked, they are referring to the carrier lock as stated by adamhlj. All Nexus phones are shipped with a locked bootloader as it is up to the end user whether they want to unlock it (which is purposely easy on Nexus devices).
[Nexus 4 General] xor_mind:
I'm ready for a prepaid plan from t-mobile, I've got regular work!! :D

Questions:

Do I need to root my phone to get lte? It's already an unlocked google play phone.

Is there a way I can get a free sim card; do stores usually have combo deals, how much are the sims, will a sim work for gsm as well as lte?

What is the best prepaid plan for talking? I want a lot of talk time, 100 is too few, maybe a thousand?
[Nexus 4 General] lazer155:
You do have to be rooted. If you go to tmobile's site, they have a free (or maybe it is $1 either way it is basically nothing) sim activation kit. Actual tmobile stores charge a lot more for the activation kit (I think mine was about $10 from the store). If you get the $30 prepaid plan, there is a 2nd version of it which gives you 1500 minutes, 1500 texts and 30mb of data. The alternative for the same price is the 100 minute, unlimited text, 5gb data version. I'm not sure if you want a decent amount of data or just a tiny bit. If it's a small amount that $30 plan with 1500 minutes might work for you.

The only alternative is the $50 per month plan which gives you 500mb of data, unlimited talk/text.

See the bottom for the prepaid $30 plans and the top for the $50 one: http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/prepaid-plans
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
OK, guys, I concede, lol. Thanks for clearing it up for me. ;)

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Is that the OTG workaround which includes a Y cable and a power source? I was reading somewhere on the web about that yesterday.
[Nexus 4 General] RussianBear:
Yup.
[Nexus 4 General] snsethy:
H vs H+

Should I show an H or an H+? Most of the screen caps I've seen show H+, and I live in Boston, so I'm thinking that's what should be there, but for some reason it's not. Any ideas anyone?
[Nexus 4 General] n2d551:
It should have an h and ramp up to the +when pulling data
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
So full bars and H+ is equivalent to 4G? Is LTE the same as 4G, or (theoretically) faster? I'm in L.A. and just switched over from AT&T, and I'm a bit underwhelmed with the coverage, but I do like the pricing. :)

Oh, and one more thing: the default APN is T-Mobile-US. There's also T-Mobile-LTE. I checked the settings and they match what others have said they should be. Should I change to that or will doing so prevent an automatic switch to 2G or EDGE when necessary?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Full bars is irrelevant. And for marketing purposes T-Mobile calls hspa± 4g. Using lte apn doesn't stop 2g or HSDPA+.
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
So would the LTE apn make any appreciable difference? I tested the default apn getting h+ and got 10Mb. Haven't had T-Mobile long enough to know what's average here in LA.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
I'm living in an area where we have pretty good hspa coverage but my nexus falls back down to 2g a lot even in areas where my friends gs3 is showing hspa. So I went in the dialer options and selected wcdma only rather than preferred but just wanted to make sure it wouldn't cause any problems with calls since those are only on 2g right?
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
Using lte APN in areas with no lte actually limit hspa+(~15mbps). There were speed tests in the T-Mobile thread here showing how the APN caps hspa + speeds unlike the normal APN.
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
How did you get it to stick? Anytime I played with that setting, it would always revert back to preferred.
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
Oh really? Nothing special at all. I just went into dialer and used *#*#4636*#*# and in phone options changed it to wcdma only. What ROM and radio are you on? I'm just using cm with .48
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
PAC. Not sure about the radio. I would think .48 as well. Is there a setting or file I can check?
[Nexus 4 General] v3rk:
I've had this happen to me too. I paid off two phones and the website reported it as me owing -440. It ironed out when my next bill was available, but it was still higher than it should be and T-Mobile said I only paid what I owed partially. So I shelled out a couple hundred more bucks, still not sure if I got screwed but now I only pay 130 a month for two lines with unlimited data so I'm happy about that I guess.
[Nexus 4 General] pudgybunnyBry:
Interesting. I ended up talking to three different reps and two of them told me to wait and see, the third told me that I did indeed have a refund of $201 coming to me. So I just told them to ship a white N4 me and apply that balance to the EIP on that phone. I'm going to be paying less for it now than I would have if I ordered through Google. A winning situation overall in the end!
[Nexus 4 General] otariq:
Go into settings > about phone and look at the last two numbers in baseband version.
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
Yes, it's .48. Thanks.
[Nexus 4 General] regP:
Sketchy Signal

So I switched to Tmo from AT&T last week and something is strange. When I'm at work I get 4 bars while data is dormant but as soon as hspa+ kicks in signal drops to 1-2 bars. The hand-off also often takes several moments and sometimes just doesn't happen at all until I retry whatever I was doing. This happens on every modem. :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] WARpig5:
Yeah it works. I didn't even need to apply the audio fix for it to work.
[Nexus 4 General] iStayHigh:
I guess LTE is finally in my area. I'm in Lancaster PA

Liquid Smoothed out Matr1x'd N4
[Nexus 4 General] Vortex1969:
Lancaster has been let up for about 6 weeks and just the other day on 272 at Mac D's that tower is LTE now to. Pulled 31 down and 14 up. So I think they are still working the area.:thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] babymatteo:
Anyone I'm Socal experienced LTE yet on tmo?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] xur17:
Anyone in Cincinnati, OH noticed LTE yet?
[Nexus 4 General] ReaperManHK:
Works fine in LA, not the best coverage though. I've visiting from Savannah, GA which got LTE 2 weeks ago as well.

Using .27 radio
[Nexus 4 General] WARpig5:
I was in Bakersfield the other day and they have LTE. I was getting about 25 mbps down and 15 mbps up.
[Nexus 4 General] piscesjoey:
Newark, DE, CM 10.1.2 stable, .33 radio, LTE went live here last week
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
Anyone using the .33 radio on a 4.2.2 AOKP-based ROM having problems with the camera loading and/or freezing the system UI? Switching to the .48 fixes it, so just wondering.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
No problems here. Have you tried a clean install?
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
Actually, to be honest, I did so much testing yesterday with a couple of ROMs, I can't remember. But I'm pretty sure I had flashed the .33 over a restored Nandroid (mysterious AOKP) at that point. I should've tried clearing app data at least, I guess, but by that time I was so frustrated that the fix wouldn't stick over a reboot, I said to hell with it, lol. Thanks for the feedback.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
I've been using AOKP PUB and just flashed AOKP M2, camera loads up fine here. In the passed when I tried mysterious AOKP, I had issues with auto rotation not working when on .27/.33 radios. Make sure your baseband is the same as the radios you are using. Let me know if that helps.
[Nexus 4 General] bruce7373:
Thanks. I also flashed AOKP M2 today, so maybe I'll give it another try. And I always check the baseband after flashing to make sure it was successful.

It sounds as if you no longer have camera issues with .33, is that right? And if you got the fix to stick on a N4 with an AOKP-based ROM, how'd you do it? I tried several times following the instructions on hippowise.com, down to the letter, but had no luck. It sure would be nice to have those upload speeds. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] Qbancelli:
Be very careful because they will find out and sent you the "You're on the wrong plan" message.

I was tethering just fine until I made a mistake to run a speed test while tethered over USB. Thats all it took,

Now I have to use User-Agent Switcher for Chrome to browse the web. but most other apps don't work.

Just got a new free SIM card, and I'm considering opening another account because this one is blacklisted.
[Nexus 4 General] tennandcoz1:
That's all it took.Now blacklisted.
[Nexus 4 General] persheshhater:
Whats that