yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
This Linux version is known for this, the next version in JB 4.2.2 is much smoother and designed for higher specked devices. As Renzo4000 points out 1080p is new and nothing is ready for this properly yet, only been out for about 3 months on any phone, so obviously nothing has been optimised for that. And most stupid games etc just scale to fit the screen because they are not made for that resolution, I am sure you know if you enlarge photo's or anything beyond 100% it pixelises etc

Secondly once you unlock the boot loader and install optimised Roms the system will fly.
[Xperia Z General] Kinoal:
Thanks! That's maybe a beginning of an answer :D So We just need to wait for the 4.2.2 :) Hope soon
[Xperia Z General] CaFFeiNe666:
this one...

sony is first fullhd android device... even tabs were 1280x720..

so software has to be optmized, for example, i have a strategic game (majesty) wich has serious problems in menu (everything becomes unstable) and game interface is too small...

or i tried another game (don't remember wich one) wich started in a window with black borders...

same goes for microlags, new kernel is much more optimized for s4 architecture , so we have to wait a couple of weeks... a friend of mine with nexus 4 had changes equal to day/night going to 4.2.2 even battery performance was much better

you can even block some apps (for example if you have a branded phone, you can have some bloatware)
[Xperia Z General] Kinoal:
Ok So the problem is really the old version 4.1.2 so I need to wait for the 4.2.2 or Flash with Cynogen ROM FXperia but losing my warranty :) Can't wait for this update :D So after this update the system will fly I suppose :) Yeaaah because , I like Android, I like the XZ , it's the only problem :)
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
XZ runs now on 4.1.2 and 3.4 kernel. The 4.2.2 update should also bring a new kernel, 3.6. sony XZ will be the first phone with 3.6 kernel.

4.2.2 together with the 3.6 kernel is way better optimised for the hardware etc in the XZ. 1080p is quite new so nothing is optimized yet, like posted before :)

Also, I don't have lag in Sony launvher, removed the weather widget, added some tweaks and all is really smooth now ;)
[Xperia Z General] Kinoal:
It Depend me I have micro lags when scrolling between desktops. Now when launching applications I have no lags. It's really like the screen don't follow instructions. :)
[Xperia Z General] zippo7kyller:
right, take off the weather widget, photo widget and the lag in home disappear
[Xperia Z General] Kinoal:
The problem is that update coming out only at the end of April :( Wait then :(
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
Just announced, Apple is going through the same sort of issues with app/game quality as I mentioned earlier. Things not being built for the higher res screens...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/21/apple-sets-a-may-1st-cutoff-for-app-submissions-that-use-udid/
[Xperia Z General] lyndonguti:
I really dont have lags on my apex and nova and i kepping those both open..and no overheat problem like you said ..yeah it heat but not that it annoys me to dont touch...

I have a friend who has an ip5 after facebooking via data for 10 min...you know what happend? It really heat up more than the way your describing the heating up of the z...he is apple dependent and no way on the earth that he change phone from apple...he has apple phone since the verry first

But this this time he addmit that something is messed up
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
There's something to be said for the power of Apple regarding getting things fixed, android doesn't have that kind of app compliance
[Xperia Z General] DarkStryder:
If u think quad core heats up, the s 4 even more with 8 cores!! And why do u say galaxy tab 2 was horrible? I find it quirpte funny what u say actually because my tab 2 doesnt lag at all or get that very hot:D:rolleyes:

Press thanks if I helped!
[Xperia Z General] Aerys:
This is why I send it back.
[Xperia Z General] ronak47:
I had such high hopes for the xperia z but after getting one it was a massive let down. It doesn't compare to my Nexus 4 and has since been sold. Its the second time a Sony handset has let me down (previous being xperia s failing to best my galaxy nexus at the time). I have since ordered the HTC One and have no doubt that it will be a beast as mentioned by various tech sites.
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
How did it let you down?
[Xperia Z General] ronak47:
Poor screen

Poor battery life

Vibration too loud

Laggy

Non customisable status bar shortcuts

Poor speaker placement

No wireless charging

Don't get me wrong it's a good phone but in my honest opinion, the nexus 4 is better in regards to all mentioned above.
[Xperia Z General] omnius1:
Thanks, I'm thinking of taking a pass on this year's phones and going Nexus like my gut instinct is telling me
[Xperia Z General] ronak47:
To be honest you can't go wrong with the nexus 4. It's a beast not to mention the price which is a steal...

But if you have the budget the HTC one seems like a total beast..
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
trololo

How u can say the nexus is better is just bs, its more funny than anything.
[Xperia Z General] abd_alazeez2002:
Phone experience is very important.

I used to Sony phones and can't walk away, I love the walk mam.

As for HTC, sence ui is unique also.

So you should stick with iPhone, unless it start to make your experience bad.

Nexus phones uses unskined stripped stock Rom without any addition, which gives them more performance than other skined android phones.
[Xperia Z General] andypull15:
i thought real racing 3 played rather well on xperia z. .on my galaxy s 3 the frame rate is the same also on ipad 3 so its more the game than the phone :)

the best feature is showing your friends its water proof they are amazed and don't believe you LOL
[Xperia Z General] Dpk1:
Lol.. you say N4 is better than Z! And u bash Z for not supporting wireless charging?? Maybe all Z owners should bash other smartphones too for not having IP57 certified water & dust resistance!!

Oh, n good luck having remarkably better battery life on htc one (btw having similar capacity battery) ;).
[Xperia Z General] ronak47:
Your English is bs pal.

With regards to my opinion... It's my opinion and having owned both I shared my opinion.

Rather than call people names I suggest you learn to improve your written skills.

---------- Post added at 01:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:05 AM ----------

Oh gosh, another one!

Thank you for picking one of the points I made. Now perhaps pick another!

With regards to the HTC One battery, it uses lithium polymer technology. So while the capacity may be the same the technology isn't, also it should be noted that battery capacity doesn't determine the battery performance - take the iPhone 5 for example.

Nonetheless as mentioned in my previous post having owned both handsets I shared my opinion - not yours!
[Xperia Z General] benziii:
I can tell of different tales.

I unlocked bl and rooted right away, not a single hitch.

-Amazing battery life

-Buttery smooth (even though 70-80% of usage stamina mode on)

-Does not get that hot at all

Only issue I've had through two weeks of usage, is that the screen stayed black one time when I pushed the powerbutton.

I think that is pretty impressive, considering all previous smartphones owned have had the odd random reboot or crash the first week.

Iphone 2g was an innovation and could handle being stepped on and thrown in the wall.

It made me sell a 2200$ nokia I'd had for half a year, I will give apple that.

Then it got boring, fort knox like.

I got claustrophobic. Itunes had update everytime you turned it on, it got ridiculous!

I think people need to let the z and it's competitors have some airtime before talking so loudly.

All devices have their birthfaults, if one is to expect anything else, one should demand it from all companies.

Let's hope 4.2.2 brings alot of stuff for our full hd babies (on all platforms for that matter)

2 cents
[Xperia Z General] cosinav:
What's your point with the lithium polymer technology? That is gives more battery life despite being the same capacity as standard lithium ion batteries? If thats your point then you don't know your battery technology. The benefits of lithium polymer is not extra energy performance but its light weight, low and flexible profile, making it ideal to mould the battery to fit in electronic products as required, especially small ones. Its holds lesser energy density than lithium ion technology, has a shorter charge life cycle and is more expensive to manufacture. So, HTC One + lithium polymer is not going to better the battery life of the Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] Dpk1:
Ha ha.. cool down mate! No need to get worked up. Btw, Li- Po or not, the one is most likely to give you the same battery backup as the z (source: gsmarena battery test - 48 hrs rating same as Z).

And most things you mentioned trashing Z seem kinda redundant to me. Likewise, we all share our opinion. Sorry, if i hurt your feelings!
[Xperia Z General] mathen:
I too am coming from iphone 5 to xperia z its amazing...i am yet to root.Till now i am very impressed with performance of the phone,never hung my phone,no lag so far.
[Xperia Z General] cosinav:
Its 3 weeks with the Z now and quite frankly this is a major improvement from Sony and one of the best Android devices I have used!

1. Coming from the Note 2 I didn't expect the same battery performance. Being 5" FHD I was expecting the battery to drain quick anyway. I carry a 9000mah external battery so I don't care, I'm not going to run out of juice in a day!

2. Except for the camera start up lag, I have experience no lag or micro lag issues whatsoever.

3. My only complaints are a few; the wifi issue, signal not strong enough, the ear piece/speaker volumes not loud enough and I wished the volume on the walkman would be louder. Hope the next update can fix it.

For me, the gaming experience on Android is not the best. If I want gaming, then I resort to my iPad4. No device is perfect. Every tech device will have its good and bad, whether its Apple, Samsung, HTC etc.
[Xperia Z General] ffviiifan:
why do you speak about English in a forum where people speak about Phones ?
[Xperia Z General] sacredsoul:
Well today marks the 2nd week I am with the Z and as many have said before me, best Android phone I've used. Stamina mode ALWAYS on but that works for me as I only need whatsapp to work background. Butter smooth too. I'm on a Sharp screen and with the white balance setting, pretty happy with it. It's really a wonderful piece of hardware.

My only 2 major grips is the battery life and the camera. Even with Stamina mode on, battery life is average at best. And the camera has quite a few issues like slow start up and not exactly crystal clear photos. But I believe both of this could be fixed with a software update. Hopefully, these issues will be fixed on the 4.2.2 release.

Coming from an iPhone 5, I am still getting used the the large screen and the additional weight, especially when I am lying down in bed. Always have a fear its gonna fall screen first on my face but I guess I'll get used to it in time :)
[Xperia Z General] nickporwal:
I am coming from the S3 and i think xperia z is way better. I have used galaxy s, s2 and s3. Even samsung phones suffer from some major issues time to time. its just that it takes few firmware updates to get everything smooth. Sony has done a great job. Atleast in the design department. If you look at samsung phones, all looks same. You cannot even tel a difference between a 20k grand phone and 40k S3. S3 is no doubt a great phone. But i think sony should be appreciated for atleast increasing the level from their previous phones. I just hope 4.2.2 update sorts out everything. Regarding the heating issue and lags, Believe me while playing games even S3 used to get very hot. Even with undervolting. And sure even S3 has suffered from micro lags here and there in the starting of its launch. Micro lags is something given from the Android OS. But android has come a long way. I feel my xperia z is quite smooth and lag free even with stamina mode ON. Also i have compared while gaming NFS most wanted on both S3 and xperia z. Loading times and smoothness was way ahead in xperia z than S3. So yes its a great improvement. In other games also loading times is very good in xperia Z. We just need some more ROMs and love from the developers. I think Sony should market this phone as both dev and simple consumer friendly phone.

PS:-- I am getting more batteylife than my S3. I am getting almost 5h screen on time. Also i am loving the natural colors of the screen. Only thin downside is the camera quality. Damn Sony you are the pioneer in the lenses. Do something. once sony corrects the camera quality, this phone will be complete. I just hope Sony doesnt dissappoint us in this area. Considering that same lens has been used in the S4 also. Sony just messed up in the software department. Step up your game Sony.
[Xperia Z General] 008bond:
Poor battery life - depends on usage, I can get a full day of heavy usage.

Vibration too loud - subjective, but okay.

Laggy - Not here.

Non customisable status bar shortcuts - And which non-rooted phone gives you the ability to customize it? (Only cyanogenmod gives me flashlight toggles)

Poor speaker placement - Agreed

No wireless charging - Dock charges faster than wireless chargers. In fact, how is the dock not wireless charging when you don't have to plug in a wire?
[Xperia Z General] hung2900:
:)

About the toggles, on my Note 2 stock 4.1.2 I can customize them
[Xperia Z General] R!n:
The Z has two contacts on the left side which connect to the dock.

Anyway, back to topic.

I haven't had any kind of lag/speed issues yet.

The phone runs pretty fast and smooth with stock clock speeds on krabappel2548's XZ Revolution.

The battery performance on stock surely isnt great, while I get only 16h on stock I can get up to 3 days on a custom rom, which is fine for the XZ.

I had some overheating issues in the first few hours of heavy usage playing RR3 on stock. (which runs pretty good despite rendering at 1080p)

But I've been playing for an hour straight today and it didn't even get hot.

Since I'm jumping from a X10 I'm more than just satisfied with the phone.
[Xperia Z General] 008bond:
Aha, thank you for letting me know :)

Yes, but its not very different from wireless charging. The way I see it, people want wireless charging so that they don't have to use wires.
[Xperia Z General] lay_forat:
You're absolutely right about the lag and etc.... Don't compare android with the ios people get very frustratedly here I've got ipad 4 and even iPod touch 5th gen I never dare to compare them with my xperia z coz I know the results
[Xperia Z General] Lulabby:
Which custom do you use to get good battery? Thanks
[Xperia Z General] R!n:
I'm currently using KA02.2 Xperia Z Revolution™

Without Stamina mode activated I only lost around 3% of battery in 8h on standby.
[Xperia Z General] Lulabby:
Thanks a lot, I will try!:good:

---------- Post added at 09:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:10 PM ----------

I see the build date of KA02.2 Xperia Z Revolution™ is older than the new updated Sony firmware (fix sudden dead) but the build number is equal so not sure if KA02.2 Xperia Z Revolution™ firmware includes all the newest fixes? thanks
[Xperia Z General] benziii:
If you can't dunk it, chunk it!:cool:

EDIT: Fullsize!

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/76652659/DSC_0121.JPG
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
Im not your pal in anyway at all
[Xperia Z General] DarkStryder:
Nice pic

No need to be unfriendly mate

Press thanks if I helped!
[Xperia Z General] Ame123:
Htc one even more poor battery life worst camera not a single toggle in the notification panel no wireless charging..so why did you ordered the htc one?
[Xperia Z General] nickporwal:
I am not a htc fan but the battery life of one is better than xperia z. Also the processor is much better. But as of now i am quiet happy with the xperia z. Just waiting for more development.
[Xperia Z General] abd_alazeez2002:
Funny how you talk about HTC one as if it was released.

Note that htc uses a heavy ui that uses a lot of ram and battry.

I used to have HTC evo 3d, and I cant keep the phone away from the charger.
[Xperia Z General] viper001:
snip: When you keep the apps open doesn't matter if you have 20 apps open. They all stay open and you can start it after 2 days from the multitasking bar, you can still continue where you left the app from.

And there are tons of these little things which people don't even know when they use their phone.

This is why Android needs the double processor of iPhone to get the similar speed as iPhone.

That's a rather simplistic (perfect world) explanation, and you forgot to add:

1. what would happen when you run out off RAM.

2. OOM (out of memory) groupings.

3. minfree

in the real world, Android will close unused apps and services if memory is needed. and that "taskbar look alike" when you long press home? Just like in the IOS, it's not a taskbar... It's "recent apps" :silly:

Snip:

Heating up problem, because Android uses full OS + game for processor.

Iphone Hibernates (sleep) the OS and uses Processor full for gaming.

If running the OS + game will make a processor run 100%, then there is no difference if the processor is also running 100% for a game alone...

Snip:

Think about it, apple has 20+ years ( I don't know how much exactly) experience on Operating Systems.

Google just came in with Android. The earlier versions under 4.0 were bullSh!t and very slow. They did build enough experience to speed up Androids OS now last years

Hey! watch the language....:cyclops:

IMHO GingerBread 2.3.7 is actually quite fast. Quite surprised to find it on the Xperia Go and running silky smooth.

just my 2 cents.
[Xperia Z General] nickporwal:
Double post

---------- Post added at 04:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:36 PM ----------

Dude don't bash anyone if you dont know anything. Htc one had been released in few countries and results are out. Also htc is using a new and very light ui in htc one. Once again I am not a fan of htc. Just stating the facts. I am quite happy with the xperia z except for the camera quality
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Because the extra 0.2 GHz clock speed makes the One's processor "much better".

Why not compare how much RAM is available when you've BlinkFeed and Sense 5 running on the One compared the Z?
[Xperia Z General] viper001:
It's not just the extra 200Mhz. It also the faster memory and "speed optimized" (whatever that is..:p) Adreno 320 GPU.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Put a 1333Mhz RAM in your PC, then replace it with 1866Mhz. Tell me if you notice any difference.

Hint: you won't ;)

Not saying that faster is not better - of course it is. It's just that people here tend to hear "new and slightly faster" as "revolutionary, totally amazing and trashing competition" which is not really the case ;) There is just no way you could see the real-life difference on a smartphone with just a few Mhz faster memory chips. It's the overall upgrade that makes it faster. BTW> Speed optimized probably means overclocked or with newer drivers - look what Samsung did when they used new drivers for Mali GPU on Galaxy Note. Incredible performance gain.
[Xperia Z General] viper001:
You're right on that account. However, if the system is made to make use of the extra speed... It might not be noticeable to the user but benchmarks will show otherwise.

BTW, isn't the performance gain of the 600 over the S4 pro already covered by a Qualcomm article?

Also, if anyone is wondering the same, check out the Nexus 4 thread. They have worse benchmark results against the same hardware, let alone the 600 powered HTC... On stock ROM. ;)

However, I see some guys coming close to SG4 scores on optimized custom ROMS running @1.8 Ghz.
[Xperia Z General] nickporwal:
I am not saying the extra speed will Matter. Processor should be judged based on the speed and power consumption. I am sure if sony optimized the software, our xperia z will fly. Now also i am happy with the performance of it. Just want sony to make camera quality better.
[Xperia Z General] abd_alazeez2002:
Sorry didn't mean it that way

Where it was released!

Anyway that why I don't know anything about HTC.
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
KA03 based on new fw is released :)
[Xperia Z General] Parizer:
I'm experiencing bad WiFi signal with my XZ (C6603, 4.1.2, 10.1.A.1.350, locked bootloader, root + cwm)

My iPhone 4S and Galaxy S2 in same place have ~30-40% signal, and XZ only ~0-10% (disconnecting/connecting). It's driving me crazy...

Update (.434) is not available in my country at the momenty. Can that update help?
[Xperia Z General] sipe1:
Download .434 and flash it over flashtool, you do not need unlocked bootloader (but I'm not sure).

Because all stock firmwares have all languages, just pick one that is unbranded.
[Xperia Z General] Xeon:
Ironically, 4.2.2 is slower on my Xperia Z than my 4.1.2 .... go figure...
[Xperia Z General] arttree:
everyone heard you in this post Android 4.2.2 Update - Impressions & Reviews! Do your have to dig out this OLD topic to spam this forum?? :confused:

Post a tips to improve user experience are more welcome here, if your love xperia phone and xda forum!
[Xperia Z General] Kirkymole:
Mate you think the Xperia is bad for heat output? My HTC One S used to turn itself off it got so hot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xtam:
I am curious why here on xda is not much about this great rom?

http://goo.im/devs/liquidsmooth/umts_spyder

i am using it since few days, it is smooth as in name, battery is ok, usb connection works, it is kexec...and after you install more locale 2 is almost in your language...

only problem i have is - i dont see how to enable usb debugging as titanium backup asks me to do it...

if soemone know, please write here, because on settings-apps there are only apps...

http://goo.im/devs/liquidsmooth/umts_spyder/Liquid-JB-v2.1-STABLE-umts_spyder.zip
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Dandroid2010:
Im going to try this too.

Can i flash it via SS3.11?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] meilbox:
what's the base? cm10 aokp etc. ?

will it work @bmm
[Motorola Droid RAZR] triplex76:
There is no need to enable USB debugging even if titanium ask for that .it works without enabling since gingerbread. you can switch off the message inside titanium setting.however USB debugging is inside developer settings menu.this ROM is old.that's why it's not listed here
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davtse:
Are you sure it's kexec? I've been using the liquidsmooth from crackflasher's nightlies, that one runs on the ICS kernel. absolutely love the rom and it's stability
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nandeh:
You can enable USB debugging tapping 4 or 5 times (don't remember exactly) over Compilation Number at Phone Info Settings. You will get a notice adverting you about it... :)

Yeah, it's Kexec i'm sure... I have seen it on the zip
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xtam:
This rom is not old, it is from 15 mar 2013

Base is probably some cm

Kernel is kexec, you can flash it having already installed any other kernel

In bmm 0.3.4 just enable kexec, i have it on slot_3

kernel inside this rom is 3.0.31 by dhacker29

it can be connected to usb pc and there is no reboot.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xtam:
yes, it is kexec, after downloading you can see it in folder /system/etc/kexec
[Motorola Droid RAZR] davtse:
hmm tried it for just abit on system 2 of bmm, it's seems pretty stable, but i think i will stick with the non-kexec version for the time being. works better with motomizer for underclocking/undervolting

http://sts-dev-team.crackflasher.com/nightlies/umts_spyder/liquidsmooth/
[Motorola Droid RAZR] shobon:
It's not based on CM or AOKP, Liquid Smooth uses their own source.
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Nandeh:
Just installed it in Slot_2 using BMM and works like a charm! Smooth, fast and a lot of customization options. Really I love it!!

I hope they can add Spanish language because with morelocale is not enough to get everything in spanish.

Thanks for this!!
[Motorola Droid RAZR] xtam:
are there any other roms based on new kexec kernel, which also uses own sources, not aokp or cm ?