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[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Look you can think what you want. Anyone buying a nexus knows just what they are getting. The basics. The rest is up to us. Want a killer camera app, then build it or buy a crapware filled OEM device.

Nope I guess your gonna develop on a device where all the files for the camera are closed sourced like Samsung or HTC:cool:.
[Nexus 4 General] raqball:
Google should have went the route they did with my Pixel.. Price it high for consumers and give it away to developers at i/o..

The low price of the phone attracts crazies who complain about everything under the sun.. It's a Nexus! If a better camera is what you want try the HTC One or the Galaxy S4..

YAWN.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Yeah but then the developers that couldnt afford the $2500 Ticket price would be left out in the cold so to speak. I know I am going next year but just couldnt swing it this year.

I mean I/O is only a few days off and we will see what they come up with. Maybe we got some new open source camera drivers that will help improve the camera. To be honest I dont think they could do much other then increase the storage size that would be of interest to me. Maybe BT 4.0.
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
Don't advertise the damn phone to consumers if it isn't somewhat usable by the regular person. Sure the bunch of us on XDA will put up with it, but a bunch of my buddies bought the galaxy nexus because of the ad's and they got a less then stellar experience.

If you don't like the camera app? Build your own?

What kind of closed minded BS is that..?

Suck it up, you may think this is a developer phone but clearly it is not... Its a consumer phone with developer like characteristics.

What do consumers see when they see a nexus device? A cheap device backed by Google and that's why they buy it. No where does it say the nexus 4/7/10 is a developer device...Deal with it.
[Nexus 4 General] raqball:
Google could keep a list of developers (I am sure they do anyway) and provide a special link for developers to order the phone at a cheaper price..

May take a few extra days to get the phone into a developers hand (read: confirm the buyer is on the developer list) but it's an easy solution..

If the Nexus was $600 like the HTC One and S4 only the hardcore user would buy one.. A developer could either get it for free at i/o or at the current price via a developer special order link.

I doubt Google is making a cent on the sale of the Nexus 4. At $349 out the door that would be very hard to do..

Heck, my Pixel was $1,449 and word on the street is Google make little to nothing on the sale of it.

My .02
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
That is the way of android. Why do you think they give us all the code we need? Or hold online seminars to show people how to do these things. This is the way of open source programming. Which is what android is all about.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] raqball:
I'm sorry but doesn't Google offer a 14-day return period that your buddies could have taken advantage of?

Also, at $349 for a 16GB Nexus device do people honestly think they are getting an S4 or HTC One equivalent that is priced almost twice as high?

For the price of the Nexus and the features and hardware it offers, it simply can't be beat.

My apologies if your buddies thought they were getting a $700 phone for $349 but maybe they should do a bit more research in the future..
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
Great idea, so all the millions of android device users should build apps for themselves. Let me go to tell my friends to start since that's the way of android...Genius. I just can't understand this mentality...

Maybe you have bad memory or you don't realize that the Galaxy Nexus released at $649 off contract, that is by no means a cheap device...it was only 6-7 months later that they released the nexus at $349.

Don't pull the "its cheaper card", Google is only selling the Nexus 4 for so cheap because that's the only way they can sell it in larger quantities to consumers and developers. The Galaxy nexus was a flop at the original price but at $349 it actually began to sell a bit better.

Why don't you guess what I paid for my Galaxy Nexus?

The nexus offers the best hardware? Sure the processor is great but the rest is below average, the one thing the nexus does exceptionally well is software.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
No I guess you wouldn't.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] raqball:
Why the anger? Can't we have a discussion without the attitude?

If you and your buddies are unhappy with the Nexus line then there are plenty of other choices out there. Not at a $349 price tag though. Unless you want to buy a feature phone that is..

My memory is fine. I paid full price for my Nexus S, my Galaxy Nexus and my Nexus 4.

I think you are failing to realize you are talking about a $349 off-contract phone here.. This is the Nexus 4 forum. It's NOT the Galaxy Nexus forum...

Yes it's specs are less than the newest, latest and greatest but guess what? That $639 Galaxy S4 will be showing it's age in 6 months.. Smartphone lifespans are not very long at all these days IF you crave the latest and greatest.

The Galaxy line will appeal to developers and users who want the pure Android experience.. Users who want the top of the line camera, blinkfeed, smart scroll ect. should look elsewhere, all the while paying a premium for the 'improved' features..

I'm not really interested in having an elementary school playground tussle with you..

Your opinion of the Galaxy line is clear. If you have one why not sell it on Craigslist or eBay and get that phone that suits your needs? Life is to short to go mid-evil over a phone..

My .02
[Nexus 4 General] syahazu:
Octa-core
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Why? Android is not optimized yet for anything more then dual core.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
you do not need an octa-core in a phone just yet...plus i think people are getting the wrong idea of what is exactly octa-core....plus look at all the problems the S4 had with it...now in many countries you are seeing the s600 being released due to the problems the octa had....as regarding the Nexus being not so well...

i say if you are not happy with it then you do not deserve a nexus phone...it is not about the hardware(which i find that it handles itself quite well with most flagships now) but it is about the software..and yes my nexus is still faster and smoother compare to someone who had a s4
[Nexus 4 General] syahazu:
oh ! sorry, i'd play my friend's S4 , look at the benchmark,, quite amazing...,, however i don't prefer galaxy model instead of Nexus ;)

i think that my N4 more better than S4 :p
[Nexus 4 General] MrNagasaki:
Just give it the same/better specs than the HTC One and I'll buy it :p

Love the idea of Nexus, but some of the features on the One + HTC quality + best smartphone speakers ever made... I'm just waiting to hear if Nexus 5 is coming very soon with better stuff. Otherwise HTC One for me.

But really:

1080p 5" display

Snapdragon 800

2GB+ RAM

32GB+ storage

LTE

Better camera... oh how I love the HTC One

2600mAh+ battery

Same design as the Nexus 4, but less bezel around 5" display.

Better speakers... the HTC One speakers are just that good, I need something like that.

I think the above is pretty reasonable :)
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
I could give you a rom for the n4 that scores 99999 but it wouldnt mean much as it would run like crap. Benchmark tests Mean nothing and should never be anything more the lol at.

For those that are really all over the camera. You can have as good a camera as the HTC has all someone has to do it make it. The camera is 85% Software.
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
How is the camera all software...? The image sensor and lens are what allows the HTC One to do so well in the camera department. Sure the added stuff like Zoe is software. I would say the camera is more 60% hardware and 40% software.
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
Ok Ill go with that, But Toss an AOSP based camera software on it and you will not see much a of a diff.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
I don't think we'll get the Nexus live until 2014

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[Nexus 4 General] pak-stars:
so android is not optimized for the quad core nexus 4...so let me sell my phone asap....spell check should be than not then
[Nexus 4 General] zelendel:
You know I could sit here and get technical with you but I wouldn't want to lose you.

Every time I see some one mention about not having the octo-core I cant help but hear a YouTube video about people buying the new Iphone with more GB's and Wi-Fi's lol

As for spell check comment. I'll let that one slide.

Wayne Tech Nexus
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
The bigger problem is when people hear octa-core they automatically assume all 8 cores run at a time. Partially because of Samsung's marketing and also since it is such new technology.

I have yet to see the benefits of this octa core regarding battery savings but I think once the note 3 releases, Samsung will have fully implemented the octa-core and we will actually see some benefits.

"I want the one with the bigger gb's" that video was hilarious.
[Nexus 4 General] xman_here:
Everyone's telling their choices but the thing is there'll be no Nexus 5 this cos Google Edition S4 is now official. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
The Google S4 is not going to affect the release of the nexus 5, the usual time for a nexus phone release is around fall. The Google S4 is just a supplemental device to go along with the other nexus devices in the play store. Honestly the Google S4 is a niche product, besides the people on XDA who will purchase it, almost everybody else will opt for the touch wiz version.
[Nexus 4 General] galaxys:
The S4 is not a Nexus! ;)
[Nexus 4 General] deanesn:
This poll is all over the place. I will take sd card or 32gb. Quality camera is a must. Wireless charging is a must at this point. No more than 5" screen. 1080p would be nice but with bigger resolution the crappy battery so I wouldn't mind stay with current 4.7" and 768 resolution. And please no glass back but no plastic either. The nexus one had decent design for its time. No need to go apple on us with glass designs even though I like the Nexus 4 I am afraid to pull it out of my pocket. And no I don't want to use cases. I buy the phone because I like the design and I don't want to cover it with crappy cases.
[Nexus 4 General] jose13683:
Snapdragon 800, 2 GB di ram are enough, same dimensions of the nexus 4 but optimizing the dead space up and down to fit a 4.8/4.9 inches display. Full hd is not a must but the high end smarphone market is rapidly moving in that direction so...

Gorilla glass 3 display (or dragontrail), but please no glass on the back. I prefere even plastic, but the back glass is too fragile.

32/64 GB of SD card space (unfortunately I think google will never put a sd slot...).

And of course a new android version!
[Nexus 4 General] iletired:
What do I want?

A N5 mini with a smaller screen size.

I love the Nexus 4, but I loathe the screen size. I know I'm probably the only one, and I do have freakishly small hands compared to the normal person. But aside form my small hands, I do think it could win over some iPhone users who like the size of the iPhone and are turned off by 5" displays. 4.3, 4, or maybe even a 3.7" form factor would be nice to come out with a smaller model.

Now, I shall run before the large screen size fans turn on "Torch" and run after me using the NikeFit app!
[Nexus 4 General] HitBobLer:
my Dream Nexus 5

FHD 5.2 inch (flexible) (SAMOLED or similarly colour calibrated IGZO/IPS+) screen

Eight core 2.3GHZ A15/A7 big.LITTLE processor (tegra 4 and mediatek) or quad core 2.3GHz hyper threaded atom processor

3GB RAM

64GB storage

13MP rear camera and 5 MP front camera

100G weight

Aluminium body

LTE (or better

2700mAh Battery

Under 8mm thick.

key Lime Pie

OTG

Desktop environment and Dock in the box

Tetra 4 gpu or ipad 4 gpu

Onscreen Buttons or pie

Accessories

Dock

Smart cover style case

Smart watch accessory

Car dock

Battery case

And for KLP I want

Multi Window

Halo

PIE

Holo

Desktop environment for docking as a desktop PC or Ubuntu For Android

Flash

Full Desktop Chrome browser but with mobile layout (so you can use chrome apps)

Fast file transfer between phones

Easy root

Air gestures and smart scroll
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
It would be good for Google to offer options but I have a feeling your in the minority when requesting a device with a 4"/3.7" screen. Most of the iPhone 5 owners I know want a bigger screen then what the iPhone 5 offers. They quite like the 4.65" screen on my nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] syahazu:
OM* !! These are what i want ! C'mon Nexus 5 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused::eek::rolleyes::p:D
[Nexus 4 General] Tunderpimp:
A antutu bench of at least 30k on the stock rom
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
I must have this because a phone that gets 29k in antutu will run like absolute crap. Benchmark results mean so much to me.
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
Some people just like numbers, good for them.

-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-
[Nexus 4 General] Drifto570:
- Snapdragon 800

- Adreno 330

- LTE

- 32GB at least

- better camera

- better battery

:good:
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
It is fairly likely that it'll have the Snapdragon 800 and in turn the Adreno 330 because Google typically recycles the specs of the manufacturer's current flagship. Assuming that LG is really the next Nexus manufacturer, it will likely be based on the Optimus G2, which we can see from Sprint's server logs has the MSM8974 (Snapdragon 800), meaning that the Nexus will have that as well. 32GB seems unlikely given the price point and Google's cloud push. LTE is possible, as more and more of the world has LTE now. A better camera seems likely because I think Google's engineers hinted at a better camera for future devices. As far as battery, it will likely have a larger battery, but it's a more powerful system and has more pixels, so the actual battery life probably won't be considerably improved.

Your wishes seem to be fairly plausible though.
[Nexus 4 General] I Am Marino:
I'm betting on T Mobile LTE.

-Sent from Marino's Maxx-
[Nexus 4 General] hamad138:
3000mah Battery

Better Display with Full HD

Better built Quality

Better Camera

Snapdragon S800

Boomsound Speakers

TV Remote Control

Than Nexus 5 would be perfect
[Nexus 4 General] hutzdani:
- 4.7inch screen

- 16/32gb Vairents only

- USB mass storage ! ( dumb MTP ! )

- Shorter top Bezel ( more like the N4's bottom bezel )

- Dual Speakers for audio

- 10MP Camera

- Metal Back cover

- Quad CPU / 3GB Ram

- Factory Unlocked

- 1080p

- Wireless charge

- NFC

- 3,000mAh+ Battery
[Nexus 4 General] Tunderpimp:
My bad one that benches that and runs like butter. Better?

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Cuz *@=& my wants
[Nexus 4 General] DesmoDavid:
:good: plus 32gb. 8MP camera is enought if it's similar at HTC One ultrapixel camera!
[Nexus 4 General] DaveinAsia:
Just a couple of things....

Removable Battery - for me this would be the biggest request. I liked that I could change my GNex battery at any time.

Bigger Battery - Absent the first one, this would have to be a necessity. I can't use my N4 as hard as I'd like if I want it to last me through the day and I'm no where near a charger

Larger screen - I briefly used a 5.7" screen phone for a week while setting it up for my friend. Absolutely loved it!
[Nexus 4 General] trsix:
be useable on sprint

And l. T. E.
[Nexus 4 General] cobyman7035:
I still don't think nex5 is out this year... Google went with s4..more profitable

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[Nexus 4 General] raymondyipsp:
Lte and larger capacity of battery.

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[Nexus 4 General] roanmy:
I'd like:

Display no larger than 5".

Display quality to be good. A great 720p is better than an "ok" 1080p in my book.

Better camera quality. The nexus 4's camera is simply subpar. I don't care about megapixels, just make each megapixel

good

.

Proper audio quality. The nexus 4 isn't bad per se, but it is by no measure industry leading.

Things I am less bothered about:

-Removable battery

-Materials used

-MicroSD slot

And preferably made by Sony, hehe.
[Nexus 4 General] cpanos:
32 GB version

4G support

OTG

Bigger battery
[Nexus 4 General] najariner:
Not Much

Display from the HTC One or One X, doesn't matter which

More Internal Memory

Metal instead of the rubber around the phone for sturdiness.
[Nexus 4 General] HitBobLer:
HTC One Design but with a 5 inch 1080p screen

32GB or more storage, 2-4gb ram

Snapdragon 800

LTE

2500mAh battery

Same Price

Not gonna get it unless there is a Snapdragon 800 or tegra 4. Snapdragon 600 isn't worth the upgrade over the nexus 4.

Seeing as the nexus 4 was based on the optimus g, and the gnex on the S II HD (and so on) I think that the Nexus 5 could be based on the rumoured 5 inch HTC (One +?)
[Nexus 4 General] Galactic2:
I think the biggest downfall of the N4 is the camera (for me). When the n5 comes out the quality of the camera may be the deal breaker on where i am buying the new device. I don't need more megapixels. Give me a SUPERB 8mp camera over a ****ty 12mp camera anyday.

I would definitely like to see 32gb at least (cuz despite our best hopes we are probably never getting any damn External SD)

Better Audio quality.

Better battery technology/bigger battery.. (3000 mAh)

New Non Glass Build.

If LG is making the new nexus5, I don't know how optimistic i'd be about the device... I wish Google would hire HTC to make the new nexus personally. Based
[Nexus 4 General] Spl4tt:
A new HTC Nexus would be amazing. I'd really like that!

Though I have to say, I also would like to se a Sony Nexus.

Just not Samsung anymore! plz!
[Nexus 4 General] johngreener:
:D

lte

8 core cpu

4g ram

4100w camera

3days batterylife

video call (not video chat by im)
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
Now, this is mine:

Better camera -- it should be better than SGS 3 camera

Removable battery or at least better battery life without the need to flash custom kernel

Micro SD card or 32 GB version

No more than 5-inch display

Keep it affordable and unlocked
[Nexus 4 General] machoman1337:
Big turn-offs for me in an N5:

- Bigger size (bigger screen is ok if you're clever with the bezels such that the size isn't increased). As it is, the N4 stretches the limits.

- Higher price unless the build quality is seriously stepped up with premium feeling materials like the HTC One.

- Use a nano SIM - no, just no. I'm already having to go through the pain of converting all my foreign prepaid SIMs to micro size. Could never understand why all these modern ridiculously large Androids can't cram a regular SIM slot into all that space.

What I'd like to see:

- Smaller screen, same res if possible. The BlackBerry Z10 has a 4.2" with the same resolution and it still crams in decent specs.

- Either a removable battery, or at the very least an accessible SIM slot like the HTC One S does (small cover around the camera lens)

- Bundled earphones - Don't need fancy in-ear types, just regular old earbuds (which I prefer) that have a button for answering calls. Even budget low end crap phones have them in the box.

- If it's impossible to use aluminum and keep a low price, then use plastic and sculpt it well. I have held plastic phones that do feel premium in the hand, like the LG P930 Nitro HD and the BlackBerry Z10/Q10. I just don't feel comfortable with the fragility of the glass back.

Nice to have but not super desired:

- More cores/higher Ghz - 1.5 quad is already overkill tbh

- micro SD slot

- LTE

- CDMA variant so that some of my friends in the States who are on Verizon can use it.
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
Boy, Google really shot themselves in in the foot by offering a cheap nexus smartphone. Now what do people expect? A cheap device...

If only they had kept the nexus line up as prestigious as it was with the nexus one and not ruined the nexus name by making it known as the cheap device with plenty of corners cut.

If they release a more expensive device that is actually premium then people will ***** about the price and the nexus won't sell. Its a losing cycle.
[Nexus 4 General] DroidDavi:
Id love a removable battery again.
[Nexus 4 General] Stikman72:
Durability is the only thing that I hope massively improves. We all know it'll be Snapdragon 800, 1080p, decent camera, etc. Hardware is just at the point where all we're going to get is iterations now, but that's a good thing. It means the market is mature and OEMs can focus on refinement.

The last area I see that needs big work is durability - Better cameras are easy, screens are already there, batteries are always getting better with optimization (although I believe we're almost at the max in terms of chemistry). Just make a phone that can last a few drops dammit!
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
I agree that Nexus 4 is seriously underpriced as compared to other high end phones from manufacturers (at least should you buy it from Play Store). Nonetheless, Google must has its own reasons to do that.

On the other hand, I guess most people are willing to spend $50-100 more to get better device.
[Nexus 4 General] machoman1337:
Ironically, the Play Store suddenly isn't the cheapest place to get the 16 GB version, at least in Canada.

I just saw Best Buy offering a Koodo Mobile (lower cost subsidiary of Telus) version for $349.99 outright before taxes.

The Play Store charges $359 before taxes, and there's $16.99 shipping.

Still, Google definitely underpriced the N4, and it's hurting the underdogs like Nokia and BlackBerry. I'm guessing this is a similar strategy to how Microsoft and Sony make a loss on every new console they sell in the first year or two, hoping to make up the difference with software, accessories, and of course grab market share at all costs.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
The difference is that the android platform is already built. They have the market share. The underdogs are ironically who really need to do this. Microsoft for windows phone 8 and rim for blackberry os 10. Otherwise, no one will buy their products.
[Nexus 4 General] msavic6:
It seems as if Google can't compete with devices in the $600 price range, they could but based on previous experiences those devices will barely sell. Instead they produce a cheaper device and people flock to it because of price. In the end its not the "glass build" or the S4 processor that sells people on the Nexus 4, its the cheap price and the fact they are getting a smartphone for less even if it may be inferior in some aspects to other devices.

Its sad because if Google continues this low price streak, the people who want a premium and top end nexus device and are willing to pay will have no choice but too jump ship to the S4/One in order to get that experience.
[Nexus 4 General] androidfoshizzle:
Definitely don't want LG to make it.
[Nexus 4 General] xboxfanj:
I think the google edition could be used for higher end devices with aosp, while nexus will remain lower priced, but competitively specced.
[Nexus 4 General] warfareonly:
True AOSP, not just stock android, and I'm onboard.
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
looks like that the nexus program is not dead afterall..:) roll on the next nexus
[Nexus 4 General] Steve5400:
Seems like you forgot that the only thing not top end about the N4 it came out was that it supposedly didn't support Lte.

The other complaint was a lack of removable battery and expandable memory, but HTC seems to be following suit there too. So I'm betting if there is a Nexus 5 that it will have similar specs to the gs4 and one.
[Nexus 4 General] Aldonski:
Don't make it bigger

Upgraded hw

1080p ips (amoled burns the eyes over long periods of time)

Design should be as original as N4.

That s about it