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[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
I am from Singapore dude, an Asian? :confused:

Look here, I'm just trying to help.

I don't need take any insults from you.

The only time Exynos-variety will be majority is when Note 3 is out.

Happy waiting~

EDIT: Also, I'm chinese.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
I wasn't insulting you.

I was stating facts.

Even if your chinese and from singapore, why would you think that the US and UK are the biggest and therefore the only important markets on the planet? When clearly the Asian markets outweigh those 2 combined by a fact of something like 3 to 1... or 66% higher (when it comes to overall sales records)

Anyways, enough bickering about which markets are more important than others, and back to which countries are actually going to get the Octa Processor version.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Can u provide figures to back this up?

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As for which countries are getting octa check info thread the last couple links

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
I don't know. I've been reading too much The Verge & Engadget I guess.

Well, sorry for my misjudgement.

Any country that doesn't have LTE.

But if I'm not wrong, not all carriers in UK have LTE right?

It means there should I9500 right?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vertron:
There's a positive and negative to this.

The obvious negative is we won't get to use the new more powerful A15 big.little architecture chip.

The positive however is the Qualcomm chip will have all the sources. Which means CM10, etc. should be alot easier to port to the GS4. Assuming they chose to support it.

I was personally looking forward to the A15 version. I'll probably wait and see what the Nexus 5 will offer now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
Certainly, those are rough off the top of my head figures, but ill try and find the article that i read. Gimmie a few mins
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Reason I ask is that your most likely to find android as being popular but no specifics as to the galaxy s line

The iPhone is most popular in the US while in every other region android dominates yet that's enough for Apple to be the most profitable company in the world though Apple doesn't make all its money from actual selling of iPhone but that has to say something about the US smartphone market

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I'm not sure about LTE

But the article I read stated that UK will get both versions of the s4

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
I cant find the exact article i read the other day, but it was something around those figures. This is including the fact that Australia and India are also classified as "Asia-pacific" region and classified in the Asian market figures also.

Heres 2 articles i found while trying to find the one with exact figures, stating that Samsung is going heavily after the Asian markets:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57...o-hit-asia-at-same-time-as-rest-of-the-world/

"Asia is a key market for Samsung, particularly in Hong Kong and Singapore. In more emerging markets, like Thailand, Samsung's lower priced devices are more popular. "

http://finance.yahoo.com/blogs/the-...atest-target-samsung-galaxy-s4-212949565.html

"Samsung all but took over control of the Chinese smartphone market last year, trouncing both Nokia and Apple with more than 30 million units sold."

Sorry i'll keep looking though.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hippoman13:
But Krait 300 (for Snapdragon 600) is literally a modified A15 core. On the S4 Pro and Dual core (Krait 200) it was a mix of A9 and A15. So generally, you will still experience the A15 performance with better battery. :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
As I suspected galaxy s3 isn't lower priced they also referred to Asia as an emerging market meaning is not as large

30 million is how much they sold totally (article written in March) in all regions not in Asia

I was trying to point out there's little data on galaxy s popularity in particular regions and based on the facts we do have it makes more sense to assume US and UK are a larger markets

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
Good assumptions, but theres a huge difference in population between US and UK vs Asia-pacific regions....

The 2 biggest population countries in the world are India (1,241,491,960) and China (1,344,130,000), with a total of 2.6 billion vs population of US (313,914,040) and UK (62,641,000) total 377 million...

This is also excluding from the Asia-Pacific markets other Asian countries such as Singapore (5,183,700), Indonesia (242,325,638), Australia (22,620,600) etc etc

Estimated that a total of 4.2 billion people live in the Asia-Pacific region according to stats released in 2010 (Source)

And considering that the worlds TOTAL population is only 6,973,738,433 (so roughly 7 billion)

I would assume much of the sales would be consumed in this region compared to JUST the US and UK which consists of only 5.3% of the total worlds population... where as the Asia-Pacific region consists of 60% of the total worlds population...

Now given their economic stance of the US vs UK i can totally understand that the price of this phone is out of reach of a huge portion of the Asia-Pacific regions, but they still have the numbers to purchase far more units than anywhere else on the planet.

But we'll have to wait and see how it goes, because its all still speculation, even the article i read was speculation. At best we can estimate how many units COULD be sold, based on previous market sales of there previous products, such as the S3 or Note 2 etc and even then, the S4 has far more marketing than either of those products combined.

Estimated sales figures from these types of stats though, does show promising results for their 100million estiamted sales targets:

"Galaxy S4 has received four times as many registrations as the Galaxy S3 did last year -- a 446 per cent increase."

http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/gal...tered-phone-ever-uk-retailer-boasts-50010710/
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
^ I would say your guess is correct. Carrier Politics for sure.

Everything in the world is based around money... How much you make based on a supply and demand principle.

I dont know much about the LTE sales in the UK as i do not live there, but if it was just sold off, and this massive new Samsung S4 comes out, with huge sales predictions. They would most likely be ordering in those LTE versions more so than the Octa Versions. But then again, if the consumer demands that sexy Octa Processor more so than the LTE broadband version.... could be very conflicting.

Im guessing the VAST VAST majority of the population dont even know what the difference is, only a very small portion of the people who are keen on purchasing a S4 would even know theres 2 different versions... the concept of "The dumb consumer" plays a huge role in phone purchases. It all comes down to how the carriers selling these phones wish to market them...

Market them from a LTE FAST INTERNETZ standpoint and people will be excited about that.... the average consumer, wouldnt even know the difference.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
I saw an article which said UK is getting both versions

Also on some rumoured benchmarks showed Exynos being compatible with LTE though probably only some bands

At this point all we know for sure is that phone placement is going to be more confusing than last year

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
That's why Samsung doesn't sell unlocked devices in the U.S. The only way to get a Samsung device in the U.S. is via a carrier either cheap by committing to a two-year contract or expensive but with all the carrier's branding and modifications. And their warranty policy (they void it) for selling non-U.S. phones imported then sold in the U.S. further pushes people to the carriers. I don't know the exact percentage of Samsung's sales via the carriers vs. consumer direct but I'd guess it's about 2/3 to 1/3.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
What do you honestly do with he GPU that you need so much power? And if it's the GPU you care about then wait for the Tegra.
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
I hope the UK gets both. Coz im sure as hell not waiting for AU to get them in, they are estimated to be in June/July from what i read...

I ordered my S2 from the UK and ill be ordering my S4 from the UK, i already have a few sources.

To be completely honest, i dont care which version i get, i just want one lol

My PREFERENCE on the other hand, is the Exynos Octa 5 version, as i dont care much for 100mbit internet, when my phone can only really do things at about a 1-4mbit speed anyways (nothing i can think of requires that much bandwidth on a phone, except speed tests to show ur epeen is bigger than someone elses epeen...)
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
HD Streaming

In my country we get around 3-5mbits that's all u need really LTE is overkill

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
Yeah i totally agree, LTE is overkill

In Australia HSDPA+ = 1 to 10mbit (roughly) and 4G ranges from 1 to 60+mbit

Plus in Australia, we have phone plans with very limited download caps. I am currently on a 3gig limit which is HUGE for this country, the average is 1gig.... imagine a 1gig download limit with LTE 4G... whats the point? and an excess charge of 22cents per MEG....

But apart from FASTER youtube loading... i dont see the need for LTE/4G.... its a phone. My apps from the app store might download in 4 seconds compared to 15.... and stuff like that, but overall, i would much prefer better battery, faster processor, faster GPU and USB 3.0 transfer speeds over LTE... (personal preference, each to their own)
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Exactly you would only want fast speeds if your gonna be accessing large amounts of data in which case with the LTE price hike and absence of unlimited plans it makes more sense to use 3g

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
List of which countries get which versions:

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/20...variant-of-the-galaxy-s-4-we-have-the-answer/
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
It's in the info thread that's what I was telling u to check b4

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[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
opps my bad

i just posted a new thread on it too.

Sall good, cant be "over-informed" on these things :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] skibadee:
You mean why do I want more chance of lag free gaming and have the faster of the 2, not to mention that exynos probably has a wolfson dac?

Tell me when a tegra 4 phone is being released dude and I might just wait ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] thegh0sts:
australia is also getting the 19505 and i think that's good cos i am tired of the exynos processors.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Tegra isn't getting any orders many OEMs backed out it has 4 power hungry a15s and no a7s to fall back on like the s4 manufacturers aren't touching tegra with a 10 foot pole

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[Galaxy S 4 General] D™:
Here is a new about UK S4 -> News
[Galaxy S 4 General] hefonthefjords:
My opinion is that they will absolutely HAVE to bring the octa version to the uk because literally nobody in the average mobile user market wants to pay the exuberant prices that are being asked for here for 4G service.

Why would anyone want to pay £56 a month for a two year contract with a 4G device you have to pay probably 3/4 of the cost of up front when you can do the same on a 3G two year contract for only £25-30 a month for two years and get the same call and text allowances?

It makes sense that the carriers want to try and strong arm everyone into using their newly purchased 4G spectrum so they can recoup their billions but that isnt going to happen because of the current economic climate here in the UK and the grossly inflated prices of the 4G services.
[Galaxy S 4 General] gav83collins:
i dont care, ive had my evo 3d since day one, and gone through an s2 s3 and note but still prefer my evo3d, but its had a battering, roll on release of gsm version
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Why'd u comment if u didn't care

U guys are getting both

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Nvidia should call it a day. The chips they announced last year are no less than six months late and they just announced a ton of new ones. If you can't get the one's you've announced out what's the point of constantly teasing new ones? They have no credibility. That's why when Teg fans started with the "Teg4's going to slaughter everything!" when some test mule benchmarks got published I just laughed. Teg4 has to actually appear in a production device before it'll slaughter anything and most OEMs XDA cares about have moved to Qualcomm.

And it looks like their losing their biggest customer to Qualcomm too.

"Google (GOOG) is rumored to be readying the second-generation version of its 7-inch Nexus tablet that will debut later this year. Earlier reports claimed the next-gen Nexus 7 will be equipped with a 1080p full HD display and

a quad-core Qualcomm (QCOM) Snapdragon processor.

According to Digitimes, Google and ASUS (2357) decided to ditch NVIDIA (NVDA), which supplied Tegra 3 processors for the original Nexus 7, because of Qualcomm’s tight integration with 4G LTE radios. NVIDIA recently announced the quad-core Tegra 4i processor with an integrated LTE chip, however the company may be unable to meet Google’s launch schedule for the second-generation Nexus 7, which is rumored to be set for a debut at the annual I/O Developers Conference in May.

Losing Google as a customer will be hard on NVIDIA, which could now see 2013 processor shipments drop by as many as eight million units.

"​
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I will be more than satisfied with either versions. The octa core would have been a little better i guess, because of the GPU and the power efficiency. But personally i don't play games on my phone, not graphic intense games at least so it's all good. The S600 has so much processing power that it won't be a big deal..
[Galaxy S 4 General] Euthye:
3 have stated that they're not putting up their prices for 4g so unlimited data and texts and thousands of min plus phone for £36 a month for 2 years, so I'll get mine off 3 or go sim only with them, my worry is that the octa lives up to expectations and they release an exynos S4 lte in the UK in Sept/Oct.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Yep, I think it is mainly due to the ONE x and how it performed bad in terms of battery life that OEM don't wanna use tegra anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skibadee:
Just as I thought :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
Tegra 4 ain't popular cause the bad rep of Tegra 3. Power hungry and poor performance. Surface RT is a very good example.
[Galaxy S 4 General] obakesan:
Hi,

ok, I'm curious about this news as, isn't EE the only 4G network currently? So what about the other networks will they get the "4G" phone as well or will it really be like with the Note 2 general 3G model (aka Octa) for most networks and LTE for EE (aka Qualcomm) but people jumping on this like oh no Octa does not work 4G in UK so have qualcomm.

So, if Im on O2, no S4 at all, or 3G Octa version or 4G in 3G Qualcomm or 4G in 4G?

Thoughts?
[Galaxy S 4 General] dethrat:
The key work in your sentence being 'currently' most if not all will bring 4g out this year.

I really can't see them releaseing both.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tietherope:
That's a rough deal. In Canada LTE and 3G costs the same amount. There is no separate plans for one or the other.
[Galaxy S 4 General] R4id3n84:
Hi not sure where to post this Question

I can buy an S4 now Factory Unlocked the 8 Core version from Asia

I'd like to know if it will Effect the Uk Networks and Uk Playstore - Roms ect eg.. Rooting ?

Thanks in advance
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
Nope.

All versions support all networks except LTE is Snapdragon only.

Playstore reads where your IP originates from, not what type of phone you have or where you purchased it from...

So as long as you dont use any proxies or anything, it will be perfectly fine....
[Galaxy S 4 General] R4id3n84:
Awesome I'm not bothered about LTE as my Contract is 3g

How much Ram dose the 8 Core version have and is the Gpu also 8 Core Mali400

Thanks for quick Reply :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] AMDPOWERFIST:
both snap and octa have 2gig ram

SNAP = DDR2 ram though

and OCTA = DDR3 ram

and the OCTA ones has a faster GPU than the SNAP version...

By how much, i am not sure... no benchies to check yet
[Galaxy S 4 General] R4id3n84:
Thank you so much

I've messaged the guy about buying it its $500 which is around £330 Uk Sterling :)

This is on eBay tho but the Seller has 100% Feedback and 34 sold Already n offers 14Days Money Back if not happy with Purchase

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Didn't read the bit where it states Minimum of 2 Handsets :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] nhattan0805:
Happy waiting~ ^^
[Galaxy S 4 General] Thin_Bezel:
You can see here which countries will get the octa core version and which countries will get the Snapdragon version

http://goo.gl/EePDg
[Galaxy S 4 General] r1sh12:
Im thinking of doing the same, my colleague is from Russia and he can ask a family member to post it over.
[Galaxy S 4 General] daleski75:
Are you sure it's not an account which is hacked? Sorry to rain on your parade but there are no Samsung Galaxy S4's shipping until the 25th or 26th of April and the price seems too good to be true, have you got the ebay listing to hand?
[Galaxy S 4 General] EddyOS:
Might wanna read this thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2192394
[Surround General] phonecapone:
Hello fello phone enthusiasts. Would just like to introduce myself and say I hope to contribute much to this community as I have to others. I am getting back into modifying phones once again. With all the new smartphones out I need to get familiar with everything 100%. Originally with smartphones I was a Windows Mobile user to start with until Androids came out. From what I have found out by toying around and reading up.. They are not too difficult and I am already onto rooting my Droid Incredible after a bit more research. When it comes to preferred brands I usually stick with HTC, Samsung, Nokia and Overseas phone brands for the most part.

There is a little about myself.

Cheers,

Non drive by poster
[Surround General] phonecapone:
Having trouble with my old account. If mods can't fix it this will be my new account.
[Surround General] phonecapone:
Phonecapone revived and msgs merged. A HUGE thanks to the admins for all the help.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] swalter718:
Has anyone tried the new Google Keep app? Mine just FCs on launch.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] budde2:
Yeah works perfectly for me try to un installed and reinstall
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] lf479:
I am not on your phone platform, but found this thread searching for others with Google Keep problems. I installed Keep last night, fired it up and it crashed. Tried again,, crashed. Rebooted the phone and when it came back it was like it had lost a bunch of 'data files' . By that I meant the phone acted as though it was factory reset, yet all apps were there. 90% of them would not run and those that did acted like they were just installed and had none of my settings. Restored data only via Titanium Backup and had to reinstall a couple apps. I may wait awhile and see if it was just me that had this kind of failure.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] tpeef:
It works fine for me.

It's not all that exciting, but it's functional.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] megosu:
same here, used to work with stock 4.0.4 but since I have installed (from scratch) Alliancerom 4.1.2 on my S2, it keeps crashing on launch...

any idea ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] angus242:
Are you guys having issues while running a custom ROM? I had issues with Keep on NoWizAOSP until the developer tweaked something and then it started working.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] swalter718:
I had problems with NoWiz. Other ROMs worked fine w/Keep. I'm going to grab the latest NoWiz and see if it's working now.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] mfng:
Using jellybomb Rom v15 and Google keep works fine for me. Not sure it will replace evernote but time may tell.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] swalter718:
The latest NoWizMod (v1.4.6) has fixed the issue for me. It's a handy little cloud note app. I'm expecting Google to add a lot more features as time goes on.

Sent from my SPH-L900
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] zefrenchmen:
Not on SGN II, but same behavior. Crashes on launch, every single time. Installed, re-installed, rebooted, et al. It's not liking the Holics rom I'm running it seems... That is strange... and would make it the first ever app to dislike this rom. Thoughts anyone ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] megosu:
if it can help, in my case it was caused by a customised Google Play (official Google Play but with a dark theme) bundled in Rom Alliance.

I had to uninstall it and reinstall the standard Google Play and it worked.

hope it will help.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] zefrenchmen:
Thanks for the hint. I don't have a themed or homebrewed version of Play, so no luck there. I can find random reports here and there of people experiencing this, on various phones with various - but always cooked - roms. So my guess is that Keep calls on something possibly not included in some of the roms out there... Speaking out my **s of course, as I have in fact no idea :)

Guess I'll have to wait a few days/weeks and see what the deal is.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note II] moorexmar:
I figured out the problem. You have to edit your build.prop file located in the system folder. You have to be rooted to do this.

Look for the line that says ro.build.type=user and change it to ro.build.type=userdebug

Then make sure to reboot the device.

Now it should work. I was having the same problem. ?
[HTC Droid DNA] greyhulk:
Anyone here using the DNA on AT&T and care to comment on what kinds of speeds you're seeing in speedtest and how consistent your signal is? I have seen varying reports about the signal switching back and forth between H and 3G constantly and I know it will probably hit the slower AT&T "4G" backbone with a max 14 mbps radio.

I ordered one to use on AT&T and I wanted to get a feel for what I'm in for before it arrives.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] NinjaWookie:
I've installed the latest AOKP rom and the latest LiquidSmooth Rom and have had the same issue. My call logs just stopped logging calls. It doesn't show I've placed or received any calls. And the only way I can see missed calls is to actually look at the missed call log. And for some reason ONLY missed calls are logging. I did use TIB and tried restoring only App data and App data and System Data.. no luck however. Any ideas?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] mymusicathome:
I also have noticed this when restoring call logs with titanium backup. Hopefully it will be corrected in a future update.

Sent from my SGH-I747M
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] insanesteve:
I have had zero issues with AOKP, always flawless.

I'm a Motörhead and I approve this posting....using Tapatalk 2.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] xBeerdroiDx:
TiBu...therein lies your issue.

you may have to reflash and then restore all apps the way you did except for anything pertaining to your phone/call logs. that is, if you cant get anything else figured out first.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PqRambo:
Hello! :)

I used the PC to make Odin to my ROOT Note 2. My question is:

- If I make Update firmware by Kies, do I have to re-configure and INSTALLING applications again, or is everything intact?

- I have to re-do ROOT?

- It is better to use Kies or PC Odin to make UNROOT?

- I lose the settings of Directory Bind?

Thank you.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] UtkarshGupta:
Intact data. Need to Reroot. No need to unroot.

this is XXXDDDAAA