yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
If you had the s2 how does it compare the glass on the Z if you took the anti shatter off.I've had it for just over a year and the glass has no cracks scratches whatsoever.I dropped it once on cement floor battery went flying but no cracks anywhere.would the Z fare similarly?
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
yeah, it was dropped amply in the past, but on that fcking day, I dropped it on jagged rock, and edge caught the screen. I havent dropped my xperia yet (touch the wood), and I don't want to find out without protectors and cases on
[Xperia Z Accessories] mihaid:
:laugh:
[Xperia Z Accessories] MafiaManV:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31545627

Cant get any easier that this, just make sure you have drivers installed on your pc.. chech device manager for any yellow triangles.. Also if your using Windows8,then there's an extra step u have to do..
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Just received the slim glas.t

Stay tuned , gonna apply right now !

NO sandwich method !

fingers crossed ...

EDIT :

*** CONFIRMED ***

BOTH, SPIGEN GLAS.T VERSIONS [ NORMAL AND SLIM ] HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE PROXIMITY SENSOR

NO MATTER WHAT INSTALLATION METHOD YOU USE​
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
That's disappointing...are you sending it in for a replacement?
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Nope , I'll use it like this , with the sensor off [ manual mode: screen ON & OFF with the power button ], I love too much this product , its amazing

Hope they release the version with the cutouts soon , I'll get it [ when available ] and re-activate the sensor.

BTW , looks really nice without the Sony Logo , had my doubts about it
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
Dude how you deactivate prox/sensor? I can't find that in settings.

:)
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Here , following this : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1658474

skip the android sensor box app

Use the Hardware Disable app >>>> sensor ID : apds9702 "checkmark" it , and reboot ...

Once rebooted that app will ask if its ok to complete the disable of the sensor [ apds9702 in this case ]

Thats it
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
I'm not sure if mentioning Apple products is considered taboo here, but would you say the Glas.T's oleophobic capabilities are something close to the iPad naked screen?

The oleophobic properties of the Glas.T is the main draw for me to get it for my currently fingerprint laden XZ, and I'm willing to sacrifice the prox. sensor for it.

Can I also confirm that with the prox. sensor disabled you have to press the power button to turn the screen off and if you need to use the screen in the middle of the call, you just press the power button again to turn it back on? If that's so I don't think it would be a problem for me. :)

Oh yes, taking off the shatteproof film is indeed very liberating, and the phone is really waaaay better without it, especially now that the front looks sleek as hell without the Sony logo.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
100% confirmed !

You can go On and Off [ during a call ] many times you want using the power button , let's call it "manual sensor" :p
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
Nice..what about the Glass.T itself and the oleophobic layer, does it really repel fingerprints and oil smudges well?

Since the naked screen of the XZ is slightly recessed compared to the rest of the front bezel, when you apply the Glass.T SLIM, does the screen then become flushed with the bezel, or is it higher? It would be a nice touch if the screen was flushed. :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Yes it repel fingerprints and oil smudges very well , that is the main reason I like it

screen becomes flushed when applied
[Xperia Z Accessories] Al Gore:
How is their material in comparison to gorilla glass or dragontrail?

My current phone which is 7 years old just has 3 tiny scratches. My ipod which is 1 year old has no scratches (both used without cases or protectors). I don't know how people manage to scratch their screens.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
This product = WIN

The oleophobic layer is the WOW factor , of course it gets fingerprints [ minimum ] but cleaning it super easy , you can do it with your own finger , no microfiber needed

The protection against scratches: I still have the normal version that I bought in 1st place , couldn't resist testing it with a sharp knife , hehe , its incredible , it wont get scratch as advertised

The shatterproof film

Take all of that together in a 0.26mm film
[Xperia Z Accessories] Noki_chua:
Ha ha ha . I had just put on mine, the slim one without the layer, good news, I had no problem with the proxy
[Xperia Z Accessories] MrL1:
Can you show to us photos?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
My Glas.T SLIM arrived in the mail just now, in time for the weekend. :)

Like avetny, I actually messed up my installation, not once but TWICE! In my excitement and hurry, I stuck on the Glas.T not knowing that there were some very fine strands of hair/fur, so I actually took it out again and tried to use a bit of water to rub it out as it wouldn't come off, but that only made the water droplets mix with the adhesive and leave epic stains all over the Glas.T. That was it, $40 down the drain I thought..but I decided I had nothing to lose and washed the whole Glas.T under running water and rubbed hard on the adhesive side, didn't wait for the thing to dry and I proceeded to quickly stick it on my phone. To my surprise it actually worked as good as new! So, to avetny, do try washing the Glas.T thoroughly and apply it directly onto your phone while it's still wet, it will work as good as new. :)

So happy as hell I then proceeded to use the squeegee provided in the package to push out the air bubbles, but to my horror, there it was, another f**king strand of fine fur/thread. Son of a *****!! Luckily this time it was only one, and it was at stuck at the side of the Glas.T, so I lifted the Glas.T up just enough and used a needle to pick the strand out. Finally all was dandy. :D

First thing I tried was the proximity sensor. To my surprise mine was actually working even with the Glas.T installed. I took out the default Sony "shatterproof" film and applied the Glas.T directly onto the phone though, I think that definitely had something to do with it. To be sure, I tried making phone calls about 5 more times, and the proximity sensor worked fine.

Like pvillasuso already mentioned, this SP rocks, the oleophobic surface definitely makes unsightly fingerprints a thing of the past as it not only minimizes them, but any small prints and smudges are so easily cleaned off that you can even use your finger to do it.

All in all, I'm really enjoying this product, even if it gave me a couple of adrenaline rushes and close calls.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Wow , thanks for sharing all the installation experience , felt like being next to you , hahaha

I wrote SPIGEN , bought the films using amazon , tried to claim a refund .. instead I got a replacement for both units { slim and normal }, once the update version comes out , it is confirmed again that they will have cutouts

So , give it a shot guys , and write them

****************

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 3:02 PM, SPIGEN SGP - Amazon Marketplace <[e-mail address removed]> wrote:

Hello Pablo,

Unfortunately, we have no control over the shipping process as your order was fulfilled by Amazon. Therefore, you would have the contact Amazon’s Customer Service directly for any questions regarding returns.

What I can do is notify the warehouse department to send you two replacement units (one for each order) once the products get updated with the cutouts. However, the updated products will not be in stock until the third week of April.

Please let me know how you would like to proceed.

Sincerely,

Aaron

****************

---------- Post added at 03:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:55 PM ----------

you.... lucky .... :good:
[Xperia Z Accessories] jigarpatel22:
I want one confirmation, is proximate sensor work if I install this SP after removing Sony Shatter Proof Sheet ?

Since I would like to have SP which has no cut outs for sensor and front camera, don't like dust partial gathers in cut out area.

Hence this SP without cutout would be idea for me.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
I'd say you would really have to try your luck here. pvillasuso didn't get his to work even though he removed the shatterproof film but mine was working. Seems that Noki_chua also did not get his sensor affected.

I also think that the version withthe cutouts promised by Spigen wouldn't be as nice as a whole sheet of glass, but if you can live without the proximity sensor then I'd definitely say go for it.

I was prepared to lose the sensor and instead use the mod to deactivate my screen for calls, but mine turned out ok and it was a nice bonus.
[Xperia Z Accessories] cmsbfent:
Definately going to get one of these as the one on my 4s is amazing. I know they are expensive, and this may sound crazy to try this, but I think I might actually apply this in the shower : )

The moisture will mean no pesky dust particles appearing. Hopefully. I dont want the cut out either so the normal slim will do for me

---------- Post added at 09:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:40 AM ----------

Also, after putting one of these on, if I decide to get creative and submerge it in water, will it affect how it sticks to the phone?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
You are absolutely right about applying it when it's wet. The protector will still stick perfectly, and like you said, no dust/strand particles. In fact I just reapplied it for the third time (wet style) because I noticed yet another strand near the left corner. Now everything is perfect. :)

I haven't tried submerging the phone in water yet, although washing the phone under a running tap is no problem at all.
[Xperia Z Accessories] cmsbfent:
Excellent : )

Be good to get the pre applied shatterproof one off, its pretty bad. Already scratched that one in less than a day :D

Anyone seen a scratch test on the bare dragon glass on the front?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Bigmille:
Warning to UK buyers!

I recived my slim glass today via Royal Mail. However I had to pay £4.75 import duty plus £8 Royal Mail handling fee.

Together with the £31 for the glass ($35) and shipping ($11), the total cost was £44 which is about the same as 2 slim glass protectors!

I used wet installation for both the front and back protectors with excellent result. The glass rise slightly once applied to the Z without anti-shatter film.

The proximity sensor also works fine, I tested it by making a phone call. The screen turned off when its close to my ear and turned back on once it is father away.

Overall, this is an excellent product. However, for £44 ($65) I can't recommend it over normal SGP screen protectors selling at 1/3 of the price and comes in 2 per pack.
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Yeah I contacted them a couple of days ago, pretty much said the same thing, they will replace what I've bought with the updated design :) I'm happy to wait
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
I know right... it's totally ridiculous... I had to pay hmm 40$ for mine (Galaxy Note N7000) and had to pay 20 Euro import costs....

I said thanks but no thanks. I really thought that the import costs only applied to electronic products.

The way they calculate the import costs is weird to me... had to pay about 25 Euro for my headphones which were way more expensive (150$).

Still deciding whether to buy the new version of the Glas.T Slim which comes out in April, but if I also get these insane import costs I'll just reject the package.

Or maybe it's time that I had a word with Spigen (Even though they don't decide anything about the import costs)

P.S.

Weren't you supposed to get 1 for the front and 1 for the back??????

At least you got a front and back cover with the normal Glas.T
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Just wondering, how many other people have done a wet install and have their proximity sensor working?

I did a dry install without shatter proof and my proximity isn't working. Maybe I should try a wet install (I assume that the glas.t is wet when applying) and see if I get lucky!
[Xperia Z Accessories] heikum:
available again

The screenprotector is available again, does this mean this time the sensor isn't affected by it ?
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
After reading this , I did a little experiment with my slim glas.t film [ no sandwich and dry installation ]

I lifted a bit the corner where the sensor is located , and let some water in into that area , so I could simulate a wet install

Turned sensor ON , give it a try , and still .. NO GO !

---------- Post added at 09:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 AM ----------

It has never been unavailable , at least @ amazon.com [ US ]

They are still selling them as normal
[Xperia Z Accessories] MrL1:
Cool, can you show us more pictures??? Thanks
[Xperia Z Accessories] Bigmille:
I received one glass protector for the front and an ultra crystal protector for the back, so there are two protectors in the package I got.

Is just with normal SGP screen protectors I brought before, they always came in 2 front and 2 back protectors. So it is much better value for money especially consider the shipping and duty cost when buying from US when based in UK and EU.

I will in the morning, it is going to be grey and snowing so it is not best condition for photos.
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Glad you tested it out pvillasuso, i was gonna also try it out. Guess we'll have to wait. Lucky for others that have the proximity sensors working with the glas.t.

At once stage (for a couple of days) the spgien website said they were out of stock for the glas.t, but that changed really quick.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Jacky113:
How do you guys do the wet installation? Do you just wet the glas.t and apply onto dry XZ or wet both the phone and the glas.t?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
For me, because I screwed up, I washed the Glas.T with water and just stuck it onto my wet XZ's surfqce
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
I wet my phone instead of my screen protector (No Glas.T) I just kept drops on the phone. Afterwards I saw the water between the protector and the glass itself and had to get rid of the water with a squeegee. I'm not sure if the water will "disappear" after a while, but didn't had the patience to wait.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Fasty12:
The feel

Does the protector actually feel like glass or is it kind of the bendy plastic feel?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
On it's own, it's actually pretty flexible, but when it's on the phone it feels like solid, premium glass :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] xeperset:
As an update:

Glas.t installed with Dry Installation method. Proximity sensor not working as tested with Sony Diag + *#*#service#*#*

Glas.t SLIM installed with Wet Installation method. Proximity sensor not working as tested with Sony Diag + *#*#service#*#*

SGP + Other branded normal screen protectors that even cover the sensor work fine, no issues at all.

Note: All installations performed with Sony shatterproof shield left intact

Conclusion:

We must have different sensors/sensor calibration settings between phones.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
You may wish to consider removing the shatterproof film to see if it works. To be honest I can't see a need for the film at all, if the screen shatters you're gonna have to get a replacement, shatterproof film or not. Having the film on won't prevent the glass from shattering..just my 2 cents worth. :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] xeperset:
I was going to do this! But then I saw it didn't work for pvillasuso and he had installed directly without shatter film.

For this reason I'm reasonably certain it is more a case of the sensor/sensor calibration! I could be wrong ) will just wait for the redesign. Did you find removing the film affected viewing the screen in a positive way?
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
Actually the main reason for me to remove the film started off from merely an aesthetical viewpoint as the phone looks darn good without the Sony logo. But when I peeled off the film, the screen looked a tad clearer and colours were deeper. It's not a placebo effect, try it and you'll know what I mean. :)

Plus, the purpose of the film does not really serve a useful purpose. If the screen glass breaks, it breaks. With or without the film.
[Xperia Z Accessories] sdujolo:
Calibration!

I don´t know how the sensor is working on xperia Z but I helped a friend with a HTC Desire HD and for that I found a application so you can calibrate the sensor.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
I think it has to do with the strength of the sensor @ the N7000 Galaxy Note forum we had the same issues. But only a few people had issues.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
I tried some apps for that, but the problem is you have to calibrate before applying the glas. t, once applied you cant calibrate as it does not respond.

All the apps I've tried involves movement

If we can find one app that only takes values, or even better an editable file inside system config with the sensor settings....
[Xperia Z Accessories] :
Screen Protector ULTRA with cutouts for prox. sensor

Good evening dear xda-devs,

after years of not using my account, this is a Kind of Revival :)

I just ordered a Ultra Crystal (not the Slim) via Amazon: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BD5G9JM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (Germany) and got one with cutouts for prox. sensor and light sensor, so it does not affect the sensors/cause the reported bugs.

I just wanted to inform you, maybe I got the "updated design" Version?

As soon as possible I will provie you some Pictures! :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
No, I bought the Ultra Crystal about a month ago and I have the same version as you.

We are talking about the Glas.T version which covers the prox sensor.
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
Ok just installed my new one.....and sensor is fu k ed also.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
lol, yes, it sucks!

claim your ( updated ) replacement

Yes I know cutouts suck too but...

The product is worth it 100%, IMO
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
Oh, no I bought a new one. (they asked to ship back....It will take a while so I payed for a new one...

I don't want to do a review. I'm not excited with this product.

Don't get me wrong "I like it" but I am not impressed. Something is bother me...I don't know what exactly, and is not a broken prox sensor...no man not that. Maybe I see that little gap between glass and plastics bord frame reminds me /2009.

I don't know....I can say at night it's perfect and very preaty, but when you step outside where is light it gives some sh_itty look and I don't know why I don't like it....

Maybe because it gives some blue line when you looking like that:

(I will take tomorrow better picture at day time)

The phone got "dark" display and sometimes you see this in the dark at light.

On the way back to house from the car I saw some weird sun lines distortion. So I clean the display and it's disappeared.

Maybe I'm crazy dude...

And it's only front is glass, the back is basic "ultra crystal" film.

-It feels great.

-Colors/sharpness of display are better than with "ultra crystal" (and it was immediately noticeable!!!).

-Veeery easy to clean. So easy.

(PS Between you and me the "front" dragontrail glass is squalor if we talk about fingerprints. And I don't how it will act at summer time probably crazy.

Back is good and easy to clean just because is gorilla glass).

Glass protector rated from 1 to 10 will be 7.

Ultra Crystal film rated from 1 to 10 will be 10.

Any way I will order my third pack of "ultra crystal" for make sure I have it ;)
[Xperia Z Accessories] heretic:
Looks like they pulled it from the store. Can't order now. I think the updated version with the hole will suck.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Noki_chua:
SGP, has just contact me. . The updated version will come in 2th week of April. . They will be shipping me one. . Ha ha ha
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
I hope they only do a tiny proximity sensor cut, only that one... if they also do the front camera cut , it will double suck, and I will stay with the slim version ( no cutouts ) and live with it ( sensor disabled ).
[Xperia Z Accessories] MrL1:
Well probably i will buy the Ultra Crystal, the SLIM Glass is full of problems, for now :rolleyes: .
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
Dude my proximity sensor is start to working after 3 days !!!!!!!

Maybe the glass film fully lay on the screen......

Try to enable back your prox sensor., and wipe catch and dalwik.

Report me back.

I swear is working good :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
wt...

Going to try when I get home ( later today )

been a week @ beach, didnt bring the XZ with me, its @ safebox @ home

thanks for telling

will report, of course!
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
Nice to hear that the prox sensor is working for you avetny!

I hope it works for you too pvillasuso!

I'm really loving my phone ever since I applied the Glas.T slim on it. It just looks so sleek and premium. :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Thanks Bro , but no luck !! , same behavior :eek:
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
dude same **** again ! lol

I know how to fixed temporary.

You need to disable sensor/restart (conf Yes it's ok)

And after enable sensor back. (do no restart)

And it will work ! But until you restart the phone. :eek:
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Gonna try , if it works this way , it would be easy to calibrate [ values ] the sensor with an app

will report back
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Hey guys:)!

So I received a software update from Sony (not sure about the changes)... And my proximity sensor now works (obviously had proximity issues) ! I had it disabled before and used the power button, but not any more!

Not sure how it got fixed, but it's a win! Hurray!
[Xperia Z Accessories] emilfr:
New update? What is your system Build Number?

Sent from Sony Xperia Z c6602 "Luna Z"
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
+1 with this info ... please
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Build number 10.1.A.1.434

---------- Post added at 08:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:46 AM ----------

Never mind, doesn't work again...
[Xperia Z Accessories] xeperset:
I can confirm the following:

Glas.t SLIM installed sandwich, proximity sensor NOT working.

There is a way to get it working temporarily as previously mentioned:

-Use hardware disable program on a rooted phone to disable proximity on startup.

-After startup and proximity is disabled, re-enable sensor using the same program.

-Sensor works until a restart. Therefore must be a calibration issue rather than sensor itself.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Thanks

@avetny already shared that with us :

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39741821&postcount=125
[Xperia Z Accessories] xeperset:
Haha yes that was what I was confirming! I forgot to add him as quote :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] emilfr:
I got respond from Spigen that they are updating the product to have cut out ro avoid this proximity issue, should be release end of this week,,

Sent from Sony Xperia Z c6602 "Luna Z"
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Yeah it's been posted before:p
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Never mind....doesnt work again... got my hopes high ...
[Xperia Z Accessories] Jacky113:
Just applied the glass slim and after a short test, the proximity sensor seems to work fine. I removed the anti shatter film. Dry install.
[Xperia Z Accessories] koobi:
I orded the 0,26 Slim version from mymbmobile.com ( http://mymbmobile.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=93_107 ) and i got the 0,4mm version.. Not very happy.

I was thinking of putting the 0,4 version on and just us it or is it worth the hussle to send the 0,4 back and wait another 2 weeks for the 0,26 ? :(

Can you feel the diffrence between the 0,26mm and 0,4? I mean its only 0,14 mm thicker? Damn i hate this!
[Xperia Z Accessories] Teknohtc:
If it has the anti finger print and oil resistance then it wouldn't matter imo. Thinner would be better though. :D
[Xperia Z Accessories] emilfr:
This product is back for order in their webstore.