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[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
that makes more sense.

ok, look around. droid dna 1080p , lg optimus g pro 1080p, s4 1080p, new motorola x's 1080p,

so if htc one = 720p, who would buy it? explain.

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[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
^this.. biggest gimmick ever .. and they put that logo in the back to fool people.. touche

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[One (M7) General] hung2900:
But on many reviews, Beats Audio was marked as an advantage of HTC One X:rolleyes: Or One X sound is superior than S3 because of Beats Audio:rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Why don't you just make ten the loudest?

This one goes to eleven.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
And it might have taken the fabrication facilities 'til now to make 1080p displays with an

acceptable level of manufacturing yield like with the problems of large AMOLED screens.

Calling innovation a gimmick is retarded.
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
innivation? am i being retardat? hey what benefit do you get out of it do you see any difference between 720p to 1080p its a gimmick going 720p wasnt cos you can tell different but 720p to 1080p on 4.7 inch screen no unless you are usuing magnefind glass
[One (M7) General] MrPhilo:
In theory you shouldn't really see a different at 720p with 300ppi+ to 1080p screens. But there really is a different, you'll see when you put the HTC One X and HTC One next to each other, the HTC One is just sharper, especially in movies and pictures and overall the whole system. Even review sites have suggested it's a lot better and they thought '1080p' screen was useless and a waste of battery until 1080p screen started coming out.
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
Hi of course i would Samsung galaxy s4 has 13 magapixel Htc one has 4 and i like the idea i dont care about exesive numbers which the case 1080p cos i have seen htc one x look brighter look superior actually if they even improved that screen would be much better.

i have compared both devices and i couldnt tell any difference. actually one x looked brighter
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Seems like you're here to call new stuff a gimmick, to argue for lack of innovation, poorer screens and to complain that HTC don't make phones to suit only you.

That is retarded.
[One (M7) General] anit77:
LOL, no Spinal Tap.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
No your opinions expressed in horrible grammar and misspellings makes you look retarded.

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Lol yeah I saw that was like huh?
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Lol. My bad. I stand corrected :)
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
Considering English is clearly not his first language that's a bit harsh, his English is probably better than your Turkish.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Seriously? Complaining about a 1080p display and calling it a gimmick?

I don't understand how a lot of people think in here. The device stays the same and its not innovative enough. It moves forward with newer look and newer features and is called unnecessary and gimmicky.

I actually thought the screen was the only thing no one was going to complaint about. I guess I was wrong...
[One (M7) General] trongnghia2411:
What he means it that you CAN LIVE with 720p coz there is NOT MUCH differences between 720 and 1080 on such a small screen. Of course there are differences but it's just his taste and we have to respect his opinion.

For me, I think the more pixel, the better. But it means we have to pay more. That sucks.
[One (M7) General] Cookie Ninja:
+1000 for the "This is Spinal Tap" reference!

Dead cookies leave no trails...
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
I'm tired of ppl saying 1080 is a gimik...

You might not be able to tell if your just looking at pics, watching vids, but with a higher res you can see bigger images, you can view webpages more clearly, and you don't need to convert vids before putting them on the device.

If you don't want 1080p go to a Chinese Manufacturer, because NO flagship will come with anything less then 1080 from now on.
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
Just FYI, you can play 1080p movies just fine on a 720p screen, it just downscales
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Indeed, that was my fist thought but the OP is still being retarded :D
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
İ didn't think i had to be perfect on english. saying that my wife is English and she doesnt think That Americans speak proper english. you shouldnt judge people by writing mistakes this forum international every nationalty is here they cant be perfect and you have to learn how to respect first.

Thanks

İn my point of wiev, 1080p on 4.7 inch is no use. can anyone really tell difference between 4.7 720p. no ! Other think HTC ONE X's screen is superior than HTC One's brighter and more vivid so they could have improve that than just put more pixel and less bright screen.high resolution is but when needed. my eyes cant tell any different between both device as pixel wise. do i need to get my eyes checked?

Thanks that was my opinion, but why do we not complaint on ultrapixel. cos more megapixel makes more noise Htc did well to end megapixel war. i think resolution war should end too after 300 ppi. thats my opinion again.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
you just blew my mind trying to translate them into phrases with meanings. but i failed
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
sorry what i was trying to say that samsung galaxy s4 has 13 megapixel camera and htc one has 4 megapixel camera, but actually Htc is better with 4 megapixel. so numbers are gimmick. quality over quantity for me. would you not buy Htc one because it has 4 megapixel camera. course you would. On here XDA most of people advance users. my point is look at xperia z all sony markets is full hs phone but the screen is awful or droid dna another full had one of the dimmest phone.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
so your point on this thread...?

first u were calling 1080p screens a gimmick, and now u said numbers are gimmicks.

what's your point really
[One (M7) General] conantroutman:
If this can't be discussed without the name calling and lack of civility then I'll just close the thread.

Play nice kiddies. :rolleyes:

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
well both 1080p is gimmick there is no real world advantage is there? you cant tell difference by looking at phone.from what i know it just puts mote work on gpu and drains more battery. unless screen is larger than 5 inch like tablet. nexus 10 is 300 ppi if it was 500 ppi it would be waste thats my point.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
There you go. That's when you can call the screen a gimmick, when it's called a 1080p display but does not perform like it should. That's not the case with this device. I have seen plenty of reviews of the HTC One and they all nick and pick at stuff that the device has "wrong" but not once I've seen a review where they say the display is not great.

EDIT: I don't know, all this complaining I hear from the device and I'm not singling out the OP but everyone that has opened a thread similar to this one, I feel they're just trying to give themselves a reason to go for a different device. That's totally fine and you're more than welcome to. But why need the community to help you make that choice? At the end of the day, it's going to be YOUR device and whatever works best for you.
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
No whole point of this thead was. i really respected Htc for ending megapixel war.but at same time carried on another war rsolution. i never said Htc One's screen bad but One x looked superior to me thats may be i live in very sunny place and gorrilla glass 2 is more reflective. what i was saying it would be better to make more bright screen more efficent more vivid screen rather than throw more pixels.

what ever this year i am buying htc one i think its best device out there
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
It goes to 11, not 10. Don't understand what the problem is?
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
Forgive me but what is 11. or 10. i haven't got clue. can you explain thanks
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
English is not my first language, yet I'm not butchering it.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
here's the deal why people went for 1080p screens. and yes it does consume more power, but it provides better clarity and also the pixel arrangements are more uniform. thus no light bleeding and stuff (i think)

for samsung , 1080p is not a gimmick because, the screen resolution is so huge that the pentile matrix flaws are hardly noticeable. as for ips screens, at some point i do agree 720p is enough, but who would buy a 720p 2013 flagship if the other flagships are 1080p?

to typical consumers, numbers are everything. at the end of the day, u hate the screen, u stick with your one x. simple as that
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
No thats my point. every phone this year equipped with 13 megapixel camers but Htc one. but we are gonna buy htc one because 4 megapixel camera is better than 13 espesially in low light. so if they made screen 720p uses very little energy gives better brigtness we be buying that 720p screen do you understand my point i have just sold my one x i am gonna but htc one because htc has put too much work in it and its best phone out there
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
I don't know man. You have me confused. Your OP talks about the screen and how you think 1080p of this device is a gimmick. That's what I'm commenting on.

I'm just gonna walk away from this one now...
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
you and i, just got mindraped. im out too
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
I have to say the OP replies really give me SERIOUS HEADACHE. Why don't you rant on other phones as well, or rephrase your title to "Current smartphones and gimmicks" so it doesn't sound like you have something against HTC specifically.

So I pretty much gather what you were trying to convey is why HTC has to join this resolution war when they can provide a better yet least attractive sounding technology ( like 4mp ultrapixel vs 13mp megapixels ). Yes we all hope for that too BUT being the gentlemen here I have found this for you.

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...-next-generation-of-smartphone-displays-r1184

This is the reason why HTC opted for 1080p. Current SLCD3 only has a 1080p version. And it produces better clarity, battery efficiency and glare reduce while HOX uses older SLCD2. so why complain when u get better thing at around the same price point?

Hope this will clear your confusion.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Gimmick or USP?

All manufacturers think their own product has a USP (Ultimate Selling Point) which differentiates it from their competitors product in the market.

One man's (or woman's) gimmick is another man's (or woman's) must have.

That's progress. Progress, real or implied, drives the market.

Without progress we'd still be discussing catching mammoths via the medium of cave walls :eek:
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
So why do we need this thread?
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
To kill the midnight boredom? :confused:
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
An Englishman writes: yes, you do. You all do ;)

And by the way, how's your Turkish?
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Not good, how is your Spanish? Or sign language? Or Japanese?
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
That is incredibly stupid. I guess English wit is overrated.

I'm not creating useless threads on a topic I know clearly nothing about on a turkish forum.
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Oh my god.

If you like iPhone 5 so much then get it. Otherwise, I'm out of this madness.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Too much for you to process? You can always go back to "yes it is, no it isn't" with no basis in fact. And I haven't owned an Apple product since the 80's and most likely never will again.
[One (M7) General] conantroutman:
Wow.

Comprehension, you lack it.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face......
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
I get by ok, thanks. How's your Turkish?

Basic Makaton, ESL. How's your Turkish?

Mortally wounded :(

Give a care and be charitable that someone else's English might not be as good as yours, wherever you are from, unless they are British or American.

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tl;dr I found some words, I found some links, I'm trying to remix them to sound clever but I'm failing hard.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
As excellent of a writer as you are I'm going to have to disagree. I can clearly see a difference between the 1080p res on my Droid dna and 720p res on my EVO lte. Especially in regards to text. Also when streaming 1080p video.
[One (M7) General] cihanleanne:
you must wear some sort of magnifiying glass because human eye can not differentiate detail beyond 300 PPI
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Look man I get it. Just glad that he can attempt to communicate in English. In your response to fernando sor's comment you implied that the OP butchered the English language because that't not his first language. Well English is not my first language, its not even my second language, yet I can add some commas and periods every now and then to make my point across. I get it that the OP does not know the English language well, but at least add a period at the end of the phrases or double space between ideas so those who read his comment can understand it better and then can help him out properly or respond properly.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Thank you. But as for what I wrote, it's fact and everything said is verifiable via other sources. Perhaps you're suffering placebo affect? Just kidding. ;) Different displays have different characteristics so maybe other differences are coming in to play.

This is from Anandtech talking about the DNA:

"Hands-on events aren’t the place for detailed analysis, the time is too short, and the venues to cramped to pull out a colorimeter. What I will say is that the display is easy on the eyes and offers such a glut of pixels that no amount of squinting allowed me to discern. Viewing angles seemed good, with no distortion noted, and colors were bright without being oversaturated. So, at first glance, a somewhat expected excellent for the display.

Here’s the thing: do we want a 1080p 5” display? At this pixel density, we would be approaching an angular subtense of two thirds of a degree. That's well below the human ability to discern at twelve inches. So is the likely battery hit worth the improved pixel density? We'll have to wait and see."

​

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6455/how-to-build-a-5inch-phone-htc-droid-dna-handson
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
They're tests with photos that clearly show a difference. I have the two phone's side by side. To say it stops at 300 ppi is ridiculous
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Well you do wear those glasses of yours with lenses as think as the bottom of glass coke bottles....:laugh:
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the difference between the One's forum and the One X's forum. The Teg3 One X forum was probably 90% international and 10% U.S. Because the One's being sold as the same device globally it's going to be about 40% international and about 60% U.S. XDA'rs used to participating on more internationally biased forums have learned to be accepting (and forgiving) of people for whom English is a second language. So are people that either travel a lot or do business internationally. If HTC follows in Samsung's footsteps the versions of the One for each of the U.S. carrier will be different enough to have their own model numbers and hopefully discrete forums. If that happens the U.S. folks will be able to chat amongst themselves. If that doesn't happen I'd urge my U.S. brethren to me more tolerant of other forum members who may not have their mastery of the English language.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Gizmodo did a great screen comparison where they actually preferred the screen from the one x but the photos clearly show the dna winning on clarity of text. Which they admit although the difference is slight. There are other tests that showed the text in photos and it clearly has more clarity.

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Tolerance is the best way to go. But if you're going to call someone ritsrded on an English only forum be prepared to be called out on it. Tolerance of honest spelling errors and grammatical mistakes is one thing. Making those errors while being aggressive and name calling is another.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Were to begin?

No I did not.

Poorly, but thanks for the effort.

Punctuation?

My point was the the OP was indulgently blerting on about 1080p and progress.

His written English is perfectly comprehensible if you understand that he's Turkish and we are not.

His spoken English is probably as good as you think yours is.

Ditto your written English ;)
[One (M7) General] jotha:
Thread closed

All that (usefully) could be said about the "topic" (which isn't even one imho) is said. This thread has gotten out of control, so I close it now. Go somewhere else trolling...
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
A tiny gripe for the perfectionists. But I noticed after a day, that I had a couple of tiny little nicks in the aluminium. As the phone had just been lying on my desk and hadn't been taken outside it must have come that way. I didn't see them at first because they are on the edges and not on the back surface. It is very tiny and it was because it caught the light that I noticed it. I remember when the iPhone 5 came out there were scores of people with chips on the black iPhones that showed silver underneath. This is nowhere near as bad as that....just the light catching the fact that the surface is not quite flat. I had the same with an iPhone 4 a few years ago as well. Seems to me that aluminium is very dingable, even in the factory.

Anyone else notice this?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuestK00431:
Mines fine so far, no complaints.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhs89:
None really had a small black mark but managed to get rid of it quite easily
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] poondog:
What colour and is it possible that you post some pictures? I would like to follow this as would a lot of potential buyers :) Thanks, I have run out of thanks for the day

Please keep us posted about this
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
I tried to take a photo of it, but I am going to need someone at home to help me take the picture as its all about getting the light angled correctly so that its clear in the picture. So I will need someone to hold the phone at the right angle so I can get a picture to show. I will try and see if I can get a picture shortly. It is a silver phone, the only colour available right now.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kalo88:
It's not possible to make it 'perfect' so there will be slight defects.

Mine has a tiny little mark on the top that unless you really look for it in certain light its not possible to really see.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dharkan:
Unless there's a real dent or chip on the casing, it shouldn't be a problem. I know it can annoy perfectionists but man, that is aluminium, it is understandable (to an extent, of course)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lezduur:
yep, my silver came with tiny nicks..could feel them when i ran my fingers down the side.not there now [3 days later], maybe 'ironed' out lol
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
Haha...I hope the metal is not SO soft such that it would be possible!

I have wondered if a fingernail is able to nick the edges of the metal. The anodising is only on the back surface. So the bevelled edges will be more suceptible. It is the edge where I noticed a couple of tiny nicks.

I was reading that a fingernal has a hardness of 2.5 (on some scale that I forget the name of). And aluminium is 2.5-3. This would suggest a fingernail striking the edge of the phone could put a nick it. But I am not willing to try intentionally to do so!
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
Mohs scale! :D Yeah, they do overlap on the hardness scale, and nails have a history of being able to scratch aluminum (take Macbooks, for instance).
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcb1985:
Yeah my wife came in the room yesterday and said when she pressed the power button, her finger nail scratched the silver lightly. looks like someones drawn a line with a lead pencil by the power button now. might try to buff it out but afraid if i wear the area down it will all go a dull grey.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
Note to self: Don't be lazy about cutting your nails once you get this phone.

Good call! :good:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] compact_bijou:
My wife has damaged three buttons on 2 DAB radios and one remote control by that method.

Not even necessary to use a fingernail to operate the buttons, either.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CreepyDroid:
Rule number 1: never let your wife come anywhere near your phone :silly:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
Have you ever tried growing your nails out super long? The pads of your fingers begin to cease to exist. :laugh:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riyal:
This is weird. And yes aluminum does indeed has a weak mohs scale and that's the main reason why they anodize it. Now when anodized the mohs scale increases to 9 so how would a fingernail even scratch that?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcb1985:
i can assure you that it does scratch with false fingernails regardless of any specifications.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
I dont believe all of the aluminium is anodised though. The back surface certainly is. But there is a bevelled edge which is almost shiny like a mirror, and I think that area is not treated and is also where I found a couple of tiny nicks (seen when angled under a spotlight) out of the box. It is unfortunately also the most likely bit to be hit knocked, swiped with a fingernail etc.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riyal:
Could you post a picture of that bevelled edge? I'm not sure what you're saying but HTC One is unibody. And when you anodize aluminum you submerge the whole body into a solution. So it's quite impossible that some parts get's anodized and some aren't.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ksarius:
I guess I have to cut all my nails b4 buying it lmao
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llothar:
Anodize first, make a cut afterwards and you will get exactly that
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
This is someone elses picture which was attempting to show a casing issue, but you can see the bevelled edge here quite clearly having a shiny mirror finish, whereas the back and thin side elements are clearly matte and anodized.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39326367&postcount=33
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ste1164:
My edges are fine not a mark :)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
Finally I took a picture of a mark on my aluminium. As I said at the very start. It is very small. Would you take it back for this? There is a second even smaller one elsewhere.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] llothar:
You will have 50 of those in a months time... Keep it.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonstatt:
LoL you are probably right there! I had already decided to keep it because functionally the phone is working well. Overall it is the best phone I have ever owned. I am a perfectionist. In reality sometimes the nicks are more obvious because its a shiny surface...so if it happens to catch a spotlight, it sticks out more obviously. I had an S3 which was a very good specimen cosmetically, but the screen was so uneven in uniformity, especially when displaying grey. I would rather have that nick, and see it once in a blue moon, than a screen that was not uniform and notice it everyday.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djayyy:
I got some gashes in mine but that's from where I just dropped it on a pavement :eek: Gutted