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[Xperia Z Accessories] monsieur_debile:
little feedback on rhino shield

after payment, i received it after a week or so, so its very quick, especially when it comes from Taiwan where is located their factory i presume

package, got front and rear screen protector, stickers for cleaning up dust, microfiber cloth, that s all, no manual guide, just a thanks from rhino's creators

now about applying film to the screen. how was it?

i didnt follow their internet guide, they claim it s easy to apply it and free air buble.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd1N4DMhhwE

how i did by myself?

i dropped film into water, cleaned screen up with baby wipe, removing very last dust with stickers

water will target air buble and that was easy to remove it, dont worry if you got big water mark after applied, also very few bubles will not disappear right now, just let them for 48 hours, it will be naturally gone

how is about glide feeling?

actually i find it quite similar with original sony film, i cant really tell difference between them.

i believe it about same.

how about sharpness?

good but if i had a something bad to say, screen goes darker a bit (like 5%)

maybe because i removed official film before applying rhino

does it feel as rock?

that my biggest question mark is about their resistance, i didnt try to drop phone into the floor, i would take such risk for a film protection!

its pretty thin as screen protection, i was almost thinking about i received fake chinese screen protectors and was willing to mail them for further explanations.

it as thin as standard plastic film and very flexible also.

glass protection should be quite hard

also tell you, this attracts alot ot dust on screen, there is not a proximity sensor cutout although it does work, i got no issue for now

both front and rear have sensor cutout, like i said except proximity sensor.

my ultimate thoughts

i am still scare if phone drops

i m willing to buy harder glass protection unless if somebody on xda has tried their resistance yet
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
If it's a good protector then you shouldn't be worried about dropping the phone.

When you drop the phone while you have the SGP Glas T, the protector will/might break, but your screen will stay intact. I'd prefer that.
[Xperia Z Accessories] monsieur_debile:
i bought Rhino instead of Spigen, its flexible and very thin unlike Spigen Glas T :confused:
[Xperia Z Accessories] wawyed:
I'm still waiting to know if someone can tell me if the SGP slim will fit with the casemate though case or similar as the glass adds a bit of thickness to the phone.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
yes I'm really interested in this too, got an ok screen protector atm but thinking about the SGP but got the case mate tough on so not sure how they would work together. anyone have both?
[Xperia Z Accessories] redder95:
I was thinking the same!!! You tried it yet?
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
nope sorry, don't have the money spare to afford it yet, just using a normal thin style screen protector which is ok but nothing special.
[Xperia Z Accessories] smardu:
What that "anyone have both?"should mean?

Glass+original sony protector? This is the config that i have and it's great, before i had another screen protector but with SGP the colors are much better.

My recommendation is to remove original screen protector and the glass will fit perfect, there are two pics with mine in this thread.

Cheers.
[Xperia Z Accessories] wawyed:
No, glass+casemate though case.
[Xperia Z Accessories] murtican35:
thanks its very thin i look like this case
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
I've just ordered the rhino screen protector so will report back when I get it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] mromantan:
Hi, my Spigen broke today so i decided to take it off and put plastic film. Broke very easily, when putting phone down...

You gotta know that there's a plastic film behind the glass anyway.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Ya mine also broke lately without too much force, already have a new one, but waiting for my new case. One that also protects the screen.

Did you use a case or did you only use the Glas. T?
[Xperia Z Accessories] smardu:
Mine got o bubble after one month between the sensor cut and the margin, there was no way to get it out. In the end i've removed the glass.

I think it was a glue deffect because when appling force the bubble wasn't there, after that it appeared from nowhere again and again, exactly at the half way between the sensor and the margin.

So i've made some tests with the cutter, i succeed to scrath the glass, extra fine scratches after applying brute force. In the end i've broke the glass after several hits with a metal bar.

Conclusion: it is extremely hard to scratch this glass and you need to hit it hard in order to broke it.

All tests were made with the glass applied on the phone.

I will order another one and hope that there will be no glue issues after one month.
[Xperia Z Accessories] 2dorr:
How durable is the oleophobic coating on this screen protector? I tried Benks and after a month or so, the oleophobic coating went away.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Never goes away as far as I've noticed.
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
my rhino screen protector arrived, fairly standard application for a screen protector. immediately the colours do seem better and the screen a bit brighter but without doing a direct comparison I don't know if this is psychosomatic.

it still picks up fingerprints though, but I've not seen any touchscreen device that doesn't.

using it with the casemate tough case; the edge of the case does seem to push a little against the edge of the screen protector, but this already seems to be settling a bit since I applied it last night. it does make me wonder though about how the spigen glass is with a tough case because the rhino shield is a tenth of the width afaik.

for just over £10 and the promise of the rhino shield mk 2 for free when it's released, I feel quite satisfied with the purchase.
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
Besides the promise of a free, second one, what made you go for this over the other glass protectors mentioned? Also, what kind of case, if any are you using with your protector? I'm considering the aluminum bumper I've seen in another thread (and soooo many places online), but I'm not sure if both would fit on the device at the same time.

Same questions goes to others who purchased a glass cover. What made you pick one particular protector over the others? What case, if any did you's decide to use with the your glass shield?
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
well the promise of the second isn't what swung it, it was more the fact that it was a lot thinner then the spigen one and didnt think the spigen would fit well with the casemate tough case, which is a good thing i didnt cos don't think it would have worked well. the case fits with the protector just about right.
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
Thanks for the response. I read the Spigen helps with the fingerprint issue, but I like your reasoning... Does your tough case add that much bulk to the phone? I'd hate to take away from the sleekness, aluminum button and all, lol.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Eventually all good add bulk, if they don't they will suck at their job: Which is protecting your device.

I use: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-LIM...t=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cases&hash=item35c6a7138e

With the protector, nothing to complain about.
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
I would click "Thanks" for both of you, but XDA is acting kinda funny right now... Clicking Control Panel sends me to the login page, clicking thanks splits the thread in two, with the login page at the bottom??

Either way, thanks for the response. I read another thread, where people told their "drop" stories. Sounds like the phone can take a good couple of drops. My main concern isn't destruction, just scratches. So i dunno if I need Fort Knox on this sleek phone...

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Ooh, one other question. Do have any issues with sharp edges with yours as others have had with the other brand's? Just in case I go w/o a case (heh), I'd kinda like to avoid that...
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
no sharp edges on the rhinoshield.

the tough case does add some bulk but you can kind of forget about it cos it's just on there all the time. it's not as nice as without the case but your phone will get ****ed otherwise, i wouldn't trust the phone to do well after any drop tbh.
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
Ordered Rhino last night. The search for the perfect case continues... :P
[Xperia Z Accessories] wawyed:
I bought the case mate though one and it's great.
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
yea I don't think there's another case better than the tough one. the extra bulk is totally worth IMO. it's not that much extra and you very quickly get used to it. don't think you could get protection this good with anything less. with this case and a good screen protector you should be able to keep the phone in excellent condition without being obsessively worried about it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] diopskill:
Do you have a link for the rhino shield? Also how much was it?
[Xperia Z Accessories] simbawimba:
http://www.evolutivelabs.com/ all info on the site
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
Ugh. My Rhino Shield has been in USPS limbo for the past few days. The first notice didn't mention that it needed to be signed for (international stuff, I guess) and when I had it redelivered, THATS when they decided to notify tell me that... I work every day so I'll just have to be extra careful with the phone til I get the shield.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Nanohearted:
This thread is about SGP or Rhino? :eek::eek:
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
Started off about the SGP and others were brought up for comparison, naturally.
[Xperia Z Accessories] flintston314:
As Spigen still won´t offer a rounded edge version for the Xperia Z I ordered a Brando now....thick but at least it has the rounded edges.

Is there any tempered glass out there without cutouts that has the sensors working? Does the Rhino Shield have cutouts or is it totally flat?

I hate these cutouts....they really ruin the design.....but so far I couldn´t find any without the punchouts :)
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
The cutouts and the sensor issues are related, so no cutouts means sensor problems. Unless you have a very thin glass protector, but then you might as well get a normal one.
[Xperia Z Accessories] jimmyboggust:
Rhinoshield for sale - new £12.50

If anyone is interested, I am selling front and back rhinoshield for £12.50!! Arrived after I had sold my phone. 1 only!!

Absolutely awesome - had one on the front whilst I had the phone and it was awesome!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=141073440172
[Xperia Z Accessories] TracerBullitt:
YOINK!

Thanks. I needed a new one. :good:
[Xperia Z Accessories] RoChinu:
The Sony logo is gone? Why the heck did they print it on the shatterproof film?
[Xperia Z Accessories] xeperset:
The screen will go off during a call, then does not respond to any presses/powerbutton or turn back on until call is ended from other side. This can be limited as an issue if you set the power button to End Call under Settings > Accessibility, however it still stops you from using the keypad for automated customer service systems etc.

I personally have not removed the shatter proof shield for warranty reasons, I have had in the past yellowed screens (Xperia S) and loose buttons (also XS) which were promptly repaired by Sony Warranty for free. I don't think this would apply if shatterproof shield were removed (don't quote me on this).

I do want a working Glas.T though!
[Xperia Z Accessories] Ordoron:
AW: SGP- SLIM Premium Tempered Glass protector.

In japan they put the carrier logo on the phones, probably cheaper to produce all phones the same and then make shatterproof film for the carriers...

Gesendet von meinem C6603 mit Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z Accessories] rttnpig]:
So if we remove it warranty won't cover it?

Enviado desde mi C6603 usando Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z Accessories] DJFliX:
I purchased the 'normal' version on eBay, but found out about the proximity sensor issue. I'm still awaiting the package so I can send it back and request a refund. In the mean time I ordered a SLIM version, but I got this message from the seller:

How can it be that Spigen didn't encounter this issue while testing this screenprotector? O.o
[Xperia Z Accessories] MafiaManV:
Yeah, i got that same message :( . At least the seller's fair . I still haven't send my answer as i'm thinking of disabling proximity sensor .

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I don't see that happening :crying: . Thank you for your answer . So, i won't have ability to put a call on hold which will be my main issues with it . I think i will still order it and disable proximity sensor somehow ?

Can any of you with GLASS installed , test this ?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImNuLnp0ZS5Qcm94aW1laXR5U2Vuc29yQ2xpYiJd

Does it work afterwards ?

@edit

Tried this ,and works for disabling proximity sensor on our XZ's ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1658474
[Xperia Z Accessories] Noki_chua:
The screen goes off when making call . .
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
There was a similar problem with the Glas.T @ N7000 Galaxy Note, so no clue how/if they are testing it.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Confirming it works !!!! , what a life saver , thanks man !

Im still waiting for my SLIM glas.t version , hope it works with the sensor , but if not we've got now a solution :good:
[Xperia Z Accessories] DJFliX:
I think somebody already posted that it didn't work in this thread.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Well, my proximity sensor is 100% disabled right now ! :good:

I can manually turn off and on the screen [ @ active phone call ] by pressing the power button ! :angel:
[Xperia Z Accessories] heretic:
This so called "solution" looks kinda half-assed, sorry.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Works for me , [ till new slim film arrives ] , if the new film doesn't work , I'll look for another solution , is not a problem at all ;)

Sorry ...
[Xperia Z Accessories] MafiaManV:
You mean because it includes installing an app for it ?

Better solution i guess would be if someone knew what build.prop line should be added to disable proximity sensor :confused:

If you're using proximity sensor for something else ,other than call related , then this is not a solution for you ,but i'm fine with this ;)

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Glad to help :p
[Xperia Z Accessories] nick2crete:
Agree 100% ,i will not the change my phone function just for a glas.t

Sorry for spigen ,should knew it before by test it ,well the slim doesnt work too ,as people above said ,for you its not a problem at all ?? really what about the rest of all ,spend 30-40E to find out that it doesnt do what it promises and 100% satisfaction guaranteed bla bla
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
I have removed the shatter proof screen and installed the glas.t and got the issue... gonna disable to the sensor now.

And did someone mention that the SLIM didnt help either?

*Edit*

Just went on their site and looked at the dual crystal display... they have cut outs for the sensors.... why would then incorporate them in the crystal and not glas.t ==
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Thanks for the info about the way you applied the Glas.t

I did a "sandwich installation " over the shatter proof screen

I will apply the SLIM without the shatter proof screen , once I get it

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Nobody has confirmed the SLIM version won't work
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
I was also thinking about the sandwich installation as well, but my logic was, why put a screen protector on another screen protector (sorta)...

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Thats what i thought! nick2crete said it wont work and i was thinking to myself, i didnt read it any where, better ask again!
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Because in the end that won't matter. It's a sensor it works through the glass, even if they cut it out the effect would remain the same because of the height of the protector.
[Xperia Z Accessories] RoChinu:
If you'd like to keep the Sony logo I'd advice to just apply a screen protector over the shatterproof film. The film itself gets easily scratched or damaged and contains the Sony logo.
[Xperia Z Accessories] MafiaManV:
Can someone post few pics with glass installed? thanks
[Xperia Z Accessories] heretic:
Sorry, but they have. It's on the first page. Here's the link: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39272442&postcount=9

I was really going to order, but don't want to sacrifice the proximity sensor. Damn.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
applied directly to the phone , or over the sony logo film ?

just asked @EG8196 via PM !

ps. @avetny asked , but I can't find @EG8196 answer

thanks for pointing it out :good:
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
I've already removed the shatter proof protector before I put on the glas.t.

That was my justification I mentioned above for removing the shatter proof
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
ok guys I received my item

Will do review today. With a lot of pictures.

Regards
[Xperia Z Accessories] DJFliX:
Can't wait for pictures ;D

Also:

I contacted spigen, but they seem to think that it does work on 'many of the Xperia Z phones' when in reality as far as I know every Xperia Z has issues with the proximity sensor when used with GLAS.t. Is this correct? Should I tell them this or just wait for it to arrive and return it when it doesn't work? This order is a non-slim version (I already canceled the SLIM and got a refund, different seller).
[Xperia Z Accessories] kingofauzi:
Here is the answer that they made to me about the problem with the proximity sensor :

"Thank you for contacting Spigen.com Customer Service Department.

Hi, my name is Youdontneedtoknow from Spigen.com.

I apologize for the issue you are having with your glas.t. The Xperia Z phone does have a 10% variance with our glas.t screen protector. Some phones are affected and some are not due to the variance. If your phone has issues with the regular glas.t, it will also have issues with the glas.t SLIM.

Our manufacturers are creating an updated product with the proximity cutout to remedy the variances amongst the phones. If you would like, we can send you the glas.t SLIM like you requested, or we can give you a full refund.

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Thank you."
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
So, how is it?! Come on, it's been quite a while... Give us a sneak-peek, is the proximity sensor working or not?
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
I contact spigen about the issues and this was there reply to me

" Thank you for contacting Spigen.com Customer Service Department.*

Hi, my name is Hanna from Spigen.com.

I apologize for the diffculty you have been having with your protector. We are aware of the issue and will be releasing an updated product as soon as possible. *We have a couple options. We can either cancel this order and give you a full refund or we can ship your replacements once the updated products are received. (We do not have an exact ETA but were told it would not be too long).*

I again apologize for any inconveniencs and thank you for your patience.*

If you have any additional questions, please do not hesitate to contact us again. Thank you!"

I'm willing to wait for the updated, no biggie, I've disabled the proximity sensor as well and It doesn't bother me to much.
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
@avetny
[Xperia Z Accessories] avetny:
Guys I just messed it up my screen protector.:mad:

I got some little piece of dust under my screen protector, so I tried to remove and screw it. I contact the SGP, if they will ask to ship it back I will declined and order new one. ;)

Sorry gentlemens.

"40$ to the wind"
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
Sorry to read about that :(

Mine [ slim ] is coming this Friday ,

Been using the normal glas.t with the proximity sensor off , and it has not been a real problem, I kinda "got used" to it , is not that I want it that way for sure , but ....

If the slim version does not wok , I'll keep it on , and use it that way [sensor off] cause I really like the product a lot ! , best IMO (never used glas.t before)

If another product [ update slim version with cuts maybe ] shows up , I'll give it a try
[Xperia Z Accessories] andyboo:
Same thing happened to me when i had a glas.t for my note, stuffed it like you, got duct tape, taped it on the adhesive side, and pulled it off, was like new again and used it fine.

if you were gonna give that a try, make sure the adhesive side of the protector is face down when you pull the tape off. That way dust wont fall on it again.
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
update :

The guy with the slim glas. t, did the sandwich installaton, over the sony film

I guess there is still some hope...
[Xperia Z Accessories] heretic:
I don't think it matters. But let's wait and see.
[Xperia Z Accessories] guybanda:
my friend- you can wash the dust off with water , this does not wear off the adhesive on normal stickers so i assume the same for this one - worth a shot atleast... also these stickers are easier to apply when they are wet, i do it every day in the store.

just take the water off with a credit card towards the edges and give it a few days till all the micro-bubbles dissapear.
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
Hi guys, the XZ is my very first Android phone and this is my very first post! :)

I've also ordered the Glas.T SLIM and am awaiting eagerly to apply it and test if the sensor works.

Today I just peeled off the "shatterproof" film from my XZ and it was so liberating, The screen was more vibrant, not forgetting the main draw for me being the removal of the Sony logo. The XZ just looks insanely sleek now. However, I'm also now paranoid about having scratches on the phone while waiting for my Glas.T SLIM to arrive. I know I know, why peel the film off now when I can wait till the Glas.T arrives right?

I just couldn't wait. :D

Will update you guys on my results with the Glas.T SLIM!
[Xperia Z Accessories] pvillasuso:
lol , I know that feeling , you are not alone
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
I saw Rhino Shield Protector at kickstarters, and the tests are quite nice, your phone is near indestructible with it... Do you think it's the same with tempered glass as well? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zST_lAg_WFE
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Ya but when can we buy them? 2014?:p
[Xperia Z Accessories] Sepulture:
Damn. Rhino Shield looks mighty impressive! Can't wait that long though, so the Glas.T would have to do for now.
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
well, the backers are getting them in mid april, and if you order them now you ll get it in May.. I think, I ll get SlimT now ,and get Rhino later
[Xperia Z Accessories] Dsteppa:
Hahaha ok, the thing is I've been following the Pebble @ Kickstarter and that gave me anotherpicture of how long it could take.

I think it will become end June/July? And will it even be better then the Glas.T when it comes to the proximity sensor.
[Xperia Z Accessories] tamir_89:
well, I m not scared with delay, cuz I might last quite a while with this baby (XperiaZ white)... Last phone was SGSII lasted about year and a half, and is still quite a damn good phone, if you ask me. Thing is I dropped it about 2 months ago, and the Gorilla glass cracked on the bottom left side, small crack, screen and keys are usable, but this ugly crack is just sore in the eye, it had this ****ty anti-glare, anti-fingerprint protector ... Don't want any of it happen to my XperiaZ

PS: off-topic can any of you link me to a noob-friendly rooting topic... saw this rooting method with flashtools and all, but being a noob and ignorant Sammy flasher, want something with video and step-by-step guide, thanks.