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[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
Come on get real. This phone is so far from what was expected. And I don't ask for much.

1- Space age unbreakable Graphene casing

2- Triangular flying V guitar style design

3- Full 3D holographic SMS

4- Inter-dimensional networking

5- integrated anti-nuclear missile launcher

6- Integrated quantum particle colider

7- Iron-Man Portable nuclear plant (USB)

Thats all I was asking for. Is it so hard to do Mr.Samsung?
[Galaxy S 4 General] DeadSOL:
What is it with this influx of whiners to XDA?

The S4 looks like a great phone. Samsung are giving us the best of current generation technology. If you don't like it, don't buy it and GTFO. I really don't know what people expected out of the S4.

Good luck to all those buying it. I simply don't have enough money for it!
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
^^ This.

I remember same happened with GS3. I don't understand why people keep whining. It's not that someone is forcing them to buy a product. Nobody has even tested a production model of the device, yet we see so many complaints.

Bottomline, if you don't like, keep using your current phone. Else, get a HTC One, XZ, and many upcoming phones like iPhone or Moto 'X'
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Aww so no reviews on latest gs4 roms?
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I understand where you coming from, i felt the same way actually before the announcement. I told myself that if the S IV looks just like the Chinese leaks ( and it does) that i would be disappointed. But then i really thought about it and i like the S IV. Why? because they upgraded everything in every way possible except for the design. From better processor to more Ram, more megapixels, bigger screen with 1080p AMOLED technology, lighter, thinner, bigger battery, still removable with expandable storage, shipping with android 4.2.2. When you think about it it is awesome. Now i would have preferred a change in the design to make the phone feel totally different from the S3 but hey, it is what it is. Is it worth upgrading from an S3, i personally don't think so but if i had an S3 i still would have upgraded cause i like to have the latest and greatest. So overall i think the S IV is a great evolutionary upgrade. I think a lot of people are going to change their mind once they hold the device, they always do.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
It's not just XDA. I don't even feel like reading certain tech sites at the moment, since even their own writers are bashing a device they haven't used, and the comment sections are even worse than here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Saturny:
Re: Disappointed in S4.

+99

You, dear sir (or maam), have read my mind EXACTY. Thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kopkiwi:
I haven't seen any whining in this thread. If anything it's been a jovial thread with some valid opinions and views.

Some people had pretty high expectations, warranted given how much Samsung have dominated the last 2 years and some of the very innovative things Samsung have brought to the market. For some, what the S4 offers, hasn't lived up to expectations. Me included.

The hardware aspects, while impressive, were all expected on the device so, FOR ME, don't warrant all the praise.

What I wanted from the phone and for me what the biggest improvement would have been, is a premium build. Heck didn't even need a 5" screen. 4.7" and 4.8" is plenty. Hell the 4.3" Nexus IMO was the most comfortable sized phone I've owned.

If anything, your post has the most whining in the thread. Ironic for someone who won't be buying it...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Soul reaper:
cummon nothing can be perfect

every device has its bad things

and its covered up wid the next update/device thats the way we learn dont we??

the galaxy s4 already stands out from most of the devices
[Galaxy S 4 General] moxia:
I wonder if there are alot ot people with very unrealistic expectations and/or demands for what a smart phone is for and others who have an over-exacting/self-inflated sense of what constitutes 'good' design; as if everything should be totally custom-tailored to only their tastes.

Anyway, with that said, I think I prefer the 'standard' square look of the S4 to the rounded and thin hand-cramper of the s3 (perfectly remedied with a case however with just the right amount of weight/mass gain to boot.) ;)

It seems pretty awesome to me. Love the addition of the IR as well.

It damn well better have an FM radio and UMS storage support. And I'm hoping the MHL 2.0 specifcation calls for simultaneous use of usbotg & video out with or 'without' an ac adaptor. The abscence of an fm radio and UMS support made the gs3 merely 'okay' as a flagship smart phone imo.

Overall it looks good so far. Can't wait until I get the j

ob/money to be able to even 'think' about hoping to buy it. :-p
[Galaxy S 4 General] jackwins:
I was thinking of getting the S4, but I think I will just keep my Note2.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DeadSOL:
Hahaha. Good to see a fellow S3 user coming here. If I can get my hands on some cash and then a Galaxy S4, you'll get premium reviews! :D For now, it's back to the S3 forum to wait for the leaks! ;)

Yuuuuuuuup! A friend of mine just sent me a link about how the Galaxy S4 failed to meet expectations and how Samsung wasn't as good as they thought. What a load of bollocks! A lot of tech 'sites have gone completely crazy. Wait until the iPhone 5S comes out. They'll be drooling over minor upgrades. :rolleyes:

I'm a "sir". :D Well, it's good to know that we have people of good taste on XDA. :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 General] udimars30:
You might watch this video!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8UY44rRTB8
[Galaxy S 4 General] boe:
Do you happen to know what the S4 will have? I have no idea about what the S3 uses or what the S4 uses.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] crooozin:
Go spend some time on a fab floor someday.

"oooh, only 8 cores now instead of 4." The technology, time, effort, money, blood, sweat, and tears it took to make that happen undoubtedly were new all-time highs at Samsung. I don't know how they did it, but they pulled off putting a shrink onto the same chip as a completely new technology , both being developed at different points in time (and under different tech nodes). That's like having 1270 intermingled with 1272...... Different litho, different loading, different CMP effects, etc, etc, OMG I bet it was a nightmare; I bet it took at least a year just to make a wafer with

one

working die.

I've been inside a Samsung fab and if you've seen one you've seen them all; lots of high-strung engineers fretting about this and that, but it's because we think our jobs are freakin' cool, and we get to do things no one else does. This is a case in point.

Seriously. A step change?

I'm betting many of the other differences have similar qualities. I'll also wager there WERE some low-hanging fruit that showed up in the initial sales and marketing campaigns- but that doesn't mean anything was EASY.

Personally, I'm due for an upgrade, and the screen is what sells it for me. I have big hands and the S3 is *almost* big enough. I hope the S4 comes through.
[Galaxy S 4 General] LimeJuiz:
I think people were expecting better material body like aluminium.

Techies wanted a flexible display.

I think it is a nice phone I am looking forward to see the HD screen in action !
[Galaxy S 4 General] johnk1973:
I can't believe the dual sim version is available only for the Asian markets.

I can't help think that a dual sim would be an easy and attractive feature to add. Sick of carrying a personal and work phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] MohJee:
Isn't Knox or whatever it's called supposed to solve that personal/business conundrum?
[Galaxy S 4 General] johnk1973:
Never heard of Knox so had a Google.

Nothing to do with two sims/phone numbers.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Puzzlegal:
Comments like this worry me. Is the reception also poor on Sprint (the carrier I use.)?

I am itching for a new phone, and am mostly looking at this and the HTC One. But that has an aluminum body that might interfere with reception, and now I hear comments like this.

Any comments, comparisons, advice, would be appreciated.
[Galaxy S 4 General] boe:
Hello,

The PDADB isn't always 100% accurate but here is a comparison of the Verizon S3 vs. the Verizon S4.

Honestly the only important thing I need to find out is if the S4 actually gets better reception on Verizon as the S3 is crappy.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=3533&id2=4240

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I don't know about the S3 but I had Samsung phones on Sprint and they worked fine as phones (although data speeds sucked which I think is Sprint in general in LA). I can say of the two Verizon Samsung phones I've had both had dreadful phone reception. I tried switching them out but they all sucked so I don't think I had just 1 or 2 lemons.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I have an SIII and I get two bars at home, because there's no close antennas next to me and the area I live in is quite below ground level. However, the moment I get out of here, I get full reception anywhere else in the city. I've been through 7 different states in the US, and I never had an issue with the reception.
[Galaxy S 4 General] MUFC17JW:
I really like the design of my S3. Samsung came up with that design to avoid law suit from Apple. If they attempted to change the design Apple might try suing them again. XD
[Galaxy S 4 General] wrick17:
Same Old S3 look

Is there any significant change in the design of the S4?? :confused: Coz it practically looks the same as S3 almost.. :rolleyes: I have hoped it to be a lot better and sleek.. Guys do u agree??
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
Check out Q-Sim or MagicSim

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34602273
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
Yes totally, I was hoping for the Weed design but... no.:(
[Galaxy S 4 General] browy:
I've expected it to be able to make me sandwiches and walk my dog, but man, what a disappointment.
[Galaxy S 4 General] itsmemuffins:
Practically the same?

Are you people mad?

It has been improved upon the s3 in every conceivable way.
[Galaxy S 4 General] HueMann:
Uhh.... Exynos octa! 2GB ram! 5" full HD 441ppi display!! 2300mAh battery!!! And still slightly smaller than GS3!!!!

All that has got me thinking about upgrading. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] leppo:
I'm actually really pleased by what they've done with the S4, but I'm waiting to see what happens with the Note 3. Fingers crossed that they'll put the Snapdragon 800 in the NA version.
[Galaxy S 4 General] MohJee:
It's 2600mah not 2300mah :o
[Galaxy S 4 General] biff6789:
LOL at this thread

The S4 went from dual-core to quad-core, upgrades to a full 1080p display with 441 ppi (take THAT, retina display), DDR3 RAM, hexa band LTE, 13 MP camera, wifi ac, bluetooth 4.0, and IR blaster for remote control functionality, and wireless charging (yes, it has it, Engadget demo'd it).

Not to mention a new screen technology that actually responds to your touches without you even having to touch it, improved eye functions, a built-in voice translator, dual camera recording, and even a freaking camera mode that automatically scrubs out people who photobomb your pictures.

So to the OP I ask: Please name me a phone that has similar features and also has better hardware specs in all categories
[Galaxy S 4 General] HueMann:
Yes. 2600mAh! My mistake.

But the European/Asian GS4 will be sporting an 8-core processor.

Good to be in Sweden! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] daxecutioner24:
I still think they released it too early, if you come from any other device than the s3 than its a huge huge improvement. Quad cores, Octa cores I still believe are not necessary on android what you need all that for? Going to the browser then text messaging?. Now to the screen Ppi most people could care less about that, as far as full HD is there a real difference between 720 and 1080 on phones? Because there really isn't on TV. All the camera stuff don't matter if you don't voice chat, and the air wave thing yes it's a gimmick it's just easier to use hand on the phone. Same thing with the video pausing it's not that serious you can look away to grap your juice doesn't mean you want it paused lol. Overall it's a minimal upgrade but what people expect? Kinda hard to notch and create value like the s3 did last year. If you have a s3 definitely not worth that "Premium" value your paying for a phone that's again inferior to the international market. The galaxy line has been very different each iteration unlike Iphones starting from the s1 so it's only right they kinda hit a bump, the s5 is gonna be next generation
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I just have one question, for those who are disappointed/unsatisfied/saying the S4 is S3S, what were you expecting from Samsung that it didn't give you. Or in other words, what disappointed you in the S4?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
HTC One.

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Just one thing, design.

I have no grudges against performance and features. JUST DESIGN.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I personally like the design, especially the new square pattern on the back cover and front bezels and borders.

And come on, did Apple any design unpatented? If HTC and LG were as successful as Samsung, it would sue them as well. I personally find LG Optimus phone very similar to the Galaxy SII, which Apple sued Samsung for it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
Nope. Inferior software, no USB 3.0, no wireless charging, no floating touch, smaller battery, no removable battery, no microSD slot, thicker and bulkier despite smaller screen, disappointing camera, disappointing battery life, dimmer screen with lower contrast and worse reflectivity that has poorer color accuracy than their last generation device...how is that better hardware specs at all?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Galactus:
This. Seriously, people should throw out some specs of what they expected the phone would come with. If design is the "ONLY" reason people can come up with, they are deluded
[Galaxy S 4 General] Xelstyle:
I'm sure HTC One fans could built an almostly extensive list as to why the One > S4 but that's a different topic.

For the people similar to the OP who weren't impressed with the changes from the S3 to the S4? It's been one[/] freakin' year.
[Galaxy S 4 General] brizey:
Design? It's not a freaking purse. It's a phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
Yeah, I have an awesome blue case on mine with a captain America shield decal on it. Most people put a case on their phone, it's not like a lot of these people complaining will even see their phone naked.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Echelonex:
This is why i am dissapointed in Samsung S4...

http://youtu.be/p5YPaBkhKZI

Everything in this video is totaly possible and i think that design is far more superior than the real one...Samsung S4 would be IPhone killer if it was like this... Now, Samsung just did what Apple is doing...
[Galaxy S 4 General] vampyren:
totally agree, i dont get it what people expect from something that is just made of screen on one side :)

We all knew samsung would not go full unibody and i'm glad they did not do that, i love to have SD and be able to change the backcover when it gets scratched. They did upgrade so many other things but people are stuck in their little bubble with full aluminum thing. I have iPhone5 too but honestly i prefer my S3, its feels great in the hand, and S4 has even better build quality.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Echelonex:
"If it aint broke, dont fix it"... Thats what apple did and look what is happening with it now... Samsung did with S4 what Apple is doing... but only when it comes to design wich is the only thing which bothers me... they did awesome job with the rest! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Galactus:
Virtual projected keyboard.......really.....haha
[Galaxy S 4 General] nasty159:
Why are you laughing? It is just a laser keyboard. You can already buy those right now. So yeah it is possible.

Anyway the S4 was a disappointment to me (having an S3) so I bought the One.

Living in Australia we information that we will be getting the LTE version only with the Qualcomm S600 inside. HTC One and S4 are almost equal in performance when it comes to devices in Australia.

Futhermore all those videos with the Octa show how crappy and laggy the UI is. All the features Samsung have announced are bloody useless and I can assure you all that no one will use any of it in day to day use. If you look on the first hands on videos, they hardly work. Pure gimmicks.

Samsung have really disappointed me this time. They should have created a nicer and better design, and released a WORLD phone with the Exynos 5 Octa in every single S4 with LTE. Why they are releasing 3G Exynos 5 and LTE S600 is beyond me, they're so stupid. Because they have no idea how to get Qualcomms LTE chip working with Exynos. Well they should have announced in June this year and had a phone that has everything from the get go.
[Galaxy S 4 General] awesomedeals88:
Battery only 2600mah??? Huge disappointment. Lg Optimus G Pro 3140mah.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Galactus:
I am laughing because the chance of this being included with any phone is highly unlikely. Also, the videos of the S4 at the moment are pre-production models. How can one judge the performance of a phone that isn't going to be on the market for roughly a month and a half? Come late April/May, if it still lags like hell then all the cussing in the world is fine. Until then, people need to calm down.

Yes, it is a shame that Samsung could not fit a larger battery inside of a much smaller device than the Lg. Shocking :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] nasty159:
Well it is the dock itself that is projecting the laser keyboard, not the phone. It would probably be a cheap implementation for any manufacturer.

Yes I agree with you about the pre-production models. However I still think while the S4 (with the Exynos 5) is changing between the A7 Quad core and the A15 cluster Quad Core you are always going to have that little big of lag. That is what I think we are seeing. Who knows though.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Galactus:
I doubt its the switching between the different cores. More than likely its just Touchwiz being unoptimised as per usual. The S3 is powerful enough, yet the lags I see are the lags I see in the same places as the S4. Gallery is crap and laggy as is the horrible delay of the dialer etc. AOSP S3 roms look smoother than the S4 demo's. Andreilux was right when he said Samsung's software optimisations leave A LOT to be desired. I am sceptical of everything regarding the S4. Do I want one? yes but until the reviews are out and the early adopters do some "Beta" testing for me I shall be reserving judgement. HTC One is a no go for me, the camera is good but those 4 ultrapixels can only go so far and the lack of a sd card slot or removable battery seals the deal. Hopefully the X Phone will show its face at Google I/O
[Galaxy S 4 General] hello2ew:
So many people are disappointed which I am really confused about. Its hardware. Its the build MATERIAL. Everyone calls it cheap plastic when they have no idea what it actually is. Agreed, Samsung made it LOOK like cheap plastic since it is so glossy, but its actually the same polycarbonate found in the HTC One X which so many applauded it for its build quality. So in this case, they can't blame the material anymore. Secondly, its the design. People are complaining that the design looks similar to the Galaxy S3, which in my opinion, yeah, its true. But tell me, what else could Samsung do about its curves around the phone with Apple trying to look for any part of its producst so they can sue Samsung? Look at all the concepts, they are rectangular and obviously Apple will sue Samsung if they adopted that design language. Alright maybe one or two can pass. But as for all mobile companies, if your product has a brand name such as "Galaxy", they wouldn't want to suddenly alter the design of the devices or else it would confuse the consumers on whether it is really a Galaxy phone or not. They must have this certain design sgnature whereby when someone looks at it, they immediately recognise it as a Samsung Galaxy. Tell Apple to stop all its crap and if it listens, Samsung will definitely take the opportunity and come up with whole lot new designs for their next Galaxy. And many people hoped the phone to be made out of aluminium like the HTC One and iPhone 5. But c'mon guys, if you think about. 90% of all aluminium phones had quality issues with it. iPhone 5 back was easily scratched, HTC One S suffered from peeling or something, Samsung Wave suffered from discolouration. And it also takes a long time for for a manufacturer to manufacture aluminium phones, which may lead to delays which the HTC One is suffering from right now.. No mobile phone company would want to keep its consumers waiting and break their promised dateline. Nobody should be complaining about software, since Samsung took effort to give its consumers the latest Android firmware version, 4.2.2. And all these 'gimmicks' you think Samsung have introduced, try it out yourself, before you assume anything.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
have you heard of manufacturing constraints? what about heating problem if the phone didn't have enough space to breathe itself. even the iphone, which has 1 processor and less ram is not as thin as the device in the video.

you people ask for things impossible to create.

and for gods sake, that virtual keyboard, i see it in every new device videos. there was an pre-iphone 5 video that included this keyboard.

and btw, the whole design of the device is not so different than the current S4, and if it was the real design, people would still cry and whine about it
[Galaxy S 4 General] Souler19:
i agree, it seems like a minor upgrade. For those of us still on a sgs2 thought it will be a significant improvement.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rushco:
The iPhone and HTC and Window and BlackBerry fanbois come here to stir up **** and moan all over the internet. As the saying goes, "Don't feed the trolls."

And most people upgrading to this phone has a phone that is 2-3 years old. The S4 lookes 2-4 times better then their current phone I bet.

The stuff people complain about is so pointless too. That means it's going to a be a homerun for Samsung.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iampun33t:
Touche my friend..!!! What was disappointing to me was:

1. Forget the 2600 mAh battery, I wanted Iron Man Arc Reactor Power Core.

2. Forget S Voice Drive, I wanted Jarvis.

3. No Air or Gesture Controls, I wanted Thought Control.

4. Most of All, I was thoroughly disappointed by the fact that why couldn't the phone turn into a Iron Man Suit.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Trbore:
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totally agree
[Galaxy S 4 General] n1ggyn1ce:
Man, Samsung is gonna sell a boatload of S4's at Walmart.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Codrea:
I am s2 user and find samsung's phone are **** especially in software development which is important.

Go to hell samsul
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
I've seen a few people try, but all they end up doing is talking about plastic and the 'inherent problems' with AMOLED or PenTile.