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[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I get more with data on 24/7.

Ended up with 6 and 17% left. When on Wi-Fi I usually go for around 7 +
[One (M7) General] crixley:
So what's your secret? lol

I would love some battery life like that
[One (M7) General] Magpir:
Can u tell us yr setup in detail
[One (M7) General] belloni:
What's your rom and kernel?
[One (M7) General] yvibes:
+ 1
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
[MENTION=4657791]crixley[/MENTION] there's no secret [MENTION=4160045]Magpir[/MENTION] sure [MENTION=5301084]belloni[/MENTION] I pretty much switch all the time between roms , mainly viper , renovate and I'm mostly @ insertcoin

Anyway my setup for every Rom :

During installation I remove all I don't need within aroma that is offered after that I boot into Rom quick setup , mainly just accounts then back to recovery and flashing Rom cleaner ( tho I'm not using default script , I've edited it / added gazillion more apps to get removed ) so anyway roms by default have around 220 apps preinstalled ( full stock probably more ) when I'm done with removing all the crap I don't need I have 122 average ) so I pretty much delete around 50/70% of the rom so you can call any Rom I use light version of the actual Rom lol.

After that I install / flash gazillion mods and Xposed stuff after all the flashing is done I odex the rom ( odex speeds up the rom and uses less battery , Google why )

Then I finally set up my Rom , discharge it for about 15/20% meanwhile and then charge it to full and after that I'm getting pretty much all the time 6/7 hrs screen time , with gaming asphalt for around 1/2 hrs I'm @ 5hrs average. I use all the syncs there is ..and average brightness when I'm getting 6/7 hrs is 30/50% when outside and phone all the time on data and brightness [MENTION=1412615]100%[/MENTION] average I get is 5:30/6. I use on 4.3 stock kernel since it gives unmatched deep sleep ( will post pic bellow ) and it's smoother then any other 4.3 kernel since we don't have the source yet so...stock is must fir + the new screen calibration is there. When I'm home I use all the time power saver mainly to cap the cpu @ 1.1 since on stock I can't get freqs to stick and there's no need for more even when gaming ( tho make sure gpu stays at 400 ) that's pretty much it. Oh also I have zero wakelocks.

Here 1 more + the one with deep sleep

Look how much awake % ( wakelocks ) I have

This is when on WiFi.

A tip for those who use pretty much all the time data :

Use power saver and enable in settings "sleep mode" also if brightness outside from battery saver is low for you disable in power saver "display"

@ others I also suggest power saver , there's really no need @ all for 1.7 , besides if any of you ever monitored how our cpu performs you'll see that 1.7 is pretty much used only when needed to load heavy stuff and 1.7 could be faster for about 0.25 sec from 1.7 so not worth it + 1.7 will definitely heat up phone faster then 1.1 and due to battery being hot/warm it'll use even more power.

If you guys want I could also type why are wakelocks so important for the battery life (screen time ) and not only deep sleep.
[One (M7) General] belloni:
Thank you for that, i've had a quick look through your guide also.

What Kernal do you recommend? I see you highly recommend SmartMax governor, but the only one I can find with that is TeamSeven?
[One (M7) General] crixley:
Still you're the only person getting battery life like this, you're getting more than many people get with their note 2s

I don't understand at all.
[One (M7) General] belloni:
Thanks so far with all the help, it's much appreciated!

Regarding ODEX etc, there's an app called "Deodex Me", it says it gets rid of any framework modifications, the only one I have that I know of is Greenified Donation? Is that what this is reffering too? Please correct me if wrong, then I can go ahead and Odex my ROM :)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Don't worry about that , odex pretty much odexes system apps etc not your apps , anyway it mainly affects possibility to flash themes etc , if you're on 4.3 you can get odex script from insertcoin 1st page , there's also for 4.22 , after odex is done bootup it'll most likely bootloop then hard reboot , after booting there's a good chance for your system to lagg like hell, let it be like that for few mins then reboot , it should be fine after that.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
Your info about samoled is completely incorrect..

It uses more to display white, but it does not use more for "any other color"

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Generally amoled is more power efficient than LCD
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Well I did say I'm not sure about other colors , but how can it be more power efficient , if you're having amoled display you'll need 2x more power if using white background while for ips will take same as for any other colors , amoled doesn't use 2x more only for white it uses 2x more pretty much for any color that is close to white , by all the tests I've done comparing with amoled devices all I've seen was they use less on black in every other color they used pretty much the same , or more then ips , I've compared battery drain vs s4 as well the only color where it used less was black , every other ( bright color ) used more , besides check what battery life are s4 uses reporting , pretty much none of them has better battery then I do , average is 4/5 hrs and they have 300 mah larger battery and only 0.2 inches bigger screen. So if anything they should get similar battery life to mine not less.

Besides most of the time we're on bright colors so how is amoled battery savy ? Didn't you read that our display set on same max brightness as amoled will use less power then slcd ips screen ?
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I'm an electrical engineer and I can assure you, that is not how it works

LCD displays are only more efficient at full brightness as compared to AMOLED. AMOLED screens are more efficient all around, just not when the brightness is cranked up.

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I wanted to add too, you can't take your experience as typical.

Look around... Most people are getting 3 to 4 hours screen on time.

Most note 2 users are getting 8 to ten.

Lower resolution, but also much larger screen.

Battery is 700maH larger on the note 2, but gets double the battery life for must users
[One (M7) General] thebest:
Not everyone's battery life is caused by wakelocks.... This is on stock, I'm trying to get warranty to replace it and they're not the easiest to work with.....
[One (M7) General] gianton:
With latest 3.22 firmware/ROM, I noticed that from fully charged at 100% the battery looses 3-5% in a few mins.

Is this a known bug of 3.22 base? Has anyone else noticed that?
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I think it is an issue with the reading (or the charging safety of the battery so you cannot overcharge it)...

I noticed that myself. I find it only happens if I take it off right when it is done charging, if I leave it overnight it doesn't seem to happen.

To be honest, the first few percent typically dies much quickly on almost every phone (or it will seem to stay on 100 for a long time then drop very quickly and stabilize)
[One (M7) General] gianton:
On which ROM/base have you noticed that? I didn't have this on 3.17/3.18 bases or 4.2.2 ROMs, maybe it's a new feature rather than a bug.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I just got the phone, so I used stock bell, and arhd 22

They both react this way. I have had other phones that did pretty much the exact same thing though.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
im pretty much following many phone threads like , xz , xz1 , htc one , htc one x , z ultra , lg g2 , moto x , one mini , butterfly , butterfly s , note 2 , s3 ( used to ) , note 3 , s4 ,so i pretty much know everything whats going with these devices and im ensuring you MOST of the ppl are not getting 8 to 10 with note 2 , i've been living with my cousin for the summer so we've spent good 3 months together , he also happen to have note 2 and trust me those who get 8-10 are getting it by reading books nothing else really while using dim screen settings , my cousins usage was: viber ... viber ... viber .. and again viber , he usualy types a msg to his GF then waits for her to send him back a message , hes battery life was reaching 6/6:30 hrs TOPS with that usage and 50% screen brightness or our 25%, i was reaching the same with , fb chat, sms chat , viber chat, xda , browsing , youtube , music , syncs on all the time for everything i got. how much do you think i could get with his usage ? 10 + im betting.

ppl who say note has better battery life are wrong , average non techy consumer will for sure believe that .. i would anyway , but normal person with a life uses their phone pretty much all the time outside , considering note 2 max is ours 70-75% and reaches 4:30 tops with that we would have gone for about 5:30 , of course this applys to the phone that doesn't have gazilion wakelocks. like i wrote earlier i've done battery tests with note 2 and it wasn't batter , but then again i have none wakelocks compared to many that does. SO in general i do agree note 2 has better battery life but not when you know whats going on with your phone.

As for amoled vs LCD i realize and know amoled does save more power on paper but in real usage does it ? Ask your self this for example , since we all know once again it saves power on black and doesn't on other colors is it really more power efficiant or even better tech ?

take for example S4 , the system itself is white so no savings there , pretty much any app you get uses white or light background , facebook uses light colors , blue / white / twitter the same , browser , sms , pretty much everything is white , i dont see any savings here .. do you ? we should probably also mention that amoled screens are wearing off .. also has smudges ... it's dim , if used @ max brightness will wear off much faster .. white is bluish , colors are way unrealistic , the ONLY good thing that AMOLED has is only the BLACK color nothing else, why are we even comparing amoled vs SLCD , it doesn't come close in : max brightness , sunlight visibility , angles , color reproduction , doesn't even have real white , wears off .. and lastly the only reason why samsung devices are in top regarding the battery life on techy sites reviews is because they can't be as bright as IPS , TFT .. hell any other screen technology ... im done with amoled vs ips comparing , no offense mate im just being realistic.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I'm going by fact, you're going by subjective experience.

"doesn't come close in : max brightness , sunlight visibility , angles , color reproduction , doesn't even have real white , wears off"

What?? Viewing angles better on lcd? LOL you just demonstrated you have no idea what you're talking about.

There are colour modes on newer samsungs, and they actually end up beating lcds

Don't believe me? Here:

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-6452_7-57587774/screens-test-htc-one-vs-samsung-galaxy-s4/

You find me some evidence of everything you're saying. Aside from "maximum brightness"

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-912p3.php

Note 2 beats out htc one on white at half brightness.

Note 2 gets better battery than htc one, it isn't even an argument.

I get 8 hours at least over two days, and not "reading books dim".

Perceived brightness is actually brighter for oled, just not when it comes to outdoors.Even then tbh, I find my note just as good as this phone for legibility.

I can keep my phone on 30% and it seems just as bright as this one on 50%.

You're talking about theoretical burn in or the screen degrading after a few years? That's laughable. You plan on keeping your phone for 5 years?

Average non techy consumers? I am an electrical engineer lol

I would say you fit that bill perfectly with your magical phone that gets 10 hours screen on time to everyone elses 3-4. I would say you're full of **** personally

Your idea of "realism" is a joke. Notice you are the only person getting battery life like that.

Realism = actually facts, not falsified ones or "my cousin's sisters mother said this"

On an lcd display if ten pixels change, the display state of the entire screen changes. On an amoled, since the pixels are their own light source, only those pixels do

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Keep in mind that is comparing it to the s4..

The note 2 performs better in screen tests, so therefore if the s4 is considered better, that means..... You know how that ends I'm sure
[One (M7) General] belloni:
So I downloaded the APK, moved it to my System/App folder, run the app, but it just sits on "Rebooting to System Directory", so i rebooted the phone after 5 minutes, and then went back to system app folders, and noticed all my main apps, facebook etc still had their .APK and then a .ODEX also, is this correct? I'm just a bit worried as it hangs on that part?!
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
wow you're full of bias lol ,

theres no argument about this IT"S THE FACT , every and i mean EVERY single review you read will prove ONE indeed has THE BEST VIEWING angles. Please find me ONE where it says ANY amoled device has better viewing angles then any SLCD on HTC phone , just 1.

Seriously are you even aware that CNET is paid A LOT by samsung like MANY other review sites. I mean just look at their ADDS , ALL SAMSUNG. Of course they're gonna praise samsung ... As for screen modes i know about them , played with them as well , remember this WHATEVER mode you put you will NEVER have white like SLCD period. You can even find gazilion youtube videos where are screens compared you'll see.

Note 2 beats One @ white at half brightness ? Seriosly lol ? Why don't you demonstrate since you have both devices, but hey 1st you need to have white on amoled to compare white , anyway just put both on 50% and make a photo i'd love to see this.

That's great for you , can you back that up ? If you gonna atempt to back that up do me a favour make the folowing screenshots , make a screen shots from gsam battery , make a screenshot from screen , make a screen shot from app usage. I'd love to see your 8 hrs with normal usage in 2 days which im betting it wont happen.

It has a bigger screen ... of course it'll look brighter , put one on 80% and note 2 @ 80% tell me which is brighter lol.

i'm not talking about burn in 5 years i'm talking about burns after few months , you'd know that if you use your phone outside with 100% brightness all the time, what about smudges that most of the users got with s4's screen out of box ?

I never said i'm getting 10hrs screen ... i said i could if i've read books on it .. here the screen shot from the guy who actually did it.

Anyway this arguments a side i actually like amoled screen , it's just stupid what you wrote , SLCD3 is many times proven to be the best screen right now that exists , i NEVER ever saw an article where amoled was praised to be the best screen , i'd like to see that joke.

Simple facts you may or may not accept i honestly don't care are slcd vs amoled:

- Sunlight visibility is miles ahead of amoled here a gift for you regarding this.

[YOUTUBE]l4pvyN21jDw[/YOUTUBE]

- White's are actually white

- It actually shows more realistic colors compared to cartoonish colors

- It's brighter

- it doesn't wear off

- it has better angles ( altough some defected displays could show otherwise but the perfect one sure wont )

- The only difference in black vs amoled will be visible at dark while in the sun they'll pretty much look the same

here few screenshots for you as a gift from me as well :) , i'll attach , sunlight visibility , white color , and 45 degree angle.

I rest my case !
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
which app exactly ? and if you see .ODEX next to app then that is odexed apps.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I'm full of bias??

You didn't even read anything I posted, the one thing I did you claim is false even though they actually scientifically measured the screen. (and then ask me to show you where it is praised lol)

The gsmarena showed the white levels at 50% brightness, but once again you ignore that.

Show you one?? Google it yourself. Samoled has 180 degree viewing angles, while slcd (or ips) has 160.

Here's one that also talks about power consumption:

http://www.mobofreaks.com/amoled-vs-lcd/

"RGB AMOLED displays (Galaxy Note 2), when adjusted with display modes, can be brought to display sRGB color gamut and 6500K color temperatures. PenTile AMOLED displays (Galaxy S4) have "Movie Mode" as well, but have an oversaturated minimum of 122% sRGB due to its reliance on green subpixels for luminance, oversaturating the display. Whether the Note 3 (which is PenTile) will have this problem is not known yet."

Burn in occurs if you leave a static image on your phone for hours. Do you plan on doing that?

I don't even knwo why I'm bothering. You're obviously a moron with his head in the sand
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
thx for this info

And no i didn't ignore anything you wrote , i've just skipped stupid things you wrote , as for ignoring you ignored to provide any type of screenshot claiming you get easily 2days with 8 hrs screen time, as i said i'd love to see those screenshots the way i described , let me remind you , gsam battery screenshot when you get into it , screenshot from screen , and screenshot from app usage.

as for power consumption as i said YOU ARE MOST OF THE TIMES ON WHITE , are you BLIND , how is that BATTERY SAVING ? ... you're like a goldfish you might read what i write but you forget it after 3 seconds.

You also talk about mesurements , i don't believe all mesurements i belive the THIGNS I SEE not the things what someone wrote , you don't need mesurements to see that amoled has blueish / greenish WHITE , you have EYES , you don't need mesurment to see which display is brighter nor better in sunlight , if we're to belive everything that is wrote on paper we would belive S4 with 1.9cpu and 450gpu by default vs 1.7 on the one and 400GpU is actually faster in real world usage while one is proven to be exactly 3 times faster in EVERY OPERATION .....

besides no need to insult me , we're sharing opinion , don't act like a kid when someone shares an opinion you don't like ..
[One (M7) General] crixley:
Anyhow I digress, I like both for different reasons.

I don't like one and hate the other, or vice versa.

Hence why I own one of each. The screen on the one is amazing, to say the least.

The screen on my lg optimus g was also fantastic. My xperia z on the other hand was one of the worst screens I have ever seen.

We got sidetracked, our original topic was power consumption.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yeah , glad this has ended , anyway like i've said earlier i like amoled screen for movies and games when default colors are reduced a bit , forgot which mode was that , dynamic or movie not sure what i used on note , anyway i prefere more amoled screen on aosp then SLCD and for movies. contrast is very high which i like and lower quality look like HD/FHD while on SLCD difference is very visible between qHD and FHD.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
So basically, you don't believe science, but subjectivity?

How are you mostly on white? Wouldn't that depend on your usage? Even what sites you visit...

I'm not forgetting, you just aren't saying anything that is really worth rebutting.

I haven't been using my note for a while but here are the only screenshots I have. I'm including a few, taken pretty far apart and with different use.

Where is it proven the one beats s4, let alone by three times hahaha You're just making up figures.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-912p5.php

there you go.. once again the proof is in the pudding.

Here are the only screenshots I have of battery life. Screen on time says enough, I lost nothing in standby. Even using poweramp, which I do a LOT at work (3 hours approximately), barely drains the battery at all.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I agree with you they both have their good points.

My big choice is going to be when the htc one max comes out, whether to get that or the note 3.

It really depends right now, if it is aluminum unibody I feel like it would weigh a ton!

Anyhow, this was a dumb argument.

I see we do share some of the same opinions.
[One (M7) General] crixley:
Yeah mostly just Facebook, inatagram, Twitter, a lot of browsing, and a lot of music. I text very frequently too

I check my email pretty frequently as well.

I really wish I could get the battery life you do. I'm lucky to get 5 hours

I find this phone can get pretty hot as well actually when connected to hspa or lte or when gaming.

Nevertheless, the build quality is absolutely stunning. I feel like I'm holding a work of art in my hands
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
At least you have LTE network lol , my country still doesn't support it Q.Q , anyway it gets a bit warm on 4g when @ max brightness for me and in games i'm never crossing 42c with one, i usually play for 1hr then i take a break for smoke few mins .. 5 i guess then it's back @ 31/29 then i play again for 1hr or so.

Anyway since s800 has modem implemented into chip i hope our battery will be better just because of that and less heat hopefully , either way Max shouldn't have heating issues since it's huge and aluminium ^.^ lets just all hope HTC won't mess things up with s4pro or s600 that some rumors indicate at :fingercrossed:
[One (M7) General] belloni:
I've got Auto Lux app, but in wakelock detector, this wakes my phone the most? Shall I just delete it and set a standard brightness instead?
[One (M7) General] MoshuXXL:
I've experimented for a week or two with the Auto Lux app. From my experience with it there wasn't much difference in battery life. Now when outside isn't to much sun I check the option to dim the screen in Power Saver.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Well if you see wakelock from it could be possible , I never really used lux , I find it useless same as the apps like " juice defender " etc , those apps usually drain battery even more , besides for the very sunny day and direct sun on the screen I find 75/80% enough ( display unchecked at power saver ) I also most of the time just set brightness manually , it's not hard with Xposed mod and brightness slider like what samsung / Xperia devices have , all it takes 1 notification pull down and slide @ what is good for you. I even have weird idea that auto brightness could actually drain battery , after all the sensor must be on all the time with manual settings it doesn't :P , anyway you could try 1 day without lux app.

Btw if I'm right all what lux does is limits max brightness , you can edit some files in sys and have same results , there's somewhere a file that has the max brightness value , should be 255 80% would be around 210 or so.
[One (M7) General] hth2813:
Since 4.2 and 4.3, i have never got 5 hours on screen like 4.1
[One (M7) General] crixley:
I can pretty much watch my battery draining lol
[One (M7) General] Magpir:
i am trying out thsis settings

with the donate version of trickster mod

Mpdecision off

Ondemand governor

Sampling rate - 100000

Sync Freq - 918000

Up threshold - 98

Down Differential - 20

Up threshold any cpu load - 95

Up threshold multi core - 98

Optimal freq - 918000

Scheduler - row

Gpu Max - 320
[One (M7) General] Freshtojeff:
I just upgraded to the latest firmware as well and noticed this right when I pulled it off the charger. I swear i read 100% and check a text and replied to notice it was at 97% lol. Hopefully it's just a bug.
[One (M7) General] gianton:
Thanks for confirmation, looks like it's a bug or new feature? BTW I left the phone on charger overnight and this fast loss didn't happen.
[One (M7) General] pewpewbangbang:
Let the battery adjust, I don't have that problem although I may have had it the first use.

In general battery life is good for me on 3.22 I can hit 5 hours screen time with mixed Wi-Fi and lte usage.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
You have 1hr 46 of wakelocks , that's very bad.