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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
I had the privilege of talking to a tier 1 tech rep with enough knowledge to be tier 2... She said that she likes the One more - but - she said she has had a lot of customer complaints. She said the S4 was overloaded, which we all have heard, and she actually said if we have S3s and no Lte, wait. She couldn't give me details but she said that Snapdragon 800 devices are coming by 3Q

As far as us being upgraded, she said what the official company stance is that we get KLP and then the s3 is EOL. She confirmed that Samsung has come to them with two 4.1.2 offerings which were rejected and on the table right now is a 4.2.2 that may be dropped in preference to get 4.3 or KLP - she noted that the 4.3 offering is just an extension of Jelly bean and that it is currently being reviewed for a release, however, they won't make a new release before IO

Sent from my SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sfsilicon:
Upgrade strategies for Long time (grandfathered) TMO customers

I'm a long time TMO customer and still confused about the impact of the new "uncarrier" strategy on how I buy devices. I get the point that TMO's new plans are cheaper in the long run for new customers since they don't subsidize phones anymore. My problem is that I am already on a really cheap grandfathered plan and haven't had or seen any incentive to change. Basically MyFaves for Families w/ 2 lines and Unlimited Data plus 400 text messages for $110/m before taxes & fees. In the past the subsidized phones allowed me to get a latest phones (e.g. SGS3) for ~$150. With the new plans I don't see any savings in switching and I'm losing out on ~$500 ($650 phone cost - $150 paid w/ 2 year contract) subsidy on new phones.

Does anyone have any suggestions or experience on discounts TMO provides for long time customers? Do they have discounted HW for long time customers or retention incentives for those planning to switch? I heard that resellers (e.g. Wirefly) are still treated differently and can't offer the new plans. Is there a way to do a 2 year upgrade with them and get a subsidized TMO phone?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] kingston73:
I guess it really depends on what your current plan is, for me switching from the 2 year contract plan I had (2 lines, 2gbs data, unlimited text, 1000 mins for $135) to the "uncarrier" plan (2 lines, unlimited mins and texts, 2.5 gbs data) is saving me about $30 a month. My wife upgraded to the iphone 5 which only cost her $99 up front. We have to pay the phone off but have 2 years with zero interest to pay it. I wasn't sure how the billing would work but if you go this route you have your bill split into 2 parts, the monthly service bill and the Equipment Installment Plan as a separate bill. With the EIP you can pay as much as you want each month so it doesn't have to take the full 2 years to pay off, it's basically a zero down loan. So in the end for us I'm still paying a little less per month and can upgrade phones whenever I want, BUT I don't get the carrier subsidy discount now.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sfsilicon:
I think I have a 5GB unlimited, I've gotten close to 5GB of data without any slow down. I'm not sure, since before the new plans they used to put xGB and 2G speeds after on my account page, now it just states unlimited. I'm guessing with the new plans since I'm not on the 2GB plan I must be on unlimited. I guess I could try downloading more than 2.5GB to check it out. ;)

I did the math below and I'd be paying $720 more over 2 years to stay on my unlimited data and get a new phone plus ongoing $10/m. The only way to save would be to get the 500MB plan and save $240, but that is not enough data for me.

Looks like I will be sticking with my current plan to keep the unlimited data. I'm paying $480 more to get a new phone over 2 years compared to the old TMO plans. Sigh!!!

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COMPARISON OVER 2 YEARS

ME OLD TMO vs Unlimited Data -> $2790 - $3510 = -$720 (after 2 years $10/m more)

ME OLD TMO vs 2GB Data -> $2790 - $3030 = -$240 (after 2 years $0/m more)

ME OLD TMO vs 500MB Data -> $2790 - $2550 = $240 savings (after 2 years $20/m less)

ME OLD TMO vs ME UNCARRIER -> $2790 - $3270 = -$480 (after 2 years $0/m more)

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Examples assumes buying a new SGS4. There is no difference between paying the $630 phone price up front or the $150 down + 20 x24 payments.

ME OLD TMO (2 lines, 2x unlimited data grandfathered)

$110 per month for 2 years

$150 subsidized phone price

$0 x24 monthly payments

Total over 2 years = $2790

Note: Since OLD TMO plan w/ Upgrade subsidy is not available, I save the $150 from the subsidized phone price, but have to pay the full $630 phone price upfront.

ME UNCARRIER (2 lines, 2x unlimited data grandfathered)

$110 per month for 2 years

$630 subsidized phone price

$0 x24 monthly payments

Total over 2 years = $3270

UNCARRIER (2 lines, 2x unlimited)

$120 per month for 2 years

$150 subsidized phone price

$20 x24 monthly payments

Total over 2 years = $3510

UNCARRIER (2 lines, 2x 2GB)

$100 per month for 2 years

$150 subsidized phone price

$20 x24 monthly payments

Total over 2 years = $3030

UNCARRIER (2 lines, 2x 500MB)

$80 per month for 2 years

$150 subsidized phone price

$20 x24 monthly payments

Total over 2 years = $2550
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yungeva:
I say stick with youf plan
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Any buddy feeling the confirmed $649 SGS IV Google Experience phone? Its the s4 but with AOSP on it. I know a few that will jump on it,

T-Mobile SGS III
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] TheLastSidekick:
Yeah our phones are still very powerful. I'd be even hard pressed to say get the S5. However, due to seeing a Galaxy s4 with AOSP I'd probably upgrade anyways. Sounds too good to be true.

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Lol sorry totally didn't even see your post. But I guess I proved your point! :P
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
No need for apologies. I'm hesitant about it, even though it comes out on my bday, I just don't see the point. I can use a couple certain builds that I have of my own that run AOSP great and just what I need on my s3 and it flies. Native AOSP does sound great though, just not worth $650. I know a few devs that are eye balling it. That part makes me think twice, we'll see.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] elesbb:
I want the S4! Somebody buy it for me please!? :D I'll be your friend ^-^
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] dyavrom:
yeah stick with it
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Kevin Goot:
If only existed such a person. Lolol
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] elesbb:
Haha i wish :(
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] perpetualnoob:
Htl W100 and Note 2

I have a N2 as main phone just bought the S3 to play with along with a Htl W100. I also don't see the point to the S4 (money not the issue really) maybe a little. I'm starting to worry I'll never find any roms for the Htl W100 though...

:confused:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] UnholySniper:
Hello people, I have a GS3 an Tab2. And no, Im not trying to get 10 posts to get into development. i already know about most of these roms, just figured I'd sign up.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] scifan:
So, here's a question.. How difficult is it to get an AT&T SIII onto T-Mobile?

Unlock and go? or unlock, flash rom x and go? or ?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sparkie6point0:
Hey guys! My boss has a question!

He's now got an older Blackberry which is on its last legs and needs to get a new phone. His choices are the Galaxy S3 and the iPhone5. However, he wants to get the phone that can easily sync our office Outlook calendar into the phone without any hassles. Which one should he go with?

I told him that I'm on XDA a lot, and I also told him that if anyone can give a straight, honest unbiased answer it's a fellow XDA member (or dev).

Thanks for the help!

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If it were me, I'd unlock and go. That way, if you don't like T-Mo, you can go to someone else.

Besides, it's better than risking a hard brick because of a bad (or dirty) install, bad download, etc. :good:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] scifan:
Reason I was thinking this is I already have T-Mo... was just thinking about moving this onto the account... was just an idea...

I was basically thinking I could leave the baseband as/is and flash a t-mo image on it...

Just an idea...

:fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sparkie6point0:
If you're just going to flash a ROM there are plenty of multi-carrier ROMs available in the development section. If, however, you were thinking about putting the AT&T phone on T-Mo, then you would have to unlock it. If I'm not mistaken, different carriers run on different bandwiths, so I'm not sure if you can just keep the baseband and get away with it. Plus there's the question of the SIM card working.

Either way, if you're going to pursue it, good luck and I hope everything works out for you! :D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] scifan:
Basically, it's a free phone... with a cracked screen - I figure it's worth a try. Though I read earlier that there's some effort to get T-Mo 4G working on it...
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] maxi_v3000gv:
biig tanx
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nviz22:
Well, I just sold my S3. Time to move onto a new phone. Nexus 4, HTC One, Galaxy Note 2, iPhone 5, Lumia 925, Blackberry Z10, or Galaxy S4? Thoughts?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] sparkie6point0:
Depends on what you liked about your S3 and your primary use for it (camera, music, etc.)

Me personally, my primary "thing" is graphics/screen view. How good will a youtube video or TV picture look on that screen? I watch a lot of TV on my phones (I have about 5 TV apps on my phone now, including T-Mo TV and MLB At Bat). I've had the chance to try out a few (but not all) of the phones you listed to see if any of them would outperform my S3 to my satisfaction.

Nexus 4 - haven't tried it out

HTC One - decent graphics, very good sound, but I still wouldn't buy it for anything. No SD card slot and no way to open the battery compartment are major mood killers for me.

Galaxy Note 2 - picture looks exactly like an S2 (which I didn't like). Pass.

Galaxy S4 - IMO the best of the bunch. Only difference between this and an S3 is that it's a bit wider (and it comes with LTE and 4.2.2 already installed) - otherwise, there's not a lot calling out to me from that phone saying "Buy me"!!!

Lumina 925 - haven't tried it out

iPhone - absolutely beautiful picture and sound, but the picture is too small compared with my S3. Besides, I was chained to Apple once - never again. Wayyyyy too proprietory and expensive.

And there's no way in hell I'd try out a BlackBerry. They're on their way out the door anyway.

Again, these are my opinions based on my own criteria.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] klin1344:
If you decide to buy another Android device, I suggest the HTC One, because it has the nicest screen out of the 4 androids. SuperLCD 3 is brighter, sharper, and more accurate than the pentile amoled Note 2 or GS4. It's also better than the Nexus 4 because it's full 1080p HD.

You use the screen of a phone everyday, so it's only right that you buy a phone with a high quality screen.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] marseillesw:
I just traded in my S3 for an HTC One and so far I'm in awe..this thing is blazing fast, no lag, beautiful screen, and loud as hell..I love it and I haven't even rooted it yet!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
So me and [MENTION=5141543]Tunasty[/MENTION] were thinking, why is that aluminum body phones don't have sdcard slots and removable battery trays and such? I mean, I know sleek and unibody is nice and sexy, but I really depend on those two features. Not gonna rely on cloud storage as I don't want to rely on data, and kill battery more by using data when not needed. 32gb should suffice for me as of now, but my music grows daily and apps grow and get larger daily too. I just want to build my own personal phone hardware in and out lol.

The Oppo Find 5 is what I really like style hardware and looks, and definitely software capabilities, but it lacks the things I want really bad. The HTC One Google Edition (Nexus) is exactly what I'm looking for but lacking the removable battery and sdcard storage :(... I mean, can't sdcard slots be built like they have the sim card trays, just a push and pull, and slide back in??? Sounds simple but I don't build phones obviously haha. Just bouncing ideas and ranting out loud.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
From what I understand, Google is starting to push for the removal of SD card slots in favor of cloud storage and larger built-in memory sizes. Supposedly in the name of security and as a way to help curb piracy... although I don't see how having an SD card encourages piracy. I do know that it makes it much harder to hack the bootloader on some phones (remember the goldcard days of HTC phones?) but I think the real reason is so that Google can have all your data on the cloud.

As for the lack of an SD card, 32GB should be more than sufficient for the HTC One (even if only around 24GB is available for use its still better than the 8 you get on the 16GB GS4) - and its among the fastest flash memory around to boot - but I agree with you on preferring SD cards. My reasons are different though - I store downloads and backups on my SD card in case something gets screwed up and I have to restore to out of the box factory settings on my phone to fix it.

I think we will start seeing more and more phones lacking SD card slots though unfortunately.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Ya I remember those days on my G1 lol, and I think it's wrong of them to try and push cloud storage upon users, it's a great option but shouldn't be the only one, reminds of another company lol. I actually make a thread in every phone I own if a the SD slot is available, for people to go out and purchase an external memory card and reader for flashing purposes haha. Ya the piracy thing sounds dumb but believable all at the same time. I wish they would let us build our own phone like some shoe companies let people build and design their own shoe.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
I think Google started the end of SD cards when they collaborated with LG to release a Nexus device with no SD card slot. And if you think about it, Google's privacy policies have been starting to mirror Apple's for awhile now. Add that to the fact that Google has a vested interest in getting our personal data and increasing data usage (since that's their business model) and you've got the fall of the SD card on Android started. Didn't they recently get rid of apps to SD too? I never used it personally but I heard some rumblings about having to have third party apps now.

Apple has gotten away with it since day one, I guess Google wants to follow suit.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Nooooooooo I wish I had a number of theirs to ask these questions but I don't really care enough to wait for someone to talk to or anything lol. I wish they had a poll or something for users to vote on.

T-Mobile SGS III
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
I agree with you but maybe it will finally force NAND prices down and drive capacity up... NAND has been ridiculously priced for far too long.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Tunasty:
Damn I just saw this post today lol but yah bro. That's the type of phone I've been wanting too. I work in retail and sell phones, a lot of customers go for the aluminium phones now days, especially iPhones even though they have no clue what they are getting. All they care about is the look. Oh well hopefully one day, samsung comes up with one of those phones and gets rid of this cheap plastic.

S4 is poppin!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
Damn... guess only Korea is getting the LTE-Advanced S IV... along with an upgraded Snapdragon 800!!!

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/06/19/galaxy-s4-lte-a-shv-e330-user-manual-got-leaked/
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Yeah, I heard about that. It's only the initial release though. They've already got carriers selected to receive it in other parts of the world.

They haven't said who, but I can make a guess as to who won't be getting it! Even though T-Mobile is the only carrier that can support advanced LTE in the U.S.

Unless I heard wrong.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Galaxy MEGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zb5Wp_i8oQo
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I want one!!!!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Some people would find it to be the perfect device. Me not so much, I won't go any bigger then the S4 I hope. Unless forced to of course. That thing is like a joke in the testing lol.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Oh I agree, I wouldn't spend money on it and doubt I could really even go as big as the note2, but I still want em both, just to play with!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
Too big and low specs. I would consider it in the form of a Snapdragon 800 and a 1080p display.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
So I finally convinced Tmo to bill EIP to our account (down payment) - roommate is getting a One, I'm getting an S4. My S3 is starting to really piss me off (non LTE phones are now programmed to prefer PCS which sucks here) and I just couldn't wait for the 800s to hit. I couldn't justify waiting for a marginal performance increase. And the One? Sorry but I need my SD card. And my sig? All of those HTC devices were refirbed at least once.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] LoopDoGG79:
Has anybody got the impression that development for our phone have slowed down to a crawl and all our devs have left us for the S4? :(
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I think quite a few people in general have moved on. As far as development goes though, I don't think.it matters how many we have, it'll be slowing down regardless. There's just not much left to do till the next update drops. Once it does it'll be bustling with activity once again.

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Plus I'd rather the devs focus on one or two projects and make them great, than release a bunch of half baked junk and move on. Several are still actively involved with their roms.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] LoopDoGG79:
Excellent points Doc. No word when we will get a 4.3 AOSP ROM? :D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
No idea on that one!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] EtherealRemnant:
If you were thinking about the HTC One and you think Sense 5 is better than Touchwiz, let's put it this way - I got so pissed at the phone that it almost got thrown. My roommate and I just got our phones yesterday - him a one and me an S4... I love the S4 and the attachments certainly help!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
Still gonna get the HTC One, I have WiFi everywhere I go, and where I don't need a strong connection (most of the time) I use 2g anyway. Plus there was an update for LTE reception that was put out yesterday.

Aren't people tired of touchwiz and Samsung's build "quality"?

Also any thoughts on why people shouldn't get the HTC One? 32gb or, whatever is left after OS on phone, is plenty for me. I have the external chargers for battery when running low. I can't find any other reasons not to get the HTC one and finally get rid of this Plastic "Pebble".
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
I've dropped my s3 once with no case and got a chip in the plastic, bought a new back price for 5$ and haven't don't it since lol. That's 1 year and that's when I was drinking, I don't anymore either so there is that "insurance" haha.

I'm gonna sit on mine for a few weeks before rooting and installing stuff, even though I downloaded a few ROMs and all the tools to root and such and have bookmarked all the steps and wrote them out for myself lol. I haven't reverted my s3 in the year and some months I've had and don't plan to do so for the One either, I usually keep my phones so I don't worry bout selling them off and unrooting for people. I always nandroid the first time, good thing to learn unfortunate for some its the hard way.

Ya storage is no biggie for me, just got an external music player and no movies or if I do its one or two for the road trips or something that I remove when I'm done. The s3 still feels blazing fast to me so anything faster is overkill for me I'm purely going for away from touchwiz and aluminum unibody style and a sexy looking phone. I actually hear people tell me I have an ugly phone haha, that naturally doesn't bother me, but I think its hideous as well since day 1 ( I wanted a phone that could run AOSP almost fluidly and this one was it at the time)

I don't really use the camera very often and the s3 does okay for me so I assume the One should get the trick done for me, I have a fancy Nikon for those times.

I've read about the handshake thing somewhere and it did get me slightly alarmed but I tested at home and put my phone in "4g" and it never moved to any other than it. Between that and when I'm on the road out and about I usually leave my phone on edge for battery purposes anyways, good to know though for sure. I get 23mbps down and 3 up at home and work has WiFi almost all the time now with 50down and 20up so I'm not worried about that.

So far I'm 100% sold on that phone, nothing has made me not want to get it, so hopefully this weekend, if I get the time, I'll be a proud owner. Thanks a bunch for the write up dude, definitely helped me, I saw your threads in the One section and had me worried but the latest update and someone is working on getting the ruu it seems (so far failed I think) has me even more so wanting the phone haha.

Edit: we both have too much time on our hands and type well on our phones it seems haha. I think I did alright.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] UnholySniper:
Weren't you all excited to get the S3? Do you really wanna deal with HTC an all their crap again. Remember the issues dealing with the bootloaders, S-off, dam RUU's.

Come on front facing speakers? Seriously what a gimmick from them, how often are you actually gonna use it? The S3 has all the features any typical person would need to use without useless bells an whistles. Also you feel like dealing with HTC sense all over. Does the phone even come with an sdcard slot?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mt3g:
I was excited to get the s3 for AOSP use. I literally ripped out anything touchwiz possible and still do to this day. "HTC an their crap" like what? I had the mt3g and G1 and liked them briefly owned the g2(didn't want the keyboard after all) and I loved all those devices and never had issues. The S-off doesn't bother as its just a few clicks and if I break the phone, so be it, I was dumb and don't deserve a replacement. RUU is pretty much odin.... What's wrong with that?

I think TouchWiz is childish looking and all its gimmicks are useless and ugly for the most part or barely working. The s3 has more useless "bells and whistles" then any other phone I've seen. I don't use or need any gesture stuff, NFC, best shot, or svoice (largest gimmick ever and it failed). I'm guessing you've never played with it yet either. It feels immaculant in hand and sounds even better. I listen to music a lot and use my phone for speaker calls and such and having something loud and clear sound is gonna be sweet, unlike having a speaker a dime can cover and muffle. I don't need more than 12gb of storage, I don't have games or anything that's needed for other space, plus USB OTG is awesome. Sense is not bad at all anymore, I'm gonna be extremely happy moving over.

Biggest thing is I can bend that phone, and not worry about breaking it. I can gear the s3 crack in places when I do that in fact I'm sure that's where the pressure cracks came from on the side of my phone, and I was only half a$$ing it, I'm sure this phone could snap in half by someone's hands.