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[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nebsif:
+1

They are like the only company to realize that every Chinese ChingChong can poop out Full HD Quad Core phones nowdays, especially phones w/o access to the battery. :rolleyes:.

Good guy Sammy also ports new gimmicks to previous devices, was pleasantly surprised to find out S2 has display modes and little handy things like swipe right to call and swipe left to text in Contacts etc.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RusherDude:
That's not ported... that came with the first S2 rom on 2.3.3.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hell_storm2004:
Plastic so what? We are surrounded by plastic. I dont want a gold plated phone. Just one that has 8 cores for now.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkforce:
"I just don't really feel like dropping a piece of plastic and having the thing shatter into million of pieces. A little unrealistic I know, but really? I don't care if they thing plastic does the best job, it obviously doesn't. It scratches, it's breakable. Sure HTC didn't do the best job of it either, but at least they used something that feels good/amazing in the palm of your hand. "

No question htc one is wonderful phone with superb design but it is heavier, bulkier and dents when dropped. It will "feel good amazing in the palm of your hand" untik you drop it down to the concrete floor and all that will go away with dents. Then you will realize oh shxx i need a case. Now the design will be covered in some case and you will end up with more bulkier, heavier phone. To me, decent case with good design is must and this is why i prefer sg4. Samsung knows it that is why they use plastic despite so many people critized it last year with sg3 but sammy knows most people use case. It seemed like many people hated plastic, but guess what was the hottest android phone last year? Look at the sales figure last year for all makers. Sammy crushed everyone with sg3. Marketing without a good phone cant produce result like that. Even with case on, sg4 will be a lot more lighter, thinner, "feel god amazing in the palm of your hand" than htc one without case. Not to mention, with the weight difference, you can have extra battery and extra sd card if you will and still be lighter lol. Check this drop test video of htc one and read article about how htc one received 1/10 of repair score. Right now with only pictures available for htc one and sg4 for most of country, htc one gets praised for their design. But once they start selling in major market like usa, people will get practical and sales numbers will tell whi takes the crown at the end. All benchmark is pointing sg4 crushig htc one in snapdragon 600, octa is unreachable for htc one.

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-drop-test-179938/

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/28/htc-one-teardown-ifixit-score/
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NPWS:
plastic again?

so what?

it's nice I think :D

all phones has the unique design :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ItsTommyGun:
I have held and played with the S4. There is plastic on the back but the frame is metal.

The S4 feels MUCH more substantial and sturdier than the S3 while still feeling as comfortable and light in your hand as the S3.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] animeware:
I prefer plastic over metal I do like on Samsung Galaxy S4 where it's Metal on the sides that's really neat feature.....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sarcron:
Can I just say for the record that I *hate* the term "premium" and "premium feel"? Every time some tech blogger writes that or people say it in video reviews, it's like nails on chalkboard. It's one of the thousands of phrases that came out of some marketing hellhole, and now it's repeated ad nauseum like church gospel. Consumers and reviewers should be capable of describing and discussing a product without defaulting to regurgitated corporate jargon.

As for the topic, as long as a metal unibody is a barrier to hardware customization, I don't see myself ever supporting it as an industry standard. I don't know why the trend with Android has shifted to "form over function". Was there a council where everyone got together and decided that aluminum was the Universal standard of "form"? People might be tired of plastic, but give us a couple years of purely aluminum phones and people will get sick of that as well. That wouldn't matter so much if it was just a case of public opinion causing a minor cosmetic difference. But when it comes at the cost of an SD card, removable battery, and a removable back plate, it's a cost of convenience, which is the opposite of how the phone market should be trending.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] karoolus:
plastic is good!

shock absorbing, leighter, the design is pretty nice!

i prefer plastic over anything
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
"Premium" is just another way of saying that metal phones feel much nicer than plastic phones. And to the majority of people, they do. Sure, plastic is more durable and lightweight, but from a quality standpoint, metal has the "premium" feel. You can use a thesaurus to substitute whatever adjective you want to use to describe it-- exceptional, superior, quality, etc. But in the end, complaining about the adjective used to describe something is as silly as saying, "This is better because it is." without providing any concrete arguments.

Just because a phone has a unibody construction doesn't mean it can't have an SD card and a removable battery. Both have been successfully implemented into unibody phones previously (HTC Desire S, HD, Salsa, etc.) So your qualm is that there is no removable storage and battery-- not the build material of the phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] johnbhoy89:
I have seen a few different opinions on the side of the phone. Some say metal, some say plastic.

Is there an official answer to this?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sarcron:
The majority as polled by whom? Sure, I've seen plenty of people in these forums say they prefer aluminum feel to plastic, but these are the same forums that prefer AOSP to stock, which is nowhere near the realm of demonstration with the overall population. It's an over used adjective, such that it has lost any of the descriptive power behind it. This is called http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semantic_satiation. When everyone is repeating the same phrase over and over, it comes off as heavily scripted, and eventually it's more of a buzzword than an actual explanation. Using "premium" and "premium feel" is actually exactly like saying "It's better because it is".

That unibody construction you refer to comes at the sacrifice of the perfect design" as so many here describe the HTC One. You can't have the frame embedding the back with the phone and be able to take it off and remove the battery and SD card slot. Something has to give, the two have to be separated in construction, and then you have to refit the antenna so that the metal body doesn't hurt the signal.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
It's not difficult to tell what people enjoy the feel of more. Hold a metal phone in one hand and hold a plastic phone in your other hand. Nobody (except possibly Samsung fanboys, "just because") disputes that an aluminum phone feels great in the hand. Adjectives are descriptive words; as I said, replace "premium" with whatever adjective you enjoy to describe that a metal construction phone feels very nice to hold. You'll be hard pressed to find a review that states otherwise.

There is no such thing as a perfect design. People will always have something to complain about. Always. The bottom line is that just because a phone is metal construction unibody does not mean that it cannot have removable storage and battery.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sarcron:
The dripping irony in calling other people fanboys "just because", while saying that Aluminum feels and is objectively better in aesthetics than polycarbonate "just because". How about leaving it to the marketing team to try and sell people the product as something they want, that is, unless you have a peer reviewed study laying around which supports your claim. Adjectives become useless as descriptive words when they're repeatedly in ways which hardly describe anything.

For instance, if I said the Sony Xperia has "pizzazz" and I said that in every review, in every post, and in every description of the device, you would simply read over it and cancel it out in your brain rather quickly, because at that point it's meaningless. And that's marketing jargon; throwing up buzzwords which are supposed to describe a product, but which are used more to associate the product with the word, regardless of its meaning. Then every time you hear "pizzazz" you think of the product, without giving any thought as to what "pizzazz" actually is. Consumers and reviewers aren't paid marketers, and yes, actually, using a thesaurus, or actually describing the product, is preferable to just using repetitious phrases because a company put them out. That kind of herd mentality is what drives mindless consumerism, and yes every company does it. It just so happens in this context that HTC users and reviewers do it a lot.

You can't say on one hand that the HTC embodies a design that is aesthetically pleasing to most people, and then suggest redoing it so as to accompany features which will change the fundamentals of that design. Really, if just putting aluminum on the phone could sell millions of extra units, Samsung would be doing it already. They may have a device standard, but they're also Capitalist, and they go where the money flows. There just isn't the research to back up spending the extra money.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Erica Law:
All these comments on the plastic found on the S4 won't change a thing.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
LOL. I find it hilarious how you automatically think I'm talking about HTC. :rolleyes: You do realize that other metal phones exist, right? Or maybe you've been listening to too much S4/One bickering lately. Interesting how defensive people get over their phones.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sarcron:
Considering that's what most of this discussion is centered on and the HTC happens to be the most popular aluminum phone at least until the next iPhone and all the recent comparisons of plastic to aluminum have been built on the Galaxy S4 and the HTC One respectively, pretty safe bet that's where the topics at. Oh yeah, and the "premium design" parroting has been almost exclusively around the HTC. Perhaps you're lost?

Interesting how quickly people drop their argument once they realize they just pushed their opinion as gospel truth with no facts.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mang0:
Nah, just lazy to respond to your repetitive arguments. I don't feel like I need to say the same thing 2000 times, since you obviously don't understand. :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sarcron:
Hey if you need a stop-wall to comfort yourself, go ahead. No one else here needed to project their insecurity onto others else just to disagree, though. You're alone on that one, sport.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vagsvag:
Plastic has better feel than metal and also is good for sensors
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaKTaiL:
S2 had this features since the beginning.....
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chery2k:
Why start this fight again? My vote goes with plastic and did you know plastic absorbs the shock better than aluminum when it comes to drop tests.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] eses1234:
Sorry for long story but might be interesting for developers.

Some time ago I have flashed OSIMood ROM to my Mediapad. After flashing I had brand new "Battery Gauge" showing percentage values (circular icon), but after some time it was.... lost(!!!)? I do not know what happened but it just has disappeared. At the same time device stopped displaying warning about "automatic shutdown" because of the low battery level.

Then.... I started to use alternative battery monitors (like Battery Monitor Widget) and it read very strange battery levels from system. According to what it read battery went down to 0% in 1-2hours of "screen-on" and it stayed at 0% even for 5 hours of "screen-on" time until device switched off because battery was empty.

The Battery Monitor Widget showed clearly that MEDIAPAD switches off without warring when the battery is empty (usually about 3250mV, lowest level reached was 3100mV). Switch off at ~3200mV is not devastating to battery as I have monitored many recharge cycles and battery was able to recharge back to 4199-4200mV every time.

The battery condition is fine - when it was recharged overnight I could EASILY reach over 6 hours of "screen on" watching online video (with WiFi on). I think this is perfect.

I have tried to recalibrate battery but it did not help. The battery monitors have always read level 0% and stays at 0% much too early.

I was NOT complaining about missing "automatic shutdown" - in my opinion this was triggered much too fast (when there was still lot of battery left). I could use my Mediapad much much longer, In my opinion this was huge ADVANTAGE(!!!).

I have tried to investigate and found somewhere that FuelGauge interprets 3900mV as 100% and 3400mv as 0% while Mediapad tab can still work intil it drops down to 3200mV(!!!). Moreover I have noticed that pad gets quickly down to about 3500mV~3450mV and this is a time when "automatic shutdown module" triggers "force close". But.... this feature was gone/borken in OSI MOD allowing tab to work for nex few hours (!!!) great

Now..... I wanted to get "overcloked kernel" and "touchsceen filtereing" and flashed CleanICE ROM and.... my tab gets dow to 0%in 2 hours + I suffer from "automatic shutdown". I miss the OSI MOD now and miss 6 hours of screen-on working.

THIS IS A MESSAGE TO ALL DEVELOPERS.

1. Could you please reveal how to REMOVE/DISABLE standard "automatic shutdown" feature? It will allow our's mediapads to run for 6 hours instead 2 or 3 hours.

2. Could you please fadjust the fuel gauge, by setting up the 100% for 4000mV and 0% for 3200mv. I think this will give much better battery level estimations.

Who know how to do this? Implementing this this would be great contribution for all Mediapad user community.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
maybe yor battery is worn...before I replaced battery, it jumped from 15% to 0% almost immediately, now with new one I can go up to 7 hours of screen-on+wifi (CM10 rom)...it takes about 40 minutes of using to drop from 2% to 1%
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] surfthesummer:
Where did you buy the new battery from?
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] danisukses:
can you tell me step-by-step how to open back cover? thankyou
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] guap:
I have a similiar problem in ALL custom rom i tried. My mediapad is hooked up in my car dashboard, so

ignition on -> charging (and normal use)

ignition off -> standby and airplane mode

many mornings instead of waking up automagically, I found mediapad shutted down. When I turn it on it shows suddently something like 70% charge! This issue *doesnt* appear in huawei rom, so it seems to be a custom rom/cyanogen issue

feel free to ask me info and please provide procedures for log and debug, I whould be very happy to solve this issue
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
you must remove two black covers then unscrew 6 screws (3 under each cover), then remove speakers cover and then carefully remove screen (use knife or something thin but be very careful cause you can damage wires or PCB with knife...it is not so hard to open it but you must be extremely careful
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] ZEII:
Excuse me.

Where did you buy the new battery from? :cowboy:
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
I bought it from one man who had 2 months old mediapad lite with broken screen so he was selling its parts
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] danisukses:
thankyou brother
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] buddylu:
MediaPad is only using ～40% of its battery power

I too observe the same behavior. It's quite obvious that the MediaPad is only using ～40% of its battery power.

The MediaPad would scream battery low and shut off (after around 3 hours of use) at around 3.75v, but there is still a lot of juice left in the battery! I can confirm this by continuing reboot into recovery mode (ie, screen on full brightness, no battery management), while the MP body becomes quite warm due to high power draw, it lasts another 3 hours before the battery protection kicks in and shuts off the power (~3.2V).

I found that if I plug in again and turn on the Mediapad, the battery gauge would stubbornly stay at 0% for around 2 hours (even though the battery is sucking power @ 1.3a and recovering in voltage) and then starts to move upwards (at around 3.95v). After another 3 hours, the battery is fully charged.

I can replicate this behavior in the official rom or any other roms that I have tried. So, it's seems to me that there're something REALLY WRONG with the MP's battery gauge and I would repeat eses1234's request:

THIS IS A MESSAGE TO ALL DEVELOPERS.

1. Could you please reveal how to REMOVE/DISABLE standard "automatic shutdown" feature? It will allow our's mediapads to run for 6 hours instead 2 or 3 hours.

2. Could you please adjust the fuel gauge, by setting up the 100% for 4000mV and 0% for 3200mv. I think this will give much better battery level estimations.

Who know how to do this? Implementing this this would be great contribution for all Mediapad user community.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] GuZuRa:
Hi, I'm not a developer but I think this can be a real HUGE and fantastic improvement for out MP. Googling around I've found this (maybe can be useful):

in BatteryService.java ,when the battery lvl is too low (0%, lower than 3.4v), the service will call shutdownIfNoPower to shutdown system. The complete file path is services/java/com/android/server/BatteryService.java in android_frameworks_base.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] Hiero:
Thats really some interesting facts.

I did some googling an came to this point:

I downloaded the latest rom from after_silence and extracted it to my hard disk.

Then i took the "/system/framework/services.jar" and disassembled it with the apktool.

After that i digged into the folders and found the BatteryService.smali in "com\android\server".

Im not a developer as well so im not able to go any further right now, but as far as i can see it should be possible to modify the BatterService, compile the services.jar and sign it again to push it back to the MediaPad.

Im stuck to the "shutdownIfNoPowerLocked" i think this is the variable which is forcing the shutdown.

Someone else with some more information?
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] buddylu:
I did some more experiments about the battery problem and found the following facts. I am not a developer myself, but I'd really be grateful if someone can at least disable the shutdownIfNoPower mechanism.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] .dredd.:
Any improvements in this subject???
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
no sorry, the only thing you can do to extend battery life is undervolting
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] .dredd.:
Thanks but undervolting does not help in the main problem that mediapad switches off at high battery voltages.
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
mine switch off at 3.55-3.6V
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] mblaster:
I had a look into it from the kernel side. The battery percentage shown is read directly from a battery monitor chip (TI bq27510). The percentage is calculated by the amount of charge that the battery provided to the pad (coulometer). The sysfs driver lives in /sys/power, its source is in drivers/power/bq275x0_battery.c.

The function that reports the battery percentage is this one:

/*
* Return the battery Relative State-of-Charge
* Or < 0 if something fails.
*/
int bq275x0_battery_capacity(struct bq275x0_device_info *di)
{
int data=0;
//	int data2 = 0;

if(BSP_FIRMWARE_DOWNLOAD_MODE == gBq275x0DownloadFirmwareFlag)
{
return 30;
}

#ifdef BQ275x0_DEBUG_FLAG
get_remaining_capacity(di);
get_full_charge_capacity(di);
#endif

data = bq275x0_i2c_read_word(di,BQ275x0_REG_SOC);

BQ275x0_DBG("read soc result = %d Hundred Percents\n",data);

return data;

}

If you want it to report something else, maybe based on the voltage, this function could easily be changed to something like:

/*
* Return the battery Relative State-of-Charge
* Or < 0 if something fails.
*/
int bq275x0_battery_capacity(struct bq275x0_device_info *di)
{
int data=0;
//	int data2 = 0;

[B]int voltage = 0; // Voltage in mV[/B]

if(BSP_FIRMWARE_DOWNLOAD_MODE == gBq275x0DownloadFirmwareFlag)
{
return 30;
}

#ifdef BQ275x0_DEBUG_FLAG
get_remaining_capacity(di);
get_full_charge_capacity(di);
#endif

[B]voltage = bq275x0_battery_voltage(di);
data = some_cool_function_that_magically_converts_the_voltage_into_a_good_percentage_estimate(voltage)[/B]

BQ275x0_DBG("read soc result = %d Hundred Percents\n",data);

return data;

}

Although one should check first that this does not interfere with charging the battery correctly (I guess it won't).

I have no working toolchain ready to test this atm (quite busy...). If I find some time I will give it a shot and ask around who wants to play the guinea pig ;)

mblaster
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] Hiero:
Hey mblaster,

that sounds really interesting!

So with this function we can reduce the shutdown voltage by manipulating the variable, right?
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] VeritasK1:
any news?

my pad keeps dropping its capacity by 20%+ in no time when its active/ in use

when in standby it works like it is supposed

any news would be much appreciated
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
its caused by battery wear
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] antimage05:
Although i dont have the mediapad, I have a similar problem in my HTC desire s. I've tried several roms and what I found is that on a sense Rom the battery drops from 100% to 0% in just about 40 minutes screen-on time and shuts own but if I have enabled fast boot mode in the settings and I immediately turn the phone on the battery will show 1% or 0% but I will still be able to use it for about an hour of screen on time before the phone shuts down abruptly(like when you pull out the battery and not proper shut down). The fast boot feature is not available in other non-sense Rom so once the phone shuts down I cannot turn it on
[Huawei MediaPad, T-Mobile SpringBoard] 441Excelsior:
fast boot mode is something like fast UEFI boot on computers
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cerisk:
Is there any way I can install Xperia Z lockscreen in my Xperia Sola with CM9.1. If yes please tell me how ??

Thank You
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] soulhackereborn:
Nope you can't ... there are changes related to framework so u ant unless someone else mods it for CM
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] cerisk:
Thank You

Hope some one mods it soon.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sabi4evr:
I have download an app while i have not got enough space in my phone memory to install, thought that i will move it to sd card, the app didn't installed in my phone neither got deleted, its stuck in my phone memory now, and i am not finding a way to delete it manually, please HELP!

also i would like to know how to access the phone memory folders and files like we access the MC. So, that I can deleted the broken downloaded files. I have already tried with the cleaner apps from market but didnt helped me much.. please help..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zahid5h:
there is several root access available on playstore but they are use less if you dont root you phone first

******************************************** here in brief ***********************

1. root your device http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-20054428-285/how-to-root-your-android/

2.get app to access the system/app :- https://play.google.com/store/apps/...wiY29tLnNwZWVkc29mdHdhcmUucm9vdGV4cGxvcmVyIl0.