yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
Yes there is 3 wires but thats not the issue.

The issue is there is 2 rows of pins 11 each.

So which row is one is pin 1 on? The row with the red wire or the one with

brown?

Plus the ground wire is being jumped from one pin on one row to

two pins on the other row at which makes five connections in my book.

So Cruisin-thru where is pin 1, is it on the row with the red wire or

is it on the row with the brown wire? Remember there is little room for error! :wink:

Looking forward to your reply,
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Carlos:
I documented that here: http://www.mywirelessoffice.com/xda/connector/
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] ntabikha:
pin connectors

well... to make sure, after you disassemble the plug,

insert it again in the xda, to make sure wich side is up, then...

first pin from left is 1,

right below it is 2... so...

1 3 5 7 9 ...

2 4 6 8 10...

;)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
Now.....you're talkin, thanks ntabikha! :lol:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Oman, I was assuming you had the read the aforementioned connecter diagram, hope it works out ok.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
I did but it led to further confusion. Anyhow I did finally get it working

thanks to that tip from ntabikha it put me on the right track to pin 1. :lol:

Boy I'm glad thats over!

Thanks Gang,
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] tekknogenius:
HELP

:x

I soldered a cassette adapter to pins 3 and 4 so I could get audio using the connector of the car adapter for power. Now I have power and some audio. Problem is that only mp3 files played in media player are piped through the bottom connector pins and thus through to the cassette adapter. wav files only play through the XDA speaker and the same for the phone, too. When using a cassette adapter via the 2.5 to 3.5 adapter attached to the headset port all sounds are piped through it.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanx.

I'm getting closer.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Yorch:
For those interested, I just finished making a quick tutorial on how to make a XDA cable for the Digitravel GPS

Visit my website and check the tutorials

I hope it helps!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] bevhoward:
PinOuts

To clarify a bit for other devices.

The cables that ship with the unit.

brn = receive

red = transmit

blk = ground

You can modify a four conductor phone cord to add either a db9 or the connector for your specific pocketpc.

Looking at the bottom (opposite the tab) of the RJ-11 connector that will plug into the receiver, cord down; (view following w/ fixed width font)

| | | | <- RJ-11 pins

R T G <- Cord conductors

X X N

D

You can test with any terminal program on a PPC or PC... as soon as cable is connected, unit should powerup, initialize and begin transmitting sat info.

Comm settings are 8/n/1/4800/no flow control

For Axim flow control pin shorting to support the three conductor, see http://BevHoward.com/Serial.htm#Axim

Works great with the RJ-11 serial connector system that I have been using for years.

Part of the purchase justification is that I now have additional PDA cables for my toolbox by converting the RJ connectors on the enclosed cables to my RJ schema.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] KnoFakAll:
For all ya yobbos living in the land down under (Australia).

Here is some useful info for ya.

Royal tek GPS mouse

http://www.royaltek.com

The Sapphire GPS mouse does not require a driver installed in the

PDA. Where as the Onyx requires a driver installed.

The Sapphire cost $85 USD and the Onyx cost $65USD

There is a shipment of $25 USD for Australia.

Now you are wondering...."Mate! what about me Software, me bloody maps mate!"

Here are some info, There is the Maptrex that you can use for Australia, but they just provide dodgy moving map softwares.

For In car navigation, I would say take a look at the Magellan Navigator.

http://www.magellan.com.au

Cost for this software is $245AUD w/o shipment cost.

Cheers Mate
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Thanks to Carlos who was good enough to purchase and post the Digitraveler from USA to me in UK. I have taken the plunge and adapted an existing usb sync/charger cable, I just cut the end from the palm connecter that came with the digitraveler, soldered the 3 wires to the pins inside the sync/charger connecter, cut a chunk of the plastic surrounding the wires where the connecter clamps together, this gave me room for the digitraveler cable, snapped it back together and now it serves as a gps to xda cable with in car charger using the cigarette adaptor end and also it still works as a sync/charger cable. This still leaves intact leads for the 3600 series and 3800 series ipaqs. Thank to Carlos and Yorch for their help in this. :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Is there anyone that can still get hold of one of these/has an extra one laying around, that they would be willing to send to the UK for me?

I would much appreciate it if someone could, as we don't appear to be able to get them over here. :(

Cheers
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] reydiodj:
I've just picked one up at Radio Shack - now marked for sale at $29.97! They had one more left but someone called and put it on hold as I was paying for mine...if that person doesn't pick it up at the end of the day - I can pick it up for someone tomorrow...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
8)

I'll definatley have it, if you can get hold of it for me.

If you can let me know either way, then if you can't get it I can see if anyone else can find one. :D

Many Thanks

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] reydiodj:
Swifty/Neil -

Sure thing, I'll PM you either way tomorrow!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] xdaeire:
sat mouse/car kit

hi guys...following the thread with interest.....does anyone know if its possible to integrate the radio shack mouse with a car kit?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Pc-Mobile:
Re: sat mouse/car kit

You can of course power it in car, if that was what you meant.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Carlos:
Sure, you can integrate it with a car kit. It's just a standard serial GPS. I have another serial GPS integrated with my home-made kit. If you have a kit that takes serial GPS (like the Seidio kits), then you'd just need a standard serial connector for this GPS.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
:( Looks like reydiodj can't get me one :cry: thanks for trying anyway though.

If anyone else thinks they can get hold of one for me, please let me know 8)

Many Thanks

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] reydiodj:
- Have you seen this one on Handango that came out last week?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] CarlnAdele:
Would one of you kind wizz kids be interested in making me one of these multi use cables for the cheap GPS car charge usb ???

I would of course pay for it and your time but a tested working one would be better as me and soldering irons dont get along.

Carl n Adele
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] CarlnAdele:
I'd also like one of these little cheap GPS units and although I can get one of ebay USA i could do with someone happy to post it to me as a gift.

I have paypal so payment is not a problem.

Carl n Adele
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] xdaeire:
USB GPS

Is it possible to patch a laptop Gps mouse with usb connection into an xda....and more specifically, the xda car kit?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Dont think so, can you obtain a replacement lead for your gps that will interface with the serial connection on xda?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] reydiodj:
If you are in the San Francisco area, there are 2 units at the Polk Street location - still for $29.97!! I came across 2 that still has the hardware - they can sell those but are unable to mark down the price any further...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
If anybody gets any of these and is willing to post, I will pay, either through paypal or other methods.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] md:
Yorch,

Just like to thank you for the information on your web site. I now

have a functioning Digitraveler and likely would not have attempted

it without seeing your pictures and pinout info.

Thanks MD
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] ntabikha:
can anyone suggest a good GPS software?

i've seen one on demo one time, but i cant remember its name.

i want the one that i can input the destination by address, from pda.

not preprogram it from pc.

you know... in case im driving and i have to go somewhere on a service call. i want to be able to find that address and get there, without a pc.

thanks

by the way, Teletype GPS has alottt of great features, including emailing or SMSing your gps location to anyone ;) great for tracking progress .
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] andygee:
I use Pharosgps software and it will allow input from the pda to find the destination. Only drawback that I can find is that you must make sure you open the maps of the destination on the unit prior to trying to find the address. It won't open the maps automatically.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
I can get you one, let me know what you think by way of email or PM!

HTH
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
Mapopolis

http://www.mapopolis.com/index.html

HTH
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] nutz:
I've just bought the digitraveller at a local radio shack for $29. Can someone help me thru with the pin configuration. I've tried reading the pin configuration like how ntabikha have posted.... 1 , 2 right below, 3 next row top....however yorch on his site have pin 8 on the top this doesnt correspond to the instructions that ntabikha have posted. Also about going to the settings tab and disabling the irda, i cant locate that function anywhere. Thanks in advance.

nevermind .... i've figured it out.... :)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
With the cable plugged into your device and the screen facing up pin one is on the bottom.

So on the Bottom row you'll have

1,3,5,7,9.....

On the top row you'll have:

2,4,6,8,10....

HTH
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
I followed Yorch's instructions to the letter and it works. I am very impressed with the Digitraveler, I leave power plugged in and batteries also, this way it gets a fix rapidly when I connect the xda. Its the only 16 channel GPS I have seen and it works a treat, unfortunately, several of my friends are equally impressed and I have been elected to acquire and convert units for them, isnt it great to have friends :roll:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] sg_r1:
nutz: anymore of the $29 gps deals?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Yorch:
Your Welcome! :wink:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
You cannot buy the product online, it is closeout sale instore only. Discontinued product.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Mobile1:
Hey guys, I have a question. I can't wait to try all of this stuff and get GPS running on my PPCPE. What I want to know is can I build the Cassette adapter into this set up that Yorch has set up for us Here. Providing the information that carlos provided us Here I just want to make sure, I could just solder it to pins 3 and 4 and that would provide my audio right?

I would like to use it as a speaker phone, through my car speakers but just use the mic on the phone. Would this work? Thanks for the info....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] tekknogenius:
Theoretically it should work

I was attempting the same thing with the cassette, but for some reason only mp3 files played via the media player were piped through the connector. I couldn't figure out why so I scrapped it. If you get the thing working I'd love to hear how.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Does anyone know if the Digitraveler can be re-wired to work with a Toshiba E330 PDA?

As I have just bought my dad one for christmas (it should be here tomorrow :D ), and I would really like to get a GPS unit for it, with the digitraveler the price it is, and having used it on my XDA, I think it would be great, as I don't have much £££ left now :p

Cheers

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Yes Swifty as long as the pda has serial connection. You will need the pin assignments though, so make sure you have access to those and also a plug to fit the pda.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Thanks for the reply, I'll try and find some information on the connector that the Toshiba Unit uses, but if anyone can help me with the pinouts it would be much appreciated.

Cheers

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Well.... I have done some looking around and a couple of sites say that serial transfer is not capable on the e330, but I have found this : http://www.gpsw.co.uk/details/prod1295.html and also TomTom appear to do a package for the E330 :?

Are all of these GPS units only going to be using 3 wires ? Because if so, surely I could buy a cable designed to hookup the E330 to another GPS unit, then fit the connector that the digitraveler uses?

Cheers

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] axr75:
Can anyone tel me if it's possible to buy Digitravel GPS in europe (in particulary in italy...)?

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Sorry it was on sale in USA only and now discontinued. :(
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
I had this problem with an Ipaq 1910, it has no serial connection, however I scanned around the web and found a guy in the same predicament, he then went on to design and fabricate a box with connections for the haicom gps or standard 9 pin d plug gps. He then built a circuit board that converts the signal to IRDA, the box also powers the Haicom. I got mine today, just setting it up with TOMTOM to use infrared, will let you know the results. There are some smart people about out there, it cost me 43.75 euro including postage and will work with any infrared capable machine that is running mapping with irda support. It is limited to 4800 or 9600 which has to be specified when ordering but he is working on making it switchable.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
UPDATE: The infrared converter box works flawlessly with Tomtom on my ipaq 1910, in fact it gets a very fast fix using the Haicom 203e, I got 6 sats with signal almost off the scale within 1 minute, while it sat on my window ledge. I have an ipaq charger plugged into the ipaq and the supplied lead plugged into the infrared converter, because I was one of his first customers he put both connecters in the box, the Haicom one, you just plug the mouse in, no need for the charger adaptor as the box supplies power, and also the 9 pin d for garmin etc, also is another 9 pin d to enable logger or pc connection while the box is connected. So anybody that has a device with only irda can now use gps. :)

P.S. I am in no way connected the the maker of this device, I just like to give credit where it is due and in this case credit is due 100%
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Wow thats brilliant news!

So that means the Digitraveler could be hooked upto it using this cable yeh : http://www.i-hacked.com/images/laptop-gps.gif

A couple of questions:

How big is this box?

Does it need to have a line on sight with the PDA's IR Pickup or is there a dongle?

Would it be suitable for in-car use ?

Where can I find some more info? :D

Many thanks for letting us know about this great find!

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
It comes with a flying lead which has the infra red led attached, in car is its purpose. Heres the link to his homepage

http://home.tiscali.nl/~t_aalberts/

The site also gives step by step details if you want to make your own unit.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Thanks for the info ;)

Did you get yours direct from the guy who makes them ?

As from what i can make out (the website is in Swedish or something) it looks to be around 78 Euros for the unit..

Thanks again

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
I bought direct, if you contact him he may be doing another lot direct. I imagine the price difference is the resellers markup.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Thanks for the great info once again ;)

However my problem is now solved, as I have sold the E330 (as it was POOR to say the least) and now I have purchased and XDA to give to my dad instead :D

(I will however pass on the info to a friend of mine who has an HP1910) ;)

So my next Question is to the US Members........ are there any more Digitravelers left out there ??

Would some kind soul be willing to ship one over to the UK for me ?

Many Thanks

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Anyone :?: :(

Cheers

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] pdhenry:
I'll check tomorrow...

I'll go by the RS tomorrow and see what's there. I haven't been in 2-3 months, so I'm not expecting anything - but we'll see anyway.

I did see a couple on eBay within the last week or two.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] MatrixOnLine:
iPAQ to XDA Interface Adapter

Guys

I just bought last week in San Francisco a Digitraveler from Radio Shack. I am wondering whether I can use the cable on the link below to avoid to modify the iPAQ cable like on the Yorch instructions.

What do you think? Will it work?

http://www.gomadic.com/ip31totmobxd.html

Thanks

Mario
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Pc-Mobile:
Re: iPAQ to XDA Interface Adapter

It should work.

But you may like to consider this:

http://pc-mobile.net/rsgps.htm
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] pdhenry:
reporting back...

I looked - no Digitravelers at the local Radio Shack.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Swifty:
Ok, thanks very much for looking anyway :wink:

If anyone can find me one it would be much appreciated, as GPS unit's to buy in the UK are nearly £100 !!

Cheers

Neil
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cellfreak:
Glad to see everybody liked the GPS cable mod post.

:D

Well I'm getting my XDA back today. I had traded for a Wi-Fi PDA but am trading back for one of my N-Gages. I have a few other trick I'm working on for the phone.

Dave
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cellfreak:
My Digitraveler cable mod also works on my SPV..

:)

The cable will also work on the SPV as they are made by the same company HTC. The connector is just flipped upside down. The only problem I have run into is developers are slow at bringing out GPS software for the Smartphone version of Windows. I have tried a few smaller programs originally for the pocket PCs but the were not ported correctly to use the buttons on the SPV.

Dave
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cellfreak:
Adding GPS power from XDA serial cable/charger....

:D

I'm back at it again. This time I'm adding a power / ground wire to the GPS. The Digitraveler runs on 6V DC. You can get phone lines with 2, 4 and 6 wires. The 6 wire would be best. I am trying to run a connection between the + , to run up the unused wire connecting the XDA to the GPS. If you unscrew the GPS you will see how it can have battery or external power. I plan on soldering a jumper between the external power connection and the contact on the phone rj45 jack. There are 1 through 6 pins on the connector. Pin 5 is the ground. Pins 1 , 4 and 6 are unused. I am going to use pin 5 ans my common ground and run power up to pin 4. Then run a jumper over to the + connection on the circuit board.

Dave
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] LanceM:
Digitraveler isnt avail anywhere in San Antonio... Anyone know of another vendor of it besides ebay?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Digitraveler was on close out sale, probably none left in any of the stores.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] MatrixOnLine:
Please help!

Guys

I have modified the iPAQ cable in the Radio Shack GPS following the Yorch instructions. Since the pins were really small (I am not an expert in soldering) I have removed all the pins with a pliers with the exception of no. 5, 8 and 10 (for the black, red and brown wires).

When I tried to connect to the XDA to test it setting the GPS on COM1 Microsoft Pocket Street tells me that the GPS does not answer.

What do you think? Is it possible that the other pins are necessary even if they are not connected to any wire?

I have attached a pic of the cable.

Thanks

Mario
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Have you turned off "beams" under settings/connections/beams? Does the green light on the digitraveler come on when you start the program? Do you have batteries/power to digitraveller? Have you tried any gps testing program to see if the gps is visible on Com1? If the green light doesnt come on it means no communication/no power or both.

Having carried out several wiring conversions for digitraveler I suggest that anybody else wanting to do this should use an xda usb sync/charger cable as the "master lead", also will need the cigar lighter plug end for power, just take one of the digitraveler leads that you wont need "palm"? chop off the end of the digitraveler lead, then just solder those three wires as illustrated by yorch to the usb lead end, this removes the need for so much soldering and reduces the chances of a short down to almost zero.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] MatrixOnLine:
thanks for your fast reply.

I turned off beams (so that COM1 was available). The green light does not come on. I had both batteries and lighter adaptor for the digitraveler connected. I just tried Microsoft Pocket Street GPS. It tells me no communication from COM1.

Is there any software to test if the GPS is visible on COM1?

Regarding the cable hint I am not sure to have understood everything. Can you clarify a little bit?

Thanks

M
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] monika69:
Anyone keen on getting that smallish GPS over to Poland ??

after having read through your postings I am very keen on getting my hands on that DigitalRiver GPS

assuming of course they have been still available ... in IPAQ version, i.e. with 3 cables set etc

please let me know if anyone has been interested, I can not get them locally as they are virtually not available here

regards,

monika
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] Qman:
MatrixOnLine are you sure you have the correct pins?

With the cable plugged in to your device (screen facing up) pin 5 should be

on the bottom row and pins 8 and 10 should be on the top row.

HTH
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] roger:
no com port

I have a similar problem. Try switching off the phone too. I switched everything off (apart from XDA), stopped ALL programs, then connected the GPS cable, then turned on gps. I have somw good GPS checking software I can let you have a copy of if you like.

roger
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] roger:
should have said HAD A SIMLIAR PROBLEM. After doing the above, the GPS worked (digitraveler) - just switch everything back on again once connected! A pain, bit it works! Roll on the new rom...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cellfreak:
new power supply for the XDA and Digitraveler GPS.......

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=5180&highlight=digitraveler :o
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] MatrixOnLine:
Now it works!!!

Qman, thanks for your help... finally I could dedicate some mins to the GPS issue and I solved... In fact, like you said, I was using the wrong pins!!!

Thanks again
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] stillaround:
Unexpire Mapopolis?

Just bought the Digitravel from a Radio Shack in Oceanside, CA (Two more left) for $29.97. Followed the instructions on this post and on Yorch's site. The unit is working great, including power. I'm using Mapopolis software which I'm very happy with. I read on another post about unexpiring the Demo maps. Can this be done?

Thanks for your reply and for all the guidance in setting up this GPS system.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Accessories] cruisin-thru:
Clarification for my last post, it is much easier to utililize an existing usb cable to carry out this mod, to power the xda you will need a lighter adaptor which plugs on the usb end of the usb sync/charge cable. Remove the plastic shroud from the xda end of the cable, introduce the 3 wires from the digitraveler cable, this cable is the result of chopping the palm connecter off the digitraveler cable, just introduce the 3 wires from the digitraveler cable to the xda end of the usb cable, 3 solders is all you need, everything else is already in place. So you end up with a sync/charge cable that you can still use on your pc if you wish, a charger cable for your xda in car and the connection for your digitraveler for gps use. You can power the gps by battery or using a standard nokia charger. The final result should be, lighter plug to usb, usb to xda, xda to gps.