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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] spncrmoo:
Won't sell my Nexus 4 until I get my Nexus 5 :D

I had an S3, and I've not totally given up on Samsung after all the fuss over sources for developers etc, not what I like to see. Very happy still with my Nexus 4, nothing to make me consider an 'upgrade' (and I normally always demand the latest and greatest).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
As for your first question, it's really entirely down to opinion. If you don't want any of the newer hardware on the GS4 (i.e. 1080p screen, octa-core processor, 13MP camera etc.) then don't bother. I personally don't see it as worth it at all. I would never be able to tell the difference between 1080p and 720p screens, I can't conceive of any task in the foreseeable future which the S4 Pro won't be able to handle, I don't use my camera too much and I don't need the expandable storage. Your opinion may well differ, and at the end of the day you definitely won't be able to get a definitive answer to this as it's all down to opinion.

As for the second question, there's already a thread in the Q&A about this (in which the vast majority of people answered no).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chris6278:
The only way id sell my n4 is to maybe get a n5. The s4 didnt really impress me an all of its new features seem gimmicky
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biggiephat:
No
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Yes.

Why, so someone that wants and will enjoy the n4 will get it, and then you can get and use what you want as well..

I'm thinking I'll eventually sell mine to get an xphone, maybe.. For the meanwhile I'm enjoying it ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hello00:
hopefully n5 will be better so no..who the hell likes touchwiz anyways
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrBelter:
All these new phones could make your tea and replace your loved one in the bedroom for all i care they are all more than double the price so they can shove them where the sun doesn't shine.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
*IF* the S4 is easy to develop for (probably not), then I would. The Nexus is only great in terms of development support. As a hardware platform, it's just meh....

- Horrible battery life compared to competing phones

- Screen not calibrated

- No LTE

- No SD card

- Only 16gb
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kzoodroid:
That's like saying should I trade my playboy playmate girlfriend for some fat ugly chic? If that's what you're into then go for it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikzDHD:
Just remember your N4 will get the next version of Android and the features that will bring, your S4? Well you may have to wait a while to get version 5 of Android! Sure the S4 may have better specs but software is just as important as hardware!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ace42:
1. Battery has been great for me, better than sensation and mt4g.

2. Can be done with apps, I tuned mine based off of an oled, love the screen now :)

3. It does, users are using lte now

4. This was known prior to release

5. Also previously known prior to release

Expandable storage would make nexus an unfair competing device, Google must still cooperate with other manufacturers...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baraks:
personally i think that the SGS4 is a great phone BUT I don't see any reason for us (the moderate users) to take a leap for it and thats why:

the nexus 4 is amazingly fast, battery is just fine and if u need more than that get a portable charger, PURE android and fast updates so u don't get tied to the manufacturer's good will, I don't like the Super AMOLED display to my eyes the colors are too saturated but that doesnt mean they are not good.

i've bought the nexus after having 4 HTC devices and i must say pure android device is an another league, the custom UI is just slowing it down.

and so about the Exynos 5 Octa

this is NOT a real Octa core. this processor packs tow quad cores

4-cortex A7 @1.6ghz for power 'saving'

4-cortex A15 @ 1.2ghz for performance.

i dont believe in this concept but maybe it's just me.....

so i dont see reason to buy the sgs4 while u can enjoy the nexus 4.

just my opinion.....
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calanizzle:
I'm more tempted to the HTC One but Nexus 5 rumors are 1337
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 75markus:
Never ever !

I had the S3 before, i gave it to my son and enjoy the N4 now.

I love bug-free custom ROMs, you will never have this on a Samsung product.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoft1:
http://mblog.gsmarena.com/cyanogenmod-wont-develop-for-the-galaxy-s4/

Just further confirmation that the development landscape for the s4 will be very barren
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyraelasd:
- Go ahead and try different roms an kernels, you can double your screen on time with the right combination.

- Go ahead and try different kernels, as an example, the recomended values that comes with franco will blow your mind away.

- Well you have a point there, me personally don't need that LTE speed.

4,5 - Well, I don't really understand why people needs more than 16gb in a phone, is your phone a cinema theater or something that has tons of movies to store or what?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidpixar:
First nexus phone for me after an S2 and an S3. I'm never moving to any other device unless it's the next nexus. Nuff said.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaiaV:
The CM team debunked that.

https://plus.google.com/117962666888533781522/posts/7jywLJdswki

I should add that whether you sell your Nexus 4 to buy an S4 is completely up to you. That is an extremely personal decision, and only the OP can decide that. Anything else is just everyone else's personal opinion, and is usually going to go between people who actually use and love the Nexus 4 (or Nexus in general), and those who don't but post here anyway. Being as this is the Nexus 4 board, I would think the question is most likely going to be slanted in one direction.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ok_Kaleidoscope5109:
I know that. I'm running CM 10.1 with Franco. It's better than stock, but in general the N4 falls flat. It's far behind in battery tests against phones from 2012 like the One X and S4. While everyone talks about screen time, that's not really a true battery test.

I dual carry an iPhone 5 for work so I know what a good battery is. I can forget to charge my iPhone and it will be fine the second day. I sync Exchange 24/7 on the iPhone, auto upload Google+ photos, sync Gmail, twitter, Facebook AND Google Latitude. When I do the same things on my Nexus 4, I get 6% drain per hour on 3G. The iPhone is less than 1/3 that. Android uses more battery on a per hour basis in general. The omission of LTE causes more battery drain too due to 3G congestion in most developed countries (yes besides living in the US I travel Asia frequently, so I can see the 3G congestion everywhere). My S3 friends can sync a bunch of crap and survive with low battery drain.

There's definitely kernel, driver, and radio issues at stake here, but Samsung's done a GREAT job in optimizing their phones. I just wish Google could do the same thing without all the bloat of S-apps and do it to AOSP Android phones.

Yes my screen blows the S3 away, but for people who don't root and go into all this detail, then what? I ran Franco and he was one of the last ones to put in Gamma, so I had to suffer while Faux users danced around. The point is screen should come decent. Would you be ok if Google released the phone with such bad colors it was only black and white and you had to rely on a developer to unlock the true potential of the screen? I think Google should do a little better job here.

BTW this isn't the first time colors sucked. The Nexus S I had was pretty bad and so was the Galaxy Nexus. Both of them got unlocked for screen tuning and they can look awesome once tuned.

Uh... it's about choice. Forget the fact that you can load movies and watch it on this screen that blows away your mind according to you. If you don't do that, that's great. There are users who do that. I don't. However, on another note, the camera is 8MP and 1080p. We keep pushing resolution, and we advertise these features. Yet 1080p recordings will easily eat your phone apart. Android has always been about choice, and while Google can release a non polished OS and have CyanogenMod clean it up, we can't clean up an idiotic mistake that omits larger sizes and the SD card option. Considering Apple's iPhone 3GS was released at 16gb min, it's a shame we had only 8gb/16gb options. Go ahead, make the excuse for costs and stuff, but in 2012, you shouldn't be releasing something without a 32gb option at least. HTC learned that with the One X and offers 64gb versions for the One X+ and new One.

Look, I don't care if you use 12gb/16gb or just 500kb. You can use as much or as little, but for those who want more, we don't have that option. It's nice to have that option. If all you do is use your phone to surf and chat and you don't use it to watch movies or take pictures, or store music, great.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Yuvin:
I'd say to wait it out and sell your Nexus 4 just before the next Nexus comes out and upgrade to that. Chances are that the next Nexus will be much better than the GS4 and also run KLP.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] persheshhater:
I would have sold it if there was no KLP coming out in May. It will suck having the s4 and waiting for sammy to upgrade to KLP(6months wait at least)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zorachus:
Nexus-Five is the One to go 4 :)

Fuk Touchjizz and Senseless phones.

Once Android 5.0 KLP comes out, you'll sure wish you owned a Nexus phone.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
If you can afford off contract phones ($800) then go ahead, its not like a new customer can just buy a new phone without paying big bucks everytime a new phone is released

Nexus 4 tandem
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jammol:
Wow, why do you own the phone then? Obviously something is keeping you from getting rid of it. Stfu.

Tired of reading about how horrible the n4 is from you people. Either deal or get a different one. Nothing is perfect, and there is no such thing as an OMG THIS PHONE CAN DO EVERYTHING! None of them can.

BTW that i5 has a tailored os for better battery.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
If you don`t mind the Samsung bloatware and want a out of the box phone ready to use, yes the S4 will be great for you. If you want clean Android and enjoy flashing kernels and/or custom rom`s and mod`s than the N4 is the one for you ;)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] steviewevie:
If you prefer the S4 to the N4, then get it. If you don't, then don't. No-one else here can make your decision for you, it's personal preference.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
Nah, that's far too easy and obvious a solution. We must pointlessly argue about opinion!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fedor12:
Wait for the nexus 5 to come out then make your decision, i have a feeling it will blow away the competition
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androidfoshizzle:
If you can afford it and have coverage go ahead and buy the piece of plastic

Nexus 4 tandem
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
Samsung build quality is not bad and even good imo. It will not shatter after a fall and the parts are easy to replace and inexpensive and it has a sturdy frame.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rhala:
Blowing away the competition with the Nexus 5, wouldn't help Google that much... they profit of the wide variance of manufacturers. As you can see with Samsung, Google doesn't want a monopole for one Android manufacturer and since they always cooperate with hardware manufacturers for their nexus devices, they won't make them invincible. That's the reason why they always change manufacturers, to strengthen the ones against the competing manufacturers. The Nexus 5 in my opinion will also have flaws like the Nexus 4 had, if you want to call it "flaws"... There has to be something other phones are better in it, so that the competition doesn't get lost and Google stays with many manufacturers, which are able to produce android phones with profit
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DesertHawk:
No. Simply no
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fedor12:
Hmm i do agree with what you say but personally i don't really understand why google doesn't just get their phones manufactured by motorola from now on surely that would be cheaper for them right? As they now own them but maybe im missing something?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rhala:
Well that will come... Motoblur is going to be removed from future motorola phones, but since Motorola had a tough time, they were occupied by cleaning up and making the company profitable again. The development of a phone in a company doesn't start after the newest one is out, they start really early and release like every year... so while making Motorola profitable again, i guess they didn't have that much time to develop new phones, but they announced that new Motorola phones will come with stock Android experience ;)

Edit: And yes it will be cheaper, but Google owns Android, so the more Android phones there are, the more money Google gets. And so they will continue strengthen every competitive company to hold the market stable and healthy
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
Than most of the other manufaturers (HTC, Samsung, Sony etc etc) would drop android and advertising revenues would shrink for Google.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Crisisx1:
Hell yes. Can't wait to get the s4...Then I'll probably go for the Nexus five lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rhala:
What you should also think of is, that if you were using Custom ROMs on your Nexus 4, the Custom ROMs on the S4 will remove the Samsung software. Since that's usually what we want at xda, that shouldn't be a problem, but the price of the S4 is also that high because there are so many software features! The softwaredevelopment is much more expensive than the real hardware (with the S4 the hardware only costs about 250$) So if you're not using them, don't know if that money is well placed with the S4, and as I said Custom ROMs will wipe them off of the phone... Also the Custom ROMs won't run as well as on the Nexus 4