yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] cb474:
Why would she make that up? Just to annoy people? Just to stick her neck out on something she doesn't know about, so she can then annoy people and be proven to be wrong?

I'm as unhappy as the next person that the Dev device won't be S-Off (and won't have AWS). But attacking an HTC employee who is at least answering people's questions doesn't really serve much of a purpose.
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
She's the one who posted the article about the dev edition phone, so she's going to post info about a phone she knows nothing about?

It will not be s-off
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
If it allows free tethering on AT&T, I will get one.

Sent from my RM-820_nam_canada_246 using Board Express
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
I can't see why it wouldn't. We're buying straight from HTC, it just happens to have ATT bands, so there shouldn't be anyway they can control that.
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
Don't be so naïve. I got a Nokia dev phone that has nothing to do with AT&T and yet it still locks me out of tethering on AT&T. Fortunately there is an easy work around for that.

There is a reason that why Google Nexus 4 can't connect to AT&T LTE even though it is physically capable.
[One (M7) General] ryanjsoo:
So this phone will not work outside the US? Australia per say?
[One (M7) General] scotty1223:
Should work fine anywhere that uses those bands. Unlocked is unlocked. You'll just need someone in the us to buy you one ;)

If its s on I'm out. I could prolly buy a normal one off contract and pay to have it JTAG s offed for less than the cost of the dev phone :rolleyes: Wat a joke...
[One (M7) General] SteelH:
Well it looks like I'll be skipping this phone since I have Sprint.
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
From googles spec page, the nexus 4 doesn't support lte for anyone. Sounds more like a google issue than AT&T controlling them. Tethering is native to android and I doubt htc would remove it from a developer edition, but I could be wrong.
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
You have no idea then, When Nexus 4 first arrived, ppl found hacks to enable LTE radio. Google quickly released update to disable those hacks. After all, GN4 is almost the identical phone that LG releases for carriers.

There is currently no US LTE phones that are not carrier branded. Both Verizon and AT&T tightly controls it. Even the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon is a Verizon phone that Google can't push updates to it without Verizon's approval.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
The phone is not S-Off Leigh said she would have put in the post if it was S-Off. It is only sim free and bootloader unlocked.
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
it can, in 2g speed in most cases. Australia uses 850mhz band as well. So you maybe able to get 3g.

Sent from my RM-820_nam_canada_246 using Board Express
[One (M7) General] HC4Life:
S**t!!! I want to buy this version cause it's 64gb version with a nice price. But i'm from Portugal will be hard to get one.

Any ideas?
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
I guess we'll have to wait and see what the functionality is when it ships. Keep in mind for bands on the phones the vendors have to pay additional royalties for each enabled band. Google may have kept it from being LTE to hit a price point.
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
Nope, in US, you still need carrier's approval for using their LTE service, much like the CDMA phones. GSM/HSPA is open. LTE is not. That's what I heard.

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You want one even if you won't likely to get 3G service at all ?
[One (M7) General] Henryy97:
Will the developer edition be the same as the original HTC One? Like, besides S-off and such. Meaning that no matter which of these phones you have, you can install the same ROM/mods/CWM into them? :fingers-crossed:

PS. I read the engadget post. I just want to be 100% sure because this seems perfect
[One (M7) General] ozgreg:
Just a few little tips for you all..

A) HTC phone sold internationally can be unlocked via the HTC Developers tool but it is a half ass process which = painful flashing (I know I have a HTC One X) because HTC will not allow S-OFF. Try the many international sellers to get your hands on an international device because it looks like the Developer Version is not going to be S-OFF..

B) Many countries have multiple (ready way to many bands) both in the 3G and LTE.. I not seen a handset that is yet to support them all and HTC One is no exception to this, google is your friend as HTC sells different Network flavors :)

My advice, wait for what is about to be released..

Tegra 4i (which is the integrated I500 Chip) will feature a very broad frequency 3G+LTE chip set which I think will be a game changer as it should support just about every 3G+LTE Network with a very fast 150mbps connection rate.. Wait for Google IO If you can, most likely we will see a release of a Tegra 4i device hopefully in the Nexus Product Range with S-OFF..
[One (M7) General] Hunt3r.j2:
Tegra 4i sounds like it'll blow chunks because it's really just a Tegra 3+. The HTC dev handset sounds like it supports quad band WCDMA and quad band GSM, and then a bunch of LTE bands that may or may not work with the LTE bands that Europe uses.
[One (M7) General] hufqnjhu:
the US variants won't probably be unlockable through htcdev.
[One (M7) General] scotty1223:
Why do you say that? Att has a history of not allowing unlock,but t mobile and sprint do not. We have no reason to think at this point their variants will be any different. Att may be SOL but the others should still be unlockable.

After no s off on the one x all this time,I'm done with tegra devices. The s4 processors at least have a hope of being exploited ;)
[One (M7) General] foxbat121:
Here is the official spec, there is no quad band WCDMA:
[One (M7) General] Closed Source Project:
Umm.. You might think you're smart, but tmobiles highest speed (marketed as 4g) is actually 3g hspa+. The dev device will run on this meaning tmobile is supported. Theses are the same bands tmobile runs on anyways.
[One (M7) General] cb474:
Mmm. This is sort of true. T-Mobile uses AWS (1700/2100 Mhz) UMTS for 3G and now is also refarming a lot of its 1900 Mhz (PCS) spectrum to UMTS/3G. So the dev phone supports 3G only on the new refarmed 1900 Mhz signal (which is the same as what AT&T uses for 3G).

T-Mobile users have widely reported very mixed results with the refarmed 1900 Mhz spectrum, even in major metropolitan areas where supposedly the refarm to 1900 Mhz has been completed. Apparently the power for the 1900 Mhz signal on the initial roll out is supposed to be kept low and turned up over time, to make sure it does not interfere with other carriers operating on the same frequency.

So if you have a phone that does not also support AWS 3G (1700/2100 Mhz) and you are in a location where you are unable to get a 1900 Mhz 3G signal, then on a phone like the Dev phone you will in fact be kicked down to Edge/2G (which for T-Mobile also operates on 1900 Mhz, but there is a stronger signal currenlty for 2G in most locations).

Some say the refarmed 1900 Mhz 3G on T-Mobile will improve over time (as they turn the power up on the signal). But I personally really would not acquire a phone based on the hope that in the future the network might be better. That could be a real excercise in frustration.

The Dev phone apparently will work with T-Mobile's AWS based LTE network, once it gets rolled out. But that is also a ways off.

In this case, it really would make a lot more sense to just get the T-Mobile version of the HTC One, which will support AWS 3G. And perhaps just make sure before you get it that HTC is allowing bootloader unlocking. And if you buy the phone from T-Mobile without a contract, then you should also be able to SIM unlock it (though I'd also double check that first).
[One (M7) General] Pr20:
How about the HSPA 2100? Doesnt that mean that you can use this HTC one and get the t-mobile 4G/3G+
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
Does anyone know if that device will work in Brazil?

No LTE here. I was about to get the international version.
[One (M7) General] pookguy88:
is it actually going to be transparent? because that's just stupid
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
No transparent aluminium is totally cool man ! /jk :p
[One (M7) General] cb474:
Unfortunately, no. AWS UMTS uses 1700 Mhz for the uplink and 2100 Mhz for the downlink. That's different from 2100 Mhz used, like in Europe, for both up and down (although even there the actual uplink is really more in the 1900 Mhz range). So the 2100 Mhz spec on the HTC One just applies to how 3G works in other parts of the world, not to North America.

So on T-Mobile for 3G you either need the 1700/2100 Mhz pair for AWS or you need 1900 Mhz for PCS.

There's a chart here that shows the actual frequency bands used for different versions of UMTS:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands

This means, as I say above, that for the dev version of the One, it will only support 3G over 1900 Mhz on T-Mobile (and your mileage really may vary a lot in how good of an experience that's going to be--according to widespread user reports). The T-Mobile version of the One will support 3G both on 1900 Mhz and on 1700/2100 Mhz (and I think this is going to be a much better more consistent 3G experience).
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
Nice. After doing some research from my band in Brazil

I think this dev. Option will work for me.

Gsm 850mhz

3g works with 2100mhz

Can you guys check if I'm correct?

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[One (M7) General] Funk2641:
Yup, you're good to go. Now we just need a release date
[One (M7) General] ThePhoneGeek:
Ok starting to get a bit excited for this device now...

My One X+ is only four months old and it will move to the backup role...

MG
[One (M7) General] valleng:
Idk why they are waiting for the carriers to release the dev version
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
Most likely due to an agreement with them re: US releases. Carriers always want to be first to market.
[One (M7) General] valleng:
It's an unlocked version. Google didn't wait for T-Mobile with the Nexus 4.
[One (M7) General] mickliq:
Same boat, love my One X+ (except dumb things like not working properly with most wired headsets, lack of AOSP ROM)...but hard to resist the One. I am however going to have to find this Developer version with 64GB because no way I can live with 32GB (it was difficult with the One X which only had 25GB useable...One would be the same).
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
3 things. 1. Google is a lot bigger than HTC and has more leverage in negotiations. 2. AT&T is a lot bigger and a lot more crucial to the success of this device than T-Mobile was for the Nexus. And 3. HTC needs the carriers to market and push the One for it to be successful. I think that's been one of their main issues in the past and they've realized that. They don't want to do anything to turn the carriers against them.
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
Hurryyyy HTC!!!!! I wanna sell my gs3 asap! Lol

It sucks so bad that HTC didn't work out in Brazil. I follow a Brazilian forum for android users and everybody wants this phone but they are all getting gs4 since you can't even change the screen if you break it.

But I'll take my chances. I need to buy 4 devices. Hope they all work well.
[One (M7) General] ThePhoneGeek:
Yeah 64GB for certain! I just wish it was even more!!!

MG
[One (M7) General] fix-this!:
Still a dumb move not to have this on sale yet.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
According to HTC they're not on sale right now b/c they are being manufactured along with the US variations of the device. Has nothing to do with carrier hold up or anything else in HTC's control.
[One (M7) General] cb474:
Yeah, I don't really see how it would hurt the carriers, if the dev version were released a little bit ahead of time. The fact that it has to do with the manufacturing process makes more sense.

If the dev version were released early, the people who got it would be the most devoted Android/HTC fans (very few people are really willing to pay full price for a phone, after all--even if they don't understand that the economics of carrier subsidies actually works against them). So these early adopters of the dev phone, as the biggest Android/HTC fans, are the kind of people who are going to create buzz.

Having some big fans out there in the world with this beautiful phone that they love and will rave about and showing it to people is only free advertising. It's the same reason the device manufacturers hand out review units to a bazillion blogs and websites ahead of time. To get people all excited and hyped up and talking about the device.
[One (M7) General] ThePhoneGeek:
No argument at all but I don't think I've seen a mfg release a dev edition before the carrier editions. It just doesn't happen.

Should they release everything the day they announce it sure but that is not the way the industry works...

MG
[One (M7) General] cb474:
I'm having trouble off hand thinking of an example, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it done. Perhaps in particular with devices using new OSes. Anyway, who knows what their reasons are. Maybe they just want to make as many new devices for sale as possible, on initial release, and will deal with the devs later. Maybe the devs they most care about get free devices before any release happens anyway. My only point was that I don't see any harm in releasing a dev device first, as some were suggesting. I just wish they would eventually sell unlocked and unbranded versions of all the variants of a device, through some direct mechanism (but I'm not holding my breath).
[One (M7) General] ThePhoneGeek:
Agreed. In the end if the biggest manufacturers quit bending over to the carriers and sell devices direct as well as through carriers then the consumer could choose what route they wanted to go and everyone would be happy...

No such luck.

MG
[One (M7) General] crawlgsx:
Unfortunately your average Joe consumer isn't willing to pay retail for their phone. Most people I talk to when I tell them a phone is $500+ dollars they think I am insane. They respond with something like "I Can get an iPhone for $199.99". Then I have to explain to them that that is with a subsidy yada-yada, and when I tell them the retail price of an iPhone they are just baffled. Many of your average consumers can't afford or won't pay full retail for a phone. There are a lot of us that will of course, but that isn't the masses and gives the carriers quite a bit of power.
[One (M7) General] AndroidDude11:
Surprisingly the HTC One isn't as expensive as I have thought.. but I can't understand why the deivce isn't going to Verizon!
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Because verizon wants it to be their own phone, meaning they want it black and red and droid branding

One of the reasons I left Verizon
[One (M7) General] Nekromantik:
I wonder how long it will take the Devs to get SOff on the One.

Thats the only difference between the dev and sim free versions as far as Im aware.

Correct me if Im wrong though.
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
The dev version is not s-off, per the htc blog.
[One (M7) General] Pons:
Verizon HTC One Release No Longer Denied by HTC
[One (M7) General] Wasuhz:
Id be willing to help you'd just have to pay for shipping and total cost...

id help out if u needed but you would have to pay for included shipping..
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
So do we know if the dev edition is gonna be available to purchase the same day as AT&T & Sprint (the 19th) or if it will be later? Also, will there be a pre-order for it? I haven't heard anything about it recently.
[One (M7) General] SysAdmNj:
Who was going to get this model?
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
It was supposed to be sold directly by HTC via their dev site to customers located in the US.
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
They have replied via twitter that an update on ordering the dev version will be coming soon. Not sure what their definition of soon is, however.

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One correction, they said it would be available via the online U.S. store, not the developer site.
[One (M7) General] mrfriday2010:
Its already up there; however, you cant order it.

http://shopamerica.htc.com/homebrands/index.htm
[One (M7) General] bugsy:
They just posted on the blog page that they are working to confirm if it will be available for pre-order at the same time as the carrier phones. Hopefully we'll have an update in the morning.

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Also, interesting to see that they have an unlocked 32GB listed for sale as well.
[One (M7) General] Pr20:
Yeah clicking on the buy now link asks for username and password.
[One (M7) General] krzysiekh:
thank you, since we won't be having a 64GB version available up here, I'll probably take you up on the offer, but i have to figure out a few things first.
[One (M7) General] insomnia:
So the link to order the developer edition directly from HTC has not gone live yet?
[One (M7) General] Goozy:
Depending on your proximity to the border, you might be able to just ship it to a PO box and pick it up. I live in Vancouver and I get stuff shipped to mailboxes Int'l in Blaine (http://www.mbistore.com) all the time.

From your sig I see that you are located in Edmonton but I'm sure there is an equivalent service on the US side of Edmonton (Montana?). Otherwise some of these parcel receiving services also offer parcel forwarding where they ship the parcel to you. You should look into it...
[One (M7) General] SteelH:
no dev edition for Sprint.
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Ditto,

Actually we have it even better. A gas station across the border allows Canadians to order things using his address...no p.o. an actual zip! You just call with your name after you order, he calls when your order is delivered, show I.D., pay a $5 "fee" and off you go. I use this "service" all the time, advantages of a border town!

Depending on the Telus device balance and three year contract price......$650 for an unlocked, off contract 64gb version with all the proper bands might be a steal.
[One (M7) General] expertzero1:
Oh also the developer edition is on preorder tomorrow morning at htc.com, click the shop button.
[One (M7) General] skg22086:
i dont see any info on it..?
[One (M7) General] @home:
Why is this available for the UK.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] stratatak7:
Remarkable work. Thanks so much for your contribution.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] upndwn4par:
7th !!!

Can you make me a flashable zip? :eek:

_______

Seriously though, very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Will be doing this soon....
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] 315phatboi:
need help

i can not find the folder to exact that file to can some one tell where it is please and thank u
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] enewman17:
Not trying to insult you, please do not take this the wrong way. But if you need to ask that question then this thread is not for you. This will require editing smali, and xml. It is not a drag and drop type of mod.

Besides in the directions he had told you exactly where it goes.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Idyar:
You are the man I have had to build 2 systemui for every build this will save me a tonne of work.

Thanks again, I think our ROM is like 50% mods by you at this point lol.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Idyar:
Just wanted to add a silly mistake I made while putting this in. When searching for the correct value in public.xml make sure you use brightness_controller not brightness_controller_height (LOL) Took me like 15 mins to figure out haha.

Thanks again Loser, you are exactly the kind of person that makes this community great.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] upndwn4par:
If you are not using the 23 toggle mod, makeStatusBarView needs to look like this (add the code in red).

smali/com/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar.smali

.method protected makeStatusBarView

.line 733
iget-object v9, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mScrollView:Landroid/widget/ScrollView;

const/4 v10, 0x0

invoke-virtual {v9, v10}, Landroid/widget/ScrollView;->setVerticalScrollBarEnabled(Z)V

[COLOR="Red"] iget-object v9, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mStatusBarWindow:Lcom/androidsystemustatusbar/phone/StatusBarWindowView;

const v10, 0x7f0d00e4 #Match with res/values/public.xml - brightness_controller

invoke-virtual {v9, v10}, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBarView;->findViewById(I)Landroid/view/View;

move-result-object v9

check-cast v9, Landroid/widget/LinearLayout;

iput-object v9, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mBrightnessSlider:Landroid/widget/LinearLayout;

iget-object v9, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/SystemUI;->mContext:Landroid/content/Context;

invoke-virtual {v9}, Landroid/content/Context;->getContentResolver()Landroid/content/ContentResolver;

move-result-object v9

const-string v10, "display_brightness_slider"

invoke-static {v10}, Landroid/provider/Settings$System;->getUriFor(Ljava/lang/String;)Landroid/net/Uri;

move-result-object v10

const/4 v11, 0x0

iget-object v12, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mBrightnessSliderObserver:Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar$BrightnessSliderObserver;

invoke-virtual {v9, v10, v11, v12}, Landroid/content/ContentResolver;->registerContentObserver(Landroid/net/Uri;ZLandroid/database/ContentObserver;)V

iget-object v10, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mBrightnessSlider:Landroid/widget/LinearLayout;

iget-object v9, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/SystemUI;->mContext:Landroid/content/Context;

invoke-virtual {v9}, Landroid/content/Context;->getContentResolver()Landroid/content/ContentResolver;

move-result-object v9

const-string v11, "display_brightness_slider"

const/4 v12, 0x0

invoke-static {v9, v11, v12}, Landroid/provider/Settings$System;->getInt(Landroid/content/ContentResolver;Ljava/lang/String;I)I

move-result v9

const/4 v11, 0x1

if-ne v9, v11, :cond_bright

const/4 v9, 0x0

:goto_bright
invoke-virtual {v10, v9}, Landroid/widget/LinearLayout;->setVisibility(I)V[/COLOR]

.line 735
new-instance v9, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar$MyTicker;

iget-object v10, p0, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;->mStatusBarView:Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBarView;

invoke-direct {v9, p0, v1, v10}, Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar$MyTicker;-><init>(Lcom/android/systemui/statusbar/phone/PhoneStatusBar;Landroid/content/Context;Landroid/view/View;)V
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] enewman17:
This was a doosy, but this really makes a perfect edition to total customization. I love this along with Didact74 battery mod. You've made so many happy with your work. And I'm so proud of myself I actually got it right the first time. I'm grinning ear to ear man. :D I'm starting to understand the language better. Still a ways off from doing something like this myself but one mod at a time right.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] loserskater:
You should have seen my grin when I got it working. It makes me so happy when it works out. And it's even better seeing people enjoy using it.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] zubrug:
Really appreciate the lessons. :thumbup:
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Peaster111:
This mod is the bomb. It works awesome. I love it. The time you spent figuring it out, then to share the "how to" is awesome. A very rare quality. Very nice... Thanks
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] JoeyDuran:
will this work for the sprint version? i tried everything youve said step by step, and i get and error...
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] loserskater:
Post your DisplaySettings.smali

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] JoeyDuran:
Okay, I'll put it up first thing after work

The smali before editing it or after?

Sent from an Anthrax infected GSIII