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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
While the GS4 looks pretty cool and has some neat features it also looks like it is doing to much on the software side of things...and has a bunch of crap I would never use. Never the less it is a cool phone but at the end of the day I love my nexus 4 and stock android...besides who knows what KLP might offer...which won't be on the GS4 until the next version of android is about to be out.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bundi22:
Never!!!

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Atruss12:
Nope. Samsung is turning into an apple company, and will not be a part of that.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the1onewolf:
ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME ME!

This phone sucks

It's so terrible.

The battery life is terrible.

The form factor sucks.

The camera sucks.

I experience galaxy class envy.

My sense of self worth and my tiny ego is deflated by me holding this phone in public.

The dilithium chamber isn't as powerful as the new generation of the upcoming galaxy class.

The class six torpedoes are just a gimmick that don't really do anything.

Tricolbot devices are obsolete.

The bio neural circuitry is sluggish.

No I'm just kidding.

I hate buying phones from the carrier and being locked on a two year contract. I really really really really really really hate US carriers (monopolistic twats)

I hate buying phones that have regionally differences and a dozen different regional variants. I hate buying phones that eventually devalue and then become free (with a two year contract of course) over the course of 4-7 months.

So I really love my nexus 4.

O and I bought an Iphone 5 specifically to unlock and sell >:). I used that money to buy a nexus 4 and 10.

So I really really love the nexus devices :)

FREEDOM BABY.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
Galaxy S4 is a big fail and a major letdown/dissapointment imo. Besides a few extra gimmics, a larger screen it is no big improvement even compared to the S3.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EddyOS:
I'm more inclined to get the HTC One than the S4, but I won't be getting either as the Nexus 4 is more than enough for me until 4G becomes the norm here in the UK...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Try4Ce:
I would never sacrifice the open system and pure google experience for just another baby candy looking piece of plastic.

The S4 holds a great amount of hardware power and features some nifty tricks, but thats not enough anymore. Third Party Developer Frameworks ala HTC Sense or TouchWiz are a real pain in the arse after you experiencend a pure google phone without any extra ressources clutching up your memory and bandwidth.

Google's Holo design really stands out, even looks better than the actually pretty nice Sense 5 interface.

The Galaxy S4 really doesnt fulfill my needs anymore. It looks cheap, is completely out of plastic and looks like a Galaxy S3-S ...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syamilsatanick:
Hell no. Im only giving this baby up when new nexus is out
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] calanizzle:
Nexus 5 will replace my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tory13579:
Like most everyone else. My next phone will be the Nexus 5. The only thing I want from the S4 is the 1080p screen just to say I have it but I can wait till November to get it. My 8gb is perfect and with PA its even better.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icecicle:
I'd developed all those gimmicks for my nexus before I buy an s4 and I'm not even a developer boooom
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
I don't plan on changing phone till my N4 breaks because I genuinely cannot see any situation where the hardware or software won't be up to scratch in the near future. The GS4 was a pretty huge disappointment for me and I have to say that this time around HTC have done a better job than Samsung. Sense is lighter than ever before and more fluid, the One's design is unbeatable (although I'm not a huge fan of the lack of multitasking button and resultant off-centre home button) and the hardware is easily up to scratch.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nkawal:
Agreed. I gave my GF my Brand New GS3 and bought the Nexus 4. Love PA ROM on it (PIE is the future) . Was waiting to see the GS4 and it can stay right there. All i need is a better camera on the Nexus 4. The Nexus 5 will have that and probably LTE. Sticking to Vanilla Android for a while, although the HTC One is a beautiful device.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mako321:
Honestly, my only problem with the s4 is the pentile amoled screen. It's 2013, I shouldn't have to worry about screen burn in anymore or a lack of sub pixels. When Samsung finality switches to anything but, maybe I'll consider an s5 or whatever comes next.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PcFish:
If I were to picked a locked phone I'd want HTC One over the s4. s3 to s4 wasn't much of an upgrade, akin to iphone 4s to 5. I had a stale reaction to the s4, not to mention the plastic body. I prefer Sense over Touchwiz if I didn't have stock. It's just better looking IMO.

The One, on the other hand, it looks like a future phone. The phone starts off as a solid aluminum block and goes through hundreds of passes on a cnc machine.

Just beautiful detail on it. Also, it has a friggin IR Blaster. You can use your phone as a remote control for your TV. I had fun with this back in the day on my old phone.

But ultimately, if the rumors about the Google X phone are true, that's what I'm getting.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RossMacgill:
na love my Nexus 4 and quite disappointed seeing the S4, as they have only really refreshed it, still feels/looks cheap.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djwyman:
If my nexus 4 wasn't a choice...the HTC one seems to me to be the better of the 2 new flagship phones...the front speakers seem like an awesome idea and from the videos I have seen of people playing with the s4 it was so bloated it lagged...I did not see one single feature in it that I want or can't get already...I mean hell they made translate out to be this new thing...but we all know Google has had that as an app for a long time that does that same thing...and why the hell do I need to have health stuff baked into my phone? If I want stuff like that I should have the option to just download it...the whole idea of the front camera watching my face makes me a little paranoid... When would I ever want to connect 5 phones to play the same song? Why not just plug one phone to your surround sound system? And the whole no touch stuff seems like more of a problem than a solution... I can see it moving stuff around while I am doing something like scratching an itch or something... As far as the camera tricks go cool but it is missing the coolest camera trick which is photosphere the rest I am sure some 3rd party app could make possible.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] knitler:
I saw the S4 announcement and then today went and bought an N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Deekenhoof:
Yes

After Google told me today that the Nexus 4's BT problems aren't they're responsibility, but mine? Hell yes.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 20degrees:
0 bt problems and use mine daily with 2 devices. Maybe it's the device?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikzDHD:
I'd rather take the HTC One over the SGS4,but come May/June we will be on the next version of Android whilst those devices as good as they are will still lag behind in software terms. Nexus 4 is still lovely and I'm looking forward to May and the possibilities of the X Phone before I even decide anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zoner1981:
Sv: Who is dumping the N4 for the galaxy s4?

No!

Why? Touchwiz, that's why. Old outdated look, reminds me of Android 2 or older. No way.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aimetti:
Gs4 no way. HTC one I'm contemplating. I loved my one x much more than my gs3.

Overall the nexus 4 is my favorite but I can't stand all the WiFi issues. Its absolutely pathetic. Over 1300 posts on my Google issues post and all they have to say is pending "future release". Oh and by the way, that was 3 months ago.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyokeun1234:
That octa core is tempting but I bet the next nexus will have that too so I'm not that interested in s4 and its fancy touchwiz.

Also switching from n4 to s4 is a huge loss to me :p lol
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] golfinggino:
Hells yeah - love the nexus 4 but will get an international version of the s4 as fast as I can to hold me over until the note 3 is released :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Semetery:
I intend to stick with my N4 for a good while. I came to it from the Motorola Triumph on Virgin Mobile and, suffice to say, it was an extreme upgrade. I don't deny that there will be newer phones continuously making me want to leap but I'm tired of constantly chasing the new best just to be out of money and out of date, quickly. Haha.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MrBelter:
I would rather stick pins in my eyes than own an S4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] octaviogs5:
I love my N4...As many People here said... 16GB is good enough though. You can use Dropbox as an alternate which can give up to 50GB if sync your Android phone with it. I have a 50GB Dropbox account and have everything sync on it.

Cheers
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DespairFactor:
Dropbox never gave me that!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikzDHD:
Dropbox is good I've got 76.5Gb, backs up all my photos and various apps backing up to it. Accessible from most devices and everything syncs well.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samcrocr:
Good luck with your career branded Galaxy S 4 Personally, I hate waiting for the latest android update. It took painful nine months to push the ICS update to my Galaxy s II and I certainly don't want to go through that again. This is my first nexus and i love it... In my honest opinion current generation phones are not made to play graphic intensive games.. When we get 5000 mAh batteries I will consider playing those kinds of games in my phone.Until then I'm good with my PS 3
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] algus:
S4 has so little left of android that I'd better buy iphone. Great hardware and features, but so much proprietary ugly bloatware, including touchwiz, makes it unusable for me. And custom roms will have a hard time too because hardware-wise its even worse for developers and most of them considered s3 their last samsung phone. Samsung doesn't care. So do I about s4. HTC One is so much better. Its a pity that 95% of customers will buy what's mainstream and won't even know how bad and ugly experience they have and how much better options are available. Samsung can become a great company if it does two things: an option to have clean andriod on its phones and disclose full technical information, drivers and sourcecodes do custom rom developers. Or loose. Because those 5% who are aware and are on the edge of new technologies set future mainstream trends.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beall49:
I doubt I ever buy another subsidized phone. I just think it's a waste now...there's no reason too....especially when you have to deal with Touchwiz...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rotusrotus:
Not me :o I love the N4 - vanilla android, great battery life (after 4.2.2), great display plus 16 GB works great for me. Anything else in a larger form factor would be overkill for me
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Note_2:
I really love how the N4 is so cheap but competes with most higher end phones. I have the note 2 and love the big display, but that's not what I would miss most if I got the N4. I can't get over the fact that the menu and back buttons are on the display. I like my physical buttons but have never had these buttons just in the display so maybe it's in my head.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] n1ggyn1ce:
Lemme just say that the S3 is a great phone and currently the king of android. However, by not reinventing the design of the S4, it actually makes the whole Galaxy line look cheap. Nowadays, specs are not enough, the phone must have a premium feel since we treat it like an accessory/jewelry. That's why I skipped the Galaxy Nexus in favor of LG's glass N4. The S4 will still sell a boatload for the general masses at walmart.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
Samsung realy needs to redo Touchwizz. I hate those big outdated icons and they should give more options to change the UI apearance, like for instance more rows,columns, add apps and widgets by pressing the screen etc etc. And imo the price is too high for the device, pre-order listing price is 699 euro`s in the Netherlands, that`s crazy.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevemw:
NOT. ME.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nikzDHD:
Why change a popular design though look at the iPhone, big example of a phone that has similar looks to the previous gen but sells in big numbers. By Samsung keep a similar design this will still carry that brand forward, it's an Apple type move, where as HTC continue to impress the One X was fantastic as a plastic devices but now aluminium it looks even better, but as mentioned it still won't sell as good as the Samsung due to advertising and marketing as Apple and Samsung have the money to push their devices. It's a mainstream device now and the galaxy brand no denying is the biggest android brand, good for Android in a sense.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyraelasd:
I think no one who own a N4 would even think on changing it for a S4. Really, it's all about the nexus ecosystem.

pd. I would never give my money to a company that in its S4 presentation didn't even mention that the device is running android, wich is basically the most important thing of it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Girn:
Some of the features would be nice to have. That's the problem with vanilla android, it's nice and all but very basic
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Nigeldg:
Sure, it would be nice to have some of the features, but to me the vast majority of them are just gimmicks and nothing more. They're definitely not a good justification for the ugliness of TouchWiz IMO.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shadehh:
So guys... What is all this talk about Google and Samsung. Samsung demanded to get more out of Google, but what exactly? I just know I've read or heard that Google doesn't like the way Samsung is expanding and thinks it can demand more from Google. This being the real reason behind the x phone. Samsung is becoming too strong in the android market. Don't get me wrong, the s4 is a great phone.. But alone the fact that we have the fastest updates, possibly best Roms , there is no reason for the switch. I love the phone, nothing tops the price/ performance ratio either. Keep it up Google :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
People always refer as Touchwizz and Sense beeing shells/layers implemented over android, this is not entirely true. TW and Sense are basicaly modified versions of the original android rom. Launchers from Play like Nova/Apex etc etc however can be called shells.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cgulliver:
AOSP all the way for me. I also am not ever going to subsidize a phone again and not about to plunk down 600–800 bucks on one.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slinky1914:
My Lord it will have so much bloatware on it that it will drive most of us nuts. The hardware that's coming to the states isn't much different. Besides the 5 inch screen. Nope I'm not going anywhere till the next nexus.

Sent using Nexus 4 on Go Smart Mobile
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bzh2610:
I keep my Nexus !

The Nexus 4 is the best phone i ever had. The storage doesn't really matter for me : the Nexus stores about 250 apps, 100 songs it's enought for me. The tech specs are not really different, but the price won't be the same. I'm not ready to spend 200 or 300$ more for external storage.

Finally, my Nexus is prettier than the gs4 :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tyraelasd:
Really? Well, it's valid. I don't see myself using any of the gimicky features that they shown off on stage. The only thing that cought my attention was the camera quality that I saw in hands-on videos, that is pretty impressive indeed.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wardy01:
Well funny this thread comes up.

I originally had a one x for 2 months then moved to the s3 had for 3 months and then brought my nexus 4. I rooted all 3 straight out the box and have loved them all.

I am now going to upgrade my Voda UK contract upon release of the s4 and go for that until the next nexus is out.

This is the longest I have kept a phone (had since launch) n4).

Storage is OK for me along with the battery and signal is all perfect.

Only reason I am moving the s4 is because ....

I am after a larger screen (not note 2 size tho)

More memory due to work now

Bigger battery to keep me on the go (work related)

Other minor benefits to me

Camera quality

SD card swap outs

Few new s features will come in handy to me.

Albeit the s4 is not a major enhancement I feel all the bad press and so forth is not needed. It comes packed with loads of features and spec. It has great screen quality (I know amoled is very oversaturated ) but thats just anal feelings....

Cheers

From a faux loving pie'd n4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] -Mindroid-:
My biggest grippe with the Nexus4 is the mediocre camera and the horrible implementation for

audio recording. But I don't feel like spending $600 to get another phone that does them right.

The best thing the Nexus4 has going for itself is the price. I will wait until a there is a similarly priced

contender. Maybe while I'm waiting the audio recording will get fixed and somebody will calibrate the

camera with less noise. There simply aren't any good midrange phones on the market right now.

There are high-range phones for $600 and then there are 480x640, 5MP camera low-end phones for $300.

A real competition for the Nexus4 would be the SGS3 selling for $300 and the Oppo Find5 coming

down to $400. But if money was no object I would be buying the latest flagship every 3 months

from any brand, why not?
[Ouya General] rushless:
Curious will we be able to use the market and use current apps (that would work with the interface)? I already have all the Gameloft games and others and have no desire to have to repurchase those, the GTA games, Cave shooters, purchased emulators, etc.

If it is exclusive content specific, I will just stick with the Excite 7.7 and its media dock that provides similar function already. Would like the OUYA for another room, but not if buying my same games again.
[Ouya General] eksasol:
It's supposed to have support for the Play Store which mean you can login your Google account and download all your purchased games.

This is not the same as the Ouya store which is separate as far as I know.

Sent from XDA app
[Ouya General] Conjukt:
This would be a good thing to have, much like owning a PS3 and a 360, which system do you buy the new game for cause otherwise you are paying twice for the same game. Even though the games though the play store are not that expensive paying for the same thing twice sucks.
[Ouya General] raptir:
They have actually specifically announced that the Ouya will not support Play Store games.

http://www.ouya.tv/faq/#12

There is a (good, IMO) chance that developers will be able to bring Play Store support to rooted Ouyas. However, the CEO stated previously that rooted Ouyas will not have access to the Ouya store. This was back in July though, so their stance could have changed since then.

That said, you would only really be able to play games that currently support a Bluetooth controller.
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
The thing on the rooted devices, to some degree, is counter to what they said in making the device open. Heck, they said people will be alloed to root without voiding the warranty. Yet, you can't access the store if you do. I understand the concern especially in regards to piracy. Personally, I don't think being rooted really makes it that much significant to get and use pirated games.

As to games you have already purchased, you can probably just side load them. Use something like ApkExtractor on your android with the game to get the game. You're just not going to have any of your saved games. If the root thing doesn't hold true, then you can probably use Titanium Backup to get it on your device.

With all that said, as raptir implies, not many games in the Google Play support gamepads. And the touch input on the Ouya controller is probably going to be limited, which may make trying to play something like Angry Birds very difficult.
[Ouya General] Frag1le:
Damn really, they advertise with the device being completely open but then block the Ouya store if you root it?

A deal breaker imo.

Then again, i wonder how the Ouya store will handle temporary unroots like you can with SuperSU.

Temp unroot ->use the store to install something -> root again.
[Ouya General] lovekeiiy:
I didn't think about SuperSU or Voodoo RootKeeper. If it's true about the root thing, then the above and prior would be excellent ideas.

Like many here, some must have apps require root, so it's a bit of a harsh reality to realize Ouya is being root unfriendly, per se.
[Ouya General] bigd5783:
Wait. So they are basically saying root and you dont have access to games or dont root and dont have access to custom roms and such. They are just going to drive people to piracy. I want root as well as games. The main thing I want to run on this is emulators and XBMC but if there are some good games out there I would spend a few bucks to buy them but not if I have to unroot this thing so I can buy them. I want the ability to over clock this. It has a heat sync and should run smooth at higher clock speeds and you have to have root to do this. I was thinking very seriously about getting one of these for my mother and for my grandmother as a Hulu, Netflix, digital movie device but If this is the case forget about it.
[Ouya General] rushless:
If you can not use Play, this makes more sense for their model, but seems they will lose as many customers as they gain with this approach. I think most people will naturally assume you can use the Play Store, since this is an Android device. It could end up most of the people that buy this will be the rooting crowd, but that will not support an economy of scale model, or an app model for revenue. Most people do not root their devices, so a very contrained install base- especially if even the rooters are locked out of a store.

The returns of this product could be high. You could point out the Kindle and Nook, but even those devices are hurting with constrained markets- especially the Nook which is expected to end after this year. Different devices also.

I really think there are a lot more people like me that will not want to buy their games again than there are that would. So the device is $100, but new controllers are $50 and you need to buy games that only work this one Android device.... Speaking of contollers, have they set those up as well so only their controller works? Why would they NOT do that, based on the app store premise, else people would pay $20 and $30 for already proven controllers.

I still wish the Ouya success, but seems they could have some consumer perception hurdles to get past. Since my desire is zero to buy apps just for one Android device, this will end my negative points, else become a troll or something. :cyclops: Not buying this or any other Android device that forces to an exclusive device and rebuy stuff. Well, I say that now, but could see this as a MAME cabinet down the road in a Tegra 4 version :) Assuming MAMEReloaded is an install option....