yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ohiog:
In terms of smoothness, how would you guys describe this ROM.

Also Jester how come you decided on a de-sensed rom over an AOSP build
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cujo6801:
it's this smooth

http://youtu.be/149jGeIlx3I?t=19s
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Good to know, Santod. Very true, when rooted, not difficult to remove anything you want through apps, I was mainly talking about uninstalling through android's app settings. After thinking about the nice slew of roms you had up for grabs over there, I went with NuSenseX because I like the look and feel of Sense (and kind of missed it after about a year on Twisted's Liquid ICS), and come on, it's Sense 4, that's sick. So I was expecting more bulk in the file size, and the user interface, but I realize that Sense 4 was not designed for the Thunderbolt and its hardware, and vice versa.

Agreed, this is way off topic, I'll direct any further questions/concerns/comments to the infected forums.

Very smooth and stable. Daily driver smooth and stable (especially if we can get wifi-tethering to work).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Lmao! Good answer. That was inevitable :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
The AOSP Status Bar and Settings Mods aren't even from Santod's Rom. I got those from this rom when the leak was released and me and another person made a desensed rom but I found them here in this thread and I gave them to SPJester the other day. Shnizlon should be credited with these mods.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] santod040:
I don't really care where you guys get your mods from and I think Jester already said he use an old one that's been around a while.

I don't believe it was Shnizlon, I believe it was Turge that actually did the initial porting of the settings for Sense roms, and they were made for an Evo3D Senseless rom.

That wasn't the point in what was being discussed, so it would be great if you could mind yours so that I will go back to minding mine.

They obviously aren't exactly the same since they can't be booted on this rom as default.

These XDA antics are really lame and why you don't see my threads here.

I already said I would rather not further hijack this thread, so please do the same out of respect for everyone else.

By the way LINK: Putting others people's work into a zip and calling it a rom, isn't really making a rom. (just so you are aware of where you are coming from)

I don't hold a lot of respect for you or jacob after his feable attempts and ridiculous way of handling things, yes I said that.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Link_of_Hyrule:
Well that's all I have to say about that. The fact of matter is it doesn't really matter that you don't need to give permission for mods you didn't make. We all work hard trying to get our own ideas to work in roms and things would be much better if we all just said hey I did something similar this is how I did it instead of your rom is the same as mine and mine is better you should use it. I have much respect for every dev here at xda and hope in the future we can work together instead of against each other. Well I'll give JPJester back his thread now.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] santod040:
The spice of life: VARIETY

Who the hell wants 10 of the same rom????????????

Yes, moving along now....

My ****ING power menu also has a brightness bug I need to fix.

Make and fix your own bugs and tweaks! Blow off!

We are not all working on one rom.

Try telling someone from Team Viper or many other Dev Teams that they should give you their mods to use.

Try it...

I posted the ones I made for the leak, maybe they won't kill your data connection too bad using the old mods, go for it!!!

I posted them FOR EVERYONE!!!!

Do I suggest using these mods on the new base?

No I do not, may as well run the leak then, but go right ahead, enjoy and quit whining at me.

I barely have time to make all the mods and roms I have made, let alone writing tutorials for it all.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mobitote:
n00b here joining the fray... My understanding having tried both mods they are on 1% incr. vs htc's 5%. Is there a way to get the mods to sync with HTC's? When the batt level gets down to about 20% the mods do not sync with the actual % level on the phone
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
That's the kernel... You have to wait.

And on another note all this fighting can get up off my thread thank you.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] facted:
This is the thing I miss the most from some of the other ROM's out there. Being able to swipe along the statusbar to change the brightness in sunny conditions where you can't see the dim screen is super easy and convenient!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
I know I have been trying to get the quick settings to work but sense ignores me
[Thunderbolt Android Development] mobitote:
[SP]jester tried reflashing both the single sense mods downloads and the other double zip still no dice. I still get system ui fail. I am willing to give it a shot if you still got something else you wanna try.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pstrang:
No luck with GPS in this ROM.

Installed 1.12 with wiping Data, System, Cache, Dalvik. Rebooted. Flashed AOSP mod.

Updated OTA to 1.15 this morning (have *not* flashed the AOSP yet). No GPS. No Fix. No status bar icon.

I've always had good luck with GPS on my tbolt. All the dozens of ROMs I've flashed over the years, while others had problems, I never did. This is the first ROM without GPS for me. And yes, GPS is enabled.

Thanks for your efforts!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Well umm thats the stock gps file. Not sure why so many having problems. Are you using clockworkmod...............
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pstrang:
4ext.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cabatex:
AOSP Phone

Jester just put the Rom on looking good. Can you put the AOSP phone on this? Thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
I'll try, but see the phone controls the call screen also. I'll see what i can do
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Almaretto:
Running smoothly. GPS, MMS, FC, etc all work.

I tried to restore messages with Backup to Gmail and did not work past January. No problems in past.

I lost ability to switch input keyboard to T9; I was using Official Thunderbolt ICS before.

The battery % on GreenPower, Status Bar, and Rings Digital Weather Widget all say different values.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] gemro311:
Sorry ...I had the same issue when trying to adjust sound volumes:confused::confused::confused:

Sent from Oldie but goody Smartphone !
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ronald027:
wow fast update..hope to have our kernel code so we can develop more of our bolt...any news for that kernel code??
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cnshough:
I'm having the dame problem as someone on page 5 was having. Constant reboots after flashing, before it boots up completely. I wiped, reset,wiped again,flashed,wiped,reset,and then booted. It still does it. Any ideas? Using TWRP
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Did you update your radio...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cnshough:
In did but haven't tried since. Is that the problem?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Yep that is 100% your problem. It was probably me who you're referring to, and yeah I was having the same exact problem. Do you know how to flash a radio correctly? If so, make sure your on the uncompressed radio (you can get it from Santod's thread, that's where I got mine), completely wiped, then flash only the . 12 base, and then reboot. Should fix all your problems.

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Try wiping, flashing the uncompressed official ICS radio, and then try flashing the base and updating to .15

However, I will say gps wasn't working for me today. Last time it worked for me on this rom, I hadn't flashed the aosp bar and settings, so that might have something to do with it. I think though that it was a one time thing. I'll try it again later.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cnshough:
yeah, worked great. Is there still no fix for the settings FC's yet?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Nope not yet. Though like some others mentioned, brightness is better adjusted from the quick settings anyways, and they gave us hardware volume keys for a reason (bug fixes, of course, are welcome though).
[Thunderbolt Android Development] cnshough:
Yeah, but if I remember correctly, personalize is where I could go in and add battery percentage to the lockscreen.

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So, I found an app that puts percentage in the status bar. That will work for now.

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About the battery. My indicator doesn't seem to be working right. It is only changing in increments of 10. When I first installed the rom, it was at 60. It stayed there for hours before going to 50. Now it's at 40 but my battery widget is at 33.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Yea its the way its being reported. Its the kernels fault
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Familyguy1:
Hmm. My battery seems to be doing fine . I like where I can finally just have it show the percentage (no percent sign on keyboard? Weird). Sometimes mine fluctuates, but it seems to be going down by 1percent increments, except when im watching a video, then it seems to go down by 10.

Btw: What does that DNS Changer do?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pstrang:
No luck. Installed the uncompressed files. No change to my baseband versions.

Wiped *everything*, installed the 1.12 base, installed the .15 update. Turned on GPS location services, but still no GPS. :(

[SP]Jester: want logcat?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] facted:
Since installing .15, I also have on GPS. Using both navigation or "GPS Status", neither one seems to "load" my GPS signal. THere is no indication in the status bar that GPS is searching for a signal. I'm running AOSP statusbar, but I did manage to get GPS working ok prior to .15.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pstrang:
Hey Jester, if it helps, MaceksMod Mecha Rebirth has GPS working in the sense style and the AOSP style UI. :good:
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Yeah, you know what, I have a feeling that something in the AOSP flash screwed it up, I can't get anything out of my gps either. It was working great when I had the Sense bar and settings. Obviously it's not inherently the aosp itself, since like he just said, Jacob's aosp gps works, and Twisted's rom, which I was on forever, worked great with gps.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Yea im probably just gonna collab with him and we go from there. Hopefully same features if not more
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ViperZ28:
First off, great work on this ROM, everything seems to work and it is pretty smooth. One issue that I am having, I use my phones alarm in the morning and in order to hit snooze ;) I have to enter my pin. Is there any way to fix this?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Lol dont put a pin?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Guys i also suggest that if you want a more AOSP feel, MaceksMod released a new rom today, i already ported a addon pack and everything for it. Check it out!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2195498

my post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39281532&postcount=27
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Wish you had a working bolt jester, I know this would be as flawless as bully if you did...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Yea i know :/ stupid sense settings are kickin my arse tho. lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Lol. Yeah, it can't be easy putting a rom together without owning the device yourself. I'd rather use a desensed creation of yours though, jmods run crazy smooth.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] warmonster:
????

So is ICE ICE BABY done? since spjester is working with maceksmod on his rom?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
It runs, its just sense. Not much else that can be done at the time. It ignores my editing
[Thunderbolt Android Development] je2854:
Have you ever tried to flash some new radios? That happened to me and did some research. Flashed new ones and it fixed it.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Yeah, I figured this out a while ago, but I appreciate your help! It was the radios, in fact, just had to flash the new ics ones.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] sgt. slaughter:
Thread closed for now...

Once the OP makes their own base to use this will re open or a new one will be created...
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ronald027:
so the fix will come soon enough..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Yessir, Just want it to be a complete rom on release, so i can start using OTA Updater to fix small things, not have a borked install

Now people who want that Sense feel can keep it, those that want the AOSP feel can use that also.

I couldnt decompile the Settings.apk so i cant add my stuff to the sense one, i hate sense lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ronald027:
ok sir good luck to your ROM..will wait to your mods and tweak..
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grneyedbrotha:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Where is the link to download the ROM? All I have found is a download for the patch.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] facted:
Thanks jester for the new work! Can't wait to give it a shot!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ohiog:
He pulled it for a fix.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
ITS UP!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Awesome! DLing now. BTW, Bluetooth file transfer is listed twice in your "included apps list" in the OP.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grneyedbrotha:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Is the patch still needed with the latest update?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
No... Just go from what the OP says
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
So whats the feedback so far... LOL

Just treated myself to 3 sausage egg n cheese McMuffins for finishing this, I think ima be sick LOL
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grneyedbrotha:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

I'm giving this a whirl. I have a question, will this eventually get the ASOP dialer and ASOP incoming call screen?

This runs smooth. Its kind of freakish how smoothly it flows. :)
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
I really hate "downloading now" and "installing now" posts since they're basically useless information and just clutter up a thread, but since you asked....

Installing now.

Let you know something in a little while.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Possibly, but thats a little complicated at this time lol
[Thunderbolt Android Development] biggins82786:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Any reason why when I installed this the settings menu was nowhere to be found? Full wipe and install using 4EXT.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grneyedbrotha:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

I really like this, although I missed having the appointments from my calendar and weather displayed on the lock screen as with Twisted and of course the ASOP dialer and incoming call screen.

It's s hard choice; will probably have to go back and forth between the two.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Probably the old file?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

I'll have to see what I can come up with
[Thunderbolt Android Development] grneyedbrotha:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Don't get me wrong. This is SWEET!!!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] biggins82786:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

What do you mean? Is there a newer download than in the OP or am I supposed to be flashing this over something?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] ang1dust:
Any problems so far?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

1.12 is the one u need... If u didn't read and flashed the aosp mod after u flashed the ROM that's the reason why then... As it says clearly you need to boot up all the way the first time. Then do it. Or it won't work.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] RBarnett09:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Yes!! This is amazing!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] pstrang:
Whoa....437.20MB? How is this de-anythinged? :)

Thanks for your efforts!!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Its big. But its loaded. Not bloated. Lol great things come with great size haha.

Post some screenies guys show it off :) plus I'd like to see what I've done so far
[Thunderbolt Android Development] biggins82786:
Tried installing 3 times with no luck. Checked MD5 sums...fail. Re-downloaded. Works great!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] FirePsych:
Followed the directions in the OP and installed 1.12 without a problem.

Rebooted.

Set up my Google account, then installed the mods as per the OP.

No problems.

Humming away.

Some glitchiness in transitions, but that could be a matter of it settling in. I usually run with GPU enabled, but I disabled it to see if it helps.

I removed a lot of what I don't use and added my usual apps.

I haven't gone into all of the tweaks yet, but looking forward to giving them a try.

YouTube works, so I'm assuming other video apps work.

Haven't tried MMS yet.

Looking good!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Installed Rom. Let it boot, flashed mod package... Removed included apps, installed my own. No issues so far that I've noticed. I don't personally use Bluetooth nor have I sent or received any MMS since flashing, so I can't comment on those, but awesome so far! Rom runs SMOOTH! Thanks to [SP]jester for the excellent Rom and shocking return, and also to disconnecktie and link of hyrule for the testing.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Familyguy1:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Oh man, just at the right time since ICY-S closed. I'll try it out later when I get home. Thanks a bunch!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Wiped data and cache, installed without a hitch.

Tried booting 3 times, each time it crashed and turned completely off after the Thunderstorm intro.

Pulled the battery after it shut off for the 3rd time, booted back up, made it past the thunderstorm and it showed "Android is optimizing app ### out of 147". Got through all 147, then it finally got to the lock screen. It's been crashing in the HTC Setup Wizard ever since. I get one or two steps in maximum, and it quickly flashes a strange blue screen, and then reboots. Now it's rebooting even if I don't start the Setup Wizard, it'll get to the lock screen, blue screen, then reboot.

I have not installed the aosp patch yet, as instructed, because I haven't gotten a full boot yet (what I would call a full boot, where I finish the first time setup). So that's not my problem.

I'm gonna try wiping, redownloading, and reflashing. Any suggestions?

Michael
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Try redownloading and check your md5s
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fooshack:
ice

During the installation, should the version read "ICE ICE Baby V1.03"?

I just redownloaded and installed and that is what I am seeing?

thanks
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Yeah is said that for me too, I think Jester just forgot to update that text

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Alright tried again. Same exact issues as described before.

Any other thoughts?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

A different recovery maybe? And 1.03 I swore I changed it. Must be the lack of sleep
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

If you are having issues with installing and are using cwm. Do not talk to me.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
No luck. Thanks for all your work dude! I need to go back to my nandroid for the time-being so I can use my phone again. But when this is fully up and running I'll be back to give it another shot!

Michael
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Hmm not sure why u can't get it man. I heard someone was having probs on cwm flashing tho. But when has it ever worked right haha. Really strange tho
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
I'd recommend editing your OP so that you mention not to use CWM and change it to a recovery you support, currently it says use the recovery of your choice.

What recovery do you personally recommend?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] [SP]JESTER:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Well if your choosing to use a recovery from 2 years ago that doesn't support ext4 or anything recent. Go for it. It should work but as I said a year ago. Its crap on the bolt
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Familyguy1:
So, 4ext would be preferred? Thats what I am using now. Good to hear!
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Yeah I gotcha. Well I thought my phone was on ext4 by some of the folders I saw (I don't actually know what ext4 means), but anyways, I'm gonna install the latest twrp 2.4.4.0 thru goo once I get back to my backup. I'll try it again from that. Thanks for the suggestion.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Familyguy1:
4ext means this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=31966447

Its really streamlined and leagues ahead of twrp or cwm. Its touch as well, at least the few latest versions are. It also has an MD5 sum checker. Its not difficult to install and makes ROM installation incredibly easy.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] fooshack:
voicemail

Is there a way to change the voicemail number in this rom? I like to add in a couple pauses, my passcode, etc. I could find it in nusense and unsense but not this rom. Any help would be appreciated.

thanks

foos
[Thunderbolt Android Development] coltspackers:
Thanks, will try it out now, and then flash from there.
[Thunderbolt Android Development] Familyguy1:
"Wipe Data+Cache"

uhh do you mean Dalvik + Cache?
[Thunderbolt Android Development] quickdraw86:
Re: [ROM] ICE ICE BABY v1.12 / OTA (DESENSED) - SPJESTER PRODUCTION :)

Ext4 is a linux filesystem and has to do with how data writing is handled by the system, dependant on the kernel. The advantages of ext4 over ext3 is that ext4 is more reliable for large file sizes, writes data in contiguous (more efficient) extent blocks, pre allocates data to minimize data fragmentation and guarantee available space, and uses a delayed allocation algorithm to ensure files to be written are complete. Ext3 is the filesystem utilized by stock HTC roms. If supported by the kernel, ext3 is forwards compatible with ext4 (can be converted to ext4), but ext4 is only partially backwards compatible with ext3, conversion isn't possible if data is stored in extents, as that storage method isn't a capability of ext3.

4ext, on the other hand, developed by maddmaxx82, is the absolute best custom recovery available for the thunderbolt. 4ext crushes TWRP and especially CWM in terms of advanced features, UI, and overall reliability, it is also currently in development and frequently updated. Highly recommended.