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[Galaxy S 4 General] Baldilocks:
A few things have sealed the deal for me and here are some of the reasons while I will purchase the Galaxy S IV.

1. Physical home button. It just can't be beat. I'm glad they still see the need for one.

2. Larger/removable battery.

3. Easier to root.

4. Touchwiz can be completely frozen and I can use another launcher. With HTC you cannot turn off Sense.

5. It acts more like an Android device.

6. Slightly larger screen. At 440+ppi, pentile doesn't matter at all.

7. I've never been satisfied with HTC's cameras. The GSIII camera was excellent. No reason this one shouldn't be.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
oh my hahahahahahah

Edit: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ( I literally cannot stop laughing right now) HAHAHAHHAA
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
Come out of your mother's basement, kid.

Don't make stupid assumptions just because of his Beats avatar, it just makes me sick to the stomach .
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Glad to have you on board baldy!
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
When you are referring to PenTile, this is what GSMArena had to say:

Do you know that this is the only display which provides you so much options to change colour profile? AMOLED has higher colour gamut than normal LCD displays. This AMOLED screen used in GS4 is also the first to support Adobe RGB. So, when we compare against sRGB colour space, things will obviously be more saturated.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39327080

Livebytes moto^.. check that out.. and the poor person said it before cyanogen mod corrected that they will be announcements only after the device is available at retail.. troll failure at its best... like I said try harder kid... and I seriously doubt if you understood the joke.. :eek:

http://m.cnet.com/news/at-$236-galaxy-s4-costlier-to-produce-than-s3-says-report/57575143

Seems like S4's are 15 percent more expensive to produce that S3's...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Much better. Now if you can just work on the size. People viewing XDA natively on mobile devices are hating you. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
CM won't happen until Samsung gives out the proper documentation and sources.

So I still succeeded informing everyone of Samsung's horrible stance towards developers.

Try harder to make me fall. :eek::eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
ROFL. I know.. I cant even see the persons signature.. it doesnt take half a brain when you read the posts he/she posted on that cm page what the person was aiming for.. exactly at the 94th post..:rolleyes:

Lol@succeeded.. u really do try hard to succeed..wish you the very best at trolling.. I am not even trying or feeding you kid ..;)

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
From the Qualcomm Dev forum. I'm not a dev so can't say what Qualcomm's providing the dev community for Adreno 320 but if their open now it wasn't always the case. Maybe a real live dev can comment.

Developer: As a mobile devices enthusiast, I am here to ask Qualcomm to be a real community oriented company. You are well aware of hardware accelerated UI in newer versions of Android that rely heavily on GPU of device. As a user community, we have long stopped relying on HTC and Google to support the devices - this is now a community effort, that brings joy to millions, and is a true development pass time for many. Since hardware acceleration, many community projects depend on the missing the proprietary user space drivers, needed for the Hardware Acceleration to work. I believe it would be a great move for a company like Qualcomm to support advanced users and entusiast in their efforts I sincerely hope you will at least consider this request and decide to support the community - the same community that with their enthusiasm helped to make the smartphone market what it is today. Take into account that we do not ask for much, it just a set of compiled binaries that you surelly have already, or are easy for you to make. We do not expect you to support the release, or do bugfixes. It would be even better if you could supply the source code - but lets not push it too far :)​

Qualcomm: While an official response to a request like this won't be found in the community forums, I can acknowledge that we have seen your feedback. Thanks.​
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
I'm not talking about SOC alone. There are other stuffs like Camera etc.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
You realize the Sense camera doesn't work on AOSP any more than Samsung's does, right? And for the same reason's you're harpooning Samsung.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
Erm you're confusing Sense Camera with the actual camera module driver which I'm talking about.

Sense Camera is part of the HTC Sense framework thus won't work with AOSP.

It's already well known.

EDIT: And it has nothing to do with HTC One.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Or reality. Darling, I love 'ya, but you're a bit confused. Here's the official CM page for the Exynos Note 2.

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/N7100_Info

Here's a popular ROM on the N7100 forum based on CM.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2078256

Here are the CM10 nightlies for the N7100 with the most recent published today

http://get.cm/?device=n7100&type=nightly

Find what you think is missing or broken because of something Samsung has or hasn't done. If you can't find anything, or don't want to bother to look, let's make a deal - you'll stop using CM as a reason to bash Samsung. As for the future, Samsung's behavior has aggravated a lot of developers. Developers like to develop for an audience which is why popular phones have more development support. Those that are taking a stand and developing for Sony and boycotting Samsung are going to be very lonely in comparison. Any dev that thinks their work is so unique that people in large quantities are going to give up features or a brand their happy with to follow them needs an ego check. But there will be others to take their place and the one's that left may return out of boredom. And there are plenty of AOKP and other custom ROMs for Samsung devices, tons more than for other brands, so it's not as if people don't/won't have lots of choices. And you're promoting HTC, one of three companies that void people's warranties for unlocking their bootloaders, as "dev friendly" which is a bit ironic.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
You don't get it, don't you?

CM is there, but it's not fully working. Graphic glitches are all over the place. MHL doesn't even work.

Why graphic glitches? The Hardware Composer is BROKEN. Why MHL doesn't work? NO DOCUMENTATION AT ALL.

For even slower devices like Note & S2, lags are frequent because Project Butter is NOT WORKING AT ALL.

They don't provide proper sources and documentation for the Yamaha Chipset that someone work his ass off

to reverse engineer the driver so it can finally work properly.

Oh yeah it didn't work since the beginning of January and the bug was fixed in November.

11 GODDAMN MONTHS.

Even for the average joe, the superbrick fiasco was not solved by Samsung for the whole cycle of ICS aka 6 MONTHS.

How many thousands of devices were already bricked in this 6 months caused by their irresponsibleness?

I WILL NEVER FORGIVE THEM FOR THIS, EVER.

Why am I always complaining & *****ing about Samsung?

Because I'm a MIUI developer for the GT-N7000. It's so frustrating you can't ever get Project Butter working on AOSP/CM10/PA/AOKP ROMs.

I can't develop my MIUI ROMs ever so smoothly because graphic glitches are all over and the speed of the phone is coming to a crawl.

Not just that, it's so frustrating that the stock ROMs are also bull**** rushed crap.

The only stable ROM's I would dare say are the first Gingerbread ROMs and the last batch of ICS ROMs.

So if the stock ROMs are crap, we would of course look for alternative sources like AOSP right?

There's none. That's the most SICKENING part.

Even for Samsung devices, if your counter is more than 1, your warranty is voided, so it's the same for all manufacturers.

Get my point? I'm not using CM as a weapon against Samsung.

I'm just saying they are irresponsible.

We at XDA love thriving development, and Samsung is hindering it for us.

Even we report bugs to them, they won't f**king listen.

Who knows what they are going to do next.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Yep, i'm confident that CM will return to the galaxy series at some point, sources or not just because it is too much of a popular line. Now personally? I could not care less about CM, no disrespect to anyone. If my phone purchase had the sole purpose to get CM running on it, i would have chosen the current best phone for it, the nexus 4 ( which i owned 3 times :D ). But AOKP is awesome, so is paranoid ( i absolutely prefer those 2 over CM any day especially paranoid but that's a personal choice).
[Galaxy S 4 General] ra3al:
Sorry, but could not agree less with your opinion that developers choose what device to develop for, based primarily on its market success (number of units sold) or the size of the audience. In my opinion most developers target devices that they really like and actually own (and use).

I find it really far-fetched to believe that the developers who decided to boycott Galaxy S4 actually expect large numbers of current Samsung users to stop buying new Samsung devices and instead go for a Sony device, just because they did. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I agree.

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I disagree. Correct me if i'm wrong but Mike1986 for example, who is a known HTC developer made Roms for the S3 and Note 2, he didn't own any of them but i think he decided to cook roms for those 2 devices because of their popularity.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
I got my One today guys and yep it's got some of the little build quality issues you've seen in the thread.

Would be lying to say I was pleased, but would also be lying if I said I was surprised given that they're some of the first units around.

Still not sure whether it bothers me enough to return, but let's not let this turn into the "lol HTC Ones are falling apart" thread - it's very probable there will be similar GS4 problems in a couple months time :P

For those who were curious either here or in another thread, I can confirm the One TV app is in fact a variation of the Peel software as was thought and it is very VERY good.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iSpazem:
In my opinion...

In my personal opinion the international version of the GS4 is better then the One because octa core Exynos processor will ultimately make the GS4 a smoother user experience. However, In the U.S the One has a small advantage with the GS4 being clocked at 1.6 GHz and the HTC device at 1.7 GHz. I still give the advantage to Samsung because I prefer TouchWiz over Sense.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ra3al:
OK, but I think such developers are the minority (I said IMO most of them are not driven by the popularity of the device).

Could be wrong, of course :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Both will have more then enough processing power. GPU is where there will most likely be a difference ( power Vr vs adreno 320 versions).
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
You are wrong.

This is a ROM with pure build.prop edits with some apk addons.

I can do that easily for any phone out here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] iSpazem:
You are correct on that matter. But I do appreciate Samsung's decision to include 8 cores.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Thanks for taking the time to look; I didn't think you would. ;) But here's the crux of it. Even with excellent documentation there are always things that are broken to some degree in CM. There have been quite a few incidents where what's in the documentation doesn't work as it's described. Some thing's impact a few, some a lot. Some get fixed, some don't. Since you brought up MHL the N4 doesn't have it either; it has Slimport yet it has sold well (it also doesn't support OTG). So people pick what's important to them: N4 vs. MHL/OTG, CM vs. MHL, and even Samsung vs. (insert specific developer).

But your point is totally valid. To people who use or want to use CM or the work of a specific developer Samsung's lack of or delayed support could be an issue. But how many people on XDA that are in to CM aren't aware of its potential for issues and ever evolving state? And the masses don't even know what a bootloader or ROM is better yet CM. And I'd bet if you asked people which they'd rather give up to use CM, MHL on a Samsung device or their warranty on an HTC device, we know which most would pick. Life's full of compromises.

Here's what I think is happening. As more info's coming out on the SGS4, just like last year, the HTC device's "spec euphoria" is beginning to wear off as the Samsung device is superior in a number of areas. Add in, just like last year, HTC's early-build QC issues and the "One Team" is feeling a little distressed. Just like the One fan a couple of pages back that railed on the SGS4's battery and PenTile display, you’re playing Paul Revere over CM not being pleased with Samsung's level of dev support. That’s swell but repeating it over and over smacks of a desperate attempt to find issues to use against the SGS4 in a comparison against the One. And a One signature in your posts the size of a small planet doesn't exactly scream neutrality. Bide your time, once the SGS4’s released I’m sure there will be plenty to pick apart. No device is immune. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
No, you are wrong. there is no way YOU can do a quality Rom as good as Mike1986, not in this life.

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And i said that i disagree, doesn't mean what you've said is wrong.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
That's kind of oxymornic. Those boycotting Samsung devices have been very vocal and made it abundantly clear why and it hasn't had anything to do with the device or its functionality.

And I'm in no position to know what motivates developer's on the whole and I'm sorry if it came across that way. I do know some fairly well and they'll openly admit that like their egos stroked. And there's nothing wrong with that. Especially when you're working long hours for free and the ratio of "!!!!The _____ is broken!!!" to the "Thanks for the hard work, this is great!" is about 10:1.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
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[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
I think this is the most intelligent reasoning I've seen on this thread so far. Good call on the physical home button and the Pentile phobia.
[Galaxy S 4 General] dohturdima:
Radio. This is my only beef with Samsung devices - their weak reception. Really hope that with GS4 it changes for the better but if it hasn't happened in 3 prior iterations won't hold my breath
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
There is no one on xda that matches the brilliance of monarx for team viper. And having done rom development I have torn apart what has been done for the dna viper rom and the changes are staggering to say the least. Anyone with any knowledge of dalvik smali or java will see instantly how far ahead he is than the rest of us.

The sad truth is a lot of hacks make donations by repackaging a sense rom with some build prop tweaks and apm and call it a rom.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Ok... so what are you saying? Cause i'm pretty sure Mike 1986 is an elite developer.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
Should have clarified. This isn't a shot against mike. I was just commenting on your comment and the one you commented on. But that said he isn't in monarx league. But don't take my word for it. Grab your apktool and start decompiling system apks, jars and also the app he built from scratch to instantly change hard coded features all through a sense 4 + rom. Why do you think when anyone uses tweaks without permission they are instantly shut down by xda? It is truly original work.

That said I think Mike does a great job. But no one can touch monarx.

Monarx is like when I saw the best flamenco guitarist I had ever seen. Made me want to quit guitar because of the skill the guy had.

He makes me want to just build apps from scratch because I know I'll never rom dev like him.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
Lots of things wrong here.

Since an AMOLED screen has no backlight, resolution and subpixel efficiency have a much bigger effect than screen size—and as usual, power efficiency is improved thanks to Samsung's PHOLED technology. Also, you might be missing the whole point of the 8-core big.LITTLE CPU: 70% increased power efficiency over the Exynos 4 in the S3/Note 2—not more battery drain. PenTile is a great battery-saving technology that also improves screen longevity, and has nothing to do with color reproduction (which is greatly improved on the S4 and will likely beat the One in sRGB/Movie mode). With the new diamond matrix and a PPI well over 400, it is literally completely indistinguishable in sharpness compared to the One. You'd be hard pressed to see a difference even with a magnifying glass.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
That will have to be seen. Though I personally think the big/little architecture is unnecessary at this point, it is very interesting. Remember that the Tega3 had a quad core with a fifth core for low level tasks and that was not more power efficient than the first generation kraits.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
The Tegra 3 wasn't much comparable to Samsung's SoC's to begin with, and it used a less much power-efficient manufacturing process than the Krait chips. Keep in mind that on top of the big.LITTLE design, the 8-core Exynos retains all the battery saving tech of the Exynos 4 (hotplugging, High-K Metal Gate, etc.), so there's no reason to think it shouldn't save battery even more with ARM's design. At worst, it's a quad-core A15 that's comparable to Qualcomm's CPU's with the tradeoffs (Samsung's proven battery saving tech from the previous generation combined with a bigger battery, countered by the higher clock and the slightly larger manufacturing process).
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
Not doubting Just saying it hasn't been tested. Correct me if I'm wrong but this will be the first device this is out on.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GGXtreme:
Of course. And being that there aren't any accessible demo devices and there isn't even software up to date enough to give us an accurate picture of the performance we're looking at, anything is possible. It just seems unlikely, all things considered, that Samsung would bank on this technology if it had serious enough flaws to not perform as intended. If someone was deciding between the One and S4 on battery life, it would be smart to wait for some results, but common sense indicates the S4 will have better battery life. I can't wait to see GSM Arena's results.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
Yeah will cool to see it in real world tests.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
Somebody's being defensive here. Butthurt? :eek:

You people still don't get my point. This ROM has a base which is stock ROMs made either by Samsung or HTC.

AOSP Roms are made from scratch. I highly respect developers making CM10/PA/AOKP/MIUI. The finest developers there are.

Never mind. Me blabbing here won't get through you people's skulls.

I'll let you guys use your Galaxy S4 for one year.

Prepare to be disappointed.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Seriously, as stated before, how many hear use CM on their devices anyway? And this is a geeky community, the result here will give you a rough idea about how much people care about CM. IF you are buying this phone just to run CM on it, you are spending a lot of cash while you could go for a nexus. I personally don't care for CM. Ever since Note 2, except for Perseus kernel, I haven't modified a thing. It runs smoothly, no bugs, no hiccups. Touchwiz is fine on this device, so I'm expecting it to be so on the s4.

Swyped from another galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Why are you trying to judge people here? It's for users to determine whether they are happy/disappointed with the device. It's not for you decide what phone they get and their reactions.

You are not in a position to let people use a device. They will use it as long as they want.

Skulls?? No need for such condescending attitude here.

It's just a phone. You like HTC, good. Doesn't mean that if someone gets a Samsung, he is wrong. Not everyone has same priorities.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
Good you realized you are blabbing.. your attitude and skull talks are just making you look low and immature.. try harder.. you are getting there..

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[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Well i'm not sure who is best and who isn't but that doesn't really matter as they aren't competing with each other. Yes some ppl aren't really developing but i took the example of a guy who is well known and well respected.

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No lol i'm not butthurt. You definitely cannot irritate me because i don't take your comments seriously, seriously. I just read them and laugh that's all.

But i don't wanna speak on devs names, it isn't my place. All i know is that he is one of the most respected devs here on xda with some of the most popular Roms, and you saying you can do the same just had me laughing, i mean you? Let's be serious now.

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You're trying to hard my friend, if your mission is to make us not get the S4 then you will fail miserably :). We are getting the Galaxy S IV, you just gonna have to live with that.

edit: you remind me of those folks outside the galaxy s 4 event trying to get people to not get it and get the One instead LMAO
[Galaxy S 4 General] davwman:
Long live the nexus!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] fernando sor:
Aosp isn't made from scratch. It is compiled from source code. I'm sure that's what you meant but big difference.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Puzzlegal:
Yes, it looks like Samsung is trying to improve battery life. I am defintely not making a decision until I see how well they succeeded. Good times :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
UK GS4 will be Snapdragon 600

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/50491/samsung-galaxy-s4-uk-quad-core-8-core

spotted on One forum - maybe this throws a spanner in the works for some of the UK folks who voted CPU / GPU?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Trax_:
sry

Honestly not much. The hard ware is close to identical. As far as software goes I don't really pay to much attention as I would flash CM. To either.

GS4

Better GPU

Lighter

Battery life

Faster CPU clock

Bigger Screen

HTC

Aluminum body

More PPI

Looks better imho

MY:

Sorry but i think there will never be CM for Sgs4....because oft Sourcecode..