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[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
This is the way I'm leaning (GN2) because I have pretty big hands too so the size can be dealt with, but it might take a while to get used to that monster in my pocket (Fascinate is just so easy to pull out quick to check the time, etc).

The price really needs to drop before I pick it up though, $300 is just too much so if the GS4 releases with a $200 price point and the GN2 doesn't drop in price for whatever reason I will probably end up just getting the GS4. I know it's not a huge upgrade from the GS3 as you say, but the screen is noticeably bigger, brighter, and clearer to me plus it has a bigger battery. Those small upgrades alone are enough to sway me if the price isn't more than $200 (I could care less about all the gimmicky touchwiz stuff they showed off yesterday).

edit: scratch that, it's only $150 on amazon wireless so that pretty much changes things. I'm going to have to go and play with it a bit at the store and then make my decision.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
It's very nice and probably the best looking pictures/video I've ever seen on a smartphone yet. There's some test pictures/videos that pocketnow did on youtube, just search em up
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I'm never upgrading :cool: I get no lag and I'm on the latest version of android what more could a guy ask for?
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
yes, but what happens if the fascinate isn't upgraded to key lime pie (or whatever the new android OS is)? the gnote2 will seriously be a long lasting phone with development going a long way.
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Then I will upgrade but to a galaxy s4 but I'm not worried about it for at least another year because I can almost 99% tell you the fascinate is getting key lime pie that could probably last me another 2yrs why fix something if it ain't Brocken? If this fascinate is still running like grease lightning I feel no need to upgrade.
[Fascinate General] hhp_211:
I know right ?... I'd have to buy something outright,,, never plan to get back into contract subsidizing again... page plus pricing and hard to beat this super portable? jb 4.2.2 beast ?

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My heart wants a note ii ?✨... But my wallet says g nexus i515 when prices fall to $120 or less ?

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
yeah, I definitely want to pick up a gnex (cdma) in the future, or pick up the newer nexus phone (even if it's gsm)
[Fascinate General] shahkam:
Its hard to notice the quality via a video having it in real life is even better..

Sent From My HyperDrived S3.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
For me personally I really want a bigger screen (at least 5") because I watch a lot of video on my phone (sometimes gaming too) and as nice as the Fascinate is, it's just not big enough (again, this is just me). The fact that we have the latest android is amazing and all our developers are top notch, but still I can feel the phone struggling sometimes, especially during multitasking, so it'll be nice to have a newer phone that has a bit more horsepower to run the latest and greatest. I also want a better camera, NFC, and improved call quality, which no matter what I do to the Fascinate I won't ever get those either. I also want to gift this phone to a friend of mine who doesn't really have the money to own a nice smartphone, so it'll make me feel good to give her an awesome phone that will still get updates to hold her over for some years.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
I agree. You might be interested in this little review I found on that thing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ikp_ETYuYjw
[Fascinate General] shahkam:
Will look onto that mate thanks for the link almost 3am :eek:

Sent From My HyperDrived S3.
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
don't forget the spen and multiwindow are very nice features on the n2 that the s4 wont have. don't get me wrong the s4 will be a solid device, but I would go with whatever you can get a better deal on. At this point the hardware is far more capable than the software on the latest devices.

bbrad, I absolutely cringe at the thought of trying to run key lime pie on the fascinate. If you ever used a device with 2gb of ram for a week you would never go back trust me. I go weeks on end without rebooting and my n2 keeps on flying. Its time to upgrade bro. The fascinate was a great device in its day, but now its just a piece of history imo. not to mention the iphone now has the same size screen lol...that there would make me run like hell!!
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
People cringed at 4.2 on the fascinate remember when everyone said it would be horrible and laggy? Look at us now I haven't rebooted my fascinate for a week still no lag I've used many big ram devices like the n4 let's put it this way my phone on AOKP is faster than most of these newer devices on stock lol and I can't upgrade anyway I'm 14 and I. Can't exactly start a new contract due to I won't be able to pay for it so I would have to outright buy a phone and I don't have the money to do that
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
no problem... the fascinate is a great device don't get me wrong.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Hey droidstyle how's the durability on the N2? Do you run with it naked or in a case? I'm partial to cases myself (I've accidentally dropped my Fascinate many times that would have probably resulted in a cracked screen without a case), which will increase the bulk of the N2 so I'm a bit worried about that (but the Seiko case has a kickstand, so that's a plus).
[Fascinate General] droidstyle:
im running a body glove tpu case that adds absolutely no bulk at all. its impact resistant and held up perfectly to the one time i dropped it. no marks on anything including the case.
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
damn, I may have to pick me up one of those, and a screen protector. I dropped my fascinate, without a car or protector and cracked my screen. it's got clear traps on out at the moment, but hey it still runs like a, freakin' champ :)
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I have one of those body gloves on my fascinate to there amazing and add hardly any bulk
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
nice. I'd buy one, but it wouldn't be worth it considering in a month (exactly from today!) I get my n2
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Instead of buying me a new phone I decided I'll build me a PC how does this sound

CPU: amd fx 4.2ghz 6 core black edition

Motherboard: Asus motherboard with uefi bios with full overclocking support

Graphics: And radeon 6470 ultimate edition

Ram: 64gb

Case: 4 fans, led tempature indicater, fan control, led color control
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
definitely nice, but when I go and build my computer I'm definitely going with Intel. I'm planning on dualbooting Mac OSX and possibly Windows 7/8

or I'll triple boot :)
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I'm a amd fanboy so you know lol I would never go intel way to expensive and complicated for my 14yr old brain lol
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
haha, I just want to build a hackintosh. that's the only reason is go Intel
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Actually in recent years Intel has become more budget friendly than AMD has believe it or not. Check out the best cpus for the money on Tom's Hardware and you'll see what I mean. I used to be really into AMD for their budget friendly stuff, but honestly for the same dollar an Intel chip will wipe the floor with almost any AMD chip these days.
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I just like and because sorry if this sounds weird lol because it speaks to me I like all there pro ducks great customer support I've had 3 computers with Intel proccesors and they've always been crap 3 different brands I've had 2 amds there still running like lightning I just don't like Intel IDC if you care or not I'm a amd fanboy :thumbup::beer:
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Oh I'm not saying AMD is bad by any means, I've built a lot of machines with them and they were all fine, I'm simply saying these days Intel has really pulled ahead with value per dollar over AMD. This isn't to say that you can't build a great AMD machine, because of course you can, but in most cases you can push your dollar further with Intel these days, especially if you overclock them (they overclock insanely well). The only place I can see that you'll really save some coin is the motherboards, because I think that premium Intel boards still go for a lot more money than similar AMD boards. I used to be an AMD fanboy myself but I've learned to like both companies now for different reasons. At the moment I'm running an older Core 2 Duo system that's been 100% rock solid for about 8 years now running almost always 24/7.

Well anyway, good luck in whatever platform you choose, building a machine is always a fun time and if I had the money these days I'd be doing it as often as possible.
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Oh yea I wasn't hating on Intel or anything they make good products but I'm just a amd person haha hey guys what do you think of this case

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144275
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
dude, that's bomb diggity, lol.

btw, brad did you see we have a new dev/ROM?
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Slimbean nice :thumbup::beer:
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
yeah, that's definitely one I've been trying to bring over for a while now. I'm so glad that someone was able to bring the awesomeness to the party.
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I would think twice about getting the galaxy s4 if I were you it will not have cyanogenmod support so probably no ROM support Samsung has just turned into the new Motorola check this link out

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/19/cyanogenmod-will-not-support-the-galaxy-s-4/

I will be going sony,lg, or HTC
[Fascinate General] hhp_211:
Boo Samsung... Guess they don't realize this is what really makes it better than locked down ios/iPhone,,, having a great community of devs and friends who love to personalize their phone roms
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
This sucks now where are we all suppose to go haha oh well I'm sticking with my fascinate till something catches my eye and so far that's nothing
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Well that sorta sucks but A) It's still a rumor and Samsung could change their minds B) Cyanogen Mod isn't the only dev team in existence, AOSP roms could make their way to the S4 and C) I actually like a lot of the new Touchwiz features so I'd be perfectly fine with a rooted stock or Touchwiz based rom
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
I'm still considering my options though. Until I have a chance to look at and play with the S4 I'm not 100% set on it and am still considering getting the Note 2 or some other device instead. The HTC One would be great if it wasn't for the fact that it has no sd card slot and the battery life is average at best. Those are not entirely deal breakers though, and I think I could look past those short-comings with all the advantages of it (it's obviously the best designed Android phone ever made and it shows). Sony phones never appealed to me and the new ones still don't, so that's out of the question. There's still a chance I'll just hold out until the Nexus 5 and get my Google on
[Fascinate General] jt1134:
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13ryf4jbtjyxhdlc221hl44tznvd3hhv04

Best bet: disregard android central as a "news" site, and completely block sites from your browser that repost android central information as "news".
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
So one person spoke and they framed it as cyanogenmod not supporting the galaxy s4 as a whole? Seems legit nowadays
[Fascinate General] ztotherad:
I can't not see cyanogenmod not supporting nearly every device, unless it's locked down hardcore. cm seems to want to bring AOSP to every phone just because AOSP kicks blurs ass
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
I been planning on it. But just read that CM developers are passing on it...Which mean its gunna be a stock phone unless an independent developer unlocks it. YOu can read about it here: http://www.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Dude look 2 pages back IMO I already posted that jt said it was fake
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
If you havent herd already a root exploit for Snapdragon Powered variants (all US carrier versions) has been constructed. Came across this good news since I am gunna be headed to the the s4 when verizon gets it. But looks like they got root, well its a start anyways in the right direction!

http://samsung-updates.com/root-exploit-for-snapdragon-based-galaxy-s-4-found/

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40747604
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Good info, thanks. I'm actually preordering mine tomorrow :good:
[Fascinate General] MultipleMonomials:
I'm probably going to get a t-mobile s4 in June when my Verizon upgrade is up. By then the whole cm-yes-or-no question should be answered. I honestly believe that, considering the sheer number of people buying this phone, there should be at least one or two decent devs in the mix. Worst comes to worst, I can fall back on the s3.

Posted from my Fascinate using XDA Premium
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Droidstyle had already proven that to be a hoax. Of course there's going to be Cyanogenmod for the S4, there's no reason they would just ignore (arguably) the best android on the market right now. I'll probably just keep mine stock for a while while the roms start to mature a bit, just to minimize running into a crapload of bugs.
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
I am waiting on a check then I prolly will as well. I dont really think theres a need to pre order, just another way for them to make more money. I really want the non snapdragon (chip) one but dont really want to waiit lol :silly:
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
They make more money that way? It's the same price to preorder as it is to buy it after, I thought the point was just to make sure you get one. I know that Sprint already ran out of them haha.

Actually there's almost no difference in the 8-core vs Snapdragon, and in fact the Snapdragon beat the 8-core in certain things! Check here for more info: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt5im3WAZYc Also, the Snapdragon will most certainly have better development than the 8-core anyway...
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
True been waiting since dec when I herd of the release so guess I am being a lil picky lol. Came across the s4's launcher, ported for all devices, if anyone interested :silly:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2236937
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Me too man, I've already got my case picked out for this thing and I'm ready to go. Can't wait to get this beast, it's gonna be a long month this May...
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
I wonder how hard it would be to port the framework to make a touchwiz ROM I will be ordering a 1tb hard drive in a month or so then well be in business
[Fascinate General] MultipleMonomials:
How wrong THS was...

http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...d-already-hits-the-t-mobile-galaxy-s-iv-r1612

Posted from my Galaxy Tab 2 with CM10.1
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
They were talking about the exynos versiob. Not the snapdragon one. Which you know, every US and almost around the world save a few countries is snapdragon based.
[Fascinate General] MultipleMonomials:
No, the t mobile s4 is snapdragon.

Posted from my Galaxy Tab 2 with CM10.1
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
Yes sir, You can either wait awhile or pay like 700 or if wanting the other directly through Samsung to get a dev phone. Not at those prices no thank you. hahaha Good to see the cm news though.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
The more I see what this phone can do the less I can wait for this stupid thing to get released :eek:
[Fascinate General] times_infinity:
I might get the S4. I'll have to pay full price though. Not gonna lose my unlimited data.
[Fascinate General] Sippi4x4man:
I might stick with the S3, I can't afford to pay 3 or 4 hundred dollars for a device. My carrier has the 16 gb S3 on sale for 79 bucks
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
I used to be that way, but then I realized I'm on WiFi about 80% of my day and I barely ever go close to hitting 2GB a month, so I'm not too worried about it. I personally can't afford a phone like that off contract anyway.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
You're not talking about contract price are you? It's $199.99 from all the major carriers right now and off contract it's about $650
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
When i was using my tethering when my internet was off for a hot min, i hit 16g of data within 2-3 weeks lol. average though maybe like 4g a month and we have 3 phones on the plan. Loosing unlimited data gunna suckk
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
Yeah it's definitely going to suck, and it's going to be even easier to chew through data with that lightning fast LTE. Luckily I haven't had to tether, but with the amount of torrenting I do I'd probably go way past 16GB lol. From what I heard the Verizon CEO was saying he's 'open' to the possibility of doing unlimited pre-paid like T-Mobile but nothing was set in stone yet. Maybe he was just blowing smoke, but who knows maybe we could have something in the future to choose from at least
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
ya who knows these days, every carrier is starting to follow what verizon did. I still took the throttle off lol
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
Pure AOSP on the s4 Google Version.. thats what I want!

http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-galaxy-s4-google-edition-to-be-announced-at-google-io-1555174/
[Fascinate General] bbrad:
Somehow I think that a Rumor that's not going to happen. Not saying it won't but why would Samsung make a Google galaxy s4? Doesn't make sense
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
They do. Verizon said you have to buy directly through samsung though. Dont have 700 to buy a dev phone through them though lol Specially when for us not that biggy it having pure aosp on it when most of us are runnin prolly newer stuff then what it has.
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
The release date was bumped up to May 23rd btw. 1 week sooner than expected.
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
That's cool. Not sure when I will be able to come up with the 200 yet. Got a email by Verizon today and mede me more pumped. Wonder if they will take an I.O.U. Lol :silly:

" Hopefully your not scared of the dark, if u arnt you still may not be able to handle E.E.X.!"

** Evil Elemental X - BlackICE | injected with Devil/Twp | Crossbreaders, A!cid Audio, custom themed apps & more..**
[Fascinate General] LasVegasRomeo:
Samsung Galaxy S4 Developer Edition for Verizon Coming Soon

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/23/samsung-galaxy-s4-developer-edition-for-verizon-coming-soon/
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
I couldn't resist and picked up mine yesterday. It's a gorgeous phone, but make sure you go over it with a fine tooth comb when you're at the store, the first one I got had a faulty volume rocker. Display on this thing is just unbelievable, videos look sharper than they do on my computer monitor.

This thing is faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaast but I do notice lag from time to time. I think that will be easily fixed though once I throw an AOSP rom on it, as I don't use any of the touchwiz features. Battery life seems great so far, been using it fairly heavy today and still have 53% left.
[Fascinate General] MultipleMonomials:
No idea if this will help, but the home button lag can be easily fixed by disabling s voice.

Posted from my Galaxy Tab 2 with CM10.1

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And is the reason you're returning it because there's some sort of time limit/return window that's about to close/expire? If not, I'd advise you to keep it for a few more weeks. There're already CM nightlies for the thing, if you're planning on returning it it probably wouldn't hurt to try them out and see if the lag is better.

Posted from my Galaxy Tab 2 with CM10.1
[Fascinate General] Crawshayi:
I already knew about disabling S-Voice and it's been off the entire time. In fact, I have every single other Touchwiz 'feature' off too, yet it still stutters. It's very annoying. Also yeah, there is only a 2 week trial period so I wouldn't have much time to play around with rooting it. It's good to know that CM already made it to the phone, but still I think it's worth waiting until they start to work out the bugs that early nightlies are certain to have plenty of. I will still have my upgrade once I return it, and like I said I do actually plan on re-buying it.
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Latest HTC Drivers

Latest HTC Drivers extracted from HTC Sync v3.3.21 and HTC Sync Manager v2.0.61.0

Latest Driver Version (HTC Sync): 4.0.1.001

Latest Driver Version (HTC Sync Manager): 4.2.0.001

BMP Drivers are the same for both sets of drivers.

For those who don't want to have to download 120 some MB of bloatware called HTC Sync ;)

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MD5 CHECKSUMS

Sometimes downloading from the internet can yield a corrupt download. To prevent this, make sure you always check the md5 checksum (also known as "md5sum") of the file. This method verifies the

digital integrity

of the file by verifying its digital signature with the MD5 algorithm.

After you download each file, make sure to check that the md5sum matches what is given.

How to check the md5sum of a file:

Windows:

For windows you need to download the md5sum binary. I recommend the one from my dev-host.

After that, copy the file you're trying to verify to the directory where where you downloaded the "md5sum.exe"

Once that is finished, do SHIFT+RIGHT CLICK (inside the folder window) and choose "Open command window here"

Then type the following ("fileNameHere" must include the extension):

md5sum fileNameHere

That will output a hash, which you can compare to the ones above.

Linux: No need to download anything, md5sum binaries are included in all distros, as far as I know.

Open a terminal and type the following ("fileNameHere" must include the extension):

$ cd path/to/download/folder
$ md5sum fileNameHere

Two important notes:

This method can be used with any files you download, as long as the download site (or the dev themself) provides the correct md5sum.

If any of the digits do not match

exactly

, you need to download the file again.
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Extracted x32 BMP Driver and added to OP

HTC_BMP_USB_Driver_x32_1.0.5375.msi
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[One (M7) Android Development] RayYung:
Do I need to uninstall any old version first (from older Sync)?
[One (M7) Android Development] RayYung:
Interesting, I found a HTC Driver Installer 4.0.1.002 in my machine.
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Re: [DRIVERS] Latest HTC Drivers [v4.0.1.001]

Are you sure? If you have the (htc sync) exe can you upload it somewhere and give me the link?

I heard that the drivers were updated as well, and I've literally redownloaded HTC Sync about 50 times to try and update this, with no luck.
[One (M7) Android Development] RayYung:
This is what I have(see attached), I am still trying to figure out where it come from...

(I uninstalled and re-install three different versions of HTC Sync multiple time coz my HOX is "unknown" in device manager...)

I extract every exe I have but no luck, will let you know once I find it...
[One (M7) Android Development] RayYung:
OK, I uninstall all version and install them one by one, HTC Driver Installer 4.0.1.002 come with HTC Sync Manager 2.0.41.0. But can't find it in the exe, will play with it more tomorrow...
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Updated OP with IPTInstaller and Drivers version 4.0.1.002
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Updated OP with another link; some cleaning up in OP as well.
[One (M7) Android Development] CNexus:
Updated OP with md5sum how-to and checksums.