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[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Look what you wrote in your earlier post:

now you're saying yourself that note 2 launched in $850 in U.S, and launched in Pakistan at just 70k...do you know what is exchange rate?? and how much Pak Rupees it becomes when you exchange 850$ into PKR? so my logic is based on your comments, where you're showing so much difference in launching price between both countries..850$ in U.S and 70,000/-PKR, so it means you think galaxy s4 will also come in that much reduced price in Pakistan?
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

I see a lack of common sense here... But yes I am saying it will be the same price or CHEAPER , be it by 5000 or 10000 or 1000... Not necessarily 15000 less than the foreign market price... Jeez... According to your understanding of what I said , a phone that costs $150 in the US should be for free here...

Some people I swear......

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Ok bro...chill :D you're best guy in planet: D peace!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

Its not at all a matter of who is the best and who is the worst... Its just trying to make you understand what's being said and not taken out of context... Both have valid arguments provided within the correct guidelines...

Anyway... So the s4 clout seems to be getting bigger and bigger as more ppl who have used it have quite a bit of praise...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

Last night I went to hafeez center and got some informaton about s4. Shopkeeper said that it will cost around 70+ and will available at end of april
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Well bro no worries...somewhere i misjudged your comments as well..i saw some post about 70% of devices will get snapdragon 600 processors due to shortage of Exynos Chipset, and sadly our country will only get Exynos, which means we'll see very fewer custom ROMs then Snapdragon powered phone owners, another big setback, i don't know why Samsung doesn't opt for LTE capable device for everyone...they should leave it to us...who knows we would get LTE sooner...do you have any info on that? we don't have even 3g yet...but they do provide HSPA+ capable devices, can't understand their logic..

This would be fairly decent price, but i'll see which type of processors have more dev support, and if Snapdragon does, i would grab one from U.S or hong kong without warranty of course :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

Yeah I know and both will have decent developers support octa version is more battery friendly and also has more raw power ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

I don't think the s4 exynos will have even close to as much support as the snapdragon as alipk said...

For the exynos you will find plenty of Samsung based ROMs yes... But probably not too many aosp ones... While for the snapdragon you will find both in ample amounts...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

Yuo like s3 mini

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

Yeah I do. It should have packed quad cores
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Re: Official Pakistani Galaxy S4 Owners Thread - Discussions, PreOrder, Reviews and m

If it packed quad cores, then what would be the difference between it and the larger s4 or the full scale s3 apart from size...??

The whole marketing gimmick for the "mini" series is to sell a phone that just "Looks" like the s4... Internals being low end to make the phone more affordable...

Of course this phone is just meant for aesthetics, not hardware... To be able to say I own a s4... Even if its the mini :P

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Guys any updates?
[Galaxy S 4 General] farrukhna:
nah mate .. no updates .. its just that i heard S4 will be around 65K
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Hope so this will be great
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
I dont think so, my guess is still 75k. In india it will be for 43k which makes 76k pkr

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Yup, under 80k is highly expected price, i ran through various portals, collected numerous "confirmed" and "almost confirmed" prices in different countries, and all of them makes it 80k and over after converting into PKR, so keep that money in your pocket, when buying SGS4!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
I think I'll buy it a month later its release so price can settle down ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] farrukhna:
and how much will it settle down? hardly a couple of thousand bucks mate
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
In a months, it will easily fall down 5-6k. I suggest everyone to buy from wholesale shops rather than from samsung outlets. There will be huge price difference

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
I totally agree with you galaxy note 2 on Samsung's outlet is 66k and in wholesale market it's 58.5k

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And that will be enough to buy 64 GB memory card ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
58.5K with or without warranty?
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
Last I checked was 59.5, of course with warranty of teletec

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[Galaxy S 4 General] farrukhna:
and surprising thing is that when i bought S3 back in September it was still 59k :p so u guys can see how much a price drops in pakistan (thanks to the financial exchange rates)
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
A week before i bought SGS 3 for 54K with teletec warranty.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Off course with warranty
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
U from lahore? Which shop is giving note 2 at this price?
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
So, HTC One is now available in Pakistan. Price 80K as per cellmart and HomeShpopping.

Lets see what wud be the initial price of Galaxy S 4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
This is online price, I guess in market it will be cheaper. Homeshopping crap will bring it down to 70k within a month.
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
Even cellmart is giving it at the same price.

And yeah obviously the price will come down in future. It is just the initial price, which is quite high. :S
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Yeah I'm there 2 shops if you are interested pm me

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It will be between 75 and 70. I visited market today and they told it will be globally launched at 27 april
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
But don't forget here it's no HTC support, because as we know HTC isn't in Pakistan unlike Samsung, which has numerous service centers across the country.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
HTC support is by Brightex... They are the official distributor for HTC... Hence if you get a HTC phone from brightex, you will get just as much support as you would get getting a Samsung which is warranted by Teletec or M&P...

There is NO Samsung cellphone center I've seen in Pakistan... Atleast brightex has HTC shops... And if you get a Samsung without warranty... Not like you will get any support regardless...

So don't think it's a valid statement that Samsung has Support and HTC doesn't... You buy the phone in warranty and you get support for both... You buy the phone without warranty then you don't get support for either... Simple.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
ok i didn't knew about brightex before, how many service centres it has, or in other words, how do they offer there services in case we need some repairing?
[Galaxy S 4 General] TechLife:
Guys why don't you Get the Sony Xperia ZL in Pakistan ?

I think its more compact Phone ever made even than that of Galaxy SIII, Samsung in terms of design not looking as A premium device.It's just like A plastic sh**t

Sony Xperia ZL is more cheaper always to Galaxy Note II, Xperia Zl have 5" Full HD compact design ever & in size of lesser than SGS III.

In battery ratio S4 vs Xperia Zl , the s4 have more 230mah battery but s4 bezel is much more than Xperia Zl.

Xperia Zl price is 54k in all of its premium feel.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ila420:
It will be around 80k and we are getting the exynos version if i am not wrong.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
Premium feel isnt everything, we had enough talk on this. S4 is way ahead of xperia z in both software and hardware department.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
He's talking about the ZL, not the Z... And I actually think he has a very valid point... It's a amazing phone... Should be compatible with the dual shock controller as well for gaming... If only it had the water and shock proof ness as the xperia Z that would be a amazing phone by all odds...

Otherwise same hardware as the N4... But a 13mp camera... And an insane 441ppi screen...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Galaxy s4 all the way ;) I'm not going to change my mind :D

Right now I have xperia t :cool: my first and probably last phone no resale value, way too much decerase in its price, not much delvelpors support, poor battery life and washed out colors of lcd :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] TechLife:
By Resale value No Phone even has or touch the iphone Resale value, Cause iphone prices never Fall Rapidly like Any Android Devices either its Samsung, Sony & htc whichever Android Device.

But the point I wanna Raise for Pakistani People is Why there such A need to Have Octa(8) Core Processor? While our PCs Intel core i7 Have just Four Core even its A i7 Processor.May be Octa core is just Marketing As like 4 core are using in Processing & other 4 core for the Cooling the Processor or something, than why we Spend Our Hard Earning in Such A thing ??????

I think Galxy S4 is Not other than A little improvement in Processor & Battery. So for the Rest of the Device its have all previous feature like Galaxy SIII.Expect hovering or Eye scrolling Samsung is not selling Hardware its just selling Software.

Basically I'm not Fan of any Company, But I Go for the just Prices of Devices in Pakistan, Here Galaxy S4 Price will be Near 76,000 PKR.and Xperia Zl is 54000 PKR including Shipping Charges its Nearly to Samsung Galaxy SIII.
[Galaxy S 4 General] hassan89:
Mate the 8 cores do not work together.There are 4 low power cores and 4 high power ones.

Naming it octa core is just for marketing hype. Even though i'm buying the htc one in a few weeks i believe the s4 is the most advanced smartphone you can buy right now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Iphone prices also fall for example when iphone was released @110000 and now its around 68000

And 8 cores doesn't work simultaneously when lower processing activities are performed it uses a7 quad core resulting battery savings and for heavy work its uses a15

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I was also planning to get one but its button placements and battery timing make me go towards s4 but I love it ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] hassan89:
Haha good thinking mate :) S4 definitely is the best choice right now.I'm going towards htc just because the widgets and the design.Oh and yeah one more thing.Sense 5 is lightning fast from the hands on videos i have seen.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
If I remember correctly, the boot loader of the HTC One is locked unless you get the developers edition... Hence that will be a major problem if your into the modding scene... You may want to verify that before making a purchase...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Yeah sense has been reworked much better now but still lots of things are missing anyways its a great phone :)

+1 s4 will be more development friendly ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I really won't go as far as to say developer "friendly"... Samsung never releases source so every developer hates them pretty much... You still don't have fully working aosp ROMs for the s2 or s3... Will be the same situation with the s4... If you remember, right after the launch of the s4, team hacksung went as far as to say they won't developed for the s4 due to all the difficulties faced due to closed source with all previous galaxy models... Which I know later the official cyanogen said they will, but it just goes to show the level of frustration Samsung is causing...

So Im Not saying there won't be development... Definitely will... I'm just saying the s4, especially the exynos variant which will be the official version for Pakistan, is far from developer friendly...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] TechLife:
Agree ! :good:

No doubt Samsung Galaxy S4 is an excellent device. It is a step ahead to its predecessor- Galaxy S3. But, figuring out what is most important for an individual’s use, Galaxy S4 could be a bad choice. If you want to show off the new & latest features of a Smartphones then go for Samsung Galaxy S4 only if your pockets are heavy. Whereas, if you want one of the best Smartphones with a bit lower budget than that of Galaxy S4 (~Rs. 76,000-80,000), then you can choose Galaxy S3 (~Rs. 43,000-50,000) or the larger Note 2 (~Rs.54,000).

Samsung Galaxy S3 has 1.4GHz quad-core processor, 1GB RAM, 4.8 inch display & 2100mAh Li-Ion battery. It will satisfy all your expectations from a Smartphone. S3 could be the best option if you don’t want to waste 30k-37k on some unnecessary features in S4.
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
Can anyone tell me why there is so much price difference in phones with warranty.

For example SGS 3 without warranty is for abt 43k, while i got it with teletec warranty for 54k :eek:. Do these distributors keep so much profit or r without warranty phones repacked etc?
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
I think the s3's lack of ram is its downfall in today's day and age... Unless you get the tmobile variant which has a dual core with 2gb ram. The note 2 on the other hand is perfect... If only it were easier to carry in the pocket...

I personally think you over paid for your s3 in warranty... Should be able to easily get it for 52 these days... But yes there are lots of varying factors for the lower price of the "non-warranty" phones, which include repackaging, carrier variants, and recently lots of refurbished phones...

Unless you personally don't know the seller I always feel its risky buying without warranty... But luckily I know my shop people hence prefer saving 5-8k on losing the warranty...

But bottom line... If the deal is too good to be true... Its probably shady... And the beloved People of Pakistan have plenty of ways to screw you over... Because when you think about it... When the average person sees a 10k difference between a with warranty and without... They will want to save that cash without thinking about the downside...

But anywhoo... Always expect a 5-7k difference in with and without warranty... If its more than that... There is probably something your not being told... Not necessarily a flaw, but maybe a diff variant etc...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Naming it octa is not completely right nor completely wrong too, and yes one day it will work as a virtual 8 core processor , read more here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191850

Read OP.

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Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

The other side of XDA :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
You really didn't think too far ahead when choosing a nickname did you :P lol

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[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Ahh, yeah just a test profile this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Well for the people who are interested in the HTC One... Some good news...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/10/htc-one-source-code/

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
I was talking about touchwiz roms not custom one ;) .
[Galaxy S 4 General] TechLife:
Zahid Ali Please tell how much local shopkeeper offer you for your Xperia T ??
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
I bought it month ago for 42k but now its priced droped to 34 but i was still able to sell it to a friend for 29 and in market it was selling around 22 to 24 max
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Best maximum screen size for a phone is 4.3 inches, even Galaxy S3's 4.8" screen is too much for a phone, but as long as i have secondary Nokia phone for on the go activities, i keep the expensive ones at home, so for me, bigger is better, Only reason i am in two minds to buy S4 is our i9500 variant is threatened to have lack of pure AOSP ROMs, this phone really deserves something as fluent as AOSP, once i decided to switch to Samsung, they are releasing with 2 different chipset, which will surely result in division of developers between the two variants, previously i saw s3, s2 had different variants, but same chipsets, and custom roms worked for both variants.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
That's what's been said over and over in this thread, guess you just realized it now...

And the s2 and s3 ALWAYS had different variants with DIFFERENT chipsets... Who told you they were the same...?? There is always the international Exynos Variant, and the Carrier Snapdragon version... Always... As a matter of fact it was the same thing even on the S1 where there was the intl Galaxy S and the carrier Vibrant... Same difference of chipsets...

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Good to know your one of those friends that rips off their other friends ;) :rolleyes: lol

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[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
Lol :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Haha :P

actually my friend is shopkeeper at hafeez center i'm his regular customer so always get better prices for him ;) he knew that i got offer 24 and 22 from other shops :P

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hell no :-O i'm not that type person my friends and family are most important to me :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] omer7:
Good :) Appreciate it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TechLife:
S4 Cost

Its weird Fact about Xperia Resale Bro ! Anyway :confused:

Mostly what color of S4 Attract you Guys, Black Mist or White Frost ?

Some of UK Markets or we can Say online Store Offer Pre-order price of Galaxy S4 without VAT(If you are outside Europe then you pay no VAT~value added tax) in PKR-72480, so when we include shipping charges PKR-4000~4700 through DHl~Fedex, The Galaxy S4 Cost 76480.Also 250~500 of Duty Tax.(if its not as A gift)

But we all know when any item is introduced Officially by Company in A Country than the Cost May vary from Country to Country,

So Guys there is No actual need to Convert others Cost to PKR, Cause In same online Store Galaxy S3 Cost you without VAT PKR-51189+4700 Shipping Charge,also remember Duty TAx.

But Here in Pakistan we are getting S3 52500~53400 with Teletec Warranty.

A hope the Price will be reasonable here,whats Opinion?????
[Galaxy S 4 General] Alipk52:
Well i guess you don't have enough knowledge over the difference between s3's and s4's...check these for your reference:

Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III

Samsung I9305 Galaxy S III

I am talking about xxx00 and xxx05, this is the first time they have put different chipsets in i9500 and i9505, i hope this will make it clear. only difference is RAM between the LTE and non-LTE

P.S i mentioned before that i never owned samsung phone before, so don't know about the techniques and tricks untill i get one in my hands, you should answer someone in proper manner if you have knowledge, otherwise leave it for others to answer, i saw specs of older phones and there chipset are same, unlike S4, so i mentioned here, that's it, you should skip if you're not willing to answer in a proper manner, i have a lot of options to know what i want to. thank you.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
I need help guys. A friend of mine has iphone 5 and he is getting owsum battery life 2 days standby time and 8 hours + screen time. I have seen it by myself for last couple of weeks. Battery life, camera and apps are most important things to me. What you guys suggest should i go for iphone 5 or wait for s4 :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] sohebq:
I wonder why the battery is only reason you are going to decide. You can get such battery life on s4 as well, but for that you need to cut down a lot of processes just like iphone.

Its again your choice, either you want a beautiful looking closed end phone or an average looking open end phone with tons of modifications and features.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] DrunkFuX666:
Yea and I said time and time again that they are different... always different... And if your theory of xxx00 and xxx05 is true, then why is the i9100 and i9100G with different chip sets...?? And the s3 i9305 is the LTE variant which is VERY uncommon as compared to the t999 I believe which again IS called a s3... Both having different chipsets... Maybe you should be more clear about what your trying to say rather than complain when you keep discussing the same thing over and over and someone points that out... as you say you've never owned a Samsung, while I have owned and purchased an ample amount so I DO know all the tips and tricks of Samsung... Hence am in a very comfortable position to comment on these phones, ESP the galaxy series... we can also talk about the S2 wimax or s2 HD if you like if your aware of those models...

Your on a developers forum, not Barney's Play School... if your asking questions they MIGHT be answered... Not necessarily in a way not to hurt your precious feelings...

Well in my honest opinion, apple products are no doubt very very well thought out and very good pieces of hardware with excellent software integration... Even tho they hold a measly dual core processor, they are alot smoother than our quad cores by far... And I personally think according to your needs the iPhone MIGHT be better suited to your needs... Although you need to bare in mind that there is only so much you can do with an iPhone as compared to an android phone... If those extras don't matter then I would say go for the iPhone...

I think at this point another benefit for you getting an iPhone 5 is , the price of the phone has now stabilized... You can buy it and if you don't like it you can sell it easily and bare a small loss as it has great resale... On the other hand when the s4 comes , the price will surely be inflated... After having used the iPhone for a while the price of the s4 should also stabilize... If not satisfied you can sell the iPhone and grab the s4 without losing too much...

Again this opinion is based on the needs you've said ... I personally would never go for the iPhone over an android... It just doesn't fulfil my "desires" :P

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Zahid Ali:
Thanks both of you. Right now i'm using Nokia x2-02 my backup and old buddy ;) therefore can't hit thanks or do multi quote :P

first battery life is most important to me when i had galaxy s3 32gb i installed tons of apps and games after doing that allot of app starts running in back ground and my phone was not able to sleep and start draining verf fast :( than i start rooting flashed different rooms and kernels but nothing useful there i'm little disappionted from android otherwise i love it's customization