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[General Topics] rl421403:
Well it's probably true for new buyers. But for a experienced users, it matters.

When I switched S3 from iPhone, I didn't actually know about all this. I had option to choose S3 or HTC One X and I went with S3 because it's more popular and had better support.

From what I learn in last year, I could never buy HTC or Motorola phones.

These companies never support their devices. They even lock bootloaders so we cannot update our devices ourself or install updated custom roms.

I am also a little disappointed with S4 release but I would pick S4 over HTC one any day.
[General Topics] bartholomey:
I have to agree with everything you just said. Even the iPhone built quality part. But really, if I were you, I wouldn't waist money upgrading from S3 to S4...

Sent from Neverland!
[General Topics] smrfd:
Samsung really pulled an Apple with this Galaxy S3s. But HTC is not to be trusted
[General Topics] ShapesBlue:
Yea I've completely gone away from Motorola all together myself and that's a selling point for me being able to root my phone and changing it around nearly completely

Running CM10.1 on my GT-P3113
[General Topics] Skellig86:
This was exactly like last year for me.

I wanted a phone with huge storage capacity/microSD capacity and long battery life/removable battery with decent specs. And QWERTY but I have given up on the last thing.

The HTC One X was released and as pretty as the White one was, it definitely was not a purchase I was willing to make and I waited for the Samsung Galaxy S3 announcement. The announcement came and Samsung gave me what I wanted. I bought the S3.

Fast forward this year. HTC One announced. Still no microSD slot but looks like decent battery life. Looks very pretty too (I still think the white One X is the best looking HTC phone though). Not bad this time around HTC but let's wait to hear from Samsung. S4 gets announced and again, they have what I want from last year.

If I was choosing again between HTC or Samsung this year: Samsung Galaxy S4 because it has what I want from last year.

Luckily I want more stuff this year which is why I'm not going to buy a S4. My S3 is lovely and I don't need to buy an S4. However, I now really want a bigger screen. This year, I'll be looking to buy a Note 3 or competitor version as long as it has a huge screen, huge capacity/microSD, huge battery.

Honestly, I don't care what company you are or even what your phone looks like (I bought the S3 for god sakes). Just give me what I want and I'd buy it. I'm also eyeing the Blackberry Q10 simply because of the QWERTY but I think my lust for a bigger screen will win out. Plus the stylus is alright...right?
[General Topics] rl421403:
No, I am not saying, I am upgrading S4 from S3. But I would pick S4 over HTC One.

I will probably get Note 3. I also do not rule out possibility to get S4, if I get some cool discount. :)
[General Topics] bartholomey:
I always choose my devices on a simple basis : Good built quality / rootable.

I can't stand with the touchwizz or the sense. Based on that I would go with S4 too. But on a design basis, I cannot understand people who'll prefer the S4. The ONE is the one ! Amazing design !

Sure it has technical flaws like non removable battery and no SD support but it's beautiful!

Sent from Neverland!
[General Topics] bliizzz:
The htc one is far better than the gs4. Samsung completely lost it this time,http://m.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-4-vs-htc-one-quick-camera-comparison/
[General Topics] rl421403:
Yep. Because we know about that stuff now. Like all new users, I didn't know if my S3 was rootable (when I started with Android). I kind of assumed, it will be but after few months I found out some S3 (Verizon) has locked bootloaders. I was happy enough, fortunately I didn't get Verizon one. :)

I am not biased to samsung devices, I like good products. But removable battery and SD support is big for me (now, since I got Nexus 4). Because last December I purchased Nexus 4 for my father and I tried to customize it and played for 2-3 days. And I kind of missed SD support. With SD card I do not have to worry about loosing my data every time I flash custom rom. I just forget about my data and flash whenever I want and restore backup from SD card with titanium backup.

For replaceable battery, I remember my iPhone days, how much I did to save battery and increase batter life. It almost made me use my $800 smart phone like older nokia phones. Now I do not worry about it. I keep extra batteries.

But that's just me. I also like HTC One for what they did with device and strongly considered it but I was waiting for S4 to launch. And now I am thinking I will probably wait for Note 3. lol
[General Topics] envoy_467:
so, as experienced user, it is a problem to unlock a bootloader or root a phone?!

maybe that's not what youment and i'm wrong O.o
[General Topics] ianmedina:
I'll go with samsung s4. Got good experience with samsung while htc is a battery hungry device and had a bad experience using charger.
[General Topics] voyager_s:
I think the htc one looks the more interesting and premium device out of the two.

However..there are two areas...well one area really where I have great doubt when it comes to HTC. That is battery life.

They have been notoriously poor in the past. I will wait it out I think and see what the reviews bring in regards to battery life.

Then we shall see. The s4 looks like the s3. Only a bigger format with subtle upgrades. I'm not sold on the octa core processor. Its basically a quad core CPU. From what I understand, only a maximum of 4 cores can run at a time. And 4 of the cores are A7's.

But the main deal breaker with the s4 for me is the same old build and look of the s3. Not for me when there are so many choices available such as the HTC one.

I love the build and the refreshing overall aluminium design of the HTC. I sincerely hope the battery life holds up and does not spoil the device.
[General Topics] envoy_467:
leaving an HTC standard (tried with desire hd and desire s, but i followed one x path too) usually leads to battery draining, even if someone reports good battery life for one x, some not.. so.. question mark is a MUST

but when you cook some rom, and optimize everything, battery life it is not a concern, my desire hd, after 2 years had a battery life of 2 days and a half in normal use (wi-fi at home, mobile network outside)

PS funny note: is this the time to use that strange solar chargers?!?! xD
[General Topics] slannmage:
I'm going to wait till the end of the year to see what Apple and Nokia do, both HTC One and GS4 aren't step ups from what has come before, they do nothing new or exciting.
[General Topics] okty2k:
I know that the thread name was about HTC vs Samsung, but why not put also Xperia Z in the battle line? It has great specs, nice design.....
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
Is this thread meant seriously?

The only two positive points on the s4 are the sdcard slot and the removable battery.

But that's not even needed with the One because it's 32/64gig option and the pretty big battery.

And really, the s3 gave me the feeling it would be a toy, and my OneX felt so much better. Now the One is full alu, holy crap good...

This time, HTC beats them all.

Even I would go back to HTC now, if they would release a S-OFF. Probably I'm even getting it when there's only an unofficial S-OFF.

HTC One > Nexus4 > Xperia Z > Galaxy S4

If you're like me, and development is your biggest concern, exchange the One with the N4
[General Topics] jutley:
i want to see a quaderant scrore from htc one which i know is about 12000 without optimisations but what can the s4 pull off remeber there can only be one.
[General Topics] shashivydyula:
I will definitely go for HTC one.

Am a huge fan of HTC Sense too.

Even though SGS4 will be a tough competitor I would go for HTC ONE and am waiting for it to hit stores in our country!
[General Topics] PotatoEngine4:
Here's my only concern when I buy a new phone:

will cyanogenmod team support it?

So guys here's my question, will the galaxy s4 have good support from xda?

I know htc has never been kind to the dev community, but will the HTC one get good support too?
[General Topics] envoy_467:
it is absolutely ridiculous to see how samsung stresses this 8 core processors.. so newbies think they have REALLY 8 core, and not 4 at the time active..

unbelievable
[General Topics] PotatoEngine4:
I remember back when the galaxy s3 was released, most of my friends cried "what the hell did they do to the shape of phone?!". After a few months the same people said "we just love the phone, just look at its body". Why you ask? Just because the phone was getting mainstream, nobody even dared to mention other topnotch phones.
[General Topics] -DarkKnight-:
Too long didn't read

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[General Topics] crawlgsx:
Either one will be a great phone, end of story.

Personally for me I will be going with the HTC One.

I am bored with the Samsung design. I had the Note, S3, and Note II. The design is still almost identical, ie: boring (to me).

The US Variant of the S4 CPU is nothing to be excited about.

The HTC One looks sexy to put it bluntly. I think they have created a very aesthetically pleasing device.

HTC One has a higher DPI than the S4, which screen is a much more important factor to me right now, probably the highest.

The stereo speakers intrigue me on the HTC One.

I am bored with Touchwiz, had too many Samsung phones, will give Sense a try again.

At the end of the day it is a personal perference. I wouldn't let whatever minimal differences that come in Dev support or future official updates sway your decision. You say HTC sucks at updates, because that is what you had. Samsung sucks at it too. None of the phones push quick updates aside from the Nexus, end of story. If official quick updates is your priority, than you should buy a Nexus.

You just need to compare the features of the 2 phones and pick which one appeals to YOU. You have to set your own priorities and then compare the looks/specs/etc to your goals/wants/needs. No one can tell you what phone is right for you, or better. Because better is relative to you! The S4 may be better for some people, the HTC One better for others, and for many others neither of these phones will be "better".
[General Topics] joefrog1996:
Verizon is getting the One!!! About 2 months after other carriers do. Still the wait is worth it!
[General Topics] Spl4tt:
so true, and so sad.

Sent from my Nexus7.
[General Topics] haloimplant:
I admit the appearance of the One is captivating but some reasons why I am still leaning towards the S4:

SAMOLED blacks. At 1080p if they have done a good job the pentile should not be noticeable. When I use my nexus 7 at night I long for AMOLED blacks.

Larger display in the same external size.

Larger battery, of course actual battery life remains to be seen.

Gorilla Glass 3 - Corning says it is stronger and 3x more scratch resistant than GG2

The obvious: microSD and swappable battery. Do I swap these every day? No, but I do use them sometimes and I feel like I have to reward these design choices or they will disappear.
[General Topics] drarnold:
S4 for the removable battery and sd card slot alone.

Why is it that Samsung is the only manufacturer with both these features?
[General Topics] akfritz:
Both look like very solid options, I think it's all going to come down to battery life for me.
[General Topics] -DarkKnight-:
Because Samsung is the only manufacturer that still believes that people carry 2-3 spare batteries with you everyday

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[General Topics] drarnold:
Did I?

Well Samsung seems to be doing something right considering their success I would think more manufactures would be emulating them.
[General Topics] puremind:
You got this all wrong on the hardware side:

Stronger on HTC:

Screen accuracy, brightness and pixel density

Design

Camera (13MP fails horribly on both the Experia Z and S4 (same sensor), S3 was actually better based on published comparisons.

Sound (BoomSound delivery incredible Stereo Sound)

Microphone (HDR)

Stronger on Samsung:

Screen size and black levels

Removable Battey (I will leave you that one, though nowadays removable batteries are part of the casing, not part of the phone itself

Equivalent:

Form Factor/size:

Storage: at 64GB, additional storage is redundant for 99% of users, especially since nowadays OTG Flash drives are preferred to MicroSD because of the larger storage they enable; or dropbox

Processor (U.S. version): same processor as HTC One on the S4, just overclocked to 1.9Ghz, something Android users can do on their own.

Processor (international version): the Octa is overhyped, its A15 cores were downclocked to 1.2Ghz due to throttling issues, which explains why the benchmarks are equivalent to the S600 when they were expected to be higher.

Battery Life?

HTC has a 13% bigger battery BUT

Has to deal with a 12% bigger screen

Has to deal with S600 Clocked at 1.9Ghz at that, which is again 12% faster OR Exynos 4xA15 cores, which are power hungry, so when performance matters it will not be as energy efficient. Throttling was actually confirmed, which is why those cores will run at 1.2Ghz instead of the leaked 1.8Ghz.

Has to deal with all of the Samsung's software (basically the eye/gesture tracking features, which keep the camera and sensor's awake and eat up battery.

Last but not least, considering the HTC One will likely be brighter than the Galaxy S4 (it was 60% brighter than the S3), you will have battery reserves in the form of reduceable brightness, something the S4 doesn't have.

Let's wait for battery benchmarks but with a 5 inch screen and overbloated software that use up battery (basically the eye/gesture tracking features), I don't see the S4 coming on top in terms of battery. Samsung dimensioned the battery to cope with the extra strain it puts on it. Sure, at their lower brightness level vs. the HTC One it could come on top on poorly designed benchmarks, but at equal brightness, there is just no way based on what we know.

Please should start realizing that dimmign screens like Samsung does wins battery bencharks but it doesn't help the customer. As a customer I want to choose in which situations I want more battery and in which situations I want more screen brightness (outdoor screen legibility).

Don't get fooled by poorly designed bencharks and watch out for Anandtech's battery review of both phones. They measure at equal brightness, so it will be the true revelator!
[General Topics] puremind:
To help you determine which phone has what you are looking for, here is a new poll:

Top 3 most important features for you in your new smartphone

This should predict which phone will have the favours of the public (before any marketing to change the mind our of you)
[General Topics] b1nb1n2012:
If its all about design, I would go for iPhone 5 (s) or Xperia Z. If its all about features, technology, support then I would go for S4 or Note 3. I bought a n4 but sold it away after 2 days using it and got a Note 2. Totally worth it. HTC, I dont trust them, they are just as bad as LG.
[General Topics] i9100g user:
Exynos octa is not overhyped , it would be better to wait for a brief review from Anandtech before posting any crap here.

And where did those A7 cores go for battery?

any number of cores could be used at same time even all 8 cores http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191850

I can see you people are biased towards htc one in many things

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[General Topics] puremind:
I updated for processor. I will continue to update when further benchmarks appear.
[General Topics] greenmark69:
IMy next phone will be HTC

Samsung's philosophy is very engineering based - try to get all the best specs and as many software featuers as possible onto the phone.

HTC has a philosophy of making phones for sharing experiences with others. That is why they have designed a phone you can show off, with loud loudspeakers, with software that is highly integrated with social media, with a camera optimised for taking the types of pictures that people post online.

Meanwhile Sony has tried to focus on producing a stylish premium device. You can see it in their adverts for the XZ and their focus on industrial design. They have completely ignored sharing which is why they have a screen with poor viewing angles and a terrible speaker.

Personally I am most attracted by Sony's philosophy. I actually quite dislike HTC's sharing philosophy because I'm an anti-social curmudgeon. But unfortunately I think this year Sony's execution with the XZ doesn't justify the premium image. Hence my next phone will be HTC.
[General Topics] bliizzz:
A good reason to not buy the s4 is it isnt supported by CyanogenMod.

Ftw htc one
[General Topics] don728871:
Anyone quote this fool yet...if you mean change then they need to the one series failed there's not micro SD card,a smaller battery non removeable (so if your battery died your screwed).put a screen widget that anyone can easily do with cm10.1 or stock Jb ..and there not new features such as the s4.. Spec wise s4 kills the one with 8cores @1.7 and I think htc one has 1.5 quad core
[General Topics] -DarkKnight-:
Anyone quote this fool yet?

8 core is not truly 8 core on the GS4. Only 4 cores will be activated at the same time . The HTC runs on 1.7 ghz

I don't know anyone who carries 2-3 batteries in their pockets .

If you need more than 64 gb of stuff on your phone, then there is something wrong with you. Besides, SD card RW is slower than Native RW .

Regarding the features of the S4, I don't understand how any of those Gimmicks can be called useful or be called unique

"It can measure my Cholesterol "

"Cool Story Babe... Make me a sandwich"

I don't understand why you would want an overly saturated overly cold piece of crap you call a screen on the S4.

Also why would anyone want touchwiz. Of they really wanted touchwiz they could just download the launcher , the Widgets, and an Icon pack...

I can go all day

Watch who you call a fool

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[General Topics] jRi0T68:
Some people here are fighting pretty hard about a choice that only affects the individual.

I'm highly interested in both phones, both have strong points. I actually like a lot of Touchwiz features and have used them in practical situations.

If the HTC One gets excellent dev stop support, has decent audio through headphones and good battery, I may choose HTC for myself this time. However, I just don't know that it will suit my personal preferences better, and I don't GIVE A **** if anyone makes a different choice.

Do some of you want this to be like iOS where we all have the same damn device?

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[General Topics] -DarkKnight-:
I didn't like his meanness... I wont do it again

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[General Topics] jRi0T68:
I wasn't calling out any particular member, or even just on xda, or even just smartphones. It's music, audio, computers, cars, cameras, clothing, etc. A pervasive attitude that "if you don't like the same thing I like, then your the dummy." Even though they always spell you're the wrong way, hence why I did in quotes.

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[General Topics] Superpiper1972:
I chose the sensation over the SII primarily because the HP is shocking on the SII.

I'm looking to upgrade now and its again, a toss up between the Samsung/HTC flagships (i really don't like the XZ and the N4 isn't available here :( )

Again, the two units are different sides of the same coin. I'm just waiting for definitive results of the HP out before I choose :thumbup:

Pah!
[General Topics] hellmichel:
I love the HTC One.:D
[General Topics] rabies876:
HTC One. S4 is a waste of time and money.

8-core processer - battery life will be a joke
[General Topics] -DarkKnight-:
Only 4 cores will be turned on at one time... battery isn't going to be that bad

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[General Topics] combat goofwing:
UK not getting the eight core

Samsung confirms quad core S4 for UK - http://tpt.to/a3jRpSb
[General Topics] 5imp7y:
I'm so torn also. HTC one or s4 or wait for something awesome. I am up for upgrade April 1st so I'll probably get the s4....
[General Topics] badzas:
HTC is better
[General Topics] ShapesBlue:
Yea I'm sure many people think that. But why are they better? Something to support your reason would be great

Running CM10.1 on my GT-P3113
[General Topics] bliizzz:
The camera quality,build quality, sound quality :)
[General Topics] jRi0T68:
Where have you read report on headphone out on HTC One vs GSIV? I'm highly interested in that. Honestly. I'm a total audio geek.

One should really be objective in this comparison:

HTC One: aesthetics, feel of build is better, probable to have better output from external speakers

SGSIV: Internals seem better, based on past flagship devices from both mfrs., it is likely that battery will be better.

Neither one can be categorically better than the other. I'm a die-hard Samsung fan, even beyond mobile devices, but I'm highly considering HTC this year. Biggest draw back is updates from HTC, to be honest.

-Accidental Asshole aka Jeremy

[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[General Topics] JesseMT4G:
Just wait till both phones are out and head to your nearest store and test them out.

Only way you will really know, unless you know you can't live without removable battery/SD slot, then choice should be easy.

I used to be all about specs /memory and all through cool gimmicks.

Now, not so much. Just give me decent battery life, awesome screen and sound, I am good to go.

Love my s3, but ready to give HTC another round.

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[General Topics] nozz3r:
Think ill wait until my old desire dies. By then I hope there will be a fair few custom ROMs around to play around with :p
[General Topics] Thin_Bezel:
i would choose the galaxy s4 but only for that octa core cpu(pure speed and power consumption on the same time)but it looks like a lot of countries will get the quad core Snapdragon version.Here you can see all the list. http://goo.gl/Oih84
[General Topics] JkScl:
htc one is better

I hate politics samsung ..

Why not innovate after submitting Ces interesting news?
[General Topics] cry to cry:
HTC one
[General Topics] kamendra:
Launch of HTC One smartphone, which was announced last month and was expected to go on sale in third week of March, has now been delayed to April.
[General Topics] chicofee101:
S4!!! Im a fan boy!!! Lol....:D:D
[General Topics] anuseb89:
I am sure development will be faster for one compared to s4 bcz as i have heard last time cyanogenmod is not going to release for s4..so having one will be more fun.. :D
[General Topics] ashish2193:
Yeah man exynos is closed source..

And I bet this octacore processor ...i bet it goin to be huge battery sucker cuz during heavy gaming it ll be using a15 cores and cant come to a7 cores so it will heat up badly...we already kno heating in case of s2 and s3...

If it didnt...and come to a7 cores then it will be going to lag...

Lets see...

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What was bad in nexus 4
[General Topics] anuseb89:
One will be having neat processor which i think is more than enough as far as it is a mobile phone..and octa core version is only for select countries..dont know wats the criterion..as per latest news uk wont get octa version..dont know wat samsung is planning..lets wait and see.. :) but i am sure it will be one big break through in smartphone industry.. :cool:
[General Topics] moriansafas:
Why the heck are all western countries getting the quad while all the poorly infrastructered countries get the octa?
[General Topics] Teraclips:
isnt it because the Snapdragon supports 4G or LTE whatever and the Octa just does 3G? or did misinterpret the info on GSMArena?

ot: im going to get a S4, good upgrade from an S2 if you ask me