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[Galaxy S 4 General] hypergamer1231:
Well I agree the phone is reluctant to go beyond 1.4 ghz in most of the cases including as much as am loving the overall experience of 4.3 but bad move by sasung to first create hype and release a powerful device and then later to fix heating and stuff they lock it to 1.3 or 1.4 ghz sad

Here's my score on the i9500 though
[Galaxy S 4 General] dannyella:
4.3 is blazing fast.. I get over 29k+ on intellidemand.. I mean intellidemand that is not such a performer..
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Ive got some comparison pics of before and after just dont have time to post it yet. An 18k quadrant, chainfire java performance is fixed now and noticed a improvement in velamo a browser benchmark. 3dmark physics through the roof :)

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The issue is twdvfs and antutu at once... to get a fair bench of it set your min to your max on antutu, is only way it runs our full speed since an update from around when our phone came out. No other bench needs this, but this one ignores oir max since it is virtually set to a target mhz with twdvfs and then it can't reset back to normal max it is related to throttle mechanism. I woukd try to keep a cool run and set min and max to the same and you can observe thay is only way it hits your max instead of 1.4ghz. All other benchmarks are functional and do not need special way to run it to use all available frequency.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
I think it has alot ot do with the aplication too. Since Antutu went to v4 there has been a decrease in the i9500 benchmark scores.

Looks like they optimised the app to give the Qualcomm chipsets better results.

I got hold of an older version of Antutu and ran a benchmark. Then updated to v4.0.4 via playstore and voila 3K drop in performance. Benchmrks done on stock 4.3 no root and ful bloatware.

All other benchmark scores have gotten better except Antutu. 3DMark score have improved, Anomaly 2 benchmarks are High: 486 987 Med: 1 357 044 Low: 2 097 348 (Sorry cant get the palm swipe to capture a screenshot)

So I doubt its all down to just the twdvfs but the app is at play too...
[Galaxy S 4 General] dibartolodroid:
Hi guys ... How can you succeed to get 30000 on antutu benchmark ... i update from 4.2.2 to 4.3 and the max i can get is about 24000 with 4.3 ... with 4.2.2 i had about 28500 ... is benchmark a piece of **** ???

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9500 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
I think all of us I9500 users should Email the AnTuTu developers, as what they have done is unfair, how the hell can device scores suddenly drop???

Their Email addy on Play Store is: support@antutu.com

Those of you screenshots of before and after the 4.0.4 AnTuTu update should include them in the email, they must fix their app.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Ill try as I have that 30,500 score above on 4.2.2 latest antutu. Ill try for 30k again. It was a run on 1.7ghz that never throttled. For now I have 1.6 for 4.3. Unlike qualcomm users only way to get antutu to run over 1.4 ghz for the test is set mjn and max above that.
[Galaxy S 4 General] NonXtreme:
Here's my anomaly 2 benchmark score. :D

S4 with Perseus alpha12.2

CPU OC to 1.8 Ghz

GPU OC to 640mhz
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
I'm getting 30k also, while I had 27-28k before with 4.2.2.

I'm so glad with my German 9505. It worth to but it from Germany. First in getting updated, also amazing updated and Qualcomm rocks. Way more support, better optimization and OpenGL 3.0, which become native in Android :) Nobody listened me when I said 9505 is better
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
On Stock Touchwiz ROM I was easily hitting 28-29K on Antutu v3 but I got +30K on Antutu v4 but I was running Doc Rambones ROM (JB 4.2.2).

Upgrade to JB 4.3 and Antutu 4.0.4 expecting at least 29K but on my scores hover around 27K even had a result as low as 24K.

Below are my Anomaly 2 Benchmark Results. How can my i9500 achieve these results but struggle with Antutu WTF:rolleyes:

Antutu #FAIL
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
I used doc rambones rom before 4.3 almost ever since he made it months ago. No one is listening to me. Set your min and max to 1600 and stay cool run antutu. Otherwise it is stuck on 1400mhz max in that app only.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
You are basically saying that when Antutu runs the CPU never goes higher than 1.4ghz?

Is this because of a change in the application?It has to be since older versions dont have that issue.

Have you any screenshots of your Antutu 4.04. scores run on JB4.3?

EDIT: Docs ROM is the shizz! I just wish he'd come out with a new ROM already :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
That's because it isn't. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] MindBlank:
Can someone running official Android 4.3 on a i9505 post an Anomaly 2 benchmark, please?
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
Not too bad for a phone running at 1.4GHz, my score:

I hope AnTuTu fix this crap of theirs!
[Galaxy S 4 General] dibartolodroid:
This is my SGS4 benchmark ...

I9500 + I9500UBUEMJ5 + Xposed TURBO MODE+ CROSSBREEDER 4.3 ...

It's really a bad one ... :mad::mad::mad:

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9500 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
well according to verge, they said that qualcomm was the leader and produced lte chips more than any other company.. could be more cost effective for samsung as producing more exynos would have been tough as its even been stated that exynos mass production would only start by april q2...

if i was given a choice, i would choose the octa obviously because i m a geek and a spec whore :p... snapdragons are nice though....but the fact that we have devs like andreilux and the possibility of getting HMP on that chip and that we could get more manual control over the cores is kind of exciting.. what we have to look forward to is if samsung finds enough time to optimize the chip so that immature throttling doesnt occur when you do heavy tasks.. as it also has a powervr alongside it..

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[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Lol me 2 I'm getting the Octa not like I have a choice though but I'm glad that's the version I'll be getting:p

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[Galaxy S 4 General] MohJee:
For those interested in benchmarks... This is one comparing s4 with qualcom processor to other devices (spoiler: it beats every other device).

The article claims that the octa version supposedly will score higher.

http://androidheadlines.com/2013/03...e-5-and-blackberry-z10s-benchmark-scores.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] daleski75:
I saw that too and it's certainly impressive and little bit early to tell with the octa-core as it could be heavily throttled if there are issues with heat/battery life but either way the new generation of phones are making the last generation (even the Z hardware wise) look decidedly old.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
Geekbench scores compared
[Galaxy S 4 General] iampun33t:
Samsung Galaxy S 4 scores twice the iPhone 5 at benchmarks, beats all other Androids, too

Read More Here
[Galaxy S 4 General] RTBee:
This may be the wrong place to post, but I'm a little uncertain as to how the 2-quad cores work. Do they, or will they ever work together for an 8-core experience or is it one or the other depending on demand, such as the 1.8 for games and intense processes and the 1.2 for those programs requiring less and thus increasing battery life?

Also, just a side note, my GS3 runs smooth at 2.1ghz (albeit a bit of a hit to battery life), that's a 30% jump over stock. If the Qual 1.9 can do the same, that's somewhere in the neighborhood of 2.5-2.7ghz!! That now makes my phone, my phone, mind you, more powerful than my desktop computer! :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Read this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191850

And your desktop doesn't use the same processor architecture u can't compare

It's still most likely more powerful

anyways

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[Galaxy S 4 General] RTBee:
Thanks! That makes things much clearer.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
FTFY

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[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Stop spamming to get your 10 posts

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Tapatalk epic fail

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[Galaxy S 4 General] hung2900:
You can read the documentation on Samsung website.

There are 3 implementations can be used

- "Quad-core switch": only two different states switching each other, quad-core A7 an quad-core A15

- "Power-house": At the max point, all 8 cores are running. Redundant core can be closed if there is no task needing it.

- "Paired core": Most likely implementation. Each A15 core is paired to an A7 core. The system will decide either to run depending on the task. So We can have A7-A7-A7-A7, A7-A15-A7-A7 to A15-A15-A15-A15. Each core has the independent clockrate,

Samsung said that all of them are available in Exynos Octa, but the implementation used depends on the firmware, and most likely the last one is used in GS4. The "power-house" option may be available in a new Chromebook?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Livebyte:
There's a chance of a custom kernel using the 'Power Horse' and it will melt your battery down!
[Galaxy S 4 General] daleski75:
Woah that would kill the battery having all 8 cores running at the same time and also it gives a lot of scope for dev's etc to really work some magic on this phone.

I can see a lot of kernels getting developed for this phone the second it comes out.
[Galaxy S 4 General] hung2900:
Battery is not the biggest. Heating and throttling are the most difficulties for Cortex A15 processor. Maybe only when producing in 20nm process can this problem solved.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Nuukeer:
The processor is either using the A7:s or the A15:s, they don't work in tandem. The A7:s are not very powerful, so they would not contribute much either. 2.1 GHz is a 50 % jump over stock btw. And a desktop computer is still many times more powerful (>10x) than any phone that will be released within the next year. Unless you have a very, very old and crappy computer.
[Galaxy S 4 General] PLUG313:
my laptop runs at a 2.1GHz dual core

wouldn't my ex-SIII be more powerful? it had a 1.4GHz quad

all of those gigahertz summed would be more than the sum of the laptop's
[Galaxy S 4 General] hung2900:
In some benchmark that focusing mainly on multi threading, 4 Cortex A7 1.2 Ghz are equivalent to 2 Cortex A15 1.2 Ghz.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Lmao

Laptop uses x86 or 64 bit architecture

Whereas phone uses a considerably less powerful arm processor

Your pc is faster

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[Galaxy S 4 General] PLUG313:
ok, that was a lame and noob question xD

I knew that already, but I didn't think about it
[Galaxy S 4 General] theo80:
Stock 4.3

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 General] ewerthon_jp:
quadrant score! with 4.2.2 i had about 12500, with wanamlite v3, 4.3, my score ups to 17067!

lol
[Galaxy S 4 General] boterkaaseneieren:
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[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
Get that ridiculously oversized phablet thing out of here!!! :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Gs4 gti9500 android official 4.3 20k quadrant @ 1.8ghz. Got 16.2k at 1.9 in 4.2.2.

See attached pic
[Galaxy S 4 General] boterkaaseneieren:
Hihi got it yesterday. Done with Samsung.
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
4.3 is simply amazing!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
It sure is. I can't believe I broke 20k quadrant at 1.8ghz and 73k cpu subscore. Other than memory score it scores very close to that Sony model phone bench posted above. Good for Exynos 5410 still keeping up with the new releases other than gpu side of things.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
2.1ghz

4.3

I9505

Also an increase in quadrant

15255 with 13k memory + 13k i/o
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Post the quadrant whats the cpu subscore? In a day or so I can run an antutu for comparison since that is over stock ill need an over stock run for compare. But please post quadrant for cpu subscore.

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Also please go to antutu history and post the combined view that shows overall score and all subscores as well :) see few posts back for location.

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For antutu v4 the 9500 on 4.3 at 1.7 got 30,500 see few posts back. Ill try 1.7 soon again on 4.3
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
47k cpu quad

U mean u had 30,500 on 4.2.2 u said the same thing twice and u will try it on 4.3

Here is the sub score.... Real time usage MUCH MUCH more fluid.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Here is one I just did at 2ghz
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
yes correct go just a few post back look for my antutu post. Ill run it on 4.3 correct. Ibthink tommorow ill have the update to test on.
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
One of the best score I got so far with 4.3 stock (GT-I9505 32GB)

No plane mode, over 180 apps installed, 'only' 500 mb ram free.

I think I can easily get 31-32k with a fresh factory reset :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
31-32k ??

Not as easy as u think fresh restart plain mode dont do much for benchmarks. Try it u'll see

Best I got was 30790 or something . Plane mode or not same ****.. I have many apps installed ... infact on a fresh restart I got a little less 29k because I was not OC . My phone runs on 2ghz day in day out. This is why my score is in the 30ks :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kriomag:
yesterday

i run antutu on Z1 with s800: 35k nice, but 30k for s600 is also very good, i feel no need to replace my S4 for little faster phones .
[Galaxy S 4 General] DjeMBeY:
Hehe, Welcome to the Z Club :D

Sorry for OT.. :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Well nice hardware Djembey. Looks like the 9500 in cpu and multi task subsection are dping okay. This was only 1700mhz to achieve this score.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
My latest
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Where is your 4.3 score ?? Mwa86 thats your 4.2.2 :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Sure is but you can compare it the same for now. Its still latest antutu version. If anything scores will be higher on 4.3. I dont have overclock yet on 4.3 and only a test build with oc for 4.3 that doesn't have all of the control in yet. The quadrant I posted hits like the note 3 70k cpu and note at 80k cpu. Why is yours still 47k. I had 53k cpu on 4.22.

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This one here at 1.8ghz android 4.3 tw
[Galaxy S 4 General] crzykiller:
Here are my 3Dmark scores running a Snappy galaxy s4. GPU OC at 627mhz and CPU at 1998mhz. Getting just as good as the LG G2 hahaha
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Lol Why you asking me? ask the quadrant devs why your cpu jumped 20k higher on quadrant only ;) dont ask me, my scores are still consistent but my memory and I/o have increased sensibly

All I was saying is where is your 4.3 antutu... dont worry if its stock or not OC I received 28.9k stock 4.3
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
It is not quadrant only I just have not posted any bench but quadrant.

The scores I am getting are consistent as well. Dalvik is scoring same as before though for this model. Memory and I/o are no around my oc levels.

There have been boost s all over. Vellamo scores higher and Chainfire Java score is now normal like on your model. This model was getting half the performance yours was in chainfire java subsection.

Ill post the whole lot of my benches when I have em all done.

The issues of 1.4ghz being normally set in antutu as our max for my model doesn't help and its due to samsung boost and antutu. Both equally responsible. If antutu didnt set a min or max virtually nor samsung boost a full run on any 9500 would be seen at full mhz.

I have been able to run them setting min to max in order to get a run that measure max speed performance.

But I ask this... why is note 3 on the s800 scoring 80k quadrant and at stock this phone now gets 63k cpu and 73k cpu on a 200mhz overclock. Now in antutu at only 1400mhz we get the same cpu integer performance as you and at only 1700mhz the same multitasking score with higher cpu integer and similar ram scores. The largest and only true marked change in antutu for 9505 is you 8000 gpu score. It was common for that to be low mid 7000 for both of these gpus overclocked. My friend GalaxyS3man on 4.2.2 had 29k and raw intellect 30,300+ on his s600 gs4. The dalvik score he got there is same as you get now. All points he was getting high scores in are scoring same for you now on 4.3 all at same mhz. The 8k gpu is what sets it over at almost 31k now.

If a s800 in a note scores accordingly in quadrant and this exynos as well there is no reason it is not measuring accurately the same. All I can say is try the quadrant run with a 1200mhz minimum it seems thats what samsung has happening on this phone when it is run.

Velammo, quadrant, Chainfire each show substantial improvements on 4.3 for Exynos Octa in the i9500.

Anyone can run them on 4.2.2 and 4.3 to see the differences. I will gladly post them all at once when I have all ran in overclock conditions.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
I honestly have not really been looking into it that much too busy.. I only have run quadrant and antutu never checked or compared other benchmarks and other phones kinda over the s4.. ... Im just glad my phone runs buttery smooth now.

Bring on the S5 :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
That has been the biggest improvement :D user interface fluidity

Basically there seems to be general improvements across the board in performance areas on all device upgraded to 4.3. Gladly it has been delivered. I can't speak for yours but along with the overall effect of 4.3 on this model, one clear improvement has been made and its simply Java performance. It seems it has merely caught up with Qualcomms out of the box java performance.

There has been small improvement in gpu performance on this model with 4.3 but mostly stabilization. Your Adreno gpu seems to get a nice boost in performance with 4.3. See the 3dmark posted above and your Antutu run... if compared to 4.2.2 Gpu has gained many fps in 3dmark and 500+ points in gpu Antutu. Just a basic comparison.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Nicee, yeh well honestly every bit of the day to day usage has been improved for me the whole feel of the phone is awesome.. from scrolling. . Browsing.. I am now checking battery consumption differences to see if its better
[Galaxy S 4 General] Esterra:
I can' t understand, how can you guys get your quadrant score over 10k (13-14k)

The biggest ive got is around 8,9k Im using P.A.C and Chronic kernel. But the antutu score is around 28,5k.

There is a software issue with quadrant or what? :)

Even after i lock cpu freq to max, nothing changes and the cpu score is low in quadrant.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Its not your phone its the benchmark apps .Quadrant being famous for its u unusual scores sometimes and I dont think its meant for cm base.. I just use it as a quick test but I wouldn't use it if its giving out your ****. Look at 3d and 2d scores in quadrant its been roughly the same for me sinse my s3 when they should of more then doubled by now the devs have not updated that app for years I think the devs stopped supporting it. Anyways just use antutu and maybe chainfire even though none are perfect atleast there are updates and dev support. It's nonsense to have high 28.5k on antutu which actually uses more power than quadrant but then your only getting 8-9k on quadrant. I even had my s3 i9305 scoring 8k. Dw too much it has never been a serious benchmark app and is mainly used for fun
[Galaxy S 4 General] MrGamerUser:
GT-I9500 27k AnTuTu
[Galaxy S 4 General] manast:
What I dont understand is how does the 3D graphics score in Antutu decrease for I9500 after the 4.3 update?

It is the same ranking mechanism, same GPU and hopefully a better driver in the 4.3 update!
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Try overclocking your GPU btemtd run is noted at 644 mhz gpu a large gpu oc and 2000mhz a overclock fron 1890mhz stock.

The quadrant bench is not broken ill post note 3 from a team member of mine for comparison. Its aosp builds drivers tend to be not full as tw though highly light weight aosp is the drivers cauae benches on some builds to show poor performance. When I was on gs3 aosp never scored what tw build does.

Samsung boost bull is still active... my kernel normally disables it so those of you on 9500 may have throttle issues. I use Perseus kernel for those interested.

Btemtd the only broken part of Quadrant is the gpu section it scores on locked fps at 60fps vsync locked. Scores been sinilar for 2d and 3d even on my gs2 so that is clear as you mentioned. Cpu I/o and mem are not broken in quadrant.

Quadrant load quad core is lower than geekbench, chainfire and antutu. It is still above the rest of thr light cpu benchmarks. It can still crash your phone if its not stable.

This is 4.2.2 quadrant. Nothing broken here. 1900mhz run

Here is note 3 quadrant stock I believe on 4.3.

It is completely accurate in the following. The note 3 ram is larger and one step faster in mhz clear jump in ram performance. I/o benefits much like our gs4 is on 4.3. Lastly the cpu subscore marks how powerful the s800 is noted by its 80,000 cpu score. If quad was broken the s600 bigger sibling in the note 3 would equally score low.
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
When I said broken I meant quadrant is famous for being not as reliant as some others ... as you said u had a 20k increase in cpu score from 4.2.2 > 4.3 . I myself did have a slight increase , but not that drastic.. i dont know but 2 me it sounds abit unrealistic for a software update to increase it by 20k that sounds like a cpu upgrade lol. Anyway When I have time an remember ill try experiment for u but like I said I have been over the s4 for quite sometime now im just very happy 4.3 has made this phone feel so much better. Now just waiting for the next galaxy s5 .I hope Samsung is smart with the s5 and future proof it more this time so they dont have to release better variants s800 etc. within a few months of releasing the 1st variant. Hopefully the s5 brings me back into the custom xda scene ..twas fun :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Obagleyfreer:
Couldn't agree with you more, I've been over the S4 for a while too. For some reason I can't finish antutu benchmark, I get to 87% and it FC. Is it just me this happens too? I'm on PAC and KT kernel
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Your on CM base this could be the issue but im not sure . im on tw 4.3 base and man let me tell you bro.. you honestly dont need cm anymore to make the phone super fluid.. its like that now.

I have no issues on benchmarks unless I OC to tooo high off course . Also depends on the benchmark app. I can get antutu running at 2ghz I even pulled 2.1ghz. Check my signature for my specs.

For super smooth I9505 I recommend:

1.Any good tw 4.3 latest... im running

Omega 13.2

2.Comadose (optional)

3.Kt kernel

4.And some fine tuning around 2GHZ OC

Butter heaven! !!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] s.illes79:
any idea why I'm getting very poor antutu results compared to other s4's (i9505) ?

was poor before 4.3, still poor after the upgrade (which I just got )
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Maybe stock mhz scores around that much?
[Galaxy S 4 General] crzykiller:
Your phone is most likely thermal throttling because its getting too hot
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
I agree and also users on stock dont worry as muchbas the cutom kernels like KT kernel have an adjustable throttle. So unless you load such and adjust you may never get the same score even both on stock mhz. But if you load a custom kernel or not having an overall lower temp will help as crzykiller mentioned