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[One (M7) General] nickmgray:
Yes and no. All phones are developed over a 12-18 month period, but most components are not locked down until 3-4 months before launch. Since HTC does not make any of its own components, it must reply completely on other suppliers to build and ship all the pieces to them so that they can be assembled. I've done multiple case studies around suply chain efficiencies for my masters program and can say that there are a million and one things that can go wrong.

The issue is that most component suppliers run JIT (just in time) manufacturing which allows them to save money since they don't need to store their products before they are shipped out the door. While this save money for the component supplier, it causes a lot of issues when there are issues with manufacturing components. Rumor has it that the HTC Ultrapixel sensor (most likely manufactured by Sony) is experiencing an unusually high failure rate, reducing he total number of units shipped to HTC by 70%. While small production batches may have not experienced this issue, there are always growing pains when manufacturing a new custom component. The supplier will eventually reduce component failure rate, but that's an issue that can only be resolved with time.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
I hope you correct them and tell them it's a Taiwanese phone. :)
[One (M7) General] sabre31:
If end of April is true then epic fail for HTC. Their CEO said if HTC one doesn't sell good he will quit he might as well do it now. It's suicide on htc's part to release this phone same time as s4.
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
,,If only we didn’t have to dedicate a blog post to an items release…if only HTC would release on time….Well, that’s not the case, so here we are with the update for you.

As of this very second (10:54am PST 3/22) we expect the stock to arrive on 4/1 and ship same day. There is a chance that we will have the stock on 3/30, which is a Saturday. Don’t fret, we still ship on Saturdays. As of now all pre-orders placed will ship as part of the first shipment.,,

NEGRI ELECTRONICS http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...your-pre-orders-for-the-htc-one/#.UUyti0yQVb-
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
You don't know that. From past experiences all flagship phones are released one month after UK releases. So if we go by that HTC one UK release = March. US release = April. Sgs4 UK release = April, US release = May. This happened with the one x, sgs3, note 2, sensation, etc.... What's to say it will be different this time around? So if this is true then the sgs4 release will be a month after the one release.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
I just don't think you're in a position to speculate on how hard they tried to get this phone out to meet demand on time.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
How hard they tried is irrelevant. From a business perspective, announcing the phone and release timeframe without having assurance of supply and manufacturing capability is simply foolish and horrible planning. Could you imagine a company like Apple EVER doing this?!
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Crying about it won't speed up the process, just saying.
[One (M7) General] nickmgray:
The the U.S launch event, HTC said that the phone would ship in North american in March. The HTC One $100 trade-in promo details said the HTC One had to be purchased before March 31 in order to qualify. Those details were changed recently to reflect the retail launch delay.

Also, the letter sent out by HTC reads "When we originally announced the new HTC One, we communicated a March availability date but we unfortunately will not meet this date in the US. We now expect to roll out the new HTC One in North America before the end of April." This email was only sent to those who registered for the $100 HTC One trade-in promo in the united States.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
Crying about it? LOL I was stating a fact.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
Could you ever imagine Apple getting the shaft from components manufacturers?
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
Time for a stabbing? :highfive:
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Sorry was not refering to the release dates given. Was refering to the statement that the delay was devastating for HTC. My point is that we (US) won't see the sgs4 until may (a month after UK release of the sgs4 and US release of the HTC one).

Edit.

I could be wrong though. This is just based on how releases from all flagship devices have been handled in the past. That being said the US delay does not surprise me at all since it has always been released to the US A month later.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
Once again, that's not the point. The proper way to handle a launch is to have all your ducks in a row BEFORE you announce a release timeframe. HTC clearly didn't.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
I'm not speculating-- I think that's your approach. As I said before.... to me, as a consumer, it doesn't matter how hard they tried to get the phone out on time if they didn't.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
That's funny, because besides the statements from HTC saying it'll be here by the end of late April and the component shortage, everything said in this thread is speculation. "Oh HTC failed, they didn't try hard enough! HTC didn't care enough to get it out on time! HTC didn't plan for this! HTC didn't make sure everything was squared away!" How do you know any of that? For all we know, HTC was on a strict timeline and then their suppliers broke the bad news. No one knows how it truly happened.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
Huh? First they said it would be available in the US by the end of March. Then there were delays but they said the US was unaffected (which still meant by the end of March). Then we got word today that we're now projected for the end of April. Seems like you're defending the company without knowing the facts.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
I'm just sick of hearing of people saying HTC failed to do their part. It's an incredibly strenuous process designing, manufacturing and launching a product worldwide. A few hiccups here and there can trickle down the line and delay it for months.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
They specifically said in their email that "we communicated a March availability date," so even if I didn't see it somewhere, they went ahead and shared that information with me. :)
[One (M7) General] bosotros:
The good news is this is all due to the outrageous initial response and popularity of the device. It's delayed not only because of manufacturing delays but because too many people worldwide want the phone. There isn't enough for even a partial roll-out in the US after taking care of the demand in Europe. I doubt that popularity will decrease in a month or two. Even the GS4 can't dent it too much imho.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
Yes, I just told them to you!
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
Just curious... When and where did they release a statement concerning the launch date in the USA? The only thing I've seen outside of rumors and speculation is an announcement page from TMO saying we had to purchase the phone by 3/31 to be eligible for a rebate. Come to think of it any time in the past when I've been interested in a phone it's the carriers who announce dates in the USA, not the manufacturers.
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
And they have been stated over and over again, that's what I meant about crying. Stating what everyone already knows over and over again (crying) wont speed up the process.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Of course there can be unforeseen bumps in the road! But if they fail to release the One in March in North America, then they still failed to do their part. If you take a test and you get an F, you still failed... regardless of how hard you studied.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
I'm not debating the timeline for the phones being shipped. I'm saying no one here knows the ACTUAL details of why they were delayed. We heard about component delays but there could have been some corporate politics going on. Like I said, a lot of people are blaming HTC for this. I don't believe it's their fault for announcing a phone (before their biggest competitor, no less) that they truly planned on rolling out on a strict timeline and then having some setbacks. Crap happens.
[One (M7) General] NextNexus:
I was responding to someone who clearly didn't know the facts. You are clearly mistaken if you thought everyone already knew them b/c that guy clearly didn't. Either that or you have major reading comprehension issues but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
What facts did I not know? That they said it would be in the US by the end of March, and now they're saying end of April? I knew all of that. What does that have to do with WHY they were delayed? I don't see what you're getting at.

I honestly don't even know what we're arguing about anymore. Everyone is pissed off that the phone is delayed. I'm just attempting to point out that this is not as much HTC's fault as some people seem to think it is.
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
What you and other are saying about HTC failing in this thread has been said numerous times. So everyone on here keeping up with the thread already know this. No need to repeat what has already been said. If you feel that someone has not read the thread and are asking questions about something that has already been answered then teach them how to use the search function so we dont fill up the thread with the same info repeated over and over.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
Pardon me, but are you saying that if someone has said something once, no one should say it again? Maybe I'm the one with reading comprehension issues. Just curious as to why you think someone would search the thread to see if someone has said "HTC blew it", or "it's been delayed".
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Apparently we all just need somewhere to place our anger at not having the phone in our hands.
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
At this point they should probably have a whole second announcement in April of the phone. Because NOBODY outside of tech Blog readers and people in the cell phone industry are even aware of the phone. It's sad. Of they have any chance they will have to sell this thing at $99 on contract like they did last year after the gs3 came out.
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
In european markets starts on 29 march,in u.s market start 30 march or 1 april.. just 3 days, guys...
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
No but if has been said lets say 10 times in the previous two pages, then the person who is asking a question or has a concern with something that has already been covered has obviously not been keeping up with the thread. I'm not saying you have not been keeping up and I agree with almost everything that you have stated in in your previous posts.
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
I guess you didn't get the email.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
It still COULD happen... right? Technically speaking, "by the end of April" means any time from right now until April 30th. Although I guess I should just stop crossing my fingers at this point and pass my time doing something more productive. :(
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
On negri electronics you can order from 1 of april (one hour ago) http://www.negrielectronics.com/blo...your-pre-orders-for-the-htc-one/#.UUy6o0yQVb-
[One (M7) General] yokken:
Lol yeah, $900 for a 64gb from Negri. I'll wait.
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
Oh he was talking about pre-orders? I'm not sure I would have picked up that from his post :P You can pre-order it from me right now if you want! Lol.
[One (M7) General] crawlgsx:
I took my lack of patience out on my wallet. I went and picked up a BB Z10 to play with until the One gets here. Problem solved :good:

I would rather be using the One right now but patience is definitely not my strong suite, and it doesn't change anything, just another toy to play with for now.
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Didn't you post this in another thread

the S4 and HTC One are two different phones.. We know that, but people hate waiting "for the next big thing"
[One (M7) General] mang0:
You should consider pursuing a career as a motivational speaker.

I would be interested in seeing the comparison of durability between polycarbonate and aluminum. I've always had the impression that polycarbonate would be a better outer shell for constant impact, as there's a greater degree of flexibility. I think that would make a big difference as to what phone would sell to the general population vs. xda society. In which case, I think HTC took a solid step in wanting to market their phone to "techmaniacs."

You don't see the spaces? :eek:
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
Why do they have red????

Also is this international version?
[One (M7) General] LaBigBro:
BOOM! Nice one.
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
I know with the manufacturing issues it's tough luck, but they shouldn't have said that the US was not affected by the delay if it could turn out to not be true.
[One (M7) General] LaBigBro:
I totally agree, but I don't think HTC actually made that statement. I think it was folks saying HTC said that--essentially hearsay.
[One (M7) General] katamari201:
What anger? I make posts when I'm bored. :p There's so many other phones to look forward to. It's an endless cycle after all. The HTC One might turn out to be a blip in the smartphone timeline at this point.

Blip Blip Blip.

Oh I'm not sure if it was apparent already, but the US release is getting delayed to April or longer and HTC can't get enough components because they have been downgraded as a client among suppliers. Their phone is also a pain in the ass to make and they weren't smart enough to prioritize manufacturability. They won't be competing against with Apple or Samsung with these shipment numbers. Maybe BLU or Alcatel. Is it the end for HTC?
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Well you weren't part of that argument where everyone was getting all defensive about everything. :p All I wanted was to get a new phone when my contract expired in January. I was like, "oh yay, HTC M7 in March!" But no...
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
HTC is doing fine and continues to grow every year. Not worried.
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
ummmmm..where are you getting your facts from
[One (M7) General] yokken:
They posted a $30m profit last quarter or something like that. Don't remember where I read it, but they posted a profit. Not a loss.
[One (M7) General] budeone:
My LTE is running fine so another month isn't terrible. I just want it, I don't need it like when I was going from the 4g to the 3d.

Who am I kidding, I want it now!!
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Yeah but something like 8 consecutive quarters of less profit each quarter. Hopefully they can turn it around
[One (M7) General] PapaRhino:
I'm going from 4G to One..I really want to get this phone ASAP Q.Q
[One (M7) General] BrianBaker:
Yeah they are still making money but growth is on the decline as mentioned above me.Quarter over Quarter they are bringing in less and less..It's bleeding for sure but still has a pulse..The One will either make them or break them.They don't need to beat Samsung,they need to beat themselves..The One just needs to keep their profits even from last year and build off of that.Just stop the drop should be the goal.
[One (M7) General] sabre31:
HTC one release = EPIC FAIL

Nuff said
[One (M7) General] xGary:
Lmao who told you that? Their Q4 earnings dropped 91% from last year.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Gladly wait for The One instead of just another Sammy piece of crap.

Samsung, iPhone what's the difference? Everyone and their mother has one. Great devices for mindless sheep.

Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
[One (M7) General] dragzer223:
I honestly think we were meant to get it in April..all the rumors got out of hand lol. S'all good though. I could deal with this crappy Samsung for another month...no biggie!
[One (M7) General] primo37:
I received a mail from HTC President Jason Mackenzie concerning the HTC One :

It'll be end of April for american market, sorry for you
[One (M7) General] dwd3885:
No way. First I've heard of this! Thanks for the exclusive. :-\
[One (M7) General] Rumball:
Seriously?! Oh how people so easily forget (or spout nonsense without any knowledge)

Cases in point:

http://www.iphonefaq.org/archives/972215

http://m.digitaltrends.com/computing/apple-27-inch-imacs-delayed-until-january-2013/

And...yes the HTC One is available for purchase today, just not in the U S of A. Deal with it.

Epic fail? I don't think so....they've created a product that have wound up grown (I presume) men into such a tizzy that they are behaving like spoiled kids that cannot wait for Christmas morning to arrive.
[One (M7) General] c5satellite2:
Camera alone will be worth the wait. Sample photos from it are stunning and easily the best we have seen from a phone. Be patient, only a few more weeks.

Sent from the HOXL dimension of S-OFF
[One (M7) General] bosotros:
The email says "by" the end of April, meaning all the pipelines will be filled, preorders shipped and allotments in the stores before the end of the month. It could be that carriers will see stock in the first or second week of April, in fact that's more likely than the third or fourth week.

Like Halleys comet... it's coming.

I was about ready to order a One X+ from Ebay until the poster above mentioned the camera. Then I remembered how stupid I would feel when I had to buy another phone in a few weeks.
[One (M7) General] zcui:
It's been 6 weeks after announcement and they are only able to release it in 3 countries (UK, Germany and Taiwan). The rest of the world in next 4 weeks? I don't think so. Even with US being considered as a major market, late April is the earliest date we can expect, and I won't be surprised if it comes after S4 in May.
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
Sad but true.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
And since samsung announced the S4 a week ago and if it will be released on the 1st week of may on EU(EU get's phones 1 month ahead over other countries) that makes S4 6 weeks after announcement also. So......?
[One (M7) General] crawlgsx:
Well IF his guess is correct I think his point is 6-7 weeks from Announcement to US release for S4, 10-11 weeks from Announcement to US release for HTC One.
[One (M7) General] br1an:
Can't wait for this phone to be released!

Finally a worthy upgrade from my HTC EVO :laugh: :laugh:
[One (M7) General] nabzilla1990:
Has anyone called T-Mobile US?
[One (M7) General] yokken:
Try using the "Search this thread" function :)
[One (M7) General] makomek:
Guess those 3 countries are their best seller , Do you know that American peoples are very behind on technology? Most people here don't care about hi-tech phone I still see alot of peoples with dumb flip phones and iPhone (job supply it to them for free), If the phone can make call,texting,and can surf the web they are fine cause carrier here in the state has fast data not like other countries where they want newest phone just for looks so they can show off to attract chicks or be cool just holding it and most of those countries only have 2G data speed :laugh:
[One (M7) General] Rumball:
Please educate yourself. I will help : http://www.worldtimezone.com/4g.html
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
lol! Can't believe this is coming from a android user! And not only that a xda-member also :silly:
[One (M7) General] doschico:
Abandon your shopping cart

The whole world wants this phone and HTC is just a niche player. Demand will kick QC in the nutts and it's all a downward spiral from there. Sad, as I think this phone is awesome.
[One (M7) General] jotha:
cleaned thread a bit. Please refrain from personal attacks.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
This is SCIENCE people
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
You guys really need to stop guessing dates.. HTC said end of April, where do you guys get March 30th and first week of April from
[One (M7) General] jngtt:
wishful guessing?
[One (M7) General] Wasuhz:
No way you did that

I am not going to sugar coat it, with this statement...you officially went full retard.
[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
Write much?
[One (M7) General] droidiac13:
Lay off the guy and ignore if you don't like someone's post.
[One (M7) General] LaBigBro:
Calling someone a retard is retarded.
[One (M7) General] Witek_M:
That mangled Heineken cap says it all:(
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Sometimes stupid needs a response
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Calling sometime retarded is retarded unless said retarded person is retarded.
[One (M7) General] msterner123:
This thread is going to be closed if this bickering dosnt stop. Please only post useful information.
[One (M7) General] MarkAtHome:
Hi YoungAceAtlanta -- HTC originally announced that the phone would be released March 30th (I received an email from HTC on Feb 19), and delayed it, after MWC 2013, to avoid conflict/competition/you_choose with Samsung releases of the Galaxy S III and the Note II in March. ;)
[One (M7) General] waltnich:
HTC One $100 Trade Up

I can't get this page to work in win8 ie10 or chrome or on my Asus tf700 browser or the chrome app - how about you?

www.htc.com/us/smartphones/htc-one/signup
[One (M7) General] AttachedSilver:
Will the Dev edition come out when the 32GB comes out?
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Bickering? Ain't no one got time for that
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
That was the best comment I've seen in this forum.

Those others..................................... Haha
[One (M7) General] tokenwoken:
Sorry if this was mentioned before, but if we chose to participate in the pre-order to get $100 back in visa gift card, do we get more time to buy the HTC One because of the delays? I haven't heard any mention of it from the HTC website.
[One (M7) General] mrrogers1:
Yes, it was extended IIRC to April 26th but you should be able to see the new date o the the Trade Up site somewhere.

THE TRUTH ABOUT ASSAULT WEAPONS
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Just for reference, here's the link to the T&C page for that offer:

http://www.htctradeup.com/htcone/?q=terms_of_use

"Limited-time offer expires on or before April 4, 2013 or sooner and may end without prior notice....you must purchase and activate a new HTC One by April 30, 2013 and mail in your used Device with a valid Proof of Purchase of your HTC One (copy of UPC or invoice/ receipt showing the IMEI) post marked by May 31, 2013"
[One (M7) General] nabzilla1990:
talked to t-mobile they said they will make an announcement in the next few days and will come out mid april dont believe them but thats what they said
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
This is all stupid, end of march and still no date has been set for its release. Yea j know they have said mid to late April but that still in the air. Watch it get delayed again
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
My guess is pre-order this Friday or Monday. April fools day.:banghead:
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
If they do that and its a joke I'll leave HTC...
[One (M7) General] WA_Bob:
ROFL! I can see that happening unintentionally. Would be quite amusing :cyclops:
[One (M7) General] samiam222:
That would be funny.
[One (M7) General] phatty033:
i spoke to a best buy manager and he said at this point, they might not even do preorders for it, especially if it comes out @ the end of april.

makes sense.
[One (M7) General] kirdroid:
Why does anyone pre order from best buy? They suck and just take pre orders but will always ship late than anyone else.
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
I'm guessing you had a bad experience?

I go because they have

Instant rebates

Rewards points=cash

Readily available accessories

No hassles (when buying outright)

Insurance whatever they call it today

Can combine deals through promotions

Will let me return just about anything

Preorders have been smooth

Gives me a good excuse to buy other toys

:):D:p:rolleyes::beer::cool::banghead::thumbup::)
[One (M7) General] Turb0wned:
Isn't it more expensive to buy outright at best buy than just walking into an AT&T or T Mobile store?
[One (M7) General] lawnguy:
Same price as carrier. And I have to say I agree with ryno. Every phone I've purchased pre order or not from best buy has been a great experience. I recommend it to anyone.