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[One (M7) General] cdd543:
Yes their full retail is $120-$150 more than the carrier. Sometimes they will price match, but YMMV as sometimes they don't know what the hell their own policies are.

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I see Negri just moved their initial batch date to April 15...
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
I was able to get my EVO LTE price matched. Radio Shack had it cheaper and Best Buy gave an additional discount on top of matched price.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
They priced matched the dna for me
[One (M7) General] cdd543:
I know--I wasn't saying it has never happened. I've had the same store do a price match, then a few months later refuse all the way up to the manager so in my experience Best Buy isn't 100% guaranteed to come through in that regard. I prefer to buy through them since I'm a reward silver member, but my last few mobile experiences with them have really been terrible.
[One (M7) General] robertopod1968:
I would use them but they can't do business accounts is what I'm always told
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
That sucks. I routinely go to the same location which is a Magnolia store, and I think it helps because they are larger and more in tune with the now. Even if you get a bozo who's green and spews nonsense at least further up the chain there's a Mgr that's more experienced.
[One (M7) General] droidiac13:
This is true. I prefer BB, but if they can't get my business phones, I can't use them...
[One (M7) General] WA_Bob:
That would be funny - Launch day going from April fools day to Tax Day in the USA......... :silly:

And now that T-Mobile USA has announced a May 1 launch date for the SGS4, it would be HTC's last real chance to get out in front of the Samsung marketing Tsunami.
[One (M7) General] cdd543:
Yeah I essentially have to drive to a different location to get proper service. The one I've had issues with is a smaller location and they seem to burn through a lot of employees so I'm sure that doesn't help.

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Hah good point--I didn't think about that. They are getting dangerously close for sure.
[One (M7) General] SteelH:
Apparently tmobile is going to have the ONE for $99.

LINK
[One (M7) General] ayman86:
99 down payment and 20/month for the next 24 months. so 580
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Yes I did it over the phone with a corporate agent. Best buy stores are notorious for being unorganized.
[One (M7) General] mchinand:
Is that $20/month on top of the service (cell/data) plan monthly cost? Or is this just like any other subsidized phone purchase that requires a 2-year contract?
[One (M7) General] ayman86:
20/month on top of your service.
[One (M7) General] droidiac13:
Yes, on top of the plan.

http://androidtechy.com/index.php/11-carrier-news/2-t-mobile-kills-off-the-wireless-contract.html
[One (M7) General] trineomorph:
Not looking good. The fact that T-Mobile US has a firm date for the GS4 but not the HTC One, shows that HTC has no idea when the phone will be available in the states. I'll be surprised if the phone comes out in April in the US.
[One (M7) General] WA_Bob:
That would be a nice deal...... If T-Mobile had any coverage where I work or even at home..... :eek:

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No - not looking very good at all. :(
[One (M7) General] eXplicit815:
I know they were saying that the 32GB and 64GB version will depend on carrier preference. I wonder if they're retailing it for $99 because they'll be getting the 32GB version and will probably offer the 64GB version for $199 later? I also wonder what this means for Sprint and what they'll be offering as far as prices are concerned.
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
This may have already been posted, but HTC will be announcing the official release date for the One on Friday.
[One (M7) General] iamfightaa:
Source ?
[One (M7) General] WA_Bob:
Woot! We'll finally have FACTS to argue about! :D

Talkin' Tap from dis here brainy fone
[One (M7) General] Wasuhz:
Not sure how much this means

At least we're seeing a branded carrier phone in the US now. Not released yet...but something. Not sure how much it means but heres a branded t-mobile HTC One

http://cnettv.cnet.com/mobile-bestows-4g-lte-onto-htc-one/9742-1_53-50143626.html
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
Jason Mackenzie tweet... "communicated officially on Friday."
[One (M7) General] Cho Namath:
Are you sure he's not talking about the email he sent out *last* Friday?
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
Yeah, I'm sure.
[One (M7) General] PopArtist:
Erm, so I read that tweet and it reads to me the Friday communication was last week's communication - how are you sure?
[One (M7) General] phatty033:
refers to that email sent out last week on friday regarding the delay.
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
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Maybe I read it wrong, but it was a direct response to a question about the date the release date will be announced.
[One (M7) General] JesseMT4G:
I know I just read them testing the T-Mobile One on the new LTE service and had blistering speeds, more so that the iPhone 5.

So that should be a good sign its just around the corner.....hopefully!

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
The problem with that deal is, the device will cost you full price.
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
The reason it costs full price is because T-Mobile charges way less for service while other carriers subsidize through higher monthly service
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Yup, I'm with tmo myself. I just think contract is better.
[One (M7) General] gobaers:
If an xda reader needs this explained to him, T-Mobile is going to have an uphill climb changing the wireless marketplace.

Being in a Sprint family plan, I'm interested to see what their pricing will look like in response to T-Mobile. Here's hoping for a price war.

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But, don't you want the ability to leave by buying out the phone (similar to the ETF, but much more clear-cut)? And the ability to pay the lower price after the device is paid off? I don't see why you would think lack of flexibility is better, beyond behavioral psychology.

Am I missing something?
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
T-Mobile just launched their new plans. Here's a link http://www.tmonews.com/2013/03/editorial-t-mobiles-new-plans-are-awesome-for-everyone/

As for expensive phones, they have sort of a personal loan type situation. You pay like 99 down and a certain amount each month based on credit approval.
[One (M7) General] JesseMT4G:
I just read it on a pulse app from I believe CNET where it breaks down the savings from a normal 2 year contract to the new way T-Mobile is doing it and was almost 800 dollars in savings.

That's crazy! I personally can't wait to implement this.

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
I been with T-Mobile for a lil over ten years. I have no plans of leaving T-Mobile service. I rather pay discount for the device.
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
He doesn't realize he's already paying full price for the phone. He thinks he's getting it at discount because the price of the phone isn't shown on his bill.
[One (M7) General] JesseMT4G:
And that will be a huge headache for T-Mobile in having to explain to the masses.

I fully understand it and will be either getting this phone or the Note 2.

Its basically the same thing, but not in contract and once phone is paid off the bill will actually go down.

The only problem with that is, I will want a new phone in two years, lol! Never ending cycle.

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
Well, the way I look at it is, the amount that it would cost to pay off the phone in one year tacked on to the monthly service bill would actually be the same price or slightly cheaper than what I'm paying now with Sprint. So this actually gives me the option to upgrade every year, and also cash when I sell the current phone.
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
It will be very tough to explain because the people who it will help the most are the people who are going to fight it. IMO the only people it really benefits are the people who keep their phone longer than 2 years or the uninformed who sign a 2 year contract to get a discount on an $89 phone.

It's really just another way to skin a cat for those of us who purchase an upgrade the second we are eligible.
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
Just remember think of the stupidest person you know and realize there is someone twice as stupid. And they make up a huge chunk of the population.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
I have to say HTC's marketing is just horrible. Look at what LG did in time square right above the Samsung ad's. That was brilliant. HTC should have made an announcement today.
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
you are a few days late buddy..

But one of my friends was hanging with a manager of a ATT store and said the device will be released on the 22nd so...but we know how that goes
[One (M7) General] bigblue95z:
Store managers don't know squat, no matter what they try to convince you of. They don't make any decisions and are not there as a tech/procurement liason. Take what you hear from them with a grain of salt. AAAAANNNNNDDDD.... You're hearing it 3rd hand. From someone who probably heard it from someone else. They don't know, and any attempt to convince you otherwise, is just blowing smoke up your arse. :good::good:
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
That's why i added "we know how that goes"

back to playing the waiting game
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
HAHAHAHAHAH yes! i agree with you =)

which rumor ? that verizon wouldnt be getting the one?
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
The rumors are that Verizon will get the one by the end of this month
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/03/14/verizon-htc-one-release-date-pegged-for-march/
[One (M7) General] cdd543:
It seems like HTC has taken a risk not at least starting pre orders prior to the SGS4 announcement. If I was Samsung I'd hit the stage with preorder and launch dates. I'm sure plenty of people will waiver or be won over by samsung and the marketing crush that will come behind the reveal.
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
if the S4 comes out next week.. and HTC still leave us states in the blue.. yeah people going to jump ship..

You're company is already in a hole and you want to start shipping delays? just bad luck or bad business
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
that's the thing about rumors. its like your favorite team. you want to believe them.

I have been with Verizon for a while and they are pretty ruthless. I think they have decided to go with the one after seeing the appeal the phone is generating. The excuse that they were just doing extra testing is ridicules.

and really it wouldn't make much sense to launch the phone two months from now.

They are also complete control freaks. I have sprint also and some of the software features in sense 4+ that Verizon have hidden is just bizarre. like the button remapping in settings/display and the power saving option in settings/power. Generally there is some sort of vague Financial return to carriers tweaks and Verizon has a lot of those also but some just make no sense. So I'm speculating but Verizon doesn't just arrive late to the party. They don't operate that way.

This was a recent decision in my opinion. At least to leave the phone alone and not ruin it with a the lamest marketing term on the planet "droid". And then make it red.

Be interesting to see how this plays out.

edit: In case it didn't show I absolutely loathe how Verizon does business.
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
so you agree this is all verizons fault, assholes =P

has anyone seen this?http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Unlocked-4-7-inch-Quad-core-Surprise/dp/B00BOG1MS8/ref=pd_sim_sbs_cps_1
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Yeah. I saw that. A little pricy

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I get like twelve hundred a year in best buy cards through work. That's why I have to many damn phones lol
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
hmm... thats what i would get if i had those gift cards =) im guessing this phones going to be around 250 with tax and everything after contract once it comes out.. now if it doesnt come out for another month, would it be worth spending an extra 900 bones on it? =0
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
900? Not following you. Where would you pay that? I buy Verizon phones outright to keep unlimited data. 600 and 650 for 64gb. I'm happy with my dna tho. Getting rid of sprint as their data is **** in Cleveland.
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
talking about the amazon phone, thats strange with att i can sign up for a new contract and keep my unlimited data o0 verizon wont let you do that?
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Don't forget unlocked phone is coming from htc.

No you lose unlimited with a subsidized contract.
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
that sucks ATT hasnt started doing that yet, there was a trick for att to get unlimited data does anyone know if that still works actually? using an iphone
[One (M7) General] msterner123:
I just checked T-Mobiles web site. I don't see the "One " anymore. It used to say "coming soon ". Interesting and troubling.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Its still up on best buys site
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
http://htc.t-mobile.com/new-htc-one-phone
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
T-Mobile's new pricing is hella confusuing and will people really care? Their VARS are still continuing with the contracted plans which makes it even more confusing. This is an internal document from Costco telling their employees how to position their contracted plans as just as good as T-Mobile's own non-contracted plans. Is it only me or does it sound like a really bad idea to have your VARS pushing a different product with different pricing then you're selling yourself? And if it gets too complicated and VARS' lose sales because of "$99 down" at T-Mobile direct vs "$199 outright" for the same device on contracted plans they'll just push AT&T and VZW. And I'd imagine a good chunk of T-Mobile's business comes from VARS. And T-Mobile's BYOD pricing is higher than AT&T's Family Share plans and AT&T doesn't require a contract either if you BYOD. You've got to give T-Mobile credit for having steel balls though.
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
Well crap, I'm a former longtime customer of T-Mobile and I LOVE those pricing plans, but their data network is way too sketchy where I'm at to risk it. That, and the fact that their coverage map doesn't distinguish between HSPA+ and LTE. That's really too bad, I could easily get away with paying $60 a month and having 2.5 GB data.
[One (M7) General] chiensibut:
does the HTC ONE DEV version works on the new LTE network TMobile just roll out yesterday?
[One (M7) General] PopArtist:
They may have finally swayed me away from my nearly 10 year old grandfathered plan for this because it includes no restrictions (besides the your total data limit) or extra cost to use mobile hotspot, for the same price as what I am paying now with no hotspot. As I average 600-700MB data a month on my phone I would have almost 2 gigs available to use through hotspot when I need to. Would save me from paying for hotel wifi when I travel and let me use the web on my tablet occasionally while on my bus commute. Still have a year on my contract though, so I doubt they will let me switch to a "no contract" plan yet. I'm 99.99% of the time in a major city with good coverage so the network works fine for me.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
My fear is to get stuck with tmobile in a never ending wait for 4g like with sprint. Are they keeping their current 3g network through their upgrade period? I know in my area sprints 3g went to absolute ****.
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
I went through the checkout process and Hotspot was an additional fee.
[One (M7) General] gsmumbo:
I live in Dallas Tx. We don't have LTE but we do have "4G" aka HSPA+. I was pulling 28 down last night so if you have HSPA+ I wouldn't worry too much :)
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Awesome thanks.
[One (M7) General] Wasuhz:
Thats crazy

I've never seen those speeds except with LTE...you sure thats HSPA?
[One (M7) General] Du22ty:
It's HSPA+ 42
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
I work all over Dallas Ft Worth and have gotten beautiful LTE in areas. Try Mockingbird station or 35 @ Walnut hill. I even get LTE in Greenville Lewisville and North Ft Worth.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1778714
[One (M7) General] PopArtist:
I just did too for the 2.5G plan and it didn't add any extra for that and each screen said the plan included mobile hotspot. Did you pick the unlimited data plan, because that is the one plan where only 500 MB mobile hotspot is included, and you have to pay extra to get more in an add-on.
[One (M7) General] gsmumbo:
Yup. I can only imagine what LTE on T-Mobile looks like.
[One (M7) General] RJEvans:
This thread isn't about T-Mobile, but I can't switch to a provider that is losing subscribers every quarter. Yes they are posting a profit but until T-Mobile can prove to me they can attract customers I won't switch. I've done the math and it looks like I could save several hundred dollars over a two year period. Who wouldn't want that? My contract with AT&T isn't up until next year so t-mobile has until then to sway me.
[One (M7) General] Thegreatheed:
I thought I read it was just subscription customers they were losing, but were gaining a good number of pre paid customers.

Not that it matters anymore, it's all prepaid now with T-Mobile.
[One (M7) General] Witek_M:
Can you elaborate. What device? Location? Screenshot? My Galaxy Nexus shows up as having HSPA+ connection on T-Mobile but best speed I ever get is around 8/2.5 megs.
[One (M7) General] notsointeresting:
Shout out to all the people who live in Dallas :beer:

Sorry, had to :P
[One (M7) General] Witek_M:
Cheers:highfive:
[One (M7) General] gsmumbo:
Not sure why it chose the Boston server. I was in Plano, Tx though(Part of the greater DFW metroplex). Used my newly purchased Nexus 4(which doesn't get LTE) running on T-Mobiles HSPA+ network. I'd imagine the HTC One which supports LTE will match or even beat this :)
[One (M7) General] Witek_M:
Thanks for sharing. This gives us idea about raw network capability.
[One (M7) General] iamfightaa:
t-mo HSPA+ is blazing fast, its even faster sometimes than AT&T LTE in south florida at least.
[One (M7) General] jngtt:
AT&T LTE might not be as fast as we want but do we really need that kind of speed? the last I checked its faster than my 16Mb cable
[One (M7) General] polo045:
htc one next week...iii

jjjjj
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Why would you do that
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
I trust you, but I don't trust the system
[One (M7) General] jngtt:
Ebay has jacked up prices on the HTC ONE and still has to wait for a release date, that made my day
[One (M7) General] PopArtist:
Well it feels like the current April 4th deadline to preregister is the final one, so starting pre-orders right after would not be unreasonable to expect.
[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
My unlimited everything T-Mobile plan was $65/mo while my wife's on AT&T was $125/mo.

We just cancelled her AT&T and brought her into a family plan, unlimited everything for $90 total a month for both of us... that's a $100 saving per month!!

I think there are some things the T is doin right.
[One (M7) General] anit77:
"AT&T has quietly announced pre-order details for the Galaxy S4: pre-orders start on April 16, and the phone will cost $249.99 with new two-year contracts."

It's pretty disturbing that we haven't heard them say a thing about the One since Feb 19th...
[One (M7) General] phatty033:
if the one releases after the s4, htc can go lay in their coffin.
[One (M7) General] Marcismo55:
Agreed.
[One (M7) General] jkforce:
To me, faster speed is always plus and wanted. You can settle with your current speed.
[One (M7) General] Duffmantp:
I am currently working on the T-mobile modernization project to 4g/LTE in the NY Metro area. The project is really moving across all major cities right now. So many of you T-mobile users will notice a speed increase soon. Also, the LTE is not turned on for T-mobile, we are installing the radios and equipment needed for LTE but its not turned on as of yet. I also believe that is the same for ATT LTE.
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
Att go lte in cali ... but what's the news On the one ? Anything or are we still in the dark
[One (M7) General] Duffmantp:
All carriers are in the process of working on their infrastructure. T-mobile is the biggest thing going right now because of the $6B failed merger with ATT. ATT was only buying T-mobile for their spectrum. T-mobile will be using the 1700 spectrum for LTE when its finally turned on. 2g will eventually be turned off. 3g will stay up on the 850/1900 bands.

If 3g went to **** in your area, it could because they turned off the site to make the upgrade for 4g/LTE. Once the work is complete the techs make sure that the 2g/3g is up and taking traffic before leaving.

Sprint is working on their upgrade called Sprint Vision. Basically trying to get up to HSPA+.
[One (M7) General] ydoucare:
*Network Vision. Sprint is actually replacing all legacy panels/antennas, radios, base stations, and ancient T1 backhaul on nearly every cell site they operate (except for maybe 1% or less) - a MUCH bigger project than any other carrier by a LONG shot. Spectrum is the only thing holding back Sprint capacity-wise, and that should get a bit of a boost when they starting deploying LTE on the old 800 Mhz Nextel spectrum and release some phones that support it.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
I wouldn't mind nailing them myself after I get my HTC One lol!
[One (M7) General] Rumball:
Not quite sure how you came upon this premonition. Seems to me that rational people would purchase the better product regardless of what inferior products are available before hand for the same price. Assuming that they are informed through advertising.
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
We haven't heard any US carrier talk about the HTC One release date or pre-order.. But we hear about the S4..

I'm telling you guys... It's just bad PR on HTC side.
[One (M7) General] droidiac13:
First, I'm in the same boat when it comes to your point and I'm waiting. However, if society has shown us anything, the instant gratification people want takes over their thought process. And, we all know how HTC advertises...
[One (M7) General] epsix:
T-Mobile US is pumping Iphone 5 release on April 12th and nothing on the HTC One...T-Mobile don't take HTC One seriously.:mad:

Tapatalk 2 ;)
[One (M7) General] Ryno_666:
Was listening to NPR yesterday and heard this. http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcon...1695/samsungs-on-a-roll-but-can-it-beat-apple

I'm only interested in htc device's they've proved to be superior in my book. However very good marketing strategy on Samsung's part. Manufacturing parts for other companies only to learn how to make themselves and outsell competition.
[One (M7) General] phatty033:
they also announced the s4 released date, may 1.
[One (M7) General] droidiac13:
Let's face it, those two phones are going to be what helps tmo continue on. Also, I'm wondering if HTC has told the carriers when they can expect the One yet.
[One (M7) General] phatty033:
you're right, but most of the general public isn't informed, and they will choose the bigger brand.

I myself will be getting the one, however i don't need a premonition to tell me that the s4 will sweep the floor with the one in terms of sales regardless of release date. If htc was smart, they would've released the one already and it wouldn't be hit as hard. The fact that the s4 already has a release date and it's over a month away and the one is still advertised as "coming soon" speaks volumes.