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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm a very heavy S Pen/S Note user and began using them on the Note 10.1. I got the N2 primarily so I could have S Pen/S Note with me all the time without having to lug around my tablet as my S Notes are synced between them. To me, there are only two reason to buy a N2 - 1) S Note, S Pen, multiview, and Airview for their productivity benefits, and 2) the 5.5" display to make it kind of dual-purpose tablet/phone. It kind of amazes me how many people bought it because it was the next upgraded Samsung device released after the SGS3. If it weren't for S Pen/S Note I wouldn't put up with a device the size of the N2 and don't need a 5.5" display because of my Note 10.1. You do need a display at least as big as the N2's to do any serious inking on it and to use multiview in any meaningful way. So my fondness for the N2 runs deeper than the "ploinks" and "tinks” and using the lock screen water feature as a Zen garden. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] riz157:
The only feature I prefer on the S4 over Htc One is ext memory but sadly that isn't enough to convince me to buy S3 sorry I meant S4. The biggest disappointment is plastic, I refuse to pay 500+ for plastic again. It was acceptable last year because S3 was really innovative and impressive. Also android phones were not so much about premium build devices. This year however android has a good looking premium build phone in htc one packed with real improved features. If it wasn't for htc one I might buy S4 then again I'd probably wait for note 3.

Another major reason I wouldn't get S4 is amoled, hd or not it feels poor. Apparently samsung trying to ditch amoled for lcd and I think that's a fantastic move.

So plastic and amoled = no thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Completly agree with you.

Aluminum is not always best I am sort of more comfortable with polycarbonate.

Also adapt display looks good,that would get rid of saturated colours.

Looks like a complete package for me.

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[Galaxy S 4 General] Dannyada1988:
From the specs, you can find that S4 is better than HTC One in terms of processor and the battery.For the software, the smart features and the floating touch are really kind of fiction effects.Of course HTC One has its own special feature, but really Samsung Galaxy S4 attracts me more.
[Galaxy S 4 General] riz157:
Yes it comes down to personal preference.

For some gimmicky software tweaks are enough for others looks and build quality.
[Galaxy S 4 General] lopri:
S4 is superior in just about every aspect that I can think of. Even the aesthetics, that HTC boasts, are somewhat ruined on the One due to its belly. (convex back) If I cared for strictly aesthetics, I'd rather go with Xeperia Z.

Seriously, I can't think of anything that HTC excels at compared to S4. Oh, and as to the performance - 200 Mhz advantage of S4 probably doesn't mean anything, but memory controller and DDR3 do. I've watched quite a few hands-on videos, and S4 is just faster even for simple UI navigation.

Said that, I am not getting either one. At least not anytime soon. My Nexus 4 is only about ~3 months old. But for others who I care, I would buy/recommend/gift S4 without hesitation. It's the first Android phone that I can feel comfortable gifting to someone else barring unforeseen developments. (Maybe 2nd, I would have recommended Note 2 for whoever is comfortable with phablets)

I just don't see the competition between the S4 and the One. Aesthetics? Give me the Xperia Z instead of the One.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
Look at the pocketnow review for both htc one vs Note 2 camera. You can see that the One only time to overtake the n2 in quality shots is in low lights. The camera and design that's all they defend, now that the camera quality is out, aluminum is their only argument

Swyped from another galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 General] lopri:
Near-completely sealed off with wireless charging, waterproof, bendable bodies, 3d playback or even projection/hologram? There are lots of ways going about it. Software side is still far off. Samsung brought a lot of half-cooked ideas to the table, but things as "simple" as voice recognition still has a long way to go.
[Galaxy S 4 General] sxi200:
I just called BMW and told them if they want me to pay top dollar for their cars then I want it to be made of premium products, not plastic.

So they're going to replace the plastic bumpers with aluminium ones.
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/18/htc-one-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-camera

You can see that in low light HTC one wins and that's about it.

Swyped from another galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
I don't know if subconsciously I just prefer them because they're from the htc but I honestly believe the one's photos are all better except for the first one and the FFC one which I would say are the same. :s
[Galaxy S 4 General] skivnit:
They should remove the names and let people guess. PEOPLE will be surprised when they discover which is which. But clearly the Note 2 pics are better waiting for professional photographers to give their opinion

Swyped from another galaxy
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Why clearly? Because it's your opinion? Lol

Yea they should say at the bottom which was which.

Someone said somewhere else that all this photo comparison talk is bs anyway, and I agree.

Someone who knows how to adjust settings will be easily able to achieve the same colour on both phones, the difference will be detail, where gs4 will win, and low light performance, where htc one will win.
[Galaxy S 4 General] riz157:
Funniest post I've read today no actually the second funniest. I thought I was die hard fan defending s3 plastic finish over iphone premium build. Lol

S4 gift it's an ugly gift.

Samsung still got tinny sounding speakers, amoled, gimmicky software which never works as well as developer intended.

The only plus is ext memory and for me it's just ain't enough anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 General] lopri:
Enjoy your HTC One, man. I don't envy you. Though I wish you posted more in HTC forums instead of wasting your time on ugly phone. :)

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And frankly, I don't know why there are so many the S4 v. the One discussions.. I mean, if aesthetics is important, Optimus G and Xeperia Z certainly are as competent, if not more so than, as the One. (again, the ugly convex back to disguise the thickness.. yuk)

If my first criteria for smart phone is aesthetics, the number one goes to iPhone 4S. On Android side, Optimus G or Xeperia Z. HTC One isn't even pretty. Heck, had Samsung made the S4 like the One, they'd have been accused of copying iPhones. HTC gets away because no one cares.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
bold = your opinion

important to remember that

PS. i dont agree with riz157 either, both of you are letting your bias run away with you
[Galaxy S 4 General] azrieqb:
End of the day, most of us put on cover over the phone. Plastic vs aluminum? Not a big issue for me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] 0perat0r:
One thing I hate about iphones other than ios is the design. Its same old same. Couple small changes aaand thats the new iPhone. I guess Samsung is getting there with the galaxy series and I dont like that. But I guess thats why its called Galaxy series.

HTC made difference with the design. It looks beautiful but the new blinkfeed is disgusting :)

Internal memories are enough for me so SD card slot is not a deal breaker for me since I'm a light user.

1080p display is awesome on the S4 I really like that but as I said I'm a light user ( not playing games on phone, just tv series ) not a deal breaker either.

I'd prefer HTC for its Upx camera and its design. But heavy users might prefer S4 with the big screen and better clockspeed.

Sent from NexusHD2 using black magic
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jfree3000:
Uh, still on contract so neither phone is in my immediate future. The one thing I wish Samsung would do is put the speaker on the front of the phone. Watching netflix is quite a pain with a rear speaker. That seems to be the only iphone quality that I am jealous of even though the One now has it.

Lack of expandable storage for the One is a killer. A lot of people say "why do you need all that blah blah blah" or "just use a cloud service". I already have a 32gb sd card in my GS3 (16gb version). I would rather not toss my card aside because my phone won't have it. I have a lot of stuff/junk on my sd card and using cloud based services with Sprint is a pain in the ass.

I was looking at a trade in value of my S3 to put toward the One just in case and off contract the 64 gig version of the One going to be close to $700 dollars (rumored) and that's just crazy. I'm sure the S4 is going to be up there in price as well but damn!

Just my .02. Both phones are nice and I would take either one if given to me. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Maedhros:
lol... hate to call you out on this. But what a stupid comparison. Bumpers are plastic due to government regulation (essentially).

What makes BMWs premium (other then the price tag ;) ) Is the interior creature comforts. So the areas where the user interacts are premium, just like the User interacts with the phones body.

So your BMW comparison is actually helping HTCs cause, not Samsungs...

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Ah, alright I agree with you there.

I won't lie, using the S Pen was fantastic. Samsungs implementation was superior to HTCs scribe. Airview and multiview was also very useful. I actually just stole the N2 back from my old man (whos using it in my stead) just to enjoy those features again :)

Really wish HTC introduced a 5.5 incher with HTC Scribe now :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
Wrong... the person interacts with the phones screen ..not the outer body....

Phones body is just for looks and most people use cases.. and you dont show off a phones looks like a car.. you show it off for the things it can do...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] ZenInsight:
I've thought about this. I have survived on 8Gb internal and 32Gb external on my Galaxy S 1. I think a 64Gb internal drive would be fine for me at this point. 32 wouldn't be enough though.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
well said

though don't forget there aren't only HTC fanboys in here - same applies to all
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Absolutely. Compared to 2012, the HTC vs. Samsung debate this year is actually a decent match-up. That's something HTC deserves a lot of credit for. But the real test for the One and SGS4 will be once their both in people's hands globally for a couple of months in order to see how they really perform. Bad things happen to good phones when used by people in different ways no matter who makes them. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] rushless:
I will support the company that gives me the options I want for a "phone" and two of those are sd slot and non fixed battery. If the HTC one had at least an sd slot, but it goes the Apple/Nexus route of neither.

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A concern is that the hi res on small displays are perhaps overkill, resulting in more batter drain and heat issues. Seems more a spec quest rather than function. As far as plastic, the GS3 design tends to absorb a drop better than the Apple and HTC designs. Glass HATES a rigid frame, since the glass is where the energy is the most easily dissipated. Plastic reduces the chance for display cracks when dropped.

Besides that, having an sd slot to not be depending on cloud data as well using up data caps and battery life for content that could be stored local. Ditto on having the battery options.
[Galaxy S 4 General] reza1995:
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[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
i dont agree at all that 1080p on a phone is overkill

like we mentioned yesterday it allows you to output your phones screen in its native resolution to a monitor without upscaling and with phones getting more and more powerful they are or soon will be very feasible desktop replacements (watch this space for ubuntu mobile)

heat and battery are the 2 main issues i think will need to be tackled
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shan89:
We still don't have any info regarding the battery on S4 , while HTC One reviews reported battery between 6-8 hrs heavy lte usage etc. and i'm expecting on s4 around 8-10 if everything goes well.

Regarding Performance you guys are quiet wrong @ this one, many of you don't realise CPU Clocks are not so important while gaming as how much GPU clocks and driver optimisation is, for example we on One X forums can play any game lag free with cpu locked on 1200-1300 freq max. And s4 uses 1.9 and yes it'll be MAYBE faster by tiny bit if you can even notice that , but you can't even compare that properly unless you're on lets say AOSP rom or some launcher, sense and touch wiz are much different so you can't really compare.

Ragarding browser performance i ensure you that you guys are wrong here as well, if you talk about ICS days then not you're right, but after jelly bean for example One X has surpased S3 in browsing performance by far margins. take a look HERE on a side note those benches are more less on stock with 3.14 base, on 3.18 base we score much higher especially with custom roms, quadrant goes up to between 7500 -8000 , antutu goes between 15000-16500.

Heres gaming videos regarding HTC One so you can expect the same from S4 and pay atention on the videos, this is MAX DETAILS what are used on HTC One ( the ipod4 version , btw even ipod4 on max with MC4 has stuttering ) so NONE of us should worry will HTC One or s4 run games well, imho when i get my device i'll even Underclock it to 1500 or less and OC GPU to 500-550.

GAMING HTC One ( expect the same from s4 s600 version )​

MC4 -Full effects

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Real racing 3 - Full effects

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Nova 3 - Full effects

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-e1kKPxSCcw

Camera HTC One vs Xperia Z vs LG Optimus​

Considering S4 is using sony's camera sensor you can expect similar results as from Xperia Z , and after watching this video you'll see HUGE difference vs Xperia Z and HTC One when using HDR. 2:50 on video starts HDR recording.

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@ Those who believe HTC One will be easily scratchable​

Take a look at this video under, you can expect even better results from SILVER HTC One since it doesn't use any paint.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] Shan89:
@ BarryH_GEG

I agree pretty much with everything you wrote now for the 1st time lol.

And yeah i don't get HTC's stupidity about 3dot button, anyway not an issue since after 2nd update users got an option to use back menu button *hold for menu* so 3dot button is gone.

As for SD card not that i care , 32/64 is enough for me tho i would like having an SD card slot and yet they decided to give it to china market while us who aren't in china aint getting it.

Marketing sux for HTC as well , but hey they don't have the luxury to throw 400 mil $ for marketing, the whole htc doesn't even worth that much. Anyway they've said they're gonna advertise more this time.

Source
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
pretty much agree with everything here - except the screen.

for me 4.7" is pushing the size of a phone to an area im just about comfortable with. 5" would be really pushing that, but anything more than 5 is just too big - again, in my opinion - I'm glad they stuck with 4.7"

I do agree the button layout is stupid, i wish they had just put them on screen, that way when android stock layout is revised again the hardware buttons won't be "out of date" - hopefully we will be able to fix that as it appears the HTC logo is touch sensitive so we should be able to make that a menu key.

and regarding the SD card, you're right - i would happily pay the extra $20 just to have the option, but it's lucky that 32GB is plenty for me.

can honestly say having a removable battery has never influenced my decision on getting a phone, but from the poll we can see it clearly is important for a lot of people (on here anyway).

maybe they'll listen next time!
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's the 20 page thread discussing the One's FPS issue. People looking at the One can draw their own conclusions.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2161330

It is what it is. The One doesn't do very well at HTML5 or Java Script; it actually performs worse than One X+. No HTC device has ever performed as well as the equivalent Samsung device (S3 One X vs. S3 SGS3 for example) because Samsung does a great job at tuning their s/w for each devices individual h/w.

Although the metal feels enjoyably solid, I worry that it'll be susceptible to scratches, particularly the black version. The black is only paint over the top of silver metal, so if it gets scratched, the silver will show through. Many owners of the black iPhone 5 have reported exactly that, so if you want your phone to look pristine forever, you might stand a better chance with the silver one. I'd recommend using a case, too.

You might be able to keep it free of deep scratches, but you'll definitely struggle to avoid scuffs and dirty marks. When I pulled my black model out of my pocket, I was horrified at the amount of marks on it from my gold house keys. It was so easy to mark with metal objects that it basically became a pocket blackboard. The marks do come off with a bit of a spit and polish, but you really shouldn't have to do that.
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http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/htc-one-review-50010439/
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
mehhh depends how nit-picky people are with this.

FPS no doubt theres a frame rate issue now. but we have seen in devices with identical setups that 40-41 FPS is easily achievable, the difference is drivers / android version.

when we get 4.2.2, the frame rate will be almost certainly be fixed too - but yea it would have been nice to have it from the word go.

browser again we're not comparing like for like here - samsung has a faster browser yea, but i would say htc has a more functional browser (reflow) - if HTC is still considerably worse if the tests were ran on both phones using the same browser then fair enough.

scratches as was mentioned the idiot in the review kept the phone in his pocket with his keys, i mean come on.

besides those scratches simply rub off as seen in the video shan posted. what you see in that picture is the marks from where he rubbed the phone with his spit - ew.

im worrying that im sounding very pro-htc here - i have ordered the One, but i feel the need to "defend it" from at times overly unfair criticism

i would do (and have done) the same in HTC forums where people were talking complete crap about the GS4
[Galaxy S 4 General] Basil3:
I was under the impression that Google wanted the menu button removed from devices....i.e apps were meant to have a menu built in to them.

I still believe way too much emphasis is being placed on removable battery and storage. It's always going to rate as important in a poll of phone enthusiasts, but does it really matter to the average person? Would it be a selling point used by the sales person in the phone shop? I highly doubt it.

Off the top of my head, I know 4 people with the S3. All of them got it because it was the latest thing when they got their last upgrade. None of them have a spare battery, or have even bothered to put a micro SD card in. I'm not saying it's not good to have an option, but it's not a deal breaker to the vast majority of people.

In the long run, what do you think is going to be more likely....that all phones start to offer removable battery and storage (including the iphone), or that no phones do? I predict the latter.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
But all good things to know, one way or another, in a comparison. ;) As for aluminum. It's not new. People diss plastic because of its "cheap" appearance but aluminum has downsides too. Dents, scratches, and being not wireless friendly are three. Sony and LG wanting to be different could have used aluminum too. They went with glass because it doesn't suffer from those three issues. Those three things are pretty much fact just as plastic being challenging to apply a "premium" look to is. And, if what the CNet reviewer says ends up being true, and everyone has to put their One in a case to protect it, that kind of shoots the "all-aluminum premium feel" argument. I wouldn't not buy an aluminum device but I certainly wouldn't specifically seek one out either. I also wouldn’t buy any product based on looks alone. I’m a “sum of the parts” kind of shopper. I bought the Teg3 One X over the SGS3 partly because I liked its looks better but the display (pro bright LCD, anti PenTile) was a bigger factor.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Nice. And i remember last year when you were so HTC and we had our debates between the S3 and One X. Samsung just offers more and when its all said and done, it is so much fun to use a touchwiz powered phone. Multi-window to me is absolutely amazing. And it is coming to the 5 inch S IV too on top of all the new additional features. Software wise, samsung takes the cake.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
yep - youre right.

it's just important that people know both sides of the argument though, because ultimately i expect this thread will be the main point of reference for xda people who are struggling to decide between the two phones - as I was.

it's no good that someone comes along and sees

"aluminium is easily dented, scratched and causes connectivity issues"

regarding the connectivity, what they need to see is:

"aluminium can cause connectivity problems, but htc have tackled this by using a polycarbonate outer ring on the phone which contains the antennae"

same goes for any other controversial feature on either phone