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[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Hahaha! I think it's the latter. :p Now more samsung users are gonna flood HTC One and Xperia Z forums!

In my honest opinion the only thing thats best on S4 is the GPU and .... and ..... guys! Help me add another best thing on the S4.
[One (M7) General] JesseMT4G:
Personally me, I think the s3 had a lot to offer over an s2 and love the phone, have had no issues whatsoever.

I just miss HTC build quality and the One has the better build, by far.

Not sure on sense 5, but nothing a different launcher can't fix.

I was really hoping those leaks were fakes and or the software in an s3 type body to fool/Surprise the heck out of everyone, but nope, looks like the s3 with some gimmicky crap I would hardly ever use.

The one is my next phone, granted I do like the Note 2 due to spen function and multiwindow. Oh and screen real estate.

Gonna test each phone out quite a bit whenever the One comes to T-Mobile.

Definitely not impressed with the s4, which is saying Something as I enjoy my s3.

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[One (M7) General] prfrma:
The only thing that would have swayed me is if they said they managed to double the battery life or some crazy under the hood thing. Instead the spent more time talking about all the gimmiky crap that would likely do the opposite. GG
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
It comes down to what motivates people to pick one smartphone over another. Hardware wise, accept for the One's smaller display and battery, their similar. The 4MP camera on the One will most likely do better in low light while the 13MP in the SGS4 will do better with detail. I'd be surprised when the standardized tests from GSMArena or Anandtech come out if they don't both end up in a tie. The dual-speakers are really the only unique feature the One has over the SGS4. The "stuff" Samsung's added to the SGS4 camera is equal to or better than Zoe. Speaking of "stuff," the s/w features Samsung's added to the SGS4 are impressive; even if they are gimmicks. HTC's only stand-out addition to Sense is BlinkFeed. So in the end, a purchaser with no bias to Samsung or HTC will buy the One because they doesn't care about "stuff" or display size and are more interested in design or dual speakers. People interested in the SGS4 like "stuff" and the fact it's thinner and lighter than the One but has a 5" display, expandable storage, and a removable (larger) battery. Samung's design and use of plastic didn't hinder the SGS3's sales and there's no reason to expect it will harm the SGS4's either.
[One (M7) General] android_geek_here:
Thinking... Thinking... Thinking...

HTC or Samsung :(

Sent from my HTC One X
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
Samsung made my decision easy, definitely going with the One now. The uninspired UI and hardware turn me off so much, I can't stand everything about the S4's appearance.

I hope this one doesn't sell well and Samsung gets a reality check. People shouldn't take this minimal effort at full price.
[One (M7) General] jonmorris:
The most significant thing for me was Samsung trying to hide Android more this time, with a load of new S apps that often mimic existing Google ones.

Samsung is trying to hook users into its own ecosystem from now on. It sees Google as a possible threat and needs a plan B. This is in the form of Tizen.

If you buy the GS4 you will use the Samsung apps, which will also be available on their new Tizen devices to appear in the autumn/fall.

Of course they don't have to ditch Android (like Nokia gave up everything for WP) but this is what they're planning.

Personally I want less customisation and the promise of more timely updates to bring new Android services.
[One (M7) General] dahmmy:
yes

was 50/50

now 100 for htc
[One (M7) General] geoff5093:
This.

When I saw some of the features such as navigation, translate, voice, etc. all I can think about is that Google already offers this (Google Maps, Translate, Google Now). Then with talk about using their cloud services for everything you can really tell they are trying to remove as much Google from their phones as possible.

A few features though sounded pretty neat, such as the photo modes that let you remove unwanted people, drama shot, and a few others. But for features like the photos with sound, I'm sure you need to Samsung gallery to view them, it's not a simply JPEG file anymore.
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Someone please tell me why anyone would pick up the SGS4 over the One :?
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Tizen is indeed a big threat to android. Tizen is the evolution of the first ever full linux driver mobile OS called "Maemo" by nokia. This is when google decided to get android and infiltrated mobile business. Then maemo evolved into meego which is the one on the Nokia n9 but nokia decided to switch to windows and disintegrated meego. And here comes now all the brains of meego that delivered tizen. If we are talking originality Tizen's grandfather was the first ever open source mobile operating system or should I say it is the grand daddy of em all! :D
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Minimal effort? Aside from the typical generational h/w upgrades what's different between the One X and One aside from aluminum vs. polycarbonate, two speakers vs. one, a different camera approach, an IR port (which the SGS4 has) Zoe, and Blinkfeed? You have to be a real Samsung-hater (and that's OK) to say the advances from the SGS3>SGS4 are minimal.
[One (M7) General] slannmage:
It's all unclear, does the Exynos version come with LTE as well or is that for the Snapdragon? What GPU does it even have? What Camera does it have? They haven't answered any questions, they just gave us a **** play.

After watching that I'm not going to get one, I'm not going to get the One either, all seem to just lack something worth upgrading to. I'm just gonna wait for something better at the end of the year.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's what Anandtech and GSMArena have said in their mini-reviews...

GSMArena - http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4-review-907.php

Anandtech - http://www.anandtech.com/show/6832/samsungs-galaxy-s-4-introduction-hands-on
[One (M7) General] The Peanut Master:
I have an SII and my upgrade is coming up soon, and I personally have loved my phone and bear no ill-will to Samsung. But my next phone is the HTC One, hands down.

This could be "the grass is greener" affecting my decision, but from my perspective the One really is the best phone here. The One has much much better build quality, what still appears to be a better screen (judging by the fact that Samsung is still using pentile displays) with a higher PPI, also what seems to be a faster processor, dual front-facing speakers which are a great idea, and I think the Sense OS is better than Touchwiz now as well (they've slimmed down the Sense OS quite a bit while Touchwiz has been bloated up to an absurd degree).

Most if not all of the new S4 features are gimmicks that I simply will never use. The camera features are pretty pointless and the only semi-useful feature is the hovering gestures. Granted, they still have the microSD slot and the removable battery, but at this point I don't really need either of those.
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
lot of the features are software not in need of specific kind of hardware, every time new software features are shown off its not long before someone builds an app what replicates and puts it in play store, Samsung have already confirmed lot of the features will be available in an update in S3

expect most the camera features on a device near you sooon
[One (M7) General] slannmage:
Still not clear.
[One (M7) General] JaeKay:
Verizon.

I really want the HTC one, but because its unavailable on Verizon, I am forced to pick up an S4
[One (M7) General] fix-this!:
im buying the one and if and when the s4 ships ill reevaluate. if not ill wait for the s5. i was really disappointed in what i saw tonight, not to mention the lag on the reviews.
[One (M7) General] edgex:
As someone whos only android device is an SII, and I love it a lot. I love that it still has an epic community of devs and I can have Cyanogen 10.1 on my device that will definitely never have gotten 4.2+ otherwise is a big thing to me.

The S4 seems like the logical upgrade, but I'd like to hear some points why the One is actually better, other than build quality.

The gimmicky stuff on both platforms will go as soon as Cyanogen releases for the device, so that stuff doesnt really matter to me. How is HTC with development and Unlocking/Rooting?

Also the biggest reason why I'm not instantly going for the GS4 is the US varient is only another S4 Pro. I was so looking forward to that fancy 8 core.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
Exactly what i was saying all along just gimmicky software, amoled screen wrapped in plastic.

Why would anyone who owns S3 buy S4?

Samsung can only go down from here whereas HTC one can only go up

Samsung done a massive favour to HTC by launching this crap Xmas has come early for HTC me thinks.

Htc deserve the crown this year.
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
for now i keep the pre-order, touchwiz have more blotware than before
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Well, look at it this way. The guts of both devices in NA will be the same, and the software will be the same (assuming you put CM).

What distinguishes the two devices then is the superior build quality, speakers + amps on the HTC One.

If you can't live without AMOLED, then go for the SGS4. If you are like me and prefer LCD, then you can be confident knowing HTC always has the best screens.
[One (M7) General] :No-Frost::
I still like One more... =)
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
The Octa core is not an 8 core in the sense of 8 cores giving you better performance. It's big/little. Two quad cores. One for small tasks and one for power.
[One (M7) General] paorpas:
s4 screen sucks
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Larger 5" SAMOLED display with vibrant colors

Thinner and lighter with other dimensions being near equal

13MP camera (more detail)

Better battery life, bigger and removable battery

Replaceable back cover if its damaged

Expandable storage

Gorilla Glass 3 (versus 2)

Android 4.2.2 (vs. 4.1.2, at least for now)

Dual Camera (insert yourself in to photos you take)

Drama Shot (a simpler Zoe)

Sound and Shot to record voice comments on still photos

Story Album to create and send printed photo albums

Share Music to turn multiple SGS4's in to surround sound

Group Play to share content across multiple devices without the need for a Wi-FI connection

S-Translator integrated in to multiple apps like e-mail and the stock browser

Smart Pause/Smart Scroll to use your eyes to control the device

All the existing motion and voice controls Samsung provides in TW

Air View to expand content by hovering your finger over it

A display you can use with gloves on

S Voice Drive which maximizes the size of what's displayed and allows motion and voice to control things you use when driving

Optical Reader integrated in to stock apps to import data via the camera

S Health to track weight, blood pressure, exercise, etc.

I'll take a stab at the One's advantages over the SGS4 and you can finish it. For the sake of discussion assume the SGS4 being compared against is an LTE version running S-600 too.

Beautiful all-aluminum unibody design

LCD display with bright realistic colors

Sense’s more aesthetically pleasing appearance

UltraPixels (better low light performance)

Dual front facing speakers

Zoe

BlinkFeed

It’s not made by Samsung (for the haters ;) )
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
Depends on how soon the One comes out. I'll tell you if somehow the S4 comes out first... Sorry HTC, I'll miss you.

Regardless the S4 sales are going to destroy htc this year. This may be the final flagship we see from htc and I want it.
[One (M7) General] Ddot196:
My thread gets locked but this doesn't?...ok. Well anyways as I was saying before I had been waiting for the announcement and praying for a design change. But nope Samsung decided to keep it the same. And because of this I will 100% be getting the one. Plus, front facing stereo speakers!
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
*First point screen. That is yet to be seen and is definitely preference. I personally do not care for amoled.

* some have said (gizmodo) that the lightness adds to the overall cheap feeling of the device.

* removable battery is a minus in my opinion. The back cover on the s3 was garbage. With the s4 processor I can charge my dna in just over an hour.

* gorilla Glass 3 and 4.2 I concede.

* as all things camera I need to see that in action.

* expandable storage I think htc has addressed.

* everything else are in my opinion are software gimmicks most people won't use.

I mean are you really saying svoice is better than Google voice based on tonight's launch?

I do like that they are using Swiftkey.

I think a lot of people like removable battery and storage and that's what will keep people coming back. Sorry Barry but this was underwhelming.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Keep in mind most of the comments about both the One and SGS4 are based on pre-production units. In the SGS4's case who knows what stage of development the devices that specs have leaked from China are in and every one of them has been a dual-sim version specifically for China Mobile. When Anandtech and GSMArena run their standardized tests on both phones we'll know their h/w strengths and weaknesses.

GSMArena on the SGS4's display...

"The somewhat underwhelming first experience [its plastic construction] however all but changed when we switched on that oh-so-gorgeous 5" FullHD AMOLED display. The thing is absolutely stunning - every AMOLED fan will love it and even those who aren't too fond of the oversaturated colors will have to admit that it's a brilliant piece of engineering. And don't worry - as usual, Samsung has included a setting to tune the saturation down for a more natural look."​

This is what they said about the One...

"The HTC One packs a 4.7" Super LCD 3. The resolution is 1920 x 1080 resulting in an impressive 469 pixels per inch. When you add up the full RGB matrix of the LCD screen and the typical for the company's recent flagships good contrast and vibrant colors you really get an amazing screen.The display is also pretty bright, which makes it even punchier. It's not the least reflective screen around and it does tend to attract lots of fingerprints, but we think the image quality more than makes up for that. On top of the screen HTC has implemented the so-called Infinity Glass, which is resistant to scratches and eliminates glare for a better outdoor experience."​

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This one will too; the mods aren't 24/7. Enjoy it while you can. ;)
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Have to agree I'm surprised this thread is still open.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
If you want to quote something against One, quote from Anandtech, its the only one I believe in
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Excellent points as always Barry ;)

Why would they close this? We are discussing the SGS4 for the purpose of comparing it to the HTC One. I would say this thread is fair game. Every other phone section has at least 1 "versus" thread.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
There's nothing to concede really. Some folks like AMOLED, others LCD. Neither is right or wrong; it's about personal preference. Some folks will be dazzled by all the "stuff" Samsung provides and some will like the simplicity of Sense. Some live or die by a removable battery and expandable storage and some could care less. The One's aluminum design and dual speakers will convert a lot of people while others won't settle for anything less than a 5" display even if its surrounded by plastic (again).

It's kind of like two sports teams playing against each other. Both Samsung and HTC picked their best starting line up. Their will be a winner and a loser. We as fans just get to watch. At least this year's game is a lot more evenly matched and interesting than last year's. ;)
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Another interesting point was the quadrant score was in the low 8000's which is on par with the dna not the one.

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Well i agree with that. I'm for innovation. Not brand loyalty. At times I've wanted to switch but I really think htc has a winner here.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
Basically S4 is the bigger brother of S3 but the smaller brother of Note 2.

It's full of battery consuming gimmicky software tweaks wrapped in cheap looking plastic! Tweaks which probably available to the S3 very shortly.

Not really innovative at all. Not really different, Samsung are making the same mistake apple are.

Good news for HTC though.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
What could you possibly perceive as negative in what GSMArena said about the One's display when this is the conclusion?

"...and the typical for the company's recent flagships good contrast and vibrant colors you really get

an amazing screen.

"​

I think a handful of you are way too paranoid about the slightest hint of imperfection in anything related to the One; especially compared to any other device. I hope the launch goes well because if not I'm afraid some of you might kill yourselves.
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
Are you kidding dude? I don't even have to explain who put more effort into their design. All Samsung did was make the S3 bigger.

I'm not a Samsung hater, I want them to wow us or make something inspiring, just like everyone else. They seem to be taking advantage of the fact that people will buy it anyways, spending as minimal money on it to make the most profit.
[One (M7) General] Livebyte:
I currently own the first generation Samsung GALAXY Note and I can tell you... SAMSUNG SUCKS IN UPDATES.

They may be fast but at what cost.

It's completely buggy.

Did you know that their Project Butter is skewed and horrible in their Jelly Bean update for Note?

Best part, how can it damn f**ing lag when a Galaxy Nexus runs way way smoother?!

The UI is completely hideous and such an eyesore to my eyes.

And best part is I was a complete Samsung fanboy.

I was a sucker for AMOLED screens until it deteriorated so badly

Oh god, that awful whites became disgusting yellow garbage.

The screen burned so badly I tell you.

AMOLED is not what you hyped it to be.

Btw, if you think S3's screen is dim, wait till you look at S4.

Get the One, build quality matters. And their software's pretty too.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
I think the guy asked for reasons to buy S4 not why not to. You've probably completely put him off.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Wait all there, if Samsung would've done something different than SGS3S, I would've moved to it, but they had S3 as the base when made the S4, its like that. Only a few upgrades here and there from the S3
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Updates are at the whim of the carrier. Not the manufacture. Us carriers suck. That's why we have **** updates and locked bootloaders.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Sigh. From people that review hundreds of devices a year.

"The Samsung Galaxy S 4 may look pretty similar to its predecessor on the outside, but the truth is it's a huge upgrade. You get a larger screen of more than twice the resolution, a chipset that offers twice the processing power, a larger batter and better camera in a shell that's actually more compact than the Galaxy S III. And that's not even all - Samsung also invested quite a lot of effort in the software and made sure the Galaxy S 4 ships with the latest available Android release garnished with a boatload of exclusive software features. Sure some of them are mere gimmicks, but many are genuinely cool and/or useful and we can bet a huge portion of them will catch up."​

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_4-review-907p3.php
[One (M7) General] matt30:
I wish either one of these phones had wireless charging.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
You're right about that and kies ah what a pain.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
I believe the s4 does
[One (M7) General] mozezman:
Can't wait for the One. After watching the S4 event today I just hope there will be enough HTC Ones to go around.

Sent from my MB860
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Did you watch the live cast? I thought it was really odd how little they spoke about the h/w. They wouldn't even tell the media at the event whether the sample devices they were using were S-600 or Octa. I got the sense (no pun intended) that the event may have been pushed up intentionally because of the One's launch date. So I'm not sure we know everything there is to know yet. Let's face it, the One is without doubt going to be the SGS4's most likely Android competitor so its kind of flattering to HTC if Samsung did move up the launch.
[One (M7) General] fix-this!:
I just hope the one gets 4.2.2 soon.
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
What part of my argument am I talking about component upgrades? Talking about the chassis/design. Samsung has been cheaping here to where it's unexcusable
[One (M7) General] ajftl:
One one one one. New s4 still plastic. Little less plastic but still plastic. Totally getting the one.
[One (M7) General] mintu123:
after two month with the htc one these people gone be *****ing about paint wearing off on them speakers.then that fancy one will look like **** while s4 will still look new.i have used many htc metal phones.dings dents and paint flaking off.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
That's the best you can come up with really. Scare tactics.:silly:

S4 is one big disappointment and Samsung know it especially since the launch of HTC One.
[One (M7) General] matt30:
What other HTC phone is metal?
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Both my wife and I have had the HTC evo 4g lte since release and neither of them have had any "paint" (its actually anodized aluminum) chip or flake. I even know someone who was really fustrated one day and threw (not drop) his evo (no case) on a concrete floor and it just had some scratches. From the initial impact. Phone was still fully functional and not even a scratch on the screen. Furthermore, over time his phone did not flake at all.

Edit

The silver version is not painted nor anodized that is the natural color of aluminium. Its probably polished and it might have some kind of chemical coating.
[One (M7) General] fix-this!:
Funny I thought this was the htc one section.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
I believe that was the s4 pro based on quadrant scores. Thing is I didn't think that was to stable clocked at 1.9 so I'm perplexed

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At least try to sound intelligent.
[One (M7) General] mozezman:
and 50% say...THE ONE

Sent from my MB860
[One (M7) General] :
That's true. Samsung had girls dressed in pretty dresses offering coffee during the HTC event. They got so scared that they are now on twitter trolling.

https://twitter.com/htc/status/312348122753953792

Some people just don't know how to sell their own product and start trolling on another. Phill Schiller is also now scared.

Atleast Samsung doesn't launch their flagship with outdated version of Android.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
I heard HTC was present at S4's launch today, showing of the One to the audience :p lol