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[Galaxy S 4 General] samir_a:
The street price is around 38k give a few bucks here and there if you want to in with a free emi then may be a 1000 higher as the place where you will get it the cheapest will not accept cc. You can also buy online Shopclues and Tradus have some deals and even flipkart had a deal where you got 5% discount

But I am wary of online buy as if any damage they ask you to go to the service center and not replace it themselves so it adds to an headached though this is my personal experience

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Milan Subway is supposed to be or was their main service center in Mumbai guess that has changed reading your comment, well one thing Samsung really sucks and apple excels ( I am an apple hate fan) is the service and support, The issues you are facing seem to be with a wrong firmware

I am on the latest firmware have no issues with the camera though one time it has rebooted. everything else works fine I had an issue with signal dropping but seems to have gone away.automatically the battery life sucks though it easily go through one day.

Has anyone tried the new feature with youtube where in if your tv supports dlna you can stream the video on your mobile to your tv by just pressing an icon

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Milan Subway is supposed to be or was their main service center in Mumbai guess that has changed reading your comment, well one thing Samsung really sucks and apple excels ( I am an apple hate fan) is the service and support, The issues you are facing seem to be with a wrong firmware

I am on the latest firmware have no issues with the camera though one time it has rebooted. everything else works fine I had an issue with signal dropping but seems to have gone away.automatically the battery life sucks though it easily go through one day.

Has anyone tried the new feature with youtube where in if your tv supports dlna you can stream the video on your mobile to your tv by just pressing an icon
[Galaxy S 4 General] zyryn:
its XXUAMDK ...I just upgraded once when i got the phone, it asked me to update...some 50mb + download...

and zero hang/reboot issues....infact my phone is like perfect except for the heating while charging,....and few touchwiz lags like dialer/contacts and camera app starting time..takes 3 seconds sometimes !

fu*ked up phones dont sell in millions bro...

tough time selling it or tough time living with that disgrace of a flagship screen ? :p

anyway, new piece would be 37-39k...and i guess 2nd hand would bbe 34-37k.... just rough estimates...
[Galaxy S 4 General] samir_a:
The only reason 9505 is getting so much developement is bec of the number of handsets sold since it is the model available on US and other carrier bound markets and hence the developement will be more the same would have happened for the exynos based version.

Also I think Samsung has reached a roadblock with exynos processors for some reason as note3 is rumoured to have snapdragon and not exynos and even s4 mini is said to have snapdragon n not exynos that shows it is a complex processor to make and hence we are lucky to have it as when it comes to raw power it is a beast
[Galaxy S 4 General] rahul2880:
What is the difference between XXUAMDK and XXUAMDE firmware?
[Galaxy S 4 General] spacetribe99:
They did not let me take the job card! They said it was for internal use only

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I made a call to the agent who was looking into my phone and fired the @#$# out of him.

He called me back saying he was going to give me a "replacement letter" tomorrow.

Lets hope this goes smoothly. Too many issues with phone atm.

If this does not work out I will try the Andheri West SC.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
MDE is the old version and MDK is the latest one. ..

Check the last letter and since K comes after E, hence MDK is the new one...:thumbup::D
[Galaxy S 4 General] spacetribe99:
They asked me to wait in the waiting area for 20 mins while they "upgraded the software" .. After which I pointed out that everything was still the same and the only thing they did was format my phone! (showed them a screenshot of the ver # etc from before their so called "software upgrade) which he later goes onto call it a "binary upgrade"

So they took my phone except the addon cover, mem card and sim card.

I always use my phones in a cover and I am really careful with them. The scratch was not there before the SC took it in for the so called "upgrade".

Infact the agent asked me to sign the job card before "upgrading the software" and he mentioned "Scratches on phone" and I asked him to cancel that else I would not sign.

They were arguing with me that they "have to" mention "scratches found on phone" for all jobs as its mandatory!? WTF is that all about?!?

If my case does not get resolved tomorrow at the same SC (i.e. replacement) I will escalate this issue and try the Borivali and Andheri West SC.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] adyscorpius:
Does anyone want to buy my S4?? One month used and no scratches since I installed Gadgetshields full body cover on day one... please PM me if anyone is interested. Based in Delhi...
[Galaxy S 4 General] rahul2880:
I mean is MDE the out of the box version and what changes are done from MDE to MDK and anybody here who has purchase the phone after 1 or 2 days of launch and the build number is not MDK. I am gathering this information to prove samsung that my phone was running perfectly fine pre upgrade and because of the upgrade my phone is screwed and i want a replacement. since samsung mentioned that downgrading wont solve the problem of camera hang and reboot.
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
Yes. MDE was the version the phone shipped with. The only visible changes I remember was the addition of two wallpapers. It does have a newer kernel though (Update 1 source).
[Galaxy S 4 General] rahul2880:
Can kernel be downgraded? I mean what will happen if I install firmware MDE and the kernel be of MDK?
[Galaxy S 4 General] samir_a:
You can try if you can find the firmware on Samfirmware using Odin but it is not an issue with the firmware I am also on MDK but have no such issues that you are facing may be the hardware is faulty
[Galaxy S 4 General] zyryn:
dude, from the way you describing it, it seems like u talk to them to kindly, they taking you for a ride !! No damn service center can do such $hit ! anyway all the best for the replacement letter ! let us know how it goes !
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Check this site www.sahivalue.com/buy

Sent from my Galaxy S4 .
[Galaxy S 4 General] spacetribe99:
I've been told that I am too kind in all the wrong situations.. I hope the replacement goes through today it self..

Will keep you'll posted.

I just received a call from the SC - They said that its more than 7 days post the purchase and they cannot replace my phone. WTF!?
[Galaxy S 4 General] rahul2880:
Escalate the issue to ceo helpdesk on samsung support page don't be kind
[Galaxy S 4 General] spacetribe99:
Thanks.

Just did that. Lets see what their response is going to be.
[Galaxy S 4 General] samir_a:
Yes the DOA is seven days from date of purchase which means a day after that you phone is not replaced.

Talking to the service center wont help you need to escalate this as I do not believe the service center has the power to replace it now

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The CEO's help desk is just some bunch of customer support executives who are there for PR purpose only i do not see any solution coming from them as the mail never goes to CEO

Also there is a technical helpdesk try them you will get a better response from them
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mandeep148:
its was tough time both while living and selling, :laugh:

man!! i bought new at 36.5 and after 15 days of uses,and when i went to all shops in market near our area, thay said last 24 :silly:

what the f*** i just sold my s3 2 days ago, it was 8 month uesd at 20k...

and xz 15 days used only 24k?? that was time of killing myself.. i gone mad :mad:

will never buy sony

man!!! trust me at that time i m feeling well after sell,u cant expect,

sony users are blind, they are realy barve that thye live with only looks matters, except all things...

i think buying a micromax or local mobiles are btter that xz...

anyways, willl buy s4 soon...

thanx
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
Bought my phone on 17th May. .

It came with MDK pre installed. .

No problems as of yet.

Its surely heating but nothing to complain..

Had 2 reboots while opening camera. One on same day of purchasing and one yesterday midnight but I think yesterday can be termed a bitbof my fault as I opened camera while music was playing..( needed flashlight to reach fridge as it was 3 am and really dark but ).

I have a problem with media server sucking most of my battery ( see screenshot below )

But phone is working amazing and without any trouble..:thumbup:

And ya, dont tell my mom I was up that late..:p;)

Only 2 hrs of screen time for the below attachments.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
You clearly have media server wake lock issue and it is keeping your phone awake. Just do a factory reset of the phone once. What you ate experiencing is clearly a software issue.

From my Galaxy S4, in your face.....
[Galaxy S 4 General] DeathMetal King:
Im just curious, why is all this happening in s4? Note 2 never faced such issues...samsung should be sued for selling faulty products!
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
These issues are nothing much to worry about. They are all software glitches and will be resolved in future updates..

Only few here are facing excessive overheating problem but that too is rare...:thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I bought my S4 just after 2 days of launch, never had problem till yesterday, but since yesterday even i'm having random reboot issues, had 2-3 reboots till now and today earlier it rebooted while i was doing nothing on it, it was lying on my desk and suddenly i saw it rebooted

Samsung should be sued for it, i think this is my last android or atleast last samsung device, never had issues with any of my iOS device
[Galaxy S 4 General] DeathMetal King:
oh...but the overheating also shouldnt happen right? will that be fixed with software update? coz i was quite keen on s4 till i saw the reviews about it...and isnt 8.8 gb too less?
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
How can these companies expect clients to wait for updates for fixes for a premium device, they should test them before releasing
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
Note 2 launched on basically same platform of Galaxy S3. Same hardware internally, just clocked higher. By that time the platform had matured and Note 2 basically flew out of box.

Galaxy S3 on the other hand had similar issues as it was again new platform and took few weeks for things to get normal.

Things like this should not happen, but capitalism is just that. Companies, all of them and not just Samsung are under tremendous pressure to get the product out into the market on time. Even if it means there are minor caveats along the way.

Things will get better.

If Note 3 is based on this same Exynos platform, I expect the same thing as last year.

Most of these issues can be fixed by installing custom ROM + kernel combo to be honest. But those who dont want to do that will have to wait a bit. Not ideal, but not end of the world.

Honestly this phone's issues are relatively minor and mostly down to software unlike few other flagship phones out there with hardware issues.
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
I know it shouldn't but what do you ecpect from a four cored phone more powerful than dual core pc atom processor and without active cooling system to cool it..

This problem is not common to exynos or samsung but to almost all major flagship chips present in the market at this time.

Its solution is to decrease the die size of processor futher below 28nm to decrease power consumption and also heat but we'll not see that happening until s5..

Other solution can be to underclock the processor but knowing that a phone is known by its benchmarks especially in todays world, no company will be doing that. .:p

For those ready to root or install custom firmware can also Flash a kernel with undervolting capabilities to have same performance with less heating problems. .

Regarding the low space problem, I am surely dissappointed buying 16 gig version and only geting half of that but on the plus side It has a micro sd slot.

I am currently using 8 gb card from my old phone and soon buy a 64 gb card...:D:D

Do check my free space from the thumbnail below

Often little bugs get unnoticed is lab conditions as the camera might be opening perfectly on there test piece but few are definately having issues with that.

No software company is immune to this issue not even apple or microsoft.
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
Also as I said a few posts before, there is a 800 mb folder named thumbnails that you can see after enabling to view hidden files in my files app..

Well is it safe to remove if anyone knows...?
[Galaxy S 4 General] aditya1987:
Even if u will delete it it will ve created again and it will take some time

When u will open gallery for the first tym after that..and the thumbnails folder will be created again

Sent from my GT-I9500 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I know all softwares can have bugs, but most companies release their softwares after enough testing, but with S4 it looks like they just released it in hurry, just too manu issues, i never had any such issues with any of my iOS device, the OS has always been stable, never had random reboots/crashes. If bugs are found at least i can expect from a company like Samsung to provide immediate fix via update, but they are taking just too long, looks like as if they released S4 for beta testing and we the users are beta testers and paying to even beta test their crap

Even with a low end hardware iOS never lags and works much faster then these samsung/android devices
[Galaxy S 4 General] xman_here:
Google Edition HTC One has been announced. How do you see it affecting S4 sales?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hotzigetty:
Considering that both those versions are available only in the us as of now and only via the play store, no effect.

Sent from Neptune
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
Disable a15 cores for experimental purpose, I felt nothing laggy whatsoever. And the cpu temperature never went by my 50c even when stressed. Wondering why we need a15 cores, may be only for benchmarks? Will try to stress the a7 cores today to check for lags, let's see what I get :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] samir_a:
HTC has production issues and a very bad marketing it is a great phone yet it will never be able to catch up with S4

The first iphones were full of bugs I remember my cousin who had the iphone 1 sold it for the same reason, windows still has many bugs so nothing is perfect, Thats the way it is when nexus 4 was launched i heard lot of people complaining about it overheating and xperia z going dead at times and HTC one to had it problems with the so called ultrapixel camera.

We are getting to a point where the hardware is getting more and more complex and closely integrated with the software which is not easy and hence the issues
[Galaxy S 4 General] rajarshi10:
I'm thinking of upgrading from the Galaxy S2. I find the Nexus 4 as good as the S4 & that too almost 15k less than the S4. So should I go for the N4 or the GS4?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
S4 has any phone out there on market totally outgunned at the moment. The one is the only phone that comes close.

But Nexus is Nexus which means you get nexus AOSP experience. If that somehow matters to you then you can get nexus. But as far as performance and hardware goes, S4 has N4 beat. N4 is nice and smooth to use. Clean Android UI. But S4 had better processor, better camera, better battery., expandable storage and better screen.

They are not in the same league.

But yes, Nexus is still very good vfm.

From my Galaxy S4, in your face.....
[Galaxy S 4 General] HS™:
I have used Nexus 4 and using S4 now and i personally like S4

Cons as per me on nexus 4 battery , display , music clarity , speed compare to S4

even S4 has some minor issues but i still suggest S4 its a beast
[Galaxy S 4 General] Oomahey:
Not the folder, but you can delete everything inside the folder. It'll fill up again anyway. *shrug*
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
Just keep it in mind you will get only 8 GB of usable memory in S4 as approx 8GB of the 16GB is already taken away by the Samsung bloatware

I would suggest to go for HTC One atleast you can install CM on it, for Indian S4 not sure when is CM going to be available for it
[Galaxy S 4 General] HS™:
Dude i m not asking here quote the one asking for it
[Galaxy S 4 General] hellblog:
the only thing that I'm going to crib about is the battery life :/ It hardly comes for 15hours with max usage :( and the screen is taking the max battery.. any suggestions??
[Galaxy S 4 General] DeathMetal King:
I understood the reason for htc google edition coz it is sense, but isnt s4 already "google edition"?

what is google edition even mean?
[Galaxy S 4 General] danveer:
S4 comes with touchwiz on top of it while htc one comes with Sense but with google edition you will get stock launcher as is present in basic android code hence there is no touchwiz or sense on top of these phones..

They are similar to nexus as they should get android updates on same day when a new version is announced.

Think of it as a s4 with aosp rom on top of but with warranty.

They are Nexus phones but without the Nexus name tag at the end
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mandeep148:
is Rs 35k for s4 10 days used, is good?

he told he can discount little more...

and new price is 37.5k in our city

what should i check before buying second hand s4?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Sm007hCriminal:
Check the following:

The most important thing, make sure the phone isn't a stolen one.

Warranty card

Check the body and screen of the S4 for any visible damages.

Check if the battery is original.

Check if the speakers, call function work.

Try to use the phone for 30mins or so to check if there are any other issues (other than the widely known issues already existing in all S4 like Camera crash, etc...these will be fixed by Samsung)
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Make sure its not rooted and has genuine bill wid warranty.

Sent from my Galaxy S4 .
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mandeep148:
thank you my dear friends :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] HS™:
i would say take a new one which is sealed even if its 37500

there are few faulty devices in S4 which gives a lots of trouble and in indian i9500 u cant see if the phone was already rooted or not after flashing a stock firmware coz it has hidden counder as per some senior in XDA

also i have heard some shops are selling it for even 37000/-

http://ludhiana.olx.in/samsung-s4-at-just-34000-fix-price-iid-514505938 this fellow is selling for 34 k see just searched

pay 2 k more and be sure as its not a small amount at all
[Galaxy S 4 General] Mandeep148:
yaa, u r right, i also think so,

used should be at 32-33k atleast...
[Galaxy S 4 General] HS™:
Yes correct thats the price... I also tried going to a shop and asking for a re-sell price they quoted me 31000/-
[Galaxy S 4 General] kika18:
Try applying a black wallpaper on your homescreen; should help a bit. Anyway, there is little u can do to stop a 1080p screen from draining battery as fast as it does....It all comes down to how long u keep the screen on....:)
[Galaxy S 4 General] zyryn:
Hey guys in mumbai ...have a brand new sealed box black s4 with warranty .....pm me if interested
[Galaxy S 4 General] sasha007:
Bought one for 36400 . Got a heck of a deal :D :D

Market price is still 39k .
[Galaxy S 4 General] japjit100:
If you are from Delhi then please tell which shop
[Galaxy S 4 General] sasha007:
No I'm from Mumbai . And got my S4 online ..

Enquired in all the local shops and no one quoted less than 39k .

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Guys read this :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2303942

Is it true ?

How to know whether that switching is happening between the set of 4 cores ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
Calm down. Currently switching is happening. Just that it is either 1compete set of 4 A7 cores at work or set of 4 A15 cores at work.

A15 are kicking in only when phone needs to do heavy tasks.

Individual core migration which we saw in lakes slides of arm last year odds not implemented where individual core could be activated at per the med(e.g. 3 A7 cores with one A15) ).

It is not the end of the world. Performance is not suffering at all. Neither is battery life worse than other model. In fact it is very good.

If my battery life below is what so called power eater gives, I am more than happy with it. This is bordering what I was getting from my Note 2.

Sure we could have had more efficient chip, but it is still best for our market. Only people who should care about 9505 are those from lte market or those who must have cm right now.

From my Galaxy S4, in your face.....
[Galaxy S 4 General] sachinaik:
Yes sammy screwed up.

My mobile has random reboot issues and forget about running at 1.6 ghz.... it drinks battery like water...

But i downclocked it to 1Ghz and below are advantages :

1. Phone stays very cool

2. Antutu at 22k !!! Better than my N2.

3. Superior wolfson codec compared to GT-I9505.

4. Full hd comapred to my N2.

5. Better battery life since 1Ghz.

6. It overall feels solid stable at 1Ghz.

Supercurio is coming up with his magic.

Andrie is gona provide all kernel features that he used to provide in N2...

I like the features in my s4 hence dont wanna goto CM...

So m still happy with my GT-I9500....
[Galaxy S 4 General] Paras Lehana:
I just ordered a White S4 from flipkart and want its protection to get dispatched to me first. :P

The reason I'm posting my query here is that it's an Indian thread and no one else can better understand the availability of online products here. Moreover, I'm living in Jammu!!!! Hope you guys can help me.

I just want a simple case and atm I'm considering a black barely there case in order to add contract to the device. Any reviews about the silver one? If you've other suggestions for me (doesn't matter if the case is bit complicated), I'd consider those. I just need some suggestions/recommendations or particularly a short list to choose from.

For the screen guards, would you suggest me some of the best available there? Brand? Anything!

Thanks Indian mates. Hope you'd help me. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Funkym0nkey:
Search for Mercury Case for S4 on ebay and HOKO screen protector (order pack of 3 or 5 and use sellotape method to apply). The screen protector is very precise cut. It is not exceptionally high quality or anything but it is good and fit is perfect and it is cheap and you can change after 4-5 months.

And trust me when I say this, Mercury jelly case is the best TPU case you can buy. Nothing out there looks as good and fresh. And I have literally tried 10 different types.

Unfortunately seller from whom I bought it for Rs.300 now has only Red colour left and other one is charging Rs.600 for it on ebay now for your choice of colour. If that is fine with you you can give it a shot.

I got blue one for my new white S4 and it looks amazing. I will post few pics later.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Paras Lehana:
I just looked at it. The cost is reasonable!! Well, it seems that you've literally looked at the variety of cases. Would you differentiate between the casemate barely there and the mercury ones? The mercury looks flexible but imo barely there looks more elegant.

And in your opinion, blue would suite the device more than the black ones? I mean in the case of mercury.

Thanks. :)