yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
That just means it was a lot of web browsing. When you read and the phone is sitting with screen on it can sleep if your setup is allowing deep sleep. Half was all mobile data and the other half all wifi. That was 7 hours 49mins i had phone on down to 5%. It was used straight through. Just occasionally a screen off here and there while i was busy with real life. I can't fake a battery stats. I don't know why it showed exactly as it did.

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Push notifications on from tapatalk, i only use stock messaging app not whatsapp. Email sync enabled. I use auto brightness and no screen filter. I used to love luxautobrightness while I was on GS3 but found no use for it now.

I had some downloads I did, lots of browsing, bluetooth transfer. You can see where signal is shown its green over half beginning then i get home to the mountains i live in and get no reception so i switched to wifi. The awake points are so small only a few show but if i had taken screen shot with screen rotated you would of seen hundreds of awake points with little non awake points all between.

This is on demand an Noop and Im getting same on on demand woth noop for internal memory and row for internal sd as perseus has it. The screen shot was from before I even had anything to adjust really. Last month or even before.

Doc's Rom now and Perseus kernel from the beginning.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2266080

[ROM][I9500-XXUAME1][22 May][V2.2] Doc's Barebone "Less is More"

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2272602

[KERNEL] [22/06] Perseus
[Galaxy S 4 General] Janjooa:
Check this out

engadget.com/2013/07/01/linux-kernel-3-10-arrives/

Maybe some good news for the i9500 owners
[Galaxy S 4 General] satzuke:
i think we need wait for official update about firmware

because the procsessor not work properly
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
lets see if [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] has anything to say about this :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] plasmastate:
Yes, I doubt that this kernal will be of any use for our i9500 but lets be optimistic. All eyes on you andrei
[Galaxy S 4 General] Tinderbox (UK):
One review said that the talk-time on the quad was 18 hrs and the 11 hrs for the octa, why such a large discrepancy.

John.
[Galaxy S 4 General] omias:
Pfff....good guide, solving all doubt

Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S 4 General] thekoRngear:
Why mate? :)

Before Andreilux steps in I wanna know ur opinion.
[Galaxy S 4 General] plasmastate:
Sure. The reason I am saying this is that Andrei mentioned in his first post that the issue lies in the hatdware implementation itself. So even if the kernel is there to support it, the silicon is still not fully capable to make use of the other two big.little implementations. This news diaappointed me alot but thats the reality.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jj9922:
yes i feel most likes it a hardware related problem like andrei did explain but we cant exclude that it may be a software issue . a new linux kernel i just being released supporting the big.little implementation. we may not get the best scenario but at least we may get the max of this cluster migration scenario . personally i think we arent even using the cluster migration like totally it feels much like we are running most of the times on A15 CPUs that are throttled rat hen using the A7 cpu . i did deduce the following by seeing that when we run on power saver mode which should logically to use the most of the a7 cpus the power consumption isnt really than different of high process tasks as much as the heat .

i may be totally wrong but it really feels this way
[Galaxy S 4 General] HassanM:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]

Very useful information..... Keep it up!!!

Just for information & knowledge, if I increase the IKS frequency in STweaks to 700 kHz , will it have an overall effect in performance and yet not compromising on the overall stability???

Thanks in advance...
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
I have my exynos variant s4 and i havent own an iphone eversince.

But i could say that ip5 also have better battery life and yes it can stay up to 5hours continous use.

My wife used iphone and I play on it once in a while.

Sent from my GT-I9500

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I got 6hrs and 32 mins screen time on my exynos, with 14hrs battery time and still has 8% remaining.

Stock rom, rooted and no battery saver apps installed.

Pretty good battery life for me.

Sent from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] suoko:
Have you tried mt6589 ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jsriz:
Now that the new 5420 is announced tot of bumping this thread..

hope the CCI bug is not there this time...

or even better wanna see if the big.LITTLE MP scheduling feature is implemented but dont think that will come around ne tym soon..
[Galaxy S 4 General] marc_ecko28:
You mean this?

This is being used to most of rabranded china phones now.
[Galaxy S 4 General] GustavoGC:
Excellent explanation. finally i can understand the operation of this processor :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/23/samsung-exynos-5-octa-5420-hands-on/
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
First of all hi there people,

I know that this is an old thread but I'm currently purchase a samsung i9500 so this is relevant. Would be possible to get HMP with a proper 3.8+ kernel?

From what I read it might be a hardware issue but there can be a software workaround:P maybe a proper kernel, of course it's not what an average dev would handle but some group of devs could try do this (still it might not work but worth the try I believe)

P.S. I've purchase the S4 in an auction, it would take me 15-40 days to get the phone ..until then I'm with a 2.5yr old Desire HD, the s4 it should bring an WOW factor to my eyes :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] dragon135:
No

Sent from GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
the phone would be pretty decent even without hmp, enjoy the device when you get ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
ahahah, nice and friendly reply :p

EDIT: It should work with HMP but this would create lag issues and won't worth nor the effort or the result, so better stay without it.

Sure, it would be a great upgrade from my single core Desire HD ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
I read somewhere, cant remember exactly and too lazy to search google, that Samsung says they can enable all 8 cores on the S4 and Note3 but the phones would overheat as the cooling solution was not designed to cool the phone will all 8 cores running at once.

Could just be a cop-out on Sammy's part since many already believe the true problem lies in the CCI.

In other news the S5 can run all 8 at once :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
I believe even if 8 cores are enabled it would create many shutters that would make the s4 useless because everytime that the phone switches from a7's to a15's there's a slight shutter

P.S. I might be wrong though.. (the -heat- should be a way of "covering" their mess)

EDIT: Although you'll see me around if my GF wants a custom rom, Short story I'm getting an OnePlus One phone.

Long story: I had an invite but expired due to 30hrs(that happen a week ago), after 24hrs the invite expires but I've check it after 30hrs. Then bought the S4 and today one dude offer me an invite and purchase it, so I'm giving the phone to my GF when I receive it and getting the OPO. So now I'm waiting for 2 phones :P

Going from a snapdragon scorpion 1GHz single core with adreno 205 and 768 ram to a snapdragon 801 quad core 2.5GHz with adreno 330 and with 3GB ram would be an WOW factor, also from 4.3" to 5.5"
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
Got the phone but tried to run antutu X and saw that it has snapdragon 600 running at 1.89GHz(4 core) with adreno 320 as gpu ?!?!

Tried to run cpu-z and says the same info, I'm a bit confused.. I mean is this a software problem or what?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
If you got an S4 then you have the i9505 version which has an S600 Qualcomm chipset and those stats are correct.

The i9500 is the octa-core version which has the 2 quad core cpu's.

BTW: I think you are mistaken about the micro stutters when running all 8 cores. I have a mate with an S5 Octa-core and in trying it out I found it never skipped a beat or lagged 1 bit. Albeit the S5 has the latest exynos chipset with an obviously working CCI.

I think Samsung is using the heat as excuse for not enabling all 8 cores on thei9500. the real reason is more than likely becoz of the CCI bug that is present in the Exynos 5410.

Meizu came out and said they were going to enable HMP on their Meizu MX3, which runs the exynos 5410 chipset too, but they have since gone silent on the issue. My guess is they couldn't get it right either :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
The thing is that is says GT-I9500 ..but the hardware says Snapdragon 600 running at 1.89 (which is like i9505 which runs at 1.9GHz) ..:confused:

I know about the difference of 9500 and 9505 but this one is "weird" ..maybe the software can't recognise the hardware? (although I doubt about that ..it's not that the phone is new like a week time so the software can't read the hardware right)

P.S. What results should I expect in antutu X for each phone? (my only worries is about a clone ..although I don't expect snapdragon 600 in a clone with adreno in it's side). Well don't compare S5 octa vs S4 totally different cpu also some say about micro shutter so I'm not making this right now ..I did my homework before :P - In a week my opo would be in my hands, I'll compare it to my previous phone DHD, compared to my brothers Mi3 and my GF's phone S4

About the Antutu X results, what do you get guys? (try the latest so we're on the same page), I'll do the same
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
You should check you build.prop and cmdline

If both saying you have a msm SoC then it's probably just a typo in the build.prop
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
No root access and won't have as my GF prefers it that way and from what I think it's that build.prop you're refering can't get accessed without root privileges right?

Any other way(without root access)? ..antutu x is one harmless solution(if someone has i9500 stock rom), the phone is currently running 4.3 android. I'd like to know what's the minimum result I can get in an i9505 and in a i9500 so if it's like 28.000 and 25.000 and I get 22.000 that would be fishy if you know what I mean.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
Build.prop should be readable even without root
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
Don't I have to use something like root explorer and open this? ..I'm a bit :confused: care to give me some info

P.S. Kies recognise this as GT-I9500 ..weird
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
Use terminal or adb
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
I seem get around 29000 on AntutuX latest version but I have seen as low as 28000 before. Using the latest Antutu v5 I scored 32459 when I benched it now.

I pray you dont have a clone but it is quite easy to see if it is a clone using Antutu. Just compare the device info screen between your phone and another i9500.

I've seen a clone bought from gumtree and the first thing that I noticed is the screen resolution is not correct, you can see the slight pixellation on the screen icons on the clone. My S4 display is crisp with no pixellation visible on the icons.

The S5 has the same processor as the S4, from what I see they both run 1x A7 quad core and 1x A15 quad core. The S5 is just clocked higher. The chipsets are different but the cpu architecture is the same. Microstutters on an i9500 are just a theory since no i9500 can run all 8 cores at once so no one can prove or disprove them. We can theorize whether they will exist if all 8 cores were axctive but we cant prove it either way unless someone figures out how to enable HMP :P - Just my 2cents on the matter, I couldn't care if HMP works or doesn't on my phone its awesome already.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
I don't have another i9500 :P(also compering to the "list" of antutu might be deceiving) If I remember well I tried the latest antutu x and got around 24.000 (It was a few days ago, I'll try it again)

So what do you recomment guys? (S5 doesn't have the same cpu, it might be based on S4 but in S4 you can't enable 8 cpu's to work to together:P - thing of it as a alpha cpu while S5 has a beta one).

About the terminal, if I install it in S4 for example what do I write(I remind that I've got no root access, so if needed I can't get access - it's not my phone but my GF's). If it was a clone, why KIES recognise it? ..hmmm

P.S. Screen looks fine, resolution is reported fine ..same as the camera's resolution(I checked the resolution of the images ..didn't rely on what the camera MP say)

-- The seller was having the following details in the auction:

* 5" 1080 x 1920 Super AMOLED with around 441 ppi, Gorilla Glass 3

* Gorilla Glass 3

* 16 GB built-in storage, microSD card slot

* 13 MP camera with autofocus, single LED flash, 1080p video recording

* 2 MP front-facing camera with 1080p video recording

* Quad-core Qualcomm APQ8064T Snapdragon 600 with four 1.9 GHz Krait 300 cores, 2 GB of RAM, Adreno 320 GPU

* LTE support

* Wi-Fi a/b/g/n/ac with DLNA and Wi-Fi Direct, Bluetooth 4.0

* GPS with A-GPS and GLONASS support

* 2600 mAh removable battery

---- The thing is that i9500 shouldn't have snapdragon but antutu + cpu z seems to support the sellers claim (give me some terminal commands to test :D) -------
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
I agree the i9500 shouldn't have an s600 chipset lol. Neither does it have LTE support, which I saw listed above. Can you post some screenshots of the about screen. If that checks out u might just have an edited build.prop time so its reporting g an incorrect model.

The S5 is a great phone you won't go wrong I have spent some time using the exynos version n it handled evry game i threw at it. MC5 felt lile a console lol. It has an exynos 5422 chipset where as the S has the 5410 with both having a7 n a15 quad cores.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
S5 might be good but compared to S4, the s4 is a bit buggy on the hardware side :P

How would I know if I have edited build.prop or not? :(

P.S. I'll post a video later today(I'll try to manage to get the device for a few tests :p)

EDIT: I run antutu x again to see the actual score as I wasn't remember exactly what I got the last time. I did manage to get 28689 also when the bench was running under the camera it became hot(I didn't have the back cover and I was touching it ..feeling how hot it was - From what I hear this dual quad from samsung has that.

check the pics:

[IMG="Antutu X score"]http://i61.tinypic.com/dcdnns.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Phone Specs according to Antutu"]http://i62.tinypic.com/2it68tu.jpg[/IMG]
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
I don't know about the S4 being buggy, I have had mine for over a year and haven't had one issue with it. How did u come to the conclusion that it's buggy mate?

Those pics are not right at all. The i9500 is reporting as having a adreno 320 which is not right.

If u download root browser then navigate to the system folder u should find the build.prop there n be able to open it. Without root u can't edit or save the file though.

I would download the latest official Samsung firmware and try load it via Odin. I see you are sunning 4.3 and the latest firmwares are all 4.4.2 so an upgrade will give better performance. I hit 32K every time in the new antutu 5 which u used.

I seriously suspect u have an i9505 though as An tutu is reading your chipset info as Qualcomm.

I'll upload some screenshots if u wish to compare.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
I'll use root explorer to see (although how do I find if it's edited or not? I mean how do you know if its original or not?) - thx

Upload if you can mate,

About firmware update ..if she wishes to root in the future it would be easier to root her 4.3 rather than 4.4.2. The phone has stickers all over it Screaming GT-I9500 but the internals look like i9505 ..I'm very :confused:

Kies doesn't offer any update but I've seen that before. Did they put the internals of the 9505 to this phone or what? ..Can you upload me a picture when the phone is charging(and it's turned off), I get one small white battery in the center(not very exciting, compared to other phones I've seen - not that it matters just wondering..)

P.S. What results does i9505 get in latest antutu x(or so called antutu v5 beta)? ..any idea?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jamieridler:
I don't know about Antutu 5 test, I'm using 4, but on my GT-I9505, stock BTU 4.4.2, I get 28576. Not a massive score, people who optimize their phones will get higher, but it's about the same as your score.

I did a quick play store search for Antutu X and it said it's a variant of the app for Chinese phones so didn't bother with it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
So yours is an original i9505? ..the antutu x says you have a clone? (in antutu it says in my gf's phone that's an s4), I'm on 4.3 stock so I believe it will get me 29.000 easy if I move to 4.4.2

Antutu X - Antutu with anti-cheat code so samsung doesn't "perform" better, many other phone companies have cheats. The only weird thing is when you try to install antutu x, it says "antutu v5 beta" no x in it :P (as in older versions)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
There's plenty of methods to root your S4 if its running 4.4.2. Just search this forum and you will find its no more difficult to root 4.4.2 than 4.3.

Something is definitely weird about your S4, I'm concerned that Kies hasn't offered you an update to 4.4.2. I'm from South Africa and if I load a stock rom Kies shows there's an update.

I've attached pics of my Antutu results and Device Info. Also I've attached my build.prop file too. I would suggest downloading Notepad++ and use it to view as using the standard windows notepad will make comparing them hard as it doesn't format the layout as nicely as Notepad++

I dont have another phone here with me to take a pic of the phone charging but I can tell you that its a big green animated battery that fills up a large portion of the screen.

Can you take pics of the phone in download mode, that will be a definitive way to define the model of your S4. If you not sure how to get into download mode - shutdown your phone, press and hold volume down and home button then press the power button without letting go of the volume down and home, then press volume up to continue. You should now see a big green android guy and Odin Mode at the top in red with your product name, current binary and system status. A pic of this screen would be a determining factor.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
For this phone charging while turned off it's a small battery-icon(white) that's moving and if it's lets say 50% it goes from mid to full rather than buttom to top I'll post a pic today if I can (also I'll try to compare build.prop files) and also try to take a picture of the download mode
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
Schweet buddy, I'm looking forward to solving this mystery LOL
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
me too before 45 days since purchase :p

I fail to take a picture when turned off and charging - as my gf is not around but I put her to find me the file and send it to me(don't ask me how did I guide her ..oh dear)

check the build.prop file.

EDIT:

Mine says: " ro.product.board=MSM8960 "

Yours says: " ro.product.board=universal5410 "

Hmmm something smells fishy about mine, how come it gets similar results(in antutu x) but it has a modded build.prop file because that what I see, doesn't make sense, I mean MSM8960 is a damn dual core cpu

also

Mine says: " ro.board.platform=msm8960 "

Yours says " ro.board.platform=exynos5 "

Hmm late on in my gf's prop I see "ro.build.description=jflteuc-user 4.3 JSS15J I337UCUEMJ6 release-keys" Maybe it's the Samsung Galaxy S4 (SGH-i337) - do pay attention on " I337UCUEMJ6 " ..although the stickers in the phone say i9500 not i337, I'm really confused

P.S. Compared to this i9505: http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=6774 I'm pretty close(a tad better) but a bit far compared to i9500 http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=6736
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
msm8960 is just a board name means nothing

and why are you trusting in benchmarks so much?

when a note 3 gets the exact same result as your s4, does that mean they are the same? No? good.

why are you still wasting your and others time? I told you to read out build.prop and cmdline which is done in 2 secs, and until now you only grab the build.prop

Gboss01 already told you to get in download mode and get more informations. why don't you do that?
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gboss01:
Is it possible this is a chinese clone with an S600 chipset? I've seen some clones (none with an S600 chipset but many with the MTK6582) and their riddled with such contradictions ie. sticker says i9500 under the battery and the about shows the model number as GT-i9500 then later on described as jflte when it should read j3ag. Those clones were sold as octa-cores but Antutu showed them as having the MTK6582 chi[set.

I know because in China they only sell the exynos version or i9500 hence why MIUI supports our device officially and not the i9505.

So it makes sense for chinese clone to show as an i9500.

I see no reason why Samsung would sell an i9500 with an S600 chipset, it would confuse the hell out of anyone because you cant load the i9500 firmware on an i9500.

I'm keen on seeing the pic of the download mode it will answer the question. It would be great if we could get a pic of the recovery too.

[MENTION=4447997]evronetwork[/MENTION] please dont take offense at my questions of whether or not this is a clone but its a possibilty we need to consider.
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
Offended for what? trying to help me? :P

I want to get to the buttom of this, if it's exynos or s600 I'll be fine. Seller already told me that maybe one of their techs might did something to unlock it(didn't see anything mentioned in the auction about any lock) - he offer me a partial refund. If this is fake I'll go for full refund, if it's a samsung I'll take the partial refund :victory:

P.S. I need to do this soon as I'll be gone in 8 days ..vacations :good: (I'll try to get the phone today and take pictures of everything I can)
[Galaxy S 4 General] evronetwork:
I don't trust the benches I just don't have anything else to compare. One way will be to open the phone and check the chip itself ..but that won't make my gf very happy

"why are you still wasting your and others time?" having a bad day, feel sorry about you mate. Relax and reply when you're calm

P.S. waiting in a few minutes my gf to arrive and I'll check some stuff also the dl mode (also I did check build.prop and posted - still no comment on that only what I comment on that). Also if you want to be an a$ while not having a bad day please stop talking/writing, just logout and go play with your phone or something, all people can talk offensive and wrong but only a few deserve any attention. 1st respect the other as he/she respects you, if you can't do that you'll probably in the wrong place
[Galaxy S 4 General] Grarak:
Nothing to compare?

There are several apps in play store which reads out the system informations

you could even just look to settings info and compare the baseband

if baseband starts with i9505 you got a msm s4, with i9500 a exynos s4. If you get something else google the name.