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[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
When you guys post a benchmark, specify the damn version!

The above videos with the S600 benchmarks are from Unpacked event, pretty unfinished phones, that's why scored only 15k on antutu and so

Gsmarena updated their review

http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4-review-914p6.php

It's comparing Octa with S600, but they made a mistake in GLBenchmark. That is the 2.5 not 2.7. Adreno sweep the floor with powervr in 2.7
[Galaxy S 4 General] Edu616:
Hi!! I have the canadian version but im having some problems!!in benchmarks mine is getting lower scores than the us versions some of you have posted!! And also in geekbench 2 Im not even able to complete the bench because my phone will get very hot, and it turns off!! Do you think i should return it and get new one?? I think mine is defective!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hippoman13:
I am averaging around 13,000 on Quadrant. (Stock, rooted, Snapdragon). I can't wait for the AT&T roms to increase bring this to 14,000-15,000+
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Get this app if i were you and monitor temps. Mine hit 80c and throttled in antutu to 1.4ghz when i had done a run after long uae and downloads and setting phone up. So id say if it was only in a bench you are fine as bench is unrealistic of real world use.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.alldroid.apps.tempmonitor

If you grab it enable cpu temp in options and set it to show cpu on status bar. If it shutdown it hit thermal safety limit. Try not to run any benches in a row. Let phone cool completely and since ypur on i9500 like me i would maybe turn radios off and bench to lower the heat in that cpu region.

This is 99c

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.alldroid.apps.tempmonitor
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
LOL not finishing Geekbench? Wow really? Mine hardly gets warm completing that Benchmark
[Galaxy S 4 General] Edu616:
I know it sucks right !!!lol
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Dude your mistaken... you must be looking at the S3 which got 15k at the samsung event... I see a 25k+ score from the S600

But you are correct about unfinished phone.. I am able to get better scores then any of the reviews
[Galaxy S 4 General] Edu616:
Whats your normal temp?? On yours?? My cpu right now is on 123F
[Galaxy S 4 General] lostmyphone:
Here's what I found useful for benching instead of clearing cache from the Task Manager:

If you go to [Developer Options] and check [No Background Processes] it will keep the phone from reloading background cache, as opposed to flushing it from the Task Manager. Just a couple of default system processes will remain cached.

Go to Application Manager > Running then tap the RAM bar at the bottom to toggle to see this in action.

If you reboot the phone [Limit Background Processes] resets back to [Standard Limit]. Standard limit meaning all, lol.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BoneXDA:
If they top it out at 1.6GHz it's a good sign that higher clocks are problematic in terms of heat and power drainage. But 1.6 looks like a manageable clock, and unless you run top 3D games which will still eat the phone alive as it does every other one, I see the A7 running 66% of active time (100% of passive) which should be quite good on battery life.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
Xperia Z get ****ed :D

XZ

GS4

the Octa version should do even better :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
^^ Nice find. Source??
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diLD42QafIo :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
cheers!
[Galaxy S 4 General] BoneXDA:
Best. Hands-on. Ever.
[Galaxy S 4 General] xiFIL:
Does anyone know why they are two different processors for different models of the s4?!
[Galaxy S 4 General] kikisp:
because of LTE and octa isnt quite ready yet
[Galaxy S 4 General] ScalpEG:
I definitely think the opposite.

It has to be confirmed by benchmarks but the main purpose of Octa is energy saving. I guess perfs will be same on both SoC, but consumption is expected to be way better on Octa.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Toss3:
Octa is definitely the performance champ when the A15s are engaged, and the sgx544MP3 will definitely be better for modern games.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Yea but it depends what kind of user you are.

If you're on the a15s most of the time your battery will probably be empty in no time.

Factor in the perceived difficulty in developing for exynos and that's why I believe s600 is the one to have.

Like I say though it will be a much easier decision to make when they are both tested in detail
[Galaxy S 4 General] ScalpEG:
You're totally right about the GPU. But for the CPU, I guess Samsung clocks Snapdragon at 1.9 in order to offer close perfs.

Consumption will be the judge.

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You're right on that point. But for a normal utilization by a normal user (if it is possible to define "normal" :D), A7s are expected to do a big part of the job, saving battery life.

If benchmarks would not show such a saving on a normal usage, I would consider technically Octa as a fail. Wait and see...
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Agreed!
[Galaxy S 4 General] BluesRulez:
SPH-L720 benchmarked.

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2&device_id=6559
[Galaxy S 4 General] hung2900:
Nenamark 2 is sooo useless now
[Galaxy S 4 General] Seanambers:
Well, since there is so little real information retaining to the performance of the Exynos 5 Octa I find it hard to make a 100% informed decision between the two. However it seems clear to me that there have to be a significant saving in terms of power use with the big.LITTLE architecture.

Why else would Samsung bother with designing a 2x4 core SOC?

Exynos SOC's have historically when released been market leaders in performance. Even if high performance is equal between the two, the Big.little architecture should provide a significant reduction in power consumption.

So I can't imagine why anyone would want a GS4 with a Krait SOC.

When it comes to the LTE side of things, i believe that the only reason why Samsung is shipping GS4 with Krait SOC's now is because of a low/late initial production of Exynos SOC's.

I find it hard to believe that Samsung have designed a SOC without adding all LTE bands.

So i'm waiting for Exynos based GS4 and i think everyone else should too, unless you need a phone asap.

Of course I could be wrong, but I don't think so.

GS4 with Krait is a stopgap solution.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
i think you're assuming you have a choice - i dont think thats the case.

someone will correct me if im wrong, but i thought the chipsets were market-specific?

for the record, if i was given the choice - i would definitely take the S600 option now.

1) development will be behind it

2) no transition between sets of cores kicking in (which produces lag in the demo versions)

3) throttling WILL be much less of a worry

4) power consumption will be more linear and less likely to catch you out if you unexpectedly find yourself playing games or browsing for a couple of hours

again though, take everything with a pinch of salt until there are some real relevant benchmarks done
[Galaxy S 4 General] Seanambers:
Yes, annoyingly little good information available at this time, but I do think the Exynos is way better than the Snapdragon, which is why i'm waiting. :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] system.img:
No demo version was the Octa one(correct me if I'm wrong)

All of them were the S600 and I don't think the production of Octa has started yet.
[Galaxy S 4 General] TingTingin:
Octa production starts in Q2

S4 INFO
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Its getting 32c idle to start and ranges up to 50c using the Internet radio with downloading or browsing. Im still getting used to it vs my SPH-L710, all the same monitor and temp methods worked just fine. You know your just probably running into rogue process running cpu up a lot or radio heat added to that. Like i said heavy usage put it in 60-80c range in Antutu. I haven't run much more than that. You shouldn't be hitting 65-80 unless you are running a bench at the time. Dont run benches plugged into charger that builds heat. I haven't found this i9500 to be any hotter than my SPH-L710 clocked at 1674-1890mhz on these benches. At 1890 on that phone if i ran it more than twice and had throttle disabled it would be able to reach shut off temp. Pm me if youd like and i actually may have a good amount of advice to keep it cool during usage. I don't think you got a dud and I don't think this somehow makes yours handle less than the s600 version which both seem to be sitting for the most part at the top of the market.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Edu616:
Im only using the internet and yes it is 50c
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
Likely everybody is running these different options and hardware on at one time. Antutu top has 32k+ score but user used a freezer to keep it cool to show under optimal conditions its top performance. Average users aren't comparing these apples to apples. Ideal everyone should let phone cool and run with no radios on gps, bluetooth,voice text, mobile data, wifi on all of them. No added heat and test your gpus and cpus as you were. If some of your goals are to bench real world usage like browser performance and phone health like operating temps while using mobile data or wifi but in any case details are important. Media scanner scans at boot and when data on sd card is updated written. It can run pretty long and heat phone up and pegs many cpus at full load on whichever threads have been loaded with it. There are many other things that are in Jelly Bean builds that tend to need user modifications to drop the amount of load on the system. For some qosmgr, gsif, smdexe peg cpu. Its hard to say what he has installed. Ive tried plentt of apps and its easy background internet usage and high cpu load lead to his issues. A good friend of mine had a sprint gs4 and he had to get a replacement when it was warm it rebooted on him not even hot and eventually kept bootlooping even battery pulling and was still stock. Both models aren't immune to defects. He may have a bad hardware issue but until he uses it more and tries to debug whats causing the heat like what i have discussed he doesn't necessarily have a bad one. Mine doesn't throttle all the time i was downloading many things at once the whole evening. The fact is all s600 throttle too or if pegged at full would melt if not for mhz throttle and thermal shut off, of which i am thankful they have their safe guards. The exynos version has the a15's and for a phone or tablet wouldn't be good if it didn't drop down some under high temps as well as four 1.89ghz clocked krait cores. Going by quadrant cpu bench only which is short term they score very close to same in optimal conditions (temps for one) and on Antutu Exynos pulls ahead i suspect for the shear heat and load it puts on cpu for as long as it does... Likely if quadrant is near on both and antutu lower on cpu on s600 then it seems the s600 must be throttling a bit just the same and not maintaining max mhz of cpu entire time....

Point is they all throttle and its no big deal.

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If the cpu is 50c your in god standing. Let it sit awhile and make sure unnecessary radios are off. Dont worry unless your browsing only and hit 70+ even then some browsers push cpu pretty well. Your battery temp may be the culprit too. If you use brightness at max and get real busy on both models they get warm, plenty on the web about it. Try wifi if you have it and turn mobile data off to see if it surfs cooler like that. 3g adds a ton of heat on my s3 and its all the radios fault due to amount of power draw in short times
[Galaxy S 4 General] mflow:
another day, another benchmark :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] Vadrieldur:
Holy...:fingers-crossed: how did you do that?
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
maybe Some freezer test :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] matheus_sc:
i think is perseus kernel and some remove blotware, gt-i9500 there a long way, i think 35 mil points soon
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Another day another freezer
[Galaxy S 4 General] mflow:
nope, i just did any normal benchmark. lol. no freezer and cooling stuff :) . it just like the Phone was not throttling it's GPU when it is doing the OpenGL 2.0 Bench :)

and yes, it is AndreiLux's Kernel :D . the SHV300L version is better tho.. could reach 32k easily :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chuck Bartowski:
It's over 30000!

My benchmark:

Of course with GT-I9500 and Perseus kernel.
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
New Ranking Antutu:

Only Octa +30 000!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Aqrab:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mpdu5FDFEc

http://www.youtube.com/subscription_center?add_user=aqrab1
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
My stock Octa version on the pictured firmware version. Fully stock, not rooted, and full of bloat.

I have one woth high score and one with highest cpu subscore too.

Quadrant
[Galaxy S 4 General] RCJ89:
Just got my I9505 today and I am getting around 18000 on antutu for some reason but phone is working well
[Galaxy S 4 General] matheus_sc:
the second results is my

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93477710/s4/Screenshot_2013-05-10-19-23-43.png

how get 13900 in quadrant?
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Interesting why some people in the perseus thread are saying they were getting 28k stock on the i9500 and now with that kernel they are getting 29k . And here your saying I got 31k without doing anything special just using his kernel looooool ..when you see so many different scores that's when u know someones talkin out of there ass. And its usually not the people with the lower scores

The problem is no one is doing the benchmarks the same way. Which equals to many non accurate results
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Cocorico the first it's me ;)

ROM Wanamlite + Perseus Kernel.

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9500 avec Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] BoneXDA:
Are these AnTuTu 30.000+ S4s overclocked?
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Lol not overclocked. the result is validated by antutu...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] rodrigonba:
Custom rom ? stock rom ? Kernel??

:good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] touness69:
How did you get yours while you live in France ? :)

And secondly, did you downclocked your S4 ?? Coz antut is saying your S4 is running at 1.4Ghz :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Ordered on valuebasket.com (Hongkong).

For 1.4GHz it is a bad interpretation of Antutu and it is not the first time.

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[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
His phone may have throttled to 1.4ghz a sec but as you see it hasn't slowed it down but helped it get through with a high calculation rate. This is nearly as high as korean top score now. So close. Notice how no s600 comes near these stock antutu runs :)

International phones can be order nearly worldwide. I ordered from Expansys.Com.

This firmware full stock unrooted complete stock

Quadrant 14,025 gs4 gti9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] touness69:
Me too and at the same time as you, but mine have yet to be delivered :/
[Galaxy S 4 General] BoneXDA:
So anyone tried overclocking to 1.8GHz, even higher with some ice helping with the heat?
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
My results. Almost everything is on, using stock firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
I wish I have yet to see a single OC kernel so far. I am not sure we can set the full 1.8ghz in the future but I can hope just like you :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Tomorow ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] MaKTaiL:
New Epic Citadel Ultra High Quality Benchmark.
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
PowerVR SGX 544 MP3:

Like a Boss :cool:

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[Galaxy S 4 General] MaKTaiL:
So PowerVR is indeed better than Adreno 320. At least for this engine.
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Mine got 45.6 fps too :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] MaKTaiL:
Did anybody notice any graphical differences from High to Ultra High on Epic Citadel?

It looks almost the same for me. :S
[Galaxy S 4 General] superandroid2011:
Yes I can see them (at least dynamic light shafts, post-process and bloom).

According to google play app info they are:

- dynamic light shafts

- post-process

- bloom

- material bump offset effects

These effects works only in GPUs that supports them.
[Galaxy S 4 General] touness69:
LMAO

Adreno 320 is really rubbish actually..

Can't wait to receive my i9500 this afternoon :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
Not rubbish. But expected much better from a 3-yr old new GPU.
[Galaxy S 4 General] touness69:
that's why I said rubbish, 3 year newer but still not capable to perform better on this test
[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
Yea, if we consider that PowerVR Series 6 'Rogue' will be in products this year and Mali with T658 also in contention, Adreno 320/330 doesn't look too good. Let's see how it turns out.
[Galaxy S 4 General] an9093:
I am planning to buy S4

But I'm not sure which is better

Snapdragon 600

1.9 Ghz

Quad Core Krait 300.

or

Exynos5

1.6 Ghz Octal Core

Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7

4g and installing roms is not important to me

Which is better in terms of performance?

Which is better for gaming?
[Galaxy S 4 General] MaKTaiL:
If you don't care about 4G go with the Exynos version.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shocky2:
Wasn't Epic Citadel first developed for the iPhone which also uses PowerVR hardware? just a thought.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shocky2:
Exynos version for both, however performance will vary depending on the what devices the developers choose to optimize for.

Should note that the Exynos version wasn't available for me, it was either get the qualcomm version or wait for the Exynos version which may or may not be released here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] an9093:
both versions are available in my contry the same price with warrenty
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shocky2:
If you don't need 4G get the Exynos version. :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kruse@s4:
Galaxy S4 Octa Score

Hi everybody....

First time posting here..... :)

Just bought new Galaxy S4 octa version and it is soo awesome....

Just wanted to share some benchmark results....

One downside is internal memory is almost full ... but other than that loving the new experience...
[Galaxy S 4 General] tclocki:
Were getting very similar results. Stock rom here. Love my i9500 too! I'm not too fond of installing roms and LTE as I am just heavy on internet usage at home or in the office thats why I went to great lengths to get this phone rather than sticking to the lte enabled variant. I love doing lots of things on my phone and some gaming too that's why I chose the i9500.
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
I9505 is much better and I will keep saying that. Better battery life when doing tasks, better gpu with OpenGL ES 3.0
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
OpenGL ES 3.0 OpenGL ES 3.0 OpenGL ES 3.0.............

Spam??? :confused:

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[Galaxy S 4 General] tclocki:
Regardless, each variant has its own pros and cons, in the end, it is still the SGS4 so yeah. Cheers! :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Linpack multi:

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[Galaxy S 4 General] ChronoReverse:
Hmm, I just remembered that no one has posted RgbenchMM (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.codedivine.rgbench) scores for the i9500 for 1, 2 and 4 threads.

Would someone kindly post those if you have the i9500?
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Good for PowerVR?

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[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
Great for PowerVR! I got "only" 10410 and 6328 respectively.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
what build number ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
i9500XXUAME1.
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Last Run (3 runs only) with ME1 :cool:

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[Galaxy S 4 General] CLARiiON:
Very good numbers for PowerVR.

Actually amazing for a 3-yr old GPU.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
^^

i wish it was 4 cores instead of 3 it would do even better :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
My Octa :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] ChronoReverse:
Has anyone had a chance to run the benchmark?
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
Here you go, my I9500:

1

2

4
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
what the hell with 4 threads the same as 2 threads :eek::eek::eek:

can u run the 4 threads again
[Galaxy S 4 General] AndreiLux:
He's probably thermal throttling after running the bench several times. I get 4025 MFlops.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yahyoh:
Great its about 2 times better than note2 :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] noideaforusername:
After some 40 minutes of usage.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ChronoReverse:
Many thanks! I've been wondering where the A15 stood.

I had heard there was supposed to be a sort of "turbo" when running a single threaded task, is that not currently available or was it a baseless rumour?
[Galaxy S 4 General] POLO_i780:
yahyoh

I never even noticed! Lol! Ran the 4 threads again and got this:
[Galaxy S 4 General] azdine57:
Sunspider 1.0:

747.9ms ;)

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[Galaxy S 4 General] allgsmnetwork:
My 9505 linpack multi thread 814 :laugh: Nexus 4 150 max

antutu 25.500 + vs nexus 4 18.000

quadrant standard 12.500 + vs nexus 4 4000 +

impressive S4 the TOP :good:

All stock !!!

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Exynos octa problems such as S3? Qualcoom is a guarantee in the world and also has LTE network in my opinion is better for developers qualcomm...
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
This is the I9505 over clocked Only 100mhz more. My wifi on, battery at 15% and this was throttling as I was playing a game not long before

Check the CPU Score :D 45,309

When it gets to 100% battery And rested I will try again
[Galaxy S 4 General] an9093:
I am planning to buy S4

But I'm not sure which is better

Snapdragon 600

1.9 Ghz

Quad Core Krait 300.

or

Exynos5

1.6 Ghz Octal Core

Quad Core Cortex A15 / Quad Core A7

4g and installing roms is not important to me

Which is better in terms of performance?

Which is better for gaming, sound and camera?
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
well I know the GPU is alot newer on the S600... The CPU Stock vs stock the Exynos Gets ahead of it a little....

Sound And camera are too close to compare I really think you wont even be able to tell a difference here.

In regards to gaming and sound both devices will perform practically the same Id say, samsung tried really hard to get them equal
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
Wow, that rocks. And it's supposed that the S600 can't be overclocked because it's at maximum at 1.9ghz huh? :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
I can Over clock it to 2.1Ghz... And We are hoping to pull more out of it But we will have to wait for the legend Faux. :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] demlasjr:
Do an Antutu when you can please
[Galaxy S 4 General] mw86:
It goes higher check what my buddy Ktoonsez released for sprint gs4 :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2288309

[KERNEL][SPRINT][TOUCHWIZ][5/20/2013] KT-SGS4 - MDL - KTweaker

Here is more from my GT-I9500
[Galaxy S 4 General] whitemamba:
Hey!

Can someone under clock the GT-i9505 to 1.7 GHz and do the benchmarks (essentially quadrant, antutu and 3d mark ice storm)? Only then we can fairly compare it with the HTC One.

I'm planning to buy one of these two phones, just want to see if the S4's CPU is better even when they are at the same clock speed.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 General] btemtd:
Waiting on more development, apparently Faux stated something about the qualcomm libs which causes antutu to close down when you run a benchmark..

Geekbench and Antutu same problem...

Quadrant runs Fine check out my CPU score on Quadrant, Higher then the I9500 above me... Also one of the guys in Faux thread pulled a 14100 quadrant score with a cpu score of 48k Highest I have ever seen on any S4 variant to date.

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I Just did a quadrant on 1.674Ghz and got a a 11893 first run, no clearing memory or anything.

Next frequency step I did is 1782ghz same thing as above First run gave me 12039