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[Galaxy S III General] expertzero1:
Im using a nexus 4 right now, i had a s3 and note 2 before that. The note 2 had one of the best battery life I ever had. Even though the nexus 4 is running a custom kernel and all that stuff, it doesn't even come close to the note 2 in terms of battery life. 2-4 hours On screen time with my nexus 4 with hspa, and 5-8 hours plus on the note 2.

If the S4 has a 2600 mah battery with a exynos 5 processor, it will be a beast in terms of battery life.

Being able to change which cores to run 2 a7/2a15 or 3a17/1a7 would be awesome.

Really regretting switching to the nexus 4. Even though stock android is great, having the option with touchwiz roms / aosp roms is a plus.

Pros/cons

-1080p vs 720p

-2600 mah battery compared to 2100 mah non removable

-13mp vs 8mp, even though the nexus 4 has one of the worst cameras on the market right now.

-Poly carbonate body vs glass back on the nexus 4

-Power efficient exynos vs throttled s4 pro process. My nexus 4 gets hot very fast :(

-Awesome camera software vs stock

All I can think of that matters to me. lol
[Galaxy S III General] barondebxl:
Lol you're a comedian.
[Galaxy S III General] takato23:
anybody knows if it's going to record in 120 fps? And will be micro sd uhs-1 standard compatible?
[Galaxy S III General] swift2fly:
definitely not worth buying if it won't protect me from North Korea's WMD.

thank you thank you. Actually my eye is on the S4 for now, it was on the HTC One and Sony Xperia Z but the released specs of the s4 has gotten my attention. I may very well be sticking with Samsung but we will see..i won't be upgrading anytime soon anyways..i just recently setup my s3 the way i want it. If i get an S4 when it comes out..i will never be at peace, i would be busy rooting it and then taking the time to in finding the right rom and then setting up that rom the way i want it. But at least it's a cheaper hobby than modifying cars.

Here is my initial thoughts on the S4..please come with decent earphones with anti-tangle wire and at least a small convenient pouch to carry it in. Just as long as you can make phones calls, hop on the internet, sms, i'll be fine because i wouldn't use you to your fullest potential..i'll just have you for bragging rights..tweak you out and post up my High Score Benchmark numbers from time to time, then bash on other phones.
[Galaxy S III General] GoJo ^^:
those sdcard works in any android.

Sent from my GT-I9100
[Galaxy S III General] xjrspeed:
I may just wait for carrier to start selling S3 at blowout prices like they did with the S2

after the S3 came out.

If I really wanted something different then the Note 2 already scratches that itch.

In sum, the S4 is a nice update but not really a game changer. I'm going to take another

look at the Note 2. I've waited long enough with my S2!
[Galaxy S III General] Kremata:
Not on the Nexus 4
[Galaxy S III General] takato23:
yes, it works but like a class 10, it doesn't take advantage from the uhs-1 speeds
[Galaxy S III General] barondebxl:
I hear you.

Before the announcement i said that i was going to be disappointed if the S4 looks very similar than the S3. It does and i was disappointed but i'm looking at the bigger picture. While i wished that samsung had introduced a whole new design, i think the S4 looks better than the S3. Then you got the specs that are absolutely, ridiculously awesome ( exynos 5 octa, 2 gigs of ram DDR3, Super AMoled HD 1080P, 13 MP camera, 5 inch screen, 2600 mah battery, expandable storage). And the plethora of features ( air view, smart stay, smart pause, smart scroll....). Samsung is at least trying to bring things to the table. Some will call it gimmicky, some will call it innovative and everybody has an opinion but i think it is awesome. This phone is so powerful, i think i'll get it and chill for a year or more cause with these specs it can run anything.
[Galaxy S III General] sohebq:
Well I will still buy s4 despite all the negative comments. I have used S1, S2, S3, Note 1 and note 2. I have kept reading the similar comments ever since I started using Samsung android. For me design is not a first priority. I know Samsung can't change it so why should I cry for that for being a loyal customer. The thing I most care about is how software performs, what's new it is. Thanks to Samsung for their continuous improvement in software department. Even the gimmeks are useful. I can't go for HTC one or Xperia Z because I know I would be missing so many things. The coolest thing about Samsung is it brings combined features from all the latest phones. This makes it a worth purchasing product. I don't fee like I am missing something. Yes design could have been better or at least changed from S3, still its worth buying. I am not 100% disappointed. I can say I am 50% 50%. :) Looking forward to S4.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Quite agree, and I also think the design has improved, as far as I'm aware the bezel is now aluminium, I like the more symmetrical shape, I'm a big fan I of the plastic back, it's cheap to replace and absorbs impact, and finally to software.......I seem to have come full circle to a stock odex Rom, with a very light debloat and jkays, stock kernel, and I'm really impressed by samsung and the improvements in the software since release.... I didn't last a day before I ditched it when I bought it, but it really is coming of age, ... .. . Sure, TW is still pretty ugly, but you can mask most of that.... . As for vanilla android..... buy a nexus..........simples :)
[Galaxy S III General] illmatic24:
Is the exynos octa-core chip variant international only?
[Galaxy S III General] expertzero1:
Yes. Seems worth it to me. Hspa is fine by me. Plus quicker software updates
[Galaxy S III General] illmatic24:
I was hoping to see the octa-core CPU in North America too. :(
[Galaxy S III General] w00tc0d3:
Let me say it straight to the point. I'm disappointed.

- Pentile.

- Uglier than S3.

- Exynos hasn't LTE support - wut?

- No Qcomm Snapdragon 800 in US/NL version.

- Again that plastic.

w00tc0d3
[Galaxy S III General] skibadee:
Lol this reminds me of the 'not worth the upgrade' comments made when the s3 came out a year ago.

Hmm...

Better cpu (Exynos 5s are fast (had n10)

Better gpu (same as iPhone 5)

2x the ram (multitasking sucks on s3)

Better battery

13 v 8mp camera

1080 v 720

Floating touch

Lighter

Thinner

Bigger screen less bezel

All the new software features

Seems like enough improvements for me to upgrade.

My brother in law is buying my s3, so will only cost me £250 for the s4 (assuming it's around £500)

As for the plastic casing debate I don't care as I'll probably buy another UAG case for the s4 anyway.
[Galaxy S III General] Z3US911:
Hardware YES

Software YES

Design NO

i will still buy it :D
[Galaxy S III General] got-petrol:
2 x the ram won't it be waisted ram as every body goes on about
[Galaxy S III General] beaver2233:
+1 - most people shove cases on their phones, so why care what it's made of. I'd take the S4 with a micro sd-card slot and removable battery any day over the HTC one (even though it may look and feel 'premium').
[Galaxy S III General] rinma50:
will galaxy s3 get rom from gs4? and when ?
[Galaxy S III General] ididnt:
I wish they changed the home button design in the s4, it looks the same as the s3's. It's wide enough but not high enough. You have to sort point your thumb to use it. Doesn't feel natural.
[Galaxy S III General] sxi200:
Hang on! Are you saying the S4 International won't support 4g/LTE?
[Galaxy S III General] sohebq:
Can someone tell me how IR blaster is going to work? If I have smart tv, do I still need any other device to control Tv from S4?
[Galaxy S III General] farrukh494:
It will work with most TVs including the ancient ones. You do not need a smart tv or any other device to use it as a remote. The IR blaster makes ur phone a normal TV remote.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
He's talking rubbish......it quite clearly stated it was lte........like Samsung would release a non lte flagship?!
[Galaxy S III General] disclaimernotice:
Battery saving features:

Big-little architecture of the octo core CPU

More efficient amoled

Bigger battery

Battery draining features:

Bigger screen

More pixels

Smart pause (or whatever it's called), which would probably need the camera on all the time

Air view and the ability to use the screen with gloves will likely mean that the screen uses more battery

So, what do you guys think? Will the battery life of the s4 be better than the s3? I'm guessing it will probably be the same

Also, on a separate note, why are people still complaining that this isn't super amoled plus? Who cares? With a pixel density of 440+, it no longer matters. Even if you account for the lack of green pixels, it will still give a very high 'effective' pixel density, no?
[Galaxy S III General] terranoid:
It will be better. :)
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Beware the LTE, for 'tis a mythical battery consuming beast from the dark abyss ;)
[Galaxy S III General] bungadudu:
S4's battery is bigger than the one is S3 - [IMG=http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/1559/imag0006lp.jpg][/IMG]
[Galaxy S III General] pakudaboy:
looks like S3 gonna last for another 6 months...
[Galaxy S III General] swift2fly:
enough time for me to save up for the S4. Where i'm from there are no service provider contracts..you have to buy the phone straight up. hopefully i can re-coup some of that money when I sell my S3.
[Galaxy S III General] :
You nailed it! Double the number of cores and the insane resolution alone are worth the purchase. Not to mention the camera quality getting close to a Nikon DSLR. Well not quite.. I'm a D-90 owner:)

I guess other people are more impressed by silly useless apps.

If I didn't have a S3 already I'd be getting the S4. Damn it, not even that would stop me.
[Galaxy S III General] Pitbull_Raven:
Guys... GUYS.... That's all fine and good and all... BUT WHEN IS SOMEONE GOONA TRY GET THIS PORTED??? :D

Personally, I can hardly wait.
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
Poor viewing angles? Are you insane? Have you 'actually' seen a HTC One X up close? It has possibly one of the best viewing angles of all phones, you speak about glass alot but the HTC One is all metal, yeah it'll dent if you drop it maybe but it has that premium feel to it, as it has premium build quality you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between an S3 & S4!

Batterylife gets a lot better after jelly bean for HTC phones.
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I was referring to the Sony Z, it has atrocious viewing angles ;)
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
Ah I agree with you on that, that truly was rediculous. Nasty, nasty for watching stuff on unless you was 1mm away from the screen in a darkened room and was looking at it exactly parallel to the ground and your face.

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BTW sorry if it seemed like I'd gone overboard there or was attacking your opinions, really didn't mean it to come over that agressive, I just like a good debate is all and now that I've had my first cup of coffee all is well again with the world.
[Galaxy S III General] mkendra:
I'm so dissapointed because Samsung has created yet another plastic piece of sh*t. Why don't they use high end materials (glass and metal) on their Ultimate phone? I like what's inside but I don't like the outside. GS3 was my last samsung product and I'm really sorry because of that :(
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
At least you wont need to use TouchWiz again if the S3 is your last Sammy product :laugh::victory::angel:
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
Lol.....we all go there at times, no hard feelings mate, I almost rose to the bait but thought I would give you the benefit of the doubt ;):D

---------- Post added at 10:50 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:39 AM ----------

One extra thought

Plastic back = function over form

Glass back (strangely perceived as "premium" ;) ) = form over function
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
Octo-core = form over function.

It's the best example of the "Because we can" mentality I've ever seen
[Galaxy S III General] Yahi:
S translate = Google translate ripoff..

How many other features were taken from Google and renamed?

I feel like they're building a brand of their with this S-stuff, that if in a couple of years they diss Android and use Tizen most consumers aren't even going to realize it's a different OS (especially since it'll most likely run Touchwiz).

Now don't get me wrong, I've owned and loved the S3; it's just that I don't like how Samsung seems to be going the Apple way now.

BTW: I do like how you can use the phone with gloves on =)
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
I'm inclined to agree although I have heard there are significant power saving advantages to the octo core, but being a technical simpleton I have nothing to back this up, other than what I remember reading! :D
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
:good::highfive:

iirc you can't use all 8 cores at any one time, even during say a high demand game, it'll only ever be the full 4 cores but the other 4 are there to slightly back it up on efficiency or something like that.
[Galaxy S III General] papakaliati:
Octo Cpu sounds great. Its like having the phone underclocked and overclocked at the same time.
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
Yeah but surely the fact that the phone is going to be switching cores and governors all the time will have an impact upon the battery life.
[Galaxy S III General] richardlibeau:
Glad I skipped the s3 gotta get the s4.
[Galaxy S III General] djluis48:
The guys at The Verge thinks different, and i agree with them.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/14/4105448/how-samsung-copies-apple-by-copying-itself
[Galaxy S III General] skibadee:
Seriously what would count as a big enough design change these days to make something 'original' a round phone? Maybe one that hovers 1 foot off the ground?

Samsung changed its design from the s2 mainly because of stupid patent rulings. The s3 shape works, it doesn't infringe apples crap so why drastically change it?

If i buy a new amp for my home theater, it's what it does and sounds like that matters, not because it's a different shape to my last one.

I'd be surprised if the s5 looks much different either when that inevitably gets released.

If games like n4s most wanted run lag free and completely smooth on the s4 (unlike the s3) then I'm happy. I've never upgraded my pc's case whenever I buy a new cpu/gpu. My antec 900s done me just fine for years.

Just my piece :)
[Galaxy S III General] delsus:
Except you have no idea how the exynos 5 octa works, it has 4 slow low power cores in use whilst performing low end tasks, then when you play games for example it switches seemlessy to the 4 high speed cores, so it is function over form.

And I'm going to say something about this glass and metal = premium feel first on the glass, the biggest fear among users is dropping their phone and breaking the screen, what do you think will happen when you drop a glass phone the entire thing will crack.

And aluminium doesn't =build quality, is a 30k car not worth it because its made of plastic? what about a 4k TV? Games console, washer, refrigerator. The fact is most things are made of plastic until it comes to phones then its instantly cheap and nasty.

If you want metal to be a premium feel make them out of Titanium, except the price will skyrocket if that happened.
[Galaxy S III General] drakester09:
:eek:

I'm extremely confused by the reasoning of your post....

Also, are we accepting HTC fellows in our forum now? Are we that desperate for trolling??

Isn't Shawty enough?:laugh: (I kid, I kid)
[Galaxy S III General] Tatsuya79:
I wonder about this new pentile arrangement...

They were sharing 2 subpixels + 1 horizontally to make a pixel on the S3.

Now, are they doing the same with those 2 little green subpixels lighten at once, or just 1 and an additional sharing?

Hard to explain but my fear is: they now share red and blue subpixels between the lines, only the green subpixels are close to a standard 1080p matrix.

Share subpixels in line + share subpixels (red and blue) vertically.

This needs some investigation.

All in all I agree it will be OK in everyday usage but...

if that's the case what is the point of going for something that will be close to a 720p rendering while putting more pressure on the GPU with the 1080p resolution?

(who said marketing?)

And the 441pi affirmation would be a joke.

Anyway I have no proof of that yet. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III General] The-Last-Hylian:
Yes I already understood that, it reminds me of the companion core in the Tegra 3 chipsets.

I know perfectly well how the exynos 5 octa works, it's based on the big.LITTLE arm architecture nad I know that one way or another, you'll have a quad core in use be it the 1.8 cortex-A15 cluster or the 1.2 cotrex-A7 cluster, I'm up to speed on how it works.

I still think that metal does exude a premium feel to it, it's not about what we think it'll feel like as apposed to what it'll 'actually' feel like, the HTC One will feel like a much better phione in the hand and there's no point arguing that as it's practically a given.

Aluminium is a good substance due to it's chemical composition for a phone, it's soft so has a decent amount of give to it, something that'll help it if it is dropped, that's why Aluminium car bumpers are more effective than plastic ones, plastic car bumpers are only used for it's lightness. You reference games consoles, I'm probably wrong but isn't the Xbox 360 shell brushed aluminium?

Funny. I'm here because I'm interested in the SGS4, I haven't preoprdered the HTC One yet and I was waiting until after the SGS4 was released to make up my mind. I'm here making my mind up now.

What confuses you? It should be called a quad-duo (I'll trademark this later!) really, not an octo-core as it's not a single SoC really is it, well it's two groups of four processor cores.

I still think that as it switches between the cores and what's going on with the phone at any given time it'll have to changes the voltage and freak out whichever governor is being used, but maybe I'm not getting it right so I'm not as intelligent as you eh?
[Galaxy S III General] CoLFC:
SGS4

I personally can't wait.

It looks gorgeous.

It brings some really cool new features and you just know its going to be the best phone on the market when it comes.

I will be getting one ASAP ! :cool:
[Galaxy S III General] rickoslyder:
I'm sick of hearing all this "premium design" bull****. Does the look of the phone make any difference to the usage of the phone? No. You premium design addicts would be better off with Crapple(better looks, not so good OS). As far as I'm concerned, the only REAL concern people should have about the look is removable battery and SD slot - S4 has both.

Brutally murdering someone I met on XDA with a sharpened iPhone and some semtex butt plugs just because they asked me to using Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] rinma50:
When is s4 coming to the market?
[Galaxy S III General] BaronInkjet:
No compelling reason to give up my I9300. Was tempted by HTC One, but skeptical on camera and audio quality. Yeah, the new Samsung is nicer in a lot of ways... would love the IR blaster... but probably not enough to get one. I really don't love the roundy-corner Samsung design. It is nice that they didn't change it though and make ours look obsolete.
[Galaxy S III General] gabsmb:
Just like i9300 is ;)

Where the f*** is iOS?
[Galaxy S III General] SpaceGooner:
Just like the S3 the dialer lag is still there on the s4 even with all those cores. Check out the video on GSMArena to see what I mean
[Galaxy S III General] sohebq:
Accessories list for S4

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/15/accessories-announced-by-samsung-for-the-galaxy-s-4/

Galaxy S 4 may not be the best thing ever but with these things, Samsung is surely raising the industry standard for next couple of years.
[Galaxy S III General] daleski75:
As samsung will be releasing both variants with global LTE support it would make sense for the octa-core version to also include LTE.
[Galaxy S III General] stierney:
Anyone find out what sound chip is being used? Is it the wolfson ? Im just hoping its not the pile if crap they shipped with the s2, thats all ;)

Xant find a full componenet spec sheet anywhere :(
[Galaxy S III General] diego9016:
Not impressed at all... Most of the innovations are software related.

Besides, it looks exactly as a bigger S3. Now i'm ready for the XZ or the One.
[Galaxy S III General] BLADESMAN1889:
Wow !

It looks......................................

exactly the SAME !

Surprise surprise. Change the record Samsung.

This is why, when the S3 came out and my 2yr contract was coming up for renewal on my Galaxy S I was so disappointed.

Again it comes down to personal choice but I wanted something different, not after 2yrs with another 2yr contract to be staring at the same soft keys & home button (& the soft keys are EXACTLY the same design, color, position etc etc)

Sent from Nexus⁴ via XDA app [AOKP_b5]
[Galaxy S III General] slaphead20:
.....then stay with your nexus ;)
[Galaxy S III General] jayc1980:
Is it just me that thinks his S3 DOES feel premium. I had an S2 before and now my mum has it and I had a hold of it when she popped round before, and that feels like cheap plastic.

I still look at my S3 in amazement at how good it looks! I wont be getting the S4, but thats only due to the fact im locked into a 2 year contract. Otherwise I really like the S4, and would definitely purchase. (Oh I dont stick with one brand I get the phone 'I' like).

On a side note, im sure the amazing devs here will port many features to our S3 :beer:

sent from my gt19300 ltd omega edition
[Galaxy S III General] jonny68:
Having spent more time looking into it i still haven't changed my mind it's not worth the upgrade, i know I said I wouldn't buy the HTC One on the basis that no SD card slot but i only seen you can also get a 64GB version and that would be enough for me so my couple of years "love affair" the with Samsung is coming to an end date, whenever I have the cash cash il be buying the HTC One
[Galaxy S III General] jonny68:
Times are changing, HTC and Sony to mention just two manufacturers have set the trend, they can design a smartphone that is not only top notch under the hood but a premium design especially the HTC One, Samsung on the other hand release the S4 which has some great features (although it's debatable whether many people will actually use all these Features) but the actual phone itself is just a bigger version of our S3,this is not innovation, and if they truly wanted to blow the planet away they would have revamped the design completely with premium aluminium as well as the features they showcased.

The HTC One is up to 64GB which is certainly enough storage for most

Again this is my opinion and each to their own but that's the end for me, will hang onto my S3 for a few months then jump ship to back to HTC
[Galaxy S III General] rickoslyder:
Have you seen the device CPU/GPU/RAM? It certainly blows every other smartphone out of the water. At the end of the day, if the GS2 and GS3 with that look then why would they unnecessarily waste money on revamping a design that clearly is good enough to make sales? And I wasn't making the point that there's a lack of storage, but at least for me SD card slot and removable cover are the main two look aspects to care about.

Brutally murdering someone I met on XDA with a sharpened iPhone and some semtex butt plugs just because they asked me to using Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy S III General] jayc1980:
Dont know what amazes me more, people thinking samsung were actually going to change the shape or the fact no one has started a 'what do you want to see in tge S5' thread :D

sent from my gt19300 ltd omega edition
[Galaxy S III General] sxi200:
I prefer a phone with a removable plastic back cover, removable battery and sd card slot over a unibody design which has neither.

Other makers can design so called 'high-end' looking phones with metal and glass because they don't have those features.