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[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
mate don't forget about the latest s4 processor in the SP. SL's antutu score was just 7000 , and SP's is 16000. this is a lot.

anyways i'm confused between SP and ZL. in the end of the month will go to my uncle's shop , will check both the devices , compare the price and then will take a decision.

i think you meant the SP. Htc one x is still costlier by 2k. go for the SP.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Sorry,I meant SP. Well,I am in search of a phone for the past 1 month that suits me. I was waiting for SP to be launched.In the mean time One X and One X plus got cheaper. So I am confused now. I can get One X plus at 26k. I will be buying SP at the earliest,So i Can't expect it below 26k. Which one of these will suit me better:

My primary uses are: (descending)

1.Gaming

2.Lot of Apps usage

3.Camera

4.Good Design and looks..
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
1. one x + will suit your requirements for gaming. it has tegra 3 processor and well believe me there are specific games only meant for nvidia 3 processor.

2. RAM is same in both the phones at 1 GB so app usage will be similar in both the phones.

3. can't comment on the camera. haven't seen pics in both.

4. well this depends from person to person.

i too will buy a phone and i'm in the same confusion SP or one x + or ZL.
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
Buy the One X+ if it's available below 27k if u want performance

Buy the SP if u don't mind slightly lower performance and want much better battery life
[Xperia SP General] japjit100:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2228961

play store 4.0.25 themed black
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
1.Gaming is my first preference.But,I am not expecting very high end games.I just need games over 1gb,2gb to be played without any lag.

2.Ok.

3.I think Sony's Camera will be good,but I am not sure.

4.I absolutely love Sony SP's Design.

I am 70% with SP and 30% with One X Plus.I will be buying SP once they hit the market.And the main problem for me is I need to buy a phone within 20th of this month.
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
The One X+ is still showing at 33k+ on flipkart
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
I don't have good knowledge about processors.So I am asking this question.How does SP match the performance of One X Plus in AnTuTu and in Quadrant Benchmarks?

And How are you saying that SP's performance is lower than One X Plus's?

Yes,I need a good battery backup too.

I will be using this phone for at least 2 years.So,SP is safe to buy,Isn't it?

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Ya,But I can easily buy it from Ebay for 27k using coupons(When coupons are available).
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
U shouldn't compare benchmarks between a dual core and a quad core phone :P

Also don't make your decisions looking at synthetic benchmarks... Check out real World performances...
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
Correction One X is for 26,500/- while One X+ is priced at 29,900/-
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Yes,As I have said,I don't have good knowledge about processors.I was thinking that Benchmark results decide the performance of a phone.BTW,What differences will I see between SP and One X Plus in the real world performances?

And, Do you guys think that SP is overpriced?
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
for half an hour i'm comparing the snapdragon s4 with tegra 3.

snapdragon s4 quad eats up the tegra 3 quad in every department.

i'm too thinking that one x + will still be better than the SP.

but next confusion , if one x + then why not ZL :confused:

the main thing for me is the screen , Z|ZL screen contrast sucks. the main screen seems wahsed out. i have checked several videos.
[Xperia SP General] anjath:
Main thing with electronics is first you need to stick to a budget.then buy the best you get at that price.otherwise choosing becomes very very difficult.
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
In the same boat as you, but the screen of ZL seemed to be tad better than the Z at other than direct view. At straight viewing and i checked wallpapers ( as the homescreen is slightly grey i think thats why seems washed out) it seems to be fine, also many have mentioned that Z/ ZL has better visibility in sun.

I am not too sure about HTC. Its UI is really heavy and takes a lot of RAM IMO.

True, but difficult to maintain in the same range when you see a few hundred more than you get something better.
[Xperia SP General] anjath:
very true. just remember that competition is so intense these days. you will hardly go wrong with any of the choices. its all about preferences. take a piece of paper and write down in priority what features are important for you. then write down all the phones names at the top column wise. start ranking and finally arrive at your phone. all the best.
[Xperia SP General] Mahesh89:
Now Xperia Ion Price Slashed its MRp is Rs.21,990 now, U can check tat too :good: :highfive:
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
INR 21,490/- on flipkart

my guess is that they are probably going to launch the Xperia L around INR 25,000/-
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
all the mentioned phones are in my budget. but i don't want the screen to look bad. read my experience below.

oh so you compared both the phones :good:

here's my experience. i had an arc , my friend arc s. same wallpaper , same icons and colors were better on the arc s. even in games. i was so fed up with this.

so that's why screen's so important to me.

video from sony. this is just nonsense.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MPqpKo2hlGU#!

video from other user.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x_i9FHQjM8

xperia s screen is better than the z.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_pDID2L93o

and thanks for letting me know about the RAM. that matters a lot considering one x + has only 1 GB ram.

i will not use the phone to it's limit. normal calls , browsing , messaging , social networking and some normal games. nothing else. and for this every phone suits me and like kunwar said , spending few extra bucks can get you a better phone.

sony in desperate moves to clear out stock :D

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i think it will be around 20k. not more than that. maybe they want to clear all the stock before launching a new phone in that price range.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Still confused..Please guys I need an answer in one word: ONE X PLUS or XPERIA SP (both at same price)
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
go to the shop... handle both those devices... test them out urself and then decide...
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
I don't think a half an hour is enough to judge a phone..That's why I need some experts advice.
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
it's not available yet. you have to wait. i'm thinking of comparing the zl with one x + tomorrow at a croma store. they have every phone on display. will update my views here.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
But zl is way out of my budget..please share your views about one x plus.(mainly multitasking and camera)
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Damn - What about XS / XSL. IMO never liked the design of ion. looks like a brick to me. If XS is available anywhere at 19K then would give SL a pass this time
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
who is buying the phone u or the expert?

and who will be using the phone u or the expert?

and who will be paying for the phone u or expert?

and most importantly whom are YOU buying the phone for, u or the expert?

always buy the phone that u will be happy with... more people u ask the more "expert" advice u will get...

everyone has their own needs and everyone has different usage of the phone... whats an ideal device for you might not be ideal for me...

as per my suggestion, look at it objectively...

both HTC and Sony have record of slow updates... the One X+ was released last year after which HTC has released atleast 2-3 high end devices so HTC will be more focused on updating those.. SP is the latest released device from Sony but its not the high end model... so even though u will get updates Sony will focus on updating the Z (ZL)... so as far as updates are concerned both devices have equal likely hood of getting updates...

the One X+ has an older generation but quad core chipset... the SP has newer generation S4pro but dual core chipset... power consumption of the SP will be much better... but performance of the One X+ could be better because of all the added horse power of the two additional cores...

there are tegra specific games on play store... i dont see many qualcomm specific high end games...

multitasking on the One X was fast, never had any issues with it though it sucked battery like anything...

the SP has a bigger battery and coupled with a dual core chip it should last better than the One X+

other specs u can check here: http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4976&idPhone2=5364

i have the white HTC One X with me, i gave it to my brother since i am using the Xperia T & Z... personally i love the design of the One X... it is so light and still has a sturdy frame and fits perfectly in hand...

the SP is not yet available here in Pune... the Sony Center guys say its going to take another few weeks to be available :P so i cant comment on how the device feels in hand...
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Sorry.I was just trying to get some people's user experience.BTW this will me my first smartphone.So I am trying to be some more cautious.
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
doomlord obviously mentioned some great points. in the end it's you who have to buy the phone.

seriously the pricing is really bad for both the products :D so much confusion.

anyways , i was using 1ghz single core processor before so for me both the phones will be a very good upgrade.

and since this is your first smart phone and you already like the SP's design i'll say go for the SP. buy what you like.

you liked it , performance is more or less the same in both the phones. and believe me dual core s4 pro will be more than enough for you. now don't get confused buy the SP as soon as it's available :D
[Xperia SP General] anjath:
one x plus. no doubt about that.

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if you have finally come down to between ZL and One X+. then go for ZL. long run you ll enjoy ZL. its released recently. will have more support. One X+ was never a mass phone thanks to its ridiculous pricing during launch. ZL will also enjoy the latest OS updates for at least the next 18months. Key Lime pie highly probable.. let's hope for the best. Sony is getting most of the things right this year.

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just to add to the discussion, Xperia ION is available for as low as 18000 from some stores. i mean the original unopened ones with bill and manufacturer warranty. try to snoop around your city. heard the red ones are still lying around. finding a black one might be slightly difficult for this price.
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
the only thing left to compare is the screen. if i don't like the ZL's screen i won't buy it. simple as that. and i'm a mod at sony world website and i know about the updates :D i should say slow updates and after a year sony just forgets about the previous year flagship. happened with x10 , happened with arc , happening with xperia s.
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
If its just for screen then get the SP as the only advantage in screen is 0.4 inch. SP is 4.6 and ZL is 5. By taking just a little smaller screen you will save upward of Rs 5K. Performance wise was just reading and most people say that you dont need more than 1GB unless you are using the phone for running 10-15 apps at the same time. I doubt you would be doing that. Also SP is 1.7GHz clocked vs 1.5GHz of ZL
[Xperia SP General] Strike_Riku:
Yeah but its also quad core vs dual...
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Agree, but how many times are u going to use all 4 cores.

Its like - having a Ferrari and riding in city. Only few times in a year will u be able to ride it on highway.

The battery saver mode keeps the 2 cores on use and only "only" when pushed will activate the other cores, else your battery will drain very fast.
[Xperia SP General] randomuseresato:
Compare the benchmarks. Xperia SP scores higher than One X+ in all benchmarks and GPU performance is 3 times higher
[Xperia SP General] raghavamsc:
Xperia SP is Overpriced

From the announcement day of the XSP, it is given in several sites at a lower price than this price (27K +). Many people :highfive: might have saved several bucks for this phone, if the price is still 27K, SONY has to loose the anticipated customers like me :rolleyes:.
[Xperia SP General] randomuseresato:
Refer this table, One X+ GPU performance numbers are same as Optimus 4X HD and cpu benchmarks will be same as S3
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
just came back checking the xperia z and one x. zl and one x + both were not available.

first thing - don't make your decision looking at the demo present. i checked xperia z of the sales lady and

compared with the demo unit , huuuuge difference between the two

screen was much better , the color reproduction and blacks, camera was miles ahead from the demo unit's.

XPERIA SP WILL BE AVAILABLE FROM FIRST WEEK OF MAY

the lady from xperia there attended the training today and told me about the availability and xperia L is not far behind.

she suggested to go for the SP.

today because of me one samsung grand will not sell:D i told one customer about the grand's crap display resolution and i suggested him the SP :good: [/b] sales guy said " sir please make your purchases , don't tell other customers" i then quickly changed the topic back to the z,

mate , i don't mind the screen size. i was talking about color reproduction and contrast of the display. that's the only thing which matters to me the most.

i think i can get hold of the ZL for 32000 rupees. so difference between SP and ZL will be mere 6000 and i get a lot for that extra 6000.

lets wait for the SP launch.

yeah because SP has adreno 320 , adreno 225 was competing with tegra 3 so this was obvious. wait for tegra 4 and then it will be a fair fight.
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
maybe you are right. Two things i can think of is 2Gb RAM and IR Blaster.
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
mate s4 pro quad core :p as well. camera quality will be similar.
[Xperia SP General] xPeRiA_RaVi:
.

i have some questions about Z,ZL and SP .. actually i m planning for new handset next month , one of my friend also going to buy S3 this month so i want better then S3 in terms of battery and camera specially :D , i checked one demo unit of Z in SONY store but screen looking pale and camera is not looking better then S3. and ZL is same in terms of hardware.

while SL is looking better in terms of battery but the camera sample are too bad (same as my year old Xperia Ray) :( i want more info about SP camera.

SO which one is better to choose btw SP and ZL ( value for money specially )

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and what about performance comparison between S3(exynos processor) and SP(snapdragon S4 dual core) in real life .:confused:
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
mate read reply number 124.

anyways i think ZL is over priced considering Z is just 2k costlier :rolleyes: you get waterproof , better body. ZL should have been around 32k.

there are not much camera samples for the SP. wait for the phone launch and compare it yourself.
[Xperia SP General] xPeRiA_RaVi:
in my place i m getting ZL at the price of 34k ,and SP will be at 27,490 so i think SP is better option,but i will wait for hands on and some good review. :D
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
27490 is the official price. you can easily get it for 26k.
[Xperia SP General] Mahesh89:
Added ur comparison table in the First post, thank u :good: :angel:
[Xperia SP General] iain150:
xperia sp hdr

This is the most appropriate place I can find to post this, is there the possibility to reenable HDR video on the xperia sp, are there plans to do this?
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Checked with one of the Xperia Salesman in a Gurgaon Mall and he said SP will be available only by month-end and will come for approx 26K...

Than checked with one of a small, fancy, just at entrance mobile store at Metropolitan Mall. The bugger says it will cost around 29-30K. Why do they even open a shop when they cant even keep info of the products they are dealing in.....
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
i updated before. it'll come in 1st week of may. and seriously they just give false information to anybody.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Pre-Order Available..

Rs 25,990 [Flipkart]

Rs 25,490 [Infibeam]
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Well if Flipkart is giving at 25990 the local mobile shops would have it for Rs 24500 surely. Thats a cracker of a price for this phone IMO..But still would not pre-order, will wait for some review from 1st hand users. There isnt really much info available online, specially on the camera capability compared to the XZ/XZL

XZ/XZL have continous focussing during Video recording and also the sensor adjusts nicely between bright area and shadow areas. Not sure on the capabilites of the camera on the XSP
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
wow that's an amazing price. 24500 rupees in local stores :)

camera , i'm assuming it to be better than the xperia arc :D
[Xperia SP General] DooMLoRD:
25k now that's awesome!!!

At that price I am sure this device wi'll be a hit!
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Well might be better than Arc but I wanted to see comparison with the XZ / XZL camera. I have seen the capability of the XZ / XZL and it has impressed me.
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
lets skip the camera part for now. lets come to the screen:confused:

check the grey bar in xperia SP ( back , menu buttons ) and complete Black bar in xperia L:rolleyes:

blacks seems dark grays ?
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
For some reason cant see the pic you posted in office. Will go home and check it. Meanwhile here are two reviews which show that the SP camera has lot of noise and less details compared to Z and even N8...hmmmm. I think even the Ion / XS have better camera.

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smartphones/1299037/sony-xperia-sp-review-hands-on

http://unleashthephones.com/2013/04/07/sony-xperia-sp-review/
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Can see the pic now, and do agree. Do we have similar comparison for XZ / XZL or have you compared ?
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Another Review:

http://asia.cnet.com/product/sony-xperia-sp-46728910.htm
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
Thanks for sharing, but not really a worth review.

Like the comment on the review - " Hi, have you try the preinstalled app under setting, display and last the white balance twick for the display? Yet you claim the viewing angles bery bad? Sony LCD pixel the most sharper did you try that compare with all the midrange phone? Come with the mini apps and stamina mode to really extend the battery life you also left out. This are the must have apps in our daily phones. Sony battery have to continue charge for two weeks and the battery will last engine statt to work. Unlike as you claiming Note 2 battery 3100mah impressive in the end we bought not even live up our expectations it drain every single second if you use or dun use. "
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
yeah the camera's not the best. but like i said before i'll wait for the second lot to come. xperia z demo unit was much worse than the retail unit. all these reviews are with pre production models. so maybe the camera will be better in the retail units. i hope so.

i checked some videos of the SP. the black bar seems black only :D

there are lots of comparison videos on youtube for xperia z and zl.
[Xperia SP General] vgowtham97:
Infibeam has started selling at 25,490
[Xperia SP General] xperiasblack:
Sorry for this offtopic question .

I'm trying to port controller dualshock3 of xperia sp to other xperia device.

I want know if anyone with xperia z would try this port and ask me if work

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2228047
[Xperia SP General] Kunwar.g:
No update since 2 days, increasing my anxiety level. Still now sure if should be taking the plunge and kinda deciding to get the ion for wife and this one for self, but sceptical about the camera performance.

The only reason i am not jumping over to the ZL is cause most reviews state that 1GB RAM is more than enough for most of usage unless have many apps open at same time.
[Xperia SP General] redandwhitearmy:
This is not the case.... 1 GB ram is enough... my HTC has 1 GB RAM it was good in starting but now launcher loads for 4-6 seconds everytime when i have twitter + facebook + browser open and i press home button... this is annoying...sense is heavy launcher but this never happened before... now that my HTC is 1 n half year old... i m getting this sort of problems... there is no problem with free RAM etc.... they are same as they used to be... 2 GB RAM is good and should always be preferred to 1 GB from my personal experience with android devices. next android is near in may 5.0 or whatever the number will be.. should be future proof.

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Also use third party camera apps... they will give good quality photos as exmor RS is a good sensor... sony has ****ed up with compression.

Tell me what deal are u getting for ZL ? its not famous in my zone (west delhi) so most of vendors dont have ZL on display and even say its out of stock...
[Xperia SP General] redandwhitearmy:
I got final info if anyone is interested..... Go n pick up xperis SP at near retail store ON 22nd April .. initial price Rs. 24990 ... on this price u can bargain . Cheers

P.S. DO NOT preorder .... else u get it one week late :P

OP please change details in first post.... 27490 is no where to be seen :P
[Xperia SP General] sHanKzZz:
Xperia SP or Galaxy S3 or HTX One X+

I wanted to by a waterproof phone actually, but Sony never launched Xperia V in India (Though it is available for INR 23000 in the grey market). I dont like huge monsters, should be able to operate a phone with one hand. So my stretched budget is around 25-28k. I decided to go for the Xperia SP (~INR 26000) when it came out, but now Galaxy S3 (~INR 28000) and HTC One X+(~INR 28000) are available for a couple grand more. Galaxy S3 has better software, One X+ seems to have better hardware and build quality.

Also, there is no official word yet about the launching of Xperia L in India yet, right?

Please advice.

Thanks in advance!
[Xperia SP General] redandwhitearmy:
well i would advice against HTC .... i just see music as only advantage there... choice is B/W S3 and XSP ... i would say go for s3 as it will probably get next android... price gap is huge BTW ... SP is for Rs. 24990 .. which is 3.5k cheaper than s3... SP is faster , better battery (270 mah more) , it will probably get 4.2.2 beyond that cant say... but surely it will have awesome dev support here...
[Xperia SP General] jangiramit:
Xperia SP on Mobile store

Xperia SP now available on Mobile store for 25990, in stock.

i cant post link now. but u can see on Mobile store website.
[Xperia SP General] sHanKzZz:
24990? cheapest iv seen is 25990. though this close it doesnt seem right to base the decision on price alone... theres something about an S3 which makes me not wanna buy it, i was more bent towards One X+, but thats out of the picture now... SP it is... (what i wouldnt do to get an Xperia V though, specially now that the Sleep of Death issue has been officially resolved)

And are you sure about The Mobile Store? Yes its showing on the site, but if you look at it carefully, it shows "Out of Stock" before it changes to "Quantity"... Seems unlikely that the mobile store will get it before any of the other bigwigs... plus no mention of freebies there, like the case or microSD card...
[Xperia SP General] pkhavare:
stores

will it be available in sony world? or croma or reliance digital?
[Xperia SP General] slimshaddy.:
i too was confused with one x + but now i have decided SP. one x + and SP's performance is similar not too much difference.