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[Galaxy S 4 General] rkial:
HTC did more than blinkfeed. The design, the UI, the camera, the speakers, the dual membrane mics.

HTC built it from scratch. I know its hard to do the same when Samsung are moving from S3 and Note 2... both were very good.. they were never going for a complete overhaul... but a better design or better build material.. updating UI, improving their speaker.. all that wouldve been far more useful that some of the software additions S4 has.

To each their own... but I used the S4 and I honestly dont see any use for most of their new features. Its my friends S4 and he has already disabled most of those.

He loves it though.. its a very very good phone.. but its the least you would expect from Samsung after the S3.

There wasnt anything new/surprising.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
Yes it does. Bundled charger comes with 2.0A output. It practically charges battery much faster.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
Total charge time is less than two hours. Looks impressive
[Galaxy S 4 General] gchindi:
Could be more of 4.2.2 goodness rather than samsung's effort...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Triad007:
I've gotten the s4, it gets hot though. Browsing a while on 3g and it gets hot, if I need to take a call around the same time it's annoying as the heat is generally around the top area touching the ears.

Is this normal ?

Gets way hotter while charging
[Galaxy S 4 General] rkadve:
Same here.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tarun.nair:
[MENTION=3877923]bala_gamer[/MENTION] My CPU temperature is showing as 61 degrees on System Tuner. Isn't that too hot? Should I go in for an exchange? :confused::(

Is this what I should be looking at?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jithendra194:
I'm experiencing a little bug in gallery...I just can't ciew pics in full screen..I mean. .I can't make the top action bar and the bottom bar which views little pics of our pictures disappear. .:(..no matter how many times I tap the screen..it just wouldn't go..I even tried clearing the data of gallery..it didn't work as well...any solutions?..yesterday it was fine but dunno what happened now..
[Galaxy S 4 General] rakeshishere:
You mean 0 to 100? That's amazing :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 4 General] hello_dbm:
Link please
[Galaxy S 4 General] souvik101990:
Curious to know how much media server battery usage is actually normal?
[Galaxy S 4 General] jaidev.s:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2262110

Sent from my GT-I9300 with a BIG :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] rl421403:
My S4 comes with free screen protector. Didn't you get it with yours?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vdhawwan:
Ui improvement is not innovation. Its the same basic thing but in a different design.

I don't care much for air gesture either but smart scroll is useful for me.

Anyway that is innovative whether you use it or not, u gotya admit the features are pretty darn amazing use of the hardware.

Talking about the so called innovation of htc. Please note-

Aluminium Unibody. Has been used before. Not innovation.

Dual membrane mic. Made by third party for Nokia. Not innovation. Rather Htc has been ordered by court to stop using it.

Front facing dual speakers. Sony Ericsson used it much before the smartphone scene. So not innovation either.

Ultra pixel camera. Innovation. I agree.

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Don't bother. It doesn't work.
[Galaxy S 4 General] android_master:
Oh My God..what is wrong with this phone..dude i will advice you to please go to service centre..almost every second phone S4 is faulty
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
Ah, no it isn't, samsung uses charger with high power and hence the reason.

If you are talking about the cpu temperature then it's perfectly all right. Cpu temp often touches that margin even with my s3 in the past.

I'll try to find the thermal throttle limit today
[Galaxy S 4 General] aamitabh28:
Snapdragon version has cm 10.1 support already by steve kondik. Wonder what happens to the octa
[Galaxy S 4 General] Harsha Raj:
And I think battery temperature should not go beyond say 55c?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vinandy:
Me too waiting for this to arrive in INDIA, its available for worldwide shipping but at 12$ additional cost :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
you are right, but the screen shot shows the cpu temp, so no need to bother:)

@ all here is the temperature limit defined in the kernel source for the cpu ;)

#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_EXYNOS_IKS_CPUFREQ
static struct exynos_tmu_platform_data exynos5_tmu_data = {
.trigger_levels[0] = 90,
.trigger_levels[1] = 95,
.trigger_levels[2] = 110,
.trigger_levels[3] = 115,
.boost_trigger_levels[0] = 100,
.boost_trigger_levels[1] = 105,
.boost_trigger_levels[2] = 110,
.boost_trigger_levels[3] = 115,
.trigger_level0_en = 1,
.trigger_level1_en = 1,
.trigger_level2_en = 1,
.trigger_level3_en = 1,
.gain = 5,
.reference_voltage = 16,
.noise_cancel_mode = 4,
.cal_type = TYPE_ONE_POINT_TRIMMING,
.efuse_value = 55,
.freq_tab[0] = {
.freq_clip_max = 1400 * 1000,
.temp_level = 90,
},
.freq_tab[1] = {
.freq_clip_max = 1000 * 1000,
.temp_level = 95,
},
.freq_tab[2] = {
.freq_clip_max = 600 * 1000,
.temp_level = 100,
},
.boost_freq_tab[0] = {
.freq_clip_max = 1400 * 1000,
.temp_level = 100,
},
.boost_freq_tab[1] = {
.freq_clip_max = 800 * 1000,
.temp_level = 105,
},
.boost_freq_tab[2] = {
.freq_clip_max = 800 * 1000,
.temp_level = 105,
},
.size[THERMAL_TRIP_ACTIVE] = 1,
.size[THERMAL_TRIP_PASSIVE] = 2,
.freq_tab_count = 3,
.type = SOC_ARCH_EXYNOS5,
};

looks like under loads the internal cpu temp can reach around 90c hence the trigger level 0 is set at 90. This should also been the reason for us feeling the heat in our hands, but considering the thermal limit maintained the temperature should be normal. Also this is much better than the thermal throttle limit for snapdragon s4 pro.
[Galaxy S 4 General] tarun.nair:
Thanks Bala. Relieved :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Rahulrulez:
How is MDK bala? Did you see any major changes so far?
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
yea, as mentioned before red pixel glow is fixed, memory usage is low, few new wallpapers, reduced heat during charging. misc i havent noted any
[Galaxy S 4 General] ccpzcp:
please tell me how call quality compared to galaxy s3 anyone plz reply
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
havent turned on any equalizer settings for calls yet, its lounder than s3 cant talk about quality as i cant compare now with s3
[Galaxy S 4 General] godmakarand:
charging time

It has a 2amp charger. so theoretically it should take half time to charge.
[Galaxy S 4 General] streetw1se:
Ok, so after playing around with the phone for almost a couple of days now, I can gladly say that it's WORTH IT. Really happy with the phone overall; feels good in the hand, light, great full hd screen (decent sunlight visibility, and smearing issue is hardly a problem for me tbh, people are just too whiny sometimes), feels really snappy (fast boot time is a plus), pretty good camera - still learning all the modes but from what i have used i liked Drama the best- dual shot mode is pretty handy too, yeah sure the gestures and stuff is a gimmick but it works well for me, surprised at how well the battery has lasted on a single charge as well - almost 13 hours on 3g with a few phone calls, games, IMing, browsing, taking pictures etc.. way better than my s2. Got an OTA update yesterday of about 54mb which added a couple of wallpapers, haven't seen any other noticeable changes even though i'm assuming there are some.
[Galaxy S 4 General] vdhawwan:
Heyy bala, any update on the root of MDK update?? I ahve been searching many threads but have got lost following links after links..

Would really appreciate some clear information on the status of the root.. and if it has been rooted then can you point me to the correct thread which gives the method and files..!!

PS Have already tried Cofface Root.. both by New Method and Old.. No root..!!:crying:

I would really appreciate your help..!!

Update:

If this method does work for the MDK... then please could you tell me the process of using the boot.img.tar file to root..
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
this method does roots the mobile but beware

rooting with this method just flashes a older kernel and brings back the older issues
[Galaxy S 4 General] vdhawwan:
Thanks man.. Then I will wait for a better root..!!!!

BTW After upgrade of my device the battery life has increased significantly..!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] safepacket:
Folks with s4 not sure you guys read this news or not but check this out

Samsung to boost performance of Galaxy S4 by 10% with software update - http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-to-boost-performance-of-galaxy-s4-202912/
[Galaxy S 4 General] vinandy:
I haven't received any update till now :/
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
Hi wanted to knw which email app are u using for your SG4

I have always used the gmail app but i always had an issue while sending images every now I have to rely on third party app like "reduce photo" for lowering the quality of images

I tried the stock app but feel its too sluggish

Plz share your experiences
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I'm using the gmail app and it works great, never had issues even with sending pics, though i usually use dropbox for synching or sharing pics
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
But what if u want send pics in low resolution dont u think its pain to every now an then to share links or use third party apps for reducing the photo size

I think gmail app needs an inbuilt photo compressing feature for mailing
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
you can just open the dropbox app, use the share feature and just send that url to whomesover you want to send that pic

yeah any extra features are always welcome :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
What happens when u click n wanna

Send immediately then whwt will u do :p:confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
Just set the camera to take low resolution pics
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
Lol I knew that but wht I need the high resolution image too

Basically Wht gmail needs is a inbuilt image compressing feature:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
Yeah but they dont have it so I was just giving you other options
[Galaxy S 4 General] jonam_mafia:
Me using k-9 Mail.
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
Yeah k-9 is also a good mail client never used it but I have read good reviews about it
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
My s4 jus rebooted by itself wht cld b the reason guyzz it happened the moment I clicked on the camera button :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
Exactly same thing happened to my cell today morning
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Still dont know y does the camera app takes so much time to open huhhh...:mad:
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
Ya I can notice lot of lag today while using the camera may be a restart should help

Btw got my side view cover today
[Galaxy S 4 General] nickporwal:
Guys is it worth to take s4 as of now? Since there are heating issues. Is it that bad or should i wait for next batches? I am thinking to take htc one but its getting delayed
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Can sum1 pls check and let us know if the camera app got any update tdy which got updated by itself .thmx
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I've used S3 in past and even it had heating issues, i've used Lumia 920 even it had heating issues, i'm currently using iphone 5 and S4 both gets hot if i load some heavy games or resource intensive apps like sygic, it is normal as all CPU emit heat and since S4 has 8 core cpu even it gets heated, so i think it's normal and you will probably have same issue even with HTC
[Galaxy S 4 General] gkhushal:
Anyone who is ready to sell there s4 for 25-28k I am ready to buy :cool::D:D:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Strange.no heating issues at all for me since the day I bought one but batt is big let down ..switched on my phone at 10.30 am and now its 3 pm only 45 percent if juice left huhhh...
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
I've a 28 days used lumia 920 white no scratches or no usage marks, if you want it for 28K let me know :D
[Galaxy S 4 General] azeter:
Rather buy a brand new s3 for dat price coz it still rocks!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] nickporwal:
So if i dont care about the design part, is it fine to take S4 instead of HTC one?
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
S4 has better specs so i would suggest to go for S4 also as far as india is concerned, Samsung mobiles have better resale value as well when compared to HTC
[Galaxy S 4 General] shamps:
Mine also. While using camera.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kannanX10:
I went to buy a s4 .....after handling 2 demo devices for more than 40 minutes with latest update installed on them I decided to skip the s4.....something hasn't changed from s3 still laggy at times not even as smooth as my note 2.....this is my personal opinion
[Galaxy S 4 General] rakeshishere:
Used one of my colleague's S4 at work today for first time and here's my first impressions.

- Phone is very light and Samsung has kept this tradition coz even my S2 doesn't add any bulk while holding it.

- Screen is bloody amazing and I can notice the difference in naked eyes as I had Note 2 besides it to compare & S4 screen was miles ahead. If you're buying this phone this is one of the major factor as I would be seeing that more than the body of the phone.

- Camera quality did not impress me but I didn't use it extensively to test it and it could be because of lighting conditions as well.

- Black Mist variant is fingerprint magnet and back panel is glossy which gives it cheap feeling but after slapping a case this wouldn't bother much.

- Definitely looks better than S3 as I hated that hyperglaze finish on the S III which made it like a cheap huawei phone.
[Galaxy S 4 General] shivsharat:
You are lucky... I dint get anything free :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
Just got my sview coverView attachment 1934501
[Galaxy S 4 General] gkhushal:
I have s3 bought it 8 months back
[Galaxy S 4 General] sachinaik:
Guys I've setup watchon successfully for :

1. My onkyo home theatre

2. Sammy blue ray player

3. Tata sky hd+

4. Sammy tv

All works fine :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] nabilsilva:
Guy ive read on some forums n this also about the microsd card causing heating. Can any1 explain this to me? n also about 18% of battery use is shown as mediaserver, whats dat?
[Galaxy S 4 General] mithun46:
Check dish tru HD please ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
[MENTION=3877923]bala_gamer[/MENTION] Did you try compiling the Samsung source drop yet? Wondering if it compiles cleanly.

I'm just setting up the dev environment (which somehow I foobarred yesterday night). Will give it a try tonight.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
not yet mate :) having some works( i still havent finished reading your pm fully yet :D). by the way im trying to repack the stock kernel... its annoying to wait for root for the latest mdk firmware
[Galaxy S 4 General] sachinaik:
Yes Dish is present.
[Galaxy S 4 General] mithun46:
yes!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] saj2001ind:
Guys anyone pls tell me how to configure air tel digital tv hd for watch on?
[Galaxy S 4 General] souvik101990:
Just got the s cover. Really cool a gadget. ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] Harsha Raj:
Maybe someone should make a guide for this. The watchON thingy has been asked already many times.
[Galaxy S 4 General] fazlerocks:
Too costly in India. It is one of the costliest Android phone here. :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] rakeshishere:
HTC one is more costly than S4 & manufacturers have realized consumers are willing to throw money at them for whatever they come up with & hence the insane pricing. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] fazlerocks:
Absolutely. It is like cheating Indian consumers. :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 General] nickporwal:
In countries outside india phones are way cheaper. Its just in asian and specifically India prices are way high and unreasonable. Samsung should atleast give in less price since they have the goddamn factory in India itself. I have heard that Samsung is going to start the production of s4 here very soon.
[Galaxy S 4 General] jaidev.s:
Rooting is impossible with new updated kernels ,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2263788
[Galaxy S 4 General] rcarlossgs:
Have bought the S4 couple of days back and liked it...had no issues for a day. .but the new firmware update killed it with smearing and improper contrast and brightness

One observation though. ..... was reading something in an app. .. and straight looking at the phone shows a yellowish background. .. but phone at a slight angle shows it as pure white. ..eg is the xda app

Is this unique or do you guys also see this? Or...is my screen gauRd acting this way?

Before you guys ask... display mode is adaptive and brightness is set to auto... but the same issue at full brightNess as well
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Information about Exynos Octa, and some are xda devs;)

http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=61767&page=15
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
Dunno what Samsung´s point is. They have to release the kernel sources anyways and you can just compile a new kernel without enabling that option :-/
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
That's what Andrei too said

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Nebuchendnezzar is our Andrei over there
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
So now we´ll all be waiting to for Samsung to publish newer kernel sources, just like we wait for newer ROMs :eek:

For example, the newer firmware versions obviously have some kernel level changes. But there´s no source for that yet -- Update 1 or whatever.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
May be yes, but who knows we still have an exploit for root, someone can use it
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Yeah I know, might give some useful information in future:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
The exploit will have to override the kernel-level protection because simply being able to install / inject SU is not enough anymore. I don´t see much merit in that -- it´d be much cleaner to disable the config option and recompile with a modified initramfs. Assuming of course Samsung releases kernel sources in a timely fashion, they do have a decent track record of doing so (so far).

Edit: Do you have a stock MDE or MDK boot.img handy or a link to it?

Edit 2: The Update 1 sources are now available at opensource.samsung.com :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] Hotzigetty:
Where exactly? It's more expensive in Europe, especially with vat and all added in. Unless you're referring to carrier subsidised prices, which are on contract.

Sent from Neptune
[Galaxy S 4 General] forumhookersdotcom:
How about the heating issue ?
[Galaxy S 4 General] shivsharat:
Even I have tata sky, but the mute volume and menu buttons don't work :(

It's still good though
[Galaxy S 4 General] rajarshi10:
Guys do I go for the S4? All these issues & replacements are hovering over my mind. I can't decide. Please help out :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
most of the issues are software related if you are still afraid of the issues I'd suggest you to wait for a month so that you can get a device with all the updated stuffs out of the box
[Galaxy S 4 General] shivsharat:
Hey guys.. I have been using the s view cover from day one... Just one thing I noticed and wanted to share..

Its better if you remove the option to auto unlock on opening the flap. Because having that option on is affecting the screen brightness everytime you open the flap and drains your battery a little more..

So being battery conservative..
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
finished flashing a custom kernel along with root and changed the dpi to 320, wow!! what to say... im simply stumped with screen quality @ 320 dpi and the amount of work samsung has put in, now almost all stock apps are compatible with multi dpi, only the dialer and camera is a bit misaligned..... and i will be fixing it soon
[Galaxy S 4 General] razer1224:
lol Bala...Hey Talking About Custom kernels...

Do you guys wany custom kernels by me..

i need your support guys

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Can someone point out the Latest Update by Samsung.. I really do not Anything as i am from htc
[Galaxy S 4 General] shamps:
Looking forward to it!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] brar.arsh:
Which kernel? I wanna go along with you this time.. :P
[Galaxy S 4 General] aamitabh28:
Adam kernel
[Galaxy S 4 General] sssn7000:
seriously!!!

one of the key feature of selling this phone is the full hd 441 dpi and you changed it to 320?
[Galaxy S 4 General] funtoosh:
It just makes all the apps compatible a lot of apps don't work on S4 due to high DPI
[Galaxy S 4 General] brar.arsh:
Anybody has OTA zip for MDK update??

Actually I was rooted and update didnt come to my phone..

There is full FW at below link but it's massive 1700MB.. Looking for OTA..

http://www.hotfile.com/dl/210257168/9d0b707/I9500XXUAMDK_I9500ODDAMDK_INU.zip.html
[Galaxy S 4 General] volcomguyaz:
No phones for india
[Galaxy S 4 General] jaidev.s:
Hope someone can upload mdk update on Google drive and share it
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
you are talking about ppi and im talking about dpi, both are different

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its there in osrc mate.

am working on few mods today :)

its adam kernel from wanam
[Galaxy S 4 General] nani67:
hello bala..

i have just given my s3 to sister and now planning to get a new phone..

can you please tell me how much did u pay for s4, and should i go for it or do u have any other options that i have to look at..
[Galaxy S 4 General] forumhookersdotcom:
Think twice before getting s4 , check review and get it and as it is not an major upgrade don't spend money on s4 . Instead wait and get HTC one.

Just check every developer review on the web not just ordinary fans review all they guide you is to get the phone as they did.
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
Default Dpi is 480(on s4, 1080p display) , ppi(pixels per inch) and dpi(dots per inch) are 2 different terms, he decreased resolution to 1280x720 which resulted in a dpi of 320 and a ppi of 294 (on 4.99" display), which would decrease load on gpu and some applications have native resolution of 720p so it maybe useful
[Galaxy S 4 General] sachinaik:
Map mute button of set top box to AV Reciever's mute button. Then u r good to go.

Menu button opens Organizer menu for me. Even m trying to remap it or look to have a new button for it somehow...
[Galaxy S 4 General] seltaeb:
I compiled a rooted kernel yesterday night as well -- but fscking pre-compiled exfat modules just don't work! I see that Wanam's kernel doesn't support exfat too, probably for the same reason. This is going to be a problem :(

Trying to experiment with different toolchains now to get them working.
[Galaxy S 4 General] rkial:
Its available for 39.5 on next.co.in if anyone is interested.
[Galaxy S 4 General] razer1224:
Guys How to Flash the .tar.md5 Which is 1.7GB>?
[Galaxy S 4 General] vdhawwan:
For all those who want root after the MDK Update.. Please go to the following link:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41042903&postcount=20
[Galaxy S 4 General] jaidev.s:
Use Odin and select PDA for tar
[Galaxy S 4 General] dheerpat:
hi

which is the option to select tata sky(without hd) services..i have updated latest firmware..still no india in choicr:confused:
[Galaxy S 4 General] vd1900:
Try sky +
[Galaxy S 4 General] hello_dbm:
How did you do it, please guide me.
[Galaxy S 4 General] bala_gamer:
39 is the price i paid.. if you are planning to get a new one then s4 is preferred, but i would suggest you to wait for 2 or more weeks so that you and get newer batches of s4 with updated firmware out of the box. if you know about flashing /rooting and stuffs then you can get it anytime.

wow!! lol where did you get these explanation?? i neither decreased the resolution nor the ppi value it sticks to 440+ppi. dpi is not related to ppi. reducing the dpi value gives more screen space with tiny letters.(it gives an illusion of using the screen in higher resolution)

yeah he too dosent have exfat, personally im not going to use exfat anytime soon( its incredibly time consuming to transfer all data from my card back n forth lol)