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[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
So far I think Sense 5 looks pretty good. The gallery looks good. But one thing for certain, their IR REMOTE CONTROL APP is much better than the Samsung one. I hope we can import the APK and get it functional because the Samsung IR REMOTE CONTROL just does volume, channel and power.

The speakers on the HTC are actually better too.

I've actually become kind of torn between both phones now. I might have to test drive them.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
I can't find information on Samsung's TV app, does anyone have any details on it? I only saw it in use once and it only had volume, channel and power. That was it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shan89:
Lol GO GO HAMDIR ! :P

Anyway nice seeing you here correcting miss-infos what some ppl have posted.

@Sammy guys.

I hope you guys aint *mad* on us being here, we realize it's samsung forum but after all WE ARE ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY ( ANDROID )

And each YEAR we are going FAR FAR from apple and leaving it into dust ( mainly speaking about all the endless possibilities what we have on android )
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
The speakers are goood.. boomsound is the feature I found good .. but beauty in a phone will get old.. functionality always wins at the end of the day.. and thats why I find s4 better..

And I kind of hate using the idea of ir basters on both phones.. its an old tech.. oh well, if they can add it..then why not.. though I seriously might not use it in the end..

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[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I am sure you haven't seen this:

[YOUTUBE]gX9qDOkaqHM[/YOUTUBE]

As for speakers in HTC One, they are loud. But how is the audio quality? I haven't seen any in-depth analysis for HTC One audio quality. I am not an audiophile, but I am definitely interested in good quality audio. Interested in good quality through earphones, not interested in loud noise from the speakers. That looks cheap.
[Galaxy S 4 General] shashivydyula:
Features on HTC one and S4 are great, it depends on individual's choice. Both have excellent features of their own. It depends on us... What we like to choose.
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
You won't find any (maybe a few exceptions) Samsung fans attacking or name-calling as you see often in HTC forums. I have been in XZ/HO forums a lot. And I have noticed that to get brownie points in HTC forums, you have to start and end a post with samdung-samcrap-sameseung. Or some cute jokes about plastic, crapwiz etc.,

I don't think anyone would mention HTC here as "high tech crap".

No we ain't mad at all. You are more than welcome to come and post anything about HTC One or GS4 if you like. It's a forum for discussion.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
Humm, picture looks blurry. Wait a minute... Was this taken with your HTC One?
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
lol - i had to laugh at "samcrap"

those people are small in number, but large in number of posts lol
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
what d'ya know?

theres a troll right here!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kremata:
and a liar here
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
stop man, youre going to hurt my feelings :(
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
If you noticed, I didn't say a word or pass any judgment. I handed them off to you. ;) God knows you killed yourself working on the graphics with the Teg3 One X and I'm sure you'll be able to do something similar with S-600. PowerVR 543 is a beast and does especially well on-screen where Adreno 320's been struggling. One could guess that with 544 (543+DirectX) in Octa clocked at 533MHz (nearly three times Apple’s implementation) and with DDR3 memory it's highly likely it will perform as well or better than Adreno 320. Much like resolution impacted Adreno on-screen, the wild card is how well PowerVR handles it. Everyone expected Samsung to use Mali 604 in Octa and it would have been cheaper and easier. There's got to be a reason they picked now to move to PowerVR. Debating and speculating (like I just did ;) ) is fun but nothing will be known for sure until it's benchmarked and used in the real world. That pretty much applies to Octa too.

Here's what Anandtech said about Adreno 320 on the DNA which would also apply to the One (and probably the S-600 SGS4 too).

"The 3D graphics department is handled by the Adreno 320 GPU. The first test we ran was NenaMark 2, but just like its competitors the HTC DROID DNA managed to hit the 60fps limit of the screen, rendering the results moot. GLBenchmark let us get a better idea of the graphics power of the DROID DNA - the smartphone got the highest score of any smartphone we have tested so far. Given that its screen resolution is much higher than its competitors, though it's can't compete as successfully in on-screen tests. The HTC DROID DNA is a stunning performer and while it doesn't have the graphics power advantage to fully compensate for it vastly higher screen resolution that shouldn't be an issue in most of the real-life scenarios. "​

Here's an interesting read that provides a lot of detail on PowerVR 544 if anyone's interested.

http://withimagination.imgtec.com/i...4mp-a-modern-gpu-for-todays-leading-platforms
[Galaxy S 4 General] i9100g user:
I agree with you ,I have been to those forums too,noticed that many times :sly:

sent fromXperia sT21i

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
It's Peel as used on the Note 10.1 with the addition of pulling in content info from Netflix and Hulu. It's really pretty well done and the list of devices it can control is pretty impressive. I have Google TVs and RF Logitech remotes but find myself using Peel because it makes finding content so much cleaner and easier. I scoffed at IR on a mobile device until I started playing with it. I think you guys will be surprised.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DesertHawk:
I wish someone can help me with my decision... HTC One or GS4
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
looks nice - but do you have to tell it which device you want to control if you switch rooms?

like in the pic above, youve left the bedroom and gone down to kitchen - you were using it in the bedroom.

do you need to select that menu and then hit kitchen now?
[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
Thanks man, that's awesome. I'm leaning more towards the SGS4 because of the battery and SD Card removal. But the TV apps look completely on par with each other. I hope someone does a comparison of these apps somewhere.
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Well said. I mean this with no bias or disrespect, but a large number of posters that behave as you described identify themselves as ASEAN. So there may be some “home town” pride or country-based rivalries going on outside the just comparing two devices.

The One’s a great device whether people choose the SGS4 over it or not. It’s probably HTC’s best effort in years. I think people that go on baseless one-sided tangents lose sight of one important thing. They lose all credibility (accept with fellow one-sided ranters who thank their posts) and no one takes their points seriously and some of what they have to say might have value.

Here’s a great example from the One forum. I don’t care whether you’re an HTC devotee or Samsung-lover stuff like this is just plain wrong. It kind of scares me that anyone could have that much of a connection or a attachment to a company or its product to rail on its competitor that vehemently. And there’s no need to discuss the video. File it under “don’t let this happen to you;” at least if you want to be taken seriously. ;)

[YOUTUBE]i8UY44rRTB8[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
From your signature i see that you have a note 2, well if you still have it then you dont really need the S IV and should try something different. Go HTC One.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
Lol.. the person actually who uploaded it on youtube even started a thread on 'why you shouldnt buy samsung.'. and the thread also had some fellow fanboys even mocking a xda member who said that it was stupid..

Here is the link..

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2196331

There are tons of posts almost like this everyday moaning why samsung markets their own products and why they shouldnt show off their features.. I just dont realize why they dont understand that samsungs first and main competitor is the iphone.. and they have to do a lot better and much more than the incredible innovations and functionalities they bring to beat it..
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
How would it know I've moved from the kitchen to the bedroom and that it needs to control a different set of device if I don't tell it? You only set your location once and need to change it only if you're using additional sets of devices somewhere else and move to that room. Logitech's high-end remotes work the same way. They can control an infinite number of devices but you still have to tell them which ones at any given time. It would be cool if A/V equipment wasn’t passive so that when you go from room-to-room remotes could identify what they need to control though.

I'd bet that HTC uses a white-labled version of Peel too so One owners can expect something very similar.
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I did watch the video and i swear i could not stop laughing, it was amazingly hilarious. But on a serious note, it is really sad that people are that much stupid. Yes this is absolutely stupid. Either he is young and immature which would be understandable, or he is a grown man that has some serious issues.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Yea that's what I meant, if it could actively detect which device it should be controlling. Hard to implement tho I guess.

Didn't specifically mean the location!
[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
No matter what anyone thinks of HTC, Sony, LG or Motorola you should wish them success. Samsung owning the market gives them no incentive to innovate. Look what they've done to Apple when Apple started to take their market leading position for granted. LG and HTC are being very aggressive and the X Phone from Motorola should be a "wow" device too. An Android world so heavilly dominated by a single vendor would be a very scary place.
[Galaxy S 4 General] SlimJ87D:
Very well said. FANBOYS are people that band together to avoid having buyers remorse. They have a narrow vision and don't think of things outside of the box or don't question their ow argument before they type it out.

Everything Samsung is showing off or marketing is mainly aimed at the iPhone to SHOW exactly what the iPhone can't do and wont' eb able to do for a long time from now.

The thing that annoys me the most of any fanboy on any side is that they always state what they do with their phones and why features of another phone are a gimmick. But they don't consider that what they do with their phone doesn't necessarily translate to what others do with their phones and maybe those features are better suited for them.

I think HTC did a very good job with their design and truth is I hope the HTC ONE sells brilliantly well because someone has to set a bar in certain areas for others to achieve.

If Samsung didn't come out with all these awesome software features, HTC wouldn't have anything to strive for to improve their software and sensors. If HTC didn't have this beautiful design, then Samsung wouldn't have anything to strive for.

Same thing with iPhone and above.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
It would indeed.. and having no incentives when they take that their products would sell however they go about it, has made companies just literally innovate nothing at all.. prime examples are iphone . Even nokia was being stubborn and happy when people bought their devices even if they had their outdated symbians and took everything for granted.. they are just a shadow of their former selves..

Even if I want htc and sony to badly come up as they do really have the potential to do so and that would only push samsung to innovate and do better, trolling and moaning in the htc xda thread wont help htc or their sales...

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[Galaxy S 4 General] BarryH_GEG:
Or Samsung, LG, Sony, or Motorola's. ;)

We on XDA can go on for pages about minute differences between displays, color temperature, brightness, contrast, and the like. I'd guess about 1/4 to 1/3 of my friends with iPhones are using them with cracked displays. We all know SAMOLED can throw a shoe every once in a while leading to a percentage of devices being wildly biased to a specific color temperature. I have friends with displays that are green, purple, blue, and yellow and I don't mean a sublte "tint." Their fine with them. So, to your excellent point, with those folks as the "typical consumer," the difference between Octa and S-600, Adreno and PowerVR, 4-8-13MP cameras, and Zoe vs.Drama Shot goes right over their heads. And us battling to the death over it isn't going to help or hurt anyone's sales. It is fun though. ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
I absolutely agree. I would go even further and say that i don't want the iphone to disappear and be forgotten, i love the competition.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DesertHawk:
Just got rid of my Note II. Because im stuck between HTC and Samsung... Those A15's and PowerVR is a winner for me... But I love Sense... But 4.7 is a little too small
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Well i don't know man, i also was torn between the 2 but chose S IV. If you can, buy both :p
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
I remember few years back 3.5 inch was considered big!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Chillz88:
It is.. the reason is that we have a lot of choices..

and that we have tech that not only goes in one direction ( like increasing ppis, increasing screen size) but different types of tech like amoleds vs lcds, different cpus, different gpus all in the same platform.. that sure does count to a whole lot to talk about..

I frankly dont see why anyone would even like the iphone. But maybe I m just too blunt or just dont like the monotonous way the iphone goes and may have been to much accustomed to android ways... or maybe iphones attract or serve people who doesnt want that much of a change..

But if iphones werent present, samsung might not even have been the way they are now..

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[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Damn beat me to it!
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
OT:

Found it in the Verge, Google to unify chat under Babble

Source: http://www.geek.com/articles/mobile/google-expected-to-unify-chat-under-the-name-babble-20130318/

About time!
[Galaxy S 4 General] hamdir:
Adreno 320 doesn't look so resolution impacted in the videos we showed, it was troubled on the Nexus 4 due to throttling slashing half its speed (for other non GPU reasons, protecting the glass back) so like shan89 told you we've also confirmed no throttling under stress unlike the nexus 4, it is speed enhanced over the DNA's 1st gen version, regardless of the benchmark, its clear comparing both devices on same games, so we are talking real world

the reason im being assertive is that if you followed my concerns over s600 i was not happy about the GPU in s600 and i was further disappointed with the reduced target bench results on the HTC One, further concerned when i saw the main heavy weight games running average on the Droid DNA/Z, however the HTC One out of box early firmware performance in those game play videos was very surprising and it's based on the MC4 video in specific that we are basing our theories, one of the heaviest games today running flawless

and why did they pick power VR over mali? easy "straight iOS ports" and the marketing push of an "iPhone GPU" and holding off Mali658 till the next flagship ;)

anyway ill hold off this discussion now until we have confirmation of GPU clocks on the exynos, I still fear they are hard to achieve, it's not like this chipset is thermally relaxed for such stable clocks on 3x cores

final assumption would be, they wouldn't want to offshoot their s600 version by a long margin, so expect 41-45fps
[Galaxy S 4 General] :
[These are my views, and not necessarily correct]

I was looking at latest HTC One commercial:

http://vimeo.com/62061452

I liked the commercial in terms of graphics used or overall feel. But I then started to think how it would appeal to normal consumers.

Apart from showing metal construction, I don't think rest of the commercial does anything. It's all snazzy action shots and animations. But, it's not driving any particular point to engage the customer on the product. As a normal guy who might not know much about the product, what do I learn from here?

I know I will get metal construction. It shows something about camera, speakers, and some names come-up towards the end. Does it show anything to explain about Blinkfeed/Zoe/Boom Sound?

From the name, I can say that Boom sound means good speakers. Ok, good. But, I get nothing about rest of the 2 names.

Compare these with the names Samsung gives for their features? dual camera / eraser / watchon / chaton / multiwindow smart pause etc., The names are such that it won't be difficult to explain the function.

Compared to the above HTC commercial, check this Note commercial:

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Check how it shows a lot about the device without rushing the viewer. I feel that it actually would get the attention of the viewer (obviously not all, but a big proportion).

This is declared as the most effective Ad of Q1 2012:

http://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20120402005619/en/Samsung-Debuts-Effective-Ad-Q1-Ace-Metrix

Here's an article about 72andSunny, the agency behind the latest Samsung commercials including #thenextbigthing

http://adage.com/article/special-report-agency-alist-2013/72andsunny-ad-age-s-agency-year/239395/

There is a reason why "dude, you're a barista" literally created ripples in the Apple camp.

HTC won't gain anything with #thenextbigflop tweet. They would really need a much better strategy. They should base their strategy on their strengths, not try to attack a product just after it's launch. It won't give them anything. They need to do much better than that.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jubei1:
HTC One is a nice phone but HTC as a company is doomed. They abandoned their strength wich was a range of devices in various price ranges in order to compete at the high end wich is a cutthroat business with 2 competitors with much more money for marketing than HTC has. Now ZTE and the other chinese have taken over the low end while Sony is slowly taking over the middle range.

HTC One wont save them, it would need to have iPhone levels of sales in order to do that and thats highly unlikely given HTCs lack of marketing funding. They will continue bleeding money in the upcoming quarters and either restructure into a smaller company or jump into bed with Microsoft like Nokia has
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
Definitely don't think they're doomed.

Hopefully not anyway, they deserve a chance to sort themselves out after the One.

With regards to the ad, I like it, it's intriguing. Who knows what everyone else will think though, they're the ones that matter!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Jubei1:
If their strategy to come back is competing at the high end then they are doomed. They have no profitability, they only have like 1,8 billion in cash and their assets vs liability ratio is not that great either. Samsung spent a billion on marketing alone last year

They need to start competing in the markets Apple and Samsung dont care about. Thats where the money is for the smaller companies
[Galaxy S 4 General] barondebxl:
Because of this, i encourage everyone to read this

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/18/apples-iphone-entry-level/
[Galaxy S 4 General] Iuade:
I don't wan't to risk another ONEV adventure..

HI!

When I decided to upgrade my LG Optimus one, the best phone from Koodo was the HTC One V. So, I got it one afternoon, and it died the next morning, just being in my pocket. That was a friday, and I had no time to return to the store, so I put the SIM card in my Optimus for the week-end.

The next week, I went to the store, they tried everything to restart the phone, and ended up by giving me another phone. Life was good for the week, as I liked my new phone a lot. While not the fastest, its bigger screen was good for what I needed to do (email, browsing, ..) The next weekend, I was visiting my mom and dad, who live in a rural region. To make a long story short, I had to use my Optimus One overthere, because my brand new phone would not hold a call, or immediatly lost signal when I took the phone to answer. And for 2 months, when doing camping, or when visiting my family, I had to use my Optimus for everything that meant not being close to larger city. I went to see koodo again, and found no problem with the phone. There was an update that was due, and I waited for it, but it did not fix anything.

I went to koodo again, and I had an arrangement to choose another phone. They got the Galaxy S2X by the time, so I decided to get this one.

Then, my old Optimus finally got its retirement in the form of a media player for my daughter, and the Samsung never let me down.

I know that I cannot compare a value HTC phone with expensive one, but when I heard about ONE's radio problem, I somewhat loose trust in them. If I get a new phone, it will probably be a LG or a Samsung, based on my experience. Sure my HTC looks good and solid but, I have zero complain about my galaxy plastic phone. Maybe being plastic, like the old LG, helps with reception.

It is a good thing that the HTC looks good, because now, my its only purpose is to be looking at from time to time.

The SG4 is really tempting. But I don't think I need it at launch time. I'd probably wait a bit to have the price downor get an used S3. But not a HTC again, unless I can actually test one in the place I have to go.
[Galaxy S 4 General] riz157:
I've been buying samsung products for the last few years because I preferred them over others but I've never liked plastic.

I don't own shares in htc or Samsung so it doesn't matter to me who sells more. I'm honestly sharing my personal opinion which some might find useful and informative. Some may feel threatened by my comments, not sure why they would.

My views aren't going to deter anyone from buying S4 if they have already made up there minds. If anything perhaps help unsure individuals to really consider what is important to them in a smartphone. For me yes premium build is up there but it has to have more ie ui, specs for others it's not.

I really think S4 is more of the same and isn't really much of an improvement on last year's model other then different gimmicky software.

It still looks cheap and ugly, I'm not looking to offend anyone but that's what it is.
[Galaxy S 4 General] djbenny1:
*in your opinion
[Galaxy S 4 General] weeweeland:
Honestly I don't get what all fanboys are on about, I personally have a GS2, but to me both the GS4 and One are pretty much equal in terms of hardware. Removable battery? I have 2, yet the other one is sitting under my bed collecting dust. The only difference really is TouchWiz vs. Sense, SD card slot, and design. To me the One is a brilliant piece of work - the only concern being some reports of scratching. And no, I don't want to put a cover on - what's the point in getting a phone that looks great only to slab on a crappy $1 piece of polyurethane over it.

Another point to consider is that the CM team is unlikely to develop for the GS4 (see quote from XpLoDWilD)

So from my perspective really its SD card slot in Samsung vs. premium design of HTC, personally not being a big gamer I am favoring the HTC
[Galaxy S 4 General] cobraboy85:
http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/18/htc-one-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-camera

Well. That is pretty sad.

A company that spends sooo much energy convincing people of their revolutionary camera and ultra pixels should at least be able to outperform a note II... which is a device that was released late LAST year.

HTC is a joke.
[Galaxy S 4 General] riz157:
Yes like I said sharing my view but it does look cheap and is plastic. Do you prefer S4 design, material over Htc One?
[Galaxy S 4 General] tbong777:
Um No..The Note 2 is just THAT good....LOL But I am biased.