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[Nexus 4 General] Hr Kristian:
What's so great about real time viewing anyway?

A lot of People -myself included- hate the "seen" function added to Facebook chat.

I do take note of seeing other people writing on Skype and FB, but being honest with myself it's be better if I didn't have the option. That particular aspect of social tech completely kills my time (read: I'm drawn to the damn thing, looking for when the person responds, if it's being revised before being sent, etc. No doubt another side of my overanalyzing persona, but like hell I'm of the minority there)

But I guess having said all that I can understand how one wouldn't want to give it up.

Doesn't it require internet connection though? Talk about battery drain.

As for the whole Apple vs Google thing, or iOS vs Android rather.

It is of importance, it's about which side gets the most momentum and gets to set the status quo, be honest here, do you really want "badass design" to be the most important aspect of tech development? I SURE DON'T.

Tech is about new ideas, innovation, etc, so if you want perfection, you go build stuff in Minecraft or decorate something like your house or whatever.

The iPhone is a good phone, it's a good smartphone even, but high end Android phones are great and are pushing the envelope.

As for the app store size, whatever. The AppStore for example has ZERO working printer apps, the Play Store have great even free ones.

This is the two in a nutshell, iOS has a lot of fluff, Android has stuffs that works and that is useful.
[Nexus 4 General] Nigeldg:
This article pretty much sums up what the majority of iOS users are like to me. Not all, I know that the iPhone definitely has its merits, but most. Here are some quotes that stand out:

Pfft, Android has been close to or better than iOS for ages, it just hasn't been advertised very well. As soon as the GNex was released with ICS I thought Android was undoubtedly the superior OS.

How do people NOT see the benefits of an easily accessible battery which can be swapped? It's not like the the back kept falling off when you were using the damn phone.

Implies that all Android devices up to this point have been plastic slabs. Dafuq?!

It's a wireless charger, not a dock. If you're going to be a tech journalist, at least have some clue what you're talking about.

Oh sorry, I forgot that America is the entire world. Oh, wait...

*slow, sarcastic clapping*

Mailbox - so basically a third party mail app. Nothing special that can't be found on the Play Store, and I don't see any reason the stock one needs to be replaced.

Albumatic - a social network where you share photos with friends? I can't possibly think of an alternative

Vine - a video editing app, loads of which can be found on the Play Store. EDIT: Apparently it's more than just a video editing app, so maybe this one can't actually be found on Android.

Moves and Applauze - aren't these just Google Now features impractically implemented into separate apps?

Clear - So, a note app? Can't find one of those on the Play Store? Smh.

Meh, this is just my opinion on this. Feel free to point out any mistakes I've made.
[Nexus 4 General] mbucks911:
i agree with whoever said real time messaging (like "seen message" or "replying") is not a good thing. the point of messaging is that each side can respond at their leisure. adding the seen thing to fb puts pressure on both sides to respond. like if one side asks the other a question or wants to start a convo, but the other doesnt feel like it at that moment, then it shows the sender the little "seen" thing. once this happens the receiver pretty much has to reply or they look like a d*ck for ignoring them. whereas before you could just ignore it for a while after you looked at it and come back to it later. im just saying that it doesnt add much to the messaging experience, the messages still come through the same, we dont need to see exactly when the person has seen your message and when they are responding
[Nexus 4 General] bfspider:
MG is the leader of the Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field™ Crew and it shows from all his articles he writes on TechCruch.
[Nexus 4 General] praveenmarkandu:
while I can agree with most things, let me point out there is no substitute to Vine on Google Play. It is also not a Video editing app. There are a few Vine players, but bad implementations of them. None of them can post to Vine itself. HTC has Zoe but thats another story.
[Nexus 4 General] 3dupunk:
Strictly my opinion!

I think people are just simple and want something that is..like them, simple. I've found that android can be overwhelming for some, but for people like me....well like most of us here the allure of customization, innovation and pure gratification of being able to solve your phone's issues on your own(well, with the help of Google and the community that is xda)....granted, you probably caused the issue in the first place lol....but that's the beauty of android.

I'm an android fan boy, I can admit that. But without bias I can say that android is the better platform. I've owned Iphones in the past and the only thing that the iPhone has over android is that it plays better sounding music meaning the quality is better in that particular category.

First android phone I bought was the htc hero, haven't really had anything but android since except for 2 iphones which were quickly sold to go right back home where I am free to do almost as I please.
[Nexus 4 General] maddoggin:
This is bull crap. I don't care what any one says. Stock kernel is better than any custom kernel. And lasts me more than a day of normal use. Sorry but kernel devs (most anyways) add nothing but crap to make their apps work instead of trying to improve on stock kernel. My opinion!
[Nexus 4 General] beegbear:
I've been using various Android devices and various IOS devices.

software: iOS > Android

Jelly Bean is very close.. but not quite there yet. with iOS there's no need to worry about wake locks, apps feel a lot more efficient in the way they operate.

hardware: android based phones > iOS devices

Apple has always been conservative about their hardware. The fact there's no LED light is killing me
[Nexus 4 General] Nigeldg:
Cheers, edited that part
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
My thoughts exactly when I was reading the article. Hence the reason I labeled the thread as “an interesting read"
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
Exactly!!!
[Nexus 4 General] ramkumar2000:
i have never owned an iphone but using android from last 3 years and many of my friends have iphone, I personally think that ios lacks innovation, its almost the same in all its versions, apart from small changes here and there, but if we see android its has developed in a hell of innovative way.

I have compared both in some points

IOS lacks the widgets, Android 4.2 provides widgets even on lock screen

IOS have only one device from only one manufacturer but android its a see out there

IOS is closed source but Android is open and devs are modding it to the perfection

Iphones are costly like but Nexus 4 is very cheap (Factory Unlocked)
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
I was just reading another article stating that a large amount of iPhone 5 users find the device boring...wonder why:banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] rejanmanis:
Is there any specialties that the journalist love most ?

You can find this feature in almost all Chatting apps.

can you please post the link, i would love to see it.

and its real, its been 6 years since u can only slide left and right on the home screen, and that is bull ****.

As i concern, the Boring home screen which only slide left and right on the IOS, and no costumization of the home screen launcher,

unlike Android, u can find a bunch of home screen replacement, if u get bored with the old ones.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
I'll get it. Hang on. Still looking for the article I was specifically reading but here us a Google search for plenty of articles. https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...e-gws-hp.TAG96pFER6E&rlz=1Y1TXLS_enUS527US527
[Nexus 4 General] qazibasit:
Its biased how he thinks samsungs software is copied and that android on nexus is going beyond ios.

First samsungs TW is the best allbin one package. If even nexus people download all the utilitites of note taking apps, video editor , picture editor, smemo, and tons of other usable app then their android will also be termed bloatware.

Samsung provides us with a stable day to day use apps all in such a way that we dont have to go through play store to waste more money to buy the must have things ad free on our phones.

Plus android is successful just because samsung pushed in alk the great hardware to it. Not because google did some tweaking in linux and just made it open source. Remember what google come up with in the G1.

The only effort i appreciate is that google put really great maps on their phones. Rest is all gimmick. Obviously when u put a good gpu the appearance will definitely improve. Which samsung did to make android compete the iphones. Basless paid review by a so called iphone user.
[Nexus 4 General] Nigeldg:
If I could get the features but not the fugliness of TouchWiz, I'd be very happy. I generally think it looks cartoonish and a bit cheap, but when combined with supersaturated AMOLED displays it's ridiculous how ugly TouchWiz can be.
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
Are you serious? You think Android is just a tweaked Linux kernel? What about the C++ and Java code it has which makes the device work?

I agree Samsung pushed good hardware, however that's not the only thing they have they also have a huge marketing budget. Read somewhere they spent $8 billion last year in marketing alone. Go to any mall on any weekends here and you'll have a makeshift Samsung booth setup.All mobile shops have Samsung billboards here which used to be Nokia couple years back.

Yes, Samsung deserves credit for devices they came up with. But don't discredit Google.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
What? You didn't know Samsung invented android? (Sarcasm). Ever since the gs2, a good amount of mainstream users(my sister and my father) think the Samsung gs3 is its own thing not really knowing the backbone of what's actually running on the hardware. This is definitely becoming the norm. Everywhere I look all I see is gs3's. I even had one and although the hardware was stellar, I could never get used to the over saturated colors of that amoled. Samsung is quickly becoming if not already is the new iphone, which isnt bad as long as its running android and it will always have great Devs here on xda.
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
iPhone's are good phones, this whole battle is funny to me because it just comes down to preference. I can see why some people would prefer iOS, I prefer android..

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
There is definitely things to like about the iPhone...visually. The I sheep are too brainwashed to explore the other side. I've had an iphone, and windows phone. Android just allows so much, that its hard to leave. I'm getting tired of hearing iPhone users say the iPhone had things first that have been around for years.
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
odd, that statement did not put down apple/iphone in any way.
[Nexus 4 General] xfile087:
I disagree. It's not about being brainwashed. It's about investment. iPhone users have been such for years and have bought a lot of apps they now couldn't use on an android device.
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
Keyword there is “bought". Play store apps are for the most part free 99.9% of the time. There are a hand full of paid apps that I absolutely had to buy.
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
That and once you buy an app in the play store you own it forever...on the appstore if you don't back it up on iTunes on your computer your SOL and have to buy it again...so your really Sol if you buy a new computer or something and didn't back that mess up. I have apps from the play store on my new nexus 4 that I bought from 4 years ago on my Samsung GS captivate...I have an iPhone 3gs I use as an iPod touch in my car that I can't get the apps I had on my previous iPhone because I don't have the computer I had back then nor the old iPhone.
[Nexus 4 General] mackster248:
You guys should give this one a read as well.

http://rottmann.net/2013/01/an-ipho...e-nexus-4-completely/comment-page-1/#comments

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
This^
[Nexus 4 General] davwman:
What's scary about that review is that I actually gained some insight to some apps I've never heard about and I've been around android since early 2009
[Nexus 4 General] atulalvenkar:
He says Android hasn't worked for him earlier and is working now with Nexus 4/ JB. However apart from smoothness(project butter), every other feature he mentions is there from Froyo onwards if not earlier.
[Nexus 4 General] mackster248:
That's true, but ICS and JB has really refined Android in the looks department. I've been with Android since birth, but it has always been an eyesore up until ICS lol.
[Nexus 4 General] dark_ente:
actually, my purchases is tie to my account, in this regard it should be the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] vincentistan:
Im currently on atom v9, which is 4.2.2, but i wanna flash the new pa 3.1 which is full 4.2.2 which needs the updated baseband and bootloader. My bootloader is currently PRIMEKK15, and i tried to flash the new primcl03 zip but it just says failed in twrp. is there any way around this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] dozingblack:
how did you flash the TWRP?? do it as the same way you did flash custom recovery using fastboot

you can get the latest bootloader and radio (in the factory image tgz file) at http://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] tennisjunkie:
For some reason, just recently when I try to delete a thread from my sms messages it reappears at the bottom of the page. I went thru and attempted to delete all the threads and they all came back. I now have 35 conversations going... Anyone have an idea how to fix this? Thank you
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
I have been trying to flash Imonseyon leankernel v5.1 for awhile now and I'm having issues... I don't know if the link doesn't work or what the deal is. I want the 184v undervolt bc I have been having crazy battery drain.. Everytime I flash it I get a status 2 in TWRP. Any suggestions..
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] santod040:
What rom are you using?

If it's a Sense based GB rom, did you grab the Sense kernel?

If it's an AOSP GB rom, did you grab the Aosp kernel?

If it's an ICS rom, it won't work.

***EDIT

Via TWRP website:

Since TWRP 2.3 is based on AOSP jelly bean sources, TWRP now uses recovery API 3 instead of 2. Some zips may no longer work if the developer is using an out-of-date update-binary.

This API change should not be a problem on newer devices, but older devices will probably encounter several zips that need to be updated.

If needed, you can try using this update-binary that was compiled with current sources.

It goes in your zip file in the META-INF/com/google/android folder. If you're getting a status error 2 during zip install, then an outdated update binary is almost certainly to blame.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
Ok thank you so much! FAST response lol. Would there be another recovery that is better to use or it doesn't matter?? Currently I am using your, I believe, ICS rooted debloated ROM stock/rooted. I was on liquidsmooth aosp and cm7 thundershed switching between them to get a feel for them... But for some reason I tried to do a full wipe and then reinstall from my restore of those two roms and try the leankernal, it's saying failed after I updated to TWRP 2.4.3

**EDIT:

Where is that zip you are talking about located.. In /system or somewhere else bc I can't seem to find it?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disconnecktie:
There is a backup bug in the latest release of Twrp. Switch to 4ext and your backups may work again. Someone posted on the n7 he could restore backups in Twrp from the previous version with the version he made them with but restoring backups on the latest version couldn't restore those
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
Thank you!
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tm24fan8:
4ext is definitely the way to go on the Thunderbolt. Best recovery ever, wish the Gnex had it.
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] santod040:
The zip I was referring to, was the kernel zip you were trying to flash.

And if you have run my rom, you should know I suggest using 4ext recovery.

It's mentioned in all my rom OP's. ;)
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
Ok thank you! I have switched to 4ext thank you for the refferal
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] disconnecktie:
Do you backups work now?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
No actually.. It's ok though. I don't mind starting over.. Thank you for your help! I am running leankernal now at 184mhz unlocked to see what kind of battery improvements it brings, if any.. With JellyBlur ROM.. Any sugesstion on a ROM?
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Milimbar:
Good luck with the 184mhz, I can not use that on my phone, always does the deep sleep of death.... thats not a good thing.

As for a ROM, I always suggest one of Santod's ... really any of them lol
[Thunderbolt Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lacoursiere18:
Dude so far no problems with 184mhz.. Speed is no issue, no lag, no reboots, but I'll have to put it through the 24hr test to fully see how it does. And I charge my battery to 100% when installed it, approx. 4hr 41mins with pretty much none stop usage.. at 72% now. On the old kernal I would have been dead..
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] killercheung:
I just want to warn everyone the 2003 rom has many problem, since it is an internal development version. Here is the bugs I found right now.

1.Maybe it's not a "BUG". It miss the Wireless Modem which many people asked for a long time.

2.I tried Windows Media Player and Pocket Music 1.5, both can't turn off the display, which means you have to leave the display on when you listen the music. If any one can turn off the display , please tell us, may be I got some software conflicted.

3. 2 "Power" Logo on the setting menu, but the have different content. It looks like one is the new power setting tab, but it didn't provided some old fuction in the old power setting tab, so O2 kept the old one.

4. The SIM Contacts (Sim utility provided by PPC 2003) is horrible.It has NO fuction except copy the SIM card address to the phone.

5. YOU MUST NOT install Batterypack 2003 on the phone. It looks like working after you install, but your machine will never boot up after a soft-reset except hardreset the phone. (It is PPC 2003 / Battery Pack 2003 problem, not O2 / HTC's fault).

6. You will never know if the current signal support GPRS or not. It will not display the G logo in the "signal bubble".

Please add the list if you got any problem with the new rom.

If the bug I listed can't stop you install the new rom, go ahead :twisted: .

Moreover, it's not an official / final version rom, if you want stable rom, stay with XDA SE 1.1 rom.

Sorry for my horrible english~
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] kalex:
Not a bug. it was a feature added by xda-developers.

tried it with windows media player and got the same thing. Pocket music 2.0 refuses to work at all

when i have grps signal i have G displayed in my bubble.

Alex
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Peter Poelman:
No, it was added in the new ROMs by Qtek and O2. Whether it's a Microsoft or HTC tool I don't know, but it's definitely not ours...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] kalex:
XDA developer Peter Poelman,

didn't know that. i thought it was urs.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] RadekBenes:
PPC 2003

Hi all

Only autentization to VPN over cetificates is good feature for me.

Another features :?

XDA-dev ROM 1.1 is best solution :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] killercheung:
It seems the "screen toggle" bug (can't switch off the screen probelm) can be fixed by install the PocketMusic 2.0 Bundle plus the 2.0_4_3 fix.

I can see a hotkey to turrn off display with 2.0 version.

Moreover, the "auto turn off display" fuction still works on the PocketMusic 1.5 Bundle version, and 2.0 too.

It's so strange the PocketMusic 2.0 works but WMP 9.0 doesn't work.

I'm happy with the PPC2003 now. If we have to wait to long beforce the official release, will XDA-Developer release an extra SE version based on the current version of PPC2003?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] pmprivate:
It still suffers fron some sms issues, i cant get a delivery receipt, and also the time sent stamp is actually the time received.

The auto config does not work, so as a result i can't get gprs working...

(Anyone know the settings for o2 uk ?)

All in all though a good upgrade !!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] crash:
i loaded the 2003 rom and only have minor issues.

1. when connecting the network says voicestream instead of t-mobile.

2. connection seems slower even with the accelerator proxy turned on. the connection used to be as high as 40k according to spb gprs monitor. now i haven't seen it break 20k.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Dondi:
Unit no longer powers-on when placed in sync cradle; In order to sync the unit I now have to either (a) make sure unit is turned-on before placing it into cradle, or (b) place powered-off unit in cradle, then turn power on.

Not a major issue, but certainly a back-step in functionality. Anyone else notice this?

I'm using a TMobile XDA with updated ATT radio stack and PPC2003.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] killercheung:
To Dondi :

I have your issue too, but I didn't think it is a problem for me, since I hate the machine suddenly power on itself when I am charging it.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Cyberb0b:
i guess it s even better for the screen not to be lighted all the time when plugged on the cradle
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] sheran_g:
Hey all. I just installed WM2003 PE. It looks and feels great. I only have the following comments:

I have installed the ROM on my Qtek 1010.

1. I can't seem to see any MIDI ringtone support on this one (probably because it's not a final release)

2. I'm still running on my old Radio Version 3.23 and my GPRS resumes connection seamlessly after calls - which is great.

3. I've read somewhere that applications will be visible on the 'taskbar' when running, but do not get this functionality also. No worries on this though, because 'Switch' works fine with WM2003.

4. Still no ability to add custom Operator Logos.

5. Hooray for the 'Busy' tone and indication!

SPB GPRS Monitor works fine with 2003. I also wanted to know from the rest of you guys: Do you have to manually initiate GPRS connectivity after a soft-reset? Or does it pick up your default connection and auto-connect?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Dondi:
To killercheung and Cyberb0b: You've given me a new perspective on the XDA not automatically switching on when placed in the cradle in the off state -- I appreciate the benefits you pointed out.

Also, I did notice that when I initially loaded the Ozone beta (prior to upgrading radio stack) the GPRS symbol was being displayed regularlyand I had no problem connecting with GPRS and getting decent performance (> 20 Kbps). However, after I convinced myself to "go all the way" and also perform the Radio Stack update, I now rarely see the GPRS symbol, and GPRS perfirmance has dropped to the 1Kbps level.

Now I wonder if Ozone also updated the radio (which I perhaps subsequently "downgraded" by loading the ATT RSU). Can anyone shed some light on this?