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[Nexus 4 General] jamesc760:
I used to love HTC devices until I realized that they were deceiving their customers by saying that they would release boot unlocked phones and never did.
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
I have had (since android/ios days) one HTC device, 2 Samsung devices, 2 iPhones and one LG device and one Asus device... 3 of which were nexus devices... Of the 7 the build quality was the best on this here nexus 4 close second would be the HTC...But I hated the software...if nexus devices were not an option I would prefer touchwiz from samsung over sense any day...
[Nexus 4 General] neotekz:
why are you trying so hard to convert people? if they ask you about your phone that's one thing but to tell them that yours is better is another. Lots of people like htc sense and samsung's touchwiz, even though they do slow the phone down a bit they also have some nice features. If they dont care about flashing roms, having an unlocked boot or updates first from google(many dont) then you can easily argue that the S3 or One X is better.

I cant speak for americans but here in canada there is no real advantage to having an unlocked phone, prices are the same if you have a contract or go prepaid so most just sign a contract and get their smartphone for free or pay a max of 200 for the newest smartphone. Even though the nexus is inexpensive it still cost more than any phone on contract.
[Nexus 4 General] hipocrazy:
To each their own. What some people are comfortable with others are not.

And, really, if you are not going to root and become a 'power user' of your device what's the harm in having an iphone? It's a nice device in it's own right. Just not as nice as my Nexus 4 :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] votdfak:
After three iPhones, HOX, this is the best smartphone I ever had. Glass design is my favorite. Pure and clean Android, just works. Loving this wonderful device.
[Nexus 4 General] calyxim:
I quite understand a guy who doesn't get a nexus just because his HTC has a much better phone book.

At the end of the day this is a phone. Believe it or not, there are people who use it for its phone functionalities.
[Nexus 4 General] Nigeldg:
Mind = blown
[Nexus 4 General] Shano56:
My sister saw my phone and was like "oh nice is that the new galaxy" I was like "-.- no" at least it was better than when a buddy of mine saw my n7 and asked "is that one of those ipad things" (more people questioned my n7 cuz they've never seen anything like it)

Anyways, my point is people don't know the difference, only thing they know what they see on TV and what their friends buy. If everyone has an iphone, their uninformed friend will probably get an iphone. If everyone gets a gs3 (while still a good phone, they may not know or care for the differences from other phones) they will probably get a gs3.

I enjoy my nexus 4, and I bought it after considering the alternatives. I love choice and being informed :D
[Nexus 4 General] shook187:
What you Nexus nerds need to understand, not everyone cares to have a "pure Android experience"

Quite frankly a pure Android experience is quite boring compared to what other phones do, like the Note 2.
[Nexus 4 General] riko540:
Most people just want a phone that works and they don't have to mess with on a daily basis. The iPhone is a great example of this...(start rant) until Apple updates iOS to a new version then it stops working the way people are used to so they go and buy the newest iPhone because it acts like their old phone used to.(end rant)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
For the record I never forced any change they saw mine thought it was cool then I told them why everything else sucks. IPhone people I know they might use 5 apps top so either way it would be a waste. The others just didn't want to learn. I tried showing them launchers but yeah Samsung did a great job making people think the gs3 is hot stuff. I mean it is good hardware inside hate plastic.

I honestly think people want certain phones just because others have it. IPhone I kinda understand its not bad but also these people didn't have even the latest phones they had like the first evo, galaxy s2. If the nexus 4 is not a major upgrade and for 50 bucks or less. I mean you have to be stupid to turn that down.
[Nexus 4 General] oldblue910:
Once you go XDA, you can't go back. XDA will provide the light you cannot resist. :P XDA is like Hotel California...you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] mitgsx:
So true! XDA provides the means to a truly great phone experience!
[Nexus 4 General] monte666:
Nexus nerds thanks that implies we are smart. And being intelligent I can see you are trolling in the wrong forum. Why do Samsung guys come over to talk crap. I've never gone to the note forums but I think I might start just to talk crap.
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
Exactly... Why are there so many anti nexus people trolling on the nexus 4 forums lately? I don't go harassing SGS owners on their section of XDA...it must be jealously.
[Nexus 4 General] sspyed:
It's hilarious but it's totally understandable--it isn't as if iPhone users are ignoring the fact that the features have been around for years; that'd be these people. The users just don't know a thing about Android or any other phone (Windows etc) because iPhones are the only phones that exist to them. Hell I haven't the foggiest idea about iOS and its features because I've used Android since I first took the step up from Blackberry.

I've never actually run around trying to "convert" folks to my preferences since I imagine that'd make me pretty annoying, haha. But every iOS-owning friend of mine that's asked me if they could check out my N4 has wound up selling their iPhone & buying one.

Personally I don't care what phones other people use, I'm just glad my wife's always chosen Android like me--it's nice having great company while going through the long process of SBFing/flashing all the way back to stock; 90% of the time because she's flashing back to stock herself, haha. Nothing like becoming Linux-literate together by bootlooping & soft-bricking together repeatedly.
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
Honestly for people who are always bugging me to fix their tech devises that ask me what phone to get I tell them an iPhone so I don't have to help them do anything to it(I am known to be the tech junky in my friends and family) but for me personally the iPhone is boring...I love android and all it is capable of and I love my nexus 4 best of all the android devices I have seen or played with to date...with a close second being my nexus 7.
[Nexus 4 General] gotzaDroid:
It's obvious, because the new nexus wasn't made by the greatest Android phone manufacturer of all time, Samsung. [\sarcasm]
[Nexus 4 General] Yahi:
Most people buy phones to be part of the cool-crowd. I believe most people who buy powerful phones such as the SGS3 don't even know its specs. Same deal with iPhoners.

Truth be told though, it matters very little now a days when most phones do just about everything an average user wants/needs them to do.
[Nexus 4 General] more2come:
When it comes to hardware and build quality, Samsung always convinced me most. Just gotta hand that to big S. TouchWhiz made some major improvements over the years and is enjoyable, got some nifty features that are really useful! The main reason why I ditched my S3 was the way Samsung interacted with the XDA community and the overall open source community. They promised to deliver full hardware documentation for their Exynos4 SoC, but they only uploaded some incomplete and outdated crap. This is the main reason why I have a Nexus 4 now! And having a Qualcomm powerhouse with 2 Gigs of RAM is pretty nice, too. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] gtg465x:
I tried to convert my mom way back in the day. Her first smartphone was an iPhone 3GS, and I convinced her to upgrade to a Samsung Infuse 4G. She never really got used to it or loved it. Then I got a free Samsung Focus S Windows Phone and gave that to her. Even though it was probably more simplified than iOS, she still never got used to it. Finally, when two years of failed conversions had gone by, I told her to go with the iPhone 5 and she picked it back up instantly and loved it. :silly: I will never try to convert anyone again. Especially iPhone owners. My wife has an iPhone 4S and by golly I will keep her happy by keeping her on iPhones.
[Nexus 4 General] monte666:
Word man both my brothers have my gs3s neither knows a damn thing about them. But they like the cameras is about all they know about any phone
[Nexus 4 General] oldblue910:
I will never try to convert people. I like Nexus devices for reasons that 99% of the smartphone market doesn't understand or care about. I readily admit that I am incapable of seeing things through the eyes of the average smartphone consumer, so therefore trying to convert them would be a failure. Know your role. My role is geek, not average consumer. :D
[Nexus 4 General] peestandingup:
I never understood why someone would want to convert others from one giant corporation to another like its their sworn duty or something. Seriously, who cares what people use? Does Google or Apple give me a cookie if I get someone to jump ship??

BTW, calling everyone who doesn't like Android "iSheep" makes you look immature & quite frankly, not very bright.
[Nexus 4 General] kid1da:
I don't think we should try to convert but educate. Like some people have said most don't know a thing about the phone they're using. Most iPhone users believe it's the best phone on the market bc Apple made it or its an IPhone. When anyone ask me what phone I have, I try to let them know what it is about and who makes it. Android phones nowadays are much more powerful than they used to be but alot of average users don't know how far Android has come.
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Yeah I was not trying to convert people your forgetting these people had older phones and they were able to upgrade for 50 bucks or less. So an iPhone 4 vs a nexus 4 is a big difference. Vs a galaxy s2 I mean these should be no brainers the phone wins in every area.
[Nexus 4 General] drpepe:
Different strokes for different folks ;)
[Nexus 4 General] skyrocket727:
there's always these guys among us and remember who's duped in the first place. :D:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Look at my phone history I've been through a few droids! HOX was the best out of that lot for it's screen, design and camera it excelled, where it failed was the software, with a Nexus device your always up to date on software that is what they are about. Sure they may not have the fancy hi tech on them like the OEM ones do but you'll usually get the latest OS. Stock android is very usable, I've been through TouchWiz and Sense and Sense by far is my favorite UI better than TW but each have features which stock android lacks. Simple things like proper Facebook sync on Sense or the smart features on TW which make it appealing to others.

But yes it's more about the brand and Samsung are current market leaders in the Android world and no doubt the S4 will probably out sell any android device this year just how they did last year and the year before!

But for me I'm very happy with the N4, sure the camera sucks but I don't really use it that much but the OS is simply the most up to date compared to any non nexus phone and in a few months we'll get KLP to play with and Ubuntu OS and what not which makes up for the lack of hardware spectacles.

But the new phones do look tempting and let's see what Samsung announce tomorrow..
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
in the end people are just going to buy the phone that the commercials tell them are the best.
[Nexus 4 General] User1110:
The Nexus 4 runs just as smooth as an iPhone 5, has the same app store as the s3 and even run some apps and games better than the s3 thanks to the better processor. If they'd rather pay $600 dollars or shell out a monthly bill in the high triple digits for a "cooler phone" instead that's their problem. Just enjoy your phone and all it has to offer :)
[Nexus 4 General] myorks1127:
I converted my gf to android and now she has the DNA, had to because Verizon and better than outdated S3 she says it is so much better than having an iphone
[Nexus 4 General] wngmv:
I have given up to argue with the hardcore iSheeps. All the ones that wants to learn the great things about Android have already converted. The rest of them can stay with their crappy 5 row icons.
[Nexus 4 General] estallings15:
You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.
[Nexus 4 General] ttige:
In their defence, my N4 has 5 rows as well in its app drawer :p
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Now we know what the s4 looks like and I don't think its bad just kinda the same. What I don't understand is why is touchwiz so big and ugly. Is it for blind people?
[Nexus 4 General] ptesmoke:
just ppl with sun in their eyes.....

:eek::eek::eek::what::cool:
[Nexus 4 General] xcyborg007:
+1 :)
[Nexus 4 General] ninjafan:
I admit I show of the things I can do on my nexus 4 and 7, but the simple interface of iOS is what some people genuinely need to operate technology.
[Nexus 4 General] nbeebe24:
Welcome to reality. There's always going to be someone who feels differently about something you do in life. They're just phones. Don't let them define who you are
[Nexus 4 General] ridearoundsolo:
I'm done with converting people and rather bear with people liking what they like, my girlfriend likes all the cool things with my device but in the end her iPhone works great for her needs but she knows android got the upper hand in the mobile game
[Nexus 4 General] ismethajametovic:
To each their own, pal. YOU CAN'T FORCE PEOPLE TO LIKE SOMETHING. THIS ISN'T THE OLDEN DAYS. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Nexus 4 General] SGS_elko:
AW: I just don't get it...

Before my Nexus4 I had a SGS1, my sister has now a SGS3. I tested her "new" phone and all I can say is "It's a crappy ****" on the softwer side. They make the same bugs as in SGS1, it lags whole the time. If you look at touchwiz you will see it is overloaded with useless stuff. For me there is only Nexus in the future :D
[Nexus 4 General] serginio358:
I converted many people to change iPhone by an android phone. Sorry i lie, it's not me. It. In really it's apple himself with the price of his phones (800 euro for iPhone 5). I just making a point in showing that ratio quality/ price is better for nexus 4 or Samsung SIII than iPhone 4s or 5.
[Nexus 4 General] scottx .:
I converted my boss. But...he lost his HTC he had and he got mad at his skyrocket and threw it at the wall. Busted it and the otterbox all to hell. He's back on the iPhone 3. He loves every Droid phone I get, most of all this new one. The glass intrigued him. (We're glass glaziers, so glass is our thing)

He's just bad about losing phones. He lost a galaxy note 1, HTC something att and an iPhone 4s all in a year. I'd feel sorry for a nice phone like ours if he owned it. He would just scratch it up and lose it. That note 1 he had, he cracked the screen on it 3 days after he got it brand new.

Some people just belong with iPhones. Not everyone thinks like we do.
[Nexus 4 General] vollmilch:
did you guys know that the iphone 5 had a second microphone for noise cancelling? thats freaking genius!
[Nexus 4 General] chrisrozon:
Yowzer!
[Nexus 4 General] serginio358:
Iphone 5 has a lot of excellent functionality. Except one: its ratio quality on price is weak in comparison with nexus 4 or SIII.
[Nexus 4 General] donwhann:
i've not tried to convert anyone but my 2 bro's are iphone/apple mad. when they see my phone, the way i have it set up doesnt interest them in the slightest...although one of them is jealous of the screen size...ha !!
[Nexus 4 General] peestandingup:
The "phone winning in every area" is your opinion though, is it not? And again, why do you personally care what people use??
[Nexus 4 General] x_budd:
Got my gf to switch from iphone to N4 (even bought it for her) and.... Now she loves it and says her old phone feels like a toy.
[Nexus 4 General] serginio358:
Sextoy? ;)

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] Drachen808:
They will find it on their own. All of my mom's cousins and my mom used the iphone. Then they got tired and they migrated en masse to the galaxy s3. My parents still use their iphone, but that is because they are the types who "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", so they will keep their iphones (3g or 3gs I think) until they don't work.
[Nexus 4 General] gamepr:
Camera and build quality are waaaay better on the HTC Onex+

The only reason I'm on the nexus now is because I couldn't use the HTC on T-Mobile's network. I used to have the HTC on att straight talk.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
I have a feeling the GS4 is gonna bring a lot of iUsers over to the android camp...
[Nexus 4 General] djwyman:
Yea I think it will as well...since it is packed full of gimmicky features and that's what sells
[Nexus 4 General] chaose:
I feel that you people are judging others too harshly by your own biased standards. You might think that Nexus 4 is great due to the vanilla android experience and fast updates, but others might prefer the extras that come with TouchWiz or Sense, or the nice intergration with other Apple products offered by iPhone. OEM launcher skins are not all bad, sometimes they do offer neat features. For example, the multi window in TouchWiz is great for keeping 2 app windows open at the same time. Nexus 4 doesn't support T-mobile's wifi calling but the samsung phones do. Don't bash other people simply because you think your viewpoint is superior. You can't force convert someone. Whenever someone asks me for a phone recommendation, I don't blindly go "Buy the Google Nexus 4." I ask them what they will be using the phone for, their technical expertise, what apps do they use the most, battery life expectancy, budget, spec/carrier preference and such. I then make a recommendation based on their needs, not my biases.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Moved from HOX+ to nexus because of the dev community in HOX+ is not quite big. I bought this one a week ago and my HOX+ is now use by my gf. She loves the device. Tbh, the build quality of the HOX+ is great compared to LG but unfortunately not much dev is on the device so the variability and choice is not that much.

I think from now on I will stick to nexus devices. Any idea when the next nexus smartphone will be released?
[Nexus 4 General] badboy47:
All your points doesn't seems to prove why its fail. its more like a personal opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] blendobass:
I couldn't stand this N4 and sold it and got a S2 LTE version.. best move ever...

I have LTE, I have 2 extra batteries for travel and travel charger i can charge 2 at a time ( i need batteries, i don't sit by a desk or a power plug) I love the SD card storage as I need to download huge files, I need the USB otg for plugging in cheap keyboards in other countries and then giving them away, I need to switch sims and the n4 sim card tray is cheap...

most of all, I need a tough phone that doesn't attract attention or look like a yuppie toy, so I am very glad to have a very strong phone that i can drop and sit on and stuff again without wondering if i just broke it.

The S2 LTE skyrocket is 10x more useful to me, I don't notice a slower phone, the screen difference isn't something that i notice, 1 gig of ram is plenty for a phone, they have the same 1.5 pro, i dont notice the quad core thing making the phone better...

I do notice the LTE network being faster where i live by far.

The N4 is a expensive to fix, impossible to have power if away from the grid for a couple of days, impossible to download the 10gig files i need to, and it's fragile and cheap.

That's my thoughts, I sold my n4 about 1 week before they became back in stock for a profit, found a s2 lte for $80, bought a couple of things on ebay for it for about $20 and when I am out in the real world and on the move you couldn;t even compare a dead battery phone that is made of cheap glass on the back, the sim card tray is easy to drop and cheap way to hold a card, and the storage man ! Not to mention the USB OTG that allows me to use keyboards, thumb drives, a mouse.....

That's why I like Android was the removable battery, the extra storage, the USB OTG>.. all that stuff the iphone misses.. and here i ended up with a Nexus 4 that was even more closed than and iphone, at least iphone has cheap replacement parts and is easy to find someone to fix, and tougher...

in the real world, and alien would choose the aged phones to the N4 last from many android phones.

I am running cm10.1 on the S2 and I swear it is just as fast and responsive as the n4 was, but to be honest if firefox os ends up being really open sourced without being tied to Google, I will dump android, I find Google is massing to much data on me and has become like apple iphone..

I use a mac btw, but would never get an iphone, trust me, when your sailing and you need your gps you will wish you had a couple spare batteries, really the other day i was on a trip with my friend with their sealed unit and the car's ligher thing was broken, so we had no power, well my phone I could just throw in the cup holder and keep the music and directions going while the iphone was put away until the hotel, then when we got to the hotel, we wanted to go walk around seattle right away, the iphone stayed charging at the hotel while my last fresh battery got us around with the maps.. true story.

Having extra batteries could save my life one day on a 3 day trek I bet..
[Nexus 4 General] ImperatorShade:
I've actually successfully converted a few people to android. Mainly iPhone fanboys/girls. Just don't try to convert old people or show offs or people who have a hard time figuring out the UI of a phone... Don't you just hate it when iPhone elitists brag about how premium iOS is and how it 'Just Works' and all of those 'new features' that came with iOS 6 when android had all of those features and more from gingerbread... I've also noticed that almost every celebrity uses iPhones.. Its usually the tech crowd or the people with lower budgets who get android phones..
[Nexus 4 General] BrianDigital:
Well done people just like what they like. To anyone tells me they are switching to android from iPhone. I do tell them this, they are going to have a culture shock when things aren't EXACTLY the same. It's goes both ways
[Nexus 4 General] spacecasespiff:
I don't convert anyone. I love my n4. Best phone I've ever used and I've had a lot of the top phone, sg3, lg optimus g, one x, and gnex. Love this phone from the build to the camera ( took about 50 pics over the weekend and every one looked great) to the speed of the os. The best parts are the updates. Android is always improving and we are at the front of the line. Thank you Google for the nexus line of phones and tablets. I will never go backwards again.
[Nexus 4 General] blendobass:
Also people that use Mac computers like iphone because things are pretty seamless and they don't have to waste time fiddle faddling.. also musicians because the iphone has audio in and external mics, and comes with garageband, also video makers because iphone has imovie when you get it ...

I don't like iphones, but i can see why some people are way better off if they don't want to think about twiddle dumbing around with their little phone and just want to get some work done...

Most Djs, musicans, designers, film makers use mac for lots of reasons, they notice iphone blends in good with their live, but android doesn't mesh as easy.

I won't get an iphone because i only buy unlocked phones, that i can change storage and battery..
[Nexus 4 General] Fataldesain:
Dude I do not care what they use I told them this is the latest and greatest and you could probably get it for 50 bucks they went for it. And vs an iPhone 4 and gs2 nexus 4 wins in every area