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[One (M7) General] riz157:
Not sure what promises HTC made to retailers if any, yes they must have provided retailers with some dates whether these were promised of not who knows.

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It's a beautiful morning. I hear the birds singing outsid my window, one of my neighbours is just getting in to his car the sound of his radio playing wakes me up.

What's this someone knocking on my door i look out of my bedroom window, it's a courier. Could this be delivery of my phone.

I run down open the door greet the postman with a smile, hurriedly sign for the package.

I rip open the package and yes it's arrived my HTC one.

Work of fiction Short story titled Waiting for my HTC One

written by Rizwan Nawaz
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Where did you order it from?

Lucky you... To think they announced a delay.
[One (M7) General] Tarzan-:
Spoke to Handtec on the phone and they haven't received not a Single unit as per the guy on the phone. According to him black and silver will be delivered the same day from Handtec and they are getting their stock straight from the HTC.

I'd say good on him for not giving false hopes.

Also posted on another thread (about delayed)
[One (M7) General] buBleZ:
So any new updates from Handtec? I heard 25th may extend to 29th as well.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
25th to 28th is just wishful thinking. And guess what. If it's indeed 29th don't expect it to be shipped until 2nd of April. Because 29th = good friday, 30th & 31st = weekends, April 1 = Easter

So yeah. If you're expecting in on the 29th then prepare for another wait until april 2nd. :D And yeah I just hope HTC won't shock us with "April fools! The real release date of HTC One is 30th of April" lol!
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
Those might be holidays. But it's up to the delivery carrier if they count those as blackout days.

I know UPS and USPS in the states count those days as normal business day

Most businesses are open during those days. Or open for a few hours
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
No I already asked this with handtec themselves. They said they're closed on th 29th till april 1 so if the handset comes indeed on the 29th they'll deliver it on the 2nd of april
[One (M7) General] omersak:
You're just the breaker of hearts and shatterer of dreams, aren't you? :p

Also, which ass did Handtec pull the 25th March date from, as everyone else has it listed for the 29th. Sales tactic?
[One (M7) General] weaselEST:
They said week commencing 25th of March.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
No haha! In fact i'm on the same situation as you. BTW here's what they exactly said
[One (M7) General] Gig11gs:
I have just made an order from Handtec. Just because they don't count VAT on international orders :o

So i'm on this boat now is it 25th or 29th :P?
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
:D spam htc uk asking them when will they distribute stocks on handtec. Im sure if they get alot of messages like these theyll answer and prolly release it earlier
[One (M7) General] lukemo:
So nobody has un update from Handtec? Thanks.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Just post on their facebook page. We are all on the same situation here. They should be able to reply now since this is the time theyre usually active
[One (M7) General] lukemo:
I perfectly know how to contact them (anyway I'm not on Facebook); I asked only not to overload them with "spam"...
[One (M7) General] maxbe:
The only thing that htc uk can tell on twitter is "it started rolling out on Friday"
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
That's why I said to spam them. You won't get any decent info from them unless you pressure them.
[One (M7) General] MuhKoInc:
As much as I hate spamming, I'm +1'ing this one, mostly cause he's right, big companies tend to ignore a tiny little voice unless it suddenly grows larger. Metaphorically, ofcourse :P
[One (M7) General] weaselEST:
Does handtec enable cancelling and refunds after preordering with paypal?

Can I change the account they will make the refund?
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
That's been updated to 'it will be available in the next couple of weeks' and on t-mobile 'in the following weeks' which

tells me that the half-wit teenager in charge of the HTC Twitter feed knows less about the release date than we do.

Bit of a farce, really. Flagship phone, third rate PR campaign, fourth rate distribution rollout.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Hi! Yes I would indeed suggest to cancel the preorder instead. As you have said you just preordered last March 25th so you'll likely be expecting the device from the 15th to 19th which would be only a few days left before the official launch of the device on your country. Unlike in my situation where there's still no dates even rumors till now and we'll likely be getting a non-LTE version so I really opted in purchasing it internationally.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Partial agree with you.

HTC is on a very bad financial position right now and there are not many paths to follow rather than to go on with the releases in the rest of the world with or without stock. Personally, I believe that they don't have stock and they will not be able to cover the demand neither in UK nor in US nor in other part of the world for the first months. I hope not but my feeling tells me otherwise.

When have you put your pre-order on handtec?
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Ahh! Just remembered! To all the Telstra AU users... Is your 3g there using HSPA+ thing is it could be used as DC-HSPDA/HSPA+ on which the HTC One UK variant is not compatible.

Asian/European variants are using LTE for 4g speeds while US variants are using a gsm only with HSPA+ for 4g speeds. So likely this is the case why you guys aren't having 3g reception using the UK variant.

Some guy here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40015199&postcount=26

provides a way to enable HSPA+ on the UK HTC One variant but I wouldn't recommend this as it requires root and I don't want you guys to risk or gamble on this as this is not 100% sure yet.
[One (M7) General] SecretPup:
28th March. and i've cancelled it already buddy. it isn't worth the wait for me anymore. especially, with the crazy customs duty rules here, i would have been convinced if the phone will be shipped by this week. but now, i'll wait for the release here on the third week. i really hope that HTC doesn't delay it any further than that date ;)
[One (M7) General] :
Will try this out as soon as it arrives tomorrow! Thanks again!

Edit: Just saw the extra bit to your post, hmm I may do to try it out as I am only in Australia until December anyway...
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
htc one 801n
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Serious about this? Like I said this requires rooting the device and you might not get the chance of returning it in case it won't work. This is a gamble where you might end up having a device that only works on 2g networks.
[One (M7) General] :
So the HTC one 801n is the one coming from the UK? That means it is not compatible with UMTS 850 at all?
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
UMTS850 is on the specs table that 4onu has provide.

4onu I was under the impression that ONE did not support HSPA+...(see anandtech review http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/15)
[One (M7) General] :
Yeah I understand, but I can change carriers easily enough until I leave Australia. Would the LTE networks not work either? I can't imagine they would be affected. However if 4onu is correct, and it doesn't have the 850 3g band, then there is no point to take the risk at all haha
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
htc one 801n is coming from u.k. and have one more look
[One (M7) General] 4onu:
have a look .. the difference between htc one 801n and htc one 801e

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=4248&id2=4209
[One (M7) General] :
Woops!! Sorry 4onu my mistake, I totally missed that. :eek:

Well that is good news then! :D
[One (M7) General] takitoes:
Argh im lost!

So in the comparison all i can see different is that the e doesnt have the LTE support and the n (which is the model being shipped by handtec?) supports the Australian Telstra 850mhz HSPA+ band but not the 1800mhz LTE?

Sorry maybe its too late but am i missing something :eek::confused:
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Hi! 801n and 801e are just 2 hardware variants of HTC One.

I'm not sure how accurate pdadb.net is but it shouldn't have HSPA+ in there. The UK model is using MDM9215M modem which is having GSM, HSDPA & LTE connectivity. Unlike the MDM8215 which has DC-HSDPA/HSPA+ & GSM connectivity only.

Qualcomm haven't released it's modem chipset that can support all frequency bands yet. So smartphone makers would have to choose between LTE or HSPA+ to use.

Please also take not HSPA+ comes in 2 different variants.

regulard HSPA+ which caps only to 21mbps and HSPA+/DC-HSDPA which caps to 42mbps.

The one used by T-Mobile is the 21mbps HSPA+ if this is the HSPA+ used by telstra then it won't work with HTC One as this is a customized kind of 4g connection.

I would say the compatible HSPA+ for telstra is suppose to be the one found in the 801e variant.

Look at the table found in anandtech's review here to see the difference of the UTMS bands found in HTC One.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/15

And by the way for those who might get confused with all our terms...

HSDPA, UMTS, WCDMA are practically the same.
[One (M7) General] takitoes:
Thanks heaps for explaining!

Im confused though;

Going by the anandtech article the EMEA (assuming this the the 801n) and the ASIA models and even the UMTS only versions all support HSDPA 42 on the 850mhz? Isnt this what Telstra are running?

From wikipedia:

So shouldn't the only problem be with the LTE network?
[One (M7) General] :
It is very peculiar then, as Telstra does support DC-HSDPA+. I can't understand why it wouldn't work here..

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The EMEA and the Asian variant (which is the one they will be selling here) are identical except that the EMEA supports the LTE 800mhz frequency. It also wouldn't make sense that the LTE 800mhz frequency would affect the 850HSDPA one, as otherwise they surely wouldn't list support for HSDPA 850 at all. Surely it has to be something to do with the software?
[One (M7) General] Montague:
Hey all, is there any news for handtec's new shippment other than guessing from clove?

and for people who already cancelled their order, how long is the wait for it to go back to your paypal account?

Thanks!
[One (M7) General] takitoes:
Apparently nothing new, but they are going to update us as soon as they have any information about incoming stock.
[One (M7) General] sim_jim:
Htc ****ed up this time !! Supposed to get it in two weeks and now 20+ days waiting for them to update us on another delay for sure !
[One (M7) General] llothar:
Repost from clove topic:

We are contacting you today regarding your order for the HTC One in Black that you have ordered from us.

As you are most likely aware, the HTC One is proving to be a very popular phone and the demand is greater than the current supply.

Originally scheduled for shipping on the 10th April, it is with regret we have to inform you of further delays. We have been informed by HTC that we are unlikely to receive stock of the HTC One in Black until early May.

This is not the news we wish to give out and can only empathise with the situation. We are doing all that we can to dispatch your order as soon as possible.

It is possible that you may be willing to switch to a Silver coloured unit. However we advise that you do not make this request at this time as Silver units are experiencing similar delays.

As and when we have a more accurate shipping date for stock of the Black units we will contact you again.

The Clove Technology Sales Team.
[One (M7) General] inffy:
was expecting somethong liike that :(
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
More BAD news!This confirms the speculations that I made in my previous posts!!! (see below)
[One (M7) General] SecretPup:
I paid with my credit Card. They only blocked the money so it wasn't a hassle so have the order cancelled. I hope to get the money back to my card tomorrow. And as for paypal payments, I remember reading from their tweet the cancellation is instantaneous and the money is returned immediately.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Crap this! Now waiting for a confirmation from handtec. If they do the same then this time I'm gonna cancel my order.
[One (M7) General] inffy:
Just wait for it, it will come.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Created a ticket asking handtec. Hoping for a good reply here. Damn HTC is playing with us. This is gonna be my last HTC phone (>.<)
[One (M7) General] EnIXmA:
Yup, fed up of waiting. HTC is in deep sh*it with s 4 releasing in the coming weeks. I am going to cancel my order too :(
[One (M7) General] charvin96:
handtec.co.uk ‏@handtec 3h

@h4oxer Sorry but do not get figures, over all thou the Silver was in more demand than the black version.

The only saving grace here is that Silver was in more demand than Black. If more people pre-ordered Black, you can bet on many cancellations from that Clove e-mail.
[One (M7) General] llothar:
Handtec have been informed by HTC Distribution that there will be further delays affecting both Black and Silver HTC One pre-orders.

For all customers who have ordered the HTC One 32gb Black we have been informed that this will now be expected towards the end of April-Early May.

At this time HTC One 32gb Silver customers should expect delays until the 22nd/29th April.

Unfortunately no exact date has been given for either device but as soon as we can confirm this we will update the relevant product pages immediately.

The Batch that was expected for this week is no longer due to arrive.

Should you wish to make any changes to your order please email customer services upon the email address below -

- contact@handtec.co.uk.

Handtec apologise for any inconvenience caused and sincerely appreciate your continued patience with this product launch.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
My opinion is that you should not cancel.The short supply is everywhere and based on the demand and the production issues that htc is facing it will take 1 to 2 months everything to return to normal.One is the best HTC phone ever created and in my opinion it is better than S4 and I strongly believe that if HTC had the capacity it will sell far better than samsung s4. Still believe that this phone will be a great hit and will sell great in the near future.

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Ok now I can cry...
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Hi! I am not cancelling to purchase another device. I will be cancelling to purchase the 64gb dev edition instead. Kinda pointless to wait another month for a more expensive & lesser product while I could purchase a cheaper one with a higher storage capacity right? And yeah of course a much earlier release date.
[One (M7) General] scotcruz:
This is scotcruz's wifey posting.. he has been crying after reading this post and very upset that its delayed further :crying::crying::crying:
[One (M7) General] tryfound:
Got my cancellation confirmation just before the above email about the delays, glad I made the right choice. Local pre-order for me it is!
[One (M7) General] Djmk4:
Pissed pissed pissed all those years I full support HTC...and when the things are bad and company need that one to regain the old sweet consumers money...and they just messed up....pre ordered on 26th waiting this week and now end of April.....f****kkkkkkkk :eek:
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Ok then , I wish you better luck :fingers-crossed: with the new pre-order, although you can buy this only from USA and USA phones (and customs) are not very friendly with Europe Carriers plus there is no EU warranty so from me is not an option.
[One (M7) General] scotcruz:
guys, if I am reading this right... the delay is only for the black version or does it affect the Silver one too? My neighbour was at the door earlier saying he received a similar email.. He ordered it from Clove.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Silver is expected from 22th-29th of April.

Clove has also post the same info in their site.
[One (M7) General] h4oxer:
Nice to see my tweet response from handtec. Thinking about cancelling.. this is well.. a crappy release for such an awesome phone..pf
[One (M7) General] neniick:
oke normally I don't get upset whit this kind of **** but now I am really angry. I orderd my black one on the 7th of march, then it got delayed a couple of times but that didn't really bother me since the silver one wasn't shipping either . but now I have to wait 3 more weeks just because i orderd the black one. if I had orderd the silver one I would have it right now. this sucks –_–'
[One (M7) General] ext109:
I know exactly how you feel.. Damn this! I've been calm all of the previous delays but now it's just getting too extreme. It should have been released in march! Why do I have to wait for 2 months for a phone which should have been in my hands just one or two weeks after I ordered? Getting real tired of this **** htc!
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
To me, it appears that HTC wants to stock the phone for other markets..
[One (M7) General] EnIXmA:
So how many people have cancelled their orders, or still waiting till the end of this month?

. please post the date of your order too

Ordered mine on 25th March and have no choice other then to wait ,since freaking Bell is not releasing this phone any time soon.
[One (M7) General] kevinnugent:
I've cancelled mine this morning. Ordered a Black on 11/3. Supposedly another delay being announced today. All carriers will have them here in less than 2 weeks and the warranty will be local - and the price has dropped to the same I paid Handtec. Win win.
[One (M7) General] stoicism:
Just cancelled my order as well, originally ordered March 19. I have very little faith that this thing will be in stock before well into May.

I was super stoked to get this phone...but I'm just a bit disappointed with HTC. I might just wait and see how things go in the next few months and stick with my Nexus4 for the timebeing.
[One (M7) General] zebbi24:
same here just about to cancel.will just wait and see how things pan out.might wait till price drops or wait and see what else will be announced.sucks for htc as the one has heaps going for it but no good if you cant get it to the people.i dont agree with samsungs plastic choice but when your pushing the quantity they are then i guess that is something they have to weigh up for production.ordered black on 4.3.13
[One (M7) General] diffusal:
Received phone yesterday really really good phone good luck to you guys with your orders
[One (M7) General] bobruels44:
Cancelled my Handtec order just in time to scoop up the Last HTC One from PDA plaza :D

Best of luck to you all!
[One (M7) General] Montague:
Sigh, I dont know man, I also pre-ordered mine on rogers canada as well but i dont know am i getting it the 19th.

If im not getting mine from handtec this week i will cancel and might as well wait for rogers.
[One (M7) General] charvin96:
Wasn't that a rather expensive one? I saw 2 yesterday, but hope that they release the Black one on April 26th.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Still crying....:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

It is the same old HTC everytime but everytime they screw their releases! Last year was the crappy HOX with the small battery and the batches of first months a total crap!

Now they have a great phone after many years and they can not cover the demand of the per-orders!!!! It is normal to have some shortages in the first month of the phone but not covering the per-orders it is unbelievable!!!

I will not cancel my pre-order yet.... I will wait a bit but at the end of the month it will be available in my country as well, so I may buy it from here!
[One (M7) General] jagdesh:
I trying to get into the root of this issue, I have been speaking with HTC people and trying to get the truth out of them to find out what exactly is happening here..

Anyways you all know the response from Handtec as of now:

"Thank you for your email. Handtec have been informed by HTC Distribution that there will be further delays meaning customers that have ordered the HTC ONE silvershould expect delays until the 22nd/29th April. Unfortunately no exact date has been given but as soon as we can confirm this we will update the product page immediately.The Batch that was expected for this week is no longer due to arrive. Handtec apologise for any inconvenience caused and sincerly appreciate your continued patience with this product launch. Kind Regards. C While. Handtec customer care."

Now before this response, I have received a response from HTC UK:

"Thank you for your reply.

In regards to your query, I can confirm that at the current time, the HTC One (Silver) is in stock with ourselves and other retailers, so Handtec should now also have the device dependant on their order process. As we are technical support, we are not informed about retailer's orders and suspected delays. I would suggest checking with your retailer now to see if they have stock of this device.

My apologies for any inconvenience caused."

The above email from Handtec has been sent to HTC UK from my end ... lets see what they respond...

Again this might be a shot in the dark but no harm in trying to find out...who knows I might get some answers... I am waiting for stock anyways so till then if I find something more from HTC UK, I will let you guys know.
[One (M7) General] llothar:
It is available with:

- Phones 4u

- Officialhtcstore.com

and that's it. It isn't even available from Expansys which is actually handling the officialhtcstore.com! I think the person you talked to at HTC is misinformed.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
It is also not available in Amazon.co.uk or Amazon.de. Also in Germany sim- free phones will be available after 15th of April (most likely on 19-22th April)

It seems HTC keeps stocks for Carriers and not for SIM free phones.(this happens only for P4U and their official store).
[One (M7) General] mahdibassam:
Does OfficialHTCstore.com ship internationally?
[One (M7) General] llothar:
Good question - delivery options look like they are UK only, but you can select different countries. I e-mailed Expansys (they handle the store) about it but no answer.
[One (M7) General] :
Mine arrived from Handtec today, can also confirm that phone does not work on HSPA 850.
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
T-Mobile UK dont seem to have any stock still..least not in Manchester.
[One (M7) General] Lulabby:
Can I know which country do you live? As I read few people here in Australia also have problem with 850 network.
[One (M7) General] MrCupra:
Your order gets redirected to the country you live in, after you placed the order. And the in stock, isn't true. Expected in 10 days.
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
Interesting info. So even HTC lies with the in stock numbers?(site still reports in Stock)Unbelievable!!

In my country HTC does not have an official store, so if it is redirected how will I receive it? via mail?
[One (M7) General] :No-Frost::
My device should arrive today from Handtec. I've preordered on March 8 and was dispatches last friday. Fedex website says that the order is in Customs at this moment so I will have to pay for it (99% sure) but the order should arrive today to my place according to Fedex.

I live in Chile in South america.
[One (M7) General] mahdibassam:
Well honestly I'm tired of this waiting. I ordered with handtec on 26th, and also ordered today with officialhtcshop.Com. I will wait and see which one ships sooner, and then cancel the other one. This Phone better be worth the waiting!
[One (M7) General] charvin96:
That's a red flag for me... Ordered the Xperia Z from Handtec and it didn't have the 1900 band so it didn't work here in Canada, and now if it doesn't work on 850...
[One (M7) General] bobruels44:
Yes but I want the phone lol