yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ozone tester:
From what I've been told this is by design. "Always connected". What I've found out is that if you power off your device your data connection will drop or make a phone call. M$'s mind set is that you should always be connected.

You should be able to make a call (GPRS is put into suspension) talk hang up and resume your data session.

BTW - I'm running:

ROM version: 4.00.05 ENG

ROM date: 06-05-03

Radio Version: 6.18.00

Protocol version: 324e4

MS PPC Version: 4.20.1081 (Build 13100)

On a US Branded T-Mobile device on the T-Mobile network.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Fabi:
The update worked fine for me... :) thanks a lot!

german T-Mobile MDA

Radio Stack 3.23
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] vbexpert:
Hi, Ozone tester

It seems you are using the latest versin of ROM. Could you please share with us?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Lets post some info that might help some people out

[Posted:Thu Jul 17, 2003 04:34

Post subject: Upgraded T-Mobile to new WM2003 and stuck on boot screen!

I applied the latest NK.nbf file that was available from one of the FTPs listed in the groups and modded it w/ adaptrom. Didn't install right the first time (stuck on Upgrading screen) but I was able to get it to connect w/ Activesync and eventually did install. Seemed to go fine, rebooted and am now stuck on a screen that reads:

Test Only Not for Sale

(Microsoft Windows Powered Logo)

G324e4

R6.18.00

4.00.01

Anyone got any ideas how to get this thing working? I think my next step is to go to CompUSA and buy a PCMCIA SD adapter and start doing the SD flashes....do I have an alternative?

--Mike

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

sheran_g

Hey Mike,

Sorry to hear that your upgrade didn't go well. I have noticed that if you need to install WM2003, or downgrade WM2003, the bootloader flash method is the way to go.

I think that due to the fact that the 2003 ROM is a test/developer edition, they have not really bothered to have proper ROM Upgrade Utility support.

On to CompUSA, I guess...]

Just wondering those of you who have without problems upgraded to the lates 2003 ROM using the upgrade utility please say "I" and what source you used i.e. Aurora13's ftp, Sheran's ftp, lycos.co.uk/xdarom, etc.. and what version you were running prior to upgrading.

Just a little team effort troubleshoot guys :D 8)

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[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
I :)

Using sheran_g's FTP (and is now on my own FTP) updated from WME2003 (3.08)
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] sandyind:
Re: Lets post some info that might help some people out

[/quote]

Used the update utility from the lycos site, upgraded successfully using usb. Downgraded to the o2 ROM after I hit the "band selector option" error, upgraded back again after i figured out the band-selector via bootloader. All using USB cradle on what was (once upon a time) a 'normal' Qtek P1010 with 64 mb ram...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Aurora13 using the bootloader method correct not ROM upgrade utility?

And WME2003 3.0? Just wondering what you mean by this maybe I am missing something I am blond :shock: so it does happens :D but usually when you ref 3.0 it speaks of PPC2002 and back. The new base is 4.x

I just want to make sure my little blond head is getting it :mrgreen:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Re: Lets post some info that might help some people out

Thanks! sandyind. I personally like the SD approach I think it is cleaner, however this is good news for all those who don't have this as an option or just want a plug and go option.

I havent done the latest upgrade yet I am still going through the ROM & Reg making copies so I can add things in from the O2-WME2003 image if I want to. i.e. pac-man or reg edits that have been changed between versions that "I don't like" :evil: . i.e. lame SMS Voicemail notification crap :shock: :x . For me that's a problem.

I am running one of the first T-Mo PPCPE hardware, with an AT&T radio stack, and WME2003(O2 vers) on US Cingular's GSM Network :roll: Don't even think about buying a CDMA device you would NEVER be able to do this :shock: GSM/SIM tech rocks :P I think in the long run GSM will win out or some GSM/WCDMA combo, or simple devices that scan & switch what ever the network. Take a look at Texas Inst' WANDA device for an example. Note: this last part should be in another thread, as not to get us gabbing about that. Sorry :roll:

Cheers,

E.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
@erickbryce

The first 'release' here of WME2003 had rom version 3.0.8 (the Ozone one) or something, the new one has 4.x. Also the forum changed the last part to a smilie :)

But both were 2003 so hope your blond head is getting it now :lol:

And I did it the bootloader way. I agree with you that it is much better than the 'upgrade' way.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] beeheij:
I have downloaded WM2003 from lycos last night, upgraded the ROM successfully. But in SMS, I found that “+” sign in the phone number for the recipient was missing,and the SMS could not be sent without correcting it first.. My Battery Pack v5 did not work.

Now I am back to SER1.2.

Did anyone experience the same problem? Where did I go wrong? Please help.

Before:

ROM 3.17.03ENG (from XDA Dev SER 1.2)

Radio 4.21.00

After:

ROM 4.00.0? (I am not sure what I had, but downloaded from Lycos last night)

Radio 4.21.00

I upgraded using the .bat file provided.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Aurora13 :mrgreen:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
I have both the exe and the nbf files on my FTP so you can choose which method you like.

@ozone tester

Can you share your ROM since it is newer the the one we now have?!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] sandyind:
Re: Lets post some info that might help some people out

Thanks! sandyind. I personally like the SD approach I think it is cleaner, however this is good news for all those who don't have this as an option or just want a plug and go option.

Don't even think about buying a CDMA device you would NEVER be able to do this :shock: GSM/SIM tech rocks :P I think in the long run GSM will win out or some GSM/WCDMA combo, or simple devices that scan & switch what ever the network.

Eric

1. I travel around quite a bit so I havent really bothered to get myself an SD Card writer. Will do so - one of these days... Carry my USB Cradle around ever since I tried upgrading to XDA-Developers SE Ver 1 and got into a lot of trouble as I couldnt sync using my serial cable or IR, nor could I flash back to the Qtek ROM. Finally had to get the USB flown down.

2. CDMA is a more efficient technology in terms of bandwidth usage (and hence you are able to get better speeds at least theoretically). However, GSM is much more user-friendly. So I guess your prediction will come true - it had better, because I earn my living out of GSM...

Despite all its quirks and the relatively smaller screen, I still feel the Sony Ericsson P800 has better GPRS capabilities than any version of the XDA. If only the XDA had the stability and GSM/GPRS strengths of the P800...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
Setting band under phone options 900/1900

The WM2003 from: lycos.co.uk/xdarom(.bat file)

To Aurora13

I try all the time as you say: click power button, soft reset, calendar button

for changing phone band to 900-but no effect :oops:

I do not know what can I do now -my XDA no phone-no service, no activesync

So sat :cry:

ROM version: 4.00.01 ENG

ROM date: 05-16-03

Radio Version: 4.21.00

Protocol version: 32S54

Please,Somebody can help me?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
Back up to SER1.2.

To beeheij

Please, how you can back up your XDA to SER1.2??

Thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
@van

What if you change it to 900/1800?!?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] PhoneGuy:
executable?

Has anyone created an idoit proof executable PPCPE2003 ROM upgrade?

Nevermind...

Duh, I figured it out...
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] mouseman:
Download PPC2003 ROM in .EXE file?

Hallo,

please help me! Find download .exe file with ROM PPC2003 for XDA.

Thank you.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] PhoneGuy:
Hangs on "Test Only" splash page on soft resets...

I succesfully installed the nk.nbf ROM 4.00.01 w/ R6.18.00

Worked like a charm phone works, GPRS works etc.

Untill I do a soft reset then it hangs on the splash screen. I have to do a hard reset to get it back.

Any clues??
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] max me up:
ozone tester wrote:

Just appealing to Ozone to please share his ROM as its the latest one availiable!! :lol:

Max
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] beeheij:
Van,

It seems your problem is exactly like mine.

Your question: “How did I get back to XDA Dev SER 1.2?”

I did it by running the XDA-developers-SER-v121.exe file that I got it from somewhere (I’ve forgotten already, but was directed by this forum too).

I also tried to change the radio setting 900/1800 thru boot-loader way (power button + reset), but it was unsuccessful. I got stuck and I pressed hard-reset button. I was lucky not to damage the boot loader at all. During all those time, my connection to my PC thru USB was still OK though. (I advise you not to play around with the Radio part, we are basically stuck with Radio 4.21.00 at present).

I hope my explanation helps. Let me know if I could be of assistance further.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
No

To Aurora13

"What if you change it to 900/1800?!?"

:oops: I had click power off+soft reset then calendar button but no band 900/1800 appeared only calendar program :shock:

To beeheij

I have already the XDA-developers-SER-v121.exe file in my PC

but I do not know how to setup to my XDA because my activesync no working at all

I can take another XDA from my friend but how to do -back to original ROM or XDA-developers-SER-v121 I do not know :oops:

Please tell me more detail...

Thanks in advance
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
Only Calendar program showed up? Then you weren't in bootloader!

Press and HOLD the power button and press the reset switch (while stil holding the power button.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
My mistake

Dear Aurora13 & beeheij

In the end, I had successful changed band 900/1800, my mistake – to choose 900/1800 band but I did not HOLD the JOYSTICK for confirmation of the selected band then soft reset

My XDA now is working fine with SMS :lol: :?:

Thanks for your advices

Aurora13 wrote:

PS My FTP is working correctly again, so if some of you guys and girls still don't have it:

ftp://195.64.88.44

User: xda

PWD: xda

Please, is this ROM newer than my ROM? :?:

My ROM version: 4.00.01 ENG

ROM date: 05-16-03
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Aurora13:
Nope it is the same one you already have.

Ozone tester should have the new one, but hasn't replied yet.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
WM2003 and PPC 2002

My XDA

WB2003

ROM date 4.00.01

Radio version 4.21.00

Protocol version 32S54

Almost specifications better than PPC2002 but :( :

The radio wave GSM is not stable ( indicator)

Sound volume is lowered

No polyphony

No power point ( Have to buy slide show)

Limited java for web

Some software not compatible

No indicator of the battery and RAM in the screen :?: …

Your opinions
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Van you mentioned Sound volume is lowered. I noticed this over all in WME2003 from fist version avail. Just want to clarify. Are you experiencing that the sound volume is even lower than the previous 2003 version? What version were you running previously?

Thanks :P
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
I think that, my previous version- ROM developers-SER-v1.2 had better sound volume

We have to wait the ROM developers for WM2003

:?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] drchow:
issues with WM2003

I dont know if I screwed myself over.

I first flashed my T-mobile PPCPE first with the ATT ROM including radio but I didn't make any changes or selections to the always-on radio or anything.

I then proceeded to flash my phone with Wm2003 release 4.00.01. Everything works fine but seems sluggish, then I flashed to OZONE 3.0.4, it's not sluggish anymore.

Question:

Does the Wm2003 update contain a new radio version?

What happened to the ATT always-on select for the radio in control panels from the att ROM update?

Anyone have any ideas?

Dave
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ARZLEB:
I have just one question for those of you using GPRS how are you d/c the GPRS connection?!?!?!??!?! :?: :!: :?: :!:

There is no d/c button in buble, with PPC2202 Email when i used to click send & receive it would connect to GPRS send and revceive then d/c now with WM2003 it remains on! Ohhh and dont tell me its part of GPRS always on! at least or the sake of my battery life let it be a d/c button...

Has anyone experienced this yet? found a solution or its a bug in my device alone!

HELPPPP - TEST ONLY NOT FOR SALE is screwing with my head

:evil:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] yorkie-7:
Ok, having unistalled PCC2003, missing it for, oh about 12 hours I reinstalled it to see that could be done. Here are some findings...

I still have the Activsync problem i.e. not connecting, a way around this is a soft reset, but I have to say it does not do this as often as when I first installed it?!?!

Still have the poor radio signal, this one's a strange one though, anyone know why the signal is so poor? One though I had was that the radio part no longer recieves as much power now, seems strange but it's one theory.

I can't comment on GPRS as I don't use it, I get free WAP with O2 so I'd rather do things a bit slower than have to pay extra! I've had no problems using WAP though.

I have also had no problems using Battery Pack 2003, as I recall it has never been able to close the phone app. under PCC2002. I recommened that anyone using Battery Pack has the close button set to `Tap and hold` rather than `kill` otherwise in the phone app. you'll just be going round in circles!

I've notised also that the sound level is lower, however I believe this as a result of better sound quality, under normal usage I have notised that I can hear it better now when the phone rings in busy curcumstances, this could just be me!

One other thing.

Where did this version come from? I've notised that there is NO O2 software within the rom which leads me to believe that this is not a test version from O2/HTC otherwise there would be some softwere i.e. ezwap, Action Update, myo2 etc. Looks to me like a bog standard `clean` version of PCC2003 direct from Microsoft. According to my phone I'm connected to BT Genie, those were the days!
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Fadyco:
I am also having a problem with signal strength. I'm running Rom 4.00.01 and Radio 4.21.00 and signal is less than half of what it used to be under previous developer version 1.2.

Battery Pack is smooth except for not closing the phone app.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] barjohn:
The signal strength meter is lower but the connection is actually better-go figure! I get a connection in places that I did not before yet the power meter shows only a very weak signal.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] PhoneGuy:
That's exactly what I am seeing here in Tampa Bay.

ROM 4.00.01

RS 6.18.00

T-Mo PPC on T-Mo USA
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
Hey those of you that didn't have trouble using the upgrade utility what version were you running before? I just tried to upgrade from 1st version of WME2003 to the latest using the upgrade utility, no go. Goes into upgrade mode on PC & PPC, then progress bar screen on PPC goes to white, a few minutes later a error pop-up on PC telling me to reset & run utility again. When I do so same problem. I'm just curious what version on Activesync are you running & on OS on the Desktop.

Thanks.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] barjohn:
Used the SD card bootloader method of updating from O2 version to 4.00.01 version. You must use Active Sync 3.7 with 2003. Did not and have nto had any serious problems.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Grim_Evil:
anyone got the correct setting for 02 UK grps etc, I copied all mine from my ppc2002 rom, but it dont work:(, I must of missed something?

anyone been able to connect with 02 uk grps with the ppc2003 rom?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] erickbryce:
barjohn thanks it is my pref method, but I just wanted to see if it was really that easy. Seems it should be in the future.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ianlake:
i'm stuck as well. so much so in fact that i've gone back to ver 1.2. i have made some enquiries at sourceO2.com but as the forum is run by O2 it takes forever to post and i've yet to see one of my messages, perhaps its because i keep sending people here for advice.

ian
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] van:
I love XDA and have been using for 11 months with diff. ROM version and WM2003 -one of the best even thought existed some bugs

A week ago give me another one Samsung i 700, I like it but have to use CDMA - not so popular in Viet nam

Maybe waiting for XDA2 or new ROM 2003 upgraded from Developers for old XDA? When?

Somebody know app. time?

Thanks,
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ozsmac:
Just to confirm that my GPRS settings for Vodafone UK work just find with the 2003 rom.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] aoconn:
:(

could anybody tell me where to get either ppc 2003 or windows mobile 2003 for the xda.

whats the difference

thanks
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Qman:
The download location has been posted in this thread, just scroll up to about the third post and you'll find it! :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] beeheij:
aocon

or get the *.exe file from below:

http://xda-developers.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=1842
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] aoconn:
thanks guys

but what is the difference with ppc 2003 & wm 2003

and is it safe to load

does either have bluetooth support

can i restore a back up

any advice would be good

regards

:D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] yorkie-7:
There is no difference between PCC 2003 and WM2003, there one and the same thing. It's a case of old habits die hard. Microsoft renamed it to WM 2003 to bring it in line with other stuff and go for a more uniformed name for things (I think I read that somewhere!). As for Bluetooth, yes it does support it but the XDA does not so it's a bit of a none event really. IMO it is safe to load but others have had problems.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Jenne B:
Hi,

I`ve finally did it...upgrade my german xda with PPC2003.

Everything works fine, but I`m not longer able to acess my MMC-Card with the xda. My SD-Card works fine.

Dos this mean PPC2003 no longer works with the old MMC-Standard?

Anyone here can confirm this?

Greets

Jenne B
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] sheran_g:
I've done my upgrade with an MMC card and have had no problems like the ones you describe. Was the card formatted by the XDA correctly?
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Jenne B:
I`ve upgraded via the exe File and the synch-station.

I`ve tried to go to the storage-Card via the File-Explorer, but the card don`t show up there.

When I insert my SD-Card, it is shown immediately as Storage-Card.

I can acess the MMC via my Card-Reader on the PC, so she could be ok.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] seal:
HI, I am in Australia and just did the upgrade ROM version 4.00.01 ENG and have the same problem, I can't acess SD card, it just doesn't show up in explorer, even when you hit explore in ActiveSync on PC it does't show. Any ideas.

Can't work out GPRS as it seems so different to 2002, don't really use GPRS but just hate when something doesn't work.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Jenne B:
Hi,

my guess is, that PPC2003 doesn`t support all Cards, because another MMC-Card I try, did show up in the explorer.

Because I want to use my 128MB MMC-Card, I have downgraded to the SE1.2, and voila...my MMC-Card was back in the explorer.

My MMC-Card is a No-Name product, so I think that`s a reason for the strange behavior.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] kevin.beecher:
mmc

hi guys

i have ppc 2003 and it sees my mmc card all the time i also use this card on my digitial camera and it picks up the photos no problem.

regards kevin beecher
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] rb7smutje:
can you share this version?

Thanks.

Regards,

smutje
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] seal:
seems stupid but I reformated the card on PC in card reader and then the phone saw the MMC no worries.

Hope this helps
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] :
i installed it too a few days ago on a german MDA. Overall impression: very nice, especialy the little extra details in INBOX are very useful.

one drawback:

- activesync 3.7 has problems syncronising. it's not recognising a device most of the time. any similar experiences?

plus the known stuff:

- battery bar is no longer working

- journal bar is working but is not syncronising.

cheers

woody
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] yorkie-7:
OmegaOne have released a new version of Journal Bar that is now fully compatable with PCC2003.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] :
yorkie-7, thanks for the info.

i checked out handango where i purchased my copies. battery pack really works now. journal bar however is still not syncronising... the version i installed is 1.3.1.

is it working with everybody else?

thx
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] ycneosg:
1.3.1 working on my wm2003 (rom version 4.00.01).

Another apps Mobimate Worldmate 3.5 has the similar problem, can run but cannot synchronize currency and weather info. the newest version 4.0 can only be updated thru activesync but not thru the update button in the program.
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] seal:
Rom 40005

We all need Rom 40005, I am looking as much as I can and hopefully it will turn up soon, we all need that test screen gone.

And maybe it will be alittle more stable
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Quan:
Where can I download WM2003 ROM version 4.00.05?

I saw it once available on O2 site but now... nope

Quan
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] seal:
From what I read O2 UK was offering the Rom 4.00.05 and Radio for O2 staff and Partners for testing only, it was not to be released to O2 customers or the public.

It is a terrible thing but it will get out some where soon....
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] beeheij:
Hi,

Go to ROM Kitchen forum. You will find everything there.

:D :D :D :D :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] seal:
Yeh thats if you have a Linux machine and have an idea what your doing.

I only have a xp running at the moment, will try linux on other PC.

Thanks for suggestion though, I am alittle behind. Have gone over my download quota, but it nearly the end of the month so I will download Linux in August and then follow the forum for help.

I have the XDA-Developers rom 1.2 based on Rom 3.17.03 ENG and it is all right if you came from 2002 but I downgraded form 2003 so it was abit of a shock. 2003 has those little things that make everyday use more user friendly. The XDA-Developers rom 1.2 has so many great apps but I do not tend to make registry entries and tweaks so I am more interested in if my SMS was sent which 2002 just doesn't bother telling you, and all the other new things it offers.

For those people that have the rom kitchen, is there a 2003 rom version that has been done by the developers.

Please don't get me wrong, the developers made the 2002 version better than I ever imagined but as I said I was comparing to 2003 which I am sure they will make brilliant as well.

:lol: :D
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] Yorch:
no, if you read along, only the machine that has the "kitchen" needs to be Linux, users that need a ROM, (like you), can go to the kitchen and cook yourself some ROM. There is one link for a working kitchen in that thread. USE YOUR SEARCH FUNCTION
[MDA, XDA, 1010 Software Upgrading] nen77:
i can find a link for downloading wm2003 for xda1

i can find a link for downloading wm2003 for xda1

please help

alll link are not working