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[General Topics] doctor-who:
I agree that mobogenie is virus under thick mask! I'm right now not using any of "antivirus" ""protections""

But! I found one useful app which can be treated like good informative tool and yeah..can detect harmful apps

It's called Avl pro on playstore and it's totally free.. I don't suggest that app intentionally just take a look guys :) and girls :D
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Thanks i'll look later today :)
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
So if antivirus is needed, then which antivirus app has "least" battery drain?
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Neither one.

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[General Topics] doctor-who:
:P i dont agree, checked AVL Pro? :D
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Lol it's all fake, where they are talking about needs at least root.

And they aren't asking for that so it's just bull**** [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

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[General Topics] Ltdrev:
My boss is convinced that he's safe being totally wreckless trying every apk he can find because he's paying for Avast AV and he will preach you all day long about the ignorants who don't use AV on android: he reads Cnet & co a lot ... But first thing I see on his device: mobogenie everywhere ! Yeah pretty depressing
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Hahhaa you see it's just bull**** hahha all that AV for Android

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[General Topics] Ltdrev:
Yeap but you know its not always easy for normal users to see the light some BS geniuses at the apple store are surfing this wave; how many times I've heard so many ppls said to me that they bought an iPhone because the guy a the istore told em Android was full of viruses!
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Just because he is using them will slow down his phone.

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[General Topics] doctor-who:
I don't using any but look on this way, many times I have downloaded some apps from somewhere and not sure is they safe or not, most of them was damn dangerous (for my balance) so used avl to scan it. Now when I have all what I need from apps no need antivirus anymore. Anyway im also against antivirus for android. All is in manifest and every app just unpack an can see is it or not dangerous :beer:
[General Topics] enapah:
I personally don't use a (resident) AV even in Windows (I do have on-demand ones -- plural --, mid you), so I guess it's no wonder that I just don't see the point of having one in my phone (other than to drain the battery much faster and take away precious CPU power).

Security has become too much of a business, so much that people are being lured into all kinds of security applications with nothing more than old business scare tactics.

I'm not saying this products are useless, because they certainly are not. Still, in a sense, they are doing more harm than good. They give you a sense that "you are secure" when in reality you are hopelessly insecure against many new (specially tailored) threats that never go mainstream.
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Agree +1

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Yes Android device really need antivirus

Android is a open OS, for external hacker, its very easy to spy your phone if don't have an antivirus
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
No because there is no working antivirus for Android.
[General Topics] Ltdrev:
Or the not so empty shell that antivirus/firewall are can itself contain any 'malicious' code of any kind have all the permissions in the world even the firewall 'required' root access to re-write anything as the implemented code wishes ... Yehahhh! :eek:
[General Topics] Fe014:
i don't think so :silly:
[General Topics] Musti14:
My opinion too :)
[General Topics] tpgugezhanghu:
Is usually not necessary
[General Topics] AS16:
I think this is up to each one.. Depends on how do you use your mobile... For example I have Avast because I usually download apps from other markets such as Blackmart, Aptoide or F-droid, an also from the net so I don't trust all the apps are clean.

If you don't use anything except the playstore, and you don't download files from anywere, you don't have to use one
[General Topics] doctor-who:
I agree. Just for that. But avast is my choice only one part of it, avast anti theft ;)
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Hmm i use theftie for anti theft on android or cerberus.

But Avast is good for my PC ;)

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[General Topics] doctor-who:
Avast anti theft installs into rom and stays there ;)

Hard to disable it. Try it
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
I don't want virus companies in my root ;)

Hehhehe

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[General Topics] doctor-who:
Why? Hiding something? :D
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Those companies are big thiefs i don't trust them ;)

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[General Topics] springning:
I said "Yes", cuz smartphones are more likely to be invaded by virus. I use 360
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
this app jus came out https://github.com/darshakframework/darshak/ detects sms suspicious activity but works for S3 only at the moment for those worried about someone tracking you with the "Silent sms" technique.
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No, as long as you're careful and make sure to check the app permissions before even thinking about installing an app.

Like, for an example, I would never ever install a game which can send textmessages and make calls. Would you?
[General Topics] promo87:
Well, I think you may need to have a look at this post Does an Android Smartphone really need antivirus? :D I am sure for most of the user out there it can help you out in deciding the need of Antivirus.
[General Topics] Editie:
Ive never used one but just be careful really :) then youll be fine
[General Topics] tee00max:
No. Waste of time and internal storage. Never had one and I have had over 20+ android phones.
[General Topics] carlbreen:
I use Avast because it has a nice firewall to block apps that don't really need to online.
[General Topics] kuzkotopia:
hum, i don't really needed one and i still think i don't need it... but i use bitdefender, i find the app pretty well designed and is not a ressource hog .. so i keep it, but it never detected anything except some adwares...
[General Topics] net8:
I think, if unknown sources are enabled, and if the device is rooted, it will be a open ground for any exploit to the personal information, as well as to the android system. It is always good to keep anti virus like netquin etc to monitor. Even though there are no threats reported, it is easily possible to any developer to put a malicious code, sign the apk and distribute in the web for installation. By minimizing the possibility, we can feel little more secure.

But for those who install roms several times, it is not worth. If you want performance, and if you use apps only from play store, there will be no need to install antivirus. I think there will be no problem at all.
[General Topics] Ltdrev:
Yes and selinux is supposed to solves this (hu-hum...) But are we better off to keep secure info somewhere else in the qnx or apple (examples) closed source universe ?!

Is it really better ?

Who do we have to fear the most realistically? A 15 yrs old hacker? Mobogenie alike? Credit card thieves? Marketer? Or in some country government, interest groups, 'morality' police etc ?

Depending who on that list is your worst nightmare there's maybe no reasonable way to escape it aside pulling off the switch totally since the real problems of securing data is often with the structure of your government regulated ISP's if not regulated it may be even worse in the form of a real free for all without any limitations in some 3rd world regions.
[General Topics] doctor-who:
For mobogenie I knew it from start that is something stinky there. So whoever installed that **** he deserve it because that was obviously
[General Topics] wecaz:
I want performance. I don't try apps from unknown sources. I think I am better away from antiviruses. :D
[General Topics] remeic:
I think it does not serve any antivirus, do not use it even on PC, just a bit of common sense and brains to avoid trouble, then I think it also depends on who can use this device
[General Topics] |>/\nte:
If somebody with a rooted phone doesn't know exactly what he's downloading/opening, then he might need an antivirus app, but I don't think the time we need an antivirus on our phones has come.
[General Topics] veldom:
About every 2 month i just:

Install an anti-virus app.

Scan my device.

Uninstall it.
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
So every two months is some company gathering all your data ;)

November/December will my HTC One M8 arrive !
[General Topics] riksweeney:
You only need an anti virus if you're downloading hacks of commercial apps off dodgy websites.

If you're just downloading stuff off the Play Store, you'll be pretty safe. It's more about common sense than anything else.

If you have children, then there are plenty of apps which can stop them from trying to install from unknown sources.
[General Topics] methuselah:
Wastage of money

well antivirus on any android is wastage of resources as in the beginning of this threat this is told that some antivirus provide some nice anti theft features but at the cost of the performance and battery. android has sandbox technology. i mean nobody often see what they are going to install the permissions used by the apps. but in 4.4.4 the google has changed the api that makes backdoor for rouge apps to falsify the permissions. but on xda this problem can be sorted out if you have root via mod(don't remember exactly). Well long ago a google top executive has also criticized antivirus companies for putting antivirus apps on android...but if you are rooted than make sure that you don't install apps unnecessarily from outside play store, also make sure that permissions before installing. use xguard and other apps to make yourself secure.:good:
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
I recommend everyone the Xposed module "Xprivacy" just enable and disable permissions that you trust or don't trust for an app.

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[General Topics] predator120480:
I think in the future we will need antivirus software, because in the future all will be mobile based, and there are people who want benefit of it.
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
In the future will also the security be improved to avoid virusses ;)

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[General Topics] kher paandiyan:
not needed as it may use much of ur ram and drains battery, if u feel unsecured use CM security or 360 security..
[General Topics] xnv:
There is only one case when user needs AV app: he is inexperienced.
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[MENTION=6045703]xnv[/MENTION], I agree. Unless you're a newbie to Android, an antivirus program is just a waste of money (if you paid for it) and/or a waste of device memory.
[General Topics] Gill555:
I think so
[General Topics] Marton1:
I only use adaway. And no problems so far.
[General Topics] ironia.:
why not?

regarding the ram....on a phone with 2 gb....av do nothing...

there are a lot of free av
[General Topics] doctor-who:
with latest update of gogle play services theres no antivirus to help! :D 1 off topic question, how to completely remove gapps? Akk apps related to google i mean
[General Topics] rumasta:
Why ? just wasting inner storage and always stanby decreasing battery life.
[General Topics] rhmsoft:
If you are downloading apps from Google Play, I think it is safe and do not need anti-virus apps.

But if you are installing apps directly from website, I think it is a bit more dangerous.

The apps may leak your privacy information (contacts, sms, photos, etc) and request some unnecessary permissions.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
the problem is some people can be "tricked" into downloading an apk app from a website. eg latest new Android sms malware exploit ransomware http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-koler-turns-into-a-worm-spreads-via-sms.html if u get this AFAIK you should poweroff & reboot in safe mode, and while in safe mode uninstall the rogue IMG_7821apk. and of course do not install apps from unknown sources.
[General Topics] gastonemartinez:
I think it's only usefull for phishing
[General Topics] padala:
] Do we really need an antivirus app on android? Attention required.

have never used any anti virus app on my phone! i don't feel the need! They run 24x7 in the background which is quite annoying! instead i avoid such web links, apps on play store or third party apps which are suspicious! i agree that a little common sense can save you and your smartphone from such viruses and anti viruses too
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Maybe for getting phished but not for protection against it my friend.

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[General Topics] jesusprice:
Only if you downloading random apk files from warez sites
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
only problem with antivirus is battery drain... usually i install antivirus, then scan, then uninstall, every couple weeks. alot antivirus just check for rogue apks and don't do anti-phishing.
[General Topics] jmindset:
Exactly what I do

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[General Topics] SIDOVSKY:
Antivirus is useless for android. Ive used android for a long time and got no viruses so far. I think that strange apps are easy to be recognized without an AV.
[General Topics] MrSurvivalcraft:
I've never had issue with virus on Android but what about other stuff personal data, information, passwords, l@unch c0des, saved files, etc. Can't be like spied on or stolen?

Also I have anti virus but been thinking it doesn't do anything but clear Google Brower and slow my phone down...
[General Topics] PalmCentro:
I had a friend that called me he was freaked out cuz he downloaded a **** app and it was a hijacking app saying that the FBI needs from him $3000 in order to clear charges, anyway I cleaned it for him,

But this is not what I want to say!! This guy had two anti virus apps running on his phone and they didn't detect it!!

.....
[General Topics] jason-tech-uk:
Hey,

If you are just running the standard software, I don't feel you'd need any Antivirus apps installed on your phone. I mean a lot of people root their devices and then are able to download apps, games, films from the internet and put them on their handset, but I'm not one of them. My brother on the other hand always roots his handset, but again I don't think he's got Antivirus apps on his Note 3. It's basically the same as when you get a PC....if you go on untrusted websites and download programs without knowing if the website is trusted, then likely chance is that you are going to get a virus.

Anyway this is just my personal opinion with this.
[General Topics] mhed2002:
For me I don't..

I don't believe that anything could make you of needing an antivirus because

1- if the app is from trusted source and well known aka : from Google play

2- if the app was needed isn't from Google play checking the permissions because a simple game that doesn't have ads or it don't need internet connection wouldn't need let say... Full network access

In short just use your common sense and you wouldn't need an antivirus
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
After the Snowden revelations, and listening to a few devs on Blackhat, I am more inclined to use a good antivirus more frequently. Seems even some carriers and also apps on Google play have vulnerabilities. Just Look at the xda 'security forum' for some examples of vulnerabilities of everyday apps on google play. Makes you wonder what other vulnerabilities that we dont know about...also now there is more 'sms hijacking' where after downloading an innocent app , a hacker/rogue user , can turn your phone to a voice recorder and video recorder and download all your files, without your knowledge...many examples is performed on youtube, so its not like what i thought was fantasy stuff. Its real. And now.
[General Topics] muraliaggithaya:
Generally a good idea to keep one...

An antivirus app doesn't really mean it serves only for the virus protection service. I use one because for the fact that it gives me alot of features such as anti-theft, app lock, family locate; all in one app. So that means I need not install alot of apps for my various needs. A good anti-virus is always preferred in an android phone especially if you install alot of junk apps from source other than playstore.
[General Topics] xguyss:
For security reason, the answer is yes, our android needs an antivirus. It is because android has been developed well nowadays, and be promising target to get benefits from it in bad or good ways.
[General Topics] RandomUser017:
Don't use an AV, it won't help unless you are downloading cracked versions of APKs (They often have malware/adware packed in the APK). And yes your data can be stolen. You just need to set the privacy settings for each app to deny access to personal data. But passwords won't be stolen by apps. I recommend not to download APKs outside the Play Store.
[General Topics] JaydenKick9:
For the couple of years that I've had my Galaxy S4, I've only ever used antivirus programs to scan my phone. Once the scan is complete, I tend to uninstall the app. Haven't had any trouble yet so far...

...that I know of, at least.
[General Topics] RandomUser017:
Almost every app has the right to copy, delete and edit files on your SD Card.

I know spy-software. I compiled the spy-software into the .apk and I managed to spy on my phone: take screenshots, copy, delete and edit files, record audio, open camera etc.

And no AV program on my phone has detected the malicious app.

Android isn't safe and there aren't any good AV programs.
[General Topics] SirMika:
I have only Malwarebytes app which I run like once a week. It discover only one malware file so far. But I download stuff from reliable sources.. Dunno exactly how good this Malwarebytes app is..

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[General Topics] teancum144:
My friend got a virus on her S6

Just recently, a friend got a virus on her Galaxy S6 from browsing via Chrome to her local CrossFit site, which is as follows:

http://brandonevenson.com/

She is not very tech savvy and browsed to the site on her iPad without getting the virus. This made her feel like Apple products are more secure than Android products. She converted from an iPhone to the S6, but is still within the 14 day exchange period. She's thinking about going back to the iPhone.

Users of this site tend to be more tech savvy and careful than the average user. Do you think antivirus software is good for the less tech savvy user? If so which AV software is recommended? I just downloaded ESET to try it out. Thoughts?
[General Topics] Eriksson1013:
I don't use any antivirus. It is no necessary. But in order to protect your devices, try not to download a program from iffy Websites or open unsolicited email attachments.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
i feel that an Anti-virus scan is good every now and then. i do a scan then I use Titanium backup to freeze the antivirus app after so it doesn't hog memory. last time i did a scan the antivirus discovered an app which had a vulnerability. not bad.
[General Topics] simonbigwave:
the problem is when you need to download a pdf or file and you don't jbow that the website you are on has been hacked or infected already. so for me an Anti-virus is useful especially when scanning a file for virus or malware, before opening.
[General Topics] zombunny:
I guess it depends on the user. If you know what you're doing, then you likely don't need it. If you're unfamiliar with apks, where to get safe ones, what to be careful of, opening MMS from random people you don't know, etc etc, you probably need one.

I don't use them because they slow down the device, imo.
[General Topics] ThorDevs:
No, i think they are a batery waste, the best antivirus is you, you just need be carefully.
[General Topics] khan1996:
NO

Honestly speaking, my mobile was secure only when there wasn't any Anti virus installed. After few months, my phone was funcitoning slow (might be because of lack of memory ), so I thought of installing the anti-virus software. You won't believe me, soon after few days I installed, my phone got worst ! It started lagging, functioning more slower (this happened with my laptop too). I don't know why I thought of removing the antivirus app later and my phone was back to normal stage!

Are the anti-virus companies sending some kind of virus so that the users might attract towards themselves and gain more downloads? Or the virus these days are much more powerful than before? :P

I would suggest you to download avast ... give it a try... ;)
[General Topics] OnlyGames:
Yep, I thought I would never need it but I just blindly downloaded loads of garbage, I'm afraid. So now I do need an antivirus app :(
[General Topics] Yamcha67:
I've never really used one. Just keep an eye on what apps you're installing and if those sources are legit.

I did try the scans a few times, even on apps I downloaded from questionable sources :p. But never had any issues with regards to viruses..
[General Topics] cyrrel:
I've had one a couple of years ago, but I guess in most cases using your intention is sufficient - as of now.

That might change but for now I think you are good to go w/o a special AV software, as long as you don't download suspicious stuff? :)
[General Topics] Tyga187:
I used one and it was a huge battery drainer.
[General Topics] PAiiN:
Im using 360 AV

But actually im only using the cleaner function
[General Topics] puzzle29:
I use avast and it need not much battery.

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[General Topics] sfyndle:
T Mobile has lookout Security for being with their jump program. I have that, also have adaway from custom Rom. After reading through this, I think I will disable some features with lookout and see if there is any increase in battery life.
[General Topics] android_fen:
never used one and up till now never had problems,just be careful of what you download from internet :good:
[General Topics] alokesh985:
I believe antivirus itself acts like a virus
[General Topics] PlayHunter:
I'm using CM Security and seems to do a great job. It can help you lock applications, clean your private data, clean up leftovers from various installers and warn you about viruses. By the way, I've got one virus after installing a video player from google play. So yes, I guess we need security on our phones.
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I don't think we need Antivirus on it. But Cleaner will be a different case.
[General Topics] chowhk:
i've never used it, only firewall installed in my phone
[General Topics] WooperZ:
I don't think so, never had one.
[General Topics] osrdek:
I've never used one. Just install apps from legit sources and you be fine.
[General Topics] Azim Javed:
Antiviruses only slow down our budget devices.. No other use ??
[General Topics] EdwardSmith36:
Yeah, I think one should an security app in their device. Actually, it really depends on your use.
[General Topics] NBAres8:
no way jose
[General Topics] BrainBooster:
i think the battle against the viruses is a lost battle, the real virus is the one who installs it;)
[General Topics] eordetxl:
use a lot of ram

i think it just use a lot of ram..
[General Topics] Kidrock1114:
Don't use any anti virus.it makes your phone laggy getting android phone battery hot consuming too much cpu/ram.and they have more ads app to download. Eating more data.
[General Topics] rian_tama:
I think no