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[Xperia Z General] Michealtbh:
I have, it was a Nexus 4 though
[Xperia Z General] SmallsXD:
No one knows pain like an LG optimus 2x owner our phones got ICS in December/January? I cant even bother to remember...
[Xperia Z General] Jonfensu:
ZOMG from NeoGaf Forum said:
[Xperia Z General] Lemagex:
Got that right. This is more annoying than when i had to wait for gingerbread to roll out on my HTC Desire from Telstra. Nearly as bad as the wait for 4.1 on the one XL.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
what is a brown device?
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Sounds like beta-testers or something
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Developers phone.
[Xperia Z General] Sticky F:
Well if you are in the UK and an O2 user we'll get this early 2014 going by their turnarounds
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
4.2 tomorrow guys
[Xperia Z General] :
yea right
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
seriously?
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
as serious as .307 coming out tomorrow! LMAO
[Xperia Z General] Andrewtst:
Sony better concentrate and release 4.2.2, v.307 base on 4.1.2 can just direct pass it. No need continue tune the 4.1.2 version.

Is time release 4.2.2....

Later release phone HTC One already get 4.2.2 for USA and global version next 2 weeks. S4 origin start from 4.2.2

Where is Sony now? Your soon after release is far than soon by now, it is few months already, still didn't seen any thing base on 4.2.2 yet!
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
Let's try f...ing their head on twitter asking about the update..while we're waiting
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
End of the year will be soon for Sony, based on previous experience :eek:
[Xperia Z General] irmani:
i'm disappointed already my purchase of XZ :p
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
There is nothing interesting in 4.2.2 that would make the update 'just for the OS' worth it. Sony is however preparing a lot of fun stuff that will probably be released together with the 4.2.2 update. Since they are in no hurry to release 4.2.2 (which is ready and stable), they're waiting for the other new projects to be finished.

This includes, for example, the integration of Music Unlimited in the Walkman app. And some other fun stuff. Probably also the launcher with transparent notification bar/softkeys.
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
not sure if you serious, u ever use cm10.1? granted not all of 10.1 will be in sony version of 4.2.2 but most of it pretty useful. the Lock screen with calendar widget and weather update alone is useful.
[Xperia Z General] naphets8:
Not wrong, lockscreen widgets would be useful.

This is quite funny. It remembers me t the x10 updates. They took like a year or more to upgrade from 1.6 to 2.3 bypassing 2.2 (maybe 2.1 I don't remember which one was skipped). Be faster than that should be easy :D.

I got today the ota update, but I'm not sure to update. Reading trough the thread, seem not to be the best firmware... Any advice? It would be appreciated. :)

"I know that my English isn't perfect, but I still hope it's comprehensible." Send over the cool Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
I'm asuuming going from 434 to 253 firmware, its been good for me, not sure who told you its not good?
[Xperia Z General] Ame123:
Are this fun stuffs???..this stuffs are not worth of the long wait..nusic unlimited not even works in my country..
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I can't talk about anything unannounced I'm afraid...
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
screw the 4.2 update.... wait for some one to port this over/google releasing it to 03/02, if its true Google Edition expansion: Sony Xperia Z may be next, who else needs in?
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Well, I wouldn't want to have stock 4.1.2 over Sony's 4.1.2 tbh.
[Xperia Z General] Reidroid:
you're sure of that ?

:good::good::good:
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
yea tomorrow...for sure...make sure u stay up for it...
[Xperia Z General] Reidroid:
Thanks my friend

;)
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Lol you're kidding right
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Exactly. The things Sony adds are worth so much more than the few new things in 4.2 Sony hasn't already implemented.
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
its so funny LMAO...
[Xperia Z General] H3adru5H:
RUN ON SENTENCEZ ERMAGHERDDD
[Xperia Z General] -Zork-:
LOL!.

So keep waiting 4.2.2 hope soon
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
because their programmers isnt as good as Samsung lol thats the only company that have 4.2.2 right now...
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
tomorrow is like a stopped clock, it will always be right at some stage
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Because it would require double work. The base OS is ready, but they can't release software without Sony apps. They have two options:

Release 4.2.2 ASAP with the old Sony apps - which would mean all of them have to be checked for compatibility, something that takes quite some time. Then later add all new stuff (with even more of a delay because people had to work on porting the old ones).

Release 4.2.2 a little bit later but with newer apps - which takes a little more time but saves them a lot of manpower and allows them to implement new features instead of only wasting time on compatibility of old versions.

In general it's just much faster. It's also why Sony's update policy is very different from most other brands'. For example, when the Xperia S and T families got the Jelly Bean update they also got most of the new apps that are available in the Z. Why? Because it's silly and a waste of time to maintain two versions that work on Jelly Bean when you can make things easier for yourself (Sony) and better for the consumers.

It's also why the extra .1 was added in the last version number (10.1.1.A instead of 10.1.A), by the way, as far as I know. This build is a branch that is being worked on independently from the 4.2 update. Because 4.2 is still a few months away (probably mid-summer) yet nearly finished they had to branch off the 10.1.A firmware to fix some bugs without affecting the 4.2 development. It's just a theory but it somehow makes sense, I think.

They know what they're doing at Sony. People constantly complain about 'slow updates', but at least they're updates that are worth something. Other manufacturers update a phone from 4.0 to 4.1 and the only change you notice is the addition of Google Now. We get more improvements and new things in a simple update (10.1.A > 10.1.1.A) than some other manufacturers do in a major update. When Sony does a major update you can be sure that it's really, really worth it. It improves so many things that it always feels a little like having a new phone again.

(Source: Me, experienced Xperia-owner, developer and I actually do some social media-related work for Sony Mobile NL.)
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
Could be nice once Sony stops supporting the XZ. I hope the XZ gets in the program.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
July/August, most likely.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Probably later than HTC one and galaxy S4...while they were released 2months later
[Xperia Z General] naphets8:
The next quote could give you an answer. There are some posts like this hanging around...

(@ donottouch: I just took your post as example)

I would say for sure... :p

You all should not forget that Sony have like a ton of phones to keep updated. They will look for doing the most tasks in the same time. ( otherwise they would need a ton of developers, which cost of course a lot of money) and Sony would never make benefits. The rest you can guess it...

I'm not defending Sony, of course it's not fair to announce a shot delay and let the customers wait. I also was excited to get the update soon... :mad:

"I know that my English isn't perfect, but I still hope it's comprehensible." Send over the cool Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] FrAN_oC:
Sony claims on their Xperia Z facebook, that the 4.2.2 update is coming probably this month, so expect it on July / August...
[Xperia Z General] Ame123:
Can u post the link of there facebook page plz
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
There are no product-specific Sony Mobile Facebook pages. Only the country pages and one global one are managed by Sony Mobile.

I'll see if I can get some details on 4.2, last I heard internally is that it is almost ready and will be available soon. The PR teams have already received the information about it and are preparing their localised media.
[Xperia Z General] Reidroid:
:( gonna take a long time

:mad:
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
The month just started, so be patient
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Usually when Sony push 2 consecutive updates that means the big update is not so far,i guess at the end of this month or at the beginning of next month.
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
"Nshallah" :p
[Xperia Z General] Psicao:
Ameen : )
[Xperia Z General] fer2503:
I don't understand why you people have this need of 4.2.2...with .307 Sony have fix all the major software problem of Xperia Z. The 4.2 it's the same of 4.1. I think that better software optimization i better than 4.2 version!
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
I don't understand you people,if we can have an updated android version so why not?

I don't care what 4.2.2 has as features but at least it has an improved speed(project butter).
[Xperia Z General] :
It was the same with xperia s I just updated my mom's phone over ,team weaver took from 6pm to just now to get root etc etc. So even with an older soft she is happy now. Half a year later than it should be, her phone is fixed....:thumbup:

Well done. But late but at least something.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
4.2.2 tomorrow guys FO SHO
[Xperia Z General] :
And what is the fuss about it???? I was there with the xs but there was a whole different story... 422 does not bring that much... Can it?

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Project Butter is part of 4.1 as well....

Or do you mean something else?
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Extra butter.
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Correct.
[Xperia Z General] Ali-Babaz:
Look on this for the C6606 (T-Mobile Version), wtf.

10.1.1.A.1.319 = 4.1.2

10.3.A.0.407 = 4.2.2 or maybe 4.3 ?

ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=23321
[Xperia Z General] Michealtbh:
I don't understand why people live in houses when tents are fine. I don't understand why people drive cars when walking is fine.
[Xperia Z General] fer2503:
I'm ok with you if we talk about 5.0 in the future, but 4.2 it's the same of 4.1
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Yummy! :p smoothness is the same in 4.1 and 4.2.2, only if Sony optimizes even more it will be smoother :)
[Xperia Z General] xman_here:
We may see it landing on Google Edition Sony Xperia Z. Very much possible IMO
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
Sorry to disappoint you but 4.2 is even faster than 4.1

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Yeah, but it's not that much :p and Sony also uses their own optimizations so I don't think a lot will change ;) would be nice if it's going to be even smoother though :)
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Its really not the same, my Galaxy nexus is much smoother than this phone, well until I have too many things open lol
[Xperia Z General] demon2112:
Im sorry butt.....my gnex aswel is smoother altough i have xylon rom on it.

But the launcher is much much smoother on my gnex
[Xperia Z General] TheAlteredState:
Also, I want photosphere... that's not available in 4.1.2.... or else I'm just blind.

Hopefully, when the Google Edition Xperia Z is launched, we can all flash our phones to the Google Edition; wouldn't that be nice!
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
For me battery is widely improved..before when screen was turned on at the same brightness level as now it falls 1% every 2 to 2.5mins now it tooks 4+mins :D ram management also..and heat control (tested with games) ;)

I just love sony!
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
And this is on what firmware?!
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
.2528201527
[Xperia Z General] Julianocas:
I want to see when things like this new malware come as someone discover a "backdoor" on Android and it spread through all Android devices... how Google will handle to update it and how brands and carriers will release this quickly.

Nah, they don't care, screw users...
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
Sony have no problem pushing out a update that changes 1 thing.
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
......what?

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yeap and everyone will be satisfied because they think it changes everything.
[Xperia Z General] dasprot:
I got my XZ with an O2 (de) contract, so I guess I'll have to wait a little longer for the update, right?
[Xperia Z General] zakwak:
I have a German one too but i do not have such kind of options, maybe because it is a T-mobile one (branded) !:confused::confused:
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Re: 4.2.2 is coming soon....

The first pic was an nexus 4 :p

No one has that options on the Z

Sent from my Sony Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] oranglewat:
The photo sphere option would be awesome. And yeah, it would be a big fail for Sony if they don't include the lockscreen widgets.
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Re: 4.2.2 is coming soon....

You amaze me.

The screenshot is just showing the option to keep wifi on during sleep, thinking users of XZ may have it too.
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Yes, he was just showing the option :)

And no offence, but you always think you are the best and know everything.. That's what I think every time I read one of your posts.. Just talk to DooMLorD or Bin4ry or any other good dev, let's see how smart you are then.

Just don't do like you do most of the time and help people in a normal way, it will cause less problems then with your attitude sometimes.

I have nothing against you, just pointing it out so you know it.
[Xperia Z General] schaggo:
...and spawned a whole discussion why it may or may not look exactly the same on other users devices.

I know exactly what you mean and respect your feedback. Thanks.

Yet the paragraph above is a perfect example of what puts me in this annoyed mood. Fellow forum member tries to help, posts informative screenshot, ton of clueless jump in, miss the point and cry "mine looks different". There's just too many totally clueless peeps around spreading just plain wrong things and I find this highly annoying as it causes confusion, even more questions, more flood.

Thanks Entropy512 for the link in your sig, I read fellow retired senior mod kyphurs post every now and then: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45

"I think what a lot of people forget is that this is not a "make my phone neat & kewl" place. (...) As implied by the name this is technically a Developers forum/community. (...) IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE. (...) Now do we go kicking users off who never contribute anything, NO. We tolerate it to an extent. Where the toleration ends is when these users start diluting the usefulness of the forum by repeating the same questions over and over again."

I'll refrain from posting then from now on.
[Xperia Z General] TeeJayEss:
Good stuff, I'm not the only one to notice your attitude around here
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I don't know you personally and this is not an attack of any kind to your personality or you.

I released fully functional recovery for locked bootloader today (togethet with cpasjuste), it uses just a stupid .bat file for installing. But still someone sent me a pm, he didn't knew how to install it, I know this may seem very stupid, but should I just ignore it and leave him?

- Simple answer: NO

And this is indeed a forum made for developers etc, but it has become a Community for everyone nowadays. I'm one of the developers that tries to provide fast support for everyone, regarding his knowledge. I know people really appreciate the help they get. The less they know the happier you will make them if you just help them without having a bad attitude and be a bully to these people.

Always remember you were once a stupid dumb noob too!

I once was a noob and I'm still no expert, I'm still learning a lot about developing. But still I appreciate any help I can get to learn new stuff from devs like my friends DooMLorD and Dees_Troy etc.

We are in this community to help, if you can't stand the fact that more people without knowledge come here, then I think you should consider just ignoring their posts. I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking like this.

Everyone who knows me will know I rarely or never get mad, but this time I'm done with it. thank you for your attention.
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
You promise? Because I have not seen too much informative or helpful comments from you, compared to sarcastic ones.

Thanks krabappel2548, I couldn't agree more on your previous comments.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
^ Couldn't have said it better
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
It's ok now guys, let's get back on topic :)
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
Re: 4.2.2 is coming soon....

Zl got a new firmware update.. And the phone of the year the Z didnt :( how come? although it's 4.1.2 but it probably has lots of bug fixes (at the first point the wifi..)
[Xperia Z General] defsix:
Maybe the ZL had a small bug that doesn't exist in the Z ? I imagine they're is a small difference in the two firmwares for different radios and notification lights.
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
Every single phone I've ever owned had people complaining of WiFi bugs and data drops none of which I have had or have now barring the Nexus 4 WiFi not working on screen off. Can't say there's any really bad bugs to speak of on Z I need fixed.

Purely a speed increase would be nice but not essential. Buggy stamina mode might be the only issue I'd like to see sorted.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Is the weak wifi related to hardware, or just needing a better radio?
[Xperia Z General] Ame123:
Re: 4.2.2 is coming soon....

Its just the problem of the wifi indicator..
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
that really doesnt explain the frequent dropouts..:S
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
Would be nice if was the only problem with the WIFI.
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
Could have to do with the build quality. I recently saw my fiends iPod Touch 5th gen and it had this ugly black part which was supposed to give the device a better WI-FI reception.
[Xperia Z General] :
Thread is pointless, any op can close it??

Anything are coming soon... End of the world... Next payday... Next weekend... They coming soon. It's all depends on a specific timeframe.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] El.Guaje:
Maybe we will have 4.2.2 this month?
[Xperia Z General] G1_enthusiast:
4.2.2 tomorrow guys.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Nothing certified for ZL after .307...
[Xperia Z General] Jonfensu:
Another Post by ZOMG:
[Xperia Z General] Mastrox:
Maybe that. 319 is the Google Edition?

Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 con Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] Thraxzzz:
Trolling level : sir :p

Sent from my C6603 using voldemort's nose
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Maybe it's not? :P

◇C6603
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
How old are you?
[Xperia Z General] gm007:
That was my bet.
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
10.3.A.0.407 changes at a glance based on a limited preview:

- Android 4.2.2

- 4.2.2 lockscreen with widgets + quick access to camera even when PIN locked, actually it's like a camera widget

- Quick settings selection + reorganization options

- Daydream etc

- Dualshock 3 wireless controller support

Can't answer any questions as I only had limited access to a Z with the 4.2.2 update. From what I've heard though it should be far away unless another test release comes up.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
You're the man gbil.Thanks for the info!

Edit:Sorry,but only one question.Does it have the new 3.6 kernel?

◇C6603
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
What about ZL?

Nothing certified for ZL on ptcrb
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Is that a "should be far away" or "shouldn't be far away"? (Just checking.) Last I heard it wasn't that far (as in, July/August).
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
Should stop writing posts from my tablet!!! :silly:

It should read "SHOULDN'T be far away"

Too many 'should' :D
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Great to hear, as expected :P
[Xperia Z General] tseyksuli:
Is it me or does site say 4.2.2 update is for model C6606, C6616 ? isnt sony xperia z ussing C6603, C6602? and not C6606 and C66016?
[Xperia Z General] :
yes why its not certified for c6603
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
If 10.3.A.0.407 is Android 4.2.2, then how do you explain that the screenshot on Xperia blog shows 11.1.A.1.450 as build number? Fake screenshot?
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
And also with the default launcher (Xperia Home) you can have transparent Notification and Softkeys bars ;)
[Xperia Z General] amfirbek92:
I think yes cz in general first digits of a build number dont change with software update for the same phone although when the OS version changes ;) 6 for xperia s 4 for arc S except for the TX 7 and 9 (these for what I owned)
[Xperia Z General] :
anything new sony added expcept transparent stuff and 4.2 stuff

like sony custom things
[Xperia Z General] tseyksuli:
one on pic there is a OAP release of 4.2.2 by sony for xperia z, which is not real build firmware for public release.
[Xperia Z General] gbil:
Dated 4 months ago... Yeap totally fake.

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Who is using the default launcher ? :p

Action Launcher Pro FTW :D
[Xperia Z General] nxkr:
Finalyyy
[Xperia Z General] naphets8:
I am! And I'm pretty happy with it!

Seems to be that Sony is working hard.

Looks like soon is 4-5 month for Sony, as I got mine in March and update expected in the nexts months ( I insist for the plural ;) ) : fingercross:

So stay patient! :rolleyes:

"I know that my English isn't perfect, but I still hope it's comprehensible." Send over the cool Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
lol :p

Some guys are though! :D
[Xperia Z General] :
why you need another update the 4.2 coming this month
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
Nope! This will be the next one! ;)
[Xperia Z General] naphets8:
What about .307 firmware?

"I know that my English isn't perfect, but I still hope it's comprehensible." Send over the cool Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] mitsosoft:
307 has already started rolling out but it won't be available for all countries! ;)
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Why not?
[Xperia Z General] Nameless One:
Presumably some will go straight from the .253 4.1.2 build to 4.2.2
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I am using the default launcher ;)
[Xperia Z General] happily1986:
i already have it! CM10.1 hahaha.

kthxbye
[Xperia Z General] bigbamboo5:
I'm UK unlocked and I'm hoping I can go straight from .434 to 4.2.2. (I'm not holding my breath, though. I've never before been in a situation where unbranded phones are the last to get updates - it's counter intuitive, really. Having said that, the phone works well as it is, so I'm not smacking my head against the wall, or anything...)
[Xperia Z General] Andrewtst:
Me using default launcher happily. :)
[Xperia Z General] Haldi4803:
i really wonder if the provider made some pressure and forced sony to release updates for them first.....

btw. 4.2. includes Miracast right ? :)
[Xperia Z General] AntonyStark:
The pressure is them just saying it may not play nice on their network. They probably could have always done this.
[Xperia Z General] Wishmaster89:
AFAIK, miracast is already supported by XZ(you can even search youtube for videos showing how it works on XZ), just like it was supported by XT when it got update last year while still on 4.0.4. I'm looking into buying one of those miracast adapters for my TV, but for now it looks like it's only netgear ptv3000 and I would prefer something smaller like wifi dongle.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
The PTV3000 really is quite small: http://ultrabooknews.com/files/2012/09/P1120145.jpg
[Xperia Z General] Wishmaster89:
Agreed, but it's still another box(even if small:)) that I have to place under my TV :)

Would prefer something like rocketfish adapter that connects directly to the TV withouth wires but unfortunately it's not available in my country.