yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jacquestrapp:
Me too, my only real issues with CM (or any non-TW ROM) stem from the fact that the radio interface has not been released by Samsung and therefore the reverse-engineered AOSP RIL will probably never be as good as stock. It's not limited to signal strength issues, you also can't take full advantage of the phone's World Phone capabilities with a non-Touchwiz ROM. Unfortunately for me, that's a deal-breaker, my phone needs to work as a phone first and foremost and if Touchwiz ROMs have a better and more functional radio, I have to stick with that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] avettraino:
I have been using the latest nightlies of Cm and they have been running great. phone works great except in some areas where I can't get a signal with TW roms either.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jessicahll:
I had CM running on my Dinc2. Since getting the S3, I've been running CleanROM with mods. (when I was on CR5.6 I was using KindaCrap Mods and now that I'm on CR 6.0 I"m using Andy Bones' AOSP Theme, which gives it a lot of the feel of CM).
[HTC Inspire 4G] RootYBoyz:
hey my mom got a galaxy s2 and i like the kernel and softwere on it in other word i like the rom it self so i am looking for a rom that is

ics 4.0.4 kernel 3.0.8, like this one in the video bellow please i really want it so bad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6FuLb_gs5Y
[HTC Inspire 4G] glevitan:
Maybe You should look in S2 forums.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RootYBoyz:
but i have htc inspire 4g and i want the galaxy s2 4.0.4 kernel 3.0.8 rom i search it but ill give the one that looks like jelly bean and i want the one that looks like galaxu s2 ics thanks for reply
[HTC Inspire 4G] bananagranola:
If you really want it look into how to do it yourself. This is a development forum, not a request forum.

And given that kernels are phone specific and irrelevant to the look of the ROM, I'm guessing a significant amount of research will be necessary. Good luck.
[HTC Inspire 4G] RootYBoyz:
ok thanks
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alwayspunk:
Hi , i was wondering if there is a mod or something with it or if its possible to port that lockscreen to our defy...

:silly:
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] :
Hi,

please don't be annoyed that I bring up this topic again but I really don't know what to try anymore.

I have a XDA with

ROM-Version 3.14.16 GER

Radio-Version 4.21 (upgraded recently from 4.16)

My telephone network provider is tele.ring in Austria.

and my phone hangs up every hour or so, sometimes more often. Either the connection bar on the top showing the connection strength will drop to 0 and it says "no signal" or everyting seems to be okay, signal strength is there but I can't make calls. Basically the same thing as in posting http://www.xda-developers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=455 where noone answered :(

I tried the following to solve this problem:

1. Got Phone Today from Burr Oaks Software because that lets you change the refresh rate, that is how often your Phone connects to the Network

2. Upgraded from Radio-Version 4.16 to 4.21.

3. Got a new simcard.

Nothing helped, now I am a bit desperate because a cell phone doesn't make a lot of sense if you can't be reached. Can anyone, ANYONE please help me here and give me a hint how to make the phone working ?

Thank you very much,

ABertl
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MarkMRL:
I'd love if someone developed a smallapp that turns on the flash led. I think it would be really useful and easy to make.

Man, I wish I was able to code for android, but I'm too lazy to learn :crying:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Luhccas-X10:
Why don't you search on PlayStore?

Sent from my Xperia S
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Toledo_JAB:
wrong section

I guess that your love for the app has blinded you :D

You posted a question in the general section and not the Q&A like the XDA rules say you should. :)

And yes, asking someone to do or make something is a question.

I also agree that a fast search of the play store will turn up several torch apps. The rules also say to search your question before posting.

These are the XDA forum rules that you violated.

1. Search before posting.

Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.

15. Keep posts/threads on-topic

Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.

General Forums - For news and announcements relating to your device.

Q&A Forums - For all question threads / posts. If there is no Q&A forum use the device General Forum

For the full set of the XDA rules please bookmark the link in my signature called "READ THE XDA RULES"

Thank you for understanding reported for mod moving
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] MarkMRL:
Uhh...

I wasn't asking for a "small torch app", but for someone to make a SmallApp that enables the torch. You know, sometimes it's useful to turn on the torch without having to leave the app you're in, and that's the point of Small Apps. That would really be useful, I think.

Of course I know there are over 9000 torch apps in the market (I'm not that disconnected from reality yet), but I was asking for someone to make a torch SmallApp, because there isn't one yet.

And I thought requests went in General because I saw a couple of [request] threads in there, but if I was wrong, I apologize.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Toledo_JAB:
Technicaly a request is a question and should be in Q&A. Its up to the mods to move it if needed. ;)

Sorry I miss read the post. :(

You might want to find a small apps mod thread in the themes & apps and ask there.

You should get a better response there from small app users.

Good luck

From Jaramie's LT28at
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
So out of the blue my phone starts continuously rebooting. Typically right when it gets to the point where it's loading the unlock ring. Sometimes it will get passed that where I can navigate the phone but will always reboot with 5 minutes. Going on for about 2 days now.

I s-off'd rooted a month ago with no issue until now.

I've already tried reloading the RUU and performing a factory reset, locking/unlocking the boot loader. Re s-offing with no luck.

Any ideas besides attempting a return to sprint or htc?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Using a root explorer got proc/last_kmsg and save that file to your sdcard then post it here
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
How do I do that without access to the android gui?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
If you are familiar with adb adb pull /proc/last_kmsg
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
I see a bunch of options when I enter that command. Not sure where to go from there.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Do you know if it pulled that file?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
I searched the SD card and nothing. I'm assuming this is done in fastboot?

I only get 'Android Debug Bridge version 1.0.25', then a bunch of command options.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
If you adb pulled it it would be on the your pc
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
Nothing, it just gives me a list of adb command options. I'm doing this via cmd with the phone in fastboot, correct?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Should be used while phone is powered on connected to a pc through cmd you should have adb debugging enabled on your phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
Same deal. Anything else I can try?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
Well that file would shed light on why it's rebooting. Since your soff have you tried re flashing a rom? Wiping everything before flashing.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
I've reflashed the RUU from Unlimited. What needs to be wiped beforehand?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] thicklizard:
I would go the the development thread download the stock rooted rom from the 3.16 update. Reboot into recovery wipe system, factory reset, wipe cache and dalvik cache. Install rom. Reboot
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] AvantGuard:
Tried that...

I've done everything suggested above, but to no avail. I've tried restoring Nandroids and flashing the stock rooted ROM. None of them make it completely past the boot animation. I get about 3 sec. in, and it reboots. Any ideas? I'm truly stumped, and I REALLY don't want to go back to my back-up phone (I do love my Opti S, but still...). Can anyone help?

EDIT: I've flashed the most recent CM nightly (b/c I was on the milestone when the problems started) and that's where I get the farthest. I can get to the screen where the phone tries to turn on Wifi before it locks up and reboots. As a matter of fact, the problems started this morning when my phone wouldn't connect to Wifi or data. Could a bad wifi radio be the reason for the reboots?

Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
Hmm..tried everything, still reboots. Seems like I can buy myself some time by going airplane mode and turning off NFC. Thinking this is a hardware issue.

Anyone have advice about attempting a return with Sprint or HTC with S-OFF/rooted then back to stock?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] jkrlvgn:
Take out your SD card, boot to recovery, wipe everything (data, system, cache, dalvik) and then flash something like cm10 and try fast boot flashing the boot.IMG from the ROM...just for the sake of trying.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] miediev:
On CM10 now and its rockin solid so far..will update with results later.
[HTC One X] locker1234567:
So i decided to root my one x today and everything went fine. i had downloaded renovate rom 2, and was going to flash it. i went into fastboot mode and flashed the boot.img, i then rebooted and the touchscreen is no longer responsive. How can i fix this?

Thanks
[HTC One X] psyko93:
AW: [Q] Unresponsive Touchscreen After Root

Explane more.

What hboot are you in etc.?
[HTC One X] DelBoy:
You have flashed the kernel modules and rom?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
Hey :)

What's the Brickbug?

I had download the eMMC Brickbug Check App... It shown "insane"... :(

Must I worry while flashing new Firmwares etc.? :eek:

What's about CyanogenMod? Is the Brickbug in Kernel disabled? ::confused:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2091045

[Important] Sudden Death Fix - Are you covered?

You really need to start using search ;)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
AW: What's eMMC Brickbug?

How I can be safe?

Can I flash CyanogenMod without any worries? :p
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Try reading that link posted in full first .

jje
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
AW: What's eMMC Brickbug?

I had but my english is not very good and I can't see "Bugfixed" on get.cm :p
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
Look. You need to start using this forum's search function and even use Google instead of opening a new thread for every single question.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
AW: What's eMMC Brickbug?

Can I flash CyanogenMod without problems and worries that my SGS3 has a SuddenDeath?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killbubble:
R: What's eMMC Brickbug?

I quickly read the thread and i saw sudden death and exynos words....maybe it's that bug with the exynos cpu that if not patched (latest updates fron samsung patched it) can make it vulnerable to virus attacks that make it 'die'. If it says insane it probably means u don't own the rom version that has patched the bug....i wouldnt worry about it. In fact my own cell phone is still vulnerable, but it's probably gonna be just fine cuz even though i dknt use an antivirus i ignore the existence of viruses so it automaticcaly makes my phone virus-free:cool:

Plus if u dont notice any lag or problems with the phone why worry?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
AW: What's eMMC Brickbug?

I think it's the wrong bug :) I want to know whether CyanogenMod is eMMC-SuddenDeath-Safe or fixed. All I now know about this bug is that my phone-eMMC chip is insane.... It's something with the internal memory which has a bug and hardbrick the device... :(
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Glebun:
you need to read the thread
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheRealFelix0212:
AW: What's eMMC Brickbug?

But I only want to know whether CyanogenMod has the fix :(((
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
Yes, the CM kernel has it (this is a kernel matter), and yes, the latest iterations of CWM also have this patch. We don't know if these patches actually help or if it's more bullcrap from Samsung.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Glebun:
read the thread, for God's sake, the answer is there
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] killbubble:
R: What's eMMC Brickbug?

dont read!!!:D:D

Fight for the truth! You have the right to be told!

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Were on xda for gods sake!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Phobos Exp-Nord:
Guys I'm experiencing a great problem. With a demo that uses render to texture technique I'm getting 26fps on non-overclocked Galaxy SIII. With Nexus i'm getting no more than 5! With disabled render-to-texture step this value raises to expected 14fps, as Nexus GPU is twice slower than SIII. Can it be solved somehow? I already do not use MipMaps for rb textures. So here's how I'm create the renderbuffers, everything else i'm doing with them is just binding and changing viewport to much smaller sizes that the screen. Main scheme is taken from some third party demo.

// generate
GLES20.glGenFramebuffers(1, fb4, 0);
GLES20.glGenRenderbuffers(1, depthRb4, 0); // the depth buffer
GLES20.glGenTextures(1, renderTex4, 0);

// generate texture
GLES20.glBindTexture(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, renderTex4[0]);

// parameters - we have to make sure we clamp the textures to the edges
GLES20.glTexParameteri(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_WRAP_S,
GLES20.GL_CLAMP_TO_EDGE);
GLES20.glTexParameteri(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_WRAP_T,
GLES20.GL_CLAMP_TO_EDGE);
GLES20.glTexParameteri(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_MAG_FILTER,
GLES20.GL_LINEAR);
GLES20.glTexParameteri(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_MIN_FILTER,
GLES20.GL_LINEAR);

// create it
// create an empty intbuffer first
int[] buf4 = new int[texW4 * texH4];
texBuffer4 = ByteBuffer.allocateDirect(buf4.length
* 4).order(ByteOrder.nativeOrder()).asIntBuffer();;

// generate the textures
GLES20.glTexImage2D(GLES20.GL_TEXTURE_2D, 0, GLES20.GL_RGB, texW4, texH4, 0, GLES20.GL_RGB, GLES20.GL_UNSIGNED_SHORT_5_6_5, texBuffer4);

// create render buffer and bind 16-bit depth buffer
GLES20.glBindRenderbuffer(GLES20.GL_RENDERBUFFER, depthRb4[0]);
GLES20.glRenderbufferStorage(GLES20.GL_RENDERBUFFER, GLES20.GL_DEPTH_COMPONENT16, texW4, texH4);

Update 1. Waiting for the ability to test using fb sizes as powers of 2 to match twiddling on PowerVR...

Update 2. Using for framebuffers 512x512 instread of 640x360 didn't give any significant performance raise... So the question isn't closed.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imz09:
Hi guys.can anyone tell me how to downgrade samsung galaxs s gt i9000 running ics to official gingerbread 2.3.3.???

I am running ICS 4.0.4

Baseband version XXJVT

Kernel version 3.0.8-g4dc1367.

Cyanogenmod Version 9-20120507-nightly-galaxysmtd.

Looking foward to your replies.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EwOkie:
Why 2.3.3?

Follow My guide on 2.3.6 just member to put PIT File in and Re-Partition.. Done!
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gopalasubramanium:
Goto to original Stock ROM 2.3.3

Flashing To Original Rom - Using Odin on GT-i9000

OR

Flashing To Original Rom - Using Heimdall on GT-i9000

Then if you want to root

Rooting GT-I9000 2.3.3 [India DDJV9]

Enjoy :)
[Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Imz09:
Thanks a mill guys.it worked.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] elias234:
i have a sony xperia s i'm having these issues on stock based rom or also original stock rom , when playing games , hard games , the phone bigens to over heat and the brightness of the screen began to decrease a lot and then the cpu will be clocked at 810 mhz automatically , so the games bigens to lag a lot but when i leave the game for couple of moments the screen brightness will be restored but i have to reclock the cpu manually , what is the problem ?

Edit: the CPU will only be auto clocked at non stock kernel but it does auto clock on stock based kernels , and the auto brightness will not be decreased on cm10 or cm10.1 or cm9 and every time i install a new cm10 i have to install disable xperia auto brightness from play store to have maximum screen brightness , is this normal ?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] panchuckles:
Is normal on xs and all 2012 xperias (i think)

Solution?

Search

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36336403

:)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
[Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-13)

Hi fellas, im here with the exclusive Sense 5 Wallpapers & Ringtones. Ive resized every single wallpaper to fit Explorer's Resolution, and the ringtones are as they come in stock HTC One or Sense 5 :)

If u want any wallpaper in any other resolution , PM me ill surely do it for you :)

DOWNLOADS:

HTC One Audio

HTC One Stock Wallpapers [MDPI]
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
PREVIWS:

PREVIEWS:
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] electron.hTcpico:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

I don't think you know what you are doing.....! :confused::confused::thumbdown:

This is mostly for sense 4 users and this is what we get ......! :(:(

Please tell me a solution .....!

Tried disabling wallpaper scrolling in fallout tweaks but no still while setting the wallpaper ivl get the same 5 screen grid.....! :(
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

1st of all calm down, this happens when u dont read the thread properly,im not crazy here giving instuctions to apply even a wallpaper. Now read again, as ive mention use Image 2 Wallpaper app for applying wallpaper proplerly

Thanks.

Sent from a thing called something which is not a thing but still a thing.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] electron.hTcpico:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

Sorry bro got you wrong ... ! :p

I was my mistake I didn't read the

instructions ......! :p

But now I read it but I just don't get how to use the app you mentioned .......!

So I would like to share my method ......!

I installed an app called wallpaper changer

1. and in the app selected Fit to screen

2. And selected your given wallpaper folder

3. And then placed the apps widget on home screen (tapping that we can select the wallpapers in that folder .....!)

4. And at the end checked disable wallpaper scrolling in fallout tweaks......!

Sorry for the misunderstanding .....! :cool:
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] electron.hTcpico:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

And here are the results....!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

No problem at all bro, happens sometimes.

Btw its simple, 1st of all make sure that whatever xyz launcher you are use , disable wallpaper scrolling, then from image 2 wallpaper , just select the wall u wanna use as wallpaper and select no-resize/fit to screen then simply scroll down and apply wallpaper.

Sent from a thing called something which is not a thing but still a thing.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] yash539:
from did u got sense 5 icon ?

if u hav plz upload
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

You can download the icon pack from here - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samanthaconner.sense

Sent from a thing called something which is not a thing but still a thing.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Gladiator00:
Nova Wallpaper also works fine. Thanks so much man!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] hsn97:
Re: [Wallpapers & Ringtones] Sense 5 / HTC One Stock Walls [MDPI] & Ringtones (10-03-

You're welcome :) , Yeah Nova wallpaper also works fine , didnt mentioned cause everyone may not be using it.

Sent from a thing called something which is not a thing but still a thing.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] ron@:
Thanks...:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khnfrhn:
=======

Please Note : After a LOT of searching on XDA Forums and various different ones Google told me and after trying every possible way. I am making this thread.

=======

Hello Members,

Well, about a week back my friend gives me a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 [GT-P7500] (WiFi+3G) and challenges me to fix it.

So, I bring it home try to boot up, well it does not! Long power press din't work, after reading some posts on other threads here I was able to get it to boot by using the Long Power Press and tapping the screen and then I see the Galaxy Tab logo but it won't go any further its stuck over there.

After that I went for the download mode to see i can do anything with ODIN3 I was able to boot into Download Mode, I Downloaded all the required files, such as ODIN3 , Stock Firmware for GT-P7500 and I successfully completed the ODIN process but IT IS STILL STUCK ON BOOT LOGO and No matter any recovery i flash through ODIN i cannot get into Recovery not even stock. I have tried CWM, STOCK various different ones too but no avail.

So , What I can access? :

1) Download Mode

2) APX (POWER + VOL UP)

Anyway to FIX this and put a Custom or STOCK ROM to get the TAB working again?

Thanks,
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khnfrhn:
Seriously??? No one?? :(

I tried flashing the Stock Honeycomb version today.. same thing it will complete the ODIN process but when it auto reboots its stuck on boot logo and no stock recovery access :( please help!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] k1mu:
Have you tried flashing just a new recovery? You need to get into recovery so you can wipe data/factory reset.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luc.highwalker:
On a lot of samsung devices, you have to uncheck auto reboot, and take the battery out after its done flashing. This has something to do with Samsung's security. Is there any way to do this on a galaxy tab? If so it might make it work. If not, you could try holding the power button after its done flashing (with auto reboot unchecked) until it forces a shutdown. If that doesn't work, you could try and let it run out of battery after its done flashing.

Sent from a galaxy far far away.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RighteousSlayer:
Did you ever get this working? I have a SCH-i905 and have experienced the EXACT same issue.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mr.flatbeat:
having same isue but i can get into recovery.. after flash im stuck on boot.. even trough odin it's a no go..

i have no idea what to do now as all firmware i can find are hosted on hotfile and that site is closed down.

if anyone has an idea i an willing to try it :)
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] astherion:
At first find ODIN, install Android SDK and adb on PC.

Try to flash latest original 4.0.4 ICS from sam site.

Download and install clockworkmod recovery through ODIN, you can download it from clockworkmod[dot]org website.

Voila! You now can flash all custom roms from SGT Android Development forum!!!

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P.S. Don't forget to make a FULL WIPE in CM before install a new ROM! Full wipe is recommended always before installing new rom!!!
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lovely heart:
you can try to open (android system recovery) after install custom rom and then do a wipe data/factory reset

steps

1- power off the tap

2- click on (volume up button + power button )

3 - choose data/factory reset

4-yes

5- reboot your tap

this work for me you can try it