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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
Mugen and Zerolemon both make awesome batteries, Mugen just charges more money.

That's their prerogative. Doesn't mean anything is wrong with their battery, the Mugen simply doesn't have as much value for your dollar. I personally don't worry about value when buying gadgets. I worry about fun and the Mugen and Zerolemon have both been fun to use. :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kaubay:
Mine has a problem that the bigger battery does not line up straight with the smaller battery. So the bigger battery pushes the TPU case top right corner outward and I can see the edge of phone.

Returned and ordered a new one. Hope the second one both batteries are aligned properly.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
I've noticed this type of thing more lately. Folks with a handful of posts saying "Hey, have you guys heard of "LinkToMyProduct"? I hear it's supercool!

Mugen should be ashamed that they got busted.

Want to promote your product? Make it better or comparable.

They make a good line of products but just at too high a premium price.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
One just hopes they read these forum comments and take notes. When there is no competition, you can set your price at any level. When you get quality competition, price point has to be evaluated. At the end, competition is always good for us, consumers who get a better deal :) But that shouldn't hurt manufacturer either because with better pricing they can sell more units. Just have to be realistic and listen to a feedback from your customers ;)

Now, I hope some case manufacturer will come to their sense and realize demand for ZL batteries to come up with their own case for ZL battery. Why not?!?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] fadilkarim:
Ah yes I saw that, I was just asking to see if there is a charger without the extra battery for cheaper. Although the cheap ones will probabl take years to charge the battery lol. I guess I'll try out the anker. How do people who are rooted allow for faster charging btw?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
I tried to take this beast down to 2% last night before a charge and started at 6 %... Streamed a hockey game.... Audio only browsed the web in the mean time.... Got to 4% then watched a hour long ces YouTube video and this thing still wouldn't hit 2% I ended up charging it at 3%

Love this battery just ducks trying to bring it down to 2%

sent from my Beans powered note2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
Yeah, I think the % thing on the phone is like the mileage computer on my car. When my car says "0 miles to empty" I know there's still 2 gallons of gas left in the tank.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
Yup mine sits at 3% forever too. I even streamed the movie Prometheus in it's entirety at 100% brightness while sitting at 3%. :)

On the bright side, the move from 2% to 1% moves fairly quickly. :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
I guess I just hope that this battery balances out better this is only the start of my third charge cycle and they say six before normal usage. Either way it takes a while to hit those lower percentages so even If it never really evens out once I hit the sixth I won't have to worry

sent from my Beans powered note2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
This thing won't go down to 2%! This is the first time ever I am waiting for a battery to hit 0% and ask for a charger :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
yeah, I was a little concerned too; my first charge last night, and I slapped this thing in this morning, and it quickly went down to 96%, then after another hour, it went down to 76%; its been at 75% for 4 hours now, even though I am calling, emailing, listening to music, etc...11 hours on, and at least 6 hours of frequent useage..BT, WiFi, gmail, 6 email acouunts, all checking constantly

Very bizarre!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] BladeDreams:
just ordered one....:)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
You are not late to the game ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sheesha_straw:
LOL, double the weight, double the thickness, triple battery life.....
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] VitaliyUvakin:
Guys, did you notice, white one available as well
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Double0EK:
Just thought I'd share my stats.

Note 2 is fully stock. No root at all.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
how many charge/recharge cycles have you gone through?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
Not that I'm gonna complain about my battery life running mean bean ice my screen on time max has been a little over 11hrs. It's running with the no wake lag mod so it should be expected to consume more but looking at these 18-20hr screen times make me wanna flash something else. It's more of an addiction at this point.... Like when i started using better battery stats.... Things kinda got out of hand. But when my android os uses just about as much life as the screen it makes me want to get push this thing farther. I've ran beans with Perseus and hit great life but the xposed baked in makes my optimum (TV) app not work but had very good life on the stock battery. Mean Bean and mean bean ice both are fast and give decent life but are not pushing this battery to the extreme. I'm thinking of giving clean rom a shot any suggestions?

sent from my Beans powered note2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pmjj:
entering my 3rd cycle stage

I have let my phone just run till it shuts itself off, round two went 34 hours with everything turned up to run it down, 1st cycle ran 28 hours, here is to 3, 4 and 5 cycle lol think I am going to love this battery and yes the price was right! I got the white one! :highfive:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
won't it get dirty? ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Double0EK:
I've only been through 2 full cycles.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pmjj:
yes

Actually yes it has lol, I have been working in the yard this week, dirty hands left some marks. I just did as mfg suggested ran it under water and wiped it off, it cleaned up really good! I need to find a zagg shield for the case lol! :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Asquared:
Haven't purchased one of these yet, but I'm not so concerned about the case or battery getting dirty, as I am about an excessive amount of dirt and dust getting inside the phone itself. I know it's early in the use cycle of this battery, but is anyone seeing any unusual amounts of dirt or dust showing up inside their Note II? Thanks!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
if you just live a "normal" life, then I cant imagine any dirt or dust getting into this case; its nice and snug, so unless you work in an incredibly dirty/dusty environment, It wont be any issue..now, if a bulldozer dropped a bucket full of dirt on you, then it might get a little dirt inside, but under normal circumstances, it will be fine..
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] xbltheshadow:
Agreed. For the most part, not much dirt gets in. The only part that I find I have to clean about once every two weeks is near the opening for the speaker. That cut out is more open than other parts of the case, so I'm finding some lint in there every once in a while. It's really not bad though. Nothing that I would worry about harming the phone.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Amd4life:
I agree about the speaker cutout, I think that part should contour down tight imo

First run is at 50+ hrs 80% screen bright, and just hit 2%

This battery is awesome.

Do I charge now, or wait till it dies completely?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
Great! Now you're telling me to avoid bulldozers full of dirt? Just take away all my fun!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
ok, maybe its ok if the dozer only has a bucket 1/2 full of dirt...please try that, and report your findings back to us..:good:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
But look on a bright side, you can still go after all those dirtbags in your line of duty ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
A never ending source of entertainment :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
sometimes letting the battery completely die can cause problems with your phone/rom when you re-charge it; I would plug it in at either 2% or 1% just to be safe..I'm on 31 hours with endless rom flashing, backing up, and every thing else, and still have 40% on my first charge...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
I agree and this is how I have been doing it too. That said, I did accidentally let it die all the way on the third cycle and there were no issues but like you say better safe than sorry.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
yeah, I have never heard it happen on this phone, but I know it happened on the note 1, and on the htc evo4g...better to be safe than sorry for sure!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
So whats everyones battery average with this? No stress testing or anything just normal usage not looking for the ppl that spend hours a day playing games on the device (I work full time aint got time for s**t like that) NORMAL ppl usage stats plz

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] xbltheshadow:
I've gotten two charge cycles so far of what I would consider normal usage under your guidelines (checking emails every so often, sending texts, answering the random calls, maybe playing a light game for a bit once a day, etc.). Of those two charge cycles, one had something like 5 days, 6 hours, and the other was 4 days, 22 hours on battery with like 14.5 and 16 screen on hours, respectively. Pretty darn good for normal usage.

I have had heavier usage cycles, and it still would last a little over 3 days with about 18 hours of screen on time (these were weekends when I could have more time with the phone). So in general, expect to not have to charge this monster often if you don't use the screen a ton. You may get a week on one charge if you do even less than my normal usage.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
I would bet you would easily get 4-5 days with your "light" useage...the battery barely discharges when its in your pocket..I lost 2% from when I went to bed until I got up 7 hours later..
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
Lol awewome im on my first charge since 2 o clock on tuesday ...its 10 o clock tday so im on 2d 21 h and its at 43%... its nice... its peecentages seem jacked up a lil for they last long then drop kinda fast but I think its cause its the first use and only one charge so far

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
I think that is because our phones are freaked out by a 9300mah battery, and dont have a clue on what percentage to report!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
That was my thought too

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
My thought three :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
Im just psyced cause of how long it lasts n since its obviously not callibrated and wont be able to know till after a couple drains n recharges... I thought id ask .. lol

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nighthawk626:
Does anyone know how to murder this battery in cold blood? I mean I haven't even gone through the first cycle yet. This screenshots are will very heavy use, Pandora unlimited synced with my motorcycle helmets Bluetooth, lots of Facebook, flip board, dropbox syncs,text and calls and lots of internet. Tmobile 4g, No WiFi involved either. So how the hell do you kill this battery? I really need it to die so I can charge it but every time I take out the battery and put it back in it goes up 5% and stays
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
someone said they streamed prometheus video at 100% brightness, and that helped kill it a little..it appears the last 5% takes forever..
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kozmo21:
That 2nd screenshot is weird. It shows screen on, but not awake? The other way is normal (awake but no screen on), where things are running in the background... but this is really strange?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nighthawk626:
i always had stuff running in the background, from pandora to dropbox sync but you're right about the weirdness. cant explain it
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TheLoonyRebel:
Is there any kickstand cases that will work with this battery? I'd love to find this out before potentially investing in this battery. Thanks in advance for any answers.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Double0EK:
The only case, so far, that'll work with this battery is a modded Otterbox Defender. Even with the holster the phone will not fit facing forward. Otherwise you'll have to wait for Zerolemons rugged case and see what they'll come up with.

Here's my Defender case and Holster with my ZeroLemon. I cut off the front part of the holster. Don't mind my crappy dremel skills. Also cut a camera and speaker hole through the holster (should've just cut a hole for the speaker)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
Heres a run down for all the people wondering how the zerolemon performs in real world testing.

I've had mine for more than 10 days. You must do at least a initial 12 hour charge cycles. The battery will APPEAR to drain quickly since it will most likely go from 100% to 70-80% in a few hours. BUT it will hover at that percentage for a day. On you're second day of use you will notice the battery start to drop again down to 33-44% and again hover for a few hours. On your third day of heavy use you'll notice that after your work day the battery will drop down to 7-8% and again hover for hours. I personally don't wait anymore for the battery to reach 2% since I can't stand my phone going into a dim power saving mode after 5%. As a precaution I charge my phone every other day and only do a full discharge one a week.

This is my battery's drain cycle. Might be different for some but should be typical for most. I am a heavy songza, Netflix, YouTube, reddit, navigation user and I typically get 3 full days off of the zerolemon battery.

Now on a side note for the otterbox mod. Im starting to not like it. The rubber hasn't really stretched and the belt clip has been giving me problems when I try to clip it in. The belt clip seems to pull off part of the rubber case when I take the phone out. I have also started to notice that the corners where the battery comes in contact with the rubber case has been starting to have scuffs and will eventually wear down the rubber and rip through. I hope zerolemon will come out with a rugged case with a BELT CLIP since I need it for work.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
Git mine to 7% and since tomo is saturday I need to plug it it... odd tho its at 32 after charging only for 40 min?!

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Ignore the % meter. It's a guess. Just charge till the light goes green. Or, if you need to take the phone then take it. It's a lithium battery, partial charges won't kill it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sodomanaz:
Finding time to charge this beast for the initial 12 hours is a pain, but got it done and running. I'm liking the fit with the zerolemon case though I'm definitely going to cut my flip case for NFC.

Debating on the Defender mod. Anyone having problems with the silicone tearing/cracking over time from the stress?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
3.7 volts?

running perseus kernel, should I change the voltage to 3.8 instead of 4.3? to help with calibration?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] VitaliyUvakin:
I do, Defender case mode is not all that great on ZL . I started to regret I actuality did it.

---------- Post added at 06:55 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:48 AM ----------

Im with you on defender mod. But if you really need a holster, try Seidio CONVERT. I got it per Vectron's recommendation and it works like a charm. Holster also fits UAG case with standart battery.

Win win for me
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
My first cycle started on 630am on Friday and ended around Sunday at 230am.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] d12unk13astard:
Second test with brightness always at 100% and overclocked to 1920/1920 performance the whole 2 days it lasted with over 12 hrs screen time. Plainjane rom with saber kernel.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
Plz share how u get the nfc enabled...

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sodomanaz:
Pretty sure I read earlier in the thread that some are cutting out a section on the original battery cover to fit the battery in and to keep the NFC connectors still touching (plus helping to keep dust out). I haven't tried it yet so I can't say for sure if it works but I don't think the battery is too thick to keep it from use. Someone who has done it or knows better will hopefully chime in.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
First charge... Loving this battery!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
It seems odd to me that it feels like games n movies n stuff drain the battery same same amount as o the old battery... like ten minutes of a game takes 2% on both this battery and the old one.... is that just me or no... I mean just text n phone and little browsing lasts forever

Jedi X Rom and Saberkernal of course ;)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
Just your experience... I'm running CleanROM ace with Perseus kernel and mine holds way longer than stock ever did.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
how much battery would a hour of mini motors take from you? and to clarigy it does last loads longer .. first charge i went 3d117h or something with playing games off and on .. some anime eps... but ya
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
Battery is amazing for sure, but the whole point that they are listening to initial feedback and redesigning their TPU case for a tighter fitting and will be working on a rugged case for it - now that is truly awesome!!!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
I don't know about the person you quoted but my provider also allows unlimited tethering on the plan I'm on. I'm with Three UK on The One Plan.

Back on topic: I hope they come up with a better looking solution to the back cover, and a way to get the NFC working with it. I'm pretty tempted to get this, even if it does make the phone huge. I just hope it'll still fit in the official vehicle dock.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] farfromovin:
I'm all about NFC in the cover as well, but that would delay the product and add cost. I'll just "engineer" my own NFC mod for it :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] KnightCrusader:
The only thing that thing is missing is a kickstand! But I still wants it...

Actually, the unlimited users on Verizon that pay for the unlimited tethering add-on would classify for this, since its a carrier-approved plan.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
I think you guys are getting unlimited tethering mixed up with unlimited data. The two are far different.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mdabeezy:
I Ordered my battery yesterday (air mail) and it came in about 30min ago... I am stoked!!!! Thanks guys for turning me on to this, it's much appreciated!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Jay A whY:
Any pics? Very curious to see the design change of the TPU case. NFC?

Sent from my iPhone 5
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
Also, would you be able to measure the thickness of the phone with battery/cover without TPU case?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] snrbobo:
i wanna see it too! I'll be ordering one as soon as possible. where did you order it anyway? Or is it not for sale to the public yet?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] bervin:
Don't be a troll Luther King
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] highstarmobile:
Still not available on Amazon or their website so I don't know how anyone would have gotten one.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Yeah probably just messing with us. I hope the battery is ready to ship before my birthday! March 28th
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] highstarmobile:
Got an email from them today. They said released by the end of the month and no NFC.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
I wonder if one of these might make some of those pelican like cases a more ideal fit?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
What email address? I have emailed them with no response. Just a generic email directing me for self support...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] highstarmobile:
I sent one to info@zerolemon.com. I got the email you're talking about then a personal one from Joey within 24 hours later.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
Did Joey send an email from a different email account?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pablo71:
ideas on the otter box mod for this

the photo on the right is my otterbox mod with the Anker 6200mah battery... you can see that on the sides there is not a lot of margin to cut more off of to accommodate that zerolemon battery you see on the left of the photo. I'm gonna do it anyways, but I'm just posting this photo so folks can see in advance what we're getting into if we want to mod an otterbox onto this thing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] highstarmobile:
Nope his reply was from the same address I emailed.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] donelam304:
Any chance of getting a pic with the case on it up close
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
I'm heavily undervolted... (cpu and gpu) that kernel your running doesn't support either afaik... Im running 5g witch is the highest under voting on cpu/gpu... Its hard to compare with ur running to what im running...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
hmm tru ... why do undervolt everything so far... wont your phone be significantly slower?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
Same speed.... Less juice.. Not all phones can handle it but, it's worth it!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
ur on a note 2 too right?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
Yeah Verizon
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] benji667:
hmm
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pmjj:
Admiral2145 what settings u using for undervolting?

I just got 62 hours on the 4th cycle decided to let it run normal for the charging down cycle to see I love this battery so far, it is a beastly size thought lol, was at Radio Shack looking for a charger he tried to show me one, I showed him the battery, you should have seen his face lol.

Admiral2145 what settings are you using for your phone to under volt it ? I am using Perseus-alpha 36 (3.0.36) kernal. I have stweeks and Antutu CPU Master Pro v2.5.2. thanks for your response.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Admiral2145:
There is a thread for profiles for the kernel... You flash the zip after the kernel... I'll find the link and post it here

Here is one, looking for the other one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=36202942

STweaks Guide

Another

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37230781

STweaks Custom Profiles
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pmjj:
Thanks!!

Thanks for the Information! :highfive: I love XDA for these reasons, People willing to help Others out!!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] motoolfan:
How long were you getting on the stock battery, with undervolting? I'm interested in doing this, I'm on cleanrom att . Not sure if I can run that kernel yet.. Time to do some research.. Lol. Thx
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kaisutam:
With the Defender mod, I found that I got a good stretch out of the silicone cover by getting it nice and hot with the heat gun. Just hot enough to still be able to tolerate touching it was good. I still have a good fit. I am using the Seidio Convert holster for my mod. There is a squeeze to get it all the way in the first few times but it has settled in and I really like the setup.

Sent from my supersized, megawatt required Note II.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] e46tuning:
Is your defender seated good enough to be abke to use the volume and power button? Mines stretched enough but I still have button issues. Have to push up and under the button to make it contact if I need to use it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kaisutam:
Yup! I think heating the silicone cover does the trick. I was able to pull it and seat it in the button openings before setting it in the main seal. It was like you say before the heat. I've had it on and off a couple of times now and it seems to have molded well. No more heat needed now.

Sent from my supersized, megawatt required Note II.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] e46tuning:
Had to go do another quick mod with the blow dryer, buttons seem to work better now.