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[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
The smartphone obviously isn't a replacement for a desktop (or media content server), but is sure has become a replacement for all the other portable computerized devices we used to carry: PDA, GPS, camera and mp3 player, etc. So, what kind of storage would one need to replace all those devices? Camera storage of 8 - 16 GB is not unreal for a collection of photos and videos, and music player storage of 16 - 32 GB is not uncommon for a collection of music. That's pretty conservative these days.

And ya, cloud storage is great, but c'mon, let's be realistic, we want all of our music and video content available locally so that when we don't have connectivity (like on a plane) we can still access our collection of music and videos.

32GB is almost NOT enough for many users. It is good that a 64GB version is available. I only wish the 64 GB versions were more readily available.

With ~ 25 GB of user space left over on a 32GB phone, that's not enough for me. I could make it work, but I would have to make some serious compromises about what I would have to leave out of my music collections, just to add a movie or two to watch on a trip.

An SD card slot would have solved the whole thing.

Just because Apple makes lots of money selling products targeted to users who care less about options than your average techie, doesn't mean it is a good idea to copy them.

I'm seriously considering the HTC One, but the lack of SD card and battery replacement has ALWAYS been a negative point against the whole prospect. The screen resolution is a plus, but they are starting out with points against them with the SD card problem.

And I really don't understand why they would do that.
[One (M7) General] metalfan78:
I agree with gruuvin. My phone replaced everything and I don't always have good service, but I listen to a lot of music at work. My 64 gb card is completely full with work stuff, photos and music. It's all backed up to my Dropbox account but I can't always access it. No sd card slot is really killing me, the non removable battery I can live with.
[One (M7) General] The Perfectionist:
I could be one of those rare people, but i had a HTC incredible s with only 8gb SD card yet without any storage issues. I have always wondered provided current smartphones with one hell of a ob-board storage capacity, why are people still bragging out the need for a SD slot. I would just delete the apps which i don't use anymore, songs i don't listen to anymore, photos i cant be bothered to look at anymore, and that solves any possible storage capacity. Afterall, the phone is not the only thing that defines your life, without any intentions to imply those who brag for SD slot have problems with their socials(pun intended).
[One (M7) General] metalfan78:
That's the beauty of android, the ability to use our phones in a multitude of different ways.
[One (M7) General] brickinphoneslol:
No SD card will not be that big of a deal, should a 64 GB model be offered. I could work with 32 GB if a incentive for storage cloud with 50+ GB was offered.
[One (M7) General] Reckless187:
32gb is more than enough for me, I still have about 12gb free on my One X.
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
PLUS the cloud will the be long term solution that replaces physical memory
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
I'm glad htc made a 64gb variant. Not even the Xperia z which has sdcard slot, is 64gb sdcard compatible.

See for yourselves

http://youtu.be/HbjsIqk5xuM
[One (M7) General] EmmaHAARP:
64 gigs is more than enough.

I think the complaint for expandable SD is the limited data plans offered by major carriers (if your on sprint, your good! and Tmobile?) which would suck up all your data uploading stuff every day.

I have nearly 32gb of music on my evo lte and the rest in pictures, apps, videos (64gb sd card) and I don't find this lack of SD a dealbreaker at all. Google music lets you upload a crap tons of music plus I think they give you free 25gb dropbox for 2 years when getting the phone which is truly great deal.

This problem comes more to people who like to be offline or have very limited coverage (like me in PR). And still you have the option to get a USB stick for extra storage.:good:
[One (M7) General] JesseMT4G:
SD cards IMO are fine, when they work. I have had two fail on my s3 and one I didn't back up. I have since went to Google drive and put them on there, problem solved.

I will be fine with either the 32 or 64G. Also use Otg cable if need be. Then again had bad luck with a couple of those as well.

More perturbed about the non removable battery than anything, but will learn to live with it. I do so with my Nexus 7.

Sent from a galaxy far away!
[One (M7) General] toad6386:
Storage wise, I have no issue with 32GB and no SD card. I currently run a 3VO and the P86IMG.zip was used for just about everything from splash screens to hboots. I assume (understanding the dangers:p) there are other methods for cardless devices, but that's the only thing I can see.
[One (M7) General] crawlgsx:
It is really only a big deal for a small minority. For the rest it is a buzzword / luxury / unnecessary.

Most people don't keep 64gb+ worth of music/photos/movies on their phone. MOST of us can keep a majority in the cloud anyway.

For the few that insist they need it, there are other phones out there.
[One (M7) General] tehdef:
Cloud... Why is this even an issue anymore... I steam Spotify from work all 20 days a month. No issues.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
What about when there's no service? That's your issue.
[One (M7) General] RJEvans:
Not a big deal. It comes in 32Gb or 64GB and there are loads of Cloud storage options to move your pictures, videos or music off your device if need be.

---------- Post added at 10:16 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 PM ----------

There is WiFi when there is no LTE and LTE when there is no WiFi. In addition, Cloud storage gives you the ability to download your media for offline use. Really, the lack of an sd card is becoming increasingly irrelevant.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
I dare you try that while in roaming! :p

Anyways this is an issue for me but not now since I already purchased a USB OTG keychain for my 64gb microSD.

Coming from a N95 8GB then went for the nokia n900 with 32gb internal storage + 32gb sdcard.

I downgraded my storage when I switched to android(Xperia Pro & Mytouch 4g slide) where I got stuck on 32gb media storage then I finally bought this 64gb microsd. Then comes the HTC One with inbuilt 32gb storage.

When you have your microsd storage full it's not very easy to trim the data to fit it in a 25gb extra space on your phone. But thanks to some user who linked me the usb otg keychain I finally decided to buy the HTC One.
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
My own position on this is that 64GB would probably be enough for me, but 32GB is not. Since HTC have not only failed to provide a card slot but also aren't selling the 64GB version in Britain, this is annoying.

What I need the storage space for is mostly downloaded video. A single episode of a TV show in 720p takes up about 1.2GB. Add a few games at 1GB or more each, and a couple of hundred "Zoe" photographs (each of which is twenty 4-megapixel photos plus three seconds of 1080p video) and the 26GB you have available on a 32GB phone isn't much.

Cloud storage and streamed video is simply not an option if you're watching on a London Underground train in a tunnel, which is where I would mostly be doing it (and 3G isn't enough to stream hi-def video anyway). It's also not an affordable option if you're roaming. Even when there is wifi, routinely swapping many gigabytes of files between phone storage and cloud storage is a pain.

OTG storage is what I will probably have to resort to, but I'm already carrying a phone, keys, wallet, Oyster card, microfibre cloth for cleaning glasses or phone screen, second pair of glasses, phone headphones, and sometimes an umbrella and that's quite a lot to lug around. I could do without having to carry a flash drive and cable as well.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Or looking at it in a less negative light, you could say that you already have to carry so much stuff, adding a tiny usb stick will hardly be noticeable. I had the same reservations when I got my one x, but it honestly isn't a problem. You can still keep your most important stuff on your phone (maybe your music), and just put vids on to the usb stick. If you download your videos to your laptop/pc then the process of transferring and organising your videos on the usb stick is generally more convenient than having to transfer via usb cable to your phone.
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
"Well, sure, I'm going to hit you with a baseball bat in a moment, but look at it in a less negative light: given how many times I've hit you with a baseball bat already, one more broken bone will hardly be noticeable."
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
"Well since I'm already lugging around a microfibre cloth and an oyster card, you can't possibly expect me to pick up a baseball bat as well!" :p
[One (M7) General] khein:
Not really a deal breaker but a 32GB internal + 32GB microSD storage will certainly be cheaper than a 64GB internal. And a 32GB internal + 64GB microSD might still be cheaper that a 64GB internal.

I don't mind if I can't install most/some of my apps on the microSD since most of my storage will be occupied by media files.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
I'll use USB for movies and TV shows and internal for Zoes (no choice in the latter :p)

Sent from my DHD
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
Why would you keep them on your phone? There are made to be shared, you could share them to ZoeShare and forget about most of them.
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
If I want them to vanish 30 days later, sure.

But the point is that with the Zoe system active, every photo you take is AUTOMATICALLY 20 photos plus a video, and you'll need to do additional selection and processing for each picture to convert them into single images. You can't apply Zoe retroactively - if there's any chance at all that you might want to do Zoe-like stuff to a photo (like, for example, painting out moving objects) you have to keep the 20-photos-and-a-video capture turned on all the time.
[One (M7) General] dragzer223:
Well for me 32GB is pretty much enough. I'm not to fond of playing games on phones and videos and such is where my tablet comes in handy. I will mostly use this for music and I think 32GB is good for now...my mind might change when I get the phone though haha.
[One (M7) General] CrazyTechnoBoy:
I don't really care that it won't have an SD card. The only problem I imagine having is the time it's gonna take to transfer all my music (+20GB) to the phone.
[One (M7) General] tehdef:
I've driven across America. Never had no service. If you live in bfe... Not my fault you small minority you.
[One (M7) General] metalfan78:
Having service everywhere does not equal good data speeds everywhere though.
[One (M7) General] BenPope:
I drove from the UK to Mongolia, I wasn't gonna pay roaming charges in nearly 20 countries, or buy 20 SIMs each for 2 days use.

The phone needs storage, not everything can be in the cloud, even when I'm on a plane flying through clouds I have no data!
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Funny how people now tend to rely always on cloud servers. I myself don't want to entrust anything I own to someone/somebody/something that I don't even know personally.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
9 times out of 10 you would have a copy of the files on your main pc/laptop, and it's not like your music is highly sensitive information that can't be entrusted to online storage.

Plus, how personally do you know the person in the bank who is holding on to your cash?
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
That's not exactly an everyday solution for most people though!
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Depends where you are. My parents live in the south west of England. Down there you get a decent signal when driving through one of the larger towns, but between them you sometimes don't get a signal at all, and when you do it's usually 2G-only.
[One (M7) General] ferincr:
For me it seems like the more I read the more convinced I am that I can put up with it.

Like many others, I would rather have those features since sometimes I'm without the posibility to charge the phone for few days and carring extra batts is a nice option to keep the phone alive for few days. Ok, I can do with a power bank type battery that I can recharge/run the phone for longer times but if on top of that I don't have external SD card and need to use OTG extra memory then the posibility of running/charging the phone at the same time with a power bank is gone.

As somebody mentioned...the fact that Apple did it does not mean that we android users want it too, there is a reason why we stick to a Android phones and refuse to switch, we like to tinker, tweak and make the most of our gadgets and this change goes against what we want from our phones.

If we were the kind of people we like to grab our electronics of the shelf and use them as is then we would be buying Mac products.

At least that's the way I see it...

Plus,

64Gb micro SD $60

difference between 32Gb and 64Gb phone $186

I can get 3x micro SD for the same price
[One (M7) General] Tunasty:
I definitely need a phone with SD card because internal memory is never enough for me.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Not a big deal to me. I can easily manage with 16GB on a nexus 4, so 32GB on a HTC One would be loads.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
No problem for me either.
[One (M7) General] Blogis:
depends on phone , and what you do with it :)
[One (M7) General] reddragon72:
@Shasarak

On the price difference. One word... NAND.

NAND is a different type of memory compared to what you get in a disk on key. DOK memory modules are typically slower and not made to last as long. The memory used in a cell phone is different and of higher speed.

As for everyone else.

It is funny how the simple talk of not enough storage or no SDcard can totally dwarf battery time.

To those that calculate 2000 songs on the internal memory at roughly 3min a piece @ 196 bit rate = 10gb of storage used = 100 hours of music. Your battery will be long dead before that 100 hours is reached. LOL

I'm not hacking on anyone, but you can carry all the music you want for a variety but that doesn't mean you will get to listen to all your favorites :)
[One (M7) General] SirSigma:
I could live with 32GB with adjustments to my music collection, but I would strongly prefer 64GB. Having only 16GB is a joke and not an option for me whatsoever at this point.

Battery isn't really an issue for me because I have a 11,000+ mAh external charger.
[One (M7) General] kenshi1023:
i wouldn't even need to think twice about the One if it came with an sd slot...

the issue isn't about storage space but more about storage pricing...

it's just like how some one already posted in respect to the pricing of the unit.

a 32gb One + 32gb sd will most likely be cheaper than a 64gb One...

so for me, the bottom line is if the 64gb One is about 100$ more than the 32gb One, that could be a deal breaker. :)

so do the right think hTC! be reasonable, don't be crapple... please.
[One (M7) General] flyaway9000:
Well I have had my htc one X 32gb for about 12 months now an I still have 10gb left an I take alot of pictures plus I have 8gb of music. So 32gb is more than enough. plus removable battery I have never bought a second battery ever
[One (M7) General] aydc:
It wouldn't be much of a problem if 32 GB model wasn't actually 26 GB. As I carry around 17 GB worth of mp3s with me all the time, it's a big issue.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Its not a big deal for me at all. I can use a 16GB n4 fine :) it isn't even full
[One (M7) General] Jfree3000:
Any Sprint users in here, cloud storage be damned! Unlimited data sounds good but using a cloud based service on Sprint is agonizing (for me at least). Currently rolling with the s3 but the one looks nice.

Google music is good but pulling large files from dropbox in my experience is hell. 64 gigs would probably be more than I need but it's good to know it's there. Alas, off contact pricing for the one is insane and I'm sure I'm stuck with my s3.

:(
[One (M7) General] ksarius:
Actually the non removable battery is good for me since I live in Brazil lol

As many people get stolen, it would suck to have an app such as Cerberus and not be able to track the device if the robber removed the battery like in sg3

That's the good side of it lol
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
The answer to our problems :( I just wish it will come sooner in the future.
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
I was worried about no SD card too so at first did not consider getting an HTC ONE then someone mentioned something on twitter and I then realised I had over 100GB unused on the 2 cloud storage services I use and then there was Google Music or Amazon Player for streaming music not on my device, I was already 100% upgrading to a plan offering unlimited data with my next contract so why not combine everything I've paid for and actually use it for once.

All my doubts went away and I hit Buy on the CPW site
[One (M7) General] endjexejac@hotmail.com:
It becomes a problem only when some fanboys just need a reason to hate a brilliant phone :D
[One (M7) General] hunter-S-T:
is there anything like this available right now? doesn't need to be 128 gig. 32 or 64 would do.

i can just find those adabter cables to connect an usb-stick.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
64gb isnt enough, i want to store raw format 1080p (MOD EDIT//innapropriate terminology//) that uses like 50gb for 1 hour long movie. i need 1tb sdcards
[One (M7) General] omnius1:
removable batteries and sd cards have pretty much only been a meme for Samsung faboys IMO. "gots to have remuvible batteri and sd kard or fail derp" Yeah... go watch another episode of Honey Boo Boo mouth breather. They're worse and more tech-challenged now than the most obnoxious iPhone fanboys

ever

were.
[One (M7) General] stompazorb:
One issue with 64 GB is that if you use the phone as a thumbdrive in a BD-player or smart-TV, they probably cannot recognize the drive when it's so big, unless they are spankling new devices.
[One (M7) General] myself11:
If Google wants to impose the iTrend of no external storage, needs to update it's internal sdcard filesystem - FAT 32 is obsolete and does not allow 4gb+ files.
[One (M7) General] stompazorb:
What exactly is that?

How about this?
[One (M7) General] myself11:
How do you connect HML and USB OTG at the same time?
[One (M7) General] stompazorb:
Then you'll need the special HDMI dividercable.
[One (M7) General] myself11:
The usb slot is to charge the MHL connection, it isn't a usb otg slot.
[One (M7) General] stompazorb:
Well, then you'll need a USB-Hub i guess.

Take a peek at these crazy guys...

[YOUTUBE]46IiRyigUH0[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] myself11:
I can't be entirely sure, but I think when he's demoing the mhl connection, the keyboard and mouse are connected through bluetooth. The usb hub is for connecting multiple devices, but not simultaneously with mhl.

The only device I've heard that can do that is an official Galaxy Note dock. It's hard to get and I don't know if it works on non Samsung-devices, since at least SIII had a proprietery 11 pin MHL output. I guess the same happens with Note 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hy3wETf5o0

EDIT: "If you want to buy a HDTV (MHL HDMI) adapter for the Galaxy Note 2, it is the exact same adapter for that Galaxy S3 that is 11-pin, even though the model numbers are different. 5-pin MHL adapters (for Galaxy S2) don't work on the Galaxy Note 2."

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1958539

Back on topic: a sd-slot is handy. For some guys is not important, for others is, but I can't understand how it's a good thing not having sd-slot.
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
my heart stopped for a moment .. the Sandisk Cruze is awesome .. they should really make a micro usb version!
[One (M7) General] stompazorb:
I've only heard that it minimizes risks of crashes and programmers can rely on specs of the hardware.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Yeah but still a wishful thinking for us. :D How about we ask sandisk for this? I'm sure if alot of users ask then they'll make one.
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Personally, having no SD card slot really isn't a problem because I won't really go through that much space on my One anyway.

Most of my content (all my films & my high end games) are all stored on my N7 anyway so that's a lot of stuff not needed on the One. Even if I do run out of storage at any point, I'll just store content online if needed.

Sent via my HTC One using XDA Premium
[One (M7) General] Maeldor:
While it's not a problem for me, I do think it's a shame there is no option for expandable memory. It could never hurt to have the option, and it'd just be another thing to add to the list that this is the best phone at the moment.

It's certainly not a deal breaker for me. I've managed (just about) with 8 GB on my DHD for the past two years.
[One (M7) General] myself11:
Also, without SD Card or removable battery, you become very dependent of the USB Port, since it's the only way to gain access to your internal memory or charge the phone. If it get's faulty, there's no workaround.
[One (M7) General] backfromthestorm:
Its weird how reviewers and samsung fans make a big thing of not having a removeable sd.

They say, the space fills up which means you have to rely on an internet connection and upload to dropbox etc, or delete your files.... NEVER have I seen anyone acknowledge that we have these little cables that link phone and pc together nowadays, so why does anyone need to actually REMOVE the storage? Beats me.

But I wish people were actually reminded free space is only a cut&paste away in more of these reviews.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Bluetooth, Wi-Fi ...
[One (M7) General] Nekromantik:
I dont mind uploading stuff to the cloud but only problem being when your on 3G you use your data up just uploading photos, videos and backups to the cloud.

If you have wifi everywhere then it wont be a problem but thats not a option in most areas of the UK.

I am going to miss having a SD card slot but I still pre ordered my One.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
It is an option in most areas of the UK. Even semi-rural and rural areas have places with free Wi-Fi.

You just have to make an effort to find them. A bit of planning goes a long way and saves a lot of money.
[One (M7) General] backfromthestorm:
This is what I mean, you have a pc? Do you not move files onto that? Or a hardrive? You can still do that, just cant actually remove the sd... by why need to when you can move everything on it by usb cable.
[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
A little over two years ago, I was carrying around my digital camera, my mp3 player, my phone and sometimes a GPS receiver. But they did not all fit into my pockets without making me look like a (worse) dork, so I bought an HTC smartphone (with better specs than the EVO), so that I could carry all of those tools in a single pocket.

I think most people can relate to that, at least!

I bought a 32 GB SD card for my phone to hold my music collection, a couple movies for long trips, and lots of photos and apps.

Now two years later, the best HTC smartphone has 7 times the processing power, a much brighter screen with 5 times the resolution, a much higher quality camera, sound and build quality....

... BUT less storage space than I could get two years ago.

I don't care what people say about cloud.... CLOUD IS NOT THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING!!!

In fact, cloud is not the answer for a lot of people!!!
[One (M7) General] Nekromantik:
I do have a PC and a laptop yes but my point was in a emergency when I am not near a PC I could move stuff to SD card and remove it and keep it in case the phone was damaged rather then waiting until I got home.

Im not saying its a deal breaker, like I said I already pre ordered my One and am super excited!