yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 10 Android Development] SacTappingUni:
This made me reconsider something. It would actually be a horrible idea to incorporate anything else into Halo for the tablets. If Halo was a multi-window hack on tablets but then a notification service on phones, that would fragment its functionality and people would get confused over what it really was. I think a much better idea would be to base an entirely new tablet service with multi-window support that was based around Halo's functionality. Then later we could see how to integrate them together on the tablet.

We could possibly name the multi-window service "Halo Ghost". Both as a relatively accurate description of its functionality (sans a giant "multi window" title in its name) and as an ironic homage to the fact that the new CoD game will be named ghost... and this service is named Halo.

If we streamlined the size of the Ghost windows to be the aspect ratio and size of a Nexus 4, it would be much easier to get the service to run well across all devices with minimal changes. The only device-specfic settings would be the amount of windows allowed on the display at a single time.:good: In the eyes of a consumer who doesn't care much for complicated services and fragmentation, this feature would be a major win.

So in theory, Halo Ghost may never end up in the upstream code. However if it's cross-tablet compatible, a new team of devs could maintain the feature and send it out to all PA builds for appropriately sized tablets.

This is based off of what I think I know. Some things may be false. The idea is definitely open for improvement. After all, it's still in the brainstorming stage.

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Also I believe that this theme discussion is off-topic. I PM'd Attack_Dog when I wanted to know more about his desktop theme. The entire discussion shouldn't take up almost an entire page in a development thread.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
I think we all need to rise up and get them to split the features. I HATE the halo/chat head crap. every mention I've seen of that has been ignored.

I post it every time there's a new update that there should be a per app setting for windowed mode, as well as the addition of a full screen "windowed" applications. even the n4 being the main platform, I dont see the sense in making apps so small
[Nexus 10 Android Development] SacTappingUni:
I don't see the problem with the halo notification. I understand that some people might dislike it. However if you don't like the halo bubble, and you prefer that the apps launched from a notification open in full screen, I can happily tell you that both of these features have been present since 2008 :)

While I don't mean to sound like a jackass, that's really all I got from your post.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
... OK let me use more accurate words. windowed mode(more accurately called asynchronized applications) existed before halo. aka, applications can be launched with NO interruption to underlaying applications. apps like YouTube benefit from lack of interruption. apps like SMS popups are less interrupting.

a fullscreen asynced app option would be very useful on small screens to actually make use of the a synced applications with little hassle trying to read something in the small window.

the reason I dont like halo is because its required just for the asynced applications. for those with tablet ui, the "halo" itself is completely redundant besides it acting as a asynced launcher, one that I find myself moving more than using.

by allowing a choice of per-app async, you allow those with alternate(and often payed for) launching methods(aka sidebars, gestures and even notification launchers) to make use of asyncing smoothly without any hiccup or potentially redundant ui elements. allowing this apps to full screen stops issues trying to type in small "windows" as mentioned before

I am understanding that its all alpha still in age, but striking issues like this break in their per-app paradigm in this ADD style fit of development while its young helps make things easier to handle later on links tablet ui integration and moles intent to avoid feature duplication.

dont get me wrong, I like what they've done with it, halo by itself is turning into just the feature pa needs to fill in the ticker gap for expanded desktop, but making another powerful and separate feature(it existed before halo, check the videos) dependent on it is the part I dont like about it.

on a more personal point, I love the tablet ui, I love that they chose to keep it going. tablet ui shade can be triggered while in expanded screen, and IMO the tablet ui shade and tickers are better than halo and pies rather slim for a full screen kinda look.

again, all alpha, all still subject to change, but I think the point is that I'm not unfounded in my words, even when others dont share them.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] s1m4an:
Now I might be wrong, but the way I see it Halo is just a notification replacement. The good thing is that the multi Window code is in place and once it's finished more apps will be able to utilize it. The way PA thinks and codes ATM is focused to get it working on a phone UI, but I'm sure once everything is done more great things will come for us tablet users. On the other hand I also dislike the concept of Halo, I find that pie + Notifier Pro works much better for me, and I'm hoping it will be possible to open notifications in a small Window.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] iamikon:
You guys might want to check out floating notifications :)

KT747 powered blurple GS3 - Helped? Hit thanks!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] gnvkittu:
Problem With Users ( NEXUS 10)

Rom wrks very very perfectly on Nexus 10

the only issue is when created users

once created a new user the new user and the old user gets the same notifications

and also problems start like hanging and restarts

Is there any solution i can go thru

thank you very much :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] OldGaf:
The pie looks diff in this ROM from the official. Is it possible to use the one in this in the official one?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
I'm going to update when I get back into own on Sunday. What do you mean it looks different?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] OldGaf:
I believe it is an actual 1/2 circle with the straight side being parallel to the edge of the phone. it looked much better imo.... it may have been an older ver of this ROM.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Go to pie controls and change pie angle to none
[Nexus 10 Android Development] OldGaf:
ah... cool... it must have been on by default before.. thanks!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] natsirt789:
apascual89, is the usb OTG working in these recent releases? or is there a separate fix I can flash?

much appreciated for this :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
I have no problem with otg
[Nexus 10 Android Development] natsirt789:
cool are you using the latest build from here? guess i'll have to do a flash, unless a new version is coming out soon in which case i'll wait a bit :D

Oh yeah, i've only ever flashed apascual89's roms once, if i do it again, can I use the same GAPPS.zip from before?? I dont think the ones on Goo.im look right lol.

cheers!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
I dont remember of its apascuals or Jaybobs but its a halo 10 build. and I use the gapps that PA provides. never had an issue.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] natsirt789:
lol i just tested my usb otg again and it works. a few weeks ago trying the same process of connecting via stickmount did not work at all. weird. all is good now :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
New Build Up

Finally updated build!! Check PA github for changes. Too many to list here.

Notable change HALO master switch to turn it on and off.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
master switch?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
There's a option in settings to turn it on or off.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
is that official mod or just you?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Official, not me. It's pretty much going to be like before, I'll put out builds in between the official releases.

The major difference is that mine is built with the cm kernel.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
ah okies. I didnt hear news of that. makes me wonder if they couldn't get the tablet ui to work with the halo switch.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] natsirt789:
Is there USB otg in this latest release? :D
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Keith Patrick:
I've been waiting for this! I'm going to have to give this ROM a shot.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] supremazy:
Guys I want this Halo feature. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5WljHcOyXs&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I downloaded the Halo app from store and enabled the Halo from settings.But it just pin the apps on notification.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
the halo/multi window feature is not an app. its baked into Roms. you have to root/flash your system to a paranoid android ROM, or one that include as the pa patches like pacman or something.

you might want to look into how to root your device and how to flash other Roms to it. this is semthing you might want to do some research for before diving right in.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] kaivalya97:
Switch to phone or phablet UI in paranoid preferences. Then swipe down from the top left of the screen to expand notifications and then click on the blue circle.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] supremazy:
[MENTION=4217571]dakunesu[/MENTION] I have paranoidandroid 3.60 - 17 Jun version in my nexus 10.

It's working now thank you for all.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Updated Build

Fresh new build in the op!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] gfunk0311:
gapps

Is it possible for you guys to make gapps download any slower?? 30 mins on a 50mbs connection is insane for a file of this size
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
We can definitely try! Remember it's a FREE hosting service provided to you for FREE...

But I'm not part of the PA team or the goo.im team, so your complaints will not help in this thread.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] gfunk0311:
perhaps dev-host will solve this issue. goo.im is known to be slow.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
I'll set up a mirror with the latest pa gapps when I get home
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
haha, not for nothing, but I remember the good old days of dial up, and given most things now a days being even free, much less fast and free should be considered a gift.

on other notes, is this build including the initial cm privacy or has it been updated with the privacy front end?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dedeaux:
It works for me with the latest version of this ROM. I can't report on earlier versions as I just defected from another ROM to PA 3+ this week.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
haha and two days before the next pa update :P
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
BT not working...
[Nexus 10 Android Development] gbeardmore:
+1 - Been running v3.65 since it came out on the 8th without issue. ( it was a dirty flash over 3.60) Just tried turning on BT for the first time though and it won't turn on. Restored v3.60 and BT works flawlessly.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] supremazy:
My mini hdmi is not working.I can't get screen on my lcd tv.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] hidehong:
This is a great rom. But I had a issue that OTG using Adata S102 PRO 32GB USB3 Flash Drive.

I can use on CM10.1, but can't use on your rom. Can be fix it? Thanks:good:
[Nexus 10 Android Development] natsirt789:
try using StickMount from chainfire. works for me :)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] hidehong:
Thanks for suggestion. But last night i have flash another kernal, then it work!!:good:But still test for stability.

Sorry for my poor english:crying:
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
How about a 4.3 build? Anyone interested?
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
Yes sir! Been waiting for this post for awhile!

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@apascual89 how's their gerritt looking? Haven't had time to look for a couple of days. Are all of the conflicts and such worked out?

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It's a little slow in here at the moment... But, if you build it, they will come. Lol
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
It's getting there. They're working hard to get it finished. It's booting and no major bugs. Some stuff is not working like hybrid properties and some root issues.

This is definitely a preview of what's coming from the PA team. Not finished, but I since I'm playing around with it I thought it would be fair to share :D
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
You know how I am. Always down for a crash test.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
4.3 Preview

Here's a 4.3 preview build, expect bugs. Use a 4.3 gapps package only. Google will give you a few results.

pa_manta-3.90-20130730.zip - 143.73 MB

This is possible because of the work put in by the PA team. I used [MENTION=2178960]pulser_g2[/MENTION] device and kernel trees ( thanks!).

Full wipe if coming from 4.2 required so back up.

Root is kinda flaky, flash the supersu zip
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
Bout to go pull my 10 off of the charger!

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I'm still going through my setup, but so far I'm loving it. I'm staying away from DPI since you said that was still a WIP.

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Ok, this root issue is strange. It granted root to a couple apps and allowed me to use them, but when I went to install busybox, it had an error with root.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] halrulez:
Pulser_g2 really has rocked it.

I have a 7 page essay to write and this comes out dang it.......

Looks like I'll be up all night again.

Thanks for the preview
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
It's really smooth. Only issue is DPI settings won't stick.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] halrulez:
Confirmed. No DPI no nothing sticks..... So sad. I was able to get root to work fully by flashing a supersu 1.43zip I have then rebooting, updating the binaries though twrp and not normal setting. I was hoping at that time the pa personalisation would work but no ball.

I'll upload it if anyone wants a copy of the zip. But I am heading back to cm 10 till the pa settings are all worked out.

Was great though having the tablet ui navbar back though. Man I miss it.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] tigger2014:
You can change dpi e.t.c but manually if you have a root file mananger you can go to system\etc\paranoid and then its properties.conf which you can edit with a text editor then save and reboot
[Nexus 10 Android Development] halrulez:
I did do that as well. But once I started editing pa's files apps started to close and then even settings just kept closing on me. I will have patience for this one. A great trait I learned from having 3 kids.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
There are commits from PA and Cyanogenmod that hopefully fix the built in superuser. I'll be working late, but I'll try to build and update tonight.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
You sir, are a godsend for my tablet.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Here are the 4.3 PA gapps.

https://plus.google.com/107979589566958860409/posts/RAZtivDzEhV
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Update will be tomorrow. Sorry worked late.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] JNewms:
Get rested up. I'm still content with the one you pushed last night.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] svil3:
just want to say that I love you apascual89 haha

thanks a lot for all the hard work
[Nexus 10 Android Development] MeteoricYCX:
Few days not being here and the great pa 3.9 is comming. Excited for the next build.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
New Build Up

PaPrefs working now! Let me know and confirm they are working for you guys.

pa_manta-3.91-20130802.zip - 145.50 MB

I think I'll start a new 4.3 thread.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] sttovo:
PAPrefs working fine for me! Thank you!!!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Thanks for feedback.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Hyflex:
Thanks ever so much, I'm just installing it right now. I wish this Nexus 10 build would stay upto date with the nexus 4 :/
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
If everything goes well it will....
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Hyflex:
Looks good so far, I'm only missing one option so far and that's under toolbars for navigation controls to enable the seperate menu button and also add a search button if you want.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] halrulez:
OK so I did a full wipe everything. Then installed pa first. No root on boot again so I had to flash the the supersu 1.51 had root but still couldn't get any pa preferences to stick? Decided to say f it and install pagapps then do a reboot but still no dice guy. What did everyone else do to get pa preferences to stick?

Shoot. N/m I'm a dumb donkey. Downloaded the 7/30 build again. Downloading the right one now. I am sure it will work now
[Nexus 10 Android Development] kaivalya97:
[MENTION=3515982]apascual89[/MENTION] Why don't you sign up as the official maintainer for manta of PA? http://bit.ly/10nkUGS

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[/COLOR [MENTION=3515982]apascual89[/MENTION] Why don't you sign up as the official maintainer for manta of PA? http://bit.ly/10nkUGS

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Are there any particular steps to follow to flash 4.3 build? For the Nexus 4, we need to update radio and bootloader.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Attack_Dog:
The latest build is running flawlessly fast. Thanks for the builds!
[Nexus 10 Android Development] halrulez:
Ditto runs great just wish it had the aosp keyboard
[Nexus 10 Android Development] MeteoricYCX:
Test it and most part works good. Root is OK, but google+ and camera FC sometimes. Not sure whether it because I'm using the wrong gapps. I flashed 7.31 pagapps, now I'll flash pagapps 8.02 to have a try.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] cpuks:
I get FC with FX File Explorer.

And I don't have any icons in notification visible in Tablet mode - check this out and confirm please. On phablet mode notification icons are visible.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
with halo enabled, tablet won't show the icons(dunno if intentional)
[Nexus 10 Android Development] cpuks:
Change in HybridProperites to phablet mode - it works there, except this no problems so far.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] MeteoricYCX:
This issue happened before android 4.3 . I'm looking for the solution either.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] jtkes693:
Anyone getting an immediate force close when trying to look at storage in the settings menu
[Nexus 10 Android Development] wturner859:
The update that popped up today in the ota updater; was that yours or was that official coming through? I updated either way (it was 8-3)

My titanium didn't work... I assume it was because I was coming from 4.2...sooo that was fun re downloading everything lol.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Hyflex:
The 3.92 update was the official version from jaybob413, thread link if you need it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2390952
[Nexus 10 Android Development] drguild:
Anyone else cant get into the Storage tab in the Settings on 4.3 / PA 3.92

Keeps crashing the settings everytime I click on it want to make sure thats a bug with the Nexus 10 build and not just me.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] drguild:
NOT HAPPY!!

After updating to Android 4.3 PA 3.92 I can no longer connect my tablet to USB.

android.process.media instantly crashes, putting it into debug android command can't see the device, I get no MTP file browser.

I'm going to have to use and hopefully if it works use something like snapea or es file explorer over wireless to backup my device.

Got in via the ES FTP server.

For now if you don't want the risk of bricking your device
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
uhh, yeah, unfortunately that does bare repeating. even root right now isn't working right, its the nature of modding the androids.

confirmed
[Nexus 10 Android Development] drguild:
*Embarrassed* skipping words and grammar in that last post sometimes my mind runs too fast for my brain to type out etc.

So apologies if It seemed weird.

I'm backing stuff up on ES file browser ftp as thats me into the SDcard.

Im thankful thats a brilliant app and many useful features despite it mby appearing bloaty for some its all useful stuff if you need it like I do now..

I'm sure PA only/mainly focused on the N4 and N7 from what I read in there Google+ posts over the last weeks as thats the only devices they mentioned at all.

So seems this 4.3 may have been rushed out to Manta etc. Its a shame when stuff gets rushed or not properly tested because of all the whining kids on their google+ who expected 1 hour after they made the announcement they were doing there first initial test merge of code.

Out of curiosity anyone updated the bootloader to the official 4.3, I did from the official Google Manta 4.3 package and noticed its slightly longer to get to the google logo now.

So I don't know if theres extra checks or something in the bootloader now or something may be a issue.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] dakunesu:
I have both n4 and n10, and as of right now the n10 is functioning more in that my root apps are actually functional. but the storage window is failing to load. past that they are identical in issues, I dont think there's a favorite at the moment.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] drguild:
Once I get all this backed up I'm unsure If I want to try again with PA another rom or stock or what to really put on. I may do a full reflash of stock even redoing the bootloader etc and go from there later.

I know I need a clean start at least cause MTP wasn't showing the Nexus 10 in the last 4.2 version of PA.

Moved to PA after Cyanogen kept crashing and rebooting randomly and this seemed more stable.

Tried the pink unicorn AOKP but I just didn't really personally connect with it for some reason.

Dunno if I had just a bad flash to get the MTP crashing.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] apascual89:
Ok first of all there isn't a chance even a slight chance of bricking your device when flashing this. It would never ever happen. So let me repeat that for those reading this thread : This could never ever brick your device. Not being able to connect your tablet through usb is a bug not a bricked device. Here's what I said when I posted the first preview build

I'm not part of the PA team so don't criticize them for what I do in this thread. I just shared this 4.3 build because it booted up fine and just thought some of you might like to see what was in the works from the PA team. So they didn't rush anything and I clearly stated to expect bugs. In the future if you don't want to deal with bugs, dont flash something that is clearly marked "expect bugs".

The PA team released their official manta 4.3 build. You might want to check that one out. Thread is here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2390952

I'm probably closing this thread for now for now bacause the official 4.3 build is out.
[Nexus 10 Android Development] Hyflex:
Ignore the whining idiot, we appreciate your efforts :)