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[One (M7) General] astro0:
BIG DEAL

It seems to be a big deal only to those who are struggling to find fault with the One

I used to own a computer with 1 k of ram which I then upgraded to 16 k and loaded games and programs off a cassette lol

My first real pc had a 500 mb hard drive eventually I ran out of storage

Currently I have a 5 tb network drive about 3/4 full won't be too long before that's full too but only cause I'm too lazy to delete all the c**p

the point beeing it don't matter how big just what u do with it lol

So no it ain't no big deal unless all ur interested in is moaning and whinging and trying to justify ur decision not to buy

Seen as I got a free upgrade and am now in possession of an amazing piece of tech do I care that I haven't got the option to plug in an extra bit of memory or take the battery out (to admire it or something )

No BIG DEAL
[One (M7) General] slapdaddy:
I'm not struggling to find fault with the One and I think its a huge problem. I actually calculated out how much space I needed in another thread and I totaled out at just under 79GB I believe.

Keep in mind that for higher quality music files, namely .flac files, and 1080p movies, which are very large in size, you NEED a lot of space. 64GB just doesn't cut it these days. And sometimes you won't have access to cloud services because there ARE dead zones where you can't get a signal.

Until manufacturers start putting 128GB+ in phones' internal storage, many people won't buy a phone that doesn't have a storage expansion slot. The Galaxy S3 swamped the One X and One X+. The GS3 had an expansion slot. Is that to say its the only reason the GS3 outsold those phones? No, not at all. But I'm sure it played a part for most people and played a major part for many.

I've said this before and I'll say it again - and it annoys me that people are so small-minded to think this way....Just because 64GB is enough for you or others, doesn't mean that everybody else is the same. It's as simple as that.

Edit: And I'm not moaning or whining about it. I'm simply buying another phone that has storage expansion. Not everybody is like you, bud. Everybody is different.

Oh and by the way, proper spelling and punctuation go a long way.

I'm not a Samsung fan at all. Every phone I've owned for the last 6/7 year's has been an HTC device. Your reasoning is flawed.

And yes there are cables to hook up our phones to our computers so we can....transfer data! Don't insult anybody's intelligence by being a sarcastic ***. That's a data transfer method, not a storage space issue. Some don't want to delete data to make room. Some people just want to store their data on their phone so they can have access to it without being tethered to a computer. Some want to live without being permanently connected to a cloud data service. Not everybody is like you.

Fanboys.....

Sent from my HTC Vivid.
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
I couldn't agree more.
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
The storage doesn't generally need to be removable.

Well, not these days, anyway. It used to be. On my old HTC HD2, if I took the card out of the phone and stuck it in a card reader I could transfer files at roughly three times the speed that I could transfer them with the card inside the phone. On my Galaxy S2, transfers to and from the card are much faster than transfers to and from in-phone storage, but whether the card is in the phone or not makes relatively little difference. But on the One that's no longer the problem it once was.

However, what people want is the ability to customise the amount of storage in the phone cheaply, and after purchase. The Chinese version of the One, for example, has an SD card slot and 32GB of on-board storage as well. So a Chinese user can buy the phone, try it for a while, and see if 32GB is enough; if it is, great; if it isn't he can (relatively cheaply) expand it to 96GB by adding a card. Users outside China don't have that option. (Sure, one can use OTG, but that's extra bulk, extra wires, extra battery drain... it's not an adequate substitute for having storage inside the phone).

If one could buy a 96GB version of the phone, and it cost the same as it costs to buy the 32GB version plus a 64GB memory card, I don't think you'd have so many complaints. But the 64GB version of the phone isn't yet available at all, and there's no guarantee that, when and if it is, it'll be at a sensible price.
[One (M7) General] slewis1972:
Interesting thread. I am coming from a Samsung S2, and can only see the One with 64gb as viable for my needs. I can get over the battery situation, but not the storage. I agree with others, those that have a music collection on their phone, along with videos, 32gb is not enough. You then throw in the issue of rooting, and using custom roms. In those situations you may want nandroid backups. I personally have a 32gb microsd card, and its virtually fully with my music, podcasts, and videos (for on the train, gym etc), and the internal memory is close to full. Oh, and if anyone uses say Sygic or Tomtom GPS, you will need storage for the maps. And anyone who will take alot of pictures & videos of the family etc - this all consumes space. So for my needs, 64gb is the only option, I just hope its out soon.
[One (M7) General] mrej201:
why pay extra for 64gb when you can buy a class 10 sd card for 20 to 40 bucks
[One (M7) General] XxVcVxX:
If you even have a SD Card slot, if your USB port becomes faulty, you still can't charge it dude. Flawed reasoning dude.

Sent from something that's BETTER THAN YOURS
[One (M7) General] DjPredatorgr:
hello everyone!!!!! i have a question...Can you use usb otg on the HTC ONE without root???Does HTC ONE support usb otg out of the box???
[One (M7) General] cds0699:
Well this pissed me off and will surely piss off more of you. Looks like AT&T has got exclusivity to the 64gb variant of the htc one. I really hate all this exclusivity bs.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/03/30/att-nabs-exclusive-on-the-htc-one-64gb-in-the-u-s/
[One (M7) General] lorddart:
... The charging statement is related to the removable battery bud. Which you can still charge with an external battery charger. So make sure to think before attacking someone's statement, bud. ;)
[One (M7) General] r2001uk:
A bit late to the party, but the lack of SD card shouldn't be a problem for me. When I opted to send my Xperia Z back and swap for a HTC One (which I'm still waiting for thanks to the bank holidays), I accepted that I'd be settling for a 16Gb non-expandable phone. I was chuffed to see that it actually comes in a minimum of 32Gb!

If I ever get tight for space, I do have an OTG cable and plenty of USB sticks so I'd never be short.
[One (M7) General] DjPredatorgr:
Anyone??
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
If I am not mistaken HTC have said that USB OTG is supported out of the box with the HTC One.

I certainly hope so because I have a small flash drive otw.
[One (M7) General] katamari201:
I feel empowered sticking things inside holes.
[One (M7) General] thronnos:
I see it like this. When your going on a trip you pack and plan. If I knew I was gonna be on a few hour plane ride without service I would bring a 2 hour movie and maybe 1 album of music.

More than enough. So why do you need 32gigs of music and movies for a 2 hour flight?

I use Google Music for everything. It works great. I also have music in Cloud Storage. So if I need it in can quickly download what I need and leave then when I reach a destination or layover I can spend 5 minutes to switch to new stuff.

I have an 8 gig sd card. Which I filled up. But I have a 16 gig now which is less than half full. And this includes 4 Roms 4 backups and numerous TiBu stuff. All compressed.

I use TiBu to manage my system storage as well. It's easy and all one click.

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Plus to add on. USB OTG is cheap and easy. And supported out of the box

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[One (M7) General] DjPredatorgr:
Are you sure that it is supported out of the box???i hear somewhere that supports only FAT32 files....So if this is true,then we still need a new kernel version...Right???
[One (M7) General] eyecon82:
Agreed. Such BS. HTC is shooting themselves in the foot. I was going to get the htc one, but only in 64 and I'm not switching to att
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Developers Edition?
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Not if you're Sprint!

Sent using the xda-developers app.
[One (M7) General] thronnos:
Ahh. Right. That might be the case. Maybe an externally powered OTG

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[One (M7) General] diggedy:
Not having an sd card slot was a deal breaker for me which is why I never bought a nexus. I figured if my phone ever broke, I would have all my stuff on the sd card. Now, with instant dropbox backup, it doesn't matter to me any more, even if the phone is stolen, very little would be lost
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Totally agree with that, SD card was a must ,but now, it's merely a "nice to have" for me. same for the removable battery thing, as I found myself always forgets to charge the spare battery.
[One (M7) General] stesa:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3-in-1-OT...ory_Card_Readers_Adapters&hash=item3cd056b33b

stop *****ing now
[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
Ya... that's a much better solution than a built in memory card!

Hey! Maybe they could get rid of the touch sensor and evolve into a much more en vogue joystick for user input, and then you can give me a link to a corded mouse!!
[One (M7) General] khein:
Hahaha. Not sure if serious or just pulling an April's fool joke. :silly:

If serious, I hope HTC also releases an adapter like that, which goes with the One's gorgeous design. :D
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
Not a deal breaker at all.

When I realised that jelly bean means internal memory can only be used for apps, actually a 32gb or 64gb fixed memory was more advantages. Take the S4 or Note 2. In 16gb versions, 12gb is available for everything but also only apps too. Apps cannot go on the sd card.

And with cloud services it less of an issue too.
[One (M7) General] khein:
But you forget that 32GB and 64GB(only for S4 afaik) versions of this devices also exists. So its actually unfair to compare a 16GB model to a 32GB/64GB HTC One. You don't want a 64GB phone compared to a 32GB HTC One, when there is also a 64GB One, right? :highfive:

I hope HTC releases the 64GB immediately. I just hate it when phone companies don't release all models at the same time. Though, I can surely survive on a 32GB model, but a 64GB is surely welcome. :D
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
I haven't seen anywhere yet offering a 32 or 64gb S4. If either materialised then that would be better. Until you can buy the larger memory it's just myth.
[One (M7) General] Hudrator:
AW: No SDcard... is it really that big of a deal...

Supporting the statement that the cloud is not a solution.

Most people i know, have contracts with an datalimit between 300 and 200 MB.

Cloud is an option , when you have a wifi connection or maybe LTE without datalimit.

But we also have to take a look at the users...

You are claiming, that there are a lot people that won't buy the One because oft memory shortage. But maybe they aren't the target for HTC...

I can remember statements from HTC , that their polls showed, that users want a slim mobile. The same poll showed, that users would accept lower Akku capacity / build in battery to achieve this.

Thats what they have done.

I think it is the same with the storage. Really think about an average user. He does not care about that.

For example think oft all the IPhone users (i dont bash them, the IPhone itself or any Product with an Apple. Good products for many users and a superb marketing). I think we all will agree that it is a kind of Symbol in our societys. So many people want to have it. But the ammount of people saying "i need min. 64 GB storage" or "min 2000mAh" is really small. ( To be honest, most people who care are people reading in places like xda :D)

And this kind of behaviour is, what every company aims for. Maybe it is the "Holy Grail" of marketing... ;)

And even HTC does.

So the main points for Marketing:

- You are able to view Videos in Full HD

- You are able to listen to music in high quality

BUT they aren't selling the phone, saying you can store 5 Movies in HD , 2000 Tracks im flac and so on.

And the average user doesn't care. :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] gruuvin:
You do make some good points, Hudrator, and I would have to admit that a lot of people don't care about storing media content up to and past the 25GB we will have left to us for media storage on the 32GB model. But I think, not only as a multimedia user, but also as a gadget developer myself, that owners of the One with its HD screen, awesome sound, and large zoe files, will increasingly want to start filling their phone up with music, videos, and zoe pictures. And looking two years forward, which is how long people will have this phone on average, people will be feeling the cramp of the 25GB and will have to start compromising what they can carry and delete content that they wish they could take with them.

So, I really do agree that a phone used as an mp3 player with 25GB of user storage over the past couple of years has probably been enough for the average user, but a phone that is now not only a great mp3 player but a 1080*1920 HD video and sound powerhouse, for the next two years, I think people will be wanting a LOT more storage for content to show off that hardware.
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Agree with that,

also , HTC put SD card / removable battery on non-flagship phone, so the problem maybe goes to how should they sell mid-to-low end phone.
[One (M7) General] Hudrator:
AW: No SDcard... is it really that big of a deal...

Totally Agree.

But from point oft view of HTC:

Why give an microsd slot, when there aren't enough people complaining?

@gruuvin

Think of effect for marketing ( like " now wie can copy & paste" ;) )

When a user is having the issues with missing storage in the next year, HTC drops the ONE2 (what a hell of a Name :D ).

And then having an microsd slot would be quiet convincing for an upgrade.

Write to HTC with constructive feedback or the people who are elevates tell HTC that people want this feature.

Maybe they bring it up for flagship 2014

Hopefully they will and HTC planing microsd back.
[One (M7) General] lorddart:
I personally love having some of my music on my phone. Most is in Google music, but it's nice having some on the phone too. But beyond music, many users, especially the average one loves to take photos and videos all the time. Especially if it's a newer son /daughter or nephew/niece someone one doesn't see often they may take a lot of video, and shooting video at max settings, it doesn't take too long to burn through a lot of space. And some people want to keep some videos on their phone. So while I'm in the boat that while it's more convenient to have an sd card slot I can live with 32gigs this may not apply to a lot of people.
[One (M7) General] metalfan78:
I just read about this on android central. Interesting. Could be a knockoff, but it's pretty cool anyway.

http://m.androidcentral.com/chinese-htc-one-variant-spotted-microsd-slot-dual-sim-capabilities
[One (M7) General] zehoo2:
No microSD slot is only an issue for me in phones that have 16gb or less as storage options. I can see how for a minority it may become an issue if you have need of more than 32-64gb, but there can't be too many people requiring more than that on a phone.
[One (M7) General] Freedom First:
Yeah, it's really that big of a deal. As others before me have mentioned, what's the deal with increasing/maximizing every aspect of a device, then shrinking the available storage space? No, I do not accept "the cloud" as a viable alternative... Especially when the carriers are trying to charge more for less data. I still carry a Rezound, which has 80GB (advertised) with the addition of a card. It's already crammed full, what with pictures, videos, and my music (for those who actually care about listening to quality music, low-rate mp3 doesn't cut it... only lossless files will suffice, and 3 albums occupy about 1GB).

I'm in a seriously boned situation: I'm on Verizon, happy with the service and coverage, and not inclined to change carriers. So, I can forget about getting even a 64GB Uno for the foreseeable future. If/when Verizion finally gets a version of this device, it'll probably be spec'd with 16GB of storage, half of it filled with non-removable Big Red Crapware. If the damn thing had a card slot, I wouldn't care. I'm hoping for a truly "global" version in 64GB and/or have a card slot.
[One (M7) General] jah:
Not an issue for me either. Millions of Ipad users don't care about a lack of SD card.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acemccloud1:
Greetings Folks!!! :cowboy:

I have recently upgraded and rooted my Grand Duos i9082 (currently on Stock v4.1.2 AMB3), and was browsing through the "Root Explorer" app, when I noticed some folders under /mnt/ and /storage/ listed as UsbDriveA, UsbDriveB, UsbDriveC etc.

This makes me wonder if I can connect a USB Flash drive to my phone, and use it as an external storage media? I believe this function is available on Samsung Note & S3 as an inbuilt function (i.e. without having to install any external application). I would like to know if the same function is available on my Grand Duos. Please advise. Thanks. :good:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NiCk.JaY:
I advice, this is the wrong forum

Sent from my DHD
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigNate:
I really dont understand why or how this keeps happening!!! Dude you not in the right forums, you have to go look up your device and post in those forums! These forums are for the HTC ONE!!!

Why aren't the mods of these forums not doing anything about this issue?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radiotrib:
Maybe it's a plot by the Spamsunites to bring down the HTC-One forum by overloading it with dumb posts containing the word Spamsung ...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fernando sor:
Can someone just delete the entire q&a forum? This is like attack from the tards
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acemccloud1:
Well, thank you all polite gentlemen for being so sarcastic.

This was an error on my end, and I accept my mistake and apologize for the trouble. I am sure I will learn from my mistakes. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said about you guys. Because you are drunk with your arrogance and rudeness.

Mods - Please help me close this thread. I don't know how to do that myself
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] superchilpil:
It wouldn't be so bad if you weren't the 20+ person to do so

Enlighten us on how you made this mistake? Because it just doesn't seem to stop
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BigNate:
Actually i'm sorry if it offended you i was speaking in general because like stated before that this has happened quite a lot on these forums. i probably should have stated that.

I also understand that this was a mistake and just like you WE ALL make mistakes and we also learn from them.

i think more people are trying to figure out why the mods of these forums aren't fixing these mistakes.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gelo01:
And what's more annoying is that almost all of this wrong threads are talking about their shamesung devices.. maybe a dark plot of shamesung?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] acemccloud1:
It's alright mate. The first 2 replies were decent enough (yours was the 2nd reply)....so no hard feelings & no apologies required. Have a good one!!! :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radiotrib:
A quick google search tells me the Galaxy Duo has USB-otg as standard so with the right cable (ebay search for usb otg) you should be able to plug in anything from a flash drive to a terabyte or two of raid array .. (though you may need an external power supply and big pockets for the latter)
[Sprint LG Optimus G] BadFish79:
I'm still on zv9 and only rooted, not unlocked. The only changes I have made to the phone have been the camera mod, turned off the camera sound and changed the boot and shut down animations(including remove the sounds for them). I have not removed or frozen any apps.

Will doing a factory reset screw up my phone or is it safe to wipe it? I know I will need to install super user again, which is fine, but will wiping the phone do any harm?

Thanks
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jfm567:
If its anything like my LG Mach, plugging your phone into your computer and using the "adb reboot recovery" command in command prompt from the android SDK tools, resets your phone to stock with the latest update. I had mine rooted and it stayed rooted after the reset though......
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Reddog80p:
Only running two ROM slots. Stock and ROM slot 1 and am getting insufficient storage when trying to update apps. Any ideas?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] iucidium:
Wipe cache? Google music cache?

How big are the ROM slots?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] Draxin:
Have you checked to see how much space you actually have available on your system partition? A couple of ROMs and space hungry apps, or old data from deleted apps can fill it up quick
[MDA, XDA, 1010 General] wwb95:
get it from hear

http://www.qosman.net/cgi-bin/countit.cgi?act=download&file=SpeedDailEn.zip
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Daevius:
I'm wondering if this is regular behaviour or whether I have made a setup mistake when installing tyween's latest Android ROM.

It occures to me that my device is terrible slow. It gets unresponsive for up to 5 seconds for example when a WhatsApp message is send. Messages send with SMS also take seconds to display on screen or to be send. Even playing music occasionally pauses.

Android 2.3.3 has no problems for me and ran smooth. Android 4.2.3 just seems really slow but I'd rather not switch back, it works and looks much better.

How can I speed up my device? Might I have done something wrong installing the ROM? I have the version where an Ext partition on the SDcard is used by the system.

What other information do you need?

Thanks,

Dave
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] Nigeldg:
Well, it may be the fact that Android 4.2.3 doesn't exist ;)
[HD2 Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting and Genera] NYLimited:
I thought Tyween stopped with Gingerbread... I don't think Google released 4.2.3 - did I sleep late today?

You had to go and spoil it! I was all set to try a new rom.. ;)

---

Ask me about my vow of silence....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] evinkay:
I'm trying to upgrade a Tmobile galaxy s2 to jellybean that's currently running GB rooted with a custom rom. I tried simply flashing a newer ROM (ics then and jb ) but it wouldn't finish booting. I searched like crazy but I can't find any sure answers, is there a guide for my problem or something I should do like firmware update? Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] xXchrizhurtyXx:
You should use odin to flash the official ICS first before jumping to ICS and JB roms
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
You don't have to do anything but flash the rom you want and an updated radio. I flashed gb to ics to jb numerous times. No need for odin.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] evinkay:
That's a relief. Thanks! I tried flashing cm9 and all I got was a bootloop. I'll do the radio as well though
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] evinkay:
It's clockworkmod if I'm not mistaken.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Shouldnt be any issue with upgrading I use cwmr and do different roms frequently
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] thakrew317:
Try twrp...alot better less issues..ur prolly on the older version of cwm that requires the dark side script try upgrading to the newest twrp
[Off-topic] ajeteja:
I spend around 5$
[Off-topic] ajeteja:
Iam frm india
[Off-topic] theDroidfanatic:
Around $8?

Sent from my HTC One X
[Off-topic] I r o n M a n:
Another pointless thread from you. :banghead:

Sent from my pet - Megatron™

(I was Chalak)
[Off-topic] CnC-ROCK:
approx 2$ for 3 months except for recharging the battery.:p