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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
Rather excited for this to starf shipping. Kinda wish I could have paid an extra 10 $ and had it ship now with the lower quality case then ship the updated one whenever its available.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RambJoe:
So looks like I would have to buy a cheap NFC plate off eBay then hack it on somehow?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
Can't wait for this battery to pop out of design and factory! What are they waiting for? :eek:

Sent from my GT-N7100
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cdmoore74:
I thought the TPU case was too loose during the initial release.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Yahia700:
This little monster is for what phone ?

Sent From My Evolved Mini Galaxy

Android 4.2.2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] donelam304:
Galaxy Note II
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
I hope they release the rugged case for this soon. That would be awesome.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
I'd imagine you could use some copper tape like in the wireless charging mods.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
They are infact working on a rugged case, I asked if they were in an email. The reply: Hi,

Thank you for your interest. *

"Yes we are readjusting the current case & plan on release in mid April (the size of the case makes it harder to fix the issue). *We are also planning on a rugged version of both Note 2 and Galaxy S3 cases for June release.

Thanks

Best Regards,

Joey"

SGH-T889, Rooted with Jedi X12 ROM
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
Planned release date moved from early April to mid April
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] droidbabyxda:
Will definitely try this wish the back fits good and not a tpu type plastic that Will stetch with time
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] johnrbrown1968:
I'll wait to see how people review the initial case, before I buy one. The video review shows that it looks pretty flimsy, and isn't even snug to the phone. If initial case released in mid-April is good, then I'll grab one, else I'll wait till June with the release of a rugged case. Granted, a rugged case on this extended battery monster will be like carrying a cinder block ... or a 1980s style car phone. :laugh:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
I think these guys really taking their time to get it right with TPU protective case. I will give them benefit of a doubt, and have a feeling the fit will be perfect! I wouldn't expect rugged case to be that huge. If you think about it, this battery in thickness should be more than a typical extended double-height battery. It just bigger in area, spreading across the back of the phone. So, thickness of a rugged case wouldn't be any bigger than for example rugged ACTIVE case I reviewed for Innocell. People in here modifying their Defender cases to fit double height extend batteries. So, perhaps that is a max rugged case thickness to expect?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Hey guys- some people are waiting until june to buy it for the rugged case. I wasn't sure if it would be available as the case alone so I could buy the tpu version now and buy the rugged case alone later so I emailed them asking if it woupd be available as the case for the battery alone. This is their response.

"Hi

Yes, the case can be purchased standalone in June."

SGH-T889, Rooted with Jedi X12 ROM
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
good to hear, thats probably what il do
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tornlogic:
Please tell me where to order, I can't find it anywhere. Amazon had been out since I purchased my note..
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] itikhvin:
LOL, now mine has been stuck at 3 % and isn't going down. Don't know if I should wait or charge now. 22 hours of screentime at this point...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
Only Amazon you have to watch when they get in Stock they sell out fast.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RakeshRaja:
Guys I got my battery today! Just put in charging.. Is it ok to use it while charging?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
Dont use in charge please
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RakeshRaja:
Ok thanks..Either way I should charge for 12 hours.. right no matter if it's 100% charged or what. I got 60% charged battery.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
Just put in charge before sleeping and turn off your phone
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
1. You don't need to drain the battery.

2. You can use it while charging.

3. You don't need to turn off the phone.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tornlogic:
This is all true. I'm actually an engineer for a government contractor. We work with specific battery technologies including lithium chemistries.

Just to be clear, there are a few things that aren't healthy for this type of chemistry, none of which are anything that's been stresed enough here.

First, it's not good to keep the cells fully charged or fully discharged for long periods of time. In fact they enjoy being at about 50%. This is why when you receive a new battery, they are around half charged already.

Second, they don't like to be charged at high currents. Modifying your kernel to allow your battery to charge faster is much more harmful than not charging before first use. With this said, using your phone while charging is actually BETTER for the battery, as some of the current is being used directlyby the device, and not going to the battery.

Lastly, heat is bad. If it's from discharging excessively, or keeping in a hot car, they are all horrible for the life if the battery.

Hope this helps. Don't stress about charging first before use, and for heaven sake don't discharge fully.... they don't like that either
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Simone:
This is true.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] baileyjr:
Just to clarify though, if it is used to charging at 1000Ma from the wall charger, modyfying the Kernel so that it charges at 1000Ma over usb instead of the normal 460Ma should have no negative effects?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Without a datasheet for the cells, it's not really possible to say with certainty. However, the general rule of thumb is 1C charge/discharge is safe. For this thing, that would be 9.3A. Seems a bit on the high side for anything the phone will ever do. So let's say .5C, that's still over 4.5A. The phone won't ever charge at more than 2A, and that for a short time to about 60% it seems. 1A/1000mA is perfectly safe as a max current if your power supply can do it. If you are using that mod that lets you charge from a computer at 1A rather than the USB .5A, it's not going to hurt the battery. Even then, it won't stay at 1A all the time, that's just the max limit it will ever do. Toward the end it tapers off to nothing. It might irritate your computer, but most of them seem fine with it.

I really wish these old wives tales about discharging to zero and not using the phone while charging would die already. There was some truth to the discharge one with Ni-Cad batteries, but even then it wasn't that big of a deal. Since then, it's worse to do it. Thankfully Lithium batteries used in consumer goods always have protection circuits on them to keep you from really going to zero. If you did, you would own a paperweight.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] baileyjr:
Thanks mate, that puts my mind at rest. I'll not go above 1A thats plenty fast enough for me.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cornelito:
Hi

I did not notice that battery needs to be fully charged prior to first use.

I have actually plugged my Note into the charger after 1 day of use @ 45%.

Will this affect further functionality?

My curent power settings on Stweaks are :

DCP and mains AC input current : 1800 mA

DCP and mains AC chargé current : 1700 mA

Are these settings good enough for ZeroLemon battery?

Have any1 experienced network signal dicrease after switching to above battery?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
No, yes, and no.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tornlogic:
Charge rates for lipo (lithium polymer) and lithium ion (found in our phones, laptops and such) vary greatly. Even batteries of the same chemistry can differ. I have some lipos whos charge rate are .5c, and others that are 5c using the correct charger. The 1c rule is not a golden rule for lithium... Just saying.

Same is true for lithium ions. They all differ. I really don't think anything over 2 amps is safe for any battery in our Notes regardless of capacity... It depends on a lot of factors such as internal resistance, cell balancing and charging circuit/power supply's ability. Which leads me to say that charging at high rates from a USB port on your laptop isn't about the health of the battery your charging, but rather, the USB port itself. Lower currents from the USB port are there for a reason.

just remember, the lower you keep the rate, the longer your battery will last without losing capacity.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LT.Dan:
I got this battery the day it was available on Amazon. With the battery itself I have been nothing but impressed, I was getting 4+ days of moderate to heavy use with no power saving measures. I was over 14 hours of screen time per charge.

Now the case is a little bit different. Mine didn't seal very well, one corner I could see the silver bezel and I can foresee that taking pressure in my pocket and popping the case off. I email'd zerolemon and they sent me a new case immediately however the 2nd case had the same issue. It does hold on and I haven't had it fall off, just wish it sat on there perfectly because I am OCD like that.....

I would post pictures of my battery life but I am not up to 10 posts yet...... :silly:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JCreazy:
I was told that the reason they aren't sold anymore is because of a case issue, they are revising the case and will resell when it's finished.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
Where'd you get that?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LT.Dan:
I would assume this to be the case issue, hopefully they make a cool case with a kickstand. I will email them my input hehe.... :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mideastbeast:
So what about the first 3-4 charges? Should they really be 12 hours long or just take it off the charger when it hits 100%?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JCreazy:
I don't know where I read it so it may not be a creditable source. I just hope it's true.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Tornlogic:
As long as the phone is reporting correct percentages, it doesn't make sense to keep charging after it says 100%. There are apps that can give you voltages. Once you hit max voltage, then your good. The phone will not charge beyond that voltage.

Should be 4.2v

OsMonitor is a decent app
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] baileyjr:
They delayed the initial launch because they weren't happy with the case, see the case is much looser in the review unit. http://www.mobiletechreview.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=44312

Not heard of any delays since.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
So I finally got my battery in yesterday and had it on the charger for 12 hours. I recieved it at 58% battery life and 4 hours later it was at 100%. This morning I unplugged it from the charger and im just about 2 hrs in and im at 96%. This doesnt seem right. I played 2 games for maybe 15 mins total and did a little web browsing on this tropical storm that is hitting us. Anyways I wouldnt believe this is part of the calibration is it? I hope I don't have to contact ZL for a new battery.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
Loads of people (including myself) have already said in this thread that the phone doesn't show a correct percentage for the battery for the first few charges.

Mine did the same thing and then later sat at 46% for about 5 hours of heavy usage in a low signal area.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Hmm thats interesting. Thanks for the quick response. I havent had the time to go through 102 pages to find those posts.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
Only 101 more to go, my friend! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
I don't have a problem with it showing the correct % even when I first got it, all I know that is that from a hundred to about 90 percent it can drop fairly quickly then after that it was smooth. Still does it till today.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Double0EK:
Plus you still have to go through a few cycles before the battery gets better. And as others have said... It drops fairly quick in the beginning and then smooths out. You won't be disappointed.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] d12unk13astard:
This made me lol
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] billybob275:
+1 all the comments saying not to worry about percentages. The phone estimates the % left based on the voltage output and some other factors. The system is designed to be as close to 100% accurate using a stock 3100 mah battery.

Since this is a 3rd party battery whose standards may vary slightly from Samsung (not bad, just different), amd since it has 3x the capacity, the percentage will never be accurate the first few cycles after switching batteries. This is why it will suddenly drop quickly or stay the same for long periods.

The phone is smart enough to adapt to it after a while, but since the method for getting battery percentage is just a refined form of estimation it will never be 100% accurate.

In this case anecdotal evidence may be the best to take due to the many variables that affect battery life (individual phone build quality, ROM choice, individual usage habits, variances in battery build and wear, what apps are installed and cause battery drain, etc)

I'm seeing 7 hours with absurdly extreme usage (stupid amount of tasks running lol), 1.5 days with fairly heavy usage, 2.5 days average, 3.5 days light usage, and know of folks bumping 5 days with extremely light usage. Again purely anecdotal, but I hope this helps.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
You can use a widget called battery monitor that allows you to input all the tiny little details to get a hundred percent or close to it accurizaion.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] keithd203:
Welp......I've read hundreds of threads, reviews, and watched many videos, and I've come up with the following conclusion. This battery will last between 2 to 6 days with 10 to 24 hrs screen time depending on use. This confuses me because I've had my ZL for three weeks and the best I've done was 1d 4 hrs with 5 hrs screen time, and that was with very light uses.

Either I have a faulty battery, or I'm doing something horribly wrong. Maybe following the ZL instructions was my first mistake....maybe changing roms every day for a week damaged the battery......I'm at a loss.

I wanted to go at least a month before making a decision, but I think I'll contact ZL now and see if I can get a new battery.

Has anyone had to exchange for a new battery?

Any problems with ZL?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RakeshRaja:
Yes I think problem is your battery. Because after first 12 hours recharge.. I am getting lot better result than you..I have used mostly wifi and some times 3g too. Most of screen on time was video playing..still 39% left.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
I personally do not think that is the issue. It could be a numerous of things the way he's using his phone the way the applications are running if anything is in constant sync ETC...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
Changing ROMs could also affect things to as different kernels need time to set in. I've had my zl fit about a month now and love it. I average 3 days with moderate

Usage 4 days with average and two days with heavy usage. Mr best screen on has been 13hrs and that was with heavy usage... It seemswith my set up the lighter the use the less screen on time I get but is nothing to worry about. Also I always charge my battery over night for around 6 hours when it nears 20% I'm normally under20% when I use it heavily but my role is around 20% and it's bed it's time to charge

sent from my Beans powered note2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
I noticed that having my stock battery in and changing roms or restoring back ups drains the battery a lot. If it were me I wouldnt be specific as to what you were doing when contacting ZL. Although it may not make a difference, better safe then sorry. I would reduce the rom changing and stick with one you like and one that helps with battery. Just my opinion. Good luck :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
I think that changing roms every day is your problem.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] keithd203:
Changing ROMs was my thought also, but that just doesn't make sense that it would affect the battery so drastically. I'm currently using the Jedi ROM and have been for the past 8 days; Perseus kernel no overclock, and I don't play a lot of graphic intensive games, just Zynga friends games, Kindle reading, and Poweramp music player. I'm wifi at home and work, with very little 3g/4g usage.

I can understand the battery drain on weekends because I play golf and use GolfLogix app, and a GPS app driving to the golf course and other places. That's one of the main reason I got this battery.

Well, thanx for the replies, I'll give it a few more days and see if using one ROM will help at all.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planetbeen:
I'm using gsam battery monitor app and it tells me the battery temperature.

The past couple days I've had a few times when it shows over 100° even saw 104 one day. Fahrenheit...

Its usually upper 90s when I'm using it. Right now its only at 85 because I'm in air conditioning and not really doing anything.

Any ideas what is "normal" and what is dangerous and what the danger might be?

Is it the battery that's getting this hot? Because I thought I saw somewhere that the processor was on the top of the phone and that's where all the heat seems to be....

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
Hi,

help me to choose the color of tpu case. My note 2 is gray, should i take the black or white one? :confused:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Bioslayer:
Black.... White gets dirty. I have the black case in the Gray phone well metallic Gray and the case isn't jet black so it looks pretty good

sent from my Beans powered note2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
How does that compare to the time you were getting with an OEM battery? Have you tried running a cycle on stock rom or at least without changing roms?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] keithd203:
Before purchasing the ZL, I was on CleanROM and averaging 16 hrs with 4 hrs screen time. I could unplug in the morning and plug in at bedtime with about 10% left. Unfortunately when I played golf, I would have to recharge when I got home early that afternoon, which again is why I got the ZL.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
So you've gone from an average of 16/4 to a best of 28/5. Unless your usage has changed significantly, you should be seeing something in the range of about 2 days with 8-10 hours of screen time. I'd check with ZL.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
It might just be a bad battery. Me personally I think it's the stress

on the battery when downloading different roms but again could just bebthe battery. Contact ZL and see what they say.

I have the white case with the Titanium and I think it looks great. I can see how it could get dirty quick but nothing like a little soap and water couldn't clean it right up. If you dont want to bother can't go wrong getting the black one.

My temps range from 85-90 even 95 when im doing a little gaming. Nothing to really worry about. Once you see 105+ then something maybe wrong.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planetbeen:
Mine seems to spend a lot of time around 97-99 in what I'd consider moderate usage.

Example: checking Facebook, getting directions on Google maps (not navigation) and yahoo messenger app.

No gaming. no Netflix. Just basic usage and it's getting hot. Never did before. Not blaming zero lemon because it seems to me the processor is heating up big time and making the battery hot.

It's bugging me because it's never done this before and I've had the phone since the day after it came out.

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Have you overclocked on any of the roms?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] CayenneGTS:
Is this battery available anywhere else other than on Amazon? Its currently out of stock on Amazon.com but I can't find it for sale anywhere else based on doing some basic searches on Google.

Anyone else buy it from some other online store? Does ZeroLemon have their own store? I can't find it if they do. TIA
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RakeshRaja:
Just Amazon. You have to wait.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Strictly on Amazon. It will be couple more weeks til ZL has anything back up. ZL has a website but will send you to amazon when trying to purchase anything. Sorry gonna have to wait it out.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RakeshRaja:
This is performance after first charge.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] baileyjr:
I've seen them on ebay in the past but you'll be paying a premium obviously.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Yeah because they are from people who buy the only to try and make a dollar. Amazon is the only place ZL sells them.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
You have some bad apps running in the background for sure. I'm on clean rom with perseus and i get 7hrs screen and 28 total. Your maps is running in the background with a couple processes and if you have face book say good buy to battery life.

Install and read up on Greenify app from appstore and i guarantee you will see times like mine. Good luck

GN II / TAP II
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
I have Facebook I just close apps through task manager.

Currently at 6.75 Hours screen on time @ just over a 1 day.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] write2dgray:
Crazy good deal on a battery right here, I'm curious what makes this possible? Are margins really that high for other battery providers? It seems this would be more expensive if anything due to the atypical form factor.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
You could try using an adjustable kernel so you can turn things down a little bit processor wise to be safe. If you don't do a lot of CPU heavy tasks, this is still a very capable processor even toned down.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
It's basically 3 regular batteries glued together with a cover on them and a tpu case. Check out the pics of the battery torn apart on the review thread. They likely get the batteries in bulk somehwere for cheap.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Has anyone experienced the battery pressing the phone housing a bit hard and causing the lcd and glass to press against each other causing a bubble like image on the screen?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planetbeen:
Ack! No! Sounds bad. ...

Sent From My Ginormous Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
how would is press the front of your phone?? it would just push out the back if anything ?? can you explain more?

also your screen (the OLED) is "GLUED" to your Digitizer (the glass you touch) there is no gap. so no "bubble" can form unless those two "delaminate" from each other somehow IE defective phone more likely OR if you have "replaced" a broken digitizer (most repairs don't REGLUE the two parts together again)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Didn't say it was pressing on the front of my phone. Anyways that would explain it. My glass was replaced. I bought my phone with a shattered glass. No damage to digitizer though.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nerys71:
Sure you did "lcd and glass to press against each other causing a bubble like image on the screen" thats the FRONT of the phone :)

but yeah. its hard to get the adhesive they use to "seal" to two together. even harder to apply right without a clean room type environment. this is what your seeing. its annoying but not harmful.

just be careful around DUST when it gets between the two layers the annoyance factor rises significantly :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mikemq2003:
Well I'm glad to hear its harmless. I was wondering about that. It never happened with my stock battery. Then again theres plenty of room between stock battery and battery door.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Anyone know when it will be available in amazon again? This wait is killing me.

GN II / TAP II