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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Sorry, do you need the usb otg cable to charge other phones or not? Is it red and black cable connected to your phone and other phone and it's charging, or am I missing some thing?

Also, I paid for 1 day shipping on this case and it was expected to arrive the 23rd. Contacted amazon about why I am paying for premium shipping when it is going to arrive the same day as if I used regular 2 day prime and they waved the charge. But wait- they didn't! After ending the chat, I receive an email from amazon asking if I want to close my account! Wth. When I go to check my orders, guess what? The battery is NO WHERE to be seen. The idiot cancelled my order. Another chat later, they tell me to buy the product with regular shipping and they'd upgrade It to 1 day. All of this is for nothing since I lost 2 business days and may even have gotten it quicker with 2 day. Zerolemon should NOT say it is in stock if it is not ready to ship within the next business day. When I see something is prime eligible, I'd like to think that it would be waiting to be shipped out and ready. There should have been more warning- not every one buying this battery is as on top of the latest updates because of xda.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
I hadn't read that the Anker 10k was really only 6100. If this really does come in at 9300, that would be pretty persuasive.

My interest is primarily for long backpacking treks, My day to day usage isn't that high, I can get a day and a half on a single charge. But I like to spend a lot of time in the back country. I've noticed that my battery usage in the backcountry is higher than it is in town. I suspect this has a lot to do with searching for signals and not being able to use cell towers as a GPS assist. I've tried using a solar cell to charge a 3000mah battery, which in turn can be used to charge the phone (Voltaic system), but it seems needlessly heavy and can't quite keep up. I just got a BioLite stove that will generate electricity from waste heat for charging phones. Nifty as it is, I suspect that I would have to run it for a couple hours a day to keep the Note2 charged up. The best solution so far was a battery pack with 4 18650 cells in it. Given the overstated mAh on those, it was probably about 7-8k. Also, the one I had was cheap and I felt the circuitry didn't make full use of the batteries.

In short, I need a solution that can get me by for a week or two of off grid usage, is lightweight, and not weather dependent. My current thought is to start with a 9-10k battery, either internal or external, and then charge it with the stove when possible to decrease the overall drain rate.

So while I wait for numbers to come in, I guess I'll go look over your Anker 10k review again.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
Does anyone know if the Zero Lemon can be used with one these chargers?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Dock-AC-...lePhoneAccessories&hash=item5aebbfa45b&_uhb=1
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pablo71:
The all black USB OTG Cable with the female usb port charges anything, and is super handy.....I ONLY GOT THAT BLACK/RED CABLE because it is small enough to fit in my wallet...the red/black cable is 'usb otg to micro sd' and since all the stuff I need to charge on the go is micro sd that's just a 'convenient cable' (and that convenient cable also mounts other phones as usb mass storage if I want)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
I don't remember if I mentioned it in that review or another reply somewhere; with so many reviews and posts everyday I loose track lol!!

I have done tests while charging my Note 2 from 0% to get an idea of the ext battery capacity. Well, that Astro 3E was good for only 2 charges of Note 2. Slim2 was good for only 1 charge. Anker even specified in their documentation about 30% power loss due to conversion. When you are dealing with extended battery - that battery has direct contact with a phone. With external battery you have to convert to USB port (inside of the battery) and then from usb back to the battery voltage (inside of the phone), so you loose power.

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It will be very hard to tell, just need to try it out. BUT, one thing to keep in mind that these cheap chargers have only 350 mA DC output which means it will take you 9300 mAh / 350 ma = 26 hours to charge it. I would not recommend it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pablo7:
Watch your language !

Official warning on your way !
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
The advantage of external is that it can power other devices and is useful long after you've traded in your Note 2. The disadvantage is that it'd be hard to use to make a phone call and wouldn't be strong enough to power a MHL adapter.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Killer Turtle:
Too thick, if the top and bottom grips were 1/4" longer it would work great, they just don't have enough reach to get a good grip to hold the phone with stock battery it was fine
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] babiegurl36:
I would get this but I modded my defender to fit my anker battery. If I can't have a case for it, I'll have to pass this up unfortunately:(
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
Free shipping to the US & getting it from there.

Amazon US
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
But it already comes with TPU case and another rugged case due this summer. Of course, tpu case is probably nothing fancy, and we don't know how rugged case going to look. But nevertheless, the phone will not be naked and you still have an option to go between two batteries with corresponding cases.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] babiegurl36:
True butn I'm not a fan of tpu cases. I prefer cases like the defender and I dont want black on my white phone. I'll have to see what June brings!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
They don't even ship til tomorrow :rolleyes:

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Rsmin:
Just got a notice from Amazon. Was shipping tomorrow for delivery on the 23rd, it's now shipping today for delivery on Saturday....
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
im sorry, what i meant was can you post a picture showing that theres no nfc pins so i can just cancel my 1 day shipping and cancel my order. would be a bummer to have all this hype and not get whats implied.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Dewaynelives:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00BYEMNA6/ref=redir_mdp_mobile
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] snrbobo:
looks like i'm getting my on or before the 20th! I'll post pictures and whatnot!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
they sent me a similar email after he refunded my 4 bucks.. saying this is so and so we refunded or waived the 4 dollar fee and it will not affect your 1 day shipping...

to me there should be a ? mark next to 1 day shipping button stating what it means.. and one info saying they will try and charge 1 dollar to your credit card for signing up for the super saver yearly thing of 79 dollars to free ship next day air..

to me next day means next day not oh its when we get around to telling our part time workers after you order it 24 hours ago to box it up so the ups man can come get it.. no it means on the truck here at my house next day.

regardless of someone payind.50 cents or 500 dollars .. my word is my bond.. and companies have really said screw the customers but lets give the shareholders everything they want.. it used to be customers first

now companies are so big they can tell a few hundred people to stuff it and not be affected they are even rewarded by failures a company will make money off anything from failing to doing good.. the ceo never looses even if they go under he still gets his millions in bonus

long story short amazon 2 red flags zero lemon 2 red flags next will be battery if its dead performance aka claims.. oh wait nfc was a false claim too nfc enabled in the amazon link lol yet its not on my battery or case.. just see the link on amazon
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kminatta:
Received the battery today. TPU case sucks just as all TPU cases do. Doesn't quite cover the corners. Looks like it is stretched out (it isn't... just trying to accurately describe it). Can't wait for the rugged case. Battery makes the phone twice as heavy and twice as thick. I like the feel of it compared to my 6200 Anker. I'll charge it and report back on my findings.
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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Asquared:
Ma'am, thank you very much for your warning in this Forum!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Stryke_the_Orc:
The $1 charge for Amazon prime will come off, your banking institution has a set time for the authorization to be completed before they remove it. My bank is 3 days. Say I ordered Prime today, they send the authorization and don't finalize the charge. If the charge isn't completed within 3 days the bank removes it. Amazon will cancel the charge as soon as the account is returned as active, which usually is within 24 hours, but then my bank will hold it up waiting for the charge to be finalized. Its screwy but thats how it works.

Also if you order from a seller that sends the authorization but doesn't charge until it ships, you may have "more" money then you should and spend it only to have them take it immediately after. I found that out the hard way after I forgot about a charge that was put through and disappeared:eek:

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
Charging mine now. Corners of case could be tighter but sizd and weight is fine
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Could you post some pictures of the case and comment on the feel please? Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
Can you guys that got yours today do a proper picture unboxing showing the if the battery cover has nfc pins and profile shots
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
Charging mine as well. The case fits very nice IMO, very nice and tight.

I do not see any NFC pins
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] double1:
Pics please.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
Holding it seems great, if you put tension on the case like you are going to remove it, it is more flexible than id like. note however, i have no prior experience with TPU cases, or other cell cases..

if i even get exactly 2x the battery life, i would be more than happy. im loving the fact its not a 'hump' on the back. :good:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
ok charging tests.. 3 pm to 730 pm from 61% you do the math.... also dont listen to the manfac and let it go down to 2% let it go down to 15% 12 bare min

you go under 2 volts on any lipo 3.7 and its gone forever.. you want 20% remaining in any lipo 80% discharge max

ill test on the lenth of screen time etc

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i posted real world pics go back and see my un packing....

also the case is ok not the greatstes the buttons are stiff feel hard on the fingers.. the case dosent come high on the screen so watch out dropping it.. otterbox cases are really well build id like to see one with this battery

but hey if it outperforms other chinese batteries that claim 6800 mah and only charge to 95% and after 2 minutes drop to 90 then 80.. then ill be happy.. a better case would be nice cant wait to see what they come u p with.. also a external charger i might try it in my external charger it should fit...

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look back a page on my post i post a good pic of the battery and case there is no nfc as they said there would be now maybe the new hard case will have it well see...

start of lenth of charge test 745 pm 18th of apr normal use.. some games aka zombie some fps games... screen shows 100%
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Thanks for the pics! Do you have any other cases to compare it to? Perhaps lay the tpu case on its front and leave the phone beside it to see the difference? Thanks again
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
oh yea im sure it will come off my statement.. its just they could have warned me about it..first.. now if i had no money in the account i could have had an overdraft because of the 1 dollar charge.. infact i need to check to make sure its gone.... checks nope well tomorrow will be day 3 if its not off by then look out amazon lol

im just old school when it comes to business meaning you dont screw your customers over you are polite and even if it costs you a small ammount of money to help out fine.. because youve made them happy
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
What is a post # in this thread where you posted your pics? I went back 3 pages, don't see any post from you with pictures. Can you go back and check it again? Unless your post has been deleted?

Also from other picture post it looks like TPU case is the battery cover?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
here you go http://www.mediafire.com/view/?71qynyyqqtany57

and how it came packaged http://www.mediafire.com/view/?fa3frkjliw7pdbw

yes the tpu cover is the case no nfc antenna anywhere... and yes post was deleted by the moderator because me and another got into a heated argument ill take a pic of the phone with my camera in a sec with it all put together

ok 20 minutes my phones been on idle from 100% down to 99% now i have 4 cores all in powersave mode

edit now 30 minutes down to 98% this isnt looking good folks report from that women who reviewed it said 99% on day 2...

update: photos http://www.mediafire.com/view/?w9dnuye6yp5n594

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?4z39zuzeumj9e55

http://www.mediafire.com/view/?xvrk8ejbxjq9c0v

see how the case hardly comes up on the screen part not high enough and you can see the side has a divit where your fingers fit for grip and the 3rd pic you see the logo on the bottom
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Unless ups screws up, I should get one tomorrow. I'll give it some solid testing on the discharge rig. Tests of the s3 version showed good results, so hopefully we won't be let down.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
The tpu case looks like it attracts a lot of dust in the last updated pic, is that true? :thumbup:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
the camera i used is not my note 2 which is 1080p i used a camera from the 90's so thats maybe why you see that.. what you see is also the case has sparkly kinda black material almost like theres glitter in it.. you can tell its a cheaply made case... i got it 7 hours ago so theres not much dust on it..

the case i dont know why they said case changes not much from the first publications of the pic case to now has changed so i assume shipping issues but they didnt want to tell us...

but the new case out summer might be better.. also the case is the battery cover so if you drop it poof the battery might fall out too

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1 hour running at 97% with gta radio app running.... this is what my stock battery does.. so im starting to wonder about the mah rating
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] moraymol:
the real capacity?

someone get the real capacity of this beast? i don't believe it catches 9300mah

moreover, the note 2 itself is already a massive piece of ****, this will makes it even worse
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
i agree... 97% im still on about 1 hour 20 minutes in they say to leave your charger plugged in after it stops charging for 3 more hours this is a farse... that can cause damage to the internal chip that regulates charge once its done unplug it its done.. now maybe it needs to be discharged and charged fully a few times to be calibrated by the note 2 well see but so far not looking good
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Clownzer:
I get mine tomorrow and Ill run some tests... how long did you let yours charge for locutus? I believe I read you should let it charge for well over 8 hours originally not just when the phone says 100%
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
7.5 hours total.. from 61% to 100% in that time.. leaving it plugged din does nothing for extra power once done its done...

now cycleing may imporove it but that will take a week so go down to 15% then charge you dont want to go down to 2 % like they say to 2 volts is a lipos min level get apps for free to tell you the voltage.. 4.20 is fully charged 2.0 is fully discharged any lower say 5 % and you can screw it up..

common knowledge seeing how i was into lipos since they came out so im not talking out my butt here lol
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
I'm adopting wayward note 2's. Hell, I won't even charge you to take it off your hands!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kminatta:
You keep calling this battery a "lipo", but these are lithium ion. Lithium Ion batteries have no memory and don't need to be cycled. In fact, they respond fine to running down to zero and then fully recharging them.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
sorry im used to calling them lipos.. i know they use salt water as a electrolite im used to lipos higher quality batteries.. a lipo of this size would be 150 bucks..

no dont run and lio and lipo past 2 volts go google it... 2 volts is minum anything lower and it will die there is no protection other than that pop up window that says battery use at 15% ..

when i say cylce i mean for the phone the phone makes a internal list of the capacity a file sorta speak and sometimes it can be alittle off cycleing puts it back on track theres tons of apps that erase this file so your capacity bar reads right for people who swap batteries often.. but i use the volt meter app that shows volts. 4.20 fully charged 2.0 fully discharged 80% discharge is where you want to be

go drain any battery even deep cycle past 50% and the capacity goes away each time.. trust me i have a friend that owns a battery shop and im in to electronics and solar power setups... plus lipos for radio controlled helis and cars... but dont belive me go google it.. 2% is really way to low.. its your phone though so i encourage you to do your own research
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Its not a lithium polymer(Li-Po) battery, it is a lithium ion(Li-Ion) battery they are two completely different types of battery technology. Any good quality Li-ion has an overcharge circuit and a voltage regulator built in, meaning it will charge til its full the shut down the charging circuit, as it starts to drain again the voltage regulator drops the input and trickle charges the battery to keep it at 100% until unplugged. When you first get a Li-ion battery it needs to be charged for several hours past 100% because it's not actually at the charge level it reads initially from being stored with ~60% charge which actually depletes slightly while sitting. You don't condition Li-ions they have no memory. You run a few full cycles to calibrate the phones battery stat monitor to the new battery to give an accurate reading from the device side, not the battery side. Ideally when you get a new battery, especially larger capacity than the stock battery, it should be charged using a standalone external charger. For 9300mah you should charge it for approximately 9-12hours the first charge and a minimum of 8 hours each time you charge from 20% or lower.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
im use to useing the term lipo which uses poloymer it uses the same charge cycle constant current and voltage steady curves..

these do have over voltage built in by law they do.. because they can explode..... when i said cycle the phone is set for 3100 mah not 9300 so it might be off by say 2 % when you cylce it gets used to that and i belive it creates a file structure.. i cant remember the thing its called

i use a lipo/lion special charger for my rc cars and helis i have 200 dollar batteries that are all lipo ok lipo is a far better tech better at holding a charge than lion ion is bascially salt water like a sla battery poly is a polymer substrate far better at density and holding a charge..

lithion loose far more charge sitting than lipo.. but when my charger cycle is done on my rc lipo its done it dosent charge any more at 2 more hours... even if i put on a lithion it wont put more into it it senses voltage when it comes close to 4.20 amps in the battery regardless of what it is

it dosent slow voltage it slows current down to 100 mah then boom its done and stays done.. the chips in the phone are simple 10 dollar chips that maintain 4.20 volts you are not putting anymore in just holding steady.. its not good for this cheap chip.. my hobby charger is 150 dollars and far smarter than these ones in this phone..

so to recap phone internal chips maintain the voltage you keep it on its just floating it out...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
damn amazons fast with the 1 day shipping! getting mine in the AM. il post a proper unboxing video and review comparing zero lemons 9300mah battery to a $8 6500mAh battery from a competitor. and just to clarify for those lucky enough to have gotten one before hand, are you guys saying theres no battery cover with nfc? the only one to chime in on this is locust, and it looks like youre getting a battery and tpu case but no battery cover with nfc. that would be a deal breaker in my book and if thats the case il be calling zerolemon in the AM for a full refund.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] locutus34:
well no one but me has gotten their battery .. im the first one...

i think the tpu case is it.. if you watn nfc or even if they dont put it in a hard case then youll have to shell out another 20 or so dollars... ok i plugged my phone back in at 96% let it sit for hours after fully charged now well go from a fresh start like tha manufac says.. dropping 5 % in 1 hour is unaceptable to me.. when that women that reviewed it said 99% after 2 days... somehow i question her numbers... i think its basically a 6800 mah battery or less labled as a 9300 no way of knowing unless you do a timed test and a program to calculate the mah its kinda a pain.. but 10 amps come on should be a week without charging .. nfc who really uses that anyway with wifi and stuff like that
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] FinancialWar:
How heavy and the battery and casing and packaging weight all together?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] xartic12:
Damn, give it a week or so and 5 recharges before you rant about the battery already. How you are harping about the battery draining a percentage every 10 minutes can easily fluctuate, depending on what you're doing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] donelam304:
I agree. And if you did not do what the manufacturer said about charging. Like on the 6200mah batteries you ha e to do a full 12 hours of charging regardless if it says charged. Just do it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
I'm just gonna stick with what the manufacturer says and charge for 12 hrs initially then go to 2% and repeat a few times. They make the batteries, why would they tell you to do something damaging? It would be negative for the consumer and themselves.