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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
This is a "what would you do?" thread.

Last night, I dropped not one, but two phones in the toilet. I was cleaning the bowl, so there was Comet in the water as well. One phone was my Nexus 4, the other my (work) Blackberry Torch. The torch has been pronounced dead and replaced already. The Nexus 4....

I pulled it out almost immediately. It was in the water for maybe 1 second. I first turned it off, then patted it dry with a towel. At this point, the phone appeared dry. I turned it this way and that, and no water came out. So far, so good. I left it on a towel overnight, propped up with the headphone jack down, in the bathroom, with a space heater on but not blowing directly on it, though there was moving air. I took it to work with me this morning and laid it on a paper towel to see if there was any evidence of water. There wasn't. I turned it on for a moment and made a call. The call was clear on both ends. I turned it off again, and put it in a ziploc bag with a packet of clay dessicant, where it remains. The only evidence I can find is a touch of residue from the cleaner at the top edge of the headphone jack, which I wiped off. I took the SIM out, and could find no evidence of water intrusion.

So, my question is, where to go from here? I've heard that using alcohol (denatured or 99% isopropyl) might be appropriate, but at this point I wonder if that would just do more damage. Do I leave it off and in the bag with the dessicant for a while? Do I just use it and hope for the best? Thanks for any input.

-Matt
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zxcv106106:
You should put the phone into warm (uncook) rice. Put large amount of the rice over your phone. I'm not kidding. It will save your phone. Do not

cook the rice....Put your phone with UNCOOK rice.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
I think the clay dessicant is doing the same thing. Is rice somehow better?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sagarbtl:
yes this workss!! make sure u put it on airtight plastic bag or container fully covered ur phone with rice make sure take the sim tray out ....at least put it for 72 hrs......http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eg8Fpb3UjHY
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottx .:
Rice works! Its a well known trick.

Sounds like you were lucky. If you turned it on and made a call with it then it sounds fine. I'd take it all apart and clean it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
Guess I'll have to google for a take-apart guide for the nexus 4. I really wish there was a high end android phone that was as tough as my motorola defy. I put that thing through the ringer, including salt water, and what finally killed it was a drop that busted the screen..... It was also really easy to disassemble, having replaced the earpiece. May it rest in piece(s).

-M
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SneakyGuyDavid:
RICE IS THE WAY TO GO ! , when i was younger riced saved my gameboy advanced SP ! and it saved my aunts mytouch 3g , just make sure you turn off the phone as soon as you can so it wont short circuit
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scream4cheese:
God dang it. I hate your avatar. It creeps me out! Stop smiling at me!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
just realized i've been misspelling "desiccant" sorry
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] persheshhater:
Get rid of it before it dies within 30 days. U should have not turned it on without first making sure all water dried. It will work once the water fully penetrates into the circuits inside the phone. Google it you have plenty of cases. The rice works if u use it right away without turning phone on but now u turned it on rice is useless cuz all that water already inside penetrating.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filthykid:
Sorry fo rthe stupid Qs BUT does the phone need to be in some covering like a plastic bag? Or just the bare phone in a jar filled with rice?

I am asking this because usually the rice contain A LOT of dust (at least in this part of world it does).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eollie:
rice works in a pinch but the stuff the OP put it in is what is shipped in various items to keep dry from hot cold climate changes. It is really the best thing to use to dry a phone out if you have a large amount. Rice works but it can get residue in the device via the headphone plug and the usb port.

I would leave it in the silica gel for a day. No joke a full 24 hours. I do not advocate returning it and pretending it never touched water. I would call google up and tell them your story. Sometimes you get a rep that will not make a note on your account. I understand these things arent cheap to replace but be honest and you might get a really compassionate rep that will work a deal with you. I also suggest contacting maybe something like square trade and see what their policy is on water damaged devices. My sister bought a used tablet and the usb port broke she paid square-trade like 20 bucks for the warranty and then 50 bucks to fix it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottx .:
Bare. How would rice help if it wasn't in the same bag?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adikbzik:
Odp: [Q] Nexus 4 takes a swim in the toilet

One guy ask in one thread "why u here if you love stock ROM?" and here is one of answers for this question. For knowledge, hints like that one. I didn't know how to act when my phone get into water. Thx guys.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GuestK0091:
Here's a good guide on how to disassemble the Nexus 4: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZDAIgwbXk4

The idea behind it is that the rice will absorb any water left behind in the phone, so it has to go in without anything that stops the rice from drawing the moisture. An alternative for rice is the method eollie mentions.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
Well, the phone is fine. I took it apart and found only minimal evidence of water intrusion around the headphone jack and USB port and speaker. It was entirely dry, and I took the USB port and speaker out out and cleaned the board with a Q-tip and denatured alcohol and put it back together, even the water indicator was still white.

Made a call, sounds good on both ends. Thanks for the video, that helped immensely. Never thought of using a guitar pick.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] whosmatt:
A bit more...

I have to say that in hindsight, turning the phone upside down to dry was a fortuitous move on my part, as that allowed the water that entered through the headphone jack to pool at the edge of the case to dry... most of the main electronics are in the upper half of the phone.

I wish I had taken more pics after I broke the phone down some more, but that gives you an idea of what was in there... it apparently wasn't much. The white residue is the Comet cleaner that was in the water.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chazall1:
My wife dropped her Razr M in the toilet. RICE in a BAG even with the phone left on, If you try to use any buttons, the water has a greater chance to enter the motherboard. Rice DOES WORK!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pak-stars:
use uncle bens rice...its has the most flavor
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAmSixNine:
If your going to take apart the unit you can put the board its self in a bag of 99% isopropyl alcohol.

Ive done that with a few iPhone boards at my shop and they have worked well.

The main thing is to remove the battery as soon as possible. As long as the battery has a charge and still connected to the phone, (even if its off) current can still flow thru the board. When this happens AND if any of the water or corrosive material is in the unit, the chemical break down can and will occur. Once you start to get rust on the board you will then start to get some major problems.

The sooner you can get it apart and use the alcohol to flush out the water / contaminants and then let it dry naturally the better chance you have of a full recovery.

Use the alcohol to remove the contaminants off the board and electronics and plastics. Feel free to use a small paint brush or something to get the toilet water and comet cleaner out of the unit.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cirian75:
loads of dry uncooked rice, in a sealed bag, somewhere warm

just like the others said, my mate saved his macbook doing this
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
Yep I saved my HTC Wildfire with rice after it went through an entire washing machine cycle...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
Saline water and sand entered my phone, when i was at a beach and the phone would not turn on .

I turned it off i think and after a few hours the phone wont even turn on.

I gave it to some local guy who cleaned out the sand, blow dry the moisture etc, but still wont turn on.

I have left my phone in a bag of rice, for about 2 days now

any hope it will work? otherwise, this phone is as good as gone
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] VoiD_Dweller:
I had this happen with mine, search and you should find the thread. I used the rice in a bag trick and it still works fine, of course my girlfriend uses it, I never told her that it fell in dookie water.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
Best advice. Too late for the rice now, need to clean off the detergent asap.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAmSixNine:
Saline water is pretty harsh on electronics. The higher the salt content the more corrosive and the more conductive the water becomes. Both are extremely bad for electronics. Thats a worse case scenario. Sorry to hear that happened to your device.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
thanks dude, i appreciate ur concern

is there any way to fix this thing now? I have dumped it an bag of rice for 2 day

Weird thing: When i plug into computer, it can recognize the phone

When i plug into wall socket, the phone glows with red LED

Does this phone have still have some life?:confused:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XGrinder911:
Dropped my phone into a pond for several minutes. It still works perfectly.

*cough* not to brag or anything.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drpepe:
Was there any water in the pond?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
just because it worked fine after a drop in the water, it does not mean its in tip top condition.

The water would have surely fried some of the resistorz and capacitors on the PCB

i must say u got lucky this time, but u ll have issues in long term
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IAmSixNine:
I work in the repair biz and i tell my customer with liquid damage. A device might work today but long term it will have a higher failure rate then a non liquid damage device. Its really a crap shoot. The only true way to know is to take it apart and get inside the unit and see just how bad the damage is.

Every device is manufactured differently, some have a tendency to soak water in and others seem to be sealed up pretty tight.

The red LED coming on when you put it on a charger indicates its taking a charge.

After 2 days of trying in a bed of rice you should have most if not all of the moisture out.

if it works, id be definitely making back ups or my important info and looking for a replacement for when, not if it fails..

but again that will all depend on how bad the actual liquid damage was in the first place.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Warbuff:
If after week the phone starts acting up even after rice trick. Open up the phone and clean the mobo with 99% alcohol. Should clean it up and get it working. This happened to me back when I had a g2.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minkmeister:
Same boat

I just dropped mine in the toilet today. 1.5 seconds in the water tops. Took about 10 seconds to get the damn thing turned off. Immediately went to the rice trick, as that has worked for me in the past, and now looking at other options. Might take a crack at the 99% alcohol method tomorrow. I need to watch that video on pulling the Nexus 4 apart.

Thanks to all the tips from those who replied. For the most part, you are all a fine bunch.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] undercover:
Was it really "water"? :D
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] minkmeister:
Water, and processed water.

Took my phone out of the rice today. Phone works great, with the exception of the microphone. The mic works when I am on speaker phone, will not work using the handset earpiece.

Not sure I want to hold this up to my head anyways.

Any ideas on getting the mic working? I tried the soundabout app that allows you to turn off various earphone triggers. No luck getting it working yet. Might have some rice residue in the earphone jack.

Really pissed off at myself right now. In all applicable ways.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] filthykid:
How is the mic coming along minkmeister?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
XDA,

My phone is water damaged, and wont turn on. Needs a motherboard replacement,from what i have determined.

1 guy from eBay is willing to send the motherboard to me, but it has an bad IMEI (on US networks only).

Since im based out of India, will this work with no issues for me? Pls advise me.. Ramu
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] brunini:
RICE

Switch off, Dry, put in uncooked rice, pray and wait.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
done all this , about 12 times, even cleaned the circuitry ,,, Needs a motherboard replacment

Dont u think? ramu
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] N10AP:
You could try reflowing the board gently with a very gentle 370 degree heat gun. Or a rework station. Maybe liquid flux too.

The chips are bga and I'm guessing you have corrosion under one of these which aren't visible. Read a guide on reflowing a ps3 or an Xbox to get the idea.

Good luck!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danred:
I have the exact same issue as yourself....was starting to wonder if the mic issue is an actual defect having read some posts on here...could try sending back not knowing you dropped it down the loo , good luck hope someone knows how to fix
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] darkkid85:
Wont it be easy to replace the motherboard? rather than go thru all this hassle.

I appreciate ur advice of course,clean boards are avail for as low as 100 bucks on ebay.

i have tried the rice trick, cleaning the pcb etc, did not work,,,,
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] u4atharva:
Rice.. to absorb the moisture hmm.. New innovative idea man.. :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LooieENG:
I don't know if I could use a phone that's been in the toilet :/

I would leave it in a bowl of pure alcohol (switched off) then dry it and leave it in rice for 2-3 days

think the phone will probably have some little white things inside that change colour when they get wet, so they can tell if it's been water damaged.
[Samsung Galaxy Fit GT 5670] embed_nk:
Have a look at this thread ...working FM radio of armv6 cm jb 4.1.2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1878812

OP:soon updated with necessary files.
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattybxda:
Hi Guys

Sorry if this question has been answered before, but i did try and look for an answer but had no luck. Unfortunely I do have abit of a strange situation.

I updated to an offical Australian vodafone (my provider) ICS rom (GT-N7000B version) through mobile odin a while back from a XSA (AUS) GT-N7000 GB rom. Since i used mobile odin i was able to pass root through to the new rom which was great.

Since the release of JB has come out I am wondering since I know about the brickbug etc, how will I update my phone to JB since i am on a stock ICS kernel? As it was to my understanding I cannot flash anything on a stock ICS kernel due to the flash bug?

Can i actually use pc odin on a stock ICS kernel and flash over the top to JB or will I have to re-flash GB or ICS GT-N7000 model rom and then use a safe kernel to flash to get clockwork mod and then go over that to get to JB?

Any advice?
[Galaxy Note GT-N7000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] warfareonly:
If you want just stock, i.e. no root or anything, just go back to gb and flash official JB through PC Odin.

Alternatively, you could also straightaway flash official JB through PC Odin.(Not recommended)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleAustin:
I have a Samsung galaxy ace 2 x

Network Virgin

ics 4.0.4

GT-S7560M
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TechMasta:
note- i do not take credit of making the toolkit

first download the gt-s7560m root toolkit -

http://bit.ly/13K9Ute

1.	Copy “CWM-Superuser-3.1.3” to your sd card.

2.	Take the back cover off of your phone.

3.	Place your phone in download mode by turning it off and pressing “Power + Home + vol down” briefly for a second. Your phone should boot to a menu asking you to choose. Press “vol up” button to choose recovery mode,

4.	Start odin you should see the box with the com port yellow showing it found your phone

5.	Make sure only the following 3 boxes are check marked “f. Reset time” “Auto reboot” and “PDA” Load the recovery.tar file in the PDA section.

6.	Hit start, when odin finishes your phone will vibrate. When your phone starts to vibrates pull the battery!

7.	Now you can put your phone back together. I could not figure out how to enter recovery mode using the buttons so I did it using adb “adb reboot recovery”

8.	You should now be in recovery mode. Use the hardware buttons to navigate vol up and down to scroll. Home button to select and power button to go back.

9.	Select install zip from sd card, choose zip from sd card. Choose “CWM-Superuser-3.1.3.zip”

Once it’s done hit the power to go back and select reboot phone. You should have full root and custom recovery installed. :cowboy:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleAustin:
Thanks for the help
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleAustin:
this link is not working getting a 404 error code

first download the gt-s7560m root toolkit - http://bit.ly/13K9Ute
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleAustin:
Nvm got it working thanks anywas
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gilkauss:
I have set my SuperSU to automatically update. It was all fine and working on the previous versions, but when I checked now it gives me the error below.

"There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU cannot install it. This is a problem."

Please help.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
download this, boot into recovery, then flash it. its the latest supersu binaries http://download.chainfire.eu/315/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.25.zip
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dark Nightmare:
Or simply boot into twrp, reboot it and it's gonna give you the option to do so.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottx .:
Twrp should have told you that you lost root and gave the option to repair it.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gilkauss:
I tried to boot into recovery but it just showed me an android icon with red exclamation.

Also I dont have TWRP installed.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
So reflash TWRP recovery from here http://techerrata.com/file/twrp2/mako/openrecovery-twrp-2.4.4.0-mako.img in fastboot and then superSU http://download.chainfire.eu/315/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.25.zip in TWRP.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xda6969:
It seems that many users have had issues with the last few SuperSU updates in one way or another. Some get errors trying to update the binary. Some say Titanium Backup will no longer work unless you use the paid version of SuperSU. The latest installable zip doesn't work on all devices and needs a fix according to the first post on the official SuperSU thread...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

I decided to switch to the new Superuser by Koush.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luubutmucxanh:
sos

I tried but seems like i have to get the paid version of supersu in order to continue to use it so. can i go back from the beginning and re-root it with Clockworkmod ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
flash the supersu su binaries in your recovery and reboot, download it here http://download.chainfire.eu/333/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.34.zip
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luubutmucxanh:
Thank, n sorry wrong section, my phone is htc one m7. But i did flash the 1.34 version, still getting the message that supersu stopped working.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
well, im not familiar with rooting it, heres a link http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...one-m7-and-install-recovery-xda-developer-tv/
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickf123654:
I was having this same issue on my Note 2 (4.3). I seem to have found a way to restore root that may help you as well.

I think this issue may be caused by the SU app & binary updates. Uninstalling the updates has restored root for me.

Go to:

​

Settings > More > Application Manager > All > SuperSU > Uninstall updates

​

(menu options may be slightly different on other devices)

This will roll back SuperSU and hopefully restore your root access.

Let me know if this helps.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
again.. or just grab the latest supersu and flash it in recovery. thats all.

ALSO.. THE LAST POST IN THIS THREAD IS OVER A YEAR OLD. WHY BRING THIS THREAD BACK? LOOK AT THE DATES BEFORE YOU POST IN A DEAD THREAD.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nickf123654:
Yes, it would be nice if that worked ever time, but for me it didn't.

I tried flashing the latest SU many times and still ended up without root.

I am just trying to offer a solution that me be helpful to others experiencing the same issue I did.

If you are interested in the details, you can check out my thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/note-2-tmobile/help/4-3-custom-roms-losing-root-t2817114

To your point of this being an old thread, I just want to make the information easy to find. I searched all over the place and could not find a solution to my problem. Hopefully I can help someone else who is facing the same issue.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
you are also missing that its a completely different device. of all my time ive spent in the nexus 4 and nexus 5 forums here, not once has an issue like that been reported. this would better be posted in the note 2 forums.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raushanpd:
Thank u very much

Thanks a lot.........your suggestions helped me a lot...... :):good:
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] ajmal92:
i have tried may custom ROMS. wanted to know which ROM had the best battery back up. It can be GB, ICS or JB
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Theraze:
So, if you've tried many... which was it?
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] itzik2sh:
Barebone should be yoir baseline.

sent from me
[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] gizmoscoop:
Yeah, tell us. I want to know too.:D
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiddownloader:
Im running cm10 unofficial rom and I downloaded a LCD resolution thing and changed it and clicked reboot it wouldn't reboot so I tried reflashing my rom the thing is my rom isn't on the sd card anymore since I deleted it, please help!!!! :(
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiddownloader:
Can I get another sd card and put the rom on there, transfer to my phone and flash the rom and then turn off phone and put my old sd card?

^ I don't think I can do the above since that means I have to actually get into my phone to download Clockwork Mod Recovery.

Please help, I'm using cm10 rom and I downloaded a lcd resolution app, it reboot my phone but it wouldn't load, now I have to flash the rom again so that I

can use my phone again, but my rom isn't on the sd card, what do I do?

I cleared dlavik cache, cache, and mount sd card or something like that. Help please!
[Optimus One, P500, V Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sweetnsour:
Instead of making many threads for each of your problems, you should just make one and list all your problems there.

You should always understand the process before you begin in the first place.

You can keep your old sdcard. Just boot into recovery, mount usb storage, copy your rom from the computer to the sdcard, unmount usb storage, and flash the rom.