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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
I did Google it and found Nothing about you "dabble in electronics" :p

Ok, b@ll busting aside ;), you do realize you are on XDA forum, talking about a very highly anticipated product, and the first one who was lucky enough to receive it? So everybody is looking up to your reviews and hoping you will have some semi-coherent write up about the product, the fitment, the functionality, the capacity, etc. People do get frustrated because all they read are pages with rant about "lipo". I personally do appreciate you taking your time to explain about different types of battery technologies, but you also have to understand that people are anxious to hear about the battery itself and how it performs. Don't get frustrated...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
I got mine yesterday morning at 730am shooter.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] stefanofax:
Any chance to have it in europe?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] thedrmonkey:
Actually, he wasn't the first one since 2 or 3 other people before him posted saying they received theirs.

Anyways, here's the first link when you Google (like he said to do) "the difference between lithium ion and lithium polymer" and it says the complete opposite of what he's saying about cycling and cell memory.

http://www.batteryeducation.com/2006/04/what_is_the_dif.html

I would trust the manufacturer over someone that "dabbles in electronics" and still doesn't use any punctuation.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
Does anyone who actually has a clue have anything to report?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Yeah I wasn't even mean or insulting, got a nice stern warning tho after I called him a smart ass for making assumptions about my character based on my avatar and tapatalk sig "I like to break stuff:D" :rolleyes: I was saying I'll probably get infractions now since he's going to be insulted by my posts again, even tho I blocked him before I said something stupid to him.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] doroyce05:
Soooo, I'm guessing a lot of people will get this item today? I have a Hyperion 6200 and I really like. I'm not using a case since it just makes the phone even bigger.

Then I came across this and I'm considering on getting it. After using my phone (9am to 6pm) of constant Spotifying during work, i would get around 65% battery left. I mean I know I don't need the extra battery but the built in case might be very useful. I'd like to give a THANKS now to who ever want to do a review on this item :o
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
I'll be doing some real testing outside the phone when I get it, UPS says it's on the truck now. I'll probably give it a run in the phone before I do that, overnight charge then run to zero. I have a long history in battery monitor widget to compare it to as a quick, basic compare. Then I'll run it down on my discharge testers. It'll take for freaking ever though, even if its only half it's sticker rating. That's OK, the tests are all automated.

I have no idea where he's getting 2.0V at low % reported in Android. No phone battery will let you get that low. The protection board they all have has a hard cutoff at about 2.8V on every one I've ever tested. I usually run them down to about 2.9V on the test rigs, and to <5% on the phone. And as the test setups have a known resistance and measure the actual current use, I know for sure how much capacity the battery has. I have tested against OEM cells and gotten at or above sticker rating for Samsung and LG. Third party cells are all over the place. I've decided that for anything direct from China/HongKong, they add a random number to the stock cell capacity and put that number on the sticker. I've even taken apart some of them, and the capacity I got in testing was laser etched on the cells themselves, while the sticker had a much higher number on it. :rolleyes:

Don't put too much stock in the % reading on your phone. It's a guess based on the voltage. The problem is, lithium cells have a very flat discharge curve, so it's very difficult to predict actual capacity from voltage alone. Call it an educated guess and move on. Oh, and for AOSP anyway, Google developers are on record saying that the whole "calibrate your phone" thing is BS and running a full discharge/recharge doesn't do anything for the % meter on Android. It's possible Samsung changed something there, but I doubt it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] alexheng81:
Finally have ordered it off amazon. Hope the battery won't disappoint me! Keeping my fingers crossed ...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
Excuse me if this sounds rude but here goes: Just because you misunderstand what "shipping" means it's not a reason to blame the retailer. For your benefit, here's what shipping means: The act of a carrier taking it from the distribution center to the destination.

It does not mean processing and handling. Processing and handling is the amount of time it takes from the time the order is taken until it arrives in the carrier's possession, usually at a loading dock.

These are specific definitions and no matter how you "feel" about it these terms are industry and legal standards.

Most retailers do their best to get the product into the carrier's possession as quickly as possible. Often, if the product is in stock, it's possible to get the product to the carrier on the same day and you'll actually get it the next day. Unfortunately, that's not always the case.

Some companies, including the one I work for, offer a premium handling option (for a fee) to make sure that the product goes out today. You're paying to get moved up in the queue.

All of the above, of course, presumes that the product is in stock. If it's not in stock then it will take longer to process. You can still request 1 day shipping, though, so that it gets to you as quickly as possible.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] e46tuning:
Patiently waiting for mine to get here today...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] TabGuy:
That's approximately correct. The real answer is that every bank treats credit cards differently. Some hold authorizations for 3 days as you state, some up to 21 days. It's up to the bank that issued the card. Additionally, the longer I wait to ship after getting an auth the more I pay to the credit card company. Thus, I don't want to get a full authorization until it's less than 24 hours to shipment.

Also, the $1 auth is just to see if the card is working, the billing address given is correct and that the expiration date is good. There's a caveat there because the $1 auth is often what the credit card number thieves use to determine if card is valid and, because of that, a bank may put a card on hold if it gets $1 auth request. My company has run into that.

In addition, the problem is that, for many banks, an authorization can only be used once. Let's say you order 2 items for $1,000 each and I ask for a $2,000 authorization. And, let's also say that those items ship at different times. When the first one ships I charge your card for $1,000. When the second one ships I try to get an new auth for $1,000. Since the old auth of $2,000 is still there (the unused portion doesn't get released for up to 21 days even though it can't be used), you my now go over your limit and I can't ship the product. That means I have to get my customer service department to get a conference call with you and your bank to get them to release the unused portion of the first auth. This is labor intensive and eats into profits. So, generally, I will get a $1 auth at the time of the order and re-auth just for the shipping amount at the time of picking.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] thedrmonkey:
Don't excuse yourself as you're not being rude at all; you're just stating everyday known facts that this guy OBVIOUSLY doesn't even know or think apply to him. I'm sure he'll come in here spouting off nonsense about how he's older and been around longer and knows more than we do (despite the fact that we all keep disproving him with written facts). It's about time he got put on the ignore list so I don't have to see his ignorance.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kminatta:
Yeah, several of us have posted that we got ours, too. Some people need to feel important and make ridiculous claims to boost their Interweb cred. :o
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
You guys are seriously derailing from the topic. We are here to learn more about the battery not Amazons shipping practices. Please stick to the topic and don't feed the trolls... im within an hour or so from an early morning delivery so I can give the forum a unboxing and detailed pics
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kminatta:
After charging the battery all night, I have had the phone off the charger for an hour and 45 minutes playing around with it reading the news and xda on full brightness. Battery is at 95%. Not looking good compared to my Anker.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] IsolatedAbyss:
My external battery is able to power the MHL adapter. It does have a 5V 2.1A outlet so I'm not sure if other external batteries will also work the same.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
Which do you have?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] IsolatedAbyss:
I have a 12000mAh version of this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2212712
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] drnihili:
Based on the size, it looks like they're powering it with a bank of 18650 cells. Do you happen to know?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
It will likely get stuck at 3%. It needs time to calibrate.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] IsolatedAbyss:
No idea. Sorry.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mufaddalezzi:
Is this avalaible in india?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Since the battery is only available thru amazon I would say their shipping IS relevant to the topic. But yes feeding trolls is always bad, however it is always good to give correct information so people who don't know that a troll is trolling don't fall into the trolls trap.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mhoepfin:
Just got mine and it is very nice. Makes the phone weigh a ton!

The tpu case is more soft touch flat feeling than glossy. Kind of like the battery door covers that Seidio makes for their extended batteries.

Time will tell on how well the battery does, but overall an impressive package.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] RafaelCC90:
halkren incostancy

I'm looking to buy one too.. He leaves the device uncomfortable?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cliq:
can we have pictures please??
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Just read back a bit. There are a bunch of pics already...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40450783&postcount=306

Just one post with some.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] doroyce05:
How are the buttons responding with the case? Do you get a nice feedback that lets you know that you pressed the button? Are all the ports fully accessible?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
I love the feedback from the buttons.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] uberjon:
Ports all accessible. Even the thicker usb connectors work fine. Buttons give good feedback
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] doroyce05:
Oh wow, Darn im really considering on getting this and maybe selling my Hyperion 6200. I really like the idea of the built in case.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
Pics. http://imgur.com/a/AyZ6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USDAfFxVxOo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Video

Holy crap was this hard to do when you dont know the OS. The other battery is from nikingstore.com for $8 w/free shipping
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] doroyce05:
Would you guys happen to know on how much Thicker this will add compared the the Hyperion extended battery? Also compared to a standard Note 2 in an Otterbox? Thanks
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] osophat71:
Roughly the same thickness to an otterbox defender case. Also the battery sort of makes the phone top heavy
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Chadastrophic:
The tpu case isn't as sticky as I'd like it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mhoepfin:
Phone with battery and case weighs about 3/4 lb.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] snrbobo:
I can't compare to the otterbox, but i have the hyperion battery. My ZL battery was just delivered to my house. When i get my hands on it i'll post pics of them compared.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] bigd5783:
Anyone looking to get one of these cheap look at amazon. They only have the gray one but I went ahead and picked one up at the $40 price instead of waiting for them to go back up to $80
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
Amazon is the only place to buy it. It's been priced at $39.99 since well before it was ever released. The $79.99 price on Amazon is a gimmick to make you feel like you're getting a deal. They do this with all kinds of products.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] doroyce05:
Thanks, I would really appreciate it. I just a had a picture of my self getting smacked on the face with a 3/4 lb phone. It had happened before with my Hyperion when i was web browsing laying on my back then BAM!! phone -> face = Hurts like hell:crying:
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Just got mine.. 61% out of box. It's okay to use it while charging for the first time, right?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mhoepfin:
Just tried to listen to some music in the car over bluetooth and it couldn't keep the connection. I think the battery especially the big slab over the phone is interfering with the radios.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
my battery depleted 5% in 2 hours this morning, but now it has been stuck at 95% for 5 hours.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Mine was about the same % when I installed it. Yes, go ahead and use while charging. It's no different than any other battery. I've had it in for about an hour. Working great. I like the feel of the buttons as well. For a TPU case, it's much... stiffer?... than most I have seen. It has a good feel. Ports, S-Pen, mic, speaker, all easy to access/use. Holes for flash/cam line up nicely. I actually like the phone thicker and heavier. I know that's not the "in" thing with phones, but they feel like kid toys now days. :D

Obviously, I can't comment on capacity yet. I haven't even charged it up all the way yet.

The fit of the battery is good, feels solid when installed. I don't see any way it could have NFC though. There's nothing on the case to connect to the antenna contacts. I don't use NFC much, so I don't miss it. That said, it IS annoying that the product page says it's there. I knew it probably wouldn't be because of the posts here, but that's no excuse. Hopefully the future case includes it. I think they should put it on the battery itself. It's big enough that the contacts should be easy to hit. Bonus points if they release a cheap NFC sticker we can self-install for existing customers.

Unless capacity really sucks, this battery is a win, IMO. I even installed a FlyGrip on the TPU case, it's working nicely even with the extra weight. I was concerned that the weight and the TPU might combine to make a FlyGrip not work well.

It will probably take a few days to do a proper capacity test, as it will probably take 10 hours to discharge. I'll post here with test data when I have some.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
I've been using BT headphones for over an hour with it installed, working fine here. Cellular and WiFi don't show a significant difference either. So 2 data points.....
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mhoepfin:
After a few hours with this I am back to my stock battery. Make sure you can take the girth and weight. Was hard to type and the phone was really too heavy for me.

Will stick with just an extra stock battery on those days I need it.

I will try the zero lemon again in a few days...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
That's what I did. I tried a 6200 and didn't like the awkward lump on the back so I ordered an anker 3100 and an external charger and never plug in anymore I just swap batteries whenever I hit 10% or so.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] nutpn:
Anypne else do the otterbox cut out for their zerolemon battery
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Send me an otterbox and I'll try it. :D

I think you would lose a lot of the back plate from the case doing that. I would think it wouldn't be as able to protect your device with that much gone. I could be wrong, but for what those cost, I'll pass on finding out. I'm curious to see what ZL does with the hard case they say will be available in summer. If it's good, and the battery itself ends up being a quality part, I can see them selling a lot of them.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
My battery stats are all messed up. Had my phone off charge for 8 hours and it says 41 minutes under battery. Hopefully they straighten out.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
When it hits 100% while powered on the battery stats will automatically clear out and reset :thumbup:

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] faded03cobra:
They read normal till about 30 minutes ago. Reset for no reason...which seems odd.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
That is odd if they reset for no reason. If you're still up in the 90% range try charging it back to 100% so they reset and then run it down to <15% I usually try not to get below 5% before I swap batteries. I change em between 5 and 15% and then charge the dead one in an external charger. My battery stats reset every time I put a fresh battery at 100% in. If I don't let it charge to 100 it just adds to the previous battery's stats.

☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] farfromovin:
I think you could play heavy 3d graphics games on your note 2 with this battery and struggle to kill it in a single day lol. What a beast!
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] rodger-sp:
Here is the 9300 battery and case with the U.A.G. for size comparison.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] rodger-sp:
The s3 6300 and the note 2 9300.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lovekeiiy:
holy bat turds, that's a monster. that is soo tempting. It's like having a Anker Astro 3 10,000mha built into the phone. The way I use my phone, that would be nice have. I'm still trying to wrap my mind on the phone having 9.3A of power storage.

Although, it would be nice if they did have the NFC built into the batter or something. I haven't used NFC as of yet, but I do have the Google Wallet setup.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mike61096:
I really hope I can mod my otterbox defender case to fit this battery...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] taob:
Any idea if they'll ship to Canada?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Double0EK:
I think it will fit even without cutting the Defender back cover. Maybe just removing the inner cushion will work. We'll see in 17 days plus how ever long it takes to receive it.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eddie3130:
You sir are correct its definetly worth a try.. Would love to see someone give the mod a try.. now that i look at it better al it needs is just a bigger cut in the hard plastic internal of the defender. Might even stay flush an not make the rubber exterior bulge up. Keeping hopes up

sent from my Cricket Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] mike61096:
Yea, I'm definitely going to try it out witj my defender and post my results here. Worst comes to worst, I'll just get otterbox to send me a replacement inner shell if I screw something up.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] kubbur87:
Would buy it if it had a hard case
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] one80oneday:
Not sure adding NFC antenna is going to work through the battery if it's placed between the battery and the phone. I've heard NFC doesn't even work through those thin metal backs. Also wedging something between the phone and battery would make it easier for the battery to pop out since there isn't a back door holding it in. If you place the NFC antenna on the outside of the battery you'll need to figure out a way to still get it connected to the phone somehow. Hope someone can do it though :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] pcorlatan:
I love the idea of so much battery life but I'm afraid once I try it for a few days it'll be overwhelmingly big. I carry around a spare battery full time anyway so I wonder if the benefits will be worth it. I guess for vacations and long trips it'd be useful.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] -EViL-KoNCEPTz-:
All you'd have to do is attach the nfc to the inside back of the case or the outside of the battery and then use copper tape to run the leads between the contacts. Not too difficult. You could actually semi permanently attach the nfc and copper tape directly to the battery so it stays there. The nfc antennas can be bought on ebay or amazon or other interwebz vendors for reasonable prices with somd searching.

That being said, I wouldn't use this battery as its ugly as ****.

I like to break stuff! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] vectron:
For this much extra capacity, probably some backpack battery that will clamp to your case and will connect to micro-usb port would be ideal. Just from my personal experience, watching a movie for an hour or two is what usually drains my battery the most. So for that occasion would be good to have something clamped on to charge the main battery without taking my current case off. In a car with GPS I have it on car charge, and during normal every day use of the phone OEM battery is more than plenty (typically charge it every other day).

But with all that said, having 9300 mAh battery still sounds awesome!!! :p
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] eddie3130:
Yea this would make things alot easier if i do end up getting that motorcycle ive been wanting. No need to cary no extra battery or chargers. Also less stress on the charging port cus it Seems to be most android phones achilles heel, seen way to many break an cant be charged anymore. Its a sad fate no doubt

sent from my Cricket Note 2
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] lovekeiiy:
this would be interesting to have. I like that it comes with a case, so technically, you don't need to mode one up. My biggest issue, my car dock wouldn't work with it since it's designed for the normal battery. I suppose one could use a clingo or something like that.

Just think, it's like having a small brick. Not many people would have it so it would be distinctive, LOL.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] got556:
I want it. My anker 6200 rocks but this would be nuts. Added it to the wish list on amazon.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
Titanium Grey: http://amzn.com/B009RROONQ

Whatever White: http://amzn.com/B00A533DBA

(I know this one also says "grey" but since the other one is "Titanium Grey" I'm guessing this is the "Whatever White" one...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Evofusion:
This is just insane. Definitely in for one when they come out, if only just because of how ridiculous it is.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] devynbf:
"Marble White".
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ppn7:
I really want to see your screen on time baby !! 15h+ maybe ?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] abowlby:
Good lord that thing looks like an old claw foot bathtub! :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Just a little note for those trying to gauge charge time in their phones. Mine has been showing 100%, but charging for about 30min. The red LED is on and such. I figure, if the phone isn't showing the green light, it's not 100% yet. Feels like the 100% progress bars. :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] xbltheshadow:
Same here, status bar has been showing 100% for about an hour and a half, personally, but still says "charging" with red LED light on. Will be interesting to see if this happens for every charge, or if it's just for the first charge.

Edit: Should mention I'm using the Samsung 2A wall charger and cable that was included with the phone

Edit 2: Just under the 2 hour mark of being at 100%, charging light is green.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] 1stx2:
That's the same thing mines doing.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Old MuckenMire:
My Mugen has always done what you guys are describing so I would say it's normal