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[HTC One S] NQNH:
I've read in german forums that the HTC One S/X/X+ will get updates in the next months which will including:

- Blink Feed

- Additional camera features

- Zoe (full automatic video editor)

- and hopefully more?

the article also says that the update will NOT include all features of Sense 5.

for the german folks:

http://www.techstage.de/news/HTC-Sense-5-BlinkFeed-und-Zoe-Update-fuer-aeltere-Android-Phones-1806391.html

for the english people:

sry, I don't find a link with the same content
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
Re: HTC Sense 5.0 rumours?

Great :D
[HTC One S] kurtxcobain:
Nice! I hope Sense 5 will worth the update!
[HTC One S] ICWS:
AW: HTC Sense 5.0 rumours?

Ha! I told you so. :D

We won't get fully featured sense 5!
[HTC One S] IntelligentAj:
Precisely, i don't know about everyone else but i thought Sense was alright until i removed the bloat and flashed a custom ROM. I set my phone back to stock to compare and it's not even close.

As for the lagging issue they definitely can do some optimization but I'd blame the skins before I blame the OS for any lag since most of those tie down system resources. Also I've heard nothing about the S4 or the One lagging. The consensus seems to be both are fluid
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
The GS 4 does lag, most of the reviewers and users (there is a pretty big thread in the gs 4 sub forum about it) have mentioned about it and from playing with a number of devices in different stores, it is very laggy (supposedly turning of the smart features reduces lag but it didn't fix it for me), the htc one is the fastest/smoothest android phone that I have used to date, followed by the nexus 4.

That is down to bloat/features and probably just Samsung's poor software/driver optimisation with the snapdragon chipset as the GS 3 s4 was a mess too compared to the exynos version.

As said, nothing wrong with the stock android base, it is the software optimisation on the skins and bloat that makes them lag.

I still find the one S to be extremely fast and smooth, just as good as the nexus 4 (both running their out of the box stock ROMs)

There are still places where you see occasional lag but at the end of the day, there will always be lag on every OS, even the iphone 5 has a few areas where it lags.....

Plus you have to remember the amount of android phones out there with different hardware and different skins so imo it is pretty impressive the way they can make it run pretty damn quick/smooth overall where as apple only have a few devices to work with.

Unfortunately most of android and the apps aren't optimised to take advantage of the current hardware power especially quad core CPUs, that is why a good next gen processor like our S4 krait out performs the GS 3 and one X in real world usage as it has more performance per core etc. which is more important currently. Although this may/should change within the next year or two as google have released the tools etc. in order to better support multi-core CPUs and am sure that with 4.3 or KLP we will see better utilisation of the quad chipsets etc. and then we will see the true benefits of quad over dual i.e. far better multi-tasking and better for power efficiency.

The one area that I want google to concentrate on is the updates/fragmentation problem, it annoys me so much with just how bad it is, be it phones not getting support for any longer after a year or taking 6+ months to get the next update.......
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
The Galaxy S4 is overwhelming with settings, i dont think i could cope.

As for the one S not getting the 4.3 update thats a load of nonsense (No pun intended) wait for the official response off htc.
[HTC One S] Seraz007:
yup the desire hd gettin 4.3 is a big faat joke! :mad: :D;)
[HTC One S] dabez:
You are absolutely right. As good as the one s is (and i will be keeping mine) HTC are well known for not supporting their mid range phones and the top end of the line are normally only supported for about two years.

I hope this trend changes as i've not been a fan of the larger smartphone and the 4.3 inch screen the HTC One S is more or less perfect of users like me. :( :(
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
I played around with a GS4 the other day and apart from the amazing screen I did notice the UI lag which is surprising considered its spec (I think our geo may even get the Exynos Octa-Core [also overrated, basically 2x quad core]).

I recently rooted and flashed a custom ROM when I heard we'd not get Sense 5.0 OTA and I must say apart from me missing the Sense camera PACman is more fluent then JB stock was for me. Besides TrickDroid 10.0 is getting us Sense 5 anyways.
[HTC One S] PulpzillA:
sad news im afraid guys :(

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/06/04/htc-one-s-sense-5-0-update-in-doubt/

Tweet translated:

Roman Komarov @ Gateways5 10H

@ Kormiltsev Welcome What do you think will be updated if at all One S? We do not need the date, etc. We need your opinion

Kormiltsev Andrey @ Kormiltsev 9H

@ Gateways5 not yet clear. Rather no than yes. There are of a technical nature.
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
HTC hopeless....... Im getting a stock gs4 for sure....
[HTC One S] :
Check out some custom Roms

Some devs are working on sense 5 already

It's laggy but give them some time and they make you a better Rom than HTC could make
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Community effort is community effort.

Still dont give HTC any excuse to abandon the one-year-old phone people paid a lot of money for.
[HTC One S] slainbybeats:
Yep same for me. If they won't give it to us and tell us something like "caused by technical issues" I will get something else next. I love sense and the build quality of HTC devices, but that update policy is just a great mess. They told us we would get it for sure!
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Do the following! Better to act now rather in 2/3+ months time as they most definitely won't be doing anything then....... show them that we do care! No point just a few people doing this either, need to get as many people as possible so share the link/info on twitter, facebook etc.
[HTC One S] slobo2712:
Seems like my comment that i'm posted last year on htc facebook page becomes a true....

november 2012
[HTC One S] Kevin336:
is it so difficult for a dev to port a HTC One 4.2.2 Sense 5 Rom to our One S ? ;)
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
There are already 2 ROMs in-port from the One with Sense 5. TrickDroid 10.0: (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2298253) and zenROM (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2308765). Both off the same base, a few bugs (BT, tethering, front camera) but otherwise pretty good already.

Here's an idea, those wanting Sense 5 could head on over and support the devs with the effort if HTC isn't going to bother anyways :)
[HTC One S] usaff22:
Front camera's been fixed by TeHashX ;)

It was a problem with the qHD resolution of the front camera. ATM only MMS quality front cam works, but should have VGA like Sense 4+ shortly.
[HTC One S] eqva:
front camera

I confirm that the front camera works by installing a special patch.
[HTC One S] freshmike:
I think we should submit a petition to HTC with the request for 4.2.2 and Sense 5 for HTC One S
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
If HTC didn't have the One to push customers toward they might actually listen, but they're into selling devices not supporting them. Petition = pointless. Besides, the community ports are probably closer to completion and have more tweaks then the HTC-supplied versions anyway.
[HTC One S] Dr.Alexander_Breen:
Even if HTC won't release the update, it won't be a huge issue. Sense 5 is less beautiful compared to 4+. At least that's that I think.
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
Sure I agree but I think everyone here is working on principle. Having run a few AOSP ROMs lately I'd have to agree since Sense 4 there's been enough to like about it that you miss it when you go AOSP. Maybe it's just me.
[HTC One S] maek_it_happen:
Sense 5 ,

it takes the sense out of sense .
[HTC One S] MattDN93:
Sense 4 took enough out of Sense to make it normal again, 3.6 was too over the top, Sense 5 is going where iOS7 and Win8 have gone, flatter it seems.
[HTC One S] F-L-Y-E-R:
Source: http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/05/28/htc-one-s-sense-5-update-in-doubt/
[HTC One S] joemanbui:
I decided to tweet HTC about it earlier today and this was their response.

http://imgur.com/efFUtfl
[HTC One S] Terminator19:
Have finally received an email back........
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
So if i understand it correctly, it basically says no sense 5 for one s?
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
He said "Sense 5.0" and "Android 4.2.2". I think he was talking about a modified version of Sense 5.1.
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
Oh god stop torturing yourselves.
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Lol
[HTC One S] RockR172:
Yeah baby! Lets rock n roll! :) <3

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[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
That's great ! Hope there'll really release this update :D

The Android 4.2.2 + Sense 5.1 update for HTC ONE arrives today :)
[HTC One S] freshmike:
I will believe it when I get it
[HTC One S] flex420:
count me in...

now they confirmed sense 5, means 4.1.2 no words for 4.2.2 wich would have sense 5.1.

like last year when they claimed to have 4.1 in late august / september, we got it late dezember? ... pathetic ( like now, the anouncment started on twitter)
[HTC One S] maek_it_happen:
Garbage
[HTC One S] ryanshew:
^^^^^ That part makes absolutely no sense...HTC one just got 4.2 with sense 5

HTC_One_S | S-OFF | ViperOneS_2.2.0 | Black&Blue_Inverted_Sense | Bulletproof_1.4

Inverted Sense _4+_and_5_click me
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
That's not so bad, differences between 5 and 5.1 are minors :)
[HTC One S] devgee:
Have you guys read this .

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2013/06/12/htc-one-s-android-4-2-update-given-slim-odds/
[HTC One S] slainbybeats:
Nothing new in there...
[HTC One S] Zonium:
Why they just tell us if its coming or not. And why Xda users get Sense 5 work almost perfectly in short amount of time and HTC don't? Maybe my first and last htc phone.
[HTC One S] evil89:
I don't know. Maybe they hire some unskilled developers. It seems strange what XDA can do and HTC can't.
[HTC One S] MrThreeChains:
HTC is a big company,they have other priorities than our "little" One S. Even if Camera,the System UI etc. works with some Sense 5 ports,its not 100% what our One S can deliver,because its not optimized for our phone. Its just modified to work imo.
[HTC One S] usaff22:
HTC will not release an update unless *everything* works perfectly. They won't release an update if Bluetooth is messed up or if FM Radio, Tethering etc. don't work. It's not like XDA where they can release an unfinished ROM and many users will enjoy it, in fact most "typical" One S users will whine and complain that critical functions don't work or battery life is bad or their phone lags. So it's not really a matter of "XDA can do it but HTC can't"
[HTC One S] gf7800:
So the creators of the Sense UI are unskilled devs :D

I don't think that's the case :) it is a matter of priority IMO
[HTC One S] .TanTien:
Actually without their work I don't think any XDA developer would create a ROM from ground on in his spare time. It's just impossible. And it requires hell a lot of skill to code a system/overlay like Sense where everything is working 100%.

Send from my hovering Note 2
[HTC One S] stefpaul:
No Sense for HTC ONE S

As far as i read a day ago, it seems that a htc guy from Russia said that it's possible that the HTC ONE S will not get Sense 5 since the phone is in 2 variants S3 / S4 and the S3 versions are too old so the process will cost a lot of money... So we will have to wait if we get the update or not...Seems to me that it's another marketing thing...The new Desire 600 is kind of the same in specs..but it runs @ 1.4 GHz and has andreno 203 not 220/225...but it runs SENSE 5 !
[HTC One S] ChrisAG:
It's unfortunate but speaking as someone who had a Galaxy Nexus from 4.0.x then 4.1.x and finally 4.2.x, I can say that we aren't missing much in not having 4.2.2. That update added very few useful features and even made the phone a bit slower than 4.1.x

It would be nice to have the incremental update 4.1.2 to fix a couple bugs, and Sense 5 looks interesting, but in the grand Android scheme of things 4.1.1 pretty much gives us a modern phone with Google Now cards, which itself will continue to improve.

The REAL improvement would be with 4.3 which is said to take advantage of Bluetooth 4.0, which our phones have. I say let's skip 4.2.2 altogether and get 4.3 but I doubt that will never happen.
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
Theres no features i want from stock android, i want the htc updates :)
[HTC One S] stefpaul:
True with some things, like bluetooth, but the sense interface makes things more interesting ! As far as AOSP, it's fast and not a memory eater!, but i miss some things when i go to a AOSP rom. For the moment i have my phone stock, nothing done on it, i used AOSP on my old htc hero and now on my tablet that's running CM 10.1 night builds and it works fine:D. Don't know why things are so hard to port when htc has the source code...:confused:

Stefan
[HTC One S] oori002:
So... I was contacting HTC few days ago and this is the conversation:

"Hi, Lately there was a lot of speculations about the upcoming firmware update to Android 4.2.2 with Sens 5 for the One S (s4 version). I was wandering, there is going to be an update? or not? Thanks in advice. Ori"

"Thank you Ori for contacting HTC regarding your HTC One S My name is Shai and I am a Technical Support Agent for the HTC Written Team. I’m sorry to hear that you are experiencing difficulties with your device. In order to help you, please mail me back the following details, using the link below : IMEI (Found by dialling *#06# from your keypad or in the back of your phone): Some units (One S ) will get the update but I need to check it according to the IMEI to make sure you will receive it as well. Thank you !"

"Dear Shai, Thank you for your answer! My device IMEI number is: **************** Regards, Ori"

"Thank you Ori, you will receive the update eventually but this process may spread over a few months time as the 4.2.2 hasn't started to roll yet and your device is a USA device and update is a rolling update and depends on geographical area as well. You just need to wait patiently and you will see the update automatically but again , it may take time."

It seems like the update is in its way..:) not sure though if it is going to be only for the S4, or also to the S3
[HTC One S] theguitarman94:
He probably got mixed up with the htc one. I believe it when I see it which I'm doubting more and more. I've seen so many employees give out false information. I wouldn't believe that.
[HTC One S] nexus.knightly:
That's what happens when all the devices have the One in them. Hopefully 4.2.2 comes to us because it would be a shame if HTC left us hanging.
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
Today this article said that we won't have the Sense 5 + Android 4.2 update. That's a HTC's France reponse on their Facebook page. Maybe not true...

http://www.hubfr.com/htc/pas-de-mise-a-jour-sense-5-pour-le-htc-one-s/
[HTC One S] psylooooo:
F**k you HTC ! :mad:
[HTC One S] oori002:
How can such a big manufacturer leave behind a product that is only 14 month old??? That's a SHAME! Apple (and many others) support their products for about 3 years!!!! Why can't HTC do the same??
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
Apple apply updates which make their old phones laggy, and without all the full rom's features. I prefer to stay on a "old" version, fully operational and stable.

Our One S weren't the HTC's flagship.
[HTC One S] oori002:
I'm very aware that Apple old devices aren't getting all the features... but still my friend's 3GS is running IOS 6.1.3 perfectly smooth. The Galaxy S2 is also getting 4.2.2 (and its two years old with older and weaker hardware)

Anyway, I think HTC needs to deliver better support for their products.. One year is not good enough. Our One S can easily handle the last Android with out problems...
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
You're right, but we have to understand their choice. When we bought this phone, the HTC's update politics were very well known (since the Desire).

HTC has never been a huge company as Samsung or Apple. Their devs capacity could be reduced, they have more recent phones to update... and it's a marketing advantage to present new phones with new system.
[HTC One S] FlyinGrub:
That exactly what the aricle says but there is the S3 version... wich is a lot less opwerful than S4 and htc have to port all the feature for this processor wich is a lot of work ! :eek:
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Do you work for HTC?

---------- Post added at 11:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:04 AM ----------

They release the phone, they then need to support it to satisfy customer.

If not capable then release less new phone?

Wat they do is release new phone to attract ppl to buy, then leave the owner in the dark.

And still ppl find excuse for them? Wth
[HTC One S] FlyinGrub:
I didnt find an excuse i just translate thiq article

Envoyé vers l'infini par PlanetExpress
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
I didnt mean you specifically. Sorry if it sounded that way.
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
I agree. I was just looking for explainations, we don't work for HTC but we can imagine and understand which reason causes these decisions of no-update :)

We can't say anything. If you don't like HTC's mentality, you could buy your next phone from another company... When we bought the One S, we didn't know if we'll receive updates. That's not a part of the deal... just bonus.

But I'm agree, and I don't like this too.
[HTC One S] evil89:
This is what HTC Italy told me about the update.

Sad news.

https://www.facebook.com/HTCITALIA/...ffset=0&total_comments=3&notif_t=feed_comment
[HTC One S] yooouuri:
Translation?

Google translate:

Damn htc -.-
[HTC One S] Zonium:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
[HTC One S] devgee:
Confirmed

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/02/htc-confirms-one-s-will-no-longer-receive-android-updates/
[HTC One S] dakoookie:
and I thought LG's update policy for their Optimus 2x was bad. I would've never imagined anybody would beat that.
[HTC One S] nexus.knightly:
Earlier in the year they did promise an update.

http://androidandme.com/2013/02/sma...everal-current-phones-in-the-next-few-months/
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
They did the same thing for the HTC Desire and Sensation.
[HTC One S] devgee:
It's reallty sad , the phone is just one year old and even has all the performance to run 4.2 but HTC :thumbdown::mad:
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Ah well.

They also got my confirmation that this is my first and last htc phone, and my family's last htc phone.
[HTC One S] .TanTien:
I'm ready to throw my htc devices out the window and film it, during filming I'd describe how bad htc is and how I hate them and then I would send everything, the video with the broken phones to HTC's CEO.

Send from my flying Note 2
[HTC One S] vampsoft:
i say, good bye HTC for ever...

Enviado desde mi HTC One S
[HTC One S] light_n_roses:
just opened the thread to post the news of no update of sense 5,0 for the One S but from all the screw against HTC it seems to me that someone has already posted it!
[HTC One S] desmolab:
worst update policy ever! it seems to me to look at desire hd update...

Inviato dal mio HTC One S con Tapatalk 2
[HTC One S] Legacyleader:
After the Desire Desaster i gave HTC antoher Shot with the One S.... worst mistake i did... ok the Phone is great but the lack of support is just ridiculous! It seems i just have to stick with Nexus Phones...
[HTC One S] BackDaws:
Id stick with nexus phones but god I hate stock android, it's bland and boring, it comes with no useful widgets and no extra features that you get with htc, how hard and expensive must it be if they can't support their phones for more than 5mins ?
[HTC One S] kvasnevsky:
Ups, they did it again...

How idiotic is company policy which leads to spending millions on all those Beats and on-line gaming services acquisitions while simple fact of completely empty niche for PROPER 4.3 inch phone is ignored? One S almost managed to fill it - metal body, light and slim, acceptable performance, good screen.

But you CAN'T differentiate from competition when you silently replace CPU to the older version and customers after couple of days realize that they bought something else than you marketed with fanfares. Actually I STILL would buy it since older CPU performs pretty OK and battery performance gets just slightly worse, but appreciate correct and fair information BEFORE I paid my money.

And you CAN'T differentiate when you REGULARLY drop "smaller screen" models from OS updates after 4-6 months (don't say anything about 1 year - I haven't got any updates recently so you didn't invest any dime to the development for last 3 - 6 months).

And PLEASE - stop thinking that EVERYBODY needs phone which can't be held with one hand, there are customers who prefer smaller form factors but they need (and ready to pay) PROPER phone of such size.

Stop spending money on marketing bull****, stop crazy cloning of models, return to basics - I need DECENT 4.3 inch phone with 2 years support (typical period of operator contract) and I will buy your next phone again.

Now I have ZERO loyalty to the brand and will go for any alternative which offers decent build quality (e.g. metal or kevlar body)...

If you still want to cut costs and misuse your own R&D, give me at least possibility to update ROMs to the new stock Androids without loosing the warranty.
[HTC One S] searchworlds:
Subscribe to this petition, it won't make the difference... but we can try!!! :

http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x#share
[HTC One S] tuesdaydev:
Petition for one s

There is a petition going on on change.org

http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x#share

Strength in numbers! :highfive:
[HTC One S] .TanTien:
I have to agree on that. 4,3-4,5" was always the sweet spot for me. Even though I love my Note 2 I sometimes wish I'd have a smaller phone. I also owm a Sensation and love its form factor. Perfect mix of being small but still having a relatively big screen. If there was a nice 4,3" phone again out there, which is not from HTC I'd buy it right away (yes I am considering on buying a Galaxy S4 Mini but I want to wait till Motorola updates their phone line up. They seem to have some pretty sweet models in work).

Send from my hovering Note 2
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
Come on guys we need more ppl at the petition.
[HTC One S] ttaidapos:
Signed
[HTC One S] alex.foto:
It's official we're stuck on 4.1 and sense 4+..I've read it on many sites,here's one of them..

http://www.gsmarena.com/no_android_42_jelly_bean_or_sense_5_for_htc_one_s-news-6309.php

http://www.change.org/petitions/htc-give-the-one-s-continued-support-like-the-one-x#share
[HTC One S] aref9200:
Bad news!!!!

HTC One S won't update to Android 4.2.2 and Sense 5:(:(:(:(:(:crying:
[HTC One S] searchworlds:
What do you think if we start a facebook group or page !

I think the petition is a good start, but we need to get htc attention!

One way could be to create a page or a group on facebook of disappointed customers that can start a campaign consisting in posting on Htc related pages to express the disappointing of this shameful updates policy!

I started a group and a page on facebook, there are the links: GROUP and PAGE

We can do the same also on Goggle+!!!!

What do you think?
[HTC One S] alex.foto:
I just liked the page and joined the group.hope we get more people to do that.

Btw..they should update de s4 and s3.I personaly have Htc One s C2..
[HTC One S] maniseti:
signed :good:
[HTC One S] sGollSv:
HTC may thinks if the one s won't receive a update we, the one s owners would buy a HTC One. But at least I'll never ever ever ever buy a HTC smartphone again!
[HTC One S] ibancioiu:
Fu*king idiots (i meean that 90% from HTC team are idiots). WE WANNA GET SENSE 5 AND ANDROID 4.2.2!!!!!!
[HTC One S] Atok_fr:
HTC's devs are not at your service. Please respect them.

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One S en utilisant Tapatalk 4 Beta
[HTC One S] yuan_1202:
U are WRONG.

They are at our service. We paid them to be.