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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
As one of the early purchasers, I think I'm in a good position to comment on capacity loss. I haven't noticed any. I charge at night, most nights. I still get about the same life I have in the past. I usually use less than 30% in a day, but have dropped 70% on a really busy day. So, I have done very few "full" cycles, just a lot of top-ups. Full cycles kill batteries, don't do it. That said, you should be able to expect a few hundred cycles before significant capacity loss (down to 80% of original). This is a general comment on Lithium based rechargeable tech, I know of no quoted specs on these specific cells/batteries.

For those that want to leave them sitting about for long periods not being used. Make sure you charge them up before doing that and maybe once a month or so. Try to keep them at about 80% full or 3.8 volts. Never let them spend significant time under about 10% or 2.9 volts. That will kill them off VERY quickly. Certainly don't discharge them then store them. You might as well throw them in the trash if you do that.

I'll run another full discharge test, in the name of science. :p

It will take a day or two to get results. Discharging takes a long time with these things.

Note that my single data point doesn't mean it's impossible for anyone else to have a real issue. They very well might. It might also be a rogue app or misconfigured phone. It's really not possible to say with any certainty without testing outside the phone so you can measure the actual current consumption.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
well to be fair, you have the ability to utilitize the warranty if it's only been two months, sorry you got a lemon [ahahaha been during to say that] but manufacturing processes are never 100% perfect.

I've had mine for about 4 months now; still going strong.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
You think I just got a fluke? I didnt really think of it that way I just figured they all acted this way after reading a few posts of people reporting the same results as me. Thanks im definitely going to look into it.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Here is from today. Give me you input please to help me decide. Thanks

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
Um yeah actually it does, ever heard of the Optima batteries?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
that's worse than what I get... sorry I don't have any screen shots of a zl battery rundown... I would contact them. you have to remember, especially on forums, most people don't post to say they're having no problems, they post to say they DO have problems. so it can get a little skewed from reality.

what's it hurt to try and get a replacement though? the easiest way to tell if the zl is not performing well is to do a rundown with your stock battery and then the zl. if your zl is giving you less than 3x the battery life of your stock battery, it's not at optimum performance. I know it's hard to simulate the same usage with each battery but just try to the stick with the same ROM/kernel/setup and see how it goes.

and try to go through a FULL rundown with the zl, it is 3 times the capacity of the stock battery so you can't completely trust the software to calculate how much voltage/percentage is truly left. when I first got it I was at 5% for hours at one point.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] wase4711:
I sure do; I was partners with Johnson Controls, selling millions to Wal Mart for many years when they came out with them...they are 2-4 times as expensive as a conventional battery, so whats your point?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
You stated charge cycles or if it were to die and recharge. That it couldn't. And honestly no they are not the battery for my car cost $110 for yellow top Optima battery it only cost $100 more.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
I know nothing about Optima batteries, just saying he DID say 2-4 times the cost, so if it's $100 more than $110... it's twice the cost.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
True but it'll last 3 times longer than my 110 dollar battery so 3x 110 equals 330 vs 200ish. Makes sense plus other features.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
hmm I need to look these up.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Guys just ignore him please. This thread is turning into ignorance and dont let it go there do to one persons post.

This thread is a zero lemon thread. You can talk about your issues your likes dislikes whatever you want pertaining to 0 lemon. According to him all the people here reporting issues they are finding with the battery after some use should not be posting here but throwing it in the trash and ordering another because we only paid $39 for it. Does any one else see the ignorance in this post. Dont lower your iq 50 points to argue its not worth it. Over and out.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] XxLostSoulxX:
Hope your not directing that to me yes I was trying to make a point. However I love Zero lemon and hope it works for quite some time.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Not you the guy who attacked me a page or 2 back for being a whiner and a cry baby or whatever. Anyway im done. Back to the battery.

I love it 2 beleive me I would rather have the stock size phone if there is not much of a difference that all. Gonna contact lemon tomoro and see what they say.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Burginthorn:
Why not go all variations? I have a Hunter F, Samsung Flip case, a Seidio case and some others. If I'm going out somewhere nice like dinner or movies its the Hunter F hands down. For work its mostly the Seidio because of the larger capacity battery. Sometimes I just feel like swapping it out for something different.

This is why I got the ZL its different, really different and offers a much larger capacity. I can't wait to pull this one on the guys at work (most have iPhone 5's) and then tell them I get some over the top lie of a week + life out of it before I have to charge it :P (just to rub it in)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] r333xxh4v0k:
The 9300 is really want got me hooked to my note 2 lol
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
wamna see different and uniqe I incorporated my hunter case with the lemon. I did a write up and pics a while back,

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LBJM:
For those of you using this battery and having a capacity drop after two months, have you been running the same rom/software config this whole time? I'm not seeing a drop in capacity. If I reboot my phone I tend to see a large increase in capacity, the battery gauge is still lying. My phone dropped down to 95% extremely quick and when I rebooted the phone it was back up to 98%. I use smart battery monitor to keep track of the battery and how long I'm off the charger and that has not changed. Try using the phone just like you did when you first got the battery and see if it still lasts. If it's not a change in software it could be the fact that your usage of the phone has increased since you started using the battery. I'm going to try to keep a closer eye on my usage to see if my battery is degrading or not.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Burginthorn:
Would you have a link for that post? I wouldn't mind reading it :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] baileyjr:
I don't think there's much wrong with that battery mate.. You have had 11hrs of screentime. Thats not what I would call typical usage, well not for me anyway :D
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
My discharge is complete. Capacity is down a little from new, but not by enough I would have ever noticed on the phone. 9041mah. That's 97% of original capacity. My first test was almost exactly 9300. The difference could also be that I didn't let it sit once the light went green. I think they do top off a little when you do that.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Im pretty sure it was im this thread. I cant look for it now im at work but if you cant find by this afternoon I will get it for you. Sorry

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---------- Post added at 09:59 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:26 AM ----------

Here you go http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42702773

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
They probably aren't. Only one of the persons having problems actually admitted that he was flashing roms frequently.

---------- Post added at 09:40 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:38 AM ----------

There is absolutely no reason to discharge down to 5%.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ttabbal:
Keep in mind, the battery gauge is a GUESS based on the current voltage. This is probably why the manufacturers usually don't have a 1% battery meter, and just show overall state. If you look at a typical Lithium discharge curve, it drops a little from full, then is nearly flat till shortly before it dies. It's a wonder the meters are as accurate as they are. It's also normal for batteries to have a little voltage drop when under load, so if you are gaming and such, using more power than usual, the meter might drop a bit, then bounce back up as the voltage stabilizes. This is perfectly normal.

I think part of the "it doesn't last as long as it used to" thing is that once you have that much capacity, you stop doing as much to conserve power. So it doesn't last as long time wise, but capacity wise it's still very close. The end result is that the meter goes down faster, but the device is doing more work, so it should go down faster. I use my phone a LOT more than when I had a stock battery, because I know I don't need to worry about it dieing before I can get to a charger. As a result, I probably couldn't make it 5 days on the ZL like I did when I first got it, but I know the reason for that is me, not the battery. My discharge test result this morning proves that, for my particular battery. It's entirely possible some others have a bad battery, for whatever reason. However, if you don't test outside the phone, you can't know for certain, you can only guess.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Good point. I just fully charged it. Im not looking at percantage anymore and im going to run it down and see what happens then report.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planetbeen:
Just chiming in with my experience. I've had the battery since early May-ish.

Just when I think maybe it's not lasting as long, I discover some annoying unexplained drain. You know, the kind that makes you lose 10% over night when it should be 0%. I figure as long as that's happening over night it means it's happening during the day but not as noticeable because I'm using the phone.

What I'm trying to say is for me at least, it's not the battery messing up but some app or something.

Most times I end up restarting, my mystery drain vanishes and then my next charge cycle is like night and day.

Right now I'm sitting at 1 day 21 hrs 42mins with 4 hours of screen time and I'm at 56%.

Seems about normal for me and for my experience so far. I usually charge around 15%. I don't try purposely to get down to 5% just charge overnight when it's under 30% at bedtime. Mainly because I don't want to obsess over the battery the next day. That's my whole reason for having this battery - no more worry about running out mid day no matter how I use it.

Fyi I am stock rom, no root. Regular out of the box note 2.

That's my 2 cents...

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] jivin_hipcat:
Working from the 3rd charge on this battery, I plugged it in to the AC last night after draining the battery completely through normal from use. This morning (about 9 hours charging) I checked the phone and it was at 60% and stated it was charging via USB. As I looked at the screen the percentage dropped from 60% to 59%.

I rebooted, and no change. I unplugged and plugged back in, and it immediately began charging from 60% (on AC) as normal. Anyone have this kind of issue with the battery?

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Yes it happened to most of us I think in the beginning. You have to plug in and unplug a couple times when starting the charge.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] planetbeen:
I've had the USB charging problem once with zero lemon and at least once with the oem battery. Both times that I noticed it I just unplugged from phone and plugged back in and it fixed it.

I don't think it's related to the battery itself.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cornelito:
13 days of moderate use with nearly 11hrs screen on and still at 5% which will last for 1,5 days............

Not bad though :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
Holy crap
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
The problem is with either your cable or the charger.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] JCreazy:
Don't even know how that is possible, what is your secret?

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] cornelito:
1) Low voltage profile with no performance lose

2) Wakelocks reduced to minimum for better deep sleep (95% all the time)

3) Greenify donated version

4) Deep sleep battery saver

5) Direct injection applied

6) Phone settings changed to increase battery life

7) and many others ......

I may need to write down a tutorial how to get such a good bettery life :)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Techronico:
11hrs of Screen On / 13 Days = Not using it...

Just kidding...sorta

On a serious note, good stuff. At least the phone was powered on and holding a charge. Also allowed people to call you just in case...although they didnt call you...almost nobody called you (joking again)
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] krUnALv99:
So, I like the battery, but i dont like the case. I keep hearing about a updated case coming out. (I may be mistaken) and i do like the Defender Otterbox Mod but just for a lil bit, it gives it a hump. It sucks but i might still get it.

Intake for car... Or Bigger Battery for phone.....

Decisions Decisions..... lol
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
How long did it take for most of you to get your battery in the mail. ..its been 5 business days for me I hope it shows up tomorrow
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
8 days...

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
Are you in the us
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Burginthorn:
Ordered mine on the 30th July.

Your estimated delivery date is:

Wednesday, August 14, 2013 -

Friday, August 23, 2013

I'll be waiting a while for mine to arrive.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] royukp1:
Took me 2 days on Amazon, now on my third day of use and still over 50% left on device.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Whats your screen time?

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Asking because I want to compare. Im also at 3 days but 14% left. I did a lot of theme flashing and app installs and tweaks. Just wondering. Heres mine

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Chadastrophic:
If you're only spending $40 for an intake, get the battery, Lol. But that's probably a discussion for a different forum.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Get the battery and your done. Just some flashing and tweaking to get it perfect.

Get the intake now you need carb or throttle body mass air exhaust etc... you get the point. You wont notice much of a difference with just an intake. Its one piece of a puzzle whereas you get the battery and your done. The rest is flashing kernels roms mods etc...id go for the battery

Unless your intake is broken and car wont run then intake would be priority.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
Got the zerlemon yesterday charged it for 12hrs now I can't wait to see how long it will last hopefully it lives up to its hype
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Heres proof of the hype...I posted screen shots yesterday...scroll up a couple posts and you will see. Yesterday 15% 3days 17hrs screen. Today almost 4 days and 20 hrs screen with 9%. Im riding this down to 1% just to see...:)

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
That's ridiculous. I'm getting 12 hours screen max on AOSP roms. Pretty sure my battery's a dud though, that's 12 hours with most of the usage continuous, rarely get more than a day and a half. Also my tpu case has gotten loose and putting the phone down on a hard surface too quickly results in a reboot. I'll have to email zerolemon about it I guess.

May I ask what rom/kernel combo you're using?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] Note_2:
Been on Carbon Roms July 16th version since it was released and have noticed the battery getting really bad. Had it since release. From 95% to 40% in 6 hours. 4 hours screen on. I'm pretty disappointed right now, but I'll update when it dies. Been torrenting for an hour.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
Im running Tweaked verizon version with Saber 36.6 kernel. I was running clean rom prior to this with perseus kernel and getting similar times. Heres what im left with today. I have to charge now because I need my phone tomorrow and wont be near a charger all day. One thing ive learned about this battery and people have told me in previous posts is you cant pay much attention to the percentage. Ot will show 10% left and then last 2 more days. I had 15% with 3 days and 17hrs of screen in my post above and now 12% later another full day plus 5hrs more screen time.

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LG13:
I'm running Beans 20 and Saber. Standard usage.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LBJM:
How far down are you letting the battery drain down to? Try using your phone till you get down to 5%. As for the case, how often are you removing the case from the back of the phone?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] :
Same exact dates for me. That's my week of vacation so I was going to blast through the battery as quick as possible since I'd have a ton of time to do so. Speaking of, anyone know of an app that will drain it on purpose?
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
My last run with the zero lemon was a day and a half (can't remember exactly) with just over 12 hours screen on.

In total I've taken the case off maybe 5 times in the 3 months I've had the battery. Anyway, I've emailed zero lemon about it and they've told me to email amazon (and what to include in the email) for a refund. Not sure if I wanna buy a new one at the moment, got the anker 3100mah pack with the external charger. Gonna stick with swapping 3 batteries for a while to see if I prefer it to the ZL.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] joshm.1219:
I don't know about a specific app but I was able to kill mine pretty quick running devil kernel cpu oc'd to 2ghz, gpu to 800mhz, forced gpu rendering and hardware overlay, full brightness, everything syncing constantly, then some GTA 3, etc.... I'd say your best bet is to get quadrant than keep running it
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] apallohadas:
There is no reason to force drain your battery. It does absolutely nothing. Use the phone as you regularly would. That's the best way to get a grip on how inaccurate the shown battery percentages are.

Another alternative is to look at the power settings for whatever rom you're using and see if others using that rom have settings different from your own.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] LBJM:
It sounds like you received a bum combo (battery/case). Why not just exchange the ZL for another one at Amazon? They will give you a shipping label to send it back. I've taken my tpu case off quite a few times to access the microsd card and my case still fits tight.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] D3_:
That's what I'm doing, already started the process. Got my labels ready to print out to send it back. Just not sure if I want a new one straight away. With the 3 regular batteries I have now I like being able to use any case. I've got a UAG case on the way and depending on whether or not I like that I'll get another ZL.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
My case is a little loose about 2 inches down from the top on the right side but the rest of the phone is tight so its not a big deal yet and I have only taken the case off once

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] artur.r.f:
infinite battery life, as dreamed...
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] therockk:
Hey guys, Ive had this amazing battery for approximately 4-5 months now and loving every minute of it! I have the Note 2 N7100, with Hawkish Extreme | Perseus Kernel (Latest) | Undervolted CPU/GPU (WIth all the ROM's battery saving tweaks enabled). And i personally have gotten:

With No power saving and CPU/GPU Over-clocked to 2.00 Ghz| 800 Mhz + Screen brightness at MAX: - HEAVY USAGE

--> 15 Hours screen on time - 2 days until battery dead.

With Power saving ON and CPU/GPU at normal (1.6 Ghz | 533 Mhz) + Auto screen brightness - Moderate usage (When traveling etc)

---> 25 to 30 hours screen on time - 4 to 7 days until battery dead.

So those of you who are getting less than 12 hours of screen on time. It could be your battery is defective OR your ROM | Kernel combination is draining too much battery! With my stock battery i would get 1 entire day of heavy usage or 2-3 day of moderate usage. I have also modified my OtterBox Defender case and LOVE it! My battery was shipped to me with the "White" TPU case, and after 2 months of usage it turned UGLY YELLOW! - So when i finally got around to modifying the OtterBox it was a godsend! As i didn't have to put the phone in my pocket anymore! (OtterBox belt clip). Even without using the belt clip i would highly recommend anyone who has a spare OtterBox lying around to mod it and use with the ZeroLemon battery! its 100% worth it!

- My $0.02 Cents.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] timmyd463229:
I got 16 hours screen time but I guarantee if I didnt play so many games It would last 25 hours when I play the games I play it goes down pretty fast but when im just using it for internet or texting it doesn't barely move

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] GuitarJesus:
I just need to get myself one of these batteries! Having two jobs makes a pain in the b*** to make my phone last all day
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] sshafranko:
I put my stock battery in just to try for a couple days and the phone was soooo light. I couldnt even feel it in my pocket and when i took it out to use it i almost threw it out of my hand every time because it felt so light.lol I found myself looking for a charger halfway through the day and that night back in went the lemon. Never again....thanks lemon

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[Galaxy Note II Accessories] DraconianGothic:
Totally stock 4.1.2 BTU rom here, not rooted at this time. I am now on my third charge of the ZeroLemon battery.

Last night, i was at 10% remaining and had used 5 days 12 hours of standby and 10 hours of screen time.

For me, that is 3 times my standard battery life so it does do what it is meant to do.
[Galaxy Note II Accessories] ihavenewnike:
What is the beat ROM for battery. Trying to max this thing out