yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] Ryno301:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Search? What is this search thing that you speak of?

LoL I kid, I kid :cool:

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[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

I'm going to be typing precise instructions for everything in the first posts, just haven't had a chance to yet. Sorry for the delay guys. I do plan on laying things out step by step, I would rather have a question repeated and asked, then have someone ask me to help them fix something after they screwed up big time.

I won't be instructing with s off though, I will troubleshoot problems for users but I won't simplify or break down s off any more than it is already in the s off thread. This s off is very noob friendly which comes with downsides, and I don't believe everyone should have s off.

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[HTC Droid DNA] zippa713:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Couldn't agree more for the sake of the people that have helped me break the chains of corporate bondage!

Make sure you say the circle block goes in the circle hole and the square goes in the rectangular hole? Nevermind I never could figure out shapes and colors... Lol
[HTC Droid DNA] UrGuardian999:
You're a real social person aren't you? I kid I kid. Come on now, is this a better than thou art kind of post or what? This forum is here for developers of course but what are you developing for if not to share it with others. Sure a lot of things can be googled and searched through the forums [such as what S-Off is and how to achieve it] but when it comes to a specific ROM and such, the more clearer you are, the less frustration down the road answering the same question and trying to help others fix their sh*.....stuff.

I would have never have started messing with my phones a few years back and learning more and more as I go if it hadn't been for these forums and reading through instructions [and stupid questions], that's kind of how you learn and grow.

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Thank you for understanding. We're here to help others and hopefully prevent big screw ups.
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Well that's how I started out on here was by reading first and asking questions later (I usually could find my answers by searching on Google, then if I couldn't find it I checked the Q and A for answers and then I would go through the threads looking to see if other people would post up that question then and only then would I ask... But I guess what I meant in my previous post is that there are some people who just shouldn't be messing with stuff they don't know nothing about.

And for the record, I'm probably one of the nicer people on xda ;)

And I try to keep it that way :P
[HTC Droid DNA] devilsaces:
Cool, that would be very helpful for a lot of people. I always wanted to compile a very detailed step by step but I just don't have the time. With my OCD and being a perfectionist that would probably take me a few days, lol. Being an Architect/beginner computer programmer/father of 1yr. old twins, (amongst other things) time is very limited.

So I thank those of you, like CharlieTheMan, for dedicating their time.
[HTC Droid DNA] Pete02:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Hey guys, I read about someone having signal drop issues but I didn't see anything about him resolving it. My bro has a similar problem. His phone randomly loses all connectivity (data and phone signal) and he doesn't realise it till he checks it again. A reboot fixes it for him but he uses it for work and he can't just have it cut out when people are trying to reach him.

He's been running viper since the start but he hasn't noticed any of this till the last update 1.1.3. I've installed all his versions incrementally and flashed the boot.img every time. I even tried flashing the new radios but the problem is still there. He's only ever run stock or viper and I've never flashed any other kernels than the one that comes with viper. Any ideas?
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
When did you flash 1.1.3 and when did he start noticing the problem? Did you do wipes of dalvik cache and cache when flashing kernels and OTAs?
[HTC Droid DNA] Pete02:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Flashed 1.1.3 as soon as viper's ota said it was available and I'm not sure about wiping. I normally always wipe dalvik and cache but honestly I don't know if I did his between otas.

Edit: my bro says its a sim card error that comes up when he loses all connectivity.
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
Ahh, that's a known issue about the SIM card. Have him power down and remove it for 30 seconds. Put it back in and boot into recovery. Go to advanced and fix permissions then boot into Android. Profit ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] Pete02:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Thanks docnok63. I'm not sure how I missed that one but I'll get right on it.
[HTC Droid DNA] devilsaces:
I was about to say sounded like a sim card issue. Some people have found that actually flashing Viper fixes the problem. Knock on wood I haven't had the sim card problem since i've been on Viper. Others think its a hardware issue where the sim card is not sitting right. People have gotten replacements from verizon. Verizon believes its a hardware issue. I'll report back if I ever get the issue on ViperDNA.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
A friend of mine was having very similar problems several times a day. He pulled the sim card and cleaned it, and that solved his problem. He hasn't had the DNA very long so that kind of surprised me for a card that new, but now that he's had no signal drops in three days I'm starting to think he might have been right.

An eraser can work good to safely clean a sim card if you're gentle, keep the card flat on a solid desk to avoid any flexing. Afterwards blow off any eraser bits, and then wipe it down very good with a clean soft cloth such as a high quality screen cleaning cloth. A tiny drop of alcohol may help too at the very end, just let it dry completely and evaporate so you don't have the vapor evaporating inside the phone even though its a very tiny risk I prefer to keep the IC as free of any type of containment or corrosion as possible.
[HTC Droid DNA] zippa713:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

I had that issue even stock... Its totally random for me so I havnt had the issue lately... A switch to airplane mode and back fixes it for me... I even have had issues where it says no SIM, but that was on the super charged Rom... Which was also seemingly random... I just accept that nothing's perfect and wait for my next phone to be engineered lol
[HTC Droid DNA] GokaiSilver:
So I'm trying to straighten this out. Because I accepted the OTA I can't flash an r/w kernal in order to flash this rom? :confused:
[HTC Droid DNA] xhunter187:
Has anybody else gotten this Facebook update? Kinda curious about it. Says old app isn't compatible but Facebook still works. [URL=http://s787.beta.photobucket.com/user/Diablo_909/media/Screenshot_2013-03-06-19-11-26.png.html][/URL] [URL=http://s787.beta.photobucket.com/user/Diablo_909/media/Screenshot_2013-03-06-19-11-32.png.html][/URL]
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Was your bootloader unlocked before you took the ota? If it wasn't already unlockrd you can't flash anything
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

You don't need a r/w kernel to flash this ROM. But if you weren't already unlocked before you took the ota you can't root your device.
[HTC Droid DNA] GokaiSilver:
ok, thank you. I managed to unlock before I took the OTA and then managed root and S-off so that's all set (phew). I've never kernal swapped before, I'm coming from basic crack flashing on my razr maxx with safestrap (now based on twrp) so throwing in kernals is really throwing me for a loop. Even though the stock kernal is terribad on battery I can still use it then?
[HTC Droid DNA] NSammut:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Alright,I'm a bit confused on the firmware vs kernel vs Rom vs radios discussion of upgrading on ota. If I flashed radios separately and use a 2.04 Rom and kernal, dies this mean I'm up to date? Or does the ota also update something else? Thanks.

Edit: also I did the oldest version of supercid,and was never asked to do the ota update.
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Just make sure your kernel version and rom software version match up (1.15 kernel with a 1.15 rom for example) ... The big talk about the firmware is for the radios which improve signal quality for all of the radios like wifi 4g gps blah blah blah...
[HTC Droid DNA] NSammut:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Yeah,I'm using the 2.04 hakta supercharged and the stock 2.04 until nit releases his new version hopefully this week,thanks torrented
[HTC Droid DNA] KyJelly69:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Fyi, do not install chainfire 3d. Your phone will not boot after installing the driver.
[HTC Droid DNA] andyroidna:
since 1.2 will be 2.04 based, does that mean you have to update your phone first? i'm currently on viper 1.1.3, stock radio, s-off. will i have to update something before i was to flash the new 1.2 rom (when it comes out)?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

No, but flashing the upgraded radios won't hurt.
[HTC Droid DNA] andyroidna:
just the radio? i actually did flash the new radio a couple of weeks ago, but started experiencing a bunch of "no sim" errors that wouldn't go away until a couple of restarts. flashed back to the old radio and that problem has gone away.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

The sim errors have nothing to do with the radios. It was just a coincidence that it happened on the new radio for you.

But yea, just the radio. The vast majority of the changes are in the rom and kernel. Then the only other thing is the hboot version, but it isn't necessary.
[HTC Droid DNA] andyroidna:
oh, i see. hmm, might just try to flash the radio again then. is the battery life the same with the new radio? as for hboot, i havent messed with that. since you say it isnt necessary, i probably wont either lol
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
The idea with trying new radios is that the upgrade brings more efficiency. It's hard to say, a lot of people tend to comment to early on if battery life has improved or gotten worse, before they've even put the battery through a few cycles if they flashed a new rom or kernel at the same time. That, and signal strength and the network that we're on varys so much. So it's kind of a personal conclusion that has to be reached regarding new radios and battery life.

For me as a whole, my battery life improved with the new Viper that is 2.04 based, the new 2.04 stock kernel and the new radios.

Also to the guy that mentioned battery life being horrible on stock, I don't think this is always the case. With a custom kernel the potential is there to have much improved battery life, but that has a lot to do with custom setup based on your usage. For a vast number of people they actually see better battery life on the stock kernel until they start to learn their device and really get the kernel set up right.

The custom kernels are really headed in a good direction right now, the devs are bringing in some REALLY nice commits related to mpdecision IMO, and if a person was to spend some time customizing the right governor and underclocking the CPU some, they could have their phone much faster and responsive at like 1.2 max cpu freq.

Most people that I kind of guide through the kernel and setup process are wasting their battery on unnecessary processes like maps and GPS or social networking running in the background, and deleting those system apps, or freezing them with an app like titanium backup, will double their battery life. The key is to not lack any feature you need, and not waste resources on any feature you don't.
[HTC Droid DNA] RLGL:
I have sim errors and I also believe it is hardware related. On one occasion I went to remove and reinsert the sim. As I was attempting to push in on the release pin , the error cleared itself with out actually removing the card
[HTC Droid DNA] GokaiSilver:
I was spoiled by my motorola smart actions. I had them set to disable background data/gps/wifi when screen was off etc. Still trying to find my bearings on an HTC device. I'm sure that's a discussion for another topic, but again I'd like to reiterate the question that the OTA updated kernal does not need to be touched what so ever in order to have this functioning and not bricked? everyone seemed to be more concerned with telling me I wouldnt be able to unlock/root etc and I'm reading a lot of horror stories in the threads so Im a bit apprehensive and may just wait around for some more aosp developments:eek:
[HTC Droid DNA] UrGuardian999:
Don't know if this is or isn't directly because of Viper, but I had my phone turn off for no reason last night; and as most, I use the phone for an alarm so you can put two and two together on why that's a major problem.

The battery usage reset so I'm not sure when in the night it turned off, any way I can investigate further?
[HTC Droid DNA] yearn2burn:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

You shouldn't accept the entire ota update directly from Verizon before being s-off. As far as bricking, the main thing I've heard of is changing back to s-on with the engineering hboot or conceivably thermal damage with experimental kernels.

Otherwise, as long as you don't do anything to mess with your hboot or recovery, I don't think you should ever brick your phone (anyone correct me if I'm wrong). As far as compatibility, the new radio and new kernel work fine with old ROM, but new ROM doesn't work well with old kernel. But you can always fix with a flash.
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Or with S-off and an eng hboot flashing a bad boot.img or any file could brick the device (if it contained bad code)
[HTC Droid DNA] GokaiSilver:
I haven't really read up on engineering hboot flashing but as far as I can tell it doesn't really interest me at the moment. Anyone care to explain further what the benefits may be?
[HTC Droid DNA] leonguyen88:
I have used HTC rezound before. and expect this version - Droid DNA. But I don't know , can IT run on GSM network? Have any Custom ROM support it.

Sorry for bad english and I just newbie, please help!
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
yes it will run on gsm as long as it is on the supported bands, the DNA is an "unlocked/international" phone right out of the box... just pop in a sim card and it will work on any rom really...

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It doesn't check file signatures so it will allow you to flash anything to any partition without checking to make sure you don't screw it up.

It give you access to everything, including but not limited too, all of the fastboot commands like changing partition sizes and writing to the protected system.
[HTC Droid DNA] leonguyen88:
That's a good news. And I also hear, iphone 5 / verizon also - "unlocked/international" phone right out of the box - Is that right?
[HTC Droid DNA] GokaiSilver:
is the new ROM you're mentioning the version 1.2 that's around the corner? or the 1.1.3:o
[HTC Droid DNA] ThatFool:
So just to make sure I still have to flash boot.img if i am s-off that is okay right?
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

The reference is to the new 2.04 based rims, ViperDNA 1.1.3 is built on the old base but Viper 1.2 is rebased on the 2.04 update as are many other roms.

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[HTC Droid DNA] tomcat7165:
So.... I hear we may be getting 1.2 anytime now.... :-0

Any new info on that?

Thanks!:good:
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Well the main developer has put lots of hints out on the forums that its getting close. All I can say is that he's a pretty credible source, and his work ethic and dedication is admirable considering how much work he's put into this thing to have already reached pretty much final build stage this week, being as busy as he is in real life.

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[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Yea, nits said it should be out today, tomorrow at latest.
[HTC Droid DNA] Droidem:
1.2 is up 3 mins after you posted lol. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38948236&postcount=3393
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
No, not if you are s-off, you can just flash the rom.zip and kernel gets flash with it (as long as its supported by the dev which in ViperDNA's case it is)
[HTC Droid DNA] dagarnx:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

If I'm flashing the 1.2 from viper 1.1.3 with dsb's cubed kernal. Do I have to flash the return to stock kernal?
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Not if you're s off. If you're s on you need to extract the Rom zip on your desktop and flash the boot.img from inside.

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[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Second post updated with instructions on properly performing a clean install.

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[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

You probably need to. It can't hurt.
[HTC Droid DNA] jonah1234:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Is beta 4 and 1.2 the same?

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[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
if you are a verizon user...essentially yes....dont have to reflash in that case
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

For Verizon users yes beta 4 will work with OTA updates. But GSM changes were made.

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[HTC Droid DNA] pistolpete_21:
Radios?

Anyone have any suggestions as to which radio will work best with 1.2?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

The updated one.
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
+1 to what Charlie said, but for future reference: you don't need to flash the return to stock kernel because the modules you need are already built into the Viper ROM. By using Cubed kernel on any ROM, it alters/removes some of the stock 1.15 modules. Thus, when you change kernels, you have to flash the return to stock modules to get back to the 1.15 baseline before using another 1.15 kernel.

It's in the install notes, but ***DO NOT*** use the stock, stock writable, or any custom 1.15 kernels (including Cubed) on Viper v1.2 as it is based on 2.04.

You can find all versions here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38379254&postcount=19

Some users are reporting the 1.15 radios working better for them. Try the 2.04's and switch back to 1.15 if you notice them being worse than 1.15 for you. That's the beauty of being S_OFF. All our DNAs do not come off the assembly line exactly alike. For example, the bin tolerance is why some people can overclock more than others.
[HTC Droid DNA] pistolpete_21:
Is this packaged with the ROM or if not how do I install it?

*edit: just found it and came back to see that doc had updated his post with it. Thanks for the input. I'll try it out and see how my phone likes it.
[HTC Droid DNA] eleazar123:
hey guys, i have flashed 1.2 twice now, but the restore from google never works. it acts like it is, but when i open the play store (it shows i have 6 updates in the statusbar), it asks me to add an account or create a new one.

It obviously doesn't restore any apps or wifi networks either. :\

Any ideas? I tried flashing with rosie and desense, they both did the same thing.
[HTC Droid DNA] wisconsinated:
I'm getting symlink: some symlinks failed, and install fails everytime on 1.2. Is there something special I need to do to get this to install? I've factory wiped / wiped cache / wiped dalvik cache. I'm s-off.
[HTC Droid DNA] kc9bvl:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Can I install the latest 1.2 without Installing the Verizon OTA update? I am completely stock other than unlocked and s-off
[HTC Droid DNA] darkace:
Any suggestions for maximizing battery life during flashing? Like should I keep the phone plugged in? Make sure its at 100% before I flash? Charge it to 100% after flashing? Sorry for all the noob questions, just need great battery life haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

You don't need to install the ota.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

It's best to run a couple of full charge cycles after flashing the rom. So after you flash the rom let the battery drain until its dead and then when you plug it up to the charger leave it charging until fully charged.

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[HTC Droid DNA] darkace:
But would you suggest leaving the phone plugged in while flashing the new ROM?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

It really doesn't matter.
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
We were having problems with Google login during beta testing as well; especially if you use Google's 2-step verification After you log on to the Play Store, select My Apps and then swipe right. You will see all your installed applications. You'll need to manually install your apps. It's an inconvenience, but not a release-stopper.

It's kind of silly, but every time I install I wipe dalvik, factory, and system 3x each before launching the Aroma installer. If it fails, wipe them all 3x and try again. Aroma doesn't like our phone, just keep trying.

The OTA is 2.04 and is in this ROM.

Bud, you can't maximize battery life during installation. Always suggested to charge all the way up before installing, but not really necessary. Charge all the way up after install, though.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

Yeap these guys are right, a full charge is good but it doesn't matter if the phones connected or not connected. It's going to do what its going to do, running full charge cycles is my only suggestion and that doesn't extend battery life it simply might help battery reporting to be on track sooner.

The installation process won't increase battery life but doing things like disabling autorotation and GPS and Bluetooth, and uninstalling or freezing location based apps that you don't need or aren't using at the time.

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[HTC Droid DNA] darkace:
Thank you very much for the prompt replies all :)! One last question, since I'm changing kernels, is it recommended to wipe battery stats or anything like that? To be honest, I don't even know if that's an option in TWRP or not.
[HTC Droid DNA] dagarnx:
So we are 100% on this? Because in DSB's thread it said every time you change the kernal I had to do the back to stock kernal first since dsb removes certain files.
[HTC Droid DNA] CharliesTheMan:
Re: [INFO][FAQ]ViperDNA ROM Discussion

No need to worry with that just do a clean rom install

Kernel and radio information added to post 2

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[HTC Droid DNA] wisconsinated:
I'm going to have to flash a stock rom unfortunately. I have wiped 100 times and tried 20 times to flash it and it won't work, no matter how little or how many apps I try to install.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
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What won't work?
[HTC Droid DNA] eleazar123:
Thanks for the reply!

I actually don't mind not having my apps auto-install because I use Ti Backup, but wifi networks are another story. Is there any way to get it to restore data after I get past the initial setup? Or should I just give up?

Someone on IRC said they had the same issue and flashed again, the 2nd time it restored properly. (but I had no such luck, I wonder if it's because I'm choosing aosp MMS)