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[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
The difference is very simple.

Screen protector is used to prevent scratches - it's usually covered with oleophobic coating and made from harder materials to make it more scratch-resistant.

Anti-shatter film is applied using thermal methods after tempered glass is cut off. It's not nearly as hard as screen protectors, but is resistant to being cut, sliced or torn apart - it also absorbs tension and spreads it evenly. Also, since it's applied thermally, using special glue, it will hold pieces of the screen together even if it breaks. Normal screen protector won't do that, it'll just peel off. Dont believe ? Hit a car's side window with a hammer - it'll shatter into million pieces. Now do the same with the windshield - it'll break and bend in, but won't shatter.

I understand you might not like it - but please don't say that they're useless or silly. There is a reason why they put this film on car windshields, buildings' glass facades etc. It's not "just marketing", however you look at it.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Yea. The reason is those are situations where serious body harm can occur otherwise.

If I drop my phone and the screen shatters, #1 I won't put my hand into the shards #2 the phone is bin ready anyway.

The sheet is there for one reason and one alone: to stop people from tearing their fingers when the screen breaks and suing Sony.

No other phone manufacturer does this crap. It's because Sony assumes the worst from users, period.
[Xperia Z General] jameslfc5:
Is it only sony that use this protective film?
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
don't understand why you would remove it in the first place. Why mess with a perfectly fine (asthetically) phone. Just needed to add a screen protector on top and that is that. Not like the back is important like someone mentioned.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Samsung don't do it that's for sure. Apple neither.

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Because it's impossible to get a scratch resistant protector on perfectly, and even if you do it will always have fuzz underneath.

Nothing can top a naked screen.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Looking at how some people remove it right away, because they "dont like" screen protectors - i think Sony is right to assume that.

Had absolutely no problems here, so it is possible after all.

Not trying to convince anyone - just saying that in my opinion it's a good thing and it shouldn't be removed if there's no need to do so.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Check that wonderful screen out with an LED flashlight and you'll see how many specs you've got underneath.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Oh yes, i'll just do that, because you would normally use your phone with a LED flashlight above the screen... as long as i dont see it in normal condition - i couldn't care less mate :)
[Xperia Z General] Ariozo:
Sv: Don't remove the screenprotector on the back

+1

I don't want anything on my devices, should be pure material..:)

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[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Ignorance is bliss.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
So everyone has stuck their screen protectors that came with the phone directly on top of what appears to look like a screen protector (but is actually a shatter proof sheet?), that came pre applied to the phone already? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
The pre installed sheet of whatever you want to call it, isn't supposed to be removed. To the usual person they wouldn't and couldn't even tell there was an additional layer so I don't see why people want to fiddle with it in the first place. When you put your chosen or pre boxed screen protector it becomes a second line of defence if you will and provides some more additional protective properties. Later when an Oleophobic protector becomes available then that would be many peoples choice I believe, On top of the pre installed one. This will result in anti fingerprints with decent scratch restistance and a protective anti shatter layer which will be protecting the glass the way it should be.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
I took mine off. Clean display is best display.

Especially when it's as scratch resistant as GG2.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Yeah suppose it doesn't hurt, wouldn't dare of peeling the shatter proof one off. I was just wondering whether they were the 2 same protectors thats all. But I have already messed up the front one when trying to apply, stupid dust in the way so ended up blurring the whole thing. Got the back one on perfectly though (I'm a perfectionist), took ages! Need to buy some more now, anyone reccommend where? :)
[Xperia Z General] Renzo4000:
Just wondering, do you experience a better viewing of the display? Maybe less "greyness" and better viewing angles?
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
No, the viewing angles haven't improved, but the screen has IMO. Looks more vibrant. The protective sheet is thick as hell (even thicker than on my S) and I can imagine it would dampen colours.
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Im calling placebo. Until you have 2 XZ to compare side by side I think this is just the same as people saying how the bravia works or not on an unlocked bootloader.
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
yes the theme changes by removing the protective layer ..... :S
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I have a white one, no issue after removing screen protector ;)
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Good for you.

Carry on denying that a thick sheet of plastic will dampen a screen then. There's a reason why no other manufacturer puts this crap on their display (they want it to look its best).
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
for sure light will break a bit because of the sheet, i'm actually surprised that the viewing angles are no better.

But just wandering are you going to use a case? because I imagine it will break far more easier than without the sheets.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Yes, I have a case for outdoors, but I've never broken a phone all my life (knock on wood).

To the best of my knowledge the sheet is there for your protection from a shattered screen, not to prevent the screen from shattering. It's so you don't get splinters in your fingers and so forth.
[Xperia Z General] Paddiii:
After removing it, how are reflections, fingerprints etc?
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Don't remember about reflections but fingerprints are more visible. Though they were visible before and made the screen look smudged.
[Xperia Z General] moraal:
Guys thanks for the clarification, I see now that there is an actual difference between the two.

I didn't like the shatterproof sheet on my XS, it scratched easily, but the screen didn't have oleophobic coating, so I got stuck with it. Now with my XZ I guess I'll have to be more careful. The screen is beautiful I think and the viewing are not even an issue for me.
[Xperia Z General] argh2000:
Wonder if remove screen protector and overlap with liquid armor will help? Opinion?
[Xperia Z General] itsmemuffins:
Does the actual glass have oleophobic coating on it?

Or have Sony omitted it because they put on a preinstalled piece of plastic,on the glass?
[Xperia Z General] moraal:
No it doesn't unfortunately.
[Xperia Z General] itsmemuffins:
WOW :eek:

That's seriously effed up!! :(
[Xperia Z General] moraal:
The ASPL has though...
[Xperia Z General] spurs1959:
No i haven't got that at all even though i have removed the anti shatter film on the back as well. Try cleaning with nail polish remover, thats what i did and its as clean as anything.
[Xperia Z General] Jerry_Siu:
wanna ask a off topic question, anyone here remove the sheet at front? I saw some post said it will also remove the "Sony" brand, is it real?:(
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
I removed mine. The Sony logo was on the protector
[Xperia Z General] exmatproton:
removed the front one and really, no more dust and fingerprints! i love it. thinking of removing the back one as well :confused:
[Xperia Z General] amritbharadwaj:
Can anyone comment from Hong Kong? Are we getting Xperia Screen protectors in the Box?
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
So it has oleophobic coating? So no problems like with the XT after removing the protector?
[Xperia Z General] EG8196:
No, Hong Kong version does not come with a screen protector
[Xperia Z General] exmatproton:
Did not encounter 1 problem whatsoever. Back cover and the front cover (with the Sony logo printed in) are removed. No glue was there. No i have a black box... :p
[Xperia Z General] awtchan:
No. Couldn't find one.
[Xperia Z General] amritbharadwaj:
Finally got mine! White Xperia Z (including Dock White Colour) @ 5227 HK$

It's a beauty!
[Xperia Z General] Ariozo:
Same here, had no problem. Was just to clean it off like normal and no Glue. The Sony Logo did go tho, but that i dont care much for so had no problem with clean glass.
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
I dropped mine today and the back has some scratches. I installed the screen protector that came in the box with my Z when I first got it, but it affected the pictures, something to do with the flash light damaging the image so I took it off.

I am interested to find out if you can buy the back coating to replace the one that comes on the phone.
[Xperia Z General] Teknohtc:
Why do people take off the anti shatter film it's there for a reason lol I don't care what people do but, that film if you want to replace it is going to be a pain to find!
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
I didn't take off the anti shatter film, it's still on, and it's scratched lol. The included screen protector Sony decided to include in the box and intended to put on top of the anti shatter film destroyed my photos as it affected the light from the flash making the right side of pictures messed up so I took of the Extra screen protector.

**** up by sony there i'm afraid.
[Xperia Z General] Teknohtc:
order these i herd they are good!!

http://dx-box.com/imak-anti-fingerprint-layer-screen-protector-for-sony-xperia-z.html
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
Cheers i'll look into them :)
[Xperia Z General] biffsmash:
Word of warning, removing the back and front screen film/protectors from the factory do the following

Lose Sony from front

leave residue and oily fingerprint magnet on the back

Seems bending the phone even slightly when removing the protectors damage the speaker which now works only intermittently.

Rugged phone my bottom. This is being sold as soon as I've paid for the repair.
[Xperia Z General] mathen:
as its glass it wont damage even if you use glue remover
[Xperia Z General] dasprot:
Just removed my front cover without problems.

I cleaned it with a screen cleaning wipe and something to dry it afterwards.

It seems like the screens catches far less fingerprints and dust

The back cover will stay in place. Fingerprints on the back aren't that big of an issue for me.
[Xperia Z General] andyboo:
any tips on removing the front? i.e. what tool, position did you start from? I dont want to scratch the actual screen. Thanks in advance
[Xperia Z General] cordonbleu:
Just begin at any corner by using your fingernails. It may take a while before a piece big enough comes off to get good grip on to remove the whole thing. Same for the back. I removed both this way. It was very easy, no problems whatsoever. ;)
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
A needle works well. Just removed mine and my sony logo has gone, am gutted. Though the screen does seem a hella lot more crisp now, veiwing angles seen to be better too. Now, I need to clean my glass.

UPDATE:

So after feeling remorseful about losing my SONY logo, I found some Carex hand sanitiser and cleaned the screen with it using the little clotch you get bundled with the free screen protectors. My screen now looks super glossy, fingerprints DONT seem to be as big of a problem anymore!! (yippee! Lol). Also the screen appears to be more at your fingertips, if you get what I mean, looks asif theres no glass separating your fingertips and the lcd. Overall I'm happy and the phone does as look more sophisticated without the sony logo.
[Xperia Z General] abhisheklal04:
I had a look at the xperia at its one of the sony display shop.... it was lagging like hell ... seemed like running 4.0 instead on 4.1....:silly: didn't expected this ...kind of pathetic software optimisation.
[Xperia Z General] bucho2004:


If the xperia z was lagging as badly as u say a lot of owners including myself would be complaining. And there would be a lot more posts on xda regarding the issue.

There is is a very occasional stutter when menu swiping, but from my experience that could have something to do with the original sony wallpapers, nothing a minor software update can't fix

So please Stop trolling in screen protector post forum section
[Xperia Z General] dk_iceman:
and this is important in this tread ??

I just removed mine on the front, actually quiet easily.... much much better now.. in terms of feel and finger smudge

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are you kidding me...

Bending the phone... how did you remove it.. mine was pretty easy and just took a bit at a time... can't really se how it should affect the speakers
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Hmmm, fingerprints are harder to get on the screen, but theyre also harder to remove!! The feels alot more premium now though.

Gonna invest in some crystalusion liquid glass protection. Get a couple of sachets and coat the front back and sides!
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
Here's mine after one week . Still perfect.I'm always wearing it in separate pocket..

I won't be removing any of the stock protectors, but i'll invest in something for the front screen .
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
I do that to, unfortunately I had bought a new pair of pants and I failed to notice a small metallic logo clipped on the pocket now I have some scratches on the screen. When light falls on it at the right angle it is very visible, so I'm contemplating the removal of the front protector
[Xperia Z General] MafiaManV:
bummer :/
[Xperia Z General] Smartphoner:
Keep the sheets on!!

I never knew it had a protective sheet on the back too, anyways it's there for a reason. Anyway it's better to keep it there, that's y Sony made the logo on the sheet itself as it's part of the phone's design.

For that; i advice to protect these sheets by applying protectors over them to avoid getting scratched and they could be exchanged regularly to make the phone look new all the time!!
[Xperia Z General] bigbamboo5:
Why not remove the sheet and then add this... http://www.crystalusion.com/ :good:
[Xperia Z General] shadstheman90:
I removed the one from my Arc S about 1 year ago I keep my phone in my pocket with keys and coins , not one scratch on the screen :)
[Xperia Z General] Chillerhippie:
I've read 3 pages of this topic so far and I really can not be bothered to read any more of the arguments so heres my understanding and pro's and cons of removing the anti shatter layer.

Pro: removing the anti shatter layer improves the look and feel of the device.

Pro: removing it also lowers the chance of the screen actually becoming scratched since glass is much harder than plastic.

Con: by removing it you loose the SONY logo at the front (Xperia Z)

Con: once removed, your screen will collect fingerprints which are harder to remove because the glass underneath has not been coated with that anti oil / fingerprint stuff which I can not think what it's called right now.

Con: If you manage to break the glass, it will go everywhere rather than staying in place.

I think it is a real shame that Sony have tried to be different with the type of glass they use, they should leave it up to the user to decide on using a screen protector or not and concentrated on making it tougher more anti glare, scratch and fingerprint resistant compared to the competitors.

I have both the Note 2 and the Xperia Z and I used both phones for about 2 days before adding a screen protector to both of them.

The Xperia Z had tiny scratches on both sides from been in my pocket whereas the note 2 still looked like new.

Finally... for those of you who say it's impossible to fit a screen protector perfectly... Watch this:

youtube.com/watch?v=_oJX99p3kEc

I also use some lens cleaner and a microfibre cloth just to make sure I have removed all dust and oil from the screen 1st.

I've been fitting my screen protectors this way for ages now and NEVER caught any dust or bubbles or anything since!
[Xperia Z General] tomo100brt:
What about XPERIA logo and other text on front of device? Will they still be there after removing protector?
[Xperia Z General] Lyechee:
Yes, only the Sony logo is printed on the screen protector.
[Xperia Z General] GrahamT502:
Glue Remover

I did the same thing, but Loctite Glue Remover does the job. And I now have a nice new one on the back. Just because the old one was getting pretty bad lol :)

G
[Xperia Z General] ngvuanh:
IMO, I just don't understand why people want to remove original screen protector and then apply a different one.

Any benefit by doing that? What I can see the stock protector is really perfectly fit.
[Xperia Z General] ~iPod~nano~:
Almost all Xperia Z include a nice screen protector in box, but not all. Me for example, doesn't get free screen protector from the box...
[Xperia Z General] hebbe:
maybe because the original screen protectors are cheap crap and will scratch easily.
[Xperia Z General] ngvuanh:
Imo, it's way better than other screen protectors I have used and all screen protector would have scratch easily.
[Xperia Z General] mety333:
Does removing the front screen protecter have any effect on the water proof capabilities?

Sent from my beautiful purple best friend, the Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] shook187:
I'm sorry but i've came to the conclusion that people on XDA are just idiots. Why in god's green earth would someone even attempt to remove a OEM screen protector? I mean if the screen protector had a bubble or lint, I understand but the screen protector is so perfectly put on, we have absolutely no reason to remove it.
[Xperia Z General] Sc00p007:
Im sorry but I've came to the conclusion that you are an idiot. Why in God's green earth have you not realised the answer to your question (presuming You have spent five minutes researching)?

Phil.
[Xperia Z General] shook187:
I refuse to get into an argument with a apparent idiot who removed his screen protector.

I read the pros and cons and the con definitely outweighs the pro.

Okay moving right along I won't be reading this thread any longer.
[Xperia Z General] cordonbleu:
You must be joking. Screen looks and feels way better without that awful plastic sheet which only attracts fingerprints and lint.
[Xperia Z General] ngvuanh:
...and if you remove and leave your Z bare glass, it is fine.

But I saw many people removed it and got another whatever screen protector for them.

That's just look weird move to me.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
For a zillionth time - it is not OEM screen protector. It is ANTI-SHATTER Film. You can apply screen protector over it.

And ease-up on comments like tihs "idiots" and so on...
[Xperia Z General] ronald_sugar7:
Xperia logo printed on the back film?

ONLY FOR THE ONES WHO REMOVED THE BACK FILM

Ok, I really dont want to remove the back film, but It has a hell lot of scratches, and I just can't stand them, I've seen comments saying that the XPERIA logo is printed on the film and others saying its not, so could you pls answer with the week of manufacture (printed on the bottom of the phone) if the xperia logo was printed or not in the film, thanks!
[Xperia Z General] LXiR:
Black Xperia Z, manufactured 13w10, logo wasn't printed in the film
[Xperia Z General] whitefang3456:
I have dy teared off My BAck ASF, everything is there even Xperia Logo O.o and i never met any issue of glues issue...just easy to peel to be honest.

whitefang
[Xperia Z General] dzieciol:
What about front 'sticker', is there any problems with removing it? Glue issues etc. I suppose that its the same as in the back. Am I right?
[Xperia Z General] whitefang3456:
Front asf will remove SONY logo unfortunately. I dont have any glue residue left after removed it too. Forgot to say, mine is black edition Z.

Whitefang
[Xperia Z General] ronald_sugar7:
Could you pls tell me what is the manufacture week? (and just to confirm, xperia logo was printed on the film and therefore it was removed, right?)
[Xperia Z General] whitefang3456:
13W8. Xperia logo at the back still there.it's beneath the glass.I confirmed.

Whitefang
[Xperia Z General] ronald_sugar7:
Thanks for the ones that replied, mine is 13w39, can someone with a recent week has removed it and kept the xperia logo on the back?

thanks!
[Xperia Z General] theskig:
My back is scratched but I don't want to remove the protection it since I'll sell it!
[Xperia Z General] ronald_sugar7:
Guys?

No one?
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
The Xperia logo on the back remains on all Xperia Z's after removing the ASF,period.

Mine is 13w06 and no glue issue after removing
[Xperia Z General] soldiers33:
Mine is 13w14. Not sure whether it would be on phone or sticker? I wont be removing it now either way, but would be nice to know for future.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
The sony logo on the front is a sticker,all other logos are implemented in the glass..

Today i shattered my back glass in one fall on concrete without the ASF :/
[Xperia Z General] MarkG1408:
Hey.

I had both the Black & White versions of the Z.

I removed both shaterproof protectors on both versions. I noticed this only happened on the White device, and the black stayed like normal

So I wouldn't worry about removing it on the black ones :)!
[Xperia Z General] nb31b:
Not if you use the masking tape hinge method in a steam filled bathroom...
[Xperia Z General] MARKOZD15:
This happened to me too. I just removed it with acetone (that crap that cleans women nails) and it's now perfect, it's really easy to remove.

I bought Xtremeguard and and I applied it on the back and everything is great now!

Sorry for bad English
[Xperia Z General] Admiral AnimE:
I removed front and back. The difference is, front loses logo, back has more glue to clean. My phone is white, so apparently now the reflections on the back are blue and purple, not just clean white.
[Xperia Z General] ronald_sugar7:
Because it doesn't protect from scratches, tho you have a point at shattering, The scratches on the back of my phone are really awful and I think another anti shatter film could do a better job and if it gets scratches you can replace it
[Xperia Z General] F4113n:
Haha i didn't even noticed it before. Boy it is glued there alright. Haven't bothered me tho. Used this phone almost a year now. How did you even got that away. My fingernails are not for that anyway :)

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[Xperia Z General] brnteam:
I had the same problem
[Xperia Z General] zviki:
I cleaned with alcohol, what's left is gone by itself
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] destroyer1362:
Bought a phone with MeanBean 3.06 already installed. Will Sprint be able to activate it with this rom running or will I have to take it back to stock, activate it, then re-install MeanBean?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] cruise350:
Yes, they can activate it with no problem. Call them on the phone or take it to a Sprint store.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Nooblube:
Call i wouldnt bring it in with meanbean on it.. Everyone says sprint dont care but some but i kno some do cause i brought mine in before and it was rooted and they was all bent outa shape about it.. Save your self the BS and call :good:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] destroyer1362:
Awesome thanks guys.

I agree, I'll call sprint, what they don't know wont hurt them lol
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tehshishi:
Hi guys,

i have a problem, i don't get how to root and install a custom rom on my TF300T

spec:

The device is European

The device is unlocked with the asus software

Asus Transformer Pad TF300T

Android 4.1.1

Build n. JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.2.20-20121228

if i install a custom rom or root my device i can remove asus app? like tegra,supernote,vibe and stuff?

thank for help !!!!!