yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
When I get a free WiFi hotspot without requiring a webpage acknowledgemen5, I will do that.

First I will install the file manager. Can't I run .apk files from it?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
You should be able to, just select them and install them. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I installed some apps for now. If I make a backup and later restore over another ROM, will the backup include my apps?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yessir, it should. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Good. I want to try DPRom just for comparison. I may have questions that you may be able to answer.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It's a good one! ;) He strives for new and unique features. I just go for overall stability. I like his wifi icon and his ability to keep the wifi turned on. The only problem I've seen users have is actually getting the wifi to turn off lol.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
If I have a problem flashing his .img files, how will I be able to boot into recovery?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Return to stock lol. You can't boot into recovery outside of a booted rom, only fastboot.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Good to know. I need to check the WiFi on your ROM before I try DPRom. How often do you upgrade your ROM?

ClearD can you get Clocksync to work using WiFi?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Don't know what clocksync is, so I dunno. I update fairly regularly, right now I'm working on some images for it, as well as potentially a new kernel from bdaman80. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Clocksync is in the play store. It access servers and sets your clock to the internet(GPS?) time. Could you try it our, as I will attempt to get it working today.

Any update within days? If not I may get to DPRom. Can you add a recovery button with the shutdown?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'll see what I can do, but it isn't as easy as it sounds. :p

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Which task, getting clocksync to work on WiFi or a recovery button?

I was not able to get clocksync to work on WiFi, perhaps you will be able to do it.

I will try to flash the other ROM tomorrow.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
The recovery button lol.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
all right I understand. I flasdhed DPRom, but has some problems with apps causing rebooting, so I erstore back to yours. On your next update, could you please space out the apps similar to DPRom, for it is easier to press the icons?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I keep hitting wrong buttons on my phone. If you're just looking for an app launcher, double press the power button and open zeam, then the app drawer. My rom isn't meant to use the stock app drawer. :p

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I will try that. Any way to produce a settings menu similar to stock Android without the exercise settings?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It would require an additional Settings.apk, of which I don't think the framework can handle two at the same time. At least, that's my understanding of it.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
DPRom seemed to have a more traditional one, unless I am mistaken. Where do I load custom wallpapers?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
He has edited the stock settings.apk I believe. :)

The gallery should allow you to load wallpapers. Gallery3D.apk from any android 2.3.5 version of cyanogenmod should work.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Shelving the motoactv clock sync for now.

What should i use for a web browser that will work under the stock launcher?

Where do I load the files for themes?

I want to learn to alter/make clockfaces. Assuming the theme is independent of the face, how do I change the.xml code to remove the exercise fields and color, and retain the calendar data without a timeout? This is your ROM's clockface.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Yeah yeah there's a smartwatch section now! Just posting to say I've had my Motoactv for a little over a year now and I LOVE it. Who'd a thunk I'd be able to watch movies, browse the internet, take notes and play Pokemon or even Final Fantasy 7 on a watch?? It's just nuts all of the things this thing can do, still haven't seen a smartwatch this powerful to date.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
All of this would need to be edited in the Rom itself, then reflashed. I'm not yet sure how to do it, but there's a watch face thread here to get you started! :)

Welcome back, speedy! Glad you found this forum! :)
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Thanks! It took me a little while to spot it, but AHA, I found it!
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD let me know when are able to able to make thoses mods.

I will post in the faces thread and see if I can learn what needs to be done.
[Other SmartWatches] dragon_76:
I've had my MotoActv for almost 2 years. With all radios off and the shake to wake feature off, if you check your watch about once an hour on average, like most people would, you will get about a day's worth of use. The point of any device is to use it. I don't know where the weeklong numbers come from unless there are newer kernels with lower clocks than what I have installed. If you use it for anything at all besides music, you will get about 4-5 hours out of it, which is perfectly fine for its originally intended purpose.

The screen resolution is too small for web browsing, not sure why so many of you are hopped up on that idea. It's barely large enough to play Angry Birds or Zookeeper. It is very good for Google Maps if you use the caching feature, the GPS works amazingly well. Regardless of input method, the size of the screen and fact that it is a watch, text input is very slow.

It is a fun device, but it is very limited by practicality (screen size is tiny, battery is short).
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Mine lasts a week or more. Turn it off at night. ;)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
The reason I asked for a web browser is that certain free WiFi hotspots require web sign in or acknowledgement.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I think your battery is screwed. I can easily get two days out of it with more than just checking the time once an hour. There would be some note taking and a bit of games played (usually Pokemon on a GBC emulator), or reading incoming texts. If I do what you were doing, everything off just checking time once an hour I get about 4 days.

What are you talking about? It's entirely possible to browse the web on here. Yeah lots of scrolling/zooming, but it's not impossible or even frustrating. Same with typing. I wouldn't want to write a novel but it works fine for inputting text. In fact I started writing a short story on my mine just to say I wrote a short story on a watch.

I use Boat browser mini. Not the fastest, but it works great otherwise.
[Other SmartWatches] brakke97:
Cyanogenmod?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Thanks. Any other browser suggestions?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Lol no. We do have a basic aosp build from dproldan though. Check it out in the first post.

I think most people use boat browser. You'll want something that isn't resource heavy, as your internal storage space is limited. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I will find and install that browser. I have notice that i cannot charge from the USB cable via laptop. Also I seem

to have response problems while charging or after a USB transfer. Is there something I am doing incorrectly? BTW I have gotten Clocksync to work via WiFi on my note 2.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Cool! :)

I'm not sure about the charging issues... I use my laptop to charge mine all the time. Do you have the drivers installed there?

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I must because I just transferred boot mini browser and got it installed. Will the watch not charge if adb is running while connected.

Will still have to get connected via WiFi and get clocksync to work.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It should, as mine does. Did you try it both with the watch turned on and with it turned off? And adb drivers are not the same as the actv drivers lol. Do you have motocast installed?

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD, motocast was installed a while ago. It has to be running to facilitate charging, versus just having motohelperservice and motohelperagent running?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Can't remember. It shouldn't need any of it, but I figured I'd suggest it just in case. Does it charge with the unit turned off?

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD if it does it is slower than on the AC outlet.

Is there any way to turn off WiFi from the app besides a reboot?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Depends on which Rom you're using. In mine, just double tap the power button, select Zeam launcher, place a Power Control Widget on the home screen, and tap the wifi toggle. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I will try that although I default to the stock launcher and have not found the setting to change it. Maybe on your next update you can see if that could be enabled in the WIFi app?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
There's not one, and now you only have access to the stock launcher. You'll need to wipe your data and re-flash the rom to enable it again, then never ever set a default anything lol. It ruins the possibility of using anything else. :)
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
"Clear defaults" in manage apps > [launcher]? That's what I do when I want to use the stock moto launcher again for whatever reason. Rather than selecting launcher pro every time I press home 99% of the time =P
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
He can only access the stock launcher though, and I don't think he has access to that setting, from what I understand :(

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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Derp, I knew I had to have missed something. I'll butt out now >_>
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Lol no worries, you have the correct setting though!

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Sorry for the delay, ClearD. I was able to use the boat browser to connect to Starbucks WiFi and login to google. I am having problem with su accepting Clocksync. It ssys sometines I am not rooted. Anytbing I can do to fix this?

I can get to the zema launcher just not default to it on music button press.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Use the root tool and run the "Root" button only. :) If you're using certain rom versions, root is sort of messed up. A simple re-root fixes it all.

If the problem is the actual SuperUser app itself, and root is working, make sure that you open superuser, go to settings, and make sure the default action is set to "accept". :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I am using your ROM and SU is there and asking for permissions. Should I run the root tool anyway?

I did set the parameter to "accept".

ClearD I have a new problem. I was in recovery to mske a backup. I was in advanced to clear cache and accidentally hit the key test. I am now stuck, how do I recovery shortt of letting the battery drain to zeto?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Hold Start + Power for about 10 seconds and it will "Hard Shutdown" your device. :) If Superuser is granting permissions after you set it to accept, it should be fine. If it is denying permissions, then you should re-root just in case. Either way, re-rooting won't hurt anything.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD watch died after about 2 hours so I did not try your suggestion. I did reroot so tomorrow I will see if I can get clocksync to have superuser privileges. Also I can now charge from the USB port.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Excellent! :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD if this works out, I want to start on watchfaces mods. Do you now know where the stock backgrounds and watchface .xml files live?

After that I need to understand more sbout the launchers.
[Other SmartWatches] DexterMichigan:
I was wondering if anyone help tell me a simple way to download audio books on tape to my motoactv without rooting it and using a custom rom?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Why can't you transfer the files after loading the drivers and transferring the files via USB?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I have problems getting the network time on Amtrak snd Cosi WiFi. I was able to on a generic hotspot. Is there a way to fix this, or is tbis a signal strength /dropout issue?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I think they might be in the /system/clockfaces, but I'm not 100% positive. At least it's a good place to start. :)

This one, I'm not sure. I've never used either one. :(
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I cannot find /system/clockfaces. I am using the free ES file manager. Do I need an addon for root?
[Other SmartWatches] Fabrielo:
@ClearD just wondering..(im noob so dont laugh please) .. Would it even be posible to make the motoactv similar to that imwatch.it smart watch? also.. how do i disable the auto turn on screen whenever i move my wrist fast.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
To disable the motion touch the time display screen. Scroll down to the last entry wake device. Select it and uncheck the box.

Why do you want to emulate the im watch when you can have a full android OS on this watch?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I finally got ES file manager to display the system files. How can I change the contrast on those settings preferences menus? Also I do nlt understand the clock file .pngs. They are only background pictures?
[Other SmartWatches] dragilla:
Hi,

I just got my Motoactv recently and I really like it - even with the stock rom and unrooted it's great. I'm running and cycling with - but I do have things I'd like to tweak a bit ;) So I think I'll root it soon.

Do you think when I root it I'll be able to install some app that would keep the screen turned on all the time (dimmed)? I'd love to use this device as an everyday watch without waking it up every time I wanna check the time. I think the battery would survive one day this way (paired with a phone).

I've used metawatch so far and it was really cool, except very limitted and had some connectivity issues, also slow. But it did basically what I'd expect from a smartwatch - showed notifications from the phone (once I read them on the phone the notifications disapeared on the watch) + it showed the time.

And the screen stayed on for the whole time.

I would love if my moto could do the same + the workout stuff (callories, gps, music, etc)

Any idea how it could be done?

Thanks,
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
The motoactv has a display timeout option in the stock moto settings. Also, an app called "rootdim" can turn off the backlight completely to save battery power. Of course you need to be in a light room or outside to see it then. I left my screen on for an hour this way with not so bad battery drain.(can't remember how much) I did have a live wallpaper running though, so if you choose a static background image it would be better.
[Other SmartWatches] dragilla:
The option is there but it's only limitted to 30 minutes. Anyways rootdim seems nice. This + say something like keepscreen maybe should work fine together... will test it as sonn as I have time to root my device :)

Thanks a lot!

I also wonder how endomondo will perform on it when out of wifi range... TBD I guess...
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I was stuck and could not turn off the watch. The battery lasted about 2 hours. Maybe dimmed enough of the time it might last a whole day?
[Other SmartWatches] dragilla:
Ok. Time for some dump questions, forgive me....

I rooted my device and trying to install some apps on it.

Firsly I tried endomondo pro (using motoactv easy modder):

APK File Name: endomondo.apk
Waiting for Device
3071 KB/s (7782465 bytes in 2.474s)
pkg: /data/local/tmp/endomondo.apk
Failure [INSTALL_FAILED_MISSING_SHARED_LIBRARY]
Press any key to continue . . .

Must I install gapps first? If so, how? It's a zip with more less .deb structure inside it at first glance.

edit: Think I found my answer... CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY :)

edi2: I cant use rootdim :( It asks for root permissions and there is no button to say "ok". Maybe it does fit on the screen or something. Even tho I checked allowed as default action (automatic response) in Superuser.

Any idea how to do this?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
This may help. Unistall rootdim and make sure that Su is set to allow without prompting. Then reinstall rootdim and see if it works.
[Other SmartWatches] dragilla:
Not really :( Only I notices the RootDim appeared on the app list in the Superuser app. It was denied, but when I clicked on "cracked" droid icon on the bottom-left it changed to allowed. The default policy is allow. I reainstalled rootdim twice with it on and the result is the same :(

I even tried running it through abd shell, su, am start -n mobi.pruss.superdim/.SuperDim

Also tried am start su -c.... always the same... hm

edit: now I turned on notifications back... and I noticed that the message is "rootdim has been granted superuser permissions". But this is just a message in a balloon that disappears and the box appears "Need root privileges". weird...

edit2: ok, I've installed ScreenDim + Keep Screen On = Works ok. Screen is dimmed and does not switch off. Now I need to figure out how to increase the brightness of the screen when I actually do something on it - the way it is now is ok, for checking the time, but nothing else really :)

Or maybe there is a way I could assign the vol up / vol down buttons to screen brightness?

edit3: ok, button savior added the feature I needed. Now when I touch the screen it wakes, but never switches off... dimming to maximum level instead - just as I wanted :)

edit4: it's not working for reason... it only happened once :( probably due to some bug, so I'm still searching for a solution, just not today, time for some sleep :(
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
In what way, like the Rom? I don't think we have an I'm watch rom yet, or dump or anything. If we got one, *maybe*. But I can't make any promises.

I honestly have no idea, I've not played with the clock faces too much yet.

And for some reason, my XDA premium app isn't working. Hasn't worked for a few days now. It's just showing 0 topics in all areas.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'd like to see some I'm apps or the launcher running on our watch, personally lol.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I own an I'M watch but done have little with it.

Do you know where the crosshatching background is for the main screens and how you can replace it?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
On the actv the background is in launcher2.apk, and you have to decompile it, change the image, then recompile it. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD can you walk me throught the steps as to how to do that? Launcher2.apk is found in the play store? How do I decompile it using windows?

Presumably it is straightforward to change the background. Then how do I create the .apk file for instsllation?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
No, not at all. Launcher2.apk is in the /system/app folder of the rom you're using. You'll need adb access to pull the file, or a root file manager to copy it to sd so that you can transfer it to your pc to modify.

When you have the file, decompile it using APK manager, then find the background image in the output folder that it generates. Once you change the image, recompile it using APK manager, then create a flashable zip of the file, sign it with zip signer, then flash it to your device through clockworkmod.

In essence, no, it isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is lol. But those are the steps. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD you nean this one:http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=695701

You also helped me understand why I cannot see all of my file in Windows.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
That'll work. I have that one and also version 5. And indeed, your pc can only see the sdcard partition, not any of the internal ones like the system or boot partitions. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I found a copy. What do I need to do to get it working, besides maybe changing all of the file permissions?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I could never get it to work by pushing it with adb, so if you've got it modified already, the next step is to make sure you still have the original copy in case you need to push it back lol. Take the file structure from my rom zip and delete everything but the updater script and update binary, then edit the script so that it doesn't format anything and instead only flashes /system. That's all you need it to so, no wiping or anything. Then take your new APK and create the folder "system" back in the flashable zip you're making, then inside that, create the folder "app" and place your new Launcher2.apk inside it. Then once you're done, with 2 folders in the root of the zip, one containing a few more folders eventually leading to the updater script and update binary and the other containing /system/app/Launcher2.apk, all you need to do is use the android zip signer to sign the zip file and you're ready to flash it. Before you do, show it here if you can, so I can make sure it looks right before you try to flash it, if you don't mind. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I was referring to trying to get APK manger working under Windows. I need to install android SDK or place adb files in the same directory? If it executes I need to follow your instructions several posts back. I can post the .zip file here.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Ohh, just extract the zip on your desktop. There's no installation. Just run the batch file to start it. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD apk manager worked as you said. I could not see the background .png file. I will have to try to be more clear (no pun).

For the motoactv screens(not the android desktops), such as the clockface, is that executed by launcher2, launcher or other .apk file?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Launcher2.apk has the actv background in it. I'm not sure of the file name though, it isn't simply "background", so you'll need to be able to thumbnail view the files to easily find it. When making your new one, make sure it's exactly the same size as the original, I think it's like 176x220 pixels or something.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I will look more carefully when I have the time, as well as make some other image changes.
[Other SmartWatches] swapnildixit3:
:confused::confused::confused:
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
...Yes?

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[Other SmartWatches] mr.e.ferran:
Does anybody happen to know where I can purchase a new LCD screen? I got one of these off of eBay and it was damaged while being shipped. The seller is being a douche and I just want to fix it. He even rooted it so when I received it I couldn't connect to a computer because he never stopped the adb connection from returning to stock
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I made some .png changes and then compiled, zipped and signed the file. You wanted to look at it before I flashed it. It is ~14MB too large to upload, so how do I get it to you? Should I have used the system option?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yes, launcher2.apk is a system file, go back and re-compile it, but do not sign it. :)

If you've got it all done, I was just curious about what your new background will look like, I think. Care to post it? :D

Best bet? Probably from a non-working unit. :(
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD compile, zip and do not sign, or just compile?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Compile as system app (when it asks), then zip, and sign. :)

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