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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I did not get that. It took hours just to get the light on and state the chsrge was zero.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Make sure when it does that, that you're charging it again from a wall charger or car charger.

The charger on your computer USB will not work the same.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
That's what I did, but no response at all when plugging it in the wall..no screen on, no white light, nothing when I pushed the power button. To get it to respond again I had to press some weird fastboot button combo. By weird I mean a random combo, which wasn't the right combo it should have been (vol down and power). Sometimes it was start and power, sometimes it was start, music and power, and a couple other ones. I would just try all sorts till the fastboot popped up telling me the batt was too low, and only then would it respond when I plugged it into the wall charger.

I dunno, I just won't overclock it =P
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
That's odd... were you on a booting rom when it happened? Maybe it needed a return to stock with a factory cable first?
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Yeah, it would boot right back up after I got a charge in it. Until it did it again, and I'd have to repeat the process.

It was VERY odd. I know that this thing needs the software properly booting because of the way the charge circuit is designed, so I absolutely freaked out when I plugged it in and got no response. In fact that first time I left it plugged in all night. When I woke up and it still wouldn't do squat I thought I was left with a bricked Motoactv, and I was already thinking of buying a new one to replace it. Then for some reason I decided to try button combos, and here I am with a working watch again.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
So far no unexpected discharge rates.

I had to switch to win 7. I can charge but not run adb. ClearD, what do I need to install to be allowed to run adb commands?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
The insecure boot image. Or just the one button root, if you're running the latest root tool (2.0.1). Either one. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I do not understand. I am running your previous ROM version and am rooted, so what did I do incorrectly. I was able to use ADB on the XP machine with the watch running this OS.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
In that case, just reboot the actv. You've probably shut adb off to use USB mode and forgot to reboot to turn it back on lol.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD rebooted connected via USB and tried to run adb. I got the error: device not found. Is there a adb driver I need fot win 7?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Open the new root tool and select the adb command prompt button, it has the drivers. However, if you're getting that message, your driver's are fine. Try reinstalling the insecure boot image again, it may be corrupt or something like that.

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[Other SmartWatches] pmcnano:
Hello ClearD, I think we exchanged a couple of posts a while back.

I got an 8GB MotoACTV which is dead. In the past I tried to revive it, after checking out the front page post in XDA I came here and saw a lot of changes. Im wondering if something big has changed that may revive my ACTV.

I dont expect you to remember but here it is. I rooted my motoactv and updated it via and update.zip (as far as i remember?). It was working great until it just restarted itself then got stuck in M logo. I tried everything, I even made a Motorola Factory Cable (because I couldnt charge it anymore) tried flashing everything via fastboot and nothing worked. It always stayed at the "M" logo.

Thanks,

Paul
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Have you tried returning to stock with the latest root tool with your factory cable? Once back to stock, make sure to charge it with a wall or car charger. And as posted by speedyink, it may take some random button combinations as well.

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[Other SmartWatches] pmcnano:
I will try again just to give up to date data. But I tried everything last time. I will let you know later

edit: I downloaded the root tool and flashed "return to stock". After the flashes, it restarted and its on M logo. Running of the Factory Cable. Doesnt seem to go through, also I forgot to mention, when its on it overheats. (off a factory cable or a charger)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I have an older version of the H ROM. what do I flash using the image sw? If tbat does work what then since I cannot do USB transfers?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Hold start + power for around 7 seconds to force shutdown, then once it settles down, plug into a car charger or wall charger and see if it turns on by itself. If you get the white light to turn on, it's charging. If the white light is on, let it sit. It could take a while. Otherwise, your unit may be bad. Motorola may fix it for you if you send it in, since it's now on the stock firmware again and not rooted. ;)

Easiest solution would be to just wipe and flash the latest, if you're ever planning on updating at all lol. The 1.1.8 test version 4 should be even better than the 1.1.7 version, but I'm still awaiting feedback to prove it.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD let me know when your newest version can be flashed. I had problems with your latest root tool retaining tbe subdirectory after it completed.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
What do you mean? It's set to delete its files after running so it doesn't clutter your screen with junk. It should leave the IMG folder behind if you make a backup, and possibly the adb files behind if the service isn't killed before it stops running.

Latest is in the rom thread, last page, 3rd post back. :) give it a shot.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I will download the tool today. You are recommending I use it to reflash your 1.1.7H ROM or just the insecure boot image from that ROM? I will not be able to get to it until Sunday at the earliest.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Download the root tool, then press the button in the tool that says "Flash Boot Image (No Root)". That will flash the boot image you need and enable ADB for you again.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
That's because some of the files are still running as processes. Reboot and delete said directory.

Does your motoactv show up in my computer as a disk drive? USB debugging may have been turned off somehow. Make a shortcut with anycut or something to androids original developers settings to check, or just reflash the modified boot image with the root tool like ClearD suggested.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Had sone spare time. Downloaded the tool hit the flash boot image and put the phone in download mode. It said waiting for device and hung.

ClearD are there some Win 7 processes I need to delete before another try?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Try rebooting your computer, or even better, try a different computer altogether. And to answer your question, no, I'm using win 7 on mine too. :) 64 bit, even.

Antivirus or firewall issue?

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I rebooted before trying the flashing. I can try again when I have time. Any other suggessions?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Turn off any antivirus you have, prior to download of the tool. I'm using antivir on my machine, and it detects something in the root tool and won't always let it work. Make sure it's off before you start.

As always, there's nothing bad in there. I think it might be detecting the superuser app itself.

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[Other SmartWatches] ewoks:
similar devices

Is this product discontinued or I am wrong? Is there something similar runing striped Android with GPS and BT, music player and reasonable price or it pays of to buy some small cheap real android phone for exercise tracking and music. 10q and sorry for small offtopic..
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
It's discontinued but you can still buy it and we are still working on it. Check ebay, amazon, etc. There are plenty out there.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD rebooted and no antivirus running. Flash boot image hangs. No response for adb off usb on.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Do you have motocast installed on the computer? If not, install that. Flash boot requires it to be in fastboot (obviously, as the instructions dictate), so I assume you've got the actv in the correct mode. It might be a driver issue, hence my motocast question. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD can I just install tbe motocast drivers and not the main software?
[Other SmartWatches] ewoks:
10q for answer.. Is it 200++ dollars/euros too expensive for this kinda gadget or I am missing something important here..? Btw is there some retail store in EU which sell not used devices?! thanks again ..
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I paid $250 for mine, but that was when it was new. Demand now is even higher than it was then. Amazon has them new, I'm sure.

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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Yep

http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-MOTO...=UTF8&qid=1370141202&sr=8-1&keywords=motoactv

I paid $230 for mine about a year and a half ago. Totally worth it.
[Other SmartWatches] Negakinu:
I paid about $160 for mine on Amazon.com. NOS. Packaging was still sealed and everything stock. I really want to like the little gadget but I haven't yet come up with a suitable function for it. :) GPS works nicely though and I really like walking around running CoPilot on it. True wristsize navigation is pretty futuristic when you think about it. Still, anyone any pointers? What is everyone using their MotoACTV for? I need a little inspiration.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I use mine for a watch. Lmao.

Most creative use I've seen so far? Undercover wardriving.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Mine is basically used as a watch.

ClearD installing Motocast seem to fix the lack of adb drivers. I am back to wear I was before. I still am having problems woth the turning off of WiFi via a power widget. Can you and your ROM partner track down if it is the widget or the WiFi manager. Also I cannot get a launcher to be defaulted, how can I fix that?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Are you using the power control widget or one of the wifi manager widgets?

And if you set a launcher to default, you may not be able to access the other launcher at all anymore. That's a bad idea all around. Just double tap power to switch launchers. If you accidentally set one as default, you'll need to un set it somehow, but I can't remember how. The only way I know for sure is to full wipe and reinstall the rom.

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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I use mine as a watch (clock, calender widget is handy)

for note taking (grocery lists, reminders, keeping track of spending)

For Caller ID and Texts (really handy at work)

It's my main music player on the go, so I installed Poweramp to make it sound better

As a Calculator if I need to do a quick calculation.

I play Gameboy games like Pokemon when I'm waiting for the doctor or anything.

Sometimes watch a TV show on it if I'm on the bus or ferry or something.

There's plenty you can do with this watch, just get creative :)

DPI must be at 100 or lower to be able to check the box and choose your default.

Easiest way is by creating a shortcut to "manage applications" using Launcher Pro or Anycut (it's probably a good idea to have access to this setting anyway, it's really handy for moving apps to and from SD card). In there select your launcher and tap "clear defaults". Now the next time you press the home button you'll have a choice again.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I use the WiFi manager to turn on and select a hotspot. I use the widget from the Zuma launcher to turn it off. That does not always work, and sometimes rebooting does not turn WiFi off. The widget seem to work for turning off GPS and Bluetooth.

ClearD have you or your ROM partner ever found the default clockface.xml files?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Pretty sure the digital ones are all stored inside the framework apk, which would need decompiled with apk tool or something like that.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD you mean /system/framework/framework-res.apk?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yessir, sorry, I'm on vacation at the beach and replying from my phone when I can. Like right now, I'm in an Italian restaurant lol.

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[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
Just a note:

so far turning on airplane mode from a power widget works 100% for turning wifi off. Wifi will turn on once again when you turn airplane mode off again. Airplane mode does not seem to affect the GPS, but it does turn bluetooth off (but you can just turn it on again after)

As for what I use my motoactv for?

I run tablet talk (you have to download it to another device and manually copy it, because the play store won't let you install direct) and calengoo, so when I get an sms, or have a calendar notification they come up on my watch. I hear the alarm from my phone, check my wrist and voila.

Installing swype means that I can also respond to smses. If I happen to be wearing my bluetooth headset, tablet talk also lets me answer the phone.

Unfortunately dprom9 (and cleardroid too, I think) doesn't support device administration, which is required by my work's exchange account, so I can't get most of my appointments.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Is device administration dependant on a specific version of android? Because I believe I remember seeing that in system settings on mine somewhere. Have you tried ReACTV rom yet? If it doesn't work on the Moto firmware, it may work on aosp. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Don't know if you guys want this or not, but the past few days, I've been working on a full spec sheet detailing the specs of all known current smart watches.

You can find it here.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Must be some significance that I downloaded the root 1.1.6 tool without even having a watch?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Lol awesome. Yes, that's the latest version. Hang on to that and it'll be of use when you get your watch. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
That is good to know. My intent is to have it within two weeks. Probably rooted within a day.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Could not wait so I ordered one. I expect it sometime next week.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Sweet! I'm guessing you'll like it. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
It should not take to long to find out.
[Other SmartWatches] WinDroidGuy:
I'll trade mine for a Nike Fuel band...has 9 months left on warranty...username @gmail if interested
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Why do you want to do this trade?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD my watch has arrived. I previously downloaded the 1.1.6 root tool but do not recall how to perform the rooting. Did I lose a file in the transferring from phone to PC?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Open it up! The instructions are on the tool itself. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I did the 4 steps. I saw rm errors on the data backup but none on the rooting step. Now my computer does not see the watch as an external drive. Is there a problem as I did sometbing incorrectly?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
If it didn't error, your device is now adb enabled. To see it as a usb drive again (and stop adb on the watch), open up an adb command prompt and type:

adb shell stop adbd

And to get into recovery, type:

adb reboot recovery

To restart adb on the watch, just reboot it. :)

It'd be nice if someone that knew how to create apks could just create one for us with those buttons on it. I shall try it, if I'm able.

Edit: you could also try installing "adb control for root users"

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I will try this. I presume I move the your custom ROM into a directory on the watch and select it in recovery?

I get get the command to work althought the file is adb.exe. I moved your ROM into the root directory of the watch and then rebooted to recovery.

I did not proceed further since I am uncertain whether to wipe anything before flashing your ROM.
[Other SmartWatches] BL4Z3D247:
I didn't even know this smart watch was hackable. Thanks for the heads up. Might pick one of these up now to play with.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Start with the OP and the links.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Yes indeedy. Don't wipe anything, just move it to the device via USB and then flash it in recovery. :) If it doesn't boot, do a few wipes in recovery and try flashing again. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I have no idea why, we're trying to figure that out in my Rom thread. I'm wondering if it's the bootloader version that makes a difference, as I'm using the latest rom version, thus it should be used with the latest bootloader, I'd assume.

Not only is it hackable, but it's one of the only ones that actually runs real android (and has root!). I've made a nice comparison of all the smart watches available here.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I was able to flash your ROM. Thanks for the help. Is there a ROM that looks and operates like Android without the Motoactv interface?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Double tap your power button and select Zeam. :)
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I will give it a try. Is there a comparison of the available Roms similar to what you did for several smsrtwatches?
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I decompiled that apk and searched for homeclock. I found nothing.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Try a few others then, it was in one of them, just not sure which one, without doing it over again.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
You mean apks in the framework subdirectory?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Could be in the framework (most likely) or it could be in /system/app subdirectory. The good thing is, you can just open the apks like zip files and pull out the files you need.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I believe you are referring to that functionality of es file manager? I copied out the previously mentioned apk and decompiled it under Windows
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I meant use es file manager to mount as root and then copy the files it might be to the sdcard area, then mount the watch to the computer, then copy the files to the computer and open them with a zip opener. But your way works too lol. And is probably easier.

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I essentially did what you said ClearD except I had to decompile not unzip the apk files on the Win 7 machine.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
You don't actually need to decompile if you're just pulling a file out, apk files will open with winrar just like a regular zip file would, and you can see the contents.

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[Other SmartWatches] Saeviomage:
Device administration has been in for ever, but dprom9 and cleardroid crash when exchange tries to set it up.

Reactv does device administration, but bluetooth (and therefore tablet talk and bluetooth PAN) doesn't work on it.

Unfortunately I've been swamped with work and haven't had much time for fun hackings.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Ah, I see. If you can figure out a fix, maybe I can work it in. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I searched on the recompiled apks and did not see any names that looked like clockfaces.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
I'll have to search again when able then, I guess lol

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[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
ClearD I look forward to more places that you suggest. Is your latest ROM revision coming soon?
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Most likely, but I have to find some new things to do with it first. I've got a few property mods that I can make, so maybe those next. :)

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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
What about the live wallpaper files so you can set a live wallpaper without modification? I seem to remember that not being included last time I installed your rom.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
Alrighty, I'll look them up :)

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[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
Pretty sure you just need to inject LiveWallpapers.apk and LiveWallpapersPicker.apk in system/app. I used the ones from CM7 I'm pretty sure.. I seem to remember needing Gallery3D as well, but DPRoland doesn't include that app in his rom and live wallpapers still work, so probably not necessary.
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
The gallery3d allows viewing of pictures, so I'll probably re-include that one as well. :)

And awesome, that should be easy as pie.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I'd try it out before including it, I've been having troubles with gallery3D for actually viewing pictures on newer firmwares...I just keep it for the picture frame widget. Quickpic works better for viewing photos.
[Other SmartWatches] XDA-BOJ:
Motoactiv root tool issue - about to brick :(

rooted via motoactv root tool. Did not likeso tried used the return to stock option . Errored, now the Motoactv just keeps coming up the the "m" splash screen

Got into recovery (fastboot?) volume down + power , tried again but errors. Did several times, including try to root again but now watch say in fastboot mode that battery low and cant continue/program... How do I get out of this without bricking the watch... Plug into charger and splash screen come up and no sign of re-charging ( ie no white led)

Help.....dont want to brick it only had it days ( bought on ebay)
[Other SmartWatches] ClearD:
From the first post in this thread:

"IF YOU DIDN'T LISTEN AND ARE NOW "LOW BATTERY" AND CANNOT FLASH:

First thing's first. It will probably still charge on the wall charger or a car charger. Try that first. But, if it won't...

(or if you're just an avid flasher,) I'd also recommend you get one of these to help you out of jams: Motorola Factory Cable. The one at that link from Team Black Hat is typically out of stock, but a search of the words "Motorola Factory Fastboot Cable" on eBay can get you one for between $5-8. This cable does not charge your unit and does not come with the MotoACTV."

Please read carefully before asking questions that are answered already. You'll need to buy a motorola factory cable from ebay. They're not expensive and will allow you to get rid of that "low battery" error in fastboot. Then, you can return to stock and try again after charging.

If something is erroring, what does the error read? And you most likely have a bad download if it errored at all. Try re-downloading the root tool.

EDIT: ALSO, WHY ON EARTH DOESN'T THE ONLY ANDROID WATCH WITH ROOT AND ROMS HAVE ITS OWN SECTION HERE? WHY ON EARTH ARE WE IN "OTHER SMARTWATCHES"? -.-

We were even featured on the front page of XDA a week ago, for pete's sake. Give us a forum, my gosh.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
Before you attempt anything else, charge it up via the wall outlet. It may take over an hour to see the changing LED light come on if the battery charge is too low or zero.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
I know right?!?! Other smart watches, psshhh!