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[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
:good: Thanks for the info man.

Relating Lightning Launcher, I´ve tried it before but the learning curve for it is to much for me right now. I need something easy ti use and fast. This Launcher is so amazing in the way it has got so much it can do that it tends to be to overwhelming, for me at least. I´m using the good "old" Launcher Pro on CM10 and for now it is doing the job pretty well in my opinion. Fast, stable, with all I need.

Another subject I notice is when titanium restoring apps some of them restore to the sdcard (not internal memory-ext partition). if I try to move them to the ext partition(internal memory) with the built in app configuration of CM10 an error appeares relating low memory on internal memory-when there is plenty of memory in there-on the ext partition. A workaround I found was using Titanium himself to move the apps to internal memory. It does the trick for me:)

Relating the camera aspect, I´m fortunate enough to have an old UCam version (agree with you, last one is not indeed user friendly-I much prefer the version I´m using). Will have to check Zoom Camera to see how it goes for me. By the way, did you unistall stock Camera and Galery? If so, did you do it the normal (aplication configuration) way?

Will definetly check the Greenify app also. But still the 1000MHZ clock is there, which is too much in my opinion at least. I´ve already created 2 10 overclock files with one of them with max cpu clock at 800MHZ (for heavy stuff-like games and such) and one with 600MHZ (for common tasks). They work great, the problem is that the script only sticks at boot, If I could find a way to make it stick when the system is on that would be awesome (to swap between them on the fly;) ). It probably isn´t possible-at leats for now.

The CRT aspect I mencion is the effect you see when pressing the power/on/off button to turn the screen off (that quick white line effect you see, like it happened with "old" CRT TVs (don´t know if your familiar with them, those big boxes of the 70s/80s/90S :cool:

Do you have a way to turn that effect off? On CM9 there was an option for it. On 10 I can´t seem to find it.

Will continue configuring the phone and will be posting back:good:

Thanks again.

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Screenshot issue:

Obrigado. O user _crAss_ ajudou-me com essa opção é já a encontrei:)

Thank you. User _crAss_ helped me with that option and I´ve already found it.

Network Icon:

Yhea, I did get that. I guess I prefered the x icon when no network was available, because I do not know if when the signal is to low any bar appear (and if so, that might confuse me between very low signal and no signal at all). When the signal is good the bars are clearer?! I do believe this change is way more confusing than using the CM9 method, but... opinions :confused:

CRT style screen off:

Yhea, same here... :good:

Obrigado.

Thanks again
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Tiago Costa:
Yes, they are almost white, it's very easy to distinguish them. But when data is activated and working well, they turn blue.

De nada :)! You're welcome.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Thanks Ricfil for the reply.

regarding stock gallery apk,I uninstalled it using TitaniumBackup with deletion of Backup and wiping of Data.

Coming to setting of CPU,have you used the facility in Settings/Performance/Processor/Maximum CPU frequency to set maximum to 800?

Regarding installation apks,I use the following method.After installation using Playstore or side loading the apks which show in the internal memory are moved to SD Card using Titanium Backup.AT first Titanium will ask whether Ext partition has to be activated.I opted yes.Thereafter Titanium will move all the apks to sd .In it there is also option to move the apks to internal memory.

And thanks for the information for CRT.Iam familier with it with my CRT TV.But I am sorry to offer a remark since I didn't give a particular noticce for it.

Thank you again
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Ok. I guess I´ll have to live with the color adaptation in the network icon on CM10 :). I guess it must be ok, after a few days/months of usage.

Thanks.

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Ok. If I understood correctly, you unistalled the galery.apk of the phone using titanium, and after also deleted the galery backup on Titanium?... Did not quite get it:confused: May I simply unistall the camera and gallery whithout the phone go bootloop or something like that (my main issue, since no backup was made yet)?

Regarding Titanium apps installation, mine did not ask where I wanted the apps to be installed:confused:, they simply install and the stock app2ext script installs the apps onto the ext partition (when it works-since some apps do not install using the stock functions on my phone). That is why I mencioned I´m using titanium to "force install" apps to internal memory (ext partition). I´ve managed to install them all, will see if they are not broken or something like that. :rolleyes:

On a side note. I´m pretty shure when I first installed CM10 (5 months ago) it had the option on keyboard settings to choose to disable the enter key to send sms messages (hardware keyboard). That was one of the things that made me switch to it again, since CM9 does not have this option. But lately I´ve been looking for that option and it is no longer there. At least I can´t find it...arghhh :mad: I HATE the lack of that feature. Pisses me off! LOL. Maybe kabaldan took the option out? :confused: Hope not...

Also today, a feature I was having pretty comonly the first time I installed CM10 happened again. The "Telephony problem-phone needs to reboot" dreadfull window appeard again, no network resulted from there and a reboot was the only way out of it. Some bugs I guess... that is why CM10 is still in Alpha stage I believe...

See you.

P.S: I´ve just read a private message from a fellow forum member named Sunxperous who was kind enough to help me out regarding the CRT style effect option. Better than using my on words, I believe he might not mind if I put here what he explained about the options to enable and disable that setting. It went like this:

Big thanks for his contribution and once again thanks for the info :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Regarding uninstallation of gallery.apk,I uninstalled it using Titanium with deletion of Backup.You can uninstall without deleting Backup.If Backup is deleted you can't restore the apk with Titanium.

Titanium will ask only in the first time after flashing the ROM with a full wipe and reinstalling Titanium as to whether ext sd card is to be configured for installing the apks.If we agree to it then it will install the apks to ext sd card automatically all the time afterwards without repeating the same question.

In relation to keyboard settings for "enter key' I also do not see any options in Settings/language input.

But I experience a problem with MMS.?The phone does not send MMS eventhough I completed the APN set up for the MMS as per the default settings specifications provided by my Carrier provider.When I press the SEND button the MMS shows 'Sending'.But it never sends.What should be the problem and what is the remedy?

Thanking you once more....
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Titanium did not ask that on first time for me. I´m pretty shure it didn´t. Nevertheless, I found the way mencioned before to install all the misisng apps to internal/ext partition.:)

Relating the mms issue, I havent tried to send an mms yet. Will let you know how it goes when I do. If you did enable "activated data" option on definitons>wireless & networks>more>mobile networks, have network data enabled on the carrier side and it still does not send it, it is probably another CM10 bug I guess. I´ve read about people also having problems with tethering and the likes... Things meant to happen in "a work in progress" I guess...

Regarding Grennify, I´ve already configured all the apps possible to be hibernated on the app, but still, system apps like Maps, Google Play and others (which are always turning on on background memory) cannot be "grennified", with a warning that those system apps can´t be "touched"... It would be cool if this app would actually let users grennify all available apps...

Just remembered, things I don´t like on the notification area on CM10: The fact that the drop down isn´t semi-transparant like on CM9 and date is above the icons with big letters (personal opinion, but I prefered the smaller below the icons date letters on CM9). Small issues I believe :D.

Things I do like on CM10 notification area:

Available info regarding calls received, sms received and the option to directly send an sms back/call someone on the fly. I also like the fact that the user is able to quick delete all running background apps on multitasking menu by simply clicking one button. Good thinking! :good:

Thanks for the heads up.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Maps and Google Search can be greenified by converting it user apk using Titanium or by uninstalling them and reinstalling from Playstore.I didn't try to greenify Playstore as it may become harmful sometimes considering the unpredictable nature of it.But I think it won't run in background all the time if we get out of it after it's use by long pressing the back button if this button has assigned 'kill apk function'.

And waiting for your report on MMS after your test in convenience,

with thanks....
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Ok man. Thanks. I´ve used Titanium to convert Maps and Google Search to user apps and it works wonders :D Play Store does not work, whenever you go to update an app, Play Store crashes and never launches again, with an error. It must be a system app I believe - when coverted back all went ok. On the first launch Greenify seemed to ocuppy lots of ram on my phone, making it sluggish, but after a reboot all started to go well :confused: It seems a pretty nice app indeed.

Relating the mms option, I do not use it a lot, but when I get my operator monthly feed on the phone again (low on cash at the moment :rolleyes:) will try to send one an see how it goes. Will report back here.

Take care man.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
The Playstore coming with CM10 is a bit old one and somewhat crappy.The latest version of Playstore(3.10.14) is more smooth.On installing it by side loading it will replace the existing one.If you require this latest version of apk I shall send it for you.

Just taking care....
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I would want that also!
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
OK.Please see the attachment.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Thanks man, I will also try that out. :D One question though, I do believe we need permissions added to the.apk after installing it, I´m I correct? If so, do you know what permissions are needed? Or root on our phones will automatically had them for us?

Thanks for the effort man :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
Thanx, I have an improvement with this new version. Before I had to close and open the play store app as I have explained before between the downloading and installation of apps. Now at least I get an installation and a download without closing the app. Not completely solved, but better.

You just need to run the apk, no need for permissions setting etc.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
On side loading in the installation window that appears there will be a list of permissions required. I usually leave them as such doing nothing and and click only on the INSTALL button.Then the apk installs itself immediately.I think since we are already rooted the issuing of relevant permissions will be automatically taken care of.

Thank you.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Thanks man:good:

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Thanks man :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
I installed greenify and first impressions are good. The phone seems not to lag and when checking running services I find nothing loading on its own. I think it consumes a bit more energy than before in the case I had not run any applications or connected to the internet (e.g. reboot and use the phone only as a phone without connecting to the net for a couple of days).

I will install viber again and see if it can stop it from draining my battery in just a few hours without even having it run once.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Agree on the part that Greenify might consume a bit more when no apps are loaded, specially because old versions had some problems with superuser access, and the app kept restarting. This issue apart I can´t see how it would consume more battery.

I´m still testing out several things (including the apps which I can´t for the life of me install to ext partition still) and cannot precise confirm this, but from the usage I have with greenify it seemed to spare lots of battery on my phone. To the point that most background stubburn apps are now under control, and not always restarting themselves.

But the only way to be accurate is after I take care of the app installation issue (dificult at the moment) and let the phone iddle for a few days to be shure:)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Finally was able to test the mms issue on my phone. I must say that my carrier (Vodafone) is having lots of dificulties (maybe on purpose) to explain their coworkers how to explain clients how this mms issue works on Android...

I´ve been talking to them and all they say is Android needs data access to send/receive mms... the thing is I´ve been reading and found a way to put the mms apn working on my phone, on CM10. I just confirmed the mms I sent after the configuration was charged as a mms value included on my monthly feed for voice and sms/mms data and no internet data was charged (when before the configuration I had tested it and on that day internet data was charged...) . They say android needs internet data plans for mms service probably to grab more people into them ( I do not use any at the moment).

What I did?

Settings> Wireless and Networks>More>Mobile Networks> Access Point Names

and touched on the Vodafone PT MMS apn and configured it as show on the screenshots. Note that only the apn type name was changed on the mms apn (to the name you see on the attachement). That way you may select which apn you need ( I keep the mms checked and when I need to use internet data I check the vodafone PT Internet one). Do notice that data enabled option does have to always be checked for both internet access and mms send/receive options to become available).

It works great for me so far:). Hope it helps you also.

Any doubt do say so:good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Thank you for the detailed information.I shall try as per your lines and let you know the result.I also have the internet connection from my carrier(Idea,India).Untill then...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
If you have internet data it might be more useful to set it to send/receive mms, since normally they are only a few kbs in size. In that case you must take care in configuring your internet apn rather then the mms one. Just an assumption, since diferent carriers may have diferent ways to deal with this kind of stuff.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
I have already configured the MMS APN and GPRS APN.The values provided by my carrier(Idea,India) are as below.

MMS......................................................................GPRS

Name: IDEA MMS................................................IDEA

APN: mmsc ......................................................internet

Proxy: Not set .....................................................Not set

Port: Not set...................................................... Not set

Username:Not set....................................................Not set

Password;Not set ...................................................Not set

Server: Not set....................................................Not set

MMSC: http://10.4.42.21:8002/..............................Not set

MMS Proxy:10.4.42.15............................................Not set

MMS Port:8080.......................................................Not set

MCC: 404........................................................404

MNC: 19 .........................................................19

APN Type:default,supl..............................................default,supl

APN Protocol:IPv4...................................................IPv4

APN enabled/disabled: v ..........................................v

Bearer:unspecified...................................................unspecified

With these settings I tried to send MMS by opting MMS apn.But it is showing only "sending".Then tried with GPRS APN option by by activating 2g data connection.This time also it shows only "sending". Hence I am unlucky in sending the MMS in both cases.Have you any suggestion?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Eiertschik:
APN Type for MMS APN has to be "mms"
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Yhea, I believe Eiertschik is correct on that one. On my case I still need to put "default" before that.

It would be helpful if you could provide a screenshot from your apn " main page" and both apn settings (internet and MMS) to see how they go;)
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
OK.I am furnishing below the screenshots of APN Main page ,GPRS APN(2 pages) & .MMS APN(2 pages)..
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Ok. Take the IDEA MMS APN showned, go into its settings and fill in its APN Type with the following: default,mms,supl. Then go into the definitions button and save the apn you just edited.

Leave the IDEA internet APN as it is.

Choose the APN IDEA MMS (blue check it). Test it sending an mms to yourself. It usually takes a relative long time to send the mms (a minute or so), wait and see if it is sent. With that configuration it should be charged the contracted mms value you pay for you carrier contract(and no internet data should be used/charged - although it still appears as data plan used on CM10 configuration). The IDEA Internet one should be used if you prefer to use the internet data plan to send it.

Report back:good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
TWRP Recovery

Can TWRP Recvery be installed in our Milestone A853 instead of Kabaldan's Open Recovery or MiniMod Open Recovery?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
I have no idea.

On a side note. Did you manage to put your mms to work? They should work configuring them as showned.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
.Thank you for the reply and follow up.Just now I configured the mms APN as per your lines, saved it,blue checked it in the APN main page and rebooted.Then opened Message apk,sent an MMS to my number.After about 3 minutes it still shows sending!The size of the picture attached in the MMS is only 45Kbs.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Could you once again post the main apn screen and both the internet and mms apn screnshots? Just to be shure. I´m also curious why it isn´t working with your phone. Did you remember to activate data before sending the mms?
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
Thank you once again for your insisted follow up.Previously when I was sendind MMS I checked the round of MMS in the APN Main page.And when opted MMS APN the internet APN (ie,Data) will be automatically OFF.I cannot make both MMS and internet opted simultaneously.So now I tried to send MMS by opting 'internet' as per your instructions.But this time also it shows sending eternally without fullfilling the action.Also I am attaching the screenshots of APN Main page,internet & MMS APN cofigurations once again.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
Ok. Leave the Internet APN as it is and change only the MMS APN User Name and Password to mmsc. Save it. Test it and see how it goes. Don´t forget to choose the MMS APN (blue ball).

Also, don´t forget to activate data on Mobile Network Settings.
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
OK. I will try that.

One more thing I noticed now.When the screen is not sleeping(ie,when the home screen or lock screen is on) the back lights of Back Button,Menu Button,Home Button,Search Button and Hardware Keyboards are on constantly.This causes the battery to drain fast.Is there a way to keep them off and choosing them to glow only when it is required?And what is the exact procedure for it?

Waiting with thanks once again....
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
As far as I know you can´t easily do what you say (choose when to turn the back light on or off when screen on). Kabaldan specifically introduced the abilitty to automatically turn the physical keyboard light off when keyboard is all he way reverted back (originally it kept on even if reverted back). This helps battery life. More than that I really do not know if it is possible to do...

Do post back relating the mms issue or if you find any other way. :good:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] pnsdhrn:
By keeping in line with your instructions there seems no positive results in sending the MMS in the natural way.Of''course I didn't forget to keep data and MMS APN "ON" while sending the MMS.Even after 3hours it's status shows still "Pending".Then I tried with other Messaging application Message7 from Playstore.It also could not send MMS.Then I installed Tweakker from Playstore which reset the APN Configuration in accordance with their data bank and I tried to send MMS with CM10 Message app and also with Message7 app.Again no positive results.Hence finally I installed Hancent SMS app and tried to send MMS in the normal way by activating Data and MMS APN.This time also no success.So I chose the option of MMS+ in Handcent and by activating only wifi (data and MMS APN off) sent the MMS to my no.This time the MMS is got delivered.Please note that this could be got done not by the virtue of MMS APN Configuraion and Data connection but only with the option of MMS+ of Handcent and Internet connection.MMS can be sent to any phone with this feature of Handcent.

Thanking you again...
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] Ricfil:
If I understand correctly you only managed to get an mms sent using handcent´s mms+ option via wifi conection? Weird...

I´ve researched a bit and found these settings for your phone: http://rajeev1995.blogspot.pt/2007/12/gprs-settings-for-idea-mobile.html

I would try to fill in the mms apn autentication option with "normal" and the proxy service address with: 10.4.42.15:8080 leaving all the other fields as they are.

Apart from that I´m not seeing what the issue might be at the moment, unfortunatly. Try to double check the settings with your carrier again just to be shure.

Sorry if I can´t be of more help man. I´ve tried, and they work on my carrier using the settings I mencioned before, which might point mms service is running fine on CM10(?). But different carriers have diferent settings for their mms servers and the likes, and the issue should be there I guess...:confused:
[Motorola Milestone Android Development] _crAss_:
After using my phone for a lot of time with zepellinrox script and greenify I can say that the phone is rock solid and I have exceeded 10 days without the need to reboot. This was simply impossible before. Even after lots of usage all these days I have never seen the swap needing more than 55-60 MB.

Only downside that you can wait for 3-5 seconds before an app is loaded, but who cares, I know the phone is pretty old.

Just wish that kabaldan spent some more time with CM10, since this is in my opinion the most stable, snappy rom and overall provides the best experience for our old phones.