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[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
[MENTION=858271]mmontuori[/MENTION],

Congratulations on your new title! :) Well deserved if I may say so. In fact - FINALLY!
[Atrix 4G General] kingbobski:
Thank you for giving another lease of life to the Atrix!... Now that everything is complete what exactly is the next step? Crushing bugs and then releasing ?
[Atrix 4G General] nickzan:
As someone who still has over a year to go on their phone contract I'd like to say thanks again to the devs for breathing new life into yes atrix.

p.s. i used the fingerprint lock all the time on gb. In fact my wife has an atrix as well and she won't let me put cm10 on it just because it doesn't have fingerprint support.
[Atrix 4G General] modman21:
I stopped using the fingerprint scanner because after coming out of the shower, my finger tips would be a bit wrinkly and it wouldn't work. I'd have to wait 10-15 mins after a shower before the fingerprint scanner worked. It's a great idea but it has some drawbacks to make it more annoying that simple a pattern unlock.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
From the main thread!

Update 5/10/2013 6:30 PM US eastern:

Greetings Planet Atrix 4G. I have some wonderful news. :) At 6:00 PM US eastern time today, an Alpha release candidate (Alpha-RC1) was made available to the official test team. Their test results will become the basis for the decision for the public release. I know, I know, you're jumping and cheering and doing kart-wheels and shaking hands with your neighbor across the street (unbelievable but true). The developers on this project are a solid team and they have worked so many wonders on our little Atrix 4G. Our test team has been particularly patient, waiting for this release. Their expertise in leaving no stone unturned is something that will help take this kernel to levels that developers alone simply cannot accomplish. Please remember that our developers and testers need all the oxygen they can get and there efforts are focused on the above directive. It's only a matter of time before the Atrix 4G takes over this little green and blue planet. It won't be called Earth forever!
[Atrix 4G General] Jazviper:
I've been following this thread since the original port concept was all there was. This is truly amazing. Although I've moved to another phone recently, my at atrix isn't going anywhere now. Thanks too the devs and testers for all you've done for this community.
[Atrix 4G General] marcovrv:
Just to clarify, I do understand that this feature requires ROM support, it was the team who decided to support it at kernel level as one of the milestones and I felt the post disrespectful. My apologies if someone got offended.

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[Atrix 4G General] dedebekri:
Xda "recognized" him finally?! :thumbup:

Better late than never. Congrats Michael!
[Atrix 4G General] mmontuori:
Marco, i don't understand why you felt the post disrespectful, would you have preferred no fingerprint support at all?
[Atrix 4G General] marcovrv:
I was referring to the other post, not yours, that seemed (to me) to rush the team to release without fingerprint support. On the contrary, I think that this unique feature (challenge, if you like) distinguishes this phone's hardware from the lot. If I just could develop like the team, I wouldn't feel the kernel complete without it and I interpreted that was the team feeling too, since it was a milestone from the start, even though a low priority one. Again, I'm sorry for any misunderstanding.
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
Tester team be careful don't post any more issues it should be dangerous for you certain user be a nervous wreck :) (just french humor) Nice job make your best and take your time for this wonderful rom !!!!!
[Atrix 4G General] kingbobski:
This is amazing news! We should have an alpha hopefully within the week If testing takes longer so be it :D Can't wait to see other kernel running on CM10.1 or maybe even on the leaked ROM! Congrats! I shall be donating what I can in the next few days(Got paid by college) Thank you all so much you have borough life back to the Planet Atrix4G !!!!
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
Issue 44: Bug still exist in CM10.1. Camera aps crash after switch to front and crash every time after. Luckily, could be switch to front if you're fast enough.

The team works on a CM10.1 ALPHA version too ;)
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Some of you don't sleep at all and have bug tracker as home page with 30 second refresh rate :D
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
:D For me it's morning like Zagreb ;)
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
Just a question: Are developers not updating github anymore?
[Atrix 4G General] thearcher4:
Yup, not updating github anymore to prevent any other users from building the alpha kernel and brick their devices. It will be released when it's stable enough. ;)
[Atrix 4G General] saiftheboss7:
Oh nice. :) Waiting patiently. No matter how much time it takes. Thanks for the short but useful info. :)
[Atrix 4G General] jcrahul:
OP update

OP updated :D

Front Camera/Front Video Camera [work in progress] added update OP here and delete this post :D
[Atrix 4G General] BigJeff:
Once HDMI is implemented, how will apps with different UI for tablet and phone handle it? Say you are using the phone, plug it into the lapdock which now registers as a 720P device. (tablet sized) Will the apps automatically toggle between phone and tablet UI without a reboot or how will this work....?

Maybe pull some ASUS magic like the Padphone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eepgiblp2og Skip to 13:40

Apologies if this is to soon to answer.
[Atrix 4G General] delewer:
I see nothing about OTG

Mouse, Keyboard, USB Memory stick, ...

Planned on tests by team ?

Thx a lot !
[Atrix 4G General] Zeljko1234:
Thank you for idea :)
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
OP updated.

Thanks for the tip!
[Atrix 4G General] Lexord:
I didn't know that was posible on our devices, otg would be awesome!

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[Atrix 4G General] BigJeff:
It's possible, but unfortunately you need an external power source... Or you did at first? IDK I'm probably wrong but it would be neat it we could get it.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
I think only some devices need an external power source. They sell Y cables so that this can be done.
[Atrix 4G General] BigJeff:
Yeah but it kind of loses it's purpose of being a "mobile" when it has to be hooked up to something all the time... Or perhaps I misunderstood what you mean.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
I don't know that much about it, but I'm pretty sure an external battery will work.

Also some USB devices are self powered so they will work. Like a camera for example.
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
A new version of CyanogenMod 10.1.0 RC2 is released may be nice for our Atrix too :D
[Atrix 4G General] 3n3rg1c:
A new bug came up today : airplane mode bug. Issue no.46 dated 12/5/2013
[Atrix 4G General] delewer:
I have the OTG working on CM7.

I have open a usb hub to shunt the power source to Atrix, and it's working fine

Keyboard, mouse, hard disk with paragorn ntfs apk, and i try to do dvb tnt tv to work with additional drivers..... On CM7 it's ok

But on CM10.1 with kernel 3.1.1... OTG don't work for me... So .....
[Atrix 4G General] Fastrite:
OTG with power source works on epinters CM10 with old kernel.
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Read the thread title again. Pretty sure nobody cares about the old kernel here.
[Atrix 4G General] delewer:
Yes your right.

But it's a nice information to be sure if it's a kernel related problem or a firmware related problem.

Now we let "dream team" do there stuff.. And port (or not), plan (or not) OTG if they want (or not)

thx again.
[Atrix 4G General] thearcher4:
Two new low priority bugs added:

#47

Proximity sensor

-> Turns off but remain off until end of the call. Basically cannot end call. During calling proximity sensor turns off/on screen normally.

#48

USB connection of Internal Storage without SD Card

-> It seems the SD card needs to be present in order to initialize the USB Connection to internal storage. Tester using Windows, tester not sure if this happens on Linux. Also tester sees 8 "Internal Storage" sections in the "Storage" menu, all of them are grey'd out in the menu.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
#48 doesn't seem too big of a deal. I don't think anyone uses an Atrix without the SD card.
[Atrix 4G General] thearcher4:
I'm currently without SD card. But it's low priority, I think the devs know better where to channel their resources to ;)
[Atrix 4G General] NooBs7yL3:
It's not vary important even if you don't have a sd card. You can use airdroid for putting files into the atrix

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[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Um, I actually know of plenty of people using it this way. For two major reasons: 1) the Atrix has plenty of internal storage anyway so an external card is hardly needed, and 2) some ROMs had issues with an external SD card inserted so people were removing them and then never put it back.
[Atrix 4G General] Pesky person:
I had the same problem on CM7 (Neutrino 2.9 EE ROM) sometimes...
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
If you go to the page for this bug it has been pointed out that this might be a CM bug as it existed on a CM10 with the old kernel as well as CM7 according to the person above.

Also one person was unable to reproduce issue #46 and no one else has confirmed it.
[Atrix 4G General] scanuto:
I also have this problem on epinter's cm10, but it rarely occurs.
[Atrix 4G General] eduardomc:
I had the airplane mode problem for several versions of CM7 MROM, but in the last update it has been fixed.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
For those interested in checking the progress on current bugs go to the bug tracker here: https://code.google.com/p/kernel-olympus/issues/list

It's in the OP but some might not have seen it.
[Atrix 4G General] Marco Mugnatto:
I already prepared an article to post on social networks when the public release is available. This will be a milestone in Android's history, for all that happened, from Motorola's broken update promisse to all this beautiful work from the community. :victory:
[Atrix 4G General] thearcher4:
Just a quick question, since I'm new to XDA and Android development in general. How groundbreaking is the coding that is being done by the brilliant team of devs? Has nobody else ever written a kernel for a device?

What makes this project particularly outstanding and challenging? I think it would be nice for those not on the team to understand this and better appreciate what our devs are doing!
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
Someone will answer this better than me, but basically they wrote the kernel from the ground up. They took code from various sources as well as wrote original code. I remember a while ago they had to convert the language the code was written in to C.

A lot of the work they have done has been time consuming while other breakthroughs have been made throughout the process.

The whole dev team has accomplished something that no one saw coming. Something similar may have been done for another device, but this is much more time consuming and complex than making tweaks and changes to an existing kernel source as developers have done for phones like the Nexus 4.
[Atrix 4G General] Fishmoose:
From the ground up is a bit exaggerated. They didn't rewrite the entire Linux kernel. Think of it as a model kit, but some of the parts don't fit together from the start, requiring some extra work. A few pieces may even be missing altogether, so they have to be borrowed from other models or made by hand.

Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not trying to belittle the hard work put into adapting it for our phone, just trying to prevent misunderstandings.
[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
Yes, take the Google Code + Moto Code + Apply Sticky Plasters = Kernel 3.1.0 for Atrix :)

The Sticky Plasters is the work the devs are doing... but it's far from simple!
[Atrix 4G General] mcopeland1003`:
Don't forget that Motorola did supply some needed info. Don't know how much as it has never been exposed to the community as far as I know.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
The thread has been cleaned.

Please try to avoid petty fights over things of little importance. Keep things on topic.

We can all go back to eagerly anticipating the release of the kernel.
[Atrix 4G General] UncleCemka:
I think what the devs are doing is more like writing the drivers to the latest Linux kernel specific to our device from the ground up. There is source code available for the drivers for the older kernel (gingerbread kernel) and some binary versions of the drivers for the newer kernel ( the leak). They took all those pieces to make a fully working set of drivers for the latest Linux kernel. They did have to reverse engineer the newer binary only drivers to get to this point. It's a lot easier talking about this theoretically than actually doing it though.

Just my $.02
[Atrix 4G General] lowater:
It is really remarkable that this closed alpha has not expanded the known issues more than it has. I was prepared to see multitudes of new issues popping up. And of course, we'll surely see more when it is a public alpha. But in any case, it's really amazing.

Every single day when I get on here, someone has something negative to say. Never about the developers anymore, but either something indicating impatience, or people taking on self-appointed roles of moderators, or people just being nasty to other people. It's no wonder the dev's made everything private. Now we're dying for updates. If someone says something that bothers us, can't we just ignore it? Why jump down their throat over it? This is a conversation between people who have never met, operating under pseudonyms, in various different parts of the globe, who are not putting any personal stake into this kernel, with the exception of perhaps a donation (which the devs have been clear to say that donations do not guarantee a finished, polished product) - and still, we get so freaking worked up over the slightest little thing! And all of that takes away from the truly amazing work the developers are doing.
[Atrix 4G General] marcovrv:
Well, it was more like: Linux/Google Code -> Moto Xoom Code -> Samsung R Code -> LG Optimus Code -> NVidia Code + Decompiling Unfinished ICS binary + a little help from Motorolans + a really big load of patience, perseverance and, last but not least, genius to cherry pick from all those thousands of lines of code and information the ones that work, and develop from almost nothing those missing, just to keep the Atrix 4g (Olympus) current and alive. An that with a team of developers, testers and managers spanning at least two continents (three if you count the Americas as different continents) and four native languages (last time I saw).
[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
No, most of the code you mentioned was junked as it was never going to work well, check the thread :)

---------- Post added at 06:34 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:30 AM ----------

It's a forum... In the dictionary - 'meeting or assembly for the open discussion of subjects of public interest'

'open Discussion' is the key element :)

If you don't want open debate, use a BLOG!, which many devs do ;)
[Atrix 4G General] marcovrv:
That's what I meant by the arrows ...
[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
Ah! I see now :)
[Atrix 4G General] NooBs7yL3:
Can someone of the test team say something for the alpha RC1? because if the battery drain is fixed, I think it's ready for a daily use

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[Atrix 4G General] quetzalcoatl2435:
Be patient. When there are new things to be shared, it will show up in the dev thread.
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
New rumors for tomorrow on the google I/O , announcement of atrix Phoenix ressurection but be carreful may be jokes :)
[Atrix 4G General] integraletotale:
You start with Alpha and then release a Beta. Alphas are for developers only. Beta is for testers. When Beta is stable you release a Release Candidate. When the RC(s) are stable you release a General Availability (GA). Wait for Beta...
[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
Yes, and for now we have (sweet FA) lol
[Atrix 4G General] NooBs7yL3:
Even if is an alpha, with this bug list I think is ready for a daily use ; the cm10.1 is still in alpha stade and there are lots of person that use it like a daily rom

For me the main bug that doesn't let to use for daily use was the battery drain, if it's fixed for me is ready

Ps scuse me for my English

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[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
Agreed, although I still have mobile data issues with the kernel before it was 'closed' so I can't wait to see if its working properly now!
[Atrix 4G General] lowater:
Open discussion is exactly what I'm advocating when I suggest ignoring things you disagree with. Attacking people has obviously done nothing but create hostility and stifle discussion. :)

Furthermore, open discussion disappeared to a large degree when the various kernel forums left the dev team with no choice but to make progress and commits private.
[Atrix 4G General] rosenbs:
When people wait so eagerly for the kernel to be released, they keep a PC next to their bed so they can check multiple times in middle of the night if the kernel was released, during the day they keep on hitting the f5 button that the print on the button got rubbed off, if they get in a spot with no cellular reception or no WiFi their blood pressure rises, with all this stress no wonder people become hostile lol
[Atrix 4G General] jcrahul:
3 Issues were not kernel related :D

Down to 14 errors from 17.. apparently

-Fruit Ninja (THD and normal version)

-The phone wants to connect to the wrong carrier

-Turning off the GPS icon does not disappear from the status bar

Issues were not kernel related xD :D
[Atrix 4G General] thearcher4:
that's good news! Every bug squashed is good news ::highfive:
[Atrix 4G General] rosenbs:
If you read the forums you will see that they are planning on releasing a public alpha.
[Atrix 4G General] ethantarheels123:
Lol that's the built in signature from xda app. Why remove it?
[Atrix 4G General] cailloup:
lol :good:

what an amazing stressful project

I've heard from a reliable source that public alpha is coming next tuesday :p ... for those who remember jokes with moto ICS update deadline in september
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
All three of the latest issues seem to be CM issues or testers can't replicate them.

https://code.google.com/p/kernel-olympus/issues/list
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo..........

Not that again!
[Atrix 4G General] alamd:
but where in the world does that happen?

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[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
Next thing you know, people will be hoping for the alpha build leak, just like we were once hoping and praying for an ICS leak from Moto.

Lol. Apparently people just have zero patience.
[Atrix 4G General] aaurnab:
I think Tuesday counting have already been started, Nobody can't telling because moderator will clean him/her.
[Atrix 4G General] chrismen83:
I don’t think is respectful to mention all people as zero patience, a lot of person give donation and respect the team :(
[Atrix 4G General] zen25205:
I don't think the devs should have gone private... its not in the open source spirit! Sure some people would compile and release unfinished code but nobody would be made to install it. If people bricked... then nobody except themselves to blame!

We have all decided to break warranty and go for custom code so this is no different. But we have to wait until the devs deem the code safe for public consumption. If code is this dangerous then dailies wouldn't happen... but they do!

Food for thought :)
[Atrix 4G General] sntc06:
If I recalled correctly, when the leak was available, someone discovered that if a certain kind of SD card is present, phone will reboot upon entering deep sleep. removing the SD card solves the issue.

I wonder if the testers have any issues like SD card compability, or does these kind of things only happen in the leak, not our 3.1 kernel?
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
True, but they have made major advancements since going private. It would be nice if they at least made the battery life code public, but I kind of understand.

If they made the current code public before releasing an alpha many people would compile it and it would "steal the thunder" from the alpha release.

Also people could release their own ROM with it, without breaking any rules.

After all the hard work the devs have put into this project, they don't want to let it go to waste.

As soon as an alpha is released you will see ROM devs bringing new ROMs and updating current ROMs with the new kernel.

So although we are now waiting blindly with only the project manager's updates and the bug tracker to give as clues to when a release will come, it will be worth the wait once it is released.
[Atrix 4G General] pgsmith68:
I agree, I have donated twice and I think this is my second post in any of 3 threads about this project. Heck I don't even use the Atrix anymore as my daily phone I have since moved on then donated because this is such a big project.
[Atrix 4G General] jamesgg:
Whether or not the code will go public, an alpha build is what most of us are waiting for anyway. The dev team is great and have no doubt they will continue to excel. I'm sure soon enough the code will go public after a certain level of progress is made. From there it can only get better or worse (code is only good as the person typing it).
[Atrix 4G General] ravilov:
True. I didn't really mean to generalize it like that. However, you have to admit there are definitely a lot of people that fit that description pretty well. ;)

Like I explained once already, choosing to have closed development has absolutely nothing to do with open source philosophy and is in no way a violation of any freedom granted by open-source. Sure, everybody would like it if the development stayed open, but you can't really use the "is not open-source anymore" or similar argument.
[Atrix 4G General] o0darkmaxx0o:
Thunder

This is not about "thunder" is about responsability.

If i have the cure for cancer on rats, i will not make this public until is safe for human use.

Beta, Alpha, whatever is far from public release. Be patient,let the tests be made by ppl who know how to do this.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
Have you been following the main thread? The public release is not far.

Regardless of when it comes we are all patiently waiting, but don't make it sound like the release is far away.

Using your analogy: the "cure" is safe for human use, but they want to release it in a professional way free of any minor side effects.
[Atrix 4G General] o0darkmaxx0o:
Yes, is not far from be released, but how good this kernel will be ? Not because the devs dont want to, but because ppl keep asking for it.

On other scennes (from were i come) many devs just give up, cause ppl wanna everything right now. And ppl simple steal other work to get some "scene aplauses" so... let them work, things will be released on the right time, and with the needed security measures to avoid brics.
[Atrix 4G General] atrix4g18:
I don't understand your first sentence, but I get the gist of what you're saying and I agree. Luckily we have very talented, professional devs working on this so none of us have to worry.

No matter what we post about the release won't come any sooner. The soonest we will receive the kernel will not come sooner from speculation.

All we can do now is patiently wait and we will have a kernel that brings new life to the Atrix soon enough. With all this talk of when it will be released some people have lost sight of just how big this project is and what it means for our Atrix.
[Atrix 4G General] m1k3_:
Maybe we can't understand the first sentence, but the last one... This pretty much defines the work that was done by someone here.

But the dev give up? NO! The keep working getting in a almost funcional status of the kernel.

The public version of kernel it's going the be release soon! No matter who it hurts, devs here are just amazing!