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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems its true, 1.29 tries to deal with contrast?

any way from what i saw with my hands on the device, contrast will differ greatly based on your focus/exposure point
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
can we report ignorant people such as this guy?

im pretty sure hamdir is tired after explaining to so many idiots one by one, yet they still dont get it
[One (M7) General] slind:
Ignoring them is the best treatment ;)
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
lol

dude I don't give a toss how big the aperture is, or what other hardware superiority the One has, all I care about is the quality of the end result.

I don't have either phone, and I am being subjective as I am looking to buy either of the two. But from what I have seen the S4 trounces the One is every aspect, except for external speaker quality and of course build material/design.

Proof to back my claims

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_vs_htc_one-review-913p8.php
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
then if what you said is true, you ought to get yourself a s4 already. and you already know this is the htc one forum, and there's alot of fanboys here. unless you have something constructive to say, not S4 IS BETTER BECAUSE IT HAS MORE MEGAPIXELS , then you post.

otherwise, keep your "opinions" to yourself and buy your trusty s4

and you dont know that gsmarena is very samsung biased? all those while they kept giving the victory to the one, is to please htc fanboys so that they wont attack the site's comments section
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
lol

the photos speak for themselves. How can you accuse the site of being biased when the s4 samples are far superior?

I am more than happy for you to show me your own unbiased comparisons
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
it's not about that site only, why is it only that site showing a darker photo on the one compared to 10 other sites showing photos much better than the xperia z ( i assue s4 = xpz since they share the same sensor, same aperture , same mp count) ?
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
z vs one

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_vs_xperia_z-review-917p9.php

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z vs one vs s4

http://android.pandaapp.com/news/04...ne_vs_galaxy_s_vs_xperia_z.shtml#.UXal9KLvtBk
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Looks like the latest update handles exposure much better, getting rid of the washed-out effect. Hope it hits AT&T sometime in the next century :D
[One (M7) General] slind:
Really sad to see that you fall for winwiz's trolling attempts.
[One (M7) General] nullkill:
Hate to say I don't think he's trolling. He is one of those people who judge a camera by zooming in on a image even though he has no intention of cropping the image. When this is done especially with the pre productions pictures the HTC One does not come out on top. This is of course very naive as you are judging an entire camera based on one aspect forgetting that this camera 90% takes a far superior shot unless you are 100% ideal conditions. It's also forgetting that this camera can take a wider range of shot than just about anything else besides the 920. Does it have the absolute best detail NO. Does it tromp all other cameras overall with it's ability to always capture amazing shots no matter what lighting hell YES!

But hey if you want to enlarge 20% of the picture and print it you are right the HTC One is not for you but then neither is any camera phone so get a DSLR!
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
From what I have seen I think the S4 has better white balance and detail when zoomed. Also it often shows better dynamic range. On top of that it seems to handle low light very well compared to earlier models like S3 or OneX. It can really take great pictures. BUT it will never be able to get usable pics as often as the One in less than ideal light. It will also never have the ability to capture motion the same way. It's up to you what you prefer or if the differences are big enough to decide your purchase. Both are great and far better and versatile than anything else out there. Just pick your poison :)

Also this thread has shown what the One camera can do and that is worlds apart from some of the reviews out there showing pretty bad pics. Why that is is anyones guess. Hardware, software, bad use of the device, bias.. who the F knows...
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
with jsut 4megapixels, it is completely unviable judge a photo by zooming in or cropping it. he's just trying to make the one's camera look bad due to the low megapixel count. he's one of those "4MP?! NOT SHARP ENOUGH" kind of guy.

gsmarena's comparison looks bad because the one's pictures are upscaled. when you upscale or downscale, it's already a flawed comparison , thus invalid

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no, all samsung phone cameras have bad white balance, note 2 and s3 have bad white balance. i once captured a white lighted background with my one x, well it came out white. but it was yellow on the s3 and note 2
[One (M7) General] john291:
photos

Can we please share htc one photos again here on this thread....
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
Thank you for your info packed post. I eagerly await some proper comparison pictures of the 2 devices
[One (M7) General] nullkill:
Yesterdays Zoe

https://share.htc.com/Wofc6-Ap3
[One (M7) General] Aldiggi:
This lens is super wide angle.
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
Me to, but not in this thread. This is a Htc One thread. (I know I myself has wandered off track in this thread. Sorry about that)
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
ZOE-frame of a helicopter flying overhead. Didn't have time to set up a great shot, so this is all I was able to get.
[One (M7) General] georgieff:
IMAG0036 by Nikolay Georgieff, on Flickr

IMAG0009 by Nikolay Georgieff, on Flickr
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
Simply gorgeous

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Tell me if any other phone camera is capable of doing this, amazing!
[One (M7) General] Sodalitas:
Pictures taken with Sharpness -1, everything else stock. 1.29.707.3. Can't wait for 1.29.707.13 to be released OTA (if it ever arrives!)

Water feature at R Mar Resort and Spa by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Water feature at R Mar Resort and Spa by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Plastic flowers in hotel lobby by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Rattan texture of furniture by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Royal Phuket Marina by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Limestone Wall by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Speedboat at Phi Phi Islands, Thailand by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Dusk and sunset over Ao Railay by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Sunset at a massage parlour at Ao Nang by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Night view of Red Ginger Chic Resort by cheeksoda, on Flickr

Panorama of Railay West Beach by cheeksoda, on Flickr​
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
why're you still here? go buy your s4 already
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=3940150]Sodalitas[/MENTION] stop just stop, its torture :)

i envy you for the phone and the locations :laugh:

*knock on wood*
[One (M7) General] Sodalitas:
Shush [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION], I know you like this torture ;)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Glutton for punishment ;)

I also envy you, Phi Phi island has always interested me, I'd like to go there!

If you live there then I really envy you!

Great photos, I also cannot wait for the OTA!

---EDIT---

Quick question, how many people 'actively' use Zoe?

Do you leave it on as default or only switch to it when it's needed?
[One (M7) General] Sodalitas:
If you get the chance to, I'd really recommend going to Phi Phi Islands and Ao Nang/Krabi! Gorgeous places. I was a little hesitant to bring the One out with all the potential water damage, but this camera is just screaming to be put to work! :D
[One (M7) General] t4ure4n:
Very Good. Waiting for my phone to arrive so that I can play with Zoe

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HTC One Haters

Have a look here for proper camera comparison of S4 VS One + others

Anandtec Samsung S4 Camera review

If you care about build quality, design and of course good pictures you will change your mind too..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
keep in mind brian is using shrapness -2 and hence his photos are soft a little from the One

and here is one more from Gizmodo UK :)
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
Thanks for the link.

The samples in the anandtec website are mental! HTC ONE low light shots are amazing! wow

But in daylight, the SGS4 shots look much better!
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Thank you, once again. :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
Edit: Misunderstood.
[One (M7) General] winwiz:
?

That is the same conclusion the author of the review came to!

:good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the conclusion is pretty clear

SGS4 wins daylight

One wins low light and shutter time
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
The HTC one bright photo looks awful, far too soft, he shouldn't have reduced sharpness to -2

I am adding sharpness to that photo to see how much better it could have looked.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
actually -2 is the proper way to take photos and then you manipulate them later, but for comparison sake sharpness -1 is best
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Yup, very true, but not many people would be editing them later, even though it is what you should be doing if you want the very best out of the camera, they just take the photo and then put it through instagram, I am one of them (not the instagram part) as I CBA fiddling with the photos later :p :o

But as you said, for this comparison, he should have left it at -1 or reduced the GS 4 sharpness too (if possible?)
[One (M7) General] TeamDraven:
Here's a photo of Merlin, my kitty.
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Original image:

http://i.imgur.com/Xeozz4E.jpg

Via CS 6, I just used the "sharpen more" preset (someone could probably fine tune it to be even better)

http://i.imgur.com/PRAFhWd.jpg

Via perfectly clear (tried sharpening it in CS 6 after but too much noise is visible then)

http://i.imgur.com/r6WgE9G.jpg

Am sure someone more experienced with photoshop could get better results.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One: Comparing Megapixels With UltraPixels

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compared to this

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/gadgets/Samsung/SGS4/SPH-L720-0002-sentinel.jpg

in my opinion at 1:1 the One has better photos, just check the view angle, the S4 is also applying aggressive processing, i wonder if we can disable it as well
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Yup agree with that 1.1 = one, zoom in/crop = GS 4 and indeed, the GS 4 photo looks a bit too sharp in some places.

Not sure since I haven't read much about the camera app, only the features/effects, although I would imagine that there must be option......
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Damn, the One really excels at grabbing the little details other cameras miss. Just look at the box in this picture - it has so much more "character".

http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-con...One-Camera-Comparison-Outdoor-Shade-Trash.jpg
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
authentic camera like i've been calling it, its collecting more detail per pixel
[One (M7) General] Dyspnea:
Hello! I am using camscanner application a lot and I am interested whether the HTC one can cope with that with the 4mp camera sensor. Can I ask if someone could post a full sized photo of A4 plain text page? At the moment I am using Galaxy Note with 8mp and when I tried 3mp and 8mp photos of text the difference is quite noticeable. I had HTC Desire HD in the past and I really like HTC One but my only concern about it is whether I can get good photos of text.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Took two sets of photos for you. One of them is the entire piece of paper, the other is just the text on the paper. I also took one of each set in Normal mode and one of each set in Text mode.

http://silellak.com/projects/One/HTCOne_FullPaper_Normal.jpg

http://silellak.com/projects/One/HTCOne_FullPaper_TextMode.jpg

http://silellak.com/projects/One/HTCOne_AllText_Normal.jpg

http://silellak.com/projects/One/HTCOne_AllText_TextMode.jpg

All of these were taken in the fairly-low-light of my work desk.
[One (M7) General] Dyspnea:
Thank you very much for the photos and especially for the quick response! The text capture turns out quite alright and is comparable to my current phone's capabilities.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Yeah, I think "Text Mode" really helps. And no problem! I was actually curious too, but hadn't tried for myself.
[One (M7) General] cachookaman:
overcast day today

regular

HDR

i dont know what happened with the HDR photo but the entire left side ended up blurry
[One (M7) General] beforedenied:
Here are some of mine, full resolution no adjustments

Here's a Macro shot I got today, wow!

Normal mode:

Low Light:

HDR:

Macro:
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
So the new 1.29 firmware is just released and reportedly improve the camera performances :eek:

Any new samples with the new firmware? :fingers-crossed:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I prefer the colour representation from the One, look at the portrait shot, skin tones look less like Amy Childs...
[One (M7) General] nookcoloruser:
HDR does that every time to me too. HDR is borked for me. :( Hope 1.29 fixes it for me when it finally gets here.
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
check my one and tell is it better or worse than your one?
[One (M7) General] nookcoloruser:
Its the same. Right down one side (which side depends on which orientation you hold the phone in landscape) but yeah 1/5th of the picture down one side ends up dramatically blurred when HDR is enabled. I've seen it in other pictures in this thread too, so I can assume we are not alone.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
+1, hope to see some more comparison than androidpits fruitbasket

http://www.androidpit.de/htc-one-up...&utm_medium=News-Stream&utm_content=Variant_1

Skickat från min Transformer TF101 via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its OIS as confirmed by Anandtech sometimes it blur a side of the image as it tries to counter your movement, think of it this way without OIS you would have ended up with a full blurred image
[One (M7) General] jamiee6610:
Some close up images using stock hdr, camera 360 and manual adjustments
[One (M7) General] petiha1:
Was it on a stand or in your hand?
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
i think u guys should add which firmware are you all on after posting your photos
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I think HoX camera is much better then One camera either that be night or day. Here few samples from Night / day / macro / complete darkness.

AS you can see photos are super sharp in every single angle/place even with sharpness -2 lol.

Note:

If you wanna see full photo quality click on the photo 1st time to open it on the site and 2nd time to open it full screen.

HDR bright day.

HDR Bright day 1

HDR Bright day 2

HDR Bright day 3

Macro 1 ( btw this thing was moving very fast lol )

MAcro 2

Macro 3 ( this one is impressive imho , even the sky kept the true color and didn't shine out )

All these photos were taken between 9pm - 11pm.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 1 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 2 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 3 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 4 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light. ( the light you're seeing here is the light from street light )

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 5 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 6 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 7 - Almost complete darkness with little light from the street light.

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 8 - This was literally complete darkness except the little light from the street light

HDR mode + Night scene bug no flash 9 COMPLETE DARKNESS - No street light no flash no nothing complete darkness i couldn't see ANYTHING with my eyes here.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4914682]Shan89[/MENTION] your comparison is far from fair mate, 90% of your shots are using the HDR mode which we have proven are mighty impressive in both light and night on the One X at the expense of photo taking latency and shutter speed

The One has the same HDR abilities just not as refined and it can do HDR + auto flash or just HDR at night at a fraction of the One X Speed :)

but yes your post is a testament of how great the camera is on the One X, the color balance and contrast was spot on in that camera, except in low light, what you are testing is a bug and slow HDR, no match to how easy and beautiful it is to use the one at low light in both photo and especially video captures, not to mention low light color accuracy which is a mess on the One X

I just hope HTC will keep refining the One color daylight color balance and contrast, the One X was the best in daylight and had the very best HDR

by the way i have a very cool test for your bug, i will be posting in the related thread soon ;)
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
I picked up my Silver 32GB One two days ago and so far I'm thrilled with it.

I snapped a bunch of pics this afternoon of the dog. This is probably one of the best pictures I've ever taken of him - primarily because I grabbed this with Zoe and he is like a small child - he

never

stands still.

Both were captured with -1 Sharpness. I've attached the shot I grabbed from Zoe along with the Auto Enhanced version. The rest of the photos were of him laying in

heavily

direct sunlight and they're sort of washed. However, attempting Auto Enhance really over exposed the extremely bright areas.

I'm showing my software is 1.26.502.10.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I think hox bad color reproduction sux at night cuz of HDR , hdr is know to give blueish tint photos on hox @ daylight. Tho i still think HoX beats One with bug , without a bug it stands no chance. Anyway if we take it like average Joe and just use auto One definetely wins @ night. I just wish One has good quality photos like HoX @ daylight.

Btw i think hox has better color reproduction and literally exactly the same as you see it when using normal mode/scene.

Tested it that why i know.

Btw another thing i found out regarding hox with HDR + Night bug , when using this bug + flash colors are much more natural and real color then without flash. You can see that clearly on this photo.

Too bad my lens were dirty so i have that ugly shiny thing from the light.

And lastly looking forward to see your *cool test * thingy :P Btw any hints what you gonna do lol ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4914682]Shan89[/MENTION]

nope auto vs auto, auto flash vs auto flash, HDR+flash vs HDR+Flash, the One wins hands down in terms of colors at night

its clear in my comparison above where i did not use HDR

your shot at night is clearly redish

stop fooling yourself, you will see when you try it :)

there is no point in winning this using your bug, because the shutter and processing speed is incredibly slow its almost useless, if you cant snap a sharp still
[One (M7) General] john291:
great picture:good:
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Picture of a cake from a birthday party at work today. Software version still 1.26.502.10.
[One (M7) General] jamiee6610:
Various settings using stock and camera 360.
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Thank you, friend! I'm sure I'll have more to come.

Very impressive pics!!
[One (M7) General] jamiee6610:
Thanks, just trying out the update on the camera.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
btw [MENTION=4914682]Shan89[/MENTION]

i can confirm the night mode + hdr camera bug on the one x

before bug :

after bug :

and yeah these images are quite bad, taken behind thick window glass :P
[One (M7) General] yokken:
gentlemen, i come to share MAYBE the best photo i have taken with my one so far. this may be a thread killer. apologies.

http://i.imgur.com/ReM2QeQ.jpg
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
Comparison between my One and my wife's iPhone 5. Night mode, -1 sharpness.

HTC One

HTC One Cropped

iPhone 5
[One (M7) General] townay:
http://connect.dpreview.com/post/92...sunggalaxys4-vs-htcone-vs-iphone5-vs-lumia920

Another review from dpreview. Seems to favour s4 and L920 for the most part..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
They criticize sharpness too much, did they even bother to reduce sharpness? Sigh...they also care about too much MP despite being a photography website and know better about sensitivity

This one is funny, really did they expect ultrapixel to beat the s4 in daylight?

Night wins

Here is something new, praising the flash (it has auto metering)
[One (M7) General] franki_667:
Macro setting... Tried keeping my hands as still as possible - would've been better if I had something to lean on :)
[One (M7) General] Razwaz:
Working in the hills today so got to try out the panoramic, really impressed. Blew them up on my 47" TV and WOW!

Also HDR made a real good difference in direct sunlight.
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
can you upload the full size panorama shot please? :)
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Lunch today. Medium (artificial) lighting in the office. HDR. 1.26.502.10.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Lol you got me wrong mate , I'm not saying hox camera is better at night then one camera , what I meant to say it probably captures more light , but for a good pic we need to phone on some kind of surface + use bug which takes around 1 min , while with one we can do much sharper photo with better color reproduction in few sec.

The bug works best when something is not that far lol so hox lens can pick up Some light source. Btw after auto enchanting or using light levels from gallery photo will be much brighter :p
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
I've come to love the camera now that I understand it.

Most bad pictures are because the phone overexposed unless you help it pick the right lighting to meter correctly.

The thin grey cast is a great thing because it means all the tone is there, so you can post edit it to your liking and any loss is your choice.

Few more shots, the building picture would be tough for another camera...
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
Sharpness set to -1 for all photos. No enhancements.

Really dark now. Switched to night mode.

Night mode. Completely dark out here. A small amount of candlelight. The scene was actually slightly darker than it appears here.

Night

Night

Macro

Blah, seems like xda made these smaller than I uploaded them at.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Low-light photo from the county fair tonight. Really impressed with the lack of noise.
[One (M7) General] john291:
Wow theses are realy great........:good::)

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Great picture..:good:

Sharpnes -1?

No flash?

Auto mode?
[One (M7) General] ilogik:
The camera is pretty poor, especially on macro, compare the two. Here is a watch pic I took with HTC Diamond back in 2008.

And HTC One
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
you did not go close enough
[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
1.Clean the lens

2.Can you try again with the same lighting setup

2.The minimal focus distance of the One is still longer than most of HTC's previous phone, so depth of field may not be swallow as it used to be , this is expected
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Yup to all of the above!
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
i really hope they'd come out with a refreshed one+ or something with focal length as close as the sensation xl, as well as a small bump in megapixel count and with the snapdragon s800 :D
[One (M7) General] ilogik:
I cant get a closer shot because the phone won't focus, its also set on macro mode. Also the lighting is very close, its hard to replicate something that I did 5 years ago ;)