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[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
The difference is that the One takes a series of full resolution photos and does not take a frame from a video. If you take a still frame from a video from the iPhone you will only get the low resolution of 1920x1080 if you film it in full HD. It might work in some cases and for viewing on the phone screen only but you cannot expect the same quality at all. It would probably also be quite blurry if its a moving subject (like this kid) in bad light.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Yeah true. It was already in Zoe mode. Would have done burst otherwise.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
old discarded news mate

but yes HTC will keep improving the camera through software just like they did on the One X

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yes the advantage is that you capture them in full 4MP size full quality

do you guys want to bet shutter burst mode will be introduced in the iPhone 5s? :)
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
With the Zoe you will get the ability to capture the moment before the shutter is pressed thou. Something the burst mode will not. Not to bad when you are dealing with upredictable small folks ;). Otherwise you would have to keep the shutter down a very long time waiting for the right moment.

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I thought that the Zoe mode took 20 frames in full 4mp rez. It doesn't? Or is it just the quality that drops a bit?
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
Excellent -- much clearer. Thanks for the explanations.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ah yes good point, i forgot about the pre capture, typical HTC awesomeness, i remember reading ZOE captures are of reduced size or quality no?
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Nope, here's the data from that image from Zoe
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
cools thx for clarifying
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I for One cannot wait!

Puntastic!
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
I'd love to see the pic of that parrot with auto enhance used. I'd imagine it would look spectacular.

Also, I have to mention, the pics from stesa and basil3 have been absolutely fantastic. Thank you both very much as you've proven what's possible with this camera. Cheers!
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
Is there actually a new f/w? Or is it just that the majority of the reviews were using pre-release f/w and that all retail handsets have the most up to date f/w? (Which I am guessing is 1.29.)
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
A lot of the earlier reviewers used pre-release hardware and firmware. The verge did for instance.
[One (M7) General] ant78:
A pick from one of my jobs today
[One (M7) General] smudgelab:
We weren't going at 88 MPH(!) but I didn't think these were to bad for a quick snap whilst in the car...
[One (M7) General] xsardax:
Photos are just amazing and fantastic. Still waiting for my One to come, but this is exactly what I look from a smartphone camera to be.

Also, is there still message "Unable to use flash because of low battery."??

Thnx
[One (M7) General] shox22:
So, a friend of mine (ossy1337) and me were out today and made some photos.

He is on 1.29 base and i´m on stock 1.28. We tried to get the most shots from the same perspective.

Some photos are made with hdr mode, some macro and the most are made with automode. Sharpness, contrast and saturation 0.

Ossys pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/be26nysph9c3zfu/Cw_dLaQ3Xz

My pics:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mwk79t4956jjrwe/-LJxQDrs6v
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
this has been the most useful post to those who are looking for 1.29 and 1.28 photo comparisons :laugh:

i suggest nick pin this on top of the first post

so far both bases has their up and down, but from what i can see, 1.29 direct sunlight photos are less washed out and less dark which is good, but the super low light photo is a bit disappointing. this can be due to the faster exposure time i guess
[One (M7) General] john291:
thanx for this great post..its very usefull;)
[One (M7) General] ossy1337:
Remember that we tried our best to make the shots under nearly identical conditions but maybe sometimes there were different points in the focus which can result in completely different white balance, so this is far from being scientific, but I think you can see the differences between those two roms.
[One (M7) General] -josh-:
Some random pics. Finally Lego city is released lol
[One (M7) General] john291:
The third picture is amazing how your dog looks through his eyes:angel:
[One (M7) General] pirateye:
not sure about 5s but definitely 6 :)
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
yes, the interior picture proves <insert member name here> i forgot his name, claimnig that the new base speed up exposure in extreme low light.

proven by the muddier picture on the 1.29 compared to the 1.28
[One (M7) General] Sebianoti:
88 MPH in the middle of the city? wtf?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
beautiful colors did you increase saturation?

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@Shox22 i don't visible difference between 1.28 and 1.29 at least not change to contrast and sharpness
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
It's a reference to Back to the Future -- the photo is of a replica Delorean from the film.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
auto enhanced
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Does the camera now suffer from too fast shutter speed? I have seen few photos and the shutter speed is shockingly short!!

Extracted from Chinese website. Notice the speed of one is just 10 times of S4 and Z. Serious bug if you ask me.

Want to know if it is software or hardware fault...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its not a bug, its a feature, HTC Image Sense cameras has the fastest shutter speed on phones

the speed is decided automatically based on the light
[One (M7) General] ossy1337:
Did not experience this and I took over 200 photos. I also can say that the One would not produce such underexposed pics.
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
But that makes the outdoor pictures so dark :( (which might be why most reviewers complain about it)

If the shutter speed can be made a little slower to allow more light to be captured. I'm sure the outdoor photos will blow away most competitors... Is there by any chance to increase the exposure time? I'm not sure how auto enhance gonna take care of pictures with such low light.

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That's the point. I have seen photos with longer exposure time than this on One. Not sure if it is hardware fault or software..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this is all wrong, even your claim of reviewers complaining about outdoor exposure is wrong

Expsoure is set based on focus, so setting it manually you get proper exposure if auto fails

the shutter speed is automatically decided

eitherway scroll through this thread there are tons of daylight samples for you to see
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Yeah it might be due to focus too.

One point I forgot to mention though, it's only evident in landscape shots. Low-light shots and macro shots are good.

Atm I will base it on focus fault then. Will try it out when I got mine.
[One (M7) General] sebsal:
I can assure you outside pictures are not dark. Don't know what's going on in that sample but it does not reflect outside photo's taken on the One. I know, I've taken plenty
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Good to hear :) That just got me worried for awhile, so I need some reassurance. Can't wait to get my One at the end of this month. :victory:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
most likely they relied on auto focus and it fail to set proper exposure and hence the dark results

if it's under exposed by the way, the detail is still collected and auto enhance can brighten it as well
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Reasonable, I never trust auto-focus too. Thanks ;)
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Gits
[One (M7) General] Napoleon_PhoneApart:
The qualities of a photograph depend as much on the skill of the photographer as on the quality of the camera.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
which is why i turn off autofocus
[One (M7) General] hennesch:
Didnt clean up,so please no comments xD

Gesendet von meinem M7
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
For a good idea of the kind of snapshots that can be achieved, it's worth looking at the Instagram feed of one of the HTC employees, Merlins4:

http://instagram.com/merlins4/#

Many of these are HTC One photos, and do a good job of showcasing the positives of the camera.
[One (M7) General] Fadakar:
Pall Malls? D:
[One (M7) General] hennesch:
yap :D
[One (M7) General] yokken:
Hahahahahaha I was going to say this! Yuck
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Just went to a party this weekend and blasted off some photos using the One. I think I got some really good quality shots - way better than my previous attempts. I was using backlight mode on the outside photo and thought it produced a much better result but see for yourself. Also managed to snag some Zoes which I am in love with now.

I realise there is only two, but understandably didn't want to scatter pictures of friends all over the internet without their permission.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Mmmmm peroni beer and your cat looks almost identical to mine.... good pictures too.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC really needs to deal with default contrast and color balance, it's putting down a great camera :rolleyes: both which were much better on the One X

shutter speed shining in your photos
[One (M7) General] slind:
I am not overly confident in HTC in general, but I am pretty sure that they will improve on the camera. -1 Sharpness does a great job, but manually setting saturation/contrasts looks totally overblown. Even worse than the Lumia 920. And I really don't like the Auto Enhance feature. :(
[One (M7) General] Iamnorthener:
Taken with - 1 sharpness

Ducks!

And auto enhanced
[One (M7) General] slind:
That's definitely one of the better Auto Enhance jobs.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Damn! it remembers of this video clip song with psycho ducks taking revenge on bad boy teens
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
who is willing to try this on the One ?

the One X has a special low light ability

if you enable HDR with auto flash, it takes took three shots, two of them with flashes, the flash does not wash out the screen with colors (unlike the standard mode) and the results are incredible

Shan89 also found a bug if you switch to night mode then back to HDR, the shutter speed will be stuck in slow exposure mode and the results are multiplied
[One (M7) General] b4kk3r:
That's a nifthy little feature. I'm also interested in the outcome.
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Wow! This is great. Just tested on my One X and the results are superb!
[One (M7) General] honorstudent:
pureview vs ultrapixel

hi guys! i dont know if this has been posted already.. nice comparison. the one is the clear winner. :)

http://unleashthephones.com/2013/04...a-lumia-920-vs-the-htc-one-camera-comparison/
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
In general the auto enhance feature of the HTC gallery can be pretty extreme and unnatural.

I mainly take pics at -1 sharpness, then send the image into snapseed, apply the auto correction and, if needed, adjust contrasts and colors while in auto correction mode. Then I go into detail and pitch up sharpness and structure a bit.

Does a whole lot better job than the HTC auto enhance feature in most scenarios for me.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lovely i loved the conclusion

yes Phone/GSM Arenas i am talking to you :rolleyes:

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you can save your correction in snapseed as a preset am i correct?
[One (M7) General] b4kk3r:
Very nice review indeed, with some impressive results. I do think however, that some pictures of the One (especially the ones taken in daylight) look a little overexposed. This is most likely as we all know, caused by the shutter speed.

For example when you take a look at the first picture: The one taken by the Lumia 920 may look al little darker, but you can see more details like the light column, which aren't as visible on the picture taken by the HTC.

It's the same for the third picture. On the Lumia's picture you can clearly see the small tree/branch, but it's a bit blown out on the HTC's picture.

All of this doesn't take away that the One outshines the Lumia in evening/nigh time situations and as well on the video part:cool:
[One (M7) General] robamacaf:
While I like SnapSeed so far the best Auto Correction app I have found is Perfectly Clear. Might someone with an HTC One take a pic and then run it through Perfectly Clear, SnapSeed and the built in Auto Enhance and post all 4 pics so we can see the differences?

Thanks guys! Keep up the good work. I get my HTC One next wednesday (Tmobile) and I'm very excited
[One (M7) General] slind:
I can do that later on.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Dunno if this was the best picture to use, and I know it will be compressed, but here is standard, auto enhance, Snapseed correction and perfectly clear
[One (M7) General] grukko:
ISO 252

f/2.0

1/20s

Blown away by the low light performance. My computer room is dimly lit by an energy saving bulb housed inside a tacky light fixture from the 70's.
[One (M7) General] robamacaf:
Thanks for that! I actually like the last one best. Specially over the Auto Correct. But maybe that's just me. I can't wait for this!!!

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Pretty awesome! You can even make out the texture of the pig and the strokes used when painting or glazing it!
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
While waiting in the parking lot yesterday evening I took a shot.

Was pretty dark already (as can be seen by the shop lights in the background). Manual white balance "daylight" selected, reduced the blueish sky tint a little.

I am pretty pleased with the low light performance outdoors.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
beautiful car as well :laugh:

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is the forth adjusted by perfectly clear? if so it's indeed the best
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Yeah, last one is Perfectly Clear. I've used it on a couple of other pics, and it definitely does a good job.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
It looks like a really nice app.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
quick comparision between stock image, perfectly clean and snapseed. all on auto mode, no additional enhancements or tweaks made.

image is my previous shot of the kia ceed at late evening with manual white balance to "daylight".

Stock Image

Enhanced: Perfectly Clean

Enhanced: Snapseed

Snapseed does some heavier contrasts, Perfectly Clean looks a little cleaner (darker areas are still visible).

What do you guys think?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes perfectly clear has a better balance

you should have thrown in stock auto enhance as well

but one thing is clear this camera given how it collects way more light, it is outputting photos with less "contrast"
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
There is a loss of detail in both of them. The grid pattern in the grill area just below and to the right of the license plate is only visible in the original.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ofcourse because to raise contrast you are cropping blacks, that's kinda of expect my friend :)
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Yeah, now that u mention it. There sure is some loss of detail, even tho the apps do add some sharpening filters.

Again a little plus for image clarity on stock image, therefore for the camera itself.

Tho I kinda like the "Perfectly Clear" image the most. Good thing we still can manipulate the photos with those given apps to our liking.

Still amazed by the One camera :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
too bad the device is so hard to get for many of us :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
You still didnt get the chance to grab one?
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
@ forredglory:

Unreal image. Is that right out of the camera or with post processing? That actually does look almost too good to be true.

Great shot!
[One (M7) General] forredglory:
Pure camera (with 1.28.401.7 software), no other post processing :)

Another Samples here: http://prohardver.hu/tema/re_htc_one_one_uj_a_nap_alatt/hsz_1903-1903.html
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Really amazing!
[One (M7) General] Mother_Gooz:
I'm really happy with the HTC One, but i don't get great photo's out of the camera

What do you guys think: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2aov7oqj9qtk3ql/-cHmrtD-nj

Im on the 1.28 firmware -1 sharpness

Some Images are enhanced Perfectly Clear
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
excellent photos :eek:
[One (M7) General] verminatorno5:
Here's a few taken in the sunshine this afternoon

https://www.dropbox.com/sc/pcid8ut1ksqr2gw/D374BoeudO
[One (M7) General] Iamnorthener:
-1 sharpness HDR

And
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
Looking forward to getting my phone tomorrow. I've had every iPhone and I am anxious to make the switch and my only concern is the camera. I've seen an incredible mix of great and poor shots. I don't mind having to tweak both capture and post-capture things as long as I get a great shot in the end. So, it should be interesting.

I will be taking a ton of photos this weekend against my iPhone 5 and will share. Thanks to all who have, camera matters hugely for me-
[One (M7) General] bleary:
I also had an iPhone 5 and I am still torn between the two.

The HTC in low light is unbeatable, that is for sure. The Zoe feature and editing functions, amazing.

However, "normal" pictures in good light are not a patch on other high end phones, including the iPhone 5...
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
I know what you mean. My friend who has the One says it lacks a bit in that departement too, but that it is so fun to use (zoe and quick shutter) and works in all situations that it doesn't matter. I feel the same will be true of my use even thou the best would be if it was the best in all situations. Let's hope software can fix some of it in the future and enjoy the things that makes it great now :)
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
Image 1 look perfect, what setting used on it?
[One (M7) General] jamiee6610:
Default settings
[One (M7) General] BlackS0ull:
from what I saw in the latest posts here with pictures taken with ONE, I can say that MACRO is very good, almost PERFECT. The problem is with pictures taken somehow in direct sunlight, or pictures taken outdoor. Anyway the camera results are very good, at least for my personal use on social networks. I don't know how the picture will be seen on a FullHD TV (example a LED from Samsung), but for sure I will not print pictures taken with my phone :) for that I have a DSLR :)
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Brilliant pictures of the PG tips monkey.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
I know....more of the kid....it's what I end up taking photos of most of the time.
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
Great use of Zoe there! At least I assume you used Zoe and then picked those shots out. The One can't be beaten when it comes to stopping motion at the exact instant you want.
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
AMAZING shutter speed (and cute kid of course;) )! Zoe or burst? Ok just got the answer below..
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
yeah, with a burst shot i probably wouldn't have caught it as well. zoe is definitely great for stuff like this.
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
Exactly what you should be taking pictures of. You are doing it right-
[One (M7) General] marmarm:
Is there any filter applied on the first picture? The ground doesnt look quite right....
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Awesome! Love the mud in the final shot. :good:
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Whoa, that's bizarre....I have post-processed but looked back at the original and that's how it looks there too. Maybe the OIS in action? Very strange.
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Camera is high on the first one.

But as people said; great use of Zoe! and quality is perfect too. Colors, details, everything!
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
First picture taken since I picked it up this morning. The lighting and tone of the camera is great- the detail isn't as good but I like the phone so much I'm already rationalizing how important it is (when zoomed really).
[One (M7) General] robamacaf:
Can you post one as the action shots where it puts 5 movement shots into 1 picture? I've only seen one of those posted in the HTC Promotional Video
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
I posted this in this thread on April 4th but here it is again, just so you can see :)

Sent from either my Nexus 7 or HTC One via XDA Premium
[One (M7) General] soapbubble:
No idea how this looks on a pc but it's not bad on the phone.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
It wouldn't with with this photo. You really need the subject to be moving across the frame so you can get more than one separate shot .
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Can you upload the full size version please
[One (M7) General] Kaichu:
http://db.tt/0IFDUoPW
[One (M7) General] soapbubble:
I clicked full size. I did crop the sides. Here's the original.
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Thanks!

This phone is just simply superb for macro shots!
[One (M7) General] soapbubble:
No problem.
[One (M7) General] cachookaman:
not really a picture but since there isnt a zoe highlights thread

[YOUTUBE]95CoUNp9xWg[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
More images from some pictures taken today with the new phone.

As an iPhone 5 owner, I think the HTC One camera is better in many ways but comes up short in some others. Mainly, the iPhone is far more likely to get a good shot as a point and shoot while capturing a great amount of detail. If anything, the HTC One camera has me really excited for an iteration that is in the next generation where a little more detail is captured. That said, what the One does capture is spot-on.

I've looked at other pictures and what I have found is that many of the poor pictures have to be from just opening the camera app and hitting the shutter button. If you take the time to use your finger to tap on the screen to adjust the focus, and more importantly the metering based on the lighting where you touched you have much control. The iPhone does this as well but isn't as sensitive (surprise, it shouldn't be). If you enjoy photography and don't mind a little setup with a shot this camera is a knockout.

In addition, captured photos appear to have a thin grey mask compared to other phones but this is because it grabs all of the subtle tones which means that you have a great source for editing / composition.

Most of the time, I run my apps through an editing program (Snapseed is my choice) regardless of the camera so I expect to do it with this one too.

Being able to crank out 8 pics a second at full resolution is potent too. 2-3 seconds with the shutter button down and 20 pictures are done.

Bottom-line : Don't let some of the samples fool you. I fully expected to be so disappointed I would return the phone and I'm not.

Finally - really enjoying Android and Sense.

R
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
These shots are amazing - I can't believe you captured those frames in the progression of him jumping into that! Soooo awesome! Also, I'm sure he had a blast haha - so cool that you now have that memory in a series of pics. Thanks again for those!

This makes me really happy to hear. I'm coming from the iPhone 5 and this camera's ability has been a make or break for me. So far I've been pretty torn, although, in the right hands I've seen some absolutely stunning shots! The pic of the first cat you posted looks absolutely beautiful (at least it does on my iPad - which is good enough for me).

I've also noticed a ton of people doing what you mentioned - opening the camera and hitting the shutter. A lot of times it misses the focal length ever so slightly. My iPhone notoriously does this in larger (scenery) photos when someone else uses it. I have made it a habit of never taking a photo without touching the area I'd like the focus to be - in my opinion, everyone should get in that same habit. Thanks again for sharing your opinions and photos - appreciate it!