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[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
seems to me it focused pretty good, not as out of focus as the hox. on the hox, everything became totally blurred.
[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
Yeah it's kind of a problem, on my old XL it still has option to focus manually (disable autofocus) but since the One X they removed it for some alien reason, if i remember correctly this is the case for the One too.

To work with this you can either switch to Macro mode which help the device focus faster and it will always try to focus at at minimal distance first, it worked for me on my One X, well at least better than the default Normal Mode.

Or you can download some alternate apps like in my case camera FV-5, it has a macro mode that always lock focus at the minimal focus distance. But 3rd party apps never give you the best photo color/saturation like the native camera app.

edit: still you're lucky with your Evo because it has a 2step camera button which allow you to lock focus....not like the One X,
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Ok, I've come to the following conclusions after playing around with the camera on the 1.29 base. Maybe someone can let me know if they agree.

1. The threshold for the flash is much lower, it is now firing in light it never used to.

2. The shutter speed is higher in average/poor light without flash. I was dropping to 1/7s in average light whereas now I get 1/10s more often.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
so do u think it is a good or bad update?
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Well good, in theory. You should get less motion blur in lower light with the faster shutter, and if you want to slow it down any further, you always have night mode.

Haven't had enough of a play yet to be entirely sure though.
[One (M7) General] mikeyd85:
Server Room - One heavily diffused light at back of room. I can't believe how bright this image is. It's nowhere near that light in there. No flash.

Ginetta G40 - Mid light warehouse. With flash.

Dragonology - Directly under an energy saving bulb that had been on long enough to get to max brightness. No flash I think...

Pi Pie - Took it ages ago! I can't remember!
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Anyone have a good idea for managing zoes. They are hidden in gallery. Checked DCIM folder in solid explorer and I have over 2000 zoes !!!! I only got the phone a few days ago. Oh and I wouldn't turn on drop box auto download !!!! It's a photo managing nightmare here "((
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
Yeah, I heard it, and it sounded super promising, but from what I've seen with my own eyes, the iPhone 5 usually takes better pictures. I won't make a final decision on the camera until I have one in my hands.
[One (M7) General] john291:
I hate to say this but this is true...:(
[One (M7) General] subhumanderelict:
Are you talking about when you try to focus on the One vs. the One X?

I’ll have to try one of those apps, thanks! Yeah, I’d like to use the native app over any 3rd party app, so hopefully someone will be able to add this functionality later on and post it here on XDA. The EVO adds a couple of fairly nice features (camera button, kickstand, and MicroSD slot), but the EVO has pretty bad LTE reception compared to other phones and I like the construction of the One X better.

I wish there could be a camera sub-forum here so people could request specific shots. Could anyone post macro shots like the ones I took on my EVO?
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
If there is one thing I think we can all agree on, it's that this phone takes some smashing macro photos.

Here are a few more, just for the sake of it. The 3rd picture uses portrait - just thought i'd give it a blast for the fun of it really.
[One (M7) General] subhumanderelict:
Those are pretty good, thanks! However, I mean REALLY up-close shots on relatively small subjects, like these:
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Can we focus on more normal photos and less macro photos? I mean I think this is what people need to see more about camera rather than macros.
[One (M7) General] john291:
We already see here on this thread that the normal photos are not that great...

So i think we all know it now..

I also wished it wasnt true but there are many other aspects of the phone to love...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
And we have shown tons of normal photos that are mind blowing as well so hold it there sport with those generalized comments

Do you want to see them again?
[One (M7) General] john291:
Sorry but its the truth..

I have ordered this phone also..and i have to live with it..

But for the rest its a great phone...

It has many other things to love...but sorry its not the camera....

So i wil keep my order and see if i can live with it...

But this is going off topic again...share more pictures what the topic is meant for..
[One (M7) General] stesa:
ultrapixel ? i'd say infrared

compared to my fabolous xiaomi mi2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So hold on

So far this phone takes amazing indoor and low light photos, amazing macro and motion photos

What's left for your "normal" category?

If u mean outdoor daylight I promise you will take back your words soon :laugh:

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Preaching to the wrong audience my friend

Good stuff are being ignored and niggles are being magnified
[One (M7) General] john291:
Hello thx for your reply..

Yes i mean outdoor daylight ....;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Check the camera guide in my sig as a hint for my promise

But for now

Explain to me what's wrong with this

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40223584&postcount=1040

And this

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40219699&postcount=1023

Believe me you wouldn't see this on any other 4/5MP phone
[One (M7) General] stesa:
outdoor daylight are poor , you have a point here
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
Take a look at this article, has some good photos.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...nt-smartphone-this-year-may-also-be-the-best/
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Oh well, I think Ultrapixel camera can't be worse than my One S anyway. I'll just buy this piece of beauty.
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Just my two pence summary of how I feel about the ultrapixel camera if someone perhaps is wondering whether they should buy the One but are put off by all this Ultrapixel talk.

At first, I was a non-believer about the camera, but after getting familiar with the camera's settings I think my fears of it being subpar are subsiding. Got myself some random shots that I feel are comparable if not better than pictures I was getting with the iPhone 5 and just the low light performance on this thing is just great.

For me, sometimes I can't always get the perfect shot all of the time, but I am sure with upcoming software updates that will probably and hopefully be a thing of the past.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
From the Android Police review (http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...nt-smartphone-this-year-may-also-be-the-best/):

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/nexusae0_IMAG0145.jpg
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here you go
[One (M7) General] ant78:
The new cis building in Manchester on a dull morning ;)
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
just wait for the copycats :D

they didn't have time to develop ultrapixle sensors, it was just unexpected.;)
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Feel more confident in the One cam again after seeing the stunning pics in the Androidpolice review, compared to the mediocre shots on gsmarenas comparison. Still can't believe how different the camera performs in different reviews.

Skickat från min Transformer TF101 via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you mean these? :)

Now the question is do they exhibit the same traits of the HTC One camera? and the answer is yes, at 1:1 scale so there is no "better sensor" here

you can see the same oversharpened default setting and bright shadow areas, but when you view slightly downscaled these images rocks

like the reviewer said, is exactly what i have been saying, the camera is versatile able to do great in all situations and this what makes this camera so special beyond anything else
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Yeah! Especially nice to see really good outcome in full daylight.

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I said it before and I am saying it all over again, I want to updgrade from the One X i so love

just for this camera alone

As far as I am concerned, personally, i couldn't care less of random users fail to get good results, I know i have the knowledge and skill for a good photo

and so i have no doubt in mind this camera will be put to a good use once i have it

this is a good tip though

anyway don't you see a pattern here? we show some great samples taken by good users and you are all impressed, a moment later some users struggle and post lousy photos and you guys worry again and then the loop starts all over again, its like we need to keep feeding this thread with good photos and every thing posted before is being forgotten :rolleyes:

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no no im pretty sure we will get either "boo the reviewer is not credible" or "its the aura/soul of the forest resulting in these good photos, has nothing to do with the sensor"
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
That's why I just stopped commenting and proving. I'm now a silent reader for this thread :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
to be honest I'm at 99% of becoming a silent reader as well
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
Ok this is the second bug I've come across - the first being with Zoe. In this one, if I'm selecting to crop any pic with people's faces in it the crop overlay forces you to crop the faces ONLY. It will not allow you to crop the overall pic. Can someone else try this on their phone to see if it's just me or a general problem? I'm on firmware 1.28 btw.

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[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Have replied to your first bug in the other thread. The Zoe clip needs at least 13 images. If you have 20 to choose from, you can choose 13 and the other 7 won't appear.

This is on 1.29, didn't check on 1.28
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
I've added a screenshot - hopefully it's showing.

As regards zoe, I can't see anywhere that it needs AT LEAST 13 clips... Just that the max is 13.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Well it needs 13 from what I've found
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Ok, here is my take. But under not so good conditions.

It is a very cloudy / grey / rainy day today, well at least this morning here in germany, but well, I took 4 shots and tried to maintain almost the same angle.

All cropped down to 1280px, running latest 1.29 firmware.

Shutter speed has increased significantly and images appear sharper and in normal mode a little more vibrant IMHO compared to 1.28.

First one is on "normal" with sharpness -1 and saturation +1

It is actually quite vibrant.

Second one is on "normal" with only sharpness -1

Quite natural and good contrasts

Third one is with HDR

quite sharp, a little too much for my taste. but it has nice contrasts

Fourth one is with ZOE

Surprisingly its really accurate for a very quick shutter speed
[One (M7) General] john291:
I like also the zoe its best..

Strange it looks so much differend vs the normal mode...

The colors are more accurate
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
HDR seems to be somehow broken. There's much more dynamic range in the first pic.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Yeah, that was what I thought.

To be honest, most of my best captures I actually really did with the ZOE mode. ZOE takes a good amount of pics and has a better focus for most scenarios. Plus, color correction on ZOE seems way more natural.

Plus, it gets quite hectic scenes pretty sharp, surprisingly.

Had to "censor" our ash tray (yeh i smoke, shame on me. Its the black circle) out of there. It actually kind of destroyed the general image. Have to place that thing somewhere else.

This one I did two days ago. Our cat was very hectic and active and with "normal" i wouldn't have had the chance to capture her like I did with ZOE. For those moments, ZOE mode is a blessing and really shows how fast and at the same time sharp and clean the One camera shoots. You can see she was actually really active on her right pawn, ready to jump off and run away again. Shes quite old, but still surprisingly active ;) Plus she was moving her head to look around really fast, couldn't stand still. But even then: Focus was really good on the eyes, image is quite sharp. Really awesome.

Done with the 1.28 firmware. 1.29 firmware produces even better colors / contrasts in ZOE mode.

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It may seem that way, but more "vibrancy" is not equal to more dynamic range.

The HDR Image actually looks alot more accurate to the real deal than the "normal" image which gets enhanced with more vibrancy.

I like the vibrancy, i am more a colors type, but for most of my images I really prefer the natural colors, and thats where HDR / ZOE step in.

Didnt have that vibrant colors in 1.27 / 1.28 as far as I can remember. Maybe HTC reacted to some moaning and added some post processing, like almost every other manufacturer out there (especially Samsung and Nokia).
[One (M7) General] john291:
thats good news..

Maybe there is something wrong with normal mode settings because zoe looks better...
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
In early reviews I remember how One's HDR was praised as the best HDR around. After firmware updates reviewers are dissapointed with it.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
NAAAAH! Sorry guys!!

The first one actually was really with "saturation +1". I was dumb enough to forget I set this up for some little tests yesterday evening. Usually I dont touch my settings so I was sure it was just -1 sharpness.... :( :rolleyes: :eek:

Good thing is: Normal mode with just sharpness -1 produces quite a good image. At least in my opinion. Very natural, good white balance and contrast. A little less "overbright" (so to say) than the ZOE shot, which still is really accurate considering it is a mode where alot of pictures are taken in quick succession.

Original post updated!!

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Well I dont think that my HDR shot looks washed out and/or overexposured. It is contrasty, but not overly unnatural or blurry... :eek:
[One (M7) General] john291:
Lol that looks much better thx.....

Could you make some more pictures please...

Best regards..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Don't bother with John mates you can shown him all the samples in the world, he will be impressed n then slides back into hopelessness again

It's like everyday we hit reset with this guy :laugh:
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Well, I will still post one of those hip macro shots ;)

It may not look tasty, but it is. My breakfast today :D :eek:

Used snapseed for automatic correction. Didnt do that much, tho. Still really clear and sharp. Love how much detail that "4MP / UP" camera captures.

Totally satisfying for my needs :)
[One (M7) General] john291:
Sorry to say but i only give my honest opinion..

So if its bad then i comments its bad and if its good i let that know also..

So i be honest and i am not trying to search for something good in a bad picture like you sorry..;)

I know you want to ....because you ordered the phone but you must keep it real please..

And i work every day in photography so i know what i am talking about...

I was trying to research the faults in the camera...

But after your opinion i wil stop my research..

So people on this forum can thank you..;)

Thx....From our research team...
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Aw cmon, dont take this too seriously. hamdir sure was messing around. ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hahaha you crack me up man and ur post is non sense

you did conclude firmly just yesterday the camera is not good in normal photos

as for me I work in CG since 15 Years so know my pixels and frames, I got my thanks for actual hacks, mods, work and research, most importantly for my proper critic and not trolling

everybody nagged all the same about the desire HD camera, which was a legendary smartphone camera afterall
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Ah well mate, you cannot satisfy everyone.

Todays demands are actually higher than some technology can achive, especially with expensive smartphones.

I still find it amazing how good those smartphone cameras actually are already. Such photos from a device that small / thin. And I am totally satisfied with the amount of detail the One captures.

Sometimes taken photos need some adjustments, but everybody in the photography and cg industry enhances their images afterwards, even if its just slightly. Thats what apps and programs like snapseed or photoshop are there for.

I work as a graphics designer as well, since like 10-15 years. I am no good photographer, but I know my drills in photoshop and image enhancements. And pushing single pixels around is my job, plus keeping an eye out for subtle details.

I guess we both think alike when it comes to the One camera. Sure, it could be a little better maybe, but the One cam sure is one of the best right now...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this camera will be as legendary as the desire HD camera, flikr will flood with it's photos and groups coming from people who actually know how to grab a picture

not random kids who want to go "oooooooohhhhhh nice colors" when they take a blind photo of their backyard

anyway I'm clearly loosing my patience so like the OP I'm done with this thread, I did my part
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
my post wasnt against you, bro. i was actually agreeing with you... :eek:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no I wasn't replying to you, I read yout post after and thanks for it
[One (M7) General] john291:
:victory:

could you please stay on this topic please..and not attack someones opinion and research....:(
[One (M7) General] omersak:
I'm not satisfied with the HTC One but i'm always objective and, regarding the camera, I have to say - the HTC One's camera is the best i've ever used on a cell phone by a long, long, LONG way.

Honestly my iPhone 5/Note 2 etc. are a easily an entire class or two below the astounding camera that's on the one. No hyperbole.

Give the HTC One to someone who even has a vague idea of photography and he'll make it sing.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Indoor-Shot with poor lighting.

Normal mode with -1 sharpness
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Normal

Sharpness -1,

HDR,

Sharpness -1 with auto enhance,

Sharpness -1 Contrast -1

Sharpness -1 Contrast +1 on 1.29 base. I still think HDR is best for outdoors if you can get away with it.
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
That slide (among other light stuff) is completely burned in first two. :eek:
[One (M7) General] john291:
Hello could you please make the second picture again with the conrast on -1 please..

Best regards..
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Yeah, I purposely put it in the photo because it would be difficult to get a shot of. It's a fluorescent orange and i was focussing on the back fence.

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It looks TERRIBLE with contrast -1
[One (M7) General] john291:
sorry i meant +1;)
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
have updated the post. should be noted its a fairly grey day.
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
How are some of you on firmware 1.29? Shouldn't firmware updates be universally rolled out?
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
It's not a true 1.29 update for our devices, it's a mixed rom with a base from the 1.29 U variant rom.
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
Sorry forgive my ignorance but I understood none of that! I'm coming from iOS where all of these updates were universal and simple!
[One (M7) General] john291:
Sharpness -1 with auto enhance

I like the Sharpness -1 with auto enhance
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
It's basically a ROM from a GSM only version of the One. We should get a proper update soon, it's just something for the flashaholics to play with.

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Yeah, that and HDR are defo best. Sharpness -1 with auto enhance would be best to get the most consistent pics though I'd say.
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
re

And sorry to re-quote my own quote, but does anyone have a comment about this bug with the cropping? Does anyone else have an issue?

These little bugs are really starting to grate with me. :(
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
OK, well your first Zoe bug isn't a bug....it's how it works. I explained how you can select the images you want.

Regarding the cropping, just click on the face you want to start with, then drag out to whatever size you want. I agree, it's not the best way of doing it, but you can crop the pic to however you want.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
With a little sun I really like the outcome.

Its not perfect, but still pretty awesome for a smartphone cam.

Again, normal mode with -1 sharpness

(Sorry for the same motives at the moment, I am stuck home since we have some ppl over for a visit. So that boring backyard is the only comparision and test place right now ;) )
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
After seeing those images, I really don't understand what is the fuss about outdoor shots. They look quite good. And HTC One has a dominance in low light anyway. And especially if you are a video guy, One is the best phone around.

Overall the camera is good enough. There'll be loss of details at some point if you want to take BİG and detailed pictures but who uses a smartphone to take big shots.

By the way;

Can someone show us the wonders of frontfacing camera? It looked soooo promising on HTC adverts but noone puts shots from frontfacing camera.
[One (M7) General] shakmax:
Yes thanks for the zoe bit - will have to make sure I have more than 13...annoying though.

As for the cropping, again, thanks for explaining. Just tried it and it does work, but boy is it the most convoluted way of cropping! I mean if I want crop faces I can still achieve that from an overall crop overlay. Doing it from the faces outwards makes a 5 sec job to something like 30 secs at least and close to 1 min. I think I'll do any cropping in snapseed from now on. Jeez what a pulava!
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Here's a couple I took earlier on 1.28 base with sharpness at -1 I think.

The first one is with macro.

Although there are apparently camera improvements on 1.29, does anyone know what these actually are? I haven't seen anything more specific
[One (M7) General] john291:
Nice car:)

The macro shot is very good..

But the normal shot is very noisy...look on the road at the back of the car.....

but keep the picures coming..;)
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
I have a feeling that the shutter speed is a bit faster, and the threshold for the flash to fire is lower
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Yeah thanks I don't know what happened with the second one, it was light too. Maybe the car was too bright as I had just cleaned it ;)

Here are a couple more I took a few days ago. Still need to have a go on 1.29 now that I have TrickDroid on.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
noise is normal in very low light photos
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Hamdir: Pretty sure the reason companies slap as much automation on digital cameras to prevent people filling the web with images that are terrible yet tagged as coming from the equipment the company spent millions working on BUT, has no-one worked out an app/patch that removes alll that automation and presenting an interface that mimics a celuloid SLR camera.
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Thing is, it was bright sunlight so nowhere near low light. I think the brightness of the car overpowered the road, HDR would probably have been better

EDIT: The sun has gone in now so just been out and took a couple more. Does Dropbox compress photos? I'm uploading from there.

This is 1.29 so not quite apples and apples, more like Granny Smiths and Red Delicious. The second one is HDR
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
lol the hdr.

hmm, i dont expect every camera to be perfect, after all, it's a smartphone.

did u use manual focus or auto focus? auto focus tend to be very dark. when manually focused, the wb will change
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Just autofocus