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[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
Yeah i guess you coudnt get any closer too, but at least clean the lens or change the white balance, if its the same lighting then maybe auto whitebalance's not working very well in this case, the watch looks much nicer in warm lighting.

i highly doubt so as not many people actually noticed this. The phone still took awesome photos in macros and other conditions anyway :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and all the photos on this thread are lying to you? ;)
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
The camera is poor if you just whip it out and hit the shutter button unless the lighting is bright and uniform.

You HAVE to tap to focus and meter the shot.

Just how it is :sly:
[One (M7) General] jtheogr:
1.28 macro everything auto

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so if you manually have to set your exposure/focus makes it poor? :rolleyes:

i have never relied on auto focus in any smartphone i have ever owned

im not too lazy to select my own focus, if you have any idea of photography you will know expecting a perfect shot by "whipping" out the camera is just crazy
[One (M7) General] born_fisherman:
AT&T stock 1.26 firmware still...auto everything. Yes I finally caught this beast!
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
What would be amazing would be capturing that little fella in flight ;)
[One (M7) General] Raintitan:
Greats pics showing off the low light performance- another part of our lives we can capture now.
[One (M7) General] yokken:
some photos of my dinner at a german restaurant last night! quite pleased with them. this is definitely the foodie phone. 1.29.xxx.3 firmware (dev edition). stock settings, default sharpness etc.

http://i.imgur.com/5kMxa9f.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eOtEjZA.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/zgSYQ5T.jpg
[One (M7) General] born_fisherman:
I sure tried! It haunted our house for a couple hours today.

So what I love seeing in pics is water detail, and obviously the camera is stellar to pic of the droplets of water on that soap dispenser really nicely.
[One (M7) General] Apoxx:
I'm starting to think my camera is broken. The pictures are horrible and full of noise.

Dev edition, .3 firmware.

http://i.imgur.com/CJRwrDu.jpg
[One (M7) General] rovex:
The point is people haven't ever had this much trouble before. Spin it however you like, the Ones camera needs setting up, other smart-phone cameras dont. The very pictures HTC say the camera is for, spontaneous, fun pictures for social networking etc, just don't come out very good.

No one is expecting a 'perfect' shot, they just expect the One to give then a shot that's better than a camera from 6 years ago. For quick, spontaneous shots, it doesn't because its automatic modes suck.

I agree that it CAN give great shots with planning, but for planned shots id use a DSLR, for random, silly shots id use a phone.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Fair enough, still doesn't warrant it "this camera sucks" label

Even in the scenario you describe how hard is it to set your focus manually? Plus for many people this is exactly the camera they want
[One (M7) General] ZION959:
Cactus flower
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Did you try sharpness -1?
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
The One is also one of the only camera phones, if not the only camera phone, that allows you to get "quick, spontaneous" shots in low-level lighting conditions where other phones just outright fail, or rely on using a much slower shutter speed.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this camera will go under-appreciated simply because it doesn't give you "ooh colors" from the get go

the shutter speed in all scenarios is worth the asking price alone
[One (M7) General] john291:
That one is indeed terrible:(
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Agreed. Problem is the camera is so realistic of colours that its not pleasing to the eye as other competitors who make colours stand out in snaps which looks nicer. The fact that when you press the shutter button it takes an instant still picture of even a moving object is amazing.

My S4 cannot do this even in sunshine
[One (M7) General] rovex:
I agree it has its strengths, but people REALLY need to consider if they suit their usage before buying it.

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Its awful, but it is on the older software, which we know is bad.
[One (M7) General] john291:
Didnt know it was on the old firmware..

I hope he can me a comparison with the new firmware...;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Awesome confirmation from someone with an SGS4

Waw even in daylight? Do you have both phones?
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Android Police, why aren't especially Samsung friendly, are saying the S4 camera is the best out there, even in night mode..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The even with night mode thing is just hilarious, read Anandtech's review the night is incredibly slow on the s4, the auto night mode they call LLS is basically multi captures HDR and much slower than the One's HDR, if you use the One's HDR at night it will slaughter everyone

Anyway I'm done with this argument, I said it before and I am saying again for some reason everyone is so easy on Samsung, to simply ignore the shutter speed angle of this discussion makes it fruitless

Back on topic,

For those who have issues with focus, you can try Touch to capture (camera options), saves you one step
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Different firmwares? It seem the fanbois are quick to right off the S4 while giving the One a pass, even though the initial firmwares on the One were rubbish. Smacks of double standards.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No HDR is slow especially when dealing with 13MP, the reason if the shutter speed on all the HTC One devices is the dedicated ImageSense chipset which sits right next to the image sensor

And to fake HDR as a real night mode is actually bad as it is

We blamed contrast and color calibration on software, while you are blaming hardware abilities on software
[One (M7) General] rovex:
What matters is output, and despite the best attempts on here im not seeing the S4 getting beaten. In the real world its seems like a better compromise than the One, which seems to be either great or awful.

I am very impressed by my best friends humble One V, but frankly its giving better images than my One most of the time, and that just should not be, and yes im running the .13 firmware.
[One (M7) General] kenny17430:
Macro shot is really good with the HTC, using firmware. 13

Default setting and auto enhanced in gallery
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No what matters is a usable shot and usage conditions, we have already posted tons of comparison where the s4 gets smacked at night and indoor light, like I said shutter time and low light was the only thing missing from HTC greatest camera on the desire HD, you've been singing the touch and go priority, without a quick shutter time you can't have touch and go!

If you like the one v photos more this confirm that all u r missing is a contrast and saturation push, you want a digitally messed with image
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Keep up man ;) I posted on this and other threads relating to ones camera and build quality. I got rid of the one due to lack of storage (26gb!!) And average battery and also poor build e.g dead pixels and gaps.... camera though I am missing and even considering adjusting how I use my phone and getting the one again but that means me sacrificing battery life which is a biggy and storage which I can prob manage but its gonna be a hard decision. .. if it was just down to camera then I would have kept the one but there is so much more :(((

Regarding s4 camera . If your taking stills in well let areas then yes camera is better which is obviously because of mp but htc and the kodak guy who helped develop the camera knew what they were doing eh. Htc nailed it because most of us including me use our phones to capture that quick shot like...wow quick get a snap of that. So if thats what you need tye one is the best camera there is.

However it comes down to this for most people I guess... are you willing to tie yourself into a 2 year contract with a phone that has average battery life and only 26gb of memory ? It is a difficult one.
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Ah yes your default position that if we don't like the Ones output it must us that's at fault. :rolleyes:

Ive got news for you, i actually reduce the contrast and saturation in most images i take with the one, so there is that theory debunked. The reason i prefer the One V is that i can actually see what it is I took a photo of! The One just products badly focused and poorly resolved images for my usage. Manual focus or not.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Welll u saw the photos in this thread and if ur phone is failing to achieve proper focus u must have a defected lens

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64gb? Newer batches have those gaps improved like the unit I reviewed as for battery I'm surprised, everyone is praising the battery, dead pixels is just bad luck i never saw one with dead pixels
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Ive seen SOME good photos, which indeed I have managed to take myself (so it cant be the lens) and ive seen some hideous photos. Its the phone, all of them, not my phone (my third by the way.. how many more chances should i give them??) or anything I am doing or not doing or shouldnt have to do. Its just not consistent and that makes it unusable because it cannot be relied on.

While it may be able to out do any other camera phone sometimes, if it cant be relied on to produce a decent shot most of the time, then what good is it?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Can the other owners of this camera help us here? Really you make sound it such a horrible camera and yet this thread proves you wrong
[One (M7) General] rovex:
This thread doesnt prove what you think it does, it proves there are both good and bad pictures, which is exactly what I said.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Lets stop this we clearly cant convince each other, I'm just wondering why don't you follow your heart and switch to the s4 already?
[One (M7) General] john291:
pictures

Can we please share the pictures again in this threat...

And enjoy the pics;)
[One (M7) General] rovex:
My heart is with HTC, its my head thats telling me to switch.
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
As has been said plenty of times, and has been proved time and time again in this thread aswell as other threads, on standard settings the phone takes good photos. With a little user effort to change the settings around for optimal effect, this phone takes amazing photos.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Do it man, only then you can really tell which is better
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Only because if anyone posts a bad picture here certain people jump on them and accuse them of user error. Its a phone camera, it shouldn't have user error, even most point and shoot dedicated cameras should just work on auto. All i see on here is excuses, excuses, excuses.

Im simply offering a counterpoint to the relentless, overbearing praise for the phone and criticism of the users.
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Hamdir where can I buy the 64gb version in the uk. ??

Custom Stock Rom 4.1 Eternity

Brilliantly Stock
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I don't know, you don't have it yet?

You are aware that SD storage has high latency right?
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Nope . Us gets dev version. Uk gets nothing :( I doubt us phone would work here ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
LTE might not work, how about other European countries ?

Anyway this discussion is best left at the mega thread, lets not derail this thread
[One (M7) General] john291:
Hello these are taking in zoe mode?

And on what firmware you are?

Those last two pictures are zoomed or not?
[One (M7) General] Apoxx:
Yup, that picture is taken at sharpness -1
[One (M7) General] jtheogr:
essuhn Mrs.

This foto is normal mode and sharpness -1 , i try with macro mode but with normal the picture is better.
[One (M7) General] -josh-:
Taken in normal mode the second to last photo is zoomed. Firmware is 1.28
[One (M7) General] john291:
Thx for the reply...

A nice example of the realy fast shutter speed....

And with the new firmware you get even a more better picture;)
[One (M7) General] stesa:
just another *****
[One (M7) General] john291:
nice *****:D
[One (M7) General] foxy4270:
Although i'm a Sammy fan...i have to admit those low-light shots are amazing.
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Lol. MINO SALVATO ??? what does this mean ?

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Amazing pic of dogs moving !!! Really clear.
[One (M7) General] backfromthestorm:
http://youtu.be/Bld-M4zPzKo

http://youtu.be/iOKr6xsb-cg

Just a couple of first gos with Zoe.

But what i was surprised about (and annoyed) is that the video highlights dont start in order of when they were taken, you have to keep shuffling, and trying, and shuffling until you get it somewhere near chronological order, hopefully one of the devs will make that an option in the settings, along with much longer highlights than a meare 30 secs. (LYAPOTA! Where are you?!).
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
You know what also is very annoying. Use a file explorer and check dcim ;) you will see many many pics if you use zoe. Gallery hides em. Loo
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Hey guys, just curious (since theres been soooo many topics discussed in this thread since the beginning) about the right side blur a lot of guys were experiencing. Was that fixed in a newer update? I don't remember if we all came to that conclusion or if guys were returning them.

I'm on1.26 and I've been noticing the right side blur even when perfectly still (or propped against something to be nearly 100% stable).

I'll post pics when I get home.
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
HTC One has a wide lens, it is normal to see some blurry sections that are not in the focus point.
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
I understand what you're saying but I'm not talking about focal points/length, there was a legitimate issue in early models and I don't remember if it was software or hardware related. (I'm going back about a month or so ago)
[One (M7) General] Reckless187:
This thing was Huge! Was craving a Mixed Shawarma after watching Iron Man 3...
[One (M7) General] gusto5:
Went out for some sushi tonight!
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
Some random pictures from my dev One.

No settings were changes.
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
Another one
[One (M7) General] born_fisherman:
Is that an Edwards Pie?
[One (M7) General] muayyadf1:
Yeah :D
[One (M7) General] jdh10475:
Taken normally back road outside Austin TX.
[One (M7) General] born_fisherman:
Lol.. good stuff

Taken with my inspire tho :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nice samples here

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjespers/sets/72157633361121579/
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
Some continued mixed feelings here:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/review/120573-htc-one-camera-review

Pocket-lint was v positive about the phone, but negative about the camera....
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Out of the phone, just resized. Took it yesterday on a sunny day. Impressive sharpness and details, considering that the branch was moving constantly due to some wind. Really nice shutter speed and accuracy.
[One (M7) General] john291:
that one is amazing....

What were the settings?
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
All default, scene set to macro, sharpness -1.

Oh, and with latest Firmware. 1.29.401.13. TrickDroid 5.2.1
[One (M7) General] john291:
Thats indeed not so good...:(

But with what firmware was it?;)
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
This is my grumpy cat... she's actually relaxing like a baws, but always looks pissed off while doing so. did some shots of her and added the text with pixlr express ;)

clicky for full images
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
I've been playing with my one for a couple of days and must say that highlights are really great :). Really nice way of sharing and viewing parties or other events. The camera is really fast and fun to use.

I have one question thou that maybe one of you here can help me with. If I create an album and move some pics there they are no longer availible in the default "Camera" folder in the gallery. That's all right, but if I want to move a pic back from the album I created I only have the option to move it to another album created by me. I just want to move it to "default" folder or "camera" folder or something. How do I dealbumize a pic ;)?

Anyone have an idea how to do this?
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
I think this commenter responded to that review better than I could:
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
I agree -- it's odd as the HTC One review on the same site thought it was a great handset.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
reviewers are really sub bar these days...especially when it comes into "making their homework"

they never do and hence whatever they right is always missing vital info
[One (M7) General] john291:
yes got one

I couldnt take it anymore the waiting on my phone.

today i drove to a store and bamm there it was:laugh: A new htc one..

I Just took a quik picture.....there will be more...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Awesome!! Finally enjoy your new beast bro
[One (M7) General] mettleh3d:
Mini hourglass on my desk
[One (M7) General] -josh-:
Lol sorry for all the dog photos but I think he's beautiful.

The first few are of him running and I think the one performs very well on action shots.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
You never need to apologize for dog photos!
[One (M7) General] slind:
Only used Perfectly Clear once.
[One (M7) General] john291:
Thx man....

And wow i love the sound from the speakers...

By by galaxy s3

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Wow great picture.

What is Perfectly Clear ?
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Though do you mostly follow HTC owners :p

I think people are just more 'sure' of what the new Samsung Galaxy phone will be like.....and perhaps slightly disappointingly a lot of people will already be buying it without caring what it's like simply because it's the new Samsung Galaxy phone.....I hate to say it but there's lot of sheep out there.....I should know, most of my friends and family are among them......'Oh I want the new iPhone'.....'why's that? Is it really good?'......'of course it is, it's an iPhone'........the same example can be used for Samsung phones as well, literally buying it without knowing or caring what it has to offer (I've literally had this conversation with nearly everyone I know that isn't tech savvy, I am not just bashing blindly)

It's funny actually. My wife currently has the absolutely shocking Blackberry Torch and is due an upgrade. She instantly said she wanted the new iPhone. I questioned why she wanted this and she said because it's the best phone. I then proceeded to tell her how it really wasn't the best but of course apple is a trusted brand and that I'm sure she wouldn't be disappointed. Since then she's started looking a little more but since her sister blindly bought the SGS3 a few days ago after being told it was the best phone she could buy my wife now thinks she wants that instead. I have informed her that although the S3 is what I would get over an iPhone she should look at the HTC One as I'm convinced it'll actually do more things that she'd be looking for.....She isn't interested in it however as she doesn't really like the look of it....Though I'm convinced it's because she hasn't seen it in any flashy adverts or been told by 99% of her mates that it's awesome!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no but i follow all major tech sources as well

as for your wife, shame she would miss out with such mentality

but i agree its the majority :(

i will never understand why does advertising equates better for people....or even worse, price
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Re: [PHOTOS][POLL][14 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

Yes it is difficult trying to convince people to look further than what is shown to them. Unfortunately the masses seem to be brainwashed to believe everything they see on TV.....
[One (M7) General] nebulaoperator:
Not surprised it is true. I am a bit into gadget and spend a lot of time before I buy another phone and tons of adverts doesn't work for me rather than actual ton's of reviews and forums like this one.I witness many times friends of mine bought things that are just aware and I knew how bad is after sale support and after telling them that they still go and buy it and some time after they ask me why is that not working properly and so on.One thing I am very curious about is : How big is minority of us who cares about what they buy invest they time and effort to learn about product in numbers? These days there are hundreds of techy/gadget websites that give a lot of information about smartphones and I am sure a lot of people (minority) follow it. I am also wondering if manufacturer's care about us and what we say what we ,,scream,, about...do we get noticed by them at all?!
[One (M7) General] go0gle:
The only time Samsung used their own custom image sensor was in the Pixon 12... since then they've been using off the shelf stuff, and I don't expect that to change with the GS4.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Believe me, we are not many :p
[One (M7) General] nebulaoperator:
That answers a lot. How ever I would think all together 1.000.000( All brand techy followers )
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Re: [PHOTOS][POLL][14 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

There are never that many......
[One (M7) General] nebulaoperator:
I would gladly read statistics on that matter . I might be wrong .
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Updated with these:
[One (M7) General] slannmage:
The verge put the HTC one's camera up against the iPhone 5, Lumia 920 and Nexus 4.

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/14/4105028/verus-the-best-smartphone-camera
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
USA Gizmodo's review samples

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gizmodo/sets/72157632998220209
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: [PHOTOS][POLL][14 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

Thanks I'll update op soon. These new photographs are way better than the ones that were clicked with the pre release software
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
[PHOTOS][POLL][14 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

They are no doubt much better. Honestly at first I have it a rating of 7 because I wast impressed at all. Now the photos coming out recently are looking really really good. I can't wait!
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: [PHOTOS][POLL][14 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

And the worst thing is that you can't change your vote :p
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
Exactly, I would definitely be giving it a 9 now no doubt. Don't know why the first set of pictures out were so unimpressive. Guess pre-release hardware and software can make a big difference Can't wait for the One to come out in the states. Must have it soon. :D Don't have the phone to match the signature I just made a while ago. :P
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Updated OP with Gizmodo pics
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
I have always given the one a 10/10 and thats for camera/video and video audio
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Looking at the photos clicked from pre release software, I foolishly gave it 8. I want to change to 9 :crying:
[One (M7) General] john291:
What a nice dog:)

Was this taking with the latest update?

Best regards
[One (M7) General] slind:
You can edit your photos with this app. Imho it has the best allround auto-enhancement functionality to boost your shots a little. A free alternative would be Snapseed.
[One (M7) General] Machiavell1:
Malinois?
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
These flowers were blowing in the wind.
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Any thoughts on this guys? Here are the pics with the right side blur I was talking about. The pics of the tree were taken on 1.29 firmware (15 min ago) since I flashed TrickDroid earlier today.

Doesn't seem to happen every single time but nearly every "Normal" mode shot I notice it on. I noticed it on the first pic of the tree and then actively was as absolutely still as I could be and it still happened.

I'm thinking it's a hardware issue. :( Thoughts?