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[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
but the problem is, your criticism is invalid. the photo clearly shows the lumia lack details compared to the one.
[One (M7) General] TRiBaL1981:
Exactly. And since you insist it leaves as no room for doubt over trolling.

P.S. Even in good light they cannot compete. I would never PRINT a photo taken from a phone.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
With the first, you have HDR on so you can't change the sharpness settings, I've just looked into it myself and the custom settings are locked off.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup

and yes we are wasting our time, i'm not convinced with objectivity claims

last attempt, before i saw, cropped and compared the samples myself, i was nagging like everyone else about loosing my One X 8MP camera for the "superior" detail in big light

now? i can't wait to have my One camera, i am super happy HTC decided to give us a proper camera instead of the One X/iPhone 5/SGS 3 like "i will enhance/mess it for you but you have no real control" kind of camera

The combination of low light and hence indoor abilities, extra sensitivity, fast shutter, macro and HDR skills, gives us a very versatile mobilecamera

Those who like in your face dool inducing point and shoot results ONLY in daylight ONLY at distance go for the SGS4, it wins that side of the angle HANDS DOWN, even more the S4 has superior color balance, so there you go, you know your options make the call without the FUD, just remember the very narrow view angle on that one ;)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Me too, I was a bit worried about loosing my HOX camera as we've all said how it was THE BEST camera in 2012 no doubt!

If I could record it to show you I would but I ran a test yesterday, with the HDR.

I got my One and my HOX, set both to HDR and then took a picture on each at the same time at the same target.

Sweet Jesus! The One was crazy fast!, I had enough time to take two HDR shots in the time that the HOX was 'Processing' the image from it's first shot.

The One image looked superior too imho.

I'll post the pics up here a bit later on via Dropbox for you to look at.

---Added---

I set the alarm on my One to use lastnight, it scared the cr@p out of me this morning, it was halfway across the room but Boomsound made it sound like I was using my One for a pillow.

And the alarm tone is Uber gay...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ah i was concerned which has better HDR results, from the results i saw i prefer the One X so please do post them

as for the speed, that's news to me, i never knew HDR is actually faster on the One, guess due to the faster processor and being 4MP after all

eitherway its excellent news!
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Plus the extra 1Gb RAM!

It is silly fast, I didn't realise it had taken the picture the first time I used it as I blinked when I took it and missed the 'processing' notification.

I'm uploading a video to Dropbox I just took on my HOX of the One taking a few HDR shots, once uploaded I'll share it here :)

---EDIT---

Here's the link to the video.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/67227549/VIDEO0035.mp4
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
So I've had the HTC one for a day now and it was actually people's posts on this forum and anandtech's review that prompted me to buy it over the S4.

The camera was a big niggly point for me. After playing around with the camera, I am getting a lot of hit and miss photos - saying that I am no professional photographer. Some look good and some look so off focus - I am hoping to take some sample photos and post them here to see what people think.

By the way, what's the degree of compression like when they are uploaded to dropbox? When they automatically upload and I check them out on drop box, they seem quite grainy and I am wondering if this is because they've been compressed.

I can't seem to replicate some of the pictures I've seen on this thread, which by the way look pretty good.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
we covered a lot of this, try auto enhance or increasing the contrast, also reduce the sharpness a little

finally never rely on auto focus and set your focus manually, this is why you are suffering hit and miss focus issues

one more thing for those who like auto focus, such issues will most likely be dealt with the software updates cycle
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Thanks for the reply.

I had previously had a tinker and knocked down the sharpress and bumped up the contrast to +1.

It most likely is an auto focus problem. I'll change it around and see what results I get. Thanks!
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Wow, the "Contrast" adjustment made a huge difference in one of their examples.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sigh i've been telling you this non stop, but depends on the situation sometimes it makes it too dark

anyway the article almost echos my exact words
[One (M7) General] Hudrator:
I can remember.... Really good and complex.

But we have so many new features in the software since the time oft DHD hit the market. Sure there are many parts you just could copy and paste....;)

Time for a little Update ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes that's my point, i will, this camera deserves such attention

once i get my One :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
dropbox has compression. best is upload the raw photo files into public folder, and paste the link for download here
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Wait, Dropbox's auto-upload compresses images? Since when?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
https://www.dropbox.com/help/8/en
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
Huh, interesting. I wonder how much this actually impacts image quality, if any. I should compare sometime.
[One (M7) General] mchinand:
None. I think you missed the "without any loss of data or quality" part of the quoted section. They just use lossless compression during transfer to their server to reduce bandwidth usage.
[One (M7) General] fidelcstrl:
Can you guys please take a look there : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40187576#post40187576

Maybe it could explain why the quality of my pictures simply isn't that great.
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
I think I see what you're talking about. If you can see "something" under the lens, send it back.

Edit: Lol - I'm an idiot and didn't zoom the first time. Definitely looks like something on there. I would send it back.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

Thanks, updating :)

Edit: Updated
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Night photos are certainly brighter than any other smartphones cameras but it's noisy as hell!

Remembers me of my first bridge camera with a 800 ISO (I think the canon S2 IS)
[One (M7) General] SkuterPL:
Thanks you.

It's very nice. Finally is 192Kb/s :D

Very nice sound.

I must have this phone :D
[One (M7) General] deagleone:
AW: Share photos clicked from HTC One

hehehe fully agree...

one'ed...
[One (M7) General] BoneXDA:
The brightness is mostly software related like with the Lumia 920, but it also means the raw capture is good enough so it can deal with some post-processing. Personally I love my results untouched with natural noise pattern, saturation and details with minimal compression, denoising or sharpening. It makes enormous difference if you compare Oppo Find 5 and Xperia Z samples, both using the same Exmor RS sensor, yet the Chinese model smokes the Japanese original.

I'm impressed by the One's video quality BTW as the noise pattern suggests there's minimal afterwork, but I think there's some brightening going on with the night shots and some heavier denoising then sharpening with the bright day results do dome details are lost.

In any case, it'd be awesome to have all samples posted at full size so our trained eyes can analyze 'em, and if possible, I'd like to see some Camera Zoom FX captures as in my experience that gives the rawest quality. Anyone willing to test that? :good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]Ipbbqgdu8sE[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] rdp330ci:
I haven't seen a single picture posted yet that was even close to being decent. Everything is smeared, out of contrast and atrocious color.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
smearing and digital edge processing is easily reduced by setting sharpness to -2

well known fact on HTC devices

contrast and colors, i agree there is an issue with current color balance

was much better on the One X, currently they are too warm

as for the noise and light, massively better than most smartphones out there
[One (M7) General] rdp330ci:
was cadsuc

With the release date being so close do you feel they can tweak the phone software or camera?

Also, I have been reading about removing or downgrading the jpeg compression....I am assuming you have to root to do this?

thanks
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sharpness -2 is an option in HTC camera

jpeg, yes needs root but can affect the speed fo camera
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Most of these look really good, thanks for sharing
[One (M7) General] go0gle:
From engadget's review

http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/HTCOneSamplesAndComparisons.zip

One

808

One

808

100% crop

808

http://imgur.com/a/dbzm6

One

http://imgur.com/a/eBmOk

808

One
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

Colours are so real in the first photo of HTC one

In the second photo 808 wins

In the third one wins

:beer:
[One (M7) General] go0gle:
^ actually... its no contest in all of them. The 808's color reproduction can be easily corrected by adjusting the white balance in the settings.. you can have vivid/saturated colors, or.. more neutral.. whatever your heart desires :D
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Poll added :)
[One (M7) General] Hayatte:
camera performace comparison can be seen from technobuffalo's site. htc one was compared to BBZ10, Droid DNA, iphone5, nexus4, galaxy nexus, galaxy note2, galaxy s3, xperiaZ, and Canon 5D MArkIII. here's the link

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/12/htc-one-vs-latest-smartphones-camera-comparison/
[One (M7) General] limestar:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

How about a Zoe? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZf_kwfyP6Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[One (M7) General] BoneXDA:
UltraPixel vs. PureView review

http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/13/htc...arison?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[One (M7) General] Hayatte:
i persoanlly think that the One lost to Lumia920 there. But i can see that it gave 920 a good fight.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys remember how eerie the One images looked similar to the DNA in TechnoBuffalo comparison? :)

seems the images were wrong and they re-uploaded them! massively better, Xperia Z full scale detail fail again

TechnoBuffalo: HTC One vs. The Latest Smartphones – Camera Comparison

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Gizmodo Review

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except the blur with low light image that the 920 always produces thanks to its slow shutter speed

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by the way after finally seeing Engadget's full size samples, the JPEG compression amount is fine with files reaching around 1.5MB
[One (M7) General] Matt:
Seeing general all-round image improvement on the new 1.29 base :) More detail, less blurry smudge areas, if that makes sense. Pictures have less of a grey tint. Everytime I move the camera it re-focuses and the OIS can cleary be seen in action with a little wobble during focus :)
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Silly question, but is there a way to check to see if my phone has the software update for the camera?
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
If you go settings, general, about. You should be able to see what firmware your on
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Would be nice to see a direct comparision. ;)
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Another stupid question perhaps but as my software number appears to be an old one '1.28.771.7' and when I click to search for software updates and get told that my phone is up to date.....How do I update the firmware to latest???
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its impossible to do a comparison after you flashed a new firmware

but if you can post some new photos especially daylights it should help us analyise improvements
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Where did you flash the new firmware from.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Yeah, where´s that firmware from. Thought the latest version was somewhere in the 1.28 range...
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
The new Firmware is "Android Revolution HD 4.0 Beta" based on a future HTC 1.29 RUU. It's without LTE support, tho. And paid apps cant be installed yet, but Mike announced a patch for today to fix that issue.

People who flashed that ROM with 1.29 RUU reported better image quality on fotos, focus fixes and a proper working ZOE mode as well.

Its on the ARHD IRC chat, not here in the forum for now.
[One (M7) General] Matt:
There is LTE support on EE in the UK, and any other network which uses the 1800mhz band.

Any requests for what to take photos of?
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Ok, but nevertheless LTE support on that firmware release is "crippled".

I dont really care since I dont have a LTE plan and dont have any need for it yet. ;)
[One (M7) General] Matt:
I suppose, since you can't turn mobile data off without losing 4G when you turn it on :p

Yeah, same I'm on O2. 1.29 hasn't fixed Zoe mode for me btw, unfortunately :(
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Bit OT is 1.29 leaked firmware?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just few outdoor photos to show the improvements you mentioned
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
sorry I've missed something here, not been following this thread as closely as I should.

Do the LTE One's take different photos? :confused:
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
GSM Arena has a comparison of the new firmware it seems? Though it doesn't state 1.29 I assume that's what they're talking about

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_software_update_improves_camera_performance-news-5759.php
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Old deprecated news!
[One (M7) General] Matt:
No that's an old update from 1.27 to 1.28
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
So here are some pictures I took. All these are took with -2 sharpness and +1 contrast.

The first image is ISO 100, the second ISO 200, the third AUTO ISO and finally HDR.

I don't know whether I should be worrying about whether my camera is a bit funky. it seems to me every picture I've took is full of noise.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
it looks out of focus
[One (M7) General] stesa:
sort of macro
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
speechless :eek:

can i tweet it?
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
Oh wow. Amazing! Thank you for this one!
[One (M7) General] stesa:
of course you can ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sorry i forgot to ask it's sharpness -2 am i correct? :)
[One (M7) General] stesa:
no , only macro
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
freaking awesome insane shot

thanks mate :good:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
It's beautiful
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Downscaled:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I don't think that picture is sharp enough...
[One (M7) General] stesa:
with the enhancing from gallery is even better

the original file

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61800751/2013-04-12 16.13.55.jpg

the enahnced one

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/61800751/2013-04-12 16.13.55-1 - Copia.jpg
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its a perfect macro shot the focus is at the reptile, the front and the back are both out of focus

its called depth of field :p
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I know I was only joking :)

It's a beautiful picture, one of the best examples of the One camera to date!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I actually prefer the authentic original

but the second contrasty in your face punch is exactly what many complainers expect...

the dynamic range is burned with auto enhance though so we need a middle ground
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
That's what I think as well, but for some reason that's how my pictures are turning out. I'm debating whether this is my doing or in fact a dodgy camera.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
he was joking! :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
So I thought I would try out more photos.

Just an observation, but when I tap to focus, it brings the scene into a nice focus but then it kinda comes out of focus slightly. Can't really think of the best way to explain it. In these shots below, the focus was the eggs.
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
<Neo>

...whoa.

</Neo>
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
your focus worked in the last two
[One (M7) General] fidelcstrl:
Hey, I know what you're saying. It's like once you've taken a picture, the focus just ...go crazy for half a sec, then focuses again.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sounds like exactly the kind of thing to be fixed in updates (maybe the imminent 1.29)
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
Precisely! This is baffling. if I turn the phone on its side and take a photo, the quality is like the first two, but if I keep it portrait the phone focuses well and produces a decent photo.
[One (M7) General] fidelcstrl:
Random picture :

https://www.dropbox.com/s/elq3r9yalsh2uzk/IMAG0082.jpg

As you can see, it looks quite good for a 4mp considering the amount of details it has to capture.

Though it doesn't look really good on the sides, that's probably caused by the lens on my phone being dirty on the inside. I'm shipping the phone back for replacement.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
thats the exact problem im having on my one x now. i cant seem to focus near objects, it focuses into nice and crisp, then blurs again
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes but what's wrong with the sides? if you mean the random side blur its an issue when OIS sometimes attempts to counter your movement, its well known and not a bug

i see nothing wrong in your photo, like you said it shows how much detail this cam can captured at 4MP, perfect example

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well known on the One X and supposed not to be there on the One

but he described its different based on the orientation

seems there are some bugs with the focus, most likely to be improved in updates

u dont want to know the 920 focus issues on launch...mostly improved by software
[One (M7) General] Matt:
New base inside. Hates the pink flowers, either too saturated or not enough.

First is night mode, second is normal, third is saturation -1 and 4th is normal.

These don't seem very good actually.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
lol, i'd practically ignore anyone who tells me the 920 is good. everytime i pass by the nokia store and i see people checking the 920's camera out, i'd pretend to talk to my gf, bro , friend whoever that's with me that the 920 is actually pure bullsh** software gimmick crap. and i made loud n clear lmao.

hopefully this focus issue is not on the one tho, it gets really really nerve cracking. still waiting for the one to reach my country ..

cant wait to sell off my hox for good
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HDR?
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
did you manually focus on the flower before snapping?

auto focus tend to be unreliable
[One (M7) General] fidelcstrl:
Well I guess that if THE Hamdir says it looks good, then it looks good :laugh::good:

My biggest concern was the upper left corner. Image there seems to be a bit pinkish, but sun was coming from that direction so maybe a bit of a lens flare effect.

Anyway, the phone is going back for warranty. I have plenty of digital prints on the inside of my lens and I'm pretty sure it messes up the photo quality. Taking photos at night, there are a lot of artefact (like lights repeating themselves). Plus I know discovered a visible bit of dust on the inside of the lens too ! (visible when putting the phone lens against a surface, so the whole screen goes black but the small dust bit. And it's not dead pixel as it's "moving" when using the zoom slider).

Can't wait for a firmware update though. I should get the new phone by the end of next week, if the update can be released by then that would be perfect (yes I know I'm dreaming :victory:)
[One (M7) General] Matt:
HDR, flash, weird funky combo.

Yeah I'm tapping to focus.

Don't take these as good beacuse they look awful but it's the best I can get of this flower? :/
[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
it's natural, objects with harsh red-ish or blue-ish color are very hard to capture on camres (im not saying it's impossible)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no because you missed the most important mode for this

MACRO

anyway ive been saying it since day one, the color balance is off and it was definitely better on the One X
[One (M7) General] Matt:
Macro. Just doesn't like red, and it's dark in here now.

Sent from the Boomsound Beast
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
How close to the darn flowers are you shooting? Seems like the focus is on the flower leafs a bit in the back of the arrangement. Maybe you're a bit to close? Just a thought...

Skickat från min Transformer TF101 via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
Well I'm glad the rest of this phone is so amazing. The camera looks more like a sidegrade from my Nexus 4 than an upgrade. I need an HTC One with an iPhone 5 or Galaxy S4 camera!
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Here's a picture of my cities cathedral with I took earlier.

That was with all my settings at default.

As you can see, it's nowhere near the quality which this phone can do.

So, even though I know someone has asked this before, could someone post a guide on how to optimize the One's camera please?
[One (M7) General] gtg465x:
You can try setting the sharpness to -1 and the contrast to +1. That's what a lot of people are doing.
[One (M7) General] fidelcstrl:
Your picture looks quite good. Unfortunately it's a bit small to appreciate it fully.

Maybe you should try some HDR with such lighting conditions (refering to the sky being surexposed). Or maybe try contrat +1.

Also make sure you focus manually.
[One (M7) General] stesa:
must have been lucky , i'm happy with my One camera
[One (M7) General] Silellak:
You should listen to the latest Anandtech podcast, where Anand says he was carrying both the HTC One and the iPhone 5, and ended up using the One for photos way more often.
[One (M7) General] subhumanderelict:
This is kind of what I was asking about earlier in this thread:

Take this picture for example:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/qdivygjha3fwo01/IMAG0465.jpg

That spider was about 1cm from the end of one leg to the other and walking on a pane of glass. When I brought my phone up to it, I tapped on the spider in my viewfinder, and it would adjust the focus but would quickly go out of focus again because it couldn’t lock on such a small, up-close subject.

What I had to do was bring my phone to the floor and focus on the wood grain. Since the EVO LTE is basically the One X with a two-step shutter button, I pressed the button halfway to lock the focus on the grain from about 3in. away, then brought the phone back up to the spider and pressed the button the rest of the way.

My big concern with the One is that this kind of focusing cannot be done, making shots like this impossible. I’ve heard references to focus-locking in this thread, but it seems to be only for video.

Other examples that REQUIRED the focus lock:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/8kmd9224zt1g68s/IMAG0919.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mycdbjbfuyznqm0/IMAG1580.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wa93ke3jaargnnn/IMAG0671.jpg (the flower was less than 1in. across)
[One (M7) General] Dannehkins:
A lot of my photos were took in my flat so the lighting was all artificial - not much light gets into the flat. So when I was on my travels, I decided to take some outdoor shots with what I can only say is a more pleasant picture than what I was previously getting.

Still though, some of the pictures people have posted on here are amazing and I am still waiting to get that one amazing picture to put my fears at rest. My finger also makes an appearance ha.

The first three photos are took in daylight at ISO 100. The pictures of the cars were took when it was getting dark. I was messing around with the ISO's at this point so the first is 100, second is 800 - don't ask - and finally the last one is 200.