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[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Lol !!! Drunk and didn't realise I didn't paste it ;)

http://m.blogs.computerworld.com/android/21976/htc-one-camera

On a side note rang 3uk yo upgrade and the sales rep on phone basically said the htc one is slow and old now ? Why would you want that. Buy the S4 its newer and better .. he wouldn't say a good thing about the one... sammy are obviously paying commission per pre order... He even said look at tge market this phone will be forgotten about !!! What chance does htc have if no one wants to sell it. Decided to order from here http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/yourdeal/?_cid=73039041 £26 a month unlimited with t mobile... anyone know what t mobile are like ? Also decided 32gb will be enough if I manage it well ; )

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
try again mate i would like to see those :)

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yea i keep hearing such stories, appalling

@djbenny1 excellent photos :good:

you know reviewers are simply cropping areas at default sharpness 0 and comparing it to other devices, which makes the camera results look "horrible"
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
A bit of a random shot in very low light

The a piece from the oldest surviving new testament AD125 taken at the John Rylands Library Manchester
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and before everyone cries it looks bad

he did the unforgivable and used digital zoom? :)
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
I'll give it a go.

Sharpening -1, contrast +1 vs HDR

Failed to upload so I'll dropbox them:

http://db.tt/blPk2nbA

and

http://db.tt/iQmdVd94
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
Yes I had to it's the damn thing which annoys me about the one . It's dreadful !
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@ipmanwck the grainy images are caused by confused ISO it seems according to the interview

but he fails to respond about the aggressive processing/noise reduction question

to be fair people are being confused since its called

sharpness 0 and in fact its not zero at all

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digital zoom is always dreadful...on any device
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Just viewed the images on laptop. Seems I had the shakes. My bad.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea the non HDR is fine

but the HDR you confused the hell out of OIS lol

still i find HDR on the One X better made

as for your normal photo, looks great considering the sun, seems contrast +1 is a little aggressive it killed the shadows :rolleyes:

best to leave it at zero and use auto enhance if needed or manually control ISO

i think the latest firmware (1.29?) solves the ISO/grainy trouble
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
Only epic fail about the one ... Everything else is good bu zoom bad :( yes agree most devices digital zooms are rubbish glad I have my Nikon slr and Samsung galaxy camera.

I think HTC should sort out some camera issues on next firmware release
[One (M7) General] satfun123:
blurred photos...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
did you just ignore the entire awesomeness in this thread??? trolling?

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digital zoom can not be fixed, its a 4MP Sensor, even on 8MP it is horrible, never used it in my life
[One (M7) General] satfun123:
The user posted last 2 images are not clear photos..

HTC One has good CAM but not good if u edit...
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
It is quite possible to take horrible pictures even with $4000 full frame DSLRs.

Even pros cant take great pics every single time. You'll always have crap pictures whatever the camera may be.
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
I accept the images were pretty crap. Comes from being out in the cold and shivering my tits off but it was more about showing how much detail was actually captured in the shaded parts of the image.

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Some noise on the sky: http://db.tt/0m4sw1V3

A couple of problems stitching a panorama: http://db.tt/EQCfEay7
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
This is what most people tend to forget. I can hand my DSLR to many people and they produce horrid photos - then they blame the camera. Like hamdir has been stating, with a little knowledge and adjustment, this phone

has proven

it can take some amazing pictures.

If you want something to pick up and snap a photo, never adjust or even think about, buy an iPhone.
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
iphones also take tons of crap pictures. mostly people put creative filters on them and share them on FB etc.

Its not like fashion photographers are using iphones now to shoot for glamor mags and all. All you can do with cellphone pics is to put them up on your FB wall or flickr. Its only going to be select few, if ever, that will get printed and that too in reasonable size only.

But this is not stopping people from flaming the one camera by blowing the pixels and feeling proud about it. But as the HTC Imaging guy said, every digital image has a breaking point.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
haha so true, i dont have a DSLR but a decent bridge camera and i would say i delete at least 75% of my photos straight away, the rest may not even be that great lol.

for anyone who's interested: My Flickr
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
I have fond memories of the 80's

What I have noticed one side of the pic is always bright

I've a new replacement coming tomorrow as I've hissing when trading videos . fingers x one of the new stock
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
The camera is superb outside

Manchester's nuclear free zone statue which is actually funny because we would be the first to be hot in a 3rd world war (think it's idea was we won't allow nuclear weapons to be stored in Manchester)
[One (M7) General] arknailed7754:
Got my black one today :)

No changing anything on this
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lol i can slaughter the image quality on this one

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7245/7290945634_8e225564df_o.jpg

if i crop it, its more horrendous than the HTC One stock sharpness 0 full crops
[One (M7) General] jonathan_phang:
Hi all,

Note: All my test One photos are HERE if you want to see all. This is the non-auto-enhanced folder.

Not managed to take to more as I have been a bit busy over the Easter holidays but I have a few more to show, starting with a few macro ones:

Bubble on my jumper

Coral

Er...a tree

Bits at a wedding

More bits - the odd colour hue was due to overhead heaters in the barn where it was. Tough to get the right colour temp, but the light was pretty low, so not bad.

The following was taken as my boy started to come down the slide. Impressed with the clarity as he was in motion - there was plenty of light though

Overall, still liking the camera, it can only get better. These were all still sharpness = 0 so need to try out more -2 ones as there is definitely too much processing going on.

Apologies for the big photos - done them inline direct from phone and not sure you can hotlink direct from a dropbox pic?

Jonny
[One (M7) General] arknailed7754:
Guys I know this has been covered bit theres a lot of pages.how do we enable auto mode again?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Photos captured by Shox22

Software Version is: 1.28.401.7

completely default values, ie: sharpness, contrast, exposure, saturation: 0, ISO auto

at full scale they exhibit the usual over processing, like i said, sharpness -1 is highly recommended and for the pixel purists sharpness -2 is a must

but one thing for sure you can not FUD this camera ;)

DropBox
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
I actually like overprocessed, sharp pictures. I will keep the default value when I get the phone.
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Goes to show htc really need to educate people if they want the camera to succeed. its obviously much better than others due to lens and ois which must make a difference.

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[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
yea youre right. a lot of my pics i mess with in picasa to get them looking more "real", this usually takes away from the quality though.

maybe i should be able to shoot them "real" without picasa, but im still only really learning manual and I don't get that many chances to practice these days!

my biggest mistake is usually forgetting to adjust iso, cant remember everything :(
[One (M7) General] Kaichu:
http://db.tt/oEQw30ea
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Anyone know if well be able to get the images stored in Raw format eventually or does the hardware always compress them?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Incredible photo, this thread is now officially rocking :laugh:

As for RAW the answer is no but custom camera mods can get close
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Small lowlight comparisson with my HD2: (one automode, one nightmode, one hd2)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bqr19ggmueyoqpv/56YH46t7Hp
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Due to stock I am not seeing mine till week commencing 08/04/2013 :( could of got it earlier but not at £26 a month !!!

Loving the photos all. Amazing so happy I chose this over S4 main reason is camera and camera app.

So to clarify when taking stills I should use -2 sharpness ?

I will take this opportunity to thank hamdir. You sir have helped make my decision which was not an easy task ;) Thanks bro.

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Sharpness -2 for pure photo quality without edge processing but you might find them soft when downscaled, so the next best is -1 but I strongly advice against sharpness 0 which is seriously aggressive
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Hamdir our guiding light ;) lol. Off topic but how are you finding battery life. I wake up at 5am and come home at 5pm. Hoping it will last.

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[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
With moderate use it will last the whole day. Eg : some surfing , calls , game , text etc, by 5pm you will have around 40% left
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Usually also watch you tube and 2hrs of film on SGS2 with 1900 batt. Am sure it will last ;)

Found this video on the camera https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXVioLDhU0&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[One (M7) General] townay:
http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=566&t=3290031&last=42869747

The last few photos without the 'htc-one' bottom bar are right out of the phone for comparison.
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
What are they comparing the 3 stills from?

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[One (M7) General] joslicx:
Another rather long interview on HTC One camera with the director of special projects at HTC

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/03/htc-ultrapixel-interview
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Here are 2 shots from me from this morning. Taken in the office kitchen with really bad light conditions (only pale morning light came in through the window on the right).

The brighter one is with HDR, the darker one with -1 sharpness and +1 contrast.

Only thing I did was scale it down. Pretty damn awesome for a smartphone camera if you ask me, considering the bad light condition.

PS: Coffee was quite good, thanks for asking in your mind ;)

EDIT: Did a bad resizing job... images should show better now.

EDIT 2: One more, from a more sunny time ;)

EDIT 3: Man, that image compression doesnt do the camera justice. In fact, those images look noticeably sharper when not uploaded to XDA. Maybe I need to link them externally later on.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes amazing camera, pitty it was reviewed by morons...

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incredible...

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i am buying this phone for its camera, that is the very main reason

believe me guys coming from my single piece unibody One X which i so love, i have some reservations about the new design and i also have reservation about 1080p gaming on a smartphone

i was looking at my photos taken since my HTC Desire and honestly i took tons and tons of photos using my Desire HD thanks to it's authentic results but not my One X which was great but the camera had serious limitations in indoor/low light, the One X is a lot more similar to the iPhone camera, manipulated unreal results

but this camera, its showing wonders, its true photographic power in your pocket, and you guys helped me test it which cleared every bit of doubt ;)

now the only question is when the heck will it arrive to my country!
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
Well, alot of reviewers say the camera is top notch for a smartphone camera. But most pre-judge the camera by its 4MP resolution and therefore, dont do the photo capabilities justice.

Some shots actually DO look bland if you dont know how to setup your software for the moment.

Plus, sometimes its just good if you add a slight photoshop touch on it (mostly color correction / levels), makes the images quite attractive.

I was suprised how little adjustments most of my images needed to look really nice (have a couple more here), and that really makes that camera shine.

Most photographs you see out there, even with DSLR cameras, are photoshopped for more vibrancy or contrasts. And there's nothing wrong if you do so to enhance your photos you did with the smartphone camera. The device takes surprisingly good images for such a small device and lense, and captures surprisingly many details, considering its "just 4 MP's" ...
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
Battery life not a real problem.
[One (M7) General] trineomorph:
The only problem I see with the camera is the lack of detail/sharpness. To me, the HTC One takes the most natural looking pictures I've seen on a smartphone. Its color saturation, hue and contrast always seems perfect to me whenever I see comparison pics from other smartphones.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

Forget the guy, ignore the post. Looking at his older posts, I conclude he's a Sony Xperia Z fan boy
[One (M7) General] go0gle:
From what I can see, the One is on Nokia N8 levels.. in good conditions, which makes sense for the most part.. the N8 shoots @ 1.75 microns and the One shoots at 2.

The difference being that the N8 has a 12Mpix @ 1.75 and the One has 4Mpix @ 2.0

And I don't know what their marketing team was on about, but this is no where near what the 808 can do.

That being said, all credit to HTC to finally break free from the megapixel race and try to really look at what improves image quality.. its not the count, but the size and the quality of the pixels that matters most. Optics and jpeg processing are also important of course.
[One (M7) General] kultus:
it cannot be...maybe in low light but not in normal use...I have N8 with camera mod as spare phone now until I will buy HTC One or SGS4...and Im able to do 2x digital zoom almost without loose of quality 1,5x zoom is like optical and when I watch at it on fullHD TV there is no quality loose... when you downsize N8 photos to 4Mpx it cannot be compared to the results from HTC One...nokia N8 is after 808 the second best camera EVER!!! no sony, no SGS no iphone can compare the results with N8 and I tested most of them even from samsung i8510
[One (M7) General] SkuterPL:
Hello,

Can anyone who has HTC One, record video when music is very loud?

Thx
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
try to auto enhance the first ;) from the One X gallery
[One (M7) General] deagleone:
AW: Share photos clicked from HTC One

hehehe...

one'ed...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The verge review camera samples

http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/11/4087754/htc-one-sample-pictures

i found them excellent, the reviewer found them mediocre
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Update with lots of pictures, more coming soon :)
[One (M7) General] SkuterPL:
please some video :)

Not youtube, only orginal version.
[One (M7) General] sorasky:
I am trying to pick my new phone from HTC one and Xperia Z

The only thing i am worrying is that the camera quality

HTC gonna loss with sufficient light, but how about under low light condition, if HTC gonna win or the XZ
[One (M7) General] mgfjd:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

I agree. I take pics with friends at the bar, parties, etc. Scenery sometimes.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Didn't get what you mean. Please elaborate :)
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Check the OP, there are some low light comparisons
[One (M7) General] arknailed7754:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

Just to comment. The picture of London looks awesome. I'd expect that quality of a camera. Doesn't match up to a DSLR. But after all its not meant to lol
[One (M7) General] go0gle:
What I meant is that it seems to be close to the N8 in certain conditions, I didn't say it was better. Considering the size of the pixels they are using, It has the potential to be on the same level as the N8 when the sun is out, and even at night.. HTC need to tweak the jpeg processing a bit more...

And when you say downsize a N8 photo down to 4Mpix, are you using Lanczos or some other fancy algorithm ? Otherwise you won't really see any improvement in image quality when you downsize...
[One (M7) General] SkuterPL:
OK, I will try write this better :)

Can anyone record any videos by HTC One? and next upload without any compresion (not in youtube, because they are compresing all videos).

I would be glad, if someone records video in loud area.

I hope you understand me now :)
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Yup I understand you now :p

i'm sorry but I dont have the device yet. Maybe someone with the device is kind enough to to that
[One (M7) General] deagleone:
AW: Share photos clicked from HTC One

Ill give u some uncompressed "elac" stuff in the next hour

one'ed...

Edit said

dark but loud!

money

stranger
[One (M7) General] MicroBerry:
Re: Share photos clicked from HTC One

A couple I took over the past few days
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
Is this result with Wifi or Mobile(3G) network? what was your brightness level? when did u turn on or off battery saving feature?
[One (M7) General] joschi1985:
AW: [PHOTOS][POLL][21 March]Share photos clicked from HTC One

Still loving the low light Performance in the Club
[One (M7) General] mancuk29:
like your choice of club :)
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
The only negative thing is the pink spot on whiter backgrounds
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup its captures sub pixel detail a lot better, the thing with megapixels

when you increase them in a tiny size they loose accuracy, this is why the ultrapixel camera is capturing subpixel detail like we see in distant tree branches a lot better than an 8MP or 13MP phone, so like i said

as for tweaking, tons of apps on the google play store, like snapseed
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
That was with WiFi and 3G active all the time. GPS turned on, powersaver is always active. Screen is at 50% most the time but was at full bright for the couple of hours I was out and about with the camera active.
[One (M7) General] Try4Ce:
It would be interesting tho to see if there are significant differences between stock sense camera and the "improved" one in the trickdroid ROM. Changelog says "increased camera quality".

Haven't rooted my device yet so I cant test it out right now.

Would be awesome to get even more out of this lovely little device for image capturing.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
Here's some photos I took yesterday on my stock Vodafone ROM. Sharpness 0, -1, -2 and HDR. Am now on Trickdroid, so will try to take some more today, although can't take them at the same location.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/kqzi8wle8a5angt/M65JVu9a_x
[One (M7) General] rovex:
Personally im finding that the camera takes some work to get right. It certainly CAN take great shots, but its not just point and shoot. I have faith HTC will improve it though, they always do. Right now im not that impressed, its no match for even a 6 year old Nokia N95 (although little is).

Its not at all bad, but I still find shots taken with Camera JB+ are better than the stock HTC camera app.
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
Shutter speed

Hi all!

I think one of the biggest upsides to a very light sensitive sensor is that the shutter speed can be faster. In many reviews they set the cameras on a tripod and take pictures. Thats fine for looking at grain and color reproduction etc but it doesn't take in account real world use of moving subjects like children, pets, or people just not standing completely still or you not beeing completely steady on the hand. I know when I take photos with my HOX indoors of my children it takes like 10 pics to get an acceptable one if any. Often the moment has passed by then. This should be a BIG factor in low light but also in daylight. Shutterspeed is almost never supplied on sample pictures so it's hard to know if there is a difference compared to other phone cameras in different situations. I really hope it is. I rather have a grainy picture with off white balance than to have a completely blurry one. I can live with the first two or fix them in Photoshop but not the last one. For a point and shoot I think it's essential to have good shutter speed in many light conditions.

I have seen in comparisons with the Xperia Z in daylight that people walking in the background becomes a bit blurry due to movement but on the One they are not. Also seen some samples against the lumia 920 where it gets blurry quick due to long exposure to gain enough light.

Anyone have info regarding shutter speeds on the One compared to other leading phones in different light?

I'm not that good at photo tech so please correct me if I'm wrong regarding shutter speed.

Edit: spelling
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the fastest shutter speed around

for example

the outdoor photos posted by Basil3

Exposure time: 1/2959sec :laugh:

the sunset photos posted by Kaichu

Exposure time: 1/432sec
[One (M7) General] Bathyon:
Great news!

How did you get those numbers?

Anyone with a lumia 920, Xperia Z, or an iPhone 5 to take comparison pics with the One so we can compare shutter speeds in the same light?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
if uploaded image in full size at dropbox for example, all you need to do is download and access its properties > details in windows
[One (M7) General] giorgoxxi:
Here are a few pics I took during daylight:

(HDR ON)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3x7cd5rn4em55j/2013-03-28%2016.38.51.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/thkruyqz0naemps/2013-03-28%2016.39.15.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/zfhvgfuh7xpim3c/2013-03-28%2017.15.31.jpg

Same as above with HDR OFF

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uwem6tw8t1rgtm1/2013-03-28%2017.15.47.jpg

Direct sun light:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/yonquy5gb28j6ci/2013-03-28%2016.44.20.jpg

Inside a cave (very low light):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ho3yqovkxrxrts/2013-03-28%2015.07.55-1.jpg

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xtfwb4cfdz05vz/2013-03-28%2015.44.56.jpg
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Hopefully will get my One soon, hoping that it's from a good batch :)

For the camera, what would you guys who've had them longer say are the best settings to use for the camera?

Just for general everyday shots?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you will be surprised

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=32082070&postcount=7729

Nerdtalker will talk about the exposure time difference in his anandtech upcoming review
[One (M7) General] townay:
Not sure what you are trying to ask lol but to answer with my wild guess..

He's saying he provided the forum viewers with unedited photos straight from to phone. IIRC there are some shots that are the same with the ones edited with the bottom banner i.e. the cat photo.

IINM he said those are the only unedited photos left on his phone or something:)
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
I loved the water in direct sun light. Thanks for sharing those beautiful pictures.
[One (M7) General] dwj:
Incredible scenery. Where were these photos taken?
[One (M7) General] Tetsumi06:
If location data was included maps will show you :)
[One (M7) General] giorgoxxi:
This is Lanzarote, Canary Islands. In particular its a place called "Mirador del Rio", which is basically a cliff with views to the adjacent tiny island called "La Graciosa".