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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
Animations are gone because that stupid Launcher I took from official W8+ rom (just to fulfill sombody's request to have wallpaper visible in app drawer)... decided that it is better to forcibly turn them off (silly).

Anyway, the fix for animations is easy. You can back enable them in Settings / Developer options...

About brighness, I've already written about it here and in the official GM2 thread. Nobody PM'd yet to test potential fix.

Strange is that it works without any issues on my W8 8GB and some other people reported that they had no problems neither. This makes me think if there are any HW differences even on the same W8 models... But that's something only Chinese engineers know...

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Yeah, and I forgot to add maybe a useful info.

If you get no screen but system seems to be running, you don't need to take out the battery.

Just hold power button pressed for the long time - phone will reboot.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buzatu andrei:
I'm sorry I think I'm the one who asked for transparent wallpaper in menu, and you told me that in the next update, you'll put the w8 Launcher

I'm really sorry if I have a negative impact on the v3 update

:(:confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
No problem, mate. I'm mad at Chinese engineers because they seem to be doing some silly modifications sometimes...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buzatu andrei:
Ok you're the best man :):thumbup:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] benj2013:
Thanks for that! Everything seems to be working great now. For anybody else with my problem- to get developer options you have to tap on build number 7 times in the about phone tab in settings, then enable animation scale/s.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
Here is the new thread for standalone GravityBox app

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2316070
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NZ-Simplicity:
Hehehe, that's 3 W8 threads I have to follow now :p
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tonyflowed:
I would really appreciate if someone could help with this, as my phone is unusable atm.

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[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
You could maybe try using MtkDroidTools to edit IMEIs (you must enable USB debugging in Settings / Developer options)

IMEIs should be on the box or on the sticker under battery.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam77Root:
Hello everybody!

While looking at new Android devices, I found the THL W8+ (with FHD screen), it has an awesome price/value rate here in my country, but I have some concerns and questions about the device. I'd be grateful if you could answer them.

1. The MT6589 is not really a developer-friendly platform in field of open source code. I was able to find kernel sources here. Has anybody already succeeded in compiling and booting it on the device? If not, is there any '/proc/config.gz' file on stock rom?

2. Is there any full stock rom available for flashing? (Found v1.0.5 meanwhile, is that full?) If one soft bricks the device, is there any way to fully reflash the stock rom and get it working again? I saw in GravityBox thread that [MENTION=5008415]C3C076[/MENTION] could get 60FPS on W8 with using a different kernel, is it working properly? Why isn't it working on W8+?

3. Probably you didn't try it, but maybe you have some information about this. What if a kernel doesn't boot on the device? I just simply reflash a working one with SP Flash Tool or can I still get into recovery to fix it without the flash tool? This interests me mainly because if I decide to get the device, my first focus will be on getting a source-built kernel booting. That's the first step for CM.

4. Is the PowerVR GPU a multi-core variant? How does it perform in games like Indestructible (I don't really care about other games.)?

I know that these are really very much questions. I would appreciate if you could answer them.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarando:
Maybe I can answer parts of your questions.

In his thread for his rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2249808 he explained he was able to use a kernel of a eastcom rom which could to the 60FPS. However this kernel doesn't work on W8 16GB or W8+ because of some compatibility issues, therefore he only could use the stock kernels for them.

Well, there is a cwm available, I did a full backup from stock image there and restore worked fine for me. But keep in mind, there seem to be some devices around who won't boot into cwm with power+volup, so this might not work for you.

Single core PowerVR 544, not to bad but may struggle with fhd, not sure about Indestructible.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azmiay:
Incremental update cache clearing

I have a trivial question: Any difference when to wipe the cache & dalvik cache during an incremental update...is it better to do it before or after the update?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
It makes no difference.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nasimia:
Got it working

Hi I think I got it now. If you use the original back cover it seems to work OK
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
This kernel source tree is certainly missing THL W8 specific drivers (screen, camera, etc). So basically, it is unusable.

Moreover, we have no config.gz (they disabled it in kernel config so you can't find it in /proc...) So nobody knows the configuration with which kernel was built (except for Chinese engineers).

Stock rom can be flashed at any time using SP Flash Tool. There are several of them floating around. I have majority of them in my local archive.

W8+ has different screen, thus different kernel drivers. This means, kernel that we use on W8 to get 60FPS is incompatible (you get no picture at all - black screen).

For W8 16GB, there are different camera drivers, so 60FPS kernel cannot be used, neither. So the one and only models where this kernel can be used are 4GB and 8GB W8.

boot image always needs to be reflashed together with uboot imake (lk.bin - little kernel) since they are dependent on each other.

Basically, recovery needs to be compatible with given boot and uboot. That's why I provide CWM 6.0.3.3 in my recovery thread for all different build numbers.

I don't want to discourage you but CM is mission impossible.

1) We don't have kernel source (well, for CM purposes, we could still use the stock one as a prebuilt

2) "Thanks" to dual sim support, there are vast changes in the framework code. So even if you can build CM from source from MTK6589, it will miss all the Gemini stuff (dual sim) making radio subsystem unfunctional.

We don't have framework source code, neither, so we can't merge it with CM sources.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Adam77Root:
Thanks for the answers. I was looking around a bit yesterday and found some relevant information. First, there is a ProjectConfig.mk in /system/data/misc/ containing the device-specific MTK build options. Secondly, there are full 2.3.5, 2.3.6 and 4.0.4 MTK sources floating around on GitHub with extreme amount of sources including MTK SDK, Gemini, HAL libraries, system applications etc. In fact, they are full sources. 4.0.4 files would be a good start. Grabbing the RIL first would also be a good starting point, it would give at least single SIM mode. RIL and GSM daemon sources are also included in the sources I found.

Sent from my CM10.1-powered GT-I9103
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
Apparently soon(tm). When I asked on thlmobilestore dot com last month they said it would be released 'next month', ie June if they count months as we do.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makingccc:
Greetings! I am a new happy thl w8 user;) this is just the second day...

I need some help...

How can I install apps or games in the sd card?

Should I root the phone?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] buzatu andrei:
I have some problems with my phone during calls not always one time or two time per day is distorted not sounds good, it sounds like robot.

Software problems, or cellular antenna is the problem

anyone has this problem ???

Thanks.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ch-vox:
no problem here

:confused:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarando:
Not really, I made several calls today at work, it's a big concrete building with horrible reception. Most of my collegues have to go the windows to make a call, I'm kind of surprised about the speech quality under difficult conditions, a lot better than my old SGS,

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Same problem here, only runkeeper can track distance and speed right. I'm not so happy about uploading my personal data, therefore I would prefer a tracker with local data storage. I searched for different types of phones using the MTK6589, and open gps tracker should be working too. I tried several times but it's off by factor 10 too. Anybody else with a different working app?

I left bug reports on my preferred (paid) apps and was kind of wondering how ignorant the devs replied :( I'm looking forward to the release of mobiles of better known hardware brands like acer with their liquid e2, maybe there will be more recognition of this problem.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masmddr:
Anyone mind uploading Browser.odex file from the stock 4.1.2 THL W8 4/8GB ?

Apparently Browser.apk won't work (doen't even show up in app tray) without it (permissions are correct)

And I can't seem to extract it from system.img

Also the music player apk and odex files would be appreciated
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] T511:
Hi. I want to root THL W8+ 16gb FHD 8p128 version stock firmware. How can I do that?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
If I grokked it correctly, after installing C3C076's ClockworkMod 6.0.3.3, the user is presented with the option to root the device.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarando:
gps tracking

So I was trying find out what's wrong with the gps data generated by mytracks with totally screwed up distance and speed.

I recorded several tracks side by side with my W8 and SGS to compare the results. Checking the exported gpx data with gps visualizer. I couldn't find any difference that would explain the huge differences in speed and distance.

I imported a bad track of my W8 into mytracks on the SGS, and strangely enough the values for speed and distance were ok. Hmm, maybe export/import cleans the file somehow? I deleted the track in mytracks of the W8 and imported the gpx-file again, still bad. Then I transfered a good gpx file of my SGS on my W8, imported it and the values were screwed up too!

So I guess the tracked gps data is really good, the problem seems to be somewhere in the calculation of speed and distance. Obviously there are several apps who use the same method which triggers a bug in the system.

Searching google similar problems where reported for stock android 4.2.1 which led to a bugfix in dalvik vm:

o Two (or more) different 64-bit floating point constants are used.

o The physical register holding the first constant is still live at the time the second constant is used.

o The low 32 bits of the two constants are identical.

(sorry, links not allowed for me...)

Maybe we only have bad luck and most MTK 6589 roms are using the same unfixed libdvm.so? Does anybody know if we could just grab a fixed libdvm.so and replace the original one? Most likely not because of dependencies between the libraries I guess. Is there any method to test dependencies up front? I don't really wnat to brick my device while trying...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
That was my assumption, too :)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41959313&postcount=523

I've already tried building my own libdvm but was not able to make it work on my THL W8. There are probably some close relations to other libs that would need to be replaced together with libdvm (maybe whole dalvik stuff).

But I haven't experimented any further with it.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
I get the "distance x10" bug, too, using OsmAnd OpenStreetMap-based navigation and map. Also GPS fixes almost always take several minutes despite using FasterGPS, A-GPS, EPO.

The distance bug I can live with, but not being able to rely on GPS is <expletive deleted>. Any suggestions as to what I could do?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarando:
Ah, I'm sorry, even though I thought I've read the whole thread I must have missed this one. Heh, and I thought I've found something new, should have known better :).

I tried to check the dependencies between libs with ldd, but it seems that's not available in busybox. Well, I guess we have to wait for an update or maybe one of the other brands like lenovo or acer to release a fixed rom with working libs. Thanks anyway.

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That's strange, getting a fix takes usually around 15s and accuracy of the tracks is surprisingly good, a lot better than my SGS. I can get a fix even inside my house at the windows under conditions when my SGS doesn't even find a single satellite.

Have you tried the tool ypgs inside mobileuncle? You can find it under Engineer Mode/Enginee Mode ( MTK ) then shifting to the right to Location. The first Tab Satellites should show immediatly several red dots which turn green and yellow when fixed. If the dots are not showing, you're getting a cold start, meaning your gps doesn't know where to start. Try going outside and wait till you get a fix, could take several minutes for the first time. After that I always got fast fixes in all apps which are using gps. Worth a try anyway.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
ygps - thanks for the tip. After restarting the phone I got first fix in 8.6 seconds. It doesn't seem stable, though, and both OsmAnd and the GPS Status apps still do not acquire fixes easily, if at all. Indoors seems especially difficult.Will explore further once phone has recharged.

There are a bunch of GPS settings to tweak inside mobileuncle/Location/Location Based service, does anyone know what's safe to play with?

Oh, and I found a spot on my garden table where one shouldn't put the phone, an iron support screws with the compass :P
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quarando:
Well, of course you may have had bad luck and recieved one of the not so good devices. Mine has very good gps reception, meaning I always got a lot of satellites compared to my sgs, only the time to fix was really bad. After fiddling around with gps test, which I got on both devices (W8 and old SGS) to compare it was pretty clear that i suffered from cold boots every attempt, and obviously /etc/gps.conf was missing. In gps test under settings I did the recommended clear agps/update agps which in fact generated a file /etc/gps.conf, but for some reason with chinese settings for ntp. I manually edited the settings, but still suffered cold boots in gps test.

After the first usage of ypgs something changed, ever since the fixes in gps test and every other app using gps were fine. Not sure it this is of any help to you, I just played around until it was solved somehow, certainly not a very scientific approach :).
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smyl3:
I have had similar issue with the gps. Without internet and earlier agps datas, often unable to fix sats at all, or very slowly (5-10 min) if the sky view is not perfect. Its unable to fix on trains or buses as well. I have already tried every trick that I could found on the net. I heard that GM2 is not helping about the gps reception. I wrote to thl and to shop (minideal), but neither of them replied to the gps issue... or for the red photos bug which is still in the stock W8 16GB rom..
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] masmddr:
I found that if I open ygps first and let it get a fix which usually takes up to 20 seconds even at a cold start, and then open the app I need (say, maps) from the recent apps menu

Then the app gets a fix in 5 or so seconds, otherwise it can take several minutes if at all

Also about GPS.conf, using the "stat" command to view the file's access time, it doesn't seem that the OS is even accessing it (on stock, didn't try it on gm2)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Smyl3:
Without any internet connection in ygps if I press restart agps and then press cold button on information tab, the fixing from our flat window takes 8-20 min or unable to fix at all as now...

I thought too the phone is using the gps.conf file or not. I didn't see too much difference if I modify it, but I saw that more people wrote using faster gps app resulted shorter fixing times for them. Maybe its firmware related.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makingccc:
Hey guys. Just a question.

Can I change the way that the camera record a video? I mean the only option is 3gp?there is any way to record in mp4??
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FrozenOnTheWeb:
You need another camera app for this, for example lgcamera. This allows you also more control over picture and video quality.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
Further to this, the 1.5 GHz W8+ is now up for sale at antelife (1), and NOT marked as presell.

Be warned I know of noone who will make a custom ROM for this W8 variant.

(1) I am not affiliated with antelife (or any other phone seller) and name the company solely for purposes of information.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
If it comes with Android 4.2.1 GravityBox app should work on it just fine.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joel-n1:
Has anyone succesfully got the home key to wake the phone? I saw the suggestion early in this thread about adding WAKE_DROPPED but that didn't work.

Any other methods to try?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zeu569:
I added WAKE and it worked. Though I have to press the home button several times before it registers.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THLW8+:
Hi how did you do it? Is there a guide?

I have found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=683902. This means the file bravo-keypad.kl. I have not found the file but the mtk-kpd.kl I found.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aoprea:
me too i did'it and it works

i edit system/usr/mtk-kpd.kl

key 102 HOME

change to

key 102 HOME WAKE_DROPPED
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THLW8+:
Hello oprea. Edited directly on the device does not go ... or? I have tried with Rootexplorer he says he saves but nothing happens. How exactly do I do?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aoprea:
with rootexplorer i dit

you reboot the phone ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THLW8+:
Yes ... 1x with reboot, 1x without reboot. both without a change. The file remains the same.

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/1tjdqcf4k7h1eqm/Screenshot_2013-06-22-20-04-21.png

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/qqub0wiqfkndda4/Screenshot_2013-06-22-20-17-11.png
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aoprea:
there are no change in file ?

the file remain the same after reboot ?

you dit save file after write ?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THLW8+:
Sorry mistranslated. Of course, the name of the file does not change.

* I meant WAKE_DROPPED disappears when I open the file again.

Rootexplorer says he saves the file and makes a backup but nothing happens. He also does not have a backup

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I changed your file with mine. It's been the first time.

now it no longer works. If the phone is on, my home button no longer works well.

Do you have the original file yet?

O.K Now it goes.

aoprea Do you have the original Rom on it?

I had Gravity Mod 2.6 on it. I think the files are not compatible.

I registered just WAKE. If the phone was longer off, it does not always work. Sometimes you have to press x 10-15 until it goes.

I now have this Rome ThL_W8.JB2.FHD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589V1.0.5_20130517
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aoprea:
yes i have 2.6 gravity rom

and now i see if the phone is in depp slpeep mode not work

anly after a short time after screen go off.. too bad
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kidmar:
Maybe it has already been discussed (had no luck searching), but why does the alarm on my THL w8+ work even if the phone is turned off?

I've always read it shouldn't be possible.

Does it depend on phone's hardware, stock rom or gravitiymod?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
It's a combination of HW and SW.

Maybe you noticed the option to schedule on/off

Since this is possible, one would expect that the Alarm while phone's off is also possible.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azmiay:
Screen capture

How do we get a screen capture on the W8?

I tried pressing both the vol & power button as suggested by someone but nothing happened!?!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
Vol down + power should work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C3C076:
Here's the latest official ROM for W8 16GB.

ThL_W8.JB2.HD.EN.COM.8P128_MT6589V1.0.2_20130616

It can be flashed in CWM recovery.

Thanks [MENTION=4015191]spicymchaggis[/MENTION] for providing backup from his device.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Surfero75:
Is there a way to do work gyroscope? In android sensor test it is present but dont works for example, in Google photo sphere

Enviado desde mi ThL W8 usando Tapatalk 4 Beta
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
Anyone knows if this ROM will work on a W8 16GB which came with the 20130506 ROM? And can it just be flashed over the 20130506 without wipes and/or resets (Yes, yes, I'll backup first)?

Thanks to both [MENTION=4015191]spicymchaggis[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5008415]C3C076[/MENTION] for providing this. Something to play with while I hope for a GM2 2.7 for the 16GB model.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aoprea:
Who know if a back cover for w8 is good for w8+ phone ???

thanks
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr. Premise:
I believe it is, they sell "THL W8 W8+ Flip Cover"s. Not sure if it fits the Beyond as well.

--

Edit: Anyone knows which water/shockproof cases fit the W8?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ch-vox:
yes, it should be.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Marvin0815:
MTK 6589 HW Encoding

Hello

Can someone tell me which media player supports hardware encoding?

Mx player, BS player, XBMC ... tried everything. None of these players may MKV HW encoding on THL W8+.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcadesdude:
What's wrong with software decoding? Mx player plays everything just switch to software decoding if hw doesn't work.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] THLW8+:
This is not your serious or?

It is jerky, and after a few minutes Asynchronous sound.

I mean of course FullHD not 720P.

And FullHD Stream is impossible.

[MENTION=5292784]Marvin0815[/MENTION] Give up, buy the a real phone. This thing is crap
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] arcadesdude:
Ive never had a problem playing back any media with mx player. Even 1080p plays back and streams no problem for my phone (4gb original w8) but the screen is only 720p so I usually download stream and watch in that resolution. Perhaps there is some codec issue. Mkv is the wrapper not the encoded media.

Maybe you could use Handbrake on a pc first to reencode the video to mp4 before transferring to the phone. Should playback fine unless the source media has some quirk with our phones codec support. I havent had any issues with desyncing audio or playback issues but I usually watch H264 or mp4 encoded video with mp3 or aac audio streams.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jojopi:
W8 or W8+?

Hi guys I m about to buy the W8 or W8+......For a little more (40eu more) I can get the W8+ 16gb and FULL HD, is it worth the jump in price?

Is the W8+ rootable as the W8 8gb?

Thanks for the help mates :)