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[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
I don't think it will take more than a day to get used to it!
[One (M7) General] Tomatoes8:
Says the HTC cheerleader.
[One (M7) General] CrazyTechnoBoy:
Are we already starting drama in this thread.? ._.
[One (M7) General] jhonsok:
I don't mind the new button layout but there better be a way to map a menu key somewhere.

I play lots of emulators and I need a menu key to access options. I hate that stupid black bar designated for menu, it really kills the experience for me. I hated my one x at first because of that.

With that said, I'm happy with what they've done for their next hero device. Can't wait.
[One (M7) General] townay:
Really dislike onscreen buttons. All they ever do is take up screen space.

Multitasking button only requires you to double tap Home button.

Are people really that lazy now?
[One (M7) General] epsix:
Guys I heard double tap on back button to get into settings, just like double tap on home button to use multiple apps.
[One (M7) General] jotha:
Thread cleaned

...from some troll. He'll not be back for some time ;).
[One (M7) General] techguyone:
What are you on about?

The whole point of Android going to a 3 button from 4 button layout was to REMOVE the menu button...

It went from: MENU BACK HOME SEARCH

to: BACK HOME MULTITASK

no one with a 3 button layout has MENU as a dedicated button anymore.

Admitedly HTC's going to a 2 button layout is a bit.. odd but I don't think it's going to be bothersome to adapt to it, far better that they stuck with capacitive buttons, the on screen ones have a number of drawbacks.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
1. SGS3 still has the old button layout

2. Not everything Google does is for the best

In my opinion, the switch from Menu to Multitask was a very bad decision. I get the reasoning behind it (unhide UI elements), but it was one of the "features" of Android in my opinion that you could truly have full screen applications without the need of any UI elements (you always had the option to go back and for other options you had the menu button).

So yeah, menu button makes less sense nowadays as many apps have a dedicated on screen menu button anyways, so it gets kinda useless. But to be perfectly honest, I don't really need the MT button either. Yes, I use it from time to time but not as much a dedicated button would in any way make my life easier.

In fact, on my One X, I have mapped the MT key to be the menu key and long press MT key to multitask instead. I use the menu key WAY more often.

---------- Post added at 09:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:53 AM ----------

I'm not really sure if you're aware that you can disable the menu bar in the settings of the One X and map the Menu key to the multitasking key (either press for menu and longpress for multitask or the other way around).
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
I think I will always miss the N1 trackball,for both waking the phone and missed call lights.

I love the HTC One but if could find a single disadvantage,it's the 2 buttons instead of 3, I wonder if we will have S2W with empty space between 2 buttons,perhaps it will be 2tap2W (two taps the button to wake)
[One (M7) General] JOSE89178:
Lol. I have the Atrix HD. These on screen buttons are ridiculous!
[One (M7) General] katamari201:
I hate onscreen buttons. They are annoying and make the whole screen look ugly. When they disappear into three dots like in the camera app and you have to pop them back up, its all a waste of time and screen. Samsung, LG, and HTC realize how stupid they are so they have not embraced them. Google needs to learn some humility and know when to back down when they've made a mistake. Microsoft allows for microSD cards now in WP8, completely changing their tune about it since WP7. Google is still defying the market, sticking with onscreen buttons and no expansion on their nexus phones. MicroSDs are cheap and far cheaper than getting a higher GB model, if you can even find a higher GB model that is.

I like that HTC reduced the number of buttons and made them smaller. They are still big enough to hit easily, but aren't hugging the corners like Samsung or LG phones, which are very easily to press by accident. Less buttons also means less accidents. One of the great things about the iPhone's single home button is that you always know where it is and its easy to press without looking for it. Press once for home, double press for recent apps, press again on home to go to first page or go to search, hold for Siri. It's easier for me than having to remember the constantly changing button order on phones, having to distinguish between them, or pressing the wrong one by accident. HTC is simplifying the buttons for the better. I also like the HTC logo in between the two buttons.
[One (M7) General] DoMiNiKiNG947:
What they should have done was leave it the way it is like the HTC Evo LTE aka HTC One OG version with three button layout. Way better. Don't like that three dot screen and on some apps its just taking up space. I just recently bought Evo LTE about 2 months ago because though no menu button gonna suck but noticed it had it by activating it. The new layout for the One kind of sucks. Home button should of been on middle or even leave the HTC but use it as home button and third be menu/multitask.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
I'm repeating myself:

You can deactivate that 3-dot menu and map the menu functionality to the back button (long press). Exactly the same thing with the One X/One S where you can map the menu button to the multitasking button.
[One (M7) General] DoMiNiKiNG947:
And by the way, on screen buttons is a no-no for me. Takes up space form screen. HTC be dumb enough to do that. Hard enough to go from 4 to 3 buttons to then go to 2 button. 3 is good.
[One (M7) General] GlossGhost:
Or just take the slight edge of the screen, swype inside and made on screen buttons appear. Also make a button that hides them and whenever you need the just swype again and they will be there.

Without taking up from the resolution and the screen. They just appear on top of what you have. What do you guys think about that?

Mapping the keys is the best way though.
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
As much as I love swipe gestures and not like using buttons, I feel like making the menu purely gesture based isn't too good an idea. I like how HTC isn't using on screen buttons. I've never used an android for more than a few minutes though and I wasn't too big a fan of the on screen buttons when I would see someone else's phone. I'm sure not too long after I get the HTC one ill just try to find things that will allow me to get rid of the need for the buttons to make it all gesture based. Still like the idea of having the dedicated buttons there though just in case.
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Will some of you honestly moan about anything you can?

If having a certain feature on the One is a deal breaker for you, don't stay in this forum. You don't need to tell us what you don't like and we don't need to hear it.
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
What's a forum if you can't share your opinions? :p Some people do act ridiculous over the smallest things though, I for one would have bought the phone any way they would have made the buttons. This phone is just too good to pass up.
[One (M7) General] Wh1techapel:
For me, the on-screen buttons ruined the XZ. I have decided to switch my attention to the One for this and a few other reasons.
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Yeah that's pretty much what I mean. People just making a mountain out of a molehill.

The Nexus 4 forum is terrible for that. Tons of threads pop up saying "This screen broke without touching it" and within a couple of pages the story is revealed that it was dropped from a couple of feet high -_-
[One (M7) General] Chad_Petree:
Wow very surprised to see how many people hate the on screen buttons :/ that was a reality check , but at least people still think it was dumb to get rid of the multitasking button , we can agree on that
[One (M7) General] blenkows:
My LGOG has a 3-layout and a menu key. I use Nova launcher so I don't have the option for the double tap to get the MT. I have to hold the home button which isn't so bad. I'll admit, it gets a bit annoying though. But I love my menu key haha

On-screen buttons I'm not fond of but I see where people are coming from. I know for the LGOG, a lot of people in the forums complain because it's a big phone that's awkwardly shaped and their fingers are too short to comfortably reach the capacitive back button. They say they like the on-screen keys because they can comfortably reach it. I think it takes up too much real estate of the beautiful screen though so I try to stay clear.

Just giving my two cents.
[One (M7) General] ADHDassassin:
I love on screen buttons. I adore my Galaxy Nexus and if it weren't for the fact that there still isn't a Nexus with LTE I would go that route again. I really like the clean look of on screen buttons as well as how they dynamically change to more accurately reflect their functionality. (like when a keyboard pops up and back changes to a down arrow). I know opponents of them hate the screen space being lost but in my experience it hasn't bothered me. Also in a perfect world, the whole front of the phone would be edge to edge screen and so the any buttons are taking up space that could potentially be screen space.
[One (M7) General] Apoxx:
Isn't that the only time they actually do change? I don't mind on screen buttons, I think they are way better than my S3, where the home button is hard to press, and you always accidentally press back or menu. I have yet to try a HTC phone so I will reserve my judgement on how it works out until I get my One.
[One (M7) General] americasteam:
On screen buttons suck. Baffles me why someone would want to waste screen space like that.
[One (M7) General] rpmccormick:
On Screen buttons = Not bad, but a waste. In some apps looks really bad. Full bar like nexus 4 looks better than just ... though.

Capacitive buttons like HTC = ok, saves screen space, I still miss tactile feel.

Capacitive buttons like Samsung = So dumb... when not lit up you can't tell which is which... and there are 4 of them... and they keep changing the order and functions of those 4. Drives me nutz! (I might not have got the HTC if the back button was on the right like all of Samsung's 3-button new layout... just doesn't make sense in my head... I will never get used to it... back button goes on the left! You can put it on the top-left like iOS or on the bottom-left like all other Androids... why does Samsung put it on the right now!?!?!? Maybe it's just me because I am left handed?) I do kinda like the one physical button in the middle with cap buttons on each side though.

I love the 4 physical rocker-buttons on my SideKick 4G (Home/MT across the top, Back/Menu across the bottom), and I love having a physical 5-row keyboard... but I guess I am in the minority! I also wish they would bring back the Green/Red Answer/Hangup buttons. Nothing is worse then when your hands are wet or something, so your damn touchscreen wont let you drag to answer a call and it goes to VM.

I think people choose form over function too much. Physical buttons are so much better than capacitive, as is a slide-out-keyboard in exchange for a slightly thicker phone. If a quad-core slider existed I would give up on the HTC One in a second, but I don't see it happening any time in the near future, and although my SK4G is still the most ergonomically pleasing phone I have ever used (with the original T-Mobile G1 a distant second), the buggy OS is still stuck on Froyo so I need a new phone and can wait no longer.

MT button: I can't say I ever use it. Back or Home gets me to the desktop, then I click on which app I want. All my "multi-tasking" groups are on a desktop page together, so why would I want a seperate MT screen where the order of which app I want constantly changes? On my SK4G I hacked the MT button to be a search button instead. Home/Search/Back/Menu/Answer/Hangup... those are all the keys I want, and I want Volume Up/Down to double as RightArrow/LeftArrow when typing. ...plus a slide out 5-row.

The MT button isn't even a true task-switcher/closer as it should be... it is just an app-launch history that you can clear things from. The whole system just seems like a lie to me. People think they are closing down apps by swiping them away, and they should be, but they are not. If an app gets launched by another app or on startup it doesn't even get added to the list... and the list always confuses me as I wish it was sorted in the opposite direction. An MT button would be great if it functioned like Windows TaskManager, but until then, I have no use for it.
[One (M7) General] sohamssd:
Its not a waste of space, anyways your capacitive buttons will be occupying the space. Instead the screen can take the space which imo is far better. Also by a custom ROM (like pa) you can hide the buttons making the complete screen for use (which obviously can't be done with capacitive keys)
[One (M7) General] Element515:
Android should just adopt pie controls as an option.
[One (M7) General] Gambler_3:
lol at all the people saying on-screen buttons take space. Well you know capacitive buttons take space as well seriously are people that dumb?

I have suggested this solution before in other forums and I will say again. The BEST solution is to have a separate screen for navigation buttons. If you make the HTC one a 5" phone with on-screen buttons then its going to be wider than it is right now unless you make the screen even wider than 16:9 which wont make any sense. However if you give it a 4.7" screen AND a dedicated screen for buttons then you dont have to make it any wider. Sure it drives up costs a little bit but the flexibility you get in usage is well worth it.
[One (M7) General] Caliban007:
So basically you just want what is already there, but make those capacitive buttons a 2nd screen and customizable instead? Seems like a lot of effort that a small amount of power users would want. I like the capacitive buttons over on screen. I have an HP Touchpad running the Cyanogen Mod and it's annoying to have that bar on the bottom in some games. But just my opinion!
[One (M7) General] illestfob:
I completely understand haha. I'm still using my G2/Desire Z mainly because of its physical qwerty. I'm also still on 2.3... so have never even seen the multitask button stuff yet. but it sounds like a glorified recent apps menu. on the G2 i just long press the home key to get to the recent apps menu, which is how it is on the One too. I do use the capacitive menu key quite often. gonna miss it on the One...
[One (M7) General] Gambler_3:
I am not an engineer but I dont think it would need that much "effort". HTC is not even the big brand anymore so they really could do with attracting the power users in any way possible. Its not like this method is going to cause any issues to the casual user.

Why are they annoying? If you are playing a game there would still be capacitive buttons beneath the screen what difference does it make if they are on-screen? With on-screen buttons its always best to subtract 0.2-0.3" to get to the real usable space so people arent disappointed.
[One (M7) General] Long813:
I really like(d) my SNS with BACK MENU SEARCH HOME.

Always was lost using friends phones where BACK was not far left. The SEARCH was nice when I was on a browser and it also allowed you to go to google right from SEARCH, instead of pulling up the browser.

Long press for menu is nice though, I need to adapt to it. And, the multitask? New concept to me ... not sure if I even see much use for it yet.
[One (M7) General] Note_2:
I think they put the back button on the right with the 3 button layout because it is used more than menu and quicker to press, therefore more convenient. I don't get how you can't remember where 4 buttons are when they aren't lit up, unless you are switching phones every other day, it should be easy to remember. Take writing on keyboards for example, you don't have to remember where buttons are- you just know after enough use.
[One (M7) General] Joshnor713:
Can't stand buttons taking up screen real estate. Glad these manufacturers are sticking with capacitive buttons.

Wrong move Google.
[One (M7) General] Fihlvein:
HTC won't ditch physical soft keys simply because it's part of their brand, and most importantly they (as many Android manufacturers) want to differentiate from others. That's why Galaxy S line will also have the physical home button for the time being.

It's really brave of Sony to go with Nexus style on screen buttons, as it's one item less to differentiate. Of course the on screen buttons can be tailored which is what Sony did and is what I'd like to see more from manufacturers. Maybe they don't like giving users a possibility to customize the buttons.
[One (M7) General] rpmccormick:
Back button on right just seems backwards to me, and I am left handed, so for me, no, it is not more convenient at all :)

I use multiple phones, including one mounted into the dash of my car, and I configure other peoples phones a lot for them. So when buttons keep moving around it is quite confusing. Not a problem if you can read what the button is without having to touch one of them for it to light up the icon first. I hope the HTC One buttons aren't invisible when not lit, but they do look visible in all the pics... and I guess it's hard to forget when there are only 2 buttons (and they are in the "correct" by-my-standards order).
[One (M7) General] rovex:
I think Samsung have it right with the Galaxy S. I hate on-screen buttons and the One has some sort of horrible hybrid. I miss the home key, its the Ones biggest flaw.
[One (M7) General] Gambler_3:
You can increase the duration of the backlit keys on galaxy phones.
[One (M7) General] HJAMA:
I think the no dedicated multitasking button isn't a huge problem, however most apps decide to have their menu let which could fit in a 0.5x1 cm box but decide to take 1cm chunk from the bottom of the display, meaning I have less screen real estate
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discoguru:
Hey guys,

I have been running the last build of Paranoid Android until today. My speaker sound suddenly stopped working yesterday. I updated the kernel (to Feb 10. 2013) thinking maybe something broke but even that doesnt seem to have helped!

I need help! I keep missing all my calls, messages .. :crying:

Cheers!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Glebun:
ask in the PA help thread or flash a stock ROM and factory reset
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discoguru:
Are you serious? Is that the only way?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
Serious i am sure as in ask in the PA thread its there problem .

jje
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] discoguru:
Bump! Guys .. no one has replied to my post on PA. Can someone please help me out here? I even tried installing the SuperNexus rom on it. No difference. I am currently looking for the stock rom to see if the problem persists.

Help me please! Pretty please? :crying:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonareck:
Did you tried stock rom?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonareck:
I did a factory reset, tried different roms, flash the original rom with odin.

I order a replacement speaker and I still have the same issue the ringer speaker generate so much noise you can barely hear the music.
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
Hi,

Is there any chance of bricking my phone while flashing a custom ROM to it? I have successfully managed to install 4ext as recovery but I want to be 100% sure. Also, would it be possible to load on an I.C.S ROM (I am on 2.3.5 currently, stock ROM) and is possible, what one would you recommend? Or if that is not possible, what ROM would you recommend I put on? Thanks in advance :)

Phone Details:

HTCDEV UNLOCK

HBOOT 2.00.0002

RADIO 3822.10.50.24_M

eMMC Boot

Aug 22 2011, 15.22.13
[HTC Desire S] amidabuddha:
Yes messing with your device always carries a possibility of a brick. It is hard task to achieve this but it us possible.

As for the ROMs there are plenty of recent great editions of different Sense and Android versions, so best read some threads, comments, try some of them and pick the one you like the most.

There are a lot of tools to make this fast and easy, such as the Recovery, backup software and Google sync

Sent from my HTC Desire S
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
Thanks - would I be able to use this rom to flash? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1502508
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
yes, but remember to flash boot. img

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
What does flashing the boot.img do? And I am following this guide http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1525100
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
good just follow the steps . Boot. img is the kernel. as you are s on, the kernel doesn't flash it self due to the security flag by HTC :mad:

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
Will my phone still function as normal even though it is not designed for i.c.s? And is the ROM I selected a good ROM?
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
duh, you have a desire s? obviously your phone will still function as normal. There isn't such a thing called good rom, try it yourself

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
If the rom is no good can I flash back a different one?
[HTC Desire S] deadphone99:
I am not sure on what ROM to go for, I would like it to be I.C.S could you recommend one to me please?
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
vipersaga

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] rain987:
Not sure u trolling or what, reported.
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
err, what? why am I reported?

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] O_G:
I would recommend you reading through the posts in the dev section and make your own mind up. Everybody has their favourite ROM, and the debate can get over heated, which is why its best for you to make the decision based on your own findings.​

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[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madz78:
Hi,

What is Tasker JB, and how/where do I take full advantage of it?:rolleyes:

TIA.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madz78:
Anyone? I've searched for answers everywhere, even in Google support but there's nothing explaining or even referring the option..

TIA.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilometers4:
Tasker is an app that allows you to automate tasks. Do you have it installed?

Edit: here's the link to it

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.dinglisch.android.taskerm
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madz78:
Yes I have this app but I'm having a hard time understanding how it works. I went through their wiki to try to create events but I can't find the options described, I believe it might be outdated..

Can you point to a good noobproof tutorial?

Thanks.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kilometers4:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEhnOJl5mTo&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That's a good one. There's three parts to it I think.
[Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] madz78:
I want to use tasker to do this.
[Galaxy Tab 2 10.1" Android Development] AngSanley:
What's this?

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Screenshots:

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