yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

After installing Google Search, just use something like Titanium Backup to freeze Unified Search (or uninstall it). Google Search will then respond to the search button.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

This is related to the specific launcher you're using (assuming it's the one you posted in another thread). That app appears to be signed using the Android debug key, which is not allowed for production apps.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Kinology is still running great! Keep up the good work!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] timurg:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

I have a problem with the Wired app. It states - "no internet connection", probably its caused by ad blocking? Is it fixable?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] dagelo:
i can aslo confirm this. I am mostly reading with this device, but have same problem. Unfortunately, i didnt any precise test. But in case, i will :) no problem
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

This app?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.riverside.wired
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] timurg:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Oh, sorry, no that one:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0063M86B4
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

To disable ad blocking, install either AdFree or AdAway, update to the latest files, then use the app's disable or revert option.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
any new idea for next release :D, love your rom :victory::victory::victory::victory::victory:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Hinzman420:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Just to give you some feedback, in order to watch Netflix i had to switch back to 240 on the lcd density. Great rom though definately appreciate your hard work.

Sent From My Kindle HD Running Kinology Rom
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] P30SiNa:
Flashed this rom and it's great. thanks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] techdeisel:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

U are making this an even more awesome device keep up the great work and 3 suggestions that would make this perfect for me.

1: still no sound input or out for Google+

2: ability to add to faves from launcher other than stock

3:fix for recent apps in fullscreen apps so I don't have to slide the status bar down to close or reopen one

Working in cuff these myself any experienced help would be great:D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kalel90:
Would it be possible to get this ported to the kfhd 8.9?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] timurg:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Thanks, it does work for me.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] ComputerSteve:
Hi I am loving Kinology but would it be possible to build it off of 7.2.1 instead of 7.2.3 because I am noticing 7.2.3 has a lot of screen rotation issues. When I was on 7.2.1 I could download from the playstore the game called pitfall and the app would just work now on 7.2.3 based kindle fire hds I have to download the app Rotate in order to fix rotation because if I don't the app flips the wrong way. I also notice that temple run downloaded from google play doesn't align meaning the runner alway thinks you are holding the device to the right so the character moves to the right. I haven't noticed these problems when I was on 7.2.1 and really 7.2.3 didn't really improve anything it actually according to this form made alot of devices slower. I too feel the slowness of 7.2.3. I do love the work you did on this I just wish there was a choice of an earlier based Kinology.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] techdeisel:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

An app is not necessary for your rotation issue just before us start your game use the rotation lock in the pull down notification bar the little circle that says unlocked tap it once a lock will appear in the middle an unlocked will change to unlock an the screen will not rotate at all just remember to unlock it when u want your device's screen to rotate :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] ComputerSteve:
Thanks for this tip. I just wanted to point out the fact that 7.2.1 didn't seem to suffer from this problem maybe Kinology could look into why and patch it if not thats why I was suggesting rolling back the version of Kinology to a 7.2.1 based one.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Psych0phobia is it possible you could do this?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1576565, with this, i think, we can have the settings apk we want!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kgyuszko:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

OK so I updated to kinology today's no prob I followed instructions exactly and perfect set up.I do have 2 questions however,

1) I have reinstalled go launcher HD as I don't like the kindle carrousel. Is this a step back, or is there another better interface in kinology that I've missed?

2) BBC I player has been working fine on my device until today. Now I have kinology it won't play videos I just get message I player stopped working? Is it anything to do with resolution? And how do I fix?

Thanks for any help please.....

Kgyuszko
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

I doubt that this will work at all.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] kgyuszko:
Just a thought, is this why im struggling to get BBC Iplayer working, if so, how do I change the density back?

thanks for any help

kgyuszko

Updated. Reread the whole thread and answered my own question... d'oh!!!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] seokhun:
If we want to update Kinology, say from version 1.0 to 1.1, do we have to download and flash all 5 files again, or do we just need to flash the two files you put under "Updates"?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bartsoft:
No sound in video playback

I have noticed I have no sound (through media such as YouTube and videos) music plays fine. Please help me.

Kindle fire HD 7"

[ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

What does that even mean?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Go to the original post, CM10 thread.

Use this ROM (or the default kindle fire ROM) as a base for a CM 9 Rom.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Once again, what does that even mean? This is not CM9; this has no source whatsoever. The very concepts of building CM versus modding Kindle OS are so vastly different as to be wholly incompatible.

Edit: Okay, so I may be making some assumptions about CM that aren't true. I'll do some more research, but the short answer here is probably that I personally won't have the free time necessary to build such a beast.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

All this stuff is too confusing, I have to learn more. I don't know what else to say now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mechanizedmedic:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

There are plenty of ROMs out there that use stock (not open) kernels and simply replace apks. With a few exceptions, everything you see in android is an app. The Droid Bionic, which I'm using right now, has some really great examples of this concept.

Sent from Hell™
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

What?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mechanizedmedic:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

The idea is to compile the bits from AOSP and CM that you want to use against the Amazon ICS SDK.

https://developer.amazon.com/sdk/fire/getting-started.html#Prepare

Sent from Hell™
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Thankyou for clarifying and making me laugh.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] EnigmaReborn:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

I was curios, Is it possible to get the stock ICS softkeys without flashing a rom?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] techdeisel:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

U can use metamorph App form the party store go to system/app find soft keys.apk open it in metamorph go to red hdpi find the icons u want to change replace them with what u want if I can get time I'll make a video
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] EnigmaReborn:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

If you could make a video that would be great :D
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
you do that?, exellent! i want to make the same with the notification bar
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] danny19901:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

I will try this sometime although I'm on stock with root and I have Jellybean lockscreen and status bar icons and AOSP keyboard also I have developer options and other stuff
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bartsoft:
Solved problem

Wipe and factory eset solved problem with sound.....thx.

Kindle fire HD 7"

[ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1[/QUOTE]
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] LOLephant In The Room:
Launchers disappear...

It seems that some launchers install fine, but disappear once I shut the Kindle off and turn it back on (or restart). The two launchers I had problems with are "Next Launcher" and "TSF Shell". Both appear in the "Installed Applications" tab after the Kindle is restarted, but as com.(text) instead of their app names.

If I delete the com.(text) file from "Installed Applications" I can re-download the app, but you can see how that can be very tedious. Anyone know why this may be?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] AmrBanawan:
Not just launchers, It can happen with any other application, Weird thing is, If an application (Disappears) all i have to do is uninstall the com.(application name), Then this application will re-appear. Anyway, I don't know how but it kinda fixed itself, it just doesn't happen anymore.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] LOLephant In The Room:
I see. Oh well, I'll just have to monitor my Kindle and see what happens. Hopefully mine will fix itself as well. Thanks for the feedback.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Any app that exhibits this behavior has been signed with a "generic" Android key, rather than an actual authority-issued key. Amazon, in their infinite wisdom, has also signed a few system apps with these keys. In order to correct the issue, part of the upgrade process to 7.2.3 involves replacing the cached keys with real ones (whereas the correct correction would be to re-sign the apps correctly.

Kinology, at boot time, runs the script to do this key replacement nonsense so that certain system apps will actually work (Unified Search, for example). Unfortunately, the side effect of this is that non-system apps that happen to be signed with generic keys also get this treatment. Unfortunately again, non-system apps that have their keys changed unexpectedly in this manner are denied exec access (basic Android security).

Personally, I would not trust any app that is signed with a generic key. However, I will continue to look for a solution to the key issue that doesn't have this particular consequence. No promises at this time, though....
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

make it a system app
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Shawnsch:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

I installed look out and an unable to set it as device administrator is there a fix for this?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] xXezmacXx:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Any way to get kindle free time app on rooted kf yet?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] ferrojasaguilar:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Just wanted to say thank you for all the hard work. I just installed this on my kfhd and I love it!! Everything working perfectly atm with the sole exception of location services.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] techdeisel:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

add this to your new update

http://db.tt/knVdRGsm

this was modified by me, a more ics theme. you have to paste this in system/app and change permission to

rw-r----- then reboot :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

Thats not what i mean. I mean using the status bar like on many other android devices where you get notification icons. (Example: If you have a facebook notification you get a fb icon.)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

This probably just takes a bit of hacking at the system apps. It's on my list of things to investigate for the next version, but I haven't had any free time at all recently.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Calleja:
I tried uninstalling unified search to get Google Search to be the default search, but instead now nothing happens with either the search icon in the navbar or the search bar in nova launcher. Isn't Google Search included in the gapps or did I do something wrong?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Have you checked to see if it's installed?

Settings > Applications > Installed Applications >

Google Search
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
google search is force closing when i open it, why ?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Misterowl:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

It looks so fresh, thank you for the file! ^-^
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Not sure since I'm not running this custom ROM & have no idea what it comes with, is the Google Search APK present in the System/App folder?

I'm running this one below & works perfect but that's just on Stock (Rooted) 7.2.1

Try it if you want, copy into the System/App folder & reboot (may not be necessary)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
Re: [ROM][KFHD7][7.2.3] ♦ Kinology 1.1 ♦ 2013/03/03 ♦

it crash too
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] macravin:
I just installed google now (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1747224) and that worked pretty well.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
couple of different zips - which one did you choose??
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] macravin:
ARM7-online only

Offline works too, but it's kind of a waste of space since the voice search doesn't work anyway (at least for me)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
Nice, looks good

---------- Post added at 04:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:01 AM ----------

Thanks mate. Tried it, but it was very slow.

Trying now just to get the old google search
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] los911:
Anyone got a video or screenies of what Kinology is like?

Sounds great but I don't wamt to use my amazon account at all, should I just go for other roms?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Try checking the third post of this thread. ... Ta Da! :rolleyes:

This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Post #3 has screens
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] SKORPiO1975:
Had the same problem. I wiped everything and installed Kinology again and it's running great now.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Heyy, any news on whats comming for the next update :)?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
I'm working on it ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Not to bother, but any advances on what we may see? And sorry, Im loving the ROM and Im just wondering what to expect :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Honestly, not a whole lot of differences in the next version. Mostly the upgrade to 7.3.0 is taking time (everything has to be reimplemented from the newest files). I'm looking into fixing whatever issues reported on XDA that I can, along with a very small number of new features.

Yes, that is intentionally vague ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
O.O Isn't it safer to stick to 7.2.3? I mean, this one is known to have no problems as for root, and general use.. Also, there's no guarantee that the OTA disable scripts will work on this new version... though maybe is just me. Thanks for letting me know anyways :) Your job is really appreciated!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] irish_711:
I know VolDown + Power button takes a screenshot, but is there any chance to implement a screenshot with the power menu, alongside restart, recovery, etc.?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
You do great work! I am waiting patiently for the next release.... and I am grateful for your vagueness. :)

This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
Wait Kinology continue to update as Version 7.3.0,thanks much psych0phobia
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Sorry, I totally missed this question. For future reference, no, Google Search is not included in the Kinology GApps. This is because it cannot co-exist with Amazon's Unified Search, and Kinology is meant to represent an Amazon OS with extra Google goodies.

If you want to use Google Search instead, you'll need to do two things. First, delete UnifiedSearch.apk from /system/app. Second, grab the latest official ICS GApps (20120429) and copy GoogleQuickSearchBox.apk to /system/app. Then reboot. Kinology will auto-fix permissions, so don't worry about that.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
This is working for me on Kinology 2.0 (not released yet). It seems it should work on version 1 as well, as I haven't changed anything related to device administrators.

Kindle Free Time will be included in Kinology 2.

Kinology 2 will now only update the keys during an upgrade, or at the second boot of a clean install.

I actually have no plans to make Kinology configurable. By the time I could implement something like that, Hashcode would have already cracked the 10.1 nut and everyone would have migrated to it. :)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mechanizedmedic:
Any plans on making a de-bloated/de-Amazoned version?

Sent from Hell™
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
When you're done with that, can you make an entirely new ROM as well?

What...? It could happen...

This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Are ypu adding the status bar icons too? Or is not on the list for this new version?

Thanks for your efforts btw. Your ROM make the HD7 a better device
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
A screenshot of my home screen from Kinology 2 is in order:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
:laugh: Neither are likely. Though, as far as debloat goes, I would do exactly what you would do... start deleting apps and see what happens.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Sorry, I was going for intentional sarcasm. Must have missed the mark.

This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
You sir, are my hero :') Will we be able to upgrade without having to delete all apps right? Just like before, small patches?

Guess I'll be coming to the forum every five minutes to see if you released Kinology 2.0 xD
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
Don't worry, I got it. Made me laugh. :)

Yes, there will be an upgrade path. However, I will still recommend the data-wipe path whenever possible. I know it's painful (just think how many times I have to do this while developing and still trying to actually use my Kindle at the same time...), but it definitely has less potential for bizarre problems.

At this point, all Kinology 1.1 features have been successfully integrated with the 7.3.0 base, along with a few new ones for 2.0. However, it's going to be a few days or longer before release, as I'm seeing some pretty heavy unexpected battery drain - WiFi is using more power than the screen. I'm still trying to determine what exactly causes it, and if it's fixable. That's a slow process when it doesn't want to associate with an app.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
I have been looking into this, but it doesn't appear to be possible.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
Many thanks we appreciate your contributions to help the community . Hopefully there will soon be Kinology 2.0.Thanks again :good:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Nnyan:
looking forward to the 7.3.0 based ROM.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] persano:
possible ?, i will use some kinology things, with apex tablet ui

---------- Post added at 09:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:21 PM ----------

7.2.1 has less bloatware and bugs
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] jailuis:
Bloatware maybe, but bugs No. Newer versions have fixed bugs on oldest ones. 7.2.1 included
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] rhplusa10:
I have a battery issue.

I just installed Kinology when I got my kindle, so I have no idea with stock OS.

I just let my kindle staying screen off with WiFi connected.

Half of the battery is gone in 10 hours.

I just checked battery state, the screen was off but it kept awake.

Also checked with GSAM battery app, it says 79% battery was gone with "Cell Radio".

Mine is WiFi version, does not have cell radio.

Is it just wrong showing from the app? or this OS have battery issue with cell radio?

How can I disable cell radio if so?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] raggaro5:
Great work psych0phobia really great work, but would it be possible instead of keeping the boring softbar.apk that the kindle have u use the themed one krsmn has that looks like cm10.1 maybe the reflect it looks much better with the nova launcher and it will be as if we have jellybean til hashcode releases it.

KFHD 7 Kinology using XDA-Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Actually, it's not mine at all (if krsmn is supposed to be me). I use lmt as seen below. Persano and one other guy have themed the softkeys.

Sorry.

This is a Kinology HD using XDA Premium
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] quan_1986:
stock ROM 7.3.0
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] psych0phobia:
I always leave my Kindle on over night with screen off and Wi-Fi on. My battery drains by about 2-3%.

This generally means an app has a wake lock. You'll need something like Better Battery Stats to figure out what app it is.

Yes. Kinology has enabled cellular permissions so that Google's Play Store will show apps that require it. Some apps will also be fooled into thinking that cellular hardware exists. However, Kinology also has ensured that the cellular network provisions in the OS cannot be activated so that it will not use up battery power searching for it.