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[Nexus 4 General] markd0wn:
If I understand correctly, that post implies that the CM team is seriously considering shipping CM without root access and instead adding features that people use the root function for to make up for it. Somehow I have a feeling such a move will not go so well in terms of response from users.

However, if one could still flash SuperSU over CM and "take a risk", I'm guessing that's what most will do.

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I agree as well, the idea is nice on-paper, but it could be a very lengthy process and flood the team with requests. I'm assuming the most popular features are indeed firewall and ad-blocking, backup stuff, etc. Some small and not-as-popular things also require root like Push Notification Fixer which we know so well and I'm sure many other things that maybe not everyone uses but many do.
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
Well, #1 it wouldn't be the first time that Steve Kondik mused about something on G+ and it didn't happen. #2 even if this is the way that CM is going in the future, its not going there tomorrow or even in the short term (possibly near long teem, but I'd guess longer than that) so they would still need to provide some sort of working or at least passable root solution until then, or they just don't push 10.2 until they've sorted out how to do this. I think his suggestion is ultimately the way to go, but a lot of discussion and thinking would certainly be required before anything actually gets pushed as official.
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Not sure; but it could definitely be interpreted as such.

I had to look through my root app folder and see what I actually use now (disregarding any CM System root access to keep it simple), 90% file browsing I'd say. Of what I use ADB could fill in for all of them, with the exception of one...maybe, no idea how to turn my phone into a remote for the Odroid without a root app. Aside from System I have 4 root apps total, down from all I could get when I first rooted my phone :laugh:

I have a feeling we might be seeing a whole bunch of new API's from the CM team.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
If no one is reporting it, I'd report it to jira and the dev thread either tomorrow night or Monday morning (gmt -7)
[Nexus 4 General] Ulver:
I had issues sending messages with voice+ on the 27th build. Went back to the 25th and all is fine.
[Nexus 4 General] bassmadrigal:
I tried, and after having a ton of build errors due to a lack of #define QCOM_HARDWARE, I manually defined it in the headers that had ifdefs about it (probably not the best way about doing this, but I don't know of a better way). I successfully compiled it, but I never got a boot animation. Couldn't get a logcat either. I'm not sure if it is because adb hasn't started before the crash, or USB debugging isn't enabled by default.

This was my first time building, so it could be the PICNIC error, but I think I got everything on my end right. I updated the phone's radio and bootloader, I used a 4.3 ROM for the proprietary files extraction, I used a 4.3 gapps confirmed to work on other 10.2 kangs, and I did a system wipe first, but then resorted to a Factory Reset/Data Wipe (didn't think it would change anything as it wasn't even showing the bootanimation).

Unfortunately, my computer is just too slow to continually try this. By my guesstimate, I'm looking at over 10 hours for a full build. This really makes me want to build a new computer. This one is from 2008 (and prior to this, it never felt slow).
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Ladies and Gentleman. I introduce you to the definition of THE MAN.

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[Nexus 4 General] markd0wn:
So this was resolved quickly.
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
Doesn't mean that ultimately they'll move away from root as the solution, but at least root is working for now.

Edit: looks as though he went a similar route to the one taken by Chainfire.
[Nexus 4 General] TheSniperFan:
While I think that his idea is a good one in theory, there are practical issues with it.

Firstly there are a lot of people who use rooted stock ROMs. This would lead to the problem that you

secondly have apps requiring a certain version of CyanogenMod to run, which is something I imagine Google having a problem with in their Play Store.

And lastly you'd break apps if you don't implement every use scenario of root apps there are out there.

The best thing would be if Google would implement those APIs into the AOSP. But even if they would, there still would be point three.
[Nexus 4 General] bedtime_with_the_bear:
Nothing that is happening with CyanogenMod will force apps to require only CM to run. It is likely that apps can get root the same was they always have for at least until Jelly Bean falls out of support.

I doubt Google will care even if an app in the Play Store does require a CM ROM to run - there have been root only and manufacturer specific apps in the store for a long time. Requiring a version of CM is no different, but if it happens it won't be because the CM team suddenly removed su functionality - its Google's security changes that are prompting the issues with su, not the CM team.

Finally, if, after CM has been phasing out su in favour of fine grained access controls, with a rich API, app developers are still using old methods to gain privileges that necessarily grants them far more rights than they need, then good riddance, in my opinion. Do you really know what tall your root apps are doing? Or what they might be doing? I don't, so I have to trust the developer.

It's high time we all stopped thinking in terms of "root" apps. No app ever *needs* to be root; at the most, a handful of apps needed a handful of extra rights. Its just that, until now, we haven't had the tools to even consider what that means.
[Nexus 4 General] shockem:
Compiled CM10.2 an hour ago. Here's the dl link. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8hQiT4EVZJEOEVLT0Q4NlNkckE&usp=sharing .

Koush's SU is in there too :)
[Nexus 4 General] mierda1:
Hi, as I said in previous post (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44011290&postcount=2937) I have problems with excessive battery use with "Android OS" only when connected to a wifi.

I have attached a BetterBatteryStats log with 11h of battery use. When seeing the top app battery use I can see "Android OS" with more than 55% of total battery use (from 95% to 82%, -13%), like 30min of total of CPU and 1h active. The next process with 20% of total battery use is inactive phone. Wifi process consumes 10% of total.

As we can see in the log, the phone was active 1 h 15 m 26 s, more or less the same time Android OS (that are the apps have I installed?) was active. So, the problem is the excessive use of battery of Android OS.

With android 4.2.2 stock rom I have no problem but since I installed CM 10.1.2 stable in my Nexus 4 (whenever I use CM kernel or Franco kernel) I have this problem with Android OS only when connected to a wifi.

If I can read correctly the BBS log attached I have no clue about what is Android OS, who consumes the 7% battery use (55% of 13% total use of battery) and I can't see any other wakelock/process/network/anything that was active during 1h. The only I can see the 1h 15min of awake time, but where I can find who was awake all this time? Top Wakelocks is 3 min, top Kernel Wakelock 6 min, I don't see any excessive alarms or network...

The only process I think can be the culprit of excessive consume of battery Android OS is the next network stat:

0 (Wifi) (0): 258.0 KBytes 23,4%

It's only 250KB but if all this KB are like pings or dhcp request or something like this can do this 1h active time, right?

Anyone has encountered this problem with CM 10.1.2 stable with the Nexus 4? I have found in these forums another case that solved installing another ROM (http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44010058&postcount=41077), but I want to keep CM rom :)
[Nexus 4 General] ChriZer:
SMS and Root doesn't work for me :/

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[Nexus 4 General] azrash:
That is weird, your BBS dump looks normal. Have you tried doing a clean install? Factory reset, then check the md5sum of the latest stable release before flashing it again.

And try to skip franco kernel first. Let it run for a while, then check whether the same issue is present.

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[Nexus 4 General] mierda1:
Yes, I did a clean install and with TitaniumBackup restored all the apps+data and then install franco kernel. I did not check md5sum, if I have time to flash again (because maybe I will wait until 4.3 CM version, because its not a big problem) I will check it.

What I don't understand is how I'm supposed to see what is "Android OS" in my phone, I think BBS don't tell me anything about this.
[Nexus 4 General] grgana:
Why i cant see new 10.2.1 ver. Of cm in updater app of CM it keeps showing me 10.1.2 is the lastest stable built for my N4 :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] shockem:
Root works. Go to developer options in settings and set root to apps and adb. It should work then.

The SMS bug is present. Hopefully they will fox it and I will make another build as soon as I can. :)
[Nexus 4 General] mierda1:
Sorry, It was 10.1.2, in the log attached it sais android version 4.2.2. It's fixed now :P
[Nexus 4 General] bedtime_with_the_bear:
Test again with stock CM and see if you still experience the issue.
[Nexus 4 General] mierda1:
Now I've just checked checksum it's ok... and the problem was not only happening with wifi but with 3G too.

In addition of this problem (about Android OS) today I found that I can see no "user aplication" in battery usage. I have seen a video with moboplayer and reading with greader, for 25 min each, and I don't see these user apps (among others like facebook, whatsapp, etc.) in the list of battery usage. It's strange because the first days of CM use I think I saw them... :confused:

In order to reinstall CM I have to install the zip + gapps and then doing a factory reset wipe (without internal sd card I hope), correct?
[Nexus 4 General] Jur1nator:
i am not asking for an ETA :p

but is there a place we can see and track the progress of the 4.3 nightly wich is hopefully coming out soon? ( maybe a dev keeping an g+ blog or something)
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
You can follow CM on G+, but you can rest assured that there will be much rejoicing here when official nightly builds begin.
[Nexus 4 General] thebrainkafka:
Q. Background wallpaper

Is there an way to get a picture AS full background wallpaper.... Without this anoying cut offs...

Thx
[Nexus 4 General] TecQuality:
seems that there's a working nightly already available ... :p
[Nexus 4 General] LoVeRice:
There's an app in playstore that fixes that. I forgot the name tho.. :)
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Hello Focal. Thanks to Tim Clark on G+ for pointing out the commit. 10.2 only for now.

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/46394/
[Nexus 4 General] negroplasty:
Nice! I started syncing a 10.2 folder as soon as I saw that too! About to find out why they're still pushing 10.1 nightlies, hopefully nothing too serious still broken :eek: .
[Nexus 4 General] jawz101:
The native desktop resolution for the Nexus 4 is 1536x1280, but since the screen is 768x1280 you will only ever see a part of the full picture.

The app I've used in the past for cropping is Wallpaper Wizardrii
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Still the very occasional freeze, loss of connection to camera with the Google cam/sometimes black screen with Focal. CM aosp cam is working well. I'm pining for an official Gapps zip (most are broken in someway), other than that its 95% smooth sailing.

Edit: no black screen upon launch in Focal so long as you clear it from your recents prior to relaunching it. Still beta as CM pointed out, I see a ton of good about it.
[Nexus 4 General] RootTheMachine:
There's some 4.3 superuser stuff showing up in the next nightly changelog. This could be a good sign...
[Nexus 4 General] 2000tidus2000:
anyway boot.img should chenge the bootloader. Don't it? Just i dont know in wich partition flash it
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
You don't need to flash it separately, just flash the zip from recovery, that's all you need to do.

And no, boot.img is the kernel and ramdisk not the bootloader.
[Nexus 4 General] 2000tidus2000:
okok just find. Sorry for the insistence :D

i just didn't understand how can kernel be installed by recovery, was thinking that is installable just in fastboot.

lot of tks
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
No problem, one of the benefits of a Nexus device is you don't have to mess with strange flashing procedures.
[Nexus 4 General] Michealtbh:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Kernel can be installed from recovery on most devices
[Nexus 4 General] mariotme:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Guys may I ask what sort of bug is it when you activate your GPS and launch Google maps and close it and switch GPS back off. After a while you check your battery stats and it shows that Google maps is still sucking on your battery and it also shows that gos was still on while its off in real life.

Or is it just happening on my side only?
[Nexus 4 General] EldonP:
Yes you still have a SDcard that won't get wiped with a factory data reset. When you plug in your phone to your PC you can put your ROM in the download folder. Then in CWM you would install the file from:

/sdcard/0/Download
[Nexus 4 General] mantrajt:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Hi. I want to know if this issues I'll describe are common to all of us or just my bad...

Bluetooth and car connection:

Every time I step inside my car and turn it on my phone beeps asking me to accept the connection. Even though I choose not to be asked again...evert time is the same. The connection is still made.

Any solution for this or should I just learn to live with it?

The lock screen mess: I run almost every night and believe me when I say I have tried almost every most popular music player... The thing is that while running and trying to wake my phone to check on my endomondo stats...most often I see a total mess as the unlock features blend with the lock screen music player making it really hard to unlock and impossible to switch among songs.

Any idea on this issues?

Thanks!

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[Nexus 4 General] jcicora:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Oh so everything in the sdcard folder is safe from wiping?
[Nexus 4 General] Zainiak:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Yes. Unless you have something important on there. You would also lose any nandroid backups

Please disregard typos.... Sent from my NeXuS 4
[Nexus 4 General] youshoe:
Wait...only things in mnt/sdcard/ get wiped...nandroids are outside this directory.....
[Nexus 4 General] swimdude1120:
Anyone having problems sending/receiving mms? If so do you know if there is a fix. I can't send any mms texts with cm 10.1, but I can on mmuzzy's rom. Been racking my brain to figure out the problem.
[Nexus 4 General] 0.0:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Are you on T-Mobile?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] youshoe:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

Not trying to advertise my inactive blog, but I had a similar problem on my old phone and I went through the steps I took to resolve it...

http://regaltechy.com/mobile/mms-never-worked-on-current-rom-try-this/

Hope it helps.
[Nexus 4 General] slapheady:
I have both the CM camera and the google camera installed on my Nexus.

The flash doesn't work on the CM version, but works fine on the Google version. Logcat doesn't have anything recorded within which points to a problem. I'm sure I've seem someone mention something in the dev forum about it, but obviously searching for "flash" comes back with a million results :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] EddyOS:
I was wondering if the flash has ever gone off whilst using the CM camera! I don't think it ever has since I've had my N4...
[Nexus 4 General] themacroe:
Re: [ROM][4.2.2] CyanogenMod 10.1 Nightlies DISCUSSION,TALK, Q&A thread

How do I stop Google photos from syncing I have deleted the cache and cleared data from gallery picassa photos still show in my gallery

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[Nexus 4 General] 75markus:
in sync menu, untick Google fotos & clear data from gallery, ev. reboot.

doesn´t work for you ?
[Nexus 4 General] Fr33L4nc3r:
Nope. Have a look on JIRA : https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-20

This doesn't seem to be the normal behaviour.

By just turning ON the BT on your phone (no need of turning the car ON), does your car / head unit appear listed, below visibility option, under "Paired Devices" ?
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
CM 10.2 for Mako (Nexus 4)

Download: http://d-h.st/users/Utacka

Mirror: http://www.utacka.se/xda/test/

Gapps 4.3: http://d-h.st/9V3
[Nexus 4 General] Kc_Nirvana:
The outgoing SMS bug is already corrected?
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
yes
[Nexus 4 General] Kc_Nirvana:
So...

Me very thankfull to you...

Me flashing tonight....

Me likes CM...

:D :D :D
[Nexus 4 General] Euler MD:
Can we dirty flash this?
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
yes, from cm10.1 / any previous cm10.2.

I would believe even dirty flash from aosp rom would work but not entirely sure. Make a backup incase in doubt but should not be any problem. If any individual apps force close like clock.apk just clear its data/cache.

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[Nexus 4 General] californicated:
So I could try to dirty flash from stock 4.2 :D
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
haha try, but dont blame me is all im saying since stock is odex :D

make sure to backup if it fails ;)

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[Nexus 4 General] yash295:
Thank you my good sir!! i can confirm its working well. flashed couple of minutes ago. there was lag here and there but it was gone after flashing custom kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] Kc_Nirvana:
Lag? With stock CM kernel on 4.3 version?
[Nexus 4 General] yash295:
Yeah lil bit but i was using slim rom before this and for me slim roms are fastest roms

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[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
The minimum frequency is slightly borked on a clean install of 10.2, seems to sort itself out however. Not in nightlies though so not really an issue at this point.
[Nexus 4 General] nickshertzer:
I just tried a dirty flash from 4.3 stock factory image. You know, for science! It appears to be in a bootloop (never ending bootanimation). Nothing a quick factory reset won't sort out.

:silly:
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
Good to know, for science! I assumed odexed roms would get mad.:D

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[Nexus 4 General] californicated:
Would have been too comfortable :D
[Nexus 4 General] Kc_Nirvana:
Strange because I had some lag with Stock 4.2.2 and CM10.1 in App Drawer and in Stock 4.3 it was lost...

Don't understand how CM10.2 has lag if is based on 4.3.

But I am also a noob so....

:D :D :D
[Nexus 4 General] nickshertzer:
Alright... so what is the trick for root? Maybe adaway needs updated for 4.3? It couldn't find Root binary, so I tried flashing Chainfire 1.45...

Derp... Figured it out while typing the post. Chainfire SuperSU 1.51 has fixed the mount points. Browsing ad free.... ::sigh of relief::

http://download.chainfire.eu/345/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.51.zip

:highfive:

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Are you the same Utacka who built unofficial Paranoid for the Note GT-N7000! (you are) :D You rule dude! Thanks for the 10.2 Mako release!!!
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
Yea im the one who maintained an Utacka'fied pa for n7000.

Root is disabled by default in cm10.2 but you can activate it in developer settings -> Root access -> Apps and ADB. No need to flash SuperSU.

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[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
What do you think about this issue? https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-1690

And about this feature i'm requesting? https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-170
[Nexus 4 General] clem_ita:
Good idea. Will vote for it.

It would also nice if it could be started automagically via NFC ;)
[Nexus 4 General] nickshertzer:
Hmmm... I actually tried that first. I think AdAway just needs updated for 4.3 maybe? SuperSU did work, but I felt dirty flashing that Samsung trick on my Nexus. :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
it says root has failed for me even though i have enabled it from security..if i was to flash supersu from chainfire should do the trick i think...
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
You need USB debugging activated aswell.

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[Nexus 4 General] Goku80:
Cheers boss

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Still nothing
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
Wierd but there is always SuperSU. I believe 1.51 is currently the latest. Flash SuperSU zip file found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

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[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
If you're using a custom kernel that uses a different ramdisk the built-in superuser daemon won't be started which is why superuser doesn't work.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
It's hard to start building cyanogenmod from source? I'm seeing this guide http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_mako but i wanted a second thought for an user! It's better on ubuntu or Windows?
[Nexus 4 General] Utacka:
Its easy, just follow the guide. You will need linux for it, ubuntu is proven to work the best for compiling android. Might be some cygwin port to windows? But I dont think so. Ive seen mac compiling guides aswell so it should work.

Remember that if you have slow computer with less than 8gb ram then the it can take hours to compile and its not worth it imo. My build machine is actually new with 32gb ram and it takes me about 40 minutes to compile and about 15 minutes with ccache for cm10.2.

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[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
Can't build it on Windows AFAIK, you can build it on any linux variant and MacOS.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Ok that's good, is true that i need at least 35Gb of free space? I have an Ubuntu partition but with way less total space than that -.-
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
I'm running a Ubuntu 13.04 virtual machine on a Windows 8 machine, and another on a Windows 7 machine. I used to have a dual boot set up, but VM's are more convenient for me.

This is a good thread to reference, just have to replace all the 10.1's with 10.2's. Getting the build environment set up is the slightly trickier part.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2047981

A distro that has everything set up to build, with the exception of the items in the thread above is BBQLinux, i.e. no build environment to set up.
[Nexus 4 General] RootTheMachine:
I have a 10 GB Ubuntu partition that's almost full, so I just plugged in an external drive. Just setup your build environment on the external drive and you're good to go.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
How much the sources are in size?

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[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
Around 10GB.
[Nexus 4 General] RootTheMachine:
Hmm... My directory is 60 GB, but I'm not sure how much of that is the source.
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Lol it will take a couple of days in my crappy connection xD
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
That probably includes the binaries and intermediates, etc...
[Nexus 4 General] CMNein:
Have to account for ~20GB in /out directory contents once you've built as well.
[Nexus 4 General] RootTheMachine:
So I guess the point is, you need plenty of space.
[Nexus 4 General] thracemerin:
What he said, I'd provision at least 60GB for it, if you plan to use the CCACHE possibly even a little more.

Yep :)
[Nexus 4 General] rskyline:
Well I'm trying to repartition my disc to give ubuntu about 40 Gigs more.

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