yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Or we are back where we started (as the lg optimus g pro is also using ddr2 ram): The ram bandwidth bottlenesk possilbilty. But i still hope for drivers/lower clocks. Both should be fixed quite easily.

This evening i should get my hands on the one. Is there any way to find out whats the maximum gpu clock speed?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
unlike Turbo I don't think it's DDR to blame, we will know very soon once the Samsung is revealed and we confirm what DDR it's using

yes by all means, just run One Single GL Benchmark for the Egypt HD offscreen test (make sure its cool, power saver is off and its charged but off the charger)
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
The script has now finished the 50th iteration, and the FPS did not change. It has been consistently between 41.1 to 41.5 fps.

I don't really feel a substantial heat, it gets a lot less warm than my Sensation when I play a lot with it. My phone can even get sometimes to 50 degrees Celsius, however midway during the test I've ran a dumpsys battery command (so I wouldn't have to stop it) and the output was 378 (i.e. 37.8 degrees Celsius).

I can't access the CPU temperature without root, however I suspect most of the heat usually comes from the battery.

After the test I've let it cool for two minutes, then installed Quick System Info to got a battery dumpsys command. The output was the same: 35.8 degrees celius.

The device is connected to a PC and I'm not allowed to disconnect it, meaning the battery is charging so it might be hotter than it would on regular use.

Overall, I'm very impressed with it. The results are very good considering it's rendering at full 1080p and I'm really looking forward to get my own.

Edit: 8 minutes afterwards, 33.1 degrees Celsius.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
waw it was on the charger?? that's really impressive :eek:

This means Qualcomm did improve on the s600 like promised

its really strange LG still running into such issues on the Optimus G pro...
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Not on a charger, it was connected to a PC (for monitoring) so it was charging at about 500mah or so (usual USB power output). On a charger it'd be roughly twice that.

I don't think the LG issues are that surprising. I guess they really had to cut the power early otherwise the glass back as it might fracture. Although it's very pretty and feels premium in the hand, it does transfer heat quite easily and could fracture under extreme temperature changes. I wonder who's call was it to use a glass back, Google or LG?

Check this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2022149

Not sure if it's legit, but still.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
on USB is still impressive, you can fry an egg on your One X if you play while charging

as for the N4 i think from the n4 video interviews i got the idea it was google's call

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for gamers only:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38539137&postcount=16287
[One (M7) General] shox22:
So a friend of mine was first with getting his hands on the device. His first comment: Feels ultra premium.

He did one clean offscreen run. And again, like expected, the device scored 34fps.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i think we are locked in at 34fps and no throttling

the gamefaqs guy did a clean run as well

no point of digging further, but its good to know its a locked score and not throttling
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Isnt the new asus padfone infinity running android 4.2.x (new driver?) with the snapdragon 600 and 2gb ddr2 ram? I found an antutu benchmark result with a 3d score of 8300 (~same as the one). I wasn´t able to find glbenchmark results.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea i guess this one new venue to look at :)
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
so that means we are left with android 4.2 optimisation, underclocked gpu and ddr2 ram if we can rule out throttling?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Padfone infinity benchs here:

http://www.gsmarena.com/asus_mwc_2013-review-899p2.php

but no GL
[One (M7) General] shox22:
the padfone infinity is using ddr-2 1066 ram (8,4MB/s). The Butterfly/Dna for example are using DDR2-533. (4,2 MB/s)

Source: Anandtech

We still dont know how fast the ram of the one is. 1066 mhz is the maximum of ddr2. Wikipedia says, that the bandwidth of DDR3-1066 is the same as DDR2-1066.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
most likely the fastest DDR2 otherwise it would achieve those benchmarks scores

its good now we narrowed it to the drivers/clocks! all we need is one celan bench on the padfone infinity

and look:
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Ah, made a mistake with the ram of the dna/butterfly. Its dualchannel ram, so effectivly 8,4mb/s. I think we can expect the same of the infinity and the one.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
why are all these bloggers so oblivious about Gl benchmark? despite the endless anandtech articles about GPU?

i mean no one who got his hands on the Asus at MWC used this bench yet
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@Turbo ;) Nvidia cheated? :)
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
After hearing about the low heat (even during/after prolonged CPU/GPU) I am now even more confident in HTC as a company.

I think it shows that HTC knows what they are doing. Even more excited about this phone now :D
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Wow, i rly think you found something interesting.

I read a bit over etc1 on this sites (but i still dont have a real clue about it!):

http://www.brokenteapotstudios.com/.../android-texture-performance-rgb-vs-etc1.html

http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/android-texture-compression

As an example of normal textures vs ect1 compressed in a small game (not scientific):

That could give a nice boost in gpu performance if i dont get it wrong.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Speaking to a few people, the use of the ECT1 texture compression shouldn't really affect the performance. I can't wait for the HTC One to be rooted, so we can ascertain the GPU clock, it will answer a lot of questions.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes actually it's GL benchmark at fault here of not using those texture compression format like ETC and DXT in their current google play built, but i think this because GL bench is used to compared with iOS and it has to be more apple to apple

so Nvidia want to show off its chipset, optimized games will use texture compression anyway, so they used a tweaked glbenchmark version

i was first expecting it to be the upcoming GLBench 2.7 but it seems they just used a custom built of 2.5.1

and im not into something, its turbo who first noticed this :good:

@Turbo if its not important, why did they use it? maybe they were translating ETC1 to DXT?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I think there must be any advantage. They could have just used the normal one. But they have their "own" version
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Adreno 320 GPU architecture>>
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
ETC1 is supported by GLBenchmark 2.5, but it appears it's only available to users of the corporate edition. So are there any xda users, whom have access to GLB 2.5.1 corporate version?, we could ask them to run the C24Z16 (Egypt HD) Offscreen vs C24Z16 ETC1 Offscreen.

Given the increase in Shaders, clock speed and memory bandwidth of Tegra 4's GPU, mid 50s on Egypt HD offscreen does seem reasonable.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes its just very curious, GLbenchmark is overdue for an update...

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Ars Technica: HTC's Droid DNA makes sacrifices in the name of pixel density
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Crazy world of benchmarking on Android.

Padfone Infinity use the same 1.7 GHz Snapdragon 600, but a huge difference in benchmark + or - depending on browser / kernel optimizations.

Padfone - Sunspider 875ms vs 1124ms (HTC One)

BUT

Padfone - AnTuTu 15531 vs 22678 (HTC One)

Even though I dislike Sunspider, which is rubbish compared to Octane or Kraken, current hardware is too fast for this old test, it allows us to gauge Snapdragon 800 scores vs Tegra 4.

T4 scores 500ms on Sunspider, S800 will be clocked 35% higher than a 1.7 GHz S600. Sunspider scales linearly with MHz, so using the 875ms of the Padfone, minus 35%, we achieve ~ 575ms. Factor in improvements to the Krait 400 core vs the Krait 300 in Snapdragon 600, and we should see sub 500ms scores on properly optimised browser for S800.
[One (M7) General] strip419:
*Yawn* reading before bedtime. Reading these stuff make me sleepy. Almost all my post on the ONE are between 11:00pm to 4:00am. I learn a lot form XDA before I sleep ( I will end up beating an isheep tomorrow in my routine arguments, to show em how stupid apple is) To me XDA accounts for 40% of Android's success, can't count the number of isheeps I have converted to droidsheeps. Gudnyt brothers (when I become a millionaire I will donate to XDA "BIGTIME"):p:D
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
AW: GLBenchmark HTC ONE only 34 FPS @ Egypt HD 1080P Offscreen

@Turbotab: Maybe it's because the Padfone Infinity runs 4.2 ?!...

But I don't think that 4.2 increases the score of Sunspider so much.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Another reason is they benchmarked sunspider on Chrome. We all know most JB Roms makes chrome their default browser now unlike HTC which still pursues it's flash support by implementing their default browser.

*Salutes HTC for making a browser which has high html5 compatibility and flash player compatible also*
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Yup, I still need flash on some stock trading websites :p

Sent from my DHD
[One (M7) General] :
Yes, I like this step. I believe XZ only used Chrome, no "custom" browser used there. I think Samsung will defnitely use a similar approcah to HTC. Not a big fan of mobile chrome.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Are you sure, it was not mentioned by GSMarena, which browser they used. I saw both stock android browser and chrome stable installed on the video, not that it really matters

The date of the test was the 25th Feb, Chrome Stable was only updated on the 27th, before which it was using much older Javascript / Webkit engines, which are much slower in benchmarks. Given the low Sunspider score they must have Stock Android browser compiled with the current engines / V8 optimisations for the latest Qualcomm architecture.
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
AW: GLBenchmark HTC ONE only 34 FPS @ Egypt HD 1080P Offscreen

I think that Sunspider is Bu..sh.. . My S3 has 1023ms . That's better then the Snapdragon 600 in the HTC One :/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
who cares mates, browser benchs are silly

what we need right now is a padfone infinity GL benchmark

and would love to test Tegra 3 and Adreno 320 with ETC1 (but yea i know its a distant wish)
[One (M7) General] GlossGhost:
If the One gives 1100 ms score on Sunspider, than my LG Optimus 3D Dual core 1.4GHz clock does better?
[One (M7) General] reddragon72:
Remember that the built in browser is modified by the manufacture. I am curious about standalone Chrome/Firefox/Opera.
[One (M7) General] Fusionr300zx:
i'm sure 90% of ppl on here will be running a stock android rom instead of the sense UI.

so i'm sure that score will change.

and the phone will be a god.

i hate plastic phones.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
update: msm-dcvs governor is included in the HTC One, requires root to switch

Vey important info regarding Gaming on Snapdraong 4 Pro / Snapdragon 600

there is an alternative krait optimized governor on the stock Droid DNA, lets hope its included on the HTC One

and even better lets hope its using it as the main performance governor instead of the old and tired ondemand

maybe Trekest can check?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
More replies from he DNA guys regarding the msm governor
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
I don't have the device in my possession anymore =/ It was moved to another department.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Xperia Z gameplay videos 1080p + slightly slower Adreno 320 and S4pro

Nova 3 is full effects, however A7, MC4 and Wild blood are running in low modes

NFSMW full graphics

fps is confusing fluctuates between very smooth and lag, maybe governor or throttling issues
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so like turbo said, we r starting to lean into theory
[One (M7) General] Hunt3r.j2:
IIRC HTC has said that they did not update to 4.2 due to stability and bug issues, 4.2.2 was the first stable 4.2 branch and it should only be a month or two before they launch that on the One.

Source: Anandtech Podcast Episode 17.
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] -CALIBAN666-:
Get it from here

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/02/22/download-latest-google-play-store-3-10-14/

http://db.tt/WnujSfM5

For black one the best is to delete all data etc and the previous one and move the apk with rootexplorer to system/app set perm. rw-r-r- and reboot.

GREEETZ WITH TAPATALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] TechBurner:
Re: Playstore 3.10.14 is out

Anything diff?

learning
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Ganesh A:
Re: Playstore 3.10.14 is out

thnks a lot...

A person who never made a mistake never tried anything new.

- Albert Einstein
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] TheFixItMan:
Reading the report from the link posted by the op it's a minor bug update - nothing new
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Imtiaz369:
Its Gd
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Deleted member 4925735:
Re: Playstore 3.10.14 is out

What's the changelog by the way?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] raj.parekh07:
Re: Playstore 3.10.14 is out

Just check the link he provided

NOTHING TO SEE HERE
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] -CALIBAN666-:
AW: Playstore 3.10.14 is out/black vending.apk in dropbox link

Black store 3.10.14 addet with dropbox link.

GREEETZ WITH TAPATALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] 74M3NUMB3RS:
cant see any link for black one

Lets Do The Harlem Shake

fsskqgsksiwbsjdhwbshsjsh
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] -CALIBAN666-:
AW: Playstore 3.10.14 is out/black vending.apk in dropbox link

The link is there, i see it.

GREEETZ WITH TAPATALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] 74M3NUMB3RS:
u just added it right noe :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Lets Do The Harlem Shake

fsskqgsksiwbsjdhwbshsjsh
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] -CALIBAN666-:
AW: Playstore 3.10.14 is out/black vending.apk in dropbox link

No the was there ive only readdet, no joke, bro

GREEETZ WITH TAPATALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] raj.parekh07:
Nice i liked

NOTHING TO SEE HERE
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Deleted member 4925735:
Any way to have full access in google play store like google books in the philippines?
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] -CALIBAN666-:
AW: Playstore 3.10.14 is out/black vending.apk in dropbox link

Look for market enabler......etc.

GREEETZ WITH TAPATALKED BEATZ!!!
[Galaxy Y GT-S5360 Themes and Apps] Deleted member 4925735:
Sorry not on play store anymore
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
Seems really interesting. Let's see if cyanogen starts pushing alpha releases to devices.

Good find
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] BaconStep:
D2vzw has a port http://rootzwiki.com/index.php?/topic/39299-[ROM][WIP]-Ubuntu-Touch-on-d2vzw-[Dev-Preview][Phantom]-[02/22/13]
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
That looks sexy!!!

I love Ubuntu and I'm excited as hell to use it in my phone...

I don't care if it lags I'll still use it.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] rani9990:
How about no data? :p
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
I have Wi-Fi Lol I don't mind no data Lol
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
It's funny you posted this.

As I type this I'm currently working on the port for the AT&T S3. It's about 60% or so finished.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
What??? No way??? :)

No doubting just think its awesome!!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
Yeah, honestly the longest part of this project so far was waiting for Ubuntu's sources to sync. You'd think they would be able to download faster then 40 KiB/s
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
Haha yeah but then again a lot of people are probably downloading.

But I'd love to try this and test it out :)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
If I actually get a booting release working, I'll post about getting a few others the Alpha release. Just not sure where it would go. Android Dev or Original Android Dev...

Of course if it doesn't boot at all, it's not going out.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
Original Dev I'm guessing

Since CM is part of it

Let's hope it boots!!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cre4per:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
He's porting a port.

I'm building from source
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
I just finally got wifi up and running on ubuntu on my macbook, so I'm ready to start porting as well. WIll probably be done by sunday. Honestly, they couldn't have made this any easier.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
I would so compile if I had my laptop :(

They made it far easier than actually cooking a ROM.

Using CM as a base and only adding a couple text lines is the most genius idea ever.

Not only that but apart from reaching out to the 95% of regular users they have reached out to root users as well
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
Even if you've never done a port, as long add you can follow directions, they walk you through it
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Wilcox12:
Awesome man! Can't wait to see it!
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
Well, a quick update. I have a build. But I did something wrong, somewhere.

The zip's flash with no problem (TWRP), but it just keeps booting into recovery. Maybe I'll try CWM for ****s and giggles. But if it doesn't work, I'm just going to drop the project and someone else can pick it up. Gotta get back to my college work.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
By the by there's a forum section in devices for android ports of touch ubuntu
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
If i can get WiFi working on Ubuntu for my macbook, then ill be starting my port tonight.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
I talked to some Sprint/Verizon S3 users who ported as well and they both got the same thing . a non boot ROM.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
Well, that's a bit of relief. I guess it will happen eventually. Just probably not by me :p
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
So far only one person on a Verizon S3 has it booted up

He's in RootzWiki.. Let me fetch the link

Edit: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/39299-romwip-ubuntu-touch-on-d2vzw-dev-previewphantom-022213/ [ROM][WIP]-Ubuntu-Touch-on-d2vzw-[Dev-Preview][Phantom]-[02/22/13]

Talk to him and see what he did to get it to boot up :)
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] theROMinator:
Do you also have the retina mbp? There seems to be no drivers for mine :(
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
when you type "sudo dmidecode -s system-product-name" (with no quotes) into terminal, what does it tell you?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Getz2oo3:
From what I know so far. Ubuntu Touch only supports data on GSM - - soo....going by that...Technically we should be able to get data on D2ATT right???? RIGHT???? lol

Anyways - -Bravo! I'll be following you closely til you put up your build. I really wanna try this out. Buddy of mine with a Nexus 7 already has it - he said it's pretty cool. Yar
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] willbs94:
Something was said about no APN settings were set. Soooo idk
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
Finished porting last night haven't had a chance to test, so I'll let you know later today.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] ima.monstaaa:
Anyone who is looking to use this as a daily driver is going to be very disappointed. None of the apps are fully functional and I don't think mobile data is going to work at all. Using it on my Nexus, I was able to look through the UI, open a few broswer pages ( but entering text into fields on the page seemed to only work for a few characters), and use the Gmail and Facebook app. The camera did not function, the side stage had not been implemented, 90% of the apps are simply icons on the desktop or a nonfunctional splash screen. This is intended for developers to get an idea of what they're developing their apps for. If you know what you're doing, you may be able to get a little more functionality out of it by making some changes via SSH/ADB, but it does not seem that there is even much you can do with that as of now. That being said, I was super excited to try it out on my Nexus 7 and only used it for about an hour before I reflashed Android back to it. About an hour was all I needed to do everything it had to offer. I do believe it has great potential and is something that can compete with Android, just at this point its nothing more than "This is how it might look."
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jordanetodd:
Thanks for the post. The port is booting but i borked something with device specifics, so I'm probably going to leave it considering it isn't functional unless you are an app developer, in which case i would suggest a nexus device anyways.

Sorry guys, maybe when a more.... Useful build is out ill put more time into porting it over.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] Dave the Knave:
Looks like you got a step further then I did. Mine wouldn't boot no matter what I did. Personally, I'd still love to see what it looks like. But I don't have the time to build it or maintain it for a thread here on XDA or anywhere. Between balancing college and my job, I'm exhausted and have little free time now. Spring break cannot come soon enough.
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] cjranucci:
Well how far did you get? Where is the source so someone can pick it up?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] jayRokk:
ima.monstaaa is correct.

I saw the preview on the nexus 7 on YouTube and the only thing that really works is the browser. Facebook app uses the browser as well to open. The rest of the icons like people, music and pictures are there as a splash screen and won't change. The calls/messages are there as well just for show. No function or anything.

Even so I'd like to see what's it like to run in our devices.

How long do you guys give it before we have some sort of beta or a RC?

A month or two??

I can't wait for this :)