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[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] etotheo:
I love my Note 10.1, so I cant see myself replacing it with the 8" version, though I do think that would be a great size to hold and be mobile with. I think Sammy's next version of the 10.1 needs to maintain the same screen size, but reduce the bezel significantly. Say 1/2" from all sides, bringing a much more portable devise to the table... Funny how the definition of portable changes so much over a few years.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] ExploreMN:
I love the Note 10.1 as well, but...to me...it's biggest drawback is the size. I'm pretty sure I'll be getting this bad boy when it's released unless the price is nuts. If it comes in around $300-350 I'll go for it. Any more than that and I'll stick with the 10.1 instead.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] salmonsushi:
Hi

I think they deliberately put thick bezel so that you can hold it and not block the screen for watching a movie.

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Expect slightly higher than ipad mini price
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mitchellvii:
Ugh, I HATE waiting for a device to be released.

I want this because it will have all the goodness of the Note 10.1 but with a much more acceptable ppi. I had a Note 10.1 but sold it because the zaggy fonts just got on my nerves.

Looks like the price of the Note 10.1 is already coming down with it at $449 at a number of retailers. Samsung isn't releasing the price of the Note 8 yet because it will KILL Note 10.1 sales.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rozak:
In my opinion note 10.1 and 8.0 serve different purposes

Watching a movie, surfing the web, writing a document, editing a picture or video etc is far more better on the big screen.

Note 8.0 is best at portability and I believe it can handle well social networking, e-mail etc.

I personally have Note 10.1, but I am tempting of buying 8.0 too, for the shakes of portability.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Toyeboy:
I know I wish they'd hurry up!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] tehriddler:
The form factor looks rather goofy with the stretched out S3 design. They should have gone with the Note II design. Why did they put the speakers in portrait?! Who watches videos in portrait?

This would be competing with the iPad mini as it's too expensive for the cheap 7 inch market sector. A worthy competitor, I guess, as it has stereo speakers and more pixels (well, until iPad mini retina comes out, anyway), and Wacom.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mitchellvii:
Want to know why the Note 8 will dominate the Note 10.1? PPI. Do you realize that at 1280 x 800 x 8 inches the Note 8 will have about the same PPI as an 11.6 inch Full HD (1920 x 1080) tablet? In other words, pretty damned great. THE knock on the Note 10.1 has been lousy resolution. With a mobile CPU it seems 1280 x 800 is the best a tablet with a Wacom digitizer can manage lagfree. But at 10.1 inches, 1280 x 800 gives jaggy fonts and I hate jaggy fonts.

Two other big pluses for the 8.0. Although the form factor is smaller, it is wide enough to comfortably take written notes in portrait. It will also be easier to hold in one hand while doing this - that means it can be used comfortably while standing (like a doctor or a construction crew foreman might want to do). In addition, unless you have some big hands or like to use a split keyboard, thumb tying comfortably on the 10.1 has been a challenge. The Note 8.0 will be the perfect size for some speedy thumb typing.

I feel strongly that Samsung is not announcing the price of the Note 8.0 because they want to sell as many Note 10.1's to suckers as they can first. My bet is that the Note 10.1 will be EOL'd within 6 months of the release for sale of the Note 8.0. The Note 8.0 isn't too small. The Note 10.1 simply has 2.1 inches of unnecessary space. Note 8.0 will be the tablet the Note 10.1 was meant to be.

** People joke about how the Note 8.0 looks like a giant S3. So you are making a bigger version of your most popular phone of all time that you can also write on? I fail to see the hole in that strategy. Samsung KNOWS people love the S3, why mess with it?

** One side benefit of the Note 8.0 will be CHEAP Note 10.1's for sale. I am looking for retailers to drop the price to $399 for the 16 gb and Craigslist to blow up with people selling theirs to grab a Note 8.0.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] tehriddler:
Okay after looking at the Note II side-by-side with the S3 and with the Note 8.0, I realised that Note II and the S3 (and all other new Galaxy phones) share the same design. The different aspect ratios of the Note II and the S3 bodies make the corner curve radius look bigger on the S3 and smaller on the Note II. That's why the Note 8's body compared to the S3 rather than the Note II because of the similar aspect ratios of their bodies.

The hardware buttons shouldn't be included because who needs hardware buttons post-ICS especially on a tablet.

I just don't like the forced portrait mode! They could do the speakers like the HTC One because who uses stereo speakers when making a phone call holding the phablet against their ear? The power and volume buttons can remain on the top, and same goes for the camera as that's more suitable for video calls.

I'm sure they won't discontinue the Note 10.1 line because the bigger screen has the advantage of being closer to the size of an A4 paper. (And is good for Linux and ported Linux drawing apps where the buttons are too small.) Heck, the Tab 2 line comes in 7, 9 and 10 inch sizes! Keeping all their bases covered with every screen size from 3" to 10".
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
So why exactly are you *forced* to use it in portrait? I must be missing something, because I really don't see what the issue is.

Is it the hardware button placement? In landscape those buttons will be on the left or right - so what?

And in addressing the argument there shouldn't be physical buttons on a device post-ICS... I'm very happy with the extra screen real estate that FEATURE affords me, thank you very much!

Is it the speaker placement?

Honestly, I'll be watching movies and playing games with headphones anyway.

I have a nice pair of Creative WP-350 Bluetooth headphones with invisible Mic that will serve nicely - especially as I can use them to take calls.

(this also negates that ridiculous argument that this 'phablet' is too big to use as a phone).

I also just want to ask a question to everyone who is complaining about the size of the bezel:

Excuse me, but have you actually *thought* about the practicality of using this tablet? That bezel is the perfect size to hold in one hand so that you don't obscure the screen or activate buttons / apps by mistake.

If the bezel were any thinner, you would lose functionality and comfort.

I also want to bring up a point about the PPI... This is a Note device, so that means significant processing power has to go towards driving the Wacom Digitizer. If sketching / writing isn't a priority for you, then I really don't know why you are considering this device to begin with... But if it is a priority, then you want the screen resolution to be as low as is comfortable to use. Why? Obviously to have as much processing power available to minimize brush-lag.

As such, the screen resolution and PPI is just *perfect* for this screen size / processor.

Brush responsiveness > screen sharpness IMHO.

But honestly the sharpness is good enough for this screen size.

Just for interests sake - I have an iControlPad 2 (which is a miniature open-source Bluetooth keyboard with built in gaming controls + RGB backlighting) that i'm waiting to be shipped to me.

This simply will be an awesome accessory for the Note 8.0.

With the WP-350's I will have a complete portable solution for all my media, gaming, and productivity requirements. :)

The Note 8.0 is the all-in-one device I've been waiting for...
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Hamst0r:
Well, the formfactor 8.0 featuring S-Pen will be really great. My iPhone 5 in my pants pocket and the Note 8.0 at home or at work. I will never see the sense of such a big smartphone like Note or Note 2. The formfactor of the 8.0 is the perfect mix between screensize and weight and in my opinion a nice addition to a smartphone. :good:

I got an iPad Mini, it really impressed me with the formfactor of 8 inch (I also got Nexus 7) and I'm happy to get such a nice device with Android on it, galaxy note 8.0 you are welcome! :)
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] mitchellvii:
Well it looks like actual pricing for the wifi version of the Note 8.0 has just been announced in Australia and it is a whopping $459. Australia has a 10% GST tax already added into the price, so that equates to about $425 USD.

Seriously Samsung?

DOA. If they price the Note 8.0 at $425 in US it WILL NOT sell.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] salmonsushi:
Ignore Australia. It is a bloody anormaly where I bought my note 10.1 for 600AUD
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Toyeboy:
Wow the 16gb version? Samsung is out of their flipin mind if they price it that high in America because I need 32gb version and that would be $500. No damn way.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] PaulGG:
http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00BLLXAYU/ref=noref/277-0080025-7564974?ie=UTF8&psc=1&s=ce-de

Ouch!!!!!!! 16gig wifi 549€

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Really hope Amazon are taking the piss, I know the US get things cheaper but at today's rate 549€ = $711.39. :eek:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] HeartStrong07:
Price Not Unreal

Ipad Mini is priced between $329 and $659 and the GN 8.0 will have better display, better operating system, more RAM, and the S-Pen. If it falls around $450, that is in the ball park.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] spiff72:
I am on the fence here...

I have been STRONGLY considering the Note 8.0 as a replacement for my Nexus 7 (and as a companion to my Note II).

But then an online retailer threw a monkey wrench in the works by offering the 16GB Note 10.1 (Refurbed) for $336 bundled with a slip case and USB adapter. I am really thinking that I might be better off with the 10.1 since I intend to use it mainly at work (note taking) and at home (entertainment). I bought a similar bundle for the GTab 8.9, but ended up returning it because it just didn't have ANY dev support, and I thought that the then-rumored Nexus 7 would work better for me.

I plan to sell my Nexus 7 (which was just replaced under warranty - and remains unopened in the box) to partially fund whichever tablet I would go with. The price point is important to me - if the 8.0 is more than $400 I wouldn't go with it. The 10.1 at $336 seems like a pretty good deal!

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Update: The same place has the GN 10.1 (32GB) refurb for $352. This one isn't a bundle with the case or USB adapter though. It is also the black/gray version instead of white.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] con_oner:
I'm with you. But I'm hoping something like this will help get us closer to that reality.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2216311
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] salmonsushi:
Which part of software or hardware is note 2 worse than note 10.1? Delete the phone shortcut if you don't wana use it. I don't see what you are complaining?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Snow755:
i would get the Note 8.0 has it stans a better ch of geting android 5.0 later this year then the 10.1 8013 dos yes read some report that the note 10.1 may be geting android 5.0 but not sure if the one in the USA will be geting it

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-5-0-key-lime-pie-galaxy-s4-s3-note-2-note-8-0-note-10-1-galaxy-s2-note-android-4-2-2-jelly-bean-173132/
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
I have no first hand proof, but a couple of times I've seen reviewers say the s pen is smoother and more responsive on the note 8.0.

I will definitely be picking one up as soon as they become available in my country.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] speedfreak007:
Samsung recently released which phones/tablets will get 4.2.2 and which of those will stay on 4.2.2 forever. Note 10.1 was not one of them, so we are definitely getting android 5. This tablet isn't even a year old yet!

edit: you even linked to that list, so we are getting android 5

on topic: i think the note 8 looks like **** and I don't believe samsung will stop updating us note 10.1 users. We have the high end tablet
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] nymviper1126:
I have both and the N8.0 is noticably better.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
^ Well that settles it then.

Thanks for the confirmation. ;)

Now all I need to decide on is... Book cover or pouch?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] DownTFish:
If it makes any difference, I have noticed the book cover turns the screen off when you close it and on when you open. It seems there is a sensor somewhere around the left inch of the note 8.0.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] FaeMinx:
That is one plus point for the book cover.

I'm not fond of the book cover on my mother's Nexus 7 for two reasons:

1) It adds to the thickness and weight of the device.

2) unless the tablet is sitting stationary on a surface, the flap of the cover really is unwieldy - it gets in the way and is just a nuisance.

The pouch will give me the same benefits as the book cover when the tablet is either stationary or not in use, and has none of the negatives:

I would like to maximize on the portability (lightness/thinness) of the Note 8. Also, as my primary focus will be sketching... I need to comfortably man-handle, manoeuvre, and rotate the device... Having a big loose flap permanently attached to one side of the device would not help in this area...

From my perspective (as it currently stands), the pouch is better suited to artists, while the book cover will be a more convenient fit for business professionals and students.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] samjeremia:
400 bucks for a stylus hmmm a no. I have ativ 500T so I don't need it.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rfb813:
I have the book cover for my 8.0 and it is not very heavy, acts like a stand and turns the Note on and off when I open and close it. Very convenient.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] hung2900:
I love almost everything of the tablet except the SoC. Mali-400 gpu is so weak or lacks of optimizations

My Note 2 with the almost the same resolution as my tf101 cannot play as smooth as the very old Tegra 2 (a little bit oced to 1.2 GHz)

Very disappointed
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] fayn88:
nice tab 8.0:good:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Rottgrub:
Owning both, I can also confirm this. The screen on the 8.0 is much more sensitive to light pressure than the 10.1 version. As an artist, this was an issue for me. I tested many different 10.1 units from different stores at different times, and they were all consistently numb to light pen pressures when compared to traditional Wacom enabled tablet PCs.

The screen on the 8.0 is much more responsive, and will draw fine strokes with very light pressure applied.

That said, they are both awesome tablets. =)

Cheers.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] alicepattinson:
Another new device to look forward to. whoo! :highfive:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] RaptorMD:
I was interested in the GN 8.0 until I saw it only came with 16GB of internal storage, for the US at least. Why does Samsung have such an issue with crippling their hardware with 16GB. Put 32GB in the device, make the microSD capable of 64GB at a minimum and go for it. It can do more than an iPad mini but not if you don't build it out correctly.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] rfb813:
I have a 64GB micro SD card installed and operating. I formatted to exFat so that there is no problem with the device recognizing the card. I have installed videos and pictures on the card. No problems.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Juvenall:
Ignoring the hyperbole, the likely factor here is price. They already know they're pushing what people are willing to pay for a device in this class and are banking on the fact that for most consumers, 16GB is more than enough when coupled with the ability to extend up to 64GB with an external SD card.

For myself, on my 16GB Nexus 7, I choose to carefully manage the apps I had on the device at any given time and found myself with more than enough space to fit my needs. Granted, this did mean I wasn't walking around with a selection of Blu-Ray rips in my pocket, but that was just fine with me.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] qhinton:
That tablet is not that good. I had it charging port broke and windows was years behind in functionality. Go to a Windows forum
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] roustabout:
Given that Samsung is charging 400 dollars for the device, I agree that 16 gig of onboard storage is too little. 32 gig at retail costs less than 30, often much less.

If you take a look at the thread about mounting the sdcard under /sdcard0 you'll see why I have not returned the device - it's possible with some elbow grease to enable init.d and then to mount your sdcard as internal storage at boot time.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] moraymol:
i love my Note 10.1, and i don't think i will get a 8.0 since due to some identical spec.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] salmonsushi:
Sd card just suck for system storage and installing apps. Annoying, problematic, slow and frustrating. When I get a new note tablet I will buy at least 32gb. Preferably 64gb

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Btw I tried note 8 in store and s note palm rejection actually work. On my note 10.1 I cannot write a sentence without unwanted zooming. There should be a new s note version in the next firmware update, if Sammy doesn't delay it til 2015
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Vincent Vegas:
I was all set to buy the device on April 11th, but they only had a white 16GB version. I was all ready to purchase it, if they had a black or grey version with 32GB. I have no doubt they will release one like that, but it may be a while.

If the next Nexus has a 7.7 inch screen (which I have seen rumored, though most sources seem to think it will remain 7"), I'll probably just go with a 32GB version of that. I have a 32GB Nexus 7 now and love it. We will know more about the next Nexus in weeks - but a slightly bigger screen and solid specs will make me prefer upgrading my old Nexus 7for a new Nexus 7.

If Samsung had the version I want available on launch, they'd have my money in the bank right now. Wait and see.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] RaptorMD:
I had the Nexus 7 32GB as well, but I felt the 7" screen was too small for my daily needs at work, the 8" size would be more ideal. Also the fact that Google just doesn't get the fact that users WANT a microSD slot was another reason for selling it. Google should focus on the 7-8" tablet range, perhaps bump the Nexus 7 to a Nexus 8, offer microSD and 2GB of RAM. Of course Google will do none of this since they are of the mindset that we should just manage the memory. Really, why should I have to delete stuff off my tablet and d/l it again on WiFi, they don't even offer a 3G HSDPA+ version.

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I do understand price points are an issue for some, but really given how much people will toss at Apple it can't be that big of an issue. I was a big Apple user and just this year my wife and I replaced both her iMac and my MBP with new HP's (laptop for me, desktop for her), both of our iPod just crapped out and won't go out of Disk Mode and it just happened since moving to windows (7 for her 8 for me). I refuse to replace the iPods at all and found an old one lying around for her to use. For me I am holding out until the GS4 32GB arrives on AT&T so I can move over from Verizon.

All of that said, I am also getting rid of my iPad 4 LTE 128GB and ridding our house of all Apple stuff. So for me managing internal storage is not an option when you can't put apps on the microSD card (with out a lot of work and tweaking) and for what should be $50 for an extra 16GB I need that instead of a measly 32GB.

Samsung doesn't have to sell it in the retailers, sell the 32GB online, let those who want it order it, don't act like everyone is super cheap that uses Android, we aren't. We are power users just like anyone else.

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Completely agree with you and the Nexus 7 was too small for me, the 32GB without microSD was also an issue for me. I was hoping Google I/O would offer up something useful, but that isn't looking so great. I like Samsung and if I have to order elsewhere online to get what I want so be it, just annoyed that to get 3G its a 200+ extra :mad:
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] micaman:
I'm also sitting back and waiting to see what Google IO announces with the new Nexus 7. I originally was all set to pick up the Note 8 as soon as it was available, but after playing with it at the local Best Buy I couldn't help but feel that short selling myself without waiting to see what Google has up its sleeve. I was also disappointed with White only at release, perhaps if a Black one was available that day at Best Buy it would have been enough to put me over the edge and take one home.

Regardless, it should all sort itself out in the next couple of weeks.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Toyeboy:
I agree about the weak/old soc. The Mali 400 gpu is old tech now, and is obliterated by chips coming out now such as the snapdragons and anything from power vr. The 2nd generation Nexus 7 is supposed to have a Snapdragon and possibly full HD. I question Samsungs intelligence in putting the same old SOC in this tablet. I guess that's the only way for them to hit their profit margin. But it's not appealing enough to me when Nexus is just around the corner.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Vincent Vegas:
Yep, I'm with you. If they had the black 32GB I wanted on launch, I'd have bought it on the spot.

Now, it's just a matter of three weeks until we learn more about the next Nexus 7, and I wouldn't even be surprised if Samsung still doesn't have the black 32GB Note 8 available by then. I'll just wait and see what the next Nexus 7 will be like.

A 32GB Nexus 7.7" with HD screen will be a no brainer for me, especially at $ 250 or so as expected.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] clickchat:
Just saw this at Best Buy Allen TX - Brown Black. Although it is not in stock but active in their inventory. See Options in the upper right corner.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] Lumianti:
Does anyone know if samsung plans to use PLS technology on any of the future tablets?
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] pakure:
I have the note 2, awesome device. But it is small to really read my pdfs. My 2 yr old son has taken control of my Asus tf 300 pad. .. So, i was in the same boat thinking should i wait for newer devices?.... But none are impressive.

Some lack sd card (like the nexus line) some, like the xperia z tab are expensive, even other Samsung tab 3 versions are going to be dual core ...No other tab has the s pen and also the 8 inch factor is good..i trusted my happy experience with the note 2 and went ahead, bought the note 8 (Indian version with 3g+wifi)... love it... Don't worry about the screen resolution.... It is good enough for the size of the tablet.

If you keep waiting for the next super device, there always will be a new better one around the corner
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] sneakers13:
10.1 or 8

I was leaning toward the note 8 based on this review galaxy note 8 tablet but now you have me wondering about the 10.1. Maybe I want both...decisions!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] aalupatti:
If u r going to be carrying it around a lot then note 8
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) General] dr.m0x:
The screen resolution looks terrible on the note 10.1 just so you know.

Sent from the mighty Note II