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[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Believe I've been saying that for awhile....

It will be impossible for HTC to NOT release a device with that SoC and also NOT be one of the first OEMs to do so...
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

You really should read up on the S800... Its a big jump overall in the big picture.

Integrated modems unlike the S600 which requires a MDM chip to handle radios and such, its a newer process SoC, quick charge, voice action, ...oh and it can encode/decode 4k HD, plus a handful of other things....
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Plastic confirmed: http://androidheadlines.com/2013/03...be-made-of-plastic-executive-defends-why.html
[One (M7) General] PaKii94:
and yet they are still bashing sense :(. Yeah previous sense I didn't like much either but sense 4+ so far has been very smooth and beautiful.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
On the Review thread someone posted this review:

http://translate.google.com/transla...=http://www.swedroid.se/hands-on-med-htc-one/

They benched Basemark 2.0 taiji on the one and the padfone infinity (also s600 1080p):

The one scored 41 fps (what we already knew from a forum user - should be with menu button) vs 31fps of the padfone infinity.

The infinity they used for the benches was running with 4.1. So no new qualcomm driver.

It seems that the One beats all the other S600 devices in GPU performance atm.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

For me, I like HTC devices because of its quality. But I love HTC devices because of sense ui and features. I like my phones to look visually interesting. The stock android look of aosp doesn't atrack me one bit. Too simple and boring. Is my main reason why I can't make myself go with a different brand.
[One (M7) General] radiotrib:
... and NONE the tests which produced a higher frame rate than the HTC One were actually running 1080p ...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Except the leaked Samsung s600 device ;)

This site posts interesting benchs including the windmill test padfone Infinity results

More here: http://www.swedroid.se/hands-on-med-asus-padfone-infinity-mwc-2013/

It also confirms one single system partition like the One X+, ie: the entire storage is internal, 26.2GB free

Free RAM: 1567MB, 300MB less than the Nexus 4

Interesting website
[One (M7) General] rizzleboi:
That site states the screen is the third generation of gorilla glass, I thought it was the second...
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
there you have it right from the horses mouth

"Since we are shipping really large units, we always have to think how efficiently we can manage the manufacturability and also durability"

or

"we dont need to care about build quality because we know all the fanbois will buy it anyway lols"

I was really excited about the GS4 announcement, and i havent ordered the One yet, but this certainly settles it.

The only shame is that Samsung don't need to do any better, they know if they keep shoving it down the uneducated (not literally) masses throat they'll continue to lap them up
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
So basically he hates the build quality of the Samsung and Touchwiz and loves the build quality of HTC but dislikes Sense...well the logical winner there is...?
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Today, htc one is undoubtedly my choice but I'll wait 14 March before pre order and that's not about brand but about specs, components and features. Since Nokia E71 (metal) all devices I had Nokia, LG and samsung used plastic and I really don't mind, if I decide to buy HTC one because of zoe, camera or the gorgeous screen but aluminum won't make feel special. Maybe I'll buy the htc one because I don't like the idea of >5" phones but I want to see what samsung have to offer before.

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

I knew it .... Samsung will never listen to consumers ... They are too big now they know S4 will sell anyway just like Apple IPhone without much they manage to top thier sales. Samsung will only consider other materials if HTC One is a sucess then they will be forced it.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
ill probably wait too - i dont think there will be a shortage on launch, but even if there is I'm still happy with my Incredible S for another week or 2.

components are important, but the vast majority of people will be unaware of the differences in components between the two the vast majority of the time.

the design is something you experience every time you pick it up and i really hope people start to appreciate that HTC design is so vastly superior to samsungs... only then when they start losing sales will samsung create something that is beyond "good enough"
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The superiority in design from htc is something we just can't deny and I'm not even talking about plastic or metal but design itself. HTC one is a piece of art and I loved the front speakers, it's kind of ridiculous when you are showing some video to a friend and need to use your hand behind the device to get a better acoustic. I don't care about removable battery or expansion storage but I'm curious about performance and camera samples from GS4 - oh - and price. :)

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Have you guys seem the review by phones 4 u? I was impressed how zoe can snip out of the picture any object and keep the photo like if it had never been edited. I think that feature is awesome.
[One (M7) General] PapaRhino:
Yay it's plastic! Now I don't have to worry about debating between the two :P
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
XDA member uploaded the wallpapers from the HTC One, whilst at a HTC event in Italy.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2176629

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For many consumers having a removable battery is a major plus. Plastic is a wonder material, in terms of science! It also doesn't have to feel cheap, look at the Lumia 920, the designers just need to be creative in terms of textures / type of plastic used, I wait until I see an actual GS4 before passing judgement.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
More Info about HTC One's 'Boom Sound' technology.

"HTC One allows for 'distortion free recording' with dual membrane microphones"

http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-one-allows-distortion-free-recording-dual-membrane-microphones
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

There are so many advantages of using plastic regarding heat and removable battery..hell it can even be washed or dippped in water to clean it.thete are many phones out there with plastic. The only problem I have is that they design it poorly and their finishes are lame.. its funny when people who dont even know the advantages of plastic just go trolling over it..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Same with aluminum. It's rust free. Only real advantage of plastic for me is if it will get dropped it has higher chances of returning to it's original form. Unlike aluminum you'll pretty much end up with a deformed device. But on the bright side... What's the use of my otterbox anyways.
[One (M7) General] pandacat17:
I'm kind of worried that the HTC One won't work with ANY custom roms whatsoever (in terms of the camera). Would it be possible to port over the ultrapixel stuff to something like Cyanogenmod?

Very hyped about this phone though; I'm actually open to the possibility that the hardware will be good enough to make me overlook any potential development issues. :good:
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yup. Exactly..And that plastic helps with heat too. It stays longer..I do think that every materail has its flaws and highs. I know people consider glass as good too.. but here in south asia where its really hot, I bet I would land with smudges all over it and it wont look as good to me..

But those are just my circumstances and use and there are some people dont even care about the built as they put a case on as soon as they get it .. but htc has done a good job, that device looks hell beautiful even diregarding the materials used.. it would even make any htc previous sore users to look back and give it another chance.. I only wish samsung made a decent design even if its plastic.. even their new ces launched aluminium slim chronos laptop looks good .. they fail at designing their smartphones though..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] expertzero1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Sense ROMs will work.

A easy wild guess for asop roms. No
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Don't worry about the camera, the "ultrapixel stuff" isn't something that would be any more difficult than porting aosp to another phone

The image sense chip hasn't caused problems with other one series phones so I doubt it will be an issue

We will have aosp I know it
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks, goes to OP! :good:

HTC One allows for 'distortion free recording' with dual membrane microphones
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
exactly, the SGS3 had the worst finish, not even a metal barrier protecting the screen

the coating that was hyped as "hyper glace" is actually what we know as "lacquer" coating, yup similar to the coating over your wooden table

on my other mega thread i reported the story of my two bosses, both bought the SGS3 because "Samsung is better" than HTC

One of them had the screen split in half when it sustained a hit to the edge of the device (would never happen on an HTC because they protect the screen sides by metal barrier)

and the second one had his s3 "crunched" while in a pocket, a piece from the plastic barrier was "bitten" off and the lacquer pealed out

yes plastic can be great, if done properly like the non painted polycarbonate (hardest most costly form of plastic) unibody shells on the One X or the Lumia, my One X fell twice, once hitting the parking floor fully naked and the scratch is nearly invisible thanks to the non painted color on the shell, and the other is a full head on screen slapping to the marble floor, results? zero damage

Samsung used the very worst of kind plastic on the S3 and not at least a metal barrier to protect the screen is just a sin on such a costly device

Finally lets not fool ourselves nothing matches the feel of metal in your hand, simply hold the almost twins in design, the One X vs One S and you will immediately understand
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ultrapixel is not a sw feature, it's the actual camera module, so you will get that on any ROM, sadly you will not get any of the Image Sense chipset abilities (super fast focus and shutter, digital processing, HDR etc) since it's not open source

you will still get AOSP ROMs but the camera will simply be as good as the features on the N4
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
simply not true, you loose your camera features on the One X if you move to AOSP

in fact many are sticking to Sense just for that
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I have asked Faux123 about his Faux clock app

sadly we can not OC the Adreno 320 GPU using his app without a modded kernel, i was kinda of hoping it would work just by root
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
going back to my HTC is the underdog theory

lets see if anyone "LOLs" Apple for this

Beats is either 'in talks' with Apple over new music-streaming service, or it's just very good at marketing
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I agree that aluminium will feel damn good in the hand and will feel premium too imo.. my s3 has been in terrible falls.. road..concrete..wall.. and nothing has happened to the screen or the black plastic.. but I do have a lot of dents and scratches around the bezel to prove anyone that it has had some real critical falls.. the s3 I owned is still in pretty good shape except for those dents on the bezel..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Your Camera still works on cm/aosp though... Yeah not as many options and features but you can still use it. Will still be good in low light because that is a hardware thing.

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Blog: Distortion Free Recording with HTC One>>
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
There is no way that Zoe will be available on another Android device, is there?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
uses HTC's image sense chipset, so no
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
The CAmera works because the hardware is still there, it just won't use the ImageSense chip I think, it just becomes a basic camera, no magical tweeks or anythng cool from ImageSense.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One to hit Russia in April, to carry RUB 29,990 price tag>>
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this preview on the same 1.26.401.6 software, have some camera samples

http://mobilenet.cz/clanky/htc-one-mame-v-redakci-vyzkouseli-jsme-fotoaparat-s-ultrapixely-11478

the daylight photos are good but not as great as the One X, limited dynamic range

indoor light however is indeed better than the One X, with very little noise, although im not a fan of the colors during indoor

low light, im not impressed!

for all the hype and tech talk, really this camera should be delivering better, at least at night!

the tagline is "more pixels equal less quality"

so far i dont see this....
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
HTC's revenue slide continues into February

Source

Here's hoping that the One really will turn HTC's fortunes around!
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The only problem with the metal in my one S is being slippery, though the feel is really premium, hands down. And i expect no less with the One. ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea as always expect the coated black to be less slippery
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thats actually very normal, everyone knows a new global flagship on the way, no one would buy HTC now
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I hope that it will be less slippery than mine, as i'm not really fond of using cases, it's been totally bare naked since day 1. I also hope that the back of the One wouldn't left smudges and fingerprints, as the One S does..
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
i completely agree that there are advantages to plastics, theyre great - hell i will probably put a plastic case on my phone

traits such as being replaceable and durable are very important, and if the case was completely replaceable after taking damage you could maybe forgive samsung. either way, plastic does take more dressing up than other materials to give it the same appeal, and samsung still haven't succeeded at that - IMO the galaxy s3 looks like a sub-£200 cheapo smartphone - i suspect the s4 wil look and feel the same. look at the One in comparison... you remember that nokia titanium slider phone that came out years ago? its like comparing that to the nokia 3310 of the time in terms of materials - there is no comparison.

with regards to performance, i'm not sure exactly what polymer and grade samsung use in their phone casings, but you can be sure that the overiding factor in their decision process was cost and not performance. I would be interested to see technical drawings and material specifications of the aluminium and plastic used in both devices - but the overwhelming impression I get from looking at samsung products is that their phones are just expensive circuit boards with big screens packed into a piece of cheap plastic.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is no doubt about it, considering they make their own processors, screen, ram and everything in between

and yet like they admitted it, they built in large scale economics in mind

Samsung is putting a huge shunk of profit in their pockets

this kind of big margins really deserves to be called "ripping off"
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
completely agree.

no doubt samsung makes a relatively massive margin on their phones compared to HTC - but they're already market leaders, why would they accept any less?

im not sure if LG operates similarly to samsung in that produces many of its own parts, but if it does its clear that we will never see a nexus device from HTC with One quality that is anywhere near the nexus 4 price point, and that's a shame really
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well at least HTC got one thing right

the 13MP LG Optimus G Pro camera is not any better

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/LG-Optimus-G-Pro-Review_id3258/page/3#16-Strong-light

i still think the One X beats everyone else in good light....
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
sony phablet

6.44 inch 2560x1600 2K screen with OptiContrast and MBE-2

MSM8974 Snapdragon 800 quad core 2.3ghz krait with Adreno 330.

3 GB RAM

32GB Internal Memory

MicroSD slot

LTE

8 megapixel Exmor RS Camera

3500mAh battery

Touch Pen/Stylus

6mm thin

htc should consider a 5 inch + device with tegra 4...lol
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
This might not be the thread to comment on the Galaxy S IV, but I've just seen this article which has some screenshots from it:

http://www.gsm-israel.co.il/חדשות/בלעדי-צילומי-מסך-מתוך-ה-galaxy-s-iv

This is probably the AT&T variant, running Snapdragon 600 at 100 MHz higher than the One, however as far as I could tell there has been no significant changes to the UI at all.

This is the official stuff. Unofficially - I've got a friend who actually played with it. He owns an S3 and says that he couldn't tell the difference in the UI department. The unlock screen is now a sort of flare effect instead of ripple, and the home pages change "more dramatically" (his words). That's it.

In short - it seems to me they're playing it safe with it, and I didn't think it would be possible - but now I'm even more confident with my choice of the One.

Impressive, where did you get this from? I can't imagine it'd be out before December though. The 800 chipset is only slated for Q2, and there would probably be a lot of work to optimize the software for it.
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
got in from esato forum @ randomuser...out in early Q3....battery is decent only...4500 mah with max 10mm thick is better

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nowadays choosing a phone is harder choice for me than other gadgets....keep playing the waiting games...
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
The resolution for that size is moronic, though the same can be said about 1080p on the coming phones. But seriously, 1080p would be perfect on that size, why waste all that power for exactly nothing?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Some interesting info from our HTC Elevate friend Ahmad Aziz (after the Egypt launch event)
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
agree....with 2k resolution just eat more battery...and not much apps n games optimize for such high resolution yet...:D
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

@hamdir Did he mention anything about upgrading camera software in the retail version? Stuff like the aggressive jpeg comp we've seen in early shots.

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it's actually a hot topic at elevate right now, awaiting answers
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Bang!

Still have to see the black and silver live and in my hand to choose!!
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
the molten metal dye thing sounds like BS to me aswell, i cant imagine a dye that wouldnt decompose in molten aluminium...

I reckon we are looking at something more like this:

http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-black-anodizing.htm
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I really dont understand the heavy compression either. It's. The easiest way to destroy the quality of a picture, no matter how much effort is put into the camera...
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
If it's a Phablet maybe they are going to aim it towards digital artists, people who might like that resolution and then can port their work over into photoshop on a desktop or something?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
more coverage regarding the dual layer microphones

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/06/htc-dual-membrane-microphone-claims/
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
There is a huge lack of live pics of the black version, I wonder if it's not intentional by HTC.

Perhaps they produced way more silver One(s)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is a huge lack of everything to be honest...

as the actual launch is imminent no reviews is just surprising, reviews build hype
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I guess there is an HTC One in the title so it's not OT :)

Benchmark: Samsung Galaxy S4 beats HTC One, But Not Tegra 4 (RUMORS)

as a Reference:

the HTC One scores:

Total score: 22,678

2D graphics at 1920×1080: 1226

3D graphics at 1920×1080: 5618
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
You think they will postpone the release?

Now we have 8th,12th,14th and 16th of March as potential dates...Only even numbers :eek:
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

There wasn't a single black unit at the City Tour event I went to last weekend.
[One (M7) General] schrickm5:
...and the GS4 will probably still lag 2 seconds when opening up your Contacts/Phone (as did my GS2, and as does my GS3).

I don't suppose this difference is anything to do with the MHz each phone is running at? I know the graphics will be related to the GPU, but the overall scores must be to some extent affected by MHz?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
We saw higher scores of the one.

Just for example:

The Droid Dna scored: 2d:1610 and 3d: 6101 (= 7711 gpu points)

(source: http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=2728)

The one scored 8271 in gpu (with the menubar):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl1dmNhhcXs

In basemark 2.0 the performance decrease due to the remove of the menubar was about 5%. So we would still end up at ~ 7857,45 gpu points.

This is about the same as the s4 (Both not on final software)
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I don't think those antutu scores would be worth comparing for performance.

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i agree antutu is unreliable in the specific scores, except the general score gives a rough idea
[One (M7) General] MrPhilo:
Never had this problem, nor have I seen others posted lag of 2 seconds on the Galaxy S2/3, I've had both as well.

Anyways, the Snapdragon 600 should be better overall in battery life imo. The die size of the Exynos Octa is gonna be stupid, 4xA15, 4xA7 and SGX544MP3 even if its a 28nm. A better solution would be 2xA15 and 2xA7.

Plus who cares about benchmark anyways, the SoC this year should handle everything fine.
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

My point was that it has caused problems with the camera working, as if you needed the image sense chip to work for the camera to work