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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
If there is ever an s800 One+ I think I would crack, give the first one to my wife and take the next (I've been holding her from updating just for that, plans to get her a white one x are already cancelled)

I would only worry about thermals to be honest, been enjoying HTC's return to its Qualcomm roots, I really hope both of them keep pushing on the game front like they did at GDC
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Haha, "poor wife" :laugh: (ok, if she gets the one instead of the one x, she´s lucky)

Didnt htc promised that there will be only one highend device aka no + variant?! If there would be a + with s800, it would be really hardnot to buy it... but i think they would rather go with the 8064 ab to not annoy their "normal" one customers.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Hahah actually she can't part her Sensation XL simply because the entire front is white and built better, this why the white One X was cancelled (plus funny enough it turned out to be one of the very early batches with weak wifi) all attempts to convince her to try my black One X failed of course :)

Considering the demand HTC my try and stick with a one policy this year for the flagship but it all depends on the sales, they are trying to pull out from the camera spec race and they might attempt all the same with the processor as well

If some higher specced device regrabs the worlds attention however, they might cave into a refresh
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Tweet him and ask? :P Also you bought a One which is good :) which one? & how much for if you dont mind me asking. I hope yours has no issues!
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
there u go adreno 330

current s600 s4 score 957 frames and htc one 928 frames
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Roots? Wasn't the One X the only mainstream HTC Android device that wasn't powered by Qualcomm? And even then its US variants were Qualcomm as well.

Admittedly there have been a few lower-end HTC devices with MTK chips.

Either way, I agree. Love Qualcomm's SoCs.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Just got my update :)

I'm in the UK with an unbranded handset.
[One (M7) General] @home:
Sim Free, Yes?

Have you noticed any improvement?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
No. I have a sim through TalkTalk.

TalkTalk use Vodafone frequencies so I'm basically on a Vodafone sim I guess...
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
No your software number what is it?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
1.29.401.12
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Oh wait it is sim free I have it now.
[One (M7) General] @home:
You can use any sim card you like in your phone is what I meant? Hence Sim Free?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'd assume so as the handset is unbranded...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Faux Kernel released
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Pocketnow (Jaime Rivera): Sorry Samsung, I’ve Changed My Mind, I Want An HTC One
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One variant appears in code: Verizon may be brewing
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Haha, great. Jaime was the only one on pocketnow "supporting" the s4 after the launch. Now he´s back on the right side. :good:

So basically a >5" Plastic Htc One without micro SD?!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so i just saw the sgs4...really? :)

anyway so i started talked with the sales guy about the HTC One and he said HTC makes the best phones too bad no one knows about them, so the S4 buyer asked me what is that? HT what? (i didnt know where to start) we told him its a competitor with similar specs and then asked the inevitable question

is it eight cores like the S4? :laugh: i gave up, congratulated him on his new s4 and left...

meanwhile:

Samsung says the Galaxy S4 design is 'like nothing you've ever seen before'
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Pocket Lint didnt like the camera

HTC One camera review
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
he is still an idiot, check my opinion about the One X part here
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I've tried the one, sgs4, and xperia z in stores. I tried the xz first, it feels very awkward to hold, it's very rigid at the edges, feels too big to hold and use with one hand. The software is almost the same as the old Sony phones. Then I asked for the one, which I thought they don't have, but luckily they do have a demo device. Silver ht34h 1.29 perfectly built. When I first held it, after playing with the xz, I can say that the one is just stunning. Feels much more premium, fits much better in hand, very comfortable to use with one hand. Thanks to the curved back, it feels thinner than the xz. Then I tried the s4, don't want to say much about it, when I look at it, it strangely looks small, don't know why.

The 16gb octa s4 is already available and the one Is only available for preorders. 16gb octa s4 is even more expensive than 32gb one...

Xz and one cost $734, s4 cost $760

I've preordered a silver one, I will get it at around may 4th , waiting for this phone is just painful
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
5 days? :)
[One (M7) General] patato2:
wooo if it only take 5 days he's lucky already.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
SGS4 4+4 tops the one in BaseMark X:

BaseMark X On-Screen score 9.221 FPS

BaseMark X Off-Screen score 8.898 FPS

My One (stock):

BaseMark X On-Screen score 8.120 FPS

BaseMark X Off-Screen score 7.474 FPS
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
May 2 at the earliest, may 8 at the latest :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Posted by [MENTION=3194938]androidindian[/MENTION] but should be here as well

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
onscreen are higher?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
yes, test runs without menubar on the one
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC stock nears three month high as analysts deem the HTC One an “impressive flagship phone”
[One (M7) General] Stephen:
Moderator warning,

I have deleted multiple posts that compare phones with another phone. This is against the rules and is not allowed. Any further comparisons from this point may lead to infractions being given.

You have been warned.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
You deleted my gpu "comparisson" post? Cmon... We are discussing gpu performance and compare gpu performance since the beginning of that thread... without bashing ANY device. Its more the "scientific" way
[One (M7) General] Stephen:
Spoken to another forum moderator about this and have undeleted the posts. As they are very specific features you are comparing we can allow these.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Did you post a new one other than the basemark one?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
nope
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Would like to hear your thoughts on this:

1. Do you think that with time and usage (sun, dirty etc) tha white sides and back bands of the silver version will get yellowish?

2. In a couple of weeks, will we have a way to check which microphone is on our unit?
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Seems like nguyenkendy came across an all grey double dip hard case..

I investigated the HTC website and saw this under accessories.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
1. If its the same material like the htc one x, then no.

2. Idk
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The wirecutter: Best Android Phone, Spring 2013

Check the conclusion of the article ;)
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Steve Kovach thinks that HTC ONE won this round in the android world

You know whats funny though... for months everyone was conjecturing "will SGS4 finally be a Iphone killer?". But know all you hear is: "if you're an Iphone user and want to switch, definetly go for the HTC ONE."
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC 608t spied, brings dual speakers to a One SV-like design

very similar to desire SV
[One (M7) General] shox22:
The back is nice... but the front... too much bezel
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Thanks to puremind for the tip

we can change color calibration using Faux's Advanced Color & Gamma Control

root is needed ofcourse
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/04/29/samsung-nexus-11-octa-core-google-i-o/

Oh that sounds powerful :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sorry it's fail

the Mali605 was proven weak for the N10 resolution

the iPad 554MP4 was just enough for the Retina screen but in real use unable to match the iPhone 5 real world gaming

and the 544MP3 will be even weaker for the N11 insane resolution, we have already seen it just match Adreno 320 and in fact it's lagging in certain 1080p games, on the N11 it has to deal with 2x 1080p and no OC in the world will save this

the weak GPU problem on the Nexus 10 range its still unsolved, in fact this is android's main problem and nothing is being done to deal with this

and its funny how "eight core" suddenly became an acceptable name for a 4+4 configuration, piss poor journalism feeding on misconceptions

stop churning out more CPU power that we are not even using, what we need is GPUs

I would love to see the N11 with Snapdragon 800 at full speed, the aging 544MP3 scores 40fps while Adreno 330 scores 57fps, in a pixel stressed tablet, s800 is a dramatically better SOC
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
Maybe Tegra 4 or 5 should handle such resolutions. The rest is definitely to weak atm.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION],thanks for your opinion on that I only had a short look at the specs, they sounded quite good but now I know better again :)

Why does Samsung get another nexus phone if that source is at least a but trustfull?! Samsung did a lot of wrong things in the early last .

Build quality is really low,they have an unbelievable amount of bloatware installed on the s4,...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
being a typhoon like Samsung makes the world easier on you, and they don't get another Nexus phone, the N11 is a tablet

Samsung intentionally feeds us small iterations when it comes to GPUs it's how their supposedly monstrous SOCs suddenly become outdated and you have to upgrade, do i need to remind of the Mali400 repeat on the SGS3?

why did they not adopt the more powerful Malis? the design been ready since 2 years

i am so angry at treating the GPU as an after thought in the Android world under the press applauding, how silly is it that iPad 4 reviewers said the GPU is very powerful and wont be used before a year when the iPad 3 was clearly unable to match the iPhone 4s, it turns out even the iPad4 GPU struggles in some current games, yet for most reviewers the supposedly informed and tech educated, CPU numbers matter the most

Apple is the only decent chip maker which at least tries and hopefully the new approach by Nvidia in T5, Qualcomm as we saw with Adreno 3xx is starting to do right, Samsung stopped doing right since the SGS2
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Interesting view from a Motorola based/roots and Nexus/vanilla android fan website:

Why the Unlocked U.S. Version of the HTC One is My New Phone [Opinion]
[One (M7) General] Rick_1995:
What's even more funny is the amount of thermal throttling on the "octacore" exynos5.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Sigh so its true? And yet everyone was attacking us for those concerns...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Where is the HTC One tablet?
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
I honestly don't think it would be a good idea for HTC to go down the tablet route.

While it would be a different angle for HTC to target and may go down well with some people, I think the general consensus would be for HTC to stick with phones.

If they were to release a tablet, they'd need to be careful not to go down the Samsung route - making tablets which aren't an upgrade on their phones (except for the size). Also, could HTC really keep the premium look and feel of the One but on a tablet instead? I'm not too sure they could.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Apparently Gameloft has optimised their games for the GS4, which basically means the Qualcomm Snapdragon version, so the HTC One will benefit as well.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/04/2...l-of-popular-games-for-the-samsung-galaxy-s4/
[One (M7) General] Rick_1995:
Yeah. My friend just got his i9500, He can't even hit 10,000 in quadrant.
[One (M7) General] patato2:
I prefer thicker bezel! thin bezel looks modern for sure, but thick bezel delivers a sturdy feel. looks like I am against the trend :cool:
[One (M7) General] yahyoh:
29k antutu :cool::cool:

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[One (M7) General] patato2:
The octa core seems to be getting hot easily, I've seen quite some guys saying their octa core S4 is uncomfortable to hold due to temperature, especially those come from S3. Maybe Samsung is not yet optimizing the octa core , but the metal case used on One does have its advantage here.
[One (M7) General] Rick_1995:
Yeah, well. I believe more in a test conducted in my own hands with an off-the-shelf device instead of some random russian review site using review units.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
I don't think they should build an android tablet unless they can bring a unique software experience. I don't think anybody would by a high end tablet to run poorly optimised apps even for HTC's build quality.

Maybe if they went the Windows 8 pro route I would be interested.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Yep phablets are more sold than tablets,look at the Note 2...HTC should do a 5.5'' phablet with Sense 5,it would be awesome
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Maybe HTC should make the next butterfly globally with 5.5 inch, s800, aluminum body, and not make any one +
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
As I've said from day one, it should have been called a Quad-Duo or something like that, saying it's an octa-core is a complete misnomer.

I think the One is looking more and more like the handset for 2013+
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
especially since your original point was about throttling
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
To the uninformed masses, 8 cores is 8 cores. It sells better.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Well in that case if it 'under performs' for an 8-core phone expect the bytchiness to ensue!
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
We're getting OT here, but it wouldn't matter. It'd be good enough to be sold in vast quantities. There's only a small group inside our small group (power users) that really cares about benchmarks, however with a device this powerful overclocking isn't really needed.

I can't speak for everyone, but I just want a phone that would make me smile whenever I use it, have a decent battery life and customizability.

More features (logo2menu for example), smoothness and better power handling is what I'm looking for when customizing my phone.

The Sensation made me smile after the ICS update, and even more so after moving to ViperS (Sense 4).

So far I wasn't frustrated even once with the One, the smile won't come off.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
This would make me smile every time I use it...

True though, you made some good points there.

I loved my Sensation after the ICS updates :)

I sometimes genuinely miss that phone.
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
Sadly I've read that the S4 is playing the games more smoothly than the HTC One.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Cool Smartphone: Editorial – HTC are back
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Should be due to the 50mhz gpu frequency and 4.2.2 drivers. We can fix that. But the question is: How long will the s4 s600 can play the games more smoothly?

Looks like BOTH s4 variants get EXTREMLY hot (not nice to touch). Maybe the 1.9ghz + 450mhz gpu is too much...

out of the german sgs4 forum:

ich finds schon extrem heiss und bin schon am überlegen es zurück zu geben. (sd600)

translated: Well I find it extremely hot already and I'm already thinking on giving it back.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and don't forget CPU/GPU governors

The make me smile thing applies the HTC One X as well after the 3.x firmware
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Where do you get yours from? Other country or will you buy one of the expensiv ones? Will you instant root?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it's an EMEA unit shipping from outside

still anxiously waiting the shipment mail...most likely instant root after i make sure its an ok unit
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems HDR microphone was pulled from the spec list

lets hope they will find a good replacement...
[One (M7) General] simba2585:
still there on UK site.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40878735&postcount=8
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
No it's not...

NB. I cut this from the htc UK site.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Poetic Atmosphere Case for HTC One M7 Clear/Gray (Update Version)

interesting cover, but im still looking for the perfect slim transparent one
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
My phone arrived today (got to wait till I get home from work though) so I'm hoping it it perfect so that I don't have to worry about not having the old Mic on the replacement.
[One (M7) General] simba2585:
yeh it was as of a few minutes ago at the time of my posting. but has since been updated.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Comic relief provided by the HTC ONE

Watch this from 0:30min to 0:40min. The rest of the video is offtopic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sp-zuEr8hUs
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so this how it is? this sort of "bullying" attitude, i see it everywhere by opposing fans and he is no different

similar to some of my iPhone friends "a freaking HTC loooooooool"

like some sort of an insult
[One (M7) General] jesr:
You can also take other points of view:

1. epic trolling by the journalist

2. simple fact of HTC ONE being present makes top execs itch

lol I found it funny but if you guys think it's inappropiate I delete;)
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Looks nice, except it covers the IR blaster.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Underclock /undervolt the CPU then overclock the GPU, it works wonders on passively cooled devices, of course these devices will still get hot.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
why would it be inappropriate, i just was trying to explain his reaction :)

i meant his joke, i dont get :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Please can we not mention Exynos 5410 (Octa) anymore, the level of the discussion is generally technically of a very low quality, and demeans this thread, we don't want the level of derp found on the GS4 forums.

Also, it is a Samsung SoC, this is a HTC forum, you're never see a Exynos in a HTC. Exynos Octa does have some interesting academic appeal, but that requires an objective and deep dive into it's uArch and kernel.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
my discussion of the Exynos Octa on board the Nexus 11 is of low quality? i disapprove i strongly stand by my GPU point of view

it's very easy to draw a picture of real world performance of the 544MP3 GPU on a high density device like the N11

iPad 4 = 43fps @ 2048x1536

Nexus 10 = 28fps @ 2560x1600

Nexus 11 = 33fps @ 2560x1600 (@ GS4 clocks)

we always discussed SOCs on these threads what is the problem again?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
first time i have seen this, very nice

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[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Firstly, I didn't call you out, I've always enjoyed your GPU discussions, my remark was aimed at the thread in general. Spend some time over on the GS4 forums, the level of moronic comments actually makes it hard & unpleasant to discover the good information, on this thread we've managed to steer a relatively clear path, thus far.

On the CPU side, Octa and its 4+4 In-Kernel-Switching uArch is new technology that is isn't fully understood yet, Samsung definitely struggled to fabricate the chip, there are 4 revisions listed in its kernel source, there is also the risk that Samsung's chassis & software are limiting the SoC, as well as the feeling that 5410 was a tablet chip, that they hoped would also work in smartphone. Discussing Samsung's work-in-progress SoC, only serves to reduce attention away from the One, it's what Samsung PR wants!!

GPU discussion is a good thing, but even that risks falling prey to reductio ad absurdum The assertion that GPUs are weak on Android / mobile platforms in general, despite an increase in performance over the last few years far greater than the progression from A8 to A15 CPU cores, ignores the key tenants of mobile devices, limited battery / cooling and power draw. The increase in GPU perf has been amazing, despite not having the ability to significantly ramp power / heat as a means of chasing the performance dragon. The ramp in GPU performance is not the issue, the problem lies in the crazy increase in resolution. If resolution remains static, the issue will be resolved largely due to smaller process node, and innovative techniques like 3D TSV stacking to boost bandwidth, I predict that 4K resolutions in tablets isn't too far away, in that case the resolution tail will wag the GPU dog once more.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
They have a new TV spot in the UK

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Do you guys think that HTC should do shows like this one, to promote the ONE?:angel:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/29/4...4-in-india-with-terrible-gangnam-style-remake
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4041989]Turbotab[/MENTION] see? your entire post was a joy to read (including the exynos part)

so why do you want to deprive us from this?

as for the GPU, i still dont agree, Apple have the same constraints and doing better

lets take your own advice lately :)

"reduce the CPU and raise the GPU" which requires root, in a way Apple is doing something similar, they somehow balance better between CPU And GPU boost

on Android the specs race is aggressively seeking CPU power under heavy thermals and throttling (its almost as if all they care about is the first 5 minutes scores rather than actual power use), the GPU is always a slight bump, rarely the 2x we see by Apple, more over Android OEMs did worse by pushing high res panels (HTC to blame as well)

This is why for 2013 i'm finding the HTC One the most balanced so far, i was very negative toward both the 1080p jump and lack of GPU brute earlier, but i found some peace when Adreno 320 turned out much better than we thought (Better than the stock implementation on the N4) so what makes the One more balanced? well the CPU is not clocked above 1.7ghz or a crazy Octa and as confirmed by our numerous tests the metal shell is actually a good thing and the device has much better thermal management

after the thermal hell of the One X, throttling hell of the Nexus 4 and SGS3, reports of throttling on the SGS4 2 editions, i am not being biased if i find the HTC One a better balanced device when it comes to SOC and more importantly it's implementation

Bottomline its the most elegant Android solution at the moment and i agree with anybody drawing parallels to the iPhone, which is that product key strength, quality, refinement and good balance of specs
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys enough with the jokes please, it's not tasteful for everyone
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
How to SIM unlock the HTC One for free
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
New Deal: AT&T HTC One (32GB): $149.99 available from amazon.com
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
one more review (if anybody cares at this point)

http://mybroadband.co.za/news/revie...=Buffer:+janvZA+on+twitter&buffer_share=94871
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
HTC One is critically acclaimed device but the problem for HTC is manufacturing it enough, leave alone selling. It was supposed to be launched last week here in India but still no news about it, even at retail stores or from HTC support.

S4 is just gonna have a free lunch here (it also helps its cheaper here than the One). Damn HTC. Cant do a thing right. They will regret it later ignoring such an important and fast growing market as India!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well the thing is, its true, short supply heck i still didnt get mine but the nice thing the HTC One has a long span ahead of it, lets remember its not only fighting Samsung but also the iPhone (actually internally HTC is more focused on Apple) so they have till June 2014 before Apple throws the next big thing, the 5s will be an incremental revision

Apple relents: iPhone 6 with larger display reportedly due in June 2014
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so what are you really asking? rushing the device even faster with more defects? the iPhone 5 had similar shortage at launch due to the metal casing as well
[One (M7) General] DynamicRam:
Someone achieved S-OFF

http://bbs.fengbao.com/thread-1397562-1-1.html
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
It says that the guy used white card (don't know what it is, maybe you guys know)