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[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Well at the moment what HTC needs is luck and marketing, nothing else.

8 cores cpu? not all of S4 devices will have.

air scrolling? nothing too practical.

design? One is way better.

SD slot and battery? some people talks about it but in truth most people don't care about it. (it could be good but it's not vital)

and I believe prices is in favor of HTC too, at least in europe.

So, I believe HTC has one shot for glory, they better make it count. I really don't want them to go in bankruptcy (or whatever you call it in english) because they've been really innovative and their devices have always been standing out of crowd even when they didn't sell well. I'm wishing them best of luck
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

lol, I dont care if u believe me or not.. I said htc is doing it wrong in terms of their strategy.. if u find it tough to believe, then it because you arent reading my post with an open mind..

Thats exactly my point...i did say that in my posts.. people wont care if they dont use that slot.. having a slot sells it.. not many users would use it.. but having a slot would definitly sell it for my father and non geeky people I know..

I know I use it but a 64 gb might do fine... but thats a minority.. doesnt mean htc has to remove it seeing that its not on top of the race.. people like your dad and my dad are the public.. not us..nor xda..sd slot sells , even if only a minority use it.., put a slot in..

When yiu are down the race, you follow them and then beat them by providing more consumer options..not follow what htc thinks is only needed

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[One (M7) General] mang0:
Having the slot might sell it... not having the slot might also sell it. In the end, it'd probably come down to the cost.

I'm assuming that (for the U.S., where I live) average users only upgrade their phone at the point of signing a 2-year contract for the discounts. If 16gb S4 retails for the same price as 32gb One, then most people who know nothing about how much space they need would just get a 32gb One because that's just how it comes (without adding cost). Of course, this is assuming that they do retail at the same price (which I think will probably be the case), and I would say most people don't want to spend more money on top of the phone they will be receiving.

Obviously in the end, this whole argument probably comes down to what types of things are sacrificed for cost, but still...
[One (M7) General] glen.ricky:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Besides sd card dont forget about removeable batteries. I dont know about other guys but for me, I never see my friends bring double batteries. They just have power banks and thats it.
[One (M7) General] mang0:
One isn't even going to compare to the phone that I have now battery-wise (Epic 4G :p), but anyway...

I definitely agree. I'm the person that bought double batteries for my phone and have probably used it a total of 1 time because I'm either too lazy to bring it, or I forget to charge it after I change it out.

I don't personally know anybody that switches batteries out in their phones. It would, of course, be useful as an extra feature, but it would definitely change the seamless design of a unibody.
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

No sdcard slot, no problem. My GNex doesn't have it either and I never fill the 16Gb storage. If 64Gb isn't enough for the ppl complaining they should really consider to review their concept of what data is essential to keep on the phone or use the cloud.

No removable battery, no problem. Using a gadget like ZaggSparq I could explore the jungle for days and it's cheaper than 3 extra batteries.

http://m.zagg.com/power/Z34ZSPARQ600SLV

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
hamdir not sure if someone has provided you with a link or if it is here already but here you go mate

galaxy s4 camera vs htc one

http://gsminsider.com/2013/03/15/samsung-galaxy-s4-vs-htc-one-camera-quality-comparison/
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yup... some people might not use it.. but they would like it.. iphone has the luxury to remove it.. hell even if they sell phones that dont even have a screen, people will buy it.. they have the luxury to ..htc doesnt.. htc did make dumb choices the last three years and they are paying for it ..

And people were complaining mainly about swapping batteries because the old htc's had crapppy battery.. crappy battery + unibody= isnt good... but since I think they have managed that part, they might sell well

But there are are sore htc users out there who hated the fact they had bad batteries and non removable backs... even if htc made the battery better this time, how many non geeks who were sore htc users who hated the battery life in it are gonna go back to htc when they see a non removable panel and when they dont read xda or non tech sites like us..

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[One (M7) General] mang0:
Well, I'm sure they are trying to be more like iPhone just because Apple products sell so well. It's a good goal to attain for HTC. :p Too bad their battery size has to go up in such small increments everytime they make a device.
[One (M7) General] thaiboyger:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

All about htc one is good but i dont understand why they use ddr2 as ddr2 is slower and uses more energy 1.8volt compare to ddr3 with 1.5volt

ddr3 is double as fast as ddr2

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[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Just been in 3 asking about the One. Manager literally said to me ' why do you want that? It's s*it, let me show you a phone that destroys it' .... Walks me to the shocking Z.

Main argument was... 13mp vs 4mp
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
I have no idea why he would say that, perhaps he prefers Sony or his store has been sponsored lol?
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread
[One (M7) General] mang0:
Or he doesn't want to sell phones / make money. :p
[One (M7) General] zehoo2:
I would imagine that is because he has stock of the Z in store now and wants to make a sale before you leave the store. A tactic that works on non tech people.
[One (M7) General] happysteveo:
Probably because he needs to sell more of the Sony!
[One (M7) General] thatscooldude:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Or its maybe because samsung paid him.. oh wait.. this time it was sony..:p

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[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Heres the new comparison between Xperia Z and HTC One , quiet good imho. Link

Looks like xperia has better focus on close ups , tho i believe this guy didn't take good pics, HDR would do better.

HTC One

Xperia Z

HTC One

Xperia Z

HTC One

Xperia Z

HTC One

Xperia Z

HTC One

Xperia Z
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

All they care is selling you a contract, other day happened to me while I was on phone with sales team.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
HTC ONE vs Nokia 808 (camera):

http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/16/htc-one-vs-nokia-808-pureview-camera

For those who know about photography how that look to you?
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Whatever peoples opinion on SD card, HTC really should have included it. They put it in the Chinese model, so there was absolutely NO excuse not to put it on the Global model.

Just imagine how many more sales they would get if they just added that 1 feature.

I can understand no removable battery - it has to do with design integrity. But not including an SD Card was complete BS.

And to whoever says USB OTB is a replacement for SD Card, stop kidding yourself. An SD Card is much more discrete and compact. I think we should really be more critical of HTC for not including this feature.

I would encourage ppl to ask HTC on twitter why they don't include a SD card when they include it on the chinese version.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I watched this earlier and the first thing the came to my mind was, htc was right. Yes the 808 takes more detailed pictures, but for having a 41mp camera, the one's 4up camera stands its ground very well. In a few pictures I really couldn't tell much of a difference. I even thought that 1or 2 pictures where better coming from the one. Thats just myopinion.
[One (M7) General] androidesta:
interesting !!

interesting !! :good::good::good::good:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The butterfly and One are different phones, I do agree they probably could have such the sd card slot in the sim tray..
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
I spend a good 5 hours a week watching video on my phone on London Underground trains. If you can explain how to stream high-definition video from Cloud storage under those circumstances, then I'm all ears. Given that a two-hour movie at 720p takes up well over 3GB, there's a sharp limit to how much of it one can store in 26GB. If the 64GB version of the phone were actually available in this country, that might be an option, but it isn't, and we've no idea when or even if it will be.
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
Plug in a USB OTG. for when you're on the tube.
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

USB OTG?

Or you could just change the vids when you get home?
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
That's what I do. I only ever sync movies i'm going to watch and remove those that i've watch recently.
[One (M7) General] Aidey68:
from Techradar review...

:D
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
Love the quote! :good:

BTW I'm having second thoughts about HTC One. Maybe wait for next flagship .. They might increase the 4 to maybe 8 MP so more detail. I saw the photo shoot between N808 I have to say HTC have done an excellent job. Best camera in Android section. I hope HTC will not ditch Ultra Pixels if HTC One didn't live up to thier expectation.
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
If I'm not wrong 8 mp will be kinda hard in a short time. But they'll go for 5-6 for sure.
[One (M7) General] thaiboyger:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

8ultra mp is hard as they need 16mp sensor but maybe 5-6ultra mp is pssible

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[One (M7) General] glen.ricky:
As far as I know its not going to be better or even possible with the same quality if they keep with the same sensor size. Just imagine this, you have 100m^2 room which can hold 10000 tiles so then each tile is 100cm^2. But if each tiles is 1m^2 size, you only will get 100 tiles. You can get 1m^2 size tiles and have 10000 but then you have to increase the room size.

So then, the room size = sensor size, tiles size = pixel size (in sensor) and amount of tiles = pixel count.

HTC in the One change the pixel size to be bigger so it could receive more light and would have better low light shot.

If you see N 808 Pureview specs, it has larger sensor size. Thats why smartphone camera never be able to match SLR shots because the sensor is different
[One (M7) General] Diamondback:
Just to add some additional information here:

Have a look at this link:

http://j.mp/YyAi1l

Or this image:

It's a comparision of digital image sensor sizes.

See that tiny tiny, yellow rectangle? Yea, that's the sensor size of most modern smartphones.

The green one is the Nokia 808 Pureview.

Blue is the size of a common DSLR sensor (APS-C)

Pink is the a sensor of a pro level DSLR (full frame)

(There are even bigger sensors after that, but they don't really matter here)
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

With the omnivison sensor that was announced which has 16mp, capable of recording 4k and 1080p at 60 fps with OIS. All HTC have to do is tweak it and increase the pixel size to 2-3 UM and then they will have a 8mp ultra pixel. Their was also a chinese company or it was a uni that has been able to produce xenon flash much smaller than the ones placed in Nokia devices which is scheduled at the end of 2014 but we may see them in Q1-Q2 2014. All HTC need to do it place a camera shutter button like the one they placed on the evo3D.

The more detail that is added to small things like buttons can really improve the user experience and design. I think the purpose of a flagship device is to place all the experience of a company with some unique features packed in one device. It's really ashame the HTC one doesn't have a camera button like the Amaze or evo3d. I also think they should have placed a ad card because they could of if they wanted to. The more S4 features the HTC One has including the removable battery and sd slot the more easier it becomes for users to choose the One over s4.

Providing the fact HTC choose not to include a sd slot, removable battery, waterproof and dust proof it only gave Sony and Samsung a chance to give reasons why you should choose their devices over HTC one. Many people would say that it would have been difficult for them to make it waterproof, not true. You can make a device waterproof like Nokia are doing with their upcoming device by using a special skin which covers the components. Imagine if the HTC one waterproof, had a sd slot and a camera button it would have been even more of credential improvement and they would have been miles ahead of Sony and Samsung.

You may say that a waterproof phone is stupid but many normal people who are becoming aware of the feature since it was on the news find it really exciting. I the Xperia Z will sell more than the HTC one given the brand name, large marketing budget. Here in the UK the Xperia Z is all over the billboards.
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
What? you can't have them all in a device without any sacrifices.

"All HTC have to do is tweak it and increase the pixel size to 2-3 UM and then they will have a 8mp ultra pixel."

If you want 8MP UltraPixel in 2µm then the sensor size will be double (2/3''). In result, it will required phone thickness to succesfully pack it inside.

"removable battery"

This would be hard on a aluminium-magnesium unibody and put a hole on it only weaken it. Somemore you will know this if you focused on recent HTC design concept, since window phone 8 most of their premiun devices' battery placement is lay in the middle to gain some other beneficts.

"waterproof and dust proof"

The element they sacrifice will the stereo "BoonSound" speakers, just referencing to Xperia Z. You will need also add some rubber rings and glue which will impact the ease of repairibility too.

Despite these features, doesn't that the One was already a great device in the class?
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I believe Brac20 already answer it, but unless your tube trip takes more than 16 hours I still not seeing storage capacity problem.

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I know you can't have all the features in one phone. No product is perfect in any market and I do understand that Htcs new philosophy is to put the battery in the middle, I was just saying the more features they have the more the reason people will buy the HTC one over other phones. I do admit HTC one is the best phone and if anything comes close its the iPhone 5 in terms of design. Iwas just replying to a comment which said it would be difficult for HTC to have a 8mp ultrapixel camera. Through R&D they may find a solution.
[One (M7) General] dilster97:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Today I used the HTC One. Fantastic build quality and new Sense 5 is great.

(i don't have photos - sorry)

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.8(Variant 1 CPU)

XM-#252

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 2003 SE 4.21
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Oh, I'm going to - that or possibly invest in one of Seagate's Wireless Plus hard drives. My point was simply that if it had a memory card slot I wouldn't need to do that, and that there are plenty of situations when 26GB of storage isn't enough and cloud storage won't help, despite certain unimaginative people's assertions to the contrary.

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Yes, exactly: the important thing is the distance between the lens and the sensor. Switch to an 8mp sensor with the same pixel pitch and you have to make the phone nearly half as thick again as it currently is. People are so hung up on thin phones that I seriously doubt a flagship phone that is over 13mm thick in the middle would sell. (A damn shame, I've never understood the mania for thinness).
[One (M7) General] HoosierInFL:
Saw this posted on another forum:

(Modaco writes)

HTC One: Unlocking your bootloader? Beware!

Mar 14 2013 03:00 PM | PaulOBrien in Android

Is your HTC One arriving tomorrow? Are you planning to unlock the bootloader? Beware!

If you've ever unlocked a bootloader on a device before, you'll know that it wipes the data partition. Not normally a problem as long as you're aware of it. On the HTC One however, there are a number of applications (Calculator, Flashlight, Ringtone Trimmer and Sound Recorder) that are actually not in the main system partition, but are instead installed after a factory reset from a preload directory that lives in... the data partition!

Unfortunately, HTC haven't taken this preload directory into account in the bootloader unlock process - it gets wiped out and in turn those four system applications are gone... permanently! :blink:

Another potentially even more serious side effect is that because the OTA (over-the-air) files check the integrity of existing applications, future OTAs won't apply if you've completed the unlock. The only way back from this situation is going to be a RUU (ROM Update Utility) (when one becomes available) - which will wipe your device again.

I've raised this issue with HTC and they're looking at it with the highest priority, but until such time as we have a resolution (or indeed just a backup of those 4 APKs?) then it's probably wise to hold off on the unlock.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I know, why do people crave for thin and light? In the east heavy and thick means its built to last like a Nokia phone, but in the west everyone dies for thin phones like the iPhone 5 being thin and light is that even a feature? Same with Samsung all their phones are so light. On phone sites some authors say a phone wins in dimentions and weight when it comes to design that is so misleading. One of the biggest arguments Samsung fans use when the s3/4 had plastic was if plastic is bad then why do you cover your aluminum phone with it? The answear is simple we use plastic cause it is a good protective material yet we do not want to compromise on design just to protect the device rather we prefer a plastic case that adds bulk. Who said plastic devices don't need cases is that why we see Samsung fans flock to stores to purchase otterbox cases.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

OT but true :p
[One (M7) General] taha198:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

LOL :p
[One (M7) General] plun:
Yep, pure crap and OT.

Keep the thread clean please !
[One (M7) General] omersak:
Quick review video from Aaron at Phonedog, nice viewing:

http://www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-one-snapshot-review/
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

They have taken this into account, probably so that employees in retail stores can tell if your device has been unlocked without actually booting into the boot loader

That is if you didn't put them back.

Now to be honest this isn't a big deal at all, people are making a huge deal out of it. Once the phone is released and the ruu is out then someone can decrypt it and pull out those apks. Simple
[One (M7) General] Livebyte:
It's just a mistake on HTC's part.

Chill the hell out.
[One (M7) General] O_G:
Thread Cleaned​

Lets not turn this into a comparison thread please, we all know where they go:rolleyes:​
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Here's another review with interesting info and benchs:

http://www.laptopmag.com/review/smartphones/htc-one.aspx
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

If the rom.zip is encrypted using standard rsa etc. method they are no way to decrypt. You can always install and then grab the files, though.
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
For PC's, but I'm pretty sure it's not quite the same with the mobile LPDDR speeds. IIRC LPDDR2 is 533Mhz and LPDDR3 is 800Mhz, Not 1066Mhz. Besides, aside from benchmarks, I don't think there are many, if any games out there for phones right now that would even fully saturate the bandwidth of the LPDDR2 in the HTC One even at 1080p. Even if there is, they would still run at very good frames providing the governor is properly implemented, and I don't see our gaming suffering from it at all. I think we'll be good for quite a while.
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It obviously intentional

Since it happens across many devices,

I'm fine. Just stating something. Don't like it then dont reply, if I offended you go talk to a mod

Someone has a root method they haven't released yet so if we can root it before unlocking it then we can pull the apks out
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Not really need to root to do this, a simple cmd can pull those apks out. It's adb backup.

Or grab it from the ported One rom of Droid DNA.
[One (M7) General] omersak:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/htc/htc-one/19747/htc-one-review

New review from Knowyourmobile, 5 stars
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Hey guys i don't wanna sound *PISSED OFF* nor jumpy but take a LOOK AT THIS !

Weren't HTC One on the LEFT SIDE not S4 and someone photoshoped THIS to look like S4 on the LEFT SIDE ?

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-4-vs-htc-one-quick-camera-comparison/

The last time i saw this i'm 99.9% SURE HTC One was on the left side, please someone who checked those tell me i'm imagining things , cuz by all calculations and obvious pictures it's clearly pics on the left BELONG TO HTC ONE !
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Nope thats the same as before. Maybe its because the Ones camera does actually produce better shots.
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
Not sure what you are on about, the pics on the right labelled from the One, look way better to me?
[One (M7) General] glen.ricky:
chill out dude. I remember 100% that the first time I saw that picture HTC One is at the right side. And its obvious, look at the zoom. S4 would have more zoom at 100% resolution compared to the one
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Thx guys i was tripping lol :P
[One (M7) General] glen.ricky:
Or maybe you really like S4 photos more than One
[One (M7) General] fast_asleep:
Could someone lucky enough to have received their phone kindly post the correct SAR levels listed?

Cheers