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[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Mate, when iPhone 5 was launched it was selling around 5000 AED in Souq.com/Dubai underground market which is around 1300 $

iPhone 5 also came very late to UAE. Guess middleeast is not important for both Apple and HTC Lol

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I had my HOX which was unlocked and i suffered a weird WiFi issue & battery drain. Initially the service center claimed that the warranty was void and they sent me an email stating the reason. I responded with a email with few lines explaining them the unlock process MAY void and is not read as voids completely. After that they changed my motherboard, battery, few others and honored the warranty.

I would suggest you not worry too much about this.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I've been stalking local tech forums for returns on unlocked HoXs and it seems to be 50/50 at best that they honour the warranty. I'll send mine in for warranty once I get my HO. NFC never worked since Day 1 (before unlock lol), volume buttons becoming hard to press. If i'm lucky, I'll get a new unit and give it to my gf. If I'm not, I'll just get it fixed for free. If I'm REALLY not lucky, they reject my warranty claim lol.

Better safe than sorry when things go bottom up, S-Off would be great :D Or at least some way to get it to say LOCKED again ^^
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
well, HTC will not honor your warranty even if it says S-OFF. That is what their service advisory says. I would not know if we can just turn on and off S-OFF...
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Funny:

Its not possible to root the so "development friendly" sgs4 on stock software / kernel. Samsung locked that.

OnTopic: GTA VC runs with about 20fps... Sometimes more, sometimes less. But its fun to play on that display.

If I lower the resolution to 33% the game is unplayable... About 5fps
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
If you have S-Off, you can write to the partition that stores the flag data, and you can turn it back to say LOCKED and S-On in the bootloader :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Yes same problem in Lebanon the only official smartphones in Lebanon are from Samsung, Sony and LG, both HTC and IPhones are semi official at best

As for pricing this is a first for HTC its currently the most expensive smartphone in the market

But In reality Middle East is very important for HTC since its retail and has extra profit, equally HTC officially supports it with their Middle East optimized firmware in terms of hardware we are one region with Europe and Africa, hence EMEA, the problem is not specific to Middle East, its a global shortage many countries like India are still out of phone
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
We need you guys to root and try other governors

Either tweak ondemand for more aggressiveness or try msm-dcvs governor

Eitherway I think this game is badly optimized since its simply a port
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
No hamdir, middle east is not important for HTC. :(

They earn money from India, most of East countries (china, taiwan etc) and Europe-USA. Rest of the countries like Turkey, Lebanon etc are kinda disregarded.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Did you mean popular when say official. Surprised to see Sony and LG on that List.

it is true that global shortage is the reason for the current high prices but even in retail it's 735 $ which is not comparable to the us pricing of 575$.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Well I didn't really mean my country since we are kinda off the map but I'm surprised about Turkey

Last year the One X was flooding Lebanon at this time

Anyway lets cool it down about this availability discussion before we bore others ;)
[One (M7) General] EtherealRemnant:
First - Samsung locked the at&t version and will lock Verizon. T-Mobile and Sprint have been rooted since launch.

Second: Those are terrible numbers. HTC needs to do some driver optimization because it runs faster than that on my Adreno 225 and the 320 in the One is in a completely different league.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Samsung locked their stock kernel with one of the newest updates. You cant root it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2263788

Dont forget the adreno 320 has to handle 1080p (and is on old qualcomm driver).
[One (M7) General] EtherealRemnant:
I wonder if they will pass that on to the US models. It doesn't surprise me that they are locking down Exynos variants, especially after the exploits found in the previous generation and rumors of a new exploit for the current one. It would make sense just to lock the kernel permanently unfortunately.

As for the Adreno 320, we are essentially in agreement. It is a driver issue. The bump to 1080p from 720p isn't that significant to drop a butter smooth experience on the 225 to a stuttering mess on the 320. The 225 is just a rehashed 200 which has been around for ages (didn't the Touch Pro 2 have a 200 and the EVO a 220?) It would be an outright embarrassment to Qualcomm if that ancient architecture beat out an entirely new one.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
Funny (and pretty sad) how they locked the bootloader at the same time that official CM10.1 came out for the GS4. Samsung clearly choose security and enterprise (knox) over the modding community. Oh well, I guess that my Note 2 will be my last samsung ... I just hope that the rest of the oems won't go the same path as samsung did. :crying:
[One (M7) General] Dark13lade:
Hamdir, what changes to the firmware does htc do for the middle east market?
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
They locked the i9505 too (international LTE variant - S600)
[One (M7) General] EtherealRemnant:
Smh - well I guess my S3 will be my last Samsung. Sony here I come.

I just can't see myself being stuck with 26GB of usable storage... I use a lot more than that now.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[One (M7) General] Actura:
well that is also for htc one x, around 25-26 gb of usable storage

does not fit you but fit most users :)

and are you sure you don't want to use the microsd feature inside that galaxy ?
[One (M7) General] afhum:
Any clue when the 64gb version coming to UK? Or southeast Asia? I am in UK.. Waiting.. Soon coming home to Asia. I wonder if I would need to wait more there as well, lol.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Why wouldn't it? 1080p is more than twice the amount of pixels as 720p.

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HTC Malaysia has announced that a 64GB version will go on sale soonish. Mid-May would be my best guess for the start of availability. No idea if it's a Dev edition, since I don't see any other kind of 64GB HTC One.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Just the Arabic support stuff
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Lol touch pro had no Adreno 220, far from it

The 220 was used on the Sensation, you are right the 225 was a rehash but it was a good upgrade for QHD yet a little lacking for 720p

The 320 is very fast but it still has to deal with a tough 1080p res, so in a way we can say the same the 320 is a great GPU for 720p but a little lacking for 1080p, hopefully more and more game devs will rely on scaling, supporting 1080p on such an extreme density screen is just a waste of precious fps
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Speaking of GPUs there is one thing I will certainly miss and that is the THD "console quality" Tegra waw factor

Despite performance issues for non rooted users, some games are just unforgivable on my One X

Ripetide GP, beach buggy blitz,shadowgun THD, sonic 4 episode 2 were a different league from all other devices

Lets hope ES 3.0 support will open new graphical venues
[One (M7) General] EtherealRemnant:
Oops. I was thinking of the Inspire/Desire HD. Adreno 205. Lol! TP2 was Adreno 1xx.

My point is that all of the 2xx series chips have been rehashed ancient architecture. The 3xx series is completely new and its designed to support 4K tech so 1080p should be easy for it - particularly considering that the Adreno 205 can run that game.

I think I've decided to wait and see what comes out of Google/Moto, the Snapdragon 800, and the Tegra 4i chips. My S3 still handles everything I throw at it. And I learned my lesson with being an HTC early adopter a long time ago. The One would be tempting if T-Mobile had the 64GB version.

Sent from my SGH-T999
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
You missed my edit

No 320 was never meant for 4k gaming you are dreaming :laugh: don't confuse video decoding with 3D games

Android is still considered a more advanced mobile OS, with the race for extreme density screens google should provide the option of scaling control maybe as a developer options, like "run apps in 720p" wasting fps on 1080p is just sad

Your are right about praising the 320 though, GTA is far from an ideal example, the H1 actually runs modern combat 4 one of the toughest current mobile games in full effects at 1080p native and runs it very well

As for the early adopter part we are now in 3 months of build I think its safe to purchase now especially if u get a late April unit
[One (M7) General] omar302:
I would like to point out that, for the first time ever, HTC now includes Arabic language in their default Keyboard. I have a UK version & Arabic is there (in the Keyboard).

But for the interface, if you need Arabic, you'll have to install something like morelocale2 & the Arabic interface will work just fine. (no root required).
[One (M7) General] XxVcVxX:
I would agree with Hamdir on the GTA being extremely unoptimized. On the N4 with an Adreno 330 @ 720p it lags often, especially when you drive a car and turn, there is extremely noticeable stuttering, and fps is never above 30.
[One (M7) General] Dark13lade:
Well I think the Arabic keyboard also exists on the euro version 404, I'll have to check that.

Also noticed that changing the UI language with morelocale2 creates a bit of a lag in the UI, mostly with scrolling.
[One (M7) General] vickysud:
When to expect 4.2.2 for HTC ONE ?
[One (M7) General] MoshuXXL:
4.2.2 should be available by the end of the month.
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
What's the source for that?
[One (M7) General] MoshuXXL:
It's a supposition.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
more info from the HTC meetup

http://www.sfandroid.org/events/115727492/?eventId=115727492&action=detail#description-tab
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I was thinking maybe the Sony honami is the next nexus device. The next nexus device is suppose to have a killer camera and this does and it is being released in the same time frame. I think the moto X phone is coming but it won't be the top-tier nexus. I know only one nexus phone is released every year but LG have also confirmed they will be making the nexus 5. So we have three phones the nexus 5 (which is said to be revealed at the Google io) Sony honami and moto X.

I think after this year all moto phones will be running stock with no overlay and many people have said Google never bought moto to make killer phone but instead of the patents. Regarding the Sony honami although it's said to feature a brilliant camera it has been said to be up to 10mm thick with no camera hump. Last year their was a rumour they was making a nexus device but it never happened and they haven't made a nexus device before. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I would love a sony nexus :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Sony can go to hell until they start using optically laminated IPS screens, seriously I love their build but so hate their screens

As for Honami it ill be a camera phone like the 808 without even the s800 you will see, Sony never uses the latest SOCs (since they need the time offset to optimize them)
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I guess you are talking about the White Magic display?

s800 = Agreed.. my big compliant against XZ or else it would be a winner!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Any touch based flagship should have wide view angles it should be the law

Really we should stop even talking about this tablet and convertible laptops all having IPS as standard and yet Sony is still lagging behind, funny when they have the best TVs in town
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Yeah I guess they've always been behind but s800 is being launched in May and Sony are announcing their flagship in september that gives them three months of optimisation also even though the first batch of s800 devices are being released in May Oems probably got their hands on the chip one or two months early. Sony are always a quarter behind and if the samples go out in April and Sony announces in Sep it does seem realistic. I haven't really experienced their screens but I have seen the Xperia Z in a shop it wasn't a deal breaker as a bad viewing angle can result in people not being able to see the screen who are sitting near by which is a added benefit.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Those who followed my old One X thread know how I usually OT a little about various topics of mobile technology

I posted something about the iPad and windows 8 pro convertibles here

xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41065572&postcount=18409

If anyone is interested ;)
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Oh we know ;)

Still waiting for local stock for the phone! Argh, the wait is killing me! + national elections going on now, vote counting!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC: Bluetooth low-energy is coming soon, but it’s not Android 4.3 features
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Which is good bc I'd be pretty disappointed if Google went and spent time mentioning Bluetooth Low energy as a big feature of 4.3.... Much more things they can be doing...
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Back from France!

This phone is nothing you ever saw yet!

Not only gorgeous but screen,camera and speakers are really a revolution!
[One (M7) General] john291:
Wich phone??
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
This os qn exemple of how crisp and clear can be the camera shots with the One
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Guess what I am going to ask for...........full size photo please :p
[One (M7) General] john291:
:good:
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Saw this on the verge forums http://finance.yahoo.com/news/htc-one-dont-drop-100000508.html I wont spoil it much for you but it is the WORST review I have ever read. The verges 2 days with the device seemed far better.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
He just keeps complaining about it being slipery which is true. He wasn't been biased he did say HTC 8x feels great. It also wasn't a review he just felt like writing a article convincing people not to buy it because it feels like a soap bar which is ridiculous, not because it isn't true, but because he is telling people not to buy it because it feels slippery and it's hard to repair. Has he not heard of something called a case moron.
[One (M7) General] bouss:
While saying that software is a mess because he was unable to find the camera button or how to add home screens sounds valid.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
How to put a 4mp photo in the forum?
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
To be honest I didn't read it all I couldn't be bothered he's just a person who gets paid to type anything up for a living, you should just ignore it.
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Transfer the photo to your PC and upload via imgur or tinypic, don't select any resizing options and just copy and paste either the URL/direct link or code.

Or you could use the imgur android apps:

[url]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imgur.mobile&feature=search_result[/url]

[url]https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.imgurforandroid&feature=search_result[/url]
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Ok lets hope it works
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Oh btw, I've sent a mail to HTC service in Turkey a few days ago about whether HTC One battery is changable and I got the answer yes today.
[One (M7) General] EtherealRemnant:
Looks like a 3D rendering of water from the second generation Unreal engine... in other words, it doesn't look realistic.
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Actually I laughed, the whole article just shows the issues are not in the phone, but in his head.
[One (M7) General] akhil8377:
Seems the author is first time user of Android Phone

Completely useless review- even if this can be called a review. If a user has to go to store to find out how to add home screen in android phone, he has not used any phone before.

HTC One is a class product and it is going to remain so.

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you are right on target. Absolutely favulous phone
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
More photos of the M7 development decoy casing
[One (M7) General] troubleshot:
I'm glad to see more manufactures including that. I always loose the remote, I never loose my phone.
[One (M7) General] randombirt:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Seems it's set as 14th march...

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/24/samsung-confirms-galaxy-s-iv-launch-on-march-14th-in-nyc/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
not nearly competitive with the tegra 4 he is mocking
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
So as usual we will end with:

You want max power get the ugly plastic samsung

You want style and beauty but don't care about best performance possible get the HTC
[One (M7) General] :
Max power is relative. If you talk about CPU, any A15 SoC will obviously be very competitive. Talking about GPU, almost impossible now to beat Apple with PowerVR.

Beauty always again is an individual preference.

As usual, we will end with marketing and brand promotion. The truth lies in pushing your device to the consumers. With such competitive market, one product can't be too much different from another. Only your marketing and brand recognition will make the difference.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
So HTC will need massive advertising campaigns to sell the One as expected, I know they don't have the $ resources sammy have ,but they will have to do their best this time
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
or:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/25/renesas-big-little-mobile-processor/

:)
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
I HATE this thread. Everytime I leave it for a day or two I have to read 10 pages and open 20 links and read 5 articles to be up to date.

But...but...I wanted to work! :crying::crying:

Seriously though, I love it (mainly the reason-not-to-work-part) ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
more results from the HTC One, this time including 1080p onscreen: 31.5fps

thats barely any different from the Droid DNA...

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=HTC+One
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hence mega :)
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Damn, the s600 seems disappointing... I think I'll just wait for a t4/s800/"a7" device.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its not the s600 fault

it should score 39fps onscreen

its HTC's

and this is what he said about the GPU

so lets hope its software
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
I have a black iPhone since launch. Never used a case.

Not a scratch. I'm not rough with it or put it in a picket with keys or coins though. :good:
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
The LG Optimus G Pro which is also running on an S600 scores even less on GLBench (26FPS offscreen).

So let's just hope it's a software problem.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6792/...nce-preview-snapdragon-600-tested-at-mwc-2013
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Thats interesting but even more irretating cause the g pro seems to use ddr3. So it rly could be a driver/software problem. Or Qualcomm just lied about the performace. At least the One is 10% faster then the s4 adreno 320. Better then nothing.
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
For me the problem is the bench, all other bench there a good performance
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Anand states in that link the G Pro is using ddr2.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Ah ok, i should read the next :P
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Samsung fans be ready:
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Nah.. the bench should be very accurate for real world gaming performance.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Decoy casing? I'm sorry, I don't know what that is, but it looks like a htc 8x.
[One (M7) General] Actura:
a really long htc 8x :D
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Yup, worked perfectly, thanks :)
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I really like the look of it :')
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems you didnt follow this device pre announcement ;)
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I followed, but I didn't get it now. And I'm sorry again, I don't understand the reason of that post, my bad. Just to remind those concept designs of One?

I've been following you ever since you've created one in one x general.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Paris Champs Elysées a Sunday morning taken with my One

A little question: should I wait for s-off before rooting or it will take some time so I root it now?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no because i just stumbled on these photos and they naturally belong to the "depth" of this thread ;)
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I have ordered the developer edition and waiting for it. Hoping to join the thread soon with my beautiful ONE.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
I don't normally post pure opinion, preferring to contribute technical discussions or rants that scare Hamdir:D, but I've just come back from a phone shop, and combined with a brief play on a friend's HTC One (silver), I've changed my perspective.

Firstly, I no longer feel that HTC One is too big, in my hand / pocket it is just perfect, I was probably damaged by owning a Note, which was too big. Although I still believe that a lot of iPhone users would love a 4 inch HTC One. The feeling of the metal chassis is silky and reassuringly solid. I must say that in comparison the GS4 looks quite nice from the front, but its back is hideous, and doesn't feel like a £500++ device.

Secondly, in pictures the silver version seems sexier, but in real life the black is just stunning in its monolithic beauty, and seems even more premium. On the silver version displayed in the phone shop, which admittedly must have been abused by countless ruffians, the white strip & beats logo on the back were rubbing away, which is a slight concern.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC sees tickle of a turnaround as One demand stokes April sales

Boosted by One, HTC grows its sales by 26% in April. Up 71% since February, with more growth ahead
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea i agree about the black, still the white is too gorgeous but i have long decided it should not be used naked, what do you mean the white strip is rubbing away?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Unannounced LG smartphone leaks, could shed light on Nexus 5
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I don't think Google will approve that phone :D
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Meant to say stripe:)

I looked at the 'how the HTC One is made' video, they etch the line into the aluminium, and them must fill it with an epoxy / plastic or similar. On the heavily used display model, the white material was missing in several places, of course it may have been a pre-production model, as it was just a static display.

[YOUTUBE]pDjfh5mFWUc#![/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ouch...rubber cover is officially obligatory for mine, im still getting a silver unit, its too beautiful to ignore :)

and yes the display units are mostly pre production
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Weirdest day of my android life....

Virtually 90% of black market HTC Ones here in Lebanon are coming from a strange source, sold at a premium of 900$

Serials ranging from HT33L to HT33Z, WWE 1.28.401.x CID 001, but get this

You unwrap the box there is no charger and all of them virtually all of them have a custom recovery out of box and a red development warning on the HTC boot logo

Preplexed, could these be contract devices, being unlocked and re wrapped?

These are unlike the flawless unit from my review

Tomorrow I will contact the official reseller
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Does it have the logo? usually the contract devices have the logo on the phone right?