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[One (M7) General] shox22:
On older desktop pcs (and i think also at the current mobile generation) the physics part should be done by the cpu. i´m not 100% sure about this, but thats why nvidia introduced physX a few years ago.

That would explain the big gap between the one and the s4. A 1.8ghz a15 is ofc faster then a 1,7ghz krait300!

Even the much faster Ipad4 gpu (554MP4) is just 5-10% ahead of the one with its older firmware. So dont expect too much from the "4+4 Octa"
[One (M7) General] strip419:
different clock speeds could be part too(the power vr in the VITA has a higher clock then in the iPhone and s4)
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Yes, it's too early to say, but judging by what we see now, and that the HTC One is still on 4.1 looks good for another performance bump once it hits 4.2 that the S4 is already on. Doesn't mean it's gonna be better, I just have a gut feeling the 320 may slightly out-duel it, we'll see how it pans out later on.
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
The more interesting fact though is that the S4 would be released with the Qualcomm chip to more regions than previously, and since this is obviously going to be a popular device perhaps we'll see some games being optimized for that chip, which would benefit us as well.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
strip you are beating a dead horse to be honest

the octa has no way but to suffer thermal / power constraints

there is no way around it, it's just the nature of those A15 cores

the chipset is overloaded with parts and if combined with LTE the thermals will be heavy

there is no escape just like they had to lower those A15 clocks they will need to do the same for the GPU, it will not run at 533 considering it outputs heat even on the iPhone (the Exynos is a shrink compared to the iPhone but 533mhz for 4 physical GPU cores is still high)

the only way they can deal with their thermals is by shrinking the OCTA even further which will not happen soon or relying more on the a7s a little more!

s600 is a much bette balanced chipset when it comes to power consumption, i dont see a reason for wishful thoughts
[One (M7) General] strip419:
True bro,very true sammy did a great job by partnering EA and GAMELOFT. Now these isheeps can SHUT THE F****k UP
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Lol they can have gameloft and ea freely there games are just poorly optimized with stupid prices witch in the end would cost me more than a ps3 title
[One (M7) General] shox22:
The included headphones (inears) are pretty good. They sound way better then the beats onears that i tried in a store a few moths ago.

But i still prefer my Teufel aureol grooves over them. Voices are clearer and bass is more defined. But as i said, very nice for supplied ones :) :good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
are you even aware that qualcomm is optimizing all gameloft games for the Adreno 320/330 as well?

in fact MC4 was updated to run in full effects and running great

unlike Nvidia, Qualcomm is focusing on Gameloft as well, in every event

so this point is moot as well

you are simply stuck up the part where Samsung "announced" and hyped it during the launch event, but here is the catch Qualcomm been hyping their Gameloft focus as well in every Snapdragon 600/800 event, you are also forgetting that Samsung announcement meant both their S600 and Octa SGS4, oh and most importantly you are missing 70% of SGS4s will be in fact s600, so no I don't think they will give preferential treatment to the Octa version

like many around here are saying, i would still go with s600 if I was to choose the SGS4, i've had my share of dark chipset torture with Tegra 3
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
Does someone know if the 'branded software' is installed in the HTC factory or are they delivering clean devices to the provider?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
New Nexus 7 reportedly gets Qualcomm chip, better screen, and lower price
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Interesting. We're hearing rumors about more and more devices using Qualcomm's latest offering, yet no whisper of Tegra anywhere.

In the past I might have bet that Motorola would come up with a new device running tegra, however they've since shifted to Omap, and later to Qualcomm as well. HTC uses mostly Qualcomm (except rare cases like the One X), Samsung makes their own CPUs (or use Qualcomm), both LG and Motorola use Qualcomm (and Mediatek for their low end phones), Sony uses Qualcomm only, Asus uses Qualcomm and Intel, who's left?
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
because tegra is crap.

sure t4 packs some power, but what abt the battery? my one x dies in like 2 hours of continuous candy crush saga. t4? probably 30mins
[One (M7) General] shox22:
tegra3 and 2 were crap and nvidia lost a lot of trust cause of this. Without the dev community, the one x would be still to slow to even play the tegra games with >25fps

+the t4i (as well as the t4) is simply not avaible atm.

The t4 isnt made for smartphones. That soc will drain the battery like nothing else. The single companion core wont help there. The ARM way seems to be the only one to get the power consumption of the a15 under control.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Tegra is a specific gaming chipset not all OEMs or devs are willing to specifically use it or optimize for it

however Tegra 5 promises to reinvent the mobile power race

the makers the Kepler GPU revolution are not to be taken lightly :)
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I´ve no doubt that they are able to produce good products. But they didnt with tegra2/3.

Tegra 5 is far away but could be, as you said, a big jump in gpu performance. The question will be: How good is the performance / energy ratio?
[One (M7) General] SirSigma:
That's a really good question, actually.

I'm juggling with the idea of either getting it on contract or unlocked with a cheaper provider, but that does raise the question of onboard software.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
i got mine from Dialaphone on an Orange contract, and there was only one single app for orange which just had like a contact number for them and stuff in it. I was able to simply hide it from the app drawer though.

The phone itself is unlocked to any network, too.
[One (M7) General] MuhKoInc:
I thought I'd mention it here as well:

Just got a shipping confirmation from Handtec, seems they're starting normal shipment soon :D

Proof, for those wondering: http://prntscr.com/z1kgu (Didn't want to post any personally identifiable information, so screenshotted only the shipping part of the email)
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Does anyone know which dac chip is in our HTC one ?
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
qualcomm's proprietary chip
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

That's what I guessed but what's the name of it ?

Is it the same like the s4 pro dac chip ?(like Xperia z)
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
idk what's the name, but it has one.

should be improved over the s4, since htc one has this dac with an amplifier in it.
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Thanks for the help .

Still looking for a detailed spec sheet or info on that dac chip .
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
what i can say is it's much better than the crappy realtek dac on tegra chips lol
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I know , it's definitely better than the one x ones. :)

---------- Post added at 09:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:54 PM ----------

Did some adb logs etc and we have the same dac chip like the s4 pro / Xperia z .
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I cant really help you, but gsmarena is in love with the dac. Its the same as in the DNA and produces nearly perfect sound if headphones are connected.
[One (M7) General] Nekromantik:
Main thing I prefer on Samsung phones is Wolsfen DAC!

With the voodoo mod the sound from headphones rivals my MP3 player.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The voodoo mod is only for the nexus s if im not wrong
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Should also be on the exynos sgs3
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
Not mentioned on first post but I'm writing a daily review update on the HTC One, available here http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/?s=HTC+one&submit=Search

So far review parts 1-7 are live, plus first impressions, 2 posts on camera samples, a YouTube of HTC Zoe mode, link to podcast discussing HTC One and more. The review is getting updated every day.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Not to be negative or anything, but in the interest of being fair, something about my phone is annoying me a little bit.

The size of the capacitive buttons.

Sometimes I have to tap 2 or 3 times to get it to go. I know they're not faulty, it's just about hitting the right area, but they're just so darn small.

Challenge to you all - take your phone and try hitting back home back home back home over and over after each other at an average speed.

See how many times you can do it before you miss. I can only do 5 or so presses total.

Don't know why HTC made them so small :(

PS I'm still missing my menu button a bit (although I think I would really prefer double tap back for menu) but other than that I have absolutely no complaints about my phone.

Love everything else
[One (M7) General] Nekromantik:
No its also on the SGS2 and SGS3 Exynos.

Even without the mod, the sound quality from Wolfson is better then Qualcomm.
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
Coming from the DHD I must say it is true, the mapped area seems to be smaller and you have to tap more accurate, however you get used to it after some time so I am not that frustrated with the buttons .. I got 30 on the first attempt and I did it faster and faster every cycle of pressing :)
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Did you use 2 thumbs? Lol

Weird....

That's twice in the space of about 15 minutes that my back key has just stopped working entirely for about 10 seconds...

Please not a fault T_T

Update. It's continuing to happen....

For probably 1 minute or more 2 more times since I posted the above.

I've now disabled long press back for menu and it still happened again.

Hoping it's something to do with Android Revolution HD and not hardware...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One playing with the big old men :laugh:

almost as fast as Geforce 7900GS and beats it in some tests

Anandtech: The Great Equalizer 3: How Fast is Your Smartphone/Tablet in PC GPU Terms
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Considering that a 4.2 update will improve the ones performance even more , it's pretty awesome how much power is in such a beautiful and small device .
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i hope everyone is following the photo thread

its a mind blowing stuff

the camera is doing wonders

once you get over the sharpness by reducing it and sort out contrast issues (auto enhance, contrast +1 or controlling ISO)

many of the photos simply makes me speechless

HTC has done magic with this one

and trolls no longer dare to stalk the photo thread, they've been debunked out :laugh:

seriously who care about MP when you have a combination of OIS, 3x light/per pixel detail, super fast shutter and excellent macro, its a fully fledged 4MP camera and NOT a phone camera
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i really hope both HTC and qualcomm keep pushing for 720p upscaled games support, the GPU will last ages at 720p

any stupid 3d games dev going for 1080p will disappoint himself and the consumer

thankfully s600+1080p devices are flooding so i expect devs will be forced to be some thought behind their game support
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
UltraPixels, Photography, and the HTC One: A Chat With HTC’s Symon Whitehorn

here is the most interesting and confusing bit:
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

@hamdir HTC sales representative. :D

Till last week you seemed very sceptical about the camera of the HTC one, specially in daylight. You found it just ok..

now you seem very happy with it, you love it. You post links, now, towards beautiful pics.

What have changed?

I must say I agree with you, at the beginning I found the camera very disappointing, now I see splendid photos on the photo thread:confused:

What have changed, were we blind ?

I am serious !:confused:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One X avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
If you ask me this then you are not following the photo thread

and i dont feel like repeating the entire story....
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
edit: damn it here goes

- pre release software (i dont know which firmware exactly) was failing to work with auto ISO, latest auto ISO results seems better

- equally sometimes the device still produce over bright washed out images in daylight ie: bright dark areas, as we tested and learned we can fix this by tweaking the contrast through the multiple methods available (auto enhance, contrast increase)

- many people were also posting crops or digital zoom

- sharpness is very agressive by default so when looking at full size they look bad, we tested and learned reducing or disabling sharpness produces much better results for native use

- OIS is sometimes unpredictable so far blurring parts of an image

- some units had focus defect

- i wouldn't doubt there was some FUD posters as well

so all in all, you need to tweak your settings and you get to see how beautiful this camera is

and most important you need to know how to take a good picture!

finally wish i was an HTC sales, i would have my One already!
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Reading this post made me happy in my trousers!

Can't wait to get my One!
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
This got me curious, I am a photography nut, currently using a Canon 60D, but I have begun with a Konica Minolta Z2 (4MP).

I was in love with that camera, and I still think it's the prettiest camera I own (before the 60D I went through a Canon S5 and 300D). Some of the photos I took with it are still on my wall at home.

Might just dust it off to compare them when my One arrives.

Interesting to see whether 9 years were enough to squeeze the quality of the Z2 into a phone (I won't use the optical zoom, that would be unfair).
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hamdir,

HTC sales it was ironic mate !

Just to mean you know so well our favourite product !

I hope internet reviews will update their conclusions about the one camera ;)

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One X avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] JayMore:
Sony uses crappy STE SoCs as well.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Benchmark comparison: Galaxy S4 vs Galaxy S III vs Note 2 vs Optimus G Pro vs Nexus 4 vs HTC One

Any surprises or unexpected results from this test?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
can't wait!

https://twitter.com/anandshimpi/status/319823698704089088

hinting at Mali's apparent weakness in vertex load in his latest article
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
not really, the S600 is scoring almost the same despite the 200mhz difference

about GPU benchs, 2.5 test is now almost obsolete since the One scores better on Egypt HD 2.7 version of the same test, as for TRex 2.7 it translates to 1fps difference (14fps vs 15fps) the iPad4 scores 16fps on this test

The One is winning in general tests like vellamo, quadrant and antutu, especially on vellamo
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
GL benchmark 2.7 TRex online results are showing fps

iPad4 - offscreen: 938frames (16.8fps)

iPad4 - onscreen: 676frames (12.1fps)

HTC One - offscreen: 826frames (14.8fps)

HTC One - onscreen: 743frames (13.3fps)

Nexus 4 - offscreen:: 790frames (14.1fps)

Nexus 4 - oncreen: 1218frames (21.8fps)

HTC One X - offscreen: 227frames (4.1fps)

HTC One X - onscreen: 364frames (6.5fps)

onscreen Adreno 320 rules, with 720p its almost 22fps on the Nexus 4, we should get even better speed in upscaled games
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
i like willy in my bum
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
mmm explain? :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
Oh dear, has somebody left a laptop logged in?
[One (M7) General] anit77:
DOH. :banghead: or is that rear?

Hope the mods clean these 3 posts ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC first announced

Facebook optimized, specs a little similar to the HTC 8x

HTC is going for free marketing :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
by the way there isnt much buzz about this on HTC elevate yet, so i guess its no big deal even for HTC ;)
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Interesting, if they signed a deal with Facebook as well, to advertize the HTC One on their site as part of a deal that includes the First, that could significantly boost One sales as well.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
even the name is a hint HTC First

now imagine this buzzword cycling :)
[One (M7) General] pavan-g:
:cowboy: Just found Samsung's employee of the year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9mIqjICdYI

crazy stuff lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Blog: Making Music Videos with HTC Phones

HTC Blog: One Day’ with the new HTC One

full size
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Did you guys notice that HTC accessories are now on their official site?

first time i see this

http://www.htc.com/www/accessories/

strangely low quality, seems the website is being updated
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
I enjoyed this.

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]KZkq2uYePWc[/YOUTUBE]

and OT

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[One (M7) General] Hcore:
So may the HTC First be the cause of the delay of HTC One?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh come one how????

HTC all they do is making phones, that is the only thing they do

no laptops

no OS

no computers

no screens

no referigerators

no airplanes or sea ships

phones, only phones and specifically smartphones

you think its hard to do both?

last year they made a quad-zillion model
[One (M7) General] Hcore:
Didn't mean to upset you. But I'm just frustrated to wait for the One. And I still have 6-8 weeks more of waiting because of the delay. :(
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes no relation to the first, the one is delayed due to unibody and camera yields

trust me its good for us, I'm happily waiting myself, I want a revised assembly

been thinking I might order the 64gb dev edition straight from HTC instead of the usual channels in my country
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
It worth the wait, trust me.
[One (M7) General] Gene_Bailey:
Out of curiosity, how would one do that? And at what price point? I ask because at the moment, living in the States and being on non contact plan through Straight Talk, my only options for buying this phone would be to go through Expansys who would simply send me an unlocked model sold in the UK for nearly $760US.. Or to buy one off contact and unactivated from AT&T when they have stock for whatever they would charge (probably $650 and tax) and it would more likely than not be loaded with bloatware and carrier branding which I detest.

Getting one straight from HTC would be ideal in my case..

I want this phone terribly, but the fact that the Nexus 4 is half it's price and available immediately sway me from it. Then I think of all I'd be missing and I hold off purchasing it. But the fact that I can order it straight from Google and have a warranty while if I ordered an HTC One from whatever avenues and would be denied one also makes me pause.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Preorders now available with all major Australian carriers, and a few big retailers have preorders now too. It's been a busy 24 hours for the One down here.

Have my silver unit on order now :) Expected about the 23rd.... had the option of black (most people don't get a choice) but still went for silver, not sure about the long term durability of black even though it does look mighty nice.

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/htcdev/status/320021639762944001

HTC One $649 64GB Developer Edition pre-orders start at 10AM ET, ship later this month
[One (M7) General] vapotrini:
No S-Off & Silver only... interesting.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Well it's just a launcher, il try it, if I don't like it well I can just uninstall it.

More interestingly if you install nova launcher on the HTC First it's more or less a HTC Nexus.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Techno Buffalo: HTC One Winner of Mobile Madness 2013

full chart
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
BTW can you uninstall blinkfeed via Titanium backup??
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I am an HTC elevate, so far the One is black market in here

so i think ill try to ask HTC to sell/send me the dev edition directly

plus it will insure a newer batch :laugh:
[One (M7) General] Lövet:
Excelent Swedish review - well worth translating and reading

Please excuse me if this has been in the thread before, but it is one of the best reviews of the One I have seen. Those of you who can't read Swedish will have to run it through Google translate or something, but it is well worth it. Thing is Swedroid doesn't just tell you what's inside the phone, they actually test EVERYTHING and compare to other phones (in this case a comparison with Xperia Z). Just how many reviews have you found that shows a map of how well the GPS tracks, or actually test compatibility with different launchers in case you don't want Sense+blinkfeed?

as a new member, I'm not allowed to post links yet (this is my first post :) ), but check out swedroid.se!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here you go

http://www.swedroid.se/htc-one-recension/
[One (M7) General] bob 6600:
What a phone!

But why no wireless charging?
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
I was wondering the same thing. I thought perhaps it would take up too much space within the phone, but then again, the Nexus 4 has it.

Perhaps it has something to do with it being mostly aluminium?
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
@OP, here are some great photos of the One in black:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/49954/htc-one-black-photos-preview
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
for sure the first phone i have looked at and thought "WOW DO WANT" since this:

;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks i just finished restoring the damaged OP for the old One X mega thread from google cache, i will now finally focus on this OP! :good:
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Definitely for me. BTW that Motorola looks cool too ;)
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
guys, do me a favour:

http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/mobiles/mobile-phones/HTC_ONE?colourCode=SILVER#phonedetailstabs

please report that idiotic review as inappropriate?

(click reviews at the bottom)
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Done. What a moron! :Looks like a shamesung employee ;)
[One (M7) General] TheBlazingIndian:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Looks nice
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
not sure if this has been posted already

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXu2MhQaRAI

seeing that stuff in action - mind:blown
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
To play 1080P games Sony decided the PS4 needed a minimum of over 20x the bandwidth, and ~35x the raw GPU power of the HTC One. There is a reason Tegra 3 still is a decent mobile gaming platform, developers have to compromise and ensure their games are playable over a wide range of devices.

Now, consider is GLBenchmark an optimal way of judging real-world gaming performance? In real life smartphones are for semi-casual gaming, what does 1 hour of constant gaming do to their batteries? A few FPS here or there on benchmark, should not be the a deal breaker, we should judge a device from the potential total ownership experience.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Blog: Excitement Builds for New HTC One>>
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks, embedded :)

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