yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
LCD instead of IPS or SLCD!!
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
i just lol'd at that head line hahahaha
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Its due to the unchanged bloated lame touchwiz. So underwhelming!
[One (M7) General] joschi1985:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Never Never say again Sense is bloated!

Touchwiz is bloatmaster!
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
exactly .. it is crazy .. it's like they tried everything to make the one look shorter from specs than the sgs4 .. -.-

the reason why I don't enjoy reading theverge anymore ..

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They should make a review about userfriendliness ... sense and htc kick ass!!!

samsung has like 10 different apps for the same problem. it is ridiculous
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s-4-hands-on-14273962/
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
HTC trolling hard in New York at the SGS4 announcement. Too funny.

Source: Pocketnow
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
much more blotware, some are cool, but i like htc one! waiting my black to come!
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Samsung is just soo sick. But the numbers will win here. Quad core x2, better gpu(on paper until benchmarks come out) 13mp camera and a lager display. Fanboyism aside the htc one looks a 1000x better. Software and feature wise the SGS4 wins hand down without arguments. HTC need a big marketing budgets if not sammy wins again. There is a little bit of metal in the phone tho, so build quality is quite good.SGS4 Killer feature: eye scrolling,latest android version,gaming looks promising, 2600mah battery,lots of camera features to play with, metallic body(plastic battery cover),

HTC one Killer features: sexy metallic body,front facing speakers,higher ppi(negligible but numbers sell boys), fewer camera features(but awesome),htc sense. If the htc one has issues with its radios due to the metallic body(we are yet to know that), then it justifies why sammy used a plastic back. Then htc will have an upper hand in design( cos the S4 looks very nice from the front and sides) sammy takes credit for their innovative software features(makes you forget there is plastic on the phone). Htc did a good job with features packed in the ONE, but sammy wins here. To be sincere the ONE as it stand beats the S4 in design(obviously) but that's about all, its either a draw or an upper hand for the S4 in other areas. BUT AM STILL BUYING THE ONE
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Yep, because the US version is most likely going to have the S600.

After this unboxed event I'm disappointed that Samsung didn't show me anything in the event that would give me even 1 second thought about my next phone being the HTC One. The decision to go with the One is as easy as ever.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]dqj5fKU4Ba0[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
It will actually most likely have the s4 pro
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

So far my impression: plastic, ugly lg-style texture, a lot of useless software gimmick , copied some Zoe feature, copied blink feed , copied Nokia sstouch, copied lg dual camera, same old touch wiz with just the lock screen and status bar changed, lag, random map app that they put in and they named as theirs, random health app bloat ware (really you can find it very Easily in the market) a skinned google translator with less languages that they call innovative.

The only things that I liked are the float touch , the ddr3, good battery size and the octa(of it well optimized but from the hands on all I can see are frame drops).

So far very very very very very disappointed but sadly it will still sell more than the one :(.

Have you guys noticed? Last year they said inspired by nature designed for human, this year inspired by the human nature.... Deja vu , lol.
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
I did not notice, I tend to forget horrible presentations of phones I don't want to buy
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

It won't be the pro but most probably will be the 600 cause the pro will literally burn at this clock(check the n4 forum, if you oc the s4pro at 1.8ghz and bench sometimes the device could brick)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
It gets worse for Samsung, if Anandtech is correct, and they are rarely wrong! Remember when I said it will throttle, I thought a 200 MHz downclock or so, but NO, the A15s will ran at a max of 1.2 GHz This matches the leaked benches well, A15s are fast, but must kick out a lot of heat and suck power.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

That is a ridiculous claim. Besides the same boring design the phone hasn't even been tested yet.
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
I am sorry to tell you, but all the really cool features are already in the one + executed much more nicely!

99% of the other stuff samsung has announced for the s4 is just useless bloatware.

it looks ugly, it feels ugly and cheap .. and touchjizz looks like an unfinished job fromsomeone that tried to add stuff to vanilla android with no love at all
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Whaaaat ?!!!! In my opinion the Galaxy S4 is the Smartphone Fail 2013 ! There is nothing really new and all these new Software features are useless....
[One (M7) General] Threevo:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Either this guy is in denial, or he works for Samsung.

Not sure yet :l
[One (M7) General] yvibes:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

That had to be one of the most boring, chessy/corny presentations of all time, period! I'm not even I fan boy, I was genuinely hoping Samsung would move me away from the one... But they didn't! Every single feature is a gimmick imo! I don't see myself using any of those features in the real world. Maybe for the first few days to show people but after that no! Looks exactly like s3, plastic but tacky carbon fibre look. Octa core is waayyy too much... I'm on single core and even that is fine for everyday use lol :P from alll the videos I've seen so far sgs4 is lagging like a biatch! Touch wiz has no enhancements and is now definitely more bloated then sense... Sense is much more secure and sleek overall! The camera features are stupid, like the other gut said! Samsung stole a bunch of features from other companies (much like apple are known to do) and added their own marketing name to them! Sgs3 or sgs3+ for sure! HTC well and truly deserves the top spot again!! There was literally no applause for anything in the presentation because it was sooo annoying... Especially the part with the women :/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC calls GS4 #thenextbigflop

https://twitter.com/htc/status/312348122753953792
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
go on son! (htc)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i'll call it a day, because it will keep coming

as you can see non of the press approve

but it doesnt matter does it
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

So in the end a15 on phone are gimmick, they consume more , heat more and have less performance(due to the heavy throttling). Very disappointing.

By reading all the comments on tech side I'm surprised how they call the sgs4 innovative? After all is more of the same with a lot of software gimmick that you will you just once.
[One (M7) General] joschi1985:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Even German htc Trolls Samsung....

HTC Deutschland (@HTC_de) hat um 0:07 AM on Fr., Mär 15, 2013 getwittert:

Schaut Ihr Euch alle den Launch des #Samsung Galaxy S4 an ? Keine Sorge, mit #HTC #BoomSound werdet Ihr morgen schon wach :) #htcone

(https://twitter.com/HTC_de/status/312339343576539139)

That one is also great

HTC (@htc) hat um 0:10 AM on Fr., Mär 15, 2013 getwittert:

Well said. http://t.co/fkxEM78Tnm RT @TheIndieArmy #thenextbigthing shouldn't look like your old last thing. #HTCOne design team knows this.

(https://twitter.com/htc/status/312340016837828608)

Hol Dir die offizielle Twitter-App auf https://twitter.com/download

You watching gs4 stream? Don't worry Boomsound will Wake you up tomorrow :D

Hol Dir die offizielle Twitter-App auf https://twitter.com/download
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Muahaha !!! theres WAY too many laggs even s3 doesn't lag this much.

@ Hamdir , if you remember the other day when i wrote at one x thread that i'm sure 90% s4 will lag cuz of 4 companions cores i was right all along ohhh it feels so great to be right :p :Devil: :cowboy:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
somebody shoot me please :( gamers just got insulted

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/14/samsung-prototype-wireless-game-pad-hands-on/

if this piece of **** sells well again, i will hate smartphones completely
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The best thing for consumers would be for htc, Sony and LG to claim some market share from apple and Samsung . Two giant companies is not good for competition and it's obvious Samsung is making the same mistake Apple has made recently. Stop innovating.

From the looks of the s4 I think it's safe to say htc will grab back some of the market share they have lost.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Yep, I always trust reviews of a no name site, built on a basic wordpress theme.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
LOOOLLL

samsung galaxy s4-360-DS
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Damn the design of Samsung is getting worse every year, they are clearly professional for making awful devices.

I don't want to sound like a Samsung hater(which I'm not) but really, I expected more.

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Kill it before it lays eggs!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes we are all aligned about this, A15 are simply not working in a smartphone, Anand said down-clocking them will give you same speed as a9 but at much better consumption

dunno what ARM was thinking...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Forbes, Galaxy S4: Will Samsung Continue to Rule the Universe?
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Have you guys seen engadgets sgs4 hands on? All I have to say is that it shouldn't be too hard for htc to stay on top. Lol this s4 is such a gimmick. I was truly waiting for something to wow me but it never happened. It even has some similar camera features as Zoe's
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
A little secret, word is the A15 was designed more of Server part than for phones.
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Is there already a Benchmark Score of the official S4 from today ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
better comparison here

http://mashable.com/2013/03/14/galaxy-s-4-compared/

time to head off, that was a big waste of time

liking HTC's new agressive approach to be honest
[One (M7) General] omersak:
That's it. HTC One pre-order cancelled. S4 baby.

NOT.

I actually like the desperately inferior Xperia Z more than the S4. I could live with it's flaws because of it's fresh, new premium design and feel - and because it's not a money-spinning, same old SIII+

HTC now needs to unleash a huge wave of aggressive marketing - cold blooded, underhand even because it needs to highlight the areas in which it's superior to the S4. And it should be everywhere - billboards, TV etc. If it does that it may well pull a hint of a Samsung this year.
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
This is what engadget writers think of which is better

https://twitter.com/tnkgrl/status/312364359173148672
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

So after all apple and Qualcomm made the right choices on developing a custom architecture.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Literally laughed out loud...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
for smartphones, the answer seems to be yes
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
what makes you say that we have no real world data to compare its all speculation and most probably false
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Anandtech reported that no benchmarks were allowed, just wait for our Chinese friends.
[One (M7) General] fernando sor:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Totally agree. They have the momentum they have lacked the last few years. If they don't unleash hell now on the market they are crazy stupid.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

However, remember that the S3 was first also bashed in the press and later praised. Something tells me this won't happen again. I think HTC is on the right track.

Sense gets less bloated, incorporates a nice user experience. Touchwizz, which was earlier known to be closer to stock Android becomes more bloated and really starts to look like a toy. Even the software looks like it was designed by and for kids.
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Here --> Antutu Bench of the S4(but with S4 Pro): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK1UeckQML4 (it´s a german hands-on)
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

So is it a S4 Pro or S600??

Edit: he says s600
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Sorry, S600 @ 1.9GHz
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
htc one is more powerful?
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
It is a score of the SGS4 with S600.

So yes ^^
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
No, it is 200 MHz slower. Either Samsung left programs on in the background, or their kernel is sucks compared to HTC
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Htc situation right now:

1 make a great phone

2 make a fresh ui

3 no marketing

4 ???????

5 no profit
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Lol this looks worse then sega 10 years ago. I'm betting HTC's team is SO HAPPY right now after seeing fail of samsung this year. Funny fact is Note 3 is 90% gonna use octa which will be same sh1t as it is on s3+ , i mean s4. Theres also high chance HTC team is heading to strip bar to celebrate this year :)

Love this two :good:
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
in htc's defence they're coming out of the blocks pretty strong with the trolling on twitter (and now fb) and at the samsung event - lets hope they back it up with real marketing
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Samsung chose the cheaper option>>>

The insiders of SamMobile directly started mailing to us after the announcement of Samsung. They are unhappy because Samsung created that much prototypes so they got confused. First of all he wants to say sorry for the misinformation but this is not everything! Our insider reported Samsung chose for the cheapest Galaxy S 4 prototype.

Samsung chose for the full polycarbonate version and Super AMOLED display which has a sort of Pentile structure!

Samsung dropped the version of plastic with the corners of metal / aluminium and PHOLED display with RGB structure!

There was also a full metal version but this version couldn’t make trough the first round. Which directly hints to that Samsung completly ISN’T ready to build full metal devices. Which is sad for a lot of people. According to our insider the Galaxy S 4 is easy to build like the way Samsung chose to do so. The premium feeling is totally gone because of the missing metal / aluminium materials.

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/15/samsung-dumped-better-galaxy-s-4-prototypes-for-cheaper-version/
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Ok let's celebrate the ONE. Is this part of HTC new strategy too?

[YOUTUBE]w06X-ebyxlw[/YOUTUBE]

Middle East ftw:D
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
I must thank Samsung for making my choice of the HTC One so easy.

As far as smartphones this year - nothing holds a candle to the One.

BTW:

Its funny because this is the first time ever I am confident in a qualcomm designed CPU. I still remember how hated they were back in the WM days of HTC...

Am I the only one who hopes to see an intel Quadcore HTC device next year :)

FORGET NVIDIA HTC, GO WITH INTEL :)

EDIT:

PPL are saying that the sgs4 has DDR3 ram, yet I don't see it listed on the specs. If this was true would they not want to flaunt the ram?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/3/14/4...c-one-blackberry-z10-nexus-4-lumia-comparison

Wow not only that verge is quiet miss-informative but it is also probably the most retarded site for reviewing devices , they have no idea what are they writing there, for exampe:

The users who follow their site are also quiet miss-informative. IN A WAY this is actually good for HTC One lol, most of isheeps who follow their site and got interested into HTC One will rather go for One thx to these guys who have no idea what they write about lol :P
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Thought this was the HTC One forum/thread here?........
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I assume you're aiming at me :P Anyway my previous post is related to HTC One. Besides the title of their review is : * Samsung's Galaxy S4 takes on the iPhone, HTC One, and other competition *
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
I saw it's DDR3 in Offical Live Stream... Once the event was over they published the spec there it was listed. Clearly HTC One rocks .. They took a risk I hope they succeed because it's sad when someone actually take risks and bring something innovative is let down by some stupid marketing. Last year Samsung spent 11 million just on marketing. This year to bring HTC One down they might spend 22 Mil :D
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Na not signaling anyone out just thought it was funny from a thread that didn't want OT SGS4 talk going on, to then burst out into non stop discussion on the device for pages and pages on end...
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
I don't doubt you since every other site appears to list DDR3, but this link:

www.samsungmobilepress.com/2013/03/...mpanion-for-a-richer,-simpler-and-fuller-life

Says nothing of it.

SO... if it is DDR3 could the difference in performance with the S4 be more then drivers?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Yes it still could be the ram. But we need to wait for 4.2.x for the one and offical benchmarks of the s600 s4.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I seriously hope HTC will have a great time in 2013 with the ONE.

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"The next big thing is not made of plastic. It’s the premium all-metal – The new HTC One"

Posted by HTC India on Facebook.
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
HTC have already won in that they will surely make bigger profits this year than last, thanks to the One. Hell, I've been a Samsung guy for a long time now, owned the SGS and SGS II consecutively and even I have no interest in the SGS4. I'm definitely digging the HTC One, the Samsung experience gets old and tired, it needs a rest and I'm putting it to bed.
[One (M7) General] joschi1985:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Samsung Marketing is working already in Germany it just appeared in the news :thumbdown:

At least the news of sat 1...

They never mentioned the One..
[One (M7) General] android_geek_here:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

HTC FTW! But Samsung Galaxy S4 has tons of new features which one can't hate. I've always been an HTC user and probably going to get One.

I hope BIG TIME that NFC & WIFI DIRECT work in HTC One. Every Samsung user transfers data with Wifi Direct and I look like a fool with BT.

Sent from my HTC One X
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
They talked about the S IV here in the US on CNN before and after the announcement. Samsung marketing is too big for HTC. If HTC had the same resources than samsung than it would have been an amazing battle.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Samsung is using the same marketing strategy as apple,meaning having a part in the news of every TV in the world, LCI TV (the most poplar french news TV) talked about the sgs4 like if it was God on Earth!!

Of course no mentions of HTC One or the trolls(LG and HTC) of yesterday,like if only apple and samsung were in the market.

If only I was a member of Elevate I would have focused on this since day 1,HTC made a great show on the 19th Feb but inviting web and blog owners is NOT sufficient at all,80% of people are still influenced by TV.

They HAVE to invest in this strategy if they want to beat sammy
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Guys that's not marketing, Samsung just have a larger reach,average news reports feature apple and Samsung because the average person cares..

Anyways back on topic.

I'm a bit disappointed I havnt seen any One ads as of yet, have you guys seen anything on TV?
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I'm still waiting for mine to expire after 6 years. I only signed up for short term...
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
They can't advertise the One before they get the promised stocks ;)

But yeah I hope they will not deceive this time like previous years, Peter Chou changed the marketing team because of that
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Only thing I've seen is HTC One ads during UEFA games.
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
Yep. only thing i have seen in the last 3 or 4 weeks has been in Champions league/Europa league footy games. (not tv adverts, just advetising around the pitch)
[One (M7) General] mitas35:
hahahhahhaah loolllll that make my day thank you "Kill it before it lays eggs! ":laugh::laugh::laugh:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

You can bet Samsung will market that shizz way before the phone hits the shops.

They need to add some pictures and animations to the Champions league billboards or else nobody will be able to relate :/
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sidebar poll on androidcentral.com shows their users are more intersting in byuing the One than the GS4:

http://www.androidcentral.com/week-s-sidebar-poll-samsung-galaxy-s4-or-htc-one
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Same happened when s3 released

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that teh S4 will sell more than the HTC One......It's a sad fact but unfortunately people do blindly follow hype and marketing without thought.....Though having said that after my wife saw the new S4 and said 'It looks just the same as the S3.....Does this mean now this is out the S3 will be cheaper?' To which I said, 'I should imagine so yes', she replied, 'Oh cool, I might as well get that then if it's not really any different!'

And this is coming from someone who is typical of your average (only really care what it looks like) buyer.....So perhaps the S4 wont do as well as Samsung are hoping.....I'd still put money on it selling more units then the One though :(

Not that I really mind who sells more. As long as HTC don't go anywhere and I get my new EPIC phone I couldn't give a rats ass what anyone else wants to buy lol!!!