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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4161226]aliHTCDHD[/MENTION] sorry but its not the bomb you were hoping for

Moto X Adreno 320 scoring the same as the HTC One GPU on 1080p, so it gives a look at our 400mhz updated A320 1080p vs 720p, apparently we loose over 10fps with the jump to 1080p, ofcourse for games with scaling resolution we loose nothing

and here is the Moto X, biggest shortcoming for me, 720p SAMOLED screen...

Now the camera

check the photo samples here and tell me if you notice anything better than our ultrapixel, in fact it seems to have the same over exposed bright areas issue due to the extra light sensitivity

Anandtech on the Moto X:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7197/a-quick-look-at-the-moto-x-motorolas-new-flagship
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and this caught my attention from Anandtech's Moto X piece
[One (M7) General] zehoo2:
Speculators make money out of ups and downs of stock. Ups and downs are good for them especially if they have a good algorithm and have fast direct access to the share market that the stock is being traded on to front run the market with high frequency trading. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_trading

Of course if you own the stock it's good to know how it's doing as well ;).
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
You're right it's broken in pitch black lol , anyway I barely use camera , one thing I noticed and never saw on any phone is flash photos , it's insane how good it is , as for elemental x .... For some reason took me 4% battery in the 6 hrs of deep sleep .. I might go back to stock kernel , any other kernel that would be great for battery as stock is ? Last question , is it possible to restore back original speaker max volume ? I mean damn thing is very loud but I'm curious how much really :P
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well the max volume was disabled to protect the speakers

as for EX did you enable the screen off CPU cap from Aroma?

and no its just pitch black, if you test enough you will realize it happens in most low light scenarios where you need the HDR
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well i dont see how this belongs to XDA

anyway the reason for HTC's bad luck this time, is that unlike last year, high end smartphone sales are actually shrinking globally...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
OT:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-xbox-one-gpu-receives-speed-boost

someone is getting desperate :)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yeah I used battery life set-up, but found battery kinda lower then stock kernel , anyway I'm on bulletproof now and it's better with some tweaking.
[One (M7) General] ZeroRilix:
Found the same story from ign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mPGj1WndVM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

That really isn't gonna help much considering what is in the ps4. It's all just desperate fire control after the reeming they got from the reveal and e3. Sorry m$, but with better hardware and specs, Sony is getting my money. I know a lot of you guys are with me on that! Lol. :D

Sent from my HTC One X+
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Even with the extra raw gpu power and slightly lower cost IF I get a new console it'll be the x1. Solely based on the fact that I hate the ps controller and can't get halo on ps4. I also have a sick gaming rig for the ones that I can't get on x1. If I can't get it on pc I dont need it lol.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I dont care about either console personally, but I dont think the PS4 internals will make it as great as everyone here says, the general consumer wont know much of the difference as titles on both consoles will look identical. Exclusives might be a different story.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup sadly they still have 43.3% to go :D
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
The 4.3 kernel source code for the Google edition One has been released.

I wonder - will this contain the updated GPU drivers with OpenGL ES 3.0?

And if so - will we be able to use them on Sense based roms?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
x360 owners prided themselves with the fact that multiplatform games run better on it, so now when the coin has flipped we suddenly don't care

unlike current gen where each console had it's advantage (ps3 had spu, the x360 had edram and gput) and this time the ps4 has better gpu, better bandwidth and gpucompute hidden potential (which might boost the cpu bounds), there is nothing on the opposite side not even the esram since it doesn't being any massive boost and instead it's harder to use to begin with

besides 1st party, the ps4 will run every multiplatform game better, dont think otherwise

if it wasn't so important MS wouldn't bother anouncing a ridiculous 6% increase in gpu clocks
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the drivers on our 4.2.2 are the same as the nexus 4.3 drivers, v14 supports ES3.0 unofficially on the current HTC one sense firmware
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
It seems it didn't live to its hype.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I'm not saying the ps4 won't run the games better. I doubt people will notice unless they had both side by side maybe. I didn't know 360 owners prided themselves in this. I am a 360 owner and had no idea about it :') Microsoft are feeling the squeeze or they wouldn't have introduced all of these fixes later on in the game. Lets just hope PSN gets better because at the moment it seems worse than xbox live.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Who cares about those who don't notice the difference, both consoles will be a success anyway

But for us the tech informed, we should care, I break my warranty and OC my GPU just to get 4fps more for gaming in my phone, yet we all know there is nothing like an ALU increase to bring performance, like the jump we see between T3 and T4

Many of us are wishing to have Adreno 330 instead of 320 just for the 50% boost in gaming

Like DF investigated, the ps4 will at the very least bring 25% better fps thanks to the GPU and another 25% thanks to the bandwidth, this simplified should mean more fps in games, when we are all dreaming of the elusive 60hz, smoothness directly converts to better gameplay

A game targeting fps on the x1 can play at 45fps for the ps4, or if devs choose to even them out the x1 version will run in reduced resolution or less anti aliasing

I fail to see why would u buy an inferior console. It's like buying a GTX 650 for a more expensive price than the GTX 670!

Eitherway don't take my word for it, you will see when the games role out and DF run those vs articles
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Tbh I'd rather xbox live than the performance increase. I would prefer if the one was cheaper without the sensor but as I said I have not much interest in either. I'm keen to see how games run on them though and what the developers do instead of looking at spec sheets and guessing from that. Tbh I cant see the increase in fps much because the devs will probably be lazy and get it to run at a good fps on the one and leave it at that.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Like all tech websites noted the extra fps on the ps4 doesn't even need any effort from devs, its just brute, whatever u achieve on the x1 will run better on ps4

Besides for me 80% of my consumption on ps3 was Sonys first party games and Japanese exclusives like Ni No Kuni, we also have the upcoming game from team ico, all of these exclusive will make better use of the better specs, I'm not looking into this from a battlefield or call of duty perspective, finally even game media isn't nearly excited about x1 as they are for ps4

Anyway I'm done with OT

Back on track please
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Amazing work by HTC

GPe HTC One 4.3 OTA is live.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Still no kernel source for our 4.2.2 devices seems to have been forgotten in a race to beat Samsung

---------- Post added at 01:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:21 AM ----------

This from Brian, “@nerdtalker: Just got 4.3 OTA on both SGS4 and HTC One GPe :)” https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/363456030774018048

His post on anandtech http://anandtech.com/show/7199/google-releases-43-ota-for-htc-one-and-galaxy-s4-google-play-editions
[One (M7) General] mitas35:
@ hamdir my sisters HTC one is one week old and the battery just make it through a day while its most of the day in her bug is this normal?
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Depends on use tbh?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
my thoughts exactly, time to start bugging HTC dev on Twitter
[One (M7) General] mitas35:
4_5 phone calls end that's it something doesn't feel right:rolleyes:

How can I test if the battery is faulty?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
IR blaster now works on GE 4.3 update

http://m.androidauthority.com/htc-one-galaxy-s4-google-play-edition-android-4-3-update-252532/
[One (M7) General] jesr:
HTC ONE Google Play camera beating the Moto X's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nCn63XoWWYM

From 6:20min on.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Love the stock kernel with some tweaking, great battery life , great performance , been killing the phone , viber , facebook, YouTube , browsing the web , xda app , camera for around 20 mins , all the time WiFi / 3g , high brightness , some calls , sync for fb, mail , gmail , BlinkFeed , hangouts , g+ ...pretty much everything I got.

Best of all I didn't have to kill the performance to get great battery life like I had to do on hox , I'm betting I could hit 7/8 hrs with some more tweaking and lower brightness.
[One (M7) General] meleelord:
Are you going to do another battery saving thread? :)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I guess I could , there's really no need , everyone are getting good battery life , besides I could extract maybe 1 extra hour , so far managed to extract around 30 mins. Faux kernel looks good for this , his kernel is very tweakable and so far best deep sleep I saw.
[One (M7) General] meleelord:
You are right! :) I am easily getting a day and a half to two days from my phone. Any little extra would not be worth the hassle in trying to do!

Still trying to get use to the change from our old HOX! :laugh:
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yah lol it's amazing , I've recorded 5 videos today and took around 20 photos ( btw fast 60 fps hd mode ) is outstanding how responsive it is , anyway the point is I lost around 8/10% for this camera usage while hox would of taken 20/30

And here's current battery stats , made whole day and still got 46% left lol , amazing.
[One (M7) General] mitas35:
my sisters phone is sitting all the day in her bug and doesn't make it through the day how can i check if the battery is faulty ?:confused:

thanks
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Sounds like wakelocks to me. Rogue apps tend to do that.
[One (M7) General] vcrp94:
Install better battery stats from xda and see what is consuming the battery, try to look for wakelocks.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so explain to me this apple gets the right to fine samsung an insane amount of money but Samsung is not allowed a ban to an ancient iPhone 4?

waw I wish samsung shuts down their US operation in protest but not really samsung despite all these insults still makes processors for the iPhone

these patent wars are absurd
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
1)Apple is US based

2)Samsung is Korean

3)it's the Obama administration(nuff said with that) they do whatever the hell they want to.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
CONFIRMED: HTC Mini to hit Europe as HTC Mini+
[One (M7) General] Flight__81:
My apologies if this shouldn't be posted here but I haven't received answers in the q&a threads.

Hamdir, when I'm outside or even inside with house lights on I can only take photos using HDR as all photos are overblown. Is this normal?

Secondly my One which is now on 4.2.2, I have this issue where wifi will automatically turn itself on. I had this issue on 4.1.2 as well. Sometimes I prefer to use mobile data as it is faster than my home Internet but wifi turns itself on randomly. This has also occurred when I have had both mobile data and wifi turned off to save battery.

Thanks
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I really like the idea of that only if one max was a 7" tablet with phone capability.
[One (M7) General] skr_xd:
Sorry if posted already,

http://htcsoku.info/www-t6-leak/
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
3300mah for a full hd 5,9 inch display ?

That phone will run out of power sooner than our one I guess .

Besides that everything seems to be great stuff :)
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
??? 3300mah is a huge battery dude, that's more than enough to power that phone plus the S800 it's even power efficient than the S600. I think it'll Dr definitely have more juice than the one.
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
Well that has to be seen . It's huge but it has to power a 1,2 inches bigger display.

And yes htcs software does agood job for battery life.

Nevermind. We can continue discussing that topic once its official :)
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
one thing fishy is that it says 2.4Ghz / Quad-Core! i thought 2.3 Ghz is the limit for S800 (source:wiki)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Not really it's 1000mah larger battery then ours , s800 shall use less power ( but on 2.4 should be same as ours ( fishy 2.4 )) and it has around 340+ ppi vs ours 468 , which should also use less power , and lastly WTF sense 5.5 :eek: , fishy also.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
No after reading it, it was something to do with FRAND patents that affected the decision. With the samsung ban FRAND patents were never involved.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC denies sale rumor amid poor Q3 outlook
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Glad I'm with Android and running the One!

Two nights ago I found an iPhone 4 lying on the street, pretty cracked screen.

Battery was dead and I have no Apple products so had no way to charge it.

Borrowed a charged from a friend and charged it enough to get a few contact details off the handset. I've emailed the owner so he can come and collect it.

During my brief time on the handset trying to locate contact deets I realized how much I like Android, Sense 5 especially! Also I just love the One, I didn't like the feel of the iPhone at all, the handset is too small, the UI isn't nice, I just don't 'get' Apple products!

Long live the One!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
so the Max photo is genuine, i am disappointed they have adopted the mini's plastic frame, lets hope the speakers cover are not fake metal plastic like they are on the mini

check this comparison image, the speaker grills reflect the size of the device
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Hey hamdir is there anything I can do to fix the damn focus in pitch black , it's impossible to get a focus , wish we had pre focus like Samsung devices , we have with no doubt the best camera shooter @ night but in pitch black it's impossible to focus , argh if only htc implements flash / focus / flash / shot :mad::banghead:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
easy :)

switch to video mode, turn flash, hold to lock your focus and then stop the video mode, the focus will remain locked

focus lock is a really useful addition
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems HTC is already pushing with their 4.3 Sense software

lets hope for a simple and quick OTA this time around
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://bgr.com/2013/08/05/samsung-apple-ban-veto-market-value/
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
While that photo may be genuine, if you read the small print here there's a strong implication that the phone in the photo is intended for the Chinese market; if so, the version sold elsewhere may have a different design (in the same way as the One has).
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
some people reporting improved screen calibration on the GE 4.3 OTA
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Ouu, wonder when we'll get 4.3 OTA.

Can't flash GE as I'm not Ro0ted.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Finally, i was hoping for this to happen, this pretty much affirms what i was saying in my post here

HTC to buy back 1.76% of company shares

Now let's see if for once the likes of the The verge will take it positively, i think they will simply ignore it
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I don't want to use video each time when I want to take the photo :banghead:

Btw my flip just arrived all the way from France ! Damn thing cost me 45e but I'm lovin it ! It's damn sexy on black one.

Btw what's the name of that app you used for flip ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This app, sadly it fails to disable in landscape leading to screen trouble during games

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danielkao.autoscreenonoff

(although the latest v2.0.10 update attempts to fix it)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Well that sux , anyway is it making any wakelocks or battery drain since the damn thing uses proximity sensor all the time ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no i am actually convinced it features the casing cost saving tricks from the HTC Mini carries over to the Max

HTC was vocal about the expensive cost of the HTC One casing
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hold on i didnt try if landscape improved with the latest update, so try and check the battery life for yourself
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...53963627.54631.122897397739750&type=1&theater
[One (M7) General] Thug_4_Life:
When is purple tint issue while taking photos in low light gonna be solved? I thought this was a software and expected it to be fixed in 4.2.2 :mad: Does everyone have this issue or is this device specific?

Sent from my HTC One
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no not everyone, i dont have it on my unit
[One (M7) General] Thug_4_Life:
I feel miserable. What should I do? There is no guarantee that it will be fixed in upcoming updates :(

Sent from my HTC One
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well a good way is to check if the 4.3 GE firmware suffers from the issue still, since it was established to be software
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Possibly. But note that this device has a removable back cover and an SD card slot - both features of the Chinese version of the One, but not the version seen elsewhere. I wouldn't panic quite yet.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
My friend who has the black one same as I do also got purple tint in pitch black , it's also seen when taking photos via flash , mine shows pitch black and also better flash photos , btw I think we can take a shot around 20/30 meters away with exposure +2 + flash. It's sick , give it a try.

@ hamdir , is it normal for my phone to run @ around 37/38c with heavy usage during the day and max brightness, no gaming ( ambient temperature is around 40/43c lol , stock kernel 1.7 freq no uv. @ night It varies around 22/27c same usage , also my average battery is 4:30/5 hrs screen time with around 20 hrs on the battery.

I assume this is normal ... Considering it's 40+ c outside. But feels kinda uncomfortable , with custom kernels , if , uc my phone had same temps lol. Btw I used -150 uv... Reverted back to stock cuz of HDR at night.

Btw this is odd also I can't take pic with HDR in pitch black + flash like I could on hox , I need little light source to work ( tested on stock Rom / kernel also )

Last thing how can I reduce over exposure in bright day photos ..? Here the example.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Damnet , damn xda app , srry for double post.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Mini+ now available for preorder in the UK
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you need to find the best exposure/focus point im afraid or just reduce exposure

temps are normal
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Thx forgot bout that.
[One (M7) General] Kubikuz:
purple tint is hardware issue i guess

my friend got this issue and he send his One to the service center

and voila !

HTC replaced the camera the purple tint is gone !

now i've ordered the camera sparepart from HTC, and they said at the end of august it will arive :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC just posted this

https://vine.co/v/hbgrdr99gtX

https://twitter.com/htc/status/364448294212501504

Interesting :)
[One (M7) General] Xerro-Five:
It is definitively device specific and thus probably not software that can be fixed IMO. But for anyone who doesn't want to fight with HTC about it and/or wait for a bunch of replacements you can use this really fast fix for the affected pictures:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43138829

It worked perfectly for me at least. Good luck :)
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
MAX :o:o hee hee! but that does not given any other clue or hint on what it can do!

---------- Post added at 11:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 PM ----------

oops seems like vine video did not play when i saw it!
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
That has to be for the Max.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
so, HTC wants to play it head to head against Samsung ? Go for it HTC!!!!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I honestly don't understand this, so making a phablet is CHANGE

Besides I'm not sure they have what it take to go head to head with Samsung, so honestly it doesn't feel like they figured out a strategy to deal with their situation, but this most likely a product roadmap being executed now

HTChange intrigued me for something more than just a phablet, so I really hope it means things deeper than this (like budget or mid ranger yet killer smartphones) for example if the Moto X had a mid range price it would be a killer smartphone deserving the label of change

Oops silly me I just remembered this tease has to do with the Robert Downey Jr campaign :D and the new slogan, change indeed ;)

Speaking of Moto X, check the verge review it seems the camera results suffer from the same over applied post processing algorithm but without the ability to disable it, otherwise I like how this phone is rethinking of things in every part like apple does with its iPhone every element is justified but there is no escape it's a mid range smartphone regardless of how Moto attempts to spin it
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
That is exactly what i have on my mind, whats the software going to offer? whats going to be the unique selling point? Samsung definitely would have refined the design to fight against HTC.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Oops silly me I just remembered this tease has to do with the Robert Downey Jr campaign :D and the new slogan, change indeed ;)
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
LAM!!!! laughing at myself :/

---------- Post added at 12:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:06 AM ----------

oh i must add, i have just got my replacement parts & tools from etradesupply for the cracked HTC one.. first impressions about etradesupply - promising.. the part look amazingly new and perfect! Going to sit down during EID holidays for the replacement myself ... :eek:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/05/htc-teaser-one-max/
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Thats why for me the HTC ONE still holds the zenith of smartphone designs for 2013. As for the new ONE Max, we'll see, but I think it would be a noob move if HTC just presents a bigger HTC ONE without any extra mojo.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=2044377]jesr[/MENTION] I will be really upset if they drop the metal / unibody quality for their next flagship

hopefully to counter cost issues they should release two versions of their flagship one full fledged and another plasticy like the iPhone 5c

also I remember we heard HTC already started researching liquid metal for their upcoming smartphones (although I would worry about QA issues)

and for the record, I never thought I would say this but I wish there will be an s800 One plus refresh for me :)

[MENTION=4914682]Shan89[/MENTION] the latest AutoScreenOnOff app update seems to work a lot better to disable in landscape, also delaying the screen off timeout value further prevents accidental screen offs

I am actually kind split about the EX kernel on one hand I simply love the ability to UV50c, GPU450 and setcpu cap to 1500 which gives me very good temps during gaming but powersaver button is broken and yesterday I found myself in need of HDR low light which we both know how good it is, or back to stock kernel with autoscreenoff and throttling disabled (which can get hot quickly), sadly cpu clocks dont stick with stock

why isn't the kernel source released yet....
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
Speaking of the Moto X, the only real fail about it, is Motorola insisting it's a high end device worthy of $500+ off contract.

If that price does not end up around Nexus 4 prices, It's DOA in my opinion except to gimmick whores.