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[One (M7) General] Shan89:
It's nothing new , the usual and imho ( wanted OT ) in Hamdirs threads became tradition even since the HoX days , i'm actually enjoying OT in his thread , it's somehow useful and informative , i enjoy reading about the other stuff as well not only the HTC One or gaming , hamdir seams to like searching for all kind of techy stuff and brings it to us , kinda safes the time and hes in my eyes *Hamdir - the - blink - feed* , lol maybe HTC was inspired by him for creating the blink feed :P
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Quoting for posterity :)

And oooh Asphalt 8, I haven't even got halfway in Asphalt 7 xD
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
I actually forgot one thing: you can't have a modified hboot as that will brick your device. But I don't know if that includes eng hboot or not. :)
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Eng HBOOT should be fine, only modified HBOOTs will brick when S-ON :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh boy

http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-zoom-official-16mp-hybrid-with-10x-optical-zoom-12286141/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
sorry sorry sorry but one more OT

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-11-war-never-changes

enough said :victory:
[One (M7) General] omar302:
They should have called it an S4 mini-Zoom.

It has nothing in common with the S4. Their naming game has gone too far.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Agreed. Should have continued the galaxy camera line as this actually looks like a worse device, just has phone calling ability.

And yeah.... It's really got nothing to do with the s4.

Surprised it wasn't the s-camera, which takes s-photos and s-videos with its s-zoom, and would be a big s-hit ;)

M.
[One (M7) General] Saluco:
This is a monster Robot from Pacific Rim :D
[One (M7) General] erto90:
You do not need to relock bootloader.. You can receive and install successfully OTA also with unlocked bootloader
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Hamdir I've told you I wouldn't mind a bump on the back of a phone for a better camera but this is just something else completly. You might as well glue a camera at the back of a flat surfaced phone. Everything about this is just a camera don't let the galaxy s4 name fool you it's just a camera with android and a Soc with a radio. Even though it's bigger than pureview it doesn't stand a chance did it take more than just megapixels and optical zoom to be a good camera. It takes a good sensor, optic, microphone, megapixel, pixel size and flash. Samsung are also preping smasung galaxy s4 advance which has been spoted to include snapdragon 800 so to all the early adopters that's a big slap in their faces having a updated flagship device.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
s4 advance?

why dont i hear anyone complaining about Samsung not sticking to one thing

funny
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
Because they never said they would stick to one device

And before people start thinking I'm bashing HTC I'm not

If I were to listen to them I would of got a h1 and would of been anoyed when t6 was rumored like last year when the hox+ come out
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you said this before and we explained to you a million time

HTC said One FLAGSHIP
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
I edited my post
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes but both the Mini and T6 are not the flagships

and we dont have a "mind split" situation like the One S vs One X, plus the naming very clear One, One Mini, One Max, they are all the same just different sizes

and they only did this to be able to fight the endless devices from sam
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
T6 is a different class of phone though. Even though the t6 will probably have the s800 I still don't care because it will be huge.

Different story if they released another flagship grade 4.7-5" phone..... But they haven't.

M.
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
HTC one flagship HTC one max I consider as a flagship Ye same phone different size different device

I'm not bashing HTC just stated if I were to lisen to them I would off been pissed of with them like last year when the hox+ come out same as now same device just overclocked and a bigger battery and if I remember correctly there was a lot of upset people when hox+ come out because no one was expecting it

And same again this year just glad I waited this time
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
http://www.androidcentral.com/making-sense-galaxy-s4-zoom
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC France official says HTC One Android 4.2 update is coming tomorrow
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and a six incher is not for general population my friend :)

considering the 4.7" is the sweet spot for most, it is the main focus and

flagship

and reference for all the other sub releases

the X+ came to "Fix" the One X issues reputation and replace it's flagship title, this is not the case this time
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
Anyway borde of argument lol

It's just my opinion and I'm glad I waited shame I'm still waiting lol all the good things I read about the h1 makes my hand itch even more for t6 any rumours on a release date?
[One (M7) General] bobsie41:
The tweet at the bottom of the article was yesterday.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i know and nothing so far
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
The HTC One is officially the hottest phone of the year!

http://www.buymobilephones.net/news/the-htc-one-is-officially-the-hottest-phone-of-the-year?adnetwork=fcbk
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
+1, I'm one of population, who thinks 'who cares about a phone which doesn't fit in pocket'

One x+ situation is entirely different as x & x+ share everything in common but with some fixes. But one & one max might have only one thing in common, design. We can take this as S4 and Note3 situation.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One Mini’s existence confirmed, set for an August release
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is one thing really bothering me with my One and i don't want to bring it up because im sure its gonna start a s*** storm of OCD :rolleyes:

i will discuss it with some of you over PM
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Go on :)
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Ping me.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I've PM'd you mate. :highfive::good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nah nevermind guys, really its something you better not OCD about lol
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Anyone got any reasons on why to S-OFF your device, not for unbranding/sim unlocking they are known.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes and yes, i have joined the argument over twitter

the main reason is CID change

for example if you buy in retail in certain non "First" countries, you have no control over CID

it might be Asian WWE, or any Euro country or some obscure Asia / African CID

non S-OFF unlocking, disallow us from flashing firmware (partitions etc)

a recent example was the One X JB update which mandated a change to the partitions and hence a ROM based on JB couldn't be updated without the related firmware packagae, there are still people waiting for their stupid CID to receive the OTA in order to flash ROMs based on JB

HTC like to sing that they allow unlocking but CID lock is neglected
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

send me a PM about that I might even get a fix for it :D
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
This is ugly , imagine how stupid gonna look when you see someone talking on the camera lol ! :P Anyway specs sux , especially the storage.

I think this thing gonna fail @ samsung face, they should've stick better to *Samsung galaxy camera* and make a new model instead of this failure.

You've got me curious , what is it >.> ? Besides we don't mind OT , at least i don't :P

And OT:

I'm glad HTC and Sony are really pushing Samsung into the corner , T6 ,M7 and Mini are entierly better then their S4, s4 mini and note 3 will most likely be worse then T6 , if not with software most definetelly with design / build quality etc. Tho i think it'll look awesome and i'm 99.9% getting that beast cuz of the screen size and mainly only for gaming , it's gonna be mah tablet <3 , As for sony they're doing great as well with XZ and that ZU , tho i think ZU is WAY TOO BUG , 6.44 is just ..... well how would HTC call it * Not human * :P Anyway good thing we have more options this year unlikely in the 2012 where we literally had only the Note 1&2.

I don't get samsung either , i mean they have more money then sony and HTC together and still they make uber ugly devices with poor quality ... WTF... i'm betting samsung would be in the LG category if it wasn't for the marketing. As they say *marketing is the half of the sales* in their case it's more then half.

Btw i'm not saying S4 sux , it's a good device , but should be way better considering samsungs resoruces and options.

EDIT:

Seams like 4.2.2 started rolling out in france

Source: http://www.journaldugeek.com/2013/06/12/android-4-2-2-deploye-sur-le-htc-one/

Kinda odd , shouldn't be the TW cid 1st or dev edition :o

Anyway who cares we can just flash the ruu and update it 3:)

I just hope this damn thing wont patch the S-OFF exploit.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Looks like sense 5 will be out for the One S! :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the keyword is the "global variants"

this might exclude the S3 versions ;)

this is the thing with HTC they should never have release the s3 version...especially when they claimed the buyer will not feel the difference
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
True true but I imagine more S4 were sold than S3?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well my CID is CID_203, which is the HTC FRANCE CID and nothing so far
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh and one more thing bothering me with the S600

lately ive been busy so i dont really use my phone all day, also auto sync sometimes disabled

im not happy with standby times...seems it dies end of day no matter what we do
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yea standby is good but not as good as the One X.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yet qualcomm keeps arguing against LP core concept, on the One X i arrived to three days sometimes in light use

i will try to set a screen off setcpu profile

its a waste of "precious" battery durability to consume it whether you use it or not
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Even there's a lot difference in the voice call stats, I used to get 3 hours of voice calls and 4 hours of screen on time with one x. But now with one, if I have 3 hours of voice calls, I can't even reach 4 hours of screen on time, else I could get 6+ hours of screen on.

And the gsam used to show 1% for every hour of voice call time, now on my one it's like 2% for every 15mins.
[One (M7) General] ossy1337:
A friend of mine (you know him, shox22) used to achieve over 100 hours of standby with stock rom + stock kernel.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I will play around with SetCPU profiles and battery guru
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Battery Guru is taking ages to learn :(

by that time... i wipe and flash another ROM :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i dont change roms this often
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Agreed ;)

i build roms and flash for my own use (apart from the forums)
[One (M7) General] n3ocort3x:
@ Battery discussion

I have to say, in the moment i integrated the Hotplug Control into Kernel, it got better and better... if u find the right settings to ur needs (balance between power and battery) + smartmax as governor (with the right settings) u can easily archive better battery than with stock kernel.

If anyone is interessted i could post some sample configurations for a few behaviours :)
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Fully stock so far for me.

Lite use I got 34 hours out of my one. 30 min phone, 2+15 screen on, and lite camera use.

I was attempting to test that turn battery saver off prior to screen off theory. My opinion, wakelocks didn't change that much. My One died during that test while I was transferring files to my Wife's phone via Bluetooth so I didn't get a gsam screen shot (my bad).

I do not have a One X to compare, the only tegra devices in my house are my Galaxy tab and my son's Transformer prime. Can't compare phones to WiFi only tablets.

I could try to compare it to my Wife's S3 but that is orange to apples. I have 2 exchange accounts (set to smart sync) along with gmail (gmail app only), have photos set to sync with G+ (full res) and dropbox, and the usual Facebook and Twitter feeds. My wife, no email (have not convinced her to actually use her gmail account for mail.....yet, just got her to switch to Android, give her time!) So on her phone.....nothing syncs beside FB messenger. So, with both phones lying beside eachother and not touched for a few hours her S3 gets slightly better standby time than my One BUT I have everything but the kitchen sink syncing on mine.....not a fair comparison.

I am extremely pleased with battery life on the One, full day for my heavy use patterns, two on lite. I think standby time has more to do with your radio signals (strength) than processor. My oldest son bought a nexus 4 soon after I got my One, so my old One V sat in airplane mode. It finally died after 9 days, 1+15 screen time, WiFi on daytime only. It could never do that with a SIM card in it.

Edit: with enough time to settle, battery guru actually works quite well. Without an Anand style test that is subjective and you'll have to take my word on it but it has made a difference on all my Qualcomm devices.

Edit 2, current devices:

Self: HTC One, One V, Galaxy tab 10.1

Wife: S3, IPad 2

Oldest son: Nexus 4, Transformer Prime

Second son: HTC Desire

Younger 2 kids: share my Wife's retired IPhone 4 as a touch.

All Qualcomm devices have battery guru installed.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
If I flash the stock recovery on stock ROM and try to enter the stock recovery, what should I be seeing? I'm seeing a red triangle now and not sure if that's the right thing to see lol.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yes it is, power and up brings up the menu I think.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Mine has no menu. After selecting Recovery in bootloader, it reboots and shows me the red triangle. I did it right right? Trying to restore it to full stock :)
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Screenshot taken with my One V

One day, one percent. No radios, nothing syncing.

Your standby time is dictated by radio selection, strength, and how much stuff you have set to sync and when. Very subjective stuff in most cases.
[One (M7) General] anit77:
Yup, hit the nail on the head.

I use Greenify & 2x battery and can easily get 2 day of low to moderate use. But I have very good coverage where I live.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/12/...gadget&utm_source=engadget&utm_medium=twitter Engadget on the One mini.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I would like to test those configurations. Thank u
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Gameloft: Brothers in Arms 3
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Not sure how I feel about the white plastic "bumper" also the IR blaster is gone

What I'm actually more interested in is buying another HTC one during mid life and compare build quality
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Also regarding battery guru, one look at the options and it's clear it's trying to minimize background activity during sleep, which nvidia's LP solves physically
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
Hopefully they sell that One Mini a lot cheaper so people actually want to buy it.
[One (M7) General] stesa:
I'll sell my beloved One and buy a mini when will be available. Definitely tired with too big phones.
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Yup, pretty much sums it up.

Works though, you get a list of ALL apps that want to update and can choose to control their behavior. Some of them have no built in options to limit when they can wake your device, a program that does it for me from the builder of my SOC? Bring it!

The location aware Wi-Fi works as advertised too.

Basically, if your OEM did not include software optimization of controlling your SOC and wake cycles, Qualcomm has battery guru to help you. I think it is very cool they released this app, it is updated quite often (once every 1-2 weeks) as well.
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
Don't know but I am bit disappointed just seen a demo HTC one finally here in Greece first of all I was expecting way more from boom sound the sound was good but not loud as HTC advertised.

Regarding the screen clarity was good pixel density phenomenal whites very good but in my opinion it was lacking in contrast videos didn't have that wow factor. I personally think contrast is way better on my HOX screen.

My point is that I now decided to stick with my beloved HOX until htc release something a lot better.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is the very first time I play music on the stereo while browsing (I know I'm late)

Really enjoyable and unthinkable, I probably never thought I would listen to music on a mobile device speakers in my lifetime :)
[One (M7) General] erto90:
I think is better to share your preoccupation ;)
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Wow.... Really? If you were out in public with lot of noise or what not then you didn't get the real feel of boomsound, the speakers are loud and clear as hell. The display on the One X is already amazing so I can maybe understand why you weren't blown away but still the One display is definitely the better display.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
This looks like a butterfly s with dual speakers

Source http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/13/htc-butterfly-s-boomsound-sense-5-leak/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i honestly never liked the butterfly plastic glossy design
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I thought butterfly s will have the same design of One as one mini.

I feel happy for my beautiful one as it doesn't follow the design of butterfly. And tbh I like the design of one x than butterfly.
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
No was at the store there was noise but not too loud. I tried to play a YouTube video and although sound was at max I couldn't hear anything had to bring the phone closer. I then disabled beats which made the sound louder but not by much. I tried the same thing on the optimus g and sound was a lot louder.

Imagine being out and trying to show your friends a YouTube video and they can't hear anything they will think that those covers for speakers are fake.

Come on htc were is the 96dba advertised sound...
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
A girl in my class got an s4. Many people were excited and wants to see it. A guy which is a Samsung fan played with it. He tried the eye scrolling thing, he tried until he got it working, and "it's working! It's working!" His face was really funny, eyes wide open, mouth open, head moving up and down, and not blinking lol, a really funny face. (wanted to take a zoe of him) Then other people got even more excited and tries it. Then that guy said to me "no need to convince me anymore, I'm buying this"

I just don't get this lol. Why are my classmates so interested in that phone? And that function?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
they reduced the volume a little after the 1.29 update, they were worried from all the "popping" sound reports

also confirmed by HTC staff, the volume is still being tweaked
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
easy

samsung are the masters of "gimmicks"

and your example is a perfect showcase of their target audience
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Some people like the butterfly design more than the one. Again, I have no idea why. And some people like the s4 design, the one x design moor than the one. Some likes the black one more than the silver. (the "some people" i'm taking about are my classmates) I think they just don't like the gorgeous look of the silver one?

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Teenagers, gimmicks are wow factors to them, not anything else :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
I tried those and it was a perfectly dumb

I really don't know why all our sensory organs must interact with a Phone:p

#Experience
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
what the **** why do you need a 5 incher 1080p phone from HTC again this year ? ain't the One enough?

besides, HTC started selling butterfly in few places(namely india) just a few months ago and now a newer version of the phone ??
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Some people prefer the bigger phone and its not intended for our markets. This is only a leak it might not be sold again for a while.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
What? You're pointing me? I never told I want a 5 inch phone, besides I got a htc one.

And butterfly s is not gonna be a 5 incher again, it might be a 6 incher according to the rumors with s800.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
LOL not you mate, i am saying why does HTC need another phone of the same level.. lol

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right agreed, it is end of Q3 that we are probably seeing this device in the market!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ASIA ONLY, the butterfly is quiet popular in there

it has nothing to do with the One line

honestly after Samsung's tactics, no body should wonder why anyone is releasing different phones, even Apple is contemplating

the iPhone model is now officially killed

however it's of out-most importance to maintain a clear brand flagship leading the pack ie: the 4.7" One
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I got it mate, but I'm sure butterfly s will be a phablet and might competitor for note 3.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Exactly. The Butterfly S will be a refresh (for regional markets) where the Butterfly has been very popular, for example in Japan:

HTC overtakes Samsung as Japan's No. 5 smartphone maker in Q1

A Butterfly2 is also expected by year end.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Agreed, i read this funny article where a customer enters a store and asks for s4 and we have 4 devices to choose from lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
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[One (M7) General] steve1996:
People get very excited when they hear "galaxy s4", that's what Samsung get from their advertisements.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://bgr.com/2013/06/13/iphone-6-specs-reuters/
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Yup, talking on HTC Butterfly..

It all started from the unexpected success of HTC J who dubbed as One series equivalent for Japan, designed wholly by thier Japan Division. Persuing the successment HTC decided to trial it on their own market Taiwan which has a degrees of admiring Japanese Culture(Products). At the time they was striving to catch up Samsung in Taiwan and the debut of J become a turning point of their market shares in Taiwan. It's worth mention J was operate on Wimax network which may also delimit it's debut.

At the last quarter 2012 there come the Butterfly (Butterfly J) which largely derived from elements of J. However, it expanding the appearances into Asian market but absent from EU markets which some said the design had less attraction on eastern market.

Now with the HTC One on market, you may not realise that HTC Taiwan marketing strategy actually focused on both of them together as the Duo. The market responses proved them right. The design may not fascinating/attract you but it has the standing points in several market. Authentically, I observed that the degrees of women owners of J/Butterfly are higher..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok i just tried iOS 7 beta on the iPhone 5 and anyone who denies its "android" now is fooling himself, it's also obviously laggy at the moment

with that being said, im very happy Apple finally listened, can't wait to have it on my iPad, oh and i definitly hate the transitions and childish simple icons, but its still early and im sure a lot will change till release
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I will be the fool :P its not android just manufacturers have realised there are certain things that are key to an OS its how Brian Klung described it on a podcast he was on. But some design choices are very close lock screen being the main one. I don't think the icons/transitions will change that much people are expecting massive changes near the beta and I don't think that will happen. Dont like most of the icons myself they look awful.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
I don't think my iPod Touch 4 is gonna take that..

I will stick with iOS 5 :)