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[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Which requests and bugs do you mean by?

I have refused most of the feature requests to keep Greenify as simple as possible, and I believe it still fits most users' need.

Bugs are not always fixed in time, since it might lack the essential information (effective feedback, logcat, etc) or it might be not so easy to be fixed.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I may ignore some of your feature request, but just let me know and think about. :)
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Could you help confirm whether it is fixed in beta4? Thanks.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Yes, at present, Greenify is still not so friendly for average users. That's why I started working on a community feature to help more people a little more on making the right and wise decision. Surely, you will be able to opt-out.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
If you read that dialog carefully, it is said to going to hibernation only a while after the screen goes off.
[Greenify] bso44:
When I do a regular reboot, everything is fine. When I fixed permissions in recovery, the experimental features are unchecked again.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
It confirmed my guess. Some old fix-permission script was faulty at this point. Actually in beta 4, if you restart again, they will be back. :)
[Greenify] bso44:
You're saying if I reboot one more time, they'll be checked? Does that mean I have to reboot twice every time I fix permissions?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Yes, it's the best result at present. I'll try to figure out a better solution.
[Greenify] Looki75:
We don't expect you to implement EVERY feature or be able to correct ALL bugs for which you don't have all necessary information.

We DO expect from you effective SUPPORT, which means:

* When a feature is requested, we expect you to ANSWER timely to the requester and EXPLAIN your reasons for not implementing the feature.

* When a bug is identified, we expect you to LOOK INTO it to correct it... and if the user did not give enough background information, we expect you to ASK for ALL the necessary information for you to analyze and correct the bug.

BTW, for devs deserving this name, ALL bugs MUST be corrected. No option here because a BUG is always due to a poorly written program.

And there are always workarounds...

Unfortunately, we don't get this support from you!

Example:

Raikkon's words is just relevant to the situation. Usually you don't support, you just IGNORE.

I won't list all the stuff you let pass by, but in bulk:

* Many features were first ignored by you and when a user finds a Tasker workaround, you magically introduce the feature... so it was not so hard for you in the first place; you just ignored the requesters...

* In the last pages, different users mention specific apps that never get greenified, for some reason. This is a bug obviously. You never looked into that. Never asked for more information, or logcat or anything...

* Very recently, I asked for the possibility to be able to greenify Google Play Services and let the choice to the users, because even if it breaks something, I am ok with that (and other users might as well be).

Your attitude just gives the impression that you don't care about the users, and ONLY develop for yourself. You do what you want when you want on your own. There is no such disclaimer in OP nor in Google Play description. So you are not consistent because publishing your work to the world involves your engagement to SUPPORT the users.

I guess the bottom line is: you dramatically lack COMMUNICATION with your users and you lack COMMITMENT to your users, especially to those who supported you ($$) among which I am.

Hope this post will make you react in the right way!

Cheers!
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I'm sorry. I have to admit not following up tightly with you supporters, I tried to catch up as much as I can. But sadly, I've been busy on my primary job for the last months, a really hard time. Could you image a software developer working from 9:30 - 21:30 every single day including Saturday? I even had no chance to see my 3 months baby awake except weekend, since it's nearly 23:00 when I arrived home every day.

Brother, I live in China, a country you may recall it from repeatedly-reported bloody factories. That's the hard truth about my life. :(

Actually, I have written down all the suggestions which I planned to follow, and all the bugs that I need to look into, in my Trello boards. It is a long list now, but I'm trying to get them done, one by one. Maybe far slower than your expectation. I would like to spend more time on the XDA thread, but that means even less time on my development schedule…… >_<

Again, sorry to have you thought I'm ignoring you, I'll try to be more active on your comments.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Your expectations are unreasonable. Pay him to work for you and then they are reasonable. Remember, most devs work for free, and the few who do pay the pro upgrade, do not pay for the huge amount of time the dev spends. If he answered every post, he would have no time to work on the app. Bugs are not just the app, but the programs that interface with the app, some of those cannot be solved. Check this!
[Greenify] :
-1!

Are you kidding?? Or do you have paid millions of $ to get 7x24 level 1 support from the dev of this app, to articulate such expectations ... ?

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Take your time and take care of your young baby! This is much more important than anything else!

Wish you all the best with your young family - take the right decisions ...

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4
[Greenify] Looki75:
Thanks for your answer. And I understand your situation now.

So I would suggest you to just keep the COMMUNICATION from now on.

I mean, if you remain silent, it could create irritation among the users community.

Just post a note time to time saying: "suggestion added to the list, thanks" or "suggestion refused because X" or "I take note of the bug, and add it to the things to solve"... very quick answers like these and users know what is going-on.

I whish you have more time to play with your children!

Take care!
[Greenify] mark manning:
Wanna know what I think? You come off as extremely entitled. Its is members like you who feel like the world is owed to them that causes devs to leave this site and never to return. No one on this site HAS to communicate with you or do ANYTHING that you demand. Why don't you go start your own project since you seem to be the authority on how things should be ran. I will then expect 100% disclosure and 100% of the bugs to be fixed. Oh... You don't know how.... Well then maybe you should keep comments like that to yourself
[Greenify] :
I actually thought the same thing. He just tells us how crappy is working life is and he barely has time to see his family and all this guy has respond is "Yeah... sure... but you better communicate to me better because I paid 3$. You and your time are mine now!!"
[Greenify] Looki75:
You guys didn't get my point. Oasis did understand me. On first post for sure and I'm sure on the second one too. That's enough.
[Greenify] mark manning:
I think you misunderstood me. Please keep comments like that to yourself. If I see them again I'm not going to be a very nice mod
[Greenify] ahrion:
+1

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You're doing a good job man. Keep up the good work. Spend time with your baby. We can wait. You are doing us a great service by developing this amazing application. $3 may not do its justice, but I assure you that a lot of us here are certainly grateful for your time spent here developing. We appreciate it. Thank you.
[Greenify] harigavara:
Do greenify free app turns that already hibernated app into hibernation evn if opened ourselves n after closing it??
[Greenify] Masapa:
is there any other way to pay for the donation version?

My bank has problems with google wallet, and i would love the donation upgrades + supporting developer of my most used app.
[Greenify] gto:
I've just bought the app to support development and hope more people do the same...

Keep up the great work!

Thanks Oasis!
[Greenify] gabebcn:
I've bought the app as well and very satisfied because I can hibernate the apps but still getting all the notifications

Enviado desde mi GT-I9300 usando Tapatalk 4
[Greenify] dreamland2000:
I have noticed that this app had started to appear at the top of my wakelock lists, above most other apps. I'm assuming this is normal behavior for it to wake the phone so it can hibernate apps?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
As he told me, Facebook only use MQTT in foreground, when switched to background, it only use GCM.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
When opened, app wakes from hibernation, so it needs to be put back into hibernation again when not being used. That's what Greenify is doing.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Will Amazon Appstore be your option?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
That usually means some of your greenified apps were struggling with hibernation. Please check if you have greenified some frequently used apps or system apps.
[Greenify] jaibar:
Nope, it is you who don't listen and don't understand.

Your posts are rude, insensitive, patronizing, arrogant and bad attitude.

Nobody owes you anything, the dev has a life, a newborn baby and a job to keep- and anyway all your rants are false anyway, as he does keep this project alive- just a couple of hours *before* you started whining that nothing is going on, he updated with a new beta version- and then you complained that it is a too minor update, insignificant in your words...

Who are you to judge? Steve Jobs incarnation??

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Greenify] Sean_FD2R:
Wow....seems like someone don't really know what XDA is all about.

And because of he paid $3, he expect dev to be on 24x7 (support) as he put it timely.

This kind of jerk is the one who pushes all the good dev away from XDA.

Haha....wondering what if I pay $30? Can the dev gimme his mobile no and home no? I need more than timely support because I paid $30! ! :D

sent via Hondata FP + NOS
[Greenify] keviv77:
I have hibernated Google+ but whenever I open any other hibernated app like xda it Google+ starts to run I even signed out from it but its always running
[Greenify] jclendineng:
Keep up the good work. Donated and love it. Don't let the **** keep you down. Entitled brat. Best app I've ever installed on my phone. Battery life is great and the concept is totally baller. I've greenified most system apps and services with no side effects. Thanks man!
[Greenify] 93ae8074:
Are you for real mate? How much did you spend in the PRO version? Half of your anual wage? You're being very rude, please come down to real word and lower your expectations 'cos they can't be so high for just $3. :(
[Greenify] kosique:
Hey [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION],

would it be possible to add an option to force a specific app to be hibernated? I have an app installed, "Sparkasse+', that never gets hibernated due to being seen as active. The app, however, is not active besides waiting for push messsages. These will never come in as my bank does not support this. So, I want to force hibernation of the app. It uses about 9% battery over a day. :(

Would be great if you could have a look at such feature at some point....

Thanks,

Marc
[Greenify] fr3nch:
don't give up !

I browse the XDA forum since a while now and I decided to write a support message for you.

Your application Greenify is great : of course, like a lot of things, it's not perfect, but it works very well.

I think life is complicated and you must think about the balance between each side of your life.

For me, as normal user, I am satisfied about your work, I bought the donation version months ago and I am happy when a new feature comes.

Most of XDA readers know you work(ed) hard on your application, forget about the bad words from some people and keep up the good work !

JD
[Greenify] onmyouji:
Please do us a favor, stay away from this forum.

This community don't need user like you.
[Greenify] wilkster:
You may want to look at a program like autostarts where you can manage specific events which allow your app to be started buy non user events.

Sent from my KatKiss JB TF101
[Greenify] jaibar:
Nobody needs to go away, as far as I know he has got a right to post and participate, as long as no xda rules are violated.

The only problem looks to me matching of expectations (or the lack of).

Sent from my GT-I9000
[Greenify] kosique:
Hi there,

yeah, just did this with System Tuner Pro. Greenify now has it in the 'pending' list. Seems to work then. Didn't look into this possibility as it didn't come to mind. :/ However, I'm actually not a friend of disabling services, providers, etc. via ie. System Tuner Pro or any other app as it gets really abscure at some point why something works or does not. I will leave it as is now for the time being but if Greenify would habe a force-hibernation-possibility that would be great...

Thanks,

Marc

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Ok, false alarm. Doesn't work again now. Sparkasse+ won't be hibernated with all Services, Providers and Receivers disabled...

Sick.

EDIT: now it worked again. Investigating.
[Greenify] WelCoMe2DeT:
hahaha so cool :)
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Google+ works as a login provider for many 3rd-party apps, if they allow Google account login, then Google+ is served.

I also noticed some unusual Google+ wake-up recently. When digged in, I found that newer version of Google+ declared an "viewContactNotifyService". That means whenever you are viewing information of any contact, a service of Google+ is started. Not only in Contacts app, but also any circumstances contact info is shown, such as outgoing/incoming calls, social profile with contact photo.

As always, Greenify will put them back into hibernation when your phone is going asleep. So if you have a modern Android phone, you should not worry about that, since it barely drain your battery. The only downside is the possible lag and memory consumption on low-end phones.
[Greenify] melihmucuk:
Hi, I'm using greenify on htc one and really happy with it. But I didnt greenify facebook app. Facebook doesnt exist in running apps list. So I click + button and run the facebook app, then select to greenify. But it didnt greenify. It seems in the list, but when I unlock phone after 15 minutes and check greenify list, facebook deleted. I have to add everytime to list. What was the problem ?

Facebook doesnt system app, why it didnt see in the list ? Also system apps same. I select for greenify but when I unlock phone, system apps deleted from list. I'm using stock htc one 4.2.2 and greenify donate version. Thanks for attention.
[Greenify] harigavara:
yea but i saw the term "auto hibernation" sumwhere when im operating it.then wats dat
[Greenify] Drizzy xS:
Anybody know a good email app that uses gcm push so can be greenified with the donate version?
[Greenify] dzv24:
what percentage of battery that is earned?
[Greenify] kosique:
In what context are you asking?
[Greenify] dreamland2000:
I have a couple of frequently used apps being greenified, just depends on how frequent I use them tho. What wud be best to alleviate this?
[Greenify] jaibar:
How long is a rope?

What's the distance to Berlin?

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[Greenify] bso44:
21.3489784789498478473875948375304734875943%
[Greenify] popthosegaskets:
Use the app yourself and see how much you can save, no point asking for percentage saved when it's going to be different for everyone.

You didn't have to rub him the wrong way...

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[Greenify] Charmacas:
I don't know if you got feedback yet. beta4 does not give me this behaviour. So I hope it's also fixed for the others.

Your post cannot be quoted enough. Even Looki wrote very provocative you keep calm and go on to simply answer him in this way. Great qualification for being a super dad! ;)

As many said before: Take your time and take as much as possible with your family. Nothing else is more important! :)

You're right. And in addition Greenify is a FREE app. You could donate but you do not have to and also get all the great features which are stable. So I think nobody should complain that much.

Very good end of this... hmm... strange discussion.

These short feedback as "I am working on ..." or "Suggestion added" are the suggestions from Looki which you could take oasis. I really don't expect you to write much in here. Reading and very short status reports WOULD be great.

Also I would like to give you the hint that you can press "Multiquote" even over other pages to create only one post with answers. ;)
[Greenify] hansmoon:
Now.. Greenify is a essential app for me.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Since some apps abuse the app state to get themselves not being killed by Android system.

If you have donation version, you can activate the "Block App State Abuse" feature to see, if it is solved.
[Greenify] kosique:
I have the donate version for a long time now. Sure :) Unfortunately, the option doesn't help either. The app won't get hibernated. How the hell can that actually happen with all services, providers and stuff disabled?!
[Greenify] dantezinn:
Just got my Nexus 4 and i just want to root it to install Greenify. BUT i updated to 4.3.

So, is it alredy compatible with 4.3?

The reason i want to install it, its my battery drain, i got something around 11hrs of usage.
[Greenify] MBurns2:
is there a way for making whatsapp push works with donation version ? thanks
[Greenify] blackmoon73:
It does, I just installed it myself. running CM 10.2 (0903 nightly) , device being a i9505

BTW, I found this awesome thread on improving battery life but needless to say requires XPosed Framework to be installed

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2357417
[Greenify] JustSkilled:
i've got your donated version, but here are few things:

sometimes, even on long runs in idle the greenifying doesnt work, so mostly stuff like chrome, play or facebook stay open like forever, causing my phone not to enter deep sleep for long time. would it be possible to force those apps into hibernating state? some more aggressive handling would be nice. because it's weird, when i switch my phone on like 30min later, to see that there are still apps in the "gonna be hibernated soon"-area.
[Greenify] kvlq:
I installed Greenify,xposed installer,greenify donation, check greenify donation in xposed installat, reboot and when i enter in greenify after i press on "enable experimental features" i got the error which you can see in the attachament. What should i do and why it's not working? thanks.
[Greenify] :
How about reinstalling the donation version from Google Play?
[Greenify] Kitschki:
I dont know if its same, but once a guy posted that if you restore data of kakaotalk with tb, you cannot get push anymore, because the push authentication token is broken (?). The solution was to reverify your device by wiping data of whatsapp. If you can find the folder with the gcm preferences, you can backup whatsapp, wipe, take the files from the folder to your sdcard, restore and then replace the files.

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[Greenify] danielalarcon:
+1 on tryin to reinstall the donate, happened to me, also, a few suggestions:

1. if you're on 4.3 verify that you have the latest xposed beta version

2. If you confirm you do, install framework/reboot/enable greenify donate/reboot/check if now works.

It would help to know your ROM and Android version.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Maybe two reasons:

1) The Cleaner service of Greenify is killed by Android due to low memory situation. It usually takes some time to recover (restart), but if the memory is extremely low, Cleaner service may be killed again and again.

2) The root management tool may be unstable in semi-sleep state. It is highly device/ROM dependent. Activating "Boost Mode" in donation version may work around that.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Is it listed in "Pending" or "Not Hibernating" section? What's the detailed reason shown under the app name?
[Greenify] dantezinn:
I guess i would just root it, but can you tell me before and after greenify?
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Greenify has Tasker plug-in support, so make a Tasker profile to hibernate apps when the screen goes off. It works great with everything I hibernate in Greenify, about 12 apps, and I still get GCM push notifications.
[Greenify] bso44:
Any chance you could post or link a tutorial on how to make Greenify profiles in Tasker?
[Greenify] themadproducer:
With the newer versions of Tasker...

- add new profile ( + sign) and name it when asked.

- choose EVENT from popup list, then DISPLAY, then DISPLAY OFF.

- hit back button (new way that Tasker works...I hate it)

- choose "NEW TASK +" at the top of the popup. Name it.

- click "+" button. (again, I very much dislike the new ui....it's far more unintuitive to me)

- choose PLUGIN from the popup list, then HIBERNATE NOW, then EDIT

- Pick either the ALL GREENIFIED APPS option or choose one of the single apps. If, for example, you wish to have 3 specific apps ONLY, then you need to repeat this step 3 times so that there are 3 EVENTS...each one tells Tasker to target a specific app to hibernate.

- press the back button (once again, not very intuitive....it used to be SAVE???)

Now you should have the newly built and named profile in your default. Tasker profile list. It should be GREEN and ENABLED and Tasker itself must be enabled.
[Greenify] MBariya:
I have also created tasker profile same as above way before.

I set time delay for greenify is 15 mins. To avoid accidental greenify running app if screen goes off for few sec.

It works like charm. Go for it.

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[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
I do exactly this except I use STATE -> Display Off, all else is the same.
[Greenify] nikitadag541:
Im so happy :cyclops:
[Greenify] bso44:
Thanks guys.
[Greenify] mbze430:
I just want to be clear with this... did the Dev completely ignore Google Play Services EVEN if you made it in to a user app? Because I used TB to make it as user app and still can't "find it" in the list....
[Greenify] bso44:
In the current version of Greenify, you can't Greenify Google Play Services. It won't stick.

If you want to Greenify it, you need to install version 1.82.
[Greenify] p50kombi:
Racking my brains here..

Tasker has a mighty steep learning curve :)

Could you tell me how to add that time delay?

Do you do it in the profile, or in the task.

Only thing I can find relating to time is the cooldown period.

Been googling for the past hour but can't find it..sorry ;)
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
It is a Task, in the Task edit screen hit + then Task, Wait, add time you want, then back to exit. You can grab the right hand edge of tasks in the task screen to move them up and down, so you can place it before the hibernate task.
[Greenify] MBariya:
By doing this way, it will still create problem. Once your screen goes off it will trigger time countdown and after 15 min it will greenify your apps. Which can create problem if your app is running on screen. We have to do it other way.

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[Greenify] KennethTan20:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]

Are you develop the 2.0.
[Greenify] MBariya:
It is long process.

First create profile name if Display off

Goto context states> display off.

Add task name it display off

Add task variable set

Variable name % DISPLAY_STATES

value add off

Save it by back

Now add new profile

Name it greenify

Go to context variable> variable set> select % DISPLAY_STATES

Save it by back

Add task name it Greenify

Add task if, add variable % DISPLAY_STATES

value off

Add task wait untill, set your time 15 min, if section select variable % DISPLAY_STATES

value off

Now add task plugins> hibernet it> all greenified apps

In if section add variable % DISPLAY_STATES

Value off

Add task end if

Add task go to> step 1

Press back and save it

Done

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