yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
we pretty much know all this stuff ;)

HTC One Auto

SGS4 Auto

HTC One Night Mode (Fixed ISO + more exposure time)

SGS4 Low Light Shot (HDR like multi exposure at long latency)

This actually means the Low light shot on the SGS4 is simply HDR mode, which you also have on the One and can do insane results at low light and yet still has a much faster shutter...

now matter how you spin it, the One slaughters everything else in low light and shutter speed
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm looking forward to Brian getting an Octa version of the SGS4.

He's had this handset for less time than the HTC One so the review is drastically smaller.

I'll have a proper read of it later on... My boss is hanging over my shoulder... :silly:

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The difference in these photos is simply astonishing!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
mate the LLS is mode is simply HDR with long processing time after shooting

Brian should have test the One HDR mode as well, its insane at night and still faster in processing
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Yeah I read about that, it's just taking multiple pics at different exposures and layering them, a la HDR.

It'd be good to see a HDR comparison.

I took a few HDR & Night Mode shots lastnight of the moon as it looked wicked, I'll post them up later :)

iirc I also took a 'backlit' photo, wanted to see what'd happen.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and....even Adobe or professional mode is false

conclusion
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I haven't checked yet but I bet the SGS4 threads are rife with scorn today...

Blah blah "he's anti-samsung" or some $hit.
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
dude i hardly did anything in the One X scene....Just helped out a bit my buddy Wilky and just offered a few guides here and there and new apps i shared when i found something awesome....appreciate your kind words though....but to see me get a different handset apart from a nexus for me is a no i am afraid....to much in love with pure android and updates to give that one up now and the awesome development for those handsets....to be fair though the One i will predict will pick up were the One X should of had.....With the easy to S-off state regarding the chip this phone will reach the limits
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Chinese model, tons of photos

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/261/261355.htm

pretty clear those strips are not gapless, but this is also still a unibody no?

is the ultrapixel still gone?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
OT

I really like the look of this case, it'd be awesome if HTC could get something similar going for the one!

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-s-view-case-review

Vids worth watching.

Only issue is we don't have magnets do we?

HTC One vs SGS4 Faceoff!

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-versus-htc-one-editors-face

S4 review

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-review
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I wrote this elsewhere but David's conclusion on the verge is at odds

he didn't reflect this love in his rushed HTC One review, seems to me it grew on him further, either-way what he says reflect my experience with the device

"refined out of box"
[One (M7) General] eajimoba:
Im residing in Korea and using SK Telecom LTE Networks i believe 850mhz and 1800mhz and wondering if anyone knows the nearest country I can purchase my HTC One that will work with the LTE network in Korea?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
priceless

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2013/04/samsung-galaxy-s4-review-better-but-not-best/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4494722]The-Last-Hylian[/MENTION]

i noticed Asphalt 7 is still without effects on the S600 from the the verge SGS4 review, its also laggy

did you try it yet?
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Nokia puts ST Microelectronics prohibiting the delivery Tufnell microphone to HTC

So HTC most likely will have to find a different microphone part? I was hoping the issue would be resolved by a royalty fee thus HTC getting to keep that precious mic.

OT

This is hilarious, Gsmarena broutgh up SGS4 review yet again for the front page with the following note:
[One (M7) General] patato2:
OK, I had a good laugh reading the whole review. gizmodo don't like S4!
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Dude this review destroyed sgs4 in 1 million piece (and its fanboys heart too).

The One looks like a king compared to it
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Even I feel gizmodo are biased! almost like trolling lol. No , i am not complaining. :angel:

http://vimeo.com/64664185#

Hooa, check the speed comparison of ONE and S4 from 3:06! Don't tell me it's a same CPU and faster LPDDR3.
[One (M7) General] Option58:
They're just telling the truth. I hate Galaxy S4 also.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/327043323149819904/photo/1
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Does that fix the home/back key issue?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
i had no issue with them, but they increased sensivity a lot. No complains anymore.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Off Topic

Quick question. Has anyone else noticed that Google.co.uk & .com are down?

Ouu, 1.29.401.12, hope this gets released for the UK soon!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hello? :)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Hi :)

Didn't see that post, no I haven't tried Asphalt 7 yet, I will do soon :)

Need to buy it first :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea bro its very cheap though 0.99$

anyway ill be buying everthing from now on, i got sick and tired from sideloading last year on my One X

enough...

just a note i wasn't buying them simply because i was spending ages to make them work properly on my One X, plus mostly for testing and not really playing

on my iPad its all purchased

shame we have to buy a gameloft game twice on both platforms
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I've just moved house, had to pay out LOADS so I am broke atm :(

Pity me...

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Just seen that ARHD 7.0 is rocking 1.29.401.13, Brian had .12.

I'm really trying to hold off from ro0ting my One. I want 'at least' 6 months worth of it all being factory stock before I do anything to it...

It took me awhile to do my HOX too, then I caved in...
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I used to do buy many of the games when they are on sale :) $0.99 :)

loads of s4 funny news today :) LOL.. can't stop hitting the Thanks button
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Tried Asphalt 7 a bit:

Fluid in the most scences... But there are also scenes with huge laggs

Details: I have nothing to compare, but the floor is mirroring
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Yo Hamdir I brought Metal Gear,Gears of War and Crysis 3 yesterday :p

So which color will you take for HTC One?

I hope they will bring both colors here
[One (M7) General] vicedens2002:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

This also happened to me once in viveks...:D Samsung is too good in marketing.... Now the ads for galaxy grand and galaxy camera are in full swing... Every channel shows these ads...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
how did u fins crysis 3 on console? I'm still waiting for digital foundry on this one

sorry for the OT guys ;)
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
It's not about average crowd. Thing is the hard facts. a 4mp camera will always be a 4mp camera and a 13mp will always be superior than a 4mp. What HTC needs to introduce here is the technology behind that camera. Or should I say the processing of the images taken by the camera.

More megapixels = higher quality details that's a hard fact and even average customers are aware of.

What HTC did was sacrificed detail quality in order to give way for minimizing noise and natural color.

HTC's camera would be advantageous on small sized pictures where details won't be needed. Like for social networking sites, pocket sized pictures to album pictures.

13mp camera's advantage would be for printing very large pictures like for frames etc.

But I don't know how would average users look at the circumstances in this one. Even just by looking at review sites when they compare photo comparisons the main benchmark is always detail quality and color saturation. So this is a big down for HTC's marketing and it is very hard for them for sure.

And if a competitor releases the same technique made by HTC with a 13mp camera or more then 100% the HTC Ultrapixel thingy would be dumped.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its not possible to release the same technic in 13MP with out growing the camera module itself (like the pure view phone), that's the whole smartphone dilemma! that's the whole point mate, a physical problem when adding mega pixels
[One (M7) General] Diamondback:
Exactly, and making the actual sensor larger leads to thicker devices (no way around that btw, it's physcis ;))
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Guys forget about HTC One for a moment and play Crysis 3.

What a graphics :eek::sly::eek: (obviously PC version).
[One (M7) General] KaSaBiS:
The aluminum would act as a heat sink and temp would change faster and would noticeably warm up faster, the up side being that it will radiate heat away from the components rather than keep it trapped inside plastics.
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
OT:

will get it soon for my PC as well :)

just my htc one is high priority and i need to save some money therefore :D

OT end
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
You speak the truth:) An only mid-range DSLR like the Canon 60D (18 MP) has a CMOS sensor with a die area of 332 mm2. The biggest smartphone sensor on the bulky Nokia Pureview 808 is just 85 mm2, the GS3 / HTC ONE X (8 MP) is much smaller at around 15 mm2, but is back-side illuminated.

HTC have made the correct, and brave decision to stop this stupid Megapixel race with tiny sensors, now their marketing team must get the message out.
[One (M7) General] KaSaBiS:
a lot wrong about this post. It is all about image sensor size, not how many mp's the can cram on it. The larger sensor size will gather more light with greater surface area, thus reducing noise by not having to rely on ISO to correct the image. larger individual pixels to occupy that larger surface area is ideal as it will have less "breaks" or gaps between the pixels themselves. Being able to shoot in low light conditions are always important to me. being able to gather more light faster means it would have a faster shutter, thus reducing blur on people moving indoor, and fast sports setting outdoors.
[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
@hamdir: can you tell me where to look on Elevate for those HTC One's sample photos, i havent logged in for like 2 weeks and i just checked but cant seems to find it, maybe in the member gallery area ?
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Yeah, I posted that 2 days ago, along with some links to pictures.;) http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38346482&postcount=314

But I didnt understand, the black have the same anodized process like the ONE S? Or is just as smooth as the silver version?
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
in this review http://mobile-review.com/articles/2013/htc-one.shtml

gorila glass 3 is metioned .
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no one tried the console version? :)
[One (M7) General] rkial:
I think it has the gorilla glass 2.

How reliable is that site you linked to?
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
No, it isn't.

Given the sort of lens quality and aperture sizes that you get in a smartphone, even if all electrical noise were to vanish from the detector by magic, you probably still couldn't resolve 13MP of actual detail: the image that is focused on the sensor simply doesn't contain that much.

Once you start to include noise in the calculation, you lose even more detail, because the only way to remove the noise is to lose detail in the image. More megapixels in the same sensor size mean more noise.

And on top of that, even if there really were 13MP of real detail in the image, unless you're viewing the image somewhere where there actually are 13 million pixels IN THE DISPLAY, you can't see all of the detail, and having it in the image is wasted.

So, very much not a hard fact.
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It is as same as the silver.. but I guess if the paint goes off when it falls or somthing , you wont notic it in the silver that much as its whitish underneath I guess..I guess thats what he meant..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
The black HTC One will have a similar finish to the black iPhone 5 I imagine.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I will just leave this here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38428844&postcount=16141
[One (M7) General] eajimoba:
Hi looking to purchase the HTC ONE International Version M7 and want to use it in South Korea and wondering if it will work? Either 3g or 4g LTE

Here is the bands for the International Version

Band	GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) WCDMA (UMTS)/HSPA 850/900/1900/2100

And the bands available to be as im on SK Telecom

850mhz lte

1800mhz lte

2100 UMTS/HSPA

I'm guessing that the 1800 and 2100 mhz bands overlap I should probably have both access to 3g and 4g lte?

Thanks so much guys!
[One (M7) General] huxley309:
See htc have been very busy, good on them i say.

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
full effects should look like this (ipad)

cars should be reflecting their surrounding
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Ah, it definitly does. In my eyes more then on the ipad version:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no the iPad screenshot i took isnt showing the reflection in this particular instance but they are there

sorry to break it but the game is clearly running in low track mode, it has a fraction of details and textures...
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Bloody Gameloft...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
still i dont think its noticeable to the naked eye

the colors however...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
back to the numbers game

so according to brian

so lets look again because his results are relying on the older Egypt HD 2.5 in which its 117% faster

here the results from Egypt HD in GL 2.7 in which the One saw an increase

so in Egypt HD the SGS4 is 8% and in Trex 13.4%

this is inline with the 50mhz clock increase in my opinion, no obvious benefits form drivers

the ES3.0 level drivers might not be on the SGS4 either, what is clear however is that the SGS4 is receiving a better bin of this same chipset, when they promised 3x Adreno 225 they actually meant this one
[One (M7) General] beno619:
The whites bother me the most .

On my daily commute I see a radioactive looking blue/green glowing screens turned up to max brightness just to make them legible.

Then i return to the glory that is the One X's screen.

If they fix whites I could accept/enjoy Amoled's over saturation, otherwise its plain disgusting.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
You're taking some figures from the Anandtech review and some from the GLBenchmark site, right? That isn't consistent, for example the GS4 scores 16.8 FPS @ GLB, not 15.3 fps. Both Brian and Anand live in hot areas, Arizona and North Carolina (IRC), with higher ambient temps than many of the reviewers in northern Europe / Russia etc, which may partly explain why they always have lower figures than others.

UPDATE - WAT, the highest score in GLB 2.7 T-Rex HD has gone from 16.8 fps to 15.3 fps, weird. My argument still stands :)

Secondly, the GLbenchmark 2.5 figures obtained from running within GLbenchmark 2.7, are higher than running directly from the old Glbench 2.5 app, at least on Adreno 320 devices, why I don't know!

Compare, the One & GS4. There is more at work than a 12.5% GPU Clock speed increase, mostly drivers, some effect from higher bandwidth is also possible. Also, OpenGL ES 3.0 compatibility won't improve scores on a OpenGL ES 2.0 benchmark, the GS4 is using the latest drivers according to GLB.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ES 3.0 drivers dont indicate better performance but do indicate the latest

as for my scores yes i pulled them from the 2.7 GL results hence my whole point :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
haha

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+VicGundotra/posts/D47KhuxMWBz
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One: Comparing Megapixels With UltraPixels
[One (M7) General] rkial:
Pretty much endorsing the HTC One.. thats big
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I am loving every comment made by Vic out there... by this time Google would have realized that it has forgotten HTC. Something tells me Google will go back to HTC for a Nexus soon!
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
If you look at the graph in my post, there is more than a 12.5% difference between the One & GS4, that 15.3 fps is an aberration, many GS4 have reported between 16.8 and 17 fps in T-rex. Regarding drivers, THE GS4 / i337 etc is listed on GLB with both the 2.0 & 3.0 drivers, however they are both on the same revision number: AU 14.0, the 3.0 are just adding compatibility to the 3.0 es API featureset.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Yupp its +1000 for HTC! Go HTC Go!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i wonder why those 16.8fps scores disappear from the GL website

eitherway ill correct my post ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Koush: HTC One Review
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Root Rogers HTC One (M7/801AGRY) With S-ON Problem/Fix
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One not banned in Europe, despite preliminary injunction verdict won by Nokia
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The Verdict Is In: Samsung's Galaxy S4 Isn't The Best Android Phone
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
CyanogenMod 10.1 for HTC One (m7_ul) :) --> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2248116
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
I loved reading all the S4 reviews today. The best part? Reading them on my One!:cool:

[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]. I have an IPhone 4, and IPad 2 in my house (Wife's) and Transformer Prime (oldest son's). Any game or other comparisons you'd like to see?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
all your devices are too old now and they don't support the full effects ;)

anyway this is mostly a gameloft problem so dont bother
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Yeah that's what I figured, thought I'd offer anyways.

This is an awesome phone all around, then again I am coming from a One V!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Preliminary ban of HTC One lifted in the Netherlands
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Could you please see what webkit version is listed in settings

A clean run on Mozilla Kraken would be great. All these improvements, make me wish that HTC could have polished the software before it sent out review devices, it would have been epic.
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
a german sgs4 s600 3dmark bench:

My HTC One scored slighty better with v1.27 and my physic score is much better. Anyone of you maybe know, why the s600 of s4 is so bad in this physic part?

One score: :D
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Could someone tell me what is so special about this mic technology? Realistically will most users notice any difference if HTC have to go for a different supplier? Any chance that the decision will be appealed or has that ship sailed?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[Kernel][04/24/13][001] KozmiKKernel [CPU OC][GPU OC][Sense][AOSP?]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So who is willing to try GPU 450mhz? :)
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Tryed @ 487 MHz got 37 FPS in 2.5 HD
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Who is not ? :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No please try Egypt HD in gl benchmark 2.7 and Trex
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Yeah I meant Egypt HD, sorry it was 2.7 ;)
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Check this thread out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2234513

And then look at anandtech's review on it:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review/8

The biggest advantage is when it comes to loud noises/environments

the supplier have appealed the decision. HTC have been ordered to find a new supplier iirc.
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
Not much difference. So 4.2.2 driver push the One more forward, or iam wrong.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So odd it's same as without OC I don't GPU OC is really working

Can u bench again at default GPU

Also run his test standalone to prevent throttling
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Exactly the same result as the stock device. Frequency didnt assumed?!
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
deleted...

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] shox22:
12726.6ms

534.30
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Still an older webkit version, it looks like they just optimised for Sunspider, as Kraken has improved.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Vellamo tests are also a bit better
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Or people are running into voltage / thermal limits. Ideally the test should be done with the CPU set at 1.3 GHz, to minimise GPU throttling, or some nice undervolting....

---------- Post added at 10:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:03 PM ----------

Vellamo includes Sunspider test;)
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Thanks that's really helpful. Hopefully I will be getting my handset in the next few days so it won't affect me anyway. It would be a real pity if this did any significant damage to HTC's bottom line though as they have really knocked it out of the park with the One.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Still an older webkit version, it looks like they just optimised for Sunspider, as Kraken has improved.

I'm an idiot!, 12,xxx ms on Kraken is a 15% improvement, using Anandtech's review as the base. HTC must have optimised for Sunspider, as well as using a updated javascript V8 engine.
[One (M7) General] Webfire:
New comparison review @ dpreview Super Shootout: Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One vs Apple iPhone 5 vs Nokia Lumia 920
[One (M7) General] jesr:
hamdir what do you think it's going to happen with this mic situation? Do we have any precedent events like this one to make any predictions?

Regarding the latest camera update:

HTC One: update improves camera dramatically
[One (M7) General] honorstudent:
The Samsung Galaxy S IV Reviews Are Great for the HTC One

nice article from yahoo. :)

http://news.yahoo.com/samsung-galaxy-iv-reviews-great-htc-one-144747459.html
[One (M7) General] patato2:
"The Samsung Galaxy S IV Reviews Are Great for the HTC One"

I admit I gave quite a thought about the title. then, OH! it's not saying S4 is great. dah.
[One (M7) General] honorstudent:
Thats what i was thinking also before i read the article. :laugh:The more i read the reviews of sgs4, the more i want the one.. I want the one now!! :crying:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
German court throws out a patent claim in Nokia vs HTC lawsuit

Official response

HTC insists Nokia's injunction won't affect the One's current stock, new mics in the works

I hope Barry can relax now :laugh:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
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yea i know impressive, but like we all know metal will not scratch it but sand will ;)
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Every editor at Pocketnow prefers the One apart from Jaime who is knowhere to be found, lol

http://m.pocketnow.com/2013/04/25/samsung-galaxy-s-4-or-htc-one
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Just incase it hasn't been posted:

Techradar SGS4 review: http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s4-1137602/review/1#articleContent

Even better...
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Lol

...Duck... Duck... Plastic Goose...

It's like looking at a family that's got a set of hot twins then there's that one really ugly half-sister...

Kardashians

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Anywho, expandable storage vs loading times... Who wins?

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Samsung Galaxy S4 versus HTC One in Central Park

Interesting to see the public reaction... how many people say "I have an iPhone"

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes they will all venture into other devices for a while and they will all go back to the iPhone :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
goes here for completion sake :)

[YOUTUBE]Q5hMSxPcYCg[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] skivnit:
At least have the decency to quote everything, are you a paid shill? They love it and it's 4.5/5

Swyped from another galaxy
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes no one is denying that it is a very good smartphone, he is quoting the parts relating to the HTC One and hence the entire point of this thread