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[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
I would but have zero knowledge about devving :( maybe volk would be interested :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
I would be glad to help if you want to give it a try.

I would like to get a group together of folks with different talents to make the next rom on whatever the next phone will be.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Sure why not PM me what is needed :D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lanewhit:
No developer experience but I'm always willing to beta test. I would hate to see you go as I won't be able to jump ship to another device for a while... I will say that I'm not crazy about the icons in sense 5 so I will ride this Rom out as long as I can.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
I am disappointed HTC drop the ball on this one... They really need a big hit this days as they are a much smaller company than Samsung. I said after getting the OG EVO after the Samsung EPIC I would never do a Samsung phone again. And I wish that were still true, but there several things about the One I have problems with. I like HTC phones and if I did go with the One, maybe I could find a work around for the things I don't. I do wish more would post they thought about if they are planning on getting a new phone. But as most of you know. Only a hand full post here and you are what keeps the thread going. It's a small group that download and use the rom. Some where's around 150-200 folks. You couldn't tell that by the number who ever post. To all who do, THANK YOU!:angel:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
Thanks bud, you have always been there for me. Never getting angry because of my many screw-ups and always willing to test. A special thank you x's 1,000,000,000,000,000.:D
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lanewhit:
If I had more time, I would love to learn how to develop themes and roms but it's just not gonna happen with work, family, taekwondo, a grand daughter along the way, 3 weeks of travel coming up for work... I don't know how you keep up with it all. For that, I am truly thankful for all the hard work you and other developers put in so that people like me can have the best possible experience on our phones: good.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] billyho7993:
Imo I think I'm gonna stay put with this phone cuz the one isn't really that big of an upgrade from what I read and if I want sense 5 there is a Rom already for this phone and tbh the only difference is the blinkfeed..while I have been running sense 5 since it came out cuz you know I love change :D and trying new roms it just isn't very exciting to me and I actually like sense 4 better..don't get me wrong its nice and very smooth but they removed some widgets I liked and the whole shortcut thing with the apps is pretty annoying since you can't use custom icons on the nav bar unless you are able to change the icons in the app drawer..just my 2 cents but who knows I might change my mind and end up getting it but for now I'm sticking with my EVO 4g LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
My wife wants her upgrade for next month and won't give me hers. She's getting the one. This is a good excuse for a divorce, right?
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
Yea, as least in my boot with billyho as the only exception.

LOL, now I can't remember what boot was suppose to be. You never know what spell check is going to put.

Thanks guys for posting your thought. And the same points I keep rolling around in my head. Sense is what got me to come off the EPIC. I loved the flipping sense clock, seen kind of funny as a reason. It just look cool compared to Beautiful Widget clocks. I was in love with the OG EVO from day one. I searched for two weeks when they first hit. Could not get one any where. So I got the EPIC and keep it for 8 months, then I finally found the EVO and hated to drop it for the LTE. Wish I could say the same feeling was there for the One or I would have gone to BestBuy already. The shortage of OG EVO was created back then by Samsung. They made the screen for the OG EVO and told HTC their factory could not supply the demand needed for the EVO. Which I think was a lie just so they could push their phones.

I hate Samsung phones because they are always slow in releasing software updates. When I had the EPIC on what I think was froyo and ICS came out. The OG EVO had it 6 months before Samsung finally got around to updating the EPIC. I was told by other phone junkies before I got the EPIC that was a problem with Samsung and it's phones. I have a 55 LED TV in need of a firmware update and still waiting for it and that was 2 years ago. As much as I hate some of the new things HTC did with the ONE, they are great for getting problems with their phones fixed much quicker than other vendors.

So far the score is +4 for the ONE and +4 for SG4..

And forget about Micromoney and the windows phones, they are a joke.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roninep:
I went to a Sprint store and spoke with the rep, who was knowledgable. He also had the One, and had just unlocked it that day. He told me about the no 8-core, which I hadnt heard about. I looked it up, and the US and UK are not getting it. Supposedly its being released in Asia with the 8-core, but not here. Now maybe another carrier will pick it up, but for my carrier, Sprint will not carry it now. That is a big issue for me, as it was the deal breaker over the One. Now the only differences for me are the removable battery, sdcard and screen size. Everything else seems even. Although the screenshots being put out of the camera seem to show the One as being a better picture taker, but I would think a good camera app would even that out too. Case quality doesnt matter to me due to using a case cover. I must admit the Ones sound ROCKED on the reps phone - external speakers are very good. I do not want blinkfeed, but that is removable.

For me, I feel the camera, software, blinkfeed, and speaker sound seems like it can be addressed via different ROMs. The quality is covered up by a case. I like removable battery (although with TWs ROM battery life wasnt a problem after having this phone for 1.5 years - I still get a solid day). I like the sdcard (although Ill get a 64gb and probably never remove it again).

I havent put a 5" screen next to a 4.7". I think that will be a deciding factor when I do it. Just my 2 cents worth.

TW I will be happy to beta test anything on whatever phone I get.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Downloaded from my phone.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] travisw0204:
Well I'm an HTC guy through and through dating all the way back to the Mogul. I've never owned any other make of phone. I climbed the ladder all the way to the EVO LTE and I can honestly say throughout the years this and the OG EVO were the only ones where they just seemed to fall behind on updates and source releases. That's the only thing that made me lean towards a Samsung. I love Sense and THANK GOD for devs like you Wolf that bring the best out of a Rom and keep it as close to stock as possible with a few needed tweaks here and there. I don't know how anyone could run a stock, unrooted LTE and be satisfied. Its like driving a Ferrari 65 mph on the Autobahn. I've never liked the AOSP or CM roms because they just feel too IPhoneish to me and that's the one thing keeping me away from Samsung. My girl has the Galaxy S2 and loves it. I must admit its quick but I just can't deal with the OS and its likeness to the IPhone. I feel like I'm a stones throw away from getting an IPhone if I get a Samsung. However, with that said, if HTC doesn't shape up and release a One version with an SD card I hate to say that my next phone will be a Samsung. I'm sorry but the whole cloud business and keeping all of my information on my internal sd card is not cool. What happens if you forget to sync it and the phone breaks? You are outta luck because once you exchange it all of your info is gone. At least with an SD card you can pop that bad boy out, throw it into the new phone and voila back up and running in seconds. I like having a hard copy of all my info. I'm just an old school guy like that and no sd card slot is a deal breaker for me. I will hold out as long as possible because I love my LTE. However, all of us here, are always looking for the next big phone release and hence this conversation now. My upgrade isn't until next year so hopefully HTC is lurking on XDA and seeing the feedback from their loyal customers to bring the SD card back because ummmmmm no removable battery AND no sd card slot is like having an IPhone and if they are going that route, Samsung here I come. I can deal with TouchWiz with another launcher and get as close to Sense as humanly possible.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
I am getting the one. Don't want to rub it in, but using my wife update.

:) I was waiting for the black one, but my time is running out, the end of April is near. Decisions, decisions.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] rawintellect:
I'm all in on the SG4. My Otterbox defender should be here today for it. I had it overnight-ed. :) My pre-order of the SG4 should be here saturday.

I too have owned NOTHING but HTC. However given the difficulties I've had and all the hoops I've jumped though (although educational) just to get s-off (oh and the shady deal with hboot 2.09 blocking writing to the /system partition when I was s-on) I've moved on. Maybe I'll come back one day. Maybe I won't. But I refuse to show any allegiance to a company that has shown active disdain for the dev community (ie the RUU issue and giving that webmaster a "cease and desist" over hosting RUUS? Then claiming to "support the development community"? That's comical.). HTC at the moment IMO isn't worth my loyalty.

So I'm giving the other guy a whirl. Samsung. Why not? I paid full price ($600+) for the LTE. That's how much hope I had for this phone and HTC in general. But sadly the only thing that made it bearable was devs like TW and flex360. So like I said before I managed to buy it for $271.00 as an EXISTING customer...so you bet I jumped at it. And I won't be looking back.

Don't even get me started on kernel source and the lack thereof. Or should I say how long they took to finally give it to us.

As for sense? I won't miss it. At all. I don't even use it on this phone. I use Nova launcher which I have tricked out to resemble sense. (see attached screenies) I can use NOVA on the SG4 if touchwiz lets me down. I doubt it will. But then again I get bored fairly quickly and who knows? lol!!! Anyway a UI is just a UI to me. The ROM and the dev behind it certainly matters to me.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] deBricker:
Lol. I see that they used "megapixels" even though HTC uses "ultrapixels" now...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
You guys that are bouncing to Samsung check vire launcher if you get sick of Touchwiz. I used it on cm10.1 and throws a level of polish on there that puts it up at Senses league
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
I have never even heard about it. Thank you. When I go senseless, I use next launcher.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
I hope you change your mind on the One, but I know the feeling. Read my comment before you commit to the One.

If you buy the 32gig version and losing 6 of it to the system. 28gigs can put a real hurting on you for space. Yes I could use the cloud for my music storage. Have u tried driving around town and keep hitting dead zones and have your music skip or stop playing. I like the cloud storage for somethings but not streaming my music for videos. With Sprint network it hit or miss with your connect and the speed you are going to get,. Plus depending on the time of day. I like you paid full price for my 2nd LTE. My first one went belly up during a flash so off it went for repair. I felt HTC would tell me my phone was unlock, s-off and would not honor the warranty. Feeling it would take 6 weeks or longer to get my phone back, I bought a 2nd one for full price. Two weeks my baby was returned! I put it away with plans to use it as a backup because of all the flashing I was doing. 1 week after getting the 2nd phone, it too went bad as well during a reboot. Didn't have to wait on HTC this time, Best Buy took the phone back and gave me a new one. Then I get around to getting the HTC repaired phone activated, Sprint can't get it work on their network. HTC customer service tried for 3 hours and finally said they would ship me another one. When asked the length of time they said 5-7 working days. Told them I would get one at the local Sprint store. Before going to the nearest store I called, but they didn't have one in stock and would order with delivery time in 3 working days. Well that was on Friday, call Tuesday and the sales person couldn't find my order. I then spoke to the manager who said they had another phone that wasn't picked up and I could get that one. Off I go to the store 20 miles away only to get the same story "We don't have you phone" Spoke with the store manager again and she finally found the phone. The battery was totally dead and after 30 mins. waiting the phone wouldn't take a charge. So they locate another phone and the process starts again with a dead battery. Another 30 mins and yes Houston we have lift off !! This one will hold a charge, 1.5 hours to exchange a phone.:mad::(

I too dislike the games HTC is playing with the bootloader's. The Samsung TF700T tablet was much easier to root. But did you know that Samsung has a counter of how many times you flash a rom. I have read there is work around to reset it to 0, but another thing we have to deal with. Since they all are using source code/mods and many other things found here on xda. You would think they wouldn't be such assholes about locking the phones down that we have to risk bricking the device so we can make it better. So they can steal the great ideas that come from this site and many others.

Just another fancy way not to tell us the truth behind the true specs about the screens. For the life me I don't know why I am even thinking of changing phones. Other than having something to play with. :D Too bad wife's aren't the same! Just got hit over the head by my wife! :crying: Hey, wife's are saying the same thing about us;)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
LOL, going senseless, I thought I was already there! With thinking of getting another phone. I was like that with pc I would build, keep it for 3 months. Then sell it for a little bit more than I had in it just to start again... Microsoft started to not believe me when I said I installed XP again on a different computer. Had to use a hacked version of XP on those pc's so I didn't have to go thru the process with the support center to type another 48 digits to get activated again.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roninep:
Ive been reading post after post, review after review, etc. I just read a hands-on review on Foxnews about the SG4. After I posted earlier I started thinking about the sdcard issue, if the One would release a new version with it, a removable cover, better camera, sound, storage, color, build quality, etc. All of the issues that are important. Its crazy.

I had Samsung for 2 years, then switched and went HTC with the Hero, Evo3D, and this. I enjoyed both manufacturers. I have had no issues with service, returns, flashing, etc and everything has gone smooth the entire time for all my phones and carriers.

My upgrade date is May 1st. Im starting to think it would be smarter to sit back, enjoy this LTE that has been kicking butt ever since I got it a year and a half ago, that does absolutely everything I need it to, that is tweaked, ROM'd, rooted, and running like a champ without a hiccup.

Im simply thinking is it worth it to change, when both these new phones have a lot of change left in them (hardware/software) over the next few years. Maybe wait a bit until all the smoke clears. Oh, the decisions to make...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Timberwolf , I understand what you mean by bad experience with HTC. Wow. I am not 100 % sold on HTC one , maybe 95 . The thing is that I saw Samsung s4 from the Samsung rep a day before yesterday in Manhattan on 6 av and west 14 st. There is corporate sprint store there , I came to take a look at the black HTC one. The sprint rep said that they didn't have them available. There was a lady by the counter , she asked me if I am interested in Samsung. I said no. She said it's sg4. She let me play with it for about 15 minutes. The things that I liked are it's thinner than sg3. It's fast . I asked her if I would be able to shut off all that extra stuff like humidity check, moving pages with the eyes, she showed me that there are a lot of toggles in notification area ,that can shut it off. I also liked certain camera futures, for example, if say you took picture of two people , and you don't like how one person face came out, you can fix just that person face , without touching the other person face or the whole picture. I didn't test the camera in low light since it was bright outside. The things that I didn't like so far are for those 15 min that I played with the phone , in the end the back of the phone got really hot. I mean really hot, I don't know how it would feel when the weather will get hot outside. Secondly, I didn't like how the colors on the screen look, but it could be because I am used to HTC screens. Sorry for a long post. If it does not belong in the thread , let me know and I will delete it.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roninep:
Volk i read th same thing sumwhere about it getting hot on the back. Thats scary if 15mins of use is all it takes. How did the bigger screen look? Impress u ?

Sent from my rooted/rom'd HTC Evo 4g LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
Sure it belongs in this thread. And as I said in a previous post, you all are free to discuss about the on going phone issues here all you want. And I am for one happy you do... You can read and watch every video you want and everyone talks about the same things. How good the case is on the One and how cheap the SG4 feels. Listening to all the new feature Samsung is bring to the table sounds good at first. But will we really use them in real life. I am glad you bought up the point about the phone getting warm or even hot. That is a good point not to get one because heat like that will cause the phones life to be much shorter. I don't know if that is because the battery in smaller and not spread out like the one in our LTE or in what comes with the One. As you said in a previous post they are ways around the limited storage on the One. And maybe a safer and better way of protecting your data by being able to disconnect it from the port. Does add to more things to carry around... As far as quality goes, HTC wins the battle hands down over Samsung. Does have a better quality screen, or at least in theory even if it is smaller. I have a Dr's appt. today, maybe I will stop in BB and put my hands on the One. The part that I am afraid of, knowing once I do I will be hooked.

Keep you thoughts coming as I will be reading them on Tapatalk.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Sloth:
Here fishy fishy :p

Sent from my PoS MoPho :p
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
If you mean am I leaning toward the One, the answer is yes. Saw it with the Epic and the phone getting really warm during calls. And some what on OG EVO but not not as much as the Epic. The LTE has been really good with only getting a little warm during long calls. I still think that might be the reason for dropping the replaceable battery. The hot battery might be the final arrow to the heart for the SG4.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] volk9029:
Sg4 looks better and thinner than sg3. As rewarding the phone getting hot , yes it did , but I don't know how many things she had being running in the background. I just want to give my unbiased opinion. The screen of sg4 looks nice but the colors doesn't compare to the one. Then again I am used to HTC phone's screen.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
You know I have been there with phones getting hot. And now that you mentioned it, I think it's a killer for me on the SG4. And no, it's not what she did before you getting the phone in your own hands. If that were true, you would have noticed it when she handed the phone to you. The cameras in both phones is not a plus or minus on either phone. Never found one yet that could compare is even a low budget dedicated camera. Sure we always have the phone with us most of the time. But for great pictures no phone on the market or even in the plans will ever come close to a good SLR camera. LOL, just look at the size of the lens and that well tell all. LOL and 2.0 lens, give me a break. Were 1.4 is the norm for a normal SLR and 1.2 is the one to wish for. I do wish the One came with JB 2.2 out of box so we didn't have to spend a much of time on a rom that will be replaced in the next couple of months. Now with that has been said, when I leave today for my appointment. I get the feeling the One will be coming home with me. Like someone said, with BB you can always return it for an exchange after getting my hands on it. I am the type person who hates to do things like that... But since it's there, it's a good way for me to give the One a chance for a week in my hands to if it's worth the time.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Riff76:
Wolf you need to make a theme for cm10.1, that way no matter what I pick I can still have your touch on it
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
U know I have never even looked at any of their builds. So I no idea what they have or don't have. Keeping up the EVO LTE and the T700 tablet has keep me busy. Going to give the one a shot for a week and see if I can live with it. Not going to root until I decide I will be keeping it. That's the hard part me, normally last one day before I start pulling it apart. but with all the launchers and widgets available I am hoping to tough it out for at least a week. Knowing me, maybe not.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] sslbaron:
Sad day. Another good developer moving on...:(

Sent from my EVO LTE enjoying Blues and Jazz :cool:
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Trialsoul:
Let me know when your for sure for sure which phone you go with cause I'll go where you go Twolf.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
I am now home with the One. Give me a few days to play and then another week to get a feel for the One. With BB I have 15 days to switch to the SG4. Not going to root until I know I plan to keep it. Unfortunately HTX took the skin option away. Going to install Apex launcher to get rid of Blinkfeed. For me, the first thing to go. Plus out of the box keyboard calibration sucks with 75% wrong characters hitting the screen.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] roninep:
Sweet !! Not only do we get a kickass ROM, but our dev is doubling as a hands-on reviewer. We await your results TW !!

Sent from my rooted/rom'd HTC Evo 4g LTE
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] lanewhit:
Nnnnnnnooooooooo! You can't leave...
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] travisw0204:
Yeah Wolf work the hell outta that thing. Let us know how life is like without a SD card and if its even worth upgrading aside from sound alone
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
Will do, just trying now to get it liveable without my theme. Tough to do without rooting. But don't want to do it until I know I am keeping it. I must say the screen is beautiful and sharp with no lag any where.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] timberwolf671:
Sorry bud, U needed a new toy.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Darealboot:
Capt. Has a thread for it here somewhere. He stays on top of the firmware updates very well. Oh and by the way, the radio's themselves aren't individual, you'll have to get the full firmware update. Won't effect hboot. If I wasn't on the forum ap, I'd look and find a link for you, but I'm being lazy :roll:

sent from my evolte courtesy sense5 port.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] travisw0204:
That's a great start....