yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] unknown13x:
Buy what you think suites your need most. Don't follow trends. Even insiders will have to pick something eventually. No body can wait forever for phones that will be the latest and greatest as there will always be something better around the corner. If you like it, buy it, if not, wait it out. :good:
[Xperia Z General] archheretic:
Let's go easy on spectre here... We don't want anyone getting in strife at work over supplying phone info. Been there, done that. It sucks, hard.
[Xperia Z General] dkgip:
These types of comments speak volumes...c'mon people read between the lines here, be patient.

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[Xperia Z General] Daman09:
Coming from the Galaxy Note comunity, The South Korean varient of their Note had LTE and a Exynos chipset, while the US only got LTE and a lower powered qualcomm chipset, and the international varient didn't get LTE. Doesn't sound TOO far out of the realm of possibiliy for me.

Would be interesting if this was true, definitely torn between the Xperia Z and HTC One at this point. Luckily, I don't have to make a decision until May.
[Xperia Z General] theofficialpimp:
You're just jealous.
[Xperia Z General] danw_oz:
This is not a really a device like that, it already has pretty much world carrier support, so I also feel that it is highly unlikely to ship with a different chipset, I think very likely for the ZL to contain the new chipset.

I believe the delay is manufacturing/supply issues. If Sony don't get this phone out before HTC One, I think they will loose a lot of sales. This phone seems to have been sort of out for a very long time not to be on shelves already
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Lol yeah okay you got me.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Mitsuya Cider:
Just trying to be the "smart" buyer.

Anyways, I think I can settle for a S4pro and 320. There aren't many applications for mobile platform that requires such powerful devices anyways.

if I want to play games, I'll open my laptop.

I don't want to go hard on spectre, just all this talk on the forums have made me think twice if this is a device worth owning now or waiting 3 months in when it's dropped a bit.
[Xperia Z General] indianl:
Is there any place to pre-register for information on when XZ will be available in the US? Looked in the Sony online store, couldn't find anything (unlike with HTC's website, where it is easy to register for details on the upcoming One :) )
[Xperia Z General] schaggo:
AW: Leak **** leak xperia z

Going for htc, going for htc, the Xperia Z is so last gen, it's so last gen... To be honest, you all shouting this **** are utter retards. Shouting around for your 15 minutes of internet fame.

I have an Xperia T, it's powered by - I don't know if you ever heard about it, it's so last gen maybe you weren't even born back then - a dual core Krait CPU. For the less savvy, that's the less powerful dual core Snapdragon S4 variant of the quad core S4 Pro CPU in the Z. With that, the T is very well powered.

Get the device you want, hell yes do. I'm in no way a Sony fanboy or HTC hater. I have plenty of HTC devices still laying around, they served me well. But those being really turned on by the Z but NOT getting the Z because it's "last gen" and "got no power under the hood" and **** like that are just ****heads. These two devices (One and Z) are so overpowered, in terms of raw processing power they/we have come so far, getting the device with the APQ8064T instead of the one with the APQ8064 because it's "less powerfull" is like arguing which shotgun is the better to be shot strainght in the face by: the one with the higher muzzle velocity or the other one. Let me tell you, the difference will not be felt, both will deliver a pretty convincing experience. Although, on paper, there might be a difference.

Keep in mind, Sense is a whore eating all your resources anyway. I can't imagine the APQ8064T cpu to perform much better having to move a FULL HD Sense UI and overloaded Android system than the APQ8064 powering a relatively light UI of the same resolution. The Z launcher, which I tried, runs absolutely flawless on my antique Xperia T as does Sony's 4.1.2 Android. The Z must be absolutely creamy to experience and operate.

My 2¢, I'm out.
[Xperia Z General] irishrally:
^^ Name calling is unnecessary here. If you're going to be excessively sarcastic at least try to make it humorous.

Hope you enjoyed your "15 minutes of fame" with the longest post in the thread.
[Xperia Z General] killerskincanoe:
if u think this is the poorest of marketing moves clearly you haven't been a sony consumer for long
[Xperia Z General] schaggo:
AW: Leak **** leak xperia z

Ironically, I wasnt being sarcastic.

I got the device in the meantime and I can't put it any other way: this thing flies, never ever experienced any earlier Android release this smooth on any earlier device.

I get my daily dose of 15 minutes :D :thumbup:
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
I want to hear more from the op about his source lol
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Yeah totally no source.
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
dont get me wrong i want to believe because that would be awesome
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
It will be nice to have it but since i live outside usa.... Maybe i will tell my friend in us to ship me one if its true. :)
[Xperia Z General] StacksTM:
I have to respectfully disagree with both of you. To date, the 6606 white paper has yet to be released meaning it contain any chipset or specs imaginable.

Now lets look at what has transpired and the current ecosystem in Europe. LTE isn't mainstream out there yet and Sony is looking to make a strong impact which is why the variants currently available have been released there first. Packing in the Snapdragon 600 doesn't add huge value in those markets. The bonus to launching it there first is to get ahead of the competition while simultaneously wetting the palette of those in more advance markets of what this device can do. This buys them time to build in the new chipset for the advanced markets.

Considering the current variants lacking LTE support on AT&T and T-mobile, I think launching a Q1 version in the US with HSPA+ capitability unlocked would be a huge mistake knowing the type of market share that technology currently possesses. They want the freedom of a world phone and eliminating the US LTE GSM market isn't in the cards.

Considering Sony has some great minds at the helm to release a product like this, one has to be leaning towards a Q2 Launch with LTE 4 and 17 band support with the S600. They understand the US market is keen on having the cutting technology and launching an HSPA+ unlocked device will date rather quickly.

EDIT

I read the talk about AT&T holding things up which is great NEWS! What this tells me is the 6606 (interesting the triple 6 is used for the good old US of A, but I digress) will be the LTE variant I've been looking for.

Now I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it will be sold at Sony without AT&T branding unlocked. I don't want to go through the purchase, root, unlock to use a branded AT&T phone on T-Mobile and when I travel.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Don't know how many times I have said it.... AT&T isn't picking this phone up.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] StacksTM:
I've read a ;), a nope a "I can't comment" post but no where do I see anything specific from you refuting AT&T association within this thread.

You've done a great job of posting comments providing your opinion without supplying any factual evidence to your points. Please explain or elaborate.

If you're right, but I have no reason to believe you, a unlocked LTE 4, 17 band phone over here lacking carrier branding is music to my eyes.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
It's not just this one thread. I have shared what I could through numerous threads. Not only for the Z but for many other Xperia devices. Don't believe me then I don't care.

I'll keep my "opinions" to myself from now on. Those that have seen my info is reliable can PM me if they have a question.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] robertopod1968:
I appreciate the info you can provide Spectre. Please share your "opinions" every chance you get!
[Xperia Z General] Funk2641:
Dude, don't do this please. They majority of us believe you - the rest? Let them be disappointed in the end. We need your help!
[Xperia Z General] dachao:
Spectre51 is the most reliable on any forum. All the other so called insider make stuff up all the time.
[Xperia Z General] StacksTM:
It's a cell phone my friend and not that big a deal. I'm not going to be scouring online forums to ensure a post going against my point has been vetting and validated.

You maybe an xperia marketing guy or even an exec. Who knows? I can't spend time speculating and can only ask you to elaborate. If you can't/won't, you're just providing more noise to this elaborate maze we call the interwebs.

All I'm reading from this post is:

I can't comment

I can't talk about it

;)

Nope etc.

Doesn't really add any value to what I'm looking for. There are several posts and links all over the place that site the specs of the C6606 including a band 4 and 17 for LTE. If there's anyone that can validate this speculation with a white paper, lets chat.
[Xperia Z General] schaggo:
AW: Leak **** leak xperia z

You're absolutely right, so I'll return the ball to you:
[Xperia Z General] mzr7:
Regarding the opening post from what I got to know all devices that use a s4 pro will be Shifted to s600. It's a qualcom thing makes sense manufacturing wise. The clock speed will be limited to 1.5 ghz. So no one will market the bump! It'll be maybe a small increase or no increase in power. The s600 is basically a reassembled s4 pro with higher achievable clock speeds. 1900 instead of 1700 of the s4 pro

So it's not limited to Sony.
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Thought that the c6606 would be announced at the same time as the US ZL. Now I'm worried. :(
[Xperia Z General] dkgip:
The official Sony Mobile/US page still has "Coming Soon" for the Z--wouldn't worry.

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[Xperia Z General] :
that won't be xperia Z.

that will be new sony xperia smartphone with 4.8 display and not water/dust resistance and etc. as lots of source like gsmarena & etc sent it.

for ur source just; h3h
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
It's coming just be patient.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] keith777:
coming w/ band 4 and 17 LTE?

I'm not so sure..... Sony's US site for the Xperia Z says LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20)*, while the US site for the Xperia ZL says LTE (Bands 1, 3, 5, 7, 8, 20, or bands 1, 2, 4, 5, 17)*

So is only the Xperia ZL getting AT&T LTE bands but not the Z??
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
That is what the C6603 gets. They haven't released anything about the C6606 which should be the same network wise as the C6506 which works fine on AT&T LTE.
[Xperia Z General] :
Thanks for all the useful info. This will be the hardest part; waiting.

So tempting to grab an HSPA+ phone but I know in the long run since this is such a wonderful device that waiting for the LTE model will be worth it.

EDIT: C6506 supports band 4 LTE which is TMobile compatible correct? Meaning the C6606 should also work on both AT&T and TMobile correct?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Yes

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Z General] masnex:
Any idea how soon it will be released? has been waiting for so long
[Xperia Z General] charliechocolate:
Probably get a no comment :P

Waiting myself here, hoping for the end of April. I went into a Sony store in Canada this week and checked out the ZL. It's pretty sweet but I do notice the screen angle issue. If I can get the Z subsidize on contract with Rogers I may still be game. Really like the idea of waterproof.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I can't comment on the US release sorry.

Sent from my Xperia Tablet Z
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
Saw your post on esato about ATT not getting anything till 2014. Do you know if unlocked version is now decided or just T-m (or both)?
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Nothing new yet.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] MultiLockOn:
Don't listen to anything this guy posts. He's full of bs, look at all his threads. He also said the Verizon s4 is exclusively receiving the Snapdragon 800 soc, and that it can play Xbox 360 games because it's a quad core phone whereas the Xbox is only a 3 core cpu lol. Read through all of op's threads if you need a good laugh
[Xperia Z General] doclloyd:
Android Police and others seem to be hinting at a T-Mobile release of the C6606 with LTE (that's also compatible with AT&T).

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/01/sony-xperia-z-is-all-but-confirmed-for-t-mobile-thanks-to-fcc-filing-user-manual-included-as-well/
[Xperia Z General] Imdking:
By the time it goes on sale, it'll be too late! Everyone will have an HTC One, or the GS4, or eyeing the iPhone 5S.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
It's more than a hint.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] dragon632:
It's impossible. The reason is, every phone has its specification, and it must be finalized at the begining of production.
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
So, wait for this or go with the ZL C6506...?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Neither, wait for togari or honami
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
C6602 being released in the US this weekend (sunday) $629. C6606 will be exclusive carrier device. Price drop also on unlocked C6506.
[Xperia Z General] Imdking:
Getting the C6603 imported this week. Then when the C6606 becomes unlockable, sell the C6603 to friends in Botswana, and get me the C6606. :cool:
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
Can't wait that long. I have to make the move fro Sprint to T-mobile by the end of June.

Same price as the SGS4 :rolleyes:

Newegg has the unlocked ZL C6506 for $560 until the 8th. I can give it a few days and see what happens with the prices.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Lol then I hope c6606 will be out by then, if not just sign for a iPhone 5 and sell it back out. Keep the money for honami or togari and keep using your current phone.

That's what I do all the time. Lol
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
Lol, if my current phone worked on tmo I would wait.
[Xperia Z General] RoChinu:
Overpowered indeed. Even my Old Galaxy Y which I bought as my first android device to see if I like Android runs most apps till date. Only later games are problematic while Inotia 3, a decent game still runs super smooth.
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
looks ike amazon and newegg have already starting selling the xperia z with a us warranty.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16875212248

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Unlocked...UTF8&qid=1367706052&sr=1-12&keywords=xperia+z
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
That's the c6602 without lte. It's been available for awhile. The one that most US users want is the c6606. It will work on both Tmo and ATT lte networks.
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
From what I read the C6606 is exclusive to Tmobile
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
And a stupid t mobile logo on the back
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
As long as the boot loader can be unlocked.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
I doubt it, any phones sold through carriers with contract or without/ buy out the phone, it comes with locked bootloader.

Not unless some one with high hacking skills can do it like that dude did it for S4.

Again let's hope for the best. :/
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/st...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666561651

Well, the c6602 is on sale in the Sony store. Is Tmobile's new sim unlock policy going to throw a wrench in the plans of the Canadians that were hoping to snag the c6606? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] shane6374:
Pretty much. Must have 40 days of service even if you buy it outright. Thinking I may just go with an unlocked ZL.
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
*insert FFFFUUUUU meme image here*

And I'm assuming there's no way around this?
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
Just wait for rogers to get the same phone, you can wait a month, I know, I believe in you! ;)
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Who's saying Rogers is getting it? I thought it was said that Canada won't see the Z. I know there was earlier confusion with the tablet, but it was clarified.
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2245728
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Should've specified the c6606 model. You can buy the c6603 anywhere no need to wait on rogers to bring it in.
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
rogers will get 6606 and bell will get 6616.
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Can we expect to see this any day now? Or do we still have a long wait ahead of us?
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
My guess - same time or a few weeks after TMB get theirs stateside.
[Xperia Z General] iamswissbanks:
Has there been a delay?
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
Hope not, been waiting for this phone since my contract has been up in late march. Probably gonna get two Z's and switch to a family simple choice plan on t mobile and save about $100 a month. But the crux of this happening is the Z cause i'm not a apple fan and i've had bad experiences with samsung phones in the past.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Not that I know of.
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
If i was a betting man and put money on june for a release date for the Z, would i be ok? lol
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
That's where my money would be. Especially around the 18th

Sent from my Lumia 920
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
if it comes out anywhere near that time, i may have to donate to you good sir. You just made me hate t-mobile a bit less about this matter.
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Sony Xperia Z coming to a U.S. carrier soon says Sony's CEO
[Xperia Z General] soulrebel1:
Are the Specs going to be the same?

Is this exactly the same phone just on a US carrier (subsidized)?

Any rumors on a Google edition?
[Xperia Z General] LitoNi:
Same specs no rumors of Google edition
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Same specs but also full LTE support for T-Mobile/AT&T.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
The 18th seems so far away. I've been waiting for this phone since late march. Just gotta hold out these last couple weeks, lol
[Xperia Z General] iamswissbanks:
so will it be the same radio as in the c6603 and c6602 but with the required bands unlocked for tmobs lte? or a totally diff radio altogether?
[Xperia Z General] ChrisMCP:
Funny how it has ATT bands support, but ATT is not getting it, even though they can sell tons of those phones. Well, screw them, as long as Rogers gets it around the same time as TMB :D
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
Will the google edition support ATT LTE?
[Xperia Z General] Michealtbh:
Nobody knows, it hasn't even been officially announced yet
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
So looks like you actually might see and announcement/release this week. Guess they bumped it up.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
They teased an announcment about a waterproof phone on wednesday with more details on thursday, but have since gone into information blackout on the details and even about the teaser itself. Did they end up calling it off?
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
Sooner it releases the sooner we can find out i guess.
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Still mad about that! I was refreshing that page all day! :mad:
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
Man, I was so excited. I had my debit card in my hand readyo to order it if it was online only for a while. It was a huge letdown :crying:
[Xperia Z General] samven582:
looks like T-mobile nor Sony kept thier promise :(
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
They were supposed to announce it. Guess they decided to push it back till the originally planned day. (18th). I'll see if I can get any info.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z

---------- Post added at 10:42 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 AM ----------

Yep just confirmed...pushed back to original date.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
Any idea why they didnt announce a release date? are they waiting for jelly bean 4.2.2 before they launch?
[Xperia Z General] Purehazard:
About freaking time...

https://explore.t-mobile.com/sony-xperia-z?cm_mmc_o=VqCjCzczywEwllCjCr5wybzUCjC5ywllywkwzlw

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/06/1...or-t-mobile-usa-arriving-in-the-coming-weeks/

Late late late.
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
Thanks i signed up as soon as i saw the announcement. I'm tryna to figure out if they are waiting to launch with JB 4.2.2, cause if so i can maybe get an idea if they'll launch this month or if we may have to wait until early july.
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
I'll see what I can find out.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] AVonn:
Only black and purple, go figure! Sigh, I hope google comes out with the white. :(
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
Don't know about 4.2.2 but July 17 is the magic date.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z
[Xperia Z General] anirudhks:
it should be 4.2.2 coz the leak that doomlord has released is a tmobile 4.2 dump , so i am guessing they will release it 4.2 , that may be an added selling value for the late arrival
[Xperia Z General] Spectre51:
As I said: http://www.engadget.com/2013/06/26/t-mobile-leak-hints-lumia-925-xperia-z-may-launch-on-july-17th/
[Xperia Z General] Platinum_Bleach:
You do have some good contacts. If i never need some info i know who to ask, lol.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhys06567:
About a month ago I installed a clockwork based recovery app from the market. I tried restoring and this failed leaving the phone unbootable.

Since then I have tried flashing MANY other sbf`s using rsd lite but this has made the situation worse. I think that I even flashed one for the defy+

Now all I get is either a blank screen or a M logo when I switch on.

Pressing power & volume down doesn`t work so I can`t access the stock recovery menu

I can access the bootloader using power & volume up so i can flash more sbf`s but I`ve tried most of them but none will boot.

BTW the phone was running cm7.1 before I had all this trouble and the battery has been fully charged (in another defy)

Is there any way I can clear off all the stuff I`ve been installing and start from fresh? or can anyone tell me how to get the phone to boot?

I have searched for a solution in the forums but most of the replies involve clearing the cache which I cant do as I cant get to the recovery menu.

Any helpful comments will be gratefully received

many thanks

Jeff H
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intemptesta:
Your flashs complete with Finish/Pass, or just "please manually power up this phone"?

If it's the later, read this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38187413&postcount=2

Just stick to the most highest Defy+ sbf build, or just use DFP-231 build to be sure.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhys06567:
Thanks for the reply

I flashed the DFP-231 sbf file as you suggested but it wouldn`t boot any further than the M logo.

I did get the "please manually power up this phone" message and followed the procedure from the link you gave

I can`t wipe the as I cannot get to the recovery menu.

Is there any other way to wipe the cache?

JeffH
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intemptesta:
Nah, no other way than stock recovery for stock rom.

Just make sure your flash finished with Finish/pass, that'll make your stock recovery working again.

Wish you a best luck.
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhys06567:
i flashed with this:

DEFYPLUS_U3_4.5.1-134_DFP-231_GR_SIGN_UCADEFYEMARAB1B80AA004.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNGIBRRTCEE_P022_A022_Service1FF.sbf

but still no boot

Is this the correct rom?

cheers

JeffH
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jhys06567:
I wonder if the following might give someone a clue about whats wrong with my defy

If I flash gingerbread rom either defy or defy+ then rsd completes with PASS, and phone will boot as far as the M logo and I can access the menu with power+volume UP

If I flash below gingerbread then rsd doesnt complete but gives `manually reboot` message. If I then power off and plug in again then rsd completes with PASS but when I reboot there is NO M logo and no menu on power and volume up.

I`m keeping my fingers crossed that I will be able to revive my phone.

JeffH