[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://beyond3d.com/showthread.php?t=61025

So I've read this entire thread and it talks about gpu's from 2011 when the rumoured krait dual-core and quad a9 were going to be announced all the way till the rumoured adreno 420. I've learn't a couple of things, when we go to 20nm gpu speed on phones and tablets will be between 500-550mhz. You may say this will cause thermal issues but when socs were at 45nm gpu's were clocked at 200-300mhz meaning everytime the die size gets smaller not only does the cpu clock get higher but also the gpu does. So the rumoured tegra 5 at 500mhz is inline with it being 20nm because it wouldn't be 500mhz if it was 28nm and it also wouldn't be 20nm at 450mhz so the fact that we have speculations of 500mhz if the frequency is confirmed practically the the die size also being between 20-22nm is confirmed, avoiding the tegra 3 mistake of releasing last gen die size when everyone was moving to 28/32nm.

So tegra 5 will be between 550-500mhz at 20-22nm this is most definitely. Secondly, adreno 420 leaked road map has lots of flaws and is obsolete, this is because the rumoured clock speed is 2.3ghz and the die size is 28nm which isn't a true successor of the s800. Chances are when the next gen snapdragon lands it will have 20nm and a higher clock ARM were already bragging about how they were able to reach 3ghz with the new die size so we would realistically be seeing the future snapdragon with 20nm, 2.7ghz+ cpu, gpu at 500mhz, better memory bandwidth about 15gb/s+ and more ram most likely 3-4gb. Fill rate will also increase as ui on 2600x1600 displays must be really laggy and we should expect and gpu jump at more than 150 gflops which may seem high compared to snapdragon 800 but tegra 5 and rogue 6 GD6000 will be between 230-320gflops.

If tegra 5 is released on time next year it will be very competitive to Qualcomm's offering as the cpu on Qualcomm will be a obvious win but the gpu title is yet to be claimed between Qualcomm, tegra 5 and img tech only time will tell who has the best gpu, overall Qualcomm will still soup up the best Soc, the real gpu fight is between two companies that is img tech and nvidia, although Qualcomm make good gpu's it's these two companies that have been competing neck to neck with the iPad gpu always taking advantage of die size, while tegra has been doing some special optimizations and has excellent api support. I will be suprised as hell if Qualcomm come up with a better gpu then both companies.

Img tech victory relies on many factors but one being release date they have been teasing the rogue 6 for more then a year and yet it hasn't been released, if the iPad does not equip itself with rogue 6 gpu GD6000 which is the only competitive rogue 6 then they will release it next year fall which by then Qualcomm will have a revised edition of their 2014 flagship just like the snapdragon 800 which will give the A7X a proper spanking. Even if the iPad 5 does come with rogue GD6000 due to it being on 28nm next years socs will easily defeat it due to die shrink advantage.

The fight is actually between tegra 5 and Qualcomm and if tegra make a slight delay on soc Qualcomm will win. Img tech is struggling as if the iPad 5 does come with their latest offering it will be on 28nm and if they instead release it in q3 2014 it will be too late, if apple were clever they would release the iPad 5 in early 2014 so it can be fabed with 22nm giving a higher performance boost and also not having thermal issues like the iPad 3. To me Qualcomm will have a clear win next year as their early schedule and update in hardware in Q3 2014 will give them a boost expect most phones and tablets if not all to be dominated with Qualcomm including wp8.1 and rt.