yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Since GSF is not an "app", but a component without UI. System component without UI cannot be easily woken explicitly once greenified, that's why they are not in the list.

As you want it, I will let it go in the next version (hidden by default like Google Play services). But be prepared for any bad consequence, you may not be able to restore it to normal with a simple launch like regular apps.

BTW, I never made any decision under the pressure from Google.
[Greenify] Nic2215:
HI, I have read a lot but have an mixed opinion regarding hibernating Google service framework like affecting third party apps like what's app, those messaging apps is it true? Thanks
[Greenify] iede:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] just bought your apps not so long ago and it's worth the penny. Been running flawlessly so far :)

Just one suggestion, can you make the UI faster? Because I think it's a little bit laggy when "show more apps" clicked. Thanks!
[Greenify] matrixzone:
Today's update fc on trying to hibernate system apps..
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Should have been fixed in the build 6. Sorry for that.
[Greenify] cska133:
When add an app to greenify can I degreenify it again and how? Where can i see the list of the greenified apps?
[Greenify] WSZR:
I hibernate GSF and now I have no notifications GCM. How to restore it? I did not backup ...
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I'll look into that, thanks for your report.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Try degreenifying it, and reboot your device.
[Greenify] WSZR:
This is the first thing I did, even a few restarts, attempt to call GSF, but it did not help. Fortunately, I had a copy of Titanium Backup and restored the. I just do not see Google Play my smartphone.

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Push AirDroid or Pushbullet not work for me now, only Hangouts and Facebook. I would not recommend anyone to hibernate GSF.
[Greenify] Cyclu:
Thanks! I have more detail: the application which demand constant su access:

(am force-stop com.bartat.android.elixir.widget) is Elixir Widget I have also Elixir2 both hibernated.

I have remarked that su access over night every hour more or less and when device deep sleep.
[Greenify] rignfool:
[/COLOR]Push AirDroid or Pushbullet not work for me now, only Hangouts and Facebook. I would not recommend anyone to hibernate GSF.[/QUOTE]

Hence why the Dev did what he did...

But no one listens to the expert...

WHY?!?
[Greenify] jacknicholson:
You may want oasisfeng to weigh in further, but this seems to be the usual caveat that comes from hibernating certain widgets, especially those set to update themselves regularly (which seems to be your case, as Elixir2 appears to constantly monitor system state changes). Even my static widgets will get woken on occasion, as my launcher's prone to redrawing the homescreen now and then (which, in turn, reloads the widgets). Unless there's a way to keep stubborn apps (Facebook) or widgets asleep, I'd say it's better to just leave 'em unhibernated, else you risk Greenify playing cat-and-mouse all day.
[Greenify] wwjoshdew:
It's funny you say that... In ALL of my CM11 videos (for the S3, S4, HTC One, Note 2, and Note 3), I recommended people go to developer options and DISABLE root. Then install SuperSU via custom recovery and when their phone starts up, open SuperSU and check the "Ignore CM superuser settings" option.

Then you get the comments from people saying, "root is working fine for me without SuperSU." I tell people to, because [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] recommends SuperSU, and the Titanium Backup app throws up an error and recommends installing SuperSU as well. Some people just don't like Change I guess.

[MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] is pretty freaking awesome!
[Greenify] tangcla:
perhaps may I suggest you could put the latest update on the top of the list in the Play Store, so users could glance what's changed straight away?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
That's probably caused by periodic update scheduled by Elixir2 widget, which is being explicitly triggered by your launcher as long as you have the widget placed on your desktop.

Just relax since hourly hibernation won't do noticeable affect to your battery life.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
It's only a small amount of SuperUser users (less than 10% I believe) were actually experiencing hibernation issue caused by SuperUser. So if no issues, you don't need to switch to SuperSU.

The problem is that most of them were unaware of the issue of SuperUser, but just blame your app and leave a one-star rating. That's why I have to state that explicitly.

PS, I haven't see any issue report from the new SuperUser by ClockworkMod, the SuperUser I mean is the old one by ChainsDD.
[Greenify] Bogeyof:
restore a cut off wake up path?

Today, I tried to cut off wake up path from 2 Samsung Apps, SNote and SamsungCloudData. Auto hibernation for this apps isnt working, showing with hint "spürbar" (sorry, dont know english translating). Shows to be woken by an weather app, so I cut wake up path off SNote. Weather widget wasnt working anymore, so I wanted to restore wake up path. But there is no way? U can mark the app, but no symbol is shown, after pressing menu button no option to restore wake up path is shown. Long press also nothing happens. How to restore a cut off wake up path?

I remember former versions of Greenify, there was a hint if an app has a cut off wake up path. Now there is no message / hint, even I did 2 cut offs, nothing shown? May be there is something messed up?

Edit: With apps like youtube (woken by tapatalk) cut off and reattach works fine. Cutted pathes are shown by greenify. Seems to be a problem with some apps, which cant be greenified in a normal way? Or some wake up pathes are not possible to cut off / restore?
[Greenify] Haldi4803:
So i'm having problems with What's app and getting messages! I know it worked on the older version (2.1) but now i greenified Google play services and google service framework. This did probably destroy GCM, as mentioned a few times here in this thread.

The normal Push service for my two active Exchange E-mail account still works fine!

P.S [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] : It would be awesome if apps like WhatsApp would show the GCM cloud symbol even when they are greenified. I sometimes forget which app does and which does not, so i have to degreenify them, check, and re-greenify them ^^
[Greenify] Haldi4803:
P.p.s how do i read that graph?
[Greenify] cheese458:
Anyone greenified sim tool kit and phone? I'm thinking greenifying phone may stop calls etc... But anyone know about sim tool kit?
[Greenify] jaibar:
Why greenify them? Are they causing a problem that you want to hibernate phone??
[Greenify] cheese458:
well it says there are always running in the background so it could improve battery life
[Greenify] rignfool:
Seriously?

It is a 'phone'...
[Greenify] mielletseed:
I think, you are wrong. Of course the phone app is always LOADED so there is no time lag when you are receiving a call but that is not meaning that this app really is RUNNING and consuming battery. Probably it will consume more battery to greenify that app and the system has to reload it every time it is needed.

Check with a tool like better battery stats which apps are causing wake locks - that are the apps, which are consuming your battery. The phone app should not belong to them ...

best regards
[Greenify] apsheheer:
I uninstalled it.nothing happened to me...

By the way I use data on Sim rather than voice and text

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I spoke abt sim tool kit
[Greenify] Haldi4803:
So what i did in this Screenshot.... all apps were hibernated before!

Then i opened Whats app, and recieved two messages (got them earlier but greenified WhatsApp and Google play services don't wake to recieve!)

So WHat's app needs Google play Services for GCM! I get that!

but WHY does Whatsapp wake Tapatalk and WHY does Tapatalk wakes Facebook ? xD

I think i should have cut them... i'll try next time somone writes me^^

Still... WHY ? ^^
[Greenify] rignfool:
You can sign into tapatalk with your Facebook account...

So it wakes Facebook to check... Even if you sign in another way
[Greenify] Haldi4803:
ohhh thats it!

Like all those ingame donations buttons that wake up google play store!

Thx.
[Greenify] rainworm:
Is there a way to wake up sleeping apps by an external trigger?

I am using Llama (something like Tasker) to automate nearly everything. If there would be a possibility to send an app intent to Greenify which wakes up a given sleeping process - that would be really really great.

[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]: you avoid to apply something like a "night mode". Wouldn't it be a choice to let apps like Tasker or Llama make the decisions and Greenify just carries this out (triggered by an app intent or something else)?
[Greenify] themadproducer:
I have yet, to see a method, to wake up a hibernated app, without launching it directly, or through Llama/Tasker. In Windows os, you can start an app minimized. I assume your talking about unhibernating an app but not opening it in the foreground. I know many services of apps get started in the background during boot. So you might think there would be a way.
[Greenify] rainworm:
Exactly. I can start the app directly, but then it's in the foreground. But I am just interested in it's background tasks (while I am at the phone).

My idea is: send an android intent (that's something like a message / event in Windows) to Greenify with an action to wake up an app. This way I could use Llama /Tasker to do incredible things :)

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[Greenify] themadproducer:
I had aTypo.

I was saying that many app services get started in the background "during boot". So, There should be a way to run a similar piece of code.
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
already got exposed installer.. then use boot manager. easily control apps during boot. download from expose modules
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Thanks. I have that. Great module.

But that's not actually what I was referring to.
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
haha... ok. then, what?? can u sreenshot the issues for easy understanding..

i think u used to many widgets that also cause wakelock too.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Hey bro...no issues here.;)

I think you walked into a conversation with me and another user regarding "is there a way" to wake a hibernated app in the background, and thought I was asking for help. It's not even an issue. It's just us talking about possibilities.

[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]

If an app that is hibernated with Greenify, (eg Play Store) can be woken up by other apps (eg a game) and Greenify can track the WAKEUP Path, and we can cut OFF this path.....

...Then would it be possible for Greenify to wake up an app in a similar fashion? This would be useful especially with Tasker integration.

Just an idea.
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
yeah.. that apps issues. not greenify. some apps got this issues. i totally hate it. synced without rationale reasons. that why i didnt use any gapps. ?..
[Greenify] jagman96:
How can I find out why I have so many wakelocks when both MailDroid and Android Pro Widgets are Greenifield and I have all experimental features enabled except for the top one?

BTW I only have two widgets running. One is Timeline (for Twitter and Facebook) but both are set to sync once daily. I deleted Facebook and Twitter apps since they typically use a lot of background data and are not controlled well by Greenify. The other widget is Calendar set also sync once daily.

Sent from my LG G2 android phone
[Greenify] bad355camaro:
I did a search and didn't see anything. I tried out greenify and while on a phone call, the screen will automatically go off ( like it should) and then in 10-15 sec, it will light up for 3sec and shut back off again. It will cycle on and off the entire call. I also checked to see if I accidentally had 'phone' greenified, I did not. Is there another app that will cause similarl issues? I cleared data on greenify to clear all apps that I had greenified and this issue stopped. Any help is greatly appreciated.
[Greenify] Cyclu:
Yes, you are right both, I have unhibernated the widget no more constant su access and partial wakelock

I didn't know that an hibernated application, even a widget, can Greenify have su access.

With earlier version I didn't notice these things only since ver.2.0 of Greenify I remarked

that since BetterBatteryStats report greater partial wakelock (in the top of list) for Greenify.

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I have the same problem with Elixir Widget since version 2.0 of Greenify I see many wakelock like you.
[Greenify] jeff.liu:
Facebook will be restarted in a short time even stopped by greenify. Of course, it will load large data during restarted. Is it more power saved by not to greenify it?

I never know why facebook need to restart even I set the sync to never. Quite a bad design and consume power and memory.
[Greenify] sonwon:
Delete FB problem solved.
[Greenify] jeff.liu:
In fact, it improved a lot in current version. Previous version even constant load CPU in background and never sleep properly.

The current version is fine and I just open it when I need it. It never really support push and no reason for background run. Just wonder anyone has exp to greenify it.
[Greenify] happyBOY78:
I don´t know, if it is only my problem... 2-3 beta updates back, the app lost translation to my language.

I have Greenify only in english.
[Greenify] jagman96:
I de-Greenified Android Pro Widgets a few hours ago and no wakelocks since :).

Sent from my vs980 LG G2 android phone
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
everyone already know that any widgets can cause wakelocks, so minimized it... or dont use it anymore if u really want to saving your battery power. just use app bar.. seem pretty smart ideas.

~ just sharing something good
[Greenify] wwjoshdew:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] I made a video of how Greenify works without Root!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjLKdpBpOgk
[Greenify] themadproducer:
@wwjoshdew

Killer video. Super well done.

I am a very experienced Greenify power user...but I never used it without root, so even I did not know the ins and outs of non root usage. This video makes it crystal clear. @oasisfeng ... this should be on your OP along with the other one. :good::good::good:
[Greenify] EarlZ:
The official fb app despite greenified still has 500+ wakelocks when the phone is idle, sync off, no mobile data and app level notifications is off. Why is that??
[Greenify] mdamaged:
Because it's Facebook. The only solution is to stop using it and use their site instead.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
[MENTION=2677491]EarlZ[/MENTION]

Your best bet, if you still want to use FB app, is to use App Quarantine just for the resilient Facebook app. You can have a widget that when toggled, switches from freezing FB, to defrost and launch G FB.
[Greenify] EarlZ:
Just uninstalled the app and created a chrome shortcut on my home screen.
[Greenify] pitastrudl:
i have tasker, greenifing my apps 5 mins after screenoff, so i get barely any facebook wakelocks. thanks to oasisfeng greenify supports tasker, tx
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
How do you do that with tasker?? Please explain your steps.

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[Greenify] pitastrudl:
So, the condition is that screen must be OFF

and the actionf follow, when screen is turned off:

1. Task:Wait 5 minutes(IF %SCREEN~OFF)

2. HIBERNATE NOW (ALL GREENIFIED APPS)(IF %SCREEN~OFF)

Why is there an if condition on every action? That is incase the screen goes on in those 5 minutes, it doesnt greenify the apps, so it doesnt disturb me when i open facebook or tapatalk etc.
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
How can I make the 5 minutes wait??

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[Greenify] pitastrudl:
When you make the profile with the condition, press the "+" sign, go to "task" and press "wait", then make it 5 minutes, press back. there you have it :)
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
Where is that 'wait'. Sorry I'm a total tasker noob.

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[Greenify] pitastrudl:
[YOUTUBE]bNxP5inKK8U[/YOUTUBE]

here is a screen recording, coz i can :D finnaly flashed a kitkat rom yesterday, for the first time :P
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
PERFECT! Thank you!

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[Greenify] jeff.liu:
It is not a matter to greenify facebook but it will be able to restart again.... just wonder this will be cat chasing mouse and cause more battery eventually.
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
Tasker sucks. I have a profile when screen is off to hibernate all greenified apps but it does nothing!

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[Greenify] j1gga84:
Does tasker need much battery? If no I also would give it a try because for me it takes too long until Greenify hibernates the apps (don't know the excactly duration).

Regards
[Greenify] pitastrudl:
for me, tasker doesnt drain, it all depends on what your profiles are monitoring. i have 7 enabled profiles and have almost no drain.

[MENTION=301919]curt[/MENTION] how do you know? also i think you forgot to add the wait task :p

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[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
I had it with WAIT but it didn't work. So I tried without WAIT. Didn't work. So I deleted the %SCREEN ~ OFF. Works now but why?

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[Greenify] Bob823:
You could always try to cut off the wake-up paths in Greenify and see if that does the trick.
[Greenify] jeff.liu:
How? I just add facebook in the list. Is it a experimental feature in paid version?
[Greenify] scott_doyland:
Its paid for in stable play store version. When an app starts it says in greenify what woke it up and you can chose to 'cut off' the wakeup by choosing app in greenify and selecting cutoff option. I have FB and almost no wakeups from it, eg 2 in 18hrs and that is because I used FB. The more you use it I guess the more chance it grabs to wakeup just after you stop using it and before greenify hibernates it again.

I have a FB syncs etc switched off as well.

Before greenify I was getting hundreds of FB wakeups.

Only path I cutoff by the way was an app starting FB as it used FB to allow me to sign into the app. Even before the cutoff my FB wakeups were almost nonexistent once greenified.

You may find you have lots of apps that start FB though hence it keeps waking , its worth getting greenify paid version in my opinion.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
[MENTION=3117242]iamnotkurtcobain[/MENTION]

Try to change "OFF" to. "Off". Case sensitive.

Also, to verify that it will work, first change it to "On". And when you backout and look at the task action in the list, you should see a little GREEN vertical rectangular indicator which implies that the variable state of %SCREEN is "On".

Another thing you could do is to create a way to auto cancel the 5min countdown if the screen turns back on midway through the count. Thus, it would start over next time the screen turns on. It's tricky. Let me know if you need help.
[Greenify] TimmyTimz:
Awesome app
[Greenify] pitastrudl:
Nice idea about the auto cancel. Though im not sure how it works for me and not for him.
[Greenify] EmeraldTimer:
I have a problem with notifications from donation package , even if I have activated experimental features my notifications won't come till I start application for the first time after a reboot, is there a solution?
[Greenify] jacknicholson:
Try reinstalling your problematic apps. I'll usually have to reinstall Whatsapp and other GCM apps after updating Greenify.
[Greenify] kr3w1337:
Anyone notice that most of the time, auto - greenify doesn't work? For example, the other day I got a Facebook message, I didn't touch it. The bloody thing stayed alive for 7 hours and kept the wakelock. I went from a decent 75% to 36%.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Yup. Every 5th question is about Facebook. ;)

Do a search. Facebook is a bad bad boy. Lots of reports and comments and advice on this topic.

Too bad Greenify can't squash it...properly....YET!

I would love to squash it myself....even though I don't use it.

If you insist to use it, try App Quarantine instead...just for Facebook.
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
this bloody thing happened to me before. im just 'force stop' the app. just open it when i need. since my rom got auto ' force stop' by kill any apps from softkey.
[Greenify] sordna:
Best solution for facebook related battery drain:

Uninstall the facebook app. Results 100% guaranteed.
[Greenify] pitastrudl:
i dont know why you people have problems with facebook :D, i use the app regularly and have 5 wakelocks in 11 hours

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[Greenify] j1gga84:
Disable Push Messaging of Facebook, greenify it and everything is ok ;)

Regards
[Greenify] kr3w1337:
The problem I have is with the messenger and it doesn't make sense to disable to the push on that.

Specifically what the problem is that when it wakes up, it doesn't let greenify sleep it again until I dismiss the app myself. For now I check and open and dismiss the message for Facebook always to get around this problem.

Hopefully in the future either greenify can get aggressive on Facebook messenger or Facebook messenger can get it's **** together.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
You could try using Tasker.

Set Tasker to Greenify Facebook at Screen Off.

In fact, tell Tasker to Greenify it 3 times in a row if need be.

Sometimes the 2nd or 3rd time will do the trick.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I haven't had any issue with hibernation of Facebook. But since I don't use Facebook Messenger, I didn't know the trouble.

I'll test Facebook Messenger and analyze the result.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Version 2.1 is rolling out to stable channel, with most efforts in improving the manual hibernation experience for non-root working mode.

The promised auto-hibernation for non-root working mode will be delayed, due to some issues found in internal testing. :(

As I understand you guys here are mostly super users with your devices rooted. I owe you some excitement in the recent development.

Please stay tuned this weekend, an important feature you have requested from the early days of Greenify finally found its way into practical implementation. ;)
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
Let me guess the feature!! The hibernate time after screen off can be adjusted?? ?

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[Greenify] asdfasdfvful:
Just wondering, is it possible to add an app list that is ordered based on install date? It would make it easier to greening new apps
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I'm afraid that is not exciting enough. :D
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
That's a good suggestion. I'll consider that int the following version.
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
No? What else??? ?

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@oasisfeng please say the new feature is experimental stuff WITHOUT xposed!!! Please say yes!! I'm on ART and I never go back to Dalvik..

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[Greenify] cheese458:
Ahhhhhhhhhh I want the update
[Greenify] mielletseed:
Don't think so, since the new feature has been "requested from the early days of Greenify" ...
[Greenify] popthosegaskets:
Sorry bro, if you read the previous posts [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] has stated why Xposed framework is required. If you want it you either have to switch back to DEX or wait for the day that Xposed framework supports ART. For now, you can only "suck thumb" and live with it.

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[Greenify] Haldi4803:
Whoa! Custom Time for hybernatiom before Screen off? Now that would be exiting xD
[Greenify] j1gga84:
general custom time for hybernation, maybe per app, would be awesome. I don't want to use a third party app or XPosed module for that :good:

Regards
[Greenify] Gatz:
Great news! I'm one of the few non-ROOTED :D

Will it still work, for instance, using llama to trigger hibernation after the screen goes off?
[Greenify] mdamaged:
You mean, the built-in hookers and gambling?! Woot!