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[Greenify] jaibar:
I just gave the weather as an example, and as you were told, we have no idea about your weather app-.use betterbatterystats app (or similar) to find what and who is waking your phone frequently and disturbs deep sleep- then you greenify it, or decide you don't need this specific crappy app and uninstall it,.etc.

Keep in mind that hibernated app means widget not working, and I think if you touch the widget, it will not start the greenified app. You may have to start the app directly. not sure about this.

You are correct about the apps using gcm- you can ask a friend to send you message and see if they pass through hibernation.

Not sure why you bother yourself with the "recent apps" thing, and you were already told it has no meaning. it's like the "close doors" button in elevators- it doesn't really do anything, but some people feel better pressing it, or think the elevator well start moving sooner and thus it saves time. it doesn't :) anyway, greenify works as it should be whether it shows in recent apps or not...

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[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I am planning to graduate some stable and user-friendly experimental features in the next major release.
[Greenify] sordna:
What happens to hibernated apps if greenify is uninstalled or disabled?

Thank you for that! By the way, is there any documentation that explains exactly what happens when we "hibernate" an app ?

Does greenify send a signal to suspend greenified apps, or it actually changes files and settings in the system?

I am using the free version (no xposed modules) and wondering what happens if I uninstall greenify while I have apps hibernated.

Will they be left with some of their settings modified, or will they go back to stock behavior on their own?

Similarly, what happens if I back up apps with Titanium while they are hibernated? Will Titanium backup up their modified settings and if I uninstall greenify and then restore such a backed up app, will the app be restored with "hibernated" settings and not have the stock behavior ?
[Greenify] post-mortem:
See here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40475823#post40475823
[Greenify] brunodu91:
Hi,

what is the boost mode in the paid version? And is it worth it to kill applications running in tasker with greenify? Greenify or manages it himself?

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[Greenify] Zephyr!:
What is cloud like symbol at the right side of the name of an application.

Make.Believe

If you're good at something

Never Do It For Free - JOkER
[Greenify] kingvortex:
It means the application uses Google's cloud messaging service. With the donate version, those apps can still receive messages/notifications while hibernated via the GCM service.
[Greenify] Nazo:
So I'm having a problem with the experimental features. First, I turned on my phone and found Facebook running and not hibernating automatically. I'm not 100% sure, but I could have sworn I did not leave it active... On the other hand, I had received several notifications on FB during this time and of course it uses GCM push, so it was started up each time. I'll have to double check that it doesn't do this again, but I do NOT want FB staying active in the background. It's probably one of the absolute worst possible!

Second, when I looked in Greenify to see what woke FB, it wouldn't tell me. It turns out all my experimental settings were reverted back to the default which includes having the tracking turned off. (BTW, I presume tracking is disabled by default due to using more resources, so long term should be off after diagnosis, right?) I reenabled them and tracking is definitely working again, but it could be a problem if it just forgets its own settings...

Third, the "GCM push for greenified apps" option is enabled by default and will not disable. No matter how many times I try to tap, how carefully I tap (trying to get just the checkbox itself, not the whole text box) or etc, it simply acts like it's not interactable with no indication whatsoever that anything has even happened when I try to tap it. At this point, I can't think of a single thing I want waking up and then closing again for GCM push (in fact, isn't this supposed to be worse? As I understand it, part of the reason apps, by default, remain running in the background is because starting and stopping frequently is supposed to be WORSE on the battery and system resources...) Certainly not Facebook! I'd rather just disable this and leave it off since it has no value to me, but there seems to be no way to do it... I understand that for a lot of people it could be a really good thing (and I can see why it's on by default as people who don't better understand what they are doing might be better off by far with it on) but I'm not greenifying anything really vital like my SMS app and stuff like FB I have no need to wakeup automatically as I'll just manually check when I feel like it.

EDIT: Actually, to the dev, if you should ever see this, I'd like to recommend that what we TRULY need is the ability to enable/disable GCM push being accepted on a per-app basis. For instance, if you hibernate something like Skype because you almost never actually use it, GCM push support for it would actually be pretty cool, but on the other hand, Facebook abuses GCM push and deserves to have it disabled.

Any clue what I might be missing?
[Greenify] jaibar:
You're missing one thing- using search and reading last couple of pages in this thread..

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[Greenify] Nazo:
Actually, I tried that first. This is a LONG thread however. Perhaps you can suggest better search terms? I will say that it wasn't in the last few pages however.

Or, you know, you could just save us both time and say whatever it is you already know.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
This is asked fairly regularly, so therefore a search for GCM will bring up several posts pointing to this post by oasisfeng -

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=43147710

:)
[Greenify] Nazo:
Like I said, I searched first. Anyway, at least you pointed me to the right page, though it still took a lot of searching even there to find it. So basically all anyone had to say was "it's not switchable yet" instead of all of this. But, eh, whatever.

What about the other two issues?

EDIT: Just realized that 1 could have been caused by 2, so perhaps this is actually only one issue.
[Greenify] rysup:
Can't you just turn off all your notifications in the fb app? It should stop sending you gcm push messages then no?

I don't think there is any problem with the settings either, mine have been enabled without change for as long as I can remember.
[Greenify] Nazo:
I may have to, but what I like to do is leave it open sometimes when I'm doing things like reading. My phone is, of course, plugged in at these times, so it's not going to matter battery-wise on these occasions. I have it set to not make any sound or vibration, just blink the LED, so between chapters or that sort of thing, if I'm curious I just glance over to see if it's blinking. Also, sometimes while I'm in the middle of a game for example I might leave it like that so one of my friends who sometimes will join me in certain games can contact me that way without wasting any system resources on the computer (for one thing, I've built a PC that's more minimal with a weak CPU among other things, so I don't want something like Steam wasting precious resources, plus said friend doesn't normally use Steam either anyway.) I kind of like being able to do that, but if I completely disable notifications then I won't be able to anymore. However, FB is one of those apps that are bad about abusing anything it is allowed to do, so I may have to consider doing this anyway.

How odd. I'll have to see if I can reproduce that and what happened along the way I guess.
[Greenify] Fz.hary:
i'm buy this application but still didn't understand how to activated the "GCM" service. is there any flashable zip?

i'm using Nexus 4 with stock rom android 4.3

thanks before.
[Greenify] Nazo:
Lol, didn't see what I was talking about before? Not only is it available, it's an option you can't actually turn off. To activate it... do nothing except enable the experimental features in the first place and that's pretty well it. Even if it becomes switchable in the future it will probably be on by default I'm guessing (since it's a smoother, more generic transition.)

Why? The installer does all the work for you.
[Greenify] signupstuffid:
This doesn't work on my tablet.

Can't get it to get past intro screen on my Rooted HTC Flyer on HoneyComb 3.2. I'm running the ROM listed in my signature.

Thanks for saving my other phone's batteries. If you can get this bug fixed I'll strongly consider donating.
[Greenify] samman:
Already on 1.92 and installed everything from scratch. Still doesn't work. May somebody using Nexus 4 stock ROM 4.3 help to verify?
[Greenify] bsoplinger:
Version 1.8, the previous stable release, works fine on my HTC Evo View 4G which is just the Flyer with a radio for Sprint's 3G/4G service. The new experimental features won't work because they need the Xposed framework. I haven't updated to the latest release yet. I'll probably update later today or tomorrow and I'll post results and ROM info then.

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[Greenify] dev0lver:
if i greenify facebook on my phone, will i get the notifications from it when my phone is locked, or only when it's awake ??
[Greenify] KingKuno:
Hi,

I use Greenify v1.92 and Donation Version and I have install it in Xposed. Then I greenifying Playstore, a system app. I play some games and then turn off the display. Later I wanted to write a message and my phone restart. Without using Donation Version in Xposed I have no reboots. Any ideas ?
[Greenify] eliashadow:
So,

For my opinion free version is more usefull than paid one...I have the paid version but after 2 days of use I return back to free one. ..

Im using greenify app months now and is one of my "must have" apps but I think the free version is what greenify make it popular. ...

First of all I didn't notice any improvement in battery life after greenify many system apps.I have the same results like free version which I have greenify all my user apps plus Google play and maps.

Second, I think the GCM push notifications in paid version is very annoying for some users like me. For example I'm using whats app and I have a group with some friends. All the time my friends (not all together) are online and talk each other. For that reason, in paid version with GCM push notifications, I have all day/night whats app awake and the notifications on! So it's not so usefull...

I don't blame cause I paid it cause I wanted to support the dev for this great app, but I said my personal opinion.

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[Greenify] Eduardo C.:
An amazing app! :good::good::good:

...but i think it's incompatible with Sony Xperia phones "extended standby mode".

Any help?
[Greenify] kersh:
Hi

I bought greenify thinking that will save me a lot of time of autostarts but the thing is that it doesn't really work well.

The app doesn't give me the option to hibernate the apps with the "start after boot" for example or dozens of others checks like "locale changed", app installed or much more. With about 500 apps installed greenify only gives me the option to hibernate about 60, so even if could be a great program right now it is super limited and cannot be an alternative to autostarts.
[Greenify] sshafranko:
You can hibernate just about anything on your phone but you need the donate beta version to do so. You also have to hit insist for every system app when it prompts you. You must also join the G+ community for this app and become a tester to receive the newest beta version. Read the discription on Playstore and it will guide you through the process. At least this is how it was when I got it a couple months ago. I dont think it has changed. GL

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[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Both Greenify and donation version never change anything in your system partition, so you can uninstall them at any time without any cost. The hibernated apps will restore to its normal state after you launch it.

For the same reason, Greenify is transparent for backup. The hibernation state never get backed up.
[Greenify] Fz.hary:
If it working well, i will never asked it here.
[Greenify] kersh:
Im not talking about that. I know that I can hibernate any and I have the donated version, what I am talking about is that greenify doesn't tell you what apps are going to auto-start when some check is activated.

From 500 only gives me warnings of about 60 and to know what apps will auto-start for example after boot or after wifi is on/off I need to use autostarts, and if I need to use autostarts to do this, then why not use it for all? Greenify doesn't have more sense then as you need autostarts to know all the apps that you need to hibernate and doing this for 400 or 500 jumping from autostarts to greenify is stupid.

greenify is a good idea but right now it is limited until the app truly gives warnings about every app installed and every check that will boot it.

For example autostarts says to me that app X is gonna start if the "wifi is on" or if "user is present", but greenify doesn't say anything about that app, so if you don't use autostarts the app will boot and start to consume resources without knowing it.
[Greenify] Mad Marty:
It's not the point of Greenify to be able to tell which apps autostart when. Autostarts does this. Greenify != Autostarts. Please read the description in the first post, especially the parts about bloated apps :)
[Greenify] ruvelro:
Hi.

I have one problem with free and donation version.

I installed it on a Nexus 4 and Xperia S. Firts run it works fine, but if I open the app some days later, it don't work fine. If y try to add one APP to the list, all of them appears without an icon. Some seconds later, the smartphone reboot... it was fully freezer.

Any idea? What can I do?

Thanks
[Greenify] kersh:
◆ Unlike "Autostarts", you can benefit almost all its advantages, but never need to deal with the complexity and risk of obscurely named app components, and never lose functionality when app is actively running.

Well, It doesn't have any advantage of autostarts as you don't know what you need to freeze or when apps will boot. I read everything before buying it and I am only saying that greenify is useless if you don't know what apps are gonna auto-boot.

And no, looking constantly a service manager or using autostarts its not a solution. Right now is not very useful compared with autostarts, it is more limited and the donation version more expensive

What is the point to add in greenify a "may slow down the device when" and then don't saying to the user all the checks that will boot every app and show only about a 10% of the installed and his autoboot checks?
[Greenify] android404:
Priceless.
[Greenify] kersey:
Just bought the donation version to show support for this great app.

Have been reading a few comments above and can I check I have the correct view of what Greenify does for me. I have most apps to hibernate so when the phone boots many of them will autostart but once Greenify is activated they all go into hibernation until used by myself.

Is this correct??
[Greenify] android404:
I think you still don't understand it. You can greenify almost every single one of your 500 apps. As soon as they're greenified they don't use any battery except when they need to. If you don't want them too use battery when they need to you have to uninstall them.

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Yes. Or until they get "called" by other apps or activities because they need to be "awake". Hopefully you helped the other guy to understand the meaning of greenify.
[Greenify] kersey:
Thanks for clarifying it works as I thought.
[Greenify] kersh:
And I think that you still don't undestand what I am saying.

If greenify have a zone where the app warns you about the apps and the checks that will launch the app

Why in hell greenify doesn't show ALL apps that have some auto-start checks and only shows about 10% of the installed ones? Why greenify choose to show that list and not the full one? With that limited option I NEED to use autostarts to know what apps will autostart instead of using only greenify, and if I boot autostarts, theres no point to use greenify in most of the cases if I am already using autostarts.

But if greenify shows ALL the checks and apps like autostarts, greenify will be the only app that we will need, and that is not the case right now.

I don't want to greenify or freeze ALL apps, I want to do it in the ones that can autostart without my permission and maybe some others but I don't know with the actual limited information that greenify provides all the apps I should freeze, only a tiny percentage of the installed ones. That's why I am saying that greenify is limited right now and can't be a substitute to autostarts or others like the dev says.
[Greenify] sordna:
What I did is reboot my phone, then used Advanced Task Killer to see what is running. Then I greenified those apps. So you can use any task manager to see what get launched after you reboot, or after you turn wifi on, and greenify those apps. I got it down where Advanced Task killer only shows the very few apps that I am comfortable having running in the background.

I think even Greenify tells you what apps were "recently running" or "running in the background", so you can choose to greenify them.
[Greenify] Ragnar:
sorry wrong thread

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[Greenify] sshafranko:
Iget your point. But once you use autos to find the apps missing in GY your done. Its a one time set up no?

Whan you GY MAPS for example we know what happens. Im curious how would you disable maps in autos? Would maps be able to run if you needed it? Just curious

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[Greenify] kersh:
Yes, you could run everything that you want even if you disable it in autostarts, autostarts only deletes the permission to auto-boot the app without your knowledge when some check is given.

I have disabled maps for example or youtube and the apps will only run if I want, after run it the app will start opened in memory but you can kill it or close it (I do it with GMD control gestures killing the apps instead of going to the home launcher) and then the app will not boot again until you want or until a check is given and that check is permitted by you if you want.

For example in maps with autostarts you can denied the autostart after phone boot but allow if you connect it to a power source.

The thing is that for most people greenify will be the best and even the only one if could show all the apps, but right now it only shows a few and it is not an alternative to other apps.
[Greenify] p107r0:
which are the ones it does not show?
[Greenify] kersh:
Well, If needed I will do a list but having 450 apps installed I can say that greenify only shows about 50?.

To say some

1 tap cleaner with the checks

after startup

storage low

media mounted

app replaced

timezone changed

2do

a++ timetable

adaway

amazon

amazon kindle

atorrent

beyondpod

better battery stats

bodyrock tv

breathpacer

etc etc

I only posted the first ones till "B" that have checks in autostarts that greenify doesn't show
[Greenify] davtse:
hmm.. Very obvious question, but did you click on the "show more" button? Mine shows every app I installed and even system apps (donate version)
[Greenify] bsoplinger:
I understand what the poster is saying about autostarts vs Greenify. I used an autostart manager before I found Greenify. What I did that worked well was...

I removed the autostart manager and installed Greenify. I manually grabbed the few apps I already knew were resource hogs. Then I did nothing more with Greenify for a few days. Then I used the + button to add more apps and found quite a useful list of apps that had run along with why they ran and hibernated the lot (well almost all, some I decided I wanted to let run normally) and my phone now runs great. Much better than when I was using the autostart manager.

My suggestion for that poster is to try what I did and not worry about the myriad of apps that may run under certain conditions that autostarts shows. I'd bet plenty of them are well behaved and when they get triggered by whatever reason they start, decide to do something then don't run anymore and the standard Android memory management system purges them all without a hiccup. The key thing to remember is that if an app is reasonably well done these wakeup events should happen without the user knowing.

For example an app could wake on Internet access changing, decide that it is now on, check against some setting and decide there's nothing to do. Or even decide to send out a "is there an update" request to someplace and most often get "no" back and still do nothing. Then it's done. Android will purge it from memory as soon as it wants that memory for another app. This isn't something that you need to Greenify because it isn't the sort of thing that's "bad" it's just business as usual.

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[Greenify] post-mortem:
My understanding is that Greenify only lists the apps which are (potentially) wasting battery; you don't need to Greenify all your apps. For example, AdAway doesn't need to be Greenified, because you can disable background checking for updates within the app. BetterBatteryStats doesn't make sense to Greenify; if you want to use it, it needs to run in the background, and if you don't want to use it, just freeze it.

Personally, I only have 6 apps in my Greenify list. I did try adding others, but there was no benefit, as they weren't running in the background.
[Greenify] kersh:
Yes, but the show more doesn't have much purpose, I mean, it opens a new "tab" where you can see ALL the apps, but greenify doesn't show you what are the checks that the apps uses to autostart, so you basically can see all of them but you will not have a clue of what ones you should freeze as greenify doesn't provide any kind of information like on the choosen ones under the tab "may slow down" or autostarts app

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That could work with 50 apps, but not when you have over 400, system will go nuts and eat all your resources the time that you have 40 apps that will try to boot for example when you connect it to a power source, or wifi on or over 100 after boot.
[Greenify] p107r0:
So it seems it's not a problem with greenify per se, more a problem with managing 500+ apps.

In this respect, indication of apps triggers could help, but greenify is an app for "hibernating" apps, not an autorun manager, sure if the dev wants to expand its scope then great, but what comes next - permission management requests?

Using 3 simple tools and some patience, you can achieve nirvana and get control even over your 500+ apps...
[Greenify] kersh:
I know that, but I just don't get it why greenify shows some apps in the "may slow" but not others. Why the filter? Based on what judgment? Why don't show in "may slow" tab every that have checks for autostarts and not only some of them and let the user decide with all the data?

oh, for permissions I use xprivacy :eek:
[Greenify] oae08:
I didnt notice any difference between the older version v1.82 i think it was and v1.92 the new version for the free version.
[Greenify] djcyph:
if i greenify stuff like Facebook and gmail...will i not get notifications or emails without opening apps?

thanks!
[Greenify] Ragnar:
No you won't that is correct.

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