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[Greenify] NicholasQ:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Thank You. I am glad that somebody understands what I'm saying. I want to be able to force apps into hibernation instantly when using certain apps. I can use Tasker to do this. If only greenify had this functionality.

The problem with greenify right now is that after leaving an app that you have in hibernation it will be pending which means it wait until the screen is off before forcing the app into hibernation. This is not ideal if I want to quickly switch to a CPU hungry app and force all apps immediately into hibernation without having to turn the screen off and wait.

Greenify already has this type of functionality but you have to open up the app itself and click the pause button for each individual pending app. This is a slow process and I'd rather Tasker have the ability to do the pause function on all apps instantly.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
NicholasQ, when you say you can use TASKER to do this...do you mean to KILL an app (in the traditional sense) ...or to put it into hibernation the way Greenify does....which means it won't just wake itself up when it wants to?
[Greenify] NicholasQ:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

I meant that I wish tasker could tell greenify to force all apps that I typically hibernate, immediately into hibernation. Or if greenify had this functionality within itself already, that would be cool too.

For example, let's say I used a couple of apps that are normally in my hibernation list. Well now that I've used them, they are "pending". Then if I went into some game, tasker or greenify immediately pauses all the "pending" apps.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
I have the same thought as you.

Oasisfeng mentioned a while back ago that Tasker integration is on his list of to do's, but not near top. (not his exact wording)

At the very very least oasisfeng, if at one point at your convenience, you created a "SIMPLE" Tasker plugin for your Greenify app....then you can avoid adding complication to your app, and let those advanced users mess with Tasker to get the extra features....and everyone wins.

Specifically....and again very simply...just a plugin for Tasker that when triggered, forces all "pending" Greenify listed apps...into immediate hibernation.

For Tasker users this could mean:

- batch hibernation on command (instead of having to wait for standby)

- batch hibernation on schedule

- batch hibernation on widget or shortcut press

- batch hibernation triggered by the launch of another app

- batch hibernation triggered by power state/location/or what have you...

For you this means pretty much staying true to your original motivation and goals for this app.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Then don't Greenify apps you want to use on a regular basis :)
[Greenify] Lilith_v2:
Many thanks man :)
[Greenify] NicholasQ:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

This is EXACTLY what I'd love to see. And you made a really awesome point.. Leave the advanced controls with a tasker plugin which does a better job at ensuring only advanced users mess with that type of stuff. Great idea.
[Greenify] blacque:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

I love it so much I have paid for it..waiting for the paid version with maybe extra features.but it is more than awesome for me as basic as it is now :):beer:
[Greenify] wmiki75:
yes, and then i install autostart, btw in play store he says:

" Unlike "Autostarts", you can benefit almost all its advantages, but never need to deal with the complexity and risk of obscurely named app components, and never lose functionality when app is actively running."

so, it is not perfect

maybe, there is exist something is better, for GB ROM, than autostarts?
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Seems like people don't like reading the OP before complaining or asking for the app to do something it isn't designed for :)

I assumed that background functionality would include saving the state an app is in when you exit.

Edit : Also see this from post #3-

[QUOTE ]

It is not adviced to feed all your apps to Greenify, because hibernation also has a price, despite inexpensive. Since hibernated app can no longer run by itself, you may lose some passive functionalities, such as push notifications, content syncing and widget update. Besides that, it is also totally moved away from memory, thus you can no longer benefit from the process cache on the next launch. So you should leave the well-behaved apps out of Greenify. This will truly encourage the device-experience-friendly apps.[/QUOTE]

Hopefully that helps you with how Greenify works :)
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Yes, but I don't think you understand, this is how Greenify works and I would think it cannot be changed.

If you want Facebook cached and ready to switch to instantly, don't Greenify it :D
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

The most important feature of this app, is that the method it uses to kill the app etc. , also keeps the app from respawning. Thus, problem apps are subdued from taxing the cpu/ram when not being used and especially in standby. Maybe the terminology could be debated.
[Greenify] Mad Marty:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

As themadproducer said, it keeps the app from restarting. Force closing or killing would just result in the app starting and using probably more resources. However, I can understand that maybe 'hibernating' has the connotation of 'pausing' in the sense of continuing where you left off. That said, I think the introducing posts of the topic are clear enough on what is meant by hibernating
[Greenify] walda:
AW: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

@devs: Do you kill the greenified apps at screen off and start them at screen on?

... tapat*lked
[Greenify] polobunny:
Have you tried the app?
[Greenify] NicholasQ:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Did you bother to read the first post?
[Greenify] walda:
AW: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Yes and yes.

... tapat*lked
[Greenify] Mamoun14:
Thank you for the phenomenal application, this is exactly what I always needed from android since I started using it, a simple way to stop apps running in the background all the time while keeping its functionality when using it. It's incredible how dramatic the change can be. For the future releases, may I suggest adding a database of user reports of apps that offend normal behavior? so that Greenify can suggest, based on this database, which app to greenify if it's got a certain number of reports?
[Greenify] NicholasQ:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

The dev already has plans for this as laid out in the 3rd post.
[Greenify] chok_thewa:
Excellent.

My phone is smoother than ever.

This app makes old devices better .
[Greenify] thracemerin:
Did you provide logs for any of this? no you haven't, you haven't even given oasisfeng the minimum amount of data he would need to help you (eg logcat, dmesg, etc...) so why are you expecting he will provide you with information on the inner workings of an app that he has worked hard on? I'm not saying you plan to duplicate the app, but others might, who knows who reads this forum. Making demands without providing even the bare minimum amount of debugging information is pretty rude and pretty much against the rules.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well I'm on email aswell. And there I'm gladly sending log cats and so on. I also asked if I should have provided that here, but i got no response.

I never really meant for him to answer this in that detail here on thid forum.

But now that you mention it again, I'm not asking for that much actually. Just whete it stores its files cause it clearly does even after a uninstalation(it seems so at least).

And when/from where the commands to greenify get executed.

It's really not top secret info.
[Greenify] thracemerin:
The files are stored like any other app, if they aren't being deleted during uninstall, that's an issue with your system because they should be removed.

Greenify uses Activity Manager and Package Manager, you should be able to look in the reference for Android and find out how it works pretty easily.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Omg this worked! Thank you. I cant believe it. Awesome. Now the only thing that i don't get is why greenify doesn't do it (manage to do it).

Anyway thank you so much.

EDIT: Well, it seemed to, after 1 minute... FC again... well it seems like the only way out is a wipe. I give up...

I'm still sure of what i've said until now, this is a bug. But ok, nevermind.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
I already posted the page that contains the reference for the usage of both of them in post #6590, but who am I to stand in the way of someone's rant with actual information?

Wow. After all that, it was solved by something that you could have tried yourself and would have saved all this unacceptable behaviour.

facepalm.jpg
[Greenify] mark manning:
This ^^^^^^

Furthermore kevin, you seem awfully entitled. I'll let you in on a little secret.... This is a developers forum and not a place for people to come screw up their phones and demand that others fix problems for them. Most of us have spent hours upon hours upon hours reading and then reading more to figure out the things we have learned all by ourselves. No one held our hands and spoon-fed us anything. I want you to take look and see what XDA is about because it certainly isn't what you think it is....

WHAT XDA IS REALLY ABOUT

I hope you learn something from your interactions today
[Greenify] ayoubij:
What about my questions guys?

Does anyone know any of the answers?
[Greenify] Lim Wee Huat:
[MENTION=5093763]ayoubij[/MENTION]

You're right.This app should come attached together with a 64 pages instruction manual.. lol. Jk.
[Greenify] karanfire123:
Is gcm working now for kitkat? Can anyone confirm? I'm on v2.2 build 3 and gcm push does not seem to be working for me ever since I updated to kitkat. I have Xposed, donation and all the usual stuff. What can I do? Thanks in advance.

PS: I'M RUNNING UNOFFICIAL CM11 ON GALAXY S3 I9300
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Bugs can be reproduced over and over. Write the exact steps to reproduce it, then attach a logcat to show the errors. This is how you help a dev fix bugs.
[Greenify] jacknicholson:
Provided you've tested that you're getting notifications with de-Greenified apps, reinstalling problematic apps usually fixes GCM issues.
[Greenify] Aliante:
...and the sun revolves around the Earth...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Electromagnetic-Spectrum.svg
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
That was my point.... that he is providing me with basic/semi incorrect explanations. (But still calling it waves of light is correct/ just not complete)
[Greenify] kingvortex:
I did not provide a semi correct explanation.You are the one that does not understand how Greenify works, as clearly illustrated by the post of yours that I quoted earlier.

I provided a basic explanation in order that it was easy for you to understand, as it's obvious that you're greatly confused from your earlier posts on the subject.

Edit - Is the fact that you appear to have broken your system in some way by editing system files during a flash of an update not anything to do with this issue?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2643916

Or did you wipe data/factory reset as recommended in that thread already? Serious question. If you did, then disregard this. If not, I think you've known what you have to do for over 2 weeks.....
[Greenify] Adelain:
Hello.From yesterday when i try to open experimental features i have a message "Cannot verify the donation.Please check your network condition and try again later"

Of course I have donate and of course I have a connection :P

Thanks for any help!
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Try reinstalling the donation app and/or the main app.
[Greenify] ayoubij:
He just spend 2 weeks nagging and wasting everyones time because he doesnt want to full wipe and have a clean install and then restore his apps and data which takes about 5 minutes with titanium backup.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
That was the bug that i was talking about earlier (by Samsung) where it removed the permission to write to the external sd.

By flashing a fix everything went to hell. And i didn't get why just reflashing the right permissions file wouldn't solve the problem. Later on i did.

I did a complete reset since that time, so it doens't have anything at all to do with that. You're right asking though. That would really be pathetic of me.

As for the log cat and problem reproduction. I'll post the log cat asap. The only thing is: it's really not that easy to replicate my problem I'd guess.

What happened is that after i greenified my magazine and galaxygear helper; messages app and my magazine only forceclose all the time. I've seen this mistake done before and later it was found out that my magazine mustn't be greenified.

Well no we come to the (as i see it) bug. I opened greenify and it flashed one time and the list went to stock (empty). I thought ok; this might be cause of the beta status, no problem.

I rebooted, but to my surprise greenify still made all my apps(take tap tap 4 for example) that I've greenified unable to boot (which is fine for me but i need my magazine).

So I removed Greenify's data (i also checked data/data) and uninstalled it. I reinstalled it and once I rebooted the phone and launched greenify, to my surprise the list was back.....

Now this happens all the time, i can remove every item there is in the list, but after reinstallation+reboot they come back.

And my apps dont launch automatically whether greenify is installed or not. But just the greenified apps.

And my magazine and messages do always forceclose....

Well that's all.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Looks like it.

Even if he did wipe after the issue in the thread I linked to, then he obviously didn't learn from it and make a nandroid backup before messing with his phone again, which is pretty lax, to say the least.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Man you really start to hate me here...

Forget it I'll just wipe again, amd hope that this won't happen again. Sorry for "wasting" your time.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Be sure to backup your device before running apps with su privileges again. It will save you some time and everyone else a headache. :)

Not even trying to put you down there, either. I, and I assume many others, make regular backups when flashing mods etc to my phone. It's good practice and pretty much a requirement when using anything with su privileges or anything that modifies /system such as the Xposed framework.

Edit - I'll just place the disclaimer from the donation package here -

Space should not be an issue with backups, as I simply keep the last good backup on my sdcard and the rest on my PC.
[Greenify] rignfool:
OK...specifics...

NO... ITS A SYSTEM APP... DO NOT GREENIFY IT...

the people who brought you your phone feel that the apps/apps in question are so important to the inner workings of your phone... That they placed these apps in a protected portion of your phone so that the end user cannot mess with them...

Now...

If you want to read learn and experiment (with a backup) like the rest of us... Go ahead... And by all means... Report back and let us all know...

We more than likely don't own your phone and have no idea what is "safe" and what isn't....
[Greenify] Red_Vex:
Is there any trial to try donate version? I'm interested on greenify some push apps but on gplay i read that for someone works for other not, so b4 spend money for something that may not work i ask if there is a trial version....just 1 day to try.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
So I've got everything working again.

I'm just gonna report now that you mustn't greenify MyMagazine on the note 3. You can however remove the background service manually or simply by using the app called disable service.

MyMagazine if greenified, will mess up other samsung apps like messages and so on.

Thank you for your help anyway. And maybe you're right, maybe this forum isn't the right place to complain about bugs.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
oasisfeng offers refunds up to 3 days after purchasing the donate version.

From the description on the Play store -
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
If you just want to delay the hibernation for some app temporarily, there's a solution currently in my development plan.
[Greenify] peikojose:
Wow thanks for your answer... That is what I want I don't mind greenifying after 3-5 minutes some apps.. But for the apps I use a lot it's a problem ( works better don't greenify them).. For example WhatsApp... I would like to greenify if only after 15-30min screen off (that means I am busy or sleeping)...
[Greenify] ayoubij:
the people who brought me my phone also didn't want me to be ROOTED, neither they preferred seeing me on XDA. So the questin is, what are you doing here?

Also system apps are not always important to the inner working of the phone as you claim. Just compare a CM rom (150mb) to a stock touchwizz rom (950mb) and you will know there is over 800mbs of JUNK.

Stock roms have ALOT of bloatware apps, of which many I have completely uninstalled and did not affect me in any single way. So yes the end user CAN mess with them without affecting vital phone functions.

Now back to the point, did I ask you specifically to answer my question? If you don't have my phone and don't know the answer, then why are you replying??

I asked about 4 specific system apps, didn't ask about every app that comes on the phone:

1. ContextProvider

2. CSC (com.android.phone)

3. Factory Mode

4. com.sec.android.providers.downloads

I want to ask, are these safe to hibernate? They are always running in background, but I don't know what is their function or purpose, so if you don't know their function as well, why are you replying? My definition of safe is that they do not break something vital in the phone? and if you do know what their function is...since they are always running in the ram.
[Greenify] arvinjhann03:
Greenified system apps

Good day sir. I tried to greenify all Running system apps on my galaxy s3. Then suddenly my pc/laptop can't detect my phone, but you can see that in my phone it say's it is connected. So just want to ask if what is the possible cause or rather what is that certain app that can probably be the cause of that problem? hmm.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
My thoughts exactly.
[Greenify] Red_Vex:
Uh i didn't know that.......so i'll give a try.
[Greenify] cangok93:
good job

İt is very good idea i am going to try now
[Greenify] rignfool:
OK...

Go get better battery stats...

Charge your phone to full...

Reboot it...

Let it settle for 5 minutes...

Unplug... Plug... Unplug your charger...

Let your phone sit for 4 hours...

Check partial wakelocks for awake time from the programs in question...

1) context provider... No bloody idea...

2) CSC... I would never dream of greenifying something to do with phone...

3) factory mode... Dunno

4) com.sec.android.... Bad idea to disable anything com.android...

Com.secure.android sounds even worse
[Greenify] mielletseed:
In my opinion you don't buy special extra features with the DONATION pack but you make a donation for the greenify app as whole and you get some functionality for free. So asking to get back a donation seems a little bit strange to me ... :eek:
[Greenify] Red_Vex:
Donation is a fake terms it is better to call it PRO version.

Donation is full app but you decide to pay to help developer.

DONATION MUST NOT ADD EXTRA FEATURE.
[Greenify] Faulker:
Major issues after android 4.3 upgrade

I've been using Greenify for a while on my S3 on Android 4.1.2. Had no issues and loved it. Recommended it to plenty of people.

That all changed with 4.3. Took me a long time to figure out that it was Greenify causing the issues, but there's no doubt now. Looks like some kind of weird bug. Symptoms and testing I did are below.

Symptoms:

- Phone would occasionally reboot without warning.

- Phone would heat up randomly, slowing down. A reboot would usually fix this.

- Phone locked up about once a day. When this happened, the phone thought it was ok...you could hear music continue to play, calls would ring, etc. However, the screen would not turn on. None of the hardware buttons worked. Battery pull was required to fix.

Testing:

- Factory reset and reload all apps. Locks up.

- Testing with no applications other than stock. No issues.

- Rolled back to 4.1.2 (cleanrom 7) and had no issues.

- Wiped and reloaded 4.3 and issue returned. I then swapped back to 4.1.2 (no issues), and back to 4.3 (issues) to test.

- Removed all non-stock applications from the phone on 4.3, no problems. That narrowed it down to a specific app.

- With no apps other than stock on the phone, I began adding apps. After each addition, I let the phone go for a few hours to see if I got a lockup. One hour after adding Greenify, the phone locked up.

- At this point, I was baffled. Greenify had no apps being hibernated. I hadn't configured it at all yet. I assumed that one of the apps I'd installed before Greenify must be to blame. I removed all non-stock apps other than Greenify.

- Phone locked up 4 times in 2 days with just Greenify installed (no apps being hibernated)

- I removed Greenify and had ZERO lockups in four days.

So I don't know why this is happening, but it may hint at a bug of some sort with Greenify and the S3 on Android 4.3. Might not affect all phones or even all S3's...no idea. It's pretty clear-cut that my S3 is unhappy, but only on android 4.3.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Post the logcat that shows it is Greenify, please.
[Greenify] Faulker:
When I have downtime when I can afford to have my phone locking up again (this is my primary work phone, so can't be without it), I'll see if I can get that. For now, all I can provide is the above step-by-step elimination process.
[Greenify] rickriego:
error 403 from play store trying to install the donation package (already paid for) and there obviously isn't anywhere else to get it.. any ideas? tried clearing data for play store.. didn't fix it..
[Greenify] sonwon:
Rather than a bug with Greenify; it is more likely 4.3 breaks Greenify since Google is busy removing options from us users.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Only those with your device can duplicate your steps. Those of us with other devices can read a logcat. If oasisfeng has your device, you might get help, if not, then we will wait until you can post a logcat.

---------- Post added at 11:07 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

I have it on a 4.3.1 S4active with no problems.
[Greenify] sonwon:
Not surprised, maybe just 4.3 is effected and it was fixed in 4.3.1?
[Greenify] Faulker:
Actually, got one more thing to try. I wasn't in the beta program for Greenify. I'll try it with the beta and see if the problem persists.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Not sure, since I went from 4.2.2 to 4.3.1. Devs that can do AOSP roms for the S4 Active are rare. We only have 3-4 real custom rom choices; most are just modified TouchWiz that I don't like.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Excellent idea. Might just do the trick.
[Greenify] sordna:
Have you tried Greenify but without Xposed ? I suspect most of the issues might have to do with Xposed. I have never installed Xposed and never had any problem with Greenify, either with 4.3 or with 4.4.
[Greenify] Faulker:
I've tried it without Xposed and still had the issue.

Just tested with the latest Greenify beta and it locked up within 10 minutes. Went to grab the logcat as requested, but it appears that overwrites when the phone reboots...since the problem is that the phone locks up, I can't grab the log without rebooting. >_< Grabbing an app to log to SD in hopes that I can save that info.
[Greenify] sordna:
An easier thing you can do is run adb logcat on your computer while having the phone connected to it with USB debugging turned on.
[Greenify] hadi_rena:
Maybe you should contact google team instead here since error 403 means denied. Maybe google got something bad :p
[Greenify] aeriobi:
Try looking for data/data/com.oasisfeng.greenify.pro , delete that folder. Then try installing from Play Store again.
[Greenify] rickriego:
thank you.. will try now

edit: THANK YOU.. THAT WORKS PERFECTLY
[Greenify] seafood99:
Could anyone please explain me what the boost function is about exactly? I got the donation pack a week ago.