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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

Thanks DerTeufel,

That's all we can ask.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

I've been around for a long time. People started getting real sketchy on donate threads after the Joelz fiasco. I'm sure others will chime in and second what I'm saying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bradh024:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

Hey man, I applaud your honesty and I believe ya. I dont think there's any harm in this thread. Hell Id donate if I had the money, but with kids and a wife thats in college, thats really hard to do right now. Im just saying, if people donate beforehand, they're donating blindly, unless what they are donating for is specified.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

Just to clarify - I'm not saying anything bad about this thread or the dev in it. Just Joelz and donate threads in general.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] spyderman09:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

The Joelz issue is the single reason I won't donate beforehand. He ruined it for everyone, at least in my eyes. Good luck to this dev though. It actually sounds like a pretty cool idea

Sent from my Note II
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bradh024:
Re: Dual-boot donation thread - Currently &gt; $310.00

Man, I totally understand ya. I was around when joelz said he was selling the rezound, and it just so happened he started building for the gnex. That was a pretty shady move, but all in all, he still has one of the best roms out for the rezound.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
I changed the OP to list "Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?" If enough people can risk donating $5.00 just to get the dual-boot capability then you don't have to worry about the "possibility" that DerTeufel1980 would move onto another device right after. He has been developing for the SamSung Captivate for a LONG time by the way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

He also arguably stole his work on the rezound from a dev who wishes to not be named on this forum who was far more mature about the matter than Joelz was.

He then as mentioned tried to sell the rezound for personal profit instead of donating it to another dev. I got bashed for calling him out on that in the rezound forums. He got a nexus which I dunno what happened there as I never went to that phone. He then got a GSIII and spent months making pure AOSP. I am pretty sure I did more work for the GSIII by figuring out how to deodexe the stock ROMs at the beginning than Joelz has done for the GSIII over all. I didn't get a phone donated to me.

He really is the reason I won't even think twice about not donating for work unseen.

I also would like to point out when I called him out for failing to support the rezound and bringing out releases that were full of bugs he admitted I was right. I also had mods (who I won't name) who admitted he was pulling things over on anyone more than once, but that they couldn't do anything about it other than stop donation threads.

He also always seems to be in school. Says he focuses on school to get good grades yet he is always in summer school every year too.

Shady.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] plznote:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

Maybe a pledge? People donate to an administrator and once the goal is complete and the thing is done the dev can receive his money. He has to pony up the money first and complete the work and then he gets paid. He only has to start once the pledge is 100%
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

While I agree a good idea, most devs won't do this as they don't have the money in the first place to buy a phone, spend the time completing the project and then get the money.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

Thanks

That's a good thought but I don't think it will be an option for him. I already asked if he could pay more up front if I could gather more "after complete" donation promises.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

This thread is not about Joelz...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

This statement means your missing the point. The point is joelz has thousands of people who will vouch for him yet the actions I listed still stand.

Work first donations second.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

Yup I can attest to all nosympathy has said. Was present for that as well. He stole work like his day job. And as he said was always "busy with school" LOL damn fraud. We're right to be skeptical of donate threads is all he's saying
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
He has been ranting about what Joelz did. This thread is about what DerTeufel1980 can do for our device. As I mentioned, if you think the capability would be good then do a little research on what DerTeufel1980 has done for the SamSung Captivate. He has been developing for a LONG time. You can't let one rotten apple spoil it for everyone. This is not asking for a blind donation for someone that has no track record. DerTeufel1980 has a GOOD track record and hasn't burned people. Do you consider all DEVs to be crooks until proven otherwise?.... Before posting all kinds of negative comments, please just research if the person it is for can be trusted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

You are missing the point entirely. If you did outside research on joelz he looks like he produces a lot of ROMs, has a ton of thanks, and is well respected and listed as an XDA developer. This is not the case at all for those of us who have seen what he has done.

Your asking us to do the same with this dev. Yes he may be upfront and honest, but let's just say he gets the device and runs, are you going to pay everyone back the money donated?

Let's say he cannot get the kernel to work as he has already said a few things that lead me to believe he doesn't 100% know what he is doing for this phone, what does he do with the phone he has? Give it to another developer? Sell it and give us our money back? If he gives it to another developer how do we decide who gets it?

*I want to point out my statement of he doesn't know what he is doing for this phone as by his kernel statements with AOSP. The fact he thought AOSP and the MFG UI'd roms should run on the same kernel only because of Motorola devices and not understanding that this is not true AOSP is kind of alarming. I've never seen another mfg brand phone run the same kernel for AOSP and their MFG UI. That is a characteristic of Motorola only as of the boot loaders and they have to run a crappy "port" of AOSP. Yet he says he owns a Samsung phone and didnt know this.

Doesn't mean he won't figure it out but that is kind of a huge part of kernel development and kind of alarming.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
In my case I am always in class.

That said I do work before asking and I finish what I say before disappearing for weeks to months.

So I sympathize. Of course I am not a snotty nosed kid, either. Age does matter here because it reflects a certain amount of maturity.

Work first knowing that people will compensate you. That or build an app for it to flash or something and throw it on the store for a buck or two.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kejar31:
Well, not tryng to get in the middle of this drama or anything but i did want to point out that this kernel for the 9300 http://www.gokhanmoral.com/ uses the same source for both AOSP and TW.. That is a 9300 kernel which is the base for all Note 2 kernels. Fact is both TW and AOSP kerrnels come from the same source.. its the ramdisk and sometimes drivers that differ.. In the case of our phone AOSP uses a different video driver. Although this will most likly change with 4.2 release of TW
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick_rick:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

I know we are all saying show some work before donating first but this is same way myself and the sprint community got sbrissen a Verizon GNote2. Some people were skeptical about him and being able to bring AOSP but look where we are now. Tons of AOSP ROMs all because we were able to get him a device. I can't personally vouch for this dev since I've never used any of his work lol but it doesn't mean he's not good for it. Just my 2 cents.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
I'd have to ask, but I think that he was already nearing having it done for other devices even with this one sight unseen, so that is a little different.

Here, we are talking about something that may not even be possible for the person to do, and may take months before results are seen.

Hence the skittish behavior.

Imnuts as another example only needed a little help, not a full retail donation, and had already been instrumental in releasing the first and only 100% stock signed RTM Odin for this device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] srkoza:
HEY EVERYONE CHECK OUT THIS THREAD ITS ALREADY ON NOTE JUST NEED PORT?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1748588

BOOT UP TO 5 ROMS LOL
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

There is an app that does that. Called boot manager. I just haven't looked to see if or phone is supported.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: Would you risk donating $5.00 for dual-boot capability?

Not yet no. I don't think it works even for the s3 yet
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Updated totals in the OP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Another donation
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Updated totals in the OP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Updated OP that I will loan the remainder.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Donations updated
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imablackhat:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Idk why someone doesnt "lose" they're phone. Pay the 100 dollar deduct and mail him.

Cheapest efficient method.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shill1986:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Also highly illegal.

Sent via VZW Galaxy Note ll running Beans Build 9
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imablackhat:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Very true. Then again im not too up to date on laws but isnt unlocking now illegal which is part of the whole run custom kernels
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SwiftLegend:
If my memory serves correct, unlocking is now illegal, not rooting and doing what this would entail.

Unlocking means you are enabling a, for example, T-Mobile phone to work on a AT&T service plan and vice versa, etc. Rooting/Jailbreaking, what this would entail, was ruled to be legal a few years back.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Wow really? Why don't we just steal one we see laying around and send that to him
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

And people wonder why Verizon charges so much and is such a jerk to its customers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I hope you just quoted me for convenience and didn't think I was actually suggesting that. I was pointing out how ridiculous black hats idea was
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bond32:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Not trying to defend that guy but wouldn't the "lost" phone be blacklisted, not activate?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] imablackhat:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Correct. But why does he need cell phone service to program something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] SwiftLegend:
To test. He would have to make sure everything is working fully. I'm sure he'd rather find out himself if something like cell service is working correctly rather than having a hundred testers screaming it at him.

On a side note, stop being that guy.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I believe he was agreeing with you buddy. I hope haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I quoted you because i can!!! Haha cause i was agreeing with you because your quote was sarcastic. If it wasn't sarcastic, you sir are an internet jerk! Haha

You shut your face! Don't act like you know me! Haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Gotcha. I just didn't want to get on your bad side. ... I've seen when people get in your bad side.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Haha it ain't pretty and yet I've never had a mod tell me off but once.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] littleguevara:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

It blacklists the IMEI and ESN so the phone cannot be used. You could do it but the old phone would never work. I had 6 gnexii. Trust me lol

sent from my Note 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

How many phones have we been on now? 3?lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Yeah I can't seem to get away from you...going to have to get an iPhone to escape.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

No you won't
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Regardless of any logic you think it makes, it is clearly illegal and blatant fraud. That is the type of thing that can get XDA forums in trouble and should not be discussed any further in my opinion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I second this. I'm glad you decided to front the money since you really seem to want this. I personally don't see the benefit for my use, especially if it's for the same base. Having said that put me down for 10 as kind of a apology. Sorry for helping in getting your thread off topic
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Lol naive much?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I'm not gonna quote you, but wanted to say that for me I don't see the value for how I use my phone, but I'm sure others do or there wouldn't be development for it at all. Your example is one where dual boot would potentially be very helpful.

As for this not being closed. I think mods let it go if the dev posts in it and it stays semi drama free. I ran the thread to get Nitrogkycerine33 a s3 and there was no problem, but I saw others closed during that same time. A lot did come after joelz took the s3 and rezound without really showing any work. Now that has nothing to do here, but just why people are nervous about that threads. Now that it is really a donate when the work is done maybe you will get more support.

By the way here is the most recent joelz fiasco since you tried finding it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30499594
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I would like to take some credit for getting Joelz thread shut down :)

I'm 2/2 I believe. I have a knack for getting threads shut down. I'm a freelancer -- so let me know where I'm needed!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Thanks but i'm not looking for your services in this case... :laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Yeah, I'm aware of that, but here's the thing:

You don't ask for my services - you just get them when I feel the need. Ya feel me? ;) I also take contracting jobs, but mostly I just inject myself where I see the need.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
So much to work with here. Where do I start?:D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

I threw many softballs. Lol. Hit 'em outta the park, good sir ;)

I realized that my first post implied that I offered my services. Anyone who knows how I roll knows that I prefer the blitzkrieg technique.

Anyways, joelz. To be honest? I'd like to knuckle-dust the kid in the face.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
LOL! Whatever do you mean?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Grammatical errors and inconsistency in my post. That's what happens when I lose my beauty sleep (correction: sleep) for my daughter's dentist appt :)

I need to lay off the internets for the day. Unfortunately for me, I have to work -- which involves fixing and maintaining the internet.

Sorry internet. I'm not on my A game today :)

^^apologies in advance for my derpness today
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
LOL, I wasn't looking at it from a grammatical standpoint. I was thinking of all the sexual comments I could develop from it :p

I only note grammar if the vein in my forehead bulges from the pressure exerted while reading a wall of text...that is one sentence.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

Lol! That was my other thought. Go to town! You know I would!!! :)

"Inject" - that did it...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Yup :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Yeah, I read "grammatical errors" and my response was "Huh???" My wife is the first to say if something can be misconstrued as sexual then I will. However, I totally missed that until you pointed it out in bold...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Re: I will loan the rest - Please include donation promises for AFTER dual-boot works

If I met that kid in real life....I'd be in jail. Lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
OP Updated that he has a device now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DerTeufel1980:
AW: Device obtained - Thanks, and let the coding begin...

Many thanks to all who already have donated.

I hope to get the device on Tuesday. PayPal is currently waiting for the transaction to finish.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Updated the OP with another donation and corrected that he doesn't have it yet. I "jumped the gun" base on some PMs :o
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] xdadevnube:
I suspect that I am not the only one interested in a dual-boot feature for AOSP with TW to fall back on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Definitely not. I would like that as well but don't know yet if that will be feasible. If there is enough interest then maybe it will happen though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Updated the OP with another donation and hopefully he will receive the device tomorrow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
OP Updated and the work on the project has begun
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shill1986:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Here's to hoping.

Sent via VZW Galaxy Note ll running Beans Build 9
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] badtoy1986:
I can't wait to see what happens.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
He's already making some progress.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bhp117:
Any updates on how the development?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Well, I just flashed his first i317 kernel that he compiled on 3/14. I am running it with JediXP12 and everything so far seems the same as when I was running the Sabre Kernel 16. First he had to spend some time building a solid base which it appears to be done. Next he would need to work on recovery, etc but he is making progress.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] andrewjt19:
I wish I had the spare money to help support the dev and this work (and all the devs who I've benefited from), but I simply don't have the resources. I hope those who do will be willing to give to the cause. With that said, I hope this works- it sounds interesting. The last I heard about dual-boot was with the Galaxy Nexus and an app (Boot Manager) that would permit a ROM to run using the sd card... But it was limited and the development on the app stopped before 4.2..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bhp117:
Good to know he's making progress

So the daul boot only works with 2 same base roms? I mean both kernel is either tw or asop
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DerTeufel1980:
AW: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Yes, for now it only works with the same base. (as soon as I have finished recovery)

To make it work with samsung and aosp, more time is needed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Exciting work so far! Thanks for all you're doing!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] sudermatt:
I'd like to see Dual Boot Android / WindowsPhone8

That would be kinda cool.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

You would need to see windows 8 by itself first. Which probably will never happen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Agreed. They are VERY closed source. You got a better shot of seeing HTC sense first, and that is impossible as well lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

I would probably recommend avoiding anything that has the word Windows 8 in it....

;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Update on progress added to OP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] B-Mod:
How do we donate? Just donate to the developer, or is there another separate fund setup?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Please donate to the developer - I have his link in the OP. Let me know what you donate and I will add your username and amount to the list in the OP.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ktetreault14:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

YES THAT WOULD BE AWESOME
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RichMD:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

I could be wrong but I think there is almost zero chance of that happening....

TW and AOSP is enough of a challenge.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] shangrila500:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Honestly just seeing a Windows Phone rom would be enough for me, I could care less about dual booting WP8, I cant even imagine all the problems that would cause, with Android but I would love to see a WP8 rom...... Maybe one day.......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ahjee:
Re: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Any progress?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DerTeufel1980:
AW: Device obtained on 3/7 - Dual-boot kernel work has begun

Got some issues which I couldn't solve yet. I am going to try a different approach on Sunday (don't have enough time before)

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