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[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
every phone has the menu button near the middle. whilst using the HTC is was annoying to remember what button was where.

Its a valiant effort by HTC but im afraid they just cant sell phones like other manufactures can. They keep making stupid design mistakes such as fixed battery and no SD card slot and hardware buttons that have no benefit over standard android layout. Even the home screen scrolls vertical rather than horizontal which drives you mad after coming from Samsung or Nexus.
[Galaxy Note II General] D3_:
Fixed battery is nothing new, many manufacturers do it and even the new Nexus 4 has a fixed battery.

Also, Google doesn't like including SD card slots either: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-nexus-devices-have-no-sd-card

As for the hardware buttons, once rooted most devices can easily enable the navbar/on screen buttons (and if you complain about them taking up screen space, that's exactly what they do on devices that use them natively too)

The home screen may scroll vertically, but that was standard on Android a while ago, and you can easily use a free homescreen replacement from the play store to get a horizontal app drawer if it annoys you that much.

So yes, while these may be huge issues for you, they don't matter at all for other users. You can't really call it an epic fail.
[Galaxy Note II General] ehabage:
thanks

thanks man for the review
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
But after using HTC phones, it was difficult getting used to the samsung with the button in the middle. Makes sense though. The back button on the right however, does not.

Apple seem to get away with fixed battery and no sd. It's only a "mistake" to people like us want a seperate battery. The one x+ also comes with 64gb, which I'd prefer over the 16gb app and game space samsung force us to use.

Each to their own. But in terms of build quality, it is hard to argue in favour of Samsung over HTC or the iPhone.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
50+ Million Samsung S3's 10+ Million Samsung Notes - Removable Battery, SD Cards and useful Hardware buttons.

Nexus 4 Sales = 1 million maybe = nothing

LG sales = nothing

HTC Sales last year = barely anything

Sony Sales = nothing

Samsung owns android sales because they give people features they want. Lets face it Samsung doesnt have the highest build quality or even the most beautiful design but they outsell everyone else because they come with features people want.

If HTC were doing all the right things then they would have 60+ million premium phone sales. But they dont.

Oh and the whole "google doesnt like this and that" bull crap doesnt hold any weight because Google sells less android phones than nearly all of its partners and often adds features to android which its partners thought of.
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
Simply don't understand the talk on this thread about Note 2 having a flimsy plasticy feel .. that's not justified at all.

I do agree my Note 1(N7000) did indeed have a nasty cheap feeling battery cover but my note 2 is far sturdier all over in feel ... certainly more so than my last HTC DHD which was metal bodied but with a battery cover that almost broke if you removed it & a badly fitting plastic sim cover/lower cover that soon started falling off in my pocket, that phone had nasty plastic features, in contrast my Note 2 feels solid all over & bits aren't falling off.
[Galaxy Note II General] xdapao3:
Meh, keeping on calling Samsungs "flimsy" doesn't make them break and keeping on calling iPhones, Nexus4, HTCs and the rest of those nasty, handicapped, non-removable-battery phones "solidly built" doesn't prevent them from cracking, shattering, scratching and denting...

Given the amount of iCrap 4 and iCrap 4S with shattered fronts or backs (integrated battery and glass), iCrap 5 scratched and dented (integrated battery and metal) and all the rest of those "premium quality materials", "solid build" POS I have seen IRL and on the 'net I will tend to simply disregard your post.

Did it break/scratch/dent whereas your HTCs didn't..?

My Samsungs have been the most durable smartphones I have ever owned (and my first one was an Ericsson P800 13 years ago...) whilst I keep on seeing all these acclaimed "premium quality" turds breaking/shattering/scratching/denting all around me...

Oh and I am not even going to mention (because this is totally subjective) how I hate the feel of metal MOBILE devices in the hand and how unpleasantly hot or cold they feel.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
Well I prefer metal phones, so what's your point? I also prefer the build quality of the One X, what's your point?

You'll probably find a fair few people are concerned with the plasticky feek of sansung devices. You'll also find videos of how easily the screen can crack on a note 2.

I have seen in real life that iPhones and sone of thr HTC's are quite durable, and to me they feel nicer too. So pipe down and don't make it so obvious how biased you are towards Samsung. Your use of the term "iCrap" amongst other things shows you up to be either a big kid or a fanboy (or both). Grow up and realise Samsung or Google don't give a **** about you so man the hell up and speak like a normal person.

The bias burns within you but it must be tamed :)
[Galaxy Note II General] lrcquest:
Had been on HTC one x for about 15 days. The biggest negatives being the non addition of sd card, non removable battery, higher temperature, bad battery life, locked bootloader. Having used HTC Desire and really loved it and since then it is really sad state of things.

Note 2 is really much better than one x in almost every way.
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
You will find a fair few because they have 60 MILLION SALES!!!! So in theory you argument is a total bust since nearly nobody buys the HTC phones which as you claim are made to superior standards. Resale value of the HTC phones is dreadful also.

iPhones arent durable at all you just need to hit them in the right place such as the corner and the entire phone will shatter. i know i had 5 of them and my GF shattered 3 of hers.

My S3 took a beating and never broke i had dents in 2 of the 4 corners and the screen survived.

Any phone will break if you are unlucky in how it falls to the ground so claiming there are videos is just a weak argument.

Nobody needs to be a fanboy to see that Samsung Android phones are superior to HTC and any other manufacturer in the Android market. Even though you claim they are plastic they have features people want and they sell way more phones than anyone else.

So tell me whats actually important? Shiny Alum case or a removable battery? :)
[Galaxy Note II General] deadnc34:
I have used 4 Samsungs and 2 hTCs..but I love hTC more. Samsung is far more superior than hTC in marketing..in terms of design, build quality, and ui..I prefer hTC.

the deciding factor is price. I will buy the cheaper available..
[Galaxy Note II General] irzero:
Yes a marketing always trumps design UI and build quality lol.

The Exynos CPU, Super Amoled Screens battery life and SD card slots had nothing to do with it?

HTC offered sub par performance with poor battery life and android that never gets updated to the latest release. Design is subjective and most dont like their UI with sense being totally overhauled obviously because it was already so good lol.
[Galaxy Note II General] darkinners:
Actually used to be so attach to metal frame cell phones and despite plastic ones.

But now I only buy plastic ones, why?

1. Metal frames usually compose out of aluminium , very easy to dent

2. from my previous experience, metal chassis always equal to weak cell signal and weak wi-fi, I mean really weak.

3. usually very hot (I guess it's a good thing but I don't really like it)
[Galaxy Note II General] deadnc34:
Yes I completely agree with you that design is subjective..and so does everything else bout the phone. I enjoy UI on my S3, but I also love sense. They have their pluses and minuses. Some people think external storage is a must, but I think it's just a should. It's a pity that certain handheld don't have expandable storage, but I can live with that. We are the one who control the phone afterall, not the opposite.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
Yeah I'm not arguing the features. I chose a Samsung phone.

I'm saying I prefer the build quality of HTC or iPhone.and I prefer the Sense UI.

Similarly, for most people, they don't care about a removable battery. Trust me, they really don't. We might, but they don't.

Now shush.

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This guy prefers HTC, yet you're trying to ram your opinion down his throat?

Fairly sure most people who bought this phone couldn't care less about the CPU and Amoled, as well as the SD Card slot. Most of them were normal people and don't have the interest on coming on sites like this or modding the phone.

Marketing does work. This is pretty much a known fact. I would put down marketing as a big factor in most thing irrespective of anything else or if it is "better" than the competition.

If he prefers HTC then realise it's subjective and stop acting like a clown. Similarly, you are a fanboy given your previous posts and it's east to spot one from a mile off.

Now, give it a rest.
[Galaxy Note II General] George_Orever:
Note 2 is AWESOME .. Brilliant Device .. Have many features .. and big screen but i wondering why samsung not including soft key feature in firmware :confused:.
[Galaxy Note II General] hammer of thor:
it is htc guys.. if we know anything from the past then we know that s4 is gonna whop it badly like always... and as we know that samsungs comes out with note3 later in the year which will kill s4 in every possible way imaginable... so lets wait for the note3:P
[Galaxy Note II General] Pat.:
To get fast progress & cool devices we do need healthy competition in the marketplace & that means the old style (2010/2011) screen size devices like the current iPhones/HTC's .. ETC do have their place.
[Galaxy Note II General] xhizorsz:
I would say that next month there is a new phone that surpasses the HTC One. But i love big screens and the SPen. So only a device with this properties will replace my Note.

Other people love one handed operation so choose wisely;)
[Galaxy Note II General] sonhy:
im a little late but.... note 2 still way better for me... im just jealous that the htc one has an IR port, i miss the old windows mobile 6 days where you could change TV channels where ever you went (offices, waiting rooms, restaurants, etc.) - and doesnt look like TVs will change this line of sight tech any time soon.

Hope bloody samy puts more hardware like the IR sensor on the note 2, should have plenty of space for it.

I just cant see how the htc one would have better battery life - even if it does, still not as flexible as being able to swap in a fresh fully charged battery.
[Galaxy Note II General] Loveless_23291:
HTC One with Audio Beats, optimize for music ! ^^
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
That new phone next month will likely be the Galaxy S IV.

I'm with you though. My next phone will be nothing less than the Note 3 or more likely the Note 4.

Sent from the mighty Note II.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
I just saw what the HTC One looks like and I must say, it is beautiful. Probably the best looking phone I have ever seen.
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Too bad it runs HTC sense, which means it will lag and battery will suck.

Sent from the mighty Note II.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
You're not bias at all are you?

I happen to think HTC Sense is better than TouchWiz.

Not too sure about battery life, and that'll be the ONLY thing putting me off this phone.
[Galaxy Note II General] 3kgt:
I would say Note 2 ...

I did get the chance to feel and play with HTC one and its a nice device..

But nothing for me

N2 Wins in

Battery

Screen size

Pen

SD card.

HTC Wins in

Screen Res

Speakers (Guess)

I will wait for N3.. but if its 6.3 inch then F""" It more than N2 size is to much
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
I agree that 6.3 will be too much for most people. I wouldn't want it getting any bigger than the Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] Jobiza:
They will just make it like S3 - > S4 less bezel, more screen size, slightly smaller in dimensions. N2 - > N3 will most likely be 5.7"-5.8" by making smaller bezel, but bigger screen, same dimensions.
[Galaxy Note II General] dr.m0x:
Not at all. I've owned three HTC Android phones so I feel that I've given that company a fair opportunity to impress me. Besides I never said sense was not a pleasing ui, only that it lags and is a battery hog.

Sent from the mighty Note II.
[Galaxy Note II General] vivax7L7:
Have been using note II since Jan. It has been awesome and very stable. The only irritant has been the rear which gets scratched so easily. I don't mind the plastic build, but at least they could have made it with something less prone for scratches.

I find htc devices lacking in good battery life and memory. I don't think non user replaceable battery will be a problem if the device has good battery life, like note 2, but most HTC devices have poor battery backup. Also lack of memory card is not an issue if there is 64gb on board. But it sure will cost a bomb.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
It lagged on older devices but not sure this will apply to the HTC One.

Hopefully they can sort out battery issues as there is a lot I like about HTC phones.
[Galaxy Note II General] xdapao3:
The point is that this is a thread about opinions on the HTC One vs the Note II and I gave mine on how useless the One is and on how vastly superior (to not only the One but to everything else, actually) the Note II is. Deal with it.

I also happen to have solid arguments to back my preferences and deep dislike (hate, actually) of integrated batteries and metal bodies while all you have is your own preferences and LIMITED needs.

Integrated batteries are LIMITATIONS, not value added features and metal bodies ARE more fragile, more heat conductive and less radio transparent.

I am not even calling into question the substantially smaller screen which alone means that the One should be confronted with the SIII (and it would still have a smaller screen...) not the Note II as its small screen is another HUGE LIMITATION for a Note owner.

Apple and HTC give even less of a f*ck about you as they give you LESS choice for the same or higher price... Integrated batteries and no microSD slot are NOT FEATURES, are LIMITATIONS.

Wake up from your fanboy biased sleep and smell the crap that they feed you...
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
Wow you are one sad biased little loser.

I'd suggest most people think the HTC One looks better than the Note 2. I didn't say the rest was better.

Of course though, a sad little loser Samsung fanboy like you might find it hard to accept that. I don't need to be fed anything, I can see it with my own eyes. The HTC One is one of, if not the best looking phone I have ever seen. More or less everyone I've talked to about it agrees, and similarity a lot of people agree the plastic makes Samsung devices feel cheap.

Deal with it.

Losers like you exist with most products, yet I have a Note 2 so can hardly be called biased to Apple or HTC. You on the other hand are an obvious sad little Samsung fanboy who needs to get a life instead of telling other people what to think or hillariously calling them fanboys.

The hypocracy is incredible.

Go on mate, keep spreading the word and make Samsung proud you sad little fanboy :D
[Galaxy Note II General] aviralsingh16:
I don't love one handed operating my note 2 its known for its hugeness. btw I am a dragon ball z fan too haha lol.
[Galaxy Note II General] sixpoint1:
I couldn't live with myself owning something that said Beats Audio on it.
[Galaxy Note II General] xdapao3:
Very good mate, you are slowly getting it :good: You have now cut down the crap you are spewing to "most people find the HTC better looking" and "plastic makes Samsung devices feel cheap" (the operative word being *FEEL*).

I can live with this.

As I said and repeated, you are talking about PERSONAL PREFERENCES ONLY, I am talking about both personal preferences AND *objective arguments*.

But since we now are down to talk only about looks (which BTW rank just about last among the things I look for in a smartphone) and the *feel* plastic gives you we can now just agree to disagree on both of these counts as these are mere *personal preferences* and, besides offering mines, for obvious reasons I *never* dispute them..

One last word, this will most likely be lost on you but: I don't buy Samsung because I am a "fanboy", I am (at the moment) a "Samsung fanboy" because I buy Samsung.

I buy whatever is best for me at the moment, all of my last smartphones have been Samsung because each of them were, at the moment of purchase, the best on the market for my wants and needs.

I have bought phones and smartphones from Ericsson, Sony Ericsson, Panasonic, HP and Samsung. I have been a "fanboy" of each of those brands (save for Panasonic, I liked only that single Panasonic model that I bought).
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
Yawn

So what exactly are we disagreeing about? I've said I find the One looks better and I prefer metal. That's my opinion so you can't disagree with that.

I've said I prefer HTC Sense to TouchWiz. Also my opinion.

Obviously a non removable battery and SD is not a good thing, but I also pointed out most the people going out and buying these phones do not care. I mean really, it doesn't even register on their radar. We might care, but you cannot deny most of the world does not.

So what exactly are we arguing about, and what "crap" have I been spewing?
[Galaxy Note II General] EmptyArea:
Almost a null comparison.

But because I'm bored:

(1) Metal vs. Plastic - Metal generally feels and looks better than plastic, disagree if you want but you'll be in the minority. Yes it can serially affect signal but you'll need the device in hand before casting judgement.

(2) Spen vs. Aftermarket stylus - I love my spen but honestly it's no better then a decent stylus, in fact my other stylus works on the back and menu buttons. My opinion but try before you slag me off.

(3) Touchwiz vs. Sense - I love them both, both manufactures are willing to invest in software, most of which is useless but some is great. Samsung however has deeper pockets and will probably steam ahead over the next few years. HTC might even end up in administration.

(4) Screen size - It's your choice, one handed operation or more real estate. I made my choice and I'll never go noticeably smaller.

(5) Q1 2013 Hardware vs Q3/4 2012 Hardware - We all know which is better, but by 2014 (a reasonable life cycle for us geeks) both will be seen on a par. Yes 1080p will still triumph over 720 but in the hand the average user will see no difference.

(6) Removable hardware -A fixed battery is unlikely to be an issue unless you keep the phone more than 2/3 years. Which you shouldn't if you care enough to be on XDA. An sdcard slot is obviously a benefit but Samsung's implementation of external storage leaves MUCH to be desired.
[Galaxy Note II General] fcasoli:
the hardware of the One is simply beautiful, but the screen size not comparable, the non-removable battery is unacceptable, even if now you change the phone before the battery.

I keep my Note II until Note III
[Galaxy Note II General] lrcquest:
I am sense crazy. Sense ui is so much great, probably the best since the old windows mobile days. But believe me, these screen shots are not from htc but from gn2 with phoenix rom. Htc one x purchase had been my biggest mistake, and disposed it within weeks without much loss! Think I have said this earlier but I repeat, crappy battery life, madly overheating, no sd slot, less memory, lack of basic accessories (even things like cases, screen guard etc) and best of all a locked bootloader that needs to be officially cracked open voiding warranty even if I want only is to keep my android version updated or be able to make cwm backup or efs back up etc. Seriously these things doesn't help common folks who doesn't want to overclock or undervolt or do some serious stuffs that may damage the hardware. So, best option is to go with the best optimal option available. .. n that's gn2.
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
This is comparing the HTC One to Note 2, Not the One X.
[Galaxy Note II General] MarionCast:
While I admire HTC's attempt at an Android flagship, it fails miserably at the following points (based on viewing/reading up online. Admittedly, I haven't used or seen a One in person):

*Button layout. Back and Home only? Home button off-center? No thanks.

*UltraPixel camera. Too much focus on low-light performance at the cost of image quality.

*Sense UI peculiarities. The simple task of adding an app shortcut from the app drawer to the homescreen had become convoluted. I would also include BlinkFeed here which I find useless.

*Non-replaceable battery + non-expandable storage = a no-go for me.

I do like the BoomSound and the build quality. I hope other companies follow suit (*ehem*SAMSUNG*ehem*)

While it has better specs than the Note2, I can't see any logical person leaving behind a perfectly capable Note2 just for the specs bump. That's ridiculous.
[Galaxy Note II General] barondebxl:
Hypothetically speaking, if both phones were released today, I would go with the note 2 because of the S pen and all the touchwiz features, plus the big removable battery ( that offers great battery life) and the big super Amoled screen. The One is an awesome phone no question about it. But there is excitement because it is brand new , on the other hand the note 2 has been out for some months now so the best way to compare them is to imagine them both being released at the same time.
[Galaxy Note II General] Marc_ab98:
People just go with the note 2!

I own a Note 2 and my friend has recently bought an HTC One , we decided to compare them and here are the results :

1-battery life : My note 2 has way more battery life then he has, after he updated to 4.2.2 update, he was only getting about 6-7 hrs of battery life even with battery saving on. we were able to see the battery percentage drop 1% every minute while screen on.

(not to forget that the note 2 has a removable battery)

2-camera : His "ultra pixel" camera was better then my note 2 camera JUST IN LOW LIGHT.. my 8mp camera was way sharper and the colors were so real and vivid outside..

3-Multitasking ; HTC One doesnt come with multitasking ability and you can only have 9 active applications.. my note 2 was outstanding with its multitasking ability and its "unlimited" active apps (when you long press home button)

4-Builld quality : I admit that the htc one's look is amazing with its aluminium chassis but we all know that when it comes to impact absorbing, the "cheap" plastic will absorb the shock preventing inside damage..

5-Storage : Note 2 has a micro sd slot that supports a 6gb micro sd,.. 16gb+64gb= hundreds of music, movies and photos on your phone

6-audio : The dual beats speakers lost in front of dthe note 2's speakers.. we have played the same song and my speakee was louder, clearer and you can feel the beat in your heart (btw beats audio was enabled)

7-screen : his screen was a bit sharper but it was lacking of colors.. who needs a sharp screen with an un-sharp camera?! and btw My screen was brighter ;)
[Galaxy Note II General] fade2black101:
I wholeheartedly disagree with you about the speaker quality. Most people I know, as well as myself, agree that the boom sound speakers of the HTC One absolutely destroy the Note II speakers (and practically every other phone out there too)
[Galaxy Note II General] dazza7111:
I've had note 2 and have Htc one now. I would say note 2 is better. But depends what you want. I went to s4 because wanted 1080 screen please brighter but apps to SD is rubbish and no room on phone plus knox thing. So swapped s4 for one. It's a nice phone but a bit boring to use. You do miss the pen and screen size.
[Galaxy Note II General] Zanr Zij:
Swap again to Note 3, you will get everything you want :)