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[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
:D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
amazing! yes this is much faster

but im curious what did you use to film this? ;)

edit: i can see its the One X but i liked the colors

so much re auto focus and so glad HTC finally made a locked focus options for video recording
[One (M7) General] beno619:
lol The Note 3 will be this exact shell with higher specs.

" Save money on RnD = Profit "

Thats how every samsung board meeting ends
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Yeah it was my HOX! I know, it was refocusing a hell of a lot, I was like 'meh?!' :eek:

It's wicked fast!

I wonder if there is a paradox here for the HTC One camera naysayers to chew over...

The camera filming (Hox) is a great 8MP while the One is a 4MP, so should we be able to see what's on the One's screen through the HOX's video???

I'm guessing that this has been posted before: http://anandtech.com/show/6875/3dmark-for-android-performance-preview
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ofcourse post already ;)

haha in your video the One is clearly capturing more light than the One X filming it, i still prefer the One X color balance though

Too bad im still lonely :laugh:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
One day you'll have your One day:)

... what other tests can we do... I've got my HOX, I'm raring to go!

I might do a side by side video comparison... Only problem is that it wouldn't be a 'side-by-side' in the same vid, it'd be two separate videos...
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
How louder the One is compared to OneX speaking of ringtones here?

2x or 3x louder?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Few Words By Falvio
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the word is spreading around

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-one-source-code-officially-released-11277445/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well this odd, but advertising never hurts :)

AT&T Is Making 'Facebook' its Flagship Phone
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Further news about China release

New HTC One to debut in mainland China on April 24
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
meanwhile on the other side...

http://bgr.com/2013/04/11/iphone-5s-release-date-delay-retina-ipad-mini-431350/

if this is remotely true, the One will stay fresh in terms of design / many of it's specs until the next iPhone 6, we are talking way over a year
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Nice!

Let see if I will get Sense 5 on my One X (port) before the One price get a good price
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
Yesterday i read only kernel sources and now the whole source code is available. That is fantastic. If HTC is also so fast in updating normal Android Version it will be cool.
[One (M7) General] compact_bijou:
Excellent.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/thetorxx/status/322421990113824768
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Snap! Talk about pounding out updates lol

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[URL="www.phonedog.com/videos/htc-one-challenge-the-conclusion/" Phonedog: HTC One Challenge: The Conclusion[/URL]
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
I live in Hollywood Cali. Today when I went to the Chinese theater to watch 42, after coming out of the theater, on the sidewalk, I see this this metal shipping container. It has htc one all over it. I came out of the theater too late so the container was already closed, but my brother told me they have the one there and they are letting people play with it. Right on Hollywood Blvd. Pretty sweet.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://mobile.twitter.com/alv1nW/status/322328043798528001/photo/1
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Been hunting around in the the One's kernel source release, found something interesting regarding the GPU.

We've seen a GPU max clock of 400 MHz, reported by a kernel app, now that is confirmed by the sources. But there is reference to a max GPU clock of 450 MHz, if the CPU is a 8064ab. Now this isn't some generic Snapdragon 600 file, it was found in a file called m7.gpu.c, the codename for the HTC One, why would HTC include something that doesn't relate to them?

Is this reference to a future + version of the One, clocked at 1.9 GHz, with a 450 MHz GPU?? Anybody got an idea what's a 8064ab

I've attached 2 kernel files, if you want to dig deeper.

static struct kgsl_device_platform_data kgsl_3d0_pdata = {

.pwrlevel = {

{

.gpu_freq = 400000000,

.bus_freq = 4,

.io_fraction = 0,

},

{

.gpu_freq = 320000000,

.bus_freq = 3,

.io_fraction = 33,

},

{

.gpu_freq = 200000000,

.bus_freq = 2,

.io_fraction = 100,

},

{

.gpu_freq = 27000000,

.bus_freq = 0,

},

},

.init_level = 2,

.num_levels = 4,

.set_grp_async = NULL,

.idle_timeout = HZ/10,

.nap_allowed = true,

.strtstp_sleepwake = false,

.clk_map = KGSL_CLK_CORE | KGSL_CLK_IFACE | KGSL_CLK_MEM_IFACE,

#ifdef CONFIG_MSM_BUS_SCALING

.bus_scale_table = &grp3d_bus_scale_pdata,

#endif

.iommu_data = kgsl_3d0_iommu_data,

.iommu_count = ARRAY_SIZE(kgsl_3d0_iommu_data),

#ifdef CONFIG_MSM_DCVS

.core_info = &grp3d_core_info,

#endif

};

static struct platform_device device_kgsl_3d0 = {

.name = "kgsl-3d0",

.id = 0,

.num_resources = ARRAY_SIZE(kgsl_3d0_resources),

.resource = kgsl_3d0_resources,

.dev = {

.platform_data = &kgsl_3d0_pdata,

},

};

void __init m7_init_gpu(void)

{

if (cpu_is_apq8064ab())

kgsl_3d0_pdata.pwrlevel[0].gpu_freq = 450000000;

platform_device_register(&device_kgsl_3d0);

}
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
maybe you just found out the s900 of the sgs4 mate

if 400mhz = 37fps, 41fps is perfectly to 450mhz

ts qualcomm code after all even if the file is named m7
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Huawei Edge could challenge HTC One in the looks dept.

eh a question? antennas?
[One (M7) General] Hoggles:
Maybe the antenna would be around the edge of the display...part of the bezel?
[One (M7) General] atrako1973:
no wonder htc is not making money ,out of stock............

http://www.htc.com/uk/smartphones/htc-one/#pre-order

http://www.expansys.com/htc-one-32gb-uk-black-246662/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
most insightful and enlightening thank you :laugh:
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Or maybe they are going for something similar to HTC Sensation?? Anyway it looks a rip off ofLenovo k900.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Do a night photo test with the bug i found on HoX here are the instructions:

Open camera , turn off flash , chose night scene then switch to hdr and take the photo , after that auto enchant it with gallery effects , I'm curious can HoX take better night pics with this lol :P

Btw on hamdirs HoX mega info forum you can find hamdirs tests with this bug :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Even after seeing all those pictures in the photo thread im not %100 sure about camera. Maybe S4 would be a better option if we look overall. I really want to get One but I just don't know about ultrapixel yet.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Just decide where you want to take your pics. If you normally take pics in brightly lit areas, get the S4, if you take lots of photos in darker conditions, maybe over dinner or a club etc etc, HTC One is your only choice.
[One (M7) General] XxVcVxX:
Huawei Edge...... Hmm that name, thought that was the codename for the One X pre prerelease?

---------- Post added at 12:58 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:56 PM ----------

And about the 1.9 GHz, I think the One has that step in its frequency table with the 450 MHz.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Conclusion:

Bright day photos: sgs4 9/10 HTC One 8.5/10

Macro and low light: sgs4 4/10 HTC One 8.5/10

Taking in consideration a broad photo comparison with bridge and pocket cameras(not DSLR)

So if it's just for having a 0.5/10 point more on bright daylight conditions it's really worthless to get a sgs4.
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Is this your opinion or was this taken from a review?

sent fromXperia sT21i

Everything stock
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
If you're talking colour balance and overall look, then yes the One is pretty decent in daylight. However you do lose a lot of detail being only 4MP, so to be more accurate it should be :

Bright day photos: sgs4 9/10 HTC One 6/10

Macro and low light: sgs4 4/10 HTC One 8.5/10
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Nop this is worst case scenario for a sgs4's camera beating the One somewhere ;)

CNN The Android that could crush the iphone
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'll give it a bash tonight unless anyone else fancies giving this a pop.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lets hope this will please wall street lover :p
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Yep CNN is a pure pro-apple media (American pride),so if they are willing to say that the One can ''crush'' the iphone,it means a lot is changing toward HTC
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
best thing about the One vs iPhone discussion is timing

i know may are too busy with defects, im sure many will give up and jumpship, sadly those are early adopters and they are a small percentage of any device buyers during its lifetime

for example the Nexus 7 was horrific during release, unbelievable varied and countless number of defects (yes multiple returns as well) but it still went ahead to become a success, all im saying small gap issue during release shouldn't really affects the device chances for success, like every device before it pretty soon defects will fade away from memory

so back to the timing discussion

the iPhone 5s with the same design but faster processor and some extra features is coming in few months, this is unless Apple suddenly had a wakeup call (even if they did, they don't have the anytime to make amends) so in few months same old iPhone is appearing again, the One as an iPhone level Android device will stay as tempting

so not before the iPhone 6 will Apple be able to "waw" everyone again, by that time Samsung will surely do something new after all this design backlash, meanwhile if HTC is able to do a financial success with their lineup this year (One, First and whatever next) there are no worries about their ability of doing something "new and surprising" it's what they do best
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Apple (whatever Lebanese fans said for 3 years in a row now) always present the new iphone in September/October period and never in spring.

So if the next iphone5s will come out it will not be before September 2013 and Iphone 6 September 2014.

So by the time the iphone6 is out we will have the next HTC flagship aka Wone :eek:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Any coverage from the mainstream media is positive :)

The momentum is building up for the big US release next friday .
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Initial custom kernels are starting to appear in the One Original Android Development section
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Design Billboard Artwork for HTC One Create
[One (M7) General] jotha:
Thread cleaned

Would you now all please stop hacking on each other?

If there is smth like a topic to this thread, then hamdir defines it as he created this thread. Easy as that...

And someone not liking a phones name is NOT on topic by any standards on a information thread.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
to clarify what i meant, as stated by this forum guide
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Anandtech's Podcast is out.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6896/the-anandtech-podcast-episode-19

@ hamdir, this thread can also have one or two posts regarding major smartphone/SoCs news, right?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes ofcourse as long as its actual news and updated information

so we have enough bashing OCTAs ;)
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
The One has everything now :laugh:

Still some missing mods here and there like the transparent clock,navigation and statusbar, I will be pleased to try to do it once I get the phone so I try them myself first
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
mmm how funny listening to Anand's podcast

they are actually discussing the real world negatives of the naming as well ;)

so I feel we owe Dharkan a small apology :laugh:
[One (M7) General] jesr:
OT: this is so ironic that I had to share. This is last years's HTC retail boxes all over, which IIRC were criticized.

But this year they are "beautiful", "super cool" etc. This is what I don't understand, these dual standards. Sorry for the rant.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Chec...-and-completely-recyclable-retail-box_id41830
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
As you said it has it everything but the real problem is that is not available!! I am in a preorder list since 19th of March for silver sim free ONE and still waiting.

It is a pity for HTC to have a gorgeous phone, a great demand for this product and still can not cover at least the pre-orders!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no i agree the bio degradable (or what ever eco friendly it was) box of the One X was criticized last year for it's egg shape
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
are you guys listening to Anandtech's podcast?

all i need to hear to how Anand always ended up pulling his One as a camera in stead of the iPhone 5 in daily use to sell me on the Camera

like many of us are repeating non stop, this is a real world camera

i just wish more people are open minded toward this bias real world bias
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
For Dharkan

Dharkan, this is for you.

Appologies
[One (M7) General] anit77:
Hamdir, turbo...

Once a device comes out with 4.2.2 and source is available will a dev be able to pull the Qualcomm driver and cook it into a One rom?

Just wondering in case it takes a while for HTC to release a 4.2.2 or 5.0 update.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
haha anand's bunch discussing the s4, check

Anand podcast

Starts at 00:55

I'm sorry but this should make many people proud :)

brian is so mad at the octa and SD is so funny
[One (M7) General] jesr:
lmao check this

The One with James Van Der Beek

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d332bf23d3/the-one-with-james-van-der-beek
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://venturebeat.com/2013/04/11/nvidia-shows-off-stunning-graphics-with-kepler-mobile-chip/

Kepler graphics vs iPad 4 A6X
[One (M7) General] Gene_Bailey:
That was too funny
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Apple Excludes Samsung from New Chip Development Flow – Report.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
what the hell :laugh:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Nvidia shows off stunning graphics with Kepler Mobile chip
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Well 4.2 is already being tested for the One so thats good to know :P saw it on Shens twitter.
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
What is it we can aspect from this update? I read about new qualcomm drivers.. are there any more interesting features?
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
He hasn't said any, just that he has it.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Quick Toggles will finally be back for good as well as photosphere.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
link us to his tweet bro
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
https://twitter.com/shen_ye/status/322734149041545216

https://twitter.com/shen_ye/status/322734258974236673
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/12/4216526/dawsons-creek-htc-one-ad

they verge not very happy about the ad
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Well i don't like the verge but ... I can't say I like that ad very much. You guys like it? I don't know who James Van Der Beek is, I just find this ad quite mixed up.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yea I don't really like it either, samsungs similar type ads I also disliked :').
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its a very long cut maybe with the director cuts it will look better but yea it is silly
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/orb3000/status/322753765037973505
[One (M7) General] jesr:
I found it funny the dialoques of the phone puppets.:o

Moving on, another photo comparison hit the internet

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5-Nokia-Lumia-920-and-Galaxy-S-III_id3285

Spoiler: the ONE ranked pretty bad. It's funny to see such a large scope of camera ratings.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
speck: HTC One Cases
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
I just don't get it how PhoneArena can't make decent photo's with the HTC One. Engadgets + Anandtech etc. looks way better
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
I wish they would tell the batch in their review. I have seen heaps better pics taken with the one. Maybe a defect?
[One (M7) General] beno619:
I'm starting to give up on phonearena all they are good for is copying and pasting news items, there reviews a skin deep and they rarely offer any interesting editorials/opinions.

Couldn't be bothered to go through all the pics, did they do proper low light tests?
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/04/12/tsmc-narrows-production-of-16nm-finfet-chips-to-late-2013/

This is what I expect:

20-22nm 2014 Q1

16nm 2014 Q3

14nm 2015 Q1

10nm 2015 Q3
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
no way my HTC is getting into those cases!
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Another bought review by samsung,it doesn't surprises me anymore, when they can't compete using truth they establish a lie.

Not only the One is far better than sgs4 in camera field (check the tons of comparisons) but also the Xperia Z Xplodes the sgs4 in terms of camera quality.

This is obviously a $$ review to calm down the samsung fanboys so they don't buy a One
[One (M7) General] jesr:
I agree, they are highly superficial and even unprofessional/noobish in their reviews (just days ago someone pointed me that they described the Exynos "Octa" having two powerful A15 cores and two low-power A7 cores lol). And yes they have an history of impartiality towards some OEMs.

They did night and indoor test but they missed the macro. It's funny to see, for instance, how two of the strongest camera devices (HTC ONE and LUMIA 920), even in their comparative advantage situations - night and video recording, were given the poorest results in these tests..
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Lol, once I saw they gave the One and Lumia the lowest marks I stopped reading.

Like you said incredibly noobish, I can't wait to see some real coverage.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
You can already download the generic Qualcomm drivers from their dev site, but they require a 4.2.x ROM

To give you a taste of the importance of the latest drivers, an Experia Z, with the latest OpenGL ES 3.0 V@14.0 drivers is now outscoring the HTC One in GLbenchmark 2.7. The Exp Z uses a S4 Pro, not the faster Snapdragon 600, and before the update was easily beaten by the HTC One.

The Xperia Z went 756 Frames to 846 frames (higher is better), ~12% improvement, HTC One currently scores 826. The HTC One is on even older drivers than the Xperia was before its update, so I'll expect at least the same % increase for the One, when it gets the newest driver, basically it should match, or even slightly beat the iPad 4 on that particular benchmark.

Now GLB 2.7 is tough on the iPad 4's GPU, because of certain API calls, if people are interested I can explain more.

Hamdir, I going to state that GS4's GPU is clocked the same as the One. Anyhow, with a GPU that is easily boosted by 20%, and new drivers on the way, as well as growing developer / game studio support the One will be a good games platform, apart from the industry wide problem of the control interface on mobile devices, but that is another story..
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Ofc we are! :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
:D

BEWARE DO NOT DRINK THE NVIDIA KOOL-AID. This is classic Nvidia, Tegra 4 is not even out, hasn't scored any major design wins, but don't worry Tegra 5 will be teh awesomzzzze. Now where have we heard that before?, basically every Tegra generation.

That video is either running on Kayla, their dev board, or even more likely x86 + laptop chip, actual Tegra 5 silicon is going to very much pre Alpha. Kayla is using a laptop chip, most likely the new GT 735M, which is based on the new GK208 silicon revision, which is the only laptop / mobile chip from Nvidia that supports OpenGL 4.3, an API that Nvidia has stated Kayla / Tegra 5 will support.

The GT 735M runs at almost 900 MHz, and pulls less than 20 watts, but more than 10, Tegra 5 may well support the same features, but its performance won't match Kayla on the GPU side. Even with a die shrink to 20nm, squeezing this architecture into a GPU that uses between 2 & 4 watts max, will require performance sacrifices. Tegra 5 may well support desktop OpenGL features, but will it have the compute power to really exploit them at 1080p ++ resolutions, I remain highly sceptical.
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
Small test shot. Once with night mode and once with normal setting.

The one with the brighter sky is with night mode on.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
well I knew its Kayla all long (in my reply in the one x thread)

but this is their target board

most importantly Kayla has a t3, I've been because it supports PCIE but equally it might mean they are finally focusing on GPU over CPU power

whatever it is in glad the focus is finally on the gpu side which should have been their posiotion since the begining
[One (M7) General] TheBlazingIndian:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Welcome aboard . It's better world here
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Android it's a very good os with a lot of things to do with... But I think that the ecosystem is not as mature as the iOS one. About smoothness they are pretty much the same but from my tests(with gn2 and hox) the iPhone seems more consistent.. Talking about the app , there are more free apps in the playstore but the ui of the apps are more homogenous on iOS.

Android is all about customization and freedom and if you consider their more important fluidity and simplicity you will be happy with it .
[One (M7) General] anja31:
Afaik all Htc One devices the testers have are pre samples with early software releases like 1.20 or 1.24.

That for Htc has blocked camera comparing for Testers. Hardware maybe changed a bit.

So wait for final delivering middle of march

With regards
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
It's smart to wait about benchmark before drawing conclusions. Let the final version come out. Those who are concerned about it can wait and see the result and then buy it rather than jumping and pre-ordering it and later regretting it.
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Samsung most likely will not use the s600 soc. The exynos 5 quad and octa are very good and I can't really see y they won't use any of these, remember the exynos 5 quad has not been used in any device yet, so we really don't know how bad the power consumption will be(even if its that bad, we know Sammy will push in a juicier battery)....I read somewhere that the exynos 5 quad is being used in sum supercomputers(over Intel and AMD) in a science institution in brazil....can't remember but u can google it. So for sure its going to be a beast
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Why you should regret it for 7fps less? (GL Benchmark 34 vs 41)

other benchmarks are highest in market.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Lot of benchmark talk here. What about the overall experience of the phone. Isn't that more important than a fps more or less? For crying out, get a grip!

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
It isn't so much as regretting, its wanting to know the potential of our future 900$+ Canadian devices.

I want to know if I am getting the best of the best, or second best (which is something that we must compromise).

If we do have DDR3 ram, then great, it just means devs need to do a bit more work. If we don't, then we know that our ceiling for the device will be lower then the S4.
[One (M7) General] Tribulattifather:
Just a bit of information I found out from a T-Mobile Rep I talked to today.

I inquired about the New Htc One (M7) and he told me:

"I'm not really supposed to say anything."

Then I told him, "Listen, I see you have customers you both are taking care of.."

There was two reps there in the store each one was with a customer.

Then he looked down and then was looking for cases on a rack for his customer.

He then said "End of May. They should be available around then."

So there we go; around the end of May, early June, we should see the new One

(M7) devices in T-mobile stores.