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[One (M7) General] steve1996:
No, I have both the HOX and HOX+, I can get way more battery life with HOX+ on stock, 5 hours+ screen time, 21 days standby (max, and I'm not kidding, 4% drain a day) HOX can never achieve that. Stock software on the HOX+ is optimized very nicely. But developers' support are not as good as HOX.
[One (M7) General] wednesday13:
Please, SD card on one max!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes but also it seems HTC pushes OTAs for the One X first (since the One X has the much larger audience)

as for your battery life, it was never a matter of standby on the One X series, it was always about screen on

so i guess what Ali meant, in actual heavy use, the 1.7ghz T3 on the One X+ (which was already in hot lands to begin with) will drain the battery all the same as the 1.5ghz T3 on the One X

we didnt need more standby times on the One X, we needed more screen on time
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I said I get 5 hours+ screen time if you've missed that, and I can achieve that very easily. As for 1.7ghz, the power saver works the same way as HOX, underclocking to 1.3ghz.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Not going to happen. Might get larger included storage though (or at least have the high capacity options more widely available). A single included volume has massive advantages over small included memory + msd support.

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is the first time i see this

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[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
Lol pressed thanks instead of quote

Anyway didn't the one max spec list say 16gb storage with sd slot?
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Rumoured spec list...

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no no i dont agree the Max will most likley have SD slot, the big size will help include it
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4161226]aliHTCDHD[/MENTION]

really i'm no fan of drama posts on my thread, let's keep constructive

its not like you own stocks in HTC, if they go bust its their problem

but lets not go back to the HTC financial guess works, i think the media makes it much worse than it really is, at least for the mother base in Asia

either way like i said its tiring boring and useless, so let's cut it here
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Yeah lets just concentrate on how well they make their products than how well they sell.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes nothing wrong with that, when you buy a car or even a TV do you ever care how much they sold?
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
That's much more different technology businesses wouldnt release fiscal quarter results to the public if nobody was interested besides the shareholders.
[One (M7) General] bluefoam:
The inclusion/exclusion of the SD card is not to do with the size of the phone or the space to fit it. Its to do with filing systems/software and simplicity of design. The Max will most likely not have an SD card slot.

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Or else, they have to due to accounting rules... They don't just release the figures because they enjoy the competition of it :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no it will have, it's already in the butterfly S and it's already in the max leaked specs, usually these leaks are true

finally the real reason was always space/unibody on the HTC One and X, the speed reason was a supporting reason never a main one

there will be SD slot, it's a hamdiR(tm) prediction :laugh:
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Here's the IGN review for it:

Deus Ex: The Fall Review. Futuristic Mobile Gaming
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
wrong again

Sony been in trouble for ages, but does this stop us from drooling for the PS4?

more important you think the iPhone user gives a coin if samsung is selling more?

how about the One V buyer who bought it knowing its not flagship but its the best he can afford with metal? does he care how many One Vs were sold

give it a break mate, its only the likes of the verge who like to make drama articles about fiscal results (while supporting their own unannounced brand bias)

it has nothing to do with our experience of the device, if you have the HTC One, you currently have the best smartphone in the world, who cares if it sells more than others

there is only one way out for HTC and that to become a Porsche like specialist/niche maker with broader audience than super cars but far from consumer cars
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
LG Display reveals world's thinnest 1080p LCD panel for smartphones, to be used on Optimus G2?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Standard HTC One takes a step closer to full GPE conversion
[One (M7) General] jesr:
There are pros and cons for releasing a ONE mid year refresh. Personally I'm against:

1. Questionable sales boost. Last year HOX+ comercial performance was doubtful..

2. Not much room for improvements (unlike last year's HOX+ which provided 4G LTE on quad core and huge memory upgrade); this year what would the upgrade be? Bigger battery capacity; 1,9Ghz clocked SoC?

3. The ONE is still launching in some carriers worldwide, and is due to launch soon on Verizon Wireless (very important). Launching a refresh when the previous model is still being made available in some markets?

4. HTC's top managment said more than once publicly that it wouldn't happen. At that time execs would already knew the company's plans for the rest of the year. So this can transpire disorientation and lack of confidence at HTC's management.

5. Fragmentation. A major critic made to HTC is that they cant keep up with timely updates to their several flagship models. Adding yet another one wouldn't help this situation. Also increased branding fragmentation / confusion for the consumers.

Of course this doesn't take away the fact that HTC ONE is a tremendous device for itself throughout all 2013.

And as hamdir said there are also pros:

1. Build quality refinement.

2. Upgraded / up to date specs

3. Original ONE getting cheaper

4. Some level of media buzz and exposure for HTC

Anyway, as per the Pocket Link article, things are still "being looked at", so supposedly nothing is certain yet.

Videos:

Full metal body (different than hamdir posted)

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HTC ONE vs HTC Butterfly S

[YOUTUBE]UZLdphseH6M[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Just watching the nokia event and the comparison shots for low light were against the iPhone 5 and S4 and not the HTC one :P
[One (M7) General] TRiBaL1981:
HTC One is highly repairable with special secret tool, says lead designer

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/10/htc-one-repair-justin-huang/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea nokia been bitter about HTC ever since the HTC 8x

besides the actual competition for this device is the s4 zoom and not the i5, s4 or h1
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Have you noticed gsm arena haven't done a review or a battery test for the butterfly S? Maybe because they have no more reason to bash it they bashed the HTC one due to having a smaller screen and smaller battery but now they have no reason to bash HTC the butterfly s is perfect and it has a sd slot. One thing that people may have not have noticed is the Nokia lumia 1020 uses a 1/1.5 sensor that is smaller than the 808 pureviews which is 1/1.2 sensor. The Sony honami's camera sensor is rumoured to be 1/1.6 which ever so slightly smaller than the lumia 1020's, I wonder how the Sony honami stacks up against the 1020 having lots of cybershot DNA. One thing for sure is because the competition is pushing their cameras HTC and Samsung will probably also follow up with large sensors. HTC have already attempted to increase the thickness of their phones by increasing the battery so they might also shove a big sensor but knowing how much HTC and apple love their design HTC and apple will never compromise on design even for the iPhone 5 apple shrinked the sensor 25% just so they could claim it to be the thinnest smartphone.

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Nokia use to be such a respectable company but now they just bash HTC which is just sad but we have to admit ever since HTC have stopped been quietly brilliant they have also begun bashing businesses especially Samsung which is also sad. One thing that makes me laugh and makes HTC look desperate to attack Samsung is their always attacking their polycarbonate material yet have they forgot their flagship phone last year was made out of the same material. :confused:
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Did you ever hold the S3 against the HOX? The One X might have been polycarbonate, but it was much better than that glossy crap Samsung has used IMO.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Yeah it definitely is. Design isn't about the material you use but how you use it. Samsung thinks if they release their gs5 next year made out of metal people will say it looks nice but it would probably still look like crap just look at the gs4 advance.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Verizon HTC One August 1st launch date revealed by leaked roadmap
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
GS4 advance!? lol what did I miss, Sammy released ANOTHER S4?
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Lumia 1020 looks great,WP finally have a killer device.

Will be interesting to see what HTC do to combat it. Will a 8 Ultrapixel sensor be enough ?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
what is killer about this ugly looks and modest processor?
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
The processor is a load of crap compared to snapdragon 600 or 800 but their is nothing wrong with the looks especially when it makes the phone much more reliable in terms of durability, man I've seen the 920 batted, ran over and thrown in the air and it still looked better than an iPhone 5 dropped from shoulder height. Although Nokia's design is questionable their durability is the best no phone manufacturer can compete with.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Processor means nothing to me. The OS and most of the apps run smoother than android. Just maybe the games don't.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Asphalt 8 looks awesome

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=689651371050144&set=vb.348958301841187&type=2&theater
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
everyone has their priorities for me i prefer protecting my phone and getting android and the best GPU around, gaming beats photography in my usage and the One design is miles ahead
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Let's hope for 30fps on that. Much deeper shaders and shadows will tax the GPU, and the physics will start taxing the CPU. Gonna love the game :D
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Agreed, I rarely game or take photographs so the camera doesn't interest me. But I prefer smoother OS's androids random lags annoy me.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I'm sure we all know that you absolutely love games. You will never mention cpu without banging on about how important the gpu is :D to me gpu is important but the only games I can play is racing games because they have two buttons on the screen which is accelerate and break the tilting does the rest. Games such as fps one's on phones or tablets are impossible to play without a controller their are just too many onscreen buttons like dead trigger their are four buttons and its a tiny screen so I like to stick to my rr3.

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The better the Soc and the better it is optimised the less lag you will experience. When fighting lag a gpu is a obvious solution having a high resolution coupled with a weak gpu like the nexus 10 can make the most simple animation lag.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Camera samples are amazing, I prefer android but there are a lot of people that would just ship for the pureview camera.

You know better than anyone that specs arnt everything .
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
True but WP8 is optimised so it doesn't need the best processor to get it and 3rd party apps to run smoothly.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Their are two reasons for this the first is because Microsoft are experts at making os's and the second is you may have noticed that all wp8 devices run the same Soc making everything very easy for their 3rd party developers and for optimising the device with the os. Microsoft do something that android fails to do which is have more control over the hardware therefore lowering the fragmention and making sure that wp has hardware, Soc and os which can work well. Have you noticed we haven't seen any 1080p wp's running on s4 even though this is because Microsoft have restricted this because they know it won't work well and their will be lots of lag everywhere so they took wp capability of running 1080p display away.

The second thing they did after making hardware restrictions is they made sure every wp uses the same Soc that's why the next iteration of wp will have snapdragon 800 and due to it being capable of 1080p we will also see 1080p wp. On the other hand you have android which allows businesses to make 1080p phones when the gpu can just about manage it look at the s4pro or tegra 3 running on a 1080p tablet. They also allow phones to use whatever socs they want making apps hard to optimise. If it was me every year android would have to stick with the best socs that suit their need and benefit their experience unlike now android is just running a specification race. Android needs much more control so devices have better experience and so they can be updated in the future look at the HTC one s running sanodragon s3 it's a mess android shouldn't of even allowed HTC to make that move each year when the next android os is being released one or two years before majority of devices should have good enough hardware to be able to meet the requirements of the device. Me myself I'm think of going to wp if they move to 1080p, snapdragon 800 and Nokia stop releasing near identical devices every so often for no reason.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I've moved from wp to android and I'll never use that os again. Lack of functions just isn't for me. For example, I'm using trace keyboard right now to type this up, I can't do that with a wp. And so on
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Yeah wp lacks lots of features of android and it isn't as third party friendly.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lags on the HTC one ? where ?
[One (M7) General] Tinderbox (UK):
Is there any app to show the cpu temperature, not the battery, on a un-rooted H1

Thanks

John.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I'm fine gaming fps with touch, I enjoyed and played mc4 from start to finish

this is the first android phone I owned where I can just load any game and play it smoothly despite being 1080p

as far as I'm concerned, the gpu is the most important element in a smartphone or any computer for that matter, mainly because it's the first thing to outdate in the device

I had the 8x, an amazing phone but the OS simply sucks, windows 8 pro tablets on the other hand are a stroke of genius
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.pmw&hl=nl

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.alldroid.apps.tempmonitor&hl=nl
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
The international One S uses a dual core S4 CPU, not S3. The One S C2 uses S3 (bloody letter designations). The international One S was a great phone, it's a shame HTC has abandoned it.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Why did the 8x suck cos of its gpu?

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I've heard they abandoned it because of the C2 so they abandoned both all together. Dual core with 1 gig is enough to run on the latest android but the question is, is it able to run sense 5 with all of its features flawlessly?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the issue with one s c2 is most likely drivers, it's also Qualcomm or another vendor to blame for sure they had issues with it and couldnt source better drivers for such outdated platform, especially because of sense 5 features but this doesn't justify the whole thing

2 faults, scrapping the s4 version was absurd and the whole s3 variation was a big mistake

really inexcusable from HTC

as for the 8x not the gpu, there were no games to use the gpu anyway when i had the 8x 90% of games were running sub 720p in the old wvga standard of windows 7, gameloft receny ported some of their titles inluding nova 3 I saw it in a video but while it had full effects, the frame rate wasn't great, adreno 225 is a little weak for 720p

but no the OS simply sucks, the apps support is abysmal, even released apps rarely get mantained or updated, meanwhile the OS while smooth is no match to android and gets repetitive and boring quickly, if I want limited OS I have idevices with optimal app support as a better option, at least apple finally gave up and mimics android in iOS7
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Snapdragon battery guru finally activated on my 4.2.2 stock Rom and already win

1d 4hours since I left the charge and I have 44% left
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
what's your display time ?

my battery guru will be activated in 18 hours
[One (M7) General] wednesday13:
Nokia Lumia 1020 is so nice. I'm seeing the camera app not so optimized yet. I think Nokia left the door open on this, they could have put snapdragon 800 + micro SD card slot on this but they didn't. I don't understand the SD slot, all nokia phones have sd slot except high end phones!! Wtf. Will just wait for sony honami.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
If you want a lumia with 1080p and 800 wait till Q4 that's when the quad-core wp will be out.
[One (M7) General] sasoq:
HTC ONE +

There has been some chatter on the web that HTC is going to update the HTC ONE with a 800 snapdragon and improve the camera later this year
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I'm aware of the Soc update but I think a camera update would be very unrealistic.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Android lag that happens randomly. Mainly in a lot of 3rd party app. Not so much in the sense launcher only when downloading apps. But I have had some in the sense apps like music.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Wp apps lags way more than android.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i didnt gauge my screen on time, since my main concern is wifi drain in standby, but my usage was just similar to my daily

anyway i just plugged it to charger, clocked 1 day and 16 hours and i had some juice left

guess the snapdragon 600 can not live without some sort of background sync management like battery guru, this is the only area where nvidia was right, with such a beastily quad power we do need a battery saver core
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Dropped my One last night :(

I've got a little dent on the edge, only small but it's enough to bug me a little...

I'm sure that I'll get over it... now I'm not too sure about going naked...

Luckily a friend of mine has got a HTC Flip case he can give me for free.
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
never ever go with a naked phone...to dangerous my friend specially how they make them so slim now
[One (M7) General] jesr:
The HTC ONE Glamour Red aka Ferrari aka Hot Hot Hot

High resolution pics here

http://chinese.vr-zone.com/73244/new-htc-one-red-from-fareastone-now-available-07122013/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i have to say its incredible, i never like such colors but man this is something else

anyone noticed sand kill :mad:
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
I'm with you there. The black polycarbonate it's what does it for me. Wish the black had that red as the polycarbonate. Would be sick.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
also the front speaker covers are perfectly fit, at least in this specific sample
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
best thing about HTC phones, they still keep the smart dialing feature

it's a life saver when you are hectically looking for a number to call
[One (M7) General] aamitabh28:
Interesting..

Should increase the rom size considerably though!!

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/coming-soon-modacoswitch-for-the-htc-one-video-demo-r1184
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
Absolutely agreed.

One other thing I love about Sense after having left it since the early DesireZ/HD days (besides the fact that the SMS app is actually GOOD) is the "threads" pane in contacts.
[One (M7) General] Goldenrooster:
Isn't the feature of the browser to resize text to fit the screen also a typical sense feature?
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Yeah something I can't browse without its called text wrap.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
I am not sure if was mentioned before, J_15 -> Middle east H1 Got the 4.2.2 update today 12/July.

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i seriously want to know how to DIY fix for the H1, my friend has just cracked the digitizer. Dubai HTC service center confirms that they have that special machine and parts to repair the broken digitizer.

on the other hand, it makes me think that it is a flaw in the design which allows the display to be broken too easily. i could be completely wrong.
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
Add to it read mode to save for offline reading introduced in sense 4 .
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
This..will tax the HO! DESERT BUSSSSSS

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tueidj.DesertBus&hl=en

End OT.
[One (M7) General] Jessica18:
I really like this phone, but that is a little expensive.
[One (M7) General] stirkac:
you can't repair it yourself, at least not without damaging the casing... that's why the machine exists. and it costs a lot by what i've been said, many countries don't even have one, so repairs get sent to bigger repair centres. perhaps htc did that on purpose to cut back on unofficial repairs shops and diy-ers, and they can refurbish broken phones professionally which could then even be sold as new (perhaps that's what people get with fingerprints and badly done devices).
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-face-to-face-with-mark-cerny
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/12/...ic_Full&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget

I'll just leave this here.

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And maybe this one too

http://www.engadget.com/2013/07/12/...ic_Full&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Engadget
[One (M7) General] myself11:
It's OT, but it's a 1 minute Rogers presentation on Motorola X with some new features that might be on all android phones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WCucvQ1VuOk
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Big thanks for the video, this phone just went up my list. Also I can't wait for KLP. I can't imagine what improvements Google is going to bring.
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
They've completely ripped off Knock² with their locked screen notifications...
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Thanks for the info, i did not know about the cost of the machine. Yes you are right about the availability of the machine, not all the service centers have it. The problem with sending the phone for HTC official service is that it cost approximately half of the cost of a new phone which does not seem to be justifiable and that too the phone is just a single month old :( no concepts of phone warranty here. i was thinking if i could just wait for a month or two for the DIY instructions to come in and then get it repaired for about 100$ (HTC's rate is 300$ in my place)

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BTW i received an small update - not an OTA, it was an application update i guess, i was not shown any description.

This is for the J_15 CID - Does anyone know about it?

Not sure if i am late for the 4.2 update talk, seems to be little talk about it here.
[One (M7) General] kancherlapraneeth:
I heard that OTA comprises of 2 updates, one for preparing the system which is smaller in size and the other one is the actual OTA. You might have received the first one.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
no no, i was updated to 4.2.2 last week and yesterday it showed some application updates and yes last weeks update had 2 parts.
[One (M7) General] kancherlapraneeth:
ok :). Thought you are still on 4.1.2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/06...ndchild-wanted-to-implement-the-cloud-on-ps3/

:)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One Mini tipped for July; One Max phablet readies direct Note III attack