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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The Moto X’ Clear Pixel camera could feature a RGBW sensor
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
New Double Dip Cover colors
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Butterfly S and Desire 600 dual sim to be available in Singapore
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
If Motorola can make a camera with 10 mp's and its low light is good as HTC one without having a bigger sensor they will really make HTC's imaging department look useless and they will make the ultrapixel look like a waste of r&d effort. The reason for this is because HTC made a camera that had to sacrifice its detail due to lack of megapixel but if motorola can make a camera with good detail and low light performance all packed in a small sensor then motorola has proven HTC wrong that you can create a camera with a good amount of megapixels and low light without making the sensor bigger. I know that HTC take excellent low light pics but if moto can do both then their is no reason to say the ultrapixel is good.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
The red and black looks amazing. Think im going to get it.
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Some more colours from the website...

If legit I can't understand why they wouldn't have been launched with the original. Would be good to see this though, and for the flip case.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://www.gsmarena.com/amr_to_manufacture_3_ghz_processors_by_2014-news-6347.php

So arm are prepping a 3ghz 20nm in 2014 first of all I'm not surprise. Second, they said a15 was power efficient so for the m to make the same claim we should take it with a pinch of salt. Lastly, Qualcomm will sh#t all over them.

They are preparing a 3ghz Soc but it will probably be the same a15 because the successor is not ready till 2015 I think it's called A57. Next year exynos and tegra will only have a improved a15 while Qualcomm will be completely designing a proper successor of the 2013 800 series for 2014.

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Again Samsung are fragmenting yet another series obviously galaxy s wasn't enough so their making for varients of the note 3

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_iii_to_be_available_in_four_versions-news-6345.php
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
If Motorola starts to make better cameras than HTC, that's just pretty sad.

-Sent from Marino's One-
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the article clearly says Sony scrapped the rgbw sensor for the Xperia z due to quality concerns, so really it's way too early for the usual doom n gloom ;)
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
Hamdir are you forgetting Sony mobile is the same company who made a 13mp sensor which had lacked detail and we also speculated Samsung galaxy s4 which is using the same sensor to have the same results only to find out Samsung galaxy s4's Sony sensor takes brilliant pictures compared to Xperia z. Let's not make the same mistake that because it didn't work out for Sony it won't work out for others using the same sensor Sony has produced, meaning if Sony scrapped the rgbw sensor because it didn't work out for them only time will tell if other companies using the same sensor will get same results as Sony or better results than Sony as did with the 13mp sensor Sony produces for gs4.
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
I think for how I use my phone this is good battery life lol
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
Anyone have any screen shots of battery life with zero or very little wifi?
[One (M7) General] peterg21:
It depends what you mean by very little, but this one has minimal usage:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=43170978&postcount=1305

Edit: I am guessing you were looking for someone running 4.2.2 but, just in case not, I am leaving this here.
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
Check mine screenshot :) i am on 4.2.2 arhd rom
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
You are comparing 1 sensor from last year with a sensor that isn't even released yet. Heard of technological progress?
[One (M7) General] marchitecto:
Anandtech: Android 4.2.2 Update Rollout for HTC One Begins - We Take a Look
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
awesome find, we can see how much has changed but not so easy to notice

it's ironic how much attention this gets when last year barely anyone in the media tracked the One X updates, they gave up on it early after the good reviews as they suffered the bugs and never tracked it again, the One X went on to be reinvented by HTC with consecutive updates especially when JB with project butter rolled out, sadly the media lost interest by then
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Ah i was wondering how to do this

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7128/android-422-update-for-htc-one-rollout-begins-we-take-a-look
[One (M7) General] nashshafrulrezza:
Need to choose touch to capture function.. and it really done well since leak version.. been using it.. I'm sure you gonna love it.. btw.. check out elementalX thread.. flar just give link for v2.3..
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
What are the pros & cons from having AE and AF locked?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
one thing i always notice though, photos look amazing in the view finder, i think due to super sampling

as for EX i have noticed any stuttering on 2.2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
It’s coming – HTC One for Verizon stops by the FCC
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I would still prefer if AE and AF lock are separate instead of rolled into one feature. I'd like to AE lock on one thing, then refocus on something else if I want some dramatic lighting, but right now not possible as AE locking focuses there as well and your subject then gets out of focused.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC looking to merge One and Butterfly: Plastic HTC One incoming
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Slashgear: Google Play Edition: Galaxy S 4 and HTC One Review
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]InoUELpkV3g[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
by the way i currently have disappointing standby drain after the 4.2.2 update

battery guru is learning so i hope both the guru and phone will settle things soon
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This pretty much confirms what my friends at HTC solutions told me, there is a specific way to open the HTC One

HTC One is highly repairable with special secret tool, says lead designer
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Didn't find any yet, feel free to post one if you find one :)
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Does any one noticed the difference in the black One from the First image and Second.

The Color of the 2nd image was beautiful, but seems like its not the real one.

I will choose black this time, if it has the same black as in the second image. Else again White!
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Check the picture section in my op.

There are some real life pictures of the htc one in black :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the first black was a leaked rough image, the real color is the darker black as evident in the videos and photos, i agree i first wanted the silver but the black is a real looker, i need a photo of it with the screen turned off

real dilemma, i get the silver and my wife will beg me to have it later which would save me money, i get the black like my heart would want and i will have to sell it in next refresh and still get my wife a white one!
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Re: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Some more black ones here

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/49954/htc-one-black-photos-preview

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 6 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

Dont click,you might regret , I won't be responsible if you brick ur head
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
The actual black doesn't look great, the screen glass's black and the body's black are entirely different. And just watched the video of a black version and it seems like it was catching finger prints and oils easily than white one.
[One (M7) General] kkk121:
Re: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Cant wait to say good bye to my s3. I had htc sensation and it was amazing. This one is next.
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Re: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Htc one and xperia z (see spoiler)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZeK4oltM8c&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
One looks great!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just one thing to remember the One X on announcement day was not fully finished in terms of finishing, the camera lens for example did change, so keep that in mind
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yeah.

And I have some pictures added to the op this morning which show the view angles compared to a nexus device :)

They are great compared to any other device, you can basically read everything even from 160°.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you want my modest opinion?

Xperia Z has zero chance against the One in terms of hardware

massively better screen

massively better and more durable build (ie: not glass)

40% Faster CPU, 40% Faster GPU

most likely better speakers, camera and dare i say battery!

This leave only Sense 5.0 and the ability to run Xperia Z on the AOSP as a win for Sony, as well as water proof yada yada who the hell would swim with him smartphone anyway

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This belongs here as well, the view angles and the black from the One X are still there :)
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Already in the op :)
[One (M7) General] Harrysoon:
Yea you're right...

Are you here all week? :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@Jonas do you still have space in the OP Title?

i suggest this

"HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread"

i did the same on my end ;)
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
thanks for the suggestion --> edited :)
[One (M7) General] shredzone:
Just wondering: Will it have USB OTG?
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It should as it has a jelly bean kernel, same as the one x.
[One (M7) General] shredzone:
It's not just a question of the kernel... Nexus 4 has Jelly Bean, but it's unable to do USB OTG because of hardware limitations.
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
Detailed info on ZOE

http://www.htc.com/www/zoe/specifications/

Good to see jonas here :).
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Can anyone tell what will the price be for getting the battery replaced from HTC Store? Maybe the HOX(+) users have some idea?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
exactly
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Am I the only one who thinks this is some awesome low light performance? :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
u got it all wrong, for the I5 the offscreen 1080p result doesnt matter since it doesn't have to run games in this resolution

so u have to compare onscreen results to see what to expect from real world games

the i5 scores 39fps onscreen while the one scores 31fps, the iPad4 scores 41fps onscreen, we were expecting 39fps onscreen from the s600, but right now it doesn't match iOS devices

keeping in mind we r half into the iOS flagships, this kinda sucks

what's more impressive on the i5 is the MS4 antialiasing results which is basically costless
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its pretty clear by now low light is awesome on this phone anybody who claims otherwise is just trolling
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Yep it's nice for a smartphone, I am waiting for HDR samples too
[One (M7) General] expertzero1:
would love to see the same shot with another phone! dangit
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Been loking at this Polish test of the HTC One, especially the sample shots and videos. I´m not sure what to think. Isn´t there som weird blurring going on in the lower right corner on some pics like the ones of the trees and the house with the "Delikatesy" sign? I´m really not that good at judging pictures, but someone else maybe can have look.

http://www.benchmark.pl/testy_i_recenzje/htc-one-test/strona/19382.html?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One Might Be A Lonely Handset In 2013
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here is the full size image, as usual not much details

so guys you have to remember its 4MP, like i said you are trading low light and dynamic range with pixel details
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i personally think those photos are fantastic a blurred corner might be a smudge on the lens cover

again you can judge the full scale image, the 4MP ultrapixel is meant to be seen at a smaller size

looking at the image on resized to fit on my 21inch apple cinema display at work and my iPad4 yesterday, i am amazed

color accuracy and "levels" in dynamic range is just amazing for a phone, this really means the HTC One is able to take unique pictures unlike it's competitors

there is an options in HTC gallery called "Auto enhance" this would "crush" the levels and create much more contrasted brighter image

(i will do some tests with the auto enhance options on these photos using my One X)

i do agree however they are still using a high level of JPEG compression and since details is already lost at 4MP HTC should provide the option for much higher JPEG size
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Nik I asked the Q. And you answered that to me I think
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

But Iphone need to render 727k pixel against HTC one need 2138k pixel. There a 2.9x more pixels in HTC
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Let's hope we get some good camera mods like lyopotas at the htc one x :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Good news on the GPU front, no throttling issues on the HTC One

This should mean the GL HD 34fps is final on the current Android 4.1.2, the difference between the HTC One and the Samsung device, is either Samsung is using higher GPU clocks or drivers since it's on Android 4.2.x (no i still don't think its the DDR2)

either way, if it's drivers we will get them eventually with the 4.2.x OTA and if clocks we can raise them with custom kernels like usual

but this also confirms the HTC One GPU is faster than the DNA (10fps difference in Taji test)

I will be researching gaming on the Droid DNA today
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Its more powerful device, mas its a great in various points, a very good one tô purchase
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Okay, so camera issue is resolved, gpu is a good and for those concerned about s600, no comments for them, is that right?

Sent from my DHD
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Phone Dog: HTC One MWC First Impressions

[YOUTUBE]f4dLnH3pfy4[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
two concerns about GPU

first does it throttle like the Nexus 4, and the answer seems to be no thankfully

second why is it slower than the full s600 GPU speed, drivers? clocks? DDR2? we still don't know

its still 10fps slower than the iOS devices in onscreen performance but at least now know there is no horrifying throttling risk (which is much more damaging to gaming as it could half the speed all the sudden)
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
Today i got 4.2.2 on my stock One and its seems to be bad. Music causes 10% instead 1% on 4.1.2. Also Android and Kernel are on the same level. But music and gaming performance are better then before. :)

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] orderme:
How did you get the ota in germany?
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Damnit Hamdir got this before me :')
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
The standby time is generally a little disappointing even on 4.1.2 After being spoiled by the companion core on the HoX, I kinda subconsciously wanted the same standby time performance for the new generation /:
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
Standby time ? Mobile data or WIFI ?

because for me standby time on mobile data is better :) .. WIfi standby sucks :(
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
How does that make sense o.O WiFi is usually way more energy efficient cos it doesn't have to constantly ping for connection, whereas mobile data has to constantly ping to the nearest tower @_@
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
How do I know that I only told u what I have found about battery drain on WIFI and mobile data .. (radio problem....)

When I check wakelocks I see that wlan_rx_wake is nmr 1 on mine wakelocks list. ..
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I'm gonna go test this thank you :) Do you have WiFi best performance on in your WiFi settings?
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
No but I have Optimalisation Wi-FI checked (did not change anything)

Btw check mine screenshot!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
plus?

HTC M8 is 2014's flagship handset, but first will be an updated HTC One
[One (M7) General] erto90:
same here.. 4.2.2 drains more battery than 4.1.2, legit..

hope in future updates..
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
I hope they don't make an updated HTC One for this year. As they did say the One would be THE only flagship device.

It'd be better for them to concentrate on the next flagship model for 2014.

Imagine the HTC One with extremely thin bezels :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
we are in the mid of July and we have zero concrete leaks so far

this means if its true its far from release, and HTC will announce the m8 in MWC February

so really between now and the m8 announcement there is almost no point, unless they just want answer to the S4 advanced in korea

then again, HTC had a habbit of announcing XE / plus in September / October
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Want to Get Your Hands on HTC’s Butterfly S? For $849 Your Dreams Can Come True
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
if wifi is the problem, guess battery guru is really needed (currently learning)
[One (M7) General] I Am Marino:
I'm sick of this obsession with paper thin phones because it prevents other features from being implemented like bigger batteries, nicer cameras, etc.

I want a new flagship as thick as the OG Evo.

-Sent from Marino's One-
[One (M7) General] jonmorris:
There's a new product announcement on July 17. Probably just the mini version though, or possibly the One with Windows Phone?
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
wifi and mobile internet are much better then v1.29.12 and shouldnt/dont cost so much energy like on 4.1.2.
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
http://htcsource.com/2013/07/update...n-2014/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Lol
[One (M7) General] 3hpv9w9m8E:
Lol - thats my screenshots from 4pda I posted when 4.2.2 upgrade came to my One 802w )))
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I'd like to see f@cking one max to appear! I want HTC to smash the note 3 and togari.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
If HTC release a updated One with a bigger battery without changing the dimentions of the device I think every on will be annoyed on why they didn't attempt to shove a big battery in the first place. When the hox+ was released every one was puzzled why they didnt shove the hox+ battery in the hox in the first place if the hox+ had its thickness increased then they could have used the excuse the hox+ is thicker this is why they have a bigger battery than the hox but all the dimensions were the same with only 5 gram added. The updated tegra 3 was soo power hunger worse than the original hox that the extra battery life didn't increase the battery life compared to the original hox.
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
+1 6 inch of super LCD sat inside a smooth milled ali unibody hmm makes my mouth water :D

But with how things are going in mobiles lately I'm not sure what I'll actually get next think I'll just wait till I kill my hox then see what's about
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Go and get greenify as well !it's the best app for battery savings and in combination with battery guru it should be even better !
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
HTC One Mini and a HTC One tablet would be perfection :D
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://www.slashgear.com/slashgear-101-nokia-pureview-10289921/

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:what:
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I can't wait I want one max right now!
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Restrain yourself HTC, don't fall into the dark side with a ONE mid year refresh!!

Anyway we are getting mixed rumours / information regarding the upcoming "plastic" HTC ONE situation:

HTC One build process will appear in future HTC designs

EDIT: cool bits

HTC: Forget raw specs, the One remains our flagship
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
^^ HTC doesn't have any choice, they MUST release something else in order to compete with the upcoming IPhone 5s, Note 3, Nexus 5, Optimus G2, Sony Honami and whatever else is planned. Based on sales, only Apple can afford to release one phone a year right now, not even Samsung can afford it.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
They do have a phone upcoming to compete with all the phones you've mentioned besides the iPhone 5s and it's the HTC one max. You may say the HTC one max is a phablet but so is note 3 and every other phone listed besides iPhone is 5"+.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
You're right I forgot about the One max. Still, point is there's nothing wrong with HTC releasing more than one device a year, at least for now. 1 to compete in the first half of the year, a second to compete in the second half/Q4 of the year.
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
Early adopters might feel a bit left out. Especially when HTC themselves said the ONE would be THE only flagship.

The HTC One Max will be THE answer to the High end specs battle

One overall best size/high grade phone

One Mini for those mid ranged peeps. And those who want a slightly smaller phone but with the sleekness of the ONE :)

HTC One 10 will be THE best looking tablet :p (One can hope)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ummm my comment was actually about that story

like I said before my limit is 4.7inch so I don't mind a plus

I want to keep the one this time (when the m8 comes I'm keeping the m7 as well) wouldn't mind replacing it with a bumped m7 though

anyway if we don't see a concrete leak within a month, I dont think it's happening
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
not even apple can afford this anymore I think the i6 will appear in less than a year and don't forget the budget incoming iPhone, i am with you where is the problem of a refresh really? those who didn't buy it yet will love the new additions, those who bought it since a while got to have it much earlier, those who bought it recently most likely got it for a lesser price

[MENTION=2044377]jesr[/MENTION] thanks for the news, so glad HTC will stick to metal, also it's interesting they point out that they nailed the process, lets hope better QA as well

this is another reason I wouldnt mind paying a little to switch to an m7 plus, I would like a more refined build quality, for example I expect the volume button to turn real metal
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
besides can we stop being surprised about the "refresh"

seems HTC will always refresh mid cycle but their main focus both in hype and software remains the main flagship announced in MWC

like the One X+ it's refresh, but the One X remained the star with better software focus

its also good news for those who sill can't afford it, if the plus comes around the price for the vanilla version will drop
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Deus Ex: The Fall review

This is the iOS version review but an android version is coming soon, shame about the bad score