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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nbell13:
You have to flash gapps to have the play store, i believe... and he needs the play store.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cheeze[iT]:
He mentioned needing play store for apps. Why not just side load the individual apk?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
"" Now I find out Google is insisting on taking something extremely private (my social graph) even when I don't want to give it to them. I respect my friends' privacy, and I don't want an intersection of my online and offline lives being made by some 3rd party with intentions I don't trust. ""

Give one example of one single person harassed by any 3rd party.

Again, you want to change something that is used by one million (or so) new people every day. How's that gonna happen?

Btw, it's like buying a Ferrari and complaining that you can't get it to behave like a Fiat Punto (no offence Fiat Punto); you can't!

Get a simple Nokia phone with a sim card that allows for many entries. But make sure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands, because, what if someone sells all your contacts to a 3rd party company that will - - - - - - - - (fill in empty space with options) with your contacts.

Or use this phone and keep all your contacts on a text document and copy-paste every time you want to call or text one. But, make sure it doesn't fall into the wrong hands!!! See above.

(Maybe a mod should look into this..)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheIntruder:
This thread is nuts and should be closed as people are going to take the piss... Buy an old Nokia as suggested above as what you are trying to do is almost impossible good luck chasing it..

Int

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrisrozon:
Don't get me wrong, I'm quite interested in the process and I'd like to keep track of your progress. As an intellectual exercise it intrigues me.

In practice, though, Google sold you a phone at several hundred dollars below market value (presuming you got it off the Play Store), and they provide a full suite of apps to you 100% free of charge - with the explicit understanding that the trade-off is targeted advertising.

Opting out of that model means you should probably not have bought a subsidized Nexus phone, and you should be using only fully-paid replacement apps.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XDA_Bam:
There are three possible solutions I can think of:

When the 'Contacts' app tells you, that the new contact will be synced to your account, say YES. I am pretty sure that this only means that the new contact will be linked to the selected google account on your phone. If contact syncing is deactivated in your settings, it will not be synced to Google!

Create an account with a CardDAV sync adapter. By using a dummy account and linking all contacts to this new account, nothing will be synced to Google, even if you accidentally activate syncing in the settings.

Use Droidwall to prevent the contacts app and the Google services framework from 'calling home'. This requires root but can't be circumvented by any app :)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thracemerin:
The answer of 'don't install gapps' is the correct answer, no gapps means no Google sync frameworks which means your phone can't send anything to Google, simple. The phone app can't sync your contacts if there is no contact sync adapter.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] startngate:
I find it amusing the the OP actually thinks that he's protecting anyone ... :D

Any of his contacts with an iPhone, Android device syncing to Google, or a cell phone in general has already provided enough information to Google, Apple, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, T-mobile and/or any other carrier you'd like to mention to create all of these mysterious links of his 'social network'.

Privacy is an illusion people. Attempting to put a tinfoil hat on to protect yourself from that fact is folly at best.

If you don't want to sync your contacts, or show your location, that's easy enough to do. Just don't think you are protecting yourself or your friends in the process.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bobola:
+1 to the contact copy/paste method

Maybe you can request an app/script from a dev from xda that copy/paste a list and make it to dial?

Other things might be installing stand alone .apk for apps.

You might be limited to a great numbers of apps cause some apps require permission that you might not agree to.

Not sure how you can get paid apps tho.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dudemeister667:
someone asks how he can protect his privacy as good as he can and most of the people answering, just flaming him for his desire for some privacy.

i for one can understand pretty good that you want a nice phone but still not wanting to give up your privacy all together.

sad to see that less and less people see it that way now a days :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Aw. Here's a puppy pic.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MachinTrucChose:
I did that already (see OP), but it still prompts me. Is it a generic dialog then, where it's asking for permission to sync, but doesn't actually do it because I configured it not to elsewhere? I'll need to be in control of the network connection to test this, sniff the WLAN with Wireshark. I don't have the hardware to do this at this time, unfortunately.

Nope, I'm not. I intend to use Navfree which is an offline map app. I can control its permissions easily, and prevent it from accessing the Internet once I've downloaded the maps.

Nowhere in my purchase contract does it say it's being sold to me a non-gouging prices under the condition that I submit to constant snooping.

1) I addressed this above, I'll need to test it for myself.

2) Does this replace Google's own sync?

3) This appears to be a promising solution! I granted access to Play, was able to browse to an app and clicked the Install button, however the download never starts. Do you know what other service I need to grant permissions to to make downloads work, and if so, whether that service is also what the other Gapps use to upload my info to the mothership? EDIT: the one process that seems applicable is a single multi-purpose process called "Google Play Services / Google Contact Sync / Google Account Manager / Network Location"...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcarter241:
I think your best bet man is to just get an old flip phone. While I believe you can use an android phone without Google services it seems more of a pain to idea with.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Monk4Life:
@OP

Why even bother buying a N4 if you are trying to go through hoops to get your "privacy". You obviously knew what you were getting in to before you purchased and should have done a little more research before hand and you would have found this would be rather difficult to accomplish. Android natively is this way with Google and your privacy is not their concern as they try to help you by doing some of the things you are trying to prevent.

We now live in a cloud based world so trying to get privacy with the way technology is moving is going to be near impossible when your buying the latest gadget. Buy a cheap pay monthly phone and voila problem solved.

Not trying to bash but the idea for this is kinda of ridiculous. You will never have 100% privacy with a N4.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MachinTrucChose:
Thank you for your concern.

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[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Monk4Life:
You're welcome! Glad you don't seem arrogant.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Is that what this was, completing your 10 posts..? Hahahaha!! :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pyroemaniac:
You can install a contact app and use that to story locally. I'm pretty sure titanium backup can let you backup contacts to an XML file so you could created a XML file and use TB's format to create contacts and install them through TB.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Silencer96:
Sideloading is your best bet. There's no other way to go about downloading apps without Google tracking your every move. In the end, I doubt they're compromising your information, since they have billions of people's information already. What're they going to do to one person? Let loose, dude!
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baka2x:
I believe Droidwall has moved on and become AFwall+. You can search for it on XDA. You mentioned that you flashed the OpenPDroid patch. Get familiar with it the OpenPDroid manager as it's very helpful for your purposes.

Also, if you use the stock calendar, you can't save events without syncing to a Google account much like the contacts issue you ran into. It's absolute rubbish, but you probably already know this.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshnichols189:
You do realize if you select for it to sync with your Google account, IT WON'T SYNC IF SYNC IS OFF?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baka2x:
Adding to this, when sync is off, you can add new contacts locally. I just tried to create a new contact and a notification popped up and I tapped "keep locally".
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zaptac:
AW: [Q] Using a Nexus 4 without sending every private piece of info to Google

Are you aware of this project?:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1715375

Never tried it, but seems interesting.

@all-post-privacy-is-here-ranters: why are you posting here? If you think the op is bull**** just go away.

Send by me.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ismethajametovic:
Unless, your dealing hundreds of pounds of drugs or something of that nature, it's not really a big deal to me. I can get schroogled anyday. :crying:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XDA_Bam:
OK.

No. It will install a third sync adapter/account type (besides Google and Exchange). If you then attach all your contacts to a new, empty CalDAV account, it will not sync with anything and your contacts are safe. It might be tricky to convince the software to open an empty account, though.

Using Droidwall can be a little tricky, too, since not all services can be blocked seperately. Maybe it's not possible to block contacts sync while keeping the Play Store working...
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] baka2x:
Thanks for bringing this project to my attention.

I also agree with your statement to those posting that the OP has nothing to worry about, questioning why he's using an android phone, yada yada. You have a differing view than him on privacy concerns? Cool. But, at this point, none of you are adding anything of value and are all repeating yourselves ad nauseum. Your opinion is meaningless in this thread. Go away.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
Here you go, enjoy.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
P. S. Since when is argumentative discussion not accepted in a forum? Who gave you the right to ask people to go away?

If anything, solve your big brother concerns via pm and not in a public thread! You post it in here, prepare to hear different opinions. You want to agree between the two-three of you, start a whatsapp group or something.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Gsam101:
The simplest way is to flash a cyanogenmod rom without flashing the Google Apps package, and you'll have your android phone without google (and you can go to FDroid or androidPIT for apps).
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] inh:
The topic starter didn't ask what everyone thought about his privacy concerns, he asked for help solving a problem. If I ask you if you think my baby is cute I don't want to hear about how you and your boyfriend have chosen to never have kids because the world is doomed because the ice caps are melting. Answer the question and move on.

Personally I think the OP's questions and concerns are very much illegitimate and am looking forward to more helpful posts. NOGAPPS was an awesome contribution to this thread :good:
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
Tough to keep specific and not be curious.

Remove the google account on your phone. Download desired apk's using PC, sideload.

Truth is I am not sure there is any way you can run their OS without being tracked in some way, shape or form. Holds true for any OS/device. One possible way would be to cut all external data access and sync for updates with your PC.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kaiowas82:
A forum is made for public discussions. If the op didn't want to hear what others have to say, a forum is not the right place to get help.

Said that, I'm free to write that I find some of the op statement quite amusing, like when he thinks that using an offline navigator is enough to do not get his location tracked.

I bet he's always using a proxy, paying only with cash, and he appears in photos only with hat and sunglasses.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] startngate:
Well, I won't speak to anyone else's responses but mine. My response was based on this from the OP.

All I tried to do was point out that perhaps he was going to a lot of trouble to 'protect' against this, when in fact if all of his 'social graph' wasn't actually doing the same thing he was wasting a lot of time and effort. Whether or not he sends information to Google, they have it through other sources anyway. If 'Sally Smith' is in his contact list, and he is in hers, chances are Google and/or Apple probably already knows they are connected somehow.

Plenty of people have pointed out easy ways to reduce the amount of data sent, so now it's just up to the OP to figure out how much hassle he is willing to put himself through to feel better. It's an illusion if the OP thinks he is actually protecting himself and his 'social graph'.

As to whether or not your baby is cute ... if you post a picture to a message board, you'll probably get a lot of simple 'yes' or 'no' responses. But you're also going to get a lot of 'he/she would look better in that picture if you did ...' and 'why they he!! would you feel the need to post a pic of your kid on the internet' responses. It's the nature of the internet and message boards.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vangelis13:
^^

Bingo.
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clockcycle:
As far as understanding a person's reasons for wanting privacy, in particular and specifically to contacts' personal information and privacy, I can understand your stand point.

I.e. Facebook recently made another change to their privacy policies which affects your friends and their friends and what others can see.. A dear personal long time friend requested everyone to manually click her and make a change so that my friends' friends and potential strangers wouldn't have access to her personal information. In particular she was concerned who's reading it, who learns about her children and where they might be at any particular moment, without knowing their intentions.. I totally understand her concerns..

It's no longer about my personal information which I may or may not have control over, but that of others..

Fair enough no?

Slightly off topic, but on the topic of privacy. Check this out and it's implications..

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trendin...nding-him-another-woman-online-200641774.html
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrDaimX:
Have you tried disabling Google Contacts Sync under Setings > Apps > All Apps ?
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pjc123:
Geez, this thread is from back in February. The OP and all of his contacts probably got busted a long time ago by the NSA, who got his information from Google.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] H@des:
Hi guys,

Im new to this forum and im going to buy my first android mobile. Im thinking to go for xperia j. I've gone through all the specs of this but still im slightly doubtful if this will get lagged after upgrading to JB.

My usage is

Hardcore gamer in pc but not in mobile. Will play in mobile bit rarely.

Heavy browsing and social networking.

App lover.... will install lots of apps.

not a big fan of mobile video recording.

Clicks pictures occasionally.

Does a lot of IM.

So now somebody pleaase tell me if i can go for xperia j. If not, what alternatives do i have.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] gavster26:
android 4.1 will bring performance improvements like project butter = Vsync tripple buffering & intuitive touch. the internel memory is only 2gb. & app data partition is 750mb i think but there are ways around that to install more if needed. all other alternative devices like u & sola wont be updated to 4.1 jelly bean. i my self came from xperia ray i find xperia j better. with a few tweak scripts and things its alot faster than when i first got it. hope this clarifies things for you.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] H@des:
thanks gavster26. :) but updating to JB, will it not take more memory because of the new added features like Now, offline voice search etc....???
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] rachit7:
Yes u can go for it and new update will not take space !! U can also check lg l9 it not much pricey !
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] nishuy21:
No mafter buddy if it will be jelly bean

My friends have problems with this mobile

Also it is of around 300$ still not capable of playing 720p videos

Also it has 480*854 resolution but it has andreno 200 which is quite outdated for this price

Better go for xperia u(no sd card support), xperia go, xperia sola

Samsung galaxy ace 2 these are far better for same price perform 3 times faster than xperia j:victory:

I am also a hardcore gamer on pc

But I use android for playing also when I am not on pc

As it got some exactly same games like pc

Mc3(battlefied 2) max payne 1, GTA vice city etc and the mobiles I suggested u will run these games ultra smooth
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] H@des:
which mobile are u using nishuy21??

im not much concerned about 720p videos....thats ok for me.....

i do some serious multi tasking.... n i dont wanna get any lag while i do...this is my major concern..
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] gavster26:
More cores don't mean better performance my girlfriend has a xperia u and it lags and the screen redrawing is rediculase. I game a lot on my j and the only game it struggled is GTA my Xperia ray did aswell untill I overclocked it to 1.2ghz and then it was fine.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] gegode:
im using this J almost 2 month..

nothing goes wrong so far :D

wide screen

beauty device , slim elegant :D

and its cheap :D

if you want to stay in stock firmware , locked , just use V6 Super Charger make ur J peform better

based 512MB ram , 1GHz single core , i say its not for gaming , but i play a lot game on it LOL

i use EPSX there, lil bit lag only , some HD game , lil bit delay too , but low game , working fine..

if u decided to to unlock bootloader

theres is a Kernel ICS Vengeance overclocked it to 1.3GHz , its fine ofc :) *main problem cant use the CWM backup/restore*

if you want to use ClockworkMod working 100% just find "adfad666" thread

and CyanogenMod 10.0 jLo fxp 205 so far , its stable for now with sub lil bugs left , just wait till we get full fixed CM 10.0 , and J ready to rock :D

so far i think J its a cheap but valuable devices to learn new things *since im new on android , still got a lot to learn*

and J its not build to be extreme gaming device imo.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] monchicchi:
I think yes, this phone is cheap and it does have what you need..

Its around $210 in my country..

And this will be update to JB :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] H@des:
its not the internal memory im worried about....im worried aboout the RAM. if its get updated to jb.... what then? will it consume more ram leaving me few mb?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] nishuy21:
I have xperia tipo, galaxy s2

And my friends have xperia go, sola and ace 2 these are best in this price

And u can search a bit at xda u will find xperia j is lagging for some people

And if u are a gamer than u must know the performance difference between single and dual core CPU

Also if u don't care about 720p videos but if u are getting 720p video playback than there should be no problem..

U can compare the review at gsmarena.com of xperia j ,go , sola and galaxy ace2 u will find yourself... The difference:good:

U want multitasking the Mobiles I suggested u above give u better.. Than xperia j

And also galaxy ace 2 has 768mb ram and is also upgradable to jellybean...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DBDMagic:
I found some where to download numerous pro and premium apps license check keys and all
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] raymond4:
Seriously dude what's wrong with you ? :mad::mad:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Jason123420:
Yeah they cost anywhere from .99¢ - $10.00. You probably spend more on coffee in a day.. Support the developers....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] thakrew317:
This thread is A. Bout to get locked real quick or B. Bout to be flammed really bad i take it the above users were just being nice
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
You know what the funny part is? People are quick to jump on and flame someone who posts things like this. Although it IS against XDA policy.. the kicker is that more than half of you have have downloaded a pirated app or 2 in the time you've owned an android phone. Don't be hypocrites. Just pm a mod and they'll close the thread. Done deal.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Jason123420:
I dont pirate $2 apps.. Just movies haha
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Elitevaz:
Yep, I'm sure I could find some of these apps to pirate, but they are more than reasonably priced, and I am very hopeful that money truly does go where it belongs (to the bright minds that make them). Especially after taking an intro college course to programming and finding out that I have no idea how complex these programs really get. The best backup app is less than $10, certainly don't get that on windows.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] raymond4:
Well I'll tell you something I have not pirate not one app I payed for my apps because I show my gratitude and support towards developer's.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
I call bullsh*t. Piracy is one of the biggest crimes in the world and EVERYONE has done it at some point or another. Whether it be an app, a movie, music album or game. Not condoning it, just being real. Don't kid yourself.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] redishbrown:
well…

the price on all apps just went up!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] raymond4:
Well that's your opinion and like I said u can believe what u want to believe but I said I don't and that's where it going to stand. BTW I'm not everyone else other people do it because there cheap and ill tell u something I have plenty of money to buy apps and other things too. Enjoy your day because I don't have time to debate with someone like yourself about this or anyone else
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] RushAOZ:
Whatever you say to make yourself feel better bud.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] raymond4:
Its not about me feeling better I'm just saying it how it is.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] algorhythm:
There is a difference between silently downloading a paid app for free and bragging about it to the world like you are some badass that knows how to use Google or torrents or whatever.

For the record, I have downloaded pirated apps but have replaced all of them with the paid parts from the store.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] skaroger867:
I usually only download a pirated app to try it out if there is no free version. But sometimes I can't find the latest version and give up. If the apps worth the money/ I wanna support the dev I have no problem paying.

I do enjoy my hassle free updates that's for sure