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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i think it means soff is not achieved through exploit but by using HTC Tools
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
This wont be another thing with some people wanting to pay someone to get S-Off like with the One X last year. MooMoo the guy was called? I cant remember.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
OK, I've joined their group chat, I asked him about how to s-off one x and he just linked me to the online store taobao. 100rmb ($16) and can only be done in a store. It says using tools, only takes one minute.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Sounds like the white card like the One X last year. I think it was a HTC device or a HTC similar one that brought S-Off.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
link to the online store for unlocking, s-off for one http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm...b1c7-883dd9458629&ad_id=&am_id=&cm_id=&pm_id=

here's another one, 10 times more expensive http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=2013.1.0.104.ikoQUI&id=19982779131
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
best way is an SOFFed unit from Ebay or wait for the exploit heard its not hard for snapdragon

but HTC recently closed an SOFF exploit for the One S in the JB update...
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
As hamdir said, it makes sense to delay it a little and then deliver the right quality. Also note that S4 is not in great stocks in the US and reportedly delayed in Canada.

I don't think everyone who likes the HTC one will just go and get the S4 just because it is available. Even with stocks HTC has to do marketing to get their devices sold to the layman who recognizes 8 cores as a great stuff.

Finally, HTC One would not match the S4 by numbers this year as Samsung is a too big a brand for a single phone to turn up side down.

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I sometimes wonder if it's actually good that HTC's devices are little more secure than Samsung's - at-least for a end user. For instance the S4 has root with an exploit and not a bootloader unlock(hope i am not wrong)

Views?
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I've asked those guys if there's another way, they said that I can only send the phone to them and let them do it...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Best HTC One accessories
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=3379782]pradeepvizz[/MENTION]

yes i really don't understand this, the entire thing, even comments by Faux before he received his One

"why is my HTC One not here yet, the SGS 4 is almost out"

this is what i mean by saying people are too easy on the other brand

i mean why is it that the SGS4 is an ultimatum to the One? if you really like the One better you do whatever it takes to get it, its that simple, i fail to see the connection
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Just installed Nova 3 on my One, actually can enjoy playing this now. Full effects too I think?
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
When I was preordering my one, the woman beside me already bought the s4, I was like, why am I still preordering the one when the s4 is already available for sale? I was kind of mad actually. But I know what I want, it's not the s4, it's the one.
[One (M7) General] TRiBaL1981:
I agree with you. I find this kind of thinking somewhat immature.

Do your research and then buy what you like best, even if you have to wait a little bit more. Why compromise?

By the way i ordered my one from amazon.uk last Tuesday and i received it today. :silly:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
hmm lets hope we have some new snadragon insights tomorrow
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
one screen shot of the fountain section and we can tell if its full effects and 1080p ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
enjoy it mate

here is my current situation and yet im holding fort

the shop just next to my work (1 minute walk) has the SGS4 Octa for 725$

My One X been damaged since few weeks suffering some sort of display corruption after a deadly fall

meanwhile the limited HTC One is still going for 950$

one second holding the S4 and it cleared away any possible temptation

anyway where is that damn shipment email :p
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Np, I'll take some tonight and post them tomorrow, it's looking nice and has decent frame rates so far :)
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Not sure if it's posted already...

http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2013/04/30/editorial-htc-are-back/
[One (M7) General] Flight__81:
I really wish HTC had the marketing dollars Samsung have. In my local shopping centre Samsung have a display set up with GS4, note2 etc and I went up to play with the S4, but honestly couldn't tell if it was or not. So I asked the girl and she said, "yeah this is the 4S and its been updated with all the latest stuff" omg wanted to face palm myself lol. While HTC don't have the product diversity Samsung has to have a display, it would be nice to see more advertising from them. It's almost non existent in Australia.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
& [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION], Guess we have 2 other kinds of ppl other than us :)

1. The nerds - like Faux - i think they are little impatient to wait as they are the biggest geeks around! so naturally they are going to play with almost all the great devices there.

2. The semi knowledge geek - I think these guys generally got lot more $$$ to spare than us :) so just choose whatever they see interesting and spread the news around!

lol

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at the pace where technology is growing, marketing needs special staff from the companies directly.. i had visited the mall and the sales gal had no idea what zoe is all about!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Will 2013 be the year of the HTC One?
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Samsung Galaxy S4 vs HTC One - Video & Gallery Technobuffalo
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So I just made a tour to retail shops in here and I'm amazed

HTC One is 900$ due to "high demand"

SGS4 725$

Seems all the shop agree without question the One is the better device but remain focused in the commercial and brand awareness win of the SGS4, with s4 banners everywhere

Speaking of which slashgear been tweeting non stop about the H1

I really think we can feel safe about commercial success, never mind beating mass sales of the s4, it will still be a success
[One (M7) General] mahay_love:
I know that this should be good news, but the fact that just because it was deemed better they raised the price irritates me. That's just taking advantage people's necessity to own the device. I'm glad I ordered directly form HTC who didn't raise the device's price even after "high demand".
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
dude how is this good news its been driving me mad, this is extra profit added by retailers and has nothing to do with HTC, depriving me from buying it, especially when I need a phone as my One X is damaged

its still interesting all the same

as for me I'm susposed to get mine from a less corrupt source ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
awesome ;)

these ar interesting quotes from users who were on the fence, john291 was most worried about the camera

and a nice summary
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Video Highlights are the killer feature of the HTC One

HTC Blog: Low light photography tips

Mophie Announces juice pack for the New HTC One™ Smartphone
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
Well, the thing is with more delays, more options begin to emerge in the market. For example something like this:

http://vr-zone.com/articles/sony-honami-cyber-shot-camera-phone-details-leaked/19881.html

Now I was so exited about the One and would have bought it by now if it was available but the delay means if it arrives here in a month time or more, then there will be more newer releases that might make the buying decision difficult. Already internet is flush is news of upcoming note3 featuring an unbreakable plastic display. That sounds really tasty to me, however it needs to be seen.

Ah, smartphone buying was never this difficult...
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Went to a shopping mall in China today, octa s4 selling 5198 rmb ($842) and giving a galaxy ace as a gift for free. Chinese version HTC one with removable back cover selling 4888 rmb ($792) .

The Chinese version HTC one feels not as premium as the international when I touch the camera part, it's not flush to the surface, sunk underneath. Behind the cover are the card slots. The cover snaps onto the back very nicely and not loose. But it doesn't align with the top and bottom parts. There's quick settings on the notifications, but I think the icons are too colorful to be on there lol.

And something about the s4, the front glass is flat, unlike the s3. The flash light is like a deep hole on the back cover, right on the spot where my index finger is touching. The pattern on the bezel... Can I say that they've extended the pentile off the screen? :D
[One (M7) General] jlevy73:
Not sure if this was posted but good comparison of the One vs the S4:

http://www.technobuffalo.com/videos/samsung-galaxy-s4-v-htc-one-video/
[One (M7) General] gavinfabl:
Agree mate. And thanks too for such a great thread.

I would add that the HTC One is very polished. Everything looks good from the hardware to the software. And everything is functional and day to day useful.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Wow the Mophie battery case looks amazing!
[One (M7) General] DynamicRam:
HTC One vs HTC One Camera Performance After the Update
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Awesome find thx
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

had myself an ipad 4 the other day......was skeptical in getting in the first place but when playing around with it i was like man this is awesome...then for some reason wifi was not picking up at all...i was like what the freaking hell is going on...anyways after restoring and updating and trying everything under the sun i took it back.....could of replaced it with another one but that really put me off and also when signing in with my apple id kept on asking me to many things and did not recognize my password to start with..

great tablet but a pain to sort out.....can not believe i am saying but i am looking to see what the next nexus 7 will be like...just a shame HTC is not making one to see what it would be like...

oh and the One i heard from the place next to were i work they do specially bundle deals for the One if you get it on Pay as you go...will have to double check today when i get into work
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Pain indeed it keeps asking you for password on every purchase, you have to wait when you open the AppStore as it doesn't multitask, safari runs out of memory quickly and as for wifi it doesn't connect if there is any problem with the router for example if the router network is functional but unable to connect to the Internet the iPad will not let you connect to the router, which you might actually need to do in order to configure or troubleshoot it! its still a very strong wifi in terms of signal

Enjoy it mate, I thought you are going to jailbreak it?

Wish the Nexus 11 had Tegra 4 I would have switched to it from my iPad
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Qualcomm pushes snapdragon brand
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC M4 brings One style, sensibility downmarket
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Aww, ickle didddy One! :fingers-crossed:

Lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Actually its a great plan many people love the 4.3" form factor
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Smart move methinks. I wonder if it will be 16GB/32GB variants. What size is the display on the IP5?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
4 inches
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Would be stupid to release just a 16gb version. They should let their customers choose between a 16 and a 32 version. But then it would probably cannibalize some of the One sales.
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
4 inches I believe.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Tweet from Francois Piednoel (Senior Intel Engineer), talking about Atom Z2580 used in the Lenovo K900 smartphone. Maybe HTC will go with Intel next year..

#Tegra4 numbers are really low for the thermal envelop used in this tablets, on AnTuTu, Clovertrail+ is not too far with 1/4 of the power
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Right...ask him about the GPU I think he would run away ;)

More T4 slides here including detailed GPU diagrams

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/event/20130225_589168.html?ref=twitter
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Check the Xperia Z blacks and view angles vs the HTC One
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
It's a SGX 544MP2 @ 533 MHz, I've seen upto 36 fps in Egypt HD offscreen from test board, so quite competitive.

He posted this Max Payne at 1080P, looks pretty good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=Jtp-LilABDs
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
I am actually very excited about clovertail, however how likely do u think it is for HTC to use this soc or a future version?

Would they not need to recode HTC Sense?
[One (M7) General] Buckylastard:
Gorgeous screen man! Do want!
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
Just wrote this http://captaindbg.com/htc-one-a-complete-round-up/
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
very good screen, i think is the best in market right now!
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
To be honest HTC One X was the best screen till Driod DNA now HTC One ... Hands down to the IPS display.
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
s800 still lose the tegra 4...right now only depends on new exynos and apple a7x will pawn the t4 anot...:laugh:

htc please release t4 smartphone in Jun - July...
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
aint gonna happen..more like November october
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

If then...
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
IMO It's better to wait until they optimize the T4 drivers instead of getting the first T4 device. Because T3 had issues with the initial release with Asus Transformer later they fixed it.
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Still though T4 slated for tablets first most likely and if you get the T4i in smartphones the thing only packs A9s as opposed to the A15s in the T4...
[One (M7) General] tofutown:
This is the most beautiful android phone that I have seen to date. And the specs look amazing too. It almost makes me wanna cry because I'm on a shopping ban... and I desperately want to upgrade my Samsung Galaxy S 4G! :(
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Don't know about you guys but I think sammy will use their Exynos octa core....it's said to come with a PowerVR XGS 544MP3 @533mhz, if so its gpu scores will be very close(if not the same) to the Ipad4 which is the king of 3D now. Now why the heck will sammy leave this for the S600?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6768/samsung-details-exynos-5-octa-architecture-power-at-isscc-13
[One (M7) General] yvibes:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Im guessing many of you saw the samsung galaxy note 8.0 being released at mwc today. The thing that I was surprised by was that it had an IR blaster built in with samsungs very own remote app ? I am thinking that to compete with HTC One in this area they had to do the same and so they did! I am presuming that for this reason they may include it in the gs4 which would be annoying as we wont be able to use IR blaster and sense TV as an advantage if they do.
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
the 1st t4 phone is from ZTE...mid of 2013...

http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/116757/Tegra_4_GPU_Whitepaper_FINALv2.pdf

http://www.nvidia.com/docs/IO/116757/NVIDIA_Quad_a15_whitepaper_FINALv2.pdf

interesting..t4 97 GFLOPS
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

True. Forgot about the ZTE.... Never ever even thought about jumping on that wagon though OEM wise...
[One (M7) General] :
IR Blaster was used in many Samsung Tabs in past. Not for the first time it's being used. Peel remote was also bundled.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Anandtech's new podcast is out.;)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6924/the-anandtech-podcast-episode-20
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Comparison M7 vs M4 via Engadget

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/01/htc-m4-leak-one/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
It's clear to me the media is completely taken by the H1 kinda reminds me of the N1/Desire/HD2 era where HTC was flat out the best thing out there as far as publications were concerned, HTC is back indeed

Lets hope they ramp up production
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
More info about the cyber shot phone

http://vr-zone.com/articles/sony-honami-cyber-shot-camera-phone-details-leaked/19881.html

Sensor sizes compared

Expected to be similar to Lumia 808, ie: more a camera than it is a phone
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
That will presumably give the sensor a pixel-size at least as large as HTC's "ultrapixels", and allow a full 16+MP of useful resolution as well; but I have to assume they'll need to make the phone 40% thicker to do it.So, as you say, probably rather a specialised device, like the 808.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
But it at least runs Android which will make it way more attractive than the pureview.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Is it just me or does the Morphie battery case make the One look a little like the HTC Desire S?
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
The Chinese version of HTC one is actually bulkier... That's why I don't have the same feeling of "wow" when I played with it.

Chinese version thickness: 10.4 mm

International version thickness: 9.3 mm

Chinese version weight: 156g

International version weight: 143g

I would never trade the slimness, unibody for the extra sim slot and data expansion

Edit: dimensions are totally different!

Chinese version: 137.8x69.3x10.4mm

International version: 137.4x68.2x9.3mm
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Maybe it has something to do with it having a removable back and an SD card slot?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is what I said all long...no gap free shell, it will feel more flimsy an therefore a lot less of that shock and awe factor
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
The shell is actually very very tight, but the dimensions and weight are just too bulky. By the way, I saw many people buying it. The mall was full of s4 demo devices, 20+ in the first floor, 40+ in the electronics floor... But everyone was just playing around with it and I saw no one was buying it. The devices get very hot after a while and starts throttling. And I saw some of them already have a burnt screen...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Wish its the same around here the HTC One will go unnoticed thx to the price :rolleyes: although its agreed on as the better device 200$ is a huge difference

As for the Chinese variation it clearly loses some of the charm
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
I want the M4 size, but M7 power, I know that I'm not alone in feeling that :crying::crying:

Also, please can we start trash-talking the One, the bloody price is refusing to come down at all:D
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
The s4 is more expensive than the one here. But both Chinese version
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Hold on May 16? (The date in the screenshot)

If true good for HTC I really hope it does it might lighten the load of the H1 demand and hence the price

Leaked picture shows HTC M4 dressed up as the HTC One Mini – hints at May 16 launch date

I have one problem with this device and that is the snapdragon 400, the 2x kraits are very good but the GPU is not as exciting, it has to deal with 720p after all

[MENTION=4041989]Turbotab[/MENTION] I'm with you mate, can't buy it in here (I can not accept dealers theft) meanwhile my shipment email is still not here...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Guess who wins :)

Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One: The Mother of All Android Battles
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I thought I'll post this clarification since some people seems confused about this

HTC One Developer Edition Explained

This was only released in the USA and the reason is that some US carriers will disable boot loader unlocking, unlike the international versions which can be unlocked trough HTC dev website

It has to be clarified this edition is not SOFF, instead it comes with boot loader unlocked out of box, the same you can do for the standard 32GB contract free version using HTC Dev website, the only thing that favors the Dev edition is the 64GB storage and the fact HTC is officially uploading it's RUUs on the HTC Dev website

Unlike the One X all unlocked HTC Ones can have boot.img flashed using zip file from custom recovery

As for SOFF so far no exploit found, it can be achieved using HTC hardware in certain unofficial places and there are also some pre production builds with SOFF out of box floating around

Hopes this clears it, if this info is incorrect please go ahead and correct me
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
They should of shoved a 320 gpu and micro sd or 32gb. As for the Sony flagship I do not expect it to be a more camera phone than a smart phone. The romoured specs are 5" FHD, Sony amplifier, snapdragon 800, 2gb, android 4.2, 20mp cyber-shot with exmor flash. Just because it is going to be a thick phone or a smart phone with a big hump dosent mean it is just a mere camera phone looking at the specs, if it has a nice design and battery life (which it should do due to its thickness) it will definitely be a very tough competitor to s4 and One if not beat them.

All it needs now is some nice SW features. Sony is doing what Nokia has already done and what HTC are to afraid to do which is increasing the thickness of the phone for a bigger sensor, battery size and compromising on the design although thick phones don't always result in ugly phones. Let's just hope it lives up to its hype. I don't have a favorite phone brand and I am not afraid to give credit were its due if the Sony phone beats HTC one and S4, it beats it.

We already know that the phones that pack the 800 will be much more superior in terms of cpu and gpu even at the same clock speed as 600 smartphones. It is the camera, design, speakers, Mic and battery life which decide if it beats the current best phone HTC One.

http://www.gsmarena.com/alleged_specs_and_info_leaks_about_sony_honami_and_togari-news-5940.php
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
Samsung Galaxy S4 fails to beat HTC One to best mobile title

techradar top 20 rankings (even taking GS4)

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s4-fails-to-beat-htc-one-to-best-mobile-title-1148165
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Well i agree, Sony would aim to beat both H1 and S4..

The Sony and HTC talks reminds me that once HTC used to make phones for Sony :) i have been a Sony fan and lately HTC's too!
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I think slowly Sony will be the phone manufacturer to beat. Ever since they bough Ericsson they only been getting better and better.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
They aim for the third position on sales on date.. which might be actually possible, however from what i notice Sony seems to miss some timing with other android manufacturers. Lets take the example of XZ, it is a nice phone but the only big issue which makes the phone live low on the market is the old age processor at this time in the market and their release timing were little too early although that is a strategy by itself. If the new Sony phone is coming out/announced in the next one month, i think S4 might take a hit in their numbers.

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Woot! The only Top 20 list that i had known - Techradar and they have been having it for some quite some time, its definitely is a pride to have the H1 stand up there

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S4 is little costlier say 5% here in the UAE ..