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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
some samsung fans will disagree but here are the facts

the SGS3 UI was broken after JB, stuttering, lagging and stalling, according to Samsung own words: project butter was not/half implemented

the One X UI is full 60fps, locked at 90% of the UI, project butter triple buffering fully implemented, extremely speedy even in stock, remember how Brian noted the very fast NAND used by HTC on the One? well the same story on the One X it had the fastest NAND in 2012

as for gaming initially SGS3 rapped Tegra 3 in gaming

but THD support grew considerably, plus Tegra 3 support in general got a lot better, examples Nova3 1.0.5 update, MC4 and Temple run 2/OZ and the gorgeous collection of THD games, certain games like NFSMW and mostly GL games remain better on the SGS3

all you need is a custom kernel on the JB One X and gaming will fly

battery life is in the SGS3 favour however their maximum screen brightness is literally half the One X

camera is no comparison on my opinion, the One X rules it especially with it's fast shutter burst, HDR daylight and the insane low light HDR ability
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Unless intel drop prices I dont think there will be that much of a change tbh.

Bay Trail has ****ty graphics and intel reserve will be reserving GT3 for i5 / i7u so to get a decent wintel tablet the price will still be €700+

Thats why I think Temash is the perfect solution, similar CPU performance + HD 4000 GPU.

If manufacturers can put a decent screen on the machines & undercut the iPad then im game !

In the office right now but il find some benches this evening.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One screen protection gets serious with Spigen SGP’s Steinheil

now this is a screen protector i would consider :good: (its never for me)
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
This has some problems with capasitive buttons, people on accessories forum reported. I wouldn't recommend buying it before asking.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
if there were really capacitive problems, i will manually cut out the capacitive button part in shape of a small cube , to allow direct touch for the capacitive buttons
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
without GPU at least HD4000 level non of these tablets matter to be honest

digital foundry tested the surface pro for gaming and it's surprising

also check this HD4000 vs Trinity
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yes , literally raped Full HoX vs S3 comparison on JB <-- the comparison was done by me and my cousin who owns s3

Exactly :good:

Anyway this is wrong forum to discuss this lol.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
exactly so unquote it ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
XDA Molded Case for HTC One Available Now

HTC One news roundup: unlockable bootloaders, supply issue improvements and more
[One (M7) General] JayMore:
I never understand this. It's Gorilla Glass, why would you need screen protection?? :confused: I have a one year old HOX and I have ONE microscopic scratch that cannot even be seen while using it. I'm sure the One's glass is even better...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
PUREVIEW VS ULTRAPIXEL: THE NOKIA LUMIA 920 VS THE HTC ONE CAMERA COMPARISON
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes ofcourse but for people who like to abuse their phone more and can't be bothered looking out, extra protection is useful

this cover seems to do a good job at being transparent

but some users reported problems with touch buttons
[One (M7) General] XxVcVxX:
Mine has tons of scratches and thats like only 3 months of being naked. Now I can't even resell my phone.

---------- Post added at 12:09 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:08 AM ----------

NFSMW, Nova, and MC4 are all way smoother on my friends S3 as well as 2K13.

---------- Post added at 12:10 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 AM ----------

S3 interface is smoother than One X, I would even go to say way smoother, but apps launch quite a bit slower and TW looks ugly.
[One (M7) General] GerBBAR14_c:
What if the situation where you got that had happened 17 times?
[One (M7) General] JayMore:
I guess we'll see in 17 years. :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
wrong we are talking JB vs JB

without changing the CPU governor the One X sucks at gaming you know that, MC4 has less effects than the S3 but runs almost 60fps, Nova 3 was just recently updated with much better T3 performance and NFSMW i already said its faster along most GL games

anyway enough comparison please
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
waw hold on people the HTC 606w is actually a quad

Android-powered HTC 606w smartphone image leaks

this means it's not krait, a quad S400 is 4x A7
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One for AT&T and Sprint: what's different?
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
That's one part of the octa :D

Edit: I see 8 megapixels and qhd... Where's the ultrapixel and 720p?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC, Huawei, LG and Samsung join Power Matters Alliance, AT&T pledges wireless charging by 2014

Apple shares tumble to lowest level since 2011

Dual SIM HTC E1 603e available in China

Samsung vs HTC: Samsung cheats, or is it better?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-04-17/samsung-ends-anonymous-web-reviews-amid-taiwan-probe.html
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Blog: Tips & Tricks for Using HTC Zoe
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
UnleashThePhones Review: THE HTC ONE IS THE NOKIA-MADE ANDROID PHONE WE’VE ALWAYS WANTED
[One (M7) General] joewong1991:
Ahaha I have had so much fun today at work with this news I don't usually go round bashing but today I just had to rub this into everyone who was taking the mik out my hox because it had bad reviews I kept telling them it's false you can clearly see. bam today carma got them back :D
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
I don't know if anyone else noticed in that article, but it started $837,000 PER INCIDENT. That could rack up really fast to a very large sum. Hopefully that is right as an $837,000 fine is chump change for Sammy. I say let them be an example to all as to what will happen to underhanded dealings.(as long as it is true, though I don't like them much fair should be fair)

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
samsung could pay apple 1 billion dollars, 800k dollars? samsung will just throw it in ur face and say take it lol
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
One funny thing out of this whole business, people seeing the articles about samsung are now wondering what the HTC One phone is that samsung are so scared of ;)
[One (M7) General] jesr:
HTC ONE Review by Droid Life

HTC ONE Review by GottaBeMobile

HTC ONE Q&A Part 1

Tech editors are loving using the ONE.

Another camrena comparison

Camera comparison in low light:

Example:

ONE

Lumia 920

Iphone5
[One (M7) General] patato2:
I saw someone said he walked into a restaurant and did the same thing(switched to ESPN or something). He got caught by boss's wife lol. But instead of throwing him out, she noticed One and said " oh I am waiting for my pre-order!" and start playing with the phone. He left unharmed. Lucky guy.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Ok everyone are we done with this silly argument? or should I invite our friendly mod? :)

Back on topic please
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this my last warning before i invite moderator action

you guys are unable to control yourselves! :rolleyes:

any further post about this will be reported
[One (M7) General] broncogr:
Thread cleaned.

Please stay on topic
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@Goku

The One is still scorching expensive in Lebanon, can't afford it yet (around 1k$)
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Looking forward to that:

http://pocketnow.com/2013/04/18/microbatteries
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
You guys clearly have your own personal, non-literal meaning of the word "literally". :)
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Darn. Biggest telco here in Sweden (Telia) now has release of the One posted in may and Samsung G4 by end of april.

To bad HTC dropped the ball here in the nordics.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Shares of HTC higher on foreign institutional buying
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
anyone noticed how we have much less "HTC is a dying company" posts lately? :)

do you think its related to a certain "Scandal" ? :)
[One (M7) General] Wafflez_SE:
I have a booked htc one from telia (Sweden) and my date is 25/4 now....

Skickat från min MT15i via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] shox22:
No, cause the news about Q1 came out 2 weeks ago. Its always quiet shortly after the news were released (2-3 days of flaming).

If htc´s 2nd quarter again will be bad, we´ll see the "dying company" storys again for 2-3 days.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Mmm I wonder if HTC is a zombie :eek:
[One (M7) General] JayMore:
More like a phoenix bird. :laugh:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Want this for my One!

http://www.androidcentral.com/moga-pro-review-must-have-gamers

Nice to see that they tested it with a HOX :D
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Two htc One commercial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9A8NnBbW_A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nSCcIdjiys

Boomsound (Taiwan version)

"Front speakers are superior"
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Anyone noticed the cool new GL benchmark results page? also seems its going to be renamed to GFX bench?

http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device

The SGS4 S600 (4.2.2) is scoring the exact same as the iPad 4 in offscreen TRex test - 16.8fps

The HTC One S600 (4.1.2) scores - 14.8

while the SGS4 Octa (4.2.2) scores - 12.5 !!

curiously the Geforce Titan scores 872fps in the same test, 51x :cool:

in Egypt HD offscreen:

Tegra 4 project shield @54.5fps

554MP4 iPad4 @54.4fps

544MP3 Octa SGS4 @43fps

Adreno320 s600 SGS4 (4.2.2) @40fps

Adreno320 s600 HTC One (4.1.2) @36.8fps
[One (M7) General] strip419:
I don't wanna say I told you so, but we can obviously see the 544MP3 score higher than the andreno 320.

This is the S4 running android 4.2.2 with the drvers that will save the ONE as you said. Fanboyism makes you loose touch with reality sometimes my friend. We are yet to see what the driver will do for the ONE, but I doubt the ONE will beat it.

I will also like to remind you that thermal issues are still not confirmed in the octa S4( which scored about 28,000 in antutu and over 3400 in geekbench) am not hating but please keep up your credibility and don't let fanboyism take over you.

You keep predicting good things for the ONE and its chip( as if the S4 never used the same chip) and keeping predicting and assuming negatives for the octa. I am quite happy its turning out to be the opposite of your predictions.

Sammy does a great job when it comes to pure processing power and multitasking the SGS3 was better than the HOX in both regards and the Note 2 is yet to be rivaled.

Please give credit to whoever deserves it.

If I got a call whilst typing this I might have started all over again. HOX is bad @ multitasking.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you failed to notice, the OCTA is scoring much less in the heavy shader TRex test, so in terms of advanced benchs Adreno is better plus the octa will most likely throttle faster

The TRex is the newer more advanced more power hungry test and the 544MP3 is in the second page of results

really mate your behavior is not acceptable
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Here's the international version.

[YOUTUBE]QndUCcObGXM[/YOUTUBE]

@ hamdir, so Adreno 320 is turning out to be a good surprise and a competitive gpu for 2013, right?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its right there in the NEWER TRex 2.7 test which replaced the 2.5 Egypt HD test, Adreno 320 is ruling

check the first results page its all Adreno 320 devices

meanwhile in 3D mark Adreno 320 is ruling as well

so yes its a pleasant surprise

strip jumped the gun at the first version on my post before i added the results from Trex, but he was impatient as always

Qualcomm promised the ES 3.0 drivers for the One to come soon we have enough evidence from all s600 devices running 4.2.2 to suggest the 4.2.2/ES 3.0 drivers will solve the missing puzzle for the One in specific, its not my words its also both HTC Dev and Qualcomm OFFICIAL ANSWERS, not to mention the latest Adreno 320 open source drivers actually REQUIRES Android 4.2.2!

PowerVR 5xx is an aging architecture whether we like it or relying solely on die area and we see it loose its overhead in the newer 3D mark and GL tests

I dont see any clear advantage to this GPU in terms of performance its more or less equal to adreno 320 with the only exception Adreno 320 is more advanced, versatile and dramatically less power hungry

even if i am to consider the SGS4 i would go for the S600 (which is a higher quality bin) SGS4 without a second thought

We have seen gameplay videos clearly showing the Octa struggling in MC4 1080p and RR3 unlike the S600
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Omg wrong forum :D

to clarify: i posted a quote that was supposed for the sgs4 benchmark thread.
[One (M7) General] sirmims:
This might have been answered already but will the unlocked version be compatible with Verizon?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Here is a comparisson between the sgs4s and the ones camera (+padfone infinity and xperia z):

http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/tal...16gb-801e-新-HTC-One-New-HTC-One-新一-M7-review/

Shutter speed and iso:

Cat picture:

One: 1/120 sec, f/2, ISO 169

SGS4: 1/32 sec, f/2.2, ISO 125

Bear:

One: 1/30 sec, f/2, ISO 130

SGS4: 1/32 sec, f/2.2, ISO 200

Flower:

One: 1/30 sec, f/2, ISO 180

SGS4: 1/16 sec, f/2.2, ISO 200

Two men on the bank:

One: 1/30 sec, f/2, ISO 185

SGS4: 1/16 sec, f/2.2, ISO 250

Shop:

One: 1/40 sec, f/2, ISO 125

SGS4: 1/32 sec, f/2.2, ISO 200

Sadly the information about the iso and shutter speed of the last two pictures are missing of the sgs4. As they are pretty good, i think the shutterspeed was extremly slow. They for sure made the pictures on a stand.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
No, you'll need to get the verizon one.

M.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Even Sammobile posted a piece of those news, I find it commendable:

Samsung Taiwan apologies for the fake HTC One reviews

But you can see that other sites like phonearena or gsmarena are still quiet. Gsmarena even brought up again to the front page the SGS4 review because they retested some things with a "final retail unit". What about HTC ONE and Zperia Z final retail units updates in their respective reviews?

Moving on, here's another good review from Mobilesyrup:

HTC One Review

Highlights:

Camera

Video

Conclusion
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
By the way, I don't agree any criticism on keyboard. I've been using stock keyboard on One S for like a year now and it became so perfect because you know it adapts to your writing style with the words you save. It is just about being patient and writing more and more. :D

and i didn't find swiftkey to my liking anyway. it doesn't work well in turkish maybe, i dont know.
[One (M7) General] strip419:
I agree it's normal, cos in a device forum you would expect a lot of fanboyism. But it's taking a childish turn over here.

When a review goes against the ONE you bash it.If its for the ONE or against the SGS4, then its the best review ever.

Again I have seen some users post pictures they have taken with the ONE and praise it as if it was the best they have ever seen meanwhile deep inside we all know its not worth the hype and this whole "ultrapixel" thing just entered beta stage. Pictures I have seen are either blurry or lack lots of detail, low light images look red all the time and are the grainiest ever.

On the other hand the S4 outdoors are very good and low light shots (from a 13MP camera) are not that bright but have better detail.

Nobody has been bold enough to admit that the ONE. Actually has a plastic band sandwiched between the upper and lower aluminum surfaces.

Then comes the prophesy of future updates improving almost every fault we know of, as if its assured. We have seen phones go from bad to worst after updates. HTC has one of the worst records when it comes to updating phones(we all hope that will change).

I am sorry if am annoying anybody, but this whole "follow blindly" thing is not right. If a device is not good in a place or is below the hype it has received let us say so, rather than keep bashing anything that talks bad about this device. Its very childish.

Come to think of it, how many times have you taken pictures in the dark. And since when did storing large photos become an issue on a 32gb phone, and what's with the myth of needing a camera MP close to the MP of your screen or pixels are wasted( a 720p movie looks great on a 720p screen, a 1080p on the same screen is better) same applies to photos. The ONE camera fetches a lot of light and that's about all, in every other aspect it suffers.
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
I agree to that. The One S got a performance boost and feels more snappier than ever after having JB. So i would disagree that HTC is terrible in updating their phones. They may be taking a little longer with their updates (maybe because they want to minimize bugs, and they're also optimizing the update as well) but when they do, expect that there would be a great difference and what you can call an 'upgrade'.
[One (M7) General] aliveon2legs:
I know things have probably changed since then, but I got my Froyo update on my EVO 4G about the same time as my friend bought hit Samsung Epic. I think it was at minimum another 6 months before he finally got Froyo. It might have been much longer than that. I know it felt like forever, to him. He was not pleased.

At any rate, it will be much easier for HTC to get updates out rapidly now, since they're pushing one phone as their primary device across all networks and national borders.
[One (M7) General] john291:
Damm i hate to say it but the galaxy s4 looks absolutly the best:(
[One (M7) General] jayv1717:
Nope I like the ones pics better.. gs4 is over saturated.. I prefer more natural looking pictures.. it also is way too zoomed in.. like back up a lil or bring the one closer
[One (M7) General] cronus101:
That's true, the multitasking on this phone at stock is pathetic.

Could be because of the desire and dhd fiascos.
[One (M7) General] jotha:
Thread cleaned

Had to remove some posts for obvious trolling.

This thread is under intensive care now. Should the fanboy-wars continue like in the last days, it's days are numbered. Either objectively discuss this phone and compare FEATURES with others or just stay out. No foul language (also not bleeped out), no flaming, no fanboy talk (this and that is better, was better, will always be better). That is no base for civilized discussion.

If you are not able to do that, this thread will be considered off topic and be closed.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Thats due to the slow shutter speed of the sgs4. They probably did they pictures on a stand. Now try the same pictures without a stand.

You will stuggle to get a clean shot with the samsung. On the other side, the ones shutter speed is double as fast AND you get the ois.

I´d say in the real world you would not have a stand with you. ;)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
HTC fans, if you feel a user (no name mentioned) of a certain age:D is trying to derail this thread, and ultimately cause it to be closed, then there is a simple / polite action.

> Click on the user's name > 'click' Add to Ignore List

We can then enjoy this thread in peace, then no matter what is written by them, we won't see it. Simple, effective, polite, flame-free.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Decent comparison

For anyone who's worried about how the One will stand up to being dropped.

HTC One vs iPhone 5 Drop Test

[YOUTUBE]KwE9PGDnlvs[/YOUTUBE]

Has this already been posted?
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Yes, it has.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Goes on sale in Australia as of monday, preorders shipping and stock available from carriers and a few major retailers. Got mine on preorder coming with free beats solo's :) Hope to have monday or tuesday.

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Nvidia scores sole Tegra 4 design win, courtesy of ZTE: One is better than nothing
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Meh. Samsung giving free wireless charging pad and case or audio dock.

whereas HTC didn't even announced their release yet in Turkey. They don't care enough about mid-range markets in the world. You can't win just by US and Europe.
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Yeah, I am thinking of the same thing. The most significant improvement with ONE camera should be the chance of getting a successful shot. all the light collection and OIS are for this purpose. My phone has a 13MP cam, but it's quite often that I got a blur shot, even it looks good on a phone screen.

Also if I use a stand, I will definitely use it with a DSLR, not a phone. With a stand, higher megapixels will have its advantage.

I completely agree with Ones' strategy that phone should be used to take a quick shot. But it's also not a concept to be promoted easily.
[One (M7) General] skr_xd:
HTC are giving away media link hd for free here in UAE.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
is it released in UAE? price?
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Have you guys seen the Nokia 700? I think Nokia joined the copycats now.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Dunno of this has been posted but it´s another example of how well the One handles recording loud audio in concert:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zifeniszfM

(In the post on youtube is a link to a recording made by the SGS3 done in the same concert)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just a reminder the plastic band in the middle is a part of single uni-body piece with the back, both of them are molded together and hence uni-body as explained in the anandtech review

the speaker metal parts are covers added in the last steps of assembly

so the unibody/zerogap is only the back metal plate with the plastic

and there is no real reason to re-study things when it's all in the Anandtech review

but for this i think we can blame HTC for mis-information

http://www.htctheoneconcerts.com/

they call it the "all-metal" HTC One, which is clearly not the case, its better called "more-metal" or "all-metal back"

anyway this design was appreciated by the entire tech world so really we are beating a dead horse
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
Yup it is false advertising really.

The zero gap works as advertised since that refers to the machined aluminium body with the injected plastic as you mentioned.

That is why there are so many complaints about the tiny gap at the top, people expect there to be no gaps at all due to the "zero gap" term (which is impossible!), I bet if HTC never said that, that tiny gap would not be an issue at all and hardly anyone would be moaning. I could see/feel several gaps on my S and even more on every other phone.........

As you said the speaker cover parts are not part of the CNC machine, they are stuck on with glue thus not part of the zero gap body.

HTC should have never used that term, caused more problems.

Either way, they have said that the gap shouldn't be there and that is is/will be fixed. You can't fault HTC and their service, they admits to their problems and do everything they can to fix it as soon as possible, just like they did with the one X and its issues with the wifi, screen flex and the black one S with the chipping issues, most other companies wouldn't dare to admit to it being a problem and not try to fix/improve the problem or will do so but "silently" i.e. apple with the iphone 5
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
I don't think it caused as much problems as you think. This is a metallic phone and people are loving it so far. Only smartphone nerds like us notice such details. :D
[One (M7) General] Terminator19:
On other forums, people have returned their phone solely due to that tiny gap at the top and because they could fit a piece of paper between it..........:confused:

But yeah, the "average joes" wouldn't care at all, doubt they have even noticed........
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Btw I can understand getting it replaced for tiny gap (I'd for sure) but it doesn't worth returning, sorry.

Zoe, Boomsound and Sense UI is making me buy this phone. I think photo qualities are good enough to buy. To be honest I really don't think HTC would have taken the risk to have a bad camera on a flagship, otherwise they wouldn't have risked using ultrapixel.