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[Greenify] 1300l:
I use a battery monitor. Still, greenefy will only realy help when the phone is in deep sleep, where you wont use even the ones you heavily use.

Even if android need to reload the app in to RAM, it can actualy save even if you use the app much.

It is like when you will park for 15 mins your car.

You will keep it running on idle or turn the engine off. Sure the engine will use fuel to re-start again.. but over all when you will save some fuel if you dont let it on.

Same for apps, even if it dont save much battery, it wont drain more to reload. Will at least be equal. But on deep sleep it will save.
[Greenify] nurps:
Might be a stupid question but how do I reconnect a cut-off wakeup?
[Greenify] jacknicholson:
Select the app, hit the three dot menu at the bottom right and choose "Reattach its wake-up paths".
[Greenify] meyerweb:
No, that's completely wrong, and your analogy with a running car shows a lack of understanding of how RAM works. When you shut the engine in your car off, it is off, completely. It uses no gasoline to maintain that state. There's no such thing as turning RAM "off."

Every byte of RAM is constantly refreshed, as long as the phone is turned on, whether it is "in use" or not.There's really no such thing as "empty" RAM. Even if you've killed the app that was using that RAM, the bytes of RAM used by that app still contain the same data until some other app requests memory. And that RAM, whether it contains an active app, bytes left over from an killed app, or nothing but zeros, is repeated refreshed, and the same amount of energy is used to refresh that RAM regardless of what is in it.

An inactive app uses no CPU cycles beyond that needed to refresh RAM. Reloading an app from ROM into RAM, however, uses much more power, as it involves the CPU, reading ROM, and writing RAM. Repeatedly killing, and restarting, an app is very bad for your battery life. Only if the app runs continuously in the background (which well written apps do not), or continuously accesses the network, will it use more power to leave it running than to kill and restart it.

And that's why everyone needs to analyze their own apps battery usage. An app that is used frequently, but remains idle when not in use, is not a good candidate for greenifying.
[Greenify] FcoEnrique:
Jut... don't :rolleyes:
[Greenify] TechnoSparks:
Apps does not hibernating

Hello [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]

I am having a problem with Greenify. I am sure this happened for a very long time though I just noticed it recently. It seems to be a common question, but really, I need this one to be considered.

The current version of Greenify does not automatically hibernate my apps after turning the screen off. It is really weird and I have no idea how it happened. Before your latest version (I am not so sure, it might be the one before the latest), it worked really really well. I have done many things including uninstalling and reinstalling everything, disabled xposed module and reactivated it, regranted root access, and even uninstalled the donation app but it is just do not work! The "hibernate now" shortcut however worked as usual.

I am using a stock ROM of Xperia SP. Trust me the stock ROMs of Sony aren't modified heavily like the other counterparts. My phone is rooted and has Xposed installed

Could you find a way to fix this? I am really into this app, however this problem really frustrates me. It is insanely weirder when it works before however now it couldn't. I am willing to help on you troubleshooting this.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Thanks heavens for some good useful advice for the first time in many pages. :good: Read and understand people, this is correct fact, not uneducated rumor and speculation like most of the "advice" here.
[Greenify] Katia Eu:
Help!!!

I simply love this app, but when I have installed it in my last 3 roms, after I grant supersu permits, it won´t go pass the "Hibernating" screen, it just gets stuck there. Have tried reinstalling, have tried with roms that have exposed framework included, my current rom doesn´t use exposed, and still I cannot get it to work and I'm desperate!!! Please, any suggestions are more than welcome. I own a Galaxy S4 i337m.
[Greenify] 1300l:
Ofcourse it dont work as a car, but the analogy still apply.

Even thoug you are right on how ARM works, keep apps running, that will get your GPS location, use data for refresh and the CPU will keep it running all the time still uses more battery then if you let the CPU alone and some times using more energy to try to "wake" the apps.

For me it work, may not for every one. But it worth a try.

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My 4 days of heavy use in a single charge beg to differ. Not that will work for every one.
[Greenify] FcoEnrique:
So... being logical, just turn of gps and save more battery that hibernating the app that is using it every minute.
[Greenify] 1300l:
Yes, but other apps use also the internet.

It is a question of what save more battery. Let the CPU and OS work as its intend, that is keep it running on a lower CPU use state... or have some higher cpu use when it try to wake but no use when it isnt.

For my phone and my use, it work better the second way. Specialy on deep sleep.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Greenify: A key benefit explained

I've hardly ever seen it discussed, but there is another benefit to an app such as Greenify which I appreciate. It can help you control the number of active processes. Why? Well, for example, with my device and rom, I have a 50 app limit. With out getting technical, that means even if I have enough ram to run 51+ apps, the OS will kill one to make room for another after 50 has been reached.

And there are many small system processes on a fresh boot, that occupy this limit. Also, bloatware and apps that are only used once in a blue moon, need not occupy this 50 app limit. For older devices under 1gb ram, this limit is 30 or less. (or whatever it is)

By keeping the number of active process down to it's optimal low count, there is a better chance that certain apps that need or should stay in memory at all times...will. This helps lets say, your Contacts to load fast, or if you use a 3rd party app to control LED notifications, then there is less chance this app will get killed and kicked out of memory.

Of course, there is also a priority sequence as to what gets killed first, or if the OS starts to run out of free ram to run an app/game... then it needs to kill some processes which it deems appropriate, to reclaim ram, regardless of the active process count. Lastly, it's also influenced by the System OOM, Background Services and App Protectors such as the module "App Settings". But none the less, by Greenifying those rarely or none used apps (or alternatively freezing/uninstalling them), you leave headroom so that the app limit either never reaches 50, or takes a long and slow time getting there. So if you are the type of person who doesn't actively use too many different apps on a day to day basis, you could theoretically keep your core apps loaded in ram for a long time.

For commonly used apps that behave, as was stated a few posts ago, it is probably counter productive to hibernate them unless you know for a fact that they consume an unreasonable amount of battery when they are not being intentionally or actively used by you. I'm not a programmer, my terminology may not be perfect here, but over the years, I have tested this all out myself and it's sound. If I have missed anything or made an error, please jump in and I will correct the information so that others may benefit. :D
[Greenify] bflmpsvz:
Hi, in version 2.4 (build 1) I have "Greenifying system apps" experimental feature disabled. Is this licensing problem or hw(sw) limitation? On rooted Kitka 4.4.3....the other experimantal features are unlocked.
[Greenify] khngpham:
I got some fc. 7105 4.4.2 odex
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
Hi [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]

after updating the today from Play Store some expert features don't work even though I have installed the donation pakage :confused:

Have these functions been deactivated ?

Thank you!
[Greenify] Bogeyof:
Got FC too on 2 devices, if I start greenify 2.4.1 and want to hibernate system apps (system apps with a dialog, where I set them to force hibernate)... Note 3 with 4.4.2 and LG 4XHD with 4.3.1
[Greenify] Conte Mascetti:
Don't be afraid! Those unselectable functions are for unrooted devices! Just slide down and you'll see options for rooted devices, as usual! ;)

From GNexus
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
Ok. Thanks for the hint :) Now I see it :D
[Greenify] trawel:
Is it somehow possible to have xposed features without using xposed? I don't want to install xposed but some features are nice to have and I don't know if it's the only way to have them.
[Greenify] dhampire:
I understood and delete comments. sorry.

Sent from Lenovo S930
[Greenify] muadsoft:
+1 here
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Well, if "of course it don't work like a car," why did you use that analogy? What you say above is true ONLY if the app in question uses GPS and data when in the background. Very few apps do this. That's why willy-nilly greenifying apps without a good reason is a bad idea. Instead of killing dozens of apps that don't impact battery life, do the analysis to find out which apps are using battery, and greenify those. That way you get all the benefits of killing poorly behaved apps without the disadvantages of killing apps that don't need to be, and possibly making things worse.
[Greenify] whoamigriffiths:
Have a look at the post 5or6 places above yours. There's a great explanation there
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Was your original purchase of the donate version from Amazon? If so, updating with the Play Store version will overwrite the donation package version from Amazon. You'll have to reinstall the Amazon version, I think. OasisFeng has been struggling with Amazon to get the updated version on their site. Search this thread for Amazon and you'll see a number of posts about it.

If that's not the situation, then I don't know what the problem might be.

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No. That's why they're called xposed features.
[Greenify] TheEmpathicEar:
I have root and am seeing the same thing?
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
No the donation package was from Play Store....another one a few posts back has replied that it is normal because these deactivated are for unrooted devices...

EDIT: Hmmmm but "Greenify systems apps" is deactivated too..and there it says that it needs the donation package...so whats the right explaination now? :confused:
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
It might be a bit confusing. "Boost mode" disables "Root Mode" option, "Root Mode" disables "Automated Hibernation" and "Greenifying System Apps (non-root mode)",

I think hiding these unnecessary options should be better.
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
Ahhh Ok. Thank you :) And what is the best setting? Should I disabled boost mode?
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Apparently I haven't gotten the notification for the latest update yet. My screen doesn't look like that....
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Uncheck root mode if you want to use those. Things have changed, think and test first, then panic and OMG! posts
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
Who has panicked and posted OMG post ;) ... I only have been confused because there are disabled but it has been clarified....

Gesendet von meinem SM-G900F mit Tapatalk
[Greenify] bflmpsvz:
Yeah
[Greenify] LionheartSilver:
[ERROR] FC

Hello [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]!

After updating today, i'm experiencing some random "Greenify has stopped working" from the app. Sometimes when i try to hibernate pending apps. Sometimes even when i try do add some new apps to Greenified apps list.

I have already:

1) Cleared app data/cache from Greenify Donation

2) Cleared app data/cache from Greenify

3) Uninstalled both apps

4) Rebooted

5) Installed both apps again

6) Repeated steps 1 and 2

7) Open Greenify, tried to greenify some apps and then sudden FC, "Greenify has stopped working".

Any idea why would it be? My device is Rooted.

Thanks in advance!
[Greenify] Silentbob999:
You can send the report on that error message. The dev will receive it.

You can also do a logcat.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Greenify] 1300l:
I use the analogy as it is also a situation where there are two ways of think. If use very low fuel over 15 mins actualy save fuel over use much more to start it later.

Also what app dont use at least the data on background now days, specialy apps who are ment to be running. Even apps such as agenda widgets do it and wake sync.

No app i greenify for my use is without a good reason, but some times greenefy some key apps is a good idea, specialy if you have a lower end phone.
[Greenify] LionheartSilver:
And I use the analogy:

IF you like the app, use the app

ELSE dont use the app

Moderators, could we please keep the topic as a Help/Support/Greenify related topics, and not analogys?.
[Greenify] 1300l:
So you have no argument and there for you appeal to ignorance.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
There is an ignore list for a reason. Place that person in it and be done with the continual off topic bickering.
[Greenify] meyerweb:
This discussion IS about a Greenify topic. It's about the best way to use Greenify, not whether to use it at all.
[Greenify] asdfasdfvful:
Starting to have more issues with the donation package.. It won't let me select certain options. Yes I reinstalled. Yes I cleared cache
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Uncheck Boost mode, then uncheck Root mode and you can get those. It is either/or not and. The greyed out thing says it is for non root, so uncheck root.
[Greenify] asdfasdfvful:
Thanks. I wanted to check the system box but I guess it isn't necessary as I had something checked below
[Greenify] Manbot27:
Facebook is constantly being woken up by SwiftKey, is this normal for other people or is it just me?
[Greenify] gregferns:
Try reading a few posts above yours....
[Greenify] eurochild:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]

I have a tasker task to run on device shutdown that includes a "hibernate all" greenified apps, while the device shuts down the toast notification shows that has greenified apps but when i boot up again i find those apps running.
[Greenify] Korgy:
Think about it. When you start it up it reboots everything. You need to make a task that when booting up it hibernates.

That's not a question for the developer, thats a programming question for yourself.
[Greenify] Mad Marty:
My guess would be that you're using SwiftKey Cloud, disable that and I think it won't wake FB anymore
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
No, you should keep Boost mode and use Xposed-based feature version if possible, to gain full power.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Task on device shutdown? I think that's unstable in most cases, due to the shutdown nature of Android. And when your device boots up, sometimes greenified apps will be woken by others in boot-up running.
[Greenify] DirkStorck:
Ok. Thank you! will use your adviced settings :)
[Greenify] cornelito:
After update to 2.4.1 I'm experiencing FC as well. Any solution? Thx
[Greenify] Silentbob999:
Got the last update of SwiftKey today. It do the same thing for me. That wasn't the case before the update. It should stop by disabling the cloud or explicitly Not learning from Facebook but I did not explore a solution yet (did not notice the issue was there before)

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk

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Edit : it's already Not learning from Facebook... They probably just decide to spy on us ?

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Greenify] Manbot27:
I tried disabling cloud, it still wakes Facebook up, I even logged out of Facebook and it kept waking it. I had to use the experimental wake us tracker to cut off SwiftKey from waking it, seems like the only way to stop it.
[Greenify] Silentbob999:
Was about to mention the same thing.

Will see if the cut off impair the "new" Swiftkey (it's now free by the way)

Lol edit again. Better to leave as it is and reattach the cutoff. The cut off is for the attributionIdProvider (generic to many app)

Swiftkey is the first app I see to trigger without been explicitly connected to Facebook by myself... Weird.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Greenify] Manbot27:
Ahh okay, I guess I'll freeze Facebook in Titanium backup until I'm ready to use it.
[Greenify] elitetoniv:
im experiencing this issue... swiftkey wakes facebook...
[Greenify] matrixzone:
Same here.lots of fc's all over.
[Greenify] Smultie:
2.4.1?
[Greenify] dhampire:
forced close

Report. After update to 2.4.1, It closed forcibly (not 100% but over 90%) especially add apk to sleep list (almost 100%).

Lenovo s930 JB 4.2.2 (rooted) / greenify donation version
[Greenify] Smultie:
Last version is 2.3.1 or am I missing something?
[Greenify] hisname:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

cool app, I saw this app on Android Central reviews

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Need your help for logcat

If you are experiencing that Google Maps resist hibernation, please mail me (the email on Play store) with the output of this adb command: (after you see Maps is waken from hibernation)

adb logcat -b events -v time -d | find "com.google.android.apps.maps"

If possible, DO NOT launch Maps manually before capturing logcat, to keep the log clean.
[Greenify] scream4cheese:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

+1

Although keyboard doesn't drain any power (or maybe it does but not much).
[Greenify] anerik:
Says kensomanpow but i wrote that o.o

Dude that dude copied my entire post...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38198704&postcount=5
[Greenify] scream4cheese:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

What really matter is that we all the same thing.
[Greenify] johnny.costa:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

If i force hibernate it still stay on pending list

Enviado do meu MZ605
[Greenify] Felimenta97:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Yes, I removed it.
[Greenify] oae08:
How long does it take to re hibernate the apps on the list again. Theoretically it says as soon as you turn of the screen, but I tried opening some apps that i have put on the greenify list, then i turned off the screen for about 2-3mins and turned it back on, and the apps still didnt go back to hibernate.

Also i realized that it wont re hibernate no matter how long, until it is removed from ram? :confused:
[Greenify] ohurvitz:
Background apps with active notifications

Can you add the feature to skip hibernating apps while they have active notifications?

The scenario I have is this: Pandora keeps a service in the background forever that I want to get rid of. But if I set Pandora to hibernate, it would stop running in the background while I listen to music through it. While It is playing music it has an active notification so you can interact with it, so hibernating it only when it has no notification would allow it to play music, but remove it when it is idle.
[Greenify] spupuz:
R: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

You must wait at least five minutes

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Greenify] w1040:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Is it okay to greenify google play services?
[Greenify] spupuz:
don't think so :)
[Greenify] w1040:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Why?
[Greenify] vishal24387:
This is the best app which force android device to function exactly like I always wanted. Now I am not facing any issue related to un-necessary apps which stay in background as service and eats lot of ram and battery and make the device lag.

Really thank you developer for providing developing such a brilliant app :)
[Greenify] Salman Babri:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

This. I've the same opinion. :)
[Greenify] spupuz:
in fact i can also assume that greenified application are update normally by playstore this has happened to me for google chrome beta in my case!
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
About 3 minutes after screen turns off. If you always see apps "pending", that might be an issue. Can you put them into hibernation manually (by clicking the "pause" button on action bar) ?
[Greenify] Letsan:
This +1

The app is great, used to hibernate Facebook but it's still too slow to launch. It keeps many other apps off the memory.

((why the need for such a big signature image ? ))
[Greenify] oae08:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

From the day i installer this app ive realised a huge audio out_2 wakelock. Is this related? Can someone confirm?

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Yes i can put them to hibernation manually but i want it to happen automatically
[Greenify] mettleh3d:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Network is a bigger offender than casual wakelocks. Facebook is an offender of both. Having keyboard in memory is smart as stated correctly above by soldier, greenify should hibernate apps that constantly use data (fb) but not for your notification critical apps (weather, whatsapp).
[Greenify] Looki75:
Hi Madproducer!

Let me try to reformulate...

You mean a new function, a kind of switch that would enable to "pause" Greenify, right?

Some kid of ON/PAUSE switch that would have the following function:

ON:

Greenify behaves exactly in the same way that we know today

PAUSE:

Greenify stays in memory, and does not hibernate anything at STANDBY event, but makes sure that:

All apps that were hibernated at the moment "PAUSE" was engaged stay hibernated

All apps that were not hibernated at the moment "PAUSE" was engaged stay non-hibernated

If that is what you mean, this is a MUST-HAVE function!

I vote FOR! That would be fantastic from a user perspective: total multitasking on-demand!

oasisfeng !!! Please, please! Implement that! A lot of us need it!!!
[Greenify] 8808889:
Thanks for the app, let me try this on paranoid android. :good:
[Greenify] bobdoblo:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT* v1.7 beta (Updated on Mar.25)

I'd like the pause to mean that everything is took out of hibernation to do their syncing, updating etc.

Or a 30min delay on boot.

*NeatROM*
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT* v1.7 beta (Updated on Mar.25)

Wow. If oasisfeng implements the random ideas being asked for in here, Greenify will become a bloated mess that's complicated to use and uses more ram and cpu cycles than it's designed to save.

What is so hard to understand? Only Greenify badly behaved apps! This is not a task killer guys.

I vote to leave the feature set pretty much as it is, personally. Unless any new features do not impact on the apps ram/cpu usage that is.
[Greenify] iamelton:
im a chinese and i have visited oasis's blog.. while i learnt a lot from his technical articles, i also realised that he is a guy with a healthy (imho.. :) ) mindset, i.e., to keep app design as simple and efficient as possible, and to promote correct usage of the devices (both among users as well as developers).. and thats why greenify came to life..

so far i think his choices on greenify's functionality match what he preaches, and im quite sure that greenify will not transform into a bloatware..

and lastly guys, pls DO NOT ask for features if you are not sure that they will benefit the majority of users..

use this app with ur BRAIN.. if u want everything to be automatic and idiot-proof, switch to an iDevice!
[Greenify] Yahia700:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT* v1.7 beta (Updated on Mar.25)

How to use your app please

Sent From My Evolved Mini Galaxy

Android 4.2.2
[Greenify] italia0101:
Thanks for adding my video to the OP!

awesome stuff!

and again, thanks for the amazing app!
[Greenify] bladetears:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT* v1.7 beta (Updated on Mar.25)

This is an amazing app, using this with DS Battery Saver and the results are great.
[Greenify] xxLeoxx93:
Helps to save a lot of battery, thanks!
[Greenify] Fiize:
Nice for freeing up some RAM. Is there some sort of list available for which apps that can be safely greenified? I have a few apps which I want to greenify: Google Maps, UpdateMe and Samsung Task Manager. These apps are constantly running in the background, is it safe to greenify them?