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[Greenify] igloohed73:
That would be a separate issue of which I'm not referring too.

My solution is for unresolved "Donation Package" issues for persons who have "Root Cloak" or "Play Store Fix" modules or apps installed, as stated. These disrupt "donation verification".

Not everyone who will read this has Amazon update issues.

This is just an FYI.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I'll try to push through the new version on Amazon Appstore. Before that, please stick to the Xposed framework before 2.6.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
The reviewer of Amazon Appstore rejected most of my past submits, due to lack of knowledge on how Xposed framework works. :(
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Sometimes apps got hibernated, but then woken later for some reason. It looks like they never got hibernated at all.

Please try the "Wake-up Tracker" feature to find out whether and why it was woken.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
It highly depends on the implementation of your music player. Most well coded music player should place a sticky notification to indicate the playing state, thus Greenify will not try to put it into hibernation.

Tip: You can leave the music app in the foreground before turning off the screen, Greenify will ignore the foreground app in hibernation procedure.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
When it goes invalid, could you please run this command in the shell:

pm list packages -i com.oasisfeng.greenify.pro

and paste the result here.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I've been busy working on a real automatic hibernation for non-root devices, beyond the current "automated manual hibernation".

The update schedule is going to be delayed a bit.
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Please read these posts and stop blaming oasisfeng. You will see that Amazon keeps rejecting updates. This is an Amazon issue, not [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]. Thank you.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49548295&postcount=5936

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49175926&postcount=5691

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49086723&postcount=5625

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48786987&postcount=5464
[Greenify] padraigdoran:
Nope, you've got it ALL WRONG. This is EXACTLY what I want Greenified. Yes, both my SMS app AND Dialer. I know exactly how Greenify works and the risks of Greenifing system apps. Also, yes I HAVE researched the wakelocks and such causing wakeups and in my particular setup they are the apps I want Greenified. So, instead of trying to give a lecture about people not knowing what they are doing, you could try to give an answer to the question asked. That question being, why do service based telephony messages not cause SMS/phone based apps to wake up like when standard SMS messages are sent?
[Greenify] gGabi:
I'm sorry bro. I have no idea/answer for you.

Why would you want dialer and sms app greenified in the first place? If you won't mind sharing the reason for that...
[Greenify] Maaad.devID:
nice apps , my phone get more free ram :D
[Greenify] padraigdoran:
That's okay. I use Handcent SMS app because I like the customisations in it but it's RAM heavy and has wakelocks that I don't want. I know I could cut specific wakelocks but I'd rather it sleep until needed. Handcent even has SMS receiver wakelocks for a long time too which I don't like. I Greenify the Dialer app because it has a wakelock relating to network location that does not turn off because of a certain settings I have. I don't want to disable the cause of the wakelock on the Dialer app because I want that for other things. There is also an issue with RILJ wakelocks and the Dialer app.

I think my question is more pointed at [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] because I think it's an application design issue rather than anything else, i.e. those type of service SMS messages aren't yet implemented to wakeup SMS/telephony aware apps.
[Greenify] zolee_:
Then forget amazon.

Provide us download link.

Manual update will work?
[Greenify] Pkt_Lnt:
Please take the reply from [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] into consideration with your demands for a download link. In his country, it might not be possible.
[Greenify] dirt:
wow. just wow. I don't even know what to say here, except that I am embarrassed to be a user of this app alongside some seemingly very ungrateful users.

I completely umdserstand that real life takes priority over development and that sometimes other things beyond anyone's control also gets in the way.

tapatalked from my at&t s4
[Greenify] Korgy:
Keep up the good good work! Greenify is one of the best apps developed!
[Greenify] Zer07777:
I did not know this either , sorry oasisfeng , i had no idea it was amazon's fault
[Greenify] zolee_:
Its not a demand but a sugestion and question. And I am not talking about putting a link for donation package and whole that buying of it process, but just app itself. If we already have donation package couldn't be posible to manualy update if app itself is there somewere else for download. Its a question for dev acctualy. Guess he is only one who knows if that can work or not.

[MENTION=1833351]p1gp3n[/MENTION]

I am really glad for your enlingthened feelings. Maybe we can swap app versions? You'll enjoy your feelings of moral superiority and I'll enjoy the app. Its a win win situation :/

Sarcasam asside, dev offered a donation package in excange for extra features. We took it. Now you guys are having latest version while we dont and soultion is not in sight. Everone here, when asking for solution, is essentialy saying hey bro be thankfull shame on you for bothering dev, go talk to amazon its amazon. Yea, its amazon. But what now, stay at that conclusion, wash the hands and dich amazon users? I didnt made a deal with amazon. Its only dev who can really solve this. So maybe one solution if amazon is whay it is, is selling donation package through amazon but providing link for latest app version through some download site.
[Greenify] qtoo941:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION]: i got question.. So far i have been using only KitKat custom ROMs on my galaxy nexus maguro and always my android was on dalvik runtime. But now i decided to try some custom ROM and move to ART runtime. AFAIK Xposed Installer is not compatible with ART runtime and i am a bit worried. How can I use greenify's free experimental features like wake-up cut feature, notifications when app is greenified and etc, when i am on ART? Is there any way?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Unfortunately, Amazon enforces a special post-process on all submitted apk before published to its appstore, which activate all the features of Amazon SDK including In-App-Purchase. That's the most annoying part of Amazon Appstore in a developer's view.

The apk without Amazon's post-process will just fail on IAP verification. :(
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I guess Xposed framework will soon support ART after Google release its newer version of Android later this month. Until that, I'm afraid there's no way yet.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Some people in here need to learn the distinction between a donation and a purchase.

The fact that it's a donation, rather than a pro version heavily implies that experimental features are offered to donators as a courtesy or a thank you for donating, not as a purchase with expectations of continued support or that they will even function correctly.

If Amazon are causing issues by not approving updates, that is not the dev's fault. At all. He obviously doesn't want to provide his app outside of the places it's currently offered, so those with issues will have to wait until Amazon stops being useless. :D

For what it's worth, I have the donate version and never use the experimental features at all. I purchased it to support development, which is the real purpose of a donation, in my opinion.
[Greenify] zolee_:
Ok, thanks. Hope you finds some way through their ears...
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Seems like your donation package installation is affected by some unknown factor, causing its installer detached from Google Play.

You can do some test and track the result of the above command, to find out what changed it.
[Greenify] rafpigna:
Hello, I'm unfortunately experimenting issue with the auto-hibernating function.

I'm on rooted stock 4.4.2 Samsung Galaxy Note 3 rom.

I'm using SuperSu (Chainfire) root management app. (I saw the FAQ that suggested to use this in case of issues) but unfortunately when I shut-down the screen, the apps in "idle" will not go in hibernation. If i press the "hibenation" shortcut, the hibernation works fine.

There is something I can do? :crying:

I would like prefer to not install the experimental feature version with xposed framework because I dont want to install xposed... or is the only way to fix this? :confused:
[Greenify] abusalimov:
Could you answer to my earlier question, please?
[Greenify] meyerweb:
A question about "Wake-up Tracker and Cutoff"

How do we see what apps have been tracked? And how do we "optionally" cut off the wake-up path? I don't see any place where this "tracking" is recorded or displayed, or any option to cut-off the wake-up path.
[Greenify] sordna:
No need for exposed for auto hibernation as long as you have root. Are you sure you give enough time after the screen turns off? The hibernation doesn't happen immediately, wait for 2-3 minutes with screen off, then turn on the screen to see.
[Greenify] elitetoniv:
Is there any guidelines for which app I should greenify?? I mean we should not greenify messaging app and those receiving push notifications...
[Greenify] MrSchaal:
Greenify those apps causing wakelocks, identify them using BetterBatteryStats oder Wakelock Detector. I've greenified Facebook, Google+ and Google Play Services for example, since they've caused tons of wakelocks on my Nexus 4.
[Greenify] LinearEquation:
I Greenify any user app I am not reliant on. For example, ES File Explorer, Busy Box, AdAway and similar user apps I don't Greenify. Any game, Twitter and apps I don't need draining my battery I Greenify. Everyone is different in what counts as an important enough app to not Greenify.
[Greenify] kotaxor:
Some apps, like K@mail, tend to restart even after greenified. And Greenifly will try to greenified it again and again...This will indirectly cause battery to drain.
[Greenify] chrisch91:
Play services are safe to hibernate??
[Greenify] sohebq:
I would not recomend.

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Greenify] pratik_193:
1st of all, i am not able to see play services in greenify list, i have enabled experimental functions also. Can someone tell me how do i greenify google play services?
[Greenify] 1300l:
When you click on the + for add apps to the list, check the options button (three dots button) and click on show all.

About if its safe to greenefy the play services?

Yes, it is... but there is a catch. Some times the app who need it wont wake it so you need to open play services your self. But usualy maps do wake it (since it use it) for example.
[Greenify] pratik_193:
Thanks a ton, dint see the show all option..
[Greenify] rafpigna:
Yes, I tried waiting more than 10 minutes but nothing happens, the apps are still in "idle" and waiting to be hibernated :crying:
[Greenify] MrSchaal:
yes, it's quite safe, and saves a lot of battery as well. But it might break some Google push notifications, like Gmail for example, when the phone is idle. There is a good tutorial which recommends greenifying the Play Services:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2357417

normally, system applications like Google Play Services are not visible in the list, that's right. First of all you must transform the app from a system app to a normal user app. Or you buy the donate version of Greenify, which is able to greenify system applications. Then you'll have to choose the "show all" option in the Greenify menu (the button with three dots on it) in order to show all installed applications in Greenify. Now you should be able to see the Play Services as well..
[Greenify] gravityy:
quick questions regarding greenifying system apps, i already checked the show all, and i cant see the system apps, i'm on 4.4.3 stock rom, any suggestions? thanks :D

Typed from nexus 5
[Greenify] MrSchaal:
Do you have the donation version of greenify and the Xposed-Framework installed? Greenify Xposed module activated? checked the option "greenifying systemapps" under "experimental features"?
[Greenify] timvdhoorn:
I searched about a hour for some kind of anwser but i can't seem to find it so maybe someone here could help me.

If I understand it right the apps with a GCM icon can be hibernated without losing the push messages (so when app is closed/hibernated i receive a push notification)

so i greenified facebook and facebook messenger and asked a friend to send me a message on facebook messenger and received a push notification immediately so thats nice; but now i got the following problem..

If I do the same with whatsapp (greenify and let friend send message) i won't receive any message (push notification) untill i open whatsapp.. (but it have the GCM icon??)

(I'm using donated version and enabled the experimental feature for GCM!)

So can anyone explain it to me? Thanks, Appreciate it!
[Greenify] FcoEnrique:
+1
[Greenify] tapa_t:
Hey, I have a question :)

Is it possible to make multiple lists of apps to hibernate, and Zzz them from a shortcut or locale (tasker) plungin?

I have a group of apps I want to hibernate under certain conditions, but not necessarily have to (or want to) keep them hibernated all the time.

So, separate lists and shortcuts pointing to them would be great.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
[MENTION=5880070]tapa_t[/MENTION]

Yes. Tasker.

It's initially a hassle because you can't just pick or highlight multiple apps from a scrolling list. Instead, you need to create a separate event for each app you want in the hibernate list. But thesr would be under one task accessible via a task shortcut.
[Greenify] gravityy:
yes, all of them is already installed and checked, and i still cant greenify system apps

Typed from nexus 5
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Not sure about whatsapp, but I think Facebook has been discussed recently. I believe this is an issue with the Facebook app rather than Greenify.

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@oasisfeng :

A few questions I can't find answers to:

I have the donate version, root and xposed. I've turned on alarm coalescing, and have a question about how this works. (Not what, but how.) Greenify gave me a message that said it was coalescing Words With Friends, and the message included the text "24h." Since doing that, I don't think I'm getting notifications from Words when it's my turn to play. Does the 24h mean that Words is only going to notify me once every 24 hours? If so, that seems to be a problem. How does Greenify decide what alarms to join together?

For the future, you might want to add an option to let the user exclude certain apps from coalescing, if this impacts notifications.

Also, I tried to Greenify the system app Sprint Zone, and Greenify said it was ungreenifiable. I find this odd, since I can actually freeze it in Titanium without any negative impact. Is this something you could check when you have some time. Let me know if I can provide any information to help.

Finally, a question about Wakeup Tracker and Cut-off: the menu says this will track the app that's waking my greenified apps. Is there any way to see the output of this tracking? I can't find any sort of log, or any option to view this information. It also say it can optionally cut off that path. Where can that option be selected?

Many thanks for your help, and thanks for producing this app. It's the only battery saving / task manager type of app I've found that really works, without doing more harm that good.
[Greenify] FcoEnrique:
If you read again... there says that facebook is working fine. :rolleyes:
[Greenify] themadproducer:
[MENTION=4375313]timvdhoorn[/MENTION]

Your probably doing everything right.

Other users have expressed similar issues.

IMO, it's a feature that seems to be too specialized and inconsistent considering the crazy number of devices, roms, software updates etc. Heck, it could work fine for one user with a particular setup one day..., then Whatsapp gets an update, and everything changes. That's ok, if the Greenify Dev could spent 2 hrs every day chasing down the code changes for every unique setup, but that is unlikely to happen. On the other hand, Hibernation...seems to be a much more universal and stable feature of Greenify and it gets the most attention when enough users report an issue.

Sorry for the technically useless answer...but it does explain that it could be a futile endeavour.

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@meyerweb

Regarding Sprint Zone...

When you tried to add it to the hibernation list, did you notice in the popup... the option to choose "INSIST"?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Due to many complaints about the failure of automatic hibernation, I'll add some detection logic to try to figure out the actual situation in your device and offer some informative suggestion.

A known failure situation is MIUI which blocks all boot-up launch from 3rd-party apps. Unless you explicitly unblock Greenify in the settings, Cleaner service will not run automatically, thus no automatic hibernation.
[Greenify] elitetoniv:
I noticed that too. Anyone else facing this issue??
[Greenify] j831:
I had this issue a few times before and I think it only occurred after I restored whatsapp from a backup.

Not really sure how I fixed the problem exactly but you can try to degreenify whatsapp and then greenify again (I usually like to receive at least one msg before I greenify again). I also make sure I have the latest version of xposed installed.
[Greenify] 1300l:
[MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] have you find a issue about the hibernation button not hibernate some apps it was able to (say it could not hibernate in the toast) before the xposed update?

Or is it just me (i have how ever uninstall the app and the pro license, cleam the cache and re install with the google store option to restore apps via backup off).
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Yes. I selected that option and Greenify still told me it couldn't hibernate it.
[Greenify] tapa_t:
154

[MENTION=1989457]themadproducer[/MENTION]

Hey, thank you for reply :)

This is exactly why I want "a list" in greenify, which I can choose by a single click in tasker (well, Llama in my case).

For the same reason I use Intelli3G to toggle 2G<>3G when a particular set of apps are used, instead of choosing all apps one by one in a Llama event.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
[MENTION=2672641]meyerweb[/MENTION]

Another thing you should try, if you have Tasker, create a Task to hibernate Sprint Zone. Yah never know. If that works, at least you know it's possible.
[Greenify] 1300l:
Im having the same issue i think.

I found out that apps some apps who are in the list but are frozen it failue to hibernate. Also that if the app is in use (such as when the phone sync and i try to hibernate the calendar sync app) it failue too and only work when the sync is done.

I dont know if the toasts are more precise and before greenefy wouldnt hibernate yet say it did.. or if there is a issue we are missing.
[Greenify] Silentbob999:
You will see the "open by". Once the app selected if you use the scissors it will cut that wakeup path.

Use the menu to re-attach the wakeup if something goes bad.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Greenify] bleedingthru:
Does anyone have a twitter app that gets its notifications while hibernated? I usef echofon once it worked then stopped all of a sudden . fb mlb at bat flowly work fine for me and yes im using paid version w xposed
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Thank you. But where do I look to see this "open by"?
[Greenify] Silentbob999:
It will be only for app that you already have in your Greenify list. On the first page where you see if they are open /pending / greenified.

You see open by Nova since xxx second.

There some screenshot

If you Greenify Google search you can eventually see all kind of weird location wakeup like xxxx.enterincar, start to walk or things like that... but you need the good timing to see those because it won't stay open very long.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Merci Silentbob. Now I understand.
[Greenify] 1300l:
Thats a good discovery
[Greenify] Markmaster:
Greenify without root

Hi.

Got some questions for developer. If my phone is not rooted, I don't have Xposed Framework installed, is that app is steel useful for me?

I just want to clarify some aspects for myself. I use app and donation package. I saw one item in "Experimental Features", it's called "Keep Notifications (limited)". I I clearly understand, that means, that I can greenify some apps with GCM icon and I will keep going to accept the notifications? I try this on the selected apps but there is no notifications. Only if I start the app manually. Why? This is only for rooted phones? If so, why you marked that Xposed-based version has no limitation? I check the item in the "Notification Access" menu the Greenify app and the notification are still despised. Why?

Is non root version go Greenify always need to press the widget button to manually greenify the apps via Accessibility menu feature? There is no automatic, aprox 5-8 minutes background Greenifying feature for non root users? Only manually I can affect to the greenified apps, via shortcut widget?
[Greenify] jacknicholson:
You'll need at least root and/or Xposed for the 'Keep Notifications' feature to work.

Without root, there is no proper auto-hibernation at the moment. The process, however, can be 'automated' (check Greenify under the Accessibility page of your system settings). You'll still have to use the widget and/or select your apps in Greenify, though (I believe a previous implementation required non-rooted users to manually force stop their apps). That said, you can search the thread for Tasker if you're interested in automating screen off hibernation yourself.
[Greenify] TakamineSubasa:
tasker plugin is not working when trying to Wake Up an hibernated app :(, it grants superuser priviledges but does not wake up the app

EDIT: After activating impulse mode, the problem is solved :D

EDIT2: Its not working again :(

EDIT3: Its strange, after reinstalling everything, but not installing GREENEFY DONATION apk it then works.. bug??
[Greenify] bleedingthru:
Would greenify cause data loss on a game? I tried playing scribblenauts and my game save was gone cant think of anything else
[Greenify] mdamaged:
Not related to greenify, if you read reviews on play store you will see the game has a history of broken saves.
[Greenify] Javi22:
So do you greenify Google search? Which is the conclusion?

I used to do it because I can see lot of wake ups because of this app, however I'm not sure if it is really draining battery or not.

On the other hand people who greenify Google Play Services, is it really working fine? I've tried but I still getting wake ups and I have to use scissors to cut the wake up way, but a message appear warning that it's not sure because is a perceptible app...
[Greenify] 1300l:
Any app that wake without you to call it cause a battery drain, specialy when the screen is off. So for that reason i say the most apps you can greenify is the best, even if it drain litle.

I greenefy and freeze with app quarentine pro the googlep lay services (all of then).

As i quarentine when i want to use it i use the widget for "wake" it and work fine if you use as such.

If you just greenefy i think you will need to test. Just greenefy google play services and open youtube. Check if it ask for the services to be enable or if youtube wake it automaticly.
[Greenify] meyerweb:
Greenifying apps that you use frequently can actually increase battery drain, as Android has to repeated reload the app into RAM.

I would use a battery monitor like Better Battery Stats to figure out which apps are actually using battery heavily, or keeping the phone from going to sleep, and greenify those apps that you don't use frequently.