yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Why on earth would I feel the need to quote everything? It's a 15 page piece!

Would I want fill these threads with it all when I've SUPPLIED THE SOURCE, no I think I wouldn't.

If you want to read it all then follow the link, I'm not doing your work for you.

I only quoted parts that are relevant to the HTC One as we are in the HTC One threads. I haven't said anything untoward the SGS4.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Its so exciting to read all the reviews of s4 :) lol
[One (M7) General] beno619:
lol, Good analogy :)

Im not sure who wins but the average consumer would definately prefer the 25gb memory vs 9gb usable

having to buy an sd card, not many people have 8gb + sd cards.
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Ok, you really make me laugh. I know its 4.5/5, feeling better? :angel:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
edit: wrong place
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Looks like we have a bottleneck in the gpu performance. Ossy1337 oced his gpu to 487mhz:

trex off: 15, trex on: 13, glbench 2.5 off: 37 , gl bench 2.5 on: 33

But: Antutu and quadrant 3d scores increased.

We are testing some other 3d benchmarks atm.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
or the OC is simply not working

this we learned from the one x if the benchmarks shows no result its not really working
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Yes... if i think about it.. the increased quadrant score (13xxx) could come from io tweaks of the kernel.

He scored 8600gpu points in antutu. I saw a video of a stock device scoring 8500... So its about the same.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
trust me, the GPU OC is not working ;) something is off with the kernel

always was the case with the One X, even if bottle-necked it should show some kind of improvement

right now this is the exact results as without OC, so yes the kernel dev said its there but im pretty sure its not working properly, we had the same episode with nearly every kernel release on the One X :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
The HTC One may be using a form of system write protection, the changes may be getting overridden.

I'll say it once more these SoCs have strict voltage / thermal limits, when you exceed them it throttles

To test this, you could OC the One to 450 Mhz, why the need to jump to 487 MHz?, but run the device in a freezer (inside a ziplock bag!!!) Anandtech style, run a single T-Rex test measure the score. Run the test again in normal conditions, if there is a significant difference in scores, then you're thermally limited.

That being the case, you can look at two strategies for OC gaming run the CPU lower, set via the governor to between 1.1 & 1.5, rerun the benchmarks and determine the optimum result, gaming doesn't require mega CPU power, it's all about the GPU. Secondly, start to see how far your SoC can undervolt, the lower the voltage needed, the less heat is produced. Combined with a slight reduction in CPU frequency, undervolting will lead to the best success in overclocking the GPU for gaming.

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HTC should sell a One mini. Same specs, design etc, just in a iPhone sized package, many people are put off by big phones, I'm telling you it would sell incredibly well.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Haha, HTC should sell s, m, l, xl, and xxl sizes of the one lol, 4', 4.3', 4.7', 5.0', 5.5' , then no-one will troll about the size :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
but you can clearly see who's boss in this photo haha

anyway back to GPU

[MENTION=2571611]shox22[/MENTION] you need to try to downclock to 1.3ghz CPU, raise the GPU to 450mhz, use the MSM-DVCS governor and do a single run of both Trex and Egypt HD
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I´m not rooted/unlocked yet. My phone is just 3 days old.

I told ossy1337 a few hours ago that he should try it with downclocking the cpu. Didnt work. He can just overclock it (2ghz): 14700quadrant.

Edit:

Ok, he just reported that he is now able to uc the cpu to 1,1ghz. He will do the run now
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
I got 15000 Points in Quadrant :) 1940MHz or 1890MHz
[One (M7) General] shox22:
So he did the run with 1,1ghz: Same result
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok we have a big problem in our hands seems the GPU is locked...typical :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Looks like we need to wait for some of the devs with experience of N4, like showp1984, faux etc, they managed to OC the GPU, I'm sure it will come, once people figure out the phone a little more.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
stickies

HTC most famous kernel issue :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Delete

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I agree, HTC One is now worthless, anybody who ordered one is a fool, as I'm a good guy, I will buy your Ones from you for £100:silly:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea i just got another SMS from Sam they extended the pre-order period for the life companion! im jumping ship!

:laugh:
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
OT

Once I sell my kidney, I will buy my life companion. Shiny plastic / Touchwiz is great, you feel as if you're 5 yrs old once again, playing with your toys, should we close this thread:D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no no no back on track please back to academic study of the HTC One

can we talk to some of the experts about the GPU?

faux got his one on the way, but its delivery is delayed it seems (from his tweets)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm not a fantastico but I'll try to help if I can, what do you want testing?

BTW I'm not rooted, problemo? :confused:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes you cant help

[MENTION=4041989]Turbotab[/MENTION] im not too happy about your phone history :) seems a mess :laugh:
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
Btw we got some cm 4.2. Build in the at&t variant forum.

Still very alpha and not really working but it's a good start.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Open-mined, will try anything..

Regarding the GPU, system write protection is present on the HTC One, but that can be disabled easily enough.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2230341

Has anybody tried this Kernel, you can select the GPU frequency during install only. Some users on AT&T versions say it doesn't work, but it might be fine on International versions.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2249774
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
excellent i have informed kozmikkick
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
shox22 can we try bulletproof kernel?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Mobile Slut!

:laugh:

Joking!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Butterfly gets S-OFF

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=40644814#post40644814
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lots of different scores of the SGS4 are pilling up on the GL website

http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device

reaching up to 44.1fps in Egypt HD (adreno 320)

what i dont get is the many different model numbers and did kernel development already begin on the device?

any idea? GT-i9505 is which model?

edit: it's the international LTE model

hold on maybe the 8064ab means DDR3 support?

the Otca korean model has a faster A15 speeds...

so confusing
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
The GT-i9505 is the s600 variant while the i9500 is the octa variant.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
check my post again, its the international LTE variant with s600 (standard international has OCTA)

thermal situation seems to be affecting these resutls?

i think the highest score is a freezer test or custom kernel

still these are very high results from Adreno 320 and very interesting
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
yeah mate saw. You were editing while i was replying. Difference of time zones i guess. anyway any idea how it scores such high gl scores ? :confused:
[One (M7) General] cronus101:
That black s4 looks good.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks to orb3000 for his feeds

[YOUTUBE]rB42BRjqic4[/YOUTUBE]

this one stroke me as odd:

HTC Butterfly Finally Coming To Europe
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Pocketnow: Samsung Galaxy S 4 or HTC One? Which Is the Best?

nearly all of them chose the HTC One!
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Seen that one before. Hurt my eyes.
[One (M7) General] dannyb2100:
I just done a month early upgrade with this phone. I can not wait to get my hands on it.

Unsure whether to root it or not. Going to miss having a lot of apps. But yet, I do not want to risk voiding my warranty, read a lot of horror stories of faults happening within the first few weeks.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Shen Ye: Just to clear up some speculation in regards to Gorilla Glass
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
TechCrunch: HTC One Review, The Competition Is Fierce, But HTC’s New Flagship Rises To The Challenge
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Rumor says they are on it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Phandroid finds them even

Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Imagine, all of One's specs but in a 4.3" phone. Just perfect (atleast for me). :thumbup::cool:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Rootz Wiki: One On One: A Review Of HTC's New Flagship>>
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Computer World, Samsung Galaxy S4 vs. HTC One: Camera shootout!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Low light wars
[One (M7) General] shox22:
quote ossy1337:

450mhz elementalX kernel:

I´d say the difference to the sgs4 is due to the drivers

(normal 41 with, 37,x without)
[One (M7) General] delly47:
Is the htc one easy to root? What's the situation with the boot loaders?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Just unlock and root. Its easy. But you may lose your warranty if you change the cpu / gpu speeds (or something like that) and the device will die.

Epic Citadel:

60.1 fps, resolution: 1920x1080

Device throttles with 1,1ghz cpu after some time

Edit: Seems like underclocking doesnt work. Linpack 657mflops
[One (M7) General] john291:
Wow is this for real?

Is the htc one so much better?:D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Thanks to Shox22 and Ossy1337 we have first GPU OC results

GPU: 450mhz (up from 400mhz stock)

Firmware: 1.29.401.13

Kernel: ElmentalX 0.3

scores are as good as the standard Adreno 320 SGS4 in offscreen but onscreen they are oddly limited
[One (M7) General] omersak:
Confirmed in this drop test:

[YOUTUBE]NhXBdEkZENQ[/YOUTUBE]

The distance wasn't even that great.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Walks Away from Dutch Nokia Case With a Smile
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
IGN: HTC One Review, 9.5 amazing
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]Y2whTl8HYVk[/YOUTUBE]

again thanks to orb3000 for this find
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
I have had my One since Monday.

Benchmarks and such have there place, but man you just have to use this device to appreciate it.

There are no slow downs anywhere,period. With my Desire and One V, and my son's Tarnsformer Prime you could force a slow down by simple things like updating apps on Google Play. Quite simply, while letting 5+ apps update or install, you couldn't do much with the device beyond simple OS level tasks. I set up 20 apps to install, quickly loaded email, weather, Google now, synced Press, flipped through settings, blink feed, loaded and played Nova 3 then Asphalt 7, selected home, quickly launched the camera, snapped a picture of my dog, double tap home, back into Nova 3........no lag, no stutters, nothing. I could not make this beast blink.....pun intended. And that was with power saver selected.

This is the first device I have owned where I cannot find a compromise. I am a long time HTC owner and have criticized them in the past for always having at least one critical flaw in every device they release. This is not true at all with this phone. This is truly "the One"

Seriously, what do you guys want to see tested, I can not slow this thing down no matter what I throw at it.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Latest Samsung advert, don't know why comments are disabled:eek::D

[YOUTUBE]1Ohd-DfwDGY#![/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] backfromthestorm:
They are my favourite animal of all time. The coolest of the cool.

And in other news....
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
Well you're comparing very old or low end devices with the latest and greatest , what did you expected?

I tried it too in a store not really impressed by the speed if you ask me, the build quality was superb and also the screen, couldn't try the speaker, a little disappointed with the camera color reproduction.
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Ah well, I will concede the One V belongs in the low end category, it was released as a budget device. I have extensively used the S3, and One S (tech support for Family), and played with the rest in store. The Desire and my Wife's IPhone 4 were flagship devices when we got them. My son's Transformer Prime is hardly old or outdated, it still sits near the top of Asus's line.

I missed conveying my intended message. In Android we have always had lag, launcher crashes and redraws, etc. How many times in this forum have you read "when is the last time you rebooted your phone", comments about multitasking etc. The IPhone has always been quick swiping screens, it is hard to make rows of static icons lag. Android, we have always told ourselves we have live widgets, true multitasking etc and that is why we live with lag. The "lag free" Android device has been elusive.....till now.

I have yet to experience lag or slowdowns of any sort with this device. It has been "awake" since I owned it...I have not felt the need for a reboot, unlike other Android devices. I don't know why you experienced poor speed on the demo model. I have been unable to generate lag of any kind on my One. I meant my post as a tribute to how far we have come in Android, and in particular, HTC. As I said, this phone is "the One".

All the best,
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I'm so tempted to get this phone that I might not wait for a local telco to come up with some contract packages! Argh! Weird thing, local HTC fanpage announced that a 64GB version will be sold as well. I may be wrong but I thought the 64GB is limited to the Dev edition only?
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
As far as I am aware, two 64gb models have been announced

Dev edition

at&t (exclusive for carriers United States)

Also, as far as I am aware no Canadian (my country) carriers have announced a 64gb model

There will most likely be others. This is my only criticism of the One so far, if only HTC could have released both storage and colour options on every carrier (like Apple) their sales would probably be better. I understand their supply chain and why this is not the case though.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4640911]batna.antab[/MENTION] mate he is right this the same experience I had it feels locked and refined out of box, don't just from display units which age been see and abused, its absurdly fast and smooth, there are some animation frame drops in odd locations but that's it

As for camera color reproduction it's actually a lot more accurate than the One X especially in low light but it doesn't do much out of box to boost it and impress you, instead it gives you a more authentic image
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I'm pretty curious about the 64GB version that my local HTC branch just announced hmmm.........
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
I am still waiting on T-Mobile (a person I know so I can probably procure a small discount) for the phone, so I am wondering if it is worth waiting a bit longer, assuming the 64GB will come to the UK eventually?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
How the HTC One's back cover pops off, China style
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/327714761057902592
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]K0kel2d3xGQ[/YOUTUBE]

by the way it seems a test unit (since it appears gutted in the video)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Imagine if HTC was posting these numbers

Just imagine if it was HTC posting these numbers

Samsung posts Q1 earnings, show $6,400,000,000 profit

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-posts-q1-earnings-show-6400000000-profit
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
I was just pointing that you on your previous post compared to old phones as you didn't mentioned the s3 or the one s, not that you weren't right(which you're cause the phone it's pretty smooth), just this, no intention to troll nor to offend.

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I actually felt no big difference is general smoothness , I can say it was identical to the ip5 smoothness but I found some very small issues(negligible for most people): some apps are slower to open(like temple run) and there isn't an animation when you close an app which I find quite annoying, there's also some framedrops when opening folders.

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Very interesting video about Zoe

http://youtu.be/9tiI2TUZ5-4
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4640911]batna.antab[/MENTION] ah if so i agree there are few areas where you see frame drops like folder animation inside app drawer and the gallery effects

but you have missed jmitr's point completely mate

what he is saying is that its both "smooth" and "fast" despite how much you load

this is something the iDevices are still far off, i had the exact experience during my limited four hours with the device, i wanted to do so much

so i was juggling between copy to USB, extracting zip files, testing and abusing the camera, tons of HDRs and bascially endless tests where it hit that thing was berserk, everything so effortless and so fast, especially and the camera, it felt like such a relief from both my One X and iPad4

smoothness + mulitasking + fast combined
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Samsung internal test: Galaxy S4: good, but not the best
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
what...the hell? :rolleyes:

seems sammobile is really bitter about the s4 :)
[One (M7) General] akhil8377:
Blinkfeed Auto Update

Does any one know what is the frequency in which Blinkfeed is updated automatically. It seems to me that it is not updating frequently. I am loving this feature much more than Friend stream of previous HTC phones and wish there was any way if it can be updated more frequently or can be configured by user.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
http://www.chip.de/bestenlisten/Bestenliste-Handys--index/index/id/900/

(german site with ~66million visits/month):

Also just second best behind the ONE :good:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
They have to be commended, you would never see Apple admit that or any Apple fan blogs.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Here is this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_EWqPpYVE08
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
old but just for fun

[YOUTUBE]_EWqPpYVE08[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
any updates on the GPU front?

with or without CPU UC? also you can try removing vsync + 450mhz
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
Wow! If that's the case, I might get a black one!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no no dont believe the hype, corners will still chip on the black edition :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Both unlocked US editions are out of stock

32GB

64GB, Dev edition
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
There's the question of whether any future 64GB version will be using a different microphone.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Nothing new atm. He´s too busy.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
D: how did you embed that I failed so many times :(
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
True but there's also the question of if I were to get a 32GB version from T-Mobile UK, by the time I actually get it, it could be using a different microphone also.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just put the video codenumber and not the entire linke
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Oh okay thanks :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
GPU OC results are up on the GL website :) almost equal to the iPad4

http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?site=gl

Trex Offscreen: 16.6fps (vs 14.8fps stock)

Trex Onscreen: 14.7fps (vs 13fps stock)

Egypt HD offscreen: 40.4fps (vs 36.9fps stock)

Egypt HD onscreen: 36.5fps (vs 33fps stock)

now all we need is 4.2 and we can draw conclusions
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
Delete.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Trex onscreen stock value is 13

Egypt onscreen stock value is 33

Nearly linear to frequency
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok cool corrected but previous tests seemed to get higher no? i remember when 2.7 came out scores were high
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Ok i just had the chance to inspect a 1000$ HT33M unit :laugh: still crazy around here....i also had a chance to check a cool Xlevis cover coming up in the next post
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is a very nice X-levis cover, transparent without texture but sadly it's tinted and another frosted transparent
[One (M7) General] shox22:
No. It was 29/33 on the 2.5 Version. Now its 33/37 on the 2.7. Values were that high all the time on 2.7. Looking forward to 4.2.2.. I expect to equal the results of the s4 with the same frequency.

But as we saw on ossy1337s device and brians sgs4: temperatures are too high even with the CPU underclocked...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i though you said the UC was not working?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I edited the post. Uc was working after some time.. still throttle. I hope he'll find some time to do some more testing.

Could try to unlock my fathers One (arrived yesterday). But i think he wouldnt like it.

I want to wait at least 14days bevor rooting/unlocking Mine.
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
No offense taken at all,

I actually haven't tried creating a folder inside the app drawer yet......so many hidden features I can't believe I forgot about that one!

Temple run opens and starts running in 1.88 seconds (just timed it!) with enough apps open to fill the multi task view and attempting to load up the phone first. I will concede, that may not meet the definition of instant, but the screen reacts immediately to being touched, that was the loading time till the app started animations and sound. You are correct about no animation closing an app.....I actually like that. I was able to quickly tap the home button while playing Asphalt 7, open the camera and take a quick zoe shot of my dog, then double tap, reopen Asphalt 7 and finish a corner drift. I don't think I have ever met another device capable of that. Oh, and Hamdir, even with power saver on I saw reflections and shadows on my car (not sure if you had a chance to test that). Turning power saver off did seem to improve the quality......a bit. Really I had to strain my eyes to tell the difference. I hard core gamer will notice, don't get me wrong, but not average joe user. am impressed beyond words with this phone.

I have always considered myself tech agnostic, that is why we have three older Idevices in the household (IPhone 4, Ipad 2, Ipod). I even have both Samsung and HTC deviceshttp://xdaforums.com/images/smilies/eek.gif I usually buy what I feel is the right device for the job.

Cheers mate,
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea i dont think power saver has anything to do with image quality ;)

anyway cant wait to explore gaming by myself but being 1080p im not super excited, for all the other stuff however i'm gagging :)

i already confirmed the briskness you just described

smoothness + multitasking + fast combined
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
by the way did anyone check if his unit is soff? ;)
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
You mean Test units or which ones?

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no i meant you should check if your unit is soff, sometimes they come this way
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
My one is s-on and im early adopter. :)

Gesendet von meinem HTC One mit Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Zomg!

I'm S-On...
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I assume revisions will come in 2-3 weeks as thats when HTC in the UK are getting their stock.
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
:o source? :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
MSN UK: review, The best phone in the world>>
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
People I know ;)
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Went into an o2 store to play with Laguxy S4 today.

It wasn't in yet but Samsung with ripping the store apart to build the S4 experience. I don't know how HTC is going to convince the average consumer to go with them when Samsung are literally throwing money at them :/

The only One I saw in store was a dummy model that had been ripped out of a wall and was lying on a desk :banghead: