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[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
After Samsung fed the moronic mainstream press, with the PR bullcrap about Exynos Octa being the best SoC everrrr, the confused journo hacks are now flapping about the loss of teh 8 cores, classic.

Yesterday Samsung and HTC had a brief Twitter battle, I suggest showing your support for HTC, by tweeting the following to as many people / Samsung accounts as you wish.....

We want Alloy, not some plastic toy! #wewantalloy

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-and-samsung-exchange-slaps-in-140-symbols-on-twitter/
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Funny, if it's the best SoC ever, why are they not shipping it to primary markets? UK/US/half of europe/Australia all getting snapdragon product.

M.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

There's a great war happening in the comments. So it seems like HTC got a lot of new fans with their new flagship. This time I hope the situation will be entirely different than last year's. Thanks for the post.
[One (M7) General] wph:
I still think this is wrong marketing from HTC. The vast majority of the phones they sell are still 'plastic' (or polycarbonate). Even their last flagship, the Butterfly / Droid DNA is made of this material. And while this feels much more premium than the S3's plastic, it still is plastic.

While I do agree aluminium is a nicer material, I think they need to change their marketing. Focus more on the 'premium' looks and feel, but don't hate on plastic/polycarbonate, because they still sell a lot of that stuff themselves.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Hopefully HTC is financially strong enough to make a tablet next year, and ultimately gets a Nexus contract..

The HTC One smokes Lumia 920, GS3 & iPhone 5 at low-light video.

From 4.10 onwards.

[YOUTUBE]d5NFpddZ958[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] SEX-1:
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-s4-camera.shtml

I Think The One gets smoked by S4. I have both devices in preorder and not a "fan" of any device. I have Galaxy S3, One X, Lumia 920, iPhone 5 all in use. Google translate works well to translate russian to english. HTC:s optical image stabilization outdoes S4 in video shake department thou ;)
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
Its a mixed bag. Very good comparisons though the author did mention in the end that HTC was running pre-release software. Dont know if it matters (if they improved anything in retail version) but just saying.

I'd still go for HTC One. Camera is good enough for more situations (shooting indoors, esp kids; low light; videos etc)
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Good stuff.....My personal opinion definitely favours the One in every way....I think HTC have hit the nail on the head with the camera for sure. Most people I know (Non-phone geeks included) use their phones for pictures on nights out, parties, clubs, festivals, at Christmas, at meals or to snap their kids, friends or family doing something funny or whatever....I rarely see people posting up images of scenic views or landmarks as a lot of the reviews for the cameras I've seen show. Yes I'm sure that people may use their phones for such pics but honestly I reckon it'll be like 80% indoors 20% outdoors.....I can't wait to get my One and be able to smash indoor pics out like no tomorrow!

Personally if I know I'm going to be going somewhere that is nice enough to warrant scenic pics I'll take a digital camera or my dslr in addition to my phone....I think it's the most perfect design for a camera on a phone to date by a wide margin....Because to me the bottom line is, if I really wanted to be able to take amazing photo's and that was my main reason for buying a phone I'd probably buy a HTC Wildfire sim free for like £80 and a decent DSLR with my remaining £400.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
HTC One has a better camera,the problem is that some review models came with a bad module and driver resulting with bad focus,if you saw the multiple comparison between the One and S4 and xperiaZ,you will clearly see that S4 is an playschool camera compared to the One

Also is Eldar really neutral?

I mean 1 preview of the HTC One for a month compared to several articles and previews for the S4 in only a week?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you are looking at this wrongly

the fact that the One is giving competitive results to the S4 at a fraction of the image resolution is impressive on its own

equally if you examine the close ups, the S4 images also have more tendency to motion blur

and most importantly, since its a 13MP sensor on the S4 which means more noice, they need to apply aggressive noise cancellation resulting in smudgy detail

its best seen in this, One vs S4

but yes all in all the S4 is a better 13MP camera than the Xperia Z in every way but the One is keeping up and beating it in some areas with a mere 4MP

also despite how much in-depth this article attempts to go, they did not really do real low light night tests
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Welcome back Hamdir!

I was worried about you :eek:

The One forum is dead without you
[One (M7) General] umd:
Where the hell is the low light(outside) samples from One and iPhone 5? Why only S3 and S4? This is one of the selling point of the One against S4 and he doesn't care putting it? And why would he resize the samples of the crops to match with S4's? The downward of the less MP should be smaller picture not resized and pixellated looking pictures. I think there are some costs of having S4 before everyone.

On the other hand, looks like Samsung did very good job with 13 MP compared to Sony. S4's samples look good but we don't have samples from a DSLR to see real enviroment so we can't talk about for sure.
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
HTC is airing ads for the HTC One all over Frankfurt, every projector I passed with the train was displaying ads for Zoe or Blinkfeed and the One in general! :)

At the airport they showed a lot of ads too! :)

Here is a small picture I caught at the end when I left the train at the airport.

I took the picture with my old DHD so don't judge the horrible image quality!!! thanks trolls
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
HTC is focusing on real world usage ... Mostly you take pics in your office, your home, with your friends mostly indoors. In weekend in a pub or in a concert. People usually go out on Friday evening or Saturday night and snap pictures. So most of the scenarios are indoors than outdoors
[One (M7) General] flyaway9000:
MSN UK gave the HTC one 5 stars the first phone since iphone to get 5 stars!! an the header reads best phone in the world! :victory:
[One (M7) General] ssking:
http://tech.uk.msn.com/mobiles/htc-one-review
[One (M7) General] flyaway9000:
Oh yeh I shoud of added that lol
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
Some new official ads are online :D

[YOUTUBE]zPFoQ-I0oME[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]_VINTa2Qi8o[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] Good_vibes:
Been dying to know this! Can anyone confirm if the middle section between backside and front glass/speakers (white stripe that goes all around the body) plastic? :confused:
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It is.
[One (M7) General] shox22:
It is plastic.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Finally!
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

If I remember correctly its high density polycarbonate, not your standard toy plastic

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] omersak:
Pocketnow Video Review now up. They gave it 9/10, docked a point for the camera which they didn't like:

[YOUTUBE]VuR4Pf59nJc[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] myself11:
Does HTC One have MHL 2.0? I haven't been able to find it.
[One (M7) General] smongium:
LTE support

Just a question, is all the One in Europe support LTE or there is a non-LTE version of the phone?
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The best review I have seen.. I agree to almost every point he said..

.....
[One (M7) General] joslicx:
Best phone in the world today

HTC One crowned best phone in the world today by techradar:good:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/20-best-mobile-phones-in-the-world-today-645440
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The reviewer seems like a sense hater, but he likes the sense 5 but not not the blinkfeed, app drawer weather widget.
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Sometimes when i watch a comparison between the One and the One X and comparing the 'looks' alone, the design of the One X looks better than the One's. Not saying that the One isn't good, but imo, the One X's design has a more potential look for a flagship phone. Sexier design than the One i should say. Or maybe it's just me. :D:p
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yea, he is a lil bit of an iPhone fanboy but he did pretty good in this review.
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
I love my One X but I think you'll find yourself in the minority with that opinion. I think the One looks miles better the One X. The aluminium, the curved back, the lack of camera bump all push the One over the top.
[One (M7) General] Super Chimp:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Cannot see that this has already been posted in this thread.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_delayed_to_late_april_everywhere_but_uk_germany_taiwan-news-5748.php
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
Yes it does.
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Not counting the aluminum vs. polycarbonate.. maybe only the front part of the One X is much better than the One. But overall winner, it's still the One, specially the black One. :cool::D
[One (M7) General] blahblahyoutoo:
I like how they included some brothers to give it some street cred, LMAO. :laugh:

---------- Post added at 02:19 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:07 PM ----------

if they didn't, they wouldn't be around next year.
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
haha Eldar''s site of course the Samsung would win on there, Eldar is on Samsungs pay roll for "consultancy" work

even if it was Galaxy Ace v HTC ONE the Ace would win
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Went into my local 3 store (uk) and they said htc one is out but they are out of stock. I informed them I was only interested in 64gb only and they told me it will be released end of April !!!!

Makes my decision harder now. S4 OR ONE ! .... it will ultimately come down to camera ... lets see if s4 has got rid of pink spot and improved on s3 blurred camera
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Same here, but I would always prefer Aluminium over polycarbonate. I would love if htc one x got the one's build quality...! One X with an Aluminium unibody design, sounds really cool.
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The evo is pretty much that except for the top part of the back and the rear speaker cover.
[One (M7) General] puremind:
The reviewer criticizes the way apps are being added from the app drawer to each screens. There is another, easier way of adding apps to the each screen. Just pinching the current screen gives a view where apps and widgets can more easily be distributed to the home screen of your choice.

Also a bug in the camera ISO settings was confirmed by HTC, hence why the camera does not produce the best shots in a bright environment.
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
Great! I've been worried about the camera. Thanks for the info. :)
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
My understanding of the "bug" is that it causes the camera to use a lower ISO setting than is requested. If so then bright light pictures will look worse when it is "fixed", not better.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

http://youtu.be/bcGS-lwQOC0

I hope this wasn't already posted, great video comparison of black vs silver one.
[One (M7) General] umd:
It sets ISO lower then needed so this causes darker images in daylight. This bug definitely showed itself in comparisons.

Check this one out for ex.

http://pocketnow.com/2013/03/17/htc-one-vs-iphone-5-camera
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Had a couple of positive comments today while my One was on the desk at work
[One (M7) General] luuranko3:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Damm my pre order is now pushed to 15.4.2013 :(:(:(:(
[One (M7) General] VeixES:
Over here in Estonia, it got pushed from 01.04.2013 to 08.04.2013.....
[One (M7) General] luuranko3:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I live in finland :D
[One (M7) General] schrickm5:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I dont have a precise date in Sweden for one of my orders, the other was the 2nd May. Im not in a rush luckily.
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
Bloody hell, just seen the UK advert for the first time for the One on Sky Sports 2 (Scotland v Wales)....advertising the Boomsound.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

About time, I'm getting sick of the Note 2 ad which is getting shown every break at a certain TV station...
[One (M7) General] fraxli:
I just want to say thanks for such a great thread. :o and today i receive this email from HTC, they are really trying. For me I can wait all the time just to have this phone in my hands:good::o
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The more I read about HTC One more I get sad about the fact the HTC closed the offices and activity in Brazil because of stupid and abusive government fees.

If some of my closer friends decide going for a trip abroad I'll ask them to buy One for me. Otherwise I'll be the most unfaithful Galaxy S4 owner... Cause I'll be jealous about htc one for a looong time.

Edit: link

http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/22/htc-confirms-closing-offices-halting-direct-sales-in-brazil/

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
Well HTC has never had office in Finland. We don't even have official HTC Facebook page. They think Swedish page will do but how wrong are they. :(
[One (M7) General] Xenon13:
dam its beautiful. thanks for the info
[One (M7) General] plun:
Well its a Danish guy, Peter Frölund, which runs the Nordic business (Sweden is probably ousourced) and scare everyone about local radio-firmwares and that everyone must buy a nordic phone..... :p LTE/4G is broken and languages :p

EU is a free market.... :D

http://ec.europa.eu/internal_market/top_layer/living_working/index_en.htm

Don't buy a phone from UK or Germany :p Well, local "**** heads"...:silly:
[One (M7) General] huxley309:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Well that's going to be difficult seeing as we got first dibs :p
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
Do you have a link where they write about this bug?
[One (M7) General] TheCrow1372:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Any info from Canadians who have been able to actually get one yet, I'm with Telus and they have no info plus Bell says they can get u one in select 'The Source.ca' but don't actually have them oh yeah the Telus store actually said their order was delayed supposedly cuz of factory recall something to do with "cam issues"?? :(:thumbup::banghead:

HTC One S/Viper/Elemental Kernel 3.4
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No body is sayin the daylight camera is useless, in fact many reviews praised it, check the ultrapixel samples collective post from OP

This is the most interesting bit for me from the gsmarena review

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one-review-912p8.php

This actually says again whatever I've been saying about the sgs4 comparison

You get better quality detail,when seen at full 100% than 13MP sensors
[One (M7) General] zehoo2:
9h58m battery life in gsmarena's web browsing test is great.
[One (M7) General] puremind:
Google for "HTC one ISO bug"
[One (M7) General] puremind:
HTC seems to have different models with different screen brightness and as a result also different battery life!

I did some research and it now seems pretty clear that HTC is using two different screen types in the One, just like it did use both Acer and Sharp in the One X. The Sharp had the higher brightness and higher color temperature.

The same pattern can be observed for the One so far:

- 26.02.2013 RUS 3dnews.ru: 382cd/m² and 1,258:1 contrast | 6,938K color temperature

- 14.03.2013 GBR uk.hardware.info: 426cd/m² brightness | 977:1 contrast | 7,820K color temperature

- 14.03.2013 NLD Tweakers.net: 489cd/m² | 1159:1 contrast | 8,166 color temperature

- 19.03.2013 DEU Notebookjournal: 385cd/m² and 1100:1 contrast

- 20.03.2013 DEU Computerbase.de: 483cd/m² brightness | 1100:1 contrast | 6,600K color temperature

- 20.03.2013 GBR pcpro: 481cd/m² brightness | 1202:1 contrast

- 20.03.2013 DEU Chip.de: 479cd/m² brightness | 1020:1 contrast

- 23.03.2013 USA GSMArena: 647cd/m² brightness | 1541:1 contrast

As can be seen. there doesn't seem to be any pattern in terms of date or market so far, with both screen versions appearing in German reviews. Perhaps because of the Apple competition in the U.S., the screen in the US review gets higher brightness.

Anyways I will be measuring the screen on my device as soon as I receive it. I much prefer the lower brightness version because it will use up much less battery in daily use. At least until a custom ROM enables to put a cap on maximum brightness as needed.

So this also explains why battery tests have been a mixed bag. It will depend a lot on the maximum brightness of the screen on your specific HTC One version!

I will definitely be measuring my screen before I decide whether or not to keep my device! There will be a second German review published soon on notebookcheck.com, and they usually also test the screen, so keep your eyes open.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Is there anyone who has tried adjusting the sharpness levels in camera settings to see if the image quality improves? This is a trick to get the One X snap pics that are less compressed.

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I think the camera experience is subjective, if your going to be taking landscape pictures, with bright lighting and want lots of detail the s4 may be for you.

If your taking everyday photos in poorly lot conditions inside buildings, late at night then the One's camera excels.

It's a better all rounder imo..

The way I see it the One does okay where other cameras excel, but when other cameras are garbage the One excels !

We're still not sure what kind of impact this ISO bug has caused in reviews.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
the impact? noisy and dark pictures during broad daylight
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Fixing the bug should make images brighter, but it won't make them less noisy.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
your reply simply proves to me HTC did a mistake in doing the right thing about the camera, simply because people will never understand it, after seeing the pictures against the s4 on the Russian article I choose the ultra pixel in a blink who cares about all those pixels if u zoom and its as smudgy pixel hell, very clear in the wallet photo

anandtechs full review will soon declare it the best camera on android by the way

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39085880&postcount=2205

if the photos and positive reviews in the above link can not convince you, stop crying and get the s4

as for the gsmarena review despite the praise it was clearly biased you can cleary see it when they talk about the s4 in the conclusion, clearly alluding that the s4 is something massively better insisting that its so incredible to increase the screen to 5 inch in the same dimensions and not once criticizing the material or design, besides they always made love to amolds and never minded fake colors accuracy or pentile

gsmsrena really lost all my respect, funny when its them who got me into HTC with their HTC Diamond review

by the way yesterday I saw HTC's budget priced Desire SV, despite the cheaper build it still had phenomenal feel, material and had a massive metal frame, the screen was floating on surface same blacks and color accuracy as the One X but weaker view angles, it was a glimpse of a less fancy HTC future and yet it was still way ahead anything Samsung build or design, the battery door was creaky however which I couldn't stand I still choose no sd and locked battery over creakiness

HTC are making all the "right" calls but if u care more about bluff marketing you will never see or understand subtlety
[One (M7) General] umd:
They weren't noisy anyway.
[One (M7) General] strip419:
HTC in trouble my friends, nokia won a patent case www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2013/3/21/htc-dealt-patent-and-htc-one-supply-chain-blows.aspx
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

This story is a week old, it also only applies to phones htc dont ship anymore, so basically it doesn't matter in the slightest bit.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
gsm arena surely must have a faulty phone as there is no way they are telling me on speaker tests that the One with the loudest stereo speakers I have heard only just about beats the S3, One X+ and to mention a few other single speaker phones on ringing DB, and falls short of the loudness of the note 2 which iirc got 82 db for ringing and worse than that for voice + pink noise/music only matches the s3, iphone 5, one x+ etc surely they have a bad unit, while may not be quite 93db this thing is much louder than those phones!

I have noticed this in the past aswell that alot of the scores they give for phone when I have had the retail unit it is much louder.

I know for a fact the speakers on the one are louder than the note 2 I have them both here with me and have done a comparison playing the same song with no equalizers on and also ringing wise the same song and loud speaker test aswell
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Over saturation on amoled displays is a normal thing, just like high power consumption is an lcd thing

You actually come to like it when u get used to it,

You may eventually loose respect for all review sites that say SGS4 is Generally better than the one.

Since samsung is paying them all to give good impression about the GS4

OEMs are not selling phones to xda members only, who have a good knowledge of what they wantm. They are selling to millions out there who don't even know what pentile display and cheap plastic is. Once they see the "bluff marketing" they will surely buy.

If only HTC gets serious with their own "bluff marketing".
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Even if the camera isnt as good as 8mp and 13mp shooters. It is still pretty close and some of the issues like the softness may be fixable in a software update. I'd say having it be very close to the competitors but easily outclassing them in night time shots/video makes it preferable in my eyes. Like hamdir said no one has said the camera is terrible.
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
Seems like HTC is very aggressively marketing