yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems to be a metering mistake in my opinion

i think he is failing to attain good focus on most of his shots

didnt see this on the engadget samples
[One (M7) General] jeffsanace:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Let's not forget that all these were taken on pre release software. Noon yesterday the release version was pushed out.

Bad Seed Customs

Just Sick!
[One (M7) General] brainimpact:
one question I've been wanting to ask but forgot is, is it possible to select which Twitter app opens when selecting a Tweet from Blinkfeed?

No biggie if its not an option out the box I guess once its out to more someone will implement such features for all blinkfeed app defaults when rooted
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
1.28?
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
Any idea if this 1.28 update has bought back the back+ menu functionality?
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

No, but probably in future updates.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Wonder when som crazy reviewers will start doing the nutty droptests and fireing-assault-rifle-on-phone-tests on the one :)?
[One (M7) General] puremind:
This seems like something that can be circumvened through other players...It seems the HTC player has an incorrect gamma. Do you know if other HTC phones have had gamma settings in their player?

Since this is not a limiation of the device, there will most likely be workarounds.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys remember how eerie the One images looked similar to the DNA in TechnoBuffalo comparison? :)

seems the images were wrong and they re-uploaded them! massively better, Xperia Z full scale detail fail again

TechnoBuffalo: HTC One vs. The Latest Smartphones – Camera Comparison
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Why assume it's a problem with the player rather than with the screen? The one aspect of the Butterly's display that is decidedly sub-par is its gamma curve.

See here: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Scre...ows-almost-perfect-calibration-by-HTC_id39893

Slide number 9.
[One (M7) General] joschi1985:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Here it is : unboxing of the black One

http://www.androidnext.de/news/htc-one-schwarz-unboxing/
[One (M7) General] mmathiou:
New HTC review from theinquirer.net

A new review from theinquirer.net.

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/review/2254085/htc-one-review

It is a pity that HTC postpone the release of the One, which definitely I believe it will be the best phone for 2013 (even if S4 is not yet out, I don't think it will be better than One)

I am afraid that HTC will not be able to fulfill the demand for this phone :( (taking into account the component shortage that is facing).
[One (M7) General] reddragon72:
Yea I and many other's emailed in and told them that the HTC One pics were indeed the HTC DNA pics LOL. They still messed up and the outdoor shade are two separate shots. The seem to have dropped one with the chair and table for all other phones and the marble slab for the HTC one.

When in a rush you make mistakes and we forgive them.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thats crazy, to mistake the images of the device in question

what the hell...
[One (M7) General] Uncledeewz:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yes, you can :) you can also add Facebook
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
by the way after finally seeing Engadget's full size samples, the JPEG compression amount is fine with files reaching around 1.5MB
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
funny though :) the article title

Screen comparison of Sony Xperia Z vs HTC Butterfly shows almost perfect calibration by HTC
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Well, in all respects other than gamma, it's very impressive.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
to quote the conclusion
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes maybe it's a cost of nailing those perfect view angles?
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Can't wait to see plastic GS4 ;)
[One (M7) General] eg1122:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

They might have given retailers info on release in Germany but those dates were never made public by HTC. They did not publicly specify a date, so I stand by my post.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/ask-modaco-the-htc-one-r995?st=50#commentsStart
[One (M7) General] skivnit:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

You buy a phone to show off? Buy a vertu then. If you want a top of the range specs then it wouldn't matter if it's plastic glass or paper.

Swyped from another galaxy
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you got it all wrong my friend

so very off :)

you really think it's about "Showing off"? its about feel and enjoyment

judging by how many Samsung fans are begging for metal as well, lets be fair
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
Latest tweet from Shen Ye...

RT @shen_ye Seeing as the digitizer on the One extends beyond the screen and are used in the capa buttons, maybe the HTC logo can be mapped as a button.

I wish this was true
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
You want best performance? go and get a xbox360 or a PS3
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
what are you planning to do with your 32113123123121 core cpu mr top range specs samsung fan :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ok hold your horses :)

back on topic
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Object removal feature walk through by P4U. This feature I love most.

http://youtu.be/yltb23u8JJg
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Slashgear: HTC One Review [2013]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One reportedly coming to Verizon later this year

Modaco: HTC One, Your TV remote
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

When do you guys expect s off to be achieved? :)
[One (M7) General] skivnit:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Lol... Seriously?

If it wasn't for the power then why buy the HTC one. What you gonna do with the 2gb ram, powerful processor etc etc? Stick to a Nokia 3310. It's only convenient when it suits you. :rolleyes:

Anyway I'm not a Samsung fan I had iphones before and Nokia.

To each it's preferences

Swyped from another galaxy
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nice photos from the slashgear review
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Yet more criticism of the battery life. I think some people owe the Verge reviewer an apology! Almost every full review I've seen so far has rated it as average at best.

Another annoying little snippet in the Slashgear review:

That bugs me. How can they put that much effort into the phone's speakers and end up with mediocre call quality? :( (Being partially deaf, having loud, clear audio in the earpiece really matters to me).
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys check the comments from the corrected Techno Buffalo comparsion

sort the comments by the newest

everyone is extremely impressed

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/03/12/htc-one-vs-latest-smartphones-camera-comparison/
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Don't make me laugh, what spec?

you want spec check my PC on my signature.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Updated the photo thread. Amazing pics :)

---------- Post added at 11:11 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:58 PM ----------

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-arrives-at-the-office-we-snap-some-camera-samples/
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Dude you have been harping on every bit of negative news.

Most review say battery is good to average and anybody who said it bad has used questionable methods to review it.

I've read 2 review today from Phonescoop and Techradar I think that says audio is above all other flagship smartphones.

Can you please stop your vendetta against this device?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
now take it easy there

i wanted a T4 or T4i in my HTC One as well

s600 barely makes it in my opinion (in terms of GPU)

mobile gaming is big so i don't agree with you guys ignoring blindly

look at Tegra 3, more and more games are taking advantage of it and lately its been awe inspiring, Bladeslinger, Real Boxing and AVP, many are running in better visual quality on T3 and SGS3 than the s600

with 1080p display you will need every bit of GPU power you can have

but i don't think the Exynos octa with 4+4 cores + 3 core gpu is the ideal solution either, thermals are definite worry

the news is that for the american version had heat trouble with the processor + LTE modems, this is why the snapdragon 600 was used

anyway i look forward SGS4 analysis by Anandtech

in the USA however the One will be a clear winner since both will use the same prcoessor
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hamdir, wondering if you like mobile gaming so much why not getting your self a PS Vita?

I tried to convince my self to play FPS on my gf One X, but man didn't enjoyed it at all on such small screen with horrible controls :rolleyes:

yes you can play it with game pad but then again that is not for me, I love keyboard and mouse :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I enjoy gaming on mobile devices, in fact i enjoy their controls, just like hordes of other Android and iPhone owners! sue me man!!!!

gaming on ur smartphone is not like carrying a silly gaming device around with u all the time, in fact i wouldn't even consider Nvidia's Project Shield

If you dont like to game on your smartphone does this allow you to dismiss smartphone gamers? why else are billion dollars worth games are being developed non stop?
[One (M7) General] bananelol:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Didnt check if allready mentioned
[One (M7) General] paorpas:
very well :D
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
GSMArena
[One (M7) General] combat goofwing:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/311916172738183169/photo/1

good photo test v nexus
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Blown out LOL
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
First proper video of the black one and the video is private?!:eek::crying::(

*pulls hair out whilst simultaneously punching baby and kitten in the face, kicking dog and slapping wife with a cold fish across the face*:eek:
[One (M7) General] dilster97:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Are you an octopus?

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.8(Variant 1 CPU)

XM-#226

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 2003 SE 4.21
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
exactly ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
haha insane
[One (M7) General] combat goofwing:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

phone scoop round up

After a solid two days with the One, exploring and testing every feature inside and out, I’m impressed. The camera is one of the best I’ve ever seen on a phone. The sound is the best I’ve heard on a phone. The screen is the best I’ve seen on a phone. The engineering is astonishing and the design, lust-worthy. With solid performance and no major faults, this is an easy phone to recommend.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I was driving back home and I remembered this!

you guys will not believe

www.minimallyminimal.com/2010/7/11/htc-1.html

HTC has clearly listened to this

old HTC 1 concept
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
when was this made? dafac
[One (M7) General] vapotrini:
Black looks really good in GSMArenas first look... but wow, what a finger print magnet.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
July 2010 :laugh:

I remember we were lusting for this back then

glad HTC returned to their HTC legend full metal silver plus black roots

thanks to this, I'm definitely getting the one in silver
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
that guy was smart lol htc should have swooped him up a long time ago.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Making a render vs an actual production devices, big difference.
[One (M7) General] TimsterRS4:
I'd buy that immediately !
[One (M7) General] paorpas:
The technology behind the display is Super

LCD3, which we already saw on the Butterfly

and DROID DNA . It’s excellent and HTC has

even found a way to improve color

saturation slightly. It’s easily the best

screen on a smartphone bar none

(considering quality and size).

gsmarena
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
Yes i realize that, but it is the first step
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
but u can't deny how close it is

stereo speakers and the front silver borders
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
One for Hamdir

Brian Klug tweeted “Don’t worry, it’ll just draw 6-9 watts for a second” is the new “just the tip just for a second"

Me pushing:)

"6 to 9 watts in a smartphone?, that is getting throttled more than Bart after Homer spent the evening at Moe's"

Brian Klug "Precisely"

Could this refer to the Exynos Octa:laugh: As I keep pointing out, smartphones are constrained by battery / heat issues, imagine if Samsung's Octa horsepower advantage, vanishes in sustained use, because it is forced to throttle aggressively. Snapdragon 600 is the smart choice this generation, can't wait for Anandtech's battery life results. Oh, Snapdragon 600's highest GLbenchmark in Egypt HD 1080p is now 41.9 FPS, there is a lot of potential in this chip.
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
I have ambidextrous toes. :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh it will throttle, there is no question, especially the gpu if clocked at 533mhz

but Sammy wouldnt care as long as the first 15 minutes waws everyone
[One (M7) General] omersak:
And then everyone will go out and buy the damn thing.

It really is hard for anyone to compete with this level of sheepery
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes I really worry Samsung will drive this whole industry to commercialism, shampoo cosmetics style
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
The camera

Hello everybody, This will be my first post here. I'm from Sweden and my english isn't perfect. But anyway:

I've preordered the silver One and really love this phone aldready. Can't wait for get my hands on it. The only thing that has been worrying me a bit is the camera, that the details may suffer from the 4 megapixels. But I've read thru this thread and after seeing a lot of really lovely camera samples I'm not as worried as before.

But it seems that the opinions differ a lot. In the comment field in the blog page at Gsm Arena where they are comparing HTC One and Sony Xperia Z a moderator from GSM Arena says this:

"HTC One's camera is good, very good even. But it's not a flagship camera and definitely is not a camera for a flagship. And I don't envy the guys in the stores who will have to explain why 4MP are better than 8 or 13 every single time a customer asks about the HTC One. Especially when the end results is not that impressive as the marketing suggests."
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
IF it throttles it won't take minutes, you are talking seconds if the SoC exceeds its maximum watt limit. It isn't like the Nexus 4, that artificially throttled, because the temperature cuttoff points were set stupidly low.

One of the workloads that will hit the A15s hard is web browsing, especially as the latest Chromium Android builds are happily using 3 cores, because of new HTML parse threading techniques. Expect Samsung to throw Sunspider in ours faces, as it completes so quickly.

It also explains why the leaked Antutu for the Octa were not that much higher than the HTC One, 25,000 vs 22,000 and much lower than Tegra 4 @ 36,000, when that tablet was allowed to use as much power as required, despite using the same quad A15s, clocked only 100 MHz higher. Gaming might not be so bad, if the A7s can cope with bulk of the CPU workload, leaving the GPU more power allocation.

HTC release Kernel sources and I BUYZ YOUZ:cowboy:
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

A lot of reviews so far seem to disagree with this. I agree it's going to be a pain for the people selling the phone as Joe Public thinks bigger is better.
[One (M7) General] puremind:
It is not screen related. It is a calibration choice. It doesn't have to be the player's doing. Gamma is the easiest thing to fix when you have that much brightness at your disposal in a screen.

What is strange though is that the gamma curve says the exact opposite, namely the One X shows too much shadow detail. This is not good for battery performance (hence why Samsung have black crush on their devices). Anyway the reviewer's comment is not very helpful? The image is dark how? At low or high stimulus?

I think what he probably means is that gamma is too high at low stimulus, creating a black crush situation, but it is hard to say without the actual measurements or experiencing the device myself.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I don't care about subjective and polarized opinions

I have seen enough samples to be impressed today, now in really looking forward this camera

ill suppot HTC all the way on this
[One (M7) General] Brillormen:
Yes, I saw that many on the opposite thought it was a really great phone and the pics I've seen here is good. Guess I'm worried for nothing. I'm not planning on print out posters either. Have an iPhone 4S today and uses that as my regular camera.

---------- Post added at 11:31 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:27 PM ----------

I agree that the samples were good. Guess I'm worried for nothing and that I should trust my own eyes instead of others opinions.
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the same consume as the haswell?
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Guys check this nice x-ray style picture.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Hard to know exactly, Haswell is rumored to go under 10 watts. As a quick guide Anandtech, measured that the dual-core Exynos 5250 (A15) attempted to maintain an overall power envelope of 4W. So the 6 to 9 watts figure would not be the consistent power draw, but an occasional figure, the SoC would then quickly throttle, to maintain a lower power figure.

My point, HTC seems to have chosen the right SoC this time.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Htc One vs. DNA

http://youtu.be/kZN_dafUHi8
[One (M7) General] BigNate:
thats crazy, i remember seeing this a couple years back. they really did listen haha its almost the complete design sheet for the ONE!
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Wouldn't be nice if the dev edition of the One is really a transparent unibody made of, let's say, fiber glass? :p:D
[One (M7) General] mouzaihem:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I could really use the HTC one right now. HOX just decided to suffer the WiFi issue seven months after purchase :confused::(
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

My HOXL has a broken power button, screen, and microphone.... I'm hoping it comes out soon
[One (M7) General] mouzaihem:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Your situation makes my phone look fabulous :p
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yeah, my phone also has a broken power button. Good old volume wake and sleep!
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Heads up guys: I can confirm that the One is coming to AT&T! (model PN07120)

We've got it in our American branch.
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

... We knew that already since it was announced by HTC

Unless you know a specific date?
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Woops, didn't know it was announced. Never mind.
[One (M7) General] mnbrennan:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It wouldn't be transparent then!!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
man Brian seems to be cooking one mega HTC One review for Anandtech

HTC One:

Lumia 920:

iPhone5:

https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/312117420359839744
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@Turbo you can see clearly the pyramid design, Heat metal spreader over chipsets over PCB over battery

you think T4 would have worked in this? Phoenix reference dictates the PCB to be placed side of battery away from it's heat
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
The One has better color balance but is noisier than lumia 920 in these photos,iphone5 is caca
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
One got 5 of 5 in the gadget show review:

http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadgets/phones/htc-one

Here´s their take on the camera.

"The result is an incredibly fast shutter speed (seriously) and lots of detail in images, even in low light situations where most camera phones fails miserably - we’re looking at you, BlackBerry Z10.

Frankly, the results are superb. The HTC One always delivered (though the low resolution makes zooming difficult), with crisp, noise free shots every bit as good as those from the Xperia Z, if not better. "
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
what's most important in this is that despite the 50% loss in pixels, there is really not much lost coming down compared to Lumia

this only leaves daylight detail as the only compromise

let's not forget Brian was using a tirpod, the One has a dramatically higher chance of snapping sharp photos in normal use due to the optical OIS and faster shutter speed

i'm yet to see one low light Lumia 920 shot taken by normal users without motion blur
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i think we should all take it easy on HTC their 4MP is beating Sony's 13MP sensor in most scenarios, that's really saying something

and you gain a much sharper Lumia 920 level of low light, small file size and Zoe features

one thing for sure, 13MP sensors should be a big NO for smartphones, i have seen some shocking noise on the Sony
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
From the rumours... the sgs4 is having a 13 mp sensor.. interested to see if they manage anything better than the Xperia Z
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
From GSM Arena (link):

They didn't really take the perfectly colour-calibrated display in the Butterfly and then deliberately over-saturate the colours, did they? :(
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it was clearly explained by all techies how a 13MP tiny pixels means distorted high level of detail noise

Sony is smudging the hell out of it's image to hide that noise

i doubt Samsung invented a solution

the One might have issues fighting with 8MP devices, but to me against 13MP it clearly wins out

im not willing to kill low light this badly for the sake of those MPs

this image speaks it all
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Brian just responded to me :laugh:

https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/312140558128779264
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
This is GSMARENA battery test for Xperia Z can we get more than that on our HTC One? many folks most complaining about the battery problem in Xperia Z but this test reveal different story

link here:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-xperia...me-the-scores/

and about photo compare between Z and One:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/htc-one-arrives-at-the-office-we-snap-some-camera-samples/

I can see One struggle here a bit, what you guys think?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
wide distance shots will show the benefit of the 13MP sensor, closeups and low light is another story however
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I find GSMArena a bit SonyArena in the last days... They rate Sony's smartphones high, and battery and camera test you can see, a bit biased I think