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[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
True..

i always thought Sony had the best optics(from all their camera experience).. if sony cant make a 13MP mobile camera.. i cant see Samsung being good with one.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
am i the only who think this is an easy battle?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/13/galaxy-s-iv-chinese-leak-pics-hover-s-pen/

i mean comeon! cross hatch back!!!
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
First link doesn´t work...
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
how can samsung designers NOT do better than that? it looks like absolute sh*t
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is nothing to fix, all the experts told you its impossible to do better on a 13MP small sensor without enlarging the camera module

its a physical problem

remember the 920 camera module which is still 8MP contributes heavily to weight and size
[One (M7) General] beno619:
I really want this to be the real deal ! But I still think samsung are too clever to give the S4 away and there must be a big feature we havent heard about.

The biggest hurdle for HTC is going to be the marketing :confused:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]aGzO_Dqf-ZU[/YOUTUBE]

the black One on video, for those who missed it yesterday
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
why should they when it's selling so well

in fact every generation aims for more profits and cheaper material

just like fast food ;)
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
If there is something always keeping me of buying samsung phones it's their plastic crap design.

Comparing the One to the sgs4 is like compairing a Rolls Royce with a kia
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
try this:

http://blog.gsmarena.com/sony-xperia-z-battery-test-is-ready-here-come-the-scores/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
don't insult my kia man

my Sportage is a full metal unibody as well :laugh:

at least kia realized this and been working their asses to get better, as much as having an entire Euorpean design team to help, quality is sky high on their new models

yup already broken :laugh:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Samfans are seriously buthurt, its damage limitation time, "Its whats inside that counts" lol
[One (M7) General] omersak:
Rumors going around that the leaked S4 images are from a prototype and the real design will be different.

I really hope that's the real design - it'll be a cakewalk for the HTC One if it is. It's the only way to take a behemoth like Samsung down - it's what led to Apples downfall against Samsung too - same, uninspired and safe design and lack of innovation. People are going to want something fresh and switch to the One.
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
What people can't see is HTC One getting sooo many customers from iPhone rather than Samsung. Because it is pretty much the first time android phone makers making a premium phone with every aspect.

I hope HTC can keep up this quality with their flagships every year.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
looks pretty final to me, that plastic is gonna take some serious bending with all the heat as well :)

but we will see, not long now
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
More leaked videos, it looks more and more that that's the real deal

[YOUTUBE]jCAtRNiYBmI[/YOUTUBE]

But anyway, unless HTC gets their sh*t together in the marketing departement, people will never hear about the One and they'll buy the S4 no matter how ugly it is.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
there is a problem

reviewers need to start punching Samsung just like android police did on the Note 10.1

otherwise Samsung will not give a damn and keep pushing for more profit per device
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
According to Sammobile it's a prototype but then again it's a sammy fanboy site

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/14/breaking-more-images-galaxy-s-iv-duos-showed-up/
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
Floating Touch looks kinda awesome tbh :)

Regarding the 3-dot Menu on the One:

Brian Klug thinks that Google has something to do with it, according to his Twitter messages.
[One (M7) General] prfrma:
Looking forward to all the overly inflated expectations on the S4 defusing like an old balloon in the next few weeks.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
I think this year they will, Quality build and design has been on the lips of every tach site this year,

Apple got bashed for the low res display of the iPad mini, I think Samsung will get called out as well.

Design and software differentiation is the biggest point reviews are looking at this year.
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
Some reviewers said that setting long-press back to menu breaks some functionality in apps that use that action. Maybe that's why Google asked them to remove it.
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

http://www.phonedog.com/2013/03/14/htc-one-camera-images-gallery/

from my HTC Sensation XE with Beats Audio Z715e using xda app-developers app
[One (M7) General] combat goofwing:
http://www.dailymobile.net/2013/03/14/galaxy-siv-gt-i9502-hands-on-videos-showing-new-features/

loads of s4 videos here and if this is it then it looks just like the s3 to me ,while the HTC pushes the boundaries on desgin,camera,software, it seems the S$ will adopt the apple approach , a lit tweak here and there and pass it off as the next big thing
[One (M7) General] kenny17430:
TO be honest its more like comparing an Aston martin (HTC) to a nissan GTR, as in term of raw power samsung is a tiny ahead, but compare it to the design and pleasure of driving HTC is ahead ^^
[One (M7) General] m00moo:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Lmao. U guys here saying how u want HTC to own Samsung etc are just as bad of fanboys than any other. Buy what u want and don't hate on another. If u don't like it don't buy it. Htc hit it this time with the premium feel but remember, every flagship will be different and change look and shape. What might appeal to you now might not down the line.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lots of us did not even buy the One yet (most) we are still potential customers considering all options

if the SGS4 was built well and give us more power, a lot of us will not think twice

more importantly we primarily android lovers and we care about the eco system and what Samsung been doing is not healthy at all, even Google is concerned
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
There's no hate going on in my opinion. for myself, I prefer buying what is best, why would I (or anyone) blindly buy a brand if they are no good. At the moment I don't see any reason for buying S4. 8 cores cpu is not necessary in general, and only interesting feature of the phone is that eye-scroll thingy. Rest of phone is not worth the money, on the other hand HTC One worths it.

And one last thing (again my personal opinion), people should never buy blindly from any brand. I mean yeah, you can have some sympathy against some brands but at the end of the day, they should please you, not the other way around. :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes they said the same about the Nexus 10 leak and it turned out to have a slight improved paint
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this image shows ultra pixel at its best
[One (M7) General] naouris:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The HTC One coming on top of the Nokia 920 and the icrap 5 in a camera test

http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/03/htc-one-ultrapixel-camera-how-does-it-stack-up/
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/312176236984168449
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup we are almost forgetting about the metering flash as well

it nevers burns an image, unlike most (we have this on the One X)
[One (M7) General] naouris:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Android Central comparing the HTC One to the Nexus 4, although the latter is a great phone it doesn't stand a chance against the HTC One

http://m.androidcentral.com/htc-one-versus-lg-nexus-4
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Check this out, BRG intentionally misses out on the cracked back image

http://bgr.com/2013/03/14/samsung-galaxy-s-iv-photos-leak-374790/

lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys just heads up, i'm constantly updating my Ultrapixel collective post

these photo reveal over sharpening quiet well, but like always you need to lower the sharpness on HTC devices, i think -1 would be fine, anyway i';m pleased with the level of detail in this distance photo
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nice loving these comments on how light Sense is, let's hope trolls can stop shouting "bloat"

HTC One

Nexus 4
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://store.three.co.uk/New_HTC_Phone?id=1243
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

Why so much hate on the iPhone :( ...

Anyway why does Samsung add these ugly texture on the sgs4, and it seems that they are adding a lot of useless features just for the sake of it .

Have you guys saw the padfone infinity display? It seems that the padfone has a much better display vision angles then all other devices, it is almost perfect.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i agree after what Samsung been doing, i honestly chose Apple as my second best (until Sony and Google fix quality on their phones)

did you not see the angles on the HTC One X? how can you better this?
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
sgs4 is targeted for teenagers,that's why their only will is to put the best performance possible,though for all the rest it's not on par with HTC One.

The One is for all ages and more for 20-60 years old than teens that's why the premium look and materials are chosen as well as improvements in ALL domains like screen,speakers,camera,IR,Sense5...Performance is excellent too without betting on useless 8 cores.
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
@Hamdir

Paul O'Brien is all over it. Everyone should check out his site, he's been updating daily with different little reviews of the One's features. Very good read and he's loving it so far!

http://www.modaco.com/page/news

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/ask-modaco-the-htc-one-r995

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-one-blinkfeed-r997

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-one-double-dip-hard-shell-case-r999

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-one-boomsound-r1000

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/htc-one-your-tv-remote-r1002

http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/a...h-superboot-bootloader-unlock-a-problem-r1003

IMHO if Paul's loving it then it's gotta be a good phone lol....and yes I am a MoDaCo sheep in a way but there's not many peoples word I'd trust more ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i already posted all of them except this one

last year he helped fix unlock problems with HTC One X, so lets hope they will sort it out quick
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Ah I should have searched....muppet!!

I reckon he'll have it sussed before the majority have their phone :)
[One (M7) General] m00moo:
LOL fail.

You are buying a phone for being asthetically pleasing to look at only, as you have no arguement or evidence that the S4 is weaker in any department i.e Power, Camera, Audio, Battery life, SW Features. You said " I prefer buying what is best", and so you happen to already know that the HTC One is the best because?! Because the S4 is plasticy? lol

Regarding the 8 core thing. Unecessary you say? No actually because it is designed to save alot of battery over the traditional quad core set up. You have no idea what the camera is on the S4, No idea about the screen quality, no idea about the Audio quality, yet you are bashing it due to being i quote "no good" based on the fact it looks the feels the same as S3.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just one thing, we are bashing in a HTC forum is it not?

that's perfectly all right mate ;)

and stop insulting everyone by sayign we need it to look better, no we need it to feel better, last better and therefore enjoy it better, plus lets not forget survivability = protection of your investment + resale value

i had a slightly broken SGS3 (it was broken in pocket) that i sold one month after release and it incured a 50% loss, not to mention the ridiculous quotation for fixing the screen on another, meanwhile my One X suffered a direct collision to the floor on its screen plus another collision to a concrete floor, naked and it walked out unscratched

stop forgiving Samsung for ripping you off

anyway back on topic before this gets out of hand
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
We can make some pretty likely assumptions though. It'll look similar if not the same as the S3, it'll be plastic, it'll have most likely a 5" screen at 1080p, it'll have a 13mp camera, quad core 1.8-2ghz processor imo......Not sure what else yet, but these are the assumptions I'm going with until 11 o clock tonight lol.....Maybe i'll be proven wrong but you have to wonder why Samsung would change much at all when they're already selling well, this is why we can assume they'll do little to differ from the S3. HTC needed a game changer, Samsung didn't!
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
http://asia.gamespot.com/events/game-crib-tsm-snapdragon/video.html?sid=6404185

Seems qualcomm is giving some attention to gaming. Hamdir you might want to check this out . :)
[One (M7) General] monakh:
I think this is a great device but why can't HTC use a multi-RGB LED for notifications like Samsung for crying out loud? For the naysayers, the option should be available to turn it off or dumb it down. I don't mind the lack of SD or the non-removable battery but as someone who has owned HTC devices for over ten years, this really pisses me off. Why can't they get this one right?!
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
+1!

If your going to include a LED indicator, make it a multi colord one! It is such a basic feature and HTC could even use it as a selling feature ^^
[One (M7) General] danw_oz:
Same here, and in addition to you comment about RAW, you do not loose colour information (higher dynamic range) because of the reduced bit rate of jpg.
[One (M7) General] ryanjsoo:
Does this phone also have an amp in the headphone jack and will it actually improve audio quality like a fiio e6 or just increase volume. I want to know as they said that the one x+ had an amp in the headphone jack but when it was released it didn`t.
[One (M7) General] hrcro:
Is there any info yet about battery life?
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
I agree with the LED. What HTC should have done: leave the logo and put a LED between the two buttons.

Come on HTC, hire me, I will make you more moneyz.

Seriously, the LED is always lacking on HTC phones. My Desire had a better LED than the One X...it isn't that important to me, but it certainly would make the phone to stand out more.
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
Just be gad that they didn't make a led like Blackberry :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
someone from elevate posted this

he took the same photo with the two phones, sames settings, you can see how much better the low light is

---------- Post added at 10:16 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 AM ----------

we will see they attempted this before in their snapdragon game center and it was left deserted ;)

as for the LED discussion, who cares guys really, you can't complain about a whole device just because of this, many Samsung devices don't even have an LED notification ;) i personally love the hidden notification light inside the grill on my One X, so subtle and "high tech"

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and here is some more feedback from Alex at Elevate regarding boomsound and blinkfeed
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
@hamdiir

It is certainly no dealbreaker, not at all. Didn't want to make the impression that I care TOO much about the LED :) It would just be another +. The LED on the One X is more or less useless in my opinion (even if it sits perfectly behind a tiny hole in the speaker grill). It would have certainly made sense to put a LED between the buttons instead of the logo (or make the logo the LED, how awesome would that be?). But maybe they have other reasons, so yeah, whatever :>

Edit: And see, without the X/S/V, the slogan "The one I want" really holds now. It simply didn't work last year, they haven't thought it through :)

BlinkFeed as expected. Kinda cool, but well. There are already apps for that, but it's cool that it's implemented in a nice looking homescreen.

And up until now there is only very positive feedback on the speakers, that's very nice. In contrast to last year, where they mainly advertised their sound with beats, this is a REAL plus now.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One vs. iPhone 5 camera shootout

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Android 4.2 still Google exclusive, None of the manufacturers have it
[One (M7) General] CursiveQ:
hi guys, i have been considering either the HTC One or the Xperia Z. I was leaning towards the Z because of the dev support and water proofing. I have the One X for ATT and love it. My question is, are good devs already planning to get the One?

I assume since the devices will all be the same now, a lot more developers will be able to work together for CM10 and AOKP/AOSP.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
clearly the One X wins in at least four major areas

the screen is massively better, the sound, processor is 40% faster on CPU and GPU front and ofcourse build quality

this leaves the water proofing and dev support, well if u intend to swim with it, thats an easy answer ;)

as for dev currently Sony wins it hands down, so if CM is most important for u...
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yea if you want dev I imagine a lot will go to that because sony is doing quite well with releasing code and helping developers.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Hey guys unless some objects i have asked Jonas to give me control of the OP for this thread :)

the reason: I have a lot more time to maintain it and keep it up to date
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Think the red one was an error HTC said it was somewhere.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Just How Effective Is The HTC One’s “UltraPixel” Camera?

large images in the article
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hamdir will take the thread as he got more time, more insight and more experience than me on that :)

@mod please transfer the op to hamdir :) thanks
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
The S3 vs One test is very strange. First picture, the One is clearly focused on the sky, while the S3 is not. On the last picture, he didn't take a photo of the same location and as someone in the comments pointed out, it looks as if a flash was used on the One.

I think we'll just have to agree that the photos are at least competitive. How good they really are is a question we only get answered after the NDA lift.

Edit: Oh my god, just read the comments of the author of the article. He used completely auto mode and didn't even bother to use the same focal point. Wow, Pro at work. You can clearly see that in the first picture that the One is more pointed towards the sky...obvious result is obvious. Other than that, the color accuracy is better in the One, the author pointed out, (sky was in fact more reddish, like the One shows). Same conclusion is drawn in the iPhone 5 vs One comparison and Lumia comparison: the One's camera is very color accurate.
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Even i noticed that... Have you guys seen the new chrome pixel by google. It has resolution of 2560 * 1700.. Most of the upcoming laptops might have a high res..

So it would also be interesting to find out whether the pics htc one takes would be good on a high res laptop or similar ones..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] ribe10:
There now are also 2 dutch reviews available:

Tweakers.net review:

tweakers.net/reviews/2966/htc-one-een-schoonheid-met-kleine-imperfecties.html

Hardware.info (NL)

nl.hardware.info/reviews/4083/htc-one-review-de-beste-smartphone-ooit

Both agree that it's a brilliant phone, probably the best android phone on the market right now. However the camera is a disappointment, it produces good low light photo's but in daylight it just loses too much detail.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks fixed your links

i'm fine with this though ;) photos from the Hardware.info site

VERY IMPRESSIVE
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Has to be said I think most review sites haven't had all that long with the phone and don't give the camera a proper run through. I'm sure with a few tweaks here and there it'll perform just fine. I have an old 5mp digital camera at home that I can still get some blistering shots from and that's very old tech now. This may be a camera on a phone and only 4mp but the tech has advanced a long way!

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Yeh, not much wrong here!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lol check my post again

actually some of these are amazing
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Haha yeh I just saw!! Truly amazing shots! I want to get my hands on this phone. Who gives a crap about the amount of MP when it can clearly produce amazing shots. And anyway if you're a photographer printing large photo's surely you're going to use a DSLR anyway right?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
can't wait to try this camera with reduced sharpness

i freaking love it

to be honest i feel they now completed what they started with the One X camera, the camera is no complete (the bold green lines are the new improved abilities, bold red are compromised features)

- Super Fast shutter, much reduced motion blur

- Super fast focus

- Best HDR in class

- Smart Metering Flash light

- Stunning daylight image enhancements

- Stunning daylight detail from One X reduced on the new ultrapixel camera

- Optical OIS reducing motion blur further

- Excellent noiseless low light

- Excellent macro focus

These leaves only tweaknesses, the color balance is currently too much on the warm side and over exposing bright areas (due to the light loving sensor) which can all be tweaked in software

HTC have rewritten the One X camera app from scratch for the JB update which dramatically enhanced the view finder speed, they also improved many of the focus, white balance and low light issues

i have no doubt they will do the same for the new camera
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
It's definitely the biggest step in the right direction I've seen from any phone in recent years. Everyone else is just pushing and pushing for higher MP, when really HTC have seen what people actually need and nailed it like a mother f*cker!!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
updated my post check again ;)
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Nothing's changed?

Still the same few epic shots from the 'current' worlds most awesome handset ;)

Edit:

Just seen, the post below.......Yes they really have done a fine job.....I'm sure it's been many years in the making. But the main thing for me is that they really do seem to understand what people want and need from a phone. Of course other manufacturers do as well and I'm not bashing anyone here but it's quite clear that Apple and Samsung are simply just knocking out iterative devices one after another and then marketing them very well to make the impressive sales that they do.
[One (M7) General] yanouch:
Is it me or the pictures of the germans reviewers suffers of the blurry edges as some others testers suggested it ?

For me, these pictures are really good except the first one (street) and the fourth one (river) where the bottom right and right side of the photos are very blurry :confused:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
seems to be a rare focus bug, we don't see it in so many other images (i check for it everytime)

so mostly likely software and will be fixed
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Blurry or out of focus? Think it depends on what the point of focus might have been but without being there it's hard to know!

Bearing in mind a camera on a phone (no matter how good) wont ever have the range of focus you could expect from a DSLR......
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
surely it just depends where they tapped to focus??

that's understandable - like a pro-focus mode on slr, no?