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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lovely photos...

they look very good downscaled, sadly at full size there isn't much detail

i dont think i agree with HTC that 4MP is the sweet spot

JPG compression is very aggressive as well...

color balance, dynamic range and low light are great as expected
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Thanks for the heads up on that one Hamdir :)

I think even though I'm a gamer I'll go for the One, as you say we'll be able to squeeze more performance out of it to a certain limit, day one root for me too!

Maybe we'll be seeing Renovate Gaming Boost App for the One???

If we can then I think switching to performance govenor might help but who knows at this stage.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
OT: http://www.expansys.com/samsung-galaxy-S4

:)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no no im expecting the qualcomm governor to do the trick, if HTC included it like they did on the DNA

check my post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=38635095&postcount=175
[One (M7) General] skr_xd:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Quoted from site,

" Careful: these are not official characteristics and are subject to change after the official device announcement. "
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Marvelous, thanks for the link to your other post.

:good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One UltraPixel camera review

back to Jonathon Choo article check this, not really so positive, the conclusion seems "we expected better", so basically day light is good, low light noise is not as good as expected neither is dynamic range, HDR is slightly better than the One X producing more natural results, panorama is good and auto mode is very good, colors accuracy representative of real life colors, white balance is very good, OIS not doing wonders, he said knowing how HTC updated the camera software on the One X and Nokia fixed the Lumia 920 the focus issues he expects the software to get better, there is a weird bug blurring images at the bottom
[One (M7) General] BlancoJr:
Really bad camera quality...

I really hope the crappy image quality is from a pre production firmware. Because it can't get any worse than this on a 2013 flagship phone...

As expected from a 4mp camera, the detail isn´t really there. Almost every image looks like the jpg compression is to hard with a lot of jpg artifacts. All images look like they are a bit out of focus. There is not enough sharpness and lots of noise in low light images. Just look at the church image extremely large amount of noise at the top and completely blurred out at the bottom. : http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-i6PYAx_DN...St+Albans+Cathedral+Abbey+low+light+night.jpg

Or the image over the city. Looks like a 5 year old phone camera: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-hmoXWF_Ck...&+East+London+from+Paramount+Centre+Point.jpg

This is not the quality a "300% more light" camera should produce! Sure, you can get brighter photos in dark conditions, but at what quality?

Do not mistake good composition and a skilled photographer with good quality pictures.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm sure HTC will sort it out with a few updates, they did with the HOX.

I'm still abit shocked at the fact it's only 4MP in the HO, I'm hoping that I won't notice a massive change in picture quality when I move on from my HOX...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea with this 4MP call they should produce mind blowing photos to convince the crowds

some notable heads up from the review
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes it's mind boggling they would compress these images so severely despite being 4MP and after treating them using the image sense chip at raw quality

and like you said we all want better low light, but at what cost? in all honesty, i can produce sharper, better images with my One X

Camera app evolved greatly on the One X, especially performance and issues

but i don't expect the image quality itself to get much better than this

however the most pressing matter is the JPEG compression in my opinion, some of the full scale photos are as low as 200kb!

I can't believe HTC is gonna base all their design choices on the social consumption, its funny how they let Facebook decide the course of technology....some people strongly oppose facebook by the way

The way i see it at the moment HTC is heading into the niche segment...

I feel a lot of the HTC One is going to alienate Android's hardcore
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Interesting. This might be the wrong thread for it as there's a different thread for the benchmark and GPU performance, but I just have to add that the GPU tests I've ran on the One was on version 1.0x, an even earlier firmware. I wonder if the newer firmwares would bring improvements on that department.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
its the mega thread, everything HTC One belongs here actually
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
one more Benchmark video:

[YOUTUBE]wijp79uCwFg[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Yep HTC should have adopted 13mp as planned instead of playing the risky 4mp ultrapixel choice.

It's too late now,perhaps a One+ will have the 13mp sensor in late summer.

Anyway it's VERY easy to change camera's jpeg compression by playing with camera.prop or media.profiles (meaning root needed)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
dont think iSwitchers will appreciate all this "Fixing" :)

anyway the past few days been very barren regarding the HTC One actual information

we are 10 days away from the actual launch and we are still discussing "pre launch software"
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Modaco: Patched Play Store for 1080 devices released
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
http://androidadvices.com/htc-one-india-launch/
[One (M7) General] mrhahn98:
The blur you see in some images, i'm guessing it's because of the OIS not working properly at times which rotate/displace the lens incorrectly some times which created that blur that looks some how like DOF, or something out of an tilt-shift lens.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
waw releasing tomorrow and not real review from the usual outlets
[One (M7) General] jesr:
I hadn't noticed the new display unlock, had you? From 4:00min on. Also what you think about the location of the on/off button?

[YOUTUBE]cqVqudq4N5o[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] :
I saw that. Animation is nice. What interests me is, how it works when I open a folder on lockscreen..
[One (M7) General] radiotrib:
but ... look at the last line in the so-called advertisement ...
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Display unlock is nice.. but I find it annoying that they chose the on/off button on the top left.. waant in top right on one x?. I figure it would be hard to reach out there and people might need to use two hands sometimes to unlock it..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Maybe the left handed people would benefit from that..
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm going to miss the ring unlock, how can we jump straight into certain apps now?

Was it shown?
[One (M7) General] kenny17430:
Its almost the same as the ring, you put your finger on one of the 4 icones, and drag it top the top of the screen (like the new unlock system) and it will launch the app.
[One (M7) General] Chillz88:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Sarcasm?? Lol.. shouldnt a device be directed toward the usability friendliness towards a right handed person.. or maybe since htc sales are so low, they might be trying to get atleast the left handed people this time around..

The same way you swipe the lock icon up, you can swipe the app icons on the lockscreen too to open them from the lockscreen...easier and faster than before with not much useless amimation as before..

Tapatalkedddd...!!!!!
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
I like the unlock animation, very slick. Didn't get chance to play around with it at the City Tour because a demo popped up if you switched the screen off and then on again.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
In my opinion, it's easier to unlock a device with the right hand, if the power button is on the upper left side. It's easier with the left hand, if it's on the right. The finger is just closer to the power button this way.

However, I wouldn't call it "better" for right handed people this way, because as a right handed person, I also use the left hand very frequently to hold/unlock the phone.

So yeah, it really doesn't matter that much to me...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes upper left is more convenient, im glad they went back to it
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC to bring Blinkfeed and Ultrapixel to its mid-range phones
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
In Jon Choo's review

http://jonchoo.blogspot.se/2013/03/htc-one-camera-review-image-samples.html

I am still testing the battery life, but here's an example. On my first day, I shot 300+ pictures, some HD videos, being on 3G the entire time, occasional Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, Foursquare etc., the battery finally gave up after about 9 hours 30 mins. I think it's pretty good!

That is actually quite good battery.. my htc one x cannot last more than 3-4 hours if i start taking pics..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
to add some prespective

HTC One camera review by Jon Choo (pre release software):

http://jonchoo.blogspot.se/2013/03/htc-one-camera-review-image-samples.html

Lumia 920 camera review by Jon Choo:

http://jonchoo.blogspot.com/2012/12/nokia-lumia-920-camera-review.html

One X camera review by Jon Choo:

http://jonchoo.blogspot.com/2012/04/htc-one-x-camera-review.html

HTC 8X camera review by Jon Choo::

http://jonchoo.blogspot.com/2013/01/htc-8x-camera-review.html

all his reviews on pre release or early software

for example the corrupt image issue in the One X was fixed very early, and the Lumia focus issue was fixed as well

if you ask me, i still prefer the One X camera out of the three...in daylight quality
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Hey Hamdir, I think we will have the One in Beirut in 2 weeks (HTC Solutions) but will cost a leg,in 3 weeks at Amhaz,and add another 2 weeks so the price decrease about 150$...so mid-april will be good.

Till then the defects of first batches will be revealed :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
more info about the cameras from the Jon Choo reviews, you see everyone shouting Lumia 920 right? except one thing, no phone matches the HTC Image sense ultra fast shutter feature, which i find essential for smartphone photography

in my opinion is the strongest asset in HTC's Image Sense and it deserves the hype more than ultrapixel

the instant focus and capture speed on my One X still waws everyone around me one year later

also HTC did not over compress on the One X, so lets hope they fix this on the One
[One (M7) General] notsointeresting:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Being left handed I would've preferred it if they had the power switch on the right like usual, but it's not a huge deal.
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I agree with hamdir on this and the left hand power button is more convienient for me being right handed. Also the fact that my inspire is this way is also out of habit.

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] reddragon72:
This is the one thing I will miss with my SGS3. The HTC Evo that I owned sucked for trying to power it one. But since the One's power button is pulling double duty I can live with it! :)
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

If I had a HTC One I would never want to power it of so the power button is irrelevant :)

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] taha198:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

You need to press power button to turn on screen
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Lol exactly LMAO
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
Allow me to introduce you to my little friend, SWIPE 2 WAKE, the only legit way to turn on a screen in the 21st century.

Power buttons are so two thousand and late.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Good luck doing that in tour first boot up without the use of a power button
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
After I boot my device for the first time, I'm literally going to break the power button off and seal the hole with shugru.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
ive never liked sweep to wake

give me hardware button any day
[One (M7) General] superchilpil:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

SWEEP 2 WAKE on this device is going to take awhile to be released

Since there is no kernel source
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
OMG what have I done? I just cancelled my preorder of the one and bought a Xperia Z :eek:

It's the speaker grills that kill it for me and the rounded black.

I much prefer the one sheet of glass on the front design and a flat back.

But I so love the many things on the one...:rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Nice handset enjoy :)
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Can devs or some method make it so the compression isn't so small ? Or is that a stupid question .....
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup very easy
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
get out of my thread :p

by the way the speaker grill is micro drilled in real life its very subtle
[One (M7) General] vizzy:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Therefore that might/could improve certain aspects regarding the images ....
[One (M7) General] snorkle:
my patients for the release of this phone is getting less and less, i may end up doing something stupid if i dont hear some official news soon. is there any update on the release?
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
Haha :laugh:

It's so hard to decide its unreal. :eek:
[One (M7) General] Dperks88:
CM10.1 is going to look shhhweet on this bad boy
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
key scratch

Hi guys,

I just created this account so i can post replies to this topic.

I think the HTC One is awesome and I'm definitely getting a silver one!

Can't post youtube link yet but hit search by yourself:

"HTC One anti scratch"

Not sure if it's the HTC One or just the HTC Butterfly
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Welcome. There's already a scratch test posted on the OP (the first post of this thread)

Sent from my DHD
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Why would you tarnish this beautiful device with cm? Sense 5 is so sexy.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I agree, sense 5 definitely looks great

Sent from my DHD
[One (M7) General] crea78:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Definitely agree!! I rather have a custom Sense 5 ROM than CM 10.1

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Well miui would look good as well :) based on sense of course.

But yeah I used to like aosp very much but over last few months I am a custom sense rom user. :)
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Th...

The only non sense Ron I'd run would be MIUI. MIUI to me is the NICEST Rom I've seen. Also the icons remind me of iOS which I've been accustomed to for about 2 and a half years so I like that. The UI is very clean, and luckily today they released version 2 of the MIUI launcher with support for 1080p devices so when I Get my One, ill be able to use that until the HTC One can be rooted, and it supported by MIUI.
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Agree on this. With large hands the top-left will be easier. Top right means I need to shift grip as it's not comfortable getting finger there with a normal grip on the phone.

M.
[One (M7) General] janarp:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I think u get CM 11 this device too... :eek:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The similar speced LG Optimus G Por Engadget review

http://www.engadget.com/2013/03/05/lg-optimus-g-pro-review/

Still scoring a lower 27fps in Egypt HD offscreen but here is the interesting bit

Equally...the camera seems impressive despite being 13MP ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
That's actually one of the reasons against waiting the mid year refresh for me :)

See HTC might relaunch with upgraded specs later and call it One+ which is all great, the problem for me, they will most likely use the red accents like every-time and one thing is a big no for me is this red hot rod thing especially on the front menu icons
[One (M7) General] rkial:
Any idea how the battery on this will perform?

The One X and the X+ were disappointing.

This will have a higher resolution screen too.

Will it at least match the S3?
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I'm planning on getting this and making it my 2 yr phone so I can hit the flagship each year, mid year refresh is too close to the next big thing imho. That is unless they are way ahead of the curve on a refresh

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
First review! Sort of :)

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/ga...t-eyecatching-premium-phones-yet-8501124.html

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This is different than the X and X+, its 28mm Snapdragon and not 40nm Tegra, Tegra has better standby time thanks to LP core but the 40nm process was too hot for quad core

Check the reviews of any snapdragon 4 pro device and expect it a little better

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Slashgear attempts to explain ultra pixels

www.slashgear.com/slashgear-101-htc-ultrapixel-camera-technology-20270335/
[One (M7) General] :
There's nothing to explain. It's just a sensor with less pixel count. These are the same pixels used in countless cameras.

EDIT: I wonder what's the point of adding polls in XDA. If we consider this as a representative sample used for market survey, any company will be jumping in joy. In XZ forum, vast majority voted that they are getting the XZ. Same applies here. I am sure it will be similar in case of GS4. This proves most poeple want to buy all the flagship phones!!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Qualcomm Reveals Two New Snapdragon SoCs: 400 & 200
[One (M7) General] :
Please don't.. Nobody asked you.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is exactly why HTC is trying to hard to explain to you people what the entire Tech world already agrees on and been screaming about for a while now...

lets try again
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Easy there pal. Hamdir is an informer and very good at it. A lot of us trust what he says cuz he's generally right. There's no need to be crass just because you(based on your post) don't understand the technical side of what HTC is trying to do. So take a chill pill man.

Anyone track down a gl bench?

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] ShyamSasi:
I was hoping for the Red one. The e-mail link I had still has Red http://www.htc.com/in/smartphones/htc-one/?cid=email_promo_HTCOneAnnounce_body_img_HTC but that removed it in this link http://www.htc.com/in/smartphones/htc-one/
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Personally, I think it would be smart for HTC to not refresh the One this year.

What would be the point of refreshing the One with the Snapdragon 800, when their model for the next year would have a Snapdragon XXX?

The jump from the S4 pro to the S600 is a 40% jump. From the S600 to 800 is a 35% jump? Why not wait for the next revision that will be far more substantial.
[One (M7) General] :
How would you know what I understand? Since you need to be spoon-fed by hamdir, I don't think you qualify to pass judgements here.

It's pretty simple here. Same standard 1/3-inch sensor which has 4 million pixels instead of 8 million or 13 million. So, obviously each individual pixel size increases. Yea, theoretically better s/n ratio. If it takes someone else to spoon-fed you this logic, you need to do something.

BTW, don't forget that you will be losing detail in properly exposed environments due to low pixel count. But I guess someone has tell you that.

H5D has a 40/50MP sensor. It must be bad because there are so many pixels!

EDIT: Since RX100 was mentioned in the material, I thought it would be a good idea to discuss on it.

Both RX100 and and the Nikon J1 has exact same sensor size (1-inch). Due to low resolution of J1 sensor, the pixel pitch or the pixel size were higher, or conversely lower pixel density. Going by pure numbers, it would seem that J1 is better than RX100. Just to show that these pixel size numbers alone doesn't mean everything. It's just one parameter.
[One (M7) General] anit77:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Umm, this whole ultrapixel thing is about having 3 4mp sensors layered on one chip. Thus giving each, larger, pixel a higher level of detail.
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
i must be mistaken, i thought that they confirmed it wasn't 3x 4MP sensors layered?

According to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhlB4IZH9Ms around the 3:10 mark its 2x 4MP sensors.
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I managed quite nicely before ever reading a single post by him and I understand what all of it means. Higher pixel count isn't always better. I don't think people by smartphones because it has the highest mp camera. If they are that into photography they will buy a proper camera. Its as simple as that. Most of these pictures won't be blown up to billboard size to be able to see every pixel. If each pixel has higher detail laced to it, it should in theory be as good as an 8 mp camera. I honestly think the camera on my inspire isn't that great and is 8mp. Honestly the Canera is not a selling point to me.

To each his own. I'm done debating the camera and don't accuse me of being spoon fed. I only said what I said because the fact that he can put more eloquently what I cannot and always has sources that we normal users don't.

Edit: At least we can agree on that point. You obviously feel strongly about the sensor being used and I can respect that fully.

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
that's a lot more useful no? and goes to show how all this needs to be explained better to the average user, megapixels is not everything ;)

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Qualcomm: HTC One launches with benchmark-busting Snapdragon 600 Processor
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

As an owner of a dead sexy BLACK One V, that has been "naked " in my pocket since purchase in August with nary a scratch......I will be buying the black "One "

My One V always turns heads, isheep especially love drooling over it.
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

No menu button ?

Do you know if it is possible to desactive the 3 dot menu bar (that takes some place on the screen) and assign the menu on a button ?

How to ?

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One X avec Tapatalk