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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i agree icons wouldnt change but transitions have lots of bugs and hitches so im sure they will be tweaked still, it looks rough around the edges in many areas

but like i said i love it eitherway and can't wait for the iPad version about bloody time

hey so back to topic, even the iPhone guys in the office are saying its now more like HTC ;)

the funny bit that HTC in Sense 5 gave up on all those exaggerated graphics, animations, and transitions, but HTC never was able to do this much graphics/animation without severe inconsistancies and here apple is doing it right, lets call it "Sense 5 well done"

however the idea of this much animations/Transitions is clearly inspired by Windows Phone

any both WP and iOS7 can make Sense 5 feel boring, our UI is now too minimal compared to these OSes :laugh:
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Especially multitasking :thumbdown:
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
The multitasking looks most like windows phone. Its identical bar the icons at the bottom.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
My first phone was a wp7, here are my thoughts when I moved to the HOX. The sense 4 recent apps is copied from wp7, but the sense 4 one can swipe away tasks. It looks just identical. The capacitive buttons layout from ics is copied from wp7. It's exact same so I got used to the HOX in no time while many were whining about the new buttons layout.
[One (M7) General] Ali_ultra99:
Isn't the web os ( HP touchpad ) is where this multitasking technique ( recent apps ) all began , so wp isn't isn't the original creator , I don't mind companies copying from each other , but they have at least to copy and put there on style .

Swipe from the button of the screen to exit app

HP touchpad first did it and the Bb 10 copied them , but made them in a magazine stand order , and and X to exit

The recent app like a cover flow

HP touchpad did first then microsoft with wp then htc with sense sense 4 , but everyone made it look different to separate them from the other .

HTC copied bb 10 with there magazine cover stand order in sense 5 , but keeper the swipe the close , rather than X to close

IOS 7 , made me a little excited for ios , and really want to try it out , I thought of buying and iPod touch 5g , to get the best of the two world HTC one x and nearly the HTC one for android and get the stability and gaming for android.

If I said anything wrong please correct me.

But keeped
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
You're right. It's better to count in Android ICS too.

And the keyword for this discussion was Matias Duarte, the guy owned credits for this it.. It's great to have him at Google & Android.
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
No hdr mics reduced boom sound what else is next come on htc
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
HDR Mics reduced boom sound ? This doesn't make any sense :confused: what do you mean lol ?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
For sure: no hdr mics, reduced boomsound...
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
I don't really understand

My Phone really reached 96Db for BoomSound

Man this Phone is gorgeous
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Why do we have confirmation that the new mics are bad?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Apple iOS 7 improves camera and photo experience, but the HTC One still offers more
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
Lol correct forgot the comma! The one I tried at the store was not loud at all but I learnt that HTC reduced max volume in newer firmware such a same...Optimus g sounded a lot louder.

Well nothing custom roms can't solve :)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Mics has NOTHING to do with the SPEAKERS ... , and the max volume got reduced by HTC in the software , if the phone that you tested is 1.29 firmware version it wont be as loud as the 1.27 , my one is at least 20% louder then the one in stores cuz i've restored old libs from 1.27. The only thing that the NEW HDR MICS ( assuming they suck ) can do is be worse for video recording / talking , nothing else. Which isn't that important anyway imo. Aside from that the NEW mics could be better then the OLD ONES anyway , we don't have the confirmation that new mics suck ..
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
Well I haven't found any info about the new mics used...

Mic in hox is terrible frankly it's an embarrassment for such an expensive device so i am a bit sceptical
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
I love the sound quality on the HTC one when speaking to someone on the phone. Possibly the best mic and sound I've heard in any phone. The clarity is superb!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC said repeatidly they will find better HDR mics to replace them

and its not like they did this, nokia forced them into this and the judge found HTC the victim

so really i dont get why anyone should complain until we see a factual thread discussing the quality of the new mics

and why do you compare with the One X, the current HDR mics are the reference and not the One X

HTC fans have a habit of being pessimistic or what? :)

if you ask me i think they will comparable but less "amazing"
[One (M7) General] beno619:
From what i have read IOS 7 has a lot of inconsistencies, like have game center looks nothing like any of the other stock apps ??
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.androidauthority.com/samsungs-26-screens-226746/
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
This is going to make Samsung realize...

realize the fact that they left the 9 inch market without devices :p
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
I certainly hope so...All i want to do is be able to go to a concert and record a decent video with nice sound...like my gf's iphone 4s :crying:
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I have a big list :P

1) Can you check whether HTC has used the classic battey info screen or their implementation like in Jb on One X

2)Check the kernel version

3) Grab some screenshots of Dialer , People and Messaging plus other HTC apps' UI and tell us about some new features.

4)Also some screens of developer options in menu and the widget selector screen.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Hype! :p

HTC Nexus One launched into space on CubeSat, becomes first PhoneSat in orbit (video)

[YOUTUBE]D3-iPso6Zy4[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Okay so I had it in my hands, it feels great and slim.

Everything smooth and htc zoe and all other software features are awesome :)

Power button is nice to reach and it has a premium feeling when you touch the phone.

Well, to the bad part, I wanted to run a GLBenchmark but man that customer support guy was so annoying and never left me alone. I didn't run it sry.

Camera : yes it has noticeable less details than the htc one but the low light pictures are great as well as hdr.

I am really sry that I didn't run the gl benchmark.

---------- Post added at 01:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:44 PM ----------

I didn't read your post before I went in. Sry.

But to point three.

Everything is flat now but it looks way better and elegant. Like the tabs in the contacts app are not at the bottom anymore but on the top and not anymore so big, just simple text.

Browser is really nicely designed as well but smoother than on the one x and overall faster.

---------- Post added at 01:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 PM ----------

Sometimes I wished I was working at o2 or similar. That guy had a htc one already which he gave me to see how it feels in your hand :) it doesn't feel like it was bigger than our one x..
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Did you try the silver or black one?

How did you feel the materials? Do they look durable?
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
silver. the only one they had.

I will go for silver this time (one x-grey)

and as I said they feel rock solid and not scratchable, but it has a bit less grip than the htc one x ( maybe placebo) :D

---------- Post added at 02:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:24 PM ----------

+@ hamdir:

there is an offer from o2 .

i would get the htc one for 661 € (sadly branded) with some beats headphones (worth 99 €) --> ~570 €.

You think thats a good deal ? bit worried about the branding (hboot update etc)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
your paying full price for branded?

go for unlocked my friend
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Okay found an offer for 599 euro unbranded.

Will wait a bit longer then. I will sell my one x probably around 23.3. So I have some time.

Still hoping for better price drops.
[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
HEhe is there a shop that delivers phones from Germany to Netherlands :p..

'cause 599 euro is cheaper then 660 in Holland
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Days are going so slowly these days:eek:
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I guess not :) that offers is from Saturn.
[One (M7) General] laffer98:
It looks to be a great phone for HTC!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
branded are hell for development and after sale

so whatever you do, stick to unbranded
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
I will do. The JB updates and CIDs showed me how annoying they can be
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
too bad you couldn't bench it, the mystery continues :)

im glad you said the size isn't so different from our One X but yea i can imagine being slippery
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
yeah that sucks .

the htc one had a special holder and place btw. HTC Zoe and boom sound were put in focus by some ads.

it is not slippery but it has less grip than the one x. I will probably use a case anyway
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i have one more questions how did you find the glass edges are they protected by metal (left and right)

and how do the metal mix with plastic feel on the sides?

no comment on the screen? :)
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

They are not really protected but the transition seemed to be fluently.

I was quite excited when I held it in my hand so I might overseen some things :)

It feels good, the metal + plastic mix doesn't feel cheap or whatever.

Screen is another step forward from the one x. There is no real difference between the 720 p one x screen and the 1080 p screen on the htc one but viewing angles are awesome, colours are well balanced and no flickering like some one x have.

Note : the htc one I used had a system update available btw. Not sure which one.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
without a metal strip protecting the glass like HTC usually do im worried on hit on the edge and the glass will shatter

still you might have missed that part ;)
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yeah. I was quite excited to hold that phone in my hands and probably missed some points. Wish I got the htc one from htc already. Eagerly waiting to make a review about it.

If I buy it before the press device is here, then... Did htc a quite bad job on that imo, but I am still optimistic though.
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
Well, I'll comment on the screen, then: it is a thing of beauty.

Demo-ing an HTC One yesterday evening I managed to get it talking to the Phones 4U wifi (when no one was looking) and hence the 'Net. Went onto YouTube and watched the trailer for Season 3 of "Game of Thrones" in high definition - absolutely stunning.

I was initially surprised because it didn't seem very bright. Checked the screen brightness setting and it was on maximum. Frowned. Then checked the battery-saving settings and found one in there which limits screen brightness. Turned it off and very nearly blinded myself. :cool: It's plenty bright.

Black level isn't what you'd get from OLED, of course, but it's not bad, and the colour balance is so much more natural. If you're used to the massively oversaturated colours on OLED screens, you'll absolutely hate it. :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
really mate what are you talking about? the One HDR mics destroys anything else in the market including the beloved iLove devices, the replacement can not be much worse!

why didnt you buy one earlier?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Don't feed the troll, if he believes iPhone can record better sound despite the fact that one has atm the best sound recording then he should get an iPhone and enjoy it :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] ste_vlad:
Nope, just missing from the slide :), I have the gtab 8.9
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Why is Samsung so Dumb releasing 26 devices..when they don't release libs for Open Source

I became a real hater for Sammy
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ARHD: Do we really need S-OFF?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
He didn't include the part about being able to LOCK your device again for warranty purposes, but I guess that's a grey area anyway :P
[One (M7) General] Saluco:
Very nice & good article from Mike

Send from my DHD using Monocytes, Macrophages and Natural Killer cells :D
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
I have a hox and I m pretty happy with it only after the lovely support from xda otherwise I would have thrown it out the window.

I never owned any other smartphone apart from htc and I badly want them to succeed!

My problem is that the one is expensive here...

And for the record I hate Apple not just the iPhone...
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Why is toyota so dumb making so many cars, without making spare parts for them.

Well so that everyone's needs and budget can be met

HMMM..... MMM AM BACK. :p
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yes he did, he states about relocking the device.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Yes but I think the entire world made it pretty clear that the HTC One is not the One X

Very minor silly issues to fix with unlock anyway, nothing like the predecessor
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Is this still considered news?

http://htcsource.com/2013/06/htc-on...rofile/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[One (M7) General] pcigre:
So many rumors, but we just had one more week without official 4.2.2. It's kind a disappointing I must say...
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Fantastic link and article, you should have a look,, thanks Hamdir and Mike.

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
I agree but...I actually think I might wait and see if I can get my hands on a Google htc one victory...great software with excellent hardware
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Regarding Mike's article I can see where he is coming from but I don't completely agree with him. S-off would still be needed due to the fact that if just about anything related to hardware goes wrong its almost always automatically blamed on having root access. In my situation I don't oc/uv I try to keep all hardware at the level stated but of something had gone wrong with my inspire it would have been blamed on rooting. Simply put the honest consumers such as myself just like to have access to different themes and such and be able to underclock when gaming. Why should we be punished for that when gaming needs fixing by underclock of CPU to keep temps down? If anything we are protecting the hardware more so than they do.

I do agree about the whole ota thing that he was getting at though

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
All I have to say my unlocked hox was sent to repair center 3 times for hardware faults and they fixed it all the times under warranty!
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Yes, as Mike said HTC always repair the device under warranty even if they are unlocked (some very rare exceptions..), BUT if you brick your device while doing a mistake in s off mode then you are dead... So I won't go s off except if I really do neeto

;)

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
+1 for me, my hox was serviced 2 time and replaced all major components during the process including the motherboard!
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Well, in my case I go by Murphy's law when it comes to warranties. What can go wrong will go wrong. If people do not understand what or why they are doing something and what to avoid doing to ensure their phone doesn't get bricked then it is obviously not for them. If they do not read the op of an s-off thread to learn that they do take some risk and actually take the time to educate themselves then they get what comes with doing something without knowledge. While I do not wish that on anyone, it is only they that can be held accountable. Might seem like a harsh stance but when I for my first android HTC I spent literally 1-2 weeks reading threads on s-off, what not to do, so on so forth. With knowledge comes caution and to each his/her own, but for me and my house its s-off or bust.

/End rant

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] bouss:
4 times here for my desire. Took some time for them to figure what was wrong. 1 of them was totally my fault. Still got it repaired. 5 different imeis.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Well I have a Toyota for 5 years

And you Toyota Cars as a Budget Car in India...you gotta be kidding me :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/345761593876938753
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Joe Hindy: HTC One – One Month in the Life of an HTC One Owner
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Speaking of battery life, Snapdragon Battery Guru finally activated for me on stock 1.29 and my battery endurance is already better in standby :good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Football: HTC One Dual Sim Review Part 1
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One Dual Sim Review Part 2: Hardware
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
By the way guys I had the chance to checkout the sharp screen and indeed it does have a different touch layer visible under reflections, the JDI screen touch sensor are simply horizontal strips that are very hard to detect unless the screen is off, however the sharp screen has the best screen calibration
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/d...an-next-gen-console-fulfill-the-1080p60-dream

1080p 60fps with full effects is still a console dream, tbh consoles are made to be for fans who want good gaming at a good price. Consoles aren't about playing games with full effects it's about the experience something pc gaming doesn't offer . Pc games look better than ps4 but the services that the ps4 xb1 has pc doesn't. If your what's described as a hardcore gamer who just wants the best then pc is obviously for but for me I like consoles because of their price and cos I don't believe theirs a massive difference between ps4 and pc games to spend £600 which is nearly double the price of the ps4. What's really funny about pc gamers they spend more than 1k on their system and the monitor is only 30" and the speakers are full of sh#t not to say you have to buy a gaming chair for long session to avoid aches.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Mate mate we have seen nothing from the ps4 and Xbox one, can you even compare the first ps3 release game with the Last of us?? As devs learn how to make the most out of the systems they will get better and better

Crysis 3 on current consoles sucks, because its made by a PC game dev but the last of us made exclusively for the ps3 after years of learning, currently looks better than many next gen stuff!!

The new consoles have the advantage of a large unified memory pool with bandwidth beyond PC architecture (especially the ps4) and most importantly a closed echo system

We have seen nothing yet ;)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Just compared HoX and M7 screens ... guess what HoX has widger screen ! NUUUU !!! Oh well >.>

heres the video by some guy , you can see it also in here , also on this video whites are better on the One X , while in my case my One has better whites , GAH i hate when HTC uses more then 1 pannels for the screen , especially when the reviewers get the most sh1tty screen , it just SUX.

[YOUTUBE]kliZsIX_jzI[/YOUTUBE]

Anyway don't mind me :P
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I know we haven't seen anything the ps4 is capable of, Bf4 is not even taking full advantage of ps4 and it looks awesome. I know that consoles are capable of much more than pc even if they were using the same gpu for the simple reason devs milking every ounce out of console were as pc gamers have to simple update their hardware every two years. The only thing I said was pcs are made for hardcore gamers because they have more effects. I imagine pcs vs consoles as tegra vs snapdragon, tegra are like consoles which don't update hardware as often unlike snapdragon but are much better optimised just look at tegra zone, whereas snapdragon instead of milking the capabilties of one Soc they release two flagship socs a year (snpdragon 600/800) just like pc gpu's are updating their models every year instead of milking the capabilties of the current gpu's.

Consoles are more future proof than gaming pc's not because of their power but because they optimise, optmise till their to old for the latest games, ps3 is 7 years old no gaming pc which is 7 years old that has the power of a ps3 can even play what you describe as not that optimsed for ps3 which is crysis 3. Even though crysis 3 isn't optimised like the last of us for the ps3 it is still playable. The fact that the ps4 has a hughe memory bandwidth it will be even more future proof than the ps3. One of the execs of Sony said ps4 will last longer than the 7 year old ps3 due to the simple fact that it has a huge memory and it is also x84 architecture so porting and optmisation has become easier for devs.
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
I don't think it can last as long as the PS3 and Xbox 360 did because of the mediocre CPU and GPU they're using now. The PS3 was announced with at the time a GPU equivalent to the most powerful one available on the pc (7800gtx I think), the cpu was equally powerful. Now they've used a pretty mediocre mid tier card and a low voltage cpu which is used in laptops afaik.

I'll still get the PS4 most likely, but it is kind of dissapointing imo
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
The gtx titan is only 2 1/2 times powerful than the ps4 they couldn't have used such a powerful gpu for a simple reason its way to expensive. The ps4 specs match the gtx 670 I think, which isn't bad and the cpu isn't as important as the gpu on the console and you've got the cloud performing some computational stuff like on the xb1. I just saw the first mgs 5 trailer and it looks brilliant you can't find a gaming computer that is as powerful as the ps4 which costs £350 it's a awesome deal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYAH6nqDC-Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
What??? Wasn't it equal to something between a 7850 and 7870? That's nowhere near a gtx670, more like a 650ti

Anyway no doubt it will look good, but I just don't see it lasting very long with these specs (visually)
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I just made a guess on 670 after looking at the specs I don't know much about pc gpu's and I'm sure they'll figure a way out to prolong the life of the ps4.
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Technically the MSM8960T..... Interesting selection by Moto there.... But if having 1 chip for everything is the goal its likely the best option given the 600 requires another chip for radio's...
[One (M7) General] atrako1973:
hi guys ,anyone with stock recovery img for htc one software 1.28.771.6

much apreciate any help or zip

thanks
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
Don't get me wrong but I think that the one (and also lumia) microphones are awful, the sound feels to much compressed and unnatural, a mic that I really like is the sgs4 one. The HAAC IMHO are overrated.

Anyway, installed ios7, I really like the new graduated color style in the ui, and I have to say that it is inspired more by windows phone then android. the software is very bugged ATM(still in beta), the new animation are pretty good looking(when you unlock the device it reminds me of wp7) smoothness also decreased(specially in the tasks window), now there is a real multitasking. But I found a big problem, there is still the old keyboard on the 3rd party apps.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

The best part

Football was updating maximus for One X

Now its 13.0.0 with latest base 3.20.401.3