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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
@Goku its my understanding that s600 maxes out at 1900mhz but I'm sure with UV and aggressive kernel tweaks it can go a bit further

But whatever you can do the s4 s600 you can do for the one as well, they are the same exact chipset and I feel HTC went with 1700mhz for battery and thermal reasons only

Shan was 487GPU confirmed on the s4? (I don't dare going to their threads)
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
that is what i am saying my friend..no matter what they do on the S4 other phones can do the same...and like i said to you so many times....for me the One is just something else..work of art mate..:)(my N4 is sexier:p)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Hold it there champ Brian pretty much confirmed Krait 300 is still a big update when it comes to CPU ;) so even if u run ur s4pro as same speeds it will not match the micro architecture changes and CPU speed :victory:
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
not denying it mate....anything now compare to the nexus will be faster...but anyways i would of loved to read your review regarding faux kernels on the N4....you would of seriously loved them
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no the n4 is really tempting considering it using all this power for 720p

and insane pricing of the one in here makes the super cheap n4 even more appealing

main deal breaker for me is the camera though, it truly sucks :) that and I know I should be better, but I really dislike aosp I still need some features inbox

one thing though unlike many, I do commit myself for one device a year, so I'm really not ok with constantly changing phones, makes me feel bad about myself :)
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
well my next upgrade i will ask to only do a yearly contract as being stuck in a two year contract now is not really worth the while
[One (M7) General] avara:
Just received my new HTC One and I must say it's an awesome phone. Beautiful, blazingly fast, great sound! However I cannot find the htc email widget in the widget drawer. Is it completely gone? If there was one useful widget for me, it was this one. I love the look and feel of the new sense 5 email client but without the widget, it's a bit of a pain. Any thoughts?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Well all i have to say is i envy your nexus ( hardware points ) and the AOSP has grown to my heart very deeply , i'm more on AOSP now then sense and the only thing what i miss from sense is Zeros pureXaudio and camera QQ. Anyway i'm considering to get me N4 as well since it's so cheap , i can get it new here for 320E , should be 280 used one, funny fact in here is that used hox costs 300/340E :p i could sell hox and earn 20E lol :P Tho my HoX is never gonna be sold it's too damn good.

Well i'm suspecting it's @ 487 , we all saw sammy goes for 1.9 only so it beats HTC One at benches , so i rather believe they went for higher GPU Clocks as well.
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
@shan

despite the explosive colours, i find that the s4 screen is acceptable because it includes pre calibrated colours and warmth, by changing the calibration to movie or dynamic, the blue tint is actually reduced alot.

amoleds are definitely improving through calibration. but of course, nothing beats the accuracy of ips screens.

oh and a question for u all, do u prefer a 20fps video but twice as bright at night, or a 30fps locked video but less bright. please do give constructive reviews, i'd love to carry out a survey
[One (M7) General] broncogr:
Back on topic please.
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
I think 24fps is cinematic
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
huh? cinematic how? :cyclops:
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
He means it's the standard for most movies you see in the theater
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I don't know if we can bring back objectivity to these forums but here goes

first an admission, yes i bash samsung and im pissed for all their huge profit margins at the expense of good taste (and in contrast i love the korean kia for not being as stubborn and facing design/material heads on)

but my last encounter with the guys at the s4 forums, made me realize few things, its why you don't see me anxious to bring up the s4 anymore (except the SOC discussion)

these devices are not so similar as we think and its really funny to argue, its all boiling down to preferences

they are intentionally different, this is why HTC calls it "everything your phone isnt"

this is why they went with 4.7 instead of 5.0inch, IPS instead of Amoled, controversial large pixel instead of 13MP, metal unibody instead of versatile plastic, so that it will not be in full lock with the main competitor, so it's easier for you to choose which one you want and forgive any failing area

unlike last year which was 4.7 vs 4.8, plastic vs plastic, 8MP vs 8MP, both devices were more similar and choice was not as easy, and so people ran to the s3 at the sight of initial issues and weak battery life of the One X

most phone makers are going with internal battery and no SD slot, but for those who really want it, at least they still have a flagship providing this ability

but we are no longer competing on specs alone but rather the choice now boils down to a completely different experience

do you see what they did there? :)
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
Awesome post hamdir bro..

Not sure if that's what htc had in mind.. But quite a clever thought :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
think about it

what's HTC most well known for since the HTC Diamond? it's design and material

so basically last year they shot themselves in the foot by going with two competing flagships, one gets the specs and the other gets the design/material (One X vs One s)

im not saying anything against the One X soft touch ploycarbonate unibody which i love, sometimes better than metal (its the best of both worlds), but subtle details are not loud enough to be heard, believe me if the One X and S were combined, we wouldn't be having this discussion at all
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Even the S4 Pro had 1890 MHz in its frequency table, so with Snapdragon 600 they've managed to benefit from a mature 28nm process and bump up the clockspeed to 1.9 GHz. As the pipeline hasn't changed from S4 to Krait 300, and we're dealing with the same 28nm process node, I think 1.9 GHz will be near the limit. I believe most HTC One should be overclockable to 1.9 GHz, but logic dictates that the majority of the best binned Snapdragon 600 will be used in the S4, as Qualcomm have to guarantee all those chips hit 1.9 GHz.

I don't believe for a second that the S4's GPU is clocked at 487 MHz, at most it's 450 and most likely 400 MHz, just like the One. We know that the Adreno 320 in the N4 can be boosted to 487 MHz, I reckon the GPU in the One will beat that, 500 MHz is a real possibility for the best binned examples.
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
Any idea what's the voltage difference between 1,7 GHz and 1,9 GHz in SGS4? I'm pretty sure One would go +200 MHz without boosting voltage.
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
100% agreed, better is objective.

The one fits more for the multimedia and for people who cares about design aspect thanks to its better screen, overall better camera, ois, better stereo speakers and the metal unibody while the sgs4 is made for the people who value durability(thanks to the plastic and gorilla glass 3) and more power users features like the(probably) the better binned soc(to keep with the higher frequency) lpddr3 ram,bigger and removable battery(plus mhl2.0) and sd card, speaking of software the one has a more polished, unique and modern ui, while the sgs4 will have a more functions(I personally like very much the multiwindow and the airview) and closer ui to stock. As you can see neither of these devices are better nor worse it all comes to what the person want.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Well I know for a fact I won't be using 1.9 in daily use , max that ill go would be 1000 ghz

and gaming 1.3 tops 1.5. What I want to see is damn gpus get better not only cpus, I'm not saying gpus are bad but if everyone focus on gpus as nvidia we would have much better gpus.

Well said :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] RoachPapa:
any new news to new driver for the s600?
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
I think we should have a wallpaper thread for the HTC One. Or at least full HD phones? Most of the walls in the Wallpaper threads are all different sizes and never for Full HD displays.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
When you said UI closer to stock, did you mean touchwiz? Dont mean to start anything but I thought sense 5 was closer to stock now :o
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
That's what themes and apps section is for, make a thread there and say you only want FHD or better posted.

M.
[One (M7) General] puremind:
LOL, they closed my thread because I was trolling Samsung trolls :)

Still was funny to see how many took it seriously. Like anyone would try to put their micro SIM card into the USB slot. :D

But I don't blame them...I am French, a German guy would never post funny stuff like this, so it is easy to get fooled by my location.
[One (M7) General] xXxG0dzRAgexXx:
I'm wondering if it would be better to make on in the HTC One themes and apps forum or in the Android Themes forum. I have a feeling it would be moved but I also don't want it to get buried in the millions of other threads active there. I have a collection of 43 wallpapers at 1080x1920 just for Full HD devices. Some made by me and most found through Wallbase and I just rotated and resized them.

Also there already is a wallpaper thread over in the Android theme forum but they all are 720p or lower and isn't too active.
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
Yes, but watch the sense 5 app drawer it's completely different from the stock one while the touch wiz in a way resemble it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i agree, touchwiz is now further away from stock and bloated than the sense 5, cyanogen said something similar (GB like)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it was spot on, exactly the way they keep opening new threads

claiming they bought the One, they like something but found something horrible so they returned it, never HTC and then subtly hints at how much better the s4 as an alternative

classic!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I dont agree at all mate (except the part where you were right its not T4 in the M7)

we are currently at a GPU deficiency especially with the 1080p/ppi race

but the time we arrive at T5, A15 will become a lot more viable as its shrunk even further, meanwhile a kepler based GPU will be killer from nvidia, if you have no idea how powerful kepler is even when it's cropped just check the razor edge results in GL bench 2.7

a quad a15 is being used today at 28nm in a smartphone, although we dont approve of it but it means at a further shrink it will make much more sense

as for s800 its still running higher than 2ghz clocks, i know a better process but its still 28nm its not that going to be incredibly efficient as you might think
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Just waiting for my local carriers to start bringing in this phone. Can't wait! If there's a good price for it, I'm giving my HoX to my gf and getting the ONE!
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
You can easily spot a samsung troll by the title he uses with catastrophic,end of the world,apocalyptic problems(plural) about the One,then when you read the inside of the topic it's a silly thing like ''can't use 99.9% of the options in a specific game'' LOL
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I seem to remember there being a post in this thread (somewhere) about how the GPU is more powerful in the One than previously expected, how is the One for gaming on?

My One gets delivered today! I'll be leaving my HOX behind, kinda sad but excited!

@ Hamdir, Can we get THD effects to run on the One Hamdir?
[One (M7) General] i9100g user:
Htc one looks awesome in low light ,all 3 flagship's camera compared.

http://android.pandaapp.com/news/04...ne_vs_galaxy_s_vs_xperia_z.shtml#.UWKY-nS3TqB

sent from an Galaxy s3 GT I9300

Running perseus kernel 33.1 , XELLA 4.1.2 leaked build

:D xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1784401

The other side of XDA :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
Didn't see the sgs4 go past iso1000. With the smaller aperture lens this makes for pretty bad night photos in terms of overall exposure. You could see this simply - they were dark.

Probably software fixable but you'd need to go to roughly iso3200 to match the raw light gathering ability of the one, and that's a very tall order out of any mobile sensor.

One went to almost 2000, with lens being almost a stop faster too... Makes a big difference simply being able to suck up enough light for a proper exposure. I also noticed they didn't use the night mode on the one which will push a longer exposure and lower iso.

M.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here are my posts on the topic

HTC One, Adreno 320 GPU Shines in new 3DMark tests, beating Exynos Octa

HTC One, Adreno 320 GPU Shines in the new GL Benchmark 2.7 results

gameplay videos analysis

gameplay videos
[One (M7) General] patato2:
Low light performance is overwhelming! but I don't think XZ is that bad. I've seen what XZ can do.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thx bro :good:

this is how to do a comparison ok GSMarena? :)
[One (M7) General] hassan89:
Profits sink even more for htc !

http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/8/4195948/htc-one-delay-results-in-revenue-miss-lowest-profit-on-record
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ooooo nooooooooo throw away your HTC Ones everybody :laugh:

this is now a double post, because it was posted few times already, the One is not in people hands and we are in transition phase so really what did you expect?
[One (M7) General] puremind:
Here is an interesting post that also looks at the relative strengths of the GPU's. This was in reaction to the table I posted (which summarized the 3DMark results in a clearer way).

Source: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=40051842&postcount=190
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
just awesome goes to show how advanced Adreno 320 really is

it might be not as brute in some area but it's definitely a better GPU

besides i am not suprised at all, a simply logic concluded it was to be heavily OCed at 533mhz especially being a 3 actual cores architecture along the octa

the GPU is now almost confirmed to be running at under those clocks with such scores

finally and most important, i dont need fan boys or any of this, i have my iPad4 with 2k resolution and 4 physical more advanced SGX554 GPUs + 128 bit memory bandwidth

resutl? it's having trouble running its own iOS designed games at 2k

MC4 = lagfest

A7 = polarity between very smooth and very laggy in transparency heavy scenes

Nova 3 = Smooth / lag in heavy sections

RR3 = stutter all around

NFSMW = still no retina support

so really i dont understand why people are so hyped up about the now aging SGX5xx architecture, guess all the iOS ports and limited vertex power of previous Mali(s) gave them an inferiority complex

puremind can you please copy your post to the related thread
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Fsck yes!

My One came and it's beautiful!

Gotta get some sweet a$$ games onto this thing pronto!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
awaiting your feedback :)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Initial feedback

Hamdir you are going to go nuts over this thing, I swear to god it's beautiful.

The speakers, oh my god the speakers, they are literally astonishing! I've never heard clarity like this from a phone, they give my speaker set up for my home TV a run for their money.

It's fast, I don't mean like HOX fast, I mean really, really fast. I didn't think it'd be noticeable as I'm coming up from a Quad-core, 1GB RAM anyway but I swear that I'm 'feeling' that it's faster not just 'thinking' it, maybe it's the honeymoon period, I'll report back later on with a more definitive response to it's speed.

UI is nice, simple but not understated, nothing like Sense 3.5 ;)

If there was one word for it, that word would be... 'Tidy'.

There are a few niggly things that I don't like about it, for instance, when you're in the app tray you long press on an app, Google Chrome for instance, you have to drag the icon all the way up to the top of the screen to the 'shortcut' notification, then you'll be taken to the homescreen and can add the app icon, it also removes it from the app tray, why I do not know, it's weird... I'd sometimes have an app icon on screen '7' on my HOX, I'd be on screen '2/3', so instead of scrolling across I'd just got through the app tray, no such luxury here! Also if you try to take an app from the '4-bar' at the bottom (don't know the official name for it) it won't remove it from that bar, it duplicates the icon, as I say, bit weird.

HTC have made some things better with the Sense experience and detracted from other aspects of it as mentioned above, it's a bit convoluted.

Haven't tested any games yet, will do so tonight and report back.

Took a few tester shots at home, I'm going out tonight to my martial arts class, I'll take a bunch of pics tonight and post them up tomorrow for analysis.

*Edit*

My dropbox just synced like a 100 photos into Camera Uploads... Thanks Zoe...
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
My One has made an unexpected detour on its way to me. Sent from Clove (UK) to the US, and now it's in... Jamaica!

Which apparently is in New York, not Africa (Edit: I didn't listen in geography class, and even then it was a while ago; I meant in the Caribbean sea).

A friend would be picking it out and bring it over to me this weekend.
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
Ummm...
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
A lot of Jamaicans are of African descent... but what Trekest said confused me too lol... :eek:
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Also be sure to post your review in the stickied review thread and any gaming review in the gaming thread.

It's always good to get opinions in different threads so more people will have access to your review :)

@hamdir - When are you getting your One?

Sent via my HTC One using XDA Premium
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
I meant the specific Jamaica my One is at right now is not in Africa (Edit: Caribbean! not Africa!), it's in New York.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaica,_Queens

Regarding changing the docked apps: You need to open the apps menu first, then drag the apps from and to it.

Edit: Learn geography dammit! :rolleyes: Jamaica is an island, not in Africa. I'm a moron, don't mind me.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
1200$ in black market so far due to limited numbers

the answer is not yet there are no stocks so far

depressing
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
That's a crazy price. It would work out cheaper to order it from Europe and have it shipped over :eek:

Sent via my HTC One using XDA Premium
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
if tis shipped by someone i know who labels it as gift maybe

but if its shipped with the pricing on it, the customs will cross check the price with the market and i might get a big fat tax
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
I could buy one from HTC for you ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
taken to pm :)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Lucky you :thumbup:
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Customs + VAT = 20% over the price of the phone + delivery
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yup and jonas will have to buy it from Germany so in euros :)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Installation test

I'm not sure if this has been done yet...

I'm going to uninstall MC4 from my HOX and then reinstall it at the same time as I install it on my One...

Lets see what finishes first!

I was already installing MC4 on my One and it felt like it was taking FOREVER!

Made me wonder about it's installation ability...

I shall return with results!
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Patience my friend, on the 19th of this month HTC will unleash huge amounts of One(s),price will drop like a Homer Simpsons from a window :eek:
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
Source? :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no he meant in our country haha
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
I feared it was so :crying:
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I think it's better to wait a few more days and save some money, and you will get a better batch
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
If I go to the store to buy a unit, how can I check which batch it is from? Is it posted on the box or do I have to check the system info?

Skickat från min HTC Desire via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Its on the box.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
1200$ -> 600$ this is how it will be in only a month,usually it's 700$ -> 550$ but this year factories bug and shortages made it 1200$ starting price

Don't forget this is black market price so they can throw any price they want
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
It's on both the box and in phone identity under settings

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Do you still get warranty if you buy it in black market?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i think your too hopeful

it might take a little longer than that

@steve1996 no warranty unelss we buy from the semi official dealers, who already prices it higher than the rest lol

dont try to understand it guys, because you just cant, its a little wacko around here

meanwhile this time last year i bought my One X before it arrived to most countries for a better price :rolleyes:

crazy...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
BGR AT&T HTC One Review: The Smartphone That Change Everything

Slashgear: AT&T HTC One Review

Engadget: HTC One for AT&T and Sprint: what's different?

HTC One pictured in red
[One (M7) General] puremind:
There are workarounds:

To add an app to the home screens: pinch the home screen. It will show you an overview of apps and widget and you can then drag the app or widget to the home screen of your choice without having to scroll through home screens! On other devices or stock Android you usually have to scroll through home screens, so Sense 5 seems it has the quickest route.

To find your app on screen 7: again pinch the home screen, and select the home screen 7 from there
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
"The smartphone that changes everything" sounds like an Apple slogan LOL
[One (M7) General] anit77:
Will Apple Scare Samsung Out of the Smartphone Business?

Don't know what the Sammy fanboys will do if this happens. Would surely be good news for HTC though.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
A CEO that travels... What a leisure job
[One (M7) General] jesr:
After Samsung Taiwan huge controversy it's good to see HTC taking the ONE directly to the public for people judge for themselves.

HTC One will be in your face for three months, as the company plans Showrooms in major US malls
[One (M7) General] VeixES:
If somebody still has concerns over the 32/64GB capacity of the HTC ONE.

Then there is little solution, a Mini MicroSD Reader http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andyfei/mini-microsd-reader-for-android-smartphones-and-ta

64GB and bigger MicroSDXC card can be used with this.
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
I've wanted something like this for awhile, but I think a better version would be one designed specifically for the One:

The connector should be tiny

There would then be two bends, curving round to the back of the phone, which is where the body of the card reader would be located.

Therefore the footprint when looking at the device head-on would be almost zero.
[One (M7) General] anit77:
Even better would be a Bluetooth 4.0 card reader. While it would need it's own battery you could keep it in your pocket and only have something connected to the phone if you needed more power.
[One (M7) General] catachresistant:
Genius.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Buy the HTC One, and HTC goes bankrupt you instantly have a future smartphone classic on your hands....

But the HTC One and HTC posts good profits, means that next year there will be even better model to tempt you.

Either way, the One is a great phone. If you want a more nuanced explanation of the strategic impact of the One on Samsung....

[YOUTUBE]UW12BT9pYEw[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] puremind:
It already exists but uses WiFI instead.

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Haha, no reason to argue about SD Card anymore...This is tiny. With that and battery power casing/external battery, you are equipped.