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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this is list is not to be trusted, it misses the Sensation family and it states the updated for the officially abandoned Desire HD

One X is still receiving better care than the M7 itself, so i doubt anything would prefer the Evita over the Endeavour ;)

check the latest news from football about the One X, it's getting both Zoe and Blinkfeed

https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR

and they say HTC doesn't care ;)

also on topic:
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
According to the source, they expect the Desire HD to be the newly announced Desire 600 which I doubt is right.
[One (M7) General] wicked1683:
Hi mates, I have one question regarding HTC One (All stock), does the UI Stutter or lag a bit?

I'm a Galaxy S3 user and I can say that the UI stutter (Or other calls it Lag). I tried using Touchwiz Launcher(Samsung's Default) and Nova Launcher but both of them still shows stuttering in the UI.

And also I read that the Galaxy S4 also stutter even with the faster processor...

This leaves me the conclusion that maybe the "Samsung's Android Firmware is the culprit" in all of these.

I heard that the Nexus (with Stock Android from Google) is smooth. I'm just curious if the stuttering is also present on the HTC One with Sense launcher?

PS:

I don't care about benchmark, what's important to me is the smoothness or usability of the UI. So I'm making a decision now whether to dump Samsung because of their poor software development.

If HTC Flagship is smooth my next phone will be an HTC... If not I will try a Nexus, problem with nexus is it's small, I like big phones, I hope HTC would make a larger version of HTC One
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
man the HTC Hero is in the list, the fact this list mixes super old devices with brand new ones and neglect some of last year flagships, shows its complete BS
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Turbo my man, Adreno 320 in it's current form is a beast, all you have to do is go with a kernel which fixes throttling and holy cow!

im playing MC4 daily now, just mind blowing stuff in later lelves, smooth like butter

FF6 runs like a dream, fully 1080p, despite the liquid smooth fps there are some random stutters so i hope this usual android "stutter" problem will be fixed with the 4.3 fixes you describe

any game you see lagging on s600 is either due to poor optimizations or OEMs default aggressive throttling (I actually blame Qualcomm for this, im sure it's their recommendation)

thankfully easily fixed with custom kernels :good:

by the way there is a very nice uncharted clone released on iOS called "Unearthed" i hope it makes it to android
[One (M7) General] Ali_ultra99:
If you want uncharted on your phone

You should check shadow guardian

http://www.gameloft.com/android-games/shadow-guardian-hd/

It's an old game , and looks like it has been removed from play store , but I think that is what you are looking for
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
https://www.facebook.com/unearthedthegame/posts/472278056177203

It was supposed to come yesterday, according to this post.

Fingers crossed.
[One (M7) General] Ali_ultra99:
Htc one won MEMA ( Middle east music award ) special award for ( best music phone )

http://www.memawards.com/
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I think what he means is smoothness in apps like Facebook :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Yes, general scrolling / latency / memory switching (buttery+:laugh:) improvements via the Android rendering pipeline, not games which depend on GPU horsepower and efficient use of OpenGL for smoothness. The main focus seems to eliminate any remaining jank on Android / improve experience on lower-powered Android devices.

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The HTC Hero isn't getting 4.3 according to the list, anyway Q4 2013 seems about right for 4.3 on the One. More importantly, any news on the 4.2.2 update?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yeah I know, tho there's a good chance for t6 from HTC to have either 4up 13mp or perhaps 6/8up since it's a tablet.

Looks like you haven't read any reviews anyway HTC one has been crowned to be the fastest phone in the market atm and it's got the title of first lag free smartphone. From my personal experience this is the current state of the ui / system / overall smoothness from these few devices I tested and played for few days with them.

The speed overall in EVERYWHERE not only ui scrolling etc :

1. HTC One

2. Nexus 4

3. HTC One X ( jb)

4. Xperia Z

5. S4

6. Note 2

7. s3

Remember these are the devices which I tested deeply and this is what I think about their overall smoothness.

I must add HTC One is much much faster then other devices and the only stuter I found in one was when existing the app drawer, it's not really a lag its like 1 mili second stuter in the animation.

The best thing would be if you simply head to some shop and test, and if it's worth it anything fastest camera from these above are HTC One and One X cameras regarding shots but still One Camera Is much faster then One X for example when using hdr.
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
[MENTION=4914682]Shan89[/MENTION]

Mate, have you got your one? Waiting for your thread in this section. Thanks
[One (M7) General] gianton:
I have both the H1 and N4, H1 is the smoothest of the two by far. I tried the S4 a little and found it's UI not ad smooth as the H1.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes yes but the fact the hero is listed is very suspicious, the selection of devices in that list is very fishy

as for the 4.2.2 update for the M7 it's almost here according to football, the One X comes next
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4687184]wicked1683[/MENTION]

This is the first time since the HTC hero that they get general praise from the press for their custom interface

the design is made to look similar to style as the stock android and the entire thing is much lighter than previous sense verisons and hence it's smoothest HTC device yet

that being said there is no escape from the random jerks here and there like any other android device

Apex is incredibly smooth but still slight drops in the app drawer and if you place certain widgets, but the animation are locked 60fps its really impressive
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Not yet , should be getting it today , anyway yeah i'll be making same thread as on HoX regarding everything , i just need the device so i can test the damn thing >.> , Good thing is we wont need so much work on the One since it's pretty much perfect out of the box , still i'm sure i could extract extra 1hr + outta battery @ the screen time.
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Poor me have a One x +, it definitely will be after One X ..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
So GFX Benchmark latest 2.7.2 update (the new name for GL Bencmark)

T-Rex HD 2.7 offscreen, full speed (1.7ghz): 15fps

vs

T-Rex HD 2.7 offscreen, power saver (1.1ghz): 15fps

vs

T-Rex HD 2.7 offscreen, full speed (1.7ghz) + GPU 450mhz: 17fps

vs

T-Rex HD 2.7 offscreen, power saver (1.1ghz) + GPU 450mhz: 17fps

it's pretty clear the power saver underclock doesn't touch the GPU

This means for those on pure locked stock, the best way to fight throttling is to play your games with power saver enabled ;)

Gameloft games will mostly remain unaffected, it's only CPU reliant games like NFSMW that will loose fps in power saver mode

by the way Nvidia shield Tegra 4 scores 18fps, this with a dedicated heat fan and roomier space

the One is head to head with the big dogs, one look in the GFX results and you will see the s600 Adreno 320 is up there with the fastest, completely matching the iPad4 and in real world it has to deal with easier resolution

in all honesty when the S600 was announced, i had no idea what so ever that it will match and beat the iPad4, this remains the most pleasant surprise in the HTC One and made me completely indifferent to the Tegra 4, mean while the GPU on the octa is 25% slower

in real world gaming, compared to my iPad, it differs between games, in some games it clearly kills the iPad (like gameloft games) and in others (like RR3) the iPad wins
[One (M7) General] jianlinooi:
lol...that means adreno 330 surely kill tegra 4? and top android gpu of the year....
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I have the HOX and HOX+, and of course the one I'm using, but will give my HOX to my dad
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
I just got my device, yet to test the full capacity of the one. But it feels very premium in the hands, what a device! And I'm very happy, that we're in a situation unlike the HTC one x and S3 of last year's. Thanks to HTC
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the results are different in lighter workloads like Egypt HD

http://gfxbench.com/result.jsp?benc...true&arch-MIPS=true&arch-x86=true&base=device

we are scoring 37fps stock and 40fps at GPU450, Shield is scoring 10fps above that

but like i said what matters is real world gaming and so far in stock clocks our S600 is eating the toughest games at 1080p

this leaves only the thermal situation which sadly requires a custom kernel

but like i said those on complete stock, might have better luck avoiding throttling if they stick to powersaver mode since the GPU is unaffected in this mode, i don't really notice much difference in games
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Some very nice stuff from 4.2.2

Edit: trouble uploading the pictures... Sorry

Edit 2: first two pictures are very obvious, the third one is very nice. Long press home for menu, Swipe up home for Google now :D 2.16 software
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nothing in your post mate ;)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I'm trying lol

Edit: done ! :)
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Can't see the pic for the long press home for menu??
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
the pic is small and its written in chinese
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Ahh cool glad to know they are finally adding the option back in :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/340130835300769793
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One with stock Android coming June 26th for $599

The HTC One 'Google Edition' is official!
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Official!

HTC Blog: HTC One with Nexus User Experience>>
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Great news! I mean no use to me I like sense but glad its a thing so people wont go on about it now. Are the camera specs the same? ( I guess so)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Evaleaks: The HTC Phablet
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Damnit hamdir! You are far too quick at this :')
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
does this mean partitions can be accessed?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The device is provided and managed by Google :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ooops

https://twitter.com/shen_ye
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The hardware is the exact same as the HTC One, including IR port, but it's entirely up to Google to use those features
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Since it's the same hardware, ROM ports should blindly work for us :D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
guys dont forget to read about the T6, seems to be a mad monster :D

tons of details in the this article

http://theunlockr.com/2013/05/30/the-htc-phablet/
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Great day for HTC fans, positive news everywhere, I can't wait for people to try out stock android and figure out that HTC know better and Sense is the way to go :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it'a already making lots of arguments on Twitter

everyone is wondering what will happen to all these hardware APIs :)
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Seen as the hardware is the same the imagesense chip will be there? Just not activated?
[One (M7) General] pcigre:
Hm... sense is software product mate.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
more here

https://twitter.com/Nisher
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no imagesense for the camera is a chipset connected straight to the camera
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One with Nexus Experience Announced
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Now that it's officially announced I wonder if 4.2.2 will be released for the sense edition before June 26th or at the same time?

Also does anyone think they will be using a different CID for the GE phone?
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Here's Sundar Pichai holding ONE Google Edition at D11:

Interview here: http://allthingsd.com/20130530/live...ndar-pichai-at-d11/?mod=atd_homepage_carousel
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Doesnt look like we are ever getting the back as a menu button back. Apparently google did ask HTC to remove that option and the HTC One google edition will have the black bar.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
There where some screenshots posted with the 2.16 firmware which states (although in chinese) that it will have long press back for menu.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Ooh, MSM8974, that means s800 :D
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Did it? I thought that was for something else? I thought those devices with 3 buttons already had the app switcher button as menu.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Got the info from a few pages back, the guy who posted them didn't say it was the HTC One though.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2157153&page=643
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
It is for the m7... The m7_u Taiwan, the guy I got these from are not willing to leak any info to me, I have no idea where he got that firmware from. He said he's asking for room devs to cook a ROM for him using that firmware. It's long press home for menu, and swipe up home for Google now.
[One (M7) General] xman_here:
Now, I think, HTC One sales will see a real boost cos Google Edition HTC One has been announced. It's gonna be really interesting to see how well this device fight with GE S4. Price is better in case of One.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh you didn't know? :)
[One (M7) General] jesr:
HTC One Nexus Experience Clarifications: IR Blaster Disabled, No HTC Camera Features, And No Beats Audio Switch

HTC One Google Edition: The Sacrifices
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
interesting fact about the HTC One aosp edition.

source: htc elevate (public info)
[One (M7) General] pradeepvizz:
Talking about fingerprint reader/scanners in mobile device, apple has/applied a patent for something related to fingerprint & device. i wonder if other devices can follow that easily without paying apple.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
https://twitter.com/Hawk1902/status/340216206571237376 tweet about 4.2.2 we might see it next week :D
[One (M7) General] aliHTCDHD:
The patent only says that the finger print scanner is placed where the apple logo is placed ie at the middle back. Any other positioning their is no need for payment to apple because they didn't invent the finger print scanner nor are they the first to use it on a phone. My guess is it will be placed at the front bottom on HTC t6 any where on the rear side is stupid because every time you want to swipe your finger you'll have to turn the device round.
[One (M7) General] Dr.Engineer:
All that is great to hear. But at the moment taking into consideration the current battery specs, having a fingerprint reader is redundant. More the trigger enabled i/o devices more the battery drainage.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
http://rootzwiki.com/news/_/article...on-phones-fit-into-the-rooted-community-r1897

Just an excerpt on what I think are the main points of the article, and I fully agree. I never really looked forward to a non-Nexus "Google Phone" for the exact same reasons.

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Not sure where to put this so I'll just lump it here.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
HTC considering the possibility to let all us early adopters get AOSP however I am unsure if that would only include the developer edition.

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/05/3...-owners-to-remove-sense-ui-from-their-device/

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I hope it's not one of these times when it's 'always' around the corner!
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
If the AOSP Google for One has an option for Zoe then I will finally flash a CM based rom (they will surely port the One oasp camera app) after 2 years of pure Sense roms
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
There is much discussion and explanations about the AOSP version in Elevate

in a nutshell most hardware functions like boomsound and HDR recording will work on the device and the ultrapixel functions, what you dont get is software abilities like ZOE etc
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No ZOE, No live Gallery, No blinkfeed, No video highlights and not even Sense TV

this is pretty much comfirmed, its pure android with the awesome hardware of the HTC One
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
then what is the point of releasing a google edition of both s4 and one then?:confused: do not get me wrong hardware wise the build quality is amazing on the One...but if it does not come with some of those features the phone seems wasted to me:D
[One (M7) General] n3ocort3x:
u forgot to take ur pills in the morning goku? ?? (just kidding don't get me wrong)

i dont need such things but still have a working phone with awesome screen and build quality... awesome sound... and most important : everything will work..

thats the absolute right way from htc. the only things not working atm on aosp is incall bt., ir and wep on wifi

i have both atm... n4 and one. both phones are great. atm (beside those plastic bombers from samsung) the best choice. but screen and sound is simply way better then on nexus 4.

and tbh... i dont need wep... ir... yeah.. bt incall would be nice but its a ***** it seems. with release of nexus experience for one... this problem belongs to the past
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
They could just contribute code to AOSP like how Sony does.
[One (M7) General] n3ocort3x:
yeh correct.. sony does an really goodjob when it comes to that
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
At least they are willing to do it. HTC could do the same thing as well for their phones, and contribute to the community. The end result would be the same in that AOSP will be optimized and available for the phone. By releasing a Google Experience phone, people trust Google to push out releases. People trust Google enough, so I'd like these people to start trusting HTC more too :D

HTC should help out :D
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
This is what I've been saying ever since it was first rumoured.

In my opinion, it's actually quite a silly move on HTC's behalf. They're advertising the One as being the best phone in the world but then having it's key features removed to just be left with the same specs. Specs wise, this phone doesn't dominate the competition. It's specs + the HTC experience which make it a game changer.

Quicker updates on the Google edition won't make a difference to us lot over here anyway because as soon as it gets an update, we'll get it right away anyway thanks to the devs.

Availability is another key reason why this is a bad choice. The current models have been low on stock pretty much since release. Therefore it would make more sense for HTC not to bother with the Google edition and use the resources to build more Sense versions.

Bad HTC :rolleyes:
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
Yup, I would have loved it if they started contributing to AOSP instead.
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
what he said;) i just do not get why not just provide those features on stock aosp instead of the skins they provide....if sammy and htc did all those cool features they have for the skins for stock android that would be the end of apple...but no we have the skins that provide the fragmentation...if companies wanted to be unique then that would be the way..

agree with you on that..i still do not see the point of having an s4 with TW and one without..same goes with the One...either from next flagships make android all round to be stock and get rid of the skins or just let the nexus be the flagship for google and let the rest be the way it is now without the google editions..

sometimes i wonder maybe apple is the best afterall:D
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
GET OUT!

SGS2 FAQ | HTC One FAQ
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
:p
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
It remembers me of the Desire and Nexus One,same internals though with slight differences,but at least the design was different.It was fun to port Sense from Desire to Nexus One and AOSP from Nexus One to Desire.

Zoe can't be ported on other phones so why HTC is afraid to implement it on the One AOSP version?

Also don't they know it will be very easy to port AOSP from One to Oneother? :eek:

The only good thing is that it will help alot CM and MIUI devs for One
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
problem is and i am really surprised to see that there is no MIUI for Nexus 4:(
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Supply issues are over and they should be able to meet demand by the time the Nexus edition launches
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
They've said supply issues are over before when they clearly haven't been. HTC's word doesn't really mean a whole lot at the moment.

SGS2 FAQ | HTC One FAQ
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Actually the only thing that worries me with this is if what they are planning with HTC One is to be an alternate semi Nexus phone or only AOSP phone.

Thing is they could slap AOSP ROMs into this phone but that might not warrant us for faster updates. Who knows they could just slap in a 4.2.2 AOSP ROM then leave it like that forever. What makes Nexus devices attractive is the openess of the drivers etc. But with the google edition would HTC warrant the release of the source code of their drivers?

Sense 5.0 > closed source AOSP ROM
[One (M7) General] Ali_ultra99:
The updates is controlled directly from google, so if there are any delays on am update it will be google to blame, htc sure gave them everything they will need, and I think that the one hardware can clearly handle future updates.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
updates straight from google, this was confirmed by HTC
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
even better
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC reportedly cancels plans for full-size Windows RT tablet, but 7-inch tablets still on track

An HTC One without Sense is not an HTC One

20nm mobile processors in 2014

personally i couldn't care less about the S800, its still 28nm despite the improvement to the process, so it will mostly throttle and we will able to get a lot of the Adreno 330 drivers improvements for our Adreno 320, think of it as Adreno 225 vs Adreno 220, lets hope their next 20nm SOC with Adreno4xx will be on time and makes it to the next HTC flagships

most important i think Qualcomm number 1 priority should be to deal with throttling

i know Nvidia promised us GPU awesomeness T5 but i remain skeptic, i expect one of two, either a major delay as usual or butchering the promised kepler performance by 60% in order to fit the power budget, even worse knowing Nvidia it can be both delay + compromise :rolleyes:

meanwhile Adreno 320 + ElementalX is a dream
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Android 4.3 Jelly Bean will have IR-Blaster support: here’s why
[One (M7) General] hdorius:
http://phandroid.com/2013/05/31/best-android-phones-june-2013/
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
The HTC One is no doubt the best phone this year, no doubt.
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
I've fully depleted my one and now I can't charge it or turn it on... The notification light doesn't even lit up when I plug it in! Did anyone experienced this before? Is there any way I could let the phone charge? Should I contact the store? I'm on fully stock.
[One (M7) General] Pointlol:
Lmao, you're back again I see. What did you not like about the S4 if I may ask?
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
How long did you let it charge? Sometimes when a battery is completely drained, it takes a few minutes for the notification light to turn up, and it may blink for awhile before settling :)
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
ahaha the i9500 not work out? :') Glad to see you back :)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
5 minutes already and still nothing