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[Greenify] eushaun99:
For a greenified app to be degreenified, it has to be opened. Uninstalling greenify wont do anything, since the app is already hibernated. It will stay hibernated unless some other app wakes it. And since you greenified some system app that probably doesn't have a UI, you have to make a full wipe. If it has a UI, just open it and all is well. If not, just install Titanium Backup and backup your 600++ apps and make a full wipe. I know its time consuming, but that's the only way.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well there are only three system apps which I've greenified. And the one causing messages to crash and so on is My magazine, which does have an ui. But my magazine fcloses because watchon (remote samsung tv control) is greenified. And vice versa.....

Is there no other way to dregreenify them?
[Greenify] themadproducer:
@kevin_1351

Follow these steps exactly...

- reinstall Greenify

- open Greenify ui

- do you see apps that are in the hibernated state? If yes, then single click an app name, then press the right facing triangle icon at the bottom. This will run the app and temporarily ungreenify it. Don't kill any of these apps. Rinse and repeat for each hibernated app.

- now all your Greenify apps should be in the PENDING list. None of them should be hibernated anymore.

- this time, in Greenify, LONG PRESS the app at the TOP of the list until it's highlighted. Continue to SINGLE CLICK the rest of the apps until all the pending apps are simultaneously highlighted. Click the X icon at the bottom.

- your apps should now be unhibernated and no longer in the Greenify list and should no longer auto hibernate.

- reboot. If any of these apps were meant to start at boot, they should now be running in the background.

- open Greenify, and verify that there are no pending or hibernated apps. Zero.

- uninstall greenify, and you should be good to go.

- report back
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Ok so, although I've already done it. I've done exactly as you said again. But during boot the apps still don't start. But the greenify list stays clear (even after reboot). As always though. After reinstallation, the list reappears!!! This also means that greenify still has some files on the system, or worse, that it still exists as some kind of process.

Also something strange: when i deleted grenify from superuser it should ask me for su permission when restoring system apps right? Well it doesn't.

As I've statet before, it seems that greenify lives on, beyond its death. And it seems that greenify app ui has no connection (at least no writable/ output) the real greenify process itself. It seems to only read the list from the already existing instance of greenify, and that's about it. Even after uninstalling the greenify app; the real app, while not listed anywhere, still works.

Cheers
[Greenify] eikcihc:
can anyone share the link for beta 3? would like to try out because GCM hasn't been working on my LG G2 all these while so wanna check if it is working haha
[Greenify] kantjer:
You need to register as a beta tester on Google+ to get via Google Play.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Just READ the front page.
[Greenify] ayoubij:
I can manually hibernate it but after a while i see it running again. Even without touching bluetooth and it is off. I rarely use bluetooth.

Im on stock touchwiz rom (themed) for i9300 android 4.3

Thats why i didnt tick the last option since it said it is for below 4.3
[Greenify] eikcihc:
oops sorry my fault hahaha

yup thanks so much bro for helping!
[Greenify] timberwolf60:
Regarding su granted permission problem, unticked greenify in xpose module. Reboot. Then ticked it in xpose module, reboot again and run greenify, this time su will asked for permission, granted it and will be okay.

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my Sg device: Z1 rooted136 ROM by NUT with 2.7.94 dualrecovery, mod by GavityBox 2.9.7. Samsung S2 standby for Z1 when Z1 no power.
[Greenify] pugsang:
I am using Automateit pro. Since there in no greenify plugin for Automateit I wonder if anybody knows the shell command that the Greenify shortcut uses for Hibernate now. This way I will be able to setup a rule for this specific task when screen comes off.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Oh man I'm getting sick of greenify....

Everytime i reboot greenify settings get a full reset.

So basically i can't get su permissions and i guess that's the reason that the system apps don't get degreenified again.

I still don't get why the list of apps comes back after every reinstallation.

Even the non system/non root requiring apps.
[Greenify] an0n981:
Dude it sounds like your system fubared. I would reflash your rom with a clean install
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Yeah.... so it seems....

But greenify is the only app acting like this. All the other ones work fine.

I still believe in my theory. There have to be some files/scripts somewhere but well.....

Let's waste another 5 ours of my life.
[Greenify] memaro_maro:
wow... great theory!! ??

700++ apps installed. what??

not sure what actually you doing. never heard this weird issues. maybe u never do factory reset (fresh install) for a long time bcoz of that 700 apps installed.

so, no wonder..
[Greenify] sonwon:
Simple, sometimes the quickest fix is a factory reset. So choose, factory reset or continue floundering for an easy solution. The best suggestion I saw so far was the factory reset for your case.
[Greenify] Micoolef:
Just want to confirm a few things before I get going with Greenify again.

1. Autohibernation just means that Greenified apps re-hibernate themselves after being closed? And turning off autohibernation means I will have to manually hibernate them every time I open and close the application?

2. What constitutes as being 'closed'? If the app remains in the recent tasks list, will it remain open and not hibernate? If I swipe the app out of the recents list or 'kill' the application, does that count as being closed and allow the app the hibernate automatically?

3. Last time I used Greenify I was able to hide certain apps from the list. How does one go about UNhiding them?

4. Does uninstalling Greenify revert all hibernation processes back to stock? In other words, if I wanted to degreenify all greenified apps, will uninstalling Greenify do it and remove all revert all hibernating apps? Or do I have to manually degreenify each greenified app before uninstalling Greenify?

TIA
[Greenify] thanhhii:
Same problem with any people when hibernate Viber, facebook..... With GCM enable! Some time get notification, sometime nothing

Example: when hibernated Viber. My friend send me a message => Viber wake up (see in setting/app) but dont receive message => then after 5minute it push the message to me! I have tested many time!

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[Greenify] peikojose:
Dear [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] we need a way to edit the time for auto hibernation after screen off... It seems to short for me... I would like it to be at least 15min... Best regards.
[Greenify] iamnotkurtcobain:
Too long for me.. Adjustable time would be great tough

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[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well actually I just did a factory reset one week ago. That's why I don't want to do it again cause it takes ages. Last week it was because an se android bug caused by samsung that made EVERY app fc all the time and and and...

I do know however what I'm doing, I'm not a noob in that sense; maybe with android a bit, but stil.

NOTHING else on the device is broken. Just greenify, and the fact that some apps remain greenified.

My theory was and still is that greenify kinda works like a firewall.

There are active firewalls, more effective but power hungry, and there are passive ones that simply rely on a hosts file. If you now remove the firewall, the host file remains obviously. The same might be the case here.

Some of the changes greenify has made remain. And it seems that greenify ui won't work as it should anymore on my phone (maybe just because of this). It's really funny how little everyone knows about greenify in the end. What changes is DOES do, where it stores temp files or whatever. But in the android world (and i have to say that in this regard android sucks, cause it really is more fragile as a system), once you have a problem the solution is always to full wipe. On ios you can trace stuff a lot better and and and. I'm sure you can here too, but it's never getting done.

Is there someone, part from the never responding dev, who truly understands greenify?

Cheers
[Greenify] sonwon:
I think many here think it is a ROM problem and not Greenify. It could even be a conflicting application or applications. I hesitate to reply since you do not like the suggested cure.
[Greenify] pitastrudl:
1.the dev is very kind and certainly does respond as much as he can. He has to work on the app, improving it and simultaneously running his own personal life.

2. greenify is not a firewall, lol. it uses the command pm-disable so it kinda "kindly freezes" your greenified apps.

3.you can trace stuff also on android... dont tell me you dont have anl catlog app among the 700 apps you have?

4. i think the main problem here is your 700 apps. you should delete the apps you dont use.

5. android is not a fragile system, it all depends on the user how its managed :).

p.s. this thread has all the answers you need, just sit down and read trough, it's like an oasis of knowledge :)

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[Greenify] themadproducer:
@kevin_1351

Test this scenario. (methodically, step by step please)

(consider reporting back step by step as well...like a check list)

Pick a simple app that you say should be loaded into ram at boot. Make sure you know for 100% fact, that this app is supposed to do this normally. Let us know what it is so we can follow you on this and verify.

Run this app manually, and verify to US that it works. Do not kill it. Exit with your home button.

Use a task manager like System Tuner Pro to verify that this said app example, is in fact loaded into ram.

Do not turn the screen off.

We are assuming you do not have any other auto task killers or startup control apps running, right?

Reboot your device, and do not let the screen time out and turn off near the end of the boot process.

Again... Once booted up, use a task manager like System Tuner Pro to verify that this said app example, is in fact loaded into ram.

Fact... Greenify will not hibernate at boot. It does its thing 3min after the screen turns off. So if this said app is not loaded into ram during this post boot check, then I would be confident to say that the culprit is not Greenify, regardless of the details and weirdness you have reported thus far.

You could also do this test with greenify installed, but auto hibernation disabled.

Report back.
[Greenify] Nicois:
inhibit greenify in certain situations

I love greenify. It lets me use apps which would otherwise suck my battery.

The thing is, that many of these apps are doing useful things - just not things I want to be running all the time in the background.

What I would love is the option to only greeenify apps if I was in a position where I wanted to save power. e.g. if I have more than 90% battery and/or am charging, I am happy for the apps to run in the background. This means my cloud sync apps can run, push email will work, other instant messaging apps will work, etc when my phone is docked.

Does this make sense, or am I missing something?
[Greenify] an0n981:
Turn off auto-hibernation in greenify and use tasker to trigger the hibernation. You can set up as many scenarios as the day is long
[Greenify] pugsang:
Anyone? [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] ?
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Does Automateit pro have the ability to run a short cut?

This would be it...Shortcut>Hibernate Now
[Greenify] pugsang:
Unfortunately no. That's why I am asking for the shell command.
[Greenify] Georgel25:
Hello everyone,

I did a clean install of SlimSaber 4.4.2 (21/02) and after, installed Greenify and BBS. I had enabled root access and wake-up tracker, after which i greenified Google Play Store/Services/Framework...the thing is, that after some time (couple of hours i guess, didn't calculate exactly), Greenify wakes up Google Play Services and automaticaly, Google Service Framework wakes up too.

Why is this happening ? I believe Greenify should hibernate them, not wake them up :D i didn't encountered this issue with Greenify, until today every time it was working ok...good that i was able to cut down the wakeup with the help wake-up tracker. It's kinda strange :eek:

Regards
[Greenify] themadproducer:
It might not be Greenify.

I remember Oasisfeng saying that the wake up tracker isn't always 100% accurate depending on scenarios. Google Play Services is easily woken by many apps. In fact, My Tapatalk just woke it. So maybe you have an app or widget running that is triggering it. Just a thought.
[Greenify] Georgel25:
But that's the thing, i only have Greenify and Better Battery Stats installed :D
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Sure, but it could be a stock app or even acct sync. Again, that's just my experience.
[Greenify] peikojose:
Idear [MENTION=4376588]oasisfeng[/MENTION] i just installed tasker to change the time to aurohibernate after screen off... It worked fine but I got nasty wakelocks... I would prefer the app to have that feature included... Please
[Greenify] johnny_cage:
I'm sorry, I was wrong, everything works good. sorry

thank you for what your are doing :)
[Greenify] :
Am I the only one encounter lags ? Battery is better but it's lagging more and more I can simply realize that. Especially in scrolling (almost every heavy app) & launchers. I'm using Touchwiz 4.1.2 with custom kernel & heavily debloated.
[Greenify] arfter:
With the last beta, app list loads more slowly than previous versions!
[Greenify] seafood99:
So i got the donation pack and immidiately zzz'ed a system app called MotoCare.

But to track a lost device it needs MotoCare (which i just found out), so i deleted MotoCare from Greenify's list, but whatever i try, it wont restart MotoCare's process/service...

Anyone got a solution for this would be much appreciated!
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Yaaaaay another guy with my exact same problem. But instead of helping us and so on. Everybody's saying that we have to preform a full wipe...

So now with this other dude, i hope that you start taking me seriously instead of giving my other apps and my knowledge the blame.

It's clear that greenify doesn't work as it should with some system apps.

It doesn't dregreenify them correctly.

They only forceclose. I want answers. Form someone who really knows, like the dev himself.

Not from someone who thinks that it's enough to only wipe the cache and the data from /data/data/ blablabla. I'm sick of it.

And fullwipes are not a solution. That's just for people not knowing the real problem behind it.

I want answers. And now it's safe to say that I'm not the only one.
[Greenify] rignfool:
All I have to say is...

If you trust the dev... Believe what he/she puts in the app... Those warnings are there for a reason... But... Since its android... It's your device to destroy if you so choose...

Just like in the app... You've been warned ?
[Greenify] kernelmoron:
I just noticed that this doesn't happen anymore, I started getting the notification on the first message. The only thing I changed was dirty flash to 20140226 nightly from 20140219.

Greenify 2.1 (build 7)

RAZR HD (XT 925)

CM 11 (02-26 nightly)
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Did you de-greenify Motocare before you removed it from the list? And then a full reboot?
[Greenify] ZioGTS:
I want many things too, but I still try to be polite. If there's one thing I'm sick of, it's reading messages like this one.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 4 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Yeah you're fully right, it was wrong of me. I'm honestly sorry for that.

You just have to understand that we're let in the dark here. With the only "solution" being to preform a full wipe. And we're also getting suggested to wipe the cache, reboot ten million times and what not, although doesn't have to do with this. That's what is making me feel this way.

You're right though, and i do apologize for my last message.

I really hope that the dev could only shed some light on this. At least letting us know what exactly is happening.
[Greenify] sonwon:
Is it possible you are trying to write an application that emulates this application?
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Yeah sure, all I've wanted this whole time is the damn source code.

Dude, just cause you know how rockets work mathematically and theoretically; it doens't make you NASA...

//pff
[Greenify] ayoubij:
That wasnt my question. The warning comes up for all system apps. But there are system apps that some people never or rarely use and which can be greenified safely. So your answer is wrong in all directions that i look into it. Besides than that, it doesnt answer any of my specific questions.
[Greenify] sonwon:
Well in a previous lifetime when I was writing my own application a user wanted to know how I coded my text files so they could build there own text files. So I shared. Never heard from him again, I think all he wanted was to decode my text so he could include the same text in his application. So knowing what is under the hood is the first step to build an engine. No flame wars I was just asking and I hope you find the answer you are looking for one day.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
If you don't know explicitly what a system app is or does, then leave it alone. Unless a particular system app is causing wake locks and draining your battery, then also leave it alone. Why are people using this as a task killer, despite oasisfeng saying many, many times that it is not intended as such?

If you still mess with things you do not understand despite the warnings and something stops working, then it's your own fault. It's your responsibility to have made a backup of your system before performing actions that may break something anyway.

If you do still feel the need to post here demanding assistance, then please remember firstly that it helps to be polite when asking for help. That applies here and in your daily life in general.

Secondly, you should also remember that oasisfeng is based in China, and therefore keeps different hours to many of you, so some patience when asking for help is expected.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well, I don't know how complex your application was but greenify is certainly not that easy to build. So knowing the basic function of it won't at all make it easier to copy. If a dev is good he could just recreate it anyway. Maybe solving matters with other methods.

It's normal though that you share at least to some extent how your application operates.

And in this case, knowing where/if greenify puts script files or other stuff in the system, and what it does to greenify apps is essential.

It's impossible for us to just guess it. So to solve our problems we need to know.

And any guy who really wanted could just reverse engineer it et voilà....

It's not rocket science in the end for those who really would like to.
[Greenify] vesper7dd:
I have grenify Google services on my GTab2/CM11 and I have no problem at all..

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[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well i asked polite at first for sure.

And this was days ago. And i emailed him even before that....

Secondly it's not stated at all that you can't dregreenify apps that have a UI.

This is clearly a bug, that besides there are still files on my system somewhere even after I installed greenify, and other bugs aswell.

This doens't have to do with OUR experience. If we dregreenify apps that fall into the category he warned us for then yes, you're right. Then it's our fault/ignorance. If not though, forget it.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
There's no mystery to how Greenify works, at least basically.

A cleaner service runs after screen off and force stops the apps you specified via Android's activity manager.

You can see what Greenify is doing if you turn on logging in SuperSu, for example.
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Well I've got that far.....

While we're at it: A phone uses a microphone to register your voice and send it as waves of light.

.......
[Greenify] kingvortex:
What a rude person you are. Before you continue posting, you should know that I already reported some of your earlier posts due to their ignorant, demanding tone. So, being as a mod will probably be looking at this thread when they get around to it, I would knock it off and just wait patiently to see if oasisfeng answers your questions. :)
[Greenify] sonwon:
Unfortunately, I have to agree, you are walking a thin line here.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Look into the command

am start

Here's some reading - http://developer.android.com/tools/help/adb.html#am

Being as Greenify uses am to stop apps from running, then that may help. I'm only an interested amateur, though, so somebody more in the know might tell you that it's no help.
[Greenify] seafood99:
Yes, i did, but it only came back after disableing the experimental features in the menu, and another reboot.

But just to be clear, I did not want to start a fire here; be nice to eachother kids!!

We posted around the same time, anyway so I got MotoCare back up running, but put it back into sleep as soon as I found out its a service only for USA haha.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Oh, well. Glad you got it working again. I do not mind trying to help out those that ask politely. :)
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
Listen, I really mean no disrespect. But you have to stay to your own game. I've been accused of ignorant of how android works amd operates, of wanting to copy his work, of not being able to wipe the dalvik, reboot a phone and last but not least I'm repeatedly told that this is my fault.

Then you come in the game and tell me something that quite frankly anybody knows isn't at all what we need/requested.

If your answer really was serious, i do apologize. I took it as a troll.

Just to make this straight for once: most of us having these problems know what we're doing. This IS a bug. Period.

And what i mean with: how Greenify works is simply what files it stores and where and how/when they get executed. Knowing this could maybe get me/us to fix out systems quite easily.

I'm just tired some of the accusations people make here. Telling me/others what we can and can't do. This isn't OUR fault.

If i misinterpreted your messages: sorry for that bro.

It's just frustrating though, try to put yourself in my shoes for once.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Forum rules.

Read those.

Ask your question, politely, then wait. The end. No need to keep on posting in here many times a day.

As for anything else, if you're going to interfere with how Android functions, it's your responsibility to make a backup beforehand.

Edit - While I'm at it, you do not understand how Greenify works. In previous posts, you seem to think that it uses the package manager.

It does not, it uses the activity manager. Before you tell me again that I told you something you already know, you should really check your facts.

With that, I'm done wasting my time on an impatient, impolite, demanding person that doesn't deserve help.

Have a nice day. :)
[Greenify] kevin_1351:
No it's not. If i follow the guides and don't go against the directives of the dev himself: it's not my responsibility. If that would be the case, any dev could just post an update with su rights which corrupts the whole system with no consequences for himself.

Nope. In this case it's stated that degreenified apps only have to be launched to work again. So all they need is a UI.

There is NOT stated anywhere that there's a potential risk of them force closing upon the greenifying.

If there were I would never have posted one single post on this thread, and would have taken my full responsibilities.