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[Greenify] dansan382:
hey guys wondering if u could help me out. downloaded greenify then purchased the donate key. im trying to hibernate google maps just like my brother does on his GS3 but everytime i do it, the app says i cannot because its a system app. now i did some research before i posted and everyones response was to hit some "insist" button but i dont have anything like that. any suggestions? the app has root permissions
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Did you install the Xposed module? If not, go do that :D
[Greenify] dansan382:
that i did not... thank you very much. i will search for that

Edit: installed xposed installer, installed the framework, rebooted and configured greenify. thanks again! everything is golden
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Well it's your call.

But, can I add this...

... does the "retry" implementation on a Manual or TASKER initiated hibernation cause extra load or hassle in your code? I mean, why not allow Greenify to do that extra check in all scenarios not just at screen off? From a user point of view, it's less responsibility on the user, less clicking, a more reliable and consistent experience for those random and rare few times when a stubborn app does not hibernate on first try.

Thanks
[Greenify] Simone:
Has anyone tried Greenify-ing CSC (com.android.phone)?

As I have read that it is not safe to freeze. Is it okay to Greenify though?
[Greenify] Byteater:
It's a core app .. I also think that it may cause problems.. csc is involved in checking software updates..

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[Greenify] bilaliz:
You were absolutely right. It was superuser app that was failing. installed superSU on top of it which fixed the problem. thanks a million sir!
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Does anyone use Rdio music app?

If yes, I know it hibernates fine, but it eventually re-spawns.

Any clues?
[Greenify] tisazalay:
Well, Play beat Oasisfeng :p

I got beta 3 and it's not mentioned here yet... Thanks for the update.
[Greenify] Byteater:
I'm subscribed to beta updates.. you are doing a very good job.. thank you! :)

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[Greenify] vikstk:
Beta 3 fixed GCM problem on HTC One! (android 4.1) Previouly I couldn't receive push notifications if whatsapp is greenified. Now it's working perfectly. Thanks. One of the most awesome dev on XDA.
[Greenify] CM17X:
As far i tried, you can't hibernate radio app (htc one x)

Seriously? You still getting the message alarm? Gotta try.
[Greenify] themadproducer:
Hey,

not the RADIO app...but rather "Rdio". (app is similar to Spotify/Slacker etc)
[Greenify] twe90kid:
before I donate. does anyone know if apps like Naver Line and Wechat can get notification if it's greenified? I'm hearing that Whatsapp can now be greenified and receive notification....
[Greenify] rysup:
I don't think wechat uses GCM... line I'm not sure about.
[Greenify] vikstk:
Naver Line can be greenified while receiving notification for me. (HTC One)
[Greenify] dbett4:
Full Review

Hey guys, I did a full review of this app at AndroidDissected. Go check it out. http://www.androiddissected.com/sluggish-phone-turn-it-new-again-with-greenify/
[Greenify] twosix:
running beta3 on HTC1. Whatsapp is hibernated and it does not receive any text until I run it.
[Greenify] davtse:
Doesn't work on my s3 as well. Using 4.2.2
[Greenify] peped94:
i think only donate version can receive notification even the apps are greenified
[Greenify] davtse:
I'm on the donate version but not receiving notifications on aosp 4.2.2. On stock 4.1.2 working flawlessly.
[Greenify] Voklav:
+1 (aaand Subscribe :D )
[Greenify] khanhlnq:
Background apps that show notification icon?

Does Greenify hibernate background apps that showing icon in notification bar?
[Greenify] itandy:
I tried that too but Play store seems fine until I used it to update some app and then it FC.
[Greenify] joshuaw84:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Subscribed +1 on this bad boy. Instant donation! Thanks!
[Greenify] MrxSiN:
Example of what app really?
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
1. There's no "app close" on Android. Do difference between "switch out" and "exit". Hibernate on app close will lead to a bad experience, not only because you may soon back to the app and lose all the context, but also "hibernation" operation itself may introduce a short lag. That's why it is postponed to screen off.

2. You mean multi-selection? That's a fair suggestion to implement.

3. We should never judge a person on first sight, why do so to an app? :( App analyzer of Greenify will be continously improved to judge apps by their actual behaviors, not just what them declare.
[Greenify] ariftwister:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Can anybody give link to the latest version? For some reasons I cant download from playstore:(
[Greenify] khanhlnq:
For example: Google Play Music.

It's ok to hibernate idle Google Play Music, but while playing Google Play Music will show a notification icon, does Greenify hibernate it in this case?
[Greenify] Harsha Raj:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

When playing google play music will be out of hibernation and hence it will show all kinds of notifications. If you don't want any notification when playing it then you can go to Google play music under app manager and un tick on "show notifications"
[Greenify] Peacen1k:
Thank you OP, Greenify working great for me! The only apps I needed to hibernate were Facebook, Google Maps, Amazon Appstore, and another app that I keep on the phone just in case but don't use. This gained me a few percent battery life over the day (mostly because the offending apps stopped waking up my phone when I wasn't watching!), and some RAM breathing room.
[Greenify] ynkamat:
Thanks to greenify developer. Saved lot of battery. GMaps was the culprit however it was a system app. Uninstalled it via TB and installed back via play store. Have hibernated it and saved useless 25% battery drain at night. :) Thanks again.
[Greenify] Soundtrack to Chaos:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Yes it does
[Greenify] khanhlnq:
Great. That's what I want.
[Greenify] agentdude:
Alright thanks for the reply and explanations. Yes i do mean multi-selection. That is probably my most wanted feature
[Greenify] ganeshp:
KUDOS to the OP

awesome app im looking for something like this ..I've been using autostarts (confusing as hell) until now but now im completely switching to this ..it a delight to use this app :D thanks again
[Greenify] nedooo:
Yup, it is realistic that it doesn't hibernate program I want. I didn't expect nothing and that is what I got.

I'm more and more sceptic about those system tweaking apps, like Google engineers are not miles ahead of this...nuf said...nuf said...nice icon.
[Greenify] reaper90:
ok last try to explan it:

it's not about making android work in another way, google did a great job on android OS! apps are kept running until the system recognizes that you didn't use it for a long time and the resources are needed for another app you just started. the "problem" this app tries to help on is killing those apps who "abuse" system resources although they're not running in foreground.

for more information please also read the seccond post of this thread if you did not already. if you still don't understand what this app is for and/or you dont like it, you should probably stop using it and complaining about it.

no personal offense here, it's just when the app isn't useful for you, then don't use it ;)
[Greenify] Mickets73:
Android 3.1+ only?

This sounds really nice and I think my Galaxy Ace would benefit. Can't it be made in to Android 2.3.4 compatible?

Thanks.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Read the q & a in the second post?
[Greenify] Sheldor1967:
Re: [APP][3.1+] Greenify *ROOT*

Nice work Sir! Running on Rezound running JB. It's nice to pick up the phone after an hour and see the same amount of battery that I saw last!
[Greenify] twosix:
I'm using the donate version. :)
[Greenify] Looki75:
On 1.85 beta 3, it does not show the reason why and who and when an app was woken-up.
[Greenify] OCedHrt:
Off topic..but what app is this? It looks like a pretty BBS :D

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I'm not seeing that either, but I also don't see Greenify (donated) under xposed even though I have it installed, just Greenify 1.85b3.
[Greenify] Looki75:
WakeLock Detective, I use both BBS and WLD.

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I have donate as well, but for me it does appear OK in Xposed. Even shows "Greenify 1.85 beta 3" under Xposed...
[Greenify] OCedHrt:
Thanks! Just installed it. I thought I had that in Xposed even before I donated.
[Greenify] davtse:
the option for donate will fade out in "about" if you have donated, or at least mine did.
[Greenify] CM17X:
Whatsapp is not a big battery consumer. Leave it alone and don't worry about, guys.
[Greenify] davtse:
Its not just whatsapp, the gcm patch isn't working for me period. Just trying to figure out why.
[Greenify] athdaraxen:
I had this problem too. Check and see if you kernel has logging disabled. That was my problem. I have Semaphore and had to download the manager app to enable logging.
[Greenify] rysup:
You can see system apps right?
[Greenify] davtse:
can see everything, what woke up the apps, system apps, etc etc. It's only the GCM patch which isnt working on 4.2.2 AOSP. it works flawlessly on 4.1.2 stock though, so I've temporarily downgraded to test it.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
I need to analyze the cause of the failure at the first time. The "retry“ solution is just a temporary workaround for testing and verifying, thus I don't think it is a good idea to keep it as final solution. I just need more time to digg into the issue. :)
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Could you see that in the previous beta?
[Greenify] edison218:
Hi everyone, previously on 1.85 beta 2 my notification doesn't come in. I think I went into xposed installer and untick greenify modules reboot and tick back greenify modules reboot from one of the earlier suggestion. Now notifications works perfectly, on facebook messenger, facebook and whatsapp with it greenified. However there are some "bugs", like for example I receive a notification at 530pm followed by a missed call at 545pm. The other notification won't show up, when I look at the phone later only the missed call. However, if the missed call came before the notification. All notification works well.

Thanks. Just to bring to your attention, hope it can be solve. Excellent work still, oasisfeng. Keep it up!
[Greenify] Looki75:
Previous beta was just fine; I could see why and who and when the particular greenified app was woken-up.
[Greenify] z3r0_x:
You really need logging to get it to work?
[Greenify] ratcav:
Gcm patch isn't working for me (Nexus 4)

I can see system apps, I can greenify in boost mode (without the superuser granted message) but I can't receive notifications for greenified apps.

I've tried the untick, reboot, tick, reboot method but nothing has changed :(
[Greenify] athdaraxen:
That's what oasisfeng told me to do when it wasn't working for me. I don't know the technical reasoning behind it, I just know that's what made it work for me. :3 Maybe oasisfeng can shed some light on this.
[Greenify] Narenji89:
Please separate user and system apps in hibernated list. It would help to have better control on greenfied system apps
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
You may need to restart your device after Greenify is updated, for Xposed module to work.
[Greenify] STAticKY:
Hmmm I'm running temasek's ROM and kernel (cm10.1 based aosp 4.2.2) and I greenify gmail and Facebook messenger. I receive notifications for gmail while its hibernated but not for FB messenger....

TP.
[Greenify] thracemerin:
Facebook doesn't use GCM push.
[Greenify] STAticKY:
Ah right. Explains that then. Thanks

TP.
[Greenify] davtse:
It does. If you go to gtalk service monitor, you'll notice after you receive a notification, your gtalk heartbeat will reset and your c2dm/gcm counter will reset as well.
[Greenify] davtse:
I've found the issue with gcm for my device. The push is received by the device, but the app doesn't respond, but I'm not sure why.
[Greenify] tisazalay:
Title update

Hi, just a quick reminder that the Thread title still shows beta 2 although we are on 3 and commenting on it. Please ignore my post if it takes time from developing!!! It's not THAT important.

:p
[Greenify] stas333:
So I got the donation version of the app on my sprint gs3 with deodexed stock md4 rom. I was hoping to hibernate a few system apps (maps, play store, calendar) but even with the beta version, none can be added to greenify
[Greenify] kingvortex:
Did you install Xposed and the module for Greenify, like it says you have to in the description of the donate app?
[Greenify] rysup:
I get fb updates from the Facebook app when it's hibernated but fb messenger otoh doesn't seem to work (whilst hibernated)...

Did you click insist?
[Greenify] stas333:
thanx. installed and insisted to add system apps to the list. im going to monitor for a day or 2 to see how it works out.
[Greenify] rysup:
I'm usually on Wi-Fi at the time so I can never tell what's causing it lol
[Greenify] bsoplinger:
I'm rather new to using this app so haven't read the myriad of posts, but...

Can folks who've Greenify-ed system apps successfully chime in with which apps worked? Or for that matter which ones caused issues?

The only system apps I've touched were mail and gmail since I use kaiten and SMS since I use Go and I just froze them with Titanium Backup Pro. But there's plenty more that chew up cycles and memory I'd like to see shut down.

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Greenify] stas333:
so far i added both good play apps, youtube, google search, media storage, calendar, and calendar storage. calendar storage keeps waking up every time i turn the screen on, but other than that, no issues.
[Greenify] kulguy:
The new beta3 works great on my two 4.1.2 devices.

Gcm patch finally pleases me wow!

Thank you again!! :)

And.. suggestion:

Could it be possible that Greenify logs and shows notifications received after hibernation? ..

After hibernation, notifications are gone along with hibernated apps themselves, making me unaware of if there are notifications unless I catch them immediately.

If greenify can log and show notifications of hibernated apps, unawareness of notifications should be gone.

It doesn't have to showing the exact contents. Maybe just counting the number of GCM a certain hibernated app received will suffice.

Persistent notification could be implemented for that purpose, and at the same time it could work for other purposes.

It seems that I'm insatiable.. Before I got GCM patch to work, I simply wanted it to work. .But now I want more and more once it worked :eek:
[Greenify] kulguy:
It seems it does.

I'm sorry that the image I uploaded is not illegible to you because it's not written in English.. But you can see a text that reads Woken by Google Services Framework, which means GCM woke it up.
[Greenify] STAticKY:
I know Facebook supports gcm. I was talking about Facebook messenger...

Edit: I don't know if tapatalk 4 uses gcm but greenified or not I never receive notifications from it...

TP.
[Greenify] bsoplinger:
Tapatalk 4, like Tapatalk HD, only supports Tapatalk style push notifications. All are turned off by default. There was a bit of fervor about that "upgrade" in behavior when HD was released. All off topic for this thread but at least you know why you're not seeing notifications.

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[Greenify] MoonBlade:
suggestion

The greenify widget could be given permission to " unhibernate "and hibernate on alternate clicks. In thiis way we dont have to open up the app each time to "unhibernate" specific apps.

Thank you.
[Greenify] post-mortem:
You "unhibernate" an app by running it. Unless you mean to say "ungreenify."
[Greenify] MatMaul:
Hi,

Is it possible to add an option to not greenify an application when it still has a foreground activity going on (like a persistent notification)?

This would be really neat for maps or airdroid.

I think this kind of option should be per app to prevent stupid app that keep themselve foreground without a persistent notification ( I have heard that this behavior will be forbidden in some future android version)

Thanks

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[Greenify] davtse:
facebook messenger uses GCM too. actually for all the apps you're not sure about, you can use the gtalk service monitor in push notifications fixer and check to see last C2DM received. I think the main issue here is some aps react badly to being greenified. I know the device still gets the GCM push, it just doesnt know what to do with it in AOSP?
[Greenify] STAticKY:
What do you mean gcm finally pleases you, what you have described that you want is exactly how gcm proxy works as far as I'm aware

TP.
[Greenify] peped94:
if the app is in hibernated state then i launch the app, the app will launch from the beginning or it will resume before hibernate state ?
[Greenify] peped94:
I just bought the donation version and didnt try greenify system app since it will cause bad effect i think . I greenify whatsapp and i can still receivethe whatsapp message . What a wonderful job . Anyway, if i greenified wechat,fb and fb messenger can i still receive the notification from that app ? And can anyone recommend what system app can i greenify ? Sorry for a noob question . Hopefully someone can help me
[Greenify] z3r0_x:
How about we create an open Google Docs where everyone can write their Greenify experience for certain apps both in Normal as well as Donation mode?
[Greenify] Simone:
I have Greenified some system apps and there are no such problems yet for about a week now.
[Greenify] MoonBlade:
Sorry meant to say ungreenify...
[Greenify] davtse:
you could use this in conjunction with tasker, What I'm doing now is to hibernate all the apps when I turn off the screen, but I'm sure it can be configured to do app-exits and auto hibernates though complicated.
[Greenify] Ba7rani123:
Can anyone pleaae upload thr greenify xposed module. I cant find it anywhere !! Thanks :)
[Greenify] xcly:
Just install xposed and greenify donate version and you should see the module in xposed
[Greenify] DaChris2k13:
this is an awesome app i love it thanks for it
[Greenify] kulguy:
I mean I was pleased with gcm proxy working :D

Maybe I'm mistaken about how gcm proxy works, but AFAIK although a hibernated app can receive GCM notification by being woken up by gcm proxy, it will be hibernated and notification be gone too after a short while.

So actually users can be aware of notifications only before it is hibernated. Once it is hibernated, users cannot know if there are notifications, until they launch it.

Leaving greenified apps unhibernated is unreasonable to let users aware of notifications. This can make greenify far less effective.

So I think it is better greenify keeps working just as it is, and does additional work to show which apps were woken by GCM, and how many times they were, even after they are re-hibernated.

Still what is working is only greenify, but users can know they got notifications after considerable times elapsed.

If what I described is already implemented, it is my mistake!
[Greenify] peped94:
i had greenify wechat and cant receive any message from it . but whatsapp and fb messenger works well .
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
To clarify it out, the GCM patch is not a proxy, it never sits between the GSF (or Google Play services) and the target app. The patch just tells the GSF to wake up the target app if it is in hibernation when delivering push message.

I think there's an issue that hibernation will also remove the already shown notifications, so in your view, those notifications were never coming.

I'll try to fix this issue.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
What a shame WeChat is not embracing GCM push. :(

We should send suggestion for GCM support to app developers.
[Greenify] peped94:
Can anyone here suggest me what system app that is safe to be greenify ?
[Greenify] sadastronaut:
It seems to be that Google Play keeps using the Network Locator wakelocks. When I hibernate Play, these wakelocks are reduced drastically.
[Greenify] winnici:
New play store update for fixing location bugs: http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/05/29/download-latest-google-play-store-4-1-10/
[Greenify] The Broken:
Why would you greenify it when you want it to be not greenified :s?

Anyway, for some apps this is already possible, the app will show as l perceptible" and it won't be hibernated.

Like maps and Endomodo (sports tracker).

Just don't press the home button on your device so they stay on the foreground, or use multi-window
[Greenify] MatMaul:
Yeah you're right it works for navigation even when it is in the notification bar.

That was my main use case since airdroid doesn't drain battery that much, but I still think this is generally a good idea :

if the app is in the notification bar I know that it is running so I can close it manually, while I have no control over its state when "closed" if I don't use greenify.

I agree that my foreground rule previously cited is too broad, but not greenify app with a persistent notification look like a natural behavior to me.

Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 4 avec Tapatalk
[Greenify] twosix:
It is not a big deal to me, but this is my experience with whatsapp notification:

I have htc1 4.1.2 trickdroid 5.6.0 with whatsapp greenified and hibernated. i have another phone with whatsapp sending text to the htc1. i can see the sent text has only 1 tick, meaning the text has not been received by the htc1. the htc1 also did not notify the text has been received. once i wake up the htc1 whatsapp by running it, i am immediately notified, and the other phone also immediately show 2 ticks.

in summary, whatsapp does not work with hibernated by greenify.
[Greenify] davtse:
Works fine on my phone. It just doesn't play well with all phones that's all
[Greenify] mixtapes08:
What about a feature that can detect wheter or not an app is gcm activated? That would much useful..

-3StarsAndaSun
[Greenify] thedisturbedone:
This is exactly how it should work! A greenified app should stay greenified until woken up explicitly. I can second the same behavior in my Xperia T.
[Greenify] CM17X:
How where you able to greenify system apps? I have the normal version.
[Greenify] kingvortex:
The donate version allows you to Greenify system apps.
[Greenify] Simone:
Will it be better to de-greenify apps that are not hibernating automatically?
[Greenify] sadastronaut:
That's great to know, thanks! Looks like my phone just updated to that. That was an issue that I couldn't get around, unless I turned off Location Settings or Used Greenify on the Play Store.
[Greenify] oasisfeng:
Greenify is designed to not hibernatize apps with on-going notification.
[Greenify] kulguy:
I'm sorry for using the gcm patch a misleading proxy! I'll do be more careful...

Well im my view, I would say the notifications is not so much never coming as temporary and time-limited.

I didn't know greenify was coded that way. So I thought re-hibernating greenified apps was reasonable, although they got notifications, in that greenify was intended to prevent apps from doing what users didn't want.

While an app gets notifications, it can do everything in addition to showing notifications, like it isn't greenified, can't it? For example, a single notification for Facebook can wake all of its background services which might increase battery usage.

In this point of view, I made the suggestion yesterday.. In short greenify has additional function of so called (brief) notification center for greenified apps.

Perhaps tasker could do this, but I don't have any idea..

I nearly know nothing of Taskers unfortunately..