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[One (M7) General] Karish1989:
Why ? because you want to swim with your phone ? or 'cause it;s a very big phone ?

Or 'cause it's ugly :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Sense 5.0 Wallpapers
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Thanks bro!

So it means someone pulled the system partition...;)
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It isn't as easy to use them as you think, you have to edit and add parts to the pictures before you can set it as your wallpaper, you guys will know what I mean when you try to apply it :D
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Simply use this handy tool.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shirobakama.wallpaper
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
The Engadget Interview: VP of design Scott Croyle talks HTC One at MWC 2013

video at the link, highly recommended watch

i came out with one conclusion: the unibody seems a very impressive achivement but i wouldnt want to repair that thing :D

loved the part were they flirt with the One X perfected screen
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Glad to see you in this forum Hamdir :)

Have you pre-ordered?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
retail my friend, we are still retail style around these parts ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the engadget video interview also confirms the review units were not sent yet (video was shot during MWC)
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Mmm,so no release befoe next week
[One (M7) General] XL2001:
I read somewhere that it's launching in Taiwan this week (March 7). I'll try and find the link.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
mmm sequence shot is not as flawless as i thought :)
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

That is beautiful.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]Q7jnowt3HPA[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

He wasn't walking fast enough lol
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Wish I had enough £££'s to retail, new contract for me with paying off the old one by selling my HOX, I'll be sad to see her go :(

Still got the Nexus 7 for THD effects so not a complete loss :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Since the SGS4 with Exynos 5, 4x A1 + 4x A7 + 544MP3, mostly plastic build is almost confirmed what do you guys think about the One chances

i dont want to bash or discuss the s4, but im asking, will brute power be enough to persuade you away from the HTC One?

i care a lot about GPU power which will most likely be owned by the SGS4 until the s800/T4 devices arrive

i expect HTC to work its hardest to push 4.2 and raise those benchmarks but...there is no denying, power users will eye the SGS4

ofcourse this is going to be a different battle inside the USA because s600 seems to be used in the american model

i dont know, im pretty sure HTC knew all this, so it seems unlike last time they decided not to compete head to head in terms of specs and went for their own niche of features

does this make the HTC One a kind of "unique" specialized android instead of the usual super phone? or did a Tegra 4 version "fail" to make the cut?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I considered myself to be a bit of a 'power user', that was why I chose my HOX in the first place, I didn't 'get on' with the SGS3, I simply didn't think it was more powerful.

I'll stick to the One, I think it has a better chance of besting the SGS4 than the HOX did with the SGS3, purely based upon aesthetics and the technology that has gone into the phone.

I think any gains in raw power you'd gain from having the S4 over the One will be neglible as it's getting a bit harder to tell the difference for the standard user, power users, well, only time will tell...

HTC just need to beat off Samsung atthe marketing games they paly and try to regain back some of the lost ground from the almost Apple level of Fanboy-ism that Samsung users are showing these days.
[One (M7) General] reddragon72:
So here is a quick question. For anyone that can go and look at the phone can you please report back what the app storage space is. Most today have app install storage set for 2Gb and that is just barely enough.

I beleive we will be able to change this up a bit once custom roms are released, but till then I want to make sure I'll have enough room for all my apps.

Thanks.
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Since my 1 month with the SGS2 all I can say ,NEVER again with samsung!

I don't care if the sgs4 is 5% faster, but I care when the One overall is 500% better
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you probably missed my edit

im a little conerned about HTC choices here

im worried they are going into this sort of policy like LG stated as well

"we will no longer compete based on specification wars and instead focus on innovation"
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
on the HTC One X, the app install storage is 6.76GB
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
It appears though that tegra 4 isn't everything that Nvidia originally made it out to be, yes it's nice to have a Tegra but I'm not overly worried about that now, not after seeing the benchmarks... then again I'm not as well versed up on all the numbers as you are Hamdir and I get a little lost sometimes :o

*Edit*

My quote of yours is missing some of what you said, weird.

Yes lets hope that they don't go down the LG road...
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

If the antutu scores are true, Samsung isn't optimizing it well enough, a15 should be much better and krait, for now it's just a difference of 2000. The HOX was scoring 10000 when it first came out, but now it's 15000, 5000 gain!

I don't think that Samsung did enough testing for the octa, so I think bugs like stuck at the wrong cores will occur on their early software.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea my sentenced wasnt finished

i meant to say

im worried HTC is going to focus on "innovations" from now on, instead of specification war

this will isolate HTC into a sort of a different segment but will leave them out from the super phones game
[One (M7) General] Sharpi1:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Delete
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Well since it seemed to be my post that triggered all that fuss I apologyse to fellow forum members. I posted it, trying to contribute with benchmark data for expert users do their thoughts/analysis on SoC performance. And I posted here because being a rival device they could debunk much of the hype, which might be of interest for average joes who visit this forum undecided which device to buy.

Regarding you question, I read today from Murtazin that the SGS4 will be plastic again and it will have the same weaknesses than previous iteration. So I really believe HTC is on the right path by focusing on:

- Marketing investments; holding review units until the latest sw possible, aiming for the best feedback from media.

- Sales channels, partner carriers (broader launch ever)

- Focusing on consumer experience with zoe and blinkfeed.

- Absolutely exquisit design and premium materials:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes im pretty sure it will be just like Tegra 3 early days

regardless like i said lets not OT and discuss the S4

im just contemplating what is HTC trying to do here

did they suddenly decide to stop caring about the power game? i can't help but feel they should have lobbied for the s800 with qualcomm

super processors usually build a hype around a device on their own
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks for this, yea everyone seems to say you have to see it in person
[One (M7) General] Sharpi1:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I preordered mine today, I got to play with it for 20 min and I have to say, WOW. Its a new revolution, I never had the feel of such a phone, hardware and software are perfect! Really this is awesomeness. I really care in laggs and so on, but I never ever felt any little mikro lagg or something else while switching beetween so much functions. I cant wait no longer :eek: ... In 2 weeks it's mine! I will play with it the first weeks 24/7 :D I'm so happy! It's worth buying it, believe me. The sound is so BOOOOM, it's more than boom! It's so clear! Oh man.... I can tell you more but you guys should feel it yourself, I'm going back now with a very big smile on m face :) really!

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Yes, you say it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
indeed im speechless :eek:
[One (M7) General] steve1996:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Maybe they just can't keep up? Or bad timing of nvidia...
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
No.

However, there are exactly three reasons why I've ordered a One: the screen (especially the colour accuracy), the camera (especially performance in low light), and the speakers (which make for loud, clear notifications and, I hope, good in-call audio volume and quality - these are unusually important to me because I'm partially deaf). If the GS4 doesn't require me to compromise those three things, and has a larger screen of the same quality, and it's more powerful, has a memory card slot and a removable battery, and there are no major gotchas such as poor battery life.. then yes, why not?

That said, I'll be surprised if low-light camera performance is comparable.

I kind of hope the GS4 has another horribly over-saturated AMOLED display - if it does then I can ignore it and stop worrying. :)
[One (M7) General] shox22:
I think htc would have compete with Samsung in terms of specs if they could. But there was nothing to do. The S600 was/is the most powerfull chip avaible for them.

I´m not a gamer (on the pc, i am), but i still care for things like gpu. But my hope in the dev community is big. They will push the Adreno 320 to its limits.

If we forget about GPU, the One just cant be beaten by the S4. I had it in my hands... its perfect.

The one will win in:

-Design

-Haptics / Materials

-Display (if it will get the 1080p pentile amoled. The S3 i saw in the O2 store had quite a few burned-in letters.)

-Speaker (boomsound)

-Software (thats subjective, but touchwizz looks childish to me)

-Software updates (the s3 jb update... what a joke. But they were first with it! At least that!)

-Sound for headphones (if they use the same dac like in the dna)

-Camera functions (Zoe)

-LTE nearly everywhere (exynos 5 doesnt support lte?! not sure about it!)

Not sure about:

Camera
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes its probably Nvidia's fault, the entire Tegra roadmap is in delay....
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Why is this worrying? That's what companies should be doing. We don't utilise most of a phones power anyway. I'll take design and innovative, useful features over a uber-powerful gpu any day.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
except when you consider the 1080p display just set all android flagships a year back in terms of keeping up with iOS gaming

the GPU on the S4 is not revolutionary, its the same as the i5 with better polycount and agressive clocks but it has to push more then 2x the number of pixels

so it will be almost a match with the i5 in terms of native gaming performance

so this means, game developers will get even more lazy

porting their iOS games will be dead easy for the SGS4 which they consider will be the number one android population and has the same GPU, they will then compromise their games to run well on other SOCs

in a nutshell, its pretty clear to me samsung is aiming to win the gaming audience on the Android this round

problems, heat and throttling are very big worry on the s4, but no one will care as long as it owns the "intial" impressions

and can you just imagine the upcoming media hype for the s4?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
lots of smartphone users seems to forget how big mobile gaming is part of the equation, if you dont care good for you, just check the mega catalog of games on iOS to understand that you can not simply say "who cares for power, no one is using it anyway"

bottomline gaming on mobile devices is a big pie and a main contributor to iOS success

anyway with T4 incoming, huge success of the krait snapdragons, samsung's mega SOC/GPU switch and new 1080p adoption

Android gaming is about to get even more fragmented
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
If one is not excited for the One after watching that one will never be.:D
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Thats the last thing we need, the HOX should have been gaming gold but devs didn't give two-cents about it and sloppily ported games and optimized poorly for it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I have already posted my warnings about gaming on the HTC One

don't expect any better, Adreno 320 is just "enough" at this high density

there supposed to be an excellent CPU governor by qualcomm included (msm-dcvs as in the DNA) but it will require root if you want to use it manually

i still dont have information if the ondemand governor is still being used in default

but there is no doubt in my mind if you want the HTC One, be ready to put gaming out of your priorities list

if you are ok with that, then yes the HTC One is the very best Smartphone to buy this quarter

(ofcourse custom development will extract a lot more, so it will be very similar to the One X gaming story)

HTC One is day one root for me :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
besides if we get no reviews before the launch date? what did HTC gain by launching the device first?

most buyers are waiting for the reviews anyway and on the 15th it seems those reviews will be in combat with the SGS4

lets hope they lift them off before that date
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
As an iPhone owner I don't understand what this means. Anyone care to elaborate?
[One (M7) General] shox22:
We are still waiting for the 4.2.2 Update and the new driver. Maybe that will give us a huge boost in gpu performance (i dont think so, but who knows).

I remind you: the s600 s4 scored 41 fps in gl benchmark (4.2.1). That equals the onscreen fps of the ipad4 and ip5. As it runs the same soc, the one should be capable of doing the same. But we may need devs for that! (if its just the gpu clockspeed and not the ram that limits the performance.)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nothing to worry about :)

on android the storage is partitioned

a part of the usable storge is left for the "system" and apps you install called "internal" and the rest is left as a standalone storage partition which you can access freely by hooking it up to your PC

games and big apps can still install on the storage, you can also move many apps from the internal to storage

again nothing to worry about ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no no i have no doubt we can make it 41fps easily

i have never agreed with the RAM bandwith theory, i'm pretty sure it's either drivers or clocks

in both cases custom kernels will give us 41fps and beyond, the only problem is the super annoying kernel source release lag from HTC

but for those who thought "this time i will not root or waste my time optimizing my device" its still disappointing

i'm still hopeful for HTC to fix this from their end, they've always actively combated Samsung's benchmark numbers anyway :)

they know the OCTA is being used, so i'm pretty sure they are working double time with Qualcomm on this end, they will need to raise the benchmarks as high as they can (One X eventually crushed all of the SGS3 numbers and trailed the GPU slightly in pixels)
[One (M7) General] shox22:
If its just the driver, we wont need root for good gaming performance. I rly hope its just the driver. 41fps onscreen would be more then enough to run all the games.

There is one game i´am rly interested in: realracing 3. If this game runs smooth, i´ll be happy. If Gta3/VC also run smooth.... perfect.

As you are an expert: Is it possible to s-off a Snadragon X without unlocking it?
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hamdir, don't forget the One X+ is 64gb of unpartioned space, you can go app crazy with it. I see no reason why they would go back to the partioned drive for the One when they seem to want to attract Iphone users. The IPhone is also unpartioned.
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
Regarding the kernel releases and such...

isnt it good that its qualcomm at the core now and not Nvidia.. we will hopefuly see quicker releases of the kernel and so on,,,
[One (M7) General] LostGamer:
Waiting Eagely For It.. HTC UltraPixel is what i m looking forward to..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
already posted a video of it running on the DNA with some apparent lag

[YOUTUBE]uP-VcYVC3HY[/YOUTUBE]

DNA users confirmed the lag is from the on demand drivers and switching to the qualcomm supplied msm-dcvs governor ran it smoothly

the game is apparently running in either High or Xtra High mode (confirmed by the real time reflections)
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
Do htc put an oleophobic coating on their screens?

The coating on the iPhone 5 I have is especially good. It also helps that when its screen is off it is very black.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes the One X has is pretty much finger print resistant and very black when screen off
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
S-OFF will be lot easier,look at HTC DNA and Butterfly ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
nope Nvidia is pretty awesome with their drivers, they have a public repo constantly being updated for Tegra 3 and many side project like their optional CPU quiet driver with white papers and the loads

meanwhile Qualcomm is a lot more secretive and keep things to itself

qualcomm devices however are eaiser to SOFF

the delay for kernel source has to do with HTC plus some other propitiatory code that has to be pulled before release and nothing to do with qualcomm or nvidia's drivers
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
ooooh i didn't know mate thanks :good:

yes very probable
[One (M7) General] itsmemuffins:
Samsung is already showing a teaser trailer for the SG4 :eek:

htc cant compete with Samsung in marketing, Samsung's marketing budget is more than htc is worth as a whole I think.

If the phone is as good as we are hoping it is, they need to generate and garner fantastic word of mouth, it will be their only way I think.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Good for them, it's all about HTC here.
[One (M7) General] MarkFromLondon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Jealous?
[One (M7) General] Jahai:
HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thre

The iPhone is partitioned as well but different.
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Apart from gaming issues I still feel like this is going to be almost perfect software launch from HTC only power users like us will want to root :)

S600 seems like it will deliver great battery and Sense is light and snappy.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I think gaming will be just fine too.
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

This is similar to the One X+

There is always a protected system partion, then an unpartioned "user" area where anything (apps, app data, photos, video, music, downloads, files) can be installed.

The old HTC way was to also have a separate app partion. The One X plus did away with that. I could get more technical but the important thing is ......... there is no limit to the amount if apps you can install.

Edited for my poor grammer!
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Exactly for average user stock S600 performance should be more than enough, can't wait to read those reviews!

OT: Anybody taking bets on Samsung ripping of ZOE and introducing sPhoto on the 14th ?
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Maybe this was already posted but its usefull to make my point:

[YOUTUBE]19BtiLkncd0[/YOUTUBE]

"Engeneering and design comes together"

I dont see any other android OEM taking such atention and care about design details and at the same time feel in hand premium materials.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

And here's some kind of test of the optical image stabilization on the One compared to the Lumia920. Result? I get kind of seasick from both :).

http://ukmobilereview.com/manufacturers/m-htc/nokia-lumia-920-vs-htc-one-the-one-minute-ois-test/

Skickat från min Transformer TF101 via Tapatalk 2
[One (M7) General] luka-san:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Htc one video look great, for me more than enough :) :)
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
The old, wild west style thread may have been chaotic at times, but it was more entertaining, are a few off topic discussions really so bad?
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I have no doubt I'm buying the HTC One but IMO the 920 was far better. I got really surprised about the poll result (biased maybe?).

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] janarp:
HTC One video is better for my eyes... and quality is very good(for smartphone)

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i like off-topic sometimes... its fun to read.. LOL
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Form all the videos everyone has watched, how many times did you guys see the One lag at any point? Me, none.

Now watch this unboxing of the Xperia z that pocket now just posted and tell me how many times you see it lag. :) htc really did well.

http://youtu.be/HbjsIqk5xuM
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Trust me IF it was ready for their release date then they would of gone with the 800.... Fact is the 800 isn't ready and isn't set to be ready until mid year... So they are faced with 2 choices.... Release now and early with the 600, OR wait and release AFTER the sgs4 and miss a few months of sales... Tough choice for them to make in the end really...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC simply Implemented JB properly, both the One X and DNA performs the exact same in the UI, incredibly smooth with very few frame rate drops in the exact places, judging from their previous flagships I wouldn't worry, the old HTC lag is history ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Yea what to do mate, mods dislike OT and you can see what havoc the sgs4 benchs caused around here

We should have moved the old thread to general instead of splitting them

Anyway slight OT sgs4 got leaked today, super amoled 1080p

And if u have anything to tell us, go ahead just place an OT alert :)
[One (M7) General] worlddominatiin:
never was a big fan of HTC phones but when i saw the specs for the One, my jaw dropped.

i want this phone now.
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Blogger Jonathan Choo seems to have had the opportunity to try the One out for a longer period of time. Good review of the camera with lots of pics (also high res originals in his dropbox!). I think most of the pics look great. Nice to see some shots that aren´t from showrooms. But he also notes some weird blurring in the lower part of some images, just like in the polish review. Hopefully a glitch in pre-prod firmware. Here´s the url:

http://jonchoo.blogspot.se/2013/03/htc-one-camera-review-image-samples.html
[One (M7) General] shree.cse:
Don't know if some one already posted this. It have some details and better look of the silver one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBDBxJs-NI