yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Yes, that is exactly what I am telling you. It got stuck on the splash screen 3 times with twrp, but when I flashed cwr it worked first try. It shouldn't take any longer than normal to boot.

And I had fastboot enabled and it worked. It shouldn't affect anything.
[HTC Droid DNA] oppy:
Worked for me after installing a custom recovery (TWRP) and ROM (ViperXL). Not sure what the deal was, but everything else is a PITA with 1.14 hboot, so I'm gonna blame it on that.

Thanks for the great work, beaups and company!
[HTC Droid DNA] Shamrock13:
I've tried both, but neither are helping me get this set up. :(
[HTC Droid DNA] benbailey84:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

I can't wait!!! I'm gonna have to though. Working next two days then I will have plenty of time to tinker. I would hate to be up till 2 am trying to figure something out with adb. Lol seems like every time I try something adb always gives me problems.
[HTC Droid DNA] Shamrock13:
This is what happens after I run fastboot oem boot:

(bootloader) monarudo_vibrate_device_time(): vibrate 200(ms)...

(bootloader) Boot/Recovery signature checking...

(bootloader) TZ_HTC_SVC_HASH ret = 0

(bootloader) setup_tag addr=0x80600100 cmdline add=0x003147C8

(bootloader) TAG:Ramdisk OK

(bootloader) TAG:skuid 0x32401

(bootloader) TAG:hero panel = 0x94005B

(bootloader) TAG:engineerid = 0x0

(bootloader) TAG: PS ID = 0x0

(bootloader) TAG: Gyro ID = 0x1

(bootloader) [SD_ERR] The project does not support SD card

(bootloader) E0902910 E0902E20

FAILED (status read failed (No such file or directory))

finished. total time: 1.138s

Just hangs after that regardless of recovery.
[HTC Droid DNA] Epic 4g:
WOW Thank you so much! That did the trick! I went to Rom Manager downloaded the newest CWM Recovery & did everything STEP by STEP since I basically memorized it from the 40 times I did it before.

I guess TWRP is having some issues with helping people get S-OFF on the HTC Droid DNA huh?!?

Again thank you so much I am finally S-OFF on my beautiful 1080p, Qualcomm quad-core S4 Pro w/ 2GB of RAM BEAST of a sexy phone HTC Droid DNA.

BRING ON the ROMS we are one step closer to the AOSP ROMS.

Paranoid Android anyone?!? lol :D
[HTC Droid DNA] RLGL:
Are you running them one at a time?
[HTC Droid DNA] Flip35:
u guys are the best, just finished the process, s-off yeeeees, :laugh: thanx again
[HTC Droid DNA] idkwhothatis123:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

*sigh*
[HTC Droid DNA] Flip35:
quick question, if i need to flash the RUU to return back to stock from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2017525 can i still use that RUU since i ran some extra commands to get s-off i want to make sure i can still use that RUU
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Ummmmmmmm, see what they can do for you on the irc
[HTC Droid DNA] trickster2369:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

No, you're really not.

Sent from my Nexus 10
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
yes you can still use RUU and keep S-OFF i already asked the guys in IRC about this
[HTC Droid DNA] Shamrock13:
OK. Let me try.
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
the one linked in the OP
[HTC Droid DNA] jaysinsalot:
donation made!

Thank you all donation made in the name of beaups!
[HTC Droid DNA] MicroMod777:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

What radio does this install? I saw that in zip.
[HTC Droid DNA] Nowak4G:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Delete
[HTC Droid DNA] mgault:
Is there some where you can go to GET familiar with ADB???
[HTC Droid DNA] bmorrisj:
thanks for that. worked the first try..

ok what now
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Has anyone been successful with this using windows xp? Im helping a friend s-off his dna, but adb wont recognize the device for nothing. To test this, i tried adb commands "adb devices" and it will not recognize the the device. So its not one, but 2 windows xp machines, that are fu(kin with me! Any suggestions guys?

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[HTC Droid DNA] MicroMod777:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Turn off developer options, and turn back on, then uncheck usb debugging, then recheck.
[HTC Droid DNA] heavyweight80:
thank youo so much for your hard work and easy guide. I just have one question, when completed and phone rebooted I have no LTE connectivity. It will only stay on 3g with the newest flashable radio. just wondering if anyone else had this issue? thanks for any help

Brainfart at 2am. Just rebooted phone one more time and it was fine
[HTC Droid DNA] Cadillac Johnson:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Grab an old phone and play around a bit.

I use my TBolt as an mp3 player, alarm clock, and guinea pig.
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

No go

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[HTC Droid DNA] juhde:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

On a DNA. I tried and tried last night to get s-off, kept hanging at reboot. This morning I flashed the RUU, stock rooted ROM, still got no love.

Went to the IRC and beaups suggested changing my CID to 22222222. Still didn't work, left the CID there though. Switched from TWRP 2.3.3.0 to CWM 6.0.2.7. Still didn't work. Flashed CWM 6.0.2.8 and it worked right away. Don't get discouraged, it will work, just apparently the DNA is bipolar. What is working for some folks won't for others. Just keep trying different combos of recovery/ROM/kernel.
[HTC Droid DNA] Cadillac Johnson:
When you connect the phone does it install the drivers?

Does it even recognize it to transfer files?
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

No

This is y i figured it had to b driver related

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[HTC Droid DNA] android4temo:
I have tried flashing the Reddit Stealth several times in TWRP and CWM with no success. Not sure why but I am still getting the Normal white Splash Screen with the red writing at the bottom.

Any ideas?
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
You need to flash stock kernel and modules: http://d-h.st/Ma1

After flashing modules, wipe dalvik cache and cache

Boot into Android

Start at step 4.

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zound, come to IRC...I got u

http://chat.andirc.net:8080/

channel = droid-dna
[HTC Droid DNA] Cadillac Johnson:
delete
[HTC Droid DNA] RLKirk:
Mine was doing the same thing. Uninstall HTC Drivers and install latest HTC Sync that should fix your problem hopefully
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
If you have working Windows Update, just go in control panel and delete any HTC drivers. Ensure that phone is not on lockscreen and that USD debugging is turn on. Plug into PC and let Windows Update load the drivers for you (should be 5 or more)
[HTC Droid DNA] zounduser:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

I got him hooked up finally!!!

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[HTC Droid DNA] Ferradinho:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Worked great for me without a hitch. S-OFF on the first try. Running the latest Viper, Cubed 3.1.3, and CWM. Thanks for all the hard work!

Donating...
[HTC Droid DNA] slojko:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Is anyone working on a script? / batch file
[HTC Droid DNA] frostywinter:
at step 2 I get this error --

adb server is out of date. killing...

How do I solve this issue?

Tks
[HTC Droid DNA] MassStash:
My god. Amazing. Confirm one more on XL. ViperXL wrong id doesn't matter also confirm.
[HTC Droid DNA] juhde:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Update your android SDK.
[HTC Droid DNA] frostywinter:
I have r13 - I think that is the latest isnt it? I just downloaded it today..
[HTC Droid DNA] mike17855:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

What does this do?
[HTC Droid DNA] rainabba:
This should help

Better still!
[HTC Droid DNA] tfrank10:
LOL!
[HTC Droid DNA] bakemcbride21:
From a tech standpoint of does this solve anything to allow aosp to run... true.. but I thought I read somewhere that cm won't even try to support a device that isn't s off... so in theory it does and hence the op is right but probably not for the reasons they intended lol

obviously I'm not saying cm will support this phone but at least it would now be up for consideration.
[HTC Droid DNA] EmericanX:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Did you run the "fastboot flash zip" command twice?

If you're getting error 99 try booting into recovery and simply doing a data/cache wipe "factory reset"... I think the reason some are getting hung on the splash screen is your data partition becomes corrupt. My first attempt led me to the same place.. except mine would fully boot then freeze at the lock screen! I rebooted to recovery, wiped, then started the process over. This time I ended up with error 92"the error you want to see". Only run the flash zip command once then proceed to the next step.

Btw: I know the data is corrupt because during the process of being frozen I made a backup... Once s-off I restored that backup which on reboot froze on the lock screen! So for error 99 folks.... Wipe data! I'm also on cwr(non-touch).
[HTC Droid DNA] jcfitz:
I have SC Hatka 3.0.0 Build 2, based off the Update before I tried this, did this method, had CID 111111111, and now have S-Off with a ROM based off the OTA. I can confirm that this method does work for the people who did the original unlock bootloader methods. S-Off rocks!
[HTC Droid DNA] johnminator:
yessssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YEssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
[HTC Droid DNA] GreginNH:
FINALLY!!!!

**Deep Breath**

OK, so I had the white screen with the red lettering freeze up yesterday, fastboot oem boot kept spitting up a "Failed : unkown error"

I tried EVERYTHING.

CWM, 3 different versions, 2 different TWRP's. I went on irc chat for advice and tried setting 22222222 via writecid, nothing.

I tried 2 laptops 6 different USB ports and still nothing.

So, I took beaups advice and re-locked (fastboot oem lock) and then flashed the RUU that is floating around to get back to stock everything.

Once that completed I unlocked again (had to get a new bin file from HTC, the original one did not work) but the new one did.

Then I took the VZ OTA (the new update) and let that finish.

Once that was done I flashed TWRP in fastboot and then flashed Superuser in recovery.

Got the phone rooted and running like I wanted. Then went through this process this morning after charging overnight (and besides, my head was ready to explode last night, lol) and on the first try this morning I got S-off!!

Dont know if anyone else tried what I just did but like I said I tried every damn thing yesterday and nothing worked, this method did for me.

Thanks to the Dev team for getting this out there and for all the help and support from everyone
[HTC Droid DNA] justin lamantia:
While tring to reinstall the drivers a window pops up saying can't copy """"""" wdfCoInstaller01007.sol""""""" but installs the rest of the drivers fine but after fastboot flash zip PL8320000.zip come up with """"error 99""""" I'm clueless??????
[HTC Droid DNA] Epic 4g:
I hope you realize that was a joke right? MY "CAPS" were not obvious enough?!? lol

*sigh* :eek:

I just want to take an opportunity to thank EVERYONE who was involved in making this a reality to all of us. The HTC Droid DNA came out Oct. 21st of 2012 & in just under 4 months we have S-OFF achieved. Just incredible!!! This is proof of the diligence & hard work of the people who were able to get this to work not just on the HTC Droid DNA, but also the HTC One XL & One S.

Kudos to the excellent work & you ALL should be proud of your achievement.

Again Thank you!!! :cool:
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Did you read the OP? THERE IS TO BE NO .bat/scripts TO BE MADE

Either follow the easy steps or don't do it at all that is final

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Your original problem was that when you flashed the p8300000-dna zip the first time you got error 92 (which is what you wanted) then you flashed it again and got error 99 (which is what you don't want) your not supposed to flash it twice

Try restoring a nandroid that's how I fixed it
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
Go into xxxxx...\adt-bundle-windows-x86\sdk\tools and copy AdbWinApi.dll and AdbWinUsbApi.dll into your adb.exe directory.
[HTC Droid DNA] zoltrix:
Worked flawlessly on my One X - hardest part was getting SuperCID lol (just dd'd and used a hexeditor)

This is fantastic - Thanks!

time to make some new hboot partitions!!
[HTC Droid DNA] docnok63:
1) If you have working Windows Update, just go in control panel and delete any HTC drivers. Ensure that phone is not on lockscreen and that USD debugging is turn on. Plug into PC and let Windows Update load the drivers for you (should be 5 or more)

2) Go into xxxxx...\adt-bundle-windows-x86\sdk\tools and copy AdbWinApi.dll and AdbWinUsbApi.dll into your adb.exe directory.

3) You need to flash stock kernel and modules: http://d-h.st/Ma1

After flashing modules, wipe dalvik cache and cache

Boot into Android

Start at step 4.
[HTC Droid DNA] Rafy186:
Do you have the stock recovery image handy. I've searched for it and have not found it yet.
[HTC Droid DNA] kraziekc:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Yes

https://www.dropbox.com/s/6n7w1pfse8ztcs6/dnastock.recovery.img

from fastboot:

Fastboot flash recovery dnastock.recovery.img

credit of the file from beanup
[HTC Droid DNA] BFirebird101:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

So does anybody know what this method actually did, and how it works? I'm curious

Sent from my Vipered DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] Calkulin:
Just an FYI, I tried about 15 times to get this to work on a stock IC ROM with no luck but once I tried a stock JB ROM it worked on the first try. Also if you get segmentation fault while running the soffbin3 binary, then flash a stock unmodded kernel and try again
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
I have no USB 2.0's in my household only 3.0's, is this S-OFF method completely useless for me? or is there still hope it can work?
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

I did mine via USB 3. Make sure your motherboard's chipset and USB 3 drivers are up to date.

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
Just like X-Factor exploit, this is not working at all, I can't even check the modelid, I can't even use the simple command to reboot into fastboot, why is this? no commands do anything and the command prompt window freezes.

However when I am already in Fastboot, I can flash boot.img's just fine when installing Roms, but when I'm in Android adb seems like it just won't work, I know I can manually get into fastboot, but what's the point if this method wants you back in Android for 3 more commands.
[HTC Droid DNA] jasoraso:
Sounds like your ADB drivers aren't working, but fastboot drivers are? If you can get the fastboot to work properly, I've seen reports of people doing the steps that are done while booted into android either via wireless adb or on the phone directly in terminal.

Edit: but I don't know what risks there might be in attempting to do it that way. Seems like it might be easier to go find a laptop/desktop w/ a usb2.0 port that you can borrow for 10 minutes
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
I might want to avoid risks but yet I do remember the S-OFF method on Inspire 4G required typing commands into the Android Terminal, I might do that, not sure yet.

I do have a question though, when I reboot RUU, if for any reasons it gets stuck I can reboot system by power and vol down correct?

UPDATE: I just realized that won't work to well because of the soffbin3 file
[HTC Droid DNA] Rafy186:
Thanks a million for your help. After two days of trying your guide definitely helped. I did you step by step and everything worked perfectly. Anyone having issues getting stuck in HTC white splash screen should definitely try this. Whenever he says he tried and didn't work in the guide believe him, because I tried to cut steps numerous times but it wouldn't work, so I continued.

Time to donate!
[HTC Droid DNA] Edward Zhuang:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

When I typed the code and entered it, it always gave me a message of adb server is out of date killing... Anyone have the solution to it?
[HTC Droid DNA] remag6383:
Finally Soff, took me about an hr. Viper 1.1.3,LK 0.9.5 cwr 6.0.2.8. received error99 numerous times, just kept switching recoveries and it finally took within an hr, just cache and dc wipe each time. :cool:

major thx to all
[HTC Droid DNA] kraziekc:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Make sure HTC sync is not on in your taskbar as well as any other sync to the phone.
[HTC Droid DNA] NSammut:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

I'm a bit confused on the supervisor requirement, I did the old method of rooting and unlocking, am I good to do this?
[HTC Droid DNA] [TSON]:
Worked like a charm for me.

DNA on Viper 1.1.3 w/ newest Cubed.
[HTC Droid DNA] tgerbracht:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Most problems come from not having adb and the proper drivers installed correctly. The actual process is very simple and doesn't seem to have many ways for it to go haywire. I read a guide to install adb and chatted with the people on the irc channel to get through the driver issue.

I imagine that most people who unlocked their phones using the old way and who have ADB properly installed flew right through this process.
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
Not to be a noob, but where are these IRC chat channels you speak of? can you send me a link so I too can speak with some helpers?
[HTC Droid DNA] del9800:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Device manager you will see android usb devices/my HTC. If you see a yell yield symbol right click and update drivers. Hope this works for u.

Sent from my HTC6435LVW using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[HTC Droid DNA] iOSh8er:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

There is a link in the OP, under the donation links.

Please don't touch my "Thanks" button, it doesn't like you... ;)
[HTC Droid DNA] riot1031:
OK, this might be totally noobish, but I just want to be sure. I haven't taken the OTA yet (and don't want to until kernels are updated). Can I take a nandroid backup, RUU back to stock, S-OFF, and then restore my nandroid backup? Thanks!
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
Yes just make sure to copy it to your pc because the RUU will wipe the phone clean

If you follow my guide in my sig just dont do step 4 it will walk you through it
[HTC Droid DNA] spjoneser:
Can I uninstall supercid once s-off has been achieved?
[HTC Droid DNA] riot1031:
Thanks, appreciate the help!
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
yea you dont need to keep the app on your phone after you run it... if it worked and you have all 22222222 as your cid

fastboot oem readcid

then you can get rid of it and you wont need it ever again
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
my adb will not work what so ever, but fastboot will, is it possible to do this all in fastboot? or not?
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
FWIW, I had seen somebody else with a similar issue get fixed by uninstalling and then reinstalling the HTC drivers.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

You don't need to ruu back to stock.
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
HTC has removed the HTC Sync manager download?? :/

http://www.htc.com/us/support/news.aspx?p_id=464&p_name=htc-one™-x-(att)

UPDATE: Nevermind I got it
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
well i was assuming his question was after he RUU'd if he could restore his backup and I said yes... He opted to RUU I didnt suggest he do that but I did tell him if he wanted to I made a guide for it...
[HTC Droid DNA] riot1031:
I've tried everything else, changed recoveries, kernels, etc. I keep getting stuck at the white HTC screen. Using the RUU and going back to stock is the only thing I haven't tried.

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Nope, still there:

http://www.htc.com/www/software/htc-sync-manager/download/
[HTC Droid DNA] Memnoch73:
You need to boot into the Rom. Uncheck and then re-check USB debugging. ADB will then be recognized
[HTC Droid DNA] swimminsurfer256:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

Or all 1s works too I believe. That's what mine read and s-off worked. You just dont want it to say VZW_something I think
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
Yes I understand this tip, it does not work for me, adb never works for me even when I tried x-factor exploit
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
are you sure you got it installed correctly? do you have your PATH setup right? are you using USB 2.0 or 3.0 ? have you installed the HTC drivers?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

In what way does it not work?
[HTC Droid DNA] stillthisguy:
So, I am doing this for a friend after having done it for myself and his phone lists the device under adb devices when it is booted, but when in bootloader it no longer lists the device. In device manager it does list the device though, and I have already removed and installed the drivers again. Any suggestions?
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
you did use fastboot and not adb right? or use a different usb port
[HTC Droid DNA] stillthisguy:
Yeah, n/m. Brain drain today. It is working fine for me. Everything I just typed that you replied to is fake. I feel so ashamed.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Re: [S-Off] Facepalm S-Off for HTC Devices One S, One XL, Droid DNA

In bootloader you can't use adb, only fastboot. Do "fastboot devices" and see if it shows up.
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
ive done it before too... let us know if you get any other issues more than glad to help
[HTC Droid DNA] Viper4713:
HTC latest Drivers installed, Java installed, Windows 8(says it works now), USB 3.0, and 1 USB 2.0.... I have tried USB 2.0.

I cd to directory where adb is of course in the SDK, in Android.... the adb commands do not work, I enter a command even like "adb reboot bootloader" it will not even do that, it does nothing, it says demon started successfully after about 3 minutes of waiting and then an error happens like 4 minutes after that, in all this process command prompt will not let me close or anything.

But in Fastboot, it works just fine, flashing boot.img's and recoveries and everything
[HTC Droid DNA] justin lamantia:
So I've tried to go back to stock and flash an RUU but the RUU that I downloaded was in a exe format not a zip and it would not work I right click it as adm. And still got an error. Does nobody have the RUU in a ZIP format???
[HTC Droid DNA] stillthisguy:
Facepalm is the most perfect title for this thread! Bigandrewgold that is exactly what was happening, mostly me not thinking straight. Thanks for the help guys!
[HTC Droid DNA] .torrented:
what error?
[HTC Droid DNA] tlgem:
Holy **** got it first shot :cool:

Thanks all involved
[HTC Droid DNA] a box of kittens:
Your s off? Right? If not relock than run the ruu if you're s off umm ask Torrented:p