yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
screen:

The Xperia is clearly not doing good in blacks and view angles, HTC One X is a little brighter though, HTC must have reduced it in order to reduce battery hit, also blacks a little better on the One X

as for the video comparison:

the Xperia Z and the One are head to head in the first scene, the One a little brighter, the second scene HTC One which is darker is dropping fps, the rest of the darker scenes we also loose frames, you can always improve fps on HTC phones during low light by reducing exposure but in my opinion the Xperia Z wins in low light video recording, its performing impressively, we can also see judders on the One im guessing due to OIS, only negative on the Z is the continious focus change (you can lock focus on the One)
[One (M7) General] tHoMaS-1:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yeah!!!

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-launch-march-four-markets-april-rest-173244/

The US, UK, Taiwan and Germany are thought to be part of the release’s phase one, meaning that if you reside in one of those countries you should find the attractive new 4.7-incher in stores as soon as next week.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Good to hear US :) I hope the developer edition is out soon
[One (M7) General] tHoMaS-1:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Even better to hear Germany :rolleyes:

Hope to get an unbranded unit this week... :D
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Good to hear!

Here the HTC phones come from black market so any of UK,Germany or Taiwan can be a stock source for us :fingers-crossed:

Anyway phase 2 is for mid-april and phase 3 en april?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
@ Hamdir , you're wrong bro , but not entirely , i do agree HTC One Vs Xperia Z are similar in FHD recording , but did you see how HTC One compares to Xperia Z when HTC Uses HDR FHD recording ? I assume you have but you can see VERY BEST results here , and on this video HTC One entirely RAPED xperia Z in every aspect when we look at HTC One HDR vs Xperia Z HDR. It's 200% better on ONE. The only *Issue* i saw on one with HDR is when switching between the light scenes it picks a little bit too much light.

Anyway on this video look at HTC One vs Xperia Z after 2:50 , you'll see that HTC One video looks like it's recorded in sunny day 3pm while on xperia Z you'll see it's being recorded at 7PM before the sun goes down.

[YOUTUBE]wPD_z93nG5I[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]wPD_z93nG5I[/YOUTUBE]

I was talking about low light specifically and yes it was reported in reviews HDR is barely doing anything on the Z
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Game ON, HTC:

Talk of the Day -- HTC One pre-orders exceed target (...)
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
DAmn lol you replayed so fast i barely had chance to edit ! :P

Anyway i dare to say HTC One HDR recording is by far margins THE BEST then ANY currently avilable device ( yes including s4 )

Edit:

Regarding xperia Z FHD HDR recording it looks to me like it doesn't even work :confsued:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
I suggest to everyone keep the s4 out of any discussions (besides the analytic)

seems there is an inferiority complex epidemic and we better keep it out ;)
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

That's great to know!

That photo of silver is gorgeous!
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Agreed :good: , regarding processor or more likely the whole s4/m7 hardware comparison this is what i think about that:

S600 versions:

​

CPU & GPU - Since they're the same what will matter at the end is which OEM optimises it BETTER,

that will prevail here,

also take a look at HTC One antutu , it's scoring up to 25000 with 1.7ghz clock , while s4 scores 20000-25000 as well with 1900 clocks. + we know for a FACT 4.2.2 boosts performance , so we can expect even more from HTC One when it gets 4.2.2

As for octa chip this is what i assume/expect/predict?: ( yes sorry i know i shouldn't be comparing this but i think we should )​

- We know it has more powerful GPU and CPU , but we also know it has terminal issues and throttling alot , which is why they downclocked it from original 1.8ghz on a15 CPU to 1.6ghz at 1st then again downclocked it even further to 1.2ghz , and in the meantime A7 Cpu got Overclocked to 1.6 GHZ.

So if terminal issue is very present and 100% there they wont be able to use OCTA potential at all so s600 s4 will be better overall experience.

But i guess we still need to see proper tests on OCTA Chip.

But as a *conclusion* I think OCTA will fail , it's nearly impossible to use OCTA Chip at it's full power with sucha small device as S4 , if it was big as ipod4 or had large battery as ipod4 it could be *do-able* this way i think OCTA is pure marketing trick , but on a positive note it MIGHT / SHOULD give better battery life then s600 thx to a7 CPU.

+gaming if it's overheating will not only lag/throttle it will also BURN the battery in less then 2:30hrs of gameplay , while iexpect s600 to deliver around 3+

As for gaming i vote for s600 to perform much better since heeting wont be an issue nor throttling.

Anyway just my bare opinion :P
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
I'm afraid I have to correct you: this option is also missing in the retail version of the UK software. It was present in version 1.26 (pre-release) but 1.27 (German O2) and 1.28 (UK retail) both lack it. I would be surprised if it's (officially) reintroduced at this point.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Shan we agreed on keeping this out ;)

its too early to judge it yet, but i would assume a life story similar to our Tegra 3, if exynos documentation and sources are indeed troubled, make this is a harder life story

as for s600 did you miss this?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=39260717&postcount=184

@Shasarak on the One X it was introduced by popular demand
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
News Report:

....No Comments :laugh:

---------- Post added at 10:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:10 PM ----------

I have update too, seem like the option was missing too after recent Taiwan units' OTA.

Headache..

---------- Post added at 10:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:13 PM ----------

Anyone?
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yeh i'm quiting comparing them for now :P

@that video, yes i saw it and i was HAPPY :P , i just moded my MC4 with your MOD for max details , looks same as on m7 but no way in hell it's playable, too much stuttering/fps drops. But details are BEAUTIFUL.

can't wait for 4.2.2 on m7 , should be even better + root + custom roms + kernels AWGH i can't wait for my m7 to arrive >.< , 1st thing i'll do is root lol :P There are already few custom roms for m7 , unbelievable, the device isn't even officially out for everyone.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
slowly but surely we are picking up "fun" again on this thread ;)
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
also a heads up some of the major players from the Galaxy phones will not be developing anymore for the phone due to the big mess that Exynos is and the non support from Samsung in general:D
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
blasphemy ;)
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
:D

anyways hamdir mate getting my ipad mate this week finally:victory::victory:

getting my nexus 4 as well hopefully Monday..(i know i know) and then that is me done for gadgets this year..will still be keeping an eye in this thread and the other one as you sir are a great guy and love the info on this thread
[One (M7) General] dilster97:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

The HTC One will come with JB 4.1.2 upgradable to JB 4.2.

The current HTC One X will probably get JB 4.1.2 or maybe JB 4.2 with sense 5.

HTC One X Viper X 3.3.8(Variant 1 CPU)

XM-#252

Backup: O2 XDA IIs WM 2003 SE 4.21
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
I think One S and X should get 4.2, I mean they'll get Sense 5 anyway, why wouldn't they get 4.2

And another question, anyone know why HTC didn't put 4.2 with HTC One? I was kinda shocked when I learned it has 4.1.2, I thought it'll come with 4.2
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
already discussed, HTC doesn't want many bugs on launch
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
i honestly feel that this year there will not be as many issues as last year with the One X
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

There appears to be a bug for me on 1.27.

I can't enable beats audio via settings or any setting inside the music app.
[One (M7) General] Dharkan:
Oh and I finally made my pre-order on HTC One! Decided to get Silver. And it was cheaper than I was hoping for, so that was a win-win situation for me. :)

Going to get it on april, though. :(

btw, great to see you're back hamdir :)
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
News Again:-

That writer use HTC Zoe live photo album in chinese.. So, is it Zoe present on the Camera? ..may be I'm too skeptical on picking phrases.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Yeah, let's just hope sammy fanboys wont jump on us again. Tho some of them *copied* your thread , but i doubt it'll be so good and informative as yours :good:

Let's hope also new HTC users will know to appreciate your time and work here same as we do on One X forums.

Seen that as well :P , mainly CM roms devs are quiting on Samsung, so they're either getting htc one or Xperia z :cyclops::victory:

on a side note i'm so exited about One , by the time i get my preordered one there will be sh1t load of roms / kernels etc, lets also hope kozmi,trip,Xmister,Neo,franco,Faux, join HTC One family :angel::fingers-crossed:

Them new camera mods and sound mods AWWW CAN"T WAIT ! >.< , lol i was even thinking to fly to germany and get me HTC One from there ASAP >.> , i'm sure i'll have to wait till april 20% till one arives but most likely may >.<. And im gonna miss all the starting fun >.< DAMNET !

Edit:

Btw imagine this. my htc one x with xloud mod gets around 30% louder speakers, if speakers of HTC One are 93-95DB with Xloud that will be 125DB :eek: :eek:
[One (M7) General] paorpas:
adreno 320 > 544mp3 :)

http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
We already know the power of both chipsets , what we don't know for 100% is can you even use 544mp3 GPU at fullest.

This post is useless no offense.

Read thru pages you'll see more clearly.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this table assumes 500mhz for Adreno 320 which is not the case on the HTC One at least, might be the clock on the SGS4

it also assumes 533mhz for the 544MP3 which we also don't know if final (samsung already failed its target clocks for the CPU (1.8>1.6 or even worse 1.2)

finally even at those clocks, its a match and not ">"

@shan im aware of the thread, so called information thread starts by a misinformed title "8 core monster"
[One (M7) General] stephen2282:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Can anyone clear me up on the DDR2 vs DDR3 thing? HTC One retail is confirmed with DDR2 right? Does the GL benchmark differ much on the retail device?
[One (M7) General] Tecardo:
it won't work with distortion
[One (M7) General] shiningarmor:
its ddr3
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
PC Advisor: New HTC One review - fastest smartphone offers superb build quality 4.5 stars

this makes me wonder a little, is it possible that HTC have multiple sources for its camera? and hence different results?
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Will the euro lte gsm version support T-Mobile USA lte?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the mighty digital foundry fails to make the difference between 544MP3 and 554MP4..sigh what a mess of an article

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-samsung-galaxy-s4-spec-analysis
[One (M7) General] DynamicRam:
Sorry for being OT but i respect this guy soo much and here is his take on the Octa
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
It's a Frankenstein chip no doubts about it, there just so many challenges way beyond the life span of the device

sadly no one will realize it until a year later, when they can't wait to get rid of thing

we will see, Nvidia managed to pull it off with tegra 3 and i think samsung will, the mobile space is just too messy / temporary for anyone to notice or to care
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
http://www.intomobile.com/reviews/htc-one-review-2/
[One (M7) General] huxley309:
No both continents use different frequencies for lte.
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
huh~ hamdir lazy to correct you but its ddr2, its snapdragon 600 who offer support of ddr3.. you both might wanna search this thread to learn..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
indeed im getting tired and lazy...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
and the conclusion
[One (M7) General] biohaufen:
Littlebit of OT:

I want to see an AMD Temash (5W TDP) Smartphone ^^ But it is a x86 SoC and not ARM.

@Topic:

I think that we will benefit of the S600 in the Galaxy S4, because many of the mobile Game publisher optimize there games for the Galaxy S devices.
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Urghhhh.. Who else dare for not support/optimized qualcomm silicon, it was never the case. Qualcomm already shadow the Mobile Industry for years

---------- Post added at 03:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:58 AM ----------

I afraid Nvidia tegra 4 will be ahead of the s800. Certainty, those 4k output won't be used directly on mobile devices but suitable to tv output. There are only few extreme expensive 4k tv available, though.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Pocket Now: Here’s Why You Should Get the HTC One

the black looks divine :S
[One (M7) General] VeixES:
Some fancy marketing video produced for HTC One https://vimeo.com/62061452
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
Thank you so much.

Just one more thing, do you have any details to what the European version of the HTC One's frequencies and what T-Mobile USA LTE frequency?

Yes I am a noob
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
awesome finally a full quality version of this video
[One (M7) General] Nokiacrazi:
I think I've decided to sack getting a contract...

Have to have the black version...means SIM free :D
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
Guys i saw in hands-on videos you can map and hide icons in your menu, does this include bloatware?
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
can i change my vote from YES to MAYBE?
[One (M7) General] nk7600:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

After reading A LOT of the One, I just can't make my mind up as to wheather I should take the plunge?. Looking at the Tegra 4 & currently using a crappy LG Optimus 2X which has a Tegra 2 and had it over 2 years.. I promised myself I would NEVER buy Tegra again or even a LG due to the non updates and crap of Tegra but from a Technical stand point.

As someone that is currently looking for a upgrade for the next big thing for gaming.. Am just unsure if the HTC One is the one atm???. Any purchase I make will be on a contract, so it has to be one that gets supported & gives me the most out of a device for 2 years plus. Yes, I expect people may say go for a Nexus 4 but... Should I just go for the HTC One or... Wait for the S800 handsets to come through or even the Tegra 4?. After looking at GFLOP's Tegra 4 smashes S600 but as of yet, (I may be wrong?) but there are no details on the GPU for the S800????.

Yes, there is always going to be the next big thing but as someone that has there own house, bills to pay, partner & car.. Is the HTC One the time to take a chance for a 24 month contract???.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no, but dont worry swap it with mine :)

i have voted maybe and i wanted a yes, so we are even :laugh:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
i hear you, you can wait till mid year, new devices will appear, including HTC One refresh (if), nexus, moto and where Tegra 4 is heading

dont expect a healthy "keeper" trouble free phone from Tegra 4 though, Tegra 4i however is good for phone

actually the gaming videos and the Gflops helped me make my mind, 4.25x T3@520mhz that's close to Tegra 4 proclaimed 6x no? i'm over simplifying i know

but i think the key here is for T4i benchmarks to appear and not Tegra 4 (i wouldnt touch this chipset outside a tablet)

like i said in another thread, im getting tired of experiments on a phone

T3 was a successful experiment still, OCTA is definitely sounds like an experiment, snapdragon 600 elegant able and assured
[One (M7) General] CreepyDroid:
Hamdir please stop posting such images. If you keep doing this I won't be able to resist and I'll end up buying the One. :crying:
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
great video! cant wait to see it on TV
[One (M7) General] CraigP17:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Oh thanks. I'll sleep better knowing I haven't skewed the results lol
[One (M7) General] Uncledeewz:
PocketNow video, Htc One vs Galaxy s3:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-2-erTCPwo

The screen on One is amazing! Can't wait to get the black one whenever it arrives in Norway:D
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
I think the biggest mistake of tegra was it never really suite for a phone but a tablet. Nvidia still rather new in the mobile industry, as we can see tegra 2 was thier big learning curves. Then come the tegra 3 who seems like a monster hardware, I reckon that Nvidia and HTC kernel devs spent up nearly a year (Yes, till now) to tame it. Look at how it be when it first released on One X.

No doubt Tegra 4 is a monster, but will it be suite on a phone again? There are rumors that spills out Nvidia having hardtime to recruits it on a phone. I know Nvidia had showcasing the power consumptions and horse powers on MWC but I doubt it.

Buying a tegra on a tablet for myself, Maybe.

Buying a tegra on a phone for myself, Absolutely No.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
not sure where you are based, but for the record, in the UK you can get a free HTC one on an 18 month contract which (with some cashback) works out at a total of £434 over 18 months

certainly not an expensive deal as flagships go
[One (M7) General] huxley309:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

No worries, here are the worldwide lte frequencies.

After a quick nose, I'm now not so sure.

I'm with three which use 800mhz for dc-hspa and lte when it's brought in.

The LTE standard can be used with many different frequency bands. In North America, 700/800 and 1700/1900 MHz are used; 2500 MHz in South America; 800, 900, 1800, 2600 MHz in Europe; 1800 and 2600 MHz in Asia; and 1800 MHz in Australia. [31][32][33][34][35][36] As a result, phones from one country may not work in other countries. Users will need a multi-band capable phone for roaming internationally.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
@ Hamdir and everyone else who are crazy about our HoX Gaming take a look on this ! We finally i can say have PERFECT Gaming kernel! (sense) Read my review
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

@hamdir

Governors on stock kernel.
[One (M7) General] DeSaint2:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Thx Jonas been wondering about the msm governor. Anything else interesting? (Assuming you have it in hand) how does it feel in the hand? I have the i4g so slight upgrade in size. How about the sound? I hate the loudspeaker on my phone lol

Tohrment the Lesser slayer
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I will post my review tomorrow or in the next few days.

One thing is clear, it is great and feels really premium. + it's really thin and you don't expect it to be that powerful. Didn't find any lag yet..good night :)
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hardly news there.... Been known that the 800 was to be in devices by mid year...
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
jonas2295 can you help me with this:-

Anyone here have a HTC One with stock ROM here?

Minds to provides me some info?

Do the smartsync still turning off data/wifi 20mins after screen off between 0000-0700?

If yes, can you help me test something. I might have a solution for stock user..

Urghh, seems like you already unlocked..
[One (M7) General] ipmanwck:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

My only concern about this phome is camera. Wanna buy it so can anyone please advise if it beats Iphone ans gs3 camera in day shots. Lack of detail is concerning me :( I have looked at all reviews so far.

Custom Stock Rom v4.1 Eternity

Brilliantly Stock
[One (M7) General] HoosierInFL:
Damn, the black looks nice. I was dead set on the silver one, but these are the best pics of the black that I've seen, and I love it.
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
:D
[One (M7) General] voltron2k11:
Fact is, both silver and black look fantastic!

You can tell the silver one is metal by looking at it from a distance, the black one still feels and looks like a metal phone :D however from further back it could be mistaken by someone who doesn't know the one for some sort of plastic... or something else ^^

I've had a dark phone (DHD) so I am going with the silver one now for a change + less finger prints and stuff :D

.. or I could just buy a second one ... yeah I think that is the only solution to this problem haha :D

* cough* with samsung it's easy .. both are ugly, so you shouldn't buy either of them ;)
[One (M7) General] gelo01:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Looks elegant yet sexy to me. Sexier than my One S. :D;)
[One (M7) General] Livebyte:
I almost eated that thing thinking it was dark chocolate.

So divine and delicious.

Oops :D
[One (M7) General] luuranko3:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Cancelled galaxy s4 pre order...and ordered insted that sexy HTC one black
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Waw no Interactive! But msm-dcvs should be best for games, can you switch without root?
[One (M7) General] Hcore:
I have a question. I've got an offer to receive the HTC One that is supposed to be a demo, for the mobile phone operators/developers. Is there any difference between a demo phone and a regular phone?

The thing with this is that the phone comes without warranty. Is it worth it? Maybe I should get insurance for that phone instead?

Or should I just wait to mid-april?
[One (M7) General] glen.ricky:
Dunno about warranty, you can ask the seller though. And if youre lucky maybe you will have s-off on that demo phone
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
No real difference, it has CID 111111 and S-OFF.
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

I am already rooted :) you shouldn't be able to switch it without root
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
thanks, you forgot your first home work mate :D comparing it to the screen of the One X in terms of brightness and colors
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC HTC One sales record success continued to accelerate expansion
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]_h90iGXam0A[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Haha no I already made a comparison :) didn't upload yet.. But the comparison is pictured with a ipad sry :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]elAJEC0Q_To[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]-Uhw7SSAaC8[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no but what do you think, im ask about opinion and not pictures, is it less bright and blueish?
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

It's brighter in my opinion but still well balanced.

Colours are same on both when viewing a 720p picture.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
oh brighter than the One X? although everyone is reporting its less

blacks and view angles?