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[One (M7) General] DJ1994:
I get the crowd I'm about to post this to, but has anyone thought of how amazing through processors of the current gen phones are? If performance is you issue anything from the exynos quad in the sgs3 and even the duel core s4 snapdragon should be plenty of power. The octa will be fun to talk about and will probably be quite powerful, by the way any time the phone idles is when you would save power there, as well as for simple things like texting or listening to music. The 600 and 800 will both be very powerful and will benchmark with incredible numbers. In reality how big a difference will be noticed will be left to the types of animations chosen. I think we are at the point where the power of the processor is well outpacing what can be developed for mobile. That is just my opinion. Btw I do expect devices with the snapdragon to benchmark higher as qualcom seems to have done something with the krait cores that benchmarks like. My evo lte outscored my note 2 in quadrant.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
The concept is to have two fully capable SoC's available that can run either independently or together. Based on workload, instructions are directed to or moved so they are executed on the most appropriate of the two SoCs. High demand gaming would theoretically light up all four A15 cores. Internet browsing and light app use could use from 1 to all 4 of the A7 cores to save energy. If a browsing session was using 2 A7 cores and you suddenly fired up a 1080P flash video the theory is that, because the A7 and A15 cores are identically architected, the workload would be passed from A7 to A15 in micro-seconds. Here's a chart showing the projected battery saving.
[One (M7) General] panflute:
When I bought my present phone, Atrix 4G, it was ahead of the pack just like the One is, so it seems the right phone at the right time. I am getting it for the hardware not the software. HTC says it will be their only flagship this year so it will probably get the next version of Android. Like the Nexus 7 the HTC will be good for a couple of years. Fast processor, metal housing, 1080p screen, stereo front speakers, 64 gb of storage, all make this an exceptional device. Hardware issues? Possibly but HTC has everything riding on this so they should do it right. Let's not forget DLNA and IR remote. Too bad there is no FM radio tuner. Anyway it seems like I will be very happy with the One and cannot lose with my choice. I can't wait to port over my setup.... It will fly

Http://onlinedivorceclass.net/s9.jpg

Considering the 2 gigs of available ram :)

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[One (M7) General] Riyal:
the algorithm is still doubtful for me for android. I do have an SGS3 on my cousin and I sometimes borrow it on him. Looking at the cpu monitoring exynos quad tends to peak all 4cores at max frequency on even just loading web pages. So I guess we all should have to wait for the actual tests to see how the threshold handles things out. And also constant scaling of frequencies within the same core already eats alot of battery I can't imagine how it would eat power by scaling between different cores.

If a 4+4 processor was the best solution for energy saving I'm sure intel could have already implemented this technology on the past.

Those charts are base of direct processor tests that is not real life tests with android OS where java is in the game and it's a VM.

Also by considering what you said I guess octa core isn't really for me as almost half of my phone's lifetime I just do video streaming and doing local videoplayback on it. Others are just web browsing and texting/calling.
[One (M7) General] quarlow:
But, when they said the same exact thing this year, they promise they mean it this time.

Sent from my Note ][
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
This isn't Exynos Quad and it isn't like any other design currently on the market so comparisons are useless. Krait 300/400 are both evolutions of existing ARM design that Qualcomm's licensed and then tweaked. Everyone keeps talking about the "S-800." The majority of performance/efficiency improvement between Krait 300/400 (S-600/800) has nothing to do with design and everything to do with using a 28nm HK-MG (High-K + Metal Gate) die which is also being used by Octa.

The development of big.LITTLE has nothing to do with Samsung/Exynos. It's a revolutionary new approach to combining power and efficiency that's 100% designed, tested, and implemented by ARM (the same company whose designs Krait are based on) and has been in R&D for over two years. Samsung's nothing more than a licensee. I guess Samsung could screw up the implementation of big.LITTLE but their working with ARM directly on Octa so that seems unlikely. Delays trying to balance heat, battery life, and performance are probably likely. If the SGS4 isn't using Octa we'll know something's up in its development or tuning.

The biggest difference between ARM's current designs and big.LITTLE is the move away from asynchronous core management to synchronous.

This explains it.

"Asynchronous clock architecture is a design for multi-core processors, in which, each core is operated at different voltage levels and clock frequencies. As stated earlier, such a design schedules computationally intensive tasks for the faster core, while less demanding tasks for the slower core. Asynchronous clock architecture can thus be considered as one of the techniques to strike an optimum balance between performance and power consumption in multi-core processor based systems.

In contrast, synchronous clock architecture implements a CPU with separate cores, with each core running at the same, fixed values of voltages and frequencies. Processors based on the big.LITTLE architecture adopt the synchronous clock architecture. "​

Here's a PDF explaining the technical details of big.LITTLE and why it's so different from current designs. Those of you that are more technical will find it an interesting read. After reading it a lot of doubt about what ARM is trying to accomplish and why will be dispelled.

And none of this takes away from the fact that the S-600 is a brilliant SoC that will serve users of it well. :)
[One (M7) General] DTJO:
I'm 100% positive that it's worth of buying the One. But, although I preordered the One, I'm hoping that the S4 will not burst my bubble :p
[One (M7) General] riz157:
If it's made of plastic and amoled screen then don't worry you will be happy, which according to rumours it looks likely.

However if its lcd 3 equivalent and no cheap plastic crap used with good design, ext sd slot similar camera, tw revamp then you can be slightly concerned.
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
I just have a weird feeling about the One,I've had the iPhone 3GS since August 2009 and i've always been looking to upgrade but no phone has made me go "wow, i want that" since this One. I liked the Note 2, i've played with it loads of times but I never got round to ordering it, same with the GS3 and nothing from Apple has excited me.

2 hours after seeing hands on, very early reviews and the like I ordered it.

It's going to be good, because it has to be for my own sanity!
[One (M7) General] MohamadKarbi:
It's HTC Sense afterall. So, this phone isn't for those who don't like Sense style.

For me, I love Sense and I love pure Android on Nexus. So, I try to keep pace with them. I never bothered myself with (or waited for) other phones.
[One (M7) General] dragzer223:
Dang....how you held on to that 3GS for so long...I don't know haha. Hopefully this phone satisfies your wants and needs...actually for all of us.
[One (M7) General] DTJO:
Well I can't imagine that it will be made from something else then plastic, because they will probably use an micro sdcard slot and a removable battery.

I think it will be to difficult to remove a battery or microsd while the phone is made completely out of aluminium :D
[One (M7) General] kalo88:
Plenty of launchers out there to give the 'pure android' feel
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Apparently, the SGS4 will have Octa. And the device shown also supports LTE. 2013 is going to be an interesting year for smartphones. ;)
[One (M7) General] Cookie Ninja:
Just my 2 cents worth:

Choice of phone depends on usage patterns. I like my phone rooted first (and no faux unlock by htcdev will do), i need full s-off to gain write control on the entire emmc blocks. And that seems more & more impossible on htc devices (international, sim-free and carrier free too).

Sense looks good, but every iteration becomes heavier & system intensive, leading to greater battery drain & ui lags ( yup, even sense 4.0, 4.1 or sense 4+, so probably sense 5 will be along the same lines, after all the same design team's made it)

If you hop onto the cm/aosp wagon for speed, battery life and smoothness, you can kiss your camera, and any oem customized app/hardware uniqueness goodbye (see ya Zoe, blinkfeed, and probably the entire rear cam, coz htc will never release firmware/drivers for their proprietary cam, so see ya ultrapixel camera).

Then where do you stand? Probably better off buying another device... I rest my case.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Exynos Octa core only for European versions. U.S versions same as the HTC one. S600 quad core.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
Nothing about the SGS4 has been confirmed. You're just repeating the rumors that have been circulating on the web. Samfirmware's been the most quoted source and their consistently wrong. Like when they said the G-Tab 3 was being announced at MWC last week. It wasn't.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
I get my info from pocketnow. They are usually never wrong. Either way, it's samsung. I don't care for it.
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
That leaked photo of the Samsung we've all seen floating around the web showed the screen having some pretty bad back-light bleed. They'll probably really need the Octa, to make up for that if the screens end up looking like that one.
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
all i will say is this...wait for the announcement for the S4....then after that you guys can give the bashing a go if you like...till then rumors are just rumors..

regarding sammobile that is the worst site ever and would never believe those guys say
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
You'd think people who follow new devices would have learned by now. ;) The One's people are playing with are pre-production units and 99% of the people here have drawn conclusions based on paper specs, pics, videos, and second-hand opinion. The same enthusiasm existed for the One X after it was announced and before it was in actual user's hands and its launch was far from trouble free. The N4 and N10 were declared "best in class" based on pre-release info and they turned out to be far from trouble free also. I use to be first in line when a new device came out. I've learned to let you guys go first. What's on the front page of a devices XDA forum and how many pages are dedicated to specific issues after a device has been in people's hands for a few weeks is more telling than reviews, benchmarks, and fan-boy enthusiasm. The One may be the phone-to-end-all-phones. We'll know a couple of weeks after it goes on sale. Same thing goes for the SGS4.
[One (M7) General] romitkin:
Could you please clarify? AFAIK, none of the already released HTC devices had any problems with CM, especially with the camera. If they could get the drivers somehow, why wouldn't it be possible with the One?
[One (M7) General] Jahai:
You know that every HTC device with a Qualcomm is capable of s-off?

Only HOX with Tegra inside isn't.
[One (M7) General] Basil3:
You don't get the proprietary HTC features that come with the Sense camera. The CM camera is adequate, but rarely as good and often buggy.

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That's good to know. Having s-on with the hox was a pain in the hole.
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Yes, just like any other brand.

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] harpr33t:
It's definitely worth it. I mean if you trade in any working phone that isn't that old you'll get 100 bucks back in a gift card. Here's a link for that http://s.htc.com/htconereg

So thats basically 100 off and that brings the cost down for the awesome looking phone.
[One (M7) General] LoneFlac:
May be a little too late to bring this up, but that information has nothing to do with anything, just people being surveyed about what they like more online. I'm sure if people were asked in real life iPhones would come out on the top because they are very much more pleasing to the majority. Second of all my HTC one X+ had tons of problems, faulty vibrations, scuff marks out of the box, digitizer not glued in properly, backlight bleed, and dust under the screen.

Switched to the SGS3 and I love it. But, now I have an upgrade available. :)
[One (M7) General] monkboy24:
Wow bro! My one x+ came out of the box perfectly and iv had 0 problems! Sorry u had to deal with all that stuff bro:o I love my one x+:)
[One (M7) General] BaronInkjet:
I like styling. Never loved GS3 rounded corners. But I have two big concerns:

1. Audio will be a step down from Wolfson DAC on I9300

2. Camera image quality for non-low-light.

Waiting to see... :confused:
[One (M7) General] siddharthswaroop.m:
Tough decision

I bought the HTC one x last year. When galaxy s3 came out, I spent months defending my decision before finally giving in to all the positive reviews. And believe me, I was pleasantly surprised. I loved everything about it except it's plastic built and overstaturated screen. But that was a small price to pay given so much more of development going on xda when compared to one x. My gf uses my one x now. I will wait and see how the one fares when compared to gs4. After all it's only a matter of weeks now. I think everyone should wait. Just my opinion though:)
[One (M7) General] Cookie Ninja:
I think siddharthswaroop has hit the mail on the head... Wait (till the sgs4 launches), observe, decide and then buy. It will in all probabilities, not be a HTC 1.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Depending on how impatient people are for waiting the HTC One is not a bad choice at all and yes the GS4 is just around the corner but there is always a new phone just around the corner.
[One (M7) General] motavi:
The HTC phones sure look slick. I might try one out just for fun.
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
There's a big difference between "I had a dream today" around the corner and a formal announcement scheduled for nine days from now around the corner. I'm guessing most folks will keep their device for nine to fifteen months. Unless someone's sworn off Samsung so nothing they release matters, what's the harm in waiting a bit before making a commitment? Even better would be waiting until some One's and SGS4's were in people's hands to hear real world feedback as opposed to taking media hyperbole at face value. Anandtech and GSMArena will run standardized tests on both devices and provide real evaluations and comparisons of the following:

Design and build

Display brightness, contrast, and viewing angles

Battery life for voice, web, and video

UI and software features and functions

SoC, GPU, and browser benchmarks

Voice call quality and loudness

Audio quality taking in to account frequency response, noise level, dynamic range, and stereo crosstalk

Still camera performance using professional assessment tools

Video camera performance including audio capture quality

Wireless performance including voice, Wi-Fi, BT, and GPS

To me, making a nine to fifteen month purchase decision without knowing how multiple devices I might be considering perform in the above areas isn't very smart. And it's not like we know how either the One or SGS4 perform in those areas based on the limited info out on the One and no info out on the SGS4. Again, if someone's committed to HTC I guess performance, especially competitive performance, is irrelevant so commit away. For those that are objective waiting a couple of weeks to see how the One (and SGS4) do in rigorous testing and in people's hands doesn't seem like a bad idea.
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
I must admit technically speaking I am very curious about how samsung will implement the big little design into the android operating system and what drawbacks there will be in choosing this methodology both for performance and for battery life.

As much as I don't like Samsung phones due to their cheap feel I certainly would not dismiss it if the price and specification was right.

End of the day we all make informed decisions about our usage and what we want from a phone and like you said waiting a bit longer won't kill anyone and there will be tons of video's out comparing both phones the second it gets into reviewers hands (if the SGS4 has not done so already)
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Nice information there and I know ARM designed it ;) Bad english on my part or I should of proof read what I typed before submitting it.
[One (M7) General] Ollieee:
It blows my mind how you estimate 9-15 months and even think of this as a very long span of time.

I've been using my Nexus One for 34 months by now... and I won't wait for Samsung, I'm pretty confident in the HTC One as a decent replacement:

+ from a smaller company (that's a good thing to me)

+ nice high quality materials

+ taking risks with display size and camera (I prefer both 4.7" screen and the camera approach)

+ speakers in the front (makes sense to me)

o no SD-card (I don't care)

- battery not removable despite the device not being water-resistant

So, when the Xperia Z couldn't beat it for me, there is no way Samsung could.
[One (M7) General] monkboy24:
Welp after checking out the specs for the LG optimus g pro it looks like I won't be getting the ONE after all :o
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Just curious, besides the bigger screen (not a good thing for everybody) what spec impressed you?

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] BarryH_GEG:
It blows my mind when people reflect their own opinions, behavior, and attitudes toward mobile devices on others as if those that think or behave differently are somehow wrong. I average about a device every six months which I'll be the first to admit is a little nuts but I consider it a hobby. Neither your 30 or my 6 are "right" and represent extremes on the spectrum. Here in the U.S. where the majority of phones are subsidized the average keep is nineteen months. And that doesn't include involuntary replacement from loss or damage. Being an enthusiasts site I'd bet the average device turnover rate for active members here is probably close to a year. I know there's a bunch of people here that beat my six month average.
[One (M7) General] coupetastic-droid:
Absolutely nothing. It's the same power wise, but without the beautifully designed HTC aluminum unibody and sexy sense 5. If Samsung can't win me over neither will LG.
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Yeah, same CPU, GPU... But I was wondering if he was talking about some spec software related.

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] David111jr:
i have a htc one s and ive had every type of name brand phones sony, 2x htc, samsung, lg, all mid-high end devices all where great.... as much as im leaning to going back to samsung with there new galaxy s4 release comming soon, ...the new motorola x does look promising... i think im going to to try to hold off and see these three phones battle it out.

long story short.. if you can wait b.c theres some good releases comming soon.
[One (M7) General] monkboy24:
The bigger battery, and 13 megapixel cam

I have big hands so the big screen works for me:cool:
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Enough reasons for me. Hope you enjoy it man. Today, particularly, I think that more than 5" is to much but at the same time I see some of my friends with >5" screens saying that would never come back to a smaller one. Maybe I'm just used to, maybe I change my mind later... But not now.

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] rotchcrocket04:
I'm with you on the camera image quality during regular lighting. I'm using an iPhone 5 now and the photo quality is spectacular. Since I don't take alot of low-light photos, I'm not that concerned about it. However, I take a ton of photos. As desperately as I want to come back to Android, I don't want to sacrifice image quality. Time will tell, I suppose.
[One (M7) General] Tunasty:
I think its hard to say right now. I'm definitely looking forward to see Galaxy S IV.
[One (M7) General] riz157:
Err it is matter of design but that would mean less profit for samsung. If it retails let's say £350 then it makes sense to buy plastic, excuse the punt but when the consumer is expected to £500+ then we as consumers should expect more for our money. I don't really care if Samsung, apple, htc make LESS profit but if they want our money then they have to earn it.

I've bought original S,S2,S3 and note, Note 2 lte and basically won't pay for plastic again especially as i have more choice now.

iPhone fans are starting to make a noise and want to be listened to, no more are they willing to be loyal to apple, simply take what they have been offered. Many iPhone fans have jumped ship and switched to android, mainly Samsung. Apple are going to have bring some real innovation to their phones otherwise they will lose further customers, perhaps millions more. Samsung will have to adjust themselves because sooner or later they will lose their share in the market if they still package their software with cheap plastic crap.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Hmmm as far as I know anodizing doesn't need a new process whatsoever. If done correctly it should be very2 hard. Did you know that satellites used in space are being anodized to withstand impact against any space debris?

What I am worried of is the way they are putting in on phones.
[One (M7) General] Vauix:
I can't look it up now, but what I understand is that they use a new grade of aluminium composite. I think Engadget mentioned it.
[One (M7) General] nebsif:
Yeah yeah fancy materials like iPhone 5 and HTC One S that sound uber good in theory, but practically they start to peel and get scratched the same week you buy the phone.

Build quality != fancy materials.

People said One X has superior build quality coz it used polycarbonate, yet there were phones with badly glued displays, light leaks and yellow spots, thats bad build quality right there.

Imo, dont buy HTC One, wait to see what GS4 has to offer or buy Xperia Z, that one is water resistant and IIRC has a mSD slot.

For my taste, HTC One is more of a 2012 phone with a huge resolution display, its thick (9.3mm), sealed and has too much bezel for a 2013 flagship. Rest is all gimmicks, just like the image chip and beats (praise Tegra DAC) in One X which were inferior to.. nothing fancy-branded in GS3.

I was dying for a new phone last year when One X was announced, yet I waited for GS3 and didnt regret it, and thats coming from HTC Desire and having Legend and Sensation in le family. If I want I can convert it anytime to MAXXX, and a day one root is eazy mode, no locked bootloaders / warranty bull**** etc.
[One (M7) General] touchdiamond84:
I've got a One X+, and that phone has been nothing but awesome. But after seeing this HTC One, it's a whole new ball game. I wanna get it:cowboy:. I'm not sure about the Blink Feed feature, but i really like HTC Zoe, Boomsound (laughable name) and not to mention Sense TV. Oh and also not to mention i saw it do a 12500 or there abouts benchmark test, where as my One X+ does 7200~.
[One (M7) General] prissysox:
Oh I want it too. But I'm a phone junkie.
[One (M7) General] strip419:
Who told u THEY will stick to plastic(they still make good phones with plastic...sum drop test show us) if Sammy uses plastic be sure they will add sumtin that's makes u forget its plastic....Sammy sure knows how to sell