yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
I hope HTC One sells well, I didn't realise how fast HTC's sales & profits were declining.

It’s official. HTC is definitely not doing well. They’ve just reported that their revenue has declined to only $384 million in February, this year. That’s a 44% drop compared to only 4 months ago. So it’s pretty obvious they are going downhill here, and it’s happening fast.

This makes their sales as low as they’ve been early 2010, about the time they released the first Nexus device ever, the Nexus One. This announcement comes after last month they experienced the lowest profit since 2004 – only $34 million – which was a drop of 91% compared to a year before.

Source

http://androidheadlines.com/2013/03/htc-lowest-sales-time-for-new-nexus.html
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Of course there'd be a drop in profit after they've announced the One, which has yet to have been released.

Q1 is probably dead as the second half of March wouldn't account for much, even if it bombs with sells. Q2 is what's worth looking forward to in terms of sells in my opinion.

If it wouldn't be better by then, HTC would be in a really bad spot.
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
Where are all the reviews by Engadget, verge, etc?!

Is there a NDA until launch?
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
How can these people call themselves tech journalists, they deserve a beating with a rotten salmon. I already discussed this on another site, as well with a v.knowledgeable person. They conclude that the T4 scores higher because of graphics, even though the GS4 actually gets higher scores on the 3D /2D tests:silly:, it scores higher because of a much higher CPU scores, integer and floating point.

Tegra 4's huge CPU score in AnTuTu with only a 100 MHz clock advantage over the GS4 with the same QUAD A15s is strange, until you notice that their test tablet was connected to mains electricity, I guarantee it was pulling a lot mores watts than an OEM device will be allowed / able to on battery.

I reckon the GS4 will lead most benchmarks vs HTC One, but in real-life the difference won't be easily noticeable. The most interesting aspect of the GS4 will be battery life whilst gaming, the low-power A7s should cope with the demands of most games, occasionally using the A15s when needed, this will also allow the GPU to throttle less frequently, as the CPU is demanding less power during gameplay.

We currently don't officially know the clockspeed of the HTC One's GPU, official leaked slides infer 400 MHz, some are saying 450 MHz. Nexus 4 custom kernels are having great success at undervolting the CPU and overclocking the GPU to 487 MHz, that config Nexus 4 are easily hitting 33 FPS in GLB. That means for those willing to flash custom kernels, there should be another 10% GPU performance available, this may even rise to 20% if the GPU is still at 400 MHz in the Snapdragon 600.
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
I have seen some you tube videos where the HTC One scores 25, 064 in antutu in this video at 2:56mins http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wijp79uCwFg
[One (M7) General] ethan3686:
"IN REAL LIFE" every phone will be similar...XPeria z ,HTc ONe. SGS4,Optimus g pro..etc will work similarly..Its just for Quadrant whores :P
[One (M7) General] Brac20:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Apparently the final release software is being pushed out any day. Probably keeping the NDA up until they've had chance to play on the final software.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
No software makes a huge difference. In the past I didn't like HTC Sense, but 5.0 looks much better, and if the leaked GS4 screenshots are real, then Touchwiz is still an ugly cartoon version of Android.
[One (M7) General] stesa:
maybe it'll be ugly but the GS4 will have a lot of plus like the smart-stayng the eye-traking and most of all the smart piss-taking
[One (M7) General] :
OT: Are you the same Turbotab over at the Beyond3D?
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Only one Turbotab, thankfully, why?
[One (M7) General] schrickm5:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Yep you probably don't have this issue, some other people do though.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=33652923
[One (M7) General] omersak:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nQyOpixiU

Erica delivers the best HTC One video yet (yes, taken at MWC).
[One (M7) General] Jubei1:
Im split on this. I do think Nvidia as usual is being misleading in their benchmarks, but Nebuchadnezzar on b3d expected Octa to bench around 30k on Antutu and i trust him

Given that this is an unverified leak of most likely a prototype, we should be careful before reaching any conclusions. The same applies to HTC Ones GPU, i have a feeling there will be a performance increase with Android 4.2
[One (M7) General] alex9898:
Exynos 5 Octa's scores on Antutu are extremely close to those of the HTC One except for the RAM part. I bet it's an S600 and not really an Octa.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
All good points, but

1) how quickly do the A15s in Octa throttle to keep within thermal / power constraints of a smartphone?

2) Hopefully, more mature drivers boost HTC One's graphics further, it's free perfromance:D However, I'm getting obsessed by the GPU MHz, I can't believe it is more than 450 MHz, as that was the figure quoted for the Snapdragon 800 on Qualcomm's leaked slides, so there should be headroom for overclocking, given the results of Nexus 4s on custom kernels.
[One (M7) General] Jubei1:
Yes the thought of throttling has occured to me too. But until next week we can only speculate.. It will be interesting to see how Nvidia plays this out given that they went with a different design for Tegra 4. Fuad from Fudzilla went on the record that Nvidia has a design win with HTC and ZTE announced they will release a phone with it aswell, so its definately coming for phones aswell

And yes as you mentioned Qualcomms leaked roadmap showed S600 GPU to be clocked at 400 MHz. But if you go to Qualcomms site, they mention a "speed enhanced" Adreno 320 for S600. What that means is unfortunately too vague atleast for me
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Form what i have seen so far i am starting to feel like the one x all over again...
[One (M7) General] RCJ89:
I found most of the smart stuff on s3/gn2 to be pure gimmicks.
[One (M7) General] YoungAceAtlanta:
well of course its going to be limited to only "Samsung apps"
[One (M7) General] shox22:
a small german benchmark comparission between the one x, the one, the xperia z and the note 2.
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

link?

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Ops,

here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d2IA5uAPE7I
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
How? Even with no modding the GPU is easily 2x Tegra in native 1080p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Lets assume the leaked Samsung is aggressively OCed at 487 scoring 41s, this would mean the One is actually still at 400mhz, anyway its hard to guess since drivers are also in question, the way I see it the Samsung is definitely aggressively clocked, while the HTC should be a little higher than 400, perphaps 425?

As for sales it's funny how the media covers things, the m7 was being hyped since late last tear no wonder he sales are down
[One (M7) General] Foukos:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Well the thing is that the average user doesn't mod his phone...that's what I meant with my comment
[One (M7) General] matheus_sc:
new video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23nQyOpixiU
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Its slated for being released in consumer devices by mid yr... So it'll be way before December for the 800
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Not sure what you mean?
[One (M7) General] Jubei1:
He means Snapdragon 800 devices will be available for purchase by July/August.
[One (M7) General] joelteixeira:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

HTC One Harlem shake video :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8W64kWkeHM

Tapatalked from my GNex
[One (M7) General] sgt. slaughter:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Correct. According to Raj at least. ... Which he's been solid in past and knows his stuff overall... He is vp products at Qualcomm...
[One (M7) General] Keith577:
But clove.uk mentioned, it won't be available before March 15.
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Nice!
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Some more sincere and direct from taiwan. Well, atleast this time under a degrees of sun shining...

BTW they host a launch party tonight..
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Makes sense, only if you could define "mid year" as around August. No chance anything would be out before then.

He meant devices running Snapdragon 800, not the One.
[One (M7) General] -]Megacharge[-:
I'm kinda worried about this though.

http://focustaiwan.tw/ShowNews/WebNews_Detail.aspx?Type=aECO&ID=201303070005
[One (M7) General] radiotrib:
Hake sure you play it in full-screen HD to see it properly/ On a new 27 inch iMac it looks great !!

---------- Post added at 08:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:26 AM ----------

Wait and see ...
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
I think these pics are showing that the silver One looks better. Of course that opinion might change Once you see both in person.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Smartphone roundup: Fastest, biggest, and brightest from MWC 2013
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Damn, time isn't moving! It is still 7th :( and I thought I'll be having a good time 'soon' :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]23nQyOpixiU[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
found this interesting answer on elevate thanks to Ahmad
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Damn!

No review units and they pulled back the limited release in Singapore,so no user reviews or anything till the 16th March :crying:

Looks like there is bug they want to correct before...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
my money on the camera...
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Let's open a bet on the UK bet central then ;)
[One (M7) General] onlinejobwork:
Every night I had a dream about HTC one, last night its was nightmare, what I seen in the dream "I went to toilet and when I come out I found delivery guy's left the card on my door mention that 'Sorry to missed you' OMG I will not taking bath, toilet or Nap during delivery time and date just to make sure the nightmare dosant come real:confused::laugh: btw Nik what u gonna do on 1st day 1st thing with ONE after getting it
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Perhaps HTC doesn't want to release any review unit or presale because they are afraid someone will pull the system partition and port Zoe and blink to other HTC devices like OneX...
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
im looking forward to release as much as anyone but really....

if you really dream about a phone, i feel truly sorry for you :s
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Im happy for HTC to hold back release untill its ready, the HOX launched with spotty camera performance as well as an out of date version of android and most reviews dont get updated ! This hurt the One X in the long run as perception of the device was based on the software it shipped with and not what into what it evolved into.

Its funny how JB has crippled the S3 battery life and performance.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Whoever ports blinkfeed I'm pretty sure he'll get lesser appreciation from the community :p

Regarding zoe I doubt it... Other than the sense imaging chip it's insane for a 8mp phone to shoot so many pictures + video in 3 seconds
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
It's not like us geeks have anything better to dream about...
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
here is one theory! :)

Android 4.2.2? ;)
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
4.2.2 is not a reason i think.. would be keylime pie probably ;)

anyway HTC themselves have said 4.2 will be an update but device will release with 4.1 ..

I believe they have finished optimising the software and want to do a final round of tests on the devices before they send out the review devices...

(or perhaps smart stay lol )
[One (M7) General] Tuborg68:
Sv: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Theory: the aluminium factory in my town has raised their prices since the demand for the One beautiful alu body is massive. HTC management is chocked :) .
[One (M7) General] Maedhros:
I have an acquaintance that does carrier testing for devices and is testing the Xperia Z NA variant atm.

His coworker recently acquired a HTC One, and he basically told me that unless I preferred the design of the Sony better, there is no reason to purchase if over the one. The one is superior inevery regard.

If he gets the chance to test the one I will take comparison photos.
[One (M7) General] Eggcake:
No way...so they can delay the ports for a week or so? Right.

I'm hoping they are simply bug fixing. I think they have learnt their lesson from the One X release. Better sacrifice some more days or a week to really iron out more bugs than to release it too early.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Hahaha, wow that's an extreme one! For the question, we do have a thread "What will you do first when you get your 1"
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Yeah like I said again :D "Press teh freaking power button"
[One (M7) General] Shasarak:
No?

Caroline Munro, circa 1972. Case closed.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
On a positive note, it will lessen the media attention of the GS4 launch....
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you mean if the reviews appear at the same time?

i really dont know if positive or negative to be honest

with people following up on the SGs4 reveal, HTC One reviews might be overlooked

maybe HTC is indeed rushing android 4.2?
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
I think if the one gets delayed it could not be worse timing with the announcement of the SGS4 just around the corner specially if Samsung announce a release date for the end of march how many people who wanted the one would then wait?
[One (M7) General] vegetaleb:
Not bad!

If they give the review units on 13-14th March to pro-reviewers,they will need at

least

3 days to post the review,perfect timing after the sgs4 storm is passed.

Last year we were happy that everybody was talking about the OneX till the sgs3 was unveiled,since that black day nobody cared about the One X (press).

So:

-Bugs that need to be fixed so that reviewers don't begin to shout like children.

-Pro reviews to re-boost the talkings about the One after sgs4 is unveiled instead of being forgotten
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
what? :rolleyes:

you are assuming people will prefer the SGS4...

if people wanted the s4 they would wait anyway

its battle those who prefer the One, will always go with the One

and in honesty outside gaming, what advantage does the S4 hold against the HTC One?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC One 64GB priced at over $800. Still cheaper than iPhone 5 64GB
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Not assuming people would prefer the GS4 just thinking how long would people wait for a phone if it's delayed by weeks and I was using the GS4 as an example as that is the only phone I am aware of which is just around the corner for being available.

I know a lot of people would rather stick and wait for the One over any other phone due to personal preferences but impatience and unwilling to wait for a phone does contribute to people looking elsewhere.
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
well i might be stepping on thin OT lines... but Sammy's got plastic :P

you are right.. people loving a htc will always get a htc and samsung fans will get samsungs.. and the others will just buy whatever the salesrep in the shop sells them
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
interesting (read: intel)

APPLE MAY HAVE FINALLY FOUND A WAY TO DUMP SAMSUNG ONCE AND FOR ALL
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
Maybe I am in the minority by not really minding who produces the phone as long as I like it be it Samsung, HTC or LG.
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
ouch!!! that would hurt Samsung's revenue if its reall..
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you see, consider me im an HTC fan for their build but im a big advocate for mobile gaming and in your pocket photography as well

i know all the facts for the upcoming One in terms of gaming and from my past HTC experience, i know very well they have a very troubled CPU governor for games, the GPU already strainned, qualcomm SOCs not so specially supported by devs and i know the upcoming S4 will have an aggressively clocked SGX 544MP3 + 4x a15

so if im forced to pick between the two, i would still go with HTC, knowing my gaming problem i convinced myself, fine for all the other wins on the HTC, i will fix the governor / whatever trouble in games like i always

does it piss me off? hell yes! i keep dreaming for an HTC with good gaming out of box, but for all the other wins on the One, especially built/refinement/taste the s4 still sux ;)
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
Exactly software can be optimized by kernel tweaks etc,, but once you buy the actual hardware your stuck with it.. how much ever you hate it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Asus Padfone 2 review with 13MP camera and s4pro, it will please HTC ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
OMG, 8 cores processor BS has already begun :(

Samsung Galaxy S4 specs confirmed: 5-inch AMOLED screen, 8-core processor
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
I saw that they are just repeating what everyone else is stating from "their sources".
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
What did you expect, Samsung loaded that gun when they called it Octa,

OT On a lighter note, browse to Google's I/O page they have an interactive display, guess the code and unlock some cool stuff. I'll help you out, I've found 3 already

11100111

10000001

10001000

https://developers.google.com/events/io/
[One (M7) General] daleski75:
But 4 + 4 surely means 8 though lol...
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
11010011

1001000

01010011

:laugh:
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
[YOUTUBE]6m87kjyIv8Q[/YOUTUBE]

Zoe from HTC One Taiwan Launch Party.

:good:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Protect your HTC One with the new OtterBox Commuter and Defender Series cases

two words: HELL NO! :p
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Oh Yes, acquire some new shots..

From these I was able to tell you that...

New weather, guess this haven't expose it before.

Just get mentioned in some news but without screenshot.

This is 'Kids Mode'.

No suprise but a confirmation, USB OTG..

What this meant? HTC One is on BigData Partition too..

No suprise here, because this has became the default since X+.

No more worries and blame on certain partition approaching full consumptions.

RAM after 10 Mins in certainly good state.

Seems like the GPU decide to took 512MB for the thirsty 1080p.

If not mistaken, same amount as Butterfly (same GPU too).

More AOSP Holo likes screenshots.

Like it? Don't forget to likes this post. Thanks..
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Analogy: Why would you cover a super model in pig Sh!t?
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
Opps.. Did OtterBox already has some sample or they managed to Photoshop first..

I bet the latter.. Hah~ presshot photo.
[One (M7) General] nickmgray:
Personally, I've never used a case on any of my HTC phones, but most consumers can't seem to get enough of them. OtterBox has a very good reputation for keeping phones safe, but they are ridiculously gaudy and make your device feel like a brick.
[One (M7) General] Nfinity:
^^^This. It cracks me up when people rave and rant about the materials cell phones are made of (Aluminum > Plastic blah blah) only to rush out and put a giant plastic case over it (And a silly looking one at that). Same goes for how thin a phone is.

This will be my first aluminum phone, and I'm going (silly looking, bulking) case free.
[One (M7) General] Turbotab:
Sir, German films of a certain pedigree would disagree with you:eek:
[One (M7) General] jhonsok:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Sure if you keep the phone and dont plan on reselling it.

I use my One x without a case and now I can't resell it for as much as I want to. I would have used that money towards a One.

But with development going the way it has been I don't think I'll get rid of my One X anytime soon. It'll give me my flashing fix while we wait for development for the One to kick off.

I can't wait to try the snapdragon 600. Hopefully it will be a lag free experience no matter what I'm doing.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
Just asking. Do you guys think HTC One won't have mass storage mode and stick with MTP also?

Would have been alot better if it's in english or at least guide us what those numbers mean... Can't understand a thing... Sorry.

What's the:

120mb?

72.47mb?

671mb?

143mb?

6.74gb?

24.28gb?
[One (M7) General] sr1ks:
looking at the one X phone storage section

120mb? apps

72.47mb? music

671mb? photos and videos

143mb? downloads

6.74gb? Other

24.28gb? Available
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
It's unified MTP don't sweet it :)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
OT

^^^^Just so you know...^^^

Like the one I'm downloading now?

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Joke :eek:
[One (M7) General] beno619:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

New Review YAY :)

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smartphones/1298431/htc-one
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
great!
[One (M7) General] Hessia:
Too bad the most ''reviews'' actual more hands-on are complaining about the outside day shots..

I use my smartphone alot on holiday to take pictures of random moments.

I'm getting the One anyway.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
Here is a more complete review. Interesting bits:

http://jonchoo.blogspot.pt/2013/03/htc-one-review.html
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
I thought through this thread it was already found out to have LPDDR2???
[One (M7) General] HebeGuess:
I know I'm kinda skeptical BUT with only the statement you picked:-

Everyone has their favorite position for the button. But before criticing the spot please at least think about the IR sensor too. Since HTC One has infrared transmitter, the only feasible place for it was on top. HTC made a great decision for joined the power button and IR sensor together. Go on to critic unless you really want more artifacts scatter around the unibody.

APQ8064T support LPDDR3, but as we already knew HTC One is equipped with (LP?)DDR2.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No he is wrong about the s4pro comment, no need to discuss this again, the s600 has few hardware tweaks as he mentions later in his review

Most likely it's using the fast available DDR2 as confirmed

Otherwise excellent review

Slippery back is confirms ;) at least on the silver

Guess its also safe to say battery concerns are a thing of the past
[One (M7) General] MrKaon:
Re: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

lag free out of box that's lovely.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Thanks jesr for this review link, I have to say I'm finally excited about the HTC One

Goes to OP and reviews post
[One (M7) General] craftycarper1:
I agree to the slippery back, after my handling of a dummy unit, but do we hold our phones so lightly that it will be a problem?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
No jot a problem but I'm assuming for those with this concern black might be a better choice

As for me I think I will go with the silver just for the design to show to the fullest and I need a break from black, plus I'm a sucker for non coated material
[One (M7) General] rkial:
Has the embargo for the reviews been lifted?
[One (M7) General] Narom88:
YAY. My first new phone in 4 years and it appears i've pre-ordered a bloody beast! Roll on next friday!
[One (M7) General] mikbe:
Can't be worse than my current Xperia S.