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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
remember first thing is GL :) (i know u know, just reminding)
[One (M7) General] prfrma:
Is there some battery life benchmark you could ninja?
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

Number one on my list.

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Not in that short time frame sry.
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
HTC One X+ vs One

This is all I could find for One x+ vs One:

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Here is the video for One X+ vs One:

[YOUTUBE]sPrgohaYvFw[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
jonas

is it possible to download a file explorer and browse to the thermal throttling config file to see the setup?

i know obviously you can't edit it without root, but you should be able to view it, right?

hamdir?
[One (M7) General] jonas2295:
AW: HTC Flagship 2013 - HTC One - Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ 600 - Mega Information Thread

One x+ is very close to the htc one x. So it's a quite good comparison.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the One is just a little bit longer thats' all
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no you can't access it without root
[One (M7) General] NiCk.JaY:
Because of the dual speakers
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
this is why im praying HTC implemented alternative wake up options like volume wake, but im not holding my breath, the power button is now a little further away
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
at least it's on the correct side now though (the left as you look at it) - my incredible s is on the right (as you look at it)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yea im glad the brought it back to the left like the Desire HD and definitely happier they dropped the horrible center power button on the DNA/Butterfly
[One (M7) General] djbenny1:
i wish theyd put the micro usb in the middle at the bottom though, and not off centre
[One (M7) General] Goku80:
Seriously:confused::eek: really:eek: I would never have thought so. :D
[One (M7) General] KidCarter93:
Everything I've read about iOS 7 has mainly been mentioning iTunes radio. Innovation at it's finest to create a radio app :eek:
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
http://www.androidcentral.com/apple-s-ios-7-copied-everyone-and-s-good-thing this is a good article. & honestly who cares what apple has used. Its not going to suddenly cause android to go. I dont get why everyone is so uptight about it.
[One (M7) General] Riyal:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION], [MENTION=4164620]nashshafrulrezza[/MENTION] or anyone who can capture a pitch black image in the dark areas.

Could you guys please post here your camera sensor?

It's stated in /sys/android_camera/sensor

Just open it with any text viewer editor and post here the results.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
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[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
Don't know why so much hate on ios7 I personally love it(i may be biased), I really hated the old look of iOS even if I use it, this one IMHO looks unique,not inspired by android (after-all all the os resemble each other they can't be too much different) in my opinion but more the new youtube-google+ style. As I said before I may be biased(the so called isheep) but I like the new color pattern and the transparent effect.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
i know that apple is sucking us in with UI

I expected them doing this..They ran out of ideas after steve jobs passed away

End Of OT
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
OT

Have you read more about the new Mac Pro? It seems to have a genius design(talking about engineering not about look).
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Looks are so glossy

but the motherboard in cylindricla shape is something very genius
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
No one last OT and i have to get this out of my system..

PLAYSTATION 4 FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
PS4 is Better Than Xbox One!!!!!!!!!

Have a ps3 because of its bluray playback

and still i coudnt jailbreak without paying 50$
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Better, more affordable, more powerful, better exclusives, free online gaming, better support for used games, DDR 5Ram, the list goes on and on. I'm so excited for this. Soooo excited!
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
GDDR5 RAM and DDR3 RAM preference is debatable. Each is good at one thing, and bad at others. It shouldn't be a selling point.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
isnt the speed and calculations of GDDR5 more faster than GDDR3?
[One (M7) General] barondebxl:
Its still a good point I think no?
[One (M7) General] HTInOxM8:
It seems a flat looking UI is the rage all this year starting with Windows 8, Sense 5 and now ios 7 .
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
GDDR5 has higher bandwidth, but also MUCH higher latency. DDR3 has very low latency, but has lower bandwidth as well. GPUs need high bandwidth memory for AA and AF for textures, while CPUs need low latency memory to keep things flowing smoothly. That's why the advantages and disadvantages of Sony's and MS's choice of memory won't be known until the consoles themselves start getting out to the public.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
And are you guys forgetting the ps4 has a 150% the amount of GPU cores

Even anandtech said it bluntly, the ps4 is hands down the more powerful system
[One (M7) General] Xerro-Five:
This is how I see it at least: maybe I'm wrong :p

GDDR has a much higher transfer capacity than DDR (bandwidth)

DDR has much faster transfer speeds than GDDR (latency)

GDDR is used in GPU systems because GPUs use many processing cores in parallel to accomplish tasks. This means that they don’t need to move data around very often since a complex process is handled across the cores simultaneously after the request is made. Then the results are pooled into the RAM and sent out as a large packet

DDR is used as system memory because CPUs use few processing cores to accomplish tasks

This means that data is moved around frequently because a complex task is broken up into many parts to be handled by the CPU, and the results of each part have to be sent to RAM and then immediately accessed again by the CPU to continue the next part of the large task. So DDR must be faster

DDR = move small packets of information quickly

GDDR = move large packets of information slowly

Theoretically the APU design of the PS4 should allow full utilization of the GDDR5 RAM for better video decoding/playback and graphic display because the required CPU tasks (minimal compared to GPU tasks) can be completed and then more quickly passed or combined with the required GPU tasks and output to video because the two processors are physically very close to each other (much closer than a discrete CPU and GPU). GPUs are also very good at handling some non-graphics related work as well, so an APU configuration allows these tasks to be handed to the GPU instead of CPU without waiting.

Discrete configurations do this too, but it’s not as efficient, partially since the RAM is not shared.
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
A tough comparison, considering that some games even on PC are CPU-bound. The Jaguar cores in both consoles are MUCH slower than their desktop counterparts. I would imagine they would be constantly stressed to make the most of the hardware :)
[One (M7) General] Xerro-Five:
^^Agreed, very mid level CPUs in both. Hopefully knowing that, they optimize appropriately :)
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I missed them saying this, I wasn't aware that they had 150% more GPU cores...

Was it here? http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4

I'm still swinging the way of Xbox One though I think... :p

I'm not an Xbox fanboy, Nintendo is still king to me!!! :laugh::highfive::victory::fingers-crossed::angel:
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
the extra GPU modules on the PS4 can be used either as shaders but more importantly as compute resources ;)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6972/xbox-one-hardware-compared-to-playstation-4/2

1152 vs 768 cores = 150%
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
The PS4 might actually be the first console I might get. Costs almost half the price of the HTC One xD
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
yes i dont really what are you resisting really

just browse the entire gaming web today, everyone agrees the PS4 destroys the Xbox One

some samples

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-06-07-microsoft-kills-game-ownership-and-expects-us-to-smile

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/11/e3-2013-sonys-knock-out-blow

price, specs, games, used games policy, indie games support and no DRM, no to mention the secondary SOC handling all the updates and install duties in the background, oh and the touch in the controller

This is Sony's brightest moment to be honest :)

but im sure they enduring a tough loss the first year on those 8GB GDDR5 and price

and i dont get MS, they are not doing super fine lately with windows 8 and phones, so i dont understand how they think they can set the rules

anyway enough OT
[One (M7) General] ArmedandDangerous:
I dono, the price on new console games here is ridiculous. I'm waiting to see how the local used games market is before deciding.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
One more quick OT ;)

Which way are you swinging Hamdir? Xbox One or PS4?

I might get PS4 first... then move onto Xbox One in the Q3 of 2014...

I was just pleased to see World of Tanks on Xbox360 :silly::laugh::good:

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Buy this or I will eat your children!
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
PC is still my preferred! :P But looks like we might be getting lockscreen widgets on the One. http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/opensense-sdk/lock-screen also I wont be using my One for a little bit (shoot me down all you like) but I'm curious about iOS 7 so I'm trying it.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Since hes a ps3 user..I am sure that hes grabbing the ps4

«TrickDroid User»
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
very odd question when im praising the ps4 in my post lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
you installed the beta on your iPhone?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Do you think so?

I thought you might have just been showing appreciation for the console.

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I praise my best-friends wife's cooking... doesn't mean I want to buy her though! :silly::laugh:
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I have indeed and I'm not sure if I like it or not :P. They have dynamic wallpapers now.
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Is that just a 'live wallpaper'?
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
no im pretty sure i was a little more clear than that

first you know me and GPUs

second i have a ps3

third the policy of the X1 is unacceptable in my book especially since i dont live in a world with fast connetction

i think i praised the ps4 a lot more than to suggest there is a chance to swing the other way

anyway come one guys lets be done with OT
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yes it is same thing.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
come-one admit it, its baltant theft ;)

anyway play a while with it and then go back to your one, look at the icons and you will understand, subtly, refined, classy vs a colorful mess

but i can't say i am not happy, my iPad is almost useless with the stupid OS and lack of multitasking, iOS 7 and real multitasking will make it a little more useful again
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
That I do :victory::laugh::good:

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Anyway, looking forward to 4.2.2 :)

Anyone else seen the 'leak' on the HTC Tiara?

Can't be real! It's nasty!
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Bar the icons on the iPhone which I dislike, a lot of it design wise isn't too bad. & them taking stuff from android really doesn't bother me at all :P plus it means HTC can use some of this stuff. I much prefer the iOS lock screen. Its just the icons ._.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
I'm not sure are my eyes playing tricks on me but did i just saw similar notification pull down as on the tablets on ios 7 and the similar multitasking window as on sense 4 :eek:

[YOUTUBE]i7EgUZsU0CI[/YOUTUBE]

Anyway good for them they're going for a chance , another thing is we literally have the confirmation that we finally over throned ios system , they started copying android / windows heavily lol. I'm curious how is apple gonna bare with us when we get 4.3 or 5.0 , seen some crazy stuff from android 4.3.

Btw heres everything about Ios7 . for those who didn't watch it or missed it.

[YOUTUBE]qzUH9PJA1Ro[/YOUTUBE]
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
This is the exact design and build as the Desire VS

http://www.htc.com/www/smartphones/htc-desire-sv/

having seen one myself, its not bad at all as mid range device but otherwise it has nothing to do with the fancy HTC others
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Yes it similar but I'd say more so to WebOS/jailbreaks that were around before sense 4. Except apples does look nicer than sense 4. I hated that multitasking layout. Big changes in 4.3?
[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
It reminds me of just one half of one of those old iffy Clam-shell-esque phones.

It just seems a step in the wrong direction for HTC, okay I know it's a mid range device but c'mon, lets not scrimp on the styling now HTC!
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
Correction

Desire SV

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[One (M7) General] The-Last-Hylian:
TheVerge aren't happy but when are they ever?

The design of iOS 7: simply confusing
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
I'm surprised some android people didnt love this as they have bashed apple/iOS and everyone calls them apple lovers etc.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
like i said you can not deny there are similar elements to Sense

anyone they have a contract together HTC and Apple, so we can't really say anything

the only thing i hate the "mess", the colors mainly in the icons areas and the over the top transitions animations

still lots of tweaking till "Fall"
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Agree so much with this, it does seem messy. The animations are really slow in the first beta so it just seems klunky.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Heres pretty much everything regarding 4.3

[YOUTUBE]9pmPa_KxsAM[/YOUTUBE]

I suggest you to look for the new features instead of watching for 3 hrs lol :P
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Oh I watched that :P I thought you meant actual 4.3 not the service upgrades google added.
[One (M7) General] jesr:
OT

Hands On with the Final NVIDIA Shield Hardware

Hands On with a Tegra 4i Phone
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Nvidia is crazy Q1 2014? for a low end T4 device

meanwhile Snapdragons are dancing, i mean perphaps by Q1 2014, S600 will be the low end on Qualcomm's side and this slaughters the T4i
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
it's very interesting that project shield scores about the same as our Adreno 320 with 4.2.2 and GPU450 in T-Rex

http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=NVidia+Shield

the HP slate 10 x2 scores even lower

http://gfxbench.com/device.jsp?benchmark=gfx27&D=HP+Slatebook+10+X2

however project shields actually runs in 720p

so it's 17-18fps from our side vs 22fps onscreen on T4

still still, without a heatsink and released half a year earlier we have to bow for what Adreno 320 is doing here

i expect with 4.2.2 + 450mhz we should score:

T-Rex HD: 18fps

Egypt HD: 44fps

This is a massive jump over the intial 31fps onscreen when the One was first released

we also have news of the GPU ability to cross 500mhz

so really for gamers and modders, you can't go wrong with the One for gaming

best speakers + best screen + damn good GPU

i dont see a reason for buying Shield beyond the remote capabilities and joypad
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Stuff Cool List 2013: How HTC designed the world’s most desirable phone
[One (M7) General] batna.antab:
I'd say more like windows phone ones, the pull down is not for notification but is a control panel with toggles.

To the guy with the beta could you please tell me how the 3d effect works?
[One (M7) General] jesr:
I don't get it either. Although Cortex A9 R4 found on T4i is said to deliver 2x the performance compared to the A9s found on T3. We have to wait for final products with T4i to draw final conclusions I guess.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
even the blurry multicolor background is typical HTC Sense

it's pretty clear to me Sense was one of the inspirations here, it's perfectly legit to be inspired

but it will be funny when we see iLovers acting superior when it was clearly inspired by the recent non iOS, OSes/Skins and nothing you will say will convince them, but to me it's pretty clear

HTC Sense 5 visual language is much less cluttered
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
We've got an Apple developer license at my workplace and have upgraded a 4S and a 5 today.

Naturally, being a beta and all, the UI stutters pretty badly, however apart from the disgusting icons the new layouts have grown on me.

The search pane is gone (to access it swipe the icons downwards from any page), the toggles are useful and getting to them is very intuitive, and I like the clearer font and cleaner UI in other places.

It's still boring, but definitely an improvement.

Edit: Maybe if there would have been an option to theme the icons to chroma tones it would be much better looking.
[One (M7) General] razer1224:
We have to happy atleast they have put up something on the table which is different from their past OS

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[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC prepping One Mini to challenge Samsung says Bloomberg
[One (M7) General] Xerro-Five:
I definitely am! I won't be buying an iPhone again until they make something exciting again (maybe never I guess...) but I'll thoroughly enjoy the many new features and look on my iPod touch and iPad :) I think the new UI looks very clean and modern, but most of all it's actually functional (finally)! That they had to copy to get there is no concern to me really. Anyone else think siri sounds kinda sexy in 7? Lol :p
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
iOS 7 borrows heavily from its competition, but should we care?
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
Still not real multitasking btw :). More like paused dynamic multitasking. True Real multitasking would be too much for the battery, it would eat it up lol
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
huh i though they switched to real, are you sure?
[One (M7) General] jmitr:
That is most definitely fake, pocketnow did a proper investigation instead of splashing it on their newsfeed.

The front screen is a different resolution from the phone meaning obvious Photoshop of a One SV

The watermark leads you to a site as a render from JANUARY when the tiara was first mentioned. The author of that site did not mean it to be accurate.

Because the Tiara showed up recently at the fcc, someone dug up a four month old picture and is trying to dupe everyone into thinking it is breaking news so they can chock up their site hits.

It's all pathetic really.

Now that that is out of the way, the One SV is a nice piece of hardware, HTC could easily recycle that design for an entry level windows phone.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
HTC Blog: Tips & Tricks for Using HTC Zoe

HTC Blog: Around the World with HTC One

HTC Blog: Create & Share Video Highlights with HTC Share
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]yyfuBhWbhtE[/YOUTUBE]

seems to confirm there is no way to open the device without destroying the plastic sides
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
They've implemented it well. Better than others? Well we'll have to see when the final version comes out. But moving onto the 'Real time' multitasking. It definitely does not have that as a full feature. That would mean all those apps would be running actively in the background forever until you close them or they automatically get disabled after a prolonged period.

Cached multitasking.

They probably have done it really well, that's why it'll be interesting to see reviews of the beta version of iOS7 and how it fairs on a daily basis.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
They do have proper multitasking on your most used apps. Ones you dont use often it freezes like before.

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Does anyone know how to get back to S-On if we S-OFF for repairs?
[One (M7) General] Trekest:
Damn :( ETraders are the folks I usually buy my parts from, than again I haven't seen any of their dissassembly videos.

When repairing my brother's Nexus 4 we used a video made by LE55ONS, highly professional with very clear instructions (and explanations instead of the annoying music).

Really looking forward to him having a crack at it.
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
We have reports on twitter that the 4.2.2 OTA will push tomorrow

https://mobile.twitter.com/HUB_Fr/status/344519182764892160/photo/1
[One (M7) General] horsetastic:
Come on! Lets hope it does. I am more then happy with Mike's stock 4.2.2 ROM but will defo go the full hog and RUU and update to total unrooted stock with the update. It's basically perfect for me :)
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Awesome! The HTC One is present in E3
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
And is it just me? Seems the 8x Adreno 225 is running Nova 3 in full effects and better performance than T3 on the One X

http://www.wpcentral.com/nova-3-hands-on?utm_source=wpc&utm_medium=twitter
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
Asphalt 8: Airborne official: new maps, physics and weather effects
[One (M7) General] hamdir:
[YOUTUBE]BE2EYLx2iiQ[/YOUTUBE]

http://blog.gameloft.com/index.php/2013/06/11/asphalt-8/
[One (M7) General] Rage1ofakind:
A reliable source when it comes to HTC > LlabtooFer told me that the info is correct and he stated the version number might be 2.18.401.1

Here's the link to his reply to my tweet: https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/344544252371533824
[One (M7) General] shox22:
Can anyone tell me how i can update to 4.2.2 tomorrow? I´m s-off and unlocked with stock rom and elemental kernel.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
It would be fun seeing Samsung / HTC / Blackberry / GOOGLE sue apple this time lol , especially samsung since apple hit them hard few times last year , and oddly somehow i got a feeling HTC And apple are somehow *working together* Anyway if they SUE apple this would nail them down for good.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Out of curiosity, how do you get back to S-On if necessary?

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HTC wouldnt sue apple thats silly since apple and HTC signed the patent deal.
[One (M7) General] ViDtje:
By flashing stock nandroid, or ruu. Using revone to lock bootloader (./revone-l) and then fastboot oem writesecureflag 3.
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Thank you very much for that reply! :)
[One (M7) General] py_martinez:
Hey guys, a lot ot no?

Almost 50 comments on ios 7 and ps4 this day on this thread, isn't it more than needed ? :what:

Envoyé depuis mon HTC One avec Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] mattman83:
No guarantee that it'll be tomorrow, and no guarantee that it'll be available for your CID. If you're on a euro unit you would be best setting CID to HTC__001 (two underscores) and flashing a stock *.*.401.* RUU and keep it all stock for the time being. You'll need to relock your bootloader too.

There's no kernel source yet for 4.2.2 as it hasn't actually shipped, so you'll want to be careful flashing custom kernels for the time being.

M.
[One (M7) General] Shan89:
Omg this is jaw dropping , can't wait to ley my hands on this ! :o LUV the weather effects and all the other crazy stuff :o

Edit:

This sounds nice as well , i'd love to see wether hox will be slower then One with sense 5 ^.^ I just hope it wont require Hboot update , if it does ima throw my HoX far far away since it'll most likely take 3 months to get to me on the f@cking 3 network >.<

Maybe i shouldn't care since i got me One finally .. but yet again i love my HoX same as One since it has viper X lol :P
[One (M7) General] ste1164:
Doesnt matter this goes OT eventually back to HTC as hamdir always asks it to so it does.