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[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Something I didn't see alot of reviews mention about phone slike the s3/n2 is death grip issues which I had with my phones and a couple of my mates s3s have the same problem. Another reason why reviews shouldn't always the be all end all when it comes to choosing a product.

Sony Xperia Z White

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Well my one X screen looked washy compared to my note 2 and even One S, i think that is generally normal LCD vs AMOLED.
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
Yeah amoled is just over saturated, comes at a loss to detail and is very unnatural but some people like it
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
The screen on the one s was awful very very blotchy, I really do not like AMOLED screens tbh. Have always prefered the screens on the one x and xperia s/t to the likes of the s3/n2. Though note 2 screen was miles better than s3.
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
@R89Sony

You stood in the store for three hours playing with the Xperia z?

Only took me 5 mins to be impressed and halfa to disregard the world around me and think about running away with it:p

@Saikyo_San

Go play with the zed/zee you'll let go of your Xperia s. Ive already given mine away once I receive xz
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
No never spend three hours at once three hours in 5 consecutive days lol, reason being is at the time there was still three weeks wait for the phone and I couldn't get enough of the phone. I too wanted to run away with it.
[Xperia Z General] ioki:
+another
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
@R89Sony

Ahhh haha okk okk okk

Thought you were crazy bout it lol
[Xperia Z General] ethan3686:
I just hope screen calibration is there in final units.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
If it's not I hope the likes of ambross could provide us a system dump of a Xperia Z with that setting so we could port it on upcoming firmwares and stuff.
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
I am crazy about it lol but not that crazy enough to stand in a shop for 3+ hours playing with it especially when its locked down to a table.
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
Why buy a phone that:

The screen, the battery and call quality are worse than your competitors?

Sony xperia z is just a cute phone that is water proof and dust.

It is not I who am saying .... several reviews of famous sites have been disappointed with the phone.

Naturally the people who already bought the xperia z vain to want to defend your purchase.

But the truth is that the xperia z can not be better than its competitors.
[Xperia Z General] :
Will you go away, ain't seen one review other than iPhonearena that's spoken bad about the phone. All the others are well positive. Troll!
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
Util you point to several reviews of famous sites that are disappointed it is you that is saying this.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Excuse me? There is absolutely nothing wrong with the call quality, display or battery. I've had quite some time with a production quality device now and it's all very good. You even have an equalizer to adjust the sound of phone calls to your preferences. Battery life has been great for me too, getting through the day leaves me at around 50% when I get home where the S and T usually left me with around 20%.

The display might not have a contrast as deep as the competition and the viewing angles might be a little less wide but man it is wonderful to look at. The colours are vibrant and natural, interfaces and text look extremely crisp and it's all easy to use even in bright sunlight.

The camera isn't all that bad either. There is a little too much noise reduction but low-light images and videos look great and are nice and sharp. People seem to be forgetting that we're talking about phones here. You don't look at them zoomed in at 100%, especially not on low-DPI PC monitors. When comparing them with 8MP shooters you should first resize the images from the Z to something similar in pixel count with Photoshop or something. Then you'll notice the Z does just fine.

The main selling points for the camera are some unique features you can't find with the competition: extreme speed (full-res burst) and true HDR video. Then add the excellent and versatile camera UI and you actually end up with a camera that probably is the best on the market, depending on what you value more. I personally love how great simple snapshots look no matter what situation I'm in. Or being able to use burst to capture just the exact right moment. I wouldn't trade those things for a little less noise/noise reduction if I could. You have dedicated cameras with larger sensors for that.
[Xperia Z General] lloydbf:
Check out this Samsung viral ghost.
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
The phone is not bad. Simply the best phones out there

I just said is lower than galaxy s3 and iphone 5 in

Camera

screen

Call quality

Battery.

Complaints are on this same forum ...
[Xperia Z General] :
You are a troll, 1080p with 441ppi will smash the iPhone 5 and s3 screens. Don't kid yourself. It's a scientific fact not an opinion.
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Totally disagree regarding camera, screen. call quality and from what I have been hearing about battery life.

Cant believe you think the screen on the s3 of all phones is better with its nasty blotchy pentile screen.
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
then why complain that the screen is washed angle of vision and poor?
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
BECAUSE everyone is SPECULATING about DEMO UNITS, so called prototypes, which have INFERIOR screens to the PRODUCTION DEVICES,

SONY did NOT want to spend loads of $$$ on devices which they will be taking back and destroying,

IF searched SO-02E on you tube you will notice the production units to have excellent screens!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Really, bore off if you cannot provide evidence or give us links to what you say..... Getting a bored of these trolls now!
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
phonearena.com
[Xperia Z General] :
Fixed it for you.
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
you mean where they say:

"Sony has done a wonderful job with the design of this phone. It could, of course, be even better, but we still see it as superior to what most of the other companies are currently doing with their flagship handsets. "

also you point to one review out of nearly 20, while everybody agrees that the screen is not the best; not a single one would choose the Samsuck S3 over the Z.
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
I actually compared a production unit ZL to the One X's screen. Please see below for a screen comparison.
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
gsmarena.com - first page (main disadvantages)

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887.php

phonearena.com

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z-Review_id3247

GSMArena and PhoneArena sony haters also ?
[Xperia Z General] stefanve:
Pro tip: don't like it don't buy it
[Xperia Z General] rapha.194:
The only good thing is its resolution which is now becoming the norm for 2013.

So there is nothing really special.

colors washed

Angles of poor vision

contrast bad

Info taken from

PhoneArena. with

gsmarena.com

users of that forum xda / sony xperiaZ (yeah ! same of you)

but I'm thinking of buying xperia z to be my secondary camera on diving course

and to beautify my bookshelf

after all was their main focus
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
I know what really pi$$ed me off was about the display review in GSM ARENA, no values for the 50% brightness test,

speaking to xiFIL the screen can be really bright on the Z, GSM arena also mentioned it does quite good in sunlight legibility, this is why it loses its contrast, we already know it loses contrast over 70% and switches to some sort of outdoor mode and GSM Arenas contrast was based on 100% and the omitted the 50% values
[Xperia Z General] Gitaroo:
they both seems to like it, why are they haters, ppl only look at the cons of all Sony devices now? Sony has to get a 100% where every other companies only need 80% for a pass?
[Xperia Z General] hndr_haryanto:
‘Make Magic’ promo videos from Sony Mobile Japan.
[Xperia Z General] alicepattinson:
Definitely YES! still getting it :)
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Really, GSM doesn't state about poor call quality on front page, and only lists battery as disadvantage because it's sealed.

If you have read both reviews you will read that those negative points actually aren't that bad...

Go and have a hands on one when it's out, then come back to us.
[Xperia Z General] emorej:
getting it no matter what..every device has their weakness nothing is perfect. But XZ is beautiful does not look like a toy UI is not cartoony and color too. Goodbye to my plasticky S3
[Xperia Z General] cheltenham2004:
Still getting it from clove :)
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
This is what I mean above subjective reviews, GSM arena states call quality is good, while PA says its bad. I tried it out myself yesterday and I think its good also more than loud enough and clear, despite the speaker being covered by the metal holders that secure the phone to the table, I also think the speaker is loud enough, not the loudest but it is far better than the one on the xperia which was really bad but according to gsm arena the speaker on the T is better.

I have now seen all the review round ups and had hands on with the phone myself and am totally glad I pre ordered my xperia z.
[Xperia Z General] nasty159:
I tested one out today in local store.

Great device I loved it. Two things I didn't like.

1. Menu was washed out...however when watching movies and viewing pictures colour was improved (I am guessing because the bravia engine 2 kicks in)

2. Loudspeaker on the phone was TERRIBLE. Could hardly hear it. I hope there will be a mod allowing it to be amplified a bit because it is way too low.
[Xperia Z General] TheKingOfPain:
Is the loudspeaker always low (ringing tone, Walkman app), or only during calls?
[Xperia Z General] Jiyeon90:
another water test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGQEuCniEwc
[Xperia Z General] Maedhros:
Hello, I did a side by side comparison of the ZL and the HTC One X, and I can confirm what phone arena states about the screen, it is inferior to HTCs offering. However, when you use it without comparing it to any other phone on the market it is adequate.
[Xperia Z General] Timaustin2000:
I've gotta admit: after the Phonearena review, I nearly bottled it. Camera is one of the main selling points of a phone, to me. The notion that it was lagging behind others gave me cold sweats,....

Then I actually did a proper comparison, saving stills from PA and GSM to my PC and cropping them to the same levels and split screening them.

Basically, PA's analysis of the camera is bollocks, as far as I can see. There is a slight softness to ultra-fine detail, sure, but the camera is ALSO picking up more detail generally, due to the higher resolution. If you zoom images taken by an iphone or GS3 to the same relative crop (IE, so that objects are the same size on screen) they pixelate at the same depth as a 100% crop on the XZ.

I also prefer the white balance and exposure on the XZ by quite a margin, and the night shots are far superior (less noise, more detail, better colour reproduction). It makes me wonder what PA were smoking when they wrote up their comparisons. It's not the "next-gen" amaze-balls camera that Sony were hyping but it's still very good.

On the screen, I've spent quite some time annoying people in 3 stores and Phones4U to see for myself. When viewing photos and video on the screen, it's brilliant - nicely balanced, great detail, punchy colours, when needed. Otherwise, it's perfectly fine. No, it won't win any awards but neither was I left reeling with a feeling of loss or disappointment. Indeed, the phone's first OTA software upgrade is due to deliver screen calibration settings, allowing you to boost saturation. I'll probably do that.

Viewing angles weren't great, no, but neither were they a major problem - honestly, that's a fuss over nothing.

I feel re-assured. The build, speed and ruggedness of the phone, along with it's good camera and great viewing experience when watching content, have re-sold it to me. And, having enjoyed great audio from my Xperia S (and getting the free premium headphones with my pre-order) I'm looking forward to a fantastic music-listening experience, too.

Don't go throwing the baby out with the bath water, peeps.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
I used to be a sucker on viewing angles, but then i thought about it long and hard, if the viewing angles arent good then it won't really bother me, i do look at it head one or just about headon, and its fine, more privacy for me, no need for people in the next seat to read my messages
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Thanks for your opinion, tbh my HTC One X had and still has an amazing screen....it was just let down by lack of sd card, poor battery life, slow updates and laggy phone....if HTC solved all these then they will do well but I can't see the new HTC being any better than the XZ.
[Xperia Z General] Ashalak:
I bobbed into my local Phones4U today (Bolton) but unfortunately there wasn't an available handset on demo, thankfully however I could cross over the road and hit the Three store (For the second time this week!)

I had another play with the device, and as stated the viewing angles aren't great but that really is where I feel the weakest of the display's characteristics lies.. And as already pointed out, why or how does that matter?

With regards to images and video IMO the display looks 90% as good as any non amoled based screen in terms of colour saturation and contrast.. If I was cheeky enough to whip out my One X and do a side by side comparison then that statement may be a little different, but if your happy with a display for what it is then why should you criticize for what it isn't? The issue is when your either not watching a video, or an image from gallery where the BE2 engine is active (The home screens/app drawer/menu etc) then the display looks weak, but if you just sit and look at the reason why you will soon realise the majority of that weak looking display is purely the translucent grey skin which Sony have used on their UI for everything! Load Chrome up and browse some website and you'll soon realise that the display is good and the colours are vibrant! The other thing that's constantly been overlooked with regards to the display is just how effing sharp it is! Many people have criticised the display with regards to contrast and saturation, but failed to praise just how awesome it renders images and text, so how can you say the display is crap when inherently it's better at something than any other device on the market? :rolleyes:

Bottom line, the display could be better.. But is it bad? No. Is it worse than any other display on any other phone? No - Not in my opinion, it hasn't got the contrast and colour saturation IN SOME INSTANCES, but it's sharper than anything else out there which IMO makes up and deficit. The trolls can hate on the display all they want, it's still an awesome display and it's on a device which IMO is ultimately far nicer than anything else out there at the moment.

From what I've seen on the camera it looks good and I completely agree with what Timaustin2000 said earlier about the image size on a 13mp capture.. Personally if I take images on my phone I usually view them on my phone, and I know that when they're cropped on that screen with the BE2 engine on that the images will look phenomenal. If I'm using an image for something to upload, I'll always crop and sharpen it anyway in PS and again based on what I've seen/played with, the images will look the business. Ultimately though, I rarely use my phone's camera so it's really not a deal breaker for me.. As long as it's better than my One X which it certainly appears to be. :)
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
How would you compare the display on your Xperia S to that of the Z? Reason I ask is, I currently have the S but have not laid eyes on the Z in the flesh at the moment, and would like to know if the screen is noticeably better than that of the S.

Cheers
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
Just can't wait for it to come out, I've watched at least 5 hours of vids and read about 20 reviews :) This is going to be my first phone change in 8 years, my first Android and I'm pumped.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
It is better. Viewing angles are much better, blacks look deeper (yes, they really do) and colours are a bit more balanced. The Xperia S lacks some depth for blues and has a little bit too much red and green (causing it to be a bit yellowish). The Xperia Z is a lot more balanced.

I've done numerous side-by-sides with Bravia Engine on and off.
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
That's good to know. Thanks.
[Xperia Z General] techguyone:
To be honest, this is concerning me more than the screen. Has any other owners got an opinion on the sound volume/quality
[Xperia Z General] marcgear:
I have read every review i can find seen it in the shops and must say IMO it is the best phone at the time of me needing to purchase a new one. All phones and every other purchase in fact is not perfect if it was we would never need to move forward. For me its a big upgrade from my last im more than happy. A little disappointed about internal speaker volume as i use that a lot however im getting a free speaker with my phone so cant complain.
[Xperia Z General] Super Chimp:
Aside from trying a 920 the problem is I am coming from a GS3 & that sets the bar pretty high as far as phones are concerned so my next phone has to surpass that level and I am not sure the Xperia Z does.
[Xperia Z General] decentgi:
reviews

its so funny listening to phonearena review on htc one when at the end he made a comment about the camera quality saying the the device is a pre production device and that final release will be better, but also finished of by saying that it was the best camera to date that they have reviewed on smart phone.

anyone who has seen sample shots of the htc and xperia z will tell you that you dont have to have half a brain to see that sony is far better cam than htc but also didnt extend that same courtesy to sony when he reviewed the xperia z, regarding the pre production unit.

its so obvious that you have a few reviewers that are bias and there reviews should not be taken seriously
[Xperia Z General] schrickm5:
I will wait until I can physically test both phones (HTC One and the EZ). I am drawn to the One right now (h/w, screen and sound).... But the Z is unbelievably beautiful and will have better development support by Sony.....

I don't really care what Samsung bring to the table.... I've had a Galaxy phone for far too long. Time to change.
[Xperia Z General] xX NeOnShK Xx:
All the reviews are so polarized that it is useless reading them. Some say camera is awesome, battery life 1.5 days, gorgeous screen while others heavily criticize the same. Its best to try out the phone and see for yourself.
[Xperia Z General] xchasa:
For anyone worried about speaker volume and clarity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGxIlTsiUiM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

I no longer am;)
[Xperia Z General] vicedens2002:
Can you tell more about he ZL. I will be buying it.. how's the display when looking straight on ? I don't care about viewing angles...
[Xperia Z General] iujona:
Display is fine. Don't listen to the nitpickers
[Xperia Z General] decentgi:
the samsung galazy s 3 is a terrible device spec wise its decent but come on sounds to me you like watching cartoons, if you like looking at the samsung screen than sony xperia z screen is not for you.

plus the sony xperia z screen is for big boys why dont you came back to reality and start being a big boy lol and get over your cartoon faze lol.

Someone made an excellent point about the screen and purchasing items using online shopping , dont expect to see the correct colour representation of what ever item your purchasing if your using the samsung s 3. if you want the most true to life experience get the z that is what sony was going after anyway with this handset
[Xperia Z General] Super Chimp:
I always found the S3 screen rather dull even when playing around with the settings.
[Xperia Z General] Akiainavas:
Does anybody still take phonearena reviews seriously ? Come on guys, read them for a while - you'll notice so many bs, contradictions and bias - it's not even funny anymore. Sometimes i get the feeling they're not really testing those devices because they often state things that are completely wrong ( like HTC One's camera being "the best" when in fact it makes worse photos than the original HTC One ) etc.
[Xperia Z General] SonicFlare:
Xperia ZX by form factor is similar to my current device HTC Dell Venue Pro, and Sony has been very open with developer community, releasing all the ROM's and providing boot unlocker. Now, who else do that?

Compared to HTC One, I don't like the big brick devices :D And HTC does not have a card slot, which is big downer.

The 0.2 GHz downside of Z, is compensated by the other phone features. Its not the big downer, imho
[Xperia Z General] nasty159:
It's not just a 0.2GHz increase in processor you know... it is a new processor. XZ is using last year's processor in this years phone. While the S400 is very similar to the S4 Pro in the Xperia Z it still smashes it in benchmarks.
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Just because a car out there is faster than mine does not mean there is anything in mine.
[Xperia Z General] nasty159:
That kinda made no sense. But I was just making a point to the other bloke who was saying the only difference is a .2GHZ increase when actually it is a whole new cpu.
[Xperia Z General] itsmemuffins:
Phone arrived this morning and now it's back in its box ready to go back.

Yuck, what was Sony thinking with that screen. Looks like the screen from the Htc Titan only difference is the resolution.
[Xperia Z General] futurama:
Did you use it long enough to play with the settings.

I can't prove this but I have noticed the screen improve over the week I have had it, and I came from a note 2 yet I have no issue with the XZ screen. I always found the amoled screens over saturated anyway, photos were so unnatural
[Xperia Z General] itsmemuffins:
There s nothing that can improve. It's like a cheap tn panel.
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
Dont think you did get the phone today, think your chatting bs and trolling
[Xperia Z General] andrew_wang916:
I'm in serious dilemma

Seriously, after seeing so many reviews on many websites, up to 80++ videos and hundred/thousand of comments/threads/reply all over the internet. It really make me in serious dilemma.

I been in LOVE with this phone when it leak out in news, the designs and UI are beautiful,with 5inch FULL HD display and 13mp exmor RS sensor with 2330mah.

From most of reviews and feedback of the Xperia Z owners, I do come out with some points.

Which battery life is decent with 4-5hours screen on, which is quite fair for 5inch Full HD TFT screen.

What back me off are :

1) the 13mp camera, still taking overcompressing pics which might degrade the pics quality?:confused:

as what they did on others' Xperia phones before. But yet some say is decent, some say is below par with S3 and Htc One X.

If rooting can gain access for decreasing the compression rate by the camera and take better quality pics, it would be nice. :laugh:

2) the display might not as good as others like S3, HTC butterfly interm of view angle as it's only TFT. The colors appearances might be vary depends on people's taste, so hoping there's a display callibration tools to be release by Sony or developers if possible, then it would be Excellent. :p:p

And last, which only concern for me is, whether my telco is going to release this Z bundle with dock or NFC speaker, or at least avaiable to be sell when the Z release.

Add-up : I also heard that there are many suffer of deadpixel on this phone which quite a lots as I seen in this forum, aiks. ><

I really want to get a non-defected XZ. what to do.

Might just go to the telco shop and close my eye to pay for XZ. ROAR !!!