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[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Major Breakthrough! (no more notification)

A few days ago cb56 mentioned that setting the notification icon to a value of 0 would not show the notification, and keep the service in the foreground. So I tried this, not believing it would work - and BAM! It works! There is NO notification, and the service has not been killed by Android.

So, I am

in need of testers

!

The latest development Sidebar Lite apk is attached (version 3.2.0.0, not even released to Google Play yet).

Please download it, and see if the service dies or not over time.

- Put tons of stress on the system (play a game) and see if sidebar still comes out.

- Put the phone to sleep (lock) and pick it up an hour or so later and see if Sidebar is still running.

This is exciting stuff, and I need your help to make it happen. Thank you cb56 for this awesome workaround. Thank you all!
[Android Apps and Games] jdstrydom:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

You owe him. Seems great so far. Great stuff

Edit : stays active. :) thanks dev and cb56
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Yeah, he needs a copy of free Pro immediately. ;)

Thanks a lot cb56!!!
[Android Apps and Games] athdaraxen:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I don't know if you remember a few pages back when I said I had trouble with the service staying open and the bar getting killed?

This new one doesn't die. XD
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
App Selector now has a little settings icon. Since, there may never be a notification again for Sidebar.
[Android Apps and Games] schnuti:
Would love to beta test, but i do not want to loose my settings by installing the light version....

cant wait for the update!

Go for it!!!
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
The Lite version's settings don't interfere with Pro, they are different apps that just look the same ;), but anyway...

I think the service stopped once. I'm not sure if I pressed Off in settings and forgot to turn it on, but I'm going to keep an eye on it.
[Android Apps and Games] grrog:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I have one problem with this one.

In task manager in jb 4.1.2, clear ram memory kill sidebar too...

another +1.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Seems that Sidebar dies after a while with the notification hack. That sucks!

I'm not releasing until I have this thoroughly tested.
[Android Apps and Games] f.us:
Thx, you did it.

Now I can access settings via app icon in the app drawer to edit my sidebar.

Sidebar is perfect, for me at least...

I'm able to disable the notification on 4.2.2 over app drawer -> settings -> apps -> sidebar ->

uncheck

Show notifications.

So, this addition makes it perfect.

Sidebar runs and runs and runs...

Great work!

Note:Running the current Play Store version!
[Android Apps and Games] chronicfathead:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Agree. I could kill the side bat by running several games and several video streaming apps. Tried it twice, and I killed it twice within two minutes.

Kindle Fire 2, 1GB ram, 4.2.2, aggressive men free settings via ROM Toolbox.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Yup, that's a killer. Looks like there is no way around this dumb notification. Oh well, ratings are high enough - so people have no issues.

:good:
[Android Apps and Games] pokey:
On Google Play the "What's New" for Sidebar Pro says "Tabbed App Drawer" introduced. Now I have Pro, & I can't see how to create Tabs ... how does it work?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Oh haha, tabbed means there are two tabs, apps and widgets. It's not like you can create tabs. Sorry about that.
[Android Apps and Games] Freak07:
Hey,

really enjoy your app. makes life a lot easier.

however, i followed the discussion about the notification which has to be displayed in order to not kill the app while phone is running. and then lmt launcher came to my mind. i use it together with your app.

there you can set an activation area on the edge of the screen to bring the "pie" up. an interface to get access, in every app, to certain apps you can predefine in the launcher´s control. works similar to yours. however there is no notification and the app got never killed. at least not for me.

maybe you can ask them how they did it? just a suggestion as xda is a community and is about sharing and helping others.

here the link to the thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1330150

but this is already a very good app. and i have no problem with the notification since in 4.2.2 you can hide it but i thought maybe this could help you.

regards
[Android Apps and Games] cb56:
You have to trust, maybe the problem is another.

This evening I send parameters that I use to create the notification for a verification.

cb56
[Android Apps and Games] pokey:
Oh ... Lite says "Tabbed App Selector", Pro say "App Drawer" ... that's why I bought it. No App Drawer Tabs means no interest to me. Is it possible to get a refund?
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
LOL. I dunno, ask Google. I never buy apps myself so I don't know. I'll go fix the description.
[Android Apps and Games] gkaravid:
Try not to overdo it

Hey man, just a little reminder,

I really like this app and I'm using it everyday now, since I bought it. It's great and I love all the updates you've done with hard work and effort. I also appreciate a lot your continuous support and new stuff you're putting into this, but take a small reminder from me, don't overdo it, it's good to have all this new stuff and from what I read in here I see that people are asking more and more for new things, but remember that this app is great also because it doesn't consume too much memory. (9mb for me at this moment)

It is still like this and I would like to keep it like this, don't cross the limit performance/usability-looks, after all simple things are always better, no?

Thanks for all your hard work and for hearing our opinions, problems and ideas.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Exactly! I can't agree with you enough..

Bottom line: The top priority is that Sidebar NEEDS to stay simple and easy to use. Otherwise, that defeats the whole purpose. The art of development is keeping things simple and managing to still fit in amazing features, but not overdo it as you said.

Well said. Cheers!
[Android Apps and Games] korbi:
Herr

+1 for that. The notification for me is a big negative aspect and if there would be a way around it it would be great :)
[Android Apps and Games] Raverlook:
Wow.. This Apps make my android be easier to change the applications
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Unfortunately, there is no way around it. Foreground services require a notification and under no circumstances can it be removed. I've tried everything.
[Android Apps and Games] korbi:
But how does LMT Launcher do it? There is no Notification and its allways available.
[Android Apps and Games] jazzboyrules:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

May be it's because LMT has root access?
[Android Apps and Games] SwiftLegend:
Can't you just: Settings > Apps > Sidebar > Uncheck "Show Notifications" ? I did that on another one of these sidebar tray apps and it worked fine.
[Android Apps and Games] cb56:
I think the root does not has nothing to do with this.

This works only on new Android versions. For those using older versions would be nice to be able to remove the notification

cb56
[Android Apps and Games] Winesnob:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Bug report: when I reboot the device, sidebar opens and remains visible. The only thing that will hide it is to open settings-apps and force close Sidebar. Once I open the app again it works normally.
[Android Apps and Games] athdaraxen:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I'm having this too!
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Whoa! Okay, what version? Lite or Pro?

EDIT: Just tried it on my friend's Galaxy Nexus and it opened and closed itself like its supposed to.
[Android Apps and Games] Winesnob:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I'm using pro, stock 4.2.2 on GNex.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Tested it just now on my friend's Galaxy Nexus with stock 4.2.2 and running the latest Sidebar Pro.

It works just fine! The hand comes out after boot, opens the sidebar, and the sidebar closes itself.

What are you experiencing?
[Android Apps and Games] Winesnob:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

The sidebar never closes.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
How have you configured the app? It may have to do with some weird combination of configurations. Please use TitaniumBackup to backup Sidebar Pro (app+data), and share the backup with me. PM me the link when you are done and I'll get it figured out. It's 3 files btw.
[Android Apps and Games] Winesnob:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I don't think TiBu will work since my GNex isn't rooted (by choice). I do have notifications turned off in the app settings, but not sure why that would make a difference at boot.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Wow, thanks :) That means a lot. I do it for fun - plus this week there is no school. Vibration toggle in free version? Nopppe >.<
[Android Apps and Games] gsrrr:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Looks great. Maybe this is in the pro version but I'd love the ability to drag and drop to rearrange the icons.

Edit. Also can the notification icon be removed? It's affecting the weather notifications and preventing the forecast from showing up.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
UPDATE 2.0

UPDATE 2.0 for both Pro and Lite!

Sidebar Pro:

Sidebar Lite:
[Android Apps and Games] venkatp:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Well, hope you'll drive more people to buy your app by keeping it just for paid version ;). But have an option to remove the notification icon. That might have a negative effect for an app that's just launched. People look for negative points more than positives. Remember, there are alternative apps too.

I'm giving feedback as I'm an app reviewer for an android blog. Don't take me wrong :)
[Android Apps and Games] ezechiele25172012:
Hi, when do you'll release next version?

thanks
[Android Apps and Games] aliaskari:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

most people dont even know about this app which makes me really sad .. they r talking about swapp apps but this is seriously better in everyway ...

im using asylum and i posted the link to this thread there so people get to know about this app and start downloading and start supporting this app and the dev of this app.!

:thumbup:

Sent from Asylumized GT-N7000
[Android Apps and Games] teschall:
Awesome app...just purchased the pro version. I would love to see icon theme support as well as shortcut support. Using an app like popup widget will make this app SO amazing.

Thanks for making it.
[Android Apps and Games] kertis:
Great app! In my opinion you should think about:

modularity, because now some features are useless for some users (i.e. *for me* toggle wifi etc. is useless, because the same functionality is in touchwiz),

option to remove notification (with special toggle option for rooted devices, so app can stay in memory without notification and icon),

ability to set height, and position (i.e. number of pixels from top),

separate widget to show sidebar on/off. I think it could be easier to me to tap a icon and then your sidebar appears, tap again (when bar is visible) and bar hides.

ability to show configuration options in some other place,

option to block sidebar icons (I removed accidentally icons from sidebar), when sidebar is blocked plus icon is hidden.

Overall: great app!
[Android Apps and Games] noooooo:
Is possible to add a feature that make is function similar to recents app?

I mean, let seeing only the active app and swiping them we close them? sorry for my bad english :p
[Android Apps and Games] ruvort:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

That is a great idea. This app would make a very attractive replacement for the stock recent apps menu.
[Android Apps and Games] SJ3316:
Lite version not for Samsung Y

Hi, I want to test this app, but in the store show me just the pro, the lite say it's not compatible.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Great suggestions guys. You guys are the real devs behind this app.

So let's talk about the suggested features and why they don't exist just yet.

1. Notification removal: Unfortunately android requires a notification otherwise the app is killed later on. Ill still add an option and have a popup that says do this at your own risk.

2. Recent apps: How would that be implemented? You've got your pinned apps, all stacked in a nice column. But where would these recent apps fit in?
[Android Apps and Games] ruvort:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Perhaps have the ability of recent apps mode in place of pinned apps? I could throw an example together later today if I have time. It's just a thought though but I do appreciate you seriously considering our suggestions and ideas :)
[Android Apps and Games] morruk:
AW: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

hey guys, just wanna share my workaround for the notification icon ;)

I'm rooted an locked sidebar so it can't be closed by the system - to disable the notification go to app settings and untic the notification option for sidebar (see top left on the screenshot).

its as simple as that ;)

this method also works for other apps which have a persistent notification..

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9300
[Android Apps and Games] athdaraxen:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

What if for Recent Apps you have an icon called Recent Apps and when clicked it would remove pinned icons and switch to Recent Apps.

Then have this button change to Pinned Apps so all you have to do is click the one icon to switch between them?
[Android Apps and Games] jolas:
I purchased pro version a couple of hours ago and I like it a lot.

- I want to report a little misbehavior I noticed; sometimes when I select a shortcut, there is a lag of 3-4 secs before the application opens.

-Also, is it possible please, to have an option to reduce the height of the gesture area and also to have the option to remove the "+" sign from the shortcuts bar?

-I wanted also to ask for the notification icon, but it was managed by morruk's tip. :D :good:
[Android Apps and Games] chronicfathead:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Just about to buy Pro after playing for 5 minutes. I have tried most of the other side launchers for days, but yours is smooth and I would say the best.

Volume would be good, as I'm on a Kindle Fire, without volume buttons.

Recents would also be nice. It would replicate the recent function in JB ROMs , but it could 'feel' better to open the side launcher, and then tap a button to flip over the list to show recent apps.
[Android Apps and Games] BigJeff:
For the "recent app" idea, I think it should by default show running applications alongside the favorite apps, however the running apps have some sort of indication that they're running. Perhaps a colored (white) border around the perimeter of the icon. You then swipe the icon away much like default android, accept this is all one application! Just a suggestion.
[Android Apps and Games] XtremeAaron:
Beautiful app! It runs great for me so far after using it for a few days. I have a few suggestions/requests, some of which have been gone over im sure but here goes.

Notification icon

: I hate stuck icons, not sure what you can do since the app may terminate without it, but maybe making an option to just be transparent? I say this because when I do a quick glance at my phone while say at work I see something in the notification bar thinking its a email or text.

Rearrange Icons

: Id love to rearrange the icons. On the weekends I may want a certain app at the top but during the week I may want some apps for work at the top. Would be great to quickly be able to long press and move they're positions.

Custom Icons

: Support for custom icons would be great. Then the user could really tie it in with the theme of they're phone.

Swipe Location

: I too go to type Q and it wont register unless im really close to the W. I think you said you were going to try to do something to the function to remedy this though.

Lots of Options

: I loved LauncherPro for example because it gave me control of how the app looked and functioned. Being able to do the same here would be great!

Overall, I love it! Great work! Ill be buying Pro soon to help support your work!
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
I'm overwhelmed with all the support (in a good way ofcourse) Thanks a ton guys.

Recent Apps:

Okay, looks like this recent apps feature has to be included somehow, everyone's wanting it. The reason behind it not being there already is that usually recent apps are the ones that are pinned to the sidebar anyway, plus there is already a recent apps BUTTON on nexus devices and most phones (long press home). So it is extremely redundant in a way...

But here's an idea - what if (assuming there is some way to initiate this), the pinned icons flip over (animated gradually down) and show the running apps? Then you can swype those away to clear it or tap on it to open it...idk seems like a great addition but a lot of work because I dont know if that's even easily implementable. But okay, I'll keep recent apps in mind.

Rearranging Icons

Obviously there is some easy way to do this that I don't know of. Guess I'm not that familiar with Android dev to that level just yet. It'll get there someday I'm sure.

Notification Removal

See above posts - kinda tired of repeating

Swipe Location

Implementing that soon. It's going to be far more customizable.

Sound Widget

Sure, no prob. Expect it in the next update.
[Android Apps and Games] jdstrydom:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Can't we use zeppelinrox v6 supercharger script to make the sidebar hard to kill or die-hard by modifying the OOM grouping of sidebar?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=12058585
[Android Apps and Games] athdaraxen:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

FI GPro, basically when I reboot my phone the sidebar starts like it supposed to except it just stays open, you can click anywhere, and it just stays but it only happened while I had you test Lite version installed. The Pro bar was doing it though, your test Sidebar is still working better for me as it doesn't randomly close. Just now I opened it(Pro) to switch to something and it closed itself. Your test bar doesn't have this issue. Yes it still closes if not used after about 30 mins of me not using my phone (I think that is an Android thing, which I have bumped to 24 hours using V6 supercharger script) so I'll continue to test and see how it goes.

Also thought on notification, I also use an app called Llama, it has a setting where it completely kills the icon (no invisible icon to my knowledge) but leaves a notification in the drawer, I never have an issue with it closes, maybe looking at it will help?

EDIT: Currently, Lite (test version) will now not stay open. It only stays up for a few seconds then disappears but I think that it's something I my end, gonna try something and report back. So far Pro version is good.

EDit: (I'm done after this for now lol)

Ok Lite bar will now not stay open for more than 30 secs. Pro bar I'm now watchong and waiting, will report back later on the subject!

Sorry for the text wall, just trying to provide as much info as I can as I wanna help!
[Android Apps and Games] f.us:
Maybe you can use Carbon for backing up app and app data ?

Should work w/o being rooted.

It's worth a try
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
That's definitely something on your end. I have so thoroughly tested Sidebar accross such an immense variety of devices and never had issues of it closing or not docking properly. What device and what ROM do you run?

Wouldn't that only apply to ROMs that have Supercharger installed?

This is XDA, so it's like kinda recommended that you root your device xD I don't see why anyone wouldn't.
[Android Apps and Games] ruvort:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Agreed. It would be like taking your windows PC and creating an account without admin privileges and then using that account... no offense meant btw :)

Huge Wallpaper Collection
[Android Apps and Games] Winesnob:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

XDA is not an exclusive place for rooted device owners to chat, it's a forum to gain insight into how our devices work and keep up on the latest. It's a personal choice to root or not. My Xoom has root ONLY because it was dropped from AOSP after 4.1.2 and I wanted to keep moving forward. I have found very little advantage to rooting in general, based on how I use my devices. This is off topic and I won't discuss any further on an otherwise very helpful thread about a very helpful app.
[Android Apps and Games] aLNG:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Not root in xda is like virgin in college or high schools :)
[Android Apps and Games] athdaraxen:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I'm on a Samsung Captivate running Slim bean 4.2.2, I had the issue with the Pro randomly closing on 4.2.1 as well. Though I will say so far so good (before I did all this I ran the V6 Supercharger and changed androids "kill stuff every 30 mins" to 24hrs. It's hard for me to explain as I'm still learning all the terminology, I apologize for my lack of knowledge). So far running a little over an hour without turning off.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

Lolwut thats a good thing. Would suck to tell your future wife that you've been with other women.

Aannnyyyyywaayyy, I'm gonna implement sorting method sometime soon. Or at least try to.
[Android Apps and Games] cb56:
For people who do not want to use the physical key to return to the Home until and if Mohammad_Adib will produce a widget:

you can install this little app attached and insert it in Sidebar.

It 's very useful for those who use large screen devices (eg Galaxy Note II), have very small hands and would like to use only one... :rolleyes:

http://cb56developer.blogspot.com/

thanks

cb56
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
Uh, I dont see why anyone would need a home or back button widget when the phone itself has the buttons.
[Android Apps and Games] cb56:
Many people do not like the physical key, and are waiting for Samsung take it off ... although they will not do it because of the voice commands...

cb56
[Android Apps and Games] JAG50:
Re: [APP][2.1+] Sidebar - A brilliant new way of multitasking on Android.

I saw the title of the thread and had to check it out. Having a side bar to open tasks in not multi-tasking. Sorry. Multi-tasking is being able to open two or more apps at the same time on the same window and being able to drag data to/from

each other. Closest thing we have to this is sac23's chemistry version six.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2088508.
[Android Apps and Games] Mohammad_Adib:
The world's perfect phone would be an enlarged Nexus 4 with a 5 inch 1080p display, with a new Qualcomm 800 SoC. Oh, and 3100mah Battery. Please google, drop some bank on this, I would drop major bank on a phone like that. Like I'd pay > 1000 just for that.