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[Android General] dubazar:
Umi has made a first phone Umi x1 that has been a best seller with good buyers feedbacks and quick os update. Iocean is more unknown brand. On hardware, the 2 phones have the same specifications except the screen resolution which is better on umi x2 (1080 against 720 for iocean). Be careful iocean has released a "youth version" that has less ram (1go against 2 go).

PS: I forgot the battery capacity is better on iocean (3000mh vs 2500mh).

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[Android General] 450819927@qq.com:
2G	GSM 850/900/1800/1900

3G	WCDMA 900/1900/2100

but I'm not sure.

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Sounds like UMI X2 is better.
[Android General] dubazar:
I think too...

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[Android General] Jose_dias:
there's no news about official date?
[Android General] MGREX:
I thought the locean had a 1080 screen, a 720 unit is even better for me and that explains the 12k antutu results, same as the jiayu. The umi is going to take a hit from that screen, like 6577 phones did with 720 screens.

Nova3 was unplayable on the g3 but ran okay on a g2s
[Android General] dubazar:
On this video we can see a short review of umi x2 and now we know the antutu score that is 11554.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KFZJV_KC3o&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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[Android General] Whyzor:
The Iocean X7 is also 5" 1080p display. Only difference is 1 GB RAM, 8 MP camera, and 2000 mAH battery in youth version compared to 2 GB RAM, 13 MP camera, and 3000 mAh battery on regular version (similar to UMI X2). It looks like the UMI X2 is a bit chunkier in the video above than the X7. UMI has a bit more experience making Android phones (only slightly), so they feel like they can charge a higher price for basically the same specs. Iocean is newer, so has to have lower price to attract customers. They have to prove their Android phones have few hardware & software problems.

Also noticed X7 had Android 4.2.1 in the video and X2 has 4.1.2 and redundant virtual buttons and capacitive buttons, these are indications UMI engineers are not as ahead of the game as the Iocean ones.
[Android General] Jose_dias:
can´t wait
[Android General] nathanzahra:
There is this particular rumor being passed around regarding the delay of the MTK6589 2GB RAM phones.

According to GizChina:

Hope the iOcean X7 is released soon.
[Android General] edios123:
Availability

Is this available in India? They have a site, but it seems to be fake. Hope they'll launch soon here.
[Android General] 450819927@qq.com:
Can't wait...
[Android General] Tomsawhun:
Quite good.

Thank you so much the specification.
[Android General] iconic_icon:
if you check on their website, www.91umi.com, only 1 type of mobile they are selling.

how can you say that umi has a bit more experience making android phones?

on the other hand, iocean have several phones that they created before.

http://www.iocean.cc/

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i read that outlook release of x2 will be on april, and the x1s will be the first one to be release.
[Android General] MGREX:
The iocean is already sold out so forget about it until after april.

About the 2gb bug that sucks, i hope there wont be any issues with those phones later on.

These days you need 2gb of RAM
[Android General] MEkANiK:
Though the specs are impressive it needs to seen if it can be rooted ..

Canvas HD has already some custom ROM is what i understand, so maybe this is good news.. But question is why is iocean and new phones with same specs cheaper??!!

Just found this http://android-sale.com/jiayu-s1.html

Kind off like the look of jiayu phones..
[Android General] Nokia1234:
Available now?

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I use UMI X1, i care about the experience of the X2
[Android General] Jose_dias:
not yet
[Android General] heavens dragon:
it says 'Buy Now' on Umi site

http://umimobile.in/product/Umi-X2-Quadcore-id-115676.html

is it now available ?
[Android General] Nokia1234:
Ok, thanks!
[Android General] Schumi_wk:
Is the gps better than the mtk 6577?? only issue i've had with the old mobile.
[Android General] Nokia1234:
Did you order?
[Android General] Jose_dias:
Don't know, that website is for india, don't know if they ship out.

But better is wait for some reveiws
[Android General] azvd:
This phone is on pre-order on merimobiles, and it's expected to be in stock by the end of this month.
[Android General] __-_-_-__:
"According to official information, the output of UMI X2 will be delayed by the need to optimize the android smartphone: a problem in the chip MT6589 with memory capacity of 2 GB .It is reported that the revision is under way, and in early April UMI X2 must be present. Conditional on going anywhere, because engineers do not fully believe in the projections. In the near future should new information, we watch the news."
[Android General] __-_-_-__:
the difference from iocean from umi x2 is the size, built quality and gorilla glass that iocean doesn't have. for the price difference, its totally worth it to get the umi x2.
[Android General] MGREX:
BTW the umi x1s is available? I seen some stores show it but have no stock
[Android General] borg79:
As an remind for everyone who decide to buy these MTK6589 phone, please check and make sure the 3G connection protocol is compatible with your local services provider as its frequency is GSM 850 / WCDMA 2100 Mhz. My friend had a hard time on this issue and after some test run, it only works on EDGE mode !!! (My friend lives in Calgary Canada using Rogers )
[Android General] natkingcole:
basicly it's Europe, Brazil, Oceania and Asia : BUY those chinese phones!

North America and rest of South America: Be careful!
[Android General] mackhenri:
http://www.pandawill.com/mobile-phone-c1/android-os-phone-c551.html

check this link guys
[Android General] xMinistro:
any release date? you can also check JY-G4. Hope that won't be delayed.
[Android General] ozzy lion:
Some retailers are saying end of April.

If you are looking to buy one I would wait a coupe of months though as the price should stabilise as stock levels do.

From what I can tell there seems to be some delays in all the similarly spec'd devices. There might be some teething issues with drivers or similar which is holding up manufactures from going to production.
[Android General] narasimhan:
Has anyone bought this phone yet? Or like everyone(including me) waiting for someone to order and confirm the legitimacy of the website? :)
[Android General] Silesh.Nair:
Seller says in stock

http://cgi.ebay.in/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111047679701&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:IN:1123
[Android General] Schumi_wk:
Any reviews on the Youth version of the UMI X2?
[Android General] JBrandtner:
ordered mine today at achinaseller.com
[Android General] mtrakal:
My first hands on

Hello, some screens and HW specs: h**p://ftp.mtrakal.cz/hardware/Umi%20X2%201GB/

When you want more info, just say, what you want know :). Have youth version for a two days (1GB RAM, 16GB internal memory)

More info is in Czech language on: h**p://androidforum.cz/umi-x2-5-fullhd-4x1-2ghz-mt6589-2500mah-t38344-90.html you can use Google translate, for get partial basic info about my first hands on.

I bought it from antelife.com and posted it via DHL (3 days to my country). It is one of first 100 pieces.
[Android General] JBrandtner:
I would like to know, if gps, 3g and deep sleep is working fine. Which Android version is installed?
[Android General] dubazar:
Nice job! Thanks!

Me too I want to know how strong is the GPS signal...

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[Android General] mtrakal:
Installed is Android 4.2.1, looks like clean android. i will try 3g maybe today (does not have payed mibile data, so I will try on prepaid card). GPS have problems I think, long time for getting satelites, when I put X2 on car seat and not on dashboard it loose signal...

I must try it more, but first thinking about GPS is bad :(. Next days will show more.

Deep sleep: I'm not so sure, what it shoud be, by description on internet...

Phone have function, that it possible shutdown them before night and auto start on morning.
[Android General] JBrandtner:
Deep sleep describes the power saving mode, as soon as you turn of the screen... If you install CPU Spy Plus (Market, free) it shows you all the cpu states the phone was in since you booted it. Important for me is the time it spent in deep sleep, for example during night (perce tage should be real high). On my other mtk6589 (B84M) deep sleep doesn't work and battery drain in standby is a catastrophy (3% per hour)...
[Android General] rubens30:
I have use gps, and for first run need to use Gpsfix and gpstest to satelitte fixing.

Now works good.
[Android General] mtrakal:
h**p://ftp.mtrakal.cz/hardware/Umi%20X2%201GB/deepsleep/

Between 2013-05-01 22.47.22.png and 2013-05-02 08.00.00.png I was sleeping, so maybe some apps was still running? I don't know. Phone was plugged in on charger.

Between 2013-05-02 09.23.49.png and 2013-05-02 10.54.24.png is some fail with time. It's a hour (between screens) and it show on second screen, that its running more than 5 hours, but screen before show 20 :eek:

I hope, that will be helpfull for you.

I can repeat it tomorow.

GPSfix (from GPlay): looks like a really crap app. Too much bloatware/spam in notification bar, no thanks, never more :D
[Android General] dubazar:
[MENTION=4889773]mtrakal[/MENTION]

Is the phone came rooted?

Thanks

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[Android General] mtrakal:
It's hard to say :D. It contains SuperUser (h**ps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.noshufou.android.su) application, its possible to download update over app to /system/xbin/su (so ... it was possible before I click on "temp unroot" now still after restart I'm not possible to update :mad:)

Another apps can not too get root access...

h**p://ftp.mtrakal.cz/hardware/Umi%20X2%201GB/root/
[Android General] MGREX:
Where are you guys getting it? All the stores I know are still on presale or don't even have it.
[Android General] mtrakal:
I bought it from antelife.com but they had only 100 pieces: h**p://antelife(DOT)com/umi-x2-mtk6589-quad-core-android-4-1-1gb-ram-16g-rom-3g-gps-5-0-inch-ips-ogs-screen-smart-phone.html it was pre-production because they didn't want wait to solve 2GB problem with MediaTek. So Umi published this version.
[Android General] MGREX:
Seems they are out, and 260? I thought it was going to be 200
[Android General] harisaduelite:
we are still waiting for the official release in india date is scheduled to 10th may.... hope we get it specs looks awesome of this phone:cowboy:
[Android General] mtrakal:
I used GPSFix today repeatly. Don't click to Agree! Must click on Cancel and it looks like that no ads are shown now.

Now it still showing satelites (apps is now closed) and fix is fast (up to minute or faster), looks that app really works.

I will try more at night.
[Android General] mtrakal:
It contains broken version of Superuser :) -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1989261&page=2#13
[Android General] cadiga:
Dual ACTIVE SIM Phone

No, dual active SIM phone should be able recieve call and make calls concurrently with both SIM irrespective of the status of the OTHER SIM. And the caller should not get any "unreachable"message under the above circustance.

Samsung GT-C3212I was a true DUAL ACTIVE SIM PHONE at the lower end range.

Is there any new model that has above facility in Android and AMOLED screen category?

Regards

CA
[Android General] rubens30:
random entrand

somebody knows how to root this phone?
[Android General] JBrandtner:
Well, as it seems not to be available until now, nobody has tested it. But i suppose, as it is a MTK6589, it's similar to root as a B94M for example...
[Android General] abo0o0d101:
perfect phone

sent from my great xperia s
[Android General] januszzbych:
I think better wait for official version, I heard the realization date is 15th May 2013.
[Android General] mtrakal:
So, I found recovery.

1) connect USB cable to PC and Umi X2

2) Power off X2

3) VolUP + Power while Umi logo on white background is shown. Now pull out buttons and repeatly push Power.

4) Click Power for show recovery menu.

Usage:

VolUp is select button!!!

VolDown - down

Power - show recovery logo

It's possible to use signed update zip files from Internal memory card.

When I try to install h**p://androidsu.com/superuser/ RC version, it was OK, but on reboot is there old version still.

Update:

Phone must be for all regime on USB cable to PC!

Recovery mode:

VolUP+Power

VolUp: select

VolDown: down

Power: show recovery logo

Factory mode:

VolUP+VolDown+Power

VolUp: do nothink

VolDown: down

Power: select

??模式 - Factory mode

1) 自动测试 - Automatic testing

2) 手动测试 - Manual testing

3) 单项测试 - Individual testing

4) 测试撮告- Test reporting

5) 调试测试项 - Debugging watched folders

6) 清除e MMC - Clear eMMC

7) 版本信息 - Version info

8) 重启手机 - Reboot

Com port mode: SP Flash Tool:

Power off

Disconnect from PC

Run SP Flash tool (download - flash phone/read back - backup)

VolDown+Power

Plug in cable
[Android General] flamebo:
Can someone who has an UMI phone please help us out, need to know the exact network bands it supports as all the info on the net is conflicting. (It shouldn't matter what version UMI you have, they would all have the same radios)

If you download "mobile uncle tools" from the market, Click "engineer mode" then "engineer mode MTK" then "bandmode" and take a screen shot (or just list the ticked bands), that would solve alot of arguments for people.
[Android General] mtrakal:
h**p://ftp.mtrakal.cz/hardware/Umi%20X2%201GB/MobileUncleTools/

On one SIM I have disabled data by telephone operator, on second is data enabled.

Next week I will have a SIM with data enabled on second SIM too, so I can test it next week repeat (another mobile operator could have more/less frequencies assigned in our country)
[Android General] flamery:
Wow that is amazing, so its quad core GSM AND WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100... Almost seems too good to be true!

Will work on every network in the world!
[Android General] rubens30:
I have rooted with shuame

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[Android General] mtrakal:
So cool, thanks :). Great app, big disadvantage that is only in Chinese, but two clicking on buttons is OK :).
[Android General] paraponzi:
so is this telephone available somewhere?
[Android General] januszzbych:
Only on preorder for now and also at India you can buy with 1.5GHz core they call it Turbo Edition !
[Android General] thunderising:
$240 price. I'm hoping to pick up one.

[MENTION=794939]Owner[/MENTION]s of the device, what do you say. Should I buy it?
[Android General] paraponzi:
i am really interested too...and was thinking...instead of using the 1080p resolution, scaling it to 720p would give better performance/battery life with a minimal loss of visual quality? after all...we're talking about a full hd screen on a 5" device! probably we can't even notice the difference with a 720p!
[Android General] agovind:
Chinese phones not available yet anywhere

Where in India will it be available? I want one with 2GB Ram?

Do you think Jiayu G4 with 2GB Ram version better than this, since it has higher battery capacity? I personally like 4.5" screen compared to 5".

But none of these Chinese phone are available in the market...Hearing about them (Iocean, Zopo, Jiayu, Umi, Gionee etc) since March 2013. Its now middle of May...

Androidguruz intend to sell all Chinese phones, but they don't even have a store yet in Mumbai..or any other city in India.

Maybe HTC 608T will come before with cheaper price..
[Android General] januszzbych:
From India you can order via umimobile.in but they SOLD OUTX2 :( Jiayu G4 has 4.7" not 4.5 but i`m still preffer Umi, they have 2GB all the time but they can`t resolve problem with firmware issue that way most of chinise phones with 2GB ROM they keep on saying preorder I think they dont have goodengineers but is mine opinion! ;)
[Android General] januszzbych:
For this price yea ;) i`m just preordered 1.5GHz version from chinapadmall ;) I can`t wait !
[Android General] januszzbych:
till about 20th may.
[Android General] januszzbych:
I think more more trusted is chinapadmall but choice is yours ;)
[Android General] kokabunga:
Just got mine yesterday.

I can't wait for 32G version so I placed order for 16G/1G ram one in antelife

Was lucky to be one of the 100 before stock ends

For those waiting for the 32Go, restock postponed till end of may (was 15 may)

What I like :

- real compass

- notification led (green/red)

- finition seems solid, everything thigh and firm; no loosy parts

- when inserted ext SD card became classic /sdcard and internal became sdcard1 so now I have 32Go to instal apps' data

What makes me doubt :

- gps sensitivity (able to get a fix once, but had to wait 5 min outside)

- wifi sensitivity (very weak, when over phone get 1-2 bar, this none)

- long time for wifi to power and catch signal once powerd (cold start)

- weird behavior for hardware buttons

- light sensor sensivity (seems blocked in 800 and 900 lumens, according to sensors apps)

what i'm waiting for

- newer firmware because i think (i expect) that al above bad points are software/firmware related

- a beter recovery like TWRP

see you

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[Android General] januszzbych:
Thanks for your short review ox X2 i hope i will get mine also soon ;) yea frimware issiue, that is problem for Chinise phones but maybe if will be a many of x2 users then someone with good knowlegge coock for as firmware ;)
[Android General] MGREX:
US 3G bands?

Am I reading it wrong or the specs on pandawill for this phone say it doesn't support 3G in the US, just 2G?

Can anyone clarify this?
[Android General] flamery:
They are wrong, its definately 3g.

My advice, get the specs straight from the horses mouth: (Umi)

http://translate.googleusercontent....1.html&usg=ALkJrhgDJ2zdyzO9zqII06hpBWnuE1P64g
[Android General] januszzbych:
And also iocean x7 don`t have gorilla glass, second camera has only 8mpx, battery is only 2000mha and for now no version with T processor, only UMI X2 is the best ;) new release date 25th may :(
[Android General] kokabunga:
gorilla glass doen'st survive a 1m fall on concrete yesterday night...

fall just on the upper left corner... no luck ; it could have fell face down

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[Android General] januszzbych:
But still is proof for scratches not like other ones ;) i`m sorry for you but for better mood i will say S3 and S4 aslo dont servive that kind of fall ;) and cost much more! by the way I found website with firmwares for UMI:

http://bbs.91umi.com/forum.php?mod=forumdisplay&fid=37&filter=typeid&typeid=14
[Android General] voetbalremco:
Ordered mine, it can take a couple weeks before I have it, but im planning to develop on it.

Cyanogenmod won't be possible as mediatek does no give free their kernel sources, but an optimized stock rom is the least I can do.
[Android General] rodmc123:
i ordered mine too.. but im a little worried about 2 things..

first the 3g bands, in the official site of umi says it is wcdma 850/2100, but i've talked with some guys who bought it and their box says "900/2100"... im in Chile and here the biggest companies use the 850 band for 3g, there is only one that uses 2100.

can someone confirm if 3g works in the 850 band and what speed are you getting?

the second thing.. it is a black space between the inferior part of the screen and the bezel, i dont like it at all, you can see it in this picture and in many video reviews.

i wish this phone had the design of the iocean x7..
[Android General] januszzbych:
Iy not so bad ;) I hope X2 advacent will have better quality;)
[Android General] voetbalremco:
I don't know about the 3g bands as I haven't got an umi yet.

But for the black space; it is said to be removed in the version that is up for sale, that one is a pre-production model, just like we saw pictures of an umi x2 wich had both physical as onscreen menu, back and home buttons.

The version we buy won't have it.
[Android General] mtrakal:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41139528&postcount=141 page15 in this thread...
[Android General] grtmad:
The Black One looks really cheaps, some pictures on antelife, is this the final version?

This Phone has 2 different Processcors, because Pandawill said they dont have the Turbo version of this phone?
[Android General] rodmc123:
the phone is not very "nice looking" it looks like the galaxy s3 and that is not a good thing.. the iocean x7 has a much better design but it only has 4g of rom, if it wasn't for that i would choose the iocean..

about the 32gb rom and 2gb of ram version, it seems they are gonna take some time to have stock ...i got the 16gb version and it is not in stock right now.. i have to wait like 20 days till they have stock again and then like 30 or 40 more days for the phone to get here :crying:

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a guy from europe showed me this screeshot of his UMI X2

is that proof enough that is gonna work with 850mhz band, or could still not work even if android shows the band as active??? because ive read other cases where android detect that bands but 3g still does not work.
[Android General] Gavii:
hello, buy a umi X2 2GB / 32GB MT6589 in pandawill with a Presell Product Lead-time of 2013-05-25, brings Android 4.2.1 OS and it seems that no Spanish language, my question is whether it will be possible to put him Spanish language in some way, or may update the version of android 4.2.1 and the coming of the Spanish language pack ¿?.
[Android General] voetbalremco:
On Antelife, they also sell the same phone but it has spanish language standard.
[Android General] Gavii:
Thx for reponse :D

I ask on pandawill support and say me again and again that does not bring Spanish language, will wait to see

Thx Again
[Android General] januszzbych:
exaclly its android and has standard pack of languages.
[Android General] zeppelin_:
Hi guys,

Unfortunately last week, my s2 was stolen!

So, I'm in the process to find a new one.

My wife has s3 that it costs 350 euro but I prefer something bigger like note2 (450 euro).

After a small searching, my final choice seems to be umi x2 32gb as a value for money according to specs.

First of all, I'd like to ask from any (16 or 32gb) umi x2 user, a favor: Can you test the following app:

mireo don't panic try & buy

[MENTION=2126145]kokabunga[/MENTION]

I'm very sorry for the accident! I think that you need a silicon case to avoid something like that. Unfortunately I did not find any silicon case. Just for x1.

For the first gps fix, were you connected via 3g/gprs or wifi in the same time?

Can you give us more details in "weird behavior for hardware buttons"? Do you mean the front or the side buttons? what is the problem?

what version of android do you have installed?

Despite of the low wifi bar, did you browse fast, etc?

I have read somewhere that umi provides ota updates. Some sites sell the phone rooted. What your opinion about to order the phone rooted?

A very useful accessory that I used in my s2 was an external battery charger.

I had 3 batteries and it was very useful. Do you have any idea if we can find something like this?
[Android General] januszzbych:
and we have some roms for X2 ;)

http://bbs.91umi.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=126562&extra=page%3D1%26filter%3Dtypeid%26typeid%3D14%26typeid%3D14