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[Nexus 7 Accessories] player911:
The Moga is cool but pricey and the software causes input lag.

I haven't used my moga in a few weeks from being busy. Honestly, the PS3 sixaxis controller is the only one that just works.

I also use my 360 controller but that requires a USB wireless dongle on top of the controller price. It works good but I don't like the big wireless dongle.

Each has their advantages. PS3 works the best and the cheapest option. The 360 wireless dongle runs off USB which works if Bluetooth sucks or doesn't have good Bluetooth Sixaxis support. I got my Moga for free during their Christmas promo and glad I didn't pay for it.

I haven't really been able to fully enjoy my moga from their bad software support creating bad lag. The only option is to use the Moga driver app which is 3rd party and doesn't enable the second stick. I tested this on several devices. I would be pissed if I paid $50 for this.

Controller is uncomfortable for long periods and the joysticks suck... they get slippery and hard to keep them extended using your thumb for extended periods (like moving right).

The moga is cool paired with the phone for quick plays but the Sixaxis would be the better buy for a tablet.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] mjs2011:
I must be looking in the wrong places for a ps3 controller. Everywhere I look they're like $50.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Caferacer:
For it to work wirelessly, yes you need to be rooted for the sexaxis app to work correctly. The other option is to connect the controller via the OTG cable to the tablet, and it will work as a normal gamepad.

The PS3 is the best controller I have found to use for it. Just make sure to get a real PS3 controller; the fakes are either rubbish or don't work with SixAxis correctly.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ynrozturk:
The real ones are that price, true. There are a lot of fake PS3 controllers out there, I've run into a few myself. If you see one for below $40, it's fake. Just go with the real thing from a good retailer or get it directly from a Sony store, as the fakes are getting more and more difficult to spot.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] mjs2011:
Thanks guys. Yeah, I might consider getting an OTG cable and trying out my XBOX360 controller first, and if that doesn't work out, then I'll dish out some cash for a wired PS3 controller. :)

I was rooted but I'm really trying to keep it unrooted at this point.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] dsManning:
I went the 360 wired route for awhile, but got really tired of the wires. Got the PS3 controller off Amazon Prime for $40 shipped new. Worth it with the Sixasis Controller app. No cables, recognized as a native controller in alot of games, and you can program it for any game. And it is so much nicer to be wireless :)
[Nexus 7 Accessories] mjs2011:
Did the XBOX 360 controller work well with game emulators? That's still my biggest concern.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] dsManning:
Not on all. Some emulators don't even look for a controller or other input method when they start. The bonus of the Sixasis Controller app is that you can take a screenshot of any game and load that up in the Sixaxis Controller app. You can then map out the entire controller to physical locations on your screen. So when you tap "X" on the controller, it thinks you tapped on the screen wherever you assigned the "X" button.

All you have to do once you make a map is save it with a name, and before you open that game in your emulator, select that map from the Sixaxis app. BOOM, your own controller scheme.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] r00t4rd3d:
Hurry!

SixAxis DualShock 3
[Nexus 7 Accessories] monkeefied:
I have the moga gamepad and am not a fan. I was really expecting button presses like the PS3 controller and it's not even close. The moga buttons are super clicky. I like the PS3 controller, but it's not as portable as I'd like. There is another company that's making an android gamepad called evolution controllers that I think I will give a try when there product drops

edit: Just checked evolutions site and they are up for order it guess. $80 bucks though which is completely over priced IMHO
[Nexus 7 Accessories] seymour_butts:
I bought two of these

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=110928097710

Cheap and work great. I play fifa, nfs, nes, snes, max Payne..
[Nexus 7 Accessories] mjs2011:
Alright, so I'm breaking down and getting an official Sony PS3 controller today. Is there a good tutorial that you would recommend on pairing it to the N7? I heard that you have to take screenshots and configure buttons in accordance with them or something like that?
[Nexus 7 Accessories] greenmky:
I wish someone would make a case with a d-pad and some buttons integrated. It's like my dream product. *sigh*

I've got a Retrolink NES controller -> USB adapter that works great on Android (used on my Thrive and now on my Nexus 7).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PDOTXG/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1

and a Mayflash dual-SNES one that doesn't work on Android:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002IXZ5DE/ref=wms_ohs_product?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Nexus 7 Accessories] renx0:
I recommend the official PS3 controller + rooted + Sixaxis app + some sort of mount.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] jptech:
nyko playpad mini

I own a nyko playpad mini. It's a paperweight.

The software has never been updated and it's completely not working for touch controls.

Basically a lemon.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] Hulkanator:
http://www.gioteck.com/support/playstation-3-support/controllers-ps3-support-2/sc-1/

Been looking @ Bluetooth controllers with stick offset, l like using xbox controller with USB adapter but want to go all wireless.looking at this controller for ps3 with offset stick,any other suggestions would be great.

..
[Nexus 7 Accessories] d.a.v.o.r:
Does the PS2 controller work?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Shivery:
Hello everyone.

Anyone knows a good internationsl webshop with smartphone parts like mirror cover for iphone etc. I know there's a lot of sites and we got google, but I want the best site with everything at one place.

Thanks in advance
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] gowansta:
Kinda annoying. Ya think? Must have had an iPhone for a bit and can't quit!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JetBlue:
Usually just people who don't know too much about rooting and such and think jailbreak and root are the same.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
On a side note we now do jailbreak Android.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dmonger11b:
Also gotta consider that most people's only exposure to smart phone terminology is from Icrap
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Dakota0206:
Do we really need a thread on this in the Verizon Note 2 Section?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
I personally think that root being called root is annoying.

You don't add root to a phone, nor do you root a phone. You unlock access to the root user.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] tgyberg:
Well, let's coin a new term. Any idea's?!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BoostedB18C:
Since Adam is the name behind unlocking the bootloader, he started calling it jailbreak due to the fact that there are now legal issues with "unlocking." Yes we all know the legal issue with unlocking is about unlocking to use on a different carrier. To make it easier for people to understand that he is not involved in unlocking carriers, we now jailbreak.

Sent From My Beans Powered Note2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Adam was calling it that well before it became illegal to unlock to another carrier.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BoostedB18C:
Yes but its the jist of it and it provides a reason so people dont keep asking why :)

Sent From My Beans Powered Note2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
But it is not the same. Jailbreak is to make a device be able to accept sideloading applications. Android doesn't need to do this. So there is no jailbreak for Android.

Unlocking, though now illegal, is not jailbreaking (making a device to accept sideloading apps).

Calling unlocking "jailbreak" is just adding the confusion with less techy people.

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)

Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean

Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)

Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom

Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0

Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X

Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread

Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Dakota0206:
If you dont like it, change it. If you can't change it, change your attitude about it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
Agree 100%.

So annoying. There are lots of questions on Android forums now about jailbreaking Android. But there is no jailbreak in Android, because we have the sideloading settings within our settings menu (Settings > Security > Device administration > Unknown sources).

Calling unlocking a device with the name of "jailbreak" is just adding the confusion with the less techy people.

What really they are asking is "how to root my Android device".

But they need to understand is what root really is. And what it is to have administration permissions in any Unix/Linux, including Android. Only then they will stop calling root with the name "jailbreak".

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)

Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean

Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)

Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom

Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0

Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X

Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread

Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)

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Talking about it is educating people about it. Educating people is what we can do to change it. That is what I am doing.

What are you doing?

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)

Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean

Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)

Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom

Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0

Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X

Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread

Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)

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Yes.

This is educating people to use the correct terminology. When they use correct terminology then they will get better responses to their questions.

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)

Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean

Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)

Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom

Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0

Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X

Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread

Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Dakota0206:
You got me. The only thing I am doing is questioning the logic of "educating" people by posting on the second page of a device specific thread, and how that is going to lead to real change for the entire Android development community that isnt limited to just XDA. Especially when its just a hobby to 90% of the community.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] BoostedB18C:
It is what it is. We can all just accept that and move on

Sent From My Beans Powered Note2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DaRkL3AD3R:
Alright here comes my subjective take on this whole jailbreaking Android devices thing.

Do I hate it? Yep.

In my 3 years on Android and gaining root privileges on various devices I have never seen it referred to as jailbreaking, until I got this Note 2. Now I see it everywhere in the Android scenes.

Another thing I noticed is that with the Note 2 never have I seen so many iDerps come on the forums professing their new found relationships with Android and how they broke up with iOS. This thread can be considered useless but my God are those iConvert threads the Queens of Useless Threads. Why does anyone give a s*** that you converted to Android? Really?

Point being made here is that with the influx of iDolt users converting to Android there's an uncanny correlation with their terminology starting to crop up more and more.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
I guess I need to get more tech savvy because I thought when I was buying and selling I phones (those things are gold) I wrote to and modified system files. I thought to accept the gevy unlock it psyched and changed system files. I guess I'm wing though because jail breaking is only for side loading apps.

Oh and we don't need that please tell me how to add Google wallet without root. By the way you know att blocked unknown apps before. So I guess then we did jail break or phones?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] eraursls1984:
This is incorrect, unlocking the bootloader is not illegal, unlocking for other carriers is but that's not what this thread is about.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
I don't see why it matters what you call it. Break it down and the words works.

Jail break. To remove restrictions and become free. Isn't that what we did? Removed a restricted boot loader to allow custom kernels and recovery which allows custom Roms.

Stop trying to be politically correct on this. If you're feelings are hurt over a simple word then your life must be depressing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] eraursls1984:
Before you educate others you must first learn it for yourself, unlocking the bootloader is not illegal, and you don't root your phone, you gain root access.

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Add to the fact that the people trying to be PC are factually incorrect.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] gowansta:
I just don't respond even if I know the answer. Before I post anything I make sure that I use the correct word correctly so that the outcome is exactly what I am expecting when said modification has been applied. It matters not what it is called. To me a minor annoyance that I choose to correct. I loose no sleep!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Yet you made a thread about it?

LOL.

I get you didn't loose sleep, but did you lose sleep?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nosympathy:
Yup. I hated Microsoft's "I am a PC" ads for this reason. My Macbook Pro is a PC. My note 2 with a MHL adapter and keyboard and mouse is a PC.

My commodore 64 is a PC.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] times_infinity:
Mmm. Not true. Jailbreaking is more than just being able to sideload apps. It involves gaining root access and readwrite capabilities to the filesystem. Oh look at that. They're the same thing, just different terminology.

Unlocking a bootloader allows un...signed... binaries, well look at that, you need either unsigned binary or arbitrary code execution in order to have root access and readwrite access to the file system.

Might wanna do a little more research next time. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Boy I hated those ads too!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JeramyEggs:
So if I show people my new note 2, and call it an iPhone, it is alright then? I mean they are both touch screen hand held PCs. Not that I give a ****, but when I first came to xda, people really cared about it. Maybe this is where the op is coming from.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
It is a far cry to call something you buy, that SAYS NOTE II on it, an iPhone.

This is different and again, we could argue that rooting is a stupid name for it too, considering that you aren't adding root, nor are you rooting the device. You are simply gaining access to root user level privileges that were there in the first place, just locked down.

A better name would be getting admin access to your phone, but that doesn't really have a ring to it, so who the hell cares?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JaguarXT:
That was in replying to an earlier post.

The only logical definition in Android to call "jailbreak" is: To unlock device, without permission of current carrier, to be used on another carrier. After all it is illegal. Which you can go to jail for it.

My point is meshing terms like this only causes confusion with both non-techy people and with users of other carriers that don't deal with locked bootloader. Terminology has to be able to be understood across the entire community, not just for users of one carrier.

How many terminology was used within this thread to discribe "jailbreak"? Can you see how that can cause confusion? I am just saying.

Summary of Devices

Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)

Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean

Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)

Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom

Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0

Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2

Device: Motorola DROID X

Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread

Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Universexdadev:
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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] hopesrequiem:
There is so much that is wrong with this response. Please read over your posts before hitting submit. Thank you. :confused:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] universexda:
And unlocking the SIM for other carriers is OK if you bought it outright - i.e. unsubsidized.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Not necessarily. I don't think the law differentiates.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jrodbbrook:
How is this law ever supposed to be enforced? We don't live in a police state, do we?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
That doesn't make it not a law.

I can tell you that no respectable company will do it while it is illegal though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] E30Nova:
This.

You guys seriously care about what it's called?

"oh no, it's the iOS world trying to infiltrate the Android world!"

Cry me a river.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] 1ManWolfePack:
I think your signature needs to be longer....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jrodbbrook:
Agreed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] universexda:
Originally Posted by universexda

"And unlocking the SIM for other carriers is OK if you bought it outright - i.e. unsubsidized."

Pretty sure it does based on reading multiple online magazines. The Library of Congress that triggered the law sees it as your phone when you buy it outright. Also you are free to do as you please after the end of a 2 year contract.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] idiotzach15:
I'm just going to point out that its unlikely that most cops would even know what unlocking a phone means. Therefore, it's a useless law that shouldn't be implemented except through the carrier's contract.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
Do you have the exact verbiage that clarifies that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] adrynalyne:
If a carrier files a police report...they will know.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] DopeShotz:
This is the most useless thread ever!!!! Interesting and funny read though!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Whiplashh:
Honestly, I just call root "jailbreak" because most people, if they own an iPhone or not, know what a jailbreak for iPhone means (to free the phone) so I call it a jailbreak for an android. It is just easier for some people to understand. Not everyone know what root or root permissions/files are. I understand how it could be annoying but it helps others understand.

Sent From My Rooted, S-OFF'd Blackberry Curve using the iOS XDA Application for Android.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] universexda:
Reading the Library of Congress Final Rule is like stubbing your toe. Here's the official document: https://s3.amazonaws.com/public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2012-26308.pdf

What I have seen regarding full price phones is this from one columnist at Cnet: "The new no-no is buying a locked phone with a hefty carrier discount and then unlocking it on your own and without the carrier's permission." http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105...king-of-smartphones-becomes-illegal-saturday/

However you may be right about it being illegal to unlock even after the contract runs out. Per another columnist at Cnet: "the Library of Congress that prohibits unlocking phones without the carrier's permission -- even when a customer's contract with the carrier has expired." http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-5...on-to-unlock-cell-phones-hits-100000-trigger/

But I'd really like to see other analyses of the Library of Congress Final Rule.

One thing I understand from senior phone hackers and developers is that the Verizon GN2 (full price or contract) is already unlocked and from what I can glean from the columnists, in that case buying full price does allow you to use the phone on other carriers.

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By the way here's the link to the White House petition seeking to overturn the Library of Congress ruling: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7

It's the least you can do if you really want to see the rule overturned.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bond32:
I think people posting they "bricked" their phone when more than likely it just needs a cache wipe, data wipe, or *gasp* Odin to stock is worse...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] :
For the next phone, you can "unlock" it yourself and call it whatever you want.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] exilepa:
We had a co-worker that was calling his data plan the "iphone unlimited plan" that he didn't want to give up. We had to explain that unlimited wasn't iphone specific, painful.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Springy_Minaj:
I laugh at Jailbroken iPhone users trying to show off their phones when almost all the things they do you can do on a non-rooted android device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Morkai Almandragon:
THIS x 10 lol

I can live with soft brick. But a "Bricked Pone" is a dead useless bloody phone, not one you have working again in 30 minutes.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aaron.esp.35:
Hi xda people

I have a Xperia S and I wanna update it to ics in the formal way... I don't wanna try flash boot and stuff 'cause if it gets bricked it's gonna be so hard to restore it I know 'cause I've got the experience restoring phones and I think that restoring Xperia is harder than restoring Samsung I try using PC companion and nothing... This is the info of ma phone oil hope you'll help me 'cause there are some apps that I really need on my Xperia

Thanks for reading me greetings!!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Felimenta97:
You can't use fastboot with Locked Bootloader. And, flashing ROMS with Flash Mode (with Flash tool) works the same way as with PC Companion. It is the same way, except that you do it manually.

Don't worry. If you follow it right, and it is simple, you won't brick nothing.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] aaron.esp.35:
Thanks but... I don't know is there any Rom that has some apps from Xperia Z or stuff? I don't know I don't feel like doing the hard work but I might try