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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pre4speed:
That is precisely why I don't buy their phones. My phone IS mine because I long ago got rid of the subsidized atrix I got with my contract. And as soon as said contract is up, I'm done with att. I have bought 3 separate phones with my own money not renewing my contract so I can have that title. The atrix is now getting its worth with my son, so that is the only phone att truly "owns" until September. ;)

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I agree there about noobs, but really the cost is small to the carrier since they only give refurbished phones on warranty claims. They make so much money above and beyond their actual cost of the phone with their ridiculous required data plans and high costs of voice and text for the contract term, that the few people that are truly defrauding aren't really taking money from them. Its all about profit for the carriers and the little people who pay their paychecks don't matter to them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
I'm going tmo after this contract.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pre4speed:
Either straight talk (gonna have to unlock my new s3 and get it on the proper band) or tmo also. But only the prepaid. I'm done paying ridiculous prices for services I rarely use ie data. I never use data so why pay for it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
Have you seen their plans and the new jump upgrade system it sounds enticing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pre4speed:
T-Mobile? I don't believe so. What's it about?

Edit just read about it. Interesting concept but how is each previous phone gonna get paid if you take advantage of the every 6 months?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
If you still travel for your job you're gonna regret going to tmo.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
This is the exact reason up in Canada I stick with Rogers. Best coverage nation wide. Yeah I could get unlimited talk text data (3g) for $40 a month, but coverage isnt great, and if I leave gta (greater Toronto area) I'm completely screwed. Ill stay with my $60 a month thank u
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Yeah, I have tons of first hand experience with tmo and att side by side when traveling. Tmo is terrible and almost never works. When it does, it's slow as balls.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Manufacturers need to hurry up and release specs for next gen phones, so I can decide wth to get
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
For sure! My contact is up in 2 months
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
What r u looking at rite now? Tell me its the HTC one :P
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Haha, I'd rather keep this than get the HTC one!

I'm looking at Sony. I'm not sure what will be out in the next few months. I will start heavy research in the next few weeks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Your reqs are probably different from mine but from spec rumours I have my eyes on the Sony honami aka Sony i1

20mp Camera

Snapdragon 800 soc

2-3 GB ram

5.5" non-bezel

32gb?? Internal storage

SD slot

3000 mah battery

My only issue is the battery is non swappable. But let's be honest, how many times in the last 6 months have I pulled my skyrocket one? 0

And hopefully its not too hard to take apart so I could change it if I needed/wanted to.

Xperia Z Ultra phablet same specs, only 13mp camera but screen is 6.4" non bezel

MotoX seems like its gonna be mid range, so bleh

Nexus 5 rumours (LG) indicate maybe good device

And obviously note 3 but I don't do physical buttons besides volume rocker...

There, I just did all your research for you lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Exactly what I got my eyes on, plus the LG G2. Though if the Nexus 5 is based off the G2 as rumors are saying may happen, ill surely get the Nexus. Forget all this locked bootloader crap from carrier phones.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I saw the g2 but lg and locked boot loaders is a no no, but yes the nexus 5 will be I'm sure almost hardware identical... Would be nice to have cross porting like us and the herc, makes for twice as many devs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Thanks, let me know what you decide on. I'll probably see you somewhere in the Sony forums.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
True
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Ya, that's kind of how it is now with the Nexus 4 and the Optimus G. You can turn the G into a 4 anyway.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
But u lose SD slot and lte (the later u can hack back I believe)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Ya, you can get LTE back.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
But u still lose SD slot, and the internal storage is also limited to 16gb, crippling the phone. Not worth it in my opinion.

Before I used to get crazy battery, but now with my phone syncing via exchange & 3 gmail push accounts my battery dies in 10-12 total, 2 hours on screen :(

I may buy a used Note 2 just to last me til hardware upgrade in Jan
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ampm325:
I don't think we are 2 generations behind. We have LTE. OK I did hear that the s5 will be LTE-A and future proof. Hmmm. Didn't they say that about the Skytocket? The only reason I got the rocket was LTE and that is only fast for the first 5 GB of data.

I'm OK without an HD screen, and I couldn't stand jellybean so I reverted back to SkyICS. I can teather my Galaxy Camera easily, and I have DualView again with my TV.

Call me old fashioned, but I am happy as long ad the phone physically holds together.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Your not really all that old fashioned, just a late adopter, and yes we are. Galaxy S3 and now S4 are out, both released by Samsung to keep current with new phones, SOC's and so forth. Our phone got released with GB 2.3.5, S3 ,4.0.4 and the S4 4.1.2. We are clearly behind.

The reason the rocket is only showing its age now is because at one point it was a flagship level phone. With dual core snapdragon and exynos beyond 1.2 GHz android smart phones have become "good enough" for the average consumer.

With that being said I REALLY need a bigger battery as a number one priority, everything else is just a big plus. 3000mah plus is now required for my job if I want my phone to last the day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ampm325:
OK. I had to look up SOCs. I guess the skyrocket peaked in ICS, and its prolly where mine will stay.

I don't consider myself a late adopter as I returned my SII to at&t for the skyrocket and waited for the LTE network to catch up. Still waiting for NFC to catch on.

I just makes sense to me to wait on a signifigant change in technology before I upgrade, and I don't see it in the S3 and prolly not in the S4.

Then again, I could drop my phone today and have to upgrade anyway.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
S4 came with 4.2.2

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
U feel nice correcting me eh? That's it, I'm gonna read through ur entire post history now...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Hahah. Nah man, just didnt know if you were aware of that or if it was just a typo. ;)

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] catchjeff:
Is there a big difference between the S3 & S4? With T Mobile's jump program I am thinking of getting a new phone and with only $50 down the S3 is looking like the one I might get. For $150 down I could get the S4 but I do not know which one is easier to root and mess around with.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
S4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
Found how to kill cap buttons in keylayouts finally I feel 100x better.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Remove "wake"? Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
Comment out everything in sec_touchkey.kl
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
That's weetoddid
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
I have no need for them I don't use them now they cant get in the way by accidentally grazing them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
They are already there to perform functions. And they already take up some screen space so you don't gain anything by removing their function for that pie thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mtdew:
True in that sense but its much harder for me or my son to trigger those actions using pie as the capacitive buttons make gaming tricky at times for me and my son still has trouble understanding that you don't touch that part of the phone. For my personal usage this really is a simpler approach.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
That makes sense if it's getting in the way of something.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] 1BadWolf:
Just for shiggles:

http://lifehacker.com/build-your-own-arduino-powered-phone-836883335

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] vincom:
now that is a true brick phone
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kchen96:
Waited this long already...might as well wait another month for snapdragon 800 phones to start trickling out
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rbk7:
I'm sure some of you have seen this, but it's wicked cool.

http://phandroid.com/2013/07/22/ubuntu-edge-android-pc/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
If I had $600 yesterday just floating around I would have been on it. More viable mobile phone os options is always good.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Locoman_:
I'm jumping ship from my beloved Skyrocket for the S4. But you have to be wary of your carrier. ATT (and Verizon too, I think) are pushing firmware that locks the bootloader. It's giving the devs a run for their money. You're okay if you have the older firmware and root then stop the update before it happens but if not you'll still be able to root but as of now there's no way of running a custom recovery so you're stuck on stock.

Steve Kondik, CyanogenMod founder, is recommending people stay away from buying from ATT at this point.

They may find a way around it but it's complex enough that they (the devs) openly admit they may not.

(ATT is going to be doing this for all their phone going forward. If I could afford an unsubsized unlocked phone, I would but right now I'm getting a refurb S4 for $29. If it comes with the wrong firmware, it's going back.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] skyle22:
Next phone...? Still got quite a while left of my skyrocket contract. Hopefully I can last till June of next year. Just hope the devs continue keeping us skyrocket user in mind :D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kchen96:
Hey guys just looking for some advice on my next device. My contract is up and I am looking for Sony Honami (i1, z1, etc), Moto X with a wood back, or maybe even wait until HTC One (2?), Galaxy S5, or Nexus 5. What I'm thinking of doing is buying a iPhone 5S to sell on Ebay and use that money to buy the newly discounted Nexus 4 and wait to use the rest of the money on a new device. Does anyone know how much I would get off a 16 Gig, 32 Gig, or 64 Gig? I didn't pay attention when the iPhone 5 came out. Which is the easiest to sell with the best profit margin? How soon do I have to get it to be able to sell on eBay before availability kills the profit margin? Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
LG G2...worth the upgrade? Discuss.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
I was interested in it at first. Spec wise seems decent, I think it has root available, buttons on the back kinda iffy about. Personally, waiting to see the next Nexus device. Tired of the locked bootloader crap with at&t.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
I've thought about doing the same thing, but the non-expandable storage, for me, is a deal breaker with those phones. At least I think it would be.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] vincom:
yup, 2 things i want, expandable memory and a removable battery

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
I thought so too, but I still have 14gb left. The only thing that bothers me is the sealed battery but it will be time to trade it in before it's lost capacity.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
You get the 32 gig version? You store music or use the cloud?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xcrazydx:
Yeah, the 32gb version. I store my music on the phone. I rarely stream from the cloud, but I use that too occasionally.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ossito2012:
I will jump ship if the rumored LG Nexus 5 is true, but honestly, the SkyRocket running CM10.2 has been a beast, not to big or small, plenty fast with LTE. I do not play games on phones, mostly use for computer IT work and music/podcast. Probably not a better back up phone out there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] AzRaell333:
How about the Note # and the Galaxy gear watch?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Note 3, yes. But at&t will lock it down so probably not.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Just called ATT tech yesterday and they will indeed be locking the N3. The S4 has been out for a few months now and other than the LOKI exploit which was patched within a few weeks by Samsung no dev has been able to crack it. I'm expecting them to use the same method on the N3. Looks like the international version for me. I also believe that the Exynos processor that the international version will have will include a stand alone Wolfson DAC. I don't have LTE where I live so for me at least that makes the decision easier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
They've pretty much already made it clear every phone they put out will be locked.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mrfeuss:
I fixed it. What a crock of bull.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
Looks like I'll be jumping on the LG G2 in a week!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] pixelens:
Skyrocket on CM10.2 is awesome... unfortunately mine is now borked so it's looking like I'll be jumping over to the Nexus 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] chas101:
My next phone

I cannot post links so search YOUM from Samsung on Youtube announced today
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
And it's official, ordered my G2 today. The Skyrocket has been a hell of a good ride though. Probably will keep it around as a back up and development tool.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
How much did you get it for? I saw it for $200, but wasn't sure if anyone else had it cheaper. I'm looking at it pretty hard, but I don't know if I want to deal with the locked bootloader of an AT&T phone, or wait for the next nexus.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
It's $99 on T-Mobile, but they count the rest into monthly payments. I paid more upfront to lower my monthly payment.

The bootloaders on the G2 have been easily unlocked, and T-Mobile tends to be less of dicks about it. They also have tons less bloatware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
That. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Haha! Yeah, that's what I'm leaning towards, but that g2 is a nice device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crashpsycho:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

Simple apple was the good but lazy and slacks although there products work well android in my opinion give you more options to make something your vs there's plus I don't like being icloned
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Sheolrock:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

The worst of Apple is better than the worst of Android but the best of Android blows the best of Apple out of the water. Imho.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

I'd have to disagree with you. When I sent my phone back to samsung my friend let me use an old iphone 3rd Gen and it was awful, may have been the worst 2 weeks of my life.... I used an old android phone with like 500 megabytes of ram and a 520 MHz processor which was 10000x better than the iphone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] don728871:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

The mid point is the lg.optimus g its nexus convertable
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jessical:
It's the pro apps that I have a problem with. There is a lot of open source alternatives, but they are so gimped in comparison and have a learning curve. I've been using Photoshop since 1998. And I'm heavily invested in Adobe/Autodesk software, and OS X software in general. I'm not giving them up for POS linux clones or forcing myself to rely on emulation/wine - It goes both ways. :)

I haven't tweaked my SR in ages now. Last thing I installed was to get rid of the camera in the 4.2 lock screen. Otherwise running stock CM with some nice apps for school. I have an iPad now and I'm missing the iPhone so much.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

If you wanna waste your money on a piece of s**t device that people use because apple is good at marketing feel free, just know its a stupid mistake and you shouldn't post things saying your gonna use an idevice because your gonna get flamed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] liquidzoo:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

Honestly, when I upgrade it will be to whatever phone has the best DAC at the time. Development is nice, but I listen to music on my phone when I'm at work (when I remember the rest of my gear), and the SR is lacking in that department.

Yes, there are mods that help, but the DAC is going to help the most and bring out those mods to the fullest.

As of this point, I think the Xperia line has the best in the US.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] ozziedog:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

What does Photoshop and Adobe have to do with getting iPhone? But I do see your point you don't want to be able to have your phone your way you just want a phone the dictates to you what you can do with it. I may follow you I've had an iPhone before, a Motorola flip phone and a BlackBerry guess I'll go back to my blackberry 8700 because I want a phone that only has dial tone and text messaging. That's it I've lost my mind. Why don't you take your iPhone and go stick your head in the sand.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mindmajick:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

It's just a gadget anyway. Use what makes you happy :D

I run an IT business and work on macs, linux and windows machines. I like all three for different reasons.

Anyway... Back to the OPS original topic:

OK- if you are going to get a new phone personally i would go w ANYTHING made by Samsung. Despite my earlier statement that the s4 is a small bump.... If you GOTTA get a new phone, that is ;)

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Sent from my Kindle Fire 2, CM 10.1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

I will agree that android is good bang for your buck, absolutely, but so is a windows phone.

You want timely updates and reasonable timing, Windows Phone or IPhone. Granted, they've both had issues with timely releases in the past, but their overall experience is greater than even nexus phones. I say this becuz nexus experience depends on carriers, and Windows seems to have had better luck with quick released than nexus (think Verizon)

As for the skyrocket having better hardware. Huh? the A6 CPU in the skyrocket slaps almost every modern CPU released, let alone the S4 we have. It greatly exceeds ours in real word benchmarks in CPU and GPU , all while gaining MORE battery life from a smaller battery.

Windows phones have budget devices lime android, bug iPhones have none. they operate on a business model where their budget devices are either refurb units or older devices. in many ways this makes sense without tarnishing the brand or reducing value of your flagship. In this regard they can ensure high quality (don't get it twisted, I phones ARE of extremely high build quality, especially when compared to my favorite brand Samsung, sadly) in terms of build materials and quality control.

I say all these things becuz unlike isheep or androsheep, I can appreciate what each is good for. Windows phones are EXTREMELY easy to learn to use, and just work. So if u want a phone for just a basic phone, I suggest these.

Iphones are great for their build quality, long term update support only rivaled by nexus, and the fact that they build high quality products.

Androids are for those who love to tinker and squeeze every little bit of performance of out their phone. They have many pros, buts let's be honest. Even on stock, do I want my mom undervolting/searching for a wakelock because her battery sucks? Or flashing a custom ROM and losing reception so she has to try other radios? Even without root, if a rogue app crashes and causes boot loops, then what?

I dislike Windows phones because of the lack of modability, and the fact that they don't do enough, for me my phone isnt just a phone, its an entertainment device. I hate Iphones because although they can be jail broken in certain conditions and meet my entertainment needs, they are SEVERELY OVERPRICED, specs wise the iPhone 5 was the first phone at launch to offer on par or greater performance than its rivals. Every other apple product is always a step behind, or current, but with an undeserved price premium. Androids are cheap, modible, and fulfil my needs.

With all that said, we must understand the pros and cons of each device. I hate people who say iPhone this or Android that, and offer no support foe their opinion, no facts at all. That proves nothing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

Why did my thread turn into another android vs apple thread? I asked for some advice on my next phone. I didn't say anything about an iphone in the thread at all. In my opinion, if your an apple fan you shouldn't be on an android device/forum let alone xda which is mostly about android devices. So please do us apple haters a favor and stop posting about how great apple is or anything about an iphone or Mac or ipad or any icrap device. Go make your own website where you won't bother us, or even better go make your own Utopian society on a remote island where your cut off from the rest of the world and save us the hassle of hearing about how great your crappy device is. We know the specs and know why android is superior.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jessical:
Lol, well excuse me for being open-minded. At least I tried being an Android user for over a year, unlike people who give up a day later.

Anyway, I'm out of here. I keep forgetting why I don't come on XDA anymore. Used to prefer it back in the Windows Mobile days before the robots took over. Now it's just full of a bunch of teenagers.