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[Nexus 7 General] Vaet:
I have been contemplating buying this tablet for a couple days after a friend suggested it to me. I have been doing extensive research on the tablet and quite like it as whole but, some things that annoy be about the tablet is:

- Colour Saturation

The colours just aren't as lively as I would like but I guess you could get used to that..still quite a disappointment.

- Up scaled games and apps

Games and apps on the playstore are up scaled for the resolution of the tablet obviously...and this really annoys me because the quality goes down and also a lot of the apps aren't well optimised for the android OS and such.

I have been doing a lot of comparisons between the iPad mini and this tablet and I am mostly leaning towards this tablet but at the same time I think I would probably get the iPad mini if it had the retina display or had a much tighter price gap between the nexus and itself.

The main thing that annoys me is the colours, if that wasn't a problem then I wouldn't even be making this thread, is there any hack or something that a dev created that could possibly tweak these things and make it better?

Basically, the main thing I want to gain from this thread is making a decision to get the nexus 7 or the iPad Mini..

I want to make this decision based on your opinions and experiences and your own decision on which one you think would be better...money aside.

Also, I want to ask as a last question if you think I should wait for the nexus 7" 2 that is rumored to be announced at the dev conference somewhere in may...also do you think there will be a big price difference between the nexus 7" 2 and the normal one.

Thanks.

tl;dr

iPad mini or Nexus 7 or wait for the Nexus 7" 2 to be rumored to be coming out in may. Some problems with the nexus is colours and proper app support and optimisation which could be annoying. Give your opinion on the matter...money aside.
[Nexus 7 General] FitAmp:
Well honestly, colour saturation on this device isn't to bad. I've had no complaints with the screen at all. And from what I know, the nexus 7 is closer to retina display than the iPad mini. There are actually a lot of apps that look very nice on this device. I'd really recommend getting an Nexus 7. As I made the same decision between iPad mini and n7, I do not regret it :)
[Nexus 7 General] Spl4tt:
I also holded back with buying it.

I'm happy that I did in the end!

Go for it.
[Nexus 7 General] CrazyPeter:
You need to stop listening to and believing everything Apple say. It's rarely true.

Games and apps certainly aren't all upscaled phone versions. The majority of the popular apps you will use all have tablet layouts in them.

The bit that Apple don't mention, is that this means you only buy the app once, not twice... I wonder why they forgot to mention that........

Colour saturation is also another myth spread about to try and discredit the Nexus7, which spanks the iPad Mini on specs, performance features and price... If you really want a differentiator, then look at the screens between the ipad mini and the N7. The N7 is miles better, not only in resolution.

The iPad Mini is an out of date shrunk down iPad2, a rushed out answer to the N7, still hobbled by Apple's fixed ratio 4:3 fat panel format.
[Nexus 7 General] killall:
Well said that man.:good:
[Nexus 7 General] ayamkampung:
Go for it, you wont be dissapointed
[Nexus 7 General] BlackFire27:
I honestly haven't noticed anything bad about the screen.
[Nexus 7 General] Darth:
I know people...a few....that after owning an ipad.....got the nexus 7 next. They were very happy!

Tho.....Steve job's ghost haunts them now and won't leave them alone!!!!!

Sent from my cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 7 General] cnstarz:
I have no idea what kind of unbiased answers you're looking for from a N7 enthusiast forum... These kinds of threads are stupid. Just compare the two devices yourself to make your own judgement.
[Nexus 7 General] matus201:
I like technology, and although I can't be unbiased (I have nexus 7), I'll try to give my as-fair-as-possible opinion here:

Reasons I would go for nexus 7 and not iPad mini:

- ecosystem - if you already have android phone, all those apps will simply work

- great bang for the buck - you get a lot for your 250

- amazing high res. screen with 16:10 aspect ratio. And as soon as you disable the stupid "tegra dimmer battery saver", the colours are as good as on any other high end tablet. Aspect ratio great for movies/TV shows.

- android is really good at being the latest in terms of software. There is always something new happening: new roms, new updates, new cool apps.

- Google now, notifications, multitasking.. as mentioned, android feels fresh while iOS is pretty much outdated by today's standards.

Reasons I would go for iPad mini and not nexus 7:

- gaming. The combination of pretty average gpu (tegra 3) and lack of proper optimization from many games (all gameloft, many ea games) makes nexus 7 only an average gaming machine. iPad mini, on the other hand, runs everything with full graphics and much higher framerate, despite being "iPad 2" hardware.

- larger screen and 4:3 aspect ratio. Yes, it has lower resolution, but larger size. This works well for things like reading or browsing, esp. if you are comfortable holding the tablet further away from face. Also 4:3 is, imo, better for these things. However, movies and TV shows will be significantly worse due to lower resolution and 4:3 aspect ratio.

- Apple ecosystem - if you already have an iphone, many apps will simply work.

- looks. iPad mini is honestly the sexiest tablet I've ever held. It is much thinner and lighter than Nexus 7. And the smaller bezel size looks really good. I'm not saying nexus 7 is ugly - but iPad mini is much better looking. (also don't listen to ppl claiming that the small bezel makes it impossible to hold the device in one hand without touching the screen. I tried it a lot, and never had a problem with accidentally touching something with my thumb.)

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BTW, in CNET's prize fight of Nexus 7 vs iPad Mini, Nexus 7 won. I was shocked, CNET was always very biased towards Apple products..
[Nexus 7 General] ginryu:
Just go a buy the damn thing you want!!

If you want an ipad mini made from ipad 2 junk scraps it's up to you but i got a nexus 7 and am the happiest guy there is (tablet speaking :D).
[Nexus 7 General] Warren_Orange:
Yes it's an awesome tablet.

I bought it as a stop gap till the nexus 10 showed up, now I don't feel like I need a nexus 10 no more.

The nexus 7 is so handy size wise. It's perfect.
[Nexus 7 General] robbbzilla:
Nexus 7

The iPad mini does have better color saturation and the most apps. It also probably has better gaming performance. If those things matter to you then get the mini and pay about $100 more.

If open source software and the idea that software should be free as in free to use it how you see fit then I think the Nexus 7 is it. The screen is awesome. I have seen the two side by side and the apple looks better color wise but the resolution on the N7 is awesome. Also looking at it daily I have never thought the colors were bad.

The amount of things you can do and the amount of customization you get is unequal to anything else. Updates are super fast as well. For the price I simply do not see any reason to own anything else. The apps on android work great and most have updated to tablet scaling. There is an app for everything I need and google navigation is the best.

I think Google is a better company than apple for several reasons. They sold this device at cost and develop their software in an open source ecosystem not locked down and proprietary. Sure they want your personal data but rooting and custom roms will solve that. The other thing is the hardware is the best you can get for the cost while Apple sells it's hardware for a premium and usually cripples the device or gives outdated hardware so as soon as you buy your device is outdated forcing you to continually upgrade and buy a new device. Designed obsolescence is Apple's business model. They certainly make good products and good software but their business tactics are worse than Microsoft.

I guess I still have a bad taste from buying a powerpc iBook right before the intel versions came out and the salesperson telling me that they will support powerpc for years and at least two OS versions. Not even a month later intel came out and my iBook was junk. Sure a few months it was good but after that, after Leopard I was stuck with a perfectly good machine but no support. Flash forget it. Oh well that was then. Now I want hardware that is not tied into software. I will only buy Nexus tablets from now on because of the updates and mods. I will only buy Windows pc's so I can choose windows or Linux. I have a friend with a mcbook pro from 08 and no hdmi?? A macbook pro!! My old $500 2007 gateway laptop has an hdmi output??

Enough of my rant. I like Apple products but I just know it is a money drain and no freedom. Other than that they just work great:cool:

R
[Nexus 7 General] TardyKilla:
Without a doubt.
[Nexus 7 General] wolfvgang:
iPad mini is good...for sheeple

Just kidding about the Sheeple comment. I like Apple hardware, just not their software and proprietary, curated ecosystem.

The Nexus 7 is thicker and heavier than an iPad mini, and the colors aren't as bright, but I like it a lot compared to an iPad mini because:

1. It's something different than what other people around me already have (apple devices).

2. I prefer to support free or ad-supported software. Google Play seems a bit less commercial than the iTunes store, and that appeals to me somehow.

3. Better customization with android over iOS, ability to root, try different ROMS

4. Much less expensive than iPad mini. I won't be out a lot of cash when/if I upgrade in a year or so

5. I hate iTunes. iTunes is bloatware that never does what I want: simply move files back and forth and organize them how I want. Lock me out of my own device, and move and rename all 1,500 of my music files without warning? I don't like being locked into one single software option for managing my own data files.

6. Works great as an eReader with the Calibre desktop program and a lot of eReading software like Moon+reader, FBreader, Kindle reader, Aldiko, etc., and I can also sync my books and comics between Android devices with these programs. Calibre works so much better than other programs I've tried.

7. My whole life is on Gmail, Google calendar, and so on. Why not go all in with Google?
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To me, it feels like Apple and it's flunky iTunes is like some kind of bandit gang guarding the bridge to the internet and customer data, shaking down travelers.

Apple makes excellent, although overpriced hardware, and then tries to restrict how I use it with iTunes, and that doesn't even do what I want. Android offers way more options.
[Nexus 7 General] FLASHnox:
I've had The N7 for about a week now and it's been great, I haven't come across one app that didn't have a tablet UI. Of course the extent of my testing with it was downloading a bunch of free games and playing them for a few minutes. On the color saturation note, i don't see anything wrong with it, I watch quite a bit of anime and colors look vibrant.
[Nexus 7 General] Vaet:
The main thing about this quote that I noticed is how you said that google takes my info. I wanted to ask you about in rooting and custom roms would I need to customise a setting of some sorts to enable that or does it do it automatically?

I am getting a nexus 7 guys btw. Made my final decision and I think it is a pretty good one, so yeh haha
[Nexus 7 General] cdf3:
The main thing I dislike about my Nexus 7 is the colors being too bright.

For instance, the Tapatalk app has a tan/yellowish background with black text. On my iPad and other Android devices it's a medium shade of tan/yellow. Fairly easy to read text. On my Nexus 7 it's a very light tan/yellow, and also the text does not seem to be a dark black. Very difficult to read text. I rarely use the TapaTalk app on my Nexus 7 because of this. I wind up using my other devices.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 2
[Nexus 7 General] Spl4tt:
Oo I don't have that. the colours are really nice here..

I'm using the N7 especially for reading and xda. Since I have it, I'm using the phone only for texting and messaging..

I love everything about this tab x)

Sent from my Nexus7.
[Nexus 7 General] styckx:
Buy it. I bought it twice because a month after selling it for the N10 I missed its small form factor when I'm out on the road. For the price and size it is the perfect take a long planner, gps, mp3 player, gaming device and movie player etc. I love my N10 but it is awkward to carry along to appointments, use in the car, train etc.
[Nexus 7 General] swisstourist:
Cdf3,

You can change to white on black in the tapa talk setting.

It s very good.
[Nexus 7 General] cdf3:
I don't care for Dark Mode in TapaTalk. The white text is too bright, and it strains my eyes when trying to read text.
[Nexus 7 General] saulvg:
I would go with the nexus 7. I had mine for about a month now and absolutely love this thing. The amount of customization you can do to it is amazing. My wife has a iPad 2 and I used to use it all the time, since I got my nexus 7 haven't touched the iPad once. She also just got the iPad mini, it looks good, but the ui just feels so old compared to the nexus. To tell you the truth we are regretting getting the iPad mini. I have never regreted getting my nexus 7.
[Nexus 7 General] I Am Marino:
For price, this tablet is unbeatable.

-Sent from Marino's Nexus 7-
[Nexus 7 General] Dark Jedi:
Have you tried the tablet version of tapa talk? You might want to try it as the colors are not bright on it. Also what's your screen brightness setting? Might want to turn it down a bit.

To the original poster I got my son a galaxy tab 2 same time I got my n7. I must say the n7 screen is much better than the tab 2. My son even asked why my screen looked way better than his. I just looked at him and said because its a nexus. So in the end play with both the n7 and mini and ask yourself this will I be happy with apple telling me what I like and don't like or will I like Google in letting me do what I want with my device and customize it the way I want to.

Oh and as far as the app resizing concerns. Don't worry about it as I play many games on my rezound and n7. The game resolution on the n7 isn't diminished in any way. Its just as clear and crisp as it does on my rezound. Stop listening to apple propaganda machine. They just are afraid of Google and they know many aspects of android devices are far superior than their own stuff. I think that's why they put such a nice screen on the apple products. People sees that nice rich screen and forget the short comings of everything else.

Only thing I wish the /n7 had was a SD slot other than that it's pretty much great add it is. I would wait and see if the N7² is coming out. Some rumors I heard was it was suppose to be a cheaper version of the N7. So just wait and see what's coming out as you went this long without a tablet. A little more won't hurt but I do love my N7.

Good luck on your choice.
[Nexus 7 General] HobbesIsReal:
I did a LOT of research, read every review (both profession and user reviews) on all the 7" tablets out there, including the iPad Mini, and I got the Nexus 7 for myself at Christmas. I have been extremely happy with it. When you weigh out the price vs features / specs you really get the bang for your buck. I have not had any major complaints the last several months where I have used it extensively at home and on the road traveling for work.

I have loads of VERY high end FPS games on it and the Nexus 7 handles them very smoothly. I do a LOT of streaming via NetFlex / Hulu / Amazon without a problem.

Here are the only limitations should be known and included in your decision making:

1) Inability to hook up to my TV via HDMI

2) No rear facing camera, only front facing, i.e. video conferencing camera.

3) No SD slot

That's it. If you can live with that, you will be happy.

Since it does not have an SD slot, I would strongly recommend getting the 32 GB version as it is surprising how fast 16 GB can go.
[Nexus 7 General] tshot:
What is the difference, other then the extra space? 16 GB works fine.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 7 General] :
Ota cable and flash drive can solve space issues!

Sent from my cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 7 General] simonb255:
Bought mine back in September still in love with this thing
[Nexus 7 General] jmejiaa:
I JUST put in my order after not being a fan of tablets for a while.. Even with an ipad for work, I just don't like it..

I think the Nexus 7 will be great for me, I want to be able to put some pdf's for school on it and use it for traveling/browsing while I'm home...
[Nexus 7 General] Makxx:
Just get the N7. Not everything that Apple says are true. Gaming on N7 is much better than gaming on the iPad Mini (3 even).
[Nexus 7 General] Dark Jedi:
You will like it as I haven't messed with my laptop since I got my n7.
[Nexus 7 General] THUDUK:
Just bought a nexus 7 16gb WiFi, been used to using android devices for a long time, recently I sold my galaxy note 2 and bought both this and an iPhone 4s.

The reason being most of my friends and family use iOS devices to chat via imessage and there are a few simple online with friends/buddies games that we all play, some of my work has me dealing with business people that use iOS devices so its good to be able to run similar apps and deal with issues.

But android for me is the greatest using this nexus 7 alongside my iPhone with its 3g connection tethered, makes for the perfect best of all worlds setup.

The screen clarity and colours are spot on, book, magazine and comic reading is a joy with the nexus, can see I will have plenty of use from this tablet, and would highly recommend it especially as its so cheap.
[Nexus 7 General] chismay:
converted another i-o'er yesterday :D he sold he's crappy i-pad 2 and bought a nexus 7 ......still had cash for a case a otg usb cable and screen protector.......and some beers........class :highfive:
[Nexus 7 General] jb.traveller:
Got my 3g Nexus and can now browse the internet on the road using Giffgaff sim, while my Samsung S3 on T-Mobile (EE) has problems in some areas. I rooted it and have most of my apps on it. Great device. :)
[Nexus 7 General] HobbesIsReal:
The memory is main difference for the WiFi models. But it is amazing how fast 16 GB can go. For example, since this tablet can handle the high end games, i.e FPS, each one I installed can be over 1 GB per game!!!!! Add in 8 GB+ of songs. A library of books and Magazines (700 mb +). A movie or two (700 mb to 2 GB each), A few Audible audio books (200-750 mb each) to listen to. Email storage for two personal accounts and a work one (a few GB with all my work attachments).

With all of this installed I currently have 4 GB free on my 32 GB Nexus 7 WiFi.
[Nexus 7 General] Dr.Molestratus:
"Also, I want to ask as a last question if you think I should wait for the nexus 7" 2 that is rumored to be announced at the dev conference somewhere in may...also do you think there will be a big price difference between the nexus 7" 2 and the normal one."

Wait if you don't need the tablet now, and why consider the ipad mini? Worse specifications at a greater price tag.
[Nexus 7 General] swisstourist:
Not worth the iPad mini.

What can you do with an iPad, download peer to peer, Bluetooth,?

Plus you need itune.

No GPS,you see the pixels on small character

Yes you have a nice aluminium case which is scratchable....

model with gps cost over 600$, in 2 years your iPad worth shot....

Nexus as well but see all you can do for half price and u can sell it your nexus 7 for 100 $ or give it to your parent...
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
Hey all , I have been using my sense stock rom (3.5) but there are few things which causes lag., for example when I enable lockscreen shortcuts , and unlock using ring it lags a lot and zoom out animations are lagging too . Sometimes when I scroll my homescreen , it lags too . I'm using supercharged v6 and I'm having no partition of my card. Still I'm not able to trace the cause of this lag in stock Rom . Our explorer already have very basic version of sense 3.5 ( with limited / or almost no animations which we see in wildfire s) and still it lags . I have only limited apps installed ( about 50). Please someone suggest me how to overcome this . I'm sticking with stock Rom because I need a good battery life and switching to other custom roms won't give me a good battery life.

Regards

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] anmolkumar10:
Try to do factory reset..... First make backup of ur apps and contacts..... :)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
Only if it had been this easy :/. I'm no noob and have tried these all things , I have been experiencing lag since beginning :(

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
I want my stock Rom to be as smooth as it is on wildfire s tuning same sense 3.5 . Pls do share your knowledge .

Regards

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Gian.Krl0:
Just use Super Backup: SMS & Contacts for backup the important things to the SDcard, then go to Settings -> Privacy -> Factory Data Reset.

You can backup apps too, but maybe any of these apps have something corrupt and make your phone laggy, so backup and restore only important things that you really need.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] anmolkumar10:
For me its running very smooth..... U can try this.. Hope this link help u...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2007810
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
There are 7 of it , which one do you think will remove lag ??

Reply soon

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Parth_14:
Download acc to your region!

Like indian? So htc asia!!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
What are u talking about ? The link is to the flashable scripts not ruu Rom -_+

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] anmolkumar10:
try #2.... hope it work
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] xpmode:
Don't use those scripts. They are all just random stuff kanged from other scripts, clashing with each other and causing chaos.

If a factory reset didn't work, I'd suspect from hardware.

Also, CM has far better battery life. I had 4 days with CM10.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
4 days ? Are you sure of your words ? Cause with cm9 build #11 got not even a day :/ . And I bought HTC for htc sense , going for jelly bean wouldn't be sutable for me and sense 4a is constantly rebooting that's why I have switched to stock but stock is baggy :(

Via HTC Sense
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] and-roid007:
jaggyrom

why u don't use any sense based custom rom?? like jaggy

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36988269&postcount=412
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Hemanth97:
Try using custom roms like Nextgen ROM ver 1.4 .. It's quite fast :)..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Blue3125:
Never mind , I have now switched to flyrom v4 (sense 4). Moderator please close this thread.;)

Regards
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