yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MovieGene:
Same problem

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] joroboyvn:
I had a major battery drainage, caused by media scanner running, preventing my phone going into deep sleep. I figured out that Shazam was forcing the media scanner to run. I think it worth sharing it with you guys! Cheers...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
I had that problem too, I installed Rescan Media Root and disabled media scanner.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Whitehawkx:
Once again, are you SURE you're not receiving them? We do not do nightlies every night. We do them every THREE nights. Last nightly was done 5/9, so if you install the app after that you will NOT get the notification till the new nightly is built.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] MovieGene:
Here's my history, not complaining, just odd.

I also noticed it installed to SD card by default, is that normal?

I hate us clogging this thread with posts about aokPush, but I searched and was unable to find another appropriate location.

Thanks, along with others that have said this in the past, love the work you do with rom dev, have flashed others and usually within an hour I come right back to yours.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Whitehawkx:
You could try hitting up sethyx who created AOKPush. He's really good about getting back with users to sort out any issues they're having. I can't recall the exact time that the 5/9 nightly was sent out, but i think it was mid-day.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Latest nightly
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vsot13:
Just received notification for 5/11 build.

Dark Ui. Downloading:thumbup:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Yeah, if only I didn't get 30 KB/S.....

I'll try it later tonight when the traffic is lower.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vsot13:
I agree it's taking forever
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
I've been downloading since 5:20......at 37%. :banghead:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vsot13:
I was at 88% and my phone reboot :banghead: Starting again... Lol

I guess passion is our best friend. I got feeling, that this gonna be a good one
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
Please no more sod please no more sod.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Jiggs82:
Lol +1
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PapaMag:
Just got through flashing 5-11 letting it settle in and got a new nightly from aokpush for 5-12 sheesh
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
5-12 or 5-11???? I'm confused. I an riding this out with WH. :confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PapaMag:
Downloaded 5-11 test builds and right after I finished I got a aokpush notification for 5-12 official nightly's. Not sure what the difference is between the two builds so for now I'll stay on the 5-11 build and see how it acts. So far so good, I did flash cerux 1.50 beta 3, with uvmc6
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeybuttons:
No go. Got a sod immediately after flashing. Dirty flashed over May 9th nightly. Also, my sod and rr happen together every time. If I get a sod I will always get a rr if I wait about 10 seconds.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
Difference is that 5/12 does NOT have the dark theme. I just noticed that and I'll be reverting to 5/11 right now.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeybuttons:
EDIT: I flashed WH test build, not the nightly.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PapaMag:
Ah thanks I like the dark so I'll stay where I'm at
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Dugan1017:
Got irritated with the SOD so I gave Touchwiz a try for a few days. I feel so dirty now. All seems well on the 5/11 build so far after a clean install, and the dark UI is awesome!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bobiscool07:
Picture of the dark theme?

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Working very nice for me so far. No SOD's or RR's. Hopefully I don't jinx myself.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
For some reason I couldn't upload the picture on the previous post. Here's what I was talking about.

This is with dark theme enabled for those of you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] IMDVDfreak:
Just reporting last WH nighty everything okay so far 1 sod when unlocking my phone.

One thing is BT music streaming is perfect, but phone call it's like taking in a bee hive, you can't hear anything. The same in the other end

Regards
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] kbluebig:
Best Radio version to use IMO !

So I tested this AOKP milestone 1 - 4.2.2 rom last night (had the first milestone based on 4.1.2 previously) and found I couldn't use 4G at all and wifi was insanely slow. I knew it had to be the radio firmware. I was at UVLE1. Crazy old version. So I had time this morning to play with it so I flashed it to the latest UVMC6 and the 4G was working now. Download speed seemed kinda lower than normal but upload was insanely slow. Like 100K when its usually 4mb/s Wifi seemed slower than normal at work too

So I tried the next one down UVLI4 and wa-la, I think that hit the sweet spot. Tested both 4G and wifi and 4G seems to be back at the speeds I'm use to but the wifi looks to be around 15% faster. Very much yes !

Hope this helps someone else.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
I've still been getting a lot if different colors....Blue to Green to Purple. That's one thing. The other is that when my phone is turned off and is charging, I can't get it to boot. It'll vibrate normally but just be blank.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bseager:
5/11 unofficial

Been rocking the unofficial 5/11 build for two days and as mentioned above, no SoD's or RR's as of yet! :victory: :fingers-crossed:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Guatiao:
A bit late on my feedback, but 5/9 seems to use charge quicker than previous versions in my phone at least.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Can anybody else on todays build confirm that touch to zoom does not work for the camera.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Guatiao:
I just dirty flashed 5/12 nighlty and both touch and volume buttons zoon in the camera are working.

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One quick, possibly OT question: what would be the general opinion on the best performing audio mod for the latest versions of AOKP? I've been using Equalizer for a long time now, and would like to try something different.

Thanks!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
May be a n00b question but will Halo be incorporated into this ROM or is it only for PA? Also is Halo only for the Nexus 4 on PA or will it be available for other phones as well?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Not talking about nightly was talking about unofficial build 5-13

Anyway 5-11 unofficial is running good see how it goes for awhile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] vsot13:
There is no today build 5/13...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
5-11 unofficial

Hey guys, im using the 5-11 unofficial nightly build. everything works just fine for me. But when i connect my phone to usb, it connects as Media storage (MTP). I really dont like this mode. Is there a way to revert it to the normal storage mode?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bravouno:
This setup works amazing, even with Pandora and YouTube. Noozoxide and awesome beats zip

From my Bauer seed in minecraft
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
There is but not by whx it's on the marinermoose thread. Posted to wrong thread but there is a 5-13 build out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] daring_guy:
+1.

There is not a way to revert back to the regular USB mode. When did this disappear?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
They changed it a few builds back can't remember which one though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ghostman256:
Anyone know how to add more Emojis? .. Currently the 471 emojis still doesn't cover all the iphone latest emojis.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
Crackflasher's go get the new build by WH :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Chris9446:
When do I flash the radio and should i do it in touchworkmod? Before or after flashing the rom?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
I use twrp but you can use whatever you prefer. Flash the ROM then the gapps then the radio and you'll be fine.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Chris9446:
thanks for the tips, on my old htc desire, it wasn't optimal to flash by radios by the recovery so I was just making sure
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
No problem man. Happy flashing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
I prefer the old usb mode. We need that back

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I also noticed the 5-11 nightly comes with no music player...need a flashable music player
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Yeah don't miss the music player that much though as I use poweramp and neutron with kingbeatz and noozxiode for all my music. I like the usb mode better as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] me_is_rushin:
You're getting a few things confused in there. TW is TouchWiz, TWRP is Team Win Recovery Project, and CWM is ClockworkMod Recovery
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
Pls where can i get them?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Notification lights are still not working since like the early may builds....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Said they aren't planning on fixing them anytime soon. But ayysir said he might try to fix it himself if I quoted him correctly from yesterday.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] HoustonsBirdman:
Really enjoying this ROM, have been using it for months and just flashed the Mr1.. Kinda torn cuz tomorrow I might order a S3 since I can get it for almost nothing at all and give the wife my S2, just don't see as much development happening in the S3 section.. Although I can flash this same ROM on it hehe. Either way, WH has done a superior job and I'm thankful for that!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sgalbincea:
This fixed my issue with USB as well, thank you very much.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] HiM@L:
need feedback...how is the new nightlies coming ?

still SODs and RRs ?

should i just stay on 4/22 ?

thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Guatiao:
Anyone having RRs and/or lockups when there's an app update in Google Play? I've noticed it in the last 3 nightlies maybe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gary93:
May 12 still have sod but not rr. There are some good stuff for ribbon has been updated. Also I think a bit smoother. If you don't need those then stay.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sgalbincea:
When I first flashed MR1 I noticed a RR that seemed to coincide with Google Play being updated to the new version. Beyond that I have not had any issues on MR1 with RR or SOD.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
3 freezes and 2 shut offs
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Latest unofficial build, 3 SOD's. Back to back. It was really annoying no RR's though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mthomas0513:
Anyone having trouble with Google play music? The volume really fluctuates. I lock the screen, a minute later the volume decreases substantially. Go back in to play music, and the desired volume isn't restored until I go into my equalizer setting.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] me_is_rushin:
Are you using some audio mod? That has happened to me with beats I believe
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mthomas0513:
I was, it started doing it, uninstalled it, but still giving me the same issue.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] me_is_rushin:
Shot in the dark but go to settings>audio>and under equalizer switch to musicFx and reboot.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PapaMag:
Tried 5-12 got a SOD not too long after when ending a phone call. Not sure but I think it's kernal issues. I'm back to Milestone mr1 and that's where I'll stay until I can go a few pages or so and not read about RR's and SOD's
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
[MENTION=3051621]Whitehawkx[/MENTION] Is there a link to the stock kernel of the 5-11 build? I want to revert the one I installed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
I am with you I tried 11 through 14 all had issues and I am extreme when I flash a rom. Wipe cache partition, wipe dalvik, format data. format system. wipe data/factory reset all that so I know it ain't on my end. I decided today after being on Liquidsmooth RC9 since November as my main driver that I would upgrade to 4.2.2 after trying about 20 roms in the past two or three weeks. I think Milestone might be the one I ride with myself for now. Been running it all day now so far no problems with it. I had it before but I got off of it because I like scrollable widgets like the cm ones have they look better than the aokp ones but that's not a biggie anymore just looking for stability on a 4.2.2 rom and hopefully this is it.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bobiscool07:
these are nightlies, I don't know why you expect stability. Wait for the milestone 2. :thumbup:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
I actually meant mostly all of the 4.2 roms not just the nightlies.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
5-11 nightly

Ribbon Crashed :(
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] mthomas0513:
When the headphones are plugged in, and I lock the screen the music volume fades, I unlock the screen and go into the equalizer and it the volume automatically goes up. When I am playing music with the phone speakers the volume is always quiet until I turn the equalizer off... Kinda annoying...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Guatiao:
5/15 nightly out...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
Deleted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
5-15 nightly

Text Messaging app crashed after i enabled emoji.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
Benchmark scores on the 5-15 nightly..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
Benchmark score using the 5-11 nightly with [MENTION=5105835]Cl3Kener[/MENTION]'s UBER kernel (nightly 05-13) my best score ever.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
Anyone been able to solve the "multiple tracks in PlayerPro" problem?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gyakusetsu1215:
I haven't had issues there, do you fully wipe? If not, wipe data for media storage and reboot, let media scanner run and you'll be good to go.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
This is the only ROM where I have this issue. I have a backup of an older AOKP, and I always dirty flash over it without having an issue. But for some reason, the tracks are duplicated for some reason but ONLY with this ROM. I'll see if something can fix the issue.

How is the 5/15 release? I've had serious RR and SOD issues.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gyakusetsu1215:
Wiping data to media storage via titanium backup will definitely sort your problem.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
I'll have to check it out, thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] PapaMag:
Not expecting anything, but SOD's and RR's are troublesome where other rom's have not provided this problem for me. Although it's been quite some time since I have ran anything but this one. Really didn't have any of these issues until late April Nightly's. I'm happy where I am
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] me_is_rushin:
When that happens to me I just unmount sd card and remount and reboot.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bobiscool07:
That's fine, what you chose to run is your choice after all. I just said that because everyone was coming, talking about- hey I got 2 rr, 1 sod, or 4 rr, 2 sod etc. Like its a contest to see who's able to keep the nightly more stable. If there is an issues, rr or sod, at least people should provide info on who/why/log of it happening.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DriftorX:
20130512 build with uber 20130513 build have been the best combo for me with zero issues. No SODs or RRs. Every build after 0512 I have issues of SODs and forever long waiting for the home screen to load up and the lastest nightly 20130515 gives me freezing at home screen and no signal issues. Even if I reflash the radio. Not sure exactly what broke everything for me since the 20130512 build. I dirty flash to note since I pretty much do that for everything. No new apps or system changes either.And no issues with dirty flashing until the 0513+ builds. Anyone else having issues like that when dirty flashing next newest build?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] danishdish:
I've done a full wipe before flashing the 15 May nightly and all is well. No issues.

Nice and fast. No SODs or RRs since flashing last night. Noice!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
New build is out. :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] lovewd:
Just wondering, is this more stable than cm10? I had like the latest milestone of this rom, and it was pretty good. Is there anything I should look out for?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] soccerfan6789:
Ha everything. This is a true nightly. The basics work but you'll occasionally get a couple of SOD's or RR's. It can get annoying but its improving gradually. Again nothing to major like data, GPS, ect. not working. Its worth a shot and it has tons of features.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] lovewd:
Yeah, the CM10.1 nightly I am on right now is giving me so many SOD's and RR's. I guess this ROM is worth a shot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gyakusetsu1215:
Would someone be so kind as to post a screenshot of the changelog from tonight's unofficial? My phone was off, didn't get it from aokpush.

Thanks in advance

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
Here ya go!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] DriftorX:
This is in regard to this post that I wrote earlier about things breaking and sods and such.. I think I found out the issue. Since using the newer builds including and after 0513 builds I was using cl3kener uber kernels. And as using such kernel builds I think they were not inline with the updates of whx builds with all the new changes in them so the uber kernels where messing it up. So Ill just have to wait for the next uber build to be made with being inline with the updates I guess to see if that fixes things for me. Currently Im using the whx 0515 test build lastest and using the stock kernel with it and not having any issues at all. I just wish it could oc upto 1.7 or so if I just wanted to oc. But I can wait till cl3kener releases a new uber build.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] hatememarkz:
u know he has a nightly folder right oh sad news i broke my f'ing lcd so now i gotta get a replacement fuuuuhk:rolleyes:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gary93:
See there's "Updated fingerprint to uvmc6", so do we have to flash the radio manually after a clean install?

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rfid4934:
I tried changing LCD density by adding

persist. lcd_density=180

to the build.prop file.

While this worked on the 5/11 build, it seems to make no difference on the 5/15 build.

Any suggestions?

EDIT: never mind I didn't realize that I had installed AOKP nightlies instead of test builds
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] sojay:
The MMS composition using emoji in dark theme UI still dont work...I cant wait for a fix. I like this build however. I used the UBER kernel 5-13 though but it got unstable and i started getting SOD and RR. So i'm going to flash afresh and wait for an updated UBER Kernel or rather wait for another Milestone.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] monkeybuttons:
name: persist.lcd_density

value: whatever you want

Works for me.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Whitehawkx:
It's b/c you have a space after the first period when there shouldn't be.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] bobiscool07:
I've never changed the lcd density before, but searching around, I found the location of the build.prop and editing it etc. So now, I just place that line in it anywhere without touching the other stuff? What's the good number to have it similar to the S3? or is there a max-min number it can be sent to.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] Whitehawkx:
Yes, you can place that line anywhere in the build.prop and it will work (requires reboot). Eventually there will be a setting in RC to set this value quick and easy, but not yet. Not sure what value to use that is similar to S3, however 200 looks really good imo.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] rfid4934:
Thanks. I got it to work after setting it correctly as you pointed out.

Now play store is acting up... Only some installed apps are shown
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
flash this play store
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] fresherthanU:
You do know v4.1.6 is out right?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] richardlibeau:
the one I posted is inverted with blue text not that ugly regular store. But thanks I didn't know that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ackliph:
Where did you find that screen?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
AOKpush app
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] ackliph:
Is anyone having problems starting the GPS? I can start any app that uses GPS, but they won't activate it. They just say searching... The only way I can force them to work is disable and re enable GPS in location settings.

I can see the GPS work when I first boot, but after it ends, apps cannot seem to enable GPS on their own.

I installed latest gapps. Tried the latest radios from TMO and Telus. Tried a full wipe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gary93:
Just tested out. Yes my GPS is not working too :( it doesn't even show me it's searching.

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] FarReach:
Have you guys tried to toggle on and off airplane mode? It's been known to work for data connection issues but I don't know about GPS, it's worth a shot. I'd try it out but I'm on a different Rom right now :eek:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] marscandybars:
Does wifi tethering still require UA Spoofer on chrome or is it patched to work on any browser without spoofing?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] peppersu812:
Tasty new build is out. :thumbup:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] gary93:
Just tried. Didn't work. However, I manage to get it work for now.

What I did was uninstall google map and reinstall it. Once it pop up the improve location thing, tap on setting. There's a different window than under normal setting where you have to turn on the location access. Set it to on. Now it works when both are set to on.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
So what's the difference between the official 5/18 and the test 5/18 release? The official was yesterday and the test just this morning.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] 8Fishes:
Whitehawk's build contains more recent change as you can see from the gerrit changelog.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-T989] stevew84:
Aren't the both whitehawks? One is in the goo test builds and the other in the AOKP official section...both same developer I would assume since they're both in this thread.