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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droidbabyxda:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

why so serious? why all the hate? could've just said back to topic. web forums have a way of morphing into other conversations no need to be so hostile even if they are "isheeps"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] mindmajick:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

I tried steering it back ;)

All-

What android phone should the OP get?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: Decision time... nexus 4, next nexus, or s4

Thank you sir, I'm gonna edit the OP to try to end all this. Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] Jnewell05:
The nexus devices are nice but lack the bare basics in my opinion expandable storage and a removable battery. Its so convenient to carry an extra battery instead of being tethered to a wall or computer. I would get the s4 because I have to have expandable storage. I have a 32gb microsd that barely holds all my pics, movies, music, backups, downloads, etc....

I would prefer the nexus because of the faster updates but doesn't meet my needs. I enjoy stock android, mainly because I bought the first android device T-mobile G1, enjoyed the customization and mods that are fairly simple to do. Every since my G1 , jesusfreeke, and the Cyanogen team back in the day I want that Vanilla android device again.

Just so no one asks what i'm doing with a non nexus device. It had the best specs and nicest looking size/display at the time that I needed an upgrade. (Destroyed my Nexus S and Motorola Atrix)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] crashpsycho:
Re: What phone to get next/info on up-incoming phones

24 hrs later completely off topic and hardware and device insults are coming well...

Mindmajick is right get what u want at the end of then day you will suffer the consequences of your choice lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: What phone to get next/info on up-incoming phones

Kinda sad really... oh well let's get on topic. Lol I know I'll kinda miss the skyrocket later on. It happened with my captivate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] xstokerx:
I got the one xl and had to give it to my wife little development and no soff so not the easyest to flash so I'm back on the sky rocket I like the look of Sony z but its twice the price of a nexus 4 off contract so i m going to wait tell later this year to see what Sammy's up to.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] spitfire2425:
Re: What phone to get next/info on up-incoming phones

I hate how hard an HTC phone is to mess with. Takes forever to get s-off and unlock the bootloader. Samsung and nexus devices are so easy compared to everyone else.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
It's a great device. Screen is actually way nicer than I thought. The Nexus 5 should be really similar. If it really retails for 399 it's worth the extra 200 to me not to have to play ATTs games.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] dakpluto:
I'm really not liking the back of the Nexus phone in all of the leaks so far.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lowao:
I have been thinking about upgrading as well. The newer Galaxy phones look amazing and those screens from the Notes makes my mouth water. However I just started Rooting phones & and installing Custom Roms which it has brought new life to my device. [Fresh & Slim 1.3 on the Skyrocket], but I am having issues with some apps. Although, I still have my Nexus 7 to play with as well. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Well, as you may have seen in the off topic thread already, I jumped ship to the LG G2 and, boy, do I not have any complaints. This has been a great device so far. Last night, I looked at my battery stats and had 15 1\2 hours up time with 6 1\2 hours screen time and still had almost 40% battery left. It's crazy good. I had 5 hours before I even dropped to 99%, granted, I had only sent a few texts and checked one email but still... 5 hours per one percent drop in standby is amazing by my standards.

My biggest worry when jumping was the OS and/or dev support, but currently, many of the reasons I wanted custom roms for anyway are already built into the phone. My biggest complaint so far, not enough cases to choose from yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Glad your happy with it man. Now stop tempting me. I'm trying really hard to hold out till the end of the month. Gotta at least see the Nexus 5 before I get the G2. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Haha! You can see it now, they leaked the manual. Also, they just posted a link to jelly bam for the att model. Let the aosp flood begin;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
If the specs in the manual are true, they're good enough for my standards and that's what I'll be getting. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
I'll just leave these here for you to ponder. Granted, I only have 13 minutes of screen time, but 6 hours with no drop is insane!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Sorry, it didn't upload the first pig for some reason.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] epapsiou:
Keep us posted on G2. I guess lot of us will be jumping ship and the choice is not that clear. GN3, G2, Nexus5.

It is hard to find a good comparison between these devices other than specs
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jondroid2:
Might have to add this one to the list. LG G2 Google edition rumour. 3 GB RAM and 4.4 KitKat out of the box:)

http://www.phonesreview.co.uk/2013/10/11/lg-g2-google-edition-rumour-suggests-more-power/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TheCybertronian:
I'm half tempted to not do anything until the first real x64 android phone, performance won't change much but just for s's and g's
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
I've had my eye of the lg g2 as well as the sony z1. Not sure which to get at this point. G2 is non expandable but the battery reports are insane, in contrast to the Z1, which gets worse life than my current i717 OG Note.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TheCybertronian:
As an ingress player battery life no longer exists for me :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
In regards to the non-expandable storage, it was a big concern for me when choosing the G2. Now that I've had this phone for a few weeks, it really hasn't been a issue. With the battery life I'm getting on this phone, I have no 2nd thoughts of streaming my music from Google music. Before this phone, I used almost all of a 32gig SD to hold music because I was always concerned with streaming killing my battery. It is literally a non-factor for me now. I believe that the lowest battery level I've reached since getting this device is 27%, and that was with something around 16 hours up time and around 7.25 hours of screen time and a couple hours streaming tunes. I am VERY pleased with this device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
I'll just leave this here... http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...99-through-amazon-for-new-lines-and-upgrades/

Also, best buy is running the same deal plus a $50 gift card if you trade in your old phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
LOL. Your becoming the best LG sales rep on XDA. I really do like the device but as I've said before I'm holding out for the Nexus 5. If that falls short I've also been looking at the Korean variant of the G2. Smaller battery and memory but it has a micro sd slot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Haha! Yeah, I don't know if I'm just trying to get the skyrocket type community over there since this was seriously the best collaborative community I've run across on xda, or if I just really love this device that much. Either way, I have become a g2 fanboy of sorts.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
The gift card according to my email is actually based on the phone you're trading in. The Skyrocket, in good condition, is worth 75$.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
And let the floodgates be opened!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
Got the note 3 and for now I'm quite happy. Screen us amazing, as is camera, and the cpu flies
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_5_16GB_Black?id=nexus_5_black_16gb
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
I just ordered the black 32GB. I've saved up since I knew I really wanted to try a Nexus. Like I've said upthread I'm done with ATT and it's locked bootloaders. It's supposed to ship by the 8th but I'm hoping to see it sooner. As soon as it's in my hands I'll give you some first impressions.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
I want a Nexus 5 :(

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
I'm curious to know what you think. I almost ordered one yesterday but the rocket is still running too good to justify a new phone. I was a click away.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
I hear ya. I didn't "need" a new phone by any stretch., I did, however, want one. lol I figure if the battery sucks I can either return it within 15 days to Google or sell it an fleabay. 600 on ebay seems like it would be pretty easy to get. I think I'll most likely keep it though unless the battery life is exceptionally bad.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
I pushed the button on a 32 Gb. Nexus 5 here I go. Hope I like it as much as the rocket. Development on it it's already taking off. A little like the wild west but it'll settle down.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Cool. Don't count on it settling down though. It's gonna be a moderation nightmare. Threads are growing by pages in the time it takes to type up a response. On the plus side it is going to have a ton of ROMs super fast. Still waiting on Google to ship mine for now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] rodmc123:
i dont know if i should change this phone or not.. im in stock 4.1.2 and it works really smooth.. ive used an htc one and i dont see big differences in performance overall (im not talking about benchmarks).. the only thing right now that makes me want to change this phone is the battery life.. maybe a nexus 5 it is a good idea.. sadly it has an IPS screen.. i love amoled displays.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droid512:
i just bit the bullet and bought mine. So now I wait the 2-3 weeks :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
Perfect, time for development to get going and learn about it. Mine is 2-3 weeks too. I'd probably do something stupid with it if i didn't have the time to do the research.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] kiedlywiedis:
Nexus 5 looks pretty sexy, but I can't justify buying a new phone right now when this one still works, and plus I'll probably get a good discount come contract upgrade time in six months or so.. Probably end up with an S4, or maybe an HTC One.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
I've had an eligible upgrade since July but haven't been dead set on any phone that's been put out. I'll be getting a 5 at some point tho, done with phones from att.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Yep. I'm still on contract until February. Once I'm done I cancel ATT and move to straight talk. Between my wife and I we'll save over 70 bucks a month or 840 a year. That's just enough to buy two N6's when they come out a year from now. I know ATT could care less about loosing a few tech geeks who are pissed about locked bootloaders. However there might be more "tech geeks" than they thought.,:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] droid512:
I got my shipping notification... should arrive on wednesday!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jondroid2:
Would be awesome if some of you that get the N5 earlier can post some battery usage #'s after a couple days:)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Theres about 30 battery threads in the N5 general section. Looks like it's pretty good for the size of the battery. Most people are reporting between 4-6 hours of screen on time. I'll have mine by Friday so I'll report back Sunday sometime.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] aexda:
My contract isn't up until a few more months. I was gonna get the nexus 5 but the whole 18 month support life kinda bothered me. I'll probably still get it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] icenight89:
agreed, it should be 24
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
There are plenty of devs on the n5 so even if Google doesn't support it it will be supported. Just look at the rocket, how long was it officially supported and now we have 4.4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Yep. The N5 will see support for a long time unofficially. I hope the Rocket does as well. This is a great forum. One that I plan to stay a part of even though I now have the N5 in my hands. I could sell the Rocket but I'd rather have it to play with. Now on to the N5.

I got mine in the mail yesterday. So these are my first impressions.

The build quality is on par with any top end cell phone. The matte finish makes it less likely to not have it slip out of your hands.

The phone is obviously fast as fast can get right now.

The screen is responsive. Although if your used to amoled screens it's a bit "washed" Hoping some gamma corrections will soon fix this.

The speaker isn't the loudest but you can hear it while making dinner. Again, custom kernels already available to increase the gain.

Camera takes pretty good pictures without any fussing with the settings. I'm not really a photo guy though so take what you will from that one.

GPS locked first go in about ten seconds. Accuracy to 3m indoors.

The 5GHz wifi band reception is excellent compared to the Rocket. Haven't tested the 2.4 band but I'm sure it's just as good.

Bluetooth range seems to a little better then the Rocket.

OTG working with custom kernels. Haven't tried it yet on stock but people are saying it does work out of the box.

Now the battery. I fully charged the phone before first boot. I ran the phone hard doing the set up, testing stability, music over bluetooth and tons of gaming. Just under 3 hours of screen on in six hours of up time. Still was sitting pretty at 40%. I charged again at 40%. Left it sitting unplugged this morning to test the sleep states. 9.5 hours since unplugged and battery is at 96%. Granted that is with zero usage but I'd say it's pretty efficient when in sleep.

OK I'm going back to playing with my phone now.:cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Here's a skyrocket exclusive. You guys are such a great group to have hung out with I figured I'd share these here. Lots of people on the N5 forums are just plain whiners. These are after the 3rd charging cycle of the N5. Stock ROM with Faux beta kernel. On Wifi the entire time and almost no phone calls. I'm still pretty impressed. So for those of you still deciding hope this helps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TheCybertronian:
Was expecting better honestly, if that's 100% on WiFi I'm a bit underwhelmed. Great phone but I'm betting I could get more out of her.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
LOL. That's with the stock ROM. Once DU makes it's way over there I'm expecting a lot better. I'll do a cell only run to see how that goes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] asharx:
This is my next phone! I am not on contracts and I can't justify spending 600 - 700 for the latest and greatest phone. But buying the old latest and greatest phone used for $150, that I can handle.

I am coming from a Samsung Galaxy GIO.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] chas101:
I’m stuck on the fence about buying a new N5. With CM 11 coming what do I really gain? I know the screen has higher resolution but is only ¼ inch longer and the processor is faster. I use my tablet, not phone for games and video so I’m not sure I get much benefit from this. I get over a days battery life on the skyrocket with the 2100 MA battery. Are there advantages I’m missing? I really want one, just trying to justify the $400
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Updates directly from Google rather than having to wait on your carrier. Great dev support.. but we have this too. Basically, it's just more up to date.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] TheCybertronian:
I need a powerful ingress scanner so I'm still unsure as to what device I wish to buy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] epapsiou:
moto g

What about moto g. Cheap and hopefully lots of dev on it
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
I'm thinking of going either for an LG G2 or a Nexus 5.. Haven't decided which one to go for yet.. What phone in the G2 class has a removable battery?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
You're worried about the battery not being removable in the G2? From what I've seen, it's pretty beast. But I'd say S4 maybe.. If I understand your question correctly.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WhatzinyourphonE:
With the way its looking the N5 is the best option for custom users right. Can't get better developer support than that
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
I think he's looking for a phone with the S800 processor and a removable battery. If that's the case the Note 3 is the only one I can think of. Both the G2 and N5 as well as the Z1 all have non removable batteries. It's gonna be the future of phones I think. You can still replace them it's just a PIA. Not really that great for a super heavy user that carries around two or three spare batteries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
Oh yeah it's a beast as well as it's battery is a beast.

The thing is I like being able to *turn off* my devices like back in the day. Not just seeing the text "your phone is shutting down" while it's actually in standby.

What makes you say that?

About the G2, do you think it will have restrictions like bootlock etc?

When I talk about the G2 class I simply mean a phone in that powerclass with a removable battery.

I'm not buying a Note though, that is out of the question, but thanks for the suggestion.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Yes, it has a locked bootloader, but also has a loki patch which allows twrp, cwm, and custom roms. I'm currently running carbon on the at&t variant and it has official cm. I can also currently run paranoid android, slim bean, and a few others. Plus, there are many versions of the stock roms similar to what Seanscreams did with his skyics builds.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
LG hasn't updated yet to fix the LOKI exploit? Sweet. I hope they stick it to ATT and don't push an update at all. The S4 exploit was patched within a week.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] bps119:
Nope, no fix for it yet. Get it sooner rather than later would be my advice do anyone planning to get it though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
That's good advice. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WhatzinyourphonE:
So what would be the difference between the two? Because Ive been looking the G2
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
G2 has a bigger battery, bigger screen. Cheaper with a new contract by a few hundred.

N5 dev support out the arse. It's a flashaholics dream.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
I'm planning to get the g2 myself. Holding out for black Friday to catch a deal. If I can't get that, I MIGHT settle with a moto x. $49 at Walmart with a $100 gift card.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WhatzinyourphonE:
N5 is looking better now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
Mine shipped last night. Yee ha!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] theesotericone:
Next day or regular? I'm and idiot and didn't choose two day delivery. It felt like an eternity before I had that thing in my hands. Either way you'll be impressed to finally get it. Here's a little self control challenge for you. When you get it take it out of the box and fully charge it while off. I did and am getting exceptional battery life. I know better then to believe that that actually made a difference but it is fun to see how long you can wait. lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
It's supposed to be here Mon. I'll probably get it after work so maybe I'll just charge it over night, but probably not:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
Ok. I'm not really into that yet-another-flavor-of-aosp/cm scene. I'd like there to be an actual FIRMware first. Then you can have an AOSP rom and say wow now there's a difference. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, the N5 comes with AOSP out of the box.

Yeah I don't really get the point of those distros. To me it's like "hay guys herez mah beeld of CM bcuz i canz KEWL RITE?!". PACMAN and PA I understand, but all those other takes on CM & AOSP? I. DON'T. GET. IT.

Anyway, if I'm getting this phone it'll be the european version, if that makes a difference.

Bah, once the exploit is fixed another exploit will pop up.

The N5 is way cheaper if you pay cash. Like waaay cheaper.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Don't count on it. They patched the S4 exploit with an OTA and I don't think another has been discovered.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
I seriously was looking at the i337 but with every update is been locked down tighter and tighter. The current firmware had no root and no way to customize. The previous firmware had a very limited recovery to flash a very limited amount of custom roms. I don't think they'll find an exploit for the newer firmwares and the devs are going to get tired of trying and go somewhere else. That's my opinion of course but it's not a fun phone to own right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] gdog12356:
I am hopefully going to get the note 3. Only because I really want the stylus and the screen size. Otherwise I don't really like close backed phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
What S4 specifically? A US carrier version? The Swedish carriers are not even half as bad as the American ones. :victory:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
The i9500 or i9505 is not as bad. But Samsung is pushing out Knox which limit what you'll be able to do with the phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lazer77:
Yeah, US carriers I'm pretty sure.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
As far as I know Knox' won't be doing what you just said it would. :confused:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Knox
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] WhatzinyourphonE:
Maybe that's the reason google chose lg to build their phones. Samsung wanted to close up security on their devices. Bad samsung, bad samsung

P.A.C Man
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] lingowistico:
I think they chose LG just to make the rounds, it's a tradition to change the Nexus OEM after a while.

As I've just pointed out Samsung KNOX will not restrict what you'll be able to do with your device.

"Samsung KNOX is an enterprise mobile security solution" :silly: :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727] jd1639:
Knox won't directly influence what you can do with your device. But having root does compromise the security of your device. Knox isn't going to be happy with that.