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[HTC Desire S] chorba69:
Hi. One question about multitasking. Is it possible to have more than one app opened in background so when I go to it (via recent apps or somethin) that it doesn't load from the beggining again. I mean, I have now ViperSaga rom on my DS and I cant have more than one, maybe two apps in background. Every time I open the background app it loads from the beggining and its kinda annoying when big webpage needs to load over and over. When I had cm10.1 I could have 5-6, even more apps in background but on Viper or Fallout no way. Is it cause of sense? Thanks

One thing more. Is it possible to flash the camera apk from Fallout or Viper saga on cm10.1? Since I dont like the camera on cm10.1 and 3rd party cameras on market arent so good for me. Cheers
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
play around with your min free values. it helps a lot. check out v6 supercharger

Sent from my supercharged :tank:

---------- Post added at 10:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 PM ----------

hhmmm.... interesting. the OP didn't state that I have to add that line.. I might have to try this weekend. also, I have to add this..

<string name="permlab_externalTaskSwitcher">Start as an external task switcher</string>
<string name="permdesc_externalTaskSwitcher">Allows the application to be an external task switcher replacing the native task switcher</string>
<string name="permlab_smallapp">Small application overlay</string>
<string name="permdesc_smallapp">Allows running movable small applications on top of other applications.</string>

. do I add it after <resources> or before resources? OP tells me that I have to add it at the end of the file, but I suppose I have to add the code above <resources>? thanks for helping btw

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
Re: Desire S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting > [Desire S HELP THREAD] Ask any question (

good evening gentlemen...

I wanted to ask if somebody tried ( or heard maybe ) and succeeded

to enable onscreen bottom navbar, on a sense 4.1 rom for our device...

I`ve already found few things while stalking on a search box a while,

but they all- in the end- either throw back an error,

or end in a bootloop...

What i`ve learned at least, is that with apktool1.5.2, one can recompile and build back

an ICS apk without a ussual headache- and that is sweet enough,

yet does not bring me towards any fruitful conclusion even a b****y inch

Edit: found some more tools and info (much more ), will try it....it seems XDA is full of wonders...

...but whether i`ll eventually manage to bite through it or not,

sugestions still are highly appreciated...

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] NVardan:
I tried once through editing the build.prop. The only thing I got was a 3 dot menu key at the bottom of the screen. I think it's because HTC doesn't have any devices with software keys on ICS and Sense4. But I'm not sure though.
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
on a sense 4.1 ports- including Viper,

inside SystemUI.apk /resources/dravable hdpi, are needed png`s,

in framework-res.apk resources/values/bools.xml there is a line:

<bool name="config_showNavigationBar">false</bool>

and of course a line added in build prop....qemu.hw.mainkeys=0

on HOX, for example, there is a possibility to enable it...( not to mention other-non skinned systems )

( one can even play with its hight )

and viper is " simply " a port of that system....so....

It is framework-res that gives me bootloops....

but i think i found a way to rebuild it properly, so it could be replaced,

Still, there might be something to it i`m not yet aware of...

Edit: device is now booting with a new framework- as if nothing has been changed,

there is a black bar at the bottom of the screen,

unfortunately not even a single arrow on it, but a three dot menu- so far...

... a new < ApkChanger > does its job quite well though,

not a single apk is going to thwart me now:victory:
[HTC Desire S] otterbvrn:
Hi, I just wonder

I charge my phone on power on, but on deepsleep, (the apps I leave in background are setcpu greenify and uccw, sync is on) till full (100%) take 6-7 hours

But

When I charge it on power off it takes 3-3.5 hours

my battery is default htc saga, I'm on miui 3.5.24. So, is it safe? If it is not, why does this happen?

Thankyou
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
well.. if i understood your question correctly,

you`re asking why your device`s battery charges faster when the phone is off...

it seems perfectly normal- its not busy with anything but filling itself with charge...

I`d argue about the time it takes to fully load... mine does it within 2.5- 3 hours

on a booted phone.

while off, i haven`t got an opportunity to check,

because the moment it is been plugged in, the phone reboots to recovery...
[HTC Desire S] otterbvrn:
Yeaah... I'm just concerned whether this is time to change my battery
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
..." the question is not: how far...

the question is:

do you possess the constitution, and the depth of faith,

to go as far as is needed :...

just joking:D....

if you thing a battery charge, lasts much less than it use to,

to the point of becoming an anoyance to you,

perhaps , the time has come to look for another one....
[HTC Desire S] otterbvrn:
First, I think the battery annoys me, takes charge time twice longer on power on than power off

Second, comparing now and the start I bought this saga, time to empty the battery is not much different than to charge...
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
[MENTION=4665306]jugg1es[/MENTION], eh no help for me? no? I remembered that [MENTION=1344833]lowveld[/MENTION] said that he will help you if you had any problems with your app making few weeks back. maybe he could help me with this problem? so... lemme tag him..

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Got the tag :) Bit do you mind telling me the issue so I don't have to track it down myself?

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42273744

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42195535

thanks btw

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] knucklesdey:
Hey everyone. If anyone could help me.. that would be awesome. I had my desire s unlocked, but S-ON. HBOOT-2.00.0002. So i tried to downgrade it and get it S-OFF,to flash new roms. I don't pretty much know what i did, but i followed step "Modifying the version of your phone" from this thread: forum.xda-developers(dot)com/showthread.php?t=1318919 and step 3 from this one: mihaiush.wordpress(dot)com/2012/08/20/htc-desire-s-s-off-hboot-2-00-002/ all i did was downloading misc_version from the first one, pushed the codes in adb then i downloaded zergrush from the second one, followed by the codes. Then i added "fastboot oem lock". Now, on bootloader, it shows me ***RELOCKED*** and ***Security Warning***. Tried to downgrade, but my RUU detects 14.something for a version, instead of 1.27.405.6, as said in the first thread ("c. The RUU must detect your phone version as 1.27.405.6") so i didn't click on upgrade ROM. Now i can't even install twrp recovery to try to restore the backup i had.. Anyone knows what should i do? Shall i click update ROM when asked by RUU? I forgot to mention when i choose reboot or recovery on fastboot it just reboots into fastboot.
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
Ok,this post is off topic,but still I want to thank the Desire S community for my time here.i have gotten a new device,I will be selling this DS:(.the past 6 months was really pleasant here and I learned many things along the way . special thanks to [MENTION=4309996]SimonTS[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4455086]rain987[/MENTION] for unbricking my DS when I first flash viper rom.(did not flash boot.img,LOL.common mistake made here and not much reading and googling used)many thanks to [MENTION=4665306]jugg1es[/MENTION] for creating this thread to help noobs like me.i actually laughed at myself for asking stupid questions during my time here.i actually created a thread asking how to s off,even though i was just trying to unlock the bootloader.i will hanging around, though I will be selling this device...i am wondering whether to put back this device back to complete stock and let another new noob ask how to root and how to flash roms(even though it is already s off).selling on ebay can't fetch me much either...oh well...i think i should just enjoy my new device and stop fretting about issues :)

Regards
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
why theres a big diffrence in camera quality of stock sense 3.6 and sense 4.1..??
[HTC Desire S] Nemisia:
I have flashed this rom several weeks ago:

[ROM][JB][Apr16,2013][AokpRedefined Saga v2.1] CM and AOKP fusion [Real smoothness]

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2257559

I realy like this rom, very smooth. But I say that there was a newer rom out by the same developer:

[ROM][GCC 4.7/-O3][JB- 4.2.2] Revolution - saga 05|01|13

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2257559

Is the "newer" rom better, more stable than the rom I have currently flashed??
[HTC Desire S] akshatir:
hi people i have never used a sense 3.6 rom before but recently camera has become an important feature for me. Ive heard that ice ds rom is based on official RUU the camera quality is best as compared to other ICS roms available. I wanted to flash the V6.5 as ive found its the most stable one but I had one doubt which is will wifi hotspot work without any issues on this rom as it is anothr imp feature fr me if not then with which kernel is that possible
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
bump! [MENTION=1344833]lowveld[/MENTION]

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] Mustang243:
I can´t to find the newest version. Care to show me where I can download the latest version? Or can I just install the RC5 and then use the updater which can be found 4ext.net home page?
[HTC Desire S] jmcclue:
Look in Desire s general thread, i posted latest 4ext recovery as PG88IMG, just extract the zip file, then flash recovery.img via fastboot or if ur s-off just put the PG88IMG.zip on ur sdcard (not in a folder) boot into bootloader and bootloader will find PG88IMG and ask to update recovery? Volume up for yes
[HTC Desire S] Mustang243:
Will do. Thanks again :highfive:
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I use these kernels with sense roms, i use wifi hotspot quite a bit, read the whole op carefully http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=30507159

"In today’s job climate, you can’t afford to be a vanilla sundae. You need to be a banana split." - Peter McCarthy
[HTC Desire S] jmcclue:
Is there any other modded kernels for sense 4.1?
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
None that i`ve heard of, except those maybe,

coming with the earliest versions of sense 4.1 ports,..

( not 100% sure if they were not from the same dev though )
[HTC Desire S] jmcclue:
Was spoiled for choice with the old htc desire lol. Yh thought id ask coz i seen none either.
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
okay im here now tell me the solution to fix the camera quality of svhd rom?
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
1. i`m not sure whether this`ll improve quality of the pictures,

in SVHD thread i quoted the reasons...

2. Camera>

- open an update zip :

inside, you`ll find a "tree" like this:

/system/ -open it

/app/ -folder with camera.apk

/lib/ -folder with< libxxxx.so > files

/lib/hw -folder with .so - camera related files

...now, you have two choices:

1.push via adb:

-copy camera apk, lib files from <lib > folder, .so files from </lib/hw > folder

to the folder on pc, where you have ADB ( do not close it in any folder- just where ADB is )

2.Open CMD and redirect:

cd c:\full path to the folder with adb [enter]

connect your device (wire ) and issue commands:

adb devices

adb reboot recovery ( when there already make nandroid backup first )

adb push Camera.apk /system/app [enter]

adb push libcamera_client.so /system/lib [enter]

push this same way the other libs to the phone to /system/lib )

3. now you have to fix permissions

i`m using cwm, then i have <fix permittions> tab under< advanced> menu,

but if you use other recovery you must seek < fix permissions > tab yourself...

or fix it via ADB- but in recovery is quicker and easier;)

when fixed, in CMD issue command:

adb reboot

check if the camera works,- if not:

1. copy files also from <hw> folder (xxx_xxx_2.0.1.zip )

place them in a folder with adb (pc )

2.reboot device to recovery again

3. issue commands:

adb push camera.default.so /system/lib/hw [enter]

- push the rest of the files from <hw> folder the same way,

- fix permissions

-reboot

,,,,root explorer method:

( more time consuming )

1.extract the zip fileon your device`s sd card

2.manually replace all files from /sdcard/ location,

to the corresponding locations in system folder:

- /system/app Camera.apk

- /system/lib

libcamera_client.so

libcameraface.so

libcamerapp.so

libcameraservice.so

libhtccamera.so

liboemcamera.so

/system/lib/hw

hwcomposer.msm7x30.so

gralloc.msm7x30.so

camera.default.so

After replacing,reboot to recovery

fix permissions

reboot device...

if the camera is non functional now:

- try to clear app data within GUI:

settings-> apps-> camera-> clear data...

if that would not revive your device`s camera either,

restore nandroid backup you`ve surrely made before

the whole procedure...

either complete restore or -> advance restore-> restore system only...

and that would be all;)
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
ICS came late to a small and dwindling saga dev community, by the time the kernel 3 stuff was out most people had moved on to other devices. Amidabuddha has done a wonderful job with the kernel but it's probably going to end there unless someone with a saga can develop it further. It didn't help the cm kernel devs with the huge split in specs that came from the mixed panels.

"In today’s job climate, you can’t afford to be a vanilla sundae. You need to be a banana split." - Peter McCarthy
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I've not flashed either but i can say that "better" is a very subjective term here. It's all about what's best for you, the only way to figure that out is to take a nandroid and flash it to see if it suits you better.

"In today’s job climate, you can’t afford to be a vanilla sundae. You need to be a banana split." - Peter McCarthy
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
can i use diffrent kernels with diffrent roms..??and for changing kernel what i have to do..??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
you can only use sense roms with sense kernel. AOSP kernels with AOSP based roms. changing kernel is easy. if you are s off, just flash zip. if you are s on, flash the boot.img and zip
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
can I use sense 4.1 rom kernel with stock ics Rom..??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
yea
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
Gentlemen....

does anybody know, or seen, or heard,

how to mod sense 4.1 app ( like system settings app for starters ) background to make it transparent,

i`ve seen tutorials on how to, but they all apply to sense 3.6,

since then, xml s must have changed,

there are some mods available for JB based sense 4.1 systems,

and i must admit, i was digging inside it contents as well,

but comparing each line and value is like trying to find a needle in an Amazon jungle,...

...so, i was wondering whether some mercyful being, might perhaps

point me in to some direction ...
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
temple run 2 lags on stock ics Rom can you tell me the solution for it..??
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
perhaps i might be wrong on this, but..

stock ics is sense 3.6 based

we have kernels for 3.6,

and we have also kernels for 4+

so, i do not think its a good idea to use 3.6 rom

with 4+ kernel, if only for the sake of the drivers included

you know -even it that worked= no wifi, hotspot etc...

Edit: when you look inside amidabuddha`s kernel.zip

they are all carefully indicated for which sense version they are...

try to use V6 supercharger

or

[GB&ICS&JB][ALL DEVICES] INFINITY Engine 2.1 Super Edition | fly up your phone !
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
hmm... forgive me if I am wrong. but amidabuddha kernel is based on HTC ics source code. so it's just a few drivers related stuff... I am not sure as I have never used stock ics. oh wait maybe ice cream saga... regarding your modding, we need a sense expert. which is... [MENTION=1344833]lowveld[/MENTION]!any help for me and [MENTION=3427632]asgardr[/MENTION]?
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
thanks a lot and tell me one thing more I want the keyboard which comes on svhd Rom on my stock ics can we install that ..??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
extract from the ruu and install it
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
I am using stock ics and I want svhd Rom keyboard on my stock please tell me in detail please..??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
ohhh must have misunderstood you. extract the keyboard IME(I think not too sure) from svhd

Sent from my supercharged :tank:
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
in which directory I will find it..?? I mean in which folder .??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
ok, this is coming right out of my head. the exact name is LatinIME.apk. it is located in /system /app. I think it may need some frameworks, I am not too sure
[HTC Desire S] lowveld:
Do not try using kernels not specific to the rom you are using, unless you know very well what you are doing. From some of the questions I've read around here, that is no the case... :) (really no offense!)

Some of the hardest work that has been done around here is porting kernel source code to other devices. There is no such thing as "try the kernel from HTC OneXXX to see if it's working". You have to understand that much of the java code in the rom is linked to the C libraries in the rom, which expect specific kernel features (this is where the "copy tose *.so and cross your fingers" approach comes).

Bottom line: stick to amidabuddha's kernel. You really have nothing to gain moving away from there.

Cheers
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
glad to see you here. any help? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42365259
[HTC Desire S] davelinc:
I don't know if this is a hardware or software issue but whenever I make a phone call I can hear them perfectly yet they can barely hear me which is obviously annoying for both of us. This has been a consistent problem on the stock rom as well as various other ones. Any ideas would be really appreciated. Thanks.

Sent from my CyanogenFire Hd
[HTC Desire S] asgardr:
If you were not sure,

- you may either reflash the rom with all the wipes before it-included,

(you may even try to change recovery on board - for that)

-reflash stock- but i mean- as properly as it asks for,

and see whether mic. problem persists,...

-may even upgrade, device`s hboot and radio

( except, whe you already have...

...( all the above are, only half measures however,

and do not guarantee anything,

its- hit or miss- to tell you the truth )...

When -to no avail,-try to get use to the thought, of some hardware failure...

Edit: when has / `d the issue started

and , on which rom,first,

what is the device`s hboot and radio version,

this is a ussual info you may provide, to make live- of those who read

and answer- a little easier;)
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
can you tell me how to use these ..??
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
i would recommend v6.to tell you the truth many scripts use zeppelinrox ideas and designs to craft their scripts.

v6 supercharger is easy to apply. just follow the script output, also read the OP of Zeppelinrox thread.
[HTC Desire S] undercover:
From multiple feedback v6 does very little or nothing to improve performance.
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I've tried v6 script on a few roms during this last 6 months or so, personally I've found that initially it appears to speed up boot and application switching. However after a period of a few days or so it doesn't have any real time effect on anything I've tried it with. Just my tuppence worth

Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.

Ryan Stiles
[HTC Desire S] Talha7866:
so it means I have to go for infinity engine 2.1
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
multiple feedbacks? are those reliable sources :p
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
Oh yes, i know a couple of those reliable sources. We have discussed the tweaks at great length in the past. Haven't we [MENTION=3038832]undercover[/MENTION]

Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.

Ryan Stiles
[HTC Desire S] undercover:
We have indeed. And even before I knew you and spent loads of time tinkering with my Sensation.
[HTC Desire S] elfrulz:
Hi guys,

So, I am having a bit of a problem with my Desire S. I think my touchscreen/digitizer is busted because it keeps pressing buttons and starting apps out of the blue without me even pressing the God damn screen. The question is this : do i need to change the display as well or just the touchscreen/digitizer? The display is in perfect condition, very bright and not a single busted pixel or stuff like that.

Thank you! Cheers!
[HTC Desire S] jmcclue:
Yh i changed my digitizer bout 2 weeks ago, part of my screen at the top was dead and it would open apps etc randomly. So i baught new digitizer off ebay for £10, fitted it myself and now my screen is perfect. So yh ul just need the digitizer.
[HTC Desire S] Px80:
Thats good to know!

Thanks

anything specfic about performance you can tell about turbo boost?
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
I've not used the triple swap yet, it's very different to how v6 works though. The theory of swap is very sound and shouldn't have a negative impact on the write life of the partitions used, no more than the constant flashing we already do.

Never interrupt me when I'm eating a banana.

Ryan Stiles
[HTC Desire S] razi914:
Anyone knows how to fix standby battery drain in Cm10 4.1.2 flinny build?
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
What does bbs say about it?

Jokes gets more serious thought, than serious words these days:(
[HTC Desire S] razi914:
it usually says , connectivity service, deleted wakelocks,, power manager service ,wlan rx wake
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
How much are you losing overnight? Is you wifi on all the time?

Jokes gets more serious thought, than serious words these days:(
[HTC Desire S] razi914:
6 to 10 percent i think ,, yes i have switched on my wifi all the time bcoz i heard it saves battery!
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
:what:switching wifi on the time safes battery? source of information?

btw [MENTION=4665306]jugg1es[/MENTION] could you ask some of your OT friends to help me with my issue I posted weeks ago?

edit : anyone has a rom.zip and recovery.zip from WWE RUU? I don't wanna download the whole RUU
[HTC Desire S] razi914:
Read the 10-20 pages of flinny 133 build !
[HTC Desire S] jugg1es:
i shall ask, no promises though. Is it this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=42195535

Ok, switch it off for one night. No data either ;) just let it sleep and let me know how much you lose overnight. Do you use Google now?

Jokes gets more serious thought, than serious words these days:(
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
Yep!
[HTC Desire S] hisname:
i read page 10-20, gosh, nobody said anything about wifi though...
[HTC Desire S] razi914:
Read 30 pages back more , or simply search!
[HTC Desire S] DSoundso:
Hi there. I'm having trouble with rooting my girlfriends device. I am a noob to htc devices but it shouldn't be that difficult.

I've tried superoneclick, unrevoked and gingerbreak all in their current releases. Only superoneclick seemed to work but after it said "Would you like to test...su.." nothing happened.

Is a unlocked bootloader necessary for root? I don't want to do that because of the lost of personal data as it's written at htc.com. Quite the opposite is my goal. I want to make a nandroid backup an maybe deleting some preinstalled software.

So any guesses why those three methods didn't work out?
[HTC Desire S] teadrinker:
If the phone has been updated to ics (by ruu), then there's no way to root it without unlocking the bootloader.

If not, look for guides to downgrade the hboot version (though that way you would lose the data too I think) (but if temp root is enough, you could just use zergrush)
[HTC Desire S] Fastrite:
BillGoss (moved on to another device) had some good info/posts and settings & regarding battery usage in the CM10 thread mentioned by razi, but that was 4.1 not 4.2.