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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Note 2 really is the perfect size to me. I was able to upgrade Jan 1 and was gonna wait for the gs4 but I'm glad I didn't. Note 3 screen will probably be 6 plus in but this will do for quite some time.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] epic559:
That's giving apple a fighting chance like I said
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
The octa-core processor isn't a true 8-core processor, it's a 1.6 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A15 in coordination with a 1.2 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffix31:
it shocks me that everyone can so easily say they will just go to the note. dont get me wrong i love all of the features of the note and i am sure the note2 is ridic and the note three will be an absolute beast. the problem is that it is a beast in your pocket. i was toying with the idea of a note. someone said its not that big. f that. when i was waiting for a phone repair i was playing around with it. that thing is huge. i dont think i could every get used to something like that as my everyday carry around with me device. its huge. i may as well get a nexus 7. i know its the next logical step from the s4 but they are hardly camparable given the size difference. the s4 is going to be insane. lets get some hands on reviews of it before we start knocking the thing. not the reviews from the show where they report some bugs and what not. reviews of ready for market product. samsung did a lot with the software. i am sure the thing will fly. what could you possible be doing with your phone that it really is going to make that big of a difference where you would disregard the option to have 4g lte which is rapidly expanding throughout the country. my upgrade is up in july and i will be jumping on the s4 for sure. :eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] epic559:
Regardless its faster then what ever the hell there giving us here crazy where the biggest market we buy more samsung devices then any1 but we get the weaker vesion
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
You really think 5.5 is so much bigger than 5in ??? Really?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] cuezaireekaa:
i too thought that(too large). you get used to it after a while i swear. ask any note2 user. not just the biased ones ;P andit feels just right imo after you do. while 5" is a good size for a phone, a dont think i can go back to anything under 5.5 now. i love all the screen real estate. and onehanded use is a breeze with just changing a couple settings. ive an upgrade on my galaxyii in sept so if the note 3 isnt gonna be 6+ inches, i will head that way because i didnt think i would use the pen that much. boy was i wrong. i love that thing!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Exactly my point lol. 5.5 is no different than 5. You would never know the difference.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] epic559:
Biger is better lol and its gonna be way better in more then just the size aspect I'm sure itl have eye scrolling unlike the s4 and what ever else they wernt able to put in the s4
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graffix31:
it may be 5 but it is the same size as an s3 with less of a bezel. the s3 is much smaller than a note2. i hear what your saying and i am sure i would get used to is. i do love the idea of the s-pen and i do think i would use it alot. but the note looks like it wouldnt even fit in my pocket. it is really big,
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Hey it's all a matter of preference. The gs3 was a bit smaller but my point is when you get up around 5 to 5.5 there's not much difference. Oh and btw I'm not like a huge guy or nothing but it fits in my pocket just fine. It really fits better than my gs2 believe it or not because it doesn't have room to move around. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Why do people insist to keep saying there's a processor difference and keep saying how slow the S4's processor is going to be compared to "whatever"??

Qualcomm even says it's the 600.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
The 800 looks like a more attractive processor when compared side by side with the 600.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Lol has it even been set in stone who's getting what? Sorry if it has been and I missed it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
It's set in stone if Qualcomm is advertising the S4 on their website. It's getting the 600.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Ok thanks. It just seemed like there was a lot of confusion at 1st.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VanillaG0rilla:
Anyone remember when people were disappointed with the galaxy s3 but people were still rushing out to buy it? Same thing here, people will never be happy. Something new is always around the corner and they could've always added something else.

I for one am excited about the s4. Def a huge step up from the s2.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
600 says no modem? But the 800 says 3g and LTE so wouldnt we get the 800??? I'm confused as heck right now.

And who cares about the CPU now. You realize all of you complaining make up maybe 5% of the people who will buy a gs4! Everyone else are going to be everyday people who won't be able to tell the difference from a quad core to a 8 core CPU.

They will use the phone to make calls, text, fb, Instagram, and play some games. Not trying to overclocl the crap out of the phone. Lol.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Wasn't complaining. I just didn't understand all the confusion when the processor manufacture states clearly what we will see from them.

I don't get why articles are even debating the issue. That was my point.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Febby:
According to samsungs sweepstake, the approx value is around 579$ in case any one wants to know at what kind of pricing to look forward to.

"First Prizes will be awarded, each consisting of a Samsung Galaxy S® 4 mobile device. Approximate Retail Value ("ARV"): $579."
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Considering I can get an off contract n2 for 549 right now, from Sprint, that seems very logical.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
Where is this sweepstakes you speak of?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
At least it's 1.9GHz with DDR3 RAM. Thanks for that link. Now, if only Sprint would hurry up with our LTE upgrade and set up a preorder page. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Agreed. :D:beer:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
You know what's odd is where it says view all Samsung smartphones you don't see the Note 2 listed. Must be because it has exynos lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I don't know how many there are paying attention to the S4 section but here's a good write up from someone that I expect to see doing kernel work on the s4.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=39172453
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] DEF3NDER:
One of the features I was most excited about was the laser keyboard dock. I can't find a single thing on it since the announcement. Has anybody seen anything about it? Must have ditched it. Which is confusing because Evo3d said he played with a gs4 a few weeks ago and the laser keyboard was awesome......?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Oh man, still so psyched for the S4. :D I skipped the S3 last year b/c, for me, I didn't deem the upgrade very significant and wasn't feeling the many curves and too-rounded off corners. With the S4, I feel it's finally the right time.

-Bigger and better display and true HD resolution.

-Better camera, hardware and software-wise.

-Keeping of SD card support

-bigger battery and still removable (maybe I'll put in a 5000mah extended battery~!)

-Shipping with Android 4.2.2

-Cool gesture features

-Lighter and smaller dimensions than the GS3~!

-Design that has become more squarish, which I personally prefer.

-Of course, the better hardware, 1.9Ghz quad, DDR3 RAM, Sprint's LTE, and extra sensors.

-Surely the explosive amounts of support from the XDA community.

I really don't see what the big deal is about the HTC One. I've read pretty much all the previews, reviews, and impressions so far but I feel that the only thing it can boast about at this point is the aluminum construction. Design-wise, I really prefer the look of the GS4. And I don't know why so many people are making a big deal of aluminum. It's the same stuff that Coke cans are made of, just of different density. :p Maybe it's because of the iPhone and their effective brainwashing of the general public on the whole aluminum deal. :)

S4 FTW~!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] im0rtalz:
that video was just a fan made video nothing to do with Samsung, iPhones has similar videos showing transparent screens laser keyboard etc, even fire fox show had a video of a concept phone
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Febby:
You had me going till I saw this... :thumbdown: :p :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Don't dismiss the radio just yet.. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
Did anyone notice that the iconic "S" is missing from the phone's back? I wonder why? I liked the "S" logo.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Lol, yea, I know that there are lots of people out there that feel burned or betrayed by Sprint because of their delayed or failed execution of their network rollout. But for me, they've been really good. In my neighborhood and surrounding areas, Sprint's WiMax is really strong and speedy and I get better call reception and quality compared to my previous carrier, which was T-Mobile. :) I'm hoping for Sprint to impress me this spring with their on-time and smooth rollout of their 4G LTE network.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] daniel4653:
Anybody else think the white looks kind of ehhhh.

Seems way to plain.

http://i1202.photobucket.com/albums/bb374/TexasEpic/ThePeoplesROM-KennyGlass123/daniel4653.png
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] primo523:
Black for me..and I'm very excited to get it from the s2.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
I agree with your reasons to upgrade from S2 to S4 but disagree on HTC One. I think the One is a better looking phone than S4 and will probably have better audio from its built in speakers. Aside from those 2 things the S4 definitely seems to be a better phone. We will just have to see what consumers think.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Yea, I know what you means. Looks are subjective and varies greatly among different groups of people. I generally value simple and clean styling on most things so I like the simple yet clean look of the S4 (don't like the home button that much, though). The One, IMHO, is too busy and industrial-looking for me, what with the long speaker grills and the dual-tone front color scheme. And I also don't like that the One's back is not flat b/c I often put my phone down on its back to read stuff and view videos.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
Well, i could pay 600 off contract, or wait til my upgrade in July 2014 for the s5.

Or i could be a cheapskate again and get the s4 dirt cheap after the s5 drops...just like i did last summer with the e4gt.

I think ill take the latter.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] optimummind:
Yea, you gotta do what works best for you. Me, I'm gonna buy the S4 off-contract and use my upgrade for the S5. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] someguyatx:
Funny that industrial look draws me to the phone. My upgrade is up October 1 so I will have a few months to decide. Also if Sprint does not have LTE rolling out here yet by Oct I will probably be back on Tmo or ATT.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
L720 benchmarked.

http://nena.se/nenamark/view?version=2&device_id=6559
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
Is this suppose to be the sprint s4?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moparfreak426:
Looking at model number I'd say..... Duh! Lol... S2 = D710, s3 = L710, L720 would make sense

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteZero:
CM is officially not going to support the S4...

Welp, nevermind on upgrading to that!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
Samsung might have a change of heart

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graydiggy:
You guys have some really bad reasons to not upgrade to the SIV. "it looks too much like the SIII", "CM won't support it.", "the stateside version won't have octa, I'm not upgrading.", etc. You guys for the most part are pathetic. I have never seen such a large group of people b!tch about the tiniest little issues that aren't even issues to begin with.

Who cares if it is similar in design to the SIII? There are legal reasons for that because of Apple. CM may not be officially supporting it, but you know for a fact that there will be unofficial builds on it that will either be just as good or even better. And yes, i know that it has already been explained as to why they chose 4cores for the US variant, but people are still complaining.

The way I see it, none of you can be happy. The Android community has reached a huge milestone in the last year. It is now the most popular Mobile OS in the world with Samsung leading the manufacturers. Why can't you guys just say "I'm not upgrading" instead of trying to find a reason that ultimately is a really crappy reason with nothing to back it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteZero:
*****ing about peoples *****ing? Thats so meta.

As the consumer, we can rationalize any way we please not to buy a particular product. Just because we're not foaming at the mouth to get the newest thing makes us pathetic?

Last I checked this was a discussion forum. Ya know, where you talk about things? If everyone just said "I'm upgrading" or "I'm not upgrading" this would be a very shallow discussion indeed.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
*****ing about people *****ing about *****ing :eek:

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteZero:
We need to go deeper!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
Lol

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] primo523:
http://m.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Silver lining for Qualcomm variants?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] WhiteZero:
Yeah, thats the current theory.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Don't know if you all have been stalking Chainfire's progress and I'm wondering if there's any update to this..

https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/c3H92Ab4KyG
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
http://m.androidcentral.com/cm-developers-passing-samsung-galaxy-s4-should-you

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...ther-confirms-nor-denies-plans-for-cm-on-gs4/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Now that's what I like to see. (Not the discord, the "guts" of the conversation.)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
xdaforums.com/stupid-troll-keeps-posting-links-to-already-known-info55339

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
You do realize this is the E4GT forum and therefore the users are coming here for information. They aren't looking in the Galaxy S4 forums, but here at their home forum. Your attitude and rudeness are not appreciated here. You are trolling as well as being disrespectful by resorting to petty name calling and such. Continued behavior will result in contact of a moderator.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] BluesRulez:
I think its best that the conversation for gs4 be moved to gs4 forums.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
I noticed u said as well implying that you were trolling

U posted information that was already stated the exact same link so I quoted because u probably didn't see

U then posted another link stating the same thing this time a different link but u definitely knew by then it was already stated which leaves the only reason u could've posted bring trolling hence my post

Any an attitude and rudeness u saw was most likely a misinterpretation but feel free to report if u see fit

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
Read the second link. It's different information. First one was a link that I didn't see was already posted. Second one was a true information that proves that CM hasn't said they aren't building for the GS4, but rather was a misinterpretation on the article author's parts and the Android Police reported on the true clarification of Team Hacksung's statement.

I advise you to not resort to name calling regardless of the situation. Regardless I haven't reported because I said continued behavior would result in reporting. You explained yourself therefore I'm content.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
The context in which it was posted was after the link stating that there isn't official cm support for the galaxy s4 the second link says that hacksung (official cm team) neither confirm nor deny supporting the galaxy s4

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
Please read my edit above. The first link was the article authors misinterpretating Team Hacksung's statement and the second one was posted to dispel that incorrect interpretation.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
Well now your cooking

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
The timing sure seems right.

Let's not forget that this thread was created prior to the forum going public but now seems appropriate.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
I concur

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
It does make sense

But...

There are already discussion threads over there

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
No offense to the OP, but maybe it's time to close with a redirecting link.

Also, no offense to anyone here, but the tone and discussion is following suit with what's in that section as well.

I, for one, will be happy to have the phone in my hands and see where we end up development wise. I think we're all anxious. :D Well, I am.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
Moderators will do what they see fit we just have to wait and see:)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] jayharper08:
I'm leaning towards both ways tbh. It is nice to have a discussion thread about it, which is fine. It is also nice to be able to see threads about the phone you currently have and not have to keep overlooking something you're not interested in.

Tell you what, I'll keep this open for a little while longer to let everyone keep discussing it. (We even have some stickies in other sections to so you can discuss it).

The problem I have with closing it is this: You will see 10 threads a day pop up about it, members getting flamed about creating said thread, etc. No matter how many times we post, what we post, its going to happen.

So what I need for you guys to do, is stop with the flaming and the condescending posts about it.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] primo523:
Sorry for all the drama guys. Yes it is correct. I only posted " tracking the s4" in the epic touch thread because a lot of us are Getting ready for an upgrade. " me " and I was looking for interest and opinion's on the next galaxy phone and at the time of the original post, there wasn't a galaxy s4 thread.

Cheers. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
Nothing to apologize for primo. Nothing at all. :beer: :)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
I got a quick question. I keep reading that Devs prefer to have the snapdragon chip instead of exynos because it is closed source(exynos). So is deving easier or better on a snapdragon chip set? Also do we need to wait for Qualcomm to release source? Or it is open source, where as exynos is closed soruce? Sorry if it sounds confusing.. Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
No one says deving

Qualcomm is better and no we don't :)

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
What exactly do you mean by closed source? I'm rooted and running a custom kernel and there are countless roms available for this device. I don't understand what you're saying.

Edit: Sorry quote was meant for Ind3lible.

---------- Post added at 08:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

Yeah so what do you mean closed? Note 2 is not closed at all running exynos.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TingTingin:
I was thinking dafuq

But I'll answer anyway the sources for Exynos processors aren't openly available Samsung doesn't release them they aid in development without it you are limited in what u can do if u look now s3 still doesn't have stable cm while many other lower speced devices do

It's not too say there isn't development just not that much AOSP

This is still the version in getting though it's not all about AOSP and I really can't wait to see what devs come up with for this device

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
I'm going to para-phrase a post (It was either Dastin or Evil that I read this from which I think says it best, can't remember who) and that is:

Qualcomm (snapdragon) isn't as stingy with PPI concerning drivers as Arm (Exynos) is. AOSP projects can get us 80-90% there with open source Android but the PPI is then needed to be either reverse engineered or shared from the manufacture so that software applications/functionally of hardware/options can be fully utilized.

Not that dev'ing is "easier", just that there are less gaps to bridge increasing or decreasing development time and hoops to go through.

Hope that makes sense and I think that's what you were asking.

:edit: Ting ninja'd me. :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Ok thanks. I think I get it lol but since I like running just stock rooted touchwiz I guess it don't matter. To me anyway. :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
Yes this is what I mean. So open source is better for AOSP then I assume.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Looks that way. I haven't tried that type of rom yet and really probably won't but I know they don't have SPen support, at least last time I checked, and certain other features that are not available either.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ind3lible:
Yeah. I am not really a fan of aosp anyways. I prefer touch wiz:eek::eek::eek:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] dastin1015:
Qualcomm chipsets are easier to develop for. Qualcomm constantly releases updates in real time for the kernels on CAF (Code Aurora Forum). They actually open source a lot of stuff including most of the Android source that they modify. So essentially any Qualcomm chipset can be kept up to date if you can find where the kernel source for your device was released in terms of the commits pushed to CAF and fixing any mismerges from the OEM vs CAF. Exynos on the other hand is not open like that, therefore harder to get up to date and support new features. That's why if you've noticed for CM that most Qualcomm devices have better more stable development.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MoHoGalore:
The reason I'm not heartbroken nor upset about the variant I will be getting.

Waiting for this release is like waiting for e4gt jb source drop. :D:beer:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] primo523:
Sounds like s go..

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/03/25/founder-cyanogenmod-steve-kondik-leaves-samsung/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheAtheistOtaku:
anybody hear anything about U.S pricing. Depending on the price, I may get the s4 or the note 2 for t-mobile. I would guess it would be about the same as when the s3 first came out
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moparfreak426:
I've seen anywhere between 639 to 699

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Well it looks as though they cut to the front of the line:

http://phandroid.com/2013/03/26/t-mobile-galaxy-s4-release-date/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] TheAtheistOtaku:
i dont plan to do that finance crap. i have 800 sitting in the bank for it as long as it isnt more then that, im a happy camper lol

and i dont mind them cutting in line, sprint can kiss my a** come may first lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
http://phandroid.com/2013/03/29/samsung-exynos-5-octa-lte-support/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mattix724:
I f***ing knew it supported LTE! I'm going to have to agree with one of the comments over there, they wouldn't have any trouble with supply if they weren't manufacturing chips for Apple.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] t4d73:
Lol! Well maybe they might just make a few for the US. GS4S? Lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] graydiggy:
Those rat bastards. Lol
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] moparfreak426:
I know! It p*sses me the f*ck off

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Adreaver:
We can always just buy the international version...

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