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[Ouya General] nessonic:
Why would I want to stream games? I'd need the hardware in my PC to do so and at that point...why am I not gaming on my gaming desktop? The logic doesn't follow with that at all.
[Ouya General] bigd5783:
youre trying to compair a 100$ tv connected box with a 500$ handheld system. Its like compairing the wii from yesteryear to the psvita. Two completely different things. The ouya will be powerfull enough to do basic things but supposedly there will be a better one next year with the new Tegra chipset.
[Ouya General] Malnoth:
Exactly! For me my android phone and Bluetooth controller are good enough for "mobile gaming". The ouya will make a good xbmc streaming device. But that's about all I'll use it for.
[Ouya General] bee55:
The Tegra 3 in the OUYA is going to be more powerful than the ones found in mobile devices because that there is no power constraint.
[Ouya General] Shiero:
are two different devices too ...
[Ouya General] dibblebill:
Irrelevant. Project Shield has a Tegra 4. If it were, say, Ouya to Transformer TF300 or another comparable Tegra 3 device, would be relevant.
[Ouya General] bee55:
Fully relevant with people talking about the Tegra 4 delivering 2.5 times the performance of Tegra 3. It won't.
[Ouya General] TouchscreenLover1:
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield

New i think if i would have to decide nvidia project shield and Ouya i would take the project shield

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[Ouya General] dibblebill:
I geuss we'll have to wait for end-user benchmarks and test to see for sure :S

I got an Ouya because I'd rather drop $500 on a Nexus device and have a separate media/HD Game device for the TV than spend $500 on one that does both.
[Ouya General] mancur:
Just for reference, the Ouya uses the highest-end Tegra 3 (T33), which by comparison, is clocked significantly faster than the version inside the Nexus 7.

Ouya clock speed relative to Nexus 7 (Tegra 3):

CPU: +33%

GPU: +25%

RAM: +20%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tegra

It's no where near a Tegra 4, but with XBMC it should handle virtually any 1080P 24fps video you throw at it, which is why I really want it. The games are a bonus.
[Ouya General] dibblebill:
Yeah, I knew it was significantly faster than teh Tegra 3 tablets, but the claim was that it would be superior to the Tegra 4 speeds... I believe it'll be fantastic for Tegra 3.
[Ouya General] Wenzo2:
uoya is the best
[Ouya General] fiktion:
Or SNES to GameBoy.

Still, though, I'd like to have both. Simply for the reason that one is on-the-go gaming, and one is console gaming.
[Ouya General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
in some weeks there will be a streaming service available with which you don't need any nvidia graphics card in the pc...just a tegra 3/4 device and you can play pc games also on android devices :)
[Ouya General] cindylove:
You can also stream games from your pc to ouya

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15HZjm-KWCg
[Ouya General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield

Yes because of splashtop or demo version of nvidias streaming service or so

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[Ouya General] cindylove:
Right. I just posted it because of the first post.

So ouya (with the right software) can do stream games from the pc.

In other words. it will do the same linke the nvidia shield device.
[Ouya General] Daniel_Deega:
Ouya is the best !
[Ouya General] awdnut:
Sells old 3d chipsets to Ouya..

Makes it's own competing product on next gen chipsets.

I'd personally go with Ouya, but feel bad because some of my money is going towards funding NVidia's ass-hattery..

*Such an appropriate term for them.
[Ouya General] dibblebill:
Tegra 4 was unavailable at the time they began developing the Ouya's hardware. I see no asshattery. Field's still open to develop a superior Tegra 4 platform that can outplay the Shield, but for TV's.
[Ouya General] lordhardware:
Agreed, my PS VITA can stream my PS3 games, but I play them on my PS3... so... yeah?
[Ouya General] cindylove:
Because your pc screen is mostly smaller than the tv. Also you can not chill on your couche (i guess) while playing on the pc.

Their are a lot of good arguments for streaming a game to the television.
[Ouya General] dibblebill:
Except this is an increasingly moot point with TV's having VGA inputs, and many PC's (ESPECIALLY gaming PC's) having HDMI out, with long periferal cables or front USB pots as well.

EDIT: I meant 'not sitting on couch'. Need to learn reading comprehension. We're in agreement.
[Ouya General] semmiii:
uoya ftw
[Ouya General] amd5511:
Ouya

Ouya definitely Ouya, who knows Ouya 2.0 will get a 8 core system on this price point. ;)
[Ouya General] ghostofdavid:
I backed the Ouya. I have no interest in the Shield.
[Ouya General] xonone:
Ouya for me.

I already got a note 2, nexus 7 and a M14x r2 for mobile gaming :D

I may change to Shield if it comes with a GSM / CMDA LTE enable device with 4g but i doubt it. My nexus 7 can steam any pc game off of my M14x via splashtop 2 THD without needing any special hardware.
[Ouya General] mrsilkunderwear:
I am really interested in the shield if it is not expensive.
[Ouya General] Firehand81:
At the moment, I would definetly bet on Ouya, simply for cost. As added bonus, there's supposed to be new Ouya every year, so while first one might be bit behind times, in few years they should be up for task to compete seriously against rest of the consoles/handheld devices.
[Ouya General] eksasol:
Two different devices made for completely different purposes and $300 apart.

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[Ouya General] gabe32:
I'm behind the Ouya, my high end phone is for mobile gaming. The Ouya will be a nice hackable Android ran console to chill with at home. And due to the Devs doing their best to make it hackable, it will be a slightly more free platform. Heck, they put the thing together with normal screws for petes sake. Not to mention it's very cheap.
[Ouya General] Raverbunny:
Exactly that, Ouya and Shield are miles apart both in price range and target audience.

Plus the streaming from your pc thing sounds like a gimmick to me. 1. You have to get a new video card if your pc doesn't already have one that supports the streaming and 2. If I have to be near my pc to play, why on earth would I use a crappy controller with a built in tiny screen instead of playing on the actual pc with a much bigger screen and a gaming mouse and keyboard?
[Ouya General] Shacamus:
Clearly agree !

Different audience as first creation date was different and Ouya wont need a battery so it can be used :)

Would love a Ouya with Tegra4 (but will be next year if i understood well) !
[Ouya General] RobKort:
I really don't see a competition here. Looking at the two devices they couldn't be further away from each other and the way they are marketed.

.........TPT'd From my SGS3
[Ouya General] adity:
With the specs it got, I think ouya will work great.

It won't have to worry about battery,

Widgets or the horrible facebook app sitting into its memory all the time.

On the other hand shield is just a phone with a controller.

The stream from pc feature is more of a gimmick from what I can see.

Nvidia gpu's support 3d but you need a special monitor and some special 3d kit for it to run.

There's gotta be a catch with this one too
[Ouya General] CapnDap:
Shield for now...

The thing is that Project Shield is mobile, and the Ouya isn't. That alone is what would lead me to get the Shield. I can save my phone battery for browsing and other stuff, and have a dedicated mobile gaming platform. The only thing is at the rate tech is moving Tegra 5 will be here in 2 years, and my Shield will be outdated...
[Ouya General] MRTYN:
lol das it mane
[Ouya General] lartomar2002:
Noob question. Is it possible to stream or connect the Shield to a large screen TV?
[Ouya General] leomd333:
The problem with comparing these...is that the sheild will cost allot more than ouya :p
[Ouya General] Dyamont:
Nvidia Shield

I prefer the Nvidia Shield console :D nvidia graphics need :)
[Ouya General] itsmontoya:
This was my thought exactly. Although the Tegra3 is quite powerful, the t4 is leaps and bounds more robust.
[Ouya General] rushless:
If a T3 to T4 comparison it is obvious the T4 will smoke the T3, but comparing the devices themselves is apples to anvils.
[Ouya General] lartomar2002:
So OUYA is going to release a new Ouya annually. In that case they will always be one release behind what is new if not more. When they release a new Tegra 4 model it will be about time for the release of Tegra 5 or what ever they will call it. Somehow they need to find a way to time their hardware updates to the Tegra releases. Which seems to be on a yearly cycle. Another thought is that Nvidia Tegra may slow down their tegra updates because people may be willing to pay $100.00 for a new OUYA every year but I do not think many will be willing to part with $400.00 dollars for a new Nvidia Shield every year. And, of coure do not be surprised to see Quualcom get in on the console bandwagon. Just saying! :)
[Ouya General] mancur:
First, nVidia will

not

slow down their yearly Tegra updates, as they're in dire competition with Qualcomm, Samsung, and every other chip maker out there for design wins in phones and tablets. So, that's not a concern.

And, yes, if Ouya times their next year release correctly (mid-summer), they could actually jump directly to Tegra 5, instead of Tegra 4. I would hope that's obvious to Julie and others at Ouya.
[Ouya General] lartomar2002:
Are you thinking they (OUYA) may fore go a tegra 4 model and wait on the tegra 5 release?
[Ouya General] mancur:
If I were Ouya, I'd hold off the release of the Ouya 2 until summer 2014, and go with a Tegra 5.

That would align it with the best of the current gen, rather than being 3/4 of a year behind.

But, I have no idea what they'll do.
[Ouya General] gabe32:
I hope they do the same as well. They should work on getting the next one compatible with the Tegra 5 chip and just pop it in and release it for production, once they are allowed access the the supply chain.
[Ouya General] zener773:
Obviously, Ouya doesn't need to break any sales records. It just needs to sell relatively well. If it does that, it guarantees their second generation console. On the other hand, given the Shield's higher cost, anything less than a home run could be consider a flop. As buzz for the PS4 and Xbox720 builds up, persuading consumers to spend more than $200 for a mobile console will become a very steep mountain to climb. In addition, except for game streaming, Nvidia's Shield does not offer anything different that a tablet or smartphone cannot deliver. Nvidia's Shield is no different than a PS portable unit and last time I checked, Sony is not exactly breaking sales records with their PS Vita. The mobile console is dying. My prediction? Look forward for Ouya to incorporate Steam game streaming functionality along with a Tegra 5 into their 2nd gen console when all is said and done.
[Ouya General] Jklaz:
Does the Nvidia Shield require you to have a powerful computer? And can it be displayed on a larger display like a tv? Otherwise I'd go OUYA since the Nvidia seems just like a powerful phone-ish gaming platform
[Ouya General] bb12489:
Generally speaking about the PC games being streamed.....

The Tegra 3 in the OUYA has the same capability that the Tegra 4 has. It can decode H.264 content. From what I've read, this is how an Nvidia powered gaming PC transmits it's streaming data to Shield via encoded H.264. Theoretically any GPU whether it's AMD or Nvidia, mobile or otherwise should be able to stream games to an OUYA/Tegra 3/4, etc, etc. Of course this is all locked down at the driver level and branded as an Nvidia proprietary tech.
[Ouya General] lartomar2002:
I have aTegra 3 processor (T30L)and the mali 400 GPU. We have managed to oc to 1.9 and have the GPU up to 650 easily. All done with a custom rom and custom kernel. So I am sure we will be able to do this with the OUYA because it will have the Tegra 3 (T34) processor With a hugh fan on it.
[Ouya General] KyleSforza:
I agree with you, SHIELD is just epic, in both wrestling and gaming :p lmao
[Ouya General] UnOfficiallyDNG:
OUYA isn't leading edge hardware and that is reflected in the price, the Tagra 4 chip is available now and I should think OUYA has been working on on the Tegra 4 version for a while

Stark (Tagra 5?) is going to be 64bit and a different instruction set so a little (a lot?) more involved in that upgrade

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OUYA must have exceeded all expectations for sales a few days after it went live on kickstarter, they needed $950K and got $8.5 million

Like I said in the last post, I can't see them skipping Tegra 4, it's almost certainly already in development (they already had a prototype A9 OUYA before they went to kickstarter) and Tegra 5 will be expensive next year, I should think in short supply

At what stage is android with 64bit ARMv8 instruction set?
[Ouya General] zener773:
Typo... Meant to say Tegra 4. No need for Ouya to change their formula and complicate things.
[Ouya General] UnOfficiallyDNG:
it is confusing, nvidia aren't helping with the 4i either :eek:
[Ouya General] zener773:
Yep.. U r right. Sometimes I think Nvidia are over extending themselves. They should only stick to what they know best and that's making ass kicking chips for everyone to use.
[Ouya General] LoaderAi:
Imagine...

What if they made the next OUYA into an even smaller form factor with Tegra 5 that you could potentially fit into your pocket and use it like the Shield with a screen on it or even as a way to stream games to your phone or TV... wouldn't that be something ;)

Either way, I'm going to get the OUYA following the reviews of initial buyers, all I need is satisfactory comments and I'm in. Shield, through my perspective, seems like another PSP/Vita/DS/ whatever. They have no appeal for their price.
[Ouya General] papertown11:
.....

most serious gamers should have an hdmi port so you can just transfer the games to the tv and wireless streaming for games is overated
[Ouya General] sssggg:
AW: Ouya vs Nvidia Shield

There's something I don't understand. Why would anyone want to buy an expensive device like the shield just to play PC games on a TV? Why not put the PC next to the TV and use a regular HDMI cable instead?

Also, the ouya's power consumption will be much lower than what a PC draws. One of the reasons why I don't play PC games is that wasting 1000 Watts/hour isn't worth it to me. My Xbox' power consumption is bad enough. In fact, it's so bad that I wouldn't ever use it as a media player.
[Ouya General] Harfainx:
The Shield isn't meant to compete with anything except other portable systems, such as 3DS and Vita. OUYA and Shield are in completely different worlds. The only real common feature is that they run on Android.

One major reason for the Shield is to break "hardcore" gamers away from ATI video cards. To stream from your computer, you need a current gen NVIDIA video card (minimum 650 for desktop, and 660 for laptop). Nobody is going to buy a $400 handheld (my estimate on cost, purely speculation) and not take advantage of the ability to stream games.

Of course they're also trying to make PC gaming truly mobile. Right now the most mobile you can get is a slate PC, but then you lose the ability to play high end games. I am not about to carry my ASUS G75VW to the bathroom or the kitchen while playing an online game. With the Shield, you are truly mobile (if only in your own house). Then you can continue gaming on Android games when you're away from your home network.

Casual Android gamers that want mobility will buy a tablet for the same price (or cheaper), or pick up an Android running system with hard buttons (like the Archos GamePad or the JDX S7300). Nobody is going to drop money on the Shield to play Angry Birds, or whatever the current game fad is.

With the cost of the OUYA it appeals to all types of Android gamers that just want to play with a controller, on a full size display. $100 is $100 though, so it's not like everyone can just buy the OUYA on a whim, but it is much easier to justify dropping $100, especially when you factor in other features besides gaming (streaming media, playing movies/TV from removable media, showing off all your terribly filtered food pictures to your family and friends on a big screen, and whatever else you decide to do with it).

We won't be seeing the latest and greatest SoC right after it drops, even on future refreshes of the OUYA. It's already been said that they won't build a successor until they can bring it to the market at a sub-$100 price. If they wait for the Tegra 5, we won't be getting a hardware refresh until the Tegra 5 has been on the market for at least 8-10 months (or longer).
[Ouya General] Casshern:
Neither. Ever.
[Ouya General] raptir:
Why are people pricing the Shield at $400-$500? You really think it's going to be 2-4 times the price of competing handhelds and competing tablets?
[Ouya General] rushless:
People are going by previous analyst and media assumptions. Since it is supposed to have Play market support, the price will be at a margin to drive a profit. There is of course the goal of getting people to buy Nvidia card computers for the PC games functionality, but they are in trouble if they think that will be the main money maker.

This will be priced for profit, unlike the Gamestick and Ouya that are priced to be mainly supported by their app markets. Both a tall order, considering both devices only have a little over six gigs for app installs. Not enough space for game devices. Archos made the same mistake with their Gamepad, but not app market driven for revenue.

Keep in mind the Tegra 4 chipset will be expensive at start up (launch cost curves are high) and the device apparently has a high quality display. No way less than $300. Probably $350.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kovalaci:
What about locked bootloader?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

It's based on CM10, so you need unlocked Bootloader.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Akhil:
Re: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

No offence, but the features you have added can be easily added from Android apps and theme section, there's a flurry of xperia apps.. For e.g

Xperia z launcher and widgets by thilinaC.. This also works on 4.2 ..

For notes app, track id app, flash krab's extra apps from theme section..

For album, use pimp my ROM..

Xperia keyboard leaks work in any android version..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Yes, but thats a lot of work, and here it's all together ;)

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Akhil:
Re: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Not a lot, atleast not for me, just google search and you will get everything and i know what lot of work means..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tomgus1:
Re: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

I don't really know what's up with you guys of late after CM10.1 was released. Let someone release their work and be done with it.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] -Johannes-:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Ap... is always a bit negative :mad::D

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] fabidesca:
Screenshots?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] HellRoot:
Sv: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Is it possible to get the message app and phonebook from stock also? :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

I look what i can do :)

Added to startpost :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] fabidesca:
the link for the v1.2 does not work, it says the download is not working
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Oh the traffic is too much on this link :/

I'll reupload it but my internet is not the best :(

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] fabidesca:
I expected, but all in this rom looks great
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

It's reuploading on dev-host.

It'll be online in about 2 hours :/

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] fabidesca:
thank you, I test the v1 :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Akhil:
Re: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Sorry for that, but i never comment to please anyone, i always say the truth, may be that's why..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

Okay :)

Please post your Feedback here ;)

It's okay :)

But please make our Rom not worse than it is ;)

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] -Johannes-:
AW: [ROM] UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.2

That's nothing against you but in every thread here on xda also on ask and general section you always have to say something negative.

I believe you could do better but then show us and don't always be negative to new things.

If you don't like others stuff you don't have to use.

And now back to topic ;)

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
Added downloadlink for v1.2 on dev-host in the startpost :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] HellRoot:
Sv: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

First of all.. The camera function from standby is only in stock roms...

No Google play is because you have not installed gapps.. Read install instructions and install them through cwm!

You can't expect all stock features as it is CM based... Stick with stock roms if you want that.. Cheers :)

Edit : and the 720p and 8mp... There are fixes for that but as stated a thousand times before it is still alpha drivers so wait until they get the official jb drivers!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

Tomorrow comes v1.5 based on CM10 Build 207

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Jeremy0:
Thanks but the first topic says "Gapps including". That's why I'm surprised. And there's no instructions... Thanks in advance for your help.

Perhaps it's not too complicated to include :) ?

The problem is Sony never did the JB update. That's why this release is interesting !

Thanks for the info, I hope stable drivers will be released soon ;).

Cool. I hope all the reports were useful for improvements...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] kovalaci:
bootloader

Sorry for the noob question: doed this ROM work only with unlocked bootloader?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] -Johannes-:
AW: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

Only with unlocked bootloader.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

I've made a german review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?nomobile=1&v=QDcJFnpJ72M

If you want a english review too, tell me :)

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] HellRoot:
i dont read install instructions anymore... most of them has the same procedure :) but i did not see that... but if they are not there.. then just find the gapps and flash em :)

the camera button from standby... i read somewhere that it is difficult.... but i dont really know... if you try asking in the themes and apps maybe someone can help you out... i do never use it myself.. as it is buggy :)

The JB update will be here soon... hopefully.. and the drivers should be released soon.... then we will get everything working on CM... so looking forward to that :D

But with CM... the only thing is to wait.... or fix it yourself :P i prefer waiting... :P
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jfxperias:
Re: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

1.5 it is realised??? ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Nostix:
AW: [ROM][12.02]UXP - Unlimited Xperia Project v1.4 [15.02]v0.1 Android 4.2.1 OPEN be

Uploading right now.

Had no time so i only updated the base to Build 207 :/

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