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[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] asdf20:
Well said:thumbup:

I'm also sick of listening about "free ram is wasted ram".
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delsus:
I dont see any problems here, this isn't just turned on either.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xSpeced:
Mine always hovers around 650/832... Even if i have crap ton of apps running,
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhibnl:
Here's mine ram usage after usually working on approximate 8 appz. No problems here
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] samkent6:
Really dont see what peoples problem is
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got-petrol:
The galaxy s3 international is a mid range phone
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ashley1987:
Nonsense
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] abhibnl:
Joke of the day
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Choristav:
How bad did I do?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drakester09:
I will not continue debating with someone who does not have the underlying understanding of what I'm talking about.

I have never said anything regarding RAM amount, or that 1GB is unnecessary. You are being extremely ignorant (and that is using a kind word to describe it).

The fact is that some misinformed people (again being very kind) , such as yourself, believe that random access memory and how much of it is 'free' equates to fixed storage, which should be free before the os is able to use it.

The Android LMK can and will dispose of the cached processes if the current available amount does not satisfy the current necessity. Having a process in cache memory is good because the OS is able to access it more quickly when it's needed.

Unfortunately it seems that Samsung had tampered with the LMK mechanisms and tasks get killed at an arbitrary amount. Jkay Framework has some fixes to these issues.

I'm afraid you will understand none of this. Your inability to express any opinions without attempting to mock the author screams immaturity.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Life Engineer:
Okey guys thanks everyone for your replies!

As some have asked what are our problem, I will explain a bit:

After minutes of turning on the phone and using it a bit, the RAM gets pretty full! Even if no apps are running, even if I delete all recent apps (pressing home button then the recycle bin icon) I will still have only about 100 or lower of free RAM!!

And that is a big issue since I can not multitask! Each app I quit is directly closed to free more RAM! That is so frustrating! I mean I didn't pay 500 $+ price for the most sold phone to get this performance! On my wife's S2, even with all jellybean bloatware it always had around 200 to 300MB of free RAM and can open many apps at the same time!

For people not having these issues, can you please specify what you are using?! ROM!? Kernel!?

Thanks

Edit: It seriously look that something is wrong here! I am pretty sure that there's some sort of memory leak coz with the same apps I am installing now I can get upto 200 to 250 MB of free RAM on cyanogenmod! And I have a debloated touchwiz ROM!!!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adilrenzu:
This is as i hv been saying a **** phone..

phone with such specs and yet u see people not happy with it which means thts its not only me but this phone is really a peice of trash.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
I'm sure some poor starving poverty stricken kid somewhere will be happy to relieve you of your phone :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] delsus:
Another slappy classic to someone who is clueless.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adilrenzu:
r u sure?moreover this phone deserves to be there,:victory:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] got-petrol:
All the mid range phones have one gig of ram...whats going to happen when samsung say we cant update because of memory but the 2gig version will be fine all we will get is a value pack I cant wait
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
The bottom line is Samsung messed up big time by only giving S3 1gb RAM. They admitted this by releasing the I9305 with 2gb RAM. I also came from an S2 to an S3 and was gutted, apart from the screen it felt like I had downgraded.

I love all these S3 owners quoting "free RAM is wasted RAM" keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better about spending your hard earned cash on a rubbish phone.

FACT: S3 multitasking is USELESS!

I sold mine for the I9305 and this thing is a beast!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
I will indeed keep telling myself that free ram is wasted ram because it's true, whether you choose to see that or not. Samsung messed up with releasing their bloated UI in the first place, but instead of admitting their faults, they send out a gazillion new devices which all look somewhat like every device they send out.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madarox:
Again,it's NOT the amount of RAM.It's the bad memory management.Like I said before,multitasking in AOSP ROMs is flawless.All the flagships that were released at the time of the GS3 had 1 gig of RAM like the HOX,O4X,RAZR HD,Xperia T etc.The 2GB version of the GS3 just helps hide samsung engineers' failure in the memory management department of this device.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
True, though some people are blinded by their own ignorance.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolis626:
Not entirely true.And I post just to clarify something.Samsung didn't release the I-9305 with 2gigs of RAM because they realised they screwed up and so on.2gb RAM chips weren't ready for mass production by the time the S3 was released (or at least couldn't be produced at large enough quantities to meet demand).Don't ask me for the source,I read it from a couple different places back in the time and don't remember any of these right now.However I'm quite sure this was the case.

Now,right on topic.Anyone who has actually used Linux in their lives would know that free RAM is indeed wasted RAM.The fact that a full blown Ubuntu installation used to run fine on an old PC I had with only 512mb or 1gb of RAM (Don't remember,it's been long since I fried that one) with all Compiz graphics enabled and a gazillion apps running is a perfect example of that.RAM levels were constantly above 80% used (Hovering around 90% most of the time).I never had slowdowns because of a lack of RAM,even if slowdowns where lack of CPU/GPU power were quite frequent.And you should see that "beast" running with some 10 apps opened at the same time.

Sammy did mess up memory management however.Topic's been covered,not much to say about it.However,you guys can surely try some workarounds.If you have a fast enough SD card,you can try swap.It's not a solution I like because of the potential lagginess,but some don't mind as long as multitasking is good.You can also try lowering your minfrees.I think that stock values are quite high,so you can try tweaking those.I use the values from some bestmultitaskingfix version.Don't lower them too much though,or lags are guarranteed to manifest.And finally,don't expect miracles.It's a year-old phone and again,as Madarox said,it's not the only phone of its time with 1gig of RAM and certainly not the only one with RAM issues (Knock knock HoX).I believe HD screens shouldn't be coupled with less than 1.5gigs of RAM in the first place,but whatever.

I hope some people find this useful and stop posting useless crap like "STFU 1gig suckz" :)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gchindi:
all points agreed...its not as good as SGS2 when it comes to Ram management..

however, I think its something or most of it to do with TouchWhiz Nature UI, they have made it very heavy on the phone with 1GB Ram not to forget user Ram available 832MB only...

Android 4.0.4 or 4.1.1 or 4.1.2 coupled with heavy Touchwhiz framework is making it worst...

best examples: to quote a few, this is on latest UK stock, unrooted..:cowboy:

*Phone and contacts app lag when opening for the first time and apps not being in Ram for a long time compared to SGS2

*lagginess when you go to widgets screen

*home screen re-draws even you are not running any heavy apps as such

*dropdown notification lagginess when you are running stock music player and when you have couple of more notifications

Finally i think, Sammy should update the touchwhiz by making it lighter on the phone to resolve most of the Ram problems...! not to forget the android version optimisation by sammy after google releasing subsiquent version upgrades..!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
If only Samsung could make TW more modular, so that we who do not desire the looks could remove those modules to get the, imo, sexy and beautiful vanilla android looks without sacrificing stability.

To resolve most of the bugs you see tho, you can always switch your launcher to say Nova, Apex, Holo, etc. and change the dialer/contacts app for thirdparty ones such as EX Dialer or Swipe Dialer.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mwatson:
I totally agree! I came from S2 SIM free and entered into a 2 year contract to downgrade to the S3. I too was gutted when i realised its had the RAM problem. I spoke to the 2nd tier support at Samsung and they themselves said that the phone is underpowered for what they wanted it to achieve. Thier advice to me was to exit out of apps by pressing back and not home.

Re- the free RAM being wasted or not, that is not the question here. More so that why did Samsung build ROMs that were not designed to work correctly with the hardware. I9300 owners are the beta testers here. I9305 was the finished product as a result.

I too was going to get I9305, but then I spotted Xperia Z. Bye bye Sammy!:silly:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gchindi:
To top it all, none of the early reviewers on the internet mention these important issues which annoys all the users on a day to day use...not blaming the reviewers here, but this results in all of us getting to know the issues only after using the phone for a while...we are struck with no choice to change other than shelling out more money to buy something different.

overall experience is fine but these small glitches makes me feel that Im using a below average phone even after paying £450.00...

we can get 3rd party launchers/dialers etc etc to resolve the issues, but that will not give stock experience and can never replace stock framework. also, makes me feel that my £450.00 was just to get hardware from sammy and Im getting all important apps from 3rd party.

3rd party apps should be a neciety not necessity...I guess!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
The reason that not so many have complained about this is because the Average Joe doesn't play heavy 3D games etc. They use their phones to send texts, make calls every now and then, light browsing and playing some minor 2D games.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eggman89:
Notice something wrong?

This is what happens when Samsung messes up with Android memory management and Android starts killing off wrong process.

Yes, I've tried it with Beautiful widget and HD widgets.

Even stock clock is killed.

And before you say it's because of custom rom, it's not. I had the same issue on Stock.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gchindi:
I wonder how is S2 doing after getting 4.1.2 last week.. Can someone who has an S2 and probably S3 compare and report please?

Im particularly interested in knowing how phone and contacts app do in s2 in 4.1.2....opening delay for d first time and subsequent opening time, opening time after its closed from open apps list by long pressing home button... That would really give us a sense of comparison between old touchwhiz and new nature ui touchwhiz.. Anyone pls.. Thanks in advance..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mwatson:
My brother has my s2 and its fine with JB..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yahyoh:
working like charm with more than 300MB free RAM :rolleyes:

edit: opening phone and contacts app take 1-2 sec even on Note2 when they are closed , BTW GS2 got the new TW UX
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Obagleyfreer:
Just re-read my post and it sounded a bit rude, that wasn't my intention so if I offended anyone my apologies.

What I meant was that this topic is about the RAM on an S3 running ANDROID. I'm well aware that free RAM is wasted RAM on a Linux system. This just isn't the case for an S3 running Android, if RAM is any lower than about 150mb free the S3 lags like hell and freezes, it's pretty much unusable until a reboot.

I do however totally agree that it is the memory management causing this and not so much the lack of RAM. However the 2 go hand in hand, more RAM means the poor memory management doesn't show as much.

I've been a Samsung customer since the S1 and I think they've gone downhill greatly. I'm also buying the Experia Z on release.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evertjr:
I just enabled Developer Settings (not changed any option) and I'm not sure why now I have better multitasking and rarely launcher redraws. I tried and I can maintain up to 7 apps running on memory. Before I couldn't even minimize Draw Something to open a browser and search some images because it just get killed. Someone can try it to confirm if it really help?

Btw, I'm on stock 4.1.2 rom, no root.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
What did you enable in Developer Settings?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KruseLudsMobile:
Stock Verizon ROM: I have the 2 GB version upgraded OTA to JB 4.1.1. I have never had any issues, my phone runs as smooth as butter. I checked and the Developer Options are turned on, although under developer options nothing in there is enabled.

I understand that my 2GB of RAM may make this a bad comparison for the above problem, but I hope this helps...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KMino:
Remove the bloatware, all those Samsung services that duplicate Google services!

Delete system/bin/kiesexe!

Freeze all that you don't use...

Want to go further get a good kernel and use JKay's framework...

Working perfect here with the above configuration, smooth multitasking! It would probably be a lot better with swap with Yank555's kernel. But sadly have no external class 10 sdcard here, yet!

I think the moral of the story is you have to tweak this device. Don't like tweaking, don't go with a bloated phone. That's what iOS is for, it's also for those that think they know what they are talking about ;) :D
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dgcruzing:
got a link to whats safe to kill?

i dont use any of Samsung apps so really would love to kill them all..
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NHS2008:
Damn!! After reading this thread, I feel I have made a grave mistake ordering the garnet red Galaxy S3 (for valentines day!). :'(
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
Can't you cancel the order?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NHS2008:
It's already shipped. Btw, I got it for 24k (446.80 USD) One month used.

I think I will resell it. Is it really THAT BAD??? I mean in all videos on Youtube, I have never seen anyone mention anything in this regard.

Also I think this can be combat by running a custom rom?? I am thinking of dual-booting, keeping the stock rom to use on special occasions as first and keeping a custom de-touchwized and debloated rom as second for Regular usage. Is this a viable solution? :cyclops:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
This phone isn't bad at all. The camera for one is awesome.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Melhisedek:
What is this and how do I delete it?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NHS2008:
That's one of the reasons I bought this phone!

Btw, can I overcome this by the way of dualbooting?? like I said in my last post?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Theshawty:
I only run rom. Stock is bloated and crap.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NHS2008:
Yeah, But the Stock Touchwiz is what sets Galaxy S3 apart from the rest!

All those cool little tricks...
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
Need root, then go to/system/Kies.exe and delete it, our freeze it or uninstall it with titanium....either way you need to be rooted to access system files
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Madarox:
Btw,I believe that multiwindow makes up for the bad memory management.Some may find it useless but I find it extremely useful especially if you use multiwindow control.I see it as an apology from samsung ;)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drakester09:
Heh, multi window is by large the strongest reason how I have convinced people to upgrade. For S3 and Note.

It also holds the highest in satisfaction factor that I have seen. :)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Paresh Kalinani:
How's this?

Well, I guess, in case of RAM, I'm lucky! :victory:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrcol:
I just checked my S3.

It is runnign neatrom lite.

Jkay framework. (hich someone said in this thread fixes some ram issues?).

I have stweaks running.

there is a few apps running, including dialer and contacts.

299meg free.

S2 using sentinel rom which is based of CM10.1 so an AOSP rom, has 384meg free, notably less running apps. The running apps page doesnt even scroll as only 4 running.

A comment on free ram, and I manage servers for a living.

there is basically 4 status's of ram.

free

active cached

inactive cache

locked/reserved

windows machines will display inactive cache ram as available and free as free.

Now active cache generally is not available for reuse immediatly, it can be used if the OS asks for it but there is a delay period of it been freed up. Inactive cached holds cached data but can be reused immediatly if the OS asks for it, although using inactive cache will have a bit more processing time than free ram, although this shouldnt be too noticeable.

A good memory manager when calculating free ram will treat inactive cache as free memory, android it seems doesnt give the breakdown of all these different states in its gui, to find it probably need to load up terminal emulator and check in that.

As I understand the reason this is an issue on android is due to the minfree and way it manages its memory, if free memory is low in android it closes apps and restricts multitasking? if so then in android's case free ram is 'not' wasted ram as it manipulates OS behaviour on app multitasking. Not to mention i think its a fair point across various OS that once free ram gets low enough there can be a performance impact. I am not a fan of using ram for the sake of it which some software does.

Now proper low ram is my galaxy ace it has less than 300 meg of ram. The S2 is noticebly far more comfortable able to multitask easily, I will report back here when I install apps on my S3 and see how it handles them.

I didnt get the i9305 because in the uk on contract its priced as high as the S4, its overpriced. Vendors here dont really want to sell it, many places its not even available. I see it on ebay for a reasonable price tho, although I think if I were to sell my S3 and the money I think I would get for it I think I would need to pay about £150 for it. which is a bit disheartening.

-edit--

After a reboot on the S3, same rom and settings it has a lot more free ram over 400meg. But whats standing out is that google play and email apps are running, this even due to the fact wifi and mobile data are both disabled and no email account is setup on the phone also sync is disabled. ofc google play exists on the AOSP rom on my S2 so it seems the roms themseoves are affecting which apps autostart (and as such use memory). I suspect if I ran autostarts and compared samsung to AOSP rom there will be quite a bit of difference.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jahanzeb1998@gmail.com:
I also suffered from this but I think their is a solution

Hi all I also suffered from this situation and my samsung galaxy s3 was also using largw amount of ram like 675/832 was the value at rest but I think I have found the cure go to settings, apps, downloaded and you should see some stock apps their open em up from clicking them and hit the uninstall updates for all stock apps under downloaded tab like google play store samsung allcast share iap etc.forme it worked now my ram is around 460/832 im happy and also not forget to delete your samaung account. Hope it works
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] intelligencexan:
Im using Telus variant with 2 gb ram.. Ours usually average at 1.2 gb being used at a time.

I disabled some services and it dropped down to 500-600mb only. Here are so screenshots if you guys arr interested
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notor1ouS-:
lol at this topic.

free ram is useless ram.

who cares if the s3 runs smooth anyway with 80mb ram free.

there are 0 ram issues on the s3
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tolis626:
You're either running your S3 too bare,like with no user apps,or you're just smoking something really good.Install more than 50 apps on a stock ROM and you will soon want to throw the phone as far away as possible.With AOSP ROMs I keep more than 250 apps installed and everything is MOSTLY ok.I do get some slowdowns from time to time,but they're brief and that's about it.

Also free RAM IS wasted RAM.Something is just seriously f*cked up in Sammy ROMs.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NBruderman:
I dont get why samsung didnt put 2gb in all devices version from the start, thats why i have to restart my device atleast once a day
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notor1ouS-:
running 120 apps and everything is smooth, even after 3 weeks. ram free around 70mb, np np.

nothing to cry about.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Simonna:
Quite not bad :D :good:

---------- Post added at 06:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:45 PM ----------

How?? What mods are you using?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Notor1ouS-:
Slimrom 7.5 and Temasek kernel (boeffla version). pegasusq governor and everything stock like. zzmove is laggy imo, that's why i don't use that. scheduler is row.

on Sammy: yank kernel and stock settings. i tried alot with zzmove, but that lag is annoying... pegasusq is running smooth any day
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MoonBlade:
Whenever i use cm 10.1 my free RAM is at the most upto 150 mb. while in stock rom (4.1.2) its always 200MB free RAM. this is after clearing memory in both the cases.

However at the same time i have seen better performance in s2 than in s3. multiple app switching/ muilti tasking , transitions etc are smoother is s2 than in s3.

dont use miui and complain RAM is low !!
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joevik:
Well, i would suggest you use the RAM rather than wasting it as long as the phone does not lag.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrcol:
well consider that .us s3 lte s3 and s4 all have no fm radio, I now prefer the s3 we have.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrjoy:
Hello guys. Plz guys help me. Can i use galaxy note ii S Pen on galaxy Siii. If yes then how? Kindly help
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DSA:
no

end of thread
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
No it's not :p
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrjoy:
mean you have the solution to use note ii S pen ?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slaphead20:
No, apologies,I was teasing DSA
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nhariamine:
used it and it not useful on s3 than the note 2

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