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[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
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Here's what I noticed between your GP 4.0 and mine

When looking at the running services you have 173mb used + 79mb free which is 252mb total

When looking at the running services on mine I have 220mb used + 74mb free which is 294mb total

On your System storage you have 731mb used and 1.2GB free

On my system storage I have 472mb used and 1.4GB free.

I know why I have more memory, but I don't know why I have more system storage since the custom rom has more system apps lol.

Anyways I think you should try Auto Memory Manager and set hidden application, content provider and empty application to 130 mb. I think many of your apps have running services you don't know about. and see if that helps. Advance Task Manager to me isn't that good.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Lag fix is some thing I found but never used, because I wasn't sure if it would work on my device. It does something called like trimming, which I read that some phones actually really need but most gingerbread devices don't. Yeah...When i first got the player I thought it was so cool that I could get all these paid games for free from Amazon's free app of the day, so I kinda went all out at first with that and left a lot on here. I have apps I've installed and never even touched lol. Mmkay, I'm gonna try that out...If it doesn't seem to help with anything, I'm thinking maybe just do a factory reset and then flash that custom kernel to get that extra ram....I'll let you know how this works out.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Also, I wanna ask this. You said you think the whole automatic rebooting thing is caused by an overwhelm in the ram usage. Is this also what you think causes the occasional freeze ups I get and am forced to do a force shut down (power button for 8 seconds)? The best example I can think of is when I'm playing a pretty heavy game, such as Shadowgun, and the game will just suddenly become unresponsive. Can't do anything, not even push the touch buttons. Have to force shut down the player. Sometimes the game will still be running (like the sounds keeps playing and the scenery still moves in the game) but I can't control or do anything, like it just kinda locks up. Of course, since I've uninstalled apps to free up ram and changed the settings in that app manager you told me to get I haven't tried it, but I will soon if the results from regular usage turn out well.

I was just wondering if you thought this was the same thing. I know you had said my android was rebooting because of ram, but I wasn't sure if this was also implied. Lol I have way too many problems with my player. Thank God I'm patient :P
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
"so I kinda went all out at first with that and left a lot on here. I have apps I've installed and never even touched lol." LOL You went crazy for games XD

And yes that is the case. Once all the available ram is used it the player up and crashes. Since you're a heavy gamer I'd also try flashing Ethereal since it boosts the GP4.0 performance by a lot. But once you get a custom kernel, get cpu master or something like that and overclock it, or set the min and max to 1ghz so it doesn't drop down. I would recommend Linrom V2 but it is too buggy and you have to back up your efs to before flashing it, otherwise it could brick your player.

Linrom V2 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2000584

Ethereal http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1729566
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Haha yeah...Yeah I did...Hmm, just out of curiosity, are their any roms or kernels that increase JUST the ram? All these roms that boost the performance look like they're going to kill my battery super fast. As I've said before, I'm pretty okay with how things are now...I'm just having ram issues and I can just overclock with tegrak - I don't care to have to set it every time I reboot.

Looks like I should probably install some sort of kernel or rom. Just help me pick a good one that fits my needs and I should be good to go I think. Does flashing a kernel or rom require me to wipe my device?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
All the GP 4.0 kernels increase your ram. As you see I'm using klin's R3 as I like it the best.

No you don't have to wipe your device when flashing a kernal.

Now when flashing a rom it depends. Most of the time you have to wipe. But just flash a gp 4.0 kernel if you want to keep things the way they are (as in your layout and stuff)

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1720457 here's the link for all gp rom/kernel devolopment. Scroll down to galaxy player 4.0 and its roms and kernels are under it. Make sure you go to settings > applications > development and check the box that says usb debugging before flashing.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
k. One last question. I think. According to that rom Redd, the stock kernel works much smoother and less buggy than others...Soo...Does this mean I'm gonna get even more bugs and problems with some speed boosts?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
I believe it has more to do with the roms than the kernels so i'd say no. When I was running the other roms except redd atm i did experience some bugs but when i was running with just the kernel it felt like stock with the ability to oc.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Hmm, okay. And after I flash the thing, can I go back to the stock kernel without having to wipe everything?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Yup you should be able to go back to the stock kernel as long have it. Just reflash with odin, if you go to R.E.D.D thread it's there for download.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Well Kiln's kernel seems to be looking the nicest. It seems to be a cleaned up version of STeVE's kernel. So I know these are probably newby questions, but I've never flashed a rom or kernel so bear with me here. Do I need to make a backup or something before flashing this thing? And if so, with what?

Also, are the installation steps for Klin's kernel the same as for STeVE's? The one for STeVE's seem to be more detailed and have some steps in them that Klin's do not. I just wanna be sure I don't screw something up.

And finally, just to clarify, installing this kernel is basically just going to allow for more features and add a bit more ram, right? No theme changes or wiping any apps away? After making those settings changes in Auto Memory Manager, my player is working so much better and smoother, and I almost always have 130 mb of ram available when the device is idle. But I am willing to install Klin's Kernel if you think it's gonna be worth it and could give me a performance boost. I like the idea of getting a bit more ram and being able to increase the sound quality with voodoo sound (I think Klin's kernel supports that). You say I'll be able to overclock when I get a custom kernel...Do you mean I'll be able to overclock and have it set on boot? Because I mean I can overclock now with tegrak, so I'm a bit confused with what you mean by that lol

I'm sorry dude. I'm a question torpedo lol. Thanks so much for all your help so far. You've been a huge help introducing me to all this stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Agh, well, I've been looking around at the different roms and kernels some more. I'm very indecisive which one(s) i want. Considering Redd doesn't require me to wipe, and supposedly boosts performance, it sounds very attractive. I could probably get used to the new themes and what not. Does Redd up the ram at all, or even up the performance at all? I mean the guy said Nova 3 was playable...And that sounds pretty awesome and an improvement over the stock performance.

As for Ethereal, that looks great as well but looks like it's gonna blow out my battery within like 5 hours of use, opposed to the near 15 hours I can get now.

I should probably have you point me to a kernel or rom (or both)...If you're cool with that.

I use my player for everything...Everything. School (web browsing for spanish dictionary and translation sites, email, etc), take pictures, I use the talk app a lot, some gaming, check the weather, keep up with things on amazon, youtube, etc...It's my universal device that doesn't call or text - I have a little cheapo phone to do that for me :) When it comes to themes, I can get used to things so doesn't matter. I like my battery to last, and don't want something that will drain it super fast.

Any suggestions for me? I feel really lazy not going out and searching for the right stuff myself, but I have, and I honestly cannot come to a conclusion. Also, keeping everything the way it is now (since the auto memory manager definitely seems to be fixing my issues) is also an option. But if you think I can do better, by all means tell me.

you're my android mentor :)
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
When flashing anything you should make a backup, however flashing a kernel shouldn't mess up the player unless you like pull out the USB cable while flashing lol. I flashed without backing up and it went smoothly. If you're using Odin to flash, make sure that only "Auto Reboot" and "F.Reset Time" are checked. DON'T HAVE RE-PARTITION CHECKED OR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A BAD TIME. Matter of fact here are my steps on flashing.

1) Download Klin's R3 found here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/z63hw13ub8apoib/R3_USA.tar

2) Download and install Kies found here: http://www.samsung.com/us/kies/ (if you haven't, it's for the driver)

3) Download and install Odin just click the link http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...IxHp1ISlP2fzGKhtw&sig2=ZjUHLCkIbG1_EprOk9enrA

4) Enable USB Debugging from the GP 4.0 (Settings-> Applications-> Development Check box for USB Debugging)

5) Turn off the player regularly then put it into download mode (Hold Volume down and power), Icon that says downloading at the bottom should pop up (looks like this http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kbK1_tQrtW4/UCsn3ps8W3I/AAAAAAAAAOM/PzEiPX4R6dA/s1600/download-mode.jpeg)

6) Open Odin (make sure only Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time are checked or you will brick your device)

7) Plug in Galaxy Player to USB port. Under ID:COM it should say something like 0:[COM4] and is yellow. In the message area it should say "Added!!"

8) Hit PDA and select the .tar file named "R3_USA.tar"

9) Hit Start and wait until it finishes. Should take anywhere from 3-5 seconds lol, and if you did it correctly when you turn it on the at boot along with the Samsung logo you should see a blue android that says SteveS or something (It's klins kernel but it's based off Steve's so that's why it says that)

10) Go to settings, about device, and on the kernel version it should read

"2.6.35.7-G1XXKPN-CL562447"

"kevin@kevin-Ubuntu #klin_US_R3"

11) Profit

Great to know the Auto Memory Manager is Working see you're profiting already :D

If you get stuck here's a more in depth look at how to flash roms and kernels http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1922461

and a youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0imhKnMtQ9A (It's for the 5.0 but the process is the same (except he is flashing roms/kernels that are for the GP 5.0) never flash a rom or kernel that's for a different device instant brick lol.

Yes the kernel allows for more features like Voodoo Mod, DSP manager, adds about 10 mbs of ram, gives you the ability to use ClockWorkMod (so you can easily do nandroid backups) and other tweaks. It doesn't retheme or change the stock rom out. You can overclock with tegrak without a kernel that's interesting. I know with the custom kernels you're able to over clock to 1.2ghz, and when using SetCpu or Tegrak you can overclock it further than that. With Antutu's CPU Turner you can have it set on boot. By the way do you get voltage control with Tegrak too without a custom kernel?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Sounds easy enough. Sounds about as easy as rooting. What app should I make a backup with?

Well with tegrak I can already overclock to 1.2ghz...my cousin has the stock kernel on the player as well, and he can do the same. I could probably even overclock past that, I've just never tried because I've always been scared I'll fry the cpu. Well I don't have voltage control but I could try it out.

So based on my post two up from this one, you think Klin's Kernel is my best choice out of all the roms and kernels to choose from? Do you think that will suit my needs the best out of them all?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Wow, Ethereal has better battery than stock? Wowzers. I think I'll definitely flash that eventually then...Do you have any idea on what kernel works best with ethereal?

Okay, I'm just gonna try flashing Klin's kernel for now to see how I like it. In the future, I'll look into ethereal some more. Okay, so clockworkmod. Think I got this. I'll probably flash the kernel tonight.

Indeed, US player.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
There's only 3 kernels for the stock roms lol. Klin works fine with all of them. Terasilent + Ethereal/IF gave me random reboots like I said before lol. So Klin is the best imo. Yeah It's way better than stock.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Okay so I'm trying to do a nandroid backup here before flashing the kernel...And within rom manager it says I need to install clockworkmod recovery...When i try to install it, it says to select my device, which is not listed...What am I supposed to do from there? I mean I assume I could just select the galaxy S, but I wanna make sure. Also, is installing the recovery going to change the way I'll have to flash the kernel? Just wanna be sure I do this safely. If I ended up bricking my player just because I didn't do a backup before flashing, I'd tear my eyes out.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Don't select galaxy s lol. I think rom manager has a different way of backing up data, and uses a different version of CWM that's in the kernel. I'm not too sure on that one though. If I remember correctly someone said not to use rom manager for our players because it causes CWM to half flash or something.

Lol remember I did it without backing up first so this is pretty new. And then I found this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1264463, which is what I thought. The only way to brick your device is if you mess up your bootloader of something important like that. A kernel doesn't mess with the bootloaders. Now if you where flashing a rom that's different. I believe that flashing a kernel with CWM is the safest way to do it. Good Luck :D
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Okay. Flashed it :)

EDIT: So I've flashed it. Seems to be successful , but...Is my CPU supposed to be constantly running at like 1.0 Ghz? It didn't do that before, but now that I've flashed the kernel is just consistently running at 1.0 GHz...
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Lol I was like I forgot to say back up your apps with Titanium Backup so in case something goes wrong you won't have to sit there in setup everything from scratch haha. Good thing it went well. Now you can go into clockworkmod now. When your device is off, turn it on and when samsung logo appears press volume up + power at the same time, and boom recovery. If you are using the player you have to install another app for it. Personally I use Notification Toggle since I'm on R.E.D.D now (works on stock rom too I think).

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Is tegrak on lol? Try messing with the setting in there and see what happens cause it isn't suppose to run at 1Ghz unless you had a lot of process boot up all at once.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
What CPU governor should I have going?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
That's a whole other thing lol. I usually use smarta**V2. But it depends on what you're doing. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1369817 Here's a list of pretty much all the governors, i/o and all that good stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Let me try this thing out for about 2 days, then Im gonna come back and report to you if Im having any weird problems. As od now, the cpu does seem to be running at a higher mhz than it usually does.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Hopefully it goes well when i run on powersave it stays at 1 ghz even with max and min set which makes no sense
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Okay...So here's what's been happening with everything.

Every Wednesday I fast from leisure technology, so I had it off all day of yesterday. So this is based off of the other night after I flashed the kernel and this far today. My CPU is definitely running more than it used to, which is really frustrating me. I run this widget https://play.google.com/store/apps/...51bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zYW5lbHMudGVtcGNwdXYyIl0. and it used to say that my CPU was usually running about 100 Mhz or 300 Mhz when everything was idle and no apps were running. Now, (it refreshes about every 3 seconds) it says my CPU is running like 800 Mhz to 1.0 Ghz (if I have the max set to 1.2, it runs that instead of 1.0) when it's idle with the smarta**v2 governor or the ondemand governor (ondemand is what I always had going before I got Klin's kernel). When I change the governor to conservative, it runs 100 Mhz SOMETIMES when idle but will jump up to 800 Mhz every couple seconds. The problem with running the conservative governor is that it makes everything kinda sluggish. I don't understand why it would be doing this, nor do I know how to fix it...I'm also nearly positive the widget is correct, because my player gets warmer much faster and more often than it did before in the spot where the CPU is.

OTHER than that, I actually kinda see a slight performance boost, but it is only slight. The big test was going to be if I could play temple run smoothly and without lag...I still can't. I still get random little lag spikes and hangs, even when overclocked at 1.2 ghz and with nearly 140 mbs of ram available. Most games are pretty playable because it doesn't bother me to get a little lag spike, but with temple run, if it isn't 100% smooth it's basically unplayable...Which makes me sad lol :(

If I cannot fix the CPU issue, I honestly think I might go back to the stock kernel, because the performance boost isn't really worth losing more battery, since I was already getting nearly equivalent performance after using auto memory manager...Any suggestions?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Hmmm I actually notice this now also. But I believe the kernel automatically scales the clock speed to whatever the max is to ensure that it doesn't lag. When using interactive x it idles between I think 1ghz and 800mhz when the screen is on. With lazy it goes from 1ghz to 100mhz really quickly lol. But this is only with screen is on. It shouldn't be getting hot though.

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Also did it make your battery die faster?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Hm, I see...Can't say I love that it does that since I wasn't getting really any lag before (after auto memory manager that is). Well, I mean it does get noticably warm on the back of the player where the cpu is located...Not sure what to do about that. It'd be fun to make an android cpu heatsink sometime lol.

It does indeed kill the battery faster :( Not tons faster, but a bit faster. The battery usage thing says the adroid system is using about 13% battery, when it used to say like 5%. The battery isn't too bad of a deal I don't think.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Lol and heatsink would be helpful when charging and using the player. I always get like 104 degrees when I do haha. A 8% jump dang. I guess the only thing you can do is set max to 800 or 400 mhz and when you start gaming change it. I never noticed this until you pointed out.

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Also you can undevolt but dont go super low because you can cause you player to shutdown. I say if you do under volt go 50 -100
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Okay. Might try those things...Idk thougj. I like the speed increase, but I'm not sure it's worth the battery decrease. To go back to stock I just have to reflash the kernel right? Don't have to delete anything?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
Yup reflash the stock kernel and it should be good. But backup your apps using titanium backup just in case
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Well even after undervolting -50 on all mhz levels, my battery is still draining more than i wish it would...Looks like I'll probably go back to stock. I enjoyed checking the kernel out though. If I get word from the guy who made REDD (whatever his name is, i forget) that Ethereal does indeed seem to perform better than stock, I'll maybe try and convert over to that. As for now, I'll just stick with stock.

Thanks for all your help man. Although we never really did find a way to fix the lag spikes I get in games (such as temple run), we did cure a lot of the lag and hangs, and that's way better than nothing. Very grateful. Thanks a bunch! Learned tons! :):highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
His name is iJimaniac :p. Just to let you know that if you do decide to flash Ethereal you still need to use one of the custom kernels and you have to wipe data (so backup your apps as I said before) lol. However, I can vouch that the battery life is so much better than stock haha. Yeah at least we did get rid of some of the hang ups. I tried Auto Memory Manager for you, just before telling you about it so I learned from this thread as well. Makes the Galaxy Player work so much better. And you're very welcome. Hope everything goes A ok :highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] WHib96:
Okay so I apologize for coming back after like 3 days. 3 days isn't long enough for the thread to be considered dead yet :P I decided I'd try to give this kernel a bit more of a chance, and I'm toying around with the voltage settings to attempt to get my battery back to how it used to be with the stock kernel while keeping the nice speed boost of this kernel. I went ahead and decided to download the stock kernel from the REDD thread, but I realized it's just the zImage, and not in a .tar file...So, I don't know how i'd flash that in Odin. I mean I practically feel like I could just take any .tar file and throw the zImage in there and then flash it, but I don't wanna do something stupid. I'm sure the answer is obvious, but I just wanted to check with you before I tried anything.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] obscuresword:
It's been 3 days lol. Since it's a zImage you may have to flash through Heimdal and I never used that before so I went to the thread found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=878686 it has pictures haha. I would ask iJimaniac on how to use it though. I extracted my stock.tar file and it also had just zImage too. I exacted Klins kernel and that too had zImage. I'm guessing you can just add the extension .tar to the end but I don't know.