yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
I agree with Arun Av :)

Anyway, can you also fix the ovesized bluetooth icon when it's activated on the status bar? it might not be a big problem but still it needs to be fix so that the rom will look really completely stable :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] SS-4050:
I can considered it to be a stable release (Well it's a Final release)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ironhide3.2:
yah yah alright so the final version. okay.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] wawan20:
in stable version i found a bug ,, when i change signal icon in AOKP setting, the icon not chage ..

any fix ??
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] bejunk:
..

sry for may n00b question but i search for 10 mins and cant find dowload link for newest build, 22.4.0.

or is it nightly with build 29/7 ??? thanks in advance :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] berlin20spandau:
Newest & Final Build is from 07 Aug its some sites backwardz linked ;)

Mango SK17i Mini Pro PACed n' powered by nAa's 3.4.x Kernel

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Here it is

goo.im/devs/singh_dd93

Just go to your Device folder n load it

Use Kernel inside Zip

Mango SK17i Mini Pro PACed n' powered by nAa's 3.4.x Kernel
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] rahimali:
latest build here
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hmnk:
Hi.. Is there any workaround or something to get the different modes (tablet, phablet, PA colors) in PA preferences to work on the PA 4.2.2 Final build??

Thank you!

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Hi.. Is there any workaround or something to get the different modes (tablet, phablet, PA colors) in PA preferences to work on the PA 4.2.2 Final build??

Thank you!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] berlin20spandau:
I think that has todo with SystemUI & or Framework so replace it with right permissions from an older version maybe

I don't kow if this is right but itz my thinking

Or does it have to do with PAprefz.apk itself...?

Singh can you tell us from where you removed the modez plz
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
No its just config files missing .

I'll make a flashable zip and upload within few hours.

Working on PAC 4.3 now
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Here is the fix.

Sorry for the bug and delay in fixing it

Just flash the zip in recovery
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hmnk:
Thanks a lot Singh :)

I've been using this ROM for two days now.. And all I want to say is "thank you Singh".

The ROM is smooth, lag free.. The battery life has been improved drastically as compared to the earlier releases that I have tried..

The battery life is almost as good as or maybe even better than 4.1.2 based PAC ROM (SmartassV2 + Sio).

But I have noticed a bug.. If I enable WiFi tethering, I get very slow internet speed as compared to what I get on my phone. If I keep my phone in an unchanged position and do a speed test, it shows nearly 3 Mbps download speed, but if I do a speed test on my PC after connecting to my phone's internet via WiFi tethering, I get very slow speeds.. But if I use USB Tethering, I get the same speed as I get on my phone.

I like this ROM so much that I don't mind connecting my phone via USB when I want to use my phone's internet on my PC, but it would be really nice if you could fix this issue concerning WiFi tethering as it is much more convenient in comparison to USB tethering.

Also, the internet disconnects frequently when using WiFi tethering. Turning off and on, the WiFi hotspot, makes the internet work for sometime on PC without disconnection.

Hoping you can help me with this Singh (I never had this issue with PAC 4.1.2).

Thanks!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Arun Av:
wifi tethering is buggy and is still being worked on(anyone correct me if I'm wrong) by legacyxperia team. Unless they fix it, there's no way the issue can be fixed in PAC.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Dzol Cp:
The stable version was very awesome! :D

We all just need to wait for latest 4.3 and no ETA's

I just make a remod systemui/framework for last stable version from [MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION] files

20130807

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2355311

CREDITS :

[MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION]
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
PAC 4.3 beta coming up soon
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hmnk:
Sorry for this n00bish question, but is it possible to change the statusbar transparency? And if so, then how? Thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ntn359:
Try hybrid settings > interface > global colors... Try to change transparency while changing colour...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] hmnk:
Thanks :) Don't know how I missed that..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
A teaser of upcoming alpha build

If everything goes well build will be available in 12 hours

Its almost 2 am here and I gonna sleep while my buildbox runs builds for all devices
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Builds are now being uploaded on basketbuild.

Check them out in $device/alpha folder
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] aXel047:
Is it getting uploaded or is it done already?

I don't seem to find alpha build for mango! :confused:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
ATM iyokan is getting uploaded.

They get uploaded alphabetically

Next is mango
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] iflawlietasgod:
performance control is force close after reboot, any fix ? thx
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Which device

Which rom version

Did you make a clean install ir durty flash ??

Also attach logcats of FCs

I cant take them from your phone directly
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] iflawlietasgod:
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention it..

I'm using your stable version of P.A.C 4.2.2 on my LWW and of course, I made clean install..

I just don't know how to make logcats, sorry
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Micha_Btz:
Hi there,

i use the pac 4.2.2 final with mango device. if i plug in the headset, immediately the dsp manager has a fc.

not a clean install, an upgrade from nightly 24.07.2013. did anyone expected the same problem?

micha
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Alpha Build0816 Smultron

Here's what I've noted:

-Graphic glitches/lags, font issues, image distortion and all wallpapers that is set to be the homescreen wallpaper will loose it's quality.

-Camera 4.3's preview is broken but can take pictures and videos. Panorama is also working but the taken Panorama photo is broken.

-Focal's camera preview is broken. All functions of the Focal camera at the first run will work but with a little lag but the next time we'll use it, it will force close ("Cannot connect to Camera")

-If the option:"Scanning always available" is on in Wifi settings, therefore it should be turned off cause it drains the battery too much.

-Battery life is slightly bettery than Mike's CM10.2

-In Settings/Partition Info, Partition and ExPartition are misread as "Unavailable", Partitions are really working, maybe just a typo.

-Trebuchet Launcher issues/fcs

-CRT off animation is not properly working like on Mike's first build of CM10.2

-Pressing SELinux 3 times or more will result in soft reboot.

-In Settings/Language Input, Settings icon is too large (Idk if that is the real size of the icon but for me, it's large)

-Bluetooth icon on the status bar is large, must resize it to MDPI.

-In DSP Manager, Bass Boost is broken when playing Music. But with headest plugged in, the Sound and all options in DSP is working fine.

-Brightness Slider is still working even if it is turned off

-SMS/MMS/Call are working :good:

-Superuser is working :good:

-Wifi is wokring :good:

-Reboot to recovery is working :good:

-I can't believe it, multitasking is great here in Alpha build!

I may be provide logcats later if I can lol. Will test this Alpha Build 'till tomorrow.

-EDIT-

Provided logcats for Trebuchet and Focal along with other screenies.

-1st image, the photo I take with the Panorama option in 4.3 Camera

-2nd, font issues

-3rd, settings icons are huge, needed to resize in MDPI

-4th Antutu score

-5th When setting a wallpaper, notice the losness of the quality of the wallpaper

-6th I just love seeing the Pac icon above the status bar moving lol, it's cute ^^
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Thanks for the report

We will and are working hard to fix bugs.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
New builds available with backlight control ( thanks to [MENTION=3839575]mikeioannina[/MENTION] )
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
What is the difference between those three 4.3 builds in Smultron?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
They are just like the nightlies . there will be a new build everyday.

New builds include latest patches from cm and fixed bugs
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
One last question, is the newest build is on the top? because I cannot identify which is the newest, all of those three are in the same date lol :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Check either the build time or upload time.

In the zip name time is followed by date in 24 hours format
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Ok, thank you so much! Gonna test it :highfive:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ansebovi:
Amazing 4.3

wow i m really amazed bro.....

there are lot of plus

customizations are more cool in 4.3 than 4.2 thank u....easier to navigate and multitask..

nice bootanimation,...cute.. :)

now free ram is high...

all options gets upgraded

one doubt how did u expanded sytem space to 420mb? and installed app only 12mb? really amazed here...can i kno how?

bugs are both camera and focal not working :(,lags sometimes,led,fm

other than this all are minors i think and halo messages are misplacing outside of the given space

this is the most customizable rom for android :)

PAC IS AWESOME IN 4.3 unlike cm10.2 [my thinking is both cm10.1 and cm10.2 are more or less same]

ty PAC AND U... :)

really waiting for 4.3 stable release...
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
The halo messages can't be fixed due to our small screen size.

We are working on fixing other things.

Camera and focal both come directly from legacy xperia so I don't have control over that
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Aayushya:
That's sad news. :(
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] junk!e:
@ singh_dd93 In the 4.2 builds when On screen navigation was enabled, the pie used to get disabled when expanded mode is disabled. But in 4.3 build, in the Expanded desktop mode both on screen navigation and pie are enabled. Could you please look into that thank you. :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Have been fixed

Try the new build ( its coming up in about an hour )
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] joeheim:
SemcClock.apk

Hi there,

I quite like this app, unfortunately I can't get it to run.

I took the SemcClock.apk from JellyVanilla EX 5.1 ([ROM][4.2.2][ALL MDPI] , copied it to system/app, set the permissions to rw-r-r, rebooted

and received the following error message : Unfortunately, Clock has stopped.

Just installing it as app doesn't work either.

Anybody with an idea how to get it work?

Thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Semc apps won't work just by copy and paste of apk. They need the specific changes in framework and also their own framework-semc.apk

There are few other dependencies too
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Frankin96:
Hi Singh..

Will we have a new nightly today, as mike has fixed camera in source?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ansebovi:
bro got a fix of focal[i didnt create just found]

first remove focal which is in system/app using any root explorer

then flash the below on recovery

link--- http://d-h.st/WtZ

[NOTE: only front,back camera photos are working...some effects are working others will give fc]
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smarthavoc:
looks like mike has fixed it on lx, wo soon pac builds will get the best of it :laugh:

edit: camera preview is working fine on 21/8 build

now the 4.2 camera can take photos (quality is the same we know-720p disabled)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Build0822 (Where camera preview fixed) Smultron

Both Camera and Focal are now having a perfect preview :) somehow it blinks with a color green but can still take pictures, videos and panoramas (buggy). Anyway, is it me or the settings for "Auto-focus mode" is missing? because without auto focus mode, pictures taken are really blurry and they have a bad quality :(

-EDIT-

Charging indicator on the battery icon is not presented except for AOKP battery icon. Battery icon just shows a full solid color even if it is 43%. This is a bug since on PAC 4.2.2 on MDPI devices cause on HDPI devices like I tested on Xperia Arc does not have this problem. Also Wifi icon on the status bar has the same issue, it just presents a solid color.

(Attached screenies)

The first one is came from an HDPI device, the second one is from my MDPI device, please fix the battery icon image glitch thanks!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sathub4u:
How did u update bro where is the update download link

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Hi bro i am using Aneels Honami rom now..Its really performing ood..Does this rom woth changing..I am using Sony LWW

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Hi bro,I am using Sony LWW running under Honami rom by Aneel..It is performing good..I just wan to knw the performance of PAC rom..So that i can switch over..{Plz reply with what u feel..thanks
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smarthavoc:
perhaps give it a try, honami rom is based on stock ics and pac is based on cm,paranoid, aokp littlebit of slimbean,carbon etc

its jellybean 4.2.2 & 4.3

there are many roms in xda, we have to search,try and find the rom that suits us

so give it a try if you wish

all instructions, downloads are in post#1
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sathub4u:
Performane in LWW

Hi bro i am using Honami rom in my LWw and it suits to the perfection batery life is superb and its smoot..I want to kwn about ur review about PAC rom..How is it performing so far..What makes it outstanding any new features???????? :cyclops:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Arun Av:
PAC is based on CM, PA and AOKP only. The other names you mentioned (slimbean,carbon) are modded and cooked roms based on legacyxperia and pac. Just wanted to correct u :)

EDIT: My bad. PAC has features from slimbean.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
We have a few features from slimbean ( inversion ) on which PIB is based
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] smarthavoc:
it was in main thread,

moreover pac in black was based on slimbean's inversion

heard of some other features from rootbox also
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ansebovi:
bro seen a bug i dont know its for me only or others also...

but when wifi on it didnt glow in blue and only after scroll down and come up again it starts glow..

then bluetooth is not turn on from settings we should enter bluetooth option and have to turn it on..

i know these are minor...

but try to fix or post on faq like something please..
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Arun Av:
Oh I must have missed the info. Sorry! And thanks for letting know :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
I have tried to fix this. Fix is present in upcoming build.

I have just launched the builds so it may take up to 3 hours for them to be available.

Please do test and report.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Thanks for report

We are working on fixing BT button
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] ansebovi:
bro in last two builds wifi is not working or did u change kernel?...used ur previous RC-1 nightly libs to get it working

in last build status bar icons are big..

still the bug i told earlier is there...

about camera....place it data folder[both focal and gallery 2] we can take shots cleanly with more clarity with autofocus...no green patches if in data folder[in system folder always green flickers]...but no preview available..

the bug

its not in my phone.... in previous releases[before ur last build]...all battery icon,wifi icon are having perfect levels and bars color working fine ...

maybe he customized color of systemui so that altered...see images beloww...[text font will be different since i m using nokia pure font]

this is from latest build

if u want i can give u video without the above bug..

i created my zpac with only bug of that BT,WIFI button i told...

and just a doubt every time a fc happens it says blame tyler...who is he?
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Bro it only happens when PA colors is chosen. On Stock UI, all icons are presenting each respective colors completely.

And yeah I agree there is an additional dialog mentioning Tyler along with the fc lol
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
I am free tomorrow as its Saturday and I'll fix the status bar icons bug tomorrow

Also Tyler is one if the dev in our team. We used to blame him for everything that goes wrong and we have now included that in ROM
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Peyman.A:
Hi man. First I just want to say thanks for the ROM. PAC ROM was the best since I root my phone!!!

I just wonder if you could give a fix zip(camera) or something for the 4.1.2 PAC because that version doesn't have the battery drain.

Thanks alot
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
PAC 4.1.2 has been abandoned a long time back

More over the camera fix is in system not app and is only for 4.2 and 4.3
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Finally fixed status bar icons
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
YAY! Thank you, gonna test it ^_^

-EDIT- again

[MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION] ohh sorry for asking such a stupid question, thanks anyways :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Yes I removed alpha folder as PAC is out of alpha stage

Now the nightlies will be in nightly folder

Also I am building for all devices ATM

Builds will be available in about an hour
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Nightly Build0824 Smultron (StatusBar icons fixes)

On Settings/Clock/DateDisplay and when I select Long Month, it just shows "A" for month, is it normal? or a bug?

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Btw, Wifi and Battery icon are fine presenting their colors completely but they look blurry unlike the Signal icon it's sharp ;)

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Bluetooth icon should be resize for all MDPI devices.

-Setting a wallpaper on homescreen still looks very crappy.

And last:

-Nav Bar is not showing when enabled on Hybrid Properties even if rebooted. It will only show up after activating "Full Screen/Pie Mode" and deactivating then.

-Some SystemUI fcs

-Low quality of graphics and images.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] andogeek10:
[MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION], just to inform you the recovery included in the kernel image of the latest nightly is not stable. It formatted my whole sd card and corrupted it, while it was doing a factory reset.
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
Recovery gets updated from cm directly

We don't control it
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] aXel047:
SAME HERE :crying:

Luckily had a recovery software which helped me get most of my data back!
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] andogeek10:
Unfortunately, my whole partition got destroyed so the software couldn't even recover one file properly. Anyway, the cleaning up of my sdcard was long due.:laugh:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] :
[MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION] which commits should in include CM manifest to use PA for using HALO in 4.3 ....?? :)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] singh_dd93:
I don't understand what you mean ?

More over this is PAC man topic not general discussion

Open thread in general section
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sathub4u:
PAC on LWW???????

Hi bro has this rom got stable in its new update..Can i try it on my LWW or wait for further improvisation????? plzz help
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] SS-4050:
In my opinion, Yes it is.

Just try it (Expect some bug as always)
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] JovieBrett:
Omg, thank god it didn't happened to me when I flashed it. However, I encountered a strange line of errors when I entered recovery. At first, it did saying "mounting sd card" (which happened very unusual when I enter recovery) then I ignore it and did wiped data, cache and dalvik cache. There's a strange thing happened after when I wiped data, it shows like this:

-- Wiping data...
Formatting /data...
Formatting /cache...
Formatting /sd-ext...
I:Formatting unknown device.
rm: can't remove '.' or '..'
rm: can't remove '.' or '..'
[B]Formatting /storage/sdcard0/.android_secure...[/B]
I:605 Volume sdcard0 /storage/sdcard0 state changed from 4 (Mounted) to 5 (Unmounting)
I:605 Volume sdcard0 /storage/sdcard0 state changed from 5 (Unmounting) to 0 (No-Media)
I:406 0 volume operation failed (No such file or directory)
E:format_volume failed to unmount /storage/sdcard0I:401 0 volume operation failed (No such device)
Data wipe complete.

On the bolded line, I encountered an error saying it fails to wipe while I was wiping data/factory reset but after all of that, it just normally finishes wiping :confused: strange but anyway thank goodness it did not ruined my sd card
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sathub4u:
I wish to install tis Pac rom bro..But reviews say there is risk of losing SD card datas..Can we instal witout wiping system datas?????
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] gocegi:
You are not suppose to format system at ANY time. Only wipe cache and dalvik.

On a side note, a had no problems whatsoever installing 0824 PAC. Only the mount unmount lines about sd were present, but non memory corruption whatsoever.

I must say, this rom ROCKS.

Only bug I found s that statusbar transparency tends to loose after a while, but I am new to PAC, so it will take me time to learn it.

Other than that... Its customization options are MIND F***ING BLOWING.

Great Job [MENTION=4282166]singh_dd93[/MENTION]
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Mini, Mini Pro, Xperia Pro, A] Sathub4u:
Thanks 4 ur reply bro..I am going to try 25/08:) I ll use n write my review