yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] seriousneo:
Will this rom ever have delta updates?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hatememarkz:
follow the rules what's out or dev it

runniN 4.4+ somethiN on my ?GS²?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
That sounds very interesting. Have never seen it on any rom. Have you?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] seriousneo:
It's just an honest question. No need to go full retard in the answer.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] deani77:
Delta update would be nice addition. Really enjoyed it while using OmniROM
[Nexus 4 Android Development] trogper:
Now I'm on PAC and is here in hybrid properties.

PAC has full hybrid engine from paranoid android.

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Are there stock animations in carbon ROM?

Here on PAC they've replaced almost all of them.

eg opening app, closing app, going deeper in settings etc
[Nexus 4 Android Development] flame360:
How do I take an app out of floating mode ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Qs5:
Press the multitasking button again in the navigation bar, and click the app again.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DehoXeD:
They're are still alive

Hi community,

Some news from Carbon Team - They're still working on it, Do not despair ^^.

Carbon 4.4 - Still in progress​

We can hope it's a question of days now? :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] _artem_:
That page layout makes me hate them... c'mon guys even a 6 y.o. kid will make that layout fit the whole screen width

Btw that full screen ad made my day
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RealSlimShadyMC:
Perfect for me, untick "request desktop site".
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nickster1:
You hate them cause you don't know how to load a Web page??? Honestly, why even post here? Why not just move on to something else instead of complaining here. When I read on a "development" thread I want to read about just that. Quit complaining!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] _artem_:
Stop talking crap dudes, here you go.

No differences if I force desktop or not
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nickster1:
Hey look at that I can open a website all by myself!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Cyanoshake:
Lol all are you guys running that unofficial build Team Carbon gave out on this forum like 2 weeks ago?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nickster1:
No not anymore. I'm on AOKP atm.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] _artem_:
You are such a trololo, you just zoomed in, is that ok to see couple out words per line? I don't think so

Here is an example how it should look like (forced and not forced look absolutely the same here, even not zoomed in)

Check it yourself and compare the result to carbon page

http://blog.andreascarpino.it/kde-frameworks-packages-on-arch-linux/
[Nexus 4 Android Development] iskandar1023:
Please stop complaining about website, this is ROM development thread and not WEBPAGE development thread.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] trogper:
Do you guys have stock animations?

Currently I'm on PAC and they replaced most of them.

Stock ones aren't even in animation control
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
201401050212 is a very special number if you know where to use it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DehoXeD:
Now I hate you ! WHERE? ^^ (Not on website / not on goo / not even on google !!! xD)

Or your signature would be a lie? ^^
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Rohit02:
Even I tried the same..:P

The guy who thanked you, has he even tried that code? If yes,WHERE.. :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
Obviously you don't know where to use it. Or I possibly fat fingered the number the first time around and have since corrected it. It's late and I'm tired.

My signature speaks the truth, however.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tomvs16:
He probably compiled it himself.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dcop7:
The Carbon Team didn't release the Carbon Rom KK for some reason. There are still bugs to solve, features to implement to give the most of the ROM.

When it will be ready, Carbon Team will release it. Any early builds, kangs or unofficial builds, there is probably bugs and missed features compared with Carbon 4.3.

Wait for the Carbon Team to release a great and stable Rom.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kamp:
Yeh, it was probably fat fingers.

The magic number is 20140105-0212
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cenonmin:
Must have been removed, doing http://goo.im/CARBON-KK-UNOFFICIAL-20140105-0212 does not show a Mako build :(
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kurniawan77:
[MENTION=1523205]PhaseBurn[/MENTION] keep those nightlies comin...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
I cannot stress this enough. Any builds here are 100% unofficial and are not supported by the Carbon developers. They work well enough for me to use as a daily driver, but that is not meant to be an endorsement that they're stable, feature complete, or anything else at the moment.

When things are ready, I'll flip the switch and enable official nightly builds. Right now things are too premature. It isn't as if we're feature-complete and just unstable, we're not feature-complete yet. There are gaping holes in Carbon Fibers. There are outstanding issues with things that aren't a hole. In other words, I can't verify that Carbon won't kill your cat, run off with your girlfriend, or sew all your pockets closed.

That being said, if you're alright with the above, and wish to see how things are progressing, be my guest.

I will also officially say that people should not assume that everything from 4.3 will be present in 4.4. There's a lot of new features we're working on (lockscreen notifications, for instance) that weren't in 4.3 and a few things that we're abandoning from that branch, too. I'm sorry I can't say more than that. Just give us time to build our vision and when we feel it's ready, we think you'll like it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kurniawan77:
No not goo.im, its a private link.... Until PhaseBurn says so
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
If you read back you can figure out the link. If someone directly posts the link I'm pulling the build from the server. I don't have the bandwidth for a large number of people hammering my devrel box, nor do I want a ton of people running this without knowing exactly what it is: a unofficial prerelease that we know isn't stable or feature-complete yet. I've already seen at least one post in the official Google+ community about my builds and I'd like to avoid that if at all possible. Google crawls XDA and if a link is posted, it'll show up in search results for people to make use of without reading the posts here, which clearly state this is a pre-release and not complete build. Thus, I'm making a small hurdle to jump through for it. Consider it a CAPCHA equivalent, if you will.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Qs5:
Found it! ;) took me a while, but I had to look back and I got it. :P "20140105-0212"
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DehoXeD:
How can you say that with Unofficial wrote with caps on your build number (Where it should be wrote nighties maybe? -_-)???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kurniawan77:
Love the Lockscreen Notifications... and the blurrrr
[Nexus 4 Android Development] musa47:
Self compiled?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
The builds I use do say nightly on them if you must know.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] setherd:
Thanks Phaseburn!

downloading now :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] musa47:
Where where where?

Oh now I see. It's a trick. :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] barome:
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[Nexus 4 Android Development] Voltaine:
To the ones who already use phase burns build:

Is it stable enough for daily use?

Which kernel do you use it with?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dppow:
Playing around with it for about half an hour using multirom, so far no random reboot
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ahmadov1:
I like the lockscreen notifications

Is it a new carbon feature ?!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kurniawan77:
Did PhaseBurn gave you permissions to share???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] musa47:
AOSPA feature.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] barome:
He give some tricks to dl it. He don't give direct link because he have a bad connection. So I uploaded it... And Android is open source right ???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] VIPOA:
*AOSPAL feature.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] powerdoesntrun:
I've been trying out PhaseBurn's build and so far no major issues other than the Themes Provider seems to crash randomly.

UPDATE: Also doesn't seem to play well with Franco and Touch Control. AOKP's nightly is more stable, so I'll switch to that for now, but I'll be back when Carbon Kit Kat is more mature.

UPDATE 2: Well, crap, same problem on AOKP. Guess KitKat, Franco and Touch Control are not happy with each other. So I guess it has nothing to do with Carbon. Carry on.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rancatoco:
Which kernel version should I use to build 17.11.2013?

I want instal the touch control and need to know which kernel i can use to get it work.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] millomonk:
building

To the ones who made their own build from source:

I managed to build a working rom on 05/01. But since then I always get the follwing error:

make: *** No rule to make target `system/media/bootanimation.zip', needed by `/android/carbon/out/target/product/mako/'. Stop.

Is there anybody with the same issue or an idea what might be the problem? I know that carbon is not yet officially released. So I don't request any support. But maybe someone has a small hint for me?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
Gerrit 1524 & 1525 fix this.

Also if you want to fix the LTE QuickSettings toggle, also cherry pick 1462 and 1467.

Sent from my Nexus 4

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The source is open. Do what you want with it. However what I've done with that source (including the simple act of compiling it) becomes mine and I never gave you authorization to distribute it.

My name is all over that build. You have no right to distribute it. Please take down the link. If you wish to distribute a working build of Carbon, compile it yourself from the code (which you have every right to do).

I will not be posting any more builds if the mega link is not removed immediately. I'm sorry I have to do that, I don't really want to. I'll happily help anybody compile their own builds of Carbon and they can distribute them however they want as widely as they want. But since I'm the official maintainer for Carbon on mako and the rest of the team doesn't want to release just yet I have to honor their requests and can only do so much with "test compiles" that I give out to friends only.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] barome:
So, deleted ;)

And I sent a pm to you
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
The kernel that is included is working great.

Franco's has issues with touch control, I know this much. It's possible that the Carbon mako tree will be moving to the franco kernel source at some point, too, if I or franco can get that issue resolved. I've already done this for the manta tree (though the bringup on that isn't quite complete) and since I'm maintaining both mako and manta, having a unified kernel tree between the two devices would probably be a bit easier. So that *may* happen. But as it stands right now, the current tree is stable and working well, though it lacks fastcharge. I might port that in later this weekend or next week, if it's a huge deal.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] reaperofwaywardsouls:
Quite stable. I use faux's kernel and have no issues.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] millomonk:
I'm so stupid. Didn't think about looking into gerrit at all. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] diegocr:
answered yet, delete
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
All of my fixes for mako are in Gerrit.

I actually don't commit directly to git (prefer staging through gerrit for various reasons.

You can see my merged Gerrit commits here: http://review.carbon-rom.com/#/q/owner:phaseburn%40phaseburn.net+status:merged,n,z

And my open ones (not for mako, usually) here:

http://review.carbon-rom.com/#/q/owner:phaseburn%40phaseburn.net+status:open,n,z
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cenonmin:
I wonder how much longer till 2013 Christmas comes :P hehehe
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RohanM:
U mean 2014 ;)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
I'm not a Christian. I don't celebrate Christmas.

But if I were to play the lottery, I'd check here on Tuesday for numbers.

On a casually related note, the numbers I played a couple days ago weren't a total bust: 20, 14, 1, 9, 13, and 4

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] setherd:
OK that one took me a while to figure out.... I missed the 13. that made it interesting:D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dr.4dmin:
Base in 4.4.2 or 4.2.2???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Qs5:
.................................................................................................................. Neither.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] StefanW13:
Is the link down, or am i just to stupid to get it? Thanks in advance for info.

PS: If its me, and the link should work, a hint (maybe PM) would be nice! Thanks and greets
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
Welp...

It's been a great run, ladies and gents, but, I'm throwing in the towel. Today's build (which I should be posting toward the end of the day, possibly even into "tomorrow" for some of you), will be the last build I'm posting here. Don't worry, I'm going to continue to be active in this thread, and will gladly help anybody compile Carbon from sources if they so choose. But, I will not be posting links to my builds any more.

The reason for this is because as of tonight, CarbonDelta will be integrated into it, and the builds will keep themselves up to date (more or less), so there will no longer be a reason for me to post full builds. Huzzah, and all that crap. I think.

Yea, big surprises, and another checkbox ticked off on the path to official nightlies. I can't say for sure what corner they're around (I don't even know myself), but they're around one of them, and we're coming up on it...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sean222:
Well thanks for all your work and contributions thus far; your unofficial Carbon build has been running flawlessly for me and for the first time in a long time I've been able to ditch Xposed Framework! Official Carbon will be amazing if your work is any indication of what's to come ;) Looking forward to your final build :) Thanks again.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] _artem_:
If it's omni's OpenDelta, then it just sucks that carbon adds copycrap rights by adding its name to the delta module. Even omni uses it as OpenDelta, and not as OmniDelta
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mat226:
Is there any chance to have sweep2wake on this awesome ROM?!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] johnb380:
You just need a kernel That activates It In trickster like AK kernel etc...

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mat226:
can you give me a link? i try any 4.3.x kernel i found but all of them had graphical bugs on this ROM. :(
[Nexus 4 Android Development] johnb380:
http://ak.hiddenbytes.org

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mat226:
I flash it now as a clean flash but after kernel the screen does not render correctly...:( Special in games
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
It is based on omni's OpenDelta, but it works with Carbon, and not omni. Thus, Carbon Delta. Additionally, it's branded as Carbon Delta to provide consistency with the other Carbon components, like Carbon Fibers and Carbon Wallpapers, as well as Dark Carbon.

If you have an issue with our adding "copycrap rights" to something we've modified and release the source to, as required by and in the spirit of the original license (GPLv3), then feel free to write the EFF and don't use our implementation of OpenDelta. Nobody involved in the Carbon Delta project has ever claimed ownership of it, and it's been attributed in every possible place to the Omni team, specifically Chainfire, as the base.

Perhaps you should direct some of your frustration at the GPL itself for allowing such uses, rather than the people who use the license as it was intended, in good faith and spirit?

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This URL self destructed at 8am on Wednesday, January 15th, 2014.

This will be the last full ROM I post on the thread most likely. If you save the zip file in the root of your internal storage, it'll pick up auto-updates when they're released as I get around to them. I'm releasing this only as a test of the automatic update system. It is NOT a general use, official Carbon release.

There's a small bonus, though - when we enable nightly builds for mako, this build (and its subsequent updates) should (emphasis: should) automagically migrate to the NIGHTLY branch so you don't have to worry about downloading and reflashing.

Yes, there's a SystemUI force close upon boot for some people. Tap the "OK" button and it won't bother you until you reboot once more. I'm working on fixing it. Everything else should behave itself. There's a couple placeholder graphics here and there, and some incomplete functionality in Carbon Fibers. It's not finished, nor up to the level of polish the Carbon Team believes is necessary for a general release. The standard disclaimer applies - neither I, nor Team Carbon, are responsible if this build bricks your phone, kills your cat, impregnates your daughter, or steals your car after replacing your new PS4 with a 3DO. You have been warned.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] snacs:
Very very very thank's thanks for your contribution [MENTION=1523205]PhaseBurn[/MENTION].
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Andre_Vitto:
So any word on real official carbon 4.4?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nadaltennis77:
I know this might seem like a weird question right now...but what are the steps to updating from Carbonrom 4.2.2 to 4.3? Is there anything about flashing a new bootloader or radio or anything? Or can i just wipe and flash the new rom?

Much appreciation
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
The only timeframe I can provide is "When it's ready".

I don't say that in jest, or as a troll, or in any way to cause contention or irritation. It is, though, the only answer that I can provide, because there is no date set.

Here's why.

Carbon is an amalgamation of a number of features that we, the Carbon Team, enjoy and want to use ourselves. When we feel we have a product that is stable, featureful, and polished to the point we're proud of it, then we release. Not before then. So where are we, right now?

As you can see from the few unofficial builds I've posted, the base OS is pretty stable. There's a number of features, already, that you had in 4.3, and some new ones you didn't. But we're also missing some other features from that ROM, that, we feel are worth waiting for. I'm not going to say what they are, but, they do exist, and are being worked on. I fully admit that we don't write a lot of our own features - we pick the set we want to use, from all the available ROMs who are kind enough to share their source, and we merge it all together, throw a central management system around it (Carbon Fibers), some spit and polish to make it all cohesive, and release what we feel Android should be. Alas, we can only implement the features that are released by their authors, and, not all the features we are expecting (and know are in development) are ready for prime time just yet. So we have the choice of either releasing with out them, or, waiting on them to be complete, knowing there could be some pain in implementing them when they are finally finished. We're choosing to wait this year. We may be the last of the ROMs to actually release anything, because of how we do things, but in the end we're proud of what we do, and try to be respectful of those we accept code from (we're not, for instance, ripping features off from other ROM's Gerrit instances before they release it themselves in a compiled ROM).

So there you have it, in a long-winded nutshell.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] barome:
Can you explain the system for auto-update ? Like Goo.im one ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
It's nothing like the Goo.im one. I wouldn't be surprised if Goo.im goes away in our official release. Of course, you could still install it yourself if you wanted to, but it would no longer be shipped with the ROM itself.

Carbon Delta is a version of OpenDelta, used by OmniROM, that will download a delta file from our server, and patch your existing ROM installer. Let me give you an example. The build that I posted is about 170 megs, give or take. The next build will similarly be about 170 megs. While there are some changes between the two, it's not 170 megs of new code, graphics, libraries, and system files. It's changes to the existing codebase, and, might represent 2 or 3 megs of actual changed data between the two versions. So instead of downloading a whole new build, at 170 megs, it will download the delta between the two - that is, only the differences (basically, what has changed). It will then modify the ROM file already on your SDcard that you used to install, and when it's done, you'll end up with a new ROM file that is identical to the 170 meg sucker you'd have had to download if you used Goo.im or manually went to our mirror.

So once it patches your existing ROM install zip, it'll allow you to press a button to reboot into recovery, flash it for you, and then reboot back into Android.

At the moment, it's pretty basic, but we hope to add additional features to it as it matures and comes into its own. The ability to specify a 2ndary zip to flash afterward, for those who prefer other kernels, is one such feature I hope to bring to it in due time.

If you want additional information of a more technical nature, you can read the documentation on the underlying protocol that we use, xdelta3, over at their site.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dotnetnightmare:
Open delta = Windows Update
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anbinhv:
Thanks to CarbonTeam and [MENTION=1523205]PhaseBurn[/MENTION]! Running a few hours without any issues. Can't wait for the next realese with more features.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] barome:
Yes this bêta is awesome !!! Best ROM ever tested
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DehoXeD:
Thanks for some explaination about what we are all waiting for :).

And thanks to your work to help poeple to wait with your builds.

Send from my OLD cabroned Nexus 4 (4.3)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] houbaba:
Thank for sharing the beta. Love it !!

Julz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kurniawan77:
latest beta Phaseburn-20140114-0956,

Lockscreen notifications - Show always: not working anymore....:(

anyone else facing the same problem?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ofteno:
which feature does the beta have?

or where I can read the change log? :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PhaseBurn:
Stupid phone quoted at first instead of editing my earlier post. Blah. Nothing to see here, move along.