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[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gastonw:
Yeap, that sounds like battery drain.

Some process is keeping you device awake, so it gets hot.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sujeethan:
the one that came out in spain at the end of January
[Sprint LG Optimus G] rsjc741:
Since the point of my last thread was not answered, I thought I'd try again. (And yes, I do realize why.)

So without the passive disappointment, what's the road map in terms of ROMs?

I understand AOSP, and probably AOKP, are coming soon.

Anyone heard anything about MIUI?

Or a Phablet ROM?

Oh, and thread monitor, I'm not mentally ill.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] toprock23:
Once we get a stable AOSP rom, the ports will come out and yes that includes MIUI. And also........
[Sprint LG Optimus G] kc_exactly:
I am not going to flame you.

Listen, this is not an extremely popular device. It is a great device. Just not a very popular one in terms of sales in the US. With that you can go one of three ways. Wish for things that are never to come, switch devices, or learn something.

XDA has great and I mean GREAT resources. You just have to get out of the device forum to find them. Chances are you won't have to spend any money either(if you own a computer). Go check out the developer forums. They are full of tutorials. None of this stuff is rocket science. Most of it is just reading..... and copy and pasting because someone already did it first. If you break it your out 300 bucks tops on Craigslist. We will help you.

In the famous words of a fallen brother:

I'm Gonna Make A Change, For Once In My Life

It's Gonna Feel Real Good, Gonna Make A Difference

Gonna Make It Right . . .

I'm Starting With The Man In the Mirror

I'm Asking Him To Change his ways

And No Message Could Have been and clearer

If You Wanna Make The World a better place

Take A Look At Yourself, And

Then Make A Change
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
Yo I agree. I came from plenty of phones with lots of Roms and just general stuff to flash the only phone I've had that was this bland in dev department was my other LG's the revolution and the spectrum. **** even the vivid had crap development but was a he'll of a lot better than this and that phone was a he'll of a lot more hidden buy the one x than this should be from the s3. **** all I keep reading is how there are so many great devs with this phone but there isint even any good stock moded Roms or more than 1 kernel. I switched from the vivid an amazing phone just because lack of roms. And I might have to again. Its sad that a phone this super can still suck. One thing I have been seriously considering is the lgog to nexus4 hack. And just getting my fix that way I've been hoping to see someone do some fixing to the hack to give us full sd card space and capacitive button fix. And I would have done it already.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G

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**** I just checked the att side and they have way more work for the same dang phone. Even the Canadian edition has more work than us with the sprint. Its sucks for me considering I wanted the att edition. But was able to get the sprint edition for like 200 bucks cheaper than I could find the att. I just use my phone on WiFi so I don't care what service. But now how can I trade this for the att one? I can't that's how lol

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] cthedogg:
Look I come from the GNex which has a bunch of ROMs. I don't complain to much though because I know that they are waiting to get the JB source. I could always switch back to GNex but I don't because I know the devs don't want to work to hard on something when another better thing is coming out soon. And besides they are working on CM9 which is still something. This phone did not have really good sales to be having much support. At least we have it.

Oh and there is someone who did release a JB ROM. It's just really buggy.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] hellot1M:
In the past 2 months we have sold more optimus G's than any other phone in our store. The BOGO is really helping this great phone out.

BTW today I sold 6 optimus G's, 1 galaxy s3 and no other phone. This has been pretty consistent sense the first of the year.

If its been like this for most other stores then its just a matter of time before some kid or experienced developer gives this phone the spotlight it deserves.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Lokifish Marz:
The AT&T OG and Sprint OG are not the same phone. Different radios, partition map to start. The Nexus 4 is also not the same device for the same reasons mentioned. A different partition map alone is enough to brick a device. The same thing applies to the GNex and other phones.

The LGOG software is broken. The source code is a mess. Joker has had to pull a number of fixes from from outside Sprint LGOG channels to fix things. Without a clean, stable and functional base, devs have had to spend more time fixing things than building ROMs. I personally have been building custom ROM's since the Palm T|C and the LGOG is by far the worst device I've ever deved on.

Not enough ROMs you say. Almost every stock based ROM is derivative and can hardly be counted as a true ROM. They are little more than themes and tweaks packaged as ROMs. Keeping that in mind the are only three true ROMs, Stock, AOSP and Hybrid. Everything beyond that is pretty wrapping.

If you consider build.prop tweaks, optimizations, ui changes and apk swaps a ROM then look at my Motorola deblur/debloat. It does all of those things on a dozen or more phones and is nothing more than a script. Calkulin did something similar over in Samsung land.

If you would like, I could very easily push out three or four different "ROMs" a day for whole week and turn this into the copycat nightmare the Evo 4G turned into. The other option is let us get a good stable stock base and AOSP base and let themers worry about what font or battery icon to use. BTW where are the themers, we could really use some.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] hellot1M:
I came from the photon and gnex ). Joker, marz, and shabby are 3 of the best devs I've encountered. With 2 out of 3 working on this device you know eventually we'll get something worth the wait.

I have a question for one of you though. Jellybean won't be out for a few months considering sprints rep for delayed updates could we expect to see aosp for ics and just not worry about jellybean for the moment? That would at least boost the amount of choices we have for now. enough to crave the flashaholics till work is finished with the jellybean based roms

Or was this the complications you were talking about? Even with ics
[Sprint LG Optimus G] sharkboy0901:
Just look at it this way. Dragons are coming. every dev is going to jump start as soon as jelly hits. Right now it's all on LG and Sprint.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Xiutehcuhtli:
I'm content with what we have now. I have helped a few friends find ROMs for their phones, and like Loki pointed out, it can be a nightmare. There is no way to differentiate ROMs on some phones. This is the first phone I have had that Joker, Th3Bill and Loki have dev'd for, but xboxfanj is excellent. AdriVelasquez also strikes me as being a real solid dev for us, although I don't have prior experience with him either.

I guess the point of my post is to point out that things ARE in fact happening. The ROMs we have are great and stable. I have not found a single ROM that I couldn't work with for a week or more. That certainly cannot be said for most ROMs. With the Epic 4G, there were a lot of ROMs, but some that I flashed made my phone completely useless from the onset.

AOSP, AOKP, MIUI, CM and PA I think will all make it to this phone. Realistically, aside from these, I agree with Loki's assessment. There are ROMs only in the sense that somebody changed one thing in the stock experience. Those five are the ones that I am most concerned with because they offer such a unique experience to the user.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jokersax11:
Loki is moving, th3bill is extra busy. Im working 2 jobs plus kids and without my build box ATM. Xbox is making great progress in a way that will help us in the long run. We have another kernel dev that's helping out now. So calm down and let us work
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
I'm plenty calm just a little disappointed. But Im still here I guess I could be a better motivator than just bashing the overall development.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] _Epic:
Explain to me why you are disappointed? If you are so disappointed then where is your custom ROM?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
If I knew how and had the capability I would be working on it. But I am a hardware guy give me a broken phone piece by piece and I'll make it a brand new phone. Its what I'm good at. Software is just super foreign to me. Not everyone Is good at everything.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] toprock23:
I think u should just dump this phone and get urself an S3 if u want roms, seriously. I'm so sick of the complaining! :banghead::banghead::banghead:
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
I'm sick of baby's who can't take some simple complaining. Its not like we're saying **** you all your a waste of a person. Were complaining that something we own and paid good money for is not like we would like it to be or what we were hoping it would be. Some of us have gotten used to the idea of many roms and lots of things happening. Its not fair to yell at us for wondering why it's not the same with this device. There is no need to be a **** and attack people. Were not attacking any developers at best we are attacking the general development on this phone. **** for all you know we could be wishing that more devs had this phone and things like that. Don't just decide we're dicks because we want something. Treat everyone with respect. That goes for devs and users.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] toprock23:
Wow u think ur the only one complaining? Obviously ur too lazy to read whats been going on. And I'm sorry but the price you paid for the phone doesn't come with awesome devs and all u can flash roms. The post u just started is like shoving **** back down our throats.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
I'm not going to get pulled into a argument. Aparently you didn't get the point of my reply. Have a good day.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] benmatlock:
Theen what was the point, you know, besides being Captain Obvious.

Assimilated using the interface that interacts with the advanced internet.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] _Epic:
Jesus, I wish I was a mod for this forum.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] AdriVelazquez:
Before this gets pulled to another direction, like Loki said, this phone has stable ROMs and progress will come.

I don't have have much android development; however, I do java development for work, and develop in C#, asp.net, and SQL for my Masters...but that's a short history since I'm pretty new to the android development.

The last thing you want is for the development section to get cluttered with copy and paste ROMs. It can get frustrating finding a ROM that's only themed, if anything themes are better as mods. (Personal Opinion)

Also, Th3Bill has done an amazing job creating the options chooser for the stock ROM experience.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Dqm56:
you really wanted this to be different than the other troll posts that are complaining? then don't argue with the devs and let them work

just my 2 cents
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
Being a mod doesn't help the situation. It just annoys more ppl when the are being shut up. We have the right to talk. But we as a group should be respectful to everyone. No matter what someone has said or how many times.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] Dqm56:
you are right, you have the right to express your opinion. you have expressed it , so why continue arguing?
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jokersax11:
Something many people Dont understand is the devs are users as well. They have to learn the device and manufacturer. They must find what works and fix/improve. Lg has so many little differences between the versions of lgog's its taking time out of development just to find what works. The mako kernels(n4) doesn't have any of the lgog specific code in it. The Korean doesn't have our/att code in it. So its a big game of mix and match. Personally I'm working on the 3.0 kernel before the 3.4 kernel to get familiar with this device and the differences between it and the mako. Its these type of steps that all the devs are taken to find what works. This device may have a slow start but I promise if anyone knows me and th3bill it won't be slow long
[Sprint LG Optimus G] johnq54:
Whew this all is exhausting to read time and time again. This phone is a mess. LG didn't make it easy on us. But there are plenty of people working on this, and if you really need proof check out the IRC channel. Asking for ETAs and comparing it to old phones that have been in development for years doesn't do any one in this forum any good.

Remember, we're all on the same team, we all want the same thing. So let's work together, give thoughtful input, and enjoy this amazing phone.

Sent from my SPRINT OG!
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
I'm not arguing. If anything I'm defending my own honor.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jokersax11:
You must be new here
[Sprint LG Optimus G] jorgis1:
Just my two cents... Back in my GNex days i tried to compile JB from source to the device through a guide. And mind you it was only to compile something that was already done. Long story short. I failed in the last steps and couldnt figure out what was wrong. It is TIME consuming. With that little experience I kind of understand what the devs go thru. And more so on this device. Like joker says, LG has done a pos job with the code. Its like they just went ahead and released it cuz the hw was ready. I feel everyones pain for not being able to flash something daily, but hey, joker and others are generously asking for our patience. We must oblige and let our devs work. I for one will go back and try to learn as much as I can. Perhaps one day i can be as helpful as our devs. :)
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
I agree with this. I only even posted anything on this topic as a" venting" type thing. Sometimes people get disappointed and would like to get it off there chest. So I chose to do so. I apologize that my simple word could hurt so many peoples fragile ego/feelings. I will just decide that unless I am particularly friends with a person I won't waste my time bothering to say anything.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] smithdl1191:
As a simple non-dev user, to an extent I get what shamrock is saying, but on the other hand, I also understand that with a new device comes new code to learn and experiment with first before pumping out rom after rom.

As much as I would love to see some sweet new roms to mess around with, I am quite content to stick with the stock experience and be patient waiting in anticipation for the ball to start rolling. I'm sure that once people start to figure the device out that we will start getting exciting new and exciting roms. Until then, I believe that patience is the name of the game.

Thanks to all the devs who are working hard to make this phone even better than it is, which is pretty dang great already =]
[Sprint LG Optimus G] theshamrockking:
Oh I understand that it's not a fast thing. All I was doing was just having a way to speak how I was feeling I was never trying to attack anyones feelings or work. I mean even if I was a dev and the work was just getting tiring. I would totally vent about it here if there was a way to do so. People want to be able to speak there mind in reason without being confronted. I love all the work the devs are doing. Just am sitting in anticipation and its starting to get the better of me. You put a kid at Christmas in front of a tree full of gifts for him. And then tell him he can't have any of them for an undetermined amount of time and months go by the kid Is either going to go insane or give up caring. Same with a dog and a piece of treat. And same for us. So I'm waiting patiently just starting to think that this waiting sux.

Sent from my LG-Optimus G
[Sprint LG Optimus G] simpkill:
That's beautiful. MJ always brings tears.
[Sprint LG Optimus G] _Epic:
Oh it will. I promise it will help tremendously.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rault18:
Hey guys,

I got the chance to review this case and made the video as usual. It is very thin, very light, however I am not comfortable leaving the top and bottom exposed.

Here it is! If you have any questions please just let me know

[YOUTUBE]KIRwjBtI7L4[/YOUTUBE]

http://youtu.be/KIRwjBtI7L4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] D4rk50ul:
Just slapped mine on, like the raised corners for face down safety but agree the front of the top and bottom are pretty exposed. Nice fit and what I was looking for though. Nice review :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] tracerit:
whiel i like how slim it is. on mine, even with it face down, it'll wobble and it seems the screen is still touching because it slides soo easily like it does without the case.

the case without the phone doesn't wobble and it doesn't slide easily. maybe i have crooked one? doesn't feel like it though since there's no squeaking with the case on.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] ridearoundsolo:
Just got mine and I'm liking it a lot, all we need is a case exactly like this one but covers the top and bottom as well, but yea this one is very nice
[Nexus 4 Accessories] D4rk50ul:
Odd I put mine face down in the dark and can see light all the way around except the corners. I am fairly positive it's not touching screen. The second case I got isn't as good of a fit though it is loose on the volume rocker side.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] zzoinks:
I've had mine for a week or so.

Pros:

Thin

Light

Cons:

Moves around too much directly over the volume controls. Not enough material there to be stiff enough so it tends to flex in that area.

There's an annoying ridge around the edge closest to the screen. Sort of like a line for the mold used to form the plastic. This makes it feel cheap.

I've got the "Ringke Fusion" case on order and hoping I like that better. If so, this one may be going back.

-Brett.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Khaiyan:
I was just wondering...to address the 'top and bottom bezel uncovered' issue, could we not apply one of those full body shield protectors, i.e those that protect the sides? Or would the case not fit with that on?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rault18:
That'll protect from scratches but not from impact
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Deleted member 3105162:
I have this case and love it. I don't like to put cases on my phones but wanted to protect the glasses back so I got this. Protects the back while barely being noticeable, which is perfect for my tastes.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] irishman103:
Got this case a couple days ago in white. So far so good. Thin and low profile. Dropped the phone yesterday, hit the corner and not a scratch or crack on the phone.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jmbz916:
To those who have this case on, is it a snug fit or kind of lose? I'm asking because I just received the Spigen SGP Slim and it has a lose fit. Like you could shake it softly and feel the phone sliding around..kind of disappointed and if the Ringke Slim is snug, then I'm considering ordering that.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] cisland:
Mine is fit, and I actually have hard time taking it off the phone.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jmbz916:
Man..I knew I should of ordered from Rearth instead since I had the slim case for the Gnex...thanks for the response. Haha
[Nexus 4 Accessories] n1ggyn1ce:
probably the tightest snuggiest case. IT's a b*tch to take off. Can nick the phone w/my fingernail trying to remove the case hence why I've been rocking it naked the past week..
[Nexus 4 Accessories] rault18:
Correct fitment is pretty tight . but I think this also makes it barely noticeable
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jmbz916:
Thanks for the responses...went ahead and ordered me one. That spigen ones crappy IMHO..good thing I have a buddy that's gonna take it off my hands for the amount I got it for
[Nexus 4 Accessories] pedro_segura:
waiting for mine :)
[Nexus 4 Accessories] paul_viado:
Best case I've ever owned. And I hate cases.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] MrBelter:
I got my navy blue Ringke Slim (version 2) this morning and although the fit is superb and getting it back off if a challenge i am a little cheesed off that "soft touch" doesn't equate to grip like it would on a Case Mate Barely There.

Great case but i am tempted to put my 95p S Line jobbie back on.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] MrBelter:
Cheapo case back on and the Ringke Slim sold on, it needs to be more grippy.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] max1001:
Love this case. Got the white one and it looks really nice.

Offers pretty good protection. Drop mine onto concrete floor from 3 FTs and look a few tumble but phone is 100% fine. My heart skipped a beat tho. Lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] choob6634:
I love this case, but there is one con I don't like about it, if you have a back glass protector like I do, the case will leave parallel lines across the back of the phone due to the molding lines inside the case.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dexterboygenius:
Get a Skinome Techskin or dbrand rear skin
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Zorachus:
Mailman just dropped off my Rearth Ringke slim case, in matte black finish. Wow :eek: I LOVE this :D I am anal about thin cases, and matte finish. This case fits the Nexus 4, just perfectly, and looks much better with it on, covering most of the cheesy chrome ring I was not a big fan of.

Barely adds any bulk at all, but still covers the front screen just enough, to lay the phone screen side down on a table, still protecting it. Tight good fit, no creaking or rocking.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] azelaya:
I was just about to write a post about the case since I received it today but i couldnt have said it any better than you just did lol.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Khaiyan:
The Navy colour is awesome, words cannot describe how sophisticated it makes the Nexus 4 look.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] NCtwin:
I agree. I'm definitely glad that I got the Navy one. It's so clean, and I love how dark the blue is.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] azelaya:
Agreed thats the same color i got and i couldnt be happier
[Nexus 4 Accessories] noahk423:
Does anybody know how to take off the case easily and not prying the phone from the grip of endless strength? Haha. I've taken it off twice, but I struggled, there has to be an easy way.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kcbboy:
start with one corner(top or bottom it doesn't matter) and just work at it slowly until it comes off a little bit. Then go to the opposite corner(staying on the same side so if you're on the volume side stay on that side) and slowly peel again. Once you get two corners loosened up you should be able to lift that side of the phone up and then slide the rest out.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] noahk423:
Thanks, I did something similar, just not on the same sides or whatever. I don't see the need to take the case off anytime soon though ha.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] antikryst:
does the case scratch the phone when removing it? this happened to the galaxy nexus if you are not careful.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] noahk423:
It can, if you rip it off. Slowly you might leave near non-visible scuffs. I don't think there's any on mine so far, taken it off once.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] mackster248:
Just take it off carefully and you'll be fine.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Accessories] AlleN7:
Anyone know if having one of those wet apply screen guards on the back along with the ringke slim is bad? Like is it too tight and putting pressure on the phone? I heard of sand sneaking into the case and effing stuff up so I'm being cautious and I might get a TPU one later so I really need back protection.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Elsydeon:
The reason I haven't tried the Ringke Slim myself is because of the reviews mentioning that there's two hard lines on the inside left over from the molding process. I would imagine these would put a serious permanent dent into any wet apply back protector.