yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lolbazor:
What I meant was that it's not included in the gapps. So if you haven't installed it you have to do that manually.

Try the other links then? :P

I always use Goomanager; https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.s0up.goomanager , so I'm not sure about the websites. I think one of the links is to their Goo-page.

Sent from my N4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] paiktaras:
Ιs there any update on when it will be released the first stable version of 4.3;
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bandit97:
Oops xd
[Nexus 4 Android Development] damngood98:
try logging into the play store from a pc...go into settings...it'll show all of your devices. make sure your phone is checked. if that's not it i'm out of ideas other than you've flashed your phone so many times it is now in the 4th dimension and flash-aholics as a whole all need to be careful from here on out :eek:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soumoks:
This is the goo link if it helps somebody :p

http://goo.im/devs/carbon/mako/nightly
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
New build is up, but no changelog. Guess that means there were no changes, just regularly scheduled build?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anshumandash:
Thanks. I am out of ideas too. It doesn't show in settings option of play store. That option shows my other phones. Not the n4. Did you check if you are able to see your phone in play store on pc with carbon running? Just wanted to double check if I am the only one.

I hope it's not sure to crack flashing :confused:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] damngood98:
you've got the special phone, my is showing up fine.

idk....maybe a full wipe and flash again....do another rom in between to see if shows up using something else. good luck
[Nexus 4 Android Development] paulpoco:
There is a change log on goo.im but it doesn't seem to reveal much.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wolsty7:
Better change log:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zcp6iVWVw_7iH-ErnKgkYy3r5QuqV8PHFoQMb8hoBwQ/mobilebasic

I've had no crashes since 29/8

Looking forward to pie
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Zcp6iVWVw_7iH-ErnKgkYy3r5QuqV8PHFoQMb8hoBwQ/edit is even a better one. Not

mobile version ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nachordez:
The answer will always be the same:

When it's ready.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mrmysterious:
Hi guys, could I upgrade from carbon 1.8 to carbon 4.3 nightly without full wipe?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
Your answer should be in the original post. Should wipe when coming from 4.2 to 4.3.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mrmysterious:
I can't find it in the first post. So I must wipe even system? I have been abroad 2 month and I could follow this thread. New 4.3 builds are quite stable? The main features of 4.2.2 are included yet or not? Thank you
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ilamaan:
You will have to flash the 4.3 radio and bootloader. There are guides on that available. You will have to flash bootloader and radio for 4.3 only once. After that you can flash custom firmwares the normal way.

Carbon builds are pretty stable and solid. For the features part, pretty much features are added and more still being added. Not all features of 4.2.2 is yet here. But Halo and most other tweaks are present. PIE is not yet added.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rxmxsh:
This is not true. You have the option to flash the bootloader and radio, if so desired.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
The only exception is if you're using LTE on 4.2.2 with a LTE enabled radio such as. 27/.33 you will have to upgrade to a hybrid radio to continue having LTE with in call audio.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rxmxsh:
So you're saying that if someone is coming from 4.2.2 to 4.3 on Carbon, they HAVE to upgrade their radio and bootloader? What happens if they don't? It was my understanding that it was unnecessary to do so, but recommended.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lolbazor:
Do you even read, bro?

Nexus 4 is not a LTE phone, the "hack" on 4.2.2 is not possible unless you update your radio.

Regular 3g-users doesn't have to upgrade but I don't see why not, kind of stupid not to do it.

Sent from my N4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rxmxsh:
Wow. Do YOU? I never once referenced LTE. I'm aware that you need a hybrid radio for LTE. I was asking the poster why users had to upgrade their radio and bl for 4.3. It was quite civil until you got involved.

edit: and you've reinforced what I was stating before.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anshumandash:
After upgrading radio I had started getting call drops. It seems to be a bug in the New radio if you are using 2g for voice calls. 3g seems to work fine. So I downgraded the radio to .54. It's stable now.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lolbazor:
The user you quoted wrote about LTE........

Sent from my N4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Why are you getting so offended? People on XDA these days. I was referring back to you that you are not 100% TRUE on what you said. Yes a big portion of it is accurate but if someone was on Carbon 1.8 using LTE hacks with a .27 or .33 radio, build prop edit as well as fusion fixes. If they updated to the newer version of Carbon which is 4.3 and continued using the outdated .27 or .33 radio, there is no fusion fix. They won't have incall audio.

So they would need to update their radio to the hybrid radios for continued LTE support on their Nexus 4. I was agreeing with you and adding onto what you said because you forgot the LTE. What if the person asking was using LTE hacks and updated and you were like oh you don't need to upgrade then he comes back asking why he isn't getting any in call audio and then blames it on his kernel or ROM. Hence I said, the only exception. You also have to take into account that people are searching and have the same question, if you just said you didn't need it at all. I'm sure some guy out there will run into that problem so I was just addressing the question more generally.

Calm down.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rxmxsh:
I'm calm. That post was not directed at you. I did not take kindly to the 'do you even read, bro'. Unnecessary, IMO.

Regardless, thanks for clarifying. You are correct. I guess that if someone has gone through the trouble of enabling LTE on their N4, then they should know what needs to be done in order to keep their LTE enabled. I know that's not always the case, and it doesn't hurt that you've further clarified.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lolbazor:
That was a Internet-joke... guess you haven't heard "do you even lift, bro?"

Sorry if you were offended, I was trying to be funny...

Sent from my N4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] rxmxsh:
Well, I apologize for reacting like a ****. Cheers.

edit. did not expect the word **** to go through...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Awwww this is cute! Lets all hug and eat a cup of Ramen.. jk of course.

Changelog for 09/03 is out,

Nightly 9-3

Small changes
[Nexus 4 Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Think someone missed their nap time

Sent from my Nexus 4 using a toboggan.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] llevo3:
http://www.android.com/kitkat/
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
Why do you guys think you can talk to people this way on here? Who are you? This thread has really been turning me off lately with the condescending replies. I know others who feel the same way too.

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
Changelog 9/4

Ha! Caught Tyler in the act of updating it! :p

Nightly 9-4

Bluetooth tile fixed. Thanks to jbird!

Fast charge tile fixed on mako, jf and d2.

Bluetooth tile fixed! Yes!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Cuzz1369:
Get an iPhone then. Don't let the door hit ya...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
BAH! I got excited and its actually tomorrow's nightly, not todays. Will have to wait for tomorrow for the bluetooth tile fix :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
That was a ninja edit!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
What's your problem? Did I do something to you?

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] clsmn:
hi guys.

coming from a 4.2.2 rom, but wanted to try 4.3 now.. what must i do before flashing carbon? install new radio and bootloader? just flashing the zip files in cwm-recovery and directly install the carbon-zip ? and what if i want go back to 4.2.2? is a restore from a cwm backup enough or is the old radio needed?

btw... do carbon need gapps, or are they included?

greetings ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] paulpoco:
Shouldn't you ask this in the General questions & answers forum?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] obarcelo:
Hello,

I currently have a minor annoyance with my phone. Every time I connect/disconnect to a USB or charger a very long annoying ringtone starts up and I've been trying to search for a way to change it. I know some ROMs have a way to do it through the sound options in settings but I can't seem to find it on Carbon. The only way I have found to solve this is to remove the ringtone OGG file it uses, problem is when I update to a new nightly it comes back. Has anyone had this issue or know of a way to solve it? i would greatly appreciate it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
That very same question was just asked and answered within the last few pages.

Wipe everything (except internal memory) when going from 4.2 to 4.3. If you're not using and LTE patch, no need to update the radio and/or bootloader. Just download them to your internal memory, wipe, and flash.

I would use PA's gapps, as they'll save you space in the end. You can find them in PA's thread.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Not necessarily that it'll save space. Yes it goes into the system partition but in exchange the flash able zip for the gapps are larger whereas if you use banks the flash able zip is smaller in exchange you need to download the gapps from the play store.

You're not saving space because you keep the flash able PA gapps on your phone anyway. Plus PA gapps includes a bunch of bloat gapps that most of us don't need. So yeah you'll have to delete them. Bloat apps like books, movies, magazines, google earth. Google+ bloatware. Bloatware is subjective but for me I don't use any of them so it's pointless to have them on my phone.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
Since the system partition is a fixed amount of space, with plenty left over for either gapps, it doesn't really matter that PA's gapps are huge, because it still won't cost you any usable space. Your usable space will not be affected.

I've used banks gapps (on your recommendation) and PA's gapps. I found that I spent a heck of a lot of time downloading the missing google apps that don't come with the very slimmed down banks gapps. And, when I had to download them, they ate into my usable space, whereas by flashing them into the system partition cost me none of my usable space.

As for the few google apps that it includes that I don't use... it's only a matter of a minute to freeze them in TB.

I agree that bloatware sucks. But I actually use 2/3rds of google's apps, so it's no sweat for me.

Edit: In fact, it actually bothers me to have a ton of unused (and unusable) space just sitting around in the system partition. If there were more things I could stick in it I would.

Edit 2: I should've prefaced this whole reply by saying I don't keep a flashable gapps zip on my phone. Well, other than at times like when Carbon went to 4.3, and didn't include a backup script to save one's gapps installation. Once they included a backup script, gapps was removed from my phone. If something ever happens I where I need them, I'll just flash rom (x), boot, transfer, etc. or just adb push them while in recovery.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] UnitedOceanic:
I really can't agree with you more!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] clsmn:
thx for the quick reply.. so flashing new radio and bootloader is not necessary for me to testing carbon 4.3, right? old radio works with 4.2.2 and 4.3 carbon, did i get it? does the new radio and bootloader work with an old 4.2.2 rom?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
It's not necessary. I did, because why not have the latest. Yes, old radio and bootloader work with 4.3 roms, new radio and bootloader work with old roms.

You probably already do, but if not, do yourself a favor and make a nandroid before doing anything to your phone.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] MinatoNamikaze:
what's the last version of carbon rom on android 4.2.2?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] DesertVelo:
Stable version 1.8

http://goo.im/devs/carbon/mako/release

Sent from the singletrack...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] MinatoNamikaze:
are sure that the stable version 1.8 is android 4.2.2?

thanks anyways.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] gharrrrrr:
Yes 1.8 is 4.2.2. It was last stable build before they started 4.3 nightlys

Sent from my Nexus 4 using a toboggan.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cdx47:
What I meant to say was....

LoL I download regularly from Goo and Mattman but I am surprised that I can't find the Mako download on the codefi.re mirror.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] llevo3:
After a few months, I again flashed Carbon and despite such a high level of customization, the ROM is incredibly fast and smooth. I use the default kernel and so far I have not experienced deadlocks. Battery life is also amazing. I think I'll stay for a while with Carbon. Currently running 09/02. Kudos to developers :good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] michelemascia7:
has this rom the option to disable camera sound?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
No but you can manually do it by going into the sounds folder and renaming or deleting the camera flash sounds.

09/04 nightly up any minute now. almost complete

edit: being uploaded to carbon mirror. wait for ~160mb
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
How? When I try to change the name it fails. When I try and delete it says read only file system.

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
mount readwritable (rw). search on how to do that, or buy root explorer and you can mount rw in 1 press

or try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2061692 (unsure if works on 4.3, but probably should)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sam298:
I am not sure if it is correct or not. But what I do is download PA gapps, open the zip and delete large apk's like currents, books, magazines, plus, earth etc. Didnt have any issues. But you have to be careful what you delete and make sure you wont need it later.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
It does work. I personally have a script on my phone that removes Carbon bloatware.

I still find PA gapps to be silly and doesn't save you space anyway. Removing gapps zip from your phone seems pointless when you could just have banks gapps that only sits in 16MB... plus when you wipe your phone, you can just restore your downloaded gapps from the play store and all the settings will be there rather than redoing all the settings for Google Now etc :)

Space is irrelevant for the most of us because we have so much remaining anyways.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Thibaultvw:
I use PA gapps because gapps like youtube arent available here in Belgium. Okay I can easily download the apk but the pa gapps make it easier for all apps. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] michelemascia7:
but in 4.2.2 rom there was this option! or am I wrong?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] knapz:
Yes! It was an option in 4.2.2! And will be added to 4.3 when its added! :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
Unless you keep the gapps zip on your phone, I don't understand how you can keep telling people that it won't save them space to use PA gapps, when it clearly does, as well as not costing them space by downloading all the apps which end up on the data partition. Is this what it's like to be a homer for something... in your case banks gapps?

As for having plenty of space leftover... I guess you don't use your phone like most of the rest of us (which includes a decent amount of music). I teeter around 1.5-2GB free. No way am I keeping the gapps zip on my phone.

But... to each his own... as long as it doesn't spread misinformation to people who don't know any better.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Most people do keep their gapps zip on their phones because they are flashaholics and try out other ROMs. Its kind of silly to take the gapps off your phone randomly. Are you really that reliant on space that you need that extra space? I still have 4GB of internal space on my phone even with 600+ songs on my phone. I'm not space hungry. It doesn't save them space unless you delete the pa gapps, which at that point seems more of an hassle to do by deleting them....... "oh nice! AOKP finally came out on 4.3, let me go flash it......... *goes into recovery* flash flash flash... crap I deleted pa gapps, i have to go put them on my phone again." When you could of just left the gapps on your phone in the first place. Just to then realize the gapps you used is outdated because 1 SINGLE GAPP was updated and he then has to redownload the whole gapps package unless he wants the outdated gapp and then to manually update it from the play store.

In the end, BOTH Gapps uses its own space.

Banks: Smaller zip file, you download the gapps YOU want without having to manually delete the bloatware gapps such as Google+, Magazines, Books, etc.

PA Gapps: includes everything and stores them into separate partition. Saves space SLIGHTLY, but in order to take advantage of it you'd have to delete the gapps. To the point where its not even worth the hassle of doing all of that.

PA Gapps is almost 200MB in size. Banks is only 16MB. Do the math. Not every single gapp in PA gapps is used by every single person. Not to mention, keeping some of those gapps drains your battery with it running in the background and extra google apps to sync unless you manually delete it, unsync it, remove it, etc. Banks is simple.

Another thing to note, when a new update comes out for the apps you can just update them from the play store while maintaining the same gapps that banks provided. Whereas, for PA you'd have to update them but if you want to reflash a new ROM, you'd have to redownload another ~180Mb gapps package to have the new update to Play Store/whatever gapps.

You removing the app doesn't ensure the full removal either since the gapps include libs and all that for that particular app to work.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
I -am- space hungry, and have no problem transferring PA's gapps back to my phone when I want to flash a new ROM. Takes me no more than a minute. Even if I find myself in recovery without having done so already, I can push them over via adb. So for me, it positively saves me space.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Whatever works for you :good: all that saving space is all nonsense. Just because the OP says it saves space doesn't mean you have to believe it.

Try the two set ups and determine them out for yourself. In theory, it shouldn't be saving that much space because deleting the gapps seems pointless.

Now you're just replying just for the heck of it. I see.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
You're forgetting, my friend, that I stated that I had already tried the banks gapps setup... on your recommendation, and it sucked spending the next 30-60 minutes downloading all of the Google apps that were missing. So my recommendation has nothing to do with PA's OP. I don't even like PA. I think you're just being argumentative and recommending something because you want to be correct. in a Brave New World sort of way. Not everyone wants to do things the way you do.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
You shouldn't have to spend 30-60 minutes downloading all the gapps that are missing LOL. What are you even talking about? It takes less than 5minutes to download the gapps that you want from the play store.

I'm not saying that the banks gapps is the best but you're spreading false information that PA gapps save space. Because it doesn't. It goes in the /system/ partition, but the zip file is still on your sdcard. Not everyone deletes the gapps, for the most part a big majority KEEPS the gapps on their phone and not everyone uses every single app on their phone that is included in the PA gapps which are considered bloatware. My recommendation? You were the one asking me in PMs about some random stuff I don't care about.

You aren't even listening to me anyways so why bother trying to explain. So close minded. Back to being ignored :good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
Oh, there's an ignore feature? Perfect. No more listening to an obtuse, egotistical [insert name here]. You act like you KNOW how everyone uses their phone. And then, like a school boy, throw in the fact that I've PM'd you. And? Done with you dude.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] UnitedOceanic:
i have to disagree with you.

with only gmail, calendar, maps and youtube you already use more space in /data than you save with the banks gapps zip file. if you install google now(search) you use way more. Most people that use a custom rom use even more gapps. the informataion you are spreading is wrong.

and last but not least a flashaholic knows about addon.d and he knows that he only has to flash gapps only once even if he changes the rom

end of story:

banks gapps save space in /system

pa gapps save space in /data

[MENTION=4412617]wvcadle[/MENTION] is right, you have to accept that. At the end of the day an average Nexus 4 Custom ROM user will loose more space with banks gapps.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Lownita:
Is carbon as stable as Vanir?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Cuzz1369:
To the people arguing over pa gapps saving space I did the math and it is less than 1.1% of the total capacity of the phone 1.093% to be exact at 175mb for the pa gapps. Seems kinda silly don't it?????? :p;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RealiZms:
Are you kidding me? I tried Vanir and after 5 minutes pitched it in the trash bin. Tons of sh!t is buggy on Vanir. Carbon is much more "stable". Everything just works fine for me. No issues at all. I'm running the latest nightly with Purified kernel. Greatcombo.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Shardzmi:
Does the latest carbon nightly have the latest halo build ( 2.0 ) ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] grzesiek1945:
Yes, latest 2.0 look ;)

Wysyłane z mojego Nexus 4 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Shardzmi:
Thanks! Will probably test it out and see how it fares in 4.3 :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
Thanks man. Always wondered why I couldn't change stuff. Fixed in 5 seconds.

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Hehe. Root Explorer is definitely worth the $4, best file manager. Been using it since the Donut days, very easy to use and simplistic. Did the flashable zip work? ... but you do have a point, they did have that disable camera shutter sound feature in Carbon 4.2.2.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
I just used esfe. It has the r/w mount built in just never noticed it. I didn't flash anything, just renamed the file.

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Oh I thought you flashed the suggested zip file that I linked earlier. Yeah bad part is that you'll have to rename (or delete it) upon every dirty flash.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Krunk83:
Cool

nexus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Don't really see the purpose of replying with one word :confused:

did nothing but help you but alright......
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shiznu:
Don't really see the point of calling him out for it either.:banghead:

Everything Zen
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Archmag3:
what theme is that ??
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dEris:
I use this theme too. It's called Flow Theme.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wvcadle:
9/5 Changelog

Nightly 9-5

Added network speed indicator in statusbar

Fixes to recents ram bar

Move hardware tunables to Carbon Fibers
[Nexus 4 Android Development] anshumandash:
I got it resolved. It was the slim AIO gapps that was causing the problem. I flashed the latest nightly, did a format /system and flashed the goo.im gapps. Now my N4 is showing in play store when I check on my PC browser. :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zephiK:
Nightly 9-5

Added network speed indicator in statusbar

Fixes to recents ram bar

Move hardware tunables to Carbon Fibers