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[Windows 8 General] needspractice:
I absolutely love the new super long battery life of the Atom Z2760. By reading reviews of the Tablets I am finding out that all day battery life is absolutely no problem. Especially with the battery upgrade you can do with Dell on the Latitude 10 optional “60 WHR 4-Cell Battery”. People are getting like days of battery life.

I was really torn between the Microsoft Surface Pro which seems like a beast with all the loves and kisses of an amazing tablet but the battery life is horrid. I am currently going back to college and am looking for a note taking power house that will absolutely last all day, let’s say 8 hours. I know the Microsoft Surface Pro will be fast and the perfect size but will not last all day maybe 4 to 5 hours.

So battery life is my absolutely main objective. Even though I would love to have the Surface I prefer battery life. Other people might only need 4 hours of battery life and the Surface will be fine for them.

So back to my main question about the famous Haswell chip. I really want to pull the trigger on the Dell Latitude 10 because of the upgraded battery but I am reading about the Haswell chip and it seems to be everything tablets are not right now. I know you will always be in a 6 month loop with technology with something always better around the corner but this is something different. They say this is revolutionary and will increase performance and battery life by leaps and bounds. They are building the chip and tablet from the ground up with the Haswell.

What do I do? I mean will the Haswell actually be the amazing new Tablet revolution that everyone is talking about or is it just a bunch of hype? I mean how much more battery life can you pour into a Tablet over the Clovertrial.

I really do not need the performance upgrades of Haswell so much because I will be mainly using the tablet for note taking. I do not care about gaming, but same price and better performace is always nice in case you ever need it.

Please give me your thoughts or similar experiences. Will you be buying a Tablet now or waiting? Do you think it’s worth it to wait or just buy now? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I only want a full blown windows 8 experience as well, not RT, Android, or anything else.

Best,

Needspractice
[Windows 8 General] nuprotocol:
I'm like you and was stuck and didn't know what to do. After researching online it seems Haswell tablets wont be out until the end of this year, but I needed a tablet now. I went with the Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet 2. It's faster than my SurfaceRT was and I absolutely love the digitizer. I use the pen mainly as a mouse when in the full desktop. It makes a huge difference having the pen to use as a mouse. If they refresh the Thinkpad2, I plan to sell my current one to acquire the haswell version. You always have that choice if you don't mind ebay/craigslist.
[Windows 8 General] suzumiyaharuhide:
I absolutely love the new super long battery life of the Atom Z2760. By reading reviews of the Tablets I am finding out that all day battery life is absolutely no problem. Especially with the battery upgrade you can do with Dell on the Latitude 10 optional “60 WHR 4-Cell Battery”. People are getting like days of battery life.

I was really torn between the Microsoft Surface Pro which seems like a beast with all the loves and kisses of an amazing tablet but the battery life is horrid. I am currently going back to college and am looking for a note taking power house that will absolutely last all day, let’s say 8 hours. I know the Microsoft Surface Pro will be fast and the perfect size but will not last all day maybe 4 to 5 hours.

So battery life is my absolutely main objective. Even though I would love to have the Surface I prefer battery life. Other people might only need 4 hours of battery life and the Surface will be fine for them.

So back to my main question about the famous Haswell chip. I really want to pull the trigger on the Dell Latitude 10 because of the upgraded battery but I am reading about the Haswell chip and it seems to be everything tablets are not right now. I know you will always be in a 6 month loop with technology with something always better around the corner but this is something different. They say this is revolutionary and will increase performance and battery life by leaps and bounds. They are building the chip and tablet from the ground up with the Haswell.

What do I do? I mean will the Haswell actually be the amazing new Tablet revolution that everyone is talking about or is it just a bunch of hype? I mean how much more battery life can you pour into a Tablet over the Clovertrial.

I really do not need the performance upgrades of Haswell so much because I will be mainly using the tablet for note taking. I do not care about gaming, but same price and better performace is always nice in case you ever need it.

Please give me your thoughts or similar experiences. Will you be buying a Tablet now or waiting? Do you think it’s worth it to wait or just buy now? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

P.S. I only want a full blown windows 8 experience as well, not RT, Android, or anything else.

Best,

Needspractice

me too.

customise 128GB SSD.

on dual booting 7 and 8:good:

too use separated.
[Windows 8 General] veeman:
I would definitely consider an iPad for educational use. They're excellent for note taking and reading textbooks. No, I'm not kidding.
[Windows 8 General] sgt. meow:
But he wants Win 8.
[Windows 8 General] Censura_Umbra:
Yeah, let's pay more than a Win8 tablet to get a fourth of the usability (and I'm being generous with the iPad's usefulness)

I am in the same boat. I want a windows 8 tablet sooooooo much. I want to trade my laptop which weighs 7lbs for a nice, light tablet and I want to build a cheap pc for home gaming. However I don't want the Atoms. Not enough performance. And I wouldn't mind paying 600-700 bucks for an i3/i5 tablet right now, but I would hate myself if the Haswells came out with almost double the battery life and more performance for the same price.

So I've decided to be patient and work through this school year using my laptop. All the while saving up for my upgrade. Then at the end of next summer the Haswells should be on sale or cheaper. Or if they weren't as much of an improvement as we expected I can get the current tablets for dirt cheap. Next summer the surface pro will probably be around $500 at some places.
[Windows 8 General] veeman:
A fourth of the usability of a Windows RT tablet? Heck no. The iPad has way more stable, useful apps.
[Windows 8 General] SixSixSevenSeven:
shows how much attention you've been paying.

Educational use, the RT has a full blown office suite, printing and usb storage, all useful and unavailable on an iPad. Well, office suites there are some but none even nearly match Microsoft office. Printing on RT is no different from a normal PC, no specialised printers required (my old school would have had to spend £40000 on printers if they were to replace with an iPad compatible model, the RT tablet a classmate bought in worked fine already). Usb storage, hah, you don't even get a usable file system let alone mass storage.

But we aren't using RT. We're talking windows 8, you know, that OS on your laptop or desktop. Intel atom, ivy bridge and haswell tablets as discussed here are all full blown x86 tablets and will run your full PC software which I would love to see you do on your iPad. That and many have active digitiser pens which are even better for nite taking than a capacitive screen which has no way to palm block (and I cannot contort my hand in such a way to write with a stylus on a capacitive screen without wearing gloves as a palm blocker).

So, cheaper and more useful for productivity which seems to be what was desired.
[Windows 8 General] Censura_Umbra:
Hahahaha more useful apps than every single "app" I use on my PC everyday? Like gimp and Photoshop? Sony Vegas? Real games like DmC and Call of Duty? Wow. What are you even doing in this part of the forum?
[Windows 8 General] veeman:
You aren't going to be able to run any of those apps on Windows RT tablet. And if you do go up to the x86 windows 8 tablet, unless you're willing to spend $1000+, you won't get a tablet that runs Photoshop or Call of Duty well.

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1. Apple has a very good Office Suite for iPads

2. Most universities will have printers that are compatible with wireless printing.

3. You seem to be misinformed as you can connect USB mass storage devices to iPads. (Though it does require jailbreak)

4. You said it's cheaper but for a tablet to have all the features you listed, the price point is close to $1000 or more.

5. Many medical fields write their software specifically for iPads. I know the hospital my mom works at does.
[Windows 8 General] veeman:
I actually don't have an iPad. My mom, however does have an iPad that was given to her by her work.

The Asus vivopad does not have a digitizer (which you were saying is a big plus on Win8 tabs) And according to a review I just read, it lags once a few apps are open so I doubt a resource hungry application like Photoshop will even run on it. I believe the comment about gaming and Photoshop were in response to someone else.

But the problem is that the medical companies aren't moving to Android because of security issues, build quality, and reliability.

USB mass storage works fine on the iPad. My mom uses it to type her papers. (A lot of which are well over 130 pages) Also I was not talking about you when I mentioned university. I assumed that the person I originally asked to consider an iPad was moving on to higher education. There are printing apps that allow you to print to almost every printer as well as accessories for USB only printers.
[Windows 8 General] monkeychef:
So going back to the original question and ignoring iPads...

I would say that you should wait for Haswell. It's literally right around the corner and you will get much better performance than Atom currently offers with the same, if not better, battery life. Also keep in mind that Intel just announced that Atom will be released with the newest architecture AFTER Haswell, meaning that the current generation is already very obsolete.
[Windows 8 General] SixSixSevenSeven:
I'm wondering: WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ASKING IN THIS THREAD.
[Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G] motorapido:
I'm considering selling my girlfriend's dead exhibit ii but need some technical advise first. The EMMC chip died, as confirmed by an attempted JTAG repair by Mobiltechvideos. It is dead as a doornail, and Mobiltech suggested that I sell it on ebay. They think it might go for $75 to $100 for parts, which completely astounded me. It is in museum-quality shape, but I figured it would only be worth $5 with a dead EMMC chip. Anyway, I'm afraid that there might be some recoverable data on the phone that would create an identity-theft risk or some financial risk. Am I being overly cautious? I had not wiped the data/ROM/cache before the phone died. Of course I will remove the micro SD card. But will selling it on ebay present some sort of data-loss risk? Please advise. I'm happy to say my exhibit ii is going strong, with slimbean, and she bought another exhibit ii, since they're still so dirt cheap. Nice little phone for the money.
[Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G] smartguy044:
If its dead I'm pretty sure nothing can be recovered from it. As far as getting 100 for it I believe that's gonna be impossible since I paid 80 for mine a few months back and its flawless
[Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G] motorapido:
Thanks. What's a wild guesstimate that it might bring? Wonder if it's even worth selling? If it were an Siii or a really expensive phone, it would be a different story.
[Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G] IRX120:
Well take it apart, and sell the peaces. I tore up a iPod nano and sold the housing and click wheel seperatly for 30$ or so
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Virus1x:
My old device the captivate buttons were bright and all the same brightness my new one everyone is a different brightness and very dim vibrate on touch on my old one worked well you could feel the vibration on the new one it's super light almost unnoticeable

Reason old one is going back. Random sod on all os and wouldn't charge via use port
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] 122ninjas:
All they have are refurbished so you might get a worse one

Sent from my GS4 running CM11 Kandy Kane
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Virus1x:
arn't they required to offer me a device of an equivalent standard as mine was, e.g. everything working properly and correctly to standards?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] dsmboost:
Yes, and they will probably send you another replacement if you complain, but there is no guarantee that you will receive one in perfect condition. You may keep receiving one with some sort of problem. From personal experience, refurbished devices are not always tested to the same standards as a brand new device. If there are small, rather unnoticeable problems to the average user, they will pass.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Virus1x:
Well, I do have a AT&T Replacement Center, Near my home 2 miles away. Curious if I should just sit there and go through them.

I think 4 different strengths captivate lights and 1% vibration on touch intensity with 1/10 chance it triggers a big issue
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] Virus1x:
Took it back went through 7 devices got one that was brand new got sent back because box was damages when att got it
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S.Phrenic:
Sometimes apps crash, no biggy.. but sometimes it just feels strange:

When i select the email app from the statusbar so i can view the app floating, the app crashes. Yet if i open the normal email app from the applist, everything is fine.

Does this mean these are 2 completly different apps? And does anyone know the problem and knows how to fix this?

Regards,

Me
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] free2choose:
Wow man You rocks.... Hope we can get stable soon.... BTW any plan to make another version of CMX as it is full of bug
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Lovetz:
Why version 2.2.0 on screenshots?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] ddikodroid:
Nice, finally Galaxy Ace has 2 custom recovery
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] yash295:
Flashed it. Stuck on teamwin splash screen.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

good to know :) thanks man, i`ll look later into it, im away from home now
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] yash295:
Its fine man.. you are doing so much hard work for ace, least we can do is test things for you. keep it up.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] kazzot17:
same heree
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

So you fixed the mount errors?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

no shaaan it goes more deep into the complete recovery as i thought, now im debugging it with bigbiff from twrp team
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] alex_is_the_1:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Been looking forward to twrp for a while. Thanks for tackling it. :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Yeah. Also Dees is making some rapid changes to the source to introduce new features.

I worked with him to add basic bml support. Now the recovery atleast recognizes the partitions!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] ronedogg:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Man wtf was the point of posting this. It don't work. I get blue screen. Seriously dude u need to let people know it don't work. Not "maybe you land on blue screen". U should change your wording to "will turn phone into blue flashlight"

I'm still working join fixing this.... Using Odin but it don't seem to be working. I have all the correct files for cwm install via Odin. Soi far its been running for 10 min.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
blue screen or twrp screen, no one reported before that you land on a blue screen, twrp screen is still possible because of wrong loaded bml partitions :silly:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] SnowPluralism:
Dont came here acting like this !!

U know that tere's risks is this wip projects ... and this dev is working on a top recovery for an almost ancient ace so bare some respects!

i can see that you're ace had problems but keep calm re-download odin files and just put phone in download mode and flashem well

the only hard brick known to ace i rom manager wich screws the partition's of it! If u can enter download mode you're ace is not bricked! keep trying if u need any help just pm me and i'll be glad to help

take care
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] ronedogg:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

LoL i wasn't being rude if i came across that way. I got cwm back now.

So what was my issue then. How can i use twrp. What else do i have to do. Just flash the zip with cwm, then what?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Any progress or isnt it possible to run twrp 2.4.x on our Aces?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Your source?

I do not respond to tech support via PM
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

locally, added the reboot hack + bml partition layout to preserve a bricl
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

So basically you haven't fixed anything?

I do not respond to tech support via PM
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

i got data partition working ... but still doesnt boot
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

I would like to see your changes. Please upload your staged changes to github..

I do not respond to tech support via PM
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] graineeg:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Any progress?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Mardon:
Ace already have more recovery systems.

-stock recovery

-cwm recovery

-px recovery
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

fixed, will compile next version of twrp for ace tonight
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] kazzot17:
Thanks !

can't wait. thx !
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] n0p3zz:
Saw in gio forums that twrp is in stable stage :P

Cant wait new version :) Will try for sure :D

Keep it up :)
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Niceeeeee :eek: using twrp 2.4 on my nexus 7 , its the best recovery for android :beer:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
confirmed as working and booting by me on my gio xD
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] yash295:
I am ready to test it for ace.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Me too *-* will it be available for the aace tonight?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
it is already uploaded, but goo.im is resolving issues related to the developer index, and my files wont be shown until they fixed it on the server :crying:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] tomaasz:
thanks OldDroid !

Is it ready to daily use with

- wipes

- format to ext4

- install

- reboot to system ?

tomaasz
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
jo
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

What about a temporary mirror? Cant wait :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Mukiai:
+1 :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
There you go ^^
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] fer14:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Great work. Tnx u and u best developer for Galaxy Ace. :thumbup:

See link everyone http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2178540

[App][2.1+][TWRP][2013/03/11]Auto Flasher ROM flash util - 1-click, Cloud Sync!
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] msnnsm:
it worked than i select wipe data factorty reset it stucked. So i pull out battery and tried reopen recovery. Now only blue screens

looking for samsung usb driver need to flash cwm with odin :/
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Mukiai:
after flash works fine. But now I don't manage to reboot my phone... every time : twice teamwin bootlogo then go to recovery....:crying:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] OldDroid:
oh, ok thx for the report, will fix this immidientaly :cyclops:

on gio was already fixed, no problems here, sry for issues -.-

dont own an ace
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Mukiai:
The chance I have is with that twrp reboot I can flash cwm5 and reboot with.

So I tried to wipe all and format all to test a fresh install of twrp

I notice that if i wipe dalvik I've got a success install but if i try something after it's write : e:\invalid argument.

one other is that if i try a factory reset it stuck on factory reset action with progression bar and the only solution for me to go home is a reboot with [power] + [home].

another problem is about clock : i read 8:30 am for a real 11:20 pm after the wipes (even if before wipes the clock was right)

But maybe just me.

I wait for a reboot phone test since 5 mins (no success for moment but i'll wait a little ;) )

----------------------

no success to reboot

-------------------

no success anymore flashing a rom

and i don't know if i'm cursed but loose root access. Sorry but now before more, I return temporarly on cwm reinstall my rom and data ;)

Anyway very good work, hope you'll fix that fastly (but take the time to live also ;) )
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] fer14:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Same with Px recovery when I use px recovery and can't mount system, sd card .... and now l m not flash TWRP . I will flash but not now l' m not home. :confused:
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Paulo Narley:
NEW!!! cooper-TWRP_2.4.3.0.zip

NEW!!! cooper-TWRP_2.4.3.0.zip

Tested and approved.

Thanks OldDroid

-> Sorry for my bad English <-

- >>> If the post was most useful, thank me \ o / <<< -​

:good: :good: :good:

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It's like Mukiai spoke, but in comparison with version 2.4.1, there was a breakthrough!

-> Sorry my bad English <-

- >>> If the post was most helpful, thank me \ o / <<< -
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] fer14:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] n0p3zz:
So can i install it...i don't understand.. does it work? :D
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] fer14:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Not work all in recovery. New edition must be.
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] n0p3zz:
Dat english xD

I asume you wanted to say:"Some things do not work in recovery and it will be fixed in new edition"?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Issues fixed ?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] fer14:
You're funny, just read everything from the beginning would know that not all of the TWRP recovery. xD:p
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] Shaaan:
Re: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

What happened to uploading tthe source?

I do not respond to tech support via PM
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] mattshady:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Did you already fixed latest release?
[Galaxy Ace S5830 Original Android Development] nikwen:
AW: [dev][recovery] twrp 2.4.1.0

Why don't you report the thread? He has had some issues with the sources and credits of other projects, too.