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[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
O. O. OK. Let's get started.

Because you claim that you are not able to call people directly from an email, so for the sake of science, I just did it!

How I did it? Open up an email, touch the avatar to the left of the sender's email address. And no I'm not cheating: the sender does not have a G+ account. Then voila! I get to choose which phone number I want to make the call.

So should I believe in my phone or you?

And for the rest of your post, please take my suggestion, get back to your TW phones because you think it's very good, right? No I'm not making excuses for Nexus.
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
You cant call phone numbers inside the email which is the issue.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
It's funny. On one hand you say N4's LCD is not accurate. On the other hand you say you like Samsung's oversaturated AMOLED.

So please take my advice, go back to your AMOLED and you will be very very happy.

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Ah...for the sake of science I did some test again. I sent an email with a phone number to myself.

And guess what, when I touch the phone number, the dailer opens and with the phone number in it!

MAGIC! I tell ya MAGIC!
[Nexus 4 General] expertzero1:
I out my nexus 4 and note 2 side by side. Nexus 4 was fresh out of the box.

The nexus 4 won ....

Battery life is better than the sgs3. By far. Note 2 doesn't count obv lol
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
Thats not what i am talking about.

If you get an email from someone you dont know such as a business client their signature at the botton contains their mobile number. There is no link to call that number. You have to try and copy and paste and that can be a pain in its self of the info is sandwiched between their name and email address.

Other phones identify possible phone numbers and create hyperlinks.
[Nexus 4 General] tvdang7:
People only get high screen time with Wi-Fi. With 4g the time is cut in half.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Ah experiments for science again, I like it.

As it happens, my boss has her contact info always attached under her name in her email. And guess what, I can touch that number, too! And the dailer shows up!

MAGIC!
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
So why doesnt my nexus identify these in any of my emails then?
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
I don't know. Care to share the email?:angel:
[Nexus 4 General] dweekie:
I believe apple had that issue with the screens as well. I suppose it's hard to believe a manufacturer that something like a discolored screen will spontaneously fix itself, but atleast it's believable now after apple's prior example.
[Nexus 4 General] ghostrid3r:
Some people need to invest more time/resources in doing more research before buying said products. Expecting a $350 to be a $500+ phone is just plain asinine and displays one's inability to have done the proper fact finding before ending up with "buyer's remorse". Few things that have been pointed out for topics like this OP before.

Pure Android UI vs. Manufacture UI = Personal Preference

4.2.1 vs. 4.1 = Like comparing Apples to Oranges debate

Developer Phone vs. Manufactured Phone = If you're an average user buying a dev phone expecting it to work like a Samsung/LG/HTC "out of the box", than you're in for a rude awakening.

IPS/LCD vs. S-OMLED = Really? Did you not realize that LG is using a new touch screen layering process on the N4?

Maybe I'm just not as "expecting" as some users as I only upgrade my phone every 2 generations and not every gen. so my expectations aren't as high, but I will tell you this. When I researched on going from my old Samsung to newer device, I did not use my previous device as a baseline for comparison for the next

IBTL :p
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
oh, I see what you are saying... you can't? must investigate :)
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
None of my emails give me a link to dial any of the phone numbers. Thats mobile and landline.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Yeah that's what I was asking, care to share the email so we can take a look why?
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
it worked for me. I could call a phone number that was listed in an email. both the gmail app and the email app. Are you still referring to something else?

not trying to argue here, I just like to point out when things work/don't work when people say otherwise. thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] mohican22:
after a week of use.

fauxclock tried. screen is really bad.

pictures are very bad.

battery too bad.

sold today.

goodbye Nexus 4.

I breathe
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
Not really a good idea.

I just sent an email from my S3 to my Nexus to both the stock email and gmail client and neither allow me to direct dial the numbers from the email.
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
mine doesn't give a link either (at least not that blue, underlined hyperlink color) but you can still tap the number and it takes you to the dialer. I just tried with my work email signature. no blue hyperlink under the phone number but I tapped it and it took me to dialer.

EDIT: if the number is in the body of the email, then it has the blue underlined hyperlink look.
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
i can tap it 100 times and nothing happens.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Thats not what owners of the htc droid dna/butterfly are saying. Apparently those 1080p screens are really something else. Check out this review from pocketnow.com and the praises of the 1080 p screen. i havent seen one yet in person so ill hold judgment until i do.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsFZGleihXE

skip to the 2:30 mark when he talks about the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
huh, that's weird.
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
maybe its country related
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
All I can hear is how the screen is brighter and better viewing angles compared to AMOLEDs.

Where's the DPI/PPI comparison? It's what I was talking about.
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
maybe. the phone numbers I tested were in a xxx-xxx-xxxx format
[Nexus 4 General] Shoops:
I'm thinking about cancelling my order after I read about all these problems:

Screen washed out

poor quality rear speaker

camera rattle

The more I read and the more reviews I watch the more I want to cancel my order and look for something else.

Lol, maybe I should stop reading so much.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Then let us know what's the format of the phone number in your country. Maybe we can test it out!
[Nexus 4 General] Dameon87:
I personally think people are too used to looking at the oversaturated mess that is the Super AMOLED screen. The Nexus 4's colors are much truer to life. Yes, the AMOLED screens may seem 'prettier,' but in reality it's just oversaturated, and not as sharp. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus, and prior that a Galaxy S and GS2, I can tell you I much prefer the screen on the Nexus 4. It takes some time to grow on you, but once you adjust to not seeing everything 'in a perfect world,' then it's awesome.
[Nexus 4 General] cipsaz:
The N4 is awesome, plain and simple!

I got it yesterday and came from a T-Mobile SGII. I hate carrier's phones for some reason. The pure bean is so awesome, can't even describe. I don't care about the external SD card nor the removable battery. I am not missing the touchwiz, that's for sure.
[Nexus 4 General] jellydroid13:
Yes the screen is washed out compared to my note 2 and the rear speaker is definitely worse but if you're not an audiophile and don't play music out of your phones speaker all the time its not at all an issue, and I am at a loss as to why people are complaining about the camera rattle. The only possible way you can hear it is if you hold the phone up to your ear and shake vigorously and lets face it, if you do that on a daily biases you have issues that you need to get worked out lol. So my advice is go for it! :)
[Nexus 4 General] co.ag.2005:
don't cancel your order. try it for yourself. I don't have any of these issues. I actually prefer the N4 color to my Note 2. It's all about preference. But don't go off these threads on XDA... try it yourself! :)
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
i had a ton of iphones which have far superior screens than any LCD in the Nexus so i know all about LCD.

Id hardly call OLED a mess, the colours are vibrant and vivid. If i wanted to see the bland natural colour of the world id look out the window.

Black is also supposed to be black and LCD cannot produce black and contrast is poor.

I wouldnt mind so much if the LCD was on the quality of apples LCD's but its clearly not.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
Buddy, I know I know!

Go back to your TW phones. OK?
[Nexus 4 General] Dameon87:
To each their own. Anyone who does photography, or anything that generally revolves around getting realistic colors prefers something that is going to match what they are trying to capture, and be able to accurately reproduce this across various devices. The simple, and blunt fact is that AMOLED is oversaturated. "vibrant, and vivid" are completely irrelevant in the context you are using them. Oversaturation of colors is a more accurate term, because "vibrant, and vivid" are subjective terms.
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
Yes but a badly calibrated LED is no good either is it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2039607

Whole thread on nexus 4 colour calibration.
[Nexus 4 General] msmith1991:
You can calibrate your screen to make it more saturated and everything in between. Sometimes I don't like my screen too look so dark and saturated. Sometimes I want a brighter look. I calibrate my screen based on what I want at the current moment
[Nexus 4 General] msmith1991:
If you want your screen more saturated then set your second set of Gamma all the way to zero and that will give you more saturation. I will post a picture.
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
I'm coming from various manufacturers devices never was a Nexus fan, but this device has proved me wrong. Little things like multi tasking work far better than say the sense implementation on my One X. Sure it's missing skinned features but I can live with that. The speed of how things happen on this phone is pleasing and feels light compared to say my previous touchwiz and Sense devices.

The screen and cameras not as good as my One X but again I can live with that.

One good thing is software updates and Nexus devices will pretty much get at least the next two updates quicker and faster than a manufactured device.

For the price point this phone is a steal makes you think twice about paying over the odds for a top notch phone. Like how the Xperia Z is priced £520 currently via Sony for pre order that's half a grand! Most I've spent on a phone is about £490 when I got my Note 2 which I later returned for a refund. And I've been through many phones in my life time.

Nexus 4 is a good phone perhaps I may even skip the new on slaughter of upcoming phones from MWC because of software updates.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
THats all you heard really? Well he didnt go into the specifics about the dpi/ppi but i believe he called it the best display he has ever seen. No need to go into specifics. Im sure the 400+ ppi is a big reason for him to call it the best display.
[Nexus 4 General] msmith1991:
Same here. Ive had MANY phones. This Nexus 4 is by far the most impressive.
[Nexus 4 General] tongjia19:
Complains about not being able to call a number found in email by tapping it. Others confirm it's false, and can be done. Can't provide proof. ---> Lie?

Don't mislead other people unless you can provide evidence.
[Nexus 4 General] nikzDHD:
Well I've loaded an email in Gmail and no you can't click a number and call not tried the email app though but certainly can't in Gmail.

Tried the same thing on my One X again using Gmail and it works on the HOX but only on some numbers.
[Nexus 4 General] the1onewolf:
:crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

He doesn't like the phone and he's returning it. How did this become a 9 page clusterfundle?
[Nexus 4 General] pandazzz319:
I think this argument really depends on personal preference. The color of S3 is way to saturated. Nexus 4 has a truer color compare to real life.
[Nexus 4 General] Censura_Umbra:
None of these things are an issue on my new nexus, so you may just want to order an rma
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
Actually it doesnt

"I’ve mentioned that Google continues to struggle at calibrating their displays. The truth is that everyone except for Apple, HTC, and occasionally Samsung, struggle at calibrating mobile displays. This continues to be the case with the Nexus 4, and the result is that accuracy could be better. I’m convinced the results that we’re getting out of the Nexus 4 basically represent no attempt at calibrating the display, and as a result the numbers suffer."

Professionally Tested by Anandtech.
[Nexus 4 General] irzero:
The formats of the numbers are 07595324511 or land lines 0121 212 5000

None of them work.

there are a few people on here who also cant do it.

If the phone only can detect US numbers its a bit useless as an international device.
[Nexus 4 General] molesarecoming:
Same here. Opened package, i was hyper. Switched it on ... that washed out screen, the farty touch to vibrate, almost wanted to give it back. I calibrated it myself now (via kernel ofc) and it's fixed, the screen is great. Could fix the vibration as well.

What's really strange, i recently downloaded a newer factory image and flashed it. Looked like Google calibrated the kernel, gamma, colors and contrast were perfect.
[Nexus 4 General] GunnerMC:
It works with french numbers, but it's true that it doesn't work with both numbers you gave

Edit: yep, it's definitely not working with UK numbers, weird...

Edit2: there's an issue opened about it since march 2011 http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=15700
[Nexus 4 General] undercover:
What factory image?
[Nexus 4 General] henryr934:
Came from the s3 this is the best phone that I ever had
[Nexus 4 General] persheshhater:
+1
[Nexus 4 General] @127.0.0.1:
Most numbers have to be in international format to dial from a email body..

example..

UK Number:

079xxxxxxxx doesnt get picked up as a telephone number, but +4479xxxxxxxx does and you have the option to dial from number from the email body content.

BTW, ive gone from a S3 to N4.. im more than happy with the N4 but at the same time I could still live with the S3. There is a price gap difference so its like comparing ham/beef burgers that contain horsemeat to a premium burger that is double the cost.

My workflow revolves around making/recieving calls, sending sms/emails and accessing documents on the go via dropbox etc.

Battery life is better on the S3 but in my real world useage I can get through the day equally with both and both would be charged up at night time anyway ready for the following day

As mentioned by previous posters.. its about personal preference and what you do with the phone. My N4 allows me to do everything I did on the S3 but faster, but it involves me to make slight changes to my workflow which is no big deal.

Any multimedia content like youtube, movies, catchup tv, reading and playing games I prefer to do on my N7. If I did this on my N3 or S3 i wouldnt imagine i would be peed of with battery life on both devices equally the same.

It all comes down to personal preference. If a handset doesnt suit you, dont moan, find something that does.
[Nexus 4 General] rest0ck:
I bought this phone because of the nice build quality, stock android and the price.

+ I like the screen ..even though it could be a bit more saturated it looks close to my monitor and that is how I want it to (I used a SGS with overoveroversaturated colors before ;/)

+ Everything is ridiculous smooth

+ The feeling is wonderful

- I find the Buttons a little bit hard to push because they don't really "stand out" that much but I will get used to it

- The Camera isn't really the best especially compared to an SGS3. And the JB Camera App is a bad joke, right? About 5 options compared to ~15 on a SGS3; and much worse pictures :/

- Battery is still better than on my SGS but not really good

- Can't use my headset ..don't know why.

Anyways I like it. Hopefully I will find some solutions for the named problems in the future :)
[Nexus 4 General] DesignGrits:
I have yet to receive my Nexus 4 in the mail, but I know 100% that you can not compare Samsung screens to Nexus devices. Nexus devices are the true colors, Samsung although I love the screens have artificial colors, thats why when you put a white picture on the screen you will see a very clear blue tint. It takes getting used to, but this is the way Android should look like. Same thing can be seen if you look at the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 4 General] Ace42:
I feel that natural or realistic colors at garbage, Id much rather have the "false" colors produced by an oled any day.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
No. There are PLENTY of factors affecting the display quality of a LCD screen.

For example, color reproduction accuracy; or contrast ratio; or max brightness; or viewing angle; or DPI; or resolution, etc...etc..

DPI is just ONE factor. OK?

And also, putting everything in context of my post. Can you see the difference between a 300DPI and a 400DPI screen under normal usage? Have you done any blind AB tests?

Next time try this if you want to see if you can tell different DPI apart. Get a text file, black and white of course, zoom the character very close and look at the edge of the character from the normal distance you'll use your phone.

What you'll see is probably which screen is brighter or more contrasty. But I believe you won't be able to tell which screen has higher DPI.

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isn't the factory images are down? Where did you get a newer factory image?:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] berz:
Everyone whinging about the camera , u guys are terrible .

S3 and ip5 takes pic which are lot more saturated than normal so by default the pics look better .

Nexus takes a lot more natural color dont always leave the settings on auto use day light for most shots and it looks good and the best part is stock editor is amazing so if u want pics to look good use the stock editor it doesn't **** up pic quality and and u can saturate the **** out of the pic's if that's what u like .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUSrkSmBSCI

The video is just an example u don't have to add any filters but just playing around with vibrance saturation and contrast + shadows gives as good as ip5 and s3 .
[Nexus 4 General] molesarecoming:
They are. I had to get it from xda. I was surprised to get a perfectly calibrated display. That made me guess it must have been a newer one but i can't say for sure ofc. Should Google put it up like this again i want to see the faces of those that are taking about "natural colors" :P
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
My original post to your reply " im sure the 400+ ppi is a big reason for him to call it the best display"... Now what part of that didnt you understand? i didnt say dpi/ppi is the only one factor that matter in a display comprende?

No, like i mentioned before, i havent personally seen a 1080 p display so i cant comment on that but according to the pocketnow reviewer and many droid dna users, the screen is really amazing, looks like they can make the difference. My point is the 400 ppi has a big role in making that screen fantastic. Let me repeat it to you, no... that doesnt mean its the only factor. As a user, im interested in the end result, im not a developer, nor a screen pro or anything, i just want it to look great. The DNA apparently takes it to the next level. I hope i made myself clear.
[Nexus 4 General] richteralan:
O. OK Let's begin this.

I originally replied to irzero saying that you won't be able to tell the difference under normal usage conditions. That's in the context of comparing Nexus 4's 318ppi to 400ppi. The key point is "under normal usage conditions."

Then you threw a fit and replied me that "that's not DNA users are saying" and quoted me a video. I watched the video, the first thing came out from the review's mouth regarding the LCD is how bright the screen is, how good the color is, and how good the viewing angle is. I heard NOTHING about "wow the 400ppi is really good."

So where's your "400+ppi is a big reason for the reviewer to call it the best display?" IF it is REALLY a big reason, don't you think the reviewer will yell "WOW THIS IS DA SHIZ IT HAZ THE HIGHEST PPI IN THE INDUSTRY 400PPI!!!11361" the first SECOND he mentioned the display?

Understand this? Good. Let's move on.

With all above in the context, that's why I replied by saying that pixel density is NOT the ONLY factor.

But all of course, if you prefer look at your LCD with a magnifier, which all review sites do, or you just simply like these marketing hype, be my guest.
[Nexus 4 General] krups:
I don't care about screen.

I don't care about camera.

I don't care about battery.

All I care is android... Pure android! It made my life...... Just because it makes me happy. N4 is just the medium of using Android :D

Ps: I'm still awaiting N4.
[Nexus 4 General] threeclaws:
Maybe you got a bad one but my N4 was great out of the box and I bought mine at launch and received it a few days later so in theory mine should be subpar compared to the newer batches. However, it sounds like you just prefer the S3.

Also you pointed to the anandtech review "LG Display unsurprisingly knows how to make LCD displays, and the Nexus 4 display looks subjectively very good." seems to me the reviewer liked the screen.

I'll add that some of your apparent issues (you can calibrate the screen and franco kernel is giving me 2 days of moderate use out of the battery) seem like they could be alleviated by installing a custom rom/kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Your entire argument over the screen accuracy is rubbish.

You cant sit here and say you dislike the nexus 4 colors because they are not calibrated at like Brian from anand said and then praise the cartoon colors of the s3.

You're right about its a preference. You can like the look of those amoled screens all you want. And that is a valid point. No need to try and defend with this washed out not calibrated stuff.

The amoled screens also flat out terrible with darker color gradients.

Here is a video done by Erica with supercurio in it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVqs70N3KeM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Stop with your nonsense. You like the gs3 better. Good that is a valid point. So are the people that can't stand the look of the s3 screen. You fail when you try and bring in the calibration nonsense. The best calibrated LCD in the world will look like crap to you if you love the look the amoled screen on the s3.
[Nexus 4 General] Cile90:
Great phone only thing is the battery seems to go quick...will see if it gets better after few charges.....
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
And to add to other points.

Email number. Tonights battery on cell data only.

Previous usage with over 5 hrs.
[Nexus 4 General] barondebxl:
Let me make this easy for you, i can sense that youre a sensitive one so i wont take too much of your time. Im quoting from the video that i provided you. Now according to you, you cant tell the difference between 318 ppi and 400+ ppi (and technically youre right and he will mention it) in normal conditions ( whatever that means).

"powering on the display reveals the real crown jewel of this handset, the 5 inch 1080 p super lcd 3 panel delivering 440 ppi and some insane viewing angles. (a little fast forward), to our surprise, though science tells us we shoudnt be able to see much difference, the screen just take it to a whole new level" Now translate that the way you want it but two things, first you say he didnt mention the ppi... he did. Now once again like i said before, ppi is a major part of why that screen looks amazing, it isnt the only reason. Secondly, he did say that even though science tells us that you cant make the difference at that much ppi, well you can. enjoy!