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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Mine will be arrived on march 12!! It's there with my friend in ozzy!!

Hehehe :victory:

Couple q's

-micro sim, can i cut it on my own? Or what do you suggest?

-what kernel and custom rom do you suggest?

-before i flash them, can someone please kindly lead me to the rooting and unlocking bootloader link?

Thanks for every answer!!

Regards
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
- you can cut it on your own if you have a microsim cutter.

- i highly recommend you to give PA a try and harsh kernel.

- you can find it easily in sticky thread, but unlocking bootloader and rooting on nexus device is flawless, as easy as typing fastboot oem unlock ;)

Enjoy your new device! Welcome! :beer:
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Thanks! Where can i get micro sim cutter? Can it be found in local electronic and mobile phone center?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Yes, or simply go to your provider's service center and ask them to cut it for you.
[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
small handphone kiosk maybe have it, but u can cut your sim card for free in your provider customer care,

if you have old sim card with big copper plate, it's gonna too big for the cutting process, you need to replace it with the new one, in your provider customer care, for indosat(i use indosat) it's free(the new sim card and the cut process)
[Nexus 4 General] erikwervo:
sorry to bump an old topic back.

why dont ask your friend to cover the orb with bubble wrap then send it to you via USPS, shipping cost quite low but it takes longer than othe tax mob services such as fedex, dhl etc.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yes its only a back skin. Made out of high quality 3M Di-Noc vinyls, which are usually used for automotive decals. It uses a patented adhesive, so it won't get worn overtime.

I actually asked the dbrand rep for a front skin, but they said it's to hard to make perfect front skin with the Di-Noc with the Nexus' tiny side bezels and curved edges. So they scrapped the idea.

The boobs pic does one thing: obat ngantuk.

Hahaha

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel

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Check out JakartaNotebook.com, they sell it for Rp 27,500. I got one and it's amazing for the price. Although, for my Nexus 4, I did cut it my self using a scissor. You just have to be real careful and don't forget which side is which.

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I was afraid the shipping cost would be too expensive. And isn't USPS has awful service?

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Just ordered the black Ti..

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
I just got a dbrand too, thanks to you.

USPS is actually very good. Used them numerous of times. Better than FedEx at least.

Wanted to try out the google bumper style case from amazon, but they won't ship it here.

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Go this thread. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2055297

Xda member Innumerabilis and DownTownJeff (or something, forgot his name) offer to sell the replica for $6 more.

Replica price in Taobao.com is $12, he sells it for $18 shipped.

They also have colored bumpers too. I'm ordering the white and red bumpers from Innumerabilis (to match the white carbon, black titanium and red leather I'm ordering from dbrand), in addition to my current black replica that I also bought from him a while ago.

He is based in Singapore and speaks Chinese, so I feel secure about him ordering the replicas for me from Taobao, which is in Mandarin. Much better than using BuyChina.com service, which is a forwarder for Taobao.

Previously Innumerabilis ordered 50 replicas in bulk from a taobao seller and distributed them to fellow xda members, including me. You can pay him via PayPal.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Alright, thanks for the link. Except that there doesn't seem to be any link there.

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
I don't see any link

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hahaha sorry guys, i intend to go back and get that link, but i fell asleep. Here's the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2055297

Edited my post too and added more information.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
By the way, does the phone come stock with a screen protector on the back side? I thought I saw a layer of clear film on the back.

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[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
Yes it does, with imei sticker, but the stock back protector is really slippery, i have replace it with Xtremeguard, have more grip now

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
so i just unplugged my phone 1 1/2 hour ago and noticed that my batt down to 91%.

anyone using line and encounter this issue?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Were you using the Line app at all during that 1h30m?

And how long was the screen on time?

Do you have Line groups? They tends to use quite a lot of battery if you leave group notifs and vibrate on.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
nope, it was 7am when i unplugged it, line was in the background, but this morning i just checked g+ for less than 3 mins then sleep again. screentime when i checked the batt was about 5 mins. and yea i have my family member group in line, no msg since last night though.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I see. I never tried to benchmark Line battery consumption. I will try to replicate your issue and see whether line is at fault or it's specific to your condition.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
it maybe a random bug, i forced the line app to close, eversince looks fine until now.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Aside from the Line battery issue Kowawa is having, I've been tweaking Juice Defender Ultimate like crazy to try to get my battery to last through a day. Biggest battery hog seems to be from the Screen which can take up a huge portion of the battery consumption. And I'm not even using anywhere close to maximum brightness. Auto screen off is set at 2 minutes, but I always turn the screen off everytime I finished using the phone.

Battery life does suck with this phone. At least it's powerful and everything runs smooth.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
elzafir was right. the line app keep the phone from deep sleep.

i will need to manually kill the app every time, if i want to save the batt.

my tip for you is to have power control widget on one of your homescreen like i do. this way you can switch to 0 brightness when indoor and auto when outdoor.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Strange, i have no issue with line, battery life is great too.

I am on 3g all the time, and sync for google service and whatsapp on. I am using line too.

When i took the screenshot my battery still on 41%

Try uninstall and redownload line from play store. Hope it will solve wakelock issue.
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
maybe you could check this app out, it can greenify(hibernate) your line when not in use and perhaps solve your battery issues

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.oasisfeng.greenify
[Nexus 4 General] casiomax:
Some apps will drain your battery, but battery suppose to drain in time. look at this in a different way, if you lose 10% in 90mins, it _might_ just be like that every 90mins ahead, then you will have 15hrs of battery time, and that is my friend, is not so bad at all. :)

Remember, battery suppose to drain when you use the phone, when you are not using it at all, it will drain anyway.

The screen capture shows what apps takes the most of its juice. I would consider 10 - 15hrs on N4 is good, not to worry at all, because most of us have always find a way to plug the nexus wherever we can, and not to forget and I admit, I always carry a powerbank, just in case the juice on my N4 doesn't lasts from 6am to 6pm.... usually, it lasts.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
There is a state called wakelock mate, when an app prevent the device from deepsleep, and it keeps cpu running when it supposed to be run in deepsleep state, sure it will drain your battery faster, and its not normal. :)

Sure you can find a charger and charge your phone, but when it drains like crazy its something to worried about. :o

Btw you lost 10% in 90mins? :eek: it should be around 0.1-0.3%/hour.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
as what aimcr7 said, i usually only lost 2-3% on full night sleep. 15h battery time on daytime is definitely acceptable, but not if the phone on standby. having 15h standby time for me is lousy. i used to have a battery saver app, it was rather inconvenient as it takes time to reconnect to 3g/wifi. it's probably the settings i didn't know how to change, i should give it another shot soon.
[Nexus 4 General] casiomax:
yep, its the app. now you know. 0.1 - 0.3%/hr means you are not having fun with your nexus...
[Nexus 4 General] blazingwithfire:
aimcr7, are you still using stock ROM and kernel? If not, it's not apple-to-apple comparison with K0WAWA's experience.

As for "Line" app, I have noticed that it was a battery-hungry app back when I was still using Nexus S. Since I didn't find much use of it (hey, I've got gazillion apps and methods for people to be able to contact me, :D) so I decided to uninstall "Line" app. Problem solved.:good:

Sometimes, some apps just stubborn and becoming a battery-hog. It's a trade-off. Do you really need it? Cant you live without it?

But basically, the more apps you install on your device, especially the ones that require to be connected from time to time (social media app, instant messaging app, email-related app, and so on), the more you'll see your battery performance deteriorate. It's just a simple logic, the more you use your phone, either actively or passively (by apps having to connect to their server from time to time) the faster the battery drain will be.

So my advice to K0RAWA, if you don't really, madly need LINE, as if your life depends on it, you could just uninstall it. Problem solved. At least in my case it is. :D
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
lol that 0.1-0.3%/hr is when i'm sleeping.

i myself can live without LINE, it's my family in my hometown that can't (esp my parents). :laugh: they are not tech savvy, so it's better to stick with whatever they already know. for now, it's okay, i'll just manually kill it off until they update the app.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
But...but....LINE is so unyuuuu....

Making girls becek with stickers not available in Indonesia :D

I got 37 sticker sets, all for free :p

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
lol i don't even know what those sticker for. i only use LINE for the group chat and voip calls. btw elzafir, i just notice, your 2nd phone (pic in your avatar) is actually my 1st ever phone. i use blue color skin too. it was an epic phone, i used to pretent it was solid snake's socom...lolll
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Stickers are like emoticons. Best usage scenario is to woo some girls with a cute sticker lol.

You mean the ericsson? That was one damn great phone! You could smack a guy's head open with it. I only moved on to my next one because the battery finally gave up after 3 years. Of course, back then gadget envy was virtually non-existent.

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[Nexus 4 General] blazingwithfire:
I find your comment a bit contradicting. Your parents knows how to use LINE, which is, at least to my opinion, interface-wise more complicated and full of "non-essential" stuff (stickers, who need stickers for IM??:confused:), than any other IM service, like Gtalk, or WhatsApp?? :o

I don't know whether this'll help or not, but have you tried Snapdragon's BatteryGuru app? It's still in beta version. But one of the function is that it can manage your apps behavior, to only use internet whenever you're opening them. So it wont keep on connecting to the server while your device is idle. Well at least, that's the theory. :o

I myself have installed it, and even though I didn't see any significant performance boost out of it, but that's probably because my usage is "light". (FYI, I managed to get at least 18-20hours battery life, with "medium" usage, i.e. checking social media every 2,3 hours, reading/responding to emails (1gmail + 1 yahoo account) & IMs every hour & making/receiving call 3-5 times.)

And since it is produced by Snapdragon, the maker of Nexus 4's SoC processor, I think it would have better performance than other 3rd party Power Manager apps.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
well, they only have 1 chat channel in LINE which is 'Family Group', and we (the children) set it up for them so when they open the app it is straight to that channel. all they have to do is start typing. :D no i didn't know that app, but i'll give it a shot, hopefully better than juice defender thanks for the tip. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Wow wow hold on there..

0.1%-0.3% per hour means:

1%-3% per 10 hours

10%-30% per 100 hours

1000 - 333 hours per charge

Are you sure your phone last for a full month on a single charge?

On the other hand,

10% in 90 mins sound right.

That's 900 mins in a full charge.

Or around 15 hours in a full charge.

Which is roughly what other people are getting with the Nexus 4:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1992627
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
If you let your phone sit there and never turn the screen on you will probably get it, sure it depends on your location, signal strength, and apps running in the background.

I usually test a kernel by using it in day to day use and in the night, before i sleep i always check my battery percentage and when i wake up and want to use my phone i checked the battery stats how much it drain, if my phone deepsleep well it usually lost about 3-8% with flat battery stats.

My setup is HSPA all the time, sync on for google service and whatsapp, line, location service off, no stupid battery saver app, no fb app.

Usually i get 12-18hours battery life with more than 4hours screen on, harsh kernel with PA.

And if you want that 1 month battery life, put your phone on your desk, put it on 2g and kill all background apps.

And you dont count battery usage when your screen on, because people not using the same apps and same settings, too much variables that make difference. :) EDIT: I mean per hour drain, because people here usually count per hour drain when in deepsleep state. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
while i do agree that those numbers are a bit exaggeration (7 days is more believable), however this is deep sleep state we're talking about. if one day i left my phone at home while i was working and find out the battery depleted when i got home, it is worrying.
[Nexus 4 General] adichandra:
indonesian too here! i use paranoid android in my nexus 4 which is great with the phablet UI! browsing is much easier because i can catch more text in the screen.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I guess he mix it up, what i mean is in deepsleep state which is in screen off, he mixed it between screen on and off. :o

Qualcomm is doing a good job compared to TI omap on galaxy nexus, i usually left it overnight and when i wake up it drains 8-15% and its normal for TI.

When i am on Xperia 2011 device, i even can get 1-2% drain overnight. The same story goes for sensation which is using QSD S3.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
yap, 15 hours of daily usage is normal i agree with that.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Well then that's just about the same as what I'm getting.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Battery life is getting better. Got tons of calls yesterday and still had 30% by the time I shut it down at night.

Today the phone has very little use, and I don't doubt that it'll reach 20+ hours..

It seems that:

One, battery does improve after a few recharge cycles.

Two, JuiceDefender does work. I set the screen to go off after 30 seconds of idle time, but the actual phone sleep at 5 minutes of idle time.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
if you just got your nexus 4, yes, give it about a week then the battery will improve significantly. nexus 4 battery is not mature out of the box.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
What's up people? Been super quiet here.

Got the dbrand back skin, not too thrilled with it. I thought the glass back is way better. Too bad I peeled off the stock scratch protector since I was applying the dbrand. Now I can't go back to stock back without fearing it to get scratched.

Also the cheap plastic silicone case I posted earlier turns out to be very nice on long term use. Phone is grippier on my hands, while the bare phone feels very slippery. The thickness also feels better on my large hand. The stock phone is just too thin on my hands. Finally this case lets me be more free with handling the phone. No more babying it.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
not much news. anyways, last weekend i tried to transfer photos using android beam with Samsung s3 and note 2, both didn't work, seems incompatible. anyone manage to try this?
[Nexus 4 General] Fifaisal:
Tried this as well a number of times, no luck. S-beam isn't android beam.

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[Nexus 4 General] michael miq:
if what you mean is using wifi direct, we can't use built in wifi direct capability in N4 to transfer files just like in Samsung devices. I admit that is sucks, don't know why Google didn't implement that features. one thing i like from samsung devices is that capability. You can use third party apps, like wifi shoot that is using wifi direct, but you have to buy in-ap purchases to be able to send files other that media files. but implementation is not as smooth as wifi direct in Samsung devices IMHO.

other option is to use fast file transfers. this is a free app, work nicely but there is possiblites that the receiving device could use internet connection from sender because of the method that being used. just see the walktrough.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Tried beaming with Xperia S with no luck.

Havent tried other methods because regular Bluetooth file transfer works.

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[Nexus 4 General] rreno:
I transferred photos to my sister's Note 2 flawlessly.

But yes, you have to turn the S Beam off first.

Anyone tried SuperBeam?

I call it NFC file transfer app ON STEROID. It uses Wi-Fi, so bigger files are sent smoothly.

Edited: The most recent update even allow non-NFC devices to do the transfer, it will use QR Code to generate the connection between two devices.

Anyway, I just found out we have this thread here in XDA. :D

I just received my official bumper, bought by a friend in the US.

Now, I'm still waiting for the black titanium and black carbon fiber skin from dbrand.

10 days have passed, no skin received.
[Nexus 4 General] Fifaisal:
That sounds really good, thanks for the advice.

Sent from my Nexus 4 [PA 3.1/Franco M1]
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
it's the android beaming. you know, the one that you touch the back of your device to another device's back (is it the same as wifi direct?).

tried that as well, with or without s-beam, it only says 'incoming beam' then after few seconds, 'incomplete beam'.
[Nexus 4 General] rreno:
Did you keep the two devices close to each other during beaming?
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
no, but i don't have to, do i?
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Anyone on faux kernel?

I tried many times, it always underclock to 800/900 on me, no matter how many times i overclock it

anyone???? :(
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
Today I ran the nexus for 13 hours and still have 33% battery left. This has never happened to me before in Jakarta, a place with extremely spotty networks. Anyways I flashed the franco kernel, set CPU to range at 384 -1,026 max, set max temp to 37 degrees c, and wow I can't believe the amazing battery results. I usually go for 9 hours before my battery dies completely.
[Nexus 4 General] rreno:
At my knowledge, you do have to keep the phones close to each other during beaming. Since it utilizes NFC, so one of the conditions is to be NEAR to each other.

Different case if you use other app like SuperBeam, you only have to keep the devices near to generate the first connection, the transfer will be done through WiFi. CMIIW.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
is this how Samsung's s-beam works? my friends, who both own the s3 and note 2, tried beaming each other and they didn't have to keep both devices stick during transfer.
[Nexus 4 General] momobun:
(OOT) Nexus 4 Indonesian Thread

Halooo Indonesiaaa, salam kenal...

Just saw this thread, but this only for indonesian nexus 4 user. Great jobs guys...

Galaxy Nexus | atom 4.2.2
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
LOL no, android and S beam only use nfc to pair the device and transfer the file over bluetooth (android beam) and wifi (Sbeam).

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No you dont need to keep the device in that way.

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Salam kenal brother. :)
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
wait... i didn't turn on my bluetooth during that time. i don't remember they did it as well. maybe this is the thing i'm missing?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
With samsung device or nexus? In samsung they use wifi to transfer the file, if you compare it with android beam, SBeam is so much faster.

You dont need to turn bluetooth or wifi on manually, they turn it on automatically.
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
mas bro mas bro, mind to share your antutu score with ROM and Kernel, also Kernel setting??

i saw someone hit 23000 or more, whilst mine at most only 18000

terima kasih kalo mau respon :D
[Nexus 4 General] rreno:
Lol, thanks for correcting dude.

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
I don't get 23000 but I have great battery life with 20000 score.. I use CM 10.1 nightly and matr1x kernel with GPU OC..

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Sounds great. I actually was getting that sort of a battery life on stock, but after cyanogenmod and Franco now the battery sucks. But I set my cpu pretty high at 1ghz minimum and 1.5 max. When I lower the cpu numbers, things get slow when I'm moving between one apps and the next.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
LOL, Indonesian thread. Never thought there will be a thread like this.

Bought nexus 4 abt 2 weeks ago, at JCC Mega Bazaar :))

Been running SlimBean for 2 weeks, now I'm on PA 3+ and proud of it :D and of course with latest franco kernel.

Hi everyone!

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Mind telling me what's your ROM and your setting? because I hardly get more than 12 hours battery life with 3,5 screen on.

Thank you
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
mas bro, antutu score?

I'm doing some kind of observation for PA+franco user :)

Makase ne
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Still plugged, charging. Only few hours passed since I installed PA, maybe it's better to wait for one battery cycle for the ROM and kernel to settle and then I'll post my antutu score.

Tbh, I don't take benchmark score too seriously, as long as I don't feel any lag or stutter, I am satisfied. And so far my Nexus never disappoint me :)
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
These are my antutu score with same setting. Before reboot and after reboot. My score get higher after reboot, with exactly same setting. That's why I don't trust benchmark.

Kernel setting is default except undervolting to -100 mV
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
So I went back to stock rom and with Franco kernel, battery life is much better than yesterday with the cyanogen mod.

6 hours uptime, 1 hour screen. 80% battery left.

At this rate I can hit 30 hours.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Stock rom is more likely to have a better battery life then custom one bcose of the customization and features in custom rom. I have no experience using stock though, I unlocked and flashed custom rom since the day I bought the device :D