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[Nexus 4 Accessories] ctscloud:
I'm not sure why you think it's ironic. I guess I need to break it down to the finest details for you to understand.

First, I never mentioned that their price was, or is higher than the competition. If anything it's similar to the competition after its so called discounts.

Second point, if we say that the glass is not curved /flat for example, (this is what has been in discussion in the previous pages...) then it would be valid to say that their marked up price is just a marketing strategy. Seems fair to me to say. If it is a marketing strategy, then could I go as far as question the difference in build and design of their product. Why buy their product if other similar products are featuring similar things?

Lastly, yes if the glass is curved, then the tooling alone would make their price before coupon a more reasonable price. So then, why not point out this feature if it is truly curved? If it's really curved, wouldn't you want to promote that as an unique and main difference to get their product above the rest? You even pointed out this for me, only Clarivue knows. They should point this out if it's curved, and since it's not up there. Is there any reason for me to believe it is curved?

Again, not sure where am I being ironic on but I did say if the glass was curved correct? I didn't say the glass WAS/IS curved... This would definitely fall in as me being ironic. But the fact that I said if, changes the meaning. It's pure speculation on my part, and I'm just taking both scenarios into consideration.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Wbroshea:
I must say that at first I did not read their response in the same manner as you. However after my online chat with them, I am starting to come around. Here is my chat transcript.

Alex] Hello, thank you for contacting Clarivue. Welcome to our live-support. This is Alex, how may I help you today?

[Me] Quick question. Is the Nexus 4 tempered glass protector, when it releases, will it be completely flat or is the actual protector curved to cover the curve of the nexus 4. There seems to be some differing opinions out there.

[Me] when i say curve of the nexus 4 I mean the sides

[Alex] There will be some slight curving of the edges to fit the screen.

[Me] So the glass of the protector will be curved? So if I sat the protector on a table with the protector would not lay flat. This would be awesome.

[Me] Sorry that was bad english

[Me] If I lay the protector on a table, the curved edges would cause the protector to not lay flat? So the shape is a very, very subtle upside down u?

[Alex] Yes, they will have a very slight curve as of our current design, though they may be changed closer to the release date.

[Me] Ok. Thank you for the info. Not that it matters but my vote is having the curve if possible. That would be incredible and would make it easily the best product available. Thanks again for your time.

[Alex] You're welcome William and we'll keep your opinion in mind

[Alex] Thank you for choosing Clarivue. Have a great day.

[Me] you too.

I'm not really sure that I adequately described the curved protector, but I did the best I could on such short notice since they were so fast to have someone there chatting with me. I THINK they understood my description so I am starting to agree that their original design is to have a curved piece of glass.

Based on their comment that the curve may change closer to the release date still makes me extremely skeptical that they will actually release it with a curve, but I do feel more comfortable believing the first iteration actually did have a curve. This curve of course could be the reason the first round was deemed poor and we are waiting for the new ones to get in. Just a thought.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DarkShot666:
Just incase anyone was also wondering if the protector would have caused issues with cases, the same rep that replied to above said that it shouldn't.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] diablos991:
I sure hope these come in soon.

The BSE skin I have now is working alright on the rear of my phone, but I sure would like something that doesn't make the phone feel cheap like the plastic screen protectors do.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DarkShot666:
Asked to get an Ultra-Clear protector set in place of the refund, got it yesterday.

Rather pleased with it, and glad that I'll still be getting the HD Glass for a reasonable price.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dan40hands:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a screen protector defeat the purpose of Gorilla Glass?

EDIT: This is disregarding the back glass which is vulnerable of course.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] djdunn:
I think in combination with my official bumper this will look really sharp. I love the look of the back of my N4!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Wbroshea:
From what I have seen and experienced, Gorilla Glass can certainly still be scratched and cracked. My reason for purchasing is that I would rather scratch and/or crack a $30 protector than the actual glass. Then I can sell the phone later as in perfect shape. The difference in price between one with no scratches vs one with scratches alone is usually enough to cover the cost of the screen protector at least in my experience.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] dan40hands:
Yeah I've seen it crack, but I took a box cutter to a Samsung s3 (don't ask why) and although it looked like a scratch, I wiped my finger over it and it disappeared. I'm still considering a screen protector out of fear though haha.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DarkShot666:
It's the whole better to have it and not need it argument.

Why not make the one time payment in the insurance? Because that's essentially what screen protectors and cases are: insurance for our devices.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] jlear3:
Gorilla glass is just harder glass. It won't scratch from metal but will definitely scratch... Most people would rather have scratches on something that's easily replaced ratger than a $400 phone...

Nexus 4

ATT Straight Talk $45/mo

running xylon nightlies 4.2.2 franco r83

^(subject to change often)^
[Nexus 4 Accessories] nivlac978:
Most metal won't scratch it but sand will scratch it. Sand is harder than metal.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] diablos991:
I think the protection is most vital on the back of the phone. That glass seems very soft and prone to damage easily. Especially since I have a lot of tile surfaces in my house that I put my phone on.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] CLTatenza:
Has anyone received their 50 percent refund?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Wbroshea:
I have received mine, although I spoke directly to customer service and they processed it then. I have checked and confirmed that $15 came off of my card.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] diablos991:
Same. I spoke in chat with a rep and got refunded shortly after.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Wbroshea:
Has anyone who preordered heard anything about a new ETA? I didn't expect to have the actual product by now, but I did expect to get at least a new ETA date by now.

I'm sure these things take longer than I imagine, but some info would be nice I guess.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] DesignGrits:
Why would they not have an option for both sides glass?
[Nexus 4 Accessories] PcFish:
Update for those that are still waiting.

Clarivue sent this in an email. Just sharing it because gmail automatically put it in my spambox so I missed it. And you guys may have as well. Doesn't look like it's curved at all. We shall see how it performs. At least the border will stop you from seeing dust on the sides like some other dry protectors.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Wbroshea:
I got this email as well. A little disappointing for me as I was hoping for an all clear protector with a curved edge. Looks identical to the xgear version. I guess no reason to cancel since this one is only 15 after the preorder discount and there is no better option. Hope it will work with the official bumper.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] watso4183:
Has anyone heard anything? It's been a month now...
[Nexus 4 Accessories] PcFish:
I received that email from Clarivue last week. So, nothing new from that image I posted.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] draginslygj:
gorilla glass has 9H ratingq

if you guys don't know that. Gorilla glass has a 9H rating as well. but this does not mean the starch resistant capability is the same. 9H on the glass screen protector is achievable. but it is only what they advertised. also that sapphire screen (that is a thick layer of sapphire) are being used on Leica M 9-P cameras which costs about 10,000 considering the one with little less features and no sapphire still costs 9,000
[Nexus 4 Accessories] watso4183:
Refunded

Just got an email from paypay, my order has been refunded.

I called Clairvue and was told there will be an email going out in a few hours with the specifics of why, but essentially they're cancelling all preorders.

I'm surprised that 1) they didn't send the email BEFORE refunding and 2) that they're canceling the pre-order without giving me the opportunity to make that decision for myself.

I'll be very interested to see the content of this email.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] Makaijin:
Same here. I got a 50% partial refund back in march, and today I was refunded my other 50%. I'm interested in seeing the email too. I'm guessing a few reasons for the refund/cancel;

1. Too many people have outright cancelled their pre-order;

2. Their overheads are too high due to the failed previous batch, so by giving a full refund and forcing to re-order they are essentially pulling out of their own 50% discount obligation;

3. They are still having production problems, so rather than keeping people hanging for even longer, they chose to issue full refunds.

Either way I was looking forward to the screen protector. By giving me a full refund, I'll just take it as a sign to take my cash elsewhere.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] SOLDIER [X]:
I haven't seen anything in my account. I suppose I should contact them directly this weekend. This sucks to hear cause I cancelled my xgear one for this one.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] billbradford:
I got my "other 50%" refund out of the blue via PayPal today as well. No big deal, however, since my XGear glass protector order showed up yesterday. I had three ordered from XGear and two from Clarivue.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] bgriffler:
A Thought

Since the Xgear Fantom 4 is finally available again, I just wanted to point out that *I* prefer it over the elusive Clarivue because it has cut-outs (not clear class) for the proximity sensors. I hear that's kinda important.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] :
in stock now

the screen protector is in stock now, i just got a notification about it. It's $30, as advertised before.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] :
updated info

Link for the lazy: http://www.clarivue.com/lg-google-nexus-4-hd-glass-screen-protector-cover.html

Also the screen protector is flat and can fit most cases.

[Alex] Hello, thank you for contacting Clarivue. Welcome to our live-support. This is Alex, how may I help you today?

[Me] Hi, I wanted to ask about the Nexus 4 XT Glass screen protector

[Me] Is the screen protector flat or curved?

[Alex] It is flat

[Me] Oh okay

[Me] so I can use the OEM Bumper case with it?

[Alex] Yes, it will be compatible with most cases

[Me] great great

[Me] And it's still .3mm and 9H?

[Alex] yes
[Nexus 4 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I just spoke with Alex as well and drilled him with questions lol.

I currently have the iloome and love it, but has a hairline scratch under the screen. I don't notice it unless you view it at an angle, short story, iloome refunded me the cost with no problems. My initial question was if the protector was entirely clear and if there are cut outs for the prox sensors and front camera, and he verified and double checked that there are. So based on that I will give them a try. :) I'll post a mini review on this once I get it!
[Nexus 4 Accessories] freezeburn:
Just saw the pics on their site and since it looks like its bumper/case friendly I'll definitely be getting one, I'm sure it will have reduce touch sensitivity like all the other glass SP we've seen but just as long as it with my Ringe Fusion and I-Blason I'll be happy.
[Nexus 4 Accessories] FallN:
Looking at the photos, it's cut way too short all around for my tastes. So I'm heavily leaning towards the iloome one...

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Nexus 4 Accessories] freezeburn:
You are going to hate it if you use a case or bumper because the case/bumper will push right against the glass edges which sometimes will make the glass pop off. I have the Fantom 4 and took it off because of that reason, the shortness is the way to go.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Arjav23:
can someone provide me with the stock framework-res.apk and twframework-res.apk from xperia tipo
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Hello everyone,

Just figured I'd introduce myself. My names Christian, and I work for Verizon. I've been reading on the forums for a while now but just recently registered. I currently use the DROID DNA rooted on the ViperDNA rom, with an unlimited data plan. I just picked up a seidio active case for it today, and can say it's the best I've seen so far. Other than that, I'm still relatively new to the rooting and rom scene, so it's been a learning experience. By the way, I'm sure I'm not the only vzw employee on here, but I'd be more than happy to help with any questions anyone has related to my job.
[HTC Droid DNA] dsb9938:
Welcome to the jungle. Try not to get eaten.

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[HTC Droid DNA] Painkiller006:
Can i have unlimited data xD this 2GB plan is small lol Welcome to the forums
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Thanks for the welcomes so far. And as for unlimited, I wish it was still that simple. It would be a lot less work on my part finding loopholes to get an upgrade every now and then.
[HTC Droid DNA] Painkiller006:
100+ views and only two people actually replied =/ I was joking man, I know its not that simple. But nonetheless, welcome. The forums seem to be really quiet though..
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
I noticed the same thing. Plenty of views, but everyone is quiet. Regardless, if anyone could use the into, I can't get new people unlimited but I can always assist in helping you keep your unlimited. Feel free to pm me about it.
[HTC Droid DNA] xlxfoxxlx:
Welcome I've been here for like 2 n a half years and still don't have my required amount of post for the dev section so I figured I'd say hi lol and by loopholes I have a unlimited and am due for an upgrade u know of ways I can use the upgrade?

Sent from my HTC6435LVW
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Yeah, that was my main reason for making a new to the forums thread. Needed my 10 posts haha. But the easiest way to keep unlimited without a risk of getting your rep fired goes as follows: Have an old basic phone on hand, and add a 10$ line for it to your account. Use the upgrade from the basic phone to get whichever phone you want and have it activated on the basic phones line. Switch the service back to the basic phone. Now you technically own the new device. From there, just have the new device put on your number with unlimited data.

Sure, it adds 10$ to your bill, but my unlimited is definitely worth 10$ more than a basic 30$ two gig plan. Just make sure all actions are done on the basic line. Any changes like that accidentally made to your unlimited line will result in being dropped to two gigs.
[HTC Droid DNA] xlxfoxxlx:
Ahh yea I've been using my other lines to get new phones n letting them get my old ones lol I'm not losing unlimited :)

Sent from my HTC6435LVW
[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
yeah, we have 3 lines : my unlimited, wifes w/ 2gb tiered, and dummy flip phone acct

i just use the other 2 phones upgrades for phones for me, and when mine comes up i pass the upgrade to the other line to use it

i just swap my sim card in when the phone comes in the mail
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
They're starting to get stricter with the unlimited policies, so I'd start watching more carefully as a heads up. My line's upgrade is coming up soon so I can let you guys know more details, but I almost believe at this point if the upgrade is used on another line, I will still lose unlimited on mine.

On a side note, I'm a huge fan of the rom nit. Viper on my dna is amazing. I'll be posting in the rom thread when I finally have privileges haha.
[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
thanks :)

yeah i expect them to get shady with family plans sooner or later

thankfully i can use my parents upgrades at least, we just give them our older smartphones periodicially
[HTC Droid DNA] xlxfoxxlx:
Thank you Justin I never thought about transfering the upgrade lol I believe a lil dontion is in order for that and for your work on ukb and viperdna when I get paid on friday

Ahh just seen your last post Hollywood n I hope itll still work but I'm liking this DNA a bit much so idk

Sent from my HTC6435LVW
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Yeah, that's what the warning was about. I've did the alternate upgrade method a few times, but the stricter rules may deem it pointless. That's why I was suggesting the extra basic line to have an upgrade without losing unlimited.

Previously, we could put a fake phone on it called a test device, but now they are banning the use of test devices so there needs to be an actual basic phone involved.
[HTC Droid DNA] DbZ Gokuu:
Welcome! I have a question if I may. My upgrade isn't until September. Once this upgrade is available, can I still steal upgrades from other lines on my plan and keep my unlimited? And vice versa I suppose. Can someone else steal my upgrade without risking my unlimited data? Any help is appreciated.
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Stealing the other upgrades on your plan is how you can keep your unlimited. But you have to have the phone activated on the other line when you first buy it. Only then can you pull it off, and use it on your line. As for them stealing your upgrade, it normally works but here lately they're getting stricter so I suggest waiting until I can get you a solid answer. I believe it may elimate your unlimited at this point if the upgrade on your phone number is used. As soon as I figure it out, I'll make sure to let you know.
[HTC Droid DNA] Obie911:
I've just switched to Verizon from att and the LTE on Verizon is slower for some reason. I had the One X at AT&T with dual core! I also wish I had unlimited. I don't get what you're saying about how to get it! :confused:
[HTC Droid DNA] DbZ Gokuu:
Sounds good! Both my parents have upgrades soon on their dumb phones so I hope to be getting one of those
[HTC Droid DNA] nitsuj17:
1) lte speeds are going to be greatly influenced by where you live, and the amount of lte devices that are present in your area

remember, LTE is newer on ATT, and there are far less LTE devices being used on their network....many people still buy unlocked international phones w/ just hdspa+ and use them on att's network....whereas virtually all verizon phones now are sold with lte

for the most part verizon's lte coverage is much more expanded though (by me there is only lte for vzw, not the other carriers yet)

2) the unlimited data tricks we were discussing all pertain to pre existing verizon customers who have/had unlimited plans grandfathered in....theres no real way to get an unlimited plan now on verizon....though occasionally on ebay you ll see people selling a "transfer" of their unlimited line....but proceed w/ caution on that
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
I'm an indirect agent, not a corporate employee but, I can say right now alt upgrades are not causing people to loose unlimited... I just did one yesterday to help keep someone's unlimited data and I can confirm that it stayed.
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Yeah, as nit said there are no more new unlimited plans. I'm just making sure people have the choice to keep their grandfathered plans.

Also, did you use the upgrade from the line with unlimited?
[HTC Droid DNA] Tag798:
Yes, and sent the phone to a line with a basic phone, then switched the new phone back to the line with the unlimited the next day.
[HTC Droid DNA] zabilus:
nob

new to this forum. i'm from indonesia with htc desire hd:D
[HTC Droid DNA] DeL0NGER:
Hello, im wes. im new too. I need 10 posts so I can report some bugs for the rom im using...

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anyway, how do you like your dna? I have mine and im still unsure if i made the right decision
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
Welcome guys. And as for my dna, it is by far my favorite phone on the market at the moment. Ideal size for myself, along with some incredible specs and capabilites. If you decide to root and use a rom, I recommend the ViperDNA rom myself. Gives more customization than I thought could be possible and feels just as stable as stock. Even in stock form though, the dna is tough to beat.
[HTC Droid DNA] Obie911:
How about battery life with viper?
[HTC Droid DNA] HollywoodTate:
I've noticed that it's been better than stock with just viper installed. When I update to the newest viper rom, I'm going to add elkays kernel just to see if I can squeeze more life from my battery. I do fine as is, but I won't complain if it improves haha. I've never had battery life issues though. I'm always near a charger of some sort and I'm a heavy user of my phone, so I feel like ymmv.
[HTC Droid DNA] Jaggar345:
I lost my unlimited data but that's not a big deal to me because I use wifi whenever I can anyways but my mom also upgraded and didn't do this other line stuff and I guess the rep messed up and she kept her unlimited data.
[HTC Droid DNA] byukid:
The DNA is probably what I'm looking to upgrade to in a few months- by that time it'll have dropped in price (hopefully) enough. I have a VZW 4 gig plan, but at the 2 gig price- hopefully that'll stay, too.
[HTC Droid DNA] traveye:
Hey hollywood, what made you go with the DNA over the Note 2? And have you noticed any greater number of return issues with either phone? I'm looking to upgrade for my company phone soon and I'm kinda stuck between the two. Also, I used to work as an Indirect Agent, and I noticed that for some of the people on the really old "Connect" plans (which I think were a holdover from Alltell) that included unlimited data, verizon eventually made it so that new phones were "incompatible" with the old plans that included unlimited data. You said they're starting to be more strict with upgrades, do you think they'll eventually try to pull that move again?
[HTC Droid DNA] cmos8088:
My unlimited expires in may :( and Verizon is charging way to much for there higher data plans I might have to switch back to sprint... I sure hope they bring it back or I'm sure a lot of people will be switching.
[HTC Droid DNA] traveye:
They're not going to bring it back. They make way too much on overages. Especially considering the recent study by Cisco estimating that the average north american will use over 6GB of data per month by 2017, and the fact that they already have most people convinced that shared data is a good thing.
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
Welcome, Christian. Good to have more Verizon cats around!

I'm enjoying the heck out of my DNA. I even kept mine stock up until about 2 weeks ago, because I thought it was great right out of the box.

Then one day I needed to tether and couldn't, due to being on a grandfathered unlimited plan.

Well, right about that time is when I started reading the Dev forums and saw Nit's Viper ROM. I remembered how good Team Venom's Viper for the Rezound was, and I got all excited.

I was just about to sit through the long CID-change process when the new method got released. SWEET!

Once I finally got my unlock code from HTC (man, that site is terrible!), I was rooted and Rommed in no time.

I can't wait to see if this VZW update has a new radio. Reception at work has been my only real complaint.

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] jaysinsalot:
Also semi new to the forums, coming from T-bolt def love this phone. Starting to get flash withdrawals, but only flashed Dsb kernel 3.1.3. so far. Running great battery life is similar to above better than stock.