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[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
I see xD

Personally i prefer using stock, but i think PA also worth to try. Maybe i will be one of your followers after this trial lol

Um btw, you know what app include on google services when checking battery use ?

I hope u know what i mean bcause my english so dammn baaaad :(

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
You mean how to check battery usage of a rom or what? :confused:

Ah.. I get it, you mean Google services in battery statistics, I guess it's apps like maps, and all sync activities.
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Jackpot! You get it :thumbup:

Im gonna turn that things off lol

Um.. Anyone following franco kernel thread ? Most of them got about 16h - 1day battery life using M3. Mine not as much as that with normal use only got 12h maximum. I live in a village which is have weak signal. Sometimes it lost lol. My carrier is 3. Is it affect that much on battery ?

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] arief347:
Yap..lost signal make more battery drain.. I think you should change your provider :)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I live in Jakarta using kartuHalo with Tier 1 data priority.

And I only get around 2h45m of screen on time with around 8-10h standby. Although, I'm quite the heavy user, never without my phone.

Franco is one of the best. He made an improved hotplugging algorithm, etc. In my opinion definitely better than faux kernel, at least in terms of being neat and streamlined. And the color/gamma controls is the best. Once you applied Kel Ghu/Obsanity/Visceral Pscyhe color profiles you would grin everytime you see an N4 with washed-out stock colors.

With stock kernel, I would only get 1h45m SOT with my usage.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] donnietri:
I just want to ask nubiee question,I live in depok but often work in jakarta..what is the best radio version for IM3 provider?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I honestly feel the .54 is best. You could always reflash .48 if you don't like the latest radio.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Oh well. Im gonna think it again since my number soooo historical lol

Um so using pa+fk have more battery life than stock+fk ? Ah so many "racun" to use custrom xD

Btw, u use fku paid vers to control gamma ?

Mine use trickster paid also. Is that enough ?

:thumbup:

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yes using FKU "paid" version. :D

If you know what I mean.

I'm using Kel Ghu's gamma settings, look the best with great blacks and popping colors on my device. But every screen is different.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
maybe you didn't need to throw your old number, just use provider with best coverage signal in your area for your nexus and your old number in other phone (i mean other is stupid phone, which just for phone and sms). I also did this because my old number is historical.

one more advante if you did this, your friend know your old number, and when they try to contact you than you will never in low battery mode, because stupid phone will last one week
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
That's what I do.

Although my second phone is a Lumia, not that stupid, per se, but very limited compared to Android. But still, since I never play around with the Lumia, it last two to three days on charge.

Also, I still use my old number as ID for WhatsApp, Line, etc. on my Nexus 4 (although the SIM card in the N4 is my new number).

That way, I'm always reachable, because my Lumpia will never go out of battery during the day.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Ah i see. Absolutely know what u mean :D

Will try kel ghu's later, now im using bundi's setting. Thanksss

Great. Brb stealing my lil bro's phone lol

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
yes I also register my old number in all application using phone number such as whatsapp, line, viber and other similiar application.. so this make my old number can be reached by any means, modern way (whatsapp etc) or old ways (sms or phone)..
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
I use .54 for now, my carrier is 3, before flashed to .54, I used .48, and lost of signal was intensively occured in some locations. But for IM3 I think you can use both, just try to compare it.

R. Hansen | Nexus 4 | noob
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Hello there~

I saw so many dust around this room, no one here ? :D

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
anyone facing can't make a phone call? it always hangup
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Have you updated your radio?
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
The problem maybe with ur radio or signal

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] donnietri:
What rom and what kernel do you use?
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
use rootbox+franco,
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
It could be just your card? Have you tried swapping sim cards?

Sent from my blazing fast Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] bbaero:
hi, indonesian nexus 4 user too here

after this long, finally i posted things
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
welcome back :D since 2011 yeah?
[Nexus 4 General] LIAM2002:
Hai everyone, I'm in Indonesia to, greating from samarinda..
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
Where's my 4.3? Anyone got theirs? Been waited since yesterday...
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
just flash it by ur self, dont wait the OTA notification
[Nexus 4 General] adichandra:
just flashed this yesterday. battery life improvement is really noticeable, but still can't beat my previous settings which are:

cm 10.1.2 stable, matr1x v.10 kernel.

trickdroids settings:

undervolted 100mv, underclock max cpu to 1.2ghz only.
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
still haven't got the 4.3. currently waiting for my fav custom rom and kernel to merge
[Nexus 4 General] tegezan:
Me too.. Waiting my Fav. Rom to update.. (PA), Kernel, some other Apps like Touch Control, PowerAmp, Games... etc.. etc..
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
Been on JB 4.3 since the 1st day it was launched. Not too bad on battery, but still don't notice any difference of battery performance when you use 3G, compare to 4.2
[Nexus 4 General] bbaero:
yeah, been using 3 devices since then, ahaha

already using 4.3 now, waiting for CM 10.2 to enter its nightly builds

those who can't update to 4.3 via OTA yet, have u tried to force close some google service (i don't remember what exactly its process name)? i got the update immediately right after i force close that mentioned service
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I think mostly because in Indonesia 3G signal coverage is poor. When on wifi, better battery performance is quite noticeable.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
When I was in west surabaya the 3g was faster and more stable than the Wi-Fi
[Nexus 4 General] masaudie:
Greetings,

New to the forum, got Nexus 4 for less than a month now, very glad with my decision to get this phone.

Currently on stock ROM and kernel, JB 4.3, and Capdase black case (I know its bland and boring but its working)

Phone feels greeeeeat (especially processing power, screen size and screen color quality compared to my previous phone, a Steve Jobs (RIP) job)

Few remarks:

1. Noticeably gets hot pretty fast when playing games

2. The speaker is on the back. So when I listens to games while putting it to the desk, it sounded muffled. What in the earth the phone designers have in their mind?

3. (A bit OOT) Official headset (earphone) looks great, any place to buy it, either online or somewhere in Jakarta area?

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Dudes, any suggestion on a good Internet packet with a huge quota and good signal? I am currently using Telkomsel's Flash Ultima 3GB, I like the speed but there's always something behind the deal, I had to have 50 000 Rupiah worth of airtime/"pulsa" to use the other 2GB.
[Nexus 4 General] adichandra:
there is no such thing as a good mobile internet in indonesia.

you either go to xl for speed but less signal, or you go with telkomsel, less speed but good coverage. forget about the others like axis, indosat and three. well depends on your place too though. but so far xl has been the most speediest for me.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
+1 this.

I don't even bother not having packet data network. I use wifi much of the time. When traveling, I use edge connection since poor 3G signal will only drain battery.

With this combination, I easily get 4,5+ hours SOT
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Yeah, internet stinks here. Telkomsel is rather fast and stable but I need more Gigs for downloads. I haven't tried XL yet though, I might consider it since during this holiday I won't be in touch with my Lab's high speed WiFi. :eek:

Yeah, me too, I only turn on WCDMA/HSDPA when I need a really fast connection otherwise it's always on EDGE. I don't have WiFI at home, my Nexus 4 is the only way interneting at home. :(
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
Happy vacation soon, and lots of time to utak-atik your N4... :D
[Nexus 4 General] b00bs:
With HSPA+ my friend has been used indosat IM3 and get around 6MBps download speed. And with axis I'm only get around 1MBps download speed.

How about XL? Is that fast?
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
Xl hotroad 3g+
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
yeah one of my friend is using xl for his modem, and he said in his home the download speed is 700 kB/s which is fast for me.. but outside his home the speed is much slower.. one info for you when you want to use xl, when in your phone you get the message "Hotroad 3G+" that means in that area xl speed is very fast like in my friends home.. but when you didn't get that message, don't expect it will be fast..

myself is use telkomsel, because I very need good stable connection, and speed of telkomsel doesn't bad, it just not fast as xl when Hotroad 3G+.. I use halofit 125 and it's enough for me

I just want to say don't believe speedtest or something like that, what they measure is the highest download speed that your provider can perform, but in actual it won't that high.. just download any file from mediafire and see your average speed, that is your provider real speed..
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Moto X is out!

I know N4 isn't even a year since it's launched but, you know, it's the real Google Phone! It is very tempting!

What do you think guys?
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
Will try Moto X soon, just trying not buying lol. So N4 is not a real Google Phone? How can u say a cruel words like that?:confused:
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
what the spec for moto X?
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I am not saying Nexus is not real Google phone.

It's just because Motorola is now owned by Google and it means Google built its hardware as well.
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
I agree with you, but after reading and searching information about Moto X, it seems that Google set it for mediocre phone competition, not like Nexus 4. Anyway, still it will be a huge sale in Asia, I don't know about Indonesia, maybe Google need to consider market for Moto X in Indonesia, since it's not so pricey smartphone. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Hmm.. I'll give XL a try once my internet subscription expires. And I agree, Telkomsel, though expensive, is very stable.

Moto X has less spec compared to Nexus 4 since they are focusing more on experience rather than the spec race. But I wouldn't buy this since we're just months away from the Nexus 5 release and also upcoming beasts such as Sony Honami, Optimus G2, and Galaxy Note 3. Also, I don't think there are any Motorola Service Center around here.
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
I think moto x is for mid range class, not high end.. as you can see in internet, moto x only have 2 core, so basically nexus is better than moto x..

and one more thing, based on information from gsmarena.com when new android come out, the first one who will get update is playstore phones, such as nexus devices and google play edition phones.. so I think nexus is still the real google phone
[Nexus 4 General] sickest:
hey guys, just bought N4 for 3 days now, overall pretty fast i got here. But the battery got drained so fast :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Have u updated to 4.3?
[Nexus 4 General] sickest:
yes, i already updated it into 4.3 , have you guys update?
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
I did! It's faster and smoother on my edge, yet with many limitation as i haven't rooted mine
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
About the battery drain, if your 3G signal is bad, maybe that's the cause. I only use 2G and WiFi, with that setting I have pretty good battery life.

If you want more juice you might wanna try custom kernel. I am using Cataclysm ROM with franco kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] sickest:
yes, i haven't rooted mine too. LOL. Now i just wanna have lovely time with it <- i always did this with all my new stuffs -__- :angel:

use 2G and wifi only? but, i like fast connections :( , hey can i stabilize my 3G signal? i remember did it on my galaxy 5 :eek:
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
Updated to stock jwr66v yesterday with latest supersu and I have no reason yet to flash any custom kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
If you like that jwr build feel and desire for customization, try cataclysm!

In fact i feel it a bit smoother, too ;)
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
What do you mean with stabilize? If ypu mean recieve only 3G signal, use custom ROM like CM and use network toggle to switch to 3G only.

Or dial *#*#4636#*#* under phone information select preferred network and select "wcdma only".

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Google not involved too much in hardware department, and they already stated that they will treat Motorola like Samsung, LG and it's competitors, because somehow it worries other manufactures when Google bought Motorola that Google will build it's own devices.

Latest news even says that Google treat Motorola too much like other manufactures even worse, look at Android 4.2.2 instead 4.3 while they are managed to include it in New Nexus 7, and no subsidy from Google with that 575 USD price point off-contract.

And Moto X is not fighting for middle class, its price point places it in the high-end smartphone to competing with S4, HTC One or for in the same price is Oppo Find 5 which is 1080p, quadcore smartphone.
[Nexus 4 General] sickest:
oke i already tried that, lol its 3G but when i was in town, now i'm solo though, in the middle of nowhere, next to the mountains so its kinda hard get the 3G signals here :(
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
LOL it's your network I guess, so good luck with 2G :p
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
Ok guys, something strange happened these last few days. I noticed that my google services ate up 450 mb of data usage in the last 3 days. That's crazy!

Having read through several threads in xda, I concluded this is due to my Nexus kept trying to download the latest 4.3 repeatedly yet failed to do that since I'm using custom rom.

Anyone else with this problem? Is there any other solution other than to delete my google accounts only to re-add them later on? With current fiasco of JW vs JS build, I decided to keep using 4.2.2 with my custom rom for a while, at least until franco release its JS-compatible kernel.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
I think when your not in stock condition Google won't try that OTA stuff, but perhaps i'm wrong. Why you don't try using JW + FK for awhile.

Oh and great to found this thread. Rock on!!
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
I thought so, yet some people found corrupted flashable zip file in their devices which indicate the device did try to download the OTA but failed. Strangely, it seems to be not really rom related since it occurred in several custom roms.

JW + FK would be my last resort since I hate to unroot and reroot my Nexus and lose some of the features that I love from my custom rom.

So many headaches from a single mistake by JBQ and his team.. Why didn't Google step up and ensure that both OTA and AOSP are the same files/images is really beyond me... LoL
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
You might try Cataclysm ROM, it's JWR based hence compatible with FK.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Yup, thanks to JBQ for that, lol..
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
There is an unofficial fk for JSS build on Android development sub-forum. I am using it with CM10.2 with no problem, it's compatible with fk.u as well.
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Im using this rom right now. Will test smart3g feature, lets see how far it can stay awake lol

Um for moslems here, just 2days more ! :)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
There is no way Moto X is positioned againts the flagship giants.

Galaxy S4, iPhone 5, Xperia Z, Optimus G Pro, HTC One and the upcoming Note 3 all priced in the $650-$750 price bracket, i.e. the high end.

Moto X starts at $575 for 16GB and $629 for 32GB, so it is priced like the second lines or last year's flagships, i.e. the Nexus 4, iPhone 4S, Galaxy Mega 6.3, Xperia ZL, Find 5, One X+, Galaxy S3 and the Optimus G, now that G Pro is out.

If the Moto X was a Nexus, it will surely be sold at $299 and $349 price point.

Even its specs screams "second best": 2200mAh battery as opposed to 2,500mAh in other flagships, 720p screens as opposed to Full HD, 10mpx camera as opposed to 13mpx, dual-core Snapdragon S4 Pro as opposed 600/800 and 4.7" screen as opposed to 5.0".

It is for people who wants the latest tech but don't want to pay the premium price tag associated with the flagships.

Think of it like the Intel Core i5-4670K to their flagship i7-4770K. Or the GTX 770 to Nvidia's GTX 780. Which is by no means mid-range, but certainly not the best of the best.
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Hey, anyone knows how to flash cwm from phone? Because i don't have any pc nearby right now
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
If you're still on stock recovery then you cannot. If you're on twrp then you can search for cwm flashable zip.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
CMIIW, but ain't GooManager has an OpenRecoveryScript (TWRP) installer and ROM Manager Pro has a CWM installer? You need to be rooted and bootloader unlocked though.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Moto X price off contract is $575, it's not too far away from competitor's flagship price point.

The specs is more like iphone 5 specs, it is smooth, and it just works.

People expect to see $300 price for a reason, I expect to see as much as $499 but its lil bit surprise they put it on $199 on contracts. The midrange specs and the build quality, that what makes me think $575 is too much. Just my honest opinion. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
You can't compare Android to iPhone specs, it apples vs oranges.

Yes I agree, people expected to see a $300 price tag on the Moto X, which I think is outrageous expectation. The only comparable phone in that price bracket is the Nexus 4, which is heavily subsidized by Google. Moto X enjoys no such subsidy. The bill of material probably the same as any other dual-core Krait phone, around the $200 mark. So I see no reason Motorola should sell it for $300, not even $400. I think $499 is the cheapest they could go and it would be perfect for the market, but we all know they didn't went down that road. In the US, nobody is buying off-contract anyway. At least not before the Nexus 4, which only sold one million units, if I'm not mistaken.

Yes, it could be a little cheaper, mainly to gain traction for the Motorola brand in the market, but it is by no means too expensive. It just that Google disrupted the playing field by selling the Nexus 4 so cheap.

Not counting the Oppo Find 5, which is a Chinese phone, all the other comparable phone falls within the same sub-$600 price bracket: the S3, Galaxy Mega 6.3, One X+, Optimus G, etc.

For a $300 phone, let's just hope Google announce the Nexus 5 soon with a 32GB option. I'll find someone to hand carry it from the US and I'll be a happy man in 2014. :)
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
And today G2 will be announced by LG, from the leaked images, it's a thing of beaut. With a monstrous spec also.

Never had LG OEM device before, but this one is very tempting. I hope the upcoming n5 will be built based on the G2.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I hope Nexus 5 has 32GB option. I am tired having to delete my files because I am worrying about my storage space. :(

Anyway, anyone tried latest CM Focal apps? I am using it and quite impressed with it's output, the image is clear and noise is minimal, even on low light which is usually become very noisy with stock camera. Try using the image improvement feature, it takes awhile to render a picture but its worth it.

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+1 I hope so, I like N4 design very much, not even feel tempted with other phone. And G2 looks even better in my eyes, the bezel is very minimal which is good, but volume rocker button placement is lil bit awkward, needs sometime to get used to it. And is its power button placed between them, i mean volume rocker?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
The thing is Optimus UX is ugly as fudge. They managed to make something that abysmal, it must be an achievement. Don't believe me? Just look at their camera and dialer. Also, they failed to include 2013 killer feature: waterproof. I see no incentive to choose the G2 over the S4, besides specs and personal preference.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I personally won't be bothered with those skin (touchwiz, ux, sense, etc). If I buy one, I'd definitely flash CM or any ported AOSP ROM. I hate those skins and their bloatware, they're ugly.

The thing is Samsung has become a mainstream now, I hate it lol! I miss the day when I had my Galaxy Spica (my first Android phone) my friends thought it was an IPhone. And since I had a bad experience with HTC (HTC One is a great phone, though), I think I'll stick with LG whether it's G2 or N5.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
But at least they innovate for good, look at double knock t

o unlock and lock the phone, it doesnt sound as gimmick as S4 air gesture , wut?!
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hahahaha +1 at this. I hope LG make it easy to unlock the bootloader, though. I do love G Pro's front face, the back so-so. The G2 just look impressive! Wow, LG...that's two phones in a row you did right...*slow clap*. But the volume rocker on the back could be make or break for LG. It will be useful for changing volume when the phone is in our pants pocket, but could be a problem when laying the phone on the table. We will have to see the reviews for how it performs.

Now the problem is how LG gonna translate this design language to their cheaper/budget phones, much like what Samsung did with their Galaxy line. Having a recognizable design will help LG gain consumer awareness. Right now, LG line up is a ****ing mess.

But I have to admit, the S4 is one attractive phone, specs-wise and design wise. I finally love AMOLED after trying the S4 for a few minutes. The deep blacks make the Nexus 4 looks like washed up jeans.

The LG Optimus G2, a one handsome phone.

Air gesture is so useless.

But multiwindow, smart stay (when it works) , IR blaster, Samsung calendar (Google Calendar app is too barebone with stupid behaviour, frustating to use) are features I envy. But double knock to unlock sounds genius, though!

The problem with LG is they don't innovate enough. They always playing catch up with Samsung. When they did try to innovate, well, we got the Vu *shudders*. Tablet space is also important, it is one area where people don't care about brand recognition, specially in the sub $300 price bracket. But I don't even remember the last LG tablet they put out.

Granted, LG's capital is not as much as Samsung's, they couldn't afford to gamble on the throw-everything-at-the-wall, see-what-will-stick-game. But then again, we got the vucking Vu. :banghead:
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
personally i also very hate touchwiz, it makes my phone become ugly.. but my favourite skin is sense..

if only htc make second best phones with great spec, i absolutely but that phone. the problem with htc is when they make not flagship phone, the specification will be very bad compared to price. this is htc flaw i think