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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
lol this theme is very simple, nothing fancy, just change the grid to 5x7 (using apex launcher), pick a wallpaper and change the icons using buttonized icon pack. the difficulty was only classifying the apps.
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
Just switched to motley's recently, and this is probably my best battery life by far. Mostly on wifi tho...

And here's my home screen..
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
What ROM are you on?

Damn 5h on Wi-Fi is good man.

Neat home screen!

I'm just curious, how long do you guys think the iPhone 5's screen on time?

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[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
Oh, I'm on Carbonrom

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37688173
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I dont know but my friend said his battery life is good enough, he always charge it overnight and he can use it until the end of the day, typical user tho.

He said its far better than his old bb torch and iphone 3GS
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Typical user usually only use approx. 2h30m of SOT, based on a very technically challenged friend who rocks an S3.

I'm far from a typical user though. I would use about 2 hours of screen time in only 4 hours of standby on a regular work day.

Is there a way to easily measure SOT on the iPhone?

I hate the fact that people always make fun of my Nexus because it's already out of juice at 1 PM in the afternoon.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I guess he dont use it too often. I remember there is an app that can monitor your battery usage, forgot its name tho :D
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
centred numinior

i was an iphone user, though i never buy i5 (was using i4s), and i can tell you that usage is more/less the same. my tipical daily usage of i4s is whatsapp, some email, 9gag. smurf village/trade city (i played some games, not much you can do with iphone, but these mostly just harvest and replant). usually i reached home with 15% of battery.

wait...are you really concern of iphone users make fun of nexus 4? lol.. you can give them tons of things iphone can't do: live wallpaper, media share among apps, wireless charging, etc, etc, etc for those gaming maniacs, usually i just show them epsxe running ff7 or xenogear and see their face change. :laugh:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Wow, thanks for the reply. I'm glad the iPhone fairs more or less the same.

Haha, I'm not concerned. I know nexus is much better. It just that iPhone users are so smug and proud that they have an apple product. Any sign of weakness from the Android side would make them even more annoying.

Nexus vs iPhone 4S, our as i like to call it, the Hobbit-phone, is a no contest. The only thing they (think they) have against the Nexus is battery life. But based on your report, they don't even have that any more.

Vs iPhone 5, I think it's a tie. The 5 has good battery life, better camera, cool apps, and great design. But we have large screen, top end specs, wireless charging, flexibility, and exclusivity. I mean, 1 million Nexus 4 vs 40 million iPhone 5? And in Indonesia, it's not a cheap phone. But i do love their aluminum body, though. Feels really premium.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
My friend who have iPhone still impressed with how beautiful my N4 tho :p

Actually imo this phone is most beautiful android ive ever seen (HTC One havent released yet :p).

I love how iphone 5 feels but people here always using that ugly silicon case, its not only protected their iPhone but also make it looks ugly.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
+1

Yes, i hate those silicon cases.

That's why I use the LG Bumper.

I ordered a dbrand vinyl black leather skin for $10 shipped. But still debating whether to use the skin or an XtremeGuard protector. But I think I'm going with the leather skin, just to make my Nexus stands out from other people's. And to hide that LG logo. It's not that I don't like LG, but I hate it when people think my phone is inferior because it's made by LG. People are stupid. And you can't cure stupid. From now on I'll refer my phone as the Nexus 4, made by Google.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
LOL i am using nilikin case right now, have a plan to buy LG bumper tho, maybe next month.

I use cheap matte protector for back glass. :p

Yes people are stupid, but with that big Nexus branding there, they will think this phone made by nexus lol

two of my friend already fooled by that big nexus :p
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
because it's alumunium, it get scratched easily. no point having beautiful back if you can't show it. and by design, i5 is pretty much the same as i4, just taller. if you like bumpers, you can look for lg bumper imitation, it's a lot cheaper and quality is almost the same. only different i notice is probably the chrome side is darker than the original bumper. other option is poetic bumper, i think it's a silicon bumper, but i want it cause it's not as thick as lg bumpers (ori or fake) that i'm using right now. if you come across a store in jakarta that sells poetic, please let me know, hopefully cheaper than i import it myself from US.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Yes but he said he hate that TPU case, he ordered protector that protect all over the body.

I dont know, will let you know if i found one.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I already have the LG Bumper replica, cost me $18 and 11 days to ship from Singapore. Looks real nice and a bargain for the price. Only negative is mine a tiny bit too big, I'm talking about fractions of milimeters here. But just big enough for the top and bottom part to have that "squishy" effect when pressed. The cost to get the original from US Play Store would easily exceeds $35.

No, the Poetic Borderline bumper is not silicon. It's made from cheap hard-plastic. It's a two part bumper, both are hard plastic, and will start falling off in a month or two. There's a lot of reviews in the product's thread in xda.

I'm actually already bored with the Nexus 4 glass back pattern. :D

I'm talking about the iPhone 5 "feel". When you hold it, it feels firm and solid. Not a hint of plastic except the home button. Although, you're right, the anodized aluminum will scratch like crazy.

Yes, I hate TPU cases. But I bought one any way as it was only Rp 30 ribu, when I was waiting for my replica bumper to arrive.

Another reason for me to buy the dbrand skin, because it use 3M patented adhesive. It's stronger than dry application screen protector, which use static to stick to the phone. Wet application is better, but soap water's cohesion is much less compared to adhesives. It would help in retaining the glass's pressure, so it won't crack as easily.

Just a word if warning to people who like their Nexus naked:

Glass is hard, you won't get scratches as easily as anodized aluminum, but it is terribly brittle. If you punch a mirror, it won't necessarily break. But if you use a sharp object and put the same amount of force, it would shatter. Now imagine a naked back Nexus in your jeans' pocket and you bump your thigh into a table's edge. Using a case/skin/thick screen protector (wet application is usually thicker) will help a lot in that scenario.

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Hope I'll join you soon guys!
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hey, welcome to the thread, bro.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
You guys who use bumper on your n4, how it feels guys? I am using hardcase now, but looking forward to buy a bumper.

Is it make this device a lot thicker?

Actually this hardcase is feels ok for me, it doesnt make my n4 thicker, feels nice in hand actually. But it doesnt cover my screen if i accidentally dropped my phone. :(

I want to buy the official LG bumper it costs about 300.000 shipping included.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
add to that, that the lg bumper (original or replica) doesn't cover the chrome bezel completely on the top and bottom. yea i read a lot of reviews that poetic materials peel off, they said that it was the 1st batch and they have fixed it. i still want it though. :D

a bit thicker but the problem for me is it's wider, difficult for me who have rather small hand. that's why i want that poetic so bad. the official lg bumper, imho, too expensive. i can give you a link where you can buy the replica if you want, they have 7 choices of colours too, but i don't know if they can ship it from singapore.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Actually i have a link to the thread that sell N4 bumper (replica) from Jakarta, cost me about 150.000 shipped to my place. But they out of stock.

Do you use hardcase? Whats your opinion hardcase or bumper? :D

Hardcase is good enough for me actually but i can't see that beautiful reflection with this hardcase :(
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
bumpers. i have a nilkin hardcase but end up i never use it after less than 1 week. the problem is if you have wet applied SP on the backside, the hardcase will leave a mark around the camera and speaker cuts, i don't know if this is the same with dry SP. beside, i want to show that beautiful back too. :D
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
I'm using one from LG, and yea, it's pretty thick for me, especially at the front side.

It gives enough trouble if you're using PIE and triggering it from the side. But probably just because of my big thumb, lol
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Yes nilikin too here. With my SP it fits well, no bubble only on top of it, and it was my fault. lol

Is it makes N4 looks ugly? I dont want this beautiful phone looks ugly at all, i want it to be naked but too afraid to broke the glasses. :p
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Hi guys, glad to find this thread out.. Does anybody want to do a small meet so we can compare cases for the Nexus 4 and talk about how awesome our phones are :p
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hahaha lets do it. I assume you re in jakarta?

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The LG Bumper actually looks very OEM. It's like its part of the phone. This is due to the chrome buttons and the gray accent on the railing.

If you want the naked look, use a wet application screen protector like the XtremeGuard, Skinomi, or Zagg. The material is think enough and makes the phone very grippy. Also it will heal from light scratches.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Yea I'm in Jakarta. You too?

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yea man. South Jakarta.

Lets do it if we can get other people to join in.

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[Nexus 4 General] shailpancholi:
I wanted to buy a n4 from indonesia 8gb can anyone tell me how to and from where to buy i am from india but my uncle goes to indonesia quite often plz tell me and what about the price plz help me
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
I'm actually looking for an otterbox style hardcase. Can't believe they don't make it for the Nexus 4

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yeah, Otterbox. I'd buy it too if they ever release the Defender. But for now, take a look at the Ballistic.

What I actually want is a Lifeproof case for the Nexus 4. Waterproof AND shock proof. $100 is a fair price i think. Too bad they only make cases for iOS devices.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No i font want it to be naked, already drop it twice, lucky me its ok, and no scratch yet.

Ordered one more front and back SP.

Ok i will get the bumper. :cool:

EDIT: Just tested my network speed (I am on Three btw)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
But keep in mind that the bumper will add significant width to the phone. Will be a problem if you have small hands.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
From what I've heard Indonesian market only get the 16 gigs.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
another option is bestskinsever, which i'm using now. i used xtremeguard before, i must say i don't quite like the material and the cuts, add to that the obvious orange peel effect.
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Only 16gb version is available here in Indonesia.

For the price, you should consider buying this awesome device outside, like aussey or us, aus$400 shipping excluded, and $350 in us shipping excluded

Maybe knowing this you should reconsider, but if you insist, you might find it on eraphone

Regards
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
US Play Store price breakdown:

Nexus 4 16GB - $350

Tax - $30

Shipping to US address - $13 (same for one or two devices)

Total price: $393 or IDR 3.75 million.

Keep in mind you need to pay shipping to Indonesia as well on top of the above price. Unless you have a friend who can hand carry it for you.

Indonesian prices: IDR 5.55 million or $585.

Indonesian lowest Pre-order price: IDR 4.55 million or $478.

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[Nexus 4 General] shailpancholi:
So its nt worth buying from indonesia?? But buy from us.problem is that none of my relative go or are in us or aussey thats a big prob but anyways thanks for the help
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Worth or not, that actually depends.

For that price you could get a second hand Galaxy S3 or a new HTC One X. Do you appreciate the unlocked bootloader and the rapid community development of the Nexus 4? If you don't have any means to get the N4 from overseas,then I would say, yeah, its worth it. Even at Indonesian price.

But if you have friends or relatives in the US, its not worth it to get it in Indonesia.

Bear in mind that the Bill of Material for all flagship phones (iPhone 5, One X, S3, Nexus 4) are only about $200. Now, if you think getting the S3 or iPhone 5 is worth their current price, then Nexus is also a good deal, even with its $580 price tag. The only reason Google are selling the Nexus 4 for $390, unlike Apple, Samsung, HTC, and LG, is because they are not expecting profits from hardware sales.

Don't think that LG is cheating you for selling it at much higher price than Google. It is Google who is cheating the other phone manufacturers by selling phones at cost.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
dont forget you have to include international shipping fee which is about $17 (to Singapore), unless you have someone who will fly to your place from US.
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
This phone has awesome speed. I tested it on a fiber optic line and it can hit the maximum speeds quite well!
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
For those that like minimalistic design, you can get those acrylic style see through case from iblasson
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Careful with that case. Acrylic will scratch easily.

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Here's my current homescreen. Current ROM is ParanoidAndroid with Franco.kernel. Using Nova Prime launcher with Vexillum icon pack. Weather/clock widget is Chronus/cLock from CyanogenMod.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Has anyone actually scratched the gorilla glass on the nexus 4.? Like when putting it on a table without any additional protection?

Oh and has anyone bought a hard case from amazon?

Thanks guys

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Amazon shipping cost to Indonesia is ridiculous. You better off buy from eBay or aliexpress.

No scratches as i always used screen guard.

But all you need is one tiny speck of sand to scratch gorilla glass. Those sand particles are harder than steel and any kind of glass.

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[Nexus 4 General] s1mpleful:
Dropped my phone and the screen is scratched, small but still noticeable.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
My case scratch quite a lot. At least it's not the back glass. I used poetic bumper before, but doesn't work with the wireless charging orb and it was breaking apart so fast

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yes, i heard stories about the Poetic bumper problem with the orb. The oem or replica LG Bumper works fine with wireless charging, so people said.

Where did you got that orb btw? Are u in the US?

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My condolences.

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Thanks for the share. How bad of a drop was that? I heard on one of the reviews that the nexus 4 is supposed to be very easy to damage if you drop it. But if you only got a scratch from dropping it then it may be tougher than people say it is.

Anyone else scratched the gorilla glass just by normal daily use?

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I don't think there's a lot of people who rocks their N4 without any sort of back protection. A dry application back protector is only Rp 30 thousand in kaskus.

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[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
I've got this rugged back protector from ebay and I couldn't complain more :good:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Do you mean it's bad?

How much including shipping to Indonesia?

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[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
You mean it's good or bad?

Ebay link?

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[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
I mean I'm satisfied with the quality as it fully protects the whole physical body of your phone. If I'm not mistaken it's around US$8 the shipping cost to Indonesia, you can find the review here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2042556&page=2

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I bought it from here

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FULL-BLACK-...085892?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item51a60af104

but I think Indonesia is excluded, so the alternative is

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-RUGGE...525047?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item35c3c1ce37

ofcourse it's better if you can find this item at local store:good:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Ah, do you live in the US?

I'm thinking to get such case for days that I'm required to do field works.

Man, I hope Lifeproof would come to it's senses and make a case for the Nexus 4.

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Yes I live in US. The current car works great with the orb. It's flat and thin enough. I'm thinking of getting the black titanium dbrands when available.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
are you talking about the nexus orb? how does the poetic bumper prevent the charging when the orb is touching the nexus backside directly?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yeah I'm getting the black titanium as well. Can't wait! Probably gonna order it a long with the white carbon and red or blue leather, and pair it with the colored LG replica bumper. Now if only my black leather would arrive soon enough....it's been10 days ffs. Come on, Canada Post, Jakarta is not THAT far.

What do you mean "current car"? For cars, I think there's a third party inductive charging car dock available for sale, saw it somewhere on xda, but it cost at least $100.

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CMIIW, but with the Poetic, the phone would not "stick" to the orb, due to the bumper's hard plastic material (as opposed to LG Bumper's rubberized material) and the orb's mechanism of using rubber friction and angled position.

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Just like Elzafir said, the clearance of the back of the poetic bumper is not enough for the width of the orb. The orb requires a contact to a surface to prevent the phone from sliding off the angle.

I'm interested with the black titanium or red leather and when I have that, I most likely will not use any bumper or case. I think the front glass is strong enough against particles that's in my pocket and I hadn't dropped any of my phones so far. I only use the current case because the back glass is supposedly very susceptible to scratches. It's a pity though since I really like the back look of the n4.

Do you know if the LG replica will add significant thickness to the phone? I have no problem with wider but don't like if the phone is thick.

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
In terms of thickness, the LG Bumper would add approx 1mm to both sides of the phone, making the phone to be 11mm thick (naked is 9.1mm). The extra 1mm to both sides is a blessing for me, though, since it would create a "lip" just big enough to prevent the phone touching the surface a table when placed upon one.

In terms of width, it does add considerably more width to an otherwise already wide phone.

Here's the N4 dimensions with and without bumper.

Naked:

Width 68.7mm

Height 133.9mm

Depth 9.1mm

With LG Bumper:

Width 75mm (adds 3.1mm to each sides)

Height 140mm (adds 3mm to each sides)

Depth 11mm (adds 1mm to each sides)

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
i see, so the orb's diameter is bigger than the area poetic does not cover. interesting.

lg replica bumper is not thick at all, based on poetic pics, it seem it's thicker than lg bumpers.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
That sounds like I have to give this replica out official bumper a try. I guess the pics I saw on Google makes it seems that it is thicker than the poetic

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
The replica is quite nice actually. The feel and material is the same with original (even the rubber texture is there). Other users swears that it fits perfectly. My replica is a bit too large on top and bottom, which makes it produce a "creaking" sound when I press the bottom part.

There's a whole thread going on about the replica:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2055297

The cheapest one could get is from a seller on Taobao for $12.50 shipped and he has various colors. There's also a replica on Amazon with Shenit brand for $15. Dx-box replica masquerade as original but actually a fake for $25.

I got one for $18 shipped from xda user innumerabilis who ordered the taobao replica in bulk and send it many xda users all over the world.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
mine fits perfectly, it doesn't bent when pressing from all sides. as i previously mentioned, do note that this bumper does not cover the top and bottom chrome bezel completely. you may not 100% satisfied if you are very particular person like me. here's a pic of mine:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Probably I'm just unlucky then. Even so, I just ordered a white and a red replica bumper.

Btw, where did you buy your replica?

I never been bothered by the top and bottom chrome bezel showing. I think it's kinda neat. And with the way the buttons are designed to mimic the real buttons, no way I'm moving to a third party bumper.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
yea the white looks pretty. there's a store here in plaza singapura that sells the replica for s$27, bundled with front/back dry sp.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Can you take the back picture?

also how black is the black? It has a little grey look from the picture but could be lighting too

It would actually bother me because it does look a little awkward. But I like the stealth look of the phone the way K0WAWA shows it.

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[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
it looks grey-ish probably because it's a textured material. here's the pic of the backside.
[Nexus 4 General] erikwervo:
hiya guys, anyone in Jakarta own the official nexus orb yet?