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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
16GB is not nearly enough for me.

I have several "gigabytes games", i.e. FIFA 12, Man of Steel, etc. Also have Dead Space, Madden, NBA Jam, Dead Trigger, etc. installed. Those alone already took 5-6GB of storage. And then there's hundreds of smaller apps installed on my phone which took about 3GB. With around 1GB of downloaded 720p YouTube clips and around 2GB of 320kbps MP3s.

And with all the RSS feeds I read (cache could reach up to 300MB) and the photos I took, I'm just left with approx. 1GB of free space.

I think a 32GB version will be enough for me to store some HD movies ans TV shows and some FLACs albums.

This is one of the reasons I envy the Galaxy S4: expandable storage.

And also, the multi-window, better camera, better screen, better battery life, and the IR blaster (I could not tell you how many times I want to change the TV channel in a waiting room when they're playing sinetrons. Fcuk sinetrons. I hate them. :mad:).

But I got my N4 for $375, so I couldn't be happier :D.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
do u bought it abroad?

my 3g network/data is horrible, anyone feel the same issue?

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[Nexus 4 General] arief347:
Nope, mine is ok..what's your kernel? Did you try on others devices and the same issue?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I ordered it on 1 December 2012 from the US Play Store (the second batch, first restock) and had a friend hand carry it to Indonesia in January 2013. It costs me $350 for the handset + $13 shipping and $30 tax. So I guess it was $393 hehe. Rp 3.8juta at the time. Of course I don't get the LG Indonesia warranty. But it was $180 cheaper than the release price in Indonesia. So I'm a happy camper.

For your data issue, check your modem version in Settings-About phone-Baseband version.

See the last two numbers. It should say either .24, .27, .33, .48, or .54.

Also, I recently switched from Matrix to kartuHalo and in Jakarta it made a world of difference! Matrix was **** and in Pondok Indah never gets 3G or H, always EDGE. It drains my battery searching for signal. KartuHalo is much faster and stable in H+ most of the time.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] riyoshadqi:
I have problem on my n4,there's grey line on left screen which more visible when the device getting heat.. (udah googling dan banyak yang ngalamin juga) had been try to change kernel,rom but still persist,is it possible to disappear by itself after few time?or should i claim my warranty?thx before and sorry for my bad english
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I never experienced it on my device. Most likely a hardware issue.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
So it's a good idea for you to send it back back to claim your warranty

Anyway, I'm using pa and franco combination.. Any of you with the same combination have ever gotten H+ connection?

It's been really a while haven't gotten that symbol -__-
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
My exact combination. PA and Franco.

When I was on Indosat, I usually get H in some areas and EDGE in Pondok Indah. Now I'm on KartuHalo and always get H+.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Oh i see, i got H+ when i was on stock rom bro.. Using XL btw, i have a thought that it was ROM and kernel related
[Nexus 4 General] lembang:
Hi, I'm from bumi padiangan as well..

My N4 is 16gb, got it as bday present..

I use custom ROM (carbon) + Franco kernel, well what should I say..I'm very happy with this phone, the battery life could last long for over 36hrs, I'm running on Bell's LTE network...
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Where do you live? I never had more than 15h of battery life. Of course, always on H+ and never put my phone on my pocket (always using it).

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hey guys,

I'm glad someone decided to make this thread. Indonesian here too.

Lets talk about the Nexus 4, its accessories availability in Indonesia, development, anything! I'm just too happy there are Indonesians on XDA! :D

But please use English ya, because we never know how our discussion could be useful for people from another country.

Cheers, mates!
[Nexus 4 General] JoshieGeek:
Well, I just bought a NILLKIN leather case from an online store. And an anti-glare screen-protector.

I don't want to promote any store, but I think this one is good.

In gadgetsvillage.net
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Is that a local indonesian store?

I have a OEM bumper replica on the way from Singapore, but I'm really tempted on the red Nillkin Hard Case, with the textured back.

CMIIW, but the leather Nillkin case came with a full body (front+back) screen protector, right? Can you comment on the quality of the SP?
[Nexus 4 General] JoshieGeek:
Well about the case, the quality is good.

But for the Screen Protector (SP), I only use back SP from Nillkin.

For the front, I buy an anti-glare SP, and it's good. I forgot what's the name, but I think this one is good.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
That's good then. I'm gonna buy the red hard case. While its only came with the front SP, it would be enough for me right now, since I haven't remove the stock rear plastic protector. It's should do fine while I wait for my XtremeGuard front+back SP to arrive.

Btw, how about your battery life?

I have a "Faster" CPU, undervolt by -150mV all across the frequencies with Franco kernel r62 and AOKP ROM build 2, and I'm still struggling to get 3h30m of screen on time on 3G until the phone shuts off.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Damn! How? Mine is fast i can uV -162.5mA and battery life is way better than my old Gnex, nirmally i can get 4.5h screen on.

I am on xylon with harsh kernel (with my custom tunable interactive)

Just ordered nilikin hardcase from online store, cost me 174000 fast shipping to Jogja. :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I got Faster, guess I'm just lucky hehe.

But still, the battery life is abysmal for a high end phone. I expected the n4 to match GS3's battery life, since it has a 28nm cpu and same battery capacity, but apa lacur bro... i find myself scrambling for charger much too often than I'd like.

What happen when you go lower than -162.5mV? I wanted to go lower than -150, but afraid it would harm the phone somehow.

When you get more than 4h of SOT, are you on Wi-Fi all the time or 3G?

I envy other people's nexus 4. :(

As for ROM, I understand the differences between AOKP, CM, and PA. But what about the Xylon and MinCo? How does they differ from each other, or differ from stock?

On the n4 case and accessories, i can only find the nillkins and s-line TPU in indonesia. Do you guys know any other case beside those i mentioned?

On a side note, I currently have an S-Line TPU Smoked/Clear case that I bought for Rp 30rb and a cheap SP for Rp 35rb (it got nicked already, looks ugly now).

I ordered several other accessories from eBay, namely the XtremeGuard Front+Back Screen Protector for $7, a red Mofi-clone pouch for $3, and a Nexus 4 Sports Arm Band for $5. Also, I ordered an LG Bumper replica from someone at this forum for $20. Prices include shipping. I'll do a short review once I received them.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I can go even lower at -175 but its not as stable as 162.5 for me. If you lower it and got freeze then reboot try upped it a bit until you reach the most stable one.

Actually i followed xylon since its first release in Gnex by daxmax, then i moved to n4 and after playing with PA for some days finally i am back to xylon, this rom has a bunch of feature, pretty stable and frequently updated, and they keep adding more features so i never get bored with this one. Try it and you never look back. PIE in this rom is as stable as in PA, so dont hesitate to use it. :D

Anyone know any online shop who sell front and back cover (screen protector) for n4? Please share here, i need one soon. ;)

Thanks in advance
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
I get really good Battery Life on my N4 running cyanogenmod. This was on telkomsels network. I also froze Google Maps as I have always found that app to be a real background battery drainer.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Thanks for your explanation on undervolting. I'll try tinkering with my voltage and post the results here. What's your max freq?

Xylon sounds interesting. I'm actually looking for a ROM with a talented dev who listens to his users and update frequently. I actually like CM, but the stubborness of the devs and convulated development process put me off. That's why I went with AOKP, they're like CM on steroids. PA with PIE control is definitely interesting, but they need to settle on a design and focus on improving stability. I'll definitely give Xylon a good look and will flash it this weekend.

This guy is really nice (I bought my TPU case from him). He also sells front and back protective films for Rp 30rb each. Unfortunately they're anti-glare/matte, and I hate matte SPs. The quality of the clear SP is standard. It will get scratched if you deliberately scratching it with keys/other metal object. But hey, it's cheap and available.

http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/50f66e35ea74b4f97f000003

That's a good battery life right there. Could you also post your Screen On time?

Since you mentioned a carrier, I myself use Indosat with Super3G+ 2.5GB quota package. I spend most of my days in Sudirman and even though I always get full bars, when on HSPA+ i get around 1.5KB/s. Very taik move from Indosat, getting people to pay Rp 100,000 upfront and then undercuts our bandwidth. On a (very rare) good day, although I can get up to 500KB/s, it could suddenly drop to EDGE.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
My max @ 1.5GHz if you want i will post my custom tunable.

Thanks mate thats really help me. :)

Use three, 3 network is pretty good here, its fast, but sometimes i experienced signal lost or cannot connect to internet (bar is full and H icon is there) when rain.

I have one good solution for maps, so you can still use it. First turn off auto location update on maps, and use Autostart manager, untick all Google Maps related receivers. :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
You're welcome.

Yes, please do post your tunables.

Ah, nice trick with maps.

I guess, you learn something new every day.

But, by disabling maps, would the auto GPS location functionality of apps like Facebook, Path out Camera also be disabled?
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Wong Suroboyo in LA/OC area ;)
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No, it just disable maps app activity.

Here you go ;)

First cycle when i am on PA, dont have time to calibrate my battery yet on xylon, they keep updating their rom, so my phone doesnt have enough time to settle. :(

More advice: disable location access when you dont use it, it saves much battery.

Turn off googleNow. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] asphire23:
Hi guys, I'm visiting Jakarta next month with my N4. What's a great prepaid 4G provider to fully use my phone?

Thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No 4G here, only HSPA+, if you need internet and speed with a great price, go for three network. I am using it right now, and its fast, fastest here imo. :p
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
When I was in surabaya different part of the city has different prevalent provider. I was mostly on the west side and I was told that Telkomsel is the best on the area so that was what I used. Compared to my sister who decided to use indosat, mine has faster service in more places. I was using my N1 at that time though.

I'd say ask people in the area where you'll be staying or spending most time at. AFAIK the regulation of cell tower in Indonesia is not as heavily regulated as other countries thus in certain area some provider will try to increase the power to their tower causing jamming effect for other providers
[Nexus 4 General] den_piero:
Hadir!...Really glad that i found my fellow brothers in here :good:
[Nexus 4 General] rully.dzee:
I just got my Nexus 4, 3 years ago, this phone is amazing, but unfortunately, it's a bit hard to find the armor here. And yeah, I also experiencing the battery-life issue, hope the updates will fix it :good:
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Battery life pretty good here, better than my old galaxy nexus.

3 years ago? Really? :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] lembang:
I live in Vancouver, BC, Canada.

Indeed if you use it all the time, 15 hours have been considered as a good amount of battery life. I have SGS3. They have exactly the same amount of battery capacity yet, my s3 can only last long for like 12 hours(i'm not always keep playing around with my phone:p)

Is there any LTE network now in Indonesia?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
But with 15h I don't use my phone that often. Usually, I leave home at 7am, arrived at the office at 8 and will be using my phone until 3-4pm, where it will have 2.5h-3h of SOT. My battery then will only have 15-20% capacity.

We don't have LTE (yet) in Indonesia. Only WiMax, but its operated not by a carrier, instead by an ISP. So WiMax is only for modems/broadbands. I think LTE is still a long way to go due to the difference in infrastructure compared to 3G networks. And the carriers are having price wars, so investing in a LTE network might not be on the agenda.

The best data connection we could get from GSM (Telkomsel, Indosat, XL, 3, Axis) and CDMA (Esia, smartfren, Telkom Flexi) carriers is 3.5G (H+ for GSM or Rev. B FOR CDMA), with max. 14.4mbps bandwith. In reality though, we only get 50-100kBps download rate on a good day depending on areas and and up to 500kBps on a VERY good day in low congestion areas. Which is enough for browsing and RSS feeds, but not for a lag-free YouTube or Google Music streaming.

Do you encounter any problems using N4's LTE in VA?

Does LTE sucks more battery vs 3G/H+?

How much LTE data costs per GB over there?

In Indonesia, on average, data costs Rp 50,000/GB.

As I have wi-fi at home and at work, I never use more than 1.5-2GB per month of data. But then, I don't do music streaming or watch YouTube due to the slow connection.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
Hi, newcomer in xda here (as my name suggest)...hehe. I used to have PA combined with franco and got consistent 3G connection (using XL mainly around Sudirman, Jakarta). However, I noticed that there are times that the connection will suddenly switch to G for no reason. My current rom (Xenon) is relatively more stable but slightly poorer battery life.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
The sudden drop to GPRS was most likely caused by a network congestion. I also experienced the same in Sudirman, but never in my home in Pasar Minggu.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] haiz:
Hi guys,

Just got this Incridibel Sweety months ago. really like the "smooth" feel from this LG Nexus 4. Still using standart ROM , and i think i'm not go using custome , cause already felt incredible with the default ROM.

Enhance this phone a little bit, using costumize launcher from NOVA and really love the look and feel.

Glad i have this sexy and sweet Nexus on my hand.:D
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
Yep, even stock rom in Nexus 4 is enough for day to day usage. However, you may want to check franco kernel for longer battery life. Many people choose to root their devices to be able to install custom kernel yet still using stock rom. I used to do that before the curiosity within me taken over and I started to flash different roms... LoL

One more thing, if you're using nova launcher, you might wanna check mycolorscreen.com for various gorgeous home screen tutorials.
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
hi all of you

I am N4 user since two weeks ago and very very happy with this phone. my previous phone is htc one v and when i bought this phone i feel satisfied with this phone.

however i want to ask some question. why in my phone i never get H+? i only get H instead of H+. i am using kartuHalo, stock kernel, stock room, rooted. anyone can tell me why i have this problem?

basically i didn't have problem with my connection, since i never get buffering when watch youtube, but this just make me curious. please lighten me
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
I notice recently I receive ads from google play. There is notification sound and if you swipe down you'll see something like this (that motoracing thing):

Anyone know how to stop or disable this ads?
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
Network coverage? Did you get H+ connection on your previous phone? Should you did, that's strange since nexus 4 support H+ connection.

Anyway, in my opinion, there isn't much difference between H and H+ in Indonesia due to the signal instability though it's definitely getting better.
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
my previous phone isn't support H+. I know there isn't much difference between H and H+ in Indonesia, but I fear it might be hardware problem. my provider is kartuHalo which support H+, this is why I ask about this. maybe there is some setting which I must enabled? maybe someone can help me.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
It's one of your app I believe, never get any ads from google play, and I guess google won't give you notification ads.

No image to show H+ indicator on framework-res.apk of stock and PA (i dont know about CM, but I guess it doesnt have it as well), it's the same thing on this phone between H and H+, I am a former HTC Sensation user and Sensation rom usually show H+ instead of H, some people even like it to show 4G, so devs usually make a simple flashable zip for anyone who want it.

No need to worry, if your network supported it, the phone will get it. :)

How was your connection btw?

I am using 3 in Sleman, usually get around 3-4Mbps on speedtest.net.
[Nexus 4 General] Chris_n00bz:
If your previous phone didn't support H+, how do you know that H+ coverage is available in your area? Perhaps it's due to the network coverage. Another reason would be like what [MENTION=2654779]aimcr7[/MENTION] mentioned. I myself using Xenon HD rom which enabled H+ indicator thus my signal would fluctuate between 3G, H and H+ (perhaps you want to consider using Xenon also...lol)
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
Change the baseband firmware to .27or .33
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
What do you mean? :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] feby.adityawan:
I don't get it. This Indonesian thread, but why speaks English? Hahahaha.. OT dikit lah, no offense. Nexus gw cmn pake go launcher sense 5 plus ringke fushion. Nubie
[Nexus 4 General] arief347:
Because this is international forum...and this forum has the rule, one of that is must speak English...

So follow the rules and respect each others.. :D

(Itung2 belajar bahasa inggris)
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
LOL read the rules man, unless you want to be banned in your first post, I assumed you dont want to so follow the rules, some moderators here not so noob friendly. :p

You may post in Bahasa but with it's English translations, even it's from Google Translate, we really appreciate it.

Anyway, welcome to xda mate ;)
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
anyone know what app has that notification icon (3 plus-in-circle on the top left)?
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
i live in Jakarta, so I believe H+ is available. and thank you [MENTION=2654779]aimcr7[/MENTION] for your information. I am in stock ROM, so if in stock rom than you won't get H+ indicator right? if that the case than I relieved. thank you for all of you.

one question, where in Jakarta I can buy anti glare which specifically design of nexus 4? because I purchase anti glare from ambasador but it need to be cut for front camera and proximity sensor, so it make anti glare not "tertempel dengan erat" (i forget english for this). can you recommend place or shop which i can get this item? i use anti glare because it didn't leave finger print in screen, but if someone know screen protector which didn't leave finger print than I will gladly take that.

and oh yeah don't tell me to buy from online, because I can't install it by my self :P
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
You should try wet application screen protector, need a patient to put it, but its easy and will protect all over the front case, got it from someone on kaskus, pm me if you want his number, cost me 30000 IDR, i bought a bumper (replica) too from him for 100.000 IDR. The seller from Bandung btw. There are a bunch of videos on youtube how to apply it, just try. ;)

There are plenty of seller from Jakarta on kaskus who sell anti glare, just search it on kaskus. I bought one sometime in January, cost me 30.000 for back protector, but visited his thread on March, he sell it for 40.000 for both (front and back), you can do CoD if you want him to help you apply the screen protector.

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:o what have you done to your phone?
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
What have I done what? The 3 icons are 3 ads I received. I'm trying to find this bloody app as you suggested. lol

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Nowadays you should learn to apply it yourself. It's fun trust me, you can find cheap SP (the matte SP I'm using right now is a S$3.5 buy-1-get-2) easily. For starter, you can buy a wet-install SP (xtremeguard, BSE, gadgetshieldz), coz you can align and realign it as long as it still wet. Even if it dry you can still reapply it. For dry install, search youtube for 'hinge method installation'.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Show me your apps, perhaps I can help you figure it out.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
Looks like because of Dark Avenger, ever since I uninstall this morning I still haven't get new notification. It's a good game though.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Tap-and-hold the ad in the notifications tray and click on App Info. Uncheck Show Notifications. Problem solved.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with ParanoidAndroid and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
ahh i uninstalled it. going to reinstall it again. cool tips. thanks!!!
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
can you pm me their kaskus id? both seller in jakarta and bandung, because i don't know who is recommend seller in kaskus. and this screen protector is anti finger print right?
[Nexus 4 General] ryohansen:
Hi guys! Ive been using nexus 4 for 3 months now. I rooted my nexus a month ago. Trust me, you will love your N4 more than ever!

I use CM 10.1.0 and it seems good for my N4, lucky for me also, CPU binning for my N4 is rated fast, you all should check your own CPU.

:cool::cool::cool:
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
use a combination with franco kernel, its extend the battery.
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Hello there. Newbie xda here :)

Using my nexus for 1month now. And i have tried franco kernel with stock rom, got decent battery life thanks for franco.

But, wanna ask is there someone using franco with cust rom (PA , CM etc)? How about the comparison of battery life ? Which one longer ? Thanks in advance :)

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
use franco+rootbox 4.1 its decent battery drain, but with normal usage. if used H+ radio for long browsing i think its the same like stock.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
In my experiences PA and CM is most battery friendly rom compared to others.

Try mortley kernel which is continued by thracemerin if you want more battery.

Welcome to xda mate :)
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Hmm. So it means that using some custrom is better than stock on battery life ?

Ok ill try later :)

Well thanks mate sorry for mybad english :p

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No, I mean best battery on custom rom, don't know about stock, never use stock. :rolleyes:

You can try resbean, minco and some other rom, I heard pretty good feedback about them.

There are a bunch of custom rom to try, try it and use the one suit you. I am stuck with PA for long time and never look back. :)