yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No, it cant be :eek:

It's all depend on the optimizations on that rom, for example: i have better battery life with PA than stock with the same kernel and settings. So no more myth like in non-nexus devices where's custom and aosp ROM tend to get worse battery life than stock. :rolleyes:

Just plugged my phone, and i use it too much today, uptime 9 and 10minutes and screen on almost 5hours. On 3g all the time with sync on. Fyi I am on PA and harsh kernel. :D
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
I'm on CM10.1 and latest franco nightly. Best battery life ever.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
5 hours screen on with 3g on is fantastic btw. My average use is 3,5 screen on and that even on wifi.

Yeah it depends on rom optimization. But from information I gather here on xda, battery life is more likely affected by kernel then rom. Maybe harsh kernel is designed for battery life. And one thing I learned from xda is kernels/roms/mods may work differently in every device, and nothing more convincing than your own experience.

Anyway, I prefer franco because I use his on my Gnex and feel satisfied and comfortable.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I always switch to franco if he released new kernel but always comeback to harsh. Try it and you will be satisfied, never got below 4hours with harsh. And its smooth.

Me too, came from maguro and very satisfied with franco, but i give almost every kernel here a try and stuck with harsh until now. :beer:

Here is the prove :p
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Mate, what on ROM are you? Correct me, that's xperia-ish ROM isn't it?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No its PA with Xperia Z theme. :)
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Oh, i suppose that's xperia z theme for cm

Well, thanks :)

I really thought you're using an xperia-themed ROM
[Nexus 4 General] copi:
hi guys

@aimcr7 could u post ur interactive setting, would like to know. just tried harsh now.

me also tried every kernel that posted on xda, so far the best battery experience for me is using motley, achieved 6hr sot with 18hr life time. but using wifi.

right now if ur usage is best on interactive, we can take a conclusion that, interactive is more battery friendly gov compare to others ( bcoz motley also use interactive, franco too) just have to know the right value tweak.. :)
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Reposted this from the battery impression thread.

This is just my experience, but what I find is that the screen always makes up for the biggest part of the battery life. If I set it on minimum, I can get way more than enough battery to last through the day, regardless of the amount of calls and data usage I do.

However minimum brightness doesn't quite work if you often move between indoor and outdoor settings as you can barely see the screen when you're outdoor. That means auto brightness is the one to go for, unless I want to keep adjusting screen brightness every time I move in and out a building.

Now this is where the battery killer is. You walk out of a building, start using your phone while outdoors and the auto brightness will have to kick in some pretty strong brightness so you can read the screen in bright sunlight. Bam, that's when the battery is gone.

It's funny because I'm always more active on my phone in the morning, before lunch time and yet since I'm usually indoors at those hours, I can hang around the 80-90% batter life pretty well. Then comes lunch time, lots of time outdoor, and bam my battery drops like crazy in just 1-2 hours time that I'm outdoor.

And the battery graph always confirm this too. Screen can take up to 40% of the battery life, easy.

Bottom line is, I try my best not to use the phone intensively when in bright outdoors. Otherwise the charger has to come out before day ends.

Here is proof of the screen gobbling battery. I've been active on the phone and replying emails all morning. Downloaded some apps from Play store too. Everything on 3G. Yet they're insignificant to the screen battery consumption.

Now the bad thing is, I don't think that any rom or kernel affects screen power draw much, unless you play around with different brightness level.

Oh and I've tried both deep sleep battery saver and ultimate juice defender. They help, but still it's ultimately up to the screen use.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Here you go my interactive tunable settings.

Its based on my research, still smooth enough but battery life is far better than default tunable.

It will spend much time on 384 and 1026 and rarely goes to 1512. It depend on how you use your phone tho.

It will goes above 1026 if cpu usage is above 95%. If it doesnt smooth enough for you try reduce timer rate value by 5000.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
I just set a temperature threshold limit. Easier, simpler, and the phone stays cool all day long.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
:confused:

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I usually put my brightness on 30% when i am going somewhere, text still readable and image is clear enough, and down it to 0% when i am home.

I can confirm it happens on every smartphone nowadays :p

You cant reduce screen usage, i am impressed at first when seeing nexus 4 screen usage, usually on galaxy nexus and sensation it above 50%, even on 0% brightness all the time.

Dont use battery saver app, it drain your battery faster or it will give you delayed notification with whatsapp or similar app, or random data drop.
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
The problem with setting screen brightness at a fixed number is that it can't possibly accommodate the difference in lighting conditions between indoor and outdoor settings.

The battery app, along with the Deep Sleep app has helped battery life for me. I don't know why it's not working for you. Perhaps something is wrong with your settings. I don't have a problem at all, emails and whatsapps are working just fine.

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What I mean is you set the temperature throttle threshold on Franco kernel. When the temperature hits that threshold limit, Franco will bump down the speed to keep temperature below limit.

Default is at 70. I'm now at 35. With Franco r110, everything still runs super smooth and the phone doesn't get hot ever. It's always cool to touch.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Its fine at 30% and if you think its too bright there is a toggle to use. :p it helps you save your battery.

It just not recommended, cause it actually didnt help you save your battery too much, come on, it is running in the background. Just turn off autosync for useless app, and monitor your apps, uninstall any resource and battery hog app.

you actually clocked your cpu at max 1026 :o , its smooth but not enough for heavy task like gaming or heavy multitasking. just undervolt or underclock it, its easier and more make sense. actually temperature threshold at 70 is enough, cpu will be underclocked automatically to 1.2 when it hits 60-65, and 1026 when it hits 69 or 70 i guess.

UV is help cpu to stay cooler when running at higher freq for sometime. Fyi 50-60°C for a modern mobile processor is considered normal, use case or bumper and it wont feels hot anymore.

My custom interactive tunable actually help my phone to stay cool and save my battery in day to day use and only run above 1026 if i use my phone for heavy task like gaming, and it works so far. No lag while gaming, tested with NFSMW. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Might not happen to everyone, but UV by -100mV all across the freqs caused distorted sound when recording video. Video is unwatchable due to the sound. Now I'm running stock voltage all the time, I just couldn't take the risk.

Now I just cap the max freq to 1350mHz. And in my experience, UV only contribute to minimal battery savings. A good kernel with good hotplugging algorithms (i.e. franco) will offer better battery life than UV.

I'm averaging 3h30m SOT on good 3G signal and 4h10m on Wi-Fi with super heavy use (online and browsing all the time, uploading pics to Path and Instagram, all sync and GNow on, light gaming for 30min). ROM is ParanoidAndroid.

Just my 2¢.

BtW, I never have my N4 last more than 6-7 hours. But I do use it continuously. I'm curious people who have their battery last 15 on standby, do you not use your phone during the day? How could you LIVE? :p

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
It happens for me on franco, i noticed some flickers on still photo with voltage i use on harsh. :(

But all is good here with harsh kernel, no flickers, no problem, and i do notice battery life on harsh is better, on franco i can only get 3.30-4h screen on time, but on harsh i always get above 4 hours screen on. With 3G all the time, same settings same apps in the same location. :o

I dont underclock tho, only tweaked the governor so it suits my daily usage.

:eek:

How you get that fast standby time?

If i use my phone constantly, it usually drain in 9hours. I do rest sometimes but my screen on would be slightly above 5h :D
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I have to test harsh today then. Thanks.

My short standby time is because I'm constantly on my phone. When I'm eating, working, or taking a ****. :p

And, oh, I NEVER rest. :D

EDIT:

Just tested Harsh today. Lost 25% with 45m SOT on 3G and 3 hours standby. And i feel the phone slightly want when listening to music. Every phone is different, though.

I will definitely test again on weekends to better monitor battery usage. It does look very promising. One thing I hate about Harsh is, there's no gamma control. My screen looks washed out (default Google screen calibration is really bad). It's like using an Xperia S. For the time being, I'm back to franco r110.

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[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Use script to change it, actually harsh kernel is all about script lol

He always post a script if there is a new feature.

Fyi Harsh using faux gamma implementation. Someone posted a mediafire folder full of custom gamma script collection, forgot its link tho, if you want i have halfbreed and a good gamma settings forgot its name. :D

Change governor to interactive and tweak it, the default interactive tunable is too aggressive for my taste. At least set hi_speed_freq at 1026 (1512 by default) and go_hispeed_load at 95 (99 by default). Use trickster to do it.

If you want to try ondemand (smoother but worse battery than interactive), tweak it a bit, harsh default settings is too aggressive imo.

Gonna play with mortley and matrix kernel this weekend, i heard some good things about those kernel, will post it here if i found something interesting. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yeah, I noticed the scripts. Just haven't found the time to learn it, though. Thanks for the elaborate info!

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[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Btw, cm is getting pie

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[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Well, that's good news! Any link?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
What link? I assume it will be available in next nightly.

Link for the source is cyanogenmod gerrit and google+.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I mean where did you get that information. I'm gonna check cm thread though.

EDIT: just checked cm thread :d it's official then.
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Late reply... it's on the official dev cm thread

More importantly cm is fixing the choosing of the radio band

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[Nexus 4 General] chrone:
hello foxy roxy

hello foxy roxy.. and hello to everyone! :D
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
Fyi, new build of rasbeanjelly also employs Pie control now :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Just found an app to modify your framework animation called framework tool, if you are getting tired of the same jb animation try it, you will be satisfied. :cool:

It requires root.

Just want to share. Sorry if everyone already knew it. :o
[Nexus 4 General] dewadg:
Hello guys, nice to meet you all. I am a Nexus 4 user from Denpasar :D
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Definitely going to try cm once they released the one with pie navbar.

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Nice to meet you.

I bet there aren't so many mako user in Denpasar, are they?
[Nexus 4 General] :
:D I'm another one currently living in denpasar
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
It's out

Sent from my Nexus 4

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I tried it couple days ago.. I'm so used to the current animation that when I expect to see certain animation and it behaves the other way it gives me motion sickness like feeling

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[Nexus 4 General] beckham_totti:
hello all... nice to meet you.. can we speak indo here?? mohon bimbingannya:D:D:D
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
Hi there, I can use and speak bahasa but I think it's better to use English because using another language is against xda rules. But a bit bahasa is OK I think :p

Btw pake rom apa sekarang?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
A bit bahasa is ok, but it will be safer if you could include English version of it (google translate is ok). Or use pm instead.

Btw guys, i am trying mortley kernel now, and i can say its smoother than harsh, can't say anything about battery life yet tho since i just use it for 6 hours, and my battery stats messed up :(

Hopefully this thing give me better battery life. :)
[Nexus 4 General] walkingmike:
Dropped the Nexus two times yesterday! Once flat on the back side, the other one flat on the front side. I am so grateful for having this cheap case otherwise my Nexus won't be looking pristine anymore.

Both fall is from standing height. Phew.
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
I watch official cm thread closely and it seems that there is an issue about PIE control responsiveness. Have you tried the rom? I am a bit reluctant to switch as already comfortable with PA on both my Nexus 4 and Gnex.

Probably will try their next nightly on my Gnex.
[Nexus 4 General] beckham_totti:
stock rom with tweaks... LMT + nexuslouder + nexus display franco + cant remember.. i think they are enough for now.. not bored with the UI yet since its only been 2 months..
[Nexus 4 General] xpresotw:
ParanoidAndroid 3+ 28 Mar 2013 nightly builds + Matr1xs kernel
[Nexus 4 General] commbot:
Denpasar reporting in
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
Welcome aboard! So we've got plenty from Denpasar :thumbup:
[Nexus 4 General] Contivity:
Been away on a trip so haven't been checking xda. I tried it and tried the pie. It's pretty good for me but not as customisable as PA. Responsiveness is not bad, but I prefer using gesture with GMD or just the nav bar button.

I find that the features on CM is much better than any other ROM. That's the reason I switch back to CM after trying PA for few days.

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[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
In rasbean, hiding navbar without losing the status bar and automatically trigger pie are just 2 clicks away
[Nexus 4 General] gedel wind:
numpang absen, kang...

:D
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
Welcome. Here you go
[Nexus 4 General] Fifaisal:
http://goo.gl/XxRe8 :D

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[Nexus 4 General] kruzae:
Was wondering is there any telco that offer us internet speed at 21+mbps so we can benefit from the nexus dc hsdpa?

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[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/293/590/6f6.gif

:D;)
[Nexus 4 General] hehe1110j:
extract dialpad and contacts app in android original of Nexus4,please help me!
[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
Couldn't understand what you are saying, do you want to extract telephony n contacts apk from the stock or what?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I guess he is trying to ask original phone.apk from stock one.
[Nexus 4 General] wanchung:
New nexus 4 owner from Surabaya. Greetings everyone
[Nexus 4 General] ApriliaM3:
Let's try and keep things friendly and on-topic here please guys...

This is a family forum and people should not be subjected to that sort of language under any circumstances.

I've cleaned the thread and I don't want to be returning to see that again.

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] wanchung:
My nexus connected to WiFi but the WiFi icon is gray but show notification download n upload ( arrow up and down) on the WiFi icon. But can't connect usually the WiFi icon is blue. Anyone ? Had same problem? Please enlight me thanks
[Nexus 4 General] bijixda:
Greeting from nexus 4 user from jakarta.

Does your phone rattle (bunyi2) when shaken?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 General] simorangkir_dcs:
No. Don't have that problem.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Its blue if it connected to google service, and grey if it isnt.

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No, no rattle here
[Nexus 4 General] bijixda:
hmm, I have rattling sound when shaken... should I return my unit? I bought it from a store in pacific place
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Better do it now. :p
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
There are many discussions about this on xda. The rattle is the camera auto focus mechanism. Dont need to worry.

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[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
The Nexus 4 in jakarta is having a price drop to 4,6jt if you buy at Lotte Mart. Its the best deal so far unless you buy it subsidized from the US.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
have to check if this is 8/16gb. if 8gb its still expensive.
[Nexus 4 General] bluesky3012:
Curious, can you find a bumper for nexus in indonesia?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Try to search on kaskus, it costs 250.000 without shipping (the official one)
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
From my understanding they only sell 16gb in jakarta
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I have the replicas. A black (OEM color), red, and the white one. Cost me $18 or around IDR 170ribu each including shipping. Quality is 95% of the original. Only things that's off is the buttons paint on the inside of the bumper. Bought it from a Singapore XDA member innumerabilis. He got it from taobao.com in China, for $12 originally.

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[Nexus 4 General] bijixda:
bought this one using ebay, i bought black one.

it was nice bumper

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160997405314?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[Nexus 4 General] bluesky3012:
[MENTION=2904682]elsaf[/MENTION]ir very interested in this, can you post a picture? Or do you have line or whatsapp?
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Bro [MENTION=3382430]elzafir[/MENTION], how much does the back skin you ordered cost?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Hi, I will post pictures tonight after work.

The dbrand back skin cost me CAD$13 shipped from Canada.

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
[MENTION=3382430]elzafir[/MENTION] 13 in total or ++?

Man, do you have line or whatsapp?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Its 13 canadian dollars in total. Or around 12.5 USD.

Dbrand has a $3 world wide flat shipping.

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Bro you got my pm?

And if you don't mine, can i have your line id? Or number bro?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Here are the replicas bumpers pictures.

Quality is well worth the price.

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[Nexus 4 General] wathefak:
It's so quiet in here...
[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
Really quite, anyone interested in white nexus 4?

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[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Do you have one to sell?

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[Nexus 4 General] icang16:
Mana nih masih sepi
[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
Nope, it's just being sold in us, cmiiw, and not yet for Indonesian market,

Just curious, if any one prefer the white one, over the black one,

Oh yeah, everybody i just got my official bumper last month, it's from Oz, i get one from k*skus, just info, if someone looking for one

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Anybody knows where to buy dbrand back skin with reasonable price here around jakarta?

Regards
[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
I just found one in k*skus, seller id: renggaap, it's cost idr 150.000, i think it's a reasonable price,

I bulk order Xtremeguard together with some k*skus user and it's cost about idr 70.000 for shipping

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Ummm i think i bumped to his thread once, but not sure because he's not doing COD, mind to share the link for xteremguard?

Regards
[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
http://m.kaskus.co.id/post/5125b96c0b75b45c59000014

There are only 3 pcs back only that remain,

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[Nexus 4 General] arief347:
Wow finally find this thread :)
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
If you're interested, I'm selling my current dbrand black leather skin once I received my new skin. It's in good condition (95% lah) and has been using it for 3 months. I'll be willing to part with it for IDR 95,000 excluding shipping.

I also have 7x new and unused front and back XtremeGuard wet application protectors. I'll sell it for @ IDR 100,000 excluding shipping.

COD Jakarta at my office in Sudirman during work hours. After work hours in Pasar Minggu and surrounding areas.
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
anyone knows where to buy this around jakarta?

wired headset
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
But why?

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[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
looks good. isn't it? what do you say?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Yeah it's pretty. But from the reviews, quality is mediocre for the price point. There are better alternatives in the price range, such as IEM from Sennheiser, Nakamichi, Brainwavz, Superlux, heck, even dbe.

But as for looks, I can't fault you for wanting it. It does look premium.

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[Nexus 4 General] curtzxion:
for my fellow Indonesian, who have difficulties with goo.im

some mirror of PA

ROM

10 June http://files.indowebster.com/pa_mako_3_60_10jun2013_095048.html

06 June http://files.indowebster.com/pa_mako_3_57_06jun2013_185039.html

GAPPS

07 June http://files.indowebster.com/pa_gapps_full_4_2_20130607_signed.html
[Nexus 4 General] ronald dip:
Anyone have mirror latest rootbox nightly on dropbox or G drive ?
[Nexus 4 General] yukarundeng:
Bro, do you sell this? Or you have link for them?
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I'm not a seller.

I bought it from a guy in Singapore over at the Replica Bumper thread.

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[Nexus 4 General] rickywinataa:
hi, a very new nexus 4 user here. do you guys have any recommendation of where to buy a case ? because as you know it's pretty hard to find a good case for nexus 4. thx !
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Well, there's the Capdase TPU slim case, Nillkin faux-leather flip case, the OEM bumper, etc. Just look in Kaskus FJB.

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[Nexus 4 General] sjeik1985:
New nightly up!

http://rootbox.basketbuild.com/down...ies/mako/RootBox-JB-mako-Nightly-20130620.zip

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Nexus 4 - Mako Nightly 20130620

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[Nexus 4 General] e2250:
Storage Problem

hello,i am from Bandung...:D

I plan to upgrade my old droid to N4 next month. But as we now N4 doesn't have micro sd slot, and only 16GB storage.

I just want to ask you guys,is 16GB enough for you for daily use like for music,picture and mainly install/download apps?
[Nexus 4 General] arief347:
Mine 8GB... Its is fair enough for me... :) and i'm from bandung too