yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Wildfire S] operator 3:
E: Can't open / cache / recovery / command is normal it displayed when you enter the stock recovery. You must select reboot and the process will continue. This will be repeated 2 times.

If your version of hboot is 1.09.0099 or 1.08.0099, no update is needed.

The latest European firmware version is 2.26.401.3, but it is not important in unlocking hboot.
[HTC Wildfire S] Anteino:
Allright thank you, I'm using galaxy_s unlock app now because this method wouldn't work.
[HTC Wildfire S] eifelgeist78:
Hi @ all,

i want to unlock the WFS from my wife. Can anyone confirm that the tool is working under Windows 8 64 bit?

Thanks for help.
[HTC Wildfire S] operator 3:
Yes, work under Windows 8 64 bit.

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/5928/screenrj.jpg
[HTC Wildfire S] eifelgeist78:
Hi,

thanks for the information. I successfully unlocked my WFS. :) Let´s start flashing an testing. Now for my wife the rom has to be stable and bugfree. Everything else is not good for me ;). There are a some roms, so the hole weekend i have a date with the WFS.

Can somebody tell me what is the best and bugfree rom for a woman? :D I read a lot of thread´s but i don´t have enough time to read everthing.

Thx for help.

Greets from Germany
[HTC Wildfire S] Kevinjoa:
Mine Marvellous Sense 2.1. Based in stock Rom but with Vetter performance and it has installer ui where you can chose between different kernels and apps. :)
[HTC Wildfire S] eifelgeist78:
Hi,

ok i will test it. But where can i find it? In custom sense rom i don´t see something like that or some tomatos are lying on my eyes :)

Greets and thanks :good:
[HTC Wildfire S] Kevinjoa:
Here you go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2256576
[HTC Wildfire S] eifelgeist78:
Thanks, i read cm7 down your signature and i thought that was the wrong one.

So i will flash it during CL-Final and will give a report.

Have a nice weekend.

Greets
[HTC Wildfire S] soibe.abu:
how can i unlock Hboot wildfire s

how can i unlock Hboot wildfire s
[HTC Wildfire S] donothurtme:
:good: Thank you man <3 :D :good:
[HTC Wildfire S] Errornt:
Hi mate. Can you tell me is there a canse to repair my htc wildfire with this software. Wnen i try to enter in recovery mod i god red triangle, and than phone stack on black screen, and nothing. I cant turn it on, stuck on white screen with htc logo. Is thare any chanse to repair this death phone. :( And i cant turon on my phone to enable usb debaging mode.

My HBOOT-0 3805. 06.02.03_M .Sorry for my English.
[HTC Wildfire S] Rain_Saeid:
very Nice

Very Good Job..

Thanx..

Good Lock
[HTC Wildfire S] aaki_rocker:
didnt work for me !

sent the phone into continuous bootloop cycles !

even if i try to go into recovery it bootloops again !

i've tried twrp nd cwm both !

what should be done ?
[HTC Wildfire S] archstanton2013:
In which step you get bootloops? I used many times this tool and phone never fell into bootloop...sometimes it required many restarts in recovery but always perfect in the end!
[HTC Wildfire S] :
Where can I download "wildfire s utility v1.0.7a" ?

The link does not work anymore. It may have expired.

If anyone can help me, I would appreciate it.

Thank you in advance.
[HTC Wildfire S] josans:
good job

good job
[HTC Wildfire S] archstanton2013:
The link for the English version works perfectly...
[HTC Wildfire S] operator 3:
All links are working properly.
[HTC Wildfire S] Grorbabrag:
Thank you so much for this wonderful utility, it made the rooting process so much easier. Really a great tool overall.

(Not to bug you or anything, but it's spelled activity, not "activitie" in the OP. It's really not a big deal or anything, though it helps in presenting your awesome tool :good:)
[HTC Wildfire S] nepas:
Many thanks for this tool,worked perfectly.
[HTC Wildfire S] htcwfsjj:
1st Post 1st Android 1st time Rooting phone

Hi brother

i am Jahanzeb

dear brother i am a poor guy and i have got HTC wildfire S

i saw whole year on internet about the rooting thing... people doing it every where

i want to do it

i want to root my htc wildfire s for only 1 reason . MAKE MORE SPACE

dear brother i was not able to do this bcz i dont want to lose my mobile as bricked

but i saw ur this thread and utility i thought to do it... i made account here and came to ask to u to help me from A to Z.

if you can guide me from start to end and help me to completly root my phone safely ill b thankful to u all my life. waiting for your reply.

for you 1 info : i have downloaded he utility which is showing viruses win32:malware-Gen ... and yes my htc have all same number as you have told about in POWER KEY + VOL DOWN KEY....

(((((MARVEL PVT SHIP S-ON RL

HBOOT-1.09.0099 <<< This is the version of НВООТ!

MICROP-0451

RADIO-7.57.39.10M )))

i have same as this in my device.

help me please
[HTC Wildfire S] ardanai:
Wooooooooooooooooooooow

thanks boro

after year and year I can Root WFS with hboot 1.09.0099
[HTC Wildfire S] operator 3:
3.Turn off all antivirus and firewalls. (For example, Dr. Web, detects non-existent viruses in the compiled files, Trojan.Radmin.26 or Trojan.AVKill.15413. This should not bother you.

After all the antivirus programs need to report somekind of activity. :)

The latest version (1.0.7a) was used over 6500 times in all its varieties, without any virus problems.

For more help, read Quick Start Guide.
[HTC Wildfire S] kompi1987:
Thanks alot for this utility
[HTC Wildfire S] Rain_Saeid:
Thanx

i am testing your Work

very good work

tnx for sharing
[HTC Wildfire S] mokies:
:good:thank u soooooo much..now i able to root my wfs...thanks again..easy to use for newbie like me....:laugh:
[HTC Wildfire S] M-cerebro:
Thanx a lot O3. Yr effort making the program made our effort rooting device much easier.
[HTC Wildfire S] granpubah:
thanks for the guide
[HTC Wildfire S] Spitras:
i cant make it work, it doesnt do anything for me :(
[HTC Wildfire S] Kesselaar:
Yuss, Thanks so much.

Had so much trouble with trying to unlock this phone. Done now :)
[Galaxy Tab Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ngliphong:
Hi all,

I have to turn to asking this question because i tried searching for all help to no avail. My friend's galaxy tab have been having a serious battery indication issues. We tried a few roms, the Stock ROM, Overcome 9.1, AOKP Milestone 6 and MIUI.

What happens is that the battery charges full but when plugged out immediately falls to 75%. Upon using to near 40% it shuts off.

When we reboot it, the battery indication is different always.

We tried clearing the battery data, clearing battery voltage, switching off the tab and charging it, press and hold power and the screen all to no avail.

Anyone encounter similar issues?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] grof1985:
Is there any iGo.apk with resolution 540x960?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cgigate:
iGo sucks on any non-800x480 device ...

I am using Naviton, it is automatically fit any resolution.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] grof1985:
thanks for info...

but i need good map for Serbia, don`t know how Naviton solved it.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] hamdimo:
it's Navigon :)

and here's a link for (i think ) the latest version 4.6

Few people know this app and it's the best i've ever seen in GPS navigation.

after installing, you should have wifi enabled, the app starts registration, then it asks you to choose between PC or WiFi, here choose wifi cuz it's easier, the app downloads around 500 Mb (app data)

when this is finished, it asks you for the maps you want, Serbia maps are only 10Mb :)

hit thanks if it's working
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] guest_2011:
i copied iGO from another phone 800x480 and it's almost perfect. Was too small in N4 but for L9 i'm happy with the way it looks. Navigon and Sygic also look good. Seems like iGO is the only one non-multi res.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] chicguy:
CoPilot works for my L9, my version is CoPilot Live USA btw.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cgigate:
CoPilot is a horrible app
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] chicguy:
Care to elaborate?

For me, CoPilot is a backup solution, I still prefer my Tomtom in the car. With my playing around with CoPilot, it looks nice.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Selavi4all:
give ur messenger id and i give apk for igo

google search:P

:p

vaje rachija
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] artifex21:
Javi mi se na pp i dacu ti link za igo primo sa mapom balkana
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cmahendra:
English please.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] artifex21:
Sorry for foreign language...I said send me a private message and ill give you the igo primo link for l9
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] Selavi4all:
sry man! vaje rachija=good scotch :)
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cgigate:
could I get private link as well ?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] artifex21:
@Up i sent you a pm
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cgigate:
thank you
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] nenadj:
http://hr.rec.gps.narkive.com/tLLZIPXk/igo-myway-v8-4-3-179971-thin-v1-7-960x540

http://uploaded.net/file/gfom0gxm
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MigueLampreia:
My x10 is locked on sony ericsson logo, and when i try to rapir with sony pc companion, it says no software available to my phone, already tried to install other kernel but says that my bootloader is locked.

Please Help me, i need my phone back
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wo88les:
Use Seus not pc companion

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/tools/update-service/
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] daniel.sanx10:
And another issue.

Whitch kind of videos is best for the J??

Hd? Mp4 HD? Mp4 720p?

Becase the firmware video is awersome, but i cant find the same format for this quality.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ARVolutionz:
well you can enhance the quality (not resolution). if you are interested see my thread here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2121645
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] x10amin:
Just share my experience although mine is Xperia Miro.

The device is capable to hardware decode PSP MP4 video(480P), H264 Main Profile @3.0.

720P videos that required software decoding are varies from case to case, it maybe smooth or lag if the video bitrate is high.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] theParanoid04:
If by firmware video you mean the 'Xperia HD Landscapes' video, it was encoded at 854x480 resolution in baseline profile with a good bitrate.

In my opinion, the best settings are the same used in the landscape video.

Main profile skips frames at a high bitrate. So don't use the main profile.

And regarding HD videos, J relies on software decoding which in truth is not enough. So even if you try HD videos, go for a low bitrate.
[LG Optimus G (International)] Blijader:
When i try to root my phone i get this error's:

android 4.0.3

DON'T TOUCH THE DEVICE OR UNPLUG WHILE ROOTING!
PUSH FILES
* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *
* daemon started successfully *
failed to copy 'busybox' to '/data/local/busybox': Permission denied
failed to copy 'su' to '/data/local/su': Permission denied
failed to copy 'Superuser.apk' to '/data/local/Superuser.apk': Permission denied

Unable to chmod /data/local/busybox: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /data/local/su: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /data/local/Superuser.apk: No such file or directory
failed on '/data/local/tmp' - Permission denied
link failed File exists
mount: Operation not permitted
mount: Operation not permitted
/system/bin/sh: cannot create /system/xbin/busybox: Read-only file system
Unable to chmod /system/xbin/busybox: No such file or directory
/system/bin/sh: /system/xbin/busybox: not found
/system/bin/sh: busybox: not found
/system/bin/sh: busybox: not found
Unable to chmod /system/xbin/su: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /system/xbin/su: No such file or directory
Unable to chmod /system/app/Superuser.apk: No such file or directory
rm failed for /data/local.prop, No such file or directory
rm failed for /data/local/tmp, Permission denied
failed on '/data/local/tmp.bak' - No such file or directory

REBOOT

i have try it whit the apk file but it doesn't work to....

Please anybody help me
[LG Optimus G (International)] Blijader:
No body pleae i want to root my phone i try root.bat and IS11LG_System Backup Test.signed.apk but nothing work's

i just have update my phone when i get him but now i can't root him pleasee help
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] H4rryTipp3r:
I wasn't sure and wanted to be absolute before doing it. If I go into file explorer and delete the apk for sprint bloat apps will that mess anything up? such as sprint id, nascar and all that...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] H4rryTipp3r:
yes? no?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] patrao_n:
Why dont you look at calkulins bloat removet or kobridges. It will give you an idea of what can go. If you delete the wrong thing you will need to reflash. So without knowing exactly what you are removing I will just say nandroid first and find out

sent from MY BAD A$$ ET4G
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] H4rryTipp3r:
where would I find those
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] patrao_n:
Find calkulins rom and it should be in the first post. Same with kobridge. Or you can go to google and search something like calkulin et4g bloatware xda

sent from MY BAD A$$ ET4G
[General Questions and Answers] buenso80:
Hello dear friends

I´m a danish student but need a .edu mail address with access to the mailbox. So far I´ve tried australia.edu (but found out that it has been closed for new subscribers for years). Then I tried californiacolleges and maricopa but both of ´em does not give access to an email inbox (trust me, I´ve tried for hours, and found out that many others have the same problem).

Is there a kind soul out there, who are willing to help me get an .edu mail ? Please PM me if you can help. Thanks in advance
[General Questions and Answers] Pennycake:
I know this is overly-simple, but can you request one from the school you do attend ?
[General Questions and Answers] buenso80:
Thanks for the answer. Unfortunately my school (or other schools here in dk) does not have .edu mails. Although I have got a friend in the US, but she has not been studying there.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] RndmSmpl:
Hi!

I have a question: If I'll update CWM do I have to do it the exact same way that I have installed it before? Or is there an other option to do the update? Something special that I have to be aware of?

I'm currently using CWM 6.0.23 and want to update to 6.0.27. I'm pretty new to Andriod phones, so please excuse the potentially silly question.
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] Kreaz:
Well, do it the same way as you installed it before. (Both Terminal/ADB or ODIN)
[Samsung Galaxy W I8150] RndmSmpl:
Thanks!

That's just what I needed to know.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] marzi85:
HELP!! I rooted and flashed my HTC One XL with CyanogenMod 10 and no matter what ROM i put on my screen is not responding at all. The power and volume buttons are working but thats all Please help!!

Kind Regards

Peter
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sembre:
Its problem with your kernel

Please use other kernel suppported with your phone

Flaash via cwm
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] marzi85:
This might seem like a dumb question, if so i appoligise but how to i find a kernel supported for my phone?
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sembre:
May be this rom will worked on your phone

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2076361
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] marzi85:
and that it did, just flashed it and seems to be working well. so far so good. Thank YOU!!
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] sembre:
Do not just say thanks but hit thanks button :rolleyes::rolleyes::(:D:D
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] iElvis:
This is a known bug. If you're on the newest firmware, you can only use Sense JB roms. Anything else, the touchscreen will not work.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
I'm new to the XDA Forum so please pardon me if I ask too many stupid questions. I have an hTc Explorer which was running Explode^1. Then I wanted to run Sense 4 but it needed an EXT-4 partition. I used MIni-Tool Partition Wizard to do so, but my phone refuses to read EXT partitions. Its running FAT32 perfectly. I tried this with 3 different SD cards (all class 4's) and the problem persists. Can anybody help me please?:)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shree alwaz:
I don't think its phone problem. Do one thing partition ua card thru recovery. Cz it creates ext partition.

Typing in swift key3 from tiny explorer with ICS
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] Parth_14:
Refuses to read ext? Can u clarify?? Didn't get u!!:confused:

I mean what error are u getting and where ?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] bid4sumit:
....

he might be getting error mounting sd ext in recovery(mounts and storage)

what recovery are you on...???
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
Thank you! I tried that and it's working perfectly! Thanks mate :)
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shree alwaz:
No need to post thanks. Jus hit dat button

Typing in swift key3 from tiny explorer with ICS
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
After I partitioned my sd, I popped it back into my phone. It kept saying "error mounting sd card". I thought the problem had beem solved but then I recalled that it wasn't ext 2, 3 or 4. :(
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shishir1990:
Which recovery are you using?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
CWM 5.0.2
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shree alwaz:
How ua makin partitions thru recovery or mini tool ??

Typing in swift key3 from tiny explorer with ICS
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
I tried them both. With mini tool, it says that the SD card can't be mounted. When.I do it via recovery, then there's an EXT 3 and a fat 32 partition made.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shree alwaz:
Then make it ext3. Ext3 us best.

Typing in swift key3 from tiny explorer with ICS
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] bid4sumit:
CMW has error mounting the ext partition..

so better switch to yannos recovery or twrp...coz on CMW you wont be able to mount ext partition..

yanoos recovery is basically CMW with ext partition support...

Change ur recovery...Problem solved

stop posting multiple threads with same problem http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2131274
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shishir1990:
Is it by Yannou90?.. If yes, i think it supports ext3...and go to advanced>Partition sd card to make an ext3 partition...

If it is not, then flash CWM recovery by yannou90 or TWRP 2.2

CWM is buugy...it won't detect your sd-ext..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
Tried both

Both. First tried min tool now recovery, no change..
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shishir1990:
Buddy...Use CWM by yannou90 or TWRP... and create a partition after flashing any of the two..

Basic CWM is buggy and its unable to see or mount sd-ext...
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] shree alwaz:
+1..

i had yannou90 recovery.. i had face no problems.. try this recovery.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] saadahmeddar:
I'll try and anyway thnx for telling me
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] radiotrib:
I'm inthe same boat .. I've used gparted, miitool TWRP and Yannous updated recovery .. all fail one way or another with NextGen ...

m2sd log gives me this

v/Initiating Mounts2SD (v:4.6.2) [Sun Apr 28 21:10:38 GMT 2013]
v/Checking configurations...
v/Optimizing /system readahead...
v/Disabling /system atime,diratime and enabling relatime...
v/Optimizing /data readahead...
v/Disabling /data atime,diratime and enabling relatime...
v/Waiting for sdcard to initiate...
v/sdcard found at /dev/block/mmcblk0...
v/Setting sdcard readahead to 512kb...
v/Running e2fsck on sd-ext...
e/Error detected while checking sd-ext. Everything was left uncorrected!
v/Disabling sd-ext atime,diratime and enabling relatime...
e/Error while mounting the sd-ext partition!
v/Performing a one time permissions check...
v/Mounts2SD has been loaded!

Registered properties:
----------------------
[mounts2sd.sdext.device]: [/dev/block/mmcblk0p2]

Mount Points:
-------------
Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on
tmpfs 209.0M 64.0K 208.9M 0% /dev
tmpfs 209.0M 0 209.0M 0% /mnt/asec
tmpfs 209.0M 0 209.0M 0% /mnt/obb
tmpfs 8.0M 0 8.0M 0% /app-cache
/dev/block/mtdblock6 10.0M 3.5M 6.5M 35% /devlog
/dev/block/mtdblock3 235.3M 210.8M 24.4M 90% /system
/dev/block/mtdblock5 150.0M 134.8M 15.2M 90% /data
/dev/block/mtdblock4 59.0M 2.3M 56.7M 4% /cache

e2fsck gives me this:

e2fsck -ycfv /dev/block/mtdblock0p2
e2fsck 1.41.11 (14-Mar-2010)
e2fsck: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/block/mtdblock0p2

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem. If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
e2fsck -b 8193 <device>

Round and round in circles and never getting an ext partition to mount .. only got it once, and that failed on boot using a different ROM which installed directly into sd-ext

Any ideas ?
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] theevilpotato:
What's your partition size? Make a fat32 partition and an ext partition. Note: the ext partition should NOT exceed 2gb as it cannot be read in most cases then. My issue was solved by reducing partition size.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] radiotrib:
I have theFat partition at the top of the partition table, and I've tried it with a 1GB and a 2GB ext partition formatted as ext2, 3 and 4 ..

I've formatted it using Yannous extension of CM Recovery, TWRP (various versions), minitool on windows and gparted on ubuntu. I've cleaned by hand an superwiped .. I've tried multiple versions f busybox .. and I've reflashed it 20 or more times with NextGen (amongst others) ...

In sheer desperation I've even used the mount2sd software from Google Play and formatting it as fat/fat32 to see if mounting it as a vfat would help ..

none of them work. I've also tried it on 3 different SD cards !!

I always get the e2fsck error ...

Next step is for me to try realigning the partitions .. e.g. making the fat partition 4 Gb and the ext 1gb to see if there are hard errors at the higer end of the card.
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] radiotrib:
So I went and bought a nice, new 32Gig class 6 card and partitioned it 4Gb ext3 and 256Mb swap ... rebooted, and mounts2sd moved everything round and delivered me a 4Gb "internal" memory

And those cheap Chinese 8Gig "Kingston" cards are going in the reserve box to be abused by my various Arduinos !!!

Now to try and see if a sense4 rom will work :)

... Happy bunny !!!
[HTC Pico (Explorer)] :
Reply from a Noob :P

Maybe your ROM does not support EXT4 partition...? :confused:
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiragvagh:
I am using stock .587 fw in my pro.

In system folder I cant find .odex file. So I think it is deodex file structure.

But which is better odex or deodex, for system performance and speed.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kajendran:
All stock firmwares are odex

Odex is good for speed and performance...

Deodex is good for moding and theming.....

:)
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chiragvagh:
But in system folder I cant find .odex file. Which is this file structure then?

as I told, I am using stock .587 fw with locked bootloader.
[Xperia Arc Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SXUsr:
It's obvious which it is.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] chrisl95111:
How do i wipe the data and basically factory reset my YP-GI1 device?
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] Johann12911:
Should be in settigns, search around for it. Also, if you have ClockWorkMod flashed onto your device, then go into it, and do a factory reset and it will do just that.
[Samsung Galaxy Player 4.0, 5.0] ChaosChris:
We dont have cwm for the 4.2 yet. But you can co into recovery and wipe data oer you can go into the settings and factory reset your device
[Sony Xperia P, U, Sola, Go] srprashant91:
Hi

just wondering if anyone of you working on a firefox os port for the xperia p/u/go/sola. If not is there some tutorial regarding the porting process. Since im not sure if we would get a working cm10/10.1 or not, we may also have to look at other avenues options too.