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[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Interesting. If the leak is real and VZW hobbles the memory to 16GB again that would suck. How on earth would they position both phones in their line up?

Verizon's HTC M7 could come to life as a Droid DNA refresh

New details suggest that Big Red may offer the rumored HTC M7 as an updated Droid DNA.

by Scott Webster | February 4, 2013 1:55 PM PST

Verizon may soon debut a refreshed version of the HTC Droid DNA smartphone, according to newly uncovered details leaked by software developer and HTC insider @LlabTooFeR.

Hardware specifications for a model known as DLXPLUS suggest that the nation's largest wireless provider could be readying a device with details that are not unlike the rumored HTC M7.

The hardware list points to an Android Jelly Bean device with Sense 5.0, a 4.7-inch 1080p display, a 13-megapixel camera, and a quad-core 1.7GHz Snapdragon S4 processor. Said to also have 2GB RAM and 16GB internal storage, the DLXPLUS has all the makings of an M7.

The Droid DNA, for its part, was known by the code name of DLX in the months leading up to announcement.

Interestingly enough, Verizon is not thought to be one of the carrier getting ready to offer HTC's flagship smartphone. Perhaps Big Red wants some breathing room between the Droid DNA and the next big HTC thing.

Another explanation for this fork is that AT&T, Sprint, and T-Mobile will carry the M7 under a single name, while Verizon bucks the trend with its own version. Logic suggests that the DLXPLUS could be to the Droid DNA what the HTC One X+ is for AT&T's current model. In other words, a beefier, more powerful experience with the same outward appearance. But so soon?

Given just how new the Droid DNA is, I find the scenario of an upcoming M7 competitor potentially confusing to customers. One of the Droid DNA's key selling points is its 5-inch display, something that neither the M7 or DLXPLUS is expected to offer. Will buyers view this as an upgrade if it has a smaller screen? Will Verizon cannibalize sales of the HTC Droid DNA smartphone?

Let's hope that some of this is cleared up come February 19, when HTC takes the stage to unveil its next superphone.​

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_...m7-could-come-to-life-as-a-droid-dna-refresh/
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Verizon is retarded if they do that.
[HTC Droid DNA] jlevy73:
On the anandtech benchmark for retards, Verizon scored a perfect 10 :cyclops:
[HTC Droid DNA] TechSavvy2:
Do you know what the meaning of flagship is? Its their top of the line device. The m7 equals or beats everything the DNA has to offer. How is that not a flagship? Nobody cares about "droid" branding........the only thing that encompasses is the obnoxious droid sound along with some red accents. Yes, the accents are nice but I'm not buying a phone based on that at all. The DNA is in the incredible series? Are you drunk? Sorry, but not in the same league because it has better specs? Regarding S-off.....have you ever owned an HTC device without sd card? FYI, not a single HTC phone EVER produced without an sd card has gotten s-off yet.....

Sorry for the rant but there wasn't any facts in any of that.....

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Good thing nobody quoted you........because the m7 has NEITHER the removable battery OR the sd card.....
[HTC Droid DNA] tofumaniac:
A better battery life good enough reason for the M7
[HTC Droid DNA] vdChild:
Riiiight.... Because battery life sticks on this phone...
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
You yourself said that you don't have any SOD's or heat problems so what do you think? As long as you aren't getting boot loops either then you should be just fine.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
If this news is true, I don't even see why anyone would buy the DNA at this point: Verizon's HTC M7 could come to life as a Droid DNA refresh - http://pulse.me/s/icnHV

If true, it means that HTC has already moved on from the DNA. And if you don't have the DNA yet, it would be foolish not to just wait a bit and get the M7 instead.
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
Well this is interesting. I haven't bought a DNA yet so i hope this phone, the "DNA+", will be ready at launch on Feb 19. Has the no SD card thing been confirmed or anything? all just speculations? It'd be awesome to get CM on whichever phone i get so *hopes up* :)
[HTC Droid DNA] orangechoochoo:
Verizon is being stupid. They should've let the Butterfly be the DNA, but they told HTC to hold back a few things. Now they release an "improved" version with marginally better battery and possibly better camera (it is not 13mp but a three layer sensor or something like that).
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
That's actually an interesting twist. It was pretty much assumed HTC would use the new 13MP Exmor RS sensor just released like everyone else. They are going their own way and using three layered 4.3MP sensors each dedicated to red/blue/green individually like a Nokia PureView hybrid. Samsung uses Sony sensors so the SGS4 will probably have Exmor RS. It'll be interesting to see which of the two approaches delivers the best stills and videos.

It takes at least six months to develop a new device so there was overlap between the Butterfly and M7. While we're confused HTC had to have known their positioning strategy for the two devices all along. If you think about it, if the Japanese carriers and VZW both wanted HTC to build a 1080P phone for their markets there's more than enough volume between the two to justify whipping one up. So it may have always been a carrier-sponsored device that HTC just decided to milk since the costs were already covered to launch it in the Asian countries and pick up some incremental sales until the M7 arrived.

To your point, February 19th is only two weeks away and VZW's plans (if any) for the M7 will be known then so it makes sense to wait.
[HTC Droid DNA] NSammut:
I hate big companies . They always get you with their newest thing, but then invent another thing only a few months later
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
That's just how technology works. It had nothing to do with 'big' companies. Newer technology is always in the works.
[HTC Droid DNA] the_passenger:
so if the rumor is true then model for new phone would be HTC6440LVW instead of HTC6435LVW for the Droid DNA. :D

dang, and it has microSD card support. Anyone wanna buy my 99% new DNA ?
[HTC Droid DNA] NSammut:
Haha I was just thinking about this, I heard the s4 coming out is supposed to be pretty sweet too.. But whatever, already unlocked and everything might as well as keep it

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They definitely a hold the newer model back so people get sucked into the old one then make evn more money on the newer one
[HTC Droid DNA] jlevy73:
You keep forgetting about one very small market, China. I know the population of 1.3 billion, and the largest buyers of smartphone's is easy to overlook at times :p

China Unicom wanted to add a 1080p android device to their lineup as the decline of iPhone and the huge demand for Android has been a suprising twist. China Unicom wanted it to be released the same time as the J Butterfly went on sale but the Chinese Government has quite a number of hurdles for OEM's to jump through so it got delayed. There is rumors that China Mobile might pick up the M7 but their home grown version of CDMA has been a royal pain in the butt. The SGS3 on china mobile is still on ICS because JB is unstable when combined with TD-CDMA. China mobile has targeted a March release of JB for the SGS3 but getting reliable information from carriers here is like hoping for rain in the Sahara.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
HTC has 2% market share in China and there's no shortage of high-end choices available like the Oppo Find 5 which costs less. I didn't forget China, it's going to take HTC years (if at all) to become a serious player there. Consider that Samsung only has 26% market share after years in the market and enormous investment in partnerships. HTC saying they want to sell phones in China and selling them there in large quantities are two different things. You do business there so know how complicated navigating the market is. And the glacial pace that things move at when the Chinese are dealing with foreigners that directly compete with hometown companies.
[HTC Droid DNA] BFBCIE2:
I want to run my dna at 1.7. How would you upgrade it to 1.7?
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Install a kernel who h lets you overclock and use one of the bagillion apps on the market to overclock to 1.7.
[HTC Droid DNA] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
The flagship is the "One" devices. Ex. One x one s one v. The droid htcs are not flagship. HTC homepage had a one x+ on it. One series is flagship
[HTC Droid DNA] BFBCIE2:
Is this procedure expensive and/or hard to do? I don't really know how to do it so instructions would be greatly appreciated.
[HTC Droid DNA] jlevy73:
Here's a good place to review what's required: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1748297
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Are you rooted?
[HTC Droid DNA] BBEgo:
It's a pretty safe bet he isn't rooted.

Sent from my HTC DNA
[HTC Droid DNA] BFBCIE2:
No I am not rooted. What is root and How would you root the dna and is it required or can u do it unrooted?
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
You cannot change new kernel without rooting, and you cannot overclock without a custom kernel for this device. Here is a pretty nice guide to summarize most of the process. I would suggest you do more reading than just this so you know what to do in case something happens and so you know exactly what you are doing. :) http://goo.gl/ZVurY
[HTC Droid DNA] curryinaninstant:
So is it worth it then to buy a DNA now on Verizon or should I want to upgrade my droid x2 for the M7?
[HTC Droid DNA] globalgpj:
If I were you I would just wait for the final specs & design features of the M7 to come out, then decide.

Only you can decide what is really important ultimately in a device.
[HTC Droid DNA] Kasab:
Like global said, you might as well wait the next week and just see the final specs of the M7. The other question is whether Verizon will get the M7 at all. From the rumors, I personally would probably go with the M7 but nothing is official anyways right now.
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
Don't worry about it. Just follow everything carefully and i think there is a IRC that can help you if you do run into any trouble. you got this! I don't believe in paying to root my phone...read guide and follow carefully. good luck. :D

I'm personally waiting to get my phone. If the HTC logo is at the bottom of the phone where the buttons are suppose to be...I dont' think i'll get it even if the specs are better. Only way to not regret waiting is to wait and decide once specs are final. You should however note that it might take a while for it to get out for Verizon... patience in the answer young one ;D hahaha
[HTC Droid DNA] Ianxcom:
Doubt Verizon gets the m7 any time soon if at all. If it did I would expect the htc home logo to be replaced with Verizon. I would expect Q3.
[HTC Droid DNA] MrHarryBino:
The HTC m7, while and black a capable device, is not in the same league as the dna.

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HTC M7 vs Xiaomi phone 2 :fingers-crossed:
[HTC Droid DNA] MissionImprobable:
As people have said elsewhere if they get it, it will be akin to the D3 to Bionic, RAZR to RAZR MAXX. That said, it would be a hell of an upgrade. Better battery, stereo speakers, tons more memory.
[HTC Droid DNA] ystasino:
One diseagreement, the M7 looks a lot like an iPhone 5, and I think that might deter some Android users. Two clarifications, I don't think that outdoors visibility on the DNA is bad and there are a couple of custom ROMs that do wonders with the existing battery. I agree with everything else you wrote.
[HTC Droid DNA] ryanalan82:
for being so smart ur post is horribly wrong. I'm only chiming in cause I was waiting for HTC to get closer to showing the phone and what the future variant will be for the Sprint eVo line. The DNA was the first release of this M7 phone, Which also means it will be the worst version. I know I'm in a DNA thread but u guys here are just being bias. Sorta how I am with the eVo, but the difference is the eVo is what should be a bit later release on Sprint and have better features which puts it at the top of the new HTC line. As this has been the case the past couple yrs now. Look at last yrs one x. That came out just a month before the eVo 4g lte, but the eVo is at the top of that line. Got the best version with all features, and no horrible tegra 3 chip that some got stuck with. I'm not totally sure but the M7 will probably have the snapdragon 600 and the eVo would probably have the 800.

Swyped from my eVo
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Yes, a phone that will probably come out 6 months after the DNA should be better than the DNA...
[HTC Droid DNA] Hussainally:
Like a bawwsss
[HTC Droid DNA] kyogiro:
M7 is coming with latest Qualcomm SoC, the S600 which is, according to Qualcomm, 40% faster than the S4 Pro.

Anyway, can't wait for a photo comparison.

M7 has just been unveiled : http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_goes_official_1080p_screen_quad-news-5566.php
[HTC Droid DNA] Serinety:
For all the people who said the m7 (htc one) has a removable battery and an sd card.

Nope.

It's a dna, with a better camera, sense 5, smaller screen, and an aluminum construction (which looks bad ass)
[HTC Droid DNA] Ace42:
+ S600 + dual speakers on front
[HTC Droid DNA] Serinety:
point is, there were a ton of people slamming the DNA in favor of the M7 due to the non-removable battery and lack of SD card slot. those same people are now going to claim that the battery isnt a big deal, and that they dont really need an SD card after all. We call those people "sheeple"
[HTC Droid DNA] Ace42:
Those things don't bother me. Non removable is the future. Game controllers, handhelds, tablets, phones, media players, etc are all moving to built in batteries.
[HTC Droid DNA] SnowKing25:
I don't know if it's because I just got my DNA less than a week ago, but the new HTC One doesn't seem like much of an upgrade. Yea it has a bigger battery, faster processor and "better" screen. Honestly, if the DNA isn't fast enough for you, you might need to check your priorities. Same with the screen, and my battery lasts me perfectly through the day, gonna be even better once I get root. And to boot, if you are on Verizon you can't get the One now anyway, so...
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Woosh. Right over your head. The One has a 2,300 mAh battery and either 32GB or 64GB of internal storage. It'll be the first HTC phone in recent history to not have paragraphs in reviews dedicated to weak batteries and undersized storage a category the DNA falls in to. On paper, what HTC's done with the dedicated RGB camera sensors, should make the One's camera superior to anything available. It's also got better sound with dual front facing speakers. And S-600 is quite a step up from the current S4 Pro and it's fantastic for HTC that they got to be the launch vendor with the One. The only negative between the One and DNA is the 3/10's smaller display which, to a lot of people that don't like big phones, could actually be seen as a benefit.

The DNA/Butterfly was always a niche device and now that the One is out that's where all HTC's global attention will be placed. This is of course irrelevant to VZW users as they don't have a choice anyway.
[HTC Droid DNA] dahmmy:
I had the Amoled desire from launch until it died on me last week.....(good timing)

From htc all i wanted was better Sound and bigger battery....dont need 5" plus screen 4.7 is perfect.....

Unless Samsung drop da bomb then this is the "ONE" im getting...
[HTC Droid DNA] RockTripod:
Confused

Um, the DNA is impressive, and I am extremely happy with it. That being said, the M7 is in virtually every respect a more impressive device. OC'ed CPU, slightly smaller and therefore higher DPI screen, improved camera, larger storage and battery. How is it not in the same league as the DNA? I'm not trying to argue, just curious if there is something I'm missing. It seems the M7 is without doubt there top product.
[HTC Droid DNA] Orion575:
It doesn't have an SD card, but it will come in two versions, 32Gb and 64Gb
[HTC Droid DNA] germanmafia88:
I think it is a solid upgrade, and if it was available on Verizon I would probably have gotten it instead of the DNA for 3 reasons:

1) It looks better (better build quality maybe)

2) 16GB more storage

3) Larger battery

That being said it's not even available on Verizon not to mention we get the large screen. Our devices are very comparable, the One is just slightly refined. Most of us probably appreciate HTC so it is good to see them thrown out some cool stuff to compete with the Galaxy S4.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ace42:
It's SoC is the S600...That thing is significantly faster than the S4 Pro according articles. The DNA or any similar device can't keep up in fluidity.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dri94:
i know its more about real world then benchmarks, but thought this would interest someof you benchmark fenatics

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/preliminary-benchmarks-of-the-new-htc-one/
[HTC Droid DNA] the_passenger:
I love everything about the M7 except the lack of the recent/menu button.

Btw, Verizon users will probably get an upgraded DNA in Q3 with the S800.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ianxcom:
Edit...
[HTC Droid DNA] tornado75:
R: Question HTC M7 vs HTC DROID DNA...

You think DNA/butterfly can be upgraded to new Sense 5.0??

Inviato dal mio ZP950ZOPOMOBILE.IT con Tapatalk 2
[HTC Droid DNA] globalgpj:
You just have to double tap on the home button and the recent apps appear in a multi thumbnail framed format.
[HTC Droid DNA] BarryH_GEG:
Here's something to think about. The One's casing is indeed 100% aluminum. In every previous attempt by a manufacturer to use an all-aluminum housing the result was disastrous for wireless reception. That includes antenna-gate on the Sensation which only had a partial aluminum body. Looking at the casing HTC's either going to try to get a signal through it or the antennas will have to be forward facing to get through the glass front panel. Neither is a recipe for great and/or consistent wireless reception. It'll be interesting to see how the One does once it's tested by sites like GSMArena and Anandtech.
[HTC Droid DNA] globalgpj:
Good One !

Boy, you would think they would have checked that one out after their last experience and the iphone4 which did tarnish their reputation after users found that signals were being lost and calls dropping out, left, right and center. And that was only for a metal side strip that was interferring with the radios. That would be disaterous for a struggling HTC.

Thanks for pointing this out. I will definetely be waiting for users reviews before taking the plunge on this one, which I was very keen to do so.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dri94:
All you guys need do to get signal on a phone is cough up forty dollars for a bumper case. And remember if it still doesn't work. Your holding it wrong
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
The people who don't think the One is a significant upgrade are in severe denial. Which often happens when you buy a phone that you are stuck with for 2 years. You need to keep telling yourself everything else isn't much better. It's just the way humans and the brain work.
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
It's obviously better than the dna, but its really not that significant of an upgrade to the dna.
[HTC Droid DNA] WizeGuyDezignz:
How so? Better cpu, better screen (supposedly), more storage, bigger battery, better camera (supposedly) and better software/ui (supposedly), better build quality (supposedly) and it looks sexier. Isn't that most of what makes up a phone?

I'm just bummed it's not coming for Verizon. I would have been all over it.
[HTC Droid DNA] atishpatel2012:
Great device, and if you are not using Verizon, then you should totally get that over DNA. It is a great improvement. I personally would have liked a smaller 4.7" device, but ah well, stuck with Verizon. I'll probably get the DNA, but a bunch of phones are coming out soon like the G4 in a month or so. :)
[HTC Droid DNA] Bigandrewgold:
Yes, but all those things are just a little better. And sense 5 will come to the dna, so that's bit really an advantage.
[HTC Droid DNA] Ndaoud360:
Screen is the same but just higher ppi but won't be a visual difference you can spot. Also processor won't make a difference you can notice because there both real fast. Better software yes but were probably getting that via port. Better sound yes but with xloud and volume+ on the market they can really amp up your speakers quite nicely. Camera is not that much better. My friend got a test unit some how and we compared a picture we took and DNA was better but maybe because it was a test unit but still.

Yes everything is technically an upgrade in specs but most you won't notice a difference for most except for possible camera and sound.
[HTC Droid DNA] rfarrah:
...... and the look is NOT sexier than the DNA. (IMHO) :cool:
[HTC Droid DNA] jerrickdamon:
From what I've seen of the M7 I can tell I wouldn't like it at all...the tiling and live background would be annoying. The specs look great, don't get me wrong, the UI looks like scrap though. I'm pretty damn satisfies with the DNA and wouldn't trade it for anything.
[HTC Droid DNA] irockthebear:
The M7 will prally suck Vs S4 software & hardware... it doesn't even have wireless charging. +1 for DNA

I think the bezel on the DNA is thinner which is a plus for me.

Everything else is just slightly better M7.... If I could choose one or the other (for no cost) I would take the M7 but not worth it to upgrade.

IMHO the DNA looks more badass, the M7 looks more refined.
[HTC Droid DNA] Maedhros:
CPU = Yes, slight upgrade. however the M7 does not have DDR3 ram as expected, which means it isn't very likely to have a GPU bump. Check GL benches for reference.

Screen = Supposedly the same, just higher density

Camera = Not necessarily, same pics seem to be decent, but worth the downgrade from 8mp? I duno

Better software = Isn't the DNA getting sense 5?

I would say, overall, the DNA and M7 are on equal footing. The larger screen size on the DNA is a pretty big advantage over the M7, not to mention The DNA has been available since December? We wont see the M7 for another 2 months.

So the DNA will be King for 6 months, and then close (VERY CLOSE) second for another 6, maybe longer.

All in all, if I had purchased the DNA in December, I would have ZERO regrets and ZERO urges to upgrade to the M7.

Disclaimer: all this coming from a future M7 owner.
[HTC Droid DNA] Dri94:
The new chip will provide a big gpu boost. Even bigger cpu boost

Camera does need more tests

Most likely 4.2 but sense 5 is wildky in the air

Not same footing at all. And remember the dna wont be king or close smwithin a year. Each company is rekeasing a behemoth spec phone this ywar
[HTC Droid DNA] Maedhros:
Big GPU boost? Where is this coming from? GL Benchmark is putting both devices on even footing (34fps both). Source??

The M7 won't be king in a year either.

My point was that the DNA is going to be 6 months old by the time the M7 comes out. For a 6month old device, it has very comparable specs to devices being released this year.
[General Questions and Answers] damian5000:
Anyone can recommend the ROM with the best battery conservation and stability for JiaYu G2 MTK6577?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] UchihaDareNial:
Well,I try to connect my External Hard Disk and it doesn't work...I got a notification stated that it's empty or unsupported thing like that...how can I fix it?

Plus,I try to plug in my usb controller,I got a notification stated too much power consumption :crying: how can I connect my controller?

Thank you for every help that you guys give to me,I'll never forget it...