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[Nexus 4 General] dioadi:
Yaps, I've tried that. Mirage is pretty much like updated stock kernel. And actually now I'm just switching between mirage and hellscore.

I install which ever got updated most recent. Now using hellscore because last update is 6 april. Mirage last update is 2 april. Silly method of choosing kernel actually but because I find those two are the best for me lol.

Using hellscore or mirage, if only on wifi I can easily go through a day with sot 5 hours or more. Default setting.

On full 3g will go on something like 3 hours sot and total life of 17-22 hours.

These condition, of course, apply for my pattern of usage (few calls, medium browsing n socmed, heavy IM, etc). Most likely different with each of us :)
[Nexus 4 General] pramyhoga:
It's 5hrs Maybe about 20% using cellular data.

I'm happy with this 5hrs because i used to be got only 3hrs before change rom and kernel.

:)
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Unlike you, i have no privilege to be always on wifi coverage, so 3 hours in 3g is great for me.
[Nexus 4 General] Kaka88:
I got 4h+ SOT with 3g and playing candy crush so much..

I'm using PLSX ROM with PSX kernel (kernel that include in PLSX ROM..

The battery life just amazing!

I have using MiRaGe and Hells Doctor, but PSX kernel is great!
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
UC? Autosync off?
[Nexus 4 General] Kaka88:
I'm running ART, UC, Autosync off..

Im on 3G and playing game much (about 1h 40m) and browsing..
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Well done mate!
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
As expected. Thanks mate.
[Nexus 4 General] Kaka88:
You're welcome
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Check out Google Camera! ￼

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.GoogleCamera
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
I havent, cause i use AOKP.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
I see,

Anyway, I've got it just now, after clearing Google framework data and force closing it a few times. And spamming the checking button. LOL.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Y U No download it from OTA link in general forum and download it manually, then flash it from recovery? Its as easy as rooting.

Or just download factory image from developer.google.com and flash it from fastboot?
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
Yeah I know.. Just wanna find out how OTA-ing feels like on a Nexus.. Wkwkwk.

You can, of course, download the OTA file directly from Google server and flash it with twrp.
[Nexus 4 General] kenansadhu:
That is if you had rooted your nexus 4.. Somehow i want to wait around a month before rooting. Just in case there are critical hardware problem on the device
[Nexus 4 General] sxp123731:
I work with cellular network vendor, not carrier

I know the details but its NDA :)
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
LOL if you have hardware failure or issue, simply unroot or flash factory image. Its easy and if you cant boot to bootloader because of that hardware issue, neither do they.

Btw rooting or unlocking bootloader MAY void your warranty, the statement clearly said MAY not WILL. :p
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
That's okay. But if you could shed some light on any general useful info that's not NDA, it would be super! (Just like what you said about the existence of priority 1)

That is correct. By rooting you MAY void warranty because rooting allows you to overclock and potentially damage the cpu. It's all grey area though, because one could easily unroot and relock bootloader with a few click of a button.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No, rooting wont allow you to overclock, unlocked bootloader does.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Dude, seriously?

Any overclocking app (SetCPU, any kernel app) requires root access to allow changing the clock speed.

Although, you'd need a custom kernel that support overclocking.

Unlocking bootloader gains you lower-level access to /recovery, /boot, /system partitions. An unlocked bootloader allows you to flash unsigned images (custom kernels for example) to the phone. An unlocked bootloader also allows you to install a custom recovery. And a custom recovery (TWRP or CWM) let you install custom ROM and custom kernels directly from your phone, without having to use fastboot commands from a PC. Those are the things an unlocked bootloader allows you to do.

I really don't understand your response.

These are the steps to do an overclock on the Nexus:

1. Unlock bootloader ----> According to you this step allows you to overclock.

2. Install a custom recovery

3. Flash a custom kernel that allows overclocking through the custom recovery or through fastboot

4. Install SetCPU or similar app

5. Install a superuser app (SuperSU or Superuser) ----> Essentially, this step is rooting, which allows you to overclock the CPU.

6. Allow root access to SetCPU and overclock that CPU.

You need both to overclock. But you have to give root access so the overclocking app works.

Therefore, my statement stands: rooting allows you to overclock.

Why did you say I'm wrong?
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
But you can root without unlocking bootloader, and you cant overclock it if you dont flash custom kernel. :)

I never said your statement is wrong, just to make it clear man :)

If you flash custom kernel, sure you need root access to modify it, but whats the point of unlocking bootloader without root or flashing custom kernel without root? :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
I don't know about you guys but I am using 3g (and H+) all day and I still get 20% battery at the end of the day. I'm probably unplugged 11-12 hours at a time. If you're having bad battery, try freezing Google Maps, disable gps, bluetooth and wifi when you don't need it. I am also running cyanogenmod nightlies which I update/flash nightly through delta updates. I love this device, i just wish it had 32gb of storage for my music.
[Nexus 4 General] rejanmanis:
Here as well.

If u really need those 3G signal.

Im waiting for Ubuntu to be ported here.

Will combine with dual boot.

Superb ...

You can use *#*#4636#*#* you can have WCDMA only.

It will make you stay at 3G signal.

BUT remember, you will have no service if you are out of service area.

There will be no 2G.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
If you force it to only receive 3G it will drain your battery faster, cause it will constantly searching for network. You have been warned :p

Dualboot is almost impossible in nexus device since it doesnt have eksternal SD which is required to do dual booting.

Someone already asked about it to Gokhan moral which is the developer who develop dual booting in Samsung devices. :(
[Nexus 4 General] nexo85:
Its so interesting that there is absolutely no shortage of nexus 4 devices in Jakarta. I just saw at lotte mart they are selling the 16gb nexus 4 for Rp 5,499,000 with 6 and 12 bulan cicilan! Thats like Rp 460,000 per month! And there is a cash back offer up to 1jt.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I bought it from Eraphone, they sell it for 5.499 million. Interestingly if you go to LG store they will say that they didnt have it yet.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
The shortage is not from LG production.

It was caused by Google's conservative estimation of the Nexus 4 demand.

This estimation was based on Samsung Galaxy Nexus' sales (which was abysmal).

Google orders on Nexus 4 (source):

October 2012, 70,000 units. (Sold out on November launch)

November 2012, 90,000 units. (Sold out on early December)

December 2012, 210,000 units. (Sold out on January sales)

January 2013, 1,000,000 units. (Begin selling in February, still in stock)

Of course, LG only supply Google as much as Google orders.

The deal between LG and Google allows LG to sell the Nexus 4 directly in countries where Google Play Store is not available (for example in Indonesia), because Google only sell the device on the following countries: US, UK, Germany, France, Australia, Japan, Spain, and Canada.

For the first 2 months, LG concentrate its production to fulfill Google orders. After the orders were met, LG keep on producing the Nexus 4 for their own sales. So, it's not a surprise to see that in Indonesia the Nexus 4 is available.

The reason why LG is selling the Nexus 4 at much higher price than Google is because Google doesn't expect profit in selling the phone.

For example, Bill of Material (BOM) for iPhone 5 16GB is $199, Samsung Galaxy S3 is $200, LG Optimus G is $200 (source). Of course, BOM prices does not reflect the real cost of producing the phones. The manufacturers has to pay for factory operation costs, setting up the molds in the machines, electricity, labor, R&D, advertising, etc.

Since the Nexus 4 is identical in specs to the LG Optimus G, it makes sense that Google takes a very small "gross profit" for the Nexus 4. This gross profit is then used for advertising, setting up distribution channels, cover for R&D of developing Jelly Bean for the Nexus 4, etc. It is safe to say that Google doesn't get much money from selling this device. Although it's okay for Google to do that, since it would benefit from Play Store sales and AdSense, LG can't afford this. Therefore, LG has to sell the Nexus 4 at much higher price.
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
Not true..

Nexus 7 can do dualboot, (even multi boot) both Android AND Linux.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=34577838

Ask Tasssadar if he can port his stuff to N⁴...
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Idk, but we will see, development for N4 is still on very early stage, but as a former galaxy nexus owner which is a lot of maguro owner demanding for dual boot i know it's too hard to be true, first we dont have micro sd nor native otg support, second lack of storage capacity. but don't lost hope ;)
[Nexus 4 General] riza_hakam:
this is update for default camera on nexus right? because when i open playstore it states update not install
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Yup, it is native app. I like it's blur feature.
[Nexus 4 General] Kaka88:
I've removed my old camera app and it can be installed..
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
I think you misunderstood what he said [emoji16]
[Nexus 4 General] Kaka88:
I don't know..

Maybe you're right..
[Nexus 4 General] iambamm08:
Greetings

Hello everyone, Indonesian too here ^^

Salam kenal semua :D
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Hi.. Glad to have you here..
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Guys. I'm out of the loop from rooting community since December 2013.

I'm looking for a custom ROM that is stable and has a LOT of customization. I'm disappointed when I know ParanoidAndroid KitKat doesn't have Halo and PA Settings. I tried installing it anyway and it doesn't feel like a custom ROM. Stock+Xposed offers more customization.

So, anybody can recommend me a great ROM? Please note, I don't like "slim" ROMs. I like tons of features and stability. I also like "big name" ROMs instead of unknowns.

I'm looking at OmniROM (does it have MultiWindow?), CyanogenMod, AOKP, PAC. Can anybody give a short summary of their latest version and it's killer features? It would save me tons of time trying it one by one.
[Nexus 4 General] dioadi:
Vanir has a lot of features, for me.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
First of all, accidentally press thanks button to your post.

Well, i always thought like this; heavily customable rom always has their own price/risk, mainly stability. If stability not comes as potential risk then why Google didn't create ones at the first place? But dunno, I'm quite satisfied with my current rom.
[Nexus 4 General] pramyhoga:
I agree that.

[MENTION=3382430]elzafir[/MENTION], u can still read the rom's thread at firts and some latest pages, sometimes u can found the one u found on that pages
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Unfortunately I'm only familiar with CM, AOKP, PA, PAC, and OmniROM.

Most other "smaller names" ROMs does not explain enough about how they differentiate with the bigger, more well known ROMs.

Therefore I ask you guys to share experience with other ROMs.
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Dude, Slimkat actually have a website explaining its features and stuff, go check it out at:

www.slimroms.net

As for other ROMs, you can check out their thread, they always list their features.

Sent from my blazing fast Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] pramyhoga:
Okay. For me just using Purity, with minimalist mod and great stability (never have FC om something wrong from the first flashing).

Just tips from me, u can sort by replies in Android development and u'll get the most active thread. The most active thread are the bigger name, at least for me :D
[Nexus 4 General] ditooberliann:
First I apologize if I make this question in wrong place,

Hay pal, I need some suggestion about my nexus

I have broken back glass, I've ask LG center at roxy and the price is 800.000 IDR

Its too expensive, and then I decide another solution

I search, search about back glass

And then I've found replacement on ebay only back glass not include case just glass.

The price its around 115.000 - 150.000 IDR

I interesting, but the problem is I never buy anything on ebay,so I doubt it will come or not.

I look seller feedback and its good, but I am not sure yet.

My question is, is there anyone known place in indonesia to buy only back glass replacement part ?

Or another solution to me ?

Thanks before guys.

*sorry for my bad english
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Don't know about back glass seller in Indonesia. Regarding ebay, i feel you bro, but as long the seller has good feedback i guess no worries lah. Had bought Ringke Fusion from Texas a while ago and it arrived safely.
[Nexus 4 General] ditooberliann:
Ok thx man for your answer

So the point its feedback on ebay.
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Dude, how do you buy stuff from eBay in Indonesia??
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
I don't quite follow your meaning, but if payment method was your meaning then PayPal.
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
Oh so through PayPal. Is it hard setting up a PayPal account?
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Using Visa, it's quite easy.
[Nexus 4 General] ditooberliann:
If you have BNI account, you can use Virtual Card Number (VCN)

Tested on me purchased gems coc at google play store
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
But don't you have to make a credit card for that? I'm still kinda scared on making one.

What coincidence, I just made one yesterday, woohoo! I'll try looking into it. But links would help. Or do I have to go to the bank to do that?

Edit: found it at http://www.bni.co.id/id-id/bnipromo...nedenganbnidebitonline/faqbnidebitonline.aspx

I'll try it out once I get my card, it takes a week to make one. Thanks a lot dude! :D
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Minal Aidin Wal Faidzin guys!!
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Happy Id Mubarak :)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 4 General] ghostbusted:
hi all .. happy holiday, btw anyone test the latest rastakat by lichty .. well i combine it with the latest franco kernel, the result was fantastic .. [emoji4]

Sent from my Nexus!
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Yup, r210 is great!!
[Nexus 4 General] iskandar1023:
How is the battery life?

SONE!!!
[Nexus 4 General] adichandra:
I miss my n4. You kno what i missed a lot? The vibration feel when typing on it. It feels deep and soft. I bought n5, note 3, and now htc one m8. The typing experience on the n4 is the best still. Anyone looking to sell their n4 here? Im interested to buy one, prefer the perfect condition without dent etc ?
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
It depends with your usage of course.

And i always turn off that feature, lol. With your current possessions and you still missed Mako? Mine was perfect, but don't want to sell it :p
[Nexus 4 General] iskandar1023:
Nvm, i stuck with hd for this week because im still in my hometown :b

Btw i love my mako but i hate the chrome

It's always get damaged even when using case, if its not dent then its scratch

SONE!!!
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
No such thing using ringke fusion. My chrome side panel still smooth like new.
[Nexus 4 General] dioadi:
Hello, It's been quite here!

Has anyone updated to Lollipop? :D
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Definitely!!
[Nexus 4 General] iskandar1023:
Using stock rom atm,

Atleast until Chad update his rom ?

sent by frank 2.0
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
It's been awhile in here. So what's your ROM of choice guys?
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Hi! Cataclysm engined now ?

Regards.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Yeah? Is it good?
[Nexus 4 General] LostLust:
Hello, another Indonesian here..

never seen this thread before :p

need suggestion for a good Lollipop ROM, anyone knows?
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Just asking about that bro. My man fajar using Cataclysm (is it still packed with GApps?), and i using Purity.
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Yeah. It still. Love the delta update tho

Like svnhvn, i used to use purity before. Try it :)

Regards.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
I think I'm gonna try Cataclysm. What is your kernel of choice mate?

*damn, looks like i can't find for Mako one.
[Nexus 4 General] dioadi:
Me using Purity right now, previously from Rastapop.

Somehow, Rastapop feels slightly better in terms of battery and speed. Feature wise, both are the same.

Oh ya for kernel, still using HellsCore. Irreplaceable for me.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Rastapop eh? Yeah, stuck with Franco's as well in here.
[Nexus 4 General] will_chrome:
I'm using simpleASOP (5.0.2) build 9. so far so good, nothing bugging me for now, going smooth.
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Nice..
[Nexus 4 General] LostLust:
I'm sorry, cand find it. Where is it?

only found KitKat Purity
[Nexus 4 General] svnhvn:
Dario moved it to his G+ community.

Newest can be found in http://htcfanboys.com/download/DariosF/?action=list&folder=53628
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Really? Can't help then [emoji14]

Franco, hellscore and elementalX, keep changing between those options.

Regards.
[Nexus 4 General] LostLust:
hello,

om fajarlazuarding, what ROM you are using right now?

we are on the same whatsapp group
[Nexus 4 General] fajarlazuarding:
Oh, hi mate [MENTION=5095610]edo84[/MENTION] :)

Like i said before, still rocking on Cataclysm! But will try frank as soon as it reach stable build.

Which one on yours mate?

Regards.
[Nexus 4 General] groovepeppy:
latest SimpleAOSP's android M rocks!
[Nexus 4 General] gamalrizaldi:
Halo from Indonesia.

Iam using stock 5.1.1 + twrp-2.8.7.0

Planning using xylon ROM, perhaps..
[Nexus 4 General] aldiandrew:
hello there, just notice this thread, iam mako user too :D #makoplz
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Regarding OTG, there's been some development on the matter.

A proof of concept and still in early stage of development,

but USB OTG confirmed working: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2151159
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I know, been read it before. ;)
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
hey guys, i'm indonesian but i'm living in our neighbour country :) glad to hear that nexus 4 is released in indo, means now i can get more choices of accessories. on battery report:

1. How long was the phone unplugged?

mostly about 12-15 hours, when i got home from work, i still have around 25-30%.

2. How long was the Screen on Time?

usually more than 4 hours.

3. What's your brightness settings?

brightness set to 0 since i'm indoor most of the time, except when outside i switch to auto.

4. Are you on Wi-Fi or 3G?

wifi at home, 3g when i'm not.

5. What options did you turn off?

auto sync, bt, nfc.

6. What apps/sync are on?

i kill all background apps most of the time, except whatsapp and g+. gps is on. recently i'm using live wallpaper, will report if this have any significant effect on batt usage.

7. How is your usage pattern?

moderate, seldom play game. mostly whatsapp, g+, 9gag, some browsing and emails. i dont listen to music as i have dedicated music player.

8. What is your carrier and data plan?

singtel, $34/month, 12gb datacap on 3g.

9. Where do you live and your commute?

singapore, north and city area.

10. How much is your daily data usage?

never really count, but rough guess is about 200mb/day

11. What is your ROM and kernel?

default nexus rom/kernel, i dont root.

12. Describe your kernel settings.

default nexus rom/kernel, i dont root.

13. What is your CPU bin and Nexus hardware revision?

default nexus rom/kernel, i dont root.

14. Did you flash anything else or have a root-only apps?

no

15. How would you describe an "all-day" battery?

morning 7am until i'm back at home.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
It's amazing that you can achieve 4h screen on time on stock. Are you on 4.2.2? I could barely manage 4h on AOKP and franco.kernel.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
i can get that 4h even when i was still on 4.2.1. i find it its the brightness that takes most of the juice, even if only 10% brightness, that's why i have power toggle on homescreen to quick switch between 0 brightness to auto.
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
I am on PA 4.2.2 and harsh kernel. Always get more than 4h screen on (usually on 4h 30m) and about 14-16h battery life.:cool:

UV -62.5 more than harsh settings which is already UVed -100mV. Interactive governor with franco's tunable.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
On 3G?

Just finished testing franco r83. No UV. Max freq 1350mhz. ROM Vanilla Rootbox Feb 17 nightly. On 3G the whole day. Total standby time 5 hours. Screen on time 3 hours 3 minutes until the phone dies.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Sure on 3G all the time, sync on for google service, and whatsapp, twitter sync every 20minutes.

Dont have the screenshot for the latest version but i have one from several days ago.
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
That's amazing! How did you managed that?

What carrier are you on?

Is it possible that I just have bad battery?

By the way, neat theme! How can I get that blue capsule highlight in settings?

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with AOKP and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
Its bluemint theme by vicino, you can find it in theme and apps section ;)

I dont use facebook apps, its battery hogger imo. I turn my gps off and my location off, only turn it on when needed, brightness is always as low as possible, i find out PA is more battery friendly compared to xylon and aokp, when i am on xylon or aokp i can only managed to get 4h 2m or max 4h 10m. And dont forget to turn google now off and use autostart manager to prevent maps to autorun, disable all maps event. :)

Battery life on harsh with interactive is pretty decent i think, havent tested other kernel except franco tho, but i am stuck with this kernel, it just works for me. :cool:

Btw, share your homescreen guys, i'll share mine first. :p
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
The theme works on any ROM?

Will disabling map events prevents apps such as the Camera or Path to use GPS and detect our position?

I've only tested franco and faux123. I like franco because he regularly updates his kernel and app on a daily basis.

Do you mind sharing your widgets/homescreen mods?

My homescreen is very basic, just five apps shortcuts] and no widget :p. I love my phone simple and neat. I always categorize my apps in the drawer into folders, negating the needs for apps shortcuts on the homescreen. I use Nova Launcher Prime.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with RootBox and Franco.kernel
[Nexus 4 General] aimcr7:
No, it wont affect anything, you still can use maps and other apps. It only prevent maps from running in the background or autorun when startup.

Its BK's blue holo circle weather and BK's phoney ICS, you can find it in BK's thread on android themes forum. Btw its UCCW.

Wallpaper downloaded from zedge, forgot its name :p

Nova launcher prime 5x5 grid.

Folder and my favorite apps in app drawer, i made separate tabs and folder for them :cool:

EDIT: forgot about the theme thing, yes it works on any rom.
[Nexus 4 General] K0WAWA:
seriously elzafir?? you definitely have the same taste as me. here's my homescreen.
[Nexus 4 General] farhanito:
^^what icons is that?
[Nexus 4 General] mzwr23:
Iam Indonesia nexus 4 user:cool:
[Nexus 4 General] elzafir:
Wow nice theme. Kinda looks like the LG Prada. I'm hesitant to use black and white theme, un-themed icons will look out of place.

Sent from my Nexus 4 pimped with RootBox and Franco.kernel