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[Asus Transformer TF700] Cheapxj:
ok, I'll be nice, these threads are getting old, had you used the SEARCH function I'm sure you would have found at LEAST a dozen threads of the same nature, someone calling ASUS terrible because they didn't do their research before a purchase.

I made the assumption that since you've been around XDA for a few years you might have known to do that BEFORE posting.

oh, and for the record, Having a *****, and BEING a ***** are two very different things, and not mutually exclusive. I pegged you for some kid that bought a toy that they couldn't really afford. I wasn't picking a gender, but the old fable isn't "The girl who cried wolf"

If you're already rooting devices, you are SERIOUSLY missing out by not unlocking them. Rooting lets you "repaint" the walls, unlocking lets you blow them down, rearrange the floor plan and tack an addition on the back.

Get where I'm coming from? We build the additions here.

Now I'm going to take my fat balding alcoholic nerdy ass outside and go finish this bottle of Jameson before I stop being nice after a hard day of babysitting young "professionals" on the job who think they know everything because they spent four years in college and three months actually working. That stuff gets to you after a while.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Point taken and understood.

If one looks around these forums it is easily seen that people will bite back when someone kicks in the door so to speak.

You're not the first poster to enter this territory.

I guess we can go on and on with this discussion it's happened here previously.

To note I did look at your links and actually read them.

If you type in names such as "HP, Apple, Ford, Toyota, Samsung (maker of the N-10) on and on in the customer services scoreboard you'll get same or worse scores.

That link however interesting is a matter of opinion evidently.

Asus did better than Samsung, HP, Toshiba, Acer, on the linked site you provided.

Frankly The Huff is fun to read I read them a lot on the political forefront, yet they aren't experts on anything.

I found it interesting the comment moderator below posted about an Asus item.

They had a complaint with an Asus laptop dumped it an bought an HP.

Edit: I reread the Huff article from Dec 2010 (over 2 years old) not sure why you included this being so old.

However it took Asus 10 days, yet the news article writer got his new replacement monitor.

The BBB does what they can, yet they score based on complaints then offer little data about actual resolutions.

Their alert is just an alert nothing else it's not like they're going to drive Asus out of business.

The site shows 1010 complaints closed in 3 years with 437 closed in the last 12 months, yet the Asus business address has an "A" rating.

I'm not sure what the BBB is doing there.

Anyhow...

Thanx for posting the relevant info and again good luck!
[Asus Transformer TF700] lnx4tw:
These are my sentiments exactly. If you look close enough at any product out there right now, you will find issues. The TF700T meets all my needs when it comes to a tablet. HD, USB, keyboard + battery, Android...It really is the best tablet.

(Plus it has an awesome XDA community :highfive:)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cheapxj:
another Tampa resident with a TF700?

we should go to the Hub with our tablets and try not to spill booze on them

I like nerding out while drinking, :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
Sorry for the delay in replying. I thought at first you were the same person reporting this problem in another thread. I just noticed your username is different. Here's a post from someone else with the same problem - the cheap plastic pins snapped off:

Other notably cheap components in the TF700T: a mono, under-powered, back-firing speaker that in many contexts is not loud enough to hear without a volume booster utility. Since the volume booster utilities don't work with JB, this means you're stuck with ICS unless you want to unlock it and void your warranty - dangerous with a machine so prone to breakage. It also suffers from slow internal I/O (as anyone who has benchmarked it knows) due to cheap hardware in this area, and this causes browser stalls and crashes. Browser2RAM helps somewhat, but the TF700T has only 1GB of memory instead of the 2GB it should have, so you can't allocate as much RAM as you might like to. If you allocate too much, you will run out of RAM and crash for that reason.

I'm interested in trying custom ROMs on Android hardware (and who knows - I might try some tweaks myself, I'm a programmer). But not until the warranty on the hardware runs out. I definitely wouldn't unlock an under-warranty device from a manufacturer that has a reputation for hardware malfunctions. It's very typical of Asus to release a device with an awesome screen, and cheap plastic pins that break off. A machine is only as reliable as its weakest component.

I'm still trying to decide what I'm going to buy to replace the TF700T I returned.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
That's great. Maybe I should start buying from Best Buy rather than Amazon. Did you buy it online or in a store?
[Asus Transformer TF700] gsxrfl1k6:
OP, you seem to be well versed in technology and the internet, did you research your purchase before buying? I sure did and went into knowing what I was getting into. I unlocked, rooted and installed CROMI the first day. I also bought a square trade warranty so if anything happens, I'm covered. I'm not too worried about the software issue, because being unlocked and rooted allows you to do anything you want to the software -and would most likely solve your problems. Honestly if you, as you say, use your tab for mostly internet browsing, you really need to try browser2ram. Browsing the internet on my tablet is faster than my 1300.00 pc laptop. I do more than just browsing and have had no issues as a result of using the ram for browsing.

If you're worried about the warranty, buy an aftermarket warranty. It'll cost you a few bucks (I paid 50.00), but since you're concerned with the piece of mind, you'll have it. You really need to experience the Infinity like a lot here do, tweaked to its fullest by some of the best here on XDA. Once you do that, you'll feel totally differently.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Cheapxj:
Data2SD = problem solved
[Asus Transformer TF700] gsxrfl1k6:
Haven't had to do that yet, but I'm definitely going to if necessary.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I researched the Infinity in depth before buying, but not the company. It's the company's bad reputation that worries me. It seems like buying from them is just asking for trouble down the road. I returned the TF700T to Amazon, but I may have read their return policy wrong. The "80% refund when returned after 30 days" may not apply to computers. I just read somewhere else that Amazon doesn't take computers back at all after 30 days. If not, I don't know what they're going to do when they receive it - send it back to me? So maybe I'm going to end up having another go-round with the TF700 after all.

If they do give me a refund, I was thinking I'd get a Nexus 10 with an aftermarket warranty to minimize aggravation. (People report a lot of annoying bouncing back-and-forth between Google and Samsung when problems crop up.) I didn't want to buy the tablet from Google because they charge a 15% restocking fee for returns, even when it's within the 14-day return window. Not too friendly. The two other places that sell it are Walmart and Staples. Walmart has a good aftermarket warranty option, but it's out of stock online, and in most stores (I'd have to take a road trip). Staples gives more options, and then I could use a Square Trade warranty - that's a good idea. Do they cover unlocked devices?

The Nexus 10 either seems to be fantastically wonderful, or people report various problems - i.e. there seem to be some lemons coming off the line. Hopefully if I buy one, I won't get a lemon. But before I do this, I'd better wait to see if the TF700T is coming back to me. I just wrote to Amazon Customer Support. The Nexus 10 has 2GB of RAM - easier to run Browser2RAM. If I get the TF700T back, I'll have to fix the battery problem before anything else, and then the stability problem, etc. Ugh.

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Edit: When I look at the Amazon order itself, it explicitly says I will get a partial refund if I return it. So they can't tell me it's not accepted for return. I really want to go buy the Nexus 10 now. I live in NYC and no place around here has it in stock, but I'm driving up north on Sunday, and several stores in rural towns on the way have it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] gsxrfl1k6:
Square trade does cover unlocked devices, but I believe i read somewhere they don't cover software. You may wanna check it out. The cool thing is it covers accidental damage including liquid.

I seriously considered the Nexus 10, but after researching it here on XDA, it, like the TF700 has its issues. That's really the bottom line - right now, there's no perfect machine. For me, the form factor of the Infinity (dock, etc) and the inclusion of sd card slots were the deciding factors. The tweaks that are available helped mitigate the negative factors.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I didn't end up loving the TF700 dock as much as I thought I would. It's really small, and even with my small hands, it was very hard to type on. I often ended up making mistakes that would close windows when I didn't want to - not sure how that happened. It's actually easier to Swype on an on-screen keyboard, and JB 4.2 is supposed to have very good Swype recognition.

The other thing about the TF700 that really bothered me was the teeny-weeny back-firing mono speaker that I could barely hear without a volume booster app. With some YouTube videos, I had to literally put my ear next to the speaker to hear the sound, and since the speaker was on the back, I couldn't see it and hear it at the same time. The volume booster apps don't work on JB, so I was locked into ICS - very annoying. Plus the sound quality sucked, even with equalizer and sound booster utilities.

I'm worried about not being able to root the Nexus 10 without unlocking, though. I haven't read enough of the xda section on the Nexus 10 yet to know if anyone has figured that out. I know that you can't root the TF700 with JB unless it's unlocked. I'm still reluctant to void the warranty by unlocking. But then again, I didn't know that aftermarket warranties tolerate unlocking. I'll have to see that in black-and-white!

I saw that some people have had problems with light leakage with the Nexus 10 - but some have not. And some complain about WiFi connectivity problems - but some have said it's fine. That's why I said there seem to be some lemons, bad manufacturing runs. Maybe that's true to some extent with any tablet. But the speaker/volume issue on the TF700 is true for all of them. That's by design, and it's maddening. The Nexus 10 has very good front-firing stereo sound.

I was at first put off by the lack of SD slots in the Nexus 10, but it has a microUSB port, and you can use a USB OTG cable to connect to external storage (e.g. a thumb drive) if you really need more space. It's not a big issue for me, in any case, because I mainly use tablets for internet access (looking stuff up while I watch TV, sometimes streaming movies) and reading books. I don't store much on the tablet.

The Nexus 10 also has a charging problem - it charges really slowly. But you can fix that with a pogo charger for $20 from pogocable.com.

Oh no... I just looked again at the Amazon site. They really don't take back computers. What are they going to do with the TF700+dock I just sent back to them?? My order page said I could send it back for a partial refund.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
So much worry and misinformation.

Suggest you pick up the phone and talk to a human being at Amazon instead of reading stuff on the internet and believing it.

Android is not for you.
[Asus Transformer TF700] snypa:
... be more careful...

... they work fine ...

... practice ...

:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I did pick up the phone, and talked to someone clueless in the Philippines. So I sent an email. I mailed it insured, so if Amazon loses it, the USPS will reimburse me.

What do you mean, Android isn't for me? I love open source (I'm a LAMP programmer), and I love Android. Android has Tasker! My phone is a Motorola Droid Maxx HD, and I've written all these really cool Tasker scripts for it. Do you know Tasker?

I'm going to bed. Nighty-night.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Yes I know tasker. I use it on my phone. What does it have to do with you haing Asus though?

I retract the comment about Android not being for you, You were annoying me with the negative attitude and I was hoping you would leave us alone now that you have asked for a refund.

No offence though, the TF700 wasn't for you. Shame you had a bad experience. Many of us haven't so get over it, move on and let us enjoy using what is stil the best tablet available right now.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I'm all squared away with Amazon. They have great Customer Service. I'm glad you are enjoying your TF700.
[Asus Transformer TF700] illdini:
I bought it online at bestbuy.com, however I was allowed to trade it in at a store (just hold on to your receipt).
[Asus Transformer TF700] tupo05:
I have a TF700 with a dock. I rooted it and flashed it the very first day i got it. I always update to latest apps. I wipe and flash ROMs almost once a week without any problems

My 2 cents.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Nebucatnetzer:
Just for your info it doesn't matter when you unlock the N10 you can always relock it. And it's allowed to do.

fastboot oem unlock

fastboot oem lock

Unlocking it will wipe your storage though so make it at the beginning.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
Really? How cool! I bought one the day before yesterday, but I can't pick it up until Sunday. It's only sold in 3 places - Google, Staples, and Walmart - and I wanted to get it at a Walmart because they offer a 2-year extended warranty for $44. Both Walmart and Staples are sold out online, and all stores within 50 miles of NYC (where I am) also are sold out. But I'm going to New England on Sunday and I found it in a Walmart in a rural town. I was able to pay for it online, and I'll pick it up on my way north on Sunday. I will unlock it first thing.

Am I correct that I will need to unlock the N10 in order to root it, since it's running JB 4.2? I haven't had a chance to research this yet because I've been preparing for this trip.

Thanks for the info!
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
BestBuy is good, and there's one very near me. I bought a flat-screen TV and blu-ray player there once. They offer an extended warranty (I forgot about that - I bought one for the TV and blu-ray), they delivered it for free, and they let me pay for it over 3 years interest-free. They don't sell the N10, though - only Google, Staples, and Walmart do. I bought it at Walmart because they, too, offer an extended warranty ($44 for 2 years - less than half what Square Trade charges). I had to buy it at a store pretty far from home (it's out of stock online and everywhere close by), but I happened to be going out of town anyway on Sunday so it worked out.
[Asus Transformer TF700] the_game_master:
Hmm, do you know if Best Buy is doing that nationally.

I like you got my TF700T from trading in my TF201 Prime back in July too, and I certainly won't miss my TF700T if it possible to trade it for credit again.

Android on anything ASUS made right now is garbage, even Google got the sense and dumped ASUS and gone back to Samsung for Nexus 10.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
Agreed. A whole bunch of people are chiming in on another thread to say they have the same battery meter problem I had, plus someone said this problem was reported on the Asus-made Nexus 7, as well:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37778188#post37778188

I'm sure issues like these are why Google dumped Asus for the Nexus 10.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Lot of people chiming in here too:

N10 light bleed

...and here:

N10 customer service

...and gee look at this: N10 freezing bugs

Looks like Samsung isn't the darling of customer service either...
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I know there have been some problems. That's why I bought mine at Walmart. They offer a very good 2-year extended warranty for $44, so even while it's under the manufacturer's warranty I can call them and they'll handle it. Customers rate Walmart's warranty 5-stars. Also, not everyone has problems with the Nexus 10. Did you see this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2078556

Before buying I read the reviews on the Walmart and Staples sites. Most people are very happy with the N10. The units with problems are in the minority.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Yes I have seen that thread.

There's a couple of threads here like that too.

Sparring is leading in circles.

For every positive there's a negative.

Sure people love their N10 after ROMing it with CleanROM or AOSP.

Most people are very happy with the Infinity.

The complaints about the N10 mirror the Infinity.

The N10 board looks just like this board.

Appears to me like you didn't even think to peruse here before buying the Infinity.

Starting this thread was just an after thought when you decided Asus and their products emulated hells wrath.

I don't know why you keep posting here.

You have returned your Asus.

Why won't you move to the Nexus 10 section?

Perhaps you could post some positives over there instead hanging on here.

Who knows maybe you'll get even more attention over there.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I have no interest in debating the TF700 versus the N10. That's pointless. I've given some information, others have given their perspectives, and people reading can draw their own conclusions. What do I care what kind of tablet you have or like? I don't have any deep-seated need to force everyone to think like I do (unlike some people).

I'm no longer initiating discussion in this section - I'm only responding to things others say. I suggest that if you don't want to hear from me that you don't post messages addressed to me. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
If you have no interest in debating why are falling for it every time someone challenges you?

You have to understand a number of others here are holding their tongues.

Heard the door is wide open over in the Nexus 10 forum.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
I'm curious. Why do you (and others) keep attacking me for saying bad things about ASUS and your beloved TF700, but none of you said one word to the person who posted the message below? There was not a single challenge from anyone, let alone a personal attack of the sort unleashed on me. No one said he hadn't done his homework or didn't know what he was talking about etc., etc. How come?
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
This is your thread...not the_game_masters

Your original post is what all others are responding to.

How do you think I'd be treated if I entered another section full of happy users posting how terrible their device is?

You seem a bit flustered now that links have been posted about your soon to be beloved Nexus 10.

You have to be able to take the medicine you give.

I bought the Acer A700 had a very bad experience with it...I didn't attack the device or it's users.

Simply quietly returned it to Amazon and made another choice.

For many this forum has saved the device, re-manufactured the insides if you will.

I just don't see the importance of squatting over the device vs. trying to help resolve inherent issues.

There are crap devices all over XDA that have been reborn thru development.

Most come here for resolution, fixes, tweaks and even a little education.

It isn't anyone's fault in here that others hate the Infinity or Asus...we just have to suffer the complaining.
[Asus Transformer TF700] permutations:
OMG... You just are soooo self-focused. I didn't start this thread for YOU or for anyone else who is here as a "happy user". I posted in this section because it is often read by people in the market to BUY the TF700. This was information for THEM. It's not for you. You can go away. You are happy with your purchase. Go away and read a thread that is relevant to you.

I usually visit the xda-developers forum for one of two reasons:

1) To decide what to buy, when I'm in the market, or

2) For help with really hard problems, because I know that some very smart people post here (not necessarily in this thread).

I suspect that many others visit this site for the same reasons I do. That's why, even with good machines, you see so many problem reports on this site. When people have problems, they come here for answers.

I wanted to alert people making BUYING decisions (not YOU) that there have been some serious issues with ASUS recently, and the TF700. Whether you believe it or not, the recent issues with ASUS are more serious than with other manufacturers. If the links I posted in the first message don't convince you, then maybe Google's decision to dump ASUS for the Nexus 10 will hold some weight. If not, I don't really care. Draw your own conclusions. You're not even making a buying decision. You're just trying to justify the purchase you already made.

I think the owners of TF700s who take my warning as a personal insult and a justification to attack me are acting like babies and jerks. My warning about ASUS is not a judgment on you or anyone else who bought a TF700. I bought one myself, after a great deal of research, and I am a very smart person who is very knowledgeable about technology. I was a long-time computer journalist, and I'm a skilled programmer. I've written hundreds of reviews of computer hardware and software for international publications. I'm as techie and nerdy a person as you'll find anywhere. And I bought the TF700. I later learned things about it that made me regret the purchase, and I wanted to share what I learned to save others from making the same mistake.

I hope this thread was helpful to someone, and people reading it can find the information among all the self-serving nonsense. It's like high school here. "This is the TF700 section - you can't say anything bad about it here! If you do, the rules are we Mean Girls can scratch your eyes out." Geesh. Grow up.

I'm done repeating myself, and responding to these self-absorbed arguments. Get over yourself. This isn't about you. I'm done with this now - I've got other things to do.
[Asus Transformer TF700] flastnoles11:
Bottom line, if you're going to post about a product/manufacturer that isn't up to par for your needs on a public forum, expect other people to report their experiences also, good or bad. Sometimes it's nice to have multiple point of views as a potential customer. I could link some excellent reviews for asus products now, but I won't, just know they're out there also. There is always two sides to every story, in this case, probably four or five in fact... ;) thanks for the thread though, it was entertaining at the very least :rolleyes:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Thats OK:
Well I was going to comeback with more uselessness.

Reading back thru the thread I see most responses have mentioned liking the Infinity.

That says more than all this pushing each other around with typed words.
[Asus Transformer TF700] RLGL:
TROLL