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[General Accessories] Laker775:
Jeremy - I know you have moved on to the Rockbox'd Clip + E11 (Nice!) yet I'm curious what put you into "musical ecstasy" with your TMO SGII? Your input on what apps/settings would be greatly appreciated. I'm using decent IEMs that I've had for a few years (7) - Etymotic ER-6i with my TMO SII.

Thanks!
[General Accessories] jRi0T68:
Neutron music player, plus a noozxoide/AC!D sound mod patch, link is in the t989 apps forum

-No longer accidental, just Jeremy. F.cfb

[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[General Accessories] Laker775:
Excellent! I'll check out the thread. This one, correct: Improve your phone audio performance :Ac!d Audio Engine version 5.0 is up!
[General Accessories] boulder96:
The sound mods contain libraries like beats, clear audio and they could just be some software eq preset that alter the sound. Hence you might want to decide properly before you install them. I'd rather have just neutron managing the audio rather than some very obscure libraries.

However if you like the resulting sound then just go with it. ;)
[General Accessories] maxipein:
I have trouble trying anything with the word "beats" associated with it. :p
[General Accessories] mflow:
sure!

lately i've been listening to DAPs (borrowed, can't afford one =)) LOL )

this one

and this one

these 2 are amazing!

i've also been listening to Smeggy's Thunderpants lately (modded Fostex T50RP ) , and i could say, that this is better than the LCD-2 .. (purely subjective opinion) , indeed it has less bass, but the smoothness of the vocal, and the 'reference sounding' , it's just perfect :D
[General Accessories] maxipein:
[MENTION=4731796]mflow[/MENTION] both T50RP and LCD 2 are pretty damn awesome headphones.

I know the smaller DAP but can't quite make out the larger one. :D
[General Accessories] mflow:
you'll have to try the Smeggy modded version! the mid is.. sooo much smoother! LCD2 does the bass better, but i prefer the T50 :D ,

it's AK100 :) . the smaller one is Tera :)
[General Accessories] boulder96:
Sound mods in general. 'like' means may or can contain beats libraries. If i remebered correctly the op of acid audio stated that beats was included
[General Accessories] mflow:
yeah, acid has 'beats', 'walkman' and stuff..

i do believe these are only equalizer / sound emulation..
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Yup, Acid has beats and some other libraries.
[General Accessories] zazz1990:
Erm, just to clarify.

Treoo.com is a Singapore store and their price is in SGD. Singapore Dollars.

USD$399 is a whopping SGD$526.68 after conversion at 1.32 exchange rate.

Conversely, SGD$468 is USD$354 only.

I'd say, get it fast before it runs out of stock or that the promo ends. :p
[General Accessories] mflow:
erm, to clarify again =="

he said that the price is in $, not S$.

and 468$ = S$589 (Treoo price)
[General Accessories] jRi0T68:
Looks like a Tera and an AK100.

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[General Accessories] maxipein:
I've heard great things about the Tera. How's the AK100?
[General Accessories] mflow:
my friend reviewed it here .

to be honest, from my newbie perspective, i.. don't find AK100 special.. it's just.. flat. (but the dark, black background. woooow!) . it gives a decent boost in bass, and drives stuff easily :)

while TERA is good.. but the price is.. not good =))

well, a clip+ is more than enough for me =)) . will be trying HiSound DAPs later on :)
[General Accessories] jRi0T68:
I have regretfully little experience with most DAPs. IPods, SGS w/ voodoo sound, SGSII with various sound mods, clip zip, Rockboxed Clip Zip, and RBed Zip +E11, but I don't find a great deal missing from my music from the zip+E11. Delightfully portable, volume knob is a great thing to make small adjustments, even song to song.

My problem in finding a good DAP was my specific requirements:

Not ****ing Apple

Analog buttons

Removable microsd

Over 12 hour battery life

Usable/not retarded equaliser

Usable screen

The only thing under $400 I could find was the Rockboxed Clip Zip, and adding the E11 to come in under $100 for both is amazing.

Whenever the Fiio X3 hits shelves, I'm sure it would be perfect. Fortunately, I'm happy with my rig (until I can rationalize $400 on new IEMs. :D )

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[General Accessories] mflow:
E11 is a good amp! your setup looks nice :D , but.. a Zip + E11 , double amping? (AFAIK, only Fuze has native Line-Out)

for an DAP, my requirement aren't much =)) .

i just need :

small one, preferably with small screen too, and have support East Asian Characters for text

analog, clicky buttons :D

microSD for extra storage

relative-long battery life (6 Hours++ )

bought the Sansa Clip+ last year at bargain ($30) , and now it's broke :( . screen won't turn on, but still detected by PC. oh well..

abt FiiO X3, my friend said that it will came to his mailbox mid-June, alongside with FiiO RC-X series cables :)

for now, my portable setup is just my Galaxy S4, i.. don't really care about direct sound output, as long as it is not overly bassy :)
[General Accessories] jRi0T68:
It's technically double amping, but most users report that the headphone out on the Clip is very clean, and so has very little negative impact from double amping.

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[Guide] Headphone/Earphone Buying
[General Accessories] maxipein:
I've got a rockboxed clip+ as well. Quite an brilliant little player, especially for the price.

But what I really want is cowon's next J series player..... If it ever releases :mad:
[General Accessories] Spl4tt:
+1

Still using my Cowon J3, and it's reeeaally awesome.

I hope they bring a successor of it.. For me, it was the best Cowon player ever made.

Those rockboxed clips are all cool and stuff, but I don't think that they would satisfy me as much as my J3 does.

Still thinking of buying an E11 amp though, wondering how big the difference is..
[General Accessories] maxipein:
If you want to do proper equalising, cowon's the way to go.

Completely agree about the J3 being cowon's best ever player. Wish they didn't discontinue it.

I'd really be pissed off if the J4/5 is an android player like the Z2.
[General Accessories] Spl4tt:
Yes. Also android would **** up the batterylife of the player.

I love how I can just forget about charging my j3..

Charging it when transfering music is already enough to power it until the next time you transfer music x)
[General Accessories] mflow:
i see, looks like i'm going to get new DAP 1st :D , waiting for a local bargain (again) . LOL

oh, is ER4P any good?
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Yeah. Android has major issues with battery.

One problem with Cowon is that they recently haven't been innovative that much. And pretty much all of them are overpriced (except for probably the C2).
[General Accessories] xK1LLSW1TCHx127:
Really good budget cans JVC Ha S400

Hey guys, I saw that xda had a headphone recommendation thread and I thought I'd contribute :)

I got my JVC Ha s400B in the mail today. I bought them because the people over at head-fi are going insane over these. I listen to all kinds of music; from dubstep to jazz to heavy metal. you name it and I probably listen to it. While I am not a basshead I enjoy a solid amount of bass with good extension. Also, all of my files are either 320kbps .mp3 files and .flac files (1300+kbps) driven by a SGS with voodoo sound. I was looking for a set of headphones which could be used for gaming, had decent bass extension and decent audio quality. Here's what the JVC Ha S400B are to me:

Build quality: for 25 bucks I'd say these things are built fairly well, certainly as good as some budget Sony and Senn headphones. However, they are built entirely of plastic. Also, the cable comes out of both earcups and can get a tad annoying if that's not your thing. 8/10

Comfort: Great, again for 25 dollars this is kind of amazing. Again, beware of the cord if you don't like the cable coming out of both earcups. 8/10

Sound:

bass : Some of the best bass I've ever heard. Extends right down to 30 Hz no problem, even lower if you raise the volume a bit. Bass isn't muddy, feels tight and quick yet has a driving force. I like it a lot.

mids : if anything a little lacking; and by that I mean that they don't sound horribly lively. This is true for most of the headphone's sound quality; the headphone seems more analytic than fun. The sounds are accurate and fairly flat to my ear, not bright and fun sounding. This one comes down to preference. I dig

treble : sounds clean, not too bright, clearly audible, again; I dig it

Price:performance: For 25 bucks, heck yeah this one is hard to beat

Few other notes: This is on ear and isolation is therefore lacking. Comes in several different colors. Foldable. Also, if you want a more fun version of the headphone go for the Ha s500, same headphone, bigger driver, v shaped frequency response (more bass and fun) Hope this helps someone!:good:
[General Accessories] maxipein:
320kbps mp3 are a waste. LAME vbr is much better.

The JVC sounds good from your impressions. :D

How is it compared to the porta pro?
[General Accessories] boulder96:
Can't wait for extream to develop a usb audio service for android. They said on head-fi it will be ready in a few weeks:highfive:
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Awesome !!! :D

Didn't know that it was this close.
[General Accessories] boulder96:
Will definitely buy the app when it comes out :D

Can't wait! But it's gonna be bad for my battery. From previous experiences with usb audio a 5 minute song drains around 2.5% of my 1650 mah battery...
[General Accessories] Spl4tt:
Wait. So we could use our phone as a USB DAC soon?

I definitely have to buy a SGS1 now..
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Yikes :eek:

And android already consumes so much battery... If only every phone had a RAZR MAXX sized battery :rolleyes:

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[General Accessories] boulder96:
Ummm, no. Instead, we can use a usb dac with our phone. The phone has to support usb host though. SGS1 does not support usb accessories. The s3 and s4 does.
[General Accessories] bprince04:
i'm looking for bluetooth earphone for Galaxy Tab 10.1 GT-P7500.

Any one have an idea??
[General Accessories] mflow:
[MENTION=4585609]maxipein[/MENTION], yep dude, i tried the 4ai (yes, it is available around here) .

YES, IT IS GOOD! well, it is on par with SM64 i think(subjective opinion), and better than W4R(subjective again) ! still with stock cable tho, i heard the replacement cable is better :D

i also tried an Oyaide Cable for TF10, and it is awesome! the sharp mids are gone, a little bit more roll off, the warmness of the IEM increases :D , i do have a custom cable for my TF10 (Custom Quad Strand Vermouth Red Velvet), but it is still not as good as the Oyaide cable
[General Accessories] Spl4tt:
I used the silver lune cable from nullaudio on my TF10. They made them really shine.

Unbelievable what a cable can do.

I recommend anybody with a budget of -300$ to try the TF10 with the nullaudio lune cable..

I don't know how the magnus1 cable from heir audio is though, I guess I'll order one soon, need to try that
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Agree with it being better than W4R. Extremely flat with a bit raised highs :)

Cable changing isn't really my thing though. Pretty much a noob in that regard.

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[General Accessories] mflow:
i used the ALO Cable, Oyaide Cable, and my own Custom Cable, and yes, these 3 made my TF10 really shines, the sharp mids are all gone :D

you should try then :D

tried 4Ai again, with RSA Blackbird, it has gone INSANELY AWESOME!

===

today's test list :hammer: , mostly using TERA for DAP

1. RSA Blackbird + ER4PT , nuff said, awesomeness

2. RSA The Intruder + ER4PT, not as good as the Blackbird, i do prefer the Blackbird,

3. ALO The International + ER4PT, after listening thru the blackbird, International become 'hollow', like something is missing.

4. S4 + SE 215 LE w/ Oyaide Cable + V Sonic BiFlange tips, this is just awesome, it feels like different IEM, the mid smooth and sweetness.

5. S4 + SE 535 LE w/ Oyaide Cable, another great improvement :). sweeter mids, and it just feels right :)

yes, ER4TP is good, i just love it!
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Is your s4 i9500 or i9505?

If it is an i9500, how is it compared to the s3/s?

All ER4s are awesome. :D

4ai: perhaps best value for money over $300. ;)

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[General Accessories] mflow:
i9500 sire :D

well, i do feel that this S4 has sweeter mids, and deeper bass(quite minor) , but i do love the clean output (some of my audio-maniac friends said the same thing abt S4's direct audio output, which is nice)

4Ai + RSA Blackbird = OVER 9000!

well, i'm not getting 4Ai for now, it's been sold (1 unit available, sold in 2 minutes , LOL ). i'm gambling now with UE900, and going to look for Shure Oyaide Cable. i listened to 215 with Oyaide Cable last night, and it was one of the best mod i ever heard. here, my friend wrote some stuff abt custom cables, not an review, but some, opinions :)

now , how that thing will do to the UE900 :p
[General Accessories] maxipein:
At first I thought I was never getting the s4(hate the size, the design). But the things I'm hearing about its audio output is pretty pursuasive :)

How is it compared to the Zip/Clip+? And perhaps a comparison against the cowon J3??? ;) I'm also very curious about its headphone amp

Personally, I don't think you can go wrong with the ue900... although it's a bit mainstream compared to the 4ai. For me the 4ai is a bit above the ue900.
[General Accessories] mflow:
i'm pretty much gambling over here, i love the UE900 sound, it just fits right to me :) , my oyaide cable will be arriving around next month :) , and yes, i do agree that 4.Ai is bit higher than UE900 (4Ai is more critical listening, a bit dryer, and less warmth than UE900) , but with the right amp, i can say, 4.Ai is one of the best IEM i ever tried :) .

hmm, i do prefer Clip+ in term of 'compactness', S4 is just too bulky :). been a while since i heard from Clip+ (my clip+ broke even before i got my S4) . and i never tried a J3 before. i'm so sorry, i can't help you with this :)

abt, S4's amp.. well, so far i could drive ER4PT, and it's good :) . later on, i'll do some direct using LCD-2 maybe.. i'm pretty much a direct guy :) .
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Thanks anyway.

I'd love to know whether you can drive something like the LCD 2 with the S4.

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[General Accessories] mflow:
sure man! i just need to borrow an LCD-2 :) .

to be honest, i've been thru IEM's and stuff, but somehow, an Shure 215LE (the blue one), using a vSonic BiFlange tips, and a Oyaide cable is one of the best sounding IEM i ever heard, i mean one of the best, not best of the best, it doesn't cost as much as a multi-driver IEMs, but still worth owning :) ($250 actually, and i think it's worth it :) ) . i don't do bass much, and the recabled 215SE is just.. right! . if i could rank top 5 IEMs i ever heard that would be.. these are all universal fits, as i can't enjoy listening to CIEM with tips, these are purely subjective opinion :)

#1. Ocharaku Flat-4 Kaede, this is absolutely a world class acoustic IEM :)

#2. FitEar 334, the smoothness, warmness and stuff.. it's just great :)

#3. ER4PT, isolates pretty good, and has this 'unique' sound. use a good amp with a good synergy, and you're good to go :) .

#4. UE TF10, legendary stuff :D

#5. Phonak PFE122, with grey filter, the sweetness of the mids, the superb-clarity vocal, can't found it anywhere else!

people around here are saying that ASG-1 is also a good IEM, but it's just not my taste :p
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Thanks :)

I've heard that the Kaede's absolutely unforgiving. ;)

334, TF10, ER4 all pretty damn awesome.

About the PFE122, I think you can do even better with a PFE232 ;)

First time I'm hearing about the ASG-1. Is it a BA or a dynamic?

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[General Accessories] mflow:
personally i got a loaner of 012,122,232 . among these, the most awesome value (price - performance) , is the 122 :) , 232 is too expensive :D , while 012 got too much bass even with grey filter installed :D

abt unforgiving, well yes, 128kbps of MP3 sounds real bad using Kaede , LOL. 320kbps is much better (and lossless stuff)

ASG-1? it's Aurisonics :) here : http://aurisonics.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=132 , it's too laidback for me :(

==

anyway, i tried direct S4 output to LCD-2, no amps, well, it doesn't sound as great as amped one. it does give standard volume output, but there is too much sound loss in certain sectors.

proves S4 amp is good enough to drive LCD-2 to listenable volume? lol
[General Accessories] maxipein:
The S4 is slowly growing on me, but still can't stand the size and design :laugh:

Thanks for the ASG-1 link. :) Looks like something made for total bassheads... which I'm totally not :cool:

Price:Performance ratio is definitely with the PFE122. Last time I checked, the PFE232 was about $600. On a different note, would you personally go for the TF10 or the PFE232 ?
[General Accessories] mflow:
hmm, to be honest, 232 :) . considering the awesome fit, light build (PFE series is so light) , and the sweet mids :)

TF10 is nice, but i can't stand the fit for too long.
[General Accessories] maxipein:
Yup. 232 has something more than the tf10 in every regard minus the atrocious fit. That being said, its two times as expensive. :p

BTW, how much is the ue900 in your country ?
[General Accessories] mflow:
UE900 is quite expensive here, some retail stores are selling it for $450-$480 with warranty :)

lately, stock PFE prices are increasing, looks like the PFE hype is back around here, where the stock is quite limited. lol.
[General Accessories] maxipein:
So the ue900 is close to a $100 more than in the US. Are you still thinking of gambling on it ? :laugh: It does work with many genres though; that's a major plus.

And it's great as an audiophile's non-monitoring IEM. :p

I think I saw some pfe232 on ebay for sub $500 a while back(after Phonak discontinued them). Not too sure though.
[General Accessories] mflow:
lol dude, i got an UE900 already, for $290. hahaha. that's why i gambled :p

for monitoring IEMs , i'll think about making a custom, later =)) . UEPRM is.. tempting :D
[General Accessories] maxipein:
How the he'll did you find one for $290??? :eek:

And doesn't the UEPRM cost $2000??? :eek:

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[General Accessories] Jacobxx2012:
I'm only 14 so you can take my word on this or not I dont care I'm not professional or studio artist but I love the beats by dr dre studio. There's a lot of crap people say about them that isn't true such as

1. There is hissing. Not true

2.they break very easily. Not true

3.the sound sucks. Not true

My opinion : I have listened to a few headphones like the Bose quietcomforts and jvc xx series but the beats really do sound great. I have dropped them on wooden floor before and their fine. They deliver great bass and you still can hear the voice crystal clear. And I'm not saying this because I love rap or the swaggery style of the headphones. I think people who wear them for style are ******s and make them look like their just all style. So as long as you take good care of them they will last and keep sounding great
[General Accessories] boulder96:
Beats do not have mediocore sound quality. They can sound great too, just that they are too "overpriced" for most audiophiles. The price could be due to the ultra durability or stylish design of the headphones. ;)
[General Accessories] mflow:
lol yes, UEPRM cost $2000 =)) .

that's why i gambled on the $290 UE900 :)

ever heard about price - performance?

yes, i do agree with beats sounds good, but not with that price.

mainstream headphones always need to give :

1. great bass impact

2. good mid clarity

3. non hissing highs

beats DOES have these 3 in one, but to be considered a monitoring headphones? nope. mainstream headphones? yes. to be honest, the price-performance? sucks. i've tried a lot others, and a ATH-M50 (which is cheaper) , is better than any beats (purely subjective opinion) . for more subjective stuff, my Mogami modded TAD-300 could sound better for mainstream music usage.

"PEOPLE AREN’T HEARING ALL THE MUSIC."

if i use my T1? i'm not hearing all the music because of my headphone unforgiving-ness?

a friend of mine said

"If the acoustic guitar sounds good on my speakers It will sound awesome on your iPod "

because of the bad speakers? nope, just because it is brutally accurate :D

i'm not a studio person either, i'm just a direct guy~

and the 'b' logo, don't you forget that :p
[General Accessories] barrielui:
I own 2 earphone below 50 USD, both of them are really great

SoundMAGIC E10 ~38USD (298HKD)

Balanced and great surround, stunning bass, which is really comparable to headphones. The only con is that it is not so analytical

Audio-Technica ATH-CKM55 ~45USD (340HKD)

Nice bass, with truly sweet vocal (especially girl's voice), super suitable for JPOP or KPOP
[General Accessories] maxipein:
If sound is your no. 1 priority, then try brands like audio technica, Sennheiser, ultrasone, Grado, Sony and see for yourself how 'great' beats is.

FYI, Bose is the same as beats.

Just a bit of advice: don't waste money. :)

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---------- Post added at 05:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:26 PM ----------

So.... are you also getting a UEPRM? :rolleyes:

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[General Accessories] mflow:
i got a CKM55, and a Ocharaku Modded CKM55 . the bass is too much over for K-Pop, lol. for the Ocharaku Modded, it's better, the bass is tighter and more controlled. while the original one is just too much.

for $50, maybe you could stumble to Phonak PFE012 bargain, PFE012 is a legendary!

E10 is nice :)

BOSE : Buy Other Sound Equipment , lol

nah not yet, i don't do customs for now :) .
[General Accessories] maxipein:
:D

Then a UEPRM without the P: UERM :p

And I can't believe I didn't notice the Bose acronym before. Lol.

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---------- Post added at 06:59 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:57 PM ----------

What [MENTION=4731796]mflow[/MENTION] said. PFE012 is one of those special headgear that both audiophiles and non-audiophiles can enjoy.

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[General Accessories] mflow:
well, it has this mainstream sounding :p . good bass punch, a VERY (i mean VERY), smooth, sweet mids, and not so sibilance highs :)
[General Accessories] boulder96:
Once my friend tried to show off his beats to me. He placed them on my head and turned the bass (in poweramp) to the max. The bass was so strong and distorting so badly (couldn't even hear the vocals anymore) I could feel the vibrations in my toes and my brain almost turned to goo. :silly: The worse part was he didn't even feel anything was wrong with the sound.
[General Accessories] mflow:
tell your friend to try ATH PRO700 MK2 . and turn the bass to the max in poweramp. lol.
[General Accessories] maxipein:
For me, all PFE IEMs seem to have more or less the same sound signature(with higher priced ones being better obviously :P)

:laugh: Ah, yes. The

'magical'

beats sound signature made for

'serious'

listeners of music. :p
[General Accessories] Spl4tt:
Most ppl just do not know the difference between "much bass" and "good bass".