yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
Graphics are the same of last version...
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] fbtechinfo:
camera working?
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] boombastick:
1 million dollar question : answer is yes.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] wish011:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Awesome rom Alberto.. i cant find any bug (y)..

But i use erik's kernel.. i find that kernel a little bit smoother..(maybe for the next rom to use erik kernel)

But the rom is AWESOME.. keep going..
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] a_alben:
AW: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

after one month when I said I were going to test your ROM , I flashed it now. It's really smooth and I love the launcher. The only thing I miss is the possibility to change the grid size, but that doesn't really matter.

Good work man :D

And if you don't have a problem with it, I'll post some screenshots, becuase for me it was hard to imagine how it looks before I tried it out.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Excellent ROM....amazingly smooth...keep up the good work !!!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Yes, please add screenshots because i've no time! Thank you!

Thank you! I worked very hard to make this Rom more smoother than other S Plus roms

P.s. Working on 1.3 Version, based on CM10 beta 2! Coming soon! :D

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] c_shekhar:
ver 1.2

it is indeed a very good ROM. best part is

1. the long battery life.

2. fast and snappy even at 1401 MHZ

thanks [OP]

keep up the good work..
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Sweeeeeettt....the surprises just don't end !!!! :good::good::good: :D:D:D:D:D:D

Edit - Also wat all new stuff will u be adding ??? :):)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

I'm waiting new Nexus Kernel, i'll update base to CM10 beta 2 and i'll update all Xperia Features! Tell me some ideas to add to new version!

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] panteryx_26:
awesome rom. keep up the good work.

Would it be hard for you to add OTA updates? i don't know how all that works i'm just asking
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
hmmm...try to play around a little with the ui....ohh and also try making the notification window transparent...try modifying the lockscreen...i mean these are just ideas... :D:D:D

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There really isn't much i would want u to change...it would be really good if u added launcher settings... :D:D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] wish011:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Plzz set the other xperia launcher from H-book revolution.. there u can set the settings.. (and try erik kernel, if you want)

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I have one question .. I do not know if you can that, but can you make the volume bar transparant??
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
I have 1 more suggestion/idea for u....c if u can include BLN ( back light notification ) in ur rom !!! :D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
BLN is a Kernel related features, not rom related... In next version i'll add Erik Kernel (3.0.6x or 3.4.xx), i'll update base, i'll make trasparent notification bar and i'll add 1% battery mod! ;)

I'm happy to see your sign!
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Ohhh...okk...do wat u feel is best...i'll keep throwing ideas at u as and wen they strike me :D:D

thank u for noticing :)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] dewtoujii:
AW: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

can you check if Walkman app is working properly or if its just me? I'm very happy to have found a rom with Walkman working (on others only FCs) listening to songs is working normally but i cannot create playlist or mark songs as favorites. its like the app doesn't memorize the changes that are made.

Hope you can fix this, or explain why it doesn't work for me :)

Edit: it was a bug in walkman app but ibanez7 fixed it in the new version. now the ROM is perfect :) you should integrate it in your v1.3! :)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
Great! I'll add it! Thank you!
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] be_free:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

I may sound noobish but can u tell me if there's option to make video calls? And if there is how:)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
is it possible to port the "daydream" feature from 4.2 ??? Im just enquiring.. :confused::confused:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
try adding this as well..... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2152373 :D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
I'm looking for it, great idea!

This is very beautifull! But the free version is very limited.... What can i do? I'll add free version and if you want to upgrade it, you can buy full version from Play Store?
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kaydecop:
when are there coming some screens of your rom? It looks attractive, but I think people want to see some screenshots before downloading... (at least I am..)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] muhammadnajmi96:
Hey Albert , can you port the 4.2 status bar to this ROM ? :confused:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
I'm afraid i can't.... None have ported QuickSettings or DayDream to 4.1...
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Okay, I can change the theme, uninstall the bloatware, but what do I do with the clock? How do I make it back to the right corner of the screen?
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

You need to replace Rom framework-res.apk and SystemUI.apk with original CM10 files.... If you do this, you'll lose all H-Book Graphics Personalization (also Settings background).

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Those are APKs of the status bar and the notification drawer, so I assume I'd lose only the graphics of the status bar and the drawer, right? I am using my own custom theme, so I lost it and the settings' background already. Anyway, can I just edit the framework-res and SystemUI instead of switching with the original from CM10?

So far this ROM is THE best JB ROM I've used, the only flaw I noticed is that the SD write speed is extremely slow. And I'd want to get bigmem for the RAM (around 400MB), but that's the kernel and this Nexus kernel seems very decent so I wouldn't want to change it. If you know of any kernel that would be just as good but would have bigmem, would you install it in your next version, or at least as optional? The reason I want bigmem is that it made my I9000 100% perfect device, without any stuttering, either in the UI or any HD game. Right now, I do notice some slight stuttering from time to time on my I9001.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Another way to change clock position is to replace all folders in H-Book SystemUI.apk>res except images folders with original CM10 folders... You don't need to decompile apk... you just need winrar!

About kernel, i suggest you Erik Kernel (3.4) or Nexus Kernel 9.1 (i'll add it in next version)... The kernel included in H-Book Revolution 1.2 is Nexus Kernel 9.0 BigMem, but there is also HighBigMem to try! Give me your feedback!

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Thank you!

Really? How do I toggle? I haven't seen any option relates to RAM in this ROM other than zRAM.

EDIT: I have looked at the thread of Nexus kernel and I've seen that BigMem and HighMem are separated. I'll download it.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Yes they are separated... Rember: in highbigmem version, you can only take 480p videos....

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Yes, I know. I'm not much of a filmographer, throughout almost three years with I9000, I took only 2 videos in total.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

So it's perfect for you! You had i9000? And now i9001?

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

I didn't buy the I9001, it was my sister's. I played football with my I9000 as a ball so I accidentally shattered its screen. At first, it worked fine with a cracked screen without ANY visual distortions. But then I decided to play football with it again and because the glass was already cracked, the screen broke. So I took my sister's I9001. I9001 isn't a mainstream device, so it has less developers, so it takes longer to perfect the Jelly Bean ROM. But because of great devs like you, I feel I9001 will perfect JB very soon. (For my needs that is.)

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One more question, why are there two different Xperia launchers? (Xperia Home and Xperia Launcher) Their design is different, but what about performance?
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
There are 2 Launchers because in the Walkman pack there's Xperia V Home (Home2.apk) and in Bravia Engine Pack there's Xperia Z Home! So i kept both... But in next version, i'll remove Home2.apk (Xperia Z) and i'll keep home.apk (Xperia V)...

It's true, S Plus has less developers, but there are great developers like Ivendor (italian like me), Castagna (italian like me), Xistance, TheGame97 (italian too) and other that makes this phone BETTER EVERY DAY!

P.S. I've also an S3, but in it i keep stock rooted firmware... In my S Plus i flash a Rom every day! :D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Tears for Fears:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

I take it the Xperia V launcher performs better?

Yeah, since GB, I've noticed there are a lot of Italian developers of I9001. Keep up the good work, Italians! Will be waiting for your update, this ROM is close to be perfect, only a few minor issues left.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Aldokazer:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Dunno but I took the xperia z launcher from a thread in android dev. And hacking and its damn smooth.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Yes, Xperia Z launcher is better and i'll keep it in next version! I don't know why i said that Xperia V Launcher is better! :confused: My mistake... However i suggest you to use Xperia Z Launcher.

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] ze7zez:
The quality of the camera

You can add an attachment with a few seconds of video from the camera?

Please set the highest resolution picture and sound.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

I'm sorry i can't because i've got a slow internet connection.... If anyone can upload a video i'll put him in credits!

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Hey have u started working on the new ROM ??? :confused::confused:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
R: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.2 by AlbertoSONIC [STABLE-SMOOTH-GRAPHICS]

Yes, Rom is ready to test, but i haven't got my S Plus now....

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[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] a4apple:
I'm new here. I wanted to flash this rom and can you please tell me which files i should download and flash? Am I suppose to download the Gapps for H-book?
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] Jonny_Brravo:
This is version 1.2 and this is gapps. First flash ROM and then gapps and you r done.
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] a4apple:
Thanks :)
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
Remember: do a full wipe if you come from a Stock Rom, you can skip wipe data if you come from another CyanogenMod Based Rom (CM9 and CM10, NOT CM7 OR CM10.1).

Welcome in H-Book World! I hope to you a great experience with my rom!​

Sent with Galaxy S Pine i9300
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
First Post Updated: now it's synced to H-Book Revolution 1.3 details! Release date: Today evening! :D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Re: [ROM][JB] H-Book Revolution 1.3 [STABLE-SMOOTH-PERFORMANCE] [08.03.2013]

Niccceeee :D:D

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sorry to pester you sir but how much time before u upload the ROM...so i can plan things accordingly ??? :D
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
This are things i need to do before upload:

-Add mods and kernel [DONE]

-Create zip [DONE]

-Sign Zip [DONE]

-Copy ROM to my S Plus [DONE]

-Test ROM [Not done yet, it takes about 20 min]

-Upload ROM [Not done yet, it takes about 1 hour]

I'll start testing after dinner (for me it's 18:52)....

P.S. From yesterday i work with TheGame97 (Nexus Kernel) to make my H-Book and his JellyTime the best jb roms for S Plus! :laugh:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
Amazing...nice to hear that..

plzz take your time...no hurry...was planning on studying...hence asked... :D:D:D :good:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
Bad news... i installed rom and i've wiped all, but SystemUI.apk crashes! I need some other time to fix this... i'm sorry!:crying:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
its ok...dont worry...any idea y it crashed ??? :confused:
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
I don't know... I'll rebuild the rom from 0....
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
ooouuu...all the hardwork again ??? :(
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] AlbertoSONIC:
Not at all! I've got all files ready, i'll only take CM10 Beta 2 and i'll mod it with them... so it takes 2 hours max!
[Galaxy S Plus I9001 Android Development] kunal998:
ohh okk...but still lot of work...
[Nexus 7 Accessories] AdamKkk:
Hi,

is there a better case then the Poetic SLIMLINE Portfolio ??????????

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[Nexus 7 Accessories] bsoplinger:
And this couldn't be posted on the thread about Poetic SLIMLINE Portfolio because? :banghead:
[Nexus 7 Accessories] dsf3g:
I guess it really depends what you're looking for in a case, but I do like mine
[Nexus 7 Accessories] DennisLfromGA:
RE: Best case/cover

Again, it's whatever floats your boat and that does look like a nice cover.

I actually wanted something that offered a little functionality so I got:

KHOMO Black PU Leather 360 Degree Rotating Bluetooth Keyboard Case Cover Stand for Google Nexus 7 tablet (with Automatic Sleep/Wake Function)

KHOMO

List Price $69.99

Price $32.99

I've had it a while now and couldn't be happier; the keyboard is a bit small but I like it better than the on screen keyboard.

I found it on Amazon for $33 - hard to beat.
[Nexus 7 Accessories] AdamKkk:
wow, the "KHOMO Black ......" is looking really nice! but it makes the nexus 7 so damn faaaaaaaaat :(

i think my peotic thing should be more thin...
[Nexus 7 Accessories] ynrozturk:
I think Noreve makes the best cases, but that's just my opinion.

Again, there is no such thing as "best" - personally, for me, Noreve is the best. They may not be the best for you. This thread is rather pointless.
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ImagioX1:
Has anyone seen a difference in battery life with battery saver on? I have tested it multiple times and haven't noticed any difference.

Sent from my VenomXL using Xparent Red
[AT&T, Rogers HTC One X, Telstra One XL] ECEXCURSION:
Power saver just turns off haptic feedback (vibration) and underclocks the phone to ~1 ghz. If your phone is overclocked it does not work...

Sent from my HTC One XL
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damnation333:
Hey guys,

I have been fiddling around with my phone the last two weeks and it is annoying me now.

I have had CM9.1 on my phone for months and it was fine. ONly recently started to drain battery.

Did a factory reset and flashed it again. no change. Made the move to CM10.1, but that was even worse. Loads of wakelocks that kept draining my phone.

Ended up doing a full wipe including my internal SD Card (and even the external SD as media scanner acted up). complete formating. Reinstalled CM9.1 now as that had worked for me fine in the beginning (and also on my girlfriends phone with 1.5 days battery life...).

But even though I did a complete clean of the phone I still have battery drains.

I want to do a wipe AGAIN just to make sure I did everything ok.

Just want to make sure I am doing everything right:

Format /emmc

Wipe system, data and cache

install CM9.1 from external

flash gapps (the latest one for ICS from April 2012)

fix permissions

start phone, set up google account

restore only a few apps I need for the beginning (SMS Backup+ etc) (don't use titanium back up)

Wipe cache again, fix permissions

reboot phone

Please could somebody confirm this for me?

Thanks
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie Sins:
Seems like a normal full wipe. Can't you install BetterBatteryStats to see what's causing the wakelocks? Wipe everything this often to get normal battery life shouldn't be necessary.

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damnation333:
yes. been using betterybatterystats over the last few days and tried figuring out the issues. everytime I fix one thing another thing pops up. Media scanner, then wlan_rx.., then RILJ etc.

And the phone worked fine for months. Not sure where I am going wrong. Nothing has changed concerning my Wifi connection or phone provider.

So I will try a full wipe again today and then start slowly with apps.

Thanks for confirming the process. Will report back :)
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie Sins:
Maybe have a look in this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1909996

I know you run CM (I assume stock kernel), so the steps for Siyah kernel could be ignored, but the other advices are very usefull and absolutely great for battery life (I use them myself).

Sent from the Matrix
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] damnation333:
Hey!

Thanks for that thread. Very helpful.

Just wiped phone again and installed cm9.1 and gapps. No apps apart from BBStats.

So wakelock #1 I have at the moment is the wlan_rx_awake. This can be tracked back to the WiFi here in my university. Some guys got rid of the wakelock by using "leankernel" for their GNexus. Unfortunately that is not available for SGSII as far as I know.

Is it wise to try a Siyah or Dorimanx kernel as an alternative?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Donnie Sins:
Questions about specific wakelocks can be asked here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809.

These guys can help you better than I can;) Good luck.

Sent from the Matrix
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy Winter:
After turning the phone on, the 3 buttons at the bottom of the phone work for approximately 2-3 minutes with navigation, etc, then freeze, so only the touchpad screen works from this point, unless I turn the phone off. Can anyone help me?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kylec:
Are you on a custom or stock ROM?

If it works again after each reboot it doesn't seem to be a hw issue at least.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andy Winter:
Base buttons not working on Sony Ericssion X10

Good question, I don't know whether customer or stock ROM, how do I find out?
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cchaos:
Go to settings, about phone and tell us what it says is the Android version. If its stock then it will also show firmware version
[HTC One X+] bleeding heart:
I can not yet post to the development section so that is why I ask here.

I installed the Rom a few days ago and the battery is just terrible, the FAQ said if that happens just wait a few battery cycles but it has been a few, is there a special way that should be done? I have lost 9% of my battery within 40 minutes. I'm on att HTC one x +. Any help would be helpful, thanks.
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Did you do a full wipe? And was your phone sitting the whole time in that 9% you lost, also if all this was yes install Betterbatterystats stats and let your phone sit for a few hours and you should be able to tell what is killing your battery.
[HTC One X+] baste07:
try to give it a few more cycles
[HTC One X+] bleeding heart:
Yes, to all of that, I will install that and see what's going on. Is a cycle just a low % or do I need to let it die? How does that work?
[HTC One X+] ashamir:
Don't let it die, that's bad for the battery. I typically let it get to around 5 to 9 percent left and then give the full charge.
[HTC One X+] bleeding heart:
Thanks, I will do that, but it seems to be doing better now, but I still think it should be better, its going down at 3.4/hour right now. ( normal use)
[HTC One X+] Andrew149:
Your not supposed to let it drop below 20%
[HTC One X+] baste07:
And reason for the %?
[HTC One X+] Lucky Thirteen:
All the basics are covered in this article : http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-tips-for-extending-lithium-ion-battery-life/289

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You can try an app like Battery Calibration to wipe the battery stat log. Following the procedure can help the battery to be a little bit more efficient, but don't be to finicky about it, the battery gauge on HTC's phone are not very precise, and depending on how intense your are with your phone you should have plenty of power for a day, unless you are a big gamer. I personally have a charger in my truck and I usually give my phone some power charge during the day when I'm driving, it can be 10,20 or 60 minutes. It's a good habit to do so anyway...

Once we will have some modded kernels available, battery charges will last longer on our phones, but for now with original kernel, we can't do much about it. Try to disable what you don't need, WiFi is less power eater then DATA radio, close GPS if you don't need it, Bluetooth and so. Screen is a BIG power eater those screen are marvelous, but they need power to be bright and amazing like they are. We tend to forget they are not desktop computers, but we are all using them as such! I personally found the technology very impressived for what we can achieve on a single charge when I consider the tiny size of the battery. Don't take me wrong, it can and will be improved, but so far I don't complain with what I have actually.
[HTC One X+] robstunner:
This seem pretty normal? I'm coming from a note 2 so battery is obviously going to be worse no matter what comparatively.