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[RAZR i General] piskr:
There is no simple black and white answer to your question. The difference is so weak that the choice between ICS or JB depends mostly of your preferences. And two additional factors should be counted in: Firstly I have a strong feeling that JB came out with bugs and those bugs are not AOSP based or x86 conditioned but rather result of removal of some original functionalities and Blur implementation. And secondly the GB retail version is not the same as all previous but somehow progressive (2900 instead of 2600). I believe that we'll have soon reports about differences from those who tried both systems. I expect that some of defects of 2600 are already improved in 2900. Following Motorola's pattern it wouldn't surprise me if 2600 or both systems will soon receive upgrade with some fixed bugs .

Usually two characteristics of JB upgrade are mentioned to express its weakness and strength: project butter on the one hand and energy consumption on the other. But from my point of view I don't feel that some important changes occurred regarding the transition. At least the last ICS EU retail upgrade (which has at that time the highest level among all) brought expected smoothness and I can't confirm any significant reduction of device autonomy. Maybe the slight alternation regarding both issues could be claimed.

But there is hard to establish an average model of typical user - no such exist. Maybe we can talk about groups of users which patterns of use are similar. That is why I think that there cant be the neutral comparison of both systems - it always depends of concrete preferences.

Evaluating from my mode of use includes the following preferences: I'm rather a business user, my device is a hard worker. I really don't care much about nice wallpapers, fancy stuff or games. I've got plain black screen, stock launcher and everything of Blur but Circle Widgets disabled. Games, wallpapers, animations use screen, colours, grafics, direct internet communicators like Viber and these are main battery consumption elements. My battery drop, if any, comparing to ICS is definitely not grater than 10%.

But they are other issues. As ve all know Motorola rebuild the core phone.apk in such manner that it removed sip. With ICS no sip client worked flawlessly through wifi. This failure was eliminated with JB upgrade, now you can use simplified CsipSimple clients as Keyyo, Utalk...

On the other hand Navigon which worked error-less with ICS has issues with JB (black screens). Therefore I assume that there are more issues with other applications as well. No to mention that FM radio, which worked with ICS, was completely removed with upgrade.

What to say at the end? I upgraded to JB and I don't regret it. Especially because I still hope that there will be upgrade which will fix some failures. Maybe they are already fixed in 2900.

But my overall objective is a rooted RAZRI with AOSP or CM. No more Blur, restrictions, removals. Never again.
[RAZR i General] :
They just rolled out an update for the Razr HD which improves quite some stuff so there's hope for a second JB update that improves stuff on the Razr i too :)
[RAZR i General] Foxhound.kl:
Here's a screenshot from the bottom half of the about phone. build date is 3rd Feb. Does this differ from other JB builds?
[RAZR i General] kkh786:
Still waiting for the update! :(
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
Yup

Check mine before I go and when I get back from work.
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Odp: Jb is Out!!

You dont share this update with us, so we have no idea whats changed. Anybody with update, dont install it after download, first copy it and send to mat

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[RAZR i General] vozie:
Navigon

>On the other hand Navigon which worked error-less with ICS has issues with JB (black screens)

Is Navigon broken on Jelly Bean?

Voz/
[RAZR i General] Foxhound.kl:
Don't have root, can't rip update pal.
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Odp: Jb is Out!!

Why you dont root it with motofail? Its simple and dont need unlock. But you must be on ics. So others waiting for retail GB could do it

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[RAZR i General] MTurn:
Downloading Jelly Bean for UK Retail!
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
Gah, my Razr I is at home :/
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Odp: Jb is Out!!

Share it before install, send it to mat.

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[RAZR i General] Vozie_Stockholm:
Downloading JB retail.GB. Device is encrypted will see how it goes. /voz
[RAZR i General] ultim:
Just got the notification as well. Will update when I get home.

If someone provide me instructions I can share it.

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[RAZR i General] L7iharsha:
Got notification downloading right now but dead slow
[RAZR i General] mrapoc:
just been notified too :)

yay
[RAZR i General] unuk50:
its finally here!!! yippe
[RAZR i General] scottie1973:
Hey everyone, we’re thrilled to confirm the Android™ 4.1 Jelly Bean update for MOTOROLA RAZR™ i has now been pushed out to all handsets and is universally available in the UK. The update brings some exciting new features, including the addition of Google Now and Google Voice Search, as well as super-fast new speeds. We’ll be sharing our favourite features in the coming days

YAY....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[RAZR i General] mattlgroff:
The very first sticky in this forum.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2028814
[RAZR i General] Vozie_Stockholm:
Navigon seems to be broken under JB, puh! /voz
[RAZR i General] ultim:
Unfortunately I'm not rooted and won't be taking the risk knowing it will be unrooted after the jb update.

Sent from my RAZR i
[RAZR i General] Zeki85:
Not to break anyones bubble but woooooooooooooooow the phone got slow...
[RAZR i General] L7iharsha:
My RAZR I is insanely fast after update lol
[RAZR i General] iammodo:
Was a lil bit slow after first boot but now after 15mins its quick. Also have a second RAZR I downloading the update and jelly bean is faster in menus and opening things.
[RAZR i General] Kieran1981:
I just checked my Razr I and there was an update waiting for me. Seems like Motorola has finally started releasing it! It is very slow to download though. Done 1% in 5 minutes.
[RAZR i General] R4mbo:
Took quite a while to download and a further 10 minutes to install but so far so good. Menu's and scrolling/swiping seem smoother.

The camera shutter sound can now be turned off! Also the camera preview seems a bit smoother.

3D graphics performance appears to be improved. Unreal's Epic Citadel Benchmark now averages at 58.5fps compared to 50.2fps on ICS

Also AnTuTu benchmark shows the graphics score as 2D - 661 and 3D - 3580 up from 580 and 3243 previously on ICS.
[RAZR i General] Zeki85:
Yeah... mine too.... now :D
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
installing now

:D

2 possible buyers for the Nexus 4 found :D
[RAZR i General] SpookyAwol:
Mine went to CWM on install, said it was an unsigned package and aborted........
[RAZR i General] mattlgroff:
>CWM

Found the problem. You need stock recovery.
[RAZR i General] SpookyAwol:
Whats the easiest way to remove CWM? or should I just grab the OTA and use CWM?
[RAZR i General] kkh786:
Got the update.. downloading now.. wish I could factory reset before hand..

Sent from my RAZR i
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
Bug

when you try and add a app to a home screen from the app draw it dump it into another app making a folder.

and you then have to move the app out of the folder
[RAZR i General] flashsam:
Can't you just factory reset after? What's the benefit of doing it first?
[RAZR i General] kkh786:
I pressed install later by accident after downloading completed. How do I install? The update option is greyed out. Help. :(

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[RAZR i General] SpookyAwol:
Hmmm - removed CWM and still failed. Grrr.....
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
doing side by side tests with the I and the N4

we are in no way behind here :D

pretty much dead even every test and app, beating it on a few :laugh:
[RAZR i General] UbiquitinJo:
Am I being especially dim or can you no longer boot into recovery by holding the Vol- button when switching the device on after the JB update?
[RAZR i General] Richy101:
Downloaded and installed the update and phone seems slicker than it was. Wasn't bad before but seems better. Battery life I'll have to wait and see but so far looks promising. I wasn't going to bother with the upgrade but changed my mind - after all what could possibly go wrong :eek:

I had some home screen lag when dropping back to desktop but seems to have gone which seems pretty nice. Not tried all installed apps yet but so far so good.

I've never rooted my Razr i to date.
[RAZR i General] jonmorris:
Was laggy for a while, primarily because I had loads of app updates to do afterwards.

Then after a reboot, it said it was still optimising a couple. Since then, it's flying along!

Google Now working fine so that's good and I thought someone said you lost the radio? I've still got the app and it asked me to insert the headphones (therefore I can't tell if it is working as I don't have any to hand now) when tapped.
[RAZR i General] Richy101:
FM radio doesn't work on mine anymore. Not that I used it preferring TuneIn Pro, though reliant on a 3g signal. It seems to open and then shuts. Headphones won't plugin properly now. Nothing to do with the upgrade. May have dirt in and have to find torch to investigate.

There was talk of Navigon not working? I use Sygic and it seems to load and get sat fix quicker now. So far all is looking good for my Razr i.

Is Google Now turned on by default? Not bothered to use it so if it's active would want to deactivate it?
[RAZR i General] flashsam:
Google now was turned off for me by default so i assume it will be the same for everyone upgrading.
[RAZR i General] MTurn:
Had same thing but that was because I disabled Google Search in ICS to hide the search bar in the home screen.

So enabled it in Jelly Bean and tried Google Now but found no use of it.

And saw no way of hiding the search bar while keeping Google Now enabled.

So uninstalled updates and disabled Google Search again.
[RAZR i General] R4mbo:
Also not keen on the google search bar. The opacity is a lot higher now and I think it looks pretty ugly stuck up there.
[RAZR i General] flashsam:
I use Holo Launcher which is much more customizable than the default home screen and if you use this you can get rid of the search bar

(you can still access Google Now from swiping the home button up if you want to continue to use it)
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
I like the massive speed improvement :D

I hate the way the launcher behaves now :crying:

dropping a new icon without it wanting to go into a folder is dang near impossible :(

also related, the auto arrange when icons move around when to want to drop a icon no longer happens :mad:
[RAZR i General] taffypride:
I have a Retail.en.GB Razr I, and I have recieved an Update Notification on my phone which will not install (Error 7).

The bizzare thing is, Motorola Device Manager says there ISN'T an update available.

Dafuq? I'm not going down the root of rooting the phone just to potential run JB, however I do want to update.
[RAZR i General] MTurn:
Not sure if it will even be available through Device Manager.

But do you have enough space on your Internal Device storage?

Error 7 seems to be a verification problem of the update.

Could wipe cache partition to force it to download the update again:

http://support.verizonwireless.com/clc/devices/knowledge_base.html?id=66428
[RAZR i General] SpookyAwol:
Downloading again doesnt appear to fix the issue - Ive tried the zip file from different sources with the same result........
[RAZR i General] taffypride:
Factory reset the phone, wiped the cache, redid the download.

Nothing worked...
[RAZR i General] vozie:
Navigon ok. Voz
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
running nova launcher now, I think the JB laucher while it looks the same as ICS sucks when it come to dropping icons onto to it (is it just mine?)

anyhoo, did some more back to backs with the Nexus 4

we are 95% as fast as it.

also, never noticed before but the JB whites seem to be a little yellower.

anyone else noticed.

ps, Nexus 4 sold, lost £10 in the deal.
[RAZR i General] AlViDA87:
Strange quirks

Hey the first thing I noticed was the slightly yellowish whites! Thought I was dehydrated or something but it was quite apparent.

Some other things I noticed are that some websites don't work well in the stock browser anymore like xda forums doesn't show the thread categories so I'm typing this in chrome. Also when zooming in on the text on the planet f1 site the text remains pixelated rather than resharpen like they do on other sites, again using the stock browser.

I can't turn off the low battery sound now as the app I was using only puts the whole phone in silent or it remains on.

I generally like the update but its a shame a couple of hours have been knocked off the battery life but it can still see me through the day though. The battery seems to get pretty hot when charging now, I can even feel the heat through the metal frame which I never noticed before.

Thought I'd share as maybe others have noticed these things and its not just me!
[RAZR i General] cirian75:
Noticed the yellowing when I tested side by side with the nexus 4

Very noticeable.
[RAZR i General] Richy101:
Not had any problems dropping short cuts onto desktop with mine. Drop fine onto desktop and can then be added to a folder if required.

Battery life is a little shorter I think though still go through an average day without any trouble. Don't use Google Now so don't know why battery life has taken a small hit.

As to browser I was using Chrome but a recent update seemed to screw up text zooming/reflow. Only on some sites so gone back to 'Quick ICS' browser.

Noticed the whites being a little yellow but mine has been like that all the time. I only notice when compared to a white card or another 'whiter' white source. All this whiter than white talk you'd think we were on about washing powder!

On the whole no problems with Jellybean. The home screen lag I used to have when dropping back to desktop with Moto launcher has got a lot better. I've tried Nova a few times but quite like the Moto circles widget and the swipe right to get to the settings page.

Now then Motorola - when's the next update ...... time for a sharp exit?
[RAZR i General] kenrw7:
Yeah whens JB 4.2 comin
[RAZR i General] Richy101:
Tell u what I don't like is how the Google search bar has been turned into a big slab of grey? Which idiot thought that would be a good idea :banghead:
[RAZR i General] fattymcdirty:
do i really need to be on an ulocked bootloader to flash the ota? i already flashed an old radio (c7) without unlocking.. in fastboot.

i'm on european 40002 with root atm... what would be the steps to upgrade to jb at this moment?
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

You're German if I'm right. Look @ my Signature. No need to unlock your BL, but I'm not sure if you can go back to 39GB [ICS] with an locked Bootloader or you'll have to wait for an JB Fastboot.

Edit: But beware, you can't root the 39 FR [ICS] with an locked Bootloader! You'll stuck on an unrooted JB for an while (or unlock your Bootloader)

Sent from my XT910
[RAZR i General] :
I'm Dutch but my German is really good so that's alright. But I understand that I first have to flash the VFFR firmware, so I'll wait for the official OTA then because I don't want to flash another firmware just for an OTA update.
[RAZR i General] fattymcdirty:
yes, i'm german. why do i have to go back to the 39 fr rom? to install jb ota? the ota has been posted as zip... can't i flash this somehow on my 40002?

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btw. 91.2.26001.Vodafone.en.FR - 4.1.2[Pre-Rootet] <-- isn't this a fastboot, that i can flash with my locked bootloader?
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

You need the right base FW to apply the Update. zip. Otherwise it will abort the installation.

About the Pre-Rooted: Read the Thread where you found it. That's an Homemade by Matt and only flashable with an unlocked BL!

Sent from my XT910
[RAZR i General] mschmiedel:
Yesterday I installed the french firmware, but ota upgrade failed. Now I can't download the jb ota anymore. Anyone had a similar issue?

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[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Just install the fastboot from Matt, :D

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[RAZR i General] mschmiedel:
Downloading right now, but do I have to install it with fastboot? What partition do you have to install?

Update: I installed the OTA and installed it via the recovery option from the external SD card. I keep getting errors (checksum mismatch on my system), even after a factory reset, I can't get the OTA anymore after it failed. I'm reflashing from zero to see if a clean flash will do the trick...

Regards
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
How to flash:

Have an unlocked Bootloader

Connect your i with USB Debugging enabled with your PC

Have the latest Drivers installed

Doubleclick the FlashandRoot.bat

Follow the instructions (Root)

Profit

:D this are the instructions

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[RAZR i General] dani500:
Ugly Icons

Flashed JB and sadly I still have these ugly Custom-Icons from Motorola.

Does anyone know how to remove them?
[RAZR i General] tatazeuz:
Thats very strange... Did you tried to wipe your data?
[RAZR i General] lord0815:
Hey,

as a german, did you tried to install the FR ROM? Does the baseband work with our german networks?

IMHO there should be the right baseband included.

Will an nandbackup work?? Currently im on latest stock rom with unlocked BL and rooted...

best regards
[RAZR i General] ReeSilva:
Anyone can say me if I can flash over a brazilian carrier (Vivo) version?
[RAZR i General] dani500:
Ugly Icons

I tried a Full Wipe an reinstalled the JB-Rom.

Nothing changed, still have these Motorola Icons, but all the rest of the JB-features.
[RAZR i General] artefinalistajr:
Yes You Can!.. I flash my Razr before was operator OI...now FR...but no OTA update at moment :p:cyclops:
[RAZR i General] joel_sinbad:
If you talk about Moto-stock icons, yeah... it's a Blur ROM, they're still there... but if you talk about the carrier custom icons like the orange sms icon, or purple browser icon... that's not normal.
[RAZR i General] dani500:
Missunderstanding! Thought the Blur Icons should also be removed.

Thanks for the help!
[RAZR i General] legeekreveur:
Also some small bugs: Sound bar does not moves when increasing and decreasing... #TestJBXT890
[RAZR i General] ReeSilva:
Why didn't u flash with the zip posted some pages ago?
[RAZR i General] dtrail1:
AW: Jb is Out!!

You have an unlocked bootloader? Are you sure? Engineering device or dev edition? If so, you should also be able to downgrade to gingerbread. But maybe you missunderstood the bootloader-thing... What does it say when booted into AP fastboot? "device is...."?

XT910 - Stock System: D-WiZ 3.0.2 / 2nd System: D-WiZ 4.2
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

Dtrail, the i has an unlockable BL. Mine was unlocked on first day ;)

Sent from my XT910

---------- Post added at 05:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:54 PM ----------

BTW: Before you guys start to jump on this OTA, have an look @ this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=37324512

Better to use the Homemade from Matt instead of the OTA!

Sent from my XT910
[RAZR i General] mucky676:
It's possible to change the colour from the menu and statusbar to black?

The transparent version ob jb is extremly buggy...
[RAZR i General] therazrguy:
Calm down folks I will soon make a video of how to install this french jb and first impressions when I Get free time.

Therazrguy is here to help you all as always

Like my work

Visit my channel on youtube

youtube.com/user/Therazrguy
[RAZR i General] tatazeuz:
So, anyone know for sure how to downgrade without hard bricking? I had read that you can downgrade to EU firms, but ot sure if with RSD or Homemade. I want to downgrade to .32EU, and im not risking my phone...
[RAZR i General] Marco Lomas:
Any knows if the JB update, fix tje liitle problem of Wifi 802 networks? Like the universities??

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[RAZR i General] jhnavasb:
why the CWM don´t work for me in JB?, i try to enter but an error appear
[RAZR i General] eLeKTroDo:
I want to be root, who can help me? i have JB
[RAZR i General] dani500:
Recovery

Had the same problem earlier.

You have to flash the the recovery image (cwm.img) from your JB-Folder with this command:

"fastboot flash recovery cwm.img"
[RAZR i General] SpookyAwol:
Youll find this has been answered here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2123369
[RAZR i General] jhnavasb:
i did it but it doesn't work
[RAZR i General] batwingnz:
I've tried fastboot flash recovery cwm.img, selecting recovery then it boots to stock recovery. The same with the latest .img from CWM thread.
[RAZR i General] f1ux:
Just installed the fast boot version the french JB on my unlocked boot loader razr i.

It keept nagging me with a red triangle by the carrier name. Shows a notification called mobile broadcast with my local area code phone number prefix!

Found a way to turn it off in settings.
[RAZR i General] Luander:
Did anyone tried to flash the update from France on a brazilian device?

Did it work?

How to flash?

Is there any video of the new ROM?
[RAZR i General] oroszms:
GB update is out

Hi All,

I've got the message that the GB OTA update is available, just downloading it. Anybody installed yet? Should I do a hard reset or anything to install it safely? My current system version is: 81.5.31002.XT890.Orange.en.GB unlocked and rooted.
[RAZR i General] pangyaaaaaa:
maybe 41002 and not jb??

if jb pls upload it
[RAZR i General] :
Indeed, please upload it if it's JB because I also don't get it yet on GB.
[RAZR i General] oroszms:
it's name is 91.2.26001.en.GB
[RAZR i General] :
That is JB yeah. Please upload it for us :D :D :D
[RAZR i General] Charlie.igg:
Can anybody guide me on flashing this please? I'm unlocked, rooted.
[RAZR i General] oroszms:
The files I can find in my /cache folder are: Blur_Version.81.5.31002.XT890.Orange.en.GB.zip and crc. (https://www.dropbox.com/s/b5bqeuub6hrlmz3/Blur_Version.81.5.31002.XT890.Orange.en.GB.zip)

I have not installed yet.
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
Remember, the Update.zip always got the Name of your Current (necessary) Firmware. So right now you're on 81.5.31002.XT890.Orange.en.GB and this update will bring you from this FW [ICS] to .... ???

But thanks for uploading it.
[RAZR i General] Agustinb14:
Well now that he uploaded it he can install and see if it is JB right?
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

Sure, grap it ;)

Sent from my XT910

---------- Post added at 12:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:17 AM ----------

motorola/XT890_oragb/smi:4.1.2/9.8.2I-50_SMI-26/1358465617

Should be JB.
[RAZR i General] :
Oh, didn't realize it was Orange firmware. I'm on GB firmware from no carrier at all, would that update.zip even work then?
[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

Nope... But strange is, that the carriers roll out before Moto release the Retail Version. I guess it won't take long until we all get an clean retail Version.

Sent from my XT890
[RAZR i General] fattymcdirty:
AW: Jb is Out!!

which radio is inclided in jb? c7, c9,... or something new? flashed the honemade fastboot by matt and am still on my old radio c7...

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[RAZR i General] HSD-Pilot:
AW: Jb is Out!!

The Homemades can't flash the Radio. img through Fastboot. You have to apply the OTA if you wanna install the new Radio.

Sent from my XT890
[RAZR i General] ReeSilva:
I'm a brazilian with a brazilian carrier FW (871.110.12011.XT890.Vivo.en.br). There's some version of update.zip Jelly Bean that I can flash on my phone? I have a unlocked bootloader with CWM Recovery