yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Dragoboss:
First root, I recommend you not to unlock bootloader as it voids your warranty.

Only unlock bootloader if you're gonna flash custom ROMs that don't use stock kernel, or other custom kernels, like vengeance.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Re: [J/TIPO(DUAL)/MIRO][How To]Root your phone using UnlockRoot

2nd: this method will you get is root. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] nevadasaga:
Re: [J/TIPO(DUAL)/MIRO][How To]Root your phone using UnlockRoot

I think that because XJ and XT different class. So Sony prefer to do minor upadate for us buy newer one. I will be have regret if Sony put the same update next. I taught so. Japanese mindset is hard to be guessed.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Re: [J/TIPO(DUAL)/MIRO][How To]Root your phone using UnlockRoot

I hope Sony will make update for our Xperia J. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] chente88:
Work in Xperia miro with firmware 11.0.A.2.16?

Enviado desde mi ST25a usando Tapatalk 2
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
please test it, work in Miro is 11.0.A.5.5.. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] gawron49:
Today I made ROOT the Xperia E Dual C1605 11.1.A.0.68, works without any problems
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] HassanTakno:
Hi

is it for lock or ulnock bootloader?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
lock and unlock :)

added to OP! :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Xmoose:
rooting E dual...

dude in the serial number did u type imei number?

was it totaly safe/no side effects....i wanna root my xperia e dual too

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] vikirules26:
Error : Failed to get shell root use our proffessional tools to get root access :( help needed i have a xperia E single sim phone
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Xmoose:
Rooted xperia e dual

HI I TOO ROOTED MY E DUAL (ICS)....NO NEED TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER AND WARRANTY....AS EASY AS EATING A BANANA.........:cool::cool::cool::cool::D:D:D:D:D
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
for now cannot rooting

for jellybean like Xperia J..

what's firmware?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Xmoose:
It's 11.1.A.0.68 ,kernel 3.0.8.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] g.man.7489:
Any chance for .21?

:(
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
for Xperia J? no.. :(
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] HassanTakno:
Hi

What is this for?

MTP Driver (Mediafire)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
for Media Transfer Protocol driver, if u not install this driver, u cannot rooting, copy files to your phone(for Sony, install SPCCompanion b4 mtp driver) and more.. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] ShoryukenMac:
I am on Mac and I often run specific rooting tool on VMWare (W7). But Unlockroot does not want to be executed in a virtual machine.... is it plan to authorize that ?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] chrissoriano:
pls re up the download link
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Complete. :) please test the dl link.. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] chrissoriano:
thanks buddy il try your method,actualy i rooted my pon a minute a ago but when i try to install a cwm , flashtool say need to be rooted first..i dunno knmow what the problem is

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how minutes should i wait sir to detect my pon by app?

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failed to root
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
What your firmware and your device?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] boki999:
Can I use this tool with my Xperia E DUAL with newest Jelly bean firmware?:fingers-crossed:
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
I don't know, but you can test and report in here. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] boki999:
I didn't make it... :(
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Xmoose:
Never mind...try srs root tool....

thank me if I helped you...

sent from my c1604. Sony Xperia E dual.....
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Sorry, wrong edit :)

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[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] julianocs:
Hi...

Link for Unlockroot.rar is broken again?

I tried https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/51719548/Unlockroot.rar
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Not broken, hmm.. I'll change the link.. :)
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Xmoose:
Why do these people never Google for something...??

I googled and got it pretty easy...:confused:

thank me if I helped you.Sent from my xperia E dual C1604....
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] VioletR:
Confused on Status of my TIPO DUAL (Rooted/Unrooted/Complicated ? )

Please have a careful look on the CMD output:

=================================================

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]

(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\ViOLET R>cd c:\ANDROID

C:\ANDROID>adb devices

List of devices attached

BX9037MVLZ device

(Showing My ST21i2 attached, Unlocked Bootloader, switched back on stock 22.0.A.1.8 rom)

C:\ANDROID>adb root

adbd cannot run as root in production builds

C:\ANDROID>adb install WhatsApp_v4.00.apk

2332 KB/s (8883307 bytes in 3.718s)

pkg: /data/local/tmp/WhatsApp_v4.00.apk

Success

C:\ANDROID>adb push WhatsApp_v4.00.apk /system/app

failed to copy 'WhatsApp_v4.00.apk' to '/system/app/WhatsApp_v4.00.apk': Permiss

ion denied

C:\ANDROID>adb root

adbd cannot run as root in production builds

C:\ANDROID>adb remount rw

remount failed: Operation not permitted

=================================================

Here App installs but while trying to get root access it says its a production device (unrooted).

Help me resolve this.

I cant access /system folders on adb because of this.

And of course all my apps in device which need root access are working fine and

getting superuser permissions as and when needed.

Device Info: I have ST21i2 with Unlocked bootloader having stock 22.0.A.1.8 and rooted using

each method by 'unlockroot23' and by 'Restore_by_Bin4ry_v3'.

Both producing d same explained results.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] xTerraH:
Just wanted to let you know this is also fully working on the Xperia Tipo ST21a version !!!! :DDD
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
try to flash Superuser via CWM, and report at here again. :) http://downloads.noshufou.netdna-cdn.com/superuser/Superuser-3.2-RC3-arm-signed.zip
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] VioletR:
:rolleyes:

Flashed the zip using CWM. No changes

C:\ANDROID>adb devices

List of devices attached

BX9037MVLZ device

C:\ANDROID>adb root

adbd cannot run as root in production builds

also tried

ro.secure=0 ro.allow.mock.location=0 ro.debuggable=1 persist.service.adb.enable=1

No use same results. Any other suggestions ?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
are you check the USB Debugging?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] yavu:
Rooted Xperia J BUILD NR.11.0.A.7.5 with Android 4.0.4, everything works other than liquid. 90-100 MB Ram is min. free.

What can I do so that it runs smoothly during normal use?

Can I reset the rooted Xperia J about the settings and still have root?

Update to Android 4.1 consumes more battery and is also not better?
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] AdityaPrasetyo_:
Unrooted? just flash 11.0.A.7.5 baseband and you don't have root

I don't know, it looks not consumes more battery.. :D
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] yavu:
I don't ask to unroot. Please read my post again and see what the problem is.
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] Revontheus:
There's big Flaws in that app of this compared to Doomlord's Rooting Toolkit and other ways, Namely there are 3, One is that

it won't work with Stock JB

For some Devices, Two is that it installs an outdated SuperSu and third is that it won't offer Shell Rooting
[Sony Xperia Miro, Tipo (Dual), J, E] My1xT:
DRM Keys, Bootloader Lock and whatnot will stay intact on Miro wont they?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mindwarp1571:
I asked this a few minutes ago in another thread, but wanted to ask this specifically because of the bug I have.

I'm in Claro Puerto Rico, I upgraded mi Razr Maxx a few months ago with the image for Claro Brazil and have worked good, only a pesky bug where the radios crashes if there is a call that goes on fast busy, when that occurs I have to put it on plane mode and then back to normal.

I want to update my phone with the latest image available, in right now in 672.180.350.xt910.Brazil.en.BR from July 17 2012.

What is the latest available and how is the preferred way to do it?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] kent_lkc:
what's phone System version & AP FLEX version ?
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mindwarp1571:
672.180.350.xt910.Brazil.en.BR from July 17 2012

GAS_LA_SPYDERICSRETBRLA_P025

GAS_LA_SPYDERICSRETBRLA_A025
[Motorola Droid RAZR] mindwarp1571:
Let me revive this thread... I just noticed I was moved to another area. Anyone that can answer this?
[Android Software/Hacking General [Developers Only]] Steve Matrix:
Hello XDA developers, i'm new here and i'm writing a thread on what i've done with my galaxy mini/next/pop (depend on what country you are)

I've just made a porting of Debian Linux for this device, the device is rooted and overclocked, the system works fine, everything is very smooth and the resolution is right.

Debian version is 4.0 and the GUI it's Xfce

IMAGES:
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chudy_85:
Hi all

How i can get bootloader for my p3100

I want back to ics for poland but when i do it i dont have bootloader when i install jb for germeny i dont have to

here is screen

thx
[Xperia Play Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ozzmanj1:
OK,

So for some time now when I slide open the gamepad the Xperia PLAY Launcher will not open, even despite the settings clearly saying it will.

Does anyone know what service it is that listens for this? Perhaps I have it set to kill.....
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Garridon:
My galaxy nexus came with a noisy vibrator and I can keep it from making noise by lowering the vibration strength. I've installed Air Kernel so I can change the vibration strength.

Now I can change it and it sort of works, but the little it does makes a difference it changes itself. After a each vibration it seems to gain strength back and I can't stop it. When I get a text the first vibrate sounds good but he next one is strong and makes the noise.

Does anyone have any idea to fix this?
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] Garridon:
Never mind. Found a kernel that actually fixes it
[General Questions and Answers] Piehti:
Ist es möglich das LG Optimus Black P970 mit Android 2.2.2 und v10d Firmware via APP (WiFi?) zu rooten?

Ich habe bisher die Apps Gingerbreak und z4Root versucht. Beide ohne Erfolg.

Ich habe gesehen, dass es mit Superuser Rechten und einem Terminal Emulator durchaus möglich ist, die ADB-Connection auf WiFi umzurouten. Das wird dann nötig für mich, wenn ich die Firmware updaten will. Dazu mehr unten.

Problem: Root. :/ Da Gingerbreak und z4root aber nicht fruchten, stehe ich im Moment ein bisschen ratlos da, denn WiFi wird wohl erst eine Option, nachdem das Ding einmal gerootet wurde. Ich habe schon viel rumgesucht aber finde einfach keinen Ansatz mehr.

Hintergrund ist, dass ich das Handy mit defektem Powerknopf, defekter USB-Connectivität und defekter Ladefunktion via USB umsonst bekommen habe. Nach dem öffnen stellte ich fest, das der Männliche Teil des USB-Connectors vom Mainboard gerissen war (Fallschaden?).

Ich konnte durch das fixieren des Connectors mit Tesa Patafix die Ladefähigkeit und den Powerknopf wieder herstellten. Nicht aber die USB-Connectivität am PC. Die dafür verantwortlichen Pins an der Buchse sind zu fiese abgebrochen (kaum noch vorhanden - auch mit Kontaktspray nicht mögich) und ich sehe keine Möglichkeit diese wieder zu kitten.

Da ich das Handy an sich aber relativ gut finde und es gerne als SMS-Forwarder etc mit meinem Tablet zusammen benutzen würde + es einige Apps gibt die ich nutze, die Root / Neueres Android brauchen + Die Akkulaufzeit so eine Frechheit ist... würde ich es gerne doch irgendwie knacken. So kann ich es nur als WiFi-Hotspot für mein Tablet gebrauchen.

Hat noch wer eine Idee oder kann mich in die richtige Richtung schubsen? Ich finde wie gesagt keine Ansatzpunkte mehr. Wenn es nicht anders geht, würde ich auch vor einem Hardwareflasher nicht zurückschrecken. Auf sowas habe ich teilweise Zugriff.

Danke im voraus.

-Pete
[General Questions and Answers] Piehti:
Auch wenn sehr OT... habe ich vergessen, dass ich schon vor Längerem eine "Lösung" gefunden habe und auch wenn ich sie nicht wirklich vorzeigenswert finde und sie evtl nichtmal wirklich reproduzierbar ist.. :

(Man verzeihe mir die totale Unprofessionalität und Verzweiflung... es hat sich aber leider erwiesen, das Try and Error als letzte

Option eben helfen kann... und hier tat... wie auch immer).

Das Problem war, dass die oben genannten APPs zwar liefen aber nie zu einem Resultat kamen.

Durch das beobachten einiger rootvorgänge und ein bisschen rumgelese, hatte ich den Eindruck gewonnen, dass das Rooten

über einen exploid läuft, der irgendwelche internen Vorgänge überlastet und dadurch eine Lücke schafft Code einzuschleusen.

Vielleicht eine Fehlannahme aber diese führte mich zu der Beobachtung, dass sich mein Handy nicht sonderlich ausgelastet anfühlte und

die App noch ziemlich reaktiv schien. Ohne zu wissen ob es bei dem alten Stock Droid (oder heute?!) überhaupt echtes

Multitasking gäbe (im Sinne von: Die App rennt persistent komplett im Speicher weiter - ich habe eher das

Gefühl es öfters einfach Snappshots erzeugt wo Droid wieder ins Geschehen einsteigt) habe ich beschlossen das

Handy ein bisschen zu stressen um evtl Speicherüberläufe oder irgendwas zu provozieren. Also hab ich z4 und

Ginger im Wechsel von knapp 30 Sekunden immer und immer wieder gestartet. Über 15 Minuten hinweg. Und ich hatte

auch das Gefühl, dass Handy wurde langsamer bis zu einem bestimmten Punkt.

Nach 15 Minuten musste ich auf Klo, kam wieder und das noch laufende z4 kam mit einer erfolgreichen Rootmeldung. Rootcheck ergab: Root granted. Top!

Wie, wo und warum... man weiss es nicht. Ich hatte beide Apps unter zahlreichen konditionen (Debug an / aus, nach reboot, nach heftiger last, mit Einstellungen mit Wi-Fi an / aus etc etc etc.) bis zum erbrechen probiert ohne Erfolg. Auch Stunden und tagelanges laufen lassen der Apps hatte keinen nennenswerten Erfolg.

Falls irgendwann noch einmal irgendwer vor selbem Problem steht: Viel Glück! Du wirst es brauchen. :) Meine ROM-empfehlung (zwar scheinbar leider nicht weiterentwickelt) : Zeus ROM. 1.1. Schick. Gute Laufzeiten. Andere schwören auf 7.06 aber ich hatte das Gefühl, dass die Konnektivität nicht rund läuft. Nachrichten nicht richtig gepushed und sowas. Kann aber subjektiv wahrgenommen sein....
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] neugenusis:
Rooted, but constantly getting the system update (already downloaded) notifications .

Methods I found from search and did not work:

- Renamed and moved otacerts.zip.

- Deleted the ota update from Cache

Have not yet attempted:

- Accept the update, which will supposedly fail due to the missing files, thus stopping the update, and the notification.

Before I resort to making that leap, what did you guys do to stop it?

Thanks a bunch!
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] rysi3k:
Odp: [Q] Rooters, how do you stop ota notifications (P769)

I had freezed update application with TitaniumBackup ;)

Wysyłane z mojego LG-P760 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] adigo:
what application to freeze?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] allactionandy11:
What application should be frozen. I too would like to know, and don't want to brick or upset my phone.

Thanks.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cookiephone:
Wish I had know about that, mistakenly updated to 10g and lost root :(
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] JAWheat411:
Here's my dilemma. I had been getting tired of the notification. So I let it do it's thing. Upon reboot it gave me the Triangle Android boot screen. Nothing was installed. After a battery pull it started up fine. Now I don't have a recovery. I had CWM installed with the old Prada apk. I tried using the install again. Reboot to recovery just reboots phone. Any advice?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cliffxd9:
Getting frustrated with the ota 10g popping up. I am rooted and have voodoo root keeper. Update wont go through. Freezes with red triangle. Tried unrooting with voodoo and disabling su. Nothing seems to work. Anybody know how I can get this to either update or disable 10g notifications? I have titanium but not sure what to freeze.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] rysi3k:
You must freeze: Software Updates 3.1.0 (com.lge.lgtoaclient)
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] chicguy:
Use ES Explorer with root permission, delete the update file (zip) in /caches?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cliffxd9:
I dont have com.lge.lgtoaclient.

I have:

Com.lge.lgfota.permission

Com.lge.omadmclient 3.3.6

Lginstallservice 1.3.11

Would it be one of these?
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] DatNexus:
All I had to do was watch it fail once and then the notification went away, but I have heard that if that does not stop the stupid update notices you can go into /cache and find the 28 or so mb file for the update (it has a fairly distinctive name), copy the filename, delete the file, and create an empty file, then paste that name you copied from the real update as the name for the blank file. Then, when your favorite little notification pops up, press install now and watch the red triange pop up. Now, just hold power button until it powers off, then turn it on, and alakazam, no more update irritation. Also, one reason the update sometimes doesn't go through is if you have deleted any of T-Mobile's bloatware. If you do want the update to install, your best hope for restoring the bloatware is in this thread HERE. Good Luck!
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] kamikazekyle:
While I can't vouch for anything else besides the P675 10e Tmobile version, the following method will stop the update prompts. It *should* work on all ICS and JB devices, including Nexus.

0. Root, if you haven't already.

1. Download AutoRun Manager

2. In ARM, choose "Advanced"

3. Touch the wrench icon, and check

- Show System Entries

- Enable System Application Disable

4. Back on the application list, tap the refresh (circle arrow) icon if you don't see system apps. They should have a red background.

5. Find the app Google System Framework (aka: GSF) and tap it.

6. Uncheck the "com.google.<something>.gsf.update.SystemUpdate" receivers. I can't read my own handwriting at the moment, but they both end in SystemUpdate.

And there you go. I've been update free for at least 18 hours, and it's persisted through reboots. The receivers have yet to start back up.

Most ICS and JB devices should receive update notifications via the Google Services Framework, not the manufacturer's update applications. The manufacturer might have their own update procedures/apps/scripts once the update is downloaded and ready to install, but the notifications should all be handled by the GSF.

Personally, I tried freezing and even deleting all LGE update related apps (omadmclient [or whatever it's called], fota [several variants], and more), deleting the downloaded update, deleting the SSL certs, and even using a pm command in a shell script that ran every 5 minutes to kill all LGE update related modules. Nada. The only thing that worked was the above method.

I've also heard -- what DatNexus mentioned -- accepting the udpate then hard rebooting works, too. But it's not as universal (my Nexus 7 still kept prompting me, for example) and there's always a chance that accepting an update later on will brick or otherwise damage the file system rather than just fail outright.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] rysi3k:
In my phone in english i have app called "Software Update", in details it shows com.lge.lgfotaclient
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] cliffxd9:
Fyi...I deleted the update and everything else in the cache and then froze the lgfota.permission. 24 hours and so far so good on both our p769's.

Ours didnt say "update" just lgfota.permission.
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] noseguy:
Whoa! So far, so good. I did what you said on my E4GT ( the receivers were named slightly differently, but it was obvious enough). I've tried dozens of "fixes" with no luck, this one just might hold. (crosses fingers).

Thanks!!
[LG Optimus L9 P760, P765, P768, P769] iB4STiD:
from the play store d/l es file manager, go to /system/app/ and delete LGFOTA.apk, no more update nags,:cool:

don't forget to go into /cache/ to delete the update zip
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] nigelinux:
I'm using the latest lewa from Delanoister for a few days. Suddenly after a reboot I get stuck on the BNC logo. I flash CM7 from MMB and still get stuck on Android text. I wipe data, format system and flash ROMs but still got stuck. What can I do? :crying:

Flashing ROM for more than half a year, first time got stuck on this :(
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] nigelinux:
I tried Odin, but after that I got bootloop and stuck on the samsung animation. During using Odin I found this as attached
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] ironman38102:
After flashing stock through odin go to recovery then wipe data and cache
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] nigelinux:
after wiping, finally got into system, but still when I go into recovery, I saw this as shown in attachment. And I tried flashing custom ROMs but can't get into system, only stock ROM flashed through Odin can. Do you know why?
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] voetbalremco:
you need custom recovery, root acces, at least android 2.3.x. anld ext4formatter.zip rlthe first time installing a custom rom. you problably miss atleast one.
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] nigelinux:
My procedure:

flash stock ROM (2.3.x) -> boot into recovery and wipe data -> can boot into system -> flash CWM using Odin -> flash ext4formatter.zip using CWM -> reboot and flash PX-recovery -> reboot into PX-recovery -> flash custom ROM (CM7 by MMB)

until the last step everything was fine, but stuck on android text after flashing custom ROM. Maybe I miss rooting? thanks anyway and I will try later
[Samsung Galaxy Gio GT-S5660] voetbalremco:
root before flashing CWM
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magpie22:
I have the weather displayed on my lock screen, but have found that it does not match what the temperature is in Google now for some reason.

Anyone know why that is, am I just missing a setting to configure it or something.

Thanks and hope someone can help with this.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Glebun:
the weather is pulled from different sources
[Off-topic] Wolf Pup:
Hello mates,

so, pretty much all of us despise Apple one way or another. Except the odd few. Not going to say names...

But, what about things that we DO like about Apple, or Apple Products we do want to get, and reasons why.

Let me start. Aesthetics. I kind of like the Apple's product aesthetics. They look nice. Even though the earlier iPhones were ugly. But, today's products from them look kind of nice. The colour scheme, and the general physical design.

Well, a few months ago, I liked their aesthetics less. Because of that patent they got on the rounded rectangle. They have a huge and unfair advantage over others. Wow, I hope they lose that patent. So, now that they have that patent, I like their designs less, because of that patent.

I also like their keyboard a bit, and that giant Mouse Pad or something. The only problem I have with their keyboard is that I'm not used to those flat type keyboards.

Anyway guys, discuss.
[Off-topic] StormMcCloud:
Oh joy another random Apple "blah blah blah" thread.
[Off-topic] _Variable:
I second the part about design, but build quality is fragike.

__________________

Sweet Devil >_<

GT-P3100 | Android 4.0.4 ICS | Sun Cellular

PM me if you need help