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[About XDA developers] estallings15:
No reach around?

Now that's just rude :mad:
[About XDA developers] undercover:
You could always offer a hand ;):p
[About XDA developers] DowntownJeffBrown:
:eek:

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[About XDA developers] undercover:
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[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Guys on a for real note, if you wanna play and have fun that's fine. But this isn't the thread.

A toast from my Gnex aboard the Satisfaction!
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
Bump..please keep it serious as this issue is very real and the future of an XDA without shackled users is whats at risk.
[About XDA developers] Tomsgt:
OK mods what's the big deal here, just let us have our thread back and everyone can move on with there day. Like others have said, there are off topic threads in other devices general forum. Why fight about it. Just give it back and all is happy again. :D:D:D:D
[About XDA developers] flastnoles11:
It's all up to the mod in your section... and apparently he doesn't want an off-topic thread in his section. Why not just start one in actual off-topic? While I agree that one off-topic thread per section should be allowed, what's the problem with just starting your own off-topic in actual off-topic?

Sprint GS3 FAQ THREAD
[About XDA developers] DesertHawk:
:eek:
[About XDA developers] lovem:
I just want to be allowed to post in general. I have so many different experiences to share after reading everything.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Great question. It has already been asked but I'll put it in a little different perspective.

Lets say a little over a year ago you joined a HUGE community center where you lived. Upon joining the free club, you had to agree to abide by the rules. No problems there. You met up with a group that played basketball on the first floor. The floor manager of the center had no issues with the basketball group that had developed in his area. The group played well with others, gave insight on how to play, never turned anyone away, no confrontations, etc. The occasional game of H O R S E was played along with free throws even though it wasn't an official game. Hi-five's (thanks) were given to show appreciation and simply was court language. We won't even open that can of worms because basketball can exist without "good games" on the court. Floor manager moves away and in comes a replacement.

Now we're at current date and a notice has been posted in which your basketball group is no longer welcome in 24 hours. No rules were broken. No behavior reports were filed. Your group you once were a part of has to move on because the new floor manager doesn't approve of it. You weren't even given the option to move your "group" to the second floor to gather. However, you and your group were referred to the second floor to start over. The problem with that is: on the 1st floor there is no one running wild on skate boards, clowns juggling, emo kids writing on the walls, paintball tournaments, all the things you didn't have on the 1st floor you now have to be a part of or not play at all. You group will never be the same again. All of this becase the 1st floor manager didn't like what was going on.....even though your group followed the rules and gave back to the 1st floor community.

Now this may seem very elementary, because it is. Where we are at now, in relation to this scenario, is pleading our case to the board of the community center. Its spoken loudly all around the center that it cares about it's members. This is the moment to prove it.
[About XDA developers] efrant:
But the problem is that the first floor was originally meant as an indoor soccer pitch. And over time, more basketball players came and were using it. The manager and the soccer players tolerated it, as there was enough room and the basketball games didn't impact the soccer game. As time progressed, there were a lot of basketball players that joined and started to impact the quality of the first floor, and now, people in the community were starting to think that it was a basketball court, when in actual fact, it was never meant to be a basketball court -- it is an indoor soccer pitch. Then manager made room for the basketball players on a different floor, but the basketball players didn't appreciate playing basketball on the same floor as the kids and clowns running around up there, similar to how the soccer players didn't appreciate playing soccer on the same floor as the basketball players, despite basketball being more closely related to soccer than to kids and clowns. ;)
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
What's with the confusing analogies?

STAHP!
[About XDA developers] BreatheALittle:
Please disregard :D
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Understandable, but here's the problem with that. The 1st floor (Droid X2) was and is just that. We didn't ask it to change or even try to change it, for that matter. Also, the amount of time on the court didn't derail the whole floor nor did it take away from anyone or anything else. If people wanted to play soccer, we didn't shun them or push them away. They were welcome to begin with just like we used to be.
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
I'm done have fun xda Google is how I found you and how I will lose you

don't be scared it's only a phone ;):smokin:

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] Tomsgt:
These mods are really making me think that they don't give a rats ass about there members. Maybe we need to contact all the devs we now and tell them about this **** and see if they will pull there ROMs and put them on other sites. I know at least 10 devs. There are plenty of other great android forums. I follow a ton like droid hive, droid RAZR, android forum, and root wiki, that have all these same files and roms. Just like any bad business that you have been to you don't ever recommend them to anyone else. Members equal profit you fouls.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
You are not addressing the point efrant is making. He is saying

"the place was never meant to be used that way"

your reply to that is

"but we never bothered anyone"

Translated, this means

"look, we know it is not the place, but since it doesn't seem to bother others, we'll go ahead and did it anyways"

tl;dr

Just because you are able to do something, it doesn't mean you should. If you had the need to create an Off Topic thread, create it in the Off Topic Forum. Your moderator area team has decided that it is much of a burden to monitor something that should not be there in the first place. And before you come up with the argument about other areas having OT threads... that is up to each individual team.

Sorry, but unless you (or anyone) can provide a good enough reason to have Off Topic discussions in an area meant ONLY for phone related discussion, I will consider the matter closed. And please, I beg of you, do not try and give me the "its convenient" argument because it takes the better part of 15 seconds to bookmark a subforum either in the app or on a browser.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
Lol...

Make all the threats you like... at the end of the day, OT is a TINY part of this site. In fact, there's a loud minority (approaching majority of active users, I'd say), who would vote for "get rid of OT entirely". The majority of devs I've talked to want RID of inane and stupid threads and posts.

What would happen though if I said (hypothetically), OK guys, you can have your "off topic" threads, BUT they must go by the "SomethingAwful" style rules... Since they are the kings of "OT"...

Let's take a look :)

Guys... That's how similar forums specialising in this sort of thing run... Looking at the majority of posts there, they wouldn't meet these criteria...

Perhaps we need to consider here what the goal is - you evidently want the "status quo". You want back the ability to post "off topic" in the thread. The issue is, that thread gets clogged up with drivel, gets the odd search hit, but generally languishes with thousands of posts of nonsense. The majority of posts I saw don't meet this kind of quality criteria... Signal to noise ratio is what matters in digital communications, and this is just an example of it.

I think the rules in force here are actually pretty lax and flexible compared to those above... I have no doubt we'd not be having this discussion under SA-styled rules, given questioning decisions is fine until it turns rude, then they just ban people for it (as they were warned in advance).

Yes, I hear you want OT. Yes, I also hear the side who want to see no OT, and the return of XDA towards its developer roots... At the end of the day, how many of you have written new code for your operating system, then compiled it and shared it? In their books, anyone who hasn't should be banned... This is all a balancing act of trying to get things right to satisfy as many people as possible...

At the end of the day, it seems to me a reasonable compromise that the OT vs no OT is left to the area mods to decide per the group leader. If it's causing an issue, it stops. If it's not, then we continue as-is. Please don't now question if it was causing an issue, as I know that's the next point. If they do it, it IS causing an issue, even if you can't see it directly...
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
We waited 3 weeks for this?

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Was anyone actually looking into it or was it just being ignored hoping it would go away. Based on the replies I've seen it doesn't sound like anything was reviewed to me.
[About XDA developers] Tomsgt:
So you LOL at my post, this proves that you don't care about our complaits. Or us as members of this forum I contribute lots of time to this site helping noobs learn how to root and unlock there phones. Giving XDA lots of traffic from links on my sites so please be nice hear. Maybe say I am sorry how this happen and it shouldnt have been closed. maybe just moved to the off topic section. That would have been a great way to deal with this. Now you have a lot of mad members.
[About XDA developers] thewadegeek:
First off, any moderator who volunteers their time should not have to apologize at all for any actions done by anyone but themselves. I have not really been keeping track of this situation, but unless one of the above mods are the ones that deleted the thread they owe you nothing.

Second...a lot of mad members? Do you realize how many members XDA has? Trust me you guys, don't over-value yourselves, threatening to leave will get you know where.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Guys........ Ok, y'all are missing the boat here.

OT is in fact OT. I will not disagree at all with that. Does it belong in the OT section? Of course.

This is the problem I have with the whole ball of wax. You said:

Is it really that much of a burden? Show me the countless times the mod had to constantly watch and clean up the thread. What about the x number of people he had to ban or pass infractions to? You won't find it because all of that is not there. The thread is not solely an OT thread. The support lies within. As previously stated, broncogr decided to pull 8 posts from a thread that was over 7,000 posts long and make a complete generalization about it. Also, if the thread were not meant to be there in the first place, why was it active for nearly a year's time? Did we not have enough pictures of nearly nude girls for wallpapers?

Now that this thread has ran out as far as it has, here's what's come from it:

With over 5,000 views, y'all know the news of the outcome will spread like wildfire. Your mods made a decison and now you're having to back it instead of making a group decision that would suit everyone as best as possible. Nobody has proved that we broke any rules in the thread. It was nearly zero effort to monitor. Somebody didn't like it and here we are. Now y'all are back-peddling and stumbling over your own feet.

How about I'll make a poll and let the poll speak for itself? Not that you would make a decision based on that, but it sure would let everyone know where the member support stands.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Nope, you got that right... we don't care about complains. We will listen to feedback and suggestions and try to reach a mutual understanding of a situation. However, your post was, as you stated, a complain, and a rude one at that. While we certainly appreciate your efforts in trying to educate people and help them find their way around the vast world of Android, no one asked you to do it. You are doing it out of your own free will. We never promised you anything upon signing up other than "you will have the right to be part of the community so as long as you abide by the rules and regulations of the site", let alone a promise in exchange for help. As for directing traffic from your site, we also appreciate it, but again, you are doing it out of your own free will. We will not get mad at you for pulling your links out because we never had an understanding with you regarding mutual site traffic benefits by linking each other.

You are acting like an immature brat who is mad and throwing a tantrum because he cannot have the toy on the shelf. At the very least, other members are coming up with arguments. You on the other hand are simply coming up with threats and insults... way to go into an argument trying to convince the other party that you have a valid point! Like I told tallyforeman in my previous post... prove to me that there is a logic behind an OT thread being placed there. I will not entertain silly threats or complains, period.
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
Here is what you don't get. Each team is assigned to about 70 forums each with about 6-8 mods per team. So, it is your thread on top of all the other fora and threads and posts and drama in each one of them. So, yes... it is a burden, and an unnecessary one at that. One that can be easily deterred if you just opened your thread in the correct area to begin with.

As for your other point,

the group decision is to suit the few people complaining about this as best as possible and not the site as a whole. Rules were not broken as you state (well, technically speaking Rule 15 is actually broken since the thread itself does not conform to a device specific section), but the dynamics of the area changed in order to better accommodate the growing needs of a "cleaner" area. It was decided by the team and that was the end of it.

A poll, I can tell you right now, will be absolutely pointless. Want to start one up? Feel free to do it. It will not change a single thing, unless the entire team in question decides to change their minds, and quite honestly, I don't see that happening any time soon.
[About XDA developers] jotha:
C'mon man, 5000 views. You really have an odd feeling for your importance, the importance of that thread and most of all the importance of that topic. When you look on xda-main site, you see on left top: 4791016 or so members and 56000 or so online atm. So what do you think you can proof with any poll, lol? There are 170 posts here, most by the same ppl. So you get 50 votes? or 100? Even if all vote for your opinion that have seen the thread you have maybe 500 votes as most of you have viewed this thread multiple times.

You have to realize: For everyone of you that wants to post OT on device threads, there are some that report those OT threads, so are not fond of them. They just don't come here and post. Why should they? So you are pretty alone with your opinion, in xda-global scale.

Deal with it.
[About XDA developers] csking33:
There is a very valid reason for having an OT thread for a device in said device's general section. It is a gathering place members sharing a similar experience to get together and chat. It keeps the development threads cleaner, people know where to go if they would like to have OT discussions. Our particular thread, as was stated multiple times, was a place where anybody was welcome. We helped anybody who came along, surely keeping the PM inboxes of developers a little less full. We all know how much they like getting PMs from noobs asking how to root their phone.. :good:. Why keep it in the device general section you ask? Who is going to know to go search the off topic section for the DX2 thread?? Nobody would have ever known it existed, and I'm sure that most people wouldn't think to search for it. Would there be a way to link it from the general section? Why not just keep the thread open in that case?
[About XDA developers] egzthunder1:
The site offers a fantastic option called Social Groups to avoid this exact thing. So, you would have your own "sub section" with no mods bothering you, no pm inboxes getting full, and certainly no cluttering of device fora. You would have the freedom to talk about whatever you want related (or not) to your device.

Next?
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Why is this even still an issue?

You guys who are moaning are making it seem as if your devices off-topic thread was the only one on the whole site to get closed. If you think that, you're much more deluded and mistaken than I thought.

A load of the off-topic threads got closed exactly as yours did, one of mine being in that collection aswell. Are many other kicking up a fuss about it? Am I kicking up a fuss about it? No, because XDA is first and foremost a development site and as Pulser has explained, XDA could quite easily be a site where strictly development talk happens. But it's not. There's a plethora of threads within the off-topic forum that you can post and as has already been offered by Fallen Spartan, your old thread could simply be moved to the off-topic forum.

What makes your devices off-topic thread so important? Just the fact that you helped people out if they needed it? Big deal. So did a lot of others, the Nexus 4 thread being another example. Those guys weren't too happy about the closure at first but there's a major difference in how they acted. They realized that it was such a big problem to simply re-create their thread in the off-topic forum and have made it a Nexus hangout thread so as to increase the people who frequent it.

How about you all act more mature about it instead of acting like a little kid in a playground?

And to those who said they were gonna leave XDA because of this situation, please do. I can obviously only speak for myself when I say this but, I don't think we need the likes of you guys on here if you're gonna ***** and moan about something which is not important in the slightest.

Grow up.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Theminatar:
I'm having an issue with the latest liquidsmooth ROM. I updated my kernel, cleared my cache and my dalvik. This is a dirty flash. But I'm stuck at the Liquidsmooth loading animation. It has sat here for a good 10 minutes so far. Is this normal for the first time? I had this issue before so I just flashed back to my old rom and it was fine after that.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Theminatar:
Anyone please? I can't use my phone and have no back ups or another rom to flash to. And my computer wont install the drivers in order to push a rom onto my phone..
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] CNexus:
What did you dirty flash from? Dirty flashes are generally a bad idea, unless you are flashing from an update for a rom. But even then, you need to make sure the OP says its ok to dirty flash because the nature of some update can require a full wipe

Sent from my PG06100

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And you dont need the drivers to get a rom on your phone. Just mount the sdcard through recovery and it should show as a usb mass storage device

Sent from my PG06100
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Theminatar:
I did a dirty flash from JellyBomb. And it wont allow me to mount the sdcard, I choose it and it just stays at "mount sdcard". I have mounted the extsdcard but when I plug my phone into my computer, it makes 3 beeps and doesn't display anything. Also, I appreciate all the help.

Edit: After doing a wipe installing liquidsmooth works now :D I have lost eveyrthing though :(
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] CNexus:
You shouldve made a nandroid, then you couldve done advanced restore > data only....

Sent from my PG06100
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] jws86:
Hey all I have been researching tablets here the last couple days. I have never really seen much of a use for them but have recently thought about buying one. I have been in online school for about 8 months and now I am transferring to a local college where I won't be going online anymore, so this is the first reason I have thought about purchasing one. I have 2 different laptops and my galaxy nexus phone at the moment. What I'm wondering is what do you all use your tablet for, what are they capable of that my laptop may be not when I take it to school besides the smaller size? I have looked into ipads but the ability to expand memory with the android devices, plus root capabilities and price has drawn me to this tablet. Just really looking for some good reasons to support the $ 350 purchase other than just to have one lol...
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] kaisman:
usage for tab

Hi

I mostly use my 2.7 on the London tube to read newspapers. I also play a lot of online backgammon and poker. It's ok to read and play on a mobile phone, but the 7" makes it much easier to read the print and see all the icons, etc. It's also not so cumbersome as a newspaper on a crowded tube.

I also tether my tablet to my phone and use the data to listen to online radio stations and play my games.

A lot of people watch movies on them, on the move.

For home use I prefer a 10" model as it's a much larger screen. It's different to a laptop as everything can be touch screen and as you say, it's much lighter.

I find the Ipads are definately a good responsive device but expensive and far too restrictive. You can pick up a good android tablet for half the price and get more storage and the versitility to do a lot more with it.
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] Deleted member 804010:
The main reason I purchased the tab 2 7.0 was for it's Bluetooth capabilities. I use the tab along with my Bluetooth OBDII reader, paired with the Torque app to help with the monitoring of my car's ECU.

I have since taken a liking to the tab and pretty much use as my daily driver for streaming video, etc

I use it more now for day to day use than my laptop

Regards,
[Galaxy Tab 2 General] LeftyGR:
I use mine for movies using all share and netflix. For reading documents and prints for work and school. Much easier to do these things on a tab than carrying around a laptop. Also the ir blaster built in is really nice for tv channel surfing...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bajasur:
Hmmm,

I recently sold my wives Verizon galaxy nexus and it was rooted when sold ( per the request of the buyer they wanted to keep it rooted)

Apparently she used to have a blackberry and went into Verizon today to transfer her contacts from the blackberry to the rooted nexus and Verizon said they can't help her because she is rooted..

So now this lady is upset because she can't transfer her contacts, but she LOVES being rooted.

Any pointers that I can pass on? Any help is appreciated.

Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] bodh:
Is the bootloader unlocked as well? Try OTA Rootkeeper to hide root, and Segv11's bootunlockr to temporarily lock bl. How did they discover that she's rooted? None of their business!
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] stevemw:
Why not just transfer contacts to a desktop and then transfer from the desktop to the Gnex? That'/s essentially what the Vz store would do.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] b177y:
I had to do this when my wife moved from BB to Gnex. I used a Mac Snow Leopard, so I can't say if Win is any different...

Sync the BB with the BB Desktop software, then sync the BB Desktop phone book with Mac Contacts.

Check options on Mac Contacts to allow to sync to Google Contacts, then sync those.

Clean up Google Contacts manually (online or in Gnex) to make sure everything is in the correct spot (i.e. nicknames, business names, notes, etc...). If her contacts list is just names and numbers, this last step may be unnecessary.