yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Ok, you have me on this one as I used the wrong terminoligy there. I meant to reference "the moderating team assigned to your forum".

That's another argument I have. The thread I am referring to has helped me and many others more than most realize. Everyone helped everyone and shared knowledge amongst others not only about the X2 but Android itself. That includes, ROMs, flashing, how to's...the list goes on. Everyone felt comfortable there. Nobody was flammed for a random question or comment. We kept it together and quite nicely I might add. Had the thread been moved to the OT forum, all integrity including the knowledge with it would have vanished. Look at the threads that have been moved there already. It's like a field day for the kids and trolls. I can't speak for them, but I'm sure they would agree. XDA is better than that. In this case, the mod had no idea of the content of the thread.

Last month I felt the need to donate to better help on the backside because I was proud of the community we had. It was different than anything else. Yes it was a small donation, but to merely test the waters to see what would come about before I invested any further. This isn't a conversation about how much money this and that, but I surely would not try to better something that meant nothing to me.

I can't disagree with you at all there. Y'all handled the situation appropriately.

No need for names or whatnot. I am more than greatful that you are trying to work with me and reach some common ground here. Y'all have heard plenty from me out of this whole thread. My thoughts, facts and opinions are there. Our thread served a purpose and had meaning. It wasn't a toy and didn't cast a shadow of negative morale to anyone who viewed it. In a nutshell since you have heard me plea my case, I'm simply asking to reopen my thread. I honestly do not see what harm it was causing. You guys would have never heard me be the squeaky wheel that needs the grease if this had never occured. Alot of good came out of that thread. It's worth the consideration.
[About XDA developers] estallings15:
It's not that they can't but many people don't. Don't ask me why. I did forget one thing, as well. I saw several of the members in that thread grow so much in their knowledge because of the discussions we had. When they originally came, even though they had owned and rooted many devices, they knew little more than how to use the basic functions of a toolkit. Now I see them out in the Q&A section and in Dev threads spreading their knowledge and helping the community. I firmly believe this wouldn't have happened without that thread.
[About XDA developers] DowntownJeffBrown:
I'm one of those members. I have rooted many phones but a toolkit was my way of doing everything. If it wasn't for that thread and the members that frequent it I wouldn't be helping and contributing in the form I am today. It was an amazing thread and we would help anyone no questions asked. We would point people in the right direction so they could learn and help themselves at the same time. The nexus4 off topic thread was one of the most supportive and informative threads I've come across on any website. You can just see by the short time I've been a registered member (I lurked for 2 years) how much I've grown and learned by looking at my posts. Thank u guys the mods who have given interest to this topic I very much appreciate seeing the effort u are putting forth.

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Original Development isn't used as intended in a lot of instances and that can be proved by looking in the SGS2 Original Development and probably the SGS3 aswell, BUT the Developer Discussion forums are a great idea and it's a shame that someone hadn't had the idea sooner.

Developer Discussion sub-forums are effectively the niche gap between what this site should be about and Original Development sections. Ideally, developers should be able to use Original Development to post the kinda content which is available in Dev Discussion area but with the state of users on XDA, that clearly isn't possible without a sh*t ton of nooby posts saying things like 'Ermahgerd, dis iz amazing' and 'make this flashable so I don't have to do any hard work'.

Thus a separate sub-forum was created and, even though there have been off-topic posts - the exynos abuse thread was proof of that -, it is being cleaned up relatively quickly by the moderators.

Not the case in the slightest. If anything, recognized members (especially RC's) are more liable to action being taken because we are expected to act in a manner which fits our title.

I'm not sure if you're aware of this, as it happened not long before you became a RC, but a few RCs were stripped of their title due to their actions being unsuitable (of course I won't mention any names). If they'd have been a Senior Member and acted the same, not a lot would've happened. Maybe a comment from a moderator explaining what they did wrong and that would've been the case dealt with.

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
People in a "recognized * " position are much more closely monitored. Only today, a number lost their titles due to having accumulated ANY number of infraction points. We have a high expectation of conduct from everyone, even moreso from anyone with a "special title" of any form.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
I dunno which thread this is, but I will take a look tomorrow at some point. If it's not a pointless thread, I'm sure we can figure out something.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Thank you sir, much obliged.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1471595
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Is anyone willing to try something which would meet both sides halfway?

Just had an idea. Since both ot and help threads have been brought to attention, why don't we MERGE them? Not in as it is now, but make help thread an ot ground with some rules?

I in general don't mind a bit of it and a bit of banter and do allow it but I would hate to see what Pulser is talking about (bacon, spiderman and ponies). Some with some ground rules a help thread could be a place for people to hang out AND help out and learn. Now by doing this I understand that I'm stepping into dark territory as it might end up being worse than ot, but I'm willing to try.

Are you?

Btw, spiderponies are soo last year, meerkats is the new cool thing.
[About XDA developers] pulser_g2:
I'm not here to meet half way tbh...

A combined OT and Help thread will fail. Trust me... If it is a help thread, let's make it a help thread! If there is a bit of crossover, seems fine.

But the moment you designate it as OT, it will go downhill. I think we can sort this out without causing more issues
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
Wow..just wow. They allows this and not a genuine professional pr0n0graphy app thread to be used for reviews and feedback where the OP said he would not post nudity and have NSFW tags. :rolleyes: At least that had something to do with development. Anyway that's OT here.

Regarding OT threads, as already said it's similar to the help threads by undercover except one can also go OT without getting flamed/trolled.

As for OT threads with ground rules...i dunno what the rules might be, but i like it. One "OT" thread to socialize with the device forum folk in the local forum is what most want i think.

Not sure what the problem is here? :confused:
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
Wow you can't even joke with anyone in any of these junk ot threads so I guess I will become a troll:mad::banghead::thumbdown:

don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] Deadly:
You see... this site is a world wide site... so, jokes which you might feel appropriate may not be for people from different cultures..

And you should read op posts before posting in a thread.. and should read at least some latest pages of thread to get a feel of what goes on and what not to post.. so, don't go ranting before understanding these things.. its not like you are unwelcome.. but when you enter a place where people are already knowing each other and a family kinda thing is formed.. you need to at least act like in friendly manner.. and also you made same mistake again.. this thread is not what you thought it is about. Read the thread op post once.. you will understand where you posted.. and what's the topic is about..

Please read first post of a thread before making a post in thread to avoid unnecessary embarrassment..

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Falling Doesn’t Make You a Failure, Staying Down Does
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
I'm back! Fresh from the banned wasteland

sent from my SGS3

MOD EDIT: Image removed
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
That'll get you far :rolleyes:

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
Baby steps my friend...baby steps...after all I'm not looking to be banned again so soon. XDA sux now and I'm only here anymore to drive the mods nuts. I used to be quite the contributor and helper here but the majority of mods and their actions made me what I am today. A troll.

sent from my SGS3
[About XDA developers] roofrider:
Lmao safe to say driving mods nuts will get you banned?
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
You don't want to get banned again, yet you're only here to annoy the mods?

Well done for the most sensible post ever.

Also, mods didn't make you a troll in the slightest. Being a "troll" is a choice, not something which is forced upon any of us.

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
sent from my SGS3
[About XDA developers] broncogr:
I was the one that banned you and not Diamondback.

Now.. please remove the image that you posted above and lets stay on topic.

Thanks

Broncogr

XDA Senior Moderator
[About XDA developers] undercover:
That would suit my sig well :rolleyes:

Awww,it was removed. Lighten up people!
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Is this still being looked into? A couple of days ago it sounded like the thread was going to be reviewed and a decision would be made.
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
sent from my SGS3

---------- Post added at 04:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:10 PM ----------

I know the topic of this thread the picture you removed was in spirit of it. I and my now closed thread was the reason this thread is here.

sent from my SGS3
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
Your trolling is bad and you should feel bad.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
Still being looked at. These things take time. :)

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Good to hear. Thanks for the reply.
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
started to help keep bonds that had been fostered over time

as a user/hacker of multiple devices the knowledge that I have gained from this and other devices specific ot thread has been invaluable

these older device threads are like wastelands now

?

?

and bullying like this is inexcusable for me not posting personal information on a hacker site.....WTF

as stated his thread is why this is here

Thank you

don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
Are you even aware of the posts you just quoted?

You quoted a post of mine, yet the response had nothing to do with my post. You also quoted yourself and responded with "?".

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
How ironic that you're posting that pic :rolleyes:

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
I'm sorry I guess you need to know how to read between the lines

don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] KidCarter93:
LOL. Can you even read what I wrote?

I said that your post with the quotes didn't make sense, yet that's apparently my fault for not reading?

If I hadn't read your post, I wouldn't have known that it made no sense. What's your next brilliant point?

"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
[About XDA developers] DowntownJeffBrown:
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
Well at least someone gets it:D

don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
Thank you bad bone

sent from my SGS3

---------- Post added at 06:52 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ----------

I understood everything bad bone quoted and said... Just gotta read between the lines

sent from my SGS3

---------- Post added at 07:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------

And for clarification in case anybody's wondering the reason this thread is here and the main reason alone is because one of my threads. An off topic thread I had which helped many people through its time and people from multiple devices not just the Droid x2 was targeted for closure. For no reason other then the mod in charge of the 3 oems decided he didn't like them. That was it. In his mind they had no purpose.

Now the nice little community of past and present Droid X2ers took some offense to it. Besides being an off topic thread...the damn point of it. We made every effort when anyone posted a question about any device no matter how stupid or repeated 10000000000x on here it got answered without reservation or ridicule. I'm sorry but that thread should be looked at by xda developers and used by the moderating team on how to run a forum.

Everybody here wants Android to continue to sore in the world of cell phones and it would continue if we would have places where people could kick back relax within their forum and discuss phones discuss other things and just take a damn breather. Not to mention a place where new people to the Android community can come and say hi in get advice from people without rude moderators and rude users telling them they are stupid and use the search button.

It was started by me, as not even a off topic thread, a droid x2 owner but it grew into something more.

The starter of this thread is one of the many pissed off users by the closing of my thread. He chose to be a little more diplomatic with the situation and I commend him about that.

Note: this post created entirely almost voice to text on my android phone so if I have bad grammar or use the wrong words blame my phone

sent from my SGS3
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
Ty and ty for you being you

don't be scared it's only a phone :)

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Just a friendly BUMP and seeing how things were coming along.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Bringing her back to top. How are things coming along with the review?
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Hey all. A lot of members here have been keeping an eye on this thread. We've been remaining patient, respectful (for the most part).... There have been a few pationate outbursts..... and most of all remaining hopeful a positive resolution to this problem can be found. If someone could please reply with an update we would be very appreciative. Thank you.
[About XDA developers] conantroutman:
Discussion is still ongoing folks, your continued patience is appreciated.

It might seem like this is dragging on a bit but it's important that we take the time to come up with the best possible solution to save any confusion/adjustments later on.

Sent From My Fingers To Your Face.....
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Thank you sir. And if anyone who is on your end would like to discuss anything regarding suggestions and/or solutions, please feel free to send me a PM. Thanks again.

A toast from my Gnex aboard the Satisfaction!
[About XDA developers] droidzika:
bump :(
[About XDA developers] BreatheALittle:
I was just thinking about thread yesterday! Haha. Wondered if it had been lost and forgotten. : /
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
I think that's what they're hoping happens.
[About XDA developers] droidzika:
That was back on Feb 7th.. that's a lot of discussion time for a ot thread.

__________________

It's clear to me. They do not care.
[About XDA developers] bad bone:
Agreed.sad for us that have been hanging in their:(

don't be scared it's only a phone ;):smokin:

ogd x d2g x2 gs3

old ladies :( ^
[About XDA developers] broncogr:
Well, I am not responsible to give an official answer here, but you make an interesting case.

But....

You are presenting this like a legitimate community thread got deleted...

A thread that had to do with the specific device and its community.

Yet, your post history in this thread tells otherwise......

So it is Offtopic after all.......

What a great idea !!!! Lets just thank everyone for using an offtopic thread.....

So, excuse me, do you really think we should take this thread as something not offtopic but rather something that helps the community?

Speechless........
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Ok, so your're going to pull 8 posts from a thread that is 7,260 posts long. If you read back in my previous post:

Rule # 15 is rather indistinct when it clearly says: Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting.

Nowhere does it say the amount of "minor" is defined. The way myself and others view it, we are simply following the rules.

Onto the "thanks" issue. No way can you say my statement of:

is out of line any at all. Reference the above posted Rule #2.2 if you want a thread looking for a "thanks." Obviously that isn't a deal breaker because that continually happens consistantly everyday.
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Then I guess you need to close them all, huh?
[About XDA developers] broncogr:
I am sorry, but the way I see it, at this point you have just ran out of arguments.

Pictures of pork chops, oysters, bonfires and gas pumps aren't considered minor offtopic in anyone's book.

Moreover, giving someone thanks simply for participating in an offtopic thread is a slap in the face to whoever consistently tries to help his fellow users.
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Take the thanks away then... None of us would care.
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
I'm sorry but I disagree. Nowhere in the previously stated rules have we been out of line. Moreover, I also dare to say there is several more threads out there that do break the rules and are given leniency to do so. That..... is the slap in the face.

Again. I'm not here to but heads and point fingers. What I'm asking is for answers. You have yet to show me why other threads remain open and ours was closed. Then again, you also said you were not repsonsible for official answers either.
[About XDA developers] broncogr:
Ok, I will give you the official stance on this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=36446109&postcount=314

So, since the moderation team in your section has decided not to allow offtopic threads or actually spam threads then this has you covered.

Because, from your quoted posts above as well as MANY if not the majority of your other posts in that thread that serve no meaning for me to also quote, your thread was simply an OT thread.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
Out of interest, was that thread or posts in it reported or moderators spotted it themselves?
[About XDA developers] tallyforeman:
Let's backup and regroup here. This thread has 146 posts and all of a sudden you decide to make a decision? I'm not being a smart @$$ here, but did a light bulb just decide to switch on for some reason? If the whole issue was being looked into, what was so wrong for me to ask of an update? You simply could have said something over 20 days ago instead of keeping us patiently waiting for a response.

Now if you want to point out random posts for everyone, this will surely not come to an end:

Are we thanking everyone here?

If this is really official: http://xdaforums.com/show...&postcount=314 why is it not posted here http://xdaforums.com/announcement.php?a=81 ? That is the rules....right?

The way it appears is that XDA cares about its members BUT: Make someone mad or disagree with what you say and they will change the rules on you. Even better, you will be singled out and have an example made of you.

Thus said, can we please get back to the matter at hand? The "rules" were not broken. Rule #15 is not clearly defined. The thread closing is a matter of heresay if you follow the rules. After all, it does say "follow the rules" in your signature.
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Are you asking other mods or people who posted in the thread? As far as I know there was no reason for anything to be reported or even moderated. If I'm remembering correctly there was never any invention from the mod. I think the only thing spotted was "off topic" and that's why it was closed.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
So, it actually was Off Topic thread in device general?
[About XDA developers] Ryno77:
Yeah, just like all the other sections of the forum have. A lot of the off topic threads are created by the moderator.....looks like we drew the short straw.

Had the mod intervened and asked for things to be relevant to the phone or android in general we would have gladly listened.
[About XDA developers] undercover:
I see.

Now you guys are probably not going to be happy with my point of view, but here it is anyways.

It was OT thread. It had nothing to do with any particular device apart from having users in common. But so do many threads in OT section. IMHO, they had every right to do what they did in this case. Don't forget, XDA is not a democracy.

And before anyone writes down imaginative reasons behind my opinion, please be assured that i'm the first to disagree with something that looks out of order and to argue with XDA team, as many members, RCs and Moderators can confirm. So i see this post as completely unbiased, and think that Mods are quite patient in talking to you and explaining the reasoning. I'd probably be somewhere between "deal with it" and "gtfo" by now if i was them. :)

Nothing personal.
[About XDA developers] estallings15:
Gtfo.

;)
[About XDA developers] undercover:
On my way....kthnxbye
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
Previous moderator did OK the thread and even get a laugh from my thread from time to time. That's where it would be nice for mods to actually investigate things instead of assuming things. He even posted it in the thread. Some changes and a new mod comes in and slams his hammer of communisim on it. Bunch of cow crap if you ask me. Xda continues to go downhill from the top down
[About XDA developers] droidzika:
This is insane. I would feel better if we broke all kinds of rules and had done other funky stuff in our thread.

I think it's interesting that the "thanks" issue was brought up. I was thinking about how that might be the reason why we were shut down and what I read so far validates my suspicions. Really? XDA is so upset about people getting a thanks that you close an off topic thread? -mind blown-
[About XDA developers] motcher41:
No crap. One time he cleaned a couple posts and that was due to language. It stopped asap cuz he was cool with the thread and like that present and past dx2 people had a nice little home...me XDA mods aka Hurricane Katrina. Blew our home to pieces and bent us over with out even a reach around