yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] VanillaCracker:
This rom is faster...it's not placebo. I don't flash roms expecting them to be faster, either. Because I know right away what "category" of rom it is going to be, and can infer speed from that, by itself. Obviously, this being a lighter rom, it will be faster than a much heavier rom, like your own Goldie. I'm not stating anything controversial (or that the OP tweaks are what made the speed as it is). But saying that all results are only because of a placebo effect is completely false. If you were to compare this lite rom, to another "bare bones" light rom, it would be a better comparison to which rom is faster. As of now, the most popular roms out there are Alliance (your own), Omega, and Neatrom. This rom, in comparison is much lighter, so obviously it is faster. Not placebo.

You can tweak a V-8 engine in a heavy car to be as fast as possible. But it will probably never hit 0-60 as quickly as a V-6 in a much lighter build.

EDIT: I'm sure that in a couple more months there will be an even greater variety in roms with Samsung base, and that these little tiffs will settle as users become more well accustomed to the different types of roms. There is no need to argue here. Obviously there are some people who have posted here who have great recognition. Your thanks is well recognized, and so is your opinion. But you simply misrepresent the characteristics of certain people. Not everyone will be perfectly respectful in their manners, and not everyone will follow the rules. Everyone on this site is perfectly generous to their own extent, and for that most people are extremely grateful. Their level and consistency of generosity is what makes their reputation what it is, and for that reason certain devs (and the roms they provide) will achieve this level; and others will not. Basic rules should be met, but otherwise without continued effort, their reputation will taper off.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Martillero:
I dont want to offend anyone but if i understand well, this ROM will be something like:

NeatROM + debloatware script right?

Could be much easier and simpler to make the debloat script zip (probably10 kb or so) and flash it over neat.

Its fast cause it has less apps. Its prety obvoius.

When i format my pc works like a lightning then when i instal more aps turns slower.

I repeat...dont want to disrespect anyone but i think its pointless upload/download around 400 mb when you can get the same with a couple kb.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
i dont use any debloat script, i manually remove and tweak the rom.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] hyperthrust:
What tweaks are you using for speed and battery?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] cnjax:
Yes, the million dollar question

GT-I9100 powered by

NeatRom Lite 4.3 LSD baby

SiyahKernel 6.0b4

Many40's battery tweaks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Chanz09:
This conversation is going round in circles. i have tried both roms. and to be honest they are both the same. only difference is one has less bloatware. i will not say which one is faster as when i installed neat rom i removed alot of apps which i did not like then you will see that it will be faster than before.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] fatjivi:
Something everybody wants to know. What's the secret?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Unexist6969:
Dload neatrom

Browse xda themes/apps > sgs2 removable app list

Open neatrom with winrar go /system/app blahblahblah

~~Delete appzz.apk files

Militan rom = build, epic speed&battery life yeah

Lol i'm sorry that i sound like a b*tch kuljit555 but idc at all, do w/e you want=p
[Galaxy S II Android Development] neopheX:
What a **** dev,, *opps i meant leeching rom stealer*

Get creative and learn to MOD with the best of the boys!

A friend tried it, and i had a look at his phone it isn't that fast at all lol. Wanamlite is a lot quicker even NeatROM! which seem's it nearly 95% identical.

Go play with WINRAR again :)

Or try this one, Press ALT+F4 it will give you instant GOD mode!!!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] repair_man:
A reflection...

...from a user of the Militant Rom 1.5

I've had a hard time understanding the harsh words towards kuljit55 and the ROM he have chosen to share here. Personally I enjoy his ROM a lot.

To me the answer to "the million dollar question" is in the quote below, taken from the presentation of this ROM:

"For those wanting me to completely strip this rom, that is not going to happen,

i have ONLY removed apps which consume battery & ram via its start up and background processes and are not required. i have carefully debloated, so ALL stock features are WORKING, this means NO FC's / Crashes / Bootloops.

"

Question answered, as I see it.

Secondly, does it matter how this ROM have been created?

If I, as a everyday user, experience a more responsive S2 with an even better battery life then I've experienced before, I really don't care HOW it's done, I'm just really happy that it's BEEN done. But then again, that's my point of view, for what it's worth.

What I wish for is that kuljit55 will have some peace, not being ridiculed, and being able to continue work with this ROM.

Last but not least; The "charm" of the written word is that it lacks any emotions, body language or eyes to interpret. Often that results in misunderstandings, since it's for the receiver to interpret the words written out of his or hers experiences. That doesn't necessarily means that the senders intention was interpret the way it was written...

I sincerely hope you understand what I'm trying to say ;) It's sometimes very hard to express one self in a language that's not my native tongue. What it all boils down to is; Let's move on.

PS. Maybe XDA could/should create a "Android Tweaked ROM's"- section? DS
[Galaxy S II Android Development] juanono:
This is XDA. We are not satisfied with "yeah, this works and I don't have a frigging clue on why". We want to learn, which is the only way of improving. And people wouldn't be so harsh towards OP if he hadn't been so disrespectful towards other devs and their work.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] catelusii:
Dead thread ?!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
not dead, just waiting for a UK release, also have been very busy with university.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] geekiest:
Any update ?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] raziel123:
it seems that no one taught you manners or that you never learnt any,

He clearly asked SaleSale for permission to use his rom as a base and it was granted, READ the OP

hence your claim about a "Leeching Rom stealer" is false.

give the Guy a break,

use his rom if you like or leave it, quit your foulmouthing,

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Kuljit if you post a few lines briefly stating what Tweaks you applied, that would probably eliminate a lot of doubt some poster have about the rom,

regards
[Galaxy S II Android Development] catelusii:
I need LSD release please !!! ( make one from NEAT rom and post link in PM. THAMKS !
[Galaxy S II Android Development] cnjax:
Use the real NeatRom why do you want a hacked version :banghead:

GT-I9100 powered by

NeatRom Lite 4.4

SiyahKernel 6.0b4

JB Reloaded + MyLifeRock10 blue theme

Many40's battery tweaks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] neopheX:
What kernels can you use with this rom?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Should work with most kernals
[Galaxy S II Android Development] neopheX:
Shouldn't you know? lol Seeing you created the rom?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] gundin59:
'd like to see the development of this branch.

support the above.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
At neopheX.. If you cant support other users, no need to spam the thread.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Ba7rani123:
Changelog 1.6

Samsung program moniter.apk

Is that the widget which for the samsung task manager ?

The task manager stays but the widget is removed right ?

Thanks :D
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Greatness_GH:
Am going to flash the current version and wait patiently for the next release... good work man, we appreciate you and your work. All the best. :) :thumbup:

"It Is Nice To Be Important..."

better still...

"IT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO BE NICE...

TOWARDS OTHERS!"
[Galaxy S II Android Development] areynoldsnz:
Well by that wonderful logic, why don't you use the stock Samsung Rom?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] r1akn:
Hi is all the tweaks of this rom and generally all roms in the build prop and init d files and remove of bloat or something else?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
hi am not sure i quite understand your question, but this ROM is mostly stock very minor tweaks here and there and alot of bloat has been removed. thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pupochek:
So this is just an extremely debloated NeatRom? What's the point?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pepot:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][28Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

V1.5 today?

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[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Plus tweaked, and in my opinion it is a lot faster, smoother, reliable then Neatrom also i would not say extremely debloated, all essential and necessary system apps have not been touched. furthermore this is not everybodys cup of tea. if you are a mod maniac i would not personally recommend this, this is free of foreign mods/tweaks. this is for those who want to flash a reliable stock like rom.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
links should be up later today
[Galaxy S II Android Development] r1akn:
Sounds great, when you say tweaked you mean only by build prop and init d or also something else ?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Yes.

200 plus downloads come on peeps throw me some feedback

Thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] NicOsol:
Sv: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Three words. Love this rom! It's stable, it's not bloated, it's fast as hell, I only had the rom for about 2 days now so I don't know about the battery. But it's still awesome. Keep up the good work!

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[Galaxy S II Android Development] Josemsar:
Doing Full Wipe for 1.5

To say 1.0 was really promising, 0 problems, everything fast, smooth and in my case, better battery life than with Stock or Wanam, will stay here for a while
[Galaxy S II Android Development] VanillaCracker:
Wow, this guy got 3 positive comments and was like, alright, final version then lollll.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] picard47:
Whats about the media scanner bugfix? I see no such credits so I asume its not included?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] toma62:
Congratulations good rom

I does everything well, bravo

will be 'possible future averein a version with trsparente theme?

thank you very much
[Galaxy S II Android Development] r1akn:
Check neatrom changelog
[Galaxy S II Android Development] picard47:
@r1akn

There is also no mention of the fix.

Only the LSJ Media Scanner Fix mod for the LSJ.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] XorPP:
Great work! Congrats!

I only have one question:

Which ROM has better battery life with screen on: This Rom or Neat Rom?

Once again, congrats!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pupochek:
FWIW, there are no observable differences between this rom and NetRom Lite...
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
thanks, as this is a community ROM if you have any stock like mods or apps you would like to add let me know. also am very busy right now as i have university coursework is it possible you could make a fresh batch of screenshots, i will be sure to credit you. thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
hi, this is meant to be a cleaner version of neat rom full. personally speaking and others have told me they feel this is cleaner and a little faster then neat rom, i do not intend to take credit as the rom dev but as a rom compiler. i have also gave full credit to providers of all material.

also neat rom lite has a number of mods, which cause a number of problems. go and read the thread and you will see the bugs.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
from personal experience 1.5 has gave me the best ever battery life even when compared to stock ics.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
if the fix was included in neat rom full, it will be included in this rom, if not i may add the fix if necessary.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
bro, thats how i roll.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] amirsat2012:
thx for this rom

i am now on neat rom 4.2

should i make a full wipe ?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
i would advise you to make a full clean wipe like on the instruction thread and flash 1.5, remember to android backup always. and rate 5 stars thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] VanillaCracker:
Rom runs like a champ. Am thoroughly impressed. Speed is phenomenal compared to other roms like Alliance, Omega, etc. Shows how much speed is dependent on minimal sifting (I guess??? LOL). Either way, I've got some suggestions for you.

1) Although this rom is ridden of all the BLOAT which is put into the stock rom, it still holds some of the bloat apps. I suggest (in my own personal experience) that you should get rid of AllShare, Voicetalk, VoiceCommand, Talk, Group Cast, and even the app CWM. Instead, you could set up an Aroma install (I know, adds to bulk) and offer some of these as possible options. Or, of course, you can have links to all of those apps as a possible add on for any who'd want it, so that they can easily flash after flashing the super-lite rom.

2) This is more of a personal thing for me, but some theme-able-ness would be completely great. After being used to themed battery indicators it baffles me to stick with the regular stock one (useless) with the battery percentage sitting next to it. Maybe also include a couple, or few theme-able battery indicators.

I know both of these things mess with your whole no-mods, to maintain stability aspect. But I'm sure other users would appreciate it. :p Thanks again for the rom
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Thank you very much for your feedback :

Allshare - is used by many to connect to ps3/smart tv so is quite important as a media feature.

Voicetalk, VoiceCommand, Talk - although i don't use them, many people have found to be quite a attractive feature

Group Cast- seems like a very useful and standout feature for the s2

Cwm - allows for quick boot to recovery/make nandroids etc

Skin - Definitely going to make simple cyan toggle/circle battery/wifi version

As a senior member if you can provide some simple replaceable theme files i would be grateful, and credit you.

again appreciate getting feedback as i seem to be getting many downloads, but very limited feedback

cheers
[Galaxy S II Android Development] VanillaCracker:
I understand your reasoning for keeping those apps, that's why I suggested having an option for people to add it in if they wanted. Looking forward to the skin though. Just flashed a few different roms over the last half hour. Compared this rom to FullNeat rom as well as WanamLite, and this rom is significantly faster than Neat, and noticeably faster then Wanam. Fastest to Wifi lock too, by far (imo). Nailed what matters. Now I've just got to delete a couple system apps, look for a battery indicator, and maybe re-arrangable toggles and I've found the perfect rom!
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
thank you so much some very very good advice will start on v2.0 Blue once i handed my university coursework in tomorrow,

PS. As a senior member if you can provide some simple replaceable theme files i would be grateful, and credit you. cheers
[Galaxy S II Android Development] jj_95nano:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Is it possible for you to give me these apks which aren't there in your ROM?

oSwype.

oYahoostockWidget.

oYahoostockDaemon.

oDualClockDigital.

oAccuweatherDaemon.

oAccuweatherWidget.

oAccuweatherWidget_Main.

oSecMiniDiary

oDays.apk

Unfortunately, I use those bloatware apps. Thanks!

Is it possible to enable boot sounds?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] AayushDhuria:
I agree with this guy except Talk, I can't live without Gtalk :D

You can add update package for All those apps, Voicetalk/command is really useless, i guess 1 out of 5 users use that.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] jj_95nano:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

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[Galaxy S II Android Development] picard47:
AW: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

I like this ROM but I would prefer not to remove the accu weather feature. It is a basic feature of the Samsung ROM(Lockscreen etc.) and without it there are FCs in weather settings. FCs are never nice for a "stable" ROM.

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[Galaxy S II Android Development] VanillaCracker:
+1 on the force close when selecting "Weather" subcategory under Lockscreen settings.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] gyxter:
These FC's must be caused by these being removed:

AccuweatherDaemon.

oAccuweatherWidget.

oAccuweatherWidget_Main.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] r1akn:
So take the apks from neatrom put in militant zip
[Galaxy S II Android Development] pixelhub:
i don't know if there is an easier way to do this, but to install the missing apks i needed, this is what i did.

Download XWLS8_NeatROM_Full

Extract XWLS8_NeatROM_Full.zip and go to \preload > symlink > system > app

and drag the required apks to your internal sdcard

install System Apps Installer [ROOT] form Google play

open System Apps Installer and install the apks that were dragged across.

it worked for me with

AccuweatherDaemon.apk

AccuweatherWidget.apk

AccuweatherWidget_Main.apk

cheers.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Although i don't get any force closes as i don't use accurate weather i will add the apks back in for those who need it.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] ayim:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][29Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Did u remove the applications monitor widget?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
i have in v1,6.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
To those of you in boxing me about the themed version, i have finished the first build now, however i can not upload it as i am getting ZERO feedback on 1.6 and previous version even though Militant Rom has been downloaded 500+ times in total. #INEEDFEEDBACKINORDERTOCARRYONREALEASING.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] torpedrolx:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Downloading...give feedback soon
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
thank you.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] amirsat2012:
So i think there is no differneces between v1.5 and v1.6....
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
well people who used 1.5 and accuweather complained they needed it as a basic system feature, so i added it back in, and removed a little more bloat. i want to know if this Rom has any other problems before putting out a themed/slightly modded version.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] amirsat2012:
i am using this rom now and i didnt found any problem till now

just i hope there will be more themes and mods
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
till now? what is the problem also mean time you can use pretty much any mod from the theme section and any mod for stock Samsung jb roms. also if you like the rom please rate 5 stars thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] torpedrolx:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

97% download from the s2... :)
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
klkl let me know what you think
[Galaxy S II Android Development] chungtau:
I lost 4way reboot, can anyone help? :confused:
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Hold power click restart.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] chungtau:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Only this ls8, dose not gaive any bootloop so far :D

Great rom
[Galaxy S II Android Development] gyxter:
accuweather fix

Extract this to your titanium backup folder and restore using titanium backup and enjoy. :o

View attachment accuweather.zip
[Galaxy S II Android Development] sh0ne:
hmmm gapps

Hello!

Im on download 1.6, but Im one of those who DONT want any apps on it, I even dont need the gapps ( market,.... ....) , eventually just a file explorer, nothing else.

You wrote that the 1.6 has some added aps on it, but you said a little bit debloatet it...

so 1.5 or 1.6?

Im really sick of 4.2.1 .....

Modem, is it better to put a LQ6 on it or leave LS8?

Kernel, base or other one?

And the MAIN MAIN Q: Neat 4.2 Lite or 1.6 (1.5)???

cheers & thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] klemenSLO:
I performed clean install. Till now everything works great, no FC. Transmissions are smoothe and fast.

I like it becouse is debloated and light.

In my opinion ROM must have configurable toggles bulit in.

Cant say about battery life yet...must wait few cylcles.

kuljit55 & chungtau: If yo choose restart you have 4 options : reboot,hotboot,download,recovery

greetings from sLOVEnia
[Galaxy S II Android Development] picard47:
Great ROM so far. Nevertheless I would appreciate if you could check on this: Media Scanner Fix.

It could minimize the media wakelocks. It seems Neat ROM hasn't it implemented yet.

I am currently on Omega 19.2 with integrated fix and battery life is great.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Phillz kerbel is giving me great battary personaly, i have removed most bloat, removing others will break system features such as wifi direct,hdmi adapter, lockscreen weather. I think 1.6 is quite clean and only contains system required features. But if your lookong for a extremely stripped rom, militant is not for you. I would stick woth ls8 modem. Thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Thanks for the advice, but tbh media scanner has been working flawlessly for me, anyone have any problems?
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Blue Config toggles, blue battery/wifi, call recording. Nexus 4 camera, and more coming soon
[Galaxy S II Android Development] torpedrolx:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

After a day of use with data always on, browsing and a lot in xda app...sync on everything. the rom is very good, fast...and no freezes. And synced all my apps, that certain roms dont do.

Im not the perfect tester to test the hearth of the rom , but for a normal use its good.

Hope it helps
[Galaxy S II Android Development] picard47:
AW: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

I just noticed that on ROMs without the fix the media scanner is quite high in the battery ranking list. With the fix the media scanner ist partially not even on the list.

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[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

Hmm very interesting but as ppl are telling me they are getting good battary life. I think this is not a problem. But i will look in to it. Thanks
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Filgaliel:
Re: [ROM][CWM][XWLS8][30Jan][The Militant Rom][4.1.2][Final]

The button backlight keeps lighting up on touch even though I've disabled it in settings..
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
sorry mate, it must be a you problem, as i have turned mine off and it works perfectly. wipe x 2 and flash might fix your problem,
[Galaxy S II Android Development] Filgaliel:
Strange. I wiped everything prior to flashing. I usually do. I´ll try again.
[Galaxy S II Android Development] kuljit55:
very strange, be sure to let me know how it gos

thanks