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[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
You bought the LTE version, the H+ version is not yet out for preorder yet and i confirmed this with their live chat for you :)
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
Ok. Now what? Should I cancel ? I don't think it would be compatible with att lte here in usa. If I don't pick lte I'm sure it would switch to h+ I'm assuming
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Hopefully as reflected by Digital Phone, the contract prices will be similar from Orange/Tmobile. Have been looking for a rough guide price so thanks for that!
[Xperia Z General] piligrimm:
In Russia this one is expected for 27000 RUB ($900). So expensive..
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
- 4Launch.nl: €629 black, white

- gsmwijzer.be: €640

- PDAshop.nl: €629 black & white
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Thank you for your links. Have updated the post accordingly.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
The xperia Z supports AT&T's 2100 frequency for 4G so it SHOULD work in most case. And for 3G it supports AT&T's 3G network using the 850Mhz band. All in all should work fine :)
[Xperia Z General] Droidyou:
From Tmobile with the free Sony MDR-1R worth 250 euro :)
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
Computeruniverse has XZ for the same price as clove, but it comes with a dock and some weird sony tags instead of clove's useless BT speaker. Hmmm....
[Xperia Z General] Aka91:
€ 635.77

Price comes to this!

After shipping to my country (India) !

btw !

Handtec is offering the device for 415 pounds

which is great i think

The money i am saving from not buying from clove!

I can get the dock from that or maybe further accessories

€ 635.77 is just too much!
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
How so? € 528 + DHL shipping for € 29 (or UPS for € 97 :eek: )
[Xperia Z General] robogo1982:
It's 775 € over here - what are you lot complaining about?
[Xperia Z General] TheKingOfPain:
Retail price is 649€ here in Italy (available from February 26), still can't find a better price.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
@XiFIL have you got any of my PM's about the warranty? Not sure if my PM's are working or not, is there a limit per day?
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
No i didn't bro?! I will try and send you one!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Hmm its kinda irrelevant now though... The screen must've been that bad for you to be so disappointed :(
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yes, its so bad my S2 from 2011 looks SOOOO much better compared to it, i work for vodafone and i have the final units and they are seriously washed out, looks like i will be passing out on this one :(!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Yeah but S2 is AMOLED so contrast will look better etc... I've read on other threads what Viper has put, it's put me off a bit but after what I saw I was far from happy with the device... Thanks for your feedback tho and look with whatever you choose :thumbup:
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
The nexus 4 is even better than the xperia Z, with a 720p screen and lower PPI, i hope all goes well for you!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I will wait and see it in flesh and decide... Will no doubt message on here in future :)
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Good luck my friend, hope all goes well!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
You too! :beer:
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
hahahah thank you bro, you too! :drunk:
[Xperia Z General] miams:
xperia z available on Middle east at first week in march about $680 :victory:

no LTE version :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] grtmoby:
where from did you know that it will not support LTE
[Xperia Z General] cooltranier13px:
He most likely found that out by which model they are releasing. Not all models have LTE.
[Xperia Z General] paul-c:
I have decided to get a Nexus 4, myself. The Z is too much money for the screen to be questioned at all, in my mind.

Edit: I'm just going to wait for the price of the Z to come down a little bit. I'm jealous of all the people in Europe and Japan that can just walk into a store and see one in person. I won't have that chance here in Chicago. Makes things tougher.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ion
[Xperia Z General] miams:
C6602

2G Network	GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

3G Network	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100

SONY-ME say xperia ZL will release with LTE later
[Xperia Z General] millicent:
Beware of google checkout

Hope that my recent google checkout experience might help someone, especially if it involves currency conversions. It is about a xz preorder.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=38286577#post38286577
[Xperia Z General] skylinrcr01:
I know, for once, us americans get screwed over :(
[Xperia Z General] geovision:
I saw it in Greece for 639€ in an e-shop
[Xperia Z General] dead0911:
GSMNation

GSMNation dropped the C6602 and now only have the C6603 for sale.
[Xperia Z General] Imdking:
For once? That's all the time! Since the days of the X1, we've been getting the releases months later. Importing from the UK and Japan has been the only way to get new handsets in decent time, albeit expensive!
[Xperia Z General] robogo1982:
Which one? Do they ship outside of Greece?
[Xperia Z General] rttnpig]:
611€ on amazon.es

http://www.amazon.es/gp/product/B00AXSXDFI/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Xperia Z General] ssj_jaypee:
Handtec is still the cheapest option by far.

I wonder how they are able to offer the phone 100 less than all the other competitors? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] marcgear:
Think the deal over at AsdaDirect is over was just about to preorder and found it out of stock shame.
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Why did Handtec changed its warranty to 12 monthes instead of 24 monthes? :(
[Xperia Z General] Crocodile1973:
100 less than all? Amazon only couple pounds more.
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
Come on handtec. Just ship my damn xperia z noooooowwww
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
Ha. Yeah all those products the rest of the world gets before the UK and Europe, or we don't get them at all, and you get them cheaper, we have to pay 20+% tax on all non Europe based products, bearing in mind most electronic products come from either America or Asia. Yeah we have it better.
[Xperia Z General] harfot:
...and now it's changed back to 24 months :)
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Phewwww they just confuse me :p
[Xperia Z General] Crocodile1973:
Take it back Amazon have decided to increase the price to £524.99
[Xperia Z General] BlitzyMannna:
Im getting the XZ from three. It costs £459 locked to three and they will unlock for £15

So altogether i will end up paying..............£475

Is this the cheapest so far??
[Xperia Z General] JoeMBlair:
Your bootloader will still be locked and as far as I know you won't be able to get it unlocked either. Only XZ which are sim unlocked from the start can be.
[Xperia Z General] BlitzyMannna:
Are you 100% sure??

And by you saying sim locked from the start, does that mean i can only unlock the bootloader if it is still locked?:(
[Xperia Z General] thefunkmiester:
Anyone know which will be the best place to walk in and buy a sim free xperia z, I would rather just collect instead of waiting in for the post man. Thanks.
[Xperia Z General] Dsteppa:
Yeah well, depends what country you're in.
[Xperia Z General] JoeMBlair:
I meant to say sim unlocked, sorry for the confusion. If you have access to a Three Store you should be able to check.
[Xperia Z General] thefunkmiester:
Sorry, in the UK...
[Xperia Z General] BlitzyMannna:
Thanks for the info.

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I've checked on the carphonewarehouse website and it says the XZ is in stock, so you should just be able to walk in and buy the handset. It will be a good idea to check the stock on the website for the CPW stores near you just in case.

The CPW stores near me have it in stock, so ill be buying one tomoro;)
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
Deposit has increased cause official price at Sony store is $750. (remember no branding is better :thumbup: )

25% deposit.

They said hopefully next week. Let's hope. :beer:

Australia - Melbourne.
[Xperia Z General] Edwrib:
Don't have yet any sim free in US/NYC? Ty.
[Xperia Z General] mikejon668:
I think amazon is best and easy for me.
[Xperia Z General] harfot:
Right now £499.00 @Amazon UK
[Xperia Z General] RF12:
Someone please let us know where to get the C6602 model.

gsm nation has it on pre-order but is there anyone selling it right now?
[Xperia Z General] paul-c:
The c6602 model is staying elusive. Not sure what's up with that. People are reporting that H+ works pretty well with AT&T on the c6603 model, so I might just end up going with that.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR i
[Xperia Z General] RF12:
Really? 3G on 850MHz and LTE on 2,100MHz

But it's useless on T-Mobile, right?

Where do people buy the C6603 in the US?
[Xperia Z General] paul-c:
Yep, T-Mobile is out. I've seen a few on eBay for sale.

Sent from my Motorola RAZR i
[Xperia Z General] OneThousandAndOneNames:
Do you guys know where can I find the purple one? International shipping is a must, since I live in Brazil.

Thanks.
[Xperia Z General] jatt101:
Check negri electronics
[Xperia Z General] OneThousandAndOneNames:
They won't ship to Brazil due issues with Brazilian customs. Usually, we pay over 60% on imported goods. :'(
[Xperia Z General] jatt101:
Try expansys, gsmnation, handtec, or clove
[Xperia Z General] OneThousandAndOneNames:
I will buy from Handtec, their price is very good. Unfortunately, they don't have the purple one. I'm going white, just like my G.Nex.

Thanks!
[Xperia Z General] ziich:
just get it from handtec its like $650 with 2 day shipping
[Xperia Z General] ~iPod~nano~:
In indonesia, still pre-order, at Rp 7.499.000 (about 760-780 USD)

buy with bank credit cards (very limited stock) ,Rp 6.999.000 (about 710-730 USD)
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Looking to sell my XZ, what is the current cheapest price (uk) so I know a rough price to sell it for?

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z General] juDGEY2k10:
£450 is the cheapest u can buy it for from 3 unlocked u looking around £499
[Xperia Z General] Tejstar:
You can pick it up for £454.99 unlocked from mobilephonesdirect.
[Xperia Z General] ayydin:
I watched a video in youtube comparison with SGS3 and the S3 had a much more clean screen visibility + better performance. Can it be faken somehow? Xperia Z is a monster dream specs and I really wonder how is possible to open apps slower than S3.
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
The X Z might not be runing the latest update which fixes opening issues, but the S3 has most likely been updated to that performance over time, and was probably worse to begin with.

As for the screen, they're going to be different quality, the S3 might be better but I doubt it. Viewing angles and colour reproduction will vary, as will crispness of the resolution through PPI. On paper the X Z is a better phone, with better screen and bravia engine.

Let's not forget you saw them on a video, not the best way to make a screen and color comparison.
[Xperia Z General] ayydin:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1G8HWoqxwo

This video is I watched but the horrible blury screen is in all comparison videos. I hope you are right and this blur is only in camera lens and actually the quality for the eyes seeing directly is much better.
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
The screen didn't look blurry to me, have you thought it could be the refresh rate of the screen?

The X Z has a great screen with great white balance, the S3 looks like it has a HDR effect on its screen and makes the colors pop, but also looks tacky, lower resolution and unrealistic white and blacks.

And the only app here really used was Temple Run, yes, it opened first, but it's hardly a big deal.

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On another note... I saw one pre-owned in CEX today. Now I am sad :(
[Xperia Z General] kekedaine:
my dream :highfive:
[Xperia Z General] ayydin:
No there's browser experience too, anyway I am a big Sony fan and customer too but I am not impressed at all from Xperia Z. I was expected to be much more faster than S3 it have such specs and this results, no thanks. Seem like my next device is still not exist, but is not so bad in the end.
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
Well actually, all super duper smartphones are, arguably unnecessary, because the android experience is limited, basically if you have the best phone, its still limited to the performance of android, and the apps that are available. But to say the S3 is better is surely a subjective point of view?

It's wether or not the improvements effect your usage.
[Xperia Z General] jamesbra:
Being an American and ignorant of such things, is expansys considered reputable?
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
But you guys have official support from Sony such as free warranty. :)
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
They are yes. Pricey tho negrielectronics it's been good to me as well
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Yeah almost forgot this when I was considering the tax free :D Plus I'm not sure if this is correct but I heard you get 2years warranty there. If that's the case I wouldn't mind paying the extra fees.
[Xperia Z General] dawgpound6985:
If you buy a handset from Handtec and are not in the UK, you can still make use of the 2 year warranty. You just have to send it in to them and wait a few weeks. I bought my GSM Galaxy Nexus from them and had to use the warranty because my phone got hit with the brick bug. Sent it to them from the US and got there within a few days bootloader unlocked and all because it just wouldn't boot so I couldn't restore it to factory. Either way, no questions were asked by Samsung or Handtec. Repair and return took about 2 weeks total but it was a long wait because I had to go back to my Galaxy S from the Nexus.

tl;dr Handtec will cover warranty for you as long as you ship it to them (can get expensive depending where you're from) and yes its 2 years.

Oh I forgot to add. They sent the repaired phone to the original address that I purchased the device from. So if you moved within those 2 years, it might be an issue. I specifically told Handcent to send it to my newer address multiple times and they sent it to the original address any way. Luckily, its my parent's address so I just picked it up from them. Just something to keep in mind for those 2 years.

One more add. I got hit with international currency conversion fees on my credit card for I forget how much percentage of the price (I think 3%) but I'm not sure if there's a way around the fees. I did not know I was going to get hit with those fees beforehand by the way. It was tacked on after the receipt from Handtec.
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Gsmwijzer is €640, not €532 ;) €532 is with network subsrciption :p
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Oh It is awesome that I can get my warranty here, too :) ! But, the process of buying the phone looks complicated :(
[Xperia Z General] Fasty12:
refund

Regarding hantec if i buy from them and the phone is too laggy for me can i return and get full refund?
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Too laggy isn't a reason for a refund or repair... Unless it was a factory defect where your phone was shipped with a single core or something.
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
The Price at Handtec dropped! :)
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
Lol to funny

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Wtf. I'm going to email them Wtf I paid 430
[Xperia Z General] dawgpound6985:
Yeah it is. Have to make sure the bands are compatible, etc. Makes no sense why companies can't just make one device with all of the bands in a phone. It would save them money in resources of supporting multiple devices instead of just one. Sure it could be a little thicker but its one phone instead of many. Oh well.

They would probably refund but you'll probably get hit with a restocking fee.

Handtec, Clove and Expansys are pretty good about the price adjustment. They even price match each other FYI. From what I remember though, Handtec had the cheapest shipping so that's why I went with them.
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
They just credited me 28 dollars. Wow that was fast. Handtec rules
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Misread so please excuse.
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Increasing a modem's band has consequence. And it's battery life. The more bands enabled on your phone the higher power it consumes. I'm not sure about my theory yet but possible that we could cross flash basebands of different versions of Z to change it to HSPA version or LTE version since they have the same modem chipset. Sony just divides those bands depending on what country are you. They try to make it as less as possible.
[Xperia Z General] dawgpound6985:
I guess I'll wait and see what happens when the devices come out. It might be the same hardware deficiency as the Nexus 4. The radio chipset is the same as the Optimus G but there is no amplifier to boost the signal making it not usable/non-existent for those supported bands. If they did add all those bands, I don't see why they couldn't disable them by software to save on battery life if that was the case. Android does allow you to choose which bands to enable/disable with the dialer codes so battery shouldn't be compromised either way. I know I was able to force my Galaxy S to certain bands to save on battery.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Wow?! did they give you money back since the price reduced?!
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Clove is £522 now :)
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
With delivery it comes to a total of £530, just about the same
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
Yes :p that's true :D
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Was always £522. They just rounded it up including delivery. Waiting to see if they drop the price to match Handtec. Fingers crossed.
[Xperia Z General] charlatan01:
I picked Clove because I had a recent experience with them that was nothing short of amazing. Living in another country, I always had a little hesitation buying things overseas because I thought it would complicate matters should warranty work be required. Both Clove and Sony were very responsive and helpful and followed through on some issues I had with a 'T'.

I don't work for them or benefit from this at all, just thought I'd throw it out there for people considering them.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Does any1 know which model I'd buy for T-Mobile USA?
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
If I'm not mistaken none of them would pick h+ or 3g with t mobile. Just edge
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
I wish at&t would hurry and announce it
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I doubt AT&T is going to carry it. Unlocked only I suspect.
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
AT&T is Sonys main partner in U.S. Verizon and T mobile is not known to carry as many if any Xperia phones in the United States
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Typical Sony ugh...

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I might buy it unlocked and get an at&t prepaid plan. I can't stand contracts
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
There is big chances that att would sell the Xperia z I'm sure they would...
[Xperia Z General] androidindian:
Sony Xperia Z can be pre-ordered for less than £500 in the UK, could be launched in February: http://wp.me/peL1j-m3o
[Xperia Z General] mattman83:
Typical T-Mobile with their almost unique network requiring a t-mobile specific variant that can't be sold/used on basically any other network in the world. *That* is why it's less likely to be on t-mobile.

M.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Oh =(
[Xperia Z General] evildave_666:
Reputable enough that Google has them handle fulfillment and logistics for all Nexus 7 Play Store purchases in Asia.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
I still doubt AT&T is going to carry the Xperia Z though. Sony sort of stopped caring about the US this year until they have a good market position in Europe and Japan. It'll bring the devices to the market but probably without LTE, as I don't think the C6603's LTE will work on the US bands.

So basically, no LTE on AT&T with any Xperia Z model (and no, just supporting one of the many possible bands is not enough). And AT&T will not carry any high-end device that doesn't have LTE.
[Xperia Z General] kornklown69:
I would do some research if I was you on the LTE bands at&t has in the States and the band's the lte variant of the Z uses.... I mean did u see the world map Sony released last week? the United States is blanketed as compatible I wouldn't doubt that the at&t version will use both LTE and HSPA+
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
Really? Wups. Sorry, it's late and it's been a while since I last checked it.

I still doubt AT&T is going to carry it though...
[Xperia Z General] djq:
this is sonys flagship phone it will most definitely come to the US with LTE and all other features
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
Agreed. And att always carry Sony xperias
[Xperia Z General] krabappel2548:
I'm planning to order in the UK, since they sell the phone free/unlocked I supppose bootloader can always be unlocked? Or am I wrong :p
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Buy it from the UK and you will get an unlockable bootloader and 2 years warranty with the device
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
The 3G networks that the xperia Z supports are:

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - C6603 - xperia Z

Tmobile USA use the 1700 band and the 1900 band for 3G

for 4G the xperia Z supports

LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - C6603

tmobile's 4G network only supports the 1700Mhz frequency

so it appears that the C6603 model of the xperia Z does not support the 3G or 4G version of the xperia Z.

It does however work fine with the HSPA+ version of the xperia Z

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - C6602

as you can see the xperia Z supports Tmobile's 3G network (1700 and 1900 Mhz).

So if your willing to get the device with only H+ then it can, work with tmobile although there is not any H+ models to be seen as of now.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
The xperia Z's 3G bands are:

HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100 - C6603

AT&T's 3G network use the 850Mhz/1900Mhz Band, therefore if you got the xperia Z then 3G and H+ would work fine on AT&T's network.

The xperia Z's lte bands that are:

LTE 800 / 850 / 900 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - C6603

AT&T use the 700Mhz , 1700Mhz and 2100Mhz band for lte. The xperia Z only supports the 2100Mhz, so you COULD actually get 4G but it would be pretty weak, as it's only taking advantage of AT&T's one 4G band instead of 3.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Same :( i don't want to have to pay £530 for it if handtec are doing it for £499, then again clove has it in white and gives a free speaker so £30 extra perhaps well spent. If handtec get it in white i may think of getting it!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I am really hesistant on buying from them, i have heard a lot of bad reviews about them. Would you recommend buying from them? How was customer service?
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Ah, 3g is good enough for me =)
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
I find that somewhat surprising. I have heard nothing but positive feedback.

Btw, does anyone know when phones4u will be expecting stock of the Z and how much sim free?
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Phones4U sim free will be £560, seen it on their youtube channel, they always add their own fee's to sim free phones to make a profit. I would probably buy it from clove or amazon ( if the price on amazon goes down). I am not sure if i am honest, go on their twitter, and you will see a list of complaints and all sort's from unhappy customers.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
If your willing to wait a little longer after the launch of the C6603 model the C6602 model will be released shortly after.
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
That is exactly what I was trying to say. I highly doubt AT&T is going to carry a phone that doesn't completely work on their network. Using just one LTE band might not be enough, depending on how AT&T rolls out their network.
[Xperia Z General] flipstylez86:
Can this be activated on Verizon?
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Oh, okay thanks. Was hoping it may have been a bit cheaper at phones4u. When I purchased the S from phones4u on it's release, it was only £399 where some other retailers were charging £430 plus. May consider buying it from Clove, Handtec or even Carphonewarehouse.
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Why on Handtec is the phone model number known as the ET964 where other websites its C6603. Is this some sort of other version.