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[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Hope you don't use much data, their plans max data is 1gb

Nexus 4

Franco r93

PROJECT ELE
[Nexus 4 General] esoxx:
Good point. I'm actually in wifi about 80% of the time.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
My instincts tell me that you're correct.

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And on a more positive note...............

I just installed a Straight Talk AT&T compatible micro sim in a Sony Xperia ion.

Both voice and data are working flawlessly. Pleasantly surprised by this, due to complaints I've read about in other forums concerning APN settings/data failure. (I just used the APN settings posted in the activation pamphlet)
[Nexus 4 General] dougeeebear:
The following MVNO's have been reported to be on the AT&T network.

I don't know this for sure, just hearsay.

They may be good, maybe not, just more choices.

As always, do your research.

Airvoice Wireless

good2Go Mobile

H20 Wireless

Jolt Mobile

Pure Talk USA

Red Pocket
[Nexus 4 General] kingstatus:
****in straight talk just throttled me last night. I paid my month on the 25th, have been on wifi 90% of the time aaand I had set my data usage limit on my phone. Literally I've been monitoring my data usage since they throttled me last month too and I'm barely at 200mbs and they throttled me.. what the **** man.. I'm hella disappointed I swear.. anyone else experiencin being throttled way under a gig???
[Nexus 4 General] unsivil_audio:
Yeah its a common problem. Just out of curiousity, how did you how did you have data usage limited? If I get my throttle lifted, I'm gonna try limiting at 100mb/day.
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Was it confirmed it was throttled? My area was having issues yesterday i guess, had slow data to no data at all. The following day all was working good again.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using neighbors wifi :P
[Nexus 4 General] kingstatus:
Its a stock galaxy Note setting but I'm sure other phones have it as well?
[Nexus 4 General] kingstatus:
No I didn't get to call this morning but I will tomorrow and I'll update.. hopefully you're right and its just a glitch in the matrix lol..
[Nexus 4 General] scottx .:
Had this same issue trying to get myself another sim for a friends att phone. Ended up using walmarts website with the ship to store method. They had the att Sims in stock and two days later we had them. This was a few weeks ago.
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
They are all long gone now. Only option is ebay for 50-60 bucks. Lol

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using neighbors wifi :P
[Nexus 4 General] beer-2k:
http://www.facebook.com/StraightTal...7569?comment_id=26907507&notif_t=feed_comment

and

http://www.facebook.com/StraightTal...7569?comment_id=26916113&notif_t=feed_comment
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
One thing that needs to be cleared up is that its not ST throttling you its AT&T. ST has no control over the network hardware. If you exceed 50 MB in a day (1.5 GB/30 days per month) or 1.5 GB total in a month you will most likely get throttled. The easiest way to get throttled is to keep running speed tests, it consumes 12 - 25 MB each time, I don't even bother using it any more. I keep to wifi 95% of the time now and use mobile data only when I have absolutely no other option. And like a lot of people TMo isn't an option for me so this is what I'm stuck doing for the time being.
[Nexus 4 General] akenis:
Darn... Finally convinced a friend to order a N4. But she hasn't orderer ATT ST Sim. Couple of questions:

1. Maybe shed be fine with tmob ST. Coverage is fine in town and I've heard data is faster. Its lacking a bit in Rural parts of SC. Does this data get throttled like att ST?

2. She could go with $30 T mobile prepaid but says 100 mins won't do. Isn't it only $10 for an extra 100? Is there a difference between data speeds and limits between here and T-Mobile ST?

3. She could try one of the others...Solvai or Net 10. See that Net 10 has att sims also but there's now a 1.5 GB limit. Is that a hard limit or a throttled limit?

Thanks for any advice.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Currently TMo data doesn't get throttled like AT&T but that could change at any time as it up to TMo to decide if they want to be pricks like AT&T or not.

I don't believe you have any options to add phone time with the $30 TMo plan, but I only had it for a month so not totally sure. I thought they just billed you at a flat per minute rate after the first 100 minutes.

TMo should give you better data speeds.

Net10 is ST they are owned by the same company and the throttling is the exact same since it is controlled by AT&T not the MVNO.

They throttle you down to 2g speeds which is basically useless.
[Nexus 4 General] akenis:
Thanks... Clears bit up a bit. Just got back from Walmart. They seen to be selling Walmart Family plan as well. $45 unlimited (first 250mb at 3g) but you can add data.

Hey if someone really wants ST on AT T, can't u buy one of the cheap phones and use the Sim? How do u know which sim is in the phone?
[Nexus 4 General] alexv305:
The unlocked GSM sim card does put you on the AT&T network. Notice the part that says "Phone must operate in 850 and 1900 MHz bands". Only AT&T uses 850 and 1900 for data. T-mobile is rolling out 1900 but Straight Talk will put you on AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
If you do that you won't have any data I'm pretty sure.
[Nexus 4 General] jhax01:
Yeah, but when you try to actually buy one, the only option available is a T-Mobile SIM...
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Has anyone played with switching SIMs on the same account? Im in a T-Mobile area but often go into the mountains for work where the old cingular network is better (AT&T old shcool) and wondering if there might be value in my AT&T ST SIM for that period.

If it was simply as easy as calling, having them switch the sim on the account and then switching it back at the end of the week then I will keep the AT&T sim.
[Nexus 4 General] kingstatus:
Anybody on simple mobile.
[Nexus 4 General] DrPepperLives23:
Can anyone speak from experience about T-mobile Straight Talk? I live in an area with good coverage, but the 100 minutes on their $30 a month plan isn't cutting it. Ordered a ST T-Mobile Sim CArd. Hoping to get at least 4-5gb of data without being throttled. Anyone on T-mobile ST being throttled? How much data do you use? Also, can you voice/text roam on ATT?
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Only used about 500mb in a month but was easily pulling 17-18mb/s in Atlanta proper.
[Nexus 4 General] uToTMeH8:
I used 60 GB last month and never got throttled. This is in central Massachusetts, not sure about where you are.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Using an AT&T sim, or a T Mobile sim ?
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
A T Mobile sim, he's talking to the poster who asked if they're getting throttled.
[Nexus 4 General] gamepr:
Straight talk att throttled me at 600mb!!! Just because I streamed Sirius xm for a couple days.
[Nexus 4 General] yokem55:
Streaming media is explicitly against their terms of service, full stop. Don't be surprised when you get throttled after you've steamed some kind of media.
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Yup.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using neighbors wifi :P
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
That's just nuts, in this day in age EVERYONE streams music/video. It doesn't even make since to forbid something that's so common among users. That's just being greedy:(
[Nexus 4 General] wctom:
yeah...service-wise I'm starting to miss my old Sprint service: slow (600-1000kbps) data but available in all of my usual haunts and no limits until 5 G/month. I don't remember the TOS but I streamed and downloaded without having to look at the clock.

With my N4: T-mobile has great data but useless even slightly outside of downtown cores. I couldn't even get phone service at home (a mile from a major tourist area).

ST ATT works well, but I don't want to constantly check to see if I'm butting against some limit. Also, I don't make a habit of streaming, but many websites (including professional sites) make use of streaming.

I will prob. have to go back to Verizon or Sprint, and pay thru the nose.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Sprint is actually pretty decent with 3g when you've got 4 full bars, but if your in an area where you've only got 1 bar, carrier pigeons would probably deliver world news at a quicker pace.
[Nexus 4 General] Rawlster93:
Can you guys w the Att branded phones and Att compatible sim can you guys do me the favor of looking up the smsc?

You can do this by hitting *#*#4636#*#* then looking under phone information and hit refresh in the smsc line and post it on here?

I'm using straight talk service using a Samsunginfuse and I am not receiving any or sending any SMS. this happend from the time i went to sleep to the time i woke up. I've been using it for a couple of months and think this is strange. Had this everhappen to any of you? And thank you in advance
[Nexus 4 General] umarali:
well i have iphone 5 from straight talk activated on the verizon network supposedly since there isnt any sim card in the phone i stream audio and youtube about everyday and have had phone for about week, still pulling about 2000kbps using 3g data speed. so far im very satisfied with the straight talk service, havent had any issues yet.

im coming from tmobile, though i liked their data speeds on 4g but 3g is doing whatever i wanted to do so im happy for not paying 70 everyonth and not having good coverage while travelling.
[Nexus 4 General] ryan stewart:
Not in Atlanta. I could have 7 of 5 bars and still get maybe a half a meg.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
Replacement AT&T SIM QUESTION????

I received a replacement AT&T micro SIM from ST the other day. What I am wondering is, could I use it in my brothers phone instead? Here's a quick run down: I had a loooonnnnnggg conversation with them about a potential throttling of my phone. They said it wasn't. They couldn't figure out the issue with my data speeds (extremely slow, 250kbps) their only conclusion was, I was now living in a new area and the computer noticed this and slowed my speeds because of it. There solution was: Send me a "new" SIM and activate it with a new number. Lose my old number and old SIM. My speeds are now fine because of the new billing period. (I was being throttled) Do you think I can just give it to my brother with no hassle? He lives out of state. I figure I must have a blank SIM card that can be activated just like any other new SIM card. Ideas? Thought? Concerns? Every response will get a thanks meter button push!!! Thanks again for your help XDAers!!!!
[Nexus 4 General] scottx .:
Yes. Give it to him.
[Nexus 4 General] DrKabookenstein:
I'm using ST too, based on the way I set it up you should be able to give it to him. He'll probably just have to set it up with his name. Just delete it from your acct then have him add it to his. This also assumes his phone is unlocked.

How did you get the AT&T Sim card though?
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
Guess I've been throttled? ST AT&Tsim.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
oh no!!

How much data have you used? Too much one day or, too much in a month? Any stats on what you think would be very helpful for all. Thanks!!
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Also too many of them data speed test hog up all the data. So if u do 10-12 tests in a day, you’ve crossed the st daily limit lol. I just stopped doing test for that reason, that app is a data hog.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using neighbors wifi :P
[Nexus 4 General] scottx .:
Being throttled myself. Switching to T-Mobile monthly 4g when my thirty days run out on my St.

Sucks. It used to be a lot better. I've had it for a good while and in the last month its gone to hell.
[Nexus 4 General] NYZack:
From ST's Terms and Conditions: what is prohibited is (section 6) "(iii) uploading, downloading or streaming of uninterrupted continuous video;" Note that this specifies video, not audio. In a separate section (for their home phone plan), they exclude audio as well, but not apparently for their cell phone service. Point me elsewhere if I'm missing something.
[Nexus 4 General] ritchea:
Yes, but do you see an explanation of just what "uninterrupted continuous video" is? Of course not. This is the real situation, ST has the right "to deny or terminate Service, to anyone Straight Talk believes is using the Straight Talk Unlimited Talk, Text and Mobile Web Access Plan in an unauthorized manner or whose usage, in Straight Talk’s sole discretion, adversely impacts the Carrier’s network or customer service levels. There's just too much of this "in any other manner that

we deem to be unreasonable or excessive

." The "we" varies, as does the interpretation of unreasonable or excessive.

I haven't ever had a problem using ST for 9 months on 2 phones and 6 months on another 2. One switched from AT&T to T-Mobile in November and has much better speed and coverage, but T-Mobile barely exists in my rural area. None of us use a great deal of data per month, but once in a while, a day away from wifi could result in +100MB--some of which could be wifi tethering to a tablet which is NOT against their current TOS.

It's just such a shady way to do business. Yet, for the time being, I'm still doing business with them. At least we can use our phones. The last year of 12 years with Sprint, we barely had a signal at our house---same house/location the entire time.
[Nexus 4 General] wareju:
I used to stream Pandora for hours a night delivering pizza's, did that for months no problem. Now I'm throttled in half a month with what I'd call conservative usage. What good is unlimited data if you can't stream or download or upload? That literally just leaves app usage and web browsing, which is perfectly fine on a capped plan. Those smarmy bastards.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Did your replacement come with a leaflet with instructions to visit either net10 or st URL for activation?
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
Yes it did. Not the whole activation packet. But its a blank SIM. ST told me when I activate it, it will be a brand new number.So I guess I have an extra one in case I ever want to switch my number and stay on ST AT&T service.
[Nexus 4 General] MkVsTheWorld:
If you require an AT&T SIM, you can still acquire one from the Nokia E71 and do a SIM swap. This does require buying a phone @$49.99. Now, more than likely, you'll live in a market where the Nokia won't be an available option. To bypass it on their website:

1. Go to www.straighttalk.com

2. Go to Shop >> Phones

3. Enter your zip code and click Continue

4. Confirm zip code by clicking Yes.

5. In the end of the URL in your browser's URL bar, there should be a part of it that says "market=GSM5SPRCO&gotoPhonelist=true". Change the value 5 to 4. Ie market=GSM4SPRCO&gotoPhonelist=true

6. Add phone to shopping cart and profit.

Note: I haven't full tested this out and you have to buy a refill. It does let you go as far as adding it to your cart and entering payment information. I found this solution on a thread at HowardForums.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
Could be worth a shot. My only reservation would be you get it with an T-Mobile SIM inside. Thanks for head up.
[Nexus 4 General] MkVsTheWorld:
That would be really mean lol. Since it wouldn't do 3G everywhere T-Mobile could because the refarm isn't finished. Also, the phone is probably SIM locked to AT&T anyways. I'd doubt Straight Talk would SIM unlock a phone because they almost never do that, except for the iPhone and that's a rare exception.

Here's the frequency info on that phone:

http://www.e71fanatics.com/2008/07/nokia-e71-variants-bands-model-numbers.html?m=1
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
This was a trick question. I guess it didn't translate too clearly.

Anyways, it seems all tracfone byop Sims are compatible and interchangeable. Net10 Sims are cheaper and easier to find online. As noted with the replacements sent out.

GL YMMV
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
ohhh, I am late to the game. Gotcha.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Net 10 still has an official 1.5 GB data cap, for att sims.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
Except they no longer sell them. That is for all existing accounts on AT&T with Net10.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Walmart.com still has them.
[Nexus 4 General] mjpado:
You get a thanks!
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Well, since I'm selling ATT micro sims on eBay, I probably just shot myself in the foot !!

Oh well, it's only money.

Net 10 micro sims might be the economical alternative to Straight talk micro-sims, but since Straight Talk has been Wally World's flagship cell service for so many years, they'd probably be shooting themselves in the foot if they announced a 1.5 GB data cap for Straight Talk. I don't think they're gonna to do it.

If you want a Straight Talk AT&T micro sim buy one now, before they go up to $200 each. A couple have already sold at that price.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Mooooooooooo-ve your sales pitch somewhere else :D
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
ONLY if activated on net10. No "official" cap if activated on st, yet.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Who me ? Whatever are you talking about ? :p

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Yes, and I'm hoping for the best. :fingers-crossed:

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http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p2047675.l2564&rt=nc&item=200898962016
[Nexus 4 General] akenis:
I saw a Net 10 kit at Target. Are u saying we can use that Sim and activate on ST?
[Nexus 4 General] Semantics:
I just bought one from tiger direct for 8 bucks, I will report back with my findings.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
You can't activate a ST account with a Net 10 sim card, It's supposed to be basically the same service though, but with a 1.5 GB data cap.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
They are the same pink or light blue cards. My replacement card is a dark blue tracfone card. The leaflet that came with it instructs me to activate the card on either net10sim.com or straighttalksim.com accordingly. I've bought net10 activation kits, the Sims have the same part numbers as st. Worth a shot at under $1 each..

YMMV, I also bought some Telcel Sims..
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
But I'll bet that the serial #'s are locked to their respective divisional services. But I agree that it might be worth it to try anyway.
[Nexus 4 General] crash6x86:
I'm going to try it. I bought one, it's on the way. We will see.
[Nexus 4 General] katt36157:
I bought a SIM card compatible off of ebay. I found the whole installation kit and so far it's worked fine. I am using a galaxy s3
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Mind sharing link? Was it a net10 or did you buy a straight talk att Sim?
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
Long time AT&T Straight Talk sim user here. Though I recently switched to T-Mobile's $70 dollar unlimited so I can do this..
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Att user and I can easiky stream hd YouTube or netflix:

And I live on the outskirts of gettysburg. Get no hspa+ from t mobile here or at work in the middle of a larger town. Wish I did, but tmob only has data in the very center of large cities, att's broader coverage is worth it's slower speeds.
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
No the point I was trying to make is that I can now stream music without chewing through my data and getting throttled.

My speeds with ST were always excellent.
[Nexus 4 General] magicriggs:
For what I understand any ATT MVNO. (Straight talk or Net10) its all hard capped at 1.5GB.
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
3G Watchdog said I was at 1.4Gb last time I got throttled. I had used over 100mb that day though so I'm not sure which triggered the throttle.

I enjoyed the low cost of straight talk while I was on it, but having a brand new Nexus 4 and not being able to watch any youtube videos or stream music sucked. It was better just to spend $20 dollars more a month and never have to worry about switching over to wifi ever again. T-Mobiles speeds where I'm at are awesome also. If I didn't work an 11hr a day job without wifi access, ST might have remained a good option for me.
[Nexus 4 General] hackahero:
the reason att sims are no longer availible on ST and Net10 is because ATT is pissed off with people having locked phones not having to have them unlocked before sticking in a SIM and activating it on ST. Alot of phones don't need unlocked at all to switch to ST. Just stick a sim in and it works. ATT isnt happy about that... So thats why its over...
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Oh I can definitely agree with that. One of many reasons I wish I had service :good:
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
Actually, someone on the Howard forums talked to a ST representative, and they told him that it was a data issue. Nobody has concrete evidence on what happened though, I believe that AT&T was losing more and customers to ST, so they pulled the plug.
[Nexus 4 General] californiarailroader:
If that's the case, why did they allow Straight Talk to use AT&T's network in the first place? Surely AT&T could have seen this coming, or maybe not LOL
[Nexus 4 General] Bob Coxner:
parts eriansse

There are hundreds of AT&T sims for Net10 available on eBay for 99 cents each. ST AT&T sims are also on sale there but at crazy prices.

As to why there are no more new AT&T sims for ST...no one knows the true reason (other than some senior execs). It could be that ST bought access to X number of AT&T lines and they have now reached their limit until a new contract is signed.

ST and Net10 are both subsidiaries of the same company (America Movil). Why one still has access to new AT&T sims and the other one doesn't is a mystery.
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
ive heard the net10 sims come with a hard 1.5GB data cap though, is this correct ?

also,

do you guys think straighttalk / att stopped selling these ST AT&T sims because of the proxy hack ?

also, without this proxy in place, is there a way to have your account terminated for data usage ? like say i did 4GB in 1 month ?

is it true the ST AT&T sims have a 100MB a day limit ?
[Nexus 4 General] unsivil_audio:
The ironic part is you'll never get anywhere near that cap on ST.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Please explain proxy hack ;)

Also, no straight talk throttle caps are confirmed, they're just assumptions.
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
It isn't really a hack, you're simply not entering in all of the fields of the APN seetings. It allows you to get better download speeds and perform speed tests, but doesn't allow you to use more data.
[Nexus 4 General] enigmaco:
I'm getting ready to use h20 wireless has anyone used them? They use at&t towers
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
why ?

you can do way better then that.
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
You could have switched to straight talk T-Mobile Sim and done the same for under $45/m.. No throttle..

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Only net10. Has not affected straight talk (yet).

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There is no "proxy hack". If you check the most recent APN setting on their sites, they state leave those lines blank on smart phones.
[Nexus 4 General] enigmaco:
I know but t-mobile doesn't have coverage in a area I travel to and I really don't want to pay to use two services. I miss the unlimited Internet, and speeds every day
[Nexus 4 General] Visa Declined:
There have been people using the T-Mobile straight talk sim getting angry phone calls around 5gb. I expect to use over 50gb a month, so I'll stick with tmo's real unlimited .
[Nexus 4 General] MkVsTheWorld:
The reports are very limited. But, one user at HowardForums found that they warn you @5GB but they don't ever cut you off or throttle you, I think he got up to 100 GB in one month and still has service.

I've gotten 5GB easy, but I got the robotic phone calls. I wonder if you can just ignore them lol.
[Nexus 4 General] wavrunrx:
do you stream via google-music or pandora ?

any youtube ?
[Nexus 4 General] MkVsTheWorld:
I did when I got up to 5GB.