yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[HTC Incredible S] mrkobayashi:
Thanks so much for your great step-by-step guide. I'd have been lost without it. After a few hiccups I finally got to S-Off and Blackrose today.

Looking forward to trying out some great looking ROMs.

Cheers!
[HTC Incredible S] ePYK me.:
You should be seeing a screen like this

Scribbled from my note 2 using s-pen!!
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
Can I use this if my HBOOT version is 2.00.0000 ?

Thanks
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Yes. The process should still be the same for basically anyone with HBOOT higher than 1.13. In the case that u do have HBOOT 1.13, then skip steps 7 and 8 (It will say skip these steps if you have HBOOT 1.13).
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
Great, thanks, I'll give it a shot then :good:
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
This part didn't work for me. When I ran the script it ran fine until the phone boots into Fastboot. It seems to just disconnect from my PC and so the cmd stays on "< waiting for device >"

This is what the script says:
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Checking the version-main takes a bit of time. Just be a little patient here :)
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
I left it for an hour and it still remains the same even if I choose not to create a goldcard which I have already manually done following these instructions: http://www.modaco.com/topic/305672-creating-a-goldcard/
[HTC Incredible S] ehabof:
thanks ..... BUT?

First of All, Thank u very mush for your amazing effort:good:, cuz I've been searching 4 a long time and I was almost hopeless :(

here's my problem concerning the steps:

I had a different message saying that it's out of date , I don't remember its name ! & I didn't get $ :)

the backup of system files didn't complete without saying the reason ! and I re tried many times with the same result:confused:

The same .... I had a message in every step saying that no device is connected , and so on ...

eventhough after I reached here , I tried a program that needs root access and it worked :highfive:

so I didn't continue , so If you can enlighten me , I'll be very thankful my friend :fingers-crossed:

You have my best wishes :)
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
I realized I could connect to Fastboot USB when using USB 2.0, for some off reason it didn't work with USB 3.0 ports on the motherboard.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Your first problem, that message always shows up. Just wait a bit for adb to kill the server first and restart. Also did u enable USB Debugging on your phone?

Well in all honestly, your second problem isnt much of a problem. U have already unlocked your bootloader and stuff so I would assume your phone is already empty lol. But seriously?you could not backup? as in like you could not complete the backup? Did it start or something? or ust didnt start at all.

Your last issue, did u set up ADB correctly? (HTC Sync and all that stuff installed properly and what not)

Great to see your problem resolved. :good:
[HTC Incredible S] ehabof:
This step had failed .... with the both releases of RUU ( typical & the other one ) no. of fault is 155 , and according to the assistant fike that means the RUU release doesn't suit the HTC device , and we should search for the suitable one ! So any IDEAS ???????? :(
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Error 155 (if i remember correctly) means that you have the unlocked bootloader. Just relock the bootloader by going to fastboot and then typing fastboot oem lock. If it went properly in your bootloader, it should say **relocked** where it once said **unlocked**. Now run the RUU.

Note: Im assuming the runme.bat script ran properly without fault
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
Almost there...

When I run the BlackRose_IS.exe it remains on "Waiting for device..."

Device information:

**Revolutionary**

VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.13.1002

RADIO-3831.19.00.19_M

eMMC-boot
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Patience is key my friend :D unless its been more than 10 minutes. Then theres something legitly wrong.
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
Left it running for well over 10 minutes and still nothing... :(
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
It just stays at Waiting for device??? Is there an error of some type?? Did you try unplugging the phone, then trying again??
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
Tried unplugging the phone, restarting phone and PC, reformatting the phone, even re-locking it and putting it back to S-ON, then putting back revolutionary HBOOT and S-OFF but still remains at "Waiting for device..." without error messages.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
I, to be honest, do not have the faintest clue as to what is going wrong. I did seem to find a work around for your problem, but the workaround has Blackrose 2.02.0000. I will question some other more experienced XDA members on this though so just sit tight for the time being :)

Edit: If you want to stick with Blackrose HBOOT 2.02.0000 for the time being go here, scroll a bit down when u find Zaysk's forum ID. I know it might be possible to take replace the hboot.img with the current one but I just want to question others to be on the safe side.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Alright so at this point, i have a question for you:

1. Please state your current phone specs (like what it says in the bootloader)

2. State the ROM you used when trying to run the Blackrose.exe

Edit: Also run the following command in fastboot: fastboot getvar all
[HTC Incredible S] andzy:
Hi... sorry for being such a noob... I have S-on unlocked state from HTC dev. Right now I on ViperVIVO_2.1.8 rom with HBoot 2.00.0000 with Radio -3822.10.08.28_M eMMC boot, android 4.0.4, HTS Sense 4.1 with kernel 3.0.16-g693e8e9 htc-kernel@u18000-build-144#1 PREEMPT and also will this method work on windows 7 as i had unlocked (S-on) the phone on windows xp previously... I want to get S-off as am not being able to flash image files from fastboot...so is it ok for me to start from where it says to run Nonverbose's script???
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
ROM:

PACman v20.0.1

Bootloader:

**Revolutionary**

VIVO PVT SHIP S-OFF RL

HBOOT-6.13.1002

RADIO-3805.06.03.03_M

eMMC-boot

Was running RADIO-3831.19.00.19_M before I clean wiped my phone and it still didn't want to install Blackrose.

fastboot getvar all:

C:\Android\sdk\platform-tools>fastboot getvar all

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 6.13.1002

(bootloader) version-baseband: 3805.06.03.03_M

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 1.36.405.1

(bootloader) serialno: HT15CTD02241

(bootloader) imei: 355301044995218

(bootloader) product: vivo

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-7630

(bootloader) modelid: PG3213000

(bootloader) cidnum: OPTUS002

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4011mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: off

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-8a731c6e

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 12

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!

finished. total time: 0.006s
[HTC Incredible S] ozzy190:
Hello sorry! I got to step 6 of the guide (backup). After the backup finished and restart the smartphone I always reappears screen "ClockworkMod Recovery" How do I turn on normally smartphone? thank you!
[HTC Incredible S] ozzy190:
Please help me, every time I get the screen "ClockworkMod Recovery" and I can not boot normally smartphone!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Ok 1. Dont double post (just click the edit button)

and 2. Dont make an entirely seperate thread when uve already posted here.

and 3. U say u made a backup and then the phone couldn't boot normally?? It just rebooted straight back to ClockworkMod Recovery?? It might be some sort of fault with ClockworkMod :confused: try reflashing the recovery image and then reboot and see if any change.

Ok u used PACman when u tried to run Blackrose??? Well no wonder. Thats the problem right there. Use a

ROOTED ROM.

Thats why I requested that u download CM7
[HTC Incredible S] reeper250:
So install the CM7 ROM, run the Blackrose exe then restore PACman from backup?
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
sure. Thatll work.
[HTC Incredible S] ozzy190:
Then after performing steps 1 to 6 (backup) to restart the smartphone went into the mode "ClockworkMod Recovery", and I could not continue with step 7 (my HBOOT is 2.02.0002) so I tried this menu (ClockworkMod Recovery) to install "cm-7.2.0-vivo.zip" menu then "install zip from sdcard> choose zip from sdcard> cm-7.2.0-vivo.zip" so then, at the end of the installation , reboot your smartphone to smartphone comes with the rom cm, how do I go now? how can I upgrade to the Android ics? thank you!l!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
You can always continue with the guide to achieve S-OFF so you will not have to type the code fastboot flash boot boot.img every time you flash a new ROM.

Or you can simply go to the ROM index in the Incredible S Android Development Page and find a ROM that suits your liking, download it, flash it, type the code above (fastboot flash boot boot.img), reboot, and enjoy ROM.
[HTC Incredible S] ozzy190:
So I can install a ROM without s-off? you show me a rom can install it without s-off? then I will have to first extract the boot.img from the rom file from the zip file, then "fastboot flash boot boot.img" and then install the zip right?

for example I install this rom without s-off with that process?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2094809

I tried to install okay, but when you start loading (the circle with the word "CyanogenMod") for quite a while, is this normal?

thank you!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Yes the process is entirely correct although i prefer to flash ROM first and then the boot.img (thats long gone though. I have S-OFF now). Either way will work.

And to your second question, yes the bootanimation will display for quite a bit of time (generally 5 minutes or around that). It is because Android is building its dalvik cache and what not. After that first boot, boot times will be normal.
[HTC Incredible S] southard26:
help

i do all the method im on hboot 2.0200002 so i go throgh everything i get no error messages but when the phone reboots its still on the same hboot does not go down to 2.00000 as it says it will can someone help me please
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
You completed all the steps as in EVERYTHING??? Thats really impossible.... Cuz the RUU should have downgraded HBOOT to 1.13. Revolutionary should have made the HBOOT 6.13 (or something similar) and Blackrose should have made HBOOT 2.03???
[HTC Incredible S] kaboose222:
Fail to see zip files in CWM

I have already gained S-OFF through Revolutionary, however, I still do not have root access. For some reason, when I select "Choose zip from sd card", I cannot see Superuser-3.1.3-arm-signed.zip, which I have placed in the root of my sd card. Is there anyway to fix this problem?

Thanks for your incredible guide!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
u cant see it? As in it doesnt show up?? It should not really matter anyways. Every ROM in this thread has Superuser or SuperSu in it. Do you have a custom ROM installed? If so, it should have Superuser or SuperSU.
[HTC Incredible S] RogStar:
Simply Thanks

Thanks a lot for this guide. Works like a charm :laugh:
[HTC Incredible S] super-user2.3:
i have a question if u allow me : " my phone is htcdev unlocked and when i flash a Rom that has AROMA installer such as sabsa v12 i can't get back to stock with the backup i have ( i mean it restores perfectly but still boots to recovery and i have to run RUU ) so if i s-off my phone will i get rid of this problem?

ps :i flashed cyan vivox and it ran perfectly and when i restore the backup it goes perfectly and doesn't boot to recovery
[HTC Incredible S] anucleo:
Hi. Did everything according to your guide. I obtained an unlocked HTC Incredible S - "UNLOCKED" on pink background.

Now I'm trying to flash custom ROMon my device: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2082327

For this I flashed boot.img extracted from the ZIP file:

C:\android>fastboot flash boot boot.img
< waiting for device >
sending 'boot' (3326 KB)...
OKAY [ 1.062s]
writing 'boot'...
OKAY [ 0.881s]
finished. total time: 1.943s

After that I booted into the recovery mode and selected to install from ZIP file. The installation was successful. After that I rebooted the phone.

Now I see Cyanogen animation for FORTY-FIFTY MINUTES and it does not take me anywhere else.

Can you please help me and explain, what to do with this?
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Hmm thats funny..... Maybe try it the reverse?? :confused: Like flash ROM then flash boot.img?? Cuz I had no trouble doing it that way:/
[HTC Incredible S] anucleo:
I managed to install that ROM. The only thing I had to do was to wipe everything out through Clockwork Recovery: system data, cache, Dalvik cache. After that I did exactly the same steps as before and it worked like a charm.

Your guide is the most detailed and clear from all that I seen throughout internet. The only messy part is where you explain, how to install custom ROMs. It is not clear now that one has to flash boot.img first, then flash ZIP from recovery. Also it would be great to add an additional step to wipe all the data and caches before the installation. After that your guide will become just perfect :cool:
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
In all honesty, it really should not matter which way you do it. When I was still S-ON, I flashed the ROM first and then flashed the boot image. With regards to wiping all data and cache, its not necessarily needed if you are coming from an earlier version of the same ROM. In that case, you may choose to just flash the newer version of the ROM over the older version you were using. The only time where it would be absolutely suggested to wipe everything is when you switch ROMs or when you use one version of a ROM but the next version for the same ROM has a different base.

In general people choose to just wipe everything anyways because it provides the most bugless experience.
[HTC Incredible S] anucleo:
Anyway I can only say huge thanks to you and your guide! For a noob like me it is very difficult to collect all the needed information all over the forums. And now I'm so happy to have Cyanogen 10 instead of my old Sense 3.6, which I "enjoyed" for so long. To be honest, I wonder what on Earth makes HTC and others write so slow and unstable ROMs, spend so much time and money, and not support excellent and already existing Cyanogen, which may have some rough edges, but still ages ahead. I did not even expect that my phone can have no lags at all. Now I see that not Android was the problem, but a crap written by HTC was the source of all the slowness.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Hahahaha. Its is true that HTC may write "slow" software but in truth I think the Sense is really just for the absolute top tier of HTC phones (HTC One, One X, One X+ such and such) because those are the only phones equipped with quad cores. On top of that HTC screwed up pretty bad with Sense 3.6. It was an incomplete design that had "meh" functionality and too much eye candy. Plus it had kept too much of Sense 3.5, Sense 3, and Sense 2.1. Sense 4 on the other hand contained all the great eye candy that Sense normally had and kept a good level of functionality to go with that eye candy. It was significantly more complete and devs like nik, interaser, and alirez have done an absolutely wonderful job of porting them over and adding mods. In short, Sense 3.6 is a ****ty scaled down version of Sense 4 (and above).

Overall its great that you are enjoying a rooted phone with CyanogenMod. Although the AOSP ROMs are far from perfect, devs help make a brilliant experience as it is. Good job devs :good:
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
So what is your HBOOT???
[HTC Incredible S] eallymehr:
2.02
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
mmmm.... try running the downgrade kit (the runme.bat) and if it ran without error, run the RUU to downgrade the HBOOT. Then use revolutionary to obtain S-OFF and pick up from flash recovery, flash superuser, and then skip to blackrose (if youd like). Please keep in mind, when u run revolutionary, it will come with an option if u want to flash a recovery. Just clikc yes for it to make things simpler. Then flash whatever recovery ud like.
[HTC Incredible S] hossein54:
Hi

Hi, thanks for your guide! I could successfully go through the 6th steps but i stuck at the 7th (Nonverbose's scrip). First I tried runme.cmd and answered all questions. Surprisingly I got re- locked the phone. Then I unlocked the phone by the .bin file provided by Htcdve. Second I tried to go through command window, but I got stuck at this command: chmod 777 /data/local/tmp/misc_version. Windows connot identify chmod and says NOT FOUND! Please help me!
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
The phone is supposed to get relocked because you cannot run an RUU with an unlocked bootloader. You will get an error (151 i think?). Try rerunning the script again then running the RUU.
[HTC Incredible S] hossein54:
It is right, error 151. I ran the script again and could finally run RUU without any error. Of course with my phone relocked! Now I have my phone with a new Rom and S-off. Thanks a lot!
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Significance of S-off??

I have S-on and I'm able to flash all the Rom's, just wanted to know why actually do one needs to be S-off ??

HBOOT: 2.02
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Flash radios

Flash kernels

Dont need to flash boot images

certain ROMs REQUIRE it (ARHD being one)
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Why Radios?

Thanks for the swift response.

Just wanted to know one more thing, why does one have to flash radios?

In many of the Roms I found "S-off required" written, but still they worked with S-on

Is it with S-on these Roms don't work perfectly?

P.S. Haven't flashed ARHD yet.
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
I answered your first question elsewhere (i forget which thread. U posted in like 5 :p )

Most of the time, dev-unlock and custom recovery is the only thing needed. Unfortunately, I do not know much about why one would need S-OFF for a ROM. For that, you could contact the devs here directly (as in PM) or you can ask more senior members of the forums (namely markj and tpbklake)
[HTC Incredible S] Cheetah74:
Thanks again man. Was really curious to know. :D :laugh:
[HTC Incredible S] yui-xzc:
Thanks for the Guide dude :good:
[HTC Incredible S] psg:
Hi

i have HTC incredible S i had to change digitizer (touch screen)

i repalce LCD+touch but same as here : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ7qyPfBS_M my touch screen didn't work OK (same problem as on youtube)

i made all as was in great post about S-OFF now i have android 2.3.3 Hboot revolutionary and S-OFF

i used goldcard with file PG32DIAG.nbh to enter to DIAG mode.

HTC all passed OK in DIAG but problem with touch screen exist, as i remember for wildfire S it was enough to make such DIAG.

please help me, maybe i have to reflash to some new android etc to make this touch working

lower i attached info about lcd+digi

original lcd+digi is

S/N2YFA111L100810

P/N 60H00496-P

S/N23EA112A005790

p/n 83H00385-00 ------>only this original number is different, my new touch has got 83H00356-00

number written on both original and replaced touch screen flex is same, original and replaced from complet is: XH6030H09A

during calibration for wildfire S i see TP calibration proces but during DIAG for my Incredible S i see only CLEAR TALK TIME ----- > OK but there is nothing about touch calibration.

i think maybe my PG32DIAG.nbh is not complete to make calibration for incredible S becasue it's just erasing all user data and clear talk time timers

i attached PG32DIAG.nbh which i used please compare it with your PG32DIAG.nbh file maybe my is too "short"

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[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
-_- this is a thread for discussing and aasking about the topics of S-OFF and how to do such, not for you to post your hardware related problem -_- please make another thread in the general forum (not that i know how to help you anyways lol)
[HTC Incredible S] omareziz:
i think these are the steps for installing from a zip file if i could get step by step snaps or details as i definitely dont wanna brick this phone. :P
[HTC Incredible S] Arjun0118:
same for me I have rooted out my phone but will not risk S-Offing and bricking it
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
The instructions are already very straightforward. Enough snooping around in the custom recovery will tell you where everything is. Anything else you dont know, google it cuz itll be faster and itll save me time as well.

And in all honesty, you really cant brick your phone flashing a custom ROM. In most cases its gonna come up as 1. ROM doesnt boot cuz u forgot to flash the boot.img or you had a bad download 2. You go into bootloops cuz maybe u did a dirty flash or something ( i dunno. This cud be resut of lots of things) or any number of scenarios. Android development has progressed to the point that its fairly safe to do such activities and not have a high risk of bricking.

It might as well be next to impossible to brick your phone because the process is all automated. All you have to do is sit back and answer y or n when prompted to.
[HTC Incredible S] h0pjay:
Thanks for the comprehensive guide! It's really helping out a lot.

I have a few questions though. I want to use the Android Revolution HD mod.

In order to use the mod, I have to flash 4EXT Touch Recovery. Now the requirements of 4EXT are that the phone is already rooted and S-OFF.

So if I use your guide, I presume I have to switch the order of the steps a bit? Since I don't have to do step 4. Flash a recovery with clockwork right away.

I would have to:

1. unlock the bootloader

2.then install Superuser and test the root,

3.then backup,

4.use Nonverbose's script

5. run RUU and Revolutionary to S-OFF

6. --> Only now I can use 4EXT as a recovery

7. Flash Android Revolution HD

Does this sound about right, or am I completely wrong? Thank you for your time :)
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
Step 4 is flashing the recovery (ClockworkMod IS the recovery name). You NEED to do this because you need to flash the Superuser file FROM THE RECOVERY. Therefore you need to do step 4.
[HTC Incredible S] h0pjay:
Alright, thanks for making that clear!

So there shouldn't be an issue if I just flash 4EXT recovery instead of ClockworkMod, even though the phone isn't S-OFF yet?
[HTC Incredible S] 072665995:
No recovery requires S-OFF. The only requirement is an unlocked bootloader.