yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Themes] crisgen:
#ffffffff,#ffffffff,#ffffffff,#ff000000,#ff000000,#00000000,#ff000000

Il You like this

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[Android Themes] Natakranta:
I like it. Is similar to mine. I just did a little adjustment to pressed color because on full white nav icons were invisible. Light grey with bit of transparency

#ffffffff,#c9c9c9c9,#ffffffff,#ff000000,#ff000000,#00000000,#00000000
[Android Themes] skymario:
My latest Face of LMT.:fingers-crossed:
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Looks great

Sent from my SM-G900F
[Android Themes] PsyAlik:
Plz delete

Отправлено с моего Nexus 4 через Tapatalk
[Android Themes] maxiv:
How can I change the navbar buttons in the PIE navigation, i.e. back, home, recent and menu?
[Android Themes] SaintCity86:
#ff00007d,#98005aff,#ff00cbff,#ff00cbff,#ff000000,#ff00007d,

...Because some roads you shouldn't go down. Maps used to say there be dragons here, now they don't...But that dont mean they're not here. - M
[Android Themes] HeisehKiiN:
Anyone with new themes?
[Android Themes] IronTechmonkey:
Why is an image of my theme appearing in the background of your theme image?
[Android Themes] HeisehKiiN:
because he took a screenshot of tapatalk while navigating.
[Android Themes] IronTechmonkey:
Ya, realized that after I posted. Thanks!
[Android Themes] flipguyfromthepi:
2 cents
[Android Themes] srikanth003:
Here's a simple theme based on one of LMT's logo

[YOUTUBE]p7udPYtOzpc[/YOUTUBE]

Inspired by this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56841245&postcount=9221

Hope you guys like this. Here's a list of changes made

Pie colors : #ffffffff,#e05d86b6,#ff000000,#86000000,,,#0054585a

Pie Inner radius : 65

Animation time : 100

Set Nav Button : Kitkat (still getting used to lollipop nav icons :))
[Android Themes] urphonesux:
My setup using Encircled Icons.

[IMG="LMT Launcher is awesome"]http://i57.tinypic.com/a467wn.png[/IMG]
[Android Themes] girron:
Any flashlight app in particular that can work with LMT?
[Android Themes] psychomaniac189:
Here's mine.

#ff000000,#ff5b5757,,#ffffffff,#00000000,#ff000000,

View attachment 3350739
[Android Themes] TR2N:
Hi guys,

can someone point me to the correct file name of the recents button (the third one)? I can't get it to work probably..

Kindly regards and thank you!
[Android Themes] titanreign:
I use this one. It has an activity that LMT can use.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=pl.net.szafraniec.latarka

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Try pie0.png (that's a zero)
[Android Themes] TR2N:
Fixed...
[Android Themes] jerry_k1215:
I am poor to get a color screen cellphone
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Team blackout do great dark gapps..

If you didnt have them already
[Android Themes] jerry_k1215:
Thanks for your info

Its great to know that:good:
[Android Themes] DJ_FrozenDoctor:
I really want this. XD
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Links in first post.
[Android Themes] DJ_FrozenDoctor:
Can I use it on a DROID Turbo?
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Supported devices would be on first page of main thread. Backup ..try?
[Android Themes] mpoendi:
[IMG="Here's my LMT set up."]http://picsart.com/i/180216937000202[/IMG]

My color hex

#63ff00ff,#6ed80096,#ffffffff,#00000000,#b3ff00ff,#00000000,#26c516c5
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
Still works like a champ on every Moto I've had

And can some one tell me the purpose of that laser pointer toy thing that's been added

Sent from my Moto X Pure
[Android Themes] salman45:
Share with us please .
[Android Themes] MrKaon:
Could you please share the colour code?

Thanks

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BTW this is mine at the moment :

#ff000000,#ff5b5757,,#ffffffff,#00000000,#ff000000,
[Android Themes] :
Influenced by chummy development's themes.
[Android Themes] flyinmama:
would anyone know how to install custom fonts for the clock and system info please?
[Android Themes] :
Well here is my setup
[Android Themes] Tab_Triggerhappy:
Classic and epic is good enough for me :laugh:

View attachment 5054741

Final touch...

View attachment 5054801

... for now.

Well...

To open the Music Player from Home Screen i added a customized shortcut.

View attachment 5056227
[Android Themes] seancannery88:
Looks great.
[Android Themes] 93fuelslut:
What's the code for transparent launcher
[Android Themes] mptynugget:
works on older versions of android?
[Android Themes] shaggyskunk:
Yes LMT should work on Android versions possibly back to Android v4.0 I THINK? - But it MAY depend on the version of LMT you have?
[Android Themes] 93fuelslut:
Why does your whole screen change color when you activate lmt
[Android Themes] shaggyskunk:
What do you mean by "whole screen change color"?

Mine doesn't & never has on any device or android version I've had.

Currently Galaxy S20 Ultra Snapdragon variant running One UI V3.1.

See the screen shot.

View attachment 5434999

What device & Android version is running on your phone?
[Android Themes] 93fuelslut:
How do you get that fan color to be 80% transparent black? The color template isn't working correctly. Because I have 2 pixel 2xl's and it's not working right
[Android Themes] 93fuelslut:
How did you get the gradient effect?
[Android Themes] MrKaon:
Seriously are you asking me after 6 years? Is LMT still around?
[Android Themes] 93fuelslut:
Yeah it's running on my 6pro
[Android Themes] pik1:
Nope, AOKP, I just extracted the softkeys from the zenyth zip put them in the lmt folder and renamed them.
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
I was already using the zenyth keys on aokp with the Nav bar. I've read the op, but I can't find the lmt folder in order to include them on my pie. If you could give me a more detailed explanation than the op I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you guys.

Edit. I read on page 214 of lmt thread that you have to create the lmt folder. Could someone possibly explain how to create that folder. I've tried a couple different ways when I'm in root explorer with no success. I'm sure this is pretty basic but I'm having a hard time with it. I would greatly appreciate any help. Thx

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[Android Themes] PapaWangsta:
Hey, you can pretty much use any app to

1. create the holder, then drop those images......

2. Done. :D
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
When I create my folder it won't let me do it exactly like yours. I create my folder in data like this.( Com.android.lmt) yours looks like com.android.lmt/files. How can I get mine to match yours. Appreciate your help.

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[Android Themes] knapz:
Ok. You are halfway there. Now go into your created Com.android.lmt folder and create another folder called: files

And there sir is where you place your correctly named icons
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
Awesome. Thank you. Finally got it. Would you happen to no how to get the clock to come back. Since I did this I lost the clock. Lol. Always something you no.

Edit. Got my clock back. Thx for all the help guys.

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[Android Themes] Dinc79:
Loving this app!!
[Android Themes] knapz:
check

LMT settings Show Status Infos has a 1 and android settings Accessibility LMT is ON
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Android Themes] Dinc79:
Still messing with colors. I got two of the png to work for apps but the other 3 won't. Any ideas
[Android Themes] Dinc79:
I got it. Had to change png numbers to all even numbers
[Android Themes] Jeshter2000:
Edit: Got it working Hurray !
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Can't wait to see:D:D:D

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] fredmode01:
'been using this app for so long now.. I guess it rightfully deserved its own thread.. :good: (thanks to be added to OP for the idea)

Here's my stuff at the moment, custom icons obviously, from bottom to top: menu, back, home, recent apps
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
I think I finally got a winner.

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[Android Themes] Syk69:
How do you change to custom colors? I put the custom values that some posted here in the pie colors option but it doesn't change to those custom colors. I tried putting in quotes and doesn't work either. Is there another option I have to change as well?
[Android Themes] jackattack:
Make sure you don't have spaces after the commas.
[Android Themes] kamau79:
Simple pie, still learning
[Android Themes] Syk69:
Thanks buddy! That was it! I knew it was something simple I over looked.
[Android Themes] Jeshter2000:
Could you share those drawn icons ....
[Android Themes] bbrannack:
I found those and a bunch more soft keys in the galaxy nexus themes and app thread on xda. I'm on my phone and I'm not real good at setting links up to the exact thread. Sorry about that. I hope this helps a little. I just typed soft keys in the search box, and scanned through the threads.

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[Android Themes] PapaWangsta:
Here ya go!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1413582
[Android Themes] _Sofos_:
Απ: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

#8F000000,#374047,#BE235A,#BE235A,#00BFFF,#00426A

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[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Very nice:D

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] r.albu:
View attachment 1706599

#00000000,#B2FFFFFF,#FF33B5E5,#FF33B5E5,#FFFFFFFF,#FFFFFFFF,

Need a blue shutdown button: anyone?

Thanks!

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
http://db.tt/AxKfI2hF

;)

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] ldiomedi:
Here's my pie.

#5700005a,#78ff0000,#ffffffff,#8100ff00,#ffffff00,#ffffffff,

The thanks button doesn't bite. Try it!
[Android Themes] _Sofos_:
Απ: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Check this one, it should change according to your RGB colour.

http://db.tt/ovKtHzGK

Στάλθηκε από το GT-I9100 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk 2
[Android Themes] misterblonde:
R: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Please can you tell me how do you configure the shutdown button?

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Android Themes] r.albu:
Hi

Choose "key" and write "26“ and you're done. And there's more on the app thread.

Cheers
[Android Themes] SIGMAxB:
#00000000,#ffe3ebff,#ffe3ebff,#ffc1c1ff,#ffcdd0ff,#ffddd7ff,#219ed0ff,

Running 1.9 test apk with dim control

Slim SON
[Android Themes] misterblonde:
R: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Thanks for The reply but i need help

I created The folder /Files in The com. Android. Lmt and inserted the 0.png image for The custom icon shutdown that i have in item1 but after restart the lmt service nothing changed... Where am i wrong? I attach the photo... Please can you post me your image?

Thank you for The reply :)

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] HiiiPower:
Hi there guys your themes are awesome, I was wondering if there was any tuts on theming pie, because I don't know the first place to start, like I want something like the "6" selection with blue Borders
[Android Themes] ldiomedi:
Still need the blue shutdown button? I've this.

The thanks button doesn't bite. Try it!
[Android Themes] SIGMAxB:
#0cffffff,#ba740000,#d4ffffff,#d4ff0000,#d4ff0000, #ff820000,#090000ff, mmmmmmmm pie

Rose red to offset the green

Slim SON
[Android Themes] speedracer1979:
What for cm 10 theme are you using like the orange:thumbup:
[Android Themes] misterblonde:
R: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

It's a question?

Anyway i use The Aventador theme that you can find in this section ;)

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] kamau79:
View attachment 1712306
[Android Themes] r.albu:
Thanks. Yes need that but with the jelly bean blue, I guess, the blue of the other icons standard to lmt pie.

Thanks anyway

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] SIGMAxB:
Can't post pics

Slim SON
[Android Themes] _Sofos_:
Απ: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Awesome app once again!

#8F000000,#374047,#B06C01,#B06C01 ,#00BFFF,#01A8CB

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[Android Themes] misterblonde:
R: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Can you tell me how do you configure the shutdown button? I'm trying for two days :/

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus con Tapatalk 2
[Android Themes] _Sofos_:
Απ: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

Try renaming it to pie0.png, restart LMT.

I've posted my shutdown icon 2 pages back in case you need a reflected one.

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[Android Themes] misterblonde:
R: Lmt launcher for android !show your pie theme

I solved my problem, i insert the pie0.png in the data/data/com.android.lmt because i didn't have it in sd/android/data

Now i created the folder and changed the icon... Thanks guys

Inviato dal mio Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] jimmotoxxx:
#ff131313, #ffff00ce, #ffffffff,#ff8cb848,#5533b5e5,#ff131313
[Android Themes] SIGMAxB:
Custom

Slim SON
[Android Themes] SIGMAxB:
http://www.iconarchive.com/tag/hd

This is what i got the icons enjoy

Slim SON
[Android Themes] whtsoxfan1:
Black and white
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Very nice ...;)

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
Not bad for a 3rd attempt

#00000000,#85000000,#dc00ff00,#d300ffff,#dc00ff00,#dc00ffff,#43000000,

And finished icons and 2 color changes later... perfect.... This is only the best app ever on my Razr Maxx HD but the animated parts really are not as fluid as my OG Razr :D

#63000000,#85000000,#dc00ff00,#da00e0ff,#ff00daff,#dc00ffff,#43000000,
[Android Themes] knuckles1978:
Screen maker trial doesn't do nexus 7, so I'm afraid a G note will have to do :)

#cc003b9e, #882acdff, #ff2acdff, #ffffffff, #ffffffff, #ff2acdff, #cc000000
[Android Themes] Youngunn2008:
Here's mine

#ee282828,#ee0099cc,#ffffffff,#ffffffff,#ffffffff,#ff33b5e5

Sent from my MotoAHD Maxx

---------- Post added at 11:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:34 AM ----------

Lmt was originally a windows mobile app

Sent from my MotoAHD Maxx
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
And another just for kicks :) I might have to rob a bank for this noname guy lol ;)

#9fffffff,#2400c8ff,#ff0000ff,#caff0000,#f0ffffff,#bd0000ff,#43000000,
[Android Themes] Youngunn2008:
Changed icons to zte grand style.

Sent from my MotoAHD Maxx
[Android Themes] Jeshter2000:
Where did you get those ??
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
We should make icon zips available on op?yes no?

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
LoL That's funny cause that's kinda how I was setting it up in the file structure ;)
[Android Themes] Youngunn2008:
From the navbar thread for nexus galaxy.
[Android Themes] matrix0886:
Color codes used:

#dd2f4f4f, #8087cefa, #33b5e5, #33b5e5, #33b5e5, #33b5e5
[Android Themes] cowsquad:
Here is mine
[Android Themes] life:
here is my setup,

colors

#1bffffff,#80696969,#ffffffff,#8000008b,#ffffffff,#8000008b,#c8000000

don't ask where i got the app icons as i don't remember its been awhile, and i think they aren't free anyway (its a whole set of icons not just the ones shown)

softkey icons links are throughout this thread.
[Android Themes] benkya:
How can i make the secound level pie visible? Thanks

Sent from my GT-I9000 Galaxy S

Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] life:
within options/pie scroll down to layer 2 and assign things to those pie's ...

edit:

excuse me, i meant level 2 level 2 will be on the outside level 1 is on the inside, where my home,back,search and so on is level one, the apps are on level 2
[Android Themes] benkya:
Got it, thank you for fast response... i think it must be activated somewhere before assign thing :)

Sent from my GT-I9000 Galaxy S

Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] life:
nope just assign something for it, if you haven't assigned any, and going off of default, you will have to assign all like your starting from scratch.
[Android Themes] hackergnome:
I tried something

#76000000,#963c3abe,#ffffffff,#ce5200c1,#ffc04445,#ffffffff
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
Well being laid off and board to death I just keep trying things :D the select is white just to lazy to time the shot right. :p

#85000000,#ceffffff,#ff00ffff,#c700bfff,#ffffffff,#ff0093ff,#80000000,

And yes I know the times don't match :what:

Sent from one of my Superior Android Devices
[Android Themes] benkya:
One more question..

How can i get screen shot when my fingger is holding lmt launcher?

Sent from my GT-I9000 Galaxy S

Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
Some screen shot apps have a timer like screenshot ex

Sent from one of my Superior Android Devices
[Android Themes] knuckles1978:
Use your other hand? That's what I did, with a nexus 7 too lol...
[Android Themes] Youngunn2008:
That's nice... colors?
[Android Themes] ldiomedi:
Very nice setup. Could share the navbar icons? Thanks

Enviado desde mi MB526 usando Tapatalk 2
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
I got them from theultimateicon app off the play store..... I don't really want to post them because they was paid icons and I would hate to steal from anyone ;)

Sent from one of my Superior Android Devices
[Android Themes] cowsquad:
Ill share my colors once I get home from work
[Android Themes] benkya:
At last finally get it.. :)

My pie

View attachment 1730784

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Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
Icons for pie

Guys I tried everything to change the icons but no luck

Created the folder sdcard/Android/data/com.android.lmt/files

Even tried sdcard0/android and extsdcard/android also named the file pie12.png,pie14.png,pie16.png to change 2nd 3rd and 4th item second row short press,what am I missing?
[Android Themes] life:
can you post a screenshot?

are you using both levels of pie? (not long press)

even numbers for short press odd numbers for long press, starting with 0

first slot is pie0.png and so on.

are you sure there isn't two png's in file name, ( ex: pie0.png.png)

screenshot of pie and of folder if you could and as much detail as possible.

did you try restarting the app after making and naming the png's?
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
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View attachment 1731084
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
Thanks for the reply,much appreciated.

Also when searching i found someone solved the same issue by putting png in data/data/com.android.lmt/files,i tried it but no luck.
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
View attachment 1731101
[Android Themes] life:
have you tried the image scaling?

sorry, if they are i have no idea why it isn't working, if you have more than one sdcard in your files try put it in all of them (just copy and paste the com.android.lmt folder)

like my gs3 has like 6 different areas that say sdcard, so i had to put it in all of them to find the right one that worked.

im not sure why it isn't working, maybe to big of png's which i doubt but you never know.

send me the pics you are trying to use, and let me see if i can get them working.
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
Give it a shot please

View attachment 1731117
[Android Themes] hellDr0id:
App link please...
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
give it a shot

View attachment 1731126
[Android Themes] hellDr0id:
Font name please ...
[Android Themes] life:
Worked fine for me, simple named if pie16.png in my phones sd card, as my actual sd card isn't where it gets pics from for me. Again on Samsung galaxy s3

i would load the pic up into a image editor and make background transparent.

wow that is really blurry, glad it don't look like that on my phone.
[Android Themes] hellDr0id:
Pie level 2 icons detail and how can I set plss tell.....

Thanks
[Android Themes] life:
i icons i got a long time ago and paid for them, so i will not give them out, but to change them is easy, refer to OP of the LMT app the instructions are under the FAQ section

tha ultimate icon << a lot of good icons in this app.
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
Thank you very much for trying to help man, I'll just keep playing around till I find a fix
[Android Themes] hellDr0id:
Thanks.m
[Android Themes] benkya:
Are you reset app lmt launcher?

Try to set this or something like icon user

View attachment 1731178

For me it work

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Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
I tried the image scaling but what do you mean by reset app?

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All i wanted was to set pie to control my music

So i chose pie level 2 item 2 short press > advanced commands >Key > 88 --------------> previous song

Headed to sdcard/android/data/com.android.lmt/files and added pie12.png

Also did the same under sdcard0/android and extsdcard/androd and data/data/com.android.lmt

user image scaling set to 150

Show app images set to 2

Stopped and restarted touchservice
[Android Themes] life:
after you make the folder with the images, in order for it to take effect, you have to stop the service and start it again, so after making the folder and images, go to color chooser and when it pops up just hit ok, and change nothing (unless you want to change colors of course) you should see a push notification saying service is started. meaning it has started over. then your images should be there.
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
I have been doing that,I thought by he meant something else by resetting.

I just tried a different .png with no luck,I'm using a Note ll so sometime the sd card folders are messed up as you mentioned before

---------- Post added at 09:03 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:59 AM ----------

Is it the same process if I just want to write the name with out an actual icon ie SKIP or Play/Pause ?
[Android Themes] life:
what do you mean, instead of icon it just says "play"?

you would still need an icon, according to the dev of the app.

which you could use simple text to create the icon of the word "play" or "Skip" but yes it would be same process of having to rename and put in folder.

new setup:

colors:

#1bffffff, #80696969, #ffffffff, #ff00008d, #ffffffff, #ff00008d, #e1000000

the dim is actually darker than what's shown.
[Android Themes] benkya:
sorry iam mean this....

Dont know what happen, no clue... sorry maybe this related... are you rooted?

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Rom : CM 10.1 JB 4.2.1
[Android Themes] ahm.elghazaly:
Yes I'm rooted
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
OK sorry if its been answerd as I skimmed thru these new posts but if your still having issues getting your icons on the pie try placing the folder on your other SD card.... If on the internal card move to external........ and to restart the app after setting icons first option on the first menu of LMT hope this helps :)

Sent from one of my Superior Android Devices
[Android Themes] life:
he/she has tried all sdcards, and the first options will only stop the service it won't start it again after clicking that to stop it. thats why i suggested the pick color, and choose nothing to restart service.
[Android Themes] digital_cha0s:
Ohh... sorry then :) I had that stop but not restart issue before I just stopped it with option one then started it by resetting the input device

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[Android Themes] dbh369:
LOL, I didn't read the OP on LMT very well. Spent a weekend learning to decomplile and rebuild with my own icons. D-oh! Still, thought I would share:
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Always read op;)

Saves so much time lol:D

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[Android Themes] inchoate:
Here's my version, to match the hue holo-blue theme. The app is my browser, but i prefer the non-icon version.

View attachment 1732828
[Android Themes] hellDr0id:
Can you please PM me your Pie custom icons .png plsss

Thanks..
[Android Themes] Lim Wee Huat:
Anyone have a Nexus themed pie (4 colors) to share?
[Android Themes] r.albu:
Mine right now (press, long press, with swapps)

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
[Android Themes] Christiancs1969:
Nice I've seen a theme that matches that. I'll link it https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ramazor.theme.freedea

Free version and paid;)

s2 rootbox
[Android Themes] life:
No can do, gotta pay for those from thaicon.Com