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[Windows Phone 8 General] jerrya:
Maybe I am among the lucky ones, because I am using the same app as you, and it doesn't lag for me.

In fact, I have yet to find an app that lags.

Sorry your having a rough go of it, I would try a different phone to see if it's really the OS or the phone hardware.

Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
I'm done. Two things are happening, either you've never used the real tapatalk app(which this crappy app is based off of) or you just blindly support mediocrity.

Board express has froze up several times when typing a response, lags like crazy when still loading.
[Windows Phone 8 General] jerrya:
Ouch! I don't support mediocrity, and I have not used the real Tapatalk. If I could take a video of my using board express for both XDA and WPCentral, you would see it loads screen quickly, slides from left to right without delays, and loads pages up pretty quickly.

Like I said, guess I am one of the lucky ones. Hope you find a phone your happy with, or at least an app. Why not do like I am going to do. Since I can't find an app that I loved from Android, I am going to learn how to write code for WP8 so I can make my own version of the app. Figure if I can write code for it, anyone can, since I am way freaking old (like COBOL old).

Good luck man, and I am sorry your having a rough go with WP8.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Poecifer:
It was a windows mobile forum til it was desecrated by android fanboys.

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Didn't you gripe about the HD7, then have a titan very briefly, and now supposedly buy a Lumia 900 just to gripe about wp7. I'm thinking that changing your signature doesn't change the phone in your hands.
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
Can you read it clearly?
[Windows Phone 8 General] sylau90:
Well played Vetvito,just lol at these WP fans, they just support a thing vaguely. They didn't even know that we have used Microsoft mobile OS since HTC haven't bought Dopod.

Btw, Vetvito,why don't you just get the nexus 4?I have jumped to HTC one X once HTC mozart failed.
[Windows Phone 8 General] vetvito:
I'm just searching for a good deal on a Nexus. Im patient though, so I may grab a Galaxy Nexus before I can find a good deal on a Nexus 4.

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[Windows Phone 8 General] lbp775:
This! I joined this forum when I got my Windows mobile phone. Android wasn't even created yet.

**Edit** Weird, it's telling me my join date is '08. I had a tmobile Dash back in '06, I wasn't an active member till some time later.

Vetvito, sorry you're having such a tough time with Windows phone. My experience is totally opposite from yours. My whole family has moved towards this platform because of this.
[Windows Phone 8 General] geddeeee:
Android... the fat cousin at the wedding...

Horrible OS. It's a phone, FFS!!! Look at all the customization options we have... Is that to hide the fact it doesn't work properly???
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
How does Android not work properly? And out of interest which Android phones have you owned my friend?
[Windows Phone 8 General] ruscik:
I have at the moment OneX, 8x, HD7 and HD2. In the past I had phones with windows mobile before android was an idea. Phones like xda, xda 2s, o2 orbit, mda, mda compact, o2 orbit 2, htc diamond, diamond 2.

My first Android experience was on HD2, then I got Motorola defy and htc HD now OneX. Every time I go back to MS OS. In fact I hate apple but would buy iPhone over Android after OneX fiasco. One huge gripe I have with Android that has not change since day one and will not change. They do not work properly out of the box. You have to root it and remove loads of crappy apps to make the damn thing stable-ish and somewhat responsive.

FFS look at spec of OneX and yet I had lag, few seconds of freezes on apps, os and launcher, random crashes, reboots and odd ball issues. Till rooted it was completely unreliable in my view. HD7 with it's miserable spec in comparison to oneX is running smoothly, stable and no lags.

In regards of apps, get an iPhone if you use app like tapatalk for browsing forums. FFS you got a Smart phone and you use apps. Open the browser, go to forum and enjoy full functionality. No lags, no freezes no issues. If you want to install/buy app for everything get an iPhone.

Do not see people installing tapatalk style apps on their PC's so why on phones?
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
Your post was humorous, if you want to talk about the Android experience, you should first understand it. HTC's use HTC Sense interface, which is much heavier than the Stock android interface. Of all the OEM UI's its one of the laggiest. Its unfair to talk on all android devices, based on your experience with a HTC. Blame HTC for putting on all those 'crappy apps'.
[Windows Phone 8 General] geddeeee:
Erm... All of 'em!!!

I develop for Android, not by choice... it's my job!!! Also iOS, WP etc...

It's laggy and bloated. You can throw all the hardware you like at Android, but there are still lags. It's down to the kernel and security systems on Android. It's great for keeping viruses to a minimum, but it saps CPU and OS speed.

It's just my personal opinion anyway. If Android works for you then, great....
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
Lag on android is actually due to true multi-tasking and it being modular (everything is an app), it actually keeps apps running in the background, whereas iOS closes apps when you switch. The Jelly Bean update gave the OS alot more fluidity, reduced lag and bugs. It would be like judging windows vista, when windows 7 is available.
[Windows Phone 8 General] g2tegg:
Lol what!?? The S4 Pro smokes the Tegra 3's ass all over the place. I can't stand LG's phones, and the Optimus G has serious software issues but definitely not hardware (camera is terrible too).

I've been around these forums for years and I somehow stumbled across this thread. Little did I know WP fanboys where as idiodic as Apple fanboys. You two groups are clearly two peas in a pot.

Android isn't perfect. We all know that. Neither is WP. This thread made that very obvious. Whether users are riddled with hardware issues or not, I'm glad I never bought the 920 when I was considering it. Before Android I was a long time iOS user. Apple was so ahead of Android it wasn't even funny. Basic web browsing was a clear winner for iOS every time.

But after Steve died, it seems as if all there innovations died as well. Android has pulled ahead in all categories.

I'm not going to bash WP. Any new smartphone, to me, is a welcome addition. Unfortunately I need to have an ecosystem. Its not all about the fastest specs or the clearest screen. To me its about the complete ecosystem that no other company is able to provide other then Google. Nothing can come close. Google Maps, Currents, Drive, Talk, Gmail, Chrome (bookmarks), Now, etc etc.

And to all the Android haters out there. I've never experienced lag on my phone. Its packing nothing but the best hardware, plus battery life that puts most phones to shame. Samsung clearly put a lot of thought into their devices, and some very innovative features.

Android still has room for much more improvements. I'll be the first to admit it. But the other OS's in the market have much more to worry about. They need a reason to convince users to switch. Fancy live tiles or Xbox integration is not going to convince anyone. Granted it looks good, with great browser performance, I don't see any advantages.
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
Here we go again.

Android can be used, but only if you use the highest end phones. For most of its market-share, these phones that actually work will not be accessible. Windows Phone works like a charm on devices android won't even boot properly (lumia 610 for example)
[Windows Phone 8 General] ruscik:
Ok then have to agree with that. However if anything you need to be happy HTC is doing that. At the end Google is releasing unfinished OS with missing real UI under excuse you can customize it.

Why they can not release their own UI that is fluid and does not take up resources, my opinion is because it is impossible. Any serious UI for Android will be big and resource hungry there is just so much missing in stock Android.

BTW I also tried Nova launcher and Samsung UI still as much lag as any other just different feel.
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
You dont know what youre talking about, do you know how smooth Nova launcher is? Also touchwiz UI and Sony UI are "fluid" I dont get windows boy's hard on over live tiles :s, they're squares, that update themselves with notifications?

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I'm on a mid range phone having a great experience. I also know there are people on the low end Samsung Galaxy Ace having a good user experience. Some phones released on Android at the low end suck very bad but they are much cheaper than entry-level windows phones.
[Windows Phone 8 General] jerrya:
Ok, I've only had one android phone, and.one windows mobile phone. I'm now on the 8X. I have to say the first couple of weeks with my Thunderbolt it ran smooth and quickly. But then it started to lag, and eventually rebooted up to 5 times a day. I rooted and tried several custom roms. Each improved one aspect, but worsened another. I started to miss my old Imagio. Now, I can't say enough about this 8X. It has literally blew everything I liked about android out of the water. For me, the lack of ecosystem, its missing apps, jrs missing functions are surpassed by its ease if use, performance, speed, and overall user friendlyness. Call me a fan boy, that's cool, because maybe I am.

My name is Jerry, and this is my Windows phone.

Sent from my wicked sexy HTC 8X windows phone using Board Express
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
The closing line of your post was just wow lol. Fair enough but please judge android by its latest firmware, it wouldnt be fair for me to talk about windows phone based on mango. The thunderbolt was only updated up to ice cream sandwich, and its specs would struggle on ICS, its a pretty old phone too, hardly comparable to HTC's latest and greatest windows phone. Android has come a long way
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

You shouldn't be surprised, since it's android, it can steal everything just like it did from apple.
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
He posted from his android...lol. But this post is unfair, Google did not steal from Apple for one, and for two, its HTC who 'innovated' this, wont be on any other brand of Android anytime soon i'm sure
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

Really? Then check this android prototype that was appeared before iphone's announcement.

EDIT: Oh! It doesn't look like an iphonoid! It looks like a calculator!

http://www.embeddedflash.com/wp-content/ti_android_prototype.jpeg

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[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
So what? Companies compete with eachother, well done for stumbling on to that. I take it that your point is that Android wasnt going to go with a touch screen device? Well a prototype is a prototype, what was released was this http://mail2web.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/t-mobile-g1-android-phone.jpg nothing like an iPhone. Also HTC are behind the design! And if you're so pro iPhone why on earth are you posting in a Windows Phone thread, from an Android device lol, you really are a lost soul buddy.
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

This was after iphone.. Sorry I dont have time to talk to fanboys. I must study. See you when Google steals new things.

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[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
But even after the iPhone, it still looked nothing like an iPhone. Sorry i'm too much of a fanboy to realise that every touch screen device just copied Apple. Please close your XDA account.
[Windows Phone 8 General] g2tegg:
Apple paved the way for touchscreens phone. That's the only innovative thing they have done since 2007.

Android may have used that "concept", but then again Apple never came up with the idea of a all touchscreen device. Samsung had one years before Apple.

Every large company copies one another in one shape or form. Microsoft is a clear example of this. Who invented the drag and click mouse? Apple did!

Difference is, Apple abuses their size, and decides they can sue anyone who gets in their way. Fact of the matter is, Samsung is scaring the sh** out of them. Apple stocks are dropping faster then ever was imagined. Their only option at this point is to try and sue the ones beating them out of the marketplace.
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
Lets not turn this into a thread of who stole what from who. Anybody sensible knows that every company learns from eachother. Because humans learn from one another and we bounce ideas off of one another, its not really stealing (in most cases) however, if this ignorant Apple sheep wants me to list things his beloved company has stolen, i'm so ready.
[Windows Phone 8 General] Viper89:
I agree, I feel like Android has 3 levels Low, Mid range, and High end. Depending on what kind of phone you buy that is going to be the experience you get out of Android. I have had my LG Spectrum 2 for about a week with no lags, freezes or reboots so far. Coming from the Sony X1i this is such a huge upgrade. Also I haven't rooted my phone and probably won't because all I wanted to do is change the UI from the LG one and I did with Go Launcher EX+ Go Lock. Everything works smoothly and the funny thing is that I hate LG but took a chance with this phone based on reviews and video reviews and I am very happy I did :).
[Windows Phone 8 General] g2tegg:
I disagree. My wife had a HTC desire. It had a small 3.5" screen, 512 Mb of ram and a horrendous 600Mhz cortex A-5. But guess what? That little phone lasted for days off a single charge, and my wife never complained about it running slow or lag. Our daughter smashed the screen so I decided to get something more "durable"

She now uses a Motorola HD (1gb of ram and 1.5Ghz scorpion dual core). Build quality is unreal. Yet she says there is pretty much no difference is speed. Battery life is cut in half now.

Old Android phones cannot be compared to new ones. Whether they are super phones or not. They have come a long long way. Still room for improvement, but definitely the leader in the smartphone pack.
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

Must all these fanboys be idiot? I don't really have any apple thing and I'm sending this on my second android phone (and my next phone may be nexus 4) so he calls me apple sheep. Truth hurts. Who had found high res display phones and multitouch (and capacitive touchscreen) first?

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[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
Apple were first to put it in a phone yes, but they didnt invent it. Your argument is stupid it's like me saying Apple stole the idea to put cameras in Smatphones from Google
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

Sorry for argument. Have fun with your phone. Everyone has their own choices.

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[Windows Phone 8 General] g2tegg:
Very very very well put! Couldn't have said it better myself. You hit every point dead on. Especially with the integration of movable windows for Android. Closest I've got to this was multi window for the Note 2.

One thing I had to note (no pun intended). Without Android, all iPhones would still be running 256mb of ram and a single core processor. Apple says specs mean nothing yet I think they are figuring it out that its is very important for the end user experience.

I also never new WP8 users didnt have a full Office suite. I kinda figured that would be standard, like a dialer or a music player. Very disappointed to hear that.
[Windows Phone 8 General] chinarabbit:
ya, right? The window for google to take the market here is closing very fast.. i'm willing to bet every single person at google sleeps right through it

how are you not going to have windows ina 1920x1080 screen resolution anyway.. its like, in their minds, the extra resolution is simply to make all the icons look more silky & glassy, until eventually, when mobile phones reach HD2 resolution, the icons will look almost like they are painted on with jell-o

the icons & user experience is practically identical on a wvga or a full HD display.. as if resolutions only function was make things look smoother... they are brain dead.

ya, but apple has 2 speeds, off or warp 9.. and if & when they decide to wake up and smell the hot cocoa, they will take the market by storm with an integrated system of hardware components that work seamlessly from phone to tablet, to monitor to TV, with full mouse & keyboard support, and the ability to install & run programs made for OSX

i think, rather than relying on software giants, Google should turn to companies like GIMP instead of Adobe, and Open Office, rather than MSOffice, and other Open-Source Programs & Programmers, to create windowed programs which run on Android, and function like a normal desktop and are optimized for Mouse & keyboard, as well as for Icons/touch.. each program should have two versions & be switchable.to windowed or metro/icon style

one would think it would at the very least, be equal to or somewhat better than office mobile 2007, from 6 years ago...

but no, definitely not.. its at least 100 times worse, with at least 100 times less functionality, and about a million times worse than the office suites for Android & iPhone
[Windows Phone 8 General] farukdgn:
Ynt: ?Android OS with a tile based home screen, WTF?

I bet you wrote this on windows. shut up and don't use if you hate it, and let us use what we want. btw windows phone doesn't need 3gb ram and quad core cpus to work smoothly like ram eater android (although android still can't be smooth). so go away and troll in your android section.
[Windows Phone 8 General] chinarabbit:
yes, written in Windows because Microsoft patents every single thing under the sun, prohibiting other companies from making better OS's, and then sits around with their fingers in, umm, apparently YOUR rectum

THIS thread, were you not so stimulated you cant think straight, is entitled "Android", and is about an ANDROID phone.

If you really actually, can possibly think Microsoft is anything but an evil, corrupt, monopolizing, selfish, greedy, lazy, uncooperative, uncaring, bunch of braindead clowns, then, truly, you and I have literally nothing in common.

and I honestly dont see how anyone who thinks Microsoft Office in Windows Phone 8 is anything other than a useless, evil piece of agenda-ridden crap could have anything intelligent at all to say about anything, anywhere, period.

now ease back onto that msfinger, there... fanboy
[Windows Phone 8 General] g2tegg:
Thanks for confirming my previous speculation. You fanboys are just as awesomely retarded as iPhone fanboys.

Difference is, people like us who use Android KNOWS its not perfect, and have no problem pointing out its flaws. Best thing is knowing how amazing the dev support is, whether or not the manufacturer sucks or not. Its truly amazing the available options we have. And no I'm not talking about "widgets". Look up the forums and actually take notice of all the amazing things these phones are capable of.

One other thing to point out. You obviously have never tried a higher end Android device. Bash it all you want, but its not our fault you cant afford a good device to make your judgement. My phone has never stuttered or glitched, randomly rebooted, and it even had a full office suite. Wireless cloud printing. The list can go on and on.
[Windows Phone 8 General] jerrya:
cant we all just get along :)

Wow, so much bashing! Here a fan boy, there a fan boy.

As soon as someone makes a flawless, perfect OS, you will have to pry it from Gods hands.

Heres my additional thoughts. Yes, I currently run an 8X. Yes, I currently am in love with the phone. Is it perfect? Yes, for what I am using it for, it does exactly what I need. Is it the best phone I have ever had? Yes, because again, it is doing what I want exactly how I want it and exactly when I need it to.

Is it a perfect phone? No, there are some issues.

My previous phone was a Thunderbolt. When I had it I thought it was perfect, but it turned out to need alot of jury rigging, coaxing, and a whole bunch of stuff including rooting to make it almost do what I need it to when I need it to and how I needed it to. Does that mean I hate it, no, just that it wasn't exactly what I needed.

Now, my wife has an iPhone. Do I hate it. Yes. Why? Because I never liked the static icon look. Thats why I liked Android with its widgets and whatnot. Made the screen a little more alive. Am I an Apple hater? Yes, but not because of thier products, but thier business style and the constant legal battles they have with everyone.

Am I a Microsoft fan boy? No, because they too have legal and business issues. But, I do like them a lot more than Apple, and I prefer thier products more than Apple. Yes, I have an Xbox, yes we run windows at home.

you can find a million issues with my phone, or my operating system choices, or my products. But those are a million issues that affect you, not me. Like I said, the phone is doing exactly what I want. Even the Portico update didn't change a thing for me, just killed 2 hours of my time while it loaded and rebooted.

So while we can all scream at each other like two warring factions, for most of us, its just mindeless bable because what we have, we like. And what you have, you like. Doesn't make one of us right and the other wrong. After all, we are all different and have different tastes and different styles. Just because you don't like the way a system or orginization works doens't make you right. Just makes you a person with an opinion.

And I am done rambling. Have a good day everyone, and just relax.

My name is Jerry and this is my Windows phone.
[Windows Phone 8 General] SonicFlare:
That kind a makes me sad.
[Windows Phone 8 General] chinarabbit:
well, it still doesnt explain why we need to buy an iPhone or an Android just to use a proper version of MICROSOFT office

whether it bothers you or not.. it just plain creepy..
[Windows Phone 8 General] mcosmin222:
Did you make your doctor degree paper on a phone with android/iphone and we don't know? Stop being absurd, you won't make any serious use of office on a phone, other than one note.
[Windows Phone 8 General] chinarabbit:
thats THE most retarded thing I have ever heard in my entire life..

Smartphone boy

i get that you smatphone boys really believe that crap, i do

You were probably singing & dancing with your smartphone when all the real men were using PDAs

There is no difference between a 1920x1080 5 or 6" screen with external keyboard, and that Fabulet you carry around in your phabulous tabuloid back pack that you play Dance Fever on

the only difference between us is that I'm productive on a hand-held-sized device or my desktop, literally wherever I go and whatever I'm doing... I could be productive on a wrist watch. and you on the other hand, whether you have a phone, a tablet, a laptop, a desktop, or a mainframe server, you dont really do anything more useful than play Dance Fever anyway, and dont even deny that because we all know better

I'm sorry you cant figure out a way to be actually productive, i really am... but try and at least keep your retarded deficiencies to yourself
[Windows Phone 8 General] MadManMark:
Chill bro