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[Xperia Z General] Imdking:
Carphonewarehouse, expansys....... Whoever will start shipping first.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Get it from handtec then as they start shipping on the 28th
[Xperia Z General] CinqUK:
Does this mean vodafone Zs will be customised straight away or will they be plain sony firmware initially?

I'm in two minds between waiting for vodafone uk to get into gear and sort me an upgrade out or to buy the phone on it's own and go for a sim only contract.... if vodafone are going to be putting their stamp on it straight away then sim free and sim only contract may be the way to go.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yes the carrier version from vodafone when it comes out (unconfirmed as of now) will have a locked bootloader with custom carrier apps and apn settings, as well as minor branding. Sim free may be the only option am affraid. I know i will be buying it sim free from carphone warehouse, by the time vodafone releases it, it will be a long time, there bloatware will slow it down, same goes for o2 and three!
[Xperia Z General] cooltranier13px:
Do they have the HSPA+ model?
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Yes, the c6602
[Xperia Z General] Warrimonk:
Is there any way to add Bell to this poll? You have Rogers listed but they are not even confirmed to carry the phone, while Bell is confirmed to get the ZL.

I have a feeling that it should be out in Canada for around $600-650 no contract. It would not make sense to sell it for more than 700 considering how reasonable the prices in the UK are (and wee pay less tax here).If it was really expensive everyone could just order a Z from the UK store instead. :P
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
Sarcasm?
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Lol no he isn't being sarcastic
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Handtec don't have the C6602 model?
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yes that would be a wiser decision! And am afraid not, i don't think i can edit the poll after its been posted!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
No they do not.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
No not at all! It was laggy at times but now i can seriously see project butter in there.. WOW insane!
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Oh, my mistake. that sucks. Where can I buy the C6602 from?
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Not sure, sony have yet to release avalability on the C6602!
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
Good news then. That means they've probably done some improvements with JB. I was checking reviews for the Xperia T, and they were mixed, most been good, but the negatives were quite strong, it was on Amazon, hopefully this phone won't have those little flaws, because I really want to get this phone in the near future.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yeah i hope so too!
[Xperia Z General] thefunkmiester:
Have noticed a "price match" button on handtec's site. I have messaged them to see if they will price match three's £449 (£459 with airtime), am I wasting my time or might they go for it...? I would rather have a handset without all of three's "bloatware" and branding crap...
[Xperia Z General] herasymcuk:
i know Handtec has the c6603 model not the c6602 one.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I already asked them and there excuse was that as three sim lock their device and they wouldn't be willing to change the price, they say that it has to be an unlocked device price match, if am honest its a load of rubbish, they put that on their site to look good, if you look at their other products they are more expensive than sites like amazon, when i pointed that out to them, they said amazon do grey market imports, which they don't so for that reason they won't price match. But go ahead if ya feel like it :D!
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
HSPA (c6602) model here if anyone is buying in the U.S. on a GSM network like T-Mobile :): http://www.gsmnation.com/sony-mobile-xperia-z-c6602-unlocked-black.html
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
Why would they price match a different spec phone? if you had a Sim free phone to sell and saw eBay had a locked version for sale at £400. Wouldn't you sell it for more? Uhm yes you would, cause you could. Sim free and locked phones are totally different things.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Its not "different spec" Its the same phone, one unlocked and another locked, which only costs £10 to unlock... Also they refused to price match amazons galaxy s3 and gave a lame excuse so...
[Xperia Z General] m00moo:
It doesnt work like that. Sim free is sim free meaning it is 100% from manufacturer, untouched ie. Bootloader unlockable = definate yes. Carrier unlocked is still a carrier phone and contains different modifications etc and it being via carrier isn't 100% unlocked, a chance carrier unlockable no, even if you sim unlock it... also sometimes the boxes are different, or the device is branded and may contain different accessories. THAT is why sim free cost more. It is the one in demand and therefore the price difference. Same device but obvious differences in Sim free vs Carrier otherwise why does it even exist? so to ask a company to price match sim free vs carrier locked is stupid, its like asking O2 to price match Vodaphone because they have the same minutes,texts,data but it costs more.
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
$750 in Australia, Victoria, Melbourne at the Sony store in Nunawading.

Already have in store a live demo unit.
[Xperia Z General] cooltranier13px:
I would get this now but that is to much money currently. Will wait til its at least $500 or so.

Do they charge the card when you order or not?
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
I'm not sure. I might not even buy it yet till price goes down just like you. Just wanted to post for any1 anxious to get the American 3G model. I heard something about a c6606. What's that supposed to support?
[Xperia Z General] hndr_haryanto:
Xperia Z launches in Japan

And how price for japan?

http://www.mobilexperia.com/xperia-z-launches-in-japan.html
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
For what it is, it's not really expensive, I could understand why people want to wait though, I personally just can't afford it, and I've only had my phone a year!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
What he said!
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
I spoke to Handtec earlier this afternoon. They told me that they may recieve stock earlier than the 28th Feb, but cannot guarantee that. They also said it might be possible for them to dispatch orders before then, but Handtec did it make it clear that Sony themselves have the final say.
[Xperia Z General] millicent:
I think handtec modified their brochure, now the warranty reads 12 months instead of 24 months as earlier. Or I might have imagined it..
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Oh my god so they have! There's no way in hell i am placing my order with them now! They are trying to gain some money of people as ALL sony phones come with 24 months warranty. Looks like Asda direct it is, £500 for the xperia Z, charging dock, case, and wireless speaker? You must be mad not to pre order ;)!
[Xperia Z General] dibdin:
Nice find mate. That's a corking offer!!
[Xperia Z General] xl VipeR lx:
Irregardless of what handtec say. Sony have the say in warranty
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Hey, I have a question. What is HSPA 4G in comparison to 4G LTE? I know LTE is faster, but I'm asking because, according to Wikipedia, Tmobile has frequencies 1700 and 1900 as 3G/4G HSPA. The Z (c6602) supports those two bands...I know it wouldn't have LTE, but would it have HSPA 4G on Tmobile? Thanks in advance.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Sony tell you to go through were you bought your device if you want your device serviced!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
HSPA+ (its HSPA+ not HSPA) is basically a really good version of 3G, some like to call it 3.7G, its close to 4G, but not quite there! H+ can offer speeds of up to 42mbs, while on the other hand LTE can offer up to 100Mbs! Tmobile classify H+ as '4G' for marketing, no one would buy there packages or go on their network if they knew it was 3G. Also LTE 4G is the real deal, its fast, and you need an LTE enabled device that supports your carriers 4G frequency, but with H+ most modern phones support it, including my two year old S2!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Exactly!! Amazing deal!
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Oh, I see. Well, part of me wants to get the Z and just use it on 3G because I'm usually around wifi networks, and my current phone is only 2G speeds anyway, but the other half of me is thinking, "dang, he just crushed every fond dream of 3gness my soul had left in its deepest, darkest crevices..." -Chronicles of a Handset Customer
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Well your not quite right.... HSPA+ supports up to 21Mbs (see here) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolved_HSPA and DC-HSDPA supports up to 42Mbs (see here) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-Cell_HSDPA

I'm currently with 3 and their Ultrafast Internet is DC-HSDPA which only a certain few models support this atm, mainly 4G phones do, but I'm worried about the Z as so far 3 say it supports their Ultrafast Internet but every spec sheet I have seen only shows HSPA+ and LTE for it. I wonder if anyone else has seen if the Z supports DC-HSDPA?
[Xperia Z General] simba4:
Nice!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I know, i meant to simplify it for him, they are the same thing basically i just wanted to show the main differences between 4G LTE and H+! Also take a look at the screenshot attached.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Oh I see, fair enough... So there are 2 different models in the UK then? I wonder if 3 will sell both models if so, when they release LTE...
[Xperia Z General] cooltranier13px:
Yes!

I'm right there with you! Someone stole my Galaxy Nexus so I don't have a smartphone anymore. This is the device I want to get and it should support T-Mobile's refarmed network were I live so I should be fine but my data connection would be not a strong point. Its between this and the Nexus 4 for me.

Xperia Z-Everything that would want in a phone currently without awesome data connectivity

Nexus 4-Not quite everything that I want, but price is lower and gets the best speeds on T-Mobile.

Tough choice, not sure if I want to go back to E so much.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Lol right. I'm sick of E and T mobile just updated my prepaid plan to include 500mb 4G/month (I guess 3G on the Z) and 2G unlimited after that. But now they have that no contract unlimited 4G (I guess 3G on the z) plan.
[Xperia Z General] cooltranier13px:
Maybe one of the LTE bands will support it when T-Mobile launches it? But that's a stretch.

I can live with only 3G. iPhones on the same network are getting 3G now, I'm just unsure about coverage in my area.
[Xperia Z General] 3thman:
Where can I find the purple one ?? Help pllllllz
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
o2 UK are doing it exclusively!
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Are asda reliable? Just cancelled my order with handtec, but got a bit worried about asda after reading some reviews.
[Xperia Z General] Warren.D:
Just remember that 95% will only do reviews if they've had bad experiences.

Asda is reputable company. More so than handtec.
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Okay thank you. Trying to cancel the order with handtec right now.
[Xperia Z General] Dazzla:
The Asda deal is cracking. Phone, official dock, NFC speaker and case for £499.99. The only downside is it's only in black. I've pre-ordered, if they end up offering a white package as well I'll cancel and purchase that.

Edit: It appears that Asda are just bundling the NFC speaker. The dock and case are part of a Sony offer:

http://www.sony-offer.com/

That must be good for purchases anywhere.
[Xperia Z General] cklow01:
Three UK has said that it is Z is LTE ready on facebook and I think the UK has only the 4G variant.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Hmm that conflicts with their info on their website, they state the Z is compatible with their Ultrafast Internet (DC-HSDPA). From what I have seen the LTE model doesn't have DC-HSDPA... there must be 2 UK models...
[Xperia Z General] cklow01:
None of the Xperia Z has DC-HSPDA variant. So it is referring to the LTE version since LTE is part of the Ultrafast internet when it comes live later.

Look at the first comment in the below link:

blog.three.co.uk/2013/01/08/sony-xperia-z-coming-soon

She mentioned that is supports DC_HSPDA as well but I really doubt that...
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
That's correct, it does not only apply to Asda, i presume what Sony will do is ask for proof of purchase and then maybe the IMEI number of your xperia Z, then perhaps your details and get it posted to your address, either way i can't wait :D!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Yeah lol that was my question to her, I've since had a response back from a moderator saying that their Ultrafast Internet refers to both LTE and DC-HSPDA (same as what you said) ... So still no concrete information yet.... I've sent another message back.

I read on a 3 blog which stated it supported DC-HSPDA so conflicting info!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I can now confirm that the 3 model is the C6603 model which supports LTE and H+ And three's DC_HSPDA network. When 3 get EE's 4G spectrum in June then it will be 4G compatible. I can now confirm this by speaking to a three customer representative and a 3 insider!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Excellent thanks, so 3's model is the same as what all networks will be selling... When you say 3 customer representative this wasn't customer services was it? I'm happy now if that's the case!
[Xperia Z General] kopwyn:
Hello, everyone!

Can you, please help me with such way to buy this phone?

I'd like to buy 2 Z's via Norway.

I'll describe: buying smartphones in UK, sending it to Norway (and no need to pay VAT), after that send it to Finland.

Can anybody tell me, is it possible to send parcel from Norway to Finland without any customs fees?

Shall I take parcel in Oslo Post Office manually, and send it to Finland, or I can make it via internet?

I'll be very happy for your answers. Thanks to everybody.
[Xperia Z General] Fasty12:
From The US

Can i make calls with this phone on TMOBILE? Not wifi calling just regular calls. I dont need LTE, Data plan 3g or any of that. I will use wifi for my internet needs
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
No, more like a friend if you may ;)!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
If you get the C6602 model then yes!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Buy it from handtec, send it to norway, then from there get it sent to Finland? But why don't you just send it directly to Finland?
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
The perks of working in HQ then, build up your network for times like this :)
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Oh yes:highfive:! Bliss times ahead with knowing many people in the industry ;)!
[Xperia Z General] kopwyn:
Because of 0% of VAT in EU)
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Handtec changed its warranty to 24 monthes again! :D
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
Well f-ck, Russian prices are announced, $1000 or £645, insane.

At least the dock is included, though I'm going to order from Germany now.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
HDR Recording on the Z: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Za4AVhdicI <<This video is from China it seems, so is the Chinese model equivalent to the c6602? The video even says it's taken on the c6602.
[Xperia Z General] kopwyn:
Can you, please, show me any proofs, can't find any info
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
https://twitter.com/SonyXperiaRu/status/301933150999810048
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I don't quite get as good perks as you, but working in Carphone Warehouse does help, ie discount off phone etc. I can get the Z when it's out for £350 with staff discount :D
[Xperia Z General] Toss3:
Nopes. Anything above 22 euros and you'll be paying both customs and 24% VAT. Much better to just buy it straight from Handtec.
[Xperia Z General] AGGevorgyan:
It means that in Armenia price will be higher :/ I think $1100 - 1200 :rolleyes:

May be I'll buy from handtec, but customs clearance here is 30% from local price => $700 (handtec's price + DHL) + more than $300 = more than $1000. Sad situation. May be we can try to find someone, who will buy in europe or US and bring it with him to us.
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Hell yeah, 3's executive customer services have just authorised an exchange on my Note 2 for the Xperia Z :victory:

Long story short, 3's customer service had stated on many occasions that the Note 2 was 4G ready, but it's not as it's the N7100 model (I made sure I had this confirmed just incase), because of that they have offered an exchange of handset.....so it was a no brainier to get the Xperia Z! :)

Roll on the 28th :D
[Xperia Z General] hndr_haryanto:
Sony Australia has confirmed that the Xperia Z will be released in March.

http://www.mobilexperia.com/australia-will-be-the-arrival-of-the-xperia-z-in-march.html
[Xperia Z General] galuquetta:
ASDA Mobile, only ships to UK?
[Xperia Z General] robogo1982:
775 euros in T-mobile Croatia, beginning of March.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Omfg, surely not? Cmon that can't be possible, i mean thats around 40%, WOW
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Yuup!
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Omfg?!! for free? WOW so jelly :/!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
Yeah that's right, it does vary handset to handset....if I hadn't of got 3 to exchange my Note 2 then I would've sold it and got the XZ sim free with my discount.

Yeah for free, I was clever, when I brought the Note 2 the advisor said my model (N7100) supported 4G, which I knew it didn't; I got him to note pad my account just incase. Now I raised a complaint last week and they have just agreed to switch my phone for free, obviously I will have to hand the Note 2 back but to get the XZ is awesome :victory:
[Xperia Z General] indycar:
expansys upped the price to 654€ :(
[Xperia Z General] Al Gore:
What was it before?
[Xperia Z General] RCJ89:
Started at £530, then was £520, then £525 now £550.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Some people are just lucky in this world :|!
[Xperia Z General] maverick1103:
I like to think I create my own luck :p
[Xperia Z General] DarkKrypt:
Was just at the Sony store nunawading,

Tested it, amazing phone.

$750 with no dock.

Release march to mid march
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
The only thing holding me back is the pricetag. I think the Googorola (Google+Motorola) X-Phone will be a real game-changer so I'm gonna wait till Google I/O in May. Phone is said to feature some things never before seen on a smarphone and to have Google services integration like never before. Also, will probably be unbreakable and super long battery better than the Moto RAZR MAXX....I'm not discouraging from the Z or trolling, just saying I wanna be able to have options. Year just started
[Xperia Z General] Rashkae:
why is this a UK-only poll? Where's the "Other" option?

It's 788 SGD retail in Singapore.
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
That could just be the rumor mill, or marketing ploy. The only gamechanger we will see is Google glass.
[Xperia Z General] lordgoata:
I'm sure this is a dumb question, but hey if I don't ask, I won't know :) ... I've been on contract with Vodafone since forever, and have always upgraded my handsets through them. I've decided this time to buy the phone, and switch to Sim Only - either with Vodafone if they do me a good deal, or switching else where (3 or T-Mobile probably).

Sooo as I have no experience buying a phone outright, can I just confirm that I need Sim-Free, and that if I go with the ASDA Deal, or with someone like Amazon, that is what I will receive, and I will be ok to use it with Vodafone, 3 or T-Mobile, depending on who I end up with ?

Thanks in advance peeps!
[Xperia Z General] craftycarper1:
Correct, just buy the phone from any of the retailers doing a deal that suits you, and then put in any sim you choose from your preferred network.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
No ploy. A carrier in Australia spoke of it. Google said they've been working on the phone software for years. Oh and the same X department that's been working on Google glass and driverless cars is working on the phone according to the job listing that was posted.
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
So all previous Android phones will be obsolete. That will go down well. I'll take that information with a grain of salt.

Bearing in mind hardware improvements are now insignificant as you don't even need an S3 to complete almost all needs of a smartphone.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Google's strategy has always been to push forward it's OS and other products with features that continually adapt to the changing needs AND desires of its consumers while looking ahead to ones to come as well. This new X-phone, which is for sure confirmed from the job listing for it, will be the first opportunity for Google to have full control of all hardware AND software sides of a mobile device. It will surely be innovative. Other Android devices won't be obsolete! Don't think of it like that. This will just be Google's personal flavor on a phone so it'll definitely seem more "Googlistic" than other phones by default.

Anyway, to not get too off-topic, I'm hoping the Z will be more affordable in the coming months for U.S. consumers.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Well that's only if there is a market for Sony Phones in the US!
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
Don't be saying that!! AT&T usually carries Xperia devices!
[Xperia Z General] stu15:
I'm scared. Hold me.
[Xperia Z General] Justinchi:
You'll get thru *pats him on the back* XD
[Xperia Z General] Audioboxer:
Pre-ordered on the £26 pm Tmobile deal.

Changing from my Nexus 4. Two main reasons are poor screen manufacturing by LG (backlight bleeding mainly), and microsd will be useful now that SDcards are getting as big as they are.

As long as Sony are decent with the dev community I do not mind giving up my developer phone (Nexus 4) for a better built device. I simply do not like LG.
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
I would suggest Handtech. I have shipped countless phones over to Canada, Australia and even New Zealand with no problem at all. What's more, is since your not a citizen of the United Kingdom, you don't pay the value added tax. Meaning you can get the device for $684, as oppose to $837.

http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-xperia-z.html

Hope this helps!
[Xperia Z General] pongnamu:
Oh! Thanks :) I will trust you and buy it on the site ;) It looks good! :D

So, do I have to pay £433.33 instead of £520.00?

Thanks for your reply! :)
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
That is correct! so you save about £100 :( lucky for you ehh! I live in UK so i don't get the same special treatment xD!
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
Do they have Xperia ZL also? And what would happen if you let someone outside UK purchase it for you and then send it back to you?
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
They don't am affraid. The xperia ZL is exclusive to specific country's. Lmfao that's a clever one, how ever, there's a high chanse that customs could spot this and add tax, in addition everyone in europe is taxed, therefore they would have to be in like america or japan for instance, which by the time you ship it back to yourself the price would be pretty much the same
[Xperia Z General] Riyal:
My country was listed on one of those in southeast asia to recieve the Xperia Z and ZL but I would like the HSPA pentaband version so I'm actually targeting the one from europe.

With regards to the other discussion how would they be able to spot a Z from europe and Z from other countries? I think the packaging would be the same.. Anyways $100 is so expensive for tax only (>.<)
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
The sticker on the box with the IMEI, barcodes and SI also lists the model number (C6603 for the international LTE Xperia Z).
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
I just placed an order with handtec it was 730 dollars arty the end. I choose dhl express
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
Brilliant! You got yourself a bargain
[Xperia Z General] xiFIL:
The LTE version of the Z is a C6603 model, while the HSPA+ version your wondering about is called C6602, so just look around to see if they will have that one.
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
ET964 says the model I offered from handtec
[Xperia Z General] Ambroos:
That is their internal ID, just checked their site and they have no information on what model they're selling. You'll have to mail them and ask if it's the C6603 or C6602.
[Xperia Z General] ajftl:
Hmm. I though their internal Id was the other number.