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[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
I'm in the same boat as well. Hopefully we'll know something soon, as T-Mo service SUCKS where I live. I'm lucky to get 2G per their coverage map.
[Nexus 4 General] idyllicink:
I got a different story from ST rep

On Jan. 29th, I tried to get the AT&T SIM from StraightTalk as well. After putting in my (and other major city zips) the site returned TMobile sims every time; nothing from AT&T. I then called StraightTalk and was told that they would no longer (NEVER) be offering the AT&T sims through their website. The ST rep did say that I may be able to find the AT&T sim for ST on the Walmart website until the stock was depleted. When I asked the ST rep why they wouldn't be selling them anymore he said ST lost an agreement with AT&T to sell the sims. Considering this, I was concerned about activation (in the event that I was able to get a sim from Walmart). He said that ST will continue to honor and activate AT&T sims.

On the 29th, after speaking with the ST rep, I quickly ordered the StraightTalk AT&T compatible sim from Walmart. They were sold out of the micro sim but I figure I can cut it to fit the N4. Funny thing is, I visited Walmart.com earlier this morning and it shows that the micro sims for AT&T are "In Stock"...hmm
[Nexus 4 General] vipfreak:
Oh great... I guess this is the beginning of the end... I guess I should read up on all the fail overpriced @#$%&y networks now... ?
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
just get a net 10 att Sim. its the exact same thing as straight talk
[Nexus 4 General] TrIn@dOr:
Why not just getting T-Mobile $30?
[Nexus 4 General] buffalowolff:
The only $30 plan I see from t-mobile includes 30 Meg of data.... not going to cut it for me. Anything else they offer is more expensive for less than going to straight talk

http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
[Nexus 4 General] TrIn@dOr:
No man, look at the picture...
[Nexus 4 General] buffalowolff:
Derp. Thanks :)
[Nexus 4 General] androidphan88:
ugh this sucks, att is the only gsm carrier that works in my area.

Any idea how long they will allow people to keep there ATT service through straight talk.

I really want to switch to ST ATT with a N4 but this is extremely discouraging
[Nexus 4 General] threeclaws:
100min doesn't cut it for everybody.
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
I hope we can get some more information from ST about this. FB people just said no longer through website, did answer that yes sim's don't expire and would be activating any sims purchased.

I hurried and purchased 2 att sims from walmart.com, my account has been charged but no shipping yet. Crossing my fingers.
[Nexus 4 General] buffalowolff:
I can confirm that my sim was already shipped from walmart and should be delivered Saturday. I'll post back when I get it.
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
I'll post if mine ship.

Now to either pay the $200 term fee or wait.

(not to get too much into it but I swear I didn't sign up for contract and they didn't even listen to me, i know everyone seems to love Tmo CS, but I've had more problems with them then I did with verizon/att when I had them. And with crappy coverage where I live (put up with because of wificalling, but now that I'm taveling more can't do it) it's like argh can't get out soon enough).
[Nexus 4 General] nigelhealy:
Walmart difficult to order Straighttalk AT&T MicroSIM from

I have tried and failed 6 times to order from Walmart, it accepts the order and then just sends a "Error processing your recent Walmart.com order" email. I've tried 2 different creditcards over a period of 2 days, nothing works.

I was ordering the best-value bundle with a $45 30day with the AT&T Micro SIM.

Just now tried with just the SIM-only.... waiting....

EDIT:

1 Straight Talk AT&T Compatible Micro SIM Card

Shipped

Your order has been shipped via Fedex and should arrive between Wednesday, 02/06/2013 and Thursday, 02/07/2013.

My N4 is delivered tomorrow, don't have a SIM for it!:(
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Note those of you entering the game late. Consider that although you might be able to get an att sim. The att offering is not and most probably will begin to dwindle in the amount of "unlimited" data you'll be able to use at full speed. People have already claimed being throttled between 30mb-1gb by att on st.

Also there are post stating net10 has also discontinued offering att sim.

I personally switched from st att after being throttled twice, both under 2gb moderate use. Was with then for 6months, previously used 4gb without issues until recently.

Perhaps this is why they're parting ways..
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
Unfortunately T-Mobile is not an option for a lot of people as there coverage is abysmal not to mention the inability to get a decent signal inside a building. I had a 2 year contract with them in 2003 that I couldn't get out of fast enough but decided to try the pay as you go 4G this past December. And guess what? It still sucked even after 10 years of supposed upgrades. And from experience their coverage in Michigan is almost non-existent. I would rather pay full price at AT&T then suffer through T-Mobile again.
[Nexus 4 General] HillsRider:
Try living in BFE South Dakota. You have 2 choices, Verizon or AT&T. Guess which one I have to use.
[Nexus 4 General] ibegary:
From their Twitter
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
There's red pocket, h20 and a few other att mvno. At least they are clearer as to what their limits are.

Thankfully T-Mobile's upgrades and 1900 refarming in my metro area has improved. I had simple mobile about 8-9months ago and it was bad, besides the 120k throttle on data if I found a signal. If I turned in my bed I'd have none... Now I get 3- full bars.
[Nexus 4 General] nigelhealy:
AT&T data throttling?

I just now managed to order a ST AT&T microSIM having failed to get via ST direct.

So I do intend to use the 2GB/month type data, not for media streaming but emailing, FB, etc. If its truly throttled data then its going to be pointless to me, so what % of users are hitting ST AT&T throttling? Small % or larger %?
[Nexus 4 General] dougeeebear:
More speculation on the subject can be found here
[Nexus 4 General] clockcycle:
Problem is that it's not being controlled by straight talk, but by att directly. It does this to all their mvno. But lately have been clamping down harder than a few months ago.

Think this, att is losing customers left and right since they lost exclusivity to the iphone. Others switch to cheaper plans on other providers and some switch to various prepaid. Att clients paying a premium complain about poor network performance largely due to over saturation. So they bump the mvnos once in a while.. Plus why stay on att if prepaid is cheaper and just as good??.. Right, att can't have that.
[Nexus 4 General] kzoodroid:
I only use about 100 MB a month of mobile data as I'm on wifi 99% of the time so ST AT&T is perfect for me. I just can't live without being able to text or make phone calls which is what drives me crazy about TMo's service here. They even use my city in their ad campaign that's why I thought maybe they had improved but no such luck. Even if they did go to 1900 LTE here it wouldn't matter as I can't get a signal at work 30 miles outside the city in BFE or any where along my commute for that matter.
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
Well my ATT ST sims shipped. Now if tmo will just let me out of my contract, taht'd be great.
[Nexus 4 General] TrIn@dOr:
SOLUTION = Google Voice + Groove (for now free)
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
Depends on TMO coverage in your area. IT SUX near me. Why I'm dropping them ASAP. Wifi calling let me get by for awhile, but it's just become a PITA esp now that I travel more and no wifi. Sure if you live in Metro area it's probably fine, but Tmo sux in many area's and not having 850 to pen buildings makes it even worse.

So yes the $30 with 100 min unlimited text/data (although don't they throttle you after 2gb? which would make calling not fessible at that point?) is good for many people but not good for many also.
[Nexus 4 General] ibegary:
I feel your pain. I live in Rural Kentucky and Tmobile/Sprint or any 1900Mhz carrier is laughable. The only option's are AT&T, Verizon or Bluegrass Cellular and they're all expensive. Plus BGC doesn't have coverage in Louisville.

If they do disconnect AT&T from ST then i'm screwed.
[Nexus 4 General] ms0chez:
Anyone else had problems purchasing AT&T micro sim on Walmart?? I keep getting errors every time I try to check out.
[Nexus 4 General] seeansea:
If this is true this stinks. I was planning on switching to this with my Nexus 4 once my contract runs out in a couple months...
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
Do you ahve a debit card, my debit card went right through no problems.

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You have other options that are a tad more expensive but not too much:

for a list:

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_mobile_virtual_network_operators#section_1

Just look for the ones with AT&T, most seem to run $60/month for 2gb, which for 2 phones is around $120, even with my 20% discount with AT&T for unlimited talk/text 4gb shared (so 2gb each) is $136.00 (normally $150). And reason it's not more, you would think 20% off 150 would be more then 14, they only give me the 20% off the $70 for the plan, not the $40 per phone they want on top of the $70.

I know people are like i need limited, but let's be honest becuase of ATT policy, even tho ST advertises Unlimited, ATT cuts/throttles people when they hit so much MB/day or 1-5gb/month (depends on who you ask what they do).

Most also over a 500mb for $50/month. If you're mostly on wifi this would prolly work.

Unfortunately it seems only Tmo/sprint is truly unlimited (well tmo throttled after some #GB, but not cut off) but their services suck anywhere outside metro area's in my experience. I even work in a metro from time to time, and as soon as i'm like inside on the 5th floor, bam 1 bar if i'm lucky, att dude next to me has 3. So there are options if you want ATT and can deal without the fake "unlimited" data from ST.

Was relooking at some, some offer $40/month for the 500mb, and others offer 55/month for 1gb.

For me if ST sux or I have problems, I'd prolly try the $40 see how it goes. I just looked at my TMO history tho, and I only went over 500mb twice in a year of bills on 1 of my phones. (Mine my wife always has wifi). So I may get that $40 if ST really F's it up.
[Nexus 4 General] rubiconjp:
Most AT&T MVNO's offer 1GB now for around $55. Only H2O still offer 2GB at $60 per 30 days.
[Nexus 4 General] ms0chez:
Yeah using my debit card. When did you place your order?
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
I'd be willing to sell my ST New ATT sims, since Tmo just got back to me I can't get out of my contract (even tho they lied to me, going to try BBB but I digress).
[Nexus 4 General] rubiconjp:
I was able to complete my purchase just now on Walmart for a regular mini SIM using PayPal. You can cut mini SIM into the micro format.
[Nexus 4 General] dardack:
2 days ago, not even like 1.5 days if that.
[Nexus 4 General] androidphan88:
i bought 2 from walmart yesterday with paypal no issues at all.

well at least they took my money havent got shipping conformation yet
[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
Just ordered two AT&T compatible SIM cards from Walmart.com for StraightTalk (no service, just the SIMs, as my contract with Verizon isn't up until March). I'll report back if anything weird happens with shipment.
[Nexus 4 General] t3ch7:
Some of the less well-known ones offer some decent deals. That's a nice thing about all these mvnos - so many options and price points even though a lot of them give you roughly the same.

I dunno what the customer service is like, but Consumer Cellular has some decent plans. You can get 1GB of data, 150 min talk and 10K text for $45.

I'm currently testing out PureTalkUSA which is also an AT&T MVNO. $43.95 gets you unlimited talk/text (sms) and 600megs of data/600 mms (if you go over either data or mss, they charge you $10 for another 100megs/100mms). Not bad for someone who isn't a heavy data user. But, the nice thing is that you can do anything you want with that 600 megs unlike other MVNOs which might explicitly state you shouldn't be streaming music or video or whatever.

I'm gonna try out Net10 later this month since I hear they are a little more lenient with data usage. Might as well try it out!
[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
Update: my two AT&T Straight Talk Micro SIMs just shipped, so we'll see.
[Nexus 4 General] grubbster:
This is not good news. Man, I hope ST keeps supporting the ATT sims. T-Mo sucks in my area.
[Nexus 4 General] HyperM3:
I just recently switched back from t-mo sim to att sim on ST. Since then, I have been having weird data issues(grey bars/connection loss) and Im not getting all my SMS(not MMS). So I dont know whats going on. I have to be honest though, I have had so many issues with ST since I switched to them last May that its too frustrating. Its almost worth paying double for getting on ATT service that I never had problems with for 6 years prior to ST.

Just one idiots opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
Looks like they might just be sold out after all:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...-sold-out-of-att-sim-cards-online-dont-panic/
[Nexus 4 General] el6006:
Walmart canceled both my at&t sim orders. Damn.
[Nexus 4 General] buffalowolff:
Try going to target in person. A friend picked me up a net 10 3 pack of Sims for $10. Identical to straight talk. It came with att full and micro sims and a T-Mobile full sim. I cut down the T-Mobile sim and activated service to see if it will work for me.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Wow, you guys are missing the forest for the trees. Straight talk removed the AT&T sims the day after congress passed a law that it's illegal to unlock phones. Coincidence ? Hardly. This gives AT&T extended leverage to force phones with the AT&T logo on it to be used exclusivly on AT&T.

http://www.komonews.com/news/consumer/Its-now-illegal-to-unlock-your-cell-phone-189653851.html
[Nexus 4 General] boomn:
AT&T phones did not need to be unlocked to work with a Straight Talk AT&T SIM card so that shouldn't have any effect. My last two phones on ST have both been SIM-locked AT&T phones

That law will have a bigger effect on T-Mobile who has been luring AT&T customers over to their prepaid plans and having them bring their phones with them, which requires unlocking
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
That's correct. Any way you look at it though, AT&T wants their phones used on AT&T. The new law helps them to do that.

A phone that is locked to AT&T, yet unlocked for use on ST, well you get the piont. Let the laywers figure it out.............

Bottom line, more restrictions for the consumer.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
This has nothing to do with that law. No one forced AT&T to make a deal with Straight Talk to use their network as a MNVO. If they didn't want unlocked phones on their network they would of never of made a deal with Straight Talk to begin with. The deal with unlocking phones applies to users on contracts which they certainly are concerned with. MNVOs don't do contracts so that is really of no concern to AT&T.
[Nexus 4 General] boomn:
A locked phone checks the MCC and MNC numbers on the SIM card to see if that SIM card is allowed or not. AT&T sells network access to a number of third-party prepaid carriers (Straight Talk, Net10, H2O, Red Pocket, etc) and these AT&T compatible SIM cards have the same MCC and MNC as official AT&T SIM cards, so a 100% locked AT&T phone will always recognize one of these prepaid SIM cards as valid.

This law doesn't help AT&T do anything to Straight Talk and their ability to accept AT&T customers. If AT&T wanted to stop Straight Talk from attracting those customers they just stop selling more network access to them, which is the step that they've possibly taken here.
[Nexus 4 General] bozzykid:
I don't buy it one bit. Straight Talk and Net10 run out of sim cards from AT&T at the exact same time is no coincidence. Maybe there is some contractual issues with AT&T but something is going on. Otherwise ST could of just said they were sold out of AT&T compatible SIMs, not just removing the references to it during signup.
[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
Indeed, it would be nice if Android Police had more details on their "source" and what exactly was said. My two SIMs are on their way from walmart.com, so no worries for me. At least for now...
[Nexus 4 General] Selmak:
I really hope that AT&T isn't dropping Straight Talk. That will really limit options for a lot of people that can't get decent T-Mo service in their area. Still if you are stuck with using the T-Mo sim consider this. The lack of building penetration is mostly a data issue, not voice. Unless you've got no signal indoors, or virtually no signal voice calls tend to work just fine. I was a T-Mobile subscriber for years, and when I switched to Straight Talk last August I got the T-Mo compatible sim as I was still using the same phone at that time. Even after getting my Nexus 4 I still kept the ST T-Mo sim. Why you might ask? Wifi is why. Everywhere I go there is wifi these days. My favorite diner...yeah they've got wifi. My favorite Italian restaurant....yep. Work...of course. So basically if you live in an area that has decent outdoor reception you will most likely fare just fine with the ST T-Mo sim.
[Nexus 4 General] lowrider262:
I really wish at&t would stop being stingy & step up their prepaid game. Maybe produce their own mvno like other companies are doing with some competitive prices. I'd gladly pay $60 a month for something with a decent amount of minutes and at least 2gb of 3g data then throttled.
[Nexus 4 General] big gulps huh?:
I am a big Tmobile fan but I would switch to ATT if they were able to pull that off...which they likely won't.
[Nexus 4 General] Cabal_:
That's because they're the same company (Tracfone) and both ship white SIMs with Tracfone logos on them, not "Straight Talk" or "Net10" (I have both in my household). Obviously they would be sold out at the same time.
[Nexus 4 General] TravisBean:
Guess I was mistaken. The ST rep I spoke to today said they were simply out of stock, and would be getting more in the future.
[Nexus 4 General] And_you_are:
Placed an order from walmart's website yesterday for the ATT ST micro sim. FWIW, its still available on their website.

Ive received an order confirmation, but not a tracking number yet. We'll see what happens. Ive been ready to ditch verizon and enter the smart phone world.
[Nexus 4 General] unsivil_audio:
Ordered a micro sim as well from Walmart. Hoping to order an n4 soon but just in case I end up with something at&t I figured I'd pick one up.
[Nexus 4 General] buffalowolff:
My at&t micro sim from Walmart was delivered today for those wondering.
[Nexus 4 General] droptothetop:
Same here for the ATT ST Micro SIM. Placed yesterday, order confirmed. No shipping confirmation yet.
[Nexus 4 General] unsivil_audio:
Just received shipping information from Walmart for my micro sim. :)
[Nexus 4 General] Veridor:
My two arrived today as well. Confirmed in the kit instructions they have you set the AT&T APNs.
[Nexus 4 General] droptothetop:
It looks like FedEx has my SIM and it'll be here soon! Hopefully activation/transfer goes smoothly!
[Nexus 4 General] And_you_are:
Received shipping notice and confirmation number. Should be able to activate and fire up the Nexus 4 to its full glory by the weekend.!
[Nexus 4 General] droptothetop:
SIM received. Number ported to Straight Talk/ATT. Rocking!
[Nexus 4 General] theroblog.com:
Well business if looking up for me when they run out of SIMs. I think we are the only T-Mobile MVNO now with roaming on AT&T included. Yes, you get 2G data, but it's looking like a good option especially if you're on TMob most of the time but need some AT&T love somtimes.

Rant: My father in law has that Microcell for AT&T but ONLY AT&T numbers are allowed to associate. And it's using his electricity and bandwidth. Thanks AT&T. Another reason I'm on a T-Mob MVNO.
[Nexus 4 General] GriffenD:
Straight talk AT&T numbers work on it too. I use it all the time and it works perfectly. You just need to enter the number on the account management website.
[Nexus 4 General] nigelhealy:
This is newbie first time with lots of firsts including android straight talk. I ordered my at&t Sim from Walmart it took an age to deliver. Registered. Online. Simply works.

To me coverage and reliability matters most and around here at&t is better.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
I was also worried when I saw this,

Until I saw this

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Post-Paid-Micro-SIM-AT-T-Bring-Your-Own-Phone-Card/21550826
[Nexus 4 General] nigelhealy:
FYI the bundle works out a bit extra value.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-AT-T-Compatible-Micro-SIM-w-45-AirTime-Card-5-Savings/21923981?findingMethod=rr

is a $5 less if you're bundling with your first month.

I've been using mine for last days and, whilst early, so far no problems, simply works. Blooming fast even in the California mountains.
[Nexus 4 General] 1slow4G:
Just placed an order of 2 bundles straight from walmart site. Hopefully get them by friday.

Sent from my Galaxy S3 using neighbors wifi :P
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
The bundle i bought gor a weird bank error. I see they did a pre-auth and credited the money back... I had plenty to cover it.

Sent from my epic touch, waiting for my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] pjc123:
No more AT&T sims

Has anyone bought an AT&T compatible sim card from Walmart and activated it since yesterday? The AT&T sims are no longer available directly from Straight Talk and when I asked them about it I got a very non-descriptive answer today:

"Straight Talk Wireless is not selling SIM cards that are compatible with

AT&T devices at this time. We will bring them back as soon as we can.

For updates on this issue, please visit our website at

www.Straighttalk.com."

So, either AT&T has discontinued their contract with Straight Talk or more likely I interpret this as stating that they just ran out of cards and don't want to lose business because people will not wait for the supply to be restocked. I specifically asked them this, but they are tight lipped.

I just ordered the Nexus 4 phone and have not decided on a service, but am I correct in understanding that AT&T has better plain phone service nationally, which is more important to me? So if the walmart cards will work (and not for just a month if AT&T ends their straight talk contract), I want to get one before the supplies run out.
[Nexus 4 General] Ejvyas:
What is the validity of the SIM card? Can I just buy it and activate later when my ATT contract is done?
[Nexus 4 General] dougeeebear:
SaraSt (a Straight Talk rep on Howard Forums) stated the sim cards don't expire.

The airtime service cards expire one year from the date of purchase.
[Nexus 4 General] droptothetop:
I would assume that since you bought it, you could activate it at any time. I hope it works out for you!
[Nexus 4 General] pnbarber:
Tried to order a bundle today

I tried twice today to order a bundle and both times it failed. The orders seemed to go through but minutes later I got a email stating "Error processing your recent Walmart.com" I used two different payment methods but neither worked.
[Nexus 4 General] nigelhealy:
ditto

Exact same thing happened to me like Jan 30th, I tried I think total of 5 or 6 times, using 2 different Credicards. I emailed them and they said my creditcard was rejected. I then tried (and worked 1st time) ordering just the SIM.

So either some weird bad typo on my part or a bug in Walmart's system that day.

Anyhow I did order just the AT&T MicroSIM, it took days to deliver activated zero problems and using it like a week now zero problems.

I would have liked the $5 discount from the bundle :) but fate wasn't having it :(

Loving my Nexus 4, I not been portable and online for like 6 years since I had a Treo 650.
[Nexus 4 General] jlear3:
Tried to order again and got denied again.. Ill just have to order the sim

Sent from my virgin flashed epic touch, waiting for my Nexus 4

Always feel free to pm for help!